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100 Human Paladin
'no sir, i don't like it!'
What's funny is that most the humor from Animaniacs is over kids' heads. Children don't really get satire, and that show was chock full of it. Funnier still, older folk don't give shows like this a chance, so they miss the genius of it all. But hey, people are like that.
Cartoons actually were good back in the day. Pretty sure that all changed when Pokemon aired on TV. My soul has never recovered.
Shonen stuff is like a guilty pleasure. They strike me as lazy story telling. And they are soooo bad ;x Seriously? Goku just spent the whole last 2 episodes powering up and screaming... and he's yet to show HIS TRUE POWER. Pfft.
The Berserk movie ( in three parts, i believe ) is just a retelling of the old series, as far as I know. Essentially, it's nothing new. It simply looks a little cleaner. Not even a reboot. I'll still watch the hell out of it though. Epic story with epic characters ;o
Pretty sure Tri-Gun, NGE, Helsing, Ruroni Kenshin (not the !@#$TY Samurai X dub), and FLCL were the last really good series I've seen. I watched Claymore recently, it wasn't bad. I'm probably out of touch with anime, since I noticed a long time ago that most of them are the %^-*ing same. I think the single shot movies based on a series are called OVAs. Usually, in my experience, they end up being better than the series itself. Oh, and fan service is obnoxious.
"Oh, you mean I'm supposed to watch Ikki Toussen with my pants around my ankles?! Roger that!".
So ya, !@#$ anime. Although, we get gems like Ninja Scroll and Vampire Hunter D every once in a while.
Edited by Vlada on 1/29/2013 12:28 AM PST
Oh come on!
You're doing in one raid night what took my guild two, at this rate you'll have Queen before us. <_<
Grats. >:(
We were supposed to raid tonight, which would have been our fourth raid night this week which is a lot for us, but some people couldn't make it.
Went and did H BoT to see Sinestra for the experience of it with 8 people, because we never could make it in Cata. Cool fight and I can see how it would have been hard as crap in the day.
Also seems to have messed with my armory from that time though.....
I didn't like the reused KJ model and death scene, wasn't really fitting for her lore. But she had good voice acting.
Oh not that again.
I will be so glad when the current generation in political power completely dies out and the younger generation completely takes over. It's happening already, slowly but surely.
It won't be much better, but some stupidity will die with the old hopefully.
You could have fooled me.
Enjoying cartoons is not an indication of maturity level.
Shonen stuff is horrid and not worth the time it takes to make.
But even I had guilty pleasures in the genre. Inuyasha and Dragon Ball Z being the two major ones back in the day.
On the subject of animation in the 90's and now kids are missing out these days. I remember coming home from school too Toonami everyday and growing up with Saturday morning cartoons of epic proportions.
They don't really have that anymore.
Fun game to play with friends when bored. Everybody pair up, one person is a max level the other is a lowbie, in the 10-20 range. Then pick a high level zone and a start and end position.
Object of the game is for the pairs to run the race with the high level keeping the lowbie alive. Every 30 seconds or so the lowbie is allowed to run wild and try to cause trouble until the high level can catch them (run over their toon) and then they have to behave for at least 30 seconds.
Whoever gets to the end with their lowbie alive first wins, ressing is allowed but will obviously hold you back.
Also there's a prize for the lowbie that causes the most ruckus.
No flying, all on foot. Judges follow in the air on mounts. My guild did this tonight and it was actually great fun. :D
Edited by Cadenbrie on 1/29/2013 12:56 AM PST
I remember getting up early to watch stuff like Digimon and Reboot before going to school, it was good stuff.
I grew up
Is someone trying to steal my title as edgy 13-year-old?
Pretty sure Exo-Squad was one of the last good Saturday morning cartoons in the 90s. Batman TSA was epic. The JLA, before they expanded past the main 6-7 heroes (JLA: United? ), was also decent. There's been a few animated adaptations of the Avengers and Fantastic 4 that didn't suck. The last 2 X men cartoons were ok. And I'm not even going to get into the anime Iron Man and Wolverine... they don't feel right ;o The new Thundercats was a huge disappointment.
I grew up on He-Man, Transformers G1, Bionic Six, GI Joe, Voltron, and Thundercats. I'm not saying those were best, I mean, have you tried watching an old TC episode? Holy crap they are bad. But they are vastly more interesting than kid's playing a card game for the fate of the world or capturing creatures that all happen to sound annoying to use them in pit fights.
Shame about Young Justice, it was actually pretty good.
100 Draenei Paladin
Gurren Lagann, Death Note, Code Geass, Psycho Pass, etc. There's still quite a few good titles out there. It's just a matter of sifting through the schlock.
Justice League Unlimited, Spectacular Spiderman, Static Shock, and Batman Beyond were all quite good as well. All bu the Spiderman were done by the same studio that did Batman the Animated Series (if I'm remembering correctly). But still, there's gems every now and again.
Some is, some isn't.
You could have fooled me.
It's kind of quaint to see lines being drawn in the sand on maturity, on a video game forum no less.
90 Human Paladin
"When I became a man I put away childish things, including the fear of childishness and the desire to be very grown up." C.S. Lewis
I can quote famous authors, that means I'm the most mature right?
"Happy, happy, joy joy,
Happy, happy, joy, joy!"
God that show was so terribly laced with potty humor, how did I miss it as a kid? I LOVED it.
I actually had to have an older cousin explain the jokes to me when I was younger, but all I really cared about was the goofy animation. When I grew older, and had the services of say, Google and Wikipedia to explain the jokes of Animaniacs and other shows like Tiny Toons and whatnot, I was floored at the level of detail the animators put into their humor. Nowadays it's hard to find a cartoon that you can really dig into like that. Heck, hard to find a clever show like that period that isn't Arrested Development, a lot of the shows seem bland in comparison.
Then again, I do watch How I Met Your Mother, and while people either love it or hate it, you can't deny it's fun for a lot of dumb humor.
Man, it took FOREVER for Kagome and Inuyasha to finally get together, though that's a good thing more often than not (still, find it funny that the animation studio cancelled it until the author of the manga could finally finish the damn story, it really was taking DBZ style turns in just LASTING. TOO. DAMN. LONG. FOR NEXT. SUPERPOWE--I MEAN, SUPER SWORD).
I'm still of the opinion that Digimon Tamers was the best of the seasons and the world would be better with more animation like it. It had incredible insight for a Japanese toy franchise anime.
Oh, Death Note was mentioned earlier, so I feel it's appropriate to share this, in light of all this animation talk:
dragon ball z with slightly more reasonable hair. it is a shame, it did start out very good.
watching beast wars was my motivation for getting up on time.
Gurren Lagann, Death Note, Code Geass, Psycho Pass, etc. There's still quite a few good titles out there. It's just a matter of sifting through the schlock.
i'm quite enjoying psycho pass, but there haven't been that any anime's that have really made me sit back and go "wow, that was good" in a long time. i think gurren lagann was the last one that did that for me.
i did like dead man wonderland and blue exorcist though.
Morning Pally Crew
Talking about old cartoons is going to make me want to have a nostalgia day and watch some of them.
So much better than the crap they have on today that they call 'cartoons'
Morning Pally Crew
Been having a Rocko and Hey Arnold marathon on Netflix, to complement my Futurama and Scrubs fix. Good times.
Oh Rocko, I loved that show
Though I always wanted to puch Heffer in the face
Gurren Lagann, Death Note, Code Geass, Psycho Pass, etc. There's still quite a few good titles out there. It's just a matter of sifting through the schlock.
But that's all shounen stuff. Not to say some of it isn't good, but there's more to anime than that.
I loved Beast Wars, but I don't think I got any of the channels it aired on. I do remember renting the tapes from Blockbuster, though.
Maybe I'm just getting old and crochety, or nostalgia-goggles and all that
But honestly Adventure Time, Regular Show, Annoying Orange; I dont see the appeal of those shows, aside from their...lower quality animation.
In fact most of the 'popular' cartoons these days seem to share the same 'lower' animation quality (quality being relative to the person watching of course)
No, it isn't just you. Modern cartoons are truly atrocious, even "reboots" of older cartoons. About the only contemporary Western cartoon I like is MLP, and even that's been fairly meh this season.
There are good ones, but they really high production value, thought provoking ones keep being canceled or delayed (YJ, Avatar, GL, avengers, tron) for these new...'cartoons'
Its very disappointing because there are good ones out there, really good ones, but the companies themselves are killing them off with constant hiatuses, timeslot movements; regardless of if they're popular or not, so they can put out more crap.
I remember Digimon being on the Saturday morning block, man I loved Digimon. Reboot was also quite awesome, I remember when the series stopped for a couple years after Bob vanished and then they brought it back to finally wrap up the story.
My early morning fun before school when I was a kid was classic Power Rangers.
"When I became a man I put away childish things, including the fear of childishness and the desire to be very grown up." C.S. Lewis
That makes me want to go reread Narnia, C.S. Lewis was brilliant.
I still haven't finished Inuyasha all these years later, haven't watched past the point the anime originally cut off at. I really should just for closures sake.
The first season will always have a special place in my heart but Tamers was quite good, it was probably the darkest and most mature of all the series.
It dealt with some pretty deep stuff really.
Beast Wars was win.
Quality is relative, the art style of Adventure Time for instance is quite suited too it's content.
I describe Adventure Time by saying it's the Western version of FCLC. The show actually has a deep over arching story that is given to you in bits and pieces between hilarious crazy.
There aren't as many good animated shows these days as in the past, but there are still some gems. Adventure Time is one of them in my book. Regular Show is okay.
I wish Kora would start back already.
Edited by Cadenbrie on 1/29/2013 11:45 AM PST
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I Need Help Choosing a Fig!
Hi, I've been reading posts here about figs and had decided to buy my first ever fig tree, specifically the Brown Turkey based on favorable reviews. Then I went on the Fig forum, and the expert poster there, who even has his own website selling an amazing variety, mentioned that the world seemed to be divided into 2 parts, people who like Brown Turkey, and those who don't. Yikes! I have never eaten a BT before, I assumed it would taste more or less like a...fig. By that I mean the black ones, like Mission figs. I am not picky; I think I will love all figs. My local farmers market is woefully unenlightened when it comes to naming the fruit. Most just have signs saying Figs. Some might say Mission Figs. That's it.
So, what should I buy for my location, near LAX about 5 miles from the coast? Is BT similar in taste to Missions?
Can someone who has grown both tell me what difference there is in taste, productivity, etc? I don't want to buy a BT only to find I belong to the second group.
I would suggest reading up on the fig forum, or at figs 4 fun. The problem is that there are several kinds of BTs. Southern are different from the common California BT. Generally, CA BTs are a bit less flavorful than some other choices. Black Missions are very good. I like Violette de Bordeaux. Vista is similar to VdB (some say genetically identical, but my Vista is very different in form to my VdB) and is very prolific. Panache tiger figs are great too. In the end, most figs taste pretty similar to one another, so you can't go too wrong. BTs can grow very large. VdB tends to be a small to medium sized tree.
Environmentally, figs usually like it hotter than average, but Missions and VdB do very well in a cooler maritime environment. They are desert plants and like well-draining soil. If it's cool year-round where you are, panache is maybe not the best choice... I know it's not cool year-round at LAX, but the environment there is very variable from one location to another.
There are so many variables, you might want to just do some research.
Thanks for the input. After some more research, I've narrowed it down to Mission or VdB, whichever I find at this good nursery in Jan. They probably will have both. I will probably go with the one that is smaller, the VdB, for my home and buy the Mission for the garden plot at my workplace. I've convinced the owner to yank out 2 ugly useless small landscape trees, and will plant a fig and maybe an oro blanco citrus.
I've been really happy with my fig choices: Black Jack and VdB. Both trees stay on the small side, but BJ fruit is large and honey-ed, while VdB is small and jam-like. They seem to compliment each other. Not sure how well they will do for you near LAX.


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If I am a rich man, I want to spend all my money for my team, blasts Mancini as City boss calls foul on financial fair play
Roberto Mancini hit out at the financial constrictions which he believes are designed to strangle the growth of clubs like Manchester City.
With new Premier League rules set to be introduced to sit alongside UEFA's financial fair play guidelines, it will become increasingly difficult for clubs like City to succeed on the back of outside investment.
'I do not agree,' said Mancini. 'If I
am a rich man, I want to spend all my money for my team. I don't agree
with this in general, but it is only my personal opinion.
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Clean up job: Roberto Mancini (right) chats with Sergio Aguero by Manchester City's boot-cleaning device
Briefing: Roberto Mancini talks to his Manchester City squad during training on Friday morning
'If the rules are this, we should
work like this. We can't change this. 'We need to buy good players. If
you want to buy good players you have to spend money.
'But if we work quickly, we can find good players without spending a lot of money.
'I don't understand the rules, but we
will choose a different way. It is clear with this rule it is more
difficult than 10 years ago. But if you work well, you can find good
players without spending maybe £30m on one player. But it is also true
that every time that Manchester City move for a player, if his value is
£10m, for City they ask £30m.
'There should be other rules to stop this.'
Manchester United manager Sir Alex
Ferguson has also spent big on players down the years. He said: 'UEFA's
financial fair play starts this year and it's all good in theory but
application will be difficult. If people have money to burn they can
place it anywhere in the world.
'It would be good if it was applicable, but I have my doubts. It will always be a problem trying to enforce it.'
City travel to Southampton today with
Yaya Toure back from Africa Cup of Nations duty and captain Vincent
Kompany fit for action.
Mancini is hoping to cut United's
lead at the top to six points before Ferguson's team entertain Everton
tomorrow. United then travel to Spain for a Champions League clash with
Real Madrid and Mancini hopes this will impact upon the title race.
He added: 'If Manchester United draw
or (have a) defeat, the title race is reopened. When you play in the
Champions League against Real Madrid, you can lose your strength in this
game. For this reason we support United to go through.
'If we can recover eight points in six games, as we did last year, then I think to recover nine points in 13 games will be easy.'
But to do so, Mancini will need his forwards to put their shooting boots on.
'Last year at this moment we had 15 or 18 goals more than now, so maybe we need to score more,' he said.
'Last year we scored a lot but we are missing eight or 10 goals from our strikers.'
Come on then: The likes of Sergio Aguero (right) need to be bagging more goals for City
There has been a reduction in output from City's front men.
Last term, Mario Balotelli scored 17 times for the Blues. When he was sold to AC Milan last month, the Italian had managed just three.
Sergio Aguero is 19 short of the 30 he managed last term whilst Carlos Tevez, an unused substitute against Liverpool last weekend has scored just five times in 28 matches, way below the strike rate expected from a player of his calibre.
'Maybe he didn't score a lot of goals in the last couple of months but when Carlos plays he is strong, he fights and puts all his strength forward for the team,' said Mancini.
'At this moment he is unlucky.
'Maybe he was not happy last week when he was on the bench but there are not many players who are happy when they don't play.'
Working hard: Mancini is pleased with Carlos Tevez's exertions but knows he must get back among the goals
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The Royal Wedding may be over, but people can't stop talking (or tweeting) about it! Case in point? A few of our favorite celebs took to Twitter to give their well wishes, share their thoughts and join the billions of people who are already talking about the magical ceremony. So, which celebs tweeted about…
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Whitney Port: 'Prince Harry and I Would Make a Lovely Couple!'
Whitney Port: I told my friend that I wanted to go to the wedding as Prince Harry's date and she photoshopped this pic for me. While yes, I find it slightly creepy, I have to say we do make a lovely couple...
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April 29, 2011
OMG! The Incredible 8-Layer Royal Wedding Cake (PHOTOS)
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Which Pop Princess is a Prince William Fan?
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The Next Royal Couple: Pippa Middleton & Prince Harry?
It's all about newlyweds Kate Middleton and Prince William, but lets face it, the world also took notice of maid of honor Pippa Middleton. That dress! That body! That hair! Anyone else think Pippa and Prince Harry look a little bit too good together?
April 29, 2011
The Other Kate (Hudson) Gets Wild in Animal-Print Dress (PHOTOS)
Looking like Hollywood royalty, a very pregnant Kate Hudson dressed up her baby bump with a flowing animal-print dress Thursday evening when she stepped out for the Hawn Foundation charity event at the Metropolitan Club in New York City. The fashionable actress complimented her leopard print number with a pair of black pee…
April 29, 2011
Because He's Hot (The Royal Wedding Edition): Ian Thorpe Dapper in a Suit! (PHOTOS)
Sure, the usual (hot) suspects like Prince William, Prince Harry and David Beckham were seen at the Friday's royal wedding, but one stud that flew under the radar? Swimmer Ian Thorpe! The sexy Australian hunk was lucky enough to snag an invitation to the festivities and did not disappoint in the fashion department,…
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April 29, 2011
Kate Middleton's Something Old, Something New, Something Borrowed & Something Blue!
Just because it was the royal wedding didn't mean that a common time honored tradition could be skipped! The newly married Princess Kate Middleton was no exception when it came to this cardinal bridal rule, but what exactly did she have as her something old, something new, something borrowed and something blue?
April 29, 2011
Relive Prince William and Kate Middleton's Royal Wedding in 60 Seconds
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April 29, 2011
Royal Hat Showdown: Who Had the Most Ridiculous Topper? (POLL)
Hats are as much a part of the Royal Wedding as kisses on the balcony or carriage rides through London. And, like anything fashion-based, there's always those one or two people who take things a little too far. Those people just happened to be Princess Beatrice of York and Tara Palmer-Tomkinson,…
April 29, 2011
Royal Kiss-Off! Prince William & Kate MIddleton vs. Princess Diana & Prince Charles
It's a tradition for royals to share a smooch on their wedding day while on the balcony of the Buckingham Palace, but who had the best kiss? Prince William and Princess Kate kissed not one, but two times in front of a cheering crowd. However, while William and Kate shared two short…
April 29, 2011
Pays to Be a Royals! Kate Middleton's Duchess Perks!
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Giveaway Alert! Kristy Lin Jewelry
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April 29, 2011
Prince William & Duchess Kate Kiss!
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Royal Wedding Hats
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Bride & Groom: Kate Middleton & Prince William's Royal Wedding
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April 29, 2011
Pippa Middleton Stuns in White Bridemaid Dress at Royal Wedding (PHOTOS)
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This system was actually prevalent in more countries, like The Netherlands. However, the pension funds *did* check any suspicious last-minute pay rises (over the last few years before retiring). My father worked for a company that did that once, the pension fund inquired, they couldn't provide a good reason and the pension fund said: "okay, we'll not harm our client, but every cent we have to pay above the normal pension she'd have received otherwise will be payed by you". They then pre-calculated the pension and fined the company for the full amount. They never tried that particular trick again.
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The Bears and Vikings meet Sunday for the second time in three weeks, and you can be sure that Jared Allen's season-ending block on Chicago guard Lance Louis might be on some players' minds. Allen hit Lewis high while Antoine Winfield of the Vikings was returning an interception, and Lewis suffered a torn knee ligament when his left leg got caught in the grass. No penalty was called, but Allen was fined $21,000.
"I think I've talked on it a few times," said Bears quarterback Jay Cutler during a conference call with Twin Cities reporters today. "It was unfortunate that Lance tore his ACL, I don't think Jared is that type of player, I don't think he was out intentionally to hurt anyone. I wish he would have hit him a little lower, but it happened."
Allen had a conference call with Chicago media and said: "There is nothing to retaliate. It wasn't malicious. It wasn't done out of ill will. We had an interception. A guy was running towards our guy to make a tackle and I threw a block. Again, like I said, my condolences are to him. The intent is never to hurt anybody. You never want to hurt anybody. Unfortunately, that's part of our game and it happened. But you don't go into a game wandering what if."
The Bears, meanwhile, will also play Sunday without All-Pro middle linebacker Brian Urlacher (hamstring).
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Went back to the estate sale & bought more!!
I went back today to see if the landscaping stones had been marked down. Saturday they wanted $3 each, well just as I walked up they were sold..ugghh! They were selling EVERYTHING...trees, shrubs, stones, you name it, come to find out house is in foreclosure.
So I walked around and picked up a few more garden art items. I had spoken with them Sat about the storage building, they said they would sell it for $500, today I asked again, said $200. I called DH, he came & looked at it, said there was no way to get it out b/c of trees, fence, etc. Then I looked up & saw the really nice arbor, and you know I had to ask..LOL Salesperson said, let me check..yep, $200 :)
DH said there was $800-900 worth of lumber, $300+ in brackets, screws & bolts
So now I am the owner of a huge arbor that we have to go take down tomorrow :) Pictures do not do it justice. It is extremely well built & in great shape, looks like they had lattice on top, then decided to put tin on top of that.
We're going to be building a deck on the back of the new house, and would you believe typical man thing, he's talking about using my perfectly lovely arbor to build the deck out of??? hmmph..I don't think so!!! Already had the deck in the budget, and I got news for him...I WILL WIN this battle!!! LOL Click on the small pix to see larger ones.
Yes, Frou, we are leaving the Victorian house. Two oldest kids are out on their own now, youngest only has 3 years left in high school. Too much house (3700 sqft) for the three of us, taxes & utilities are too high plus we have to pay tution for small private school here, public school is horrible. We have some family land about 40 minutes from here, new schools that are great, DD is already changed schools and loves it.... and I'm sooo ready to be back in the country!!!
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Does Chehade agree with Donuts on .doctor?
Should governments have the right to force business-limiting restrictions on new gTLD operators, even though they don't have the same rules in their own ccTLDs?
ICANN CEO Fadi Chehade evidently believes the answer to that question is "No", but it's what ICANN is controversially imposing on Donuts and two other .doctor applicants anyway.
Donuts recently filed a Request for Reconsideration appeal with ICANN over its decision to make the .doctor gTLD restricted to medical professionals only.
It was an unprecedented "Public Interest Commitment" demanded by ICANN staff in order to keep the Governmental Advisory Committee happy.
The GAC has been asking for almost two years for so-called "Category 1″ gTLD strings — which could be seen to represent highly regulated sectors such as law or medicine — to see a commensurate amount of regulation from ICANN.
Governments wanted, for example, registrants to show professional credentials before being able to register a name.
In the vast majority of instances, ICANN creatively reinterpreted this advice to require registrants to merely assert that they possess such credentials.
These rules were put in registries' contracts via PICs.
But for some reason in February the organization told Donuts that .doctor domains must be "ascribed exclusively to legitimate medical practitioners."
According to Donuts, this came out of the blue, is completely unnecessary, an example of ICANN staff making up policy on the spot.
Donuts wants to be able to to sell .doctor names to doctors of any discipline, not just medical doctors. It also wants people to be able to use the names creatively, such as "computer.doctor" or "skateboard.doctor".
What makes ICANN's decision especially confusing is that CEO Fadi Chehade had the previous day passionately leaped to the defense of new gTLD registries in their fight against unnecessary GAC-imposed red tape.
The following video, in which Chehade uses .dentist as an example of a string that should not be subject to even more oversight, was taken February 11 at a Q&A with the Domain Name Assocation.
The New gTLD Program Committee meeting that authorized ICANN staff to add the new PIC took place February 12, the very next day. Chehade did not attend.
It's quite remarkable how in line with registries Chehade seems to be.
It cuts to the heart of what many believe is wrong with the GAC — that governments demand of ICANN policies that they haven't even bothered to implement in their own countries, just because it's much easier to lean on ICANN than to pass regulations at home.
Here's the entire text of his answer. He's describing conversations he'd had with GAC members earlier in the week.
They're saying stop all the Category 1 TLDs. Stop them. Freeze them!
And we said: Why do we need to freeze them? What's the issue?
They said: It's going to harm consumers.
How will it harm consumers? We started having a debate.
It turns out that they're worried that if somebody got fadi.casino or fadi.dentist, to pick one of Statton's [Statton Hammock, VP at Rightside, who was present], that this person is not a dentist and will pluck your ear instead of your teeth. How do you make sure they're a dentist?
So I asked the European Commission: How do you make sure dentist.eu is a dentist?
They said: We don't. They just get it.
I said: Okay, so why do these guys [new gTLD registries] have to do anything different?
And they said: The new gTLD program should be better or a model…
I said: Come on guys, do not apply rules that you're not using today to these new folks simply because it's easy, because you can come and raise flags here at ICANN. Let's be fair. How do you do it at EU?
"Well, if somebody reports that fadi.dentist.eu is not a dentist, we remove them."
Statton said: We do the same thing. It's in our PICs. If fadi.dentist is not, and somebody reports them…
They said: But we can't call compliance.
You can call compliance. Anyone can call compliance. Call us and we'll follow up. With Statton, with the registrar.
What we have here is Chehade making a passionate case for the domain name industry's right to sell medical-themed domain names without undue regulation — using many of the same arguments that Donuts is using in its Reconsideration appeal — then failing to show up for a board meeting the next day when that specific issue was addressed.
It's impossible to know whether the NGPC would have reached a different decision had Chehade been at the February 12 meeting, because no formal vote was taken.
Rather, the committee merely passed along its "sense" that ICANN staff should carrying on what it was doing with regards implementing GAC advice on Category 1 strings.
While Chehade is but one voice on the NGPC, as CEO he is in charge of the ICANN staff, so one would imagine the decision to add the unprecedented new PIC to the .doctor contract falls into his area of responsibility.
That makes it all the more baffling that Donuts, and the other .doctor new gTLD applicants, are faced with this unique demand to restrict their registrant base to one subset of potential customers.
Could you survive a .sucks UDRP?
If you register a .sucks domain matching a brand, could you survive a subsequent UDRP complaint? Opinion is mixed.
In my view, how UDRP treats .sucks registrants will be a crucial test of Vox Populi Registry's business model.
Vox Populi Registry clearly envisages — and is actively encouraging with its policies — genuine critics, commentators and consumer advocates to register .sucks domains that match famous trademarks.
I really like this idea. Power to the people and all that.
But will UDRP panelists agree with me and Vox Pop? Cybersquatting case law under UDRP says, very firmly: "It depends."
Statistics generally favor mark owners
To date, there have been exactly 100 resolved UDRP complaints against domains that end in "sucks.com".
Of those, 47 cases ended up with a full transfer of the domain to the trademark owner. Only 30 resulted in a the complaint being denied.
Another 19 cases were withdrawn or terminated; the remainder were split decisions.
So it seems, based on historical "sucks" cases, that the odds favor trademark owners.
But each case is, theoretically at least, judged on its merits. So it does not necessarily hold that most .sucks UDRP complaints will be successful.
What does WIPO say?
The World Intellectual Property Association, which administers most UDRP cases, published a set of guidelines for its panelists.
Some guidelines specifically addresses "sucks" sites, but the advice is not always clear-cut.
There are three elements to UDRP. First, the complainant must show that the domain name in question is identical or confusingly similar to its trademark.
According to WIPO, it's the "consensus view" of UDRP panelists that adding "sucks" to a trademark at the second level does NOT stop a domain being confusiningly similar. WIPO says:
Generally, a domain name consisting of a trademark and a negative or pejorative term (such as [trademark]sucks.com) would be considered confusingly similar to the complainant's trademark for the purpose of satisfying the standing requirement under the first element of the UDRP (with the merits of such cases typically falling to be decided under subsequent elements). Panels have recognized that inclusion of a subsidiary word to the dominant feature of a mark at issue typically does not serve to obviate confusion for purposes of the UDRP's first element threshold requirement, and/or that there may be a particular risk of confusion among Internet users whose first language is not the language of the domain name
Some panels have disagreed with this prevailing view, however.
It remains to be seen whether moving the string "sucks" to the right of the dot would affect the outcome, but it's established UDRP case law that the dot in a domain can be pretty much ignored when testing for similarity.
The TLD a domain uses can be taken into account if it's relevant or disregarded if it is not, according to precedent.
The second test under UDRP is whether the registrant of the domain has legitimate rights or interests.
Panelists disagree on this point. WIPO says:
The right to criticize does not necessarily extend to registering and using a domain name that is identical or confusingly similar to the complainant's trademark. That is especially the case if the respondent is using the trademark alone as the domain name (i.e., [trademark.tld]) as that may be understood by Internet users as impersonating the trademark owner.
That view would seem to apply specifically to the use cases Vox Pop has in mind — the registry wants critics to own [trademark].sucks domains in order to criticize the trademark owner.
In the 2003 case of natwestbanksucks.com, the WIPO panel drew on earlier precedent to find that the registrant had no rights to the domain.
Respondents' can very well achieve their objective of criticism by adopting a domain name that is not identical or substantially similar to Complainants' marks. Given the free nature of the media which is the Internet and the chaotic spamming that has become epidemic, it does not appear that one can be at full liberty to use someone else's trade name or trademark by simply claiming the right to exercise a right to freedom of expression".
In other words: you may have a right to free speech on the internet, but you do not have the right to exercise it simply by adding "sucks" to a famous trademark.
But other UDRP panelists have disagreed. WIPO says that some panelists have found:
Irrespective of whether the domain name as such connotes criticism, the respondent has a legitimate interest in using the trademark as part of the domain name of a criticism site if such use is fair and noncommercial.
The third element of UDRP is bad faith. Complainants have to show that the registrant is up to something dodgy.
Some panelists have a pretty low threshold for what constitutes bad faith. Merely having the page parked — even if you did not park it yourself — can point to bad faith, especially in "sucks" cases.
WIPO says that "tarnishment" of a trademark — such as posting porn, which is banned under Vox Pop's AUP anyway — can be bad faith, but legitimate criticism would not usually:
While it would not normally extend to the mere posting of information about a complainant, or to the posting of genuine, non-commercial criticism regarding the trademark holder, it may extend to commercially motivated criticism by (or likely on behalf of) a competitor of such trademark holder.
So, with all that in mind, here are some tips for improving your odds of surviving a .sucks UDRP.
How to beat a .sucks UDRP
Poring over dozens of "sucks.com" decisions, it quickly becomes clear that there are certain things you should definitely do and not do if you want to keep a hold of your brand-match .sucks domain.
Given the volume of precedent, you'll have a hard time showing that your domain is not identical or confusingly similar to the trademark in question — strike one — but there are ways to show legitimate interests and rebut claims of bad faith.
1. Respond
To show you lack legitimate interests, the complainant only needs to make a face-value argument that you do not. Then the burden of proof to show rights switches to you.
If you don't respond to the UDRP, the panel will find you lack rights. Panelists rarely try to fight the corner of a registrant who has not responded.
That's strike two.
2. Don't allow your domain to be parked
If a domain is parked, UDRP panelists in "sucks.com" cases invariably find that the registrant lacks legitimate interests and has shown bad faith.
Parking is considered a commercial activity, so you won't be able to argue convincingly that you're exercising your right to non-commercial free speech if your domain is splashed with links to the trademark owner's competitors.
This holds true even if the domain was automatically parked by your registrar.
Dozens (hundreds?) of UDRP cases have been lost because Go Daddy parked the newly registered domain automatically, enabling the complainant to show commercial use.
Panelists are usually happy to overlook the lack of direct bad faith action by the registrant in such cases.
Parking will usually lead to strikes two and three.
In the case of .sucks, parking is actually banned by Vox Populi's acceptable use policies (pdf).
But the registry will only enforce this policy if it receives a complaint. I don't know if the Registry-Registrar Agreement, which isn't public, prohibits registrars auto-parking new domains.
3. Develop a site as soon as possible
In some "sucks.com" cases, respondents have argued that they had intended to put up a criticism site, but could not provide evidence to back up the claims.
If you register a .sucks matching a trademark, you'll want to put up some kind of site ASAP.
In the case of kohlersucks.com, the registrant had merely framed a Better Business Bureau web page, which was found to show non-commercial criticism use.
4. Don't offer to sell the domain
It should go without saying that offering to sell the domain to the trademark owner shows bad faith; it looks like extortion.
Panelists regularly also find that registrants give up their legitimate rights to a domain as soon as they make it available to buy.
5. Don't make any money whatsoever
The second you start making money from a domain that matches a trademark, you're venturing into the territory of commercial use and are much more likely to fail the WIPO test of "genuine, non-commercial criticism".
6. Be American
Depressingly, you stand a better chance of fighting off a UDRP on free speech grounds if both the case involves US-based parties and a US-based panelist.
Panelists are more likely to draw on the US Constitution's First Amendment and associated non-UDRP case law when determining rights or legitimate interests, when the registrant is American.
Merely registering with a US-based registrar is not enough to confer First Amendment rights to a registrant living outside of the US, according to UDRP panels.
Even though freedom of speech is a right in most of the world, in the universe of UDRP it seems the rest of us are second-class citizens compared to the yanks.
ICANN wins .hotels/.hoteis confusion appeal but has to pay up anyway
The proposed new gTLDs .hotels and .hoteis are too confusingly similar to coexist on the internet.
That's the result of an Independent Review Process decision this week, which denied .hotels applicant Booking.com's demand to have ICANN's string confusion decision overturned.
But the IRP panel, while handing ICANN a decisive victory, characterized the string confusion and IRP processes as flawed and said ICANN should have to pay half of the panel's $163,000 costs.
Booking.com filed the IRP a year ago, after the new gTLD program's String Similarity Panel said in February 2013 that .hotels was too similar to rival Despegar Online's proposed .hoteis.
.hoteis is the Portuguese translation of .hotels. Neither string was contested, so both would have been delegated to the DNS root had it not been for the confusion decision.
In my view, the String Similarity Panel's decision was pretty sound.
With an upper-case i, .hoteIs is virtually indistinguishable from .hotels in browsers' default sans-serif fonts, potentially increasing the ease of phishing attacks.
But Booking.com, eager to avoid a potentially costly auction, disagrees with me and, after spending a year exhausting its other avenues of appeal, filed an IRP in March 2013.
The IRP decision was handed down on Tuesday, denying Booking.com's appeal.
The company had appealed based not on the merits of the SSP decision, but on whether the ICANN board of directors had acted outside of its bylaws in establishing an "arbitrary" and opaque SSP process.
That's because the IRP process as established in the ICANN bylaws does not allow appellants to changed a decision on the merits. IRP panels are limited to:
comparing contested actions of the Board to the Articles of Incorporation and Bylaws, and with declaring whether the Board has acted consistently with the provisions of those Articles of Incorporation and Bylaws.
The IRP panel agreed that the SSP process could have been fairer and more transparent, by perhaps allowing applicants to submit evidence to the panel and appeal its decisions, saying:
There is no question but that that process lacks certain elements of transparency and certain practices that are widely associated with requirements of fairness.
But the IRP panel said Booking.com was unable to show that the ICANN board acted outside of its bylaws, highlighting the limits of the IRP as an appeals process:
In launching this IRP, Booking.com no doubt realized that it faced an uphill battle. The very limited nature of the IRP proceedings is such that any IRP applicant will face significant obstacles in establishing that the ICANN Board acted inconsistently with ICANN's Articles of Incorporation or Bylaws. In fact, Booking.com acknowledges those obstacles, albeit inconsistently and at times indirectly.
Booking.com has failed to overcome the very obstacles it recognizes exist.
The IRP panel quoted members of ICANN's New gTLD Program Committee extensively, highlighting comments which questioned the fairness of the SSP process.
In contrast to usual practice, where the losing party in an IRP bears the costs of the case, this panel said the $163,000 costs and $4,600 filing fee should be split equally between ICANN and Booking.com:
we can — and we do — acknowledge certain legitimate concerns regarding the string similarity review process raised by Booking.com, discussed above, which are evidently shared by a number of prominent and experienced ICANN NGPC members.
In view of the circumstances, each party shall bear one-half of the costs of the IRP provider
Booking.com and Despegar will now have to fight it out for their chosen strings at auction.
The full decision can be read in PDF format here. Other documents in the case can be found here.
The TL;DR version: ICANN wins because it has stacked the appeals deck in its favor and the IRP process is pretty much useless, so we're going to make them pay up for being dicks.
The IANA transition in a nutshell
The US plan to remove itself from its unique DNS oversight role is about creating a coalition of nations to thwart attempts by Russia and other "authoritarian" countries to increase government control of the internet.
That's according to Larry Strickling, assistant secretary at the US National Telecommunications and Information Administration, who delivered a beautifully succinct explanation to confused senators at a hearing in Washington DC this week.
Despite unnecessary diversions into issues such as net neutrality and copyright protection — which I'm sure was not at all due to senators trying to score points with their corporate paymasters — the Commerce Committee hearing was surprising well-informed and not nearly as angry as it could have been.
Senators, mostly Republicans, reiterated their concerns that for the US to give up its role in the IANA functions contract could invite a takeover of ICANN by unfriendly nations such as China and Russia, thereby harming internet freedom.
At one point, Strickling was asked by a senator: "If there's not a problem, what are we trying to fix here?"
His answer was one the best explanations of the political back-story of the transition that I've heard, so I'm going to quote it in full here.
There has been a problem, sir. At the end of 2012 when the world's governments got together in Dubai for the ITU WCIT — World Conference on International Telecommunications — you had around 80 countries who voted to say the ITU needs to be more involved in internet governance. These were largely countries in the developing world siding with the more authoritarian regimes.
Part of the impetus for this was the continued irritation that many governments have, that has been exploited by authoritarian countries, that the United States with its special role with ICANN is in a position to control the internet in these developing counties and to turn it off in these countries and to otherwise interfere with the ability of countries to manage their own affairs with respect to the internet.
After this [IANA transition] announcement was made the next two large international meetings at which governments came together you saw a major change in position among the developing countries. We didn't see any change in position from the authoritarian countries — and you're not, they're not going to change their views on this. But the key to succeeding in this on the global stage is to bring the rest of the world along with us, and that's what we saw at the NETmundial conference in Brazil last April where the only countries who spoke out against the multi-stakeholder model of internet governance were Russia and Cuba.
We then flash forward to the ITU plenipotentiary conference in Busan last November and again you had Russia with the same proposals it's been making for 10 years: that these functions ought to be transferred to the ITU and managed by governments. And that was beaten back by a coalition of developed and developing countries. So we've seen immediate results, or significant results, by the basis of our having been able to take this issue off the table for these countries, to get them to look at what's really best for them without this overhang of a US role that was unique among governments and which was a source of irritation to governments and was being exploited to our detriment by foreign governments.
The fact of the matter is that the role we play with respect of the IANA functions is a clerical role. It's truly stewardship. As I said before, we don't provide any oversight of the policy judgments that ICANN and the multi-stakeholder community make. We participate as a government in the Governmental Advisory Committee, and we will continue to do that in future and will be vigorous advocates for a free and open internet.
The special role we play with respect of the IANA functions is totally administrative and clerical, yet it has been exploited by other governments — authoritarian governments — to our detriment. We've taken that off to the table by announcing this transition and as we complete it we will continue to see the benefits of that through the continued adoption and support for this model by the developing world.
His views were echoed by ICANN CEO Fadi Chehade more than once during the hearing, talking about how the transition process is designed to bring on board the "middle countries", rather than already-allied nations or the fringe, minority authoritarian countries.
He cited Brazil as the key example of a government once in favor of more ITU control of the internet that is now, largely due to Chehade's outreach and its key role in the NETmundial conference, firmly in the multi-stakeholder model camp.
The entire archived hearing can be viewed here.
ICANN ditches plan to give governments more power
ICANN has quietly abandoned a plan to make it harder for its board of directors to go against the wishes of national governments.
A proposal to make a board two-thirds super-majority vote a requirement for overruling advice provided by the Governmental Advisory Committee is now "off the table", ICANN CEO Fadi Chehade told a US Senate committee hearing today.
The threshold, which would replace the existing simple majority requirement, was proposed last August as a result of talks in a board-GAC working group.
At the time, I described the proposal as a "fait accompli" — the board had even said it would use the higher threshold in votes on GAC advice in advance of the required bylaws change.
But now it's seemingly gone.
The news emerged during a hearing of the Senate Committee on Commerce, Science, and Transportation today in Washington DC, which was looking into the transition of US oversight of ICANN's IANA functions to a multi-stakeholder process.
Asked by Sen. Deb Fischer whether the threshold change was consistent with ICANN's promise to limit the power of governments in a post-US-oversight world, Chehade replied:
You are right, this would be incongruent with the stated goals [of the IANA transition]. The board has looked at that matter and has pushed it back. So it's off the table.
That came as news to me, and to others listening to the hearing.
The original plan to change the bylaws came in a board resolution last July.
If it's true that the board has since changed its mind, that discussion does not appear to have been documented in any of the published minutes of ICANN board meetings.
If the board has indeed changed its mind, it has done so with the near-unanimous blessing of the rest of the ICANN community (although I doubt the GAC was/will be happy).
The public comment period on the proposal attracted dozens of responses from community members, all quite vigorously opposed to the changes.
The ICANN report on the public comments was due October 2, so it's currently well over four months late.
UPDATE 1: An ICANN spokesperson just got in touch to say that the board decided to ditch its plan in response to the negative public comments.
UPDATE 2: Another ICANN spokesperson has found a reference to the board's U-turn in the transcript of a meeting between the ICANN board and GAC at the Los Angeles public meeting last October. A brief exchange between ICANN chair Steve Crocker and Heather Dryden, then chair of the GAC, reads:
DRYDEN: On the issue of the proposed bylaw changes to amend them to a third — two-thirds majority to reject or take a decision not consistent with the GAC's advice, are there any updates there that the Board would like to — the Board or NGPC? I think it's a Board matter? Yes?
CROCKER: Yes.
Well, you've seen the substantial reaction to the proposal.
The reaction embodies, to some extent, misunderstanding of what the purpose and the context was, but it also is very instructive to all of us that the timing of all this comes in the middle of the broader accountability question.
So it's — I think it's in everyone's interest, GAC's interest, Board's interest, and the entire community's interest, to put this on hold and come back and revisit this in a larger context, and that's our plan.
So it seems that the ICANN board did tip its hand a few months ago, but not many people, myself included, noticed.


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