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This webinar exploring findings from MPI's report, Critical Choices in Post-Recession California: Investing in the Educational and Career Success of Immigrant Youth, which focuses on the implications of California's public education system reforms
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This MPI panel discussion examines the U.S. deportation system with analysis on migrant apprehensions, removals, returns, and criminal prosecutions, and launches the report, "The Deportation Dilemma: Reconciling Tough and Humane Enforcement."
Education for the Future: Extending Georgia's High School and College Reforms to its Growing Immigrant Population
MPI experts, along with representatives from Gwinnett County Public Schools and the University of Georgia's Center for Latino Achievement and Success in Education, discuss the educational experiences of Georgia's first- and second-generation immigrant youth and where Georgia's ambitious education reforms have met—or failed to meet—the needs of this growing population.
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This is the latest in NCIIP's language access webinar series exploring the policy and program implementation imperatives for government and community agencies serving Limited English Proficient (LEP) populations.
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I am guessing they're playing him there to force him to work on the parts of his game that are weakest. We know the Devils don't put top priority on winning in the AHL, it's all about development.

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Way ahead of you, Mr. Garrett..I recommend drinking
This is probably a "dumb question" -- but I am not clear on the point:
Since this "samsung-laptop" driver is not usable, what happens when someone tries to install (or boot) Linux on an affected Samsung laptop, without using that driver?
(or for that matter, on unaffected ones)?
Is there a more generic driver as fall-back?
Does the boot just hang?
That gives me a significantly better idea what we're talking about.
On the other hand, I don't see why those should need vendor/model specific drivers, in the first place...
I personally wouldn't care about multi-media keys, but things like suspend/hibernate and backlight control do make a real difference.
Backlight is a problem because maybe some wires aren't where they are "Normally" or maybe a jumper is backwards, things like that. This laptop specifically (Dell XPS 13z Ultrabook) doesn't have the normal backlight control, its vendor specific instead of just being "Intel backlight." I had to go further than most to get Linux running on here, I had to run a custom kernel and even then its not exactly how I want things to be. For example thanks to what is either a buggy bios or a buggy disk controller, this laptop refuses to boot with the new GPT partition layout. Granted its not a big deal to do the old style MS-DOS style layout, but its still a problem.
If my servers start rebooting randomly to install hacked kernels, I think I'll notice. Whereas if I can't build a new kernel myself to work around bugs or support new hardware because it's not signed by Microsoft, I'm going to be rather annoyed.If you manage a whole bunch of servers in data centre, it would again be nice to know that only kernels you authorise can run on the systems.
The only real value in 'Secure Boot' is enforcing vendor lockin on the people who buy the hardware. For everyone else its a real pain for minimal benefit.


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100% functionality with mainline kernel drivers? is that a joke? there goes every stand-alone video card currently on the market. every motherboard with an nvidia or amd igp, intel poulsbo based motherboards... etc.
sorry, but thats just not a realistic requirement.
i'll chime in once more saying you should work something out with newegg - that would be awesome.
I have to second the people that have mentioned they would probably only use it as a service for discovering FOSS friendly products, and then subsequently shop around for the best price.
So in that regard, Phoronix probably wouldn't end up reaping a significant amount of revenue from a shop like this, because Amazon and its partners often don't have the best prices and warranty packages. So unless you plan on having truly competitively priced offerings, I'd say that it's not worth it, only because you won't get the financial returns that you might hope for.
Oh yeah! I can imagine PhoronixStore go on-line and the manufacturers going: "Oh no! Phoronix doesn't list our hardware as compatible with Linux! What ever are we going to do???" and of course then the entire boards of directors will commit mass suicides. Yep. That's how it's going to be.This will also provide an incentive to manufacturers to get off their rear ends and get their drivers upstream.
very interesting...
For me it would have to be amazon.ca (in addition to amazon.com). It'd find it most useful for Wi-Fi cards, TV cards, and laptops - graphics cards, and Intel/AMD/Nvidia chipsets are high profile enough that it's fairly easy to determine their compatibility. CPU's and internal hard drives can be assume to always work. Sound, network and storage cards are trickier but most of them work with Linux.
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saying i'm not aware if what hardware works with mainline kernel because i pointed out the fact that you would be needlessly limiting a ton of hardware that either works out of the box, or can be setup with a few simple clicks on the vast majority of disto's is absurd.
i'm aware of what the full opensource options are, simple truth is, they all suck. sure, they may be fully supported on opensource drivers, but the hardware itself sucks. and assuming that because you feel that way phoronix should cater to you is also absurd.
like this 1 greenstar for an working driver 1 green star for an fast working driver 1 greenstar for an fullfeatured driver 1 greenstar for an userfrendly driver and one for the overall best in this year..
5 greenstars *****2009 for exampel also the most ratet hartware in 2009
the same with the blackstars so you can diverend easly if you want clouses source drivers.
for an exampel an amd vga vs an nvidia vga.
nvida become an 4 or 5 black star but only 1 greenstar..
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intel becomes 4-5 greenstars but no blackstar..
there is no need to battle nvidia only makes clear thats nvidia do not have opensource drivers.


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5.a. Installing a Stage Tarball
Setting the Date/Time Right
Before you continue you need to check your date/time and update it. A
misconfigured clock may lead to strange results in the future!
To verify the current date/time, run date:
Code Listing 1.1: Verifying the date/time
# date
Fri Mar 29 16:21:18 CEST 2005
If the date/time displayed is wrong, update it using the date
MMDDhhmmYYYY syntax (Month, Day, hour, minute
and Year). For instance, to set the date to Mar 29th, 16:21 in the
year 2005:
Code Listing 1.2: Setting the date/time
# date 032916212005
Locating the Stage3 File
If you have configured networking because you need to download a stage3 file for
your architecture, continue with Alternative: Using a
Stage3 from the Internet. Otherwise read Default:
Using a Stage3 from the Installation CD.
5.b. Default: Using a Stage from the Installation CD
Extracting the Stage Tarball
The stages on the CD reside in the /mnt/cdrom/stages directory. To
see a listing of available stages, use ls:
Code Listing 2.1: List all available stages
# ls /mnt/cdrom/stages
If the system replies with an error, you may need to mount the CD-ROM first:
Code Listing 2.2: Mounting the CD-ROM
# ls /mnt/cdrom/stages
ls: /mnt/cdrom/stages: No such file or directory
# mount /dev/cdroms/cdrom0 /mnt/cdrom
# ls /mnt/cdrom/stages
Now go into your Gentoo mountpoint (usually /mnt/gentoo):
Code Listing 2.3: Changing directory to /mnt/gentoo
# cd /mnt/gentoo
We will now extract the stage tarball of your choice. We will do this with the
tar tool. Make sure you use the same options (xvjpf)! The
x stands for Extract, the v for Verbose to see what
happens during the extraction process (this one is optional), the j for
Decompress with bzip2, the p for Preserve permissions and
the f to denote that we want to extract a file, not standard input. In
the next example, we extract the stage tarball
stage3-<subarch>-2005.1-r1.tar.bz2. Be sure to substitute
the tarball filename with your stage.
Code Listing 2.4: Extracting the stage tarball
# tar xvjpf /mnt/cdrom/stages/stage3-<subarch>-2005.1-r1.tar.bz2
Now that the stage is installed, continue with Installing Portage.
5.c. Alternative: Using a Stage from the Internet
Downloading the Stage Tarball
Go to the Gentoo mountpoint at which you mounted your filesystems
(most likely /mnt/gentoo):
Code Listing 3.1: Going to the Gentoo mountpoint
Depending on your installation medium, you have a couple of tools available to
download a stage. If you have links2 available, then you can immediately
surf to the Gentoo mirrorlist and
choose a mirror close to you.
If you don't have links2 available you should have lynx at your
disposal. If you need to go through a proxy, export the http_proxy and
ftp_proxy variables:
Code Listing 3.2: Setting proxy information for lynx
# export http_proxy="http://proxy.server.com:port"
# export ftp_proxy="http://proxy.server.com:port"
We will now assume that you have links2 at your disposal.
Pick the releases/ directory, followed by your architecture (for
instance x86/) and the Gentoo version (2005.1/ or
2005.1-r1/ if available) to finish up with the stages/
directory. There you should see all available stage files for your architecture
(they might be stored within subdirectories named to the individual sub
architectures). Select one and press D to download. When you're
finished, press Q to quit the browser.
Code Listing 3.3: Surfing to the mirror listing with links2
# links2 http://www.gentoo.org/main/en/mirrors.xml
(If you need proxy support with links2:)
# links2 -http-proxy proxy.server.com:8080 http://www.gentoo.org/main/en/mirrors.xml
Make sure you download a stage3 tarball - installations using a stage1 or stage2
tarball are not supported anymore.
If you want to check the integrity of the downloaded stage tarball, use
md5sum and compare the output with the MD5 checksum provided on the
mirror. For instance, to check the validity of the x86 stage tarball:
Code Listing 3.4: Example checking integrity of a stage tarball
# md5sum -c stage3-x86-2005.1-r1.tar.bz2.md5
stage3-x86-2005.1-r1.tar.bz2: OK
Unpacking the Stage Tarball
Now unpack your downloaded stage onto your system. We use tar to proceed
as it is the easiest method:
Code Listing 3.5: Unpacking the stage
# tar xvjpf stage3-*.tar.bz2
Make sure that you use the same options (xvjpf). The x stands
for Extract, the v for Verbose to see what happens during
the extraction process (this one is optional), the j for Decompress
with bzip2, the p for Preserve permissions and the f
to denote that we want to extract a file, not standard input.
5.d. Installing Portage
Unpacking a Portage Snapshot
You now have to install a Portage snapshot, a collection of files that inform
Portage what software titles you can install, which profiles are available, etc.
Unpack the Snapshot from the Installation CD
To install the snapshot, take a look inside /mnt/cdrom/snapshots/
to see what snapshot is available:
Code Listing 4.1: Checking the /mnt/cdrom/snapshots content
# ls /mnt/cdrom/snapshots
Now extract the snapshot using the following construct. Again, make sure you
use the correct options with tar. Also, the -C is with a capital
C, not c. In the next example we use
portage-<date>.tar.bz2 as the snapshot filename. Be sure to
substitute with the name of the snapshot that is on your Installation CD.
Code Listing 4.2: Extracting a Portage snapshot
# tar xvjf /mnt/cdrom/snapshots/portage-<date>.tar.bz2 -C /mnt/gentoo/usr
Copy Source Code Archives
You also need to copy over all source code from the Universal Installation CD.
Code Listing 4.3: Copy over source code
# mkdir /mnt/gentoo/usr/portage/distfiles
# cp /mnt/cdrom/distfiles/* /mnt/gentoo/usr/portage/distfiles/
5.e. Configuring the Compile Options
To optimize Gentoo, you can set a couple of variables which impact Portage
behaviour. All those variables can be set as environment variables (using
export) but that isn't permanent. To keep your settings, Portage provides
you with /etc/make.conf, a configuration file for Portage. It is
this file we will edit now.
A commented listing of all possible variables can be found in
/mnt/gentoo/etc/make.conf.example. For a successful Gentoo
installation you'll only need to set the variables which are mentioned beneath.
Fire up your favorite editor (in this guide we use nano) so we can alter
the optimization variables we will discuss hereafter.
Code Listing 5.1: Opening /etc/make.conf
# nano -w /mnt/gentoo/etc/make.conf
As you probably noticed, the make.conf.example file is
structured in a generic way: commented lines start with "#", other lines define
variables using the VARIABLE="content" syntax. The make.conf
file uses the same syntax. Several of those variables are discussed next.
Do not make any modifications to the USE variable if you are performing a stage3
with GRP installation. You can alter the USE variable after having installed the
packages you want. Gremlins are known to attack your system if you ignore this
The CHOST variable declares the target build host for your system. This
variable should already be set to the correct value. Do not edit
it as that might break your system. If the CHOST variable does
not look correct to you, you might be using the wrong stage3 tarball.
CFLAGS and CXXFLAGS
The CFLAGS and CXXFLAGS variables define the optimization flags
for the gcc C and C++ compiler respectively. Although we define those
generally here, you will only have maximum performance if you optimize these
flags for each program separately. The reason for this is because every program
is different.
In make.conf you should define the optimization flags you think
will make your system the most responsive generally. Don't place
experimental settings in this variable; too much optimization can make
programs behave bad (crash, or even worse, malfunction).
We will not explain all possible optimization options. If you want to know
them all, read the GNU
Online Manual(s) or the gcc info page (info gcc -- only
works on a working Linux system). The make.conf.example file
itself also contains lots of examples and information; don't forget to read it
A first setting is the -march= flag, which specifies the name of the
target architecture. Possible options are described in the
make.conf.example file (as comments). For instance, for the x86
Athlon XP architecture:
Code Listing 5.2: The GCC march setting
# AMD64 users who want to use a native 64 bit system should use -march=k8
# EM64T users should use -march=nocona
A second one is the -O flag (that is a capital O, not a zero),
which specifies the gcc optimization
class flag. Possible classes are s (for size-optimized),
0 (zero - for no optimizations), 1, 2 or 3 for more
speed-optimization flags (every class has the same flags as the one before, plus
some extras). For instance, for a class-2 optimization:
Code Listing 5.3: The GCC O setting
Another popular optimization flag is -pipe (use pipes rather than
temporary files for communication between the various stages of compilation).
Mind you that using -fomit-frame-pointer (which doesn't keep the frame
pointer in a register for functions that don't need one) might have serious
repercussions on the debugging of applications!
When you define the CFLAGS and CXXFLAGS, you should combine
several optimization flags, like in the following example:
Code Listing 5.4: Defining the CFLAGS and CXXFLAGS variable
CFLAGS="-march=athlon-xp -pipe -O2" # AMD64 users use march=k8
# EM64T users use march=nocona
CXXFLAGS="${CFLAGS}" # Use the same settings for both variables
With MAKEOPTS you define how many parallel compilations should occur when
you install a package. A good choice is the number of CPUs in your system plus
one, but this guideline isn't always perfect.
Code Listing 5.5: MAKEOPTS for a regular, 1-CPU system
Ready, Set, Go!
Update your /mnt/gentoo/etc/make.conf to your own preference and
save (nano users would hit Ctrl-X). You are now ready to continue
with Chrooting into the Gentoo Base System.
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|English Language — Knowledge of the structure and content of the English language including the meaning and spelling of words, rules of composition, and grammar.
|Design — Knowledge of design techniques, tools, and principles involved in production of precision technical plans, blueprints, drawings, and models.
|Law and Government — Knowledge of laws, legal codes, court procedures, precedents, government regulations, executive orders, agency rules, and the democratic political process.
|Building and Construction — Knowledge of materials, methods, and the tools involved in the construction or repair of houses, buildings, or other structures such as highways and roads.
|Critical Thinking — Using logic and reasoning to identify the strengths and weaknesses of alternative solutions, conclusions or approaches to problems.
|Active Listening — Giving full attention to what other people are saying, taking time to understand the points being made, asking questions as appropriate, and not interrupting at inappropriate times.
|Complex Problem Solving — Identifying complex problems and reviewing related information to develop and evaluate options and implement solutions.
|Mathematics — Using mathematics to solve problems.
|Reading Comprehension — Understanding written sentences and paragraphs in work related documents.
|Speaking — Talking to others to convey information effectively.
|Time Management — Managing one's own time and the time of others.
|Judgment and Decision Making — Considering the relative costs and benefits of potential actions to choose the most appropriate one.
|Coordination — Adjusting actions in relation to others' actions.
|Monitoring — Monitoring/Assessing performance of yourself, other individuals, or organizations to make improvements or take corrective action.
|Near Vision — The ability to see details at close range (within a few feet of the observer).
|Deductive Reasoning — The ability to apply general rules to specific problems to produce answers that make sense.
|Finger Dexterity — The ability to make precisely coordinated movements of the fingers of one or both hands to grasp, manipulate, or assemble very small objects.
|Oral Comprehension — The ability to listen to and understand information and ideas presented through spoken words and sentences.
|Problem Sensitivity — The ability to tell when something is wrong or is likely to go wrong. It does not involve solving the problem, only recognizing there is a problem.
|Mathematical Reasoning — The ability to choose the right mathematical methods or formulas to solve a problem.
|Oral Expression — The ability to communicate information and ideas in speaking so others will understand.
|Written Comprehension — The ability to read and understand information and ideas presented in writing.
|Category Flexibility — The ability to generate or use different sets of rules for combining or grouping things in different ways.
|Control Precision — The ability to quickly and repeatedly adjust the controls of a machine or a vehicle to exact positions.
Work Activities
|Documenting/Recording Information — Entering, transcribing, recording, storing, or maintaining information in written or electronic/magnetic form.
|Getting Information — Observing, receiving, and otherwise obtaining information from all relevant sources.
|Interacting With Computers — Using computers and computer systems (including hardware and software) to program, write software, set up functions, enter data, or process information.
|Processing Information — Compiling, coding, categorizing, calculating, tabulating, auditing, or verifying information or data.
|Communicating with Supervisors, Peers, or Subordinates — Providing information to supervisors, co-workers, and subordinates by telephone, in written form, e-mail, or in person.
|Making Decisions and Solving Problems — Analyzing information and evaluating results to choose the best solution and solve problems.
|Analyzing Data or Information — Identifying the underlying principles, reasons, or facts of information by breaking down information or data into separate parts.
|Identifying Objects, Actions, and Events — Identifying information by categorizing, estimating, recognizing differences or similarities, and detecting changes in circumstances or events.
|Performing General Physical Activities — Performing physical activities that require considerable use of your arms and legs and moving your whole body, such as climbing, lifting, balancing, walking, stooping, and handling of materials.
|Updating and Using Relevant Knowledge — Keeping up-to-date technically and applying new knowledge to your job.
Work Context
|Face-to-Face Discussions — 89% responded "Every day."
|Importance of Being Exact or Accurate — 86% responded "Extremely important."
|Outdoors, Exposed to Weather — 86% responded "Every day."
|Work With Work Group or Team — 71% responded "Extremely important."
|Telephone — 54% responded "Every day."
|Frequency of Decision Making — 50% responded "Every day."
|Contact With Others — 54% responded "Contact with others most of the time."
|Impact of Decisions on Co-workers or Company Results — 46% responded "Important results."
|Electronic Mail — 43% responded "Every day."
|Spend Time Standing — 39% responded "More than half the time."
Job Zone
|Job Zone Three: Medium Preparation Needed
|Most occupations in this zone require training in vocational schools, related on-the-job experience, or an associate's degree.
|Related Experience
|Previous work-related skill, knowledge, or experience is required for these occupations. For example, an electrician must have completed three or four years of apprenticeship or several years of vocational training, and often must have passed a licensing exam, in order to perform the job.
|Job Training
|Employees in these occupations usually need one or two years of training involving both on-the-job experience and informal training with experienced workers. A recognized apprenticeship program may be associated with these occupations.
|Job Zone Examples
|These occupations usually involve using communication and organizational skills to coordinate, supervise, manage, or train others to accomplish goals. Examples include food service managers, electricians, agricultural technicians, legal secretaries, occupational therapy assistants, and medical assistants.
|SVP Range
|(6.0 to < 7.0)
Percentage of Respondents
|Education Level Required
|High school diploma or equivalent
|Post-secondary certificate
|Associate's degree
Interest code: RC
|Realistic — Realistic occupations frequently involve work activities that include practical, hands-on problems and solutions. They often deal with plants, animals, and real-world materials like wood, tools, and machinery. Many of the occupations require working outside, and do not involve a lot of paperwork or working closely with others.
|Conventional — Conventional occupations frequently involve following set procedures and routines. These occupations can include working with data and details more than with ideas. Usually there is a clear line of authority to follow.
Work Styles
|Attention to Detail — Job requires being careful about detail and thorough in completing work tasks.
|Integrity — Job requires being honest and ethical.
|Dependability — Job requires being reliable, responsible, and dependable, and fulfilling obligations.
|Analytical Thinking — Job requires analyzing information and using logic to address work-related issues and problems.
|Initiative — Job requires a willingness to take on responsibilities and challenges.
|Achievement/Effort — Job requires establishing and maintaining personally challenging achievement goals and exerting effort toward mastering tasks.
|Adaptability/Flexibility — Job requires being open to change (positive or negative) and to considerable variety in the workplace.
|Leadership — Job requires a willingness to lead, take charge, and offer opinions and direction.
|Persistence — Job requires persistence in the face of obstacles.
|Cooperation — Job requires being pleasant with others on the job and displaying a good-natured, cooperative attitude.
Work Values
|Support — Occupations that satisfy this work value offer supportive management that stands behind employees. Corresponding needs are Company Policies, Supervision: Human Relations and Supervision: Technical.
|Relationships — Occupations that satisfy this work value allow employees to provide service to others and work with co-workers in a friendly non-competitive environment. Corresponding needs are Co-workers, Moral Values and Social Service.
|Independence — Occupations that satisfy this work value allow employees to work on their own and make decisions. Corresponding needs are Creativity, Responsibility and Autonomy.
Related Occupations
|Geodetic Surveyors
|Environmental Engineering Technicians
|Mechanical Engineering Technicians
|Manufacturing Production Technicians
|Geological Sample Test Technicians
|Environmental Science and Protection Technicians, Including Health
|Forest and Conservation Technicians Green
|Precision Agriculture Technicians Bright Outlook
|Forest and Conservation Workers
|First-Line Supervisors of Construction Trades and Extraction Workers
Wages & Employment Trends
Median wages data collected from Surveying and Mapping Technicians.
Employment data collected from Surveying and Mapping Technicians.
Industry data collected from Surveying and Mapping Technicians.
|Median wages (2014)
|$19.60 hourly, $40,770 annual
|State wages
|Employment (2012)
|54,000 employees
|Projected growth (2012-2022)
|Average (8% to 14%)
|Projected job openings (2012-2022)
|State trends
|Top industries (2012)
Source: Bureau of Labor Statistics 2014 wage data and 2012-2022 employment projections . "Projected growth" represents the estimated change in total employment over the projections period (2012-2022). "Projected job openings" represent openings due to growth and replacement.
Job Openings on the Web
Sources of Additional Information
Disclaimer: Sources are listed to provide additional information on related jobs, specialties, and/or industries. Links to non-DOL Internet sites are provided for your convenience and do not constitute an endorsement.
- Surveying and Mapping Technicians . Bureau of Labor Statistics, U.S. Department of Labor. Occupational Outlook Handbook, 2014-15 Edition.
- American Association for Geodetic Surveying (AAGS) , 5119 Pegasus Court, Suite Q, Frederick, MD 21704. Phone: (240) 439-4615. Fax: (240) 439-4952.
- American Society for Photogrammetry and Remote Sensing (ASPRS) , 5410 Grosvenor Ln., Suite 210, Bethesda, MD 20814-2160. Phone: (301) 493-0290.
- National Society of Professional Surveyors (NSPS) , 5119 Pegasus Court, Suite Q, Frederick, MD 21704. Phone: (240) 439-4615. Fax: (240) 439-4952.


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It was 43 years ago today (December 6th, 1969) that the Rolling Stones held their ill-fated free concert at the Altamont Speedway in Livermore, California. The bill, which also included Santana, the Jefferson Airplane, the Flying Burrito Brothers, and Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young, is mainly remembered for the violence instigated by the Hell's Angels motorcycle gang, whom the Stones had hired as security -- and the murder of concert-goer Meredith Hunter by Hell's Angel Alan Passaro. Passaro was later acquitted of the stabbing after claiming he acted in self-defense.
Portions of the Stones' 1969 tour and the Altamont concert were filmed by filmmakers Albert Maysles, David Maysles and Charlotte Zwerin, assisted by George Lucas. The film, featuring portions of both the Stones' November Madison Square Garden concerts and the Altamont concert, was released in 1970 as Gimme Shelter.
At the New York City press conference at the start of the tour, Mick Jagger said he thought that the free Northern California concert would follow in the footsteps of the Woodstock festival, in terms of how people would get along: (Mick Jagger): "We are doing a free concert in San Francisco. . . " (Reporter): "When?" Mick Jagger:"December 6th -- and the location is not Golden Gate Park, unfortunately, but it someplace adjacent to it which is a bit larger. . . It's creating a sort of a microcosmic society, y'know, which, it sets an example to the rest of America as to how one can behave in large gatherings."
Jefferson Airplane guitarist Jorma Kaukonen (pronounced: YOR-ma COW-co-nen) said that his only thought was to keep playing after he saw lead singer Marty Balin get punched in the face by one of the Hell's Angels: "I remember thinking that -- of course, if you look at the footage, Jack (Casady) and Spencer (Dryden) and I pretty much keep on playing -- I remember thinking at the time, 'I'm just gonna keep playing and see what happens.'"
The show's low standing stage eventually became overcrowded with fans and Angels alike. The Stones' tour manager Sam Cutler pleaded with the people to give the musicians room to play: "There are a number of people on and around this stage who should not be here. Consequently. . . consequently the musicians on this stage are playing with something like 200 people breathing down their necks. Now can I please ask that everyone leaves the stage, and as I say we'll go back to playing music and nothing else."
Both Mick Jagger and Keith Richards sought to get the crowd in line so that the Stones could play their set: "(Mick Jagger): People, who's fighting and what for?! Why are we fighting?! Why are we fighting?! We don't want to fight! Come on! Who wants to fight? (crowd noise) Every other scene has been cool. . ." (Keith Richards): "Look, cat. . . That guy there, if he doesn't stop it man! Listen man, either those cats cool it, or we don't play!" (crowd noise). (Hell's Angel): "Hey, if y'don't cool it, y'ain't gonna hear no music! Now y'all wanna go home or what?!" (Crowd noise) (Announcer): "We need doctors down here now please. Can we have a doctor now to the front?" (Crowd noise) )
Although the Grateful Dead were scheduled to play, they refused to take the stage in the middle of what was obviously a very ugly situation unfolding. Drummer Bill Kreutzmann says that the scene at Altamont was as tragic in real life as it appears in the Gimme Shelter footage: "Yeah, it was horrible. It was a war. It felt really uncomfortable. It was a dark day. It was so dark that that night, we were playing that weekend for Bill Graham at the Carousel, and I refused to play that night, I was feeling so bad about what had happened that day. I didn't feel like going and celebrating it musically."
Although only a handful of songs from the concert were shown in Gimme Shelter -- giving the appearance that the show was cut short due to the unruly crowd and violence -- the band actually performed a full 15-song set.
The Stones' full setlist at the Altamont concert was: "Jumpin' Jack Flash," "Carol," "Sympathy For The Devil," "The Sun Is Shining," "Stray Cat Blues," "Love In Vain," "Under My Thumb," the world premiere of "Brown Sugar," "Midnight Rambler," "Live With Me," "Gimme Shelter," "Little Queenie," "Satisfaction," "Honky Tonk Women," and "Street Fighting Man."
Out now is Get Yer Ya-Ya's Out! The Rolling Stones In Concert 40th Anniversary Deluxe Box Set. The set features three CD's and one DVD, with the first disc including the full 1970 Get Yer Ya-Ya's Out album, and the second disc including five additional cuts left off the original set. The third disc features performances from Ike & Tina Turner and B.B. King who served as the Stones' opening acts on November 27th and 28th, 1969 at New York's Madison Square Garden.
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OT: Best Place to Live Upstate?
Not sure if this is the correct forum for this question, and if not I apologize. Please direct me to the more appropriate one.
One of my dreams has always been to buy land and live upstate. The problem is that I don't get up there very often. But whenever I see pictures of the landscape, I just ooo and aahh.
In the next couple of years, we will be in the position to move. So, as I begin my search, I'd like to find out where I should even begin. Hopefully, those of you living there already might have some suggestions for me.
At the risk of being flamed, I'll tell you what I want and what I don't want in a community. I'm looking for that quaint, historic, colonial New England, Currier & Ives type setting, something straight out of Country Living or Country Home. A place where my family can feel safe, where historic preservation and open space is highly valued, where I can have an old farmhouse and affordable land with rolling hills and trees and chickens and cows and such. I guess I'm really looking for the essence of my special town here in NJ, only upstate where land and houses might be a little less expensive.
What I don't want is a town full of Walmarts and McD's, mobile homes or even worse farmland sold off to developers putting in mile and after mile of treeless subdivisions with cookie cutter homes. No teenagers cruising the streets at night in their loud cars. And no place where the norm is gun-laden pickup trucks full of good ole boys with dead deer strapped to the roof. (It's not my intention to offend anyone here--I'm just trying to find a community that's appropriate for my family, and that's not it.)
Have you seen the town or area I'm seeking? Do you have any suggestions? Thanks!
You're not asking for much, are you? Kidding...
You might look at some of the small towns in northern Dutchess County or in Columbia County if staying in Southern New York interests you. Towns like Rhinebeck (I lived there)Chatham and Kinderhook might suit you. Or Millbrook (I lived there too.)
If the far northern part of the state appeals to you, (and I can't imagine why it wouldn't) there are some small towns with the same feeling that you describe up here in in the Adirondacks, though not with all the specific attributes. It's hard to get away from the occasional idiots with loud cars or screaming motorcycles anywhere you go and hunting is a way of life for a part of the population here.
The main problem up here is economic so if you can telecommute as I do and your job is not dependent on the local economy, you may find something suitable up here in the Adirondacks. It's more expensive, but some of the small towns along Lake Champlain have that Currier and Ives, New England feel. Maybe around Westport and Essex.
If you're up this way, head over here to Saranac Lake in the central Adirondacks. It is an old village that was a bit shabby but since I've lived here full time, I've seen a lot of positive change, especially the empty storefronts being occupied by interesting businesses and the buildings being restored, not just by slapping plate glass in metal frames but in bringing back the character of the original architecture. A coalition of dedicated residents and many dozens of local business owners have banded together to oppose the cancer that is Wal-Mart from blighting our community, starting by voting out of office the politicians that were sleeping in Sam Walton's bed and killing the sweetheart zoning change Wal-Mart thought they had in their back pocket, replacing it it with the idea that zoning changes need to be for controlled and reasonable growth that will benefit all the community.
We have an active historical preservation group involved in preserving and restoring our historical buildings, most of which date back to the days when Saranac Lake was the place to "take the cure" when one was stricken with TB. One of the notable cure residents were Robert Louis Stevenson who wrote "The Master of Ballantrae" while living here and another was Bela Bartok who composed his Third Piano Concerto here. Both their homes have been restored and are open to the public.
Well, good luck with the search. "Upstate" is a pretty big and undefined area and I know there is a town that you will find perfect for you.
I live 30 minutes from Buffalo. 10 minutes out of a little quaint town called East Aurora, NY.
Google East Aurora, it's a great town ... they are famous for battling the "big box" stores and winning. Active farming and horse community. The state recently purchase a local "estate" and created walking & horse trails. There are summer polo matches, carriage competitions, art shows & and an active gardening community too. It's the home of the Roycroft Arts & Crafts movement.
Real estate in and around Buffalo is relatively inexpensive compared to downstate NY. I bought a 20 acre horse farm 9+ years ago for $124K. It needed lots of work, but the bare bones were there. I love it here and plan on NEVER leaving!
My area is rolling hills, as compared to North of buffalo where it's flat.
Follow link to pictures ...
Here is a link that might be useful: My Farm
If I were you, I'd try to look near small upstate college towns - near Hamilton (Colgate University), Clinton (Hamilton College), Canton (St. Lawrence University and Canton College), Potsdam (Clarkson University and SUNY Potsdam), etc.
The colleges provide nearby social life and cut down on the deer and trailer issues. Prices in these areas are LOW - some of the lowest real estate costs east of the Mississippi.
I forgot to add, get your hands on a book from the 1970's called GREENER PASTURES: Life in the North Country, by Marnie Reed Crowell. It will really, really bring home what life on a small farm near these upstate schools is like. Crowell's husband is an SLU biologist.
It may also make you very impatient to make a move!
LOL! Pam, I live right in East Aurora and I do agree that this is a quaint town, with the Roycroft and the bed & breakfast and Fisher-Price, etc... But we do have McDonals, Burger King, Pizza Hut as well.
The love of rolling hills sounds just like my wife's!
Really, anything in NY that is away from the metropolitan areas of NYC, Buffalo, Rochester, Syracuse, Albany, and Binghamton, is what you are looking for - especially the small towns between Albany & Plattsburgh. Unfortunately, it's difficu;t to avoid modern trappings, even in a small town like East Aurora.
LOLOL I never thought of Binghamton as "metropolitan," petiolaris! If we drive a mile north or south of the city, we're in country as rolling and rural as anything Upstate. There are some very nice off-the-beaten-path places to live in this area (Greene, Whitney Point, Maine, and Newark Valley come to mind). If you get away from the strip of commerce along Rte 17/I86, you'll find many great places to live.
Upstate NY is certainly a very beautiful area, with lots of open land and rolling hills. Even 45 minutes outside of the "metropolitan" areas like Rochester, you're in the country. Best way to appreciate it is to come up for a visit.
A website that might help point you in the right direction is www.findyourspot.com - it's a free, online quiz to help narrow down places to live.
Good luck!
I live in East Aurora too and love it here. You might be happy in the town of Aurora, Elma, Marilla, or go out of Erie County and look in Batavia, or near Rochester. The Finger Lakes area is beautiful and I was told by a Roycrofter that lived there that they had more sun in the winter than we do in Erie County. Ellicotville is a cute little ski town, with lots of hills and is quaint. Allegheny county is really pretty too, as is Wyoming County. You won't find a trailer sitting on a lot in Aurora and our crime rate is very low. The people are really friendly, people actually say hello when you are walking. Another town near here is Orchard Park that has similar attributes. Since I live in the village, I keep my horses on a farm in Colden, about 10 minutes from here, its a very hilly area, cold and windy too. But its very pretty and farms and land are available.
I live about 20 miles west of Syracuse (which claims to be the crossroads of NYS as it is intersected by Route 81 and the NYS Thruway). Our village and its surrounding township is situated on the cleanest lake in NYS. Explore this website:
The village is pronounced like a "thin book of maps",ie, skinny atlas by most people... the la-dee-dah version is scan-ee-atlas LOL...
You might check out Corning, which is in the Fingerlakes Region. They have a real pretty 19th-century downtown that they did a lot of work to renovate properly. They have the world-famous glass museum, where you can take (expensive) classes on working with hot glass. They have the golf tournament every year, if you like golf, which brings in tourists. Corning is pretty cheap, and there are a lot of beautiful old houses in the village. It's in Steuben County, which is one of the poorest in upstate NY. They didn't even have electrification until 1948, and they are just getting a 911 system. It can get sort of redneck heaven in the western part (Steuben is a big county), but around Corning in the eastern part, it is pretty nice. I live in Horseheads, which is about 20 minutes away (in Chemung County, just north of Elmira), and sometimes I drive over to their food store because they have an excellent organic food department. They have a good farmer's market, much better than the one in Elmira, too. I like Horseheads myself, but it is much much smaller than Corning and more expensive, and I live in a rural area, not in the town. But I like being closer to Ithaca, which is great for foreign restaurants, neat shops, and interesting events and movies, and Cornell is there for a great library.
The thing about the Fingerlakes area is that we have much less snow than most other parts of New York, only about 3 ft. Around Syracuse, they have 12 ft. Buffalo area has tons too. It is really oppressive when you have to shovel all the time. This area is at least a zone warmer than the surrounding area also. I am in zone 6 on account of the air spilling down from Seneca Lake. Personally, I love the area around Seneca Lake, and there are some cute little towns up there, like Odessa, but it has gotten expensive on account of the wineries.
The people here are great. They are friendly, but they don't mind your business for you. However, there are WalMarts everywhere, and there are always going to be trailers as long as there are poor people. There are no jobs here, so we are bleeding population massively. Like someone else said, this is fine if you telecommute, but it has a devastating effect on small cities like Elmira, where much of the downtown is deserted. You cannot get away from that fact in upstate NY.
I lived in northern Minnesota, and I have to say the winters there are much brighter than they are here. We get a lot of overcast days. But of course, it does not get anywhere near as cold here.
You may want to consider the northern Catskills, specifically Delaware County. Not only is the scenery here breathtaking, but we're also close enough to everything to be what we call "centrally isolated."
You will have to bring along your own form of employment though !
-Beth, Hobart NY
I really like this thread. Though as you may gather from my previous post, I really love the Adirondacks, I've lived in a lot of great New York places along the the Hudson River, in Rockland, Orange, Green and Dutchess, moving progressively northward. Other than Rockland County, there's a lot that I miss in all the others. (OK, I miss my childhood in Rockland, but that place is gone forever.)
Jenswrens really needs to take an extensive road trip!
Certainly plenty of beautiful towns to choose from in upper NY! I am also partial to the Adirondacks, and especially the Saranac Lake area ... but then again, we just bought an old farmhouse in Gabriels - 7 miles down the road.
I was also going to suggest Corning. Seems like it is a great match for what you are looking for.
You've gotten some great suggestions. While you're in the process of thinking it over, you might find some harder facts at City-data.com. Facts and pictures vary according to the info that has been submitted, some more, some less. But it should give you a decent idea of the socio-economics of each area. Such as population, density, housing (new starts/existing) employment, etc.
Then plan a visit. Lots of beautiful country up here. Sandy
Skaneateles is a great place and we go there often for Doug's Fish Fry. After we eat we walk around town and go over to the lake. Be warned, though, that Skaneateles is an Indian name meaning "land of hopeless liberals". LOL- It would be a great place to move to. Hillary almost moved there, I think.
Paul F B
Another vote for Corning. I have lived here 50 years and the only other place we would consider retiring to would be the Pacific Northwest. In addition to the Corning Museum of Glass (at which I am a docent) there is the Rockwell Museum of Western Art. Close by there is the National soaring Museum, The wings of Eagles Warplane museum and the Curtiss Museum. There is a great Civic Museum program and a dynamic Symphony orchestra. 171 Cedar Arts has all sorts of programs and brings in musical groups. Corning has been rated third as an arts community. It has an outstanding community college. For a small city there is more than enough to keep busy.
Other places in Steuben and Yates county to consider would be Hammondsport at the foot of Keuka Lake and Penn Yan at the northern end of the east branch. I think it has been rated as one of the top places to retire. Keuka College is near by as is Hobart in Geneva.
Skaneateles is your best bet.
Some pictures showing the Village of Skaneateles and Skaneateles Lake.
The Lake is one of Finger Lakes and the village of Skaneateles is located on the north shore of the Lake.
Here is a link that might be useful: Pictures of Skaneateles
This is a great thread. What an amazing state, eh?
I just came back from my first visit to the Adirondacks, including a lovely afternoon in Saranac.
My place is in Norther Delaware Co.--Bloomville--and I love it here.
No shortage of great spots--and great spots to protect from the big boxes and other blights.
I totally agree with Wayne, take a nice long roadtrip. I live in Lewiston and it's probably as "quaint" as it gets. We have no big box stores but they are available in Niagara Falls about 15-20 minutes away when you need them. We have a historic village in the center of town which used to contain a McDonald's. It was funny because the McDonald's was in an 1800's building and the drive thru was on the wrong side of the car so they had to reach into the passenger side window of your car with a basket on a long pole. Anyway, the McDonald's eventually got voted out because it wasn't in keeping with the historic nature of the village. There's lot's of beautiful land here and it's very safe here so we never lock anything. I do wish we had a closer Tim Horton's but those are the breaks.
Here is a link that might be useful: LEwiston, NY
As I read your description of an ideal small upstate town I immediately thought of Skaneateles, The picturesque downtown gets quite "touristy" in the summer, but that's good for the communtiy finances. By all means, spend a vacation there. The town is close enough to Syracuse, Auburn and Cortland to give you a choice of where to shop and find important services. It is not too terribly far from the NY State Thruway (Rt. 90), Rt.81, and the very attractive and NOT high speed Rts. 5 and 20. I live 25 miles from Skaneateles in real farm country in order to reap the benefit of low property prices and taxes. My "town" is Conquest and there isn't even a traffic light here. I shop between Auburn and Syracuse and doctor and vet in places between. For gardeners, I would suggest the longer drive to Rochester where I have found many great nurseries. If you are interested in "Nowhere", where I live, look for the intersection of NS state route 38 and intersatate route 90. You'll probably need a magnifying glass. I grew up on the shore in CT and my favorite place in the world is coastal ME. I stay in upstate NY because my kids settled here. It really is a good place to live. We do get a lot of snow, but seldom have any other form of dangerous weather. Again, I urge you to vacation in Skaneateles. Maybe you can get away in a few weeks when the foliage is fabulous.
Hi, I'm wondering just how small a town you had in mind?
I visited friends from East Aurora recently and don't get me wrong I love this town. The old homes are beautiful, but my friends were complaining if they wanted something they had to travel to Buffalo to get it. They were wishing for a Walmart! They were some of the people outvoted on Walmart.
Anyway I live outside of Batavia ny- wish I had some pictures- they just renotated the downtown with a new Cityhall and street lights that have an older look. There is Walmart in the town of Batavia (not city). Every thing is handy here yet 10 min. away in Elba, Alexander, E. Bethany, etc. are small towns with rolling hills, and land prices which would be unheard of elsewhere.
I had a friend from outwest who said her first flight over NY was unreal- all that green she wasn't used to- she thought Ny was paradise- have to agree.
mizack2,I was hoping that someone who presently lives in Sullivan County would answer your question,but not so far. Well,it is many years since I was down there,but my husband and I used to go to Sullivan County from where we lived in New Jersey.Sullivan is in the Catskill Mountains,and we went there for skiing in winter and white water canoeing in spring.My husband had been going there for years for the good hiking there.
I have no idea what it is like there now other than that the terrain and weather are the same as always.Hilly,cold winters and warm summers. This link should provide more information. http://www.sullivancounty.net/
I am not that familiar with all the neat little towns in NY because I don't get around much but since moving here 15 plus years ago I have been to East Aurora and I fell in love with it. I don't know if it has been mentioned but they still have an old operating 5&10 called Vidlers where you can find some of the coolest 'stuff'. It is really a cool little historic village and it was the first one that I thought of when I read your post. Personally I would rather live down south.
I just found GardenWeb and stumbled upon this wonderful thread. We make a habit of visiting villages all over upstate NY, and there are so many really charming ones. One that comes to mind is Cambridge, just about due east of Saratoga Springs on Route 22, near the Vermont border. Even has one of the country's few remaining "railroad hotels," facing the old depot, that claims to be the "Original Home of Pie A La Mode". Sadly, the hotel was foreclosed on. Take a look at these pictures, though. Someone did a fabulous job restoring this building. Maybe you'd like to run a hotel! I'd bet you anything the bank would like to sell it at a bargain price: http://www.cambridgehotel.com/
One of the absolutely most charming small towns we've ever seen, however, is over the border, south of Corning: Wellsoboro, PA. The nearest mall of any kind is an hour away, they have a thriving downtown that is all in an historic district complete with restaurants, hotels and a real department store. The McD and Pizza Hut are outside the historic district. Get a load of this. This town has block after block (after block!) of real gas lights. I mean, they're lit with gas! They're on 24/7 and the effect, especially at night, is absolutely heart-melting. There are farms, organic and otherwise, throughout some of the most beautiful rolling-hills countryside I've ever seen. People don't lock their doors in that town - we checked. Wellsboro is the county seat, so there's a big old courthouse, medical facilities, a beautiful library, the town park with a fountain in the center, and a recreation area complete with basketball court and huge outdoor swimming pool. When folks just have to shop in a mall, they drive to Corning. Of course, jobs are an issue. Be an attorney, work from home, or be content to earn retail wages.
See their website: http://www.wellsboropa.com/
Lonnie C
oh lovely thread! i'm hoping someone will chime in with some more information about the colton,canton,potsdam area. we're putting our farm in vermont up for sale in the spring and thinking that that particular piece of the adirondacks feels right. we love the landscape,college towns within twenty minutes,lots of water everywhere. our vermont place is right outside burlington,and potsdam and canton remind me of burlington around twenty five years ago. it's grown too big for us now,,we're looking for less traffic,more acreage and more time to enjoy retirement!
for the op,spend a weekend or two exploring,it's nice peaceful country up here.
I too would vote for Skaneateles. I live in Tully which is 20 miles southeast of Skaneateles. I am still in tears over the "indian" translation of the name. My in-laws are over the top conservative and live on the lake (2 miles down on the east side) and they'll find that comment probably more than true!
Great little village, though. But beware of real estate prices. Great town, but don't plan on buying a house on the lake for less than $1.5 million
I've lived in Dutchess County for most of my life but if I was going to move, I'd pick Schoharie. Mountains, fields, lovely little towns, inexpensive real estate and yet not too far from Albany if there's medical problems or you want big town shopping. Greene has much the same advantages but more mountainous. Neither of these is as cold as the Adirondacks where the climate makes gardening more limited than further south.
Western part of the state is too flat for me - I want the mountains within sight. And all that snow is discouraging.
We're in Sandy Creek, halfway between Syracuse and Watertown. Lake Ontario, rolling hills, not too much snow (tho 10 miles away they get tons!), boating, fishing, very affordable land, friendly people and the closest Wal-Mart is 40 minutes away. Jenswren check out Pulaski (Oswego County) for a quaint small town atmosphere, excellent schools, great grocery store, drugstore, hardware store (all local) and a nice, easy going lifestyle.
We sold our house and 30 acres (not a farm) in South Hero 2 years ago and haven't looked back. I lived in the Burlington area most of my life but I don't miss it at all. Traffic, big box stores and waaaaay too much money. Here life is slower, more family oriented and considerably less hip. It's a relief, to be frank. As an added plus, the schools are unbelievable (we have a 3rd grader), much better than Vermont IMO. If Canton doesn't pan out, look at Oswego County. We're 40 minutes from the culture of Syracuse and the university, but it's nice and quiet and no traffic.
i am too lazy to read them all, but i will put in a plug for the rochester region. east of rochester you get rolling hills, west it is a bit flat, but the big plus is that that area along the lake and about 15-20 miles in is zone 6! and the snow cover you get makes it pretty easy to raise some thing that are a bugger to raise here in indianapolis were we get all the cold, but not that much snow. freeze thaw croak, freeze thaw croak.
I grew up in Colorado but have lived in New York sate for 25 years, from Wappingers to Saratoga, and lots of spots in between. The best thing about this region is that even if you do have a Walmart close by (or any of the other "don't wants" that you mentioned), you have only to drive 15 minutes away and you're back in the country. Do what I did: get some good local maps and fill your tank (that could be a deal breaker!)....and get lost! Chatham, Saugerties, Sharon Springs, Altamont, Red Hook, Rosendale, Greenwich..........haven't even made a dent.
Piperspal - You sound like me :-)
Whiteport (Bloomington), Rosendale, Kingston, Wallkill, and now Saratoga. It didn't take me long to realize that all of the big boxes are centrally located, which is good, and this area is wonderful for visiting friends. I took a friend who grew up in California to see a real apple orchard out on Rt. 29 and found a great place for gifts, yard stuff, some antiques. Always a fun place to visit.
I'll stop now..... so many good points.
I have not read every suggestion and know this link is old, but have to add this link
Was rated one of the prettiest town in the country last year. It is brimming with history, and has some of the best resturants I have ever been to.
Come visit.
Should add, I am a realtor, and can tell you the banks of Lake Ontario are highly sought after for thier beauty.
As a retired State bureaucrat, I've managed to see all of upstate: the good the bad and the ugly. There are so many really beautiful places, but I am surprised no one has mentioned Cooperstown. Scenic beauty, Glimmerglass opera, nice buildings (very well kept due to foundation that owns practically the whole town), BB hall of fame, etc.
The only people who have lead you right per your "wants" stated in your post is adirondackgardener, wantoretire_did, piperspal and others who suggested the eastern region of NY State. The area out that way is full of quaint villages and beautiful landscapes galore.
Although, Skaneateles is indeed a beautiful little village it's the surrounding area that leaves much to be desired (again according to what you stated in your post) there are many trailor parks in that vicinity which you might not find visually pleasing. I remember Bill & Hillary's visit to this town and Doug's Fish Fry made an announcement that they were not welcome to eat there. Liberal?
I feel that the mid and western regions are less liberal and more pro hunting. I live in the mid region and the Post Office here thinks nothing of displaying a deflamitory cartoon about Hillary on federal property no less!
If I have a chance to do it over again I'll be looking toward the eastern part of the state. :)
Hi all! Just scanning through the posts and I see Mudlady and I are neighbors. I live in the Town of Mentz, Weedsport area. Probably right around the corner from you.
My vote Fingerlakes Region. You can rent a boat and travel literally from one lake to the next and then dock in Seneca Falls and have dinner. No need to set foot on land at all, unless your hungry and the foliage down the waterways is unbelievable!
Anyway my 2cents.
Peru and Morrisonville in Clinton County along with town in the Ausable and Keene Valleys, although towns like Lake Placid have out of this world taxes.
Saranac Lake might actually not be bad, again taxes though.
Southern and Western Jefferson like Alexandria Bay, Cape Vincent, Clayton, Sackets Harbor, Henderson Harbor. They seem to be away but are actually not that far from Watertown.
I really think your best bet though would be St. Lawrence county in Colton, Canton, Potsdam, Parishville, Heuvelton, Lisbon or Madrid. They are near Canton-Potsdam but don't have the taxes, the oridnances, or the people like C-P, but have the healthcare, small-town farm values and schools, like Parishville-Hopkinton, Heuvelton and Lisbon which are all regularly ranked in the top in St. Lawrence County.
I live in Skaneateles, so I know its a great place to be. Other places that came to mind: Seneca Falls, Corning, Ithaca, Geneva (I'm fond of the Finger Lakes Region), Cooperstown, Hamilton, and Clinton.
Lots of good suggestions here. I guess you have some homework to do.
@booberry85, My GF and i just got back from Elmira yesterday. To make a long story short we both live in FL and she wants to move back. Although Elmira isn't my first choice I would consider Corning or ithaca or the surrounding areas.. I've been in FL for 31 years and I'm worried i won't enjoy NY. We all know FL is expensive but I'm worried that I'll go broke living in NY. We are both in Healthcare and have pretty good jobs.
Any tips or areas to look at please let me know... Thanks
I do like both Ithaca and Elmira. Ithaca has the colleges there (Cornell and Ithaca College) which help support the economy. So Ithaca gets hit less hard when the economy takes a down turn.
I'm not going to kid you, NYS is expensive to live in. They seem to have a tax for everything and choking regulations for businesses.
The most important things I would consider are: would your healthcare be supported here in NY? Would you be able to get jobs up here (more reason to move to Ithaca - work at the colleges)? Do you have friends and family that can help you get re-acquainted with the area?
Also how do you feel about winters (heat bills, snow plowing bills, winter clothes?) It was 0 degrees F this morning. We've gotten 2 feet of snow in the last two weeks!
Just some things to consider.
Gaitedhorse, I agree with you about all those towns you mentioned. Marilla and colden are hilly and nice. Colden with the ski resort and the stream running through is very charming. East Aurora Has some very beautiful old homes too. Far enough away from city life, but not too far away from anything you need.
I lived in the Adirondacks, well past the Lake George area. It has a lot that you are looking for and also a lot that you are not. The commutes to work are hard, if you are lucky enough to find work, that is. The weather is horrible, especially in winter. 10' snowdrifts are no fun and no one can help you because they're in the same boat. Spring means mud, mud, and more mud; and the summer is damp and musty. You always feel wet even during a drought.
Now for the really bad. While a lot of the Adirondacks is beautiful, too much of it is like tobacco road, with a lot of ignorant, unfriendly people severly lacking social skills. Fortunately, by the time I was moving out, a lot of people from downstate and Vermont were moving into the area, so that aspect was becoming more bearable. There is a lot of run down delapidated buildings because there are hardly any honest contractors to do any work. Most are criminals looking to rip off a homeowner. As a result, people can't get their homes fixed properly, having to rely on unskilled handymen, and their buildings become run down. And, while I haven't found any building complexes or subdivisions, there are plenty of run down trailors and singlewides around. I guess the single and double wides are a blessing in a place where there aren't many builders.
Now for the cost of living in the country. It is expensive. I lived in a big old Victorian, and despite having the heat (radiators) disconnected for rooms not in use, I still spent almost 10K to heat my house the last winter I was there (2 years ago). Where I live now I have gas heat and while this house is just as big as my last, and insulated just as well, I didn't even hit the 1K mark for both my heat and electric for my present home last year. Looks like it will be a repeat this year too. So you have to take the fact that home heating oil is through the roof into consideration.
Also, there is not much to do that far up north and what there is to do usually involves an exhaustive trek, so you wind up not going anywhere.
I've since moved to the Glens Falls area and while it's not an ideal location, I am so happy to be back in civilization with real sidewalks again, lots of shopping, lots of employment options, lots to do in easy, accessible ways, bearable weather, and sociable people. And best of all, I'm living in the house of my dreams with a managable garden. Anyway, I hope you find the same happiness I have.
Well, I'm not the original poster, but I'm going to ask for some advice anyway! I'll be moving from Saratoga County to Williamsville, NY (outside of Buffalo) in January (best time to move, right!) and was wondering if anyone could share their experiences or thoughts on the area, if they have any :)
Grew up in Williamsville! If you like the suburbs, its a great place to live - great schools, lots of shopping, good doctors and hospitals, close enough to Buffalo if you want to go downtown for night life. Oh, there isn't that much snow in Williamsville, being north of Buffalo. I moved 45 minutes south to Town of Concord, just outside of the Village of Springville. I have rolling hills, a feeling of being in the country, way more snow than I could imagine, no traffic, lots of parks, skiing close by, and all the conveniences of town, including Walmart.
Grew up in Williamsville! If you like the suburbs, its a great place to live - great schools, lots of shopping, good doctors and hospitals, close enough to Buffalo if you want to go downtown for night life. Oh, there isn't that much snow in Williamsville, being north of Buffalo. I moved 45 minutes south to Town of Concord, just outside of the Village of Springville. I have rolling hills, a feeling of being in the country, way more snow than I could imagine, no traffic, lots of parks, skiing close by, and all the conveniences of town, including Walmart.
I am wondering if the original poster moved up here or no? I've lived in Canton and Potsdam. If you can't work for the colleges, it will be rough to get a decent job. Negative 40 in the winter at times but not cooler in the summer unless you get into higher elevation in the 'Dacks. Very inexpensive housing, good apartments are hard to find since all the college kids get them. Flat flat flat, unless you go up to Russell and all the little tiny towns at the foot of the mountains where it starts getting hillier. The Adirondacks have a nice feel to them but yes, there are very poor "North Country" people there. I don't know how "colonial" or "New Englandy" the towns are up there. Ogdensburg, Watertown and Massena are larger cities that have more things going on. I agree with previous posters that Corning/Painted Post is a nice area with culture and Big Flats has the mall and lots of shopping. There are smaller towns in between all the larger cities, everything is rural. Bath, Hammondsport, Penn Yan are great areas too. Hammondsport was awarded Coolest Small Town. The Finger Lakes Area is one of the most beautiful areas; the lakes, wineries, small town feel are wonderful. Houses on the lakes are very pricey but out in the country they are very reasonable. They HAVE to be because there are barely any jobs or opportunities here. Most people who own the lake houses have these as summer homes and travel from the big cities. Buffalo, Rochester, Ithaca, Syracuse are larger and have more things available and you don't have to drive far to get back to the country with hills and farms. Actually between Buffalo and Rochester is a nice stretch of farms, farmer's markets, nice countryside. I grew up near Jamestown which is all the way west. Nice town but poor, again not many good jobs but there is a mall there, stores. Chatauqua Lake is also there and it's beautiful, as well as Chatauqua Institution which is well known for its summer cultural events. It's less than an hour to Erie, PA: lots of shopping, jobs and Lake Erie with beaches. A little east outside Jamestown are the Allegany Mountains which are neat. Anytime you are in rural areas, you will have hunting. Some people are so poor that they have to hunt to have food on the table. I hate hunting but it's something you just have to deal with here. Steuben County is extremely poor and there are trailers around, especially if you go way out into the countryside, but there are lots of nice houses too. Teens are always around, carrying on, but it's not a problem. Angelica is a sweet little town but you will have to drive a ways to get to a big store. Sometimes you just have to drive, visit and see how it makes you feel. You could always rent a house and then really travel all over to find the perfect spot. I haven't been to all of the towns that have been mentioned, but I never have felt the "New England" feeling in any of them. I have been to Lake Champlain but only once and just passing through so maybe it has more of that feeling.
Don't over look the Mohawk Valley Montgomery, Fulton, Herkimer counties. Just hop skip and jump from everything wine country, Cooperstown , New York City, Catskills and the Adirondacks. Nice mix of country charm and box stores, good schools, low crime rate, beautiful farm land. Come check out the heart of NY!


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