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Racist Ethnic Cleansing Movement Paul Joseph Watson/Prison Planet.com | March 29 2006 At the height of last year's French riots, Voz de Aztlan leader Ernesto Cienfuegos stated that similar scenes of chaos would be witnessed on the streets of America. As reports of violence begin to filter through, a deliberately fomented race war hiding behind an immigration debate creeps ever closer. "Today, here in Los Angeles, we are already seeing ominous signs of an impending social explosion that will make the French rebellion by Muslim and immigrant youths seem 'tame' by comparison," said Cienfuegos on November 8. "All the ingredients are present including a hostile and racist police as in France. In fact, we came close to having major riots on three separate occasions just this year alone." As the mainstream controlled media reports the immigration protests as peaceful and affords them a wealth of credence and credibility, ignoring the plethora of foreign flags compared to US flags, turn to Mexican TV news stations and you will encounter radical proselytizing about enacting the brutal plan of the invasion and takeover of the southern and western American states. Aztlan's goal, known as la reconquista, is to cede and take over the entirety of the southern states by any means necessary and impose a Communist militant dictatorship. President Bush's blanket amnesty program goes a long way to helping the extremists achieve their aim. Despite the fact that the majority of documented Hispanics oppose illegal immigration, as do the majority of Americans, Aztlan and La Raca race hate groups have become the self-appointed voice for a separatist movement that threatens a violent overthrow of the Constitutional system and a barbaric program of ethnic cleansing. This is held up by the media as 'diversity' and to vociferously oppose it is scorned as racism. Aztlan and Mecha groups advocate killing all whites and blacks and driving them out of the southern states by means of brutal ethnic cleansing. Flags and placards carried at marches depict white people having their heads cut off, as seen in the picture below. Those that protest such groups are then attacked by the establishment media and labeled as racists, despite the fact that the Plan of San Diego, a rallying cry for the Hispanic Klan groups, advocates total eradication of any race but Hispanics. Mecha's own slogan reads, "For the race everything. For those outside the race, nothing." TV stations owned by rich white industrialists erect giant billboards in Los Angeles claiming the city belongs to Mexico, as seen below. Mainstream Hispanics who love America abhor the virulent racism that the Mexican Klan groups embrace. And who bankrolls these pocket radicals? Billionaire tax-exempt foundations and NGO's owned by white men. Organizations like the Ford Foundation, groups who are zealous in their quest to eliminate the middle class and destroy America, turning it into a cashless society, compact city, surveillance control grid where only two tiers of society exist - the elite and the poor slaves. The Atzlan website today carries the following comments. "If the racist "Sensenbrenner Legislation" passes the US Senate, there is no doubt that a massive civil disobedience movement will emerge. Eventually labor union power can merge with the immigrant civil rights and "Immigrant Sanctuary" movements to enable us to either form a new political party or to do heavy duty reforming of the existing Democratic Party. The next and final steps would follow and that is to elect our own governors of all the states within Aztlan." Here is the open call for violent separatism and the overthrow of existing state government structures. A sizeable proportion of the secular humanist Westerners who like to think of themselves as part of the establishment, when in reality they are unwitting tools of the true elite, have bought into the cuddly utopian philosophy that the West is a global village which welcomes all comers and has the enlightened innate ability to homogenize millions of different people of all different colors and creeds into one giant melting pot. The reality couldn't be further from the truth and last year's images of flaming buses, schools, nurseries, terror and panic in France betray that fact. Protests over changes in employment laws have flared into riots and we are now witnessing similar scenes on the streets of Paris as we saw last November. The real power behind the clash of civilizations lies with Globalists, in whose interest it is to foment race wars. Their vision of the Western world can best be described as a corporate fascist high tech slave plantation, with all the proles packed into high rise compact cities. The middle class simply won't exist. Every major minority movement throughout history has been infiltrated and steered by the elite in an attempt to obtain these objectives. The elite want us to be at each others throats while they dominate over the downtrodden and befuddled warring tribes. Race is the ultimate touchstone hot button issue and the Globalists have enacted policies of rampant uncontrolled immigration in order to force hostile cultures to intermingle. The outcome is always tribal warfare, as we saw in Bosnia and Kosovo. The Mexican Klan must be opposed at every turn if we are to prevent America being fed to the dogs of racial purity and ethnic cleansing, an ideology that was supposedly defeated in 1940's Germany but is openly called for today while the groups carrying it out are protected and funded by the establishment. __________________________ U.S.-Mexico Pact Revealed: Billions to Non-citizens Bush's 'Fence Bill' Doesn't Actually Create Fence Fox praises Mexican immigrants Texas Sheriffs: Terrorists Entering U.S. from Mexico Tijuana police force ordered to turn in guns Students kicked off school bus in St. Paul For Speaking English The War On Terror Does Not Apply To Mexico - May 20/08 Congressmen Highlight Mexican Commando Incursions Into U.S. - May 15/08
McCain has appointed Juan Hernandez as his 'Hispanic outreach
Mexico to use biochip to control illegal immigration - Dec 28/2007 Rep. Pelosi criticizes border fence The White House has declared that it has no information on any ongoing judicial processes concerning hundreds of kidnappings and murders of American citizens by Mexican drug cartels and gangs between 2005 and 2007 Seattle Pigs assault fellow citizens protesting illegal immigration.
A driver chooses to voice his disagreement with the thousands of mainly illegal immigrants marching to demand amnesty for criminals who have already broken the law by unlawfully entering the U.S. without permission.
He opens his sunroof and sticks his middle finger up at the throngs of demonstrators, countering their free speech with the right to his own under the first amendment. Almost immediately, police arrive, drag the driver out of his car and wrestle him down the pavement - blood begins to pour from his face. The immigrants cheer, taunt and laugh as the police manhandle the protester. One of the pro-illegal demonstrators uses the spectacle to stick his placard in front of the cameras, lauding how the "American Dream" should be available to illegal immigrants, while thug cops slap handcuffs on the protester. "Now you bleeding, you're bleeding punk," screams one pro-illegal. "What's it like now bitch," yells another. Police grabbing someone from their own car, wrestling them to the floor and smashing their face into the concrete for protesting is all acceptable and encouraged by the pro-illegals. As Recruitment Numbers Fall, U.S. Army Looking Toward Illegals - June 21/2007 ______________________________________ Bank of America chose this logo because it represents both the 33 degrees of Freemasonry... and "novice mortar square". Note 3X11. Now they are helping to support the tens of millions of illegal immigrants as part of their plan to break up and weaken America BofA aims new credit card at illegal immigrants: report NEW YORK (Reuters) - Bank of America Corp. has begun offering credit cards to customers without Social Security numbers, typically illegal immigrants, the Wall Street Journal reported on Tuesday. In recent years, banks across the country have been offering checking accounts and even mortgages to the nation's fast-growing ranks of undocumented immigrants, most of whom are Hispanic, the paper said, adding these immigrants generally have not been able to get major credit cards. The new Bank of America card is open to people who lack both a Social Security number and a credit history, as long as they have held a checking account with the bank for three months without an overdraft, the Journal said. Bank of America tested the program last year at five branches in Los Angeles, and last week expanded it to 51 branches in Los Angeles County, home to the largest concentration of illegal immigrants in the U.S., the Journal said. The bank hopes to roll out the program nationally later this year, the paper said. A Bank of America spokesman was not immediately available to comment. Nor were they available much later, as this video shows... Uncovering the Conspiracy: Bank of America American Patrol Report - Wednesday, February 14, 2007 Dobbs: We want you to know that we invited the CEO of the Bank of America, Kenneth Lewis....I wanted to tell him the statement saying the bank isn't marketing to illegal aliens is fundamentally, absolutely and unequivocally a lie, and that perhaps he would like to talk to the people representing the bank who uttered such lies. Bank Boycott Coalition Releases List of Illegal Alien Banks Arsonist Illegals "Burning Out" US Border Security Agents - June 19/2007 ______________________________________________ Marchers say gringos, not illegals, have to go. Activists turn tables, offer no amnesty for 'non-indigenous' on 'our continent' - March 29, 2006 WASHINGTON - While debates about guest-worker programs for illegal aliens take place in the corridors of power, in the streets of America's big cities no amnesty is being offered by activists calling for the expulsion of most U.S. citizens from their own country. While politicians debate the fate of some 12 million people residing in the U.S. illegally, the Mexica Movement, one of the organizers of the mass protest in Los Angeles this week, has already decided it is the "non-indigenous," white, English-speaking U.S. citizens of European descent who have to leave what they call "our continent." The pictures and captions tell the story. a.. "This is our continent, not yours!" exclaimed one banner. b.. "We are indigenous! The only owners of this continent!" said another. c.. "If you think I'm illegal because I'm a Mexican, learn the true history, because I'm in my homeland," read another sign. "One of the more negative parts of the march was when American flags were passed out to make sure the marchers were looked on as part of 'America,'" said the group's commentary on the L.A. rally. Both Rep. James Sensebrenner, R-Wis., chairman of the House Judiciary Committee and a proponent of tougher border security, and California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger were caricatured as Nazis by the group on its posters and banners. The group insists the indigenous people of the continent were the victims of genocide - a campaign of extermination that killed, according to one citation, 95 percent of their population, or 33 million people. Another citation on the same website claims the toll was 70 million to 100 million. The only solution, says the Mexica Movement, is to expel the invaders of the last 500 years, force them to pay reparations and return the continent to its rightful heirs. The platform of the group illustrates the diverse - and sometimes extreme - agendas of those participating in the mass mobilizations that have been seen largely as protests against efforts to curb illegal immigration. Some of those involved, including the Mexica Movement, have much bigger goals than stopping a piece of legislation before Congress. The Mexican Movement has big issues with many other equally radical groups participating in the massive, united-front rallies. The group makes a point of distinguishing its goals and objectives from others, such as the separatist Aztlan Movement. Aztlan, the mythical birthplace of the Aztecs, is regarded in Chicano folklore as an area that includes California, Arizona, Nevada, New Mexico and parts of Colorado and Texas. The movement seeks to create a sovereign, Spanish-speaking state, "Republica del Norte," or the Republic of the North, that would combine the American Southwest with the northern Mexican states and eventually merge with Mexico. A group called "La Voz de Aztlan," the Voice of Aztlan, identifies Mexicans in the U.S. as "America's Palestinians." Many Mexicans see themselves as part of a transnational ethnic group known as "La Raza," the race. A May editorial on the website, with a dateline of Los Angeles, Alta California, declares that "both La Raza and the Palestinians have been displaced by invaders that have utilized military means to conquer and occupy our territories." Others in the coalition hope to see a "reconquest" of the American southwest by Mexico. This would not likely take place through military action, they say, but rather through a slow process of migration - both legal and illegal. Invasion by Invitation Frosty Wooldridge | March 30 2006 After the massive demonstrations in Las Angeles, Denver, Chicago and other cities last weekend, "Houston! We've got a problem, a big problem." Hundreds of thousands of illegal aliens marched in the streets of American demanding their 'rights'. That's like a band of bank robbers demanding not to be arrested and allowed to keep robbing more banks by bringing in their buddies to help them. What you're seeing is a complete breakdown of the rule of law in America. What you're witnessing is the colonization of America by another country. Further, you're watching your own President Bush and Congress aid, abet and assist this assault on the United States. Did you notice hundreds of thousands of illegals waving the Mexican flag in America's streets while trampling Old Glory? Instead of standing up for the U.S. Constitution, the Senate Judiciary Committee passed an amnesty program that facilitates this invasion by invitation. On KSTE 650 radio in Sacramento, California the hosts, Armstrong and Getty received a call from Julio an illegal alien, "My family came here before he was born. We Mexicans come here to take our land back. We were here first. We will use your system to vote you out. We come to fight. It is our land, not yours. We are taking it back." La Voz de Aztlan, March 27, 2006 wrote, "What does the immense success of "La Gran Marcha" mean to Mexicanos and other Latinos? It simply means that we now have the numbers, the political will and the organizational skills to direct our own destinies and not be subservient to the White and Jewish power structures. It means that we can now undertake bigger and more significant mass actions to achieve total political and economic liberation like that being proposed by Juan José Gutiérrez, President of Movimiento Latino USA. Juan José Gutiérrez is proposing that the coalition that organized "La Gran Marcha" meet in Arizona or Texas on April 8 to "organize a mass boycott against the economy of the USA" on May 15." Do these illegal immigrants sound like they are assimilating into the American way of life with an allegiance to the U.S. Constitution? Would you want them for your neighbor? Terry Anderson, black radio talk show host living in Los Angeles said, "LA has become a Mexican city…I don't advocate violence but I predict anarchy." In Las Vegas an American said, "Three Home Depot management employees came out to talk to us. They quietly told us they had been "having problems with the loitering illegal Mexicans - they jumped up and down on the customer's parked cars. They had fights but Home Depot doesn't want us to say anything about these same problems! "This Mexican male with heavy, silver jewelry hanging on his neck said to our group mostly composed of seniors, "I won't have to worry -- you people won't be around in a few years...we're taking over your country anyway!" Representative Russell Pearce of Arizona said, "Illegal aliens cost taxpayers $69 billion annually (just in social services) in federal programs in 2002. Studies estimate that amnesty would increase that three fold. Perhaps as high as 80 percent of the violent crime in Phoenix area involves illegal aliens (according to Phoenix Chief Hurt and Mesa police violent crimes response team). Over 4000 homicide warrants issued by the Border States to suspects who are believed to have fled south of the border into Mexico. 1. $311 Billion in uncollected taxes (Barron's study). 2. $200 Billion annually in-lost American wages. Native-born American men lost an average of $1700 in wages in 2000 due to US immigration policy (Harvard University). 3. Maricopa County Hospital loses over $2 million weekly on uncompensated care (largely do to illegal aliens) (2003, 77 border hospitals filed for bankruptcy). 4. One-third of our federal prisons are illegal aliens, over 5000 illegal aliens in our State Prison. 5. Arizona spends over $800 million to over $1 billion (K –12) annually to educate illegals. 6. Over half of AHCCCS births are from illegal mothers one-third of children in Arizona have immigrant parents. Robert Tecau said, "I am compelled to contact you regarding the ongoing invasion, occupation and colonization of the United States of America, by hostile enemies from Mexico and points south...an invasion that is being facilitated, aided, abetted by many U.S. politicians. "Since when does a mob of hostile, foreign criminals, in this country illegally, have any say whatsoever in how our nation is to be governed, much less demand that they be extended the same rights and privileges as legitimate, law-abiding, U.S. citizens? "And once you have answered the above, how about answering these questions as well: Q#2: Why are we allowing millions of diseased, non-assimilating, poverty-stricken revolutionaries and agitators and criminals, who despise us with a passion and who clearly have every intent of destroying our Republican form of government, into this country? What madness is this? Q#3: Why weren't ICE officers present at the anti-Sensenbrenner bill rallies and demonstrations...and if ICE agents were present, why wasn't the opportunity immediately seized upon to arrest and deport hundreds of thousands of these illegal aliens in one fell swoop? Q#4: Why is federal action not being taken against craven, treasonous, anti-American politicians for their blatant Fifth-Column activities, which frequently include making angry demands for ignoring the rule of law and the overthrow of our nation? "Is it not yet obvious that we have reached critical mass with this terrible situation? What's it going to take, another bloody Civil War, culminating in the deaths of countless Americans, before our federal government finally comes to a realization as to just how far down this dangerous rabbit hole they have taken us?" Another reader responded, "Hold on to your seatbelts; it's going to be a terrible ride here in America from now on. America is now another third world nation. It just hasn't caught up with us yet. You better start learning the Mexican language as they are not going to learn ours. They now have many more rights than the citizens. Thanks to George W. Bush and all of the stupid GOP that's in right now. Aren't you very proud of all the stupid do nothing politicians, you kept voting back in? Well America deserves this now!!! It's really what you voted for. Enjoy it; there is more on the way!!! "Our stupid, stupid politicians passed a bill during the night that will give all illegals more rights than the citizens who voted for them and will "reward" all the illegal aliens already here for breaking our immigration laws so more and more can come in and the ones already here are going to be "rewarded" for all of their illegal efforts. Our country has essentially been taken over now, from this invasion of illegals into OUR country, better say that loud because it's not ours anymore. We have "given away the till", without a shot being fired. They brought our once great country down from now and forever. "I'll tell you American citizens, you should have taken you head out of the sand. But no citizens did anything and the politicians did nothing for the citizens also. So this is what we have now and forever. You simply don't know how rough it will be on all of us in America from now on!!! Jobs now will be scarce, and what jobs there will be, will pay almost nothing. America will now be a cesspool of humanity. It will soon be Canada, USA, and Mexico as one nation. America does not have sovereignty anymore. March 28, 2006 a terrible, sad day here in America!!! Better get used to it now! It's only going to get worse from here on out!" Ladies and gentlemen of America, George W. Bush and Congress are guilty of treason against the U.S. Constitution and citizens of the United States of America. So help us God! Mexican University Professor Calls For Murder Of All Whites
worst, we have got to kill him." Devvy / NewsWithViews.com | April 2 2006 The words above were spoken by Jose Angel Gutierrez, professor, University of Texas, Arlington and founder of the La Raza Unida political party. His full comment was: "We have an aging white America ... They are dying ...We have got to eliminate the gringo, and what I mean by that is if the worst comes to the worst, we have got to kill him." In a column dated March 25, 2006, by Ernesto Cienguegos titled "La Gran Marcha" surpasses all expectations," Cienguegos wrote: "What does the immense success of "La Gran Marcha" mean to Mexicanos and other Latinos? It simply means that we now have the numbers, the political will and the organizational skills to direct our own destinies and not be subservient to the White and Jewish power structures. It means that we can now undertake bigger and more significant mass actions to achieve total political and economic liberation like that being proposed by Juan José Gutiérrez, President of Movimiento Latino USA. Juan José Gutiérrez is proposing that the coalition that organized "La Gran Marcha" meet in Arizona or Texas on April 8 to "organize a mass boycott (huelga) against the economy of the USA" to take place on May 5 or 19." As Professor Gutierrez is proposing killing gringos, the message from Cienguegos becomes crystal clear. Make no mistake about it and I said it in my last column: millions of illegals are blatantly shoving their lawlessness right in our faces with the backing of cowardly politicians at all levels. The talk all week on cable and radio has been about the November elections and how the Republicans can't afford to alienate the Latino vote. Not about the law, not about the massive destruction to our country from this invasion, just protect their political butts at all costs. Yellow bellied cowards. Every American and legal alien should watch a few of these videos to see exactly what the "Mexica Movement" is all about and exactly how serious these invaders are; see here and here. As expected, I received more mail from the whiners and illegals: "Hello, look im an american born and raised in USA and im happy to be white but what i do have to say to u is why r u so rude. I have been married to a hispanic for more than 9 years and i have three very smart and cute sons and i think what the hispanics are doing is right and they should have the right to work." Sorry, lady, but this isn't about your martial situation or race, it's about the law. Certainly humans in every country on the globe have the absolute right to work, but illegals have NO constitutional rights in America. They do not have the "right" to work when they have committed a criminal act to get into our country - regardless of the country of origin. And, this one from Ricardo: "hey man, yup u guess rigth is a MEXICAN who dont know how to spell, but i wont need it becouse im sure u know what i wanna tell u, thats why i just wanted to tell u somethin alse, that u r a very ignorant person that doesnt know what is it to be poor... think about it. PEACE!!!" There are millions of poor Americans in this country, but they don't break the law. This isn't about being rich or poor, it's about violating federal immigration law. On March 29, 2006, I did a radio show out of Oregon. Some hysterical hen called in and accused me of being a racist, practically another Adolph Hitler and the rest of the drivel being pumped to get away from the real issue: Regardless of country of origin, if you smuggle yourself into this country, you are in violation of the law and must be deported. Many don't realize that there are several million illegals from countries like Ireland, Commie China and Russia. It's not about a person's race or religion, it's about the law. Also as I predicted, there will be more and more violence. This is an e-mail I received March 27, 2006: "You are right on! My son was attacked by about 200 out of control Mexican Youths this afternoon in Anaheim, California while sitting at a signal light. They threw plastic bottles of water and kicked in the door of his pickup truck. He did nothing to provoke the attack and they were shouting "we're Mexicans and proud of it among other things including calling him a f****ng Gringo. "Fearing for his safety he called the Police on his cell phone and they apparently were already enroute as the Swat Team arrived with riot gear and guns drawn. He pointed out the two he thought kicked in his door and the cops handcuffed them for a few minutes and them let them go! Go figure! Three Freeways were shut down this afternoon around Orange and L.A. County as the demonstrators got on the freeway and stopped traffic for a time until the CHP herded them away. So the answer is no, this state nor any of the others are prepared for what is yet to come. An avid reader of your columns." (Name withheld) Palm Springs, Calif. On March 25, 2006, members of the Indiana Federation for Immigration Reform and Enforcement and the Chicago Minuteman Project were attacked outside the Bank Calumet in Munster. Federation and Minuteman members were protesting the bank offering home loans to illegal aliens. These banks are knowingly and aggressively violating federal law while Bush's Department of Justice turns a blind eye. Think this isn't coming to cities and towns all across America? Think again. "Illegals will do work Americans won't." Pure propaganda as this American points out in her e-mail to me dated March 27, 2006: "45 years ago we white's were doing the jobs that no American would do. We were picking olives in California. We asked for $1.00 per box, instead of .90. They fired every one of us and brought in 20,000 Mexicans from across the border. We knew then it was the beginning of the end. We picked oranges in Redlands Calif. They brought in illegals and paid them .10 more per box than they gave us white's that wouldn't do the work that Mexicans would. Claiming they worked harder. We were locked out of Senator Sid Morrison's orchard as he told us he could get illegals for $3.00 per bin to pick his apples and had to pay us $5.00." And from Don: "Devvy: When I hear the politicians repeat the outrageous lie that illegal aliens are only taking jobs Americans don't want, I would like to strangle them. For the past year, my parents have been hiring unemployed Americans from the so-called "lower rungs" of the economic ladder to do work around the house. They are unemployed because they have been pushed out of the job market by illegal aliens. An employer can hire two or three illegals for the price of one American, so why hire Americans? "Another outrageous lie is used by politicians for maintaining the H-1B visa program. They claim that there are not enough Americans available to work in the high-tech industry so they have to import workers from India. If this is the case, then why was I, a senior software engineer, laid off from my job in 2004 and replaced with Indians? Why are so many other Americans I know in the software business unemployed?" It's not that American workers won't do the jobs, it's that un-American companies want the job done for poverty wages to increase their bottom line. Dump on Americans, hire illegals. More money and who cares who gets hurt along the way? Well, you won't get my money because I know who you are. I refuse to buy foreign and I refuse to buy anything from companies that hire illegals. Your products can sit on the shelf and rot for all I care. Illegals smuggling themselves across our borders isn't about jobs, it's about the law. Americans were doing these jobs before the invasion began and they will do them again. Any company that hires illegals has the blood of innocents on their hands. Americans, law enforcement and border patrol have been slaughtered by these illegals smuggling themselves into the U.S. for "cheap" labor for employers who have no regard for the law. Vicious drug smugglers who don't care who they shoot are entering this country at will. Those employers who seek this "cheap" labor have done so without regard to the collateral damage along the way. They don't care. The bottom line ($$$) is everything. This is rewarding criminals (illegals). If someone breaks into your home, do you turn around and reward them with leaving the door unlocked the next night to have another in a long line break in? No, you hold them accountable. Do the crime, pay the price. The current immigration reform bills in Congress are worthless. It's the same darn broken song that Reagan sang and signed into law in the mid-80s that provided further incentives for illegals to cross our borders. That so-called "immigration reform" act did nothing to stem the invasion, it only made it worse, just like this "new" one. It will give a back door amnesty to these criminals already here sending the message to others that it's okay, go ahead and break America's laws. Their politicians are too cowardly and scared of us to do anything about it. We will march and riot and burn cities to the ground and in the end, we will get our way. Politicians in America only care about votes! As Congressman Tom Tancredo said last week: We do not need this latest legislation, we need to enforce the laws already on the books. I called my Congress critter and Feinstein's offices and told them to vote NO on this legislation. Instead, enforce existing laws. This new "reform" bill will allegedly double border agents by 2011. Hello? The crisis is here now and our border agents are being run to ground with their lives on the line every day. The big question now is will the American people fight or will they simply remain too busy to do anything about it? I know there are millions who are on the front lines, but we need to bury our state capitols in snail mail and demand they reconstitute the state militias. When all hell breaks loose and it will (those two examples above are just the beginning), there isn't enough law enforcement or National Guard to stop the hordes which will include drug runners and terrorists. I urge you to send a snail mail letter today or this weekend to your state representative, state senator, governor and county sheriff. My mail box has been full of requests that I make available copies of my letters to my county sheriff and state legislators on the national ID and un-Patriot Act issues. I'm sure there are others who can write more eloquent letters than I can. But, pease feel free to use these letters as a guideline. If you want, cut and paste mine and just substitute your name, city, state and so forth. Letter on illegal invasion here. Letter on National ID here. Letter on un-Patriot Act here. It's not enough to call talk radio, we have got to flood our lawmakers with hard mail in their faces. If you belong to a group or organization, do one letter with a signature sheet and have everyone in your group, organization or at a meeting sign and send it. That way, the letter gets done by one volunteer, but is signed by 10 or 20 or 50 Americans. Get down to your VFW hall or the local grange this weekend. You retirees - grandma and grandpa: get out of the casinos and get busy. The polls show that a huge majority of Americans are demanding the borders be sealed and the illegals deported. Now we need every single person to conduct this relentless assault on our state houses and Congress. If you don't know who your state rep or state senator is, just do a google search and type in your state and then the words state legislature. We need every able bodied man and woman to call the U.S. Congress and demand NO amnesty, no free pass. We demand all illegals be rounded up and deported, period. We demand that the Department of Justice begin prosecuting all bank CEOs, presidents and bank managers for violating federal law in giving home mortgages to illegals. You can call Congress toll free at: 1.866.340.9281. I also urge you to call their individual offices every day and keep it up. It only takes a few minutes out of your busy day. Bury their offices in phone calls. Make sure your voice is heard. Go to www.house.gov and www.senate.gov to find your representative and their phone numbers. Call them everyday. It's most unfortunate the states of the Union have refused to recognize the non-existent Seventeenth Amendment because if that fraud were exposed, the states would be able to recall vermin like John McCain, Arlen Specter, fire them and appoint U.S. Senators to Congress that would not sell us out on this critical issue because they would represent the interests of the state. Boycott companies that hire illegals. Go to this web site to see companies that knowingly hire illegals. The only language these people understand is money and I urge you to stop funding the destruction of our country. Stop giving your money to employers who are directly responsible for encouraging lawlessness that has killed innocent Americans, not to mention Americans who are victims of violent sexual predators, gang members and drug smugglers. Do not vacation in Mexico, hold corporate conferences or buy their sub standard fruits and vegetables. Use the HUGE power of America's wallets. Support The Minutemen and the other fine organizations that are on the front lines fighting every day. The Minutemen, Americans for Legal Immigration, American Patrol, Frosty Wooldridge's action alert and NumbersUSA (Excellent analysis on the bills). Get the Dr. Edwin Vieira special CD ($2.00) and include a copy with your letter to your county sheriff, state rep, state senator and governor. For a full description of the contents of the CD, click here and scroll to the bottom. These elected public servants are buried during the day, but they can listen to the CD on the way home. After you send it, wait one week and then call their offices and ask if they have listened to it. If they respond no, my advice would be to tell them to go find another job the day after elections. I'm in the face of my elected servants, please do the same. If we don't stop this invasion now and stop
another free pass, the Kiss of Death will be upon this republic. It is the
intention of militant organizations and their millions of illegals from Mexico
to take over the four border states with violence if necessary and their
cannon fodder is already here. You see how well organized the illegals are?
They will continue to grow in numbers. Will Americans do the same to save our
beloved republic and protect our families and property? U.S. tipping Mexico to Minuteman patrols Sara A. Carter, Ontario Daily Bulletin | May 10 2006 While Minuteman civilian patrols are keeping an eye out for illegal border crossers, the U.S. Border Patrol is keeping an eye out for Minutemen -- and telling the Mexican government where they are. Hillary Clinton Is On The Wrong Side Of History Chuck Baldwin | April 1 2006 [< Link] Gangs and police still fighting for control of drug trade in Mexico. Muhammad is No 2 in boy's names [UK Times] - June 6, 2007 Please help us spread the truth, with a donation of your choosing... Click 'make a donation' button below. We depend on donations to maintain this website. Thank You!!! |


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Discussing: A question of breeding
A question of breeding
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01 Apr 06 6:03 AM
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I love Peter Jackson's movies, but there is no doubt they've - heh - "muddied" the waters with regard to how Orcs reproduce. Which isn't to say that it isn't possible that Saruman's breeding program entailed popping some of his Uruk-hai out of the mud for whatever strange wizardly reason. But I don't think that's what Tolkien envisioned for those regular snaga Orcs that we so know and love.
Agree? Vehemently disagree? Or qualify?
Also, AFriedman was commenting on AnnaWing's well-argued and provocative "On the Origins and Natures of Orcs," and referred to a quote from "Morgoth's Ring":
The quote from Morgoth's Ring, Myths transformed 419 says "There is no doubt [not "maybe"] that Saruman committed...the interbreeding of orcs and men, producing both Men-orcs large and cunning, and Orc-men treacherous and vile."
At which point Gwynnyd responded,
Why do I have this vision of orc breeding that looks like how you get mules and hinnies?
Mule: The hybrid animal produced when a male ass (Jack) is crossed with a female horse, and often looks more donkey-like than horse- like
Hinny: This is the term used for the hybrid animal produced when the female ass (jennet) is mated to the male horse (stallion) to produce a foal, and often looks more horse-like
Male orc to female human get an Orc-man.
Female orc to male human gets a Man-orc.
or would that be vice versa?
I'd guess that there are a lot more Orc-men than Man-orcs. Of course, they say that some men are always willing... and all women are the same lying down.
This perked my interest because I had a similar discussion with my father once about the Orc-men and Men-orcs, and the comparison of mules and hinnies. Of course the follow-up to that is usually that mules and hinnies are sterile...so would the Uruk-hai be firing blanks?
Big sprawling opening post on the question of Orkish breeding.
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Tolkien did say in a letter that Orcs reproduced sexually (rather than asexually, by parthenogenesis or other methods ). But sexual reproduction covers a lot of possibilities. If I were an evil and paranoid deity who wanted to conquer the universe and was looking to create vast numbers of minions on the cheap, how would I do it?
1 Accelerated growth rates, so that they reach physical maturity and sexual maturity together and as quickly as possible. Say, by 5 or 6. Average life-span maybe 20-30 years.
2 Ability to produce multiple offspring at each birth ie litters, and multiple litters per year. If the offspring are all animated by My will, they should not need much in the way of care, training and socialisation, so the females could have multiple litters per year. The weaklings will be weeded out automatically and gastronomically recycled.
3 Omnivorous with no social taboos about cannibalism, so they could eat each other when they die of old age, illness or violence, or if they are born deformed or dead. This would reduce the resources needed to feed them.
4 Physically tough, with efficient immune systems (NB, get that from Elves), and varying in size, conformation and intelligence level, so that they can be used for different tasks (get that from Men, nice adaptable creatures). I'd also look for useful traits to splice in from the animal kingdom - night vision? superior hearing and sense of smell? claws and fangs? echolocation ?(OK, there's no evidence in text, but multiple Ages is a long time, and there could have been) I'd probably want to keep a few lines breeding true for specialised purposes, and have the rest general-purpose and interbreeding freely, to allow possibly useful mutations to show up. Useless ones would be recycled.
5 Since I would be immortal and have Ages in which to tinker, I would probably vary the basic pattern a lot, depending on which would be most useful at any particular time. For instance, sexual dimorphism or not? What kind of social structure? I would be limited by the lack of imagination that comes with evilness, so all of them would probably end up being highly aggressive in occasionally self-defeating ways. However, I would assume that sheer numbers would render this problem trivial, and I would usually be right.
6 Unfortunately my lab notes would all be lost during the War of Wrath, so my unworthy successor and usurper, that jumped-up minion Sauron would have to rediscover most of the above in his own bumbling and incompetent fashion, as would the even more unworthy and pathetic wannabe Saruman.
There, those are my preliminary suggestions. What do you think?
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There, those are my preliminary suggestions. What do you think?
I love your suggestions and I think they may all have been tried by one dark force or another.
One point I've wondered about is the conjunction of 'evil growing' and 'orcs multiplying', which always seem to go together. Is this a cause and effect relationship? Do orcs not multiply when evil is quiescent? And if not, why not?
My personal idea is that orcs are self-absorbed to to the point where it impacts species survival. They spend too much time competing for individual dominance to construct a viable society in the long-term. Although individual orcs may be powerful and wield an army, such as the "Great Goblin"of the Hobbit or "Azog" who gave the dwarves so much trouble in Moria, those leaders also had their heyday at times when 'evil was stirring' and may have had outside assistance in forging such orc-ish alliances.
The orc society we see most closely are Saruman's Uruks and the orcs of Minas Morgul and Mordor that Frodo encounters. Both groups seem hierarchically organized by fear, and cooperation only seems possible when fear induced, and the lower-eschelons take every opportunity to attack the leaders.
In my opinion, in a 'natural' state orcs have a hard time cooperating, even for things basic to survival, such as food production, or successful rearing of children. Without some outside influence that forces cooperation, orcs would tend to self-destruct and die out within, say, an Age. However, when 'evil is strong', it can superimpose its will on orc-minds and get them working together for its own purposes. Therefore, during times when 'evil is active', more orc-children survive to adulthood and orc-society is more organized and able to conduct raids into man- or elf- dominated territory.
Gwynnyd (thinking oddly slanted, sixty-seven degress off normal, as usual)
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That sounds very plausible. I was thinking along those lines myself. Orcish societies would collapse in the absence of an immediate master force holding them together and would survive only because their high birthrate and quick maturity would just about outweigh the internecine aggression, until another force arises to point them all in one direction again. It would be entirely canonical too, since Tolkien makes several references to Orcs scattering leaderless when their masters fall.
It's a real pity that asexual reproduction has to be ruled out, though. One could have cloned orcs being hatched from eggs like ants, and as Henry Gee suggested, the Great Goblin in "The Hobbit" would have been a Queen, not a King (from Tolkien's descriptions there's no way that one could tell, short of dissection), which I find a rather charming idea.

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Saint Phêrô Truong Van Thi
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- 21 December
- 24 November as one of the Martyrs of Vietnam
Priest in the apostolic vicariate of West Tonkin. He worked in the missions with the priests of the Foreign Mission Society of Paris. Imprisoned and repeatedly tortured in the persecutions of Minh-Meng. Died with Saint Andrew Dung Lac. One of the Martyrs of Vietnam.
- beheaded on 21 December 1839 in Ô Cau Giay, Hanoi, Vietnam
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coffee + cre8tive {sept 27 '06}
Happiness is… A big German cookie! This is a mandelhoernchen, an afternoon snack that we enjoyed yesterday while strolling around. I keep telling myself that I'll only eat like this for a few more days, then it's back to salads and grilled chicken and fish again… There is no way I can eat like this for two months straight. We're purposely not renting a car for this reason, so we can walk and eat. :)
A woman who lives directly across from us, she is also on the 4th floor, has a fitness studio in her flat. Each day, I see her stretching, drinking tea, and leading group classes in her gigantic flat. It looks like they are doing pilates. Hmmm. Maybe I should go over there take a class with her. It certainly would help curtail my chances of growing out of my clothes while I'm here. :)
Back to happier thoughts… Like eating mandelhoernchen.
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Your comments...
Anna commented
September 27th, 2006 at 9:24amHi Holly,
not that i want to interfere with your walk&eat plan. But i think bake&eat is a sure alternative….you need:
200 g Marzipan
50 g Flour
1 Eggwhite
100 g Almonds, sliced
100 g Sugar
100 g Chocolate coating (milk or dark)
2 TS Vanille SugarBlend the marzipan with the eggwhite. Add sugar, flour and vanille sugar. For best results use a icing bag and put the dough in it. Make sure, you have a nozzle with a hole. Squeeze 10 H?rnchen on a baking parchment and sprinkle them with the almonds.
Baking time: about 15 Min.
Temp: 175? C backen.
Let them cool and dip the H?rnchens in chocolate.Mahlzeit!
Perfectly with Coffee.Cheers, Anna
Jany commented
September 27th, 2006 at 12:28pmHi Holly,
this is not fair…i love Mandelhoernchen, they are among the things i miss most from Germany ( being native from Hamburg).
It's nice to read you in "european time" (what' s the english word for "Zeitverschiebung "??.
Being originally from Hamburg i wanted to mail some nice adresses up there, as it is not too far from Hannover, a weekend would definitively be worth it. I'll mail them to you by the end of this week.
Have a nice day, schoenen Tag !Jany