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The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints: Truths and misconceptions about the Mormon faith
Moffat County LDS members, officials from other churches debunk misconceptions about Mormon faith
Thursday, September 13, 2012
The scene Tuesday night at the home of Ron and Kim Schnackenberg consisted of people gathered to share food, stories and laughter.
Members of one of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints' three wards in Craig, the Schnackenbergs hosted an open house for members of the community to come and ask questions about their religion.
They acknowledged there is plenty of speculation surrounding their faith, and with presidential candidate Mitt Romney being a member of the LDS church questions have been raised as to the misconceptions and truths regarding the faith better known as Mormonism.
The Schnackenbergs, along with Bishop Forrest Luke, missionaries Elder Smith and Elder Campbell, and other members of the church, fielded questions and explained their beliefs over the course of the evening.
Ron Schnackenberg said he believes the biggest misconception about his faith is that LDS members are not Christian.
"We are a Christian church, we believe Jesus Christ is the savior of the world and that he died for our sins," Schnackenberg said.
Pastor Loren Pankratz, of the non-denominational Bridge Community Church in Centerville, Utah, said he believes it depends on the definition of Christian being used.
"If you mean Christ follower then yeah, but no traditional Christian would say they're Christian under that definition," Pankratz said. "It's more than you follow Jesus."
Pankratz earned a master's of divinity from Princeton Theological Seminary and did his dissertation on differences between the LDS understanding of grace and the understanding taught by other Christian denominations.
He lives in an area where about 85 percent of the residents are members of the LDS church. And although they may differ in their beliefs, Pankratz praised LDS members for their commitment to community and family.
Pankratz said when strong winds wrought destruction in Utah last year, LDS church members were some of the first to respond.
"Mormonism is more of a culture than a simple faith, and they do community really well," Pankratz said. "When the winds came last year, the LDS church responded amazingly. They organized a clean up drive and cancelled church and told everyone to go help."
Living a good life is a major cornerstone of the faith, but Elder Robbie Smith, a missionary working in Colorado and currently based in Craig, said another misconception people have is thinking Mormons believe you must work your way into heaven.
Although important to the religion, works are not the way to gain entrance into heaven, he said.
"No matter how much you work, you're not going to do it alone," Smith said.
Perhaps the biggest misconception about the LDS church involves the practice of polygamy.
"That they're OK with it or practice, it isn't true," Pankratz said. "They distanced themselves from that in 1890. They stepped away from it."
Pankratz said if the church found one of their members practicing, they would probably disavow them, or throw them out. He also said mainstream media, through shows like Big Love and Sister Wives, perpetuate the misconception, and said although groups like the ones portrayed in the TV shows might consider themselves Mormon, they are not LDS.
Overall, Ron Schnackenberg said the church believes in constant progression and that Jesus set the perfect example for which members should strive. He also said God is the ultimate judge, and will base his judgment on the way one tried to live.
The 13 Articles of Faith, passed down from the prophet Joseph Smith, founder of the religion, all relate to living a life pleasing to God.
Article 13 states that LDS members believe in being honest, true, chaste, benevolent, virtuous and in doing good to all men. It also says church members are interested in anything virtuous, lovely, or of good report or praiseworthy.
The head of the church is president and prophet Thomas Monson. Along with two counselors, the three apostles make up the First Presidency.
Monson is considered by church members to be the current authorized prophet of God.
Underneath the First Presidency are 12 apostles, then quorums of 70 throughout the world. At a more local level are stakes, which house wards and branches.
Wards and branches are decided by geographic distribution of church members. There are three wards in Craig, each led by a Bishop. All three are part of the Meeker stake.
Bishop Luke said he has about 400 members in his ward.
Other unique parts of the faith include the way it functions solely on volunteers — not a single position is paid and all clergy members are lay— and that LDS members believe in both the Bible and the Book of Mormon as the word of God.
Ron Schnackenberg, a convert to the religion later in life, said the openness and quality of life promoted by the religion is what drew him to it.
"The thing that impressed me was that they taught the principles, then told you to pray about it," Schnackenberg said. "There was no coercion."
Pastor Len Browning, of the Journey at First Baptist in Craig, said he believed the average Mormon to be really tolerant and accepting of Christianity in many forms, and said he thinks "Mormonism has been good and wholesome and healthy and very good for creating a wholesome family."
However, Browning doesn't view Mormonism as another denomination of Christianity.
"I've asked members of the LDS church, 'Why don't you come over to my church Sunday morning then?'" Browning said. "There are obviously some core differences."
Despite those differences, LDS members are taught to respect other religions, with one of the 13 articles allowing for all men to worship how, where and what they want to.
"We don't believe in forcing people, rather offering an opportunity," Schnackenberg said.
"Someone won't go to hell if they don't believe it."
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Bot 2 years, 4 months ago
If there had been no Nicene Creed or Emperor Constantine, Catholic and Protestant theology would be quite similar to Mitt Romney's In fact, there would likely be no need for the Church of Jesus Christ (LDS) to restore Jesus Christ's church. Mormons' theology is based on New Testament Christianity, not Fourth Century Creeds. For example, the Church of Jesus Christ (LDS) views on Baptism, Lay Ministry, the Trinity, Theosis, Grace vs. Works, the Divinity of Jesus Christ are closer to Early Christianity than any other denomination. And Mormon teenagers have been judged to "top the charts" in Christian Characteristics by a UNC-Chapel Hill study. Read about it here:
According to a 2012 Pew Forum poll of members of the Church of Jesus Christ (LDS) 98 percent said they believe in the Resurrection of Jesus Christ, and 97 percent say their church is a Christian religion. They volunteer 7 times as many hours as does the general population, according to a 2012 University of Pennsylvania study. Mormons have a better understanding of Christianity than any other denomination, according to a 2010 Pew Forum poll:
11 of the signers of the Declaration of Independence (including several presidents) were non-Trinitarian Christians, as is Mitt Romney, who is as faithful as the most devout Founder.
taxslave 2 years, 4 months ago
i ask any Mormom, is it true you believe Jesus and Luci are brothers? ...spiritual bros?
ConnorCarpenter 2 years, 4 months ago
@ taxslave We believe Jesus is the perfect Son of God. We believe we are all sons and daughters of God as well. Thus, we believe that Jesus is our brother.
We also believe all intelligent beings created by God, such as angels, are sons and daughters of God. The Bible says Satan was an angel. Thus, he too was a son of God. Following this logic, Jesus and Satan could be considered brothers.
Do they have any of the same characteristics? No, they are as polar opposites as could exist. Jesus died for us in love to save us. Satan hates us and wants to destroy us.
RachelFealty 2 years, 4 months ago
Mormonism doesn't seem to disclose the truth about itself until really pressed.
Mormons can claim they are Christian all they want, but their meaning of "grace" is FAR different from other faiths. Unless you pay a 10% income tax to the church you can't enter the temple or enter the highest level of Heaven. That is NOT Christian.
Mormons do indeed still believe in polygamy. They may not practice it right now, but it is still doctrinal for them and is still practiced, according to them, in the afterlife.
What goes on in Mormon temples is cult-like. I know. I did it. Secret hand-shakes, hands held high overhead while chanting as a group. That is NOT Christian.
The notion that people "won't go to Hell if they don't believe it" is misleading. Only temple-tax paying Mormons get into the "highest level" of Heaven. Period.
Joseph Smith was a con man. Brigham Young was a racist. Those men were not prophets.
RachelFealty 2 years, 4 months ago
Oh, and as for Mormons "volunteering seven times the number of hours as the general population"? Far and away most of those volunteer hours are spent administering things in their organization. They count as "volunteering" attending meetings on how to bring more people into Mormonism. They also count as "volunteering" counting the money that is collected each week and taking it to the bank.
The same study that was quoted above found that when all those internal tasks were backed out, Mormons volunteer no more than other Americans.
tspenc 2 years, 4 months ago
People curious about Mormonism should learn about it from Mormons, not atheists, evangelicals, or the media. As for those who don't believe Mormons are Christians.....all they need to do is read a little of the Book of Mormon to KNOW that Mormons are Christian. That book is all about salvation through faith in Christ.
The doctrine of "Trinity" was propigated by the Catholic Church, at the Council of Nicea in 325 A.D., almost 300 years after the death of Christ! It's easy to argue whether or not the Early Christian Church, in the early centuries after Christ, believed or taught "Trinity" doctrine. The Apostle Paul always spoke of Christ as the Son of God... not as the same person as God the Father. The word "trinity" appears no where in the Bible.
Also, the Bible supports all the controversial doctrines that Mormons are berated for. Among them: 1. baptism for the dead(1st Corinthians 15:29), 2. The three kingdoms of Heaven (1st Corinthians 15:35, 40-42, 2nd Corinthians 12:2) 3. Man may become like God. The Bible is full of scriptures infering that "man may become like God, "Ye are Gods (Psalms 82:6)" Ye are the children of God," "Ye are the sons (and daughters) of God," The Apostle Paul said, "We are the offspring of God." See…(Psalms 82:6, Galations 4:4-7, 2 Peter 1:4, John 1:12, John 10:33-34, Romans 8:14,16,17, among the many). Do not sons and daughters grow up to become as their parents?
The doctrine that "man may become like God," is not unique to the Mormon Church. Many Early Church Fathers in the first centuries after Christ also believed that man could become like God. The doctrine was called "Theosis."..look it up on the internet.
The following quotations are from early Church Fathers, theologians, and apologists from the first centuries after Christ, before the Council of Nicea in 325 A.D.
· "We were not made gods at our beginning, but first we were made men, then, in the end, gods."
· "Our Lord Jesus Christ, the Word of God, of his boundless love, became what we are that he might make us what he himself is."
· But of what gods [does he speak]? [Of those] to whom He says, 'I have said, Ye are gods, and all sons of the Most High.' To those, no doubt, who have received the grace of the 'adoption, by which we cry, Abba Father.'"
Clement of Alexandria
· "Yea, I say, the Word of God became a man so that you might learn from a man how to become a god."
Justin Martyr · "[By Psalm 82] it is demonstrated that all men are deemed worthy of becoming "gods," and even of having power to become sons of the Highest." Athanasius · "The Word was made flesh in order that we might be enabled to be made gods.... just as the Lord, putting on the body, became a man, so also we men are both deified through His flesh, and henceforth inherit everlasting life...[we are] sons and gods by reason of the word in us." For more information go to www.truthfind.net
RachelFealty 2 years, 4 months ago
This comment (above) is interesting: "People curious about Mormonism should learn about it from Mormons, not atheists, evangelicals, or the media."
I think Scientologists would say the same thing, as would any group wanting only their side of the story told.
I think people wanting to learn about Mormonism should definitely learn about it from Mormons. But they should also look to any possible source they can find for fair minded information.
I wouldn't rely on only Ford brochures for information on Fords. I would look to Consumer Reports too.
Mahanna 2 years, 4 months ago
I find this article very soft on Mormonisim, yes they are fantastic people, great Americans and neighbors. I can truly say that I love the Mormon people since I was a member of the church for nearly fifty years of my life. Most of my family, friends and life still involves Mormons and always will. I will go along with what the Church says about being Christians, they do worship Christ. Ok - here is the difference, the Christ that the Mormons worship is not the Biblical Christ, he is the Christ that was contrived in the mind of Joseph Smith. He is an exalted man that was a created being just like you and I. The Mormon Christ is not God made flesh, he is a man that did all those things nessasary to recieve his Godhood. I am not an anti mormon out to get the mormons. My life was completely messed up when I found out the truth's that I had been taught for my whole life were a lie, a fabrication. I loved being a Mormon and would have given anything to have what I had always known be true. I have lost family, friends and job opportunities because of my being an apostate. But, I wouldn't trade my new found belief in the Biblical Christ for anything. He is my King and Savior, I now have the peace and security of knowing that I will be with Christ in the Eternities because of his grace and love. I never had that assurance as a Mormon, no Mormon can say that they know they will be with God. The blinderes have been lifted. I am a member of the Church that Pastor Loren has planted here in Utah, we need more Christians to come to Utah. We are a very religous State but we don't know the Christ of the Bible.
TheBaronGray 2 years, 4 months ago
I get really confused and somewhat irritated by people who tell me that I am not a Christian because I do not subscribe to their beliefs about Christianity. The fact that I do not agree with them is obviously why I am not a member of their church. I personally support a football team on the basis of where I was born. My sons were born in a city 14 miles from my home town and support the team from the city they were born in. We both think that our team is the best. This does not change the fact that football is a game of which we are both fans. It seems to me that those who insist I am not a Christian are of the same mindset as those who argue their football team is the only real football team and the best based on nothing but their own interpretation of the facts. Both comments are inherently ridiculous.
Arguing that Christians have always believed in saving by grace only without good works is in error. Check the history of Christianity and you will find that it was Martin Luther who first insisted that this is the correct principle. Therefore, all those before Luther who disagreed with him - all Catholics of any variation included are not Christian. Almost all of the church Fathers of the second century disagree with the concept. As Jesus never said that it was by grace alone and showed and taught that good works were necessary, then surely we must be arguing for Him not being Christian.
Mahanna 2 years, 4 months ago
Hey Baron Guy, the problem is that Mormons teach and say that THEY are the only true Church. This goes against your football team theory. Joseph Smith was told to join none of the Christian sect's, he was told that they were all an abomination to God. As a Mormon missionary I taught that there are two churches. One was the Church of the Lamb of God and the other was the Church of the Devil. As a Mormon I knew which one I belonged to.
ConnorCarpenter 2 years, 4 months ago
@ Mahanna - Sorry for the long post, but please read. :)
Every Christian church preaches it's own interpretation of Christianity and believes it to be the truest of interpretations. If they didn't think their's was the truest, why would they attend that Church? I don't believe it's a negative thing to believe your beliefs are truer than others'.
How did Joseph Smith feel about other Christian churches? He once said "I am bold to declare before Heaven that I am just as ready to die in defending the rights of a Presbyterian, a Baptist, or a good man of any other denomination"
On another occasion he declared: "If I esteem mankind to be in error shall I bear them down? No. I will lift them up, and in their own way too, if I cannot persuade them my way is better; and I will not seek to compel any man to believe as I do, only by the force of reasoning, for truth will cut its own way. Do you believe in Jesus Christ and the Gospel of salvation which he revealed? So do I. Christians should cease wrangling and contending with each other, and cultivate the principles of union and friendship in their midst."
On the same note, Brigham Young once said, "Have [the Saints] enjoyed the light of the Spirit of revelation? Yes; and so, more or less, has every being that has been born upon this earth. I never passed John Wesley's church in London without stopping to look at it. Was he a good man? Yes; I suppose him to have been, by all accounts, as good as ever walked on this earth, according to his knowledge. Has he obtained a rest? Yes, and greater than ever entered his mind to expect; and so have thousands of others of the various religious denominations. "
Regarding the Church of the Devil, Bruce McConkie has this to say, "The titles church of the devil and great and abominable church are used to identify all churches or organizations of whatever name or nature ... which are designed to take men on a course that leads away from God and his laws and thus from salvation in the kingdom of God."
As an active Mormon, I love and treasure my Christian brothers who preach love, faith, and repentance, and bring people worldwide closer to Christ. Taken as a whole, I believe they have been able to accomplish more for the good of Man than my own Church has. They preach 99% of the truth, and I believe deserve 99% of the praise I give my own Church.
As in all faiths, Mormons do not all have the same beliefs. The LDS Church's doctrines are not black and white. There is a large range of possible interpretations to every scripture. And I believe we should pick the most tolerant, accepting, and inclusive interpretations. It's there if you look for it.
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Yep, I remember River Country. We went there once in the 70's but we really didn't care for it that much but it was cool walking around.
I remember going to RC on my very first trip to wdw in 1993. I went on one of the big slides and found it so scary (I was 8 years old!).. and then when i got into the splash pool at the end there were a chain of plastic logs to separate the slides from the main pool. The idea was to swim underneath the logs to exit.. but I didn't want to put my head in the green water! so i was trying to climb over them .... and the CM lifeguard was calling over to me 'please swim under the logs! please swim under the logs!' - eventually my dad swam back to get me and held my hand while we swam under the logs hehe.
that's really my only memory of RC - but it's a family wdw story that always comes up when we talk about past trips!!
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Yep, I remember River Country. We went there once in the 70's but we really didn't care for it that much but it was cool walking around.
River Country officially closed due to a new Florida state ruling that a public swimming area could not use lake-source water, which of course River Country did. It was not due to failing attendance, although that may have been a factor down the road.
Now you know the truth.
I loved going to River Country. When we went in '94 we stayed at the Contemporary and went over quite a bit (and Discovery Island too). My favorite part was the boom swing - does anyone else remember the in-room shows that used to talk about River Country? The person narrating it had the funniest way of pronouncing it - the "BOOM swing." I still remember it to this day.
Then my dad lost his 12-year old watch somewhere in River Country. We contacted Lost and Found but to no avail. It's probably still laying at the bottom of that algae-infested lake.
Great memories... RIP River Country...
Went there onc back in the 90's. Enjoyed the visit, and the atmosphere of the park. I definitely wouldnt mind goin back again... too bad we cant....
*DISNEYLAND PASSHOLDER since 1999, attending regularly since 1987*
'94 - July, off-site
'96 - August, Orange Lake Country Club (off-site)
'98 - May, For Odyssey of the Mind World Finals: All-Star Sports
'98 - July/August, Orange Lake Country Club (off-site)
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'05 - August, Orange Lake Country Club (off-site)
*An Orange Lake Country Owner (a RCI timeshare resort)
It was a great place and will def. be missed. I do wish Disney would do something with the land/space and just not let it sit there....
*DISNEYLAND PASSHOLDER since 1999, attending regularly since 1987*
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I also remember the great times my familly and i enjoyed each other and RC. Some minutes ago, I wondered how the area looks today so i went hunting for an appropriate areal shot. Here goes .... looking at the image, it hits you how deserted and un.maintained it is. Especially the pools and the beach haven't been subject to a touch up for a loong time. Most definately, the rumors of a revival of RC are far fetched. Still, i think its funny that the parking lot i very populated. Judging other close up pictures i have seen on the forums, my guess is that some of the buildings are still used regularly... I wonder what they might be used for ?!
Well, see ya - Greetings from Sunny Denmark
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I miss the Lake part of River Country...seeing those pictures really brings back some memories. It's kind of sad seeing the pool empty with chairs in it.
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shinning at the end of everyday!
I was so sad when that closed, i loved it. I remember going just before it closed and i was relly young and couldnt swim so i had to wear one of those green life jacket things! My biggest memory of there was seeing goofy slide down the waterfall!
Some one was lucky enough to get to go back there recently and take pictures of everything. It's all just sitting there. There's even an innertube floating in the lagoon. It's kinda creepy too. I want to go, but I would be so freaked out.
Oi with the poodles, already!
"This is how it starts. One muppet, Sesame Street in the morning, variety shows late at night. Next thing you know, you're selling your possesions on Main Street to pay for your next Muppet binge"
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I got some weird things I heard during my Castmember days at Disney. River Country was closed in 2001, they actually installed a new filtration system in spring of 2002. It failed to produce the results that the company who sold them the unit. Also some wierd, I had a friend who worked in security and their was a rumor that couple of people were living on Discovery Island. Security found supplies, tents and fire pit that was recently lite. Kinda Cool huh that was in the Winter of 2003.
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I attended an event back in May that was held at River Country. It was actually in the area around where the snack bar/restrooms were. They had a chainlink fence around the park with blackout material through the fence. We couldn't see anything.
It's really a shame that they don't do something with this area. The pool at Ft. Wilderness is the worst resort pool at WDW. There must be some way they could use what's left of River Country to make a decent pool for Ft. Wilderness.
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For almost everyone the answer would be standard Mandarin as it's nearly universally (at least) understood in China including Cantonese speaking areas.
That's what my old boss said (339 comments)
That's what my old boss said!
I'll never take a programming job again...
Re:Who cares? (135 comments)
If the comments you see on Facebook are just a little less retarded than what you see on Youtube, you must have a lot of mentally challenged friends.
Sure go ahead (1 comments)
It's going to be fun watching companies waste their efforts on this and then seeing them all fail miserably trying to achieve something utterly hopeless (well, until everyone is required by law to use iLockedDown devices).
Re:Iran and Syria Cannot Stop Tor (242 comments)
Why don't they just ask China for help? http://www.technologyreview.com/view/427413/how-china-blocks-the-tor-anonymity-network/
Re:Hard to say (595 comments)
If it would break, assuming bitcoin is still in use at that time, would you rather bet on bitcoin or any given paper currency to be the one that goes first?
Re:Goodbye USPS (112 comments)
Don't worry about the fearmongering reply. If there are any facts or logic in your post, it's completely undetectable.
How on earth could having a weapon at home protect you from a shooting in your neighborhood? Unless It happends when you are in your home and somone is specifically out to kill you (which is highly unlikely unless you are gang member yourself) touting a gun would only make the situation much more dangerous for yourself and your family.
Useful in China (101 comments)
This would be great for me in China. That is, until google DNS gets blocked completely. Even using Google DNS in mainland China gives very odd random-seeming replies for requests to certain sites like facebook. It really seems like even request to foreign DNS servers get spoofed (though not consistently, about 1 in 20 reuqests seemed to acually give a facebook server).
Re:No way to know... (356 comments)
Also, writing such a 'useless' system might actually be what your professors are looking for, since it's what you are likely going to work on much of your time as a corporate code monkey. 'Useless' here meaning: in your perception, not to the corporate bottom line.
Sounds highly unlikely, that would imply the professors are actually aware of the outside world.
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The BIG convenience of owning a gun and ammunition is that I can take my amphetami^D^D^D prescription meds, drink a shot of jack and then impulsively decide to unload said gun on anyone that is within range, immediately, with immediate effect and a very low risk of danger to self.
The BIG convenience of owning a gun and ammunition is that I can take my gun and ammunition and defend my home from you, immediately, with immediate effect, without the high risk of waiting 20 minutes for the police to arrive.
And for dropping someone jacked up on drugs, 7 rounds might not be enough to get the job done definitively.
The thing is that person probably wouldn't have a gun too in the first place, if it weren't for guns being so easily accessible. Anyway unless someone is comming specifically to kill you, what good is it to start a firefight in your own home? How likely is it that you or your family members ends up being the ones that get shot instead of handing over material possesions?
Re:Hmm (457 comments)
Maybe the guy in they fired in TFS is actually the guy who takes care of their database server.
Be careful of the back port (136 comments)
I've heard the infection spreads more easily if you stick it in the port on the backside. I know for most people, its a PITA to do that. you might have to get down on your knees an so on, though there are those who prefer it and for them it's especially important to use adequate protection.
Re:Just releasing the source may not fix it (161 comments)
Pro Tip - if you have to resort to draconian measure to collect taxes you're probably taxing people too much.
I think people will always have more or less ambivalent views when it comes to taxes, it's never fun to pay up. Though after all, Norway is a democracy and most people actually voted for the socialist/environmentalist coalition hence they are in government. So I guess a majority is in favour of high taxes. Maybe for a lot of americans, it's hard to see connection between taxes and social welfare as so much of it gets spent on the military. But in the nordic countries, lowered taxes will very likely impact social benefits (and absolutely not just for the unemployed) and going to piss people of for sure unless you manage to do that in a very sublte and deceptive way.
Re:Discount? (228 comments)
Sigh, wrong parent...
Re:Discount? (228 comments)
Actually, the main part of this deal is that Microsoft changes it to an american flag... of, well, death.
China's? (385 comments)
So if this was a handful of doctors performing an illegal practice in another large country, lets say the US. Would the headline read something like "America's controversial brain surgery..."?
Re:Security council (192 comments)
I can't wait to see what things we are about to find out about Ecuador after he's out of there!
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Wohooo I am a ghost from the future who come flying in here at night to give you a peek at how the world could be if your idea gets realized, have a look at these future wikipedia articles, whohooooowooowow.
Re:Komatsu? (184 comments)
Are you sure Coca Cola isn't just making the IDS toothless and obese? The palestinians should thank them!
Re:vpn (58 comments)
Most of my local chinese language teachers do it to access facebook, my local classmates in the lab do it (to access japanese porn?). Nobody is afraid. I don't think the goverment really cares unless a significant portion of the population does it to discuss political issues. Actually a lot of educated people in china are quite aware of all the issues being reported in western media, it seems the government is mainly concerned about the masses. Hence for instance the chinese language BBC news website is blocked but the english version is completely available.


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Researchers blame antibiotics in chicken for superbugs transmitted to women2012-07-11, WCPO-TV (The Cincinnati ABC affiliate)Posted: 2012-07-24 16:29:35http://www.wcpo.com/dpp/news/health/healthy_living/researchers-blame-anitbiot...
Medical researchers tell ABC News that more than 8 million women are at risk for hard-to-treat bladder infections, because superbugs from chicken are being transmitted to humans. If the researchers are right, there is compelling new evidence of a direct link between the superbugs and the antibiotic-fed chicken we buy at the grocery store. The Food and Drug Administration says 80 percent of all antibiotics sold in the US are fed to livestock and chickens to protect them from disease in cramped quarters. Researchers say they do not have a definitive link between the E. coli in chicken and infection in women, but they say there is "persuasive" evidence that chicken carries the same bacteria with the highest levels of resistance to medicine as causes the drug resistant infection in women.
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India to give free generic drugs to hundreds of millions2012-07-05, Fox NewsPosted: 2012-07-10 16:00:16http://www.foxnews.com/health/2012/07/05/india-to-give-free-generic-drugs-to-...
India has put in place a $5.4 billion policy to provide free medicine to its people, a decision that could change the lives of hundreds of millions, but a ban on branded drugs stands to cut Big Pharma out of the windfall. From city hospitals to tiny rural clinics, India's public doctors will soon be able to prescribe free generic drugs to all comers, vastly expanding access to medicine in a country where public spending on health was just $4.50 per person last year. Under the plan, doctors will be limited to a generics-only drug list and face punishment for prescribing branded medicines, a major disadvantage for pharmaceutical giants in one of the world's fastest-growing drug markets. The initiative would overhaul a system where healthcare is often a luxury and private clinics account for four times as much spending as state hospitals, despite 40 percent of the people living below the poverty line, or $1.25 a day or less. Within five years, up to half of India's 1.2 billion people are likely to take advantage of the scheme, the government says. "The policy of the government is to promote greater and rational use of generic medicines that are of standard quality," said L.C. Goyal, additional secretary at India's Ministry of Health and Family Welfare and a key proponent of the policy. "They are much, much cheaper than the branded ones."
Plum Organics offers healthy food for kids2012-07-02, San Francisco Chronicle (San Francisco's leading newspaper)Posted: 2012-07-10 15:58:57http://www.sfgate.com/business/article/Plum-Organics-offers-healthy-food-for-...
Some might call Neil Grimmer and his wife Tana Johnson picky eaters. For more than a decade, Grimmer, a triathlete, didn't eat meat or dairy while Johnson followed a macrobiotic diet, made up mostly of whole grains and vegetables. So when the couple became parents about nine years ago, they sought to feed their children healthy foods. Trouble was, they couldn't find snacks that were healthy, yet easy to pack and appealing to their kids. That's how the Nest Collective, now known as Plum Organics, was born. [The] startup makes baby food and toddler and kids' snacks such as pouches of pureed blueberry oats and quinoa for babies and squeezable oatmeal for older children. Plum Organics is also addressing increasing concerns about childhood obesity and parents looking for alternative, easy-to-pack snacks. In what turned out to be a momentous decision, the company moved away from the traditional plastic or glass jar and began offering baby food in the form of the squeezable pouch already popular with older children. The company took off from there. The benefit of the pouch is that it allows the food to be cooked more gently so that the flavors are richer, said Grimmer. The packaging also takes up less space in landfills and is easier to transport.
Italian court reignites MMR vaccine debate after award over child with autism2012-06-17, The Independent (One of the UK's leading newspapers)Posted: 2012-07-03 12:02:09http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/health-news/itali...
The controversial row surrounding alleged links between the measles, mumps and rubella (MMR) vaccine and autism is set to be reignited following a court ruling in Italy. Judges in Rimini, north-east Italy awarded the Bocca family 174,000 Euros (£140,000) after the Italian Health Ministry conceded the MMR vaccine caused autism in their nine-year-old son Valentino. Up to 100 similar cases are now being examined by Italian lawyers and experts suggest the case could lead to other families pursuing cases. The ruling in Italy is likely to re-open a debate which first made the headlines in Britain over a decade ago when the respected medical journal The Lancet published an article in 1998, making a connection between the triple vaccine and autism. Valentino Bocca was 15 months old when he received an MMR jab in 2004. His parents said the change in him, after the jab, from a healthy boy to one who was in serious discomfort, was immediate. The number of autism cases has risen sharply since the 1970s, with one in 64 British children affected.
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Morgellons Study Cited by Faculty of 10002012-06-19, San Francisco Chronicle (San Francisco's leading newspaper)Posted: 2012-06-26 11:08:49http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/g/a/2012/06/19/prweb9616173.DTL
A recent study of Morgellons disease has been cited as a "must read" by the Faculty of 1000 (F1000). The article entitled "Morgellons Disease: A Chemical and Light Microscopic Study", by MJ Middelveen, EH Rasmussen, DG Kahn and RB Stricker, was published in the open-access online Journal of Clinical and Experimental Dermatology Research. In 2011, veterinary microbiologist Marianne J. Middelveen from Calgary, Alberta, Canada and internist Raphael B. Stricker, MD published a study documenting similarities between Morgellons disease and a veterinary illness known as bovine digital dermatitis (BDD) that causes lameness, decreased milk production, weight loss, and skin lesions near the hooves of affected cattle. That study revealed that the unusual fibers seen in the animal disease were similar to those seen in and under the skin of people worldwide who suffer from Morgellons disease. The new study confirms that Morgellons disease is not a delusional illness, as some in the medical community maintain. The latest findings confirm that fibers from both bovine and human samples were similar in formation at the cellular level and had the chemical and physical properties of keratin. Fibers from human patients were found to be biological in origin and are produced by keratinocytes in epithelial and follicular tissues. "This study puts the final nail in the coffin of delusional disease that these patients have been labeled with," stated Dr. Stricker. "It proves that Morgellons disease is a physiologic illness. From here on, scientists will be able to move forward in finding a cause and a cure."
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When Nothing Works2011-12-05, Harvard Business ReviewPosted: 2012-06-19 10:32:11http://blogs.hbr.org/bregman/2011/12/when-nothing-works.html
Sometimes, not trying to fix something is precisely what's needed to fix it. It's a hard strategy to follow because we have penchant for being proactive. If there's a problem, we feel better when we attack it aggressively. But consider the idea that we might spend a lot of time, effort, and money solving problems that can't, in fact, be solved with time, effort, and money. In 2009, Americans spent about $3.6 billion on over-the-counter cold, cough, and throat remedies, according to the New York Times. And yet, the article concluded, there's very little evidence that any of those medicines do anything to cure, or even shorten the duration of, a cold. And some remedies, like taking antibiotics, bring along side effects that risk making some people worse. In other words, the best strategy for coping with the common cold is to do nothing. So how do we know whether to do something or nothing? "When many cures are offered for a disease," wrote Chekhov, "it means the disease is not curable." If past experience or data suggests that multiple solutions are possible but none are reliably successful, nothing may be the best strategy. Also, if you've tried two or three solutions and none of them have worked, perhaps it's time to try nothing.
Note: The article at the New York Times link in the summary above is well worth reading to understand the effectiveness, or lack thereof, of many treatments for the common cold.
Are doctors improperly storing vaccines?2012-06-06, ABC NewsPosted: 2012-06-12 09:49:47http://abcnews.go.com/Health/government-report-finds-doctors-storing-vaccines...
An investigation by the Department of Health and Human Services' Office of the Inspector General found that many providers of immunizations meant for low-income children don't store the vaccines at proper temperatures, potentially rendering them ineffective and placing children at risk for contracting serious diseases. Inspectors visited the offices of 45 providers in five states who offered free immunizations as part of the government's Vaccines for Children Program. Nationwide, about 44,000 offices and clinics participate in the program. The investigation found that 76 percent of the providers stored the vaccines at temperatures that were either too hot or too cold. They also found that 13 providers stored expired vaccines along with nonexpired vaccines. "As a result, the 20,252 VFC vaccine doses that we observed during site visits may not provide children with maximum protection against preventable diseases and may be vulnerable to fraud, waste and abuse," according to the report. "These doses were worth approximately $800,000."
Note: The videos available on the ABC webpage above are also very revealing about the dangers of vaccines. For excellent summaries of other revealing media articles raising serious questions about the risks and dangers of vaccines, click here.
Let's (Not) Get Physicals2012-06-03, New York TimesPosted: 2012-06-12 09:31:25http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/03/sunday-review/lets-not-get-physicals.html
For decades, scientific research has shown that annual physical exams — and many of the screening tests that routinely accompany them — are in many ways pointless or [even] dangerous, because they can lead to unneeded procedures. The last few years have produced a steady stream of new evidence against the utility of popular tests. So why do Americans, nearly alone on the planet, remain so devoted to the ritual physical exam and to all of these tests, and why do so many doctors continue to provide them? Indeed, the last decade has seen a boom in what hospitals and health care companies call "executive physicals" — batteries of screening exams for apparently healthy people, purporting to ferret out hidden disease. In 1979, a Canadian government task force officially recommended giving up the standard head-to-toe annual physical based on studies showing it to be "nonspecific," "inefficient" and "potentially harmful," replacing it instead with a small number of periodic screening tests, which depend in part on a patient's risk factors for illness. There is, of course, economic impetus for American medicine's "more is better" mode — at least when patients have insurance. In the United States, most doctors and hospitals profit more by doing more, and prices are particularly high for tests and scans. Also, we are one of the few countries where drug makers and hospitals advertise products and treatments directly to patients, creating demand from consumers who don't actually pay their full costs.
Note: For key reports from reliable sources on important health issues, click here.
Scientists turn skin cells into beating heart muscle2012-05-22, MSNBC/ReutersPosted: 2012-05-28 13:59:43http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/47527660/ns/health-heart_health
Scientists have for the first time succeeded in taking skin cells from patients with heart failure and transforming them into healthy, beating heart tissue that could one day be used to treat the condition. The researchers, based in Haifa, Israel, said there were still many years of testing and refining ahead. But the results meant they might eventually be able to reprogram patients' cells to repair their own damaged hearts. "We have shown that it's possible to take skin cells from an elderly patient with advanced heart failure and end up with his own beating cells in a laboratory dish that are healthy and young - the equivalent to the stage of his heart cells when he was just born," said Lior Gepstein from the Technion-Israel Institute of Technology, who led the work. The researchers, whose study was published in the European Heart Journal on Wednesday, said clinical trials of the technique could begin within 10 years. Gepstein's team took skin cells from two men with heart failure - aged 51 and 61 - and transformed them by adding three genes and then a small molecule called valproic acid to the cell nucleus. They found that the resulting hiPSCs [Human induced pluripotent stem cells] were able to differentiate to become heart muscle cells, or cardiomyocytes, just as effectively as hiPSCs that had been developed from healthy, young volunteers who acted as controls for the study. The team was then able to make the cardiomyocytes develop into heart muscle tissue, which they grew in a laboratory dish together with existing cardiac tissue.
Note: For key reports from major media sources on important health issues, click here.
A Judge's Plea for Pot2012-05-17, New York TimesPosted: 2012-05-22 11:47:59http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/17/opinion/a-judges-plea-for-medical-marijuana...
Three and a half years ago, on my 62nd birthday, doctors discovered a mass on my pancreas. It turned out to be Stage 3 pancreatic cancer. I was told I would be dead in four to six months. Today I am in that rare coterie of people who have survived this long with the disease. But I did not foresee that after having dedicated myself for 40 years to a life of the law, including more than two decades as a New York State judge, my quest for ameliorative and palliative care would lead me to marijuana. My survival has demanded an enormous price, including months of chemotherapy, radiation hell and brutal surgery. Inhaled marijuana is the only medicine that gives me some relief from nausea, stimulates my appetite, and makes it easier to fall asleep. The oral synthetic substitute, Marinol, prescribed by my doctors, was useless. Rather than watch the agony of my suffering, friends have chosen, at some personal risk, to provide the substance. I find a few puffs of marijuana before dinner gives me ammunition in the battle to eat. A few more puffs at bedtime permits desperately needed sleep. This is not a law-and-order issue; it is a medical and a human rights issue. Being treated at Memorial Sloan Kettering Cancer Center, I am receiving the absolute gold standard of medical care. But doctors cannot be expected to do what the law prohibits, even when they know it is in the best interests of their patients. When palliative care is understood as a fundamental human and medical right, marijuana for medical use should be beyond controversy.
Note: The author is Gustin L. Reichbach, who is a justice of the New York State Supreme Court in Brooklyn. For lots more from reliable sources on the benefits of many mind-altering drugs, click here.
Puberty Before Age 10: A New 'Normal'?2012-04-01, New York TimesPosted: 2012-04-24 12:06:12http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/01/magazine/puberty-before-age-10-a-new-normal...
In the late 1980s, Marcia Herman-Giddens, then a physician's associate in the pediatric department of the Duke University Medical Center, started noticing that an awful lot of 8- and 9-year-olds in her clinic had sprouted pubic hair and breasts. The medical wisdom, at that time, based on a landmark 1960 study of institutionalized British children, was that puberty began, on average, for girls at age 11. But that was not what Herman-Giddens was seeing. So she started collecting data, eventually leading a study with the American Academy of Pediatrics that sampled 17,000 girls, finding that among white girls, the average age of breast budding was 9.96. Among black girls, it was 8.87. When Herman-Giddens published these numbers, in 1997 in Pediatrics, she set off a social and endocrinological firestorm. "I had no idea it would be so huge," Herman-Giddens told me recently. "The Lolita syndrome" — the prurient fascination with the sexuality of young girls — "created a lot of emotional interest. As a feminist, I wish it didn't." Along with medical professionals, mothers, worried about their daughters, flocked to Herman-Giddens's slide shows, gasping as she flashed images of possible culprits: obesity, processed foods, plastics. One concern, among parents and researchers, is the effect of simultaneous exposures to many estrogen-mimics, including the compound BPA, which is ubiquitous. Ninety-three percent of Americans have traces of BPA in their bodies.
Note: For lots more on from reliable sources on important health issues, click here.
VA offers spectrum of services to vets with PTSD2012-04-07, San Francisco Chronicle (San Francisco's leading newspaper)Posted: 2012-04-17 09:55:51http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2012/04/06/INA01NTT6G.DTL
About 10 to 15 percent of the more than 1.4 million Americans who have served in Iraq and Afghanistan are [dealing] with the symptoms of post-traumatic stress disorder. PTSD results when a person experiences a traumatic event that involves exposure to personal threat or the death or extreme suffering of others; an event that creates strong feelings of fear, helplessness or horror. It's common for one to be greatly troubled by uncontrollable painful memories that cause emotional distress, ... sleep loss, irritability and inability to have positive emotions. The good news is that effective treatments for the disorder are available. To date, the [VA] has seen more than 223,600 veterans of the Iraq and Afghanistan wars with PTSD. What stops vets from going for help? Going for treatment can feel like an admission of failure or personal weakness. And most people don't know much about what to expect of mental health treatment. In fact, treatment for stress disorder is a straightforward process. You learn about the effects of trauma ... and how recovery takes place. You form friendships with other vets. And you master some practical skills for dealing with painful memories, anger or physical tension. The earlier we treat combat veterans with readjustment problems, the better chance we have of stopping PTSD. Going for help is an act of courage that can cut short distress and restore a sense of personal power, hope and connection with others. If you are a veteran reading this ... seize the day and go for help. If you're a family member of a veteran with a problem, talk to him or her about treatment and offer to help with the process, or to go for counseling yourself to ... learn how you can help your loved one.
Note: For practical information on how to get help with PTSD, click here.
Butterball Workers Arrested on Animal Cruelty Charges2012-02-16, ABC NewsPosted: 2012-04-11 18:47:13http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/butterball-workers-arrested-animal-cruelty-char...
Six workers at a Butterball turkey farm in North Carolina face criminal charges after an undercover video revealed alleged animal abuse, and a state employee who tipped off Butterball before a police raid on the farm has pled guilty to obstruction of justice. Butterball ... accounts for 20 percent of total turkey production in the U.S.. Mercy for Animals [is] the animal rights group that shot the undercover video. "Unfortunately, every time we send an investigator they emerge with shocking evidence of animal abuse," said MFA executive director Nathan Runkle. "Before ending up in restaurants and grocery stores, turkeys killed for Butterball are routinely crowded into filthy warehouses, neglected to die from infected, bloody wounds, and thrown, kicked, and beaten by factory farm workers." In addition, Dr. Sarah Mason, a veterinarian at the North Carolina Department of Agriculture, was suspended from her job ... and was sentenced to 45 days in the Hoke County jail after pleading guilty to obstructing justice and obstructing a public officer. Mason admitted calling a friend who worked at Butterball prior to the raid. Though she initially denied talking to the Butterball employee, Dr. Mason later admitted telling him about the existence of the Mercy for Animals video showing alleged abuse. In the video, workers can be seen kicking and stomping on turkeys, as well as dragging them by their wings and necks. The video also shows injured birds with open wounds and exposed flesh. Butterball ... has said it was "shocked" by the undercover video, is taking the animal cruelty investigation seriously.
Note: For two excellent and fun short videos showing both the problem and solutions for cruel factory farming, click here and here. For lots more little-known, excellent information to promote your health, click here.
Activists Call for End to 'Cruel' Battery Cages for Chickens2011-11-19, ABC NewsPosted: 2012-04-11 18:45:39http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/activists-call-end-cruel-battery-cages-chickens...
In the wake of an ABC News investigation into alleged unsanitary and inhumane practices at one of the nation's largest egg farms, animal rights activists are calling for an end to the egg industry's widespread use of so-called "battery cages," in which birds live six to a cage in long stacks of wire cages. "The battery cage system is inherently cruel," said Nathan Runkle of Mercy for Animals, who estimated that 95 percent of the hens used in egg production are kept in battery cages. He urged the industry to adopt more humane methods of egg production, and urged McDonald's, the nation's largest egg buyer, to stop buying eggs from battery cage farms. Undercover video shot by a Mercy for Animals activist who worked at one of the nation's largest egg producers, Sparboe Farms, shows the battery cages in use. "Scott," the activist who made the tape, said that the five to seven birds were kept in each cage, with their beaks cut at an early cage so they wouldn't peck each other, and that each bird lived its life in an area smaller than a standard sheet of paper. He said the birds "can't fully spread their wings, they can't walk around. There were [dead] birds that were left in the cages that were decomposing for weeks or months at a time," claimed Scott. Until the ABC News investigation and the FDA's warning, McDonald's drew all its eggs for restaurants west of the Mississippi River from Sparboe. Just before the ABC News report aired, McDonald's announced that it would no longer get its eggs from Sparboe Farms. Activists, however, are now asking why McDonald's won't stop buying eggs from any producer that uses battery cages.
Note: To watch a video of this sad scene, click here. To learn how this report resulted in both McDonald's and Target canceling their contracts with Sparboe Farms, click here.
The Problem with Factory Farms2010-04-23, Time MagazinePosted: 2012-04-11 18:43:08http://www.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,1983981,00.html
If you eat meat, the odds are high that you've enjoyed a meal made from an animal raised on a factory farm. The government designation is CAFO, which stands for Concentrated Animal Feeding Operation. Basically, it's any farm that has 1,000 animal units or more. A beef cow is an animal unit. These animals are kept in pens their entire lives. They're never outside. They never breathe fresh air. They never see the sun. According to the USDA, 2% of U.S. livestock facilities raise an estimated 40% of all farm animals. This means that pigs, chickens and cows are concentrated in a small number of very large farms. There are simply too many animals in too small of a place. CAFO cows eat a diet of milled grains, corn and soybeans, when they are supposed to eat grass. The food isn't natural because they very often put growth hormones and antibiotics in it. When you have 2,000 cows per acre instead of two, you have a problem. You can't fit them in a pasture — you fit them in a building. You don't have enough land to absorb their waste. The manure is liquefied. It gets flushed out into an open lagoon [and] sprayed into waterways and creeks. This stuff is untreated, by the way.
A Single Antibody to Treat Multiple Cancers?2012-03-28, Time MagazinePosted: 2012-04-11 18:32:12http://healthland.time.com/2012/03/28/a-single-antibody-to-treat-multiple-can...
A single treatment to cure all cancers? Scientists may be one step closer. In a recent study, scientists reported that they successfully tested an antibody treatment that shrank human breast, ovary, colon, bladder, brain, liver and prostate tumors transplanted into mice. The antibody blocks a protein called CD47, which normally sits on the cell surface and issues a "don't eat me" signal that prevents the body's immune system from attacking it. About a decade ago, scientists at Stanford University School of Medicine, led by professor of pathology Irving Weissman, discovered that using an antibody to block CD47 cured some cases of leukemia and lymphoma in mice by allowing macrophages to seek and destroy the cancerous cells. In the new study, Weissman's Stanford team showed that the CD47-blocking antibodies may also work against a number of other cancers. The researchers found that CD47 existed on nearly every cell, which suggests that the protein may be common to all cancers. Cancer cells expressed about three times more CD47 than healthy cells. "If the tumor was highly aggressive, the antibody also blocked metastasis. It's becoming very clear that, in order for a cancer to survive in the body, it has to find some way to evade the cells of the innate immune system," said Weissman in a statement. The antibody treatment didn't work in all cases. Some mice injected with breast cancer cells from a human patient showed no changes after treatment. Yet in five mice with breast cancer, the antibody treatment cured them, with no signs of recurrence four months after treatment.
Note: With millions around the world dying of cancer every year, why aren't the most promising treatments being fast tracked? Why did it take 10 years form Weissman to reach this stage? Why isn't the very promising treatment of DCA, which is both cheap and incredibly promising, being given many millions to move rapidly forward? To read major media articles describing other potential cures not being adequately funded, click here. To understand why some treatments are suppressed, click here.
Microbes may play crucial role in human health2011-10-09, Washington PostPosted: 2012-04-11 18:29:09http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/microbes-may-play-cruci...
The average person's body contains about 100 trillion cells, but only maybe one in 10 is human. Human cells ... are far outnumbered by those from microbes — primarily bacteria but also viruses, fungi and a panoply of other microorganisms. That thought might make a lot of people lunge for the hand sanitizer, but that impulse may be exactly the wrong one. Researchers are amassing a growing body of evidence indicating that microbial ecosystems play crucial roles in keeping us healthy. Moreover, scientists are becoming more convinced that modern trends — diet, antibiotics, obsession with cleanliness, Caesarean deliveries — are disrupting this delicate balance, contributing to some of the most perplexing ailments, including asthma, allergies, obesity, diabetes, autoimmune diseases, cancer and perhaps even autism. These microbial stowaways may wield far greater powers than previously appreciated. Acquired beginning at birth, this mass of fellow travelers may help steer normal development. Investigators are trying to identify which organisms may truly be beneficial "probiotics" that people could take to help their health. One intriguing finding is that babies born through Caesarean section apparently miss out on acquiring their mothers' microbiota. The rising number of C-section babies ... might help explain trends such as rising incidents of asthma and food allergies caused by misfiring immune systems. Obese people appear to have a distinctive mix of digestive bacteria that make them prone to weight gain. Thin mice get fatter when their microbiota is replaced with the microbes of obese animals.
Note: For more on probiotics from Dr. Mercola, click here. For an informative Newsweek article further exploring this topic, click here.
Gregg Williams' speech adds fuel to bountygate fire2012-04-06, USA TodayPosted: 2012-04-11 18:24:07http://www.usatoday.com/sports/football/nfl/story/2012-04-05/saints-violence-...
Gregg Williams' profanity-filled speech to the New Orleans Saints' defensive players the night before their mid-January playoff game against the San Francisco 49ers included a target list: Alex Smith's chin. Vernon Davis' ankles. Kyle Williams' head. Frank Gore's head. And, according to audio captured ... Williams chillingly suggested that 49ers wide receiver Michael Crabtree "becomes human when we (expletive) take out that outside ACL." [This] provided more evidence against the Saints on a day when coach Sean Payton, assistant head coach Joe Vitt and general manager Mickey Loomis met with NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell to appeal penalties for their roles in a bounty scandal that has rocked the league. The audio also raised anew some questions for the NFL. Has the league lost control of what is supposed to be the controlled violence of America's most popular game? And how might the sport be affected by its professional level's apparent disregard for player safety. While Williams' speech ... could easily be criticized for ill intent, it also illustrated the type of macho mentality that has existed in pro football since its inception. A former linebacker [Coy Wire] played under Williams with the Buffalo Bills when players were also paid cash in a similar bounty scheme. "Gregg Williams was part of a culture of relentlessness," says Wire. "It wasn't just him. It was a group of people who wanted to find a competitive edge." In its findings announced in early March, the league maintained that between 22 and 27 players from the Saints defenses from 2009 to 2011 were involved in the bounty program.
Living Seed company takes root from heirloom seeds2012-03-28, San Francisco ChroniclePosted: 2012-04-11 18:21:58http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2012/03/27/DD9P1NDH6T.DTL&ao...
Two entrepreneurs are hoping to take gardening back to a time when an abundance of plant diversity was the norm. Matthew Hoffman and Astrid Lindo grow, source and sell seeds of rare and heirloom edibles. "What's amazing is 100 years ago, everybody saved their own seed," Lindo said. By 1983, the 408 varieties of peas cultivated on American farms some 80 years earlier had dwindled to 25. Sweet corn saw a drop from 307 to 12 varieties. Hoffman undertook intensive training in New Mexico at the first-ever seed school taught by Bill McDorman, one of the veterans of the contemporary North American seed-saving movement. His enthusiasm was infectious; within a few months, Lindo decided to ... immerse herself in the fledgling business. The couple talked with experienced seed growers and farmers, researched catalogs, and scanned gardening forums and blogs online. And then they dug in and began growing their own seed. McDorman, director of Native Seeds/Search, a Tucson organization focused on conserving the genetic diversity of crops ... is effusive in his praise of the couple. "These young kids are way smarter than we were," he remarked. "Matthew and Astrid are indicative of what's coming, a whole new wave." The couple have ... a lively Twitter feed, a blog and a Facebook page as well as a YouTube channel with instructional videos on seed-saving techniques. The company also donates seeds to school garden programs, urban garden programs and correctional facilities.
Note: Learn more at www.livingseedcompany.com. Read the blog at this link and check them out on twitter:@LivingSeedCo; Facebook: www.facebook.com/LivingSeedCompany; and YouTube: bit.ly/wR0P3B
Can three minutes of exercise a week help make you fit?2012-02-27, BBC NewsPosted: 2012-04-11 18:19:02http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-17177251
A few relatively short bursts of intense exercise, amounting to only a few minutes a week, can deliver many of the health and fitness benefits of hours of conventional exercise, according to new research. This apparently outrageous claim is supported by many years of research done in a number of different countries. [Welcome to] the world of High Intensity Training (HIT). By doing just three minutes of HIT a week for four weeks, [you can] expect to see significant changes in a number of important health indices. But how much benefit you get ... may well depend on your genes. The fact is that people respond to exercise in very different ways. In one international study 1,000 people were asked to exercise four hours a week for 20 weeks. The results were striking. Although 15% of people made huge strides ... 20% showed no real improvement at all. The exercise they were doing was not making them any aerobically fitter. [HIT is] actually very simple. You get on an exercise bike, warm up by doing gentle cycling for a couple of minutes, then go flat out for 20 seconds. A couple of minutes to catch your breath, then another 20 seconds at full throttle. Another couple of minutes gentle cycling, then a final 20 seconds going hell for leather. And that's it. Active exercise ... seems to be needed to break down the body's stores of glucose, deposited in your muscles as a substance called glycogen. Smash up these glycogen stores and you create room for more glucose to be sucked out of the blood and stored. Like any new exercise regime if you have a pre-existing medical condition you should consult your doctor before trying it.
Note: For lots more on this, see the excellent article on mercola.com at this link. And for two amazing one-minute videos of a highly inspiring gymnast who is 86-years-old doing her routines, click here.
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Hello, I own a tourist site for the city of Providence, Rhode Island (http://www.scoutprovidence.com) and have been trying to making updates as easy as possible. To do this, I use SSI and just began using JavaScript commands.
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In the page here: http://www.scoutprovidence.com/secti...downtown.shtml you'll see that I have a listing of hotels in the Downtown Providence area. Of course, this listing is useless without directions, so I'm trying to post a link to directions that will pop up a window from a file in a separate folder. Instead of making one function for each directions popup, I'm trying to make it much easier for myself by making just one function that will link the directions from one hotel to its corresponding directions.
By doing that, in the script in the head command has this one function:
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window.open('/sections/site/dirindex/accomodations/' + filename + '.html', 'Directions to ' + hotelname, config='height=300,width=200,toolbar=0,menubar=0,location=0,directories=0,status=0');
And then, the link in that URL I have above (next to Biltmore Hotel) has the following A tag:

As you can see, the biltmore variable was intended to make that function load "/sections/dirindex/accomodations/biltmore.html . "The Biltmore Hotel" variable should make the title of this window, "Directions to The Biltmore Hotel".
Having a feeling that this script wasn't going to work, I uploaded directions.shtml, loaded it on my browser, and it found an error: "Object Expected: Line: 178 Character: 1".
I have no clue what could be the problem. Line 178 is where the A tag is, (although the A tag is actually in a shared .html file called by the "include virtual" SSI tag, I don't know if that has anything to do with it.)
Can anyone find the problem? I fear that someone is going to find some stupid thing I missed and make me embarrassed. But don't be afraid to tell it to me, since I'm already frustrated by this JavaScript problem.
EDIT: I just remembered that the hosting service just went down temporarily for server maintenence, so you won't be able to go to the URL I posted.Last edited by RandHuck; 02-20-2003 at 03:41 AM.
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