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Started by Jupiter123 , Jan 01 2013 10:08 AM
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Posted 01 January 2013 - 10:08 AM
It's been along time since I have had a cat and DD really wants one so we have agreed that she can have a cat or 2 to go with her imaginary kitten grey kitten called girl.
We will be rescuing a kitten/s and they will be inside only cats as I do not want them roaming the neighbourhood.
So what do we need and what don't we need?
Posted 01 January 2013 - 11:13 AM
Fishing rod toys - stick thing with a chasing thing at the end of it you can swish around
Scratching device - some cats like to scratch upwards, some like to scratch across wards.
If you want, you can get harnesses so kitty can come outside with you. Pretty easy to train cats into accepting them.
Nice deep kitty litter tray.
I would personally put the water bowl in the bath, because some cats like to dig their water
Protect high wooden surfaces with doilies unless you like the idea of claw marks - cats like to be up, and unless you're going to be home a lot to squirt them with a water/vinegar mix each time you catch them in an undesirable area, you're better off being proactive
Posted 01 January 2013 - 11:30 AM
A nice comfortable (snug) bed with old towels etc.
An enclosed scratching post
Plenty of toys
Premium cat biscuits (less odour than the cheap supermarket ones)
Some cats like fish better than meat based tinned foods so get both types and look at having a range of brands in order to find out which one your cat likes best..
A large, dark coloured crockery bowl - it keeps the water cooler and there is always plenty of water on hand - replace daily
I found crockery food bowls are better than the plastic ones because after awhile they become stained and scratched which I felt not to be very hygienic.
Have at least four food bowls - If you don't want crockery stainless steel is great too.
With my cats I had a ready supply of biscuits topped up regularly, fresh water daily. They got wet food in the morning and wet food at night.
Cat treats for variety - also talking about variety if you are getting kitten make sure you introduce a wide variety of foods early otherwise you wind up with a very fussy, high maintenance cat
Shop around for vets - I found that my best vet was one that offered payment terms because he cared about the pet rather than the money IYKWIM? I am not saying that payment up front terms means a stingy vet either but that is how I found my awesome vet and he certainly was not the closest!
Cats need yearly shots and a check up is included - from memory it is about $45.00.
Make sure it is regulary wormed
Advantage is the best flea treatment - I never saw a flea also Revolution is good too. Flea rinses are useless and as a vet quipped - they only give the fleas a bath
If you need to bath your cat for one reason or another get a good quality product designed for cats from the vets (dog washes are too strong and you could end up hurting your pet)
Avoid the wormers/flea treatments from the supermarket - they are a waste of money and don't work
Make sure the cat gets plenty of attention - the more handling they get the more friendlier they are.
When you look for a cat get one that likes being handled it is not much point buying a furry ornament that hates contact!
Posted 01 January 2013 - 11:35 AM
Oh and most importantly - Breeders Choice litter tray pellets are FANTASTIC. They are made from recycled paper - they don't smell and you don't need to change the tray every five minutes. They are expensive but the cost evens out in the end.
Clumping cat litter is awful and stinks to high heaven and is a bugger to properly clean out the tray.
Also it may be worth kitting yourself out with a cat toilet tray from the vets which works with special litter. You sieve it I think and you only take away what is being used so nothing is wasted. It is a cost effective way of doing it. Speak to the vet about it. I never got around to getting one only due to my cats advanced age and it wouldn't not have been worth the upfront cost. I used Breeders choice with her.
Posted 01 January 2013 - 11:45 AM
Agree with the above, but didn't see if cat grass was mentioned. A little pot plant of cat grass is a good idea as this helps prevent fur balls (though I can't remember if kittens use it ... more for adult cats). They love chewing on it.
Also, when you go to pick out a cat, don't just go for the prettiest. Go for the one that seems the most relaxed around your DD. Our tabby was certainly not the prettiest cat at the rescue shelter, but she laid down on her back and let DD stroke her tummy. This was a great sign that she was comfortable around children. You don't want a cat that is afraid of you (or afraid of kids) or worse, one that scratches to defend itself even if all you wanted to do was pat her/him.
As for litter, we like Catsan as it absorbs odours really well and lasts for ages but our cat hardly uses it now and prefers to go outside to the garden to do her business. We installed a cat flap and she only ever goes outside for a toilet break, then comes straight back in again!
Holidayromp.... if you're feeding them wet food twice a day, I'm assuming you're only giving them small amounts otherwise they could end up overweight. Our cat only needs one wet meal a day, then has a biscuit bowl and water bowl kept topped up all day.
Posted 01 January 2013 - 12:13 PM
You need a litterbox, and food and water bowls.
I don't have a scratching post but I don't care that much about the sofa (hand-me-down) and the drapes, and we're in a little unit. If I cared more or had more space I would have a scratching/climbing tree, as it is I just try to keep their nails clipped short.
I think we've spent maybe 15 dollars over two years for toys (the swishing featherboa on a stick was a big hit) but that's as much to amuse us as them, they're happy with lengths of string or, their favourite, a powder puff from a makeup set. The laser pointer is good fun though. (We had a laser pointer already).
Cats are cheap to entertain/keep. Spent some on vet bills but not really on "stuff."
EDIT: Forgot a cat carrier, we do have one and it cost about thirty dollars. All respect to PP's but I can't imagine anything we need less than a cat bed. They'd never sleep in it unless it had as much clothes in it as the hamper or unless I joined them in it. And mine don't like being in high places but mine are lazy. They lay on the sofa/bed/floor.
Edited by la di dah, 01 January 2013 - 12:18 PM.
Posted 01 January 2013 - 12:23 PM
Be prepared to experiment with your kitty's preferred litter. Mine likes the Chandlers Clay, as it doesn't stick to her paws.
Crystals have risks if kitty's swallow them, so I try to avoid those.
My cat sleeps on my pillow, but she does have a basket in a sunny spot for daytime napping. She's 20, so does a lot of napping.
Grooming equipment - depending on how furry your kitty is, you might want to invest in something to brush her/him with. Mine is a short hair (Korat), but loves to be groomed with one of those rubber hand held groomer things. I suspect it massages as well as removes hair.
Other than the obvious - cat carrier, bowls, litter box, don't forget to get cat microchipped, and consider a collar with a tag, just in case they manage to escape. Better chance of retrieval that way! Oh, mine has never been outside - ever. She does enjoy looking out the windows though.
Posted 01 January 2013 - 12:26 PM
Our cats prefer Chandler's litter too. It doesn't get spread everywhere either.
Be prepared to spend lots of time just watching the cuteness that kitties are
Posted 01 January 2013 - 12:28 PM
Accept that you now have a new master (or 2) and your position in the social hierarchy has taken a nosedive, makes life much easier
eta: do your best to train your kitty / kitties into liking car trips if you can. It sounds a bit out there but there's nothing quite like the symphony of complaints when they need to be taken to the vet.
Edited by MagsJee, 01 January 2013 - 12:34 PM.
Posted 01 January 2013 - 04:11 PM
Thank you ladies. I will go through and make a list of everything that we will need and when we get back from holidays we will start looking for our new kitty.
Posted 01 January 2013 - 04:19 PM
You can also get a special cat toilet. It's a litter tray that you fit on your toilet bowl and progressively remove inserts until your kitty just poops directly into the bowl and all you have to do is flush. That's an option if you have two toilets when your cat is training.
Posted 01 January 2013 - 04:23 PM
Pet insurance!!
Posted 01 January 2013 - 04:27 PM
QUOTE (~shannon~ @ 01/01/2013, 12:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Holidayromp.... if you're feeding them wet food twice a day, I'm assuming you're only giving them small amounts otherwise they could end up overweight. Our cat only needs one wet meal a day, then has a biscuit bowl and water bowl kept topped up all day.
I had burmese who were grazers. They didn't put on weight and it was the way they had been fed from day dot. It also depends on the cat - if the cat is active you do need to feed twice daily but for a less active cat or one prone to putting on weight I would cut it down to once a day. Only when you get a cat will you know what is food needs are.
Edited: It was only small amounts probably about a heaped dessertspoon full - they don't need any more than that especially when they have the dry food there.
I found that regular feeding encourages grazing otherwise they would gorge. but then again some cats are natural guts.
Edited by Holidayromp, 01 January 2013 - 04:30 PM.
Posted 01 January 2013 - 04:50 PM
QUOTE (ubermum @ 01/01/2013, 05:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You can also get a special cat toilet. It's a litter tray that you fit on your toilet bowl and progressively remove inserts until your kitty just poops directly into the bowl and all you have to do is flush. That's an option if you have two toilets when your cat is training.
It doesn't work for some cats though, we've tried!
We were using the special cat loo with the sieve tray, but found with all 5 cats that it was starting to smell really quickly despite it not being a problem 12 months ago! So we changed to breeders choice and we find it MUCH better for our cats. It masks the smell of a poo much better so our cats are happy to do multiple poos in 1 tray.
Don't buy expensive cat beds, but a cheap one online and see if your cat uses it. Ours don't use them in summer, so I've packed them up. They do get more use in winter. We have a large cat tree, but make sure it's relatively sturdy because the kittens will chase each other UP the tree.
With our cats, we have food available all the time because we have 2 cats that were pound cats before being in the rescue and if we put a little bit of food out they scoff and then vomit.
Be prepared for cat vomit. Not that it's gross, just that they vomit, and it doesn't necessarily mean they are sick. Ours vomit if they eat too fast for example.
Best cat toys: an empty box, a hair band, ping pong balls etc You will get to know what your cats like. Ours love things with bells and empty boxes or bags.
Also you will need to trim their nails. You can just use normal human nail trimmers, but get them used to it from when they are little and then it's less hassle. Ours are happy to lie on their backs and get their nails trimmed.
Cats can be fussy they know what they like, you just need to figure out what that is hehehe E.g. we have 1 cat that will not eat raw meat. We have another that just licks the gravy off tinned food. WE have another that loves bread. They all like cheese, but most cats are lactose intolerant, so avoid giving them too much. Actually I bought cheese flavoured cat treats from Woolies and they all love them.
Posted 01 January 2013 - 06:58 PM
OP, where are you ? I have a litter of rescues and Mum here at the moment...... I'd love an EB home !
Posted 01 January 2013 - 07:10 PM
QUOTE (mewsings @ 01/01/2013, 07:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
OP, where are you ? I have a litter of rescues and Mum here at the moment...... I'd love an EB home !
We live in Toowoomba and regularly drive down to Brisbane.
Posted 01 January 2013 - 07:17 PM
Reading thread with interest as we are planning to adopt a kitty soon too
Posted 01 January 2013 - 08:53 PM
I'd recommend pet insurance! We will certainly be getting it once we settle in our new house for our young cat, and for a puppy when we buy one. It is when the unexpected vet bill comes along! We've spent nearly $1000 in the last few weeks as said cat somehow injured his paw and ended up having first glue then having surgery to fix it - and finally stitches out tomorrow. Very expensive paw!!
Posted 02 January 2013 - 01:48 AM
QUOTE (la di dah @ 01/01/2013, 12:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
EDIT: Forgot a cat carrier, we do have one and it cost about thirty dollars. All respect to PP's but I can't imagine anything we need less than a cat bed. They'd never sleep in it unless it had as much clothes in it as the hamper or unless I joined them in it. And mine don't like being in high places but mine are lazy. They lay on the sofa/bed/floor.
Agree! I've had cats my whole life and none of them have liked a cat bed. They sleep where THEY want to sleep (see next comment below...)
QUOTE (MagsJee @ 01/01/2013, 12:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Accept that you now have a new master (or 2) and your position in the social hierarchy has taken a nosedive, makes life much easier
eta: do your best to train your kitty / kitties into liking car trips if you can. It sounds a bit out there but there's nothing quite like the symphony of complaints when they need to be taken to the vet.
Cats rule their masters, don't you know. And I agree with getting them used to the car. My mum's cat howls like there is no tomorrow when she is in the car - even before it is turned on!
QUOTE (PussyDids @ 01/01/2013, 04:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Also you will need to trim their nails. You can just use normal human nail trimmers, but get them used to it from when they are little and then it's less hassle. Ours are happy to lie on their backs and get their nails trimmed.
Never trimmed a cat's nails in my life and certainly not about to start. That's what the scratch post is for.
Holidayromp... you're so right. If I fed my cat twice a day, she'd get really fat. She doesn't gorge her food, but my Mum's cat does and quite often has a vomit surprise in the morning. My friend's cat is incredibly clever and knows how to open the fridge, cupboards and rubbish bin in search of food!
Posted 02 January 2013 - 04:16 AM
When you get the cat(s) home, give them a day or so to settle in in one area then gradually let them expand to the whole house.
You don't say how old DD is but with littlies it's good if the cat can have a kid-free area to retreat to, where they won't be bothered when they have had enough.
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EARL DETWILER Earl S. Detwiler, 86, of Lansdale, passed from his earthly life February 23, 2013 to join his wife Betty (Scott) Detwiler. Born May 15, 1926 in Harleysville, he was one of 13 children born to Jacob and Lizzie (Swartley) Detwiler. Earl married Betty in 1948, and the couple celebrated 55 years of marriage before Betty's passing in 2003. Together, they made their home in Lansdale. Mr. Detwiler was an honored veteran who served in the US
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in both the European and Pacific Theaters. After returning home, he was employed with BF Goodrich, Oaks, as a machinist until his retirement in the 1980s. Earl and Betty enjoyed their retirement by spending time with family and friends they met in various senior groups and bus travels. Earl will be especially missed by his granddaughter, Jane Ashton and her husband, Jim, of Lansdale; great-grandson, Brian Ashton and his wife, Nicole, of Georgia; and his great-great-granddaughter, Morgan; his sister, Pearl Detweiler and her husband, Wilmer, of Emmaus; and several nieces and nephews. Earl also leaves behind his loving friend and companion, Betty Landis of Telford. He will also be missed by Logan, Spencer, and Garrett Knauss and their parents, Lisa and Dean, of Audubon, who were very dear to his heart. In addition to his wife and parents, he was preceded in death by his step-daughter, Ann Minarick; step-son-in-law, Al Minarick; and 11 of his siblings. Relatives and friends may call after 10AM Thursday, February 28 at Christ Lutheran Church, 2211 Mainland Rd., Kulpsville, followed by the Funeral Service at 11AM. Burial will be in Greenlawn Cemetery, North Wales. Arrangements are by Huff & Lakjer Funeral Home, Lansdale. Earl's granddaughter, Jane, would like to thank the nurses, therapists, and aides at Elm Terrace Gardens for all their loving care, compassion, and support while he made his home there. If you would like to make a donation in Earl's memory, please consider the Wounded Warrior Project, P.O. Box 758517, Topeka, KS 66675.
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Root cellars & Food Storage
The posts about root cellars are very old. Maybe it is time for a new discussion. I would like to hear from anyone that has SUCCESSFULLY tried preserving fresh foods this way.
I am reading "Root Cellaring: Natural Cold Storage of Fruits & Vegetables" by Mike & Nancy Bubel, and that will be my guide.
We have a 150-year old house with a large concrete box in the basement. The bottom of the box is dirt. I suspect this was a root cellar at one time. I believe we would need to put some fresh sand in the bottom, mouse-proof it with some hardware cloth, and cover the box with an insulated lid. Does the food need to be packed in sand also?
I have also read "Root Cellaring." If I had a basement, I would have a root cellar as we speak, but my 70 year old house is on a crawl space that I can't get into during the winter. I have considered a clamp on the north side of the house during the winter, but so far haven't done it.
What I have done is plant a winter garden on the south side of the house in July and August, bury it with about a foot of pine straw in November, cover with a low tunnel at Thanksgiving, and pull root crops and kale from the garden all winter. Oh, and in the fall before first frost I pull the tomato plants and hang them in my pantry. Then I pick tomatoes as they ripen until after Thanksgiving. In fact, I had a few at Christmas last year with that simple treatment. My fall and winter harvesting techniques are working so well that a root cellar is no longer that important to us.
Wow wish they had put in a nice box like that in my basement
I heard you should pack carrots in sand
In my basment it stays 45-60 depending on outside temp and I still have lots of onions hanging from the ceiling pumpkins near the floor and potatoes and good in april as the day they went in there
We find it more convenient to put different root crops in huge tree-size nursery pots, I suppose any plastic bin would do. Fresh peat moss or potting soil works well in place of sand, and weighs a lot less. Store in a cool place, they do just fine. We use an an attached, insulated store room that gets down to around 40º in the coldest part of winter. It also holds all the canning.
I dunno if you have to do it, but we pour a qt of water now and again on top the bins. But we live in a very dry climate.
By this time of year, everything is sprouting - carrots, beets, potatoes, but there really isn't much left.
Hi, Zuni
My pantry is a formerly unheated enclosed back porch. My washer is there now, so I have to keep it above freezing all winter, but actually I'd say it is about 50-60 F most of the time. I've also hung cherry toms in the kitchen, where they ripen nicely, so I don't think the cool temp of the pantry is really necessary.
I have used this technique with Long Keeper tomatoes (http://store.tomatofest.com/Long_Keeper_Tomato_Seeds_p/tf-0294.htm), but I had a much better tasting one called Amber Colored that kept just about as long, so that is my choice these days.
Hanging the tomato plants from the roots is a technique my mom learned from an old farm neighbor years ago. These days I trim all of the leaves off the plants before I bring them in so they don't shed all over my laundry room. It doesn't seem to affect the ripening/keeping quality.
Here is a link that might be useful: Amber Colored Tomato
Growing up my parents had a "fruit cellar" in the basement, small room where all canned goods were stored plus carrots in baskets of sand, potatoes, green tomatoes wrapped in newspaper. This room had a door and one tiny window so it could be opened but usually wasn't in the winter. I would say that room stayed a lot cooler than the rest of the basement, above freezing but cool enough to keep the vegetables through the winter. Just memories of a child but it seemed to work fine.
I forgot that I'd put some pots under the plexiglass cover of an exit window from the basement. I went to put a seed tray out there, and discovered that three of the five pots had thriving plants. This was a pleasant surprise after a particularly nasty Wisconsin winter. I looked over some of the root cellar discussion on this site, and am wondering if this window well would serve as a root cellar or tomato pot storage, per the discussion on this forum from last spring. Nobody is using the basement room as a bedroom and the exit is of secondary importance now. It has three steps up, and is on the south side of the house.


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If you haven't yet, check out Reason's coverage of a civil case involving a Kansas City cop who claims he shot a suspect because the suspect was armed and dangerous. Of course, the eyewitnesses disagree with the account. Two women who witnessed the shooting claim the suspect had his hands up and was getting on his knees when he was shot at point-blank range. More here.
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The dumb fucker shouldn't of ran and fought the police. He has an arrest record a mile long. Boo hoo his mother started crying. Maybe if she raised him better she wouldn't have a dead son. He was either going to be killed by the PD or his criminal activities. Of course the dumb fuck who wrote this bullshit takes the story off of an activist run website. Dumb fuckers.
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By your logic anyone can and should be shot illegally by police. After all, we will all one day die. A surrendering suspect needs protection from the thugs that pretend to serve us.
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Miller's mum is obviously a whore to have raised such a pathetic specimen for a human being. She is a whore and even so she is still ashamed of her son, you! How embarrassing, a whore ashamed of her own son lol, she treated you like scum, you were without a doubt bullied at school and have been most of your pathetic life… Your funny though somehow even though you come across as a desperately indoctrinated fool but I like you lol…
This cop should be in prison simple as, he has blatantly lied about what happened, he acted as judge, jury and executioner… The sad thing is and what funny boy doesn't obviously get is even though he has got away with murder, that fool is cheering him on and yet the money that will be paid out to the family is out of all our pockets… Woohoo what an idiot you are funny boy…
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wow, d0nj3nko – did you come up with that all by yourself? You use my material because you aren't fucking creative enough to come up with your own stuff. I fuck your $2 whore mom and your $3 whore sister all the time. I enjoy pissing on your grandparent's graves. They tell me you are still jamming gerbils as usual. Your mom is tired of washing gerbil hair out of your shorts. Your sister is tired of you molesting her and then saying she has ghosts in her clothes. You are really a sad piece of shit. cunt
- certain
Really slaps? And with all that vaginal traffic, you still have no problem getting up in there "all the time", huh? And since he molests his sister, then you're getting his sloppy seconds, right? So when you kiss her, is it salty tasting? Just wondering…
- Adam Miller
certain – You molest your mother and she is out whoring around every single night. What does she taste like? She tells me you taste like gerbil feces. You obviously don't know your ass from the shit you spew out of your mouth. How sad
- certain
Hey, you're the one claiming to bone whores all the time. Between them and the goats, I'm surprised you haven't caught some kind of weird STD.
- steve
there is really one chicken fucker on this site. he will never give up and i would really like to punch his moth shut.
- Bea
It doesn't matter what we think of the mother or the son. A human being is a human being and has innailible rights. If a cop shot a man who was no longer a threat then they committed murder.
- Adam Miller
Oh wow, steve is talking about violence again. What does it mean "to punch his moth shut"? You are a fucking pussy liar asshole. Spare everyone the violent bullshit. Remember, you work with firearms liar.
Certain – The only whores I'm boning are your mother and your sister. If I were to catch an STD it would be because of you not using protection when you fuck your mom and your sister or should I say molest your mom and your sister. You also leave to many bruises when you forcibly hold them down. Please stop hurting your sister and your mom. They are related to you.
- steve
adam miller is not your real name
- Unjustified
According to the article I read… "The police officer says he tried to pull the car Davis was in over for driving erratically (the car was stolen and Davis was a passenger according to court records) but it instead sped away, with Davis jumping out to flee on foot."
Witnesses said… "They claim Davis had his hands up and was getting on his knees when he was shot at point-blank range."
The article also stated…. "There were apparently 20 police officers and a helicopter chasing Davis by the end."
So… what happened to the driver? Did the cops continue to pursue the car?
- Tk4usa
wow !!!!!!!! reading these responces lets me know just how stupid this country has become. To see how all of you go after each other because of differing opinions just blows my minds. The issue here is how the police have become corrupt and how they act twords all of us. This country is getting exactly what it deserves, we are so fucked because of the lack of morals, empathy and a trashed constitution.
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Adam Miller calling someone a "sad piece of shit"? Funny. All the while he is shooting off at the mouth like a fourth grader with a traumatic brain injury. Some people are just wastes of life.
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Actually, I used to think the same thing until I read 'the public duty doctrine'.
Research it. They don't serve us or even required to protect us.
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The jury ruled in favor of the police, 9-3.
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The jury was right to rule in favor of the officer. The case was air tight for the officer. Of course these fucking activsts will make up fucking lies about the jury but it was a jury of his peers who found him not guilty and threw out the suit. I love the fact that these fucking worthless activists think they knew everything about this fucking case and they were fucking wrong as usual.
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The high-interest short-term "payday" lender Peachy.co.uk is looking for agencies to handle its advertising and media accounts.
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Peachy, which is owned by Cash on Go, has not previously had retained agencies.
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