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Chris Canas At The Wild Bull Friday, March 20
Series Opener Kev Nichols Thrilled The Crowd On March 13
by Lynn Headapohl
Kevin Nichols and Blue Tuesday opened the new Spring into the Blues Series at downtown Kalamazoo's Wild Bull on Friday, March 13 with his usual high-energy ride through the blues. Wailing on guitar as he served up his husky,
galvanizing vocals, Kev was a driving force backed by his dynamic band of top-notch players. It was good to hear fellow guitarist Tony Riske, back with the group after an apartment fire kept him from performing at the KVBA Second Sunday series in December. Heather Kulaga's spirited backing on bass combined with the unflagging energy of Ken Smith on drums to generate the compelling beat that brought folks out to the dance floor. Great show!! Good to see you all there!! Ladies get in FREE, which is a great deal! Can't beat the half-priced drinks, either.
This Friday, March 20, Ann Arbor's Chris Canas Band will take the stage. To quote the band's bio statement: "the Chris Canas Blues Revolution can be seen blazing a trail in the Metro Detroit area and beyond. Front man Chris Canas, self proclaimed soldier for the blues, has put together a who's who of veteran musicians to help keep the blues alive in the hearts of all music lovers. The C2B Revolution has a well blended set of classic covers and funky smooth originals that keep the audience jumping and the party going. The group is as diverse as they come with interesting backgrounds in music. This band is driven to pump new life into "The Blues" as well as embracing the rich traditional roots of the past. Brace yourselves for the Explosion.
So take yourself to downtown Kalamazoo this Friday night to enjoy one of our newest blues venues! Doors open at 8:00 pm and music starts at 9:00, and yes, it's still Ladies'
Tedeschi Trucks Band To Appear At The State Theater May 13!
When Derek Trucks and Susan Tedeschi decided to dispense with their much-loved individual bands and pool their talents, they had no way of knowing what the public reaction might be to the new hybrid. They found out quickly enough when "Revelator" – Tedeschi Trucks Band's 2011 studio debut – excited their sizable, devoted fan bases and the movers and shakers of the music industry alike, landing TTB both a Best Blues Album Grammy and a Blues Music Award for Album of the Year. Their live followup, "Everybody's Talkin'" – documenting what many were already regarding as one of the most superb concert acts around, not even two years into the band's existence – continued that forward momentum and picked up a Blues Music Award for Best Rock Blues Album. Derek, Susan, and the rest of the 11-member band consistently crank out powerful live performances night after night, and this tour is sure to be no different.
And what better place to enjoy this amazing show than at the Kalamazoo State Theater, the classic entertainment venue that has gone through major renovations in sound, lighting, and physical appearance over the last year. With standout performances by blues greats like Tab Benoit and Gregg Allman under its belt, the new, improved State Theater is continuing to mine the rich veins of classic and modern blues by bringing the Tedeschi Trucks Band to its stage on Wednesday, May 13, at 7:30 pm. The doors will open at 6:30 pm, and reserved seating ticket prices include : Gold Circle $75, Orchestra/Mezzanine and Balcony $49, and Back of Balcony $39.50.
There will be a ticket presage Thursday 3/19, from 11:00 am to 11:00 pm. Visit the State Theater box office, or use the link below to order online.
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March Is Blues Month At The Wild Bull: Spring Into The Blues Series
Kev Nichols, Chris Canas, and Jim Shaneberger Bands to Appear Consecutive Fridays in March
Once again, the Wild Bull is offering local blues fans a chance to indulge themselves with some of the best of regional talent. Each of the three bands featured in the Wild Bull's Spring Into The Blues Series has competed at the International Blues Challenge (IBC) in Memphis, as well as appearing multiple times on local stages. The Jim Shaneberger Band represented the KVBA at the 2015 IBC, and Kev Nichols and Chris Canas have each performed on the IBC stages more than once. This is a great opportunity to head out on these late-winter Friday nights and warm your soul with some hot blues–you don't want to miss it!
Mid-Winter Heat: Stan Budzynski and Martila Sanders at the KVBA Second Sunday Series
Series To Conclude Sunday, March 8, With Kathleen and the Bridge Street Band and the Marci Linn Band
by Lynn Headapohl
Ahh, February!! Month of love and winter sunshine. February 2015 gave us new challenges with arctic winds and crazy snowfall, but that didn't stop the blues fans from coming out on a relatively bright Sunday afternoon for the Second Sunday Blues series. Fans and KVBA members filled Shakespeare's lower level to witness a great afternoon of jazz-tinged rocking blues.
Stan Budzynski and 3rd Degree, a four-piece unit hailing from the Lansing area opened the festivities. Performing two original tunes at the onset, "Jackson County Blues" and "Crystal Ball", the group demonstrated its bluesy rock roots with Stan making his guitar sing while laying down Texas-style Stevie Ray licks. The band's perfectly meshed vocals shifted to Motown. The group performed "Signed Sealed and Delivered" with keyboardist Gregg Hodge on Yamaha piano and HammondXK3C banging out a crazy keyboard solo on both instruments. Bassist Bretz then sang "All the Time in the World", while Stan beautifully crafted his signature sound, feeding the hunger for fine slide guitar work. His sensitive rendering of the Boz Scaggs love song "It All Went Down the Drain" gave way to the raucous vocals of Greg Hodge serving up a Texas/Delta version of "Looking Back at Her" in his gravelly Joe Cocker style, accompanied by his wild keyboard antics. Ron Bretz then performed "Livin' in the Country Blues", an original about a city boy experiencing his first move to the country. To close the set, Stan performed Little Feat's "Let It Roll" and took us down "that long cool stretch of highway" that brought back the days of riding around in that automobile without a care in the world.
The second set was even hotter. Transitioning with ease as drummer, Dan Mead moved easily from rock to swing to jazz, all in the blues vein, supporting the many facets of the band's eclectic performance. Beginning with "Sweet Goddess of Love and Beer", the band then moved from "Somebody Tell the Truth" to a stunning version of "Mardi Gras", where Stan pitted his articulate slide work on his Parker Fly guitar against the dancing bass line laid down by Ron Bretz on his 5-stringed bass, creating a fresh rendition akin to rock in the bayou. After thrilling us with "Unchain My Heart", the group pushed the beat to a metal blues collection, performing the music of the Johnny Winter blues standard "Life Is Hard," that gave way to the inspired Jeff Beck song, "Because We Ended as Lovers," written by Stevie Wonder. Here Stan's stirring guitar played to all the passion in our hearts. The band rounded out the show with Muddy Waters' "Diamonds At Her Feet" before firing up the dance floor with, "Shake A Tail Feather", ending with a lively romp through Taj Mahal's "Cheating On You". This surely left the crowd in a party mode!!
And the day's festivities were only the beginning!!
What an amazing day of blues! Thanks to all the blues fans that helped to make this show a success. If you missed it, fear not. There is one more in the second Sunday Series on Sunday March 8th at 4:00 in Shakespeare's lower level. We would love to see you there!
Kathleen and Bridge Street Band, Marci Linn to Close Out Second Sunday Series on March 8
If you've had the good fortune to attend the previous three episodes of the Kalamazoo Valley Blues Association's Second Sunday Series of fundraising concerts for the 2015 Kalamazoo Blues Festival, you know what a good time is to be had at Shakepeare's Lower Level in Kalamazoo. You know about the great music, good food and drink, companionship of other blues fans, and just plain fun, and you're already looking forward to this Sunday's final show, when Lansing's Kathleen and the Bridge Street Band and Kalamazoo's Marci Linn Band will fill a double bill with an outstanding helping of enjoyment. And if you haven't been to one of these great shows, now's your chance! Be sure to be there when the doors open at 3:00 pm, and stay for the full four hours of music. Kathleen and the Bridge Street Band will play from 4:00 to 6:00, and Marci Linn from 6:00 to 8:00. The door charge is only $6.00, and it all goes to help fund the upcoming 22nd Annual Kalamazoo Blues Festival! It doesn't get any better than this!
Hailing from Lansing, Bridge Street Band members Kathleen Walters (vocals), Doug Fritch (guitar), Angelo Santelli (guitar), Tim Brouhard (bass), Eric Payne (drums), and Jon Gerwitz (sax) put on a great show consisting of all things blues, soul and R&B…….from Elmore James and Etta James to Bonnie Raitt, Ray Charles and Stevie Wonder. They'll open the afternoon in fine style at 4:00.
The Marci Linn Band will pick it up at 6:00, with vocalist Marci Linn, guitar master Jim Beebe, bassist Greg Orr, guitarist Geoff Stockton and drummer Mike Curtis filling the room with their outstanding brand of blue-eyed soul. A long-time presence on the Kalamazoo blues scene, the Marci Linn Band is a perennial favorite that will close out the 2014-15 KVBA Second Sunday Series in fine fashion, leaving audience members with a wealth of good memories.
Come on down to Shakespeare's this Sunday at 3:00 for an afternoon and evening not to be forgotten! See you there!
Memphis and the IBC–A Spectator's Perspective
by Katrina Allemang
From a spectator perspective…….
Ah….Memphis. Back again. This time was slightly different though.
We arrived on Tuesday, January 20th. First stop…Rendezvous….second stop…Beale Street. We strolled down Beale Street taking in the familiar sights, sounds, and smells. Not sure what to expect from the competition or where the guys will be playing. It was still Memphis, just the way I remembered, with the exception of the new Hard Rock Café. The new Hard Rock Café is absolutely gorgeous. We imagined the sound would be equally as impressive.
What was different this time? For me it was the first time supporting a solo/duo act. It also meant different venues to sit and enjoy the competition from. Hunt –N– Gator played Wednesday and Thursday evenings at Club 152, 3rd floor. In order to get to there, you had to walk through the main floor where the band competition was going on, up the nifty "party" elevator to the 3rd floor. The feeling was much different than a typical "bar". The guys performed on a small stage while seated and the crowd watched from their chairs that were set up in neat rows. Seemed more like watching a recital and less like a bar show. Not to worry though, drinks were still enjoyed, as there was a bar on the 3rdfloor, but it was off to the side and did not impede the enjoyment of the acts. We were able to take in other solo/duo competitors, as they performed at other smaller venues. All in all, the solo/duo venues seemed more intimate.
Unfortunately, this was the last stop for our favorite guys for the competition.
Another new for me was sharing an apartment. We've decided this is the way to go when staying in Memphis. We shared a 2 bedroom, 1 bathroom apartment with Dave Hunt and Debbie Brokus. The price was better than a hotel and it was private. We had a beautiful view of the bridge and Mississippi River from our bedroom. The view from the living room was that of a cute little park with a nice fountain in the middle. It was a gathering place for school kids who would sing a capella. Horse drawn carriages adorned with colored lights would pass through regularly. At night it was almost eerie because all you could see was a floating ball of light.
What else was new? I introduced Hunt and Debbie to the Memphis Zoo. Being that it was cold for Memphis, the zoo was nearly empty. It felt as if we were touring our own private zoo. It is not a huge zoo but still decently sized. We were able to see most everything in about 3 hours. I would certainly recommend a zoo trip for anyone who goes to Memphis. They have panda bears!
We tried some new food joints and were highly impressed. We stopped at the Four Way for fantastic soul food. Not fancy but oh so delicious. This restaurant was featured on the Food Network, and its claim to fame is that it was a regular hangout for Dr. Martin Luther King. I would not mind making it a regular hangout for myself. Another must-go-to-again place.
As fabulous as the Rendezvous was, we found someplace we liked better…..Central BBQ. We heard about it from the Jim Shaneberger Band, and we were so glad we listened. When you walk in, you are greeted with a huge smile. The menu is listed on the wall next to you. You walk up to a small counter and the cashier takes your order and you pay for your meal, take a number and sit. You don't have to wait long before your mouth-watering meal arrives. The conversation after that is nothing more than a bunch of "mmmm" noises. Central BBQ is located behind the famed Lorraine Hotel. We were able to get our barbeque fix and see the Civil Rights Museum at the same time.
On Friday evening, Dave Allemang and I decided to take a break from the competition and take a drive down to the Crossroads. That was an unusual experience. The drive was a short 1 hour and 20 minutes through the delta. We arrived in Clarksdale, Mississippi around 8PM and there was no one around. This had us scratching our heads. Friday night and desolate. We found the Ground Zero Blues Club which is owned by Morgan Freeman. Very cool vibe and food was decent. The only thing missing was a band. You could tell this would be the place to be when a band is on stage. There was writing all over the walls, tables, and mismatched chairs. It was great!!
The last new thing for us was the finals. This was the first time we got to experience the newer format for the finals. We were able to watch the entire finals, both solo/duo and bands. The newer format consists of alternating between the solo/duo and band acts. The energy was high the entire time.
The highlight for Hunt –N– Gator came Saturday evening. We had finished watching the finals and were strolling down Beale Street for the last time when the guys were approached by a lady who had nothing but praise to give them. She was a Memphis local and had caught their act earlier in the week at Club 152. She remembered them and recognized them on the street a few days later. Their performance made a lasting impression….a good impression. The guys were delighted and humbled.
The semi-finals are still elusive but a goal to continue to strive for. I'm looking forward to visiting Memphis again.
West Michigan Blues Community Loses Two Of Its Own
Dave Thomas of the KVBA; Terry "Hoot" Gibson of Bosco-Gee
It's been a sad week for music lovers and fans of the blues, who have recently received the news of the passing of Dave Thomas, one of the founding members of the Kalamazoo Valley Blues Association, and Terry "Hoot" Gibson, long-time bassist for well-known blues band Bosco-Gee.
Dave, a local business owner, was one of a dedicated group of musicians and community members who came together in 1993 to create the KVBA for the express purpose of putting on a festival. That first festival took place in the summer of 1994 and was such a huge success that it continues today, with the 22nd Annual Kalamazoo Blues Festival scheduled for July 2015. Interviewed for an article reviewing the history of the festival shortly before the 20th Annual Kalamazoo Blues Festival in 2013, Dave said, "It's amazing that we did it. Kalamazoo had (and still has) so much great music and such great talent, and we wanted to bring the community together to celebrate it. Everyone worked together, out of the love for the blues."
Dave, who passed away on February 7, 2015, had coped with several years of a serious health condition with bravery and humor. He's remembered by all of us who knew him as not only a lover of music and founding father of Kalamazoo's blues community, but a warm, kind man who always had a smile and a good word for everyone he met.
Terry Gibson, known affectionately as "Hoot", died unexpectedly on February 9, saddening family and friends, including the members of his former band, Bosco-Gee. Hoot, who had played bass for 6 years with the well-known group, and who was there when Bosco-Gee competed at the International Blues Challenge in Memphis in 2012, leaves behind warm memories and fond thoughts.
It's Going To Be A Night To Remember: Tab Benoit, Samantha Fish, and Mike Zito at the State Theater, Friday, March 6
Kalamazoo's Out Of Favor Boys To Open at 7:30 pm
As anyone who's been around the Kalamazoo music scene in the last dozen years or so knows, Tab Benoit's is a name to conjure with. Born in the deepest bayous of southern Louisiana, steeped in the local Cajun culture, raised on the blues from his youth, and pulling it all together with a guitar since his teens, Tab Benoit began bringing his unique, high-intensity sound to the State Theater as part of the Budweiser/WRKR Blues Series in the early days. He quickly became a local favorite, drawing a loyal fan base who eagerly awaited his next arrival, looking forward to the next chance to spend an evening with Tab as he poured out the intense, Cajun-flavored blues that's become his trademark sound.
Among those early fans was Danny Ouellette, a local guitar player who was playing with Crossroads Blues Band when he first met Tab. Crossroads was hosting the popular Thursday night blues jam at Wonderful's Funky Basement, the legendary Kalamazoo club that closed its doors in 2007. Danny remembers a night at Wonderful's, "probably the second or third time I'd met Tab, when he had shared a bill at the State with EC Scott. We all sat downstairs until very late….3-3:30 am—while they told stories about each other at various festivals and events through the years. It was a really great opportunity for the young players we were at the time to spend the time with these amazing musicians."
Danny, who with Tony Sproul (also an alumnus of Crossroads), Joel Krauss, and Tim Brouhard went on to create the Out of Favor Boys, has a storehouse of such memories, recounting the way that he and the other band members interacted with Tab over the years and developed a solid friendship. After Wonderful's left the scene, to be replaced eventually by Marty Spaulding's 411 Club (which opened Labor Day weekend, 2008, and closed Halloween weekend 2014), Tab and members of his band would head over to the 411 after the show at the State for a late-night wrap-up of jamming with local musicians, including the guys from Crossroads and the OFB. Danny says, "I remember another night, maybe a year or two ago, when we stood outside the 411 with Tab, again until very late, talking about his hero Evel Knievel, his time doing stand-up, his time as a place kicker for the LSU football team….just total nonsense….just stories of our lives."
As the relationship developed, it became a done deal for the Out of Favor Boys to play before Tab's performances at the State, something they'll be doing again this year, when Tab shares the bill on March 6 with Samantha Fish and Mike Zito. One of Danny's more special memories is of one of the most recent times the OFB opened the night at the State. "Tab had finished his sound check before ours, and he handed me his guitar and asked me to play while he went out and walked around in the house. THAT was pretty thrilling."
It's also become tradition for Tab to jam with the OFB after the show, and rumor has it that we can hope for that to happen this year at the Old Dog Tavern, where the OFB will be performing after their opening set at the State. The Old Dog is a short hop from the State (one of the beauties of the Kalamazoo music scene is the proximity of so many great venues for live music), and music-lovers who aren't ready to let the good times go will be heading on over to the Old Dog to let them roll instead!
It's that quality of personal commitment to his music and the people he connects with, as well as the music itself, that makes Tab Benoit one of the most popular acts to perform at the State Theater. Tab plays the music that he inherited from his roots and developed as his own, and there really is nothing like it. He carries on the commitment to his homeland in his environmental activism, having made the preservation of the endangered delta wetlands his personal crusade, something he speaks about to his audiences as he performs. It's a multilayered experience to come to a Tab Benoit show, and something truly not to be missed.
AND: as if getting to hear the Out of Favor Boys and Tab Benoit on the same night weren't enough, the State Theater is offering further incentive to come down the night of March 8 by featuring Samantha Fish, the youthful guitar sensation whose 2011 album Runaway earned her the Blues Music Award (BMA) for "Best New Artist Debut" in 2012, and Mike Zito, the multiple BMA winner and co-founder (with Devon Allman and Cyril Neville) of the blues and rock supergroup Royal Southern Brotherhood. It's going to be an incredible evening of some of the absolute best blues music you're going to hear in a long, long time, so do not wait to reserve your tickets now!
The show starts at 7:30 pm (the tickets say 8:00, but the OFB open up at 7:30), with doors opening at 7:00. Ticket prices range from $25 to $30, and are available through Ticketmaster and in person at the State Theater box office. The State Theater is under new management and amazing things are happening to this beautiful venue, including renovations and upgrades to the stage and backstage area, seating accommodations, and sound and lighting system. That's just one more reason for you to put this unique night of blues on your entertainment calendar now.
KVBA Photographer Dennis Tuttle Has Photo Published In Living Blues Magazine
The Big Boss Gator Experience
By Lynn Headapohl
Once again, our blues fans brought an excited air to Shakespeare's Lower Level in Kalamazoo for the second show in the Second Sunday Series, the KVBA's fundraiser for the 2015 Blues Festival. Thank you every one of you for inspiring the bands to reciprocate that great blues feeling in the music they presented!
The opening band for the day was "The Gator Blues Band", a tight three-piece outfit known for their open jam sessions around western Michigan. This band was fronted by vocalist and guitarist Jim Klein and supported by Tom Elliot expertly on bass and vocals. Brian Taber guided their rhythm with a crazy offbeat kick flip jazz style on drums. Unfortunately, this writer arrived toward the end of their show, but I can tell you that when I walked in, it was hot. The band was playing Jimi Hendricks, "Third Stone Form the Sun". Then they moved to the Kenny Wayne Shepherd tune "Shame, Shame, Shame", where guitarist Klein used his Suhr guitar to bring the song to life with a wonderful slide reverb twist.
Next, they brought up vocalist and harmonica player Joe Ferguson from Big Boss Blues to join them in a great R &B review consisting of the perfect blending of vocal harmonies on "What's Goin' On", "Old Love", and "The Way You Do the Things You Do''. They closed with a full-out jam of "Drinkin' Wine" that included a blistering harmonica solo from Ferguson.
Big Boss Blues then took over the stage with an explosion of sound worthy of its name with the first note. Big Boss Man Charlie Schantz commanded the most out of his beautiful Les Paul, and it did not fail him. He was flanked by Bill LaValley on his '76 Precision bass, Eric Busch on drums, and vocalist Joe Ferguson on harp. Together, they brought us their powerful Memphis-bound IBC set, opening with "Treat Me Like a King". Each player stretched out to show his extraordinary chops. LaValley moved deftly through the rhythmic changes as "young gun on drums" Eric Busch coasted through his jazzy, rock and blues edged chops. Then lead vocalist Joe Ferguson showcased his fine tenor R&B sound on "No Money", transitioning to "Queen of the Midnight Bayou", a song that had that wrenching "N'awlins" sound. On this tune, Eric's tom work really brought out that deep bayou backbeat. The band moved through a funky little tune with plenty of vibrato and reverb before the Boss took us back in time with Fats Domino's "Ain't That A Shame". Ferguson augmented our expectations of the song by making his harp sound like a saxophone. He then went on to sing Howlin' Wolf's "Who's Been Talking", playing his harp and teaming with Schantz who supplied him with fine fills that brought that smoky blues sound to life. Guitarist Schantz went on to deliver a nostalgic version of "Route 66" that truly captured the sound of the 1940's composition first recorded by Nat King Cole.
Ferguson's vocals shone on Robert Cray's "Backdoor Slam". Schantz's Crybaby provided Wah pedal deluxe as the unit worked together, cookin' the blues to a hot steamy boil with a perfect throb. They closed the set with "Take Me To Memphis", a southern Blues with an "Ico Ico" beat wrapped into a funky bluesy romp.
One set and the crowd couldn't help but see that guitarist Schantz was a master of the slide, wah, picking…you name it. He will make you a believer. Each player in the band makes the listener pay attention to his individual talents in their own right. They seemed to say, "Let me share my joy with you!"
Schantz picked up his hollow body Gibson to begin the second set with Joe Ferguson singing a whole new funky registration of "Some Kind Of Wonderful". Schantz then got his "Mojo Working" as slide guitar and harmonica danced to the simplicity of LaValley working the rhythms with drummer Eric Busch, who provided this band with a rich texture as they moved as a unit. The group played a Tyrone Davis tune before performing an original called "Wealthy Street". Next, they served up Willie Dixon's "Seventh Son" and "No More Maggie", a rollicking tune in which all the players had a little fun.
To close the show, the band was joined by Bobby Wilson who brought his Gibson 335 hollow body to treat the crowd. The two guitarists worked out at length, trading slide riffs back and forth with the harp as the bass and drums rocked out a full version of "Statesboro Blues", and then closed with "Roadhouse Blues". All delivered a truly spectacular performance to bring another Sunday afternoon of smokin' hot blues to an end.
And what an afternoon of blues it was!!
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Replace copper weather stripping for door?
Our house was built in 1964 and has copper weather stripping around all exterior doors. We plan to replace a door soon. Is superior weather stripping available now to justify removing this old copper stuff?
I have replaced that kind of copper(have seen the brass as well) weather stripping with new stuff of the same type---to satisfy the home owners desire to remain period compliant.
The latest design that would be the best replacement would entail the removal of the doorstop section of the jamb and cutting a 1/2" deep dado in the stop(or replacement stop) to allow the rubber weather stripping to be installed in that slot.
That also would mean the door stop would have to be relocated and the jamb refinished/repainted.
The new rubber collapsable weather stripping is much more energy efficient as well as maintenance free(other than an occasional cleaning if needed). The major problem with the copper type is getting clothing snagged and tearing the metal. And it can be noisy in high winds.
The other nail on types of weather stripping are less functional than the copper, IMHO.
While it would be good to improve the efficiency, I don't think I'm up to the task of replacing it. In the 19 years we've lived here, it's never required any maintenance (that I'm aware of) nor have we snagged anything on it. I think I'll just leave well enough alone.
Thanks for the information!
It seems to be in good shape. I'm planning to replace the door and just assumed that 1964 weather stripping should be replaced. I thought that there were probably superior products available now, but I don't want to get into a complex replacement project if what I have now is adequate.


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I have another question and since everyone was so helpful with the lavender I thought I would try again. I want to try Wisteria also and was wondering if anyone had any suggestions or helpful hints. Thanks!!
Are they hardy to zone 4? I watched Kathy Renwalds show yesterday about vines, wisteria included. The expert said you need 8" posts to support the vine--nothing smaller will hold up to the rampant trunk. He also recommended a variety
of Japanese Wisteria "Lawrence" as being the most bud hardy.
He said it may take 10 years for a small vine to bloom.
I confess to trying one once on a huge concrete retaining wall. I didnt care for the look of it at all, and it was hell trying to get rid of it. even after only 5 years.
But thats just me. I dont like thuggy plants or vines. It looked like it would swallow my house given half a chance.
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Check out Wilkerson Mill's American wisteria (link below). You can read about Kentucky wisteria on the Brushwood site, though they're sold out:
Here is a link that might be useful: American Wisteria (w. frutescens)
I have one that is 6 years old, has never bloomed and is running rampant. I'm told I should root prune it and give it epsom salts(how I don't know). This I'll try but after next summer it'll be the axe.
I have another that is 2 years old which bloomed this summer. Go figure.
I don't have any Wisteria so I searched in my trusty "bible" of gardening so may be able to answer several problems at once.
-add lime to the soil if very acid
-prune roots before planting
-fertilize with high phosphorus, high potassium, low nitrogen fertilizer to promote blooming
-full sun, well drained moist soil
-needs strong supports,vines twine clockwise(interesting fact but not important). Good luck everyone
Hi, I got a wisteria "stick" from a trade that just sat and didn't do a thing. A local nursery had a couple nice plants and I bought one and planted it next to the "stick" and beside a large ash tree and put a wrought iron railing in front of the tree. I happened to notice the store wisteria was growing and starting to twine around the railing and when I moved it a little, there was a lot of growth on the "stick", too. So now I have 2 wisteria growing side by side. I doubt if they will pull down the big tree no matter how big and heavy they get. If they really do well, I will have to put up somekind of arbor to let them "travel" around a little and not just up. I'm just off Lake Michigan in Manitowoc, WI, considered zone 4-5 depending on what the winter wants to throw at us. The last couple years have been so mild, even the chickweed stayed green and growing. I hope I live long enough to see some blooms on the wisteria. Rachel
We planted 2 Wisteria (I believe they are the Chinese Wisteria) about 10 years ago. My husband built a portico over the patio and we planted one on each wooden support. We mainly wanted the Wisteria for afternoon shade. They grew like wonderful weeds and quickly covered the whole structure, so we are blissfully cool out there in the summer now. We have to trim them back several time a year to keep them from eating the house and neighboring trees, but their shade makes it worth it. Unfortunately they have never bloomed. We're not sure if they're the wrong kind (males?) or if it is too shady now where they grow. But they earn their keep. Just wish they'd bloom.
sdjig, not to argue but there are 3 wisteria growing here in central MN (northern z4) at the local park that have bloomed several times with only minimum dieback in a rather exposed area, and several that bloom at the MN Landscape Arboretum in the Twin Cities. If you can get them from a northern source, they should take zone 4. Just to be on the safe side, I would suggest planting them someplace sheltered.
greatlakes3, you said some can bloom their first year? Is this from cuttings or seed? I ask because I have the opportunity to collect and grow seed of American wisteria from a couple of sources here, but was told I would have to wait years for blooms. Thanks.
FOr what it's worth, here's my experience: My mom planted a wisteria near the base of my house, in a somewhat shady area (which I never would have had the guts to try). It took a few years before my dad called it the "Jackl and the Beanstalk" plant. That was about 15 years ago.
It is about 50 feet tall now, and would get taller but the house isn't much higher. Its growth is very vigorous, and EVERY YEAR we get blooms -- some years are so fabulous that we plan parties around when it will peak.
Now that it is me and my DH taking cae of it (no parents around anymore), we cut it back twice per year; once in late winter (to encourage blooms) and once in mid to late summer (to control -- HA HA -- the size). I strongly reccomend that you plan on it becoming VERY large, and plan supports accordingly (we have it growing up alongside -- and masking -- a steel fire escape).
THese plants can be wonderful. THey do bloom only for a short time, however, so hopefully you can place it somewhere where you can use/enjoy the shade from the vine.
Good luck!
Wisteria 'Aunt Dee' is hardy to zone 4. This is the most popular variety around here. I had the pleasure of seeing one here in WI z4 that was 50' tall, after having about 15' taken off. It blooms every summer, and has more than one main stem. (leader) They do take some patience as they can take up to 14 years to bloom, but may bloom as soon as 5 years from seed. If you're meticulous you can keep them much shorter, but they are vigorous.
'Lawrence' I have never seen in WI commerce. But I can site Dirr for those who want more info. "Flowers pale blue with white keels, original plant 20' by 10', discovered in Branford, Ontario 1970; selected because of exceptional hardiness and floriferousness."
Wisteria frutescens (American) and Wisteria macrostachys (Kentucky) are both hardy to Zone 5, which doesn't make them better than W. sinensis (chinese) W. venusta (silky) or W. floribunda (japanese) as they are all zone 5 as well.
I have wisteria that has blooms prolifically every year. It took about 7 years to bloom but the wait was well worth it. I love this plant, unfortunately my neighbour didn't and came over to our side of the fence one day when we were away and chopped it all down. He even left all of the branches just lying all around our backyard for us to clean up. I was absolutely heartbroken but I hadn't counted on the aggressiveness of my gorgeous wisteria. Needless to say we told him that we were not pleased with his behaviour and things have cooled off with our friendship considerably. It grew back with a vengence and if my neighbour will keep his paws off my plant, I should have a wonderful display of flowers again next year.
I'm new here and I received a 2-3 ft wisteria plant from a friend. called Texas Purple..Japanese Wisteria. I want to know if this can be grown in a container and if so what kind of trellis would I get?
Here is a link that might be useful: Keli's Country road
I planted a seed 10 years ago, and had a foot-high stick for 9 years that died back every winter. Last year I transplanted it to an area against the house, facing south, and it took off, about 2 m high. No flowers yet, but I hope for this summer.
This sounds encouraging. I planted one on the back side of our house, facing Georgian Bay, but protected from the wind by many pines. It is growing..want it to grow up and over our deck..for some privacy from a nearby walkway..hope if flowers..planted it three years ago..have not cut it back..like watching the branches come up and curl..but they are quite thin...will cut it back a bit this year..
Martha Stewart did an article in her garden issue ( Mar., last year?) about Wisteria. In fact I bought the magazine for that article, though there were other good flower things in it! The article stated wisteria would bloom if the branches were strongly horizontal. Trim off the vertical climbers. Plant is satisfied with sun exposure, enough to bloom. It also said the buds are different for flowers and leaves, flowers were fuller. Don't prune off your flowering branches! I haven't seen this branch information anywhere else. It also said she trims wisteria vigorously every year, to keep the blooming abundent. Well, she doesn't tolerate slacker flowers! Flowers in pictures were lovely. Martha is willing to put work into getting what flowers like, to get blooming plants. She finds and uses experts. I am willing to learn from her!!
I moved mine on purpose then, to get it next to a horizontal support. However it was then in an out-of-the-way location to water, new location, drought weather last summer. No attention finally killed it. I had been trimming it short, vigorously before that, which strengthened the main stem. I wanted more of a wisteria tree look. It sent runners all over, new side-branching and lots of new stems, which I kept trimmed off too. It was about an 1 1/2" stem. Purchased from Meijers store for $1, piece about as big as your thumb. No other special care, very vigourous growth in the couple years I had it, no flowers. Cold didn't seem to bother it, no winter kill branches, though the winters then were not severe, like this last year.
Other wisteria around town is quite elderly, very large trunks at old houses.
I THINK I HAVE KILLED A WISTERIA BABY!!!! SOMEONE HELP ME PLEASE!!! see a family member has this huge wisteria growing in her back yard and last september she found a stray from that plant growing about 200 feet away. anyway she dug it up and gave it to me. at the time i brought the ( for lack of better terminology) twig home it had about 6 leaves on it. i brought it home in a cool whip container packed in mud ( from the original growing spot) i left it in the cool whip container for about 3 days before it occurred to me i had to put the poor thing someplace, so i planted it into a terra cotta pot (about the same diameter as the cool whip tub however much deeper about 6" deep.) i planted it into this pot with new soil as well as leaving as much of the original soil with it as possible (i just figured it would be a good idea)anyway i kept a good eye on it for the first few weeks but after it drop its last leaf i couldn't stand to look at it anymore and set it outside on the deck (sometime around the end of october /beginning of november) and that is when the real neglect began. i didn't water it or anything because i figured with winter comes dormancy . right??? well around the end of febuary weather around here was really looking nice so i decided to water the plant and pray that this baby wisteria would pull through. now it is april and the wisteria is in its permanent home (has been for about 3 weeks now)a really sunny spot where it has lots of room to grow (only ? will it) how fast will these things take off and if it doesn't grow much shouldn't i atleast see leaves popping out or something ? i guess my real question is how long do i wait before i know for sure there isn't anything else i can do ? are there ways to check for signs of life? i really want this little thing to live so if anyone could help me i would really appreciate it.
I have had one for six years that has never bloomed. It is a Japanese wisteria.
I have been told that you shouldn't purchase a wisteria unless it has blooms on it. Some wisteria never bloom. And you won't find out until ten years later.
I will try some of the ideas here.
I have had a wisteria for 15 years at least and it has never bloomed. I cut it all the way back to the bottom last fall. It has a lot of runners coming out of the main trunk, should I let these grow or trim off all but a few? Every year it is a beautiful green thick thing but not flowers.
Building a covered (hopefully w/ wistera) rock patio w/ trelis. Looking for American Wistera (Lawrence or other) to plant from seed. Is it just not common to plant from seed but rather to start from cuttings or otherwise. Does anyone have any Lawrence seed (from a plant that blooms yearly).
Also, has anyone had an problems w/ surface root intrusion on wistera. The place where I would be planting the wistera would be in the middle of the yard and don't want to muck up the grass. Of what I've seen of this plant...I love it.
I have a Wisteria, but took the vines as they matured and twisted them around each other. This formed a trunk, I then fashioned a round topiary which I wired to the trunk and the vines have grown around the ball. It is now easy to contain and prune and absolutely beautiful when it blooms
I have seen a flowering wisteria about 1/2 a mile from our Manhattan communityy garden and it is growing up a steel cable hung from a roof. I would like to do the same, can i get a cutting? or should i ask them for a shoot or something? How can I do the same, any advice?
To the lady who said her Wisteria probably wouldn't harm the tree - just give it time! LOL.
I grew up in an old house that had a wonderful wisteria vine. One end of it wound around a heavy pergola outside my bedroom window (the scent still takes me back to my childhood) and the other end wound around a tall pine. It eventually killed the pine.
I have a wisteria that I planted at the base of a pear tree about 8 years ago. The pear tree gets fewer and fewer blossoms each year and I expect that eventually the tree will die. When that happens, we will built a pergola for it.
By the way, I knew this pear tree would be "toast" when I planted the wisteria - but its a very old tree and the pears - which you cannot eat (Keifers) - were prolific and a nuisance when they fell in great numbers in my garden. The only time they ever got used was when my son was younger and lobbed them against the shed wall.
Another thing, my wisteria bloomed the first year. I do not prune it except to cut off the lower suckers for appearance. I'm sorry I cannot tell you the name of it. But I do wish I could post a picture right now (but I can't) - the w. is 30 feet high and prolific with blooms at the moment.
Anyone know if the suckers can be rooted? I've got a neighbor who has the most fabulous (meticulously maintained) Wisteria growing up one of the posts near their front door and spread the vine out to either side of their long front porch; it's gorgeous and since I know theirs is routinely trimmed of suckers and it blooms I thought I'd ask them for theirs, but only if they'll grow. . . . anyone?
I have two wisteria trees. They are free standing and I love them although it took a long time to get them to bloom, but It was my fault. I was over pruning. For many years I reserched the wisteria because I lve their looks and because the blooms are like no other. They are breathtaking. When you prune --prune hard in the fall counting back from the tip prune back 2-3 buds. If you havent had any luck with blooming-try high phosphorus every other year or digging a circle around the trunk with a shovel about a foot all the way around to cut edges of the roots this puts all the nutrients back into the tree and forces it to bloom. Also roll up a thick magazine and tap the trunk a couple of good times. I was told to do this by a nursery expert and while I was doing it my husband came home and saw me and thought I was going crazy!!!! But my blooms have been beautiful ever since! Good Luck
Is my Wisteria probably dead?
I planted a Texas purple Wisteria last Summer. It still shows no sign of growth, and I am afraid it didn't survive our hard winter. We even had an ice storm at the end of April and the iced stayed on the plants for several days.
Do you think there is any hope here, or should I start looking for a replacement.
I was 'gifted' with two tiny (3") wisteria sprouts by a neighbor and they've done little to nothing in the way of growth in two seasons. They're about 10" tall now and have taken forever to get any leaves this year but are just now finally greening up. The neighbors have been done blooming for a few weeks now so up until a few days ago I was sure both of mine were dead. I did put them in pots, though, at the recommendation of the gift giver who advised me the @$#@% things will take over the whole yard if you just willy-nilly put 'em in the ground. I'm beginning to fear this may not have been as great a gift as I thought in the beginning. . .
My neighbor had a Wisteria planted on the side of his house for 15+ years and it never bloomed. Their friends teased him by hanging silk Wisteria flowers from the vine every spring. LOL Poor guy! While visiting a very old bed & breakfast in SE Missouri, I spoke to the owner who had a gigantic Wisteria growning all over everything on the property. I told her about my poor neighbor and his flowerless Wisteria. She asked me to pass on some advice to him. She said to be very careful when pruning as he may be pruning the next years growth of flowers. Also, as Gillean mentioned in an earlier post... she said to shock the roots by taking a long spade shovel and slicing straight down 3 feet from the vine and continue doing this
in a circle all the way around the trunk of the plant. She explained that it wouldn't bloom that year, but should the following spring. I hadn't realized at the time that my neighbor had already given up on his Wisteria and chopped it down. I can't say if it would've worked for him, but it's worth a try if your vine has been bloomless. I sure wish I had the room and support to grow one! Good luck!
I found this article on another forum by Bob May from the Royal Botanical Gardens in Burlington, ON. He is known as scisserhands there and is known for his skill at pruning.
The subject of wisteria is fraught with frustration for many Canadian gardeners. There are plenty of arbours and pergolas festooned with healthy-looking wisterias that simply refuse to bloom. So whats the secret to getting the magnificent show of fragrant blossoms that are on view each spring at Royal Botanical Gardens in Burlington, Ontario? Gardener Bob May says thereÂs not much to it: donÂt let your wisteria grow out of control and give it two good prunings a yearÂonce in midsummer and the other in mid-September, or when vigorous growth has ceased. Every three years or so, your wisteria will need a radical renewal pruning to keep it in shape. Wisteria responds best to stress. Be sparing with fertilizer and wary of high-nitrogen formulas, which will result in too much vigorous growth and foliage. And donÂt overwater. The phenomenally healthy wisterias that strut their stuff on RBGÂs pergola pretty much look after themselves and only get watered during extreme drought. WhatÂs the most floriferous wisteria on the RBG pergola? ItÂs ÂLawrence Japanese wisteria (Wisteria floribunda ÂLawrenceÂ, Zone 5). Wisteria primer - ItÂs easy when you know how 1 After flowering is finished, prune entire plant back, thinning it out well and leaving just one or two buds or nodes per branch. Keep vigorous, strong shoots that have set buds or nodes at their bases. Get rid of any branches that hang down and spoil the shape of the plant. To force the plant to branch more horizontally, make your cuts on a down-facing bud (even if you cut below this bud you will get new branches). 2 By midsummer, wisterias have put on a great deal of new growth that can tangle into a big, shapeless blob, encroach on nearby plants or weigh down supports. DonÂt be timid with the pruners: prune entire plant back hard to the desired size and shape and cut thin, overcrowded stems out completely. By summerÂs end, new shoots will appear and replace most of whatÂs been cut off. This is the time to select vigorous new shoots for training along wires, a trellis or even up a tree.3 In mid-September (or when vigorous growth has ceased), cut wisteria back again, though not as ruthlessly, to its desired shape for the following spring. This time, leave four or five nodes or buds per branch; these will form next yearÂs flowers and branches. If you see something resembling a witchÂs broom at the ends of the branches (several short, dense shoots clustered together), donÂt remove it allÂitÂs full of buds, so just shape carefully and thin out weaker stems and dead tips (about one-third in total). Cut back any split panicles (flower heads) and seed pods so they donÂt rob energy from flower production. 4 Wisterias usually bloom on the lower 30 centimetres or so of last yearÂs stems. By pruning these back several times a season, a flowering, multi-branched stemÂmuch like an apple spurÂcan be created. Every three years or so, when these stems have grown out too far from the main structural stem, give the plant a renewal pruning right after flowering, severely cutting back mature wood to within 7.5 centimetres of the main stem. This will open up the plant and allow in light to help stimulate new growth.
I've read your posts with interest! I would like to get a (free standing) wisteria tree as a wedding gift for a couple living in Indianapolis (Zone 5/6?). Can anyone suggest a resource for purchasing? I've found plenty of resources for wisteria vines, however, I can't locate anything for trees. I could have sworn I've seen free-standing wisteria trees mentioned in magazines -- and even in this forum. Am I mistaken? And can anyone tell me, if free standing wisteria trees do exist, would Indianapolis make a good home for such a tree? Many thanks!
I ordered two Japanese Wisteria vines this spring. So far they have sprouted leaves but have not grown upwards at all. My question is--- will it grow faster if it's supported?? They are only about a foot tall now so size wise they don't need it yet.
I have a Japanese Wisteria which is trained to go over a pergola over my deck. It bloomed when it was 3 years old (1999) and except for last year has bloomed steadily each spring. It is stunning! I make a point NOT to fertilize it so that it will keep blooming! One year my husband put fertilizer on it and the blooms were substantially less! Last spring we had a very late freeze and I thought that I had lost the entire plant. It eventually did grow back and I fertilized it to keep it from dying. By fall it had grown back about 1/4 of its size but I'll have to wait until spring to see how it does. So I do think that it is important Not to fertilize it. (this was recommended by a horticulturist). Hope this helps!
So, will wisteria grow here on Merritt Island, FL (Zone 9B)? I'm about 6 feet above sea level and anything with long roots gets plenty of water. Here on the island we get no temps. below 40F and none above 90F, but if I put it out in the yard, it will get FULL SUN for a major part of the year. I've heard of wisteria, but I don't know that I've ever seen it around here. Most people here, to my observation, are not too adventurous and only plant what Home Depot offers.
I have wisteria growing from both bases of a set of old steel monkey bars behind my house. Nothing will kill this plant--even burning with gasoline. The wisteria requires absolutely no care--not even watering with temps over 100 for weeks at a time. Buds form fully in less than two weeks and the entire plant is in bloom for about a month (it's about 15 feet high, 20 feet long and about 8 feet in depth). This plant is amazing. The base of each side is about 14" in diameter--last year my black lab puppy chewed one of the bases totally in half and in one season it has grown back to cover its side of the monkey bars. Drop me a message if anyone is interested in seeds from this beautiful monster.
I have a wisteria in a planter with a trellis that a friend of mine was digging up. (I put it in a pot because he was getting rid of it because of invasiveness.) It bloomed at his house (they had 2). I've had it a few years in a plastic planter. It does fine but around this time of year it gets yellowed and spotty and not so nice looking. I took one of the vines out and started it in another pot because I read you need two plants to get flowers. Do they hate being in pots? Does it need to be more wet or dry? Should I fertilize more or move it into a bigger pot? I've tried pinching it back to encourage flowering but I'm wondering if being in a pot is preventing it from flowering and generally doing too well.
Ellamay, I can tell you that I bought a *huge* wisteria in a tiny 2-gallon pot -- it was in full, gorgeous bloom when I bought it. So, I think leaving it in a pot should be fine. (I've also read that this is fine.)
As for the pot size, it seems that the plant produces more plants when it's feeling that its survival is a little bit "threatened" -- so don't give it a gigantic pot, I'd say.
Over and over, I keep hearing that it's a BAD idea to fertilize wisterias, as this will encourage more leaves, and discourage flower production.
I hope this helps.
Thanks stellagord, I've been reading too that fertilizer is a no-no. I probably planted it originally in some pretty rich soil so I will pass on the fertilizer from now on. From what I can tell over the last few weeks, they are enjoying being a bit moist too. But now I'm wondering if my original planter has good drainage, can't remember if I was good about putting rocks in the bottom. I'll investigate, maybe the new one is so happy because of it's well draining pot. Thanks again! Hopefully someday I'll get some flowers!
Can someone tell me why my wisterias stalled out this summer. We have 2 blue wisterias planted in well drained moist soil with a graveley component planted over a pergola. We bought these both in flower and our good fortune continues with splendid flowers. However in mid July for the last 2 years, they both turn yellow and lose leaves. This summer although they did not lose leaves, they completely stopped their growing and the ends of the vines turned brown and shrivelled. They have begun to push new growth now but I am very curious if anyone else has seen this in their wisterias.
I would like to share with you my experience. I grew up in a home which had a huge wisteria covering one side of the house. I adored it. For many years I tried to purchase one but I could not find any. I even went back to the old house but the new owners cut it down. So while I was riding on the highway on a motorcycle with my husband what do I see up on a cliff on the side of the highway - a flowering wisteria. I franticly signaled my husband to pull over, scaring him to death and despite his ranting and yelling I climbed up on the cliff, pulled it out of the ground, which was extremely difficult but I was determined. I brought the plant home about 1 hour away on the back of the motorcycle. Can you imagine the site. The plant was about 3 feet wide and tall. It suffered from windburn but it survived. Many years have past. It grew in a pot for some time on the balcony and when we bought a home I planted it. It grew quite big. The point is - even though it was flowering when I got it, it still took many years to flower for me. I guess it had to get even for the trauma it suffered being pulled out of its happy home and wind burned on top of that. It still only had a few flowers not even as many as it did when I got it. I was considering buying another one but I cant decide which one. Does anyone have a Japanese longiflora that you had good luck with?
The hardiest wisteria, so far, is Wisteria 'Blue Moon' introduced by Rice Creek Gardens in Blaine, MN. Rice Creek sells this plant for $50.00. There is another local nursery that sells the plant for $12.00. 'Blue Moon' is hardier than 'Aunt Dee'.
There are a few nurseries carrying this plant and I know that the plant is being propagated by a few wholesale nurseries so this plant should be readily available in a few years.
Good luck,
I and 2 of my friends built a rock garden 2 years ago. We put up 3 sections of privacy fence and I put two Chinese Wisteria on it. To my amazement and my neighbors disguist it bloomed!!!!!!!! He has had his planted for 9 years and it bloomed for the first time last year. He was not happy. I think the soil mixture is everything. To make the soil we put in one whellbarrow of horse manure to two wheelbarrows of black dirt. We tilled and tilled to mix and everything has grown like a weed. But I am having a hard time getting it to stay on the fence, it has runners out in the lawn and throughout the garden. I cut them off instead of trying to get them back on the fence as they seem to have a mind of their own. Does this hurt the plants or is it ok to keep up the wayward pruning?
I transplanted (twice) a wisteria from my Mother's home near St. Charles, MO. I am in Fort Wayne, Indiana. We have finally built a structure for the wisteria to grow on. it is about five feet tall now, single thick vine. I have never trimmed it pruned it; it has never bloomed. Can someone advise me as to a book or video so I can see how to prune? Or should I not worry about it at all? I would like it to bloom.
thanks for any help, I have no idea of the variety. My mother passed away four years ago and I cannot ask her.
Her's bloomed. I remember it smelled like heaven when it bloomed and hope to get mine to bloom.
O.K. I'm eating my words now. I had no idea there were so many different types of wisteria vines available. My last message in the previous thread was meant to say that you may not see blooms for 5 years not 50. It wouldn't let me put in another message but after reading all these comments I can see that I was completely wrong. Now I think I will consider a wisteria vine. They sure look nice and apparently they smell really nice also.
I found this site that answered a lot of my questions about wisteria. http://ohioline.osu.edu/hyg-fact/1000/1246.html
Wisteria is such a fascinating vine! I'm determined that mine will eventually bloom when it's supposed to! Mine has been planted in its current location since late summer 2001. I'm trying to train it as a free-standing 'tree'. So far, it has bloomed every late July/early August but never in spring - so I know it's capable of blooming but is not a bud-hardy variety. If I was doing it again, I'd buy 'Lawrence' - I just bought what the nursery had at the time - 'Blue'. The picture below is of it in August. It has filled out a lot since then and is much taller - well over 8' now I think. It needs a drastic shaping but I'm going to leave it until late next spring/early next summer in the hopes that the extra branches might offer some winter protection to the buds. Whether or not it blooms next spring, I will give it a good shaping prune next year. Currently, I cut back all the long, whipy growths by about half once they get to 3' or so. It has started sending out suckers from below the graft union the past two summers so I rip those out when I see them. I keep a small area at the base mulched so I can see the suckers more easily.
Is there a particular way to face wisteria? We just moved last April, and our wisteria is still in a pot as we're not quite certain where we want it....well, we *do* know where we want it but we're not certain it will do well there.....any suggestions? This thread has certainly been informative to this point!
Help. If I can figure out how to use this forum maybe I can figure out how to plant wisteria. My question is: do the roots and base of the wisteria need to be in the sun or just the top of the plant? We are building an extension to our fence and it will be creating a natural arbour (this is to cut out the unsightly Pepsi sign from the restaurant behind us which is brightly lit day and night and takes away from the beauty of our garden). My back yard is shady, but as it grows, it will get more sun... Is it hopeless? Thanks for any thoughts.
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My girlfriend has a house in No. Illinois and we planted a wisteria (I have no idea what variety) about 9 years ago in her backyard about 3 to 4 feet away from her cedar fence. She wanted it to grow up like a tree, but, I had seen wisteria in Santa Barbara, CA that was beautifully trained along the top of a fence, so, remembering that, I convinced her not to cut the long vines, but, rather, train them onto the top of the fence. Each year in the fall, I would trim back the suckers and vines that were NOT leaning toward the fence and the plant eventually got the idea (after a few years. We were patient, and, after the 6th year we finally had blooms (violet/white, clusters 6 to 12 inches in length), once in the spring and once in the late summer. Ever since then we have always had blooms (this is the 11th year since planting it. Now, When we planted, the root ball was about 8 or 10 inches in diameter and the plant was about 3 or 4 ft. tall. I dug the hole down to where the stem was covered over by about 3 inches of dirt. We have always used wood chip mulch, replacing every 2 or 3 years, and kept the lawn from invading using a plastic border (6 in.) about 3 ft. from the center. Any suckers that started out at ground level were cut from the source and/or mowed off when they appeared in the lawn. The 6 ft. fence is now supporting the plant and the vines span an area of the fence that exceeds 20 ft. across. The area beneath the plant is now devoid of any grass and we are allowed to mow around the plant at the drip line with ease. If you have other questions, I am not a plant expert, but, I have the experience on this plant in Illinois. Good luck!
My wisty took off the first year grew about 7 feet, this year nothing, has not bloomed yet and any new growth has been real pale then get the brown crinkle edge thing just won't grow this year,has been our wettest monsoon on record so temps haven't been to high ,plenty of water and some 18-13-15 or somewhere in that range, basic tree fertilizer, any help will be examined and put to the test ....Thanks
i came by this site by googling wisteria bloom time in southern ontario. i live in hamilton, which is on lake ontario and is sheltered by the niagara escarpment. i took lots of seed pods from a w this fall--it was growing not too far from my house, over a fence. i have no idea what specific wisteria species it is. the seeds took, and now i have about 15 baby w's (some are for friends/family). i have a few places i want to try them. i am sure one will take off in my front yard as it faces south and is hot and sunny, but i also wanted to try some in my shadier back yard, along a fence and up a jungle-gym type of a structure (i currently have a grape vine growing along both but it isnt doing it for me). which leads me to a few questions:
#1) when exactly do they bloom here?
#2) i have more sun in the backyard until the trees put out leaves, which is around mid-may. will the w get enough sun to bloom in this time or does it require sun all season long for prolific blooms?
#3) all of the seeds came from one vine. most of the baby w's are green, but 2 out of the 15 are pale and yellow. i have read in the thread that some w's are male and some are female. does this colour difference indicate different sex?
My parents neighbor has a Goliath Wisteria in tree form, and My father in law just moved out of a house that had wisteria vine on a huge patio for shade. I just built my patio and have spent about 2 months researching Wisteria for my arbor over my walkway. I HAVE THIS VERY IMPORTANT PEICE of advice: There are 3 major categories of wisteria -- American , Japanese , Chinese. If you want something that smells good STAY AWAY FROM THE AMERICAN kinds. My wife and I were looking for some good deals and realized that at the stores in Missouri and Kansas the American kinds were significantly cheaper than the japanese or chinese varieties. We had made up our minds, we were going to get the american variety. According to the experts it blooms earlier and its cheaper.
Then one day We were driving around looking at landscaping, we came across a subdivision that had put an arbor at the entrance with about 20 wisteria plants on it. They were all blooming, so i picked off a bloom. with it in our car about 10 minutes later the interior of our car smelled like Cat Pee. So i researched it and apparently the majority of wisteria owners of american variety either have no scent on the blooms or a very musky scent. Almost all the japanese or chinese varietys have a very sweet smelling blooms. I have bought 1 of each and planted them together to get the best of all worlds. dont know if it will work but I will keep you informed.
I purchased a "Kentucky" Wisteria 2 years ago. It is planted in full sun, very "clay" like soil. The 1st year, we allowed it to grow without pruning (hate to cut away something living). This year, there is a lot of growth (although supported, much of it is twining around each other) but...the leaves have a light green almost yellowish cast and appears to have small holes is several of the leaves. I did put some dust on it although I could not find any bugs and since it has been a dry summer, I try to water every week or so. There has been no improvement, it looks like it is dying. I have not fertilized, would this help? If so, what formula? Any assistance would be appreciated
It sounds to me like your plant is showing signs of overwatering. I would let it dry out for a while. From my experience with my Wisteria and everything I have read about them, is that they respond very well to stress. Water your Wisteria less frequently if at all, and see how it responds after a month of this.
My wisteria was grown from a seed collected from my Grandfathers plant back in the early 1960's. It bloomed spactacularly every year I can remember, and got all of those seed pods on it. My plant only took a few years to grow large enough to vine all over the front of my parents house and start blooming as well. It had some winter die off and sort of became a small shrub after many years of neglect??? but never died. Unfortunately that house was destroyed, and in the aftermath I was able to locate a piece of root and one green leaf. I dug it out and now it is in a bucket and has revived itself and is showing a lot of new growth. It will be planted in a new place, and I expect in a few years be blooming again. Not bad for a very old wisteria grown from a seed when I was just a little kid!
Grandpa would be proud! One of his favorite plants is still surviving.
I've had a grape wisteria plant in the ground that has done beautifully on the railing of my deck for over 10 years. This year, it flowered nicely. Since then it has dropped every single one of its leaves and looks as though it might have died. I have cut it back so it doesn't have to support all the dead limbs.
What I'm wondering is, with the horrendously wet summer the northeast has experienced (I'm in northern Connecticut), did the wet summer with next to no 80 degree days do the plant in? What would cause the vine to completely go dead by mid-July? It has always done well where I have it with direct late-day sun.
No other plants have taken any kind of hit (it's planted near bleeding heart, iris and forsythia, where it's been since I planted it, so no new introduction has been made). In fact, the rest of the garden is doing very well, in spite of the wet summer.
Should I give it until next year to see if it recovers, or is all lost?
I have had 3 kinds of wisteria living in florida zone 9b for 3 years now. Wisteria Reticulata which is an evergreen wisteria that gets dark purple fragrant flowers. I also have had wisteria sinensis and wisteria floribunda successfully growing in florida. Has anyone else been successfull growing this as far south as Vero Beach?
I just acquired three whips about 5 feet long. They have "roots" growing in two to three clusters in the bottom 12-18" of each whip. I don't know how to plant them. I can't really plant each root cluster under the earth without planting the part of the whip between each cluster. Each whip also has about 6-8" of whip left on the short end...do I plant that under the earth too? Should I do any trimming to the remaining 3 1/2-4 feet of whip? Any idea how quickly this will grow into something I can train? Thank you for your help!


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