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Origin hypotheses of the Serbs
Modern Serbs are a South Slavic people intermixed with Paleo-Balkan peoples upon their arrival to the Balkans in the 7th century. Many features of the Serbian cultural and linguistic origins can be traced back to the Migration Period of the Early Middle Ages. It was then, as the Early Slavs and Serb tribes colonized the Balkans and in turn mixed with pre-Slavic peoples and were culturally and linguistic influenced, mostly by the Illyrians, who adopted Serb name as their own.[1] They live today mainly in Serbia, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Montenegro and Croatia. There are opinions that ethnonym Serbs possibly has a different root. Various researchers provided several theories about the origin of the Serb ethnonym and their opinions are based on the data from historical sources that mentioning Serb ethnonym or other Serb-sounding names in other parts of the Old World. However, the connection between modern Serbs in the Balkans and some early historical data related to Serb-sounding names remains largely unproved and controversial.
Early historical records of the Serb name[edit]
Various authors mentioned names of Serbs (Serbian: Srbi / Срби) and Sorbs (Upper Sorbian: Serbja; Lower Sorbian: Serby) in different variants: Surbii, Suurbi, Serbloi, Zeriuani, Sorabi, Surben, Sarbi, Serbii, Serboi, Zirbi, Surbi, Sorben,[2] etc. These authors used these names to refer to Serbs and Sorbs in areas where their historical (or current) presence was/is not disputed (notably in the Balkans and Lusatia), but there are also sources that mention same or similar names in other parts of the World (most notably in the Asiatic Sarmatia in the Caucasus). Attempts of various researchers to connect these names with modern Serbs produced various theories about the origin of the Serb people.
- Early historical mentions of a "Serb" ethnonym in the Caucasus
- Pliny the Younger in his work Plinii Caecilii Secundi Historia naturalis from the first century AD (69-75) mentioned people named Serbi,[3] who lived near the Cimmerians, presumably on the Black Sea and the Sea of Azov.
- In the 2nd century (around 175 AD), the Egyptian scientist Claudius Ptolemy mentioned in his Geography people named Serboi or Sirboi,[3] who presumably lived behind the Caucasus, in the hinterland of the Caspian Sea.
- In the 10th century, Byzantine emperor Constantine VII Porphyrogennetos (912-959) mentioned in his book De Ceremoniis, apart from the Slavic Croats and Serbs, there were two tribes named Krevatades (Krevatas) and Sarban (Sarbani), which some researches identified as Croats and Serbs. These tribes were located in the Caucasus near the river Terek, between Alania and Tsanaria.[4][5][6][7] The Sarban tribe in the Caucasus in the 10th century was also recorded by an Arab geographer.[8]
- Early historical mentions of other Serb-sounding names that some researchers are trying to connect with the Serb people
- In the same book where he mentioned people named Serboi, Claudius Ptolemy also mentioned city named Serbinum in Pannonia.[3]
- Ancient geographer Strabo mentioned that river Xanthos in Lycia was formerly named Sirbis.[9]
- Herodotus mentions lake named Serbonis in Egypt. This lake was also mentioned as Sirbonis by Strabo.[10]
People with name Sirbi near the estuary of the river Volga, on Ptolemaic map from 1552.
People with name Sirbi near the estuary of the river Volga, on Ptolemaic map from 1598.
People with name Serbi (Серби) near the estuary of the river Volga, according to the map from the book of Jovan Rajić, printed in Vienna in 1794.
Other Serb-sounding names[edit]
This is a list of Serb-sounding place names that Živko D. Petković connects with Serbs:[11]
- In Russia: Serbino, Serbi, Serbinovka, Sarbaka[11]
- In Poland: Serbentinije, Serbentini, Serbinov, Sjerbovice, Sarbice, Sarbijevo, Sarbin[11]
- In Lithuania: Serben, Serbigal[11]
- Near the Baltic Sea: Sarbske[11]
- On the Caucasus: Serab, Servičaj[11]
- In Mesopotamia: Sorbatje, Serbis (river)[11]
In Afghanistan and Pakistan there is a tribal group of Pashtuns called Sarbans / Sarbani. Their name is similar to the name of Caucasian tribe named Sarban (Sarbani), which some researchers connected to Serbs.[5]
Some researches are also trying to connect Serb name with other somewhat similar names such are Siberia (region in Russia),[12] Sibiru (island near Sumatra),[12] Seri or Sereri (ancient people in Central Asia),[13] Montes Serrorum (old name for Carpathians), Sarmatia (ancient region in Eastern Europe), Sirmium (city in ancient Pannonia), etc.
Aside from place names in Poland, whose part, together with Lusatia, is seen as area of historical White Serbia, there is no general scientific consensus that any of the mentioned names is related to modern Serbs.
Migration of Serbs to the Balkans[edit]
According to the work named "De administrando imperio", written by the Byzantine emperor Constantine VII Porphyrogennetos (912-959), Balkanic Serbs originating from pagan White Serbs who lived on the other side of present-day Turkey (name used for Hungary), in the area that they called Bojka. Neighbors of White Serbs were Frankish State and pagan Great or White Croatia. Porphyrogennetos claims that after two brothers inherited administration over Serbia (i.e. White Serbia) from their father, one of them, with half of the people, escaped to the Byzantine Empire (i.e. to the Balkans), which was governed by emperor Heraclius (610-641).[14][15][16] According to German historian L. A. Gebhardi, two brothers that inherited administration over White Serbia were sons of prince Dervan.[17]
In the Balkans, Serbs settled first around rivers Tara, Ibar, Drina and Lim (in the present-day border region of Serbia, Montenegro and Bosnia and Herzegovina, but also Dalmatia), and joined with surrounding South Slavic tribes that came to the Balkans earlier (in the 6th century) and the Paleo-Balkan people. Over time, the South Slavic and mostly Illyrian tribes of this territory mixed with the Serbs and also adopted Serb name as their own.[1]
Another part of the White Serbs did not migrated southwards, but remained in the Elbe region. Descendants of these White Serbs are the present day Lusatian Serbs (Sorbs), who still live in the Lusatia (Lužica, Lausitz) region of eastern Germany.
There are also opinions that data from "De administrando imperio" that describes Serb migration to the Balkans is not correct and that Serbs came to the Balkans from Eastern Slavic lands, together with other South Slavs.[18][19]
The Emperor Constantine III (641) transferred a part of the Slavs from the Balkans (Vardar region) to Asia Minor. There these migrants founded the city of Gordoservon, the name of which gives grounds for supposing that among its founders there were Serbs.[20] The city was also known under names Gordoserbon and Servochoria.
Various theories about origin of the Serbs[edit]
The Iranian theory[edit]
Theory about Iranian origin of the Serb ethnonym assumes that ancient Serbi / Serboi from north Caucasus (Asiatic Sarmatia) were an Sarmatian (Alanian) tribe.[21] The theory subsequently assumes that Alanian Serbi were subdued by the Huns in the 4th century and that they, as part of the Hunnic army, migrated to the western edge of the Hunnic Empire (in the area of Central Europe near the river Elbe, later designated as White Serbia in what is now Saxony (eastern Germany) and western Poland). After Hunnic leader Attila died (in 453), Alanian Serbi presumably became independent and ruled in the east of the river Saale (in modern day Germany) over local Slavic population.[21][22] Over time, they, it is argued, intermarried with the local Slavic population of the region,[21][22] adopted Slavic language, and transferred their name to the Slavs.[23] According to Tadeuš Sulimirski, similar event could occur in the Balkans or Serbs who settled in the Balkans were Slavs who came from the north and who were ruled by already slavicized Alans.[22]
Deformed human skulls that are connected to the Alans are also discovered in the area that was later designated as "White Serbia".[23] According to Iranian interpretation, different sides of the World are designated with different colors, thus, white color is designation for the west, black color for the north, blue or green color for the east and red color for the south. According to that view, White Serbia and White Croatia were designated as western Serbia and western Croatia, and were situated in the west from some hypothetical lands that had same names and that presumably existed in the east.[24]
It is possible that the Alanian Serbi in Sarmatia, similarly like other Sarmatian/Iranian peoples on the northern Caucasus, originally spoke an Indo-European Iranian language similar to present-day Ossetian. The Ossetian language is a member of Eastern Iranian branch of Iranian languages, along with Pashtun, Yaghnobi and languages of the Pamir. One of the Pashtun tribal groups in Afghanistan and Pakistan is known as Sarbans (Sarbani) and Pashtuns are believed to be of Scythian descent[25] while their language is classified as East Scythian[26] (Sarmatian language is also grouped within Scythian branch).
In Polish history, the Polish nobility claimed to be direct descendants of the historic Sarmatian people (see: Sarmatism) and this might be connected with historical White Serbia and White Croatia, which included parts of present-day Poland.[citation needed]
The Autochthonic theory[edit]
This theory assumes that Serbs are an autochthonic people in the Balkans and Podunavlje, where they presumably lived before historical Slavic and Serb migration to the Balkans in the 6th-7th centuries.[27] Proponents of this theory (for example Jovan Deretić, Olga Luković Pjanović, Miloš Milojević) claimed that Serbs either came to the Balkans long before the 7th century or Serb 7th century migration to the Balkans was only partial and Serbs who, according to "De administrando imperio", came from the north founded in the Balkans other Serbs that already lived there.[28] It is suggested that ancient city of Serbinum in Pannonia was named after these hypothetical autochthonic Serbs.[29]
The Serbo-Slavic theory[edit]
In the mid-9th century the so-called Bavarian Geographer wrote that people named Zeriuani had so large kingdom that all Slavic peoples originated from there (or from them).[30][31] According to one of interpretations, Zeriuani are identified with Serbs, and there are opinions that "Serbs" was an old name of all Slavic peoples.[32] However, according to other opinions, Zeriuani might be a name used for Severians or Sarmatians instead for Serbs.[33]
- ^ a b Sava S. Vujić - Bogdan M. Basarić, Severni Srbi (ne)zaboravljeni narod, Beograd, 1998, page 36.
- ^ Živko D. Petković, Prve pojave srpskog imena, Beograd, 1996, page 9.
- ^ a b c Aleksandar M. Petrović, Arheografija naroda jugoistočne Evrope, Beograd, 2006, page 19.
- ^ De administrando imperio, Constantine VII Porphyrogenitus (Emperor of the East), Gyula Moravcsik, Pázmány Péter Tudományegyetemi Görög Filológiai Intézet, 1949, page 115.
- ^ a b Parameśa Caudhurī, India in Kurdistan, Qwality Book Company, 2005, page 79.
- ^ The Slavs: their early history and civilization, Francis Dvornik, American Academy of Arts and Sciences, 1959, page 28.
- ^ Constantini Porphyrogenneti... libri duo De ceremoniis aulæ Byzantinæ. Prodeunt nunc primum Græce, cum Latina interpretatione et commentariis. Curarunt Io. Henricus Leichius et Io. Iacobus Reiskius..., VII Constantin, Gleditschius, 1754, page 397.
- ^ The early medieval Balkans: a critical survey from the sixth to the late twelfth century, John Van Antwerp Fine, University of Michigan Press, 1991, page 56.
- ^ Aleksandar M. Petrović, Arheografija naroda jugoistočne Evrope, Beograd, 2006, page 20.
- ^ Živko D. Petković, Prve pojave srpskog imena, Beograd, 1996, pages 18-19.
- ^ a b c d e f g Živko D. Petković, Prve pojave srpskog imena, Beograd, 1996, pages 8, 11, 12, 43, 46.
- ^ a b Živko D. Petković, Prve pojave srpskog imena, Beograd, 1996, page 5.
- ^ Živko D. Petković, Prve pojave srpskog imena, Beograd, 1996, page 25.
- ^ Sava S. Vujić - Bogdan M. Basarić, Severni Srbi (ne)zaboravljeni narod, Beograd, 1998, pages 38-39.
- ^ Aleksandar M. Petrović, Kratka arheografija Srba, Novi Sad, 1994, pages 90-91.
- ^ Vladimir Ćorović, Ilustrovana istorija Srba, knjiga prva, Beograd, 2005, page 61.
- ^ Sava S. Vujić - Bogdan M. Basarić, Severni Srbi (ne)zaboravljeni narod, Beograd, 1998, page 40.
- ^ Relja Novaković, Još o poreklu Srba, Beograd, 1992, page 57.
- ^ Nikola Jeremić, Srpska zemlja Bojka, Zemun, 1993, page 33.
- ^ The Macedonian question: the struggle for southern Serbia, Đoko M. Slijepčević, American Institute for Balkan Affairs, 1958, page 50.
- ^ a b c Miodrag Milanović, Srpski stari vek, Beograd, 2008, page 81.
- ^ a b c Relja Novaković, Još o poreklu Srba, Beograd, 1992, page 46.
- ^ a b Relja Novaković, Još o poreklu Srba, Beograd, 1992, page 48.
- ^ Relja Novaković, Srbi, Zemun, 1993, page 61.
- ^ A brief history of Afghanistan, Shaista Wahab, Barry Youngerman, Infobase Publishing, 2007, page 14.
- ^ The history and geography of human genes, Luigi Luca Cavalli-Sforza, Paolo Menozzi, Alberto Piazza, Princeton University Press, 1994, page 242.
- ^ Aleksandar M. Petrović, Kratka arheografija Srba, Novi Sad, 1994, pages 9-10.
- ^ Aleksandar M. Petrović, Kratka arheografija Srba, Novi Sad, 1994, page 10.
- ^ Aleksandar M. Petrović, Kratka arheografija Srba, Novi Sad, 1994, page 8.
- ^ Aleksandar M. Petrović, Kratka arheografija Srba, Novi Sad, 1994, page 90.
- ^ Quaestiones medii aevi, Томови 1-4, Uniwersytet Warszawski. Instytut Historyczny, Polskie Towarzystwo Historyczne. Commission d'histoire médiévale, Éditions de l'Université de Varsovie, 1977, page 31.
- ^ Lazo M. Kostić, O srpskom imenu, Srbinje - Novi Sad, 2000, pages 38-39.
- ^ Prosvjeta, Том 16, Društvo hrvatskih književnika., 1908, page 216.
Further reading[edit]
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- Aleksandar M. Petrović, Kratka arheografija Srba, Novi Sad, 1994.
- Živko D. Petković, Prve pojave srpskog imena, Beograd, 1996.
- Lazar Šebek, Stari Srbi, Serbi sveske 2, Izdavač: Krim, Beograd, Ložionička 4.
- Lazo M. Kostić, O srpskom imenu, Srbinje - Novi Sad, 2000.
- Sava S. Vujić - Bogdan M. Basarić, Severni Srbi (ne)zaboravljeni narod, Beograd, 1998.
- Nikola Jeremić, Srpska zemlja Bojka, Zemun, 1993.
- Relja Novaković, Baltički Sloveni u Beogradu i Srbiji, Beograd, 1985.
- Relja Novaković, Još o poreklu Srba, Beograd, 1992.
- Relja Novaković, Srbi, Beograd, 1993.
- Relja Novaković, Srbi i njihovi pradavni srodnici, Beograd, 2000.
- Ernst Schwartz, Das Vordringen der Slawen nach Western, Südost-Forschungen, Band XV, Mönchen 1956
- Ernestus Brotuff, Chronica von den Salz-Bornen und Erbauung der Hall an der Sala... (Weiland J.J. 1554) in zwei Büchern Verfaset und Fleiss beschrieben. Hall in Sachsen 1679
- Franz Martin, Pelzels Geschichte der Böhmen, von ältesten bis auf die neuesten Zeiten. Aus den besten einheimischen und auswärtigen Geschichtsschreibern, Kroniken und gleichzeitigen Handschriften zusammen getragen, Erster Theil, Vierte fortgesetzte Auflage, Prag 1817
- Franz Grabler, Aus dem Geschichtswerk des Laonikos Chalkokondilos. Europa im XV. Jahrhundert von Byzantinern gesehen. Byzantinische Geschichtsschreiber, Graz-Wien-Köln (1954)
- Friderici Wideburgii, Origines et antiquitates Marggraviatus Misnici... Halae Salicae 1734
- Franc. Xav. El. B. De Pejacsevich, Historia Serviae seu colloquia XIII de Statu Regni et religionis Serviae ab exordio ad finem, sive a saeculo VII ad XV. Auetore F.X. El. B. de Pejacsevich. Colocae MDCCXCVI (1796)
- Howorth, Henry Hoyle, The Spread of the Slaves, The Journal of the Anthropological Institute of Great Britain and Ireland, vol. IX, London 1880, Part III The Northern Serbs or Sorabiens and the Obodriti
- Martin Kromer, De origine et rebus gestis Polonorum Iibri XXX (1555)
- Mauro Orbini, II regno De gli Slavi Hoggi corrottamente detti Schü-voni... In Pesaro MDCI (1601)
- Monumenta Germaniae Historica... Ed. G.H. Pertz. Tomus I-VI 1826-1844
- Nikolaus Volrab, Chronica von den Antiquiteten des Keisrlichen Stiftes/der Römische Burg und Stadt Marseburg... (Budišin 1556)
- Neuve Chronica Türkischer Nation von Türken selbst beschrieben Frankfurt am Mayn 1590
- Pomponii Melae de Chorographia Iibri tres recognovit Caroli;:- Fnck. Lipsiae 1880
- P.J. Schafariks, Slawische Alterthümer, II, Leipzig 1844
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- Hana Skalovä, Topografickä mapa üzemi Obodricü a Veletu-Luticu ve svetle mistnfch Jmen. Vznik a pocätky Slovanü. Pracha 1965
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- Johann Georg Essigs Kurze Einleitung zu der allgemeinen und besonderen Welthistorie, aufs neue übersehen, vermehrt, und bis auf gegenwärtige Zeit fortgesetzte, von M. Johann Christian Walz, Prof. der Historie am Her-zogl. Gimnasio. Zehnte Ausgabe, Stuttgart 1777
- Karl Gottlob Anton, Erste Linien eines Versuches über die alten Slawen Ursprung, Sitten, Gebräuche, Meinungen und Kenntnisse. Ausgearbeitet von K.G. Anton, D. Leipzig 1783
- Karl Gottlob Anton, Geschichte der Teutschen Nazion, Erster Theil... Geschichte der Germanen, Leipzig 1793
- Karl Penka, Origines Ariacae, Linguistisch-ethnologische Untersuchungen zur ältesten Geschichte der arischer Völker und Sprache. Wien und Te-schen 1883
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- Ludwig Giesebrecht, Wendische Geschichten von der Karolingerzeit, Baltische Studien, Sechsten Jahrgang, Zweites Heft, Stettin 1839
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- Blondi Flavii Foroiuliensis Historiarum de inclinatione Romanorum. Impressarum Venetiis Thomam Alexandrinum anno Salutis MCCCCLXXXiiii (1484) Kalendis Julii. Tu i Abreviatio Pii Pont max. supra decades Blondi ab Inclinatione Imperii usque ad tempora Joannis Vicesimi tertii Pont. max.
- Chronica von dem Antiquiteten des Stifftes/der Romische Burg und Stadt Marseburg/an der Salach by Türingen/mit viel alten schöne Historien und Geschichten/als sich etwan vor alten Zeiten in Sachsen/Türingen/Meis-sen/und zu Wenden begeben... Gedruckt zu Budisin durch Nicolaum Wolrab MDLVI (1556)
- Chronicon HoIIandiae de Hollandorum Repub. et Rebus Gestis com-mentarii Hugonis Grolii, Jani Dovsae patris, Jani Dovsae filii, Lugduni Ba-tavorum 1617
- Conjectus introduetionis, in notitiam Regni Hungriae Geographicam, Historicam, Politicam et Chronologicam, inde a prima Gentis et Regionis Hungaricae Originibus usque ad aetatem nostram. Breviter et succinte, per successions temporum, produetam "Studio et Opera Joannis Tomka Szäszky", Posonii 1759
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- Chronici Carionis a Philippo Melanthone aueti et expositi... (1532). Anno 1581, 1593 [Wittebergae] MOXCIII (1593)
- Cyriacus M. Spangenberg, Quenfurtische Chronica. Historischer Bericht, von der Aelten und Loblichen Herrschaft Quernfurt in Sachsen... vor und nach der Geburt Christi... In vier Bücher zusammengebracht durch M. Cyr. Spang. MDXC (1590)
- Dauidis Chytrej Chronicon Saxoniae et vicini orbis aretoi. Pars prima. Ab anno Christi 1500 usque ad 1524 cum indice. Rostochii anno CIDIDXCII (1592)
- Dissertatio de Lecho et Slavorum origine video meliora, proboque. Acta Societatis Jablonovianae de Slavis Lecho Czechoque. Item de Veris Zichis. Anni CIDIDCCLXXI (1771)
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- Early references to Serboi: Alexander Kazhdan, Oxford Dictionary of Byzantium (1991), vol.3, pp. 1875f.
- Aleksandar J. Vukosavljević: Neka zapažanja o 30. glavi De administrando imperio — analiza izvora i osvrt na jedan dio istoriografije, Cape Town, 2004


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Sun, Dec 19, 04 at 17:22
I just had brunch at Souen, a macrobiotic/vegetarian restaurant near Union Square here in New York, and was charmed by an odd collection of fluorescent, incandescent, and floodlight bulbs posed near the ceiling at odd angles to keep an assortment of indoor plants alive. The effect was very macro-scruffy-organic, but kind of nice.
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Bubby's in DUMBO (Brooklyn) has a bunch of HID fluorescents hanging around for its plants. I helpfully pointed this out to my DW as an example of how grow lights can co-exist with hip design; her reply was, "I think they're ugly." Alas. There's also a plant store/cafe in the flower district (6th. Ave, 26-27th street I think) that I think is very cool; the tables are set around groups of plants for sale, and the even have wall-hanging fountains filled with ferns, bromeliads, etc. on the walls! Jim |
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- You know, I really don't think there are enough photos of Kim Kardashian in the universe. Good thing she is releasing a book of selfies. (Yes, really.) Titled Kim Kardashian Selfish, the coffee table book from publisher Rizzoli comes out/the apocalypse is nigh in 2015. [US Weekly]
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Hmm, interesting, I'v always wanted to see this, considering i never have, and always hear people arguing about how good it is, and o the other hand, how much it sucks(Narutard, wtf?)
kinda lookin forward to it, thx for info
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For those of you who are interested, the schedual for Naruto on the Cartoon Network has now been made official...
This is from the Shonen Jump USA online newsletter located here...Naruto will debut on Cartoon Network on... Saturday, Sept. 10, at 9:00pm, as part of the Toonami block. Episode 1 will run at 9:00pm, and Episode 2 will run at 9:30pm. Yeah, two in a row. Then, Cartoon Network will repeat Episode 1 at 10:00pm and Episode 2 at 10:30pm.
The following Saturday, Sept. 17, Naruto will settle into its regular weekly broadcast schedule: 9:00pm.
So how long will it take for the Forums to be swamped with newbie ninja wannabe's... (grumble grumble grumble...)
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Hmm, interesting, I'v always wanted to see this, considering i never have, and always hear people arguing about how good it is, and o the other hand, how much it sucks(Narutard, wtf?)
kinda lookin forward to it, thx for info
I wonder how butchered the anime is gonna be. But it's finally hitting our shores.
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Ah, hell... I thought this was just a rumor. Naruto is another in the long list of good series gone bad once brought over.
So this means One Piece won't be showing anymore on Toonami when that happens. Also, guys, anime on toonami and adult swim do show blood and swear words, but not to an extreme amount(except for adult swim).
good times Naruto kunnnn!! I am very happy that they are bring Naruto american tv since they needed to spice it up some.
Hey if you don't understand what i am saying it just because I'm black.
to destroy all mankind for the benifits of pandas and Squirells alike.
I will make your brain hurt with not using commas and periods and putting Caps where there shouldn't be hahaha. The sparky strikes again haha
Dammit! I hate living in england, we always get everything last!
Well i am glad that i'll finally get to follow each episode without having to go to a friends house and watch it on a damn computer, so thats a plus. I just fear how badly Cartoon Network will milk Naruto for all it's worth. So i sorta have mixed feeling on the issue...


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What: The Seventh Generation is the latest installment of the Big Idea Talks.
When: 7 p.m. in the Walla Walla Public Library, 238 E. Alder St.
Roughly seven generations have passed since Marcus and Narcissa Whitman first came to the Valley. Together with Don Snow of Whitman College, the next seven generations will be thought and talked about on March 28.
Other spring Big Idea talks: Bob Carson, "Walla Walla and Sustainability," April 11; Nicole Pietratoni and Michelle Acuff, "Public Art Practices: New Possibilities for Engaged Placemaking in Walla Walla," May 17.
Admission: free.
Details: 509-527-4550.
WALLA WALLA — The seventh generation, sustainability, public art, punishment, Latinos and the future of food.
Each of these topics inspires big conversation, big debate and, soon to come, the first Big Idea Talks sponsored by Whitman College and the Walla Walla Public Library.
"It's a way to bring different groups into the library, not necessarily to talk about academics, but for talks that are of public interest," Big Idea Talks moderator Julia Ireland said.
The six-series program of guest speakers is funded through a Humanities Washington grant; three take place this spring and three next fall.
The first talk on March 28 will feature Whitman College environmental humanities professors Don Snow, who will discusses the Iroquois tradition of seventh generation planning.
Other Big Idea Talks will look at issues like the effects of the State Penitentiary on the community or the state-of-the-state for local Latinos.
But while the focus at the talks will be local, each topic is also one that has national or even global impact.
"A lot of it came about because there are a lot of professors on the Whitman campus that are doing research both globally and locally," Library Director Beth Hudson said.
In spite of being only a few blocks away from the city library, the separation between academia and the larger community tends to be more like a chasm. And one of the other goals of the Big Idea Talks is bridge the gap between the two.
"These (professors) are people who are just as interested in the community. This is where we live. This is where the children of our faculty go to school. So there is a deep concern about the community," Ireland, who is also Whitman philosophy professor, said.
So when Don Snow kicks off the first Big Ideas Talks on seventh generation planning, the idea will also be to connect better with the neighboring community by coming to the common ground of a community.
"We thought this would be a bridge to community issues ... I think having it in the library is one of the most important things about it. And the faculty are very excited and supportive," Ireland said.
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This Is the End | |
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Directed by | |
Produced by |
Screenplay by |
Based on | Jay and Seth versus the Apocalypse by Jason Stone |
Starring | |
Music by | Henry Jackman |
Cinematography | Brandon Trost |
Edited by | Zene Baker |
Production company | |
Distributed by | Columbia Pictures |
Release date(s) |
Running time | 106 minutes[1] |
Country | United States |
Language | English |
Budget | $32 million[2] |
Box office | $126,041,322[2] |
This Is the End | |
Theatrical release poster | |
Directed by | |
Produced by |
Screenplay by |
Based on | Jay and Seth versus the Apocalypse by Jason Stone |
Starring | |
Music by | Henry Jackman |
Cinematography | Brandon Trost |
Edited by | Zene Baker |
Production company | |
Distributed by | Columbia Pictures |
Release date(s) |
Running time | 106 minutes[1] |
Country | United States |
Language | English |
Budget | $32 million[2] |
Box office | $126,041,322[2] |
This Is the End is a 2013 American disaster comedy film written and directed by Seth Rogen and Evan Goldberg in their directorial debut, starring an ensemble cast including Rogen, James Franco, Jonah Hill, Jay Baruchel, Danny McBride, Craig Robinson, Michael Cera and Emma Watson. They play versions of themselves which are to varying degrees fictional, in the aftermath of a global apocalypse. The film was released on June 12, 2013, and was a critical and commercial success. Due to the success of the film, Columbia Pictures had the film re-released on September 6, 2013.[3]
Jay Baruchel arrives in Los Angeles to visit his old friend and fellow actor Seth Rogen, who invites Baruchel to attend a housewarming party hosted by James Franco. Baruchel is uncomfortable being around many people he does not know well, so Rogen accompanies him to a convenience store for cigarettes.
While at the convenience store, the ground begins to shake and beams of blue light from the sky carry away nearby people, but leave Rogen and Baruchel behind. The two flee back to Franco's house amid mass chaos, only to find the party undisturbed. Baruchel tries to explain that it is the Apocalypse, but his theory is dismissed. Moments later, the ground shakes again and the partygoers rush outside. The earth splits open in Franco's yard, swallowing most celebrity partygoers, while Rogen, Baruchel, Franco, Jonah Hill and Craig Robinson survive by running back into the house. They take inventory of their supplies, set up a ration system, fortify the house, and await help.
Danny McBride, who attended the party uninvited and passed out in the bathtub, wakes up first. Not knowing about the crisis, he makes breakfast using the majority of the food in the house. The others awake and tell him of the night's events, which he does not initially believe until an outsider is decapitated in their presence.
Later, Emma Watson, another survivor of the party, returns. However, due to a misunderstanding, she leaves, taking the group's remaining drinks with her. Robinson is then chosen to travel outside to the basement for water, but finds the door locked and returns after an encounter with an unknown being.
Robinson's experience with the creature causes him to believe Baruchel's theory of the Apocalypse. The group reaches the basement by digging through the floor and they find the water, but McBride wastes much of it out of spite. The group unanimously decides to vote McBride out of the house, which they later rescind after McBride tells a pathetic story. When McBride decides to leave anyway, Franco gives him a revolver, which McBride then attempts to use to kill the others, only filled with blanks. Before leaving, McBride attacks everyone's characters flaws and attempting to obliterate Baruchel's self-righteousness, points out that two months ago, McBride met him at the Four Seasons and recalls that he specifically asked McBride not to tell Rogen that he was there to maintain the illusion of always staying with Rogen. Hill then chastises Baruchel, claiming that it's probably his fault for "putting him on a pedestal" and Baruchel punches Hill in the face. Later that night, Hill prays for Baruchel to die and is raped by a demon.
The next day, Robinson volunteers to explore a neighboring home for supplies with Baruchel. Meanwhile, Franco and Rogen find Hill unconscious from what looks like an LBS episode, but he wakes up possessed. Hill then chases Franco and Rogen while Robinson and Baruchel flee a demonic bull at the neighbor's house. The group subdues Hill and ties him up, but during an exorcism attempt, Baruchel and Rogen get into a fight and knocking a candle over, engulfing Hill and the house in flames before being crushed by a huge plank of wood, with his fate unknown.
Outside, Franco suggests taking his Prius to escape to his home in Malibu, but a winged demon has roosted nearby, and is fixated on them. Robinson volunteers to sacrifice himself as a distraction. The plan succeeds and Robinson is raptured. As the others escape, they notice that Robinson was saved because he sacrificed himself and it means there is still hope for them. Suddenly, the car is t-boned by an armored motor home filled with cannibals led by McBride, who intends to eat them. Franco volunteers to sacrifice himself to save the others and get himself raptured, which initially works, but he can't resist taunting McBride and loses his rapture beam. Franco is then eaten alive by McBride and his cannibals as Rogen and Baruchel flee, being chased. When a colossal-sized demon approaches them that may or not be Satan himself, the two try to seek salvation by expressing their (platonic?) love for each other. This brings the blue beam on Baruchel, but not Rogen, but they both go up with Rogen holding onto Baruchel. The beam starts flickering meaning Rogen is weighing Baruchel down, Rogen insists that he let go, and when he does, Rogen gets his own beam, and apparently defeats the demon that was about to swallow him, ripping it apart.
In Heaven, Robinson, who is now an angel, tells the two that Heaven is a place where any desire comes true. Baruchel wishes for the Backstreet Boys and the band performs a synchronized dance with other Heaven residents to "Everybody (Backstreet's Back)".
Most of the film's cast portray fictional, exaggerated versions of themselves:[4]
According to Rogen and Goldberg, "We always wanted to do a movie where people played themselves and something extraordinary happened; the initial version of the film was Seth Rogen and Busta Rhymes were filming a music video and a film respectively, on the Sony lot, and Antmen attacked from the center of the earth."[5] The film is also based on Jay and Seth versus the Apocalypse, a short film created by Stone and Goldberg in 2007.[6] In an interview with The Guardian, Goldberg commented on influences contributing to the film, saying "[i]f you drilled down to the core of what I do, it's just ripping off little bits of Charlie Kaufman. Seth and I always loved The Larry Sanders Show too. And the popularity of reality television now also feeds into that idea of whether what we're watching is actually real. We thought working with our friends in that situation would be awesome because they're all comedians willing to take stabs at themselves."[7] The actors play exaggerated versions of themselves, with only James Franco having no objections to doing what the script wanted him to do.[8]
While set in Los Angeles, principal photography was in New Orleans due to tax rebates that would keep the budget low. Filming rolled from February to early July 2012.[9] After filming wrapped, Rogen and Goldberg were displeased about the ending they had originally shot. They thought of putting Morgan Freeman in Heaven, but the actor declined.[10] Since "Everybody (Backstreet's Back)" already played in a scene and the directors wanted to close on an over-the-top note, the directors decided to feature the Backstreet Boys in the scene instead.[11] During production, the film was titled The Apocalypse,[6] a name later changed to The End of the World (20th Century Fox owns the rights to the title The Apocalypse).[6][12] The name changed to This Is the End on December 20, 2012, upon the release of its first trailer and poster.[13] This was done at the request of Rogen's Paul co-star Simon Pegg, who wrote to Rogen in concern that The End of the World was too similar a title to his comedy film The World's End, also released in the summer of 2013 and centered around an apocalypse with an ensemble cast. As The World's End was the name of a key location in that film, Pegg worried he could not change the name of his film.[14] Modus FX made 240 visual effects for the film, which include natural disasters, set extensions for the house that serves as a primary location, computer-generated demons, and the Rapture lights that raise people to Heaven.[15]
In March 2013, the release date was pushed forward two days to June 12, 2013.[16] On April 1, 2013, Sony released an April Fools' Day trailer for Pineapple Express 2, which was in fact a teaser trailer for This Is the End.[17] According to Rogen and Goldberg, however, the homemade Pineapple Express 2 film in This Is the End depicts what they envision for the actual sequel.[18]
This Is the End: Original Motion Picture Soundtrack | |
Soundtrack album by Various Artists | |
Released | June 11, 2013 |
Recorded | 2013 |
Genre | Film soundtrack |
Length | 48:43 |
Label | RCA Records |
This Is the End: Original Motion Picture Soundtrack is the soundtrack of the film. It was released on June 11, 2013[19][20] by RCA Records.
No. | Title | Performer(s) | Length | |
1. | "Take Yo Panties Off" | Snoop Lion & Craig Robinson | 5:06 | |
2. | "Step Into a World (Rapture's Delight)" | KRS-One | 4:50 | |
3. | "Tipsy (Club Mix)" | J-Kwon | 4:05 | |
4. | "A Joyful Process" | Funkadelic | 6:17 | |
5. | "Love in the Old Days" | Daddy | 4:18 | |
6. | "When the Shit Goes Down" | Cypress Hill | 3:11 | |
7. | "Watchu Want" | Belief & Karniege | 2:57 | |
8. | "Easy Fix" | K.Flay | 3:36 | |
9. | "Spirit in the Sky" | Norman Greenbaum | 3:58 | |
10. | "Everybody (Backstreet's Back)" | Backstreet Boys | 3:45 | |
11. | "Please Save My Soul" | Church Friends Choir featuring Pamela Landrum | 2:07 | |
12. | "I Will Always Love You" | Whitney Houston | 4:33 | |
Total length: | 48:43 |
The score by Henry Jackman, with additional material by Dominic Lewis and Matthew Margeson and conducted by Nick Glennie-Smith, was not officially released on its own, not even as bonus tracks on the CD or digital releases on RCA's album. Despite that, a promotional album for the score does exist, according to Soundtrack.net.[21]
No. | Title | Length | |
1. | "Rapture on Melrose" | 1:47 | |
2. | "Hills on Fire/The Sinkhole" | 3:36 | |
3. | "Foreboding News Report" | 0:22 | |
4. | "Can't Sleep" | 0:43 | |
5. | "Head Guy" | 0:30 | |
6. | "The Sinkhole Remains" | 0:35 | |
7. | "This Shit is Biblical" | 0:58 | |
8. | "Boredom Montage" | 0:36 | |
9. | "Emma Returns" | 0:15 | |
10. | "Drawing Matches Pt 1" | 0:42 | |
11. | "Craig Gets the Water" | 1:37 | |
12. | "Creepy Basement Memorabilia" | 0:25 | |
13. | "The Devil Rapes Jonah" | 1:17 | |
14. | "Drawing Matches Pt 2" | 1:05 | |
15. | "Jay & Craig Go Outside" | 1:22 | |
16. | "Something's Wrong with Jonah" | 0:37 | |
17. | "Jonah is Possessed" | 0:35 | |
18. | "Demonic Chase Sequence" | 4:01 | |
19. | "Lights Out, Jay's Got a Plan" | 0:22 | |
20. | "The Exorcism of Jonah Hill" | 0:37 | |
21. | "Fire Chase" | 1:12 | |
22. | "Craig's Last Stand" | 2:15 | |
23. | "Franco's Demise" | 1:31 | |
24. | "The Rapture of Seth & Jay" | 2:25 | |
Total length: | 29:30 |
This Is the End received mostly positive reviews. Rotten Tomatoes gives the film a rating of 83% based on 206 reviews; the site's consensus states: "Energetic, self-deprecating performances and enough guffaw-inducing humor make up for the flaws in This Is the End's loosely written script."[22] On Metacritic, the film has an average rating of 67/100, indicating "generally favorable reviews."[23]
Owen Gleiberman of Entertainment Weekly gave the film a letter grade of "A", saying: "You could sit through a year's worth of Hollywood comedies and still not see anything that's genuinely knock-your-socks-off audacious. But This Is the End (opening June 12) truly is. It's the wildest screen comedy in a long time and also the smartest, the most fearlessly inspired and the snort-out-loud funniest."[24]
Brian D. Johnson of Maclean's wrote: There could be worse ways to experience the apocalypse than with a party of stoned celebrities at James Franco's house. For one thing, his epic art collection can be used to board up the cracking walls against demons and zombies. That's the screwball scenario of This Is the End...The film unfolds as a profanely funny showbiz parody. But with perfect timing, it also sends up a genre that has recently gone viral at the multiplex: the apoca-blockbuster.[25]
At the other end of the scale, Canada's The Globe and Mail compared the film to the interminable wait for a cancelled bus, giving it one and a half stars out of five, referring to the actors in the film as "the lazy, the privileged and the mirthless".[26]
This Is the End was a box office success. In the United States, the film opened at number 2 in its first weekend with $20,719,162, only behind Man of Steel's $116.6 million. "This Is the End" grossed $101,470,202 in North America, and $22,982,457 in other countries, for a worldwide total of $126,041,322.[2][27]
This Is the End was released on DVD and Blu-ray on October 1, 2013.[28]
When asked if a sequel to the film was probable, director and co-writer Evan Goldberg said, "If you ask me, I'd say there's a pretty good chance of a sequel. If you ask Seth [Rogen], he'd say no." On June 26, 2013, Goldberg announced ideas for a sequel in which the apocalypse occurs at the premiere of This Is the End. "Seth's a cokehead in this version, Michael Cera is a calm dude with a boyfriend, Rihanna and The Backstreet Boys are back," Goldberg said in an interview. "We have a lot of ideas: a heaven and hell, for example, and a garden of Eden version where Danny [McBride] is Adam."[citation needed]
Despite this, Goldberg has stated it would be difficult to re-create the casting conditions from the first film, believing them to be a stroke of luck, saying, "I honestly don't know if we could get the guys together [again]."
On June 3, 2014, Seth Rogen posted a status on Facebook saying, "I don't think we'll make a sequel to This Is The End, but if we did it would be called "No, THIS Is The End"."
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Jessica has a HaBO request, and it involves dragons. And necklaces!
OK. I am trying to find this book that I remember very specific details about things that really don't impact the plot. As you do.
I know this is a historical "paranormal" romance. I want to say it was around the regency period in England but I'm not entirely sure. All I remember is that the hero gives the heroine a pet dragon egg that she stays up for days waiting for it to hatch in the fireplace (as you do) and that it comes out white like an opal.
This pet dragon then stays wrapped around the heroine's neck like a fancy warm necklace and I think saves her from some baddies who were after her (because why not, let's just throw some suspense in with the dragons and the magic).
This book is bugging me know and every time I try and Google it I get medieval romances with some dragon warrior. I'm hoping you might remember this book.
Do you remember that scene, or the book? And is it me or does the dragon curling around her neck and protecting her seem adorably endearing?


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Just wondering if there is a swap for fall this year. My sister and her husband are moving into a new house and wondered if I could help them out. Thank You |
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Hello Phoenix. Yes, we have one planned. For october 10, I believe. Roselee....you out there anywhere ? Can you verify this please ? It will be held at MacArthur Park on Loop 410, on the northside. there is also a swap in Buda if you're interested. Please email me directly if you'd like any more information. I would have emailed you, but your My Page does not show an email for you. Hope to hear from you. patty |
Yes, 10-10-09. Pavilion #3 at MacArthur Park. We'll look forward to seeing you there Joey and everybody. |
If anyone sees this and not the other post please list your haves and wants there. Isn't it nice the weather has cooled a bit? Makes a day at the park swapping plants sound like more fun than it did when it was 103 degrees :-) |
Here is a link that might be useful: Haves and wants for the S.A.P.S.
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The third and, in our opinion, greatest multiplayer mode is the Backlot Battle. This is the mode that takes full advantage of Stuntman: Ignition's strengths. In other words, it's all about the stunts. Placing first will net you a few points. Placing last, but taking the time to smash every obstacle, jump off every ramp, power slide through every turn, squeeze through every gap and swipe every other car on the road will earn you far more.
Ramming your competitors' vehicles has other benefits, too. If someone in front of you seems to be stringing together an amazing combination of stunts, use your nitro to surge forward and bump them from behind. You'll automatically steal all the points they were building up.
In the midst of this chaotic free-for-all, each player must still find a way to complete each of the official director's stunts. Talk about stress. But you can use this to your opponent's disadvantage, purposefully pushing them away from the necessary markers. Five misses and they're out of the race entirely.
We've got video of the Backlot Battle madness below. See for yourself:
The final multiplayer mode isn't actually online, but a one-at-a-time, pass-the-controller competition called Stunt Tourney. You and your friends each take a turn on Stuntman: Ignition's movie tracks and, at the end, the game will compare everyone's best scores.
Finally, all of the modes except Stunt Tourney can be played in split-screen. Sadly, split-screen will be PS2 owners' only option, as that version does not go online.
If you still want to get into the drivers seat, we have new screens of Stuntman you can see by clicking on the Images tab at the top of the page and even more video available if you click on the Movies tab.


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I use Starsan, it's not cheap, but is very good. And at the low levels that you useit, it can't be bad for the environment. What helps bring the cost down is that you can reuse it for quite some time.
I read somewhere that the active ingredients in One-Step is almost the same thing as the ingredients as Oxy-Clean. Heck One-Step says it uses oxygen to clean and sanitize.
I just use iodophor... seems to work well. If something is really needing to be cleaned and sanitzed, then I just bleach the heck out of it... then it is easy to clean and nice and sanitized too
quick and cheap sanitizer is two capfuls of unscented bleach to one gallon of water.sanitize all buckets before and after brewing.remember to rinse all brewing items to remove bleach odor.Also I sanitize my bottles in the dishwasher .substitute dishwasher detergent with one-step sanitizer.saves money and alot of labor
Detergent isn't actually a sanitizer is it? I imagine your technique works well because it thoroughly cleans the bottles, and it's very hot. Do you (or anyone) have any idea how hot dishwashers get? BTW, welcome to the forum!
do not -- repeat -- do no use detergent in your dishwaher.use one step. dishwasher water temp is approx. 185 degrees.always make sure strainer in bottom of dishwasher is always free of food particles.
I've also put my bottles in the oven set to 200 degrees and let them heat soak for an hour or two after rinsing them, seems to work quite well. When I pull them out of the oven I put little tin foil caps on them until they cool and I am ready to use them.


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Big thank you to WB. for sending along the official synopsis and HD trailer downloads for Josh's upcoming movie, "Journey 2: The Mysterious Island". The film will be released February 2012 and stars Josh Hutcherson, Vanessa Hudgens, Dwayne Johnson and Michael Caine.
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In this follow-up to the 2008 worldwide hit "Journey to the Center of the Earth," the new 3D family adventure "Journey 2: The Mysterious Island" begins when young Sean Anderson (Josh Hutcherson, reprising his role from the first film) receives a coded distress signal from a mysterious island where no island should exist. It's a place of strange life forms, mountains of gold, deadly volcanoes, and more than one astonishing secret.Unable to stop him from going, Sean's new stepfather, Hank (Dwayne Johnson), joins the quest. Together with a helicopter pilot (Luis Guzmán) and his beautiful, strong-willed daughter (Vanessa Hudgens), they set out to find the island, rescue its lone inhabitant and escape before seismic shockwaves force the island under the sea and bury its treasures forever.
"Journey 2: The Mysterious Island," is directed by Brad Peyton ("Cats & Dogs: The Revenge of Kitty Galore"). It also stars Michael Caine as Sean's grandfather, Alexander Anderson, and Kristin Davis as Sean's mom, Liz Anderson.
The film is produced by Beau Flynn and Tripp Vinson, and Charlotte Huggins, from a screenplay by Brian Gunn & Mark Gunn, story by Richard Outten and Brian Gunn & Mark Gunn. Serving as executive producers are Richard Brener, Michael Disco, Samuel J. Brown, Marcus Viscidi, Michael Bostick and Evan Turner. David Tattersall ("Gulliver's Travels") is the director of photography; Bill Boes ("Fantastic Four"), the production designer; David Rennie ("National Treasure: Book of Secrets"), the editor; Denise Wingate ("Wedding Crashers"), the costume designer; and Academy Award© nominee Boyd Shermis ("Poseidon"), the visual effects supervisor. Music will be composed by Andrew Lockington.
"Journey 2: The Mysterious Island" is a New Line Cinema presentation of a Contrafilm production and will be distributed by Warner Bros. Pictures, a Warner Bros. Entertainment Company.
Photos of Josh signing autographs, taking photos with fans and being interviewed have been added. The trailer was uploaded in our previous post; screen captures of the trailer can be seen here. Videos, taken by fans, have also been uploaded on Youtube.
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The full trailer for the highly anticipated upcoming film THE HUNGER GAMES, which will be released by Lionsgate on March 23, 2012, debuted today. Following its national broadcast premiere on ABC's Good Morning America in which the trailer was introduced by Josh Hutcherson, it was made available worldwide on iTunes Movie Trailers (www.itunes.com/trailers). The trailer can be viewed here.
In an attempt to preserve the anticipation and mystery that fans are relishing, the trailer only shows footage from the first half of the film, chronicling events leading up to but not including the Games themselves. After giving fans their first look at all of the book's beloved characters brought to life, giving viewers who haven't read the book vital information about the world of Panem, the trailer ends with an electrifying cliffhanger right as Katniss enters the arena.
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While the odds may not be in favor of these actors in the arena, they certainly were in the casting room. In what was one of the most-watched casting calls for young actors since Twilight, auditions for The Hunger Games were a battle royale in their own right. Anxious to make the cut, hopefuls went all out: they covered their faces with dirt, put twigs in their hair, and wielded various weapons (including a Nerf crossbow and plastic butcher knife). It was all for the chance to play the "tributes" who fight each other to the death in contests broadcast throughout Panem (the futuristic ruins of North America) in the film adaptation of Suzanne Collins's wildly popular young-adult novels. Ultimately, director Gary Ross took a liking to a fresh-faced cast that includes stars Jennifer Lawrence, Josh Hutcherson, and Liam Hemsworth, and a host of new breakout actors. Scroll your mouse over their faces to get the basics on the soon-to-be household names, and read about how they got their highly coveted roles. Read more at the source.
This unfussy one sheet is a simple yet compelling look at the baker's son. Pictured in profile and wearing a plain T-shirt, Peeta appears determined and yet somehow vulnerable, all at the same time. (Not to mention he looks so young, right?!) I just want to reach through the computer screen, give him a hug and tell him everything will be all right. But, again, as any bona fide "Hunger Games" acolyte will tell you, Peeta boasts plenty of mettle without my meddling.
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MTV News: You've experienced the whole award and recognition thing before, but how does it feel to be named to our New Class?
Josh Hutcherson: It's very nice, especially to be considered with the group I'm in here with, all peers of mine I admire very much. I've been an actor for a long time, so to finally get some recognition from some people that I think are really cool is pretty nice.
MTV: It seems like this past year has been a whirlwind. Take us through all the projects you're juggling at the moment.
Hutcherson: It's been crazy. I shot "Journey 2: The Mysterious Island" the end of last year and the beginning of this year, then I went into a little short film I shot in Cuba with Benicio Del Toro ["7 Dias en La Habana"], which was really fun, and then this summer the whole time I spent shooting "The Hunger Games," which was an amazing experience. Very exciting, and I can't wait for that to come out.
MTV: Is there someone in the business whose career you'd like to emulate?
Hutcherson: I have a few people. I've always been a big Jake Gyllenhaal fan. I like how he goes from doing a bigger studio movie to a more independent film. I am a huge Christian Bale fan; I think he's incredible and can play any role and kill it. And I'm also a die-hard Ryan Gosling fan, so those are my guys I'd like to be like.
MTV: Do you make a conscious effort to go from smaller, independent films as well as big studio films?
Hutcherson: Yeah. It's all about balance; everything in life is about balance, in my opinion. You have to do the big studio movies to keep people caring about you in a way, and also for me, I've been really fortunate. I haven't done any big studio movies that suck. They've all been good material and that's the most important thing for my career, to choose the right material and to choose the characters that I care about and stories I want to tell, so that's kind of how I've gone about my career since I was 9, more or less.
MTV: So let's talk briefly about "The Hunger Games" and that crazy audition process.
Hutcherson: For the audition process, I came in the first time and read a few scenes for [director] Gary Ross and [author] Suzanne Collins and some of the other producers involved. Then maybe about a week or so, maybe two weeks later, I came in and did a screen test with [co-star] Jennifer [Lawrence], where I actually read the scenes with her so they could see how the chemistry worked. Both of them felt really great, but as an actor, you just pick apart every single thing that you do, so for me, I was on pins and needles waiting to find out. And then when I finally found out, my jaw hit the floor. I was so excited. Read more at the source.
L.A. Times is reporting that Josh's remake of "Red Dawn" has been picked up for distribution by FilmDistrict, and the even better news – it's nearly confirmed for a 2012 release date!
The new version of the Reagan-era classic will be released in the U.S. by independent studio FilmDistrict, according to people familiar with the matter but not authorized to discuss it publicly. FilmDistrict is finalizing a deal with Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer, the studio that produced the movie in 2009.
In the original "Red Dawn," a group of teenagers in a Washington town battle invading Soviet forces; in the remake, the invaders were changed to Chinese. But that decision turned the film into a hot potato.
After MGM emerged from bankruptcy in late 2009 and decided it wouldn't release the movie, no other studio wanted to touch "Red Dawn" for fear of offending the government of China, a hugely important market in the increasingly global film business. Read more at the source.
Vanessa Hudgens updated her official site today with a photo of herself and co-star, Josh Hutcherson, at the press day for their upcoming film "Journey to the Centre of the Earth 2: The Mysterious Island".
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Josh has finally appeared at a new event, after a six month slump, and attended the 9th Annual Teen Vogue Young Hollywood party. The event is held every year and invites the very best of upcoming young acting talent. Photos from the appearance can be seen here in our photo galleries.
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Scan and transcript courtesy of JHutcherson.net. Josh's "Hunger Games" co-star Liam Hemsworth, who plays Gale Hawthrone, was also included in the September issue.
This Kentucky boy is unfailingly polite, tight with his family, and a complete sucker for romance. Are you in love yet?
We want to ask you the same thing we asked Liam: If you guys were fighting over a girl, who would win?
Let's be honest, his Australian accent kills it. It's an unfair advantage! I'd give the lady points straight to Liam. Liam is epic, man.[Seventeen asked Liam, "In The Hunger Games, your character and Josh Hutcherson's character fight for the same girl. Who would win in real life?!?" Liam said, 'Josh is a pretty charismatic dude, so he'd probably win. I'm not that good at talking to girls! Honestly, he's persuasive. I listen to him talk a lot, and he's smart, he's funny… He could convince me to do anything!']
In Hunger Games, your character is totally in love with Katniss, even when she's cold to him. Can you relate?
I feel like every relationship I get into ends up being like that! I'm someone who can fall in love at the drop of the hat. My parents raised me to be very accepting of other people, so because of that, I feel like I might be overly accepting of girls. If a girl shows any interest, I'm like, 'Yes! I love you, you're amazing!'Well what about your Journey 2 costar, Vanessa Hudgens? You're dating, right?
Oh, boy. I don't kow if 'dating' is the right word. She's awesome. We love being together. When I first met her, we just really hit it off. We could be goofy and silly and not worry about anything except having fun. I adore her.Do you have a 'type'?
I like girls I can have deep conversations with. The meaning of life and existence – you can go on forever about that stuff. When girls play the ditzy-dumb thing, I'm like, 'Oh, God, please stop.'"The perfect date is going to the beach, sitting under the stars, and listening to music. The cliches are cheesy, but I love them!"


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Opened on the 18th May this year, the Shanghai Museum of Glass in the Baoshan District is the result of a collaborative effort between architecture experts logon and exhibition interior designer Coordination Asia. Sprawling over a former glass manufacturing site totalling 29,612 sq m, the 5,785 sq m Shanghai Museum of Glass is the first stage in a four-phase plan to complete G+ Glass Theme Park (Glass, Art, Research and Technology Park). The 20 year strategic plan drawn up by logon incorporates a sculpture yard, science park, and business park, with supporting commercial facilities to be completed by 2018.
Externally the mass of the building is formed of dark U-shaped glass imported from Germany, which has been delicately sand blasted and enamelled to create a number of transparent glass-related words in a wide variety of languages. During the evening, the building volume glows from within, illuminating this text with an LED backlight against the largely black background. In direct contrast to this is the Coordination Asia-designed entrance plaza, which is light and airy with high ceilings and sharp edges ensuring that the face of the museum complex is easily recognisable.
Although the facility has been marketed as a museum, it is in fact a 'Type Two Museum'. As such, its remote location dictates that the activities and entertainment on offer must be gripping enough to encourage visitors to make the long trip to the site. In response to this, the Shanghai Museum of Glass offers a themed exhibition, hot glass shows, DIY workshops, educational lectures, libraries and interactive activities. logon explains: "It's sustainable adaptive reuse design and modern feel incorporate old and new ideas making it the first of its kind in China."
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I'm an ultra distance athlete who incessantly seeks out backcountry adventure. I'm an UltraRunner by trade, but I'm a multisport athlete at heart. Ski mountaineering in the winter, trail running and cycling in the summer. After 10 years in Seattle I moved to Salt Lake City because the Wasatch Mtns are simply amazing. I'm from New Hampshire originally, where I learned to "Live Free or Die". In December of 2005 I decided my desk job at Microsoft was in fact death... so i quit. I've been gettin' after it in the backcountry full time ever since.
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Being able to connect via my iPhone is key. You can totally manage the gopro through your phone, over bluetooth. There is about a 3 second delay, but it's key to be able to see what you are recording. The camera is smaller too, which is nice. The video quality has improved too.
Overall a great update.
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I have been exclusively backcountry for the last four years. Moving to a town that doesn't have easily accessible backcountry meant I had to buy a resort ski. I used Mountain magazine's Early Winter 2013 issue to narrow it down. This ski, the Atomic Theory, was ranked #2 in the all-mountain category. The Mantra was #1, but it's so expensive I went with the Theory... sight unseen.
Skied it yesterday for the first time and I LOVED it. Floated on the little bit of powder I found wonderfully. I was able to lay in and carve a turn, and it was obvious this ski was made for it. Being an old freestyle skier, I even wiggled it through some moguls and it responded. This is my perfect resort ski. 186cm.
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This has been the perfect tool for daily visits to the Wasatch Backcountry. It's an amazing ski. It's got plenty of float and isn't so oversized you can't get it on edge when you need it. It's light enough for the ups, and just amazing on the downs, especially if there is lots of pow to plow.
Running on the Hardrock 100 Course with my Montrail Rogue Racers.
Jay Aldous has the World Record fastest time for running 100 miles for anyone 50years old and older. He like the Montrail Rogue Fly and wrote a review on my webiste ~ http://ow.ly/buVmN
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The beauty of the GoPro HD is that it's very small and High Def (HD). So you can literally take it anywhere and get amazing videos, and the occasional good picture. They have designed the case so that it's water and shock proof. I ski with, I mtn bike with it, I run with it. The only attachment I use is the head mount for skiing. I've tried the head strap and the chestie while running and the video turned out slightly more wobbly than if I had just had it in my hand.
It works best when the sun is out, and is worthless in bad lighting. Photos seem to be even more sensitive to poor light. For pictures there is no view finder, so you simply hold it out, in the direction of what you want to take a photo of. The other huge glaring issue is that because it's so very small there is virtually no room for user a friendly interface, so we're all left to learn (often the hard way) the language of the OS.
So, it's good for actions shots in good light. It's bad for almost everything else.
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So far I've tried all the new Montrails this year. I like the Rogue Racer and the Bajadas.. but I LOVE this Rogue Fly. Super light, just protective enough for a long run (I'm running Pocatello 50 in them tomorrow) and even Outside Magazine Pays Homage with BEST shoe of 2012.
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I have a number of shirts from Mountain Hardwear and this is the one I'm always looking for when I head out for a run. It's wispy light, feels awesome against my skin and drys very very fast. This is probably the best running shirt I've ever worn.
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Trail Running: They are great unless there is a chance of ever having a tiny bit of bushwhacking or overgrown trail. Then, as you can see in my photo - they will be torn to shreds.
Backcountry Skiing: Again I love the support. However for backcountry skiing I need to be able to pee without having to untie them every time. If I don't tie them tight, they fall down and you end up fighting the crotch every step. Although they give great support, they are not good for backcountry skiing because they MUST be tied.
This jacket is sweet for very cold running, but I wear it every day I backcountry ski. It's the perfect jacket for skinnning uphill where you are working hard but still need some winter protection. It's light and it breaths just enough while keeping you warm. I just throw a puffy or a shell over it at the top for the ski down. It's THE integral piece in my setup. Get one!
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Lighter than most at 3lb 6oz per boot for size 26 (US8).
Just stiff enough to drive a fat light ski (Voile Drifters).
Good for a narrow foot.
Not as durable as I'd hoped. In about 30-40 days the touring buckles collars were bending and there was some malformed plastic.
Because the liner was so minimal my foot got really banged up from every day use. Ankle bone in particular took months post winter to heal.
The mold didn't seem to scale for the smaller sizes. There seemed to be too much going on for my small boot size. Buckles would rub, upper plastic on lower - just showed it was tested and molded at a bigger size and not redesigned at all for the smaller sizes.
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Size 26 (8 US) weighs 2lb 8oz per boot.
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i had the split skins on my 125 under foot voile drifter skis and they just didn't stick well enough. these are full length and perfect. i roll them up like a burrito because the glue is hard to get apart. but great skins so far.
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I love this shoe.
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finally dynafit came out with a crampon... and it's awesome. obviously it slides into the dynafit binding perfectly. it's light. it's solid. good stuff.
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this binding is awesome. it's the easiest to use in my opinion. the heal lift is pole accessible and this is a great binding for everyone.. beginners included. it's a bit heavier than the tlt speed, but again.. it's easier to use. great solid binding.
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this binding is a step up from the super ultra uber light dynafit race binding. i think it's the lightest version our beloved dynafit binding that i every day usable in the backcountry. the comfort heal piece turns a bit easier, but it's a bit heavier. so it's a trade off.
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Goodbye Olaf. It was nice knowing you before Riot nerfed you into oblivion. I love how instead of targeting a couple things about a champion's kit when they nerf them they usually hit the -entire- kit. In this case, huge nerf to undertow on ganks, 33% increase to Vicious Strikes CD, nerf to health items which he builds on, and the huge nerf to his ultimate passive. Before his ultimate was a defensive skill - pop it to cleanse and gain defensive steroid. Now we're supposed to use it offensively too? Amalgamate much? This just doesn't make sense. Nerfs scale multiplicatively. If you nerf one variable of a champions power by X % it nerfs their total power by that amount (assuming it's a core aspect of the kit). Now, if you nerf multiple variables of the kit by the same X % it does NOT nerf their total power by X, but instead X times the number of variables nerfed. My question is this: Why does Riot always do this? Why can they not just hit 1 or a couple things and go from there instead of constantly destroying champions with one overnerf and then reverting them... ? I hope this doesn't sound too pessimistic but it's a legitimate concern.
Trollolol NOISE
goodbye olaf? wtf get a girlfriend or something
Junior Member
These nerfs(ssssssssss) bring tears to my eyes. Good thread is good.
I agree with OP. Olaf maybe needed like 1 small change not the huge nerf hammer they took to bludgeon him to death. I'm betting after they see him not being picked for the next few weeks they'll revert them again
lol I died again
82% GD's fault. 16.8% Riot's fault because of Warmog. 1.2% Michael Jackon's fault.
Olaf was my 3rd champ, I remember the days to save up for him. I played him for a long time, and he is still one of my favorite champs. I think that this nerf makes sense. It is so he cant fight, all the time. His penetration on ult never really made sense to me because of his e. But, I think what makes me have a first world problem cry moment was when they took out HoG, that hurt my play style and lane so much. p_q
I agree Olaf was strong this season due to the items mainly.. which is all they had to tweak at first before touching his kit but they went in heavy and I won't be suprised if they regret it like they did with Diana. The only change I think was required was halving the armor penetration on his passive or finding an inbetween. +30 was far too much this season when you add everything else into the mix. I think if they reduced it to +5 Armor penetration per rank, giving a total of +15 at max rank it would have been a good first step and then obviously if that isn't enough they can look into his W. Undertow did not need to be touched at all though. Sigh.


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Lately we've received a few questions regarding the general servicing approach for Dynamics AX 2012 and Dynamics AX 2012 Feature Pack and I would like to take this opportunity to give a high-level view of how we've approached the servicing for these releases and what it means to our servicing deliverables.
I'm not going to dive into the specifics of the Feature Pack release but do want to call out that the release supports our goal of having Microsoft Dynamics AX 2012 encompass multiple industry and regulatory capabilities within the same package and deployed as a single instance. Whereas Dynamics AX 2012 had three different industry solutions (Process Industries, Public Sector, and Service Industries) and each existed as a separate solution within the FPK layer, Dynamics AX 2012 Feature Pack contains a single solution that combines the functionality of all three plus the addition of Retail into a single "Extensions" solution. This means that all of the industry solutions, Process Industries, Public Sector, Retail, and Service Industries, are now incorporated into the product and are installed the same way as other Microsoft Dynamics AX modules. For more detailed information on the Feature Pack release please refer to Microsoft Dynamics AX 2012 Feature Pack Release and The Microsoft Dynamics AX 2012 Feature Pack—Why You Should Adopt it Moving Forward.
Aside from the new combined Extensions model and new binary components for Retail and RapidStart Services the Feature Pack release was built on top of Dynamics AX 2012 (Cumulative Update 2). During the Feature Pack development we took steps to ensure that both Dynamics AX 2012 RTM and Dynamics AX 2012 Feature Pack are able to share the same servicing branch so that we can provide a consistent servicing experience. Having a single servicing baseline eliminates a lot of the complexities involved with providing servicing support but also allows us to be able to build a single patch that is applicable to both releases. For example, assume a fix is made to the kernel (AOS), in the single servicing branch model we're able to produce a single hotfix package that is applicable to both RTM and Feature Pack customers whereas servicing them independently requires making the fix into two different servicing branches (one for RTM and one for Feature Pack) which in return would result in two different hotfix deliverables. The main benefit here is that moving forward hotfix and cumulative update releases will be available as a single download and applicable to both releases.
In order to accommodate this servicing model we had to take a change to the versioning schema used in the branch from using '6.0.947.xxxx' to '6.0.1108.xxxx' where "xxxx" represents the servicing revision. So where you have seen patches for RTM components being released as "6.0.947.xxxx", you'll now see these as "6.0.1108.xxxx". However, it's important to understand that although you may have kernel\binary updates or even updates to Foundation (SYP) utilizing the "6.0.1108.xxxx" schema it is in no way an indication that you've been upgraded to the Feature Pack. Regardless of the versioning of these updates, no servicing update will upgrade you to the Feature Pack release - in order to upgrade you must download the Feature Pack and perform the upgrade per it's release notes.
We realize that the versioning can get a little complicated to understand especially given the number of different deliverables the product has. The following table helps illustrate the different versioning combinations that exist along with an emphasis on the versioning that will be used for servicing deliverables moving forward.
In addition, here's the key points on what to expect with this single branch servicing approach...
Application Servicing (SYP & FPP models):
Binary\Kernel Servicing (MSPs):
Cumulative Updates:
Lastly, one of the other areas we've been receiving is whether the release of Dynamics AX 2012 Feature Pack affects the product support lifecycle for Dynamics AX 2012. The release of the Feature Pack has no effect on the original product lifecycle for Dynamics AX 2012 and both releases continue to be supported per the original Dynamics AX 2012 lifecycle. For more information around Microsoft's support lifecycle policies please refer to Microsoft Support Lifecycle on the support site.