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Security guru Joel Snyder from Opus One recently starred as the guest of a live Network World chat where he discussed the state of network access control. Snyder says that those who are anti-NAC simply don't understand the technology. He answered a slew of technical questions from attendees including why ACLs are better than VLANs, the dirty dark corner of NAC (management) and why some anti-NAC experts have got it all wrong.
Security guru Joel Snyder from Opus One recently starred as the guest of a live Network World chat where he discussed the state of network access control. Snyder says that Microsoft is emerging as one of the clear winners of NAC, but that Microsoft's technology is a foundation from which to build, not an end-all. He also says that those who are anti-NAC simply don't understand the technology. He answered a slew of technical questions from attendees including why ACLs are better than VLANs, the dirty dark corner of NAC (management) and the how and why of 802.1X. What follows is a full transcript.
Moderator-Keith: Please welcome security guru Joel Snyder, a senior partner with consulting firm Opus One from Tucson, Ariz., and member of the Network World Lab Alliance. Today's chat will focus on the facts and fictions about NAC, answering questions about what NAC products can and cannot do, including integration with wireless, technology shortcomings, plug-ins and more.
Joel_Snyder: Keith, it's great to be here!
Moderator-Julie: While waiting for Joel to type up answers to the first questions rolling in, here's a pre-submitted question: You just got back from Interop Labs with a lot of NAC testing. What are the most interesting things you learned?
Joel_Snyder: Thanks for asking! I'll put in a pitch for the Interop Labs NAC resource Web site (http://www.opus1.com/nac/). That has a bunch of our white papers (about 13 of them), all of our device configurations, classes on NAC, and basically about 90 MB of stuff that we've gathered and learned about NAC. The really interesting thing we noticed is that things are finally beginning to converge. We ran a nice little graphic (click on the "Click to see" diagram) in NWW last week talking about the family trees, and the key is that people seem to be willing to let Microsoft take a leading role in NAC. So we really focused on that: what comes built-in with XP SP3 and Vista? And then how do you extend things if you don't like what's built-in? We definitely had other policy decision points besides MS NPS---Cisco, Avenda Systems, Juniper, and Radiator, plus FreeRADIUS sort-of. Even on the client side, there are interesting things. For example, you can add more system health agents/verifiers, or you can go for other supplicants, or you can do non-Windows or pre-XPSP3 operating systems, or you can worry about other devices, like cameras and VoIP phones and printers. What we ended up with was about a dozen demonstrations, all showing what you need for a complete NAC solution. And it really focused on "let's start with Microsoft and work out from there." Much more satisfying than trying to have three silos like we've done in the past that don't work together. [Editor's note: Also check out Network World's NAC Buyer's Guide which compares dozens of NAC products.]
Brian: I've been asked to investigate .1x for port-based authentication. I have reservations recommending this for production use because of the mixed clients on our 1,000-node LAN (Macs running 10.4 and 10.5, PCs with Windows 95 to Vista). I think support would turn into a nightmare, plus I don't know of anyone using .1x. What are your thoughts?
Joel_Snyder: I hear you. 802.1X is outstanding technology, but you do have to have client support. Macs 10.4/10.5 are no problem - it's all built-in. For Windows, though, you're going to be restricted to Win 2000 SP3 and later. Of course, the Juniper guys are going to say you should go with Odyssey, which has a unified experience and supports earlier Windows versions and is great stuff and I can vote for that as well. Support nightmare? Hard to say. I'm of the belief that once you work through the initial problems, you end up having lower support calls. It's going to depend on what your environment is. If you're talking an education market, that's one thing. If you're talking an enterprise, I think it's manageable.
By the way, it's 802.1X, not 802.1x. Common mistake but if you use the upper-case version you'll have the l33t privilege of correcting some of your vendors, too.
fyatim: We have seen some consolidation in the NAC space. Can you provide an update on the NAC market and where it's heading?
Joel_Snyder: Towards Microsoft, for sure. The key is that the desktop is EVERYTHING and Microsoft is making the right noises about standards and openness and making things work in the big picture. So we have already seen Microsoft and the Trusted Computing Group (TCG) get together, and I think it's only a matter of time before we also see the other vendors like Cisco at least have a good accommodation of the Microsoft Network Access Protection (NAP) framework.
RalphSam2: I work for a large company. We have about 30K employees in 500 sites across North America. Management wants to see centralized NAC. All product evaluations are going badly. What is good for large site (more than 1,000 people) is not good for small sites (less than 10). What should we do?
Joel_Snyder: Well, boy, that's a softball. Of course, you should hire Opus One to help :-) But really, I think that you need to step back and figure out what it is that you care about MOST in your NAC deployment. Are you doing this for access control? For endpoint security? You have to narrow down what it is you want and then you can put together a solution that will work based on your requirements. I agree that there is no single universal answer, but I think that if designed correctly, you can do it. What we saw at Interop was the ability to move from VLANs (which definitely won't work at small sites) up to Access Control Lists (ACLs), which work and scale beautifully. If you haven't gone down that path, I'd suggest thinking in those terms. A lot of little guys are fixated on VLANs, which just don't scale.
shelly: Can you say more about why you think ACLs are better/more scalable than VLANs for network access control? It seems to me that ACLs can get very large if your network isn't easily summarizable. How do you choose between them?
Joel_Snyder: Good question and thanks! The deal with VLANs that I don't like is that we have already burned them in most networks. We're using them for other things, and making changes to the VLAN infrastructure is hard unless you have a green-field network, which no one does. However, with ACLs, you can push onto the EXISTING VLAN structure and not have to screw with it. This also solves the hand-waving problem of getting people to jump around VLANs as they go into and out of quarantine, which (as a Mac user) I really feel for. Very true that the ACLs can get ugly, but I am thinking that you aren't going for total control at the port level, but broad swaths of control. If you want LOTS of ACLs, then you need to go with specialized hardware: Consentry, Nevis, and I think that HP is talking that talk as well. I'm really bullish on ACLs now that Interop's Labs helped prove that they work. We're talking about anterior cruciate ligaments here, right?
Tom2342: Since the NAP client from Microsoft alone doesn't offer anywhere near the amount of endpoint data that some other vendors' NAC clients offer, why would you want to bother with it at all?
Joel_Snyder: Dude. The NAP client is just a base. You don't just do everything that Microsoft says, right? They provide a great base and you build on top of that to meet your needs. If you're a small site, you stick with them. but if you have Symantec, then you layer their SEP11 on top of that using the NAP SHA/SHV. If you have McAfee, same deal. Sophos, same deal. We tested Avenda and Blue Ridge as well in the labs, all sitting on top of NAP. The reason you START with Microsoft is that they know more about their own O/S than anyone else, so that is going to maximize the ability to interoperate. And then you take your preferred end-point security partner and put it on top using the SHA/SHV model. It is totally clean and totally extensible.
Moderator-Julie Pre-submitted question: TCG/TNC just announced IF-MAP What's that all about and what do you think of it? [Editor's note: TCG's NAC scheme is called Trusted Network Connect (TNC)].
Joel_Snyder: IF-MAP is very cool. We were lucky because TCG gave us advance access under NDA and we were able to get a white paper out on it at the same instant that it was announced. Talk about a scoop! Anyway, IF-MAP is all about having a structured way to store, correlate, and retrieve identity, access control, and security posture information about users and devices on a network. The cool thing about IF-MAP is that it's not just for NAC, although that's a first step. It's a way to finally bring together a whole world of policy and status information that just has been totally proprietary or even un-doable in the past.
I am totally stoked about IF-MAP because I think that this has been one of the main things missing from standards-based NAC and it closes a huge hole. I hope that we get great adoption. The TNC guys seem to have about a half-dozen vendors all already including IF-MAP in their products that they were demoing in their booth at Interop. Aruba, ArcSight, Juniper, Lumeta, nSolutions, Infoblox were all doing the demos.
RandyJ: I am looking to implement NAC next year on our campus. We are a wireless campus with some wired. I have talked to a lot of different vendors. What are the top two companies you would recommend, and why?
Joel_Snyder: Well, it depends, which one is buying you lunch? Honestly, though, I can't answer that very easily without knowing exactly what you're trying to accomplish. The obvious answer is Bradford, because they understand and do education better than anyone else (in my testing, anyway). They are built around education issues, so that's going to be well suited. From there, it's hard to say. I'd look to see what other partners you have good relationships with and see if they can meet your needs. In other words, if you're an Enterasys shop, go talk to them. Foundry, etc.
Leo: Can you comment on the relationship between Microsoft and Cisco on NAC now and project it in the future? Truly cooperative and division of labor? Or collision ahead?
Joel_Snyder: Hard to say. There are a lot of personalities involved. I'd say that right now we've got two titans who are hard-pressed to cooperate trying to figure out a modus vivendi. Even if there is a lot of joy together, it is inevitable that Microsoft and Cisco will have different interests in the long run. I don't see a big collision, because Microsoft's primary interest is in the desktop and Cisco has no intention of competing there. Things like NPS might go by the wayside as Cisco readies new versions of their NAC management solution and completely re-architects ACS and the CCA stuff. What I personally see is that Cisco owns 74% of the switch market and Microsoft owns 95% (or more) of the desktop market and that's not going to change too much in the long run. So I would look to Cisco for leadership in the areas that they are strong: switching, wiring closets, etc., and Microsoft for leadership in the areas that they are absolutely top in: desktop. Having either cross into the other's territory seems like danger.
WillBean11: The title of the chat is 'fact and fiction,' so what are some of the 'fictions' surrounding NAC that we should be aware of?
Joel_Snyder: Oh, good question. What are the top myths about NAC? How about that it's all about end-point security? We have some luminaries on our own staff who seem confused about that. NAC is about ACCESS CONTROL and NETWORKs, and USER FOCUS. That's the biggest confusion. Another one: that a NAC product solves your needs. I haven't seen a network larger than 100 devices where a single vendor solution answered all problems. Let me see if I can think up more as we go along...
Moderator-Julie: I think you are referring to Rich Stiennon in his Stiennon on Security blog. He called it: "Don't even bother investing in Network Admission Control" where he did a big NAC attack. Got any response?
Joel_Snyder: I think that Rich is a pretty bright guy, but a lot of his thinking about NAC is colored by a bit of tunnel-vision about what NAC is good for. He's really focusing on the end-point security stuff, and his comments in that area are pretty solid. But he's very lost when it comes to the big picture, because he's not thinking of NAC except through this very narrow view. If you really step back and understand what NAC is all about, then you see that Rich is focusing on about 1/4 of the solution. I don't think that he's intentionally misleading anyone; he just has a definition of NAC which is really restrictive and not at all in concert with what the rest of the NAC world believes in.
Ricky: What are your suggestions for handling non-Windows machines, or "non-OS" devices altogether - e.g. IP phones, cameras, medical devices, etc.?
Joel_Snyder: MAC auth bypass is the strongest approach for non-OS devices. You use that with a nice strong access control (i.e., phones can only act like phones because there's an ACL and a firewall keeping them in) and maybe back it up with a device profiler like a Great Bay box. For non-Windows, harder question. Big issue here is that you have to say what you think is important about your NAC deployment. Are you all about end-point security? If so, what does that mean for a Mac? Or if it's all about access control, then focus on 802.1X for those puppies. I wouldn't do Mac Auth Bypass for OSes that can do 802.1X or which have browsers. I'd do 802.1X or dump them in a captive portal if you want to abuse them a lot.
Moderator-Keith: Abuse the "end users," not the devices, right? :-)
Joel_Snyder: Right. Make 'em hit a captive portal every time they sit down. That's abuse, in my book.
Mash: How do you make sure, that MAC-based auth for IP-phones and such, doesn't become your hacker's favorite security-hole in NAC-networks? Just spoof the MAC with the MAC of a Cisco or Nortel IP-phone, and you're in, right?
Joel_Snyder: Well, you better not be "in." Right? You have to be controlled when you're in, so if you are saying you're a phone, then you better be ACLed or VLANed or whatever so that you can only ACT like a phone. If you just dump the phone on the network with full access privileges then you're not getting the point of NAC, the ACCESS CONTROL part. Sorry for the caps. Anyway, yes, then the hacker can still wander around your VOIP network with whatever ports and protocols you've allowed her, but you deal with that by using IF-MAP (in the future) or something like a Great Bay box (today) and let behavior-based information modify your policy decision.
RonM20747: We're looking at implementing NAC within the next year. We've got users that come in via a VPN and use RDP to get to their desktops. What is the recommended way to handle that with NAC?
Joel_Snyder: It depends on the firewall. If you are firewalling down so that they ONLY have RDP then there's not a lot of issue involved with end-point health. Sure, someone could be screen scraping on the RDP on the client and you might not know about it, but that's a pretty unusual situation. I would say that if you have already gone Citrix-y or RDP and the desktop is really what matters, then just do a normal wired NAC on the "end" desktop (the one that they're RDPing to) and don't worry so much about the end user on the VPN. You're already doing authentication and firewall on them. What harm can they "really" do that's worth the effort of NAC? Alternatively: go with SSL VPN and use one of the end-point host checkers that are in all the SSL VPN products. That gives you user-focused access controls and a health check, which is the essence of NAC By the way, I wrote a story on that saying that SSL VPN is the same as NAC.
Mash: TNC seems to have been going in the right direction for quite a while. And they are way ahead of the IETF taskforce. Microsoft also seems to be very open to "the TNC way." But Cisco keeps saying their mantra, that "we work with NAC, where it belongs, in IETF", which seems to be just an excuse for selling proprietary for now. What's happening in the IETF taskforce? When can we expect to see some actual standards from them? Will they be adopted by the industry? And will it turn out to be TNC with an IETF standard name?
Joel_Snyder: I have to say that I'm very depressed about the whole IETF thing. I had a long argument about this with Jim Martin, an old IETF stalwart. The problem is that the IETF is focusing on what has already been done by TNC and is not breaking new ground in areas that TNC has not covered. So what we're ending up with is a re-thinking of the same protocols by essentially the same guys which seems to me to be a huge waste of time. I don't know about Cisco's thinking here, but we're ending up with the same darn protocols in IETF and TNC. But what we need is the IETF guys to do a big-picture thing, like they did with IPSEC in RFC2401. That would be cool. But I am not holding out hope. I'm just depressed about it. Sigh.
shelly: Are there any good network management tools that you recommend for monitoring and troubleshooting 802.1X-based NAC deployments?
Joel_Snyder: Talk about a dark and dusty corner of NAC. You have found one of the ugliest ones. Russ Rice was hitting me on that at NAC Day [at Interop], talking about troubleshooting as the last frontier. Short answer: no good answer. Long answer. Look at tools like Splunk to get all your logs together and really searchable. I don't think that SIMs are the answer here because they're not about debugging, so you want some huge log aggregator that can do structured searches.
Moderator-Julie Pre-submitted question: Hi. We've looked at several NAC products, One in particular, Identity Driven Manager by HP, for the most part suites our needs. One problem however we come across is that enabling RADIUS authentication on our edge switches inhibits clients to check in with PXE servers. We use PXE on all our machines for on-the-fly rebuilds. While I realize this is a flaw within RADIUS authentication on a switch I really want to know what other products could help us address this problem? Thanks, Mark.
Joel_Snyder: PXE is one of the dark corners of NAC, so I understand where you're coming from. The situation with PXE is that you have a device which wants to get on the network, but it has nothing but a MAC address. Also, it has a pretty tight DHCP timer and if you don't get it on the network fast, then you've got a problem and it'll fail over. There are two approaches you can take here. First is that you can use Guest VLAN and second is that you can use MAC Authentication Bypass.
I don't know as one or the other is "better" -- it sounds like you may want to see which one your switches are compatible with. However, either can be used to resolve the PXE question. In our lab, we use MAC Auth Bypass because we have to know the MAC address ANYWAY to get it into the PXE server, so we just drop that into the RADIUS database and point those users over to a special PXE VLAN. You don't have to be that specialized if you don't want. You could just stick them in the same VLAN as other MAB devices (printers, for example). It would depend on how strict you are and what you're doing for MAB in other areas.
WillBean11: This may be unrelated to NAC, but I was wondering what Joel's thoughts were on IPv6 and the latest "we're doomed" chants going around. Is the sky falling on IPv4 or not?
Joel_Snyder: The sky is falling, indeed. I'm on some mailing lists out of ARIN where there's a lot of argument on that, but no one is disputing that IPv4 is running out of space. The question is where and what we're going to do about it when it happens. I predict rioting in the streets and widespread violence. That, plus a lot of IP address theft. Obviously, we're going to be able to put this off a long time, but honestly we are running out of addressable Internet space with all the devices going up nowadays, and NAT is not going to solve it forever. So you can either figure out how you're going to solve it a couple of years ahead of everyone else, or you can wait until your ISP suddenly says "No, no more addresses available," and then panic. I'm in favor of the panic approach, but there are those who want to plan ahead and be reasonable and well thought out.
WillBean11: So you don't buy the argument that we have plenty of addresses and it's just the ISPs that are hoarding them? (that's one theory I've heard)
Joel_Snyder: I don't buy it. I was helping a client with a crisis last weekend that could have been solved by another /29 of space (Nothing in the big picture) and the ISP just said, "No deal. You can't have it." They got a new ISP with more space, but they're running out too. Yes, there is some slop and wastage and unused addresses (look at Interop's 45/8!) but there is an end. 32-bits is not enough for a world with 6+ billion people and 12+ billion cell phones and Wiis and whatever.
Moderator-Julie Pre-submitted question: Hello Joel, it Eric from La Reunion. Have you tested the HP NAC/IDM solution? Best regards, Eric
Joel_Snyder: I have not had an opportunity to test the IDM stuff. I have had a couple of briefings on it, and certainly the PowerPoint is impressive. The whole idea of Identity Driven Manager (IDM) is that you can add policies to your NAP NPS server. That, to me, is totally kick-ass. NPS is a fine little framework, but as soon as you try and do anything exciting with it in terms of access controls, then you run into a brick wall. NPS is more focused on the remediation/end-point compliance lifecycle.
So that's why IDM is slick - it (at least in the PowerPoint) has got a lot of policy-based power that helps to round out NPS. IDM adds ACLs, QoS, and time/location stuff. Of course, the only issue with IDM is that it's layered on top of ProCurve Management and is ProCurve specific - so if you're not an HP ProCurve shop, it won't help much. But I'll put in a big-fat caveat, which is that I haven't tested it and so take everything I say here with a grain of salt.
SC: We are looking at SSL-VPN for remote access 1st and down the road NAC for the inside network. Should we go single vendor or wait to see what IF-MAP brings in post-admission control?
Joel_Snyder: I'd solve the pain point first with a good solution (SSL VPN) and then re-surface in 6 months to see what's happening with IF-MAP. Too early to put eggs in IF-MAP basket this month. I have hopes, but hopes are not products.
NAC%20Dog: How soon do you think the trusted platform modules embedded in laptops and desktops will become a significant part of NAC deployments?
Joel_Snyder: Could be a long time. If Microsoft includes it in the Windows Security Center SHA, then we're in better shape. But we have a LOT of TPM chips that aren't being used in a LOT of desktops, laptops, and servers. I think that a lot of folks just don't get TPM, which is OK, but there also seem to be a lot of product managers in vendors who ALSO don't get it. Try putting pressure. Make 'em figure it out.
Mash: Reply to the MAC auth answer: Fine answer, thanks! I didn't see it in the big picture with IF-MAP, so that's fine!
Joel_Snyder: Even with phones, I think if you've got a solid firewall between your VoIP network and the rest of the world, you're probably going to be safe even without.
Moderator-Julie Pre-submitted question: Do you have to disable NAC on a switch port with a non 802.1x device attached i.e printer? If the answer is yes what will happen if someone removes the printer and then plugs a PC in?
Joel_Snyder: Absolutely not. You have to have a way to handle corner cases, like printers. This calls for a bunch of switch configuration that is specifically designed to make this work. What most people have done is use MAC authentication bypass (available in almost all modern switches) which does a MAC auth of the device if it doesn't talk 802.1X. By the way, a lot of printers nowadays, phones, and even video cameras will talk 802.1X. But if it doesn't, then you do a MAC auth and put the guy on the printer VLAN or apply the printer ACL.
If someone then sneaks a PC on that port, you have two options. If the sneaky guy hasn't stolen the MAC address, then everything works fine - they don't get access, or they fall into the Guest VLAN and a captive portal. If the sneaky guy has stolen the MAC address, then you let them in as a printer. That presumably (if you haven't screwed up) limits what they can do because they can only act like a printer. And if you've got more concerns, then you can use something like a Great Bay Beacon (Cisco resells that; I don't know what they call it) to do device profiling and if the guy pretending to be a printer starts acting up, then you can knock them off and send an alert.
Moderator-Julie Pre-submitted question: We have a full Cisco switch/routed/firewalled/VoIP network and are warming to Cisco NAC as an infrastructure based NAC deployment: a) Will NAC work from behind a Cisco phone/unmanaged switch? b) If "a)" is possible what happens if some devices on an unmanaged switch are 802.1x and some are not? c) How does NAC work with wireless (i.e devices like phones/pc's moving from one WAP to another)?
Joel_Snyder: Whoa, dude. What is this, get-it-all-in-one-question week? Let me give you the fast answers, and you can write back in if you need more detail. (a) yes, but you may have restrictions on what ACL and VLAN you can do. See David Newman's 10Gig Switch test for a specific discussion of the restrictions. (b) It depends on what you want to do with them. If you want to drop them on a guest VLAN, no problem, although now you're crossing the streams and that sounds like a bad idea. (Try to imagine all life as you know it stopping instantaneously and every molecule in your body exploding at the speed of light.) (c) 802.1X is 802.1X. That's the beauty of it all. GO between wired, 802.11, 802.16, whatever. You will have a re-auth in some wireless gear, which is perhaps bad. This is a good argument for an integrated wireless management system (in your case, probably the Airespace stuff, but Aruba and Aerohive would do the same).
Sam: Will NAC work from behind an unmanaged switch?
Joel_Snyder: Define "work." Obviously you don't have total control the way you do with a switch, but you can do lots of NAC things. I think in the last answer I mentioned David Newman's article on switches which talks about some of the limitations. I'll also point you to http://www.opus1.com/nac/teamwhitepapers/2008-09SwitchFeatures.pdf which is a white paper on switch features that are relevant to this question.
shelly: Do you have a favorite EAP type that you recommend for people trying to deploy 802.1X?
Joel_Snyder: You want me to say "EAP FAST" don't you? Honestly, though, it doesn't much matter. You want an EAP method that will let you send your posture information through. Frankly, the choice of EAP method is the last thing you do: you start with your client and Policy Decision Point and figure out what method they support in common. I suspect that EAP methods are fast becoming a non-knowledge-area with 802.1X nowadays and people will just use whatever works.
I believe that PEAP will dominate because of the NAP client, and if that works, then I don't see any reason to argue against it. The personal problem I have with PEAP is that it doesn't support non-Microsoft authentication systems (like our RADIUS server here at Opus One). But I consider my personal problem too small. In the world at large, there's Active Directory and not a lot else that we should be yanking people around for.
Mash" In Microsoft NAP, there's a "test-mode", where you can get the reports on devices that would have been denied access to network, if policies were enforced. Wouldn't that be a good way to start and that way see what you have to find workarounds/solutions for, before deploying full-scale? (Whether or not you end up with Microsoft NAP or some other vendors NAC?)
Joel_Snyder: Totally. Who could disagree with that? Only an idiot will turn on all NAC features on the same moment. You start with non-enforcement and maybe even non-authentication. Slide things in slowly and pragmatically and reasonably. ALL NAC vendors should have a Test-Mode, just like all IPSes should. Anyone that doesn't is defective in my book. And your strategy is totally the way to go. How many times can I put totally in an answer? Totally, Dude (or Dudette).
Moderator-Julie: Pre-submitted question: How secure is Microsoft's new networking "mesh" technology?
Joel_Snyder: I am not entirely sure I know what you're thinking of here, so I'm going to assume you're talking about wireless mesh, which is pretty interesting stuff from an access point of view - but a total nightmare from a security point of view. My general thinking is that if you use any kind of mesh wireless where 'foreign' access points may participate, you should be doing end-to-end encryption of any traffic that you care about, either with a VPN client or application layer encryption. But I'm not sure what this has to do with NAC.
Joel_Snyder: As long as we have a lull, I'll put in one more pitch for the Interop data at http://www.opus1.com/nac/. This is the best NAC resource we could put together for implementers and technical people, and there's no marketing fluff attached. The white papers are my favorite part … although not as funny as this chat. And no cheese references.
Moderator-Keith: That cheese reference wasn't very gouda...
Joel_Snyder: At least it was brie-f.
Moderator-Julie: Final pre-submitted question: If we were to use an end-point NAC system i.e Sophos, how easy would it be for a malware coder to write software to manipulate NAC code sent in the pre- and post-admission stages so to fool the NAC system into thinking that the PC is virus free when it isn't?
Joel_Snyder: Well, first of all, let's disabuse a notion that having a virus checker turned on and current says anything about having a virus. You can have both and that's normal behavior. Of course, the goal is reducing your RISK of having a virus by making sure that the A/V is up to date. But don't think that just because you can tell whether the user has A/V turned on and up-to-date that it says anything about whether or not they're infected.
But now let's talk about "how easy." Well, it depends on the units you're measuring "easy" in. Everything involving software is fake-able at one level or another. The best world would be using a TPM (Trusted Platform Module) to ensure that the NAC stuff is intact. If not, then I guess I'd say that it's 6 gallons of easy, maybe 8 gallons. However, you can't have absolute security. What we're trying to do here is go from NO end-point checking to SOME end-point checking. The real answer here is to add in behavioral technologies so that if someone does turn out to be a bad apple and you don't catch them with on-device software you can at least catch them by having your IDS or IPS interact with your NAC solution.
Mash: Microsoft is trying to sell their ConfigMgr with the argument, that auto-remediation is tightly integrated with Microsoft NAP. Are they just "hyping"?
Joel_Snyder: I think that lots of vendors are able to do remediation, as well as Microsoft. I wouldn't let the Microsoft guys say that they are the only ones who can do remediation. Lots of end-point security vendors can do that, and maybe even better than Microsoft. I'm actually not much of a desktop guy so I don't know how much better or worse, but I bet "at least as good as."
Moderator-Keith: With all of our questions answered, let me take this time to thank Joel again for joining us, and for the awesome questions asked and answered. Joel, u are da man.
Joel_Snyder: Keith, *YOU* are da man. And even with the ch33s3 l33+ speak!
Moderator-Keith: Please remember to mark your calendars for our upcoming chats:
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7845 Lake City Way N.E.Seattle, WA
(206) 527-8888
Chiang's Gourmet is like a lot of other Chinese restaurants in Seattle-- you can get a lot more out of it if you
put some effort into it. When I walked in I was offered a lunch menu with a lot of innocuous looking sweet and
sour and kung pao dishes (although I actually like kung pao when it is done right). I had read on the Chowhound
web site, though, that they specialize in Szechuan dishes, so I asked for the larger menu. I still did not see what
I wanted, though, and when another person came to help me I found out they have a second dinner menu.
After two other people came in, were offered the regular menu, and asked for the second menu, I got the
impression that this particular waitress was not eager to volunteer the information that some additional
authentic dishes were available. The manager was more helpful, as is probably the case with the majority
of the employees.
The strange thing, though, is that both the dinner menu and the "secret" menu seemed to have some
of the more authentic Chinese dishes. The regular menu had a section called "Szechuan Heaven" with
items such as Crispy Pig's Intestine in Garlic and Hot Pepper. The second menu had hot pot dishes,
although they are not identified as such.
I was told that Chiang's Gourmet serves both Szechuan style dishes and Cantonese, and that the
cooks originated from both places. While many restaurants try to serve a wide range of dishes from
different regions, it is impressive that Chiang's only tries to do what it can do best. It may not be very
evident from the menus, but I believe this is the philosphy of the management.
Since I wanted to try the Szechuan side of the menu, the manager recommended a special hot pot
dish. This was the type of "hot pot" I see in many restaurants-- the food is served in a ceramic pot to keep it
warm. The item I ordered was House Special Home Made Soup Noodle that consisted of a huge bowl
of dark red broth filled with shredded pork, shrimp, and noodles. Normally this would not be
my choice for an order, but I was assured that this was one of the better Sichuanese dishes. The most
impressive part of the dish was the freshness and quality of all the items. The pork and shrimp had a
flavor that I seldom find in restaurants, and the noodles were delicious. The broth was prepared at the
"default" level, which is not extremely spicy. I was given extra chile powder and chile paste on the side,
though, and this helped the flavor immensely. Overall this was an excellent dish, and due more to its
quality than the flavor, I suspect other dishes served here are quite good as well.
It might be a little hard to work around the menu since there are quite a few items, many of which are
not normally found in Chinese restaurants. It is particularly hard when there are menus that they do not
give you when you sit down. I also thought my dinner could have been made more spicy to begin with
without having to add extra chiles on my own. Overall, though, Chiang's Gourmet seems to be one of the
better Chinese restaurants in the city, as well as one of the most authentic. Other types of cuisine are
available besides Szechuan, but I do not think there are very many opportunities to try Sichuanese food
prepared as well as here.
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0 what is your opinion on appropriate hairstyles for nurses? i've seen some nurses with hair down to the middle of their backs. maybe they pulled it up when going into pt care, maybe not. wouldnt hair that long get in your way? or get caught on something?
im still a student, so we have to have hair off our collars, and we can't even wear ponytails, b/c htey can swing forward when you lean over. dont think it should be that strict, but i just wonder about the really long hair and how to keep it out of the way when you wear it down to work, unless you pull it up every time you go into a room,which isn't that practical.
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0Dec 14, '04 by chad75Appropriate hair for nurses? Umm clean and not unkempt. If you have long hair and there is a chance of contamination while performing a sterile procedure (OR) you should probably restrain your hair in such a manner that is not an exposure risk. I don't see any issues other then the above.0Dec 14, '04 by abundantjoy07From what I know...
Your hair should be pinned up. Not flying everywhere or being a hassle my getting in your face.
Yet, it shouldn't look unprofessional or too over the top. Meaning 25 cans of hairspray keeps it in place. Or it's distracting to others.
I think hair should basically be kept out of your face and tamed.0Dec 14, '04 by nursepearlI have long curl hair that goes to my waist. I have it down some times. But most of the time it is half up, half down. If I am going to do somthing like put in a foley, start an IV or change a CVC dressing....I will put it all the way up. Also, if I am going into an isolation room, I pull it all the way up or tuck it inside the gown or my shirt.
I dont have a problem keeping it out of things or getting it stuck in anything.
As long as its clean and doesnt smell like the products you use (work in oncology with sensitive patients), it should be okay.1Dec 15, '04 by leslieanneIn Denmark, your hair has to be up. If your hair hangs forward at any length you have to pin it up. Ponytails are ok, as long as they don't swing forward too much. If you have long hair --- it's bun time!!
:hatparty:CrazyCatRN likes this.2Dec 15, '04 by Angie O'Plasty, RNAs I was bending forward to assess a patient's breath sounds a few nights ago, the patient said, "You know, you have really nice hair."
I was shocked. A patient--a GUY--noticed my hair. Even my own DH has to be prompted.:chuckle
He went on to say, "You know, I noticed because it's up and it's neat, not hitting me in the face, like some of the girls' hair."
'Nuff said.Not_A_Hat_Person and RN in training like this.0Dec 15, '04 by AntikigirlROF! Okay I had an issue with this...long hair, keep it pinned or behind your back just for pure cleanliness..ewwww! Short hair, I say go for it!!!!!!
Honestly I think it is time we get out of the 20's as far as what a nurse should look like (okay remember I work with Geri's whos idea of what a nurse should look like still revolves around an hourglass shape, single, and THE CAP....ouch!...so I am a bit bias! LOL!). As long as you are clean, kept and keep your hair out of things..good to go! I also believe in showing yourself as far as wearing appropriate uniforms or scrubs (not the stark whites...oh no no!, but look professional, you earned it...so keep that one up!).
I am all for tattoos, piercings and what not as long as while you are at work they are completely covered..with exception to earrings...I don't think two piercings on one ear is bad..but more is a bit much for some...especially on the upper ridge (which I have, and wear the thinest gold hoops, and my hair goes over them and no one has noticed...even my caregivers that dorn nose rings!!! LOL!).
I like to be professional, but yet I want to be me too. Without me, there is no Nurse me, so...
I wear a uniform...pastel button down shirt, white vest, tan pants, clean and kept, short spikey hair (no colors of hair out of natural, so I went blonde highlights with my natural brown but lucky for me it so blends in and doesn't look drastic in any way..whew! I would die it back brown if it did..don't want patients calling me two toned or skunk! LOL!). I wear funky socks (can't see them anyway), tan shoes, and only one set of earrings (the almost invisable ones I spoke of!). I don't wear makeup because I don't want to at 0500! On Causual Fridays, Oh boy do I go wild..LOL, purple or blue scrubs with matching cover up that I had from my last job..but I get lots of complements on the color and my skin tone..LOL! Then I may dorn a pair of holiday earrings for fun right now (but I tend to wear small ones by habit, I once was a sales gal for clothing and I had a small loop earring..got a hanger on one..ummmmmm..that hurt! So I don't do that anymore! LOL!).
Most of my caregivers tie their hair back, or use one of those cool claw clamps to hold it up...looks great!!!!!
But it is like I said to them...we are not a fashion show, and if we were it wouldn't be the fashions of the 20's or 30's...but the 2000's and that would be rather shocking! (yeah but hugging low riding scrubs..oh joy..LOL!) so try to find the middle ground yet represent yourself professional and personally in balance!0Dec 15, '04 by ERNurse752I have long curly hair...wear it in a ponytail, and don't have problems with it flopping around and getting into things. Used to wear it half up/half down, but it got to be too much time and trouble getting ready for work.
I wish I could use those claw things...but I wind up looking like a have a lopsided poodle sitting on top of my head.0Dec 15, '04 by General E. Speaking, RNWe have a nurses aide who is black. She is always changing her weaves. Some of them are pretty but last year around Fourth of July she came in with this firecracker red extension on top of her head. One of the surgeon's made a comment about proffesionalism and she was promptly sent home. I felt bad for her because I know it was probably expensive. However, hairstyles should be appropriate for the work place.
One should stick with the blue and green hues as they are more pleasing to the eye. :chuckle1Dec 15, '04 by NurseGuy_in_06I say as long as what you wear, hair and uniform, doesn't scare the patient. At our hospital the average age and sex of the patient is 69 yo female. They are from a way different generation and get a lot of their info about how a person's clothes and such reflect the type of person they are from TV, not the most reliable of sources. I know the original question concerned hair but someone mentioned tatoos, earrings, scrubs, etc. and thought I would give my 2 cents.
PS Cleanliness is just expected.Not_A_Hat_Person likes this.


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Didn't she used to race for Letterman's team or something? I think that's where I heard of her from, she was showcased as the guest one day and the ads for it were all over.
I did notice that the only people in our SuperBowl group that recognized her were people that consistently watched nighttime television, or a few sports games every week, if there's any correlation.
Dario Franchitti won the Indy 500 and the IRL series title in 2007
February 04 2008 at 7:31 PM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down ReplyIt helps to understand the subject when doing a review, but it seems pretty obvious(especially after reading other reviews, Derek Jeter) that Ms Creer just doesn't know much about sports nor did she get many of the references that much of the viewing audience did get. The main purpose of the commercial was to get people to go to GoDaddy.com, of course. Go Daddy.com gets a bunch of attention for their "controversial" ads every year. This year, they basically used the attention around the ad as the ad since they didn't have much time for a Plan B.
February 04 2008 at 2:37 PM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down ReplyI surf the internet daily, watch sports, visit sports websites, and still had no idea who this girl was. While other sports stars might be "all over the place", this girl aint one of them
Maybe if she starts winning we'll hear a little more about her. Until then, I think a comercial about her flaunting her body for a bunch of horney nerds is as much of a splotlight she'll get
Just the opposite -- winning won't help at all. Can you name the winner of the last Indy 500? The last IRL season title?
In tennis, can you name the Australian Open women's champion? OK, non-tennis fans might get that one because Maria Sharapova, playing some of the best tennis of her career, took that one. But Anna Kournikova never won a singles title. She was a terrific doubles player, but no one knew about that at all.
Patrick attracted attention because she's a rarity -- a female race-car driver. She's even more of a rarity in that she's good enough to contend for wins, though she hasn't won one yet. And she's, um, marketable.
If a couple of people haven't heard of her, fine, but you'll have to take my word for it that she is actually a pretty substantial celebrity. More famous than just about everyone who played in the actual game except Tom Brady.
I gotta agree with you, bdure. I don't watch racing or sports and I haven't watched a professional football game, including the super bowl, in 10 years, but I know who Danica, Maria and Anna are. I also know who Peyton Manning is along with Shaquille O'Neil, Charles Barkley, etc. because, as you said, these people are all over the place.
February 04 2008 at 12:21 AM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down ReplyShe's actually not NASCAR -- she does Indy-style racing and held a late lead at the Indianapolis 500 a couple of years ago.
But beyond that, she's all over the place. Commercials, talk shows, magazines, etc. She's a bit like David Beckham in the sense that you might not follow the sport but you know the name.
To compare to another ad -- if you asked me to hum a Shakira tune, I couldn't do it. But I'm aware that she is a well-known singer.
It's like the Pulp Fiction conversation -- "But you are aware there is something called television, and they produce shows, right?"
Why do you think it's pretending? I wouldn't recognize most sports players. I've heard the names of players like Tom Brady and Derek Jeter but I have no idea what they look like. I certainly don't watch Nascar (seriously, when did this get considered a sport?) so I for one had no idea who she was. I dont watch sports on TV, and I assume anyone else who doesnt recognize the players doesnt either.
February 03 2008 at 9:16 PM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down ReplyIs there something about the Super Bowl that brings out the "hipper than thou" attitude in which people have to pretend they don't recognize famous athletes? I suppose it also happened when Peyton Manning hosted SNL -- didn't we have some TV Squadders who had no idea who he was?
That's Danica Patrick, frequently downloaded race car driver. I'm sure the ad is stupid -- GoDaddy ads don't exactly treat women as anything other than eye candy, and Patrick has never seemed at ease with the concept.
As a public service, I should probably tell everyone that if they see a blonde Russian tennis player in an ad these days, it's most likely Maria Sharapova rather than Anna Kournikova.
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Al-Jazira (الجزيرة) meaning "the island" in Arabic, properly transliterated as al-jazīrah / al-jazīra / al-ǧazīrah.
Other possible transcriptions include Jazeera, Jazira, Jazeerah, Gezirah, Gazirah, Gazira, Gazeera, Gazeerah, Gezeerah. The Arabic definite article al is not always included, but if it is included, it may then be perceived as incorrect to say "the al Jazira" (two definite articles), except where the al is treated as part of the brand name: "the Al Jazeera TV channel".
Jazira and its variants, with or without the article "al", may refer to:
- Al-Jazira, Mesopotamia, the river plain of Mesopotamia, which encompasses northwestern Iraq and northeastern Syria
- Al-Jazira province former Syrian province
- shibh al-jazīrah al-ʻarabīyah, the Arabian Peninsula
- Al Jazirah, Sharjah, a settlement in Sharjah
- Al Jazirah (state) in Sudan
- Gezira Island, is an island on the river Nile in central Cairo, best known for its up-market residential district Zamalek
- Algeciras, a city in Cádiz province, southern Spain, near Gibraltar
- Madina al Jazira, the Arabic name of the town of Ciutadella de Menorca, Minorca, Balearic Islands
- The Arabic original for the Spanish town of Alzira
- Zalzala Jazeera, an island off the coast of Pakistan
- Gżira, a town in Malta
- Al Jazeera, a major Arabic television network and channel, based in Qatar
- Al Jazeera English, the Al Jazeera network's English 24-hour news channel, based in Qatar, Malaysia, the UK, and the US
- Aljazeera Magazine, a London-based magazine published by Aljazeera Publishing
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- Al Jazirah, a Saudi daily newspaper
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The 2015 Indiana Tree Farm Landowners Clinic is a program designed to provide landowners interested in managing their forests and wild lands an introduction to management practices, and resources for advice and assistance. The program is open to anyone interested in trees and wildlife. Since 1941 the American Tree Farm System has educated and recognized the commitment of private family forestland owners demonstrated in sustainable forest stewardship. We will have tree measuring sticks available for sale. Join us to learn more about Tree Farm and how you can improve your property. This program is offered through the cooperation of the Indiana Tree Farm Committee, the Indiana Department of Natural Resources (INDNR), Division of Forestry, and the Hardwood Tree Improvement and Regeneration Center (HTIRC).
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ResourcesPurdue FNR EventsForest Improvement Handbook, The Education StoreA Landowner's Guide to Sustainable Forestry: Part 1: Sustainable Forestry - What Does It Mean for Indiana?, The Education Store
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Got Nature?Department of Forestry and Natural Resources
Find an event in your area for February 22-28, 2015, National Invasive Species Awareness Week (NISAW). According to experts with the Weed Science Society of America (WSSA), it's a topic that deserves our attention. Non-native plants, animals and pathogens can harm humans and the environment and impact our nation's economy. The damage done by invasive plants alone costs the U.S. an estimated $34.7 billion a year.
The NISAW web site shares how invasive weeds can produce skin irritation, trigger allergies and poison pets and livestock. They can clog waterways, kill native trees, and shade out crops, ornamentals and prized native flora. They are found in every imaginable habitat, including oceans, lakes, streams, wetlands, croplands, rangelands, natural areas, parks, forests, urban environments, yards and gardens.
Check out the National Invasive Species Awareness Week web site and find nine ways you can help along with a list of partners which includes: Weed Science Society of America, Center for Invasive Species and Ecosystem Health, USDA, U.S. Fish and Wildlife Services, USDA National Institute of Food and Agriculture(NIFA), Natural Resources Conservation Service (NRCS), U.S. Department of the Interior Bureau of Land Management, National Park Service, Reduce Risks from Invasive Species Coalition, National Wildlife Refuge System and more.
Upcoming WorkshopsForest Management for the Private Woodland Owner, Feb. 24th, Department of Forestry and Natural Resources (FNR), ExtensionConserving Nature on Your Land, Feb. 27th & 28th, FNR, ExtensionControl of Woodland Invasive Species Demonstration, March 6th, Indiana Small Farms Conference, Purdue Agriculture
ResourcesFNR Workshops, Department of Forestry and Natural Resources, (FNR)Purdue Extension Small Farms, FacebookGot Nature? blog, click on "forestry", FNRThe Education Store, Purdue Extension, place in the search field "invasives"Invasive Species, Indiana DNR
Got Nature?Department of Forestry and Natural Resources
Purdue University is partnering with three Indiana zoos and the state in a conservation program that will involve raising year-old hellbender salamanders and then a few years later returning them to their southern Indiana habitat to be tracked.
Rod Williams, associate professor of wildlife science and leader of the university's hellbender effort, approached officials at Columbian Park Zoo in Lafayette, Fort Wayne Children's Zoo and Mesker Park Zoo in Evansville about joining the program, which also includes the Indiana Department of Natural Resources.
North America's largest salamander is in decline nationally and is most vulnerable to predators when young. "Mortality can be as high as 99 percent in the wild," Williams said. "By rearing them in captivity for three to four years they will have a much better survival rate." Read full article, Purdue Agriculture News.
Resources:Help the Hellbender, Purdue UniversityAquaculture Research Lab, Department of Forestry and Natural ResourcesThe Nature of Teaching, The Education Store, Purdue Extension, place "Nature of Teaching" in search field for list of all lessons available
Rod Williams, Associate Professor of Wildlife ScienceDepartment of Forestry and Natural Resources (FNR), Purdue University
Invasive plants are species that can grow and spread aggressively, mature quickly, and invade an ecosystem causing economic and environmental damage. What a better way to learn about them and how to protect your land than to attend the Control of Woodland Invasive Species Demonstration by Lenny Farlee, sustaining hardwood extension specialist. This event is hosted by the Indiana Small Farm Conference.Who: Indiana Small Farm ConferenceWhat: Control of Woodland Invasive Species DemonstrationWhen: March 6th, 11:15-11:45amWhere: Exposition Hall at the Hendricks County Fairgrounds and Conference CenterDetails: Registration is still available. Sign up by calling The Education Store at 888.398.4636 today!
There will also be pre-conference workshops taking place on Thursday, March 5, 2015 and more workshops from Friday to Saturday evening. You will find topics from Solar Energy for Small Farms to Bee Health Update and Honey Bee Queen Rearing. View the schedule for more details on the Indiana Small Farm Conference web site.
ResourcesFNR Workshops, Department of Forestry and Natural Resources, (FNR)Purdue Extension Small Farms, FacebookGot Nature? blog, click on "forestry", FNRNational Invasive Species Awareness Week, Feb. 22-28The Education Store, Purdue Extension, place in the search field "invasives"Invasive Species, Indiana DNR
Lenny Farlee, Sustaining Hardwood Extension SpecialistDepartment of Forestry and Natural Resources
Purdue Extension is hosting a one-day event for homeowners and rural landowners to help them maintain the natural resources on their properties.
Participants can chose to attend one of the two "Conserving Nature on Your Land" workshops -
Date: February 27, 2015Time: 8:30 a.m. to 3:30 p.m. ESTLocation: Whitley County 4-H Center, 680 West Squabuck Road, Columbia City, IN 46725
Date: February 28, 2015Time: 8:30 a.m. to 3:30 p.m. ESTLocation: Turkey Run State Park Inn, 8102 East Park Road, Marshall, IN 47859
The program will provide information for developing and enhancing woods, landscapes and other natural resources. There will be various sessions, so participants can choose those that best suit their interests.
Sessions will include topics on tree identification, wildlife inventory, planting and protecting tree seedlings, and multiple other management discussions.
Brian MacGowan, Purdue Extension wildlife specialist, will give an introduction to the session on natural resources management. "Our program is an opportunity for participants to learn about what interests them the most from leading experts," MacGowan said. "It also provides them a forum to interact with and learn from other homeowners who have shared similar interest in natural resources."
The deadline to register is Feb. 18. Payment of $40 per individual ($55 for couples) must be included with the registration form. Pay online. View the Conserving Nature on Your Land pamphlet for more details.
Questions? Email Brian MacGowan.
Brian MacGowan, Extension Wildlife SpecialistDepartment of Forestry & Natural Resources, Purdue University
Indiana Department of Natural Resources
The Indiana Department of Natural Resources (DNR) will be holding a free program in the Lafayette area to educate the community on coyotes. There has been an increase in coyote sightings recently. They are common in all parts of Indiana. DNR experts will be hosting the meeting and will be discussing waye to reduce conflit with coyotes, questions concerning pet safety and current hunting/trapping regulations. There will also be a meeting in the Fort Wayne and Indianapolis area.What: Living with CoyotesWhere: 1333 Ivy hall, Ivy Tech, 3101 S. Creasy Lane, Lafayette INWhen: Thursday, February 19th, 6:00 pm to 8:00 pmDetails: Register on the DNR's site. Cost is free.ResourcesEducation Events, Indiana DNRCoyote sightings increasing, Got Nature?DNR provides coyote education class in Lafayette, wlfi.comIndiana Department of Natural Resources
The Terre Haute area in Indiana is in a tree crisis. With Emerald Ash Borer, and other deciding factors, 300 plus trees a year will be removed. Over the next few years this averages to approximately 24% of the total trees that will be gone. Planning for the future with the knowledge of this loss is crucial. While the city will pay for removing the trees and tree related projects, it is not in the city's budget to replace the trees at this time. The city needs to apply for grants to fund re-planting projects. The trees are removed due to diseases, age, and when people run into them with cars. If you want to learn more about the tree crisis and the action that will be taken, you are welcome to attend the Emerald Ash Borer summit.
What: TREES Inc. Emerald Ash Borer SummitWhere: Vigo County Library, Meeting Rooms A, B, & CWhen: Thursday, February 12, 12:00pm to 1:30 pm
ResourcesForestry Report Shows Terre Haute in Tree Crisis, mywabashvalley.comEmerald Ash Borer in Indiana, Purdue ExtensionTree Installation: Process and Practices, The Education StoreTree Risk Management, The Education Store
Got Nature?Department of Forestry and Natural ResourcesPurdue University
In the past twenty years there has been an increase of population for bald eagles in the Indiana area. Dr. Barney Dunning, Professor of Wildlife Ecology with the Department of Forestry and Natural Resources, stated that since the Indiana Department of Natural Resources (DNR) introduced them to the area in 1980 the population has taken off. He knows of 19 nests just along the Wabash, Wildcat Creek and the Tippecanoe River. Take the opportunity to view our national bird in Indiana today!The Indiana DNR will be hosting an Eagle Watch presented by the Upper Wabash Interpretive Services.What: Eagle Watch!Where: Salamonic Interpretive Center, 3691 S. New Holland Road, Andrews, IN 46702When: February 14 & 15, 3:00 pmDetails: Pre-registration required. View the Upper Wabash Interpretive Services flyer for details.ResourcesBald Eagle Population in Indiana on the Rise, Full-Time WhistleBald Eagle, Indiana DNRBald Eagle Breeding Season is Upon Us, Got Nature?Indiana Department of Natural Resources
The tax filing due date is a couple of months away, but it's not too early to start collecting information and planning for your return. Woodland owners and landowners planting trees for timber production may be able to take advantage of some parts of the tax code to reduce their bill, if they know what to look for and how to file to receive the best treatment of their income under the law. Several resources are available to help you drill down to those parts of the code that could provide you with some tax breaks. For those who have sold timber in 2014, depending on your individual situation, you may be able to deduct the costs associated with selling timber and the cost basis of the timber from gross income. Basis is the amount you paid for the timber when you purchased the land, or the value of the timber when you inherited it. Since land with standing timber is normally sold as a set value per acre combining both the bare land and timber value, you will need to collect some information and do some calculations to determine basis. A discussion of basis and how it is calculated and used can be found by viewing this FNR Extension publication Determining Tax Basis of Timber.
Timber held for more than one year prior to sale may be eligible for the long-term capital gains income tax rates, providing a much lower rate than the ordinary income tax rates. Profits from selling logs, lumber, or other products derived from harvested trees are not normally eligible for capital gains rates. How you select to sell your timber may inlfuence how the timber is taxed as well. Additional information on determining the type of income your timber sale revenue represents can be found by viewing this FNR Extension publication How to Treat Timber Sale Income.
Costs associated with planting at least one acre of trees for timber production may be eligible for deductions that could reduce your tax bill. A discussion of the investment and tax status of tree plantings can be found by viewing this FNR Extension publication Financial and Tax Aspects of Tree Planting.
Tree planting and forest management practiced as an investment are long-term activities, so limiting your costs to manage these activities over time has a big impact on future return on your investment. Managing your tax liability is an important part of that equation.
In addition to the Purdue Extension publications linked above, the US Forest Service provides an annual publication, Tax Tips for Forest Landowners, to provide updates on income tax issues.
The information in this article is intended to help you find resources to answer tax questions, but should not be considered individual tax advice. Consult appropriate tax codes and professionals about your individual circumstances.
Resources:www.timbertax.org, National Timber TaxU.S. Forest ServiceThe Education Store, place in the search field "timber"
Lenny Farlee, Sustaining Hardwood Extension SpecialistHardwood Tree Improvement and Regeneration CenterDepartment of Forestry & Natural Resources, Purdue University
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Sat 09 Ė Austria, Dornbirn, Spielboden Färbergasse 15, A-6850 Dornbirn Cost: 24Ä (reservations & box office) Book online at: http://spielboden.at/karten Web: http://www.spielboden.at/
Sun 10 Ė Germany, Frankfurt (Main), Brotfabrik BachmannstraŖe 2-4, 60488 Frankfurt am Main Cost: 24Ä + charges (presale) / 28Ä (box office) Book online at: http://www.tapeterecords.de Web: http://www.brotfabrik.info/
Mon 11 Ė Germany, Bochum, Zeche Prinz-Regent-StraŖe 50, 44795 Bochum Cost: 24 Ä + charges (presale) / 28 Ä (box office) Book online at: http://www.tapeterecords.de Web: http://www.zeche.com/
Wed 13 Ė Switzerland, Zürich, Restaurant Viadukt Viaduktstrasse 69/71, 8005 Zürich Cost: 30 CHF (reservations & box office) Book online at : http://www.restaurant-viadukt.ch Email reservations - email@example.com
Thu 14 Ė Germany, Freiburg, Waldsee WaldseestraŖe 84, 79117 Freiburg im Breisgau Cost: 24 Ä + charges (presale) / 28 Ä (box office) Book online at: http://www.tapeterecords.de Web: http://www.waldsee-freiburg.de/
Fri 15-Apr Switzerland, Lausanne, Bleu Lezard
Sat 16-Apr Switzerland, Geneva, Alhambra
Wed 20-Apr Luxembourg, Dudelange, Centre Cultural Opderschmelz
Thu 21-Apr Holland, Amsterdam, People's Place
Sun 24-Apr Spain, Mallorca, venue TBC
Tue 26-Apr Demark, Copenhagen, Bremmen
Wed 27-Apr Sweden, LuleŚ, Kulturens hus
Thu 28-Apr Sweden, Stockholm, Rival
Sat 30-Apr Norway, Bergen, Bergenfest
it has been a long time since last time y came to barcelona. after the preciouss and touchable new cd, y can not miss your big group of fans inbarcelona. y are too close .... come on!!
Posted by: xavi @ 27/03/2011
Sunday 3th of April, in Bologna, Church of St.Agostino. Fantastic live, really intense and moving. In the middle of altar of the church, Lloyd Cole seem...God, the God of music, of couse... I stand in the third row in front of Mark Schwaber and i really enjoyed the acoustic show. Compliments also to Mark Schwaber and Matt Cullen. Thanks Lloyd for your music and for your cortesy after the show, signing autograph for your italian fans. See you soon in Italy.
Posted by: zurzin1 @ 05/04/2011
YES, great show in Bologna last Sunday, in front of an adoring audience...
I guess Mr. Cole was slightly moved by the love and affection pouring over him, as he joked "maybe we should play, in every Country, only 1 concert every 30 years"... ;-) well, I *hope* he was joking.. see you soon indeed!
Posted by: Andrea @ 07/04/2011
it was, again, a wonderful evening with you and the boys in Francfort last night.
Thank you very much and all the best for the rest of european tour.
Hope to seeya again soon (did you see golf last night ;-) ?
all the best Uwe
Posted by: goldenbelt @ 11/04/2011
A truly breathtaking set with both classic and new songs re-invented as classic (to be!) folk songs. The intimate venue was a perfect setting for these new arrangments. If anyone reading this is thinking of going then don't think just go! PS. thanks Lloyd for the chat and signing my CD's. And yes, the CD from "Live at The Hammersmith Apollo" is fantastic but then so was and is Rattlesnakes (a timeless classic). A+ en Suisse...until then I will keep thinking why I (now) love folk music :o)
Posted by: Blondie3010 @ 18/04/2011
Indeed it was a very good night at the Bleu Lťzard. I found Lloyd radiant, relaxed and witty. And obviously there was a real complicity between the guys who shared the same pleasure to be on stage. Among the many songs that were played to-night, I give a special mention to "So you'd like to save the world" and "Lost weekend", for their original rendition. A+++
Posted by: Joel @ 19/04/2011
Dear Lloyd,
Thank you so much for a fantastic evening!!!
Ever since the release of "Rattlesnakes", I've been waiting to see you live. And guess what, you didn't disappoint me. Now I know why you are such an important factor in my life. You can deliver the message of your songs! You brought tears(of joy) to my eyes a few times.
Thank you for taking the time to sign and take a picture!
Hope to see you again real soon!
Kindest regards, Edwin
Posted by: Edwin van Welie @ 24/04/2011
Cheers to Mark and Matt!!! Say hi to your brother!!!
Nice concert in Amsterdam. Next time would like to see you play with a drummer though. I tried to invite you to play on the evening radio show I work for but it turned out you were only in town that one day..
Ruurd Edens
Posted by: ruurd @ 27/04/2011
Thank you for a fantastic gig in Amsterdam! You hadn't been here for a while, but it was worth the wait. Nice venue (except for that airco blowing in your neck!).
You and Mark and Matt are a great team. I thoroughly enjoyed the two great long sets. Come back soon!
Enjoy the rest of the tour.
Cheerio, Mark
Posted by: lion @ 27/04/2011
Hi Lloyd, A big and warm thank you for a lovely concert in Copenhagen the other night.
Fantastic to hear the new songs from BR live - they blend in very well.
Best wishes
(I guess your Danish has grown a bit rusty since the Krasnapolsky-days, but in case you care, you got a very good review in the biggest Danish newspaper today (the text is much more positive than the 4/6 ranking - doesn't make sense - http://ibyen.dk/musik/koncert-beat/article1266696.ece
Posted by: Rasmus @ 28/04/2011