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The snowy Tatra mountains make a magical backdrop to a family winter holiday with a difference. Have fun trying dog sledding, skiing and snowshoeing, then warm up in natural thermal pools.
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Winter Slovakian Family Holiday
Trip code: WCFW
Validity: 01 Jan 2015 to 31 Dec 2016
Our Intrepid Family Adventures are designed specifically for the spirited family. We understand that travelling with kids sometimes requires a slightly different perspective. Keeping this in mind, we travel at a slower speed - recognising that showing your family around our exotic destinations can take time. By travelling at a relaxed pace, while still offering plenty of optional activities along the way, we're providing your family with the ultimate travel experience together.Accommodation is chosen carefully to ensure your family gets the best of both worlds, with some of the creature comforts of home as well as experiencing accommodation unique to the region you are travelling through. Wherever possible you will stay in hotels with small comforts to make your stay more enjoyable - such as restaurants nearby, or accommodation with a pool. On some trips you may even find your family being rocked to sleep on an overnight sleeper train or drifting off while camped out under a canopy of stars - and we reckon it'll be these experiences the kids will love and remember the most. Best of all, we find trips with children are so successful because kids have such a special ability to break down barriers with their natural curiosity, and because delighted locals always greet them with much affection. For all these reasons and more, you'll discover that Intrepid Family Adventures are an amazing experience for all.
Take advantage of Slovakia's shimmering landscapes and explore it in a new way every day. Children will love the variety of winter sports on offer, with plenty of free time for a family snowball fight and snowman competitions. Whether a family of experienced skiers or new to the alpine environment, lessons ensure the downhill experience is nothing but fun. Indulge in a host of other adrenaline activities, from dog sledding with eager huskies to the freedom of walking with snowshoes. Above all, instil all ages with a love of the great outdoors and a heart-warming glow of daily delight.
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- Original trips are classic Intrepid adventures. With a mix of included activities and free time, they offer plenty of opportunities to explore at your own pace and take part in activities that really get beneath the skin of a destination. While the occasional meal may be included, you'll have the freedom to seek out your own culinary adventures. Accommodation is generally budget or tourist class (2-3 star), but you're as likely to find yourself as a guest of a local family as staying in a hotel or camping. Transport will vary as well. Depending on the destination and the itinerary you could find yourself travelling on anything from a camel to a train or a private safari vehicle. It's all part of the adventure! Original travellers have a desire to make the most of their travel time and really get to know a place, its people and cultures.
Day 1 Zuberec
Welcome to Slovakia!Your adventure begins with a welcome meeting at 6pm on Day 1.After arriving at our pension in the small mountain village of Zuberec, there will be plenty of time for relaxing and meeting the other members of your group, before perhaps heading out to enjoy the first of many dinners. We are situated on the western edge of the High Tatra, Zuberec was originally an agricultural settlement. Today the village lies at the centre of three downhill skiing areas and has developed to offer a range of facilities for tourists in the winter and summer months, as well as a number of small guesthouses, pensions and hotels. Most accommodation in this area is built in chalet style, with wooden furniture, offering simple but clean and comfortable quarters. Breakfast is served in our accommodation each morning and we'll be able to choose from a selection of mountain restaurants and village cafes for our lunches and dinners.
Pension Pribisko (1 nt)
Days 2-3 Skiing/snowboarding
After breakfast we head into the Rohace mountains for a day's skiing or snowboarding. Downhill skiing has long been the most popular form of skiing; in fact it was first taken up as a leisure activity by the British in Victorian times. However in recent years snowboarding has become the fastest growing winter sport. Both of these activities require different equipment so your first stop will be to get kitted out with the correct boots and then either skis or a board.As well as experienced ski technicians, our leader will be on hand to make sure everything fits properly and to show us how it all works. Then it's off to the slopes. The village offers tracks (pistes) for all categories of skiers or snowboarders. Shorter slopes of 400m and 860m are for beginners. On the other hand a longer slope of 1490m is for more competent skiers. The main ski area is situated in the Pod Salatinmi Valley, 1090m above sea level. Here you'll find a self-service restaurant and artificial snow-making machines to ensure good skiing. If you're a beginner, you can join a three hour lesson, aimed at your level of ability/experience (additional charge), while proficient skiers are free to ski! For the remainder of the day you're free to practice our new skills or explore the area before returning to our pension.
Keeping our skis overnight we return back to the slopes. Beginners will be amazed at how quickly they can develop their balance and technique, whilst for more experienced skiers and boarders there's the chance to try more demanding pistes. Whatever you choose to do today will be a great day to be out and about on the slopes and whizzing over the snow. After lunch, we make the short transfer to Oravice, known mainly for its rich thermal waters. The healing waters of the thermal pools have healing and restorative effects which helps people with mobility, respiratory, circulatory and nervous system problems. This water also has good cosmetic effects. It is excellent for the recovery of tired muscles after skiing!
Included Activities
- Full-day skiing/snowboard
- AM - Downhill skiing
- Thermal Pool visit
Optional Activities
- Skiing lesson - Free
Pension Pribisko (2 nts)
Day 4 Dog sledding
After a good breakfast to set us up for the day, we'll leave the pension to meet up with the dog team handlers and their dogs – the dogs come from the Lower Tatra to meet us, and we'll get to know them in the fields around the village. Upon arrival the handlers will show us how to handle the sled and brief us before setting off. The dogs always get really excited as soon as they see the sleds coming out and it's often a struggle to hold them back, such is their enthusiasm.Each sled carries two people - a driver (or musher) and a passenger - pulled by a team of 2-6 huskies. It takes a while to get everything ready but eventually we'll set off in crocodile file, with the dogs tugging hard at their harnesses before they break into a smooth rhythm. All you can hear are the runners of the sled fizzing over the frozen snow and the odd bark or yelp from the dogs. Don't forget the magic words which the dogs listen to for their direction: 'Ho' and 'Dzi'. While you're waiting your turn, there'll be hot drinks and our leader and dog handlers will make a warming fire (if possible). There's also likely to be the offer to try some of the traditional home-made Slovakian spirit called Slivovica, which will definitely warm us up! It depends on the group, how long the activity lasts, so it should be an enjoyable activity for all!
Included Activities
- Dog Sledding
Pension Pribisko (1 nt)
Day 5 Slovak lunch/Sledding
This morning we're free to relax in the pension, explore the village or take an optional visit to a local school to interact with Slovak school children during their lessons before joining up with our leader for lunch with a local family. The main dish will be a specially prepared Halusky. This is a traditional mountain dish of hot potato dumplings served with melted cheese and sprinkled with bacon. Over lunch we'll discover more about Slovakian life and see how families live today. After lunch we'll take to the slopes around the village again for a sledding excursion. This is great fun for both adults and children as you whiz downhill on small plastic sleds!In the evening we visit the museum of Orava village accompanied by traditional music and romantic lanterns which is one of the biggest attractions of the region. A magical atmosphere is created as we walk along the snowy paths of a wooden village, without electricity, where our only light is a pair of illuminated lanterns. At the end of the evening we can dance to the traditional music. NB: The morning on day five is suggested for those wishing to visit a local Slovak school however the date is flexible depending on the group's wishes. The visit is only available on February and March departures as the school is closed over Christmas.
Included Activities
- Orava Village Museum
- Sledding
Meals Included
1 Lunch
Pension Pribisko (1 nt)
Day 6 Snowshoeing
Today we head back to the Rohace forest for a day's snowshoeing, our Group Leader will give a quick lesson on how to put on your snowshoes and how to use them with a pair of poles to move around. It really isn't difficult at all and, although you might feel a little ungainly at first, you'll soon discover that you can climb even a fairly steep slope with ease. With snowshoes we can go almost anywhere - which means we can get to places that skiers cannot. We may set off along a prepared forest trail but if a glorious view or interesting diversion presents itself, we have the freedom to get off the beaten track –literally! The group's ability will dictate how far we go but it maybe possible to climb to one of the highest peaks in the Western Tatra, Brestova, at a height of 1902 metres. As we're likely to be away from the main skiing areas it's a good idea to take a vacuum flask and provisions for a picnic.After lunch we'll meet up with your leader and make the short drive to the neighbouring mountain village of Oravice (11km), to visit one of the area's open-air, thermal pools (optional, at additional cost). Such pools are found in many parts of Slovakia and are popular for their restorative properties. As well as offering general health benefits, the waters of Oravice are reputed to have beneficial cosmetic properties - but they also make a great place to relax weary ski-legs.
Included Activities
- Snowshoeing - Zuberec
Meals Included
1 Lunch
Pension Pribisko (1 nt)
Days 7-8 At leisure
Today is free for us to choose from the many activities on offer in and around the village. You may wish to head back to the slopes for more downhill skiing or snow boarding (in which case you'll need to purchase a lift pass). You may decide to try cross-country skiing, along one of the specially prepared circuits on the edge of the village. Alternatively why not strap on some snowshoes and walk amongst the snow covered forests, or even have a go at sledging. Our leader will of course be on hand for advice, should you decide to explore further afield and to help arrange a celebration meal on everyone's last night together in Slovakia.There are no activities planned for the final day and you are able to depart our accommodation at any time. Please check the 'Finishing Point Hotel' section for checkout times and luggage storage possibilities.
Optional Activities
- Night skiing - Free
- Skiing/snowboarding - Free
Pension Pribisko (1 nt)
Also available to purchase
BIKE HIREBike hire is not included in the tour price and should be arranged at the time of booking. The cost will be added to your invoice. The bike type is Trek/Specialized mountain bikes with front suspension.Very occasionally a bike of your size may not be available. We may be able to offer you a bike of a different but acceptable size, or otherwise you must bring your own bike.If you plan on taking your own bike, please notify your sales consultant at time of booking so the bike hire charge can be removed from your invoice.
- WCFW - Slovakian Snow Adventure - Single supplement (WCFW)
- WCFW - Slovakian Snow Adventure - Single supplement (WCFW)
Itinerary disclaimer
Occasionally our itineraries are updated during the year to incorporate improvements stemming from past travellers' comments and our own research. The information given in this itinerary may be slightly different to that in the brochure. It's very important that you print and review a final copy of your Trip Notes a couple of days prior to travel, in case there have been changes that affect your plans. For the latest updated Trip Notes please visit our website: www.intrepidtravel.comPlease note that while we operate successful trips in this region throughout the year, some changes may occur in our itineraries due to inclement weather and common seasonal changes to timetables and transport routes. This can happen with little notice so please be prepared for modifications to the route.
Culture shock rating
Expect some culture shock. You'll be exposed to signs of poverty and access to services may be sporadic. The food will be quite different to home and English speakers harder to find. Respecting the local culture will make it easier to fit in and really experience the location.
Physical rating
This trip will raise your heartbeat. Moderate physical activities are included and a good level of fitness is required.
Included activities
Included activities are listed in the day-to-day itinerary, all other activities are optional and at your own expense. If you choose not to participate in the included activities on this itinerary, the cost will not be refunded.
What's not included
Any airfare unless otherwise specified in the itinerary
Passport and visa expenses Government arrival and departure taxes.
Any meals ashore with the exception of breakfast at the host hotel before embarkation and lunch on specified Fly and Cruise programs. Baggage, cancellation and medical travel insurance.
Excess baggage charges.
Laundry, bar, beverage and other personal charges unless specified
Telecommunications charges. The voluntary gratuity at the end of the voyage for shipboard staff and crew
Passport and visa expenses Government arrival and departure taxes.
Any meals ashore with the exception of breakfast at the host hotel before embarkation and lunch on specified Fly and Cruise programs. Baggage, cancellation and medical travel insurance.
Excess baggage charges.
Laundry, bar, beverage and other personal charges unless specified
Telecommunications charges. The voluntary gratuity at the end of the voyage for shipboard staff and crew
Money Exchange
The Euro (EUR) is the official currency in the following destinations: Andorra, Austria, Belgium, Estonia, Finland, France, Germany, Greece, Ireland, Italy, Lithuania, Montenegro, the Netherlands, Portugal, Slovakia, Slovenia, Spain. All other European countries still have their own national currencies.The most convenient and cheapest way to acquire money is via an Automated Teller Machine (ATM) or Bancomat as they are often referred to. Check with your bank in advance concerning the suitability of your account / card overseas and any international fees that will be applied.You can obtain local currencies easily at airports and major train stations, but be sure to bring some extra emergency cash in a major currency that can be exchanged if the ATMs are not functioning.When leaving home don't forget your PIN and make sure you know the telephone number for cancelling your card if it is stolen. Keep this in a safe place.Credit cards are not always accepted in stores and restaurants. While travelling we recommend you carry some cash to pay for restaurant bills and other services. Change can be difficult to obtain so throughout the day, try to gain as many small denominations as you can.You might be advised to take some of your money as travellers' cheques from a major financial institute. Travellers' cheques have security advantages, however please be aware that the exchange rates may not be favourable and that it is difficult to change Travellers' cheques in most countries. Be particularly aware that after hours money exchanges and hotel receptions carry high commissions- sometimes up to 20%.For money safety we recommend that you carry your cash and credit cards in a secure money belt or pouch concealed under your clothes.
Spending money
Every traveller is different and therefore spending money requirements will vary. Some travellers may drink more than others while other travellers like to purchase more souvenirs than most. Please consider your own spending habits when it comes to allowing for drinks, shopping, participating in optional activities, and tipping. Please also remember the following specific recommendations when planning your trip.
If you're happy with the services provided, a tip - though not compulsory - is appropriate. While it may not be customary to you, it's of great significance to the people who will take care of you during your travels, inspires excellent service, and is an entrenched feature of the tourism industry across many Intrepid destinations. The following amounts are based on local considerations and feedback from our past travellers: Restaurants: Local markets and basic restaurants - leave the loose change. More up-market restaurants we suggest 5% to 10% of your bill. Local guides: We suggest EUR1-2 per person per day for local guides. Of course you are free to tip more or less as you see fit, depending on your perception of service quality and the length of your trip. Remember, a tip is not compulsory and should only be given when you receive excellent service.
Departure tax
All departure taxes should be included in your international flight ticket.
Important notes
Age restrictions apply to this trip - minimum age 5.
Age restrictions apply to this trip - minimum age 5.
Group size
Maximum of 16 travellers per group.
Pension Pribisko (7 nts)
Family of two - All family groupings of two will be put into a twin room.Family of three - Wherever possible we will put you in a triple room. Please be aware that in some places triple rooms are in short supply. This means that, in practice, a triple room will often simply be a twin room with a mattress on the floor or a further bed squashed in. Where it is impossible to provide a triple room, you will have to decide which of your party takes the single room.Family of four or more - You will most likely stay in two twin rooms. If and wherever possible we will aim put you in a quadruple room. Whilst we will do our very best to ensure that families are roomed close together (in some cases, we can arrange adjoining rooms), we can't guarantee this. Most family holidays occur during peak season and we sometimes have little to no control over where you will be put. You need to come prepared for this.
Family of two - All family groupings of two will be put into a twin room.Family of three - Wherever possible we will put you in a triple room. Please be aware that in some places triple rooms are in short supply. This means that, in practice, a triple room will often simply be a twin room with a mattress on the floor or a further bed squashed in. Where it is impossible to provide a triple room, you will have to decide which of your party takes the single room.Family of four or more - You will most likely stay in two twin rooms. If and wherever possible we will aim put you in a quadruple room. Whilst we will do our very best to ensure that families are roomed close together (in some cases, we can arrange adjoining rooms), we can't guarantee this. Most family holidays occur during peak season and we sometimes have little to no control over where you will be put. You need to come prepared for this.
Meals introduction
While travelling with us you'll experience the vast array of wonderful food available in the world. Your group leader will be able to suggest restaurants to try during your trip. On our camping trips we often cook the region's specialities so you don't miss out. To give you the maximum flexibility in deciding where, what and with whom to eat, generally not all meals are included in the trip price. This also gives you more budgeting flexibility. As a rule our groups tend to eat together to enable you to taste a larger variety of dishes and enjoy each other's company. There's no obligation to do this though.
7 Breakfasts, 2 Lunches
Please budget for additional meals and expenses while on your trip. Our suggestion is based on past traveller feedback but you may choose to spend more or less.
Joining point
Penzion Pribisko
Pribiská č. 658
Phone: +421 907 873 336
Arrival complications
We don't expect any problems (and nor should you) but if for any reason you are unable to commence your group trip as scheduled, please contact your starting point hotel, requesting that you speak to or leave a message for your group leader.Please also make sure have a copy of the local operator's emergency phone numbers from our Emergency Contact section of these trip notes.
Finish point
Penzion Pribisko
Pribiská č. 658
Phone: +421 907 873 336
Emergency contact
In the case of a genuine crisis or emergency, Intrepid's local Slovakia-based ground representative can be reached on Tel: 00421 908 021 469 24 hours a day. For all other enquiries please contact our Reservations department which is open 24 hours, 6 days per week. For further contact details please use the following page:
Emergency funds
Please also make sure you have access to an additional US$500, to be used when unforeseen incidents or circumstances outside our control (eg. a natural disaster, civil unrest or an outbreak of bird flu) necessitate a change to our planned route.
Visas are the responsibility of the individual traveller. The visa requirements for your trip vary depending on where you are from and where you are going. As a general rule most countries expect that you will have at least 6 months' validity on your passport. On arrival visitors may be asked to present return tickets and evidence of means to cover your intended stay. We keep the following information up to date as much as possible, but rules do change - it's important that you check for yourself. Residents from other countries must consult the relevant embassies or your travel agent.
What to take
What you need to bring will vary according to the trip style you have chosen, the countries you are visiting and when you are travelling. Generally speaking you should pack as lightly as possible. On the vast majority of our trips you are expected to carry your own luggage, although you won't be required to walk long distances with it (max 30 minutes).Most travellers carry their luggage in a backpack, although an overnight bag with a shoulder strap would suffice if you travel lightly. Smaller bags or backpacks with wheels are convenient although we recommend your bag has carry straps. You'll also need a day pack/bag to carry water and a camera etc for day trips.You can find Intrepid's Ultimate Packing List on our website. It should be used as a guide only and isn't intended to be a complete packing list.
Consider bringing your own water bottle to refill along the way. The sale of bottled water contributes to an enormous environmental problem around the world. In addition to the water in bottles, the production of a 1 litre plastic bottle takes 2 litres of water and 200ml of oil. A large proportion ends up in limited landfill or discarded in waterways and natural environments. Although it can be difficult to avoid bottled water when travelling, please consider water purification techniques such as iodine or micropur and use the water dispensers which are provided at some of our accommodation. When unable to avoid bottled water it is better to buy the largest available and distribute into your smaller bottle for the day.
Consider bringing your own water bottle to refill along the way. The sale of bottled water contributes to an enormous environmental problem around the world. In addition to the water in bottles, the production of a 1 litre plastic bottle takes 2 litres of water and 200ml of oil. A large proportion ends up in limited landfill or discarded in waterways and natural environments. Although it can be difficult to avoid bottled water when travelling, please consider water purification techniques such as iodine or micropur and use the water dispensers which are provided at some of our accommodation. When unable to avoid bottled water it is better to buy the largest available and distribute into your smaller bottle for the day.
Many national governments provide a regularly updated advice service on safety issues involved with international travel. We recommend that you check your government's advice for their latest travel information before departure and ensure that your travel insurance covers you for all areas your itinerary covers. Please refer to our website's safety page for links to major travel advisories and updates on safety issues affecting our trip.We strongly recommend the use of a neck wallet or money belt while travelling, for the safe-keeping of your passport, air tickets, cash and other valuable items. Leave your valuable jewellery at home - you won't need it while travelling. Many of our hotels have safety deposit boxes, which is the most secure way of storing your valuables. A lock is recommended for securing your luggage.Your leader will accompany you on all included activities, however during your trip you'll have some free time to pursue your own interests, relax and take it easy or explore at your leisure. While your group leader will assist you with the available options in a given location, please note that any optional activities you undertake are not part of your Intrepid itinerary, and Intrepid makes no representations about the safety of the activity or the standard of the operators running them. Please use your own good judgement when selecting an activity in your free time. Please also note that your group leader has the authority to amend or cancel any part of the trip itinerary if it's deemed necessary due to safety concerns.For more details on the type of conditions and safety standards you can expect on your trip, please refer to Intrepid's operational safety policy on our website. We recommend that you take a moment to read through this information before travelling, and would appreciate any feedback on how well it's being implemented in the field:
Travel insurance
Travel insurance is compulsory for all our trips. We require that, at a minimum, you are covered for medical expenses including emergency repatriation. We strongly recommend that the policy also covers personal liability, cancellation, curtailment and loss of luggage and personal effects.When travelling on a group trip, you won't be permitted to join the group until evidence of travel insurance and the insurance company's 24 hour emergency contact number has been seen by your leader.If you have credit card insurance your group leader will require details of the participating insurer/underwriter, the level of coverage, policy number and emergency contact number rather than the bank's name and credit card details. Please contact your bank for these details prior to arriving in-country.Please go to our website for links to various travel insurance providers:
Responsible Travel
We believe strongly in low impact or rather positive impact tourism. Broadly speaking this means that we try to minimise the negative aspects of tourism on the local cultures and environments that we visit and highlight the positive aspects. Please visit our website for further details and suggestions on how you can be a responsible traveller:
The Intrepid Foundation
Since Intrepid Travel commenced operating in 1989 we've been committed to giving something back to the communities we visit. One way has been through our support for local humanitarian, development and conservation projects. Many of our travellers want to contribute something too. Whilst it is often tempting to give hand-outs to those less fortunate, this has the potential to promote a culture of begging and dependency. Handouts are not a sustainable way for individuals or communities to live. That's why we established The Intrepid Foundation – to make it easier for travellers wishing to give back to communities in an effective and meaningful way. The Intrepid Foundation is a not-for-profit fund offering a selection of excellent grassroots organisations which you can contribute to. All donations to The Intrepid Foundation will be matched by Intrepid Travel dollar for dollar (up to AU$5,000 per donor and a total of AU$400,000 for all donors in each financial year). And every cent gets there as Intrepid Travel pays for all the administration costs. Donating is simple and secure. Please ask your group leader for information on the projects we support through The Intrepid Foundation or go to our website:
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I have a 14-year-old female cat who is a bit of a diva. When our other cat (who had always hated her) died, we adopted a young male. We did the introductions right (keep the new one closed up, then introduce with door open a crack) and how they are very bonded together. The young male just LOVES my old girl, grooms her all the time and she just loves the grooming. I have had a lot of losses this year -- my mother, our cat, and then my husband died in October. I am emotionally not prepared to have another loss, but my 14-year-old is already taking transdermal methimazole for hyperthyroid and prednisolone for IBD, and now she is just getting over a feline herpes virus-caused upper respiratory infection and is impossible to medicate. She struggles mightily no matter how tightly I try to wrap her, and there is no one here to help me. She won't take an oral syringe. She eats the pill pocket and spits out the pill. She won't take anything dissolved in cream. The only thing she is OK with is the transdermal gel and not everything can be compounded into this formulation. With the herpes, these URIs are likely to come back; she has always had kind of a sensitive constitution. My little guy kittie (Eli), who is 2, came into a home with a sick and anxious man, who then disappeared (as far as he's concerned). He is just starting to get over some anxiety about these changes. I fear that with my old girl so hard to medicate, I will not be able to treat her for URI if it comes back. So would I be better off bringing in another cat now so Eli won't be completely bereft when it's time to say goodbye to his big sister? If so, I'm thinking a young female, but I hate having 2 so close in age, because then you lose them in rapid succession. Or would that stress out my old girl too much? |
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I'm so sorry for all the loss you've experienced in such a short time. You have some situations that I've had including a cat with IBD and hyperT. And I'm often pondering a third cat including when I thought my IBD hyperT cat wasn't going to live much longer. He ended up living a couple more years. I currently have a 14 year old diva cat who is healthy and a five year old cat who was close buddies with the IBD cat who died earlier this year. I thought I wasn't going to get a third cat but I decided the boy needed a buddy since the diva doesn't snuggle up with him like the cat who died. I had some trouble with one adult male who was too aggressive so I ended up getting a seven month old female and they were buddies within a week. I too try not to have them too close in age so I don't have multiple medically challenged geriatric cats at the same time. I can see why you'd want to get another cat now. If the new cat had the right demeanor it probably wouldn't be too stressful for the diva. |
I would wait to get another cat. It sounds like your two have bonded nicely, and your old girl must take a lot of comfort in Eli's affection and grooming. It would be a shame if you brought in a younger cat and the new cat and Eli hit it off (as youngsters and play pals) and your old girl was left on her own again, or stressed by any ruckus as the newbie settles in. It's always a tough time, but I find that I prefer to ride out a declining pet's final months without making any big changes, just giving him/her whatever he/she needs to make the passing as secure and comfortable as possible. |
I agree with ilovepoco. Bringing in another cat to a "14 yo diva" could be very stressful - not good for any of her medical conditions. |
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What do you say when people ask if you're gonna "try" for the opposite gender? That comment always annoys me. I haven't told many people that we're ttc but I've told a few friends and everytime they say "Hoping for a girl this time around?" Yeah that would be nice but I would have wanted a third child regardless of what I already have. I know they don't mean anything by it but I wish so much emphasis wasn't placed on gender. Something like "Oh how nice" would suffice.
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Personally I am just straight with people, not rude but short & sweet. I already know I am having my 4th DS, BUT have not told anyone. I get the, awww I bet you're hoping for a girl all the time. Well DUH people who wouldn't want the opposite gender after 3 of the same in a row...I just come back with actually I am just hoping for a healthy baby!
I know most people don't "mean" anything by their comments BUT others are just rude. Like for instance one time I had a complete stranger say to me at the grocery store (with all 3 boys in tote) awwwww you poor thing, I sure hope you are having a girl this time. I wanted to say ummmmmm excuse me *beep* LOL...but I quickly replied with why poor me? I have 3 healthy kids and 1 on the way regardless of what's between their legs. She looked at me like she had seen a ghost, I just smiled and walked off.
I know there is no way to stop what people say, we just have to be quick with the come backs :)
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I usually reply with something outrageous:
"no, we're hoping for a puppy"
"the couple we're selling it to may be hoping for a boy"
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I say, "What for? In the words of my mom, boy or girl, they're all a pain in the a**". Okay okay, I usually only say that to people I'm close with, lol. If it's someone I'm not on a close personal level with, I usually just say that we are more than happy with our three sons and would love a fouth just as much.
and and a a baby due May 30th, 2013!
I use the "I'm not sure what I'd do with a girl" line either.
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Awww thank you, you're too sweet! How old are your little fellows?
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I used to be more defensive about this question back when I had just 1 or 2 boys. I really think people are just curious as to whether families with all one gender are going to try for the opposite. That said, I would be offended if it was someone who heavily favored girls and was implying that my boys aren't enough, etc.
I usually now answer the question with "Probably, I would love to add a girl to the family, but if it's another boy we'll be just as blessed." Which is true. I sometimes will add that dh and I always wanted 4 or 5 kids so that is what we care about most.
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Exactly how I feel too. I think most people are just making conversation and don't mean anything by it. Kinda like when you have only one (I had an only for some time) and people ask when you're having another. It depends whether or not I feel the person is judging by making the comment, and of course, alas, some rude people do judge and make hurtful comments, whether total strangers, acquaintances, friends or relatives. If someone was implying that having an only or having all one gender was "deficient" in any way, I would be offended. I mean, it's the same when a married couple gets asked when they're going to have kids - they may not want kids - they may feel happy and complete simply as a couple and that's ok - no one should judge or pity anyone for such life choices or situations.
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So..... this sunflower looks pretty unhappy to me. I had two, but one has completely died off and been removed. This one has begun a similar browning of the leaves as the one that died. Is this one on its way out too? What is wrong with it? I'm not sure if this is fungal in nature or what, but it looks serious. It's opening a bloom, so it's not totally dead here. I went ahead and sprayed it with some neem oil today since I didn't know what else to really do. Not sure if that will even do anything since I'm not sure what the problem is. I read something about a rust mold or something in my google quests, but am not sure if that is what I have here. The coloring certainly does look somewhat "rusty". The leaves are dry and sort of crisp. It's in a large container and I haven't been watering it much at all with this rain we've had. The sunflowers did great until I transplanted them into the large container where they began going downhill a while later. Help! |
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- Posted by GarnerGarden (My Page) on Tue, Jul 15, 14 at 21:54
Is it the same thing that is happening to these Vincas? I guess I just don't mix well with flowers!! |
Maybe the same thing ... You are only likely to get a single flower from that non-branching sunflower. All of them are magnets for both aphids and spider mites. I think you did the right thing with the neem oil. Why don't you take a close look for bugs on both plants. You may want to go ahead and spray the vinca. Be ready to toss the sunflower, however. Just enjoy the bloom. Steve |
It doesn't appear to be mites or aphid damage to me. It looks more diseased than infested with insects. My guess is a virus of some sort, but I'm no expert on horticultural diseases. I'd make sure to avoid splashing water from one plant to the adjacent plants and maybe exile the sickened few away from the others. Maybe someone with more disease knowledge can help...good luck |
- Posted by Denver_Designer 5 (My Page) on Wed, Jul 30, 14 at 20:43
Could be a fungal disease. If it is, you may find it helpful to apply a fungicide that's formulated for sunflower rust. |
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Ms. Worrall allowed it's sensible for the focus to fall on the two people most involved in Keagan's care.
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Ms. Worrall said she's still puzzled about the man she met in the summer of 2009 and soon began living with.
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My friends and I are planning a road trip to the pacific ocean, however, this means I have to go through an "unfriendly" state as far as gun laws go, California. As we are going to be camping out I definitely want to bring one of my pistols.
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I assume it has to be unloaded and locked in the trunk or something similar and that my CHL is not valid there.
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Hello hosta mentors, I know, I don't NEED it, but thought it was worth asking: I love my 'Atlantis', and I don't 'Have Abba Dabba Do'. Is this a case like 'Sagae/Liberty', where you really should have both, or are Atlantis and Abba Dabba Do similar enough to one another that if I have one, maybe I should save my remaining space for something else entirely, since it'll get quite LARGE? They look quite similar to me in pics, but I've never seen an Abba Dabba Do 'in person'. Anyone have both, or seen both with their own eyes? Thanks! |
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- Posted by almosthooked 5 a BC (My Page) on Tue, Apr 22, 14 at 23:42
DON DON DON of course you need both what were you thinking ? lol Personally I don't have Atlantic but do have Abba Dabba Doo so will send my picture of a two year old and let you decide Faye |
- Posted by Don_in_Colorado 6a (My Page) on Wed, Apr 23, 14 at 0:10
Hmmm........it IS nice.....I am undecided...Oh, woe is me, I have to decide whether to buy this one or not...These are the important choices in life...Hmmm Thanks for a pic, Faye. ; ) Don B. |
have wilma, do i need betty too? of course! dave |
- Posted by timhensley 5VT (My Page) on Wed, Apr 23, 14 at 6:50
I have both. Atlantis is much prettier but Abba Dabba Do is much bigger. My 5 year old Atlantis. If I only had room it would be Atlantis for me. |
- Posted by ken_adrian MI z5 (My Page) on Wed, Apr 23, 14 at 6:55
betty was hotter than wilma ... lol ken |
H. 'Abba Dabba Do' is so much different to 'Atlantis'. Hostas montana 'Aureomarginata', 'Atlantis' and 'Abba Dabba Wow' are similar, but I have them all. They are so much better than all the other green with white/yellow margins. H. 'Atlantis' is to get 30 inches tall, the others 24 inches. Get them all! Bernd |
- Posted by ken_adrian MI z5 (My Page) on Wed, Apr 23, 14 at 8:44
what a silly title/premise ... in all reality.. you dont NEED another hosta.. regardless of what it is .. lol so why even play that game??? ken ps: what???? .. you have 5 acres.. and now are collecting look alikes.. you already know the answer to that ... are you a plant collector.. or a name collector???? |
- Posted by moccasinlanding z9A AL (My Page) on Wed, Apr 23, 14 at 10:03
Nobody needs another....unless it is an addiction...which makes this a moot question......of course you are addicted! But Ken's parting shot, "are you a plant collector...or a name collector????" is a question worth pondering. For myself, at any rate. I've always liked to have the full series of book titles, you know, the whole Travis McGee series, the whole No. 1 Ladies Detective series, so on. And I like to have the whole series of sports and offspring of certain fragrant hosta. In that case, names are important whether the plant is obviously different or subtly different....or I can decide for myself if it is the exact same plant. In your case, DonB, you should grow both. If down the road you decide ADD is not for you, pass it along to a neighbor showing signs of sensitivity to hosta addiction. He'll thank you for a lovely plant. Here I sit with no horse in this race, and I say go for it. Why NOT? |
- Posted by Don_in_Colorado 6a (My Page) on Wed, Apr 23, 14 at 19:10
ken, Thanks... you're very helpful... now go back to the conifers forum where you belong... and be an arsehole... to those peeps... for a while... see ya tomorrow... : P don b Edited for... lots of...dots... |
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ken you must be thinking of mary ann on gilligan, much nicer than ginger .... dave |
- Posted by Don_in_Colorado 6a (My Page) on Wed, Apr 23, 14 at 19:35
Yeah, Ginger looked like a cheap floozie, Mary Ann was much hotter. Don B. |
Dear Don, No, you don't need Abba Dabba Doo. In fact, you don't need any more hostas. You should stop buying them and put more money in a retirement account. Jana Dear Don: BUYITBUYITBUYITBUYIT :) Jana |
- Posted by Don_in_Colorado 6a (My Page) on Wed, Apr 23, 14 at 20:44
OK, Jadie. You're right. Just trying to fit in, anyway; almost all my pics of 'my' hostas are taken off the internet. 'Francee' is the only hosta I actually own, and it's been a single-eye plant for 3 years now. I'm so sorry if my questions about hostas annoy you. I'll attempt to phrase my posts in as non-inflammatory a manner as possible. Please like me. Don B. |
- Posted by mountainy_man 8 Ireland (My Page) on Wed, Apr 23, 14 at 20:48
Well Don, Abba dabba do is on my next list for a fransen order, I have seen some really nice pics of it on here possibly in the alpabet threads can't remember. Atlantis doesn't seem to be on one of my lists so it mustn't have tickled me, lol Sorry , long winded way of saying yes get it lol. In my humble opinion it is nicer than Atlantis, not sure why though. As for the betty and wilma thing I'm with ken, betty was indeed hotter but she must be well in her nineties now lol as for the gilligan one I have never seen it so can't comment. Denis |
- Posted by Don_in_Colorado 6a (My Page) on Wed, Apr 23, 14 at 20:58
Denis, Mary Ann on left, Ginger on right. Oh yeah, thanks for the opinion on Abba Dabba Do, BTW. Don B. |
Aw, shucks, Don...I can't tell if you're kidding around about being bugged. You are, right? You had me chuckling, then the last few sentences give me that, "uh, oh, my post came across totally wrong" feeling... :-s |
- Posted by Don_in_Colorado 6a (My Page) on Wed, Apr 23, 14 at 21:09
LOL gotcha, Jadie. : ) Don B. |
Whew!...fyi, you play "huffy" very convincingly! :) ...now I can go back to laughing about the prospect of visiting your garden, camera in hand, full of enthusiasm...only to find a straggly Francee limping along in a yard full of lawn. heh, heh, heh. |
- Posted by Don_in_Colorado 6a (My Page) on Wed, Apr 23, 14 at 21:20
Yup, Jadie, right in the middle of my lawn, and the grass is taller than my lone, one-eyed hosta. I stepped on it while I was looking for it yesterday. No flower scapes this season, either. : ( |
- Posted by josephines67 5 ON (My Page) on Wed, Apr 23, 14 at 21:22
I'm sorry, Don. I'm just a tad confused here. I think Ken has been invaded by the body snatchers. You have, let's say for arguments sake, 150 hosta. Ken has or had 1500. I don't think I have to phrase the obvious question. Ken, most of us learned a lesson when small - one taught by our parents. It goes like this...." When you have nothing nice to say, don't say anything at all." I'm sorry you are having a bad day. Don, I don't have either but Atlantis is on my list to get. |
No prob, Don...just head over to your local big box store and pick up a few. The green and white ones are prettier than the plain green ones, but if you're really lucky they might have the kind with a cool "ink bleed" pattern between the veins on the leaves... |
- Posted by Don_in_Colorado 6a (My Page) on Wed, Apr 23, 14 at 21:32
Like this 'Watermelon' variety of Sum and Substance that was offered by a local retailer last season, Jadie? For only 27 bucks?? It's so pretty. : ) Don B. |
- Posted by Don_in_Colorado 6a (My Page) on Wed, Apr 23, 14 at 21:40
I dunno, Jo, I thought my question was pretty basic, I actually don't wanna get a plant that is really similar-looking to another, I DON'T have 5 acres, so that's why I ask peeps who may have both, or at least have seen both. And thanks for the information in answer to my question, all. I can't promise I won't offend anyone in the future; I may ask another question someday. Good guess, Jo. I DO have about 150 hostas! : ) Don B. |
- Posted by ilovetogrow 9 Jax Florida (My Page) on Wed, Apr 23, 14 at 21:48
Yes. And you need a few more, like 10, to go with it. My 3 cents, Paula |
- Posted by Don_in_Colorado 6a (My Page) on Wed, Apr 23, 14 at 22:08
Sounds like a plan, Paula. I can't keep up with Mocc, much as I'd like. Get 'em, Mocc! Every fragrant you can get your hands on!! I will live vicariously through each rare fragrant you acquire...As long as you post pics of 'em. : ) Don B. |
- Posted by moccasinlanding z9A AL (My Page) on Thu, Apr 24, 14 at 1:17
OMG, that fake ad of yours Don sent chills. And then the picture..... Well, Don, you'd be a lot further down the road to ....perdition....if you had not gone overboard on Guacamole, am I right? But you pays your money and makes your choice. Here here, I received another (small) order today, with a gift hosta no less. So they were all different varieties. Each one counts toward the new total. I mention this because I have all three of you....you know who I mean.....here .......... so listen up: The GreenMt order comes tomorrow. I go out to buy more pots tomorrow at Lowes. Get a couple more bags of MiracleGro and pine bark mini-nuggets and order a pair of big jars crushed cayenne pepper. Or raid the driveup window of every take out pizza joint south of I-10. And I better put in a rush order for a 50 lb bag of crushed crab shells from Neptune Harvest! Canada is shipping their crab shells to Glouster MA where they sell it to unsuspecting innocent little old ladies in Alabama. Adding this comment about your post DonB. I am touched. You can bet that tracking down those elusive fragrants, the search is as much a part of it as the finding and acquiring. You and the other forum members recognized the pattern before I did. I am swept up by the subject, that is for sure. It is fun, and keeps me off the streets. |
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- Posted by josephines67 5 ON (My Page) on Thu, Apr 24, 14 at 2:03
Don,Paula I think Mocc is messing with us! I think I lost my count somewhere. She's posting these amazing shots of gorgeous hostas so we forget to count - you know - side-tracking! :-). |
- Posted by moccasinlanding z9A AL (My Page) on Thu, Apr 24, 14 at 2:15
Ahhh, this is so great. Now I can go to bed and sleep peacefully. What a day it has been. My cup runneth over. |
- Posted by ken_adrian MI z5 (My Page) on Thu, Apr 24, 14 at 7:01
i simply dont know what you peeps are talking about... anyone understand self deprecation .. back in the day.. i had 1650 different hosta ... there comes a point in time ... where one asks.. do i NEED another one ... the answer is ALWAYS NO!!!! and perhaps i should have starting asking myself that at 350 ... and stopped by 700.. before i got to 1400.. which led to 1650 .. crikey .. ken |
When you want to have more very rare hostas even with your own names on them, all you have to do is grow them from seeds. You easily can get 1000 more, even after you cull a lot. |
people, people, people treat don with more respect. he lives in colorado, where people are allowed to recreate 'differently' even if he is not partaking ... we think he should ... he is probably succumbing to all the second hand smoke. in other words, expect him to be nuts. 1. he was born that way, and 2. he can't help it. _~ dave |
- Posted by Don_in_Colorado 6a (My Page) on Thu, Apr 24, 14 at 14:37
I don't smoke weed, Dave. To each his own, I say. I'm well out of high school, and I got sh*t to do, dude. I know you're just being diplomatic by way of humor, Dave. I can appreciate that. : ) Treat me with respect, or don't. I don't care. Just expect to get back what you give. Ken, I guess that's your way of saying you're not a rude little fellow. Your posts speak for themselves. Your nasty attitude and the insulting manner of your posts got old years ago. I can only imagine what some newbies think of your 'welcome' posts to them. Poor them. Whatever. I don't need your help in my garden, and needless to say, you don't need my help in yours. Interacting with people like you is a waste of my time remaining on this earth. I pretend you don't exist from this point on, and you should consider doing the same in regards to me. We've got NOTHING more to say to each other as far as I'm concerned. You want a last word or whatever, go for it. Later. Sincerely, |
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Running for reelection in a vote set for March 14, President Vladimir Putin is apparently so confident that he has declined to debate any of his six challengers, and recently told supporters he would not retire from public life before anointing a successor who will "ensure a continuation of what there is now."
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A virtual unknown, tapped as former President Boris Yeltsin's successor in 1999, Putin inherited a country reeling from a decade of economic contraction and foreign policy drift, the 1998 financial crash, and a wave of corruption scandals reaching into the upper echelons of the Kremlin. Perhaps most of all, the articulate and vigorous former KGB spy, who assumed power on New Year's Day 2000, shone by contrast with his doddering and sickly predecessor.
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4May 9, '09 by libnatLeast the docs were somewhat punished.
GARDEN CITY, N.Y. - One of the highest-paid doctors in New York refused to perform brain surgery on an already-anesthetized patient whose scheduled surgeon had failed to show up, and the state health department is investigating
The unidentified patient was under anesthesia, head shaved, but the 48-year-old Bolognese could not be found, the Daily News of New York reported on Wednesday, citing sources it did not identify.
Staffers contacted Milhorat, who refused to do the surgery because the woman was not his patient. A North Shore spokesman said the woman later had successful surgery.
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24May 9, '09 by Rose_Queen, MSN, RN GuideWhy was the patient even taken to the OR if the surgeon wasn't around? It doesn't matter if one of our surgeons calls and says he/she is pulling into the parking garage, we must see the whites of their eyes before the patient leaves preop.
14May 9, '09 by rubyrn36To be honest... I do not know if I would do brain surgery on a patient whose case I did not know ...etc etc...maybe he would not have recommended surgery to this patient etc...
he is reponsible for his choices his behavior his practices...not another Dr
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18May 9, '09 by cardiacmadelineI am not an OR nurse, so maybe someone can explain this to me. If a patient signed a consent for a specific doctor to do surgery on them, and the doctor does not show up as in the article, is it OK for another doctor to do the procedure without the patient knowing? Because the consent has another doctor's name on it? Can the family consent to that? I am just curious what the proper thing to do in this case. I know if I went in for surgery at my hospital excepting a certain surgeon to perform it and I found out a different certain surgeon (who I wouldn't let touch my dead dog) did the surgery without my knowing, I would be extremely upset.
3May 9, '09 by cardiacmadelineI too was also wondering why you would want to do brain surgery on a patient who don't know.
7May 9, '09 by rubyrn36also wondering why the asnesthetist already had the patient under???
How where they going to do the "Time out" before they inducted the anesthetic!!!!
can you tell me your name???
Mr so and so...what are you here for today...
or are you here for blah...
right pt...right site...
infortunately when things like this happen...we see into the worlds of our opeers and see some of the corners they are cutting...
That is exactly what I think ANY TIME I read abuot a transfusion mis match....
did you check that with 2 RN's???
or where you going to have your pod mate "sign it later"???
I personally have caught wrong units etc that the blood bank mistakenly has given me...caught it when reading it off to another RN....
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3May 9, '09 by Higgs'...Milhorat "is widely regarded as one of the world's foremost experts on Chiari malformation, and his surgical expertise has benefitted thousands of patients around the world." '...
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0May 9, '09 by StrwbryblndRNI am interested in why. These docs are human and things happen. Unless I missed something there isn't a reason stated as to their explanation of why.
4May 9, '09 by YellowBoneRNHow was the patient even consented without the surgeon being there to discuss the procedure, side effects, and outcomes with her prior to her being put down? This is insane. I am glad she did not have any bad things happen for after effects. Glad it was a good outcome after all for this patient.


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It's not a good sign when a band's new record reminds you of a band you used to really like, and it's the same band. It's been about two years since Cut Copy hit us with their third album, Zonoscope, a 2011 year-end favorite and rightly so: The thing was voracious and gleefully vertiginous, as likely to wink in the direction of Men at Work as at a peak-hour 21st-century dance floor. Moreover, it cemented this Australian outfit's rep as a synth-pop band par excellence, one that might eventually deserve a spot on the genre's Mount Rushmore alongside Depeche Mode, Pet Shop Boys, and, I dunno, Erasure.
But man, two years feels like a long time ago.
Kinda sorta about cults or something, Free Your Mind takes nine jams and five tracks of trippy dialogue snippets to accomplish in 50 minutes what the Orb's "Little Fluffy Clouds" did in eight, in 1990. The record is so one-note it makes its predecessor sound like an entire season at the London Philharmonic. That one note is Cut Copy's very specific (and in this case incredibly anodyne) combination of four-four kicks, barely groovy bass lines, and strobe-light synth stabs: your basic dance-pop mirepoix, a flavor base the band generally does wonders with, or at least did.
"Let me show you love"… "Just keep holding on to love"… "Meet me in the house of love"… what sounds like a bad night of '90s house is, in fact, Cut Copy in 2013. Instead of a whirlwind tour of dance-pop songcraft with whiffs of Spaceman 3, Bronski Beat, and OMD — i.e., the kind of thing of which Cut Copy are capable — we're treated to John Carpenter-esque cheeseball danger-synths that evoke Big Trouble in Little China and spooky atmospherics that recall Halloween, which is sort of a compliment, but not one I think Cut Copy would (or should) appreciate. "Footsteps" is half-baked acid house; "Take Me Higher" sounds like Fatboy Slim trying to sound like Black Grape trying to remember how to sound like Happy Mondays. The beats are limpid, the noodling aimless. Ladies and gentlemen we are floating in warm oatmeal.
Now, look. I like this band, and perhaps there's another way to assess Free Your Mind, which is as a daft little experiment in early-'90s ambient-house reclamation, a glance back at that time when the poppier bits of early Ministry and the prettier bits of Aphex Twin burbled up in music made by groups like Orbital and Underworld. Those were neat times: E was pretty new, ravers took to the desert, Miley Cyrus was barely alive. Perhaps Free Your Mind is trying to get at that, and perhaps that's kind of cool, but to paraphrase Yoda, "Rave or rave not; there is no try."