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This is discussion archived from a time before the current discussion method was installed.
: I think that a lot of people here have forgotten the difference between an
Idiot Plot
and an
Idiot ''Ball''
. As near as I can tell, the difference is: An
Idiot Ball
only requires for one or two characters to carry it for the plot to advance, but an
Idiot Plot
most or all
of the characters to act like idiots. Yes, there are plenty of genuine
Idiot Plot
examples, but there are also a lot of plain old
Idiot Balls
. Shouldn't we be a bit more discerning?
Snakeofthe West
: I'm new to this wiki and not real sure on the rule or dicussion policy, but I have this add to the Firefly example of Idiot Plot:
also don't forget that Tracy's original plan was smuggling organs in his own body. Specifically that the people he was smuggling them for had his originals, so after he go the high tech organs to their destination, he could have his own back. Then he found another buyer for the organs he was smuggling. He clearly didn't think this through very carefully, because while someone might pay him for the organs he currently has, only the people that he betrayed have his original organs. Not only does he make this seemingly stupid mistake, during whole discussion of this problem, no one brings this up.
Radioactive Zombie
: I'm sorry, did the person who put up R6 here read it properly? IIRC, the villain did it because he was an eco-terrorist.
Morgan Wick
: It should be noted that in a comedy, an
Idiot Plot
is (theoretically) not necessarily bad, if the whole
is to laugh at what idiots everyone is. Which come to think of it, may (very partly) explain a lot of
Three's Company
: I can't believe the
example completely neglected the fact that
Nathan stepped in for a heroic sacrifice even though, not only can Peter fly (and teleport) himself making it completely unnecessary for Nathan to carry him, but the whole situation would have been easily averted had Claire just shot him. There was no good reason for Nathan to die there, they just wanted to kill the character.
That episode was such a
Wall Banger
Shire Nomad
: Duck, I'm pretty sure Peter had to maintain focus just to keep from exploding on the spot; no flying or teleporting possible. The stuff already on the main page for the episode is legit, though.
I'm also pulling one of the "Landslide" examples: if
DL had gone intangible, the bullet would have gone through him into Niki, defeating the purpose of stepping in front of it
: Aside from what
Shire Nomad
said, bear in mind that
Nathan knows how the regeneration works, and that if Claire shoots Peter in the base of the brain he's permanently dead. But he doesn't know for sure that the exploding will kill Peter (and we know from "Five Years Gone" that it wouldn't). Nathan is sacrificing himself (not that there's any doubt in my mind that he'll survive this) for his little brother as much as for the world.
Shale: I'm stowing this example from Heroes here until we've got some confirmation in the show that this is actually how that event played out. Later,
despite how several people are still healthy, alert, and armed with loaded guns, no one manages to see Sylar recover from his injuries and then drag himself several feet to a manhole so that he can escape. No one even delivers a coup to make sure the job is done.
I'm also pulling one of the "Landslide" examples: if
DL had gone intangible, the bullet would have gone through him into Niki, defeating the purpose of stepping in front of it
You shouldn't have. Remember that he can also
make OTHER people intangible
— a fact that was established in the prelude to that scenario. Basically, the purpose in question is already self-defeating (i.e. an Idiot moment).
INH: I removed the
Peter should have flown away on his own
example. The writers explained that Peter can only use one power at a time in an interview here:
: Peter would not have been able to read his father's mind, as Arthur was also a telepath and could have prevented him from doing so.
: I've never seen
Three's Company
, And that's why I'm putting this into question: doesn't "Pretty much every episode of
Three's Company
" qualify on the "characters are supposed to act idiot" exception?
Twin Bird
: I remember reading somewhere about the "second-order idiot plot," a
Speculative Fiction
story that takes place in a society that would cease to function if the vast majority of the people in it weren't idiots. Do we have an entry for that?
H. Torrance Griffin: The X-Factor entry is edging toward discussion, so I will continue thing here
The first
mutant-hunting squad. Government-sanctioned and private-hate-group mutant hunters were around in plenty before X-Factor. Not to mention do-it-yourself lynch mobs. And to be fair, its not like commercial mutant hunters proliferated widely
, either.
The message sent to the general population (both 'human' and mutant alike) by a well advertised commercial operation dedicated to containment of Menacing Mutants is rather different than the one sent by terrorists and black ops orgs lurking in the shadows (or even lynch mobs). Would it me worth the trade-off if the mantle of the former were the only way to get to mutants before the latter did? One can make that argument; but the idea that a quintet containing two of the most well known, well connected, and publically accepted mutants (one of whom having money coming out of his ears*) would regard such a plan as the only option... call it
Plot-Induced Stupidity
, call it
Executive Meddling
to keep them away from Xavier's, but do not call it remotely sensable.
(*: And that is another thing. An 'outed' mutant bankrolling a mutant-hunting team,
will go well
someone digs enough to find it out.)
Peteman: I thought the Rebel Cruisers were there to A: take out any ships that might have been there (though they were probably expecting maybe 3 or 4 ships rather than a few dozen that were there, which would make sense since the Executor was actually waiting to greet Han and crew), and B: flatten the surface of the Death Star (or at least the relevant areas) so that any point defense weapons that were there would get destroyed so their fighters would have free reign in getting to the unprotected reactor.
Comic Books
The basis of the original
comic in the 1980s is a big fat
Idiot Plot
: A college friend of one of the original
suggests it would be a good idea to go undercover as mutant hunters for hire (complete with advertising blitz) to find, capture, and "cure" dangerous mutants with menacing (read: newly manifesting and thus out of control) powers. Jean Grey had an excuse being recently fished out of the drink and all (and having her telepathy conveniently on the fritz), but why did all her old teammates think this would be a remotely healthy idea with the building Mutant Menace thing going on in the M.U.?
Because without access to a Cerebro device (and no ability to use it even if they
one, because it requires a functioning telepath to operate), they had no way to locate newly manifesting mutants on their own. The nationwide advertising blitz, on the other hand, guaranteed that people would immediately pick up the phone and
any newly manifesting mutants to X-Factor... in the mistaken belief that X-Factor was a bunch of mutant hunters abducting those 'evil muties' to their privately funded mutant prison. Instead of a group of mutants operating a secret shelter and school for young mutants under the cover of a bunch of mutant hunters and their privately funded mutant prison. And in a world with genuine mutant hunters whisking newly manifested mutants off to unmarked graves, you'd really rather that your phony mutant hunters find them first, no?
The publicity bit, I can see (and indeed under other circumstances would applaud). Problem is that, if memory serves, they were quite literally the
quasi-commercial Mutant-Busting squad and helped whip up a fair bit of paranoia (which was said College Buddy's plan all along).
The first
mutant-hunting squad. Government-sanctioned and private-hate-group mutant hunters were around in plenty before X-Factor. Not to mention do-it-yourself lynch mobs. And to be fair, its not like commercial mutant hunters proliferated widely
, either.
Uknown Troper
: Moving
example to
Stupidity Is the Only Option
Ninjacrat: I'm yoinking this whole damn thing:''
Death Note
Idiot Plot
Light Yagami
at points after
L dies
. Here's a glaring example: if he had taught
Teru Mikami, a known Kira loyalist,
watch trick that Light himself uses for emergencies
, then
Teru Mikami wouldn't go to the bank a second time in a single day and Near wouldn't have been able to take effective advantage of Kiyomi Takada's kidnapping and death and he would have been far less able to expose Light and Mikami fast enough
It's arguably worse than that.
Light should've simply assumed that Near could've conceivably found out about the notebook in the bank, and told his partner to keep a few pages on his person. He would've then killed Near and everyone else without breaking a sweat. Not to mention the gloating well before his victory was assured. Oh, let's admit it: Light was defeated because he mastered the
Idiot Ball
Mikami was contacted through Takada before. Although Light did have sufficient chance earlier on to make sure Mikami kept a few pages on his person in case something went awry. And Light should have seen to this, considering he should have realized that can't even handle surprises very effectively—Lind L. Taylor's death proves that.
Idiot Ball
indeed. Of course,
Death Note
doesn't exactly concentrate on comedy.
Oh, by the way,
this troper
heard that
Death Note
was supposed to end with
L's death
, but
that would mean Kira winning, something Shounen Jump can't have
. That would explain the rush job of
the Near/Mello chapters
. Want
this troper
's input? Try to contact him.''
because "the villain forgot to slightly modify one phase of a complex gambit in order to counter a hypothetical potential surveillance issue —
" is... no.
: Regarding the
Star Trek: Voyager
example (well, it and
, but I've never seen that one): What would be an example of "a problem that had no logical reason to exist in the first place, except that the script demanded it"? I'll grant some things that are seriously unlikely to come up in real life - off the top of my head, see "Tuvix", exploring the moral implications of re-splitting an entity formed by the merging of two people - but I'm having trouble thinking of something that had no logical reason, in-show, to happen. Help?
: Removing it. And were the other
Star Trek
s really immune to this? Or, rather, did
really use such plots (if only on the part of the antagonists) that much more than the others? I'm tempted to think that those two are being listed because they're the least popular incarnations of the series. (That's acknowledging the obvious logic that that might be the genuine reason why they're less popular to begin with - it just feels like a knee-jerk reaction.)
Danel: I'm really not sure that the
Harry Potter
example counts - when other than in Book 5 do the adults withhold vital information from Harry? Not only that, but even in book five withholding the details of the prophecy only led to Harry angsting a bit - and Dumbledore wasn't
trying to protect Harry from the truth, but was also unsure whether or not Voldemort could simply pluck the information from Harry's mind.
The second example from Book Four definitely counts, though - there are ways to
Fan Wank
it, and it's not something you tend to notice on first reading, but it's a fair point.
:Ninjacrat, the fact that you changed my entry means you probably didn't watch the movie. Trust me,
would have a field day with this one.
Joie De Combat
: Removed the
Lost Odyssey
example; cutting the train wasn't to save the kids from a train crash, it was to get them out of the line of fire of the enormous magical attack being aimed at Kaim and Sarah.
: Cutting
The X-Files
example, since there's a rather obvious and perfectly non-idiot explanation (that Ninjacrat keeps cutting out) for the fact that two very urban people who probably don't have the necessary skills or equipment to do so don't start a campfire when stranded in the woods.
ninjacrat: Tacking justifications onto a example? Is bad. Don't do it again.
: You'll be VERY busy cutting all of that from all over the Wiki, unless you're just targeting me.
ninjacrat: I
have been
very busy cutting it from the wiki, and
of course
I'm not targetting you, you silly bugger. I don't have the foggiest idea who you are.
The take-home lesson here is that
Justifying Edits
are bad. As it says in great big bold letters.
Charred Knight
: Barring some kind of addition, Code Geass is over, and I deleted the things that made sense, and added the one thing that made no sense.
Why the hell wouldn't you tell the truth?
Anonymous Mc Cartneyfan
: Cut this and put it here. One thing Idiot Plots require is true idiocy. This is no more than a
Violation of Common Sense
The original
Iron Eagle
. Think about this for a minute. A teenage kid living in the middle of the Cold War is able to hijack an F-16 in order to rescue his father imprisoned in an undisclosed Middle Eastern country. This essentially one-man campaign involves flying from his small town in the US to overseas, where he proceeds to issue ransom commands to the enemy air control tower before bombing a civilian oil refinery. After the extraction goes off without a hitch, the Middle Eastern jets immediately back off of any attempts at a counterattack upon realizing a handful of more F-16s are on the way. Back home, the press is easily convinced that the rescue was an official mission performed by a whole squadron, and the kid is given a slap on the wrists and acceptance into the US Air Force Academy. Is anyone in this movie
What else could they do? They can't arrest him: a civilian trial would make the entire story a matter of public record, which would lead to a hideous diplomatic incident
make public the fact that Air Force security entirely sucks. They can't just let him go: he might decide to make a zillion dollars selling the movie rights to his story. Solution: Enlist his stupid ass, so that he can be
to keep his mouth shut, and discreetly court-martialled if he doesn't. Add in that he's obviously the most freak natural talent pilot in existence, given that just
an F-16 is impossible for anyone who hasn't been to flight school, let alone
defeating experienced enemy pilots in air-to-air combat
, and, really, the only insane thing would be to
put his ass back in a cockpit working for you.
Whatever: Cutting the first 28 Weeks Later example, shown below, based on three things. 1. The Infected weren't "under control," they were
, and had been for months. Too dumb to consider eating anything other than uninfected humans, they'd starved to death ages ago. Alice was only around because she was infected but immune to the Rage of Blinding Stupidity. 2. It wasn't obvious Alice was infected. Her only symptom was bloodshot eyes. Once the doctor giving her a medical exam noticed she had bite-shaped scars, she did a blood test to confirm it and told her commanding officer straight away, who responded by immedietly heading down to kill Alice. Nobody else knew, including the husband. 3. Why the hell would they waste guards on the rooms of random survivors they've found? Especially since they're already scattered throughout the building?
Anonymous Mc Cartneyfan
: Cut these and put them here. The first is a
Villain Ball
, the second has a killer justifying edit, and the third is two
Idiot Balls
Guardian Force
is an idiot plot for the duration of its run. The villain, Hiltz, wants to revive the "true" Deathsaurer and destroy the world. To do this, he makes a copy of the Deathsaurer's core and installs it into another Zoid, the Death Stinger. He then uses the Death Stinger to go on a cross-country rampage which
not only alerts the world to his plot
, but sees the protagonists develop the weapons and skills that are used to defeat him in the final episode
as a response
. There was nothing stopping him from simply revivng the Deathsaurer in about the middle of the series... save for the desire to sell more toys.
Lelouch and Suzaku's relationship in
Code Geass
is wrecked because Lelouch won't tell Suzaku that what he did to Euphemia was an accident.
It actually wouldn't be a good idea to tell someone who already has crappy opinion of you that their loved one had to die because you were screwing around.
Considering how intelligent Lelouch, Schneizel, and Xingke are, you would think that someone would figure out that it would be best for all three to get together and have a discussion about how best to make peace. Instead, Schneizel builds a doom fortress that kills millions, Lelouch brainwashes hundreds of Britannian soldiers, and neither even try to have a discussion. Are they children or grown men?
Charred Knight
: I stand by the two Code Geass ones, considering the portrayal of Suzaku and Lelouch after Lelouch tells him the truth I think everything could have been prevented by Lelouch and Suzaku just talking it out during the final episode of season 1. The whole confrontation becomes forced when their interactions in the short stories in Mutuality are so close. Hell just look at the picture Clamp drew of Emperor Lelouch, Suzaku is kissing Lelouch's sword in a clear freudian manner.
Look at this
You don't think these two guys could have made up quickly?
Also we are supposed to think that Lelouch and Schneizel are well Intentioned extremist, so the whole war comes off as two children arguing over whose plan is better instead off three "geniuses" getting together and making a plan that works. The final two episodes only happen since Lelouch and Schneizel act like idiotic children instead of adults.
Anonymous Mc Cartneyfan
: Okay, I accept your argument for Lelouch being an idiot at the end of season 1. And I never doubted that Lelouch and Schneizel are idiots in that second example. But an
Idiot Plot
the main characters to be idiots.
Code Geass
contains a lot of idiocy, but I'm reluctant to believe the idiocy's that universal. (You don't think Suzaku's an idiot, do you?)
Charred Knight
: The problem is that the plot can only happen if no one points out that the entire casts wants the same thing at that point. At no point does anyone point blankly ask for Schneizel, and Lelouch to stop
Raping The Dog
and work together for their common goal. The whole thing comes off as Schneizel, Nunnaly, and Lelouch acting like babies trying to achieve the same goal all causing the destruction of Pendragon.
As for Suzaku I don't know what else you would call someone who's goal is to show the evil racist empire that Japanese can be useful. The only person in the entire Britannian government who is sympathetic and good is Euphemia. Those actions alone show him to be a complete moron.
Anonymous Mc Cartneyfan
: Cut this and put it here. The justification kills this entry (though it may make room for a
Voodoo Shark
The war between Haven and Manticore in David Weber's
Honor Harrington
series is rapidly approaching this: formerly a simple good-versus-evil conflict, now both sides are led by good people who, in some cases, have worked actually together and like each other. Continuation of the conflict (which is now being goaded by an outside force both sides hate) would require an incredible amount of stupidity on both sides...fortunately Victor Cachat is on the case.
As much as this troper
having to be fair to David Weber here, while this entire plot arc is full of raving stupidity to the nth degree, its not actually an
Idiot Plot
because the characters are making decisions that would be reasonable if the situation was actually like they thought it was. The idiocy is that in the aforementioned malevolent third party is actually able to lay such an extreme degree of disinformation on both Manticore and Haven, and keep the deception up for this long. Stupid frackin magic gorram
Hand Wave
nanite mind-control [descends into incoherent swearing]
Knights of the Old Republic
, as described here, is not an idiot plot. It sounds the writer of the entry is describing
Character Derailment
, since the details don't involve the characters being idiots - which is what an idiot plot
Ana: Cut this and put it here. At best
Villain Ball
at worst largely justified as mentioned in the
Justified Edit
Babylon 5
has its share. The season finale "Z'Ha'Dum" is a fine example. Sheridan takes the
White Star
to the Shadows' homeworld in the company of his wife Anna
knowing that she's now a Shadow agent
. After he leaves Babylon 5 a Shadow fleet appears and surrounds it. The station can't get a message to their ally Draal on Epsilon 3 because the Shadows are jamming their transmissions. So how come Draal, with his big alien supercomputer, can't detect the presence of the Shadow fleet? How come B5 didn't just send a continuous signal to Epsilon 3 so that if it got jammed Draal would know the station was in trouble? Meanwhile Sheridan on Z'Ha'Dum manages to shot a couple of Shadows with a concealed gun that neither Anna nor the Shadows or their other cronies managed to detect. Then he uses a miniature remote control that they also failed to detect to summon the
White Star
, which the Shadows never thought to blow out of orbit as a preventative measure. And if a small fleet of Shadow fighters can jam all the signals from a huge space station, how come the Shadows' homeworld can't jam the signal from one measly little remote? And the White Star just happens to be carrying two fully-armed nuclear warheads, which Sheridan somehow stole without either his own side or the Shadows detecting. And so the Shadow city goes boom... To Be Continued.
Stracyinski actually dealt with at least SOME of these in the Babylon 5 Lurker's Guide site.
The part where Sheridan managed to nuke the Shadow homeworld had to be handled in one of the Technomage books.
: Cut this and put it here for now. The funny thing is, whoever wrote it actually has made some good points (even though my retort to most of them is still
"It's a movie. Make. Allowances."
. Plus Nero was a miner driven by grief and rage, so wasn't exactly in the "Lets sit down and think this out" mindset, but I digress)...but it's buried under so much venom it just comes across as a long whining rant. So since there are good points there, should it be reworded?
The new
Star Trek
movie has this in spades. It's probably better just to list them, rather than have a huge paragraph.
Nero who when he goes back in time
through a black hole
which was going to be used to stop a supernova from
destroying the galaxy
(yes, Spock said "galaxy" not "solar system"
Nero decides the best thing for him to do in his mining ship is to destroy the first ship he sees, wait around for years until Spock comes out of the black hole, then blow up the Vulcan homeworld because Spock couldn't save his homeworld from a sun going supernova, which apparently no one bothered to evacuate from. So he blows up the Vulcan homeworld, rather than say returning to his home planet and making the Romulans invincible.
When Nero sees the escaped ship carrying the red matter (a huge sphere of it, where even a single drop can destroy a planet), and his response is "fire everything at it!", which would certainly kill them both, and maybe destroy the galaxy in the process.
Spock teleports Kirk to a frozen planet 20 kilometers from an outpost, populated by large killer beasts. If he died, that would be manslaughter. And even if Kirk servived, that's reckless endangerment of a
Star Fleet
All Kirk needs to do is make Spock show emotion to make him relieve himself of command, though a human captain could show emotion just so long as it doesn't interfere with their command. Kirk does, and Spock decided to relieve himself from the bridge.
They say that they have no captain, so Kirk sits down in the captain's chair and starts giving orders. Kirk at this point hasn't graduated, is suspended from the Academy, and is a stowaway, not even supposed to be on the ship. And he got into a fistfight with the previous captain. But not a single crewmember complains.
Charred Knight
: I cut this just because while they do explain why his an idiot it doesn't change the fact that Lelouch acted dumber than his ever acted before. In a previous episode Lelouch was willing to prostrate himself before Suzaku, he begged Suzaku to save Nunnaly, but a few episode's later Lelouch is all of a sudden the Lelouch from the first season, completely egotistical, completely arrogant, not willing to listen to anyone and willing to risk everything on a plan that makes no sense just because it was his way and no once could accomplish anything except him. The only way the plot makes any sense is if you ignore the scene where Lelouch begs Suzaku to save Nunnaly. It's basically only makes sense if your remove Lelouch's character development, and just insert season 1 Lelouch into the end of the series. It also doesn't excuse the actions of Suzaku and C.C who allowed Lelouch to go through such a self destructive action. It's basically the equivalent of having the bartender refuse an acholic anymore drinks so the Alcholic's friends order some and then give it the acholic along with the key's to his car.
That wasn't an idiot plot so much as character consistency. Lelouch is shown over the course of the series to be incredibly proud such as not taking an obvious victory over Schneizel because it was handed to him, renouncing his nobility just because he couldn't manipulate his father, and annihilating the Geass Directory just so he could be the only Geass user (and partially
because of Shirley's death
) but mostly because of the excessive pride. Because of this it didn't matter that other people had plans just like his, it had to be HIS plan.
Another interpretation is that Lelouch had sold so much of his soul to achieve his vision of peace that he could not and would not allow someone else to take over it at the final stage. If you've actually given up that much of who you are to achieve a single goal, it would be terrible to learn that someone else had accomplished the exact same thing before you could.
: I did you one better—that whole section was a natter magnet, and it's not an
Idiot Plot
for "wants to achieve world peace by nuking everyone" versus "wants to achieve world peace by Zero Requiem" to come into conflict. And this is a conversation that should be taking place here, in the discussion section, or on the forums.
The last few episodes of
Code Geass
, the UFN wants peace, Lelouch wants peace, Schneizel wants peace. So how is this handled? By fighting over which way to make peace is the best! You could argue that they where fighting over how to make the peace last, but
Word of God
states that the peace is temporary anyway. So thousands of people died in a war for something that could have been avoided by just talking about it. By the end the whole thing is revealed that Lelouch Schneizel, and Nunnaly had the exact same plan but with themselves as the evil overlord.
That wasn't an
Idiot Plot
so much as character consistency. Lelouch is one of the proudest people ever, just look back over everything he's done (He refuses an easy victory over Schneizel because it was handed to him, he renounces his nobility because he couldn't make his father avenge his mother's death, and he wiped out the Geass Directory so he would be the only one with the power and partially because of Shirley, but mostly because he wanted to be the only one with the Power of the King.) Given that he is such a proud character he would never let someone else enact HIS plan for peace. Plus he wanted to create a peaceful world for Nunally and she couldn't enjoy the peaceful world if she was the martyr for peace.
Lelouch was given
Character Development
where he loses a lot of his pride, and in one scene begs for Suzaku to save Nunnaly. Even if Lelouch had gained some back it shouldn't be enough that he would condemn thousands to die, and risk peace, just to prove that he could bring peace to the world his way. Even then why didn't Suzaku and C.C even try to make Lelouch see reason. Suzaku did some half ass attempts where he just says "is this really necessary" but C.C never even tries.
In C.C's case it's consistent with the character though, she apparently just doesn't care.
Given that Schneizel and Nunnally's idea of peace involves mass genocide via orbital bombardment and Schneizel has no plans of ever giving UP that power, Lelouch is fairly justified in executing his own plan while stopping Schneizel from burning the capital cities of the world with his orbiting nuke fortress. Perhaps a larger
Idiot Plot
is how the Black Knights split from Zero partially because they believed he allowed Fleija to go off by ignoring Schneizel's warning, and quit fighting rather than risk another one being fired, but freely and willingly team up with Schneizel, who is now openly operating a nigh-invincible fortress equipped with enough nukes to practically destroy the
entire goddamn planet
and fires them at will into cluttered battlefields, most likely killing hundreds of their own troops with each shot. Apparently Ohgi decided he was more afraid of Lelouch's Geass than a man with the power to kill civilization with fire by pushing a button.
If only it were that simple. Unfortunately, since Lelouch's plan is not about stoping Schneizel at all, and Schneizel is simply an obstacle to overcome on the WAY to achieving Lelouch's plan, and since the Black Knights dont know what Schneizel is planning at all and are in need of as much help as they can get, they are perfectly reasonable to join forces with Schneizel against Lelouch. After all, Lelouch had just attacked them, kidnapped their leaders, and conquered their homeland, and NONE of that had anything to do with Schneizel what so ever. If Lelouch had simply gone after Schneizel WITHOUT attacking the UFN first, then the Black Knights would have been Idiots for joining forces with him. but since Lelouch decided to attack the Black Knights FIRST, the
Idiot Ball
is all his. Apparently Lelouch decided that fighting Schneizel AND the Black Knights at the same time was easier then just fighting Schneizel.
This still doesn't change the fact that the BK decided to trust a prince of the enemy nation. Sure, Schneizel is a
smooth talker
, and Lelouch had done his fair number of mistakes, but...
Are we referring to repeated acts of
mass murder
as "mistakes" now ?. and During the last battle, Lelouch had just attacked the UFN, took their leaders hostage, and conquered japan. the alliance with Schneizel was an
Enemy Mine
situation. whether or not they trusted Schneizel (who up to that point has never been shown as anything but
Affably Evil
) isnt as importent as stopping an
Evil Overlord
who had made his (apparent) intentions very clear.Saying that they trusted an enemy prince ignores that they allied with him to take down the
enemy emperor
Schneizel flat out stated that he didn't care about the power, he just wanted peace. The final battle could have been easily averted by just sending diplomats and hammering a peace plan. The people who wanted death and destruction where all killed episodes before the end of the series. By the time Lelouch
brainwashed the Britannia Royal family
all of the major obstacles could be handled with diplomats but instead Lelouch, Schneizel, and Nunnaly came up with idiotic plans that involved millions dying.
Some New Guy: The
Valkyria Chronicles
entry seems to be more about Complaining About Plot Developments You Don't Like then any actual idiocy. Remove?
Welkin is supposed to be a genius, but when Alicia comes to him about being upset and overwhelmed by her powers, he just brushes her off; it might be more of an Idiot Ball moment than an entire plot, though, that scene is just a crux point for that arc. Thoughts?
Senevri: The Manga
is so full of stupid things I'm not sure how to classify them all. I think the latest one counts as an idiot plot: A girl commits suicide because she finds out she _might_ have contracted Creutzfeldt-Jacob Disease, after reading a book written about her, and her sister decides to murder the author of the book. But, as said I have trouble classifying all the stupidity contained within.
Hork Hork Hork
: When I first saw the scene in Pan's Labyrinth where Ophelia eats the forbidden food, my initial reaction was that it was a classic Idiot Ball moment (not quite a full-blown Idiot Plot). Thinking back on it, however, I think the implication was that the food was enchanted and that she was drawn to it by some kind of irresitable magic. Otherwise, the scene simply makes no sense.
School Days
really an idiot plot? I can see that the protagonist has an
Idiot Ball
firmly lodged in his brain with no plans to remove it, but most other characters seem to act fairly intelligently and don't do idiotic things (depending on what you believe their goals are).


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I should check with Jon before posting it to the web--I could upload it to my old university account until the end of December. So all is not lost
However, it's not a perfect mirror: You cannot search or easily display old pages, although I think I have all the old posts. One way to access the old forums is to put the old forum's IP address in your computer's hosts file:
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I have updated my Hosts file, how do I access the old forum after doing that?
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Windows Me/9x may require you to disconnect or even reboot before the change takes effect
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I come back of holidays. (one week) and... surprise ! 'm waiting for an answer but
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Today was a great first full day at IMPACT: DC! Participants started the day with an inspiring speech from a person who was formerly homeless who talked about his struggles, success, and motivation. He started off with a little background before asking participants to outline his story through our own questions. We asked about his early life, from family to college, and ultimately how he became homeless and how he was able to overcome that. We learned he was so similar to us because he grew up in a supporting family and ended up going to college. He inspired us to look at homelessness from a different angle and consider the stories behind it.
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Arms of Silliman College
University | Yale University |
Location | 505 College Street |
Coordinates | 41°18′40″N 72°55′32″W / 41.31105°N 72.92544°WCoordinates: 41°18′40″N 72°55′32″W / 41.31105°N 72.92544°W |
Nickname | Sillimanders |
Motto | Nutrisco et extinguo |
Motto in English | I nourish and I extinguish |
Established | 1940 |
Named for | Benjamin Silliman |
Colors | Red, white, green, gold |
Sister college | Dudley House, Pforzheimer House |
Master | Judith Krauss |
Dean | Jessie Hill |
Undergraduates | 456 (2013-2014) |
Mascot | Salamander |
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Silliman College is a residential college at Yale University in New Haven, Connecticut, named for scientist and Yale professor Benjamin Silliman. It opened in September 1940 as the last of the original ten residential colleges, and contains buildings constructed as early as 1901. It is Yale's largest residential college by its footprint, occupying most of a city block.
The older, Indiana limestone part of the college consists of the Vanderbilt-Sheffield dormitories and Byers Hall, both originally part of the Sheffield Scientific School. The Van-Sheff portion of Silliman was built between 1903 and 1906 by architect Charles C. Haight in the Collegiate Gothic style. Byers Hall was built in 1903 and was designed by Hiss and Weekes architects in the modified French Renaissance Style.
The newer, Georgian brick portion of the college, which includes most of the core facilities and the Master's house, was completed in 1940 when the college was opened. Architect Eggers & Higgins designed this part of the college.
Due to Silliman's size, the college is able to house its freshmen in the college instead of on Yale's Old Campus, allowing first year students to immediately become immersed in the vibrant student life in Silliman.
The College has links to Harvard's Pforzheimer House and Dudley House, as well as Trinity College, Cambridge and Brasenose College, Oxford. Its rival college at Yale is Timothy Dwight College, located directly across Temple Street.
Silliman College Shield and Mascot[edit]
Silliman College's shield has a white background, three curving red lines emerging from near the bottom of the shield (representing salamander tails), and a green crossing bar containing three acorns. In heraldic terms, the shield is described as "Arms: Argent, three piles wavy gules, on a fess vert three acorns or." The colors represent the four ancient elements: red for fire, white for air and water, and green for earth. The acorns are an element taken from the family arms of Frederick Vanderbilt, 1876, who funded the college's construction.
The college's mascot is the salamander. Students in the college refer to themselves as Sillimanders. Silliman also owns a salamander costume suit known as "Sally" made by Michael MacKenzie SM '03 that is worn to intramurals and Yale-wide events.
The college courtyard, which covers almost an entire city block, is the largest enclosed courtyard at Yale and is one of the glories of the old college. Students can be seen playing various sports or lounging in the sun. Because of the size of the courtyard, sports such as stickball, wiffle ball, football, and frisbee are often enjoyed.
Special facilities within Silliman include Yale's only undergraduate art gallery, called Maya's Room (named for Maya Tanaka Hanway, '83), a big-screen movie theater (Silliflicks), a dance studio, a half-court basketball facility called the Sillidome, computing facilities, a student kitchen, multiple music practice rooms, and a state-of-the-art[1] sound recording studio. The college's library, located in the third floor of Byers Hall, is commonly referred to as the Sillibrary. The Buttery, a student-run eatery in the basement that serves greasy goodness on weekday nights, is designed in the style of the 50's and its surrounding area includes games such as ping pong, air hockey, and pool.
In August 2007, after three years of on-and-off renovations, students moved back into Silliman College. Students now enjoy a reconfigured dining hall and servery, a stadium-seating movie theater, and a large student activities space that includes a new art gallery, dance studio, gym, basketball court, weight room, buttery, game room, and television entertainment space. The Silliman College courtyard was also restored to its former glory, with new patio spaces, benches, and grass. The renovation cost some $100 million, by far the most spent on any residential college renovation at Yale.[2]
Because of the size of Silliman College, the renovation work on the college was completed in several phases instead of the 15-month renovation completed on other colleges:
- In the summer of 2004, the roof and windows were replaced on the brick section of the college. Extra dormers were also added to the roofs so that student rooms could later be installed in the former attic spaces.
- In the summer of 2005, the Silliman Tower underwent a complete interior renovation.
- The entire college was shut down during the 2006-2007 school year for the rest of the renovation. All students from the college moved into either Swing Space (a new dormitory built especially to house students during college renovations), the Elm Street Annex or into independent off-campus housing until the renovations were completed.
Activities and traditions[edit]
Intramural sports[edit]
Silliman College has won the Tyng Cup (awarded for the best intramural record of Yale's 12 residential colleges) eight times, in 1941, 1943, 1968, 1969, 1972, 2006, 2007, and 2008.
Other activities and traditions[edit]
Silliman hosted a Yale-wide 80s theme party called the Safety Dance, the largest dance at Yale, until 2012, when the dance was cancelled. For its own students, Silliman has an annual Freshman Olympics where students from its various entryways compete in teams for the "Clean Sweep" broom and Richfest (named in honor of Rich Marshall, a member of the Silliman class of 1996), an outdoor day of fun complete with a dunk tank, cotton candy, and a moon bounce, thrown as classes end in the spring. A short-lived winter edition of Richfest, called Rachfest (after Rachel Wasser '04), featured an inflatable jumping castle in the snow.
During Halloween week, Silliman hosts Yale's largest haunted house in the Silliman basement featuring student actors. This event, started by Mo Nasr '04 and which is free to the student body, has drawn hundreds of students each year, with lines stretching well into the Silliman courtyard. Silliman also hosts several other Halloween week events including a "Halloweenie Roast," pumpkin carving competitions, and a costume contest hosted by the Master.
Silliman also celebrates the Kentucky Derby with an annual Derby Party that features traditional dishes such as burgoo, derby pie, and bourbon candy.
Throughout the year, the Silliman Activities Committee hosts many other events including very popular Karaoke Nights at Naples Pizza, the Silliman Screw, and trips to NYC, the movies, and to ski resorts.
Each winter, on the night of the first snowfall, Silliman and its rival college, Timothy Dwight, fight each other in a massive snowball fight that takes place in the courtyards of the two colleges.
The Silliringers, a group of students using hand bells donated by a former master, perform each year at the college's Christmas Party. The college has its own newspaper, College and Wall, named for two streets that border it.
In 2007, Silliman College was renovated. A room formerly in the Master's House, N21, became the room of five juniors. With a large, two level common room, two doubles, and a single, N21 became known as the Hotel Lobby for its (largely imagined) debauchery at night and rigorous debate during the day.
Silliman fame[edit]
Silliman gained fame when the popular movie Mona Lisa Smile featuring Julia Roberts, Julia Stiles and Kirsten Dunst, was partly filmed in the Silliman College courtyard and common room. The Temple Street facade of Silliman was used to represent Harvard University, and the Wall Street Gate and the common room were used to represent Wellesley College.
Many Silliman students were used as extras in the film and those who were not gathered in the courtyard to watch the filming.
When Indiana Jones 4 was filming in New Haven (summer 2007), Dean Hugh Flick and several other Silliman students were cast as extras. A car/motorcycle scene was also filmed along the College Street side of the college, even while it was still under renovations.
Notable alumni[edit]
- George Roy Hill, 1943, movie director
- Renée Richards, 1954, transgendered tennis player
- James Jeffords, 1956, Independent U.S. senator from Vermont
- Wendell Mottley, 1964, Olympic silver medalist, minister of finance of Trinidad and Tobago
- Strobe Talbott, 1968, Brookings Institution president, former Time correspondent
- Daniel Yergin, 1968, Pulitzer Prize-winning author and energy consultant
- Stone Phillips, 1977, newscaster
- Evan Wolfson, 1978, activist
- Anthony A. Williams, 1979, the mayor of the District of Columbia from 1999 to 2007
- David Hyde Pierce, 1981, actor, best known for playing the role of Niles Crane on "Fraiser"
- Neal Wolin, 1983, Deputy Secretary U.S. Treasury
- Julie Otsuka, 1984, author of "When the Emperor was Divine" and "The Buddha in the Attic"
- Elizabeth Wein, 1986, author of Code Name Verity and Rose Under Fire
- Elizabeth Kostova, 1988, author
- Nerissa Nields, 1989, of the band The Nields
- Ben Greenman, 1990, author
- Joshua Foer, 2004, author of "Moonwalking with Einstein"
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Andy Flower will coach the second-string England Lions during their triangular one-day series against New Zealand A and Sri Lanka A.
Flower, who stood down as England coach after last winter's 5-0 Ashes defeat and is now the England and Wales Cricket Board's technical director of elite coaching, is in charge of a 13-man squad captained by Nottinghamshire's James Taylor.
Nottinghamshire's Harry Gurney said Flower's involvement was a huge positive for a squad of players hoping to progress to the full international set-up.
"I think it's great for everyone involved in the Lions squad to work with a guy who's been at the pinnacle of the game with England in all forms of cricket," Gurney told Sky Sports News.
"He's going to take a great deal of expertise into that position so there will be a lot for the relatively young guys in the squad to learn."
Taylor is among seven full internationals in the party, while Middlesex left-arm spinner Ravi Patel is handed his first chance for the Lions.
"With the ODI series against India rapidly approaching and next winter's tour to Sri Lanka and World Cup also firmly in our sights, this is the perfect opportunity for these players to impress the selectors in the 50-over format of the game," said England's national selector James Whitaker.
"We are delighted to welcome Ravi Patel from Middlesex into a Lions squad for the first time and look forward to what promises to be a closely contested series against two highly competitive touring sides."
The three sides play each other twice during the period August 5-12.
Lions squad: J Taylor (Notts, capt), J Bairstow (Yorks, wkt), R Bopara (Essex), S Finn (Middx), S Parry (Lancs), H Gurney (Notts), A Hales (Notts), C Overton (Somerset), J Roy (Surrey), R Patel (Middx), T Smith (Lancs), J Vince (Hants), D Willey (Northants)


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Sanford M. (Sandy) Litvack, Michael Eisner's No. 2 at Walt Disney (DIS - Get Report), will resign his vice chairman's post "to pursue other opportunities," the company said Thursday.
"I regret Sandy's decision, but I accept it and respect his desire to pursue other ventures, said Disney Chairman and Chief Executive Eisner. Litvack is not leaving Disney entirely; he will take on what the company calls a "nonexclusive part-time exeucitve role" in which he will focus on legal and governmental affairs, among other things.
While Litvack has long been a trusted Eisner confidant -- he joined the company in 1991 as general counsel and was promoted to the vice chairman position last year -- he hasn't been regarded as Eisner's heir apparent. Robert Iger, the company's president and chief operating officer, is currently regarded as the 58-year-old Eisner's likely successor.
Litvack perhaps most notably spearheaded Disney's legal battle with former executive Jeffrey Katzenberg over compensation Katzenberg thought was owed him. That suit, which was the object of rapt attention in Hollywood, was eventually settled. Litvack also is credited for his role in helping Eisner and Disney get through what Eisner described as "the very difficult period following the death of our late president and COO, Frank Wells, in 1994." Wells was killed in a helicopter crash.
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West Brom midfielder James Morrison is confident he will have overcome a groin injury in time to play in the crunch Premier League game against Fulham later this month.
The problem forced Morrison to pull out of the Scotland squad's training get-together this week, but he is pleased with the way his recovery is going.
He said: "I had to have an injection in my groin ten minutes before kick-off to be able to play against Newcastle on Saturday. I've never had to have one before in order to play a game.
"To be honest, I hope I never have to have one again because it really hurt. I should be okay for the Fulham game though without an injection.
"At the moment I'm just working in the gym because I can't train on the surface at the indoor pitch, where the rest of the players are training.
"We can't keep letting mistakes happen. But we'll stick together and keep working hard. We've just got to move on now.
"I reckon we may need six more wins to stay up so we'll need to win one or two away. It's possible looking at our remaining fixtures.
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