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"I am absolutely sure he never knew what hit him," Dr. Tom Shires, chief surgeon, Parkland Hospital, Dallas, November 22, 1963
If you remember the assassination of John F. Kennedy, you'll agree we didn't know what hit us either. It was an act equally as shocking and incomprehensible then as the attacks on the World Trade Center were almost four decades later.
The assassination of our president literally rocked our world. It was the seminal experience of the Baby Boomer generation -- even those still too young to fully understand at the time would come to feel its aftermath.
The sudden--and too easy--shooting of JFK and then, incredibly, the wanton shooting of his captured assassin while surrounded by police, and on live TV, changed our lives profoundly, just as 9/11 changed our children's. Our complacency, our sense of safety, fair play and trust in American invincibility were shattered in an instant, never to be truly regained.
You remember where you were, what you saw, how you felt on 9/11 and its immediate aftermath. Believe me, you always will. Those of us old enough to remember the events surrounding JFK's assassination can pull up images and feelings as if it were yesterday. Even though it was 45 years ago today.
Friday, November 22, 1963. I remember how excited my sister and I were that morning. We didn't want to go to school. Our cousin Polly, one of the "big girls" (i.e. in the tier of cousins 10-15 years older) was getting married that weekend. We'd have to sit in the synagogue's balcony and be very quiet, but still, it was such an honor to be included.
Even better, the wedding was in the town where we'd been born and we were going to stay the whole week after the wedding and have a traditional Thanksgiving with our father's family. Which was going to be so much better than the two we'd endured since our father's death in August, 1961.
We'd see all the relatives, be fussed over, stuffed with food, play with cousins and friends we hadn't seen in a long time. Three days off from school that Thanksgiving week, so of course our mother said we couldn't stay home Friday, November 22, 1963.
There we each sat in our classrooms, fidgety, thoughts anywhere but on our schoolwork, imagining the pretty party dresses we'd wear, how the bride would look in her white gown, the bridesmaids in their matching blue ones, who would take us ice skating, how many sleep overs and in whose houses, what movies we'd see, let's go, let's go, won't this school day ever be over?
Then footsteps running in the hallway. Doors banging. One of the older girls bursting into our classroom. Crying so hard she could barely speak. Before the teacher could move, shouting, "They killed him! They killed him! He's dead! He's dead." Just like that, each horrid sentence repeated twice, scaring us, maybe even scarring us. I'll never forget it. I can see her face, hear her voice to this day.
I didn't even know yet who she was talking about, but I've never forgotten my first thought, Oh, please don't let them stop the wedding! I've never really gotten over the guilt of such childish selfishness. Yes, I know it's irrational, especially in today's world. But on Friday, November 22, 1963, my world, which had been so innocent, wasn't like today. That would change. Fast.
Things I remember. First, pandemonium. Children and teachers crying, hugging, confused, then, as the word spread that the president was dead, some refusing to believe, my best friend laughing, saying, Oh, it's a practical joke. Arguments, more tears.
Teachers so uncharacteristicly helpless, trying to maintain order, decide what to do. Moving everyone into the main hall. Then, a radio is on, total silence falls as a man's voice says unthinkable words. "President John Fitzgerald Kennedy is dead. He was shot today in Dallas."
Shot? The president was shot? How? No. The president doesn't get shot. He's the president. Where is he? Who did it? What's going on??? School closes, parents are called.
I remember looking out the car windows on the drive home into other cars, seeing faces streaked with tears. Heads shaking No, No. People standing on the sidewalk, hands to their faces, shoulders heaving with sobs. Strangers holding onto strangers for comfort, for reality.
At a stoplight, one black woman in a gray coat sitting on the curb, head down in her hands, slumped over, rocking, crying. Another standing, her hand patting the woman's shoulder, tears streaming down her face too. I can still see that face to this day.
My mother crying. "I remember when FDR died. That was bad. This is much worse." We were so stunned, so afraid, we almost couldn't cry. "Will there be a war?" my younger sister asking. "Will we all be killed?" Our mother reassuring us as best she could, then turning to the phone. Telling us to make sure we were packed.
The TV stayed on. All assassination all the time. No cable back then. No VCRs. But you couldn't turn away. Wouldn't. The country glued together through television, in mourning. In disbelief. In fear.
Then our car radio on for the two and a half hour drive. Not the joyous welcome that should have been, but still, loving arms, hugs, tears and smiles. In every house the TV stayed on. There would be no ice skating. Instead, everyone in front of the TV watching a lying in state. A country in despair, a new president trying to tamp down the fear, encourage calm without showing disrespect.
The wedding was held on schedule. For a few precious hours two families embraced joy and happiness and promise for a newly married couple, trying to forget the newly minted widow in the White House. Now I realize it must have been even harder for my mother, not so long a widow herself.
Then back to the TV, the state funeral on Monday, scenes no one could ever forget, even if you've only seen the pictures. Jackie and little Caroline kissing the flag-draped coffin. The caisson pulling the coffin behind the rider-less black horse, stirrups turned backwards to signify death.
The widow and his brothers, walking, she draped in a black veil that fell to her waist. At the grave site, a flat stone circle, bending to toddler John-John, whispering. Then in his little coat and cap he bravely steps forward and salutes. An image of a lifetime. Tears come just remembering.
The eternal flame is lit. The country must go back to business. No one can. Still the TV is on. Reports about the widow, the children, endless loops of the shooting, both shootings, the widow standing in her blood-soaked suit next to the new president as he's sworn in. The assassin himself shot on live TV. More loops of the funeral, the child's kiss, the little boys' salute.
We and the other cousins don't want to watch any more. We want to play, to feel our world isn't ending. We want to know Normal will be back soon. My sister and I, maybe even our older married sister, having too many flashbacks of our own father's funeral in this very town, where we no longer live. And suddenly don't want to be.
My mother feels the same. Again she's on the phone. Suddenly in a flurry of movement, we're packing, saying goodbyes, climbing in the car. Hitting the road for home. Realizing Philly is home now. No radio. A mother, two girls, quiet, trying to absorb five phantasmagoric days of, well, maybe a tiny bit of heaven, but mostly just plain hell.
Thanksgiving day we are pulled into the warm, welcoming circle of my mother's family, cousins who have cared for us the past two years gladly adding our three plates back to the tables again, making us realize we hadn't endured, we'd been protected, sheltered, loved.
Discussions, talk of what had happened, what would likely come next, sure. Always lively talk at the adult table. And at the kids table, laughing, teasing, telling 'dirty' jokes, stealing a glass of wine and sharing sips, trying to act grown up, though it tasted like piss. Bursting into gales of giggles as one of the younger cousins can't help it, spits the bitter wine in an arc onto the table.
No TV on. Just the music of family voices. And so even after that harrowing, frightening, world-changing, life-altering week, Thanksgiving Day, November 28, 1963 is the one that meant the most.
Please, share your memories of JFK's assassination. Where you were, what you thought or said, whatever.
And then move forward into a new generation.
It is burned into my consciousness forever. My mom cried for 3 days.
The funeral was perhaps one of the most moving events in my memory.
In my school, the teachers cried and broke down but did not tell us what was going on. School continued, and I found out after I got home. Walter was a comfort.
You are so right. It changed everything. Then Bobby being killed was the end of hope.
Not until now have we regained that hope which is why we need to remember today.
thank you, Sally, rated.
Thanks Sallly, an important story. I have a shot of the sixth floor Texas School Book Depository building with a tree in the foreground framing the infamous window here.
What is amazing, in touring the Sixth Floor Museum, is reading all the vile hatred directed at JFK from the locals in Dallas. Letters to the editor, publications...not sure all the hatred had much to do with his killing in Dallas, but it still came as a shock. There was a culture in the South that reveled in that hatred.
I actually was thinking the other day about writing about john-john (JFK, jr) - but haven't fully formulated it yet. But, you're right the images from those days are indelible.
My only memory of that day is vicarious; my mother said she was out of the house on an errand that day and heard the news about JFK when she was picking up our fixed kitchen radio. She said her most visceral feeling was one of "I must get back to my children!" I don't think she feared a war or attacks on this country by any other, but she did have the "nothing will ever be the same again" feeling.
I remember Martin Luther King's and Bobby Kennedy's assassinations more clearly. Mostly through seeing my mother cry, when she almost nevercried. I was not what you'd call a politically aware child. I think I saw some of the roll call of the states on our old black and white TV during the 1968 DNC. I remember wondering what "boats" had to do with anything?
I just hope and pray the Secret Service will be able to protect Obama from sharing the fate of JFK, MLK and Bobby.
This is a wonderful memorial, and I am so glad you have written it.
Your story is perfectly told. We each remember those days in the lens of our family life. We gathered together for those days in the way that we would gather for weddings and funerals and holidays. Personal events unfolded amid the national tragedy---and they will always be marked, remembered, cast in the greater context.
I'm not sure of your age. I am 55, and I remember so much about Kennedy---his run for office; the Cuban missile crisis; Jackie losing her baby, Patrick; John Jr. and Caroline; the dogs; the pony---so, so much. On the day of the assassination," Look" Magazine (or maybe" Life," they were interchangeable) was on the news stands with a pictorial of the family in the White House. It is from that magazine that the famous photos of John, Jr. playing under the desk come from---and, as I said, it was available for purchase that week. My father had bought me a copy earlier in the week. (I would drive my parents mad, always insisting that we by any magazine featuring the First Family. I was obsessed.)
I remember everything about November 22, from the moment our teacher announced that he had been shot. It was his death was confirmed. I remember that my father arrived in what seemed like minutes to pick me up. I remember the short drive home, the radio on, the madness unfolding, my father crying, the worry about did this mean war? And, at home, I remember the announcement, the confirmation: the president was dead.
It seems as though no in my family slept at all for the next 4 days. The TV was always on---in those days, stations would go off the air for several hours, and I assume they must have done so during those 4 days— but my memory is of constant broadcasting.
A few years ago, I was in Dallas, and I was out with some of the guys I worked with, we were heading back to our hotel from a hockey game, of all things, our route taking us past the book depository. There is a single small light marking the window from which the shots were fired. The car fell absolutely silent as we drove past.
No matter what one may think of his presidency, his father, his politics or his personal behavior, his assassination is a wound from which this country has never fully recovered---until now.
With luck---we have the opportunity to recover now. That hope is what drives so many of Obama supporters.
EVERYTHING changed.
(BTW---so much for the "not being able to write" you just needed a rason. And you found a pretty important one. . .)
JFK's assassination, and the equally ugly events that followed, created far too many cynics and nihilists among my age group.
These things couldn't happen here -- but they did. I thought the final such blow came on the street in front of the Dakota. As I put it back then:
Where were you when the shots rang out
In November '63?
I was shakin' dirt in a foundry job
With a lot of guys like me
It got so still you could hear the wind
As we all drew in our breath
We stood there numb and searched our minds
For a reason for his death
It was Camelot and quite a lot
We didn't know yet then
That fell that day and for me, I'd say
The beginning of the end
Where were you when the shots rang out
In Dakota's darkened door?
The good die young, but when they do
What is it they die for?
I cried an empty keening cry
And struggled for my breath
I guess every man's a helpless child
Standing face to face with death
Strawberry fields, nothing is real
I felt so lost again
The music died, I sat and cried
And waited for the end
But sad as those events were, they were far from the end of the assault on my innocence. I would have to suffer through 9-11 and Katrina and Gitmo and Abu Gharib and eight of the longest, most depressing years of my life, as I wondered what had become of my country and that magical American Dream.
Now every day I pray that a leader I've placed what's left of my hopes in, doesn't meet the same fate as the last leader I placed my hopes in. Please, Dear God, please don't let all my dreams die.
I don't know if the consensus was that it is or is not proper etiquette to comment on comments in other people's blog---so, Sally, I hope you don't mind---but I just had to let you know how moving your comments here are---thank you for sharing your poem/song.
I remember walking down the hall to the door and seeing teachers, students and arriving parents huddled, crying and talking in soft tones. No one was overly excited, but there was a sense of disbelief and extreme sorrow in the air. Outside, I met up with my sister and a few friends - hers & mine - and we got on the bus for the slow, quite ride home.
We were met at home by our maid with open arms to comfort us, until our mother & father arrived and as a family; we seat in the den watching the news unfold. Everything that day seemed to be in slow motion, with every detail permanently etched into my mind and from that day forward, America changed forever.
Thanks for allowing me to post this entry.
I was probably too young to understand the event's importance. I remember becoming bored during the days of mourning when there was nothing on the television except watching people file past the casket, lying in state in the capital. And, finally, the funeral, that interminable funeral.
I remember seeing Jack Ruby kill Lee Harvey Oswald, live on TV. I remember the Warren Report. My dad, a conservative and someone who didn't think much of Kennedy, never stopped believing there was a conspiracy and a cover-up.
A fitting memorial, Sally. Thanks very much for writing it.
M.a.h., I don't know of any rules about commenting on comments and this is my blog, so I say why not. We're all communicating with each other, right? In this case, you got there before me... Tom, OMG what you wrote is just simply masterful.
Everybody, please read Tom Cordle's comment above.
Here's what I want to know: You say your teachers and the other adults--like your dad's family and, separately, your mom's family days later--all demonstrated grief and upset over the loss. Did all these adults vote for Kennedy? I know this question seems heartless or naive or something, but as someone who came of age in the very partisan Reagan years (I was born in 62), I have always wondered at the seemingly bipartisan outpouring of grief for Kennedy. Is it true? Did everybody just let go and feel bad or was there some distinction in reaction from those who supported Kennedy and those who did not? This is a serious question that I hope someone will answer.
1. I just saw Geraldo Riveres show a clip of him in 1975 introducing the Zapruder film and saying (yesterday) that it was the first time the footage was ever shown. So in this clip above, it seems to show that Zapruder footage. Was it spliced in there since the original broadcast?
2. What was Jackie O reaching back for across the car? I can't tell by the film, even though I've watched it several times.
A lot of people voted for Nixon, in fact it was a squeaker of an election and many pundits agree JFK's father/campaign team bought/rigged voting in Chicago to put him over the top. Still, even though many people didn't like him as president, his assassination was so bizarre and frightening and unexpected at the time that most felt grief (or maybe just fear) out of genuine respect for the office and America. And frankly, for Jackie and the little kids.
From your other comment:
1. No, Geraldo was Not the first person to show the Zapruder film, I don't remember exactly when, but it came out fairly quickly. I'm going to research that. He's such scum.
2. You're not going to like this answer, it's extremely creepy, but I've heard and read many times that those who watched the film as journalists and experts who studied it frame by frame during the Warren Commission investigation say Jackie was reaching for the piece of her husband's head torn away by the shot(s?).
Paws up.
I have been to the Sixth-Floor museum, and was amazed at how small Dealy Plaza is. You can walk from one end to the other in less than a minute.
I was in school in Florida when it happened that early afternoon and the teacher was going to go ahead with a math test and a lot of us just walked out of the room. One of the first protests of my life.
We were glued to the TV the whole weekend like the rest of the country. It was the first social network.
The whole world loved Kennedy (as they do Obama). And the world mourned together. It was indeed the end of innocence.
As for other moments that united a nation - if not the world, I can only recall the Moon Landing and 9/11. The fall of the Berlin wall and the shuttle tragedies were major moments, but not realtime events that stopped society cold.
It's funny how something 45 years gone can well up such strong emotions. Maybe it's because we were so young that the scars run so deep. Thank you for sharing your story. And thanks for doing so in such a powerful way that those not born at the time can begin to understand just how it felt.
It was for many of us, the end of innocence and the stormcloud telegraphing 1968's demise of hope. If 68 signaled the coming of winter, may 2008 herald the rebirth of spring.
I didn't want anyone to miss that.
When the teachers returned, they had been given the time to compose themselves. We would be going home early. The buses were on the way. It was, even to us, only elementary school kids, self-evident that this was the right thing to do.
Just a year earlier, we were practicing air-raid drills. Leave the school and lie face down on the ground outside. Nuclear weapons might rain down on us at any moment. We couldn't help but peak skyward to see the missiles coming down (I had nightmares for years about nukes raining down on us; we lived within miles of one of America's nuclear arsenals and the advice we internalized was that it would be better to catch the missile by hand and be obliterated instantly than to be one of the nearby short-term "survivors.")
I can't recall how the other pupils reacted. I just know I was numb and determined not to cry.
I rode the bus home. As usual, I went about my own affairs while my little sister told my mother every detail of her day. I crawled under my bed and cried my eyes out. Ultimately, my mom came looking for me. She was surprised to see me so emotionally affected and I was embarrassed to be found cowering under my bed, crying.
I knew it was bad, but I was 7, nearly 8, and went on with my existence. I played football outside during the dramatic days of the lying-in in the Capitol rotunda. It was warm enough that we still had the door open, and I actually watched through the screen door while Jack Ruby shocked the world by shooting Lee Oswald.
I don't remember television before that day, but from that day forward, television was my lifeline to the world. I became the kind of kid who insisted on watching the evening news (Huntley and Brinkley were my icons), and I'm convinced that the first president I knew made a tremendous impact on me and the man I would become.
My embarrassing acknowledgement, Sally, is this. When Mr. Reagan was shot in 1981, I had no grief, no emotional reaction, and that too (my reaction), made me understand that who our leaders are is less important than what they stand for.
I was on my bed in my room studying when Dave Feibush went running through the halls shouting "the president's been shot", Feibush was the kind of guy who'd think a tasteless joke like that was funny, and it just annoyed me, but a few minutes later I noticed how the dorm was unnaturally quiet, so I left my room and went down the hall to where I found a bunch of guys spilling out of Bob Clinton's room listening to his radio, we hung there in stunned disbelief, hoping, until they finally announced he was dead
there was a big Catholic church across Union Street from the south college gate, and I went there to meditate and pray, though I wasn't a believer, but it was his faith and I felt the need to honor him
I'd heard that nobody ever forgot where they were when they heard about the attack on Pearl Harbor, and knew that this day would be engraved in my memory the same way, the first great loss of our generation, harbinger of so many losses to come


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If she wants Justin bieber then tell him. That all she has to do He can not read her heart a mind. Yes it took my girl a couple of month to realize she needs to tell me that she want me back after we did that we have been happier ever sense that day. She need to stop being afaid of whats going to happen and Just said to Justin Bieber I want you back. Look He has the only one that really care for her. Where was her mom when she got food posion from the Jay leno tonight show. The only person I remember showing up was Justin Bieber. He took her to the doctor office one day when she wasn't feeling go that show he care Her Mom never show up their either. But You guys do not seem to see that and I am talking to you Bonnie. She want him tell him and maybe he will stop hanging around girls. Pretty soon he going to find one Justin like selena and the real selena going to losed out.
It's obvious from some of the terms Taylor uses and the stance she has taken that she understands addiction issues very well. Words like "enable" and "tough love" come straight out of addiction treatment. They are terms I am sure Selena's old friend Demi Lovato knows very well because she's been in treatment herself
It's apparent addiction specialists have talked to Selena's friends and family.and Selena has an addiction problem with Justin. She knows he's bad for her, but she keeps taking him back, like he's a drug. Its obviously not just Taylor, it's people like Demi and Selena's family that are making sure not to enable Selena and are using "tough love" and staying away from her. It seems likely they did an intervention, but she refused help. She is in a destructive relationship that is hurting her emotionally, Justin is like a drug,,but she won't break free. They've tried to help, she's refused it, so they have to show "tough love."
Now they have set the ground rules. They can not act like they accept her addiction, which is Justin Bieber. Everything Taylor said is right on. She is doing the right thing by practicing tough love and not acting like she accepts Selena's destructive relationship..


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Twelve Theses on Libertarian Eudaimonism
Obviously each of these following steps would need more explication and defense than I'm giving here. The picture is also a bit oversimplified, since (for one thing) it concerns reciprocal determination between just two virtues rather than among them all. But it will help to fill in a bit the picture I sketched in my earlier post.
1. The prima facie content of benevolence is consequentialist. [Note: for present purposes, the difference principle counts as consequentialist.]
2. The form of consequentialism best answering to benevolence's prima facie content will be some sort of rule-consequentialism (for familiar Humean/Hayekian reasons).
3.The prima facie content of justice is deontological.
4. The form of deontology best answering to justice's prima facie content will be a self-ownership principle.
5. Because property rights, qua rights, are enforceable, and self-ownership rules out any use of force except in defense of self-ownership, the only system of property rights consistent with self-ownership will be one that treats property as an extension of the self (and so the conception of the self, in order to be consistent with self-ownership and property rights, must be construed so as to make this possible).
6. When property is treated as an extension of the self, a principle of self-ownership will render such rights highly stringent.
7. Although benevolence's prima facie content is consequentialist, there are considerations internal to benevolence (e.g., respect) that push it toward reconciliation with deontic justice.
8. Although justice's prima facie content is deontological, there are considerations internal to justice (e.g., fairness) that push it toward reconciliation with consequentialist benevolence.
9. If the gap between the prima facie contents of self-ownership and rule-consequentialism is large and/or likely to be found in normal situations, the extent to which self-ownership needs to be revised will be greater and more structural.
10. If the gap between the prima facie contents of self-ownership and rule-consequentialism is small and/or likely to be found only in abnormal situations, the extent to which self-ownership needs to be revised will be small and mainly a matter of temporary exceptions.
11. We know from libertarian economic and social theory (and in particular, a synthesis of Austrian, agorist, and mutualist theory) that the gap between self-ownership (together with stringent property rights) and most plausible versions of rule-consequentialism [including the difference principle] is small and/or likely to be found only in abnormal situations.
12. Thus the content of justice after conciliation with benevolence will still be essentially a form of self-ownership (together with stringent property rights), albeit with a few small revisions and temporary exceptions.
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You lost me at step 11, where you conflate "believing" with "knowing". It's precisely libertarian economic and social theory that's strongly disputed by non-libertarians. You can't just throw it out there as if it were a set of known facts about the universe. Sorry.
Well, surely it's not just 11. As I said at the top, every single step is controversial and needs plenty of defense. I'm setting out the structure of the theory, not offering a detailed argument.
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Hi Roderick,
My main qualm about the above is what appears to be the attempt to make the notion of self-ownership prior to that of private property. It seems to me that the notion of private property is primary and that self-ownership is just a special instance of private property (private property in one's own body). In connection with this, I would say that private property in one's own body is more important than private property in anything else and violation of it is more serious than violation of other private property rights (I am not sure whether you intend to deny this, but it sounds like it from theses 5 and 6). Another point that may be connected is that how we should carve up currently unowned resources and make them into private property is a matter for agreement and has nothing to do with 'mixing of labour' or any other 'naturalistic' notion. This is not, of course, to suggest that the acquisition of natural resources in times past was achieved through explicit or tacit agreement (and nor is it to suggest that we should try to re-allocate such historical acquisitions on a 'fair' basis – which seems to me to be a nugatory exercise).
Another qualm concerns 'justice as fairness.' But let's leave that for another time.
Aeon Skoble
I like where you're going with this. Be interested to see how you flesh out some of these moves. Are you planning on doing that here, or in an article?
Kevin Vallier
Or a book? (Pretty please.)
Bill Woolsey
What are the modifications?
"harmless" pollution?
publically financed charity?
networks like roads, powerlines, and pipelines?
collateral damage in war?
tax financed national defense?
http://www.facebook.com/people/Rick-DiMare/100000504645309 Rick DiMare
"6. When property is treated as an extension of the self, a principle of self-ownership will render such rights highly stringent."
Yes, and to me this means that self-ownership principles cannot be established politically (as Ron Paulists want to do), and that someone trying to claim Constitutional self-ownership rights in today's socio-economic environment would be akin to living in a shark cage for the claimant, at least for awhile (where banks and tax collectors are the sharks).
I also think maintaining this tension between individualism and collectivism is necessary in order to minimize the negative/disruptive effects of the transition/collapse.
Roderick, I think you and several other authors on this blog owe us an explanation of what you mean by "self-ownership" and "self-ownership" theories.
It is not enough to wave one's hands at Locke and Nozick. They say we own ourselves but have no account of how or why and how that might connect with our ownership of other things. (Yes. Yes. I know. "mixing ones labor" but that's not a theory, it is a metaphor.)
I think we have a right to self-defense. Does that make me a "self-ownership" theorist? And if so, who isn't a self-ownership theorist.
Kevin Vallier
I did a post a week or so ago: http://bleedingheartlibertarians.com/2012/01/self-ownership-theses/
Yes, I had your post in mind as well. I repeat my question. Does believing that we have a right to self-defense make one a "self-ownership" theorist? If so then who isn't a self-ownership theorist? If not then what more is asserted by self-ownership theorists?
Kevin Vallier
I thought I was pretty clear in the post. Self-ownership includes an extensive range of rights over one's body, not merely the right to defend it. Imagine owning a box. You have a limited right to protect it, but you have lots of other rights over it as well (the right to sell, destroy, rent, etc.).
To own a box is to have the right to prevent—forcibly if necessary–
other people from using that box without your permission. But you can give or sell other people that permission temporarily or permanently— that is—you can give, sell or rent the box to others. That's what it is to have ownership in a box and to sell or rent it.If owning a box is having a moral right to box-defense, why isn't owning
yourself is just having the moral right to self-defense .The right of self-defense is the right to prevent—forcibly if necessary— other people from using your body without your permission. But the right
of self-defense is not an obligation. You can give permission for people to use your body, or parts of it, various ways. If I wave my right to protect myself against your taking a lock of my hair— I have given you a lock of my hair (if you want it). If I give you permission to take that lock of hair in return for money, I have sold it to you. If I take your money then insist that I have a right to defend myself against your taking a lock of my hair, I have defrauded you.If we have at least this much moral authority over what others may do to
our bodies then, it seems to me, we own our bodies. Who doesn't believe in "self-ownership" in this sense. What does someone who denies the "self-ownership" thesis claim? That you can't, e.g., give someone else permission to cut your hair?
I've grown to be a bit cautious of P5. It seems that the general thrust of your position implies that we might actually have a difficult case in establishing P5 as a general truth. It may well be the case that the extension of self-ownership right fully and completely into that of general property, and especially alienable property, is not well supported in any strong form.
General question to self-ownership theorists. Wild animals are by definition not owned by anyone else. Are they therefore "self-owners"? If they are, what moral moral significance, if any, do you draw from this?
Kyle Bush
Wild animals don't possess moral or rational agency, so I doubt very many people would attribute them with the power to own anything at all. I think people owe animals moral consideration, as opposed to attributing rights to them.
Yes, exactly! Without adding moral or rational agency to the mere fact of self-ownership, you can't go very far towards deriving libertarian rights. Since no one else owns a wild animal it is plausible to think that they "own" themselves in some sense. They certainly control their bodily functions and are capable of acting purposefully. Rothbard seemed to think that the fact that nobody else could plausibly be thought to own human beings was sufficient to establish that we must be self-owners. This was a weak argument, but even if it established self-ownership, the same argument would apply to wild animals. But we don't attribute to them the same moral status as humans because they lack the additional attributes you cite. In short, self-ownership is a very shallow and incomplete ethical foundation for ascribing moral rights to persons, in my judgment.-
http://www.facebook.com/people/Rick-DiMare/100000504645309 Rick DiMare
Mark, it seems plain to me that wild animals are common property to all of mankind, until we (lawfully) mix our labor with them, after which they become our food or pets.
But they become what we call "property" we can "own," not in a positive or possessive sense of the word, but as something for which we are reasonably certain that the state will exclude other persons from possessing.
So, in other words, there is no positive "ascribing [of] moral rights," but a negative right to have the state forcibly exclude possession by others, whether we're talking about the property rights in wild animals we may acquire or the property we have in our minds, bodies and labor.
I don't believe that what you are saying is inconsistent with my point. We don't do anything to become self-owners, other than perhaps age. On the other hand, wild animals can never become self-owners. But somewhat differently, wild animals are owned in common and are available for appropriation when we, according to you, "mix our labor with them," but people cannot be acquired this way. To explain these differences we need, I think, to invoke something in addition to the fact that humans are "self-owners," and animals are not. Humans have some key attributes that even highly evolved animals do not.
What's the basis for claiming that animals have not moral or rational agency?
Mark, I don't see why one cannot consider animals in general self-owners while still allowing people to own pets, zoos to exist and in general humans to domesticate them for food stocks.
I think the idea that we can have a set of rights that lack any moral conflict is a pipe dream.
When an animal returns a lost wallet with cash in it to its rightful owner, despite the fact that it could use the money, I will concede that they have moral agency. As I said above, I do think that on certain conceptions of self-ownership animals are self-owners, and that this constitutes a problem for those who wish to base human rights on this fact. If we and animals are both self-owners, yet we can use animals as food stocks, but not people, then SO is not the decisive feature that accounts for rights. Finally, I never said we can have "a set of rights that lack any moral conflict," although I admit that I am not certain what you mean here (whose rights are supposed to conflict and in what way?).
I think we're in agreement on the force of self-ownership in terms of resulting rights that can be derived solely from that concept — which might not be a good enough reason to totally ignore the concept; just one that suggests one suggesting where the application has force must be considered.
Perhaps I misunderstood the extent of your statement about the relation between moral agency and rights. Perhaps you could help me understand the role of moral agency and rights for your views — for instances, if a person always acts immorally do they then give up any claims to rights? Or is this the case of if we grant they are capable of moral agency, even if apparently unwilling or able to exercise that agency, they then enjoy rights?
I am happy to comply with the request in your second paragraph, but will note up front that I will not be offering anything new. Indeed, I follow Nozick here in seeing our status as rational (moral) agents as the source of our rights. Very briefly, I believe Nozick offers an argument from the best explanation, which starts with the observation that we are instinctively committed to the (true) belief that it is wrong to treat persons in certain ways. The most plausible explanation for this committment is that we are rational agents (and all other known beings are not). See ASU, particularly 33-44, 48-51. From here, Nozick is able to argue that since our autonomy is the source of our special status, coercion (even to do the right thing) is a morally inappropriate response to our rational agency. So to answer your question, it is the fact that persons are capable of moral agency from which we derive rights.I mention this here only because it directly responds to your question, but I spell this out in much more detail and argumentation in my book Nozick's Libertarian Project: An Elaboration and Defense (Continuum, 2011) or visit my website http://naturalrightslibertarian.com/.
Thomas Hepplewhite
SO is obviously about the right to do anything they wish (with certain side constraints) with their body and this doesn't derive from the fact that humans physically might be able to do anything with their body. And I'm a libertarian who believes that animals do have rights .
Please see my reponses to Kyle and Rick above. I am also a libertarian who believes that animals have at least some rights.
http://www.facebook.com/people/Rod-Engelsman/822499328 Rod Engelsman
I'm probably as bleeding-heart as anyone here, but I don't see animals as having rights. Rather I see humans as having the moral right to use animals as, for example, food stocks, but we, as moral agents, have a corresponding moral obligation to minimize the suffering of the animals we so use.
So I'm not against eating meat, but I AM against cruel animal husbandry practices like factory farms. I'm also in favor of laws prohibiting gratuitous cruelty against animals, both domesticated and wild, and the mistreatment or neglect of pet and food animals.
We have a higher duty toward those animals that we choose to bring into our lives than we do toward wild animals simply because we've chosen to bring them into our moral universe. Essentially, we have an obligation to treat our pets similarly to the way we treat our children and for largely the same reasons.
Well, if you believe the (very strong) claim that "we have an obligation to treat our pets similarly to the way we treat our children and for largely the same reasons," then I don't see how you can deny that at least pets have rights. If pets don't have rights, then from what source arises our obligation to treat them "like children?" Of course, one can affirm, as I do, that animals have certain rights, yet deny that such rights have the same stringency as human rights. For what its worth, I deny that pets have rights to welfare of the same stringency as our children's rights (said as both a father of two, and owner of two cats and one dog).
http://www.facebook.com/people/Rod-Engelsman/822499328 Rod Engelsman
You're correct; that statement was too strong. Although I still believe that the nature of one's relationship with one's children and one's pets is similar. Having children and keeping pets are both voluntary acts (well, usually, anyway) that once embarked upon entail certain obligations.
I think in the case of animals it falls along the lines of not causing gratuitous or needless suffering in an entity capable of experiencing such.
I guess it's something I'm not entirely settled on. For instance, I don't see a particular moral difficulty with hunting animals for food. But I'm less certain about trophy hunting purely for pleasure. It seems like insufficient justification for ending the existence of a (possibly) sentient or semi-sentient (whatever that may mean) being. Asking whether that entails animals having "rights" may just be semantics. I prefer to reserve the term to apply to indisputably moral actors.
http://www.facebook.com/people/Rick-DiMare/100000504645309 Rick DiMare
"I think in the case of animals it falls along the lines of not causing gratuitous or needless suffering in an entity capable of experiencing such."
Rod, I might be totally off here, but from a Lockean viewpoint (again, my view of it), we have no right to cause waste or damage to property that is not ours, i.e., damage, suffering or waste to property that is "common to all mankind."
http://www.facebook.com/people/Rod-Engelsman/822499328 Rod Engelsman
That's another aspect of it, but I don't see how it addresses the question Mark and I were discussing. For instance, how is my pet cat "common to all mankind"?
But it WOULD certainly pertain to environmental issues like pollution, urban sprawl, and anthropogenic climate change.
http://www.facebook.com/people/Rick-DiMare/100000504645309 Rick DiMare
If the cat has lawfully become your pet, it is no longer common property. Some where along the line you've mixed your labor with it to make it yours.
But even when it was common property you had no more right to abuse it than you would have the right to spray paint street signs, pollute, waste or damage other public property, cause "tragedy of the commons," etc.
So, if I'm understanding your question accurately, you don't acquire a right to abuse or cause suffering to the animal after it has been taken from the commons, or just because it was taken from the commons.
Even if a pet were to become one's food, there's still a duty to minimize the animal's suffering.
No disagreement here. We can leave until another time the question of the connection, if any, between duties and rights.
Kyle Bush
What about claims on a persons time or action? There are plenty of people who assert some authority to command others in one way or another. In my mind, subscribing to a principle of self ownership would preclude making such claims except when attempting to obtain restitution for a rights violation.
Others can get this sort of authority over your actions when you promise or contract to perform those actions. When you make such a bargain you are giving the other person permission to force you to do those actions or extract compensation from you if you fail to perform them. You have given up some your rights against forceful interference– you have bartered away some of your right to self defense.As I observed above
a) having the right to sell/rents parts yourself (or your labor) by promising/contracting/granting them to others must be part of anyone's conception of self ownership.
b) since we all believe we have these rights (don't we?) , we are all "self-ownership theorists".I have more to say on this here : http://tomkow.typepad.com/tomkowcom/2010/08/the-retributive-theory-of-propety.html
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This is not a challenge, just a question. I am wondering how you would characterize benevolence such that consequentialism provides the best prima facie account of its content. Is it ok if this turns out to be trivially true or would you like it to be a substantive claim? I half expected you to say that consequentialism provides the best prima facie account of the content of morality (except for justice) rather than benevolence. Do you see an important distinction between that way of putting things and your way?
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Nothing To Include LyricsArtist: Funker VogtAlbum: Maschine Zeit Calcuating and computing Reading, memorizing Talking and apologizing 3D and efficient Appraising this attitude Four steps, comprehend? Here is nothing to include Brain dead, no excuse Leaving a useless shell Control of the system Only with your mind chorus: Acting without moving Illustrating without speaking Turning into, transforming Your body into mind
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If you see a doctor today, go ahead and shake his/her hand because today is National Doctor's Day. Sheridan Memorial Hospital is celebrating today, March 30, says Cecil Pattison, community relations director at Sheridan Memorial.
At last week's Sheridan County Commissioners meeting, the results of the courthouse transportation analysis that was conducted by the consulting firm of Fehr and Peers out of Colorado were released.
Long time Sheridan Memorial Hospital Board member Bill Huppert announced his resignation this week at the monthly board meeting. Huppert explains that his resignation came because of a job promotion.
The Board of Trustees for the Johnson County Healthcare Center heard a report from Hospital Asdministrator Sandy Ward concerning future county valuation and how that may determine whether or not to continue with the next phase of construction.
The Johnson County Planning Office has hired a new GIS/Planner after former Assistant Planner Jerry Osborn retired in December.
Coming up Wednesday, April 4, the University of Wyoming's Johnson County Extension Office will present a Garden Workshop for green thumbs in the area to learn more about gardening.
The Johnson County Library's LEGOs At The Library 2012 was another success, according to Steve Rzasa with the library, who said this year's contest drew the same number of contestants as last year, just a more diverse group.
Statewide partners against child abuse planted hundreds of children's blue and sliver pinwheels on the lawn of the Wyoming Capital this week to call attention to the importance of prevention and intervention during April, which is child abuse prevention month in Wyoming.
Thursday night the YMCA gym was transformed into a gourmet soup extravaganza. It was Volunteers of America's 4th annual "Filling an Empty Bowl" fundraiser to benefit Sheridan's Community Shelter.
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The RepRap 3D printer that can reproduce itself, as well as useful 3D plastic objects! Read more
The RepRap 3D printer that can reproduce itself, as well as useful 3D plastic objects!
About this project
What is the RepRap Project? It's about making self-replicating machines, and making them freely available for the benefit of everyone. The benefits come from the useful, everyday items that the Reprap can make besides its own parts.
Check out this video from the founder of the Reprap Project, be advised it's kinda long.- (www.youtube.com/watch... )
How does the Reprap machine work? It's a 3D printer, that is to say a computer controlled machine that can draw a highly intricate pattern and move up a fraction of a millimeter and draw another pattern. In this case instead of dispensing ink onto the paper, it uses a plastic extruder (think hot glue gun) into a flat surface until a very detailed 3D object is created. It is a critical machine in any manufacturing factory, or research and development lab.
Here is an excellent video from the Reprap founders showing how the Mendel Reprap works, worth the watch!-(www.youtube.com/watch...) What is the point? The Reprap Project (www.reprap.org) envisions that 3D printing will be found in every home in the future. And will change the way goods are made. Instead of running to the shop every time you need a little trinket for one thing or another, you could likely make it at home and for less cost. For most homes, this is still a dream but with the help of the developer community the printer is constantly undergoing an evolution and learning how to print faster more precisely and with new materials. One day the machine will be able to print 100% of all its parts.
How does this Kickstarter project fall in with the Reprap Project? Well, anyone that has a Reprap can make the parts for another. Right now only a few dozen people around the world are currently participating in the project the way it was intended. I seek to help the Reprap project by building my Reprap quickly and begin printing more parts for others to build their own machine.
The parts I print will be sold or bartered for LITTLE TO NO PROFIT. Why would I do that? Because of the symbiotic relationship between the builder and machine allows me to gain from the OTHER objects it prints. The useful household items I use everyday. That is how the project is supposed to work, not by making money on the Reprap's parts.
The goal of this project is to flood the market with affordable, high quality Reprap parts forcing other sellers to compete in the free market and keep the Reprap Project affordable for everyone.
The Funds Will be used to build a RepRap 3D printer and make the technology available to everyone in the community. As well as allowing inventors, artists and students to have a 3D printer available to help them in fulfilling their project needs.
The Rewards
(On 1/31/11 I've updated the perks and spilt each tier into "Helper" for those that like the project and just want to help out a bit, and "Builder" for those brave souls that are ready to build their own Reprap.)
I've listed examples of the objects the Reprap can print below. If you find something else you like on www.thingiverse.com let me know and we will discuss adding it as a reward. However, I'd prefer to make something that has been shown to print well before.
All rewards will be fulfilled as quickly as possible. Considering the huge technical curve of this project it may take some time to print quality parts. Small Owl headphone wrapper- http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:5595 Access card holder- http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:5572 Carabineer- http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:5689 Triangle Pendant- http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:5663 2D Spring Generator- http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:5713 Bag clip- http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:5615 Reuleaux Triangle- http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:5456 Pill box insert for Altoids tins- http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:5422 Mustache Ring- http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:5123 Rubber-Band Bow and Arrow- http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:4691 Companion Cube- http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:1622 Medium 3D Knot- http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:5506 Vica Illusion Sculpture- http://www.thingiverse.com/derivative:5915 Ceiling Cat!- http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:5522 Iphone 4 case- http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:5473 Actually working wearable glasses- http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:5544 Air gap leak preventer- http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:5446 Wall outlet cell phone holder- http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:5379 Do-Nothing Machine- http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:5103 Matchbox Puzzle Box- http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:4935 A-Mazing Box- http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:1481 Whistle- http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:1046 Printable Geneva Wheel- http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:1642 Large Four Pack bottle carrier- http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:5400 OUTER Twisted Triangle- http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:4989 Poker Chips(Full Set)- http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:4698 Snap-together polyhedron vertices- http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:4893 Gothic Cathedral Play Set- http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:2030
Check out some of the things you can print. (Images from Thingiverse.com and it's blog)
Have a question? If the info above doesn't help, you can ask the project creator directly.
Pledge $1 or more
5 backers
HELPER KIT #1-Behind the scenes access to the project updates. AND direct contact with me if you decide later that you want the Prusa Mendel printed parts, I'll make them for you AT COST.
(This reward carries on into all the higher rewards as well.)
Pledge $5 or more
1 backer
HELPER KIT #2- 1 Coin-op Bottle Opener http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:1842
Pledge $5 or more
2 backers
One-stop-shop for the casual backer.-
If you don't want to build a Reprap right away but would like to contribute and receive a souvenir, this level is for you. Just decide what size and how many objects you want from thingiverse.com and add them up using the prices listed below. Pledge that amount and you are set!
$5= 1 small item
$7= 1 medium item
$9= 1 large item
Pledge for the total cost of all the items you want. IE if you want 1 of each size. 5+7+9=$21 total pledge.
I will ask which items you want in a survey when this project ends or you can send me a message.
Pledge $10 or more
6 backers All gone!
1 small object plus a bottle opener
Pledge $15 or more
6 backers All gone!
BUILDER KIT #1- A Wades Extruder parts printed in ABS. This part will get you started in building your own Reprap! http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:1794
Pledge $25 or more
2 backers All gone!
HELPER KIT #5- 2 small and 2 medium objects plus a bottle opener
Pledge $50 or more
10 backers Limited (10 left of 20)
BUILDER KIT #2- A full set of Huxley printed parts. Huxley is smaller model than Mendel but can still print the Mendel parts. http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:4986
Pledge $100 or more
6 backers Limited (14 left of 20)
BUILDER KIT #3-Mendel or Prusa Mendel Printed Parts
Pledge $250 or more
6 backers All gone!
BUILDER KIT #4- All the Prusa Mendel printed parts AND all the hardware you need to build your own. (No electronics) http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:4148
Pledge $900 or more
1 backer All gone!
SUPER BUILDER KIT!- A full Mendel Reprap kit, printed parts, hardware, electronics. Some assembly required. I will build this one for you, test it, and ship (free) it with minimal disassembly. This reward might cut into my own wallet but I'm excited to help a new builder get started.
Funding period
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Events are held on the last Wednesday of the month, March - October The Horse and Trap 3 Enfield Street Mount Eden, Auckland Phone: 09 630 3055 |
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September 24, 2014
Mathematics and Biology - are they really such strange companions?
Prof James Sneyd
Dept of Mathematics U of Auckland James Sneyd is used to getting confused looks from people – all he has to do is tell them he does "Mathematical Biology". Aren't those completely opposite areas? Well, James says, this might be a popular view, but it's simply not true. For well over 300 years mathematicians have been deeply interested in biological questions (in musical questions too, another interest of James'), and some of the greatest scientific minds of the past centuries have worked right in that fuzzy area that sits squarely between Math, Physics and Biology. The modern word is "interdisciplinary", and that is the space where James works. It's not Math, it's not Biology, it's Math Biology, and it's the wave of the future.
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August 27, 2014
Statistics in the media:
Prof Thomas Lumley
Dept of Biostatistics U of Auckland Journalists are trained to be suspicious and questioning when people try to feed them stories. They typically aren't trained on statistics, which makes dodgy numbers a good strategy for getting stuff into print. The main issues that we target in StatsChat are bogus polls, failure to divide one number by another, and lack of context, and I will give some examples. Things do seem to be improving, at least in the 'news' parts of the newspapers.
Thomas Lumley is Professor of Biostatistics at the University of Auckland, and a major contributor to the StatsChat blog. He works on genetics, semiparametric statistics, statistical computing, and the statistical problems encountered by his co-workers in heart disease epidemiology. July 30, 2014 Get off the Grass: Kickstarting NZ's Innovation Economy
Prof Shaun Hendy
Dept of Physics, U of Auckland Director, Te Punaha Matatini New Zealanders work harder and earn less than most other people in the developed world. In their book "Get off the Grass", Shaun Hendy and the late Sir Paul Callaghan argued that if New Zealand is to grow its economy more rapidly it must build nationwide communities of innovators, entrepreneurs and businesses. It must "get off the grass" and diversify its economy beyond the primary sector. But can New Zealand really learn to innovate like a city of four million people? Can we learn to live off knowledge rather than nature? Join Shaun Hendy to hear how we can do just that.
Professor Shaun Hendy FRSNZ is Director of Te Pūnaha Matatini, a Centre of Research Excellence that studies complex systems, and a physicist at the University of Auckland. In 2013 he was awarded the Royal Society's Callaghan Medal and the Prime Minister's Science Media Communication Prize for his contributions to communicating science. June 25, 2014 Ocean Acidification: Threats and Challenges
Dr Todd Capson
Science and Policy Advisor to the Global Oceans Health Program, Sustainable Fisheries Partnership Just when you thought the climate change threat couldn't get any bigger…it turns out that more carbon dioxide in the atmosphere means more carbon dioxide dissolved in the world's oceans – which makes the seawater more acidic. That's a very bad thing if you're a marine organism that can't tolerate a change in acidity, or a nation like New Zealand that draws significant economic and cultural value from a healthy sea. When the problem is this big, what can anyone do? Join Dr Todd Capson, chemist, biochemist and Science and Policy Advisor to the Sustainable Fisheries Partnership, to hear how bilateral collaboration between the United States and New Zealand is powering efforts to address acidification in the Pacific and Southern oceans. DNA sequencing: Everything you want to know about yourself, but were afraid to ask
A/Prof Cristin Print, University of Auckland
and Joint Director, New Zealand Bioinformatics Institute
What do you have in your genes? Would knowing your DNA sequence help you, or could it open a nasty can of worms? Is your DNA yours to sequence anyway, or does it also belong to your parents and children? The first human genome sequenced cost US$ 3 billion and took 13 years. By the end of this year scientists may be able to sequence your genome for as little as US$ 2,000 in 2-3 days. Join medical genomic researcher, Cristin Print to see what a genome sequence really looks like. Discuss the excitement of this world-changing technology and also the ethical considerations and risks.
March 26, 2014 Big News About The Big Bang
Richard Easther, University of AucklandCosmology was front page news all over the world this month -- "Space Ripples Reveal Big Bang's Smoking Gun" said the New York Times (Front page, above the fold). Come and ask Prof. Richard Easther, a theoretical cosmologist at the U of Auckland, what this means, what happens now, and what we are doing about it in New Zealand. October 30, 2013
The empowered energy consumer of the future – choice or confusion?
Nirmal Nair, Energy Theme Leader, Faculty of Engineering, University of Auckland
The traditional roles of energy producer and energy consumer are beginning to change worldwide. "Smart Grid" technology, together with affordable energy generation and storage options, presents consumers with new opportunities to break their dependence on energy producers and distributors – but only if they can master the nuances of generation, storage, home energy management, electric vehicle charging, grid friendly device control, and so on. Just what does the future look like for a choice empowered consumer? Dr. Nirmal Nair, a power systems engineer by training, leads the Energy research theme at the University of Auckland's Faculty of Engineering and directs the Power Systems Group which contributes to research, advice and advocacy on New Zealand's power systems and energy sustainability. His research interests include blackouts, electricity markets, smart grids, renewable energy integration and energy policy. September 25, 2013
Noses, Buses and a Sailor's Foot – new ways to engage with Museum and Art Gallery collections Simon Gould, curator Staying relevant is no simple matter for museums, collections and galleries these days. Even a knockout collection displayed and interpreted with traditional methods doesn't seem to cut it any more. But if the exhibition is filled with touchscreens and Twitter channels, it's easy to ignore the objects themselves! Just what sort of experience do we want to have when we visit a Museum, anyway? Curator Simon Gould explores some exciting possibilities to make the objects, ideas and people that surround every collection more dynamic, participatory and relevant to new as well as existing audiences - just so long as the audience is willing to put a little work in... Simon Gould has won several awards for his work at University College London, where he was Contemporary Projects Curator for UCL's Museums and Collections between 2008-2011. A natural fan of all things interdisciplinary, Simon helped to pioneer exciting new ways for the museums to reinterpret their collections, engage different audiences and generally to work in new and genuinely innovative ways. August 28, 2013
Championing the Hauraki Gulf Tim Higham, Manager, Hauraki Gulf Forum The productive waters and islands network of the Hauraki Gulf Marine Park are surrounded by a catchment of 1 million people, creating conservation success stories and challenges for resource managers. Join Hauraki Gulf Forum manager Tim Higham to discuss the significance of the Hauraki Gulf and the need for better, more integrated management. Can we protect the ecological diversity of the gulf when it also holds NZ's largest commercial port? Will restrictions on recreational activities and limits in the gulf prioritize economic interests over every day people? What kind of balance can we hope to achieve? July 31, 2013 New Zealand at the Large Hadron Collider: What have we learned and where are we going? The University of Auckland
Department of Physics
New Zealand is an active participant in the research at the CERN laboratory in Geneva, Switzerland, on the world's largest particle and nuclear physics experiments. In 2010 the Large Hadron Collider began its main physics programme of smashing together protons in search of new particles and forces in the universe. What do we know now about our universe that we did not know in the pre-LHC era? What questions remain unanswered, and can we ever hope to answer them? We will discuss Hadrons-to-Higgs particles, and Z bosons-to-Zeptospace. The LHC is currently in Long Shutdown #1 until January 2015 for upgrades and maintenance of both the accelerator and the huge particle detectors. June 26, 2013 Waiter! There's nanotechnology in my soup!
with Dr Michelle Dickinson, Senior Lecturer
University of Auckland
Department of Chemical and Materials Engineering
Nanotechnology seems to be sneaking into everything around us. We're told it's going to make the world a better place, but how much do we know about the use of nanotechnology in our day to day lives - should we be worried about the use of nanotechnology in our food, for instance? Michelle will uncover some of the mystery behind this new science called nanotechnology, and how much of what sounds like science fiction may already be science fact. Michelle Dickinson is a nanotechnologist who has recently moved from a consulting position in industry to the Department of Chemical and Materials Engineering at the University of Auckland. Her work involves the use of nanotechnology in medical and technology research. Michelle is also a science advisor for TV3 and a contributor to Green Ideas Magazine. Her passion is to encourage environmentally sustainable living through engineering design – when she is not in her research lab you can catch her cycling around the city, or tending to her permaculture garden. May 29, 2013 April 24, 2013 March 27, 2013