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Easy Propagation Chamber
I make a little propagation chamber that is so easy, and so reliable for me that I thought I would share the idea. I have not seen one like it here, and I did look through the FAQ, but didn't find one there either. I hope I did not miss it, and I hope I do not offend anyone by being presumptive in posting this here.
That said....
This is what you will need.
A plastic shoebox, with a lid. They come in various sizes, any will do.
Soil less potting mix, half peat, half perlite, or whatever is your favorite medium.
A little clay pot, with the drain hole plugged with caulking or silicone. If this is a new pot, scrub it with some steel wool to be sure it doesn't have a sealer on it. You want the water to seep through it.
Rooting hormone powder or liquid, or salix solution from the willow tree.
Plant material, snippers. I am going to pot some Plectranthus (a tall swedish ivy) and a Joseph's Coat, 'Red Thread'. I already have some succulents rooted in this box. I will take them out and pot them up later, DH has a new cacti pot he wants to put them in.
You can see here, I hope, that I fill the clay pot to the top with rain water, well water, or distilled water. I just don't use our tap water, too much chlorine and a ph that is out of sight.
I pour a little of the hormone powder out on a paper plate or a piece of paper, so that I don't contaminate the whole package of powder. And these little 'snippers' are the best for taking this kind of cuttings.
This is about right on the amount of hormone to use. I try to get 2 nodes per cutting, if I can. Knock off the excess. It is better to have a little too little than to have too much.
Then, with your finger, or a pencil, or stick, SOMETHING, poke a hole in the potting mix and insert your cutting. Pull the potting mix up around the cutting good and snug.
When your box is full, and I always like to pretty much fill the box, just put the lid on it, and set it in the shade. You don't ever put this box in the sun. You wind up with boiled cuttings. YUK!
Check the cuttings every few days, and refill the reservoire as needed. Don't let it dry out. If you happen to get too wet, just prop the lid open with a pencil for a little while.
This is a very good method of propagation, but I don't do roses in these. The thorns just make it hard for me, with my big fingers, to pack the box full. All kinds of other things can be done in these. Just try it!
I believe some have/are using the larger clear storage boxes from Wal-Mart. You can drill drain holes and put the mix directly in the tub part, or use them upside down and place small pots on the lid...covering it with the bottom part. This works well for taller cuttings of woody ornamentals. No one that I am aware of, has posted pics of the whole process...very good.
I found a deep clear plastic container at WalMart this morning that I am going to use to root some cuttings of firespike, althea, and jatropha. They are 13"l x9"w x10"d, and they have a lid.
I don't put holes in the bottom of mine. The water seeps through the terra cotta pot so slowly that I have not had any problem with the rooting medium being too wet.
It is necessary to have damp medium to start with, and to have the little pot filled with water. Leave the lid closed, condensation will accumulate on the lid. No need to mist.
I have lost cuttings in one of these little chambers. But I have lost cuttings in almost every other method I have ever tried too. I always have to fiddle with things to learn it for myself. I lose far fewer cuttings with this method than with any other.
A lot depends on what you are trying to root. Would you normally put vinca cuttings in a mist?
Different things take differing amount of time. coleus should root pretty quickly. I stuck some fire spike cuttings in a tall container, and it works wonderful for things like that. I may try some rose cuttings in the tall container.
I use it year around. I am in zone 9, and I leave them in the unheated greenhouse or on the porch, but I bet if you found a spot in a kitchen corner, or on top of the fridge, they would do just fine for you.
I use 50-50 peat and perlite, but you could use seed starter mix.
Good luck.
I did it! I used Lantana and bouganvillea. AND.....I used field dirt. We will see how it works out. I also couldn't find a shoe box with a clear lid. Mine has a blue opaque-ish lid. I might fail miserably, like the lady who made fish soup with beef and replaced the carrots with rutabagas, or something and wondered why her soup tasted so awful....but I will let you all know how it goes!!!
Actually, I prefer the opaque lids. It seems to shade my cuttings, just offers a little more protection from the sun.
Jendudley, I would really like a report on how the field dirt works. Are you sandy there, or do you have some of the Laredo soils? We have black gumbo here.
Have Yall Heard Of Pharr Texas :-P well The Rio Grande Valley....It Is Sooooo hot here i dont think u even need to cover the box lol nahh im playing well this is a good idea i tried a boxwood cutting to how it works but i made my own invention i made a newspaper pot about the size of a can of corn and potting soil and covered it with a half cut 2 liter plastic bottle will that work to i mean i put the top so it can stay moist ok well i dont know what im writing anymore :-P so ill stop here
My good friend Jerry, who owns and operates a wholesale nursery says to try taking cuttings around the last couple of weeks of May. He sticks hundreds of cuttings then, says the wood is as close to perfect then as it will ever be.
Jerry could root a tooth pick, I do believe.
Right now, the temp is 96 degrees, May 27th. It got hot early this year.
Jerry says the main thing is the night temperature. Night temps should be consistantly 70 degrees or higher. A couple of weeks ago, we had a cool front come in with some 50something degree nights, and growers who took their cuttings before then are having problems with them now.
We are rooting roses, roses, and more roses. Crepe Myrtles, boxwoods, jatropha, sages and salvias, azaleas, loropetalum, hydrangea, gardenia. Everything is fair game now!
Really, in the chamber, I start them all the time, any time. I just protect them from freezing or overheating.
Just try it. It could be that I would think your cool temps would be refreshing, as it is really, really hot here now!
You could do some both ways, and find out for yourself what works best in your area. It is very difficult to advise you, and I don't want to tell you wrong.
I lived in Elmira, NY for several years, but that was so long ago, I just can't really recall what the seasons were like. I know winter is very long.........
How would you do it otherwise? Would you use the mat if you were just sticking them in pots? Do you do different things for different plants?
I know, for example, that I have (in 1 qt. pots) cuttings of buddlia, acuba, firespike, peach sage and pineapple sage, and an exotic coleus that I had never seen before. Some are in the shadehouse, some are sitting under a tree on a birdbath. In a greenhouse, I have plumbago, esperanza, cestern, powder-puff, crepe myrtles, corkscrew willow, fig, lemon tree, lantana, and several different varieties of verbena, and several varieties of tomatoes. Quite a hodge-podge. I also have several chambers going with lots of different coleus going, some firespikes, and althea. Also, I am trying tomatoes and eggplant in the chambers too. I have bulb scales in a separate chamber dedicated to that alone.
I propagate because I love it, because I can't help myself. For me, it is fun, and I like to try different things to learn what works best for me. I sell, trade, give away lots and lots of plants too, but the real reason for me doing it is that I love it! I would not do it if it wasn't fun, or if it gave me a lot of grief.
I would counsel to relax, keep everything as clean as possible, and know that probably everything you stick is not going to take. Don't bet the farm on it. Also, know that every variety does not act like every other variety. Roses, for example......
Some, like Mermaid, Seven Sisters, Aimee Vibert are soooooo easy to root. Others, like Mrs. B.R.Cant just are the MOST MISERABLE things to try to root. Two of fifty would probably be average for me. If I am lucky. So.....I don't even try to root Mrs. B.R.Cant anymore, and I don't worry about it.
And I always stick more cuttings than I need. If they all take, I have some to share, if not, maybe I will get what I need for my project.
I hope you will let us know what you do, and how it worked for you.
Thanks so much for posting this. I just got myself a couple of shoe boxes and am ready to begin. How many cuttings can you fit in a box? I know it depends on the kind of cutting, but is it okay if the leaves touch each other for instance?
I do put them in pretty close, but allow a little room between them. I might put 25 little cuttings in one box. I prop the lid open almost daily to allow for air circulation. Be careful that you don't set it in the sun.
I am rooting tomato suckers in some of my boxes now.
I use a deeper container for things like jatropha, althea, hibiscus, and such.
I make my cuttings about 6-8" long, and leave a set of leaves on top. I have seen people do cuttings not more that 3-4" tall, and they do fine too.
This is great, Janie. I'm going to try blueberries with this method. Northern, highbush type. At our elevation in Idaho, the nights will soon be getting cool (please God, hurry with the cool) so I suppose I'll try rooting them indoors. Does anybody know if it's too late (August 8th) to root this year's green stems with blueberry?
Janey, I just wanted to thank you for this method and your bringing it to the forefront again - I have always used the jar-over-pot method, but this is so much easier, with the watering chamber keeping the soil just the right moistness. I have rooted so many things with your method, that eluded me in the past. Try it, folks - IT WORKS!
I took the liberty of posting under another heading on a new thread so everyone can read it - I hope that's ok.
Sounds like this is a great idea. I would like to take cuttings of my new Purple Emporer Sedum now (September) and somehow keep them over winter in the house in order to plant outside in the spring. We have already had one light frost so I must do it soon. I cannot put them out much before the end of May. I never keep houseplants so just wonder what chances of success for this idea might be.
Thanks much. Farmergirl
I rooted a bunch of Helichrysum (Licorice), which is great because I usually start with about 50 cuttings to end up with a couple rooted. Don't know why I have some much trouble with this one.. This method worked great!!
However, how do you get the cuttings out with completely distributing the soil and other cuttings?
I needed to resort to a flexible spatula to get under the cuttings and loosen the soil and remove the cutting.
Anyone have any better ideas?
I usually use a tablespoon, borrowed from the kitchen. It works good to get under the roots, is small enough that it doesn't disturb the neighbors, but big enough that it will carry just about any cutting out of the box.
I am glad for all your successes with this method.
Bulbs are doing o.k.
That is a little bit different process, in that I use a different medium and it is treated beforehand. I will post about it when I can get good pictures of the 'sprouts'.
Also, I have been using this method to start lots of herbs and tomatoes. It works great for them!
I'm going to try using one of the deep clear organic greens/spinach containers for some cuttings using this guideline. I potted up some geranium cuttings but didn't cover them at all. They're losing leaves one by one, so I think I'll put them in the "chamber". I got some lamium "White Nancy" from a city flower box yesterday, and will put them in there, too.
I'm not certain if the lid should remain closed or proped open, as I've read conflicting reports within this post. I'm going to stick bougainvillea, poinsettia, hibiscus and some ivy's, each varity in their own box. How do i determine if lid should be open or closed? Also, is it better to have a clear lid or a solid color (grey non opaque) lid with a clear box?
Thank you for helping a novice, ;-)
I usually stick my cuttings and close the lid and leave it alone. I check to be sure it has enough water, or isn't water-logged. I seldom have a chamber with too much water, unless the medium was too wet to start with.
So, with the medium just damp, and a full well, my cuttings are going to be constantly moist, and they never dry out if I leave the lid closed. The water will collect on the underside of the lid and water the plants over and over again. If you open the lid, the water will evaporate, and the chamber will dry out.
Clear lids are fine. I actually preferr opaque lids, as they don't seem to heat up like the boxes with clear lids, but either will do. Just depends on what is available.
The thing I always stress when I share propagation information is to try everything. If you aren't sure, and you don't have an expert there to show you exactly the one foolproof method, try them all. And don't just stick one or two cuttings. Stick a lot of cuttings! The extras, you can always trade or share with a friend, or find a little space in your garden.
And be sure to keep good records! You think you will remember all these results, but it is hard, we stick so many cuttings, try so many experiments.......Write it down, write it down, write it down. I have been keeping a garden journal for years, and in the past few years those journals have become some of my most valuable possessions. Everybody knows to NOT mess with my journals.
And one other thing. Make a section or a file for each thing. If you are sticking all those things, make a file for each, instead of an entry for cuttings stuck on 12/01/06. In the future, you can add to info you have on Hibiscus, and soon you will have a wealth of information on what worked with hibiscus at such and such a time.
Best of luck.
I was wondering about the open lid/closed lid references, and I went back and read all the posts. In July, I said I was proping open the lids just about daily, and that gave me pause also. I had to check the journal to see what i was rooting then, and it turns out that I was doing seeds. I don't think this is my best choice for starting seeds in summer. Sorry for any confusion.
I was looking for fire vine all year at the local nurseries to fill in a section of fence next to an existing fire vine and then came upon this post and gave it a try in late Oct. Used very large clear container and was successful in rooting 8 fire vine cuttings and a one bouganvillea and one purple bleeding heart. I have been so busy since that I just got around to putting them in 1 gallon pots. Some of the plants were 1ft high!! Started a new conmtainer right away with 4 types of passion vine and more of the spectacular purple bleeding heart i have on back walls.
As for air/watering/light, I keep the container under a very shady tree. check the container once a week, making sure the medium is always slightly moist and the pot always filled. Sometimes sprinkle water on the plants and every other week leave the lid cracked opened for a couple of days to circulate the air and control moisture.
I have come to love this method for two reasons. One, I get to select the exact plant I see growing and duplicate it genetically, picking the ones with the best color and tolerances. For instance, passed by an amazing red passion vine in neighbors yard and asked permission for a few cuttings, hopefully next year I will have the same plant growing in my yard. Two, I save considerable money, I have more time than money these days!!
Wow! You made my day! I am so glad you are having good results.
When you say 'fire vine' what do you mean? Is it like the orange Mexican Flame vine?
I have a hard time rooting vines sometimes. I usually have to resort to layering them to get some to root. My red passionvine is so aggressive, I am going to whack it back, and not propagate it! LOL
Thanks for sharing your good experience!
Yes, sorry i meant mexian flame vine, i ama newbie.
The one in the picture looks great, is it your yard? Laso, the reason I am propegating passion vine is to get free plants and filling in an ugly wood fence about 75ft. thanks agin for your help.
BTW is there any tips on getting that much color in your flame vine? if it is yours? And how do you post pictures.
Not my yard, one that we landscaped for a client.
I don't know where you are, except for zone 10, which is warm. Would you be interested in some Hyacinth Bean vine seeds for your fence? I have more than my share, and they are great vines. Also, I have some moon vine seeds, and some shell pea vine seeds. Love vines.
Just give that flame vine good compost. Too much fertilizer, it will grow green and not bloom much. You could use a little bloom booster, if you just thought you needed it. This vine grows on cotton trash compost.
I will find the link on how to post pics and post it here for you.
Here is a link that might be useful: our hyacinth bean vines
thanks, i live in miami
yes, i would love some Hyacinth Bean vine seeds. Any problem growing next to passion vine, if so, i can plant accross the yard. also, would love some moon vine and pea vine seeds. I am also a lover of vines due to their vertical scale. let me know if i need to send you postage.
Wow! What a great thread...still going since 2005! I'm going to go get myself some shoeboxes and little little clay pots tomorrow.
I saw that another newbie asked what I was wondering: how do you know when you have roots.
My questions are: how much root do you need before you can remove them and plant them....and how do you remove them safely, especially if you have something rooted near something that you don't yet want to disturb (assuming that you might have different things in one container)
Thanks again for the threads!
PS...you said that you might even have your rooting box under your bed....how do they get enough light that way?
If I put the boxes under the bed, it usually contains cuttings that take a good while to root. They don't need light to root.
If you tug on the plant gently and it gives you good resistance, you probably have enough roots to move it. If it is putting on new foliage as well, you definitely can move it. I would rather my plants make more roots in the ground where they are going to live than in the chamber boxes.
The rooting medium, if it is peat/perlite, should be fairly loose. I usually just scoop the plants out with my hand, or use a big spoon for something with fragile stems, like impatiens. Just be sure you have a place to put them when you scoop them out of the box. You don't want to have them setting out in the air for any length of time.
I hope y'all have fun with this. I am going crazy here, sticking cuttings like my life depended on it. Why do we do this? LOL
i also use my hands or spoon, but since i have very little time to pot, i have been leaving my cutting way to long in the chamber, and when I remove them they suffer b/c medium is too loose and roots get dislodged. I am think of trying to put mini peat pots in the container first then fill the container with the meduim, leaving about 1/2 inch of the peat pot sticking out, also leaving the pot in the middle. this way when I am ready to pot i just pull the peat pot out carefully and the root system is largely undisturbed? your thoughts?
That might work.
I think that whatever works for you is fine. I would hate to lose my little plants because the medium fell off. Mine falls off too, but I have a pot ready to put them in or a hole dug in the garden ready to plant them out before I try taking them out of the box. I don't think I ever lost a plant from it.
Good Luck, and let us know what happens.
Heheehe, I hadn't thought of using them. I just use clear plastic shoeboxes with lids.
Just about anything can be put under the bed. Light is not generally a requirement for cuttings making roots. I take them out and check them fairly often, and when they start offering resistance, I take them out from under the bed.
Light is required for growth of plants and for blooms and producing fruit. Not for making roots. I could be wrong on this, but this has been my experience.
Woooeee! I've just decided to give cuttings a try and then I stumbled across this!
A few questions...
- You said FAQs, I don't see a FAQ for this forum. I'm just looking for a general cuttings FAQ on top of this method.
- Was the BoP you tried the desert BoP or the 'tropical' kind?
- Is this for perennials too?
Great idea! I am going to try this idea for some of my rose cuttings - has anyone ever used this chamber idea for rose propogation and had any luck?? I think I will try this idea for some and the rose rustler's technique for others and see which technique works best (I have at least two cuttings from each rose bush). I am also going to try and be vigilant in keeping notes on each technique for the step by step process as they start new growth, etc.
Please let me know if anyone's tried this container technique for rose cuttings. Thanks.
I have used it for roses, and had good luck. I am partial to roses that are easily rooted, the antiques or OGRs. I did use a deeper box, as I like to use a longer cutting for roses and a few other things.
You could reuse the old medium. I reuse mine sometimes, but with things that root easily, or things that are common.
I root a lot of plants that are common. They are great to use in masses, require little care, and they are pretty too.
Good luck!
Hi Janie. Thank you for the info. on roses. I did go out a few days ago and bought a couple taller boxes for my roses. Do you think it would be safe to put in up to 4 roses in one box (it's pretty big) with a 4" pot in the middle and each rose in a corner???
Hi, Janie. I love this 2 year old thread and how helpful you've been with your technique and everyone's questions! So, I set up my chamber about a week ago and in it I have: lantana, cape primrose, buddleya and a couple of other misc things I snipped from my friend's bushes -- about 16 cuttings altogether, plus a couple of succulent leaves (may be too moist for them, but thought I'd give it a try).
Here's my experience so far: I have to refill the resevoir every couple of days. The moisture doesn't seem to get all the way to the corners of the box, which are a little more dry, so I've occassionally misted the contents. The lid does not fit very tightly, so there is not that much humidity inside.
Most cuttings seem to be doing well. However, the lantana are dropping their leaves... I only left 2 leaves on each cutting when I stuck them, and I cut the leaves in half, but they are turning black and dropping off. There does seem to be some new growth -- tiny baby leaves -- on some of the cuttings. Is all this normal? One of the cuttings has a bit of fuzzy mold on it's tip, but only one so far. Is this a problem? Should I remove this one from the box?
I've been trying to resist tugging at them, but I did so today. Some do seem to be resisting and others, no resistance yet. I'll give it another week or two. I have the box on my kitchen counter, so hard to resist checking it often.
Thanks!! Maggie
Somethings root faster than others. It just depends on so many factors, I would hate to hazzard a guess. I would keep an eye on the fuzzy one, and if it persists, yank it out. You might do well to just yank it out anyway, and replace it with a fresh cutting.
I have had lantana drop all it's leaves, then put on new ones. I have also had hibiscus grow the most glorious foliage you ever saw, but didn't have a root one. I just left them alone, and they did make roots eventually.
You might want to try putting 2 little pots in the chamber, one in either end, if you think it would help. I have been known to pull things out and look at them to see if they had roots, but that was a long time ago.
Julie, I would put more than 4 cuttings in that box. You could put all 4 in one corner, and fill the rest with something else. Or take more rose cuttings and fill it up. I don't know about using a 4" pot, but I think it would be worth a try. Just do use well water, rain water, or distilled water. Anything except 'city' water.
Good Luck!
I want to thank the original poster!
I've had numerous cuttings take this spring and I am very happy with the results.
I used an old African Violet pot in the middle of mine and it seems to keep the soil just perfect not too damp not to dry. I sit the box behind my shed and it is shaded all day long. I top the pot up with water about every 2-4 days as my container is a storage box and doesn't have a seal around the top some of the extra moisture just evaporates and escapes.
Works perfect.
- Andrew
I just wanted to thank you for posting this information. I started spirea 2 or 3 weeks ago using your method. I used what I had around the house, because I didnt think it would work for me (due to a previous failed attempt using jars and plastic). Plants that I took the cutting from looked half dead. We are in a drought and temps are in the 100s. I live in Ohio. This is what I found to use.
1. spagnum peat moss(thats all I had, 4 inches in bottom of container)
2. 60 quart rubber maid container
3. little clay pot with silicone in the hole
4. rooting hormone
5. tap water
6. placed in shade on deck
These cuttings are about 9 or 10 inches long. I only removed leaves from the bottom of stem. I added water to the pot last week it was about 1/2 full. That is the only time I looked in there since the initial planting. I pulled one out today and it has 4 roots about 1/2 inch long. Should I wait another week or so to put in pots? I am so excited this worked!!! I also stuck some in pots all those died.
Thank You for taking the time to help us out.
Wow what a site my first time to visit the propagation site. After all these years it's nice to find other people who enjoy stuff like this. I thought I was all alone in this world. Went to Wally World and got to boxes today, one is full of cuttings,will fill the other in the morning. Thanks so much Janie
What a great post. I am so new to propagating and find the most difficult thing for me is to keep the young rooted cuttings alive once I pot them up. Of course that might be due to my lack of being able to keep house plants alive for very long. My only rooting success, so far, has been my hardy rose of sharon that I rooted in potting soil this spring. Now I am stressing how to safely over winter them.
For my first try at the RoS cuttings, I tried the shoe box idea under a shade tree, but my DH damaged the box with a weed eater and did not realize it to give me a heads up, so every thing dried out and died, before I realized what had happened. Conditions were perfect this spring with many days of rain for my new RoS cuttings to root in pots filled with potting soil, uncovered, and kept under a shade tree.
Now after reading everyone of the above follow-up postings I am ready to try with the box and pot method again. Maybe a Spiraea, an Oregon Grape, and some Desert Peace roses. Only this time putting them either under my bed, or on a closet shelf, sounds like the safest place for me to try this method.
Of course then I will still need to find out how to keep them alive when I repot them, and then allow them to go dormant this winter in a manner where they can come back and releaf again next spring.
Janie has mentioned often that the cuttings do not need light to root. When rooting the cuttings in the dark is there any purpose to keep the few leaves at the top. Do the few top leaves that are kept simply die anyway from the lack of light during the rooting time?
Mine don't usually, but I have never kept them in a deep dark, dark place. They might, in that case.
Please let us know about the Oregon grape cuttings. I have never tried rooting cuttings of them, and it is one of my favorite plants.
Heck! Just let us know about everything!
Good Luck!
I appreciate the patience of the Propagation forum for the 'bump up' of this thread. Its especially meaningful to me and I appreciate all of you that contribute here. Thank You!
Little Dani ,
thank you for sharing this great experience.
This is my first visit to propagation forum @ gardenweb although I have been a member for years. I cant wait to get started.
Question : Its now early October and as I begin this wonderful process I imagine I will have several little plants in just a few short weeks. I plan to keep them in a heated greenhouse from November through March.
This is a 5 month stretch . Im also sure I will have to change 'bump them up' to larger pots as time goes by.
A hanging basket size it probably going to be their last up size but could I start them off in that size ? I hope they wont grow to large in the greenhouse before march. I have no experience with a green house ( but have access to one this winter ) and wanted to make up several baskets to sell in the springtime for the children's crisis center.
Thank you so much for your advice .
From the land above the sky , I wish you well
Mountain_grown Appalachia Mountains - Tennessee
I think I would root them first, and do several. Then transfer them to hanging baskets and grow them out.
The reason is the difference in soil requirements. Rooting cuttings require no soil actually, but a 'medium' instead. They don't need to be fed until after they are rooted, either. To start them in soil is to invite pathogens which can kill your cuttings.
After you have them rooted and putting on new growth, plant several in a hanging basket with good potting soil. When they begin to put on new growth, I would start feeding them with a weak water soluable fertilizer. Increase the strength of the fertilizer as they grow.
Good Luck! and let us know how it goes, too!
When the evenings are consistently 70 degrees. It might depend also on what you are trying to root. Some things like it a little cooler to root.
Maine sure is a long way from here....
We are about 180 miles from Mexico, on the gulf coast.
I have never been to Maine, but I have lived in cold climates before. Close to Lake Superior in Michigan, and at Elmira NY. I was young then, and I could handle it. I will never forget learning that we had to plug our car in when it wasn't running, lest the engine freeze. I was just amazed. LOL.
Now, if it gets down to 40 degrees, I pull out the flannel jammies, and throw extra quilts on the bed. My blood is too thin, I think. Or, I could just be a sissy.
Good luck on your cutting and rooting.
I just came across this thread. I wanted to bump it up for others who haven't seen it before. I've been a GW member for years now, but this has been my first trip into the Propagation forum. (I'll be visiting often now!)
I am so excited about this. I can't wait to go get a container or two, some pots, and get started! Unless it roots in plain ol' water, I have no luck with rooting cuttings. You have given me hope that maybe I'll be able to add to my garden without having to grow the majority of the plants from seed!
Thank you!
i had to bookmark it so i will remember it!! thank you so much for bumping it up!! you are so awesome!! i think windyacre did one something like this in the winter sowing forum. but not exactly like this. so every bit helps!! because one way may work for one person and not for the other person while a slight varieation may help work for another person!! and the thing for the roses!! WOW i am sooo there!! LOL my mom does roses and lets me trim them back, so i get to go ahead and keep all the stuff, very tradable!!! LOL if i can just propagate them!! LOL
This is soooo awesome! How about taller cuttings, like oleander or esperanza? Did I not read thoroughly? Sorry if I missed a comment about this. This sounds so easy and so trouble free. I am rooting cuttings right now, in water (oleander), but I just trimmed up my oleanders not too long ago, and am searching for a good container.
Hi Janie,
Thanks so much for sharing your propagation chamber with all of us! I'm going to make one for myself. I have only one question. I've been trying to propagate Jade, which everyone says is so easy, but I've been having 100% losses due to stem rot -- obviously I've got things too wet. I've tried a 1/2 soil-less potting mix to 1/2 perlite (plus rooting hormone), and it seems to drain very freely, but still I get rot. Can you suggest another medium which might give me better success? Perhaps being in your propagation chamber will do the trick, as it will be less likely to be over-watered. What do you think? Have you propagated Jade? Or has anyone else? MacThayer
I don't think I would put the jade into the propagation chamber. I think you would get.....rot.
too wet.
Maybe you need to dry the jade before planting it, like you would geraniums.
Just break off a leaf and allow it to lay out of the sun for a few hours, or even over night. This would cause a callous to form. Then pot it in damp peat/perlite, or whatever favorite medium you like.
I am not promising this to work, but seeing as how everything has resulted in rot to this point, I would have some confidence that it would work.
On the question of taller cuttings, just use a taller container. You might have to put an additional little pot for water in, but if the area is about the same, I would leave it with just one. Oleander roots so easily that we usually root it in the ground, but we are in a very mild climate.
I appreciate the kind words.
What a great idea! In a college floraculture class, we made a little propagator in a large can, filled with sand over gravel and using a piece of hose inserted down the inside edge to add water. This looks so much easier and certainly larger and more useful. I'm going to take cuttings of my beautiful variegated weigela as soon as it stops blooming and try your method. Cool!
How do you know when it is time to move the cuttings to the open air? I had 4 gardenia cuttings in a pot covered, under a bag, and they were doing really well. I gave them a little tug, and they had some resistance, so I removed the bag, and the wilted really quickly. so, I recovered them, but they never fully recovered. when is it time, and how do you do it?
Maybe don't be in a hurry to repot them, especially this time of year. I try to do the transplant thing as gently as possible. Water, water, water, and almost dip them out, so as not to dislodge the soil from the roots.
EVerything here dries out so bad, with the winds. It is VERY humid, but they still dry out. Maybe set them in a protected spot, shade most of the day, and out of the wind. Don't forget to water.
Maybe take the cover off, but leave them in the pot you started them in for awhile yet. If they are rooted, you can feed them a bit, half strength at first. Let them put on additional foliage, and make sure they have a good root system. They will need all they have as they are trying to get over the shock of transplanting.
That is the best I know to tell you. Maybe somebody else might have some ideas.
Best of luck!
The medium could have been too wet? You need enough moisture to keep the medium damp, but not puddles of water in the bottom of the chamber. Where did you put it?
I have had things that molded, but it doesn't happen often. I just started over.
i've been going to make one of your giant chambers, but haven't got around to it yet, LOL but what i have been doing is this, i have been using the 4" pots and those cell packs for my rooting thingi, put dirt in it, then i get the things that i'm trying to root, dip them in the horomone, then i put them in the dirt, then i put the pot,or cell packs in gal or 2 gal size baggies, blow air into it til its all puffed out, zip all the way shut. then i wait a few weeks and i usually have roots. ohhhh and i make sure that my plants are misted befor i put them in, and the soil is damp, i've been using stay green soil with aqua control i find it at lowes at 10.97 , in 3 cu ft size. it feeds for 9 months!!! i LOVE that!! LOL and its very light when its not wet, so i love that too!! LOL hope this helps someone who cant make the chamber just yet!! LOL I'm a major procrastonator!! LOL as my mom says!! she say's "leanne!!! stop procrastinating and do something about it or it'll never get done!!" (my middle name LOL) you know your introuble then!!! LOL) Medo :'))
This looks like it could be a great space-saving technique. Based on my reading, it doesn't appear that stacking the boxes would have any negative effects.
It's very similar to the pot in pot method I use. BUT, the possibility of stacking box upon box of cuttings thrills me.
If anyone has tried stacking them and had problems, please let me know BEFORE I fill the extra room. (Obviously, I will need enough room to rotate the boxes through the stacks so that I can check each one.)
I stack them all the time. I have a potting table that I can line them up at least 4 across,end to end, then stack 4 high. I do move them around and keep an eye on them all.
hi janie
ive been on gw for a couple of years but just came across this thread. its awesome! i have cuttings on the way and had a question. i made a chamber while brainstorming but now i wonder if i should do it your way. i put 3 pots (50peat,50perlite) in a cake dome with a heating mat do you think i could add the water pot into the dome without having to use the whole bottom as the place for the rooting medium?
great thread keep it going
its right side up with a plastic trash bag on top to keep in the humidity. i made it this way so that i wouldn't have to lift the tank to get into it, (i have puny biceps;) and it works a little too well. i have to open the top to let the leaves dry out in the morning. you usually cant see into it because of the condensation.
the reason im trying this is that im trying to root hoyas and they dont need much soil wetness but high humidity until they root. i kept the pots in it for a week before i potted the cuttings and they felt like they kept the initial moisture they had when they went in.
heres a pic after opening the chamber to let the leaves dry off a little bit:
the three pots on the left are the cuttings, on the right is your water pot on top of a heating rock to promote the humidity factor.
let me know what you think. i love new ideas and combining ideas to make something new.
This has been so interesting reading. I live in zone 5 along the KS-NEB border and have several annuals that I will try to root in the fall/winter. I have geraniums, begonias, impations, coleous, petunias, and calibraca(sp). Can all of these be put into the progation chamber? Do any of them besides the geraniums need to dry before putting into the chamber? I will move/leave my flower pots inside when the weather is too cold, probably around octotber. When do I take cuttings off and put into the chamber so I can replant them into new pots and be ready to go outsdie in April? I don't want my new plants to become tall and spinly, as we have very strong winds. Can I keep the chamber downstairs where it is fairly cool and dark? Then put the new plants in a warmer, brighter location when started. If I can get this to work, it will save me lots of $ in the spring. Thanks for all the advice. Lola
Janie congrats on this post! It has been running for a LONNNNNGGGGG TIME!!! But that just means it is a super fantastic thread! I have been on GW for a while too and have never seen this thread until today! It took me a long time to read EVERYTHING, but I DID! lol, didn't want to miss anything!
I think this was a great idea and I will be trying it myself, I have had some luck with the method medo said she used, but it is really iffy with that one for me. BUT this I think I can do.
persephonita, I think rot root is caused by a bacturium in the soil if I am remembering my reading right. So no it should have an effect on the cuttings you take. Go research root rot to make sure though. I have been reading so much lately it is starting to be confusing.
Thanks again Janie, this was really fun to read, and very much needed info for me!
:) Fran
I have been watching this thread for a long time and I decided to make something very similar and I made two different versions, instead of using a pot in the middle I just used little pots and put the cutting in the soil. I also used small Dixie type cups with holes in the bottom, I cover one of the units with plastic wrap to keep the humidity up and the other one I just used the top that come with it. I was going to post some pictures but I have ran into a little trouble.
The Dixie cups I have used now have some type of fungus growing on the outside of the cup, kind of white in color and kind of clear. I think the chamber is too humdid and causing the cups to start to mold. I have the chamber inside our garage and it does get some sunlight but not at all direct light.
I was trying to grow some cuttings from some shrubs, crap myrtle, and various other plants, and I was trying two different types of rooting hormones to see what does the best.
What should I do about the mold? Toss everything and start over? Try potting them in different containers, take the plants out of the chamber for a while and see if the mold goes away? Or do nothing and see what happens. By the way the cuttings have only been in there since Tuesday night.
Thanks for anyoneÂs input.
If it is growing fungus and/or mold, it isn't going to root, and the mold is not going away.
I would throw it all out, bleach the box and lid, and start over with sterile medium. Also, clean your nippers, pruning shears, and anything else that comes into contact with your cuttings with a 10% bleach solution. I clean mine every time I leave one plant to go to another, so as not to transfer anything.
If I use Dixie cups or styrofoam cups, I put holes around the bottom edge, on the side of the cup. The holes don't get stopped up like the bottom holes do, for some reason, and your cuttings won't stay too wet.
Your cuttings don't need any light at this point, so the garage is a good place for them.
I am sorry about your cuttings. Just start over. I have had to do it a million times. I think everybody does.
Good Luck!
this is a WONDERFUL idea, janie! thank you for posting this.
i actually had all of the necessary items around the house, and am about to test it out for myself. i'd love to try to propagate my senecio rowleyanus (string of pearls), but i'm a true novice to propagation. i don't mind trial and error, though!
Well, hmmmmmmmmm...
I don't know what you are trying to root, or when you took the cuttings, so it is a little hard to answer you.
Did your cuttings have leaves when you stuck them, and they turned brown and crispy after you stuck them? If so, they are probably dead. Are the top ends of your plants dried up and shrivled? If so, they are probably dead.
Also, how long have they been in the chamber?
If they look dead, I would be probably take one up to check it out.
If they are dead, rip them out and start all over. Theres nothing else to do.
Good Luck!
Yes you described what the cuttings look like. I went out after reading your post and pulled them out. The artic willow also looked dead but it had some roots on it so I tucked it back. Should I bring the willow cutting outside? They are in a shed at the time being and that might be the problem. I may have it to hot in there. What is the temp it should be for the best results. I sure appreciate all your help on this and for sharing with us this chamber. I will say the things I started a month earlier did fine so maybe it just got to hot in the shed.
Well Janie...my thanks to you and all those who have tried your clever idea, and for answering the multitude of questions on this thread.
Because in less than 1 hour I have gained almost 3 years worth of knowledge and expirence gleaned from dozens of people working with your idea.
I took my first cuttings just a few days ago....dipped them in 5-15-5 started/hormone and stuck them in a fine sand over top small gravel. I mist them when I think about, and they stay mostly in the shade. So far so good.
I am looking for all the pieces for a mister/fogger unit to use with a propagation bed, but will also try your clever idea tomorrow. I have dozens of these plastic containers in my shop storing various bits of junk....might as well use them for cuttings!!
I absolutely LOVE this thread! Question for you, Janie ... when you do cuttings of the tomato suckers, are they for the current year, or do you do them for the coming year? As I live in Zone 6, I would have to have a greenhouse in order to grow them for the coming year, and I'm not sure if that would even work, as they are so fragile. I'm working on getting a greenhouse anyway, but was wondering if you had any experience regarding this?
I just root the suckers of the spring tomatoes to go into the fall garden. We garden year around, and this is a very easy and economical way to get tomato plants.
If I lived where you do, I would grow my tomatoes from seed. They are easy to germinate, and you can have a huge variety of tomatoes. Check out the link.
click on tomato seeds or heirloom tomato seeds.
Good Luck!
Here is a link that might be useful: Totally Tomatoes
Thank you for this wonderful idea. I've just had 34 out of 35 clivia seeds germinated by using this propagation chamber. The wonderful thing was that very little effort was put into the project. Besides filling the reservoir every few days, I just had to make sure that the temperature stays within range, that the humidity is high enough and that there is no other unwanted growth. I am now in the process of germinating more clivia seeds (9 of which are from prized specimens), then I want to germinate seeds that I have from other plants. The possibilities is now endless, and I now have six of these chambers.
I apologize for that last post. I didn't take the time to read the entire thread and see that my question was answered. I'll start with my blue lid boxes tomorrow.
ps Once I did post it occurred to me to simply search for the word "opaque" in the thread. Duh!
I have used the larger Rubbermaid containers (about 16 inches deep) for years to root roses in a room in my basment that I have set up for my plants and accessories. My lack of success on many was too much water! Now that I have learned to restrain myself with misting - I don't do it at all most of the time as the lids keep the medium damp. I use the peat cups for roses. This summer I tried some other cuttings for various plants (sages, lantana, celadine poppy, hydrangeas) and it has been very successful! I remove all the leaves except the very top ones and sometimes cut them in half if they are large.
OH, just a comment: once I got very frustrated because some roses were taking so long to root so gave up, turned the lights off, and left them. A couple months later went to throw them away and half of them had rooted!! In the dark and being neglected.
Ok, I just started my chamber. I bought two boxes but just have one started. I put in esperanza, lady banks rose, jasmine, holly bush and coral vine. We'll see how the experiment goes.
About 4 months ago my sister and I found a bamboo grove. We didn't have any tools but pulled some up anyway, actually just broke it off. I realized it was just going to die so I propped it up against the house. About 2 months ago, I needed a stick for something and used that bamboo pole. I then just stuck in a pot where my wisteria is growing and now the bamboo is shooting up from the sides of the stick. The stick is hollow! I pulled it up to see that it had actually grown roots from that old stick. I know its the running bamboo so I'm leaving it in that pot just to watch what happens. My sister couldn't believe it. Accidential propogation!
Hello everyone,
Thank you Janie for a wonderful contribution!! I am new to the forums and a bit new to gardening altogether... I have found a bell pepper plant that I just LOVE, but they are a bit expensive and apparantly can't be grown from seed since they are a hybrid.
I have been searching for days on the net for information about propogating bell pepper plants from cuttings and have had absolutely no luck at all.
Is there anyone here that can tell me what the best way to root them would be? I am planning on trying the chamber in an old 10 gallon aquarium with plastic wrap over the top to seal it. I live just north of Dallas TX and it got cold enough to freeze last night... I only took my cutting yesterday and have them in vermiculite right now with a little bit of powdered rooting hormone on the cuttings.
From reading this VERY long and informational post, I have already decided to put the chamber on top of my stand up freezer, since it will provide it with warmth and not too much light, and go to a 50/50 mix of vermiculite and spaghnum peat moss.
Some questions I have that I haven't seen asked are; would a product like superthrive be good or bad to add to the water? Since it will be sealed with plastic wrap like a terrarium, would it be better to let some air in occasionally? And would it be good to keep adding the superthrive to the water if I use it at all?
Any ideas or suggestions for this would be EXTREMELY welcome, since I will likely only get one shot at it this year!
I'm excited about trying the prop. chamber. It is cold here in W. PA. I think I will have to start with seeds, all my plants have been long ago frozen. But when Spring comes, I'm going to try roses. I wonder how the African Violet cup worked in the camber, as I have several of them. The water leaches through them also. What a fun time I've had reading through all the comments. Thanks Janie.
Using a variation of this method, I now have rooted green and gold euyonmous, gardenias (yes, I know), butterfly bushes, some roses, a blue salvia, pineapple sage, pyracantha, some purple shrub, mandevilla, confederate jasmine, and a lot of other things too. I use rope lighting on a metal shelf for some bottom heat in my basement. Once I see roots, I put a 4' shop light over the containers. I pot everything with roots into small plastic cups and put them in larger containers for a few weeks. Once I'm sure they're well rooted, they'll go out into the cold frame to wait out the winter.
I use plain sand. I've had too much rot on me using soil. The sand allows the water to drain away from the leaves and stay at the bottom. My only problem has been a few gnats. For most plants (except roses), I've had about 90% success.
Thanks for the idea.
I used two unopened bags of miracle grow spagnum moss and perlite to make a medium (50/50). The mold took over pretty bad. I've since found this peat moss molds really bad within 2-3 days after being wet regardless of ventilation. What a bunch of crap.
Anyway, a few months ago I tried to root Rosa Carolina stem cuttings dipped in rooting hormone with zero success.
Sorry you had such rotten luck, midwesternerr.
I have learned to expect some problems, anticipate them even, and be ready for them if they occur. One thing is that I use just plain old peat moss and perlite, as a rule. Sand is very good, and for roses, I like to use something called 'soil conditioner'. I am not sure what it is, exactly, and I can't always find it, but it is larger pieces of materials; nothing dense. It has something to do with improving tilth of the soil. It seems to work very well on roses. I don't use anything that implies that it will feed my cuttings. Miracle Grow spagnum moss is different from plain old peat moss, I would think.
I would urge you to try again. There is nothing like that first success!
Hey Jani and others, wanted to let you know I now start my Impatiens from seed this way, and have had great germination.
I tried some begonia cuttings and they preformed well also.
May just go ahead and try soe peppers and mater seeds and see what happens..who knows, maybe I can get rid of my heatmat and propagation chamber set up!
awesome tutorial, especially the pictures! my grandma can propagate anything, seriously, she has two green hands. thus far I haven't been very successful, but I'm going to try this soon! won't it be fun to impress grandma and let her thing maybe I actually inherited a green thumb after all :)
I was just reading some of the posts, since I have not been here in a while, and I noticed that I never did give Jimmy an answer to his pepper question.
I would think you could root pepper cuttings just as you would anything else. Just be sure that you nave a node or two in the rooting medium.
Pepper hybrids can be started from seeds. It is just that they won't always come back true. For example, with an orange, you have a 50/50 chance that it will have good orange fruit. But if you planted every seed you saved from this plant, you are bound to get some good seeds.
As for the Superthrive, I don't think I would use it in the beginning. I don't use any kind of fertilizer or hormones in the rooting chamber. I do like to use it when I transplant my rooted cuttings from the box.
Good Luck!
I finally got all of my supplies together. In the mean time I took cuttings and put them in water and have little roots on a few of them - those are going in first! Janie you are an angel for posting over all of these years. May you have many many more years in which to garden!
Hey everyone,
Just want to let everyone know that I'm new to this forum and growing plants. I came across this posting while doing a google search, trying to find info on rooting cuttings from a red/pink(?) dogwood tree. Its a beautiful tree that's about 40yrs old, and would like to clone several so to plant along a fence line. I have some questions that I could not find within this thread of posts.
Will the propagation chamber work for dogwood?
Which is better sand or the peat moss?
Right now its about mid spring. Should I do this indoors?
If rooting does happen, can I transplant this year or wait till next spring.
And finally, will the new little trees grow to flower pink or will they be white?(I ask this because I read that dogwoods have to be made pink by buding or grafting.)
Thanks in advance.
Hello again,
I posted the question above about dogwood trees.
I wanted apply the same questions to japanese maple trees.
with one more question to include.
After cutting, how long do I have before the cuttings go bad?
I have a friend that has the japanese maple and he says I can have some cuttings. he lives a couple hours away from me.
To hassified (7)- Please be advised that it is very difficult to propagate trees from cuttings. Hardwood trees are not going to root. I don't know about your dogwood, but I would think you would have success propagating them from seed.
I don't know about Japanese maple.
In any case, you can keep cuttings viable for a good while if you will wrap the cut ends in damp paper towels, and put them in a 1 gallon plastic Ziploc bag. Just before you completely seal the bag, blow into it, enough to blow up the bag like a balloon. You fill the bag with carbon dioxide, which benefits the plants. It really helps them. Also, keep them out of the sun. I have kept cuttings good for several days in this manner.
Good luck!
I live in zone 8 (Washington state) and would love to start some cuttings. You mentioned you sometimes put your starters under your bed???? REALLY??? I ask because I don't really have anywhere to set cuttings while they root. I DO have a sauna that seats 3 people in my house. The top of the sauna is about 1 1/2 feet from the ceiling. It is well insulated, so that area doesn't get hot when we use the sauna.
Not sure if you were kidding about "under the bed"...do they need light???...more light than would be over my sauna? (It would have about the same amount of light as if I were to put them on the open soffits above kitchen cabinets...if I HAD open soffits.)
Under the bed, atop of the fridge, just wherever I have room for them. They do not require light to root, and there really isn't anything interesting to see while they are developing roots, so scooting them under the bed is a good place for them, out of the way until they are ready. The top of that sauna should work just fine. Good luck, and have fun!
THANKS for your quick response! I'm doing some yard clean-up right now, and have found several things I'd like to try and propagate. I've even got a stack of plastic shoe boxes I just emptied while doing some Spring cleaning, and I have several small new clay pots in my yard shed! I'm ready to get this all started! WOO HOO! You've got another convert! Great thread!


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A short film that tells the story behind the 'Keep Calm and Carry On' poster. Its origins at the beginning of WWII and its rediscovery in a bookshop in England in 2000, becoming one of the iconic images of the 21st century.
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Betting on the House
U.S. home prices are climbing again, but at more measured rates than during the last boom. Why the housing cycle still has room to run. Plus, Barron's market-by-market assessment of the top 50 U.S. housing markets.
Why Coke Could Regain Its Fizz
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Air France-KLM: Time to Lift Off
The Franco-Dutch airline has been cutting costs and restructuring in an effort to end years of losses, and its shares now look cheap compared to those of other big European airlines, Barron's says.
A Lion in Winter
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Barron's Quiz: Test Your Wall Street Wizardry
Test your powers of prediction with 17 questions about the stock market, the economy, and more in 2014. Entry deadline is Friday.
Our Small-Cap Picks Muscle Up
Barron's 37 small- and mid-cap stock picks for 2013 are up 20.3%, compared with a 14.3% return for their benchmarks. A handful of them are still attractive.
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Improving corporate earnings could fuel European stocks in 2014, which should be another good year for bank shares and German equities. But France and Italy remain worries, Barron's says.
Asian Trader: Where to Bet in Asia in 2014
Investors looking to profit in Asia in 2014 should focus on the region's Northeast and forget its Southeast, while keeping an eye open for an Indian surprise. Barron's explains.
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David Pyott masterminded Allergan's makeover into a leader in cosmetic procedures and products, launching the field of "medical aesthetics." Barron's explores how it beautifies the bottom line, too.
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By Rob George Friday 04 January 2013 Updated: 04/01 10:29
A RECENT jazz evening held by the Friends of Droitwich Spa Lido (FODSL) raised more than £700 to support the Lido.
Guests enjoyed a cheese and wine supper and the fine sounds of George Huxley and his All Star Jazz band during the evening at Sacred Heart Hall.
FODSL member Sheila Preston, said: "It was a super evening and I would like to thank everyone who attended especially our Mayor, Coun Anne Taft and all those who supplied raffle prizes."
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Other Collectibles / Re: Sideshow Premium Format Figures« on: July 26, 2012, 02:05 AM »
I got a few Sideshow gift cards at the SDCC, Just PM me if you want one and I'll give you the code.
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No Jason said HE got word, I said I asked. I was just agreeing with the post since I asked myself and got the same response,There are two diffrent people.Yes at SDCC I asked them about the display and it will definitely be for sale.
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Well it's been a little over a month since I last opened one of these and it's coming along nicely. The carbonation has come through and I'm now tasting some caramel and a hint of smokey-ness. The overly sweet taste has diminished a bit too.
There is still no carbonation in the beer. The flavor is great but is absolutely flat. Any ideas on how to tackle this? I was thinking of opening the bottles and adding a priming tab or sugar solution. My only worry is that the yeast won't be viable with the lack of oxygen in the bottles. Any ideas?
Figured I'd give an update just in case anyone comes across this in the future.
It's been almost 20 weeks in the bottle and still no carbonation so I've decided to do an experiment to try and get them carbed up.
I sanitized everything, popped the tops and added measured amounts of corn sugar to each. 1.8, 2, and 2.2 grams. I don't know if the yeast is still viable but I guess I'll find out in a few weeks.


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Canadians Merdarahta, featuring Fuck The Facts' Topon Das and Melanie Mongeon, recently released their new album, As The Dark Clouds Swept Away We Could See The Sunset, on January 20. The band also features members of The Sun Through A Telescope, Mekhaya and others, and combines experimental ambient noise with doom and drone. In an interview with American Aftermath, Das discussed how Merdarahta came to be and how much of a departure it is from Fuck The Facts, as well as the writing process for As The Dark Clouds Swept Away We Could See The Sunset, the theme behind the album and more. Continue reading
THE GREAT SABATINI Streaming New Track "Bleeder Of The Pack"
I love coming across free compilations. I mean, you check them out because a single band on there piques your interest and then the next thing you know, you've discovered five new bands to follow. Well, a band that we love here at AA, The Great Sabatini has been featured on a new compilation and in doing so, they have a brand new track streaming. The track is called "Bleeder Of The Pack" and it sits comfortably on the Sludge Hummer Septic Murk-Tape Vol.2 alongside Greber, Godstopper and Fuck The Facts. Check out the track below. Continue reading
GREBER (FUCK THE FACTS, THE GREAT SABATINI) Streaming New Album "Kiln Hardened Psalms"
Thunderous bass and drum duo Greber have premiered their forthcoming full length, Kiln Hardened Psalms, over at Exclaim.ca. The duo is comprised of The Great Sabatini drummer/vocalist Steve Vargas and Fuck the Facts' bassist/vocalist Marc Bourgon. When these two get together, sludgy mayhem is made. The band issued the following statement regarding the new record:
"Hardened Psalmsis about restraint, skill, emotion and the sound of two awesome dudes, one riding a bass like a surfboard, the other in a drum kit like a barrel, plunging down the steepest face of Mount Everest, sober but mad, screaming their way through the almost impassable barrier of snow, rock, trees, starving animals and unstoppable velocity."
If that sounds awesome to you, then check out the album over at Exclaim.ca now.
Kiln Hardened Psalms will be released on November 1st through the band themselves and Handshake, Inc.
FUCK THE FACTS Streaming New EP "Abandoned"
After releasing two songs from their new three-song EP, Fuck The Facts are now streaming said EP. The Abandoned EP is the bands first work since their Amer EP was released last year. As usual, Fuck The Facts decimate all with their powerful grinding madness. Click on over after the jump and stream Abandoned you'll love it. Continue reading
FUCK THE FACTS Streaming New Track "Disabused"
Everyone's favorite Canadian grindcore outfit Fuck The Facts will be releasing their new Abandoned EP in October and the band has unleashed their new track "Disabused." As always, Fuck The Facts kill this track, but then again, who would ever doubt the masterful grind that FTF have been releasing all these years? Check out this rad track after the jump. DO IT. Continue reading
FUCK THE FACTS Streaming New Track "L'Impasse"
My favorite French-Canadian grinders Fuck The Facts will be releasing their new Abandoned EP in October and the band has unveiled a monstrous new track titled "L'impasse" and you've got to hear this shit. It's chock full of Fuck The Facts goodness that reeks of the bands Die Miserable, which makes sense, seeing as these tracks were brought to life during the recording of said album. Check out the new track after the jump and get blasted, fool. Continue reading
FUCK THE FACTS Announce Tour Dates
Canadian grinders Fuck The Facts have announced tour plans that start as soon as this weekend. The band will head out on the 12th for the Grinding The US And Canada Tour and if you're in the vicinity of any of these shows and you don't go see one of the most interesting bands in grindcore, you're just a loser. Check out the dates after the jump. Continue reading
FUCK THE FACTS Announce Mexican Tour, Release WARSORE Cover
Contrary to popular belief, the Canadian grindfiends who released Disgorge Mexico have actually never toured Mexico. Until today that is. That's right, Fuck The Facts will kick off their Mexican tour alongside Landmine Marathon and Rottenness on this very day. After the jump you can peep the dates and you can also check out FTF's rad cover of Warsore's "Thief," which will be released at some point on a Warsore tribute album. Radness all around. Continue reading
FUCK THE FACTS Streaming New EP
Canadian grinders Fuck the Facts's new EP, Amer, is up for streaming and grabs over at the band's Bandcamp page. These seven new songs are quite the kick in the teeth! Stream this grinding bastard directly below along with their music video for the track "L'enclume et le Marteau".
Damaging Northern Winds: FUCK THE FACTS Streaming New Track
Fuck The fucking Facts, man. I've been friends with these dudes for a good while and I always look forward to new music from them. They never disappoint and they always destroy. It wasn't too long ago that Fuck The Facts released their debut single off of Amer, "L'enclume et le marteau," which ruled. Now these crazy canucks are back with another destroyer. Continue reading
The Anvil & The Hammer: FUCK THE FACTS Streaming New Track
Canadian grind veterans Fuck The Facts are currently prepping the release of their new EP Amer which is set for release this Summer. Whenever I go into new Fuck The Facts, I expect perfection. I know these dudes (and lady) and I know they are capable of absolute awesomeness. Well, of course, I was right. This new track "L'enclume et le marteau," which means "The Anvil and The Hammer," is a fucking riot. Continue reading
Exclusive Interview: Topon Das of FUCK THE FACTS
If you've been reading this site for a while, you'd know I used to do Q&A's with my good friend, and Fuck The Facts guitarist Topon Das a lot. It's been a while since he and I have really talked, so I decided it was time to resurrect the "Talking With Topon" section of American Aftermath. So read on to find out about Fuck The Facts' upcoming tour, new album and what Topon has been doing when not ripping that six-string.
She's In Another Castle: Check Out LETTERS FROM THE PRINCESS
Remember Did You Just Hex Me?? I've talked about them here before. They were a band that I really loved that ended far too quickly. I knew that Did You Just Hex Me?'s vocalist Brandon May has been working with another band formed from members of other Ottawa bands called Letters From The Princess but I hadn't check into them yet. Well, after hearing the band's demo, I can some one thing. Continue reading
FUCK THE FACTS Release "DRIFT" Music Video
Yesterday Canadian grinders Fuck The Facts released a video for the song Drift (via Metal Injection) off of their latest album "Die Miserable". I honestly have no idea what the fuck I just watched so I'll just let the director explain the video.
When I first read the lyrics to 'Drift' I was blown away by the sentiment: "we used to be friends, but now we are not, did I do something to offend you or was there some unknown, unseen force that drove us away from each other". Friends. People. They fuck you over, stick you in the back and spit in your face while you are down. People you would trust with your life stick you with a dirty AIDS needle for a fucking nickel. Evil. Death. Inevitable. That's how I felt after reading the lyrics. Mel is a genius and here lyrics perfectly capture the modern trend of disposable friends.
I knew on reading the lyrics that I wanted two children in the video. Innocence. Driven apart by a dark force – represented here by a mask figure. Dark. Mysterious. Unknown. A threat. A baby in a nest being stalked by birds of prey. That's life.
Of all the videos I have made I am probably most proud of this one because it got me back to my roots. I filmed, edited, color corrected and did the graphics all myself. Fuck friends.
Sounds pretty rad, right? Continue after the jump to watch the video for Drift. Continue reading
Okay, you might have noticed that the last few days haven't had my signature "Mourning Jam" posts. There is a reason for this. I wanted to get a jump start on the news day, so I took the playlist out and inserted news. I am moving the playlists to Saturdays from here on because I will be ceasing my posts on Saturday.
You have to understand, I work twelve and a half hours on Saturday so when I get off of work, the last thing I want to do is blog. Sorry, I get tired just like real people. So that's why the playlists will be my only post on Saturday unless some life-altering news arises. Anyway, listen to Fuck The Facts latest record Die Miserable. Enjoy.


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I like to jungle, and have been mainly jungling for the past week or so(I also top lane if that is needed). I mainly play Maokai and he is awesome, I love him now that I have a more solid build order and playstyle I use.
Anyhow, my question is, who should be my next jungling champion? I have 6.3k IP have been thinking of a few, they are as follows: Lee Sin, Shyvanna, and Skarner. I have played then all and that is part of the problem, not sure who to get.
If somebody could help by pointing out and comparing them in various ways like: ganking, jungle speed, how buff dependable, late game usefulness, etc. it would be appreciated. Or if you have another idea for somebody that would also be welcome. Thank you in advance.
Go Shyvana. She is very fun to play with! xD
Look at this guide: http://www.mobafire.com/league-of-le...s-he-do-114118
It gives a run down of pretty much every jungler.
dps skarner is much better with my build your shield is huge and you still have resists and 3000 health
but you have 1.27 attacks speed I believe, and 500 ap and almost 200 ad, and you heal for so much that your just as tanky this is my build that I have gotten Quadra kills with, much better then straight tank, you start with clothe and 5 pots for jungle, then get ninja tabi get vampiric scepter then get sheen then gunblade , then nashors,then lichbane then a tank item, then deathcap. for the record
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Golden Classics (1996)
|Artist: D.J. Rogers
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Format: CD
Manufacturer: Collectables Records
Sku: 60016663
Release Date: 11/5/1996
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Song Listing
Disc 1
Song Title
1. Love Brought Me Back ~ DJ Rogers
2. When Love Is Gone ~ DJ Rogers
3. Yesterday Never Returns ~ DJ Rogers
4. Sold On You ~ DJ Rogers
5. You Take Me Higher (Brazilian Lover) ~ DJ Rogers
6. All My Love ~ DJ Rogers
7. Trust Me ~ DJ Rogers
8. Love Cycles ~ DJ Rogers
9. In Love Again, Standing On The Edge Of Paradise ~ DJ Rogers
10. Never Has A Reason To Dance 'Til Now ~ DJ Rogers
11. You Can Have It For A Song ~ DJ Rogers
12. Your Love Keeps Me Satisfied ~ DJ Rogers
13. Say You Love Me ~ DJ Rogers
14. Let My Life Shine (Part 1) ~ DJ Rogers
Album Notes and Credits
Notes & Personnel Info
|Personnel: D.J. Rogers (vocals).
|Liner Note Author: Mark Marymont.
|DJ Rogers' Golden Classics is truly a best-of set as it culls tracks from the singer/songwriter/keyboardist's releases on RCA and Earth Wind & Fire founder Maurice White's Columbia-distributed label ARC. The CD not only includes his classic acoustic piano-laced ballad "Say You Love Me" and hit "Love Brought Me Back," but its charming groover follow-up "All My Love," the chugging steppers favorite "Trust Me," the swirling, dynamic "Love Cycles," and the brisk gospel-ish "Let My Life Shine." Besides these singles, there are little-known album gems like the sweet thumper "Sold on You" from the Love Brought Me Back LP. Many tracks feature the top-notch skills of bassist Keni Burke. Rogers' other greatest-hits CD is The Message Man: The Best of DJ Rogers. ~ Ed Hogan
Compilation Appearances
|Soul Hits Of 70s
|Death Row Archives:soundtracks(Explicit Version)
Technical Info
|Release Date : 03/14/2006
|Original Release Date : 1996
|Catalog ID : 5823
|Label : Collectables
|Number of Discs : 1
|Studio/Live : Studio
|Mono/Stereo : Stereo
|SPAR Code : n/a


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Great White Shark feeding on the carcass of a dead whale. We filmed this on our way back to port after a day of ghost trap removal in the channel islands with Ocean Defenders Alliance. oceandefenders.org. This was a large male shark, as evidenced by its size relative to a 30 foot whale carcass. He circled cautiously for 10 to 15 minutes, then would cruise in and take a huge bite, then go back to circling. The very first shot is a pass he made by the camera just after we lowered it into the water. He seemed to be investigating the sound of the splash. This was filmed off the coast of California, between Ventura and Anacapa Island.
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