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I have read of the huge decline in Monarch breeding stock this year. They are now stirring and preparing for their journey north from Mexico. Many butterfly enthusiasts have made a plea for home gardeners to consider raising milkweed plants this year and many have responded that they will help. I would like to also ask for those same gardeners to plant and grow the tropical milkweed aka Bloodflower (Asclepias curassavica) this season and/ or Oscar (Asclepias Physocarpus). The reason I ask is most of the 1st year perennial milkweed will be tiny during this first year of growth, as these plants will concentrate on developing a good root structure over top growth. There will not be much in the way of leaves and almost surely, no blooms. The exception to this would be Common Milkweed (Asclepias syriaca), which usually produces more top growth the first year. This year is critical, due to the low numbers of migrating Monarchs. Tropical and Oscar Milkweed in almost all areas of the states is treated as an annual. It grows faster and will produce more leaf growth and blooms for this season, plus it regenerates faster than the perennial varieties of milkweed. There is some debate regarding growing these two milkweeds, as some people feel it encourages delays in the start of the fall migration. Others believe it has no effect; that other factors trigger the urge to begin the migration back to Mexico. Whatever side you fall on, the terribly low numbers of returning Monarchs will need all the help they can get this year. Please locate some seed of at least one of these fast growing milkweeds and get them started for summer growth. To locate sellers of milkweed seed, google milkweed seed for sale. A good source I've used in the past is GeoSeed. They carry both Tropical and Oscar seed. They sell mainly to growers but will sell to home gardeners. The size of the seed packet is much larger than retail stores but their shipping/handling is a min of $5.00, which has always covered my shipping costs for my seed orders. If you're looking for large seed packets, I've found them to be a good, reliable source. My thanks for taking the time to read and for helping the Monarch Butterfly. Mary |
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I just planted some A. Curassavica seeds today. I'm not very hopeful that any Monarchs will reach Michigan this year, but I'll be ready if they do. I already had A. Tuberosa, a. Incarnata, A. Syriaca, and Poke Milkweed, and I've wintersown a few new native species. But, I wanted to have some plants growing in smaller pots to use in my rearing tent that I'll try to keep protected from OE infestation. Hope everyone has a successful year! Martha |
I got 20 healthy seedlings, so far. I transplanted them into individual pots today. I doubt I'll need that many plants, so maybe I can share if anyone near me gets Monarch eggs or cats. I think that may be overly optimistic this year. Martha |
Note of caution: For those growing A. curassivica in areas where it is perennial, it is advisable to cut it down to the ground in the fall in order to eliminate OE spores residing and overwintering on the plants, and to discourage Monarch butterfly adults from lingering. Does anyone know if A. physocarpus can be pruned to the ground also? |
- Posted by wifey2mikey 7a Tulsa, OK (My Page) on Sat, May 3, 14 at 20:55
Hi Mary - popping over here from the Butterfly Gardening page. I am happy to report that I have planted and have seedlings for curassavica and physocarpa! My incarnata and tuberosa are up and doing well, and I have Sand Vine or Blue Vine coming up everywhere. I also have some new Narrow Leaf Milkweed plants that are decent sized AND if that wasn't enough, I ordered some Sullivant's Milkweed that should arrive this next week. Hopefully doing my part to help the Monarchs! ~Laura |
My milkweed collection is also growing by leaps and bounds. My one container of currisavica has turned into at least 40 seedlings. I have six large containers of incarnata seedlings, three containers with Whorled Milkweed just starting to sprout (I can't remember the Latin for the moment), and three large containers of tons of syriaca sprouting. My goal is to grow mostly incarnata in order to collect seeds and distribute them where needed. Incarnata is such a well-behaved milkweed and very attractive to Monarchs for both nectar and egg-laying. It seems like a good choice for introducing into more traditional gardens. So, I'm off to a great start and should have plenty of seed to share in future years. Martha |
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In "Band of Sisters" the problems seem so large and overwhelming. It's clear that many of your characters had strong faith, but what role, if any, did hope play in tackling those problems?�
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Recent Supreme Court rulings highlight the persistent presence of misogyny in the US.
Megan Amundson, executive director of NARAL Pro-Choice Massachusetts, expressed her anger over the Supreme Court's message that "women are second-class citizens, not capable of making our healthcare decisions without the interference of our bosses and complete strangers on the street," and she encouraged the crowd to send a message back.
This was the most striking language in the buffer zone ruling, to me:
petitioners are not protestors; they seek not merely to express their opposition to abortion, but to engage in personal, caring, consensual conversations with women about various alternatives.
Unbidden strangers given the rights of "counselor." Since when is anyone who wants to talk to me considered my counselor? Why is the word "consensual" in that sentence? Patients haven't consented to this counseling. They are hounded by it. This kind of distortion of someone's behavior and giving it a title which then affords them rights, when they are really just harassing people would never happen if the recipients of said counseling were white males. Where is the autonomy of the woman in this interaction? This is codified misogyny.
In a country which claims to be "democratic" and to believe in "liberty", how is it that autonomy is not fully respected for all people?
It would seem that something overrides our belief in the respect of the individual which should be inherent to a democracy and our commitment to privacy when it comes to personal liberty. Could that be capitalism?
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For understanding my communications, please know that I distinguish sexism from misogyny, just as I distinguish bigotry from racism. Sexism and bigotry are personal expressions of seeing a demographic group as somehow inferior to oneself. Misogyny and racism are larger cultural systems and atmospheres which serve to keep certain demographics oppressed for the benefit of other demographics. I give an example at the end of the diary.I want us to explore not only what it is we experience as the actuated reality of a country which worships the concept of capitalism, but what it is we would want in the country of our dreams. Toward that end, I have a question at the end of the diary which I hope sparks some fun and creative conversation. What lies between here and there is simply leading to that.
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So, we in the US claim to believe in democracy and personal liberty, yet when we look at our behaviors both as a nation and culture, we see those principles betrayed quite often. I'd like us to think of the country as an organism. A living, breathing entity with a complex set of biological systems. Our principles or values are the heart – the source of our vision and mission, our laws are the brain – directing how we carry out the mission, our populace is the gut – it's responses and reactions reveal the harmony or disharmony between the heart and the brain. The political and economic systems are the arms and legs with which we walk through the mission and feed the internal systems.
If there is discord and suffering, let's see it as an illness. Something in the system isn't serving all the parts of the system. Things are not stable. It won't be a perfect metaphor, but it can help us to think about how things can move in an unhealthy direction without anyone consciously steering it there.
This is an easy metaphor for me, as I live with a chronic illness. I know many people who do. Often, there were signs of things going wrong earlier than we acknowledged. For me, it was persistent exhaustion. I would complain about how no amount of sleep rejuvenated me. People around me would say that I was stressed and not handling it well. I believed that and kept pushing myself. Once more serious symptoms such as cognitive decline, temporary loss of vision, debilitating pain and seizures presented themselves I finally went to the doctor. Still, it took two more years to get a diagnosis. Why?
It took that long because I had contracted the disease long before and it didn't look as expected, now. I had an "advanced" version. Something far worse than the original disease. We still had to address the disease, but that would not fix everything. The disease is now pernicious and will return if I'm not vigilant about it. Worse, it had ravaged my body so badly that my systems got messed up and couldn't recognize healthy cells from destructive ones. My body now attacks itself. I must consciously tend to myself all the time, if I am to have any quality of life. The minute I am lax about it, I lose more functionality.
You see where I'm going here? A society can contract a disease and not realize it. It can start to show a symptom and be in denial about having the symptom and then about recognizing where the symptom comes from. It can live with the disease for so long that it end up not being able to tell the difference between healthy cells and destructive ones. It can begin to perpetuate the symptoms of the disease all on it's own. One has to work hard to consciously recognize the symptoms and address both the disease and the resulting disorders.
If you build a democracy based on the tenets of individual liberty and equality, how can you have slavery and misogyny and genocide? Those are symptoms of an infection. Likely, something you are not conscious of.
In a healthy organism, the heart and brain and gut and arms and legs are all working together in harmony doing the right thing to keep things running smoothly. If they are fighting with one another, or one of the systems is suppressed, something is wrong.
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Leaving chained dogs to starve to death isn't bad enough, now someone in Jasper County has shot a puppy.
We received a call about 11 last night from a Bluffton vet tech asking us to rescue a puppy reported to be screaming and writhing in pain in Hardeeville. (Wiley your Christmas present is I didn't call you!)
Yellow Jacket and I found the puppy still suffering so badly any movement was agony. The neighbors thought he had been hit by a car. The owner had refused to take him to a vet. YJ moved him as gently as he could into our truck and we took him back to Maranatha Farm.
This morning I took the puppy to Dr Parker's office and an hour later the vet tech called me with the horrifying news: the puppy has a bullet lodged in his spine.
Dr Dana is going to attempt to remove it. Please help me pray for the success of this surgery. I'll keep you posted. Pray for whoever did it too - they're going to need it.
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These cold temps hurt man and beast alike. It's very hard to sleep at night when you are both cold and hungry. Facing a new day and trying to be productive after shivering all night with a gnawing belly, well it saps the spirit.
While one person can't change the world there are small things we can do if we don 't want to have to look away from a laborer's chapped red hands or a dog's pleading look:
Home Depot and WalMart both have very inexpensive heavy cotton knit gloves. The last ones I bought at Home Depot were less than $2 a pair.
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A new weheelchair has been completed for a Husky in Atlanta. Is anybody driving to Atlanta in the next week or so, willing to take it along? Please give me a call if you are willing to help. The wheelchair will take about as much room as one person in a car but it is very lightweight.
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The release of David Tant will be a sad day for children and animals.
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Speaking of Pit Bulls (one of the top blog subjects in 2005) they are darn hard to find homes for!
HSUS statistics claim that nationwide only one in 600 pit bulls rescued ever finds a home.
Maranatha Farm is currently home to no less than 8 pit bulls and 5 suckling puppies. These dogs are smart, beautiful, easy to train and care for, devoted companions. They just for the most part can't be trusted with other animals is all.
Training and careful attention to handling make it possible for some pit bull fanciers to enjoy owning more than one dog.
By: KarenWilkins on July 21, 2006 - 9:46pm - Add new comment
"Jackie" is a small kitten we just received from the gas chamber in Hinesville, GA. She had been badly hurt when she was found in a trash can in a city park.
By: KarenWilkins on December 3, 2008 - 9:56pm - Add new comment
"Buckshot" loves going for a run at Bluffton's Oscar Frazier Park
He doesn't understand why people leave litter in such a lovely place.
Karen Wilkins, Maranatha Farm Website: http://www.maranathafarm.org (Thanks to Lighthouse Design Group) (843) 816-6676 fax 726-6606
By: KarenWilkins on November 20, 2007 - 5:15am - Add new comment
There's a movement afoot in Beaufort County to stop people from chaining their dogs. I support the idea, but increasingly I am hearing of another practice which may be even worse. That is excessive use of a crate.
Crates can be very helpful in training young puppies to control their body functions. They have a natural aversion to standing in their own waste, so they learn to "hold it" until taken outdoors.
Unfortunately what is happening in some households is puppies and dogs are being kept in crates for periods of 8 to 10 hours. This is happening in upper and middle class subdivisions where fenced yards are restricted, or condos where no private yard is provided.
By: KarenWilkins on June 24, 2008 - 9:08am - Add new comment
"Noah" has a wonderful home waiting for him in New York. He's been in Animal Control for a long time with an injured leg. Volunteers found him an adopter in New York who has arranged for the surgery he needs, but every transport to New York has fallen through due to high fuel prices!
"Noah" clings to hope someone will come for him.
If anybody can give "Noah" a ride to New York anytime within the next couple of weeks, please call me on 816-6676. Maranatha Farm will chip in $50 to help with the gas, we'll ask others to help as well, and we will spring him from jail immediately.
Chances are "Noah" will be euthanized before this weekend unless we go get him. He's not the only one, but we just hate to see him never make it to his new home.


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i waited 14 months to go hunt elk,whitetail,mule deer,and black bear with saw tooth out fitters in cranbrook ,b.c i was a ring in on the hunt as three mates were going over there but one died in an accident and one of the remaining two was a mate of a mate and turned up at the boat one day to see if i was interested , which i jumped at (who wouldnt )to fill the gap . and so started emails and checking up on theyre website . we left oz on the 14th sept and done the tourist thing for 5 days stopping where ever sounded good ,which was great as me and my mate paul met heaps of great people every where we went them canadians are a gerat bunch , the other fella matt left 10 days before us to go to adams lake in northern b.c to hunt mountain caribou and wolf which he tagged out by the fourth day and stayed the rest of the time taking some photos and stocking theyre firewood supply and generally having a great time with his new friends , which he cannot fault the whole outfit (i cant remember the outfits name )any way he flew into cranbrook on the 18th and was supposed to be met by ryan berard the outfitter but ryan was out at the camp which he didnt say but we now think he was making ammends for two of his guides .]luckily we were there in cranbrook and had accomadation on the 19th ryan got in touch with matt good and early and appolagized and made plans to pick us up and get us in the bush . when we got to camp that arvo we were met by garth the cook and i guess camp head honcho who made us welcome and helped to get us settled in and never once stopped whinging about two of the guides mine and pauls as it turned out . he told ryan that after the last hunters left the guides just up and bailed and said they would be here on the 20th to start our hunt and he said that they left a chainsaw and a heap of sadle packs half way along a trail to a place called barabou. ryan asked if we were keen to go for a hike and help retrieve his gear off we went it was about 3km to the stuff which was scatered alongthe trail for maybe 500 metres which started us asking why they left it and he said harley had a falling out with his two hunters and they called the hunt off early and some how the horses bolted and the gear was left strewn along the trail . we looked at each other and were starting to see that all was not as it seems anyways we gathered the gear and ryan asked if we wanted to go and check that his camp was in good order as we were about half way to it so we strolled off and it was a good looking bit of a camp . we were expecting cool to cold weather and he told us to gear up for up to -6c at nights but it was unseasonally warm and up around 28c in the day . we asked if it will affect the rut as at home the fallow deer wont always croak when rutting if its to warm ,it sounds like the elk are a bit the same. we end up getting back to base camp and garth said the guides returned and they all had a barney and the two guides took off . at three oclock in the morning they staggered in to the cabbin and literally fell over each other on theyre way to bed . at 0500 we were up and getting ready to hunt ,had breaky and expected to be out of there way before daylight . didnt happen these two clowns wouldnt get up until 0900 and said that we wouldnt be hunting today until later in the arvo . at ten am ryan was back at camp to take matt to meet his guide at another spot and asked why we wernt hunting (paul and myself )so i said im keen its just that your guides are to hung over and couldnt get out of bed , so he took them outside and set them strasight for the first time on our hunt. our first days hunting consisted of driving from slide to slide glassing and harley would give the odd bugle just like the other 25 resident hunters were doing that we seen that day . i asked if we were going up the slides to see whats around and he goes not until we see some elk . im thinking we were told we would be out there stalking from before sun up and camping out most nights and when asked this harley says no way were not doing that. that was our first heated talk back at camp and pauls looking like hes not happy either . the two guides are looking like theyve been through the wringer and are sucking cans again . i asked paul what his hunt was like for the day and he said they had done the same thing we did .we decided to let it slide and see what tommorow brings . at 0500 we are up and getting ready to go , when garth serves breaky ,still no guides . so l go up to loft and ask what goin on with you two ,my guide harley says we will get up at around 8 and have breaky then go for a stalk if you want . bullshit get up we are going now . 20 minutes later this HARLEY LEADER and pauls guide are sitting at the table sulking like a couple of kids when we decide to tell these clowns what we signed up for and let them know what we want ,l to which this harley claims no one hunts like that in b.c and we will learn . i asked garth if there were any other guides that work for ryan so we could swap,and he said that he didnt think so .GREAT pauly wanted to give it up there and then as the writing was on the wall . his guides name was SEBASTIEN CROTEAU and seemed to have alot of local knowledge but pauly reckons he was lazy and wouldnt get out of the car and just wasnt into it . paulys exact words were it seems like he didnt want to be there . once old garth said that ryan would be here soon they got moving and we were gone .(OLD GARTH GAVE US A WINK) once in the ute harley asked what tags i had obtained which i told him, thinking he should have known that and at least asked to see them before we hunted.once he found out i had tags for elk ,white tail,muley ,wolf and black bear he asked why i got so many as calmly as i could i explained that was what i wanted to hunt and that he has already wasted one and half days on me and we need to get serious. then he all of a sudden remembered that he had to show friend where he could camp in his new trailer , i thought what the hell but he explained that we could stalk from where he was to meet this bloke .when we got to the spot he claimed we were right on time and that this bloke would be here any minute and started telling me of all these wonderfull hunts he had and these awsome trophies he had got his hunters ,fair dinkum this guy has seen it all . after about an hour of this crap his mate still hadnt shown up and old"done it" as i called him by this stage suggested it was nap time so i said im goin for hunt and will be back soon that was maybe 1100at 1430ish i returned to the ute to find harley snoring beside the ute and stared glassing the other side of a huge slide . after half an hour of listening to harley snore i woke him up to see if his friend had been ,which he hadnt so i suggested we go hunting . once harley had eaten some lunch and we were just heading off sebbastien and pauly came up the road and the two guides chatted for another hour . i ended up telling harley lets go . we drove off back down the mountain with absolutely no plan of attack ,all harley kept saying was we should be following sebbastien bacause he knows where the elk are , the whole hunt this harley wanted to be with sebbastien and every plan he came up ,had to be ran by sebbastien . he couldnt get a game plan happening and stick to it ,it was becomming apparent that we werent going to do anything with out sebbestien . with in a short time i was glassing as we idled down the dirt road at harleys driving speed which rarley exceeded 35kms an hour ,i spotted a big black bear about 1100 metres up a hill and harley stopped the ute and said yeah his a good one .you could see a track not far under the briun and i thought we would drive up there and have a go at him . but no harley didnt want to drive up there he claimed the track was to rough and he would damage his ute,fair enough lets leg it up there and get him.no im not going to do that was his response and curled up and went to sleep claiming that the bear would come back down this evening .so im gearing up to do this myself when" done it" says i cant let you do that it could be dangerous and i will get in trouble if you got hurt statement and went to sleep . now im not an agressive person but im thinking that im gunna run a knuckle over this idiot real soon . an hour later sebbastien and paul come back down the road and harley springs up and tells sebbo that his found me a black bear ,just a ways up there and piont about 150 metrs away from where it crossed the road ,sebbastien just looks at him dumbfounded and says why arent you up there getting him harley that road is as good as this one ,theres nothing wrong with the road .so i said to him will you take me up there sebbo and you can have his tip which he was good with but harley started whinging that i was his hunter and that i cant hunt with anyone else.after another guides only talk they decided that i cant hunt with sebbo.and they left but you could tell that even sebbo wasnt happy with harleys preformance and pauly told me later that himself . so we are waiting there until about 3/4 of an hour before dark when dickhead decides we should go glass for elk twenty minutes down the road . the bear did come out and sebbo said it was around 61/2 footer and we were 20 minutes down the road . so this is how i spent the first two days of a 9 grand hunt . when we got back to camp the two guides and the cook were at each others throats again within minutes of seeing one and other and harley started talking shit about how he got me on to a black bear today ,which was the end of me and i lost my shit for little while . and told garth that i want to talk to ryan before i knock the last three teeth out of harleys mouth . pauly just wanted to get out of this fiasco and get our money back , which when i look back it wouldve been the smart play . but ive tied the boat up and there was lots of jobs goin on as the engine room was getting a refit and i wanted to hunt so i talked paul into staying but let it known to garth that i wanted ryan to fix this up as it was known we are walk and stalkers not diesel stalkers on the morning of day three old harley was actually up at breaky time and we were hiking back into barabou before the sun was up ,when we got to the campsite we stopped and unpacked and boiled the billy and had a cuppa, for the first time this hunt im actually thinking this may turn out alright . then harley asked if i was up to another hike into the slides which he didnt have to ask twice and led the way we were hiking and glassing slides every 1/2mile or so until 1130 when harley suggested we stop for a break for lunch .3minute later hes snoring like baby .at 1300 i woke him up to get going again and he started heading back to camp.wrong lets keep going this way mate ,he starts whinning that it gets real ruff if we keep going that way ,goodo then thats where the elk should be . everywhere we go he just keeps going on about it will be to hard to get the meat out of or down from there . i keep explaining that us three have all ready worked out that as soon as one of us take an animal we will work together to get it off the slopes. but this guy is to bloody lazy to want to do anything that may be hard. so under sufferance he followed me into this ruff ground which was a well defined track that had been cut open with chainsaws where someone had done a great job coz you could bring pack horses in if you had to .we end up going through another 4or 5 slides when we come to another campsite ,this is where we should of set up camp i told him but he just kept whinging and moaning about how far it was back to camp .so i suggested we hunt here and walk back in the dark shut down for the night and shift here in the morning but he wasnt having any of that because there was no way of getting the big tent here . this was how it was the whole hunt everything was either to hard or to far and way to much effort . anyway come 19 00 and he said we will have to head back to the camp now as it would be dark soon ,what are the elk not going to be more active at sunset im thinking .but i went with him thinking we would be back in here tomorrow morning .wrong when we arrive back at camp im thinking a quick feed and shut down time so we can move camp in the a.m not to be he starts packing up to go back to main cabin .what for i still dont know but told him i want go camp in the other camp tommorow and check out that way as we had one bull answer us late arvo and it was the only place where the wallows were active . so like a couple of clowns we walk out of there in the dark .it was good to have streched our legs for the first time we got back to the cabbin at 2330 and woke every one up for no reason while harley told sebbastien and garth and paul how far we hiked and done the hard yards .and that not to have breaky until about 8 .wrong i said that we will be going back in there for a couple of days and 0500 would be great thanks garth. and harley said that we wont be doing that we are gunna check another place out in the morning . day four and what do you think we done today ,drove to all the slides we done the first day and that was enough for me i told him to just drive me anywhere and i will hunt by my self for rest of the hunt . so each evening i would get out a toppo map that was in the cabbin and get a plan happening for the next day on day five while hiking along i came across a big ass grizzly bear and got some great photos .and tracked out some elk and wore my self right out ,i worked out there are two directions in b.c up and down but this is what i was here for . on day six i saw another grizz this one stood maybe 9 foot and was eating berries like they were tax deductable so i got another photo oppotunity ,and was learning the the bloody squirrels were alot like our kookaburras and alerted everthing in earshot that all is not right . day seven harley decided that he should come with me today as i was going to a place called bitch which followed the river accross from the cabbin into a big canyon system .which of course harley knew this place lik the back of his hand and told me theres no piont wasting the batteries on that there gps of yours .wrong we hiked for a couple of hours stopping to glass every slide for a good while it was like hunting with someone else today harley was actually into it and seemed like he wanted to be there the track was broken and hard to define as there was lots of trees down and i kept thinking i should be tracking us in .but we were following the river and worse case we get back by that means at lunch we ran out of trail and i asked harley what was up ahead he said that he didnt know (which was afirst)and that we were the first blokes to come this far since he had been with ryan .so we made fire and cooked some dehydrated meals and glassed for a while and he suggested that we keep on blazing a trail for a while. this is more like it so we went maybe another mile and came to another slide which had heaps of feed down low and good regowth up above and i could see harley was liking this place so we sat and glassed for an hour or more . of course he fell asleep again and i just let him go in fact im pretty sure i dropped off for a while to. i was preying that we would put something up here ,as the berries were everywhere i thought maybe another bear or a muley would show up but not to be harley said that we have to leave here pretty early as we needed daylight to see our way out of here .wish i had of tracked us in . we got back to the cabbin just after dark as we lost the track several times. that night i said to my self ,self track your self in everytime. day 8 we were going somewhwere else and staying out over night which pauly laughed about that and told garth we would see tonight .the plan was to hunt this new area which was right on the edge of town at the city limits of so we are up in the morning and first go back to where i seen the big black bear and watch harley sleep again ,so im off down the track that he claimed was to rough for him to take his ute down more B/S and im working my way up the side of the mountain along this track which was one the best dirt tracks wed been down and i seen three mule deer does but no stag alittle further up i watched some cyotes chasing bugs and each other but no bears so i walked around the top for awhile and there was sign everywhere . about mid morning i walked back down to the main track and saw harley s feet poking out the window ,so i went back for another walk but turned off at the bottom to the right and followed it for a couple of mile into some good looking country once again there was elk track and bear scat all over the place and water everywhere that was one thing i noticed about this buaetiful country was the water evrywhere you go. at home we take our water with us religously but here every100 metres or so there water running out of nowhere .i walked around for a couple of hours and it was like every other day since we had been in b.c around 26 to 29 degrees c.as i was ambling back to see if know it was awake yet along came pauly and sebbastien on the quads and said harley was stressing out that he didnt know where i was and that he was sick of me taking off all the time and that i shouldnt be carrying a gun with out him being there .so l asked what the time was and pauly said it was 1400 ,which i had to laugh at because i had been hunting today since around 0630 while he slept .sebo couldnt beleave that i was doing this and had been for most of the time .and i just told sabo stuff him it will do him good to worry a bit ,it might make a guide out of him ,which cracked all three of us up and he had only had 6 or so hours sleep today so there was no need to hurry. they offered me a lift up to harley but l said id walk so they took off up the side i had been up this morning .when i got back to ole harley he was beside himself carrying on like a pork chop saying thing s like how much trouble he could get in over this as there was plenty of resident hunter around which i already knew cos id proberly spoken to a dozen of them over the last few days and every one of couldnt believe that he would be so slack . mate i told them if i hunted with that idiot i wouldnt see bugger all .and that i was only there until the 30th of sept and if they were gunna report him would they be so kind as to wait until after that .all agreed no worries .as he was squarking like a merry magpie i looked over his shoulder and bugger me dead there was a black bear he was only little but as i walked around harley i quietly said shutup theres one right there, and through the300rum up and watched him for a whille before deciding he was to small . harleys is in my ear to pound him as he would make a good rug which he may have ,but i was here for mature animals as i wanted to have full body mount of a black bear done .so i put the gun away and grabbed the camera . old harley was still whinging about how long i was gone and i said to him that he was the only reason that i was hunting by myself and that he was welcome to come any time he wanted .so stop whinning . after that he was alright . iknow im making him look bad and canning him alot but mate i could tell some other things that went on with this joker and the crap that poured out of his mouth was a steady stream just like the endless water that comes out of any mountain in b.c. all in all and this is what i told ryan berard thes two fellas are quite good blokes but they are not guides a** ***es and i truley beleave that if matt ,paul and myself had come over hunting by our selves and just back pack hunted for ten days by our selves we would have done better . on the same token i should add that matts guide which i never met until the eighth night was without a doubt a guides ,guide and matt speaks so highly of him you would think he had a halo over his head his name is PERCY WILLAMSON . and matt says this bloke did everything he could to get matt an elk they were walking in in the dark and hunting until well after last light . i think ive read a couple of articles he has written in some magazines . and thats where this place is we were going to camp on the eighth night was where they had been hunting all hunt so we head in there and arrive at 1730 and throw our gear down and make an aussie camp set up some tarps above and below our sleeping bags ,of course sabo and pauly are with us .and then go and have an evening hunt me and pauly went different directions from the top and sebo and harley sat in there utes , which i should add that sebo was not good with and said so but harley said not worry no one was around pauly got onto about 30 elk cows and was watching a 4x5 bull keeping his harem together while i was following a decent mule deer stag he had the biggest body out of all the muleys i had seen so far but i couldnt get a look at his head gear and soon took off never to be seen again as it was getting dark i could hear some elk cows sqeeking and a bull grunting i guess as it wasnt any bugle .and walking back up to where we were camping who should i met but matt and percy which as soon as i met i liked straght up .at camp we started sucking the sides in on alot of beer cans and having heaps of laughs and matt took me aside and appollagized for the way mine and paulys hunt was going but it wasnt his fault i said these other two guides were hopeless nothings gunna change that after lots of beer we went into town to rustle up some grub and i ended getting us all a huge rib eye each and some salads and two more slabs of stubbies we went and had a real shower and went back to the site and kicked it up for a few hours . when i woke just before sparra fart roused everyone and went for a hunt .this morning i had to stay with harley as there was many hunters in this area but after an hour of sitting there glassing some ski resort that we werent allowed to hunt anyway i said take me for a stalk hareley but he was happy to stay there as we were feeling pretty seedy ,o.k see ya off i went straight down and straight up seen 7cows and a 4x4 that had taken a real beating and was limping around .then i heard some more taking off under neath me and headed up towards another hunter i cuold see way up to my left which turned out to be matt and percy then from way down to the right boom some one had taken a shot i was hopimg it was paul and sebo but it wasnt it was a resident and harley claimed that it happened just behind where he was parked but you know . later that morning while he was going to have a nap i talked him into taking me down to a pumping station for water to kimberley so i could hunt in there hopefully for a muley or bear as it was close to farmland a couple of hours later i was sitting in a great little spot glassing off a track when i heard a click then not far away a snap and then i caught movement of a muley hind and young one so thinking a photo oppotunity was happpening i got the camera out and above me a bloody squirrel started chattering and the doe went into alert mode for a long minute then settled down and begun to browse then i notice another deer comming in from the left and it was a decent stag (by my standard as it was going to be my first mule deer stag and i could see he had 4 on either side ) so i picked up the 300 and lined him up but could only see his head and didnt want to wreck his cape, so im waiting for him to show himself and at that time the squirrel lets out this ungodly scretch and five or six deer hit the bolt making these blowing sounds for a long way after they departed i nearly shot the bloody squirrel there on the spot so i went back to wake harley up but he was already up as percy and matt cam,e past and percy must of giving him a serve coz harley told me to tell him that he put me in some spot to wait for an elk . but later matt said that they knew he was dribbling some more crap and that paul and sebastien had told percy what was going on so we headed back to the cabbin along the way harley actually pulled up and said ive always wanted to have a look in here if your keen ?.stupid question he also said he didnt know what it was like in there and never knew what to expect . that just made me keener so off we went he said dont you get hang over or something ,coz ive been hunting all day ,which i had to laugh at because i had felt lousy all day and in fact it was a head ache that woke me up before dawn as we settled in to stalk mode harley spotted a whitetail doe and then further along the flats we heard some thing coming towards us and harley whispered it might be a bear and to get ready but it was a young moose cow and she didnt mind getting her photo taken after that we never saw nothing else but when we got to the river we seen some good sized bull trout maybe 4 kgs each then went back to the cabbin last day we started off glassing slides then went to look for the big bear from earlier and then grabbed some rods and went back and caught 3 bullies each hoppin g to jump a white tail stag but no good . harley then asked what i wanted to do as we had 6 hours of day light left and as we gat back to the road sabo pauly and matt came along in sabos ute . and said thats it we are going to town and getting on it .... and get on it we did
shit sorry to hear that. that was a total nightmare. been waiting for your report as you had mentioned quite a few times you were going on this hunt. will they give you any sort of a refund? i am surprised you managed to restrain yourself, i would have had a total sense of humour failure..
Sorry to hear, I do hear some bad hunting reports from BC and I think it has mainly to do with the outfitters and guides, because there is plenty of game. I think some outfitters stretch the truth on the possibilities of filling tags. Some areas are a LOT BETTER than others. Terrible hunt, hard to read the report, I was so frustrated with your guide!!!
Bluey, My sincere regrets for this nightmare. Your ability to make the best of it is amazing. SO THEY SELL YOU THIS PICTURE AND YOU ARE DRIVEN YOU AROUND IN A TRUCK BY A LAZY DRUNK! That is the most pathetic unprofessional crap. All non-residents are required to be accompanied by a licenced guide while hunting big game, .... Harley needs his license suspended. Sadly, I can not find them as members of the guides association. GOABC Outfitter and Hunting Directory | Find Your Next Brtish Columba Hunting Adventure ps. I'd have popped the squirrel. The little beggars are the alarm system in the Boreal Forest.
thanks fellas when i think about it we should ve pulled the pin after the second day ,but we wanted to make the most of a bad situation . and the fact i wanted to take an animal to show harley that stalking was the way to go when the rut doesnt go as planned there was plenty of game no worries about that i could have written about heaps more animals that i got in on but none were trophy quality either immature or girls i was hoping someone knew of harley and actually had had a good hunt with him , he claims to be a master taxidermist and ive been told that he does have a studio in calgrary in alberta . i also knew i wasnt aloud to hunt without a guide but paying 900 usd a day to watch your guide sleep wasnt going to happen . and the outfitter did come up there and give old harley several ear bashings and has since offered us half priced hunts if we return for another go and even offered to guide us himself . pauls wife is solicitor and is in the process of trying to get us some coin back but i cant see it working . as for the paitence thing my wife says that ive got less paitents than a bad doctor ...
You need to familiarize yourself with the period and enter keys. Man that report was tough to read. :knockedout: My heart goes out to you. I got suckered on a Manitoba bear hunt and it still sticks in my throat. Funny thing is, the following year their brochure said that they had 100 percent success, with the exception of a bowhunter who was holding out for a "monster". I would have shot Boo Boo if he had made an appearance. There is no way in hell I would put another nickle at risk hunting with that outfit. The outfitter knew that Harley was a worthless piece of shit, yet he kept sending you out in the woods with him? Total lack of class. What are stubbies? Ribs?
beers that come in little bottles sorry about the way that it was typed 1 im on a fishing boat in the middle of bass strait in a little weather 2 im not real good at this typing thing yet , even though im practicing like mad since i joined this forum sorry about that mate
bluey dont worry, your typing is as good as my one finger effort so it must be perfect.:laughing::beer: p.s. whats a bloody period key??:headscratch:
Not your fault. Make the most of a bad situation, you certainly did. 900 a day, I'd have been out hunting myself. Stalking was the only way to go at 28C. A conversation with the Environment Department in BC about this outfits license might get some action. I hope the outfitter steps up and provides the hunt you already paid for the first time! Heres hoping for you. Never heard of this twit. Harley Leader, Wildlife Art Taxidermy Studio Master Taxidermist??? Perhaps during a intoxicant induced dream.
I KNOW WHAT YOU MEAN! but Black bears don't eat shit they eat berries, but the first time he went to sleep in the middle of my hunt he would have looked aweful funny with that big stick up his A$$.
Thanks for the clarification on the stubbies. No worries on the typing. I was just bustin' your balls.
Hi Bluey. Makes me sick to read your story. A little effort would of gone a long ways... That kind of $$ and still resident hunters there. They should of had you packed back in away from almost everyone but those in your camp. Sorry to hear about it. Bruce
You know the old saying you can't go to africa hunting once. This is very true. I am an american and the hunts in america suck compared to africa. I have found that in america it is better to just hunt for meat and if you get a representative trophy more power to you. I just drive out west and hunt the weather but you have to have alot of time.
gday iwaters i havnt given up on the idea of hunting in canada or the usa yet as theres some animals there i want to match wits with (lots of em ).i truly think with a guide that wanted to hunt this trip wouldve ended on a happier note . since i come home ive been pionted in different directions .and are starting to get together some plans for 2014 or 15.i wouldnt mind planning the next trip around some of these shows every one on here is getting excited about i also dont entirely blame the outfitter for my bummed out hunt either


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We've just gotten a quote for our kitchen granite. There are two options listed, one is for 3 cm slabs, the other is for 2 cm slabs plus "Laminated Edge for 2 cm Material - Quarter Round - P (5/16'' radius top edge & 1/8'' bevel bottom edge)"
Can anyone help me interpret this? The 3 cm slab quote is about 25% more than the 2 cm plus laminated edge quote. I know I've read that 3 cm is more desirable, but I don't really know why. Is it worth the extra cost? What are the benefits? |
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The 3 cm slab won't require putting a layer of plywood underneath it and won't require a laminated edge to cover up the plywood - generally 3 cm is available on the east coast and 2 cm on the west coast but it sounds like you have the option for either. Does their price include the plywood or do you have to get your GC to do that? That will add to the price. I don't know about the difference in price - I have 3 cm granite on my counter - the place where I got it said they could do a 2 cm backsplash from the same granite for me - they said the price per sq. ft. would be the same. I ended up going with granite tiles instead. Pricing obvious varies from place to place. |
- Posted by snowyshasta (My Page) on Thu, Apr 3, 08 at 20:00
Interesting, thanks. We're on the West Coast (Portland) but both are available, although from different granite yards. I believe the 2 cm quote includes plywood but not positive. Anyone have pictures or experience with how the laminated edge looks to cover the plywood? Is it something we'd notice? Or is the 3 cm going to be stronger, or plywood a downside for other reasons? |
I have 3cm and my sister in Indiana has 2cm (laminated). I really like hers better in some ways....it's thicker and chunkier and looks more substantial. Her seams are barely noticeable. She never even noticed until I pointed it out to her. I'm her KD sister, of course! Kompy |
- Posted by cloud_swift (My Page) on Thu, Apr 3, 08 at 21:44
I think both are fine and in use there isn't any significant difference. BTW, two friends of mine got 2 cm without the laminated edge - the edge is 2 cm thick instead of 4 and I like the lighter look. Many consider that to be a more contemporary/modern look. My DH had a strong preference for the laminated edge and I had only a mild preference for the thinner look so we have the lamination. Something I like about having gone with the 2 cm is that the plywood underlay continues under the eating overhang on our island (like in the picture pbrisjar posted) with metal bars inset into the plywood so we can have an overhang with no corbels or legs to support it. There is just the hidden support from the plywood and metal bars. If you can find slabs you like in either, go with the 2 cm and save the 25% unless the seam at the lamination is going to bother you. If the granite you prefer is only in one of the thicknesses (ore you prefer the slabs in one of the thicknesses) and the price works for you, then go with the slabs you prefer. |
- Posted by snowyshasta (My Page) on Fri, Apr 4, 08 at 1:21
You are making this difficult :-) We will have new cabinets, so that would maybe say 3 cm. And we could afford it, I'd love to spend less but the difference could be handled. But if I'm not going to notice it, then maybe the 2 cm would be fine. I would definitely want the lamination, I'm not into contemporary. I guess it's a question of whether or not I'd notice the seams. Probably not, but then again you never know what you'll notice. Maybe the right answer is to see the available slabs at each yard and decide which we like better. Although we have a big kitchen space and will need 5 slabs, so we probably won't find that many perfect ones, anyway, at either place. |
A lot depends on the granite and the fabricator's skill. Using a 2 cm granite with a lot of movement, it will be difficult for the fabricator to seam the edge and have it not be noticeable. |
We had 2 cm in a past home without a laminated edge and I felt it was too thin. We now have 3 cm and I am very happy with it. I have no experience with 2 cm laminated edge -but my only question would be can the laminate peel and chip over time? I had laminate in this house before we replaced with our current granite and one of the things I hated was that the corners were starting to chip and peel and the house is only 5 years old. |
- Posted by cloud_swift (My Page) on Fri, Apr 4, 08 at 9:24
cpang, laminate in this case doesn't mean a plastic laminate. What we are talking about is a strip of granite epoxied to the edge of the counter so that the edge is double the thickness of the granite as in pbrisjar's pictures above. snowyshasta, our slabs were in a set of about 10 to 12 that were book matched (cut from the same block of rock and polished on alternating sides) - each of the slabs looks pretty similar to the others except that alternating slabs are mirror image. If you find one you like, you will often find 5 that you like if you are lucky enough to find the set before a lot of other people have bought a few each. |
- Posted by don_chuwish (My Page) on Fri, Apr 4, 08 at 10:02
Using an ogee detail on the double layer edge can hide the seam nicely because it gets lost in the shadow lines. But as mentioned, if the granite has a non-uniform pattern you'll notice it anyway. When we were talking to granite shops I liked the 3cm better partly because you get the same edge exposure at the sink cutout, and mainly because the guy suggesting 2cm was just frighteningly stupid. I do like 2cm better for backsplash tho, 3cm seems a bit chunky. - Don |
- Posted by cloud_swift (My Page) on Fri, Apr 4, 08 at 11:16
I'd go w/ a 3 cm...to me it has more of a stone look than a 2. We did that in the master bath and plan to continue it through the house. |
- Posted by snowyshasta (My Page) on Fri, Apr 4, 08 at 20:20
Thanks for the pictures. I am in a bit of a quandary, but then just now our contractor sent us the bid they got from another granite company. This one only has 2 cm available, but it's much cheaper! The original quote was $9700 for installation/templating, plus either $15,200 (total ~$25 k)for the 3 cm slabs or $12,200 (total ~$22k) for the 2 cm slabs plus laminate. So the 3 cm is about 25% more from this company. The new quote is for $14,023 for installation and 2 cm slabs, so $8000 less than the previous 2 cm quote! I'll have to talk to the GC more to be sure we're not missing something, but if it's really the same product and quality of install for that much less, the 2 cm seems worth it. Our granite (Blue Eyes) doesn't have that much movement in it, so I don't think matching the laminate strip would be a huge issue. We've also gotten quotes for granite for the master bath (Costa Esmerelda), but that one is apparently only available in the 2 cm version. Again this second place is significantly less expensive, though. |
- Posted by snowyshasta (My Page) on Fri, Apr 4, 08 at 20:24
Oh, I forgot that I also meant to ask - is there any difference in what's possible for the edge with either 2 cm or 3 cm? The quotes are for bullnose, which I think is the simplest/most common. DH likes the idea of something a little different, we'll see. But is there any limitation on what you can do with the laminate 2 cm vs. the 3 cm in terms of edge choices? |
How many sq. ft. of granite are you getting? That's a huge amount! |
- Posted by marlene_2007 (My Page) on Fri, Apr 4, 08 at 21:13
Hi Snowyshasta...OTM in Portland and Pental had the 3m Costa Esmeralda. I have a bid for my counter and full backsplash with ogee edge for approximately $15,000. I've less than 100 sq.feet. I don't have my paperwork in front of me, but I think there is an option for many other edges. At my last home, I used 2 cm and my fabricators did a beautiful job...so I think you will be happy with either. |
WOW!, I don't feel so bad now. I got 2 cm Crema Bordeaux - 2 slabs plus 1 on hold. Material cost me $2228 and fab + install is $4200 and I'm getting ogee straight edge all around. I'm in San Jose, CA (and I went with the higher bidder - the other two were about $500 - $800 less for fab & install) |
- Posted by marlene_2007 (My Page) on Fri, Apr 4, 08 at 22:24
Hi again...I just looked at my bids and they were less than I thought. For 3cmm Costa with ogee edge the bid was $12,928 ($147.56 per sq. ft) and the 2 cm was $9,490 ($101.97 per sq. foot). The edge details offered for 3 cm are: Price Group A (Bullnose), Price Group B (T-Profile, PE Profile and M Profile), Price Group C (Top Radius and Ogee) and Price Group D (Flat edge and beveled). Hope this helps. |
- Posted by remodel1958 (My Page) on Fri, Apr 4, 08 at 22:33
Hi Suzie - we're in SJ also - we're probably neighbors! We've just begun our search for granite - would you send me an email and recommend a few places we should check out? I'm seam-shy so I'm hoping for a 3cm larger slab - 10 x 6 ft |
- Posted by cloud_swift (My Page) on Fri, Apr 4, 08 at 22:41
Have you chosen a granite type that the kitchen quote was based on? Are the prices for slabs in the first quote an allowance that you might go under or over and the quote is adjusted once you choose your granite? (That is the way our first quote was - the slab price was just an example.) 12,200 for five 2 cm slabs for normal granites is high compared to what prices were when we bought almost 2 years ago (though maybe with the weak dollar and high fuel costs prices have gone up a lot - I haven't been watching). That works out to about 2500 per slab. Our blue ones did cost more than that, but most blues are quite expensive and our slabs were good sized too. A lot of the more usual granites were running 20 to 30 per square foot. If the quote was Laminated Edge for 2 cm Material - Quarter Round - P (5/16'' radius top edge & 1/8'' bevel bottom edge), that sounds like a half bullnose - rounded top and the bottom squared off except for a little bevel - it is a nice edge that keeps drips off the counter farther from the cabinets than the full bullnose. We have the full one and it isn't a big problem because we don't spill that often but when there is a spill, surface tension often leads it around the curve of the bullnose and onto the drawer fronts below. Some companies that provide granite for lower cost, can do so because they use the stone more frugally - sometimes a kitchen can be done with fewer seams and/or better pattern matching but more wasted bits of stone or more seams/less match with the pieces out to use the slabs as efficiently as possible. That is something to discuss with each company. (Note, we did manage a layout with minimum seams and good matches that used the stone quite efficiently so that doesn't always take more stone.) Can you see the work that each of them does? |
- Posted by debbie_2008 (My Page) on Fri, Apr 4, 08 at 23:00
cloud swift..what is quartzite? Is it granite or? |
I saw in a picture of a kitchen that had 2cm granite, but instead of a laminated edge, it had a beautiful piece of dark stained molding running under it which tied in with the knobs and crown molding (the granite was black and the cabinets painted white). Unfortunately, I don't have the mag now or I'd post the pic but I liked it so much, that I think I going to do it just for the look. The kitchen was victorian style, but it could probably work with other styles as well. |
- Posted by snowyshasta (My Page) on Sat, Apr 5, 08 at 0:35
We have somewhere around 140 sf of granite in the kitchen; big kitchen with big island plus a buffet separating kitchen and family room. So the $14k price from the second place is about $100/sf (for both material and install). This is a quote for the exact type of granite we chose - we went to yards to look at various slabs and chose the Blue Eyes as the one we liked the look of best. Then our GC sent out the dimensions of our requirements to the two shops for quotes for our specific requirements. From what I have seen/read the Blue Eyes is on the expensive side, it reads more as a gray with blue highlights than blue, but it does have the blue which I guess adds to the expense. But DH is in love with it... The Costa Esmerelda slabs are cheaper - $8500 installed for 4 slabs. I think we're about 110 sf there (quote includes slab granite for shower walls in addition to counter and tub) so about $77 per square foot. I think what we've chosen is on the more expensive side for granite; funny how it seems to work out that way. Original allowances from our contractor were $10k for kitchen and $4k for bath, so we're over that (bath one was for granite countertop and tile shower, but I'm really leaning towards the granite for both and no grout!) |
to remodell959... I'd love to share what I've learned so far...but I can't find you email address on here anywhere. Suzieca |
- Posted by remodel1958 (My Page) on Sat, Apr 5, 08 at 18:49
Suzieca - Haven't tried it before, but I think I can go to the "My Page" link in your post and find a link to email you from. I'll give it a shot. |
- Posted by remodel1958 (My Page) on Sun, Apr 6, 08 at 21:46
Suzieca had some great advice which I'm sure she wouldn't mind sharing with everyone. Thanks, Suzueca! Some things to think about (when buying granite and choosing a fabricator/installer) **Make sure that you get your fab/installer's price for granite when you buy it - don't pay retail. And make sure you know what they pay to make sure they don't pad your price. |
- Posted by cloud_swift (My Page) on Mon, Apr 7, 08 at 0:25
I don't think that most fabricators recommend keeping movement going in the same direction. What is best may depend on your particular kitchen and stone. Because of the length of the legs of our L, keeping the movement going in the same direction would have required an extra seam - one leg is longer than the length of our granite and the other is longer than the width of our granite. Fortunately, our granite veins aren't entirely linear - they were swirly/chaotic in part of the slab. That allowed us to position the templates so that the only seam was at the sink in the swirly area and the grain turns direction there. Debbie the slabs at a slab yard are made of lots of kinds of rock but generally they group any soft sedimentary rock as "marble" and any hard igneous or metamorphic rock as "granite". True granite is a particular kind of igneous rock. Quartzite is a metamorphic rock composed mainly of quartz - so it is very hard. Our stone was called a granite at the slab yard but a geologist would classify it as quartzite. |
- Posted by debbie_2008 (My Page) on Mon, Apr 7, 08 at 2:03
cloud..thanks so much for the explanation. |
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This splendid apartment is in the enviable position being directly on the seafront of Santa Maria di Castellabate and offers stunning views of the coast with its sandy beaches on one side whilst a stretch of azzure sea on the other side takes the eye as far as the Amalfi coast and the island of Capri. The apartment is within walking distance of the village centre with its shops cafes and general amenities. The newly renovated apartment is situated in a grandiose building which originally dates back to the 15th century but in its present form since the 18thc and once the residence of noble gentry, the building is a land mark in Santa Maria built directly on the rocks and seafront it was in later years the gathering point of fishermen who would dock their boats on the lower 'cantinas'. Today the main building retains its original features but has been converted into private apartments. The sandy beach is on your doorstep and the apartment would be ideal as a romantic honeymoon location, from the bedroom to the island of Licosa can be seen where, legend has it, Ulysses ship ran aground when he was mesmerised by the mermaids' chants.
Size | Sleeps up to 6, 2 bedrooms |
Nearest beach | 5 meters |
Access | Car not necessary |
Nearest Amenities | 300 m |
Nearest travel links | Nearest airport: Naples 120 km, Nearest railway: Agropoli 13 km |
Family friendly | Great for children of all ages, Suitable for people with restricted mobility |
Notes | No pets allowed, No smoking at this property |
Features and Facilities
Luxuries | Sea view |
General | TV, CD player |
Standard | Kettle, Toaster, Iron, Hair dryer |
Utilities | Cooker, Fridge, Freezer, Washing machine |
Rooms | 2 bedrooms, 1 bathrooms of which 1 Family bathrooms |
Furniture | 1 Sofa beds, Single beds (2), Double beds (1), Cots (1), Dining seats for 6, Lounge seats for 6 |
Other | Linen provided, Towels provided |
Outdoors | Balcony or terrace |
Further details indoors | Situated on the 1st floor this large apartment consists of 2 bedrooms, 1 small twin and 1 double with balcony with superb sea view, a modern kitchen with washing machine, bathroom with shower and a spacious living/dining area which gives onto a large balcony ideal for outdoor dining, sunbathing or enjoying memorable sunsets. The entrance to the apartment is via a grandiose stairway which winds its way to the 1st floor beneath arches. The apartment itself is decorated in Mediterranean colours, the cool pastel walls and high ceilings further enhancing the feeling of space whilst colourful hand painted antique majolica flooring in the living area is typical of the Cilento area adding warmth and dimension. The double bedroom has a balcony and one can admire the stunning view beyond the beach along the coast to the island of Licosa where legend has it the mermaids chants can still be heard . The living/dining area is tastefully decorated and contains a wooden table with sideboard cup-boards, sofa which converts to a sofabed, 2 armchairs and satellite TV. The harmonious interior is balanced by an equally stunning sea view. The apartment lends itself as a wonderful setting for a honeymoon with its romantic and harmonious feel. |
Further details outdoors | The spacious terrace balcony has a table and chairswith umbrella and loungers. It is an ideal spot to dine outdoors, relax ,read and sunbathe . If you don't want to be on the beach it is wonderful to nip down for a swim and then come back to the property and enjoy the views sipping a cool drink! |
Further details | There is a 30% deposit arrivals generally after 5pm vacate property by 10 am 55 Euro end cleaning bedlinens provided |
The Campania region
The village of Santa Maria is situated in a wide sandy bay 120 km south of Naples and 50km south of Salerno. The Campania region offers a variety of contrasting scenery from the coast to the hills and is steeped in history Greek mythology and legends reflected in the numerous relics and still alive in traditions and thought.
Recently Santa maria di Castellabate has been the location setting for the film 'Benvenuti al Sud' which has been having enormous box office success.
Excursion Possibilities The area offers a variety of choice for excursions to the better known tourist attractions- the historic sites of Pompeii and Paestum, the dramatic cliff-like Amalfi coast with the picturesque towns of Amalfi, Ravello, Positano, Sorrento and the Island of Capri. The caves of Pertosa and Castelcivita and Palinuro also offer a fascinating outing, not to mention the local area where stone farmhouses hidden amongst the olive groves and entire villages stand as relics to times gone by.
Santa Maria di Castellabate
Local Information The village of Santa Maria di Castellabate is situated on the beautiful and unspoilt Cilento Coastline which in turn lies in the Parco Nazionale del Cilento a natural parkland reserve which stretches along the coast and inland to the hill of Vallo di Diano. Offering a wonderful combination of wide sandy bays, rocky coves, verdant hillside and natural flora and fauna. The many sandy beaches in and around Santa Maria di Castellabate were recently awarded the 'bandiera blu' for their clean seas. The village of Santa Maria runs parallel to the coast and offers a variety of shops, bars and gelaterias, whilst the area boasts a wide selection of good restaurants offering genuine local cuisine.
Santa Maria The position of the apartment means that it is not necessary to have a car since the central piazza and pedestrian village are just on short stroll away whilst the sea is on your doorstep. The neighbouring village of San Marco with its picturesque port can be reached in a short bus/car drive or by walking along the beach . The medieval village of Castellabate now under the patronage of the UNESCO can also be reached in a short bus/car drive and offers stunning views of the coast whilst one can explore its hidden alleyways and marvel at its historic architecture. It is still an inhabited medieval village which has conserved many of its original features and boasts such personalities of Napoleon Bonaparte and Leon Cavallo as past guests. There are numerous restaurants in the area serving traditional dishes with home-grown produce and local wine. There is a weekly market in Santa Maria and surrounding villages , boat excursions in and around the bay, roller skating park in summer.
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Advice to ManagementAdviceDo all you can to succeed!
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