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For those of you who use Peat how do you go about adding water and then squeezing it out? I have the good Canadian stuff that most people suggest. I want to start testing it to see if I like it on a small number of worms. Only thing is that I don't know how much water to put in it, how to mix it, and how to squeeze it out on a larger scale.
Thanks for the help.
I assume that the moisture required for peat would be the same as any other bedding. I have a question for others here as to whether or not there is any benefit in using peat as worm bedding over any other type of bedding. If there is no quantifiable benefit using peat over other forms of bedding I'm not sure why we'd advocate the use of a non-renewable resource.
I know that the "Good Canadian Stuff" you're referring to is harvested in a manner by which a very small percentage of the total peat available in Canada is taken and not further harvested any faster than it is produced. So they're not really reproducing it, just not harvesting a large percentage of it ... Canada has quite a large land mass vs the population.
I'd class this under Sustainable Harvesting Practices and not really a renewable resource (5 to 10 years to generate new growth). Knowing that, I'd like to hear if the VC produced from Sphagnum Moss has any benefit above VC produced from some other medium before I'd consider using it for worms to chew on.
I currently use newspaper, but I soak it then I wring it out the strips with a rolling pin, I am wondering how i will ever keep up if I were to expand, with newspaper. It seemed people say peat is easier to use and easier to obtain but I am starting to think it is a pain to use.
I find corrugated cardboard to make great bedding. It's great for absorbing excess moisture. It helps keep the bedding from compacting. I often find worms crawling inside it as it starts to break down. I'm also planning to take my yard vac this fall and suck up as many leaves from the neighborhood and nearby parks as the wife will let me store in the garage. My kids keep hermit crabs and they use coir for their bedding. When it's time to change out the bedding I have access to a lot of it for the worm bin, currently more than my existing worm bin can handle, time to start up another I think.
I've read of people who keep rabbits and use the poop as bedding. I've seen posts by people using wood stove pellets as well. Some use dried grass clippings from the lawn but I prefer to use my mulching mower and leave it there. There are a lot of options.
One thing you might try is local clubs or hobbyist websites. For example, a lot of reptiles are kept in coir bedding. If there is a local reptile hobbyist group maybe you can offer to dispose of used coir. Offer to rake up a neighbor's leaves in the fall and haul the leaves away for them. Think of local groups that waste something, chances are a lot of them are throwing that in the garbage.
If you're looking at expansion you should probably make a list of the multiple types of bedding in your area. Then work on how you'd acquire them in quantity, what it might cost you, storage, etc.
Any store has cardboard. My source for cardboard is the super market. You can take your pick there.
If I happen to drive by a neighbourhood on garbage day, I take out their cereal boxes out of the recycling.
You can do that with newspaper too, I just happen to have enough newspaper myself.
Hi bower4311; I'll give the answer your looking for. Peat moss is good for short term bedding for worms used for shipment commercially. In the long term peat moss gets a pateina over the water holding cell creveses/voids and that makes it feel damp but the water does not take up oxygen as well and with that being the case the oxygen available to the worms is much less. So using it for bedding is not the best thing you can use. Coir is a better choice if you want to spend money on bedding for composting worms. If you are keeping non composting worms long term (months/years) then Buss-Bedding is the best bedding. Paper and cardboard if free bedding is the goal works well for bedding of composting worms. Leaves and dried then dampened grass works well as free bedding for non composting worms. I personally have tried all of this material in trial and error testing and found the results given above will sustain and grow worm squirms as beddings of choice. I use all free things and even mix the beddings up as a change for the worms as variety.
Thanks, I noticed that newspaper is a lot easier to use. I use all newspaper, I soak it for 24 hours, I add little water and everything stays very moist. I used the peat a little bit in expirements in a couple cups as bait and it seemed to do its job but I think I will like newspaper better.
Sorry bower4311.
How much peat do you want to use initially?
**......on a small number of worms.**
and then you wrote: **...., how to squeeze it out on a larger scale". How much is a larger scale?
Here is what I did before I knew coco coir.
I take one - 6 gal. bucket and shuffeled peat into it. If I wanted more, I stomped on it a bit and added more peat and pour hot water (from the tap)in the bucket. You will know when to stop. Take a shuffel or compost aerator to make sure all got wet. With water added to it, the peat will compact (the level went down) and you can add more peat if you need more, then add more hot water as needed. Peat will soak up hot water faster than cold, and IIRC I've got that info from the packaging.
I have read a post from somebody who used peat for bedding and he/she soaked it overnight to get rid of whatever acidity is in the peat. Some don't, so up to you how you want to do it.
If you want to soak and rinse the acidity out, let the peat SIT in water overnight. Either way, it is best to leave it overnight to make sure it has expanded to its max., or at least several hours if you are not going to "rinse" it.
Then I'd take a 2nd. bucket (identical to the first, put that on top of the soaked peat, put my eight on it and get rid of most of the water. If it is still too wet, then I'd use the 10 fingers method. With or w/o gloves, depending how sensitive your skin is.
For quantities more than bucket-wise, sorry mate, can't help you there. Maybe some one else has a suggestion.
Hope that helps.
I use coir only if I have moisture problems. Then I use DRY coire, crumbled and sprinkled over the too wet aerea. Coir soaks up moisture faster than paper or cardboard and will give a nice texture to the finished VC.
For day to day bedding I use shredded white office paper, newspaper and cardboard.
bower4311 - lawn mower + paper / cardboard. Problem solved.
why bother with peat? it's no better then newspaper, it costs more, it's not recycling and it's very acidic. may not be a problem for your worms but i think ph neutral compost would be better for most plants.
I find that torn up thin, light cardboard (cereal boxes, TP rolls, etc) make great bedding. They soak up moisture and disappear very quickly. I just collect them and tear them up while someone else is driving or while watching TV or if a long-winded person phones. They are more fluffy than newspaper, and the worms move around in them easily.
I don't bother with newspaper and peat.
Hi folks,
IIUC, bower4311 already HAS the peat. Let the good person use it up if he/she wants to. It was not mentioned he/she is going to buy more in future. I am sure all the good intended advice is much appreciated. This forum is full of good info (most of the time).
I myself have 1/3 bale of peat leftover from planting my Rhododendrons and Azaleas, and it has been sitting for over a year now. So what now, throw it out? Certainly not! Re-cycle, re-use, re-claim, re-whatever.
Back to wetting the peat, if you are not planning to rinse it, just add enough water and you might save yourself the trouble of squeezing. If it's too wet, don't add peat just yet. Remember, it will keep expanding and soaking up the water.
The bottom of the bucket will have the soggy peat so use the top part first before you add more dry peat to the bucket.
If you do use peat as worm bin bedding, make sure you add fine ground egg shells every now and then.
I currently use newspaper, its easy and holds water for a very long time, I only sprinkle water when I add my oatmeal powder to the top. I bought the peat because it was cheap and I just wanted to experiment with it. Now that I see how difficult it is to use I most likely will not buy more. Though I heard it is the best thing to ship them in, so I might keep it for the future for that. I like newspaper a lot, I found a pretty good way of soaking and wringing it out that works good, plus the worms can live on the newspaper, not the peat.


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As I watched people pour into the Yard House in Irvine on a Friday night, I realized founder Steele Platt might have some advice that you could use.
Steele started with one restaurant in Long Beach 11 years ago. He now has 17 across the county. He recently sold a majority share to a private equity firm for upwards of $100 million. When he opened the first one he was in a bad place: he had filed for bankruptcy, and was broke and desperate. But he had an idea, and found a way to make a success out of it.
I asked Steele what advice he had for young entrepreneurs and here's what I distilled from our conversation.
If you mess up here, you'll pay for it down the line. You can't have too many alpha dogs. You need a diversity of skills among the partners. If there's too much overlap it creates problems. Steele's first few partners didn't work out but he now has two strong partners who have worked with him for years.
You may be starting small, but someday you could be big and buying out a partner will be very expensive. If you don't have clear buyout options, those partners could take a big chunk of the company later.
When Steele started Yard House, he was vulnerable because he was broke. He should have had the original investors invest in a single restaurant instead of the company as a whole. "If you came up the idea, it's good to protect that idea...Even if you are in a vulnerable position, give yourself more credit and structure it the right way." If he would have done that, he would have owned more of the company down the line.
Be aggressive, and take risks. For example, Steele and his team took a risk opening a Yard House in Kansas City but that proved the concept had legs across the U.S., which helped them get a good price when they sold.
People can get complacent and think they are successful. That's when they start missing details and stop taking the pulse of the business. "The minute they do that, that's when things start going bad," Steele said. "You've got to think, 'Today's the fist day of the rest of the business.' "
Here's a quick update on the Fashion Island Yard House, which opened in September. It's the fourth busiest in the chain and hasn't cannibalized sales at the Irvine or Costa Mesa restaurants. Steele said lots of people are coming in and saying they've never been to a Yard House before. "It just legitimizes the Newport Beach bubble," he said, meaning if you live in Newport, you're not traveling to neighboring cities to go out.


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When it comes to markets, timing is everything. And we picked a great time to launch an emerging-markets column.
Since the first column, "Safety in Unlikely Places," ran on August 6, the MSCI Emerging Markets index has gained 8.9%, after a lackluster 4.5% from the beginning of the year through that point. Even better, after lagging the Standard & Poor's 500 by 6.2 percentage points this year through Aug. 6, emerging-market stocks have outperformed by 5.1 percentage points since then. We didn't nail the bottom, but then again, few investors do.
So we know that the last four-plus months have been good for emerging markets, but how good were our calls? It turns out, pretty good, though none of them were meant to be such short-term calls. In that first column, we told investors to look outside the big four of China, Russia, India and Brazil to less-traveled developing nations, including the Philippines, Turkey, and Peru. Those markets outperformed the MSCI Emerging Markets Index's 8.9% gain by an average of 5.8 percentage points since our call.
Of our three stock picks in that column, two—Manila Water (ticker: MWC.Philippines) and Alicorp (ALICORC1.Peru)—gained more than 19%, though our third choice, Mitra Adiperkasa (MAPI.Indonesia) dropped 10%. Together, though, they outperformed the MSCI Emerging Markets by 2.5 percentage points. Not bad for a neophyte.
In September, we went traveling. We visited Mexico on Sept. 10—the iShares MSCI Mexico Investable Market Index eww 0.362381363244176% iShares MSCI Mexico Capped ETF U.S.: NYSE Arca 58.16 0.21 0.362381363244176% /Date(1427490000175-0500)/ Volume (Delayed 15m) : 2055496 AFTER HOURS 58.16 % Volume (Delayed 15m) : 516 P/E Ratio N/A Market Cap N/A Dividend Yield 1.7600722145804677% Rev. per Employee N/A More quote details and news » exchange-traded fund (EWW) has gained 11.6% since then, handily outpacing the MSCI—but then our trip took a turn for the worse. We touched down in Africa on Sept. 16, and our fund recommendation, Nile Pan Africa (NAFAX), is essentially flat, with a 0.3% return since then—despite being up 38% for the year. Next we were off to Brazil to check out the infrastructure investments (a theme that has a few years left to run, with the Olympics coming in 2016)—and the EGShares Brazil Infrastructure BRXX -3.1049167634533488% EGShares Brazil Infrastructure ETF U.S.: NYSE Arca 8.7598 -0.2807 -3.1049167634533488% /Date(1427487832609-0500)/ Volume (Delayed 15m) : 2746 P/E Ratio N/A Market Cap N/A Dividend Yield 9.226580515536885% Rev. per Employee N/A More quote details and news » ETF (BRXX) is down 0.6%, including reinvested dividends, since our recommendation. We finished off our travels with a visit to India on Oct.1. The Matthews India Investor fund (MINDX), our recommendation, had run up 14% in September, but has just eked out a 0.3% return since then.
WE HAD SOME NOTABLE SUCCESSES: On August 20, we recommended three emerging-market banks, which we figured were in much better shape than their American cousins. India's HDFC Bank HDB -0.10398613518197573% HDFC Bank Ltd. ADS U.S.: NYSE USD57.64 -0.06 -0.10398613518197573% /Date(1427490260204-0500)/ Volume (Delayed 15m) : 567940 AFTER HOURS USD57.7451 0.1051 0.18233865371269953% Volume (Delayed 15m) : 25100 P/E Ratio N/A Market Cap 40657200392.7535 Dividend Yield 0.5918997224149896% Rev. per Employee 122995 More quote details and news » (HDB) has since gained 18%, Peru's Credicorp BAP 2.2811161966632216% Credicorp Ltd. U.S.: NYSE USD138.55 3.09 2.2811161966632216% /Date(1427490044358-0500)/ Volume (Delayed 15m) : 354653 AFTER HOURS USD138.55 % Volume (Delayed 15m) : 9317 P/E Ratio 13.374455802998272 Market Cap 11050748539.3829 Dividend Yield 1.5787080476362325% Rev. per Employee N/A More quote details and news » (BAP) surged 24% and Banco Bradesco (BBDC3.Brazil) gained 5.2%. That averages 15.7% and trumps not only the iShares MSCI Emerging Market Index EEM 0.2795425667090216% iShares MSCI Emerging Markets ETF U.S.: NYSE Arca 39.46 0.11 0.2795425667090216% /Date(1427490000179-0500)/ Volume (Delayed 15m) : 38478333 AFTER HOURS 39.46 % Volume (Delayed 15m) : 3733626 P/E Ratio N/A Market Cap N/A Dividend Yield 2.7117131272174353% Rev. per Employee N/A More quote details and news » ETF's (EEM) 8.8% return, but the 10.8% return from the Financial Select Sector SPDR XLF -0.12520868113522537% Select Sector SPDR-Financial U.S.: NYSE Arca 23.93 -0.03 -0.12520868113522537% /Date(1427490000252-0500)/ Volume (Delayed 15m) : 24241377 AFTER HOURS 23.93 % Volume (Delayed 15m) : 254370 P/E Ratio N/A Market Cap N/A Dividend Yield 1.5164229001253657% Rev. per Employee N/A More quote details and news » (XLF), which owns U.S. banks.
Our August endorsement of emerging-market dividend payers requires a bit more patience, as they've suffered in part as investors have opted for riskier fare. We were undone, however, by our recommendation to buy Brazilian utility Companhia Paranaense de Energia, ELP 0.0979431929480901% Companhia Paranaense de Energia-COPEL ADS U.S.: NYSE USD10.22 0.01 0.0979431929480901% /Date(1427490063132-0500)/ Volume (Delayed 15m) : 663091 AFTER HOURS USD10.1726 -0.0474 -0.4637964774951076% Volume (Delayed 15m) : 9800 P/E Ratio 5.603377378145732 Market Cap 2326484896.93999 Dividend Yield N/A Rev. per Employee 670994 More quote details and news » or Copel (ELP). But when Brazil forced utilities to charge less for electricity, Copel got hammered, and has since lost 29%. (Notice a theme? Brazil has cost us—and others—plenty this year.)
Overall, though, we nailed the big themes, from the outperformance of Turkey and the Philippines to the resurgence of the world's banking stocks. Expect 2013 to offer more opportunities—and challenges—as growth looks set to pick up and investors go chasing returns. It should be fun.
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The present invention is a method and apparatus for quickly, reliably, and inexpensively evacuating air from ordinary re-sealable plastic bags without employing special adapters to interface with vacuum pumps. The system consists of a vacuum pump, an outer re-sealable plastic bag that acts as a flexible vacuum chamber, a vacuum tray that fits inside the outer plastic bag and prevents the outer bag from collapsing onto the vacuum port. Users operate the system by inserting the re-sealable bag to be evacuated inside the outer plastic bag until the seal of the inner bag is in the proper sealing position inside the vacuum tray. The user then seals the outer bag, turns on the vacuum pump and allows the vacuum process to run to completion, during which the re-sealable inner bag is automatically sealed by the device. The user then opens the outer plastic bag and removes the vacuum-packed inner bag.
1. A method for evacuating air from a re-sealable plastic bag possessing an integral mechanical seal, and requiring on no other means for closing the bag, by,
inserting the re-sealable flexible bag, partially opened, entirely inside a larger outer re-sealable flexible bag that constitutes a vacuum chamber having flexible walls, and a re-sealable mechanical seal,
closing the re-sealable mechanical seal of the larger outer re-sealable flexible bag,
evacuating the air inside the outer re-sealable flexible bag prior to closing the inner re-sealable flexible bag,
automatically closing the mechanical seal of the inner re-sealable flexible bag by using atmospheric pressure transmitted through the flexible walls of the outer re-sealable flexible bag, onto the mechanical seal of the inner re-sealable bag, prior to removing the vacuum.
2. Apparatus for evacuating air from an inner re-sealable flexible bag possessing an integral mechanical seal, and requiring on no other means for closing the bag, comprising,
a second, outer re-sealable flexible bag, possessing an integral mechanical seal, and which is larger than the inner re-sealable flexible bag, and which constitutes a flexible-walled vacuum chamber, into which the inner re-sealable flexible bag is inserted,
a vacuum pump that draws a vacuum on the outer re-sealable flexible bag,
a vacuum tray having a bottom surface surrounded by vertical walls, and a vacuum port disposed on one of the vertical walls, arranged so as to prevent the outer re-sealable flexible bag from blocking the vacuum port, wherein said vacuum tray further includes mechanisms that facilitate automatically closing the inner re-sealable flexible bag after the desired vacuum level has been reached, and while the inner re-sealable flexible bag is still inside the outer re-sealable flexible bag, and the mechanical seal on the outer re-sealable flexible bag is still closed.
This is a Continuation-in-Part (CIP) of prior application Ser. No. 12/322,290 with filing date Feb. 2, 2009 now abandoned; and Art Unit 3721; Examiner TRUOHG, THANH K; and Confirmation No. 5326; that replaces the prior application in its entirety.
This invention relates to evacuating air from ordinary re-sealable plastic bags without modifying the bags to mate with vacuum apparatus. More particularly, this invention relates to enclosing re-sealable bags in a larger re-sealable plastic bag that is married to a vacuum pump that simultaneously evacuates air from both the inner and outer re-sealable bags. This system allows users to vacuum pack food and other items in ordinary re-sealable plastic bags, without incurring the costs of more expensive special re-sealable plastic bags that have been modified to mate with vacuum apparatus. In addition, this system affords users more space inside the re-sealable bags since none of the bags' internal space is taken up by vacuum ports or other features that enable interfacing with external vacuum apparatus.
Re-sealable plastic bags are widely used to preserve food. Such bags are referred to as �re-sealable plastic bags� and typically have a mating male rib or bead and female channel extending along the opening of the bag that form an airtight closure when pressed together along the length of the bag seal. Naito, U.S. Pat. No. RE 28,969 discloses an example of an airtight profile closure used in the ZIPLOC� storage bag. The airtight closure is typically formed as an integral part of the bag and allows products stored in the bag to be easily removed and re-stored.
Re-sealable plastic bags help preserve food by limiting the amount of oxidizing air to which the food is exposed. However, since ordinary re-sealable bags expose the food inside to the air entrapped in the bags, it is desirable to evacuate or vacuum seal the bag. In sealing such re-sealable bags, users typically manually squeeze air from the bag while simultaneously closing the opening. Unfortunately, some air remains in the bag, and air can re-enter and become trapped in the bag during the initial sealing or re-sealing process.
Others have attempted to overcome problems associated with manually sealing re-sealable bags by modifying the closure, providing specially designed bags, or providing bag attachments for evacuating the bag.
Kugler, U.S. Pat. No. 3,339,606 discloses a tongue and grove profile closure wherein the tongue thickness is less than the width of the groove, and a releasable pressure sensitive adhesive is provided to keep the tongue within the groove. Adhesives, however, are difficult to apply, and may cause undesirable problems by sticking to other bags or surfaces.
Goto et al, U.S. Pat. No. 5,701,996 discloses a specially designed snap-fastener bag having an air evacuation passage along a bottom-seal and a conventional snap fastener along the bag opening. The air evacuation passage has an opening through one side of the bag and a sticky substance is disposed in the passageway to adhere the top and bottom surfaces of the plastic film of the bag after manually evacuating the bag.
Cox, U.S. Pat. No. 5,544,752, and Lambert, U.S. Pat. No. 6,085,906 disclose specially constructed vacuum storage bags having an integrally formed flexible conduit directed through the bag and into the interior of the bag, and sealing strips positioned within or on the exterior of the conduit so that pressure applied to an exterior of the conduit will cause the conduit to collapse and engage the conduit sealing strips and prevent fluid flow through the conduit.
Tretina, U.S. Pat. No. 7,389,629 discloses a portable, hand-operated vacuum pump designed to interface with re-sealable plastic bags that incorporate a simple one-way vacuum value. The disadvantages of this approach are that the system requires users to purchase special re-sealable bags, and the said vacuum valves reduces the amount of available storage volume inside the bags.
Kaufman, U.S. Pat. No. 4,018,253 discloses a vacuum device for freezer bags which includes a hollow retainer member designed to mate with the open end of the bag, and a cap member designed to make an airtight connection with the outside surface of the retainer. A flexible tube extends downwardly through the bottom end of the cap member and upwardly above the cap member, and a valve is provided on the upward part of the tube. The open end of the bag is inserted through the hollow retainer and draped over the top end of the retainer, and the cap is mounted over the top surface of the retainer and the open end of the bag in airtight manner so that the tube passage makes an airtight connection with the interior of the bag. Air is withdrawn from the container through the tube, and the valve on the tube is then closed to close the tube passage.
Others have attempted to overcome problems associated with manually sealing conventional re-sealable bags by providing nozzle attachments that are connected to a household vacuum cleaner hose for evacuating the bag. Such systems require users to handle bulky vacuum cleaners to perform a simple kitchen task.
Brown, U.S. Pat. No. 6,763,857 discloses a vacuum attachment for use with a vacuum hose and a vacuum device, and a conventional plastic food storage bag. The vacuum attachment has one hollow attachment for joining the vacuum attachment to the vacuum hose, and a cylindrical member for inserting the vacuum attachment into the bag. The vacuum attachment may also have an air flow blocker for blocking the air flow between the bag and the vacuum attachment. The air flow blocker is a hollow cylindrical cap with a closed end, and may be equipped with an opening or a filter.
Smith, U.S. Pat. No. 5,873,217 discloses a vacuum sealing method and nozzle adaptor apparatus for sealing a container such as a zipper-type plastic bag. The nozzle adapter has an elongated nozzle end for insertion into the container or bag and a larger vacuum hose for connecting to an existing vacuum source such as household vacuum cleaner. The elongate end of the nozzle is placed in the bag, the bag is sealed as completely as possible around the nozzle, and the vacuum source is turned on. After the air is withdrawn from the bag, the nozzle is quickly removed from the bag and the open portion of the zipper-type seal is quickly engaged before a substantial amount of air can return into the bag.
Lau, U.S. Pat. No. 5,287,680 employs a hand-held battery operated vacuum packing device for evacuating and sealing conventional plastic bags. The device has a housing with a pair of jaws mounted on a lever with a slot between the said jaws and lever through which the edges of the bag are pulled to press the edges together. A nozzle extends outwardly from the housing and an air extractor fan in the housing sucks air from the bag just prior to sealing. With the jaws in an open position, the two mating edges of the bag are threaded together into the slot between the two jaws, and the nozzle is placed in the bag. The lever is then operated to close the jaws. The bag and the vacuum packing device are then pulled in opposite directions, so that the two edges of the bag are pulled past the nozzle and through the slot into sealing engagement with one another. When the bag is nearly completely sealed along its opening, the extractor fan is operated to extract air from the bag through the nozzle. The lever is then released to open the jaws and the nozzle is withdrawn, and the bag manually sealed.
Nguyen, U.S. Pat. No. 7,316,101 attempts to minimize the flow of air back into a sealed plastic bag by depositing a fluid along the seal to improve its leak resistance, and inserting a hollow vacuum tube in the corner of the bag to evacuate the bag. Users manually apply pinching pressure to sandwich the evacuation tube between the unclosed portion of the seal to prevent air from escaping. After a vacuum is drawn in the bag, users must quickly pull out the evacuation tube so that the pinching pressure is transferred to the closure thereby closing the unclosed portion of the seal. This process not only allows air to reenter the bag while the probe is being withdrawn, but also runs the risk of contaminating the contents of the bag with micro-organisms that may be on the probe.
A variety of specially designed large storage bags having air valve arrangements are also known in the art, such as disclosed in Yeager, U.S. Pat. No. 5,829,884 and Koyanagi, U.S. Pat. No. 6,499,600, have been proposed for the purpose of removing air from the storage bags in order to reduce the volume of an item, such as clothing, inside the bag to minimize required storage space.
A variety of combination vacuum and heat sealing devices are known in the art. Most of these types of heat sealing devices are not well suited for conventional re-sealable plastic bags because the heat source typically burns through conventional thin-walled re-sealable bags. Further, such heat-sealing systems are relatively expensive, and their large size prohibits them from being stored in ordinary kitchen drawers.
Accordingly, a need exists for a vacuum sealing system that allows users to vacuum pack the contents of re-sealable flexible plastic bags without experiencing the drawbacks of existing art.
The present invention is distinguished from prior art in general, and these cited patents in particular, by a vacuum sealing method and apparatus that can be used with ordinary re-sealable plastic bags. The system does not require modifying the bags or inserting any type of vacuum probe or adapter into the bags, thereby reducing both cost and complexity while simultaneously improving reliability and ease of use.
The present vacuum sealing method and apparatus for evacuating air from re-sealable plastic bags overcomes the problems with prior art by enclosing the re-sealable bag inside a larger vacuum chamber that evacuates air from the entire system. Further, the system automatically closes the re-sealable bag when the desired vacuum level is reached. This automatic closure feature is very important because once the bag collapses around its contents; the seal becomes immobile, and cannot be moved by hand. The collapsed bag freezes the seal in place whether or not the seal is closed or open. If the seal is not closed, then the vacuum will be lost when the inner bag is removed from the vacuum chamber. Although the sealing action may be accomplished using mechanical devices that feed through the walls of a rigid vacuum chamber, a simpler and more effective approach is to employ a vacuum chamber having flexible walls, and containing apparatus inside the vacuum chamber that automatically performs the sealing operation. A practical way of implementing a flexible vacuum chamber is to employ a larger, flexible re-sealable bag as the vacuum chamber. However, such a system requires preventing the flexible wall of the vacuum chamber from prematurely collapsing around the vacuum port and stopping the vacuum process before reaching the desired vacuum level. The present system prevents such uncontrolled collapse of the flexible vacuum chamber by incorporating a structure inside the vacuum chamber that controls the way the larger bag collapses around the inner bag and vacuum port. This inner structure is referred to as a vacuum tray and incorporates all of the features needed to quickly, reliably, and inexpensively perform the vacuuming and sealing operations. Such features include a vacuum port; a frame that prevents the outer bag from collapsing around the vacuum port; a well that collects fluids that may be forced from the inner re-sealable bag and prevents aspiration of fluids into the vacuuming apparatus; a shelf for sealing the inner re-sealable bag, a ramp that guides the inner bag onto the sealing shelf; components that cause the collapsing outer bag to activate the sealing mechanism of the inner bag; and a means for inexpensively mating the outer bag and vacuum port to external vacuuming apparatus.
This invention is a method and apparatus for quickly and inexpensively exhausting air from ordinary re-sealable plastic bags. This invention solves the problem of vacuum packing machines only working with special bags provided by the manufacturer of the vacuuming apparatus. This invention also solves the problem that general purpose vacuuming machines, such as vacuum cleaners, require special adapters to interface with ordinary re-sealable bags, with different adapters needed for different bags and different bag sizes. This invention allows users to vacuum pack any commercially available re-sealable plastic bag, without using any special adapters to interface the system to the re-sealable bag. This invention works by inserting the re-sealable bag to be vacuumed into a larger re-sealable bag that constitutes a flexible vacuum chamber. Air is then evacuated from the flexible vacuum chamber, which collapses around the open inner re-sealable bag, thereby creating a vacuum in the inner re-sealable bag as well. As it collapses, the larger re-sealable bag activates the sealing mechanism of the inner re-sealable bag, thereby closing it shut, and preserving the vacuum. The inner re-sealable bag is then removed from the outer re-sealable bag.
This invention takes advantage of a key principle of physics: All of the space inside a vacuum chamber experiences the same vacuum level. This means that if an open re-sealable bag and its contents are placed inside a vacuum chamber, the inside of the re-sealable bag will be evacuated to the same level as rest of the space inside the vacuum chamber. Secondly, since there will always remain some amount of air in the vacuum chamber, and the air density will be uniform throughout the vacuum chamber, the amount of residual air trapped inside the re-sealable bag can be minimized by squeezing the re-sealable bag down to its smallest possible volume prior to re-sealing the bag. This translates into making the re-sealable plastic bag conform as closely as possible to its contents. Accordingly, the optimal method of evacuating a re-sealable bag is to place the opened bag inside a collapsible vacuum chamber, draw down a vacuum, allow the collapsible vacuum chamber to force the re-sealable bag to shrink around its contents, and then seal the bag prior to releasing the vacuum. The present invention automatically accomplishes all of these steps, as illustrated in the accompanying drawings.
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Users carry out the vacuum packing operation by placing food or other material into the re-sealable bag, 14, shown in
Numerous modifications to and alternative embodiments of the present invention will be apparent to those skilled in the art in view of the foregoing description. Accordingly, this description is to be construed as illustrative only and is for the purpose of teaching those skilled in the art the best modes of carrying out the invention. Details of the system may be varied substantially without departing from the spirit of the invention and the exclusive use of all modifications which come within the scope of the appended claims is reserved.
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What happened to Moxnews?Submitted by scdecade on Tue, 11/27/2012 - 18:28
As many DP'ers are no doubt already aware Moxnews, aka CSPANJunkie, is the essential YouTube channel. The owner has been the fastest and most complete uploader of liberty and other content for many years. Every so often YouTube shuts down one of his channels but he's always set up new ones. In the past he kept people up to date by his personal website www.moxnews.com. For some reason all of his YouTube channels have gone quiet and there's no update on his website. Anybody know anything about this?
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Pretty sure the pranked reporter video
From today was brought to us by moxnews
Maybe he is taking a well earned break?
Wish I knew.
His Youtube channel MOXNEWSdOtCOM shows last activity Nov 18. Youtube channel MOXNEWSCcom shows last activity Nov 5. I hope all is well with him. I sure miss his posts.


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Fast sprout seeds - children?
My granddaughters will be here for almost 5 days. I would like to start some seeds that will sprout within those 5 days. Do you know of any that will sprout that fast? Thanks, Nancy
ditto on the above choices. I had marigold babies within three days for my son to bring in to his kindergarten class and share.
If she is taking it home with her you can also put it in a clear plastic cup and she will be able to see the roots grow. =)
I've only grown Zinnias from tastefullyjulie's list. However, they literally came up in _under_ 48 hours this year.
Here is a link that might be useful: My garden blog
Thanks all. I really like the clear plastic cup idea. I also discovered the "Gardening with Kids" forum. Thanks so much. Nancy
Here is a link that might be useful: For the Kids
What about edible sprouts? Mung bean, alfalfa, wheat grass & others are available at health food stores, are cheap, & can be oftentimes bought in small quantity. Some of them take 2 weeks to do complete, but you can start the sprouting process. Just experiment a bit before she comes to visit you.
Slip some beans and corn down the sides of a clear plastic cup and one can see the roots and the shoots with the bean being forced up out of the soil and the corn staying down in the soil with only the shoots coming up through the surface. A monocotyledon vs dicotyledon thing. Interestingly some children seem to like these big words.
The sunflowers were the winner, but the purple hyacinth bean vine was second. The best part was the plastic cup, with the seeds planted around the edges. We watched the roots go all the way to the bottom of the cup on the sunflowers. Thanks for all your ideas. Nancy
I only did Convolvulus 2 years, but they always popped up in 3 days. Very satisfying flower for kids (with all the colors).
Sorry, I can't remember how long it took them to make flowers. It usually does take awhile to get flowers from seeds (they sit there with the first seed leaves and nothing else for a week at least).
Impatiens bloom when pretty young and small, I guess they are the fastest to flower that I've had.


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Published by Nintendo, Developed by Nintendo
Genres: Sports (4 players)
US release date: Nov 19th, 2006 | EU release date: -
If you don't care about graphics, this game is for you.
Review written by
When I first picked up a Wii, I thought this game was going to be really bad by the look of the graphics. But if there is one thing you will learn from this game, it is this: Graphics aren't everything.
I hate to say that after 1 hour and 30 minutes, you will put the game down. Boxing is not as bad as the rumors say. Now, the physics in bowling are surprisingly well done.
Now for the controls. For bowling, you will hold B and take the remote back and swing while letting go of B and aim with the cursor. For golf, you will hold A and swing. If you hit it too hard in your swing you will do a hook. For Tennis you simply swing like a racket. For Boxing, you punch left (or right depending on your hands) with the nunchuk and the opposite with the Wii-mote. Dodge by going left or right. For Baseball, you simply swing like a bat. The timing has to be very good to get a home run. You pitch by raising the Wii-mote and throwing it (not letting go of the Remote). Use A+B, A or B for different pitches.
So the bottom line is that if you want to see what the Wii can do, play this game!
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The "we are the first generation of parents to" lifestyle piece is a hardy perennial that probably shouldn't even exist. There really is nothing new under the parenting sun; everything is just a variation on the anxieties parents have always faced. I suspect that pre-parenthood obliviousness, combined with the frighteningly intimate quality of those worries once they appear, cause a lot of parents to think there is something novel about it all.
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A mix in honor of the recent transit of Venus across the face of the sun. It won't happen again until 2117.
All the tracks have Venus, sun or transit in the title.
great as always! :]
Looks like the sun's got a birth mark=) Can't say a thing about the mix yet. But I push the button right about now and I love low light mixes as far as I know. Oooooooooommmmmmmm
MÁGICO... para acostarse a ver las estrellas e imaginar que hay más allá de nuestro sistema solar.
Excellent - love it
Lov thix mix. So much.
As always, your mixes are so beautiful. You just have a way of narrating events with music. Thank you.
You had me with the Hopkins. Well done. Thanks and cheers, indeed!
cosmic vibrations! great!
the transit of venus was recent and wont happen again in our life time i like that this mix was named after that. I love the flow, and sound that tells its story
Another corker.
Wow what a great sound moment!!!
Amazing, thx & what a great mix set. Everything is perfect. A reel instrument, vocal.
muy relajante!!
Très agréable à entendre!!!!
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Teen assaulted with metal bar
Gangster charged in random attack gets bail
A well-known member of the Manitoba Hells Angels who allegedly broke the arm of a 14-year-old leukemia patient has been released from custody -- despite strong objections by justice officials.
Full details of the Aug. 5 random attack in Winnipeg emerged for the first time Friday at a bail hearing. There is no publication ban on the proceedings.
Rod Sweeney, 45, is charged with aggravated assault and assault with a weapon. He had been in custody since his Aug. 13 arrest. None of the allegations has been proven and he is presumed innocent.
"An unprovoked attack on a child is something the public would be outraged by," Crown attorney Carla Dewar told court Friday. She suggested Sweeney is a major risk to public safety.
"In order to maintain confidence in the administration of justice, his detention is necessary," she said.
But provincial court Judge John Guy disagreed, ruling Sweeney could return to the community under conditions that include a 10 p.m. curfew and $2,000 surety.
The victim and his 27-year-old uncle were attacked as they rode their bikes in the back lane of Molson Street near Concordia Avenue in East Kildonan.
The teen has been sick with cancer for several years and never learned to ride a bike, something he was embarrassed about, court was told. His uncle, who lives in the neighbourhood, was giving him secret lessons.
"He asked him to do this under the cover of darkness, so to speak," said Dewar.
But things took a violent turn when a man began screaming at them from behind a fence of a nearby home.
"What are you doing?" the stranger yelled, the Crown said.
"It's a free country, we can ride our bikes," the uncle replied.
The man told the pair he'd been watching them on surveillance cameras from inside his home. He vowed to "teach you a lesson," then appeared moments later in the lane. He was carrying a large metal bar that was used to strike the boy on the arm, breaking it. The uncle was also punched repeatedly and had a bicycle thrown at him.
The uncle identified the attacker as Sweeney when provided with a police photo lineup. The boy wasn't able to make such an identification.
Sweeney, who lives in the home where the victims say the "voice" came from, was contacted by police and denied any responsibility. He agreed to turn himself in, but left the city and didn't do so until eight days after the attack.
By then, police executed a search warrant at his home on Molson and say the recording device for his surveillance system had been removed, thereby preventing any videos from that night from being monitored.
"The presumption is that there's something there that has been removed," Dewar said Friday.
Sweeney has presented his alibi. He claims he was out fishing at a friend's Gimli-area cottage at the same time he was alleged to have attacked the two victims in Winnipeg.
That friend, Roman Winter, testified Friday at the bail hearing and swore Sweeney couldn't be responsible.
He described their evening of fishing, detailing what they caught. The Crown attacked his story, suggesting Winter is trying cover for someone he said has been his friend for more than two decades.
Dewar urged the judge to put "very little if any weight" on it.
Defence lawyer Gerri Wiebe told court Sweeney can't be kept behind bars just because he happens to be a member of the Hells Angels.
"That's a red herring being dangled in front of you," she said. "Mr. Sweeney is cloaked in the presumption of innocence."
Guy agreed, saying he has to consider the strength of the Crown's case in determining bail. He said it's clear there are issues that will have to be litigated later.
And while Sweeney has a lengthy criminal record, including several acts of violence, it's virtually spotless during the past 10 years.
"The Crown has not met the onus," said Guy.
Sweeney's brother, Dale Sweeney, is the president of the Manitoba Hells Angels and is currently serving an 11-year prison sentence for his role in an elaborate drug operation.
Republished from the Winnipeg Free Press print edition September 28, 2013 A3
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Exeter duo sign new deals
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Exeter duo Tom Johnson and Haydn Thomas have agreed new deals at Sandy Park.
Flanker Johnson, 28, has signed a new two-year contract while scrum-half Thomas has committed for a further three years with the ambitious Aviva Premiership club.
"Obviously this is very positive news for the club that we already have got players who are prepared to commit to the club over the long term," head coach Rob Baxter said.
"Both Tom and Haydn have played a big part in what we have done so far this season in the Premiership and they can see that we are a progressive club who are looking to move forward all the time.
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