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Gratiot Central Market
Gratiot Central Market is an independently owned and operated building in the Eastern Market Business District. (313) 259-4486
Gratiot Central Market (GCM) was built in 1915 and its original use was for retail foods, primarily meat, as indicated by the three bull heads above the main doors. Aside from meat, one could also purchase dairy products, eggs, relishes (pickles and such), as well as canned goods and ethnic foods at Gratiot Central Market - to complement the produce sold in the sheds.
Until the I-75 freeway was built, the market was just across the street from the southernmost shed (Shed 1-now demolished), making it easy for the farmers, and customers to shop at GCM. To continue that tradition, a pedestrian walkway over the freeway currently connects the core of the market with the GCM.
The building was originally two stories and also housed a saloon and billiards hall. Two fires significantly altered the building - the first in 1967, resulted in the building being reconstructed as a one-story building. After the fire in 1995, almost the entire building was rebuilt. The only remaining part of the original building is the exterior terra cotta wall along Gratiot Avenue.
Today, the merchants at Gratiot Central Market continue the tradition of selling every kind of meat imaginable - from Amish chicken to yellow-fin tuna. In between, you can find:
- Beef - all kinds of steaks, roasts, ground beef, kabobs, and even oxtails
- Corned Beef - sold in Detroit by four generations of the same family
- Pork - all varieties of ribs, ham, chops, bacon, salt pork, ham hocks, and more
- Poultry - chicken (whole and parts), turkey, duck, Cornish hens, and eggs
- Specialty Meats - such as goat, homemade sausages, lunchmeats, cheeses, lamb, rabbit, chitterlings and tripe
- Fish - more than 16 varieties of fresh fish and your selection can be cooked for you
- Shellfish - from crab to clams, crawfish, lobster, scallops and shrimp
Additionally, Gratiot Central Market houses
- A bakery - making 13 kinds of cakes, 21 kinds of pies, and three kinds of cheesecake daily
- Barbeque supplies - large variety of sauces, spices, rubs, marinades, and batters
- Restaurants, take-away, health foods and more!
It's well worth the walk over the freeway to experience a true Detroit gem.
Typical Hours are*:
Monday - Thursday 8 am-5 pm
Friday - 8 am-6 pm
Saturday - 7 am-6 pm
Sunday - closed except before holidays and Lions game days
*Hours vary by vendor, call before you go. A complete list of businesses in the market district and the Gratiot Central Market can be found by clicking here.


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IRS spent $10,000 on 'Apprentice' video
(CNN) — The Internal Revenue Service released a new parody video to Congress on Friday, this time in the styling of Donald Trump's "The Apprentice."
The four-minute video was made for a 2011 Small Business/Self-Employed Division conference and cost $10,000 to produce. The IRS this year came under scrutiny for wasteful spending at conferences, including money spent on other training videos.
Those videos featured IRS employees learning how to dance the Cupid Shuffle and performing roles from Star Trek and Gilligan's Island. Combined, they cost tens of thousands of dollars.
The newly-released video features a group of employees in a dimly-lit board room setting, mimicking Trump's flagship program on NBC. Ironically, the SB/SE leaders sitting before the Trump impersonator were "fired" for failing to come up with enough good ideas to get CPE's (continuing professional education) credits without "spending a lot of travel money."
The low-quality production video was given to the House Ways and Means Committee, which has been investigating the IRS this year for its targeting of political groups as well as wasteful spending practices.
"Another day, another example of abuse and waste at the IRS. Months ago, I demanded the IRS come clean about the time and money it spent to produce these frivolous videos," said Rep. Charles Boustany Jr., chairman of the subcommittee on oversight.
"While we may have no answers, we do have an endless supply of what appears to be the IRS's idea of entertainment," he continued in a statement. "Whether it is wasteful conferences and videos or the inexcusable targeting of taxpayers based on their personal beliefs, there is nothing amusing about the American people footing the bill for this rogue and out of control agency."
The House Oversight and Government Reform Committee has also been probing the agency.
The IRS says the videos made in 2010 and 2011 "are from a prior era and do not reflect the stringent policies the IRS now has in place to ensure that all training videos are made at the lowest possible cost and with appropriate content."
"Simply put, these videos would not be made at the IRS today," the IRS said in a statement Friday, adding that video costs by IRS business units are down by 90% this year compared to a year ago.


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22. They Also Serve Who Stand and Wait
Edoras was bustling with activity by mid-afternoon. Although the sky remained cloud-streaked, the rain had ceased, and repair work had begun in earnest: warriors and common folk lent their hands—and backs, and shoulders, and knees—to clear the streets of the wreckage. The city's draft horses and ponies were put to good use hauling bricks and stone, and every so often, one would even see a war horse helping to pull timber from the still-smoldering ruin. The grim task of burying the dead continued, and the blockades and choke points that had been set up earlier were being dismantled, mostly by the women of Edoras. Merry frowned as he stared through the swirling mass of Rohirrim, unable, unless he lifted his eyes, to see much more than a blur of legs, and he wondered how many of them there were.
"How shall we cross without being trampled?" Pippin asked, voicing the question on both of their minds. At about noon, the pair had gone to pay a final visit to Bregalad, who had earlier told them that he and the Huorns would likely leave that afternoon. By then, the Entwood had already moved beyond the ruined gates to stand guard near Gimli's grave, for the Rohirrim could do little with the trees still in the middle of Edoras. Fearful of them, they would not dare the eaves, nor lead any horse through the wood.
"And perhaps they are right to stay away, for we have had too many accidents!" Bregalad had said mournfully. Most of the Rohirrim who had fallen or been thrown beneath the shadow of the trees had emerged more or less unscathed, but Gimli had not been the only ally to fall to the Huorns: some thirty Riders had been found dead of wounds that no orc could have inflicted. Neither Théoden King nor Aragorn, nor even Legolas had believed that such deaths were anything but accidental—the results of fatal panic or unintentional provocation—but most of the Rohirrim knew only that the forest was perilous and they refused to go near it. "Well, my hobbits," the Ent had said as he prepared to leave, "I shall miss you. And I wish you good fortune in the wide world, though the very earth groans with the hatred of war."
"Safe journey, Quickbeam," they had answered. "And thank you for your kindness!"
"I shall bear your greetings to the Eldest. Assure the king that the Ents shall take good care of the wizard. Fare you well!" And the Ent had lifted his hands to cup his mouth, and a great, resonant hrooom! had issued forth, halting all work as the Rohirrim looked up. And as all watched in amazement, leaves and branches had quivered, as if beneath a strong breeze, and then tremors had run up the trunks as the tree roots pulled themselves from the soil. A great, groaning sound had filled the air, and then the entire forest had begun to move almost as one, following Bregalad. Other Ents had appeared from the forest eaves and ranged themselves all about the trees as they called what was presumably encouragement. Or else directions. They're like great sheepdogs! Merry had thought. Very swift they were, and it had not been not long ere the entish herd had disappeared, leaving only a path of turned soil in its wake. For some time after that, the two hobbits had sat upon the ground beside Gimli's grave, and an oddly silent pair they had been. None had disturbed them, and save for the arrival of a pair of riders out of the north-west, who seemed to cause quite a stir among the Rohirrim, work continued uninterrupted, forming an oddly lulling backdrop to the hobbits' silent thoughts. But as noon had passed and the sun had sunk steadily westward, they had risen, intending to return to the guesthouse and find their friends.
Now, though, as they stood just below the square where Aragorn and Éomer had made their final stand, they were at a loss. For not only had they the work parties—which seemed to include every able-bodied inhabitant of the city who was not already on guard duty—to contend with, but it seemed that the guard detail was changing shifts. "We could try the back ways," Merry suggested, and glanced sharply at his cousin when Pippin snorted.
"After the Old Forest, I'm not sure I trust your short cuts, Merry," the other replied. "Besides, they haven't finished tearing down all the barricades that Strider and what's his name— the marshal— put up!"
"True enough. But do you really want to wait for all that to clear?" Merry swept an arm to encompass the crowd, then jumped back as a Rohirrim—a child, by the looks of him, though already he was a good foot taller than either of the hobbits— swerved aside suddenly, guiding a laden, dark-spotted pony on a short lead rein.
"Cum, Blæcig!" the lad shouted over his shoulder, encouraging the beast, and apparently oblivious to the hobbits' existence. Further up the road, more calls could be heard, and as the hobbits stared, vainly seeking to discover the cause of the commotion, a gap opened in the crowd. Merry and Pippin cast a quick glance at each other, but did not hesitate. Darting forward, they dodged Rohirrim as they sought to take advantage of the momentary clearing.
"Ha! Git ætstande!" Someone snatched at them, but lost his grip, and the hobbits' momentum had them flying forward into the middle of the street in spite of themselves. "Reccelaesan bearn!"
"Reckless... what?" Merry glanced about... and then cried out in alarm, shoving Pippin forward as he put on a burst of speed. The cart driver cursed as he passed, but held his course, calling out sharply to the horse. Almost instantly, the Rohirrim filled the street in his wake, though those nearest the hobbits paused to inspect them, and Merry's ears rang with their voices. "Pip?"
"I'm all right... um... thank you...?" Pippin offered in response to the flurry of Rohirric, staring uncertainly up at the concerned, and sometimes glowering, faces of those who crowded about him. Some of the Rohirrim were eyeing the pair skeptically, as if uncertain what to make of them; others were chattering at them in what seemed soothing tones.
"Styrath!" At the sound of that voice, the knot of people shifted quite abruptly, and Merry and Pippin looked up. A tall woman stood there, gazing down at them expressionlessly, and from her clothing, which seemed very fine despite its being trousers and a tunic, made her a noblewoman, surely. "Hwæs bearn sind éow?" she asked, kneeling down on one knee, the better to look them in the face.
"Whose... ? I beg your pardon, milady, but did you ask whose we were?" Merry asked, being careful to speak very slowly and distinctly. The woman blinked, and her brow furrowed thoughtfully as she looked them up and down, eyes narrowing slightly. Merry chewed the inside of his lip gently, wondering if she had understood a word. It seemed that between them, the hobbits and Rohirrim understood enough of each other's speech to know that they missed much in conversation. But usually, if the hobbits spoke slowly enough, someone would understand, though it seemed not to work half as well the other way around.
"I did," she answered after a beat, and although her Common was pleasantly accented, it came quite easily to her as she spoke. "But it seems that the question was ill-put. You are not children, surely, if you do not speak Rohirric. Gá heonon, god folc." She raised her voice slightly, and the others dispersed. When they were more or less alone, given the crowded conditions of the square, she continued, "If you be not children, then what are you, if I may ask?"
"Hobbits, my lady. We came with the Ents," Pippin replied, and then paused, gazing with great interest at her pale, shapely face and golden hair. "You speak very well, if you don't mind my saying so."
"Pippin!" Merry hissed, appalled. But the woman only smiled slightly at that, seeming unoffended.
"Thank you. And for one who speaks not my tongue, you understood well enough my meaning, Master Hobbit," she replied, shifting her attention back to Merry. "How are you called?"
"Meriadoc Brandybuck, my lady. Or Merry, if you like. And this is Peregrin Took, my cousin," Merry answered.
"And I am Éowyn, Éomund's daughter," she replied. "So you came with the Ents, yet now that they are gone, you remain. Why?"
"Well, we found our friends here, so there is little reason to stay."
"Ah. Then you are the friends that Prince Legolas spoke of, I guess," Éowyn said, her tone sharpening with interest.
"You know him?" Pippin asked hopefully.
"Aye, a little. Come you with me, and we shall away to find him, then," Éowyn declared, rising. "Stay close! It is quite a crush." So saying, she strode into the crowd, and the hobbits hastened to keep up with her long stride. Fortunately, despite the close quarters, the Rohirrim seemed miraculously to melt away before her, leaving the three of them a clear path. Merry could not quite understand the polite-sounding murmurs that floated after her, but he guessed that Éowyn must be a high lady, indeed, to merit such deference. He and Pippin did their best to ignore the many curious stares turned upon them, trying not to embarrass their guide, though Merry felt his cheeks heat in response to the attention. At length, they came to the inner keep, and Éowyn was admitted with scarcely a second glance. The courtyard beyond was quieter, though certainly not empty, and the hobbits relaxed somewhat.
"Where are you taking us, Lady Éowyn?" Merry asked.
"To Meduseld, the king's high hall, where you shall find Prince Legolas, among others. My brother is there, and my uncle. And Lord Aragorn, whom you must also know, if you are friends with the prince," she replied, glancing down at him for confirmation.
"Aye, we do," Merry replied, wondering at her matter-of-fact response. Surely not just anyone walks into a king's hall! "Is your uncle a counselor?" he asked after a moment.
"Nay, nay, he is no counselor," Éowyn laughed, but her tone hardened slightly as she continued. "My uncle is Théoden King."
"The king?" Pippin blurted out, staring wide-eyed up at her. "But then... what were you doing down there?"
"Pip!" Merry nearly groaned, although in truth, he had been wondering the same thing. Fortunately, Éowyn seemed made of sterner stuff than the princesses in the tales his mother had read to him when he had been a boy.
"I went to escort Gríma from the city," she replied, and Merry frowned at the queer note of grim satisfaction in her voice. "And it seems it was well that I did, else we might not have met."
"But you were alone," Merry protested.
"Master Wormtongue rode in the cart that nearly crushed you," she informed them dryly.
"Oh." A pause. "But I saw no one but the driver. Although, I suppose I hadn't the chance to look closely... wait a moment!" Merry frowned again, and more deeply, thinking over his blurred impressions of that harrowing crossing.
"The dead are accustomed to lie in a box, Master Brandybuck. Doubtless that is why you missed him. Do not concern yourself overmuch," Éowyn replied, and now there was no mistaking the steel in her voice. "He was a traitor, and deserves no one's good remembrance. This way!" She climbed the steps that led to the hall, nodding when she reached the guards before the doors. A few words she spoke, gesturing to the hobbits, and then she beckoned them onward. "Come! 'Tis not far now."
"Do you know what they're talking about, your uncle and our friends?" Pippin asked, skipping a bit to catch up as Éowyn lengthened her stride a bit more. "Do you know what happens next?"
"Many things, doubtless. Edoras' people must be defended, and the muster continues to build, for the summons will have spread throughout the land. An army must be fed and housed, and such matters do not happen of their own accord. And of course, we must prepare for battle."
"Again?" Pippin protested, amazed. "But you just won!"
"Would that it were so simple, Master Took," Éowyn replied, wryly. "But the messengers who arrived perhaps an hour ago brought news that indeed, Saruman has forces still at Helm's Deep. My uncle's man encountered one of those whom I had earlier sent out, and learned that the wizard had indeed left a part of his forces there, just as Éomer suspected he would. Thus we must move swiftly to relieve the besieged--this very evening, I should think." Arriving at a spiraling staircase, she began to climb it, moving briskly, and the hobbits hurried after her.
"How far must we ride?"
"It is some day and a half's swift journey by horse," she answered easily.
"Another battle," Pippin sighed, and Éowyn quirked a fine, pale brow at him. The hobbit shrugged slightly in response to that look, which seemed puzzled, and explained, "We are not warriors, Merry and I. I fear we do not look forward to another fight."
"And yet you speak as if you would follow my brother and your friends to a war."
"Well, it is simply that... well, we have not been much use, I suppose you could say," Merry said, feeling rather awkward beneath Éowyn's gaze, which was at once solemn and yet oddly eager. "There must surely be something that we could do, and in truth, we would not be parted from them again. Not unless we must!"
"Then you would go for your honor, and to honor your friends. That is reason enough," Éowyn declared. "And here we are!" she added, as they approached a door with guards to either side. Even as they slowed, however, it opened, and out of it came Háma and Éomer, followed by Strider and Legolas. The two Rohirrim spoke quietly in their own tongue, and Strider, although he spoke with the Elf, seemed to be listening as well to the Rohirric conversation. How does he do that? Merry wondered, realizing that the Ranger was speaking Sindarin at that. And then a certain dread crept over him, for Aragorn rarely used the elven tongue unless he wished to keep something between himself and Legolas, or between himself and Gandalf. What now?
"Éomer!" Éowyn said just then, and her brother looked up. "Excuse me," she said to the hobbits, and then went to place herself in the Third Marshal's path. Was it Merry's imagination, or did the two Men tense up at that, as if they would rather be anywhere else at just this moment? An odd sort of lady, she. Not like I would imagine, and nothing like an Elflady, but a high-hearted one nonetheless, I think. I wonder what could make her brother flinch like that? But that is not our business, I suppose, though I daresay I could find out if I set my mind to it. Turning to the remainder of the Fellowship, he and Pippin went quickly to join them, and at least their friends seemed glad to see them.
"Merry. Pippin," Strider greeted them. "How have you fared?"
"Well enough, save for a bit of trouble getting here through that crowd," Pippin replied. "I don't know how you Big Folk manage! Don't you ever get in each other's ways?" That inspired a chuckle, and Strider and Legolas exchanged a look.
"No more than hobbits at a birthday party, I should imagine," Strider answered. "But what brings you here?"
"Éowyn brought us," Pippin replied, and then glanced at Merry.
"She told us that we would be riding to another battle, at some place called Helm's Deep," Merry said, gazing intently up at Legolas and Aragorn.
"Indeed, that is Théoden's intention, and we leave within the hour," Legolas replied. "If we are fortunate, it shall be a short contest. We should be able to pin the enemy shall be between our forces and the Deeping Wall, at least, since the Dike is breached, according to the messengers."
"As for the rest, they go to Dunharrow, for Edoras' defenses are largely destroyed. There, even a small force might hold out for long against many, should it come to that," Aragorn added. And Merry, hearing this, narrowed his eyes as he thought through what he had just been told, and came to one conclusion.
"You're going to send us to Dunharrow, aren't you?" he asked, feeling his heart sink with the certainty of it. "You don't want us to come with you."
"It will be safer there," the Ranger replied, and although his tone held no apology, his eyes told of regretful sympathy. Pippin and Merry shot each other identical looks of disbelieving disappointment, before Pippin protested.
"But we want to come with you! And we've been in four fights already! Five, if you count Weathertop."
"None of which were anything like a pitched battle between armies," Aragorn replied, kneeling down, the better to see eye to eye, or as close as he could get, given the disparity in their heights. "Listen to me! We have been terribly fortunate thus far, for we have been far outnumbered and overmatched in all but one instance. Only the will of our enemies or a fortuitous accident has kept the lot of us alive. Even so, we have lost Gandalf, Boromir, and Gimli. Moreover, the Rohirrim are cavalry men by preference. Could you wield a lance from the back of a horse?"
"You could put us down," Merry began, and then sighed, seeing almost immediately the flaw in that logic. If we cannot even manage in the courts below, how would we manage all alone amidst orcs and horses?
"I am sorry, Merry, but this is not a battle for infantry, unless very skilled. At Dunharrow, we shall meet again, if fate is kind."
"Fear not, my friends," Legolas said, quietly, and something in the Elf's voice commanded immediate attention, not only from the hobbits, but from Strider as well. "You were chosen for this Fellowship, and not without reason. You will find your purpose, or it shall find you. We are all but the instruments of the Age."
"Well, I wish the Age would hurry up and figure out what to do with hobbit-shaped instruments!" Pippin muttered, pulling a sour face, but after a moment he offered a slight smile. "It doesn't sound quite so bad when you put it that way, I suppose. So long as we do have one, that is."
"When do we leave?" Merry asked.
"Éowyn shall tell you, as Théoden would have her lead the people while he is away," Strider replied, dragging his eyes from Legolas' face. And it seemed to the hobbit that he was troubled, though why, Merry could not tell. "If you would have a purpose, keep the White Lady of Rohan out of trouble!" said he, casting a significant look at the trio of Rohirrim, who still stood talking together in low, but intense, voices.
"We'll do our best. But do come back," Merry replied, eyeing his taller companions quite seriously.
"Rest easy, then, for a wretched few orcs are but pennies in the payment I intend to collect," Legolas responded, and the hobbits shivered slightly. How so fair a voice could produce so grim a note and yet be beautiful was a mystery Merry refused to contemplate too deeply. He still felt cold inside when he remembered that awful, keening lament over Gimli's body. "Fare you well, and we shall meet again in Dunharrow!" The Prince of Mirkwood smiled a smile frighteningly suited to his tone of voice, and then made them a bow ere he swept off down the hall.
"Lest you believe it a jest, do watch the lady Éowyn. I think she may need friends in the days to come, with Éomer and Théoden away," Strider said in an undertone, and smiled slightly when they nodded.
"You seem tired, still, Strider, if you don't mind my saying it," Merry said, worried. "Are you certain that you should go?"
"Such weariness as I feel comes more from the heart than from the body, and I shall not let it affect me in battle. Still, I would envy you your place in Dunharrow, if only I could. Until we meet again, my friends," he replied, rising to follow Legolas. The hobbits stared after him glumly, and then Pippin sighed.
"How many days did she say? One and a half? So three days altogether just getting there and coming back, and that assuming Dunharrow isn't much further!"
"We'll manage. We shall have to, and maybe Éowyn could find us something useful to do. Surely it must need a lot of hands to keep so many people in order!"
"I suppose," Pippin replied, sounding unconvinced.
"Well then, let's not think too much on it, shall we? Come on, Pip, they'll be back soon," Merry said, determinedly, just as the meeting of Rohirrim broke up. The two men followed in the wake of Aragorn and Legolas, leaving Éowyn standing there, gazing at the hobbits with a rueful smile and eyes like ice... if ice could burn.
"It would seem that we three shall be companions for awhile, or so say your faces, and doubtless mine as well," she said at length. "Come then! There is much to do, and I would not have any say that we stood idle while others fought." Holding out her hands to them, she beckoned, and they came. Éowyn's grip was firm, and Merry was surprised to feel the calluses on her palms and fingers. As rough as Strider's hands, and almost as strong, he thought, gazing up at her. Not an ordinary lady, this one! Well, I thought I could figure her out if I had time. I suppose now I'll have the chance to do so. Somewhat heartened by that thought, he let Éowyn lead him through the passages of Meduseld, and hoped that the mystery would keep him too busy to worry about absent friends.***
It was somewhat more than an hour later that Aragorn sat his horse at the head of the waiting ranks of Riders. Evening would come all too soon, but Théoden was determined that they should make a start, and the steeds of the Mark, at least, would be fresh. A little ways away, Legolas perched, having found a horse to suit him and rid himself of the hated bridle and saddle. They had argued, after leaving the hobbits, about his participation in the next battle, but the elf would not be gainsaid.
"I am not beholden to you, Aragorn; now I know what it is that ails me, I will be well enough to do what honor–to say nothing of affection–requires. Already, I had learned sufficient to risk the walls, and I was no danger to the men about me," Legolas had said firmly, green eyes flashing. It had been the capstone to a rather difficult meeting, for with a brief space between battles, it had fallen at last to Aragorn to explain something of the business of the Fellowship that had led them to the Mark. He had felt Legolas' eyes upon him for the omission of all mention of the Song, but the elf had apparently decided that there was some wisdom in silence on that matter. Nevertheless, it had been an uncomfortable hour, and the argument afterward had not improved his mood. Aragorn had been forced eventually to bow to Legolas' decision, but he was hardly happy to see the other take up a position in line now.
At length, Théoden appeared, with Éomer trailing in his wake. The King of the Mark nodded gravely to him, and Aragorn returned the gesture. I should not argue Legolas' place in this line if I am unwilling to argue Théoden's, he told himself, striving for equitability. For certainly, Théoden was no warrior in his prime; age was an ill that none could cure, nor could a few days in the saddle suffice for a man to recover all his strength. But when Éomer, during their conference earlier that afternoon, had suggested that Théoden should ride to Dunharrow, the king had replied, "If what Aragorn has told us this day of the meaning of the Rhyme of Imladris is true, then it is not meet that I remain. For I am old, my son–yes, I name you so now, for you have been as a son for many years, and Théodred now is gone–and though I would it were otherwise, I have but little left to give, and I owe much. Such prudence as I have for governance–this was meant for another time, and I grieve that I used it not these last years, when I might have done so and so honored what the years have given me. Therefore I shall ride." To that, none had been able to muster an objection.
The King of the Mark now made his way to the head of the mass of horsemen, turning his charger and standing in the stirrups to survey the éored, and also the people who had gathered at the ruined gates, including Éowyn, accompanied by two small figures at her side. Gold-chased armor gleamed in the shafts of weak, afternoon sunlight and a ruddy light shone in his white braids. A sunset king for the world's eventide, Aragorn could not help but think, though he was quick to thrust that thought aside as memory turned elsewhere, across the leagues to Lórien and another who bore the sunset in her name. Shall you come again? Arwen's voice whispered in his mind, and Aragorn drew a deep breath as he raised a hand, returning the farewell waves of Merry and Pippin. Until Dunharrow, he thought once more, and resolutely.
And then the horns blew, and Théoden reared his horse, that all might see as he pointed west and cried: "For Helm's Deep!"
"For Helm's Deep and Théoden King!" chorused the men. From the gates they thundered forth, and the sound resounded in the land, long after the Riders had been swallowed in the sunset's brilliance.
Thanks again to HF for correcting the OE.
For I am old, my son–yes, I name you so now, for you have been as a son for many years—cf. "The Muster of Rohan", TTT, 78
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Re: Dinosaur Science Robot Slogan
A collaboration with walmazan!
Re: Cute Science Oddball Slogan
I'm Quarky!
Re: Pop Culture Movie Pun Slogan
Alternate Title: "The Fortune Cookiee"
A collaboration with kevlar!
Re: Pop Culture Video Games Japan Retro
Alternate Title: "Heart Invaders"
p.s. Space Invaders was invented and originally sold in Japan
Re: Cute-Science-Pun-Slogan
This usually happens whenever I tighten down bolts...
Re: Cute-Movie-Japan-Myth
Cute (Chibi style), Movie (Gizmo from Gremlins), Japan (Sanrio), Myth (mogwai demons from chinese culture)
Re: Cute-Bird-Japan-Space
Sumeba miyako.
Japanese saying.
Meaning: Wherever you live, you come to love it.
Re: Food-Television-Tech-Space (AKA Starch Trek)
My entry is Food (Bread) / Television (Star Trek) / Tech (Phaser) / Space (Stars)
You can see a larger version on my blog: http://henrysniff.tumblr.com/image/44850847267
Re: Yellow Ocarina (fantasy video-games Japan retro)
This is something I worked on with DroidLoot aka dbenton25. fantasy video-games Japan retro OR pop-culture music Japan retro. Probably even a few more.
Re: pop-culture, one-color, pun, slogan
Do you like being asked silly questions? Of course you don't, that was a silly question. You hate (8) them. Wear this one-color, slogan t-shirt to express your dislike of them while also explaining how you will answer them.
Re: Wrong Robots!(Pop culture-movie-robot-space)
we love pop-culture, we love movies, we love robots and of course, we love space!hope you like the miscellany!!
Re: Retro Music Injury Animals
He went out tiger hunting with his elephant and gun
In case of accidents he always took his mum
He's the all American bullet-headed Saxon mother's son
All the children sing
Hey, Bungalow Bill
What did you kill
Bungalow Bill?
This is a reworking of an old derby entry that I always loved. I fixed the trunk, gun, hands, belt, shading, and coloring. I hope those changes are considered "significant" enough to prevent rejection.
Re: scifi-science-robot-space
2 colors on navy
Re: (An-SP-Rob-Slo) Steampunk Faux Nouveau
Been out for a few weeks (more to do than hours to do them), but glad I could participate this week!
Re: Water Bird Fire Myth
In Chinese Mythology, the Pangu Legend describes the creation of the world through the balance of yin and yang. The chaos of the universe began to come together in a "cosmic egg" where they eventually came into balance and Pangu emerged. His job was the form a perfect balanced world.
Our entry this week is a take on that myth. The two mythical birds of water and fire, circle one another to eventually bring form to the void of chaos.
Here's the big version!
Re: Pop-Culture Television Robot Propaganda
Based on the popular tv show Battlestar galactica, about robots (referred to as toasters)...in propaganda form.
I'm a bit sick today and I almost couldn't finish this Hope you like it
Re: Cute - One-color - Japan - History
??? Is this what I think it is?
apalooza wrote:This is something I worked on with DroidLoot aka dbenton25. fantasy video-games Japan retro OR pop-culture music Japan retro. Probably even a few more.
An ocarina is a real instrument.
Do you think it was rejected because I mention the Zoras?
Re: FOOD - TREE - ODDBALL - HISTORY
abichler wrote:An ocarina is a real instrument.
Do you think it was rejected because I mention the Zoras?
*it mentions
Re: Dinosaur-movie-pun-slogan
Hipster Park. An adventure a few hours in the making!
A collaboration between myself and DsgnGrl.
Just change it to 'Forget Gravity' or something. I'll buy your shirt when you win.
Re: Animals-One Color-Japan-Forest
A lone samurai
Riding a great bear spirit
Is no easy prey
Yeah, proper nouns from fictional works never get through.
Really? A cute nuclear explosion?
Re: food - movie - tech - slogan
wirdou wrote:I'm a bit sick today and I almost couldn't finish this Hope you like it
I'm glad you finished it. It's very cute.
Rejected, really? Too much history? Too much factual evidence? Too funny? Lol, I come to expect this anymore...
Re: Animals - Bird - Math - History
A) Dodos are cool.
B) This made me snort-giggle.
When I saw the thumbnail I immediately recognized Kevlar. It was a nice surprise seeing it was a collab between you two.
Re: food-videogames-pun-retro
I love this. And I love it with the F*ck. It's f*cking great.
Daaaang! +1
mapinto wrote:Rejected, really? Too much history? Too much factual evidence? Too funny? Lol, I come to expect this anymore...
Total lack of sensitivity would be more likely. The destruction and death of 200,000+ citizen isn't really 'cute'.
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Am i the only one who doesn't know what an unwinder does?
Phoronix: Apple Open-Sources Its Unwinder For LLVM
Earlier this week there was the news of Intel contributing their OpenMP Runtime to LLVM in order to advance the open-source compiler project. Now to end off the week is news that Apple, who continues to invest significantly into LLVM and employs many of the key contributors, has open-sourced their stack unwinder for the project...
Am i the only one who doesn't know what an unwinder does?
"Unwinding" in general means going back up the stack trace and properly setting up everything - in a debugger, for example, you can go back up the stack trace to see where code is being called from, and at each point you can see local variables that are set in that function rather than what is set at the point where your breakpoint is at.Most architectures now use "zero cost" exceptions for C++. The zero cost means there are no extra instructions executed if no exceptions are thrown. But if an exception is thrown, the runtime must consult side tables and figure out how to restore registers and "unwind" from the current stack frame to the catch clause. That ability to modify the stack frames and cause the thread to resume in a catch clause with all registers restored properly is the main purpose of libunwind.
Here are the sources :
Must be a typo, though, since everyone knows that companies never contribute to BSD-licensed code.</sarcasm>Apple's unwind code uses the same low-level APIs for the unwind functions but do not share code with the old libunwind. Apple pushed their unwinder code into the LLVM libcxxabi sub-project and is under the LLVM and MIT licenses.
But it's far from a complete rewrite, in fact if I understand correctly, the only new thing is that Apple has agreed to dual license the code so it can be included in the LLVM's libcxxabi project... but it was already opensource, so this is:
Apple double license Its already opensourced Unwinder For LLVM


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Lockout 2012-2013 (Hockey's back!)
Posted 07 December 2012 - 04:12 PM
its the owners protecting the owners from THEMSELVES!!!!
I freakin g'tee LL would NEVER have given Kovy that contract.. GUARAN_FREAKIN-TEE!!
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Posted 07 December 2012 - 04:25 PM
My favorite part of this is trying to limit contract to 5 years, how about just offersing 5 year deals, no one forced the shmo from Minn to offer those ridiculous contrascts, HE chose to do it, now he wants out of them?
The first part is easy enough to say in theory but is literally impossible...unless you outlaw contracts beyond five years, there's 'always' going to be someone that does it to get an edge. Twenty-nine teams can decide no and all it takes is one to do it. And if there isn't then the players will cry collusion, especially since there's 90 such contracts now. It'd be pretty fishy if all of a sudden that stopped now without term limits.
The second part I agree on...Leipold can't be crying about getting a rollback on deals he signed three months ago.
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Posted 07 December 2012 - 04:33 PM
And how are these fvcking CBAs NOT trying to fix the price of labor? Call a spade a spade. It's not about the players it's about league FIXING LABOR COSTS.
"You're really over simplifying here -- according to Johnson vs Johnson-Tugger..." blah blah blah -- I DONT CARE AT THE MOMENT!
They are and they aren't. It all stems from the Supreme Court's decisions in baseball where it was held that baseball was a game and not "commerce" and hence exempt from the antitrust laws, even though the second time around the majority basically admitted it was disingenous, but decided to stick with precedent. In response, baseball players formed a union and threatened to strike if a deal wasn't reached through collective bargaining, which is eventually what happened and created free agency as we know it today. Although the Supreme Court stated specifically that its decision applied only to baseball and not other sports, the other leagues decided dealing with a union was preferable to a totally free labor market. Basically, unions make more sense for relatively unskilled workers who would get lower wages if they couldn't horizontally collude (which is really what a union is, no offense to union workers). That's why you don't see CEOs forming unions.
As I noted though, even with decertification, it might eventually turn out that owners could fix labor prices despite the antitrust laws on the grounds that the law should be different when the product is competition. The argument hasn't been tested, and it would take a few years for it to work its way through the courts. In the meantime, like Bleakhouse, a bunch of lawyers will get very rich.
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Posted 07 December 2012 - 04:34 PM
Linked HRR and the cap already 'fixed' labor costs, contract limits just control the length of deals.
Where were the people who are crying about the owners being unfair to the players now when HRR was 71%, the canadian dollar plummeted and franchises were dying on the vine? I guess it's okay when the players get every dollar they can and don't apologize for it while the league's in trouble but heaven forbid the owners want 50-50 and contract limits.
They're still around, trust me - anyone in favor of decertifying the NHL permanently is in this camp. But absolutely no one forces the owner's hand to sign on the line that is dotted. The owner controls the ability to sign or not sign players. The trouble is, the owner is terrible at hiring a general manager who is A: competent to make those decisions or B: the owner doesn't care about the long term, he wants to win now, at any cost.
Under the old system, it was basically an awful idea to sign anyone over 31. Their prices were through the roof. Lou only signed Stevens, McKay, and Daneyko, pretty much - he let everyone else significant walk at that age, and people around here gnashed their teeth, but it was the only way a team on a budget could conduct itself. He's still let plenty of guys walk now, and while the amount by which they are a bad bargain is less, they are still, generally, a bad bargain.
So what is wrong with NHL owners that they cannot control their spending? Why is July 1 a feeding frenzy and not like baseball where it takes several months for players to get settled?
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Posted 07 December 2012 - 04:53 PM
Linked HRR and the cap already 'fixed' labor costs, contract limits just control the length of deals.
Where were the people who are crying about the owners being unfair to the players now when HRR was 71%, the canadian dollar plummeted and franchises were dying on the vine? I guess it's okay when the players get every dollar they can and don't apologize for it while the league's in trouble but heaven forbid the owners want 50-50 and contract limits.
Honestly -- strawman as we love to say here. This isn't abut what the players are demanding. it's what owners are demanding of other owners and they're hi-jacking the players to do so. How you can not honestly see that's what this comes down to is beyond me. It's owners manufacturing a common enemy so they can collude pretty much.
Seriously -- this has nothing to do with the players and never has. They dummass players will take whatever they get because they're priorities are all fvcked up in the name of hockey. I was an actor so I can relate. I may sound harsh but it's the truth of the matter. unions are to save players from totally killing themselves and regretting it later. it is protecting the stupid just like AEA AFTRA and SAG. And still actors find a way to get themselves exploited.
No... this isn't a strike. It's players getting dragged along for a really fvcking sh!tty ride by a bunch of whining boys who have no respect for the real game of hockey. The "poor" teams whine and cry and say they're not being treated fairly -- on it's just total crap. We all know.
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Posted 07 December 2012 - 04:55 PM
So I'm curious, what happens if the union decertifies and loses in court?
If it's actual decertification...then probably a year or so's already gone by and they literally have no play left than to accept whatever terms the league wants. If it's the 'disclaimer of interest' (decertification lite I dub it), then they still have no card left to play and just cut the best deal they can ala the NFL.
I think disclaimer of interest is a waste of time anyway, it got thrown out of court in the NFL and the NHL's going to have an even harder time getting judges to take it seriously when it's been in the papers for weeks and followed the 'script' to a tee. Not to mention they wouldn't negotiate for more than a day without Fehr in the room, now they're supposed to be taken seriously when they want to break off the union? Actual decertification is inputting the nuclear launch codes and wasn't what happened in the other leagues.
Honestly -- strawman as we love to say here. This isn't abut what the players are demanding. it's what owners are demanding of other owners and they're hi-jacking the players to do so. How you can not honestly see that's what this comes down to is beyond me. It's owners manufacturing a common enemy so they can collude pretty much.
And I'm supposed to feel bad for the players getting 5-7 year term guaranteed contracts? Even the president doesn't get a five-year term, much less normal working schmoes What this lockout is about is the league wanting an NBA system they don't particularly need and Fehr wanting a baseball system he can't have and both sides convinced of their own moral superiority and invincibility.
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Posted 07 December 2012 - 05:04 PM
IT'S JUST ASKING. It's the right to ask for somethign the owners are more than willing to give even if it kills their payroll.
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Posted 07 December 2012 - 05:12 PM
I would like to see Cam fight Bettman on the ice before the puck drops on opening night...
Other than that I am just done...
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Posted 07 December 2012 - 05:51 PM
Just consider Ilya Kovalchuk, there's no way he gets a 100 million dollar contract from the Devils if it means he carries a 11 million dollar cap hit next year. His smaller cap hit has extra value to a franchise and it's creating distortions in the player labor marketplace.
But I don't think the solution is to limit max contract lengths. I think the solution is to change how the cap hit is calculated.
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Posted 07 December 2012 - 06:05 PM
I'm kind of sympathetic to the owners on the issue of contract lengths. It's not as simple as just "Player A is worth a 100 million dollar contract and the owners are trying to limit his worth." The long term contracts come from the fact that "Player A is worth 12 million dollars a year in physical money but only if his cap hit only 6 million dollars a year." The NHL's system of calculating cap hit is creating a problem for owners where there's an incentive in agreeing to risky long term deals, since you're trying to assemble the greatest group of players for the smallest cap hit possible and Player A is worth more to your franchise if his cap hit is smaller.
Just consider Ilya Kovalchuk, there's no way he gets a 100 million dollar contract from the Devils if it means he carries a 11 million dollar cap hit next year. His smaller cap hit has extra value to a franchise and it's creating distortions in the player labor marketplace.
But I don't think the solution is to limit max contract lengths. I think the solution is to change how the cap hit is calculated.
I don't disagree but owners want contract lengths for two reasons (besides the whole more control and nudging players to stay with their current teams thing)...number one the fact insurance doesn't cover more than five years on a contract anymore, and number two without cap hit variance all of a sudden players are going to demand more money per year. Over the long haul most of the big players who this would affect probably wind up getting more with two five-year deals than with the one ten-year deal except of course in the case of injury or the rare guy who falls off a cliff.
The funny part is there was one five+ year contract before this CBA, if they'd somehow slipped term limits in nobody would have batted an eyebrow, but since there's ninety of these deals now it's become the hill we die on. And players already proposed eight-year lengths so term limits will be a fact, it's just a matter of where it ends.
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Posted 07 December 2012 - 06:31 PM
number one the fact insurance doesn't cover more than five years on a contract anymore
If they fix the screwed up incentive teams have for giving long term deals to avoid cap hit, then this won't be a problem. There's a reason we didn't have over 5 year contracts before the last CBA and that's because of reasons like this, it's risky to give out contracts longer than 5 years. It's just the potential cap savings made it worth it to so many teams. (Btw I'm trusting you on this, I don't know for myself how exactly insurance works)
number two without cap hit variance all of a sudden players are going to demand more money per year.
Isn't this obviously going to happen if you limit contract lengths to 5 years? Suppose Player A gets to choose between 5 years / 10 million per and 6 years / 9 million per. What contract is better for the owner? For Player A? Why remove that contract option in allowing teams to build? Now the teams are forced to pay more per year with shorter contract lengths because they can't compensate instead with future salary. I don't get how this is necessarily even good for the owners.
The problem is how cap hit is calculated. If they solve that, then a lot of the issues of long term contracts go away.
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Posted 07 December 2012 - 06:40 PM
I completely agree with that stance, it's not about limiting or protecting the owners from themselves, but from other owners also. The idea that a 5 year limit is fair or even remotely make sense is asinine. If they could do 6yr out of franchise 8 year in franchise I don't see how that can't be acceptable on both sides of the argument. I actually LOVE the fact that the owning franchise can offer a slightly longer deal to keep a prized player.
For those saying what the NHL is offering is more then fair, the players aren't losing much, they already lost $XXX and should just sign so they can play. I get that, it's not a HUGE downfall for what they're getting with the old CBA. This isn't all about what the players are making today, next season, or hell 5 seasons from now. This also has to be about the future players. If they agree to a 5yr contract limit now the owners will NEVER give that up. The players will never get that back, along with whatever else they agree to "just to play hockey and get NHL back on TV for our viewing pleasure". It. Will. Be. Lost. FOREVER. Not this CBA or maybe the next CBA. FOREVER. No matter how trivial some of it sounds to us as a fanbase, it for the future of the NHLPA.
Let's say they gave in to a 5 year contract limit this CBA just to get a deal done. What stops the owners, maybe even not the next CBA, or even the one after that. Hell maybe 15-20 years from now saying...you know what? Not good enough anymore....25%HRR for players, 3yr contract length, and 24% roll back on salaries. Oh, you don't like that idea...to bad you're locked out then. That's never happened right? They would NEVER roll back salaries, not guarantee signed contracts, roll back HRR% or start limiting contracts, or limit them even further like the NBA just did. Nope never.
Listen I'm as anxious for hockey as much as the next fan, but I sure as sh!t don't want the players to roll over and get back to work if it literally may fvck the rest of the future players for years to come. Those complaining about the 5% who have contracts over 5 years? Really...they already have their lifetime contracts...you honestly think they give a sh!t about themselves??? No, they're thinking of the future.
Oh and not to get fvcked over by Gary Bettman once again. Nice temper tantrum last night Gary, rivals even my 4yr old when I turn off the PS3 on him...
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Henrik Lundqvist
"I think it's embarrassing that we haven't been able to agree with the owners. It's embarrassing to people who follow the sport and live their lives around hockey. We have a responsibility towards them. I can think the owners have a big part of it (the conflict) but both sides have to take responsibility for it"
Hopefully more smart guys among the players will start to get involved and make their voices heard. I'm not sure an all out internal war against Fehr would be good at this stage (but it would be entertaining). I think the fastest solution is if the moderates push for a deal while allowing Fehr to save face.
I hate him, but hes spot on
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Posted 07 December 2012 - 08:17 PM
The players can't cave at this point. It has to be their agreement. They gave way too much in the last CBA and they've offered to give away a ton again. This is a profitable league the way it stands. If the NHL has teams losing money it's their problem and has nothing to do with the players. The players have given enough. There shouldn't be teams in Nashville, Phoenix, Florida and so on. You could even argue New Jersey (I know... just saying...) Bettman and co. are at fault for the locations of these franchises. This isn't about us as fans this is about the players and their payers. The owners can't control themselves from themselves and that is why we are where we are. It has nothing to do with the players. The players have given plenty.
I love the "It's not Bettman, he's just a voice for the owners" comments I see everywhere. Yeah, you're right...he's hired to do the owners will at all costs. He will lie, cheat, and more importantly steal ALL he can from the players, just like every other lawyer out there is paid to do. Just not many lawyers are paid 8mill a year to do it. Let me guess...it was in good faith Bettman brought up player/owner only meeting without him and Fehr. No it was try to negotiate a contract with people not as versed in these things. The players MET in good faith with the thought they were going to discuss and overcome some of the more important issues. Owners took it as contract or CBA negotiations. When they came back with a proposal on those discussions....NOT negotiations mind you...as the last 2 days weren't suppose to be that...Bettman then again pulled another move of acting horrified, speachless, etc etc etc.
Bettman may not be the sole person at fault on the owners side but he sure as sh!t is the cause for every single damn thing that happens. Make no doubt about it. He is paid to make the OWNERS money under any circumstance possible. Lie, cheat and steal...he doesn't give a sh!t about the fans or the game either...not matter what some fans think or how the media tries to spin it.
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I should say, tastes like I imagine ass would taste.
Yea, Black Maple Hill was a huge disappointment, as was Noah's Mill and Rowan's Creek. For what the price tag is, I will not be buying any more of them.
If you have anything Michter's or Pennco and would like to sell it or share it with me, please let me know.
I've heard of people just spitting it out in the sink.
"You can't claim to have been drinkin all day if you don't start first thing in the mornin."
I'd say my most disappointing was Woodford Reserve's Seasoned Oak Finish. It tasted like smoked shoe leather. I also don't like Blanton's.
As for worst, probably Old Crow or something (whatever I used to drink in college when I didn't know bourbon from scotch)
Old Grandad 114 is petty terrible stuff, its like they ran standard beam through a sweat sock.
Second only to that would be Willy Nelson's own Old Whiskey River. Few buddies and I thought it'd be a good idea to have a real whiskey tasting instead of usual beer and jack fun. I remember hearing "this has got to be great, Willy seems like a man that would really know his whiskey", and immediately thinking about the poor decision making that the red headed stranger is known for. I recall char, salt, and a bundle of other horrible flavors. Very young in my whiskey drinking at the time and I'd probably think different now, but the rememberance of it still makes my stomach turn a bit.
Old Bardstown. My bottle was absolutely terrible and holds the distinction of being the only bottle I've ever dumped down the drain in my life.
"I distrust a man who says 'when.' He's got to be careful not to drink too much, because he's not to be trusted when he does." Sydney Greenstreet
This is quite an entertaining thread. Blanton's, Dickel 12, Noah's Mill are some of the worst you've had?! Were you drinking them with or without a silver spoon in your mouth? I kid. Perfect example that the best bourbon out there is the one that tastes best to you, and why when new folks ask for recommendations, we tell them to just try everything.
Back on topic, the worst I've had was Yahara Bay, an indie from Madison, WI. In a close second place was Willett Pot Still. Tasted like nutty, salty, buttery popcorn gone bad.