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uh oh..white moldy stuff in pond? dead fish...
hi all..last week I saw a couple of my goldfish dead in the ice on my pond. Well, now the ice is melting and I was able to get them out, and I noticed white moldy looking stuff in the string algae on the sides of the pond. It's very white, as white as snow..what the heck is it? I am thinking it contributed to the death of my goldfish. I thought they would survive the winter being the pond is 3' at its deepest. I was nervous this being my pond's first winter, and had brought in my 1 Koi in late fall..now I am so glad I did. I wanted to keep the pump running all winter in the middle of the pond, kinda like a fountain affect to keep somewhat of a hole open for the fish, but DH wouldnt go for it, or a heater, or a bubbler..now I have dead fishies :(
OK, yeah, I am partly blaming him, lol.
I am also thinking that now I will have to completely empty and clean the whole pond come spring due to this weird white stuff.
Am I right in thinking I will have to completely empty & clean it? Any clues as to what it is? I hope my frogs are alive!!
O, I do have submerged plants in there if it matters..waterlilies, thalia dealbata, & yellow water iris. Also left some watercress floating, which amazingly stayed alive and well thru quite a few freezes..till the whole pond froze up for the first extended time a few weeks ago.
I can't believe the string algae is still alive..and really multiplied (?) over the winter..it amazes me how much of it there is. Poor fishies probably had no oxygen. I feel terrible I killed them.
FYI, most of us that run bubblers use cheapies from WalMart/Target/KMart. We buy "interior" aquairium bubblers. Usual cost is about $15-20. With airstones and tubes around $25 total. Electric cost is about $1.00/3 months. I leave mine running year round. I've found in the heat of summer, it helps the fish a lot.
Just make sure you have it in something that won't let it get wet.
This way even if pond freezes up, you are still providing 02 all winter long.
As for the white stuff? I have no idea. Perhaps Horton will pop on in. He's pretty smart about that stuff.
Thanks GB1, as you probably guessed the whole arguement over running something..anything over the winter was concerning the cost. I had no idea the bubblers were so cheap to run. I did have one set up for about a month, but it seemed like it was such a little amount it didnt seem like it was enough. Are there dif sizes? If so what do you use? I always just grab the cheapest ones, lol. I have a few, I should just go throw one in there tomorrow..there are 4 fish MIA that I havent seen, so they may still be alive. Either that or they died too & just stopped floating and went to the bottom.
Yeah the white stuff is pretty weird. I wanted to get a pic, but my camera has been acting up..a mind of its own.
Maybe I'll be able to get one tomorrow , maybe that could help.
thanks for the info GB1.
Get the "biggest" pump you can for $15-20. I have a model that has 2 air outputs. I also run 6" airstones. I tried a longer one, but it didn't work very well.
Don't worry so much about the "gallon" size that is on the box. In the summer you need to have a pump/filter running so that water coming back into the pond helps with 02.
In the winter, the cold water holds much more 02, so the air pumps do an excellent job keeping the fish alive.
daniellalell, try reading the information about bubblers etc, in the FAQ link supplied below. I is a good start to the subject.
Air pumps are, as Groundbeef pointed out, very inexpensive to run all winter.
Place the air pump in a shed or on in a lidded plastic container, if positioned outside.
The container that holds the pump, should have a small hole drilled into it to allow the air to enter the pump.
Keep it up so as it will not be covered with snow.
Some folks tie the container up about three feet. tied on a stick, to keep it out of the snow. Others have the air pump container covered with a large planting pot, to keep it clear of snow.
Use the blue coloured, silicone aquarium tubing,to connect the pump to the air stone. it is much more pliable than ordinary pvc tubing and should not crack with the cold temperatures.
A small air stone placed 6 to 10 inches under the surface of the water, completes the bubbler assembly. Now you are ready to plug into the GFCI receptacle and power up the air pump. An air stone bubbler is the least expensive method of maintaining a vent hole in the ice covering your pond.
Keeping an electrical powered trough heater/deicer as a stand-by is a wise move.
You don't have to have it plugged in all the time. It is just there in case something does go wrong with the air stone pump arrangement, until it can be fixed and put back in service
Here is a link that might be useful: How to winterise a pond from the FAO
Im not sure about the white stuff. But the fact that the pond was frozen solid for any length of time was why your fishies died. It casues a build up of toxic gas that can not escape.
I run a Swimskim. It a free floating skimmer that shoots air out the outlet striahgt down in the pond. Causing a mixing effect in the water. the bubble help bring the warmers water to the surface and keep the wateer circulation. I had to shut off my main pump due to the unnormal cold weather we had this year. Only a few times I had to go out with some hot water and free up the swimskim. It was only in the single digits for several days when that happened. My 8 goldies and 3 koi are happy albeit cold. LOL
thanks for the info. I alreday have a bubbler set up today. Will get a bigger one when i get to go to the store.
I had read up on all the winterizing stuff, I knew everything I had to do..but ya know, since it's not important to DH, only me..it doesnt matter. I wont even get started on that!
GB, yeah during the warmer weather I have a normal pump going as well as a filter and small waterfall, which hopefully will be made bigger this spring. I have pix in the gallery.
I was trying to keep a hole open, I have duck decoys floating in the pond, and when it would freeze, I would pop them out so there was a hole, but the last time the pond froze, the ice was so thick, I couldnt get the ducks out to open up the holes. Well, lesson learned and next winter, I dont care what DH says, the bubbler will be going aaaalllll winter.
So no clues as to the white stuff then? Not even you Horton? hmmmmm..mystery stuff..figures it would happen to me, lol.
Bill, it sure was a cold winter this year! Glad your fishies are doing well!
When algae dies it can have a whitish appearance, though obviously fibrous and recognizable. If the ice and snow cover was dense and the aquatic plants could not get light, algae is likely to die and leave dead white remnants
When fish and plants respire, they give off carbon dioxide, that can combine with minerals to form calcium carbonate, chalk and limestone, which can deposit on surfaces. Harmless stuff, very normal, rather whitish
When herons hunt, or ducks feed they poop in the water, this can leave tacky looking traces of the same white stuff, this can delude fish into coming out of cover...
Most likely the white stuff that you are seeing is probably fungus that will grow on decaying organic materials. I would guess that you probably have four areas of this white material. I am sorry to say that the decaying material is probably the four fish that are missing.
I'm in northeast MD so my winter has probably been similar to yours. This was also my first winter with my pond-also about 3' at its deepest (mine is around 600 gallons). I had turned off the filer/pump when ice started forming regularly on the pond. I did put in a small cheap Walmart bubbler with just the clear tubing (and a check valve) and 6' stone suspended about 8' below the surface. On the coldest days, there was still at least a 14" diameter open in the ice. Ice didn't get over 3" thick-more like 2" at thickest. Pond is next to house but only gets half day sunlight.
All 6 of my goldfish and my 2 minnows appear to be doing well. Four large green frogs that had been on the bottom died-they were covered with a white film. I had seen two of the frogs during a late Dec. warmup so maybe they're victims of quick temperature fluctuation. One pickerel frog still survives.
I had removed almost all leaf litter in late Nov. but marginals and lilies stayed in the pond. I haven't seen any white stuff other than that on the dead frogs. The liner is covered with green film that is getting brighter with increasing daylight.
I hope that's useful for comparison.
Thanks everyone!
O..ew, I am so glad I havent poked the white stuff with my fingers, lol.
Riverspots, my frogs did the same thing when we had that short warm up..I couldn't believe they were all out and about. I wonder if that was temp fluc is what made them meet their maker? I was worried when I saw mine out. I guess I may have to go catch some new frogs this spring. I was hoping they would winter over in the lotus pond. It seemed the best place for them, but they all decided to go into the biggest pond. The kids won't be happy if thats what the white stuff is..they named all the frogs...I told them not to, lol, but they're kids.
The white stuff is in the algae, or surrrounded by it, so hopefully like you say SDavis, maybe it's dead algae..but if that were the case I think there would be more? I can hope! Its def not chalk, or limestone tho, and no water foul visit my ponds..just the mourning doves that drink out of one of the smaller ponds. That pond froze soild, but had no fish in it.
thanks Mike, if the white spots are dead things, either the fish or the frogs..I had no clue the would get white and icky..but now that I think about it more..the sizes seem right for either fish or frog.
poo! Live and learn. My first winter was nothing but a massacre of these poor helpless little creatures. An unexcusable failure. Next year I will do 2 bubblers, one on each end. thank goodness I brought in the Koi and some other fishies just in case. If the Koi had died I would have been really upset. And how things are looking out there, I'd say he def would have died.
thanks again to you all for all your help..I think this white mystery has been resolved..
Oops- just saw that the pickerel frog had died. It was alive and looked fine a week ago when I pulled out the dead green frogs. But it was near 70 here last weekend so maybe it warmed up even though stayed in the water. I think I'll encourage the frogs to find other winter accommodations this fall.
I'm also in NJ . Do as groundbeef said . You dont need to buy the most expensive, I buy the cheapest double air pump from walmart for about $10.00. Take a plastic soda bottle and cut the bottom off , slide the pump inside and stick the air tubes out the top of the bottle. This will keep the rain off it . Mine last for 2 years this way . I have 2 of these pumps in a 3000 gallon ponds . You only need one air hole in the ice . As for the white stuff , can it be a dead goldfish or a frog with fungus ? Rick
I keep seeing all these post about cheap air pumps. Let me tell you about a friend of mine that brought a cheap air pump from a big box store to put on his aquarium in his house. Well it caught fire and burned the room that the pump was in. It did about $9000.00 in damage. After the room was repaired and the aquarium was set back up he went to the same big box store and brought another cheap air pump. This time it burned the entire house to the ground. Yes this is a true story. A cheap air pump by the pond outside probably isn't going to due much damage but be careful where you put them.
I think the description of an aquarium air pump is being taken out of content. They are not "cheap" as in poorly manufactured. They are simply inexpensive. The air pump I own was manufactured by a well known company and carries a UL listing and warranty.
I purchased my air pump at Wal-Mart for $20. I saw the same exact model in a stylish pond store for $39. I guess it would not be a cheap pump if I purchased it from the pond store. Perhaps those of us who own one of these pumps should pretend we bought it at the stylish pond store and refrain from using the word "cheap".
I would doubt that it could be house wiring for a couple of reasons. One if the pump was functioning properly it would draw so little power that it could not have given even a poor outlet to have a problem. Second the point of origin would be totally different from an air pump versus an outlet or house electric.
If I had to guess as to the cause of these two fires would actually be a power outage. When the power goes out the pump is no longer pumping air and can actually start a siphon and get water inside the pump. In order for it to do this the valves in the pump have to leak a little. They have to leak the air in the tubing going to the air stone. If they are leaking air they will leak water. The water than probably got to electrical leads so that when the power came back on it shorted. This created enough heat to catch combustible materials on fire. But this just my guess.
@ Mike,
Thats a good theory. Either way, it still isn't the fault of the pump. If your friend had placed the airpump properly, (higher than the aquairium) it wouldn't have been an issue.
An "expenisive" pump is still held to the same laws of fluid dynamics. If the placement is such that siphon can occur, it will happen to a $15 or $5000 pump.-
Too bad it took him 2 fires to get it figured out.
Groundbeef that isn't quite true. Yes they all tell you to put them above the surface of the water but that isn't always the nicest place to put them. I use quite a few better quality air pumps and I have found that they have a better reed valve in them with a lot less problems with siphoning but even if they do all that happens is water leaks out on the floor. I have one that has been submersed in water twice and it still works just fine without drying it out. They all have metal housings so there is nothing to catch fire. Using an inexpensive air pump out doors is not a problem usually other than you are using an electrical devise some where it was not designed to be and then telling people here to use them and ways to protect them maybe. I don't think that is a wise decision but I could be wrong. God forbid if someone was to get hurt by this.
Mike- are they sure that the fire started at the pump and not the outlet the pump was plugged into? Any chance that water could have traveled back to the outlet via a heater cord? Did the room have GFI outlets? I've noticed that tanks can raise the room humidity quite a bit-almost as much as a vented shower.
I have to agree with GB-will all the aquarium stuff that the big box stores sell, it would have made the news by now if a pump was causing fires. I did a quick search-there was a recall in 2006 for an aquarium kit that contained an air pump-something about shock hazard-probably lack of grounding in one of the lamp cords. But nothing about air pumps.
well...I went out to the pond today as most of the ice has melted. Unfortunately, every critter that was unaccounted for is dead except 2 frogs I havent found yet. I'm sure they are dead somewhere.
I am def investing in a net this year. So much crap found its way into the pond..turns out the white stuff was a piece of newspaper, a piece of burger wrapper, and what looked like a wet napkin.
I'm pretty ticked..none of it was from me..was all stuff from litterbugs. There is also a plastic bag stuck way up in a tree where I cant reach it. The house next door has been vacant, and I suppose some of the crap came from over there. So much litter is in that yard, plus their garbage cans blew over awhile back into the backyard..guess they didnt take that last haul out b4 they moved.
I hope there arent any bags in my pond!!! God, people really p!ss me off. Someone threw an empty vodka bottle in my driveway the other day..what is wrong with people??? I need to move out into the middle of nowhere so I dont have to deal with this anymore.
Sorry about the rambling..guess I needed to vent.
BUT white stuff mystery solved. No fish living.
I have decided to empty & clean the whole thing come warmer weather, and start all over again. Maybe I will take some algae mixed with wet leaves from the pond, make balls out of it and whip it at people as they litter by my house..right at their heads..that could be fun. I could wear camo and hide in the bushes, lmao.
Sorry to hear about the fires..kinda odd it happened twice. But I'm not gonna get involved in all that lol.
daniellalell, sorry to read about the outcome of your frozen over pond.
I doubt that the newspaper/napkin/burger wrapper would kill your fish, but as you say that mystery, to what the "white stuff" was, is now solved. And it wasn't some exotic " killer blob" after all.
I guess in preparation for next winter a pond clean out in the fall is in order, to lessen the amount of decomposing plant wastes. Netting your pond over will help keep most of the leaves and errant 'burger wrappers etc, out of the water. And of course installing some device for keeping your pond vented throughout the winter, will go a long way in ensuring the health and welfare of your fish and frogs.
Keep your chin up, we have all gone through one or two of these mishaps and have learned from them.
Take care,
I haven't needed to buy a new air pump in a while but I seem to remember they all had instructions on using enough tubing to form a loop so such problems could be avoided and I thought the 'legs' on the newer Tetra models was a way to avoid the problem and a lot of tubing and air stones come with anti siphon devices. I even have a little shelf that hangs over the back of the tank so there is no excuse except stupidity which is no excuse.
The freeze has settled down on us again and we can expect several inches of new snow over the weekend. I really need to get my gardening prep started. I am determined to have home grown lotus this season. Sandy
Adding to Horton's advice about the netting. I purchased some fruit tree netting about five years ago and it works great. It is exactly the same as the "pond" netting, but somehow it sold for about half the price. Look for nylon netting with small enough holes to keep leaves and gargage out of your pond.
Sandy, my Tetra air pump from a "box store" has thoses funky legs that keep the motor from touching anything. Good point!
Thanks Horton! I had tried to keep up with the leaves getting into the pond in the fall, and it wasnt a hassle till December when it was really cold and there were still leaves falling! I dont know why the leaves fell so late this year. I gave up on keeping the leaves out of the gardens and pond in ealry December and that was the beginning of the end I guess. I can't believe how many are in there right now.
DEF will get a net!! I am glad the white stuff mystery is solved..I was really worried it was some kind of exotic killer fungal blob thing, lol. Thank you :)
Sandy, cold here again too..supposed to get snow tonight, blech! I'm so sick of it already! Not that we've had much snow..but the cold!! yuck! Good luck with your lotus! :)
John, thanks for that tip! I will def look for that!
thanks again everyone!
keeping my chin up!! :)
i had the same thing happen to me but i lost at least 25 lois and some gold fish ice melted and i was able to get them out i think the white stringy stuff may be oil for the dead fish i am starting to work on mine now i think i have to empty mine and start over not sure if any livied my pond is 14x16 and is a little over 3 feet deep


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PA prepares for gruelling yacht challenge
Forget the exotic image you may have of sailing - sitting in the sun on deck sipping a glass of Prosecco, watching the dolphins dive.
PA from Poplar Michelle Porter knows the real horror story as she ramps up her training for the Clipper Round The World Yacht Race.
The 35-year-old is one of 600 people taking part in the mammoth event after being chosen from 10,000 applicants.
And she's just returned from stage two of the training - nine days at sea off the south coast of England.
"The weather was pretty vile," said Michelle. "Cold and very wet. Putting on wet clothes shift after shift. We did three hours on and three hours off but on one day did a 8.30am to 10pm shift with crews constantly putting sails up and down.
"The weather was terrible and most of the crew were sick. I felt sick about six out of the nine days. There's certainly nothing glamorous about the clipper race."
The gruelling year-long challenge sees teams do battle in 70ft yachts over a 40,000 mile circumnavigation of the world, in conditions that range from tropical heat to winter storms. As well as the stints on the sea, Michelle trains daily at Corinthia Hotel in Whitehall with the health club's personal trainers.
Meanwhile, Michelle is continuing to raise the £43,000 needed to pay for the event, which will begin in July next year.
"I've got enough to go halfway round the world now and have also raised £5,000 to the Alzheimer's Society, which is dear to me as my grandfather had it," she said.
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Next: Load Suffixes, Up: Loading
Emacs Lisp has several interfaces for loading. For example,
creates a placeholder object for a function defined in a
file; trying to call the autoloading function loads the file to get the
function's real definition (see Autoload). require
loads a
file if it isn't already loaded (see Named Features). Ultimately,
all these facilities call the load
function to do the work.
This function finds and opens a file of Lisp code, evaluates all the forms in it, and closes the file.
To find the file,
first looks for a file named filename.elc, that is, for a file whose name is filename with the extension '.elc' appended. If such a file exists, it is loaded. If there is no file by that name, thenload
looks for a file named filename.el. If that file exists, it is loaded. Finally, if neither of those names is found,load
looks for a file named filename with nothing appended, and loads it if it exists. (Theload
function is not clever about looking at filename. In the perverse case of a file named foo.el.el, evaluation of(load "foo.el")
will indeed find it.)If Auto Compression mode is enabled, as it is by default, then if
can not find a file, it searches for a compressed version of the file before trying other file names. It decompresses and loads it if it exists. It looks for compressed versions by appending each of the suffixes injka-compr-load-suffixes
to the file name. The value of this variable must be a list of strings. Its standard value is(".gz")
.If the optional argument nosuffix is non-
, thenload
does not try the suffixes '.elc' and '.el'. In this case, you must specify the precise file name you want, except that, if Auto Compression mode is enabled,load
will still usejka-compr-load-suffixes
to find compressed versions. By specifying the precise file name and usingt
for nosuffix, you can prevent file names like foo.el.el from being tried.If the optional argument must-suffix is non-
, thenload
insists that the file name used must end in either '.el' or '.elc' (possibly extended with a compression suffix), unless it contains an explicit directory name.If the option
is non-nil
, then when searching suffixes,load
selects whichever version of a file ('.elc', '.el', etc.) has been modified most recently.If filename is a relative file name, such as foo or baz/foo.bar,
searches for the file using the variableload-path
. It appends filename to each of the directories listed inload-path
, and loads the first file it finds whose name matches. The current default directory is tried only if it is specified inload-path
, wherenil
stands for the default directory.load
tries all three possible suffixes in the first directory inload-path
, then all three suffixes in the second directory, and so on. See Library Search.Whatever the name under which the file is eventually found, and the directory where Emacs found it, Emacs sets the value of the variable
to that file's name.If you get a warning that foo.elc is older than foo.el, it means you should consider recompiling foo.el. See Byte Compilation.
When loading a source file (not compiled),
performs character set translation just as Emacs would do when visiting the file. See Coding Systems.When loading an uncompiled file, Emacs tries to expand any macros that the file contains (see Macros). We refer to this as eager macro expansion. Doing this (rather than deferring the expansion until the relevant code runs) can significantly speed up the execution of uncompiled code. Sometimes, this macro expansion cannot be done, owing to a cyclic dependency. In the simplest example of this, the file you are loading refers to a macro defined in another file, and that file in turn requires the file you are loading. This is generally harmless. Emacs prints a warning ('Eager macro-expansion skipped due to cycle...') giving details of the problem, but it still loads the file, just leaving the macro unexpanded for now. You may wish to restructure your code so that this does not happen. Loading a compiled file does not cause macroexpansion, because this should already have happened during compilation. See Compiling Macros.
Messages like 'Loading foo...' and 'Loading foo...done' appear in the echo area during loading unless nomessage is non-
.Any unhandled errors while loading a file terminate loading. If the load was done for the sake of
, any function definitions made during the loading are undone.If
can't find the file to load, then normally it signals the errorfile-error
(with 'Cannot open load file filename'). But if missing-ok is non-nil
, thenload
just returnsnil
.You can use the variable
to specify a function forload
to use instead ofread
for reading expressions. See below.
if the file loads successfully.
This command loads the file filename. If filename is a relative file name, then the current default directory is assumed. This command does not use
, and does not append suffixes. However, it does look for compressed versions (if Auto Compression Mode is enabled). Use this command if you wish to specify precisely the file name to load.
This command loads the library named library. It is equivalent to
, except for the way it reads its argument interactively. See Lisp Libraries.
This variable is non-
if Emacs is in the process of loading a file, and it isnil
When Emacs is in the process of loading a file, this variable's value is the name of that file, as Emacs found it during the search described earlier in this section.
This variable specifies an alternate expression-reading function for
to use instead ofread
. The function should accept one argument, just asread
does.Normally, the variable's value is
, which means those functions should useread
.Instead of using this variable, it is cleaner to use another, newer feature: to pass the function as the read-function argument to
. See Eval.
For information about how load
is used in building Emacs, see
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The inmate, Terrance Kassis Washington, 31, was transported from the Detention Center by the Detention Center's Transportation Unit to be seen by emergency room staff at the hospital for a medical condition. While traveling to the hospital Washington managed to free himself from the leg irons, belly chain and handcuffs that were placed on him for the transport. Once at the hospital Washington fled from transport officers as soon as the vehicle door was opened.
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Significant legislation has been introduced with AH&LA support to provide relief for ADA compliance on pool lifts. So my ADA expert partner, Marty Orlick, and I thought it might be helpful to explain what is going on, and what it likely means to you. Here is what is happening . . .
One year delay for ADA pool lift requirement
On March 26, 2012, the AH&LA announced support for legislation introduced to force a 1 year delay in enforcing the ADA pool lift requirement. The bill was introduced by Congressman Mick Mulvaney (R-SC) and has 26 original co-sponsors.
Authorize portable pool lifts, sharing lifts and protection for hoteliers during delay
In addition to delaying effectiveness of the pool lift requirement that was originally scheduled to be effective March 15, 2012 and then delayed 90 days until May 15, 2012, the proposed legislation would give some other much-sought-after relief.
It would allow the use of portable pool lifts, and allow sharing of lifts among pools. Both of these alternatives were belatedly prohibited by the Department of Justice's January 31, 2012 interpretation of its final rules, and would be overturned by the legislation if adopted.
Significant relief for the hotel industry
According to AH&LA President/CEO Joe McInerney. "Portable lifts will allow hoteliers to protect guest safety, while accommodating guests with disabilities. The delay will allow hoteliers the time to implement the necessary changes without the fear of lawsuits."
The March 15, 2012 compliance date remains in effect for all other provisions of the 2010 Standards.
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M-102 (Michigan highway)
8 Mile Road | ||||
M-102 highlighted in red
Route information | ||||
Maintained by MDOT | ||||
Length: | 20.804 mi[3] (33.481 km) | |||
Existed: | c. 1928[1][2] – present | |||
Major junctions | ||||
West end: | M‑5 at Livonia | |||
US 24 at Southfield |
East end: | I‑94 at Harper Woods | |||
Location | ||||
Counties: | Wayne, Oakland, Macomb County | |||
Highway system | ||||
M-102 is a state trunkline highway in the US state of Michigan that runs along the northern boundary of Detroit following 8 Mile Road. The highway follows the Michigan Baseline, a part of the land survey of the state, and the roadway is also called Base Line Road in places. As a county road or city street, 8 Mile Road extends both east and west of the M-102 designation, which leaves 8 Mile on the eastern end to follow Vernier Road. The western terminus of M-102 is at the junction of 8 Mile Road and M-5 (Grand River Avenue) and the opposite end is at Vernier Road and Interstate 94 (I-94). The 8 Mile Road name extends west to Pontiac Trail near South Lyon with a discontinuous segment located west of US Highway 23 (US 23). The eastern end of 8 Mile Road is in Grosse Pointe Woods near I-94.
The highway was first designated in the late 1920s, connecting US Highway 10 (US 10, Woodward Avenue, now M-1) with US 25 (Gratiot Avenue, now M-3). Extensions to the highway designation moved the termini in the 1930s and 1940s east to M-29 (Jefferson Avenue) and US 16 (Grand River Avenue, now M-5). A change in the 1960s added a section of north–south roadway to the eastern end of M-102; that change was reversed within about a year. A western extension along Grand River Avenue in 1977 was reversed in 1994, and M-102 has remained the same since.
8 Mile Road has carried major cultural significance; since the mid-20th century, as the city demographics have changed, it has served as a physical and cultural dividing line between the wealthier, predominantly white northern suburbs of Detroit and the poorer, increasingly black city. The racial patterns have changed, as more middle-class African Americans have also moved north of 8 Mile, but the socioeconomic divide between the city and suburbs remains.
Route description[edit]
Starting at an intersection with Hamburg Road along the Livingston–Washtenaw county line, 8 Mile Road runs eastward to an interchange with US 23 near Whitmore Lake. There is a gap before 8 Mile Road resumes at Pontiac Trail along the Oakland–Washtenaw county line. Near the suburb of Northville, the road curves northward into Oakland County, and Base Line Road follows the county line for about one mile (1.6 km). The road meets I-96/I-275 at that freeway's exit 167 along the border between Livonia and Farmington Hills.[4] As its name implies, 8 Mile Road runs east–west eight miles (13 km) north of the origin of the Mile Road System at Michigan and Woodward avenues.[5]
M-102 starts at the intersection between M-5 (Grand River Avenue) and 8 Mile Road and runs eastward along 8 Mile Road. The highway widens out into a boulevard setup with each direction divided by a central median. Motorists that want to make a left turn along 8 Mile Road have to perform a Michigan left to do so. Starting at the Inkster Road intersection, M-102 forms the boundary between Redford to the south and Southfield to the north. East of Five Points Road, the 8 Mile follows the northern city limits of Detroit. On either side of 8 Mile Road, the area is filled with residential neighborhoods of the two cities with commercial businesses immediately adjacent to the highway. About two miles (3.2 km) east of its starting point, M-102 intersects US 24 (Telegraph Road) at a cloverleaf interchange near Frisbee-Pembroke Park and Plum Hollow Country Club.[6][7] Along the length of the eight-lane highway, there are large power line towers in the median.[8]
Continuing east, M-102 intersects M-39 (Southfield Freeway) and M-10 (Lodge Freeway) south of the Southfield campus of Oakland Community College and the Northland Center Mall. As the highway approaches M-1 (Woodward Avenue), there are a pair of service drives that split from the main roadway in each direction to provide access through the interchange with M-1. The main lanes of M-102 pass under M-1 and its ramp connections before the service drives merge back in on the other side. This interchange is located adjacent to the Michigan State Fairgrounds, former site of the now-defunct Michigan State Fair, and Woodlawn Cemetery.[6][7] East of the fairgrounds, the highway crosses a line of the Canadian National Railway that also carries Amtrak passenger traffic;[9] the line is south of a rail terminal in Ferndale. Further east, M-102 meets I-75 before intersecting Dequindre Road. Dequindre is the boundary between Oakland and Macomb counties.[6][7]
Now following the Wayne–Macomb county line, M-102 separates Warren from Detroit. The highway also runs parallel to, and about a half mile (0.8 km) north of Outer Drive,[6][7] the original beltway highway proposed in 1918 to encircle Detroit.[10] The road passes the Mound Road Engine facility, a former Chrysler plant next to the Mound Road intersection. East of the plant,[6][7] the highway crosses a branch line of the Conrail Shared Assets Operations on the east side of the plant complex[9] before intersecting M-53 (Van Dyke Road).[6][7] Further east, 8 Mile Road passes north of the Bel Air Center Shopping Center before crossing another Canadian National Railway line[9] next to the intersection with M-97 (Groesbeck Highway).[6][7]
On the far east side of Detroit, M-102 separates the city from the suburb of Eastpointe once near the intersection with M-3 (Gratiot Avenue). Near Kelly Road and the Eastland Center, the highway turns southeasterly along Vernier Road to enter Harper Woods in Wayne County; 8 Mile Road continues due eastward along the county line in this suburb as a four-lane undivided urban arterial street. The eastern terminus of M-102 is at the interchange between Vernier Road and I-94 about 1,700 feet (520 m) south of 8 Mile Road near the boundary with Grosse Pointe Woods.[6][7]
M-102 was first designated along 8 Mile Road from US 10 (Woodward Avenue, now M-1) to US 25 (Gratiot Avenue, now M-3) in late 1928 or early 1929.[1][2] In 1939, the eastern terminus was moved as M-102 was extended along 8 Mile and Vernier Roads to end in Grosse Pointe Shores at M-29 (Jefferson Avenue).[11][12] The highway was extended in the early 1940s from Woodward westward to US 16 (Grand River Avenue, now M-5).[13][14]
During 1963, the M-102 designation was extended northerly along Jefferson Avenue through St. Clair Shores, replacing the M-29 designation to the Shook Road interchange at the northern end of the then-existing I-94 freeway.[15][16] That extension was reversed the next year, and M-102 was scaled back to end at US 25 (Gratiot Avenue); the rest of 8 Mile and Vernier roads plus the Jefferson Avenue segment are added to M-29 instead.[16][17] M-102 was re-extended along 8 Mile and Vernier roads to the I-94 interchange in Harper Woods in 1970 replacing M-29; the remainder of that other highway along Vernier Road and Jefferson Avenue to Shook Road that was once part of M-102 was transferred to local control.[18][19]
When I-96 was completed in 1977, several highway designations were shifted in the Metro Detroit area. The Business Spur I-96 designation that had replaced US 16 was removed from Grand River Avenue. That roadway was signed as M-5 southward between 8 Mile Road and its present eastern terminus at I-96 while the remainder of Grand River Avenue and the stub freeway formerly part of I-96 that continued out to I-275 became part of M-102.[20][21] This extension to M-102 was reversed in October 1994 when M-5 was extended northwesterly along Grand River Avenue, the freeway and up the Haggerty Connector north of I-96 in Novi, replacing part of M-102 in the process.[22]
Cultural impact[edit]
Racial and economic divide[edit]
The road has long served as a de facto cultural dividing line between the predominantly poor black city and its wealthier, predominantly white northern suburbs. The perception of 8 Mile as the chief dividing line between racial groups and classes persists, in part because the suburban counties of Oakland and Macomb remain, on the whole, significantly whiter and more prosperous than the city of Detroit.[23] White residents are moving into Detroit; some are buying condos in the downtown area around Woodward Avenue, and other neighborhoods are becoming more ethnically diverse as well.[24]
According to the 2000 U.S. Census, the median family income for the city of Detroit, whose population was 81.55% African-American, was $33,853, and 26.1% of the population lived below the poverty line. By contrast, the median family income for Oakland County, whose population was 82.75% white, was $75,540, and only 5.5% of residents lived below the poverty line.[25] These results were compiled into an Index of Dissimilarity of 85.9 by researchers with Brown University and Florida State University, the highest score for a metropolitan area in the United States. After the 2010 Census, the index was computed as 79.6, which was a "substantial decline" in the words of the study's authors.[26]
In surveying[edit]
8 Mile Road is also known as Base Line Road, for it was used to set the baseline for the Public Land Survey System in Michigan. The system helped bring order to county boundaries, which had often been set in other states by geographic markers such as rivers, hills, and trees, and were therefore rather irregular. Today, the baseline forms the northern or southern boundary of many southern Michigan counties.[27]
In media[edit]
Tupac Shakur, Tim Roth, and Thandie Newton form the fictitious musical act Eight Mile Road in the 1997 film Gridlock'd, which is set in Detroit.[28] The movie 8 Mile, starring Detroit-area hip hop artist Eminem, as well as his songs "Lose Yourself" and "8 Mile", both take their names and cultural subject matter from the roadway.[24]
In addition to these film references, there are a number of songs that refer to 8 Mile Road, some of which include:
- Eminem – "Encore/Curtains Down"[29]
- Eminem – "Marshall Mathers"[30]
- Eminem – "Yellow Brick Road"[31]
- Eminem – "Mockingbird"[32]
- Obie Trice – "8 Mile"[33]
- Danny Brown – "8 Mile"
The roadway is also shown on TruTV's program Hardcore Pawn, a show about a pawn shop located on 8 Mile Road.[34]
Major intersections[edit]
County | Location | Mile[3] | km | Destinations | Notes |
Oakland–Wayne county line |
Farmington Hills–Livonia city line | 0.000 | 0.000 | M‑5 (Grand River Avenue) – Novi, Detroit 8 Mile Road west |
8 Mile Road extends westward to Pontiac Trail |
Southfield–Detroit city line | 2.187 | 3.520 | US 24 (Telegraph Road) – Pontiac, Detroit | Cloverleaf interchange | |
5.198 | 8.365 | M‑39 (Southfield Freeway) – Southfield, Detroit | |||
6.015 | 9.680 | M‑10 (Lodge Freeway) / Greenfield Road – Lansing, Detroit | Exit 13 on M-10; no control cities eastbound; grade separation at Greenfield Road with access via M-10 ramps | ||
Ferndale–Detroit city line | 10.059 | 16.188 | M‑1 (Woodward Avenue) – Pontiac, Detroit | Three-level diamond interchange | |
Hazel Park–Detroit city line | 11.577 | 18.631 | I‑75 (Chrysler Freeway) – Flint, Detroit | Exit 59 on I-75 | |
Macomb–Wayne county line |
Warren–Detroit city line | 15.159 | 24.396 | M‑53 (Van Dyke Road) – Warren, Detroit | |
16.290 | 26.216 | M‑97 (Groesbeck Highway) – Mount Clemens, Detroit | |||
Eastpointe–Detroit city line | 18.096 | 29.123 | M‑3 (Gratiot Avenue) – Mount Clemens, Detroit | ||
Eastpointe–Harper Woods city line | 19.731 | 31.754 | 8 Mile Road east | M-102 follows Vernier Road; 8 Mile continues east to Mack Avenue | |
Wayne | Harper Woods | 20.804 | 33.481 | I‑94 – Port Huron, Detroit Vernier Road east |
Exit 225 on I-94; Vernier Road continues east to Lake Shore Drive |
1.000 mi = 1.609 km; 1.000 km = 0.621 mi |
See also[edit]
- ^ a b Michigan State Highway Department (October 1, 1928). Official Highway Service Map (Map). Cartography by MSHD.
- ^ a b Michigan State Highway Department (May 1, 1929). Official Highway Service Map (Map). Cartography by MSHD.
- ^ a b Michigan Department of Transportation (2009). MDOT Physical Reference Finder Application (Map). Cartography by Michigan Center for Geographic Information. http://www.mcgi.state.mi.us/prfinder/. Retrieved March 28, 2008.
- ^ Michigan Department of Transportation (2012). State Transportation Map (Map). 1 in:2 mi / 1 cm:0.7 km. Section D3–D8, Detroit Area inset.
- ^ Gavrilovich, Peter; McGraw, Bill (2000). The Detroit Almanac: 300 Years of Life in the Motor City. Detroit: Detroit Free Press. pp. 20–1. ISBN 978-0-937247-34-1.
- ^ a b c d e f g h Michigan Department of Transportation (2012). State Transportation Map (Map). 1 in:15 mi / 1 cm:9 km. Section D8–D13, Detroit Area inset.
- ^ a b c d e f g h Google, Inc. "Overview Map of M-102 (8 Mile Road)". Google Maps (Map). Cartography by Google, Inc. http://maps.google.com/maps?saddr=W+8+Mile+Rd&daddr=42.44529,-83.17673+to:Edsel+Ford+Fwy+I-+94+Service%2FHarper+Ave&hl=en&ll=42.446261,-83.118439&spn=0.488442,0.466232&sll=42.494378,-83.128738&sspn=0.488067,0.466232&geocode=FVKchwId_KUI-w%3BFeqphwId5tIK-ymXNGqQR8kkiDFWc2LPWsTFEg%3BFZyshwIdOsYO-w&mra=ls&via=1&t=h&z=11. Retrieved June 11, 2012.
- ^ Alpert, Steve. "M-102, 8 Mile Road". Alp's Roads. Self-published. Retrieved June 11, 2012.
- ^ a b c Michigan Department of Transportation (January 2011) (PDF). Michigan's Railroad System (Map). http://www.michigan.gov/documents/MDOT_Official_Rail_130897_7.pdf. Retrieved February 1, 2011.
- ^ Guyette, Curt (August 4, 2004). "History of the Mystery". Metro Times (Detroit). ISSN 0746-4045. Retrieved June 12, 2012.
- ^ Michigan State Highway Department (April 15, 1939). 1939 Official Michigan Highway Map (Map). Cartography by Rand McNally (Summer ed.). Detroit & Vicinity inset.
- ^ Michigan State Highway Department (December 1, 1939). 1939 Official Michigan Highway Map (Map). Cartography by Rand McNally (Winter ed.). Detroit & Vicinity inset.
- ^ Michigan State Highway Department (July 1, 1941). 1941 Official Michigan Highway Map (Map). Cartography by Rand McNally (Summer ed.). Detroit & Vicinity inset.
- ^ Michigan State Highway Department (June 1, 1942). 1942 Official Michigan Highway Map (Map). Cartography by Rand McNally (Summer ed.). Detroit & Vicinity inset.
- ^ Michigan State Highway Department (1963). Official Highway Map (Map). Detroit Metropolitan Area inset.
- ^ a b Michigan State Highway Department (1964). Official Highway Map (Map). Detroit Metropolitan Area inset.
- ^ Michigan State Highway Department (1965). Official Highway Map (Map). Section B5, Detroit Metropolitan Area inset.
- ^ Michigan Department of State Highways (1970). Official Highway Map (Map). 1 in:14.5 mi. Section D10–B11, Detroit and Vicinity inset.
- ^ Michigan Department of State Highways (1971). Official Highway Map (Map). 1 in:14.5 mi. Section D10–B11, Detroit and Vicinity inset.
- ^ Michigan Department of State Highways and Transportation (1977). Official Transportation Map (Map). 1 in:3 mi. Cartography by MDSHT (1976–77 ed.). Section D5–E9, Detroit Area inset.
- ^ Michigan Department of State Highways and Transportation (1978). Official Transportation Map (Map). 1 in:3 mi. Cartography by MDSHT (1978–79 ed.). Section D5–E9, Detroit Area inset.
- ^ Greenwood, Tom (January 28, 1999). "M-5 'Haggerty Connector' Work To Be Done by 2001". The Detroit News.
- ^ "Blacks, whites show prejudices along racial divide". Honolulu Advertiser. Associated Press. September 28, 2008. Retrieved June 11, 2012.
- ^ a b Chinni, Dante (November 15, 2002). "Along Detroit's Eight Mile Road, a stark racial split". The Christian Science Monitor. Retrieved June 11, 2012.
- ^ "American FactFinder". United States Census Bureau. Retrieved January 31, 2008.
- ^ Logan, John R.; Stults, Brian (2011). "The Persistence of Segregation in the Metropolis: New Findings from the 2010 Census" (PDF). Census Brief prepared for Project US2010. Project US2010. p. 6. Retrieved June 11, 2012.
- ^ Jacobson, Daniel (July–August 1988). "Michigan Meridian and Base Line: A Teaching Formulation for the Secondary School". Journal of Geography 87 (4): 131–40. doi:10.1080/00221348808979779. ISSN 0022-1341.
- ^ Coker, Cheo Hodari (January 25, 1997). "Various Artists 'Gridlock'd: The Soundtrack', Death Row/Interscope". Los Angeles Times. Retrieved September 19, 2011.
- ^ Eminem (November 9, 2004). "Encore/Curtains Down" (12-inch vinyl single). Encore. Track 2. Shady Records, Aftermath Entertainment, Interscope Records.
- ^ Eminem (May 23, 2000). "Marshall Mathers" (Compact disc). The Marshall Mathers LP. Track 11. OCLC 44422298. Aftermath Entertainment, Interscope Records.
- ^ Eminem (November 12, 2004). "Yellow Brick Road" (Compact disc). Encore. Track 4. OCLC 56952031. Aftermath Entertainment, Interscope Records.
- ^ Eminem (November 12, 2004). "Mockingbird" (Compact disc). Encore. Track 16. OCLC 56952031. Aftermath Entertainment, Interscope Records.
- ^ Binelli, Mark (September 10, 2003). "Hot Rapper: Obie Trice". Rolling Stone. Retrieved January 22, 2008.
- ^ Stuever, Hank (December 27, 2010). "'Hardcore Pawn' Returns, with no Redeeming Value". The Washington Post. ISSN 0190-8286. Archived from the original on August 13, 2012. Retrieved August 12, 2012.
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By: BTBarry on December 8, 2010 - 7:54pm - Add new comment
In the course of this feature's life, I have given you a million excuses for why I always seem to post this online later and later. And here's another one!
I posted all this junk online from home. No idea why it didn't stick, but I have my suspicions it was the eeeevil BT censor Nazis.
By: BTBarry on December 5, 2010 - 11:31am - Add new comment
So, even though according to some bloggers I'm supposed to be so left wing I want to marry Keith Olbermann and adopt a million of his third-world babies, I actually do support our troops.
And when a local Marine battling cancer calls for civilians to grow crazy mustaches in support, I heed that call.
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There have been editions of Feeding Frenzy where I've eaten mouth-watering pork sandwiches and engaged in staggering feats of pizza eating, and then there have been editions where I eat dog food. This is closer to that second category.
By: BTBarry on November 29, 2010 - 9:30am - Add new comment
Yes, Black Friday is over, but it's never too late to make fun of someone who got up at 2 in the morning to wait for six hours in line to save $20 on a toaster.
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Allright, folks, we're hours away from kickoff, but if anyone wants to virtually tailgate before the game, here's where to go.
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No YOU always post stuff late. Shut up, quit judging me.
*cries silently in the corner*
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Chris Wuensch is still liveblogging the game for us, but due to some technical snafu-ry, he'll be phoning in updates and I'll be sharing them here on my blog. So keep this thread open during the game to get regular scoring updates as well as end-of-quarter breakdowns.
And please, comment away. We'll be including the most spirited among you in our coverage of the game in tomorrow's paper.
I'll also try to share photos here, so stay tuned.
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BT's homeboy Chris Wuensch will be liveblogging tonight's Class 3A Lower State Semifinal game from Kellytown Stadium in Hartsville, so follow along right here at blufftontoday.com.
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From 1997-2003, IIT hosted colleagues from institutions internationally and across the country for the Ethics Across the Curriculum summer workshops. Running seven days, these workshops allowed twenty participants from a variety of disciplines to discuss ways in meaningfully integrate ethics into undergraduate and graduate curricula. The workshop had been successfully offered to IIT faculty in 1991-1994, and a generous grant from the National Science Foundation allowed CSEP to expand the workshop to include participants from other institutions starting in 1994. Since then, a number of other institutions have started hosting their own workshops. See the links below for more information on past EAC schedules and an updated bibliography on integrating ethics into curriculum.
Summary of the workshops conducted by CSEP. It is designed to assist instructors with integrating ethics teaching into their course curricula, and includes handouts and short discussions of each topic covered during the week-long workshop.
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Upcoming workshops and conferences focusing on ethics education, teaching research ethics, and other events.
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Im going in for surgery on tues. they be using general anesthetic, should i stop smoking or does it not have any effect on the surgery? any replies would be greatly appreciated.
Im going in for surgery on tues. they be using general anesthetic, should i stop smoking or does it not have any effect on the surgery? any replies would be greatly appreciated.
hmm...type of surgery??
Hello, Fathead. The answer to your question is yes. Yes, you need to lay off smoking weed before your surgery/general anesthesia on Tuesday. You need to do this to keep your lungs clean and clear of smoke and irritants before you are going to be inhaling the anesthesia and oxygen that day. Stay away from cigarette smoke, pollution, smog, and dust, too. Take deep breaths of clean, clear air and practice expanding your lungs to their full extent. Hold those breaths. Then expel and do that again. 15 - 20 repetitions. Three to four times a day between now and Tuesday. Then keep that up for five to seven smoke-free days afterwards, too.
The weed likely doesn't have a negative effect on the anesthesia or other drugs themselves, but the truth is this hasn't been tested and so no one knows that for sure. Weed's strongest neurological and medicine-affecting effects wear off fairly fast. But people who smoke weed have a higher rate of bronchitis, lung infections, and irritation than people who don't. (Just like cigarette smokers do, too.) That's why every smoke-free minute you can give your lungs to make sure they're un-irritated and completely clear and ready to use that anesthesia efficiently will help.
Good luck with your surgery! Let us know how things turn out, OK?
sorry for the delay in responding, im getting a lump of fat removed from the back of my head. Ive smoked tabaco and weed for 20+ years, you think stopping for 3days is going to make a difference? anyways my wife is a rn so im going to stop anyways otherwise i will never hear the end of it. thanks for your info i will do the breathing excersizes and maybe quit smoking because of all this. cheers
i had severe surgery to the muscles on my leg,
i didnt smoke the night before, but i smoked right after surgery and it helped me ALLOT.
Why is marijuana not legal? Why is marijuana not legal?
It's a natural plant that grows in the dirt.
Do you know what's not natural?
80 year old dudes with hard-ons. That's not natural.
But we got pills for that.
We're dedicating all our medical resources to keeping the old guys erect,
but we're putting people in jail for something that grows in the dirt?
GONE but hopefully not forgotton
Well the Lump is gone and all is well so far. Sorry for the delayed response, forgot my password.
Glad you're back on your feet, as it were, and through with that surgery!
Hey, MrDevious. Sorry to hear you have to have surgery on Friday, but I'm glad you'll be working to keep your lungs clear until that's over. It really does help, both during and after surgery to have smoke-free, unirritated lungs. During surgery, clear lungs help you to use less anesthesia and use it more efficiently. And after the surgery's over, smoke-free lungs help keep you from getting pneumonia, which is easy to pick up in a hospital (and notoriously hard to get rid of afterwards), particularly if you've had thoracic (chest) or abdominal surgery and are having a hard time taking deep breaths because of post-operative pain. Good luck on Friday, and definitely let us know how you did afterwards. I'll be sending good thoughts!


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The volunteers saw a man who looked similar to suspect inside the Re-Store the day before, moving items around. He also just happened to have signed up to be a volunteer for Habitat for Humanity, so they had his name, address, and date of birth.
On December 7th, police arrested 47-year-old Jerry McDonald. Police say McDonald is also responsible for 10 other burglaries in the days and weeks after the Habitat for Humanity break-in – that included three burglaries at Jackson County Physical Therapy, and break-ins at restaurants, tire stores, and salons.
Medford Police say they have recovered some of the items stolen in the burglaries, but the executive director of Habitat for Humanity says they have not found any of their stolen property.