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Hunt for food ...no food , no eat ....use a single shot gun ...no pumps or auto loaders....necessity is a great teacher....instructions and gun fit help too....Steve S
Hunt for food ...no food , no eat ....use a single shot gun ...no pumps or auto loaders....necessity is a great teacher....instructions and gun fit help too....Steve S
Jacduck...That sounds great....U payin for me to get there? (wink, wink)
Sorry, I just had to order 2 more cases of ammo so money is short, plus CC (da boss lady) just went and bought her non-resi license here in TX after we saw 10,000 geese spread among 3 different fields that we control. She is excited cause she can always M-T her gun at anything and that really costs me more than my sons did. We also found one of our ponds full of pintails so we are up early in the morning.
In all seriousness a snow goose hunt improved my shooting greatly and as a youngster I ended up at the 21 yard line in handicap trap so I was already an okay shooter. At the goose hunt on the Katy Prairie here in TX 8 of us got 162 geese one morning. Pheasants often stump me though, too much tail.
John C aka jacduck
So you want to make MNH a special dog? To get invited 5 Master passes in fiscal year every year at 80% success. 5 of 6 = 83 % 6 of 8 = 75%
Minimum of 10 total passes in career (would hold out the young hot shot dogs who really might be not ready but are being pushed) with a 75% pass rate maintained to qualify for invitation.
"Duck hunter's minds are like concrete. All mixed up and permanently set."
right handed? duck in left hand head forward feet down held by the "armpits". shotgun in right hand held by pistol grip finger along side of not inside trigger guard and resting on right shoulder. swing duck back and step into and smooth underhand throw. Some say like throwing a horse shoe. at moment of release of bird pivot right wrist bringing gun off shoulder and slaming it onto waiting open left hand in one swell foop. You will be aiming at bird you just tossed. wait 3 wing beats, pull trigger. easy, breezy, Beautiful !
"So what is big is not always the Trout nor the Deer but the chance, the being there. And what is full is not necessarily the creel nor the freezer, but the memory." ~ Aldo Leopold
"The Greatest Obstacle to Discovery is not Ignorance -- It is the Illusion of Knowledge" ~ Daniel Boorstin
"i guess the old saying 'those of us that think we know everything annoy those of you that does' " --bobbyb 9/13/06
"A Good Dog is a Good Dog"
when practicing your gun mount with tape on a mirror, start out very slow and precise. Gradually increase the speed as it gets comfortable. what you are doing is training your arms to work together. the grip for shooting trap or skeet is different than for shooting international skeet or hunting. tight grip on the fore end of the gun, light grip on the pistol grip. once you master mounting on the tape, the next step is tracking the edge of the ceiling and wall as you mount your gun, (as if following a pheas>) practice 100 times a night, (per international skeet coach) also have someone check your gun fit, and pattern it so you know where it is shooting when you point it. Good luck
Shooting is something that has to become instinctual. Way to much practice is still not enough. If shooting skeet (for hunting practice) i like to use a hand thrower. Sure it is more work but i never know where it is going to go, and no two are the same. also i have to agree that you practice like you play. Gun down and resting then "pull" and shoot.
The whole eye thing is crazy. Im a neither eye dominant person my self. but i never think about it, i just shoot. You think you miss. I think it is in the movie "the patriot" aim small miss small. Dont think just shoot.
Benjamin Fain
Start shooting sporting clays and ask for advice from the better shooters at your club, most guys are very willing to help. Sporting clays is the best practice for the types of shots you will see when hunting.
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is sporting clay were the shooter walks a rout or path from spot to spot and targets come out?
"So what is big is not always the Trout nor the Deer but the chance, the being there. And what is full is not necessarily the creel nor the freezer, but the memory." ~ Aldo Leopold
"The Greatest Obstacle to Discovery is not Ignorance -- It is the Illusion of Knowledge" ~ Daniel Boorstin
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I'm in a rut.....I'd like to see how much I can lose before Thanksgiving while staying very strict on carbs and calories between now and Wednesday night. I need friendship and accountability.
Atkins - Anyone interested in starting a mini challenge??View Full Version : Anyone interested in starting a mini challenge?? zay 11-16-2012, 12:24 PM I'm in a rut.....I'd like to see how much I can lose before Thanksgiving while staying very strict on carbs and calories between now and Wednesday night. I need friendship and accountability. Anyone?? jdennis84 11-16-2012, 12:42 PM Hello, my name is Jen. I would love to join u in this challenge.. How would we do this? I'm just starting my weight loss... I've reduced my calorie intake to 1500. And work out about 3-4x per week. So, what do we do first? zay 11-16-2012, 01:12 PM Hi Jen! I am starting today at 301.5. I am tracking my food on my daily plate and will post my menu, calories, carbs and weight. I intend to check in at least twice per day ...(morning and night) . Anyone else??? This is for 7 full days for me (this morning through Thursday morning) geoblewis 11-16-2012, 01:12 PM I'm in! My calories are at 1750 and carbs are at 25 gm net. Thanks for starting this, Zay! zay 11-16-2012, 02:51 PM Hello again Jen and hello Geo! Thanks for joining the challenge. I'm up in weight. My lowest weight (in about 6 years) was 292 about a month ago. Been having a rough month :) My desired diet is under 1500 calories and under 30 carbs. I going to do Net too. Today I've only had protein and fat...trying to get into ketosis. How are you two doing? geoblewis 11-16-2012, 03:24 PM I have been reading up on ketosis this last week. I have never used the Ketostix before but I just got some on Amazon this morning and will use them when they arrive. I'm a type 2 and have PCOS so eating very low carb is what I have to do, no matter what it's called! I had gotten down to 286 lbs (for about 2 hours I think) back in June, but then I went on vacation and lost my focus. I gained back up to 302 lbs very quickly. It freaked me out, but I know it was all water and glycogen replacement. I'm at 297 lbs this morning. Had a lovely little breakfast of 2 Applegate Farms savory turkey breakfast sausage and 2 scrambled eggs cooked in olive oil, plus a little cream in my coffee. Just finished a workout at my fitness studio. Not sure what I'm having for lunch yet. davematthewsband 11-16-2012, 07:53 PM I will join too! My mini challenge is to be officially back in ketostis by Thanksgiving. So I will be at 20 carbs or under and will be tracking in my app. I am also making a mini goal of rejoining the local gym before Thanksgiving. I keep saying I'm going to - but have yet to walk in. Now is the time! jdennis84 11-16-2012, 08:09 PM Hello... Today had been crazy... So much running around to do... With a 9 month old.. I didn't have time to eat past lunch. My calorie intake today has been 700. I had oatmeal for breakfast and 10 breaded chicken nuggets with a serving of French fries.... I was planning a dinner of chicken breast/broccoli and rice.... But its getting late. I may just have a bowl of sliced strawberrys in milk. zay 11-16-2012, 08:20 PM Hey DMB and jdennis! Thanks for joining. I like your goal DMB...me too...back in ketosis - its the only way I feel in control. I haven't had any veggies today and I don't like not having any. This means no more nuts for me. Too high calories and carbs. Kinda feels like sludge - all of the eggs and burger patties. I'm going to add in my veggies tomorrow and will stick to 20 carbs NET. Today so far (and Im' finished for the day) eggs (several throughout the day) mayo gr sirloin patties nuts pork rinds 1539 calories - 22 carbs - 18 net carbs - 89 protein Have a good night all! zay 11-16-2012, 08:22 PM Geo, how did you do the rest of the day? Seems we are close in stats. My highest was last summer at 331. I've managed to take some off but not quick enough for me! :) geoblewis 11-16-2012, 10:18 PM I had a meeting at work that lasted till later in the afternoon, so I missed lunch. My son and I just got home from an early dinner at our favorite Thai restaurant, a big bowl of Tom Ka Kai soup and chicken satay with peanut sauce. Not sure how to track those carbs and calories, so I won't even try. I'm done eating for the night. So it's the weekend. What have you all got planned to stay on track? I've got a lot of housework to get done and I'm hoping I'll be too busy to notice that I want to get snacky or cave in to whatever my sons talk me into doing. I'm not spending any more money till my next payday, so I won't be tempted to go out and indulge. And when I want to take breaks from housework, you may find I've checked in here and posted far too much on everybody's threads! zay 11-16-2012, 11:08 PM Just realized your name is Georgia. Love that name! Are you familiar with Boz Scaggs Georgia? Great song...funny I've never met anyone name Georgia until Sept...I have a professor and her name is Georgia. And you too! You could try to plug those into daily plate and see if it comes up. I'm amazed at the content of their database. There are even Atkins recipes on it. Have a good night. See you all tomorrow. jdennis84 11-17-2012, 12:58 AM I had a meeting at work that lasted till later in the afternoon, so I missed lunch. My son and I just got home from an early dinner at our favorite Thai restaurant, a big bowl of Tom Ka Kai soup and chicken satay with peanut sauce. Not sure how to track those carbs and calories, so I won't even try. I'm done eating for the night. So it's the weekend. What have you all got planned to stay on track? I've got a lot of housework to get done and I'm hoping I'll be too busy to notice that I want to get snacky or cave in to whatever my sons talk me into doing. I'm not spending any more money till my next payday, so I won't be tempted to go out and indulge. And when I want to take breaks from housework, you may find I've checked in here and posted far too much on everybody's threads! Mmm.... Chicken satay is the bomb! I could eat a dozen easily.... In the past, I may have ^_^ I finished out my night with about 10 oz of strawberrys in milk... My new alternative to ice cream. Should I be tracking more than just calories? zay 11-17-2012, 09:07 AM Good morning, I'm down 2 lbs today to 298.5. I'll check in later when I decide on my menu for the day. Have a great day! geoblewis 11-17-2012, 12:07 PM Jen, up to you what you want to track. Since this thread is in the Atkins Diet forum, I jumped in because I want to keep my carb intake low and I always love the emo-tivation I get from joining a challenge group. If tracking calories is bringing you positive results, then stick with that. I think you're welcome to stay here if you like. The more the merrier! (I have easily made myself crazy tracking WAY too much and suffered from analysis paralysis at one point. Keeping it simple is better for my motivation.) As for the satay and peanut sauce, I could easily eat that much too! Fortunately for me, the Thai restaurant made the appetizer for one healthy, weight-conscious eater and there were only five pieces on the plate. And my son ate one of them. (Scoundrel! 15-year-old football player with a bottomless appetite! He ate a bowl of Tom Yum soup AND all the spring rolls on the platter AND an order of orange chicken with veggies and jasmin rice. AND he considered the banana split too! But I cut him off because I was dangerously low on cash.) Well done Zay! Off to an excellent start! Cutting the carbs is so rewarding on the scale. I'm looking forward to relosing all of what I gained back from the carbing up. I'm down half a pound since yesterday, so I guess I didn't do too badly at the Thai restaurant. Yes, I'm familiar with all the songs of Boz Skaggs. I live close to SF, where he's from, and was a teen in the 70s when he became popular. And then, there's all those people who sing my name, ala Boz and (mostly) Ray Charles. And then more recently there's John Mayer's "Why Georgia" that my sons love to sing to me when I demand they do chores. So, it's a rainy Saturday here in Northern California. Love it! I'm planning to spend the day doing housework and riding broom on my sons so that they help me. I have already had my breakfast this morning: 3 eggs, 2 slices of Niman Ranch bacon (yum!), heavy cream in my coffee...and then there's all the vitamins that I'm taking. Dear lord! That's a whole meal too! But I seem to feel better when I take the ones I've got now, and taking them requires me to drink a lot of water. As for my meals the rest of the day...I think I'm going to measure out some cheese ahead of time so I don't go over on that. And I've got some ground lamb to cook up and layer on some grilled zucchini and top it with feta cheese for a low-carb version of moussaka. And some nice grilled wild Alaskan salmon with a serving of coconut-creamed spinach for dinner. I have a chocolate protein shake to drink if I get too hungry later in the afternoon. With the winter-like weather settling in, it's time for me to drag my rowing machine back to the living room. Once I get that room dusted and vacuumed today, I'm going to oil my machine and drag her in front of the TV. I have a Concept2 D model and I love using it. I even have a DVD of someone rowing through rivers, as well as a training DVD to work on form and pacing. I like to combine weight-loss methods. One thing I try to do is limit the number of hours I'm eating with intermittent fasting. So I hope to be done eating by 6 p.m. tonight and have a proper 12-hour fast through the night. It seems to be really difficult for me to achieve since my body wants to eat more in the late afternoon and evening. I can be done with my calories by 6 p.m. but then snack my way up by a few hundred calories between 6 and 10 p.m. when I usually go to bed. I only recently became a breakfast eater because of blood sugar and other issues, but I'm not usually interested in eating until after noon. I miss the morning fasting, a lot. But it just wasn't working for my health. But my doctor is letting me do the 12-hour fasts, as long as I'm timing them so that I eat within half an hour of waking up. Okay, I'm going to stop writing now, before this turns into a novella! Have a great day! zay 11-17-2012, 02:41 PM Good so far today. I had one sausage patty at McD's along with two round eggs. Its so nice they have no problem selling a la carte...seems they get lots of requests like this. Plus a large coffee black with 4 splenda just 3.99...what a deal. I then went to class. I have a killer headache today. That is because I've been really and truly cutting the carbs. Just home for lunch and had some leftover pork roast. Pretty good. I'm going to make some cauliflower in a while - with butter. Haha Geo, the boys sure do have an appetite. I have a 14 yo football player myself. Your rowing machine sounds fun. Good luck on getting your housework done and moving that in for the winter. I've done the IF'ing myself and it works very well. Just like anything else, its gotta feel right and its not my motivation right now. To me right now I'm trying to just stick with 3 meals and not eating after dinner. That usually leave me with a nice overnight fast and is usually 12-14 hours. Fasting is a great tool. I know someone who is eating once per day in a 2 hour window and she is losing sooo fast. She is eating anything she wants. I'll be back tonight. Hope you don't get sick of me. This is what I need to stay on track and make it all happen. zay 11-17-2012, 02:52 PM I lol'd at "riding the broom" comment. I actually remove the internet connection from the back of the Xbox when I need something done. haha geoblewis 11-17-2012, 04:57 PM THIS! I actually remove the internet connection from the back of the Xbox when I need something done. haha Yes! My mobile phone is actually a hot spot and I'm the only one with access to it, so I can keep working online and hide the modem completely! For some reason, seeing that I can still use the Internet but they can't is very motivating! I will NOT get sick of you, Zay, I promise! Really, posting progress and challenges, moment by moment, is what keeps me most motivated. Sometimes I get on 3FC and really wear out my welcome, I think. But it has really saved me some days. zay 11-17-2012, 10:17 PM Hello, I'm a little disappointed in myself for not pre planning. I made a pumpkin bake dessert and went over on my carbs before adding them to my daily plate. I didn't realize it was so high in carbs (and calories) Calories 1601 Carbs 33 Net Thanks Geo! :) zay 11-18-2012, 04:24 PM DMB, Jdennis, Geo? How are you all doing today? I'm doing pretty well. I'm down 1/2 lb this morning. Not much going on. My headache was absolutely awful yesterday and was not affected by Advil or sinus pill. Today it is much better but still there slightly. Going pretty good so far. Anyone hear of Ideal Diet? I have been reading about it here. It looks similar to Medifast. Hope you all are having a good day. TxSkyGirl 11-19-2012, 12:05 AM I'm totally in, but I just started Medifast so I'm doing crazy weight loss right now. But I would really like to do it just PAST Thanksgiving, since that's going to be the hard cheat day!! I'm planning to have a small portion of Turkey, some veggies and try to find a low sugar dessert (I LOVE DESSERT!) I can't go back to having to redo the ketosis phase though. It sucks. I've lost 9 lbs in a week though! going2bskinny 11-19-2012, 05:00 AM I want to join I'm a little late but I want to make sure I don't eat any thanksgiving food also I'm starting a very strict semi fast tomorrow I need to stick to ill do a 7 day challenge as well since the longer ones I tend to have a hard time sticking to and if I can do 7 maybe I can keep going this time good luck everybody. zay 11-19-2012, 08:59 AM Down another 1/2 pound this morning. My calories/carbs yesterday was 1687 calories and 35 net carbs. The pumpkin bake is almost gone :) Thank you for joining TxSkyGrl and going2bskinny! Please check in today and let us know how you are doing geoblewis 11-19-2012, 03:22 PM Yesterday I fell into the refrigerator and it took me all day to fight my way out! I stopped tracking calories midday. It was just going to be too bloody to face. Weekends are the toughest part of staying on track for me. Back on track today. Already done with Pilates and TRX for the day. Sensible portions at breakfast and I'm staying at work for the rest of the day. I brought a healthy lunch along. zay 11-19-2012, 05:51 PM Good luck Georgia! Great job on your successes today! I am Intermittent fasting today. I hope I can finish off the day today. There is something to being really full and satisfied and not having to stretch out food throughout the long day. I like not having to micro manage meals and macronutrients. I'll check in later. How is everyone doing? zay 11-19-2012, 05:53 PM TxsSkygirl, I've done Medifast before. Boy it works great when you are in the groove. Congrats on 9 lbs your first week! zay 11-19-2012, 09:04 PM So its 8pm and I'm finished eating for the day. I had 1477 calories - 18 NET carbs - 124 protein. I ate 3 meals - 11am-7pm. I planned on having 2 meals but it is difficult to shop, cook and serve my family and not eat too. ugh! Still ok. Successful day for me. going2bskinny 11-20-2012, 12:35 AM I messed up today on day one of my challenge haha :( made it half the day then just was really hungry and i ate some crackers and cheese and a few other things didnt totally go nuts but still ate what I wasn't supposed to so yeah tomorrow I will attempt again to make it through unscathed. dont worry geo ur not alone lol zay 11-20-2012, 10:56 AM Down another 1/2 pound. Hope everyone has a good day! bonheurbelle 11-20-2012, 05:29 PM count me in, I am new to this group and am trying to get off a last few pounds it has been a long beautiful journey and just to make better choices all of the time. geoblewis 11-20-2012, 08:48 PM Doing really well today, with regards to diet, but only because I am feeling very queasy. Second day in a row. At first I thought it was my vitamins, but I skipped them last night and today and I'm still feeling it. Have managed to eat just 1400 calories calories today (I can eat under most circumstances :D) but am definitely going to skip eating after evening Pilates class. Just drinking water for the rest of the day. Tomorrow is going to be a very busy day for me. I may only check in by bedtime. In case I miss you, have a great holiday! davematthewsband 11-21-2012, 01:20 PM Ok ladies - I've procrastinated long enough. I'm going to put on my exercise clothes, leave the house, and head to the local gym to sign up. I'm on vacation from work today, the kids are at the babysitters, and I have no more excuses. I don't know what my deal is, but I have been dragging this out until the last possible moment. Wish me luck! If I don't post back later with info. about signing up, please yell at me! :-) going2bskinny 11-21-2012, 01:54 PM day 1 230.5lbs wed nov 21st 2012 im doing good today so this will be my official day number one my challenge is eating nothing but fruits and veggies and some almond milk maybe or coconut milk and coconut water also olives I'll start with the 7 days as not to feel overwhelmed but I'm hoping to keep it up for a very long time. zay 11-21-2012, 02:44 PM Hello Geo, DMB and Going 2 b skinny! I am on day 7 of the challenge. I was down a whole pound from yesterday. I've been doing the intermittent fasting (one large meal (with dessert) per day - low carb - approx 1000 calories) for 2 days and I think I like it. Check out my signature. Before that I got real low in carbs and had a horrible headache for the first 2 days. Since doing that I feel I can follow eating once per day. DMB...did you join?? :) Going to be skinny! - wow you've done so well. How did you lose all of your weight so far? Georgia, how are you doing? davematthewsband 11-21-2012, 03:24 PM Guess who is a new gym member?!! And guess who signed up for her free personal training session tomorrow at 8 am? On Thanksgiving! Who am I?? What did I do with my lazy self? :-). Thanks for the motivation and support everyone!! davematthewsband 11-21-2012, 05:14 PM AND just bought new Ketostix and checked and purple, baby! Man, this mini goal idea was the best! Thanks for starting it and best of luck to everyone!! going2bskinny 11-21-2012, 10:06 PM thanks zay :D mostly by cutting out processed foods and dairy and wheat and sugar as best as I can. Mostly been eating fruits veggies and lean meat lots of salads course I have times when I slip back to packaged foods for a while and usually plateau at those times lol. Did a few juice fasts as well.:D Also doing alot of walking and joined a gym as well congrats davemathews for joining the gym thats great! also try to drink my gallon of water or at least 3 qts a day. I did really well today I'm happy scale is down already just from this morning I'll give the number tomorrow morning though cuz I do it with no clothes on after my shower and i just weighed myself with clothes on and its down half a pound though still even with em on so cant wait to see tomorrow :O going2bskinny 11-22-2012, 12:29 PM day 1 230.5lbs wed nov 21st 2012 Day 2 228.5lbs thu nov 22nd 2012 Yay :D I'm skipping thanksgiving today so I better keep seeing results!! davematthewsband 11-22-2012, 02:07 PM I used my one free personal trainer session this morning - on Thanksgiving - in an attempt at kicking off the eating season on a good note. I have never been more humbled by how out of shape I am. There's a difference in losing weight and being strong. I know the quicker I get this excess blubber off, the easier it will be to work out - and I'm more motivated than ever to get myself into gear. The fact that I couldn't do some of the very simple tasks he was asking (planking - just holding my body off the floor for 30 seconds) almost had me in tears. But it was a really good reality check. I do not have the funds to keep with personal training for now, but some of the simple exercises he showed me could be done on my own and I plan to work on them. Man. I really REALLY feel for those people on Biggest Loser. I was almost crying after an hour - can you imagine living on that ranch??? going2bskinny 11-23-2012, 02:39 PM Day 1 230.5lbs wed nov 21st 2012 Day 2 228.5lbs thu nov 22nd 2012 Day 3 227 fri nov 23rd 2012 yay down another pound and a half today I skipped thanksgiving but I do have a cold now so that sucks. good job dave for doing the workout I'd suggest doing some swimming there if yours has a pool also no impact on your joints. :D geoblewis 11-23-2012, 08:50 PM Ya'll are doing so fabulously! I'm feeling very motivated by you all! DMB, you're right about the big picture of fitness re: the focus of losing weight and actual ability to do things. When I first started exercising, I was so judgemental about how little I could achieve. What helped me the most was a very encouraging system of support that kept me wanting to continue with the exercise. I learned to practice a bit more self-compassion and that weighing so much actually helped me to build muscle faster. I found things I liked and could actually do, then slowly saw improvement. Within a few weeks, I started experiencing the endorphin rush from exercise, and then I was hooked! My trainer NEVER let me talk about the size of my backside or belly in disparaging terms. And as I lose weight, some things get easier to do and I can move faster. Sometimes, if I gain back a few pounds, things like planks get harder because of the added weight and I am SUPER motivated to cut carbs/calories and drop those pounds again. But I also like the extra work it makes me do. Zay, I'm jealous! Wish I was allowed to do the IF again! Hoping once I get better control over my blood sugar and have my cortisol cycles working right that I can get back to it, because it really worked for me! I am away from home till Sunday. Not tracking calories and carbs. Not really exercising other than walking a lot. Just making sure to just eat as minimally as possible and staying away from carbs. Except yesterday, I ate mashed potatoes AND potato chips, for the first time in a year. Then I had a dream that I passed out from eating too many potatoes! Even in my dreams, I'm worried about carbs! I'll be off line till Sunday. Take care! zay 11-23-2012, 10:09 PM Hello all. Wow you are doing well. Geo, I like the IF very much for hunger and control but am having a lot of gas..eating the same foods that I normally eat. Very uncomfortable I've got to run, will check in tomorrow. going2bskinny 11-24-2012, 01:46 PM Day 1 230.5lbs wed nov 21st 2012 Day 2 228.5lbs thu nov 22nd 2012 Day 3 227 fri nov 23rd 2012 Day 4 224 sat nov 24th 2012 down 3 pounds today that's a pretty big drop might be some water weight that will come back though will see tomorrow. Also my TOM started today as well so will see how that affects it but I'll be sticking to what I'm doing. Also I have a cold right now so that sucks making me feel tired and crappy. Great job everybody :D geoblewis 11-25-2012, 03:17 PM How long are we taking our mini-challenge? Are we done with the end of Thanksgiving weekend, or do we want to push through to support each other through the New Year? I'm up for that! I did great right up till T-day. Then I had too many potatoes for the last three days. I'm back on track now. I've decided to just concentrate on eating the right macronutrient mix for me - a Ketogenic balance. Part of me doesn't want to weigh in till New Year's Day. Part of me is scared that if I don't check in on the scale I won't feel accountable and will not stick to my plan. What do you all think? going2bskinny 11-25-2012, 09:02 PM Day 1 230.5lbs wed nov 21st 2012 Day 2 228.5lbs thu nov 22nd 2012 Day 3 227 fri nov 23rd 2012 Day 4 224 sat nov 24th 2012 Day 5 225 sun nov 25th 2012 well im up a pound today i knew that 3 lb drop was too good to be true but oh well still down from start :D and still doing good. geo i havent even finished my 7 days yet lol but i was planning on keeping going too so go ahead if you want to. Another good thread to join are the 10lb threads like the ones that say getting out of the 220s etc everyone keeps you motivated and on track in those and you feel really happy when you can graduate to the next thread after your 10 or 20 lbs whatever that thread is doing. I am in those as well they really really help. going2bskinny 11-27-2012, 02:56 PM Day 1 230.5lbs wed nov 21st 2012 Day 2 228.5lbs thu nov 22nd 2012 Day 3 227 fri nov 23rd 2012 Day 4 224 sat nov 24th 2012 Day 5 225 sun nov 25th 2012 Day 6 224 Mon nov 26th 2012 That was yesterday today is my day 7 so ill post my weight tonight is anyone still hanging here? zay 11-28-2012, 02:13 PM Hello going to be skinny and geo! Sorry I haven't been around. I was successful on the 7 day but kind of off track since Thanksgiving weekend - ARGH! I've been doing the Intermittent Fasting. I could use another challenge! Skinny! You did fantastic! How was day 7? Geo, how are you doing? I would be interested in another challenge - 7 days is a nice chunk of time that is not too much to swallow...haha. Any ideas? going2bskinny 11-28-2012, 03:40 PM Day 1 230.5lbs wed nov 21st 2012 Day 2 228.5lbs thu nov 22nd 2012 Day 3 227 fri nov 23rd 2012 Day 4 224 sat nov 24th 2012 Day 5 225 sun nov 25th 2012 Day 6 224 Mon nov 26th 2012 Day 7 223 Tues nov 27th 2012 yay finished day 7 today is day 8 and I'm already 222 :O wasn't able to post yesterday so 223 was my yesterday. hey zay thanks :D yeah I skipped thanksgiving all together because of that I want all this weight off by this summer so I can start getting really toned and nice muscles at the gym so can't afford the holidays I'm gonna skip christmas too and new years :( but I'd rather lose weight than eat on those days. yeah 7 days is pretty good I usually dont even make it that long without some kind of mess up im a yoyoer I'm gonna keep this up and see how long I can go for now that 7 days are down I'll try for 21 days now! zay 11-28-2012, 04:02 PM With those stats you sure don't look like a yoyoer! Great job. Are you following Atkins right now? Are you counting calories? What were you eating over the last week? BIG CONGRATS! I love your commitment! Spread some of that mojo to me! Kyrren 11-28-2012, 04:17 PM I would love to be in for 7 days! Day 1 (11/28): 193.4 I need to stay accountable. I want to be down to 170s by the New Year. I know it is a stretch, but wouldn't it be great! going2bskinny 11-28-2012, 08:00 PM lol thanks zay well I cut out all meat and dairy for the week and most carbs but not completely and only healthy carbs when I do have them like for example. I eat fruits veggies as much as I want. I made some veggie soup this week in the crock pot with vegetable broth and red potatoes carrots onions celery garlic and spice it however you want. Or make any kind of veggie soup. I'm going to make a veggie soup with lentils after this soup is gone. For healthy carbs I'll eat like beans or a slice of ezekiel bread with natural peanut butter on it or some quinoa or potatoes or squash but I try to have a carb like that for only one or 2 meals of the day so my other meals are either salad or fruit. for snacks i just eat a few olives sometimes or a apple or some other fruit. I have a yonanas machine so I make myself like a ice cream out of frozen banana and frozen berries or other frozen fruit like pineapple and mango I have that is really good. Also I make my own almond milk I've been trying to stay away from nuts too to give my kidneys more of a break but I decided I'd let myself have almond milk that I make myself for the healthy fats and protein in it. And easier to digest than the nuts. also if i havent had any fat for the day I put a tablespoon of ground flax in my quinoa with other veggies in it to get my healthy fats. Otherwise I'd have a little avacado in the day but I haven't this week cuz I just didn't have any. basically just doing a vegan diet right now to see how it goes. I'm going to start doing more green juices though in a week when I have more money to buy more produce for it. last night I had a salad with some fat free refried beans and some chilli sauce from trader joes on it it was really good and filling tasted like a burrito but without the wrap so basically trying to keep my fats really low except a small amount of healthy fat a day and keeping my carbs relatively low even though I don't think thats necessary and eating mostly veggies and fruit. And trying to drink at least 3 qts of water a day. I haven't been exercising because I have a leg injury right now but I am going to start doing some light exercise again next week like a walk and some floor exercises and weights. I crumble some nori in my quinoa too a few times a week also. Or make a shake with unsweetened coconut milk from trader joe frozen fruit and some spurilina powder on some days. Oh and also drinking some coconut water the taste nirvana brand since there is no additives and tastes the best to me. steamed veggies that's about it i think :D I take a b12 supplement once too in the week since I'm not eating meat or dairy. Oh I also toasted some garbanzo beans last night and they get crunchy in the oven and i put some spices on them was really good for a crunchy protein snack. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1GsGxqdlP4U following that pretty much. welcome kyrren good luck with your plan I want to be 199 by new years, so I'm kinda stretching too lol hope we both make it :O vBulletin® v3.6.7, Copyright ©2000-2015, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
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RE: ever get nailed by a power outage? (Follow-Up #2)
posted by: curlygirl on 06.20.2012 at 02:35 pm in Greenhouses & Garden Structures Forum Great question! That is something that really concerns me. I want a greenhouse that is resilient to many challenges and so we are building strategies into the design. Among the many years I have been researching this, here are many of the following design strategies I have come across and am seriously considering:
Passive Solar Design http://www.baldmtnhomes.com/McCelo.html Pit Greenhouses http://www.solarinnovations.com/marketing/media/Solar Innovations, Inc. Unveils Pit Greenhouses.pdf Attached Greenhouses Subterranean Heating and Cooling System (aka "Climate Battery or "Seasonal Store") http://barrettstudio.wordpress.com/2011/12/22/the-practically-zero-energy-year-round-greenhouse/ Geothermal http://www.citrusinthesnow.com/ Phase Change Materials http://greenhousefashions.blogspot.com/ Thermal Solar in Radiant Heated Beds What I plan to do . . . I am concerned about Peak Oil (and Peak Everything!), Climate Change and economic uncertainty and it may seem that building a greenhouse might be extravagant with such concerns but I think greenhouses will become a handy feature of a house in the future. The key is to design one that is not a resource hog! http://www.greenbuildingadvisor.com/blogs/dept/energy-solutions/green-building-priority-9-create-resilient-houses For awhile, I had concluded a passive solar attached pit greenhouse (with the glazing tall enough to grow fruit trees) would be the ideal design. Then I learned about SHCS and thought that I could integrate that into the design as well. However, when we finally found a property that had enough southern exposure, we find now that the high water table is probably too high and may interfere with the SHCS tubing. So, we probably won't do the pit design and I am hoping that the heat storage below will provide the freeze protection that a pit design would give us in a power outage. I am also concerned that being in Massachusetts I might not get enough solar exposure to heat the greenhouse year round. We are looking into another heat source -any suggestions? So now we are considering geothermal. We have natural gas for our house and I am concerned that although the price of natural gas is not so bad now that in the future it will be. I also rather not use a fuel that is sometimes retrieved by fracking. Geothermal is so expensive in upfront costs that we may not be able to afford it, however, our state does offer some loans and there are federal tax incentives. Geothermal would allow us to both heat our house and greenhouse, however, we would not get the benefit of the dehumidifying that the SHCS would provide us. I'd like to do a hybrid system but we are not sure if we can afford both. In addition, we are designing a rain catchment system with an underground cistern and a root cellar. With the typical rainfall we get in New England, we could provide all the water we need for our greenhouse, household and gardens if we have a cistern big enough to store the water during rainy periods. As for what to do when we go away. We have a number of neighbors who are just wonderful! This spring we created a garden on our property for three households to use. We built it all together and when one of us goes away, we have each other to look after the garden plots. -I used to have to hire someone to water my garden! We plan on doing something like that for our greenhouse where we invite friends and neighbors to enjoy it on some level whether is by sharing the harvest or spending time in it on a cold wintery day to lift their spirits. Little by little, we will show them how it works so that when we go away, we'll have knowledgeable people we can count on. NOTES: <none>
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RE: Row Cover Gardening (Follow-Up #33)
posted by: Hudson...WY on 09.28.2012 at 09:09 am in Greenhouses & Garden Structures Forum The mesh is 47" 12 1/2 gauge Field Fence available at most farm supply stores - a full roll is 330' but most stores have smaller rolls as well. I cut the fence in 6' lengths with small bolt cutter or wire cutter and cut the vertical wire such that there is 6" of wire on both sides of the hopes to push into the ground to anchor the fence. The center height is approx. 24". I plant in wide rows of 30". The mesh size is 6" squares (for easy reach-in, weeding etc.) although the bottom couple of rows are a bit smaller. I gap the fence in the rows approx. 18" to reduce the cost and because the row cover does not sag with the gap. I like the fence because it will last many years and I live in a climate where we have had snow every month of the year and periods of hail or strong wind. The fence does an excellent job holding up the weight of the snow and withstanding the wind/hail etc. It pulls out easy at season end and stores by stacking one inside the other. I have never tried PVC pipe so I am not in a position to compare. I am sure this fence method is more expensive but I like the way it performs.
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RE: Row Cover Gardening (Follow-Up #17)
posted by: karin_mt on 12.27.2010 at 12:47 am in Greenhouses & Garden Structures Forum OK, here are some photos:
Overview - basically it's a simple perimeter fence. Instead of making a T like Dan's. we just put in vertical posts at each corner and then every 8' along the row. Next year we'll add a lower strand of wire to catch the shorter canes. Close-up of the wire tensioning device - a threaded hook with a nut on the end. Spinning the nut adjusts the tension. The wire is basic fencing wire. Summertime view. A William Baffin climbing rose sits at the midpoint in the rows and there is a gap in the raspberry fence here so you can get in between the rows here. This is best done while wearing long sleeves because the rose is even thornier than the raspberries, so it's a bit tricky to negotiate. That said, I wouldn't trade this magnificent rose for anything! Time to make jam! This is from the year before last, early August. Yum. I have lost track of which varieties I have where. I planted a wide range of them: Boyne, Redwing, Latham, Heritage, Royalty. However I did not keep detailed notes about which type is where, and at this point they have all spread around. I didn't realize that Redwing and Heritage are fall-bearing - all the types produce at similar times for me. Nowadays I keep meticulous notes about everything I plant and so it bugs me that I am relatively clueless about my raspberry types. NOTES: <none>
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RE: Best way to fasten aluminet shade cloth? (Follow-Up #14)
posted by: mudhouse on 04.13.2010 at 02:24 pm in Greenhouses & Garden Structures Forum Thanks, I love my mosaic bench/sink area. Honestly, it's usually got so much dirt and crud on it, it never looks like those photos in my blog anymore. But, it works!
Having the thermostats in full sun will definately skew your readings, but I can't say how much. This is my first greenhouse too, but I read that it's best to locate thermostats close to the center of the greenhouse, close to (or just above) plant level, and out of direct sunlight. Because the thermostats are basically the "brains" of the greenhouse, I figured it was worth a bit of hassle to try to hang them in a good spot. Also, I tend to slop water everywhere, and knew that mine would be safest if they were hanging from the ceiling...but with your slick system, that shouldn't be a problem. Here are a few threads/links that might give you more ideas: I spent time with your blog this morning, and it's really good (and fun to read.) I love the stone foundation, stoplight lenses, and the row of glass bottles (being a closet fan of funky folk art and bottle houses...) I think the important thing is to have fun, and it looks to me like you're doing a great job of that. You are right that everything always costs more than we think it will, but I figure at the end of my life, I won't be saying "I wish I hadn't spent money on interesting hobbies that taught me stuff...!!" NOTES: <none>
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Pics of my first lighted grow rack.....in the bathtub!
posted by: squirrellypete on 11.15.2012 at 11:13 pm in Growing under Lights Forum Well as I mentioned in another post I think I found the perfect location for a lighted grow rack, in an unused bathtub in our loft bathroom. Feel free to critique it. Just don't critique the dirty-looking floor of my bathtub....I've been tracking my muddy shoes in and out of it while I worked lol.
The bathtub perfectly accomodated 4 foot long shelves however I was limited in the width by the base of the tub which was just a little over 18" at the very bottom. So if I want to use the full height of the enclosure from floor to ceiling then 24" shelves were out of the question, at least on the bottom half. I know alot of standard flats are approximately 22" so if I get some of those they'll just overhang some on each side. However, I am currently getting free 18 plant flats from Lowes and theirs are exactly 18" long so that works out. As you can see I have room to hang at least two more tiers of lighted shelving underneath this one, but I didn't want to get carried away until I tried one and knew it would work. The flats in the pics are currently empty, just wanted to see what it would look like. This is a VERY tiny bathroom so I decided it would actually be much easier to hang the unit rather than erect a big old free-standing shelf. You can easily add, subtract or adjust the tiers as well as the lights with chains and "S" hooks, much easier to carry in the pieces than try to bring in an entire unit or try to build it inside of the bathtub. I wanted to use things I already had or had scavenged. I already had one of those $80 chrome 5-tier shelving units I bought from Lowes some years back to store my plastic pots outdoors, and since those are now being stored elsewhere it was just sitting empty. However it was rusted so badly that despite WD-40 and a couple of hours of effort it could not be re-configured, several sections of legs and 2 of the shelves were completely stuck. So after deciding to instead hang the shelves I cannibalized the portions I was able to get loose. I saved two of the 6 foot legs which are very rigid and sturdy, cut them to the span of the bathtub and added some 1" rubber chair bottoms to cover the ends. These chair bottoms are identical to the rubber ends on a shower curtain rod. Except for the top shelf which I added to sit across the steel cross pieces, all of the lower shelves are the 18" X 4'ones from the chrome unit. That big reflective thing in the foreground is the track for sliding shower doors which we never installed and instead went with a traditional shower curtain. It's kinda' in my way so I'm going to remove that whole track (finally). I'm also going to securely mount the power strip to the wall and tidy up the electrical cord situation so it runs tightly along the trim boards and down to the electrical outlet. I can't stand a mess of electrical cords, this was just temporary to get it up and running tonight. I did buy a 20" X 4' long wire closet shelf from Lowes which sits on the top of those two cross pieces. I quickly zip tied it to the two rods which locks everything on that level together. There is a little room between that shelf and the wooden ceiling so I plan to use that rack as my seed germination level since they don't really need light until they germinate, at which point they'll be moved down to a lower lighted tier. I also plan to line the bathtub on three sides, possibly the ceiling as well with mylar. I may even hang a homemade mylar curtain between the shelves and the exterior shower curtain. I don't know if all that will be necessary. Will have to see how it goes. I can also add small fans to each level if needed to help the seedlings grow sturdier and will eventually add a light timer, for now doing it manually. Right now I've got the lights on a power strip so I can just flick the switch and both come on or I can use the pull chains for individual units. What I like about this set-up is that room stays between 70 and 80 degrees on any given day, even in the winter time. Being at the top of the house and the adjacent office containing loads of electronics, it is always warm up there so I don't think supplemental heat for germinating will be necessary. Also, I still have a regular pretty fabric shower curtain in front of everything so I can just pull the curtain closed and TA-DA! It's back to a useable bathroom for guests with no one the wiser. That bathtub has never once been used in the 10 years we've been here for anything other than storage. Of course, even with the shower curtain closed if the fluorescents are on it's not completely disguised as a bathtub. Oh well. I cannot wait to start some veggies and flowering plants in this puppy! Thanks to everyone else who has posted their setups for inspiration. Danielle NOTES: <none>
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RE: Passive solar heating (Follow-Up #9)
posted by: curlygirl on 09.04.2012 at 05:09 pm in Greenhouses & Garden Structures Forum I just heard back some encouraging news from Rgees. They recommend my putting encapsulated PCMs within the heat sink of the SHCS -along with the soil and/or gravel. That way, I can have the dehumidifying benefits of the SHCS along with the extra heat storage of the PCMs. Please note that SHCS is a phase change system -it is just that my high water table has me pursuing this other avenue (if my heat sink was flooded, it would take away my heat and -if this happened enough times- would fill my tubing with dirt).
AZjohn -I know what you mean about SHCS! Have you been looking at Sunny John's site? He used to have great forums where people could discuss their plans and challenges. I used to read them all the time when I was renting and could only dream and research. Now that I have a house and could use the forums to ask for feedback on my particular challenges, the forums are gone! However, I have some good news. SHCS is alive and well! Check it out: http://www.roperld.com/science/ymcasolargreenhouse.htm KimHat- I know you can store PCMs in other materials such as metal tubes but I am having trouble finding that information right now. I would just go on the greenhouse fashions blog and ask questions in the comments. The blogger, Nina Reinhart, works for Rgees and is interested in getting PCMs into greenhouses. I think primarily because it would help their company expand into a new market but also because PCMs are absolutely perfect for greenhouses. The large temperature swings, the limited space, the high cost of heating and cooling, etc. Anything you can do to reduce temperature swings passively is something that will pay you back every year. I say all this without knowing what they actually cost but I think if you are in the planning stages of your greenhouse then it would make sense to think about how to incorporate them into your design. You can add them later but for me, aesthetics are pretty important so I am working them into the design now. Also, there is another PCM product made by another company called Bio-Based PCM which you can integrate nicely into your house and it actually acts as a moisture seal too: http://www.treehugger.com/green-architecture/bio-based-phase-changing-material-adds-instant-thermal-mass.html Cole Robbie (love the name, by the way!)- where do you live? What are you growing in your greenhouse? NOTES: <none>
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RE: Shade Cloth Questions (Follow-Up #5)
posted by: mudhouse on 03.13.2013 at 11:15 pm in Greenhouses & Garden Structures Forum I've been using Aluminet in many ways on my greenhouse, coming up on six years, with no failures or problems. I hope I don't have the problems fruitnut mentioned (so far so good.) I first purchased 40% for the roof, but that was not nearly enough protection for my plants during the intense summer months. I later changed it to 60% for the roof, and used the 40% aluminet elsewhere.
It's very versatile, and easy to work with because it's so lightweight. I made a cover for my roof, by folding over the raw edges, hand-sewing with a big needle and strong nylon thread, and adding grommets. Then I used it to make screen panels for the south wall of my greenhouse, by stretching it inside the Home Depot metal frames for making your own window screens. I've also made a simple curtain out of it (hand-whipping the edges, again) that slides on shower curtain hooks on a rod over my greenhouse doors (lets the breeze through, but keeps the sun and birds out.) I've wrapped it around a wooden frame for my greenhouse gable, and stapled it in place with a staple gun. Really easy to work with. Rosiew, the appearance is very silvery and shiny/sparkly. It has a fairly loose weave and stretches quite a bit in one direction. It doesn't look organic at all, though, and at first I was a little disappointed with the shiny metallic look. I used to joke that it made my greenhouse look like the Starship Enterprise. The stuff works so well for me, though, I've stopped worrying about that. If you'd like me to send a small piece in an envelope, so you can see the material for yourself, send me an email through Gardenweb. I have lots of little scraps. NOTES: <none>
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RE: Foilastic glazing tape/HFGH (Follow-Up #13)
posted by: mudhouse on 03.12.2013 at 03:23 pm in Greenhouses & Garden Structures Forum OK, I'm back. Eastpenna, ordering from Harbor Freight is sorta like herding cats through a three-ring circus. Always an adventure. ;-)
The person you spoke with was incorrect and/or confused; the clips are still available. Here is the info you need to call back with. The clips are identical for both the 6x8 greenhouse and the 10x12 greenhouse. However, Harbor Freight uses different part and SKU numbers for each kit. I asked him to look up both for us, so I could post it all here. He said to be sure to give them the SKU number and that will avoid confusion. (Good luck with that, lol.) For the 6x8 greenhouse: For the 10x12 greenhouse: Hope this helps, feel free to post back if this doesn't work. Be prepared to speak slowly and be persistent. ;-) NOTES: <none>
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RE: South, true south, solar noon - orienting a greenhouse (Follow-Up #1)
posted by: TomSlawson on 03.13.2013 at 11:59 pm in Greenhouses & Garden Structures Forum Play with the program in that link a little. You can change dates, drag the cursor to your house, all kinds of stuff. A very instructive view is "path + rays." After playing with it for a while, you will realize the sun is so far south in the winter that as long as you long wall is pretty much south, it is no biggie.
Here is a link that might be useful: Sun position calculator NOTES: Alos see links in post a little further down in the thread.
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Another way to use thermal mass
posted by: steve22802 on 02.27.2013 at 09:50 am in Greenhouses & Garden Structures Forum i just wanted to share another way to use thermal mass that I've recently found to be quite effective. My homemade greenhouse has single pane tempered glass on the roof and as you might expect it doesn't hold heat very well overnight. So instead of trying to heat the whole 12x16 foot greenhouse I made a rectangle on the ground using 5 gallon vegetable oil jugs full of water then I put my seed flats and dahlia pots inside the rectangle. At night I cover the whole thing with old blankets and deck chair cushions for insulation.
I've just been doing this for about 4 days but it seems to be working quite well. There was one night where the outdoor temperature dipped to around 20F after a sunny day. The temperature inside the greenhouse dropped to around 30F but under the blankets the temperature stayed over 50F. Two days ago was a sunny day and the water warmed up nicely. The outdoor overnight low was 27F but under the blankets it was 54F. Yesterday was rainy and overcast so I didn't uncover the pots at all. This morning the temp in the protected area was 49F after two cold nights and a full day with no solar gain at all. (The overnight low last night was only 36 so that helped slow heat loss too.) Today is forecast to be 54 and partly sunny so I have the jugs uncovered hoping for a solar recharge. Obviously this won't work for tall plants but for getting an early start with seedlings or potted dahlias that can fit under the 14 inch height limit of the jugs it works pretty good. I use a long 4x4 to keep the blankets from sagging onto the pots. NOTES: <none>
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RE: OK - getting the greenhouse going for the season! (Follow-Up #10)
posted by: Hudson...WY on 03.11.2013 at 08:15 pm in Greenhouses & Garden Structures Forum OK - The photos on this post motivated me to do some planting! I am jealous of Those of you that live in warmer climates (but not enough to want to move) - so I will just have to improvise - with 2+' of snow on the ground and freezing temps in an unheated GH. I have no idea if this will be successful but We are going to give it a go! The GH temp this morning was 32 degrees. The tomatoes survived the night and I will set the timer to give them as much darkness as I can but keeping them warm as OS temps dictate. As we move towards spring - I should be able to give them more darkness. If anyone as tried this method please give us some advice! The GH is going for the season. Oh, by the way - I still have back up starts in case this idea fails...... We had ripe tomatoes the middle of June in 2012. We are one month earlier planting tomatoes in our GH this year. If this idea works - we may have ripe tomatoes by the end of May??
This post was edited by Hudson...WY on Mon, Mar 11, 13 at 20:39 NOTES: <none>
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RE: OK - getting the greenhouse going for the season! (Follow-Up #2)
posted by: billala on 03.10.2013 at 04:11 pm in Greenhouses & Garden Structures Forum Having grown up in my Dad's commercial greenhouses in Indiana, I tend to take a utilitarian approach to greenhousing, i.e. far more attention to usefulness than beauty. The following photos definitely show this.
Down here, we're in the middle of the winter growing/harvesting season. In this climate, we harvest baby lettuce and swiss chard all winter in a squirrel/jay-proof "screenhouse". We have to grow 4-5 crops of lettuce for a continuous supply, but just one swiss chard crop supplies us all winter. Most winters we have to cram the lettuce into the greenhouse a time or two for a day or two at a time, when the nighttime temp falls below 26ĚŠF. It never got that cold this past winter, so the lettuce stayed in the screenhouse continuously. Lettuce nearing end of harvesting (2d crop of season): Romaine and Green Lollo 2d crop: Cherokee Red 2d crop: Next Lettuce Crop (3d of the season): Romaine in 3d crop: Red Lollo and Cherokee in 3d crop: Bright Lights chard: Fordhook Giant chard: The spring tomato and herb seedlings are well along. The herbs can stay outside, but the tomatoes must go in containers which are moved into the screenhouse when the lettuce is finished, and as the tomatoes begin to mature, again to combat the squirrels and jays. If successful, the tomatoes will be ready for harvesting in May through June. Tomato, basil. parsley and sage seedlings: Tomato volunteer "rescued" in October: Three of the four tomatoes on the volunteer after five months: Overwintered herbs: Overwintered Meyer Lemon: NOTES: <none>
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RE: ventilation fan (Follow-Up #1)
posted by: cuestaroble on 04.07.2013 at 09:19 pm in Greenhouses & Garden Structures Forum The recommended air exchange rate is one volume per minute. Therefore, you need 3800 cfm fans, without any additional passive ventilation. For only passive ventilation, the roof vents should be 20% of the floor area, and the bottom side vents should be 10% of the floor area.
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RE: Carbon footprints and environmental responsibility (Follow-Up #39)
posted by: sdrawkcab on 08.18.2008 at 10:28 am in Greenhouses & Garden Structures Forum "There are times and crops that outpace conventional agriculture. Certainly, we may be able to equal the output with a much smarter approach than to blanket spray everything all the time. I am not saying you are wrong, just not completely correct."
Can you provide some examples of crops that can be grown organically and produce higher (or even comperable) yeilds than plants grown with chemicals such as fertalizers and pesticides? When you say "Blanket spraying everything all the time" I'm not sure what you mean? In real life, farmers don't spray unnessicary chemicals 'just because'. Think about it from the farmers point of view- they have to buy the chemicals, and pay for the labor and equipment to apply those chemicals. Why would they incur all this expense that can not be passed along to the consumer to treat pest or disease problems they are not experiencing? Remember, produce is a comodity; if my tomatoes cost me 65 cents a pound becasue I have so much tied up in all the chemicals I sprayed them with and the farmer down the road is selling his tomatoes for 42 cents a pound because he didn't spray as much, buyers will be purchasing his tomatoes and not mine. I've done a lot of work with hydroponics in college and in my free time. Aquaponics uses the same basic methods ony with fish providing the bulk of the nutrients for plant growth. Any form of "ponics" can be successful in a lab setting where all variables are monitored and controlled but it will be a while before the deserts of north Africa can be converted to fertile aquaponic farms. If you are interested in this type of culture, i've attached a few pictures of some of my hydroponic systems: NOTES: <none>
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RE: GH Benches (Follow-Up #6)
posted by: qrper on 03.04.2013 at 07:45 pm in Greenhouses & Garden Structures Forum NOTES: <none>
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RE: GH Closed for the Year (Follow-Up #4)
posted by: Hudson...WY on 11.08.2013 at 10:22 pm in Greenhouses & Garden Structures Forum Hi Danielle - haha - yes, hauling 16' panels can be challenging ! I don't suppose they can deliver them for you or maybe borrow a neighbor's trailer? I know it can be a hassle. Bolt cutters work well to cut the panels and once they are installed - they will last as long as your GH so you only have to do this once!
Here is a photo of what I think you are after. Please let me know if they don't show what you are looking for. I wired the panels to the galvanized pipe that hangs from the GH rafters with stout chain. I spaced the cattle panels about 16" from the GH roof panels to allow plenty of room for the tomato plants to grow in-between. Good luck with your setup - it has worked well for us ! NOTES: Great idea!
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RE: Solar Greenhouse Heat Sink (Follow-Up #12)
posted by: hex2006 on 01.05.2010 at 10:29 am in Greenhouses & Garden Structures Forum we`ve been down to -8C this winter so not as cold as some places. The driving force is the sun so air tempering is probably a better term than "heating", it tends to conjure up images of propane heaters and the like :)
Air is drawn down the center of the plenum where it meets a cone deflector which directs it into the 15 lower tubes. The air travels through the lower tubes and back towards the plenum. The recirculation feature is located at the point they reach the plenum and the air is either drawn back into the intake or directed to the outlets which are the holes at the top. The heat collection (and cooling)process is driven by a 700cfm 10" duct fan, variable speed controller and a differential thermostat. I sized the fan to provide upto 45 complete airchanges per hour for experimenting but 10-20 would be quite reasonable. The greenhouse is 9.5ft high with a volume of about 900cubic feet. These were the results of some tests i did using different fan speeds,the soilmass temperature was 13CF (55.4F)at 3.5ft deep. 200cfm intake temp: 28C (82.4F) Outlet temp: 13C (55.4F) 400cfm intake temp: 30C (86F) Outlet temp: 15C (59F) 677cfm intake temp: 30C (86F) Outlet temp: 17C (62.6F) NOTES: <none>
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RE: Is anyone using a shcs in a cold climate? (Follow-Up #10)
posted by: hex2006 on 12.02.2010 at 02:01 pm in Greenhouses & Garden Structures Forum Night time lows of 10F (-12C) with greenhouse soil temps reasonably steady at 50F (10C). My 150sqft greenhouse is very small compared to most that have a shcs installed.
The shcs consists of 180ft of 80mm perforated tube arranged in a 2 layer radial loop pattern (a giant 15 armed octopus buried in the greenhouse floor). The lowest tubes are 4ft deep with a central plenum driven by a 700cfm 10" duct fan. Six hours of sun per day would be nice but its not very likely with only 6 hours of daylight available :) NOTES: <none>
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RE: North Side cinderblock wall: Heat sink or insulation? (Follow-Up #4)
posted by: hex2006 on 10.09.2009 at 12:21 pm in Greenhouses & Garden Structures Forum Install the insulation vertically on the outside of the wall and extend it below ground a few feet.
If thats not possible you can install the sheets horizontally instead with a slight slope away from the greenhouse (google for "wing insulation" for more info). Use extruded (xps) polystyrene / blueboard as its the only thing that doesn`t soak up water and become useless after a few weeks. NOTES: <none>
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emt trellis elbows -- pvc
posted by: luke3026 on 04.03.2010 at 12:41 pm in Square Foot Gardening Forum Last year, I followed Mel's instructions of making trellises out of 1/2" EMT conduit placed over rebar hammered into the ground. But the elbows he recommends (metals ones with screws) are about $5/ea around here -- would have cost me $40 in elbows for my setup. At Lowes I found some 1/2" PVC elbows, threaded on both ends. I hammered these onto the trellises and they seemed to hold pretty well, and at $0.50/ea. I really liked the price. Well, after one season they are still holding up well. A couple popped off when moving them for storage, but I was able to pound them back on. So it seems as though they'd last at least a couple years, and are cheap to replace. Just a suggestion for the budget-conscious SFG'ers out there.
Here is a link that might be useful: Garden blog NOTES: <none>
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Improving your 6x8 HFGH
posted by: dewey1945 on 01.25.2013 at 11:22 am in Greenhouses & Garden Structures Forum HF greenhouse owners cite four major shortcomings for the 6x8 unit. Premature panel failure (poor UV protection), lack of headroom, flimsy aluminum framework, and the poor sliding door design. Here are some alternative building techniques you can consider to turn the HF greenhouse into a real bargain.
1) Cover the polycarbonate plastic panels with 4-year 6-mil UV film. Sorry I couldn't post up all the pictures and instructions here but this link will take you to the step-by-step account of how I built mine. http://www.instructables.com/id/Building-and-Improving-the-Harbor-Freight-6x8-Gree/ And thanks to all the others on this forum who have offered up their own "tweeks" for this greenhouse. It can be a real bargain for beginning gardeners. Feel free to post up any questions you might have here in this thread and I'll try to answer them. NOTES: http://www.instructables.com/id/Building-and-Improving-the-Harbor-Freight-6x8-Gree/
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Aluminet shade cloth screen panels for HFGH
posted by: mudhouse on 09.28.2007 at 01:00 am in Greenhouses & Garden Structures Forum I just replaced four polycarbonate panels on the south wall of my HFGH 10x12 with screen panels made from Aluminet shade cloth. I wanted to see if I could add ventilation and shade at the same time. (Click on any of the photos below for more detail.)
I used do-it-yourself window screen components (HD or Lowes.) You cut the metal frame pieces with a hack saw, and plug plastic corners into the ends. The screen is secured with spline pushed into the groove, using a spline tool.
I wanted to use the same glazing clips to secure the screen panels in the greenhouse frame, so I used the thinner 5/16" screen bars (not 7/16".) I had to build two cross braces into each tall frame. Without the cross braces, the stretchy Aluminet bowed in the long sides of the frame (almost an inch on each side.) The cross braces are attached with (wimpy) metal clips purchased separately. Aluminet has lines in the weave, and it stretches in the direction that�s perpendicular to the lines. In my screens the Aluminet lines ran vertically (the least stretchy way) but I think it would work in the other direction as well. It�s possible the cross braces wouldn�t be as critical if you installed the fabric so the most stretchy direction went lengthwise, instead of installing it like I did. Also, Aluminet has a seam every 7 feet, and one of my panels includes the seam. It worked fine. I cut the cloth so it was about an inch larger than the size of the frame.
I ordered 40% Aluminet because some cacti and succulent nurseries I know use 40%, but now I�m worried I should have ordered 50%. I also suspect (20-20 hindsight) that stretching the Aluminet somewhat taut opens the fabric and reduces the density further�in other words, the 40% cloth in a relaxed shape would probably create more shade than the 40% installed in my screens. (Something to keep in mind.) The 40% Aluminet was easy to secure with .140 size spline. I�m sure higher densities of Aluminet are thicker, but this material is so soft I think they�d still work. If it seemed too thick to fit into the groove, you could try smaller spline.
I trimmed the excess Aluminet with scissors, leaving about ďż˝" edge on the inside of the screen (I thought it might pull out if I trimmed it close.) This is how it looks inside the greenhouse.
I attached the Aluminet panels with the same glazing clips as the poly panels. I lined up the cross braces on the screens with the horizontal braces inside the greenhouse, thinking I might attach the screens with screws, using the holes I�d already drilled in the greenhouse braces for the poly panels...but the clips worked great by themselves.
I numbered the poly panels with a permanent marker before removing them. We didn�t carefully center each self-piercing screw, so I have to put each panel back in the same place to make sure it lines up with the screw hole in the brace. I really like the clean appearance and the increased ventilation! I don�t have to worry about the Aluminet blowing off. Before installing these, the temperature in my new greenhouse was at least 130� with the doors and roof vents open; with these panels in place, it�s much closer to the outside temperature. Installing the exhaust fan and shade cloth on the roof should help more. Of course, the downside is, summer rains will easily penetrate the screens. I�ll have to be aware of what I put on that side of the greenhouse. Annually, we have lots of heat and little rain, so I think it will be a worthwhile trade-off. I may add a clear plastic curtain on the inside of the south wall to be pulled into place during summer monsoon rains, if I don�t want my south bench to be drenched. Here�s what happens when you don�t consider screen placement when doing your electrical. Although we used GFIC outlets and in-use outlet covers, I didn�t plan on the back of the outlet being exposed to rain. I�ll have to figure out how to weatherproof the back, or live with a baggie over that outlet in the summer.
These Aluminet screens are too porous to be insect proof, but I don�t care. I do need to keep birds out; the Thrashers poke big holes in my succulents. When the night temps get cool, I�ll replace the screens with the poly panels. I tried leaving the screens in and putting the poly panels on top, but the combined thickness of the two layers won�t allow the glazing clips to fit in the channels, so I guess it�s one or the other. The cost for each 6 �� tall screen frame was about $12 (not including the Aluminet cost.) Of course, once you pay for the screen, it would be easy to change the density of the Aluminet or install regular screening. Anyway, in case others have considered trying this...that�s what I�ve learned!
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Disclosure's Label Deletes 'Help Me Lose My Mind' Video for Drugs
PMR Records pulled London Grammar-assisted 'Settle' clip shortly after it was posted
A new Disclosure video has left the world almost as quickly as it arrived. Only hours after a press release linked to the visuals for "Help Me Lose My Mind," a weightless collaboration with London Grammar Essential (and Mercury Prize-nominated) debut album Settle, the dance duo's label put down the kibosh. PMR Records issued a statement (via Stereogum) explaining that comments had noted drug use in the video and the label is against glamorizing drugs.
Read the full statement below. In the absence of "Help Me Lose My Mind" visuals, check out Paul Woolford's piano-house remix of the same track, or participate in Disclosure's interactive "Latch" video. And remember, always surf the Web soberly.
The video for Disclosure's new single "Help Me Lose My Mind" was revealed this morning and as with previous Disclosure videos, it was about the connection of people having a good time, something that Disclosure want associated with their music and what we hope people have done when they've seen the band live or while listening to their music. Unfortunately the video has received a few comments referencing the use of drugs within the video.
PMR feel very strongly against the glamorisation of drugs in any capacity and as such we have made the decision to remove the video.


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