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How to Join a Fraternity
Joining a fraternity is a lifelong decision. Look into all the fraternities on your campus to find out which one you will fit into best.
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1Your first day on campus, go to the fraternity house you are thinking about rushing. You will get a tour and a brief overview of the fraternity.
2Make sure your face is seen around the house. Go there often and hang out.
3Attend all rush events. Rush events are parties or social gatherings that the fraternity will hold. The last rush date should be a formal rush in which you will be interviewed to join the fraternity. See more details in How to Rush a Fraternity.
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Holding short of runway 23R waiting an arriving aircraft before crossing for departure from 23L, while an EasyJet A319 does the same behind
Takeoff from RWY 24.
First time i have been able to photograph this one, nice as it is its nothing on the MD11 we used to get from Fedex, hopefully soon Fedex will see sense and restore that flight.
Little Fedex
Slowing on 22 after its short hop from Amsterdam. Canon 400D Canon 100-400L IS.
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Cracks Showing in the Libyan Firewall?
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I would be worrying about my precious bodily fluids, not the internet.
He's been doing that quite enough. The whole time he's been in power, or at least the last 30 years or so, he has been obsessed with people being doped up, given alcohol, or otherwise polluted. A few days ago, he told the public to avoid any milk or Nescafe from the areas in rebellion because they had been spiked with hallucinogens.


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- PhD position in Quantum Cavity Optomechanics
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"Like melting an entire iceberg with a hot poker" – UCL scientists explore the strange world of quantum phase transitions
"What a curious feeling," says Alice in Lewis Carroll's tale, as she shrinks to a fraction of her size, and everything around her suddenly looks totally unfamiliar. Scientists too have to get used to these curious feelings when they examine matter on tiny scales and at low temperatures: all the behaviour we are used to seeing around us is turned on its head. More...
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MURCS association
Other Names for this Disease
- Mullerian duct aplasia, unilateral renal agenesis, and cervicothoracic somite anomalies
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fallopian tubes in females and the vas deferens in males), kidney abnormalities, and short stature (adult height of less than 5 feet). [1][2] Additional symptoms might include fused spinal bones in the neck and upper back and hearing loss.[2] These symptoms may vary from person to person. MURCS association is present at birth but may not be noticed until after puberty, especially when an affected female does not receive her first period. This condition does not alter a person's life expectancy.[1][2]
MURCS association stands for (MU)llerian, (R)enal, (C)ervicothoracic (S)omite abnormalities and is a developmental disorder that primarily affects the reproductive and urinary systems. Most individuals with MURCS association are female, although males can also have this condition. Females with MURCS association can have an absent or abnormally shaped uterus. In rare cases, the vagina is also affected. Both males and females with MURCS association can have absent or abnormally formed reproductive tubes (usually the
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- Duncan PA, Shapiro LR, Stangel JJ, Klein RM, Addonizio JC. The MURCS association: Mullerian duct aplasia, renal aplasia. J Pediatrics. 1979; 95(3):399. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/469663. Accessed 4/6/2011.
- Mahajan P, Kher A, Khungar A, Bhat M, Sanklecha M, Bharucha BA. MURCS association--a review of 7 cases. J Postgrad Med. 1992; 38:109. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1303407. Accessed 4/6/2011.
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Sisir Sahana's recent paintings mark his return in many ways
There's an element of intrigue and a lyrical quality in the works of artists who've trained at Shantiniketan. 'I Return', the ongoing exhibition featuring recent paintings of Sisir Sahana, is an ode to art from West Bengal that's rich in form, content and technique. It's been a while since art enthusiasts in the city witnessed an exhibition of Sisir Sahana's works. The title indicates more than the physical return of the artist. "The return represents both my physical and artistic journey," says Sisir.
Sisir trained in fine arts at Shantiniketan, before moving to Hyderabad. After spending 22 years in the city, he has now joined his alma mater as a faculty member. "With these paintings, I have returned to traditional Bengal paintings," he explains.
The acrylic-on-canvas paintings are rich in colour, tone and texture. Sisir takes us back in time when women led a life without technical gadgets, in touch with nature and beauty. He paints his women in black, white and grey and the world they inhabit in a riot of colours. "These are women who lived 200 to 300 years ago. I tried to explore and see if the world they lived in was colourful and if it would be possible to recreate a traditional way of living in present times," says the artist.
He takes a lyrical approach to his presentation even while voicing political and social concerns. We see a woman lost in nature with its flora and fauna, gazing at her reflection in the water. We see a woman offering flowers at the base of a wounded tree, sending out a message of hope and peace. We see a woman trying to find her own identity in her surroundings.
Most paintings have the presence of a face resembling a sculpture. "Though I began as a painter, people know me as a sculptor. By projecting this face in the background, I wanted to show an artist's presence in the context of his work; it's impossible for artists to detach themselves from their work," elaborates Sisir. The exhibition will also travel to Delhi and Kolkata.
What: I Return, recent paintings by Sisir Sahana
Where: Kalakriti Art Gallery, Road no. 10, Banjara Hills
When: Till January 4; 11.30a.m. to 7 p.m.
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McKenna's education plan calls for capping noneducation spending
Republican gubernatorial candidate Rob McKenna offered up new details Tuesday of how he'd try to substantially boost state education spending without raising taxes.
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Republican gubernatorial candidate Rob McKenna offered up new details Tuesday of how he'd try to substantially boost state education spending without raising taxes.
At its core, McKenna's plan assumes he can cap the growth of all noneducation state spending at no more than 6 percent per biennium, while state revenue would increase by 9 percent per biennium.
McKenna says his plan could free up $1.7 billion in new money for K-12 and higher education by 2013-15, fully meeting court-mandated spending for public schools.
By the 2019-21 biennium, he says, his proposal would provide an additional $4.7 billion for public schools and universities on top of the court-ordered improvements, reversing a decades long slide in state support for education.
"We think we have to make this choice if we are serious about fully funding our schools," McKenna said at a briefing with reporters in Seattle.
While the plan provides a guide to his aspirations as governor, McKenna's latest offering is not likely to settle the central question about whether his ideas are realistic. Democrats questioned how he'd achieve his cost savings — particularly in fast-growing areas like health care — to keep his education pledges.
State Rep. Ross Hunter, D-Medina, a leading House budget writer, said much of the growth pressures on the state budget come from medical costs, including services for the poor and elderly.
"You would have to take thousands of seniors off of health care," Hunter said. "Everybody has a wish that this stuff wouldn't grow, but if wishes were horses, beggars would ride."
McKenna said he'd push to cut costs in health care for the poor by encouraging more clients to move to health-maintenance organizations and other types of managed care. Similarly, he said he'd intensify ongoing efforts to encourage state workers to switch to cheaper, consumer-directed health-care plans that offer lower premiums with higher deductibles.
His plan also expects savings by reducing the government workforce through attrition and using more competitive state contracting.
McKenna said he was basing his revenue-growth assumptions on projections by the state Office of Financial Management. "They're pretty conservative assumptions. They're not wild and crazy down there," he said.
The focus on education funding has been driven in part by a state Supreme Court ruling earlier this year that said the state isn't meeting its constitutional obligation to amply pay for basic public education.
He proposes a levy swap to make education funding more consistent as required by the court ruling earlier this year.
McKenna also said that by 2019, he wants 48 percent of the state general-fund budget spent on public schools. Currently, 44 percent of the budget is allocated to public education from kindergarten through the end of high school.
And he wants to reduce class sizes for kindergarten through third grade to 17 students per teacher and pay for all-day kindergarten by the 2017-2019 biennium. Currently, the state budgets for class sizes of 25 students per teacher.
McKenna, the two-term attorney general, has made education a central theme ever since he kicked off his campaign for governor last year.
His Democratic opponent in the governor's race, former Congressman Jay Inslee, has proposed a similar set of ideas for improving schools and colleges. But Inslee has not put the same kind of specific numbers on his budget goals.
Like McKenna, Inslee has ruled out general tax increases to pay for school improvements.
In a statement Tuesday, Inslee campaign spokeswoman Jaime Smith mocked McKenna's plan as phony: "The formula he uses wouldn't generate the funding he claims for years, all the while critically underfunding essential services for children. It's more empty promises from Rob McKenna."
But McKenna said such criticisms are coming from the party "responsible for driving down education" over the past few decades.
"They have no plan of their own. They just throw words out," McKenna said.
Staff reporter Andrew Garber contributed to this story, which also includes material from The Associated Press.
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The Alex Awards are given to ten books written for adults that have special appeal to young adults, ages 12-18. The winning titles are selected from the previous year's publishing. The award is sponsored by the Margaret E. Edwards Trust. The Alex Awards are named after Edwards, who was called "Alex" by her friends.
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"The year is 1968. The world is changing, and sixteen-year-old Jon Mosher is determined to change with it. Racked by guilt over his older brother's childhood death and stuck in the dead-end town of Brewster, New York, he turns his rage into victories running track. Meanwhile, Ray Cappicciano, a rebel as gifted with his fists as Jon is with his feet, is trying to take care of his baby brother while staying out of the way of his abusive, ex-cop father. When Jon and Ray form a tight friendship, they find in each other everything they lack at home, but it's not until Ray falls in love with beautiful, headstrong Karen Dorsey that the three friends begin to dream of breaking away from Brewster for good. Freedom, however, has its price. As forces beyond their control begin to bear down on them, Jon sets off on the race of his life—a race to redeem his past and save them all."
The Death of Bees by Lisa O'Donnell
"A riveting, brilliantly written debut novel, The Death of Bees is a coming-of-age story in which two young sisters attempt to hold the world at bay after the mysterious death of their parents.
Marnie and Nelly, left on their own in Glasgow's Hazlehurst housing estate, attempt to avoid suspicion until Marnie can become a legal guardian for her younger sister.
Written with fierce sympathy and beautiful precision, and told in alternating voices, The Death of Bees by Lisa O'Donnell is an enchanting, grimly comic tale of lost souls who, unable to answer for themselves, can answer only for each other."
Golden Boy by Abigail Tarttelin
"The Walker family is good at keeping secrets from the world. They are even better at keeping them from each other.Max Walker is a golden boy. Attractive, intelligent, and athletic, he's the perfect son, the perfect friend, and the perfect crush for the girls in his school. He's even really nice to his little brother. Karen, Max's mother, is a highly successful criminal lawyer, determined to maintain the façade of effortless excellence she has constructed through the years. Now that the boys are getting older, now that she won't have as much control, she worries that the façade might soon begin to crumble. Adding to the tension, her husband, Steve, has chosen this moment to stand for election to Parliament. The spotlight of the media is about to encircle their lives."
Help for the Haunted by John Searles
"Sylvie Mason's parents have an unusual occupation—helping "haunted souls" find peace. After receiving a strange phone call one winter's night, they leave the house and are later murdered in an old church in a horrifying act of violence.
A year later, Sylvie is living in the care of her older sister, who may be to blame for what happened to their parents. Now, the inquisitive teenager pursues the mystery, moving closer to the knowledge of what occurred that night—and to the truth about her family's past and the secrets that have haunted them for years.
Capturing the vivid eeriness of Stephen King's works with the compelling quirkiness of John Irving's beloved novels, Help for the Haunted is that rare story that brings to life a richly imagined and wholly original world."
"At an exclusive school somewhere outside of Arlington, Virginia, students aren't taught history, geography, or mathematics—they are taught to persuade. Students learn to use language to manipulate minds, wielding words as weapons. The very best graduate as "poets," and enter a nameless organization of unknown purpose.
Whip-smart runaway Emily Ruff is making a living from three-card Monte on the streets of San Francisco when she attracts the attention of the organization's recruiters. Drawn in to their strange world, which is populated by people named Brontë and Eliot, she learns their key rule: That every person can be classified by personality type, his mind segmented and ultimately unlocked by the skillful application of words. For this reason, she must never allow another person to truly know her, lest she herself be coerced. Adapting quickly, Emily becomes the school's most talented prodigy, until she makes a catastrophic mistake: She falls in love."
The Lives of Tao by Wesley Chu
"When out-of-shape IT technician Roen woke up and started hearing voices in his head, he naturally assumed he was losing it.
He wasn't.
He now has a passenger in his brain – an ancient alien life-form called Tao, whose race crash-landed on Earth before the first fish crawled out of the oceans. Now split into two opposing factions – the peace-loving, but under-represented Prophus, and the savage, powerful Genjix – the aliens have been in a state of civil war for centuries. Both sides are searching for a way off-planet, and the Genjix will sacrifice the entire human race, if that's what it takes.
Meanwhile, Roen is having to train to be the ultimate secret agent. Like that's going to end up well…"
Mother, Mother: A Novel by Koren Zailckas
"Josephine Hurst has her family under control. With two beautiful daughters, a brilliantly intelligent son, a tech-guru of a husband and a historical landmark home, her life is picture perfect. She has everything she wants; all she has to do is keep it that way. But living in this matriarch's determinedly cheerful, yet subtly controlling domain hasn't been easy for her family, and when her oldest daughter, Rose, runs off with a mysterious boyfriend, Josephine tightens her grip, gradually turning her flawless home into a darker sort of prison.
Resentful of her sister's newfound freedom, Violet turns to eastern philosophy, hallucinogenic drugs, and extreme fasting, eventually landing herself in the psych ward. Meanwhile, her brother Will shrinks further into a world of self-doubt. Recently diagnosed with Aspergers and epilepsy, he's separated from the other kids around town and is homeschooled to ensure his safety. Their father, Douglas, finds resolve in the bottom of the bottle—an addict craving his own chance to escape. Josephine struggles to maintain the family's impeccable façade, but when a violent incident leads to a visit from child protective services, the truth about the Hursts might finally be revealed."
Relish: My Life in the Kitchen by Lucy Knisley
"I live in a world without magic or miracles. A place where there are no clairvoyants or shapeshifters, no angels or superhuman boys to save you. A place where people die and music disintegrates and things suck. I am pressed so hard against the earth by the weight of reality that some days I wonder how I am still able to lift my feet to walk.
Two and a half years after an unspeakable tragedy left her a shadow of the girl she once was, Nastya Kashnikov moves to a new town determined to keep her dark past hidden and hold everyone at a distance. But her plans only last so long before she finds herself inexplicably drawn to the one person as isolated as herself: Josh Bennett.
Josh's story is no secret. Every person he loves has been taken from his life until, at seventeen years old, there is no one left. When your name is synonymous with death, everyone tends to give you your space. Everyone except Nastya who won't go away until she's insinuated herself into every aspect of his life. But as the undeniable pull between them intensifies, he starts to wonder if he will ever learn the secrets she's been hiding—or if he even wants to."
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On this Memorial Day weekend, President Obama calls on the American people to join him in paying tribute to America's veterans, servicemen and women – particularly those who have made the ultimate sacrifice – and their families. [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8VikooiwQ7Q&feature=player_embedded[/youtube]
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Obama Weekly Address: Passover & Easter
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From the White House Blog: This week the President discusses the multitude of problems and opportunities before the world through the prism of Passover and Easter: "These are two very different holidays with their own very different traditions. But it seems fitting that we mark them both during the same week. For in a larger…
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(Proudly cross-posted at Clintonistas for Obama) I noticed something today. I noticed that something very interesting happened on this day seven years ago. Think Progress reminded me about it. Today marks seven years since the day President Bush received a President's Daily Brief entitled "Bin Laden Determined to Strike in U.S.†(See the memo here.)…


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LUCKNOW: Uttar Pradesh government on Sunday transferred Mathura's district magistrate Sanjay Kumar and superintendent of police Dharamveer for their failure to stop the Friday afternoon group clashes in Kosi Kalan area, which eventually assumed the dimensions of a communal violence and claimed four lives.
The government has also announced compensation of Rs 5 lakh to the kin of the deceased and Rs 50,000 to those injured in the violence.
Meanwhile, the NSA was slapped on the rioters, even as no untoward incident was reported on Sunday.
Meanwhile, Mathura remained tense but peaceful on Sunday. Locals bought items of daily use and food during the curfew-relaxation period.
Chief minister Akhilesh Yadav during the first law and order review meeting held in Lucknow had it made clear that in case of communal flare-up, the district's administrative and police chief will be held directly responsible for the situation. In case of Mathura, the government is said to be particularly unhappy over the failure of the district administration to respond to the crisis in time.
Sources in the state home department said DM Mathura Sanjay Kumar has been replaced by Alok Tewari, while NR Padmaja has been appointed as the new SP of Mathura. The outgoing SP Mathura has been attached to the director general of police (DGP) headquarters. Though the transfer orders for the SP Mathura had been issued late on Sunday evening, the process for the transfer of the DM is underway.
Curfew was clamped in Kosi Kalan and adjoining areas in Mathura on Friday after a clash between two groups turned into a communal clash. Scores of shops, roadside stalls and houses were torched by rioters in different localities across Mathura resulting in the death of at least four persons. More than 50 persons were injured. Local residents claim that at least two dozen persons are missing since violence broke out on Friday. Mathura police however denied having received any written complaints regarding the missing persons.
In a separate development, the state government transferred the district police chief of Budaun Rajiv Ratan Srivastava on Sunday night replacing him with Manjil Saini. This transfer came in connection with the incident of a minor being raped by a civilian inside the Lalpul police outpost in Budaun earlier last week. The entire staff of the police outpost was suspended immediately after the incident came to the knowledge of the state authorities. The inspector in-charge of the police station was also suspended while three constables present at the outpost at the time of the alleged rape were arrested and sent to jail.
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UPDATES: I called my agent, she called the showing agent. Showing agent called me and tried to apologize by lying......... At first the agent told me they did not see the sign and her client did not wear high-heel. I told her I have evidence and you'd better be honest....then her story changed to she did not see my sign till the very end when they were leaving my house, and her client was wearing long pants so she is not sure if her client was in high-heel......... Some people just keep lying even if they got caught......I told that agent I am upset but appreciate her calling to apologize. However, since there is damage on the hardwood floor, I will be contacting her if there is concern raised during the home inspection (by other buyers, we actually have two offers, but are keeping showing since the offers are contingency). My agent is wise and advise me to go in a gentle way too. It is NOT about the act someone did not take shoes off, it is all about the DISRESPECT of those people. They are young, they are in high-heel, they saw the sign and mocked about it, they have no excuse and no manner. I am not going to sell my house to someone like this anyway, it is just SAD that trying to please this kind of people in order to get an offer. Thank you all for sharing your thoughts. ----------------------------------------------------------------------
-- We have new solid hardwood floor(Dark Stained Maple) installed before listing our house. We vacuum, steam mop and steam mop again before every showing, it takes about 1.5 to 2 hour to do the whole house. We want to make sure the showing agents and their clients take their shoes off. We put a sign by the front door reads: Please take off shoes for your future new home. 9 out of 10 people will take their shoes off, and one who doesn't most likely missed the sign. However, we had a very upsetting showing today. I came back home and noticed small dents on the hardwood floor. Then I checked my security surveillance camera recording inside of my home and found out: the showing agent and her clients(young couple) noticed my sign, kind of mocked about it, and none of them took their shoes off. One of them was wearing high-heel. This is just maddening! I emailed my agent(she is great) : Please tell the showing agent, I will hold her client liable for the damages caused by her high-heel. I never thought our listing would attract those low caliber people. Also, I would like to call the showing agent's broker and let them know they will be getting a bill for the damage, or I will be seeing them in small claims court. My agent told me she is going to call them tomorrow morning. Any suggestion for me? Thanks. |
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- Posted by jennyzone5 (My Page) on Thu, Apr 24, 14 at 9:30
I would not imagine you could take someone to court for wearing high heels in your home. Do you see her doing anything but "Normal walking" in the video? |
- Posted by christopherh (My Page) on Thu, Apr 24, 14 at 9:41
What kind of "hardwood" floors do you have if they're dented by high heels? I definitely would not want a house if my wife or friends come in wearing heels and always have to remove them for fear of denting the floors. Floors are meant to be walked on. |
Solid maple......I think it is a basic curtsey to remove shoes, and especially for high-heel with steel caps, because it might cause dent. |
- Posted by nancylouise (My Page) on Thu, Apr 24, 14 at 11:16
uh, oh, this isn't going to turn into one of those shoes on, shoes off postings is it? I have to agree with christopherh, if your floors get dented just by walking on them with shoes...you should have chosen a different "hardwood". But, if it will make you feel better, do let the offending agent know what happened so she will take off her shoes next time. If there is a next time. NancyLouise |
I grew up with hardwood floors and never heard it was proper etiquette to remove your high-heel shoes before walking on them. I must fit into the "low caliber" group that knows no better. However, I have manners and if someone posted a sign to remove shoes before entering - no problem. |
B*ll Sh**. Don't expect people to take their shoes off while looking at houses. You have house on the market to sell, so there is a cost of doing business. Next time put good quality hardwood in your house. |
I would contact the manufacturer/installer- she walked on your floor in heels. That's not a rare thing, and it's not at all out of line to expect your floors to withstand that. |
- Posted by threepinktrees (My Page) on Thu, Apr 24, 14 at 12:42
The main problem I see is this: you are trying to sell your house. If you make a huge deal out of this to your realtor and she makes it a big deal to buyers' agents, any potential buyer is getting one message. Namely, your floors are high maitenance and won't withstand any kind of serious traffic. As a buyer I would immediately cross your home off my list. It just sounds like a stress and hassle. I understand how discouraging it must be to see signs of wear in your brand new floor that you are babying. Unfortunately it's just the way things go, and for most people that's just part of living in a house. It's fine if you want to leave the sign up, and you said most of your viewers are paying attention to it. I would strongly advise you to call your realtor back and tell her not to bother the other agent. The last thing you want is to have agents stop showing your home because they think you're going to try to hold them responsibile if their client scratches your floor. The other last thing you want is to give the impression to buyers that your home's flooring won't withstand regular activity. |
Just an FYI for those who think the hardwood floor should withstand a person walking on them in heels- they should. However -most high heel shoes have steel balls or caps in the heel. This is not a problem until the shoe has become so worn that the metal is exposed. That metal then concentrates a great deal of pressure on the floor do to it being narrow and will dent a hardwood floor. The wearer of such a worn shoe is aware because the heel gives a tell-tale metal clicking sound when being worn. So I think the person who created the damage should be liable for repair. |
- Posted by weedyacres (My Page) on Thu, Apr 24, 14 at 13:31
Being from a part of the country where it's common to remove one's shoes when going into someone's house (and not considered rude to ask), I think it's dreadful that someone would flout your request. That said, I doubt you have a legal basis on which to sue. If it were me, and I couldn't just "live with it" I would probably take the opposite from your proposed heavy-handed approach. I'd have my agent call the other agent and say "my seller is distraught (not angry, sad/bummed out) over some dents that appeared in her floor, apparently caused by your buyers walking around in worn-through high heels." Try to get the buyer's agent to feel horrible about it rather than defensive. |
- Posted by franktank232 (My Page) on Thu, Apr 24, 14 at 13:42
I know of a house showing where someone track dog #### all over the house (mostly carpeting). The realtor showing the house had a lot of cleaning to do after that one. Yuck. |
- Posted by chicagoans (My Page) on Thu, Apr 24, 14 at 13:47
What Acadiafun said. When the rubber end of the high heel wears out, the nail head pokes through. My HW floors were damaged by this when we had a party... just a few weeks after finishing a reno in which the oak floors were refinished. In several spots, the floor looks like a golf ball with tons of little divots. I was really unhappy about it for awhile, but then moved on. A friend's brand new house had the same thing happen when her SIL walked through with bad heels. You might consider getting something like Ram Board and laying it in the main walking paths on the wood floors. As for contacting the realtor about the damage... I would take a much lighter approach than threatening to make them pay, but I would let the realtor know what happened just so they're aware of the issue. Kind of like someone walking on the carpeting with muddy shoes... shouldn't their realtor know that they caused some problems? |
Lurker here but will be listing my home in the near future. Hey Wamot...I would be po'd too, but let it go. It's not worth it. I have lots of red oak in my house. I don't mind shoes or dirt at all, have lots of scratches and consider most of the marks the Patina of Life. But, when people come in with spiked heels the shoes come off. Doesn't bother me a bit to ask them to remove them and even explain why. My guests are people I know well enough to not be offended. Not a pic of my floor and I don't intend for it to be. |
Here is a link that might be useful: Heel damage voids your warranty
- Posted by Slimy_Okra (My Page) on Thu, Apr 24, 14 at 13:54
A lot of people here are missing the point. It was incredibly disrespectful on the part of the realtor and her clients to ignore the sign and mock it. Whether they personally agree with the rule or not, the home still belongs to the seller and the seller's rules must be followed. Otherwise, don't look at the home! In 90% of the world, you are expected to take off your shoes when entering a clean home. The U.S, the U.K, France and other parts of Western Europe are the only exceptions to this rule and they certainly don't represent a large part of the world. In Canada, realtors, sellers and buyers all take their shoes off before entering a clean home. No signs needed - it's what we do. |
- Posted by forboystoo (My Page) on Thu, Apr 24, 14 at 14:11
I like the showings where they have little disposable booties to put on at the front door. Many people fear taking off their shoes due to ugly toes or smelly feet. At the same time I understand not wanting where I've walked to become part of your environment ...(Weather it be damage or not) I don't want your environment becoming part of my bare feet. |
- Posted by live_wire_oak (My Page) on Thu, Apr 24, 14 at 14:28
Venting here is one thing. Venting to a buyer's realtor is quite another thing! You don't want to get the reputation as "that difficult seller". BTW, steam mops are NOT approved for cleaning wood floors by ANY wood flooring manufacturer. Only the steam mop people will tell you it's OK, and they don't provide the warranty on the floor. It can cause the wood to swell, and degrade the finish on it. If you've cleaned the floors as much with the steam mop as you indicate, the dents could be a result of plain normal walking and the finish softening from the steam. |
I completely understand your distress. I feel the same way about my cream colored carpet. Woe be to anyone -- guest or family member -- who even THINKS about walking on my carpet in shoes or dirty socks/feet. I can only imagine that you were screeching at the security camera when you saw that the buyer did the damage after breezing by your sign. I think WeedyAcres has the best approach -- the buyer's realtor needs to be made aware of the situation by your agent so she can better manage her clients as opposed to having her clients threatened with a lawsuit for damages. |
No comments for the OP but you certainly have a very high maintenance home. |
I recently sold a house with solid maple flooring, can't imagine getting angry at potential buyers for walking in shoes on my floor. I also can't imagine spending 1 1/2 - 2 hours prepping my flooring for every showing. What custom is in others places has no bearing on customary in the sellers area. Bottom line, concentrate on selling your house, getting angry sends a big message your house is too much work to own. |
I personally wouldn't look at a home that required me to remove my shoes. I wouldn't want to deal with a seller that was that fussy. I'd be afraid they'd make life miserable before we actually closed. Also, I'd wonder if the flooring was really cheep and that was why they didn't want people walking on it in shoes. |
spiked heels can dent hardwood floors--- the heels don't need to be worn through for them to damage the floor. i had newly refinished oak floors dented from a friends' newly purchased spikes when having a party... didn't occur to me to ask her to remove them because i never wear spikes and most of my friends don't either!! lesson learned! i think it's right for your realtor to let the other realtor know what happened to your floors... but, i don't know if you can hold her responsible for refinishing your floors... |
Potential buyers should have taken off shoes. It is common curteousy! We take off our shoes whenever we enter someone's home. Having a sign to take off shoes would give me the impression that it is a clean and well cared for home. The seller has every right to be upset. High heels can dent floors. I agree that seller should let the other realtor know the floors are damaged, but in a gentle way. |
I trust my shoes more than I trust somebody's floor. Never taken my shoes off, and never will. |
How annoying for you. We always take our shoes off when visiting and expect our visitors to do the same. When we sold our first house, viewers were asked to take their shoes off. We had very expensive off white carpets that we has kept spotlessly clean by take shoes off and wearing slippers. When we went house hunting then we took our shoes off, We are in the UK and everyone we know takes shoes off at the door. If people are uncomfortable going barefoot or in socks then take your slippers with you.When we visit this is what we do. I would think that if you view a shoes off house that it shows buyers that the owners are respectful of their home and take good care off it. Why do some people get so upset about simply removing shoes.Do some people actually shoes in the house? I realise that some may have conditions where they may have to wear shoes, but otherwise why would who has a lovely house not take thier shoes off? |
We had a potential buyer dig around our unfinished attic and make a foot imprint in our dining room ceiling. We had a few potential buyers through the home at the same time so we had no recourse. You have every right to be upset. Under normal circumstances, I would NEVER ask anyone to remove their shoes before the came into my home. But in this case, it was beyond rude for the person to wear damaged heels into your house. It is the same thing as if she tromped around in muddy boots. I do think your realtor should calmly mention the situation (including the security camera) to the other realtor. Nothing will come of it but hopefully the realtor will be more considerate in the future. |
- Posted by christopherh (My Page) on Fri, Apr 25, 14 at 6:44
We have a few houses around here that were built in the late 1700s to early 1800s. They have pine floors. The dents, nicks, scratches, etc are just part of the history of a home that had children living in them. Sure, many times they were resurfaced and restained, but the marks are part of the charm of the home. |
Spiked heels have been damaging good hardwood floors for decades. I have a housekeeping book published in the 1960s that suggests keeping a basket of slippers by the front door, for guests who are wearing heels. Two points--heels hurt wood floors. And back in the 1960s, in the US, asking guests to remove their shoes was unusual enough for this author to make a point of this. And I've seen posts from Canadians on other forums that prove that not all Canadians take their shoes off in their homes. It's regional, I think, just as it is in the US. Personally, I like to wear shoes in my house. And lately, it's become a medical issue as well--without shoes, my plantar fascitiis could flare up and cause a lot of pain. So when I'm looking at a house, a demand to remove my shoes is a sign to me that this may not be the house for me, if the flooring is so delicate that normal shoes can't be worn on it. The shoe covers don't send such a strong signal. They seem to indicate that the owners are trying to keep the house clean, rather than trying to protect delicate surfaces. But after stepping in something nasty and sticky while touring a house barefoot because of a demand to remove my shoes, I'm never taking them off while house hunting again. |
- Posted by nancylouise (My Page) on Fri, Apr 25, 14 at 7:36
Like I said, I hoped this post didn't turn into a shoes on, shoes off post...too late. But to get back to the op situation. Requiring potential buyers to remove their shoes upon entering the home puts up a negative undertone to most buyers about the house (high maintenance, will have to rip out and replace with liveable floors/carpeting. The owners are going to be a PITA to deal with, etc.). The majority of potential buyers will not be thinking, "ohhh, these sellers take very good care of their house!" And there is the rub. You want to have as many buyers come into your home and have a positive experience. Don't start off on a negative note before they even get into your house. But if you absolutely have to have a no shoes policy, you provide booties for the people to wear. NancyLouise |
- Posted by lazygardens (My Page) on Fri, Apr 25, 14 at 7:52
What kind of "hardwood" floors do you have if they're dented by high heels? Normal ones. A woman walking in stiletto heels has most of her weight on the TINY point of the heel during part of her stride. http://www.rocksolidhardwoods.com/heels.htm "Measured in pounds per square inch (psi), a car has a load of 28-30 psi, an elephant 50-100 psi, and a 125-lb. woman with high heels, when she takes a step and those heels hit the floor, 2000 psi! That's a problem for any floor -metal, wood, ceramic, carpet, terrazzo, and resilient." Compare that with the Janka hardness testing, which embeds a small steel thing into wood ... at PSI lower than 2,000 for most woods. |
(The majority of potential buyers will not be thinking, "ohhh, these sellers take very good care of their house!") We all create opinions and make judgements based on our personal filters. To me, seeing the note like the OP's when house hunting would cause me to appreciate the home even more. My thoughts would be that they clearly take very good care of the house and that's exactly the kind of homeowner I'd want to buy from. |
- Posted by ncrealestateguy (firstname.lastname@example.com) on Fri, Apr 25, 14 at 9:39
The OP clearly set the rules for anyone who wished to view the home. The buyer clearly disregarded the OP's wishes. The new floor was damaged during a time where it may cause her monetary damage. I would expect the buyer to compensate her. |
We saw similar signs when we were house hunting: "new carpet/floors, please remove shoes as a courtesy to the next owner" etc. accompanied by baskets of shoe covers. I thought it was a good way to highlight a selling feature. wamot, sorry to hear about your floors and I do think your agent should say something to the showing agent, but threatening to sue might be biting off your nose to spite your face? Good luck with your sale. |
- Posted by nancylouise (My Page) on Fri, Apr 25, 14 at 9:46
Yes, that's a very nice opinion you have, but it is not the majority of potential buyers' opinion. When selling a house you want to appeal to as many buyers as possible. Don't put up barriers where none are needed. NancyLouise |
"Potential buyers should have taken off shoes. It is common curteousy! We take off our shoes whenever we enter someone's home. " What you do has nothing to do with what is common courtesty. Almost nobody takes their shoes off when seeing realestate. I wouldn't expect potential buyers to, and I wouldn't want them to. Too much liability for them to step on something. |
"So when I'm looking at a house, a demand to remove my shoes is a sign to me that this may not be the house for me, if the flooring is so delicate that normal shoes can't be worn on it. "...... No, the shoes were not normal shoes, per Lazygarden's posting, they were a pair that could put 2000 psi on any floor. Would you allow someone to wear shoes made of steel bottom spikes? Are they normal shoes? Of course people take off their shoes when viewing a house especially when they are being asked. It is being respectful and considerate. No one has right to trash others' properties. Personally I appreciate home sellers pay close attention to the care of their homes. |
Here is a link that might be useful: shoes made of steel bottom spikes
"but it is not the majority of potential buyers' opinion." Based on the responses here, NancyLouise, it's not a majority opinion. "It is being respectful and considerate. No one has right to trash others' properties." Exactly. |
- Posted by RyseRyse_2004 (My Page) on Fri, Apr 25, 14 at 11:12
Threatening to sue????? Word of this will get around to all the Realtors in the area very fast ----- good luck selling your house when the local Realtors won't show it. I wouldn't want such a high-maintenance floor. Floors are to be walked on. |
- Posted by threepinktrees (My Page) on Fri, Apr 25, 14 at 11:24
To those implying that heels will damage hardwood regardless. I am that 125 pound woman putting 2000 lb psi on a floor in my spike heels. I do not wear heels around my house on a daily basis, but it is not uncommon for me to wear them around before I go out. We have red oak on our main floor and I have never noticed any dents or scratches from my shoes. We never require people to remove their shoes when visiting (or now viewing, as we are selling our home) though many people do it voluntarily. We have never found any damage from someone's shoes. As a potential buyer I would not want to buy a home in which I could not wear my regular shoes without ruining the floor. It sounds stressful. |
- Posted by andreak100 (My Page) on Fri, Apr 25, 14 at 11:38
Here's the thing - the OP has a sign requesting that people take their shoes off. It doesn't matter if the potential buyer and/or the real estate agent agrees with that request or not...they are going into another person's home and they should abide by the wishes of the current owner. It's as simple as that. High heels can, AND DO, scratch and dent hardwood (ANY hardwood) if they have not been properly maintained - the taps wear on the shoes exposing a nail and that nail head is often rough and is quite small, so you have an even smaller "strike point" than typical from a high heel. Well maintained shoes with heel taps that are in good repair will not typically cause issue with a wood floor. |
Slimy Okra said: "In 90% of the world, you are expected to take off your shoes when entering a clean home. The U.S, the U.K, France and other parts of Western Europe are the only exceptions to this rule and they certainly don't represent a large part of the world." I don't think your math is right. I think you can remove Central and South America from your list. Never saw anyone remove their shoes in that part of the world. No such expectations in Greece either. Have lived or spent time in several states from Florida all the way up to Maine ... no such expectations either. I'm in CA now and no such expectations either. Many kids will take shoes off on their own, but adults are not expected to, but it goes without saying that people do remove winter shoes if they are muddy/wet. Most of the damage on my site finished oak floors have nothing to do with shoes, but are due to dropping heavy items like food cans or the kids/husband dragging chairs as they get up. |
Agree with this>>>"As a potential buyer I would not want to buy a home in which I could not wear my regular shoes without ruining the floor. It sounds stressful." Just curious, as potential buyers, wouldn't folks also prefer to buy a home with a brand new floor? If you go to the car dealership would you prefer to purchase the car that's been test driven 100 times or one that is fresh off the truck? If you go to the store to buy a new sweater, would you buy the one on top not folded neatly that it looks like someone's tried on before, or would you grab one lower in the stack? I realize that houses are unique, but I think that "new" is an effective selling point -- perhaps different messages are being conveyed depending on how the "shoes off or covered" request is made. |
This post was edited by Oaktown on Fri, Apr 25, 14 at 12:43
"Just curious, as potential buyers, wouldn't folks also prefer to buy a home with a brand new floor? " Not necessarily. I like older houses over new houses for several reasons. The workmanship, the plaster walls, the overall style. But living in a "used" house means that there will be gouges in the wood floors, cracks in the ceilings, dents here and there. The wainscotting may be chipped, the varnish on the trim scratched, the brass dulled by time. Doors might creak, drawers might stick, hardware might be damaged or missing. Any damage I might inflict is going to blend right in. In a brand-new house, I'd have to worry about when the first ding, crack or dent would be made. I like the patina that 100 years or so puts on a house. I realize that others might not. But in the OP's case, with a clearly brand-new floor, the dents could stand out in a buyer's mind, and not in a good way. Brand-new things ought to look brand-new. Much though I don't like being asked to remove my shoes, I do think the OP has a right to complain about the damage. If a buyer goes through the house, accompanied by a small child, and the child drew on the freshly painted walls, wouldn't the homeowner have some recourse to have the damage repaired? |
- Posted by mamattorney (My Page) on Fri, Apr 25, 14 at 17:24
If they didn't want to abide by the request to remove shoes, then they shouldn't have viewed the house. Period. Yes, the seller may be reducing the buyer pool by her restrictions (seems common enough around here to take off shoes, but who am I to judge), but she has the right to put those restrictions in place - it's still her house. She could also have restricted all showings to Mondays between noon and 2:00pm - that's also restrictive, but well within her rights. Buyers don't want sellers present during showings because it makes them uncomfortable, but in order to have that freedom, they need to be mature and not disregard requests like this. I'd be livid - especially because they have video evidence of their disregard. |
You said in your original post that your agent was already planning on calling the buyers agent on Thursday morning. So what happened when your agent called? |
I just put in engineered wood floors and it says on the instructions not to wear high heels on it. When we put our house on the market, you bet I will ask people to remove their high heels. I would be livid too. I don't have any advice for the damage done to the OP's floors. I did want to say that perhaps there should be something in the description about the no heels policy when entering the house so realtors and their clients can choose different footwear before making the appointment. Or maybe a reminder when they make the appointment? |
UPDATES: I called my agent, she called the showing agent. Showing agent called me and tried to apologize by lying......... At first the agent told me they did not see the sign and her client did not wear high-heel. I told her I have evidence and you'd better be honest....then her story changed to she did not see my sign till the very end when they were leaving my house, and her client was wearing long pants so she is not sure if her client was in high-heel......... Some people just keep lying even if they got caught......I told that agent I am upset but appreciate her calling to apologize. However, since there is damage on the hardwood floor, I will be contacting her if there is concern raised during the home inspection (by other buyers, we actually have two offers, but are keeping showing since the offers are contingency). My agent is wise and advise me to go in a gentle way too. It is NOT about the act someone did not take shoes off, it is all about the DISRESPECT of those people. They are young, they are in high-heel, they saw the sign and mocked about it, they have no excuse and no manner. I am not going to sell my house to someone like this anyway, it is just SAD that trying to please this kind of people in order to get an offer. Thank you all for sharing your thoughts. |
Just another poster who would appreciate a home where the owners cared enough about the condition of the floors to require shoe removal/booties. I would TOTALLY see that as a positive...they may be picky, but of course that is a benefit when you are buying real estate! It would send the message of "well-maintained home" to me. I would lay off the steam mop so much, though...I don't think wood floors like that much water. |
- Posted by ncrealestateguy (firstname.lastname@example.com) on Fri, Apr 25, 14 at 19:50
Previous Poster wrote: "Here's the thing - the OP has a sign requesting that people take their shoes off. It doesn't matter if the potential buyer and/or the real estate agent agrees with that request or not...they are going into another person's home and they should abide by the wishes of the current owner. It's as simple as that." THIS is the correct response, as it makes no difference if others like or do not like to take their shoes off for a showing. I know for a fact that water based poly urethane can take a long time to fully cure to its complete hardness. Good to hear that you have a couple of offers. |
Thank you for the update, wamot! It's always great when the OP comes back to tell us how things ended up. It sounds like those buyers and the agent deserve each other. |
wamot, congratulations on the offers; hope your house sells soon. camlan, you make a good point but it didn't sound to me that this house is going for the "patina of age" look ;-). I like character floors too! |
I would not deal with a seller who is such a pain with people not walking barefooted. Do you tell people to take their shoes off when you invite them and they come well dressed? Pathetic |
I certainly agree that if the buyer did not want to abide by the request to remove her shoes, she should have just left. The amount of steaming of a new hardwood floor that is apparently going on (based on the OP's description) is very likely bad for the finish and the wood itself, and could well be a contributing factor to any dents. A surface raised by steaming would certainly show dents more easily. I find the surveillance video thing creepy. |
kabir, I feel sorry that you had such strong emotion after reading my post, but I think no one will force you to see and buy any house. I see people do belong to different classes, and you just have no manner and certainly will not be welcomed by most of the commentators here. |
Someone walks in your "for sale" house with their shoes and you make such a huge cry about it, shows the class very well. I own 30 plus houses which are high end by few standards, and put hardwood flooring in them the day I buy. I know wood does not get damaged by heels. Even if it does, have some class to take it in stride!!! |
So insisting on visitors taking off their shoes is a CLASS thing??? Ummm, no. |
We are in the UK and we don't know anyone who wear shoes in the house. People keep saying that people here don't take theirs shoes off. That's nonsense |
- Posted by ncrealestateguy (firstname.lastname@example.com) on Sat, Apr 26, 14 at 6:33
Kabir, If I were taking you around showing homes, and you refused the once - in - a - while request to remove shoes, and you refused, I would think you were a very strange cat indeed. 30 High end homes... yeah, right. |
- Posted by christopherh (My Page) on Sat, Apr 26, 14 at 6:48
Let's cut to the chase here. This isn't about what's normal about removing shoes or not. There was a written request that people please remove their shoes when entering. If I'm in the market and I see that sign, I oblige. THAT's common courtesy. The OP has proof they saw the sign and disregarded it. They should have removed their shoes or turned around and left. I've looked at homes with new carpeting and they put runners on the floor so the carpet stayed clean. It was definitely wrong for the realtor to ignore the request of the homeowners, because they're the ones paying her commission. |
- Posted by ilovemytrees (My Page) on Sat, Apr 26, 14 at 8:06
"To me, seeing the note like the OP's when house hunting would cause me to appreciate the home even more. My thoughts would be that they clearly take very good care of the house and that's exactly the kind of homeowner I'd want to buy from." That's exactly how I feel. To the OP, you put everyone on notice about not wearing shoes. If you can prove who damaged the floor you would have a solid case for a lawsuit because again, they were put on notice, ignored it, and then damaged your property. The idea not to sue over this is preposterous. Your home was damaged out of pure negligence. It's not you being difficult, it's the person who showed your home. THEY should get the reputation for being irresponsible, negligent and reckless, by ignoring the notice. Once someone is on notice, that's it. This is not a shoe on or shoe off situation, or about how anyone else feels about shoes in the home. It's a legal situation of an agent put on notice, and refusing to comply and the resulting damages. |
- Posted by nosoccermom (My Page) on Sat, Apr 26, 14 at 12:51
I personally do remove my shoes when I am asked to. How many dents are in your floor? If it's indeed very noticeable, buyers may not bring it up during inspection, but may nevertheless take it into account in their offer. On the other hand, I wouldn't bring "class" into this discussion, and wouldn't waste my time trying to "educate" other people, even if they behave the way you see fit. Also, would you really "not going to sell my house to someone like this anyway" if the price is right? |
- Posted by nosoccermom (My Page) on Sat, Apr 26, 14 at 14:10
Also, are you in a state where you are allowed to videotape and audiotape someone without their knowledge and consent? |
Oh, for heaven's sake. |
"Also are you in a state where you are allowed to video/audio tape without consent" Seriously? It is HIS HOME! If someone comes onto your property, you don't need their permission to have them on tape. It isn't a public area. |
Six years ago when we were looking at homes with an agent, we did come across one house that had a note that said, quite politely, "Please remove your shoes when viewing our home." I told the agent I would just prefer to leave because I don't remove my shoes, but SHE insisted since we had come a bit out of our way that it was okay NOT to.... Wouldn't you know...it was the house we bought. |
While it may be the norm in some areas to remove shoes upon entering a house, there are people for whom this may be difficult. There are people who are told to wear shoes all the time--people with foot, knee or back issues, people with diabetes. Diabetics need to wear shoes to prevent injuring their feet, which is more likely in unfamiliar surroundings such as a house they have never been in before. Some people have physical issues that make taking off and putting on shoes difficult unless there is a chair for them to sit on. Unless the market in a given area is really hot, I think it would be wise for a seller to provide alternative means of protecting the floors--runners over the major walkways, shoe covers, etc.-- rather than rely on having buyers who are willing and able to take off their shoes. |
Shoes are an integral part of a person's dress, whether its a man or a woman. Most people do not step out of a trench before coming to look at a house. The soles of a shoe are pretty clean. A nice door mat also helps the cause than being such a pain in$%$%$%.. |
Given the most recent posts, I think this post from above bears repeating: Here's the thing - the OP has a sign requesting that people take their shoes off. It doesn't matter if the potential buyer and/or the real estate agent agrees with that request or not...they are going into another person's home and they should abide by the wishes of the current owner. It's as simple as that. |
For pity's sake, we get your take on wearing shoes already, Kabir. What Is harder to fathom is the hostile and shaming tone. If you don't want to take off your shoes, don't. What's "pathetic" is to keep harping on and on about it with no practical advice or insight relevant to the discussion. |
- Posted by debrak2008 (My Page) on Mon, Apr 28, 14 at 7:52
I always assume I will need to remove my shoes when entering anyones home (for sale or not) and plan accordingly. "The soles of a shoes are pretty clean"???? I have stepped in dog do-do more times than I can count. We have had people with what must be tiny stones stuck in their soles and scratched our hardwood. Also we have an asphalt driveway. No matter how well we take care of it, tiny pieces of asphalt will track into the house and make nasty marks. I do not insist that people remove their shoes when visiting our home but most do anyway. |
- Posted by robotropolis (My Page) on Mon, Apr 28, 14 at 8:03
Re: recording. It's illegal in some states to make an audio recording of someone without their consent, whether or not they're in your home. However it tends to be legal to have surveillance cameras in your home without notification or consent as long as they're not in the bathroom, changing room, that type of thing. |
I once had somebody track black tar onto my new carpet. I am sure they had no idea it was on their shoes but it was. But I really don't think there is much to debate on removing shoes or not when entering someone's home where a sign is posted requesting it. If a buyer is turned off by it then they can leave. Also the surveillance camera is a great idea. In the last two months in my old neighborhood, vacant houses for sale were broken into and the houses stripped of copper pipes. |
- Posted by nosoccermom (My Page) on Tue, Apr 29, 14 at 18:11
""Also are you in a state where you are allowed to video/audio tape without consent" Seriously? It is HIS HOME! If someone comes onto your property, you don't need their permission to have them on tape. It isn't a public area." Not quite true. Yes, you can have surveillance cameras in your home, but there are 13 states in the country where you are not allowed to audiotape other people without their prior consent, regardless of where the taping takes place. Also, it's not like these people were entering the house unauthorized. Think about it. If you visited someone in their house. Would you be happy if you found out afterwards that your hosts were tape-recorded you without your knowing? If you are buying a house and are looking at it, do you expect that your conversations are being recorded? |
- Posted by littlebug5 (My Page) on Tue, Apr 29, 14 at 19:23
Gee, this has turned out to be a contentious thread! I'd be upset too, if my floors were damaged during a showing, and enraged by visitors who scorned my wishes. But I'd say this was at least partially your fault for softening the wood by steaming it. What were you thinking? OF COURSE steam will weaken hardwood. |
- Posted by debrak2008 (My Page) on Fri, May 2, 14 at 15:26
Most wood floors steamed or not will be damaged by spike heels. I used to wear spike heels all the time when I was younger. I did a lot of damage to floors because I did not get the heel tips repaired. Also, my friends damaged mine. Once I was going down carpeted stairs at work. My heel caught in the carpet, pulled the fibers, I was holding the railing, as I fell, I pulled the entire railing out of the wall. I only weighed about 120 lb. Carpet and drywall damage. I was young and knew I had really caused it but the men in the office had no clue. If you wear spikes get them repaired! And put a sign at the door, premises under video surveillance. |
All of the people above who noted that they always take their shoes off when visiting...How do I let you (my guest) know I do NOT want you to do that in my house??????? Ewwwwww..... |
- Posted by nosoccermom (My Page) on Sun, May 4, 14 at 7:54
Many guests take a cue from their hosts. I usually walk around on socks at home, so many guests assume that they also should take their shoes off. Either I tell them not to take their shoes of, or I put on shoes before guests arrive. If I'm caught unawares, I will put my shoes on in front of them. On the other hand, I don't really care. Whatever makes my guests happy. The only issue I once had was snowy weather outside with half the guests taking their shoes off, the other half not, and not quickly wiping up any melted snow. So the ones on socks got wet feet :( |
- Posted by Trebruchet (email@example.com) on Sun, May 4, 14 at 8:10
As a contractor, my crew and I are wearing work boots in your home as long as we are working there. This is not negotiable. We will put on covers, but if there's a lot of in-and-out, expect a bill for the time you added to the job if you didn't mention this requirement beforehand. |
I would never hire a contractor who expected to bill me extra for protecting my floors while working in my home. |
So wamot - can we get an update. You said you had 2 offers and were waiting for inspection reports. Did the inspection come out ok? Are you suing the showing agent? |
- Posted by detroit_burb (My Page) on Sun, May 4, 14 at 21:33
high heels with steel taps do dent oak floors, even 70 year old oak. I feel for you. In my first home, a friend came over in her slut stilettos and the house was covered in dents from these. |
- Posted by debrak2008 (My Page) on Mon, May 5, 14 at 14:04
redcurls....I assume you are you have greeted your guests at the door. If they start to bend down to remove shoes, immediately let them know they can keep them on. |
- Posted by Trebruchet (firstname.lastname@example.com) on Mon, May 5, 14 at 14:13
Jewel654: I'm not going to do things that take more time/money and not get paid. When I bid a job, I assume I can use the homeowner's electricity and water. If that's not cool, I can generate or bring my own, but that's gonna cost the homeowner extra. I assume I can walk on the floors without damage. If a homeowner wants floor protection, I'll put it in my bid. |
- Posted by Trebruchet (firstname.lastname@example.com) on Mon, May 5, 14 at 14:14
Jewel654: I'm not going to do things that take more time/money and not get paid. When I bid a job, I assume I can use the homeowner's electricity and water. If that's not cool, I can generate or bring my own, but that's gonna cost the homeowner extra. I assume I can walk on the floors without damage. If a homeowner wants floor protection, I'll put it in my bid. |
- Posted by wannabeGardnr (My Page) on Mon, May 5, 14 at 14:44
I am surprised so many people do not know that stiletto type heels can damage floors. Not just wood but can also crack other types. It creates too much pressure. Generally when you purchase flooring, it is mentioned in the warranty clause. |
How much more do you add to your bid, Trebruchet, to put down drop cloths or plastic runners? |
- Posted by andreak100 (My Page) on Mon, May 5, 14 at 17:01
Jewel - we paid for the rosen paper and hardboard that our contractor put down to protect our floors. We did it gladly. As for Trebruchet, he said before that they would put on covers (I'm assuming the disposable bootie covers that you can get), but if going in and out a lot, there would be time added. The people working on your home are selling a service...service is largely time based...and since there are only so many hours that a person can bill for, they need to recoup their money. I work in an industry where I wind up having to charge for my time - sometimes I have to travel to multiple locations...my clients pay me from the time I start until I finish, if it takes me 15 minutes to get to one location or an hour...they still pay me for that time. |
It would be a mistake, in my opinion, to tell a client that they'll pay extra to protect their floors from worker's shoes. |
Most people wear shoes which do not damage floors. There is something called cost of living and doing business! Are you planning to take your wooden flooring with you to the grave!! |
In my area, contractors, subs, everyone who works in my house...puts on booties. I totally get that workers need protection on their feet, but come on...do you really think you should track muddy boots through someone's clean home?? Wear covers! I would TOTALLY drop a contractor who charged me more for putting on covers. And I would demand correction if a contractor damaged my floors, stained my rugs, etc. |
Any contractors we have had always brought large drop cloths and spread them over the areas where they would be going in and out of the house. No extra charge. |
- Posted by marinastarbucks (My Page) on Mon, Jan 12, 15 at 14:57
I'm appalled at some of these comments. High Heels DAMAGE any kind of hardwood floor, no matter the quality or cost. High heels put more force on a small area than the foot of an elephant. It is 120 pounds of pressure on an eighth of an inch. It is basic physics, people. We bought a brand new house 2 years ago and our own realtor put damaging marks on the floors of the house we bought. Everytime I was around her, I had to ask her to remove her shoes but I know she went there on her own and obviously wore them as there are marks. It isn't a matter of "babying" your floors. It isn't a matter of "floors are meant to be used." High heels are not "normal" shoes and are very damaging. It is a matter of caring about what you own and taking good care of it. |
Venting here is one thing. Venting to a buyer's realtor is quite another thing! You don't want to get the reputation as "that difficult seller". Too late :-) |
Wow, there sure area lot of opinions about shoes on shoes off. As an agent, sometimes we are requested to remove shoes. Typically it is on meticulously clean homes. Most buyers don't mind, some grumble, but I have never had a buyer say they refuse to take their shoes off. It is the sellers home. They have the right to ask people to remove their shoes. When my children were babies and crawling around on the floor, no one was allowed to wear shoes in my house. I simply didn't want my babies crawling around in what was on the bottom of people's shoes, it could be anything! Being in thousands of homes in my career, I can tell you, I have seen floors that have been damaged because of a woman's high heel. There is no doubt about the mark. It looks like a nail head path of holes. It is from a heel where the little rubber thing has come off the shoe . Most people don't ask you to take shoes off because they are afraid you will damage the floors,they don't want the outside dirt on the floor. There are some cultures where it is a must. But the bottom line is,if there were signs and most likely this agent was told when making the appointment to please remove shoes, it should have been done. |
The poster requested people remove shoes, if they did not want to do so, they should have not entered the home.That said as others have mentioned, in our culture you will turn a lot of buyers/realtors off if you make a big deal over this. I am so sorry this happened. |
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