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Can You Make Money with Project Payday?
This is the last scheduled post we'll be doing with Project Payday. This post will provide you with an in-depth look at the process Cheryl went through in order to make money with the program. Can you make money with Project Payday? Absolutely. Is it worth the trouble? Well, keep reading.
Making Money with Project Payday
As a follow up to my prior story about Project PayDay (PPD), I wanted to let others know about the process. I did make money, but it wasn't much, and it wasn't easy.
On January 7th I paid $34.95 to PPD for access to their program. Since this money was reimbursed by I've Tried That, it will not be included in my final total.
On the evening of January 7th, after reading the materials provided by PPD, I decided to do a few things to protect myself. First, I created a e-mail address just for the purpose of PPD. I then registered with Rememberthemilk.com to keep track of my offers, opened a spreadsheet to keep track of my transactions, and then registered and logged in to a forum recommended by PPD. I also made sure my PayPal plugin was up to date. Now, I was ready to start making money right away.
Going Green
I went into a forum called "Paying for Referrals" and started clicking links. There were hundreds of them, all claiming they helped newbies, or offering bonus payouts, or the biggest payouts. I wasn't sure where to start, so I picked a name that sounded friendly. I sent her a private message and offered to "go green" for her. While I waited for her response I found another buyer who would pay bonuses on any referrals after the first one. I also sent a private message to her, picking two of her sites.
In the meantime, the first buyer had responded with a referral link and instructions on how to confirm the trade agreement between us. She offered very explicit instructions on how to go green as quickly as possible. It is a complicated dance of emptying the cache in your browser, waiting 5 minutes or more once the offer is completed, etc. I took the referral link, signed in, completed an offer and "went green" within an hour. I reported back to her that I was green, and she confirmed this, but informed me that the site was "pay on approval" which meant she wouldn't pay me until the site approved her gift, which would take 3-4 days. She had a good trade rating, so I was irritated, but not overly concerned.
The second buyer responded and gave me links to both of the sites that I had requested for her. I logged in to the first one and completed an offer within minutes. I reported back to her right away, but she informed me that this was a "one credit" site, meaning that I had to complete one full credit worth of offers before I would be green. The offer I had completed was a one-third credit, so I still needed to do two-thirds more credits worth of offers to go green.
The site had 50 or so offers on it, and most of them either (1) cost more than I was making on the trade or (2) were less than one-quarter of a credit. I was frustrated, but completed three offers on one site, and two on the other by 10 p.m. that night.
Unfortunately, in the world of trading, most "instant credit" offers don't credit instantly to your account (and some never credit at all). By the time I logged off at 11 p.m., I had still not greened on either site for the second buyer, and the first buyer wouldn't be paying me for 3-4 days. Not counting the PPD program fee, I had spent $18.89 in offers and made exactly $0.00.
The site went green overnight, so I sent a private message to the buyer and she sent me payment of $35.00 (less PayPal's take of $1.32). I was finally in the black, to the tune of $14.79. For 5 hours work the night before, I had made a whopping $2.96 per hour.
The $68.00 Headache.
I completed the rest of the offers for that buyer on the second site, and received payment for that site and the original site, as well as for a third buyer during the weekend. By Sunday, January 11th I had paid out $24.88 in offers, been paid $90.00, and paid $3.42 in PayPal commissions, which meant I'd cleared $61.70 from Thursday to Sunday. Only I hadn't.
When I logged in Sunday morning, my PayPal balance was $0.00. How could this be?
I noticed a charge from a jewelry company for $68.00 that hadn't been there before. I checked the name of the company against my notes in Remember the Milk and looked at the terms and conditions. According to those terms, I would pay $9.00 for a sample piece of jewelry, which would arrive in 10-14 days. If I liked it (or did not cancel), they would send me another two pieces in about 14 days from the initial order all for the low, low price of $68.00 per month. I had copied and pasted these terms to the notes section of the calendar. Sure enough, I had only placed the original order just four days prior.
Monday morning I called the company and canceled the order, asking them to refund my money immediately. They did, but only the original $9.00 I spent on the introductory piece. This credited 3 days later. When I called to find out where my $68.00 refund was, I was told that the second shipment had already gone out (I hadn't received the first shipment yet!) and I needed to return it in order to get the refund. The introductory piece arrived that day, and the second shipment a few days later.
In the meantime I had completed another $3.95 worth of offers, received a $25 payment less the PayPal commission of $1.03. My grand total after seven days work? $22.72. Not exactly stellar income.
During the week I was also doing the second part of the job: canceling all of those offers. Since I had kept pretty meticulous records, this was rather simple. When completing an offer, I would copy and paste ALL of the terms and conditions into the note portion of Remember the Milk, then set a reminder for 1-2 days before the drop dead date to call and cancel the offer before those "monthly membership fees" kicked in. The vast majority of those offers were very easy to cancel. All I had to do was call the toll free number during the regular business hours and the operator would cancel and give me a cancellation confirmation.
So far, no additional charges have appeared on any of the accounts used to complete the offers. And what about the jewelry charge? I finally got a refund, a full 33 days after they charged my account.
The Bottom Line
Grand total earned: $84.42.
I also got over 1,500 spam e-mails and more than 30 phone calls from the companies that I had placed orders through. The e-mail I set up for this purpose now gets over 400 spam e-mails per day.
So can you make money with PPD? Yes, but I'm convinced you can't do it with Method 1.
You definitely can't make money through PPD without thorough record-keeping and an excellent reminder system. Even with those things, some of the offer programs do not abide by their own terms and conditions. You end up doing business with companies like Google Profit System and Free Government Grants (both programs I've Tried That has railed against in the past month). Just today on the forums I read a story about someone who signed up for a trial offer and had the full $300+ taken from his account just days later. His mortgage payment and his car payment both bounced, and the company's only response was that it was a computer glitch and they would refund the money. Meanwhile, this man has late fees and returned check fees to pay.
PPD's trade program is risky business. From what I've seen, it doesn't seem to be worth the cost.
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Cheryl is a writer located in Southwest Florida. She's been great to work with. Be sure to send some love and check out her blog at: http://www.cliopatra.net/
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28 Comments
Its true, completing offers is tedious, but once you get use to it, it becomes a easy task. The reason being is because you'll be working towards Method 2 which the core of Project Payday or Freebie trading in essence. I've already made over $280 and broke even with my investment in it.
It's unfortunate that it seems Project Payday is only marketing their site and the Fast Fifty and not the reality aspect of it.
There are many forums devoted to Freebie Trading and many do make a steady income from it.
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Hi I just wanted to give my experience with PPD. Yes the Fast First 50 is too much work and trouble! Signing up for offers, cancelling offers, exposing your credit or debit card info…I will pass. Unfortunately for the FFF program after 8+ offers completed, spending at total of about $17.00 and NOT getting the credit for many of them, I decided this was not for me. I did it only because I wanted the $50.00 to invest in the part of the program that I know works. The referral program! Again as with anything you have to be careful HOW you get the referrals. But I have been working a few hours a day and I have gotten a pretty good conversion. I need a better landing page so that is what my next step is. I have already invested time and so I want to give it a full month's worth of effort.
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I signed up with Project Pay Day this past May. I did have some difficulties going green at first however, I do think a lot of it was because I had no prior experience with any of it. I carefully chose the offers I would use to go green, copy and pasted the terms and conditons as well as wrote down the date I completed the offer and the date I needed to cancel it by with the number I would need to call. I actually enjoyed the opportunity to find a cheap deal and try out these offers with out committing to them. I really enjoyed the offers that I could get that my kids would (and did) enjoy, things I would have spent money on at the store anyway. I spent $20.00 and was paid the $50. So for the little bit of time I spent learning about IFWs I got at least $20 worth of free stuff (when you take the expenses out of the pay) and still made $30. I did come to the same issue for step 2 though as mentioned earlier. I really didn't see anything else that I wanted and I would have had to spend 20-25 just to make enough to cover the cost. I stopped but recently have been looking back into it because of the fact that people are interested in making even $20 in a day. With the economy the way it is, these are desperate times and to be honest $30 extra dollars is $30 extra dollars. I do think that this article is informative but incredibly out dated. I was given very detailed instructions on how to do the Fast Track Fifty including prevenative measures to avoid my personal email to be bogged down with spam. I didn't once get tons of calls. Just like in any work at home opportunity, it does take work. I would not call Project Pay Day a scam by any means, it does pay fairly quickly. I would love to hear more experiences with the other areas of PPD like the $1.50 lead deal.
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I signed up long ago and did that fast $50 thing, but it never worked. But now I also see they have $1.50 per lead deal and so I was wondering if anyone had any experience with that? At least I'm not paying out any money ahead of time.
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Just a quick note to thank you for your article. I went to Craigslist today and stumbled onto this company. It sounded "too good to be true" so I am doing some extra research.
Your experience, however, (albeit years back) is enough to convince me not to waste my time so — many thanks!
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I joined PPD a couple of days ago. Did the "Fast 50″ and got the $50 deposited in my PayPal acct as promised. Thing is I had to spend $30 to complete the offers and my phone has already started ringing with telemarketers and my inbox has started filling with scam offers. definitely not worth the $20 I made for 8 hours of work.
So today is the day after receiving the $50 and I've gone to the site to complete more offers and have found that all of them left would cost me well over the fee that I would earn to "Go Green" and they all seem to be for crap that I would never use.
Last thing… thought I'd better get cracking on canceling those orders from 2 days ago… None of them are making it easy and I am pretty sure they are going to try and scam my debit card so I'm heading to the bank to cancel it.
In short… Ridiculous amount of time for very little return and I've exposed myself to recurring charges and fraud plus an unending torrent of calls and junk emails.
Last but not least… and a little embarrassing: When I was placing the orders the first night, my bank (Chase) put a fraud hold on my card and when I called them to ask why they said it was because my orders where with companies that they associated with fraudulent charges. Of course I told them I knew what I was doing and they took off the hold so I could complete my "Green". Should have listened because I've talked with Hydroxatone twice trying to cancel and they keep calling back trying to get me on tape to verify my address and to say it's okay to ship. Even though they have told me twice it has already been shipped! Why would they want to verify my address if it's already been shipped? BTW: My banker today told me it was the Hydroxatone order that caused Chase to put a hold on my card.
Just a lesson: If the bank, who has nothing to lose if I get scammed, says it's a bad idea, then it's probably a bad idea.
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I signed up yesterday and I am already having second thoughts. I have yet to receive a login or password so I can go to the site. I am pretty use to scams and have been scammed several times on the internet. Being honest is not the best practice to make money for sure. I will cancel my membership just as soon as i can get loged in which i am thinking at this time might not happen at all.
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Unfortunately I signed up for this last night, but thankfully did NOT do any of the offers. My first thought was that "Oh, I sign up for the offer & then get others to sign up for the offer" or something like that. Guess I will try to change my email on their site to a spam address before I cancel. Thanks for your articles & I guess the lesson learned is to enter "xxxxxx program scam" in the Google search box BEFORE I sign up. Kind of funny, but I think the only reason the participants aren't arrested for wire fraud is because the companies making the offers are too busy committing mail fraud!
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I just canceled PPD and now I can breathe easier. I searched them with the BBB in my area and they didn't have any listings. I should have researched this last night when I signed up. The two offers I signed up for in order to become VIP I'm going to keep as they're book clubs and I love to read – as for the rest – the time consuming "paid" surveys which I wasted a whole hour on and earned only a dollar… I could instead have written out my grocery list or cleaned.. or gone running. I do work full-time and I fairly like my job. I get great money but I was looking for something more to pay off debt- without the need of driving to a second job. I guess next time I'll do my homework before I sign up for a scam. Now to set up filters for my email because stupid me used my main email address for everything. :/
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You may add me to that roster of lollipops falling for the PPD online wallet. As I foolishly tried to pick their wallet they almost skillfully picked mine. Starting with Netflicks to get signed up, which I may keep because I actually like the service. I did try a few other offers, that I will cancel today. Apart from that no harm no foul thus far. What I will say is that these online money making schemes are all one in the same. I've found them all to be a fruad. They promise painless methods toward making either an average joe income or some ridiculous six figure bank roll. In either case its never what they portray iniatially. You will have to pull your own teeth to get anywhere with it. And lets not forget sacrificing the morals you actually had before starting.
Cunning and deception is often associated with earning money and when you no longer care what unsatiable methods you're invited to employ via earning that income, you have to stop and think… Is the few measly bucks I earn worth my conscience? That's a question for those who still have one.
Innocence is priceless, you can't buy it. That is the same gem that makes children so adorable in our eye's~
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Today I decided to take a rest from PPD because there's another catch to this that I learned the hard way… you're only allowed to work from your own private internet connection. I've been doing this since August 2011, so I'm pretty new. So far I've done method 1 and method 2, my net income (that is, taking into account losses from getting scammed, money spent on other sites that still have incomplete credits so I'm not "green" yet and therefore didn't get paid yet, and membership fee to a forum for 6 months) is $332.94, so that's like an average of around $83 a month.
I think it's been going great, inspite of all the complications already mentioned above, until the admin told me I was violating a lot of rules (partly my fault, I didn't really read all of 'em). Basically, you're not allowed to log in to the forum from multiple computers, only from your home ip address. So if you get an email on your phone that someone wants to get paid because they already greened your site, you're just supposed to ignore it until you get home (and forget about it, and just allow them to get mad at you and file a complaint about you on the forum, therefore causing you to waste even more of your time resolving complaints rather than making money) because logging in from your phone is not allowed and considered fraudulent. You're also not allowed to access the forum from a public internet, so no PPD in school or at work (even if you have some break times that you can actually make use of to make some money). So you're also not allowed to complete offers on any other computer but the one you have at home. If you happen to be at a friend's house, and you do anything PPD related there (using his ip address), you're also considered a fraud. If you access any of the sites from anywhere else but at home because you were too excited to see if you already earned some money, you're also a fraud.
So basically what this system is telling you to do is to stay home if you want to work it out. It's just like going to an office to work, except that the office is your home. You can't take that work anywhere else but there. But the financial rewards are not equivalent to what you can get from a "real" job. It tells you to abandon available technology because it makes you fraudulent.
Maybe someday I will change my views about PPD, but today, I'm bitter about them trying hard to prove that I'm a fraud.
I'm starting to wonder if this is indeed another "scheme" or scam. One that hasn't been proven yet. Because the moment you enter PPD, you will either get scammed (or so the admins of the forums and the sites say) or be labelled as the scammer (or so, again, the admins of the forums and the sites say). Basically they have the control over who's a scammer and not. Imagine all the free advertising they got from all of the people they labelled "scammers" and simply gave up coz it's not worth arguing about.
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Oh my God. Cheryl, you had me laughing so hard my stomach was hurting. I know you weren't trying to be humorous, only a bit sarcastic at best. But that was the beauty of it all, the fact that you simply told it like it was and boy could I relate! I wouldn't be laughing at all if I didn't experience the same thing you did, so I felt your frustration all too well. "Not exactly stellar income"…. That's where I lost it. I seriously felt as if I wrote that article myself. The simple way you explained the effort and heartache of making an honest buck in today's insane world from a viewpoint I could totally and completely relate to was profoundly and hilariously touching.
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Thanks for the info in your blog, I have spent the last few days looking into starting with PPD and went as far as joining their new forum "www.netincomesolutions.com" and getting a mentor. But honestly I don't have or want to invest the monies required to go green. If there are no offers that I can do and cancel just before, then forget about it. not a $1.00 not $9.99 NOTHING! I guess I just wasted the last three days on this. Thanks again for the heads up, I wish I had found you last Friday though..
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Wow I'm glad I read this review before I gave my money to these scam artists….thanks alot for the insight i thought it was too good to be true
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Wish I had seen this site before I wasted my time. I paid $34.95 to access PPD, because I did not want to complete a free offer (should have been my first clue!!) and then I also paid TrialPay $19.95 for the tutorial videos (because again, I did not want to complete a free offer, knowing that they are never really free). Once I got in to the site and read what was actually going on I wasn't too happy, but I decided to give it a shot. Created a new gmail account and began with Kelly's Fast First Fifty (or whatever it is called). I had the same experience as Cheryl. I was supposed to make $50 for trying offers totaling up to one credit. This was a training exercise set up through their top trader. The suggestion is to complete 2 offers worth half a credit to be more efficient, but there were only 2 offers at the time that matched that criteria and one of them cost $40!!! At this point I stopped and emailed PPD invoking my "60 day, no questions asked, money back guarantee". Might be possible, but not for me. Great way to ruin your credit trying to make a buck.
I should say that PPD credited my account right away once I filled out a ticket on their website. I was totally ready to call my credit card company if necessary … At first I emailed support and got no response, but completing a support ticket on the web got a fast response. They also let me know that I had to contact TrailPay separately about a refund for the $19.95. I have received an email back from TrailPay saying it is being processed, so we will see.
Thanks for this website. Looking forward to reading the tips in the free ebook. I have a small biz and with the downturn in the economy I am looking for a legitimate way to make a little extra money when needed and I should say, one that I am morally okay with. This PPD seems ethically wrong some how, besides the headache of trying to keep track of everything not being worth my time …
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PPd sounds like you can make small amts of money by putting up small amts of money so i guess tech its legit but it is risky. so if you are not the responsible type of person to follow up and cancel offers you signed up for or you don't keep a close eye on your paypal acct i would opt out if you also are the type that doesnt want to deal with the hassle of having to cancell subscriptions than find another home business. otherwise not too bad of an idea its minimal effort with free money
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Well iam having a very hard time trying to find a at home business. I find recomendations for good ones on google and then when i google the program to see if its a scam it turns out people comment that its a scam, then they recommend a site and when i google that program they recommend it turns out people say that they are a scam. At the end of the day i dont know whats a scam or not.I dont know if the ones that say that those are the good proggrams are scammers themself. i dont know if people say certain programs are scams to advertise thaeir product or what. This at home bussiness thing takes alot of researching.
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iam not sure about project pay day google told me that it was a SCAM AND GOOGLE IS A SCAM TO SO WHATS GOING ON IS IT ALL A RIP OFF OR WHAT I READ A PIECE ABOUT A GENTLEMAN TRYING TO MAKE MONEY ON PPD. WELL HE NEVER MADE ANY MONEY AND THEN I READ A PIECE ABOUT ANOTHER MAN THAT PPD. TOOK MONEY OUT OF HIS ACC. HIS HOUSE PAYMENT WAS SHORT AND CAR PAYMENT WAS SHORT ALL BECAUSE PPD. TOOK MONEY OUT OF HIS ACC. THAT IS NOT RIGHT AT ALL COMPANYS TAKING MONEY OUT OF PEOPLES ACC. WITH OUT PERMISSION THATS A RIP OFF COMPANYS DONT CARE AT ALL THEY JUST WANT TO RIP PEOPLE OFF
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Dude, debit cards work just fine. Just get one from your bank. If you don't have a bank account just go to WaMu (Now Chase lol) and get a free checking account, drop some funds in it and there ya go!
Wait a couple weeks and your card should pop up in the mail. That actually what I wound up doing…lol. Since the debit card is attached to an actual bank account, it's fair game as far as offers go.
Oh, and before you do any offers for anyone else, make sure they have a list of offers that are known to credit and DON'T have a bad reputation.
Ask around on the chat room in FLR if anyone has tried a particular offer and see what they have to say about it. Or just run some thread searches in the forum itself.
Anyway, best of luck to you! I gave up on PPD, had a good run…but got tired of it after a while.
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ya im having trouble. didnt do my homework very wel before jumping in. (about the process of going green) i have not decided what action i should take now. i do not have good enough credit to get a credit card, and getting a secured cc wont work either. basically im not going to be able to do anything more untill i can convince someone to give me a cc. wich wont be any time soon. does anyone know of any other ways to get credit with offers? i dug myself deep into a hole with PPD wich is upsetting because like you said there is potential there to make GOOD money. i currently make like 1500 a month working full time. if i could make 2000 at home doing PPD (wich i KNOW is very possible) id be in heaven!
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Wow. You sound like you are having the same start up I did with PPD. I didn't have a verified paypal account, I didn't have CC, I TRIED to use a pre-paid also. Then when that didn't work I tried the PayPal PlugIn…then found out most sites/offers will nail you for using it if they find out.
I guess it's because there was a run of people using pre-paid cards etc to sign up for offers and then never cancel them. So when the offer tried to charge the pre-paid card a month later (or what ever)….the money wasn't there and it didn't matter because it was a throw away card set up in a fake name.
Anyway, if you go about things right…pay attention to cookies etc!….you can do well with PPD. Just make sure you complete offers on sites you want to promote in method 2. Other wise you'll get stuck with sites no one wants to complete (go green) for you.
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My experience thus far with PPD.
well to start i will simply say i am disappointed, but the fault is partialy mine. i have spent nearly all weekend on PPD trying to see results. so far i have tried going green on over 5 different sites. i am currently 15+ dollars in the hole, and have been working almost non stop( besides sleep and a few small breaks) scense friday night. i think mainly the resoning behind my current possition is due to the fact that right now i am in the process of switching my banking service and only have a wal mart prepaid money card to use. i cannot do any of the offers that require a credit card only. some offers simply wont accept my card. ( wich the sites do state in there TaC not to use pre paid cards.) and i was simply not cautious enough going into the program and ended up doing many offers for no credit because of my pre paid card and now cannot use them again. i am however going to continue to work towards a positive bal on my pay pal thru PPD and see how it goes when i get a cc. so far i have not "gone green" or made any money after over to 2 FULL days of work. But…. i am still confident with the necessary tools and some more effort i can get PPD to come thru and from there work on method two for the real rewards.
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That is such a different experience than I had with them. I only tried it a few times but they were pretty much 180 from what you speak of. Mind you this was a year ago.
1. I was able to sign up for it for free, no waiting or offer.
2. After reading everything I hopped in to try method 1, I did a few offers and less than 3 hours later(I was really paranoid about which offers I picked) after spending roughly $13 from my paypal acct I had another $90 in there.
3. I tried a couple under method 2 the next day, that is a bit different but after spending $40 to pay 2 people to "go Green" A had $60, not a big return but a return nonetheless So for 2 days I had made $110.
4. I also had another $65 show a week later after a couple of ones I tried on the first day went green.I personally only wanted to try it out, and I can really see how some of the High volume people make real money. Mainly though, I think its much like you say, for the power method 2 people however, Its not too bad if you're looking for a couple of dollars to use method 1 if you're careful.
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Remember the Milk is a calendar site that helped me keep track of all of the notes and cancellation dates that I needed to keep track of to make sure I didn't end up paying outrageous monthly charges. It's a free service: rememberthemilk.com.
The company that scammed me was a jewelry company that was one of the offers I completed. They charged me well in advance of the due date, and I'm not the only one they've done it to.
The day I signed up for PPD, they were offering "free" sign-ups by completing an offer. I've Tried That wanted me to have the purest possible experience here, so they paid the price of admission for me to get in – and thank goodness! I would have wasted a perfectly good offer I could use to go green!
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Hey Cheryl,
I am so sorry the other company (remember the milk?)jerked you around like that. From your posting here, it seems as if you never bothered with Method 2? After your first experience I can't blame you really.
By the way, you DIDN'T have to pay that $35 fee to PPD. If you would have waited about a week after putting in your name and email (the fake one) PPD would have sent you an email with No Credit Card needed trail offers for you to gain membership.
Lets look at this though, you profited $84.42 right? Okay, what about Survey sites?
How much time do you have to sit there and spend filling out surveys to make nearly $100?
Oh, lets not forget most of those survey sites don't even pay their members for the work they do! My buddy Anthony spent a week on one site doing surveys etc…his back office said he was owed over $75 and the minimum payout threshold was $50.
It has been two months and he still hasn't seen a dime of that money! So lets give the IFW world some credit for at least working if you work it right!
Thanks for taking a second look I've Tried That, glad to know not all the "Work @ Home Watch Dogs" are not like "Work At Home Watch Dog"…lol


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could you please show me the link to the BON's website that gives the specifics on I.V. Abx? At our hospital we are all confused as to what LPN's can/cannot hang. Of course blood, blood products, chemo are obviously out of the question. But one of our LPN's says she can hang I.V. potassium and I don't think she can. I went to the BON's website and looked at the scope of practice for LPN's and I thought the I.V. part was pretty vague. If you could let me know where you found that info. I would love to read it. Thanks so much.0May 2, '06 by loriannlpnI am a LPN with IV cert, currently going through RN School, we were taught not to hang initial IV antibiotics, we can maintain, the subsequent bag may be hung by LPN. I have checked the OBN website, Chapter 17, Page 2, it clearly states what an LPN may iniate. only six elements. Dextrose, NS, LR, Sodium Chloride (0.45,0.2), sterile water. Good luck with this, I know how confusing it can be.Last edit by loriannlpn on May 2, '060May 9, '06 by nursejohn43065Re-check your sources. IV certed LPN's can hang all ATB solutions as long as it is in a peripheral line or midline. Can't do PICC lines because they are considered central lines. Can't touch a PICC line for anything other than dressing changes.0May 11, '06 by moodychickHi!
I have been an LPN for 34 yrs in the ER of a major hospital. Lpn's can hang antibiotics as long as they are in a peripheral vein. Believe me, it took a long time just to be able to get approval to start IV's. Thanks for this forum!0May 11, '06 by nursejohn43065Thanks moodychick! I remember when I first started nursing in the early 90's all we could do was monitor an IV, regulate drip rate and that was about it. We have come a long way. With the increase of PICC lines now I bet that within 10 years we will probably be able to do those too.

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Squirrelman: Seattle bound
David Csaky, better known as Squirrelman, headed back to Seattle Tuesday, friends said, in an effort to bring attention to his latest plight: His unsuccessful efforts to get a state ID.
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Exposing exposure
Photographer of hundreds of Seattle's homeless is having a free exhibition of his work in his Ballard gallery
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A proper squeeze
Sometimes stories gain a second life. Such is the case for tales about accordions.
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Bridge Jumping: A Primer
The New York Times does a terrific job on an awful, recurring event locals know too well — especially those who live around the Aurora Bridge.
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Lawnmower Man
Every now and then someone's unusual hobby is on display.
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Fremont's Mobile Home: The saga continues…
A 100-year-old home in Fremont, recently saved from a developer's project, got a new lease on life on an old plot of land. PI photo gallery on the way.
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Needle Exchange, the new blog for the Under the Needle column
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Sometimes it is pretty interesting what a hobbyist can accomplish with time and tenacity. David Entrikin is one of those people.
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You have rollerblading & parkour featured but no BMX flatland, street, and/or ramp riders? GTFO.
Like a lot of women captivated by the roller-derby reboot, Zayas hadn't signed on for an organized sport until derby. Always active but not necessarily a team player, she joined up with the nationally ranked Gold Coast Derby Grrls a little more than two years ago. Playing under the name "Kitten Not Submittin'," Zayas skates primarily as a jammer — the fast one who is charged with scoring points for her team by passing members of the opposing team on the track; the team with the highest score at the end of the one-hour match wins.
In a recent bout against one of the league's biggest rivals, she came away as the game's highest-scoring jammer. She also puts in time as a blocker, a complicated position that requires both offensive and defensive strategizing. "Every derby player is waiting for the moment when roller derby goes pro," she says, acknowledging that the sport is still saddled with a lot of misconceptions. "People think it's a race or that there are no rules," she says. "There is an objective."
Noah Flegel, 14, and Keenan Flegel, 16, Lighthouse Point
Wakeboarding and Wakesurfing
They haven't even made it out of high school yet, but already these athletic brothers have the world at their water-pruned feet. Competitive since they were toddlers, Noah and Keenan Flegel have secured more championships, sponsorships, and accolades in their short careers than many board-sport devotees could hope for in a lifetime.
Last year, Noah's role as a world champion in wakeboarding and his prowess for surfing and wakesurfing landed him on the cover of Sports Illustrated Kids as the magazine's "SportsKid of the Year." He's also part of an effort to get wakeboarding into the 2020 Olympics, an accomplishment that would look really nice on a college application. "To me, it's the best sport to be in the Olympics," he says, noting how cool it looks to watch boarders spin through the air with apparent weightlessness. He intends to go pro with the sport and attend college in Orlando, a world hub for wakeboarding.
Keenan, meanwhile, frequently takes top honors at wakesurfing competitions while exploring what's possible in the new sport. He'll likely head to college in Southern California so he can advance in wakesurfing while pursuing a degree. He says that though people initially paid attention to him in competitions simply by virtue of his youth ("Everyone was at least ten years older than me"), he soon "earned" that attention by advancing to the professional level before he was old enough to drive a car.
North Broward Preparatory School, where Noah and Keenan are students, has been supportive of the boys' training and competition schedules. The proximity of their home, school, and the lake on which they train means they're able to devote plenty of time to homework at night and still get to bed on time. Perhaps predictably, the brothers maintain above-average grades, even in their honors classes.
Cheyne Cottrell, 29, Deerfield Beach
A surfboard doubles as a passport for Cheyne Cottrell, whose sport has given him a chance to travel the world in search of waves. He's surfed in Australia, Hawaii, and Central America; throughout Europe; and at Skeleton Bay in Namibia, where he says he encountered "the most perfect waves ever." Growing up the child of a devout surfer — his late father, Kirk Cottrell, opened Island Water Sports in Deerfield Beach — Cottrell enjoyed early exposure to water and an active lifestyle. "I've been surfing for as long as I can remember," he says.
In 1997, the elder Cottrell moved his family to Cape Town, South Africa, for missionary work. The move meant Cheyne Cottrell spent most of his teenage years in the vicinity of some of the best surfing beaches in the world. He moved back to South Florida in 2005 at age 21, even though the state simply doesn't provide the kinds of waves that make for a great surfer. "Getting into the big-wave scene can be a challenge," he says.
His time in Africa, combined with his wanderlust, gave him the confidence to break into the pros and earn sponsorship from Oakley. "Going from amateur to professionally ranked was a gamble... I had to put everything on the line and go for it." He once ranked as high as 90 on the Association of Surfing Professionals' World Qualifying Series. Cottrell — who now works full-time at Island Water Sports — will pass along the fundamentals of the sport in a series of ten, one-week surf camps this summer in Deerfield Beach.
Stand-Up Paddleboarding
For most people, a potentially fatal encounter with a five-foot barracuda would put the kibosh on using the ocean as a personal playground. Mary Anne Boyer, however — she's a bit of a badass. The onetime Olympic hopeful in sailing suffered a painful and life-threatening attack from the toothy predator in June 1997, when she was working in Coconut Grove at the Coral Reef Yacht Club, performing a routine maneuver as part of her hull-cleaning business. The barracuda mistook a metal tool in her hand for prey and lunged, sinking its teeth into her left arm. The bite severed the artery and effectively ended her sailing career.


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Thanks to Jorge Gonzalez, Miami Beach Is Now Dade's Most Corrupt Town
The biggest blow of all, though, landed on April 11, when the FBI announced a mass corruption bust. The city's chief code compliance officer, Jose Alberto, along with four other officers and a firefighter, had allegedly collected more than $25,000 in payouts from a club owner snitching to the feds. Another firefighter helped arrange a cocaine shipment through the club, the FBI says.
It got worse for Gonzalez: The Herald disclosed that the men had a laundry list of earlier brushes with the law, including cocaine possession charges, DUIs, and attacking a police officer with a rock, yet all kept their jobs.
Last Tuesday, the scandals all came to a head when Gonzalez paid a visit to the Tuesday Morning Breakfast Club at David's Café II, an informal gathering of city power brokers. He tried to placate a furious crowd of residents by telling them that surveys showed most Beach folks were doing just fine. "People are happy and the government is meeting its expectations," he pleaded.
But Frank Del Vecchio, a retired attorney who has lived on Ocean Drive for decades, was having none of it. "You are not the person who should lead reform," Del Vecchio said. Gonzalez's cool veneer cracked. He grasped at the microphone in Del Vecchio's hand, drawing gasps from the crowd. But before surrendering the mike, Del Vecchio delivered a parting shot: "You are the person who should resign effective today!"
Two days later, Gonzalez's resignation was official. Commissioners accepted the deal without allowing public discussion. But outside city hall, residents buzzed over the move. Some called for changes to the strong-manager system to prevent a repeat of the abuses of the past 18 months. Some laid all the blame on Gonzalez.
Others, such as legendary Herald crime reporter and mystery writer Edna Buchanan, were more cynical.
"For a long time now, money has talked at city hall, not the people who live in this city," Buchanan said. "As long as the millionaires and the European developers are the priority, it doesn't matter who's running this place. It's not paradise for the people who live here."
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Catalogue: Major Autumn Auction
Auction date: Saturday 04. December 2010 at 15 o'clock
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All prices include the buyer's premium of 22 % on the hammer price. All prices in EURO..
Exchange rate | |
0.835 GBP | 1 Euro |
1.284 USD | 1 Euro |
Lot: 3 | ||
Yomut Chuval | A brown-ground nine-gül Yomut chuval with chemche secondary güls, small hooked boxes in the main border and an undecorated elem. Replaced selvedges, slightly reduced at the top and bottom, otherwise well preserved. The back is missing. | |
Origin: Central Asia, West Turkestan |
Dimensions: 82 x 112 cm |
Age: Mid 19th century |
End price: 1,098.00 € |
Lot: 4 | ||
Yomut Chuval | A nine-gül chuval with erre secondary güls, a syrga border and six well-drawn trees in the elem. A fine weave, brilliant colours. Original sides and upper finish, minimally reduced at the bottom. Two vertical lacerations in the upper corners, where the fastening cords were originally located, have been restored. | |
Origin: Central Asia, West Turkestan |
Dimensions: 81 x 123 cm |
Age: Mid 19th century |
End price: 1,830.00 € |
Lot: 5 | ||
The Bernheimer Garden Carpet Fragment | This famous fragment, formerly in the Bernheimer Collection, consists of sections from the border area of a garden carpet that was probably once very large; they have been joined to produce a harmonious overall picture. The midnight blue ground now shows an alternating arrangement of opposing cypresses and shrubs with birds sitting on their tops. The white-ground border displays a spaciously conceived vine of cruciform flowers, palmettes and sickle leaves. It appears that no other fragments of this carpet have survived. Obvious signs of age and wear, old repairs. | |
Origin: North West Persia, Azerbaijan |
Dimensions: 169 x 105 cm |
Age: Early 18th century |
End price: 4,758.00 € |
Lot: 6 | ||
Chamba Rumal Embroideries (2) | The small embroidery with the central goddess is likely to be the older of the two pieces, being somewhat more finely embroidered in a more mellow palette. The larger embroidery has a depiction of the 'dance of the dairy maids' in the field. Slight signs of wear, small stains. | |
Origin: North West India, Punjab |
Dimensions: a = 65 x 63 cm, b = 71 x 74 cm |
Age: Ca. 1900 |
End price: 1,159.00 € |
Lot: 7 | ||
Mahal | This large red-ground carpet, with a spaciously conceived repeat of palmettes, rosettes, sickle leaves, blossoms and thin twigs as well as a green-ground Herati border, was made at the same time as the Ziegler carpets produced in the same area, Sultanabad and its environs. While the Ziegler carpets pieces produced in strictly controlled workshop conditions are finely woven and show precisely drawn designs, this carpet is a typical Mahal of coarse weave. Obvious signs of age and wear, slightly damaged but original sides. | |
Origin: West Persia, Arak region |
Dimensions: 640 x 393 cm |
Age: Late 19th century |
End price: 3,660.00 € |
Lot: 9 | ||
Sumakh | An antique Kuba sumakh displaying three medallions and a rare main border design. The very beautiful palette includes sulphur yellow, light green and azure. Only slight signs of wear, good condition, with the warp ends tied off in a net at both ends and original side finishes. | |
Origin: East Caucasus, Kuba region |
Dimensions: 182 x 141 cm |
Age: Second half 19th century |
End price: 4,880.00 € |
Lot: 10 | ||
Shahsavan Kilim | A large, single-panel kilim with a design of five wide horizontal bands containing hooked hexagons separated by narrow, white-ground dividing stripes. Probably woven by the Shahsavan, this kilim could also be an Azeri piece. Some of the flatweaves made by the two tribes are almost indistinguishable. Good condition, with the original braided warps at both ends. | |
Origin: South East Caucasus, Moghan region |
Dimensions: 354 x 203 cm |
Age: Late 19th century |
End price: 2,074.00 € |
Lot: 11 | ||
Karagashli | Three red box shapes with a central rosette lie along the central axis of the blue field, interspersed with the abstract birds that are characteristic of the provenance; six geometric trees are seen along the sides. The yellow-ground main border shows a vine of abstract birds. The original finishes have been preserved all around, uniformly low pile. | |
Origin: East Caucasus, Kuba region |
Dimensions: 180 x 103 cm |
Age: Second half 19th century |
End price: 2,684.00 € |
Literature: ENGELHARDT, EVA, Teppiche. Die Bilder des Orients. Band II. Heidelberg 1978, no. 344 *** HERRMANN, EBERHART, Von Konya bis Kokand. Seltene Orientteppiche 3. Munich 1980, no. 41 |
Lot: 12 | ||
Shirvan | The original kilim finishes survive at both ends, the selvedges are in need of restoration. Heavily corroded dark brown. | |
Origin: East Caucasus |
Dimensions: 266 x 112 cm |
Age: Mid 19th century |
End price: 2,440.00 € |
Lot: 13 | ||
Kecimuhsine Flatweave | A white-ground flatweave with a brocaded design. Wide, angular arches decorated with a double hook and cypresses lie on a ground hermetically covered in tiny botehs. Balpinar has examined such flatweaves, made in the Central Anatolian village of Kecimuhsine, establishing in her field work that they were not only prayer rugs, but also served as curtains hung before alcoves. The symbolism of the design is supposed to be associated with religious ideas of the Qadiri and Nakshibendi Sufi orders. Good condition. | |
Origin: Central Anatolia, Konya region |
Dimensions: 155 x 123 cm |
Age: Late 19th century |
End price: 732.00 € |
Literature: BALPINAR, BELKIS ACAR, Etablishing the Cultural Context of a Group of Anatolian Cicim Prayer Rugs. In: HALI 4, 3, 1982, pp. 262 ff. *** ESKENAZI, JOHN J. (publ.), Kilim. Milan 1980, no. 28 *** EILAND, MURRAY L. Jr. & EILAND, MURRAY III, Oriental Carpets. A Complete Guide. 4th edition, Boston, New York, Toronto, London 1998, no. 182 |
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St. Charles Parish EOC Gets New Home
St. Charles Parish cuts the ribbon today on a brand new emergency operations center.
The facility is on River Road across from the parish courthouse in Hahnville.
"It's a 13,000 square foot facility. It's rated for 200-mile-per-hour winds which is especially good for hurricane response," says parish spokeswoman Renee Simpson.
"The former EOC was actually in the basement of the courthouse, so there was really no room to expand, which led to the decision to go ahead and build a new building," Simpson said.
Simpson points out the new EOC gives the parish capabilities it didn't have before, such as "sleeping space for about 40 emergency responders, a commercial kitchen, two 600-kilowatt diesel generators."
The $5.8 million facility was paid for with a combination of local tax dollars, state and federal grants and a $870,000 donation from Dow Chemical.
Simpson says EOC is in the process of moving from the courthouse basement to its new building. The move is expected to be completed by the end of the year.


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Published by Farrar, Straus and Giroux (BYR) on April 1, 2014
Genres: Contemporary, Young Adult
Pages: 327
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It begins as an assignment for English class: Write a letter to a dead person.
Laurel chooses Kurt Cobain because her sister, May, loved him. And he died young, just like May. Soon, Laurel has a notebook full of letters to the dead—to people like Janis Joplin, Heath Ledger, Amelia Earhart, and Amy Winehouse—though she never gives a single one of them to her teacher. She writes about starting high school, navigating the choppy waters of new friendships, learning to live with her splintering family, falling in love for the first time, and, most important, trying to grieve for May. But how do you mourn for someone you haven't forgiven?
It's not until Laurel has written the truth about what happened to herself that she can finally accept what happened to May. And only when Laurel has begun to see her sister as the person she was—lovely and amazing and deeply flawed—can she truly start to discover her own path.
In a voice that's as lyrical and as true as a favorite song, Ava Dellaira writes about one girl's journey through life's challenges with a haunting and often heartbreaking beauty.
Book Review:
LOVE LETTERS TO THE DEAD isn't my typical sort of book, but I had read a couple of reviews praising it, and I had also checked out the first few letters and thought I might enjoy it. Unfortunately, I didn't. I couldn't even bring myself to finish the book, and usually I have to finish books. I made it to page 74 before I said no more.
Here's why I couldn't get into the book:
–The idea of the "love letters." I didn't really see any point for Laurel to be writing love letters to famous dead people. Yes, it's a neat idea at first, and probably what attracted a lot of people, myself included, to the book. But 99% of the letters are identical. Laurel starts off with "Dear _____," then launches into a boring monologue about her day, complete with dialogue and misplaced purple prose descriptions. Most of the time, I forgot I was reading a letter. The epistolary format just didn't work for me, especially when Laurel educated the dead person about their own life. She actually told Judy Garland and Janis Joplin what their childhoods were like. And the subjects of the letters? I can't see a lot of teens knowing who many of these people are, such as Mister Ed or River Phoenix.
–Laurel had no personality for me. I didn't care about her at all, and I couldn't connect with her. In LOVE LETTERS TO THE DEAD, she's just starting high school, but at times, I could have sworn she was 10 because of her innocence and naivety. Laurel is mourning her dead sister, May, but instead of showing us how broken up she is, the author just tells us. I am aware that people mourn in different ways, but I never felt any grief from Laurel.
–Within the 74 pages I read, Laurel smokes, drinks, flashes people, sneaks out, and watches her friends steal alcohol. I'm no prude, and I like when teens exhibit realistic behavior in young adult books, but I thought this was a bit much.
–I had no idea where LOVE LETTERS TO THE DEAD was going. Usually I get a good sense of where a book is headed, but here, I had no idea, and I like to know the plot's general direction. I acknowledge that I didn't finish the book and maybe a better story showed up later, but I shouldn't have to wait until the middle or end for something to happen. A book needs to keep my interest, and LOVE LETTERS TO THE DEAD did not.
–The writing. I cannot imagine a freshman writing something like this: "I liked everything about it. I liked waiting in line with everyone. I liked that the girl in front of me had red curls on the back of her head that you could tell she curled herself. And I liked the thin crinkle of the plastic when I opened the wrapper. I liked how every bite made a falling-apart kind of crunch (p. 8)." That quote is about buying a Nutter Butter. A NUTTER BUTTER, people.
LOVE LETTERS TO THE DEAD is a book that just didn't work for me. I wanted to like it, and I tried to read it, but I could not get into it.
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2010 | PC | Russian, English, Danish, Polish, French, Portuguese, Italian (selected GameLaunchere) | Developer: EA Black Box, EA Singapore | Publisher: Electronic Arts | 1.19GB
Genre: Arcade / Racing / Online Only
Players can join a team and challenge rivals and the police on numerous routes in different modes of collective game. The new project represents an opportunity to collect and alter the character, to ride a realistic licensed cars, and track the achievement of individual riders in races with the big open world game in the history of Need for Speed. Need for Speed ??World Online is a new entertainment project with thrilling gameplay , great graphics and a complex rating system that promotes networking players.
Operating system: Windows XP / Vista / Windows 7;
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Memory: 1 GB (Windows XP) / 1 GB (Windows Vista);
Sound card: compatible with DirectX 9.0;
Video Card: CO 256 MB VRAM compatible with DirectX 9.0c, Pixel Shader 2.0 (NVIDIA GeForce 6600/ATI Radeon X700 and more compatible), with the latest drivers DirectX;
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Solo the Golden Retriever was a dream to spin. Stages of spinning dog hairCarding raw dog hair - Carding is the process of preparing raw fibre to be spun; it makes the fibres lay the same way.
Rolags - once carded the fibre is rolled into rolags ready for spinning. Spinning - Firstly it is spun into a single thread. Then two single threads are spun in an opposite direction to create a two ply yarn, which is balanced and very durable. Skeining - After the yarn is plied it is made into a skein. The skein is washed and hung to dry with weights. The weights set the yarn. What you have to doBrush your dog when it is not wet and muddy. Collect the hair from the brush and store it in a paper bag. A bag with handles is ideal as you can hang it up and the dog hair will not compress. You can also store your dog hair in a cardboard box or a pillow case. Try to store it in a light airy place. Do not store your dog hair in plastic bags as it needs to breath otherwise it will 'felt'.
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After last nights game against the buffalo sabres, there is really nothing good to highlight about it. The Boston Bruins lost 0-6 and were dominated right out of the gates. Ryan Miller put on an amazing performance stopping 36 pucks flown his way. Tuukka Rask started the game for the Bruins but was subbed out immediately after his 3rd goal given up. He didn't look like his mind was in it at all. After Tim Thomas came in it looked as though there might be a chance but that was quickly stifled by Sabres as they lit the lamp up 3 more times against him as well. It was an ugly game that included 57 penalty minutes for the Bruins and 33 penalty minutes for the Sabres.
After reading another blog about the game, the creator brought up an argument that fighting isn't really that important. I disagree. I believe even if your down to get into a fight is to show you still care, it helps relieve some steam that you may have had throughout a tough loss, and simply show another man who how you feel with your fists.
Miller, goalie of the Sabres, said of the Bruins. "It just goes to show, if you hang in there and play good hockey, that stuff really doesn't matter." Clearly this is coming from a goalie. Hockey fights are as important as ever in any game. Hockey fights simply add more fans to the game then keep fans away. They will never be removed from the game.
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NOTE: This thread does not flame against Atheism, but it does criticise it. It displays my definition of Atheism which seems to be not for the general public. If you can't deal with criticism towards Atheism you are in the wrong discussion.
Additionally the fear of extremism is directly linked to very seemingly possible distant futures NOT THE NEXT 2 YEARS.
First of all I would like to say I am mostly against all sorts of organized religions, but in fact I am agnostic. (meaning I dont admit defeat to any superpower untill there is enough evidence to support it)
In my opnion there is a big issue that does not tend to be adressed with religion in the right way. People always complain about how close minded religion really is and that most of their followers are just blindly pusuing the herd. Though how much "better" is atheism really?
Atheism is by my language's definition a religion itself. The translated definition of religion in German and Dutch state that a belief turns into a religion once the belief itself sets an definition of how the world works.
People think atheism is about the "we dont know" factor, but it is not. Atheism preeches the "We know YOU are wrong" factor.
I absolutely agree with the fact that atheism not being an organized religion (yet) gives it a higher level logical acceptance, but where is it going?
Atheism used to be the outcast lunatics hanged to death. Now there are groups forming all over the world with "logical leaders" behind it. I honestly think atheistm is goign in the same direction as all other religions are going right now. How far do you think you are of having atheism's jehovas whitnesses at your door? I have listened to my lesser educated/informed friends rampage about religion after having seen one biased documentary (Religulous). They were making statements such as, "I am gonna kill all those who believe in religion" etc. This is nothing more than atheist extremism. Even on this webiste it seems that some topics are purely places here ase a response to rage/anger against religious people.
This brings you to the discussion that should be here, maybe even istead of this entire website (not hating at the website, this place is great), "Are we too unintelligent?"
The reason people follow blindly what is set right infront of them is because they are uninformed and scared of complecated explanations that undermine the value of their own existence in this universe.
Religion is part of the problem, but education is in an infinitely worse state.
(Again I am not hating at atheism, as I am far more happy with it that even Buddism, but merely pointing out a more pressing issue. Next year Ill be attending univesity where I hope to find more who have brought themselves up to date with the real issues)
*EDIT: removed the word absolute from the definition of atheism, this is not correct.
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I got into this argument on Suicide Girls.Admittedly, I ended up being a hypocrite and had to apologize for being stupid, because I tried to do something I was asking everyone else not to do to me.
I will also ask you not to this same thing to me, as well. That is, don't pretend you know why I call myself an atheist.
Atheism is a question of belief, not knowledge. Your statement about atheism makes it seem like you confuse knowledge and belief.
I do consider myself an agnostic, because I don't claim to know anything. While I think the question of whether or not God exists is, ultimately, a scientific question (it is a question about the nature of reality and, in its most basic sense, science is the tool we use to answer questions about the nature of reality), I think we are at least thousands of years away from even beginning to answer the question, because we first have to discover how the universe (not just our visible universe, but the entire universe) came to exist in teh first place.
However, I also consider myself an atheist because I don't believe in deities. I do make the (logically based, I think) assumption that, ultimately, the explanation for existence will be a natural one because I don't see any reason to think otherwise, and the reason given to me thus far rely almost entirely on the logical fallacy of special pleading.
I don't consider myself to be part of a religion because I'm not. My philosophy may be Secular Humanism, but I'm not entirely sure, yet (I treat others as I want to be treated).
I've read The God Delusion (it actually played a small role in my deconversion) and other books by Dawkins, and I've read many of the other atheist books as well. Some are good and some are bad and some are just okay, but not one, not even the God Delusion, can be considered a "holy book", or even the equivalent. They are, at best, opinion pieces, and if I ever meet anyone who would actually try to live their lives by even on of those books, I'd smack up upside the head because they're idiots.
To me, atheism is no more, or less, than the lack of theism. I don't see any reason to treat it as anything else.
As far as all the atheist meetings and this site and the so-called "Gnu Atheists" and the rallies and so on... what the hell did you expect?
Let's talk only about the US. Here's a nice list of the 10 Scariest States to be an Atheist. Did you know that atheists are the least trusted minority in the US? Most US-Americans wouldn't vote for an atheist. At a Memorial Day march, atheist veterans got booed. School administrations will not allow atheist groups in high schools (despite the fact that nearly every High School has at least one Christian group [mine had 3, to be exact]). Atheist teenagers have been ostracized and ultimately kicked out of the places they live. Do you remember the Fort Braggs incident? Atheists have even lost custody of their children, just for being atheists!
And that, BTW, is just a tiny sampling of the US. That doesn't even count the rest of world, where, in at least 3 Islamic countries, atheism is punishable by death.
In fact, I recommend reading that entire Wikipedia article. Yes, it points out ambiguity. And even I'm happy to point out when atheists are claiming discrimination where it's just not true (see: Seven in Heaven Way; probably one of the dumbest, most idiotic, most pointless fights we've ever started).
But the fact is, this kind of thing is alive and well all over the world. And we're supposed to... what... sit down and take it? We're supposed to just let the majority beat us down for no other reason than we don't believe in God? We're supposed to let those closet atheists isolated in the Bible Belt remain closeted and isolated?
If you answer yes to any of those questions, than I have to say screw you.
The whole "Gnu Atheist" movement is a reaction, okay? It wouldn't exist if not for the likes of Intelligent Design, Young-Earth Creationism, Ted Haggard, Oral Roberts, Pat Robertson, Ken Miller, Kent Hovind, and so on. If US-Americans didn't give a hoot about what religion the presidential-hopeful was and how religious he was, then "Gnu Atheism" would not exist. In fact, if people didn't care about us at all- if the fact that we don't believe in a higher power wasn't such a threat to many- then none of this would have ever happened.
It had to happen. Something had to give. And here we are.
Time is limited these days but this post I feel necessitated a response. I personally feel you are looking at atheism the wrong way in that you see it as an opposite of religion. It's not a scenario like republican or democrat in that the party to which atheists rally behind simply doesn't exist. The terminology here is misleading, atheism has become a thing, personified and lambasted in the media as well as the rallying cry for those who disbelieve but in truth it's nothing of the sort. No book, no creeds, no dogma, no chanting, I personally reject the idea of someone wishing to ascribe the same ideology to faith and a lack of it. As I have mentioned here before, there is no word for someone who disbelieves in unicorns, nor should there be a word to describe someone who disbelieves in gods. But of course there is and I suppose it was somewhat necessary but the point I'm attempting to reach is that atheism should not be something that replaces religion any more than typhoid should be replaced with tuberculosis. To me atheism means freeing your mind of some bits of silliness that you may find answers that are better suited to a logical conclusion. Quitting drugs doesn't mean you should replace it with binge drinking, it simply means that you can now see the world with clearer eyes. How much better is atheism? That you are free to ask that question in and of itself should suggest it is much better.
To answer your question: "Are we too unintelligent?" I think it needs to be reworded, as it is too broad a question. From a species stand point I do not think so. We have the ability and capacity to understand and logically differ answers (also look at Atheists, who only accepts fact and truth and dedicate themselves to finding the answers out there, not accepting a made up explanation), we see this from the great minds throughout the ages. What I think is unintelligent is the social mechanism of society. As you said, people are afraid, afraid of the truth, of meaning, and of accepting our place in the universe, and it is not a sky daddy's pet project. People hear an explanation, if it makes them feel good and all warm and fuzzy inside then a mass majority will accept it without question, but they will also follow the crowd. If a society is based with its roots in an idea, then that idea will influence the decisions of many generations of all aspects of life. And it's because people tend to be lazy. Weather it is right, wrong, good or bad, whatever dictates the social structure will sway those who don't like to think for themselves and just follows the crowd. This does not mean there cannot be change, it has happened over and over throughout history, where people wake up and fight against a system. So yes, people can be very unintelligent, but if we apply ourselves, we can be fantastic. But that is based on the individual.
The other point I wanted to make is that I do not believe that Atheism is a religion, or at least to me it is not. The reason Atheists tend to be very strong in their opinions is not because we are trying to convert people to join our club. All we want is our opinion to be heard and not be forced to live a certain way. Just like a christian would not want to be forced to pray to allah, We do not wish to be forced to live with laws and practices that go against our personal beliefs. Also religion is set in stone. Once its foundation has been set, it can never be changed, Atheism has its root in truth and science, which is ever evolving. We will only accept fact that can be proven, if it turns out that what we learn in the future changes the definition of something we thought to be true, were not too proud to say that's wrong because it doesn't say that in this book, instead we learned something new and that is fantastic. We will not go door to door trying to convert, because there is no gain or reason for us to do so (aside from the potential of there being one less person to annoy us). What good would it do? I mean its not like we get afterlife brownie points for converting people or anything.
There will always be extremes in any group, that's because they are made up with people and people are f****d up creatures. But you can't destroy the whole group from the actions of a few. I know you might say "thats hypocritical, the same can be said about people in religions, there are good people in there as well…" and I agree there are very good hearted people who believe in a religion, but the religion itself is what is wrong. What are its main objectives? Destroy anything that is "wrong" and convert everyone to be like them with a shared belief in a deity. If they object, then that is wrong so sayeth the lord their god, and what is done to what is wrong? DELETE. So the doctrine promotes violence, tell me how atheism does this? And the whole "no moral code" argument is BS, people have the innate ability to know what is right or wrong and just using common sense tells us that cause and effect will affect our well being, without an ancient book to tell us what is right or wrong…based on a social code that is no longer valid.
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Web applications, resource sharing and performance prediction
Giuliano Casale
Imperial College London
DEI - Sala seminari
3 maggio 2011
Ore 16.30
The on-demand enterprise computing model is expected to become mainstream in the next years. Web-based enterprise software will be mainly offered as a service to multiple client organisations from large hosting platforms, such as private or public clouds.
This new computing model raises the need for service providers to deliver predictable performance, understand software and hardware bottlenecks, and stress-test the resilience of applications to time-varying workloads and their peaks. However, this is a difficult problem, since the performance of Web-based applications is determined by the many interactions between the incoming requests and the software components and shared resources that serve them.
In this talk, I will discuss a performance engineering framework for Web applications. Based on live system measurements, the proposed methodology automatically derives a special class of tractable hidden Markov models to characterize resource consumption at different levels. Queueing-theoretic extensions are then defined, solved by
numerical optimization programs, and used to predict, characterize, and test Web application performance.
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Giuliano Casale received the MSc and PhD degrees in computer engineering from Politecnico di Milano, Italy, in 2002 and 2006 respectively. He joined the Department of Computing at Imperial College London in 2010 where he is currently an Imperial College Junior Research Fellow. His research interests include performance modeling, workload characterization, stochastic scheduling, simulation, and resource consumption estimation. Prior to joining Imperial College London, he was a full-time researcher at SAP Research UK in 2009, and a postdoctoral research associate at the College of William and Mary, Virginia, between 2007 and 2008. In Fall 2004 he was a visiting scholar at UCLA studying bounds for queueing networks. He has published more than 60 papers in journals, conferences, and book chapters. He is a member of the ACM, the IEEE, and the IEEE Computer Society.
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- Date:09 Nov 2013
- Kick-off:17:30
- Venue:Carrow Road
- Attendance:26,824
- Hooper - pen (53)
Snodgrass (71) Fer (90)
Fer (90) Fer (90)
Fer (90) - Morrison (31)
Live Commentary
The referee signals the end of the game.
- 92:15 +2.15
Leroy Fer scores a left footed goal. Norwich 3-1 West Ham.Assist on the goal came from Johan Elmander.
- 92:15 +2.15
Leroy Fer scores a left footed goal. Norwich 3-1 West Ham.
- 90:04 +0.04
Nathan Redmond takes a shot and cleared the crossbar.
- 86:54
Clearance by Michael Turner.
- 86:42
Bradley Johnson is brought on as a substitute for Gary Hooper.
- 86:19
Matthew Jarvis replaces Mark Noble.
- 85:50
Shot by Robert Snodgrass cleared the bar.
- 85:43
The ball is sent over by Nathan Redmond.
- 85:07
Centre by Carlton Cole.
- 84:10
Clearance made by Razvan Rat.
- 83:09
Clearance made by Russell Martin.
- 82:34
Free kick awarded for an unfair challenge on Carlton Cole by Leroy Fer.
- 82:03
Johan Elmander has an effort at goal and missed to the right of the net.
- 81:29
Centre by Russell Martin.
- 79:24
Header by Leroy Fer misses left.
- 78:47
Nathan Redmond crosses the ball.
- 77:21
Shot by Gary Hooper. Jussi Jaaskelainen makes a block.
- 76:36
Martin Olsson sends in a cross.
- 75:48
Free kick taken by Martin Olsson.
- 75:23
Guy Demel concedes a free kick for a foul on Nathan Redmond.
- 73:30
Carlton Cole on for Jack Collison.
- 72:57
Michael Turner fouled by Kevin Nolan, the ref awards a free kick.
- 71:48
Robert Snodgrass finds the net with a shot from the free kick. Norwich 2-1 West Ham.
- 71:19
Mohamed Diame joins the action as a substitute, replacing Joe Cole.
- 70:30
Robert Snodgrass fouled by James Collins, the ref awards a free kick.
- 70:24
Jonathan Howson takes a shot and bounced off the bar.
- 69:20
Foul by Joe Cole on Robert Snodgrass, free kick awarded.
- 69:11
Free kick taken by Razvan Rat.
- 68:38
Foul by Jonathan Howson on Joe Cole, free kick awarded.
- 67:03
Unfair challenge on John Ruddy by James Tomkins results in a free kick.
- 64:56
Robert Snodgrass manages to make a clearance.
- 64:53
Stewart Downing produces a cross.
- 64:19
Leroy Fer restarts play with the free kick.
- 64:05
Jack Collison gives away a free kick for an unfair challenge on Jonathan Howson.
- 63:25
Clearance made by James Collins.
- 62:08
John Ruddy takes the free kick.
- 60:58
Razvan Rat gives away a free kick for an unfair challenge on Robert Snodgrass.
- 60:22
Clearance by Ryan Bennett.
- 59:52
Leroy Fer takes a shot and missed to the right of the net.
- 57:56
Foul by Johan Elmander on Mark Noble, free kick awarded.
- 57:00
James Tomkins takes the free kick.
- 56:41
Gary Hooper challenges James Tomkins unfairly and gives away a free kick.
- 56:07
Nathan Redmond takes a shot. Jussi Jaaskelainen blocks the ball.
- 54:47
Robert Snodgrass gives away a free kick for an unfair challenge on Razvan Rat.
- 53:44
Penalty scored by Gary Hooper. Norwich 1-1 West Ham.
- 52:56
Unfair challenge on Gary Hooper by Jussi Jaaskelainen results in a Penalty.
- 52:53
Clearance by James Collins.
- 52:15
Clearance by Razvan Rat.
- 51:49
Free kick crossed by Stewart Downing.
- 51:10
Unfair challenge on Ravel Morrison by Leroy Fer results in a free kick.
- 50:39
Direct strike on goal from the free kick comes in from Ravel Morrison. Leroy Fer gets a block in.
- 50:00
Michael Turner receives a caution.
- 49:16
Clearance made by Ryan Bennett.
- 46:12
James Tomkins makes a clearance.
- 45:57
Michael Turner makes a clearance.
The game restarts for the second half.
The referee calls an end to the first half.
- 45:54 +0.54
The ball is delivered by Stewart Downing.
- 45:44 +0.44
Clearance made by Ryan Bennett.
- 45:32
Johan Elmander gives away a free kick for an unfair challenge on James Tomkins.
- 44:28
Free kick awarded for a foul by Robert Snodgrass on Mark Noble.
- 43:44
Russell Martin takes the free kick.
- 42:28
Free kick awarded for an unfair challenge on Robert Snodgrass by James Tomkins.
- 41:42
The ball is sent over by Razvan Rat.
- 39:38
Shot by Nathan Redmond went over the net.
- 37:35
Foul by Kevin Nolan on Ryan Bennett, free kick awarded.
- 36:49
Jack Collison manages to make a clearance.
- 34:26
Joe Cole delivers the ball.
- 33:58
Mark Noble manages to make a clearance.
- 33:40
Clearance made by James Tomkins.
- 32:40
Anthony Pilkington leaves the field to be replaced by Nathan Redmond.
- 31:49
Ravel Morrison scores with a left foot finish. Norwich 0-1 West Ham.Assist on the goal came from Kevin Nolan.
- 31:44
Shot by Kevin Nolan.
- 30:10
Michael Turner makes a clearance.
- 28:59
Clearance made by James Tomkins.
- 27:35
Free kick taken by John Ruddy.
- 27:19
Kevin Nolan is caught offside.
- 25:13
Shot by Kevin Nolan. John Ruddy catches the ball.
- 24:15
Jack Collison makes a clearance.
- 21:16
Razvan Rat crosses the ball.
- 17:21
Centre by Gary Hooper.
- 15:42
Free kick awarded for a foul by Kevin Nolan on Michael Turner.
- 12:06
Header at goal by Guy Demel hits the bar.
- 12:05
Corner from the taken by Mark Noble.
- 11:28
The ball is crossed by Razvan Rat.
- 11:17
Kevin Nolan takes a shot. A parry by John Ruddy prevents the goal.
- 10:42
Stewart Downing fires a strike on goal direct from the free kick. Michael Turner gets a block in.
- 9:33
Kevin Nolan fouled by Michael Turner, the ref awards a free kick.
- 9:24
A cross is delivered by Jack Collison.
- 6:52
A cross is delivered by Razvan Rat.
- 6:07
Clearance by James Tomkins.
- 5:39
The ball is sent over by Anthony Pilkington.
- 4:16
Russell Martin gives away a free kick for an unfair challenge on Joe Cole.
- 3:19
Jonathan Howson concedes a free kick for a foul on James Tomkins.
- 3:19
Jonathan Howson gives away a free kick for an unfair challenge on James Tomkins.
- 1:42
Clearance made by James Collins.
- 0:08
Russell Martin manages to make a clearance.
The match has kicked off.
Match Preview
Hughton calls for patience Manager Chris Hughton insists patience on and off the pitch will be the key to turning Norwich's season around. The Canaries host West Ham in Saturday's late kick-off looking to respond to the 7-0 humiliation at Manchester City, which was the Norfolk club's sixth defeat in their opening 10 Barclays Premier League matches and leaves them slumped in 18th place. Having lost to both Chelsea and Arsenal before being taken apart by Manuel Pellegrini's men, Norwich now enter a run of fixtures from which they would expect a positive return to start moving up the table. However, Hughton maintains the team will not be about to lose sight of the bigger picture even if things do not immediately go to plan from kick-off against the Irons. "Yes, possibly there will be times during the game when it might be difficult to break down a side like West Ham, who have been defensively very good, and that is when we might need a little bit of patience - that applies to the team as much as the supporters," said Hughton. "We can't be throwing players forward at will. We have to get things right tactically so that might mean there are periods or lulls in the game which might lead to some frustrations. "All I can say is I know our supporters have been right behind us this season and that will not change this weekend - we will need them again." Hughton may be short odds to become the next Premier League manager fired, but the former Newcastle and Birmingham boss is not about to hit the panic button just yet. "There is no need to set the alarm bells ringing," said Hughton. "If we win on Saturday we go above West Ham and it changes the perceptions a little bit." Hughton retains the backing of the boardroom - although it was only a few weeks ago chairman Alan Bowkett warned the expectation was of a top-10 finish following an unprecedented summer investment of some B#25million to improve the squad. "I am convinced I will get the time to turn it around," Hughton said at a press conference. "We are possibly one or two results from being in a half decent position in the league, so it is not as if we are bottom and cut adrift. "That, of course, doesn't make the feeling any better and we don't want to be in the bottom three, but we have everybody pushing in the right direction." Hughton added: "I speak to the chief executive and the board on a regular basis and there isn't anyone at this football club who doesn't want us to make progress. "Everybody is hurting right now - not just me and the players, but the board and the fans. We all want the same things." Norwich expect to have Scotland winger Robert Snodgrass available following concussion against West Ham but midfielder Nathan Redmond (hip) is a doubt while record-signing Ricky van Wolfswinkel remains out with a foot injury. West Ham will be without Winston Reid (ankle) although fellow defender James Collins is available following a hamstring complaint. The Hammers' forward options remain limited with Andy Carroll (heel) and Mladen Petric (thigh) both ruled out while Matthew Taylor (thigh), George McCartney and Alou Diarra (both knee) are also absent. West Ham manager Sam Allardyce wants to see an improved goal return throughout his entire team as the Hammers look to shoot down Norwich. Both sides meet in Norfolk having only won two games apiece in their opening 10 Premier League fixtures this season. Club-record signing Carroll has yet to feature for West Ham this season and, with only the late arrivals of Petric and a returning Carlton Cole, Allardyce has opted to play a system without a recognised striker in recent weeks. That tactic worked to perfection at White Hart Lane as the Hammers secured a memorable 3-0 over London rivals Tottenham but, having found the back of the net only five other times so far, Allardyce wants all of his players to take some of the goalscoring burden. "People point to the fact that we haven't got Andy Carroll or we haven't played with a front man recently but it's not just that as to why we're down on our goal count from last year," he said. "We're down on all players scoring a few more last season than they have done this season. The main contribution to us finishing 10th last season was that most players in our squad actually scored a goal. "Very few players in the squad didn't got a goal. Whether that was from set-plays or open play it was very, very good from the point of view that we were in the Premier League for the first season."
West Ham
- John Ruddy
- Russell Martin
- Michael Turner
- Ryan Bennett
- Martin Olsson
- Robert Snodgrass
- Jonathan Howson
- Leroy Fer
- Anthony Pilkington
- Johan Elmander
- Gary Hooper
- Steven Whittaker
- Bradley Johnson
- Sebastien Bassong
- Mark Bunn
- Wes Hoolahan
- Luciano Becchio
- Nathan Redmond
- Jussi Jaaskelainen
- Guy Demel
- James Collins
- James Tomkins
- Razvan Rat
- Jack Collison
- Mark Noble
- Stewart Downing
- Ravel Morrison
- Joe Cole
- Kevin Nolan
- George McCartney
- Matthew Jarvis
- Modibo Maiga
- Adrian
- Joey O'Brien
- Mohamed Diame
- Carlton Cole
Match Report
Form Guide
- Norwich
- West Ham LLWLDD
Last Meetings
- West Ham
- 2 - 1
- Norwich
- 01/01/2013
- Norwich
- 0 - 0
- West Ham
- 15/09/2012
- West Ham
- 2 - 2
- Norwich
- 11/03/1995
- Norwich
- 1 - 0
- West Ham
- 27/08/1994
- West Ham
- 3 - 3
- Norwich
- 24/01/1994
- Norwich
- 0 - 0
- West Ham
- 23/10/1993
Top Scorers
- J Howson 2
- S Whittaker 1
- A Pilkington 1
- R van Wolfswinkel 1
- N Redmond 1
West Ham
- R Vaz Te 2
- R Morrison 2
- J Cole 1
- K Nolan 1
- W Reid 1
- Total goals 26
- Goals per game 6
- (For) 1 (Against) Period 0-10 mins
- (For) 3 (Against) Period 11-20 mins
- (For) 4 (Against) Period 21-30 mins
- 1 (For) 1 (Against) Period 31-40 mins
- (For) 1 (Against) Period 41-50 mins
- 1 (For) 2 (Against) Period 51-60 mins
- 3 (For) 2 (Against) Period 61-70 mins
- 1 (For) 1 (Against) Period 71-80 mins
- (For) 5 (Against) Period 81-90 mins
West Ham
- Total goals 28
- Goals per game 8
- 1 (For) 2 (Against) Period 11-20 mins
- 1 (For) Period 31-40 mins
- 1 (For) 1 (Against) Period 51-60 mins
- 1 (For) 1 (Against) Period 61-70 mins
- 4 (For) 1 (Against) Period 71-80 mins
- (For) 3 (Against) Period 81-90 mins


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Baby mama probably got pregnant on purpose thinking she could hold on to the man-finds out ain't nothin' happening and gets mad. (Hint: The new woman probably doesn't have kids)
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when the mother, who you are not married to, of one or more of your children starts negatively interferring with your life, especially where other women are concerned; consists frequently of open public displays of anger and loud verbal assaults, hand gestures, head-shaking, etc.; The goal is to cause the father embarrassment either in front of his new lady friend, his close male friends, or his immediate family; it provides the baby mama a brief feeling of control in a situation where she typically has none as a struggling single mom.
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Phonomena where the black female 'single' parent lives her life as a narrative where the father of at least one of her children is blamed for any or all of her life challenges.
Since you've been with your new boyfriend all I get from you is Baby Mama Drama.
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October 08, 2009
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While waiting on the bus stop, a young couple begin to have an argument about the young mother being respected by the young father. As the argument begin to escalate into physical argument between the two. Now realizing their surroundings and the adults around them an addition to their small four month old daughter in the carrier. The mother tells the father. That he amounts to nothing and to just leave her alone. The young father turns and says f**k you you hoodrats. You're nothing but baby mama drama.
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That Jocasta, Queen of Thebes! She has her son, Oedipus, kill her husband then marries the boy!! What a bunch of babymamadrama!!
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March 09, 2007
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Almost anyone with basic skills and tools can provide you with clean windows at your home or small business. Naturally that's what any window washer in the St. Louis, MO area needs to achieve if he or she wants to stay in business. At Crystal Clean, we go beyond merely cleaning glass. We believe the total service experience is even more important than dazzling views. Our goal is to structure a service experience that instills a sense of trust, satisfaction and brilliant clarity that you'll continue to enjoy long after we've gone. From your exquisite casements in the front room to the broad Palladian picture windows overlooking the pool to the workaday sashes in the laundry, our work and attitude shine. Perfectly. Completely. Reliably. Honestly. In fact, we're so confident that you'll love our family-friendly service that we make the same rock-solid promise to every customer: If you aren't happy with any aspect of your Crystal Clean experience, you don't owe us a penny!
Selecting any home service provider without knowing something about them as individuals and their work ethic can be worrisome. After all, none of us generally open our front doors to just anybody without at least some basic introductions. Too many service providers fail to realize that a home is much more than a structure--a home is a physical manifestation of cherished personal intimacies and inter-family relationships and memories. And window cleaners certainly aren't your typical service providers, limited to just one or two rooms. We of necessity work in virtually every space in your home. So it's paramount that you feel comfortable about not only our work standards but who we are as people. As customer, you get to decide: Are we worthy of your trust?
The purpose of this website is to assist you in making that determination. We aim to provide you with precisely the information you need to make an informed decision about inviting Crystal Clean into your home.
Feel free to browse around--get to know us and what we do. Meet our crew to learn about our story and how washing windows is really a means to a larger end of working together as a family. Under Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ) you will find answers about window washing and window washers, including what you can expect to pay for window cleaning services. The Testimonials page gives you a sample of what some of our customers say (yea, even rave!) about the service they received from Crystal Clean.
We've also built a link for those of you thinking about putting your house on the market or know someone who is---find out the details of how clean windows are a wonderfully effective way to improve a house's marketability.
This link is for parking fun stuff relevant to window washing we thought you might enjoy.
We offer free estimates and will be happy to tailor a package of services that will best meet your unique set of needs. We feature attractive service contract discounts that will automatically guarantee that your windows will be cleaned as often as you specify, from weekly to yearly or any time in between. We also offer you discounts for large jobs and seasonal promotionals. We'd be honored should you allow us to be of service.
If you have questions or would like to arrange for service, please don't hesitate to contact us via e-mail or call us at 314-578-9414. We look forward to meeting you!