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NEW YORK -- Only Miguel Cotto will know the psychological toll that his 11th-round knockout loss to Antonio Margarito took on him.
Of course, there must have been dark days and self-doubt that followed that July 2008 loss, the only one of Cotto's career.
But whatever damage was done, mentally at least, Cotto certainly appears to have gotten past it, or at least tucked it far enough into the back of his mind to carry on with business as usual.
When again faced with a rough, tough opponent, this time former titlist Joshua Clottey, Cotto didn't waver. Not even when he suffered a brutal cut over his left eye because of a third-round accidental head butt.
Cotto battled through the adversity and the blood streaming down his face to pull out a hard-fought split decision to retain his welterweight title at Madison Square Garden on Saturday night.
The outcome sent the vast majority of the crowd of 17,734 home with a smile. It was an overwhelmingly Puerto Rican crowd rooting for its favorite son, Cotto, on the eve of the National Puerto Rican Day Parade.
It was hard not to admire the determination that Cotto showed, especially when you think about the way he went out against Margarito -- taking a knee twice and resigning.
Not so against Clottey, who pressed him hard all night.
"Guts, guts, guts," Top Rank promoter Bob Arum said of Cotto. "I think that Clottey was very good, and remember, Cotto had to fight with adversity almost the entire fight because of the cut. He could have taken the easy way out because he was clearly ahead on points early on, but they worked hard to close the cut. I saw a lot of rounds he couldn't really collect himself because the blood was coming into his eye, but he proved his heart, at least to me. That was a gutty performance against a strong son of gun he couldn't really hurt."
Clottey was disgusted with the decision, threatening to retire and storming from the ring.
"I was robbed, and I want a rematch," said Clottey, who had given up an alphabet title to facilitate the fight. "They robbed me. He was running, and I was chasing him. I threw the hardest punches. People were saying I would lose a decision if it went to a decision, and I did."
Cotto (34-1, 27 KOs) is in for a megafight next. Arum has dreams of matching him in the fall with his other superstar, pound-for-pound king and junior welterweight champ Manny Pacquiao, who was ringside.
"This fight showed me that Cotto and Pacquiao is a dead-even fight," Arum said. "I think it's a very competitive fight. Cotto-Pacquiao is the fight I want to make. It's the fight I really want to make."
It certainly is possible, unless a Pacquiao-Floyd Mayweather Jr. fight materializes for the fall.
But Cotto and Arum have their minds on another fight: a rematch with Margarito, who figures to eventually return from having his license revoked in the aftermath of being caught trying to fight Shane Mosley with loaded hand wraps in January. Mosley went on to knock out Margarito, but a revenge fight for Cotto still would be big.
"A Margarito-Cotto rematch would be a huge fight," Arum said.
Said Cotto, "The Margarito fight is a possibility when he comes back after his suspension. I will take him on. But, like always, I want to fight the best, so whoever is out there and willing, I am here."
Clottey (35-3, 21 KOs), a Ghana native who lives in the Bronx, sure was willing. Cotto scored a flash knockdown at the end of the first round with a left jab, but he was unhurt. However, it set the tone for a very good, physical fight.
There was the third round, when an accidental head butt tore open a brutal cut across Cotto's left eyebrow just before the end bell rang.
There was a bit of pro wrestling in the fifth, when Cotto was lucky that referee Arthur Mercante Jr. didn't disqualify him after he body slammed Clottey to the canvas. Clottey had moved inside for a clinch, but Cotto lifted him and threw him down virtually face-first.
Clottey appeared to be in pain and was slow to get up after Mercante called time. When Clottey made it to his feet, he was favoring his right knee.
"I think I have a nerve problem," Clottey said. "It bothered me for the rest of the fight."
Cotto had a massive sixth round, trapping Clottey in his own corner and teeing off for more than a minute. He unloaded punch after punch with both hands. Although Clottey blocked many shots with a tight guard, many of them landed. Cotto finished the round having landed 35 of 95 blows (37 percent).
Many of the remaining rounds were close, and when it was over, judge Don Trella (116-111) and John McKaie (115-112) scored the bout for Cotto, while Tom Miller had it for Clottey (114-113). ESPN.com had it 116-111 for Cotto.
Clottey was incensed with the scoring.
"They robbed me," he said. "116-111, who could watch that fight and say they scored it like that?"
Said Arum, "I told him, 'Josh, you fought a great fight. It doesn't help to be a sore loser. Be a good sportsman, and we'll bring you back in a big fight. You can't criticize the result.
"I would put Clottey in with Paul Williams any day. I think Clottey will run him out of the ring. He'd certainly beat [titleholder] Andre Berto. I'd put him in with Shane Mosley also, but that's a much more difficult fight because Shane is such a good boxer."
Arum will try to soothe Clottey and will make big plans for Cotto, who, regardless of what comes next, had to be satisfied with his gutsy performance.
"I had to box with all the stuff coming out of my eye," said Cotto, who had claimed a vacant belt against Michael Jennings, a low-level opponent, at the Garden in February. "I couldn't see very well the last few rounds. He did hit me with a lot of good punches. The cut made the fight more difficult, but I felt I was winning throughout the fight."
And somewhere inside his head, he laid a lot of demons to rest.
Dan Rafael is the boxing writer for ESPN.com.
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Casa Jual is a modern 3 bedroom, 2 bathroom detached villa located at Roche Viejo in a quiet rural area, overlooking fields and next to a pine forest. It is comfortably furnished with good quality furniture & appliances. The property has a spacious lounge, dining area, fully equipped kitchen, 3 bedrooms (1 double, two twin) and two bathrooms (1 en suite). Wifi is available.
Outside there is an 8m x 4m private pool set in a large secure, lawned garden with six sun loungers. To the side of the villa is a large covered patio with table and chairs, ideal for enjoying meals al fresco. There is also a second patio to the front of the villa. The garden is sunny, secure and private and has a large lawn which surrounds it making it ideal for families. Our guests can also make use of a large brick BBQ close to the patio. The villa is 3km from a beautiful beach at Roche, where there is an excellent restaurant & summer bar overlooking the beach making it a great location for evening drinks, while enjoying the beautiful sea views.
A children's playpark, chemist, beach shop, 2 restaurants and cafe (summer only) can be found at Roche or you can walk to an excellent greengrocer/mini-market and venta all 10 minutes walk away. There is also a larger supermarket & range of shops 5 mins by car.
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A travel cot and travel high chair are provided (high chair straps to a dining chair for use) plus a children's UVA pop-up tent. There is an iron/board, cafetiere, stove top coffee maker, filter coffee maker, blender, cool box and beach umbrella. A welcome pack is provided on arrival. Dishwasher tablets and cleaning materials are provided.
The accommodation is on one level, with a few single steps. There is secure, off road parking to one side of the property.
We have a flat screen TV, CD player and iPOD speakers.
Free standing fans available in each bedroom and 3 portable heaters. Two hairdryers provided.
House towels and beach/pool towels are provided. If your stay is more than 1 week, clean bed linen will be made available by the villa's English caretaker. There is no maid service.
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|Nearest airport: Jerez/Seville 40 km
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|No pets allowed, No smoking at this property
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|Log fire, Internet access, DVD player
|Private outdoor pool (unheated)
|TV, CD player, Satellite TV, Wi-Fi available
|Kettle, Toaster, Iron, Hair dryer
|Dishwasher, Cooker, Microwave, Fridge, Freezer, Washing machine
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|Private outdoor pool (unheated), Balcony or terrace, Private garden, BBQ
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The Costa de la Luz lies to the west of Tarifa, facing the Atlantic. It's hot – in the high thirties – in August, with cooling breezes in the evening. It's warm enough to visit during the spring or autumn half-term and t-shirts can sometimes still be worn in January, making it an ideal destination for a family holiday. There is a good mixture of historic towns like Vejer and Cadiz, resorts and wonderful long stretches of surf-slapped sand.
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The villa is located in Roche Viejo, surrounded by fields and pine trees. It is a farming area and very peaceful. However, just 3km away at Roche is one of the most beautiful beaches in the area. By the beach you will also find a restaurant and summer bar. The beach is never crowded although it does get slightly busier for a few weeks at the height of the season. There are also many other beautiful beaches in the area the majority of which enjoy good surf on most days.
This area of the Costa de la Luz is very Spanish and much frequented by Spanish holidaymakers, often coming down to the coast from Madrid. There are plenty of tapas bars, ventas and restaurants, especially in the nearby towns of Conil and Novo Sancti Petri.
However, there are lots of other activites to enjoy in the area. Tennis, horseriding, go-karts and a tree-top activity centre can all be found locally and bikes can be hired in Novo Sancti Petri or Conil. Whale watching is popular down in Tarifa, along with surfing, windsurfing and kitesurfing. Water sports can also be enjoyed at Novo Sancti Petri and Sancti Petri including scuba diving and sailling. There is a sports complex at Conil and if a water park is your thing, there is one 30 minutes away by car.
There is a 27 hole golf course, designed by Severiano Ballesteros, approximately a 10-15 minute drive away. A 9 hole golf course is also to be found locally.
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CR Laine Sofa Seat Depth
Just purchased a sofa from CR Laine through local furniture retailer. I specifically selected a sofa that specified a seat depth of 21 inches since I am 5'3" and wanted to be able to sit back and have my feet touch the floor. From my readings, I had the impression that seat depth was measured from the front of the cushion to the seat back (this is a tight back sofa).
The sofa arrived and seat depth is 26". The initial feedback when I called the furniture retailer to check was the measurement is as I understood (depth of seat cushion - retailer's response based on checking with CR Laine). Now, CR Laine rep has called back a second time to state the measurement is from front of cushion to the front of the pillows. These are throw pillows that do come standard with the sofa (ie called throw pillows in their catalog).
Anyone else have experience with or knowledge of the appropriate measurements who can shed some light?
If it is a scatter back sofa, like the C.R. Laine #1300,the pillows are normally in place behind the users back and the seat depth would be measured to those pillows.
If there are just 2 decorative throw pillows, as on their #1200, the depth would be measured to the tight back.
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Thank you for the reply, Furnone. I will have to check their catalog again to see if it explains that and I missed it. I ordered the #7520 sofa. With what you are saying, if I had ordered the #8520 sofa I would have gotten exactly what I wanted. Measurements aren't apples to apples on their product.
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Ward places title on the line against Dawson
BOXING BABESThese babes can't get enough ringside action.
I cannot identify what Chad Dawson's greatest attribute as a fighter is yet because I have not fought him, so that remains to be seen.
There is not one thing that's dangerous about him: He is a good, all-around fighter. His credentials speak for themselves, and when you go into a megafight or a championship fight, you prepare for the best and you prepare for everything. I'm not locked in for one thing; we are prepared for the best Chad Dawson on Sept. 8.
With every opponent and every fight, there are multiple things that you prepare for. And we are prepared for the best of Chad Dawson. We are prepared for anything and everything. If you prepare for anything else than that, you are selling yourself short.
This camp is no different than my past training camps. It's not a cliche; it's the way it is. I don't pick certain camps that I go hard in; I'm always training to the maximum. I feel like every fight, I'm in the best shape of my life. That's the way I think a champion is supposed to prepare. I respect the game and the game has always respected me, and nothing is different in this training camp.
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I was wondering if we could also post dolls we have obtained that were handmade as well as conversations about those we have made or want to make. Maybe the forum would pick up some. For example, here is a doll that is handmade...no tags or markings of any kind. Yes, it is a monkey and has on pink boots and looks like he is celebrating festival.
twomonths, that is so different.. I wonder where it was made and by whom.. I love to see different dolls. I can remember when I was little we use to have what they called then, and I might add was about 1-------- years ago.. they called them Bed Dolls and they had huge dresses on and they would sit on your pillow on your bed after it was made.. most had dress made with lots of ruffels and lace. bodys were made out of cloth but the hands and feet and heads were china.. they had big hats and long hair..
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Match all hardware in a single room. You can mix oil-rubbed bronze hardware and nickel throughout your home without blending both finishes in a single room. For example, you could install oil-rubbed bronze hardware throughout the kitchen and the nickel hardware throughout the living room.
Mix oil-rubbed bronze and nickel hardware in a single room. Unify the contrasting finishes in rooms where there is a visual transition. For example, install outlet and light switch covers in oil rubbed bronze and ceiling fixtures in nickel. This could work well if you have crown molding to create a visual divide between the walls and the ceiling.
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Please vote on my great room furniture arrangement
Hi all,
I am back again, this time with two of my favourite furniture arrangements after having tried out multiple locations for the fireplace, TV, built-ins etc. Thanks to the many people on GW who have given their opinion on my many attempts. Please let me know what you think of this great room set-up. I would love to know which furniture arrangement you think is best of the two options, and what your think of the built-ins. Both options have fireplace and built-ins as per the elevation picture below. The elevation picture shows tinted glass on the side opposite the TV for concealing audio components, and other things. It seems to us to balance the TV side.
Elevation picture:
Here is the furniture arranged in an L shape. I was a little unsure if the extra chair was in the right spot or perhaps should be eliminated.
Here is the version with two couches parallel to the fireplace.
Lastly, here is an out dated floor plan of the open concept space that is around the great room. The kitchen in particular is very different from what is shown. Also, kindly ignore the shading.
So, I would love your vote on whether you like the L shaped arrangement or the one with two couches parallel to the fireplace. Also, any tweaks, comments or changes you would make to the built-ins or any other feature are most welcome.
Thanks in advance!
This post was edited by OntarioMom on Sat, Feb 1, 14 at 14:32
Depending on how many people and how often TV is viewed, I would prefer with parallel couches because:
tv would be easily viewable from both chairs, if you mostly have two people watching, but couch viewing wouldn't be ideal except from farthest couch, right side. if you have a larger family watching tv together, then best viewing is pretty much limited to 3 people in comfort. BUT, if people like to lie on the couches to watch, it would work fine to arrange this way - 4 people, two lying down, two in chairs.
In the L view, the best tv watching would be on the couch facing the fireplace, but 3 people in a row isn't comfortable for most. So, say 2 people at each end and one person in the chair. Or two lying down and one in the chair. Best viewing for 3 people only.
In both views, the couch against the wall wouldn't be ideal for viewing tv, unless lying down.
A vote for the two-sofas-plus-two-chairs arrangement to allow for lots of folks in the seating area.
Perhaps consider adding swivels to the two chairs -- for maximum flexibility ....OR if you choose two chairs that COULD be used as "host chairs" in the dining room during larger dinner parties -- again -- for more flexibility ....
OR look for two "host chairs" that could be used in a bedroom (either together or in different rooms) and then moved to the dining room for larger dinner parties.
Just a thought!
Good questions and thoughts ellen and Olychick, I appreciate your votes.
TV viewing will not be the main priority in this room. Conversation and fireplace is the main priority in the great room. Mostly 2-3 max would watch TV here at a time. The kids have a rec room downstairs with game system etc that will be the go to room if a crowd wanted to watch TV. We will put the TV on an arm that can be angled to accommodate seating when needed.
I think I would prefer to watch TV while seated, but some members of the family would be happy for the lying down couch spot.
Do either of you have an opinion on the elevation picture showing the built-ins? Any tweaks or changes here.
Hi Carol-
I vote for option 2.
Traditionally we have always lived with and thought of only option 1 but as we walked through our build last night we are striving for option 2. I think the parallel seating will flow best for multi-purpose use. If TV is the main thing, you've got the 2 chairs and the one far couch and then the other someone could lay on. Many times the kids are watching and they want me by them but I am on the computer or reading and I could easy take that other couch.
Are you mounting the TV on the back wall or using it on a stand? I am just curious as we haven't yet decided what we are doing.
@Zen4d: Thanks for those insights. I hadn't specifically thought about how the parallel seating would be perfect for conversations and better than the L.
@ Olychick: Thanks for letting me know you think the built-ins work. We spent just forever thinking through how to solve the TV/fireplace issue.
@Autumn: Thanks again for your inspiration photo that lead to solution number 2 (no surprise you like it best). We will be putting our TV on the wall through the back of the cabinet so it can be on an arm and then directed to different seating as needed.
Here is an update of the elevation picture with a closer approximation of the cabinet colour, wood mantel and a closer match with the planned wall colour.
Anymore comments or votes?
This post was edited by OntarioMom on Sat, Feb 1, 14 at 23:28
I prefer the L. I had "dueling sofas" as you show for several years in my old house. When I staged it to see it was the first thing people suggested I change; sofas facing each other were deemed kind of ... confrontational? FWIW, I pass that along.
In your case, what I like about the L is the way the back of one sofa sort of becomes a room divider and makes the space cozier IMHO.
So are you talking smoked glass to the left of the fpl? I think the idea is great; tvs always look so imbalanced to me. Is the house modern? If not maybe you'd prefer some other material that would read dark like the TV; antique mirror?
Could you squeeze in an extra chair next to the one you show in the 1st setup? Maybe you could push the one that is there down towards the media center. Or, you could have them side by side instead of at an angle.
Maybe like this? But with smaller chairs if you need, and obviously everything pulled in for the smaller scale.
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For conversations, I prefer an L shaped arrangement as two sofas across from each other can feel more confrontational. I like akt's suggestion above with extra seating. I also like having extra smaller chairs that are easy to move around for flexibility in a conversational cluster...depending on how many guests one has.
I really like the L shaped with 2 chairs that Aktillery just posted. I think there's room for a 2nd chair in your room with the sofas perpendicular. If you Google Phoebe Howard rooms, I really think she does a beautiful job of creating seating areas with 2 sofas and 2 chairs; I've taken inspiration for my new LR from her.
Love the idea of balancing the tv with dark on the other side!!!
I like both configurations, agreeing that with #1 you could fit two chairs in the space. With #2, I'd move the chairs closer together so they're a set.
Since you'll have the same furniture pieces either way, just play around with it when the furniture arrives, and you'll probably instantly know what feels right in your room. This is what I'm going to do with the two sofas and two chairs I'm purchasing. I have in mind the configuration aktillery posted above, yet I may choose to change things up now and then.
What TV arm are you using? Have you researched which brand and model is best? I think I'll need one also.
I love a room with 2 couches facing each other and have always wanted to do that but I have no room that would work. Great for entertaining and looks so grand because you have the space!
I would try putting just one side table between the two chairs and pull them together. This is a pic of my family room, the two leather chairs are reclining swivels as this is our main tv room. But these 2chairs are always where guests go first :D.
This post was edited by bocron on Sun, Feb 2, 14 at 9:43
Thanks everyone for your thoughts!
@Mtnr: Thanks for your info. Our house will not be modern. It will be more transitional leaning slightly towards traditional. I love the idea of antique mirror!!!
@Aktillery: Thanks for the new room arrangement idea. I will draw it out and see how it works. The room on the fireplace wall, once you take out both staircase and walkway is only 12 feet 7.5 inches. We have loads of length on the window wall to work with (@ 20 feet depending on how long the dining room table is).
@Annie: Thanks for returning with some more good thoughts and your vote. We had thought those two chairs would be reclining chairs so less movable. However, we will think about some movable chairs in our small living room at the front of the house that can be
moved into the great room when there is a crowd.
@Jackson: I am very glad you like the idea of balancing the non TV side with a dark glass cabinet. That idea just came to me. However, I have never seen it done or see anyone propose it before so I hope it will look good in real life. Thanks for your vote on Aktillery's room suggestion. I will Google Phoebe Howard right away for more ideas!
@jujubean. Thanks for your input. The TV purchase is DH's job. However, it will be a LCD to minimize glare issues. I believe he decided on a 42 inch will is not that large compared to most new TVs. I did not want too large here as I don't want the TV to overpower the room. I will ask him what brand when he gets home.
It is true that we can play with the furniture after it has arrived. The only trick is we need to be precise with the location of any floor plugs.
@bocron. Thanks for posting your room arrangement. Those reclining chairs look very comfy. Your room looks to be a good size to me, but more square than our room (usable space in ours is 12 feet 7.5 inches by around 20 feet). We will play with the idea of a table between the two chairs.
@Everyone: One thing I do like about layout 2 (couches parallel) is the direct opening between the dining room and the great room. I see walking in right in between the two chairs to the great room from the dining room. I like that we can see the fireplace without any obstacles with layout 2. Other than that I do like the idea of having a couch directly facing the fireplace (version 1 L shape or with Aktillery version).
I do feel we need to decide to work out the best placement of floor plugs. Maybe we can find floor plug spots that work for any of the proposed arrangements. Any thoughts on floor plug locations?
Your two couch facing option is what I have in our main family room. The chairs belong one to me-swivel, down rocker and one to DH-his recliner. Our kids lay on the couches when they join us. I will say that if you put the TV on one of those telescoping arms people occupying the "far" couch will have a good angle to view the TV but those on "near" couch will lose their view. But you can adjust it so well that most will be fine. For parties/family time everyone can join in conversation together. It is great.
@bebetokids: Thanks for sharing what works for your family and for your vote and insight.
@Nusaboutplants: Thanks for voting. Flow is important and I agree subjective.
Here is a drawing of Aktillery's version that others liked too. I am unsure of what if any additional end tables I would need for this layout. While I quite like this arrangement, there is quite a bit of walking from kitchen and dining room to enter the great room. Have I got the arrangement right Aktillery?
@Jujubean: Sorry we have not researched the arms for the TVs yet. DH said all he found out so far is the arm takes up about 4 inches of depth when folded into wall.
Lets call this layout 3. Anyone want to change their vote for this one instead? Anyone see any issues with this layout or anything they would tweak.
I like it! I think if you can scoot the 2 chairs a bit toward the fireplace you'll have enough room to slip through to enter the room between the sofa and chairs. I'd probably look for a small round "martini" table to go between the chairs and add a floor lamp there as well.
Carol-I am on the edge! I think #3. I like that you essentially have 2 conversation groupings, or one more geared for TV and the 2 chairs for conversation if the case may be. I am so glad you've laid all this out - I think I'll just keep watching your thread and use yours-LOL! I am wishing our stairs were turned like yours are. It does give the room a 'break'.
Hi Autumn,
Yes you and I should plan this together. Is your dining room in the same spot as mine too? I do like version 3, but it does seem a long way to enter from kitchen or dining room. If I move the chairs closer to the fireplace, then the TV is not able to be viewed by those in the chairs. I may try to arrange lighting, floor plugs etc for both arrangements (version 2 and 3) and see where we go from there.
For what it is worth the ID at the furniture shop did not like version 3 (too closed in and too crowded she said). She would sell me as much furniture either way (version 2 and 3 uses same amount of furniture) so her answer seemed honest.
So, you said your DH was not going for the third built in (the one opposite side of the TV). Will you just have the fireplace and TV -- so essentially 2 sections? Did you show him the balance with the dark glass on non TV side?
Are you getting custom cabinets for these built-ins? that will be our next puzzle to see if we can do RTA assemble cabinet boxes. We have a custom cabinet door company nearby so that would be where we get the doors.
Thanks for your suggestions and ideas to finish off layout 3.
Thanks for your vote. I agree with you the L shape and also version 3 does have a sofa as a barrier between the dining room and the great room. Some like that kind of room divider though.
I agree on the barrier and sometimes I think I would like it and sometimes no. What I DO like is what the ID said - same amount of furniture so essentially you have 2 potential layouts that you can use as you see fit and THAT is awesome.
Here is ours - so our kitchen is where your dining room is. We have about 8' from the perimeter of the island and where I think the back of the couch will be. Plenty of space there. We are discussing furniture needs for the future. Our current couch is rather long - 7.5 feet... I think if we weren't doing a whole house at once I would have pursued RTA but it's too overwhelming. We purchased 2 36" (with filers to accommodate the depth of the stone) wide vanity height cabinets from the KD. It was about $900 for the 2 of them.
I showed him the balance - all he sees is $ signs! So yes for now 2 sections. :( He said my 'visions' are more than we can afford. Hahaha - not that he's off base there.
We wil likely end up with a hybrid similar to this (of course we don't have the windows and we DO have a hearth). He is adamant about not having a shelf or anything above the TV. We are still in negotiations....lol. :)
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Hi Autumn,
Thanks for your floor plan. It helps to visualize. You got a good price on your cabinets. In one of your drywall pictures, you do show arches on each side. Will you just have wall for now to the left of the fireplace or will you buy a shelf like in the picture above?
We will also have a hearth, I think. I really like raised fireplaces which I associate with a hearth (raised fireplaces can be seen from a great distance away). However, I can see from your picture above (and others I've seen) that you can raise a fireplace without a hearth too.
Just to clarify the ID at the furniture store did not like the U arrangement (layout 3 with L and two chairs facing window). She said it was too closed in. It was my thought to plan the electrical to accommodate either of the layouts, not hers. This ID really liked the parallel couch arrangement. If you meet with your ID at some point in the future, can you ask her opinion on the different layouts that you are considering and report back (please)?
BTW you have 1 foot more width in your great room than we do (as we lose width to the staircase). We both lose 3 feet so to speak for a walkway. So you have 13 1/2 feet to work with and we have 12 feet 7. 5 inches. So you may be able to do the U Shape easier than we can.
Sure Carol-meeting ID at the house tomorrow to talk paint. We are going to stick with current furniture for a while (couch, love seat and one large chair-too large) but I will see what she has to say anyhow
I understood your ID was concerned with crowding for #3-I was trying to convey that since it's the same furniture pieces you could use either layout if you so choose. So maybe #2 is your standard but if say your were having a gathering or whatnot and you felt like switching it up your could do #3.
We do have both arches but dh insists that the window side will be TV and no shelf. Left side will be cabinet and one shelf. Crown will not encompass the built ins and fireplace, just the mantle as in pic 2. :(
ID agrees with me on balance but dh is insisting it will be fine and not worth the extra cost. We will all be at the house together tomorrow...hoping to sway him. But he is right when it comes to budget. We still have closet organization to think about as well and several non-exciting but essential items were over budget. :(
I am not tying to hijack your thread, we do have similar layouts and 'opportunities' to ponder. :)
Ontariomom, I really enjoyed your thread here as I am in a similar bind with my new living room or I should say maybe a bit closer to Autumns bind in that really I need all new furniture. My biggest problem is the need for floating furniture but the desire to have a reading chair with a lamp (and electric near) where I can also see the TV (where your fireplace is) but also where I don't completely block the pool view.
Looking forward to pictures when you are done!
@jterrilynn: We too will be buying new furniture for this great room. Is your project a reno or already built? If you have a basement or crawl space below can you put in a floor plug for the reading lamps to avoid cords going across the room? Do you have a floor plan you want to post for ideas.
@Autumn: you are not hijacking this thread at all. It is helpful to work through the layout with others who have similar room sizes and fireplace locations.
Ontariomom, Mine is a downsize remodel in Florida so no basement. Oddly I had an off wall floor plug in my last house and never used it once in thirteen and a half years. However, that plug was in a strange place on the floor between entries where one could not really put furniture due to walkway flow. In this house I would love to have that weird floor plug.
I vote for option 1 and then option 2. We have been through the floor outlet ordeal 2 times now in two different homes. I would wait until your furniture is where you want it and then install outlets, Just don't get new furniture like I did and then have to cover one of the outlets like I did. In our newest home, we lived with our furniture arrangement for a couple months and just now installed them. The previous owner had one in the middle of the floor which did not work for any furniture arrangement I could think of!
I would start with the two sofas, put them in the room and see how it feels. Then order one or two chairs depending on what layout you choose. I do like L arrangements and having a floating sofa like option 1 looks great with a sofa table behind it.
To my eye, a "barrier" between the two areas of the room is desirable.
The two areas serve different functions. It seems to me that one reason we have so many open floor plans is to have the light, volume and openness of a very large house, but squeezed into a more normal footprint. But at the end of the day, you want to watch TV in a spot that feels cozy and protected. An L does that. Face off does not.
Only my opinion of course.
thanks for your input. Yes deciding on floor plugs is a pain. I can't imagine why your previous owners put one in the middle of the room (maybe that was a random builder decision). We have selected our furniture, but not ordered it yet. Perhaps we will ask the electricians to leave quite a bit of wire on the floor plug at rough in so we can tweak the location if needed (DH could cut the hole in the sub floor when things are finalized. We will be finishing our basement right away though so can't wait forever. We are living in the house as it is being constructed (or re-constructed as it is a gut/addition) and have been trying out different arrangements.
Thanks for your input. I think that trying out different couch spots is going to be important for me as certain spots may feel cozier than others.


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