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Can Muslims be Friends with non-Muslims?
A while back I visited the clubhouse of my apartment complex. While in the lobby, I noticed some young Arab-American brothers going into the pool area. So I looked out there and saw a whole group of guys with their hookahs, "chillin'" with the ladies in their bikinis, and other guys with their beer! Frustrated, I sought forgiveness from such a sight and looked away. But lo and behold! As I walked out, I noticed a good brother I knew from the Mosque on his way in to the pool party. So I stopped and greeted him, asking how he was doing. He said, "I am going to meet some people out back… and uh… don't worry they're Muslims!" So then I smiled and told him I was pretty sure what was going on in there had little to do with Islam, and to be careful. He responded, "Don't worry, we don't drink!" So I advised him as a Muslim he should hang out in a better environment and try and make better friends. He smiled and agreed. "Okay, Imam, insha'Allah (God willing)," he said, and then went ahead to the pool party.
As we said in the last article, there are good and bad people from all countries and cultures. Sure these brothers speak colloquial Arabic, they call themselves "Muslims", they would kiss the Qur'an and swear by Allah, but if I had the choice for my son, I would rather he hung out with more morally observant non-Muslims. Obviously the best company for any Muslim would be other devout Muslims who encourage each other to achieve piety, always hoping to follow the example of the Prophet ﷺ (peace be upon him).
That being said, the question has been brought up: can a Muslim be friends with a non-Muslim? When I embraced Islam, I remember reading translations of the Qur'an and hearing people say that having a non-Muslim friend is prohibited in Islam! I am sure we have all heard "religious" Muslims repeat the claim. Is Islam some exclusivist religion, or is it Divine Mercy for the world?
Some scholars have interpreted some verses of the Qur'an to give this meaning. These scholars generally come from and live in Muslim countries that have only a very small non-Muslim minority, if any. My biggest concern is that linguistically, and according to the commentary of the early scholars, these verses are better understood to mean not friends in the personal sense, but political allies or guardians from those who have an agenda against Muslims. Every single verse that seems to give that meaning was revealed in Medina, when Muslims were being constantly plotted against by non-Muslims and Hypocrites, who claimed Islam outwardly, yet secretly worked with the plotting disbelievers against the Muslims.
Why pick the harshest, most alienating and decontextualized understanding of a verse and pass that on in a general fatwa (legal verdict given on a religious basis), to be copied and pasted all over the Internet? And after that major error in scholarship, why do translators of the Qur'an pick that harsh and flawed interpretation to go into a book that will be spread where Muslims are expected to convey Islam as a small minority with little influence in society? Muslims are in such grave need of real, high-quality scholarship with deep and insightful wisdom.
Let us take a look at some verses that are often misinterpreted in that way.
"Believers should not take disbelievers as 'awliyaa' to the exclusion of the believers. Whoever does so will have disconnected themselves from God…"" (Qur'an, 3:28)
The Imam of all Qur'anic commentators, Al-Tabari, makes it clear that this verse is to be understood within the context of hypocrisy and betrayal against the Muslims. He says, "This is God the Almighty and Exalted prohibiting the believers from taking disbelievers as political supporters. Muslims should not support disbelievers against other Muslims, exposing the weakness of the Muslims to them. Whoever does so is separated from God; considered as a deserter of faith."
Clearly, the verse is not talking about having non-Muslim friends in general, regardless how close you are to them. The word which is used here—awliyaa'—is not the word any Arab uses to mean "friend", even a close friend. Historically, Arabs have used rafeeq, sadeeq or sahib to refer to friends and acquaintances. Awliyaa', on the other hand, is the plural of waliy, which is usually used in the context of political support or guardianship. God is Al-Waliy, which means the Guardian and Supporter of the believers, not the "The Friend". The term waliy al-amr means someone's legal guardian (for example, their parents). When referring to the state, it means the ruler.
It is clear from both context and linguistics that the stronger interpretation relates to the seriousness of hypocrisy in Muslims who take non-Muslims as political allies against other Muslims. The application of this verse to our lives here in the United States, for example, might be not to support the Republican Party or take your information from Fox News. It could also be used as a prohibition against joining the military, given the current policy which does not value the sovereignty of Muslim lands or the sanctity of the lives of Muslim civilians. However, in no way could the verse be understood to prohibit us from making friends with our neighbors, co-workers, or schoolmates.
In another verse from surat Al-Ma'idah, God says:
"Dear Believers! Don't take the Jews and the Christians as awliyaa', they are but awliyaa' of each other. And if any amongst you takes them as awliyaa', then surely, he is one of them. Verily, God doesn't guide the oppressors." (Qur'an, 5:51)
Again, the point is clarified by our great scholars of Qur'anic commentary. Imam Al-Tabari comments on this verse, "The early generations have differed about this verse. Some said it was for all believers, and others said it was specific to a contextual event in the prophetic biography regarding hypocrites and certain treacherous Jews in Medina." He then cites various evidence from the sunnah (traditions and practices of the Prophet ﷺ) which endorses the latter opinion.
Imam Al-Qurtubi is another giant in Qur'anic commentary. He was born in Cordoba, Spain and during his life made many non-Muslim friends on various occasions. In his own explanation of the verse, he cites the same difference of opinion yet again and he gives a detailed preference to the evidence from the cause of revelation and the context of application mentioned in the sunnah.
"This is referring to the Hypocrites. The understood meaning is 'O open claimants to faith, yet who secretly support the polytheists by informing them of the internal matters of Muslims.'" He then goes on to give many examples from the biography of the Prophet ﷺ.
Some modern commentators and translators—attempting balance in their approach—claim that one is not allowed to love or have an intimate relationship with non-Muslims. This claim is baseless in the classic scholarly commentary of the previous verses. Such a claim is very hard to substantiate when you consider that in the 5th verse of surat al-Ma'ida God permits marrying Jews and Christians and in surat al-Room God defines marriage as based in loving affection and compassion. Supporters of this erroneous claim rely on the following verse:
"You will not find a people who believe in God and the Last Day having affectionate love for those who have enmity to God and His messenger even if it be their parents, sons, brothers or other family members…"(Qur'an, 58:22)
The various commentaries noted that this verse was revealed after the battle of Badr, when Abu Ubaidah bin al-Jarrah killed his father. Again, there is a big difference between one who says they respectfully don't believe in or follow Islam and one who has openly declared themselves an enemy of Islam, outwardly expressing hatred and enmity towards Islam and Muslims.
Admittedly, a famous axiom of Qur'anic commentary states that the meaning of a text should be considered in its generality, and not in the specific circumstance in which it was revealed. However, scholars have argued that this axiom cannot apply to all things, as this would create much strife and iniquity, particularly in regards to verses dealing with a just war. That is not to say, of course, that verses of the Qur'an were only revealed for specific situations and are thus void of benefit thereafter; that would negate the purpose of revealing it in a book of universal guidance. The correct position is that understanding the context of a verse helps in understanding its proper future application.
Even disregarding the context of the above-mentioned verses, it is clear to the observant reader that they do not prohibit us from having non-Muslim friends. The contextual traditions merely serve to solidify the point and give clarity for future applications of the laws.
So what does Islam teach about having non-Muslim friends? The following three verses will help clear away any confusion regarding the topic.
"Perhaps God will bring loving affection between you and your enemies as God is Omnipotent. God is Forgiving and Merciful. God would not prohibit you from dealing good and fair with people who have not expelled you from your land or fought against your religion. He only prohibits you from any loyalty to those who have fought your religion and worked to expel you from your land. Whoever would have loyalty to such people are undoubtedly the iniquitous." (Quran, 60:7-9)
To my knowledge, all scholars are in agreement that the first of these verses is a miraculous prophecy, giving hope to the Muslims in early Medina that many of the leaders of the anti-Islam campaign from Mecca will embrace Islam. The second verse clarifies that the reason behind the enmity between Muslims and the tribe of Quraysh was because these people had abused, tortured, humiliated and ultimately expelled the Muslims from their homeland on account of their religion. If they had not done that, there would have been no enmity, rather mutual peace and respect.
As a rule of thumb, verses of the Qur'an that mention non-Muslims in harsh or severe terms refer only to those non-Muslims who have fought against Muslims and have openly expressed enmity towards them.
That being said, we continuously hear that America is fighting a war against Muslims, and so we should beware of its evil intentions toward Islam. However, the fact is that America is not fighting a war against Muslims. There is a military policy enforced by our representative style government known as a republic. The congressmen and the president's administration have a complex policy on its "war on terror". The policy has many sincere supporters who honestly think they are doing good in ridding the world of terror and threats to humanity. In many cases time and time again, they do this on false or faulty intelligence. Much evidence shows that the possible source of such faulty intelligence is a more sinister element in our government, that serves to defend imperial political ambitions and exploit natural resources of Muslim lands. Such a group is not representative of America any more than heretical jihadist groups represent the Muslims. It is completely unfair to judge all Americans by the corruption of a small group among them.
Surely one of the best ways to combat the bad image of Islam in America is through devout Muslims befriending their fellow countrymen among non-Muslims. Then they will come to know the truth of Islam by experiencing it firsthand. We should be strong in our faith and not feel threatened by people with different values. If we remain reclusive in our homes, mosques and restaurants, then we leave the media and those working against us to define us to the masses.
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Well said alhumdulillah:)
It resonates my feelings perfectly
Jazakallahu khair! -
Dear writer, what a beautiful article, may Allah reward you for the time, efforts, and understanding, and presenting the beautiful ideas and contexts of Islam to society in general, in more elaborate forms for non-Muslims and Muslims who are not aware of these truths in Islam, but rather view Islam from a blind eye that cannot see the real picture, the right way.
Only Allah(AWJ)know your reward, and may Allah raise you in knowledge, that you be one of the tongues that communicates the truth for all humanity, that clears that all the people are Allah's dependents .عن أنس قال: قال رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم:
"الخلق عيال الله فأحبهم إلى الله أنفعهم لعياله".Explanation:
"All creatures/people are the dependents of Allah. The most beloved of them to Allah is he who is most beneficial to his family or (to his dependents "
(or who treat His dependants kindly)عيال in this context doesn't mean children. it means dependents who Rely on or require the aid of another for support. the creatures need help and support of Allah and the family needs help and support of Head of Household.
and share understanding and unity and the mercy of Islam that came to all humanity in whole.
Jazakum Allah khairan, -
If being muslims, we are going to take such things out of context then its going to push people away from Islam and muslims. Islam is a mercy to the worlds, we are to call people to islam and not push them away. Great post! It clears a lot of misconceptions. JazakAllah Khair
Beautiful article! Absolutely echoes my thoughts. Jazakallah khair, Imam.
"Do not keep company with anyone but a believer and do not let anyone eat your food but one who is pious." (Narrated by al-Tirmidhi, 2395; Abu Dawood, 4832. Abu 'Eesa al-Tirmidhi said: this hadeeth is hasan. It was also classed as hasan by al-Albaani in Saheeh al-Tirmidhi, 2519).
"Do not live among the mushrikeen and do not mix with them, for whoever lives among them or mixes with them is not one of us." (Narrated by al-Bayhaqi, 9/142; al-Haakim, 2/154. He said, it is saheeh according to the conditions of al-Bukhaari. The hadeeth was also classed as saheeh by al-Albaani in al-Silsilat al-Saheehah, 2/229 with its corroborating reports).
What is your opinion on the above two hadeeth? We deal justly with non-muslims and be acquaintances to them, but is close friendship with non muslims still allowed?
Assalaamu 'alaykum.
"O Fudayk establish prayer, pay Zakâk and abandon bad deeds and live with your people (the unbelievers) wherever you like." [Related by Ibn Hibbân – all narrators are truthful].Ahmad also related a hadîth which is evidence for living in non-Muslim countries. The Prophet (peace be upon him) said: "The countries are Allah's countries and the people are Allah's servants, so wherever you find good (living atmosphere), you may live."
The Prophet (peace be upon him) permitted a group of Meccan Muslims to reside in Mecca before its conquest, including al-`Abbâs b. `Abd al-Muttalib [as related by al-Hâkim] and Abû al-`As [as related by al-Hâkim and al-Bayhaqî]
The Prophet (peace be upon him) also said: "Whoever believes in Allah and His Messenger, establishes prayer, and fasts Ramadân, Allah will admit him into Paradise whether he goes forth to strive in the way of Allah or remains in the land of his birth.." If staying in the land of the unbelievers had been forbidden, the Prophet (peace be upon him) would not have given them a choice between staying or leaving.
[taken from http://en.islamtoday.net/node/1380 and http://en.islamtoday.net/node/1384
As for the first hadith you quoted, Allah knows best, but it's worth knowing that often some meanings get lost in translations.
The missing bit from hadeeth like this, is context. I'm not a scholar but based on the Qur'an it seems to match those verses intended for when Muslims were oppressed or when under attack.
So if I were to make a decision for myself, I would assume that the missing context must be the same as the context for those similar Qur'anic verses. Since the alternative explanation (that these are for general application) would contradict other Qur'anic verses and other saheeh hadith enjoining good relations with neighbours (including non-Muslims), dealing kindly with them in the hope that they will believe, etc. Since the second is impossible for me to accept as a Muslim, then the first is the likelier explanation.
Mashallah, my teacher Br.Mohammed, told me about this website, and I just had to check it out, and I read many of the articles on this website, and began repenting to Allah (swt) for all the bad things I have done, and my whole life changed!!! All thanks to my teacher Br. Mohammed Haque!!!
Salaam Alaykum:
I live near a major university, that has about 30% Muslims from KSA. I am not so concerned about the men and their hookah, but them sitting around with American girls in Bikini is haram.
And the girls easily like the very handsome Middle Eastern men, and are easy to date, and the guys sometimes get the girls pregnant, and then call them sluts or impure. I have a clue for you men. You are supposed to have superior Deen, and actually should be protecting and instructing these girls, not taking advantage of them.
I have seen this often and it makes me sad. I warn American girls off when I see it happening but mostly they do not listen.
It is haram to cause another to sin and then blame them.
These men are guilty of a major sin, zina – for which they have to answer to Allah for.
These women on the other hand, maybe able to be excused, as they may not know…these men don't really have such an excuse.
And if these women convert to Islam, all their sins are forgiven and they start afresh. They can be confident of this once they accept Islam.
As for these men, if they sincerely repent, Allah will forgive them. But they can't be sure until the Day of Judgement that they really have been forgiven.
We have to remember in such instances that Allah is all Just, all Wise…
Bottom line is that Islam existed peacefully in this country for hundreds of years before 9/11. The American Muslim is nothing new, Malcolm X was an American Muslim and there were millions American Muslims before him that lived peacefully with their non-Muslim counterparts. In the eighties and nineties Islam was respected in this country, it is only post 9/11 that you find non-Muslim Americans who hate Islam and it is my belief that some Eastern Islamic culture and racism continuously provokes this hate. If Islam existed in America peacefully for hundreds of years and it's only taken a decade to ruin those alliances that black Muslims built with other American non-Muslims, this shows that the problem isn't Islam.
Plainly, not to sound too paranoid, what happened post 9/11 was the media and some in the government engaging in the most evil character assassination I can think of.
I left the Evangelical Church because people like John Hagee and others were preaching such evil hate that I knew it had nothing to do with the standards that Jesus the Christ taught.
The teaching about the ONE God was what drew me to Islam, and in spite of the fact that a white American woman who does not speak Arabic, has a very tough time in Islam, there are truths in it that are not to be ignored.
And, in Islam, any non-conformity in thought will get you in a lot of trouble, so you have to keep that to yourself.
"And, in Islam, any non-conformity in thought will get you in a lot of trouble, so you have to keep that to yourself."
Totally agree sis, oddly enough, I've actually received a fair share of criticism from married converts who were single Muslimahs less than six months or so before getting hitched and are totally high on their husbands theologies. The more women that convert to Islam the more diversity there is in our style and stories which I think is pretty awesome.
On the subject at hand though…yeah we can't pretend that media propaganda hasn't played a huge factor in the way that Muslims are perceived.People should befriend themselves to those that will bring more love, benefit and beauty to their lives than harm, honestly sometimes non-Muslims are more supportive of freedom in faith than Muslims so this is something to consider.
I went inactive for 2 years, and have just returned. When I first converted, I was briefly Niqabi, but that is very hard in America though I still have mine and have considered what it would take to make me wish to wear it.
I don't plan to go to Masjid or mix with Muslim culture here in Portland again. Though we are to Hijab for Allah SWT, and I understand it. 2/3 of white American women who become Muslims stop being Muslim and I think that some need to think hard on what the Qur'an teaches and what is merely tribal custom and not required.
It has heartened me recently to see the moderate Muslims speaking out, showing husband and wife together, and being happy. It is good that the Haram Police are not heard from so much. In this culture, I must be trusted to have both woman and men friends with out doing haram.
In Islam, it seems that the radical haters are less heard from and that is good.
Ma Salaam
Assalam alaykum.
what do we really mean when we talk about 'haram police'?. i was thinking as Muslims we are commanded in the Qur'an to enjoin what is good and forbid what is wrong.
so if i see a sister doing something wrong, i let her know- 'oh my sister, i read in the Qur'an or hadeeth that what you are doing is wrong, so please stop it and pray to Allah to make it easy for you to stop it'.
i admonish her but that does not mean i'm trying to put her down and i still don't love her for Allah's sake.
everyone wishes to be a better Muslim with each day; better than we were born or when we accepted the deen. we want to be amongst the foremost /successful in the hereafter.
May Allah forgive us our sins and grant us al jannatul firdaus. Ameen.
Wa Alaykum Salaam:
Meekly and in love I say that there are dozens of things that people criticize others over. And I make it a point not to talk to someone about their error, if I struggle with the same thing.
If for example I wear a Hijab that is too short when wrapped on my head and exposes glimpses of my neck because I can not afford to get a high neck top until pay day, I will likely not Hijab at all if someone corrects me. I do my best and no one knows the reason for my infraction.
When I was first Muslim Niqabi, I used gloves and socks too. Now that I an not Niqabi if I do not know if I should still use gloves and socks or no. And I will get a dozen different opinions on the matter. And there are conflicting Fatwas on it.
Muslims are far too adept at criticizing and tearing at each other. And, I am Northern European living in America and can easily just not Hijab. I can get away with it, if people make the burden too heavy.
I resumed Hijab on my own and when people are mean to me, it is easy to just give up.
A very nice article on the subject. I am looking for some info if anyone can help. My son in law is a muslim and comes from a Moroccan muslim family. He is very devout. We get on very well. I would like him to come to my 40th birthday party. My wife an I do not drink alcohol, though some of my family do. Is it allowed for him to come as he is not sure. We would very much llike him to be there as it is nice toto have him in the family.
2:63. "Surely, the Believers, and the Jews, and the Christians and the Sabians-whichever party from among these truly believes in Allah and the Last Day and does good deeds-shall have their reward with their Lord, and no fear shall come upon them, nor shall they grieve".
This verse from the Holy Quran seems to say there are "believers" among the other religions – those who believe in the One God and do their duty towards Him. Therefore, befriending such persons would be different than those who would scoff at Islam.-
Assalamualaikum wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuh
There are numerous ayat which make it clear that Jews and Christians who do not enter Islam are disbelievers. From an article on this very website,
The Mujahid Hadith
The second hadith (record of the words or actions of the Prophet ﷺ) is from Mujahid, also about the conversion of Salman to Islam and the subsequent revealing of the verse "Surely those who believe…" In this account:
Salman told the Prophet ﷺ about those Christians and what he had seen of their works, and he replied, "They did not die upon Islam." Salman said, "The whole earth darkened around me," and he recounted their spiritual rigors. Then this verse was revealed, so the Prophet ﷺ summoned Salman and told him, "This verse has been revealed about your companions." Then he added, "Whoever dies upon the religion of Jesus and in submission [lit. "upon Islam"] before he hears of me is in goodly state. But whoever hears of me today and does not believe in me has perished," (Tabari, 1.323).
Tabari comments:
Therefore, the correct interpretation (ta'wil) of the verse is what we have just mentioned from Mujahid and Suddi; that those who believe of this Umma [community], and those who were Jews, and the Christians, and Sabaeans: whoever believed—of the Jews, Christians, and Sabaeans—in God and the Last Day, "their wage awaits them with their Lord; no fear shall be upon them, nor shall they sorrow." The interpretation we first mentioned [in his Qur'anic exegesis a few pages earlier, that "whoever believes in and acknowledges the Resurrection after death on Judgement Day, and does good deeds, obeying God, shall have their reward with their Lord"] is closest to the literal content of the text, for Allah (exalted is His praise) has not chosen one segment of humanity above the rest in rewarding good works when they are accompanied by true faith. [Tabari, 1.320, 323–24, trans. Keller]
Ibn Kathir also states in his Tafsir:
[After narrating that the verse was revealed as mentioned by Suddi] The faith of the Jews was that of whoever adhered to the Torah and the sunnah [tradition] of Moses (upon whom be peace) until the coming of Jesus. When Jesus came, whoever held fast to the Torah and the sunnah of Moses without giving them up and following Jesus was lost.
The faith of the Christians was that whoever adhered to the Evangel and precepts of Jesus, their faith was valid and acceptable until the coming of Muhammad ﷺ. Those of them who did not then follow Muhammad ﷺ and give up the sunnah of Jesus and the Evangel were lost.
The foregoing is not contradicted by the hadith relating that the verse "Surely those who believe, those of Jewry, the Christians, and the Sabaeans—whoever has faith in Allah and the Last Day…" (2:62), was followed by Allah's revealing: "Whoever seeks other than Islam as a religion shall never have it accepted of him, and he shall be of those who have truly failed in the next life," (Qur'an 3:85), for the hadith merely confirms that no one's way or spiritual works are acceptable unless they conform to the Sacred Law of Muhammad ﷺ now that he has been sent with it. As for people prior to this, anyone who followed the messenger of his own time was guided, on the right path, and was saved. [Tafsir al-Qur'an al-'Adhim, 1.283, trans. Keller]
As explained, 2:62 refers to the Muslims before the advent of the final Messenger sallahuaalayhiwasalam.
As-salaam-u-alaykum brothers and sisters
Great article! I have to say I did find it but disturbing when I read verses like 5:51 but that is because I am a lay person. If one does not know the context the verses were written as well as the understanding of the Arabic Fuhsa then it is a known fact that we lose a lot of the meaning in the English translation – that is why the original language of the Quran is maintained and not converted to another language unlike the unfortunate Bible of today which has been based on Koine Greek or Latin translations, and not the original Aramaic translation. And we can see how one word like Awliyaa can have such an impact on muslims and non-muslims alike. If we clumsily translate it as 'friend' then lay people like me will believe it as such, and this creates more damage than good in the long run. Islam is for everyone, it is not just for the Arabs, the Africans and Indians. Allah (SWT) has made Islam for everyone and anyone – we are all invited to it! Doesn't matter if you're white, Polynesian, Inuit, Far Eastern, Aborigine or a Native American! I mean if we took the verses literally and we weren't allowed to make friends with the non-muslims then how will Allah's Message spread? How many of us would have actually turned to Islam had it not been for our Muslim friends??? Now there is wisdom behind making our close companions muslims after all we think alike and can respect each other's actions. BUT that doesn't mean we shun our non-muslim friends if they are respectable to you and your faith. Also we need to realise that not all Muslims will think like us and not all non-muslims will act as druggies and drunkard nightclubbers! I mean there have been times when I felt more nervous praying whilst in the company of "mildly practising muslims" than in the company of decent non-Muslim friends…sounds weird and I am sorry to say that but that has been my experience. Basically be very careful whom you choose as your friends as they can affect you mentally, spiritually, financially, morally and physically.
Also may the brother of this wonderful article write the references regarding Imams At-Tabari and Al-Qurtubi's opinions of the verse 5:51. Much appreciated!And on a final note Ali (ra) once said, "Every human is either your brother in faith, or your equal in humanity".
Salaam just wanted to ask regarding Quran 5:51 – which Christians at the time were fighting against the Muslims? We know the Jews of Medina were acting treacherously with the Muslims, but who of the Christians at the time were doing the same thing? Is it referring to the Christians of Najran?
As Salaam Alaykom:
This is 2014, not the 7th century. With what is going on in the world today, this is no time to be saying that Muslims can not be friends with non Muslims. If I were young, I would be fighting ISIS in Iraq.
And, if we are not friends with others then how else can be converts?


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COD Professional Massage Clinic
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Holly H
Jan 28, 2015
http://www.genbook.com/bookings/slot/reservation/30190663Great Experience
I had a massage with one of the students Danielle. I was quite pleased with the experience. She focused on the areas that I asked and used firm pressure as I requested. I was somewhat sore the next day but that is to be expected. I was very pleased with the experience. I will be coming back in the future.
Customer since January 2015
James Kowalski
Jan 26, 2015
http://www.genbook.com/bookings/slot/reservation/30190663Just Right
Very professional, competent massage. The masseuse focused on the areas I asked her to, and did an excellent job overall.
Customer since January 2015
Jan 19, 2015
http://www.genbook.com/bookings/slot/reservation/30190663Competent massuese
The student made me feel comfortable, and the massage itself was just what I had wanted. I can recommend the COD massage clinic.
Customer since December 2014
Dec 16, 2014
http://www.genbook.com/bookings/slot/reservation/30190663Great massage
I will be returning!! I felt so much better thanks to COD massage clinic. The student was knowledgeable, professional and friendly. Loved it!
Customer since November 2014
Wendy Zeni
Dec 14, 2014
http://www.genbook.com/bookings/slot/reservation/30190663great massage for a great price
Very good massage for a good price. The student was very polite and spent time on the parts I requested.
Customer since June 2014
Noelle Hurley
Dec 11, 2014
http://www.genbook.com/bookings/slot/reservation/30190663Fantastic and relaxing massage
Joe did a fantastic job of making me feel relaxed and targeted some areas that I had mentioned were problems for me. Most of the soreness in those areas disappeared after his massage--which was great. I will definitely be back and will request him specifically next time.
Customer since November 2014
Dec 8, 2014
http://www.genbook.com/bookings/slot/reservation/30190663Student K was persistent on resolving every knot
Student K was very polite and professional. Student K inquired about my history and needs, and Student K focused on my problem area. Student K was able to change the pressure for my problem area, and Student K checked multiple times to make sure the pressure was not too much. My shoulder and back sounded like popcorn popping, because there were a lot of knots that had to be worked out. However, I feel that Student K was persistent on resolving every knot that I had. I felt like a new person.
Customer since December 2014
Anupama Buzruk
Nov 24, 2014
http://www.genbook.com/bookings/slot/reservation/30190663Very professional and methodical work
The music was very comforting, Kim gave very good massage with perfect pressure and I could feel the relaxation for quite a few hours after the massage.
Customer since November 2014
Oct 21, 2014
Phil did the cranial-sacral massage on my back and neck, my back feels looser and the pains are much less.
Customer since October 2014
Sep 29, 2014
http://www.genbook.com/bookings/slot/reservation/30190663Phil - thanks for the best massage of my life!
I've recently had Swedish massages at numerous places around this area and they all seemed to be pretty generic until I tried COD. I have lower back and right shoulder injuries and pain and Phil sure knew how to address it. Professional, personable, trustworthy and friendly........... Phil -- I will see you soon for another amazing massage!
Customer since September 2014
jan dimasi
Sep 16, 2014
http://www.genbook.com/bookings/slot/reservation/30190663Phil is talented and worth your time.
i have received several massages from Phil. i always feel better and more functional after seeing him. the thai massage stretches out my muscle limitations, leaving me pain free.
Customer since October 2013
Nina Papanikolla
Sep 7, 2014
http://www.genbook.com/bookings/slot/reservation/30190663Prenatal Massage
I am four months pregnant and this was my first prenatal massage. Jean was very attentive and professional, tending to the aches and pains associated with my pregnancy first and then proceeding with her massage routine. I was completely relaxed and left there feeling rested and re-energized. This was my second time at the COD Professional Massage Clinic and both experiences were amazing!
Customer since January 2014
Carol Ferguson
Jul 28, 2014
http://www.genbook.com/bookings/slot/reservation/30190663Top Notch
My therapist was professional and highly skilled, providing one of the best overall massages I've ever had. She listened to my requests for level of pressure I preferred and areas to focus on, and proceeded accordingly. My only regret is, she is about to graduate so I'll have to find someone new.
Customer since July 2014
Jared Radkiewicz
Jul 26, 2014
My therapist was top notch, as good as or better than the best I've encountered at commercial establishments.
Customer since July 2014
one who is not obnoxious
Jul 12, 2014
http://www.genbook.com/bookings/slot/reservation/30190663great therapist, unfortunate loud lady client
The massage therapist was very good, she will be very successful. Unfortunately, there was a female client who was very loud, continually talking about nothing. It never seemed to occur to her that everyone else receiving massage therapy was quiet and respectful of a calm atmosphere. It was annoying and disruptive. My therapist mentioned this to the gentleman in charge of clinic. He informed me after the massage that he couldn't ask her to be quieter because "some people just like to talk".
Customer since June 2014
Wendy Zeni
Jun 29, 2014
http://www.genbook.com/bookings/slot/reservation/30190663Great massage for a great price!
Great massage for a great price! The COD Massage clinic is very professional. The student was skilled and polite. It is one of the best massages I've had.
Customer since June 2014
Verónica Sanchez
Jun 21, 2014
http://www.genbook.com/bookings/slot/reservation/30190663Great Joint work
I love working with all the different therapist. They all have a unique way of working and provide with their own techniques. Very clean and professional staff. Great job ladies.
Customer since May 2014
Jun 19, 2014
Very good. Professional, well run organization. The session was relaxing and great for stress relief.
Customer since May 2014
Joe C
Jun 18, 2014
http://www.genbook.com/bookings/slot/reservation/30190663Unique Massage Experience - Excellent!
Wow! My first Thai massage and also first experience of Chinese Tuina technique... Phil is incredible on the pro side of the house... students doing great work as well. I play basketball and I'm aging- I've always got something pulled, strained, etc. Phil's unique combination of techniques helps me stretch and recover and get back on the court. I continue to be impressed by both student therapists and the pros at COD Massage Clinic.
Customer since June 2014
Brita S
Jun 10, 2014
http://www.genbook.com/bookings/slot/reservation/30190663massage clinic at COD
Excellent massage by Tammy. As good, if not better, than any massage I've received at a spa and, for alot less money! Highly recommend!
Customer since June 2014
Veronica S
Jun 7, 2014
http://www.genbook.com/bookings/slot/reservation/30190663Great Service
Great service by Nicole. She was able to work problem area and finish right on time with a full body massage.
Customer since April 2014
Jun 6, 2014
http://www.genbook.com/bookings/slot/reservation/30190663massage with Pam
Have had Pam in the past. Massage was good. She worked on my usual tight spots and gave a suggestion for a stretch to help keep me loosened up.
Customer since December 2012
Nancy Gouch
Jun 1, 2014
http://www.genbook.com/bookings/slot/reservation/30190663Massage with Nicole
Difficulty finding the massage clinic aside, the session was really good. I received a thorough, full-body massage with close attention to areas damaged through injury and arthritis. I plan to return to the COD massage clinic often - the service is great and you can't beat the price. And now that I know to enter the SRT on the East end of the building, finding the spot should be easy! Thanks Nicole Clay! My back and knee feel great!
Customer since May 2014
May 31, 2014
http://www.genbook.com/bookings/slot/reservation/30190663ridiculous maze
Searched for the room for 45 minutes before giving up. Signage in the college is a joke. Seems to me the reason this place isn't doing better business is that nobody can locate it. Won't be rebooking.
Customer since May 2014
Robert Anderson
May 8, 2014
http://www.genbook.com/bookings/slot/reservation/30190663AARP Member
Pam did an expert job of finding and unwinding lots of tight muscles. Soft lighting and peaceful music made for a relaxing hour. She tailors her approach to what you want - I selected "intense" and was glad I did.
Customer since April 2014
Mar 31, 2014
http://www.genbook.com/bookings/slot/reservation/30190663Great massage
My massage was with Phil. He did a great job of addressing the tightness in my back. He also gave tips to continue to work on the tightness after the massage. It was a great experience - I am going back.
Customer since March 2014
Mar 21, 2014
Pam is a regular part of my training regimen. As a runner I am convinced that massage is essential to maintaining mobility and enhancing recovery. Pam is fantastic at knowing just what needs work and taking care of it. I highly recommend her.
Customer since December 2013
Paula Ferguson
Mar 10, 2014
http://www.genbook.com/bookings/slot/reservation/30190663Happy Client
I have had two massages and both have been exceptional. I have given massages to my sister and neice and all of us walk out feeling revived and renewed as a result!. They both really enjoy Phil's attention and detail to their aches. We are repeat customers.
Customer since September 2013
Don Inman
Feb 27, 2014
http://www.genbook.com/bookings/slot/reservation/30190663as requested
Why does this form say minimum 100 characters required? Who wants to write more than they desire too.
Customer since January 2014
jan dimasi
Feb 19, 2014
http://www.genbook.com/bookings/slot/reservation/30190663Thai massage with Phil
Phil is a talented therapist. he is able to help me with several painful body problems using gentle firm pressure. The Thai massage is increasing my flexibility, Phil allows time for me to let go of the tension and helps me get a deep stretch.
Customer since October 2013
Jan 15, 2014
http://www.genbook.com/bookings/slot/reservation/30190663Massage was great/check in not so great
My massage with Donna was wonderful. Checking in for the massage proved stressful though. Allow yourself plenty of time as the check in process can take a LONG time. Also...they had no change so make sure you bring along the correct amount of cash to leave a tip.
Customer since January 2014
Nina Papanikolla
Jan 14, 2014
http://www.genbook.com/bookings/slot/reservation/30190663Very relaxing!
My husband got me with two gift certificates for Christmas. I didn't even know that COD offered these services and I was a little hesitant going to a college for a massage, but it was one of the BEST massages I ever had! My main goals were to relax and relieve stress. Jean was very knowledgeable and professional. She made me feel comfortable and she was great in understanding the body. I would highly recommend the COD massage clinic to others and plan on returning for future massages.
Customer since January 2014
naveeda athar
Jan 4, 2014
I had professional massages once a month at a local establishment. Once i had found COD massage clinic I have stopped going to the other place. My massage therapist Donna is great, she is expert in understanding the body and respects my wishes. I have made few appointments in last few months and would like to continue this practice
Customer since September 2013
Dec 23, 2013
http://www.genbook.com/bookings/slot/reservation/30190663Better each time
Before coming to COD, I only had one professional massage. (It was years ago and I wasn't impressed.) Since coming to their professional clinic and taking part in Eastern massage therapy techniques, I want to make it a monthly activity. Phil is excellent and intuitive, and makes each session unique to the issues and concerns I'm having.
Customer since February 2013
Dec 8, 2013
My first massage at COD and won't be the last. Very nice experience. Pam did a great job. She is very professional and knowledgable.
Customer since December 2013
Paula Ferguson
Oct 28, 2013
http://www.genbook.com/bookings/slot/reservation/30190663Happy Customer
I had a Reiki Massage with Jean and was very satisified when I left. I signed up for a sewdish massage and i'm giving two massages as gifts. Keep up the good work.
Customer since September 2013
jan dimasi
Oct 20, 2013
http://www.genbook.com/bookings/slot/reservation/30190663what a great massage, what bad directions
phil gave an excellent thai massage, it is very beneficial for me. I was warned about the parking being difficult on the day of my massage. i was not given adequate directions to find the room of the massage. the signage was terrible. i was 100 feet from the correct door yet there was no indication on the signage that i was so close. i walked a minimum of 1/2 mile trying to find the correct area .
Customer since October 2013
Oct 3, 2013
Pam loosened my neck and shoulders and finished up with a total body massage. I went home and promptly fell asleep. Very relaxing. Will certainly go again.
Customer since December 2012
Cynthia Koskiewicz
Sep 28, 2013
http://www.genbook.com/bookings/slot/reservation/30190663Surprisingly subtle yet profound results
Jean was my therapist, and she was very focused on relieving my pain and making long-term structural changes. I did not know that massage could actually do that. I will be returning again for more bodywork because I have more mobility and relief. Thank goodness!
Customer since September 2013
Jean G
Sep 24, 2013
I had not expected College of DuPage to have a professional massage therapy center. The experience was wonderful, my therapist was able to get all of the knots out of my back and I will definitly come back soon.
Customer since September 2013
Emily F
Sep 24, 2013
http://www.genbook.com/bookings/slot/reservation/30190663What a Treat!
Pam is certainly a skilled massage therapist. She found just what I needed in a massage and gave me the best possible relaxation / treatment experience. Her professionalism and friendly manner made me very comfortable. I felt great when I left!
Customer since September 2013
Sep 20, 2013
Donna did a great job. She listened to me and made me feel comfortable. The price doesn't reflect the quality of the massage and I would highly recommend taking advantage of this great service.
Customer since September 2013
Sep 15, 2013
http://www.genbook.com/bookings/slot/reservation/30190663Totally Impressed
What a great convenience of having a massage clinic on the campus of COD. I was not only impressed with the professionalism but also the experience. The price was awesome. Learned about a new type of massage (Thai) and loved it! Thank you Phil for recommending. It was like getting a work out without working. My sore back is no longer. Where was this 6 months ago when I was in Physical Therapy. Plan on making this a monthly practice.
Customer since September 2013
Mary Sablich
Sep 13, 2013
http://www.genbook.com/bookings/slot/reservation/30190663completely professional!
A wonderful, professional massage-I would not have known Kristin was a student. I have already made a second appointment.
Customer since August 2013
Barbara Moga
Sep 13, 2013
http://www.genbook.com/bookings/slot/reservation/30190663a great massage
Massage was wonderful. Clancy worked on some significant areas and I left feeling relaxed and stress free.
Customer since September 2013
Sep 7, 2013
http://www.genbook.com/bookings/slot/reservation/30190663Professional Massage
My experience was thoughtful and professional I would definitely recommend it and go back. She took a lot of time to address my needs & concerns. Thumbs way up The only thing I would change is that its a Hike to parking, and once in the building, its a huge trek to the department. That added a long time to my experience. The room was also kinda too cold. Even so, I will definitely be back .
Customer since August 2013
Ann R
Jul 21, 2013
http://www.genbook.com/bookings/slot/reservation/30190663Massage with Phil
Phil always does a great job. He listens to my issues and concerns and knows how to help relax me and make my aches and pains go away. I would highly recommend Phil, as he offers a better alternative to a normal massage.
Customer since March 2013
Jun 16, 2013
http://www.genbook.com/bookings/slot/reservation/30190663Massage Clinic
It was my first appointment, and I did not have to ask for the 1st time discount, it was offered. I intend to make another appointment. Room was simple, clean, adequate and the hours should fit into anyone's schedule. . The therapist was friendly, informative, found those knots, and applied pressure according to my request. I would recommend this clinic to friends and family and look forward to another treatment.
Customer since June 2013
Glen Ellyn Gal
Mar 22, 2013
http://www.genbook.com/bookings/slot/reservation/30190663Loosen up and relax
I have had 3 different professional massage therapists. Each one brought something different in the techniques used. The atmosphere is relaxing with pleasant music and quietness. It's nice to be able to take advantage of something close to home and a little less expensive than other places. I also left a tip even though the college tells you it's not necessary.
Customer since December 2012
Feb 22, 2013
http://www.genbook.com/bookings/slot/reservation/30190663GREAT therapy!
I have had many different experiences with massage. She not only gave me a great massage, but showed me practical stretches to help prevent the kinks from returning. COD is a BIG campus so get there early to find the place. Well worth the value and I recommend it. NO pressure to buy into any contract either! :-)
Customer since February 2013
Christine K
Feb 11, 2013
http://www.genbook.com/bookings/slot/reservation/30190663Convenient, professional
As a frequent massage therapy client, I was pleasantly surprised that I now have an option right on campus. I found the booking options very accommodating, the check-in process friendly and attentive, and the massage experience professional and therapeutic. The only thing missing was the high price tag.
Customer since January 2013
Trisha S
Feb 8, 2013
http://www.genbook.com/bookings/slot/reservation/30190663COD Massage clinic
I had a wonderful experience. Phil listened carefully to my concerns and made recommendations regarding the type of massage I should try. I left feeling great.
Customer since January 2013
Joe Cassidy
Feb 3, 2013
http://www.genbook.com/bookings/slot/reservation/30190663Wonderful experience!
In full disclosure, I work for COD, and I'm an avid subscriber to massage. Amy provided the the perfect balance of stretching and massage for me. I felt welcome, she listened to me and adjusted my treatment accordingly. I appreciated a full 60 minute (hour) instead of the standard 50 minute "hour" and I didn't feel rushed afterwards. I'll be booking again soon and also trying the other therapists. Great work Pat & team!
Customer since November 2012
James Allen
Jan 27, 2013
http://www.genbook.com/bookings/slot/reservation/30190663Massage Review
Amy was wonderful! I definitely plan to work with her again. One of the best massages I've had to date! My only complaint is that when I arrived for my appointment on Saturday, there was no one at the front desk to receive and brief me. Had I not stumbled on Amy getting set up, I might have left, thinking no one was there.
Customer since January 2013
Jan 24, 2013
http://www.genbook.com/bookings/slot/reservation/30190663Neck & Back issues
Very professional. Competitive $. On time appt. Pleased w/results. Will return. Tricky parking...
Customer since January 2013
Jan 10, 2013
I recently had a Massage at the COD Professional Massage Clinic with Amy and she is absolutely PHENOMINAL! I have had massages elsewhere and this was by far the best massage that I have ever had. She is extremely personable and did a great job customizing a massage that fit my needs. I would book another massage with her in a heart beat!
Customer since January 2013
Dec 9, 2012
http://www.genbook.com/bookings/slot/reservation/30190663good value
Therapist explained everything she was going to do. I was to tell her if there was pressure that was not acceptable to me. Loved the arm cradle on the table. Only negative was I thought the mood music was a little loud and at times not soothing but overall this was a pleasant experience. She also made a suggestion about another type of massage that was available that I might like to try. Would definitely go back.
Customer since December 2012
Nancy H
Dec 5, 2012
http://www.genbook.com/bookings/slot/reservation/30190663Asian massage - an experience I intend to repeat often!
I had a wonderful experience with the Asian massage that I received from Phil. He is a very gifted massage therapist. I told him that compared to what he did, Swedish massage is fluff! I came in to my massage session feeling the dull pain that seems to always be present in my lower back – in spite of being treated by a chiropractor. When I left Phil's session, I felt relief – and still have relief today. This was an amazing experience – one that I intend to repeat often.
Customer since November 2012
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Phone | (630) 942-2208 |
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IOWA CITY, Iowa (AP) -- A 24-year-old man who was shot twice during a 2012 undercover drug sting in Johnson County has been given 10 years in prison.
Demarco Dudley was sentenced on Monday. He'd pleaded guilty to a robbery charge in January.
One man died in the undercover drug buy at the Breckenridge Trailer Court near Iowa City on Aug. 16, 2012.
Authorities have said agent Daniel Stepleton went to a trailer as part of an undercover operation and was ambushed by masked men wielding weapons.
Police say Ivan Hardemon pointed a gun to Stepleton's head, but the agent grabbed his own weapon and fired. The 24-year-old Hardemon was killed and Dudley was hit twice. Investigators determined Stepleton acted in self-defense.
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Hello, we are looking to replace some windows and a sliding glass door in our home. I just found out that we are required to put in lowe3 windows due to California's Title 24. I know these windows cut out about a third of the light coming in and have a kind of (grayish? greenish?) tint to them. Do any of you have these in your home? How do you like them? I want to make sure the difference between the new windows and adjacent remaining windows isn't too great. Thanks! |
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With the title 24 requirements there's no reason you should need low-e -3/low-e 366. The most important thing is reaching .32 u factor which is very easy if you have a quality window. It could be easier to meet the cooling requirements with low e 3 glass but it is not required. But to answer your question Low-E 366 made by cardinal who many manufacturers use has a slight yellow tint to it but it's not very striking or as noticeable as you'd think. |
- Posted by mkotschnig (My Page) on Tue, Aug 5, 14 at 16:01
Thanks so much, Fenestration_Taylor! I was given the impression we had to use the lowe-3, so I appreciate knowing we might have other options. And, even if we did need to, I won't worry quite so much about how it looks. |
You were given correct information as 366 is required in all but three coastal zones in the state of California in order to reach the SHGC of .25 or lower. However, check with your local building department to see if they have adopted this. There are also tradeoffs as there are two methods of adoption: performance and prescriptive which I will not go into here. Get ready as I understand it, California is a testing ground and soon this will roll out across the other forty nine states. This involves a lot more than just windows but takes into account the entire building envelope. The target is a net zero energy use by 2020. |
- Posted by windowsonwashington (My Page) on Wed, Aug 6, 14 at 12:38
You got great advice above. In conjunction with eastbay10 comments, look carefully at the frame construction and air tightness numbers as well. |
- Posted by Fenestration_Taylor (My Page) on Wed, Aug 6, 14 at 16:38
Like I mentioned, it is not "required" to use 366 but you may need it to reach that shgc. But eastbay made a good point on checking with your local building department. |
- Posted by mkotschnig (My Page) on Fri, Aug 8, 14 at 18:53
I really appreciate all of you for this information. Boy, I thought I was just going to go out and buy some replacement windows, but there's a LOT that goes into the decision beyond "to muntin or not muntin," isn't there? Many thanks. |
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A Marine Corps reservist's career is hanging by a thread for accidentally sending a warning threat with the use of an unclassified email account, according to supporters. The warning, which was sent out in 2012 by Jason Brezler, revealed that an Afghan police official by the name of Sarwar Jan was a security threat. The warning included allegations of the sexual abuse of minors on U.S. bases inside Afghanistan. An aid to the Afghan official only a few days later opened fire and caused the death of 3 Marines.
Brezler's supporters say that his career has been a victim of political correctness and a real fear that the uncovering of information as part of his case will reveal the underbelly of U.S. policy in Afghanistan. Kevin Carroll, whose law firm Quinn, Emanuel, Urquhart & Sullivan is representing Brezler in the case, and in a statement to Fox News said this: "Brezler's immediate chain-of-command here in the U.S. did not recommend punitive action, and the Marine command in Afghanistan called for the relevant document in Brezler's case to be declassified, because there is no information in the document which, if released, would damage national security."
As soon as next month, Brezler will have to go before a board of inquiry where he could be forced out of the Marine Corps. It would result in an "Other than Honorable" discharge for sending the email from a Yahoo account instead of a secure source, even though Brezler openly reported the accident to his leadership.
Last summer Brezler was contacted by some of his fellow Marines in the Helmand Province of Afghanistan. They were asking for information regarding an Afghan Police official by the name of Sarwar Jan who was on a regular basis being allowed on U.S. Bases in an effort to train regional security forces prior to the 2014 withdrawal. Brezler immediately responded to the inquiry with information regarding the official's unethical conduct.
Back in July, a letter that was written to the Marine Commandant Gen. Jim Amos by Rep. Peter King, R-N.Y. stating it was believed than Jan was a potential security risk and that Brezler was trying to prevent more bloodshed. King further mentioned in the letter that It is "unfair for Maj. Brezler's good-faith effort to warn his fellow Marines, of what sadly proved to be mortal danger, to derail his reserve career. The Marines and the (New York City) Fire Department need more good men such as Maj. Brezler, not less," King wrote.
Despite the controversy of the situation there are still some people standing by Brezler which include the Medal of Honor recipient Dakota Meyer as well as Bing West who is a former assistant secretary of Defense who notified the board of inquiry in September stating that: "Brezler is an unvarnished leader. His unwavering quality comes through to other Marines and to the people and government officials in other lands. As Marines, we exist not to occupy space in cubicles. We're expeditionary. What counts is what we do in the field."
Francis Piccoli who is a Marine Corps Reserve Force spokesman who is headquartered in New Orleans made the following statement to Fox News: "Due to the impending Board of Inquiry for Maj. Brezler, it is inappropriate for me to address this issue at this time other than stating that pursuant to a NCIS investigation that substantiated the mishandling of classified information, Maj Brezler has been ordered to show cause for retention in the U.S. Marine Corps before a Board of Inquiry."
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(07-22-2012 10:49 AM)mkufta Wrote: Penn State broke zero NCAA penalties. I have no idea why the NCAA feels the need to penalize the athletes. I think that's such a shame. At the end of the day, Joe Paterno reported this to his superiors. He reported it to the head of the campus police department (which is a real police department). The Governor of Pennsylvania knew (you won't hear anything about that though). The Board of Trustees knew. But Joe is getting blasted from every angle while nothing is said about anyone else. Where's the hate for Mike McQueary who never went to police but instead went home and called his dad. Joe not using his power to ensure something was done is disappointing to me, but he's farrrrr from a criminal, if you read the facts.
(07-22-2012 07:03 PM)jacobystealshome Wrote: looks like they are going to fine the university at least 60 million, which will be donated to children's charities that isnt enough and you know what? current players can transfer, and the NCAA can give them special rules so they can transfer and not have to sit a year (so the players wouldnt be hurt that way) the whole program should be burned to the ground for at least 1 year, and better yet, 3 years. when they come back, they should not be allowed post-season play for 2 more years AND they should be fined 60 million (a drop in the bucket for the football program if it is allowed to continue)
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Saying Goodbye to Dr. Eric Freedman
UM-Flint's Psychology Department would like to extend deepest condolences to the family of Dr. Eric Gordon Freedman. Dr. Freedman, a longtime member of our Department, passed away on December 10th. Funeral services will be held Friday, December 12th, at 11am; friends and family will gather for Shiva from 7-9pm on Saturday. Click here for more about Dr. Eric Freedman.
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Throughout their careers, Chris Kraus and Eileen Myles have been tangentially - and sometimes centrally - engaged in art criticism and art writing, in addition to their poems, fiction and non-fiction writing. Both writers have a strong presence in the art world, and work consciously with compositional strategies frequently associated with visual art. Since meeting at the St. Marks Poetry Project in the late 1970s, Myles and Kraus have maintained a lively private dialogue about art and culture, life, politics and ideas. This will be their first public conversation.
Chris Kraus is the author of four novels, most recently SUMMER OF HATE, and two books of art and cultural criticism. "Lost Properties," her monograph on conceptual art and economic activism, was published as part of Semiotexte's contribution to the 2014 Whitney Biennial. With Hedi El Kholti and Sylvere Lotringer, she is a co-editor of Semiotexte, where she has edited Myles' NOT ME and THE IMPORTANCE OF BEING ICELAND. She writes frequently for art and cultural magazines, including Artforum, Spex, n+1 and Tank.
Eileen Myles is a poet and the author of eighteen collections of poetry, fiction, nonfiction, as well as libretti, performance pieces and plays. She wrote her first art review of a performance by Rene Ricard at the Guggenheim Museum in 1981. Since then she's written essays on Catherine Opie, K8 Hardy, Zoe Leonard, Sadie Benning, the intro to Chris's "I Love Dick" and her essay "Street Retreat" for the Whitney Biennial will be part of a longer collection of travel writings about Russia, India, Ireland and living homeless in New York City. She's lately completing Afterglow a fantastic memoir about a dog. Her new & selected poems I Must Be Living Twice will be published in 2015.
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Ween played the first show of its three-night stay in Denver on Thursday, December 29, 2011 at the Fillmore. Kid is Qual opened up the show. Eric Gruneisen brings back these photos from the show.
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Early in 1982, Bob Hall submitted a background paper to Mazda's planning department in Japan. One incorrect assumption was that the light-weight sports car would have to use off-the-shelf components-probably a compete floor plan-for any hope of success. The proposal called for four-cylinder power, an existing transmission, simple suspension components, and a live rear axle.
Much to Hall's surprise, the seeds he had planted took root and quickly blossomed beyond expectation. "I was shocked how willing they were to consider new components at the earliest stage of the car's design-things such as fully independent suspension that were on early-early 'wish' lists."
By the end of 1983, Japan regarded the project as an off-line effort not slated for production. Supporters there favored a front-engine/front-drive layout or a mid-engine/rear-drive design, both wrapped in coupe clothing. The US team, goaded by the religious fervor of Bob Hall, stuck by its guns: a rear-drive convertible, or nothing. It was at this instant that Hall won his ikigai appellation.
The wheels of industry were turning. Early in 1984, the US arm of Mazda submitted full-scale sketches, many of which were prepared by Mark Jordan, the son of GM's vice president of design staff, Chuck Jordan. Hall describes the look at that point as "Ferrari-esque." Later that year, three full-size clay models were constructed around the three contending powertrain layouts.
During most of 1985, IAD in England was busy assembling a "proof of concept" mule that used a live rear axle from the first-generation RX-7 and a Mazda 323 four-cylinder engine. Hall did what he could do: "I was always bugging somebody about the progress of the car. It was important and it had to be done."
Late in 1985, after the running IAD prototype had been studied on the road in southern California, a second full-scale clay model was created in the US around a much tighter package. Masao Yagi simplified man of the exterior design details, deftly shifting the car's character away from miniature Ferrari 275GTB and toward the Lotus Elan. At this time, the project's status changed from "off-line" to that of an unapproved production model. Feasibility studies began in earnest.
At the January 1986 meeting of Mazda's board of directors, newly appointed president Kenichi Yamamoto recommended that the lightweight sports car be produced and approval was quickly granted. Shortly thereafter, Toshihiko Hirai, an engineer who previously worked on the current generation 323, was placed in charge of the Miata's development effort. Ex-Opel Chinese-American designer Wu-Huang Chin sculpted final exterior details in a third and final full-sized clay model. The open mouth, lost in the second iteration, was revived and all contours were gently rounded.
Bob hall was informed by his confidants that, "Mr. Hirai is a very hard man. The light-weight sports car may not survive." He was understandably nervous. In retrospect, Hall feels, "Mr. Hirai was the perfect man for the job-the best guy at Mazda to lead that project. He did one hell of a job!"
The journalists who've driven the Miata agree. While the new Mazda can't touch the power-to-weight ratio achieved by Lotus a quarter century ago, it is in every other respect, a major advancement of the sports car cause. The driving position is purposely very similar to the original RX-7's so no one need complain of cockpit cramps. The gear shift lever and throws are short and sweet like the best of the British. The snug top can be lowered or raised from the driver's seat without inducing a hernia.
The best news of all is that Mr. Hirai's development team got the handling right. According to the chosen scribes, the steering is light and quick with or without the extra-cost power steering. And the Miata has impeccable balance at the fringes of adhesion. It's eminently flingable. Which means that bugs in the teeth-caused by ear-to-ear grin on the driver's face-are assured.


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I know this isn't a flooring question, but I'm hoping someone will know enough about tile/grout/wood to help me out! I'm trying to conceal this uneven tile mosaic line, it butts against a wood cabinet so I wanted to use wood trim. There is enough space in the grout line to nail into that, but my question is, will a nail gun go through grout? What other attachment options do I have? My only other option I see for wood trim is to go in on the side and attach to the adjoining cabinet, however the trim I picked is not thick enough for that so I'd have to pick something else. Does anyone have any other suggestions for covering it? |
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glue the trim on adhesive silicon caulk. Hold it in place with tape until the adhesive sets up. Your tile layer should have replaced the short pieces with pieces cut to eliminate the gaps ... |
- Posted by DIYBlueMom (My Page) on Tue, Feb 4, 14 at 11:51
Thanks - the tile layer was a DIY job and it's hard to see from the picture, but the tie was not deep enough to meet the back of the wood, so the trim was also to hide the difference there too. I'm sure none of that just made sense though! I would not have been able to get a good looking grout line either way I guess. |
- Posted by weedyacres (My Page) on Sun, Feb 9, 14 at 17:36
Either use a different profile of trim (i.e., quarter round) and nail to the cabinet, or use construction adhesive (I like Power Grab) to glue it to either the tile or the cabinet. Lazy's suggestion is a good one too. If the trim is lightweight, caulk should hold it in place well enough, and would then be easy to pull out down the road when you DIY again. :-) |
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