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Infanticide suddenly seems like a good thing…
Most people who read blogs probably assume that most bloggers want to appeal to as wide an audience as possible — and therefore, never to (gasp!) offend anybody.
Not me.
I don't think that I've ever come out and said it, but for these past almost 10 years of blogging, I've been writing primarily for those in my age group (Generation X) and younger.
If some baby boomers or even older folks read my blog, fine, but if they don't, perhaps that's even better, since I don't write for them. I long ago stopped looking to the baby boomers (generally identified as those born between 1946 and 1964, but to me the cohort really spans from about 1944 to 1960) to be agents of positive change, and I look to those in my age group and younger instead.
Most of my critics turn out to be (I see from their blog avatars) baby boomers. Before I take their criticism to heart, I look at their mugshot avatars. Chances are, they're boomers (who apparently think that an Internet presence makes them young again [it doesn't], and who of course have to plaster their faces on their blogs, being spotlight hogs). If they have a bio, I read that, too. Chances are, from their bios I surmise that they're people I wouldn't like in person, so it comes as no shock that I've written something that (gasp!) offends their delicate sensibilities. (People who act as though they have the fucking right never to be offended in the least bit – they're interesting. [Psychiatrically, I mean.])
I could write a book on the fucking baby boomers, but I'll try to keep this to a blog post, albeit a long one.
George W. Bush (born in 1946) could be the poster boy for the baby-boom generation.
He accomplished nothing on his own, but coasted on his family name. If George Sr. hadn't been president first, there's no way in hell that George Jr. would have been governor of Texas and then the second president named George Bush.
Not only that, but George Jr. in 2000 stole office (with the help of his brother Jeb, who then was the governor of Florida, the critical state that George Jr. "won"; with the help of then-Florida Secretary of State Katherine Harris, who infamously disenfranchised voters by deeming them felons when they were not; and with the help of the right-wing U.S. Supreme Court, which stopped the recounting process in Florida). George Jr. didn't even win the presidency outright.
Then, once in the Oval Office, George W. thoroughly trashed the nation, among other things allowing 9/11 to happen (remember the August 2001 presidential daily briefing titled "Bin Laden Determined to Strike in U.S."?), allowing Hurricane Katrina to kill hundreds of Americans, taking the nation to a bogus war for the no-bid federal-government contracts for Dick Cheney's Halliburton and the other oily subsidiaries of BushCheneyCorp, and giving giant tax breaks to the filthy rich. George W. Bush had received the nation in good shape from Bill Clinton and the prosperous 1990s, and delivered it to Barack Obama in January 2009 on the brink of collapse.
That, in a nutshell, is the baby-boomer modus operandi: inherit your power and your wealth from your parents, squander it selfishly and recklessly, and leave nothing behind for those who follow you, not even the polar ice caps.
Baby boomers unabashedly display a bumper sticker that reads "I'm Spending My Children's Inheritance." (I've seen this bumper sticker on cars driven by boomers several times.)
This is supposed to be funny. Ha ha.
Except that the baby boomers' parents, the members of the so-called "greatest generation," didn't spend their children's inheritance. They gave their children — the baby boomers – their inheritance.
Not so with the baby-boom generation, the first generation in the history of the United States of America that did not care in the fucking least about at least trying to leave things in better shape for those who must follow them.
The baby boomers, endlessly doted upon by their parents, had no problems going to college and getting good jobs. Hell, they didn't even have to go to college to live well. (Neither of my baby-boomer parents has a four-year college degree, but neither of them during their young to middle adulthood ever struggled with buying homes and cars. My four-year degree, on the other hand, which I worked hard for, was worthless when I received it — along with considerable student-loan debt — in 1990 during the first George Bush recession, and I gave up on having a paid job that allows me to make good use of my skills [without doing evil and without completely being exploited by some talentless plutocrats] and I gave up on home ownership long, long ago.) If the boomers put just a minimal effort into attaining a college degree, a good job, a home, a nice car, these things were theirs for the taking. The members of the "greatest generation" made sure of that.
But do the baby boomers today give a rat's ass about our young people of today?
Hell fucking no.
This is from The Associated Press today:
The college class of 2012 is in for a rude welcome to the world of work.
A weak labor market already has left half of young college graduates either jobless or underemployed in positions that don't fully use their skills and knowledge.
Young adults with bachelor's degrees are increasingly scraping by in lower-wage jobs — waiter or waitress, bartender, retail clerk or receptionist, for example — and that's confounding their hopes a degree would pay off despite higher tuition and mounting student loans.
An analysis of government data conducted for The Associated Press lays bare the highly uneven prospects for holders of bachelor's degrees. …
Again, when this Gen X'er received his worthless bachelor's degree in 1990 — a journalism degree, which in the face of mass newspaper layoffs at the time was worthless (and still would be mostly worthless today, although as a blogger it gives me a leg up) – there were not, to his recollection, any news stories about the fact that in the face of the recession, college degrees were worthless, and newly minted college graduates had to take jobs that greatly underutilized their talents and abilities — and struggle with student loans they couldn't afford to repay. (Massive student loan debt was something that the boomers did not experience when they were of college age and young adults because their parents saw them as young people to be fostered – not as cash cows to be milked dry.)
It would have been nice to get the media attention then that today's struggling young college grads are getting today — in my day, for instance, crushing student-loan debt wasn't seen as any problem whatsofuckingever, since my generation always has been viewed by the boomer majority as wholly disposable, but today, both the Democratic and the Repugnican candidates for president are promising to work on the suddenly-now-obvious problem of crushing student-loan debt — but, I suppose, better late than never. (And ah, well, as my fellow Gen X'er Ted Rall has noted, we X'ers indeed are the "leapfrog generation," the generation [between the boomers and Generation Y] that has been passed over entirely.)
Why have Gen-X and younger college grads struggled so much in the job market since at least the First Great Bush Recession (circa 1990)?
It's not just the economy, although the greedy, get-mine-and-get-out boomers fucked that up, too.
It's the boomers' sheer numbers — 76 million of them, according to Wikipedia — that alone would create at least some amount of scarcity in the American job market (and indeed, the majority of the plum jobs have been taken by the boomers for decades now), but their sheer numbers are coupled with the fact that, unlike the generations before them, they refuse to leave the fucking stage when their act has long been over. The boomers view their jobs just like the U.S. Supreme Court "justices" view theirs: We'll have to pry their cold, dead fingers from their desks.
Other generations of Americans knew when it was time to hand over the reins. And they handed them over. Not the boomers.
Witness baby boomer Madonna (born 1958), whose latest big video has her playing a high-school cheerleader. She's fiftyfuckingthree. It apparently kills her to fucking pass the torch already. And she's typical of her generation, thinking that she's some hot shit acting and trying to look decades younger than she is, when in fact, she's just fucking pathetic, refusing, like Peter Pan, to grow the fuck up already.
With the baby boomers we have and will continue to have a nation full of old people, but not old and wise people.
Baby boomers whine that they can't retire because they can't afford to retire. Bullshit. Most of them can afford to retire — it's that they want to live in excess and opulence ("enough" isn't in their vocabulary) and it's also that, whether they will admit it or not, out of their egotism they must believe that we younger folk can't get along without them.
As Wikipedia notes of the boomers (emphasis mine):
One feature of boomers was that they tended to think of themselves as a special generation, very different from those that had come before. In the 1960s, as the relatively large numbers of young people became teenagers and young adults, they, and those around them, created a very specific rhetoric around their cohort, and the change they were bringing about ….
Yes, indeed, all of that rhetoric from the boomers in the 1960s about changing the world, and boy, have they. They fought against the Vietnam War, only to create the Vietraq War themselves. (Apparently the only reason that they opposed the Vietnam War was to save their own skins. They were perfectly OK, however, with bogus warfare in Iraq. After all, it was someone else doing the dying for the baby boomers' profits.) The American empire, which is being sucked dry by the vampires who comprise the corporate-military-prison-industrial complex (the majority of them boomers, of course), is on the brink of death, and even the North Pole is melting. The baby boomers ushered in change, indeed.
The baby boomers are the first generation of Americans in the nation's history who are leaving things much worse off for the generations that follow them.
Before the boomers it always had been the American ideal that the current generation in power leaves things in better shape, not in worse shape, for the generations that follow them. And congratulations, boomers; your generation very apparently is the one that, history probably will record, destroyed the American empire. You fucked it all up on your watch.
Point out these obvious truths, and the boomers almost invariably will tell you (the post-boomer) how "Angry!" you are, as though you're defective for being angry about obvious injustices.
No, when you are being raped in the ass with ground grass for lube, you have every fucking right to be ANGRY!
The boomers are taking everything with them, shamelessly – and even bragging about it in their "funny" bumper stickers.
Here's another cheery story from The Associated Press today (emphases mine):
Social Security is rushing even faster toward insolvency, driven by retiring baby boomers, a weak economy and politicians' reluctance to take painful action to fix the huge retirement and disability program.
The trust funds that support Social Security will run dry in 2033 — three years earlier than previously projected — the government said [today].
There was no change in the year that Medicare's hospital insurance fund is projected to run out of money. It's still 2024. …
At age 44, I've been paying into Social Security and Medicare since I began working when I was a teenager, but I don't expect to see a fucking penny of either. The baby boomers are poised to blatantly steal my money — and slam me for being "so angry!" while they do it.
The boomers are leaving those of us who follow them with less than nothing, but we're supposed to think that they're great fucking people nonetheless. (Or, at least, we're supposed to keep our fucking mouths shut while the boomers screw us over like no other generation in U.S. history has screwed over the next generation ever before.)
That's part of the baby boomers' mass narcissistic sociopathology — they are a "special" generation, indeed – and the reason that I put the "greatest generation" in quotation marks is that I don't see how you can assert that the parents who created the most spoiled generation in the nation's history comprise the "greatest generation." No, in producing the baby boomers, the members of the "greatest generation" fucked up big-time. It's almost impossible to overstate what awful parents the members of the "greatest generation" were. Regardless of what their intentions might have been, the results of their parenting have been catastrophic for the nation — and for the world.
And the boomers' bumper sticker sums up their credo, their manifesto, indeed, their raison d'être, neatly: "I'm Spending My Children's Inheritance."
Yes, I got that long, long ago. Consequently, I stopped looking to the boomers long ago. The ones who created the colossal mess aren't the ones to fix it. The boomers exist to cause problems, not to solve problems, and to consume, not to produce. They are the problem, not the solution. They are, essentially, dead to me. That's why I could give a flying fuck if a single baby boomer ever reads a single blog post of mine.
I look not to the boomers, but to my fellow members of Gen X and to those poor souls who have to follow us. (I'd thought that my generation had it bad, but today's young people are even more screwed, apparently, than has been my generation. They do have one thing that my generation didn't have, however, and that's a national conversation about how badly today's young people have it.)
We, the post-boomers, are the clean-up crew. It's not a job that we wanted. It's a job that the boomers have forced upon us.
What the baby boomers probably should do while those of us who have had to follow them perform the incredibly difficult work of cleaning up after their decades-long wholesale trashing of the nation is shut the fuck up and be very thankful that the national conversation has not yet turned to the elephant in the room, to the root of our nation's problems: the baby boomers and the increasing burden on the nation that they are. And that we post-boomers have not yet begun to seriously discuss a much, much better use for the baby boomers: something along the lines of Soylent Green.
No need to read Robert Crook again ; that much is simple.
Read me. Or don't read me. I don't care. I'm a "slacker," remember?
Kathy: But will the world survive the baby boomers' mistakes? I mean, look at the scope of those mistakes! I find it unforgiveable, frankly. The boomers have been partying since the 1960s and the rest of us -- indeed, the rest of the world -- have been paying and will continue to pay the price.
The boomers had the numbers, the money and the power to push through any truly progressive agenda they truly wished to. Instead, they focused on their own selfish, ultimately petty interests -- especially in the mid- to late 1970s through the 1980s and into the 1990s we saw this -- at the expense not only of their fellow human beings, but of the entire planet itself.
We X'ers have never had the kind of strength that the boomers did. I believe that if we had, we would have put it to much, much better use than they did.
You must admit these facts before faulting us as much as you seem to, I think.
Our X'ers' best bet, in my book, is to align with Gen Y, although the boomers have done their best to make us invisible at best and to malign us at worst.
And note that Gen Y gets the attention -- and yes, the high-level jobs (some of them, anyway) -- that we X'ers never got. My guess is that since the boomers fucked over us X'ers and realize that they'll need SOMEONE to wipe their asses in the nursing homes, they've been kinder to Gen Y. But they care about Gen Y as much as they care about Gen X, which is ZERO, since they care only about themselves, being the fat swine that they always have been.
I have good reason to feel the way that I do. Usually, after I explain exactly why I feel the way that I do, people understand, even if they don't necessarily agree.
Except for the baby boomers. But their opinion means less than nothing to me anyway, as I believe I have established...
No, but seriously, there are commonalities in boomers. It has much to do with how spoiled they were. They grew up in our nation's most prosperous decades, and were coddled by their own parents, yet they refuse to help out today's young, whom they ignore or ridicule. I mean, look at how well they have received the Occupy movement! The boomers got theirs, so why should they care?
I attended anti-Vietraq-War protests before the bogus war even began, but what power did we X'ers have, short of becoming suicide bombers or the like, of stopping that war?
Baby boomers may not have invented certain evils, such as "Christo"fascism and war profiteering and corporateering and union-busting, but boy, did they perfect those evils!
That said, yes, there are a FEW truly progressive boomers here and there, but my uncle is a typical "liberal" boomer. He calls himself a "socialist" -- his word, not mine -- yet he's a (fairly wealthy, to my knowledge) U.S. military contractor (feeds at the trough of the military-industrial complex when a blind man could see that the military-industrial complex is bleeding the nation dry) and he freely offers that his condo on the watered-grass golf course in the desert of Tucson is not at all sustainable, but he sure loves it! He acknowledges that his lifestyle is harmful but has no intention whatsoever of changing it. That is a TYPICAL "progressive" baby boomer, so the admittedly right-wing ones are extremely corrosive.
All of this aside, even if they were wonderful people, the fact is that the boomers are poised to wipe out all of our resources. We are going to have tens of millions of old people we don't have the resources to care for. We've seen this catastrophe coming for decades but we have had our heads in the sand.
Finally, as I noted in the piece, I don't consider 1964 to be the cut-off for the boomers. I consider 1960 to be the cut-off. My boyfriend was born in 1962 (his birthday is tomorrow, in fact) and in my book he's much more an X'er than a boomer. My older brother, on the other hand, like you was born in 1964, and while I'd put his mentality more in the boomer column than in the X'er column, I don't really see him, taken as a whole, as a boomer.
In fact, they call you guys "Generation Jones," born between 1958 and 1964, if memory serves. That includes our own President Barack Obama. You guys are on the cusp, not really belonging entirely to the boomers or to the X'ers, it is said...
And all that time, we paid and paid and paid into social security.
So WTF? Asswipes don't want to pay up? Well too bad. We'll have no trouble becoming the biggest collection agency in history.
You know, they enslaved many of us (in the US) who came at the latter end of your bb birthdates criteria. With wonderfully heartless methodologies like criminalizing fatherhood (jailing!) through impossible to meet child support payments by blue collar wage workers; buying up all the housing property with, attainable only for them, bank loans (read with workers savings), for the purpose of (now we know false ) real estate speculations, while at the same time charging exorbitant rents; chipping away at any form of health or unemployment (ha! read underemployment there, as most 'working class' people needed to burn the day end to end to meet the bills) ***insurance*** etc.etc. etc.
I saw the beginning of this, down on my hands and knees, 70 hours a week, installing italian marble in three million dollar "speculation" homes in the middle of what once were beautiful unspoilt Pennsylvania farmlands... watching the breath fly out of my mouth in the dead of winter. I arriving at dawn, leaving at dusk. Hard labor often 7 days a week. The trust fund babies from the "Mainline" arriving briefly in their Beamers on the weekend, the plush seats still wrapped in plastic. THAT WAS THIRTY YEARS AGO. It has taken three decades of that crap, the wage/debt enslavement, military conscription and or imprisonment of a generation by their peers, the physical ecological trashing of a major part of the "rest" of the world, not to mention the wanton and deliberate assassinations, deprivations, and ruinations of millions of people not of ***first*** world status for it to come to this... Finally. Your generation has been dumped a truckload of shit, true. Many of us have been fighting our whole lives against this (not the co-opted ones either) and have also been completely unheard... never even merited a catchy name. Just invisible.
Soylent Green is a bit strong, but I absolutely agree, it's way past time for the *** ME *** generation to get the fuck off the stage and quit blocking the light.
Saludos ~
This topic does get people riled up. I've already deleted comments from boomers that are just personal attacks on me rather than anything like thoughtful contributions to the discussion. (I've been toying with the idea of turning off the comments function altogether, as too many fucktards just spray their graffiti on my work. WordPress lets me screen out the graffiti before it ever sees the light of day, but Open Salon, unfortunately, lets any asshole leave anything at any time.)
I am aware that I have generalized (I wouldn't say "OVERgeneralized"), but if I do, well, fuck, the discussion has been in the boomers' favor for several decades now. Because they've been in charge, they've controlled the messages that go out in the corporately owned and controlled mass media, and anti-boomer sentiments aren't allowed.
The boomers can sustain a hit from an obscure blogger, I'm sure, although from their reaction I can tell that I've hit some nerves.
I, too, wish that the boomers would just get off the stage and at least give Gen Y a chance that my generation never got.
(That's yet another reason not to vote for Mitt Romney, by the way -- he'd be our third baby boomer president, after Clinton and Gee Dubya. As I noted, Obama is trapped in "Generation Jones," not fully a boomer but not really an X'er, either.)
So keep your anger. But finesse it better. Narrow your focus and you'll be more effective. Because the new people being elected to power aren't boomers and I haven't seen anything to make me confident in their ability to avoid the corruption and work for you.
That said. I didn't do it. I worked in Washington, D. C. in the early eighties hoping that I could make a difference from within but no. I got my ass kicked and went home. I became a teacher and taught poetry to children. I retired after twenty years without a pension because my Gen X ex-husband refused to work at all. I have paid over 42 years into Social Security and have not collected a cent. I was hoping a new teacher would be hired in my stead but a woman who was retired (and not even a good teacher) and wanted back into the force was hired-- a "double dipper" receiving a pension AND a salary. That is disgusting!
I have apologized publically for the excesses of my generation during the commencement speech I made at the high school where I taught for the Class of 2009. I am so sorry for the boomers' selfishness and for ruining the country--especially for R and D money being spent on exorbitant executive pay. I see my children struggling and am not heartless. We'll start dying soon and the world will be well rid of us.
I agree with Nana and Phyllis that you marginalize the effectiveness of your anger generalizing so broadly and blaming a generation for the ills we face right now and appear to be facing for a long time to come.
My oldest Daughter is DVSM and just starting her practice here and I asked her when she applied why she choose being a Veterinarian over being a Doctor or Nurse and she said to me, "Daddy people pay more money taking care of their pets than themselves and besides it's a cash business and no insurance companies are involved and animals actually appreciate what you do and don't complain."
She is your generation and I'm damn proud of her.
You describe/stereotype Gen Y, not Gen X, fucktard. The things that you claim Gen X is so interested in weren't even fucking around at the height of the Gen X generation (the 1990s). I don't use an XBox or MySpace and don't post any personal things on Facebook (at most, I post politically oriented links maybe twice a week; I'm not big on Facebook). It's YouTube, not "UTube," and I'm not big on YouTube, either.
You don't know me at all, boomer bitch, yet you presume to know my interests and you repeat the tired old meme that this Gen X'er hasn't worked or paid taxes when, in fact, he has worked and paid taxes ever since he was a teenager.
Again, fuck you. I need NO lectures from some bitch like you. You're done commenting on my blog. Any further comments from you will go bye-bye. I can't delete boomer bitches like you from the planet, but I CAN delete your trolling comments.
Joisey Shore: Pretty much ditto for you. You are banned also. You sorely need to get a life.
The "inconsistency" you claim you have found is that I stated that the boomers, like Supreme Court justices, refuse to retire, yet the AP story states that Social Security is running dry in large part because of boomer retirements.
Yet if you actually fucking read and fucking comprehend the AP story, it says that Social Security is to run dry by 2033, which is 21 fucking years from now. Of course by that time most boomers will be FORCED into retirement, being in diapers and being unable to feed themselves.
Obviously I was talking about the boomers who are of retirement age (65 or older) who refuse to step aside NOW and allow our young people to have jobs. And again, obviously between now and 2033, there will be involuntary boomer retirements. Duh.
So, you're a dipshit and your avatar is as revolting as is your personality, and I hate going around and around with losers like you -- it's a colossal waste of time -- which is why you're banned. (Again, I would delete YOU and most of the members of your generation if I could.)
phyllis: The boomers were in firm control in the 1980s. (Yes, Ronald Reagan enabled them, no doubt, but your description of the 1980s as "Hedonism was rampant. Self-gratification was the rule of the day," totally describes the boomers. In the 1980s I was in junior high school, high school and starting college. I certainly wasn't out there partying. [I never was the party type, actually.]) With the abuses on Wall Street that began in the 1980s, the boomers started the economic collapse that we've seen since 2008.
There are very few Gen X politicians. Many if not most of us are too disgusted to go into politics, knowing that we'll only be blamed for being unable to clean up the messes that the boomers have created. (President Obama is feeling this now.)
Chicken: The boomers aren't known for taking responsibility for anything. Blaming our nation's economic problems on the rise of technology and other world changes won't cut it. It's greed, greed, greed that has been this nation's problem, and it's the "me" generation -- all tens of millions of them -- who have brought this nation down. Shit, all that you have to do is look at just ONE baby boomer, George W. Bush, and see the damage that he alone caused the nation, and then reflect upon the fact that more than 75 million baby boomers were born.
We are short on resources now because the boomers have used them all up. It's not like the resources just disappeared on their own, like it was some natural disaster. It was boomer-caused, not some act of God.
Your assertion that the boomers would gladly share with the generations that follow them if there were anything left to share is obviously incorrect. There is nothing to share because of the boomers' historical refusal to share anything. Most of the nation's wealth is concentrated in their grubbies already.
All of that said, (1) I've always been prone to hyperbole, since the mainstream media only present ideas that are acceptable to the powers that be (the boomers), and those who can't handle that shouldn't read me, and (2) the boomers have gotten off so scot-free for so fucking long now that I'm not concerned about stating my opinions about them in strong terms. Anything that I could write about boomers is just a drop in the ocean compared to the silence about them and the great things that are said about them -- since they, due to their numbers and their wealth, largely control the media.
I will respond more fully to your comments later. Right now I have to go to work, so that I can pay my taxes and pay into the Social Security and Medicare that I'll never see while baby-boomer assholes leave comments on my blog lecturing me about working and paying taxes.
Oh, well. I, for one, plan to let them sit in their own shit and drool in the nursing homes that they built for their own filthy profit. I won't lift a finger for them.
My Gen X daughters got lucky, they didn't expect more because we didn't have some illusionary boomer life. We learned long ago many have to work for less so that some can earn more and buy things for less. That hasn't changed, that's how it's always been. I don't know why generations after mine didn't take to the streets and protest until now. My eldest will not get involved, she finally has a good job so she doesn't care what happens to others, that includes not caring what happens to me. Maybe the OWS movement is because those people who had enough now don't have enough. Maybe some care about those who have less or are afraid they will lose what they have. I've been hoping younger people would get fired up. I have no answers except that life has always been very hard for most. A few more got lucky for a few short decades, I even know some women who have been very lucky and had good jobs.
I chose to get married, it was a stupid choice but no one can guarantee the future. Choose the wrong spouse or wrong career and you have to live with your choices. I considered college ten years ago but knew that there was no way to guarantee which skills would remain desirable. I learned decades ago that no one is obligated to take care of anyone else, aside from what laws there are that can be enforced. Laws can change. The only law that protects earnings is minimum wage. Jobs have been shipped away for decades so you just have to take less. I'm sick of all the old dinosaurs in politics but that's just how it's become. For years I've talked to younger women about the failure of 13 states to ratify the ERA and women's rights. They don't care, they are getting waxing, tanning and other things they see on silly commercials. Instead they tell me to color the grey out of my hair. I'm old, I don't care if my hair is grey and I'm not going to waste 8 bucks a month on a box of hair color. As far as talking to men of any age about equal pay for equal work, they had no interest because they weren't affected yet. I have no idea what it will take to motivate people again, I assume mass suffering will do it.
I have a lovely home, worked years of 60 hour weeks, missed a lot of meals, wore used clothes and skipped what I consider luxuries to have it. My kids are long grown so I don't have to work as hard to survive. I'm 55 and worn out. Started working full time at 16 and even if I pay in for 50 years or more, I never expected to get a dime out of Social Security, nor do I expect Medicare. I assume I'll get ill and I'll live with it or die fairly young, that's what being a boomer has taught me about life in the US. I remember a bumper sticker I don't see anymore but it still applies; "Life's a bitch, then you die."
I have a granddaughter now and when I look at her I don't worry about the debt, let the rich worry about it, they're the ones with the money. Some idiot is always telling me how many hundreds of thousands I owe. As if that's my tax burden, fuck what the rich owe. I worry about the polar ice caps and wonder what trash pile we're all leaving her. That tiny little girl might have a life like mine or my daughter's lives, or worse. And it breaks my heart.
I'm tired of being separated into groups where it's one group against another. I wish we had an ageless movement.
Just Thinking: Solutions? Soylent Green wasn't a great solution? But seriously, we're all responsible for solutions. Not just me. Not just Barack Obama. (And trust me, you DON'T want MY solutions...) Anyway, the first step is describing and defining the problem -- part of which is that we expect only a tiny few of us to come up with all of the solutions, when it's the responsiblity of all of us. Solutions come after the problem has been identified, but when the masses refuse even to acknowledge the problem, solving it is an uphill battle.
l'Heure Bleue, to clarify, in my estimation the worst of the boomers are in their 60s. You are a "tweener." Hee hee.
Anyway, you wrote, "I'm tired of being separated into groups where it's one group against another. I wish we had an ageless movement."
Well, just as the plutocratic right wing talks about the "class war" that the left supposedly started, when in actuality it's the plutocrats who declared war upon the rest of us long ago, funneling all of our wealth to themselves, the fact of the matter is that the boomers effectively declared war upon Gen X and Gen Y long, long ago. The boomers have a monopoly on the good jobs and are poised to wipe out Medicare and Social Security. But when we younger Americans fight back, WE are then accused of waging a generational war. That's unfair, hypocritical bullshit on the boomers' part.
Can't we all just get along? No, very apparently not. But that's not the fault of Gen X or Gen Y. We know fully well that we're being screwed.
Life has been an unqualified lark for me. And I did have sufficient prescience to foresee the upshot of that, the generational war that is coming. Which is the primary reason that I left and am now holed up deep in Mexico. I wanted to be out of the way when it erupted. You'll have to find me in order to Soylent Green me.
As far as Social Security and Medicare are concerned, I think it the main reason it will be overwhelmed is the sheer numbers of boomers. They didn't call it the "baby boom" for nothing - it was a huge spike in the birthrate.
At any rate, I'm kind of glad I don't have any children at this point, as I don't think things will be getting much better.
Meanwhile, we need feasible solutions.
I like to think that way, anyway.
I'm working on them...as long as I don't look at everything at once. I might not get up in the morning if I did.
Anyone else?
Is it too late?
I don't actually advocate cannibalism, or even the genocide of the boomers, as much as that would help the nation. However, those of us of the younger generations are going to have to make it clear to the boomers that they may not continue to suck up our limited resources, that their party is OVER.
That said, if and when all hell breaks out in the U.S., the have-nots will go after the haves, and the haves tend to be older people, since the boomers and those older than they have the lion's share of the nation's wealth.
So I don't know so much that it will be generational welfare as it will be "class welfare" -- war between the haves (in their gated communities, with their rent-a-cops) and the rest of us.
Jeanette: My boyfriend, whose birthday is today, just turned 50, and he's like you -- not really a boomer or an X'er, but somewhere in between.
I think the most planet-friendly thing that one could do is not to have any children. What better way to reduce one's carbon footprint than to NOT create the pitter-patter of little carbon-footprint-making feet?
Speaking of which, Just Thinking, lots of viable, progressive solutions to our nation's and our planet's problems have been put out there. It's that the corporately hypnotized masses shoot them down. Here's just one idea: Our tax dollars pay for those men and women who wish to become sterilized.
Think of the billions and billions of tax dollars we'd save on having fewer human beings to have to take care of, and how much more attention we could give those children who are born responsibly. Think of the lowered carbon emissions and the overall benefit of the species (quality of life issues, avoiding extinction, etc.) and the planet (global warming, vanishing species, etc.) by controlling our population growth.
But controlling population growth responsibly and wisely is abhorrent to most Americans, who are brainwashed by the "Christo"fascist cults that preach "be fruitful and multiply." The "right" to overpopulate the nation and the planet is considered one of our most fundamental "rights."
But -- tackle just that one problem, and so many other problems would improve or even resolve over time.
But -- again, there is quite a lot of resistance to obvious solutions, such as drastically reducing our use of fossil fuels and being proactive where overpopulation is concerned.
This resistance to viable solutions probably is so difficult to overcome that the older folks are going to have to kick off before we seriously can implement most of these solutions, frankly. Look at how slowly racism and white supremacism has been dying, and at how slowly homophobia has been dying. A lot of stupid old people have to die for things to get better.
Now then, Robert, have you not gotten the word that even the use of the phrase "class warfare" is a no-no?
I joined so I could rate and respond to "F**cked the Screwed Generation," which appeared up front in Big Salon. Go for it because we're coming down the demographic dump tube and we're going to plop right in your laps. Boomer are no different than any other group, got your progressives, your conservatives and your just plain ignorant, self indulgent pigs as well.
Hang in there and remember, "Don't trust anyone over thirty!"
I think we should take back the term "class warfare" -- which I define as the class warfare that the rich declared upon the rest of us long, long ago.
kenneth: I don't need a ridiculously big house, season tickets or a hot tub, but please, please, please let me keep my porn! A man has to have SOMETHING to hold onto! (Seriously, though: I like my porn!)
jmac: You wrote, "Boomer are no different than any other group, got your progressives, your conservatives and your just plain ignorant, self indulgent pigs as well."
I disagree. Boomers incessantly were told by their parents how great they were, and this went to their heads. Therefore, the likes of your Gee Dubyas of the world have wildly exaggerated positive self-esteem, way overvalue their talents, abilities and their worth.
We Gen X'ers, by contrast, were ignored by our parents (most of them boomers). (One of fellow Gen-X'er Ted Rall's first books was "Revenge of the Latch-Key Kids," a reference to the fact that for the most part many of us raised ourselves, were on our own.)
So no, people aren't just people. The generation that they are born into shapes them greatly.
Sure, there are assbite Gen X'ers whose assholery harms many others, such as Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker and the late Andrew Breitbart. But they are the exception, not the rule. Most of those doing harm to the nation are baby boomers.
Also, not only are most (but not all, of course) boomers self-absorbed assholes who take far more than they give back, but there are more than 75 million of them, making them the nation's largest generation still living. The nation can absorb a certain amount of assholery, but not that much. That's why the empire is crumbling before our very eyes.
So to say that the boomers are no different than the members of any other generation -- yeah, that's just not correct. They are much more toxic and much more numerous than the assholes of the other generations.
Don't take this personally but you should try reading some posts by the folk who lived through it, then think about it for a day or two before you climb back up on your soap box... you're shooting from the hip about stuff that you don't know and that makes you sound like a fool or worse an ignorant idiot not dissimilar from the rhetorical noises that com from the likes of Rush and Fox News.
jmac: I realize that every individual's experience is unique and to say that every single baby boomer has had it easy -- and that every single Gen X'er or Gen Y'er has had it hard -- is, of course, inaccurate.
However, I do believe that we can make fair and accurate generational generalizations that, while not true for every individual within the group, are true as an average for the group as a whole. In fact, statisticians do that kind of thing all the time! (And no one calls them "sophomoric" for it, either...)
I'm 57. With each decade, my perspective shifted as awareness accumulated. When I was young, I was pissed off and determined to evoke change, same as you. By age forty, I was disillusioned and disappointed at having to set aside many of my dreams, same as you. By fifty, I understood that the world is unfair, there are injustices galore, and anger can become like a sharp arrow you stab yourself with over and over. Suffering is the human condition. So you take your place in the long line that stretches back to whenever in some caves and recognize that now is your time to be forty, while now is my time to be fifty, and my dad's time to be eighty. Each age deals with their own measure of shit and grace, and our collective experience as well. At this very moment, we're all taking a breath, and when you peel away the rest, ain't that truly sweet?
So's mine of course- we're much worse off, being Gen Y- but somehow we seem to be dealing with it slightly better, in no small part due to the parallel economy that is the internet, and a rampant entrepreneurial spirit that appears to have come out of nowhere. I can't say the same for you guys, but we lucked out in that the world really is a much smaller place now if we want it to be, meaning of course more opportunities and less emphasis on permanence- buying a house, car etc.
With the Y'ers, the boomers, perhaps realizing that they'd need someone to help them with their incontinence once day, but had burned their bridges with us X'ers, started to treat the Y'ers a lot better than they'd ever treated us X'ers.
That's not whining. That's just historical fact...
Still, though, as you state, both of our generations are screwed, blued and tattooed.
(On that note, no, no mid-life crisis for me. No interest in sportscars, gold chains, tattoos, plastic surgery or the like. I shun even Grecian Formula for Men. And that's not out of a lack of funds, but out of my plan/hope to age non-pathetically...)
So you've outlined the problem. What's your solution besides mass genocide? Boomers aren't going anywhere. You can continue the "woe is me" or you can move forward. Which is it?
Again: First, an awareness of the problem must come about in a critical mass of individuals. This can take a long time. Then, slowly, over time, solutions follow. Again: it's the responsiblity of many, many individuals, not just this one blogger or just one elected official, to find solutions. That's another American trait: always thinking that someone else is going to take care of everything. But when everyone is thinking that someone else is taking care of it, that means that NO ONE is taking care of it. The only way to save the empire is for everyone to participate in finding the solutions to its problems.
And again: Since boomers have BEEN the problem, I don't count them as being part of the solution. And, let's face it, given their age, and how long it most likely will take to solve the problems that they have created, it's not like they'll be around long enough to help clean up their own colossal mess anyway.
Which is why I look to my own generation and to those generation that follow mine. We have no wise elders here in the U.S. We have the baby boomers.
Yes, Boomers deserve their share of blame for the way the world is. Problem is, most of their younger critics want only to give blame and no credit. Boomers had a large role in forcing America to live up to it's promise of equality, both for women and minorities. They also helped end the Vietnam War, tho in all honesty their motives were not always the purest, and their methods were not always the most admirable.
That said, it was the so-called Greatest Generation that supported that stupid war almost to the bitter end. They also supported Richard "I'm not a crook, but I'm resigning anyway" Nixon till the bitter and ignominious end. They also gave us stifling conformity and the louts on Madison Avenue, who are as responsible as the banksters for the mess we're in today. That generation paved the way for corporatism far more than did Boomers.
Indeed, Boomers were also on their way to doing something about economic inequality till they got sidetracked by too much sex, drugs and rock'n'roll. But to be blunt, I don't think your generation has much room to talk about the distraction of sex and drugs, and no doubt, your music mostly sucks. Too bad for you.
But go ahead, blame everybody who came before you -- like that will do you any good. If you really want change, get out from behind your computer and take it to the streets and make it happen. That's what we did -- for better or worse.
Tom, every senior citizen thinks that the music of his or her own generation was the best music that ever was produced in the history of the planet, and for the "taking it to the streets" that you recommend, and for your bragging about how your generation did that (actually, your generation partied a lot more than it ever effectively protested), and for your bragging about how your generation ended the Vietnam War, members of your generation then went on to perpetrate the Vietraq War. The members of your generation became the evil they claimed they despised and were going to overthrow. Agreed, the members of the "greatest generation" started the corporatism and the militarism -- and the fascistic fusion of the two in the military-industrial complex -- which threaten to bring down the American empire today, but the boomers only went on to magnify that evil because they gained personally from doing so.
And why do you presume that blogging is all that I do? There are many ways to be a part of the solution. Blogging is only one of them.
But no, I'm not itching to go out and get pepper-sprayed and arrested for your entertainment.
All that we Gen X'ers and Y'ers can do, really, is wait for the boomers to keel off -- and do what we can to prevent them (you...) from taking the rest of us with you as you continue to deplete our resources.
The blame that I cast is wholly appropriately placed.
Besides Soylent Green, I'm pretty big on the concept of Carousel from "Logan's Run"... (I'll be generous, though, and up the age for "renewal" from 35 to 65, especially as I'm 44...)
So old people, do us a favor, and kill ya self!! ~:D
As the responses to this refreshing post demonstrate, Boomers will resort to mainly two forms of condescension: psychoanalysis and grandstanding.
Boomers will boast that they stood and fought the injustices of the Veitnam war by protesting, spitting on vets, burning flags, smoking dope, tripping out on protest songs, and other highly symbolic, questionable means, until one day they snapped out of it and voted for Reagan twice, then Bush, then Bush's son twice. They woke up and showed the world they could be even more ruthless, exploitative, greedy, and immoral than those generations that came before them. They showed us they were never truly taken in by their own youthful parade of idealism. In fact, Boomers ended up making Nixon look like a saint.
But when anybody shows any form of rage and protest from our generation, they all get a little sensitive. Very sensitive. How dare we Xers complain, living in our crowded apartments in crowded cities, working our crap jobs to pay off our exorbitant college debts off, while, THEY, the Darlings of the 60's, stretch out in their nice homes in the suburbs reading books about health and new age, reminiscing about their heroic history and spending their childrens' inheritance on looking young, on pumping their cars with gas, and on entertainment. They see our rage as inconvenient, irritating, or worse, potentially dangerous.
Most Boomers will never know what it is to rent their entire lives, to be at the mercy of (Boomer) landlords, to live from pay check to pay check with no hope of savings or retirement, to rely on public transportation because gas is too expensive, to pay off a 75,000 dollar college debt for a Master's degree that employers don't even recognize. My own parents can't understand why I'm so "angry," and that I should seek help for my "depression," which, by the way, is the word generally used to describe the collective, economic situation our generation is mired in at the present time. The fact is, I would be dead if I was 'depressed,' and that it takes all my optimism simply to survive.
I applaud this post. I say anger IS productive. It sparks debate. It gets people off facebook. It makes the apathetic re-examine their boredom, their stupefication in the face of economic rape and environmental catastrophe. At the risk of making people uncomfortable, it catalyzes zombies into action.
I'll finish by saying it is a shame not to see more Xers responding to this post. We, too, are to blame for our lack of outrage. Most of us aren't even awake to how thoroughly and thoughtlessly we are being screwed. We should be asking more for ourselves.
Thanks Robert for your refusal to back down from the usual barrage of boomers' defense mechanisms. Stay angry, and keep blogging.
Sure, things aren't as easy - for example, I knew my Bachelor of Science degree wouldn't amount to much (although my dad's univ. degree ensured a good job - but why resent him for that?) - so I got a Master's (while working) then got a scholarship for a PhD program.
Does it suck that you have to have at least a Master's degree to get a (no guarantee) decent job? Hell, yes! Does it suck that many in my generation can't buy homes even with great jobs, whereas the previous generations who bought into the market way back have homes that have appreciated exponentially in value? Hell, yes!
Do I resent the boomers for this? Nope.
It seems absurd to me to blame all the woes on the boomers - and trying to compare our circumstances with those of the boomers is like doing an experiment that ignores countless confounding factors.
I suppose I just don't find it productive to make arguments about who should be to blame for the fact that things aren't all that easy, there is very little security, life is hard work & even if you do all the "right" things, sometimes things just don't turn out well. However, I do believe in personal agency and doing what I *can* for my community and me. That's all I can do, and harbouring resentments toward the generation before me and expecting some sort of boomer mass exodus is ridiculous, and I would rather direct my mental energy toward something infinitely more useful.
"I suppose I just don't find it productive to make arguments about *which generation* should be to blame...."
I'm one of the "older folks[*] who "are going to have to kick off before [who?] can implement ... solution".
So it's hard for me to know what or whether to contribute here (and if my paragraphing makes problems, mes apologies!).
What bugs me, personally, is the "we/them" language you use, assigning it to quikspik sociological age group generalisations. These Horrible Baby Boomers you're taking to task are the age of my kids my nieces and nephews. "If you knew 'em, you'd love 'em". [I hope, any way?]
A lot more I'd like to say &/or ask you but already I'm concerned about my way of paragraphing ... that I'm taking up too much space on your blog.
You write: "However, I do believe in personal agency and doing what I *can* for my community and me. That's all I can do, and harbouring resentments toward the generation before me and expecting some sort of boomer mass exodus is ridiculous, and I would rather direct my mental energy toward something infinitely more useful."
I agree with you. I don't expect "some sort of boomer mass exodus." They will die off over time, but no, I don't expect them to just go away. They have demonstrated that they believe that they are immortal and will be here forever.
"Personal agency" only gets us so far. Again, we are social creatures who are part of a vast social network. We love to think that we can go it alone, that our failure or success is dependent only upon ourselves, but the fact of the matter is that that is motivational-speaking/positive-thinking bullshit. Our success or failure to a very large degree is based upon what others have and have not done and what they are and are not doing. And when the generation is as large as is the boomer generation, if they have committed dereliction of duty -- and they have -- then the entire nation suffers. That we are so interconnected is so fucking obvious but is missed or ignored or denied by so many millions of Americans.
As far as "harbouring resentments" goes, from this blog post one would think that I spend all of time time stewing about the baby boomers. Actually, I know this will sound incredible, but I don't. In my work and in my personal life I am able to avoid boomers to a great degree. (And if I can avoid them, I do.) In my current job there are fewer boomers than in any other job I've had before, I do believe. I really lucked out. I don't have a single baby boomer in at least the first three layers of supervision over my job position. This probably is the first time in my life that I have had that.
I agree with you that while we can identify the givers and the takers, who has contributed problems and who has contributed solutions, in the end, we can only do the best that we can within our own sphere of influence. (And the major problem, the reason that the American empire is on the brink of collapse, is that a critical mass of Americans are NOT doing the best that they can within their own spheres of influence.)
However, I think that it's critically important to keep in mind who created this big fucking stinking mess that we are in right now, because over the coming two decades or so, as the editorial cartoon that I used with this piece illustrates, the baby boomers are going to be incredibly demanding of our resources -- as though they (as a group) had ever given society anything instead of having been so fucking selfish their entire lives. I, for one, won't forget.
Seer: I don't know of any revolution or any other significant social change that didn't first begin with debate. A lot of debate. Get a grip and get your head out of the male/doer mindset. Debating isn't doing nothing. Debating is setting the groundwork for creating something better.
Carlo: Ditto, ditto, ditto, dude!
It's funny to read so many people assert that the generation in which you are born doesn't matter, when the fact of the matter is that those born in affluence (the boomers), as you indicate, are so stuck in their materialism and in their socioeconomic advantage that they refuse to acknowledge that other generations could have had a different experience than they. (And I remember my grandmother, a member of the "greatest generation," who, because she grew up during the Great Depression, had a mentality of poverty her entire life. Even though she had wealth of at least $200,000, in her mind she was so poor that she was on the verge of having to eat cat food. So yes, the socioeconomic conditions that one experiences in the first several decades of his or her life do indeed tend to shape him or her for his or her entire lifetime. Duh.)
I agree with you wholeheartedly that the boomers "see our rage as inconvenient, irritating, or worse, potentially dangerous." As much as they tell us that we are just slaggards, they know that their excess has come at OUR expense. (And if we truly were slaggards, it wouldn't be possible for them to exploit us like they do.) They know that they are parasites and they know that we know it.
Every exploiter, every have, knows that the exploited, the have-nots, might one day rise up and revolt. Many if not most of the boomers must be terrified that one day their karma might get them while they're still alive. Perhaps they especially are afraid that when they are elderly and more vulnerable and more defenseless, they might get their karmic due. Perhaps that's why so many of them pathetically pretend to still be teenagers.
Anyway, Carlo, I've been blogging since 2002. In the past decade of blogging I've received incalculable flak from wingnuts and boomers and other assorted evil individuals. Far from making me stop blogging, these attacks have been fuel for me to keep going. I know that I wouldn't be as attacked as I am if I were just plain wrong. If I were just plain wrong, I would be ignored.
podunkmarte: Yes, you took up way too much space on my blog. However, Open Salon's comments function is lacking, so it's not entirely your fault. I usually delete such clutter, but since you're not making a personal attack, and since you're a newbie, I'm letting your comment stand.
Anyway, getting a lot of responses on a piece is a double-edged sword anyway. You attract venomous fucktards as well as intelligent people (the former of whom believe that they are much, much more clever than they ever will be, and that it's illegal for you to delete their graffiti even though it's your own fucking blog), and it can be difficult for just one blogger to keep up with a lot of others who are leaving comments. Many have left thoughtful comments here that I haven't had the time to respond to, and I did compose a response to several comments that got lost in cyberspace, and I didn't have time to write it out all over again.
It's an imperfect process. But I always appreciate thoughtful feedback, which is rarer than it should be.
P.P.S. Before some fucktard leaves a comment, NO, I am not comparing myself to Jesus. Or even to Patrick Henry. I would find a comparison to someone like Ralph Nader or even to Glenn Greenwald to be complimentary, though...
First and foremost if you are in a position of power (even if it is social, ie not a manager ect...) within your organization/group, work slowly to discredit the Boomers. This takes some time, patience and dedication. The payout has returned good dividends. They have created these monstrous bureaucratic systems within these institutions. Learn them and use them to remove the Boomer problem one at a time. I have removed Boomer bosses, three of them in the last five years, using this method. I simply made sure their performance numbers were always below standard without jeopardizing my job position or integrity. Fudging the numbers here, delaying a project there, without my name on the document in question does the trick. I have a strong personality and the younger employees trust me. So it was easy to manipulate or win them to my side which easily made the Boomer bosses performance numbers exponentially worse. We finally have a 42 year old Gen-Xer running our department and the atmosphere has never been better. The Boomer employees are much easier to discredit than the management types. You just set them up to fail and make sure every single one of their failures is documented in the appropriate institutional forms. I have personally removed several Boomer employees in this manner.
Some may say this is a dirty underhanded tactic and I will agree with them. I will also say that generation Boomer has created me and this is exactly what you will get. I have absolutely no problem getting rid of a Boomer in our department, who has children in college and a mortgage, to simply keep the generational ratio below 1:1; Boomer:other.
Now imagine if there were several thousand or tens of thousands of Gen-Xers/Yers using these tactics throughout every institution in the good ole USA? The Boomer problem would be fixed fast, with little to no political/bureaucratic wrangling and the genocide option could be left off the table.
My favorite quote comes from Tom Brokaw's book on the boomers: "They were last seen in their VW bus with the "Make Love, Not War" bumper sticker heading out of town and weren't seen or heard from since."
It's your generation who suffered the most from their mistakes, and hopefully learned the lesson not to emulate those who never grew up.


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You Made It Weird #45: Shelby Fero
By Katie Levine on May 2, 2012
Holy cow. Pete knew Shelby Fero was a Twitter monster, but it turns out she's a hilarious and thoughtful delight. A DELIGHT! How she's this legit delightful and EIGHTEEN we'll never know. Not to be ageist. Lots of cool people are young. But she's like OLD cool. You'll see. Lots of "when I was your age" and other weirdness for you to enjoy. Please do so now, weirdos!
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Oh man, I love @shelbyfero! I can't wait till she's super famous and I can say, "I remember when she was just a lil ol' twitter juggernaut." Okay, I probably won't ever say that, but she is super cool and I am a fan.
Word! The world is at this girl's feet, man. My wife and I were both saying we can't wait to see her on SnL!
I'd like to attend Shelby's hypothetical outdoor party, because she is a delight! I hope you have her back again soon.
I can't wait to buy a t-shirt to show off my weird boobs!!!! LMAO
The fake video games might be the funniest thing ever.
Jesus christ what an adorable talent. The only thing keeping my seething jealousy and envy in check right now is a LOT of alcohol. a LOT.
Yeah. I've got one of those kinds of crushes on Fero that sort of makes you angry at the world. You know those, right?
Just me? I'll see myself out, then.
"I understand you did better on the SATs than me… do you take those? What are the kids into?" And I lost it. This was a great episode- can't wait to listen to the next Shelby filled episode.
What a sweetie. And I mean that in the least condescending way possible. The gal is a genuine talent.
Downloading it now. Sounds like a good one!
This sounds so great and love the how the conversation flowed!
I'm moving to Shelby-ville!
Pete finally challenged someone a little bit on their religious beliefs! Oh, and what a surprise, it's because she said she was an atheist.
They didn't really talk about it, I wouldn't say he challenged her. The only thing I can remember that he said to her as a "challenge" is: doesn't her belief in aliens also suggest there is a god? To me it doesn't any more than humans' existence.
Let's say her belief is that there are so many planets out there that some of them are also bound to have life, what is the relationship? There are so many planets out there that if you search enough one of them is bound to have god on it? (or Mitt Romney after he dies). j/k and no offense meant to Mormons.
I know this is not how Pete means it. He means if you believe the universe is so immense and so wondrous don't you think that requires a god. It's really the same question (and assumption) without aliens. The world, humans, animals are so amazing don't you think it requires a god? Well who knows.
If believing there most likely is no god is fundamentalist, then believing that a wondrous universe could not exist without a god (or conscious being creator) is just as fundamentalist because you also cannot know this to be the case. It could have happened in ways you can't imagine or conceive of but where there wasn't a conscious creator.
Atheists are accused (wrongly in my opinion) of saying, "there couldn't be a being more advanced than us or that we can't understand."
I would counter accuse believers of saying, "a universe could not exist in a way that we cannot conceive of or through means we can't understand" (i.e. without a conscious creator).
I feel guilty that the main thing I took from this lovely episode was what a complete, eff-ing assclown I was at her age.
He didn't present a particularly strong or offensive challenge; my point was just that he has literally never challenged anyone else at all. It's another data point to establish a trend.
haaa, i think aliens and all that could totally exist in a godless world, i didn't mean to imply that you can't believe in aliens and not believe in god. in fact, i've always admired the atheist appreciation of the wonder of the universe in ITSELF and the lack of need to tack anything to a deity. but you guys know me, i kind of love everything.
thank you weirdos!
If only I were this together at her age…
Another great episode
Nick Kroll had the b@lls to say something about the laugh but what about the "Delight" references. I was just thinking about how often you drop the word "delight" into an interview only to see it used 3 times in the description. What's next Rachel Ray? "Yummo"?
I can't even listen to this now.
Pass.Unless your
I just figured out why @Jim listens to YMIW. He's a masochist, and "keep it crispy" is his safe word. "Word?" you ask? Isn't "keep it crispy" three words? Yep… But, you know, sometimes two words aren't even enough…
Me? I find YMIW a delight. An American treasure. Totally "yummo". But hey, that's just me. I'm one of those weirdos who like being entertained by entertainment.
"i kind of love everything"
I love Pete Holmes (as a fan of his, hopefully not in a creepy way haha)
I understand if it irked you or if you simply noticed it, but to me it mostly sounded like he was quickly trying to skip the topic (maybe he feels she's too young to go "on the record").She was great on the episode though btw!
Pete, don't you think the person that tweeted "that joke won't fly" was making a flightless bird joke. (No it wasn't me.)
Shelby really should be on a TV show about not liking college rather than in college not liking college. Why would she take a class from someone with fewer followers than her; what could they possibly have to teach her? They should have her playing Laura Prepon's smart ass niece on that Chelsea show, they need a Seinfeld, a decisively smart character to reflect upon the idiocy of the others. Otherwise there's just mayhem without focus or commentary. She'd anchor the shit out of that show. Make it happen Pete!
Been following @shelbyfero for over a year now and I simply adore her. There is nothing this girl cant do. The best of Tweeter.
What a fucking delightful episode!
She makes me laugh and that is an amazing gift to be able to make laughter happen.
I always come into the 'unknowns' with zero expectations and am 9/10 times blown away by these people. Definitely following her now on Twitter, and anytime I hear anyone say that women aren't funny, I'll just show them her account.


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Another seafood main course, the cartoccio, proved not only the kitchen's superiority but also the waitstaff's. This dish comprised seafood -- scallops, squid, and mussels -- sauteed with tomatoes, garlic, and olive oil. The mixture was then sealed in parchment paper over linguine and baked "in its own juices." Upon serving the entree, the waiter slit open the paper to allow the steam to escape, then extracted and shelled the langostino that rested atop the pile, whisking away the shell as he withdrew.
Despite all the richness, desserts are a must, whether you prefer an elegant tiramisu or a homier apple tart. Indulgence is what eating out is all about.
Victor's Cafe
2340 SW 32nd Ave., Miami; 445-1313. Open noon to midnight daily.
Good Cuban food abounds in this city, with bodegas and cafeterias dishing up homestyle fare on practically every corner. Believe me, I appreciate that. But when one has a hankering for the same ingredients prepared with a bit more innovation -- gourmet Cuban, in other words -- there are really only a couple of choices. Victor's Cafe is dependable not only for the elan of its menu but also for its breezy setting and brisk, efficient service.
3101 Ponce de Leon Blvd.
Coral Gables, FL 33134
Category: Restaurant > Steakhouse
Region: Coral Gables/South Miami
This fall Victor's celebrates its sixth anniversary, and after dining in the two-story restaurant, surrounded by greenery and falling water, I can easily see why it retains its reputation. I couldn't keep my hands off the appetizers we ordered -- unless it was to pick up my mojito. Tostones rellenos were four little fried plantain baskets, each filled with fricasseed shrimp. The shrimp, set in a puddle of savory sauce, were so fresh and meaty they rivaled the bananas for substance. We also delighted in a pair of pollitos mandraques. These "fingers" of minced, moist chicken encased in a crusty, quick-fried shell were similar to croquetas, and absolutely terrific (but no mas, alas; this fowl was recently removed from the menu).
In a rare move, I systematically consumed a side dish before I even tried my entree. Tamal en cazuela -- cornmeal cooked in a cast-iron (or these days, aluminum) pot -- was fantastic, the creamy Cuban-style polenta veritably addictive. The asopao de camarones, a Puerto Rican-inspired dish I ordered as an alternative to paella, wasn't too shabby either. A savory tomato broth contained six fabulously fresh jumbo shrimp, pitted Manzanilla olives, fresh green peas, and slices of pimiento. White rice settled near the bottom, a rich find once the broth was depleted a little bit.
Buttered rice and aromatic black beans, whole and perfectly cooked, accompanied a main course of vaca frita con mojo. This pounded, shredded steak, cut into bite-size sections, was crisp on the outside, tender in the middle. A tangy marinade of lime juice and garlic zinged on the white onions that covered it, rendering them almost pickled. Gourmet Cuban, yes. Small portions, no.
Last year Victor's added a cabaret stage to showcase Latin entertainment; this year it ran a Cuban sushi-and-jazz night. The only laurels that rest here are the bay leaves that adorn the black beans.


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Eugene Joseph "Gene" Karlin, 80, Hays, died Wednesday, July 16, 2014, at Hays Medical Center.
He was born March 1, 1934, in Catharine to Frank A. and Elizabeth (Schueler) Karlin.
He married Thelma Rose Dreher on April 7, 1956, in Schoenchen. She preceded him in death Nov. 2, 2010. He had a lifelong career in the oilfield and was co-owner of L-K Wireline & Acid Inc. from 1972 until he retired in 2000. He continued to work independently in the oilfield until his death. He was a U.S. Army National Guard veteran from 1953 to 1959.
He was a devoted husband, father of six children, 18 grandchildren, and six great-grandchildren. He was a member of Immaculate Heart of Mary Catholic Church.
Survivors include a granddaughter, Erika Scoby and husband, Luke, Hays; grandson, Matthew Karlin and wife, Rebecca, Great Bend; son, Brian Karlin and wife, Gale, Hays, and their children, Trent, Amanda, Dalton, and Paige; son, Tom Karlin and wife, Robyn, Atlanta, and their children, Derek, Gabe, Jon, and Kaleigh; daughter, Kathy Boggs and husband, Steve, Shoenchen, and their children, Sara Branham and husband, Carlos, Houston and Lacy, Hays, daughter, Carol Fieler and husband, Keith, Schoenchen, and their children, Jade and Justin Herl, Victoria, Chelsea and fiancé, Trent Mauler, Great Bend, and Heidi, Hays, daughter, Brenda Thomas and husband Brett, Houston, and their children, Zach, Haley, and McKenzie; six great-grandchildren, Addison Karlin, Alyson Herl, Graycee Herl, Kyndall Branham, Layla Scoby, and Brady Karlin; and two sisters, Agnes Sanders, Great Bend and Betty Burchfield, Lewisville, Texas.
He was preceded in death by a son, Alan Karlin; his parents; seven brothers, Martin, Eldon, Joseph, Robert, Francis, George and Ervin Karlin; and a sister, Bertilla Wilson.
Services will be at 10 a.m. Saturday at Immaculate Heart of Mary Catholic Church, Hays; burial in St. Joseph Cemetery.
Visitation will be from 5 to 8 p.m. Friday and from 9 to 9:45 a.m. Saturday, both at Hays Memorial Chapel Funeral Home, 1906 Pine.
A vigil will be at 6:30 p.m. Friday at the funeral home.
Memorials are suggested to the Immaculate Heart of Mary Catholic Church or Thomas More Prep-Marian High School, in care of the funeral home.
Condolences can be sent to the family at www.haysmemorial.com.


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Only a techno-moron would say such a thing: I was appalled by the level of inaccuracy in Tristram Korten's column "Deeply Digitally Divided" (February 5), in which he stated that the e-Equality computer technology center was "the only tech center in town with the resources to dramatically improve computer literacy." That statement is completely false, and many community technology centers in Miami-Dade County can prove it.
I should know. From 2001 to 2003 I served as both an AmeriCorps*VISTA member and activities coordinator at one of Overtown's finest community technology centers, the Mattie Koonce Learning and Technology Center, a Miami tech center where people as young as age three and senior citizens as well have learned to improve their computer literacy skills by attending workshops and classes for adults in Microsoft Office, job-skills training, and more recently, financial literacy classes and after-school and summer programs for youth.
So, yes, Mr. Korten, tech centers other than e-Equality do exist and are serving many low-income residents. If you want further proof, please visit the Mattie Koonce Learning and Technology Center at Greater Bethel AME Church, 245 NW Eighth St. or at www.mkcenter.org. The friendly staff will be happy to oblige you in any further information you may need.
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Miami Beach
I Am Who I Am
and Nobody Else
Meaning I am not the funky Miss Betsy: Victor Cruz made a huge error in his "See/Be Seen" calendar blurb about the Dance Esaias dance troupe/Sixth Street Dance Studio ("Miss Shake," February 5). He spoke to me, the artistic director and choreographer/former hip-hop teacher. I am Esaias Johnson. Yet he named Betsy P. Cardwell, the company manager, as a "powerhouse" hip-hop teacher.
Betsy has never taken a dance class in her life. She is a funky girl, but she just doesn't dance.
Esaias Johnson
Miami Shores
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Would Bob Marley pay $28 admission to the Bob Marley Festival? Kris Conesa complained about the ridiculous price of admission ($28) to last weekend's Bob Marley Festival ("Who the Cap Fit," February 5). It's about time. I went to the first festival back in 1994 and went every year after that, not only to support the local charities but also to enjoy the free vibe it used to be. Not only that, but I would never go with less than 30 to 40 heads to make it an all-day event. But something happened two years ago that made me forever change my mind about supporting this so-called festival.
It was another year and time for the Marley Fest. The squad and I had all our blankets, blunts, and dutches ready to roll for another exciting year of the Marley Fest. Although early in the morning it had been raining, we decided we were still going out there to continue our tradition. What could a little rain do to our high spirits?
Although the price was, in my opinion, a little too high for the humble man, we decided to pay it. I mean, this is the Marley Fest. It must be going to a good cause. We arrived and had to take a bus to the location due to the distance from our parking spaces, so we did. We got in and immediately went closest to the stage and set up camp. After a few hours of being rained on, we decided to walk around and look for cover.
Upon leaving our area we noticed that the entire field was completely saturated. Every piece of grass had been upturned and there was nothing around but mud. People were dancing in this disgusting filth. Then I heard Marley's "wife" or " mom" or whoever come out on the stage, and you won't believe what she had the nerve to say. She said: "I know you all are getting rained on while I'm here covered by the roof of the stage, but the spirit of Marley is with us."
That was a bit rude, I thought, seeing as how this was a family event and she was practically laughing at all those folks who paid twenty-plus dollars and were getting rained on. But then she immediately went on to say -- and this is what set it off for me -- she said: "Now go and buy all the Marley merchandise you can get. Buy the Marley shoes, buy the Marley poncho, but whatever you do, buy Marley."
That was it. I saw right through this whole thing. This was no longer the true spirit. It was driven by money. And not only was it money-driven, it was greedy. It showed a total lack of respect for Bob Marley's followers. After that experience I have chosen never to return to the Marley Fest.
I am a true fan of Bob's music, especially many of his early recordings, but I will never buy into anything with his name. I will download his music for free, and I will do so with a clear conscience because, as we all know, Bob is no longer here with us. So he's not the one benefiting from record sales. It's all those greedy snakes.


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Better Breakfasts: 8 Healthiest Breakfast Foods
by Toby Amidor in Healthy Tips, September 15, 2010Mom was right when she said breakfast is the most important meal of the day. But what you choose for breakfast can make or break your day (sorry, bacon didn't make the list). Here are our top 8 foods that help make your morning meal a healthy one.
Nonfat Greek Yogurt
With more hunger-fighting protein than traditional yogurt, it'll keep those mid-morning hunger pangs at bay. Learn to make your own, or try our top Greek yogurt picks.
Start your day off with a warm bowl of oatmeal — choose rolled or steel cut oats.
Skip the sugary packets and add a little sweetness with dried fruit,
applesauce or a touch of honey or brown sugar. Use your slow cooker to make getting a healthy breakfast even simpler.
Toss blueberries, strawberries and raspberries on cold cereal, oatmeal, yogurt, pancakes or French toast. Berries are high in an anti-inflammatory compounds called anthocyanins, which may help reduce heart disease and diabetes, and improve eyesight and short-term memory.
Peanut Butter
Need a quick protein boost in the morning? Spread a tablespoon of the stuff on whole grain bread, add to a smoothie, mix into oatmeal or spread on apple slices. Remember to choose the natural kind to keep sugar under control.
Easy and versatile, eggs contain vitamins A and D and the antioxidant lutein for healthy skin and eyes. Scrambled, soft-boiled, poached or over easy, serve with whole-grain toast for a stay-with-you breakfast.
Sprinkle flaxseeds on yogurt, oatmeal or blend in your morning smoothie or muffin batter. This high-powered seed adds extras omega-3 fat, fiber and protein.
Cottage Cheese
Top low-fat cottage cheese with fresh fruit for an on-the-go breakfast that will leave you satisfied. Packed with 16 grams of hunger-fighting protein and only 1 gram of fat, it'll help get your day started.
Whole-Grain Cereal
A bowl of whole grain cereal and low-fat or skim milk takes only minutes to put together. But watch out for whole grain cereal boobie traps, like high calories and sugar. See which popular brands reigned supreme in our cereal taste test.
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Race day registration will be available 7:30-8:30 a.m. on June 21 at Lake Nokomis Main Beach.
Do something healthy with or in memory of Dad this Father's Day. Chad and Jenni Greenway will host the 6th Annual "Gridiron Gallop" 5K Run/Walk. There will be Viking player and cheerleader appearances with autograph opportunities for registered runners. Funds from this event go towards the Minneapolis Park and Recreation Board (MPRB) youth athletic programming. www.gridirongallop.com
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