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In the Hands of the Enemy: 11. Rolly's Decision
"Orcs," he muttered.
"Nonsense," Rolly said, pulling him along the passageway and righting him as he stumbled and careened into the wall. "It's just an old salt mine."
Aragorn squinted at his surroundings. It was indeed a mine. A long-abandoned one, by the perilous condition of the beams lining the passageway. "What are we doing in a mine?" He had no memory of entering a mine, and found it difficult to imagine he would have done so voluntarily. He fought for recall, and came up with only fragmented images of Teburic lying on the ground with a knife in his belly - or was it Baranuir?
"We have to hide. Teburic's men are after us, remember?" The boy tugged at his sleeve. "Come on."
An abandoned salt mine. Aragorn knew of such a place, a few miles off the Greenway, though he had never been there. He stopped short, resisting the pull of the slightly built boy. He didn't care what kind of mine it was. It bore entirely too close a resemblance to an orc den for his taste. "We're getting out of here," he said, turning around.
The boy pulled him back. "No!" he cried. "Teburic's men are coming! We have to hide in here."
"If they find us in here we'll be trapped. We need to get back to Bree. Where did you leave the horses?" Aragorn leaned heavily against the wall, fighting dizziness. He shut his eyes agains the dancing images crowding his vision and pressed a hand to his pounding head as the buzzing in his ears thrummed ever louder. He felt himself sliding down the wall, rough stone scraped against his torn back, and forced his eyes open just as four goblins rounded the corner ahead. He knew that they were real when their hands closed on his arms. "Told you I smelled orcs," he managed to say, as they yanked him to his feet.
The orcs followed the boy down the old mine tunnels, hauling the senseless Ranger between them. Arriving at a torch-lit chamber, they dragged him to a corner and made to fasten him to restraints bolted into the stone walls.
"No!" the boy said, stepping between the orcs and the chains. "Leave him alone. He is nearly finished." The orcs shrugged and released their hold, dropping the Man to the ground. The boy knelt beside him and reached through strands of mud-caked hair to feel for a pulse. Settling back on his heels, he directed his gaze at the expectant orc captain. "We are being followed by two Men. Hold them off until I am finished here."
The orc guffawed and turned to his comrades, his hands tightening on the hilt of his blade. "Did you hear that, boys? Hold them off, indeed - we'll have a feast!" With answering grunts of approval, his underlings lurched out to the corridor.
"Orcs," the boy muttered under his breath. He turned back to Ranger and brushed a clump of dried mud from his cheek. "Why did you have to be so stubborn, Dúnadan?" he said softly. "It would have been so much easier the other way. But since you're a man of honor, maybe you'll understand why I have to do this." He reached into his shirt and withdrew a glass vial. Holding it before the Ranger's face, he crushed it between his fingers, releasing a puff of gray powder into the man's nostrils. "Now, Strider, or whatever your name truly is – we will get to the truth."
"Strider," he whispered, leaning close to Ranger's ear. "Wake up." When there was no response, he jostled the cloaked shoulder. "Strider! Wake up!"
The man moaned slightly, his eyelids twitching. The boy leaned close. "Strider, can you hear me? It is I. Gandalf."
"Gandalf?" The Ranger was barely responsive, eyelids still closed.
"Yes, my friend. I am here. Everything will be all right, now."
"You're all right," the Ranger mumbled.
"Yes. I am fine. But I need your help, do you understand? Hundreds of orcs are massing near the Angle. They mean to wipe out the Dúnedain camps. You must pull all your men from their posts at the Shire boundaries to defend them."
The Ranger's head tossed from side to side. "Can't."
"No, you must."
"Why not?" The boy waited as the Ranger's face twitched in indecision. "Why not?" he repeated, pulling another vial from his shirt and releasing its pungent contents into the air before the Ranger's face.
The Ranger's eyes opened, glazed, unrecognizing. His breath hitched in shallow gasps as the drug overtook him. "You know," he rasped, as his eyelids closed again.
"No, tell me," the boy demanded, seizing the filth-encrusted cloak. It was not safe to give the man any more drugs but time was running out.
The Ranger's brows knotted. "Frodo," he whispered.
A Shire name. The boy leaned closer. "What about Frodo?"
The Ranger's head merely tossed again, back and forth against the rough stone, as if warding off a swarm of flies. "No," he whispered.
The boy took a deep breath and reached into his shirt again, withdrawing a third vial and crushing it. "You are right," he said. "We must protect Frodo. Where will he be safe?"
"Nowhere. He will be safe nowhere as long as he has it."
"Has what?" the boy pressed, but the Ranger's jaw was slackening and the tension was melting from his brow.
"Nowhere," the Ranger mumbled, his voice almost too faint to hear. After a moment, the boy sighed and reached into his shirt for another vial.
Halbarad rose from a crouch and mounted, reaching down to flick the largest clumps of mud from his boots before settling them in the stirrups. Adjusting the position of his bandaged calf against the saddle with a wince, he pulled the edge of his cloak hood aside and turned to meet Gandalf's eyes. "They split off from the trail here, went overland following this little creek. Aragorn's horse is still being led by the other," he added. Not once had he seen Aragorn's footprints on the ground, as he would have expected, stopping to read the lay of the land, to assess the condition of the road. He knew Gandalf would understand his meaning. Aragorn was never led.
Halbarad glanced about at the slumping hills on either side of the trail, their shoulders studded with trees whose naked branches dripped steadily in the cold rain. Suddenly, a memory came to him. "Oh, no," he groaned.
"What is it?"
"I know where they're headed," Halbarad said, hands tightening on the reins and legs unconsciously gripping the horse's flanks with new urgency. "Come on."
"I can't believe this was Strider's idea," Halbarad said after an hour more of picking their way along the creek-bed brought them to the base of a limestone-studded hillock and before it, the black maw of a mine entrance carved out of the hillside.
"Why not?" Gandalf asked.
"It's my guess that he'd sooner face a dragon in full wrath than go underground again any time soon," Halbarad said, not bothering to mention that it was a sentiment he shared. "On the other hand, at least it's out of the rain." He saw the chestnut mare he had given Aragorn tethered to a tree beside another horse. He dismounted and went over to her. "Hello, Daisy, have you been taking good care of Aragorn?" he asked, as the mare snickered softly in recognition and butted his shoulder. Halbarad reached to untie the reins that someone had fastened to a tree branch before turning back to Gandalf with narrowed eyes. "Strider would never tie up a horse in the wild," he said grimly, "and he wouldn't leave the horses in full view of the entry point."
The look in Gandalf's eyes said that he knew this as well, but he spared a slight smile. "Daisy?"
Halbarad flushed. "My granddaughter named her, if you must know." He reached into his saddlebags and began removing gear as Gandalf went to examine the mine entrance. Having rapidly donned every piece of weaponry and hardware in his possession, Halbarad went to join him, still fastening straps as he scanned the rocky ground in front of the mine entrance. "I can't see any tracks," he said, "but it's been raining hard all day. They had to have gone in this way. There's nowhere else to go."
"They went in," said Gandalf without explanation, his ageless blue eyes intent on the dark void of the mine shaft.
"We only have two torches," Halbarad said, with a glance at the wizard's staff. "Of course, I suppose you don't need one."
Gandalf didn't answer. The Ranger eyed the cracked and warped timbers which shored up the entrance worriedly and reached a hand to test the strength of the wood. "This looks pretty old."
"It was abandoned nearly 400 years ago," Gandalf said absently.
Halbarad glanced askance at the wizard. "Was that supposed to make me feel better?"
"Are you going in there?" Tillfield asked, scurrying up with Halbarad's Elven dagger held at the ready. The Ranger caught him with a firm hand on the small shoulder. "Not this time, Tillfield."
"I can fight, too," the hobbit protested.
"I know you can. That's why we need you to stay and protect the horses," Halbarad explained, with an eye roll at Gandalf over the hobbit's head. "It's a very important job. What if we came back out and someone had stolen them?"
"Halbarad is right," Gandalf said, inexplicably deciding to be helpful for once, and for once Halbarad almost wished he hadn't. He had been a hairsbreadth from giving in and allowing the boy to come along, where at least he and Gandalf could keep an eye on him. The idea of leaving the hobbit out here unprotected was worrisome.
Halbarad sighed and knelt before the small hobbit, grasping his arms. Facing the still-defiant gaze, he spoke firmly. "Now listen, Tillfield. We're going to lead the horses a bit further away. You must stay near them, and hide in the woods where you can see the mine entrance. Don't come out for anything – anything – except me and Gandalf. If we don't come out by - " the Ranger looked about, assessing the deepening afternoon light – "by dawn, take the chestnut and leave. She will let you mount her, but you may have to lead her to a tree. Can you do that?"
"But I want to help, too," Tillfield protested.
"You are helping, Tillfield," Halbarad answered, "but if we aren't out of that mine by dawn, we will need more help than you can give us."
"Don't worry, young Master Tillfield," Gandalf added with a reassuring wink as he helped Halbarad lead the growing herd to a copse out of sight of the entrance. "Halbarad and I are quite experienced in these matters. We will return shortly with Strider. You'll see. Just stay here and stay out of sight."
Gandalf quickly settled the hobbit with sufficient blankets and provisions to last the night, and turned back to the Ranger. "We will get him back," he promised as they walked together back to the mine entrance, leaving Halbarad to blink as he saw in the Wizard's eyes a flash of resolute lethality that Morgoth himself would not have lightly dismissed. Just as quickly, the eyes softened and the craggy old face relaxed again into a gentle smile, as Gandalf waved Halbarad forward with his staff. "Now, my dear Ranger, since you have more recent experience with such subterranean forays, I suggest you take the lead."
"Good plan," Halbarad muttered under his breath, as he stooped low to enter the mine. "It all turned out so well last time."
"I don't like the smell in here, Gandalf," Halbarad commented as he knelt to examine a tunnel intersection. "I can't see any tracks, but I'll bet my boots there are orcs around here somewhere." He nodded to a side passage, its timbered walls faintly illuminated by the soft glow from Gandalf's staff and the flickering light of his own torch. "They went that way." Halbarad started down the passageway and stopped short, bending low to examine the ground. "Look here."
Gandalf joined him in crouching low, lending the light of his staff to the object of Halbarad's scrutiny. In the mud, even the wizard could see the unmistakable impression of an orc boot.
"There goes the neighborhood," Halbarad remarked, standing and tightening the grip on his dagger. "All right. At least we know what we're up against."
He started off down the narrower passage, with Gandalf at his shoulder.
Scarcely five minutes had passed before the passage reached a four-way intersection and the orcs came at them from both sides. Halbarad was waiting for it and reflexively swung at the nearest one, dropping it headless to the ground with a stroke even Aragorn would have admired. On the follow-through, he managed to get an approximate head count of eight orcs on the attack. He thrust his blade into another one and saw in the corner of his eye that Gandalf was swinging away to similarly lethal effect. "Halbarad, cover me!" he shouted suddenly, and Halbarad got himself between the orcs and Gandalf just as the Wizard's sword dropped to the floor with a clatter.
Halbarad saw the staff come up and didn't need the warning to cover his eyes this time. As the anticipated flash of light faded behind his eyelids, he removed the hand he'd thrown over them and lunged forward at the incapacitated orcs. He got to two of them before they could orient themselves, and chased the others as they retreated blindly down the passageway.
With Gandalf right on his heels, and Halbarad right on theirs, the blinded orcs tumbled out into a large, torch-lit chamber which contained several more orcs who, it was unfortunately apparent, retained full possession of not only their faculties but also their weapons. As he heaved his sword at the first one, Halbarad saw in the shadows of the corner a dark, unmoving form resembling a very familiar Ranger.
The human boy kneeling beside him was rising, backing away, glancing toward the escape route of a darkened passage behind him. Gandalf's eyes were fixed on him like a hawk on a mouse as he sheathed his sword and raised his staff before him like a spear.
Halbarad withdrew his bloody blade from the belly of a dead orc.
Gandalf hesitated in his pursuit of the boy long enough to swing his head around in Halbarad's direction, gray hair flying about his shoulders. His eyes were lit with cold fire as they met Halbarad's, and his gaze darted to the motionless Ranger. "Get him out of here," he commanded, and turned back to follow the boy.
"Gandalf! Let him go!" Halbarad called after him as he disappeared from view. Sighing in frustration at Gandalf's impetuosity, he glanced warily around for further threats. But nothing that still moved kept his company in the dark chamber.
Halbarad rushed to the side of his Chieftain.
He knew even before dropping down on his knees beside him that he still lived. Even motionless and brutalized as he appeared, his body lacked the definitive slackness that Halbarad knew only too well.
"Elbereth," Halbarad murmured, reaching hesitantly to touch the skin of his kinsman's face, clammy with shock and ashen where it was not covered in mud, bruises, or blood. Aragorn's eyes were open but glazed and unseeing, sunken in darkened and hollow sockets.
"Aragorn," Halbarad whispered, bending close to his face. "Hold on. We're getting out of here." He grasped him by an arm and hoisted him over his shoulder, reaching to grab the torch as he pushed himself upright. With one last glance toward the dark passageway Gandalf had disappeared into, he made for the exit.
Halbarad ran through the dark corridors, praying to Ilúvatar that no more orcs would show up while he was trying to run through a fetid maze of damp, slick, passageways on a wounded leg, hauling a sword, a torch, and a Dúnadan Chieftain. Just as he was beginning to fear that he had taken a wrong turn, he saw a lighter patch of darkness ahead and stumbled out into the clearing, inhaling gasping lungfuls of sharp night air. It was not raining any more, but a chill dampness filled his chest as he ran down the short path.
Amongst the spiky silhouettes of trees, he made out the rounded dark shapes of horses, the lighter mist of their breath clouding the chill air. Halbarad ran across the rough ground toward them, stumbling as Aragorn's weight put him off-balance. "Tillfield," he gasped, swinging around clumsily. "Tillfield!"
"I'm here," the small voice answered, and Halbarad expelled a short gasp of relief at the sight of the hobbit emerging from the wood line.
"Are you all right?" Halbarad asked.
The hobbit nodded mutely, staring up in open-mouthed horror at the mud-drenched and motionless figure draped across Halbarad's shoulders.
"It's all right, he's alive," Halbarad said. He spotted a flat area beneath the trees and lowered Aragorn to the ground. Out of the corner of his eye he saw the hobbit standing behind his shoulder, small fists clenched and shoulders hitching in anguish. "Tillfield, don't fall apart on me, I need you," he said without taking his eyes off Aragorn. "Get me some water and blankets."
The hobbit handed him a waterskin. "Where is Gandalf?"
Halbarad took it from him, not answering. Aragorn was senseless and limp, his eyes dull with shock, his breath shallow and rapid. Halbarad ripped open what was left of his shirt and checked for wounds.
Sighing with relief at finding nothing grievous, he pulled Aragorn's head and shoulders up to rest against him. "Aragorn," he commanded, shaking him lightly. "Can you hear me? Aragorn!"
The ranger's shoulders twitched beneath Halbarad's hands and he took a long shuddering breath. His eyelids fluttered and he raised his head, trying twist around to see who held him.
"Steady," Halbarad said. "It's just me."
"Halbarad," Aragorn murmured, his voice faint and slurred by pain or shock.
"That's right. Everything is all right. You're safe now." Halbarad held him as Tillfield unfurled a blanket and spread it over him.
Aragorn was fighting for consciousness, his eyes struggling to focus. "Are you real?"
"Of course I'm real," Halbarad answered.
"What are you doing here?"
"I came to get my horse back," Halbarad whispered, not trusting his voice.
Aragorn's mouth twitched. "You're real," he whispered.
Halbarad closed his eyes and held the matted head tight against his chest for a moment. "Here. Try to drink a little." He raised the skin to his Aragorn's lips and managed to get some of the liquid into him before Aragorn's eyes rolled back and his head fell limply against Halbarad's shoulder once again.
Halbarad laid him down gently and turned him carefully on his side, pulling the blanket up over him. "Tillfield," he said to the hobbit as he rose to his feet, picking up his sword. "Stay here and take care of Strider. Whatever happens, don't let him come after me. Sit on him if you have to."
"Don't leave!" the hobbit cried.
Halbarad tightened his jaw. In truth, it was the last thing he wanted to do. He cast a last resigned glance at the still form beneath the blankets. "I have to," he answered. "I can't leave Gandalf in there alone."
"Nobody's leaving me anywhere," a familiar voice called from behind him.
"Gandalf!" the hobbit cried, tearing loose from Halbarad's grasp and running to the wizard as he broke into the clearing, the limp body of the boy from the mine lying in his arms.
Gandalf dropped his burden on the ground somewhat un-gently and caught the hobbit in an embrace as the small figure plunged into his robes. "Easy on an old man, Dudo," he grunted amicably. Grasping the hobbit firmly by his small shoulders, he extended him to arms' length, leaning close to examine him for signs of injury. "Dudo, are you sure you're all right?"
"I'm fine," the hobbit affirmed.
"Good." Gandalf moved past him with a reassuring ruffle of his hair and turned to kneel beside Aragorn.
"He's been beaten pretty badly," Halbarad said, dropping down next to him, "and his sword hand is a mess, but I can't find any other broken bones. He looks awful, though."
"He does indeed," the wizard concurred in a low voice, smoothing matted and mud-encrusted hair away from the gray skin of the ranger's face.
"He feels so clammy. Those little yellow glass things were all over the floor where I found him."
"We must get him back to Bree," Gandalf said, resting a hand on the ashen forehead. "And we must leave here before that one can summon further aid." The wizard cast a dark glance backward at the mysterious boy, who still lay unconscious where he had been dropped. "There are strange forces at work here."
Halbarad's eyes widened as he cast an incredulous glance at the boy. "Him?"
It was not a notion that particularly pleased Gandalf, either, but the evidence was mounting. "You had best tie him up before he awakens."
"What are you planning to do with him?" Halbarad asked.
"We are taking him with us," Gandalf answered, without looking up.
"Are you sure that's a good idea?" Halbarad asked. "Why not just leave him here?"
Gandalf was bent low over Aragorn and didn't answer. After a moment, Halbarad snorted in exasperation and went to find some rope.
"What kind of nonsense have you managed to get yourself caught up in this time, my old friend?" Gandalf murmured, removing the blanket to examine Aragorn more thoroughly. A cursory examination confirmed Halbarad's initial assessment, and Gandalf sighed and pulled the blanket back over the Ranger's shoulders. Nothing more could be done at the moment. More orcs were certainly in the area, and Gandalf was uncomfortable with the prospect that they were connected to the boy somehow.
"All right, this one is trussed up like a goose for market," Halbarad said from behind him. "We'd better get out of here before more orcs show up. Do you want me to take the boy or Aragorn?"
Gandalf reluctantly relinquished his hold on the unconscious Ranger and rose to his feet. "I will take the boy with me," he said. He gestured Halbarad to his fallen comrade, speaking words that earned him a look of astonishment. "Best remove his weapons."
Gray dawn was filtering through the overhanging tangle of bare branches before Gandalf finally called a halt. The party's travel throughout the waning hours of the night had been difficult, and though Halbarad would have chosen to continue the remaining several miles to re-connect with the Greenway before stopping for rest, he did not dispute the Wizard's decision. His back and arms were cramped and exhausted from holding Aragorn on the horse in front of him. The Ranger had been drifting in and out of delirium during their past few hours on the trail, at times becoming so agitated that Halbarad had trouble keeping him on the horse. The clamminess had left him, replaced by fever.
While Halbarad carried Aragorn to a sheltered place beneath the trees and wrapped him in blankets, Gandalf took their unconscious prisoner a safe distance away. By all appearances, the slender sprout of a boy lashed to a tree before him was an innocent. The fine locks of a child fell into his eyes, the long dark lashes of a child lay peacefully against his pale cheek.
Gandalf steeled himself against appearances, deeply, sickeningly certain that whatever had been done to Aragorn had been done at the hands of this child, and whatever had been done to the child was worse still. It remained to be seen whether it could be undone.
He reached a hand to the boy's forehead. "Wake up," he commanded.
The boy's eyes opened, widening with surprise when he saw the wizard poised inches from his face. The look in his eyes was terror born of recognition, and he struggled against his bonds before realizing he was hopelessly caught.
"So you know me," Gandalf said. "I wonder how. I am sure that we have never met."
Gandalf raised a water skin to the boy's mouth. "Are you thirsty? It has been a long ride." The boy clamped his mouth shut in a resolute grimace, defiance sparking in his gray eyes.
"Very well," Gandalf said. He lowered himself to the ground and settled himself against the tree next to the boy, pulling his pipe from the recesses of his robe and lighting it. "Terrible habit, I've been told," he said by way of apology. "But in my opinion, one of the greatest achievements of the hobbits. It does much to clear the mind and relax the body."
The boy was resolutely silent, glaring at him from beneath the swath of dark hair falling over his brow. Gandalf peered at him with a critical gaze. "You so resemble a Dúnadan, do you know that?"
"I do not!" the boy retorted, eyes flaring.
"And why does that suggestion bother you?" the Wizard asked.
"They are Men!"
"You are a Man, my boy," Gandalf said, "or at least you will be someday. There is no shame in being a Man. Who taught you that there was, I wonder?"
The boy lowered his eyes and was silent.
"What is your name, child?" the wizard asked.
The boy was silent for so long that Gandalf assumed he would not answer. But a twitch of the slim shoulders betrayed him at last, and the wizard looked over in time to see an anguished swallow and a flash of a tormented grimace twist the unblemished features.
The muscles in the boy's fine jaw line tightened spasmodically as he struggled with himself. "I don't know," he whispered finally.
"It's all right," said Gandalf. "It is over. You can come with us now."
The boy looked up at him in genuine astonishment.
"There is only one thing," Gandalf said. "You must tell me who sent you."
The boy averted his eyes, and Gandalf saw them slowly harden. With a hint of a head-shake, the boy took a long breath. "I cannot," he said.
Gandalf reached a hand to the slender shoulder. "Yes, you can. Whatever you have done, whatever has happened to you, it is over now. You are free to decide."
The boy's jaw tightened. "Strider is brave," he said. "He'll understand."
"What will he understand?" Gandalf asked.
"He would have died to protect his secret," the boy answered. His eyes darted to the treeline. "Tell him that I make the same choice." The boy closed his eyes, letting his chin fall to his chest.
Gandalf rose to his feet, raising his staff before him. "Halbarad!" he shouted. The Ranger jerked his head around. "Get ready!" the Wizard warned, an instant before he heard the unmistakable growl of a wolf somewhere in the trees behind him.
Aragorn was aware that somehow Halbarad and Gandalf had found him, though not much beyond that fact had penetrated his fog of nightmares and delirium. On the topics of what had happened to him, where he was, or how much time had passed, his mind was mercifully vague. Faces kept appearing in his dreams; asking him questions, questions with no sensible answers. Sometimes it was Rolly's face, sometimes Baranuir's, and sometimes Gandalf's.
There was some truth which had to be protected, a truth that in some way had to do with the questions, but at the same time did not. He groaned and struggled against the dreams.
"Easy," a voice murmured near his ear, as firm hands caught his shoulders and pressed him back down. "Take it easy, it's all right." He felt his head lifted and a cup of water pressed against his lips. Halbarad again. He obediently drank as much as he could, the last few swallows going astray as he swallowed the wrong way. Halbarad patiently held him as he choked and then wiped the excess liquid from his chin and neck before lowering him back to the ground. "That's good," he said. "Now rest."
Halbarad was still talking, though Aragorn could no longer follow the words. It was comforting to hear Halbarad's voice. A vague sense of regret, of guilt, attached to his memories of Halbarad, though he couldn't remember why. It didn't matter. He began to drift back to sleep to the reassuring sound of his kinsman's voice.
Another voice suddenly pierced his darkness. Gandalf's voice. Even semi-conscious and delusional, Aragorn knew that tone in Gandalf's voice. It meant imminent and mortal peril.
Halbarad had released his hold on him in an instant, and as Aragorn lay struggling to regain full awareness, he heard the rasp of swords being unsheathed, the guttural growls of attacking wolves. As Halbarad's running footstepts receded, he was shouting to Gandalf that the wolves were going for the horses.
Amidst the visceral sounds of metal running through flesh, the snarls and yelps of wolves, the cries and snorts of horses, and the shouts of Gandalf and Halbarad, Aragorn forced himself up onto his elbows. His head was swimming, his ears were buzzing, and dizziness prevented him from rising further than his knees. He fumbled at his waist and found his weapons gone again.
A piercing cry of pain rose from behind him, and he pivoted awkwardly on his knees to see a massive wolf tearing into Rolly.
Aragorn crawled toward it, searching himself desperately as he went for a knife, a dagger, anything that may have been overlooked when his weapons had been removed. Finding nothing, he kept moving.
His hand brushed across a decent-sized branch, and he picked it up. So intent was the wolf on rending the boy's flesh that Aragorn was able to get in one swing with the stick before it turned.
The one-handed blow was weak and the wolf turned amber eyes toward him over a muzzle that dripped with Rolly's blood.
As the wolf's shoulders tensed to lunge and it opened its mouth to bare the fangs that would tear into his throat, a small, tousle-headed figure appeared behind it. Before Aragorn could sort out where in Arda a hobbit could have come from, or what one was doing with a six-thousand-year-old Noldor dagger, seven inches of Elven steel found themselves buried to the hilt in lupine flesh.
Aragorn scrambled to Rolly as the wolf collapsed, ignoring for the moment the hobbit, who he largely suspected to be a figment of his fevered imagination, anyway.
Rolly's body was badly torn, and his left leg was nearly severed at the groin. Aragorn reached his hand into the cavity of the wound, feeling for the ripped vessel from which the boy's blood poured out onto the ground.
"Strider." Aragorn abandoned the futile effort to stop the bleeding directly and yanked his belt off instead. Tying it high up on the boy's leg and cinching it as tightly as he could with his teeth, he leaned close to the boy's face. Rolly was breathing in short, hitching gasps, his face drained of all color.
Aragorn rested his blood-soaked hand on the side of the boy's head. "Quiet," he murmured. "Just lie still."
"I told you," they boy gasped. "I told you I couldn't fail."
"Don't try to speak," Aragorn urged. The boy was shivering uncontrollably, and Aragorn shrugged off his cloak and laid it over him.
"I'm sorry, Strider."
Aragorn took the boy's hand.
"I can't fail him," the boy gasped. "He would have made me tell."
"Rolly," Aragorn whispered. "No."
The boy struggled to answer with strident breaths. His eyes started to roll back. "You didn't tell. Remember... that you didn't tell."
As Aragorn watched the gray eyes grow dim, he realized that the clamor of fighting had quieted, replaced by the sounds of familiar voices approaching. As they reached him, and their hands grasped hold of him, he let the darkness take him away.
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This article contains a download link to a list of the third-party certification authorities (CAs) that are trusted by Microsoft and whose root certificates are distributed through the Microsoft Root Certificate Program. This article contains information about different kinds of Windows update root certificates.
The root update package will update the list of root certificates on users' computers to the list that is accepted by Microsoft as part of the Windows Root Certificate Program. The file is updated periodically to add or remove root certificates or CAs from distribution by the program. You can get the root update package through the following methods:
Microsoft Download Center (Windows XP only)The update is available for download from the Microsoft Download Center:
Update for Root Certificates for Windows XP [November 2013] (KB931125)
Important: You may be prompted to pass the Microsoft Genuine Software validation process to download the package.
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Microsoft Update Catalog (all Windows versions)The root update package is made available through the Microsoft Update Catalog
(http://catalog.update.microsoft.com/v7/site/Home.aspx). There, users can search for and independently download the update package. You can search for "root certificate update" or the Microsoft Knowledge Base article, "KB931125," and then download the latest root certificate update package.
The root update package is available for the following supported versions of Windows in both x86 and x64 architectures:
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Note: Root update packages are cumulative. Therefore, you only need to install the latest package to receive all root certificates in the program.
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For more information about identifying 32-bit and 64-bit operating systems, click the following article number to view the article in the Microsoft Knowledge Base:
(http://support.microsoft.com/kb/827218/ )How to determine whether your computer is running a 32-bit version or a 64-bit version of the Windows operating system
Windows Software Update Services (WSUS)The root update package is also available for download from Windows Server Update Services (WSUS). WSUS enables information technology administrators to deploy the latest Microsoft product updates to computers that are running the Windows operating system. By using WSUS, administrators can fully manage the distribution of updates that are released through Microsoft Update to computers in their network.
For more information, click the following article number to view the article in the Microsoft Knowledge Base:
(http://support.microsoft.com/kb/919772/ )How to enable the Microsoft Windows Server Update Services (WSUS) server to distribute Windows Updates
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Windows Root Certificate Program update informationRoot CAs - Microsoft maintains a list of root certificates that are distributed by the Windows Root Certificate Program on the Program website.
To learn more about CAs who are members of the program, go to the following website:
Root Certificate Program requirements - For a list of all the current general and technical requirements of the Windows Root Certificate Program, go to the following Microsoft TechNet website:
Extended Validation Certificates (EV SSL) - For more information about the support for EV certificates in Internet Explorer 7 and later versions, go to the following website:
How Windows updates root certificatesMicrosoft has introduced new root update mechanisms in different versions of Microsoft Windows. These mechanisms have progressively focused on distributing fewer root certificates, but on making distributions as seamless as possible when a root certificate is required and is distributed through the Windows Root Certificate Program. To understand the difference in root update mechanisms, it is most convenient to break Windows versions into two categories:
Windows Vista and Windows 7Root certificates on Windows Vista and later versions are distributed through the automatic root update mechanism. That is, they are distributed through the root certificate. When a user goes to a secure website (by using HTTPS SSL), reads a secure email message (S/MIME), or downloads an ActiveX control that is signed (code signing), and then encounters a new root certificate, the Windows certificate chain verification software checks Microsoft Update for the root certificate. If the software finds the root certificate, the software downloads the current Certificate Trust List (CTL). The CTL contains the list of all trusted root certificates in the program and verifies that the root certificate is listed there. Then, it downloads the specified root certificate to the system and installs the certificate in the Windows Trusted Root Certification Authorities Store. If the root certificate is not found, the certificate chain is not completed, and the system returns an error.
To the user, a successful root update is seamless. The user does not see any security dialog boxes or warnings. The download happens automatically. In addition, for Windows Vista and later versions, client SKUs support weekly pre-fetching from Microsoft Update to check for updated root certificate properties (for example, extended validation (EV), code signing, or server authentication properties [that is, certificate properties that are added to a root certificate]).
For detailed technical information about how Windows updates root certificates in Windows Vista and in later versions, go to the following website:
Windows XPWindows XP does not fully support the automatic root update mechanism. When a root certificate is already present on a user's system, it will not be updated even if the copy of the root certificate available on Microsoft Update has changed. Windows XP also does not support the weekly pre-fetching of certificate properties from Microsoft Update feature, and the only way to install new root certificate properties on Windows XP is by installing the root update package.
We recommend that users who are running Windows XP download and install the root update package to update their root certificates. Root certificates are delivered for Windows XP through Microsoft Update as an optional root update package – an executable that contains every root certificate that is distributed by the Windows Root Certificate Program. Windows XP users can opt to download the package every time that it is updated and presented by Microsoft Update. Or, they can opt to download the root update packages automatically when they are updated. The optional root update package is updated approximately three or four times per year, or every quarter.
For additional technical information about how Windows updates root certificates in Windows XP SP2 and SP3, go to the following website:
Windows Server 2003, Windows Server 2008, and Windows Server 2008 R2The automatic root update mechanism is enabled on Windows Server 2008 and later versions, but not on Windows Server 2003. Windows Server 2003 supports the automatic root update mechanism only partly. (This is the same as the support on Windows XP.) And because the root update package is intended for Windows XP client SKUs only, it is not intended for Windows Server SKUs. However, the root update package may be downloaded and installed on Windows Server SKUs, subject to the following restrictions.
If you install the root update package on Windows Server SKUs, you may exceed the limit for how many root certificates that Schannel can handle when reporting the list of roots to clients in a TLS or SSL handshake, as the number of root certificates distributed in the root update package exceeds that limit. When you update root certificates, the list of trusted CAs grows significantly and may become too long. The list is then truncated and may cause problems with authorization. This behavior may also cause Schannel event ID 36885. In Windows Server 2003, the issuer list cannot be greater than 0x3000. For more information about this issue, click the following article number to view the article in the Microsoft Knowledge Base:
(http://support.microsoft.com/kb/933430/)Clients cannot make connections if you require client certificates on a website or if you use IAS in Windows Server 2003.
Note These limitations apply only if you have SSL client authentication enabled on Windows Server.
Root update package installation on disconnected environmentsWe recommend that systems that are running Windows client or server SKUs in disconnected environments (for example, where the automatic root update mechanism does not work because connectivity to Microsoft Update is not available) should install the root update package. The root update package will install on Windows Vista and Windows 7 as a workaround in disconnected environments. However, we do not recommend that systems that have network connectivity to Microsoft Update install the root update package, because the automatic root update mechanism will work for them.
You can use Group Policy to distribute root certificates to a group of servers in a disconnected environment. Instructions on how to install root certificates by using Group Policy are available at the following websites:
Windows Server 2003: http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc738131(WS.10).aspx
Windows Server 2008: http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc772491.aspx
Windows Vista includes a set of trusted third-party root certificates in the Crypt32.dll resource file so that these certificates can be used as a fallback when connectivity to Windows Update is not available. When auto root update is triggered, it tries to download the trusted third-party root certificate from the network. In an offline environment, network retrieval fails, and CAPI checks the resources in Crypt32.dll for the root certificate. If the root is present, it is used and installed in the root store. Windows 7 has similar behavior.
If auto root update is disabled, no attempt to retrieve the root is made. Therefore, the roots are not installed. Be aware that the resources in Crypt32.dll include only those certificates that were present in the root program at a time before the OS release. Any root certificates that were added later are not present in the resource, and such certificates are available only through the root-update package.
Synchronize the Trusted Root Certificate Trust ListA supported Fix it solution is now available from Microsoft to force the system to re-sync the Trusted Root Certificate Trust List (CTL).
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To re-sync the Trusted Root CTL, click the Fix it button or link. Then, click Run in the File Download dialog box, and follow the steps in the Fix it wizard.
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Note This Fix it deletes the Certificates folder and everything inside it, and it also deletes the LastSyncTime registry key. These are safe things to do on your computer, as they are for a cache that builds as you browse or need these certificates.
The third-party products that this article discusses are manufactured by companies that are independent of Microsoft. Microsoft makes no warranty, implied or otherwise, about the performance or reliability of these products.
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George Jallo, MD
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- Clinical Director, Pediatric Neurosurgery
- Professor of Neurological Surgery
- Professor of Oncology
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- Comprehensive Brain Tumor Center
- Epilepsy Center
- Neurosurgical Spine Center
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Achondroplasia, Arachnoid Cysts, Brachial Plexus Injuries, Brain Cancer, Brain Stem Tumors, Cerebral Palsy, Chiari Malformations, Craniosynostosis, Endoscopy, Epilepsy Surgery, Hydrocephalus, Neurosurgery, Pediatric Brachial Plexus, Pediatric Brain Cancer, Pediatric Brain Tumors, Pediatric Neurosurgery, Pediatric Spinal Cord Injury, Pediatric Spinal Cord Tumors, Pediatric Spinal Deformity, Pituitary Tumors, Spinal Cord Tumors, Spinal Dysraphism, Spine Tumors
BiographyDr. George Jallo focuses on the surgical treatment of neurological diseases and disorders in children, with emphasis on minimally invasive endoscopic procedures. Dr. Jallo is particularly expert in treating intradural spinal tumors, brainstem and eloquent brain tumors in both children and adults.
Dr. Jallo also has expertise based on his extensive clinical experience in intraoperative neurophysiological monitoring. His other clinical interests are epilepsy, craniofacial and defects of the neural tube.
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- University of Virginia School of Medicine (Charlottesville VA ) (1991)
- New York University Medical Center / Surgery (New York NY ) (1998)
- Beth Israel Medical Center - North Division / Pediatric Neurosurgery (New York NY ) (1999)
- Neurological Surgery, American Board of Neurological Surgery (2013)
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Selected Publications View all on PubMed170. Mehta VA, Wijesekera O, Pendleton C, Quinones-Hinojosa A, Jallo GI, Ahn ES. Harvey Cushing and Birth Hemorrhage: Early Pediatric Neurosurgery at The Johns Hopkins Hospital. J Neurosurg Pediatr 8:647-653, 2011.
171. Mehta VA, Kretzer RM, Orr B, Jallo GI. Primary Intramedullary Spinal Germ Cell Tumors. World Neurosurg 76:478.e1-6, 2011.
172. Recinos PF, Rahmathulla G, Pearl M, Renard Recinos V, Jallo GI, Gailloud P, Ahn ES. Vein of Galen Malformations: Epidemiology, Clinical Presentations, Management. Neurosurg Clin N Am 23:165-177, 2012.
173. Tyler BM, Hdeib A, Caplan J, Legnani FG, Fowers KD, Brem H, Jallo G, Pradilla G. Delayed Onset of Paresis in Rats with Experimental Intramedullary Spinal Cord Gliosarcoma Following Intratumoral Administration of the Paclitaxel Delivery System OncoGel. J Neurosurg Spine 16:93-101, 2012.
174. Molina C, Sciubba DM, Chaput C, Tortolani PJ, Jallo GI, Kretzer RM. A Computed Tomography-Based Feasibility Study of Translaminar Screw Placement in the Pediatric Thoracic Spine. J Neurosurg Pediatr 9:27-34, 2012.
175. Hsu W, Siu I-M, Pradilla G, Richman J, Flerage T, Gokaslan ZL, Jallo GI, Gallia GL. Animal Model of Intramedullary Spinal Cord Glioma Using Human Glioblastoma Multiforme Neurospheres. J Neurosurg Pediatrics 16:27-34, 2012.
176. Novak K, Widhalm G, de Camargo AB, Perin N, Jallo G, Knosp E, Deletis V. The Value of Intraoperative Motor Evoked Potentials Monitoring during Surgical Intervention for Thoracic Idiopathic Spinal Cord Herniation. J Neurosurg Spine 16:114-126, 2012.
177. Goodwin CR, Recinos PF, Jallo GI. Pediatric Spine Trauma. Neurosurg Q 22:73-80, 2012.
178. Ononiwu C, Mehta V, Bettegowda C, Jallo G. Pediatric Spinal Glioblastoma Multiforme: Current Treatment Strategies and Possible Predictors of Survival. Childs Nerv Syst 28:715-720, 2012.
179. Adams H, Avendano J, Raza SM, Gokaslan ZL, Jallo GI, Quinones-Hinojosa A. Prognostic Factors and Survival in Primary Malignant Astrocytomas of the Spinal Cord: A Population-Based Analysis from 1973-2007. Spine 37:E727-735, 2012.
180. Yoshimura J, Siu IM, Thomale UW, Jallo GI. The Effects of Temozolomide Delivered by Prolonged Intracerebral Microinfusion against the Rat Brainstem GBM Allograft Model. Childs Nerv Syst 28:707-713, 2012.
181. Kretzer RM, Hsu W, Hu N, Umekoji H, Jallo GI, McAfee PC, Tortolani PJ, Cunningham BW. Adjacent-Level Range of Motion and Intradiscal Pressure Following Posterior Cervical Decompression and Fixation: An In Vitro Human Cadaveric Model. Spine 37:E778-785, 2012.
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182. Pendleton C, Jallo GI, Quinones-Hinojosa A. Early Multimodality Treatment of Intracranial Abscesses. World Neurosurg in press.
183. Woodworth GF, See A, Bettegowda C, Batra S, Jallo GI, Rigamonte D. Predictors of Surgery-Free Outcome in Adult Endoscopic Third Ventriculostomy World Neurosurg in press.
184. Pearl MS, Chen JX, Gregg L, San Millan D, Belzberg A, Jallo G, Gailloud P. Angiographic Detection and Characterization of Cryptic Venous Anomales Associated with Spinal Cord Cavernous Malformations Using Flat Panel Catheter Angiotomography (FPCA). Neurosurgery 71:ons125-ons132, 2012.
185. Jain A, Amin AG, Jain P, Burger P, Jallo GI, Lim M, Bettegowda C. Subependymoma: Clinical Features and Surgical Outcomes. Neurol Res 34:677-684. 2012.
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Meet our Experts: Dr. George Jallo
Dr. George Jallo, director of pediatric neurosurgery, focuses on treating children with intradural spinal tumors, brainstem, as well as eloquent brain tumors in both children and adults
Patient Video: Pediatric Spinal Cord Tumor: Steven's Story
Teenager Steven was diagnosed with a tumor in his spinal cord. He and his mother share their story, along with his doctor Johns Hopkins pediatric neurosurgeon, Dr. George Jallo.
Patient Video: Pediatric Spinal Tumor - Adam Ali's Story
At only 10 years old, Adam had gone through more surgeries than many adults ever will. His father scoured the Internet for better optionsa surgery that wouldn't just eradicate Adam's spinal tumor, but held the greatest promise for full recovery. In Johns Hopkins spinal surgeon George Jallo, Mr. Ali found that promise, combined with the expertise to back it up. The family journeyed all the way from Malaysia to have Adam's tumor removed. Merely three weeks after Dr. Jallo operated on him, Adam returned home on his own two feet. Adam, his father, and Dr. Jallo share the story of his journey halfway around the world and back to childhood as it should be.
Patient Video: Matthew's Rare Brain Tumor
Matthew Henry has been through a lot in his three years of life. He's had biopsy surgery in a part of his brain most surgeons won't touch, and he's living with an extremely rare brain tumor. But three generations of women in the family are making every day special for this loving little boy.
Video Links
- Recorded online seminar: The Great Imitator - Discussion on Chiari Malformations
- Podcast: Pediatric Brain Tumors
Recent News Articles & Media Coverage
A Team Approach for Pediatric Brainstem Tumors, Pediatric Neuro News, Winter 2015
After a Spinal Tumor, Getting Back into the Game, Pediatric Neuro News, Fall 2013
From the operating room to the classroom, one Catonsville student is beating the odds, Baltimore Sun (04/24/2013)
Neurosurgeon shares inside view on pediatric spinal surgery, Angie''s List (01/30/2013)
For pediatric brainstem tumors, operable is possible, NeuroLogic (Winter 2012)
Inside the Brainstem, Pediatric Neuro News (Winter 2012)
When Rasmussen's Strikes, Pediatric Neuro News (Winter 2012)
Survivor Spotlight – Dr. George Jallo, Spinal Cord Tumor Association (10/11/2012)
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LocationsThe Johns Hopkins Hospital600 N. Wolfe StreetPhipps556Baltimore, MD 21287Phone: 410-955-7851Appointment Phone: 410-955-7851Fax: 410-955-7862Location MapJohns Hopkins Outpatient Center601 N. Caroline StreetBaltimore, MD 21287Appointment Phone: 410-955-6406Location Map
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ROCHESTER — The Rochester Opera House Board of Directors is pleased to announce the award of a $20,000 grant for operations support for the 2012/2013 season from the Charles & Aroline B. Greenfield Fund and the Kevin S. Burbank Fund of the New Hampshire Charitable Foundation. The Rochester Opera House has been chosen for three consecutive years as an NHCF grant recipient of this competitive and prestigious award. According to NHCF Senior Program Officer Celina Adams, "The regional advisory board of the Piscataqua region approved this grant to the Rochester Opera House in acknowledgment of the good work the volunteers and staff of the organization have done over the past few years to stabilize and strengthen this important community resource. We recognize the value of art and cultural institutions to the health, well being, and economic vitality of our communities."
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November 16th, 2011, 05:58 PM #1
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Young Adult Novels Besting Adult Novels?Young adult novels heating up the charts
Publishers, stores embracing trend
Recently my Barnes & Noble bookstore moved the sci-fi/fantasy section back and the YA section forward. I've noticed that the selection of teen books seems to be getting larger and more of them are in hardbacks. And I'm beginning to see more writers of popular adult fiction putting out YA fiction.
YA books have been bare of what I think of as "real" SF - stories where advanced tech and science are important parts of the stories. Most teen SF is post-apocalyptic or steam punk - apparently teens are not smart enough to handle the hard stuff!
The one shining counter-example, to my mind, is David Weber's A Beautiful Friendship. It was placed on the Teen's New & Exciting table when it first came out, and is now in the New Teen part of B&N's YA shelves. It is billed as "A stellar introduction to a new YA science-fiction series." and subtitled "A Star Kingdom Novel" on its cover.
It makes me wonder if the next Shapechanger title I plan to put up on Amazon should be classified as YA. Which it is for the first third or half of my book, until my heroine gets into her late teens and early twenties. Here is how I bill it on my Web site.
Until she died, 17-year-old Sasha Canaro was bound for the Olympics. Recovering from death, she finds she is an immortal shapechanger, faster and many times stronger than an ordinary human.
Competition in the Olympics would now be no competition. The goal she had aimed for since she was five would be boringly easy. What goal can she replace it with? Fighting crime, perhaps? There is plenty of it.
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November 16th, 2011, 07:43 PM #2
I can't read the Globe article, due to asking me to give them money and subscribe (not going to happen), but from what I can tell about the markets, it comes down to a combo platter of issues.
First, a lot of young readers don't get science, at least partially courtesy of the U.S. education system being in the toilet. So to use science and technology, you have to explain it in the book. This is very difficult to do well, because you can't get too long-winded on the subject (and thus wander away from the actual plot) without boring a lot of readers.
Secondly, Harry Potter has ended. An entire generation has grown up with those books, and it makes sense they look for more of the same. Since the Potterverse doesn't run on very strongly defined rules for the setting (particularly the magic), the generation that grew up reading it isn't looking for that, and in fact may be turned off by worlds that run with a stronger logical element. Add that to the fact that many new writers also grew up thinking these books were good, and copying how Rowling handled world-building...
Third, it's easier to write YA novels. Because the protagonists are young, it's easy to hand wave them as not knowing much about the setting they are written in. This allows for easier handling of exposition. Sure, it's really formulaic, but it works, so we see lots of it.
As for me, I don't go way out of my way to include YA themes, or market my book as such. I can see it being read that way though. I'll just write the best stories I can, and if they appeal to the YA market, they appeal.
November 16th, 2011, 10:09 PM #3
They're about ten years behind the times. This article would have made more sense in 2002. Also, any article that thinks YA markets and adult markets are in competition with each other doesn't understand those markets.
On YA SF, it's only post-apocalypse and steampunk now because that's what authors are browsing into and teen readers are browsing out towards. They worked through most kinds of fantasy -- all of which is still in place -- and are working their way through types of SF. We're already seeing more space adventure YA SF coming out and there will be more alien contact stuff. Really hard SF is harder to do with teen protagonists, but expect a fair amount of cyberpunk thrillers. Robots are percolating everywhere. This is normal ripples. This is why SF was not dying in the first place. The Hunger Games movies are going to give it a rocket boost because it will bring in new readers, some adults, mostly teens.
November 17th, 2011, 01:34 AM #4
I don't know if it's any indication of what teenagers are actually buying, but even though the YA area at the biggest library near me is a fraction of the size of the adult and children's fiction sections, all the series books look like they've been read to rags. The number of new books that come in seem to equal the number they buy for adults and considerably more than the books they buy for children. So I'm guessing that the reason the area is smaller is because more of the books stay in circulation.
It seems to me that more teenagers are avid readers than was the case when I was growing up. They may be mostly girls reading Twilight clones, but they are reading. Kids read books and talk about them and pass them around. Openly. Only the odd ones with no social skills did that in the early and mid- 1960's. (At least in the places where I lived.) Not until LOTR had its big burst of popularity near the end of the decade did that begin to change.
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It's a common attitude that YA is an inferior genre. I suspect it suffers from the same kind of syllogism SF suffers from.
If it's science fiction, it can't be good.
If it's good, it can't be science fiction.
I've been a fan of YA for well over a dozen years. Some of it is still about young girls crushing on boys or being picked on by mean girls. But during that time I've seen an increasing number of very serious issues addressed, including the following.
- rape - by parent, teacher, coach, date
- school murder and violence
- suicide
- racism
- self-mutilation
- emotional abuse
- pregnancy
- drug addiction
Not only is the substance of YA fiction often MORE ADULT than much adult fiction, the style of it is as well. Writing YA does not mean you can pay less attention to craft. It may even demand that you give your YA books more care.
November 17th, 2011, 04:58 PM #6
I don't know if anyone read my review of A Beautiful Friendship, but if I'm brutally honest I feel it was mislabelled. Yes, it had YA themes, but it was stuck between being a teen book and a Weber-esque technoporn (to use Modesitt's term) affair. YA is often seen as being between maybe 11 and 16, right? Maybe 11-18, I forget the figures, but going by the science curriculum of this country, Weber talked about things that aren't covered in schools until sixteen, perhaps later. To me, that goes against what YA is. To contrast, I've also read the whole of Scott Westerfeld's teen/YA dieselpunk Leviathan series, and found the science in it basic but it worked.
You don't need technoporn to make a "hard sci-fi" book work, and the chances are you're going to confuse or bore one reader whilst getting another rather hot under the collar with the descriptions and explanations. In adult fiction I think it's fine to a degree, but in YA? No, it kills the pacing and can be very confusing.
I think in some aspects, YA actually suffers for what it is. You can easily round up a group of adults who equate YA with children's books, and as such won't read anything YA. My mum is one, which makes me giggle because she'll read The Hobbit but not Philippa Gregory's upcoming YA historical series. Ahem. I digress.
I agree with your last post about YA arguably being more adult than adult fiction itself, but in another way it's just a label. How many books have been rebranded as adult fiction or vice versa? Harry Potter and His Dark Materials had "adult" editions published, whereas Chris Wooding's books have recently had YA editions announced. How many books have been split for "YA" audiences? I know Robert Jordan's first two(?) Wheel of Time books were, and I have a feeling that's part of the reason why Feist's Magician is split in the US.
The thing with "adult" authors writing YA/teen isn't new, though. Terry Brooks is a great example, as is Sir Pratchett. Both have a main adult series, but they have written a series and/or books for a younger audience too. It's perhaps not as common in genre fiction, but I would hazard a guess that it's not uncommon in other parts of the market.
Sorry if I'm not making much sense. It's past my bed time
November 17th, 2011, 06:58 PM #7
Feist's Magician was split into two parts when it first came out in the US. I remember seeing Feist on a panel talking about that very subject not long after the books came out.
November 17th, 2011, 10:58 PM #8
A Beautiful Friendship isn't a YA book. Baen does not have a YA list, though they have a teen rec list and have put all of Weber's books on it for some reason. Places that review YA works will also review something like A Beautiful Friendship because it has a teen protagonist, so they'll review whether they think it works for teens. But it's in the adult section of my bookstore. A lot of people call any book with a teen YA, but it's actually very specific marketing.
The deal is that the media is mainly only interested in Hollywood, not books. So the only reason they are doing an article on YA books "heating up" now -- which again, occurred fifteen years ago -- is because a number of YA properties have been turned into film or t.v. shows in the last five years. This started being more significant back ten years ago, but with the Twilight movies ending and The Hunger Games movies poised to launch, they can point to that and say, see, YA's really hot right now, because they just noticed that there were these films based on books.
The books are sold different ways with different factors, but the article can pretend that they are not and that they compete with each other (in actuality they feed each other,) and since YA numbers have gone slightly up and adult fiction went up and then somewhat down, they can declare YA to have "beaten" adult, but in terms of number of titles, there really is no comparison. The YA market is actually slowing down now with not as much growth and YA authors finding it a bit harder, though YA SF is having a nice expansion because of browsing. But it's not really a problem, and the expansion of YA is now allowing a further expansion of middle school fiction (9-13 years roughly.)
In YA, you can expect growth in gay-theme subject matter, SF, mysteries, adventure stories, and historicals and historical fantasy. The YA comedies are doing well right now and that will probably continue.
November 18th, 2011, 03:07 AM #9
Even on the back it's claimed to be YA through one of the quotes they chose (which is repeated on the front), so it's marketed in some ways as young adult. I've seen some YA books appear in the adult section of my bookstore, too (Gaiman, Cashore, Charlton, arguably Sanderson). It's even on their YA reading list, although you're right about the rest of his books being on there. The Amazon US page has it in the Teens section, too.
So have we now hit a point in the discussion where we need to clarify what YA is?
November 18th, 2011, 06:26 AM #10
Lots of YA books are read by adults, and lot's of kids at the top echelon (14-18 year olds) read adult books. I think it really boils down to how entertaining YA is. It's fast moving typically, with less sex, but not necessarily less violence.
I think YA is written for a wider range of intelligence levels, and as popular culture takes over modern day life, the entertainment value of society becomes more action based. Look at big budget movies: Avatar, etc,.
YA is exciting- most of the time. It's beginning to appeal to a wider range of people, because it doesn't take a genius to understand it.
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November 18th, 2011, 07:47 AM #11
I think I should clarify. I know what YA is, but I meant in terms of this discussion. Are we counting titles that are YA but aren't marketed as such (I believe Mistborn has often been called YA, as an example), are we counting titles only marketed by the publisher to the booksellers as YA, are we counting titles that class themselves as YA but aren't marketed as such? I think a little clarification is needed.
November 18th, 2011, 11:47 AM #12
My definition of YA has always been books that feature young characters and the themes, issues, concerns, etc. that are most important (and therefore more interesting) at that time in our lives. I realize this puts a book like "The Catcher in the Rye" into the category of YA, but that was written in another century and besides the wench ... I mean, although that's a book that will probably never be classified as YA, because of the author's reputation, I think it is YA even by the narrowest definition.
For instance, adults may enjoy a book that is about the same issues, but they are going to resonate most for those who are facing them at that particular moment. And though there may come a point where an adult reader may have had their fill of so many "coming of age and finding your place in the world" stories for young people who are encountering such stories for the first time, the ideas are still fresh.
Of course such themes may be told in many different ways, in many different settings, and there is no bar on the writers imagination, but still those issues are at the heart of the story.
These days, which of those issues may be addressed is broadening. "My mother is an alcoholic and her boyfriend molested me" would have been regarded as adult fiction a few decades ago, but now kids are sophisticated enough to handle it, and it's certainly relevant.
November 18th, 2011, 01:36 PM #13
YA is hard to classify
My own Spirit Thorn was definitely written as YA. I wrote a very different first version of it 20 years ago, then did nothing with it. With the maturing of e-Publishing, I updated the book via a year-long rewrite, then put it out there. It was very slow in catching on, but eventually that happened.
Still, I don't know exactly who the readers are. Those who have posted reviews or have shown up on Shelfari or Good Reads have tended to be twenty-somethings and thirty-somethings -- even though the book has been very clearly marketed as YA. But as I said, it's hard to know who the majority of the actual readers (as opposed to reviewers) are... because perhaps twelve-year-olds are unlikely to review a book or to post their mugshots on Shelfari. Likewise, it would appear that I've drawn about 80% female... but maybe guys are less likely to join online literary communities or to write reviews.
It would be useful, in future work, to be able target my reading audience, but so far I don't know how to do that.
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I've seen Dave's book put in the teen section in two B&N's and in the adult SF section in a large independent bookstore and a large college bookstore (which has no teen section). The stores place books where they think the books will make the most sales, and they have limited shelf space. So they are often forced to an either/or choice.
Amazon and B&N Online are not forced to make such a decision, and I see teen SF books placed in both teen and adult "sections." Ditto fantasy and SF. In fact, when I did my magic engineer investigation Amazon places the exact same books, regardless of their conceptual classification, in both fantasy and SF sections!
Physical bookstores consider name recognition among other factors when they make their either/or decision. Heinlein's juveniles, clearly teen books, instead go in the SF section. I have no such name recognition, so I see no downside to classifying THE SUPER OLYMPIAN as YA when I put it up on Amazon and B&N in a week or two. It will be at least a year, if ever, before my books will go into bookstores.
And Amazon uses several ways to direct readers to other books by any author, including a link to their Author Pages. Which I have now! There's a photo and a brief bio on mine, plus a list of books by me. (Which I will be adding to soon.)
The article does not say what Kat has pointed out any number of times: YA readers boost adult sales because they grow up and want more sophisticated books. Or at least MORE books.
November 18th, 2011, 11:48 PM #15
You're talking about two different things: books that young people may enjoy with young protagonists (and thus may be reviewed by reviewers in that capacity and put on reading lists for teens, etc.,) and YA. YA is a market, just as adult fiction is a market. YA titles are marketed very specifically. They feature a protagonist in the 11-22 year old age range. They are usually, the majority, put out by YA imprints and publishers and are sold chiefly or solely in the YA/children's sections (not counting front store and special displays.) They are marketed directly to schools and teachers and school libraries, and authors will do events at schools and public libraries for young people specifically. There are specific media outlets, review channels, etc. YA and children's books have to have a reading age range printed on them, so that teachers have a reference guide. (For YA, it's 12 and up, though they often just use the word "teen.")
So you can recommend to a teen any book you like and feel that it is appropriate for them, but YA itself is a marketing category that operates independently from the adult markets. Many authors write both YA and/or children's fiction and adult titles so there are connections and sometimes cross marketing, but their YA books are overall marketed quite differently from their adult titles. Bestsellers like Heinlein, Gaiman and Martin are in the bestseller market category, which means they'll be marketed all over the store but their teen works will be spearheaded in the teen section and they will market those titles very specifically.
Publishers like Tor will have special lines for YA fiction, even though most of their list is adult. Or they may take a title and market it through YA channels even if they don't have a special line. For some titles, changing countries means a change in being sold as adult or YA because the YA publisher may be who buys the title for that territory. But if a book is sold as YA in principal markets, then usually it is seen as part of the YA market globally.
So Cinda Williams Chima is an American author who is published in the U.S. by Hyperion Books for Children for the YA market. Harper Voyager -- which is part of HarperCollins which has extensive childrens imprints and is able to cross market, bought the British rights. They are marketing it as an adult title through Voyager, but they'll cross market with YA and use the YA marketing channels since she is principally marketed as a YA author. Likewise Kristin Cashore is an American author whose books are sold by Firebird, a children's publisher, and sold in YA. British rights were bought by Orion, which has a number of children's imprints but it was bought by Gollancz, so cross marketed YA and adult. Same with Artemis Fowl, etc.
Weber's author site is listing A Beautiful Friendship as YA, so I was indeed mistaken about what they were doing. Baen is marketing the book as YA, including having a teacher's guide. However, it will also be heavily cross marketed for Weber's audience and so don't be surprised if you see it sometimes with his other books in adult. But the idea is that Weber is spinning off a YA series from his Honor Harrington series. This is not uncommon -- Terry Pratchett, etc. will do a teen directed spin off. Australian comic SF writer Simon Haynes, for example, just launched a teen spin off from his adult Hal Spacejock series.
These things are not rigid, but if you're doing YA, then you are marketing to schools and you are trying to have the book in the teen section of the bookstores which is where the term Young Adult comes from. It's not really about the sensibilities of the story or whether adults read them too or not. It's just how the book with a teen protagonist is marketed. (Which is why the sneering about YA fiction is kind of pointless.)
The article is talking about YA marketed as YA -- titles for teens that are getting attention and movie deals -- The Hunger Games, Twilight, Percy Jackson and the Olympians, etc. and when they talk about expansion, they're talking about the YA sections getting larger. They are not talking about adults reading books with teen protagonists because adults have always read books with teen protagonists. What happened was that YA used to be an anemic, small category in children's and then the gold rush of 1990's teen fiction, chiefly Harry Potter, caused a rush of new readers and a rapid expansion of the category and the middle school category and more attention for authors there. So there's more teen fiction, a lot of it is cross-media enough to attract adult attention and the last two big phenoms -- J.K. Rowling and Stephanie Meyers -- have been YA authors, which also attracts adult attention. They are still books marketed for teens.


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March 3rd, 2011, 11:48 AM #1
Damn it, when will Martin finish TWoW?
Haha, just kiddin'.
Martin's off the hook for at least 2 years.
He's still my bitch though.
March 3rd, 2011, 12:02 PM #2
LOL, you beat me to it! I was just about to start a similar thread.
I can't wait for The Winds of Winter!!!!!
March 3rd, 2011, 12:50 PM #3
Do you think he might be able to get it done for this time next year??
I certainly hope so! and I'll be pretty peeved if he doesn't, let me tell you.
March 3rd, 2011, 01:05 PM #4
It will be done much faster that ADWD. UNLESS the show tanks...then expect another 10year wait.
March 3rd, 2011, 01:57 PM #5
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hehe. Well, part of the reason ADWD took so long was the whole "Meereenese knot" shindig. Hopefully he managed to solve that enough in ADWD so that TWoW won't be so grueling for him to write.
March 3rd, 2011, 02:48 PM #6
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There's no reason to think that TWoW will be faster, unless you're just trying to delude yourself into optimism. GRRM has clearly lost his momentum and that is not an easy thing to get back. Also remember that a good portion of ADwD was finished by the time AFfC came out.
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March 3rd, 2011, 03:00 PM #8
Don't think that the TV series and him finishing the book now are coincidences. As I've said a million times, the TV series is what will get him to finish this book series. If it doesn't get canceled, the books will be finished before the series airs that season. 3years a piece sounds about right. If we are all here in 3-6years, I will say I told ya so! =)
March 3rd, 2011, 03:45 PM #9
I'm thinking 2015, and will be able to pick it up from my bookshop on my flying skateboard.
March 3rd, 2011, 03:49 PM #10
Yeah, ADWD is the last book in the series, we must get used to that fact. But let's enjoy it anyway!!
March 3rd, 2011, 04:10 PM #11
Why has everyone lost so much faith in GRRM, it's not like he did anythi...oerrr never mind.
March 3rd, 2011, 04:16 PM #12
Any predictions for how long this thread will go, before TWOW is released? I'm guessing 1,000 pages.
March 3rd, 2011, 05:52 PM #13
No way. It will get locked and reborn so many times but no specific thread will make it to 1K.
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I'm treating any additional books that actually get released in this series as kind of a nice surprise. If it happens, great. If not, I won't be surprised. Slightly disappointed, perhaps, but not upset.
I wonder when he'll start receiving the hate-mail for TWoW, though. No matter how quickly he finishes it, it's going to happen. Some people get way too emotionally invested in this stuff.
March 4th, 2011, 12:07 PM #15
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Having seed that, hopefully it was just the knot that was slowing him down and hopefully he is past that and is now on a roll.