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Disparity of pricing in Kitchen Cabinets
I am planning a total kitchen renovation. I have a design that I have paid a designer to develop. I am now shopping for the cabinets. I have obtained quotes from three separate vendors representing six manufacturers. Given that construction techniques, materials(including glides, hinges, wood species and finishes) are equivalent among the cabinet companies, I am flummoxed by the disparity of the quotes. The main difference between the high and low quotes is that the the high end $$ are from larger companies, the lower $$ are from smaller mfrs. including Amish Companies. Inquiries re finishes and warranties have been made and compared as well. Any insights from others who have had this dilemma?
A list of the companies would help. Usually the differences are:markup, details in the design that consumers don't notice, and frame construction. Least pricey are pocket hole frames,next are doweled, and most expensive are mortise andtenon frames (not doors).
Details in the design-to tell you need a list or an explanation from the dealer. They are things that make the install easier/ better.
The Amish are known to be a good value.
You may alsobe getting a break for already having a design fromsome and not others. Very few companies discountfor that
Not to say that some custom cabinet makers who are worth of the name don't produce some beautiful and durable cabinets. It's just they will never equal the durability of a finish that almost any larger company can put on a cabinet.
And most of those money differrences in those quotes will be due to the quality of the wood used and it's finishing process. I have yet to find a small cabinet maker who can produce a product that will be both beautiful and pass the most rigid KCMA testing prcedures for finishes. There are all different grade of catalyzed varnish, and the most hazardous to deal with top grade stuff will provide the best protection. However, most small shops aren't equipped with the necessary equipment to use these products. Nor do many of them want to pay the money to buy enough quantity to make them affordable to use. A large company can buy several 55 gallon drubs of A B components per week. There just isn't any way a small shop will even do 5 gallons.
A list of vendors would help.
I know of one cabinet line that is an "ALL WOOD" cabinet but their finish is CR@P!!! I know of a "builder grade" line whose finish is semi-custom to custom looking and no one would ever guess they are inexpensive!!!
The finish is just as important, if not more important than the construction. You can always beef up the ends and upgrade to soft-close drawers with just about any line nowadays. The finish is what you see and what takes the daily abuse.
Okay, vendor names are important for this discussion. From high end to low; Pennville, Mouser, Greenfield, Nichols, Kemp, and an independent Amish cabinetmaker. I have seen a completed kitchen by the Amish cabinetmaker. It has been in place nearly a year and is the white painted finish and door style I would choose. It was handsome and the detail work and finish were very nice. My research has indicated that the finish he applies meets the KCMA standards and he is guaranteeing the finish for 5 years. With a price differential of more than 25% from high end to low, I have pretty much decided to work with him.
As to your original question,- Pennville are loose tnone frames, Mouser are doweled, Kemper are pocket hole. Don't know the others. There will be other construction details that differ. Bottom line is the price palcement on your list is proper. No way to tell but I'd suspect the Amish are pocket hole- most local makers use that.
As to your original question,- Pennville are loose tnone frames, Mouser are doweled, Kemper are pocket hole. Don't know the others. There will be other construction details that differ. Bottom line is the price palcement on your list is proper. No way to tell but I'd suspect the Amish are pocket hole- most local makers use that.
jakuvall (as in "trades"...) Many thx for your follow up. Now, if you could only provide a brief tutorial re the three frame construction techniques that you mentioned. What are the salient differences among the three in terms of form and function? A bit more background re my skepticism about big names and big prices; I purchased a WoodMode kitchen 22 years ago, the one that I am replacing. I thought I was buying quality per the name and reputation. My experience has been that the finish (paint) has stood up fairly well, although all of the door and drawer fronts had to be replaced within the first year because of finish failure. It is a painted finish that cracked and crazed. So you might understand my approach and my apprehension as I undertake the renovation. Ciao Ciao and Mille grazie
...and master of none":) wasn't sure I wanted to get into this - it's long, but here you go.
The frame is the structure on a framed cabinet. Frames are glued. Modern glues are incredibly strong but bond best when the wood is glued long grain to long grain. An end grain to long grain joint will fail without any other means of connection.
A pocket hole joint is end grain to long grain, so a metal screw is added to hold the joint together longer, increase the strength. Without the screw the joint will fail. (when installing pocket hole cabinets it is a good idea not to put too much pressure in the middle of a wide top rail or you may hear a little crack. Once the counters are on the load is distribuetd so not as big an issue)
The other factore is that wood expands and contracts seasonally. Metal does not. As the wood expands it pushes against the metal of the screw and compresses. Eventually it compresses and does not expand back again. This is called "compression set". That's what causes the heads to fall off of hammers (see Bruce Hoadley- Understanding Wood)
Until the invention of pocket hole screws some form of joint was always used to allow for a long grain to long grain glue joint. Originally this was a mortise and tenon- the strongest most durable joint for this application.
A loose tenon, or dowels are a variations on the tenon joint. Both are easier to use in production. Loose tenon having more surface for the glue joint and IF properly fit (big if,I once handled a brand that used loose tenons that I will not sell) are better than dowels. Dowels are easier to use in production and don't have the same fit problems.
Which construction one picks is a matter of budget and how long you want things to last. Pocket holes frames are just fine, there are lots of pocket hole cabinets out there, likely more than 70% of the market (I carry one in my store and put them in my fathers kitchen-in wood) Overall though, mfg using better frame construction typically use better methods for other aspects of construction, particularly since it is something that you don't see and that the average consumer must be shown. Hoever price does not always guarantee better construction, there are some pricey pocket hole cabinets.
So when you ask about the disparity in cabinet pricing, there is a little more to it than dovetail drawers with soft close and some sort of..don't get me starte- plywood sides- those are the easiest things for a mfg to control and IMO are not indicative of quality, merely the minimum requirements.
As to your paint issue- I'm surprised but don't doubt you. I used to work for a Wood-Mode/Brookhaven dealer for 8 years, very nice cabinet, good company (they did replace your doors). During my tenure there we likely sold 1000 kitchens in those brands, statistically 40% would have been painted. Never had an issue similar to yours.
I wonder if 22 years ago the paint was different, polyester perhaps. It is one of the materials that has a tendancy to craze, especially as formulated back then (spent a while dealing with lots of kinds of materials, where the jakuvall comes from)
The most common reason I've ever seen crazing is the inadvertant inroduction of a solvent. It can be surprising what cleaning products have solvents. But hard to say.
Cracking- if it was at the joints that is to be expected in a painted finish- in any brand with any joint. It will be less with better joints, but wood moves more than paint. Other cracking- have not idea.
BTW Wood-Mode cabinets are doweled- one reason they lasted 22 years.
Wow great thread. I'm just starting to think about redoing my kitchen and 2 bathrooms. My dream kitchen includes a soft white shaker style cabinet with the most durable finish. At this point I don't know what makes the best finish or what to look for regarding construction, but you guys have given me some great info to start with. Thanks!
The best painted finish I have sold is Plain & Fancy. But not everyone has a budget for that line of cabinets. Plain & Fancy is probably 20% to 50% more than KraftMaid....depending on where you live, the dealers markups and what sales/promotions are going on.
If I couldn't get P&F, then I think Showplace or Medallion would be the next step down. Shiloh is right there too. But I have run across a couple of rough spots on the Shiloh finish recently. For the builder budget, Medallion offers Silverline in their painted finish...a GREAT value!!! I am posting a photo of Medallion's SILVERLINE painted Carlisle doorstyle....one of my best sellers!!!
Another aspect that affects price is the level of choices in door styles and how those doors are made. For example, Yorktowne & Medallion have set door/drawer combinations with specific edge profiles and door center panels. Executive (semi custom) will offer you a choice of center panel & drawer heads (slab or recessed center panel), but not the edge profiles. Rutt & Rutt Regency (custom) you can have any door any way with choices of rail/stile widths, center panels, edge profiles and drawer heads.
Each cabinet line is different their level of wood grain/color matching. Yorktown & Medallion will use nearly every stick that comes off the truck. They are not very selective if the wood colors or graining matches. This is very noticeable in Cherry as well as light stained oak & maple. Executive is better, but Rutt/Rutt Regency is by far the best. Since Rutt makes all their own doors, they can be selective of the wood for color and grain matching.
Just as a note, while Rutt is competitive with Woodmode & Rutt Regency is competitive with Brookhaven/Signature/Plato/Kountry Kraft/Plain & Fancy etc.
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Parts- there is no "best"
You will find the most consistant dark finishes in cherry.
Other than that the variables involved in finishing are more complex than construction and harder to describe.
Ther are a number of brands that KD's or reps will refer to as known for their finish. Brookhave/Wood-Mode, Quality Custom (QCCI), Rutt, Crystal, Plain n Fancy, Dura Supreme, Signature (I would agree with Kompy about Showplace at the price) was just speaking with mamadapige who likes Pennville.
Likely someone will want to add to the list- these are the ones I've heard the most talk of. A lot has to do with market share though.
Some are "better" than others but the pros could argue which, usually in favor of whatever we sell. (On that list -I sell QCCI and Showplace, used to work for a Wood-Mode dealer)
In many a cases a brand can get one color or finish right and not another. A good KD will tell you. My own opinion is that mid size companies (at any price) more often do a better job than either large or small ones. With the exception o Wood-Mode who is the most commonly referred to "our finish is just like..." And bigger than many.
Some better brands always use a color contol sample-a door done in the style and finish you want, signed off on, cut in half, half goes back to factory to be used for referance where they will tone anything that needs it resulting in superior consistancy.
Lastly, as I've said before, who you work with is more important than ANY specific brand.
This post was edited by jakuvall on Fri, Nov 30, 12 at 21:49
Agree with everything Jakuvall said...especially "there is no best". Each line has a niche...what us as kitchen designers, have learned over time which lines work better with certain criteria. For instance, for me and my manufacturers, if someone wants a 'shaker' style, I almost always steer them towards Medallion or Silverline....they offer a ton of different Shaker styles and modified Shaker designs. If someone wants a frameless kitchen, you can't beat Holiday Kitchens for their price and quality. Distressed or glazed finishes? Some companies do glazes that are very subtle, some look like they used a Sharpie marker! It depends on which way the client likes it :-) Distressing is an art and some do it better than others. Showplace's VINTAGE finish looks naturally aged. I've seen some distressed finishes that look deliberate. A good KD, like Jakuvall said, is MUCH more important. They will be able to steer you in the right direction and educate you about cabinets and design. Someone with over 5-10 years experience preferred, but obviously the longer someone has been in the industry, the more they will know. Also getting a good vibe from that designer/salesperson is a must. Integrity and creativity are important....they must be honest with your dollars...and also be open to your ideas...it's your kitchen.
Ps. I recently ordered a vanity for my own home. I can get Shiloh, KraftMaid or Medallion for less, but chose Showplace for their beautiful distressed VINTAGE finish and their FURNITURE style vanity designs (with feet!). Posting a photo below of their Cherry - Autumn - Vintage door sample.
Chestnut3, I Iive in Indianapolis. This thread is providing an amazing amount of knowledge and expertise. I am trying to keep up with the conversation and absorb the details of construction, finishes, brand hierarchy, etc etc. I am a bit overwhelmed by all of the options and nuances to consider before making my final selection for cabs. I have seen a kitchen mfr'd by the Amish company that has provided the most competitive pricing for my project. Having learned a bit more about cab construction via this post, I inquired about their joinery and finishing techniques. This company uses pocket hole construction and his painted finish includes a catalyzed paint finish and catalyzed to coat. His warranty is 5 years on the finish, lifetime on the hardware. The fit and finish of the kitchen I saw was very good. When I examined an open drawer and cabinet I noticed that the drawer front and can door had chamfered edges where the fronts met the frame. It seems that there is much attention to the details on his cabinets.
I'll add another cabinet maker name to the list. We're about to undertake an addition and my builder included cabinets by a company called Integrity Cabinets, LLC in their proposal. I did a search for reviews on GW and Google to no avail; here's a link to their website describing the construction process: http://integritycabinets.com/construction.html Does anyone on GW have any experience with them?
This post was edited by armada on Tue, Jan 15, 13 at 13:02
In our experience, there's a great deal of disparity and you can spend quite a bit more if you don't shop around first.
We priced a complete kitchen in cabinets made by Decora.... a nice line Home Depot sells. The HD price was $43,200 for the complete kitchen.
Then we found a remodeler in Scottsdale Arizona called Republic West Remodeling that also carries the Decora line. We took the exact same design to them for a second quote. They didn't even have to create a new design... just used the same design we quoted at Home Depot. The same Decora cabinets from them were quoted at $88,400!
We ended up going with a small, local custom cabinet maker and paid $35,000 for cabinets that we're able to personalize. It's very nice to not be restricted by the cabinet specifications of the big manufacturers ("...can't do this, can't do that"), the quality is excellent, and it feels good to give the business to a local small business.
This thread has been very informative, thank you.
There are so many cabinet brands, it quickly becomes overwhelming. The KD we're leaning towards recommended Mouser for white Shaker painted frameless cabinets. They have less Shaker styles than others, but still have a "thin", a "thick", and one in between. They seem to be well constructed and well regarded, but how does their painted white finish compare to other brands?
I feel like you need to be a KD yourself, or spend all your time touring houses, in order to be able to adequately compare different brands. Picking cabinets seems to require a fair amount of trust and faith in your KD, and finding a KD that will match a brand to you rather than just going with the same brand they always use.
What a wealth of info! I've been google imaging all the frame construction terms to understand the different types discussed.
Since it seems that a KD is really the first step in planning a new kitchen, I'm wondering how do I find a great one? Haven't been able to get recommendations from family/friends, so I feel like I'm going into this process blind. (I am in Brooklyn, NY.)
Also. .... one GC we spoke with said he exclusively uses Armstrong, but I haven't found any old GW threads discussing that maker. Any idea where that one falls compared to some of the ones mentioned above.?
Best advice I have to finding a good KD is to go and talk with them, meet with them, ask your questions, and ask them to do a layout for you.
We met our KD while looking at countertops. We thought we already had a KD and layout picked out, and I was just trying to see which countertop color went best with our floor. The KD showing me the countertops said that none of the countertops I was looking at went with our floor, and that we'd have to use completely different countertop colors to not have them clash. I appreciated her frank honesty, and it convinced us that we had to replace the floor in the kitchen to get the look we wanted.
I asked her to do a layout for us, and while it took her longer than most to get it done, as soon as we saw it we knew we had found our KD. Her layout was completely different than the layout of every other KD we had previously met with - it was based around creating a kitchen we'd be happy to use and live with, not just around including our wishlist in the kitchen.
She pointed out that our kitchen was too small for an island, despite having one currently, and that a peninsula, while not nearly as sexy, would allow us to have counter space and seating and avoid creating bottlenecks or having to constantly circle around the island. She also pointed out an issue with the fridge we were planning to use. None of the other KDs had brought up these issues, they had designed a kitchen with everything on our checklist but ignored the actual ease of use of the kitchen.
How to find a KD. Go to a few, they will all be happy to talk.
You are conducting a job interview. Best reserve judgment until you finish with all the candidates. ( "every customer is looking for an excuse NOT to buy" don't let that stand in your way.) Above all else try to have fun, it's an adventure. You may get a few laughs along the way.
Things to look for/ask then evaluate based on your needs:
-how they do things- get a complete explanation of the process-scheduling, revisions, meetings, measuring, changes, payment schedule, what aspects will they help you with, what is required for you to purchase, how do they deal with correspondence and phone calls, how is install handled.
-ask to see final documents and drawings-repeat- look at final documents
-will they work to try and fit into your budget (hence you need to have an idea of what that might be-how much are you comfortable with)
-a portfolio is nice but unreliable ( a lot of people make their purchase decision because a place has a display they like, or a KD has a photo they like- both not the best idea) A dood KD should be able to design across a spectrum of tastes, though not necessarily all. Ask if you are looking for a style that you don't see.
-similarly where or if they went to school is nice but not the only (nor most common) way to get into this. I've found certification overrated but some don't feel that way. I would say if you are after "excellent" 5 years experience is a common cutoff. Again I know of exceptions, folks who were great in less time (usually coming from another field that had some relation) and those with decades who are terrible..
-referances, within the last year
-they should have a few brands -it is unlikely that a good KD works at a place that only has junk
-fit- how does it feel to you
It is a good idea to call ahead for an appointment. Good KD's are busy. It will also give you a small sense of what you are walking into. I generally feel that a place that gives a cold call an appointment is a slightly better bet than one that says just stop in.
There should be no pressure.
The answers will be quite varied. One way of doing things is not necessarily better than another. What works for you is what counts.
Is there a way to save this in a basic primer area on the website so it does not fade away over time? I am not even sure where that area is, but it would be great if it could be always available as a reference.
I also have a question for Jackuvall: How can we tell if the joint is pocket hole or dowel or loose tenon? Aren't those areas hidden once the joints are finished and the cabinet put together? Also, you said near the beginning of this thread that it is not enough to be loose tenon construction, but must be properly fit at which time they would be better than dowels. How would we know if they are properly or improperly fit?
I can see having to rely on the manufacturer's website to be told that they use pocket hole or loose tenon or dowel joints, but the website is not going to mention how well they are fit! What should we do or be looking for?
Thanks again for this great and informative post!
What kindof joint is used- ask.
You can see pocket holes.
Others should be documented (some mfg tout mortise and tenon but are actually referring to doors)
Bad joints- look at where the face frame rail meets the stile. Should be a consistent line, barely visible. Inconsistent width, or wider than normal indicate a poor joint.
Included a finger joint from a miter door- I didn't get into miter doors.
Hello Jakuvall. Finally... someone with good cabinet and design information! I am a professional kitchen designer and also feel that having a diploma is not an indication of design ability. I have seen some horrific designs by accredited designers. The time and effort you spent on this thread is commendable. Your comments are spot on!
Thanks Jackuvall. The pictures of what a pocket-hole looks like are really helpful. I had tried to do a brief search before I posted above, but couldn't find anything showing what it looked like on a finished cabinet.
I just spent a few minutes looking at our 31 year old upper cabinets, and as near as I can determine, I think they are dado joints. I am not sure where that would fall in your list of strength and durability, but I would be interested to learn, as we are beginning our journey to re-do the kitchen.
Do you know of a way to keep this thread as part of in-depth basics for other GW members?
Dado, and through tenons-being used to make face frames would likely indicate locally and/or site built cabinets. At least I've not seen them in manufactured cabinets. Actually I don't see them for frame construction anymore but I wouldn't doubt someone is using them.
Depending on cross section, profile, and fit- each offers better better glue properties than pocket holes.
Dados and rabbets ARE often used to attach sides to the frame and to fit the back into a cabinet. I prefer a dado.
This all started with the question of what is (or should be) the difference as price increase.
Any type of construction, well executed in a manner that respects the materials used is just fine and will last. That goes for the entire case, not just the face frame. The frame is a good indicator.
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Result: A sheet of shaving cream foam about 1/4" thick will project itself up at an angle a number of yards into the closed room, usually landing on someones bed, usually with them in it. The cinderblocks make a great tripping hazard for the irate tenant!
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When I was in high school my brother was taking a shower so I had a 5 gallon bucket filled with ice water cubs and all. One thing you should know is my brother takes hot showers uses up all the hot water so people have to wait for two hours to take a shower after him.
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Put first 4 ingredients in saucepan, bring to boil and simmer, covered, for about 1 hour.
Heat oil in skillet and add next 5 ingredients.
Cook until slightly browned.
Add to first mixture and simmer for 10 minutes, or until vegetables are tender.
Season with salt and pepper to taste and serve with the cheese as a main dish.
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1. Melt dark chocolate along with butter in a bain marie.
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4. In a large mixing bowl combine eggs and both the sugar, whisk the sugar for 5-10 minutes or until all the sugar is dissolved.
5. Add the melted chocolate and whisk, and then add the flour and cocoa powder and whisk until all ingredients is mixed well.
6. Place the white chocolate in the baking dish and then pour the brownie mixture, spread evenly.
7. Bake it for 25 minutes in a preheated oven, half way through the cooking turn the baking dish once.
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Each year, billions of non-stick pans get trashed. OK they are recycled. Metal cannot be recycling too many times, and recycling also pollutes.
Re-purposing, re-using is a better strategy.
Here is an idea to re-purpose an expired aluminum pan.
Aluminum is soft and very easy to work with. You can hammer the pan to flatten it and turn it to a useful conversation piece when you have a pizza party.
This post was edited by dcarch on Sun, Jul 20, 14 at 11:39
Thank you, thank you! Thank you everyone. I appreciate your kind flatteries.
Cathy, âÂÂAnother amazing project! Does your mind keep you awake at night?âÂÂ
No, as long as I have my security blanket. :-)
Jasdip, âÂÂ---The skillet didn't even look that bad that you re-purposed. -------âÂÂ
Did you see the picture showing the bottom?
FOAS, âÂÂShould have been Prime, not Time, to complete the alliteration, no? :)
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I gave it some thought âÂÂpassed its primeâ means Still OK, but not as good. I decided to go with âÂÂPassed its timeâ of usefulness. Then wordsmithing is not my pastime. :-)
Sharp eyes! There is a liquid I use that will turn aluminum black.
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Sue, you have good memory. I think you may be remembering some other projects I have posted using old frying pans.
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Thank you Annie. As it turned out, the hand spade is a great idea. All the gardening spades I have seen are too small for many tasks. This one works well. I wonder why they don't make bigger ones.
Sue, I made the bird bath so that the birds will not pick on my tomatoes because there are no places they can get a drink in my area. The idea panned out. :-)
Islay, thanks. Re-cycling is enjoyable for me, including turning leftover food into new dishes.
BTW, the fountain for the birdbath is solar energy operated. No batteries or electric power needed. Inexpensive and works well.
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Thanks again everyone!
It's inspiring to be part of this community. A lot more than cooking, there are so many talented members to draw ideas from; museum quality sculptor, weaver, furniture designer, cabinet maker, photographer, ceramic maker, painter ---------------.
Saw this the other night at work... immediately wondered what i should make, : )
I seldom use a hand trowel...i use a scarpani most small digging for infant plant starts.
I do need a bird bath and have a few solar fountains...(a dumpster dive in mid-town)
Hmmm...fun designing ideas for the up-coming weekend. Always re-purposing and making things from found objects. I do have a few of those pans i never use any more.


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I feel for you. It always sucks to report information and find out later that you were wrong. That's why we stress that for every statement that you make in a meme entry, provide a link to a source that backs up your statement. This way, the facts can either be verified or corrected.
Don't feel too bad about it. I make my mistakes as well. For those of you who saw Ellie's "Best Bond Gadgets" Rocketboom Tech episode, it's my fault that she said the microchips were in Quantum of Solace and not Casino Royale. I had gotten so caught up wth researching all of the other facts about the tech in the films that I overlooked something very basic, and man did we hear about it!
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BOISE, Idaho — The Boise Co-op eliminated thousands of slow-selling items, sweeping away the claustrophobic effect that accompanied too many offerings. The Wheatsvile Food Co-op in Texas is opening its second store after 40 years.
And in California, the Davis Food Co-op turned to a designer to revamp its look.
It's no coincidence food cooperatives across the U.S. are making big changes. Many are preparing for the arrival of a Whole Foods or Trader Joe's, two organic- and specialty-food industry giants that are opening new stores nationwide.
Some co-ops are even dispatching camera-toting, intelligence-gathering crews to poach ideas from the big guys.
With demand for organic, natural and specialty food continuing to outpace other segments in the grocery industry, co-ops say they must improve their stores, identify trends and appeal to a changing audience as the competition moves in.
Whole Foods Market Inc. aims to triple stores to 1,000, including in Boise and Davis, Calif.; German-owned Trader Joe's is expanding, too, with a 19 city "coming-soon" list.
"Co-ops had it easy for years" when customers had few other places to go, said Robynn Shrader, head of the 125-member, 164-store National Cooperative Grocer's Association. "It's more complicated being a retailer today."
The modern co-op movement dates back to the 1970s, when customer-owned food stores — including in Boise, Davis, Calif., and Austin, Texas — were organized to provide an alternative to national grocery chains. Despite typically higher prices, shoppers often feel as if they're buying more than groceries, that they are supporting a lifestyle.
They emphasize community roots and, though they've evolved from when nearly everything came in big bulk bins, they still stock an average of 20 percent local products, compared to 6 percent at conventional stores, according to a study released in August by Shrader's group. About 80 percent of co-ops' produce is organic, compared to 12 percent for conventional grocers.
Over the years, demand for natural, organic foods has only grown. The Organic Trade Association reports 2011 sales rose 9 percent to $31.4 billion.
Brent Hueth, director of the Center for Cooperatives at the University of Wisconsin-Madison, said he'd expected an increasingly crowded landscape of organic purveyors, including from conventional stores, to be tougher on co-ops.
That hasn't materialized. "Demand is growing faster than supply," Hueth said. "It's not saturated yet."
Even so, some co-ops have been hurt. In West Des Moines, Iowa, for instance, the Tall Grass Grocery Co-op closed in August, a year after opening and a month after Whole Foods' arrival.
At the 40-year-old Davis Food Co-Op in Davis, sales slipped 7 percent after Trader Joe's October 2010 opening, forcing wage freezes and retirement-plan cuts, manager Eric Stromberg said.
Though revenue has recovered, Whole Foods opens in October in this university town near Sacramento, so additional austerity measures are planned to navigate another dip.
"Honestly, the emotion I felt was anger," he said. "I worked really hard to give our employees good benefits. And I hate to see that nibbled away."
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"The goal is you walk away with at least one good idea we can use in our store," he said, describing how one crew was politely asked to leave a San Francisco Bay-area Whole Foods.
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Today, RIM and Verizon announced the BlackBerry Curve 3G. The Curve 3G 9300 features, of course 3G, but it's also BlackBerry 6 compatible. With the 8520 floating around for a little cheaper, users will have to make up their mind about whether the price increase is worth the BlackBerry 6 potential and 3G. If you're in the market for a Curve, you might as well spend the little bit extra up front to get these features.
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The BlackBerry Curve 3G is the latest device in the BlackBerry Curve series and the best part about it is that it has 3G and is BlackBerry 6 ready. The Curve product line has always been the most accessible of all the BlackBerry models because of its low price point and popular form factor. The Curve 3G fits nicely into this series because it has everything you would expect from a Curve but just a little more spec-wise to make it fit for 2010. According to RIM, the Curve 3G is "designed the growing mass of smartphone purchasers with a distinctly powerful, approachable and affordable choice".
With the Curve series, it's clear that RIM intends this device to help them saturate an increasing global demand for smartphones. "The majority of people in the worldwide mobile phone market have yet to buy their first smartphone and the BlackBerry Curve 3G is designed to provide an extremely attractive and accessible choice that will help convince many of them to make the leap," says Mike Lazaridis, President and Co-CEO at RIM.
So while many die-hard BlackBerry users will write this device off as a boring upgrade to the Curve series, the device isn't really intended for them. The Torch is the smartphone for long-time Blackberry users and the Curve 3G is the smartphone for the feature phone user who is looking to convert. Click through after the jump and we'll delve deeper into the Curve 3G and see what makes it tick.
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The gist Sticking to a schedule, you let your baby cry in his crib for increasing lengths of time before you reassure him verbally.
Why it's right for you
Your baby sometimes stops crying on his own.
He doesn't become more upset the longer he cries.
You're comfortable putting up with a few difficult nights for the desired result.
How to pull it off Start with a nighttime routine that helps calm your baby and signals bedtime, such as a bath, a story, and cuddle time. Next, put him in his crib at the same time every night, whether he seems drowsy or not, and leave the room. Now comes the hard part of this method, popularized by Richard Ferber, M.D., author of Solve Your Child's Sleep Problems: When your child cries, wait before checking on him. On the first night, let your baby cry for five minutes. Then let him hear your calming voice, but don't pick him up. Stay for two to three minutes each time you go in to soothe him -- you're there for reassurance, not necessarily to get him to stop crying. The next time he cries, wait 10 minutes; then, 15. If he's still crying after 15 minutes, continue to wait 15 minutes before going in each time for the remainder of the night. (If five minutes seems like too long to wait the first time, start with two minutes, then increase to four, six, eight and so on.) Each night, lengthen the time you let your baby fuss before going in until it's no longer necessary. This process shouldn't take longer than a few days, says Ferber. The same steps can be used for daytime naps.
The No-Cry MethodThe gist You comfort your baby whenever she wants you, gradually cutting back on the amount of time and level of attention you give her.
Why it's right for you
You don't want to let your baby cry at night.
You don't mind waking up throughout the night for now if it means less stress for both of you.
You crave lots of physical closeness with her.
How to pull it off This method can be demanding, but it's also simple. You'll need to maintain consistent naptimes and bedtimes and use a calming routine (such as bathing, nursing, or rocking) to let your baby know bedtime is near. Keep your baby within earshot all night, either by sharing a room or using a baby monitor. When she awakens, listen first to see if she falls back asleep on her own. If not, soothe her however you choose, but gradually reduce how long you spend on it so she learns to put herself back to sleep. Be sure to remove your breast or the bottle from her mouth when she's sleepy but not asleep. "Otherwise, she'll expect to nurse every time she wakes up," says Elizabeth Pantley, author of The No-Cry Sleep Solution and The No-Cry Nap Solution. And remember: The American Academy of Pediatrics warns against bed sharing with babies.


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Archie Goodwin was the second of the Phoenix Suns' first round picks, but with Alex Len sidelined with an injury he's the only one of the two playing on the team's Summer League entry.
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The former Kentucky guard is averaging 11.8 points and 3.0 rebounds per game, and while his shoot has been inconsistent, his athletic ability has not been.
Recalling a play Goodwin made where he jumped off the opposite foot and blocked a shot with his weak hand, Suns coach Jeff Hornacek said the 18-year-old is "very talented."
"He can fly up and down the court," he added. "You can see his speed and his ability. (When) he catches that ball out near the three point line on a fast break on the wing, it's a one dribble and dunk.
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BOSTON -- The first time he won a Stanley Cup, Chicago Blackhawks general manager Stan Bowman got a couple days to celebrate, then had to make the difficult decisions to tear down a team that reached the pinnacle of hockey together.
On Monday night, with Blackhawks fans who traveled to Boston screaming behind him along the TD Garden glass, Bowman could look at the players celebrating in front of him and know that most of them are coming back. The first team in the salary cap era to win two Stanley Cups is built to win more.
"We're going to make some changes, but nothing like before," Bowman said after the Hawks captured the Stanley Cup with a 3-2 victory over the Boston Bruins in Game 6. "That was tough at the time to remake everybody. Overall, I think we've done a good job of putting ourselves in a good position. We have some young players that have taken roles on the team and grown in their roles. It's nice to see it all come together."
When it comes to building a championship roster, Bowman and his Stanley Cup finals counterpart, Peter Chiarelli, are as good as it gets in the game right now. This was a tight playoff series between the two best teams in the league and both teams are built for more. Boston and Chicago have core players bred to win championships. Guys such as Jonathan Toews, Patrice Bergeron, Patrick Kane, David Krejci, Duncan Keith, Zdeno Chara, Patrick Sharp, Milan Lucic, Brent Seabrook -- the list goes on. These are champions, Olympians and the most elite of competitors.
Repeating is all but impossible in today's NHL, but in playing for another Stanley Cup so shortly after winning one, these two teams have shown they're up for the grind.
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Turkey fryer: The Southern tradition of deep-frying a Thanksgiving turkey in peanut oil is catching on. Some things to know before you try a turkey fryer at home.
Deep-frying a turkey for Thanksgiving has become more popular in recent years. The process yields a tender and delicious meat and offers a novel twist on the classic Thanksgiving centerpiece. Depending on the turkey fryer you use, it can also mean your main dish will be ready to serve in an hour or less, vastly improving oven roasting times that can range anywhere from 3 hours (6-lb. bird) to 6 hours (24-lb. bird).
The Southern tradition of deep-frying a turkey in oil can be incredibly dangerous, so don't attempt it before reading up on the process. The National Fire Protection Association actually discourages the use of outdoor turkey fryers.
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- Never leave your turkey fryer unattended.
- Make sure your turkey is completely thawed, removed any wrapping, and discard the neck and giblets.
- Before filling your fryer with oil, do a test run with water. Place the turkey in the fryer, and fill with water until the bird is just covered. Remove the bird, letting the water drain back into the fryer, then mark the water line. This is how much oil to add to the fryer.
- Pat the bird dry with a paper towel and rub with desired seasonings.
- Do not stuff a deep-fried turkey! Prepare the stuffing separately.
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2002 Saturn VUE Base Review
This vehicle provided surprising value for the price.
Doesn't have the prestige of a BMW, Mercedes or other luxury SUV.
Bought It In A Pinch And Ended Up Falling In Love With It. — I first saw the Saturn VUE at a 2001 Auto Show. It was the only vehicle in the show that caught my attention as one that was new and innovative. Little did I know that six month later I would be driving one. When my luxury vehicle unexpectedly failed a few months later, I gave the VUE a serious look and bought one. The inline 4 cyl. with manual transmission is surprising peppy and economical. The vehicle provides exceptional value for the price. It has been inexpensive and easy to maintain. Like many I was disappointed to see GM drop Saturn.
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Decent Vehicle For A Family Needing A Little More Room, Deosn't Hold Value, So Cheap $$$ — Brakes constantly squeak, It has good pep for a V-6, but I think the wierd transmission really holds it back, Very reminiscent of the ol Hydro-glide from pontiac. Sluggish gear changes, no definite feel when shift happens. Getting around 20 MPG, city. Interior is cheap, exterior is decent. With a couple of kids, there is plenty of room, plus some extra for trips to the beach. So far has held up with no major repairs, just a wheel hub gone bad.
Primary Use: Family transportation
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2002 Saturn VUE Base Review
Great car for traveling with family or for work. Mid-sized SUV but drives good. Great on tires and normal use. If I was buying a new vehicle I would get a Ford Edge to replace this vehicle.
Branking sucks due to the weight of the vehicle or just crappy brakes, does not handle the road very good or in the snow. I would recommend a 4WD vehicle over this vehicle.
Great Family Car For Store Trips Or Family Outings. — I enjoy the vehicle for long trips and family outings but for commuting it is just ok. If I was buying a new vehicle I would want a newer crossover vehicle like the Ford Edge or something equivlant to it. Overall it is a good vehicle but not excellent like my Porshce.
Primary Use: Family transportation
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2002 Saturn VUE V6 AWD Review
Very comfortable
Less Mileage
Excellent About My Car — Feel excellent to have this car. Very good road view and stability. Brakes are good and comfortable driving leg room. Sunroof is really a good one in this car and gives more fun to my family. Awesome! The only problem i feel in my car is less mileage around 18 mpg
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Safety is one of Saturn's biggest assets. We have used 3 wagons and this Saturn Vue.
Not many
Good, Safe & Reliable Transportation . — Good,safe family car. Also Great for a tradesman. Fold flat front seat makes it easy to carry something 8ft long. As a gardener I can carry 18 /40lb bags of soil with just the backseats folded down. As a painter/ paperhanger I can carry a paperhanging table and ladder,plus tarps and equipment. 5 speed manual transmission is really great and we were always glad we had it.
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roomy, great gas mileage, dent resistant panels, customer service, warranty
turn radius, early wear on certian body parts
Saturn Vue 2002 Sport Package — Roomier than I initially expected, and has consistantly delivered an average of 25 miles+ to the gallon, even on short trips, highway driving peaking at 30 mpgs. Through the years I have noticed odd noises (chirping sounds coming from the doors) due to faulty door latches, luckily an inexpensive fix. Turn radius leaves MUCH to be desired, but all and all, I love my car.
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fun to drive
kinda slow
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2002 Saturn VUE V6 AWD Review
perfect size
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Not A Great Car
We bought this car used. The trade in value is terrible. The heater/AC fan stopped working 2 weeks after we bought it. Water comes out of the tail pipe. It has room for 5 , although it is a tight fit.... Read More
Good Entry Level Suv Without Having To Pay An Arm And A Leg To Set Up High
performance is adequate with acceleration and breaking good,but handling is sub-par.Hav'nt needed many repairs in the two years of ownership.Other than wheel bearings and valve cover gaskets,just regu... Read More
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My 2004 Saturn Vue Is Awesome!!
Overall, there's really nothing I don't like about my 2004 Saturn Vue. I especially like how my car has quick pick up from a stopped position at a red light to a green light. No hesition. If someone a... Read More
A Good Little Commuter To Work
A good little suv for in town riding maybe a little dirt rode riding but any off reading is out of the question better off walking or u wish u did after bouncing around in the cab for a while Read More
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2005 Saturn Vue
This was the first car I bought myself, and I have never regretted it. Bought it used with about 30k miles, it's up to about 150k now and while I have had to put some money into it on routine repairs,... Read More
Great, Composit Body Panels Still Looked New After 10 Years.
Easy for car seat use, being a do-it-yourselfer I carried a lot when all seats went flat. Very comfortable and peppy. I always had a sports car and a truck, I liked this SUV much better than the truck... Read More
2006 Saturn VUE Reviews
Saturn Vue Family Transportation.
This has been a good family transportation for years. It has begun to show it age. It will not tow even with a v6 and automatic transmission. Would really like to get it back to normal running conditi... Read More
Best Tow-behind Vehicle If You Can Find One.
Looked all over for this car before purchasing used. Only THREE in the entire country were available at the time (in black, sunroof, leather seats). Flew to Florida to purchase sight unseen and drov... Read More
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Exceeds Our Needs.
We tow it behind a 37 foot motorhome and have been very pleased with its capabilities. It has the power and space required to meet our needs. The hybrid function works very well and I am impressed wi... Read More
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I love this car. The sound system is good. The fuel economy is great and it has a lot of power to it. It is really nice looking and very nice on the inside. Big enough for a family of five. Read More


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St. Louis Aldermen Fight Over Subpoena Power for Police Oversight Board
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Downtown STL Inc.'s Missy Kelley says she supports the plan to bring in the Highway Patrol to help reduce crime downtown, but it's getting mixed reaction from the Board of Aldermen.
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Protestors say one woman was shoved by the Business Manager of the St. Louis Police Officers Association.
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The Sunset Hills Board of Aldermen delayed action that could lead to the removal of its mayor, who was charged with two felonies after colliding with a cyclist while driving his car.
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