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In the past the weight of race-affecting decisions was regularly handed to a group who all too often had little or no experience of racing at a high level and, unsurprisingly, confidence in the process on the part of drivers and teams was occasionally in short supply. But that changed in 2010 when the FIA began regularly to bring in a number of former and current racers to the Stewards Room to add a drivers perspective to proceedings. One of the first called up was eight-time Le Mans winner Tom Kristensen. The Dane made his stewarding debut at the 2010 Australian Grand Prix, has officiated three times since and says its a role he takes very seriously.
I take it as a big responsibility, because I just dont want to make a mistake, he says. I want to have all the facts in front of me in a very short time and make the right decision. And this is the pressure of being in that room. You need to gather all the information possible in as short a time as possible and make the right decision in a short space of time too.
Audi sports car star and two-times Le Mans winner Allan McNish agrees, admitting that his first event, the Monaco Grand Prix in 2011, was a daunting experience.
It was quite a baptism of fire, because while Id spoken to Tom [Kristensen] and Alex Wurz about how it works, when you get there you realise that theres a huge responsibility not just on your shoulders but on all the stewards shoulders, says the former Toyota F1 driver.
The decisions you make can effectively turn a race weekend or a season, if youre working at an end-of-year race as Tom did in Brazil. In that respect, you have to be very professional about it, you also have to be aware of the part you can potentially play in proceedings.
In Kristensens view the role of drivers representative on the stewards panel is just that. I feel that in some ways its my job to be there almost as the lawyer for the driver, he says. But nowadays there is so much information at hand - all the onboard, the real-time data, radio transmissions - that while you can quite easily justify an action, the question is: does that justification match the data. Sometimes the answer is no.
According to Connelly, the addition of drivers of the calibre of Kristensen and McNish has had a profound effect on how judgements are made at Grands Prix.
This has been in my view one of the most revolutionary and outstanding initiatives taken in the sport for years, he says emphatically. It brings a depth of experience and knowledge to the Stewards Room that is irreplaceable. The drivers take it seriously too. They are constructive and they are, in some cases, tougher than the toughest stewards Ive ever worked with.
Race director Whiting agrees, adding that it is the intuition of an experienced driver that often makes the difference to how situations are read.
They have a common sense approach to incidents that helps the process enormously, he says. Guys like Tom Kristensen will be able to look at an incident and immediately say, I understand why he did that. That speed of analysis is invaluable to the other guys in the room. The input from people like Tom, Allan McNish, Mika Salo
all of them, is fantastic. It also adds credibility to decisions in the eyes of the drivers.
McNish agrees that, for F1 drivers, having a peer in the judgement mix has made the handing down of penalties a more believable process.
I do think driver involvement has given a little bit of extra credibility to the process, he says. Its a face and a name that the other drivers know. Its someone who has lived their experience and its someone the drivers can speak to in a slightly different way. Unless youve experienced going through Eau Rouge at 175mph, experienced the g build-up on the steering wheel, the reaction of the car going up and over the top of Raidillon, then its very hard to understand what happens when an incident occurs in that environment.
If that makes the whole process sound relentlessly positive - as if the business of Grand Prix stewarding is now a warm and fuzzy endeavour warmly embraced by drivers and teams alike - then it isnt. Whiting admits that drivers are still often dismayed by what they see as inconsistency in the penalties handed out and frequently ask for cut-and-dried sanctions for particular crimes.
At the drivers briefing in Korea, for example, they were calling for a one-size fits all, five-grid place penalty for impeding, he says. My answer to that is no problem, its very simple for us to do that. It would take the choice out of the stewards hands and would be similar to the mandatory five-place penalty for a gearbox change - end of
But, you have to be careful what you wish for, because while you might feel justice has been done on one occasion, the same rule will inevitably bite you on the backside on another day and you might not be so happy with a harshly defined rule then.
There is also a feeling in some quarters that the sport is becoming increasingly litigious, with teams demanding investigation of even the most minor hampering of their drivers progress. But Connelly is sanguine about the teams zealous pursuit of justice, saying that, by and large, the current rules have fed into the situation.
It has become more legal, though I wouldnt call it that - I think the teams are just being more precise. Five years ago a lot of the alleged impeding incidents you wouldnt even bother investigating. But those were pre the current qualifying format and the current tyre regulations. Under the current regulations some of those impeding incidents have the potential to cause enormous damage to a teams quest for points.
If youve used your last set of more advantageous tyres but the lap has been compromised then it could have a big say in how your race goes, he adds. For example, at one race this year, Nico Hulkenberg was forced to use another set of tyres because of a relatively minor impeding incident, but that cost him a set of tyres. That meant he started the race with one less set than the people that caused him to use that set. Is that fair? There are always new aspects of the sport to consider.
And that extends to improving the stewarding process, as Connelly acknowledges.
Theres always room for improvement. I dont think the system will ever be perfect because were all human beings, he says. But we are striving for improvement all the time. Were getting very good feedback from some of the teams, very constructive feedback and thats really helpful. We also now have an internal communication that goes from each set of race stewards to all the stewards in the championship after each race, and that goes into all the decisions and why they were taken. Thats very helpful and, again, a lot of good ideas come out of that.
Currently those ideas include the possibility of introducing a points system on superlicences so that instances of bad behaviour would build cumulatively, leading to an eventual ban.
Weve discussed it only once so far, but well discuss again the possibility of introducing a system whereby if you are penalised three times for causing a collision then you get a one-race ban, says Whiting. I know president Todt is keen on introducing a points-based system, whereby you might incur a certain number of points for a certain offence, and then if you reach a certain total you would lose your licence for a race. That makes sense on paper but I think it would need a lot of discussion to get right.
Kristensen, meanwhile, believes there is scope for a new sanction, a penalty less severe than a drive-through.
I think it would be good to have something thats a little bit less severe than a drive-through, he says. Sometimes a drive-through can be very harsh and definitely spoil someones whole race, especially if theyre going for points, unless youre running at the very front. Perhaps there could be a penalty in which youre held for a slightly longer time at a pit stop.
The future of how F1 racing rules on the split-second decisions that can make or break a race is open to question. But just as F1 racing itself has morphed, over the past three decades, from a championship built more on the pursuit of excellence than on its achievement, into a technological powerhouse defined by an obsessive focus on perfection, so the Stewards Room has developed from a coterie of knowledgeable fans gathered around a couple of TV sets, into a group of highly informed experts operating at the cutting edge of technology.
The ultimate point of all that technology is straightforward, however, as Kristensen concludes:
When the chequered flag is shown, the score should be on the board, everybody should understand exactly why it is that way and everybody should leave feeling the right result has been achieved.
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Troll Runs After Train in Flooded England!
By Cryptozoology News February 9th, 2014LONDON (Cryptozoology News) — As the residents of flood-devastated Southern England brace for the incoming monster storm "Ruth", another person from the region is dealing with a different sort of nightmare.
The 25-year-old student, who spoke on condition of anonymity, told Cryptozoology News that he saw "a troll looking creature" running erratically across the flooded fields in farmland last week on a train headed to London.
"I came home to the village to visit my parents before getting back to London," he said. "I planned on staying there longer, but I was afraid the trains would be cancelled."
On his way back to the country's capital, he explained, an incredible occurrence took place.
"You have got to see it to believe it. I fell asleep a few times, I was zonked. When I wake up, the sun is almost down, I look through the window on my left and I thought I'd lost the plot. I see a three meter tall fat bloke running through the soggy fields, water up his knees. I was gobsmacked."
Then things got weirder. As the strange figure approached the slow running train, the witness was able to observe its face at close range.
"I thought it was a person…until it got closer to the train. We were going at a very slow speed because of the surrounding water. It wasn't a man. I don't know what that was but it had hair all over the body, and a bald face and chest. The eyes reminded me of a gorilla's but it had long ears like a wolf, and short white horns. I wasn't sure if I was still dreaming."
Other passengers on the train also saw the creature, he said. "I remember talking to a young boy and his mum. There weren't many people traveling that day, it's usually quite empty during the week."
Then the train allegedly sped up and the creature was left behind. "No, I wasn't dreaming mate. I also know what a bear looks like and it looked more like a troll. Remember, from the Lord of the Rings?"
The man said no pictures or videos of the sighting were taken. "Well mate, I was quite surprised, like I said. You just don't have got any time to reach your phone and take a picture. Things happen fast, that's what people don't get. So, unless you are a trained journalist or similar…and you are expecting something to happen, you've got nothing," he explained.
According to Norse and Scandinavian folklore, trolls are magical beings that live in the caves of rocks and mountains. They are not fond of humans and tend to avoid them as much as possible, though sometimes they imitate their behavior. These creatures are nocturnal and supposedly turn into rocks if exposed to sunlight, erecting new landmarks to be found and named by people later.
"Friends and other people say it's rubbish, but I know what I saw," the man said.
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Hallucinations from sleep deprivation can seem pretty real.
You are the troll
When two or more see the same thing, then we should give some credence to their report. I too occasionally see strange things and dismiss them unless my dogs react, or am with someone who also is a witness.
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That was me out for a run. I've been confused with a troll before so I'm used to it.
Sitting outside my home late in the evening and at times late at night – over the past couple/three years, I,ve been hearing something that sounds as though it's running through the the wood at 60kph. Whatever it is sounds like the Trollish creatures in the old Steven King films – Cats Eye comes to mind.
It has a loud, extremely high-pitched "voice?" and sounds "almost" to be laughing.
I've heard this "thing" 4 or 5 times now. I've gone 100 times over what in the world it could be – bird (we have a lot of Hawks around)?., or some kind animal?! But – it moves much to fast to be an animal, is to loud and the sound it makes is much to voice like to be a bird. That along with that it sounds to much to be moving at ground level. It is no Bird!!! If I had to explain to the Police or a court what I was hearing – I'de have to say "Darn thing sounds like a Troll/Ghoul"!!!
These stories are popping up (along with all the other Crazy BS going on in the World) all over. Google "Trolls/Ghouls seen in Africa". B -
Actually, google "Goblins Africa".
Added with Sinkholes etc. May be the Gates of Hell are being opened!!!
Several years ago ,along the bay in Florida,my boyfriend was stopped on his motorcycle and was enjoying the sunset when gargoyle looking creatures started coming up the beach toward him pig sized with gargoyle looking faces…needless to say it freaked him out and he took off…I myself witnessed a fairies coming out of a paper shopping bag ,it was at the foot of my bed,and came from a thrift store…they were tumbling in the air coming toward me..a 4 inch granny looking one with glasses on and a couple others dressed strangely..anyway I jumped from the bed and got my son..by that time they were gone and needless to say the bag with the clothes was gone also ….out to the trash…
You do know that there are odd looking people out there that avoid crowds and others because of their appearance? Maybe the weather brought this unsightly looking man out of his abode and he was in a hurry to catch the nearest train? If you go out late to the grocers, I find that a person does run into some interesting looking folk.
I have seen some very strange things in my life. when you have beings that do not want to be seen, they hide. Are these physical or spiritual beings we may not know in our lifetimes. Legends of old often have a basis in fact. who knows….maybe devils?
I have to agree with Brian and Colin; there are more unusual creatures and/or humanoids than we know – or even expect – the existence of.
W.M. Mott wrote the definitive book on these types of beings. I recommend it to anyone who really is seeking answers about creatures like this one, which have apparently always been around.
If it is true I would not be surprised. I have been researching instances like this all my life and I see some correlations.
With the recent claims that the CERN project in Europe is somehow going to create the GOD particle, that such tampering COULD open up a black hole devouring the planet and now that certain powerful and deluded world leaders have been seduced with an offer of godhood if somehow that will open a portal to allow them int this "dimension" ….all the while being the spirits of demons and fallen angels imprisoned by GOD one must wonder, as fantastic as it sounds
WHY would the infinite $$$ spent on such a mammoth facility miles underground be constructed to "create the primordial 1st second of of the big bang" . Portals to allow re-entry of demons and fallen angels into this world? Sound crazy? There seem to be a lot of really weird creatures reported now even more so than in the past in the area of Cryptozoology.
Maybe someone they don't even know exists is staying their hand til the appointed time. Revelation chapter 9 would be a good representation of this event.
What the hell is wrong with you people. Get back on your meds, stop smoking weed and go talk to someone.
Well I agree with one thing. These things are not from our reality. Lets face it, what many call an universe is actually a multiverse. Every thought becomes real in another reality. That includes the creatures you imagine. It is even possible to make it exist in this reality. I won't bore you with a page full of details, but if you want some clarification of "what the hell I am talking about" research Alexander David-Neel. She is an author and an explorer.
Jesus said of the last days "As in the days of Noe so shall it be in the coming of the Son of Man…….."
You've found mum-in-law – thanks ever so much!!!!!
I was in the mountains of northern california and saw trolls coming out of a cave next to the lake .There were a total of 6 of us camping and yes we ingested LSD from santa cruz called firefry . About 3 hours into the night it the trolls came down and we ran and left the camp . The pitch of there voice strange but the looks of them were scary like what you see in a scary movie . The next day we went back to the camp site which was destroyed .The lanterns were smashes, sleeping bags torn up, ice chest that had beer in it were smashed and the tent was up in a tree about 70 feet up .We found these footprints that looked like goat footprints as well. . When got back home 4 hours alter , we told our story .The dealer that sold us the LSD said that he knew his stuff was good but not that good .
troooololololoolololololololol…its possibly something else though like a goblin cause trolls are tall.
Oh,but it was tall…just very fat too which made it look like a football.
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Mellanox was a big presence at SC09. Not only did they have a good-sized booth of their own, but their products were featured or referred to at a significant number of other booths. They also made a major announcement with NVIDIA about a joint effort to provide technology that allows GPUs to talk directly to storage, thus taking load off of the general purpose CPUs and driving performance up even higher.
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Their new HCA will also take some of the overhead inherent in MPI operations off the shoulders of the CPU, which may provide a significant performance boost – perhaps 20-30% – although mileage will definitely vary according to the workload.
Infiniband was a big star at the show, and Mellanox is making hay with their IB harvest (tortured analogy, I know). Fully 37% of the Top500 list use Mellanox-sourced IB gear, and IB is used in more than 63% of the Top500 cores. This list is skewed a bit due to some of the very largest systems (like Roadrunner) being Infiniband-based, but you can't argue that it isn't making big inroads into HPC.
As a technology, Infiniband is pretty sporty, offering speeds of 40Gb/s now with very low latencies of around 200ns. With Mellanox ConnectX technology, latency drops to around 120ns. The future is bright for IB from a performance standpoint; Mellanox (and assumedly others) will be trotting out their new 120Gbit IB switches – pushing performance threefold over today's rates. Our buddy TPM wrote a nice Reg article outlining SC09 Mellanox announcements and futures.
We visited the Mellanox booth to get a tour from Brian Sparks. He showed us a nice demo of GPU vs. CPU computing and also gave us a look at their new 648 port, 120 Gbit switch, which was being used to run the network at the show.
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Globalization – including freer trade, instant communications, and world-wide sourcing/sales capabilities – is reducing entry barriers, reducing costs, and increasing opportunities in virtually every industry. That's great, but at the same time, it's also ratcheting up competition and destroying margins. In macroeconomic terms, we're moving toward 'perfect competition' in many industries. In order to effectively compete and earn more than the minimal margin, companies will need to address their expenses by streamlining operations AND building the top line. They'll do this by taking advantage of increasingly fleeting high-margin opportunities. Mindless cost-cutting can cut expenses, but it doesn't do much to increase sales or sales margins. We see this in our current technology trends with data centers receiving budget to cut costs and increase flexibility via virtualization, for example. This isn't to say that there's no tech spending aimed at increasing the top line; there certainly is. But I'd classify much of this spending as companies tech-enabling their existing processes and extending their current business model span and reach with techie solutions.
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Aston University will soon be welcoming sixth form students from across the country to design, build and launch a hot air balloon.
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The event, which has been organised in association with NAGTY* (National Association for Gifted and Talented Youth), has been designed to provide students with an opportunity to develop and enrich their knowledge of the subjects by participating in a fun and challenging project.
Students will apply for one of four Engineering and Science options (GIS/Multimedia, Electronic Engineering, Mechanical Engineering or Chemistry/Chemical Engineering) and will work in teams of eight to complete the project.
Those students choosing the Chemical Engineering/Chemistry Strand will be involved in providing a suitable fuel source for the balloon. The Electronics students will modify a miniature digital camera to enable it to take a series of photographs during the balloon voyage. Once the balloon has been successfully launched, digital photos will be taken to provide data for the GIS (Geographic Information System) students.
Those who have chosen the Mechanical Engineering option of the project will be involved in designing and making a mini basket to be attached to the balloon. They will also be responsible for calculating the different forces acting on the balloon, to ensure its stability before launching.
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Can Apple Keep Stalling a 6G iPod? Our Views, and Yours
To placate the masses of people hungry for a "video iPod," Apple released the fifth-generation iPod in October 2005, then modestly refreshed it in September of 2006. Though its battery life for video playback has improved, users have never been fully satisfied with the squint-inducing size of its screen - a factor that led Apple to announce a larger, "widescreen iPod" feature for its upcoming iPhone. But as a consequence of iPhone's introduction, many believe that Apple will wait until after the iPhone's June launch to announce a standalone iPod with a similar screen.
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Bob Levens, Contributing Editor, United Kingdom: "I am finding myself feeling rather lukewarm about the prospects of the next iPod. Why? Hopefully Apple will release the 6G iPod ASAP with a touchscreen and slick interface as used on the iPhone. If we have to wait until the iPhone has debuted, then that's going to be a long gap, for those of us living outside of the US, for a new iPod-related product. What will they launch to keep us quiet until then?
As long as the 6G has a decent battery life - maybe even break the mold and have a removable battery - a large sized display, with perhaps an option to increase the size of the text displayed for those who wear reading glasses, then anything else is probably going to be unused by me. The iPod, for me, is a portable music device, and if it will hold my library I am happy."
Jeremy Horwitz, Editor-in-Chief, United States: "When the fifth-generation iPod was introduced, there was a collective 'oh, okay' rather than a 'wow' from the crowd, and I don't think anyone expected that we'd all be stuck with a 2.5-inch screen as our best iPod video option for this long. The continued absence of a replacement has, in my view, comforted and encouraged those who would suggest that Apple's more concerned about marketing than brilliant technology - the sort of perception that can harm a company's goodwill and possibly stunt its growth. I'd partially blame the iPhone for this: my gut feeling is that Apple is so concerned with the impact of new iPod launches on eventual iPhone sales that it's going to risk continued domination of one market just to have a shot at a 1% share of another market. History will decide whether that was a wise or foolish choice; I really hope that Apple will put the horse in front of the cart again and focus its attention on releasing better iPods, sooner.
To be clear, I want a widescreen 6G iPod much more than I want an iPhone. As excited as I am about the iPhone's design, 8GB of storage capacity and a shared phone/media battery mean that it won't be a replacement for my full-sized iPod. Every single person I know who hasn't yet bought an iPod has been holding out for the much-fabled 'widescreen video iPod,' and most of them are not going to buy into the iPhone because it's not priced right for their budgets, or the features aren't what they needed. They're not going to change their minds just because the iPhone's out and the 6G's not: they're going to wait until the right device emerges at the right price, and purchase it. If Microsoft or Sony offers something close to what people are expecting, at the right price, they just might jump on that instead."
L.C. Angell, Senior Editor, United States: "I've never seen a company stretch out a product's life cycle like Apple has done with the fifth-generation iPod. Even though sales haven't exactly slowed to a crawl, it has definitely been Apple's most unexciting iPod for a while now. That said, the 5G iPod becoming long in the tooth was caused by the extended development of the iPhone—Apple didn't want to steal any of the iPhone's thunder by introducing a widescreen iPod beforehand. And Apple still doesn't want to. I wouldn't expect a widescreen video iPod until right before Christmas this year. Apple is going to give the iPhone the spotlight as long as it possibly can before the mob of angry iCustomers come knocking at the door of Apple HQ demanding a phone-less widescreen iPod."
Dennis Lloyd, Publisher, United States: "Although I am very content with my 5G, I wouldn't mind a larger screen for in-flight movies. It will happen and I think it will come some time after the iPhone (June) is unleashed on the public. It's a long overdue update. We've heard the rumors for a very long time - a 5G case with full screen and touch screen controls a la iPhone. It will reinvigorate the iPod economy; accessory makers will have an entirely new device to develop for. Many wanted the 6G yesterday, but I think the wait will be worth it. Hold on to your hats, because it's going to be an exciting ride this year."
Jesse Hollington, Contributing Editor, Canada: "I think it's important to remember that the net-savvy, tech-savvy crowd is generally not representative of the whole iPod user base. I suspect the silent majority of iPod owners are very happy with the current 5G and many may have only the vaguest idea that something else is on the horizon. While Apple has taken a long time between updates here, with the 'Enhanced 5G' being an obvious mid-cycle release intended to buy some extra time, the 5G iPod still seems to be selling quite well, particularly to the crowd that is looking primarily for a music player. Commentary in our own Discussion Forums indicates that there's actually a large number of people who are almost dreading what the 6G iPod may become after seeing the iPhone. People who want a device that is primarily a music player are still very much attracted to the Click Wheel design of the current iPod, and are frequently only looking for a higher-capacity device, not one with extra bells and whistles. I personally suspect that the device that ultimately debuts as the next-generation iPod will be sufficiently revolutionary to justify the length of time since the last update."
Christina Easton, Contributing Editor, United States: "Apple's next move will undoubtably be to introduce a widescreen iPod. I think that it would be in Apple's best interest to offer something comparable to or better than the iPhone for the iPod line, because the iPod line needs to have some kind of feature that positively distinguishes it from the iPhones. I love the current fifth-generation iPod; I keep wanting bigger and better versions, having started with a mini and then moved up to the fifth-generation, 60GB model, I'm ready for the next iPod right now. I would love to have something with better battery life and a less scratchable screen.
Apple really should have announced the widescreen iPod before the iPhone. Everyone has been waiting for a better-screened iPod for a long time, and it won't just bring in new customers. People who have been holding out on replacing old iPods will be buying this one for sure. The only people who will be upset are the people who are buying 5G iPods right now, because they're effectively spending money on old technology."
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I want to upgrade so badly… I've got a 4GB nano, with about 5GB of music and 2GB of video on my computer. I don't want a 5G iPod, because it will soon be bested by the 6G, and the iPhone doesnt appeal to me for a number of reasons (high price, no need for the phone part, currently using T-Mobile, 8GB not enough). I can not wait for Apple to unveil the 6G, hopefully with an iPhone-esque control scheme, and a decent amount of flash memory. Now that I'm used to my flash based Nano, I'm not sure that I could go to an HDD. I've used my friends 5G iPods and the sluggish scrolling and loading bothers me to no end. But honestly, I don't think an early 6G launch would sap that much from iPhone sales, as a lot of people can't go out and buy one now due to their contracts with other service providers. APPLE! Please release the 6G soon.
Posted by tazfan5040 on March 7, 2007 at 6:45 PM (CST)
I have an original 4G iPod Photo (60GB) which I bought as soon as it was announced in 2004. The thing is a behemoth, but it's held up rather well considering the amount of use it's been through. One thing I REALLY need though is gapless playback. I listen to a ton of non-stop mix albums, so I've been contemplating a newer iPod ever since the 5G's were announced. The only thing that's been stopping me is the promise of a "video" iPod, which has been rumored for the last year-and-a-half. So…how much longer should I wait?!
Posted by ele©tro on March 7, 2007 at 7:09 PM (CST)
To amend my previous comment, I'm just not that interested in the iPhone. What I want is that kind of interface for the new iPod, but with at LEAST 80GB of memory, and preferrably 100GB or more. I want a media device first, not a communications device.
Posted by ele©tro on March 7, 2007 at 7:23 PM (CST)
Three key wishes for the 6G: iPhone design and interface, 80+GB HDD, and Bluetooth to connect to cars/headphones/speakers. If THAT 6G video were released tomorrow I would buy it. I don't think I will buy an iPhone. I need a real keyboard to type fast and Blackberry ($75 with 2 year contract) has that. Some of those now have music, although none of the keyboard enabled PDA/phones combos synch with iTunes. My work will supply the Blackberry and/or cell phone so why buy the iPhone?
Hopefully Apple will surprise everyone and release THAT 6G sooner than June. I have $600 in Apple Store Gift Cards that I want to spend on THAT 6G, some speakers, and maybe a new Nano.
I have a 5G 60GB and I love it. I watch video almost daily and listen to music every day. I watch movies and multiple episodes of TV shows I download from iTunes. I also have a 1GB Nano and Nike+. Yes, I know I am obsessed.
Apple, please don't try to force me to buy a phone I don't need. It won't work on me, and it won't work on a lot of other people.
Posted by Chrystopher on March 7, 2007 at 7:57 PM (CST)
Despite my desperation to own a widescreen video iPod, I've bonded remarkably well with my 80Gb 5.5G. It's a lovely experience, but I want a bigger, 16:9 screen. I'm really into video. I watch music videos at work and TV shows on the way home.
For the music-centric crowd—those who are not interested in video—I would hope that Apple retains the current basic form factor. I think the iPod Video should become an additional iPod class, not a replacement for the iPod. Of course I love the iPhone but I'm not a phone person, so would rather a dedicated iPod Video with massive storage (80Gb+).
I think the masses really don't have a clue about video. This is especially true in a country such as mine, Australia, where there is little video content available from the local ITS and most people would never attempt to rip their own video. I still see many 5G users with no album art despite the auto-download feature of iTunes 7 and only a few watching video. From among my friends I have to harangue them to get them to update their iTunes and even to simply drag music that I've carefully prepared for them into iTunes. I think the general public are like this. So in this environment the music-optimised 5G could continue to do well indefinitely.
However, tech-heads like us will detonate if advancements are not made.
Posted by Japester on March 7, 2007 at 9:17 PM (CST)
I upgraded from the 60 GB 5th gen Video iPod to the 80 GB 5.5 gen less than a month ago. On the one hand, I'd love a 6g wide screen video iPod, but for now I'm perfectly content with my 80 GB.
Point is, you'll drive yourself crazy trying to stay in sync with Apple product updates. No matter what iPod you own, it's still the best mp3 player on the market today and will be for a VERY long time. Relax and continu to enjoy your current iPod(s). I'm sure that Apple will release a wide screen iPod soon. But as they've done in the past, they're going to release an update on their own time.
Posted by jcs in USA on March 7, 2007 at 9:52 PM (CST)
My 80 gig video is simply "dummy" storage. It doesnt make people go "wow", it sure doesnt do that for me at least. If a new ipod comes out that actually does more than a simple music player I will probably get it.
Yes we are all craving a widescreen ipod but do we really need it? Yes apple could sell iphones without the phone part but would you pay the premium for it? I think that if apple is to update their ipod they need to come out with something a little more revolutionary than a touchscreen. What am I asking for? I dont know yet but I have faith apple will deliver.
Posted by post_break on March 7, 2007 at 10:27 PM (CST)
I'm one of the few who has zero interest in a widescreen video iPod. Even that will have a picture that is too small for these 47 year-old eyes. I love my 80 GB iPod and hope for something with even more capacity. I travel a lot in my job and have 200+ GB of music (about 800 CDs purchased over the last 20+ years. I need capacity, not video. If I want to watch movies I'll do it on my 7" portable DVD player—this is the smallest acceptable screen for me.
Posted by sallenmd on March 7, 2007 at 11:21 PM (CST)
After consideration, I would say the 6 gig iPod is not needed. Apple is clearly headed in the home entertainment biz, and the iPod has reached critical mass, which may have lead Steve-o to make the, "we don't need DRM" proclamation.
Posted by Don Trammell on March 8, 2007 at 12:12 AM (CST)
"To be clear, I want a widescreen 6G iPod much more than I want an iPhone."
Jeremy's hit the nail on the head, again. However, Apple seems more interested in iPhones and smaller iPods than it does in its HDD products. I fear we'll be waiting some time.
Posted by drevo_uk in UK on March 8, 2007 at 2:58 AM (CST)
alot of opinions have been shared here. and i think that the group of people here who have shared their opinions are a pretty good representation of the rest of the world. maybe apple should start looking at ilounge.com.
Posted by zackwok on March 8, 2007 at 3:34 AM (CST)
I think along similar lines - I have never been excited about watching videos/movies on a 2•5 inch screen. Also, with the need to wear reading glasses, the size of the text means I usually have to grab a pair when I'm navigating the menu. The latest addition of the large letter when scrolling playlists quickly has helped.
Surely I am not alone in thinking that some option to increase the font size would help a large group of iPod users - those who wear glasses for reading only?
Posted by Bob Levens in UK on March 8, 2007 at 5:39 AM (CST)
I believe that as Apple lets the 5G IPOD model age without update they risk defection of user's to other brands. The 5G just feels old now. I own a 5G, but if it goes bad, I am going to look at the new models from Creative, Samsung, and others.
Sure I want a 6G, but I am not willing to go 5 months without a music/video source just to have the way to late 6G ipod
Posted by Jav Atar on March 8, 2007 at 6:06 AM (CST)
I think Apple is making a mistake with the iPhone strategy. The market for Cingular is so much more limited than that of the the iPod that the iPod should be first and foremost. For example, here in Central Wisconsin, I can not get Cingular. I can also tell you that I would NEVER switch cell carriers based on the availability of a device that barely holds as much as a Nano and requires a two year cell contract. Come on Apple, realize what your core base is and go after it. If you want to develop a phone, fine. But don't let your main line falter. Many of us are waiting for new innovations in music and video players. Hell, I'd settle for a simple firmware update to my 4G that would allow gapless playback….for now!
Posted by JWj on March 8, 2007 at 8:25 AM (CST)
I just hope that the widescreen iPod has a true widescreen! The screen on the iPhone has an aspect ratio of 1.5:1, which barely counts as widescreen at all. The widescreen iPod should either have a 16:9 (1.78:1) screen, or preferably a 2:1 screen, which is between the common 1.85:1 and 2.4:1 theatrical aspect ratios. 1.85:1 and 16:9 content will playback with small black pillar bars down the sides, whille 2.4:1 content will have very thin letterboxing bars top and bottom. A 2:1 screen would minimise image cropping for people who prefer watching content pan and scan.
Posted by ShowsOn in South Australia, AUSTRALIA on March 8, 2007 at 8:26 AM (CST)
ShowsOn makes an excellent point. When the iPhone was announced I sat back, content with the obvious vision of what the 6G would be based on. When I heard that it wasn't true 16:9, I got worried. It also answered a nagging question: if "Pirates of the Caribbean" were a widescreen movie, then why did Steve have to double-tap the screen to see it in "widescreen"?
I imagine that the speaker in the top and the button at the bottom rob the iPhone of some faceplate real estate. I'll be quite disappointed if they don't make it 16:9 for the iPod, although I have to say that most 16:9 TV content looks surprisingly natural (and easier to see) when I turn off the widescreen mode on my 5.5G. Still, a video iPod implies a proper widescreen aspect ratio.
Posted by Japester on March 8, 2007 at 8:59 AM (CST)
I'd love to buy a 6G iPod that has everything the iPhone has except the phone. The idea of wireless internet would be icing on the cake for me.
But I fear Apple might want to keep enough separation between the two that it doesn't include as much in the iPod. I too have lots of Apple gift cards that are waiting for the new iPod. I have a 3G that is still going strong, so music alone won't make me buy a new one. The wide screen for movies and photos, plus wireless connectivity will be the main reason I upgrade.
Posted by howdesign on March 8, 2007 at 9:05 AM (CST)
I have the 5.5G 80GB iPod and don't have a single video/movie/TV episode loaded on it, nor do I intend to use it for that purpose. I want a music-centric player only. I have no intention of buying the iPhone as I don't intend to switch cell carriers just to have the opportunity to pay $600 plus monthly fees for a phone (I'm not the type of person who feels compelled to have my cell phone surgically implanted to my left ear. Give me the basics on a phone and text messaging and I'm good with that). I would love to see a 100+GB iPod at some point in the near future. Having said all of this, I don't know if I'm in the "mainstream" of where everyone else stands on the iPod/vPod/iPhone issue or if I'm somewhere on the fringe. My personal hope is that Apple will keep a music-centric player and introduce the vPod as a seperate product line, but based on past product introductions, that doesn't seem to be the case. Only time will tell.
Posted by Proud Liberal on March 8, 2007 at 10:00 AM (CST)
I would like to see something aimed at the music addicts amongst us ... 100GB minimum capacity (I have almost 90GB, and as a collector, it continues to grow), customizable EQ settings, crossfade features like you can set in iTunes playback, the iTunes album cover interface, etc. Rather than add new applications to the iPod, let's add to what's already there and make our music even more fun.
The widescreen, video capabilities should be like they are now, simply icing on the cake. The iPod is to me a music device, and should stay that way.
Posted by Polish_iPod on March 8, 2007 at 10:08 AM (CST)
If you look at basic trends in hard drive growth and compare that to hard drive growth in iPods I think it's completely reasonable to expect a big increase in hard drive capacity in the 6G iPod. In fact, basic extrapolation suggests hard drive technology could support a 1 terabyte iPod within 3 years! Obviously there are other considerations that affect this but it's tantalizing to think about.
The analysis behind this is here: http://www.libraryhouse.net/blog/2007/03/08/store-wars/
Posted by Scott E on March 8, 2007 at 10:09 AM (CST)
I agree with most of you.
Take the iPhone, leave the iPhone part out (and maybe the battery consumming wi-fi), put a 100Gb memory (I don't care if its flash based or a hard drive, the cheaper the better) in it and I will be on the row for one.
I curently have a 6 Gb iPod Mini and I love it, although I definetily need more space. I have been waiting for a new update on the bigger line of iPods to get one.
I know lot of people who think as I do.
Posted by velascomike on March 8, 2007 at 10:51 AM (CST)
I own/owned a 4G, 5G, 1G Nano and 2G Nano. I take care of my iPods, but have had nothing but trouble with the HDD models. I am on my 5th 5G and that was after 6 4Gs. The flash based iPods have been trouble free for me. That said, I understand the use of the flash memory in the iPhone, but the limited space on a device that is supposed to store videos makes no sense. That, in my opinion, makes the iPhone less than desirable. Cingular/AT&T I feel is a drawback as well. In the Chicago area, most people I know with the service have nothing but trouble. I cannot stand talking to someone on a Cingluar connection because it is just plain bad.
As for a 6G iPod, widescreen would be nice, but high capacity (80GB+), flash based is just as important. Apple, in their own ads, shows an iPod being used as a dance accessory. I do not think anyone would dare try that with a HDD based iPod if they wanted it to survive another day. I think the 6G will be a big hit, but if Apple wants to maintain state of the art status, the 6G needs to have something more. It has to have an "I did not see that coming" feature similar to the widescreen on the iPhone.
Posted by PearlMikeJam on March 8, 2007 at 11:19 AM (CST)
I don't have any interest in an iPhone either. the longer the introduction goes on the less enthusiasm I sense for it in the people around me. At the introduction, several friends and co-workers vowed they were going to be first in line in June. Now after having time to think about it most of them are lukewarm at best.
I want a 6G device with 80Gigs+, an eye-popping screen and 12+ hrs of battery life with at least 6 hrs for video playback. I want it to be Apple TV conjoined and to be able to act as a DVR. Also, I want kick a—sound, because music is still the most important aspect of the iPod. I will listen music at least 10-100x more time than video. I also want it to act as a real photo repository for my digicam. I have a 4G photo iPod and it sucks for this purpose, because the battery dies after transferring 100 or so pictures.
Ideally, Apple would have done the 6G announcement first and iPhone closer to its availability. I believe they didn't because they want 6G to be flash-based and high capacity. Watching the flash market tells me the flash prices are dropping like a rock and by this summer high cap flash will be a commercial reality. I believe that's why we are getting a late intro on 6G. I look for something similar to the iPhone form factor with a UI that favors audio/video playback to differentiate it from iPhone. Price $249-499 for caps of 32-128 G.
Posted by audioguyBOB on March 8, 2007 at 2:24 PM (CST)
"They're not going to change their minds just because the iPhone's out and the 6G's not: they're going to wait until the right device emerges at the right price, and purchase it. If Microsoft or Sony offers something close to what people are expecting, at the right price, they just might jump on that instead."-Jeremy
Apple really should have announced the widescreen iPod before the iPhone - Christina
Nail on the Head
Apple essentially came out and said "Look at all the cool things we can put into an iPod - now please contiue to buy our old outdated 5.5G."
I have the 20GB 4g - its now very tempermental. I need a new iPod NOW - but why would I buy one when I know what's possible.
I truly hope people are mistaken about a new iPod not coming out until after the iPhone. That would be nearly 2 years without significant upgrades. How can apple claim to be cutting edge but offer nothing new for 2 years.
I am waiting on purchasing a new iPod and new MacBook. If Apple waits longer than June, or offers something less than what they have shown is possible with the iPhone, I'm done. I will then turn to Microsoft or Sony for both my music player and laptop. Why deal with a company who is not willing to advance or listen to the desires of it customers?
Posted by pMad on March 8, 2007 at 2:25 PM (CST)
Cheeezzzzzeeee!!!!!! What whiners. Yea, I would like a $100 iPod nGeneration, same as a nano in size, 250 gig memory, 24 hour battery life, 5 channel surround sound and a holographic viewscreen (oh yea, in HD please) !!!!!! LOL :-)
And speaking of being that lucky, what are your winning LOTTO numbers today????? :-)
Back in the real world, a music player is for playing music. If you add a big screen, its no longer a nice size and costs more too. Rather than wishing for an iPod "everything" model, how about a modular iPod that allows everyone to be happy. ?????
How about these options?
A cheaper 8 gig nano.
An iPod 5gen with a thin screen that snaps on to the back of the iPod for video watching but disconnects for space saving??? That way you get the best of both worlds.
Actually, I believe there are two products that fit this bill already on the market. One is a large screen that the iPod plugs into and sits on the back of the iPod. The other is a set of thin glasses that plug into the iPod for a tv sized screen that appears to sit in front of you but you can look over the glasses (thin size) for walking around or talking.
So, what are you guys waiting for??
Oh yea, I need a plug-in fold out solar cell battery charger so I can recharge my iPod anywhere in the world at any time. :-)
Posted by eldernorm on March 8, 2007 at 3:34 PM (CST)
First of all, Apple is great because every decision they make is carefully thought out with the end user in mind. Having said that, i think that Apple has been waiting for some key technological developments before they release their 6G ipod.
In December 06, Toshiba announced the creation of the first 100GB 1.8: http://news.com.com/2300-1041-6141008.html You gotta believe that Apple has already started buying these up with the intention of smacking them into a 6G ipod with a sleek iphone form factor. It will look like a PSP, but without the game buttons.
But Jobs knows that in order for iphone to succeed, there can't be any hint of a similar device stealing its thunder. It doesnt matter if there are people waiting for 6G that are uninterested in the iphone. As far as Jeremy's observations, he is right on. Apple is possibly making a mistake by not upgrading to 6G. But its a chance Apple is willing to take. 1% of the cell phone market is a ridiculous amount of money.
Real ipod fans will wait because they are not seriously looking at the clunky Archos or the itunes-incompatible Zune. But watch out. If Sony releases a PSP with a 100GB hard drive that plays nice with itunes, I for one will be on board with that. I just want the best video experience possible. I prefer to get it from Apple, so the 6G widescreen (with 16x9) better be out soon.
Posted by BGill on March 8, 2007 at 3:54 PM (CST)
Here is one option.
and here is the other.
Posted by eldernorm on March 8, 2007 at 4:18 PM (CST)
Put me in with the audio-only crowd. The current 5G display and interface are fine for my purposes. I have no interest in watching videos on a handheld device and not much more interest in a $400-$500 mobile phone. More capacity, better fidelity—that's all I want.
Maybe it's time to bifurcate (or trifurcate) the iPod line:
audio only, audio-video, iPhone.
Posted by orgel in Falls Church, VA on March 8, 2007 at 4:36 PM (CST)
"Maybe it's time to bifurcate (or trifurcate) the iPod line:
audio only, audio-video, iPhone."
Posted by orgel
I agree totally with orgel. I'm an audio only kind guy and my ideal ipod would be an aluminum cased (ala the Nano) device with some real capacity, 30G, 80/100G. Flash based would be nice but dose not seem feasible at the moment. I like carrying my hole library around with me, so the smaller Nanos are a deal breaker.
I think a AV ipod would definitely find a market, and the iphone has a market, but I think it gets smaller every day. Even my luddite friends say that the current ipods seem to be stale but say that an AV ipod or the iphone is way too much and have started looking at others for innovation.
Posted by Toolman on March 9, 2007 at 2:34 AM (CST)
I still have a 3G iPod that is on its last legs… and I bought it right before the debut of the 4G iPod Photo, so I am definitely waiting until the 6G comes out before I upgrade. My poor 3G is relegated to use in the car where it can run on life support (i.e. the car charger), and as a stop gap I bought a 2G Shuffle. I have no plans to buy the iPhone for several reasons: a) I don't want to switch to Cingular or AT&T or whatever it is, and b) even though I'm using a Shuffle currently, there's no way I want my main iPod to have such ridiculously small HD space. I've filled my 15GB on my 3G, and am ready to step up to 80 or 100 or whatever will be in the 6G. The wait is excruciating!
Posted by ChuckG72 on March 9, 2007 at 9:03 AM (CST)
My 4G died not long before the iphone introduction. Now I must endure the hardship of a lowly shuffle as the wait for the beautiful new 6G stretches on.
Even with this $100 apple store gift certificate burning a hole in my pocket, I will not settle for the 5G!
Posted by angelia on March 9, 2007 at 3:08 PM (CST)
I was one of those people that dreaded the 6G after seeing the iphone. I've had 11 ipods in my lifetime, and save for battery life, and scratchability, I'm perfectly happy with my 80GB video. I think that the wide/touch screen would be a fun feature, but I would never give up the click wheel. I would rather convert my library back from lossless to mp3 and buy a nano than have to pull my ipod out of my pocket every time I do something. I see that "finger fling" feature that the iphone has getting really annoying, really fast. I think that the added height would be a problem too, sometimes making quick maneuvers a two-handed job. Pretty much like everyone else said, give me a 150GB HDD 5G ipod, with better battery life and an aluminum enclosure, and I would be a happy camper.
Posted by thewho61 on March 9, 2007 at 3:21 PM (CST)
Little OT, but I saw your screen name & thought I'd share w/you that I saw The Who last night at the Verizon Center in DC. All I can say is WOW! Absolutely amazing show!
Posted by Proud Liberal on March 9, 2007 at 3:29 PM (CST)
A lot of people seem to be looking forward to a touchscreen interface. For me, an interface without tactile feedback is a step backwards. Imagine having to see, rather than simply feel, the device in order to adjust volume, skip to next track, etc. Also, a lot of the iPhone-style interface looks like it would take 2 hands. Imagine "pinching" or "flinging" with only one hand.
Posted by gestep on March 10, 2007 at 1:50 PM (CST)
In the past, I've watched intently for the next big thing in the iPod line. I've bought 5 so far - everything from the shuffle to the 5.5 80 gig. This time, I'm sitting out.
I'll always use my iPod first and foremost as a music device. I watch videos occasionally, mostly while waiting for or on a plane. A bigger screen or touch controls beyond the click wheel just don't interest me.
Assuming there are hundreds of thousands of "me", Apple needs to move to a full featured video device to capture new customers.
I suspect the delay is cultural as much as it is technical. By staying focused on music, Apple has hit home runs with almost every device. Going to general entertainment and telephony is a sea change for them. I hope they get it right.
Posted by Aceon6 in New England, USA on March 10, 2007 at 4:34 PM (CST)
pMad wrote: "I will then turn to Microsoft or Sony for both my music player and laptop."
Obviously you can't please anyone, but many folks would prefer a lowly 4G or 3G to the Zune, regardless of the lack of video playback. I know I would. So Apple can keep its 5G going for as long as they want as far as I'm concerned.
I can understand someone 'turning to' Sony, but Microsoft? People are trying to get *away* from MS, not closer. Oh, well, to each his own.
I agree with Orgel, too: a separate line of widescreen iPods is a better option than completely phasing out the 5G.
Posted by Pikemann_Urge on March 11, 2007 at 7:00 AM (CDT)
I have a 20 gig iPod, bought the first day they came out. It's been a reliable music/Podcast source and external disk drive all this time.
I haven't felt the need to get a 5G iPod, as video can't be watched while walking, and shouldn't be watched while I work on other things. Video would only be interesting if video iPods could be filled with the contents of theater length DVDs that could be played on TVs or monitors at high resolution (that's what's wrong with Apple TV).
I'm pretty careful with my iPod, as the shock from dropping is not good to a hard disk.
What I'd really like in a new iPod is a much bigger (or longer lasting) battery, and 20 to 30 gigs of solid state storage (like the Nanos but much more capacity) for music and data. I would have the capacity of my old iPod, but with much more shock resistance.
Posted by FloydC on March 11, 2007 at 4:37 PM (CDT)
Why is everyone so down on Apple lately? I still love my iPod (5G) and I'm excited about the 6G. To me, the iPod has gotten better with every genteration. Keep it up Apple. You're in no danger of losing me as a customer.
Posted by urbanslaughter on March 12, 2007 at 11:16 AM (CDT)
I agree with urbanslaughter, I think apple is doing an awesome job! They're constantly coming out with new products to attract new customers and to keep current customers happy and interested. I too have a fifth generation and I couldn't be happier with it!
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I have an older 4GB iPod mini. I am ready for an upgrade, but hesitate to buy a new one if the 6G are coming out soon. I wish Apple would announce a date.
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First Qantas, now Soul Patts for Carnegie
PUBLISHED: 27 Nov 2012 00:05:00 | UPDATED: 28 Nov 2012 07:53:53PUBLISHED: 27 Nov 2012 PRINT EDITION: 27 Nov 2012Australian management treats shareholders as hostile, says Mark Carnegie. Photo: Louie Douvis
James Chessell and Michael Hobbs
Mark Carnegie has described his move on investment house Washington H. Soul Pattinson as an "experiment in shareholder activism", arguing that a series of underperforming companies are vulnerable to attack from opportunistic investors.
The investment banker and venture capitalist said he had established a $130 million Companion Fund to take aim at a "whole series of boards and management" suffering from "complacency" in Australia.
"I am far happier by temperament playing the attacker role," he told The Australian Financial Review yesterday. "My investors have told me that if I can prove that shareholder activism works then they will give me more money."
The investment banker and venture capitalist yesterday secured an option to take a $30 million stake in Soul Patts from fund manager Perpetual Investments if he can achieve certain performance hurdles aimed at unlocking Soul Patts' cross holding with building materials company Brickworks within the next two years.
Carnegie's Eye also on Qantas
The 50-year-old is also weighing up a move on Qantas Airways along with former executives Geoff Dixon and Peter Gregg after taking a 1.5 per cent stake in the national carrier through an equity swap with investment bank Credit Suisse.
Mr Carnegie would not comment on the Qantas stake, which has been confirmed by the Financial Review, but did refer to his role as adviser to the Qantas board in 2007 during the controversial takeover bid by the Macquarie-backed Airline Partners Australia consortium pitched at $5.45 a share. Qantas shares closed at $1.31 yesterday, about half the book value signed off by the airline's board.
"I'm going to reserve all my rights in terms of being anonymous in this particular case," Mr Carnegie said. "But it's fair to say that I advised the board to sell at $5.45 and the last I checked the current share price was less than $5.45 and there is some price below $5.45 where I think the thing is compelling value. Just when and where that is I'm not going to discuss."
The Qantas consortium is yet to gain sufficient support from other shareholders for a plan that is believed to include the float of Jetstar's Asian franchises and the partial sale or float of Qantas Frequent Flyer. Mr Carnegie had dinner last night with Mr Dixon and ad man John Singleton at The Bellevue Hotel, the east Sydney pub owned by the trio.
Soul Patts plans Short on detail
Mr Carnegie's plans for Soul Patts, which is controlled by the Millner family, are also short on detail. Perpetual has been trying to unlock the company's cross shareholdering with Brickworks with no success for more than year. In a statement released yesterday, Perpetual claimed the structure "locks up substantial value that could be released" and "does not meet appropriate corporate governance practice".
Mr Carnegie's firm, MH Carnegie & Co, will seek to unlock the shareholding but he indicated he and legal adviser Robert Mangioni could take the matter further. "Watch this space," he said.
It is believed Mr Carnegie's Companion Fund is backed by high profile investors including Future Fund chairman David Gonski, lawyer Danny Gilbert, Mr Singleton and partners of Hellman & Friedman, the private equity firm where Mr Carnegie once worked.
Robert Millner is the chairman of Soul Patts and Brickworks. The veteran investor is expected to defend the cross shareholding once again at Brickworks' annual meeting in Sydney today. Mr Millner argues the cross-shareholding prevents either company from being acquired from an opportunistic predator and provides shareholders with a broader exposure of assets through the economic cycle.
Shareholder activism unusual in Australia
Shareholder activism is relatively undeveloped in Australia compared with the United States, where it is common for aggressive investors to agitate for changes to board or management strategy. However, recent examples, such as private equity firm PEP's bid for services and coathanger group Spotless (which was backed by shareholders) and a revolt against the board of paper maker and distribution group Paperlinx, suggest it is becoming more common in Australia.
Mr Carnegie said his interest was piqued after a report by management consultants McKinsey that found "Australia's worst companies perform twice as badly as Germany's worst companies" due to a poorer standard of management. He also cites reports by economist John Kay on the short-termism of British equity markets.
"I am only here for the money. There is no prize for silver in this particular competition," he said.
"I think [the Companion Fund] could be a real business and we could do it with scale.
"I think there's a whole raft of Australian boards and managements that now need to deal with shareholders. I would think when someone has made an investment, finding out what they want to do is an important part of what management and board should do, but it seems to be a prevailing view to treat shareholders as hostile."
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Tide turns against TSA: Groping over clothing is a misdemeanor, searches under clothing are felonies
Steve Watson
Wednesday, Nov 18th, 2010
The district attorney's office in San Mateo County, California has promised to follow up any complaints of over the top TSA pat-downs with prosecutions on the charge of sexual battery, reports ABC 7 News.
"The case would be reviewed and if we could prove the elements of it, that it was inappropriately done with a sexual or lewd intent, that person would be prosecuted," DA Steve Wagstaffe told reporters.
"If it is skin to skin, if someone were to take their hand and put it underneath somebody's blouse and touch someone inappropriately and go skin to skin, that's a felony, and if it's done simply over the clothing, according to California law, that's a misdemeanor," Wagstaffe added.
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This example should be followed by a lawmakers across the country particularly in wake of the scores of reports of TSA agents literally groping passengers in full public view, and even putting their hands down men's pants [1] and up women's skirts [2].
These cases are far from being isolated incidents, they are now standard procedure.
Highlighting another example of such grossly invasive activity, frequent flier radio host Owen J.J. Stone appeared on the Alex Jones Show yesterday, describing how a TSA agent groped inside his pants:
As we highlighted in our feature article today, the TSA has already been hit with a number of lawsuits [3] as the revolt against Big Sis, naked body scanners, and invasive groping measures explodes.
In one case, a young woman who had her blouse pulled down in full public view by TSA goons was subjected to severe humiliation as the agents proceeded to laugh and joke about her exposed breasts. [4]
As the issue becomes more and more widespread, many more are speaking out against the tyranny now being implemented within airports.
Former New Mexico Governor Gary Johnson joined the chorus of dissenters recently, appearing on Freedom Watch to denounce the massive ramp up of security measures in airports.
"I think abolishing the TSA is something that absolutely ought to be looked into, and it just seems to me that there are some real entrepreneurial opportunities here to offer a less intrusive and more safe of doing all of this." Johnson said.
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The future must've looked rosy for Megara when she first married Heracles. Her hubby was already a famous hero and was sure to take over the throne of Thebes from her father, Creon. When Hera makes Heracles go crazy and kill their kids, though, Megara's pretty little life totally falls apart. Her husband goes off to perform his Twelve Labors and when he returns, triumphant, Heracles marries her off to his nephew/lover Iolaus. Wow, Greek mythology is kind of messed up sometimes. Can you really just give a spouse away like that?
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