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As a Spaniard, I will say that this is all a political problem turned into an economic one. And one we have happily created, too. "The markets" did not react to Rakoy's cowardly half - assed reforms because they know that the problem does not lay on the private sector. Spain is the only European country along with Germany whose exports have increased in the last ten years, while the productivity of our workers grew as well and is now on German level, even if our working hours per person is even higher than the average, so much for the whole "lazy siesta pigs" narrative.
Our problem is, and always has been, the public sector, and underlying it, our model of state and nation. Our goverment expenses gobbles up a whooping 60.6% of our GNDP. It masks its ginormous deficit under the guise o "public enterprises" and "public banks" (cajas). More than 450.000 finger - appointed political posts copes and monopolizes its labor market. The Spanish state is a predatory, corrupt to the bone oligarchy, not unlike Russia's, and we all Spaniards know it, even if a sizable minority of our own polulation is content to be bought by state subsidies and political benefits.
The problem with the EU's foundation was that it looked far too much at account books, and too little towards their parliament: ours is no democratic system. We have no independent justice system. We have not a single control over public expenses. We have nothing reminiscent of a "check and balance system", so our political caste can run amok, and they know it. Even the ellections, which are the very basic fundamental political control instrument, is heavily capped due to horrible ellectoral laws which imposes closed electoral lists and makes some votes count way more than others depending on your political party and territory where do you vote from. You can have the most devout labor force of the world, great entrepeneurs, and a creative spirit, all of this is going to be wasted if . Democracy and prosperity are linked, but few at Brussels wanted to admit it. Stop trowing money to the problem. This will not be solved by a bailout, we Spaniards don't want to see our corrupt politicians profitting from the hard -earned taxes of our north - European friends and allys. They are insatiable beasts, and now that they have finished feasting us, they want you as your next course of their meals. You should not, I repeat, should not allow this to happen.
The only solution to this crisis is political. A lot of Southern European countries have the same problems: clientelism and lack of checks and balances. If we lack of them, then Brussels should step in, and provide it. Yes, I am talking about imposing ellectoral, market, administration and law reform from outside, perhaps trought a previous country - wide referendum. Intrussive? Yes. For our politicians, any kind of limit to their power is a "restriction" and "Germany being bossy". Shrug these idiots off. We all know that this is absolutely necessary. We want a political, not a financial bailout. We want transparency and rule of the law. We want accountability. We want a truthly democratic system, that allow us to prosper. We want true convergence with Europe. Are we bold enough to actually do it?
"We want a political, not a financial bailout"
Then revolt. Otherwise you won't get the changes you describe as necessary (a view with which I agree completely).
They probably will if things keep going the way they are.
We are working on it ;) our political caste is already feeling the heat. Last 15-M protests got our politicians running like the rats they are, screaming for help (search youtube for "auxili parlament"), and needing helicopter evacuation.
However, we are a civilized people, and the only way out of this that does not end in blood pass trought the EU and a constitutional reform. I don't want to turn back into our civil war times. But I hope that once the chips are down Europe does not accuses us of being "irresponsible" like they did with the Greek. Protesting and revolting against our current political system is actually the only responsable course of action for us.
Your leaders, however, are not civilized. They are prepared to plunge you into deep poverty and unemployment in order to save the wealth-destroying Euro and to prop up the bankers bonuses.
You see, to todays politicians, financial markets and bankers are more important than ordinary people. If the markets demand X, the people demand Y, the politicians today will always do X.
You should force your politicians to return Spain to the peseta or introduce some kind of new peseta, you'd be instantly better off. Except the bankers and politicians, they would be worse off.
Believe me, the solution to our problems is not giving the control of the money - printing machine to our politicians. That would be the last straw that turns us into Argentina. As anyone that has studied economic history, you will see that Spain has been more than able to bankrupt itself even when having control of its own currency. The return to the peseta would mean inflation and poverty for us Spaniards, and a tighten grip of clientelism for our politicians, even if many inhabitants of the City would be jumping in extasy (speculation goes in both ways, you know).
The best post so far ...............!!!
Actually, the [Spanish] Government is trying to reform the penal legislation to enter as a crime close to terrorism the following "revolts":
- organize any kind of demonstration by the Internet
- not to leave the demonstration place as an act of authority resistance
- if you are a civil servant you are allowed to go to a demonstration under severe consecuences (letters threatening them with massive sackings and so on)
There is a common feeling that we're turning into a dictatorship day by day....
Great post. I just wish the Greek posters would have the same level of self-reflection/ criticism.
I wish more people in Europe were like you.
Your first paragraph contradicts your second paragraph. Productivity as a whole in Spain is much lower than in Germany.
Brilliant! Explains the situation perfectly. Totally agree.
a very thoughtful comment, one that could equally apply to another member of the latin bloc France....however, amongst the indignados, one finds liitle reflection of your arguments, most of the anger is irected at Capitalism, the EU etc... I am skeptical that your thoughts are shared by many. A pity but it seems we have no option but to let this madness run its course with TE screaming *throw money" at the sidelines.
I think our situation in Spain is not easy to manage, but there are some way to solve our economics problems. We the people now it here, and we have the solutions. Read them here:
Tightening up the screws and putting pressure on the pressure cooker is something Europeans are very good at doing but it has had disastrous consequences to the world in the past. Keeping the Euro together could lead to war in the years to come if austerity brings out racism and hate the way it is starting to in Greece.
Germany and northern european countries are already talking of invading Greece and Spain (not militarily but economically) - an economic blitz where they will take land and property as collateral for loans. How will the headline, "Santorini is now sovereign German soil!" go over in Athens? How long before the Greek and French see it as an invasion and resist?
Already we're seeing Nazi and Communist fringe sides gaining seats in popular governments. Something unheard of since WWII.
Europe needs to fix this fast and by fix, I don't mean wrapping another rubber band around the pressure cooker so you can increase the heat further.
The south should likely break apart from the north and it should be done in as orderly a manner as possible to prevent suffering and radical forces from entrenching themselves.
Stop farting around and get to work (pardon my french).
If you want to have a lavish lifestyle you can´t afford, you have to give something up. You cant have both, so you decide.
If you think it is such a good idea to built useless airports, because you want to support your local construction companies (and get elected again), please do so. But if you dont happen to sit on a pile of money and are forced to borrow, the lender most likely would like to see some collateral (if he thinks you are not trustworthy or able to ever pay back).
What is so wrong about that? Indeed it is sad if you had to give up e.g. state run companies for that, but hey, what else can you offer? If you actually could offer something more valuable, those countries wouldnt be in such distress right now, would they?
"Germany and northern european countries are already talking of invading Greece and Spain (not militarily but economically) - an economic blitz where they will take land and property as collateral for loans. How will the headline, "Santorini is now sovereign German soil!" go over in Athens?"
I guess you do not get the obvious. No Greek soil, no Greeks and no Greek problem(s). That's what more integration means. And you will not see it coming because it is the blitz (last time it only took 6 weeks). Bang and soon you will speak all German. Start thinking about new names for Souvláki et. al.:)
I am a Spaniard who has been living 15 years away from my original country. I am now an US citizen living in Massachusetts. Sometimes I have nightmares in which I am travelling back to Spain. Honestly I would not go back to Spain even if I had a good job, because Spain is a synonym of corruption: corruption is widespread in the country and reaches all people at all scales, from the king to the middle class people. Spain has no longer been a dictatorial regime since the 70s, so there is no excuse to blame the Spanish politicians, as they have been voted by the citizens again and again. There are politicians in Spain who have been governing cities/regions for two decades and since their first day they did an awful job. Now you see the results. In my opinion, the Spanish crisis is very different from the EU crisis: it is a crisis produced by corruption and the moral decadence of the Spanish population. They still live in a "civil war" dream and they vote on purpose to bad politicians just to upset other people who have different political ideas. There are two main big parties in Spain: PP (right) and PSOE (left). Both are corrupt and do not care about people. Small parties like IU (extreme left-wing party) or PNV, ERC, CiU (radical nationalists) have only one interest: to divide the country. My advice for you: if you go on vacation to Spain and you have no problems (theft, fraud, etc), you will think "what a nice country!" Yes, the landscapes are nice and you probably will enjoy the food, beach and museums. However, living in Spain is the worst experience you could have. After I escaped from Spain, I lived for five years in the UK, France, Poland and now in the US. All countries have good and bad things but Spain is the worst place I have known due to the behaviour of their people and their lack of respect for democracy and culture. There are exceptions, obviously. Since the beginning of this economical crisis many people are escaping from Spain, mostly professionals (engineers, scientists, etc) because the salaries in that country are ridiculous and the working conditions are miserable. The trade unions are useless and they are even more corrupt than politicians. Medium and small enterprises are closing or leaving the country because bureaucracy and corruption is killing them. Just think about one thing: there are nearly 80 universities (70 of them are public) in Spain and NO ONE is in the world top 100. Why? The answer: if you would like to work at a Spanish university, your CV will not be valued. It will be more important if you have a relative, friend or "godfather" at the University. I am sorry to be so cruel, but I do not feel sorry about Spain: they dig their own grave and now they have discovered that they are dying.
I also am from Spain and also belong to one of those regions to which you call radical nationalists.
Before you go making you cool and saying the Spaniard everyone from your comfortable position and proud, I'm going to afford to remind you that in this country of thieves and other characters according to your opinion there are people, the majority has no choice but to this drama without knowing why you are suffering.
Death to the politicians and bankers that we are making pay their greed and deception.
I find it disgusting that a guy who in the beginning of my nationality will give lessons to outsiders about what to do, and especially if they come to reassure holiday.
Stay where you are and you still confused with a Mexican, because for the people of United States that is what you are, and not to show up here and we do not need traitors and favors as you just did.
ps: Dont bother answer.
Yo he nacido y vivo en España desde hace 61 años, he viajado a paises Europeos, Americanos, Africanos y Asiaticos, la mayoria de las veces he recorrido zonas de estos paises caminando, o sea que puedo decir que de muchos sitios he conocido la realidad más auténtica. Jamas me iria a vivir a otro sitio, España es el mejor pais del mundo para vivir, también he conocido individualmente personas de EEUU, reconozco que son las personas más ignorantes y estúpidas que he conocido, una pregunta que me he hecho siempre es como es posible que un país con esta gente sea la primera potencia mundial ?
He is not considered a mexican in the US. Most Americans (myself included) lump latin america and mexico together, but Spain usually goes under the White box on the race/ethnicity section of forms. Its one thing for an american or US resident to comment on American race relations, but people unfamiliar to our national society need to control their tongue when talking about social domestic issues in the US. It's not because the rest of the world is full of bad people, it's because you are unfamiliar with the American social dynamic just like I am unfamiliar about the Spanish social dynamic.
How very Spanish this exchange is! I agree with guest-ioanjaj that corruption in Spain is rampant. Much of the blame lies with the judicial system, which is slow and corrupt itself and allows crimes to go unpunished for a long time.
I also agree that even if I individually am dismayed at our political class, we Spaniards are collectively responsible for voting for them once and again. It is absurd for a democratic country to despair of the politicians they choose to represent them.
But of course Spain is not the worst place in the world to live in. Even Italy or Greece are more corrupt. Inequality is far worse in the US. Spaniards are friendlier and warmer than the British or the French. The weather and the food are very good. Social mobility is far better than the UK or the US.
Spain is not the best country to live either. Entrepeneurship is low (Spaniards are risk-averse). The public sector is too big. Everybody (like the French) believes that the Government should solve all the problems. Engineering and science are not respected.
Spain is an average country. It has good and bad things. But from reading these posts, one thing is clear. They are far too passionate for their own good.
@especialsteel: Actually I prefer to be a traitor because I will always betray those ones who use corruption or radical policies as a way of living (i.e. Spanish people in general), regardless their social status.
Politicians and bankers are only the tip of the iceberg in Spain. The problem is the people, especially those ones who do not want to see the truth and prefer to keep voting useless politicians. Spain is no longer a dictatorial regime: people voted for these politicians many times so now you all get what you voted for. The only difference between the middle class people and these politicians is that the latter were able to stay in power. All (of you) are the same, unfortunately.
What is the problem if American people think I am a Mexican guy? I do not mind at all if people think I am Mexican. I am not so racist as you are. I do not have any bad feelings about Mexican people, despite Mexico is a country with good and bad things.
Enjoy the politicians you voted and enjoy the crisis in Spain, which is not "my" country anymore. You did your best to get it and you really deserve it, for many, many, many years.
@especialsteel: Actually I prefer to be a traitor because I will always betray those ones who use corruption or radical policies as a way of living (i.e. Spanish people in general), regardless their social status.
Politicians and bankers are only the tip of the iceberg in Spain. The problem is the people, especially those ones who do not want to see the truth and prefer to keep voting useless politicians. Spain is no longer a dictatorial regime: people voted for these politicians many times so now you all get what you voted for. The only difference between the middle class people and these politicians is that the latter were able to stay in power. All (of you) are the same, unfortunately.
What is the problem if American people think I am a Mexican guy? I do not mind at all if people think I am Mexican. I am not so racist as you are. I do not have any bad feelings about Mexican people, despite Mexico is a country with good and bad things.
Enjoy the politicians you voted and enjoy the crisis in Spain, which is not "my" country anymore. You did your best to get it and you really deserve it, for many, many, many years.
@Ivan02: The fact that you say that people from US are ignorant and stupid demonstrates that you do know nothing about the US. No problem, we do not need any person like you here.
@sugarfree: no, Spain is not the worst place to live in. Actually it is better than North Korea, Sudan or Ethiopie. But considering the political and economical history and the evolution of the last 30 years of democracy in Spain, it is obvious that Spanish people have decided to commit suicide. They have decided to be the clowns of Europe, a country which you cannot trust from any point of view. In the next years you will see the evolution of Spain from a first to a second world country. Nothing can stop that now. You will see how Spaniards will prefer to ruin their country instead of working together to make things better. Stay tuned.
Of course, Spain is no bad choice as a place to live but everything is relative.
¿What would you prefer, living in Spain with 1000 euro/month
salary or living in Russian Siberia with 10 million euros yearly income?
I have also lived in the US. And companies providing utility services where I live now (Madrid) are much, much better that the ones I had in the US (Telefonica, Iberdrola vs Verizon, Washington Gas, Dominion).
Corruption? I used to work on I street, Washington, DC. Go to K street and let's talk about corruption. The difference? It's illegal in Spain. Institutionalized in the US.
Greetings from a proud Spaniard-German to a self hating Spaniard.
I would rather live in Russian Siberia with 10 million euros yearly income.
Yes. Spain will be going downwards. The recent prosperity was nothing but a housing bubble. Spain has no industry (the UK, where I live now, has very little too, unless you consider the financial sector an industry). Spain has no innovation (just look at the statistics of patents). Education is mediocre (not much worse than the US in the PISA reports, mind you, but at least the US have excellent world-class universities). Spaniards need to wake up from this kind of stupor they have been living for too long. I hope the present crisis will be the wake-up call the country needs. But changing the underlying culture of tolerance to corruption and rent-seeking, deeply ingrained in the Spanish psyche, will take much longer.
Can you confirm that you have renounced to your Spanish citizenship, so that your worst nightmare cannot come true? You know, you can do it. You can attach your letter above to the letter you sent to the consulate. We would not like to see the US going into a financial tailspin and people like you coming back to suffer so much... We will do all the suffering alone. Keep in Boston eating Chinese canned clam-chowder!
guest-ioanjaj, you speak the truth and are not a traitor. Spain needs to look at itself to understand where it has gone wrong.
Not much of a fan of Spain then? lol
Social Mobility? What is the unemployment rate again? Delusional.
The UK has not industry? Where is ARM based? Where is Rolls Royce based? ... do I need to go on? The UK is the 8th largest manufacturer in the world... what planet are you on?
Una de las mayores confusiones que tiene la gente es la de creer que viajar fuera significa lo mismo que vivir fuera. No sé si es su caso o no pero, a tenor de lo que ha comentado, me temo que llegar a soltar ese tipo de generalizaciones tan simplonas sobre los americanos es lo mismo que no haber viajado a ningún sitio. Con respecto al pseudo patriotontismo español sobre que España es el mejor sitio donde para vivir - cuando llegue el momento, todo caerá por su propio peso. No es de extrañar que EE.UU sea la primera potencia económica, ¿puede ser que sea porque conocen el significado de la palabra productividad?
Una de las mayores confusiones que tiene la gente es la de creer que viajar fuera significa lo mismo que vivir fuera. No sé si es su caso o no pero, a tenor de lo que ha comentado, me temo que llegar a soltar ese tipo de generalizaciones tan simplonas sobre los americanos es lo mismo que no haber viajado a ningún sitio. Con respecto al pseudo patriotontismo español sobre que España es el mejor sitio donde para vivir - cuando llegue el momento, todo caerá por su propio peso. No es de extrañar que EE.UU sea la primera potencia económica, ¿puede ser que sea porque conocen el significado de la palabra productividad?
Social mobility is measured as the inverse correlation of the parents income and that of their children when they become adults. The higher the correlation, the lower social mobility. In a country with low social mobility, the children of the poor have a low chance to become rich. It so happens that the US and the UK have a very low social mobility index. This means that that people tend to be trapped in poverty, while the wealth perpetuates in families, giving rise to a divided society. High unemployment figures may lower social mobility in the long run, but for the moment Spain has a better index that the mentioned countries.
As a Spaniard I am a bit astonished. We are the problem. There is no solution for us...
COUNTRY COMPARISON :: DEBT - EXTERNAL (30 June 2011)
1 European Union $ 16,080,000,000,000
2 United States $ 14,710,000,000,000
3 United Kingdom $ 9,836,000,000,000
4 France $ 5,633,000,000,000
5 Germany $ 5,624,000,000,000
6 Japan $ 2,719,000,000,000
7 Italy $ 2,684,000,000,000
8 Netherlands $ 2,655,000,000,000
9 Spain $ 2,570,000,000,000
But we cannot print money as the UK...
Please, God Save Spain!
You need to update this - the United States is almost at 16 trillion and probably going even faster than the European Union. Yet they are literally dancing on the hills of Washington and celebrating the idiot Europeans for messing up so bad, as this takes away the focus from their own problems. If it wouldnt be for the Europeans, the same forces that haunt Europe right now would haunt the US.
You need to update this - the United States is almost at 16 trillion and probably going even faster than the European Union. Yet they are literally dancing on the hills of Washington and celebrating the idiot Europeans for messing up so bad, as this takes away the focus from their own problems. If it wouldnt be for the Europeans, the same forces that haunt Europe right now would haunt the US.
"Europe's leaders have asked the world to trust that they will do what it takes to save the euro." and instead they see a disunited bunch of nations pulling at all kinds of ropes from all directions. The EU must become a united EU, a UEU! I wouldn't trust the EU if I were on the outside!
Europe's socalled leaders know full well a significant proportion of 'Europeans' do not want to save the Euro. The question should be, is it worth saving? Methinks not.
Well that's a different question. But under the premise that those leaders want to save the Euro like Hollande and Merkel just yesterday said: "We are going to do everything to protect the Euro-zone", they have to find a common strategy. But the differences between Northerners and Southerners are too big.
Simply put: Northerners don't want to consume but like to produce as much as they can. Southerners on the other hand like to consume but aren't so keen on working all the time and being efficient ("Deutsche Pünktlichkeit"). That cultural gap is what's causing the trade-differences and making the union split.
Exactly, so the point is: what will be of the north if the south stop consuming? That might happen, and actually is happening because of the austerity measures, but with no euro, even the most consumist of the southerner would have to stop consuming the marvellous northern products. "PIIGS" are also more then 134 milions consumers, and there are plenty of others "pigs" around us that are at the moment out of the euro. A few days ago I read what was the import-export relationship between Italy and Germany in 2002 and now. It was already in favour of Germany, but now is in favour of Germany 4 times more! !!! 4 times !!!! The north, in my opinion, has as much to loose from a brake up then the south ...and maybe more. The super-northern-euro woulden't help the competitiveness of northern industry.
This article completely ignores reality.
What's wrong with you people? Just go watch the Olympics like everyone else.
As someone who has worked and lived in USA, Morocco, Mexico, Argentina, Spain, UK France and Germany.....I just find all sterotypes that people repeat time and time again here totally incorrect....so there are NO people in the UK that are lazy and scrounge off the state ....equally in Germany???? - total nonscence!
And building workers, plumbers form as much part of the black market in all EU countries as in Spain ......
Also, Spain is not devoid of industry and large multi national companies as everyone seems to imply .....Spain is actually the second (or third) largest producer of cars in the EU....has the largest most global retailer (inditex)...plus Mango...plus Santander
As a businessman I dont even agree that it is complicated to set up a company in Spain...nor that labour changes are necessary ....the law was already very flexible (much more than in Germany)
As you do mention MUCH MORE IMPORTANT is to create an economic environment where companies want to invest...and current economic policy in Spain (imposed from Germany) is totally the opposite, so the labour market reforms will not make any difference whatsoever in the economy in the short term - just that older people will get laid off in favour of younger cheaper employees
And what with all the spanish people who have been work until now in another countries, but still have money from the State like unnemployee?
I am so scared!!!. This british "newspaper" really opened my eyes.
The angloamerican financial elite has chosen to start a war against the euro. Who knows why... new world order?, fear for the pound and the dollar resistance? that is... bullshit (obviously)
I hope both british and american people that i deeply admire could stay away from this madness.
Love from a lazy, ignorant spaniard.
PD.: Hell looks a lot like a hot and sunny beach to me.
Viva Europa (and the UK).
I am from the Netherlands and would like to see the Euro disappear as soon as possible. The Euro is an unmitigated disaster.
The 'angloamerican financial elite' are the ones who want to save the Euro, by getting European countries to use tax money to guarantee banker profits, investments and bonuses.
The Euro is our misfortune. The sooner it is destroyed the better.
"As the months drag on, the crisis is deepening."
To get out of this mess, Spain MUST devalue (and leave the Euro). Only devaluing will increase exports, increase economic activity and increase employment.
Spain MUST default. Not a partial default or a "reconstruction". Only a full default will clear the slate and give the Spanish government sufficient money to spend, hopefully on "high multiplier" infrastructure spending, not on welfare or public service salaries.
Playing politics, being proud, avoiding pain or loss of prestige, just won't work. Maybe a year ago if Greece had been kicked out of the Eurozone Spain could have survived with the Euro. No longer. Their economy has become vastly worse, and neither Germany nor the IMF can continue to support them.
The Euro zone is finished. Spain, Italy, Ireland, even France, will follow each other out. Painful for the politicians, but maybe in the future EU politicians will place economic advice as their first priority always. A hard but necessary lesson.
That would be a catastrophe for the EU. for both Germany and Spain. And the rest.
On a personal level, as a half German half Spanish person it would break my heart
The Euro IS the catastrophe. Getting rid of it is the beginning of the cure.
"That would be a catastrophe for the EU. for both Germany and Spain."
I severely doubt that. Yes, it will hurt. A lot of money will be "wasted"
(did it ever exist?), but after a couple of years it will be all for the better. One shouldn't force countries together that are too different.
And going on like this will break your heart in much more pieces. Any bail-out will cost Spain dearly, and not just Spain.
Too different how?
Two words. Vorpommern. Rhineland. Now those two WERE different.
"Two words. Vorpommern. Rhineland. Now those two WERE different."
Well, they still are. But they have something important in common.
Language & same country/ nationality. And I care what happens in Vorpommern.:)
"Too different how?" Well, let's but it like this: 3/4 of my department is located in Valencia. When they start a task, ours has already been finished. And always in need of help. You get the picture.
What I see around the world is that what prevents people taking totally rational decisions on the best of advice, in this case economic advice, is fear of the unknown and expectation of pain.
How can I convince the Spanish people that the route they are taking, essentially inaction, has lot more painful consequences than leaving the Euro, (having a floating Peseta), and also better still, defaulting on government loans. No it won't be a disaster. If anyone suffers it will be the rich bankers and giant funds, who, you must believe me, can afford to take these losses. Your country can't. What many people don't realize is that these banks, funds, etc. are several time bigger than Spain and have a lot more cash. In three years time they will welcome you back with open arms! All will be forgotten!
Be resolute! Be brave!
On a parting note, in my visits to Spain I have noted, yes, Spain is massively corrupt, especially in the south. There is a simple cure for this. Introduce 'conflict of interest' laws, and enforce them. This will clean up corruption immediately, Why? If as you do now, you don't have a legal definition of corruption, you cannot prevent it. I am from a country which defined corruption as "conflict of interest". It was like magic. No public servant servant dares accept even a bottle of wine. (Politicians excluded themselves from the law, and many are still corrupt).
European rating data fixed week by week.
A syndicate cannot have its individual elements burdened with culpability; however, 'any' government which solicits any kind of financial assistance such as a bailout, should be obliged to a wage cut of at least 25%-Presidents or Prime Ministers, all civil servants-as well as any Royal institutions. Austerity should affect everyone, not only the 'everyday' person, and Governments should lead by example and also bear the austerity consequences.
Spains economic problems is a wide spread southern European problem, one of a maze of red tape to get anything accomplished. In Portugal getting the monopoly company EDP to connect electric to your house is a snail pace nightmare. Lack of any real open completion and protected domestic markets is what is really slowly killing Spains and Portugals economies?
I know that's why Spain's telcos, gas companies, etc. are so huge. Why Santander should be europe's biggest bank? It explains the Spain's problems.
It's communism!
It is starting to be ridiculous how the American papers and the people like you focus the situation; you guys really think this is all about socialism in Europe, that it cannot be sustained, so on, so on... Well I am afraid that the thing is the other way around: the wild capitalism that YOU have proudly exported all over the world has let markets to overcome democracy and achieve to broke Europe. Rate agencies, collective investment schemes, investment funds, they are making a killing thanks to no regulation upon them. Blaming socialism, and the way Europe has managed its wealth-fare systems is pure ignorance. Please, look at Scandinavian, northern European countries, they are way, way, way reacher than YOU are in all terms but in GDP, and they are the most socialist countries in the whole world. Meanwhile your division of wealth is even with china at the bottom of the world, I would say that the average Spanish citizen lives way better than you do. (excuse my English, I'm from Norway)
Much has been said about capitalism vs socialism, however I think the real problem is inherent weaknesses in democracy. The first weakness is you are electing the politician that usually is the best liar. For example if large tax increases were needed, would you really elect the politician that ran on a platform of increased taxes vs one that said he would cut taxes? The second major weakness is most politicians want to look good quickly after entering office. There are various schemes for this but it usually boils down to spending money and increasing the debt and/or nationalizing industries. Some politicians have even handed money out in the streets. Any political idiot can look good for a short period via a money giveaway to voters because the financial problems come later. Democracy is often better than the alternatives but it is far from perfect.
Please take a look at the per capita income of countries on a Purchasing Power Parity basis. Only Lichtenstein (not a significant country so can't be compared) and Norway are higher. I live in the San Francisco bay area which alone has a population greater than Norway. So you are wrong on several counts:
1) Almost all countries in Europe are poorer than the US on a per capita income basis except one or two exceptions, including Sweden and Finland.
2) Norway figures higher but it is not "way, way, way reacher [sic]" as you put it.
3) Comparing countries that are less than 5 million population (Norway) to a country of about 320 million which are still roughly equal in per capita income actually shows me how successful America has been at generating so much wealth.
4) The Scandinavian countries are not the most socialist countries in the world by any means and the political differences between the US and those countries is unfortunately not as large as made out to be. The US provides healthcare to the poor with the Medicaid program, unemployment money to the unemployed, and food stamps to the poor. Scandinavian countries are not socialist either by the way. They are social democracies. Socialism means that all the means of production are held by the state. Ever heard of these famous major government owned companies such as Nokia, Volvo, or SAS Group? That was a joke btw, Norwayboy.
5) Those countries in the north are not as multi-cultural as the US and their population is far more homogeneous which makes it easier to integrate people and convert them to productive members of society.
The only thing I agree with is that the US fares worse than Europe when it comes to income inequality but you can chalk this up to multi-culturalism in the US. White and Asian americans generally do well in the US as they do in Europe whereas African and Latino Americans do poorly. In my opinion, aiming for income inequality shouldn't be as important a goal as ensuring that the poorest people have a safety net. We all know the history of countries that went too far in ensuring income inequality.
Please quote your sources next time before you post such drivel. It may also help to visit the US before you post your baseless opinions and observations online that are not backed by any facts.
Good article. Having lived in Spain, pre- and post doom, I can certainly say it has been a real eye opener. The south definitely has a more laid-back attitude and the region where I live, Andalucia, is run in an appalling bad manner, irrespective of the party in power.
There is no efficiency, no skill, no quality and no care - that's Spain's problem. No quality coupled with a 'I could not give a Fxxx' attitude. Add to that appallingly ill-educated people running town halls and other local government posts and it all adds up to a disaster in waiting.
Corruption is endemic and affects every walk of life. The legal system is a nightmare with new laws being enacted and amended daily. They raise VAT, then delay it. They charge new levels of VAT on electricity BEFORE the vat rise comes in. It's all a madhouse of confusion and inefficiency that noone has the skill to correct, and so it staggers on.
Spain needs to grow out of the recession, but its people are so apathetic (I mean extreme apathy) and so poorly educated that they are stuck in a vicious circle of doom. Spain still believes that building more hotels, golf courses and marinas is the solution! They just don't get it and they really need another country to come and run their economy for them. Spain's culture and attitude has destroyed them.
You are absolutely right in your comment.
There are estimates that Spanish "black market" economy
will reach 30% of GDP, once the last VAT rise is implemented
on 1st September, 2012.
Another stunning data; Spanish Railways RENFE, operating
as the state monopoly, declare losses of 20 billion euros.
However, I disagree that Spanish culture is to blame.
The principal responsability for Spanish catastrophy
should be awarded to the disastrous education system,
for years classified as one of the worst in Europe.
If you educate young generations in the spirit of disrepect
of personal effort and competition, you get Spanish reality
today where overwhelming majority of young people wants
to be civil servants.
On the other hand, you can hardly blame these young people
for their apathy in the country with unemployment rate
between 18 and 30 years of 52,5%.
Are you implying that the spanish people do nothing about what is happening? I hightly doubt you ever lived in Spain. One of the main examples about spanish people wanting to change things is 15M. Have you seen anything like that in Greece, Ireland or Portugal? No. That's it then.
Sure, apart from the weather, I agree that Spain has to improve a lot of things.
BTW, how are things going for the UK? have you taken measures with the gangs on the streets? Any improvement in UK´s healthcare system? Is "Mohammed" still the most popular name given to new babies in UK? Are you still the most beer drinkers in Europe? Are the hooligans still #1 animals? Is England still one of the most hated and racist countries in the world?
Really, this is in part true. I should say, however, that there are two different Spains within the country. A lazy and old (in mind) Spain and a new one. Both live one beside the other, although the percentage of both Spains is different by regions. You can find a 14% of unemployment in Pais Vasco and more than 30% in Andalucia.
You have no idea about Spanish life; it is not appropriate to talk generally about something and expect that affected people don't understand. We know and live the problem even more than you do, and also we have to see how the English Government, for a long time, decided not to participate in the Euro (although they were the promoters, because i think that you don't know this data and you talk without knowing anything); you are in a deep crisis like the rest of Europe or even worst and is spending a lot of money in Olimpic Games, Queen's Jubileo and so on, smiling on TV because the solution of the problem is printing more money... PLEASE! go to economic class, live in Spain (in Madrid, Barcelona, etc.) and then, if you want, talk. The most of Spanish people are not politicians, so we cannot take decisions; instead, we can make strikes, shout in the street and cry.
I prefer being a proud spanish because of our character, our way of life and so on, than live in a country where the people is serious and disagreable. Bye.
Honestly, I cannot imagine why you still live in Andalucia bearing such a pressure of seeing incompetent people, not willing to serve you nor to learn how to. Probably you already imagined that I am a spaniard. I have lived in Chile, Brazil, Germany and the UK, apart from frequently travelling to the US. I have rarely found such an inefficiency level in front of severe difficultIes as I found in Germany, such a big amount of people living on subsidies as I found I'm the UK and such an amount of foreigners receiving world class sanitary attention as I saw in Spain. Please, go back to your cold country and leave us alone. We don't need your kind in this country. We have enough problems.
Kind regards.
Jorge, what you don't need people like me who work hard and pay their taxes in your country? We don't work on the black market; we do everything by the book, we paid a fortune in taxes moving here.
The problem with all Spaniards is that they are in DENIAL. They are classic denialists and blame the expatriates for just about everything when things go bad for them. I wrote what I experienced from living in Spain for a decade, I can't help it if you don't like the TRUTH.
Other countries have problems too, of course, of course, but I am talking about SPAIN, which is what the original article is about. Here in Andalucia the Red Cross are out helping middle-class families, and in Madrid too as well I read. The UK hasn't got this bad yet Jorge, and there are still jobs being advertised. Stop being a denialist.
@AngrySpanish - did you know Spain has made a bid to host the next Olympics! Who's funding that? The EU again?
@Victor, 15M is a JOKE. These people complain about a system that has made them unemployable and broke, but who revelled in it when the cheap loans and good times were in Spain with lots of expatriates buying houses etc. University Education is CHEAP in Spain. 15M should get off their backsides and get highly qualified and move abroad to get a career.
You'll have the Troika running you soon Jorge.
Life in the UK? Well, we have work and there are jobs in the papers David! We have a health service that is free for all and which does not discriminate like it does in Spain (tried getting healthcare as a EU resident in Spain recently? It's a nightmare of "fiscal requirements").
Your Mohammed comment shows you to be a racist. Britain is a multicultural place; Spain is highly racist, especially against Moroccans. We brits do love a beer, but then again so does Spain and your "Botellon" is known world-wide. Your drug problem is a real worry in Spain of course, Spain has the largest cocaine use in Europe didn't you know?
If UK is so hated, why are all the Spaniards flocking here to get jobs David? Oh yes, another denialist in action.
"I prefer being a proud spanish because of our character, our way of life and so on, than live in a country where the people is serious and disagreable. Bye."
Well, you can do whatever suits you (i.e., being proud) as long as you do not expect us (North Europe) to bail you out. I prefer being serious and disagreeable and not to beggar my neighbors. Bye.:)
15M has been saying many things that wanted to get done. Hence, my response to your question whether the Spanish population has done anything regarding the actual problems would be no - nothing has been done but many things have been said.
15M has been saying many things that wanted to get done. Hence, my response to your question whether the Spanish population has done anything regarding the actual problems would be no - nothing has been done but many things have been said.
The SPANISH lost generation is suffering a huge PAIN , a scandal laboral fraud: interns or trainees to WORK without laboral human rights
I worked for Siemens as an intern in Germany for 300 euros, no holidays, no benefits...
So quit whining and get back to work, cause it is not easier anywhere else
Many retirees and vulnerables are now at the mercy of the Grand Illuminati from New York if they do not withdraw their funds fast enough. According to the newest wise saying, it is "the big bullying the weak, the strong domineering the weak and the rich oppressing the poor."
You all want it to Spain to do badly. But they do not know is that we will emerge from this crisis Spanish. Germany is misbehaving with all its European partners. Germany is making a silent bank World War, all decisions taken by Germany are seeking their own benefit and not that of its European partners. If Germany does not help Spain, Germany will fall and splash the shit, because Spain is a great country and drag all the euro countries. Germany is the real problem for the European partners, because it is able to flex their economic politic. The Germans are rascals and should rectify.
"we will emerge from this crisis Spanish."
Oh sure. Spain will emerge at the other side of the wormhole into the dark age.
We should recognize our errors, and they are not a few. If I had money I will not invest in the debt of my own country, specially if our politicians spend the money in banks managed by the same people that left them in red numbers. Germans are right if they want to have some control of our expenses.
Spaniards are not perfect, of course, but take into account that we started to be in the real world just in 1975 (after Franco's death). I am very old and the change of this country has been impressive during the last twenty years. Perhaps, we have grown too rapid and some people behaved as new rich people.
In any case, we are in a bad situation, but we are not alone. Sikko6, please, read at least Wikipedia to learn something about the different countries (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_external_debt):
Netherlands - 226,503 US dollars/per capita
Spain - 18,260 US dollars/per capita
Look after your money guy!
Spain is a great country with impressive history and culture.
I have no doubt that sooner or later Spain will emerge from this crisis.
However, it will take a very long time if you are looking for responsabilities in the wrong places.
You have to admit that something went wrong in Spain and somebody
should assume responsability; politicians, bankers and in part the whole society.
Blaming Germany, ECB, Finland and whoever outside Spain
will not solve your problems, on the contrary, will make them worse.
For starters try to learn English. Do you really want to force us to decipher your "message to the world"?
"Germany is misbehaving with all its European partners." Stop this sh*tty blame game. Did not do the Greeks any good and will not help you either.
"If Germany does not help Spain, Germany will fall and splash the shit, because Spain is a great country and drag all the euro countries."
Pray tell, why is Germany obliged to help Spain again? Because you have x amounts of airports nobody needs, broke football clubs not paying taxes etc. etc. etc.? If Spain is such a great country, you definitely do not need our help. You can do that all by yourself.
Oh wait, forgot, you needed us to decide your last civil war. So much for greatness.:)
"You needed us to decide your last civil war"? Really?
Hopefully, your "Really" is not an attempt to disguise your lack of historical knowledge. But hey, citing yourself "... ,I am an economist.", we can not expect that from you.
Otherwise, as half-Spanish you should know a little bit about the Spanish Civil War (1936-1939) or is your German half preventing that? Must be an interesting internal monologue you are having (German half constantly apologizing to the Spanish half).:)
The bull, the horns, "Southerners just don't work hard enough"...
Many people are fed with all those stereotypes
Guest-ioaoosa, sorry to tell you but you are very stupid, talking rubbish without any f...king idea. If you think Spanish people do not work hard ... I can tell you that British people take more tea-break on regular basis than any other european population. If you believe in all those "stereotypes" you are racist and ignorant.
@Hope722, but does UK have endless fiestas, puentes and 3 hour lunchbreaks? Do they have lunch at 11am like in Spain?
Answer: no.
End of story.
Dear sir,
Which Europe do we want? One where the orderly nations pay for the disorderly? For how long? Of course one may assume that the "Club Med" will soon or later get their act together. One can also believe in Santa Claus. Or can we force them to be more orderly?
Mentalities don't change easily, only very slowly and under great pressure. Will Greece ever pay their debts? Most probably not.
So why "lend" them more and more billions?
Would't it not be better to have a nothern European Euro with the
messy nations getting their act together first (year 2xxx)?
Too much wishful thinking and too much democracy ends up with no tough decisions taken. But things get organized one way or another...anyhow.
Patchwork will not save the day,
Another know nothing posting here. Go back to school
You are the one who should go to school of capitalism first!
Sorry, not feeding the trolls. You'll stay hungry
My answer to you is "no answer, ignorant". Sorry
Thanks for your post. "Would't it not be better to have a nothern European Euro with the messy nations getting their act together first (year 2xxx)?"
Yes, no other way possible to resolve this mess. We need to split the EU/EZ into North/ Central and South European entities. Otherwise everything will go bust. But the South will do everything to prevent this from happening. Because they know that they will never be able to catch up with the North without dragging it down permanently.
You are half German and don't even know Germany's involvement in Spain's civil war. Sorry, friend, you are just ignorant.
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Now I am sure I am going to get a "Play better!" or even a tl;dr on this one, but I felt I should say something about this as not only I but most my friends on LOL have slowly just stopped playing. I am not going to go into this character is OP, or anything like that, but I really think the matchmaking in this game is broken.
First, I am only level 15, and I am not "That" good. I mean there are lots better, and that is cool. But it seems each time I play I keep getting matched up with higher level people, or groups of people of a much higher skill rating. I am just going by wins and what they do in game to determine this, and as that is usually the best way to tell.
Games seemed to always be full of people trying to find lower level people and take advantage. Now I understand this is a competitive game, and your going for the win, but when you are in a group of 15's and you get put against 30's.. that is just kinda bad.
So.. what do you do? Make another character, try again at lower level.. Well you can't, as a friend suggested it, but when he tried. The people in the group he went against (Also all under lvl 10) knew exactly what do to, their specific builds, and where they put sight wards, etc.. I guess he called them "Smurfs"
Basically, it seems that there is no-way to have just a good (reasonably close) game anymore, and it gets frustrating to all those involved to just play all day and not get a single game of people around their own skill level. There is no-way to report these "Smurfs", and that paired with the bad matchmaking just makes it almost unplayable.
So hate on me as you will, but know most people are just not playing because they can not have a good fun game which is too bad really, as it can be a really fun game to play with your friends.
Edit:Why in new player.. Well it is something new players are going to run into a lot, and as they level it is only going to get worst.. Not to mention, I am really only lvl 15 so that is still kinda of new. So there ya go..
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Very odd that you would come here to post this since your match history shows a 50% win / loss ratio in your last 10 games, so the matchmaking is pretty much spot on. Maybe you just have a broken memory, or only short term memory, are you from Colorado or Washington? Been celebrating?
Rav Abaddon
I came up before people realized they could be ******s with how matchmaking works, so I can't really advise you on a "How to avoid" level...
I actually think you should check out some open ARAM lobbies in Custom games as long as they aren't all lv.30. It's fun and hopefully you can find one that doesn't have people outrageously higher level than you.
As for the skill ratings, unless you mean the 30, I can assure you everyone has the same amount of skill (or lack thereof) as you do. Wins aside. If they have more wins than you have games played, then they have twice as many losses as you have games played.
for some reason i have the opposite result when playing, on co-op am stuck with lvl 7-9 players. its not a bad thing, but its annoying when i have around 13-16 kills and everyone else has around 2-5
It just happens sometimes. It takes a lot of games to match you appropriately, and even then, people are really inconsistent so there's a lot of mismatched games. And then sometimes the system just makes mistakes, especially late at night.
In my example, I recently had the biggest mismatch I can ever think of in a normal blind pick game. It was four of us, and we're all pretty mediocre players, ranging from unranked to about 1400 Elo or so. And the four of us had one random player added to our team, against a team with a duo queue and three random people. The duo queue was Froggen of CLG.Eu and a friend of his, and Froggen is easily one of the best players in the world. How is something like that possible? Well, he only had 20 normal wins on the account, since all his games on his US server account are normally in ranked, where he has about 800 games at 2500+ Elo, and looking at his match history he just plays with friends who are much lower than him, so his normal Elo was vastly deflated, and the matchmaker considered a premade of 4 + 1 random to be roughly comparable to a premade of 2 + 3 randoms since it couldn't accurately assess the incredible difference in his skill versus ours.
Basically you just need to blow off things like that. Weird things happen, but on the whole, the matchmaker is pretty good once someone has enough games played, especially as players themselves grow more experienced and consistent.
Matchmaking filters out smurfs. It is why your friend who made a smurf got paired with a bunch of smurfs.
And really, matchmaking cannot guarantee super close matches all the time. If a player don't know how to handle a slightly fed enemy, then the games will never super close. It always comes down to learning as much as you can from every game and not worrying about the other noise. It isn't important in the long run.
Magus Crow
5 games isnt enough of a sample size to be drawing any conclusions from as it takes several games to determine any sort of sembalence of your true ELO. Matchmaking does its best to match you with people of the same ELO range as you. In the beginning your ELO fluxuates quite a bit (much the same as ranked placement matches) and an early win streak can grossly overrate your ELO.
Give it 150 games or so and you should be roughly where you are supposed to be.
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Originally posted by TheM4gn1ficen7:Originally posted by Wredniak:Originally posted by TheM4gn1ficen7:Originally posted by Wredniak:Originally posted by TheM4gn1ficen7:
As it stands this skill does very little to shake up the meta for the better. Oh, great, you stop jam, but the retarded strike spam that endlessly dominates the meta is unaffected. Who cares if you do four damage to Gehenna when it still hits and kills your entire deck? Either payback should take no damage from the reflected skill or 'all' skills should keep their 'all' attribute when being reflected. It doesn't seem like much effort was put into payback. It'll end up a niche, a curiosity, like valor.
If I remember correctly payback was quite useful and worked almost the same as here it was not as game changing as let's say chaos or summon but still was useful especially combined with high health units and intercept (hopefully we will get it here as well). IMO in your example payback is not a problem but Gehenna is.
Right… but this isn't WMT. Payback ideally should be a check to strike spam, something that has more or less ruled the meta since the beginning (in another form it was enfeeble-strike, now there's no need to spam enfeeble when overload guarantees it hits all). Crimson box spam is extremely unhealthy for the meta, and payback doesn't do much to stop it. The payback unit dies and Gehenna shrugs and continues to do its thing. Just about every strike all card is the same.
Honestly either strike all needs to be reflected and hit all of the enemy units for possibly reduced damage to dissuade mindless spam of that skill, or when hitting the strike all unit the base strike damage should be doubled. As it stands now Payback doesn't help much.
If you expect one card with payback to stop Crimson that it would be even more broken. IMO payback as it is can stop strike if other skills on the card are decent. 3 cards with payback = 12 damage to Gehenna per turn and they all can be 4 turn waits with 30+ health as payback doesn't need card to be active to work. If payback stopped all damage/jams you could get crazy situations like one card with payback 4 dealing 16 dmg per turn without activating or if it's active jamming up to 4 other cards while ignoring evade. If that card had corrosive and/or armor it would became almost indestructible.
Fix for crimson shouldn't be a "new crimson".
With payback as devs propose you can either include several payback cards and wreck strike all while being vulnerable to other decks. IMO no deck should be good against all other deck types.
But then you're suggesting the solution is spamming cards with Payback. OVercentralization around broken setups is what's doing the most damage and this just perpetuates the cycle.
Honestly I think the truth of it is that this game is too unbalanced at this point to save. The devs either don't understand CCG balance or don't care.
I can see your point. On the other hand what you propose would break any strike that is not Gehenna level which imo would be worse. Also the problem as I see it is not a deck with single gehenna but those having 3 or more + at least 2 overload cards to support them. IMO you should not expect to throw one payback card to the mix and be done with it. IMO balance could be achieved in a way that strike all decks die to payback decks and those loose with let's say counter decks that on the other hand can't deal with strike decks.
EDIT: To make it clear I don't say there are no issues in the game just that it imo isn't payback skill but boxes like crimson.


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Opening Reception: Saturday, November 23 12-4pm
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The house has aluminum siding, but painted cedar trim. It's 26 years old, the trim has never deteriorated, so has never been replaced. Painted about 4 years ago: the paint is still in good shape, except where this bird is attacking it!
What does this mean? Does it mean we have bugs in or under that wood? Thanks.
Pecking is not always foraging behavior. It is also a territorial display. Lots of information is available:
We had one jack-hammering on the next door neighbor's chimney cap (metal) for a few weeks. Sounded like a metal shop.
I have a house that has Hardiboard (concrete composite) vertical siding, with vertical cedar batting every foot. I do not have insects in the cedar strips, but I did have a woodpecker that liked to fly under the eaves, hold onto the tops of the battens, and proceed to destroy them. I tried everything from yelling, to throwing a handful of gravel, to hanging a plastic owl nearby. Nothing worked. Finally I got up on a ladder with a stapler and that black mesh bird netting and stapled it on to the top portion of the battens and the underside of the roof, which blocked the area the woodpecker liked to hang out. That was three years ago, and the bird hasn't returned...except to drum on my steel chimney cap at 7am, but I can deal with that.
I got a good look at the bird. We were on each side of the window from each other. It looks like she is a female red bellied woodpecker. She had a strip of red on her head, but not enough to be a male. The damage is worse than I thought. The holes are half an inch to almost an inch wide. Most of it is limited to an area less than 2 feet square. Maybe we have some rot there, that we didn't notice under the paint.
Do such birds do territorial displays in the fall? And do females do it too? Thanks.
This happened to me, too, except that it was the galvanized steel flue pipe. I asked a bird professor (ornithologist) what it was all about, and he said it was a male trying to attract females. Who knew? But my episode was in the Spring. Anyway, I tried it myself, but no luck. Wife thought I was nuts.
Buy one of the kid water guns make a weak solution of ammonia and water, use just enough ammonia so the mix has a slight smell. Next time the bird attack house take a squirt at him, you probably won,t hit him but if you even get close he won,t come back. I had a bunch of swallows nesting under my deck they would actually attack anyone coming in area. I tore out the nest and they rebuilt. A friend suggested the ammonia thing, bought a kids water gun tried it after second time the birds left and have not been back.
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