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What town should we move to in Southern Me.?
Hey everyone!
I'm a regular poster in the Pond and the Aquarium forums...but i really the help of Mainers.
We really love Maine and want to move there. My daughter is a senior in HS here on Long Island, NY, so we figured next summer is our time to go. We've visited many times but cannot find the perfect town (if it exists). We'd love someplace with a downtown feel (like Stars Hollow in the Gilmore Girls--anyone?...anyone?) Needs to be near-ish a College. Needs to have good schools (5 kids--ages 17 to 2)I'd love to have an acre or more to grow my beautiful gardens in. We love snow--old houses--mountains--wood stoves--good people.
I just can't commute to NYC anymore. In fact, ever since 9/11 I get freaked out going in on the train and subway. I witnessed that day first hand and will always be affected by it. So, we want to move to the perfect little town...and live our life the way it should be.
thanks for your input everyone!!!
My town is nice--Saco--on the coast, 20 min to Portland, 1 1/2 hr to Boston. Amtrak leaves downtown station several x day for Boston. Good schools, private high school which the town has been contracting with to educate its students since the 1800s, a "Main St., Maine" community (meaning we are doing a lot to keep our downtown vital). Pop. approx. 18,000. No mountains but 1 hour drive puts you either in the White Mts. of NH or ski country in ME. Still a lot of land being developed outside of town with a very rural feel. Even properties close to town can have a good-sized yard, mine is an acre and I can walk to town/schools, etc. Real estate has skyrocketed due to Boston market, but if you've been living in the vicinity of NYC, buying here will probably feel like a steal. Email me if you want to know more!
Here is vote #2 for Saco. I have only owned a home here since Feb. '03 and am only at my home on weekends for I still work in Cambridge MA and commute the 100 miles on the Amtrak Downeaster every Friday afternoon and return to Boston on Monday morning. I wil retire to Saco full time early in 2008. I have a great veggie garden and flower gardens and am a little over one mile from the Ferry Beach State Park & Camp Ellis Beach. Snow amounts and temperatures are fairly similar to Boston. Velichen talks of the private high school. It is Thornton Academy and is a classy private school that all Saco kids can go to automatically since the town does not have it's own high school. Some great stores and garden centers, namely, Moody's Nursery and also Green Mountain Transplants are nearby. Portland Jetport is only 20 minutes away and I have often managed to obtain plane tickets to DC and other places as affordable as in Boston. Nice little museum, excellent library and many great local stores and places to eat. I have lived in Cambridge, the Bay Area, Chicagoland and know this community will meet all my needs and hopefully my recently married son and his bride will find a way to move here...they currently live in Brooklyn and work in NYC and would much rather raised their planned family here as well as enjoy the gardening, clean air and friendly people they have found on their monthly visit to my homestead!
You have to go on visits and say to yourself, can I live here? If you find a location that makes you think, yes I can, then start checking out the area around it.
My DH found himself coming to Portland often and started renting cars and driving around, and realized he rather liked the area. He found he preferred waht he saw of Scarborough and the Kennebunks. I came up one weekend and knew within a matter of a few hours that I could not live in Scarborough. Sure, the houses were nice, Portland and shopping were very handy, but I could not live there.
We drove over to Kennebunkport and Kennebunk, I liked them fine. Ogunquit was quite pretty, but the real estate agent we got in Kennebunk steered us away from there, and a good thing too, not really a place for kids.
We live in Lower Village in Kennebunk, a stroll from Dock Square. I used to take my youngest for walks down there, he loved it when he was little. We'd look at the shops, the boats, go for ice cream, visit the library. We could even walk to the beach as long as we had a little red wagon for him to ride on once he outgrew the stroller.
The schools are fine, no gripes from anyone as far as I know. One thing I did like very much was that they had a very good summer day camp for kids in grade school, run by the town, which also has many recreational programs throughout the year. On the other hand, teenagers complain there isn't much to do. My daughter was 15 when we moved here and she said most kids complained of boredom, but then, that depends on what your kids interests are.
Except for being further inland than southern Maine, Farmington would match what you want.
That shows some stats about it. Population is around 7500
List of links in the Farmington area.
The University of Maine at Farmington is right smack in the middle of the town and offers lots of things for the general public, including concerts, lectures and you can pay to use their Fitness Center.
The downtown is great with cute gift shops, a nice bookstore, a used bookstore, coffee shops, barbershops, thriftshop,health food store, some clothing stores. (It really could use more variety of clothing stores though.)
Farmington has a nice multi-screen movie theatre. I don't have children but I work with children and the only people I have heard complain about the schools have been some parents with kids with special needs. They sometimes don't feel the school has met their needs.
Farmington is closer to the mountains that you want than you would find in southern Maine. If you ski, it's about an hour away from three large ski areas: Sugarloaf, Saddleback, and Sunday River. There are lots of great places to go hiking around here too and lakes nearby include Clearwater, Wilson, and Porter though they are not really large lakes. You are an hour away from Rangeley Lakes area which does have BIG lakes and beautiful scenery and nice little shops.
Farmington doesn't really have a super big garden shop and one place closed last year. But I have heard a new place is opening in Wilton and we do have Agway and a very nice place that gets bigger every year called Robin's Flower Pot. She is doing a great job and has quality plants well tended. 45 minutes away in Manchester is a very large garden center called Longfellow's.
Good luck deciding. I know Farmington is NOT southern Maine, but I couldn't resist telling you about Farmington. By the way, I don't even live there! I have an office there and live 15 miles north in Strong.
Joanie D.
"Needs to be near-ish a College."
The University of Maine System has branches in several locations in Maine. There are, of course, many other colleges. You can find many links to Maine information here. Maine has a lot of inland water if you are interested in lakefront property. And if you want an ocean view near a beach, you should be able to find that as well.
We've only been in Maine for three years, so I am no expert on the area. Although I do a fair amount of shopping on the Internet, I like to be fairly near good shopping areas. Good medical facilities are important, too. Of course, the Portland area has good shopping and medical services. The Lewiston-Auburn, Augusta-Waterville, and Bangor-Brewer areas are also good inland centers near a four lane highway.
Good luck in your search for a Maine home. Maine has a lot to offer.
Everyone, thanks so much for your input. Please keep them coming. My wife and I anxiously await new posts!
Ps. Ordered from LL Bean today abd struck up a conversation with the sales clerk. He was saying that towns near Sebago Lake region are really pretty. We've been to Sebago Lake but never really in the surrounding towns. One of the schools we're going to look at is right on the lake. St. Josephs. So, we're coming up Veterans Day weekend.
Keep 'em coming..and thanks!!!
What about prices, guys? Inland is cheaper right? We would just like to hear...nothing. Here in NY, there's always this background noise. Cars...and honking...police/fire/trains. When we visit Maine, we get out of the car and the door slams... whoomp. Then what...? The sound of a dog barking way off in the distance...maybe some wind. Really, you guys probably don't realize how silent and peaceful it is. Just breathing the air up on Mt. Battie felt weird in my lungs. It almost tasted good.
Where else is small town America in Maine, everyone?
Thanks :-)
Yes, inland is cheaper. A place on the coast that costs $300,000 may be $150,000 in Western Maine mountain area. You can live in Farmington and still be in Portland in two hours. I live on a dead-end road in Strong and the loudest things I hear are the owls!
Joanie D.
Gee, and we were driving through central New York state and marvelling how pretty it was, how peaceful and quiet with all those beautiful Victorian houses scattered about.
NO JOB?? I certainly hope you would have some prospects lined up at least. There are many native Mainers with excellent job qualifications who've fled south simply because the best jobs they can get here are in retail and pay very little. This is just something to think about in case you weren't aware of it.
You might want to do some Internet searching for where job opportunities actually exist. Check out various places like Spotlight on Jobs: Maine's job market, The Myth of the Perfect Job, JobsinME.com, and AnyWho Maine job links. Those are just a few of the many places you can find on a search engine like Googol.
The Official website of the State of Maine has links to a lot of Maine information, including information on job opportunities.
I listed these links because I think it may be harder to find a good job in Maine than to find a nice quiet place to live. But I agree with you about the quiet. We live in a heavily wooded rural area of a small town near Augusta, and it is so delicious not to hear traffic sounds, and to hear the sounds of nature. And without light pollution our sky is so full of stars it's amazing. And on those rare occasions when we have the Northern Lights, they can be spectacular.
Thanks for those links MM. It's hard to put all of this together. Next week we're coming up to look at 2 colleges-- Then we'll apply after the 1st.--put the house up for sale in April---start looking for a job that will be willing to wait until the house is sold--find a buyer for the house in NY that will be willing to hold off on closing 'til after school ends for the rest of the kids--find something in ME.--and move before school starts. Is it gonna all work out? Yeah, sure it will.. :-\
I have to second Farmington in spite of the fact that it's west rather than south. UMF is ranked at the top of public liberal arts colleges in the east and the recreational and cultural opportunities are amazing for a small town. Check us out---we'd love to welcome you!
Here is a link that might be useful: University of Maine at Farmington
I'm coming up on Friday! We always get so psyched to come over that green bridge. I really can't wait! Visiting St. Joseph's College in Sebago and USM in Portland.
Here in NY, we have a pond...are there any Maine ponders? Or, is it too cold for too long?
Well, skating is cool too. I was just wondering if folks in Maine did the water-garden thing.
Anyway, we had a wonderful time in your beautiful state. We visited Standish, Windham, and stayed in Biddeford. We're leaning toward Standish-Windham because of the proximity to Portland and or course, how beautiful it is. Here's a pic of my son on the campus of St. Josephs. There's a path right to Sebago Lake.
I couldn't believe there were snow-capped mountains right there! I can't wait 'til the summer and we make our move!
I have to put my two cents in on this one. First both my son and daughter-in-law went to Saint Joseph's. Both were very happy with the education. My son came home his first semester in 1992, and he told us he was spending the rest of his life in Maine. He has owned a condo in South Portland and then moved to a home in Westbrook. Westbrook is a wonderful location. If I was at a point of relocating I would look at the Westbrook area. You would be very close to Portland for medical, shopping, and cultural. At some point we will be moving to Maine & more than likely it will be in the Westbrook area.
Westbrook sounds wonderful. Can you get a decent size lot there? We'd like to get maybe 2 or 3 acres.
Are you having snow in maine today? We had about 4" last night here in New York. I think this cold weather and early snow bodes well for a White Christmas!
I know my son mentioned that several properties are for sale in Westbrook. His property orignally was 3 acres and he split it so he could build a new house. His neighbor has 15 acres on one side of him and I believe the other neighbor has 20 acres on the other side. I mentioned to my husband that you were looking to go to Maine and he had to agree with you Windham is the place to live. It will be interesting to see where we end up when we get to that point and what size lot. We have 17 acres now, and use it all. Good luck with your move.
Hi...Check out Berwick. It's an hour from Portland, and the same from Boston. It's 20-30 minutes from the shore. My husband and I live in berwick and commute to Mass for the higher pay. Properties are still reasonably low priced. 3 years ago we got 22 acres on the river with a 3year old home for $199,000. Prices have risen, but there's ALOT of for sale signs right now.
I have 2 kids in the primary school and LOVE IT!!!
Good Luck!
Be ready for a bit of culture shock, though I have to admit it isn't as bad as it was.
I escaped LI in the late 70's, been in the mountains of NH since. My parents retired to Maine as soon as they were able. Consider further north a bit, the Blue Hill Maine area is lovely, still very rural but not a bad drive to things your used to. The scenery is stunning!
I'm in the Plymouth NH area, I have a college, a super Walmart, building a Lowes and Home Depot. Another big box is apparently coming in but name is still a secret. Takes me an hour to get to big malls and 2 hours to Boston. I can ride my horses clear to the Canadian border and listen to the coyotes howl at night. Best of both worlds and now sales and income taxes.
Correcting a typo: you meant to say, "Best of both worlds and no sales and income taxes."
That no sales tax and no state income tax advantage is an attractive feature of New Hampshire. Wish we had the same thing here in Maine. But then our state would have "no visible means of support". (grin)
South Berwick is alot bigger in regards to their downtown area, and their pricetag..lol. The kids also go to a differant school system. Our downtown in Berwick consists of a town building with the police there, a couple little stores (haircut place, a nice restaraunt, and a Subway which is yet unopened) Our school system is shared with North Berwick, and Lebanon. You can search MSAD #60 for school info. Berwick and the surounding towns are pretty quiet. So...yea...culture shock is a definate! You do learn to love the quiet. It's true what the licence plates say 'Maine IS the way life should be,' even in a bordertown!
Posted by: Barncats So. Maine (My Page) on Sat, Nov 5, 05 at 5:56
Check out York, Maine
Lots of history - beautiful homes - great beaches - 10 minutes to Portsmouth NH for tax free shopping and great restaurants - 30-45 min to Portland.
UNH, UNE, USM all are an easy commute
It IS a beautiful place to live, though.
Covehillsoaper is absolutely correct in the assessment of real estate prices in York. 250-300K might get you a '50s ranch that you could renovate. Lots are expensive and you need to be sure you get one with a building permit... if you don't, you will likely have to wait a year/two before you'll be able to get one.
Ogunquit is a lovely town, there is an elementary school and the older kids go to the Wells school system. I beg to differ that it isn't a "place for children"... I know several people and kids from that community; they are pleasant, polite, and unconsumed with preconceived notions about "alternative lifestyles". :)
I totally agree with chelone about Ogunquit.(Hi neighbor!) A more beautiful and friendlier town in the southern coast is hard to find. Population is small but swells during the summer months, as do most Maine coastal towns. Kids do flurish there and it is family friendly. It does have a gay population in town but so do just about all other towns. I think the snipes about alternative lifestyles say more about the person that said them then anything else. Good luck with your serch. Have you decided on an area yet PF? NancyLouise
Hi Long Island,
I moved here from Chicago and anywhere you go is going to be quieter than the congested noisy traffic of NY. In fact, as you know from vacationing, it's a different world here. In many ways far more primitive than one expects in 2006.
I'm in the Lewiston Auburn region and I wouldn't recommend that despite the fact there are a couple schools within shouting distance. Most of the modest sized towns have non-cozy downtown regions. I haven't seen the Gilmore Girls, but I can tell you you'll have better luck finding that in NH. Dover for instance is cozy. Having said that, I would recommend doing some searches via HomeGain (I think it is). They have a neighborhood calculator where you take the zip of a place you live or like to live and then punch in the zip of the place you may be going and it will tell you what town is like that in the area, based on crime and housing and other demographics.
Portland, even on its busiest day, is nowhere near as stressful as a somewhat busy day in the suburbs of Chicago, so with that in mind...
Boothbay and Freeport have cute downtowns, but are far too busy during tourist season. (I know what i said about Portland, but you know....sometimes it gets to you)
Bath is very charming. Anywhere south of Saco is really just Northern Mass. Truly. Rockland's nice. Yarmouth has an ounce of charm. Bangor is great. Stay away from the mountain towns as most of them have nothing in the way of amenities and are more like Stephen King novels.
Well not exactly "northern Massachusetts", but it has indeed become a bedroom community for the metro Boston area. Real estate prices in southern Maine reflect that trend. Southern New Hampshire (no income tax land) is actually the preferred metro-Boston bedroom community. They're closer on the newly instituted Downeaster tain, too! When I was in college, Dover was full of student rentals (a former mill town that was fortunate enough to be near UNH)... now it's full of commuter homes. Big changes in 30 years. Newmarket is no longer a mill town, and Portsmouth is no longer a gritty, wannabe port and fishing community.
The toughest part about Maine is that once you really start getting north of Portland job possibilities dwindle. "The county" and several south of it struggle with economic stagnation and population LOSS every year. It is important to remember that the happy "Vacationland" you see in the summer months is NOT the reality of this state, at all.
I wish I'd read this thread sooner! My family was in your exact situation about 8 years ago. We were living on LI in Brightwaters, I was about to head off to college, and my mom was retiring from the Bay Shore School District. I used to go away to the Audubon summer camp on Hog Island every year, and from that I knew I wanted to go to college in Maine. My family was ready to get away from all the noise and clutter of the island, and Maine seemed like the perfect contrast for them, too.
We ended up settling in Alna, which geographically very large but demographically very, very small. It's just 5 miles north of Wiscasset and Rt 1 in Lincoln county. About 20 minutes from Bowdoin, 45 from Portland/USM, and ~1.5 hrs from St. Joseph's. I went to UMaine Orono, which was about 1.5 hrs north.
We have lots of flatlander transplants in Alna because it's the ideal stereotype NYers dream of when they dream of leaving the city. There's even a swimming hole! I got married two years ago to a Londoner, and even he can't leave Alna. We fell asleep last night listening to rain, peepers, and barred owls. As for downtown, we rely on Wiscasset and Damariscotta for that, which are only about 5 minutes drive each. To really settle my street-shopping craving, I go to Portland's Old Port about twice a month, and like I said, that's only 45 minutes away. It took longer to take the LIRR to the city from Bay Shore.
Real estate is up in Alna at the moment, but it's still nothing compared to what you'll get for your house. Even so, Whitefield is the next town north from here on 218, and though it's just as great as Alna, there's a big difference in price.
If you're still looking, and if you want to look into Alna, let me know. We could be neighbors again! I know for a fact you're making the right decision.
Here is a link that might be useful: Some properties available in Alna
Alna sounds beautiful.
One of the problems I've run into is school ratings. What would you say are some of the best school districts around? Also...my better half loves the ocean. We've been to Popham beach which was cold but we still loved it. How far is Alna from a swimmable ocean beach (with waves and everything!)? How about jobs?
thanks all!!!
I've read all the other postings and can't believe no one has mentioned Brunswick..it is on the coast, has Bowdoin College and a gorgeous downtown. It is the home of an air base right now, but it will be closing within the next five or so years. The school system is still very good as far as I know. (My kids are 30 and 34) I was born and brought up there and think it may fit your needs.
You are going to be hard pressed to find something close to the ocean, near a job "center" (Portsmouth, Portland), that is quiet (not right in town), with great schools and under $200k. The lot my house is on would cost more than that. I
The less expensive areas generally are the ones that have far fewer jobs (and lower paying ones) or are very seasonal. The better paying jobs are in NH and MA. I commute to Boston everyday. I live about 4 miles from the Piscataqua River bridge. Maine is VERY different culture and attitude wise than Mass and NH, even though the proximity is close.
There are many, many beautiful places in Maine. The trick is the job situation. What do you do for a living? It is very relevant to where you want to live.
What do you do for work and what can you spend on a house?
It's been about a year since you posted your original question, so how about an update. Have you moved to Maine yet, and if so, where did you choose and why?
I will check back on this site for your reply. If you still are in NY, I'll offer some ideas for you.
Now my brother in Orrington just called....says Bucksport is what we're looking for. Couple of acres...commutable to Bangor, near the bay and river. But my sweety wants PA. She doesn't want that much winter. I told her that in 1979-1980, I spent a year in Bangor and they had more snow down south than in Bangor!
For Christmas, I'm asking Santa for direction.
Thanks to all for your patience. Merry Christmas!!!
I am in Shapleigh bean here two years love it. I am in a small town its nice I am an our from portland and portsmouth, Nh it works out well.heres a link
I grew up in South Portland, which is kind-of suburbia-ish -- but i grew up near Hinkley Park in the 80's when no one seemed to go there. I would recommend on your next visit to the area, you look it up -- it's a huge forest park with 4 large bridges and running/skiing/walking trails. I lived on Richards St. Maybe not so cheap now, but this area of town is really good for growing up in still; it's 10 minutes from downtown Portland.
I now live in Olympia, WA. The job market is sooooo bad here. I am hoping to move back to Maine, and I have found your blog really helpful. Thank you so much for starting this conversation. There are so many good links about Moving to Maine in every Mainer's comments. And on a Gardening Blog! (of course).
By the way, two resources I have found exceedingly helpful and inspiring are:
1) People Places and Plants, The Gardeing Magazine from Maine
2) the book What Color is Your Parachute? 2007 edition. This is our world's best seeling career guide, with a section on how to move AND get a job in that new place BEFORE -- alot of helpful career-changing and job search advice.
3)Also -- It's a great idea to get a subscription to the Maine Sunday Telegram and also Downeast Magazine -- to start doing some local reading and research.
All my best! Thank you for everything,
Mary Ellen
Here is a link that might be useful: http://www.ppplants.com/
Hello all,
I am new to this site and new to Maine. Pequafrog, I can identify with your dilemma(s) although I do not have kids, so my "moving to Maine" burden was a little smaller. I am from Delaware and am moving this week to Old Orchard Beach. I decided to rent for a year in order to postpone the real estate problem. Luckily real estate went down compared to a year ago, but I can't afford much on my salary. And as everyone points out, you must adjust your housing expectations to see what you get in Maine for the money.
I interviewed a year ago with a big company and did not get the job. I interviewed this Dec. and got a job starting Feb 1st with a nonprofit in Portland. I will be paid 2/3 of what I was making in Delaware, but my rent is the same, cost of living is a bit higher as Del has no sales tax and income tax is less than Maine (you knew this, right?). The only financial bright spot is that my car and renters insurance will cost me about half.
While I applaud your willingness to move without a job, I wouldn't recommend it in this terrible economy - anywhere, let alone Maine - unless of course you have a lot of money to live on until things happen. Being a gypsy is a wonderful thing and I wouldn't trade it - but it costs money.
I use craigslist.org to find goods and services. I use MaineToday.com to read the paper. I used JobsInME.com to find a job. The other sites that everyone else recommended are excellent. I used realtor.com to look at real estate and decided to rent (again craigslist).
Yes, you must do your homework: what kind of work will you do, how will you live, can you afford to take a cut in pay (because you will) and is the lifestyle worth it? Of course it is! Peepers instead of trucks! No contest!
For me the issue is the commute. I have 2 dogs that I do not want waiting while I commute an hour to Portland, so I ended up in Old Orchard Beach. I've commuted a lot in my life and do not want to do it anymore, let alone consider wear and tear on the car and the price of gas. Plus my time - I want to be home and playing with the dogs if there's any light out!
I can't wait to grow a few things in OOB, daylilies or whatever, who cares as long as it's green and breathes.
Because I am FLEEING the mid-Atlantic, I'm surprised that you are also looking at PA and VA due to weather. In my opinion, Maine has it all over the mid-Atlantic because of the lack of air pollution. I can't breathe in DE or PA, and everyone here has chronic sinus infections. Everyone here thinks that is normal. I want some air.
Good luck, and as a waitress from Baltimore told us on one trip, "Get on up here NOW!"
Welcome to OOB, Doegirl. I live down the road in Saco. We can grow lots more than daylilies around here!
Here is a link that might be useful: join us some time
Hi all,
Made it - whew - just in time for the big blizzard. Kind of hard to believe that all kinds of good things are lying dormant under the snow, innit???
My commute to downtown is about 25 min from OOB, however the parking garage is another 10-15 minute hike, depending on the wind! BRRRR !
I am loving the new job. Looking forward to spring and summer, even if I am in heart of tourista town!
Cape Elizabeth, Yarmouth, Boothbay Harbor, Bowdoin, Manchester, Harpswell...There are many great places. If I were in your shoes, I woud look for a nice piece of land and put a Connor Home on it. These homes are antique reproductions that are prefabed in VT. Yankee Magazine did an article on them a few years ago and I feel in love with them. They have a range of prices. Even better, an interior package for built-ins, wide pine board floor, moldings-amazing stuff.
Good luck
Scarborough was beautiful on Sunday! Sunny..not too cold. We drove past a huge Marsh...I guess it's a Preserve because there's this kind of boardwalk where folks were walking their dogs. One thing: Does it get buggy there during the summer?
thanks again!
ps. this is Higgins beach.
Hello PF...
Since you are on target for this summer, have you decided on a town? I just discovered this post, because I always wanted to move to Maine too. I guess we are all looking for the perfect place and at least for me, I am sure I tend to romanticize it. I think I developed my sense of 'Maine' from books that I read growing up mixed together with a little dash of trips to Maine. :-) Then when our children were small, I seemed to keep finding books for children set in Maine and that just kept the dream alive. lol Blueberries for Sal for some reason sticks in my memory.
I have a feeling that the Maine I imagine, doesn't exist any more, if it ever did. I would love the opportunity to visit Maine more and hopefully find that at least some of my imaginings about Maine are on target.
I enjoyed reading about the different towns in Maine that have some of the qualities you are looking for. Great thread. :-)
Hey Prairie Moon.
We have decided on Scarborough. Several reasons went into this decision. Proximity to family (in Topsham),Portland (jobs, sea dogs!), highly rated schools and near the ocean. I know that we've also 'built up' Maine in our minds but we're trying to be realistic about our expectations. It's just that every time we visit, we love what we see. The people that we've come in contact with are so friendly and helpful. We're going to put the house up for sale in March and hope to move by July. Maine...here we come! Good luck PM!
Thanks to everyone for all your input!
Wow, PF you made your decision, Congratulations! Good luck with selling your house. Hopefully in your area of NY there hasn't been too much of a downturn in the housing market. Welcome to Maine. I know you'll love it. I always have. NancyLouise
Thanks NancyLouise. I hope we can find a nice old Farm House with an acre or two. We don't mind a fixer-upper. In fact, we look forward to that. :-)
If the housing downturn is too bad, we'll just stay another year. I just hope that doesn't happen!
okay here's my suggestion
Woolwich, it's not actually southern maine, more midcoast. it's about 45 mins from Portland. anyways, we have an awesome school system here. our school still has the elementary and middle school combined. its wonderful having the older kids mentor the younger ones. Bowdion College is less than 20 mins away. It is very quiet and a great community. we dont' have a downtown area like Stars hallow. lol, but the next town over, just across the river is Bath, which has a lovely maine street feel. the prices and taxes are not as high as some of the southern communities. Anyways it's a wonderful place to raise a family. my family has been in this area for 7 generations and almost none of us move away. that says something about the community. well best of luck with all of this. but remember to keep Woolwich in mind.

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Help! My leaves are turning yellow!!
Ok, newbie back...kinda panicking. The bottom leaves of some of my roses are turning yellow.
Any ideas? Am I watering too much? Or do I need to add something??
Sorry the pictures are out of focus some. I sure do appreciate any help ya'll can offer!
Lower leaves often depart, particularly as the year advances.
They're worn out.
It's normal.
Aside from that, tho it is blurry, you may have some blackspot on Verdun.
(I wouldn't stake my life on that, as it's pretty blurry.)
And the Kordes rose problem COULD be downy mildew.
You might get better images if you could put your leaves in a flatbed
scanner, and scan 'em.
My guess would be that it's nothing worse than the summer heat. Many of my roses, if not most, have the same problem, even though I water every second day. My tea roses (not hybrid teas) seem the least susceptible to this. When cooler weather and/or rain comes, these leaves will drop off and new green foliage will grow in their place.
Mine have this, too. I just went ahead and pulled them off. Because in my experience, they just turn brown and fall off anyway. I think mine was from heat. We went 21 days without rain and it was 80-90 degrees even in the morning! They looked pretty sad and bare, but they're starting to come back out now.
I'm just a novice, but I put a little Miracle Grow on mine to help them out so they weren't so bare.
I have a lot of this because of the drought. I've just been pulling them off. Most of them are the older larger leaves that are months old. Senile tissue, as jeri would say.
The interesting thing is that since we had all that rain last week, many of my roses have perked up. I had my 3 Barrone Prevost which looked positively awful. Their leaves were almost black (I did spray fungicide and I think they were so dehydrated they were damaged) and now the new growth is a bright light green. It looks funny, but I'm glad to see them doing well.


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HappyPosted Oct 22, 2014 on Hotels.com
Very happy with all, would definitely recommend.
for Everyoneby A verified traveler
Lovely hotel right on the beachPosted Sep 27, 2014
Great little hotel, would love to go back. Only problem we had was not with hotel but with water Taxi just the other side of the bridge near hotel. We used it once at night & had a drunk driver who's wife took over the driving & the boat was stuck on a sand bank for over an hour very frightening, Don't use it as I not sure you will be safe on it. The hotel was wonderful just like everyone else has said.
for Everyoneby A verified travelerfrom UK
Delta Hotel Calis BeachPosted Sep 24, 2014
Pros: Location, staff, comfort
Cons: the silicone sealants in the bathroom should be changed more often
Location: Favorite restaurants Bella Mamma's and Motto Dining (MD a little pricey though). For excursions and activities go to Lee at Seaside Travel
We had a lovely stay in Delta. We arrived at night and in the beginning I was disappointed that we couldn't get a room with the sea view, but when in the morning we saw from our window the sun rising from the mountains, we thought it was even better. The hotel is modern and clean, our room was spacious and comfortable, everything in good working order. Their restaurant Bella Mama's is one of the best in Calis and it's lovely to eat so close to the sea. All the staff are friendly and polite, most helpful receptionists always ready to answer any question and give a good advise.
for Everyoneby A verified travelerfrom London
Loved it! 5 stars!Posted Sep 17, 2014
Me and my boyfriend stayed here for a week, our room overlooked the river with the river taxis which was lovely. Our room was incredibly spacious and super clean! The staff and the manager are all so lovely and polite and make you feel very welcome. The manager came round to each table at breakfast to ensure everyone was getting on ok and to see if they needed anything. The food at the restaurant is delicious and great value and the views are amazing over looking the sea. Can't wait to stay here again on out next visit :)
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地點好,餐也優Posted Sep 9, 2014 on Hotels.com
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Excellent holiday .Posted Sep 2, 2014
Pros: Sea view rooms a must. Up grade to roof top appartment for an exceptional accommodation. Would find it very hard to fault anything about our stay.
Cons: If there was any improvement to be made it would be for the hotel to have a pool, know the beach just over road but not the cleanest.
Location: Explore by water taxi .
Had a fabulous holiday. Small quite resort , not for people that want to go for night life. Resort more or less closes at midnight . ( wonderful for us ) some great eating places including the one below hotel , which also belongs to the owners of the hotel, which I might add are a lovely couple who bend over backwards to please. The beach isn't the nicest , or the cleanest I've been to , but was ok.
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Great hotel overlooking the beachPosted Aug 12, 2014
Having explored fethiye we were very pleased we choose calis beach as the atmosphere was far more relaxed with a true holiday feel. Delta hotel had wonderful reviews and it didn't let us down. ..The location was Central and looked over the beach, perfect for a sun downer when watching the famous sunsets. The lack of pool didn't bother us as we are beach people and were off exploring most days. The staff were more than helpful with advice about the area and I fact gave some wonderful recommendations. ..thanks. The room was modern, clean and comfortable and the view beach side was really quite special. Would definitely recommend Delta hotel.
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for Everyoneby A verified travelerfrom uk
Nice hotel nice food good locationPosted Jul 21, 2014
Very nice hotel, rooms nice and spacious and clean, staff very friendly, bella mammas below serves great food. Location is great right by beach, not ideal for families as no swimming pool but great for couple's if you like the beach. Would highly recommend this hotel to freinds and would happly stay again
for Everyoneby Gillofrom lincs
Great hotel with fantastic staff!Posted Jun 24, 2014
Pros: The staff particularly were brilliant.
Cons: The breakfast could be improved, even if it meant increasing the room rate slightly. Eg offering fresh orange and proper coffee at no charge.
Location: Right on the beach, with its own restaurant and then plenty of shops, bars and other restaurants nearby.
This hotel is in a great location, facing the beach and near a large number of restaurants and bars. The rooms are great, spacious, modern and clean. The staff are fantastic and will do everything they can to make your stay perfect. Overall an exceptional value for money hotel.


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I am interested in purchasing Carhart apparel ...do you sell thru the internet...I cant find a place to click on nor do I see where to click to view your selection...I live in the U.P. and always stop when I travel down state..I dont travel anymore..
I used to work at Norman's in Gaylord many years ago before they moved to their current location. I live out of state now and cannot travel to Michigan to purchase the big men's clothing for my husband. They would increase their revenue if they had a website and allowed B2C business.
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to leave or pull?
I started my tomatoes from seed this year, and am growing in containers. I transplanted a few into their permanent homes a few weeks ago and they are doing well, but a few of them sat around in small pots far too long, got very leggy, and started to rot along the bottom of the stems (white bubbly bits. Not very healthy, I know that much).
Last night, I planted the two best of the bunch in 18 gallon containers, but even planting the root ball at the bottom of the container, they are still tall and leggy and won't get as much support (container is at least 2ft deep). I have a few other smaller seedlings that are much healthier.
So, should I leave them in there, give them lots of food, and see how they do? Or just pull em, and replace with my healthier plants, even though they will produce much later.
Too bad the best looking one I accidentally snapped when trying to transplant! I stuck it deep in some dirt to see if that might keep it alive, but I expect to find it all wilty when I get home.
I could use the space for my eggplant instead...
Peggy, the "white bubbly bits" are most likely not rot but adventitious roots, and not a problem.
The tomato plant's normal reaction to high humidity (whether in the air in rainy weather or along the ground) is to produce roots.
Here's a thread with more info and a photo of some unusually long adventitious roots:
Even if the broken stem is wilty when you get home, give it a bit of shade, keep it watered, and in a week or so it will look like a brand new plant (which it will be).
Well, I decided to sacrifice them instead, mostly to give space to more eggplant.
But thanks for the advice. It has been humid in the house. I might give a few seedling to a friend, and I'll just tell her to bury it deep and let it do its thing.
I have several smaller seedling that I might plant a little later so when the bigger ones give out (containers might be a bit constricting) I'll have replacements.


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Stephen Starr's popular Rittenhouse Square bistro pays homage to Paris
If you love Paris in the springtime, Parc is a veritable grand cru.
With Parc, famed restaurateur Stephen Starr brings a certain je ne sais quoi to Rittenhouse Square. Parc offers an authentic French bistro experience, fully equipped with a chic Parisian ambiance and gorgeous sidewalk seating overlooking the Square.
Parc's menu encourages a joyful dining experience, where croissants, champagne and conversation are enjoyed in equal measure.
Sample hors d'oeuvres include salade lyonnaise with warm bacon vinaigrette and poached egg, escargots served in their shells with hazelnut butter and a crispy duck confit with frisée salad and pickled chanterelles.
Outstanding entrées include boeuf bourguignon with fresh buttered pasta and steak frites with peppercorn sauce. A variety of plats du jour are also offered, including a seafood-rich bouillabaisse on Fridays and a sumptuous coq au vin, perfect for Sunday night suppers.
And what's an authentic French meal without wine? More than 160 expertly chosen varietals are offered by the bottle, with more than 20 available by the glass.
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With seating for more than 75 at its sidewalk and window seating, Parc has instantly become one of the best places in Philadelphia for alfresco drinking and dining.
The awning-covered seating wraps around the restaurant's two sides and overlooks Rittenhouse Square, one of Philadelphia's most popular public spaces.
The aroma of freshly baked breads fills the air as one enters Parc's casual front room, which is clad in hand-laid Parisian tiles in shades of ecru and green.
Red leather banquettes flanked by frosted glass offer subtle intimacy, while well-worn wooden chairs, reclaimed bistro tables and mahogany paneled walls give the room a sense of place.
The more formal dining room provides a slightly more sophisticated experience while maintaining the energy and emotion of a bustling brasserie.
To put it simply, Parc is nothing short of an authentic Parisian dining experience — right here in the heart of Rittenhouse Square.
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We're having another busy spring here in Portland with 49 young turtles under care here at the Oregon Zoo. These turtles were hatched in monitored nests in the wild and brought to the Zoo as hatchlings last September.
Since last fall, the young turtles have been living in semi-aquatic tanks in the zoo's Conservation Center inside the Cascades Stream and Pond exhibit building. They are kept at room temperature which stimulates them to eat throughout the year. Favorite foods include herring (3x/week) and three different kinds of worms (wax, meal and earth). By the end of this summer, the turtles will have grown to the size of three-year old turtles in the wild - too large to be eaten by non-native predators that include large mouth bass and bullfrogs - and can safely be released back into the wild in ponds near the Columbia River.
Under the direction of the Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife, the goal of the Western Pond Turtle Recovery Program is to re-establish self-sustaining populations of western pond turtles in the Puget Sound and Columbia Gorge regions. The recovery objectives are to establish at least 5 populations of >200 pond turtles, composed of no more than 70% adults, which occupy habitat that is secure from development or major disturbance. It is also necessary that the populations show evidence of being sustained by natural recruitment of juveniles. The core pond turtle sites should be wetland complexes that may be less susceptible to catastrophes than sites of a single water body.
Thanks again to everyone for your help with this important conservation project. GlobalGivcing supporters DO make a difference and demonstrate progress on our stated mission: "to inspire our community to create a better future for wildlife."
Many thanks to everyone who has contributed to the success of this conservation effort. Here's the latest news on the turtle project!
Visitors can see endangered western pond turtles until they grow large enough for release
PORTLAND, Ore. –– October 6, 2010 - It's roundup time in the Northwest! For nearly a decade, the Oregon Zoo has employed a "head 'em up and move 'em out" strategy in its efforts to save endangered western pond turtles.
Earlier this month, the zoo and its conservation partners rounded up turtle hatchlings from southwest Washington lakes to rear in a protected environment until they are big enough to be released back into the wild. Visitors can now view nearly 40 hatchlings –– each a bit larger than a quarter –– at the zoo's conservation station, located in the Cascade Stream and Pond Building.
Over the next nine months, zoo staff members will monitor and weigh the rare turtles as they grow. Once they reach a suitable weight of more than 2.5 ounces, the turtles will be returned to the wild and monitored for safety.
"When we release the turtles, they're big enough that predators like non-native bullfrogs are no longer a threat," said David Shepherdson, the zoo's conservation biologist. "The months the turtles spend at the zoo give them a real edge — scientists estimate that 95 percent of the turtles we've released into the Columbia River Gorge have survived."
Twenty years ago, western pond turtles had nearly disappeared from Washington, their native habitat, with only 150 turtles left in the wild. Today, researchers estimate there are about 1,600.
Habitat degradation and disease continue to endanger the species, but the biggest threat to fragile baby turtles is the bullfrog. Native to areas east of the Rockies, this nonindigenous frog has thrived throughout the West, driving pond turtles and a host of other small, vulnerable aquatic species to the brink of extinction.
"The Western Pond Turtle Recovery Project is a collaborative effort of the Oregon Zoo, Woodland Park Zoo, Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife, U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service, and the Bonneville Power Administration," said Kim Smith, zoo director. "We're proud to be a partner in the effort to help restore the western pond turtle population and its habitat in the wild."
Every summer, wildlife recovery biologists monitor female turtles in the field to determine where they will dig their nests. Once the turtles have laid their eggs, workers cover the nests with wire "exclosure" cages that help prevent predators from eating the eggs. The eggs are then allowed to incubate naturally, and hatchlings are collected in the fall.
The hatchlings are barely the size of a quarter when they are taken to the Oregon Zoo and the Woodland Park Zoo. Unlike wild turtles, the zoo turtles are fed and kept warm throughout the winter, so by their summer release, the 10-month-olds are as big as wild 3-year-old turtles.
"We make sure our turtles can hold their own before releasing them into the wild," Shepherdson said.
The zoo is a service of Metro, and is dedicated to its mission of inspiring the community to create a better future for wildlife. With award-winning programs in conservation, exhibits, education and animal enrichment, the zoo is a national leader in animal welfare and wildlife preservation. Committed to conservation, the zoo is currently working to save many endangered and threatened species, including California condors, Washington's pygmy rabbits, Oregon silverspot and Taylor's checkerspot butterflies, western pond turtles, Oregon spotted frogs and Kincaid's lupine.
Thanks to everyone for helping with our western pond turtle head start program. With your help, the Oregon Zoo will continue to help rebuild wild populations of this endangered species with the ultimate goal of self-sustaining turtle populations in the Pacific Northwest.
We've had a busy spring here in Portland with 65 young turtles under care here at the Zoo. Sometime in early August, these charismatic little guys will be released back into the wild in ponds near the Columbia River. After nearly a year of eating and growing inside our Conservation Center located in our Cascade Stream and Pond building, these turtles are nearing the size required for release.
These baby turtles arrived as hatchlings last September- each at an average weight of 7 grams. Now they tip the scales at more than 75 grams apiece! Four "holdover" turtles from 2008, now weighing up to 250 grams, will also be returned to the wild. All will be too big for bullfrogs and largemouth bass to eat and, hopefully, they'll spend the next 9 years growing to the age when they can breed and produce more turtles.
Before they are released, each young turtle will be micro-chipped with its unique identification number and have a harmless, small notch made in their carapace to help Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife field biologists to identify them without needing to catch them again. Release day is a special occasion. It's great to see them swim off, even if keepers are sometimes a little sad to see them go.
But then, in September, we'll receive another 60-70 baby turtles and the growing process will begin all over again. If you find yourself in Portland, Oregon and are interested in seeing our current population of young turtles, please stop by and say "hello!"
Thanks again to everyone for your help with this important conservation project. GlobalGivcing supporters DO make a difference and demonstrate progress on our stated mission: "to inspire our commuinity to create a better future for wildlife."


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Just shot in RAW for the first time. I uploaded View NX 2 that came w/my camera. I have never used any post processing software before.I would like to post some pics to my facebook acct, we just returned from vacation with friends. It looks like in ViewNX2 there is the NEF file & JPG showing for each picture. Can I use these JPG files to upload to fb? How do I get them out of ViewNX2 to use them?My goal here really is to get Lightroom & start learning how to use that. In the meantime, I just want to get some pics up from vacation quickly.Thanks,Tracy
Hi Tracy,In the recent Versions of View NX2 (I have Ver2.5.1 at present) if you press Ctrl-K (Options) and look at the bottom of the list displayed you will see "Web Services". I think the default is FaceBook and U-Tube and you can add more.If you click on "Web Services" you can work through the various options provided.I am sorry to say that I occasionally frequent FB to see what my daughters "down under" are up to but have never uploaded a picture to FB. Maybe when you report back I will be motivated to share some pics :>)Edit: I also meant to suggest that you download the latest Version of VNX2 (Free) from your local Nikon site if your version does not have this facility...
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Thank you for the help. I couldn't figure that one out...I see it as an option but couldn't figure out how to do it.I did eventually manage to figure out how to convert the NEF files to JPEG so I could use some immediately.Tracy
TracyIn View NX2 the convert command is the easiest way to convert NEF to JPEG. For web use, you should set the longest side of the file at something around 800 to 1000 pixels. Then pick a quality setting so that the file size is relatively small - generally around 40-45 percent. This results in a nice small file of 100-200kb.My process is to save all my web sized JPEGs in a separate folder. Individual images or a handful from a trip go in that folder. If I have a larger group they go in their own sub folder from that event or trip. So I have a folder called Web Post 2013 for everything from this year. This approach lets me use those small JPEGs for other reasons such as my screen saver or desktop background - or even to post here on Nikonians.Eric BowlesNikonians TeamMy GalleryWorkshopsNikonians membership my most important photographic investment, after the camera