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August 4th, 2002, 02:26 PM #1
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Just finished dune ,but what to read next ?
Just finished the last book : dune 6 (well hopefully not the very last , but for now) , greath books ,all of em , the ending is not very good, it leaves to many questions open , but i gues that will clear up when they bring dune 7 out =)
It was my first sience fiction book and i like to read more , but i dont know where to look , sooo
... my question is what is a good book for some1 that like dune alot dune ?
(sience fiction ofcourse)
Greetz , EL =)
August 5th, 2002, 02:30 PM #2
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Try another Frank Herbert book - The Santagora Barrier. Its a quite similar to Dune in that it deals another addictive substance like spice.
It is the best of Herbert's non Dune books.
Or see if can find the National Lampoon's parody of Dune - Doon. It is very funny.
August 6th, 2002, 08:44 AM #3RocketsheepGuest
Colony by Rob Grant... exact opposite of Dune... may as well learn the broad range of SF straight off.
August 7th, 2002, 12:54 PM #4
You might like The Dosadi Experiment and The Whipping Star by Herbert - these are great books (almost everything by Herbert is very good. There are some exceptions, of course. The ominous The Eyes of Heisenberg for example).
Since you think that the Dune Chronicles is a great sequence, you can try with David Zindell's Neverness novels or Simmons' Hyperion Cantos.
Try something by Robert Silverberg also. He has written many lovely novels - Dying Inside, The Face of the Waters, At Winter's End, Tom O'Bedlam, the Majipoor novels, The World Inside, Nightwings... I can go on forever. He's truly amazing.
August 7th, 2002, 03:10 PM #5
Personally i would recommend steering well clear of Zindell. i found his work VERY poor. Just me of course, but i have very rarely been so disappointed by a book as i was by his.


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Sounds cool Michael, excited to see the result.
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While there isn't yet a release yet of Ubuntu in the Linux x32 ABI flavor, some packages now found in Ubuntu 13.04 make it easier to setup this binary interface that brings some 64-bit advantages to the 32-bit world...
Sounds cool Michael, excited to see the result.
No, that's the other way round. It brings some 32-bit advantages to the 64-bit world, if you want to use such a construct.binary interface that brings some 64-bit advantages to the 32-bit world.
if programs are compiled as x32, which libraries will they link to? x86 libraries, or x64 libraries?
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19-4091.00 - Environmental Science and Protection Technicians, Including Health
Perform laboratory and field tests to monitor the environment and investigate sources of pollution, including those that affect health, under the direction of an environmental scientist, engineer, or other specialist. May collect samples of gases, soil, water, and other materials for testing.
Sample of reported job titles: Environmental Health Specialist, Environmental Specialist, Environmental Technician, Industrial Pretreatment Program Specialist (IPP Specialist), Laboratory Specialist, Laboratory Technician, Process Laboratory Specialist, Public Health Sanitarian, Sanitarian, Sanitarian Specialist
Tasks | Tools & Technology | Knowledge | Skills | Abilities | Work Activities | Work Context | Job Zone | Education | Credentials | Interests | Work Styles | Work Values | Related Occupations | Wages & Employment | Job Openings | Additional Information
- Collect samples of gases, soils, water, industrial wastewater, or asbestos products to conduct tests on pollutant levels or identify sources of pollution.
- Record test data and prepare reports, summaries, or charts that interpret test results.
- Develop or implement programs for monitoring of environmental pollution or radiation.
- Discuss test results and analyses with customers.
- Set up equipment or stations to monitor and collect pollutants from sites, such as smoke stacks, manufacturing plants, or mechanical equipment.
- Maintain files, such as hazardous waste databases, chemical usage data, personnel exposure information, or diagrams showing equipment locations.
- Develop testing procedures or direct activities of workers in laboratory.
- Prepare samples or photomicrographs for testing and analysis.
- Calibrate microscopes or test instruments.
- Examine and analyze material for presence and concentration of contaminants, such as asbestos, using variety of microscopes.
Tools & Technology
Tools used in this occupation:
|Air samplers or collectors — Air sampling impingers; Bioaerosol impactors; Indoor air quality IAQ monitors; Particulate samplers
|Flowmeters — Electronic pump calibrators; Flow monitoring equipment; Pilot tubes; Pump flowmeters
|Sampling pumps — Centrifugal water sampling pumps; Low-flow pumps; Purge pumps; Water sample extraction pumps
|Sound measuring apparatus or decibel meter — Noise dosimeters; Noise logging analyzers; Noise monitoring instruments; Sound level meters
|Water samplers — Lead water sampling kits; Water sample extraction tubes; Water sampling augers; Water sampling pumps
Technology used in this occupation:
|Analytical or scientific software — FishXing software; Flood modeling software; HEC RAS *; Visual OTTHYMO
|Computer aided design CAD software — Autodesk AutoCAD software; Autodesk Softdesk
|Electronic mail software — Email software; Microsoft Outlook
|Map creation software — ESRI ArcInfo; ESRI ArcView; Geomechanical design analysis GDA software; Trimble GPS software
|Spreadsheet software — Microsoft Excel
* Software developed by a government agency and/or distributed as freeware or shareware.
|Chemistry — Knowledge of the chemical composition, structure, and properties of substances and of the chemical processes and transformations that they undergo. This includes uses of chemicals and their interactions, danger signs, production techniques, and disposal methods.
|Computers and Electronics — Knowledge of circuit boards, processors, chips, electronic equipment, and computer hardware and software, including applications and programming.
|Public Safety and Security — Knowledge of relevant equipment, policies, procedures, and strategies to promote effective local, state, or national security operations for the protection of people, data, property, and institutions.
|Customer and Personal Service — Knowledge of principles and processes for providing customer and personal services. This includes customer needs assessment, meeting quality standards for services, and evaluation of customer satisfaction.
|English Language — Knowledge of the structure and content of the English language including the meaning and spelling of words, rules of composition, and grammar.
|Mathematics — Knowledge of arithmetic, algebra, geometry, calculus, statistics, and their applications.
|Engineering and Technology — Knowledge of the practical application of engineering science and technology. This includes applying principles, techniques, procedures, and equipment to the design and production of various goods and services.
|Law and Government — Knowledge of laws, legal codes, court procedures, precedents, government regulations, executive orders, agency rules, and the democratic political process.
|Biology — Knowledge of plant and animal organisms, their tissues, cells, functions, interdependencies, and interactions with each other and the environment.
|Physics — Knowledge and prediction of physical principles, laws, their interrelationships, and applications to understanding fluid, material, and atmospheric dynamics, and mechanical, electrical, atomic and sub- atomic structures and processes.
|Reading Comprehension — Understanding written sentences and paragraphs in work related documents.
|Active Listening — Giving full attention to what other people are saying, taking time to understand the points being made, asking questions as appropriate, and not interrupting at inappropriate times.
|Critical Thinking — Using logic and reasoning to identify the strengths and weaknesses of alternative solutions, conclusions or approaches to problems.
|Speaking — Talking to others to convey information effectively.
|Writing — Communicating effectively in writing as appropriate for the needs of the audience.
|Science — Using scientific rules and methods to solve problems.
|Judgment and Decision Making — Considering the relative costs and benefits of potential actions to choose the most appropriate one.
|Monitoring — Monitoring/Assessing performance of yourself, other individuals, or organizations to make improvements or take corrective action.
|Time Management — Managing one's own time and the time of others.
|Complex Problem Solving — Identifying complex problems and reviewing related information to develop and evaluate options and implement solutions.
|Written Comprehension — The ability to read and understand information and ideas presented in writing.
|Oral Comprehension — The ability to listen to and understand information and ideas presented through spoken words and sentences.
|Oral Expression — The ability to communicate information and ideas in speaking so others will understand.
|Written Expression — The ability to communicate information and ideas in writing so others will understand.
|Near Vision — The ability to see details at close range (within a few feet of the observer).
|Problem Sensitivity — The ability to tell when something is wrong or is likely to go wrong. It does not involve solving the problem, only recognizing there is a problem.
|Deductive Reasoning — The ability to apply general rules to specific problems to produce answers that make sense.
|Inductive Reasoning — The ability to combine pieces of information to form general rules or conclusions (includes finding a relationship among seemingly unrelated events).
|Information Ordering — The ability to arrange things or actions in a certain order or pattern according to a specific rule or set of rules (e.g., patterns of numbers, letters, words, pictures, mathematical operations).
|Speech Clarity — The ability to speak clearly so others can understand you.
Work Activities
|Documenting/Recording Information — Entering, transcribing, recording, storing, or maintaining information in written or electronic/magnetic form.
|Evaluating Information to Determine Compliance with Standards — Using relevant information and individual judgment to determine whether events or processes comply with laws, regulations, or standards.
|Processing Information — Compiling, coding, categorizing, calculating, tabulating, auditing, or verifying information or data.
|Getting Information — Observing, receiving, and otherwise obtaining information from all relevant sources.
|Monitor Processes, Materials, or Surroundings — Monitoring and reviewing information from materials, events, or the environment, to detect or assess problems.
|Making Decisions and Solving Problems — Analyzing information and evaluating results to choose the best solution and solve problems.
|Updating and Using Relevant Knowledge — Keeping up-to-date technically and applying new knowledge to your job.
|Inspecting Equipment, Structures, or Material — Inspecting equipment, structures, or materials to identify the cause of errors or other problems or defects.
|Analyzing Data or Information — Identifying the underlying principles, reasons, or facts of information by breaking down information or data into separate parts.
|Identifying Objects, Actions, and Events — Identifying information by categorizing, estimating, recognizing differences or similarities, and detecting changes in circumstances or events.
Work Context
|Face-to-Face Discussions — 85% responded "Every day."
|Electronic Mail — 63% responded "Every day."
|Telephone — 49% responded "Every day."
|Contact With Others — 52% responded "Constant contact with others."
|Freedom to Make Decisions — 48% responded "A lot of freedom."
|Exposed to Contaminants — 42% responded "Every day."
|Importance of Being Exact or Accurate — 52% responded "Very important."
|Work With Work Group or Team — 47% responded "Very important."
|Indoors, Environmentally Controlled — 44% responded "Every day."
|Outdoors, Exposed to Weather — 43% responded "Every day."
Job Zone
|Job Zone Four: Considerable Preparation Needed
|Most of these occupations require a four-year bachelor's degree, but some do not.
|Related Experience
|A considerable amount of work-related skill, knowledge, or experience is needed for these occupations. For example, an accountant must complete four years of college and work for several years in accounting to be considered qualified.
|Job Training
|Employees in these occupations usually need several years of work-related experience, on-the-job training, and/or vocational training.
|Job Zone Examples
|Many of these occupations involve coordinating, supervising, managing, or training others. Examples include accountants, sales managers, database administrators, teachers, chemists, art directors, and cost estimators.
|SVP Range
|(7.0 to < 8.0)
Percentage of Respondents
|Education Level Required
|Bachelor's degree
|Master's degree
|Associate's degree
This occupation may require a background in the following science, technology, engineering, and mathematics (STEM) educational disciplines:
Interest code: IRC
|Investigative — Investigative occupations frequently involve working with ideas, and require an extensive amount of thinking. These occupations can involve searching for facts and figuring out problems mentally.
|Realistic — Realistic occupations frequently involve work activities that include practical, hands-on problems and solutions. They often deal with plants, animals, and real-world materials like wood, tools, and machinery. Many of the occupations require working outside, and do not involve a lot of paperwork or working closely with others.
|Conventional — Conventional occupations frequently involve following set procedures and routines. These occupations can include working with data and details more than with ideas. Usually there is a clear line of authority to follow.
Work Styles
|Integrity — Job requires being honest and ethical.
|Analytical Thinking — Job requires analyzing information and using logic to address work-related issues and problems.
|Attention to Detail — Job requires being careful about detail and thorough in completing work tasks.
|Dependability — Job requires being reliable, responsible, and dependable, and fulfilling obligations.
|Cooperation — Job requires being pleasant with others on the job and displaying a good-natured, cooperative attitude.
|Initiative — Job requires a willingness to take on responsibilities and challenges.
|Achievement/Effort — Job requires establishing and maintaining personally challenging achievement goals and exerting effort toward mastering tasks.
|Adaptability/Flexibility — Job requires being open to change (positive or negative) and to considerable variety in the workplace.
|Independence — Job requires developing one's own ways of doing things, guiding oneself with little or no supervision, and depending on oneself to get things done.
|Persistence — Job requires persistence in the face of obstacles.
Work Values
|Achievement — Occupations that satisfy this work value are results oriented and allow employees to use their strongest abilities, giving them a feeling of accomplishment. Corresponding needs are Ability Utilization and Achievement.
|Support — Occupations that satisfy this work value offer supportive management that stands behind employees. Corresponding needs are Company Policies, Supervision: Human Relations and Supervision: Technical.
|Relationships — Occupations that satisfy this work value allow employees to provide service to others and work with co-workers in a friendly non-competitive environment. Corresponding needs are Co-workers, Moral Values and Social Service.
Related Occupations
|Environmental Compliance Inspectors
|Geodetic Surveyors
|Environmental Engineering Technicians Green
|Soil and Water Conservationists
|Environmental Scientists and Specialists, Including Health
|Geological Sample Test Technicians
|Precision Agriculture Technicians Bright Outlook
|First-Line Supervisors of Aquacultural Workers
|Freight and Cargo Inspectors
Wages & Employment Trends
|Median wages (2014)
|$20.29 hourly, $42,190 annual
|State wages
|Employment (2012)
|33,000 employees
|Projected growth (2012-2022)
|Faster than average (15% to 21%)
|Projected job openings (2012-2022)
|State trends
|Top industries (2012)
Source: Bureau of Labor Statistics 2014 wage data and 2012-2022 employment projections . "Projected growth" represents the estimated change in total employment over the projections period (2012-2022). "Projected job openings" represent openings due to growth and replacement.
Job Openings on the Web
Sources of Additional Information
Disclaimer: Sources are listed to provide additional information on related jobs, specialties, and/or industries. Links to non-DOL Internet sites are provided for your convenience and do not constitute an endorsement.
- Environmental Science and Protection Technicians . Bureau of Labor Statistics, U.S. Department of Labor. Occupational Outlook Handbook, 2014-15 Edition.


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End To Innocence, An: 1. A Neat Trick
Shouts and breaking glass off to the east, and Maggie paused. Laughter, and a scream cut off. "Fuck." She scowled faintly, glancing at her watch, then loosened one of the Glocks in its holster and moved towards the sounds.
Through an alley, and a block away, she found the source of the trouble: Two Scimitars--easily identifiable by the curved blade painted in white and red on the backs of their dark jackets--clearly drunk, and girl, not yet out of her teens. Maggie couldn't make out what they were saying, but the thrust was clear enough. The girl was terrified, bloody cut on her cheek and a bruise already rising, her shirt torn, and Maggie drew the pistol and stepped into the light.
"That's enough," she said quietly, her voice carrying on the mist in the air, and the two men turned towards her, their laughter quieting when they saw the weapon. Maggie's heart was hammering.
The larger of the men cocked his head at her as through trying to make out a shadow among shadows, then laughed again. "She's a fuckin' whore, what do you care?"
The girl broke away from the one who'd been holding her, and when he reached for her again Maggie made a sharp sound and he stopped. The girl didn't wait to see what would happen next, grabbing her purse from where it had fallen and taking off down the street.
"Sonuva--fucking hell," snarled as he turned to face Maggie. "Bitch has my money--you gonna get it back for me?"
Maggie shrugged. "Suffer, baby," she murmured. "I'm sure a few dollars more or less isn't going to kill you, and you shouldn'ta been fucking around. Now go on. I've got someplace to be."
More muttered obscenities, but they backed off, and Maggie watched them go, then took a deep breath and leaned against the wall. In all the years she'd been doing this, she'd never gotten used to it, and as she headed back towards the Halfway Point, she wondered whether it was ever, ever going to get any better.
She got to the Halfway Point and found a seat at the bar. She'd worried they might ask her to disarm--sometimes they did. It depended on who was at the door. Tonight it was Grace, who seemed to actually prefer Maggie to come armed. One more person to help keep the rabble under control. In any event, Grace hadn't commented on the weaponry, just let her in.
The bartender was one she didn't recognize. "What can I get you tonight?" he asked with a smile.
"Could I just get a bottled water for now?"
"Sure thing," he said, and turned away just as Maggie felt someone sidle up beside her. She turned, expecting to find one of her teammates, and instead found a man some ten years her junior, gazing at her with a slightly predatory, slightly drunken expression. He looked alarmingly like Steven.
Steven, who had ditched her because she was too old, too tough, and too worried about the state of the world. He just wanted, he said as he left, to have some fucking fun while he still could, and that while fucking her was fun, it wasn't fun enough to make him want stick around if she was going to keep causing trouble. "The world is what it is," he'd said. "Live with it, or get the hell out, but stop trying to change it!"
She turned back to the bar.
"Oh, come on," he said. "Don't do that."
She wasn't entirely sure he was talking to her--she hadn't exactly dressed to impress, and, looked more like a dock worker or a thief trying to keep warm than a woman on the prowl. When she glanced over her shoulder, though, there he still was, looking directly at her. "Don't do what?" she asked.
"I'm harmless," he said, inching a little closer and putting his hand on the back of her chair.
She let the smile reach her lips, but not her eyes. "I'm not," she said, "but I still don't know what I'm not supposed to do."
"Oh," he said, raising an eyebrow. "Not harmless, huh? Wanna show me just how dangerous you can be?"
He scowled. "You're not very friendly," he said.
"True enough," she answered, and turned back to the bar. After a moment, she felt air where he'd been, and took a breath, relieved. Then he slipped into the seat beside her.
"You don't frighten me," he said.
"I don't want to frighten you," she answered. "I want to sit here, by myself, and wait for my friends."
"I could show you a magic trick while you wait."
"I don't like magic," she said.
The bartender stopped what he was doing and turned to the younger man. "No magic in the Halfway Point," he said. "Strictly against the rules."
"Oh, come on!" he said, outrage in his voice. "You let weapons in'ere, but not wizards?"
"Yes, wizards," said the bartender, "but no wizardry."
"All right, all right," he said, sullen. But when the bartender turned away, he leaned over and said quietly, "Really, I could show you a neat trick. Whaddaya wanna see?"
She sighed. "What do I want to see?" she asked, absentmindedly twisting the cap of the water bottle. "I want to see a world where good actually fights against evil instead of closing its eyes and hoping evil gets bored enough to leave." She felt his hand on her thigh and moved it off. "I want to see a world where honor isn't dead and neither is chivalry," she went on, glancing at his hand pointedly, which was already moving back up onto her thigh, "and where I can make a positive difference," she removed his hand again, "find true love, be a strong person, and still have someone around who wants to protect me instead of trying to get something out of me."
He reached out and cupped the back of her neck, drawing her towards him in what she supposed must pass, in his drunken mind, for a seductive kiss. With a little sigh, she cupped his hand in hers, pressing her fingers to the fleshy pad at the base of his thumb, and twisted, hard. He yelped, suddenly out of his chair and bent at an awkward angle. "I want to see," she said, looking at him, "a world where I don't have to be rude just to make some drunk twenty-six year old stop trying to chat me up in my favorite bar." She let go of his hand and picked up her water, twisting the cap on tight, and stood up to move to another part of the bar.
"'Some drunk twennysix year old,' huh?" he said before she could leave, shaking his arm out. "Huh. Well, I think I can show you all that, sweet cheeks. See how much better it is than a twennysix year old."
And there was a brief pause in everything, as though the universe's transmission had lost signal for just a moment. And then he was gone.
And so was the bar.
And so was the city.
Maggie gasped involuntarily, and staggered backwards into the trunk of a tree, hitting her head sharply. She stood still, scarcely noticing the slight pain, holding her breath, waiting for the world to come back. There was quiet, and the air smelled of wood smoke. It was either dawn or twilight, cold, a blueish sky, and watery light silvering the forest around her. She realized she still had the water with her, and dropped it into one of the big pockets on the side of the cargo pants.
She waited for a long, long moment. Then she said quietly, "Oh. Fuck."
And then voices, not too distant.
"I love Gondor as I love my own life." A man's voice, low, but strong, and fierce. "For generations she has held the freedom of the West in her hands, held it with the blood of her people--of our people! And where have you been, King of Gondor?" Maggie tried to see the speakers, but her view was blocked by thick underbrush. "You," the voice continued, "the one man who above all others should have been caring for Gondor and her people. You will not lead us, and you refuse the weapon that could save us!"
And a second voice, just as fierce. "You know it is impossible. The ring will destroy us all if we use it--our only hope is in its destruction. You know this to be true, yet you persist--"
"In wanting our people to flourish, yes, I don't deny it. In wanting the true king to accept the crown of Gondor or surrender it. But how is the destruction of our one real weapon also our only hope? This is madness!"
"We will not discuss this now, Boromir. You have accepted my leadership--respect it or depart the fellowship for Gondor, and no man will think less of you."
"Aragorn!" But Maggie heard departing footsteps in the dry leaves that covered the ground, then a muffled curse in a language she didn't recognize, and a second set of footsteps following the first.
It was only a moment before she started after them. "These may be the only people around," she muttered, "and I have no fucking clue where I am. I'll be damned if I'll huddle by a tree waiting for some animal to decide I'm a tasty snack."
But when she'd followed them as far as their camp, her courage failed her. How could she approach such a motley crew as this? Two who were clearly men, but the rest? A boy who couldn't have been more than seventeen, as pretty as a girl; a bearded midget--"little people" she'd first been told to call them, then "differently statured," which seemed too much of a mouthful, but mostly what she remembered was a perverted non-sport called "Dwarf bowling" that had been trendy a few years back. And he was carrying what looked like a battle axe, of all things. And four who looked like children but weren't acting like them.
The tension in the group was palpable. Maggie was pretty sure it had to do with the fight she'd overheard--the two men were on opposite sides of the fire, pointedly not looking at each other--but in any event, she knew couldn't walk into that camp, armed or unarmed, and expect a friendly welcome.
But neither could she leave. This was wilderness--there was no sign of anything that looked like it might even one day become a road, and the camp was clearly of people who didn't expect to see civilization for quite a while. So she stayed downwind, out of sight, and waited, watching. The group finished what she now knew was breakfast as the sun started to climb in the sky, and then one of the men called them together, and she recognized the voice as the one the other had called Aragorn.
She couldn't hear what was said, but after a short discussion, one of the children got up and walked into the woods, away from her. The rest started to go about the business of packing up the camp, and Maggie became even more nervous. She had to make herself known before they left. But surely they wouldn't leave before the child came back--child, or whatever it was, for who would let a child wander off into the woods alone? and when did children act so like adults? The three below were busying themselves with tasks no child would have even been permitted to do, and now she saw that even they carried long knives, which on them were like swords.
She was still fidgeting behind her little outcropping of stone, trying to make up her mind what to do, when one of the men returned to the camp, though she didn't recall seeing him leave. It was the one she supposed was Boromir, and he looked sullen. There were a few moments of conversation, and then suddenly the children leapt to their feet and rushed off into the trees, crying out--a word, or a name, she didn't know. Maggie blinked. Barely three breaths later the rest of them were gone as well, and Maggie, slightly panicked, stood up. Then, with no better idea of what to do, she started off in pursuit of Boromir, on the theory that if Aragorn would abandon a whole country, he probably wouldn't give rat's ass about a stranger.
She hadn't gone half a mile when she realized that in the distance were sounds of many people crashing through the forest. It gave her a bad feeling in the pit of her stomach, and she drew one of the pistols and kept running. Ahead, she heard what sounded like an elephant, or the horn of an 18-wheeler, then Boromir's voice yelling "Run! Run!"
She froze in place for what seemed like far too long, the urge to flee fighting the urge to hide. But what then, in either case? Flee where? Hide to emerge and face what? Menace all around, no friends, just herself, the pistols, and two knives. Weapon in hand, heart racing, she sprinted through the forest towards Boromir's voice. All around her she heard the crashing of heavy bodies through the underbrush, and she fought down panic. "No way out but through," she thought, and then she was in an open glade, and in front of her an impossible sight. Boromir, facing off against what seemed to be more than a dozen foes, huge and distinctly not human, behind him the children, knives drawn. As she watched, he was struck by an arrow, faltered, but didn't fall. And she, half a hundred yards away, was unnoticed.
Maggie had no idea what the creatures were he was fighting, nor who was in the right. But he was human, and he was one against far too many, and there was no time for conversation to work out whether this could be solved by diplomatic means--he'd be dead before she could get the first, "now wait a minute here" out of her mouth. She raised the weapon, sighted on a creature with its bow drawn on the man, and without hesitating, fired.
The reaction she got was astonishing. The noise of the Glock was loud even in the noise of battle, but when it fired and the creature she'd aimed at dropped, its arrow flying wild, there was a moment's utter stillness as everyone turned to find the source of the sound.
She took the opportunity to shoot two more--clean shots to the head--and then half a dozen charged her while the rest turned on the man and the children. The thought flickered through her mind that it would have been too much to ask that the sound just frighten these things away.
She kept firing, her aim as true as if she were at the practice range, and the man was not too stunned by her appearance to continue his own fight, slaughtering as many with the sword he wielded as she felled with bullets before she realized, breathless, that the field of battle was clear of enemies. All that remained were the the man, the two children, a dozen or more dead, and the smell of blood and gunfire.
Chest tight, not yet quite giving in to the panic she felt, the weapon hot in her hand, she turned to the wounded man just as he fell to one knee. Suddenly afraid that the arrow had struck something more vital than it looked, or that it was poisoned, she crossed the field to him in a few long strides and dropped to the ground, arriving a scant few seconds ahead of his other companions--dwarf, youth, and man, who approached at speed. He was looking at her, puzzled, when Aragorn knelt beside them.
"Ah, my friend," said Aragorn, slipping his arms around the other man as Boromir faltered. "When the horn of Gondor ceased to blow, I feared we would find you too late."
"Nay," Boromir replied, "nay, I live, and Merry and Pippin as well. But Frodo--where is Frodo?"
"Lie back," said Aragorn, "be still, let me get the poison out."
"Where is the ring bearer?"
"Boromir, lie still..."
"No, Aragorn--"
"Shh, Boromir," pressing him to the ground, "I must get the poison out."
Maggie, who wasn't at all used to this level of bloodshed, got shakily to her feet and walked away a dozen paces, then sat down heavily, feeling queasy and lightheaded. She looked around her at the carnage. It wasn't a bit like at the target range, where the bodies were holographic and just disappeared when you were done. Here, there weren't just bodies, but blood, butchery, creatures with dead eyes open in surprise, wetness on the ground where flesh had been cut from their bones, and then those with neat little holes drilled into their foreheads and opening the backs of their skulls....
She felt her stomach heave, and scrambled for the edge of the trees where she was suddenly and violently ill.
When she was sure nothing more was coming up she rinsed her mouth with water from the bottle in her pocket, spread dirt and leaves over the mess, walked a ways away from it and sat down again, head in hands, listening to the sounds of strangers to be sure they didn't just go off and leave her there.
After a moment the youth came and sat beside her. "You do not appear to be an Orc," he said, and she sensed something joking in his tone.
"Well," she said, "I might be. I don't actually know what one is. Are those Orcs?" and she motioned to the heavy bodies that littered the forest floor.
"Indeed. Though for you to not know...."
She shrugged. "I'm not from around here," she said shakily. "So I really hope y'all are the good guys."
"'Yall'?" he said, perplexed.
"Oh, um. You. You and your friends. 'You all'."
"Ah." He looked thoughtful. "Yes," he said finally. "I think we are the good guys." There was a pause. "I am Legolas."
"Maggie Dunshay," she said. "Nice to meet you." She smiled at him, and was rewarded with a smile in return that she thought could probably have powered half a city block.
"Are you unwell?" he asked, after a moment.
"Uh," she said, "you, um...."
He nodded towards the treeline where she'd been sick. "I saw."
"Well," she said, "it's just that I've never actually killed a person before." She shook her head and smiled slightly. "At least I guess those were people. And I know, it's stupid, things being what they are--the police, the government, everyone fending for himself. But I'm not--not used to it."
Legolas said nothing at first. Then, "I would not have taken you for a warrior, but you have courage, standing in the face of such foes." A pause. "And you saved my friend. It seems if not for you, Boromir would have perished, and the Hobbits been carried to a worse fate."
"Um." She glanced at him sideways. "'Hobbits'?"
He smiled again. "I am not surprised that their name is unfamiliar to you. They have walked out of legend and into the light of day, as have so many, less appealing things." He pointed towards the cluster of people around the fallen soldier. "The small ones are Hobbits."
"So, they're not children? or are they?"
He shook his head. "No, though they have some childlike ways about them. Little people, from the Shire. Not Dwarves, not Elves, not Men, but free folk, and good-hearted. Merry and Pippin, whom you saved when you came to Boromir's aid."
She looked at him, her eyes wide. "'Elves?" she said. "Dwarves? Wait--what?"
He frowned. "You must indeed be from far away."
"You're--an Elf." She'd noticed the slightly pointy ears, but had thought it was just an attractive birth defect, and had put his strange otherworldliness down to her own shock at an unreal situation.
He shook his head, but clearly in amazement rather than to contradict her. "Is there a part of the world we abandoned so long ago that they do not even know us?" he said, more to himself than to her, but he didn't continue and Maggie didn't pursue it, trying to put the bits of the world into some order that made sense in her mind. Then at last Legolas said, "It seems Boromir was sore beset by enemies, and many of the dead show no sign of either sword wounds nor arrows. And you carry no weapon I know but two knives, still sheathed."
"Mmm." She lifted the gun that was still in her hand and gazed at it with a small smile. "My babies," she said. "They're handy things to have around. They should be--each one cost a mint, and then there are the 17-round magazines, not so cheap either."
He eyed it warily. "So small a thing," he said. "How could it do this?" He gestured to the carnage.
"Amazing, isn't it," she said. "I've often wondered about that myself. How can such a little thing do so much damage?"
He touched it gingerly, but didn't offer to take it. "You do not know your own weapon?" he asked. "I would be loathe to carry something so deadly, not understanding it. What do you call it?" he asked.
"I haven't named them," she said, "though some of my friends have named their weapons. Nothing feels right." She shrugged. "Anyway, it's a Glock 35 semi-automatic pistol."
"Ah," he said, and nodded, clearly not enlightened.
She looked at him. "A pistol. A gun," she said, frowning.
He gazed at her. "Gun?"
"You--you can't tell me you don't know what one is?"
He shook his head.
"Oh my god," she murmured. "Where the hell am I?"
"You are near Parth Galen, on the river Anduin, near Rauros Falls."
She nodded. "Uh-huh. And you don't know what a gun is?"
He shook his head again. "Is it magical?"
"Good lord, no. What it does," she went on, "is propel a bit of metal called a bullet at very high speed. The metal enters the body and does a great deal of damage. And I've got..." she did the math. "I've got thirty-six rounds--bullets--left: two in this magazine, seventeen in the other, and a spare magazine. Then, it's just me, and my kick-ass grappling skills, and my not-quite-so-kick-ass kickboxing skills, and the knives." They were quiet a while, watching Aragorn and Boromir, and at a small distance, the Dwarf and the Hobbits. Then, without planning to, Maggie said, "I am completely lost."
Legolas looked at her, waiting for her to continue.
"I was sitting in a bar, trying to get a wizard to stop chatting me up, and the next thing I knew I was in the woods, listening to those two argue about crown and a ring. I followed them to your camp, thinking maybe y'all could tell me where I am, but you all looked so grim that I didn't want to interrupt. And then there was a meeting and a flurry and then everyone ran off into the woods. I followed Boromir, I don't really know why, and found him about to be killed by about forty-seven of those things. So I shot a bunch of them and he hacked a bunch of them to death and then y'all came and killed a bunch, and--what, did we kill them all or did the rest run off?" She sighed. "I don't know what the hell is going on."
To her surprise, he laughed, but it was such a pleasant sound that she didn't take offense. "Of all of us, at least you confess it."
She chuckled. "Great. So no one knows what's going on?"
"Not as much as we would wish it." He stood and held out his hand to her. "Come, we are not so fearsome now that you have seen our foe, are we?"
She laughed. "Well, you are," she said, "but you're a hell of a lot better than the competition." She took his hand and stood.
Boromir was sitting up, cradled in Aragorn's arms as they approached. "Ah," he said, his voice tired and strained but strong enough, "my unnamed rescuer."
"The lady is Maggie Dunshay," said Legolas. "And these rough men are Aragorn and Boromir; Gimli, Gloin's son; and Merry and Pippin, Hobbits from the Shire."
She smiled. "Nice to meet y'all," she said, before kneeling beside Boromir and gently touching the bandages that covered his wound. "So, you're going to be okay?" she asked. "No more poison?"
"No more poison," said Aragorn. "Our comrade will be well, provided he does not throw himself into battle with half a company of Orcs again."
Boromir chuckled. "I know not what magic you used, lady," he said, "but you have my thanks."
"And mine, and the thanks of us all," said Aragorn, and then cautiously, "But how came you here? we thought these woods deserted of all save us and the enemy."
She heard the wariness in his voice, but didn't know what to do about it, so she told him what she'd told Legolas. "So," she finished, "not only do I not know how I got here, I don't know where 'here' is, or where 'there' was in relation to here, or how to get home, or what to do next, or...." She paused. "Do any of you know what a gun is?"
"Gun?" said Boromir, frowning.
"No, I can't say I do," said Merry.
"A weapon," Legolas explained. "Fierce, though small."
"Like a Hobbit," said Boromir with a smile. "That must be the weapon that made such a great sound, and seemed to do nothing, except when the enemy began to fall."
"And it's totally not magical," Maggie said, "and common as dirt where I'm from." She failed to notice their astonished gazes, and the thoughtful looks on the faces of Boromir, Aragorn, and Gimli. "I'm starting to think I'm really a lot further away from home than is actually possible." She paused. "And I'm really hoping I can come with y'all--with you all--because if I can't, I suspect I'm going to live somewhat longer than will be comfortable, and not nearly as long as I'd assumed I would when I got out of bed this morning."
Boromir's laugh turned quickly to a cough, and he said, "You may live neither longer nor more comfortably if you do go with us, lady," but he smiled at her.
There wasn't much discussion, and she was privy to none of it, but after a few moments Legolas came to her and said, "You will come with us. Though the path is into war and there is no great hope of victory, still, 'tis better to be in good company on such a path than alone."
They pressed on that day, heading for someplace called Rohan, so Aragorn told them, to talk with a king there about getting help for something Maggie wasn't quite clear on. She really didn't understand what was going on, but didn't like to trouble them for an explanation. She figured it'd all become clear in time. What interested her now was how these disparate people treated each other. The Hobbits, Merry and Pippin, were both childlike and clearly well beyond childish years. They stuck close to Boromir, and he seemed as protective towards them as one might be towards children, yet he never condescended to them, nor treated them with anything but respect.
And Boromir... she found herself keeping about seven paces behind him most of the time. She tried to do otherwise, but always drifted back there, not too close, but never far. There was something compelling about him. The passion in his voice when she'd first heard him arguing with Aragorn. And now, the argument behind them and Boromir wounded in battle, they were clearly... well, if not exactly friends, certainly comrades. They walked close, talking quietly from time to time, though Maggie couldn't hear the words. She didn't try very hard, figuring it was as rude to eavesdrop here as anywhere else. But she found herself strangely envious of the bond they clearly shared. They might disagree, they might argue, they might even hate each other in a way, but there was a love and loyalty there that was plain to see.
Once, Boromir dropped back to walk beside her. Neither of them spoke for a while, and she relished sharing a companionable silence with him. The scent of leather and cloves, and the musky odor of sweat made her want to reach over and touch him, but also made such a touch seem unnecessary. Finally, gathering up her nerve, and in part afraid that at any moment he might choose to walk with someone else, or to go talk to Aragorn again, or that something would happen to pull him away from her side, Maggie confessed. "I--when I first, um. Found myself here, it was in the woods near your camp. Just around dawn." She paused. "I, um. I overheard, you and Aragorn. The... the disagreement you were having." He nodded, but said nothing. "I thought I should tell you," she said. "Y'know. It being not right to know something about someone that they don't know you know."
He nodded again. "You are forthright," he said. "And honest. Admirable traits." They walked a ways further. "You do not wish to know more of the matter you overheard?"
She cocked her head to one side. "Well, sure, I'd like to know more. But it's not really my business, is it?"
He smiled. "And discreet." He was quiet for another dozen steps. "One day I shall tell you all, I suspect," he said, giving her a sideways glance, and a small smile. "I owe you some payment, after all, for my life."
She chuckled. "No, you really don't, you know. I mean," she sought the words, "it's--I mean that's just what you do, right? when you see someone in trouble and you can help?" She looked at him. "It's just what you do. You don't owe me." She smiled. "Though if you wanted to, I dunno, buy me a beer sometime and tell me the story of your life, that'd be okay, and you have incredibly beautiful eyes." She blushed and laughed. "Whoops. Did I say that out loud?"
To her great dismay he was looking at her, and she thought she could just perceive a blush of his own beneath the tanned skin. Then he laughed, a loud, delighted laugh. "Beautiful?" he said, and shook his head. "Beautiful. That word should come from my lips to your ears, lady, not the reverse."
'Shit shit shit,' she thought. 'God, I've fucked it up now, haven't I?' What she said was, "Too forward?" with a smile. "Well, y'know, honest and forthright, that's me all over."
"Nay lady," he said, smiling still. "Not too forward--too generous. 'Beautiful', my eyes? Would that it were so, these eyes that have seen too many evils, some by my own hand."
She hated seeing the smile fade from his lips and his thoughts turn inward, though she had no idea to what sorrow. She let a step bring her closer to his side. "Whatever you've seen," she said softly, "those evils aren't reflected in you. Whatever you've done, you seem a good man to me. And to these people you travel with. Don't take their opinion for nothing." She paused. "Everyone does things they wish they hadn't," she said at last. "It doesn't make us any less--any less human, or any less deserving of love, and hope," she smiled, "and chocolates, and compliments on our beautiful eyes, and good bourbon, and stuff like that."
He smiled at her, for a moment she thought he might speak again, but his eyes were still distant, and they walked on in silence.
They made camp in the twilight. Maggie felt worse than useless, having no provisions herself except for what was in her pockets, nor anything to make camp with, and she sat to one side, not sure what to do. She felt a bit like baggage.
Legolas came and sat beside her.
"I feel a bit like baggage," she said, starting to take things out of her pockets to see what she had. Water, her mobile phone, her binoculars, and she said, "I didn't come prepared for a night in the woods, just for a few drinks at a pub." Then she found the little toiletries case with a small soap, a mini-toothbrush, dental floss, and a travel tube of toothpaste, which she'd tossed into her pocket the last time she'd gone for a recreational fuck with her pal Alex, and a little packet of OB tampons. "Okay, maybe I did," she muttered to herself, quickly tucking the tampons out of sight.
"Do you always carry such powerful weapons when you go drinking?" Legolas asked.
She glanced up in a panic, then remembered the guns and relaxed. 'Like he'd know what tampons are anyway,' she thought to herself. "Um, yes actually, I usually do," she said. "Things aren't very nice where I'm from."
"As in a great many places," he replied. "Lembas," he said, offering her a bit of cake.
"Oo," she said with a smile. "I love cake!"
"Just a bit," he cautioned her. "It is Elvish waybread, and just a small bit makes a good meal." He chuckled to himself, glancing at the Hobbits. "Ask Merry and Pippin what happens when you eat too much."
They sat quietly together for some time, a companionable silence between them. Finally, she said, "Gimli seems nice."
He laughed. "'Nice'? I shall tell him you said so; it is a trait few have accused him of." Another silence, and he said, "But is it really our dour Dwarf of whom you think?"
She looked away, then down, then sideways at the youth, a slight blush creeping across her fair skin. "God, am I so obvious?"
"Seven paces," said Legolas, "except for one conversation that seemed to delight our friend. Even Gimli noticed."
"Oh lord," she muttered, "I really am doomed."
"There is no shame in it," he said. "Boromir is a fine man. It is no surprise you wonder about him, having had his life in your hands."
"'Wonder,'" she said. "Yes, well, that's one way of putting it."
And another long silence before Legolas said softly, "If it helps your thoughts, I have not heard him mention any lover."
Maggie was very glad the twilight had faded into darkness as the full bloom of a blush reddened her face. "Oh," she said, "I couldn't go there. He's... I'm... I mean." She laughed. "As my last boyfriend put it, I'm the tough bitch, not the pretty one."
Legolas leaned close. "Beauty is a small thing compared with valor, courage, and strength. And beauty dwells in those things as well."
She shook her head. "That's not how it works in the stories. In the stories, you also have to have a quick wit and a pure heart and a sharp but charming tongue, and you still have to be so gorgeous you can't walk into the room without everyone falling madly in love with you. And it helps to be rich, or if you're not rich, it's only because you've renounced your inheritance because your family's money came from some nefarious thing like--like secret government experiments on bunnies. And did I mention that you also have to be fucking gorgeous?" She sighed. "In the stories, the girl's biggest problem is choosing between the two different but equally wonderful men who are crazy about her."
"Then how happy it is that we live in the world," said Legolas, "not in the stories, for who could be all those things, and who could stand the company of one who was?"
Maggie laughed. "Oh," she said, "you are a honey. You can stay. Thank you."
"No thanks deserved for speaking the truth," he said, but smiled.
They sat in silence again for a while, before she saw the silhouette of Aragorn against the failing light as he rose and started towards them. She felt her stomach tighten.
"Maggie," he said, as he sat beside her, and she was grateful that Legolas showed no sign of departing. "It is an unusual name."
"It's short for Margaret," she answered. "Ashley Margaret Dunshay, currently residing at 46-B Kirkwood Lane, New Washington, Maryland."
"I know nothing of these places," he said. "They must be far from here indeed."
She chuckled. "I suspect so."
"And you know not how you came here?"
She shook her head. "Just what I told you."
"And this wizard," Aragorn continued. "He was a stranger to you? You have no knowledge of why he would choose to transport you here, now of all times?"
"Nope," she said. "He wanted to show me a magic trick, and magic isn't allowed in the bar we were at. I just wanted him to go away." She realized she was picking at the wool of her vest and forced her fingers to be still. "He asked me what I wanted to see, and I said something or other that I hoped would shut him up, and he tried to kiss me, and I stopped him--I think I may have hurt his arm--and he said 'well okay', or something like that, and 'poof', here I was."
Aragorn nodded.
"What did you tell him you wanted to see?" asked Legolas.
Maggie thought about it. "Something--something weird. I was... I was thinking of...." She'd been thinking of Steve, but she didn't want to tell them about Steve. "I was thinking of this guy who was mad at me because he thought I was too idealistic," she said at last, "and I was thinking about what a crappy place the world is with everyone just looking out for himself and ignoring the things that are happening." She paused, wondering if it was really important or if Legolas was just curious. They seemed to be waiting for her to continue, though, so she tried to remember. "I think I said something about wanting to see a place where good fought against evil instead of ignoring it, and where honor wasn't dead, or chivalry or something like that, where I could make a--a positive difference, be a strong person. That I wanted to see a world where I didn't have to be rude to drunk twenty-six year olds trying to chat me up in my favorite bar." She paused. "Something like that."
"Would that Gandalf were here," Aragorn said with a sigh.
"It is not unheard of," said Legolas, "for a powerful wizard to do such a thing. Send another to a world not their own. We might find a way to send you back," he said, "if the world does not fall into darkness first."
Maggie watched the glow where Merry was tending the small fire. Aragorn had been reluctant to allow it, fearing that Orcs were still about, but they'd seen no sign of them during their day's trek through the forest, so he had finally relented. The warm glow lit the faces around it--Merry, Pippin, Boromir, Gimli. They looked, she thought, like they were in a painting, the twilight's blue deepening to night, and the reddish flicker from the fire leaving only their faces visible, their bodies merely blue-black shadows. She heard the soft murmur of their voices, occasional laughter. It was comforting, and the jagged contrast between that comfort and the reality--such as it was--of her situation brought sharp tears to her eyes.
Finally Aragorn spoke again. "And this weapon," he said. "This--what did you call it? Gun?"
"Mm-hmm. A Glock 35, a forty caliber semi-automatic pistol." She hoped her voice didn't sound as thick as it felt, and she rubbed her eyes as though tired, pushing the tears away.
He shook his head. "It is like nothing I know in the world. How does it work?"
She explained it to him as she had to Legolas earlier.
"May I see it?" Aragorn asked.
She held it out to him, saying, "There, don't move that little lever," showing him the safety, "or it could go off and kill someone," and he weighed it in his hand, turning it in what light there was, frowning.
At length he handed it back to her, shaking his head. "If it is not magical," he said quietly, "then perhaps we could forge them ourselves. That could give us a great weapon against the enemy."
"So," she said, "what exactly is this thing y'all are doing, anyway? I mean, clearly there's evil afoot, but, well," she paused. "Well, what's going on? Who do you need guns against?"
She was almost sorry she'd asked, because by the time Aragorn had finished the tale, the night was much colder, the fire was almost out, and it looked like Boromir had already fallen asleep. Gimli stamped over to them just as Aragorn concluded, "so the Ringbearer is gone, and we go to Rohan to speak to King Théoden."
Maggie shook her head. "But I still don't understand. So, there's a dark lord, and a ring, and the ringbearer's gone off with it, but where, and to do what? And if the guy with the ring has left, isn't the party sort of over for the rest of us? What are we--I mean you--going to talk to King Théoden about?"
Aragorn didn't speak, and Maggie didn't press him. She knew he was keeping things from her--he'd said nothing about destroying the ring, and she didn't want to tell him now about overhearing his earlier argument. She wasn't a bit sure what he would do, but she knew she'd have to tell him sometime--maybe Boromir already had. She just didn't want to do it right then, in the dark, with the Legolas and Gimli right there.
Gimli patted her on the shoulder. "Do not trouble yourself about it, lady. It's time you got some sleep." He turned to Aragorn. "I shall take first watch, Merry and Pippin the second, and if you're agreeable, you and Legolas take third and fourth. Boromir should rest, I think, and I've told him it's sleep or I'll send him to sleep myself." Gimli frowned. "He does not complain, but the wound hurts him."
"I can take a watch," said Maggie, but to her complete lack of surprise, they dismissed the notion.
"You are not familiar with this world, and the sounds of it," said Legolas, and the others agreed.
"And you're still adjusting to being not in your own world, I'd wager," Gimli added.
"We have enough watchers to see us through the night with ease," said Aragorn. "What, not two hours apiece--any more and we shall be too rested when we arrive at Rohan; they would never believe our sad tale." He smiled at her. "You rest. We have a long road ahead."
She nodded, knowing that the other reason was 'and we've no bloody clue who you are or why you're here, and we don't trust you one little bit,' and started to get up when Gimli said, "Here, you'll freeze with no more than what you've got on. Boromir bade me bring you his cloak." He handed her a heavy, folded cloth and she felt her heart beat faster, and was irritated by how quickly the warmth spread from her heart downwards. 'Good lord,' she thought to herself, 'it's just a cloak, get a grip.' "But," she said aloud, "what about him? My sweaters and my vest are pretty cozy, and I'm not injured."
Gimli chuckled. "Among us we have cover enough to keep us all from the elements--don't you worry, lady, the wounded soldier will sleep well enough."
She smiled. "Thank you," she said. "All of you," looking around at them. "Really."
"Sleep well," said Aragorn with a small smile.
She picked her way down to where the others were, and spent a moment dithering over just how close she could get to Boromir without being any more obvious than she'd already been. Finally she decided 'not at all', and picked a spot across the fire from him. Unfolding the cloak she wrapped it around herself, and it smelled of leather, cloves, and warm skin. She lay down on the ground and gazed across the dying embers at Boromir's sleeping face, wishing she had the courage, or the lack of sense, to go over to him and just curl her body around him, but instead she closed her eyes and slept, wrapped in his cloak and his scent.
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Can anyone tell me how to get the OpenCL stuff to run? I've installed the latest Nvidia drivers, 260.19.29, but when I install the phoronix-test-suite packages it says I need to install the Nvidia OpenCL package. I've googled and looked on the forums, but I can't find anything about how to get OpenCL to work.
I have an 8800GT, gtx 460, and a gtx 470 that I'd like to benchmark.
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I bought this product because I have a difficult time opening bottles and jars. I couldn't squeeze it hard enough to get it opened.
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I have RA and have trouble opening cans, jars and bottles. I use this helper all the time. Thanks
Bottom LineYes, I would recommend this to a friend
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By Kiki
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I have severe arthritis and a widow; this makes my life so much easier! I use it to open even water bottles. Highly recommend it! I could not open many jars without this gadget!
I wouldn't buy this item again
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I don't know if we did something wrong with this, but the first time it was used, some of the rubber tore. Well, that didn't make me happy at all. I think I threw it away. Bummer
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I was looking for something to help me open 16.9 oz pop bottles and this product works great! I also used it to open a jar of Ragu Spaghetti Sauce last night. I have Rheumatoid Arthritis and don't have the strength in my hands to open jars and pop bottles like I used to be able to do. I would highly recommend this product to anyone who has arthritis. For me it works wonders!
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I have weak wrists and this is so great and I bought 4 more for my daughters and sisters
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I use this to open all jars & bottles. Worked so well, I bought one for each of my family. Best thing I bought in 2013!!!!!! Best thing for hands and wrist.
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I have used mine numerous times to open jars and find it so nice to open them with. I also bought one for a Christmas gift and the lady I gave it to really liked it.
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- Initiate, facilitate, and moderate classroom discussions.
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Tools used in this occupation:
|Microphones — Handheld microphones; Wireless microphones
|Oxygen gas analyzers — CHNS/O Analyzer
|Portable data input terminals — Field data collectors; Interactive whiteboard controllers; Student response systems
|Televisions — Liquid crystal display LCD televisions; Television monitors
|Water analyzers — Stream test kits; Water quality test kits
Technology used in this occupation:
|Computer based training software — Blackboard Learn; Desire2Learn; Learning management system LMS software; Sakai CLE *
|Electronic mail software — Email software; Microsoft Outlook
|Information retrieval or search software — DOC Cop *; iParadigms Turnitin
|Map creation software — ESRI ArcGIS software; Geographic information system GIS systems
|Word processing software — Collaborative editing software; Google Docs *; Microsoft Word
* Software developed by a government agency and/or distributed as freeware or shareware.
|Education and Training — Knowledge of principles and methods for curriculum and training design, teaching and instruction for individuals and groups, and the measurement of training effects.
|English Language — Knowledge of the structure and content of the English language including the meaning and spelling of words, rules of composition, and grammar.
|Geography — Knowledge of principles and methods for describing the features of land, sea, and air masses, including their physical characteristics, locations, interrelationships, and distribution of plant, animal, and human life.
|Biology — Knowledge of plant and animal organisms, their tissues, cells, functions, interdependencies, and interactions with each other and the environment.
|Computers and Electronics — Knowledge of circuit boards, processors, chips, electronic equipment, and computer hardware and software, including applications and programming.
|Mathematics — Knowledge of arithmetic, algebra, geometry, calculus, statistics, and their applications.
|Communications and Media — Knowledge of media production, communication, and dissemination techniques and methods. This includes alternative ways to inform and entertain via written, oral, and visual media.
|Customer and Personal Service — Knowledge of principles and processes for providing customer and personal services. This includes customer needs assessment, meeting quality standards for services, and evaluation of customer satisfaction.
|Administration and Management — Knowledge of business and management principles involved in strategic planning, resource allocation, human resources modeling, leadership technique, production methods, and coordination of people and resources.
|Physics — Knowledge and prediction of physical principles, laws, their interrelationships, and applications to understanding fluid, material, and atmospheric dynamics, and mechanical, electrical, atomic and sub- atomic structures and processes.
|Instructing — Teaching others how to do something.
|Reading Comprehension — Understanding written sentences and paragraphs in work related documents.
|Science — Using scientific rules and methods to solve problems.
|Speaking — Talking to others to convey information effectively.
|Writing — Communicating effectively in writing as appropriate for the needs of the audience.
|Active Learning — Understanding the implications of new information for both current and future problem-solving and decision-making.
|Active Listening — Giving full attention to what other people are saying, taking time to understand the points being made, asking questions as appropriate, and not interrupting at inappropriate times.
|Critical Thinking — Using logic and reasoning to identify the strengths and weaknesses of alternative solutions, conclusions or approaches to problems.
|Learning Strategies — Selecting and using training/instructional methods and procedures appropriate for the situation when learning or teaching new things.
|Monitoring — Monitoring/Assessing performance of yourself, other individuals, or organizations to make improvements or take corrective action.
|Oral Expression — The ability to communicate information and ideas in speaking so others will understand.
|Oral Comprehension — The ability to listen to and understand information and ideas presented through spoken words and sentences.
|Speech Clarity — The ability to speak clearly so others can understand you.
|Written Comprehension — The ability to read and understand information and ideas presented in writing.
|Deductive Reasoning — The ability to apply general rules to specific problems to produce answers that make sense.
|Inductive Reasoning — The ability to combine pieces of information to form general rules or conclusions (includes finding a relationship among seemingly unrelated events).
|Written Expression — The ability to communicate information and ideas in writing so others will understand.
|Near Vision — The ability to see details at close range (within a few feet of the observer).
|Speech Recognition — The ability to identify and understand the speech of another person.
|Problem Sensitivity — The ability to tell when something is wrong or is likely to go wrong. It does not involve solving the problem, only recognizing there is a problem.
Work Activities
|Getting Information — Observing, receiving, and otherwise obtaining information from all relevant sources.
|Making Decisions and Solving Problems — Analyzing information and evaluating results to choose the best solution and solve problems.
|Thinking Creatively — Developing, designing, or creating new applications, ideas, relationships, systems, or products, including artistic contributions.
|Training and Teaching Others — Identifying the educational needs of others, developing formal educational or training programs or classes, and teaching or instructing others.
|Updating and Using Relevant Knowledge — Keeping up-to-date technically and applying new knowledge to your job.
|Communicating with Supervisors, Peers, or Subordinates — Providing information to supervisors, co-workers, and subordinates by telephone, in written form, e-mail, or in person.
|Interpreting the Meaning of Information for Others — Translating or explaining what information means and how it can be used.
|Analyzing Data or Information — Identifying the underlying principles, reasons, or facts of information by breaking down information or data into separate parts.
|Interacting With Computers — Using computers and computer systems (including hardware and software) to program, write software, set up functions, enter data, or process information.
|Organizing, Planning, and Prioritizing Work — Developing specific goals and plans to prioritize, organize, and accomplish your work.
Work Context
|Electronic Mail — 100% responded "Every day."
|Freedom to Make Decisions — 77% responded "A lot of freedom."
|Indoors, Environmentally Controlled — 88% responded "Every day."
|Duration of Typical Work Week — 82% responded "More than 40 hours."
|Face-to-Face Discussions — 55% responded "Every day."
|Structured versus Unstructured Work — 64% responded "A lot of freedom."
|Telephone — 57% responded "Every day."
|Importance of Being Exact or Accurate — 54% responded "Extremely important."
|Public Speaking — 57% responded "Once a week or more but not every day."
|Work With Work Group or Team — 45% responded "Extremely important."
Job Zone
|Job Zone Five: Extensive Preparation Needed
|Most of these occupations require graduate school. For example, they may require a master's degree, and some require a Ph.D., M.D., or J.D. (law degree).
|Related Experience
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|Job Training
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|Job Zone Examples
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Percentage of Respondents
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|Doctoral degree
|Master's degree
|Post-doctoral training
This occupation may require a background in the following science, technology, engineering, and mathematics (STEM) educational disciplines:
Interest code: SIA
|Social — Social occupations frequently involve working with, communicating with, and teaching people. These occupations often involve helping or providing service to others.
|Investigative — Investigative occupations frequently involve working with ideas, and require an extensive amount of thinking. These occupations can involve searching for facts and figuring out problems mentally.
|Artistic — Artistic occupations frequently involve working with forms, designs and patterns. They often require self-expression and the work can be done without following a clear set of rules.
Work Styles
|Analytical Thinking — Job requires analyzing information and using logic to address work-related issues and problems.
|Dependability — Job requires being reliable, responsible, and dependable, and fulfilling obligations.
|Independence — Job requires developing one's own ways of doing things, guiding oneself with little or no supervision, and depending on oneself to get things done.
|Integrity — Job requires being honest and ethical.
|Initiative — Job requires a willingness to take on responsibilities and challenges.
|Achievement/Effort — Job requires establishing and maintaining personally challenging achievement goals and exerting effort toward mastering tasks.
|Attention to Detail — Job requires being careful about detail and thorough in completing work tasks.
|Leadership — Job requires a willingness to lead, take charge, and offer opinions and direction.
|Persistence — Job requires persistence in the face of obstacles.
|Stress Tolerance — Job requires accepting criticism and dealing calmly and effectively with high stress situations.
Work Values
|Achievement — Occupations that satisfy this work value are results oriented and allow employees to use their strongest abilities, giving them a feeling of accomplishment. Corresponding needs are Ability Utilization and Achievement.
|Independence — Occupations that satisfy this work value allow employees to work on their own and make decisions. Corresponding needs are Creativity, Responsibility and Autonomy.
|Recognition — Occupations that satisfy this work value offer advancement, potential for leadership, and are often considered prestigious. Corresponding needs are Advancement, Authority, Recognition and Social Status.
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|Agricultural Sciences Teachers, Postsecondary
|Biological Science Teachers, Postsecondary
|Forestry and Conservation Science Teachers, Postsecondary
|Atmospheric, Earth, Marine, and Space Sciences Teachers, Postsecondary
|Chemistry Teachers, Postsecondary
|Geography Teachers, Postsecondary
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|Median wages (2014)
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|Employment (2012)
|6,000 employees
|Projected growth (2012-2022)
|Average (8% to 14%)
|Projected job openings (2012-2022)
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|Top industries (2012)
Source: Bureau of Labor Statistics 2014 wage data and 2012-2022 employment projections . "Projected growth" represents the estimated change in total employment over the projections period (2012-2022). "Projected job openings" represent openings due to growth and replacement.
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Venturing on shoestring. I've been trying to find "sample adventures" that dont bust the wallet, but will give the crew a sense of what a full-blown outing would be like. That way they can decide if they want to pursue it further before shelling out money for something they may not really like: The best example i can come up with is getting the sampler platter at a restaurant, you can try smaller portions rather than taking a chance on the full-blown entree. I'm looking for ideas to fill that platter with.
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There is no typical Venturing outing. It is what you make of it. My daughter is in two Crews, one likes to get together and plan ski trips, hostel stays, beach trips. The other likes to go camping, and high adventure type activities. Search your neighboring councils for activites. Some will run weekends aimed at Venturing.
yeah, I'm starting to actually wonder what a venture crew would do in my area. Not near the mountains, so no skiing, no climbing (except the indoor gym or the local BSA camp), no white water....
I guess swimming, scuba, flat water paddling, hiking, man made climbing.... only so much....
Give us some definition of your shoestring . At the risk of being labeled a BSA shill, the Summit is offering such a sample platter starting this summer. But it's not inexpensive ($600+/person I believe). Our crew went to Latimer Scout Reservation a few years back for the whitewater. I think they offer other programs as well. Not sure of the cost.
EagleScout441 commented01-31-2014, 08:32 PMEditing a commentWhere are you at? I've been to Latimer multiple times, it's in my council: Middle Tennessee Council. And their whitewater is on the Ocoee River via Outland Expeditions.
shoestring, ideally less than $30 per single event, per day, like $25 5 hour standup paddleboard rental. The overpriced bsa events to me are just pre-planned group vacations. planning should be part of the experience.
Contact your local sportsmans club to see if they host any youth NRA certifications.
Field sports with a mix of large and small caliber rifles, shotgun, and pistol can be done in a 1/2 day on that kind of budget.
Cycling trails.
See if anyone has a family farm near a scenic trail.
Dutch oven cooking can be a big draw.
An evening at the go-cart track.
Heres an example of 3 of 4 shoestring outings combined into one high adventure 1 snowshoe day trip (cheap) 2 overnight backpack trip (cheap) 3 Overnight winter camp (cheap) 4 cross country sking (cheap) combined into a 2 night 3 day hike/snowshoe outing, in a state/national forrest, or even on a rail/trail
What part of the country are you in Baggss? I'm attending a 1hr lecture on this topic soon. I will share what I learn if it is pertinent.
Don't forget road trips. I've seen scouts from Michigan on the Minister Creek Trail in PA.
But for more ideas you might want to put your youth in touch with these guys: http://www.michiganscouting.org/Wate...s/WWnewVOA2014.
When I started as an advisor my VOA put my youth on to some great activities and opportunities.
Most people have bikes, you could plan a rural route or mountain bike. People that want to camp but not ride could be the ground crew to haul the equipment. If you don't like the ground crew idea have them haul everything they will need. This could be a great multi-day activity.
Turns out the class I took wasn't very helpful. I knew it was going downhill when the lecturer started asking, "So, what's a shoestring. Its different for different people" Specific treks were in the Texas and Colorado area from Houston. None were under $350/person. I was hoping for ideas of close by adventures for $50/person or something. (What I get for thinking).
Best thing I can add is to start looking at close by national parks or preserves. Sorry I wasn't much help.
KM, duration is the key factor here. A 10 day trip that comes to $35/person/day is pretty sweet.
This is why crews need to get together and share their exploits. Stuff that is advertized nationally has added expense. Local opportunities may come cheaper, but chances are you won't hear about them on the internet.
koolaidman commented02-09-2014, 12:25 PMEditing a commentYou are right about that. I was just hoping there would be some 3-4 day trips for $35/day discussed.
I have a few resources to look up that they handed out and I am a firm believer in there being no replacement for doing your own research, however, I was hoping at least one or two "mini-adventures" would be discussed. It was just a little disappointing that nothing was very relevant for my troop. (at least the canoe camping class panned out)


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