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Colorless composition comprising silver particles and water, wherein said particles comprise an interior of elemental silver and an exterior of ionic silver oxide, wherein the silver particles are present in the water at a level of about 5-40 ppm [Thats an 800% range there, what range is adequate to treat a disease and what causes permanent problems?], and wherein the composition manifests significant antimicrobial properties [Which doesn't describe what antimicrobial properties it has]. Methods of use of the composition are described. The composition can be incorporated into a hydrogel with essentially no loss of antimicrobial properties.
Results: In an agar-well diffusion assay none of the three colloidal silver solutions had any effect on the growth of the test organisms. All tested bacterial strains were sensitive to ciprofloxacin. Colloidal silver 22ppm showed no bactericidal activity in phenol coefficient tests.Conclusion: As the tested colloidal silver solutions did not show any antimicrobial effect in vitro on the microorganisms, claims of colloidal silver's antimicrobial potency are misleading and there is no place for it as an antiseptic.
Remember that old nursery song...the Farmer in the Dell....the last stanza goes The Cheese stands Alone....The Cheese Stands alone....that's me ....the cheese....I stand alone....well at least on this subject on this forum...hahahahahah! That's ok...I have a lot of comments to make...both about Silver Sol and star anise....But a clarification needs to be made....I said Silver Sol...not colloidal silverI do not make my own colloidal silver and silver sol can not be made in the home.I can not seem to paste this chart on the differences between colloidal silver and silver sol. So I will paste a link to see the chart of the differences....Note that Silver sol has been lab tested.http://www.guardian-silver-health-supplements.com/silver-sol-vs-colloidal-silver/Also, Please read this about "The Blue Man" Paul Karason whom is featured in ND Martin's video....you will find things are a little different then what the media proposed, and the hoax that followed....which will be my introductory into my comments...http://www.naturalnews.com/035219_colloidal_silver_blue_man_skin.htmFlight Er Doc... I'm stating this first...I respect you very much, and your profession...we just disagree on a few things and I also believe that it is VERY important for a person to have opposing views...that way a person can do research for himself and then make a decision. This prevents the sheeple syndrome...which is deadly...hahhaha! This being said, I would want you as the head of my health team any day. I DO not throw out Doctors or medicines....my recommendation has always been this....if you have an ailment...go to your doctor...Work with your doctor on how to treat yourself....I'm am so fortunate to have a doctor whom doesn't believe in just perscribing pills...she wants us to work the best we can to fix ourselves without medicine...or if she puts you on something...she expects you to work toward getting off the medicine if at all possible.Ok, since I'm using silver sol, I will treat your statement/questions as if they pertain to silver sol. Since I do not make my own, I rely on instructions that are from the bottle. There have been many different studies done on Silver Sol and it's safety. Read the following below: Note the study done by my favorite University Penn StateIn a groundbreaking study, the Journal of Nanotechnology which was conducted by the University of Texas and Mexico University, is the first medical study to ever explore the benefits of silver nano particles, according to Physorg. Dr Rustum Roy of Penn State University is one of the USA's most eminent physical scientists. He reported: ". . . when used alongside a traditional antibiotic, the New Silver Solution has a synergistic effect, thereby extending the life of the efficacy of several antibiotics tenfold". "Newsweek has accurately described him as 'the leading contrarian among U.S. scientists. The U.S. House of Representatives' Committee on Science, Technology, and Research gave him its only standing ovation in 16 years after one of his recent testimonies. A Pennsylvania State University faculty member for sixty years, is among the two or three leading materials scientists in the U.S. Author of over 1000 papers with major contributions to real science from inventing the sol-gel process to glass ceramics to diamond films and nanocomposites and microwave and laser processing of materials." "A new peer-review report from Pennsylvania State University (The number-one-ranked material science lab in the world) was just released after years of studying a number of colloidal silver and silver aquasol products purchased from the U.S. market. The paper was authored by Professor Rustum Roy, along with seven other professors and scientists. The report is titled, "Ultradilute Ag-Aquasols with extraordinary bactericidal properties: the role of the system Ag-O-H2O." On the subject of ionic vs metallic silver for human use, the report states (page 2, fourth paragraph): "In spite of this enormous range of data, it is extraordinary that no major effort has been made to confirm and expand on the role of metallic silver in human health–especially in light of its huge advantage in lack of side effects. (Ingestion of excessive amounts of ionic (soluble) silver , not metallic solid particles is reported to have resulted in a very rare condition labeled argyria, an (irreversible?) darkening of the skin. No one has died of this condition. The safety of metallic silver sols is firmly established by the data cited above.)" An interesting note was released in the Pennsylvania State University scientific paper. It states at the top of page five, "We examined some half a dozen commercially available "silver colloid" products from various manufacturers, but we spent considerably more time and attention on the product of the new manufacturer (American Biotech Labs)." This paper of the esteemed Dr. Roy goes on to state that the reason they chose the Silver Sol technology, by American Biotech Labs, was because their silver solution was made by an extraordinary process, that is patented. "The very potent biologically active silver aquasols contained, typically, the amounts of silver claimed by the manufacturer, typically from 10-30 ppm by weight of Ag. The silver was very pure as was the water." "The dominant, by far, crystalline solid phase detected in the vast majority of SEM TEM studies is metallic silver." In other words, the studies found that the products made by American Biotech Labs were very pure and clean, contained the correct amounts of silver, and were made up of metallic silver particles. The knowledge of optimal particle sizes has helped American Biotech Labs file and receive patents on what the company deems the most bio-active or most effective particle size. American Biotech Labs now owns the rights to these particular particle sizes, and no other company or person can legally make a similar product within approximately the next two decades. Numerous tests at major universities , Governmental, and commercial labs like National Institute of Health, Illinois Institute of Technology, Viridis Biopharma, Pennsylvania State University, University California Davis, Kansas State, University of Utah, Utah State University, Brigham Young University,University of Wisconsin have proven the effectiveness of this particular silver solution product. Any one game enough to contact either of these Universities and call their research pseudoscientific nonsense...hahahahah! Ok, on to it turning to tarnish when it hits the stomach acid....I'm curious, do iron supplements turn to rust when they hit the stomach acid? By the way, my doctor recommended cooking with cast iron to prevent iron deficiency...little side note there...ND Martin...many things get past the stomach acid...when I was in nursing, and taking care of patients...many pills we take pass right through the body...I know this sounds disgusting...but nurses have to examine stools for color, consistency, frequency and visible parasites....you learn to distinguish bits of pills from worms and eggs...hahaahah!
Other than that, it's unicorn flatulence and pixy dust..... I don't discount the placebo effect at all, but if something is NOT REPEATABLE across large populations, it's not science and medicine. As far as people trying different nostrums, as Osler said the tincture of time cures most ailments, in spite of what medicine tries to do.
I wonder why they refer to silver sol as being different than colloidal silver on their chart...Oh well...Doc you are always good for some down and gritty brain picking...does the soul good...I am way past my bedtime and must get to sleep...good night and good health folks...
Hey Doc...are your articles referring to colloidal silver or silver sol? My understanding is these are two different things....and don't quote me on this one...but didn't they suspend the sale of colloidal silver? My articles are referring to silver sol...About the blue people..if I read your articles correctly....those folks used colloidal silver for an extended period of a time...and honestly, didn't someone notice them turning blue? gheeseI call these posts "The War of the Colloidal Silver/silver sol studies" Maybe they will make a movie about us someday...hahahahah The EGG versus the DOC....you know, one of those Japanese movies like Godzilla vs King Kong...with an English do over! hahahahaha! But I want a disclaimer that states "this egg was not used in formulation of flu shots"...hahahahahaha And you can have this big syringe loaded with the flu shot and you can chase the Egg all around...scaring it, and the Egg will be throwing SilverSol all over you...and spraying lavender oil in the air....and then the Egg will be in panic mode and won't see where it is running to and will fall off a giant wall and crack in a million pieces...but then you can be the hero and patch the Egg all up...just like new.... We'll make millions..and have figurines made in our likeness and possibly a sequel...
ok Folks...there has been some pretty strong words tossed around in regards to silversol....I'm posting articles about the Food and Drug Administration approving of American Biotech Lab to market Silversol gel for wound dressing...and then then an article on it's uses in various places....plus it's initial testing on several forms of the bird flu...These article were written in 2007. It's now 2013. I tried to mark specific lines in bold...you will have to scroll down some of the articles...and these articles were taken from medical magazines etc.Also the Environmental Protection Agency has given approval for the use in disinfecting. (All you folks who think Silversol is bad, BEWARE...your dentist might be using it in their dental lines....)If you read these articles...you will see this product is not made at home by kooky weirdos trying to self medicate...patents have been approved, studies conducted by numerous schools...plus the approval of two well known governmental agencies...In one of the articles you will find "no known side affects" no one has ever turned blue because it's made differently than Colloidal Silver.I can't change a persons mind...I can present articles that show its a viable product that DOCTORS are recommending....I have talked to several that use it themselves...one little sidenote I live in an area where we have access to with renowned hospitals (Pittsburgh) In one of the hospitals I was visiting, they actually have special classes and centers to treat patients holistically....including herbal medicine, meditation, etc....this is the new and upcoming medical treatment. Source: American Biotech L Wednesday,Jun 10,2009 The FDA approval letter confirms that ABL may market ASAP Wound Dressing Gel "for the topical management of minor cuts, lacerations, abrasions, 1st and 2nd degree burns, and skin irritations." The product utilizes ABL's innovative SilverSol The FDA approval letter confirms that ABL may market ASAP Wound Dressing Gel "for the topical management of minor cuts, lacerations, abrasions, 1st and 2nd degree burns, and skin irritations." The product utilizes ABL's innovative SilverSol Technology, which has garnered multiple patents in the U.S. and several countries throughout the world, including a broad-use patent that provides the company with exclusive rights to use its silver-based products to combat many of the world's most destructive pathogens, including malaria, tuberculosis, MRSA and HIV. "We are delighted with the FDA's decision to grant approval for ABL to broadly market our ASAP Wound Dressing Gel," said Dr. William Moeller, a managing director of American Biotech Labs. "We feel this is a singularly effective wound care product, and it is a tremendous validation for us that ABL products have now received approval from the FDA as well as from the EPA." ABL has performed extensive anti-microbial studies against bacteria, yeast, fungus and other pathogens. Information about these studies is available at research section of the ABL Website, www.americanbiotechlabs.com/researchprotected/researchmenu.html. About American Biotech Labs American Biotech Labs (ABL; www.americanbiotechlabs.com), founded in 1998, utilizes patented processes and SilverSol Technology® to create singularly powerful and effective nano-catalytic silver products. In extensive testing performed by a variety of respected laboratories and researchers, ABL's silver hydrosol has consistently demonstrated the ability, without any known toxic side effects, to destroy a wide range of bacteria, viruses, yeast, and molds. ABL products have been approved by the by the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) as a disinfectant for dental water lines, and as a surface disinfectant for bacteria, yeast and mold in hospital, residential, commercial and industrial settings; and by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) for wound care. The company's products have been the subject of multiple peer-reviewed articles in professional journals, and are sold worldwide at health food stores and by medical professionals under the Silver Biotics® and ASAP Solution® brands, and through a variety of private labels. Press Contact: Kimball Thomson Next Phase Communications (for American Biotech Labs) email@example.com 801.918.3637 CONTACT: Kimball Thomson of Next Phase Communications, 1-801-918-3637,firstname.lastname@example.com, for American Biotech Labs Web site: http://www.americanbiotechlabs.com/Medical Patent Week Susan Hasty, Publisher Table of Contents . . . October 28th, 2007 Non-Subscriber - Summaries Only Related Areas: Other Issues in Medical Patent Week | Other PublicationsBiomedicine - Maas BiolAB Awarded $2.1 Million SBIR for Cyclosporin ALS TreatmentBiomedicine - The USC Stevens Institute for Innovation Opens Shop on US Health Sciences CampusBird Flu - American Biotech Labs Announces Results of Preliminary Tests for Multiple Avian Bird Flu Strains Using Patented ABL SilverSol Technology(TM)Cancer - NIST Awards $2 Million to 20/20 GeneSystems for Innovative Tumor Profiling TechnologyClinical Trial Research - Noven Announces Results of Phase 3 Clinical Study of Once-Daily Lithium ProductDrug Delivery - Nastech Pharmaceutical Company Announces the Jeffrey Wenig Memorial Award for Outstanding Achievement in Drug DeliveryVaccines - Prof. Michel Klein Becomes Chief Scientific Officer at AMVACBird FluAmerican Biotech Labs Announces Results of Preliminary Tests for Multiple Avian Bird Flu Strains Using Patented ABL SilverSol Technology(TM)Published in Medical Patent Law Weekly, October 24th, 2007 American Biotech Labs (ABL; www.AmericanBiotechLabs.com), creator of a line of powerful products that utilize patented ABL SilverSol Technology(TM) to combat pathogens associated with many of the world's most harmful diseases, announced successful preliminary results on tests performed using the company's products against two strains of the avian bird flu virus. Preliminary in vitro animal study tests performed by two separate independent laboratories, using the company's ABL SilverSol Technology at 10 parts per million against two strains of the H5-N1 subtype of the Avian Bird Flu virus, indicated that the ABL products were able to neutralize the virus.... Want to see the full article? ■Purchase this article for only $3.00
The FDA approved Silversol....I understand the topical use, but it's not topical when they use it for the flu...I still think we are talking about 2 similar but differently produced products...oh well....you sure make a person think..which I will say again is is a good positive thing...even though i disagree..hahahah...And I'm darn sure I'm not changing your mind...hahahaha....but I respect you and your profession immensly....That's the freedom of living in America...it's now well documented on this forum that we disagree...and we both made thorough presentations in a civil manner...so I'm going to move on to a question:For those of you whom don't get the flu shot....I have presented the methods I use to try to ward off getting sick....(I did forget that I try to keep my hands away from my face also) What things do you do to try to prevent getting the flu, when it's running rampant?For those of you whom DO get the shot....do you do anything different? or do you just rely on the shot?interested in seeing what your responses are.This particular strain of flu is very very nasty....it lingers on for a long time....one department at work now, has an entire row, out with the flu....and yet another one today in my department is sick...this brings the total in my department to 5, with one being hospitalized and one not being heard from since the beginning of the week. The doctors around here are telling the ones whom are sick, but not sick enough to be hospitalized, to stay AWAY from other people! like a self quarantine...
The FDA approval letter confirms that ABL may market ASAP Wound Dressing Gel "for the topical management of minor cuts, lacerations, abrasions, 1st and 2nd degree burns, and skin irritations." The product utilizes ABL's innovative SilverSo
While people are free to disagree, I notice that you ignore many of the questions I pose.....while people are entitled to their own opinions, they are not entitled to their own facts.....And there seems to be little support for Silversol and ABL other than their own website and press releases, at least medically. The various patent reports are interesting but unimportant, medically.let me start off by saying this....no matter what thing we are researching....we all can find things to sway our side of the opinion. The search engines now have the capability of directing you to certain sites and not give you the whole scope...all of us can find what ever we want supporting our beliefs...and i also have a boyfriend that is a french model....I'm not ignoring your questions per say....I didn't think they pertained to what i was saying...because I felt they were about colloidal silver...and making colloidal silver...which i don't make...but you believe silversol is the same as colloidal silver. I also feel that the articles that I posted very much support it's use and I'm not posting my own facts...I'm posting the facts in the article (one of which came from a medical magazine)...I didn't make this stuff up in my head.You and I both know, that you are not asking questions for knowledge sake....you are posing them in a "I'm superior" manner.... just make the statement...don't put it in question form...I have been nothing but kind to you, even while disagreeing with you. I can't say you have been the same....You come across as your way and your training is the "ONLY" way...I seem to recall that you and Traumahawk, (another doctor whom once was on this site had a disagreement too!) There are doctors here, whom would vehemently disagree with you...My doctors use Silversol themselves...I have stated repeatedly that I think anyone interested in herbal medicine or alternative medicine should work closely with their Doctor...but you give me no credence what so ever...I don't need your approval...you take one thing I say and twist it...I know about the topical use of silversol...but when they used it for the flu, it was not topical..I only put that one on here so folks could see its topical uses...I post things on here because I believe that folks should have a variety of options to choose from...not just one simple "my way or the highway" point of view...I have my doctors....and let me say this....I had a doctors appointment yesterday...and when I walked in the room, she gave me an "applause"....you have no idea how very sick I was and how far I have come in becoming well...mostly through diet, exercise and herbal medicine...ALL under the Doc's watchfull eye...and I see several specialists in the same hospital, some of them are from foreign countries, and very well schooled. They all consult back and forth on getting me well...sometimes, I have had to use regular medicine...other times I have used herbal remedies.There have been other posts that I have made where you have ridiculed herbal remedies....I am very carefull about what I post on here...I have also repeatedly posted my respect for you as a doctor and your profession. But I will NOT respect arrogance and condescending attitudes. Like I previously said...this is the new way doctors are treating their patients ...and the patient is HUGHLY involved in their own care....no longer is it just a trip to the doctor and he looks at you and tells you what to do.... we sit down with our doctors and discuss options and the best way to treat the ailment...My oncologist and I have a great repore...and he and I have had many discussions on herbal treatment and such....and guess what...he uses silversol...that's where I got the idea from.My parents and sister and my husband and myself all go to different doctors....and you probably would have a coronary about the different herbal medicines that they have been prescribed by their doctors...including red rice yeast, garlic pills, and my sisters doc does NOT advocate the bird flu shot! Imagine that!I don't understand why you seem to have the need to provoke me. I have tried to move on, and joke about our different beliefs, but you continue to try to provoke me..and you have done a good job at that. Congratulations, you are the first person on this site EVER to accomplish that! Even above the guy that called me that "amish egg chick" for defending some of the folks on this site because they were being named called....I'll probably get kicked off for posting this...but it's obvious to me that you are not used to someone opposing you.. I will be sorry if I get kicked off...because I really enjoy this site....but I will walk away standing my ground....and I know my team of Doctors are going to get a real chuckle when I print this off and take it to them!I only wish you well Flight ER Doc...and I truly wish you the best...but I'm not arguing with you anymore, and i will NOT address this anymore, no matter what you post...I thought we could just agree to disagree...To the rest of you folks....now you get to see a MAD egg...not MAD because someone disagrees with me...MAD for the reasons I stated in the post...I probably behaved in an "un" lady like manner...and really let loose...but I'm pretty sure I won't be sorry for saying those things for a least a couple of days.
Ok Doc. Here are a few good articles as an appetizer. The main course is found in the references, but many if not most are not available on the web without fee.A rational general discussion with no sales pitchSilver nanoparticles: mechanism of antimicrobial action, synthesis, medical applications, and toxicity effectsSukumaran Prabhu* and Eldho K PouloseA good look at a method for production of CS and a possible delivery mechanismDissociation of colloidal silver into ionic form through membrane under electric fieldAnother article on iontophoresis that's a little quacked around the edges, just to show that the technique has been around for a while.Silver Helps Regrow Tissues in Hundreds of Patients - Destroyed Cells Regenerate With Silver-Based ProcedureThe snake oil salesmen would cite studies like the following as absolute proof of efficacy, but they're really just very preliminary work...Silver nanoparticles as antimicrobial agent: a case study on E. coli as a model for Gram-negative bacteriaThe Chinese seem to be doing the lion's share of work with AgNP and influenza A. I don't have free access to this one but the abstract is sufficient for this early study. (For those who glaze over at this technical material, there is NO discussion here about drinking snake oil that claims to contain silver nanoparticles to prevent the flu. It just shows that silver can inhibit growth of H1N1 virus.)Inhibitory effects of silver nanoparticles on H1N1 influenza A virus in vitro. This one's an antique (1955) in Portuguese with no abstract available, but the title's tantalizing, eh?Resistance of influenza virus to the oligodynamic action of silver.
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SOUTH BERWICK, Maine — The Marshwood High School baseball team isn't just hitting its stride, it's hitting the baseball — hard and often.
Zach Hodges flew out to center for the second out.
The next seven batters collected hits. Lebel (2 hits, RBI), McCoomb (3 for 3, 2 runs, 3 RBIs) and Robert Jones had RBI singles, Matt Brenner (1 for 2, run, 2 RBIs) and Noah McDaniel (2 for 3, run, RBI) each had run-scoring doubles, and Quintal (2 for 2, 3 runs, 3 RBIs) added a two-run single.
"We were just seeing the ball today," Brenner added. "Their pitcher wasn't throwing badly, we just hit it where he threw it."
Leading 8-0, the Hawks widened the gap to 13-0 in the third with five more runs. Winning pitcher Alex McLean (3 for 3, 3 runs, RBI), Brenner, McCoomb, Tyler Robillard and Deion Stewart had an RBI each.
"We just came up with key hit after key hit after key hit," said McLean.
Quintal's double to right center in the fourth scored McLean from second to get the lead to 14-0.
"These guys hit the ball," said Noble coach Adam Hale. "What they have, 15, 16 hits in five innings of baseball? We probably should have turned a double play in the second. We could have saved 30 or 40 pitches. Seven runs scored after that. They hit the ball."
McLean got the final out on a fly ball to right field."I haven't thrown much throughout my (high school) career," McLean added. "I've done some. But they need me this year. I just have to do everything I can to help this team."Noble is back in action Saturday against Portland at Hadlock Field, where Marshwood is playing Deering today.


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Treatment for cancer can bring about many financial concerns. Medications are expensive - even with insurance, trips to the cancer center add up in gas and parking costs, and if you aren't able to work your income is also affected. This article provides some guidance for dealing with common financial concerns. Ask to speak with a social worker at your cancer center for help with your specific situation.
You should start with REALLY getting to know your insurance plan. I encourage you to actually request a copy of your insurance policy from the company. They MUST supply you with this. Important things you want to know about your plan are:
After you are armed with this information, you can start to assess what your expenses may be, as well as what you can afford and where you may need to access help.
The Cancer Support Community has a fantastic resource, Frankly Speaking About Cancer: Coping with the Cost of Care. This is free and available via download or can be ordered. The Association of Clinical Oncology publishes "Managing the Cost of Cancer Care" and has a podcast and video available about this topic on their website.
There are many organizations that provide financial assistance for transportation, household items/repairs, lodging and other financial supports. Talk with your local social worker about what organizations might be available in your area.
Some patients are "underinsured", meaning their insurance pays only a portion of their bills, leaving them responsible for 10, 20 and even 30 percent of their treatment costs or hospital bills. Talk with someone in the hospital's Patient Accounting department, as many have charity programs or can offer payment plans. In most cases, you would need to show proof of income and provide some financial documents. A patient may be eligible to receive a partial or sometimes complete write off of the bill.
Low-income patients can apply at their local county assistance office or via their state's website for Medicaid/or Medical Assistance. Underinsured individuals are good candidates for the co-pay assistance programs sponsored by advocacy organizations.
There are several organizations that assist with co-pays for medications - both oral medications and those received in an infusion center. These include: Cancer Care, PAF's co-pay relief program, the Leukemia and Lymphoma Society; just to name a few. More in-depth information about co-pay assistance.
For people without prescription coverage, or for those who have exhausted their prescription coverage, many Pharmaceutical companies have Patient Assistance Programs (PAPs) that can provide medications at little or no cost. Ask your physician, nurse or pharmacist who the manufacturer of the medication is and if a PAP is available (you can often find information about PAPs on the company's website). Once you complete a PAP application, the physician will need to sign it and provide financial documents showing your income and/or assets. Once approved, the company will arrange to ship the medication to either the patient or the physician's office for pick-up. There are income guidelines for all of these programs. Needy Meds is a wonderful online resource for finding PAP programs and other resources for financial support for medical treatments.
Another great resource for low cost medications is Rx Outreach. This program offers low cost medications to qualified (financially) individuals via mail order. They cover some cancer medications as well as medications that are helpful for symptom management including depression, anxiety, seizures, nausea, and reflux.
Many branches of the American Cancer Society offer assistance with transportation costs, including gas cards and mileage reimbursement. The ACS also has a "Road to Recovery" program that can help by providing rides to treatment by volunteer drivers if they are available. You can contact them (1 800 ACS 2345) or ask your social worker at your treatment site to make a referral.
If you are diagnosed with a blood cancer (Leukemia, Lymphoma or Myeloma), you are eligible for a $100 annual stipend from the Leukemia & Lymphoma Society, which can help offset the cost of gas. Your social worker will need to help you apply for this benefit.
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You may need to travel far from home to receive a specific treatment, putting additional strain on your finances. There are a few resources for housing when traveling for treatment. The American Cancer Society (1-800-ACS-2354) has 31 "Hope Lodges" around the U.S., which offer a place for patients and caregivers to stay while getting treatment away from home. Joe's House is a good resource to locate lodging resources near your treatment facility. Many offer low cost or discounted rates for patients and caregivers. Host for Hospitals is a program in the Philadelphia area that connects patients with local residents who provide a "host home." Contact the social worker at the treatment facility who can assist you with resources for lodging in that area.
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March 26th, 2012, 02:44 AM #1
The Hunger Games
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Seeing as how I just wrote a review for the novel, I will skip the small talk as well as the plot synopsis (the movie adaptation has the decency to follow the book pretty closely), and go straight to the question of whether The Hunger Games has made a good transition from the pages to the big screen.
I would say that considering the source material, it definitely has. The movie is a well-paced and compelling affair, following the book yet straying when the narrative flow demands it. I disagree with very few changes (the lack of the Avox storyline, the diminished presence of Rue and Haymitch and the missing origin of the wolflike creatures), and as a whole I think that director-screenwriter Gary Ross, with the help of the book's writer Suzanne Collins, has created the best possible script to both honor and not be constrained by the original.
That said, The Hunger Games falls short in weird ways, becoming a strange mirror of the novel's shortcomings (check out my review). What dystopian traits the books tells about, the visual adaptation is trying to show. Shaky cam is used freely in the District 12 scenes and the action sequences to depict the almost documentary day-to-day misery of the people outside the Capitol, and the immediacy of the fight for survival. The contrast with the oppressing opulence of the Capitol, where everything is monumental and the people are colorful, pale and strangely lifeless in their joy, is striking. At the same time the director and the operator exhibit real talent in not a few occasions, with wonderful camera angles and artful scene dynamic, with the bread flashback as my particular favorite. Special effects are used to enhance rather than steal the scene, and are again combined with a distinct visual style that you can recognize among the pile of "same old" that modern Hollywood presents to us in recent years.
At the same time however, none of these elements really lasts long enough for it to stamp itself in your memory. It's all kinda there, but not really. The visuals of the Capitol are kinda marvelous and threatening, but not really. The action is kinda stressful and frantic, but not really. Even acting is kinda pretty good - especially in the cases of Haymitch (Woodie Harrelson) and Effie Trinket (Elizabeth Banks) - but not really, and this last one is a huge shame, because both the characters and their corresponding actors could do so much more if the script would just utilize them.
Katniss herself is shockingly more likeable than the book version. Not that Jennifer Lawrence is that special - in fact I felt that she had slightly more curves than a child coming from a starving community should, and she was constantly giving me a vaguely unpleasant vibe - but since we are out of her head, there is no need to be witness to her embarrassing singlemindedness and her inability to see what's right in front of her face when it comes to Peeta.
With all this criticism, it might not be entirely clear that I actually enjoyed the movie adaptation of The Hunger Games the same way as I enjoyed the original. In fact, in some ways, it is even a little bit better. It has a flawed grace and as far as adaptations of hit YA novels go it's top notch. In fact, it's easily among the best ones of recent years. The movie has its own distinct visual style, and there is not a single dull moment in it. Most of its failings come from the source material and are unavoidable, and the ones it has invented on its own do not really detract from the enjoyment. It's a sad fact that - just like the book - it could simply have been much better. The potential is there, and even if the end result is good, it bugs me when I could tell it could have been amazing. Oh well, they still have two more movies to get it right. In the mean time, this one is definitely worth watching.
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March 26th, 2012, 05:38 AM #2Spoiler:I didn't like that they basically took the temperature, thirst and Katniss' relationship with her father completely out of the story. They pared down the stuff on the train to almost nothing, so then when they get to the Capitol Katniss' reactions to the stylists seems almost out of character. I agree some of the scenes were visualized pretty well but just as many I thought were done in a silly Hollywood sort of way.
Anyways, I give it more like 6/10.
March 26th, 2012, 11:23 AM #3
I have yet to see the movie.
I've never really gotten over the fact that the book is Battle Royale. I mean - I actually prefer it to the over-cliched Japanese tournoment, and there's a lot more outside information.
But when the MAIN plot revolves around the same plot device so... blatently, it's always kinda' struck me as 'Author read/watched BR; wanted to rewrite it better; cashed in.'
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Saw The Hunger Games. It's a keeper.
Yes, there were deviations from the book but they were justified by the needs of the movie. Little things such as who presented Katniss with the mockingjay pin eliminated the need for more explanation and made the script that much more taut. The reviewer who complained that the scene of Katniss and Peeta at the end of the book missed the fact the scene was competently suggested by the final dialogue between the two. The scenes of Wes Bentley as Seneca Crane and his crew orchestrating the flow of the games gave a much more clear depiction of the game show trope that the book satirized than the book did. The movie was a complete whole and you cannot ask for more.
The cast was superb. I had reservations about the casting of Peeta but Josh Hutcherson was excellent. Stanley Tucci as Ceasar Flickerman was superb. He performed the role to pitch perfect and his bits of commentary during the game were so accurate I almost fell off my chair LMAO. Elizabeth Banks made Effie seem real and that was not an easy feat. Even Woody Harrelson turned out be better than I had anticipated.
Jennifer Lawrence is as good an actress as we've seen. So much of the movie concentrated on her in close-up requiring expressions to fill in for missing thought streams and she played it to perfection.
The violence required by the book came across as horrifying without the need for concentrating on the gore. That was appropriate ass the gore wasn't the point, the games were the point.
The sole objection I have is to the use of the hand-held camera, particularly at the movie's outset. I feared the whole movie was shot with that technique but my fears were misplaced. The opening was just too jumpy for my tastes.
My compliments to Gary Ross and crew. That was great entertainment.
March 28th, 2012, 09:49 PM #6
Besides, Battle Royale was not exactly a mainstream blockbuster in the USA, so if Collins claims she's never seen it, she might be actually telling the truth.
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Thought the film was much better than the book. A well realised vision of a future that might not be far away. Youth fighting to stay alive. Youth fighting for jobs in our current society. Everything so competitive and very little consideration or those less able.
I think it should also make people who engage 'reality tv' have a look at themselves?
April 5th, 2012, 06:45 AM #8
The similarities between "Battle Royale" and "The Hunger Games" are really quite superficial, and I honestly don't see everyone's assertion the the latter stole from the former.
"The Hunger Games" is clearly and obviously a retelling of the myth of Theseus and the Minotaur; a fact the author herself has openly acknowledged.
Even on a really basic level, the premise to the two stories is significantly different; in fact the only real similarities is "children on an island fight to the death" in which case both of them ripped off "Lord of the Flies".
April 18th, 2012, 03:38 AM #9
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Thanks for this all, the movie was good to watch and it got good revies and viewers rating.
April 18th, 2012, 10:25 AM #10
Saw the movie. It's better than the Harry Potter junk but I wouldn't take the time to read the book. Barely science fiction. I suppose it is a satire of reality television but an otherwise shallow story.
Rite of Passage by Alexei Panshin is far better.
April 19th, 2012, 06:28 AM #11
Like I said, I know only the main plot premise is the same with lots of changed and added elements, and if anything, I prefer The Hunger Games. However, the whole 'set tournoment by an evil state leads to Rebellion,' thing is a lot more specific than any of the list of examples, except Ender's Game which I haven't read so can't comment on.
Anyways, I saw the movie. It had good entertainment value though the actual 'Games' part seemed a little dry - most deaths were off screen. It would have been nice for it not to be so obvious who was going to live or die. I also find it hard to believe that some really young kid has never died before in these things, so why did Rue's death shock people into riots?
I loved the reality-TV/Sponsers element, I loved Katniss being a semi-competant main character. The scene with the arrow and the judges was nice. Oh, and Woody! YEY!
I would have wrote it different, I think. Made the battleground somewhere near District 12, and had Katniss recognize the deer from a few days prior, since they were so 'rare'. Then they plan an escape and Rebel that way. The whole 'Oh, they win,' was too obvious, and repeating the format for a second book isn't appealing to me, personally.
April 19th, 2012, 06:38 AM #12
It has been a couple weeks or so since I saw the movie, but it has stuck with me. It was intense and beautiful and held me and took me away like no movie has done in quite a while. Can't wait for the sequel.
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April 20th, 2012, 08:46 AM #14
No sir, didn't like it.
So many problems with the entire premise. If this has been going on for 75 years, why isn't every district training their children to survive this thing instead of sitting around hoping they don't get picked? If volunteers are allowed, why doesn't every district offer up trained, fit 18-year olds instead of taking the chance some poor 12-year old gets picked at random? If this is the television spectacle it's depicted to be, why are any of the tributes remotely surprised by anything they encounter, since it seems like every step of the process is documented by dozens of cameras? It just feels like Collins hit on the "teens as gladiators" idea and didn't fully think through the implications. Now, if this had been the story of the very first Hunger Games, all those problems go away. But then you'd lose the reality TV aspect that she seems insistent on including.
Another issue is that Katniss never really has to make any hard moral choices. The tributes she kills are clearly portrayed a psychopathic bad guys. She's never forced into the decision to kill someone who's just as terrified as she is or be killed herself. It's all just too neat and neutered for something that's supposedly such a vicious blood sport.
And what's with films these days thinking they have to hold our hands? We get the opening title cards that explain how the Hunger Games came about, then we go to the interview with Wes Bentley further explaining them, then we go to District 12 and eventually the propaganda video explaining the Games again. Why not keep us in the dark? Why not have us wondering what it is everyone is getting so worked up about? Why not have the moment Sutherland appears on-screen explaining the Games be when we realize what's about to happen to these kids? That's effective filmmaking. What they did her was just fan-service.
April 20th, 2012, 10:53 AM #15
A lot of the issues you raise were addressed in the book but you are right to complain. One of the main shortcomings of the movie IMO is that it didn't get across a lot of important things from the book!


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Thursday, 2 February 2012
paper piecing
Issue 8 of Fat Quarterly - with a theme of paper piecing. It's out now!
I hold my hands up - this scares the pants off me.
As does this...
And this...
Although I'm not scared by this one...
or this...
I can happily hand sew bits of fabric around paper shapes all day long (actually, not during the day - it's saved for the evening) but tell me to use my machine and a printed picture of something and I'm lost.
Kerry's teapot looks like a gentle easing into what scares me hugely, don't you think?
If you like paper piecing, or want to master it then this issue of FQ is for you - plus Delores is planning a sew along so it's a perfect way to have some hand holding.
Pop and get yours here and don't forget to check out the sew along (plus - you know Kerry? Well, she'll be teaching at the Fat Quarterly retreat in June. yup. I may be lurking in the background for that workshop pretending to tidy or something trying to get tips, if you spot me, ignore me, I'll be quiet as a mouse.
16 comments:
- Eli said...
I just read my copy of Fat Quarterly 8 yesterday in bed. Wow, so many projects; I'm chomping at the bit to try everything but I think I might start with the pot holder.
- 2 February 2012 at 08:15
- Jessie @ Messy Jesse said...
your right, Kerry's teapot looks like a nice project to get to grips with paper piecing, I can't resist that lovely clock too! may just have to purchase my first copy :)
Jessie, xo
- 2 February 2012 at 08:22
- maria said...
It's a great issue. So many patterns. I'm hoping to make the clock. Did you get my email about the workshop at Patch Fabrics?
- 2 February 2012 at 09:39
- Shannon said...
I have been in love with Fat Quarterly for the past two years (I think I found it around the release of issue 2...). I also taught myself paper piecing a few months ago, but I need to add dimension to houses (you didn't think I would start with something easy, did you?) - this issue is MAGICAL!! I'm going to make my way through the projects as a way of learning the ins and outs of paper piecing and how to design a template! Big thanks to you and the rest of the FQ team for another amazing issue!!!
- 2 February 2012 at 11:41
- Laura @ Needles, Pins and Baking Tins said...
Just read my issue on my lunch break. Lovely stuffs! The house is epic, and scary! Might start with the clock :-)
- 2 February 2012 at 13:19
- Kelsey said...
I've been reading through it too and paper piecing is scary!! I just need to jump in and try it out
- 2 February 2012 at 13:58
- Spoolhardy Girl said...
Just got mine! I'm not scared a bit. That's the beauty of being completely without a clue. I don't know enough to be afraid! :)
- 2 February 2012 at 14:26
- Kerry said...
Promise teapot is straightforward- I minimised the bits where precise points matching was needed. I will pretend I haven't seen you at the workshop
- 2 February 2012 at 15:50
- Lynne said...
This stuff makes me want to run the other way, but that clock and teapot are calling me!!!
- 2 February 2012 at 16:03
- Flying Blind... said...
I want to be in Kerry's class so much!! I want to sit up front, bring her an apple and everything! x
- 2 February 2012 at 20:38
- **nicke... said...
i bought mine this morning! i can't wait to make that star pillow!
- 2 February 2012 at 20:44
- Noas' Libellule said...
I love the tree pillow case. So beautiful... If you are scared I haven't got a chance!
- 2 February 2012 at 21:43
- Sarah@PingsAndNeedles said...
What a great post ... I felt exactly the same way about each of these projects! I really really really want to make flossybossy's spring clean quilt ... I think it is brilliant and beautiful.
Coffee pot too ...
I think this issue is a standalone perfect guide to paper piecing. I can't wait to get stuck in.
After the Swoon ...
- 2 February 2012 at 22:45
- Katy Cameron said...
I love foundation paper piecing, can't wait to try the freezer paper method now :o)
- 3 February 2012 at 00:33
- Rachael Rabbit said...
I'm utterly grateful for an introduction to this website. I LOVE paper piecing.
- 7 February 2012 at 02:25
- Sylvie - Madame Créative said...
Oh Katy,
you can really start with the clock! There is nothing really difficult in it, and you can definitely make it in an afternoon! And I am here if you need more explanations ;)
You will see that paper piecing is super fun!
- 22 February 2012 at 20:22
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9. A Mistimed Blow
"Do not take out your ill temper on me, my lord Prince," she said scathingly, "You lost. Had it been my pleasure, you would be dead."
Celeborn tossed the shield on the ground and kicked it, though not so harshly as to do it harm. "If I bore my own weapons, you would be dead," he said. "That lock would have broken the blade of your sword, an' I used an axe." He took off his helmet and combed his fingers through his hair - brighter than the polished steel. "And I am accustomed to wielding a weapon in the off hand, not a shield - that would have been a killing blow, had I my knife."
Nerwen put her own shield down more reverently on the turf, where it all but disappeared into long grass and waving buttercups. Where they had fought a swathe lay trampled, but it began to spring up again even as she watched. The practice ground was deserted. Apart from them the only living things were meadowlarks singing in the twilight. The sun was going down - a great wrack and glory of madder and gold in the west, and the heavens seemed all around them here, bathing their mail and their weapons in glory.
"You fall instinctively into your own style," she said, "Whenever you are pressed. And while it's a good style with the axe, it will not help you learn the sword."
"I begin to wonder why I want to."
By the side of the meadow there lay a fallen tree, left to provide homes for mushrooms and hedgehogs, which also served as a bench. Celeborn sat there, and after a pause, looking out at the curtain of fire between herself and the West, she came and sat by him. It was peaceful. Mist had begun to arise beneath the trees, and spill in long runnels of cool translucence out among the cornflowers. Dimly, in the East, stars began to shine, and the moon was a crescent of white in a pale blue sky.
"The sword is the weapon of Kings," Nerwen said, reflectively, "Symbol of power and authority. The axe ...just makes you look like an overgrown dwarf."
Celeborn laughed and stretched out his long legs, linking his hands behind his head. "I little care what I look like, and I am no King. Besides, the axe is the traditional weapon of my people - why should I be other than they?"
Over the last few months, Nerwen thought, they had done much together - he keeping her company while Finrod became more and more absorbed in the planning of Nargothrond - and this was one of the things she found most frustrating about him. "But surely you will be a king one day? Your birth entitles you, and you have strength and wit enough. What is lacking?"
"Only the desire. Elu is my king, and I am content."
His contentment was all too obvious, and she found she both admired and begrudged it, depending on her mood. It was very alien to her - she had inherited in full the drive and restlessness of the Noldor, who understood neither the settled security of the Vanyar nor the drifting happiness of the Teleri. "Yet I should like to be a Queen," she said with tart asperity.
His eyes widened, as though he had seen something astonishing in this reply, and then he looked away with a slow, delighted smile.
"Is it so amusing to you, that I might rule my own country?" she said, nettled "What makes you grin so?"
"My own thoughts."
"Share them with me then."
"I will not," he unstoppered his water flask to take a drink, passed it to her, "I deem the time not ripe."
Taking a mouthful of watered wine, she felt herself filled up with annoyance. How could he be so blunt at some questions and so provokingly silent at others? "I have learned many things from Melian these past months," she said, threateningly. She would not be made the butt of some private joke. "I could ferret out these thoughts of yours did you will it or no."
"Yes, you could." he looked back, his voice gone hard with warning, "And the cost would be our friendship. I will not have you meddle in my mind like Morgoth in the thoughts of his orcs."
The moon had waxed and waned a half dozen times and more since they had met, and in that time Nerwen had begun to see that beneath the rough surface of the Prince of Doriath there lay a complex and intriguing man, surprising wise, surprisingly kind. But it could not be denied that his turn of phrase was unfortunate in the extreme. "I would not by any means emulate the Enemy," she said, managing to be light hearted about the slight. It was she, after all, who had offered the first offence. "Keep your secrets - I doubt they could insult me worse than this comparison."
He laughed and stood, stretching. "Well, I'm to work - I hold court today. You?"
"To Melian, she and Luthien are teaching me to spin the web of those grey cloaks you Sindar wear. It is quite an art!"
"Indeed. Shall I see you here tomorrow?"
"Before that, even," Nerwen gathered up her shield. Her feigned amusement transformed into anticipation. She could not resist a parting dart. "For I'm sure you will not miss Daeron's recital this dawn-tide, and I would hope to hear your insights into the work. If they are not too delicate to share."
Celeborn sang to himself on the way to the bath, his court robes over his arm and his heart light. 'Should you not like to learn the use of a sword? I will teach you, if you would.' She had said, little over a month ago, in the rain, as they stood beneath the same oak and looked out at Finrod, blade-dancing in the downpour. Finrod had seemed a flame unquenched, leaping, radiant in the grey, and Celeborn had thought of little but the beauty of it, in taking up the offer. Well...that, and the excuse to spend more time with the lady. He did not know then, he believed that she did not know, even now, it was the root of a seedling which might grow up into hope.
'I will teach you the sword.'... 'The sword is the weapon of kings.'... 'Do you not want to be a king?'.... 'I want to be a Queen.'
She was mighty, fair, incisive, and endearingly vain. He enjoyed her company and believed she liked his. But this was the first indication that - however vague the stirrings - she was beginning to wonder if their futures might run together.
He bathed with no awareness of the water. Folk greeted him and he noticed the greetings a little to late to return them, distracted as he was. Dressing absently he checked twice to be sure he was neat, and still did not know.
If no one interfered, in the next five or ten years he could take this little seed and nurse it into a great tree beneath which they could both shelter. Only time was needed, and that he had in abundance.
It was going to be hard to maintain a pretence of Magisterial sternness, when he so felt like grinning for joy.
The workroom of Melian was full of lamplight, blended of gold and silver in a heartbreaking echo of the Trees. The walls were covered with tapestries and storied hangings of many colours; depictions of the Valar, of the garden of Lorien. A cunning mirror brought a square of the night sky down into the cave, so they could look out as if from a window at Menelvagor, bestriding the sky. To the left hung a scene of Oromë, discovering the elves by the waters of Cuivienen. To the right - all pearl and mithril on a sea of palest blue - a depiction of Swan Ships off the coast near Tol Eressea. This last, Nerwen thought, must be taken from dream, or vision, for Melian could never have seen the ships in waking life. And now she never would. They had been burnt - Feanor destroying the master-work of others in chasing his own masterpiece, betraying his kin who had followed him to their own ruin, leaving his brothers to walk to Ennor, across the grinding ice, or to perish in the attempt.
She did not look at that picture as she sorted yarn and warped the great loom.
"I want more gold for this," said Luthien, and rose to pause in the doorway, "I will run down to the workshops and see if the naugrim have any." She leaned over, plucking a mist grey thread from Nerwen's tangle, "This one should be in the sixth shed, not the fourth. Is there aught I can get for you?"
"Thank you no."
On Luthien's departure, there was silence for a while, though Melian's gaze beat upon Nerwen's bent head like the heat of the sun. Then the Queen of Doriath said, "Nerwen, have you received welcome here?"
"I have, Lady," she smiled, "As though I came home from a great journey."
"Yet you repay us with silence."
Nerwen looked at her hands and wished fervently that she was outside at swordplay once more. True, Elwë and Melian, Luthien and...and all their people, did not deserve this of her. Feanor did not deserve her protection. But she would not be like him, she would not backstab her own kindred. Not now, when Maedhros' torment and Fingon's heroism had drawn the Noldor back into one folk. "Though it grieves me to do you discourtesy," she said, "The secrets I have are not my own to share."
Melian withdrew the weight of her glance and stitched the white wing of a bird in flight. Into the silence her voice fell both serene and commanding, like the voices of the ocean. "The Noldor speak never of the Valar, nor have they brought any message - not even from Olwë or his people, who went away. And if we speak to them of returning they say 'we may not' and then lie. For what cause were the high people of your folk driven forth as exiles from Aman? And what evil lies on the sons of Feanor that they are so haughty and so fell?"
"We were not driven forth." Nerwen raised her chin, her pride flaring, "We came of our own will. For vengeance for Finwë, and for the Silmarils." Then she told Melian of the glorious jewels and their theft. But still she said nothing of the Kinslaying, or the Doom of Mandos, or the Oath before Iluvatar which had already chained the sons of Feanor in such madness.
"You have not told me all." Melian said, her face as still as a mountainside. Beneath her fingers there spread the flutter of Telperion's leaves, many shades of dark green and silver. Her presence was golden and heavy, like the light which broods on earth before a storm. "But from what you have told me, I guess much. A shadow you would cast over your journey here, but it is a shadow thrown to cover evil. Deeds have been done which Thingol should know, for his guidance."
In her childhood in Aman, Nerwen had not conceived that light could have a pressure, that holiness and innocence could cause pain, but it was so. She felt torn apart under the Maia's gaze. I have found folk I want to belong with, and I do not wish to deceive them. But I do not want them to know, either. I could not bear it if ...they... were to look on me with abhorrance.
She despised her pain. Yet I am Nerwen, daughter of Finarfin of the royal house of Finwë, and no umanyar is going to make me feel like this. "Perhaps," she said, simply, "But he will not hear of them from me."
***p>Luthien returned with her hands full of overflowing light and poured on the table gold thread as fine as gossamer and gems pierced for stitching. Then Melian rose. Her hair fell about her like a cloak; shadow enfolding splendour. "I must speak with Elu," she said, and departed. When she had gone, it felt as though summer had passed to autumn.
Nerwen came to stir the gems with her finger, to watch the ripples of colour they made as they worked upon the lamplight. She did not like the dwarvish step-cut in which they had been shaped, which made the colour seem richer, but reduced their sparkle. Now, however, was not the time to say so.
"Bad?" said Luthien.
Nerwen looked up. "Bad enough." She tried to smile. Her mouth had forgotten how.
"Aye. We have all seen this darkness in you," Luthien said lightly, "And wondered at it. And at last Mother said she would come out and ask you. Did you tell her?"
"No," Nerwen said, "But I wonder at you. You have welcomed us and feasted us, learned and taught and played with us, and we thought...we thought you saw nothing until now. Why would you be so kind if you knew we were marred?"
Luthien unwound some gold thread and held it up as if testing the colour against Nerwen's hair. She shrugged and gave a comely grimace of resignation. "You are family. Is that not enough? I just wish you would tell us, so we could have the argument and the reconciliation, and get it over with. You will have to speak, at least, before you and Celeborn get married. It cannot be the sort of secret you keep from your husband."
"My what?" This was so unexpected that Nerwen recoiled from it as from a literal blow, taking a step back, raising her hands defensively. Her mind likewise reeled and for a time she was speechless, though aware enough to be insulted by the clear sincerity in Luthien's eyes. "I think you have misunderstood. If we have been close it has been as friends. I do not regard him in such a light, and he, I am certain, does not see me so."
The past half year wavered as an image caught on water. 'Galadriel' she thought. Even the best of friends might consider the gift of a name too personal to hazard, but it was customary for lovers. She had slapped him back for it, and he had seemed to take the correction, but suppose he had merely feigned a change of heart, deceived her since, regarding his intent?
"He does though," said Luthien warily, "Love you, I mean. He said so." She sat down, turning a great sapphire over and over in her fingers, watching it, crestfallen. "I am sorry. I thought you knew."
"He said so?" if she had been incensed before that anger was now white hot. She clenched her fists and tried not to loom over the Sinda, but she could not keep the contempt from her voice. "And has he been saying this to all of Menegroth and I the last to hear?"
"You are unjust!" Now Luthien stood, her grey eyes glinting like spearpoints, to match Nerwen stare for stare. "He told Father, who had the right to know - in case he wished to veto such an alliance - and Father told me. And I would not have said a word had I known your mind. Though I do not understand why you are so up in arms - you are together all the time, you light up when you see him, you even laugh, sometimes. And if rumour flies round Doriath that you will soon be wed it is not I but your own behaviour that has made it seem so."
"I..." Nerwen felt huge with intolerable emotion. "I must think on this." Surely this was how Maedhros had felt in Thangorodrim - in agony he was helpless to relieve whether he writhed and cried out, or lay still. She had been betrayed by her closest friend, and now she was being blamed for it? "I must..."
She turned and swept through the door, unsure if she wanted to do murder or to weep.
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I wish there was a way to hide posts from trolls.
I wish there was a way to hide posts from trolls.
I wish you lots of fun on your trip to Seattle from April, 23rd until April, 27th, Michael. Surely you will be excited by the Seattle Asian Art Museum you're coming for
Michael Larabel
"alkoholfreies" is not a noun it describes how something is
"Bier" is the noun because of this you write Bier big and alkoholfreies with a tiny letter.
also in german you have to pin your supject "in DASS" means the target is bier museum.
also you have to specify your target museum is the general target but "FÜR" is the specify pin means its a museum for the alcohol free beer.
and yes die Deutsche Sprache ist eine schwere Sprache! (German language is a hard language)
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This thread is so odd, with demands of public news from Valve, and Mac hate.
There's a few good reasons why Valve would have interest in Linux.
They're probably not fans of the new consoles. The new consoles are basically PCs but with app stores. Those app stores are probably going to kill Steam, or at least attempt too. Microsoft will have games for the next generation Xbox that'll also be playable on PCs and tablets. Sony will stick with X86 to retain that compatibility, while Microsoft will probably go ARM.
Now imagine yourself as Valve who has built this huge service called Steam. What Microsoft and Sony is doing is taking away this business from Valve. This is where the rumors of the Steam console comes in. Whatever the hardware they decide to use, they'll have to contend with an OS first.
#1 They could use Windows and load up a Steam UI to take over. Though this will risk having users bypass this to download games off Microsoft's app store.
#2 Working with Apple to create this Steam machine might work, but Apple wouldn't want to work with them. In fact, they'll want their games on their app store and forget about Steam.
#3 Create a working version of Steam for Linux and try working around a lot of the existing graphical issues that exist. Most likely resulting in the creation of the Steam app, and possibly the Steam distro.
Valve feels threaten by Microsoft and Sony as they want to take a piece of the pie.
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The PS4 CPU & GPU are being made by AMD.
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