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neuropathy please reply!Hello,If I was infected 5 years ago could i get neuropathy now. I have been having strange sensations in my feet and legs like pins and needels. This is really at its worse when I sit still when I walk I seem to forget about it and it goes....
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University of Minnesota, School of MedicineThis particular Body forum is exclusively for discussion of the side effects of HIV therapy (antiretroviral medications). Read more »
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DNCB (Dinitrochlorobenzene)...It has been used to treat skin lesions caused by Kaposi's sarcoma (KS). Advocates of DNCB claimed that it could clear up all symptoms of HIV disease, except for pneumocystis pneumonia (PCP). DNCB's supporters claimed that antiretroviral drugs... Read more »
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Posted by Anonymous, 1 Reply...What are the main symptoms to HIV? At the moment I am feeling really tired and weak with a bit of a headache. My legs and shoulders are really Read more »
Tested Once - ARS related symptoms?
Posted by bbny, 2 Replies...stomach. I can't see any differences, but these areas are mildly tender when touched. I do have a painless cough that has remained for the past month (I can't remember if I had it before that encounter) but it came about around the same time or... Read more »
I had hiv symptoms for the last two years and still..............
Posted by testednegative...was very vulgar and unhygienic and considered anal sex very unattractive. My sexual experience involved foreplay and handjobs mainly. Although i was educated about hiv and aids i was overconfident and thought that those were confined to ppl of... Read more »
Muscle Twitches
Posted by Anonymous, 5 Replies...exposure and I have started experiecing muscle fasciculations (twitches) all over (mainly in the limbs). Is this is any way a symptom of HIV infection? Does peripheral neuropathy ever present itself in this way in HIV recently infected... Read more »
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Many people don't know how powerful the human mind and body actually are. Did you know that we have the ability to think our bodies into doing something we want (or don't want). Originally from Yehia Shahen, we wanted to share with you these

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Exodus 13:17-15:19 One of my favorite expressions is, "The victory is ours, and the battle is the Lord's." There have been many trials in my life, as there are in all of our lives. Jesus said that in the world we would have tribulation, but His exhortation was to be of good cheer, for He has overcome the world. James tells us to count it all joy when we have trials because these trials will form patience and other character traits of God in us. read more
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The Fear of the Lord
Psalm 25:12-22 There are many benefits that come to those who fear the Lord. This passage lists only a few of them. What does it mean to fear the Lord? The fear of the Lord is an awesome respect that causes us to honor and worship the Lord with all of our being. When we fear the Lord, we will desire to walk in His ways. The good news is that all those who fear the Lord will be taught the ways of God. read more
Lifting Up Your Soul
Psalm 25:1-11 Yesterday's reading talked about lifting up our heads and hearts to the Lord. We discovered that the spirit of man represents the holy of holies in the temple of God. We are now the temple of the Holy Spirit. The soul (mind, will and emotions) of man represents the inner court of our temple. The body represents the outer court of the temple, and the gates to that temple are our five senses. When Jesus died on the cross and gave His spirit into the hands of the Father, the veil of the temple was rent in two. The mercy seat of God now became available to not only the high priest, but to all who would believe and receive Jesus as their Lord and Savior. read more
Lift Up Your Head and Hearts
Psalm 24:1-10 This psalm has special meaning to me because it is one of the psalms I memorized when I was in grammar school. The first thing we did each morning in school was pray the Lord's Prayer together, read a psalm and work on memorizing it, pledge allegiance to the flag and sing the national anthem. Can you imagine the stir this would cause in public schools today if this was done? It is illogical that God and country have been removed from our children's education when education has its roots in Christianity. The first schools that existed in our country were church schools. How I pray that one day we will be able to once again have freedom of speech that includes praying aloud in public schools. Until that time we as parents can teach our children the importance of honor for country and the value of the Word of God. We need to exhort our children to memorize Scriptures because the Word that is hidden in children's hearts at a young age will be with them always. I actually paid my boys to learn Proverbs. They were given $1 for every verse in Proverbs they memorized. When our Russian son took this on as a challenge, he just about broke me. read more
Unforgiveness: A Luxury No One Can Afford
Matthew 18:23-19:12 In this passage in Matthew, Jesus tells the story of the servant who had been forgiven all his debt by his master, but this servant was unwilling to forgive another the debt he was owed. The conclusion to this story is the following statement: "And his lord was wroth, and delivered him to the tormentors, till he should pay all that was due unto him. So likewise shall my heavenly Father do also unto ye, if you from ye hearts forgive not every one his brother their trespasses" (Matt. 18:34-35, KJV). read more
The Value of a Prayer Partner
Matthew 18:1-22 It has been my privilege over my fifty-plus years as a Christian to always have a prayer partner. There are so many advantages in having a prayer partner. This passage in Matthew gives two very important reasons for us to pray with others. Jesus tells us, "Again I say unto you, that if two of you shall agree on earth as touching any thing that they shall ask, it shall be done for them of my Father which is in heaven. For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them" (Matt. 18:19-20, KJV). read more
Why Have You Forsaken Me?
Psalm 22:1-18 Some of the most traumatic feelings a person can experience is being abandoned. Abandonment rocks our emotions with feelings of insecurity, fear, doubt, loneliness, failure, rejection, grief, sorrow and unworthiness, just to name a few. I've never experienced abandonment, but I know people who have. I know a fifty-year-old man who is still being healed emotionally of the abandonment he experienced as a young boy. Both his mother and father were alcoholics, and they would leave their two young boys on the beach alone at night while they partied at the bars. Later this man's father killed his mother. Imagine the trauma of abandonment he felt. read more
God Meant It for Good
Genesis 50:1-Exodus 2:10 Throughout our lives circumstances and situations occur that we just do not understand. For example, I have been praying this week for two dear saints of the Lord who have been stricken with cancer. They both love the Lord with all of their hearts, and yet they are facing a severe test of faith. Why would God allow such a thing to occur? I often see how we blame God for our troubles, but we have to remember the "trouble maker" is not God. The "trouble maker" is Satan, and his plan is to destroy us. God's plan is to give us life and give it to us more abundantly. My husband had two heart attacks, and during that time, he held on to the scripture in Jeremiah 29:11: "For I know the thoughts that I think toward you, saith the Lord, thoughts of peace, and not of evil, to give you an expected end" (KJV). read more
Our Heritage
Genesis 48:1-49:33 Just recently I had the joy of discovering the genealogy of my family on the side of my maternal grandfather. I had the history of my father back to the 1600s, but I had no knowledge of the ancestry of my mother. Some people are really into their heritage, and I'm thankful for people who keep records and research genealogies, because it is rewarding to know our heritage. read more
Matthew 15:1-28 Remember the song from Fiddler on the Roof called "Tradition"? We all have our traditions. I recall one Christmas hosting my older sister and her family from Seattle. She and her family have their special Christmas traditions, and so does our family. We had a time trying to fit in both family traditions on Christmas day. Traditions are not bad, but they can become a hindrance to God's Word. In fact, if we hold to our religious traditions more than we hold to God's Word, we can make the Word of God have no effect in our lives. read more
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Loud neigbors
My neigbors play loud music with the bass turned all the way up every weekend. I have tried everything. Talking to my neigbors, calling the police, talking to the landlord. Nothing has worked. The police won't do anything because the noise ordinance says they have to hear the noise from 50ft. I lived directly upstairs from them and the bass shakes my floors and windows and night, and once my printer fell from the shelf it was at on my desk and broke. I am at my wits end and I can't continue to go without sleep. It is affecting me at work. My landlord has no spine whatsoever, so I was thinking of telling him that if I have to pay for a hotel room everytime I need to get sleep for work the next day, that I will just deduct it from his rent. I don't know if that will work, or if there are legal ways to make it work. If anyone has any ideas please let me know.
Move. Obviously if you have tried everything and the landlord doesn't do anything this is your best option. I would write the landlord a letter that you are giving your notice and why. I wouldn't put it in writing but I would mention to the landlord that potential tenants asking about the apartment would be notified of the noise problem that still isn't fixed.
Good luck! Have you politely asked them to turn it down? Knock on their door when its loud and ask them to come up so they can see what its like in your unit.
As far as the law, every state has extreamly different laws for this type of problem. Most states have free landlord/ tenant advice. Look them up and ask for suggestions.
If the police can't hear the music from 50 feet away, I seriously doubt anything was shaking or falling.
Did the police come in your apartment and hear it, and see things shaking? If it was so loud, 50 foot rule or not, they have to write a report about the call. Get a copy of the police report or reports and present them to your landlord.
Have you looked at your lease to see what the policy is on noise? (My lease contains clauses about excessive noise being prohibited and that tenants are entitled to the quiet enjoyment of their apartment.) If there is such a clause, I would put your complaint in writing to the landlord and include a copy of the lease with the pertinent portion highlighted. I would keep the letter on a polite, but assertive level. I had to do this myself in dealing with a loud neighbor who is now being evicted. Good luck!
good to hear some people have been successful in their struggle against these animals.
in a perfect world, needmysleep, you'd be within your rights to line those a-holes against a wall and greet them with a lead enema, alas, we don't live in that world.
i have the same issue with my neighbors and talking to them has helped a little, at least during the week they're relatively quiet. but then they always have the option of going back on their promises, so effectively it's the quiet ones that are always at the mercy of loud maniacs.
a permanents solution? genetic engineering maybe?


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Messenger From Eden Biosystems?
Has anyone tried
or know more about how it works?
Sounds like magic, too good to be true--an organic, nontoxic plant protein that makes plants resistent to pests and diseases, and also makes them grow and flower better!
Of course I'm ordering this first thing tomorrow.
There have been a few others asking about Messenger throughout these Forums. So far no one has indicated trying it or posted any observations one way or the other. To date the only glowing reports about Messenger have been provided by the patent holder. EPA has approved Messenger. So, it appears that some of us will have to shell out the bucks, follow the label directions and compare notes.
I just read some of the scientific literature on this - it's like a vaccine because the protein in Messenger is actually a toxin made by the bacteria that cause fire blight. So the plant's immune system is turned on. Resistance to the active ingredient shouldn't develop in pests, because they are not directly exposed to it.
To my mind, it would be most useful as a disease preventative for things like fire blight. It's interesting that the company marketing it is pushing it as a general growth enhancer. I have no doubt it works as that - but it does it by putting the plant's defenses on alert. I suspect that it might not be as useful for that in the long term - you're putting the plant under constant stress.
I agree with you Anne, and think that they shouldn't be advertizing it as a growth enhancer. One thing one should keeo in mind is that this vaccine is useful for only several deseases but not all. Also, treatments should be renewed every several weeks.
Annebert, interesting. Where can I find this literature?
Naz, my results have been most amazing on the Hoyas. Days after the first application I saw a new sprout--from the ground--on cumingiana. A few days after the second application a small Nummulariodes had nine peduncles, which are now opening. (Sps?) Also have new growth and/or peduncles on five others.
Obviously, they must have been capable of blooming and growing anyway. This stuff seems to push them in some way.
Sprayed it on everything but fuzzy leaved gesneriads and my several species of Cyperus. First used it six weeks ago, then followed up two weeks later. Also used it in the water for everything those two times.
Would have followed up this weekend, but I've noticed in the last week that everything is slowing down because of less light, cooler temperatures, as the days grow shorter and shorter. Now I'm thinking that I won't use it again until after the days start growing longer again, because the instructions say to use it on plants that "are actively growing."
The only active ingredient is the harpin protein (5%).
*Any other thoughts out there?*
well I can post as to how I see Messenger ... I've used it a few times since labor day.. and I've used it on everything I have.. plumerias.. mandavillas .. passafloras.. Brugmansias..roses [ no late season fungal problems this year at all here... but that's suposed to the the arena it works best in..
what I've found is that everything gets to looking like you'd imagined it to be looking .. leaves and such are healthy.. fungus free.. hearty.. resilant to wilt from underwatering.. it seems to promote flowering.. length of bloom time and size as well..
the comment that the trigger of desease resistant might be detrimental over a long time is a bit.. well let me say it is similar to vaccinations.. you aren't any more likely to contract a desease you are vaccinated aganst after you've been vaccinated for years. Gordon
I'm using it and I LOVE it. Cuttings rooted faster when treated with it as compared to those that were not treated. Hoya blooms spurs swelled, bloomed and more bloom spurs are being produced. After treating the Amaryliss they produced bloom stalks and bloomed in ten days!!! Coincidence? Maybe but don't think so. I'm finding the same results as Gordon.
I have no issues with it being called a growth enhancer as it appears that it in fact does stimulates active growth. But the Eden site lists many benefits and it's not being soley marketed as a growth enhancer. Just one of many benefits of using their product. In fact it is registered with the EPA as a biopesticide.
Here is a link to the label:
The harpin protein in Messenger is made from e-coli bacterium, not the naturally occurring strain that is found in fire blight as explained by the EPA:
"In nature, Harpin is produced by Erwinia amylovora, a bacterium that causes the disease fire blight in apples and pears. A weakened strain of Escherichia coli was modified to produce Harpin on a commercial scale. Commercially produced Harpin protein is identical to the protein that occurs in nature. E. coli K-12 is considered to be a non-pathogenic, nutritionally deficient bacterium which is unable to grow in the environment. Harpin is concentrated from the growth medium of the genetically modified E. coli, and the bacterial cells are killed and removed from the marketed product."
Garden's Alive sells a product that also contains the "harpin" protein. They don't say how much it contains tho. Thier product called Green Guard is not registered with the EPA as a biopesticide so they can call it just about anything they want (except a pesticide). They are actively marketing this as a plant growth enhancer and say this product "acts like a plant hormone, fungicide and fertilizer all in one". There is no MSDS or Product label available on the site.
You can read more below....
Here is a link that might be useful: EPA on Harpin protein
A surprising co-incidence, I happened to have another window still open after reading up on Messenger when I came here. Initially I saw a write-up in Fine Gardening.
The site recommends frequent applications at 14 - 21 day intervals. The mix should end up costing between $3 - 5/ gallon after mixing per directions if buying in small quantities.
Here is a link that might be useful: Messenger
True that it's far more expensive than anything I usually buy, but I find it goes a very long way as a foliar application. 3 quarts will treat eveything I have (about 75 plants of various sizes) for about 5 cents per plant. I can treat just the cuttings and small starts (25, 4" pots) with one pint of solution.
Garden's Alive! carries the same hormone under the name Green Guard. The order is for 3 separate packets, each making 3 gallons for $19.95, but they don't say how far an application will go. You have to toss the opened packet after 3 weeks.
Sorry - I didn't notice that someone had already posted that info.
But anyway, Eden gets $9.98 for 3 gallons, so GA is cheaper...BUT if you can't use 3 gallons at a time, Eden would be more cost effective. Anyone know how far a gallon goes?
I just bought Messenger today from the feed store of all places. It was $20.00 for a pack with 3 smaller packages in it. Each one makes 1-3 gallons. So it sounds like it is just about the same price as Garden's Alive.
I havn't tried it yet, but look forward to it. My husband got to hear about this product several years before it came out and I've been dying to see the results ever since. I'm really hoping it will help with my blackspot.
I'm hoping that madspinner bought one of the of the 3 pack clamshells (each clamshell has 3 smaller packs of the product). The 3 pack spceial makes 9 gallons and sells on the manufacturer's web site for $20. If not, well madspinner really did pay too much!!
I would be interested to know how the 'weakened' strain of Escherichia coli was modified to produce the harpin protein. I checked the Epa link and several others and could find no reference to the actual process. Anybody know or care to take a guess? Is this considered organic?
Doubt you will find any links to the actual process. The genetic modification is probably trade secret.
It is a matter of selection, not much a secret, but likely is a way of saying non-infectious strain and making it sound like they did some real work. They may have just used some poop to culture it.
E. coli inhabits your digestive system acting to produce some of the B complex vitamins for you to absorb as its rent for the coziness of your bowels. Every time I hear good old E. coli blamed for illess it pains me when they omit the "infectious strain" part.
Either way, it is organic.
A little more complicated than just culturing some random poop, oh cynical one, LOL!
From what i can find online and greatly simplified:
Harpin is a product of the (HrpN) gene found in the bacteria Erwinia amylovora (that causes fireblight in the rose family) is cloned and inserted into cultured E. coli K-12 (a strain dies too quickly to become pathenogenic in humans). When applied to plants in certain concentrations it increases growth,
increases disease resistance and seems to ward off insect attacks in many plants.
Here is a link that might be useful: Cornell University Researchers and EdenBioscience
Rosa, I'm not clear on this last post so I checked the link you provided and saw nothing about cloning...in post above, dated Feb. 20, you describe the creation of harpin very differently. Have you found new information, if so would you kindly provide a link? Thanks.
I did read somewhere in my research that Eden has applied to have Messenger certified for organic production. If this is true, I doubt that cloning is part of the process. I did e-mail Eden and the OMRI, will post if I recieve any response.
Actually the post of Feb 20th was directly from the EPA website. Not my words at all.
Cloning is nothing more than replication of an exact copy of the original. Not sure what definition of organic you're using. Perhaps I shouild have used the word replicated instead? As Alan already mentioned, it's organic either way.
Link below. Scroll to results section.
Here is a link that might be useful: Harpin gene research
Thank you Rosa for the link. Yes, I understood the Feb. post was from the Epa.
And you are right, cloning is perfectly fine in organic agriculture, depending upon how it is done. Because my farm is certiied organic my definition of orgainc is now determined by the USDA. No offense to Alan, but I'll wait until the OMRI determines that the process of producing harpin meets their standards. Something may be biologically orgainc and still not meeet their requirements.
I got an e-mail today from Zhongmin Wei the VP of Eden Bioscience Corp. He states that, " the gene modification
(used to produce the harpin protein) will not occur in nature or by nature." Because of this process the OMRI does not consider it acceptable for organic application. He did add a yet to this. It sounds like they may be trying to come up with a process of producing harpin that would be acceptable for organic applicaitons. I look forward to this.
I don't understand why you're saying madspinner got robbed. The 9-gallon pack (that's *up to* 9 gallons) at eden is $19.98 +shipping. Madspinner got it for $20 and no shipping.
Well, hopefully it's similar to this one:
" 3 x 0.25 oz single dose packets of Messenger®. Each packet makes 3 gallons of spray solution"
Which is fundamentally the same as the Green Guard that I bought from Gardens Alive! Now I'm trying to figure out when the best time to use it will be - on my slow starting seedlings (what with our cool weather, always a problem) - but how will I use up three gallons - or after things heat up? Hmm.
Sounds like it. Each 0.25 oz. packet makes one gallon according to the instructions from Eden.
The first time I treated all my plants with one gallon in a a sprayer.
Now I just mix smaller quantities when I need it since you have to use it within 4 hours of mixing. 1/8 teaspon = 2 cups of solution. This way I can treat only what I need, a couple of plants, some cuttings, seedlings. Don't worry you'll find a way to use it when you see how well it works!!
I bought enough to give it more than a fair try. Package directions specific in that contents should be used same day as opening & mixed product within 4 hours. Any discussion on whether that is a way to get you to buy more product or if there might be a reason it "loses its fizz"?
"without any noticeable difference in results" indicates you observed results after using the product? Your comments, please?
I have around 100 trees & shrubs in training for bonsai. I intend to use the product on them. Since I am so intimately familiar with the growth habits of the individual plants, I think I will have a good feel by summer's end for the effectiveness (or lack of? - let's hope not) of the product.
If there is still interest in this thread come Autumn, I'll be happy to add my observations.
Sorry if I was unclear.
What I meant to say was that I don't notice a difference between using the opened vs. unopened packages.
What I do notice, which the instructions do mention, is that the plants have to be sufficiently fertilized to sustain a rapid increase in growth.
Don't know whether this would be good for bonsai, because you really don't want them to grow too large, but then, I know nothing about growing bonsai--your call.
Would be interested in hearing about your results.
Hi Al
my package directions specifically say to use what is mixed in 4 hours and use the contents of the unopened package within 3 weeks.
have those instructions changed??
I have kept opened packets for more than 3 weeks and have not noticed a difference in how the product works.
Also, I went to order yesterday and discovered that they are selling 1) single packets and 2) enough for 100 gallons. Can't find the 3 pack clamshells or 9 pack clamshells on the site now.
Hi, Meg. Who are you asking? If me - I don't use it (ST) on established plants, only repot/root-prunes anyway.
I haven't started the Messenger program yet because I've been so busy with the gardens, but hopefully this weekend will offer opportunity to begin its use at 2 week intervals on all my potted stuff.
Meg, I continue to use SuperThrive, just as I did before using Messenger.
Have used Messenger twice now since active growing season has finally begun, and am more pleased than ever with the results. It's amazing how quickly everything looks better.
Happy growing, Karen
I used it on some young beech trees I planted as a hedge. They were not doing well, and now two weeks after spraying them, I see new growth, even on one that I had taken for dead! I also applied it to my roses but they already showed signs of blackspot when I applied it, so I don't know if did anything because the blackspot is still there. But the blooms seem larger than I remember last year, although I have also been feeding them lots of organic material this year... So who knows.
I am *always* happy to see a response from you, Al :-) Appreciate the others as well. I fertilize weekly (pot culture, and it's been scorching, so I'm doing a LOT of watering), alternating between Neptune Harvest fish and seaweed feritilizer and Earth Juice. My Messenger just arrived today, so if I fertilize on Monday, when would be a good time to use it? Right after? WAit a few days?
Has anyone had any experience in using the mixed Gardens Alive procuct "Green Guard" again 3 or 4 weeks after first application? In other words, I didn't use it all and it's time to spray again. I'm interested in knowing whether I need to dump the mix still in the sprayer and start with a new batch.
Over the weekend, I treated my plants to the third application of messenger at approx two week intervals. I applied it to about 100 trees & shrubs in training for bonsai, about 30 containers I have scattered about the garden, and another 50 or so smaller individual potted plantings. At each application, I included a foliar feeding of 5-1-1 fish emulsion and a Daconil treatment.
I build all my own soils & have a good relationship with them. They perform very well & I have pretty much worked out all the problems. This allows me to keep containerized plants looking near their peak potential. For that reason, I cannot say with any certainty that my plants look better than in past years, but I think they do. I can also say that I think bloom time is extended. I have 2 plantings of containerized pansies that are still blooming strongly & looking good. In past years, they had faded by this time. I have eliminated temperature as the reason they still look, as we've gone through a couple of really hot spells that should have laid them low, but it could be something I'm unaware of, still. Other bloomers I regularly pot up seem to have more persistent blooms as well. All the containers are showing lush green foliage & are producing plenty of blooms, but as noted, its not much of a departure from normal. It's difficult to make short term judgments on the trees & shrubs for bonsai, so I'm observing floral stuff most carefully.
I'm usually very careful about drawing conclusions from what would surely be considered anecdotal observations, so I have to say "The jury's still out", but I'll continue to observe for the rest of the summer.
Hello all - new here!
This is a very interesting post to me, because I'm working currently in a lab specializing in plant-pathogen interactions. Hopefully you'll all forgive me for briefly stepping on a little tangent in regards to organic methods:
I do have a question for gardengyrl: What exactly is considered organic? Do you have any literature about this? The process of cloning a gene using bacteria is used quite often in practice. Because bacteria (modified or natural) replicate so fast, so does the protein (in this case, harpin) along with the bacteria. In fact, the insulin that many diabetics take was once produced en masse by inserting the insulin-making gene into bacteria and then allowing the bacteria to replicate.
Also, I know lots of organic methods of pesticide control work on extracts from plants. So would it be inorganic to modify the plants to over-express these certain chemicals so that less plants need to be farmed to produce the extract?
I'm curious because I've recently begun to run an organic garden, and am still not clear as to the classification of organic or inorganic.
Apologies to you all for this offtopic post - please continue to post your results with this product - I'm interested to see any other results you might have! :)
Hello everyone. I'm revisiting the prior discussion on Harpin. It looks like some of you have been using it for several years now and I'm very curious about what results you've seen. I have all container plants as I live in a Condo, some indoors and many on my balcony. I also have many Bonsai, indoor and out. I'm particulary interested in hearing from Al who grows Bonsai,etc on his experience with it. I've ordered it from Garden's Alive and got in on special for $14.75, plus $6.95 shipping (outrageous considering it was only 3 small packets).
Any additional feedback on this product would be most appreciated.
San Diego, CA
Still using it, and still very happy with the results. Also alternating with SprayNGrow.
Just make sure that your plants are adequately fertilized before using. They'll absorb water and nutrients very quickly after spraying. I notice a difference within a day or two.
Used to live in Ocean Beach years ago. You have the ideal growing climate out there.
Good growing,
Thanks for the feedback Karen. I'll definitely make sure my plants are fertilized before using it.
How long ago did you live in OB? My room mate lived there from the late 60s until late 80s. We're in Mission Valley now.
By the way, I lived in NYC from 77 to 83 in Chelsea, above the Angry Squire Restaurant (not sure if it's still there). They had the greatest Shepherds Pie! I really miss NYC (except the weather, LOL).
What is "Spray N Grow"? Doesn't look like the price of Harpin has changed much in the past 2 years, but if it works the way most people say it does, will be well worth the investment.
San Diego
It works! I've read a bit about it and saw it discussed about its performance on other sites, so I thought that I'd try it. It works well with mixing it with organic liquid fertilizers, which is what I grow with, and it helps the uptake. I'm no scientist, but it seemed to perform well for me. Any one else with good results? Or bad? I'd like to know how it worked for you.
Almost two years of blather and ZERO presentation of results of controlled experiments! This has no place in a Botany forum!
Look; it's simple. Just don't spray all of your plants of the same type with Messenger and compare the ones that you sprayed with those you didn't spray. How hard is that?
dilbert I just found this thread a few minutes ago. I read down the thread and kept asking myself how come they dont take a few flowers and not spray them and a few flowers and spray them and notice the difference if any.
The only reason I can think of is that once a person spends big money on a tiny spray they have a vested interest in taking the position that they did the correct thing. therefore they are only interested in showing that their spending of the money was the correct decision. they are not interested in finding out the entire thing is a hoax.
No one is going to get on this thread and say they spent $20 on a hoax. Now a true scientist will do that. but not a normal person.
so dilbert you are going to have to run the experiment yourself. of course it would be better if it was a double blind. meaning you did not know what sprayers had the chemical. you would just do the job and report the results and then you would find out after which sprayers had the chemical. but that is difficult to do.
I suspect that there is some improvement. but the real question is how much. for example if you spend $20 and spray your vegetables and get $10 more vegetables it was again not so good. but again that is very difficult to measure.
there are other organic sprays like Serenade that will protect plants and the cost is very minor. well it can be minor if you buy concentrate. so again you might have to compare the cost of $20 in spray from one item to less than a $1 cost to spray with another product. again a tricky experiment.
but you are correct. someone has to do the first simple experiment of spraying some and not spraying other plants to see what happens. trying to keep everything else identical.
by the way simple things like alfalfa pellets make a great organic tea with lots of benefits. is messanger better than the alfalfa tea. I am not so sure. of course the alfalfa tea can be sprayed on but it is often used generously on the roots because it is so low cost less than 1 cent per gallon compared to some $3 per gallon. the alfalfa tea does contain the major item in Super Thrive. I suspect that ST is simply an alfalfa tea. Now you can purchase 50 pounds of alfalfa pellets for less than the cost of a tiny ounce or so bottle of Super Thrive.
Well after dilbert's lambasting of all here I almost hesitate to post my anecdote... almost. ;-)
I have a large collection of small Japanese Maples and many have serious leaf scorch by the end of the summers like this one. This year, I increased compost tea usage and tried harpin for the first time late in the year (I didn't apply in the summer because I don't know if harpin stresses the plants ... and add'l stress is the last thing my plants need in the high summer).
What happened this year was unexpected; I had a number of Maples that totally re-leafed in the fall. I have never seen that to this extent before.
Of course they refused to accept the oncoming cold weather so they did not get fall colors ( but they weren't the only trees in central Texas this year that appeared confused about the season).
Scientific no, but I'm intrigued.
I was reading everyones idea of cloning, lol. I am a graduate student studying Molecular and cellular biology with a concentration in developmental biology. The fact that someone would claim that cloning is not organic is ridiculous. The concept of cloning is ENTIRELY based and learned from what organically does occur in bacteria. In fact, promoters (bacterial sequence that causes the expression of protein of interest) are derived from bacteria, otherwise they wouldn't work. In other words, to cause protein expression, you have to use the bacteria's own machinery, there is nothing used that is not in fact part of bacteria-that is more organic than the shoes you are wearing. Not only that, "hairpin" protein, comes from a bacteria itself-that is 100% natural. As a biologist, I sometimes can't understand the pseudo science of "organic". In fact, some of the most dangerous chemicals (neurotoxins from snakes for example) are organic. It is very dangerous to believe that organic is more healthy. I wonder if people know that the REAL defination of organic means, "contains carbon". Every other defination is not scientific at all, people should have to take chemistry and organic chemistry before they boast the effects of "organic". Another example, hormones fed to cows in the united states are 100% organic, yet they mimic estrogen (an organic compound made by all women) and thus overconsumption can cause breast cancer in women, early puberty, and sterility in men. I am certainly not proposing that all genetic engineering is safe since it is derived by processes naturally occuring by nature everyday, I am suggesting that deceiving people to believe organic is healthier is quite dangerous. Who knows what effects the messenger protein would have in nature? I would suggest worrying more about secondary effects, an example would be genetic modifications of native bacteria as a response to this protein if it becomes wide spread. This would cause bacteria to become more pathogenic. This would be a random event, but certainly more reasonable to worry about then whether the bacteria's "origin of replication, ORI in molecular biology, is in fact organic.
I know this is an old thread but I just started using this product and didn't want to start a new one and annoy people. I am using it, it seems like my roses are benefiting but no way to know for sure since I don't have any control plants.
I am wondering if anyone else uses it, thoughts, comments?


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The Illinois High School Association's Individual Wrestling State Championships brings out the best in high school wrestling talent under the bright lights of the Assembly Hall. This two-day event showcases the elite wrestlers from across the state as they try to wrestle their way to Saturday night at the Assembly Hall to become apart of IHSA Wrestling history being dubbed individual state champion!!
Harrison/Bruce Historical Village
The Robert L. Mees Village Centre serves as the hub of the Harrison/Bruce Historical Village by providing a venue for College and community events. Historical buildings include: The Purdy School, a one-room public school in Perry County, IL from 1860-1951. The Julia Harrison Bruce House, a replica of the house the house that was built in 1868 by David Ruffin Harrison. The Harrison Storefront, this "double dog trot" style log cabin is a replica of the cabin the David Ruffin Harrison family occupied prior to the construction of the brick, "Harrison House". And The Hunter Cabin, Emmanuel Hunter built the Hunter Log Cabin in 1818; the year Illinois became a state.
Kane County Flea Market
"The Best in the Midwest or Anywhere"--Up to 1,000 dealers display and sell antiques, collectibles, & Fancy Junque. Food is served both days.
CITY:St. Charles
Wok 'n Fire
Contemporary setting features Pan Asian cuisine, Sushi bar, full bar/lounge area.
CITY:St. Charles
The James Hotel
297 rooms. 106 suites. Seven meeting rooms. 200 nonsmoking rooms. One restaurant - David Burke's Primehouse. The Spa. 24-hour room service and concierge service. The second in a dynamic new line of hotels that Travel & Leisure named "America's sexiest." James fuses modern American comfort, service and style with state of the art technology. A multiregional Italian restaurant, JBar and The Gym, our signature fitness center, are highlights. Located at Rush & Ontario at the center of the Magnificent Mile and gateway to River North.
The Peninsula Chicago
The Peninsula Chicago is a Five Star, Five Diamond luxury hotel perfectly situated in the heart of the Magnificent Mile. Well-appointed guest rooms—among the largest in Chicago—are complemented with exemplary service and indulgent amenities that include a large indoor swimming pool, modern gym, an outdoor sun deck with city views and exquisite onsite dining. Guests can also retreat to the Peninsula Spa, rated the "#1 Hotel Spa in the U.S." by Condé Nast Traveler.
Grayslake's Fall/Winter Farmers Market
Come out to downtown Grayslake on Saturdays for the Fall Farmers Market. The market will offer seasonal produce, baked goods, wine and cheeses, spices, organic selections, ready-to-eat food, live entertainment and much more. The fall market is located at Centennial Park 147 Center Street in downtown Grayslake. For details and vendors please visit the website.
McNeil's Damascus Landing
Enjoy the natural wonders of the Pecatonica River, Stephenson County's water trail, as is meanders nearly 60 miles through undisturbed Midwestern beauty. Access the river at McNeil's Damascus Landing which offers ample parking, a picnic area, fire pit and charcoal grills, portable toilet, 10' x 20' floating dock and canoe/kayak and concrete boat launch with access docking. Camping at the site is available for canoe, kayaks and boaters. Reservations required.
Quarry Ridge Hunt Club
The premiere, upland-hunting experience in Northern Illinois. Quarry Ridge offers hunting (member or non-member) for rooster pheasant, dove, turkey, deer and moor. Dogs and guides can be provided if needed.
River Port Guest House
We invite you to stay and experience one of Grafton's newest guesthouses, River Port. You can lounge on the deck furniture on the wrap around porch and enjoy a view of the river, or relax inside the house, enjoying the nautical decor, with a stress free get-away. River Port is just a walk away from the shopping, wineries, restaurants and all that Grafton has to offer!
Jordbruksdagarna – Agriculture days
Celebrate Bishop Hill's agrarian heritage, this event features traditional 19th century harvest activities and demonstrations, hands-on activities, music, farm produce, and Colony stew. Hours: 10am to 5pm.
CITY:Bishop Hill
Kane County Flea Market
"The Best in the Midwest or Anywhere." Up to 1000 dealers. 1st Saturday of the month and the following Sunday. (except Jan. & Feb.) Food served all day.
CITY:St. Charles
Hotel Felix Chicago
225 rooms. One restaurant. Lounge. Valet/laundry. Business center. Exercise facilities. Room service. Spa services, bathrobes, Ihomes. Located four blocks west of North Michigan Ave., walking distance to Water Tower, John Hancock building.
Maple Leaf Cottage Inn
Located in the historic village of Elsah, the Maple Leaf Cottage Inn offers bed and breakfast cottage style. All rooms have private bath, sitting area and a full hot breakfast delivered to you each morning.
Emery Brothers Skating Rink
Opened in 1986, this indoor rink is open seasonally from August to May. Public skating sessions are the main attraction but the rink is available for private parties as well. Large arcade, snack bar and Skate Shop on site.
Super 8 Motel - Alton
Super 8 Alton hotel lets you make the most of your time on the road. Located on Illinois Highway 3 close to Route 67 and Interstates 55 and 270, our Alton, Illinois, hotel is just 30 miles from downtown St. Louis and convenient to popular area attractions, including the Meeting of the Great Rivers Scenic Byway.
Crab Orchard Golf Club
Located between Marion and Carbondale, this 18-hole, semi-private par 70 course features lush zoysia fairways and a practice area with target greens. Crab Orchard made Golf Digest's 2008/09 "Best Places to Play" list.
Kane County Flea Market August 2015
More than 1000 dealers offer antiques, collectibles, furniture, and so much more! Held the first Sunday of the month and the preceding Saturday afternoon. Food served all day.
CITY:St. Charles
Lena Area Historical Museum
The Lena Historical Museum tells the history of Lena and the surrounding area, with galleries focusing on various historical topics. Highlights include a Civil War regimental flag and an extensive clothing collection. Also on the grounds are a summer kitchen, the first log schoolhouse built in Lena, an Illinois Central Railroad caboose, a general store, a recreated chapel, and a barn filled with antique vehicles and farm tools. Open: Saturday: 1 pm - 4 pm; or by appointment.
Celebrating Quincy's German heritage and history. Oktoberfest brings live music, food and specialty beers along with contests and home brewers samplings. All located in the German District between 9th -10th & York Streets. Hosted by the Quincy Rotary Club- held from 4-10pm on the 2nd Sat. in October.
Kane County Fle Market - June 2015
"The best in the Midwest or Anywhere". Up to 1000 dealers. Held the 1st Saturday of the month and the following Sunday. Food served all day.
CITY:St. Charles
Brick House
The menu includes a variety of salads, sandwiches and entrees like grilled salmon, cashew-crushed chicken and filet of beef served with seasonal vegetables. Music is part of the dining experience.
Skateland of Jacksonville
Skateland of Jacksonville is the sister rink of Skateland South in Springfield, IL. Whether you are looking for a good way to celebrate a special birthday or if you are just looking to have some fun with the family, come on out to Skateland!
Atkinson Motorsports Park (Gob Hill)
Looking for an adrenaline rush in Henry County? Experience the thrill of the Hill! Filled with 200 acres of unrestricted trails, undiscovered timber, rugged hills, steep valleys and lakes. Gob Hill is a motorsport enthusiast's dream. More conservative riders can enjoy over four miles of perimeter road riding, with beautiful Midwestern vistas. Gob Hill is also home to a children's dirt track perfect for knee-high dirt trackers. There is also a motocross track.
Riverfront Guest House
Escape to this newly built home in Grafton, Illinois. The Riverfront Guest House is 14 feet off the ground & overlooks the Mississippi River. Relax and enjoy the river traffic on the open deck or the attached 3 season room! This home offers two guestrooms, a fully equiped kitchen, 42" flat screen TV, BBQ Grill, outdoor furniture on the deck and covered parking.
Amboy Marsh Wildlife Sanctuary
The Amboy Marsh Wildlife Sanctuary is 272 acre of wetlands offering a rare and fragile ecosystem, which includes endangered turtles, many birds and unique plant life. It is located near the intersection of U.S. Route 52 and Mormon Road about 3 miles south of Amboy. Open to the public 7 days a week for walking and bird-watching. No dogs are allowed due to sensitive plant and wildlife.
Edwards Apple Orchard West
Edwards West is a popular destination for families to enjoy the sights, tastes, and activities of an apple orchard and farm market. For a fun family outing, enjoy the experience of picking your own apples, pumpkins and raspberries. Visit the play area featuring the wooden bus and train, the corn cribs, the wagon slide and our animals in the "Petting Farm." Stroll through the over 100 year old dairy barn with displays of bright colored apples, freshly squeezed cider, fresh apple cider donuts, and wonderful gift items that are on display.
Lil Red Guest House
The Lil Red Guest House was built in 1860 and features two bedrooms with sleeping for up to four people. This charming red house is located within walking distance of local wineries, shopping and restaurants. The guest house has a comfortable porch swing from which to enjoy the view of the Mississippi River. Reservations are required.
Lindo Theater
This historic movie theater, built in 1922, features first-run movies presented in the latest 4K digital projection and sound on nine screens. Stadium seating, digital 3D and party room.
Kane County Flea Market July 2015
Monthly flea market at the Kane County Fair Grounds with more than 1000 dealers displaying and selling antiques, collectibles, & Fancy Junque. Food served all day.
CITY:St. Charles
Hamilton Lakes
Hamilton Lakes is home to Chicagoland's largest fireworks display synced to music as well as an annual Scottish Festival & Highland Games. The lakes also offers several fields good for soccer tournaments and other outdoor activities.
Naperville Bites and Sites
Enjoy a culinary and cultural walking experience through Naperville's historic neighborhood. One delicious taste at a time! Sample some great food and drink tastings from family run restaurants and shops. Along the way you will discover beautiful downtown Naperville, the Riverwalk and fun facts on the rich history that makes Naperville amazing.
5th Annual Downtown Celebration
Plan to be part of the Downtown Celebration, a festive day of music, food and fun in the heart of Historic Downtown Jacksonville.
Classic, exotic automobiles from the last 100+ years. Car collection is open to the public for complimentary viewing. Also provides brokering, consignment sales, mechanical evaluation for all cars.
CITY:St. Charles
Super 8 Motel - Jerseyville
Get the rest you need after a long day on the road at our Super 8 Jerseyville hotel. Located on Illinois State Route 109, less than one hour from St. Louis, MO, our hotel makes it easy to enjoy small-town charms with convenient access to big-city excitement. Enjoy queen size beds, recliners in most rooms, satellite TV, free local calls, jacuzzi bathtubs in selected rooms.
Poppy Seed Primitives
A simple gathering of all things primitive and country. Poppy Seed Primitives is a cozy place where you can find antiques, primitive home decor items and gift ideas. We strive to find products that are unique and sometimes one-of-a-kind. We are proud to offer many items that are made here in the U.S. Some are even locally hand-made. Our inventory is always changing for the seasons. That's just a sampling of what we offer, it's even better to experience it.
Chalet Hills Golf Club
This championship 18-hole golf course with 6,950 yards offers bent grass fairways, and beautiful rolling hills and vistas. Power carts are required Friday through Sunday and holidays.
Material Girl Fabric Shop
Material Girl Fabric Shop located in downtown Crystal Lake, formerly The Fabric Shop, features fresh and modern fabric designers such as Anthology, Free Spirit, Westminster Including: Amy Butler, Kaffe Fawcett, Riley Blake, Alexander Henry, Michael Miller - Including Anna Griffin, Moda, Henry Glass, Kaufman, Hoffman and more. We offer an extensive variety of fabrics, trims and notions for Crystal Lake and the surrounding McHenry County area. In addition, we continue to add more fabric lines and designers such as RJR, Batik Textiles, Red Rooster, Andover, Art Gallery, Lecien, Clothworks, Dunroven House, James Thompson & Co., Marcus Fabrics, Oilcloth, Intl., P & B Textiles, Quilting Treasures, Shannon Fabrics, Studio E, and Mary Flanagan Wools. We now offer Sewing Classes and Sewing Instruction right here in our Crystal Lake store. These classes will be for beginners as well as experienced sewers of all ages looking for new ideas and inspirations.
CITY:Crystal Lake
Cannon Park Community Market
Cannon Park Community Market is a producer-only market that features many of the Southern Illinois region's farmers, growers, and artisans. Wednesdays from 3-7pm at the Carterville Community Center in Cannon Park, the market provides the Tri-C area with fresh local foods, artisan crafts, and family-friendly activities.
Corpus Christi Catholic Church
Completed in 1885, the church has a 150' spire and neo-Gothic architecture. Only ten Catholic churches in the U.S. have a saint's body, and Corpus Christi houses the holy relic of St. Crescent, taken out of the catacombs in Rome in 1838.
Grand Rivers Distillery
A locally-owned craft distillery in Southern Illinois, Grand River Spirits creates a selection of spirits that showcase the delicious fruits and grains of Southern Illinois. This national award-winning micro-distillery offers brandy, whiskey, bourbon, rum, seasonal spirits (such as grappa and schnapps), and of course Red Eye Moonshine. Don't let their small size fool you, all of the storage, packaging, distilling and tasting is housed under one roof. See the action for yourself — Grant Rivers Distillery offers free 30-minute distillery tours for up to 10 people by appointment only, available Friday evening, Saturday and Sunday.
Hyatt Place Champaign
The Hyatt Place Champaign-Urbana is opening in 2014. This nine-story hotel features 3,200 square feet of meeting space and 145 well-appointed, modern guestrooms. The hotel is located in the vibrant heart of downtown Champaign, featuring 36 restaurants within a two block radius of the hotel. The eclectic dining scene is sure to provide you with numerous choices to dazzle your taste buds with their distinctive twists on worldly cuisine. The Official Hotel Partner of Fighting Illini Athletics, Hyatt Place is conveniently located in downtown Champaign, only minutes from the University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign Campus.
Grafton Homestead Retreat
This country home, located in Grafton, Illinois, is nestled on over 70 acres of trees, pasture and farmland. Enjoy hours with your family exploring the outdoors, fishing, roasting marshmallows or taking a ride on the paddle boat. The property features pond fishing, camping, bonfire and BBQ facilities, hiking areas and picnicking. No hunting is allowed on the property but hunters are more than welcome to stay in this region known for its duck and deer hunting. Reservations are required.
Tommy T's Grub & Pub
Tommy T's offers home-made pizza and sandwiches in a fun, family-friendly atmosphere.
CITY:Mount Vernon
Herrin Farmers Market
Local farmer's market with large selection of fruits, local specialties, organic food, vegetables, and crafts.
Early Tin Dusters Fall Color Run
A street rod show of 1949 cars and older held in the streets of downtown Quincy each year. 900+ cars in attendance plus vendors and special drives and events each year. Free registration.
Lincoln's Farmer's Market
This open-air market provides a great opportunity to buy local produce, baked goods, flowers and more. The market runs from May 1 to the end of October on Saturdays and Wednesdays at Scully Park Downtown Lincoln.
Merchant Street Music Festival
Merchant Street MusicFest brings together an eclectic range of music, artists, food and people to celebrate diversity throughout the community. Merchant Street MusicFest is a FREE two-day music and arts festival at the historic downtown train depot located at 199 South East Avenue in Kankakee, IL. The event is a community celebration featuring local, regional, and national musical talent on 3 stages, fine and folk art vendors and great food and drink. Tempt your tastebuds with our local food vendors' best offerings or just sit back with a cold one and let the melodic sounds wash over you.
Anchor's Inn Guest House
Enjoy a beautiful, unobstructed view of the Mississippi River at this cozy 600-square-foot guest house. Accommodations include two queen beds, a kitchenette, a living area, patio with pergola and outside fireplace. It is also within walking distance to Grafton's shops, restaurants, wineries and marina.
Southern Illinois Irish Festival
This Festival began in 1997 and continued to grow and expand with new events and excitement for participants of all ages. A Celtic cultural celebration with special concerts, fairs with music, dance workshops & demonstrations, Celtic arts & crafts, and merchandise, children's activities. This year's Southern Illinois Irish Festival will be hosted by Walkers Bluff. This new venue provides a picturesque location just northwest of Carterville, Illinois.
Quality Inn - Woodstock
Fifty-room hotel. Minutes from downtown Woodstock.
Fall Festival
Celebrate the fall season with a farmers market, arts and craft vendors and local musical entertainment.
Park Hills Golf Course
This award-winning (3 1/2 stars in Golf Digest) public course offers incomparable playing conditions on two 18 hole, 72-par courses. The gently rolling terrain, manicured greens and abundant wildflowers make Park Hills Golf Couse the destination for thousands of visitors every year. The West Course is 6600 yards, and the East Course is 6400 yards. Watered fairways, varying distance tees, a 300 yard driving range, clubhouse and pro shop are offered. Green Fees: Weekday - 9 hole: $16; 18 hole: $25, Weekend - 9 hole: $18; 18 hole: $28; Weekday or Weekend Cart Fees: 9 hole: $20; 18 hole: $32.


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Honesty, integrity and ambition: these qualities lie at the heart of all we do at Grange Park.
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Broadband Wireless Networks-DoS Attacks & Challenges
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Broadband Wireless Networks are providing Internet and other services to end users. IEEE 802.11, IEEE 802.16 & Wireless Mesh Network are regarded as the most important Broadband Wireless Networking Standards. The attacks and vulnerabilities in Broadband Wireless Networks depend on the types of setup, network topologies and network operations. The most important security risk associated with Broadband Wireless Network is DoS Attack (Denial of Service Attack). This paper is concerned with DoS attack issues related with Broadband Wireless Networks along with possible security measures to defend the network from these sort of attacks and future directions.
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Since resizing pictures to Internet-friendly sizes seems to be a problem for many people I thought I would do a small tutorial, so here we go:
For simple resizing you don't need anything else than Microsoft's on-board graphic program MSPaint (users of other OS' have to find it themselves ).
I made the whole tutorial on a German version of WindowsXP, so there might be some confusing words, but I think it shouldn't be a problem for you to figur what the entries are called in English or whatever your Windows language is.
As example I use JoeMI6's Exo-Force MOC.
Go to your Start menu and try to find the entry pictured below (probably Start / Programs / Accessories / Paint)
Now go to File / Open... and open the image you want to change.
After opening it you might want to check what the dimensions of your image are. This can be done via Image / Attributes.
You will see window similar to this one:
You can see now the dimensions of your image, width x height.
The shrinking itself will be done with another function of the program, but this screen is important since you have to know what the original size of your picture is.
Close this window without of changing anything and go to Image / Stretch/Skew....
This screen will open:
Now you have to enter the percentage you want the image to be shrunken.
An example:
If the picture is originally 2400 x 1800 and you want it to be 800 x 600 you have to enter 33% for both values at the upper "Stretching" fields.
After clicking on "OK" you will see the result.
Check the dimensions again at the Image / Attributes window. They should be smaller now and the result should be something like this:
Now you can save the image, you might save the changes in a new file if you want to keep the original High-Resolution image (That is at least what I do)
Now a final word about dimensions:
As a long time user of a 1024 x 768 resolution for me pictures that are not larger than 800 x 600 pixels (or 600 x 800). In some cases images of a size of 1024 x 768 pixels are okay, but this is only the case for large models with lots of details. For small creations sometimes even 640 x 480 works perfectly!
Hope all of this is understandable, please let me know if there are any problems with this tutorial so I can edit it to make it easier to understand! :smile:
How to resize a large picture
Started by ApophisV , Mar 02 2006 07:12 PM
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Posted 02 March 2006 - 07:12 PM
Posted 02 March 2006 - 07:34 PM
Nice tutorial, hopefully it'll be able to help some people out.
One thing I thought I should point out though: That creation is actually JoeMI6's.
One thing I thought I should point out though: That creation is actually JoeMI6's.
"I'm sorry, I don't have the time to build anything that doesn't directly promote me."
Posted 02 March 2006 - 09:28 PM
Perfect! Thanks APO
Now on to the smilies! (so we aren't stuck with these junky ones)
Now on to the smilies! (so we aren't stuck with these junky ones)
Posted 04 March 2006 - 01:14 PM
Yay! Thanks Apo, it's nice of you to use my MOC too, thanks very much, now when i make future creations, they will be viewable to you guys with slow computers. :-P
Posted 05 March 2006 - 08:02 PM
Kudos to you ApophisV ! Excellent teaching topic. I never knew how to resize in the paint program, so I purchased others, silly me *sing*
Posted 05 March 2006 - 08:21 PM
You're welcome! :-)
Actually I think it would be great to have more tutorials for other progams too, as soon as I have the time for it I will make one for Paint Shop Pro too.
If there are some volunteers for doing them for other progams (Photoshop,...) just PM me! ;)
Actually I think it would be great to have more tutorials for other progams too, as soon as I have the time for it I will make one for Paint Shop Pro too.
If there are some volunteers for doing them for other progams (Photoshop,...) just PM me! ;)
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