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- Posted by wbonesteel 7 (My Page) on Sun, Feb 23, 14 at 21:05
If those are dwarf varieties, using some form of espalier pruning technique might work for those planting distances. Nothing else will work, at those distances, even for dwarf varieties. If those are standard varieties, you've planted them waaaay to close together, no matter how you prune them. An open vase pruning technique might work for dwarf varieties planted at seven or eight feet apart, providing the variety doesn't get more than eight to ten feet or so high, at maturity. That's still mighty close, tho'. Four feet apart? Use espalier. Another option, which I've employed, is to double plant trees in one bed and use a combination of open vase and espalier pruning techniques, but plant the tree beds six or seven yards apart, at a minimum. Unless you want to spend some time keep things pruned back, and hard, and spend a lot of time and money on disease and pest control, you may want to reposition those trees. For example, if a tree grows to be fifteen feet tall at maturity, it will generally be fifteen to twenty feet wide at maturity. If you don't want to keep them pruned back, you will want to plant two such trees about fifteen to twenty feet apart. If a tree is thirty feet tall, the ideal would be a sixty foot distance between two similar trees, etc. and so on. Unless you like to do a lot of spring and/or fall pruning. (I like pruning, myself, but I'm weird that way.) I'm not certain of your intent, here, so that's just what I think. YMMV. Batteries not included. Warren |
thanks for the info Warren. I have been studying and researching High density planting and Im confident in what I have done and plan to do a lot of pruning. As I mentioned I wont allow these trees to be any taller than 7 or 8 feet. They will be the height I want, not what they want. If I fail its no big deal. thanks |
Mike, When I read your initial post, I thought to myself "Oh wow, the pruning it will take to keep those manageable! 'm not fond of pruning so I would go crazy if I had to do the level of pruning that will be required for your high-density orchard. You're a better person than me if you're willing to spend that much time maintaining trees. My fruit trees, which aren't dwarfs, generally are about 20' from each other, but it wasn't because of any great plan.....I just stuck them in open, sunny parts of the yard that had room for a fruit tree. Each tree is about as wide as it is tall. I keep them at about 12' tall, and they are pruned into a lovely bowl shape. In our best fruit year ever, which was either 2009 or 2010, I think, we harvested over 400 lbs. of fruit. Some years they all bloom too early and we lose the fruit to late freezes. Fifteen years later, other yard trees are starting to shade the fruit trees a bit too much although we have limbed up some yard trees to let more sunlight through to the lawn and the fruit trees. Now I'm planting replacements for the fruit trees out in the back garden far away from any possible shade trees. By the time my yard trees are too shaded to produce fruit well, the newer trees out back will be large enough to produce good yields. We do have Mexican plum trees growing in our woodland as understory trees and they generally get enough sunlight to produce a decent crop, so my yard trees may not suffer as much from being shaded as I think they will in a few more years. I would love to have a real orchard with everything neatly planted in nice orderly rows and a tall fence to keep the deer out, but it is unlikely to ever happen. That won't stop me from putting a few trees in the newish (new last year) fenced garden out back though. I already have two fig trees out there. I'd like to add plums, peaches and cherries, but will have to plant all of them in gopher cages because last year the voles journeyed uphill from the woodland and ate the fig tree roots. I saved the tree they loved most, but it was touch-and-go for a while. My favorite tree is the orange tree in a large container and I'd grow it even if it never produced fruit because the aroma of orange blossoms is simply intoxicating. Dawn |
- Posted by wbonesteel 7 (My Page) on Mon, Feb 24, 14 at 8:59
It sounds like an interesting experiment, Mike. keep us updated, will ya? |
I know its seems crazy to do what i am but sometimes you have to push the envelop a little and try new things. In the end if I fail Im only out some time and a little money for the trees. I do have a big enough yard to space them as Tradition tells us to but this plan works better for me. I will keep this post updated. However I did do some thinking last night and I may move the apples. They are in the middle. That would give me 12 feet between rows but I will keep the 4 feet between trees. I dont know yet Im still debating. This tight of spacing will require winter, spring and summer pruning. I am single and have a bunch of free time so thats not much of an issue. Plus oddly I love pruning plants. My inspiration has been Tom Spellman and his videos on Backyard Orchards. It amazing what you can actually do with pruning. I know they are in California where growing is easy and I have taken that into consideration. I also found a lot of information on a concept called Tall- spindle and fruiting wall pruning. Basically the trees are planted on 3 foot centers allowed to reach a desired height. Once they reach that height they are topped and the canopy is kept at around 3 to 3.5 feet creating a Wall of apples. Commercial orchards are starting to adapt this technique because of the huge increase in yields per acre and easy of maintenance. I am by no means a professional but the ideas seems simple and efficient. I dont have a need for bushels of fruit and I dont want to get out the ladder or pole to harvest so this plan seems right for me. Edit= I do think I will move the apples that are in the middle. I think I will move them to the edge of the garden. That will give me about 12 feet between the peach and plum row. The apples would go the opposite direction and form another row that would be about 10 feet from the end of the other rows. I drew it on paper and it should create a nice walk way between all the trees. |
This post was edited by mksmth on Mon, Feb 24, 14 at 16:23
I have a plumcot and it is wonderful if the freezes dont get me. It blooms and harvests early. I am trying to get a aprium and a trilite (peachXplum) they have the same problem i understand but the plumcot is so good i have to try the others |
My peaches and plums tend to bloom too early at least 1 year out of every 3 and the freezes get them, but in the years when the freezes don't get them, they are so incredibly wonderful that it is worth putting up with the bad years. |
- Posted by wbonesteel 7 (My Page) on Mon, Feb 24, 14 at 23:15
I don't think you're crazy, Mike. After you explained yourself and revealed that you'd done your research, I honestly believe that it'll be an interesting experiment. I do think that your adjustment to twelve feet between rows is a wise decision. This early in the planning and planting stages, adjustments are easy and relatively simple. Getting the trees in the right position for an espalier technique (an assumption, on my part) can be tricky, but once the limbs are established in the right position and the 'training' has begun, it gets a lot easier. |
This post was edited by mksmth on Mon, Mar 10, 14 at 14:45
Just an update. Keep in mind the spacing is probably closer than anyone would think it right but I am doing this as a High density planting and size control will be done with summer and winter pruning. Nothing will be more than 6-7 feet tall. The peach and plums rows might end up in Hedge style one day. Havent decided but it may just happen on its own. Everything is leafing out nicely. All except a Red Haven Peach. It was a bare root from tractor supply. It looked Ok in the store. Was bit dehydrated but I thought it was fine. No bud break yet except for a small sucker from the root stock.. the scion cambium is still green but I dont have much hope. When the big box stores put theirs on sale I may get something else. If not Ill wait until next year. I found a Granny smith at Walmart. It was really a freak thing too. I was walking the garden center and they had just gotten about 8-10 trees all for $9.98 each. The Granny smith at the store by my house was not the shape I wanted so I drove to 3 other stores and finally found one that I liked. Mike |
- Posted by luvncannin 7a-panhandle tx (My Page) on Fri, Apr 18, 14 at 9:53
It looks great to me. I might be a little envious. I was supposed to be planting an orchard starting last fall but things made a turn and I had to put it off 1 yr. I look forward to getting fruit trees. how long until that size reaches maturity? Kim |
Hey Kim. I had other things I probably should have used my money on this year. But I came across someone, may have been Tom Spellman that said, The best time to plant fruit trees was 5 years ago.That has really stuck with me so I splurged and got it going. Really though I only have about $120 invested. Im by far an expert so everything im doing is going to be trial and error. I dont plan to push these trees to grow. By that I mean I will provide enough nutrition if they need it to keep them happy and healthy but not so much that the vigor gets out of control. I am thinking by this time 2016 they will be just about the biggest they will ever be allowed to reach. After that I will continue to prune them to size. Mike |
- Posted by luvncannin 7a-panhandle tx (My Page) on Fri, Apr 18, 14 at 12:50
I have a few trees I planted last year that are doing well at the property I gave my son and his bride, peach, pear, and a pecan . They will share with me but I really desire my own space. I enjoy helping the kids but I am respectful that it is theirs. I also have a friend who will give me 20 or pecan as soon as I have a place! I have moved so much I guess its hard to grow roots. Kim I |
- Posted by wbonesteel 7 (My Page) on Sat, Apr 19, 14 at 10:52
Mike, I'm glad you moved them and gave them a bit more space. The new layout, with your pruning plan, is absolutely doable. Looks good. You should have some very nice fruit out of that orchard. |
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A Multitrait–Multisource Confirmatory Factor Analytic Approach to the Construct Validity of ADHD and ODD Rating Scales with Malaysian Children
- Rapson Gomez,
- G. Leonard Burns,
- James A. Walsh,
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Confirmatory factor analysis (CFA) was used to model a multitrait by multisource matrix to determine the convergent and discriminant validity of measures of attention-deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD)-inattention (IN), ADHD-hyperactivity/impulsivity (HI), and oppositional defiant disorder (ODD) in 917 Malaysian elementary school children. The three trait factors were ADHD-IN, ADHD-HI, and ODD. The two source factors were parents and teachers. Similar to earlier studies with Australian and Brazilian children, the parent and teacher measures failed to show convergent and discriminant validity with Malaysian children. The study outlines the implications of such strong source effects in ADHD-IN, ADHD-HI, and ODD measures for the use of such parent and teacher scales to study the symptom dimensions.
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- Title
- A Multitrait–Multisource Confirmatory Factor Analytic Approach to the Construct Validity of ADHD and ODD Rating Scales with Malaysian Children
- Journal
Journal of Abnormal Child Psychology
Volume 33, Issue 2 , pp 241-254
- Cover Date
- 2005-04-01
- 10.1007/s10802-005-1831-1
- Print ISSN
- 0091-0627
- Online ISSN
- 1573-2835
- Publisher
- Kluwer Academic Publishers-Plenum Publishers
- Additional Links
- Topics
- Keywords
- attention-deficit hyperactivity disorder
- oppositional defiant disorder
- confirmatory factor analysis
- multitrait–multimethod matrix
- convergent validity
- discriminant validity
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- Authors
- Rapson Gomez (1)
- G. Leonard Burns (2)
- James A. Walsh (3)
- Nina Hafetz (1)
- Author Affiliations
- 1. School of Behavioural and Social Sciences and Humanities, University of Ballarat, Ballarat, Australia
- 2. Department of Psychology, Washington State University, Pullman, Washington
- 3. Department of Psychology, University of Montana, Missoula, Montana

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New Tutorial
December 9, 2012
I just put together a new Tutorial on Bit Banging and Boolean Math.
The tutorial is called:
Tutorial – Bit Banging and Boolean Math without the Math
It is located at my blog:
Please enjoy, I wrote this as a starting point for the beginner, but the No Math approach can assist the experienced micro-controller programmer as well.
Normally infractions do not
Normally infractions do not incur a beatdown but when you combine an infraction with a stupid title like "new tutorial" then your begging for a beating.
Good metaphor. People
Your info on python is plain
Your info on python is plain wrong:
that has an interactive shell (command line interface) called Idle.
Using Python Idle I can quickly convert between number bases and perform all of the Boolean operations, using the same operators that I use in C or C++.
Wrong info to be posting around. The interactive shell is actually what you get when you run python without any arguments (ie on mac or linux just whacking "python" onto the command line or running python.exe on windows). IDLE is an IDE for python which with default settings loads up its own wrapper of the python shell, one which chucks syntax highlighting in on your putput which is just plain wrong and does not preserve the feng shui of neatly space characters each of a fixed width. IDLE's shell wrapper doesn't work correctly with functions that alter the command line colour or clear it either.
TL/DR. Why on earth would someone give out info that is just blatantly wrong?
If your tutorial is
If your tutorial is incorrect as claimed by 6677 then please delete this post all together. We do not need inaccurate tutorials.
The rest of it is alright,
The rest of it is alright, just his description of what IDLE is.
Stupid name for a tutorial!
There are hundreds of tutorials on this site. If we wanted to we could call all of them "New Tutorial" because they were new at one time.
You may want to rethink the boolean logic that made you think that "New tutorial" was a good name.
If you are not willing to post the tutorial on LMR then post as a weblink to your site.
Well if its a tip/walkthrough/tutorial...
...why post it here in the forums? Forums are for asking questions. You'd be better of reposting it here- http://letsmakerobots.com/node/add/robot-tip and deleting this thread.
No offence about your achievement and I also like a no maths approach to my programming but this isn't logically right to post a tutorial in a forum and I like to be logically correct...


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So, How good is W7's built-in Backup utility?
I'm currently setting up a server for general home tasks such as backups, file storage, downloads etc.. And trying to find a simple program to backup my Win 7 machine to the server. Is the in-built program fine for this? I also want the server to backup the data backed up to a portable HDD, as you know how things can just decide to seize working.
Or has anyone got any ideas of other software that does it easier then the Win7 Backup?
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26th August 2010, 09:27 AM #2
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Never used Windows 7 backup, I use Acronis True Image Home 2010 , but i use to use the free Paragon Backup & Recovery.
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The built in one is very good. You can back up disk image through wifi/network/usb/or whatever you want.
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Why do u have to back-up stuff? Almost everything is backed-up on the world wide web.
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If you haven't been watching Arizona Highways' Emmy-winning TV shows you might not know that Queen Creek has an olive mill, Scottsdale has a renowned glass blower and Cave Creek has a motorcycle museum and a colorful character ready to take you on a tour of it.
And you might not realize that the hat maker who designed toppers for the late world-famous comedian George Burns and the Valley's own Wallace & Ladmo is still creating custom headgear in the north East Valley.
Robin Sewell, who owns the TV rights to use the name of the photo-filled magazine, produces and hosts the weekly tour of the state's hidden treasures.
That includes not only the natural wonders, but the man-made ones too, Sewell said. The show has been a boon to East Valley businesses that may have previously escaped notice.
Rich Glisson, for example, has been making hats for 25 years.
Sewell visited his shop, Heritage Hats, in the first "Arizona Highways" show in early 2004. People who had driven by the sign for years suddenly stopped to watch him make hats, Glisson said. And many of them bought a topper or two. Orders came in from around the country after the TV show was released on DVD, he said.
"It brought me a lot of business, and I still get repeat business from that show," Glisson said. "Most people didn't even know there are still hat makers."
Paolo Soleri's picturesque bronze bell-making operation Cosanti lies hidden behind a cluster of trees on a quiet Paradise Valley street. After an "Arizona Highways" episode, art lovers from near and far found it, said general manager Chris Ohlinger.
"That brought out a lot of people who said they saw it on the show," Ohlinger said. "And many more times than not, when people come here, they leave with a bell."
Sewell said she looks for businesses that are "interesting, historic, the fabric of Arizona, places that have a story."
"Who would have known we have olive groves in Queen Creek? Or that Sanctuary Resort in Paradise Valley cooks with this company's olive oil? Most Arizonans haven't been to three-quarters of the places we highlight," she said. "We can highlight a place like Cosanti for five or six minutes. Who else does that?"
The aim of the show, Sewell said, is to drive people to explore their own state and find the interesting people and businesses that lie undiscovered just around the corner.
"Arizona Highways" started the second half of its fourth season Saturday.
Tuning in
• In the Valley, "Arizona Highways"airs at 6:30 p.m. Saturdays and 11:05 p.m. Sundays on KPNX-TV (Channel 12).


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To Bee Or Not To Bee
Submitted by mdefarge on Sun, 04/14/2013 - 15:24PART I
A flower, fruit, vegetable, herb, or tree
Owes its life to the honeybee;
Maples, sage, beets, berries, and roses,
In turn, feed the bee in ideal symbiosis.
Playing a critical role on the farm,
It's clear the bee must come to no harm.
Plants feed all nature (thanks to the bee) -
Root, stalk, and leaf, fruit, nut, and seed;
They feed human and beast; and,
Through decomposition,
It's how plants themselves acquire nutrition
Along with compost from animals they fed -
An everlasting cycle of endless breadth...
...A garden and farm are not isolated!
With meadow and forest they're interrelated:
Flower, food crop, insect, and herd,
Mushroom, worm, woodland creature, and bird.
Nor do essential exchanges stop there!
Linked is the state of soil, water, and air.
The bee:plant bond, via pollination,
Is tied to the health of all creation!
All kingdoms, in cosmic harmony,
Resonate with the buzz of the honeybee!
HARK! The honeybee is vanishing fast!
Without it? Life as we know it won't last!
At best we'll subsist...living mostly on grain.
It takes the bee to sustain our food chain.
The BEE, once a creature of veneration
Is now at risk of annihilation!
Industrialized farms and beekeeping methods
Are hastening the specie's flight to "bee heaven."
- Toxic herbicides to kill off weeds;
Then, too, less plants on which bees can feed;
- Toxic chemical fertilization;
- Water source contamination;
- Neuro-toxic pesticides;
- Bees artificially super-sized
(An idea to maximize honey yields);
- Unvaried diet from mono-crop fields;
- Corn syrup food substituted for honey
(Another means to save on money);
- Plastic, not natural, boxes and frames -
To a honeybee's senses, not the same;
- Already strained bees trucked across the nation,
Not to mention away from their own habitation;
- Swarms suppressed, viewed as a debit,
Impairing the bee's instinctive habit;
- Nectar over-stolen;
- Too early honey harvest;
- Over-development, less land to forage;
- Soils depleted, nutrient deprivation;
- Numerous causes of deforestation;
- Swarms that now can't find proper trees;
- Mass production of queens;
- Viral disease;
- Bee immune system degradation;
- Asian varroa mite infestation.
Added to such adversity;
- Decreased genetic diversity,
Drones killed off, deemed expendable;
- Climate change, weather undependable -
Winter warmth inside a hive
Can render it a bee graveyard.
IT'S TOO MUCH!!! Could we plan a better scheme
If we were trying to kill off the honeybee?!
There's so much where bees have no natural defense!
And who knows what affects their homing sense!
Who knows what affects the honeybee's dance!
Power currents? Genetically engineered plants?
Afflicted with so many handicaps,
Bee colonies simply suffer collapse.
The plain fact is this:
Bees are not returning
From pollen and nectar-foraging journeys.
Do videnja!
Au revoir!
Bees now, world over, just fly off and die.
No one knows why.
With narrow minded education,
Subjects taught in isolation,
So even a country's scientists
May not know of the crucial bee:plant tryst;
With a bee viewed as a commodity,
Not sentient soul, hive a community;
With soil, water, and air defiled;
With bee-stressing challenges so compiled...
Assault on its body, its food, its hive,
How long can the now-fragile bee survive?
Attacks on the bee have been persistent.
Now at stake is our very existence.
How are we handling this dire crisis?
With further bee-enfeebling devices:
Bees are hauled across states for pollination;
New laws allow honeybee importation -
Yes, like clothes, food, appliances, toys, and tv's,
We now import our country's bees!?
But science thinks it has the solution
To fix weakened honeybee constitution:
Breed with modified African bees in a clinic.
Manipulation of nature
Is what's wrong to begin with!
In order to help the honeybee thrive:
It needs to call home an all-natural hive.
(Wood, clay, and straw are fine bee material.)
Let bees procreate their own leaders imperial.
Let a hive keep its drones! Drones couple with queens
AND also safeguard the colony.
Colony collapse, also foulbrood,
Are diminished when bees eat their natural food.
When smoking a hive - to aid bee respiration
(non-poisonous) sumac's one recommendation.
As to pre-fabricated foundation grids
That take away honeybees' reason to live;
Bees are WORKERS! (and don't report to us!)
Let them BE bees!
From hives, take just surplus.
"What can I do to help?" you ask.
"Reviving the honeybee's no small task!"
Use this list and your imagination to spread awareness!
[ ] Write to newspapers.
[ ] Talk to friends.
[ ] Contact legislators:
o Re: Fostering honeybee re-population
through forest and open space preservation;
o Re: Education on toxic lawn care and
consequence to bee welfare;
o Re: More research to study the situation -
farm methods that need re-evaluation:
to begin with, the practice of mono-crops;
use of toxic products that must be stopped;
genetic engineering - with no means to assess
(or reverse!) maybe far-reaching consequence.
o Re: symposiums with experts whose work is related
to share perspectives and get educated: those in
beekeeping, agriculture, farm/bee technology,
disease control, air and water quality...
o Re: subsidies to help dear beekeepers; and
grants to learn more healthy procedures,
such as proven method of biodynamics.
[ ] It goes without saying: shop organic.
[ ] Contact schools to ensure that Biology
includes the food chain and key role of honeybees.
[ ] Get copies of public tv documentaries:
Tales From The Hive; and Silence of the Bees.
[ ] In masses,
Grow purple, blue, orange, and yellow flowers:
flowering shrubs, trees, and vines on tall bowers.
(Red is hard for bees to spot from above.)
For plants that bees especially love,
contact your county, search the net.
[ ] See that bees' need for fresh water is met.
[ ] Let dandelions be, when they appear.
[ ] Read beekeeper Hubbell's A Country Year.
[ ] Teach children about our wondrous bee!
[ ] "Adopt" a hive at Spikenard sanctuary.
[ ] Don't exterminate unwanted hives!
Call a beekeeper to take them (alive);
to visit an apiary and bee demonstrations;
to book for lectures and presentations.
[ ] Consider part of your bee commission
to advance the idea of more holistic vision.
[ ] BLESS the bee for its pollination,
ensuring us life and earth beautification.
[ ] GIVE THANKS for the gift of the honeybee.
[ ] PRAY for its recovery.
[This was distributed in a course I took.
Permission granted to duplicate.]
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Don't remember when I took this
a couple of summers ago maybe. They swarmed the hummingbird feeder and drained it down within a few hours.
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bump for bees
don't use pesticides in your yard
"All our words are but crumbs that fall down from the feast of the mind." - Khalil Gibran
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We don't need no stinkin' bees.
Correction. they know why but just don't care. They will genetically engineer a substitute insect. Go ahead, ask Monsanto.
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Planning your GARDEN? Please consider honeybees!
Plant flowers & herbs, even trees, for the bees. (The poem provides reasons.) Please plant for three seasons.
Spikenard Farm HoneyBee Sanctuary:
~ What You Can Do
~ ***A Selection of Bee Forage Plants***
~ Don't miss the gallery of photos!
More tips:
Gardening For Bees http://www.buzzaboutbees.net/gardening-for-bees.html
Plant A Bee Garden http://thehoneybeeconservancy.org/act-today-2/plant-a-bee-ga...
Bee Plants http://gardening.about.com/od/attractingwildlife/a/Bee_Plant...
When we try to pick out anything by itself, we find it hitched to everything else in the Universe.
~ John Muir
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A bee bump
There's some really cool stuff going on with bees there
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USDA helping to expedite Monsanto certification of new drug
Thank you for the article (((Granger))). Some of those points made me smile. But some have me here stewing. For one, technology is part of the problem. As to the solution, among some other changes in farming practices, we need to return to *natural beekeeping* - not confound the issue w/more technology.
But talk about letting a fox into the henhouse. And the irony. Now that Monsanto and other makers and/or pushers of pesticides & herbicides & genetically-engineered plants have helped to set the honeybee (& other pollinators) on a path towards extinction... Monsanto wants to be the hero and *save* the honeybee... with ITS VACCINES. And yeah, LIKE MONSANTO NEEDS HELP!!!
"The US Department of Agriculture has been accompanying Beeologics with its FDA certification process due to the urgency of the need for the drug."
When we try to pick out anything by itself, we find it hitched to everything else in the Universe.
~ John Muir
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The gall of Monsatan to divert attention away from
their precious Clothianidin pesticide. Monsatan only bought Beelogics to put up a smoke screen in front of the real problem, their GMO pesticides.
It's probably going to take a real disaster to get neonicotinoids banned, which could happen any year. There are only 2.5 million bee hives left in the US, and the almonds in California require 2 million bee hives. 1 poor winter could easily wipe out half of the bees, it's happened in the past many times.
My hope is the almond growers would squeal like little pigs, and force the EPA to address the issue.
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I don't know (((((mdefarge)))))
I think technology can be a two edge sword. I personally don't know anyone with a vedetta against honey bees (and I've deathly alergic).
I gave you one link, but it's amazing what that little country is doing with apriculture:
I have swarms of bees here, but mendo has been Genticically modified free by law since 2004.
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Would those who have personally seen a decline
in their area please post the general area, or if someone is familiar with a study where this information is plotted.
In my area, east Texas, I have more bees (all kinds) than I've seen in years. Could this be migration?
Any thoughts are welcome.
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Re honeybee decline by state and county
That's a great topic for discussion! Re states, from the news or documentary Silence of The Bees, I'm aware of the extreme problems in California re almonds and Maine re blueberries. And I know from a local nursery and gardening friends in New York's Hudson Valley that bees have been on the decline there - at least on the western side of the river. Your comment sent me looking to see what patterns might exist across the United States. And, well, I'm going to continue looking, but it seems to be easier said than done!
In a couple different articles from a few years back I saw a reference to "24 states" that have suffered alarming rates of decline, but I haven't yet been able to locate the study that must have come from. And while it's pretty obvious that a major factor in what is reported about CA and ME is mono-cropping, not all of California is experiencing a decline. Granger pointed out that in her county there isn't a problem. That's Mendocino, hmm, the first to ban GMO's (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mendocino_County_GMO_Ban) - which are associated with heavy pesticide use aside from what direct effects on bees they might have. And I know that honeybees are thriving in Virginia at Spikenard Bee Sanctuary. But there, it's a biodynamic farm employing natural beekeeping methods. I have no idea how representative it is for the state or even that general area. (https://spikenardfarm.org/)
Given what you said about the area where you live in eastern Texas, where bees seem to be doing well, I was curious about Texas as a whole. According to the Texas Masters Gardening Association: "Development and pesticides have ravaged Texas bees..." (http://txmg.org/resources/pollinators/the-trouble-with-bees/)
I guess the bees in each given locale need to overcome different challenges - all the issues reflected in the poem. It sure would be interesting to see a chart for each county correlating bee health with weather conditions, % forested land, population density, pesticide regulations re agriculture and lawncare, etc., etc. It doesn't look like the EPA has anything of the sort. I wonder if any states - or local beekeepers associations - have put the issue under a microscope like that.
When we try to pick out anything by itself, we find it hitched to everything else in the Universe.
~ John Muir
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I always though the honeybee should be the symbol of
The honeybee hurts no one and only attacks in self defense. It only takes what is freely given in exchange for the service of pollination, and what it takes does not hurt the giver. Honeybees exhibit cooperative decentralized behavior (the queen does not really control the workers) and leave the world a better place.
What better symbol could we ask for?
"All our words are but crumbs that fall down from the feast of the mind." - Khalil Gibran
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If your using weed and feed to kill dandelions please stop
Bees need all the forage they can find especially in the spring. Don't use any pesticides or herbicides on your lawn, and consider planting some bee friendly flowers and plants.
Remember, every time you use this junk it's money in Monsatans pocket!
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Makes more sense to eat the
Makes more sense to eat the dandelion greens than it does to poison it.
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"An insecticide-infection connection in bee colony collapses -
Researchers discover a common insecticide shuts down a key immune protein in bees." Oct. 21, 2013 http://arstechnica.com/science/2013/10/an-insecticide-infect...
Perhaps these new findings will have an influence on the apparent plans of some chemical companies to sue to block the ban of these neonicotinoids in the European Union.
"Bee deaths: EU to ban neonicotinoid pesticides" April 29, 2013
P.S. So... it's been shown that these chemicals thwart the immune system of bees and other insects, making them vulnerable to infection. The same for mammals that were tested. But don't worry. I'm sure that those findings would have no bearing on the effect of neonicotinoids on the immune system of that class of mammal called human beings!
When we try to pick out anything by itself, we find it hitched to everything else in the Universe.
~ John Muir
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Let there be no confussion
nothing is causing bee deaths like the neonicotinoid pesticides. I have kept bees all the way back to the early 70's, and never seen a problem like this one.
I learned to live with the Varroa and Tracheal mites, by using selective breeding to get the bees to kill the mites themselves. A bonus to this is they are so good at housekeeping that they cleanup American Foulbrood on their own also. The key was selecting only very hygenic bees for raising Queens and Drones. BTW that part of selecting for no drones is non-sense for Commercial beekeepers. We want the bees to be happy and will help them do what makes them happy. this mean letting the bees have as many drones as they want, which helps them stay healthy. I would purposely put junk combs in so the bees don't destroy new combs raising drones.
I had planned on running 500 to 700 beehives by now. I was well on my way in 2007 with a good start of 300 and enough equipment to start another 100. Now I am down to 7 hives and all my dreams of being a commercial beekeeper are lost forever, as I am 64 and know I am wasting my time.
Monsatan has destroyed all bees, birds and all wildlife all the way up to the White tail deer. Even the fish are dying out in the streams and rivers in this area according to a company that catches and sells minnows.
Everyone in the EPA and Monsatan knows they are poisoning the bees they are stalling as long as they can for profits plan and simple.
Dave Hackenburg explains: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MyOanJ_bifo
Beekeepers suing the EPA : http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/03/22/beekeepers-sue-epa-ove...
Jeffery Smith confirms what I already know: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rEbQuWM_ibM
What happens when others like me decide to just giveup, we are to old to start over?
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Please don't say your dreams are lost
or that it's just a waste of time. And you are not too old to start over. Are you familiar with Spikenard Bee Sanctuary? It was founded by Gunther Hauk...
After Gunther "retired" as a teacher, he founded the Pfeiffer Center (Spring Valley, New York) - a biodynamic farm and education center. I don't know if you're familiar with biodynamic farming & gardening, but it's pretty amazing, a means of organic agriculture that not only doesn't put anything toxic into the soil but *restores* the soil. I took the course, and one of the subjects covered was beekeeping - primarily how I became aware of the honeybee crisis and also "natural beekeeping."
[I don't want to get off the point, but I highly recommend the documentary One Man, One Cow, One Planet. It discusses the horrific situation in India - for which there is now a ray of hope!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_uhVUbABCpI ]
Gunther developed the Pfeiffer Center and successfully ran the course for ten years (one weekend/month Fall through Spring, with various guest lecturers). Then he "really" retired. Nope, not yet!
From there, he and his wife moved to Illinois, where - again, all from scratch - they started another farm and founded Spikenard Bee Sanctuary. Then the area was hit with flooding. Well, they apparently dealt with all kinds of problems there, having to face the fact that it just wasn't working out as they'd envisioned. Well, by then Gunther was well into his retirement years. Guess it was time to...
START OVER AGAIN! They went in search of a better environment for a bee sanctuary and ended up in Virginia. Starting from scratch again, Spikenard is now a thriving, and beautiful, bee sanctuary and education center.
So, beeman, let me introduce you to one of your fellow beekeepers, Gunther Hauk:
Biodynamic Beekeeper Gunther Hauk on the Honeybee Crisis
Re the honeybee crisis, I did see the documentary "The Vanishing Bees." (I bought a copy I passed around, but it's now on line.) http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewvideo/132932/Silence_of_th...
I haven't yet seen "Queen of the Sun" except for clips. Gunther was among the beekeepers that were interviewed. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYk8M2t-T0Q
And here is Spikenard. Under "The Bees," click on "Gallery" and start the slideshow. The photos are EXQUISITE! https://spikenardfarm.org
I do understand what you're saying - how deadly the impact has been from neonicotinoids. The good news... and sort of the PROOF... is that in places like Italy where they were temporarily banned, the bees CAME BACK the following year. (In that area in China, it was too late, the whole environment just too polluted from pesticides.) But learning what I have, I do believe that there are numerous stresses on bees that have been contributing to their having been weakened - with neonicotinoids just the last nail in the coffin. People really do need to change how we view the honeybee - and all that we take for granted that sustains us.
Well, beeman, as Gunther said, our very lives depend on beekeeping. That's people like you. I do hope you don't lose that dream. :)
P.S. Thank you for those links. I've listened to Jeffery Smith before. He explains things well.
When we try to pick out anything by itself, we find it hitched to everything else in the Universe.
~ John Muir
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Europe Bans Pesticides Thought Harmful to Bees
When we try to pick out anything by itself, we find it hitched to everything else in the Universe.
~ John Muir
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Thanks so much for the link
I needed some good news. It's so fascinating how the big chemical companies say they will do more research, and there was no need to ban the pesticides. Have they forgotten they have had over ten years to do more research but instead just sat on their butts and did nothing.
I can guarantee everywhere the ban is in place bees will rebound very fast. Most beekeepers have learned to live with the mites in the bee hive, that is no longer a major problem.
The real problem is the pesticide buildup in the combs of the beehive, which will poison new bees installed on deadout equipment. Beekeepers used to save their combs for over 20 years with no problems, but now we need to replace them every 3 to 5 years. That is a very high price to pay to stay in business as a beekeeper. Every comb takes up to 12 LBS of honey to build up, just imagine when honey easily sell for $3 an $4 per LB. Now multiply time 18 for each bee hive, $36X18=$648 is real money. I call it my Monsatan tax, which I must pay every 5 years. If we could some how deduct this loss from our taxes then something may be done.
Beekeepers can not survive like this we need help in stopping the insanity.
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Yes, that pesticide ban is good news.
And it's about time. There is laboratory-proven Cause & Effect between neonicotinoids and the honeybee's brain, body, and behavior. I 100% support that ban! - for the sake of bees AND human health. So many foods contain High Fructose Corn Syrup, and 94% of corn seed uses neonicotinoids. God only knows what effect that is having on people.
But, I was trying to see if the chemical companies would now try to sue the European "EPA" for this ban, and I came across this article. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-22339191
YES, we need to have that neonicotinoid ban! Yet this would seem to support what I was saying, that there are *multiple factors* involved:
"We have two controls for all of this. One is France; we've had massive restrictions on these products for over 10 years, have we seen any improvement in bee health? No.
"The other control is Australia where neonicotinoids are used in exactly the same way as in the UK, same formula same crops and they have the healthiest bees on the planet. The difference there is they don't have varroa."
No different than with people, when bees have multiple negative forces working on them, it could be anything they succumb to in the end. I'd like to know, what's up with France?
1) what did they replace the neonicotinoids with?! (That's one of the "arguments" against the ban - that something worse might be used. How about we do sufficient testing *before* allowing a toxic chemical into the ecosystem!)
2) What are their standard beekeeping practices?
3) What kind of agriculture predominates? Namely, how much of the land is mono-cropped.
4) How developed is the area being studied? Are there still forests and wildlife in the region?
5) What is the quality of the air and water? *Possibly*, it's just TOO LATE. That's what happened in one area of China; there, the soil had already become too contaminated. But also, I'd want to know
6) exactly what was banned and where. I believe there have only been "partial" restrictions to date. That might not be enough.
But also, the same questions need to be raised for Australia - representing the opposite case, i.e., where (apparently) honeybees are doing okay despite the fact they USE neonicotinoids the same as in the UK. The article said that, there, they don't have the Varroa mite - which is known to cause deadly viral infections. Yes, surely bees not weakened in *that* way would be better able to withstand other stresses, e.g., pesticides. But why *are* their bees resistant to that mite? All the same types of questions as above need to be asked. *Something* must be accounting for the difference. Someone needs to be figuring that out. And P.S. It doesn't exonerate the chemical companies - just because (due to unrelated factors) some bees are able to overcome the bodily abuse!
I'm glad you came across the article about the ban. I was so happy about it, too. I don't know if you've had a chance to check out some of the links in my comment above. I've never been to Spikenard Bee Sanctuary myself, but those pictures are so beautiful, so inspiring - just as the gardens at the Pfeiffer Center were. You can tell from the video clip that Gunther Hauk is significantly older than you. I'm hoping you'll want to continue with your work, continually trying different things.
Incidentally, when I took the course at the Pfeiffer Center, this is the book that the beekeeper recommended: http://www.amazon.com/Natural-Beekeeping-Organic-Approaches-...
"...Specific concepts and detailed management techniques are covered in a matter-of-fact, easy to implement way. Natural Beekeeping describes opportunities for the seasoned professional to modify existing operations to improve the quality of hive products, increase profits, and eliminate the use of chemical treatments. Beginners will need no other book to guide them. Whether you are an experienced apiculturist looking for ideas to develop an Integrated Pest Management approach or someone who wants to sell honey at a premium price, this is the book you've been waiting for."
Hmm. It looks like amazon only carries the Kindle Edition. Well, I know the book is also available directly from the author: http://www.dancingbeegardens.com/Books.php
Well, you have a nice day, beeman. :)
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What's going on just breaks my heart.
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Thank you for that link. It breaks my heart, too.
I was wondering where the Harvard Microbiotics Lab got its funding and then noticed at the end of the clip that it was produced by Wyss Institute for Biologically Inspired Engineering, one of Hansjörg Wyss' foundations. Wyss, a Harvard alum, is a billionaire entrepreneur and environmentalist/philanthropist apparently on the board of, and contributor to, The Center for American Progress - the George Soros-funded organization. That's Soros who owns $312.6 million in MONSTANTO stock. Actually, Wyss used to work for Monsanto. Another billionaire keen on Robotics is Bill Gates, whose funding helped to launch CAP and who owns $23 million in MONSANTO stock. Small world, isn't it?
Billionaire cronies are financially vested in practices DESTROYING THE HONEYBEE & NATURAL ENVIRONMENT... and also... MARKETABLE HI-TECH REPLACEMENTS.
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The course I took convinced me
of a few things. FYI, it was a course on biodynamic farming & gardening, which is a form of organic gardening. One of the subjects covered was beekeeping, with a presentation and visit to the farm's hives. (A few people chose to do their projects on bees - starting a hive, testing bee boxes, writing about the current situation...)
First, not just from the "beekeeping day" but the course in general, I think everyone was impressed with how things are interconnected, i.e., the first part of that poem: all the crops, animals, and people on the farm itself; what lay beyond the farm; and what was beneath and above - the quality of the soil, water, and air. Truly, if we are to save the vanishing honeybee, that is, if we are to preserve our FOOD CHAIN, it *will* require looking at things more holistically.
Second, related to that, so many people are unaware of the importance of bees to not just our economy but our survival - well, life as we know it, life with more to eat than just grains. I remember there was a 9th Grade biology teacher taking the course. He said that when the NY State Regents Board changed the name and curriculum from "biology" to "living environments," one of the things to GO was the FOOD CHAIN. (He continued to teach it, regardless.)
And I don't know if you saw the film "Silence of the Bees," but I was dumbstruck in the part where this Penn State bee researcher realized that something was amiss with bees' immune system, akin to AIDS. So he contacted those at a NY university focused on disease research, to more or less compare notes. One of those (PhD's) he'd contacted admitted that the only thing he'd known about bees was that they made HONEY. (Hey, we could all live without honey, right?) This *well educated* individual, in the field of SCIENCE, the biological sciences, had not known the role that bees played in the pollination of flowering plants - those flowers that will yield apples, tomatoes, almonds...
Really, I'd thought that bees as pollinators was "common knowledge." Guess not! But in that case, I found it particularly odd given that bees are an integral part of the FOOD CHAIN, when the nature of the FOOD we ingest is related to HEALTH - or the lack thereof, i.e., DISEASE. Our higher education system creates narrow-mindedness, everyone a specialist. WHO, if anyone, is looking at THE BIG PICTURE? And, okay, so if scientists might not be aware of the role honeybees play within our ecosystem, with consequences to human health, indeed, life... how about members of Congress? If we lose are honeybees, this country will be in DEEP TROUBLE. But as one beekeeper at a recent conference noted: people think food comes from stores.
Not that it will help the immediate crisis, but we need to reinstate some core body of knowledge such that every educated adult would at least be aware of (a la E.D.Hirsch), the BASICS in each discipline. (Higher education started to change in this regard about 50 years ago.) We also need more INTER-DISCIPLINARY education vs. everything taught as if each area of study (each area of LIFE) existed in a void.
Third, with that course putting "honeybees" (and other pollinators) on my "radar," I'm fully convinced of the severity of the problem and rather dire consequences if we don't get a grip here. Soon.
Lastly, I became fully convinced that WE CAN REVERSE THIS TREND!!! While you can't usually call it organic beekeeping, since farmers or gardeners don't necessarily have control over the area in which bees forage, at least what could be called "natural beekeeping" has PROVEN TO BE SUCCESSFUL at raising HEALTHIER BEES. One such example is the Spikenard Bee Sanctuary in Virginia. (Our class chose to "adopt" a hive there.)
And while there are places, such as in one Chinese province (known for its pears), where honeybees are gone for good *despite* the fact they banned the pesticide that had killed them off, there are other success stories, where it wasn't too late. For ONE, in Italy, the year after a neonicotinoids ban, their bee populations were greatly restored. [Congress was informed; that was three years ago.]
Well, we COULD reverse this terrible trend IF we were willing to CHANGE some of what has become STANDARD OPERATING PROCEDURE on farms and within the beekeeping industry. And in addition to looking at things more holistically - more broadly, we'd also need to have some LONG-TERM vision, looking further down the road than the next quarter's (or crop season's) profit and loss statement.
While I'm neither a farmer nor beekeeper, I do now know that - just like with humans! - bees need a VARIED DIET, and that MONO-CROPPING is a problem. It's surely no coincidence that two areas suffering EXTREME bee loss are MAINE re blueberry crops and CALIFORNIA re almonds. In that recent Dan Rather news report re bees vis a vis the almond industry (on another thread here), you can see giant swaths of land with JUST almond trees, as far as the eye can see. (The CA almond industry provides 80% of the world's supply.) It's not that "varied diet" is the only things bees need, the LACK of a varied diet the only challenge. But with the MULTIPLE challenges, who knows what will be the straw that breaks the camel's back. I had to wonder if those almond farmers had tried delegating some of that land to the growing of OTHER flowering plants/crops so as to provide their bees with BETTER NUTRITION that would help strengthen them. I have no idea if it's been tried. But if I were in the almond industry, I'd be trying EVERYTHING.
As you can see, hawkiye, this issue is really a "bee in my bonnet." Thank you for your comment on the post and the bump for the bees.
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With the money the almond growers spend on renting bees they could hire a bee keeper to raise bees on their property and plant diverse bee forage in and around their orchards fro probably a fraction of the cost. Of course they would have to quit using the pesticides and they way they grow I am not sure if their orchards are sustainable without pesticides now. That is why it is so hard to get these guys to change. Its like heroin they are addicted to an unsustainable model that is harming the planet and risk a catastrophic failure in the food supply and cant kick the habit so just like an addict who can't kick it they will probably die as almond growers.
I saw that region in China with the pears. I wonder why they cannot reintroduce bees if they have stopped using the pesticides? That is our future if we do not change!
You need to get you some bees the connection with them is amazing!
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Mono- cultures are the problem corn, soybeans, or almonds
When I hauled bees to the almonds for pollination. I had to remove the hives to an area that had bee forage after the bloom was over. If they stayed in the almond groves too long they run the risk of starvation. I usually trucked my bees all the way to Texas straight from the almond groves.
Here in Minnesota the corn is worthless to the bees for forage, but now the corn pollutes all the weeds close by. They have been testing the weeds for years for genetic changes, and they know the weeds are picking up the genetic material from the corn. I used to read about it in the American Bee Journal.
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That China case should be a
wake up call that there IS a point of no return. Too much pesticides and the soil can become permanently contaminated. Also, pesticides don't just kill "pests" but also "beneficial insects." Worms, beetles, etc., and micro-organisms in the soil form their own microcosm that keeps the soil ALIVE and aerated and healthy. As they're killed off, the soil becomes dead and compacted. (That's what's happened in India because of the genetically-engineered bt cotton. I have to believe it was also the case in China.) With nutrients less and less available from healthy soil, there is an increasing need for chemical fertilizers - which doesn't exactly help the soil to be re-enlivened! It just all spirals downward. I believe there is a difference in plants fed by organic materials vs. chemicals, perhaps something bees can sense. Yes, that's our future if we don't change. You're right. I'd love to live where I could keep a hive. Maybe one day. :)
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So, all but one of my roses are DEAD. Just the Morden Belle survived, with ONE cane coming up.... sigh! Look: Otherwise, Morden Sunrise, Morden Blush and Pink Peace all RIP and have been RIPPED UP!!! :-( Anyway, let's see what this one cane wonder will do. Otherwise, I may just replace it with some REALLY hardy rugosa like Therese Bugnet or Hansa!!! My clematis did even worse. One died (Earnest Markham) so I had that replaced. My Huldine has some very slow growth - just about 2 inches so far! But at least it is growing..... look at this Jackmanii Superba - there is NOTHING super about it: Do you see that teeny little bit of green just to the bottom right hand corner of those dried stems?! That has been sitting like that for the last couple of weeks!!!!!!!!!!! I am losing my patience rapidly and am thinking that I should just replace it.... should I? Or should I just be a patient gardener here!? Sigh.... |
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Sorry about your roses. But Therese Bugnet is a superb rose, so if you go that route then you will have a winning rugosa, that doesn't look "coarse" like most other rugosas. Hansa is as tough as they come, but it does have that coarse look... I'd be patient on those clematis for awhile yet. My J. Superba is now 6 feet tall, but it is in a very protected spot. Give yours some water, some fertilizer, it's growth could take off. I have a couple Ville de Lyon... one of which is growing well, about 2' tall with numerous stems, but the other is sluggish, maybe 0.5' tall and really just emerging. Too early to pull the plug on clematis! |
The clematis i have in sunnier areas are doing quite well - Nelly Moser is about 2 feet tall and Pope John Paul II is 3 or more feet high now. By contrast, Durandii, Multiblue, Little Duckling and General Sikorsky are barely poking out of the ground. My notoriously slow Ville de Lyons is a no-show so far. As far as roses go, several years ago it seemed that Henry Kelsey was a goner and when i dug him out i found Henry Junior growing from a root! I babied him along for the summer and then planted him in his current location and he has flourished ever since then! |
My non-alpina clematises came out just this week. I find they're always quite late. |
- Posted by Donna.in.Sask 2b (My Page) on Wed, Jun 11, 14 at 14:13
I am thinking all my clematises are dead. No sign of green growth at all. These are establishes plants, must have been a harsh winter for them (but then, what winter isn't harsh in SK? lol). |
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Ostrich: my heart goes out to you...winter and spring conditions in Alberta can be ruthless...I've lived in northwestern Alberta most of my life...the climate here is very similar to southern Alberta (I lived in Lethbridge for a couple of years)...chinooks during the winter...plant dessicating conditions to the end of May...the only significant difference is that we are 5 degrees C colder on any given day than in Lethbridge...wind conditions are similar as it is prairie here...this has been my first hand experience and observation over a lifetime. The real question you have to ask yourself is "How much effort do I want to invest to create my Eden?" There have been successful rose growers in the past...from all over Alberta...but guaranteed they had to find a system that worked for them...and guaranteed they had experiences just like you have had this year. Even the wonderful rose breeder, Robert Erskine(breeder of Prairie Peace and Madelaine's Choice) from Rocky Mountain House, had devastating experiences (from weather to rodents)...wiping out years of work in a single season. I've come to the general conclusion that the system you develop to grow roses is more important than the rose selection...for example, the hybrid teas Accapella and Illusion can be grown in with hardier roses IF you have a system . Also many OLD Garden Roses (typically Zone 4) thrive the same way...e.g Mme Plantier, Rose de Recht, and Alba semi-plena. Expose these roses to a normal winter without protection and they will look like a rhubarb plant in March...a mound of brown, dead plant material. Give these adequate protection and they thrive. One can persue growing early prairie bred roses if the above approach is unsuitable for you...some of the breeder's selections I can recommend are from: Robert Erskine Many of the cultivars these gentlemen created are exquisite specimens...become large bushes over time. They have survived the acid test of our prairie climate. A great description of these roses and the breeders can be found in the publication "The Rosemakers" by Harry McGee 2010...Published by National-Roses-Canada. Don't give up...be patient...and give yourself a time frame of 10 yrs with whatever system you chose...anything less is unrealistic in this climate as plants grow slowly. Good Luck! |
Thanks, everyone, for listening to my whining! :-) I am going to water and baby these clematis a bit more and see what happens.... As for roses, rosecavalier, you are so right. This is very harsh climate for roses, and if I am to continue, I need to find my own system. For now, I will just go with some very hardy roses, if necessary, like the rugosas. Then I will decide if I am dedicated enough to try something more adventurous! Thanks again. |
- Posted by TanlineTracey (My Page) on Thu, Jun 12, 14 at 10:38
Ostrich I feel bad for you. Every year I'm also saddened when I lose things. Morden belle looked like a goner for me but has now really got going. She's in her 2nd year so I wasn't sure. Therese is my favorite. I like her so much I now have 5. Just so dependable and literally no work. I know to some she may be boring but every northern gardener should have this rose. I bought two red leaf roses the other day just because of their hardiness and foliage. William Baffin has also been a new favorite, zero die back in its 2nd year so I got another. I hate throwing away hundreds of dollars yearly in things I hope will return the next year. But I'm a sucker and bought 6 hybrid teas this year because I like the variety. Good luck with your gardening. |
- Posted by rosecavalier 3 AB (My Page) on Thu, Jun 12, 14 at 10:58
I didn't mention that many of those PRAIRIE bred roses are not sold in local nurseries...but look at it as an adventure and research project...takes a bit of digging...but in the end it may have a story attached...which makes the rose that much more special. Ostrich...if you want an interesting rugosa, try Wild Edric...available bareroot from Hortico and Pickering...bred in England and released in 2005...turning out to be a winner in all aspects...order early...before October. Photo...Hansa on left, Wild Edric on right |
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"Apple has a great ecosystem, but that's created to keep people on their hardware. Not the other way round," he said.
Xiaomi has been valued at up to $10 billion, while Tencent, China's largest Internet company by revenue, has a market capitalisation of $88.6 billion.
Baidu, the owner of the country's biggest search engine, is worth $49.5 billion while the impending IPO of Alibaba, the country's leading e-commerce company, may value the firm at more than $100 billion.
Tencent's social messaging app WeChat is used by over half of all Chinese smartphone users and Alibaba's Taobao is one of the world's top 20 most visited websites. Sina Corp's (SINA.O) Weibo is the dominant microblogging platform, making it hard for Xiaomi to compete in all these segments, Clendenin said.
"If Lei believes that creating a great phone and then trying to use it as a Trojan horse to dethrone Tencent and similar companies, I think he's got quite a battle ahead of him," he added.
(Editing by Miral Fahmy)
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