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Our recent road trip to see Katie and her amazing house gave us that tickle to get down to business when we got back home. You know how your DIY momentum is up and you're moving right along ticking things off your to-do list and then the dust clears and you're just spent and need a little break? Like, mehaps, a road trip? That seems to be the way it goes with us. When it comes to house progress, we tend to work in fits and starts. But then something sparks that get-back-to-business excitement and suddenly we're done with our four-ish day Hammer And Paint Brush Hiatus and are refreshed and ready to go. Yeah, so that happened.
I guess being on the road produced that absence makes the heart grow fonder effect. Not that we were mad at our house, but we just weren't raring to go when we left like we were when we got back. So the morning after our 9.5 hour drive I woke up early, sorted through a million (ok, a thousand) photos, wrote that shopping post that went up in the afternoon, caught up on comments/Facebook/Twitter/email, wrote this house crashing post for the next morning, and then it was dinnertime. Then I up and made dining room curtains. And they might just be my favorite things in the whole darn house.
Seriously, you guys know we're into our hallway frame gallery a little too much (along with our giant bedroom light fixture and humongous gray sectional). And I adore my weird horse art and miscellaneous ceramic animal menagerie. But you'd think I carried these curtains for nine months and went through 48 hours of labor to bring them into this world – that's how much I love them. And it only took me about an hour and a half – two tops – to make them. Wham, bam, thank you Katie (for the kick-in-the-pants inspiration that your gorgeous house provided).
Here's how it all went down. We already mentioned snagging this deeply discounted curtain fabric from a local fabric outlet called U-Fab (for anyone looking for it by name, it's "Robert Allen's Khanjali Peacock" so googling that hopefully turns up some of your own). It was fancy schmancy designer fabric that I'd been in love with forever, but it was marked down to $12.99 a yard (as opposed to the original cost of $40+ a yard!) thanks to a bit of an irregularity in the fabric (a white stripe that ran down one side, which I knew I could work around).
Since I wanted two 90-ish inch panels for either side of the big picture window in the dining room I calculated that five yards would do the trick, which factored out to $32 a panel (still not dirt cheap but a whole lot cheaper than the regular price of that fabric, which would have run me $100 a panel). Score.
We're just not really curtain closing and opening folks (except in the nursery since we close the blinds and draw the curtains – anything for five more minutes of sleep) so we don't plan to draw them shut (we add white faux wood blinds or bamboo shades when it comes to actually gaining privacy, although since we usually hang out in the back of the house when it's dark enough to see into the windows, we're not in any rush to add privacy blinds or shades just yet). But we do love hanging curtains high and wide to let the light stream in and add height and drama. Which means we didn't have to worry about the width (since we'd need a lot more of that than what we had to cover the long picture window). And boy are these babies a fresh little slap in the face compared to the white Ikea Vivan curtains that we embraced in nearly every room of our last house.
But on to how I made them. First I rolled out the fabric on a 5 x 8′ rug in our office (one of my completely not patented ways to get straight cuts since you can line up the fabric with the corners/edges of the rug to be sure it's square before snipping away). Then I just pulled out my tape measure to see how long I wanted them (90″ each before hem allowances, which would make them about 87″ long after hemming – but then I add ring hooks which make them 90″ again):
It was as simple as lining up the end of the fabric with the 90″ mark on my tape measure and then cutting the other edge against the rug at the 0″ inch mark, for a nice straight cut (sure enough, I was left with a nice 90″ long rectangular swatch of fabric).
When it comes to the width, I just usually go with the width that it comes right off the bolt (which is wider when you get upholster fabric like this- ours was 57″). But remember it had that defect running along one side of it, so I just cut three inches or so from that side (again I used the edge of the rug to get a straight cut). But I didn't completely cut off the white part since I knew once I hemmed it, it would be completely invisible (even from the back). You can see the normal white edge that comes on fabric on the right of the swatch below and the irregular white defect on the bottom half of the left edge below:
So there I had one 90 x 54″ curtain panel cut out, and just needed one for the other side of the window. So I laid the freshly cut one on top of the uncut remnant of fabric and used it as a template to create another panel of exactly the same size:
Then I washed both curtain panels so they would be "pre-shrunk" and easy to launder from here on out (one of our main goals is to have as many "washable" surfaces in the kitchen and dining room as possible). Oh but it's always smartest to preshrink fabric before you cut it, I just knew I only had enough fabric to make two panels of this size so whether I washed or cut it first (or cut and washed it later) I'd end up with the same sized panels in the end. I grabbed them fresh out of the dryer instead of letting them sit there to keep them wrinkle free for the most part.
Next I had to decide between my trusty curtain-making method of using iron-on hem tape or the slightly scary idea of using Oh Brother (my new sewing machine) to attempt to do what I used to use hem tape for. After a decent amount of out-loud debate with myself, I decided to try my hand at sewing curtain panels- just to see if I could do it (but you can find full curtain making tutorials with hem tape here and here). Even without my hem-tape security blanket, I did break out the iron to make a half inch "seam" down one of the short sides of the curtain. It just seems like now whenever I dabble in sewing, I find myself trying to iron instead of pinning – just to see if it'll work. Am I a rebel or what?
The ironed seam definitely stayed put while I dragged the giant fabric swatch back into the kitchen to sew the hem, so I happily skipped the pinning step and even boldly (well, maybe that adjective is a stretch) decided to try another hemming technique that some of you have commented to tell me about in previous I'm-a-shaky-little-sewing-novice posts. I took the ironed seam and folded it over one more time, then I sewed down the seam to create a nice finished looking hem (even from the back). That extra fold hid the raw cut edge of the fabric, if that makes sense. And even with my extra folding step, there was thankfully no pinning required. Sweet.
See, here's what it looked like completely folded over as I sewed down the seam.
And this method surprisingly worked on all sides (I worried the long 90″ sides of the panels wouldn't take to ironing and would need to be pinned, but it went just as well as the short sides). And as for the defect, you can see how when I folded the hem over one more time, it became invisible and I was once again left with a finished looking edge from both the front and the back.
Here's how the back of a corner looked once I was done with my quickie ironing-then-folding-then-hemming technique:
Then I clipped seven oil-rubbed bronze ring clips to each panel (from Target) and slipped them onto a super long oil-rubbed bronze rod. Oh how I love not having to sew a rod pocket or anything complicated thanks to the magic of ring clips. I ended up getting the curtain rod from Lowe's since the ones at Target weren't long enough – I ended up needing 144″ of length (that's what she said).
Our curtain hanging method (also not patented or even endorsed) is for one of us to then stand on a chair (in this case, John) while the other one steps back and looks at the length of the curtains and how they hit the floor while the chair-stander raises and lowers the rod ever so slightly until the floor-stander screams "perfect- don't move an inch or I'll kill you" and then runs up to hold a rod bracket under the perfectly held rod to measure the distance from the crown molding or ceiling that it should be hung to keep the rod right where it's being held.
Of course this only deals with the height of the rod and not the width, but we typically like to go as wide as we can with the curtains so they drape in front of the wall instead of blocking light and hanging in front of the window. In this case we went as wide as our extra long rod allowed (19″ outside of the window molding on each side). See how the panel just kisses the window and blocks wall instead of light?
Oh and notice how the curtain also seems to just graze the floor ever so slightly? Poor John raised and lowered the curtain on that chair fifteen times until it was juuuust right. We've tried measuring the wall or the panel instead of doing the by-eye real-test (involving two people, a chair, and some serious arm strength and balancing skillz) but you just can't beat the result. At least we can't. So we keep going back to it. And I tell John he's my Atlas when he's up there holding the rod up. Gotta keep team morale up.
Here's another rod shot for you. You can also see how the curtains just hang slightly in front of the window trim here as opposed to blocking the whole side window, which is only 20″ wide. Since we mentioned that we hung the panels 19″ wide on each side of the window trim, you can totally see how if they were hung flush with the trim they would block all but one inch of that 20″ side window. Which is definitely not what we were going for.
You'll have to excuse all of the wide shots of the room in this post. Things like the curtains and the room in general are coming off greener/yellower than they are in real life (the green grass/trees/bushes outside were casting a yellow-green tint through the big light-filled window, and I was too lazy to photoshop it). John will definitely be in charge of photos of this room next time around. As for the true color of the curtains, it's best depicted in the closer shots without a lot of window going on, like the ones above.
Actually this shot is probably the most accurate to what they look like in real life. I'd describe them as mostly blue with hits of green, chartreuse, white, and brown. Crazy busy but also crazy gorgeous if you're me (and miracle of all miracles, John loves them too). Who ever would have thought that two white curtain fiends like us could branch out and embrace curtain color and pattern? I wonder if my mom will like these or they'll finally be a choice that she won't endorse. What say you, mom?
Here's another wide shot where they look more yellow/green than they really do in real life (they're more like a teal blue color when you glance at them from afar) but you get the idea. Oh and the dark rod ties into the other deep tones in the room (the chair legs and dark dining table, the deep color on the back of the built-ins, etc). So that's why I chose it over stainless or white. I always think a dark rod hung high and wide is like eyeliner on a window.
Mmmm, here's a good shot of my favorite detail in the fabric. See those smeary turquoise blobs? They tie so deliciously into the slightly darker teal on the back of the built-ins. Yummy. Even the little yellow-green knobs that we added to the base cabinets of the built-ins relate perfectly to the pops of bright yellowy-green chartreuse in the curtains. Hooray for happy accidents like that (we had no idea what curtain fabric we'd pick when we snagged those babies at Hobby Lobby).
Oh yeah and I had some fun setting the table. Not that anyone's coming over today. Or tomorrow. I just wanted to pull out a runner and some plates and cups and clip some random branches from outside. Why? I don't know. Why do birds sing? I guess the colorful curtains got me hot and bothered enough to break out Sue the Napkin (times seven) and add some fun to the big empty wood table.
And guess what? I'm leaving everything there tonight. Just because I'm weird and I can't wait to wake up in and morning and pad in there and smile. Kind of like how I paint a room and the next morning I run in and look at it again. Just grinning at the wall like a fool.
Isn't it amazing how much of a difference curtains can make? Well, that and some rich color on the back of those built-ins. Here's a little flash back to the room as it looked when we moved in:
And here it is now (albeit a little side-heavy with that bare wall on the left- for now):
Thought I was done? Nope. One more thing. Here's a terribly rendered depiction of the doorway that we can't wait to add that will connect the dining room to the kitchen (we plan to mirror the size of the picture window so the whole room feels nice and balanced). And of course adding a big chandelier over our giant table will add a lot more function (the room doesn't have any ceiling fixtures!):
It's so funny to remember that this room was a formal living room when we toured this house (and the office was the dining room). In fact we dug up these old shots that we took during our first walk through:
Gosh, that feels like a million years ago and it was less than six months back. As soon as we walked in we were struck by three things: we reeeally wanted the house, we wanted to change up a few of the rooms, and we reeeeally wanted the house. Yup, we were sold upon entry. I don't think we ever got into the specifics, but the sellers weren't 99% sure they even wanted to sell. In fact the night after we walked through the house for the first time they took their stuff out of storage. A sure sign to the realtor that they might take it off the market. Thank goodness it all worked out and they ended up accepting our offer.
As for looking past the way a room looks when you're house hunting to see "the real space" we just completely discount furnishings and wallpaper and paint color and even entire room functions. That's how we could look past the dining table and the sofa to almost immediately proclaim that converting the dining room into an office and turning the living room into a big spacious dining room would work more for the way we live. You know, since we have a huge family that we couldn't cram into the former dining room, a giant living room in the back of the house (no need for two), and a penchant for open living and big wiiiide doorways. We just can't help ourselves. Anyway, have you guys made any curtains lately? Knocked down any walls? Set the table for nothing but kicks?
Pssst- Soooo not a sewing person? I wasn't either. Here's a tutorial for making no-sew curtains with iron-on hem tape (and here's another one for good measure).
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You have totally inspired me to start sewing. I bought your "Oh Brother" from Amazon and it should be here tomorrow. I have both a toddler girl and a 9 month old boy's room to make curtains for. Daunting! But this tutorial seriously gave me some guts. :)
Dear Sherry, I'm not sure what to love more. Your sassy new curtains or your impeccably placed "That's what she said". I'll never be able to choose.
The curtains look great! They totally tie everything together. I really love the entire room.
I suddenly feel the need to run out and buy a sewing machine… and learn how to use it. lol
I love the curtains! You guys are such great inspiration!
This is probably weird to say, but when you and Katie Bower hang out and then post about it, it reminds me of the "Nancy Drew/Hardy Boys" crossover mysteries, where they were longer but had characters from both series? I always liked those. :)
So true! I second this comment.
My jaw literally dropped- cartoon style- when I saw the first pic of the curtains. I LOVE it! Sherry, you are a sewing fiend! This makes me want to jump on some of the projects I have planned- and I didn't even have to drive to Georgia to get that kick in the pants! Thanks for the motivation!
I think this is by far one of my favorite rooms in your house!! I adore the built-ins!! And those curtains just make the whole room come together so nicely!! It looks absolutely amazing!!
They look great! It's so amazing to see the house transform, I get so excited for you when I see something new! Do the old home owners follow your blog? Have they said anything to you about what they think of the transformations?? I love it!
Ohhh nice job! I'm a little obsessed with curtain making…anytime I make a new set and hang them up, I stare…for long periods of time! I totally get that your new panels are like a new child in the house! You're not alone on this one! :)
White balancing the photos in Bridge would have taken less time than explaining the green cast! Promise! Don't be afraid Sherry. You can do it! The key is Adobe's Bridge!
The room is gorgeous. Congrats on your "babies!"
OH EM GEE. I was soooo sad you didn't go with the apple green chairs, and look what you have gone and done. Golden Jerry, Golden. (terrible Seinfeld reference, you can ban me now if you want)
You guys never let me down.
Ok, it's getting to the point where I'm at Home Depot and ask myself "What would Sherry and John do?" We need WWSJD bracelets. Lol!
They look A-Mazing!!! I love that fabric…
What happened to your super cute printed ironing board cover? Did it clash with the fabric too much for the pictures?
I swoon over graphic drapes. I was in the middle of looking for three great pairs for the master bedroom, when I decided to stumble over here. Back to the curtain action! Who needs to work during a weekday at noon anyways?
It's lovely! They really tie this whole room together and make it look so polished.
I'm not a big curtain closer either. Our living room curtains are skinny panels hung high and wide that are entirely for softness and polish, not privacy.
Here's a cheap tip that I use in almost all of my own rooms. I buy electrical pipes from Home Depot to use as a rod. They come in 10ft lengths & 1/2″ & 3/4″ widths which is easy to cut down to whatever size you want. They come in a silver which I've pulled out the good 'ole spray paint to change to black. The prices are about $2-3 a rod. So far so good it's worked for me.
I LOVE your curtains!!! They work beautifully with your built-ins and your table, and I can't wait for you to knock that wall down and get into the kitchen!! The only thing is that the chairs just don't seem to be up to par with everything else–I agree they don't need to be showstopping distractions, but they seem to cheapen the room a bit when compared to everything else. Maybe just a fun, short, pillow in each one would give them some life? I still love the overall look–just a suggestion.
Love that fabric! We have the "Glacier" color of the same fabric on curtains in our master bath and pillows in the BR. I would have used some in every room of the house if I could have. :)
I love the way the room is coming together folks, especially the color inside the built-ins and the arrangement of all the decor pieces inside. :-) One suggestion for your curtain making (and the fabric is stunning be the way)- since your window is so wide, if you do at least a width and a half of fabric for each panel, they will look twice as full and fit the proportion of the window to the T. Also, a liner helps to give them more body too, but that's completely optional and more work (boo, lol). I must say, I work for a custom interior design company and ever since you mentioned Mary Jo Cloth, I've seen at least 8 or more fabrics listed that are doubled if not tripled at most fabric stores. Check out the Thom Filicia fabric, Burnet, it runs on average from Kravetz abut $45-$50 a yard. Also, Khajali, the one you used I just purchased for a client at $32 a yard, great deal you got! In any event, I can't wait to get down to NC for some shopping! Great job John and Sherry on the new upgrades to the house!
LOVE LOVE LOVE this room Sherry! I wasn't immediately sold on the fabric – a bit bold for me at first – but seeing how it ties the room together now definitely did it for me! And yes, I would have also set the table and run in the next morning to see it all again! I set our table on nights before a big holiday and just love seeing it all set the next morning :)
Oh my geeze! I love it! Its inspiring how all those colors fell in place. For a little privacy with the window you could always add some sheers behind the new baby that just peek out when they are open and then still look somewhat attractive when closed.
And for my suggestion on the wagon wheel light fixture, I was thinking about it, its probably too "heavy" you already have other big bold beautiful things going on in the room. Something "light" like a few lighted glass pieces or bottles floating down from the ceiling would look beautiful. I bet you will come up with something that will wow us all away!
Great post! Love how it's coming together!
Awesomeness!!! And I can sense a lot more enthusiasm and a hyper vibe in your writing now, you really did need a visit with the bestie!
I have always been a sheer white panels girl, but this is totally inspiring me to find something fun…but oh how I hate to commit to patterns and colors…we shall see, someday I will put my big girl britches on and go for something other than white sheer panels.
No light fixture? The room looks great!
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I think you'd have to be a fool to believe the root cause of this crisis was the US housing sector or loose monetary policy at the Federal Reserve from 2001 - 2005. I don't see how you can get from either of the above reasons to Iceland imploding. And I'm not sure how you could explain similar crises in East Asia, Russia, Mexico, Argentina, etc. Remember when it was popular to blame the East Asian financial crisis on corrupt lending practices by Asian banks! Hah!
If you're looking for the root cause of this crisis it is our house of cards financial system itself. The problem now is not that banks are undercapitalized, it is that no one trusts the banks. You can give them another $250b and liquidity preference will still be absolute.
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Im having a 10'x12' shed build, the concrete pad and 2high block is already in place. I plan on doing the electrical myself onceit gets framed. The shed sits about 25 feed from my houses electrical panel. This shed will have a 7x8 garage door, a couple gfi outlets, an ouside outlet, and a couple keyless lights, thats about it. (for my Harley) I am wondering what the minimum size subpanel I am required to install? I planned on hand digging a 20' trench from shed to location near house. Running some 1" pvc to feed shed. I planned on 2 ground rods, I know not to bond the neutral. I just dont know what minimum size and if there are a minimum amount of spaces required. 30 or 40 amp? There will never be any real load out there other than lights, maybe a radio plugged in, cordless battery charger etc. Nothing much. Any suggestions or advice? 50amp? Thanks in advance.
"You are not required to use a subpanel and there is no minimum amount of circuits. "
If you do not have a panel you are limited to a single circuit 9though it could be a multi-wire circuit.
If you have a sub-panel you can have as many (or as few) circuits as you want (though if you only have one or even two it is a bit of a waste since a single multi-wire is allowed an could provide two 120 V circuits).
The panel size should be based on what loads you plan on running.
If the loads are as light as you say a single 20 amp multi-wire circuit is probably still more than you meed, and then no panel is required.
As Brickeyee mentioned, for what you describe a multi-wire branch circuit would be just the ticket. I'd run 12/3 (plus a ground) UF cable. That would give you two 20 amp circuits, which should be plenty of power and would be less expensive than a sub-panel.


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The University of Kansas will soon offer a bachelor's degree in applied science in biotechnology.
Classes for the new degree will begin in the spring semester at the Edwards Campus in Overland Park. It will be the university's first bachelor of applied science degree.
The university said in a news that the new degree program will prepare students for careers in life-sciences by bridging the gap between biology, biochemistry and clinical laboratory sciences.
Those of us tuned in to social media have probably run across someone using a term like "because science" to explain something factual or amazing or both.
But "science" is often used when we really mean "technology."
To see the difference, look at your cell phone. It's a neat little bit of technology, but how often do we think about the science behind it? More to the point, how many of us really care?
Journalists and bloggers, teachers and everybody on Facebook love to use the phrase "studies show."
I love it, too.
"Studies show" tickles the part of us that asserts a superior sort of rationality and an up-to-date command of the facts. It makes us feel smart, particularly when the study we cite is surprising or new, but especially when it reinforces what we already believe.
The Kansas state school board has approved new science standards for public schools.
Throughout history snake oil salesmen have tried and succeeded at duping people with pseudo scientific nonsense:
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Comet outfielder Timmion Hughes slides into first base during CCC's game against Mendocino College at the Baseball Field on Thursday. Qing Huang / The Advocate
Comet baseball coach Marvin Webb gets thrown out of the game by an umpire due to complaints about the ruling on a home run hit by the Eagles during CCC's game against Mendocino College at the Baseball Field on Thursday. Qing Huang / The Advocate
Winning its final home game of the season and ending a six-game losing streak was a task that Contra Costa College's baseball team was not up to on Thursday.
The Comets (6-15 in the Bay Valley Conference) were not able to stop the Eagles in their 12-3 loss against Mendocino College (10-11 in the BVC) at the Baseball Field.
The Comets end their season in last place in the conference.
Mendocino got on the board first with an RBI double by Brett Loughlin in the first inning.
The Comets answered back in the bottom of the first inning with the Comets' second baseman JR Davis' leadoff walk.
An RBI single by Comets' outfielder Tyrone Bowie would give the speedy Davis enough time to score the run tying the game at 1-1.
An unassisted tag out by Mendocino's pitcher Raymond Kerr brought the first inning to a close.
The third inning saw Loughlin earn another RBI, via a controversial single shot home run that put Mendocino ahead 3-1. The ball was called a home run, though some of the players believed it was a foul ball. CCC remained behind the rest of the game.
"I watched (the ball) and thought it hooked foul, but I didn't really see it," Loughlin said.
Comets' designated pitch hitter Brandon Brown said, "It was a foul ball, because it didn't hit the fence."
The umpires' decision to rule the hit a home run came with verbal protest from the Comets' baseball coach Marvin Webb.
In the third inning Webb and Comets' shortstop Jihan Weisner were ejected after their dispute with the umpire.
Comets' starting pitcher Dominic Quilici was also ejected after hitting Mendocino outfielder Ben Miller in the head with a pitch in the top of the third inning.
"The pitcher was frustrated," Webb said. "He didn't hit the guy intentionally."
Quilici went 2 2/3 innings. He allowed five hits, three runs and struck out three batters before being replaced by relief pitcher Christian Suarez.
Suarez went 2 and 1/3 innings, allowing three hits and one run.
In the sixth inning, it looked as if the Comets would rally.
An RBI triple by CCC's third baseman Timmion Hughes sent Davis across the plate. An RBI by first basemen Byron Buckley brought the score to 4-3.
Kerr went eight innings allowing eight hits, three runs and striking out seven.
He had steady run support throughout the game, as Mendocino would have at least one run in every inning except for the fourth, fifth, and ninth.
Mendocino held the advantage for the entire game, with two RBIs apiece for Mendocino's second basemen Nick Agiliolo, first basemen Anthony Calton, catcher Kenny Semenko and Loughlin, which included his home run.
The Comets' bullpen struggled throughout the game. Giving up a combined six earned runs and 13 hits, they were not able to slow the Mendocino offense.
"We were jumping on the 2-0 counts early and staying ahead of their (Comets) pitchers," Loughlin said.
CCC's defense committed four errors.
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Yikes!Contractor's Estimate...Way Over Budget!
We're on our third contractor on our money pit. This one took up the challenge of refurbishing floors that the prior contractor deemed "impossible". Turns out the project took lots of handiwork, removing numerous nails and staples, and lots of hand-sanding along with machine sanding and the rest. I only authorized $1000 in extra labor and materials, but this contractor is invoicing us another $2k+ for lots of msc stuff I never pre-authorized.
Basic question: when a contractor gives a written estimate, how much (what percentage?) can they *reasonably* go over that written estimate? Nobody likes surprises...and this one's a shocker. :-(
To be more specific...estimate was $3226.00. I then asked that one room that was refinished (and failed to appeal) be re-done, with the flooring completely torn out and replaced with raw red oak and authorized $1000 for that install/sanding and staining/poly. But the invoice I got is way more than that, total of $5626.00, with the largest extra item hand-sanding of "entire" floor for $750 which I never authorized. The contractor knew I was looking at quotes for installing wall to wall carpeting and that the prior contractor said re-habbing our floors would be a waste of time and money. Unfortunately this latest contractor scrawled the "estimate" on paper in a cavalier manner and I stupidly didn't ask for something more official like a contract. Of course that means I didn't sign anything either. I never implied I was willing to sign a blank check, and in fact the contractor knows how upset I was about prior workers who overcharged and let schedules slip months past promised completion dates (and this job is 1.5 months past due, btw.)
I feel like I must have a sign on my back saying "Kick Me".
The numbers you're giving don't quite add up. If the original estimate was $3226 and you OK'd another $1k then the 'unauthorized' charges only come to $1400, not $2k+. I know that's not pocket change, but still...
I'm not clear on whether the extra $1400 in 'unauthorized' charges are related to the flooring that was refurbished or the flooring that was ripped out and replaced. Maybe if you can say more about these extra line-items it will be easier to tell whether the charges are reasonable.
My guess is that a combination of circumstances might've brought this on.
It does sound as if the contractor may be a poor communicator, or may not have understood how strongly you felt about staying on budget. The $1400 may seem devastating to you, but to a contractor it may not seem like a lot.
Your budget might have been unrealistically tight. I get this impression because you are refurbishing floors that one contractor 'deemed "impossible."' By 'impossible' he probably meant 'more work than it's worth.' Your current contractor may not have examined the situation as closely, or may have based his estimate on assumptions that didn't hold true, or may have simply told you what you wanted to hear.
Part of this also sounds like unrealistic expectations or, perhaps, a misunderstanding of what you were getting yourself into. Estimates are just that: estimates. They are someone's (hopefully well-informed) ballpark guess, and they are not binding on the person who makes the guess. To some degree, part of the nature of remodeling is that more work is necessary than is apparent at the outset. Since you get to keep the product of that extra work, you should also expect to pay for it.
As much sense as jon's post makes, it should also be noted that the contractor should have updated the customer of the additions as they arrived.
That being said, this is one side of the story and as valid as it might be, I wonder why this is the third contractor.
I am confused.
It's possible your flooring guy is too.
3226 with add 1000 authorized, so hes got an extra 1400 in the bill? 5626
hes not THAT far off either, 33 % may be high but what are the reasons? 20% over would be 4226 x 1.2 = 5070, 20% overrun is not unreasonable.
take a deep breath, don't judge THIS guy by the faults and misdeeds of the contractors that came before him.
It sucks to be the finish guy who arrives on a job that all of the previous contractors have screwed up and delayed.
If there was extra work and extra materials that needed to be supplied to complete the work on your home, how much do you really expect the contractor to donate?
In cases where I gave a ballpark estimate, and simply misjudged how long the additions would take, I would negotiate to share some of the cost. In cases where the extra was clearly needed, yet not anticipated by either me or the owner, then the cost and the benefit are both fully the customers.
In other words, if it was contractor misjudgment, theres room to negotiate the cost of extra labor, anywhere from 50/50 to 90/10% to 10/90%.
If the extra occurred in good faith, trying to fix a situation but then realizing replacement is necessary, then costs add up for the customer. The contractor should be responsible for his own specialty and guarantees, but not be expected to be a charity donating time or materials, (money) to the home of the customer because of the unforseen.
Like when we tried to refinish a kitchen floor that was buried under adhesive, staples and vinyl. We hope it works out but when we finally got through to bare wood we discover the floor is too deeply stained to come back and then opt for replacement . As a contractor, its not MY fault that somewhere under the muck the floor was unsalvageable but it took $500 labor to find out. Customer could accept ugly stained floor polished up, or opt to replace the wood, effectively paying for 2 jobs.
Though the job may be done, and there were apparently lapses in proper communication from both parties. You still need to sit down, talk and communicate with EACH OTHER.
Be honest. Be open and Be specific.
It's never too late for that.
Then decide TOGETHER what is fair.
Shake hands and pay the guy what you both agree is fair.
good luck and enjoy!
There are two issues: legal obligation and moral obligation and these are getting confused in some of the responses.
If you sign a contract, you are either agreeing to pay a set amount (that's not an "estimate," it's an agreed upon amount), an amount with some extra that you have authorized (something like an "allowance"), or whatever it takes to get the job done -- time and materials -- in which case the estimate is only an estimation, not a promise. I'm sure there are other versions but those are three possibilities.
Unless you have specifically contracted to simply pony up all the money for all the time and all the materials that might be required, you have not made a contract to pay for everything. Overruns do not have some legal significance just because contractors frequently encounter them unless they are part of a binding contract.
This situation is some sort of oral and/or implied contract so only a lawyer could give advice as to the legal obligation involved.
What the OP chooses to negotiate because s/he wants to be fair and did want the job completed is a separate story.
My contractor is not an illegal. I authorized the $1K extra to pull out about 20 sq ft of wood that hadn't been replaced with new wood...it had burns from a fire and had been sanded as much as possible but still couldn't be redeemed. Rather than allow staining & finishing on a room with those deep black burn marks I authorized $1K to replace with new wood. The sanding, stain & finish were in the first quote for the entire job. Sorry if I wasn't clear.
And for whomever asked why is this the third contractor: the first one promised a list of 7 jobs to be completed in 3 weeks and finished in just shy of 4 months, he also didn't remove demolition debris even though reminded repeatedly he needed to do that, plus he was high priced while his work was generally shoddy. One example: install of a 4x10 deck that violates local code, as it turns out...and now I have to completely replace that deck.
The second contractor went back to school fulltime and is not doing contract work until he gets off in summertime.
I'm now so many months behind I face losing a home because of carrying costs of two places. This third contractor also had to re-do plumbing which was done horribly, but that's another issue. I guess I'll just try to be happy that the house hasn't blown up yet; it seems everything else has happened.
Thanks for your opinions...it helps.
I would be upset too. I can't see where there should be any unforseen expenses in this job. I'm assuming there were no subfloor issues. And, if there were sub floor issues a homeowner should be made aware of the additional expense. It sounds like and Remove and Replace job to me....pretty simple to figure.
This is why communication is so important. Each time you change course, you should get it in writing. It sounds like the contractor was a poor communicator and probably not trying to cheat you, so how about sitting down and going over the bills. Talk rationally and perhaps you can find a middle ground. If the work was good and you have friends you would refer him to, mention that and he might cut you a break in hopes of long term gain.


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Pittsburgh council president will not run for mayor
Pittsburgh City Council President Darlene Harris ended speculation on Thursday that she would run as an independent candidate for mayor, saying she didn't want to cause a Democratic Party rift by running against its nominee.
The Spring Hill Democrat changed her voter registration to Independent after the May primary, saying she was positioning herself to run in case Mayor Luke Ravenstahl stepped down.
A federal grand jury has interviewed several people close to Ravenstahl, who decided in March not to run for re-election. Ravenstahl and his attorney have repeatedly said he is not a grand jury target.
Should Ravenstahl leave office, Harris would be first in line to replace him. To do that, however, she would have to relinquish her council seat.
"I was just keeping my options open," Harris, 60, said.
Thursday was the deadline for independent candidates to file nominating papers with the Allegheny County Elections Division for the Nov. 5 election.
Retired businessman Lester Ludwig, 80, of Squirrel Hill was the only independent to file for the mayor's race. He will face Democrat Bill Peduto, 48, of Point Breeze and Republican Josh Wander, 42, of Squirrel Hill.
Two Constitution Party candidates filed to run for Allegheny County Sheriff and Allegheny County Council.
Mike Zitelli of Bridgeville will challenge Sheriff William Mullen, a Democrat. In the council's District 1 race, Jim Barr of West View will face Democrat Daniel A. McClain Jr. and Republican Tom Baker, both of Ross.
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British Isles in August
Where to go ? Love gardens, not fond of cold weather!
I will be in Buxton (north-central England - Peak District somewhat west of Manchester) and ready to leave it in early August 2006 for 6 days before flying back out of Manchester.
I can ride coaches, trains, or or rent a car (from the US).
Not a lot of $ to spend, and a dollar is worth about 1/2 of a pound (ouch!).
Any favorite "must see"s?
Should I go to Wales or Cornwall or save them for a longer trip or different time of year?
Previously I have been in London and south to the Isle of Wight,and on a different trip, across to Oxford (a favorite garden!) and to Bath. Once to Edinborough. Loved every place - what's not to love?!
Any suggestions for this 6 days would be greatly appreciated!
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Here is a link that might be useful: Kew's web-page
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Here is a link that might be useful: Kew's web-page
Maybe your trip is all planned by now, but we went to England in late July and early August and we loved the north coast of Norfolk more than Cornwall or the Cotswolds, especially a town called Cley-next-the-sea and visiting the gardens at East Ruston Old Vicarage. Both have websites, but the garden's website doesn't begin to do it justice. You can see some of my photos of it:
Have a wonderful time!
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Whales may be able to protect their ears by lowering their hearing sensitivity when warned of an imminent loud sound, according to research by Paul Nachtigall, director of the Marine Mammal Research Program at the Hawaiʻi Institute of Marine Biology.
Published earlier this year in the Journal of the Acoustical Society of America, Nachtigall's research with Alexander Ya Supin of the Russian Academy of Sciences is gaining international attention following an article published on July 16 in The New York Times.
"It's equivalent to plugging your ears when a jet flies over," Nachtigall told The New York Times. "It's like a volume control."
Though the team has only tested the warning signals with one false killer whale at the UH Mānoa School of Ocean and Earth Science and Technology facilities on Coconut Island, the findings are promising and could be used in efforts to help prevent hearing loss in marine mammals.
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iTunes TV show size totals don't match actual disk storage
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Q: I'm seeing a really confusing inconsistency in iTunes that I'm hoping you can help explain how to fix as I've been tearing my hair out trying to figure out what's wrong. The problem is that the total storage space that iTunes says it's using for my TV shows is way off when compared to the actual disk space being used, by dozens of gigabytes in fact. At first I thought maybe I had some extra files in my iTunes folders left over from ripping my own DVDs, but I've been through them twice now and can't find any extra stuff in there that isn't already listed in iTunes. I've even gone so far as to add everything up manually in the "size" column in iTunes in case there's a calculation error in iTunes, but it matches what iTunes is showing me at the bottom of the screen. Strangely, this problem only seems to apply to TV shows—movies, music, podcasts, and books all more or less add up correctly (or close enough at least). Any idea how I can find the hidden content on my hard drive that's taking up this extra space?
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A: Since you say this issue is only showing up for your TV shows, it sounds like the problem might be related to how iTunes handles items that are available in your library in multiple SD and HD formats.
The storage sizes shown in iTunes reflect the actual content that is displayed in your iTunes library. The problem is that with TV shows purchased from the iTunes Store, you may have up to three different versions of the same item stored on your hard drive—standard-definition, 720p HD and 1080p HD. For these items, both the individual size and the total at the bottom of the screen will only display the size of the selected version, not the cumulative size of all of the versions that are actually stored on your hard drive.
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If you are concerned that there is extra content laying around in your iTunes Media folder that isn't actually in your iTunes library, one way to deal with this is to simply transfer your library to another directory or hard drive using iTunes' Consolidate feature, as explained in our article on Transferring your iTunes Library. Since the Consolidate feature only copies files that are actually listed in your iTunes library, anything extra will be left behind in the original folder. Although this will take time and disk space, this is one of the more straightforward ways to ensure that your iTunes Media folder contains only those items that are actually listed in your iTunes library.
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President Bush this week is slated to unveil his newest plan to stimulate the economy. Expect more tax cuts. Expect Republicans to support them and Democrats to object. Those are the politics of the situation, but what about reality? Join host Neal Conan and guests to discuss what a government can really do to fix a sluggish economy.
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