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The Self-Editing Myth
Blogger: Wendy Lawton
One of the best writing books of all time is Self-Editing for Fiction Writers by Browne and King. I've devoured that book multiple times. I used to read it, William Zinsser's On Writing Well, and The Elements of Style by Strunk and White every single year. But today I'm going to talk about the fallacy of thinking we can adequately self-edit. Or more precisely that the self-edit is sufficient. Science fiction writer Eric T. Benoit summed it up nicely, "Self editing is the path to the dark side. Self editing leads to self delusion, self delusion leads to missed mistakes, missed mistakes lead to bad reviews. Bad reviews are the tools of the dark side." Yep, the dark side.
There are many things we can adequately do for ourselves. Giving ourselves a good haircut, however, and editing our own books are not among those things. I decided to address this issue when a friend handed me the print-out of a review she read on Amazon. The review addressed the dangers of an unedited book so succinctly, I contacted Amazon and the reviewer, Sondra Kelly-Green, to get permission to quote much of it here. I'm not going to name the book because the author took the comments to heart and reissued an edited version of the book. But here's the review:
I would love to recommend this book. I really would. [Title] made me laugh, and its premise and main character were engaging. BUT. . . as much as I would like to recommend it, I just can't. This book is the victim of the same crime committed by the authors of many (MANY) other self-published books. In the heady rush to press the author neglects to get it to an editor.
There are so many spelling errors in this book it's nearly impossible to follow the plot. Just one example is the word desert. It has one "s" like sand. Dessert on the other hand has two, as in strawberry shortcake. So as a result we're faced with a lot of whipped cream and sponge cake where there should be arid dunes.
This is something that really hits me where my peeves live: Why can't writers admit to themselves that there may be errors editors can catch that they can't? Spell check is not the great license to go forth into print. The all-too-sad bottom line is that if I passed this on to friends it would imply I hadn't caught the widely scattered errors on what would have otherwise been a perfectly delightful work.
So – if you're not driven wild by typos, confused synonyms and operator error in general, you may find this a funny and sweet read. Just don't say I recommended it, okay?
Gulp! I couldn't have said it better.
How would you like to get that kind of a review on your book? And this reviewer was merely talking about copyedits. What about the substantive edit? Our friend Dr. Seuss once wrote, "So the writer who breeds more words than he needs, is making a chore for the reader who reads."
Your turn. Have you noticed more typos and mistakes in books lately? How about doing some future-think with me. If this trend were to continue how do you see it impacting readers and books in general? Do you see a problem like this making readers shy away from self-published books? Do we see this happening in traditionally published books more often than before? What should an author do?
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By Wendy Lawton on May 14, 2013 in Blog, ebooks, Writing Craft | 126 Comments
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I take issue with the idea that authors can't (or worse, shouldn't be expected to) do their own editing. I think it's a myth propagated by editors. I'm a freelance writer and it's my job to ensure that I work efficiently and turn in error-free text on a short turn-around. There's no editor standing between me and my professional clients, so I have to be certain everything I turn in is polished.
If an author wants an editor, there's nothing wrong with that. And I can see the benefit to having someone proofread as insidious little typos sometimes creep up, often during the edits themselves.
But I don't think editors are by any means a necessity, and writers shoot themselves in the foot if they think having an editor absolves them of the responsibility to learn proper spelling and grammar. Words are your tools. Learn to use them properly instead of relying on others to fix your mistakes.
I agree completely. There are many careers involving writing which don't have an editor position: instead, it's part of the expectations of the employee to be able to perform that role for his or her own work.
As a writer, I desperately need an editor! I look forward to it. Right now I'm on my second draft of my book, and I'm catching things like an s missing on a word that should be plural. A period missing here and there. My time frame off in one spot or another. I'm always amazed at how I missed these things. But I know my story too close to catch them. My mind fills in what's missing.
And then there's the blind spots we have as writers–we can see the whole story in our head, but we often don't realize that we're not conveying crucial things on the page. We need people to stop us and say, "Hold on. You lost me here." It's not something we can do ourselves.
And language changes. I have a BA in English. But when I work on a book, my Chicago Manual of Style–hated thing!–is there, because what was wrong ten years ago is perfectly acceptable now.
I think T. L. mistakes copyediting for developmental editing. Regardless, both are needed. (A copyeditor would have pointed out the need for a space between initials, for example.)
Certainly it's the author's responsibility to do as much as he or she can, putting the manuscript through many drafts until it seems perfect. And that's when the editor's work begins.
Any author who's worked with an editor quickly realizes the value of (if NOTHING else) a fresh pair of eyes. But there is so much more to it than that. Publishers hire editors for manuscripts (every single one, no matter how many books that author has published previously), which surely is a commentary on how much value they place on editors in the publishing process.
Wendy, wow, I'm blushing. Thank you for those lovely words…
The day job mandates that I write in AP style, Jamie, wherein there are no spaces between initials. Unless form dictates that I use a different style guide, I stick with AP for personal use as well
While I agree that it is the writer's responsibility to learn to write well and all that that includes, and it is a possibility that an experienced writer may not need an editor, I haven't see the evidence. I live in our state's capital and am constantly appalled at the poor writing in every state document I've seen, from instruction manuals, to reports on endangered species. I see the need for good editing everywhere. I believe it is dangerous indeed to self-publish without the aid of good editing. I've been in the position of the reviewer where dear friends have e-published and I can't whole-heartedly recommend their work because of too many errors. We discussed this once in our writer's group, and it surprised me that several in the group didn't think it mattered to the average reader. They expressed the opinion that writers are harder on other writers than readers are; that readers are not put off by typos and misspelled words as long as the story is well-told. For myself, I say, bring on the editor!
If an editor decided to right a book (not unheard of) wood he or she employ an editor, I wunder?
This one certainly is!
I realize there's been a trend to e-publish and self-publish that scares the pants off us lovers of tradition. But in the end, perhaps it will be to our benefit once that industry reaches its saturation point and makes readers demand the quality they can trust from traditional houses. Yet, I've noticed in the surge to compete, some typos still slip through in the traditional world as well. How disappointing. You get what you pay for. Personally, I'm holding out for the tried and true.
Anne, I love the idea of a saturation point. Hopefully, that will cause readers to demand more quality from books. Hadn't thought about that.
I agree, excellent point about saturation. There's a limit to what people will accept before they turn and demand better for their expenditures. And no, I did NOT use spellcheck or rely on the red line to get that werd rite.
It's a nice thought, but I'm increasingly under the impression that the quality from traditional publishers is slipping. I found 40 errors in the 352 page "Victory of Eagles", published by Harper Voyager – that's around one every nine pages.
A previous book in the series contained the line "and I hope you will permit me to suggest, Wilberforcewritten had". For the life of me, I can't work out how that got past an editor.
It's a real shame, because the stories are great, and they deserve better. The shoddy editing has made me wary of buying any more books in the series
Indeed. It is quite erroneous to claim that, as publishing houses let go of their editors, that there is this stark divide between the quality control of traditionally published books and e-published books.
My too sense, a good editor is worth there wait in gold. Get over you're fear of critique, and except help. More I's on the pages, more reader's for the book. (Couldn't resist.)
Hahaha! I was reading via visual queues but I swear I could hear my brain hit the brakes.
Well played, Kathryn!
Funny, Kathryn!
I due my best.
And not just normal human writers need editors, have any of you read a scientific paper or even an email from a scientist/nerd??
Oh my word, please just play a recording of the Chipmunks singing Andrew Lloyd Webber tunes. That torture is worse than reading a rough draft of a 20 page article that is half Latin (seriously) and the other half is Latin based English with teeth jarringly bad spelling. And maybe there might even be a capital letter in there somewhere.
There is a saint named Caroline at my husband's work whose job is editing science papers. I think she pours Red Bull on her sugary cereal to make it til lunch when she has 4 Cokes and a bowl of raw tobacco leaves with Ranch dressing.
But they adore her and she is excellent at her job. And I was only joking about that many Cokes. She only has 3.-
Jennifer, when my husband was working on his master's degree in computer science, I edited his papers. I thought, "Cool! I get to use my English background." WRONG! Who can understand that stuff? Longest three years of my life. I remember many late nights with my head nodding in front of the computer. But we survived, and now that education pays the bills.
Jennifer, I think you are being way to hard on Caroline. Currently as a technical writer, we all have different talents. I have learned to understand a lot of technical stuff but I also had a lot of time in the industry prior to being a full time tech writer. (Note: My degree is in Communications not engineering or computer science) Prior to being a full time tech writer, writing at times was just part of my job. It was not my job. My years in quality assurance helped a lot. I was asked to be a full time tech writer which is what the job market was looking for at that time.
Wendy, I have written many operating instructions that have actually taught users on how to use computer software without any prior knowledge of that software. In fact at prior job, I had a manager steal me from another department because of what needed to be done for her department after what she saw what I did for my original department.
Writing instructions that actually teach or is able to be understood my many is an art. However, I may be able to write and follow technical instructions but I have a difficult time following a recipe in a cookbook. In fact, I want to pull my hair out.
Wendy, I checked out Marilyn's Web pages and LinkedIn profile. Impressive. Now, when I get a chance, I need to check out her books.
I was terribly impressed with what I could understand of my husband's papers. It proved to me just what you said, that writing on technical subjects is an art. It was just difficult to edit because I didn't understand the material. He says he's not a good writer, but I couldn't have done what he did!
I wasn't being hard on Caroline, I was being hard on the people who send her scientifically accurate papers with the worst grammar and spelling out there. The scientists are very good at their jobs, and Caroline is VERY good at hers. And she makes their work shiny. Shinier.
I'm going to hush up now. -
And Jennifer, that's why I have a job. It is my job to make the engineers shine and it is the engineers job to make the astronuats shine. So it all works out in the end.
Wendy, interesting thoughts. I can definitely see the advantage of having an editor look at a book. One thing I saw that I was not impressed with in a traditionally pubbed book, written by a well-known author, was the name of a town in the state where I live misspelled. Not once, but throughout the book. I believe a town by the same name is also in the author's home state, spelled the way it was in the book.
That little gaffe bothered me because it made me think that someone had truly not done their research. I have seen more errors in traditionally pubbed books over the last few years, as well as in e-pubbed books.
On the flip side, I know many authors and editors do their best to put out quality books. When I'm ready, I want other eyes on my story to ensure I haven't missed any major edits—story wise or grammar, punctuation-wise.
If books continue to be filled with errors, I think people will shy away from books—self- and traditionally pubbed.
It's interesting you mention the proper spelling of locations. I'm from British Columbia. NOT British Colombia. Have I seen this? Yup. Is there such a place? Maybe at a tea room in Bogota.
As a writer (who also works as an editor), I've been blessed with some good editing ("Eek–how did I miss THAT?).
As an editor, I've been frustrated at times with the manuscripts I'm given. Because I write, I KNOW the author could have caught this, tightened that, polished there. I most admire the authors who have learned to edit themselves well.
To err is hunam.
I love my editor. She killed me. Her work resulted in carnage. Corrections hemorrhaged off the page, dripping down the right corner well below the copy line. They were endless, eternal. I even did a blog about the process, called Armageddon, or The Professional Edit: http://bit.ly/13YmPW6. (Pleaes note the website relaunch occurs today, and we're still working on spacing in the blog. This is a sneak peek.)
The professional edit is the second best money I've spent in writing. I can get a lot of the junk out of my work, but I need a word-surgeon to be professional. (And bandages, antibacterial cream, and a lot of good chocolate.)
For me, the professional edit is a necessaity. (I'm too busy working with my own creations to notice if quality is slipping elsewhere.) I am happy to invest in it if it improves my product—and it does immeasurably.
See? Necessity, not necessaity. I really DO need a professional editor! >: l
Ditto to what Norma said. I hired a freelance editor for my first novel, and I cringed in horror when I saw some the typos, timeline problems, and sheer banalities she flagged. When reading my own work, I tend to see what I expect to see, not what's actually there on the page. But how much better to cringe privately with a caring editor than to cringe publicly when a flawed manuscript reaches an editor's desk or–gasp!–the public's eyes. That editor is now on speed-dial for when my next manuscript is finished.
Okay, Wendy, future-think: Do readers even know when what they're reading is self-published versus traditionally published? How many readers look at the spine and say, "Oh yeah. [Name of big publisher] is terrific. I can trust this book to be good." If these errors continue in self-publishing, could it turn readers off of reading all together? I mean, look how easy it is to pick up the remote control and have your choice of over 500 mind-numbing and brain-cell-killing entertainments. Perhaps our real competition is the television set. It would be an interesting study to see how/if reading has declined since the advent of television in the home. I don't really know, and I know our conversation here isn't about television. Okay, stream-of-consciousness done.
I haven't noticed more errors in traditionally published books, and I'm looking forward to that day when I get to work with an editor to make my book better.
As a librarian, I can say it makes very little difference when I'm purchasing books. I don't care who publishes the book, but I do read the reviews….School Library Journal, Horn, Kirkus, even Amazon.
That being said, in my writing experience (just signed first contract for traditional publication), I love to see the red marks. I want to get better.
Congratulations on the contract, Laura!
It's interesting–in these days of computers, when correcting things is easy before printing them off, we do seem to have MORE errors versus the days of the classics. I've seen a couple errors in older books I've read, but then I realized they DID NOT HAVE XEROX MACHINES THEN. So they had to typeset each one, I imagine–yet still, they had fewer errors. There do seem to be more errors today, especially spelling errors. This is where a grammar-nazi crit partner can save you from much heartbreak! Or just become your OWN grammar nazi…I think it can be done.
While there certainly are some problems of quality control regarding e-published books (I like this phrase….it's a good replacement for "self-pubbed"), the movement has certainly come a long ways from where it once was, establishing itself as a legitimate economic and entertainment source.
I think much of your post today, Wendy, projects too much on the outliers of the range of e-published books: it isn't that the books with the terrible pacing, syntax, etc. are representative of the e-book industry, but rather are their own sub-category. Much like one doesn't project the quality of B-movies onto all of cinema, the cheap-and-loose e-books are not representative of the entire e-book industry.
Furthermore, it isn't merely unique to the e-pubbed market: as the industry continues to change, one of the more puzzling changes the traditional publishing industry has made is to let go those who are in charge of their quality control. I'm sure I'm not the only one who has noticed the increase in problems of quality from all traditional publishers.
Then there is the question of individual style. There are some writers who couldn't get a traditional publishing deal due to the very nature of their writing style itself; the e-publishing market allows for these books to be available to the public, which otherwise were or would have been turned down by editors, or fundamentally altered to suit what the publishing house saw as "necessary" changes.
And if writers really do need editors, what does that say about the writers' ability to clearly communicate their story, themes, and characters? Should writers be expected to be incompetent? Should editors get co-author credit, if their work goes beyond tidying grammar?
Larry, thank you for this reminder that there are fringes in both self-pub and trad pub.
Unfortunately, those fringe books stick out, and give the rest of the writers a bad name. This doesn't just happen in the publishing industry but everywhere. E.g. bad apples in some fringe churches, and people assume ALL churches are bad. A few bad movies from Hollywood and we gag. A few bad politicians, and… you get the picture.
"There are some writers who couldn't get a traditional publishing deal due to the very nature of their writing style itself; the e-publishing market allows for these books to be available to the public, which otherwise were or would have been turned down by editors…."
This is one of the benefits of self-publishing. Discoverability is more for the everyday writers now, rather than just for a small elite group of authors.
But you see that there are many once traditionally published authors who are self-publishing now. So the blame can't go to purist self-pub authors re: their poorly edited work or whatnot, but also to any author of any kind and background.
E.g. Last night I read the first three chapters of such an author who was a NYT bestseller and has published over 30 books in her career. Well, the first three chapters of her new novel… I don't know what to say. It seems like there is a missing editorial pen in there somewhere. Something off. It's as if the author assumed that since she has been traditionally published that somehow her novel will be stellar. You know what, readers can tell. In the end I'd rather go read a technical IT manual upside down.
So it goes both ways.
Which proves your point, Wendy, that authors need editors, sometimes badly, regardless of how long they've been in the business, and whether they produce books or eBooks. I think it takes humility for a writer to hire an editor.
"The readers will not stay long."
That is so true. Even if the books are free or discounted in price, it would be hard for readers to remain loyal fans if the author's writing is no longer good reads.
I agree with what you said about traditionally published authors who go self-pub who might display a difference in their work. I think that gets to the question I raised, which is, "are writers expected to be incompetent?" Or, perhaps it is that with all the other duties writers have to do (social media, day jobs, etc.) that editors are a necessary function of a industry which tacitly acknowledges it demands too much of writers, and thus a fundamental aspect of the craft of writing has to be "outsourced" to a third party?
Which once more raises the question, do editors deserve co-author credit? If they perform such a fundamental role, if writers absolutely require editors, if editors are in fact part of the creative process of shaping a novel: are they not deserving of such credit?
Anything less is not something I would deem to be necessary, or that an author could possibly achieve on their own: and logic therefore dictates that unless an editors' role is that fundamental, that much of a contribution, that unique to the process of completing a novel, that they are not necessary for the process of making a novel.
Re: "co-author" credits. NO. Unless the editor is a ghost writer for that author. Or he is really the co-author and wrote most of the book. A writer who needs that much developmental editing probably should take a writing class.
For eBooks, it's common courtesy to mention the editor and the cover artist somewhere toward the front of the book. That's all. You've already thanked them with what Ramsey calls a "certificate of appreciation" — that big payment check, that flat fee for their editorial services.
"I could write a blog post just on that."
Please do!
As an editor, I admit, I have an advantage when self-editing my books. Still, I find typos later on and think, "How did I not see that?!" So yes, every writer needs an editor.
However, will I spend money to get my book edited? If I was self-publishing, yes. But I'm shooting for traditional publishing, and am hoping whatever publisher I land with has an editorial team to make my books the best they can be. I don't really have the money to spend to hire an editor before that point, say, before I send it to an agent or editor who might request it. However, I do send my books to my crit partner and a few beta readers beforehand to get a larger content edit of sorts…something I DO believe every writer should do before submission.
Lindsay,crit partners and beta readers are invaluable. One of my readers knows the ending of my story so she can help me see if the foreshadowing is well placed. The other reader doesn't know the ending, so I get her genuine reaction to each turn of events.
Thank you for this tip. I never thought of that before. I am taking note to do the same. -
What a GREAT idea, Jenni! I'm going to have to incorporate that.
That is exactly what I do, Jenni.
I meet with the readers separately and also glean from the body language they speak too.
We go over hard manuscripts together.
Critique group and beta readers ~ invaluable. -
Jenni which reader am I…do I know the whole ending?- I forget!
I read one self-pubbed book last year that was fabulous. Just great. But there was a section where the book veered into a rabbit trail that slowed the story. It should have been deleted, and if it had been, that book would have been as good as anything coming out of publishing houses today.
Wendy, how does a publisher decide which editor to pair with an author? Once they're paired up, do they continue their partnership through each of the author's contracts with that particular publishing house?
Cut your own bangs- just no, and that took me awhile to figure out.
If you read my comment typos, you will find I most surely, surely need an editor. I also need to keep revisiting the editing books you referenced, thank you. I revise A LOT, and I still miss things.
Lisa, I've only cut my own hair once. The stylist who had first shot at it massacred it. I would MUCH rather someone else cut my hair and edit my book, after I've put the best that I know into it.
Wendy, I'm all for paid professional editors. I think they have better eyes than the neighborhood critique group. Besides, you can fire an editor if you don't like them (except Jamie Chavez — she's a keeper, and I'm not even a client). But you pretty much can't fire friends and family if they do a poor job editing your manuscripts LOL.
I like pro editors so much I compiled a list of freelance editors on my Facebook page. It was supposed to be a shortlist, but it grew and grew. I feel that we do have good editors out there, and some don't cost $$$. You can get a decent developmental editor for a penny a word, or you can pay six cents a word. The decision belongs to the writer's pocketbook.
If anyone else knows of an editor they like, feel free to add to the list: http://tinyurl.com/dxntrzh
Having said that, I believe that the writer herself needs to know how to self-edit to begin with before she can sit down and write a proper manuscript. At least study the craft of writing (just look for James Scott Bell's books on Amazon), take some writing classes if necessary, and learn grammar basics. I think a writer who can self-edit will write better drafts, and will earn the respect of editors they hire.
But self-editing is not enough for a polished production, like Wendy said. IMO, regardless of whether you self-publish or go with a traditional publisher, I say it's embarrassing to produce manuscripts full of typos, and you can't blame the family pet's muddy paws.
I think that a writer needs to know her own limitations. There are so many types of editors to hire. Get some help. If it's a story arc problem, get a developmental editor. If there are grammatical or proofreading problem, get a copy or line editor. And get real editors, not that second cousin twice removed who once wrote a poem in Greek for the last family reunion, unless of course, he is an editor.
"Do you see a problem like this making readers shy away from self-published books? Do we see this happening in traditionally published books more often than before?"
No. Maybe.
These two questions are loaded, Wendy. Firstly, there are typos in both sides of the industry. Right now the cousins need to learn to be good neighbors LOL.
Secondly, there are good freelance editors everywhere who are apolitical, and they have no problem editing either self-published works or pre-query manuscripts.
As more Big 6 publishers get in on the eBooks realm, the quality to shoot for goes up, everybody knows they need to up their standards to remain competitive.
Interestingly, it's more than just editing and typos, really. In both self-publishing and traditional publishing, in the end it's still about the story. Grammatical errors and typos and mechanics are easily fixed. But the story is still what makes readers buy the book or eBooks and continue to buy books by the same authors.
As a reader, I look for the storytellers. Their books, I read, whether in print or eBooks. I can forgive copyediting problems, but if the story is poor, whether or not the book has gone through a developmental editor, as an avid reader, I just have to move on. Just as I've passed on reading some traditionally published novels because they are so poorly written, I've also passed on reading some eBooks for the same reason. So many other books and eBooks to read out there, so little time.
A wise author once said — when the water rises, it floats all boats. I think that's so true. When the quality goes up, the winners will be those wonderful readers for whom we write.
Thanks for the wisdom!
Can authors self-edit? Yes. Should we? Yes. Do we need to get a professional editor on board? Absolutely! I can only do so much on my own. I'm too close to the story to truly do it justice. I need those outside eyes to make sure everything makes sense. I live with the story 24/7, sometimes for years before it makes it to paper. The reader doesn't know about all the scenes I cut, all the backstory I wrote to bring the characters to life.
The reviewer's comments are why I'm so hesitant to read/buy most self-published books. It's why I refuse to self-publish right now. I can't afford a freelance editor and I refuse to put something up for sale without it.
I've been burned more than I've found gems when it comes to self-published books. Just because you can doesn't mean you should.
I shy away from self-published books because of the last one I purchased. It had a wonderful cover, great back cover blurb, and was grammatically correct. But it was full of chapters that went nowhere, characters that didn't belong, and a plot so full of holes it was amazing. The sad thing is the idea of the story was a good one…
Interesting discussion today, everyone. I am definitely not as good a self-editor as I want to be, at least as far as catching my own typos and making sure what I've said is what I mean. Since I'm writing picture books, I don't seek the help of an editor, but I do run all my books through my critique group. When I edit, I tackle content issues first. Then I go after typos, and finally I focus solely on grammar. Using this method has increased my skills at self-editing, but once my MG novel is done, I plan to find someone else.
I didn't see this brought up during our discussion, but I also feel it's too easy for a person to claim he's an editor. Many self-published authors I've interacted with have paid to have their books edited, only to find out many errors remained.
"I also feel it's too easy for a person to claim he's an editor."
Good point. Buyer beware! I think credentials are important, and referrals from other writers. I would look at the final result of the books they claim to have edited.
Also important to me is whether the editor understands the genre I write in.
"Many self-published authors I've interacted with have paid to have their books edited, only to find out many errors remained."
One round of editing isn't going to fix all the problems, yet that's all many self-publishing authors can afford. But desert/dessert? That should have been picked up.
This is one of the best posts and discussions I've seen. It amazes me that as writers we go to so much trouble to defend our every word – "our babies" – and then acknowledge that a few misspelled words, changes in POV, a shift in tense is acceptable to avoid paying an editor. As a previous quality management professional in healthcare and now an editor and author, I think quality control is spot on and shouldn't be ignored. Authors are lucky that our lack of quality control isn't as tragic as disasters like the oil spill in the Gulf or taking out the wrong kidney, but we have a responsibility to our clients and to the art of writing to make each piece clear and pristine. Why labor for years to create our tome and then insult it with mistakes? I, for one, am tired of finding a good read and then stumbling over basic line-edit mistakes!
Just last week, donnie and I were eating dessert in the desert It was delicious.
Wendy. . . I'd hate to think that with a single misplaced 's' – we would have been eating – sand in our strawberry shortcake.
Wendy, you are so, so right. Every time I get my edits back, I realize just how much I need an editor! A good editor is worth gold. A lot of gold. No matter how good I think my book is when I turn it in, I always end up cringing at the mistakes, missed opportunities, and ridiculous repetitions my editor points out. So thankful for editors! And it will be a bad day when I think I don't need them!
I think, to an extent, most authors can self-edit. First-timers need to, at least, so when they query agents, the agents aren't getting a poorly-written novel. But that's a good reason to have a circle of friends to read over your manuscripts and catch errors. But errors in any published book really bother me. It's one reason I'm not a big fan of self-publishing.
I am a writer who actually used to work as an editor, and I wholeheartedly agree that *even I* need an editor!
Another set of eyes on the page, another mind processing the words and plot … of inestimable value.
That's why I meet monthly with other local writers for critiques and why I shell out my dollars to hire editing help!
I appreciate all of the comments about the errors in traditionally published books. They are there; but when there are self-published authors to attack, traditionally published authors tend to get a break.
Wendy, I don't think I've ever heard anyone say that any agent did not want a professionally edited manuscript. In fact, I've always thought the opposite especially given the competition and the slush pile. Still thinking on this one….
I'm also still thinking on your statement about self-published authors being resentful toward publishers. Maybe I've tuned this discussion out in the past or I'm just clueless, but I can't imagine why this would be. I can see being disappointed about having a manuscript rejected, but I don't see the point to being resentful.
Please forgive these next comments as they "plug" my own blog, but the topic is fresh on my mind. I tackled editing on my blog today (one in a series on self-publishing), and yes, I did praise professional editing. One of the reasons I gave is that "we tend to see what we think should be there whether it is or not, especially after multiple readings and edits." Another reason I gave is that "a good professional editor can also alert you to industry standards with which you might not be familiar." I was rudely awakened to this second reason recently when I learned that CMS is the preferred style of publishers. I don't recall ever seeing this mentioned anywhere before.
I don't know about other self-published writers, but for me, having or not having my work professionally edited wasn't about thinking my words were golden but rather that there was no gold in my moneybag either! Yes, a good editor is worth gold, but I'm thankful I've found a good one who will accept silver.
Thanks, Wendy, for writing on this topic.
I certainly don't have a need for no editor. People just need to educate themselves on reading typos. It's easy. My friend's say they read stuff full of typoes all the time.
Yous Trully
In the self-pubbed world it is not the editor that the author has hopefully been wise enough to hire that submits the book. It is the typographer who makes the final entry. This is where the last human error occurs. There is a need to hire an ace editor, and a trustworthy, perfectionist, typographer. I don't know the exact ratio of self-pubbed authors that attempt all three jobs by themselves. That would be an interesting statistic.
Fresh eyes are a writer's best friend. Even a critique group's vision can blur if they've gone through the entire novel journey with you.
Readers are invaluable as Jenni mentioned earlier. They offer a fresh perspective. I have two for each novel and they never personally meet. One knows the end of the story and the other doesn't. I ask a man and a woman so I get the male and female take. They pick up things the critique group has missed and offer character insights that are usually 100% on target.
One thing my book club has noted these past few years is a definite increase in errors in traditionally published books, and a lesser quality paper. There are only two authors in the large group of ten. The lifelong avid readers are the most disappointed in the decline in the old standard of quality. They mark all the errors.
Editors are my favorite people!
Thank you for this terrific discussion, Wendy!
Hi Wendy. I agree that thinking that self-editing is sufficient is the path to the dark side. No matter how many times I read over my own manuscripts (and even read them out loud to myself) I always seem to miss something. Having someone else read the writing after I feel I have it perfect (haha)always helps as I invariably have made mistakes that I've failed to catch in the forty-five times (okay, SLIGHT exaggeration) I've self-edited the manuscript.
Have I noticed mistakes in self-published books? Very definitely. Have I found them in traditionally published books? Yes, but generally far fewer. Even so, the number of mistakes in traditionally published books seems to have increased, which I suppose is because of how over-worked and stressed everyone has become due to cut-backs. I can ignore a few mistakes (say, four or five in a 350 page novel), but as a reader I find numerous mistakes distracting.
Will readers shy away from self-published books because of the numerous mistakes? I already do avoid them, but I think the answer to the question varies from reader to reader. Some readers are more forgiving than I am and many of my friends aren't as disturbed or distracted by grammatical / mechanical errors as I am. As a reader / writer / English teacher, I tend to be hypersensitive to editing issues. It's an occupational hazard.
Can I just say this is so true. This reviewer had a happy ending to her story, because the writer actually took her words to heart. (And it would appear this reviewer is careful and specific, with a good grasp of English mechanics.) It's gotten to the point where I cringe a little when self-publishers ask me to review their books. They're so hopeful about publishing, but their books are filled with errors which even I can spot. One of the last ones was a sad story. That writer had paid an editor to line edit, but still it came back with crazy errors like plurals constructed with 's instead of s.
Perfection falls not to the share of mortals, least of all self-editing self-publishers.
However, the realities of life and finite resources dictate that we do the very best job we can on self-editing. Substantive (big picture) edits, copy edits, line edits, proofreading. You're talking about $1000 to $2000 for an 80,000 word novel. I don't know anyone who has that kind of money sitting around waiting to be invested in a self-published book. I sure don't.
And critique groups and beta readers are close to a joke. Maybe I've been unlucky with the ones I've had, but I have almost never received more than general feedback from beta readers, despite my giving proofreading-level edits in reciprocation. I think I would drop dead from disbelief if a beta reader ever gave me what I gave them. A critique group that meets twice a month will take two years to go through an average novel, so it's way too slow. Again, maybe I've been unlucky with the critique groups I've been in, but the knowledgable and helpful comments are mostly lacking.
So we have to learn to be good self-editors. Fortunately it's a learned skill, not an innate characteristics. For some it's easier than it is for others. We won't make our books perfect. But you know what? Readers don't demand perfection. If they did no book would ever sell a single copy. They just require a certain level of excellence, somewhere on the continuum between unreadable and perfect (hopefully pretty close to perfect).
My thesis advisor told me that it would take me at least 6 months to properly edit my PhD dissertation..I thought she was kidding but she was totally right. Now, I feel like I'm editing expert. But it's always good to have an editor look it over (painful at times but always helpful). My editor just had me revise things which I thought were funny…but he didn't. He was right.
It seems that no matter how many people go over something – including proofreaders and copy editors – the next person will find an error that all the others all missed.
In my tech writing field, editors have become rare, and are sorely missed. I once heard that even a good self-editor will find only about 70% of the errors on each editing pass. The problem is, we read what we think we wrote.
This is a wonderful lively conversation. Since I'm on a deadline, I rushed through all the comments. Please forgive me if someone else has made my point or if this comment contains errors.
I hold a degree in Psychology so the first question I'm contemplating is "why" do authors make so many mistakes. Before we become defensive shouldn't we ask if it is possible to be mistake free?
The answer is no. The human brain works at lightening speed once a task becomes ingrained. You may have received a forwarded e-mail that contains a paragraph of nonsense. Every word is jumbled in various ways. Yet…as the e-mail promised – it is possible to read. The brain recognizes the word even if it's misspelled. Because our brains have had many years of practice, we can get the message. Often we will "see" it spelled correctly even when it isn't. As Scott commented, that's a handicap that everyone has. For example…."Ym mtheor wkoe pu dna jneiod su ni eht lvinig moor." It may take a moment or two to catch the message….but you will be able to read the sentence.
If you are writing a 50,000 word book, you probably will never have the time to stop and concentrate on every single word. Instead, even when you "think" you are concentrating by reading the material slowly and properly checking for errors – your brain will speed ahead and you may not see mistakes. Especially if they are small.
The editor is invaluable because she will see your work for the first time and her brain is not thinking ahead. She didn't have the initial idea for the book so she must follow your lead. She will be jolted when the plot isn't right – whereas your brain will "think" the action that isn't expressed with words. Spelling and grammar errors will shine like beacons because she hasn't seen the material before.
This discussion shouldn't be about your ability. If you have chosen this profession and if you are working to be your best – it's not about your desire to produce quality work or even about your talents. WE all are striving for quality and to be the best we can be. It is about the nature of our brains and how they work. Do we have the ability to always overcome the massive lightening speed of our brains? Unfortunately, we do not. We simply can't catch it all. Like Scott's comment – we read what we "think" we wrote. If you want to be the best at your craft….you need a good editor and you need to trust that editor to promote your message or story by getting rid of the annoying errors that will hurt your work.
Jerry Jenkins is an excellent author and by this time in his career he could probably call himself an editor. Yet, I've caught several mistakes in his work. Why? The human brain will always speed ahead and not notice some errors. Thank goodness we are a team that needs each other. Thank goodness that God has called some to write and some to correct. As a team we can make our finished product the best it can be.
I've seen some people give themselves a pretty good haircut! Not everyone can, totally true, but some can.
I think using one book as an example of why all books need editing is a little narrow. There are many books out there that don't have that number of errors. Some people really can self edit their work to a pretty high standard.
I think the important think is to know yourself. I did get an editor, because I know I miss grammar subtleties. (And spelling!) I have a couple of friends though, who picked a dozen errors out of my edited book (that the editor missed), and who's books are remarkably error free.
I do definitely think though that you need someone to proofread your book, to pick up the words you've missed etc, because you've been over it so many times that you don't even see them anymore.
Thanks for the post. I have read a few books lately that were traditionally published that had typo's. We're all human….it happens.
To put it simply:
Self-published authors cannot edit their own work, because they know what each line is going to say, therefore, they do not see the boo-boo's.
I am a Self-published author and I do not edit my own work….No Way! I hire an editor.
I am also an artist and when my painting is ready to be framed, I seek the advice of a framer. :0)


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Sally Hansen • Hard As Nails Xtreme Wear in Peach Daiquiri • Polishes
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*TOP REVIEWER* sunshowers on 10/3/2011 5:14:00 AM more reviews by sunshowers
Age: 25-29 Skin: Sensitive, Medium, Warm Hair: Black Eyes: Brown
I was really disappointed with this polish. In the bottle it's a shimmery peachy orange color with a bit of silver glass fleck glitter. But it's soooooooo sheer, you are forced to layer it over an opaque orange polish to get anywhere near the bottle color. I tried to wear it on its own, and after three coats my nails were still only sort of peach-tinted, with a sprinkling of silver glitter. Not the look I was hoping for after that much work.
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DiaSolas on 5/14/2011 4:52:00 AM more reviews by DiaSolas
Age: 30-35 Skin: Combination, Fair-Medium Hair: Brown Eyes: Brown
This is a transparent top coat - type of nail polish.
I love using this to tone down a very bright hot pink nail polish that I love - the combination of the two colors makes a lovely and fun summer color. I recommend that you use this with another nail polish to enhance or create a new look! I love this polish!
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missyd915 on 3/13/2011 4:55:00 PM more reviews by missyd915
Age: 25-29 Skin: Normal, Fair, Cool Hair: Brunette, Straight, Fine Eyes: Blue
Loved the look of this in the bottle but i needed like a bazillion coats to get a true colur to show up and even then although it looks nice, it is hard work because there are so many coats that it takes forever to properly set and gets smidged and dented even hours later. Gonna use this to layer over another peach i think to save the hassle.
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*TOP REVIEWER* ayngemac on 1/14/2011 8:31:00 PM more reviews by ayngemac
Age: 30-35 Skin: Oily, Olive, Cool Hair: Black, Wavy, Medium Eyes: Brown
This is a gorgeous shimmering peace, but I needed three coats. Bah!
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evonneSTYLE on 1/13/2009 4:40:00 PM more reviews by evonneSTYLE
Age: 18 & Under Skin: Combination, Fair Hair: Black Eyes: Brown
Price [2] ( 3.00 CAN )
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I can reason with the other reviews, but I really do quite like this!
Of course you will have to be layering and layering, but it is a very cute colour.
I have asian skin, but I lean towards the fair skin type. I do have olive and yellow undertones, but I like the way this colour compliments my skin tone.
I will be repurchasing,
I quite adore it!
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jetfan on 11/25/2008 2:46:00 PM more reviews by jetfan
Age: 36-43 Skin: Acne-prone, Medium, Warm Hair: Blond Eyes: Hazel
Not to bash it, I generally like Sally Hansen NP, but this literally made my nails look dirty. Like the yellowish tint you get from some really dark nail polish. I put on 3 or 4 coats, (which I hate having to do) to try to get some color payoff, but nope. Just looks like I have dirty, yellow nails.
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spiffytiffi912 on 7/25/2008 9:58:00 PM more reviews by spiffytiffi912
Age: Unknown Skin: Oily, Fair-Medium Hair: Black Eyes: Brown
While I understand the the low reviews this polish has gotten (mainly because of its sheerness), I really like it! I just got it today at Target and paid a measly $2 something for it, so you can't beat the price.
Yes, the color in the bottle is a beautiful peachy color, but when you swipe it on, it's very, very sheer - a barely there sheen of peach and a nice glimmer (not too glittery). Once you layer it on about 3-4 times, you get a more peachy kick, but by no means expect the pure color you get on the bottle. With that said, I still bought it. Why? The color shows up well enough and it's a gorgeous shade (it reminds me of Nars Orgasm). It's subtle, it's pretty, it's easy to put on (usually I'd hate to put on more than a few layers, but because it's so sheer, it's very quick and easy). I have asian skin, somewhat pale but with an olive/yellow tone, and it compliments my skin. I really like the slick, glossy look of it - very sophisticated yet fun. I can't stop looking at my nails!
It's good for when I'm in a hurry and I don't want to fuss about making sure the color coats evenly, or if mistakes will show up on the sides of my fingertips (which always happens because I'm clumsy and impatient). It's a nice, warm weather shade that's not too extreme for anything professional. The texture is great, very smooth, and unless this chips easily (which I doubt - and even if it did, it's sheer! hard to notice!), I will be buying this again. Lovely!
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*TOP REVIEWER* verolyn on 6/5/2008 4:53:00 PM more reviews by verolyn
Age: 30-35 Skin: Combination, Fair, Warm Hair: Brown, Straight, Fine Eyes: Hazel
I, too, wanted the juicy peach color in the bottle. I knew it would be very sheer, but it was very very sheer, and very runny. It went on as just another iridescent pink on me. You can apply several coats to get a darker color, but it applies unevenly. For me, it was just bubble gum pink without an orangey peach undertone. Not at all what I wanted. I'll use this up as a top coat, but would not buy again.
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carrotcake on 6/3/2008 9:35:00 PM more reviews by carrotcake
Age: 30-35 Skin: Combination, Fair-Medium Hair: Brown Eyes: Green
I'm going to be the dissenter in these reviews. Yes, it is very sheer, and I was suprised at how sheer it was. BUT after 3 coats, it becomes this beautiful shimmery peach color that is perfect for summer. It's still a little sheer, but I like that. It applies easily (even for needing 3 coats) and lasts awhile. I wish I didn't need to apply 3 coats, but as it were, I find myself reaching for this often when I need to do my nails.
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cinnamonstar on 4/15/2007 7:47:00 PM more reviews by cinnamonstar
Age: 19-24 Skin: Acne-prone Hair: Black Eyes: Brown
I totally agree with the reviewer below. This nailpolish is clear with a sparkle-y sheen. I was disappointed because I wanted the pretty peach colour in the bottle. On the plus side, this was $2 so its not like I wasted a lot of money. I will use it as a topcoat only and therefore, I will never need to buy it again.
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Jersey city man pleads guilty in bank fraud scheme
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NEWARK, N.J. – Syed Rehman, 44, of Jersey City, N.J, today admitted his role in a bank fraud scheme in which he used unlawfully obtained Social Security numbers to obtain credit cards and mortgages, causing four banks to lose a total of approximately $1 million, U.S. Attorney Paul J. Fishman announced.
Rehman pleaded guilty before U.S. District Judge José L. Linares in Newark federal court to an Information charging him with one count of bank fraud.
According to documents filed in the case and statements made in court:
Rehman admitted he was part of a scheme involving the use of unlawfully obtained Social Security numbers to open bank accounts and obtain credit cards and mortgage loans. Rehman admitted that he paid an employee of the Social Security administration in order to unlawfully obtain Social Security numbers. Rehman was the owner of ZHN Auto Repair in New York, and he allowed other participants in the scheme to use his business to establish false employment histories and claim high salaries in order to induce the banks to issue credit cards and mortgages. Rehman admitted that he and the other participants in the scheme never intended to repay the banks. The scheme caused J.P. Morgan Chase Bank, Bank of America and Citigroup group to lose approximately $1 million.
The bank fraud charge to which Rehman pleaded guilty carries a maximum penalty of 30 years in prison and a fine of $1 million. Sentencing before Judge Linares is scheduled for Feb. 15, 2012.
U.S. Attorney Fishman thanked inspectors from the U.S. Postal Inspection Service, Newark Division, under the direction of Inspector in Charge Philip R. Bartlett, and agents of the Social Security Administration-Office of Inspector General, under the direction of Special Agent in Charge Edward J. Ryan, for the investigation leading to today's guilty plea.
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Saint Joseph Health System has been awarded a $250,000 grant funded by the federal government's Social Innovation Fund and the Foundation for a Healthy Kentucky. Saint Joseph Health System will use its grant to establish primary-care clinics in Powell and Wolfe counties. These satellite clinics will be staffed by nurse practitioners and will utilize telemedicine technology to collaborate with physicians and specialists located at a central location. The clinics will provide more than 3,200 practice visits during the first year of operation, and are projected to grow to more than 7,000 annual visits in three years. By improving access to care in these low-income, rural communities, Saint Joseph Health System aims to improve general health status and chronic disease management, in particular. |


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Clarksville, TN – On April 15th, Austin Peay State University recognized several outstanding faculty members during the annual Academic Honors and Awards Ceremony in the Mabry Concert Hall.
During an emotional presentation, the University's top faculty honor, the APSU National Alumni Association Distinguished Professor Award, was presented posthumously to John Moseley, associate professor of communication. Moseley passed away on February 9th, after an 18-year career as an active faculty member at APSU. «Read the rest of this article»
Clarksville, TN – "Are you a subject or are you a citizen?" That was an important question for many Senegalese men during World War II, when they joined the Colonial French Army.
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Clarksville, TN – An Austin Peay State University animal science professor will present the next session of the Provost Lecture Series this week at APSU.
Dr. Rodney Mills, assistant professor of animal science, will present at 3:00pm, Thursday, January 30th, in the Morgan University Center, Room 303. The title of his lecture is "Development of a Sustainable Beef Production System: A Case Study of the APSU Farm and Environmental Education Center."
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Clarksville, TN – An Austin Peay State University geosciences professor will present the next session of the Provost Lecture Series this week at APSU.
Dr. Christopher Gentry, associate professor of geography, will present at 3:00pm, Thursday, January 23rd, in the Morgan University Center, Room 303. «Read the rest of this article»
Clarksville, TN – Two members of the Austin Peay State University community returned to campus this fall with new job titles in order to maintain the University's status as a thriving institution of higher education.
President Barack Obama highlighted that status in August when he singled out APSU as a leader in using technology to better serve students.
Clarksville, TN – An Austin Peay State University graduate student will showcase her work at the Legislative Plaza in Nashville, TN as part of the annual Graduate Education Week in Tennessee, April 1st-7th.
Veronica Mullen will present research, titled "Population demographics and site-fidelity among cave-dwelling bats of Dunbar Cave, Montgomery County, Tennessee," which was co-authored by Dr. Andrew Barrass, associate professor in the APSU Center of Excellence for Field Biology at APSU.
APSU Biology Program Graduate student Veronica Mullen releases a freshly tagged bat at Dunbar Cave in July
Clarksville, TN – A group of seven Austin Peay State University faculty members recently completed a new program at the school aimed at promoting excellence in teaching.
The APSU Office of Academic Affairs, the Title III Center for Teaching and Learning and the APSU Center for Extended and Distance Education recently co-sponsored the Faculty Teaching Program, which solicited a diverse group of top applicants from throughout APSU's different colleges and academic departments.
APSU Faculty Teaching Program participants Dr. Karen Meisch, Dr. Emily Hanna Crane, Dr. Christine Mathenge, Dr. Stephen Truhon, Dr. Folashade Agusto, Dr. Jill Eichhorn and Dr. Thomas O'Conner. (Photo by Beth Liggett/APSU Staff)
Clarksville, TN – Austin Peay State University (APSU) is harnessing "the Netflix effect" to new heights.
More than a year ago, APSU launched Degree Compass, a course recommendation system to help students stay on track toward graduation by. It was dubbed "the Netflix effect" because it provides students with personalized recommendations based on their academic transcript, similar to the way Netflix makes movie suggestions to customers. «Read the rest of this article»
Clarksville, TN – If you follow trends and news pertaining to higher education, then you know one of the more exciting developments in recent years is the new Degree Compass course recommendation system that was created at Austin Peay State University.
The system, which was lauded by the Chronicle of Higher Education in the article, "The Netflix Effect: When Software Suggests Students' Courses," works similar to sites such as Netflix and Amazon.com by suggesting to students what courses best fit their talents and programs of study. «Read the rest of this article»
Clarksville, TN – Austin Peay State University officials announce the following recent personnel hirings and transfers:
Kim Balevre, graphic designer in the Office of Public Relations and Marketing.
Amy Barrett, admissions and records clerk in the Office of the Registrar. «Read the rest of this article»


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Street DDs December 2013 + News :iconThe-Yard-collective: is hosting monthly street photography challenges. I hope you will take part to them and enjoy yourself. January's theme is 'Reflections'. You can enter as many photos as you wish, old and new ones. New ones are highly encouraged. Images will be automatically approved and uploaded to a favorite folder and every month the most interesting, representative, original ones will be featured and moved to our featured folder. In our hopes the challenges can be a spur to go out and take photos, a way to prove yourself and your skills, and of course share and promote your photos.http://the-yard-collective.deviantart.com/blog/ Please check out :iconeyalbin: new website http://www.eyalbinehaker.comEyal's photos are brilliant, sharp, inspiring and surprising. Show him some support.
Why Street Photography is not documentaryStreet photography is an eye focused on the ordinary, on the every day life. Its interest is in capturing every day moments and situations that filtered through the sensitivity, vision, personality of the photographer are able to pass emotions and sensations to the viewer.Moments can be of every kind: ironic, sad, melancholic, surreal, beautiful, wry, tender, poetic, destabilizing, iconic, descriptive. They all show aspects of life. Sharing with you an interesting article by Evangelo Costadimas. Why Street Photography is not Documentary Photographyby Evangelo Costadimassource http://www.streetviewphotography.net/b-spvsdp/"Art is a lie that makes us realize the truth" – Pablo PicassoLook-up 'Street Photography' in Wikipedia and the attempt to define it starts with '… a form of documentary photography'. But is it really? Both Street Pho
Tokyo bluesEXTREME STREET PHOTOGRAPHY - VAre there places were street photography is impossible? Are there countries easier than others, or harder than others? How is it street shooting like in exotic places, or places you never visited, places that are completely different from what you are used to? I asked a few street photographers around the world to share with us their experiences.This article was written for us by Lukasz Kazimierz aka :iconburningmonk:Japan is a fascinating country with an unusual mix of the traditional and modern. It's a magical place filled with anime, cosplayers, samurai, sushi, and all the strangest things imaginable. Wrong! Well, not really, but this is just the cliché, outer covering. When newcomers just scratch the surface of this country, this cliché is all they find. But, in reality, Japan is a place like any other: full of human beings who have normal lives with all their little dr
Street and neighborhoodSometimes deciding if a photo fits Street category or not can be really quibbling. Categories mean nothing outside this place (or other art sites) and mean nothing about the value or quality of an image. Though they are useful to make it easier to see, discover, find street images. I hope that these few lines will be able to clear some of the most common doubts in submitting to street category, and would spare you flipping a coin before submitting. So let's try to set some limits to street photography, even knowing that the edges between street photography and other neighbors genres of photography will ALWAYS be thin, vague, and often subjective.ENVIROMENTAL PORTRAIT, SPONTANEOUS PORTRAIT OR STREET?What is the difference between enviromental portrait or spontaneous portrait and street photography?A street photograph is not posed. If the portrait is posed it is not street (whoa I made a syllogism).A street photograph needs a background. A NOT vague or accidental backgrou
Statistics on Street PhotographyToday I'm bringing you some statistics from our beloved dA Street Gallery:Top 15 of what people submit in the Street Gallery (or Top 15 of the Miscats):1 street signs2 side-walk close-ups3 love padlocks4 shoes (All Stars preferably)/photographer's feet5 graffiti/tags/street art/cool vandalism6 empty roads7 cats8 skaters9 abandoned buildings/urband decay/trash10 cool cars11 cosplayers posing in fairs12 family in family-trips, friends in cool poses13 sexy models in subways/women wrestling in swimming suit (don't ask, I don't know) 14 lights bokeh15 light paintingsTop 10 of what people capture when shooting Street (or Top 10 of boring street):1 homeless sleeping2 Beggar begging3 Pedestrians photographed from the back4 Kids chasing after pigeons5 Beggars feeding pigeons6 Upside-down shadows7 Umbrella-ella-ella8 People passing in front of a poster/graffiti9 People in bicycle10 People waiting for the tubeTop 10 of the most frequent
The Streettog: An Unexpected Journey"There is nothing like looking, if you want to find something. You certainly usually find something, if you look, but it is not always quite the something you were after." (J.R.R. Tolkien, The Hobbit, )Taking a successful street photo, a photo that is able to strike, surprise, trigger an emotional response is not easy. You have to be looking, without really knowing for what.You have to be looking for the unexpected.You have to be alert, focused, intuitive, to foresee what could be a potential good street photo."Street Photography may be the single most difficult photographic genre. It is a fierce challenge: to condense from the chaos of reality something visually valid and psychologically revealing about both the subject, the viewer and perhaps the photographer into a rectangle in a fraction of a second. The editing process can be downright heartbreaking: so many frames, so few photographs". (Richard Bram)"When shooting, I don't know precisely what I'm looking f
Street DDs: October 2013Dear friends and watchers, 6 months have passed since I started my CV term and I would like to hear your feedback: complaints, suggestions, requests, comments, whatever. Enjoy October's Street DDs and remember: if you want to see images featured as DDs, you have to suggest them :iconPen-at-Work::iconNunofigueira::icontruerebellion::iconDouglasHumphries::icone-l-a-n-i::iconchimneysweeper::icondaliscar::iconferg3110::iconvitaloverdose::iconJack070::iconAwstein:Here's to you by Awstein:iconpigarot:
Just because you shot it in the street...JUST BECAUSE YOU SHOT IT IN THE STREET IT DOESN'T MAKE IT "STREET PHOTOGRAPHY"Street Photography is a largely misunderstood and misinterpreted photography genre http://myraincheck.deviantart.com/art/Statistics-on-Street-Photography-371453155 .So, let's try to kill the most common misunderstandings:Street photography is not photography of (empty) streets and it is not necessarily a photo taken in a street.Street photography most definitely is not photography of your All Stars shoes in the street, it is not photography of your cat, or of graffiti or 'street art' (that's another genre of photography), it is not photography of your friends or family on trip.Let's see some attempts to define street photography:"The essence of street photography is the impulse to take candid pictures in the stream of everyday life" (from 'Street photography Now')." For the most part, however, the photographers discussed in these pages have tried to work without being noti
STREET RACK : Vol. 1Abrivadoby - 13-septembreThe cowboyby - PatrickMonnierThe Rubber Shooterby - sandas0400273 by - NunoFigueira LifeForms - Travel without movementby - CwitheVoyeurby - saintvinasseobtuseby - lightdrafterShinzo Abe in Singaporeby - Timothy-Sim
Of street photography and balletProbably the silliest article I've ever written. Or just an excuse for a feature. Descriptions are freely taken from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glossary_of_balletPremière position of street shooting:Through a viewfinder or LCDSeconde position of street shooting: Hipshot:Raise your arms to the side. Keep your arms slightly rounded. Lower your elbows slightly below your shoulders. Make sure your wrists are lower than your elbows. Keep your shoulders down, your neck long and your chin up. Pirouette à la secondeOr framing sideways with a tiltable screen:À la seconde usually means a movement done to the side such as a 'tendu', 'glisse' or 'grand battement à la seconde'. A technically challenging type of turn is pirouette à la seconde, where the ph
Aspect Ratio, Composition, Present and FuturePhotography is simply a technology that allows you to record a moment in time, in a box that simply captures a moment of light. Simple and basic as that, no myth there.But the decision on how to capture that moment and its variables like composition, time and subject matter remain in the hands of photographer.Let's talk about that box, how it affects composition, and the time we live in. Photographic technology has developed at a rapid pace. From the 19th century's cumbersome daguerreotypes to today's compact digital cameras, photography has become one of the most accessible art mediums, but more related to motion pictures that we might think, being at the same time influence and influenced by each other.4:3 (1.33) The original aspect ratio used by the motion picture was industry was 4:3, or ratio down to 1.33:1, or just 1.33. Theories why vary from from Euclid's famous Greek "Golden Section", a shape of approximately 1.6, to a shape that simply saved m
The Sc-Avenger: June 2013** by stringoiuExcuse Me by VermontsterScene de rue - 325 by C-Jookamazed - color street by fabrizzialexTrust the Freshness of the Stripes by wchildRun by VermontsterBlues brothers by wheeler-photographic** by stringoiuSpotlights on::iconsgaze: :iconlightdrafter: :iconvulezvrk: :iconstraightfromcamera: More at: http://thestreetsweeper.deviantart.com/favourites/
Moments Before MutilationFinnish photographer Meeri Koutaniemi visited Kenya to document a circumcision ritual of two young girls. Her photographs were featured in the following article in the Finnish leading newspaper Helsingin Sanomat: http://www.hs.fi/datajournalismi/Hetki+ennen+silpomista++suomalaiskuvaaja+todisti+kahden+tyt%C3%B6n+ymp%C3%A4rileikkausta+Keniassa/a1305766700849?ref=tf_iHSvauvaboksi-aihe&jako=cdc03c803e9986275db20cf8b8d59cd7 The article is titled 'Moments before mutilation'. Unfortunatelly it is only available in Finnish but you can always use Google Translator, right?This black and white imagery is at the same time both beautiful and painful to look at.
The Battle We Didn't ChooseNote - these aren't photos of me or by me but a feature of photos from:http://mywifesfightwithbreastcancer.com/Photos copyright Angelo Merendino
EXCEPTIONAL PHOTOGRAPHERS ON deviantART. Ed. APRILSunny greetings from Greece everyone! For this month's feature I chose someone I admire for his talent, his mediterranean temperament and his emotional generosity, Doug Richards :iconDougNZ: - Tell us a little about yourself.- I'm the youngest of 14 children – 7 brothers and 7 sistersI was born and still live in Auckland, New Zealand, though I spent years travelling and living abroad in the UK, Europe, Australia, Philippines and USA.Last year I made a huge career change after decades of selling new houses to working as an Employment Broker helping to get the unemployed back into work – less than half the income for me but ten times the satisfaction.Two kids – a boy and a girl. Two grandkids – a boy and a girl. - How did your relationship with Photography begin and how has it developed through the years?- I'm so old that I can remember taking photos of my brother with a Kodak Box Brownie. I
"Street": The origins - Defining StreetStreet Photography: The Origins As we all know from the movie My Big Fat Greek Wedding everything was invented by the Greeks.Well, ok we left some trivial things to be invented by the Chinese as well.What you may not know is that Street photography was also invented by the Greeks before Photography itself was even invented.Seriously now:Kairos is an ancient Greek word meaning the right or opportune moment or "the supreme moment". The Greeks believed the concept of Kairos is achieved when such a moment is grasped for otherwise the moment is gone and cannot be re-captured. According to ancient Greeks, Kairos was the god of the "fleeting moment."Interestingly the ancient Greeks had two words for time, chronos and kairos. Whi
KiwilandEXTREME STREET PHOTOGRAPHY - VIIAre there places were street photography is impossible? Are there countries easier than others, or harder than others? How is it street shooting like in exotic places, or places you never visited, places that are completely different from what you are used to? I asked a few street photographers around the world to share with us their experiences.This article was written for us by Doug Richards aka :iconDougNZ: from New Zealand.Chuck Close, an American painter and photographer, said:"I always thought that inspiration is for amateurs. The rest of us just show up and get to work. You sign onto a process and see where it takes you. You don't have to invent the wheel every day. Today you'll do what you did yesterday and tomorrow you'll do what you did today. Eventually you'll get somewhere. Every great idea I ever had grew out of work itself. If you're going to wait a around for
EXCEPTIONAL PHOTOGRAPHERS ON deviantART ED. JULYHello Everybody,For this edition the wonderful photographer Patrick :iconPhotocolo: kindly accepted to be with us.I bet when you visit his gallery after reading this article you will feel at home.-Tell us a little about yourself. -I was born and raised in the French part of Switzerland and left at the age of 18. I moved to London where I learned English and stayed for six months. After that, I moved to San Diego, California. After struggling with various illegal jobs at $5/hr (dishwasher, construction, gardening) I decided to go to college here in the US. To make a long story short, I ended getting my PhD in Psychology and spent over ten year in academia as a professor during which I taught and conducted researched and published in the area of color vision and visual attention. More recently, I have had a bit of a mid-life crisis, left academia (big relief) and trained in conflict
EXCEPTIONAL PHOTOGRAPHERS ON dA ed. FEBRUARYfrom "Queen of Silhouettes" to "The Girl with the Pearl Earring"Hello everybody,this month we are together with wonderful photographer Iryna :iconIFedorovskaya:. In her galleries you will discover the magic of the light and admire how smoothly she handles it.-Tell us a little about yourself.Hello everybody and thank you for all your tremendous support and kindness you gave me here, on deviantart. I was born in Ukraine 40 years ago in family of professional musicians. Everybody, not only my mom and dad, uncles, aunts, cousins, my two stepfathers play or played instruments... Of course, I had no choice but to play piano. But then tradition was broken, I graduated from State Economics University. Worked as accountant for only 2 months (too boring). Then I was a DJ, host of couple shows on local radio station, political journalist. On weekends I
Friday night Specials v1.3image by wchildIf you like what you see, this article so it can reach as many deviants as possible.A weekly selection amongst the images I liked, while browsing the Street Galleryand I think they deserve more attention. Enjoy them, comment on them and remember to visit the photographers' galleries as well.Have a nice weekend.
5 StepsStep one is to be there. That is the most important thing. I always keep a quote from Andrew Zuckerman in my mind when I'm not shooting, when I'm sitting at home and contemplating whether or not to get out of the house. I'm paraphrasing but it goes something like this: "Creativity is the product of curiosity and rigor." Curiosity gets you out of the house and going to specific placeslikely places you have never been to before. Rigor gets you doing this consistently, even when you're shooting bad photos and feel discouraged. To get the good shots, you have to be there.With that out of the way I do have a few specific techniques and ideas to keep in mind when shooting people in the streets. Since we already covered the first step, we could call this step two. Step two is to know your gear and be comfortable with it. Shooting needs to happen instantly without any fumbling with your camera. It should always be ready to shoot and set in a way that allows you to react instantly. When the c
A WEEK IN STREET [17/2014]Give these gems all the 's they deserve!:iconkillitwithfire::iconomg--plz::iconkillthatwithfire:
Friday night Specials v2.4If you like what you see, this articleso it can reach as many deviants as possible.A weekly selection amongst the images I liked,while browsing the Street Galleryand I think they deserve more attention.Enjoy them, comment on them and rememberto visit the photographers' galleries as well.Have a nice weekend
Friday night Specials v10.3If you like what you see, this article so it can reach as many deviants as possible.A weekly selection amongst the images I liked, while browsing the Street Galleryand I think they deserve more attention. Enjoy them, comment on them and remember to visit the photographers' galleries as well.Have a nice weekend.
The Yard Collective EditorialHello, dear Members, Watchers and bystanders. This Journal is an Editorial, general one. Lots of words, few pixels. But, if your bare with me it will (probably) make sense. Long is the list of Journals and notes about street photography, definitions, tendencies, and all that philosophy that comes with the genre we came to love. But, as a community, street photographers are in part forgetting to go through the ABC periodically, so that newcomers and enthusiasts can feel comfortable and empowered to taste this misunderstood part of photography. So, with a surprise unveiled somewhere below, let's start going through the ABC (I'll be needing your important input as comment too), like that part in the end of the camera's user guide : "Camera doesn't shot>Turn it on; Camera doesn't work>Check your batteries for charge." Maint
A WEEK IN STREET [16/2014]Give these gems all the 's they deserve! I know I did.Stripes Overload!!! by MARX77Hole by IFedorovskayaU5 IX by iDie2014Apr12 8387 by Bearhawk07.... by panfotoclues of a driver sleeping in the cargo bay by lightdrafterThere's a couple of days left to the April Monthly Challenge 'SURREAL' at the YARD :iconkillitwithfire::iconomg--plz::iconkillthatwithfire:
FELIX LUPAFELIX LUPAAboutBorn in 1972 in the Ukraine, in the former Soviet Union. A second generation photographer, freelance since 1995, working with Israel's leading newspapers.Specialized in reportage, documentary and street photography, Felix Lupa has worked in social projects for magazines and Television and has taken part in many national and international exhibitions. Lately dedicated to street photography, his approach to the genre is to serve 'as "public eye", conveying to us messages of the street's wisdom. These are multifaceted, complex messages in which the senses work powerfully conveying at high velocity the feeling of decisive moments of street and human life. The ability to see and connect with human situations is like a basic instinct, like breathing, and the public eye is the medium through which the artist expresses his particular point of view'.websitehttp://www.felixlupa.comMember of Street Ganghttp://www.streetgangphotos.comAn international Street Photography col


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December 12. 13, 19, and 20, 2014• 6-9 p.m. December 21, 2014 • Noon-5 p.m.
Meet Saint Nicholas himself and an assortment of 19th-century characters who'll make this holiday season memorable for one and all.
Family Friendly: This event has activities and performances that will engage and entertain multiple age groups, from toddler to teenager. Buildings are heated and there are modern restrooms with changing tables. Most of the Ohio Village is gravel road, but strollers move easily on the boardwalk that runs around entire village. Call 800-686-1541 with any accommodation questions; we're here to help.
Attire: Please dress for the weather. Everyone will be able to warm up in the buildings, but it is still December in Ohio (no matter what century it is!).
Admission: $12/adult, $9/youth (6-12); $10/Ohio History Connection adult member, $7/Ohio History Connection youth member (6-12); and FREE/child (5 and under). Tickets can also be purchased at the door. Parking: FREE
Location: Ohio Village is located at I-71 and 17th Ave. (Exit 111) in Columbus. Click here for directions
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Accessibility is a priority for the Ohio History Connection, but please note that not all of our Village buildings are wheelchair accessible.
Dickens of a Christmas Event Details Activities, Sites, and Performances
Throughout Ohio Village You may have a chance encounter with the Ghost of Marley and the giver of gifts, St. Nick.
A Christmas Carol Play, TOWN HALL, 6:30 p.m. & 7:30 p.m. on Friday and Saturday, additional performances on Sunday Join in the fun with this interactive presentation of Charles Dickens' A Christmas Carol. A Visit with St. Nicholas, CHURCH, 7 p.m. Friday and Saturday, additional performance on Sunday Meet St. Nicholas, the 4th-century Bishop who inspired Santa Claus. Ohio Village Singers, TOWN HALL, 7 p.m. & 8 p.m. Friday and Saturday, additional performances on Sunday Listen to the sounds of the season. They will carol throughout the Village between the concerts.
A Christmas Carol Puppets, SCHOOL HOUSE Take time to put on your own puppet show with puppets, stage and script. Christmas Cards, NEWSPAPER OFFICE Hand tint Victorian Christmas cards, including a reproduction of the first official Christmas card created in England in 1843. Holiday Shopping, GENERAL STORE Stop in the Store for some last minute holiday shopping. You never know what unique gift items you'll find! Tastes of Christmas, FARM HOUSE Stop in to see what is being prepared for the holiday and sample some tasty treats. Stringing Popcorn for the Holiday Tree, LODGING HOUSE Visitors are welcome to string popcorn and cranberries for our tree, or are welcome to take them home for their own tree. The Scents of Christmas, PHARMACY Visitors can make bouquets of fresh greens to bring the special scents of Christmas into their own homes. Victorian Folded Paper Boxes, FREIGHT OFFICE Make and decorate your own gift-giving holiday box. St. Nicholas Traditions, YELLOW RESIDENCE Learn about a fun gift-giving tradition and the real person whose good deeds inspired Santa Claus. Christmas Carol Ghosts, FUNERAL PARLOR Meet Scrooge's unwelcome guests, the ghosts of Christmas past, present and future. Toys & Crafts, TOY SHOP For all the young at heart, stop in to play with some old games and toys. You will also have the opportunity to make a craft or decoration. Victorian Holiday Traditions, DOCTOR'S HOUSE Dickens referred to the Christmas tree as "a pretty little German toy." Learn about the Christmas tree and other Victorian traditions, such as wassail, Christmas Pie and the Yule Log. Roasted Chestnuts, MARKET HOUSE Have you ever tasted a roasted chestnut? Well here is your chance. You may partake in this tasty treat for a nominal fee.
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Dickens of a Dinner SOLD OUT! Friday, Dec. 12, 2014 • 6-7:30 p.m. SOLD OUT! Saturday, Dec. 13, 2014 • 6-7:30m p.m. SOLD OUT! Friday, Dec. 19, 2014 • 6-7:30 p.m. SOLD OUT! Saturday, Dec. 20, 2014 • 6-7:30p.m. • Advance registration is required for this popular holiday event. Feast on a sumptuous Dickens of a Dinner at the American House Hotel and hear carols performed by the Ohio Village Singers, then enjoy Dickens of a Christmas festivities throughout Ohio Village until 9 p.m., included with dinner. $60/adult ($50/Ohio History Connection member). Cash bar available. Advance registration is required for this popular holiday event. Call 800.686.1541 to make your reservation. You can also make your reservation online by clicking here.
Christmas Buffet Sunday, Dec. 21, 2014 SOLD OUT! 11 a.m. SOLD OUT! 2 p.m. • Advance registration is required for this popular holiday event. Enjoy a Christmas Buffet at the American House Hotel and hear carols performed by the Ohio Village Singers. Take in Dickens of a Christmas festivities throughout Ohio Village from noon-5 p.m., included with the Christmas Buffet.$44/adult, $22/youth (ages 6-12); $35/Ohio History Connection adult member, $19/Ohio History Connection youth member (6-12). Advance registration is required for this popular holiday event. Call 800.686.1541 to make your reservation.You may also make your reservation online by clicking here.
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Starlet Knit Dress
Starlet dress never disappoints
I now have five of these, purchased over the last 3-4 years. Can't ever go wrong--fabric is easy, comfy, flattering ... and these are my summer staples for work. Perfect length--not too long or short. I ordinarily wear a size 6, and I always get the size small.
March 1, 2015
It's true! This is a great dress!
I just purchased this online after reading all the fabulous reviews and it's true - it's a great dress! I love the material, the style, sexy yet not too much, just the right length (I'm 5'4) comes to just above my knee. This will be my go to vacation and summer dress, perfect with a white sweater or short jacket - so glad I ordered it! Can be dressed up with jewelry and heels and dressed down with flat sandals and a sweater.
February 22, 2015
Awful pockets
The pockets in the front of this dress are simply awful. They are not flattering and make it look like my hips have funny bulges even when nothing is in the pockets. This was returned immediately.
February 7, 2015
Cute Dress but no petite
I would love to have this dress, but since Garnet Hill does not offer dresses in petite sizes I cannot wear them. While they offer "tall" sizes, those of us with shorter bodies must make do with ill fitting dresses. Not an option for me. Petite sized dresses not only are shorter, but the bust darts and arm holes and hips are also placed higher up on the garment. Too bad.
January 31, 2015
A Star!
This past summer, I decided to take my Starlet knit dress on vacation to Yellowstone National Park & the Grand Tetons. I thought the pockets would come in handy and it is so comfortable. The night temperatures in late June were in the low 40s, so I also packed warm weather clothes. Well, I NEVER wore the warm clothes as it was too hot. I wore the startlet dress more than half of the days except when I went hiking. It was perfect.
In early October, I had to go to a conference in Dallas, so I ordered another startlet dress and wore it. Its a great travel piece. I hope you have more patterns next year!
November 2, 2014
Love this dress!
Just got this on sale and I am in love! I'm 5' 1" and110 pounds and I was afraid that this dress might show every imperfection and extra pound but it's perfect in size XS. Not too clingy, falls nicely and a nice length. Crossover neckline is modest too. Very flattering dress.
Garnet hill - pls offer more solid color options - castle rock? Fuschia? Black? I'd get them all.
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Yes, this dress would still work with a long waist.3 years ago
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I'm a long torso in swim suits - not sure if that's the same as long waisted. The dress crosses high enough to fully cover. I'm only a B cup - but still understand the concern, as I have some crossover tops that I regret buying, because they don't cover, meaning they don't work for most occasions. This dress doesn't have those issues. Fits well, great fabric.Age: 55-64
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Any of the Merino sweaters will look great! GH is awesome about making bright neutrals. Try the purple or hot pink and you will glow. :)2 years, 9 months ago
Many of the colors of the Ruched Cashmere Cardigan, item #26048, coordinate very nicely with the different colors of this dress.2 years, 11 months ago
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The empire waist of the garment is conducive to a flattering fit.2 years, 11 months ago
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I bought this dress in the XS and the bottom was too tight. So, I returned it for a S and the top was too big. It doesn't seem to be well proportioned, so it would depend upon your figure. If you carry weight on the bottom half it might not fit well. It's a very nice dress, just didn't work for me.Age: 45-54
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The dark color is navy.2 years, 10 months ago
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Here are some measurements for the neck depth. Please note that these can vary slightly:Front Neck Depth – to top edge: XS – 5 7/8"; S – 6"; M – 6 1/8; L – 6 ¼"; XL 6 3/8"
Back Neck Depth – to top edge: All sizes – 6"
These measurements are taken from the center point of the neckline, front and back, to the top edge of the garment, front and back.
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about 81/2 inches I wear a 36D, and it is low, yet I am very modest and it is still full coverage. I feel very comfortable wearing this khAge: 45-54
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