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March 29th, 2012 #121
Hide this ad by registering as a memberMarch 29th, 2012 #122Painting can only be learned with paint. Digital image making isn't painting. In a place called conceptart.org I expect that the majority of people here are interested in a "character" design more than in the way it's painted, the look and characteristics of the depicted things and how they fit within their game world more than the media in which they are depicted. "Digital painting" isn't easier than actual painting because it doesn't exist, and design doesn't change regardless of whether you do it in real media or on a computer. Making a digital image simulate an actual painting is actually harder than making the painting for real because all the accidents that happen in reality don't happen automatically on a computer, they have to be designed. The reality is that the best painters don't make the best designers, and annoyance comes from designers being told that they have to be painters first.
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March 29th, 2012 #123First part of that is true (imo). Second part though I agree with if you are trying to "simulate" natural media...at the same time I stumble across all kinds of interesting "accidents" when working digitally that I could not have planned, designed or predicted. Oddly enough, in my working approach I find digital more creative by far than traditional. With traditional media I have a pretty good idea where I'm heading and what I need to do to get there...with digital it meanders and leads me into all kinds of undiscovered country. But that's just me, and we already know I'm weird.
Not sure I follow the second part of that? Could you elaborate?
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March 29th, 2012 #124Does it matter if I use rotate within the program? Alt drag works fine on Open Canvas, E drag also works great in Painter, Home and iirc End do just fine in Easy Paint tool Sai.
Then again if it has to be the object that moves, the Motion computing LE1700 also does this physically, not just a cintiq. (Tablet PC)
March 30th, 2012 #125I should have written "concept artist" instead of "designer". Then just look at the statements:
All concept artists are painters.
All painters are concept artists.
Each artist-type has a primary set of skills that they need to learn. It makes more sense to spend the most time on the most relevant information. For example dpaint brought up perspective, I think it's better to learn perspective with sketchup, the effect is like tetris where the game continues to play in your mind even after you put it down, you wind up doing way more geometrical manipulations than you could on paper.
Another thing I felt like bringing up is the overratedness of the materiality of paint. Paint is basically dirt. If you see a wet paint sign you don't run over to the wall in the hopes of smearing your shirt to raise it's value. The value in paint doesn't come automatically in it's physical existence but in the way it's used. From the point of view of a designer the most important thing about making an image is that it should look interesting. No one watches a blank screen, it takes a skilled designer to get people to look at what's showing on it.
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March 30th, 2012 #126Sure - totally agree there, with the slight exception that we are talking about the material nature of paint...at least as opposed to the virtual nature of pixels.
On the designer point...that was a little why I was confused...I don't think anyone is saying a designer or concept person needs to be a painter...or vice-versa. Where I think those of us engaged in both both get annoyed, and try to make some distinction, is when the designer also wants to be considered a painter...not the other way around.
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March 30th, 2012 #127
March 30th, 2012 #128You're saying a lot of things:
"Go outside and paint somethig from life; that is what your ability as a painter is, with out a computer and undue and all the littlre shortcuts. Using a computer is easier and takes less skill. I should know I do both and have been using computers to draw with since the late 80's. I also paint from life traditionally. Its not respected because it hasn't earned the respect traditional painting has and ther is no physical original something digital will have a hard time overcoming to be taken seriously."
Painting is inferior to sculpture because in sculpture you actually build something up in space whereas in painting you are only creating the illusion of it. Sculpture is more truthful than painting, painting is a kind of deception... The argument of the physicality of paint was probably invented in response to Plato's assertions. For a while painting was less respected than sculpture.
Digital image making will never be painting, as painting will never be sculpture. The whole conflict that's happening here is really about painting en plein air "Go outside and paint somethig from life"., and there are unspoken feelings about the importance of tradition, what it means to be an artist, and however many other things.
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March 30th, 2012 #129I don't paint en plein air so that is not my argument. My argument is quite simple: one will never be the other and really doesn't need to. Some were making the argument of value which I agree with to a point.
But making that statement about the materiality of paint with your experience actually stuns me. Materiality only begins with material. The end product introduces to levels of sensory perception that a digital print can't. I am a surface junkie. And you well know that something can be painted with no discernible brushstrokes and still have a quality of surface that makes you want to bite or lick it. Have never gotten that with print on image on the screen. Am I misunderstanding you?
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March 30th, 2012 #130Hmmmm...no, you're misreading or attributing many things to me here I'm not saying at all. And I don't buy that painting is inferior to sculpture...again, different things. It is because (representational) painting is an illusion that it requires a different approach than sculpture. The advantage of sculpture is the very fact that it exists in three dimensions...you don't have to understand illusion to make it work (and yes I know classical, large scale sculpture often takes into account viewer's perspective and so builds in distortion so it looks correct).
You also don't have to go outside to paint from life.
I've also mentioned many times that my experience with digital, even in the fine art gallery realm, has been positive and has never been frowned upon. But I'm not trying to say it's painting.
On the "tradition" thing...absolutely not saying it isn't respected because it doesn't have tradition behind it...in fact I'm not even saying it isn't respected...just not as painting. And no one has made the case that it is the same as painting...just a lot of wishing.
Again, the synthesizer guys aren't respected as violin players...not because they don't understand music...but because they aren't playing a violin. You'll never hear them bitch about it because they go "Fuck yeah... listen to this stuff I can do...".
All I'm saying is they're different and trying to make them the same is absurd.
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March 30th, 2012 #131I've never made the argument painting is sculpture. I've made the argument that most painting and oil painting in particular, is three dimensional and sculptural. Not the same thing as sculpture.
People on here are making the argument digital creation is the same as traditional painting which it's not, except in a most superficial way. I've pointed out all the ways they are not the same but people just want something that has no basis in reality yet. My arguments about painting from life still stand; your ability to paint anything is shown in your ability to paint from life, or lack there of. The more tools you need to acomplish something the more it lessens your ability. The reason what I do traditionally is so respected is because it requires more skill than gadgets. Even with in the fine art world, that is true for representational painting. Portrait painters who work from life are more respected than ones who project or work from photos. Same for figure painters. It is reflected in the prices paid for their work.
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March 30th, 2012 #132I was specifially responding to
and his emphasis on
"Painting is inferior to sculpture because in sculpture you actually build something up in space whereas in painting you are only creating the illusion of it. Sculpture is more truthful than painting, painting is a kind of deception. " Was a lame summary of what Plato would say about painting, I was trying to say that the argument of paint vs digital mirrored the old argument about sculpture versus paint. Dpaint has specifally said that painting digitally take less skill, that is a direct quote. If this assertion is true then he, and everyone else, should be able to easily mimic Craig Mullins's or Android's style.
The different artistic mediums that exist aren't automatially important to me, it's the artists who cause the existance of the artworks that is important to me. To me the efficient cause is more important than the material cause, and I respect a great artist working digitally as much as I would a great writer, neither of them creates a material work. When I talk about digital work I mean it in all of it's possiblities not just the ability to make an image sort of like a painting, personally I'm interested in interactive media - video games more than painting. I believe that digital work ultimately takes more skill than painting, since it includes music, acting, game design, programming... it's possiblities are really only limited by the person doing it.
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March 30th, 2012 #133I too care much more about the execution and statement made by the artist...within their unique spheres. I like Sargent equally as much as I like Syd Mead, Android Jones, Frank Lloyd Wright, Andy Goldsworthy and Moebius. In addition, just so no one is confused by my violin analogies...give me a great synth guy any day over a great violinist.
I do think dpaint makes a good point though...heirarchies do exist in art...fine art, commercial, production, doesn't matter...those heirarchies owe their very existence to the skill, training and experience required. I just try to keep them separate and in their own context - apples to apples.
What would Caravaggio do?
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April 1st, 2012 #134I've had people admire some of my work until they found out it was painted in photoshop.
Their head automatically dials to "photo put through cheesy filters."
I used to try to explain to them - no - I use this mystical creature called a "tablet" and draw it from scratch - blah blah blah.
Now I just paint and let the rest of the world do as they please.
having said that, I learned oils in school, and gouache and I think they both taught me miles of things I probably wouldn't know if I had studied digital alone.
Even the first "colour mixing" class taught me things about colours I never knew- warms vs cool- and how red + blue can equal a billion different things based on the type of red, and type of blue.
Getting your hands dirty is a great learning tool and I think everyone should spend time working traditionally in their art journey.
I agree with the people that say digital is easier because it has major tools that save headaches and time.
but there is a stigma on it that I think is greatly undeserved.
Photoshop cannot make decisions. it is a program. It does exactly how much or little that you tell it to.
Instead of using thinners and oils, you're using a layer in which a slider adjusts the opacity. In this example, don't tell me the digital folks have to work as hard to get the opacity just right.
Instead of having to decide which paint brush to use (synthetic or something nice like red sable), digital folks have only to hit [ and ] OR Shift+[ or Shift +] to adjust brush size and softness. Traditional artists have to select the brush (storage and maintenance of the brush is also something digital users do not have to worry about), and decide if the softness/hardness of the bristles is adequate for their painting. Digital folks make that same decision here, however this task is not as difficult for them in my opinion.
With photoshop I have way way more to choose from- they can be any hardness and opacity - that I Choose - there's options for scattering, texture, dynamics, and dynamic colour.
Photoshop also allows you to create your own brush shapes.
12 options vs infinite options...
Also, and lastly, Ctrl+Z.. I don't see any traditional artists who can simply go a step backward as if their last flawed brush stroke *never* happened. We can go back and manipulate it, but in the end, that mistake still occurred and can still have a bearing on the final work.
This is why I feel as if Digital folks don't have half the work traditional artists do - at least not in technique.
How are you defining work? Many digital paintings take weeks to do.
is 50 hours of digital work less work than 50 hours of traditional work? It's less frustrating, and you've probably gone much farther in your piece but 50 = 50.
I choose to work digitally because it's cheap, clean, and attains a level of esthetic that satisfies my personal needs.
I have a tonne of respect for anyone with the patience to work traditionally
but I have no time for people that think digital work takes no skill or effort
and even less time for anyone who thinks they're better then me for any reason.
When your in school or at work, you have to bite the bullet and do what the teacher / boss asks you to do. But what every you choose to do outside of that only has to satisfy you.
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April 1st, 2012 #135And here's the problem I have...disdain for the viewer, be it a peer, teacher or anyone who doesn't buy into the idea that a digital painting is the same as painting. Heck, not even worth the effort to explain it because they just don't know what they're talking about.
OK...so make the case that it doesn't deserve the "stigma" you think exists.
Please discuss artifact, scale, surface, longevity, evidence of the artist's hand, etc.
Not using your brushes right. Cracks me up...I have far more options for scattering, texture, dynamics and color in one brush than all of the brushes in PS. I "choose" the hardness, opacity, edge quality and any other "brush dynamic" all fairly subconciously at this point...though I do really think about marks, texture and other aspects of brush calligraphy as a painting comes to finish.
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I only frown on the idea that they're the same thing.
What would Caravaggio do?
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Still Life
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April 1st, 2012 #136I do realize that I'm walking into a lion's den here, and I'm sorry that I don't have close to 30 years of industry experience to back up my claims, but anyhow... I humbly join the discussion.
I don't think that digital and traditional even require the same skillset, and so a comparison like that falls kind of flat. If what you're saying is true, then wouldn't your digital work be superior to your traditional stuff?
Although both your digital and traditional work are in a different league than many artists on this site, including myself, I don't think I'm the only one who thinks that your traditional stuff is way better than your digital.
April 1st, 2012 #137I had to go potty real bad 'round the end of December, and just got back about a week ago. To catch up, I have to read ALL--EVERY SINGLE WORD--of this stuff, so let me be a bit abrupt here...
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April 1st, 2012 #138It's not that I want people to think it's the same- it's not. I just don't want people to treat it like it's junk that took no effort or skill.
OK...so make the case that it doesn't deserve the "stigma" you think exists.
Please discuss artifact, scale, surface, longevity, evidence of the artist's hand, etc.
I digitally create images that represent assorted images, thoughts or ideas. - it's like a painting - but not.... because it's digital.
As soon as they invent a world for digital painting that doesn't use the precious world "painting" I will use it. I promise.
When I was in animation school (an industry saturated with digital art) I had professors who would disregard any digital work offered to them as non-art.
I think the galleries full of incredible digital art on this site alone speaks to it's validity.
It's a valid art form- that happened to borrow the term "Painting" to define it. Sorry.
Not using your brushes right. Cracks me up...I have far more options for scattering, texture, dynamics and color in one brush than all of the brushes in PS. I "choose" the hardness, opacity, edge quality and any other "brush dynamic" all fairly subconciously at this point...though I do really think about marks, texture and other aspects of brush calligraphy as a painting comes to finish.
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I only frown on the idea that they're the same thing.
Currently I'm employed animating special effects for a kids tv show. I draw every frame by hand, sometimes over a hundred - but when people hear I used a tablet, instead of a pencil - it's "Digital junk".
April 1st, 2012 #139Great - we agree then that they aren't the same thing, so it is then valid for a painting instructor to be dismissive of the student when they try to make the case that they are the same.
I completely agree that digital is a valid art form...particularly when used to express and explore artistic directions not open to more traditional media. I also have mentioned I think the term "digital painting" is as valid a descriptor as any. And certainly in illustration, production, design settings it is an excellent tool, workflow or medium.
What I think you're running into when people are dismissive of a "digital work" or process only tends to occur when it is being used as a substitute for a real world or traditional counterpart. It is a bit difficult to defend an animation instructor, or say an industrial design teacher, who may frown on a digital process (unless of course the assignment was to work traditionally, with markers, pencil tests, whatever). It is important to understand the reasons behind this attitude ...because I think the reasons are valid (in context of course). It isn't that the individual is prejudiced or simply doesn't get it...it's actually because they do get it...and are aware of the differences.
Oh, BTW...I certainly don't snub my nose at digital artists...far from it. I really don't think most people snub their nose at digital art...wherever my work has been shown I've had nothing but interest, sales and a few awards.
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Okay. I'm by no means an expert but it seems to me that digital is a brilliant medium for print work but there is a "remove" of immediency from the artist's hand. I don't see why people should get sniffy about digital art in print, and I don't understand why people should think using digital less of an "art form". Horses for courses.
On the other hand, print doesn't have the delicacy or brutality that a brushstroke can produce in real life. Why is all this hair-splicing going on? Digital art can be beautiful, but if it doesn't demonstrate a solid knowledge of the basics of art or design it will burn and crash.
It would be wonderful if we could produce the same effects by hand that digital can as quickly, but we can't. Traditional art, however is more physical, tactile and sensual than digital will or can ever be.
Why can't we appreciate the differences and just enjoy the art? Doesn't need to start a war...
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April 1st, 2012 #143When you click the "quote" button it sets up the entire post you're quoting. It will start with a snip of code in brackets {QUOTE= poster name; numbers} (only use real brackets) and ends with [/QUOTE]. I just cut and paste the snippet identifying the poster and follow it with the end quote...then insert my pithy remarks. I'm not fully checked out yet to use the fancy plus thing.
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April 1st, 2012 #144I just want to say digital saves you time only in certain circumstances. It does not save me time when a sketchbook and pencil will do.
I wouldn't say it's easier either. It's kinda like how we have major appliances for household chores actually. It actually didn't make everything easier because it opened up to more things we had to do.
Do you think that laundry is "quicker"...maybe drying is certain kinds of washing is, but then you have more clothes and loads. Do you think sweeping is more time consuming than vacuuming?
That's kind of what happens with digital and traditional to be honest. You got more things to do but I don't think it made it easier overall.
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Here we go again...
If you are not able to demonstrate that you can oil paint as well as you paint on computer, why would anybody listen to your opinion about the relation of one to the other in terms of difficulty? Dpaint did not say that doing twenty different things on a computer is easier than painting. He said that painting on computer is easier than painting in real life. Don't switch the argument. Aristotle's four causes compound on one another, so they are all important. (You ignore that media alters design possibilites, for instance.) Saying one cause is more important than another is unsound both as an opinion in the context of this discussion and as a philosophical statement. (Did you just introduce the causes to name-drop Aristotle?) Your statement about the inferiority of paint to sculpture has no merit on any ground that I can think of. It's merely opinion. And you defend it with another opinion. (I can't image why you brought Plato into it.) Your comparison of digital art to writing is aesthetically unsound. (You're a few insights away from understanding the problem.) Your statement that "If digital painting is easier than real painting, then we all should be able to paint like Craig Mullins" is a fallacious argument, because easier does not mean easy.
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April 2nd, 2012 #146People put a lot of hard work into things so they consider what they do to be valid. When someone questions the validity of those things we put so much work into, we get defensive. I think this is where most digital enthusiasts zone out. The justification of the investment of time overrides critical thinking. It becomes an emotional argument, more than an argument based on solid premises.
Working digitally is more convenient. You're using technology to automate the process of image making. You're reducing or eliminating preparation and clean-up. You're condensing tools down to a single input device. Why is that bad though? Lots of good has come from technology. It's the difference between mustang and Mustang.
A lot of what makes painting, painting is the very things that are made obsolete with a tablet and Photoshop.
I only work digital. I'm not belittling the time you have invested. The qualities of each are different, and that's also why they're not equal.
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April 2nd, 2012 #147It's the art discussion forum, I'm just putting up thoughts and then comparing them to other people's. "If you are not able to demonstrate that you can oil paint as well as you paint on computer, why would anybody listen to your opinion about the relation of one to the other in terms of difficulty?" applies to everyone, noone in here is a master of both. I don't claim to be an authority, if I did I would have put up a portrait drawing in this thread: http://www.conceptart.org/forums/sho...d.php?t=175926
On "digital paint is more difficult than real" I was thinking back to this thread: http://www.conceptart.org/forums/sho...d.php?t=201350
I was thinking that the degree of success of a simulation depends on the knowledge of what is being simulated, that a simulation of a painting requires knowledge of painting + skill with a computer program. Plus I'm unable to duplicate the results that he got there, it's hard to do, did you expect me to write the opposite?
Inferiority of paint to sculpture was not my opinion, I should have put it in quotations. I was thinking back on some bits I had seen from arguments in the renaissance about the superiority of sculpture to painting, Leonardo's opinion vs Michelangelo's, some bits of stuff I had heard about Plato's opinion.
I didn't compare digital art to writing, I said I respect a good author and not a bad one, and I respect a good digital artist and not a bad one. I don't care that what they produce doesn't physically-exist. Sucky paintings, digital images, and books all exist but I don't respect them or their creators.
"You ignore that media alters design possibilites, for instance." Isn't a possible thought for anyone. You derived that from "The different artistic mediums that exist aren't automatially important to me", I'm not a writer, I also mispelled "automatically" there.
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April 2nd, 2012 #148The media affects the outcome, you can't separate that no one can. Digital tools were created to allow less skilled people into the pipeline. I've already made this point which people on the other side like to ignore. Digital allows more stuff to be accomplished in the same time frame. More doesn't make it better and this is shown in the amount of utter crap being churned out in games and movies and comics and tv with digital.
The kind of industries that use digital tend to make disposable art. Art that has no intent of permanence to it. That is not so with most traditional painting although it can be, as now a days even traditional art is being devalued by contests and plein air shows and painting demonstrations to feed the make more free crap for me crowd.
This affects the creation of the images. If you are working in games or features your work is being thrown out and forgotten even when it was traditionally made it was like that. This is especially true of digital work; it has no value except to satisfy the need of the client or project. When you remove the physicality of it has no use or purpose beyond that need.
That fact affects its creation. It lessons it in everyone's mind including the artists creating it. It creates an attitude of junk art that anyone can now come and mess with your creation; digital allows the removal of the single artists vision. This was on purpose by the companies pushing the technology.
In the old days the AD or Producer would have to go back to the artist who created the work and have them change something. The momentum was against this nd so the art was less prone to outside influence. Things had to be worked out in advance and designed consciously.
Now digital allows everything to be in play and at the whim of everyone from the director and producer to the marketing department. They can hand it off to anyone else to do it or mess with it themselves as long as its digital. When that happens the original creators learn to anticipate that and it affects the outcome. Anytime you allow art to be designed by committee you lesson its impact when art can be created by committee you've removed the art from it and it becomes no different than a factory line of Nike's.
If digital rtists are so skillful why is it that most stuff made today digitally sucks in comparison to the stuff made traditionally? Where are your equivalent of the golden age illustrators or comics creators working in digital? Where are the shows and movies? For every lord of the Rings there are 100 John Carters. Show me someone who paints well digitally and I'll show you a better traditional painter Show me someone who draws well digitally and I'll show you someone who draws better traditionally and on and on.
If digital creatiors want respect they have to earn it by doing something unique with their medium, otherwise it will stay disposable and a cheap imitation of traditional techniques.
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April 2nd, 2012 #149Some of this can be explained by the following:
- 90% of everything is crap, but people only remember the very good and very bad. Everyone remembers John Singer Sargent, but no one bothered holding on to the half-assed work his neighbor probably made. People hold onto the good stuff, and the rest is washed away and forgotten. But the problem now is...
- Lots of amateur digital artists sharing work - A lot of young, inexperienced artists work digitally. It's also common for these same people post their work online, leading to a wealth of amateur work on the internet. CA seems to be an exception though - there are plenty of mediocre artists posting their work using traditional media as well. Seeing every 12-year-old's digital work can lead to the perception that working digital produces terrible artists. Once that opinion is formed, there is the problem of...
- Confirmation bias - once you've formed an opinion, you see what you want/expect to see. This isn't really a criticism of you: everyone does it. For instance, I see evidence of confirmation bias everywhere.
Beginner artists produce beginner art, regardless of medium. When all the beginner artists share their work online, it can make it look like there isn't much else out there. Traditional art has to be approved by someone before it gets into a gallery or shown in a magazine. The internet has no such barrier.
Of course you can. Oil painting has been around since the 12th century, giving you a very long timeline to cherry pick exceptional artists from. Give digital art a few hundred years to mature and ask again. If you restrict that to living artists, I suspect you may have a hard time finding god-tier traditional artists that don't have 30+ more years of experience than most people working digitally.
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April 2nd, 2012 #150
I admit I stopped reading this thread when I read this. Now, to say that I have respect for Mr. Ferrara's artwork is a huge understatement, but this made me smile.
The ancient Greeks, especially Plato, had very similar things to say about the physical art of painting itself. This somehow seems to me to have a close affinity with Plato's idea of 'mimesis', where he says that (representational) art is a third-order copy, 'mimesis', of the real because it represents, and is not the real.
That is to say, a painting of a chair is not a chair. And similarly, a chair is not the idea of a chair. There is, at least in as much as Plato would have us believe, a single 'eternal idea' of a chair, on which all tangible reproductions of a chair are based. Art, in representing these corporeal chair, becomes a copy of a copy.
This kind of argument, of course, cannot be of much credit now. Because the burnt sienna on a canvas representing a chair is as real as the wooden chair itself precisely because it is paint on canvas. That is to say, it is 'real' because it is a 'real' painting.
Similarly (I think) a digital painting and pixels are real precisely because they are pixels. They are 'real' because they are 'real' pixels.
This might be a little hard to accept right now, the same way it was difficult for Plato to accept the reality of paintings - the fidelity of the 'original painting' is being opposed to the 'copy-paste nature of a digital', the way Plato opposed the 'eternal idea' to a 'temporal painting' - but I'm sure it will catch on.


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Volta Park Weekend a big draw
June 13, 2011
D.C. Mayor Gray and other celebrities joined dog-lovers, parents of small children and other supporters of Volta Park at Georgetown Visitation school on Friday night to drink, dine and bid on an amazing array of goods and services donated by residents and local businesses. President of the Friends of Volta Park Mimsy Lindner welcomed the crowed, which included Ward 2 Council Member Jack Evans,WTOP's political analyst Mark Plotkin, MPD Assistant Chief Pat Burke,.Shirley Debrow and the staff of the Volta Park Recreation Center, ANC members Jeff Jones, Bill Starrels and Ed Solomon, CAG President Jennifer Altemus, and CAG Director Betsy Cooley,
The Friends of Volta Park was founded by John Richardson in 1996 and since then the park has benefited from the influx of families into the neighborhood. Turnout for the party, as well as the many local leaders that made it a priority, reflected the importance of this neighborhood gathering place. All in all a win-win evening!
For more information on Volta Park and to make donations visit: http://friendsofvoltapark.org
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Volta Park Weekend
June 7, 2011Volta Park Weekend,
June 10-12
Kick off the weekend with the Volta Park Cocktail Party & Silent Auction, sponsored by the Friends of Volta Park and 1789 Restaurant. It takes place on Friday, June 10, from 6:30 – 8:30 p.m. at Georgetown Visitation School. Tickets are available at the door, starting at $100 per person.
Volta Park Day on Sunday, June 12th, from 3-6pm:
Mini Ferris Wheel and Moon Bounce
Dunk Tank
Kiddie Games
Cookout and Bake Sale
Live Music
Flea Market
Softball Game (2 p.m.)
Tennis Tournament (Saturday, please e-mail firstname.lastname@example.com to sign up.)
All proceeds from the weekend go towards the maintenance of Volta Park, its field, gardens and playground. For more information, e-mail Mimsy Lindner at firstname.lastname@example.com, or visit www.voltapark.org.
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Unplugged in Bermuda
May 30, 2011My spouse and I recently got away for a few days to Bermuda where, in addition to the spectacular surroundings, we found an added perk: a technology and news blackout. Not a literal blackout, but my cell phone didn't get service and there was wi-fi only in the lobby area. I used my iPad or iPod only when I passed through on the way to the beach, pool or dinner and soon that became a drag. My husband had more options – a working cell phone and a laptop that connected to the in-room internet, but he never turned either of them on.
Further, there was no USA Today at our door each morning. "Newspaper" coverage consisted of a photocopied print-out of a few current British news stories and international headlines.
We could have tried a little harder to get the news, but the TV in the room was tiny and the island was so beautiful that we much preferred to enjoy all that it had to offer rather than checking voice mail or email or catching up on the TV news. In the bars and restaurants everyone seemed to watching some sporting event that involved Barcelona. After the first day we didn't miss any of it and in fact it was really nice to avoid the feeling that there was a call or email I needed to return. I didn't miss hearing about a certain French IMF president's travails, weather disasters or infanticide by parents. Neither did the siren call of celebrity crack-ups, divorces or drunken binges drive me to investigate the sordid details.
It did take a little creativity to work around our instant message style habits. For example, when my husband headed to the beach after an early morning of golf he realized he had no way to let me know where he was so I could meet him later. When he eventually located a hotel phone and left me a voice mail in the room, but it didn't occur to me to check for messages until I finally noticed the blinking light and figured out the hotel's voicemail system. After that we resorted to writing notes (so old-fashioned!)
In Washington both of us daily compose and return scores of emails and texts and checking multiple voice mail accounts not to mention keeping pace with various list serves, news outlets, Facebook, etc. Not all of these communications and interfaces are productive and most are definitely not urgent and yet I often feel compelled to respond to all the stimuli. If I don't there is a nagging feeling of something left undone.
As I packed my various gadgets for our trip I had felt that I needed a lot of electronic stimuli, but in the end I spoke only to my kids on the hotel phone ($2 a minute!) and the movies, books and music I had downloaded to my various I-somethings went unused. Sailing, walking by the beach, drinking my coffee while looking out at the beautiful aquamarine sea and spending each meal conversing and laughing with my husband and our friends took up all my time and finally got my full attention.
In the future I plan to spend at least a little time "unplugged" now and then, and some of those emails might even languish in my "inbox" for a day or two. Or not.
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December 12th, 2013, 09:46 AM | #1 |
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Does liquid rear main sealer actually work?
While attempting to find out why my 4x4 doesn't work; I noticed that there was oil leaking from the bottom of my bell housing; which really could only be a rear main to me. I don't have a place that I could work on it; unless attempting to replace a rear main seal in the parking lot of a snow covered apartment catches my fancy lol
So, is there any of the rear main sealer in a bottle that actually works? I don't expect it to turn my bad seal into a brand new one; I just need something to last a couple weeks until I go home and have a dry place to work Thanks |
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December 12th, 2013, 09:58 AM | #3 |
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I had a leak using synthetic pennzoil. Now I run Rotella T conventional 15w-40 and no problems.
Don't know if the liquid rear main seal stuff works though. |
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December 12th, 2013, 10:31 AM | #5 | |
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slow leak; doesn't leave puddles at least that i've noticed. Checked the oil level and it's still good. |
December 12th, 2013, 10:34 AM | #6 |
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No issue. I used to run 5w-30 conventional Pennzoil. Then switched to the synthetic. Now back to conventional, but 15w-40. Didn't notice any problem. Rotella is great oil and readily available... for cheap!
December 13th, 2013, 09:43 PM | #9 |
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What type of vehicle? Most rear mains nowadays are one piece, so your gonna have to pull the trans back or out, I would Deff try the pro seal... If its not pissing right out its not worth replacing, also from what I've noticed synthetic oils tend to leak more compared to conventional oil, rotella would Deff help also
December 15th, 2013, 10:02 PM | #10 | |
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It isn't pissing out; I did an oil change a couple weeks ago but the oil isn't low or anything yet. It is not leaking a lot but it is leaking. I will try the pro seal; and I believe I am going to switch to rotella 15w-40; I've read a lot of good things about using it and I know a few people that run it on 200k+ engines and have always run it. |
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Sign our online petition for a Paul McCartney Christmas Album 2015
Louise Harrison says she was more than just a big sister to The Beatles' George Harrison. She almost was like his second mother.
"I was 11 years old when he was born," says Harrison, 83, of San Diego. "So I was kind of like a younger mum to him!
"I would look after him, and I'd help him learn how to walk and to talk. And (when he got older and became famous) it was still very much of a supportive relationship."
Now Harrison's brother is gone, and she's found herself continuing that same kind of motherly relationship with a George Harrison impersonator and three other guys in a Beatles tribute band. The Liverpool Legends performs Tuesday at Barbara B. Mann Performing Arts Hall.
'Who was the most important photographer covering the sixties' rock and roll music scene? I can think of no one else whose work was so comprehensive and who captured the essence better than Linda,' Paul McCartney writes about his wife who died tragically of breast cancer at 56.
Paul McCartney remembers his adored wife who died in 1998 with portraits from this family album he states is a testament to her artistic talent.
Linda's passion for music inspired her to work independently and she amassed a major portfolio of photographs of rock musicians from the 1960s to the 1990s.
Linda Eastman McCartney was born in New York City in 1941 and raised in suburban Westchester County.
The Beatles were a constant, compelling presence in the lives of baby boomers for six years between 1964 and 1970. First generation fans, as young as 6 and up through high school and college age, were not only intrigued by the non-stop flow of dazzling new music, images and ideas the Beatles presented; they were also intrigued by the Beatles as people, and boomers emulated the Fab Four in a variety of ways.
A few years ago, Calgary guitar-teacher Brian Griffiths told a student about tearing up the stage with the Beatles in the 1960s.
The student's mother approached Griffiths months later saying, "You know, I really don't care – but he still thinks that you actually knew the Beatles…"
Griffiths didn't correct her, but she underestimated her son's coach.
Griffiths was the guitarist in The Big Three, one of the most popular bands in England, sharing the stage, a manager and many pints with John, Paul, George and Ringo.
The comic book writer on Beatlemania, Stan Lee and Dr Who - and why every Scouser should move to Indiana
Tim Quinn, a comic-book writer from Crosby, has come full circle.
He has lived in Indiana, worked with members of the Rolling Stones, commissioned work from Stan Lee, drawn for Marvel Comics and created a unique Doctor Who comic strip.
Now back on Merseyside, he is publishing a book of his much-loved work on Doctor Who Magazine, and says that compiling it has taken him back to his childhood on Merseyside when the series started.
The childhood home of Beatles legend Paul McCartney is to be sold at an auction in Liverpool's famous Cavern Club for £150,000.The Liverpool childhood property of Beatles legend Paul McCartney has bought for £150,000 at auction.
The terraced residence in Western Avenue, Speke, was exactly where the musician lived with his mothers and fathers from 1947 until the mid-nineteen fifties.
McCartney's mom Mary labored as a midwife at the time, and the relatives are explained to have been well regarded in the neighborhood.
His book gives an insider's account of the tour that changed America.
We all love telling a good story, and Ivor Davis has one walrus of a tale to pass on.
Davis had the unique opportunity to travel with The Beatles on their first American tour almost 50 years ago.
"The amazing thing today, when I go anywhere and talk about The Beatles…people are so fascinated with (them)…were talking about kids to people my age," he says. "Looking back, I didn't realize, at the time, how incredible this experience was. It took me a long time to appreciate that I had gone through this experience."
It's a booking that would have been unfathomable before Firefly Music Festival came to Dover in 2012: Paul McCartney is going to perform a nearly three-hour show of Beatles hits in Delaware this summer.
Forty days after the first rumor surfaced online that McCartney would headline Firefly, it became official Wednesday when Sir Paul was named as the last addition to the fest's 110-act lineup.
McCartney will join Kings of Leon and the Killers as the headliners of the fourth edition of the Firefly – one of the fastest growing festivals in the country.
In their post Beatles careers, each had a day that stands out. Let's take a look at those days, starting with Harrison.
For George, his big day was August 1, 1971.That was the day of The Concert for Bangladesh. It really started in early 1971, when Harrison was dining with Ravi Shankar. Ravi brought up the problems in Bangladesh. He kept Harrison informed. By Spring, the situation turned desperate. Shankar approached Harrison once again. Harrison's response changed the music industry and helped determine his place in music history and as a humanitarian.
Known first as "The Quiet Beatle," George Harrison was a great songwriter who had the misfortune to be surrounded by two stone cold geniuses whose work often obscured his talents. Yet Harrison compositions such as "Something" and "While My Guitar Gently Weeps" are as good as anything the Beatles ever recorded. And with his solo debut All Things Must Pass, he stepped completely out of the shadows of his Beatle band mates to reveal himself a powerfully spiritual songwriter with an expansive sense of melody. Harrison was also a gifted, fluid guitarist and hugely influential in introducing the Beatles — and, by extension, the entire Sixties generation – to Eastern religion and musical influences. His devotion to Hinduism was expressed publicly through rock and roll's first massive charity event, the 1971 Concert for Bangladesh.
The J.J. Hapgood General Store & Eatery in Peru had royalty from the music world drop by for dinner Sunday afternoon.
After spending a day on the slopes at nearby Bromley Mountain, famed musician Paul McCartney and five other people spent about an hour in the dining room enjoying a quiet meal that included margherita pizza and organic kale salad.
Restaurant owner Juliette Britton said she didn't want any hoopla to disrupt the legendary Beatle's visit, so she didn't even notify her coworkers that McCartney was a guest in their presence. Britton said McCartney was joined by his wife, Nancy Shevell, and two other couples.
The Beatles had sung about a day tripper, and I was ready to become one, making a one-day visit from London to the Fab Four's northern hometown of Liverpool. With all the buzz about the 50th anniversary of The Beatles first trip to America, the time seemed right to return the favor with a pilgrimage to the place where it all began. A full day on my own during a recent trip to visit friends in London provided the perfect opportunity to check out the Merseyside Mecca.
A plaque commemorating The Beatles manager Brian Epstein has been unveiled at his birthplace in Liverpool.
The memorial was erected on 4 Rodney Street where the pop impresario was born in 1934.
It was organised by tour guide Marie Darwin who said it was important to mark the birthplace of a "visionary".
It was unveiled by Watford's Viv Jones, once an employee of Epstein, who said she was "very proud" to honour "the man who made the Beatles".
John Lennon's sister Julia Baird and Jeni Crowley who was secretary of The Beatles fan club were also at the ceremony.
Epstein, born into a family of furniture retailers, yearned for a career in the arts and after failed attempts to become an actor discovered The Beatles.
The name Yoko Ono means different things to different people: To some, she's one of the foundational members of the Fluxus art movement, which helped inflect early conceptual art of the 1960s with a performance flair; to others — let's be fair, most others — she's the fifth column that drove a wedge into the most beloved rock band of all time.
The former is true, the latter likely not fair but, by whatever means, she remains one of the most famous people in the world and the keeper of the flame for her late husband, John Lennon.
The George Harrison Memorial Tree, infamously killed by beetles, will be replanted on Feb. 25 in Griffith Park on what would have been the former Beatle's 72nd birthday.
Chris Carter, host of the longest-running Beatles radio show "Breakfast With the Beatles," will MC the event organized by Los Angeles City Councilman Tom LaBonge, in whose district Griffith Park sits.
The ceremony will take place at 4 p.m., north of the Griffith Observatory parking lot. The original tree, a Canary Island Pine Tree dubbed "The George Harrison Tree" on the accompanying bronze memorial plaque, was planted on Harrison's birthday in 2002. "In memory of a great humanitarian, who touched the world as an artist, a musician and a gardener," the plaque reads.
"Saturday Night Live" celebrated its 40th anniversary with a star-studded and surprisingly inclusive televised gala on Sunday evening. The show's legacy in comedy, late-night television, edgy and often surrealist content, and influence on the development of "comedy news" shows like those presided over by Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert, has been well-documented and is impossible to question.
But what about "SNL's" effect on popular music? Well, beyond a doubt, that influence has been equally vast. And it all comes down to the "Live" in "SNL." Yes, for 40 years, the show has offered us warts-and-all performances captured in real time and beamed directly into our living rooms in all their unvarnished glory.
It was where the biggest band of all time cut its teeth. The Star Club in Hamburg, one of the key venues where a little-known four-piece from Liverpool transformed themselves into the Fab Four, is afforded a special status among Beatles fans. Before an audience often more interested in the fleshy delights of Hamburg's Reeperbahn red light district, the Beatles performed not only their own songs but those of other groups and singers whom they admired.
"That was great — and I don't even like that song!" So proclaimed a thirtyish dude last night as Paul McCartney — Sir Paul, Macca, the Cute One, the One Who Once Was the Dead One But Now Blessedly Is One of the Two Still Alive — treated a crowd of 1,000 or so to a stellar, stirring "And I Love Her."
McCartney invested this minor standard with wistful vigor and urgency. "Bright are the stars that shine/ dark is the sky" has accumulated significance over fifty years. Young Paul's stately wisp of a song about romantic timelessness has snuck into the firmament, now as fixed in our lives as stars and sky, but Old Paul's treatment of it sounds far from settled: Savor those new "oooh"s he eases into on a coda.
A little over 30 years ago, the Japanese photographer Kishin Shinoyama walked through Central Park with one of the most famous couples in the world. It was sunset, autumn; they sat on a bench just in front of the pond, bordered by trees, a sliver of New York skyline visible in the distance, including the building where they lived. He asked them to kiss, and he clicked the shutter. Three months later, on Dec. 8, 1980, John Lennon was fatally shot at the entrance to the Dakota, home to him and his wife, Yoko Ono. Just three weeks prior to Lennon's death, Shinoyama's photograph of John and Yoko's kiss at Central Park Pond had appeared on the cover of what would be their final studio album, "Double Fantasy."
He never wanted to be the star of anything. But, that's the place fate left him. He thought he was best as a team player. But we all know there was just too much great music in him to be contained by modesty.
When the Beatles ended all he had held inside came flowing out, manifesting itself in the 1970 album All Things Must Pass — a landmark LP that is still stunning by the quality of the songs and its complete originality. Like it or not, he was now the frontman of the band and more and more great music would flow from him the rest of his life.


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You had your bear, and the stick you had snuck in past Ludwig. You thought heard someone scratching at your window earlier and now there was an odd shadow there. Had he really called him and told him to come? Right then your door opened and you just screamed and swung. Good news is that they caught it all and you.
"Let me go! I'm a good little girl so let me go!!" you kept fighting until finally you opened your eyes. Right then you hugged your big brother tightly and he laughed.
"What the hell was that, little awesome one? Gilbrid woke me up saying that you were scared."
"Kampus is at my window!" Gilbert just looked at you then and soon the clouds moved and you just screamed and jumped to his back. Gilbert just smiled then and soon turned and got you. You had your eyes covered.
"(Y/N) he only comes after bad little children. Why would you think he would come after you?"
"Cus of luddy…. He said I was a bad child because I was covered in chalk… I was just drawing something to surprise you two but because I got dirty he said I was a bad child…" Gilbert sighed then and smiled. He had seen the picture you had drawn, all three of you smiling and standing a field of flowers.
"Oh don't let west's un-awesomeness get to you. For tonight though, let's confuse kampus ok?" you looked at your big brother and he smiled.
"If you sleep with my awesomeness, he won't be able to touch you."
"Really?" he smiled and soon messed up your hair.
"Ja. So let's go ok?" you nodded and quickly grabbed your bear and ran to Gilbert room. He stayed behind and soon opened your window. A snowman made to look like kampus was there and he could see shoe prints that would fit west's feet. He sighed and soon went to his room and soon you were clinging on to his shirt smiling, dreaming peacefully. He stayed awake long enough to start planning revenge on Germany for scaring you though.
*Next morning*
Germany walked downstairs after waking up and soon saw his brother Gilbert waiting for him.
"Good morning Gilbert."
"Had fun last night west?" he froze then and Gilbert nodded.
"You scared the hell out of her just because you were mad she was covered in chalk? She jumped me like I did dad as a child with a bear west." He nodded slowly and right then Gilbert smiled.
"So I did something in return." Germany slowly looked at his brother in fear right as a furry hand landed on his shoulder. Germany screamed like a girl and soon took off running screaming for their father. You took off the head and soon laughed with Gilbert. Outside kampus was laughing as well smiling. Your brothers were always up to something.


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Who got this exercise machine?
I checked out Reye's line of machines when his website was first introduced some time ago.
I don't think we are looking at one machine in that video. It is a bunch of different machines. It would be nice to find a gym that has these machines but for an individual to own all of them would require lots of space and money. The COD looks very interesting. |
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A rare combination of adventure, desire to teach, and ailing kidneys brought Paul Ransom to Florida in 1892. A 30-year-old Harvard graduate with a law degree from Columbia University, Ransom was a lawyer in Buffalo, New York when his doctors ordered him to winter in a warm climate to prolong his life. Soon he traveled to Florida. After a stop in Palm Beach, Ransom headed south to Coconut Grove, where he met author Kirk Munroe. Munroe and his wife Mary eventually sold Ransom seven-and-a-half acres of bayside property to the south of the Scrubbubs, their house. A neighbor to the north was Ralph Munroe (no relation to Kirk), who owned the Barnacle.
Parking was not a concern when Ransom established the Pine Knot Camp on the grounds where Ransom Everglades is located today, but virtuous principles were. In 1896 Ransom began to tutor wealthy boys from New England; he had taught five students the first year. Sailing, Bible study, and "the benefit of an outdoor life," were mainstays of Ransom's pedagogy. "They had to fire shotguns to call in the students," says English teacher Dan Leslie Bowden.
In 1903 Ransom married Alice Carter, daughter of the president of Williams College. The couple soon worked out a deal with the Adirondack School, an elite boarding academy in the mountains of upstate New York. Pine Knot Camp became the site of a winter program and the Adirondack-Florida School was born. Ransom built a bayside schoolhouse, several cottages, and the Pagoda.
Fifty-five years before President Kennedy requested, in his 1961 inaugural address, that Americans "ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country," Ransom uttered a similar entreaty. In a 1906 letter to prospective students, he wrote: "The people in this world may be divided roughly into three classes, according to their attitude toward life. The people in the first class believe, or seem to believe, that they were put into the world to see how much they can get out of it.... The second class is made up of those who do not give life any thought at all -- who do not like to think very deeply of anything.... The people of the third class believe that they are in the world not so much for what they can get out of it as for what they can put into it."
When Ransom died from kidney disease in 1907 at age 44, Alice took charge and appointed the school's first headmaster, Livings Somers. For the next 23 years, Mrs. Ransom managed the school. A 1926 article in the Miami Herald proclaimed the founder's ideals were intact. It quoted Somers: "The Adirondack-Florida School plans to give every youngster under its charge all the advantages of living in the open."
In South Florida living in the open has its perils, of course. The unnamed hurricane of 1926, with its 130 mile-per-hour winds, demolished the school's bayside classrooms and boathouse. Nearly all the pine trees were leveled, too. Other structures survived, including the Pagoda and the cottage, which served as an infirmary. In the spirit of Ransom's altruism, alumni sent copious funds to reconstruct the campus. A two-story, nine-room schoolhouse was completed at water's edge by late 1927.
After Alice Ransom died in 1935, a board of trustees assumed control of the school. It was shut down by the trustees during World War II, and it reopened in 1947 with a mere nine students. But business was slow, so the board voted to separate from the Adirondack School and hold classes year-round. And they came up with a new name: The Ransom School. By then the cottage had another use, serving as headmaster D. Pierre G. Cameron's residence.
As Miami grew so did the school. By the end of the Sixties storms, fires, or construction workers had destroyed most of the original wood-frame structures. Again, only the cottage and the Pagoda survived. The school took on a new look. Bunkerlike, concrete-block buildings and stone edifices with breezeways dominated the campus. The trusty cottage was once again used as the headmaster's quarters.
Throughout its architectural metamorphosis, the school's philosophical foundation endured, says Bowden, age 70, who began instructing at the school in 1955. "We have always tried, especially with children who have so much in the way of advantage and opportunity, to teach them to give and to contribute."
The cottage survived intact during the Seventies, but there were rumblings about demolishing its centurylong companion, the Pagoda.
Bulldozers were ready to topple the Pagoda in the early Seventies. Student Giulio Blanc, who died in 1995, rallied fellow classmates and teachers to appeal to the board. Blanc and his allies prevailed and the school raised tens of thousands of dollars for a historic restoration of the structure, which is now on the National Register of Historic Sites. Eric Buermann, a 1969 Ransom graduate who was president of three alumni association at the time, recalls the episode this way: "There was a group who had no real ties to the building and would just as soon have bulldozed it. They didn't want to waste time talking, restoring, or raising money." Two decades later, as board chairman, Buermann would find that those words applied to the Pagoda's little sister, the cottage.


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Lucky Owl Musical Car Chime
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- Brass & aluminum
- Three chimes tuned in the pentatonic scale
- 9" (22.9 cm) ball chain
- 3" L x 1" W (7.6 x 2.5 cm)
- Made in the USA
Originally a maker of gourd harps and wooden flutes in the 1980's, Jacob Sokoloff turned his musical crafting skills to finely-tuned chimes, creating his phenomenally popular "Waterfall" chime. A musician at heart, Jacob makes the purity of tone his overriding emphasis. He hand tunes each chime he creates, making the pitch of each pipe relatively scaled to the others.
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October 30, 2013 - My fiance & I have found an interest in owls over the past year. He's mentioned how he thinks they're cool; especially on our walks through our state park; some nights we would hear one. Personally, I grew fonder of them once I started reading up on the species. I guess we picked the perfect time to start deeply admiring? In case you haven't noticed (I'm on the East Coast), owls are the "in" thing right now. I hate being involved in fads; in fact, I try to avoid them! But in this case, I don't care too much. We have been decorating our new home with fun little accents of owls; being that they are one of the love birds. :^) Anyway, sorry for rambling. I wanted this chime for my fiance, but didn't want him to feel like he was putting a feminine piece in his car. I also didn't want it being over-sized. It worked out great. As you can see by the picture, this owl is a very "stern" owl; much more masculine then some of the other owls we have been seeing. I think it's hilarious for just-that-reason & adorable due to its size. It doesn't distract or get in your view (at least not with the make of his car). It's gives off a soft chime; nothing obnoxious. It's perfect for the aggressive driver...Woosah...Haha!
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Vanguard's annual Spring Classical Concert continues to be a favorite among the local community because it combines the Vanguard University Concert Choir and Concert Orchestra with the St. Andrew's Presbyterian Church Sanctuary Choir. Each year the Spring Concert brings us a combination of prestigious classical pieces with the freshness of a Vanguard University music performance. Recent performances have included the works of Felix Mendelssohn, Franz Joseph Haydn, Franz Schubert, W. A. Mozart, G. F. Handel, and many other famous composers as well as some contemporary composers such as Dan Forrest.
Spring Classical Concert 2014:
Part One:
Gloria in D, RVRV589
Antonio Vivaldi (1678 – 1741)
Antonio Vivaldi composed this Gloria in Venice, probably in 1715, for the choir of the Ospedale della Pietà, an orphanage for girls (or more probably a home, generously endowed by the girls' "anonymous" fathers, for the illegitimate daughters of Venetian noblemen and their mistresses). The B minor "Et in terra pax is in nearly every way a contrast to the first. It is in triple rather than duple time, in a minor key, and rather slower. Its imitative and expressive chromatic texture evokes the motets of the Renaissance era, the so-called "stile antico." "Laudamus te," a passionate duet for soprano and mezzo-soprano, gives us some hint of the skill of Vivaldi's young singers at the orphanage. Today Vivaldi is one of the most popular of all composers, who during his lifetime enjoyed considerable success and fortune, which he squandered through extravagance, and when he died in Vienna he was buried in a pauper's grave. For two centuries after his death, the Gloria lay undiscovered until the late 1920s, when it was found buried among a pile of forgotten Vivaldi manuscripts. However, it was not performed until September 1939 in Siena in an edition by the composer Alfredo Casella. It was not until 1957 that the now familiar original version was published and given its first performance at the First Festival of Baroque Choral Music at Brooklyn College, in New York.
Part Two:
Gloria (from Twelfth Mass in C)
attributed to W.A. MozartAppreciation of the music of Wolfgang Amadeus
Mozart (1756-1791) developed only centuries after his death, and only recently has scholarship found that the "Twelfth Mass," attributed to him in the 19th century–when it was, with his "Requiem,"his most popular sacred work–was probably composed by Wenzel Müller.
Gloria from "Mass in G"
Franz Schubert (1797-1828)
Franz Schubert's Mass in G represents both the work of the young composer and the early stages of the Romantic era of Western classical style, in which the music takes the listener on a harmonic journey that arrives ultimately back at its beginning. Schubert wrote the Mass in G when he was 18 and a schoolmaster in his father's school in Vienna. The Mass No. 2 in G Major was written within the space of five days, March 2-7, 1815. This is the shortest of Schubert's seven masses, intended for performance in his parish church of Lichenthal.
Hallelujah, Amen! (from Judas Maccabaeus)
George Frideric Handel (1685-1759)
Judas Maccabaeus was written in 1746, five year after 'Messiah,' when Handel was 61, and was first performed in London at the Covent Garden Theatre the following year. It owes its inception to the victory of William, Duke of Cumberland over Charles Edward Stuart the Pretender at the battle of Culloden on 16th April, 1746, and was planned as a compliment to the Duke upon his victorious return from Scotland.
Conducted by Dr. James L. Melton (Vanguard University/St. Andrew's Presbyterian Church). Featuring the Vanguard University Concert Choir and the St. Andrew's Presbyterian Church Sanctuary Choir, accompanied by professional orchestra, with members of the Vanguard University Orchestra.
Date & Time:
April 27st at 4:00pm
St. Andrew's Presbyterian Church
600 Saint Andrew's Road
Newport Beach, CA 92663
For more information and to purchase tickets, please visit our website at www.standrewstickets.com or call the Vanguard University Music Office: (714) 619-6410
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55 Fair Drive
Costa Mesa, CA 92626
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Just in time for St. Patrick's Day, The Irish Arts Center is making news. The New York Times reports today (February 16) that the cultural organization will be building a $54 million home on 11th Avenue between 51st and 52nd Streets in New York City. The construction will begin in March 2015, with a targeted opening by the end of 2016, added http://www.nytimes.com.
"It didn't adequately reflect the importance of the institution's contribution to New York culture," Gabriel Byrne, the actor and center supporter, said in a telephone interview to The Times. "I thought we should work towards, not just a new building, but a new definition of what it means to be Irish — not just in this city but in this country."
A 1916 building will be the new home
"Under the new plan, the center is taking over a 1916 building, now occupied by Cybert Tire — constructing five new stories but maintaining the brick facade. The new building will increase the center's space sevenfold — to 35,000 square feet from 5,000; its theater will grow to 199 seats from 99; and the operating budget will double to $4 million," added the article today.
Mr. Byrne said to The Times that the center could serve as an incubator for Irish contributions to the arts. "Irish-Americans have to grow their own culture," Mr. Byrne said. "They can't be dependent on simply bringing in things from Ireland. The Irish-American voices are largely silent. There just isn't a factory for that to grow," added the actor.
"The arts center wants to be that factory, its own incarnation of the Brooklyn Academy of Music or the 92nd Street Y — with theater, live music, book events, conversations and film — and to attract audiences from all over," according to The Times report.
The project's design architect is Ciaran O'Connor, the chief state architect for Ireland's Office of Public Works; Davis Brody Bond is the architect of record; Jonathan Rose Companies is the project manager, adds the report.
"Mr. Byrne, who with the actor Liam Neeson has helped attract donations to the center, said the new home would be important not only as a place to generate artistic activity but also as a place to bring Irish people together and cement their ethnic identity," adds The Times article.
Staten Island arts enthusiasts, its good to know that our borough's large Irish community will be getting a new place to call home for arts, entertainment, and social networking. For more about this interesting news story visit http://www.nytimes.com and find out how you can contribute to growing Ireland's cultural identity in the New York City arts scene.


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According to a release from Under Armour, Maryland football will wear a newly-introduced version of their uniform, called White Ops, against West Virginia.
The all-white design features numbers with a "distinct, Maryland-inspired pattern, called Mariflage." The release also acknowledges that this new white version makes a "more discreet statement" than the flashy Pride uniforms. Lady Gaga's concert wardrobe is less flashy than those Pride uniforms, so I can't imagine "more discreet" was a tough design goal.
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You can turn a plain white sweatshirt and T-shirt from drab to fab with this tie dye plaid project idea from I Love to Create. This project will teach you how to dye shirts in ombre plaid for a cool new look.
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Sweatshirt - Lay damp sweatshirt on prepared surface. Refill black dye bottle with water to fill line, you will have a diluted black (closer to grey).
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Improving Flickr discovery through Wikipedias AbstractThis paper explores how to discover unexpected information in existing folksonomies (serendipity) using extensive multilingual open source repositories as the underlying knowledge base, overcoming linguistic barriers at the same time. A web application called Flickrpedia is given as a practical example, using Flickr as the folksonomy and diverse natural language Wikipedias as the knowledge base.
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Huebner Oaks Veterinary Hospital
12058 Vance Jackson
Suite 101
San Antonio, TX 78230
M-F: 7:00a.m. – 6:00p.m.
Sat.: 8:00a.m. – 12:00p.m.
About Huebner Oaks Veterinary Hospital
In case of an emergency, please contact our 24 hour facility, VitalPet Town & Country Veterinary Care Bandera Road Hospital, 10350 Bandera Road, Ste 100, San Antonio, TX 78250, 210-684-1448.
Huebner Oaks Veterinary Hospital was established in 2001. The hospital was formerly Colonies North Animal Hospital, which had been established in 1966. Dr. Marc Zieben graduated from Texas A&M University in 1984 and then came to San Antonio to work for Dr. Gerald Parker. Dr. Zieben and his wife, Morna, purchased the hospital in 1990. Since then he has been the determining factor in turning the practice into the state of the art hospital it is today.
Our knowledgeable staff is full of caring and compassionate animal lovers who all greatly enjoy their chosen profession. Here at Huebner Oaks Veterinary Hospital we offer full service veterinary care, including vaccinations, preventative and emergency care as well as a full service boarding kennel. Our doctors are trained in all aspects of small animal surgery, internal medicine, radiology, ultrasound technology and endoscopy. Our clients and their beloved pet friends are always our number one priority.
Staff Members
Samantha Alvarez, Practice Manager
Samantha has been in the veterinary field for about 10 years and has been working at VitalPet Huebner Oaks for the past 4.5 years. Throughout the years she has learned valuable information about the love and care animals need to live a happy and healthy life and is always eager to share her knowledge with new owners. She has 2 cats (MooMoo & Hailey) a dog (Zephyr) and a koi fish (Stormy). In addition to spending most of her time at the veterinary clinic, she also enjoys being outdoors, running, hiking, camping, swimming and reading.
John, Technician
My name is John and I have worked in the field about 8 years and I love what I do. When not at work I spend my time with my wife Crystal and daughter Judith. I have 2 pets, a pit-bull terrier mix named Aiden and a Maine Coon named Sardine. My interests outside of work include creating fine and digital arts.
Shayna, Groomer
Shayna has a true passion for grooming and styling pets. She loves pampering her furry friends with a great spa experience. Shayna is a proud registered member of the National Dog Groomers Association of America. She spends her time at home with her two beautiful boys. Her boys keep her pretty busy, but when she gets time for herself, she enjoys reading a good book or a game of backgammon.
Crystal, Receptionist
My name is Crystal. I have been in the Veterinary field for a little over 7 years now and I love it. I can't imagine working in an environment without animals. Toby (our clinic bird) is very special to me. He loves animals as much as we do. I have a 2-year-old pit bull mix named Aiden who I took in as a stray and a 5-year-old maine coon mix named Sardine. I love to spend my free time with my husband John and our 6-year-old daughter Judith. I have been in the veterinary field her whole life so she loves animals just as much as I do and wants to rescue every stray animal she sees. For the time being she would like to be a Veterinarian when she grows up or a professional wrestler. I am pregnant with baby #2 and can't wait for her to join us.
Megan, Technician
Megan lives in San Antonio with her husband and 18 month old son. Her family also includes 2 cats, a Boxer, and an American Pit Bull Terrier. She began working in a veterinary clinic in 1995 and has been with Huebner Oaks Veterinary Hospital since 2005. She has a passion for teaching, in addition to her passion for animals, and is a certified middle school Math teacher for the State of Texas. In her spare time she enjoys spending time with her son, playing piano, arts and crafts, crochet, and photography.
Kelly, Technician
Kelly is a new addition to Huebner Oaks as of March 2013. She has cared for many animals over the last 12 years as a veterinary technician all over central Texas. Currently, she is studying to become an RN, giving the human medical field a shot.
My name is Justine, since I was in 3rd grade I've known working with animals is what I want to do. I am currently in school completing my basics before beginning my journey to becoming a vet tech. I have a passion that I hope will help me become a vet one day. I absolutely love my dog Sammi & bunny Charlie.
Marcos has lived in San Antonio all of his life and is on his last year at Texas A&M as an Animal Science major. He has a true passion for the well being of animals and hopes to become a veterinarian in the near future. He enjoys running, playing music and spending time with friends and his dog Ringo.
Hello, my name is Devon Leigh Starks. I am a receptionist here at VitalPet Huebner Oaks Veterinary Hospital. I have 1 dog and recently adopted a cat named Cleopatra. I am currently in school majoring in criminal justice and have plans on being a forensic scientist one day. When I am not at work or school, you can find me with family or friends. I love hiking, swimming, running and painting.


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The Present
A Timely Gift From the Author of Who Moved My Cheese?
Spencer Johnson, M.D.
Dr. Spencer Johnson's stories of timeless, simple truths have changed the work and lives of millions of readers around the world. Now comes an insightful new tale of inspiration and practical guidance for these turbulent times.
The Present
The Present is the best gift you can receive because it makes you happy and successful!
Whether it means …
• Having peace of mind and feeling more alive; or
• Being more productive and more prosperous; or
• Finding whatever is important to you and to those you work and live with.
The Present
The Gift that Makes You Happy and Successful at Work and in Life
For over two decades, Spencer Johnson has been inspiring and entertaining millions with his simple yet insightful stories of work and life that speak directly to the heart and soul.
The Present is an engaging story of a young man's journey to adulthood, and his search for The Present, a mysterious and elusive gift he first hears about from a great old man. This Present, according to the old man, is "the best present a person can receive."
Later, when the young boy becomes a young man, disillusioned with his work and his life, he returns to ask the old man, once again, to help him find The Present. The old man responds, "Only you have the power to find The Present for yourself." So the young man embarks on a tireless search for this magical gift that holds the secret to his personal happiness and business success. It is only after the young man has searched high and low and given up his relentless pursuit that he relaxes and discovers The Present—and all of the promises it offers.
The Present will help you focus on what will make you happy and successful in your work and in your personal life. Like the young man, you may find that it is the best gift you can ever give yourself.
From the Trade Paperback edition.
"Many of the people I have observed could have been even happier and more successful, in their careers and their lives, had they been given the gift of The Present."
Norman Augustine, Fmr. Chairman and CEO, Lockheed Martin Corp.,
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