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January 13th, 2005, 11:03 PM #1
Cover Art and Computer Graphics
There are certainly both pros and cons about being with a small press, but one of the distinct advantages is having input into the covers that go on your books. This is not something that many authors get to do with the larger New York houses.
As Gary found, he had the opportunity to solicit Robert Sammelin to illustrate the covers for his Gemquest books; and similarly, I was given the opportunity by Windstorm to provide my own illustrations for both The Road to Kotaishi and The Sands of Sabakushi.
While I am by no means an artist, I do enjoy messing around with computer graphics. By virtue of having a passing familiarity with a good 3-D modeling program (Bryce, available from DAZ Studios) and image editing programs like Photoshop, I was able to come up with some decent images to use for my books. Not only was it quite satisfying to have my own artwork on my own book, but I could eliminate the issue of trying to get someone else to interpret the vision that was in my head.
Here are my four covers so far, somewhat larger than in the Books thread:
Over on my website is a brief outline of how I used Bryce to create the Kotaishi cover.
I'd be interested to hear from anyone on the topic of book cover art, particulary the use of computer graphics to produce them; or just on computer graphic art in general.
Update from May, 2006: This very loooong, and graphics-intensive thread, started out talking about covers but rapidly became a forum for displaying the various artwork projects that I've been working on. If you start at the beginning and work your way through, you will be able to watch my transformation from total neophyte with using the people-generation program to something hopefully a bit better. Along the way I periodically demonstrate some of the techniques in use. If you'd prefer to skip the preliminaries (some of which are really embarrassingly bad at this point!) and want to skip to the latest stuff, head for some of the most recent pages of the thread.
Update from September, 2006: After straining the capacity of good ol' SFFWorld, it was recommended to me that I close this thread and start a new one, which I have done. The current thread is the one called Computer Art, and is where all of the new stuff and attendant commentary is located. However, do feel free to read through any of this one that you like, since it does still show an interesting progression as I worked with the tool.
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February 8th, 2005, 11:32 PM #2
The program I used for the covers for Kotaishi and Sabakushi (Bryce 5.0) does not have a built-in facility for modeling people;this was one of the main reasons why I used structures for the illustrations. I did have a program that could do people, but the results from the version of it I had (Poser 3) were not so great, nor was the program very easy to use. I also had a creative reason for not using people - as an author, I didn't want the pictures I put on the cover to pre-form readers' images of the characters, their clothes, etc; I wanted the reader's own imagination to build upon the descriptions from my words.
However, having people on covers does tend to improve sales (at least that's what I recall reading somewhere...) And now I have a program that does a much better job of handling people. I've been experimenting with my new program (DAZ Studio), and below is a picture I put together in about an hour and half this evening (with figures created in DAZ and then exported to Bryce, where I built the walls, etc.) It's pretty rough, particularly my quickie backdrop, but it serves as a good example of what can be done. So I'm thinking that I'll probably end up putting some people on the cover of my third book.
I'd be interested in your opinions on the topic of people on covers - pro, con?
(Sorry 'bout the Bat'leth... it was what I had to hand!)
Last edited by Radthorne; March 29th, 2005 at 09:12 PM.
February 9th, 2005, 02:55 AM #3
Whose that girl in the black. Is that our little street urchin?
February 9th, 2005, 10:09 AM #4
Naw, that's not Nusumi. She'd be a little shorter...
These were just some generic figures I came up with. They start in the program as plain-jane Anglo figures, with no clothes and no hair, standing with their arms out at their sides. Then you add facial features and skin textures (Asian in this case), clothes, props like swords, and then pose them. The woman is wearing a tunic top, but the pants that go with it didn't fit right. So I used some track suit pants and changed the color to black to match. The hood is actually a hajib prop with a veil, which I also changed to black, and thus made a Ninja hood out of it (or an Anasatsu hood, to use the name for a similar cult in my books).
February 9th, 2005, 10:10 AM #5
If you knocked that up in five minutes I would say you are in the wrong business!!!
I'm not sure about computer game style graphics for people though. I think your covers are fantastic for your published books. If you were going to use that style, I would say avoid full-face (or half face). So the cover in your example above, would be looking over the un-masked character's shoulder, straight at the ninja, as that would be fine.
Hey, the company I work for take that approach with real photographs (I.E. no full face images) and the reason is similar to the one you express above. In our case, we don't want clients associating or worse, not associating with the faces we use in adverts/brochures. For you, yea, you don't want to impose your idea of how your character's look too heavily... God bless the ninja hood!!!
February 9th, 2005, 10:34 AM #6Originally Posted by juzzza
That's a good idea, using a hooded character that way. When I was considering the earlier program, Poser 3, since the people didn't look so hot I was going to do something similar, by showing them from the back looking at something interesting in front of them.
The DAZ program actually does a pretty good job with faces. Here's an example of one of the "people" packages, that shows both normal humans and something a little different. The human characters can end up looking pretty realistic, I think.
February 9th, 2005, 02:57 PM #7
I think your covers are great, Kevin. But I would be very careful about using figures that are computer generated. In my opinion, they give the books a game-like appearance, almost like the cover of a pc game or a nintendo game. I think that might cast your writing in the wrong light to a reader who is browsing the shelves and doesn't know what you do.
February 9th, 2005, 04:24 PM #8
Ahem, don't say anything about Nintendo, Gary! But the characters do look stiff and barbie dollish.
A good thing to do would be to get Tblue to make you a photo. She has access to men with big swords and costumes and fabulous NZ scenic backdrops. A bit of forest or a crystal clear lake or a mountain in the background would be good.
February 9th, 2005, 04:58 PM #9
Do NOT go for photos, that's worse than anything... Look what happens when you make people dress in fantasy gear!!!
February 9th, 2005, 06:07 PM #10
Did I say "use porn stars"?
February 9th, 2005, 10:06 PM #11
Wait, wait! I can make a fire backdrop like that! And I have a loincloth texture around here somewhere...
Ok, the masses have spoken (well, a few of you have spoken anyway) and the cons seem to have it. However, before tossing in the towel on the idea, I think I want to experiment some more, as I have seen some pretty photo-realistic results using this software. Done properly, I think it can still compete on an even basis with "art" art and not look computer game like.
Here are four examples from the DAZ website, all of which are done with the same program (along with composition in things like Photoshop, etc.); but these are all computer generated figures (done by people with lots more talent than me):
Autumn Flirts with Winter
by: Martin Murphy
episode 14 scene 20: crush
by: James Lee
Skyscape Dance
by: Laurie S
The Time
by: Mec4D Cath
So if I keep working at this, and get half the talent this folks have at doing it, I might be able to come up with something usable.
Last edited by Radthorne; March 29th, 2005 at 09:13 PM.
February 10th, 2005, 12:25 AM #12
And just for good measure...
Here's my same two people, just a lot closer up, to show the textures that are actually there. I particularly like the detail on the guy's hands - the veins and whatnot. Other than posing them, I only added a couple of fill lights to the scene. So this picture took about 10 minutes, most of it just working on the poses. Given a lot of hours, one can really sink your teeth into this and come up with good stuff, I think.
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February 10th, 2005, 06:40 AM #13
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First of all, I like your Asian temple. Nice peaceful mood.
Now, about the ninjas, hmm...
I'm a 3D animator not a texture/lighting specialist, but I know enough about computer graphics to see why your current figures look strange. Not because of the stiff poses, those are fixable if you would photograph yourself in the same poses and use the pictures as references for tweaking. No, the main problem is the lighting of your figures. Human skin is one of the hardest materials to reproduce in 3d art since we are familiar with skin on an instinct level. If the mixture of base colors, highlights, and shadows appears just a nuance wrong, the rendered figures look like plastic dolls.
I haven't used DAZ but if it's similar to Poser and Bryce, then the built-in lighting functions won't suffice to create a believable illusion of human skin--no matter how good the textures and no matter how experienced the artist. From the four DAZ promo-pictures, only the last one has an acceptable lighting, and I suspect that's because it's black-and-white. In b&w renderings there are only brightness changes to worry about, not color hue changes too.
Sooo, either you delve deep into 3d graphics, then prepare yourself to learn programs like Maya or XSI (they are expensive for a reason), make yourself familiar with area lights, radiosity and translucency, and read "Lighting and Rendering" by Jeremy Birn. The book is a little dated but still the best introduction for this topic. Also, study Rembrandt and Rubens until you understand how the old masters managed to copy human skin in paint. Their tricks work for 3d renderings as well.
Or, if you don't have the time to do all that and spend a few months practicing on top, then I would suggest you shy away from using any 3d humans on your book cover. They really look awful if not done right. I apologize for having such a harsh opinion about this, but for once I'm sure my opinion is true
February 10th, 2005, 08:00 AM #14
He certainly sounds like he knows what he's talking about. Kind of what I was trying to say in my earlier post, but not quite as convincingly.
What happened to painting and drawing anyway? Is everything computer generated today?
February 10th, 2005, 10:56 AM #15Originally Posted by lego
And yes, DAZ is pretty much just like Poser; it was developed by the folks who produce the Vicky and Mike figures that I've used in my scene, so that they would not be stuck producing products for another product that they had no control over. I believe there may have been some license fee issues involved as well (to have access to new features in recent versions of Poser, or some such thing). DAZ Studio is still in beta, but is pretty well developed even so.


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ROCHESTER — Last year, Finishing Touches did not win one game in the Rochester Men's Hockey League.Two games into the 2012-13 season, FT is 2-0.Nick French recorded a hat trick Monday as Finishing Touches (2-0-0) vanquished Seacoast Kettlebell, 4-1. Jeff Lonsinger also scored and Ethan Baker made 35 saves.For Seacoast (1-1-0), Bill Hopkins scored and Derek Colwell stopped 30 shots.RSA Realty and DeNiro Development played to a 0-0 tie.Casey Cox had 28 saves for RSA (1-0-1), while pat Giguere stopped 34 shots for DeNiro (0-1-1).Matt McGilvray scored twice for Towle Pallet, which edged Merrimack Mortgage, 4-3.Scott Brown and Matt Negm also scored for Towle (1-1-0). Dan Trepanier stopped 29 shots.Doug Colwell had two goals for Merrimack (0-2-0). Eric Flynn also scored. Derek Colwell made 28 saves.GOLFDamon takes eighthNEWPORT — Farmington's Jordan Damon shot a 177 over 38 holes to place eighth at the NHIAA Division IV golf championships held over two days at Newport Country Club.Damon advanced to the final day with an 87 last Thursday and followed that up with a 90 on Saturday. Moultonborough's Hayden Maroun won the title with a 150.Spaulding's Ben Breton (81) and Austin Adjutant (88) competed in the D-I championship at Cochecho Country Club in Dover last Thursday, but did not advance to the final day.VOLLEYBALLSpaulding falls to 8-6SALEM — The Spaulding volleyball team was swept by Salem (13-1) in Division I on Friday. Game scores were 25-7, 25-13 and 25-18. Brooke Creteau turned in a solid performance at outside hitter with a pair of kills. Spaulding (8-6) hosts Merrimack next Friday.The Red Raiders beat Bedford in five games on Oct. 3.Spaulding won by game scores of 26-24, 25-23, 13-25, 24-26, 15-5.Gabby Connelly had 42 digs and four aces to lead the way. Seanna Flynn and Jane Douglas added eight kills each, while Jade Glidden and Ali Trueworthy had 15 assists apiece.Tigers rise to 11-0ALTON — The Farmington volleyball team stayed unbeaten in Division III with Tuesday's 3-1 win at Prospect Mountain.The Tigers (11-0) won by game scores of 25-9, 28-30, 25-11, 25-12. Prospect is 2-9.Marissa Peart led Farmington with 20 kills, eight digs and three aces. Kayla Squires served 24 of 26 with eight aces, nine digs and six kills. Kasey Memmolo added 34 assists and 10 digs, while Kelsey Gregoire had five kills, four aces and two blocks.Farmington played at Inter-Lakes Wednesday past deadline and hosts Nute on Friday.The Tigers were a 3-0 winner over Portsmouth Christian on Friday.Farmington won by game scores of 25-15, 25-21, 25-16. PCA is 7-4.Peart led the Tigers with 16 kills and nine digs, Memmolo added 30 assists and four aces, Kayla Squires had six aces and served 23 for 23. Jennelle Thompson had 27 digs.FOOTBALLSpaulding loses at WinnacunnetHAMPTON — The Spaulding football team fell 34-20 at Winnacunnet (6-0, 4-0) on Friday night in Division II.Spaulding is 1-5 overall, and 1-4 in D-II. Sam Ouellette ran for a touchdown and threw a 67-yard touchdown pass to Mike Bellio. Trey Scott scored on a 98-yard kick-off return.Spaulding is at Manchester West this Friday.


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Texmex Shredded Chicken
This is simple texmex spiced chicken that can be used in many dishes such as tacos, burritos, enchiladas, quesadillas, etc.
1 small chicken
1 tablespoon oil
1 small onion (chopped)
2 cloves garlic (chopped)
1 tablespoon chili powder
1 teaspoon cumin
1/2 teaspoon oregano
1 cup tomato puree
salt and pepper to taste
1. Rinse the chicken.
2. Place chicken in a pot and cover with water.
3. Bring to a boil, reduce heat and simmer for 1 hour.
4. Shred the chicken. (Forks work well for this.)
5. Heat the oil in a pan.
5. Add the onions and saute until tender, about 5-7 minutes.
6. Add the garlic, chili and cumin and saute until fragrant, about a minute.
7. Add the shredded chicken, oregano, tomato sauce, salt and pepper and cook for 5-10 minutes.
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War Inc. Overview
War Inc. Battle Zone is an MMOFPS designed to offer a high quality combat experience similar to Call of Duty or Battlefield. Players may choose two of several starting weapons, and enjoy a class-free, team-based combat experience. The game features several modes including Conquest (capture and defend style), Sabotage (bomb run), and Deathmatch (free-for-all). Players can rank up their soldier through participating in matches and demonstrating tactical and combat skill. They can then use the money they earn to buy temporary or permanent weapons, protective gear, skills, and temporary buffs.
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War Inc. Review
By, Jaime Skelton
A truly good online shooter is hard to come by. Consider that an online shooter must encourage and reward progress on a permanent level, yet must balance each game carefully so that skill, and not gear or overall experience, proves the deciding factor in a battle. For free-to-play shooters, this becomes more challenging as companies must balance fairness versus profit; in short, they must find ways to offer enticing items to players without offering a "pay to win" model. Yet War Inc. Battle Zone, published by Arktos Entertainment, seems to have snuck out of hiding to deliver a solid, balanced first-person shooter experience.
First to Arms
War Inc. is installed quickly and easily, either through their website or through Steam. Once the game is run for the first time, you'll be capable of setting up your soldier for battle; the game does not offer character creation, customization, or multiple character slots. The game will take you through a series of tutorial screens, during which you will also be able to choose your starting gear. This starting gear is permanent, and gives you a good variety of primary and secondary weapons and some basic armor (you'll also get some temporary bonus armor to give you a head start for the first two weeks). The screens also let you choose your first skill point and ability, both of which are permanent. From there, you're kicked into the lobby and on your own.
Managing Your Merc
While the tutorial gets you off to a great start, it doesn't introduce you to managing your mercenary. In the main interface of War Inc., you'll find two important menu options: My Merc and Armory. My Merc allows you to assign your skill points; these are earned at each level ("rank") up and allow you to specialize in multiple trees that give you bonuses in combat, from increased gun damage and player detection to breath holding, armor, and health bonuses. Ranking up also grants you rewards including gold, dollars, and temporary items. My Merc also lets you look at your stats and ranking, achievements, game calendar, rewards, and more.
The Armory is where your soldier can change their equipment. You can equip weapons in "loadouts," which act as saved sets of gear as you enter battle. While you cannot change skills or mercenaries, you can change loadouts during battle, letting you switch between weapon sets (for example, switching between an assault-focused and a sniper-focused gear set) when you respawn. Each mercenary can carry into battle a primary weapon (machine guns, assault rifles, and support weapons), a secondary weapon (shotgun or submachine gun), a pistol, two items (including grenades), and two abilities. Your mercenary can also equip a set of armor (not included in load outs) which grant some armor and occasional extra boosts, such as night vision.
Rushing into Battle
So you've equipped your favorite weapons, and now you're ready to enter battle. The game's main lobby is found under the glowing "Play Game" menu option. Here, you can choose to create practice games (unranked games that offer no experience), ranked games, see active games, join a sabotage match, or choose "quick match." While there's merit in creating your own games, or browsing the active games (which include server pre-made games based on region and level range), your best bet is to join a "quick match," which will throw you into a game in your preferred region and game type.
There are four game modes in War Inc.: Conquest, Deathmatch, Sabotage, and Siege. All games are team-based and designed for at least eight players, although they can run with at least two players on each side. Conquest is a capture-and-defend style map with five control points, and is the most popular game mode. Deathmatch is a team free-for-all on a small, tight-quarters map. Sabotage challenges teams to plant a bomb while preventing the opposing team from planting theirs; while Siege is a defend-or-conquer style map.
Green, Not Dead
It's expected that any newbie in a shooter is going to spend their first few minutes not only wet behind the ears, but eating a lot of dirt. Thankfully, War Inc. does a masterful job in making sure that newbies are competent once they gain their bearings. Controls are typical for an MMOFPS (using the mouse to aim and fire, moving with WASD, using Ctrl to crouch and Shift to sprint, for example), so any amateur FPS player should feel at home quickly. The greatest challenge is in learning each map, along with learning the way each game mode works the first time you play it (particularly Sabotage).
While War Inc. doesn't seem focused on balancing teams based on rank alone, there's no reason to look at your team and panic if the numbers initially seem off. In fact, weapons are also fairly balanced within reason so that even cash-shop only weapons are only marginally better overall than their lesser counterparts. Advantage on the battle field comes down to skill, personal experience, and map knowledge and awareness.
Gearing Up
The game's store offers weapons, armor, abilities, and other perks and account features. While designed primarily as a cash shop, the shop accepts both earned in-game currency ("gold dollars") as well as paid currency ("gold points"). Both of these currencies can be earned in game, and are refreshingly easy to earn. While many MMOFPS games reward gold dollars only on winning, or very sparingly on a loss, War Inc. also rewards players for headshots, avenge kills, capturing flags, and special "VIP" style achievements each match. Gold Points can also be earned for ranking up, joining Clans, and meeting other challenges, making it so that a single cent doesn't need to be spent in game to enjoy play.
Almost all items in the shop accept both currencies as payment. Weapons are available from 1-day to 30-day rentals at very low, affordable prices with the in-game currency, and are also available as permanent weapons (sometimes with both currencies, sometimes only with gold points). Cosmetic items, experience and gold boosts, and abilities are also available on this dual basis.
Final Verdict: Great
On the surface, War Inc. is a standard MMOFPS with good graphics. In fact, the game's graphics are so good, they have high system requirements – possibly pushing a lot of potential players out of consideration, or forcing them to play at low, suboptimal specs just to get smooth enough frame rate to aim. None of the game modes particularly shine as unique, and the game lacks additional "wow" features, such as crafting, social interaction (there's no chat lobby), or vehicle combat. What stands out the most is War Inc.'s map designs: they are substantially different from each other, well-designed, and allow players to use the entire environment to their advantage – from climbing atop cliffs to find an ideal sniping spot to spying on the enemy through a hole in the wall.
Despite its vanilla-ness, War Inc. is surprisingly good for a free-to-play MMO; it aspires to be what Battlefield Play4Free should have been – and succeeds. The game balances play evenly between newbies and veterans, offers unique maps that require strategy instead of zerging, and plays smoothly with no downtime between matches. War Inc. delivers a great experience that keeps you logged in for hours, and is well worth checking out for any FPS fan.
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Processor: Intel Core 2 Duo 1.8GHz or similar AMD
Memory: 2GB of RAM
Hard Disk Space: 2GB of HDD space
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Lemongrass Shrimp
I am lucky that I live in Orange County because I can pretty much get all the ingredients I want at the many ethnic food stores here. Whenever I want to cook Chinese, there is 99 Ranch Market. When I am in the mood for Japanese food, I go to Mitsuwa or Marukai. And when I need ingredients for Malaysian, Thai, or Vietnamese, I head to Little Saigon.
Whenever I shop at Little Saigon, I tend to go hog wild on the spices and aromatics—lemongrass, turmeric, galangal, basil, fresh Thai chilies, etc. Things are cheaper, fresher at Little Saigon, so I always buy more than what I need. Case-in-point: I have 10 stalks of lemongrass in my fridge now because it was on sale! When life gives me lemongrass, I make lemongrass chicken or lemongrass shrimp, like what I have here.
This lemongrass shrimp is aromatic, mouthwatering, and extremely tasty with steamed rice, plus it's super easy to cook (it took me only 15 minutes). My designer and developer R at Zedesino recently told me that he loves shrimp, so I wanted to dedicate this lemongrass shrimp recipe to him so he can make the dish. I also wanted to thank him for making the new design of Rasa Malaysia so gorgeous looking. He is awesome!
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This looks so good, I love it. I'll try this lemongrass shrimp tomorrow, for a party.
may i have some……………..
Those chilies look like they mean business!!!
Got to get some lemongrass…..
I need to get some lemongrass…
I can well imagine lemongrass adding heavily aroma and flavor to this dish…
Those shrimps and chillies looks amazing Bee..
Can't wait for your Cookbook, just saw a little glimpse of the beauty at Nami blog….
Beautiful Picture!!!
I just bought shrimp today and this will be the perfect way to use them up. Thanks for sharing the recipe!
4 months ago before I left my vacation home in Nevada, I threw in the left over fresh lemon grass, cilantro, shallots and asparagus + sweet basil seeds. To my surprise, they grown so well and lots of basil leaves, except the cilantro. The basil was like 2.5 feet high in spite of no one being there except the sun and the water dripping. It's not only convenient when you need them and it's organic too!
Wow, a great recipe and a list of all the resources for Asian ingredients. I also live in Orange County.
This is a great dish, Bee. Love how you used it to create a simple yet appetizing dish. Perfect with rice or noodles – yum! Can't live without lemongrass…
I love shrimp! This looks so good and only 15 minutes total…I'm definitely going to try this!
Made this for dinner last night. It was super delicious and fast to make! I didn't have bird eye chilies, so I added cayenne instead. Thanks for sharing!
I love this recipe I do live in Phoenix Az and we have Lee Lee supermarket easy for me to find all the ingredients.


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Any code that was distributed under the GPL license stays under the GPL. But you are free to relicense your code however you want and distribute that however you want.
The author doesn't need to license his own code to himself. The license is for other people.
Yeah you can relicense your code, but any of it that is already protected by the GPL remains protected by it. The only way around that is to replace protected code. The GPL protects actual code. Not a version of the code. Not the name of the code. Not an idea of the code... But the actual code.... If you are using any code that can be shown as protected by the gpl then it is protected by it. Period. It doesnt matter what the copyright holder chose. If he chose to violate the gpl then it is still a violation.
If I license some code as GPL and then make a BSD licensed copy of it it still needs to abide by the terms of the GPL. It doesnt protect the copyright holder. Just the code.
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There are so many thousands of GPL violations today because the FSF still doesnt have the resources to start cracking down on these kinds of violations. There is more GPL code in closed products than original code I'm certain.
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Only the code you distributed under the terms of the GPL is covered by the GPL. If you distribute the same code under the terms of the BSD license, then that version will be under the BSD.
In fact, this happens all the time. A license cannot protect a creation from its creator. A license governs other people's use.
Any such license would be simply illegal and unenforceable and against every single copyright convention out there.According to the terms of the GPL as a copyright holder you don't have rights to the code.
What is true is that OTHER people cannot relicense YOUR code, if they got it under the GPL. YOU can relicense it all you want, as long as you remain the copyright holder.
The actual code that you gave together with the license and which the third party received together with the license.The actual code itself. Not the version or the name.
Not the copy sitting on your hard drive. You can do whatever you want with that, as long as you are the copyright holder.
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If its the same code then its the same code. It doesnt protect the idea of the code.
Going by what your understanding, If I author a piece of code, license it under GPL to Mark, license under BSD to Jim, and sell a proprietary piece of software based on the code to company X under a proprietary license, your claim is that I have violated the GPL. Now who will enforce compliance upon me for violating the GPL by distributing my work under another licence apart from the GPL? Will some random person I have violated the terms to use my code in the way I see fit? or will I claim violation against myself?
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Win 7 Security Cleaner Pro Removal Guide (Uninstall Instructions)By Lawrence Abrams on April 19, 2013 @ 10:43 PM | Read 52,561 times.
Win 7 Security Cleaner Pro is a rogue anti-spyware program from the Rogue.FakeRean-Braviax family of computer infections. This infection is considered a rogue anti-spyware program because it purposely displays fake scan results, false security warnings, hijacks your web browser, and does not allow you to run your legitimate Windows applications. This scareware is promoted through web sites that have been hacked with scripts that try to install the software by exploiting vulnerabilities on your computer. It is also promoted through Trojans that pretend to be legitimate programs that are required to view an online video, but instead install the infection.
When installed, Win 7 Security Cleaner Pro will be configured to start every time you try to launch a program on your computer. Once started it will pretend to scan your computer and then display numerous infected files. If you attempt to remove these infections, though, it will prompt you to first purchase the program. As the scan results are fake, please ignore them. Win 7 Security Cleaner Pro also attempts to protect itself from being removed by terminating any program that you try to run. When it terminates a program it will then state that the file is infected with the Trojan-BNK.Win32.Keylogger.gen infection. As your files are not infected, please ignore this message.
While the infection is started it will also show a variety of security warnings that are worded to think that your computer has a serious security issue. These alerts include:
Just like the scan results, these security alerts are fake and should be ignored. Finally, Win 7 Security Cleaner Pro will hijack your web browser so that you cannot visit web sites. When you attempt to visit a web site, you will instead be shown a page that states that the page you are visiting may be a security risk.
As you can see, this infection was created to scare you into thinking your computer has a security problem due to your computer being infected. Please do not purchase this program , and if you already have, please contact your credit card company and dispute the charges stating that the program is a computer infection and a scam. To remove Win 7 Security Cleaner Pro and related malware please use the guide below.
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I'd rather cut my hand off than working on Ubuntu's development. I would like to see Ubuntu and Canonical fail not because I think it is too mainstream, but because it falsifies the purpose of a free operating system in the interest of making money with it.
Their intent to attract new developers is not beneficial to Linux and is just an expression of the strive for more profit.
And how is wanting to attract new developers to Linux not benefiting Linux? Is it because Canonical is the one wanting to do the attracting? That's petty. I award you a box of Fail.
While Ubuntu is not my personal cup of tea and as such I have no interest in actually using it I am thankful for it's existance as it has indeed improved Linux desktop share and has become the closest thing to a 'Linux for the mainstream' solution.
Also barring the existance of a 'linux powered steam-box project' I'd wager a company like Valve would never had targeted Linux for Steam if it haven't been for a mainstream desktop end-user oriented distro like Ubuntu, no matter if Microsoft was threatening to eat their lunch or not.
Of course the downside with an emerging 'standard' desktop distro is that it can cause incompabilities when software is targeted directly at a specific distro, particularly if that distro developes 'non-standard' subsystems which are hard to support elsewhere unless you are willing to 'buy the whole farm'. The latter is certainly a risk as it seems Ubuntu is trying hard to have developers target their distro specifically rather than Linux distros in general.
Overall though I think Ubuntu has had a great positive effect on Linux on the desktop, and also that if they start overstepping boundaries there will be an appropriate reaction (like with the amazon search 'feature'). When all is said and done, vendor lock-in isn't really an option when it comes to open source systems.


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i have a 6'2 futura. I'm 5'11 190 so its a high performance board for me in NJ, but honestly I think I can go smaller. Firewire's website has a sizing guide, but you can also base the board's volume (multiply the dimensions together) and compare it with another board you have or have ridden, by doing the same math. Part of the fun is figuring out the right board to plunk 700$ on. Heritage in OC/NJ demo's some of their firewire's too.
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Why buy a firewire? Why not boost your local economy and order a board from a shaper in town? You'll pay less and get a board shaped by someone who rides that same waves you do as opposed to paying more and getting a chip stamped out in a factory in some landlocked Asian country. Think about it.
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The top three series on the list remains the same year over year, but with a new victor. Whereas Showtime's Dexter topped the most pirated series in 2011, negative critical reaction perhaps bumped it down a slot to No. 2, allowing HBO's Game of Thrones to ride to pirated victory with 4.3 million downloads per episode. Similar to last year, NBC's The Big Bang Theory — whose audience pretty much has to pirate the series out of geeky principle — is the highest network performer on the list, coming in at No. 3 with 3.2 million downloads per episode.
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What would make you think Paran was anything otherwise? It was pointed out over and over again that the gods were using him to meddle in the mortal world.
Also, nice plot hole find. I am pretty sure (like all things) this will be answered later in the series, or left completely ambiguous. I was under the impression that the decks do change though.
June 16th, 2011, 10:58 AM #62
I'm sure Paran will eventually be something more than he is. At the very least a hero for Good. We'll see. =)
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The Deck does change as do the gods and goddesses. As for Shadowthrone and The Rope, they ascended into preexisting but then vacant roles.
The reader's understanding of the Deck and the gods at the beginning of book two is very limited. By the end of book three it's fleshed out pretty well.
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The Deck of Dragons resembles a Tarot card deck in that it consists of cards that divine the future. The difference is that a real Deck of Dragons adjusts itself to the changing circumstances of the pantheon. If an entity ascends or dies, the readings of the deck will change to reflect this fact. The pictures on the cards reflect the gods/ascendants that each is made to represent. Not all cards are active on all continents; for example Obelisk is referred to as inactive on Seven Cities at the beginning of Deadhouse Gates.
I'll add that the Deck itself is not magical so if a new influence were to come into being you would need to make a new card.
Before we discuss any further let me say that the terms gods and goddesses get thrown around a lot in the series and how you're current defining them (at least how you appear to be defining them by your previous posts) seems to be the main cause of your confusion. Gods are not all powerful (at least none that I've read about though the power level of some are pretty up there) and are not paragons of their roles. So the iffy killing of the bouncer in the first book was just sloppy work by the Rope.
As for your last post, yes their roles are defined. I'll leave it at that as saying more would spoil some good parts. Yes gods can die. Forgotten gods lose their ability to interact with the world but do not lose any power. K'rul is an example of this.
June 16th, 2011, 02:11 PM #66
"a real Deck of Dragons adjusts itself to the changing circumstances of the pantheon. If an entity ascends or dies, the readings of the deck will change to reflect this fact."
"I'll add that the Deck itself is not magical so if a new influence were to come into being you would need to make a new card."
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So Shadowthrone and Rope are recently ascended but their taken roles are old so their cards would be in the deck already. Just because the being a card represents dies or falls from power doesn't mean the card is removed. If a new role shows up a new card is needed. Hope this clears things up.
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June 17th, 2011, 08:38 AM #69
I just want to mention this because it's cool.
Mappo is a Trell. They are supposedly very big, very strong, with skins as strong and thick as a Rhino. Or some such. They just now explained how his whole tribe was whipped out. And how the Nameless Ones decreed he was meant to make sure this never happened again. A little ways back he made comment about not letting Icarium's rage get too far, else he was afraid he couldn't pull him back. And that he was to protect him from himself...etc. Even if I didn't know what I know about Icarium(that his rage can level a city), I think I would guess right now, and to me it seems pretty obvious not some wild epiphany, that Icarium went into his rage fit and destroyed the whole Trell village and all it's people. Which would explain the sad/strange connection he has with Icarium.
June 27th, 2011, 04:47 PM #70
I am about 2/3rds of the way through Deadhouse Gates. It's been mixed so far, IMO. Some parts have been great, the large scale battles in particular. It's also eased the reader in a heckuva lot better than GotM did, and for the most part it's much easier to follow, and the characters have been much easier to get attached to (Kalam, Fiddler, Mappo and Icarium, the Historian has been great, a few others I can't think of off the top of my head).
Except Felisin. Man do I hate her. She is just the worst. I cringe every time a Felisin POV starts. Though I am pretty interested in where she's going, now that they've gotten through the thing, and then through the other thing, and then passed through the 3rd thing, and met the people. But being curious about where she's going/what's going to happen isn't enough to make me not hate reading about her. We get it, lady, you hate everyone and revel in being a pain in the ass. Great.
Sigh. Rant over.
June 27th, 2011, 07:35 PM #71
I do LIKE it though. I just don't have the incessant desire to read the rest like I did with GRRM, Abercrombie, or the recent WoT books.
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The last 100-150 pages might change your mind on that. I was so disgusted with GotM that I just read DG because most reviewers who read it said to. I was close to giving up on the series completely (it was good, but not great at that point). The ending is fantastic and makes the hard journey so worth taking. And I hear that MoI is equally as fantastic.
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June 28th, 2011, 11:26 AM #75
WHAT THE #$q%&* DOES "ASCEND/ASCENDED/ASCENDANCY MEAN!!1!!
Man is that driving me crazy. I have to agree with what Chris said above. I think Erikson intentionally keeps the magic/god system unclear. It's annoying.
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What were some of the obstacles you faced as a woman pursuing a career as a heart surgeon?
Simply being a woman was probably the single biggest obstacle I faced. Many of my colleagues discouraged me from trying to become a cardiac surgeon and, instead, encouraged me to go into more "female friendly" surgical specialties such as OB-GYN or plastic surgery. The complete lack of female cardiac surgeon mentors and role models was also challenging to overcome.
What's the most challenging surgery you've performed? What's the longest?
The most challenging (and longest) surgery that I performed was a 17-hour mechanical heart implant known as a VAD. The patient was a man who, as a teenager, underwent radiation for the treatment of cancer. The radiation scarred his chest so badly that it made the operation nearly impossible.
How does your faith influence your role as a doctor?
My faith is very calming to me, especially in times of a life or death crisis. When I need inner strength in an operating room or at a patient's bedside, I pray. I believe that I have been given a gift—the ability to heal hearts—and I am humbled by that and truly thankful. This feeling of gratitude is reflected in how I treat patients: with gratitude, dignity, and respect.
As a mom, are you instilling heart healthy habits in your two young sons?
Absolutely! We are seeing alarming rates of cardiovascular disease in children and young adults due to obesity which leads to hypertension (high blood pressure) and diabetes—both of which are significant risk factors for heart disease and stroke. I have taught my sons which foods are "healthy for your body" and which are not. They will also point to a total stranger who is smoking and say, "You know, that's dangerous for your body." They could be the poster children for heart disease prevention.
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I became so frustrated seeing women whose disease had simply progressed to the point where they were either at high risk for surgery or inoperable. If we can identify women with heart disease sooner than end-stage disease, we can save lives—and that's what I'm in the business of doing.
So I initially wanted to write an informative book on heart disease in women. I wanted to include actual stories of women who have died from the disease to make the book less prescriptive and didactic and more entertaining to the reader. It was my agent who said that, in addition to telling the story of heart disease and the women who die from it, I needed to tell my story. This is how the book morphed into a memoir. I believe that there are a lot of women like me who are trying to balance a career and a family; women who are trying to have it all. And why shouldn't we? So often women feel that they must choose between a career and a family and I am here to say that you don't have to choose. If I can do it, anyone can!
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It was 44 years ago this afternoon (January 30th, 1969) that the Beatles performed for the last time in public, on the roof of their Apple headquarters building in London. For the better part of that January, the group had been filming their rehearsals for a planned comeback concert, before band politics forced them to abort the plan and concentrate on recording a new album, tentatively titled Get Back.
The film crew continued filming the recording sessions for what eventually became the Let It Be album and movie, and on January 30th, the Beatles finally gave in to director Michael Lindsay-Hogg's request for a live concert finale for the film. Rather than the various exotic locations that had been tossed around for the group's first public appearance in nearly two-and-a-half years, such as a cruise ship, a mental asylum, or a Roman amphitheater, the group had their equipment set up on top of their business offices at 3 Saville Row for a brief lunchtime set -- similar to the ones they used to do years earlier in Liverpool's Cavern Club.
The Beatles and keyboardist Billy Preston, who were decked out in winter coats, played for about 42 minutes for a handful of fans, their wives, office workers and their personal staff. They performed a total of nine full songs: three versions of "Get Back," two versions of "Don't Let Me Down," two versions of "I've Got A Feeling," and one each of "Dig A Pony," and "One After 909" -- which was one of John Lennon and Paul McCartney's earliest compositions, dating back to the 1950's.
Ken Mansfield, the former U.S. manager of Apple Records was among the handful of insiders present at the rooftop concert that day. He recalled prior to the lunchtime gig walking in on the four Beatles who were using one of the Apple offices as a makeshift dressing room: "It was like walking in on a band, a nervous bunch of guys getting ready to do an audition. I don't know if it's because they hadn't played together, or whether they were trying to put the set together, but it was one of those kind of tense things where they were nervous. When we locked the doors upstairs, and the minute they started playing -- and y'know all the. . . everything that was going down, all the stuff. It's like it all went away and I really believe in my mind that they forgot everything and they were what they were. They were the Beatles."
In between songs, while the film crew was busy setting up, the Beatles briefly ran through a few standards, including a few bars of "Danny Boy," "A Pretty Girl Is Like A Melody," and "God Save The Queen."
George Harrison had made it clear prior to the impromptu concert that none of his songs would be played on the roof. Toward the end of the Beatles' set, the police were called and politely demanded that the group quit disturbing the peace, as dozens of office workers had begun crowding around in the streets near the Beatles' headquarters to hear the band play.
At the end of the final performance of "Get Back," Lennon uttered the immortal line, "I'd like to thank you on behalf of the group and ourselves and I hope we passed the audition." It was the last time that the Beatles would ever perform in public.
Although never released in its entirety, most of the Beatles' "Rooftop Concert" has been widely bootlegged over the years. The Beatles themselves have also issued a lot of the rooftop concert over various releases. 1970's Let It Be album featured an edited live performance of "Dig A Pony," "I've Got A Feeling," and "One After 909." The group's final performance of "Get Back" was included on 1996's The Beatles Anthology 3 album, and the 2003 Let It Be. . . Naked collection included new composite takes from different versions of "Don't Let Me Down," and "I've Got A Feeling." In one form or another, at least one version of all the songs from the group's final performance has been officially released.
The version of "Get Back" that closes the Let It Be album, which was long thought to be a live take, is actually a cheat -- Lennon and McCartney's pre and post-song comments were tagged by producer Phil Spector onto an abbreviated version of the studio-recorded single version.
Author Richie Unterberger, who recently published the book The Unreleased Beatles, says that if it wasn't for Paul McCartney holding the band together at that point, they would have easily fallen apart: "Paul's gotten a little bit of a bad rap for how he acted during those sessions. I think he was pushy and bossy at some points. You can see it in the final film, which they edited pretty heavily. On the other hand, someone had to do that and he was the guy to do it. Nobody else would have done it. If he wasn't there, nothing would have been done."
Ringo Starr's former producer and songwriting partner Mark Hudson remembers Ringo saying that up until the Beatles' split, they always knew how to pull it together musically: "Like Ringo said, 'With all of the stuff that was going on during (the) Let It Be (sessions), the arguments and George leaving, as soon as I would count the song off and we would start playing, we were those guys again in Hamburg and in the Cavern (Club), and all that went away and we were that great band. And then when that song was over, we went back to that 'I don't like you, I don't trust you, why are you hurting me, and that.'"
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