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At the last Harrison County Beef Cattle Association meeting, one of the members suggested we have a meeting to discuss the merits of Kill Vaccines vs. Modified Live Vaccines. This has been discussed in meetings, at the farm supply stores, and even between one farmer to another.
For centuries garlic has been enjoyed for its culinary, medicinal and spiritual qualities, including fending off evil spirits and vampires and acting as an anti-bacterial. There was evidence of garlic in King Tut's tomb when it was discovered so obviously the ancient Egyptians were growing it as far back as 2100 B.C. That's some serious culinary history. There are two categories of garlic to consider: Allium sativum, or softneck garlic and Allium ophioscordon, or hardneck garlic.
Ishmael Smith, Cynthiana, ranked as ninth largest in registering the most Angus beef cattle in Kentucky having recorded 99 head of Angus with the American Angus Association® during fiscal year 2011, which ended Sept. 30, according to Bryce Schumann, CEO of the American Angus Association.
Double Diamond Farm, Cynthiana, has entered eight head of Gelbvieh in the Beef division of the 38th annual North American International Livestock Exposition (NAILE). NAILE is recognized as the world's largest purebred livestock show. Scheduled for Nov. 5-18, the event takes place at the Kentucky Exposition Center, Louisville.
4-H Club Organization and Project Enrollment in Progress We are meeting with all 4th and 5th graders and middle school students to give them an opportunity to enroll in 4-H for the upcoming year. In addition all high school students grades 9-12, St. Edwards Club and home school students are eligible to participate in 4-H. Enrollment packets are also available at the Harrison County Extension office. The enrollment forms should be returned as soon as possible to school offices or the Harrison County Extension Office so we can make project member lists and club lists.
Yazell Farms, Cynthiana, Kentucky, is a new member of the American Angus Association®, reports Bryce Schumann, CEO of the national breed organization headquartered in Saint Joseph, Mo. The American Angus Association, with nearly 30,000 active adult and junior members, is the largest beef breed association in the world. Its computerized records include detailed information on nearly 19 million registered Angus.
When we woke up Sunday morning and temperatures were in the low to mid 30's, it became evident that the seasons were changing. Pastures are important to our livestock operations and there are precautions we need to think about when we have these seasonal changes.
4-H Club Organization and Project enrollment in progress We are meeting with all 4th and 5th graders and middle school students to give them an opportunity to enroll in 4-H for the upcoming year. In addition all high school students grades 9-12, St. Edwards Club and home school students are eligible to participate in 4-H. 4-H has a lot to offer the youth of Harrison County. The goals of 4-H include citizenship development, leadership development and learning how to do many things through 4-H projects and activities.
As the vegetable garden winds to an end, I turn my harvest chores to the figs, persimmons and Chinese chestnuts. Our nut grove is now a sheep pasture, which is prefect for them because they have pasture and shade from all sorts of nut trees. As it turns out, it looks like my ewes and I share a favorite in the Chinese chestnut. After they eat their daily grain ration they snack on chestnuts that have fallen to the ground. I first learned to enjoy roasted chestnuts when I lived in France as a college exchange student.
The Harrison County Young Farmers annual fall picnic will be held Sunday, Oct. 2 at the FFA farm off Old Lair Road.Everyone is welcome, just bring a dish to share (meat provided). To become a member of the Harrison County Young Farmers contact Randy Wade at 234-4803 or join us Sunday at the FFA farm.


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First State Bank of the Florida Keys Vice President/Corporate Services and Business Development Manager Diane Gibson celebrates her fifteenth anniversary with the Bank.
Gibson first joined the Bank in 1997 as a Branch Manager at the Bank's Big Pine Office, transferred to the Boulevard Office in 1998, was promoted to Vice President in 2004, and promoted to her current role in 2008.
Gibson's numerous civic and community services include involvement with local organizations such as; Key West Chamber of Commerce, Crime Stoppers of the Florida Keys, The Rotary Club of Key West, Key West Association of Realtors, Key West Business Guild and the Lower Keys Heart Council. She is also a graduate of Leadership Monroe County, the Key West Police Ambassador Society and a recipient of both the Athena and Billy Appelrouth Awards.
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The program opened with a general welcome from Assistant Dean for Business and Administration Verne Smith, who then turned the program over to Student Animal Legal Defense Fund president Danielle DiPillo, who introduced Hetti Brown, the Delaware state director for the Humane Society of the United States. Brown presented Sen. Blevins and Rep. Jacques with their awards, and then the legislators joined Brown and DiPillo for a brief panel discussion on the development and passage of animal protection laws.
"Once I got involved in working on a policy issue involving animals, I found it the most rewarding thing I had ever done," said Senator Blevins as she discussed how she developed an interest in animal advocacy. She also praised the people she meet while working on animal advocacy issues as passionate and wonderful people and concluded by saying, "You know that you're advocating for creatures that can't advocate for themselves."
The lawmakers also discussed where ideas for animal protection legislation come from, what happens with failed legislation, and laws related to specific dog breeds, particularly pit bulls. The lawmakers also discussed the state's Animal Welfare Task Force, which Dean Smith serves on, and the important role that the public plays in determining legislative agendas.
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Pizza is taking off in India literally. NBC News reports Francesco's Pizzeria in South Mumbai has managed to use a "remote-controlled, GPS enabled four-rotor" drone to deliver pizza to a friend of the restaurant's CEO. The first successful flight occurred on May 11 and took just 10 minutes, a trip that normally takes their motorcycle delivery service 30 minutes.
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I have no desire to add to the uses to which pundits, most of them mendacious, have put poor Haiti in the last few days, but I do think it is worth pointing out a simple fact—namely, that buildings failed, and failed spectacularly. They failed by the thousands, and it does not seem to have mattered if they were shacks or palaces. As several of those pundits have pointed out, an earthquake of similar proportions (though degrees matter an immense amount in these disasters) caused only a handful of collapses and relatively few deaths when it occurred in San Francisco in 1989 and in Los Angeles in 1993.
In other words: codes work. It is absolutely possible to create structures that are better able to withstand earthquakes, hurricanes, and other natural disasters. What is also a fact is that this requires an investment in buildings that Haiti and many other poor countries are not able to make. If we are going to help build a better world in such places, we will literally have to do so, and architects will have to be part of that process. We must devise smarter and safer buildings. We will, however, have to be willing to simply invest resources in making any improvement possible. That is something we as a society have been unwilling to do. So, what can architects do beyond such essential aid?
Beyond the buildings, the larger architecture of Port-au-Prince also failed, and is still doing so as I write. A good and safe city is not just a collection of structures, but also of infrastructures. Some of those foundations of urbanity are tangible, such as sewers and transportation, while others, such as working firefighting and police forces, are less so. Yet all are necessary. One of the things architects can do beyond offer technical expertise (which is as much the province of engineers) is to offer their ability to synthesize an understanding of what it means to dwell communally, and to offer visions of how we can use history to build a better future. Architects know what worked and didn't work, from Lisbon to China, they can think spatially and they can think structurally. They need to do so now.
Perhaps the age of the visionary architect is over, but we are in dire need of clear visual and analytical models that can stand against the dead-end urban policies that pervade most urban developments. Haiti makes the case, but so did New Orleans. There, architects provided some visions of what could make that city make more sense, but none of it came to anything. I am afraid that we will live to see another disaster there, just as we might well see one in Haiti.
I have lived through earthquakes. They are as close as I have come to experiencing unfathomable terror. Yet I was safe within the structure of my dwelling, my city, and my society. It is a safety I wish on everybody, and that I believe we can only provide if we invest and plan, do and think about how to make better places to live.
Sorry. As I wrote earlier, Architecture is still too concerned with BIG ideas. As someone else has written - actually many many others in this and other venues - Haiti is a desperately poor country. It doesn't need construction systems and codes which it can't afford, it needs a way to get water, cooking fuel, and sanitation to its people NOW. Maybe we should be thinking about how to organize the physical environment around that now, and how neighborhood, towns, and cities can grow from it later.
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I guess it could be said that in a perfect world thing could be done perfectly. But the simple fact is we are not in a perfect world. What people fail to understand is that in Haiti we have the problem of poverty, The lack of money to build better structures is the real issue and always has been. Architects knwo it takes money to build a structure that is earthquake proof. Haiti shoud be wrote off actually. It would be far more cost effective to move the people to other nations. Haiti has some major issues that are not going to be solved over nite. Architects fall to understand the fact that in Haiti we have non skilled workers to build the homes. If you want a lowcost earthquake proof building design then to float above the ground and avoid the shock wave. It is called a cushing system. Build them light weight. With shock nutural leg units. That midagate the power of the earthquake. Or you can build buildings for 400 times the cost that will fall down due to the materials being subgrade. A plywood house is better then a concreat in a earthguake prown Island. Good luck.
There are currently known structural designs for earthquake resistant structures. Building codes set minimum standards for structural and other design elements to establish reasonable amount of risk, making construction is affordable. Exceeding building code requirements reduces the amount of risk increasing safety. Haiti may have had a limited building code, permit, and inspections process or none at all.
Well said Mr. Betsky; Let's hope big "D" architectural design can be held at bay in Haiti until the correct materials and methods of assembly are defined. That's the first order of business. A modular steel hybrid system should be developed (actually has) that is design neutral, and when assembled -- virtually self-inspecting -- and one that can adapt to local culture and skill levels. I'm an architect.
I think structures and code are among several issues that usually go unconsidered by many architecture and design students today. Anyone wishing to be an architect must consider the safety and basic structural requirements of any building they go on to design - the aspect of engineering a safe and secure buildings can't always be simply allocated to structural and civil engineers! Architects have a social responsibility to provide safe and secure dwellings for their clients.
Thanks for the thoughtful commentary. A detailed comparison with the 1989 Loma Prieta earthquake in the San Francisco area is instructive: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loma_Prieta_earthquake - California has experienced large quakes regularly. Haiti had not within two centuries. - The Loma Prieta quake epicenter was in a mountain area relatively far from the population centers, compared to the relatively close and shallow Haiti quake. - The total number of building collapses was rather higher from Loma Prieta than people tend to account for - since dozens more fell in the Santa Cruz area than San Francisco. - The simple prevalence of wood frame as opposed to masonry construction - separate from all other cultural and regulatory factors - is extremely significant in the survival rate of houses and small commercial buildings. - The monetary value of property damage from Loma Prieta might end up higher, even with the Haiti quake one of the top ten deadliest of the modern era. What does this say about Californians' relative ability to protect their property, proportional to their wealth? (It's a terribly irrelevant consideration at this stage of human rescue and relief, but not to the property insurance industry.) - About three times more people live in US areas, in six states, that do not have state or national building codes as the entire population of Haiti. - Outside of California and a few other quake-prone areas, relatively few buildings in the US, built in the 1970s and before, have received adequate seisimic upgrades. How would our most of our older building stock perform in a 7.0 Richter quake?
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New Orleans is a completely different issue. There's considerable evidence that hurricanes and global warming are linked. Earthquakes, on the other hand, are a geological event. Unless the Haitians were literally digging a pit to Hell (as Pat Roberts seems to suggest), it's unlikely there were any man-made causes of the earthquake. I don't know for sure, but it also seems like the landmass of Haiti itself was the result of a volcano. Basically, this has probably happened multiple times across the millennia and will probably continue to happen. New Orleans, on the other hand was more than likely avoidable. New Orleans had, and still has, skilled masons. There were systems in place to deal with the weather. The storm was bad, but there was a crucial breakdown in the chain of responsibility. Katrina no doubt would have been a problem either way, but the situation was no doubt fatally worsened by the lack of maintenance, both of structural and institutional systems.
I think when it comes to architecture in places like Haiti, the engineers could really help in creating applicable minimum standards for structural stability. There's a large population, a relatively small square footage of land to build on, and a very low budget. The engineers are tasked with advancing building technology so that structurally sound constructions can be built more economically.
There is a reason that architecture, as an institution, has not been able to seriously address such catastrophes as 9/11and Katrina, and will not in my view, Haiti. It lies in the The Institution of Architecture – schools, journals, and awards programs. From the very beginning of their training architects are taught – by example if not by dictums such as Daniel Burnham's "Make no small plans" – that a failed big idea is much more valuable than a small successful one. As long as Architecture teaches, publishes, and awards only big ideas – flawed as they might be, the modest ideas which one after the other are necessary to succeed in every walk of life, architects will remain marginalized as courtiers and the handmaidens of the elite.
Ugh. This post makes a great argument for the non-necessity af architects. Thanks for nothing. I would agrue that my fellow architects have not even the faintest notion of what it means to dwell communally. We like to think we do, but we're clueless, since we all went to school in the 20th century. Send 1000 unemployed architects to Haiti, and they will serve best by cleaning up rubble, mixing mortar, and stacking bricks - as instructed by the engineers of course. No amount of goatee-stroking synthesis of understanding will help. Please... End government corruption, establish societal standards such as the rule of law and the protection of private property (which encourage free enterprise and investment), and most importantly, support the family, civic, and religious institutions that serve to encourage the development of personal responsibility and other civic virtues that support human freedom and flourishing. It is not a viable process to dump in the cash, bring planners from on high, and then wring our hands about how our visions were not fully implemented. And no, Mr. Betsky, "a good and safe city is not just a collection of structures, [and] also of infrastructures", it is a collection of interconnected personal and social relationships first, foremost, and finally. No, Mr. Betsky, codes don't "work" - rather people within a society who feel responsible enough to one another to follow codes, they are the ones who "work". When will the cultural elite in this country cease to think of everything in terms of top-down structures, and regain some notion of the human person and people in social relationships. Unfortunately thinking through a tragedy in structural terms seems so easy in just 520 words. This article misses the point dramatically and dangerously. Architect's can't save the world - and especially not by offering our abilities to, um, think really hard about it. Let's all just take the shortcut and re-read Aristotle on the civic virtues and the life of the city.
"If architects gave them safe structures, they'd probably sell the door hardware for more ganja"...or Voodoo dolls, right, idiot?
A lot has to do with the quake generating just 6 miles below Port au Prince. Post study of the area should bear out some new information regarding what can be re-built and stand up to the extreme shaking that took place.
" offer their ability to synthesize an understanding of what it means to dwell communally..." What typical pseudo-intellectual drivel. No wonder he teaches and 'curates'...didn't last long in the harsh world of reality. B.S. is not what Hait needs. Haiti needs a basic civiization and reasonable society, for starters, which ain't something an architect is going to give them. If architects gave them safe structures, they'd probably sell the door hardware for more ganja.
I studied under Aaron, at Cal Poly Pomona. His, is the most wildly intelligent architectural mind on the planet. The images we are seeing from Haiti recall New Orleans but one order of magnitude worse (and considerably drier). Hopefully the instruments in place to re-build Haiti are aware of Mr. Betsky.
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Young Gay Athletes Set Tone for NBA Coming Out
Sports Illustrated: You've probably never heard of Holly Peterson or Jonathan Jean-Pierre. One came out as a lesbian at age 15, when she was playing high school basketball. The other, a college rower, told his teammates last year that he's gay.
There was little fanfare for either. There were no headlines as there were this past week when NBA player Jason Collins declared that he is gay, making him the first in a major U.S. men's professional sport to come out.
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Yes I Am Gay, and Yes I Am Saved
I wanted to compose my thoughts before rushing out and posting here, because claiming to be a gay Christian is a very touchy subject for some people. I'll try to keep it as short as I can.
I know what the Bible says about homosexuality. I know it's wrong, so does my fiance. It's an uncomfortable, hurtful, confusing and torturous position we're both in, because we are in love and will always be in love and never turn away from our homosexuality. It's just not going to happen. Am I prepared to pay the price for that? Absolutely. Because I can't help who I fall in love with anymore than the next person.
I don't think it's fair to claim that I can't be a homosexual and be saved. God made it eternally clear that there is no sin that can separate us from heaven except the rejection of Jesus Christ. All of us fall short of the glory of God. No one is good enough to enter heaven because of who they are and what they do. And all sin is sin in God's eyes, my homosexuality isn't any worse than your murdering/stealing ect.
Jesus died for my sins. He didn't die for everyone's sins except homosexuals, and to suggest that homosexuality is the one sin that will remain punishable is to deny God's power.
I'm not an informational convert. I didn't just agree to being saved and was saved, I've felt God and his presence, and know what it feels like to feel the Holy Spirit. That is my testimony. I have felt God, and that is the primary reason why I know He is real and alive. No one who is saved can explain that sudden rush of understanding, that feeling of total consciousness that God is there. It's like feeling God's personality.
And you know what? I've heard God say He loves me. You can call me crazy, but there was a time I was so emotionally destroyed that I prayed, "God, just once, tell me you love me."
And I heard Him tell me He loved me for a whole minute. I knew it was God, you want to know why? Because He always goes the extra mile for his children, and He knew I didn't need to hear it once, but a hundred times.
That's all.
Ok its my turn. I am appalled at some of the reprehensible and incoherent statements I've seen here. What passes as Christianity is embarassing at best and is at worst heresy. First off Konrad, ignore this nonsense about spirits and visions and stick to true faith. As an old time reform, 5 point Calvinist I rebuke all pentacostal crap and it isnt welcome at my door. Konrad, if you are saved, then you are. I am a homo, though i don't live that life anymore. I know, not believe, im saved for several reasons. I have on many occasions have seen prayer answered which doesnt happen if you're out of fellowship with God. Another is i have fruit in my life which wouldnt happen if i were not walking in faith. I do not seek to sin, though I do at times. And when I do i know I have Jesus to go to for forgiveness. Konrad, i wish i vould speak to you in person since i think we would undestand each other. Dont listen to bizarre babble about tongues, I've seen it and it scared the crap out of me, nothing Godly about someone going bah bah for 15 minutes and drooling on themselves. I hope you still monitor this, id love to get a reply. I will keep you in prayer, Merry Christmas.
I will be praying for you.
Konrad, I BEG YOU, please listen and take great heed to what I am about to tell you. I beg of you, please take serious concern to what I am about to tell you.
You are a Believer in Jesus Christ (John chapter 3 verse 16; and Romans chapter 10 verses 10 and 9)! Okay. GREAT! Very good!!! Absolutely. This is the first step to Salvation/being Saved (from Hell and entering in the gates of the Kingdom Of Heaven).
But, please if God's Spirit ... Holy Spirit begins convicting you of Homosexuality. And you turn away from it, you put it down, you repent, you turn away from it. And God then gives you the Baptismal of Holy Spirit (you go to prophesying and speaking in tongues, or and having visions-in-dreams) I BEG OF YOU ........... please do not go back. Please do not go back to being Gay. If you do you will end up like me. You will end up like repro1 (though, he did not receive the full Baptismal He did turn away from the sin of por* at the convicting of Holy Spirit yet went back to por* and He continued on to the point that He grieved Holy Spirit, sadden Him by repetitive willful sinning, so bad that He left out and an evil spirit entered into repro1).
And does God send evil spirits to persons? Even to Christians, Messianic Jews?
Yes!!!!!!! He did so with repro1 and I. Don't believe it???
Read 1 Samuel chapter 19 verse 9.
'And the evil spirit from the LORD was upon Saul (who was a Believer as this man had received the Baptismal of Holy Spirit ... Read 1 Samuel chapter 10 verses 1, 9, and 10), as he sat in his house with his javelin in his hand: and David played with his hand.'
Am I trying to be judgmental towards you? No. For one is to remember the parable of the log and splinter. Matthew chapter 7 verses 1 through 5.
I hope and I do mean I hope that you are one of those meant for the Faith, and not for the Call. (Because many if not most of those receiving the Call are loosing the Call by having gone back into Carnal Living - Repetitive Willful Sinning). Those He created for the Faith are those whom He has guided and shaped their lives so they will be taken (Raptured). Those He created for the Call are those that are destined to receive the Baptismal of Holy Spirit (the prophesying and speaking in tongues/having visions) which is mentioned in Acts chapter 2 verses 17 through 18 and talked about in Romans chapter 9.
Konrad, you are a Believer (John 3:16, Romans 10:10 and 9). But, there is a difference between a Believer and a Follower. No one ever said to me, 'Tracy! Yes, you are a Believer of Jesus Christ. And that is wonderful. But you are not a Follower of Jesus Christ, because you don't DAILY align your life up with Exodus chapter 20 verses 1 through 17, Matthew chapter 22 verses 36 through 40, and take heed to Matthew chapter 5 verses 27 and 28. Tracy, if you do go to Following Jesus Christ and you receive the Baptismal of Holy Spirit which is accompanied/shown by prophesying and speaking in tongues you are NOT to turn back/go back into repetitive willful sinning, carnal living because if you do you will grieve Holy Spirit so bad that He will leave out and a demon will enter in. And YOU WILL end up being Diabolic Possessed, Tracy!' Konrad, NO ONE every sat me down and told me any of that.
It is my hope that you take into consideration what I've written to you. And those that have read/are reading my messages here ... I am not trying to judge or harp on Konrad (because atleast He does Believe in Jesus Christ and was even blessed by Him with His presence and has experienced that which the Holy Bible calls as the 'still small voice of God' found in 1 Kings chapter 19 verses 11 through 13). I just wish for Konrad to not end up like me, repro1, and countless others.
One other thing, Konrad please go to spiritlessons.com and read those stories as they are real. Particular that of Mary K. Baxter as when I had Holy Spirit He gave me the knowledge that her testimony was true. She really had placed her fingers through Jesus' holes in His hands. Also, began reading on Susan Davis and Sabrina Jann. These are truly divine prophetesses of the Lord God Most High! As I once worked side by side with these ladies (so to speak) in my calling. And boy did He give me a calling. I wish the absolute best for you, Konrad. And I hope you make it (Raptured)! I really do!!!! :-) I don't wish for you or anyone to go to Hell. For Hell is for eternity just as Heaven is. Konrad, here is there website Godhead blessed them with. http://end-times-prophecy.com/blog
Really you need to go read that page, it was written just for you
If anyone reading this story is a Christian or a Messianic Jewish then please read this person's story (repro1 - it was the sin of por*) as it could very well happen to you. Also, scroll down (through the comments) and read the comment written by tsthompson07 (lusting with they eyes, mind, and heart).
Really you need to go read that page, it was written just for you
yes it's hard to get some christians to understand us. Ask if they would start to throw stones in their own china shop.
That's really beautiful how God told you he loved you :)
Trying to justify your sinful lifestyle will not saved you from the reality of doom. When you get there, remember that you did it to yourself. No human being can just stop being homo/bi. Only Jesus can save you and deliver you from homosexuality.
Then why has no one been? There has been no successful attempt to overcome homosexuality, whether through prayer, or ex-gay therapy. It just hurts people. That's why I left religion. I got tired of people telling me how to live my life. I also finally found out the truth about God and his existence. I'm no longer living a life of misery and loneliness, and I'm glad.
Yes, there have been plenty of testimonials from ex gays who were delivered by JESUS. NOT "gay conversion" therapy. No one can "ungay" themselves. Only Jesus has that power. Now, as with any sinful lifestyle, it's always possible to choose to return to it after being delivered from it. I made that mistake, sadly and am now paying dearly for it. After having been washed by the blood of Jesus, I went back to wallowing in the mire of sin.
Really you need to go read that page, it was written just for you
"God made it eternally clear that there is no sin that can separate us from heaven except the rejection of Jesus Christ." And Christ made it clear that accepting Him means obeying Divine Law and that includes obeying the ones He gave authority to. What you are suggesting - to justify your sinful lifestyle which will indeed lead you and your partner to hell if unrepented - is that anyone can sin as much as he wants so long as he claims to believe and accept the Lord as his Saviour. That is mocking God. And no, salvation is not the price of that. 1 Corinthians 6 and 1 Timothy 1 contain a list of sins that if unrepented will bar you from receiving life eternal.
Yes you are right, we can NEVER justify our sins and then expect to make it to heaven in that condition, if that was the case his dying would be in vain, and everybody could stay in their sin and go to hell. You need to be delivered from thatt spirit. This is the ONLY problem I have with gay people, you all think your special when it comes to God. But ALL must come out of their sins! All that includes you too, another scripture say that to him to knkow to do right and wont do it that is sin and he will be whooped with many stripes! Make your mind up! Either you will denounce that spirit and serve God purily or you will die in your sin if you dont REPENTand CHANGE! I love you my brother, but there is no justifying sin... for the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is life eternal Romans 6:23. You need to be delivered, Yes God loves you, but not the SIN, reread Romans the first chapter ask God to take it away from you and He will, but He will not force us He gave man one of the most powerful things on the earth and that is CHOICE! Choose this day who you will serve- Joshua 24:14-15.
I think we have to do some soul searching here.

For this reason God gave them over to dishonorable passions. For their women exchanged the natural sexual relations for unnatural ones, and likewise the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed in their passions for one another. Men committed shameless acts with men and received in themselves the due penalty for their error.

And just as they did not see fit to acknowledge God, God gave them over to a depraved mind, to do what should not be done. They are filled with every kind of unrighteousness, wickedness, covetousness, malice. They are rife with envy, murder, strife, deceit, hostility. They are gossips, slanderers, haters of God, insolent, arrogant, boastful, contrivers of all sorts of evil, disobedient to parents, senseless, covenant-breakers, heartless, ruthless. Although they fully know God's righteous decree that those who practice such things deserve to die, they not only do them but also approve of those who practice them. (Romans 1:26-32 NET)

While it's true Jesus does have compassion on sinners like us (Jesus had compassion on prostitutes, murderers...) Having a Gay marriage still angers him. If you are saved by God, wouldn't you want to please him in all areas of your life?

Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived! The sexually immoral, idolaters, adulterers, passive homosexual partners, practicing homosexuals, thieves, the greedy, drunkards, the verbally abusive, and swindlers will not inherit the kingdom of God. Some of you once lived this way. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God. (1 Corinthians 6:9-11 NET)

Indeed, before we are saved, we were infinitely evil, but now with Christ, he gave us power over sin (sexually immoral, idolaters, adulterers, passive homosexual partners, practicing homosexuals). He clearly wants us to get rid of it.
God does love you. and he always will, though you have accepted christ, it dosn't mean you can sin though. Just remeber what would Jesus do.
It would be a sin if I a gay person had a hetereosexual relationship to go against Gods nature I have been created to please the idols of church and church people.
The Bible doesnot condemn a Godly gay relationship. For goodness sake you cannot make a doctrine over a few sc<x>ripture which only condemn a same sex act that is condemned in idol worship.

Most of the sc<x>riptures condemning homosexuality had to do with idol worship. The bible cannot have all information to help with modern society today. The traditional norms do not fit.

Here are some questions.

Why isnt hermaphrodites spoken in the bible and how would you fit the one flesh doctrine to those who are born with both sexes.

If the old testament was written for sexual example why arent lesbians condemned as well.

As one who has been a pentacostal minister and someone who is fanatical about doctrine I have honestly realised that the Bible does not condemn a holy same sex union. The Church in all reality is a same sex union as Christ will be married to men. With this in mind dont feel condemned for when you where created you were wonderfully made
Hey Pentalcostal Minister, You better get it right with your messed up mind and sin filled ideas to please your flesh, the bible says that God is angry with the WICKED everyday! Stop misinforming these lost souls on here, let me get it straight. Lesbians are punished, all are punished who remains in their sin! Fornicators, murderers, liars,doubters,witches,warlocks, thieves. All sinners! Stop trying to condone your sin, and COME out in the name of Jesus! Old or new testament God says homosexual practices are wrong! Accept it or not! He made man and woman to procreate the World get over it! Marriage is ordained by God for man and woman Gen 1:26-28. God is not sick or perverted. He is never going to change His word to fit you or I. But please don't lead these souls wrong, your going to be held accountable with blood on your hands, but I won't stand by and let you! If we remain in our sin we die and go to hell I don't care what sin it is... Romans 6:23 for the wages of sin is death, BUT the gift of God is everlasting life! Whoever on here that can see this turn to Jesus NOW! in a hurry! This world is going to end soon, and Jesus when he comes back is only coming back for a righteous and pure people! No flesh shall ENTER in. He will judge sin and all sinners will have their part in the lake of fire that burns with fire and brimstone! Revelation 21:8 Cant you see? Jesus is coming soon, and no unrighteousness will stand before him, yes he loves all man what He created, but He won't tolerate sin from nobody. REPENT for the kingdom of heaven is at hand! Accept Jesus into your hearts and believe with your mouth that He is the TRUE son of God Romans 10:9-10 and thou shalt be saved from this wicked generation! It breaks my heart everyday for the LGBT Community I love them as well, they are beautiful people but they got to come out of that lifestyle like everybody else! No we don't condemn them to hell, but I will not back down from God's Word for nobody I expect the same with my issues! The great Deception to them is that they are special, no! god is serious about SIN, and He will judge it! He is a God of love mercy, and compassion, but never forget He is also a God of judgement and executes righteousness on the earth, He is JUST , and no one can stand against His judgement! I love you whoever you are, but I won't stand by and let you mislead these precious souls! God loves and so do I!
Hey girl. You need to read all of scripture and not just the bits you like. As a woman you need to have your head covered and remian silent. Thats right. You have no authority over men period. So be quiet and let the men in your life do the talking!
God does condenm homosexual practices in Roman chapter one and leviticus 18:22! It is a spirit! I know it is, but anyone who wants to break out, I am here to tell you that you can!God can free you completely if you want Him to. What planet are you on? He is not talking about Idol worship pertaining to ungodly acts! He have spoken and made it plain, now either you will accept it and come subject or die in your sins and go to hell where the worm dieth not and their is eternal madness forever. The biggest devastation is that a person is forever seperated from God, no more prayers, or singing, or calling on Jesus name in hell, and if you do he cannot help you! God don't send people to hell, we send ourselves! Hell is real just like heaven is did you know that pentecostal minister? And those that know better have the harsher punishment in hell! No, nobody is born gay! Stop putting that LIE out there. It is not the same as being white or black. They change partners quickly, I cant go and change my color at all. It is a lifestyle choice! Weshall know the truth and it shall make us free john 6:32! That spirit enters in them, when they are raped, and sexually abused most likely by the same sex, as children. That is a tramatic act that they unsubconciously have to battle with all their life, but I have some good news, there is HOPE! If they turn to Jesus, he will forgive them, and continue to love them. But they to renounce that spirit! Like we all had to do, I don't care what sin it was, it had to be renounced! If you are gay looking at this and want to change, God has sent me to tell you that you can, Ask Jesus to come into your heart and life and change it, will He do it? Yes! Will it be easy? No, homosexuality, like drugs, is a power demon, but God is able. you have to want it though. Jesus loves you and so do I.
Read Luke 17:34.
I truely think that everyone is children of God. And you are as well. God has created you in his image and therefore it is okay to be gay if you're that way bc that cannot be changed.

God bless :)
It is not okay to be gay!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And it can be changed, they have to want the change! Stop lying to these people, so they can continue in their ungodly pleasure of practicing Sin before a righteous God! Stop it!
More verbal nonsense from an ignorant woman. Ones sexuality cannot be changed just as you cannot be forced to become lesbian. Once again I will remind you of the New Testamants advice for women, to have their heads covered and to remain silent. You have no authority over men. Read your Bible woman and remain silent.
Oh I also want to know just when did you choose to be attracted to men and not to women, was it a choice ?
I´m agree with you God loves us ´cause He made us perfect
No we are not perfect, God is!
How people equate being gay to being a murderer, thief, ********* is beyond me.

They say that ignorance is bliss, but I find it hard to believe that someone who is willing to harbor that much hate in their is finding much bliss. You can agree or disagree with whatever you believe being gay entails, but hate only propagates the negativity that we experience on a daily basis. It is only with love for one another will we make strides towards a better future. Love is the answer! Hate does nothing!
Love don't mean ACCEPT sin from NOBODY!
How people equate being gay to being a murderer, thief, ********* is beyond me.

They say that ignorance is bliss, but I find it hard to believe that someone who is willing to harbor that much hate in their is finding much bliss. You can agree or disagree with whatever you believe being gay entails, but hate only propagates the negativity that we experience on a daily basis. It is only with love for one another will we make strides towards a better future. Love is the answer! Hate does nothing!
your story is great
The Lord is not slow in keeping his promise, as some understand slowness. He is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance. (2 Peter 3:9)

Although God would want that all be saved, He doesn't force anyone to spend eternity with Him. So, all must freely make the choice to seek after Him or reject Him.
so true
I am Christian (although not gay) and do not for one second look down upon those that are gay. EVERYBODY has their "thing" that they struggle with and at least yours involves LOVING another human being, you know? A few of mine, for example, are smoking cigarettes & swearing too much. Both, of which most certainly have nothing to do with love. What is most important is that we realize that we are saved by grace through our faith in Christ- THAT is what makes us Christian, NOT our works. Just do the best you can in all that you do and know that you're not alone. HUGS!!!
I hope this isn't dead, but I thought my 2 cents might inspire something.

If people are going to sit and point fingers, that is ignorance. If people are going to accuse you of sinning and how you should choose or change your life, that is pride. If people are going to live by how they feel, people will suffer their consequences. Basics, Jesus came knowing he was going to be a sacrifice for the world to save us from our sins... That is love, knowing you are going to live a perfect life (kinda easy since HE IS)

I am also assuming that you know all of this. Assuming that you have read or know enough of the Bible to know somewhat of what the Character of God is?!

We have to trust in Jesus and what his life was about and what his life means to us. We should not be accusing each other of what is right and wrong, especially if it is written in black and white. We need to be uplifting each other! It says to "glorify the Lord in all things you do" So whenever you do something, inside and out, ask if you are glorifying the lord? What if Jesus decided that he felt like he didn't want to die for everyone's sin because he was more important and wanted to experience a good healthy life?! We would be screwed!!! But yet we still fight over what is right and what is wrong, we push the ten commandments away, but when in debate bring up the points that benefit us.

You said something about "my homosexuality isn't any worse than you murdering/stealing, etc... I also agree, especially with people who sit there and talk down to others that say "Homosexuals will burn in hell!" because who are they? They are everything that homosexuals are to God! Beautiful creations... One thing that got me when I was reading a book called "The Pursuit of Holiness" by Jerry Bridges, is that he was explaining why we should strive to be Holy, Jesus said, those who love me will obey me... I love the Lord! and that is what really began to set me free from my sinful habits... Am I perfect, come on... But I hope this helps... We should be striving to Love Jesus... Pick up our cross... Whatever that means to you! :)
1 Tim 4 is my goto pro-marriage equality verse. I have been using it because it fits this situation perfectly.

- first of all it is prophetic 'later days', it didn't happen then. In fact, Gay marriage ceremonies seem to have been conducted until the 1300's. (article on gaychristian101, with supporting evidence from 2008)

- it talks about marriage being denied, something that doesn't happen for anyone...except same sex partners.

- it talks about being denied food created by God for those who believe...which is communion

This is the picture of what we see happening to people. Right now in New York, a Catholic Bishop is not only denying communion to Gay people but all elected officials who don't declare their opposition to the new law.

Sick. Deny communion to anyone who won't endorse your view publicly! That demand is so far out of the bounds of what God would want. He asks that we love him under our own free will. Good Christians should be allowed to disagree without being disagreeable!
I agree that this is sick, twisted, and aggressive... but doesn't it say that Satan roams the earth like a lion seeking his pray. He has been playing people forever. He wants people to live their emotions and hatred out because it hurts us, and what hurts us hurts God.
Kris99, This is a genuine question. I'm not baiting you or anything like that. Where is a reference to gay marriages until 1300's? I heard someone say that even in societies where gay/lesbians were accepted, marriage was between a man and woman. I'm interested in an opposing viewpoint. I'm trying to give this gay/lesbian thing an honest look. Thank you.
1 Timothy 4 (New International Version)

1 The Spirit clearly says that in later times some will abandon the faith and follow deceiving spirits and things taught by demons. 2 Such teachings come through hypocritical liars, whose consciences have been seared as with a hot iron. 3 They forbid people to marry and order them to abstain from certain foods, which God created to be received with thanksgiving by those who believe and who know the truth. 4 For everything God created is good, and nothing is to be rejected if it is received with thanksgiving, 5 because it is consecrated by the word of God and prayer.

whhhoooooo is this from the same bible that condemns homosexuality. aaaahh you see its so easy to play that game. i do however love this sc<x>ripture. the point is go read the word study it . pull it appart inspect it with a fine tooth comb devour it and make it part of you only then can you truelly know Gods love and how it works . and if God then convicts you that homosexuality is wrong then so be it. but me i cannot and will not believe that the God of love who is love and sends us a constant message of love would ever deny someone because of love.
i am a gay christian 2. i would like to however point out that murder and homosexuality are 2 very differant things as murder is sin being gay is not. lust wich a lot of gay ppl experience because of the culture is a sin but if you truely love someone,God is love so then love is God and since God is perfect love true love can never be a sin. the bible is the inspired word of God and cannot be ignored what needs to be acknowledged is the fact that the bible has been translated from a form of greek and hebrew that doesnt exist anymore buy a culture we barely understand. Gods word was written by men of this time and culture. so the original king james version wich was written in the 1700s didnt contain the words homosexual purely because the word didnt exist then in the begining of the 1900s new versions such as the niv decided the word sexual perversions wasnt clear enough and seen as sociology describes homosexuality as a sexual perversion( wich mearly means different to societies norm, however one can argue wich society some subgroups would say not some socities practice things we may concider very bizare or barbaric but none the less a norm to that society) they would include homosexaulity just incase ppl felt it wasnt a perversion. ????? what why would they worry about that ahhh because social norms change. so whos norms where moses and paul( main guys that apparently condemn homosexuality ) talking about. theres . message by God interpretted by them in there understanding then further and further interpretted and translated till ooops somehow we decided homosexuals were def a big no no.
Darling, I love you , but God will never and is never going to accept sin from anyone! I will pray for your blinded mind, and ask that God will help you! That scripture forbidding people to marry you have tailor fashioned it to condone your desires, when God has made it REAL plain what is sin and what will not enter into a holy and sin free heavenly place called heaven. that scriture is referring toBut the Spirit explicitly says that in later times some will fall away from the faith, paying attention to deceitful spirits and doctrines of demons, by means of the hypocrisy of liars seared in their own conscience as with a branding iron, men who forbid marriage and advocate abstaining from foods, which God has created to be gratefully shared in by those who believe and know the truth. For everything created by God is good, and nothing is to be rejected, if it is received with gratitude; for it is sanctified by means of the word of God and prayer." (1st Timothy 4:1-5).
1. Paul tells, and warns Timothy that men will fall away from the faith. Brothers and sisters will fall away from the faith. They will be deceived from deceitful spirits, and doctrines, or teachings of demons.
2. A very violent description, their consciences are seared as with a branding iron. This simply comes from liars, and men who know they are liars, they are hypocrites and ignore the truth and by their hypocrisy they lead many away.
3. Forbidding marriage, and abstaining from foods are two examples of these demonic doctrines. It sounds like they were trying to bind where the word of God does not bind. There is nothing inherently wrong with food or marriage when those who know the truth gratefully share it. God created these things a certain way, and they are good things.
4. Everything created by God is good does not mean it is o.k. to abuse the body with drugs, or does not mean that we have the right to indulge ourselves in sinful activities, and materialism. Nothing is to be rejected though. No person should feel that just because they are a Christian means they cannot enjoy things in life. But when you are enjoying different blessings, you need to acknowledge and receive them with gratitude.
5. The good things Paul is talking about are sanctified by the means of the word of God and are good things, But we also set these things apart, when thanking God for them
Marriage was ordained by God between a man and a woman to procreate the earth.18 And the LORD God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him.
19 And out of the ground the LORD God formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air; and brought them unto Adam to see what he would call them: and whatsoever Adam called every living creature, that was the name thereof.
20 And Adam gave names to all cattle, and to the fowl of the air, and to every beast of the field; but for Adam there was not found an help meet for him.
21 And the LORD God caused a deep sleep to fall upon Adam, and he slept: and he took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh instead thereof;
22 And the rib, which the LORD God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man.
23 And Adam said, This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man.
24 Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh.
25 And they were both naked, the man and his wife, and were not ashamed.
God's Plan for Marriage
Genesis 1:27-28 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God he created him; male and female he created them. And God blessed them. And God said to them, "Be fruitful and multiply and fill the earth and subdue it and have dominion over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the heavens and over every living thing that moves on the earth."
Let marriage be held in honor among all
Genesis 2:21-25 So the LORD God caused a deep sleep to fall upon the man, and while he slept took one of his ribs and closed up its place with flesh. And the rib that the LORD God had taken from the man he made into a woman and brought her to the man. Then the man said, "This at last is bone of my bones and flesh of my flesh; she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man." Therefore a man shall leave his father and his mother and hold fast to his wife, and they shall become one flesh. And the man and his wife were both naked and were not ashamed.
Malachi 2:14,15 But you say, "Why does he not?" Because the LORD was witness between you and the wife of your youth, to whom you have been faithless, though she is your companion and your wife by covenant.
1 Corinthians 7:2 But because of the temptation to sexual immorality, each man should have his own wife and each woman her own husband.
Hebrews 13:4 Let marriage be held in honor among all, and let the marriage bed be undefiled, for God will judge the sexually immoral and adulterous.
Children Given for Marriage
Genesis 29:22,23 So Laban gathered together all the people of the place and made a feast. But in the evening he took his daughter Leah and brought her to Jacob, and he went in to her.
Judges 1:12 And Caleb said, "He who attacks Kiriath-sepher and captures it, I will give him Achsah my daughter for a wife." And Othniel the son of Kenaz, Caleb's younger brother, captured it. And he gave him Achsah his daughter for a wife.
1 Samuel 17:25 And the men of Israel said, "Have you seen this man who has come up? Surely he has come up to defy Israel. And the king will enrich the man who kills him with great riches and will give him his daughter and make his father's house free in Israel."
1 Samuel 18:20,21 Now Saul's daughter Michal loved David. And they told Saul, and the thing pleased him. Saul thought, "Let me give her to him, that she may be a snare for him and that the hand of the Philistines may be against him." Therefore Saul said to David a second time, "You shall now be my son-in-law."
Popular Bible Marriages/Weddings
Genesis 24:67 Then Isaac brought her into the tent of Sarah his mother and took Rebekah, and she became his wife, and he loved her. So Isaac was comforted after his mother's death.
1 Samuel 25:40-42 When the servants of David came to Abigail at Carmel, they said to her, "David has sent us to you to take you to him as his wife." And she rose and bowed with her face to the ground and said, "Behold, your handmaid is a servant to wash the feet of the servants of my lord." And Abigail hurried and rose and mounted a donkey, and her five young women attended her. She followed the messengers of David and became his wife.
Ruth 4:13 So Boaz took Ruth, and she became his wife. And he went in to her, and the LORD gave her conception, and she bore a son.
Esther 2:16-18 And when Esther was taken to King Ahasuerus, into his royal palace, in the tenth month, which is the month of Tebeth, in the seventh year of his reign, the king loved Esther more than all the women, and she won grace and favor in his sight more than all the virgins, so that he set the royal crown on her head and made her queen instead of Vashti. Then the king gave a great feast for all his officials and servants; it was Esther's feast. He also granted a remission of taxes to the provinces and gave gifts with royal generosity.
Luke 2:4,5 (KJV) And Joseph also went up from Galilee, out of the city of Nazareth, into Judaea, unto the city of David, which is called Bethlehem; (because he was of the house and lineage of David:) To be taxed with Mary his espoused wife, being great with child.
John 2:1,2 On the third day there was a wedding at Cana in Galilee, and the mother of Jesus was there. Jesus also was invited to the wedding with his disciples.
What the Earthly Marriage Symbolizes
Isaiah 54:5 For your Maker is your husband, the LORD of hosts is his name; and the Holy One of Israel is your Redeemer, the God of the whole earth he is called.
Ephesians 5:23,24,32 For the husband is the head of the wife even as Christ is the head of the church, his body, and is himself its Savior. Now as the church submits to Christ, so also wives should submit in everything to their husbands. This mystery is profound, and I am saying that it refers to Christ and the church.
Revelation 19:7-9 Let us rejoice and exult and give him the glory, for the marriage of the Lamb has come, and his Bride has made herself ready; it was granted her to clothe herself with fine linen, bright and pure"— for the fine linen is the righteous deeds of the saints. And the angel said to me, "Write this: Blessed are those who are invited to the marriage supper of the Lamb." And he said to me, "These are the true words of God."
Revelation 21:9-14 Then came one of the seven angels who had the seven bowls full of the seven last plagues and spoke to me, saying, "Come, I will show you the Bride, the wife of the Lamb."And he carried me away in the Spirit to a great, high mountain, and showed me the holy city Jerusalem coming down out of heaven from God, having the glory of God, its radiance like a most rare jewel, like a jasper, clear as crystal. It had a great, high wall, with twelve gates, and at the gates twelve angels, and on the gates the names of the twelve tribes of the sons of Israel were inscribed—on the east three gates, on the north three gates, on the south three gates, and on the west three gates. And the wall of the city had twelve foundations, and on them were the twelve names of the twelve apostles of the Lamb.
Christian Quotes About Marriage
"Marriage is an exclusive union between one man and one woman, publicly acknowledged, permanently sealed, and physically consummated." ~ Selwyn Hughes
"The monstrosity of sexual intercourse outside marriage is that those who indulge in it are trying to isolate one kind of union (the sexual) from all the other kinds of union which were intended to go along with it and make up the total union." ~ C.S. Lewis
"A man doesn't own his marriage; he is only the steward of his wife's love." ~ Edwin Louis Cole (Ed Cole)
"God created marriage. No government subcommittee envisioned it. No social organization developed it. Marriage was conceived and born in the mind of God." ~ Max Lucado
"Fifty-fifty marriages are an impossibility. They do not work. They cannot work. In marriage someone has to be the final decision maker. Someone has to delegate responsibility, and God has ordained that this should be the husband. " ~ Wayne Mack
The Holy Bible, English Standard Version
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When you get the chance look up sexual immoral- oooops I already did for you! Sexual Immoral-The definition of immoral is deliberately
violating accepted principles of right and wrong.
The sexually immoral includes: prostitution,
***********, having sex outside of marriage,
homosexuality, and adultery.The bible says, "Flee from sexual immorality. All other sins a man commits are outside
his body, but he who sins sexually sins against his own body. Do you not know that your
body is a temple of the Holy Spirit, who is in you, whom you have received from God?
You are not your own; you were bought at a price. Therefore honor God with your body."
(1 Corinthians 6:18-20)
Revelation 21:8 - The Sexually Immoral
"The cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers, the sexually immoral,
those who practice magic arts, the idolaters and all liars
- their place will be in the fiery lake of burning sulfur. This is the second death."
The definition of immoral is deliberately
violating accepted principles of right and wrong.
The sexually immoral includes: prostitution,
***********, having sex outside of marriage,
homosexuality, and adultery.
The bible says, "Flee from sexual immorality. All other sins a man commits are outside
his body, but he who sins sexually sins against his own body. Do you not know that your
body is a temple of the Holy Spirit, who is in you, whom you have received from God?
You are not your own; you were bought at a price. Therefore honor God with your body."
(1 Corinthians 6:18-20)
You are supposed to honor God with your body. When you are sexually immoral, you sin
against God and yourself. God knows your every thought and action. The bible says living
a homosexual life style is wrong. You need to repent and turn from your wickedness. You
can not hide your sins from God. On Judgement Day, all of your sins will be exposed.The 7th commandment is: "You shall not commit adultery." (Exodus 20:14)
Jesus said, "You have heard that it was said, 'Do not commit adultery.' But I tell you that
anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his
heart." (Matthew 5:27-28) If you have ever looked at anyone with lust, that makes you an
adulterer at heart.
All *********** is sexually immoral. You are not supposed to even look with lust. God
can help you overcome any type of sin.
"If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify
us from all unrighteousness." (1 John 1:9
The definition of immoral is deliberately
violating accepted principles of right and wrong.
The sexually immoral includes: prostitution,
***********, having sex outside of marriage,
homosexuality, and adultery.
Paul saw a division I'm the early Church forming over the food that they ate. He saw Jews following the law (right from Leviticus) and he saw Gentiles that weren't. The gentiles didn't believe they were sinning eating pork. The Jews said it was the law and it was good for them to follow the law.

Because it was the law they fealt they were right.

Paul saw it differently. He said that it is not what you put into your mouth that makes you unclean but what comes out of it. He sided squarely with the Gentiles but he also said that the Gentiles living under grace should not cause someone who believes something is a sin to sin.

So the Jews were also doing what was right.

Paul interpreted Gods teachings and made a judgement. In doing so he kept the Jewish people from pride and arrogance and reminded the Gentiles of what love requires.

I believe this is not so different. This issue is dividing the church. I know of a church near me which converted from being Episcaplian to Anglican because of this issue alone.

There is a battle for who owns the property, the people in the church are bitterly divided, and I would guess people were deeply hurt that they were rejected by their local church just as they were being accepted nationally. How would you feel?

The battle is again those who seek to do what they believe God wants with others who live boldly under grace.

Until the end of days when God judges us we will not know who is the wheat and who is the tairs with certainty but we can look at the fruits of the labor.

God says that all that is from God will bear good fruit.

I can tell you that there are some gay people who have repented of their 'sin' and seem genuinely happy. I have never met these people but I trust their testimony. I can also tell you that the number is very few. Some repent and are not exactly happy but live celibate lives or marry the opposite gender...again very few.

In fact, Exodus international is the leading organization behind this...another group obtained from Exodus international a list of people that were successes and followed up for them. Of the people not one said their same sex attraction went away. Many were in same sex relationships again.

If that's God blessing and prospering his goid and faithful servants, I would be astounded.

On the other hand we have entire denominations that have grown up around being open and affirming. One of the largest is the MCC which has grown to 250 churches in 22 countries and has 43,000 members from it's founding in 1968.

In that church I know of people that have been personally transformed from a life filled with depression, anger, pain, and suffering to new people in Christ. God is at work and thousands of people are being ripped from the grip of hell and given new life.

They are growing too. Lives changed from broken to rebuilt giving glory and honor to God. That's what I am hearing.

Onthe otherwise I have heard my friends give testimony of their families closing their doors and hearts to them. I have heard heart wrenching stories of physical and emotional abuse committed by Christians that leave people broken and suicidal. In fact, no other demographic has a higher risk of suicide than LGBT people...including people with crippling mental illnesses.

What is needed is the life altering message that God loves you no matter who you are. That is tge message of the church! That's what we are supposed to share!

That's what I am thinking.

I want everyone to know that God loves them right where they are. From us he expects love to him and our neighbors which is everyone.

I say all this and I am afraid I am sounding like I am above this. I am not. I sin still almost every day. Tonight I raised my voice at my daughter and I threw a book at her. Mind you, it was her book and I didn't throw it in a way that would hurt anything but her feelings...but I was angry and I did it in anger.

What prompted this was that she failed to get the table cleaned off for dinner, then after we had dinner only the adults cleaned off their dishes, which prompted the special punishment of cleaning off the table. As the oldest (11) she was told to make sure her brothers did their jobs which were to clean off the cups for the youngest and to clean off plates and other trash to the older.

This is a five minute job for most adults.

One hour later, I heard the brothers fighting in the kitchen and went to deal with the situation. When I arrived I saw plates, cups, trash, and the table wasn't wiped down. My daughter was off in the living room waiting for them to do their job.

So I was upset. I pointed out with a calm but elevated voice that it was her job to make sure that they did. That it was her job even before dinner to get it cleaned off. That it was in fact a punishment and that she hadn't even bothered to clean off her things.

To which she retorted 'I cleaned off my things' in a very snotty tone.

That was the moment she received in her direction the book which was laying clearly on the table.

Now, I have learned tonight two lessons one is that I really hate getting mad at my children. The second thing is when God gives us a job and we don't get it done and he tells us to go do it again he is going to be mad...really mad when he catches us playing video games and claiming that someone else needs to do their job first so when he is chastising me, my plan is to bow my head and say I am sorry and get to work cause I don't want God to throw the book at me!

I am no better than my daughter was tonight in how I live. The gospel is very clear in my head and so much harder to live. Because I know this, my daughter received from me an apology for losing my temper and hugs before bed. I received a clean table.

One last thought though, I have often said that if I am wrong and homosexuality is a sin, myself and every gay person will go to hell when we are judged. Which is in essence the same outcome as if I was never a Christian. Justice will be served because God judges right every time.

If the church is wrong as many as 600 million people in this world today will never hear and feel welcomed by God when he wanted them with him. When he told us that it was our job to tell people about him and his love for us. A field that size needs some people working in the fields trying to bring in his harvest!

Paul told us if we can't agree on matters of sc<x>ripture that are debatable then wait and let God decide. The church should not be splitting. All should be welcomed. God will sort us all out when the time comes. The harvest will go to his storerooms. The taires into the furnace.

I pray that none of us are in the latter group.
Ahh ok Kris99 I now understand your thinking. I agree that our salvation comes by faith and not works but I have to say I also believe that when a person truly has salvation their actions and works and lifestyles reflect Christ. Many people believe that because they are forgiven, they can continue in their sin regardless to what it is. The sc<x>riptures say opposite. And although the Old Testament isn't as relevant, 2 Timothy 3:16 says its not to be ignored because it has come from God and He wouldn't have given us those books if they were not for our learning. So for me, Leviticus is not out. I just dont feel like its my place to pick and choose what part of God's Word is relevant or irrelevant you know? I just accept it all and live life to the fullest but attempting to do so without sin with the help of Jesus. But I do respect your views. and I appreciate your explanation
God does not view all sins the same. God has clearly indicated this through Jesus himself:

Luke 11:23-24 says, "If the miracles that were performed in you had been performed in Sodom, it would have remained to this day. But I tell you that it will be more bearable for Sodom on the day of judgment than for you."

I can't read that and think all sins are the same.

In point of fact, I don't believe a mother stealing to feed herself and her children is even a sin. The sin was in not providing the food when the need was apparent. Sometimes doing nothing is a sin.

Now, on to your Leviticus sc<x>ripture. Leviticus is not rules for every day people today. It was rules for a specific people at a specific time for a specific reason. God needed his people to stick together in a very special way, apart from the other nations. He wanted them to be different from those they lived among the rules made them different. He also wanted them to be safer. There is nothing wrong with that. Most Christians don't live by these rules because they have looked at them and realized they aren't needed. We are called to a higher order of righteousness than following a list.

The fact is the *law* never was intended to produce right living, it was intended to break us of our self righteousness. To teach humility. To teach us the higher calling that Jesus called us to. Living on faith, love, and charity. Making choices not because it is the law but because it is right.

I believe your problem in understanding this is that you are still living your life like it is following the law that sets you apart and makes you right with God.

In your head and heart you *KNOW* it is your faith in Jesus as your savior that sets you apart and makes you right with God.

To set your mind at ease though, let me assure you that if Konrad is lying with a man....it's nothing like with a woman. Moreover, it's not going to cause him to stop wanting to be the best person he can be and living each day for God.

I agree, we shouldn't make harsh judgments on other people. Please understand that Jesus told us not to do this for a reason. It mutes his testimony. It drives people away from God. They curse him and his church today because of this abuse.

I also agree God doesn't change his principles or standards but he has changed his strategy. He has made a series of promises and each time he has honored them without a fault even when we failed to honor our parts.

Bottom line though, none of us are justified or accepted by God because of our actions it's by faith in Jesus. That is how we are accepted and call ourselves Christian.

While I may have already spoken for Konrad too much, my best guess is he simply accepts it as a sin that is not his to change. In my case, I reject the belief that it's sin at all. I believe we are called to look at the actions and motives behind the actions of people and look to understand Gods reason for something being a sin in the first place.

God gives us permission to ask why. That's not a sin.

I look at the fruits of the spirit that come from an action. The fruits sewn by those who stand firm in the belief that homosexuality as sin, I do not find to be from God but those on the other side who call for marriage and righteous living I believe are.
Kris99, welll actually I do believe all sin is the same in the eyes of God. (Except for blasphemy of course) I think He judges according to the heart but I don't think there is any excuse for sin, therefore He views it all the same way. But yes the intent behind certain sins are judged soley by Him, not me. That's why man is not God lol. James 2:10, 1 John 3:4-5, and 1 Corinthians 6:9-10 state that sins are viewed the same way.

And Konrad is right in that homosexuality is indeed sinful. "Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination" (Leviticus 18:22). "If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them" (Leviticus 20:13). It doesn't get clearer than that. God took down a whole city ba<x>sed on that sort of sexual immorality. My question to Konrad was, knowing this fact, how does one feel justified in continuing this lifestyle?

I don't believe people should make harsh judgments on other people but I also believe that we should take the Bible for what it is and not try to make it convenient for us because God doesn't change His principles or standards to make us happy no matter what we feel. I have the same question for anyone who knows the truth and chooses to live in perpetual sin of any kind. Where do they find justification and acceptance from God?
right you can put up scripture take a piece of it and try convince the rest of the world what you believe in is correct. Now isnt it interesting that those scripture who you say are a sexual example do not condemn a same sex relationahip for woman. This is only spoken in Romans 1 - 20 etc now why is this. The word toevah could relate to some thing yet in this count it means abomination related to idol worship. This is confirmed when Paul mentioned Idol worship in romans. So it was a same sex act in Idol worship leviticus is referring to. Romans uses a interesting physis (φύσις), which means the nature we are born with. It was not uncommon for hetereosexual to have ritual sex to each other for pagan gods. They raped rulers for thier gods. Becuase these hetereosexual went against thier nature. With this in mind it is also wrong for Christian Gay people to go against our nature and marry hetereosexual because we are afraid of our idols the church or our church family. For me to listen to your belief you will have me committ sin. This will not happen
iceprincess09,

Do you really believe that all sins are equal? It's true that we have all sinned and fallen short, but I would argue that not all sins are the same!

Can you really see the sin of a mother and her boyfriend raping her young daughter over and over again for years as being the same as someone who steals food from a store because they don't have any food for their young children who are literally starving to death?

Don't be mislead, when we say that all have sinned we are not saying that all sins are equal only acknowledging that we are less than God. In fact, God can and did kill people without ever sinning. It's impossible for God to sin...but he flooded the world and killed everything living on the land except those in the ark.

Grace is freedom. Freedom to mess up and fix it and not go to hell. Martin Luthor once wrote "Be a sinner and sin boldly, but believe and rejoice in Christ even more boldly." Now, I am not sure I like the idea of boldly defying God but I will boldly defy the Church if I believe it is wrong.

Because Martin Luthor defied the church we have the Bible in our hands today. He launched a revolution that increased the righteousness of all Christianity. Praise God!

I don't agree with Konrad that being Gay is a sin. I believe many Gay people do sin more than straight people but this should be no surprise because they have already been condemned by many to hell and have just accepted that. It makes sense.

I believe the Church is preaching and teaching a perverse gospel that distorts the actual teachings of Jesus (love god, love your neighbor, make disciples) and in effect has chosen some of the practices of the harshest teachers of the law that were so often condemned by Jesus for their wrong judgments on people.

Now, to be fair, I am part of the church so when I say the church, I mean the institutionalized churches that condemn people for who they are more than what they have done.
Being Gay is not a Sin. The sin are those who condemn us who God has wonderfully made
Hi, I've been dying to talk to someone who considers him/herself to be a gay Christian. I'm not here to judge or play God. I have questions.

What do you think of the sc<x>ripture that says "Shall we sin that grace may abound? God forbid" Romans 6:1. Again, I'm not challenging you. I'm just curious since you're the first to actually admit that homosexuality is a sin yet, decide to continue that lifestyle.

I ask about that sc<x>ripture because I have always taken that to mean that a Christian sees the error of his/her ways and changes them because they love the Lord, rather than thinking that they can continue to do what they want and God will just keep forgiving. In other words, I believe that although we can never be perfect and no sin is worse than the next and all can be forgiven, we are not saved if we settle for living in perpetual sin.

I'd ask the same question to a person who is constantly having sex outside of wedlock and convincing themselves that it's ok because they "love the person". Just because it's how we feel in our hearts, does it make it ok in God's eyes? Can we take God's never changing Word and twist it to make it fit our lives? Or should we strive to conform to Him even if it's not the most pleasant thing? Jesus suffered and He tells us to be prepared to do the same.

Can a person call themselves Christian or saved if they say, "Well I live a life of sin that I'm not trying to fight against but God is going to keep forgiving me." Romans 6:1 says "God forbid" we do that. I'm not telling you that you can ever stop desiring the same sex but do you believe that God will continue to forgive the daily act of a homosexual lifestyle? Being married to the same sex etc.?

Again, please don't think I'm preaching to you. These are questions I've wanted to ask for a long time. I don't hate anyone. I have respect for you and I say let Him be judge. I just have a hard time understanding.
Im sure God has no problemns with being married to the same sex as after all Jesus will enter a holy covenant with the Church who will be full of males. My wedding certificate will say my husband is Jesus