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"they must show realism in designing bail-outs that do not inflict unnecessary pain".
To tell the Finns to act like that is not realism.
In Finland they have something called "Sisu". That is something useful and healthy that many within EU can learn more about. It is related to finnish character. "Pain is just some weakness that leaves the body"
I think that many can learn from the northern behaviour.
Many might scream a bit but later they will be more than happy.
Let them eat (sardine) cake!
"Portugese government collapse set to endanger Eurozone"
The € is going to hell in a handcart.
Why not - for the sake of Portugal - do the decent thing by making the first move back to your old currency?
Soon you have no choice anyway. So salvage your considerable pride and encourage your countryfolk to make the first move.
Ah, the English and their self-made dramas.
First a word of condolences for the death of Baroness Thatcher, may she be remembered regardless of how much I actually disliked her, she was/is still an admirable woman and an example for us all.
Second, the Constitutional COurt. So what? What's the problem really?
a) Portugal is a sovereign country with a (Republican) Constitution.
b) The role of the Constitutional Court is to make sure the Constitution is upheld, including the principle that all citizens are equal under the law.
c) this was definitely not the case in some of the measures this government was implementing.
d) there is something like a 0.0000001% chance of the government collapsing since they hold majority at parliament and are backed by the President.
So there, now I hope this will be a good lesson for the current government, which seems to have forgotten what their mandate is.
They were elected to enact balanced cuts that could bring the country back to fiscal health, accompanied by growth, not discriminate against groups of citizens, so it's just about time they do just that.
It's what everyone expects them to do so this IS their golden opportunity.
It's always been like this in Portugal. There's always been a 'Constitutional' faction embodied by D. Pedro IV (Pedro I of Brazil) and an 'Anti-Constitutional' faction embodied by D. Miguel I, his brother. Things never really changed all that much.
As to currencies, I don't care much.
I've just recently acquired a Ceitil, which corresponds to 1/6th of the currency used at the time (15th century) which was called 'real'. They're selling quite a lot of those online these days thanks to the crisis, so time to revamp the coin collection inherited by grandpas. I need to organise them too.
So that my friend, is that.
I would also like to apologise, for a long time I thought it was you the one with multiple accounts. Now we all know who it is.
Does the EU have a mechanism for seeing the country for its people? Of giving the latter some help to make the former's reforms bearable? If not, or if folks in the North are too angry or shortsighted to see it, the EU is doomed.
" Had Finland gone through its recession within the euro, its pain would have been more intense. " Just making that statement doesn't make it true. In fact, the way Finland handled their crisis had nothing to do with debasing their currency, so the statement is patently false.
@ Sanmartinian:
In reply to your comment further below:
You apparently still haven't gotten over the fact that Accrux made public an email conversation between the two of you in which you repeatedly threatened him to make his whereabouts public if he continued to voice opinions (on your country, Portugal, and the euro) which you didn't like, and which was an eery reminder of an incident, a year and a half ago, when I was contacted by someone else within hours after I had forwarded you my email adress and which caused me to discontinue the conversation at once.
Incidentally, it was emmafinney who drew our attention to the fact that there was something fishy about your habit of asking for people's email addresses.
I don't know what is your problem, Mr. ASdM in Lisbon, but such practices guarantee you the disdain of any serious poster.
Try to make an intelligent contribution, and if you can't, you might as well look for another hobby. But don't think anybody is particularly impressed by these little silly games.
For the record: I'm posting under this one monicker only. I'm neither retired nor unemployed, but have a job to take care of and no patience for such silliness which regrettably has become the hallmark of your comments.
Economy, not geography, is destiny.
Put aside the dangerously simplistic north/side shorthand that the Economist insist on using in lieu of Balance of Payments analysis, and you will recall that (cross-border) creditors cannot be better than their debtors for long.
The Bundesbank and the other NCBs would do well focus on the core business of prudential regulation and reflect on esoteric issues such as regulatory failures and the moral hazard created by bailing out overextended and over-leveraged banks and cross-border speculative creditors,at the expense of local savers instead of populist studies about whether people are more or less house-rich and/or cash-poor in the various countries.
you are absolutely right as per usual. I would only replace 'The Economist' for 'Charlemagne' since it is in his column that people insist on this North/South divide.
Curiously, fellow bloggers of the Economist made quite a tongue-in-cheek take on the geography of Europe:
We should probably say welcome home England. :-)
(Welcome home Lord Wellington you haven't been forgotten.)
I guess you're missing the point here. The study was mandated by the ECB (not by the Bundesbank) to find out how private wealth is distributed in Eurozone countries. The NCBs did the necessary domestic research for the ECB. For the European Central Bank it is important to know whether it can accept a country's bonds to refinance their cash-stripped banks - or not.
What you tried to assign to them is usually not the NCBs "core business". This is/was the job of the national banking supervision authorities, which might be the NCB ... but more often is not.
Following the mistakes of the past, the supervising "core business" is done in Germany by BaFin, Germany's Federal Financial Supervisory Authority.
One of the main reasons that credit dried up in various EZ countries stems from the implementation of Basel III rules and from tougher cross-border lending regulations, exactly what you lament here as "not being done".
Regardless of which institution asked for the study ... we all know the conservatism of the Bundesbank. No one's doubting they're fulfilling their mandate, and acting according to what their mission is... but the study WAS criticised (including its methodology) and YOU know it.
So who cares who asked for it?
The Bundesbank survey is a part of a European-wide study about various characteristics of European households. These surveys are made by the national CBs in any Eurozone country based on the methodology of the Household Finance and Consumption Network (HFCN).
I don't see that there are any faults in the BuBa survey and you also haven't shown any. Instead of criticizing it because of the outcome and the nationality of the CB (however it is a survey of German households), the numbers (wealth distribution) in your country should be much mo9re interesting for you. Especially in the term of decision-making by Coelho about further spending cuts (however it is a wise policy in a recession) and the people who will have to shoulder the burden in Portugal.
Apologize for 'big-mouth'
No worries, I also apologise for some harsh remarks I may have made. It's my style.
I do agree with you but central banks should stray away from politics and behave as independent institutions with a mandate, which isn't , in theory, a political one. If said study from the Bundesbank is being used politically I do not think it is a good idea, or perhaps we should wait for all studies to be compiled so we can have an accurate picture of what truly is happening in Europe.
The most important thing is that a consensus is reached. Remember, united in diversity .
NOT pointing fingers. I was always taught by my mum that pointing fingers at someone was ugly.
Mum's are always right.
In the Economist, as in most media, the texts never go beyond what meets the eye. We never read or listen to a deeper analysis of why we got to this state.
As far as north-south relations go, the rich North (or the West as the advanced countries of the western hemisphere are collectively called) previously (before the 2000 era) tried to support the less developed Mediterranean countries in fear of them falling in communist hands, since the living conditions and political repression made those societies succeptible to communist ideas. Money poured in billions, but in most cases it was funneled into dubious, show-off works projects or into dubious populist policies in the form of farm subsidies and social entitelements.
Now that the game has turned around for the West and for the Club Med, we can no longer steal wealth form other parts of the world in order to sustain our very expensive lifestyles - the money traffic leads to the Tigers and Europe (and to the lesser extent America) will have to change economic model, become more competitive, cut down on holidays, entitlements and pensions and... WORK in real jobs, not behind desks and over lap-tops!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The German Bundesbank has published a study which clearly shows that Southern Europeans are a lot richer per capita than Germans, and which is said to be in line with a similar study by the ECB which is due to be published later this month (and whose publication has been postponed until AFTER the Cyprus bail-out, interestingly enough).
Even if it is taken into account that Germans and Southern Europeans save differently (the latter buy property, the Germans invest the biggest chunk of their savings in low-risk investment funds with very low returns, often below inflation), the conclusion of this study cannot be overlooked: Southern Europeans do not fund their states properly, even though they could, and instead expect Northern European/German taxpayers to foot the bill.
Joshua, today I was lectured by some sort of 'superman' with a brilliant 'super' logic that:
"The document doesn't take into account that very little Germans own their own apartments in comparison with other Europeans for instance.
But he then again, I shall wait for your irreproachable evidence that bundesbank's work wasn't completely biased. Other international institutions do reach completely different numbers.
The ball's on your side not mine.
I have a clean conscience."
*LOL* Oh my!!
Whoever resorts to ad hominem starts losing in my opinion, but beside the point I raised previously that it is true that most Germans do not own their own apartment as in without happens in Spain or Italy, and this might have twisted the numbers to the Bundesbank's own ideas, the data they used for Spain, for instance, when it comes to property market, is from 2008, before the housing market went bust.
There is a study sponsored by the UN which does more or less what the bundesbank did, and it doesn't reach the same conclusions.
So yeah laugh at will, it only proves you're unable to engage n civilised debate, because oh, the bundesbank is such a well reputed institution (argument from authority, yet another fallacy).
Two fallacies in an attempt at having an argument.
When will you learn the art of proper arguing, without resoriting to fallacies?
In without=it. Sorry
Just as a final remark, here are other institutions that measure family wealth and reach different conclusions : Eurostat, OCDE, Allianz.
But no, of course we can't dispute anything coming from the Bundesbank!! What a horrible blasphemy we shall all burn in hell for doing so....
The Bundesbank study started in 2008, so it's a flaw to use 2008 data?
Funny, that you're talking about engaging a civilised debate or debating by arguments. Where are your arguments?
So, once again Mr. 'super'pedro where are the flaws in the study? And what are the so different conclusions in the other studies?
'super' big-mouth, stop your clownish behaviour!
OK, as German I do not like some aspects of the used methodology: strictly speaking it was done a comparison of household values, not of per capita values, i.e. different household size which is IIRC larger in southern Europe (Hotel Mama) gives higher wealth. Therefore, the "clear" results are very likely less clear on a per capita base, add the devaluation of real estate in southern Europe after 2009 the study may have quite limited value for a discussion of affairs in 2013. :-)
Mr. "Super"(ahem) pedrolx2. You are the one in the accusing mode. You are accusing others: The Bundesbank for publishing an erroneous report, and other commentators in this debate for "resorting to fallacies". The ball is on YOU to prove your point. We're still waiting.
Big mouth strikes again!
(now I know how Joan of Arc felt, as the flames rose to her Roman nose and her hearing aid started to melt)
Ulenspiegel, pedro is accusing institutions of releasing misleading/false studies without arguing what's wrong with them, further on he's using made-up 'arguments'. That's the point.
BTW. all the mentioned studies are pointing to the same direction...
I already pointed out two flaws, and wasn't the only one. But just pretend I didn't.
It is pretty obvious that the Bundesbank is everything BUT unbiased on these matters. I'm not accusing anyone just saying that their study is flawed. You're the one taking it personally. Makes me wonder whether you work there or something.
And no, not all the mentioned studies point in the same direction.
It is difficult to argue with fundamentalists who are unable to discern honest debate from defending a political agenda. I am doing the former, whilst you are doing the latter.
That is what differentiates us.
I am deeply sorry that you are unable to see that
thank you for showing us that fundamentalism is not paradigm in Germany.
It is quite obvious that the Bundesbank is everythig but unbiased on these matters. Rather look up the studies from less biased institutions.
Of course I will be stoned to death by your fundamentalist fellow countrymen for saying the Bundesbank is unbiased but he I won't be the first nor the last martyr in History.
At least I know I fought for the truth and not for an agenda.
@ Ulenspiegel:
I agree with the latter of your reservations("add the devaluation of real estate in southern Europe after 2009"), but not with the former ("i.e. different household size which is IIRC larger in southern Europe (Hotel Mama) gives higher wealth").
If youngssters checked in at Hotel Mama until an unhealthy age of 25 (Spain/Portugal) or a desperate 30 (Italian males) were able to add to the household "wealth", they'd be living in their own appartments. If you have any doubts, try to remember how uncool it was when you couldn't take girls home because you were still living with your parents. LOL
@ el pulpo:
So that would be our old Pedrolx2, now starring as Super-Pedrolx2.
A troll's troll.
Someone please tell that super troll that you cannot dispute a claim without providing evidence (factual support).
Anyhow, in the absence of links to sources proving the Bundesbank's findings wrong, their conclusions stand.
Other than that, I suggest we all wait patiently until the ECB publishes its study on the issue later this month, and which are said to point in the same direction.
The Allianz study, many times cited here by sanmartinian to prove that "southerners are in deed more prudent" than northerners, came to the very same conclusion (otherwise sanmartinian couldn't have used it).
Also Banca d'Italia came - already 2008 - to the conclusion that (quote): "Italy shows a higher ratio of wealth to income than other countries. The share of real assets (real estate) in total gross wealth is higher than Germany's but lower than France's." (endquote)
OECD? UN? HDI? etc.
The allianz study only showed that distribution of wealth was evenly distributed with no clear distinction between North and South, which is the opposite of what the current study has made.
No, pedro, the Allianz study showed individual countries, but it only included 'financial assets', not houses and real estate.
yes ok details... I remember posting a very similar study a while back, and just can't be bothered to look it up.
We can think of several flaws in the document. First, East Germany is still incredibly poor in comparison with West Germany, which evens it out.
I thnk we're debating the sex of the angels here. I don't see why this study was given such attention. It is ONE study among many, the methodology of which WAS criticised, regardless of whether they were 'left wingers' or not. If you (not you specifically but some have) accuse them of being 'left wingers' then you are politicising the study, further giving ME reason to doubt its adequacy.
I admire your patience in debating someone who's trying to disprove a source while citing never-heard-of sources allegedly confirming his point of view, but who "cannot be bothered to look them up" when asked politely to produce them.
I mean, seriously... . What a joke.
In every court room of the civilized world, such silly argumentation would earn anybody a round of roaring laughter (and an instant dismissal of his or her claim).
Case closed.
Other than that, may I repeat my suggestion that we all wait patiently until the ECB will produce its study on the issue later this month? They are supposed to be impartial, aren't they?
Maybe someone should also tell that certain someone that East Germans are not "incredibly poor" by comparison to West Germans, but that their average wage is about 80-85 % of the average West German wage, and thus decidedly HIGHER than the average wage of the Portuguese.
(East) Germans simply fund their state better than the Portuguese.
Says the Bundesbank. Says any respectable institution that took a dig into that issue. And now let's see what the ECB has to say on the matter.
". . . we all wait patiently until the ECB will produce its study on the issue later this month? They are supposed to be impartial, aren't they?"
I don't believe that an institution which is run by majority interest can be "impartial" when the majority isn't impartial any more. This is why I believe, until I'm proven wrong, that the study will be swept under the rug - at least till after Germany's Federal elections.
France - wanted (wants) a European empire but cannot pay for it. Ran out of Germany's money.
Germany - Wanted to reunite and keep the D-mark - now the Euro is the new D-mark. Wants to integrate into a reformed Europe after Germany's image. Forgets that the EZ is to big to run a 5% trade surplus.
Netherlands, Slovakia - Get to pay up
Finland, Estonia - Pay up to stay out of the old bear's reach
Italy, Greece, Portugal - Thought they had been bought by the Franco-German empire. Discovered that they joined the D-mark and that Bundesbank is their CB.
Spain, Ireland, Cyprus - Thought there was a banking union.
Financial markets - read the Maastricht treaty, but forgot it after a few years. Assumed there was a banking union, a bailout union and that ECB could monetise debt.
US&UK - will not pay a dime or a penny, but wants Germany to stop resisting and just pay up. Stop thinking like a small country and do what big countries do and buy that empire.
Leave Portugal out of your sad little games. Thank you
Actually the USA, UK and not to mention Australians, Canadians, Brazilians and Indians have been contributing billions to IMF eurozone bailouts to save a currency they had nothing to do with creating.
Agreed. To save their own hides from the fallout of a euro crash no doubt. Particularly true for UK
Particularly true that you made a pretty sad analysis
I agree with the comments that the article is someway strange, not giving the answers.
But I shall notice that speculating what would Finns think/do, if they would face recession like 90's now with fixed currency rate, is nonsence. Finns have learned their lesson; havinng "little bit" austerity too in the 90's, have adjusted their non-diversified economy to the euro and have applied rules that have been commonly decided. It is some how strange to blame "north" that all countries haven't done the same (but another side is how in the earth they have been able to get so much credit). Anyway this is a mess, that is it more useful to speculate how this would have been avoided...and will be avoided in the (far) future.
I welcome you to demimonde some have grown to call Charlie's manger.
Nothing you see here is what it seems.
The sole purpose: to divide Europe
The sole mistake: Europe's already divided. (but not quite in the way they tell you it is)
A guy showed up in Texas all the way from North Carolina with a truckload of new furniture. "I'll sell it for anything;" he said. No takers. As old people are dying; their estates have more furniture to give away, than they have children that need it. It's fun and easy and there are many tools to make huge amounts of furniture with all around the world. But there are few consumers that need it!
Capitalism has won and the game is now over. What is capitalism's next move? Isn't it time to view capitalism as a means to get to this shore we have arrived on and to mature into a better society? We have a massive socializing looming reality in our faces. The first fool that raises his voice referencing "socialism" is an illiterate fool. I am not advocating the replacement of capitalism but the limitation and cultivation of it so that access to it requires demonstrable merit.
No thanks.
"and economists argue that crisis-era reforms laid the ground for strong recovery, best symbolised by the rise of Nokia, a mobile-phone maker."
Which economists? Nokia corporation was around a long time before the crises of the 1990's. The crisis-era "reforms" had nothing to do with it.
At least in Spain, people know very well that the top cause of our ruin is our corrupt political class (what Spaniards now call "the caste") and their greed.
I encourage Northern Europeans to read comments on Spanish newspapers to see that Spaniards are very much aware the origin of our problems.
Yeah we've seen all those 'Mea culpa, mea maxima culpa' happening on the streets of Madrid. Now the only thing left to do is a good old fashioned auto de fe. Voltaire (Candide) comes to mind .
you could then burn several heretics at the stake, for the glory of us all, as well as for the appeasement of the masses. Last but not least, for the pleasure of those in the 'North' (as defined by Charlemagne, and his entourage of bigots)
When will the economist do something about fake Reccomends ? It verges in between the ridiculous and the childish. ( and attracts 'children' as in adults who behave like them, thus lowering the quality of the debates)
I imagine its a spambot trial run. E.g. it does not post a message, but is checking it has automated access.
Let's be pragmatic here: As you can imagine, countries such as Spain, France or Italy (and probs even Germany) couldn't give a flying toss on what countries such as Finland or the Netherlands have to say.
I would therefore kindly invite these nations to leave the euro. Let them have their sardine-in-can cakes and wait till we see that they need the euro more than the euro needs them
bye bye ..
And what happened to the Pedro of we are one big happy family in the EU of days gone past?
Erm.. It's not the first time I utter these words
I still believe in the euro and the eurozone and the EU. Just happen to hate bigotry. It's my life's mission to battle against it whenever I see it.
"...on what countries such as Finland or the Netherlands have to say."
Unfortunately for the South, the Germans are listening to them. Both are 2 of their closed allies in the EZ.
But of course Spain, France or Italy might prefer not to listen. Results are known to everyone...
Aha, Pedro is on His Issue again.
Well, Pedro, last time I recall Portugal, in desperate need of money from us, making some pathetic videos to Finns "What Finland needs to know about Portugal".
I guess you don't understand that your insults might have more effect on influential people more that you could ever imagine. I'd guess - well let's say it this way Pedro, your sardines will find their way back into you.
Oh I am soo scared. I shan't sleep for days . You can have your sardine cakes. I prefer fresh sardines. The season's about to come ! Can't wait
You know mark hutt. My tirades are jokes t which you should be able to laugh. If you feel insulted by this imagine how millions of people have felt when the entire press, commentators, including you, we're using the acronym Piigs to refer to certain citizens. It isn't eye for eye tooth for tooth. It's your lack of sense of humour and your prejudice. I particularly enjoyed hearing yor Pm yesterday as he was here in Lisbon. You should learn diplomacy and temperance with him. Your emotional responses will have no effect on me. This hers mentality of influential people. For what? Making a joke about sardine cakes online? Lol. Mark hutt have a good weekend
Well, I don't take you seriously, that's for sure.
It's mind-boggling how PIIGS (in my experience the only exception are spanish, which I respect for that), who have been given hundreds of billions of real money - not some imaginary money - instead of saying "thank you for paying our bills", it turns into "you nazis" -mode. Simple "thank you" would be a start.
How Idle and idealistic thought from me, I mean straight and fair thinking has lost it's value, in EZ more than any other sorry place.
I'll say this again, Pedro, believe me your "sardines" will find their way back into you, where they came from, either upstairs or downstairs, it does not matter.
In other words, the euro bazaar in closed for you for now on.
Oh I'm so shattered about you having to get along on your own.
I think the article aptly sums up the current situation in Europe, muddled and unsure. Though, I disagree that we will see a repeat of the 'bail in.' Cyprus is a unique situation because it hold no leverage over its debtors. Greece on the other hand owes so much money that a default will cause a domino effect that will spread to other countries banking systems, putting added pressure on other weak economies, ie. Spain. As they say, if you owe the bank $1 million, they own you, but if you owe the bank $1 billion, you own the bank.
Greece will have to default. There is no way around.
"A child could have figured out that a monetary union without a cultural or even political one to support it, would function" should, of course be: "A child could have figured out that a monetary union without a cultural or even political one to support it, would NOT function".
A recent study shows that the Southern poverty mainly exists on state level, due to fiscal corruption among the rich there.
On average, private Italian, Spanish or Greek households tend to be much wealthier than German, Dutch or Finnish ones.
So, why should the North continue to pay for the mistakes that the South constantly makes? Life in the North is already much harder than in the South, due to the harsh physical climate, short harvest season, more work-related stress and a lonelier existence. The Southerners get many advantages for free concerning climate, diet, family life and easy work tempo, that Northerners can only dream of, and which cannot even be calculated in money terms. The Southerners can always enjoy their easier life, but if they want to get out of their relative poverty, they can learn to work hard and efficiently as the Northerners do, who should be allowed the right to keep their hard-earned wealth as the only buffer against a hard life.
The EURO blocks the way of devaluation, which is the best way for the South to remain competitive. A holiday in Turkey costs only 40% of a similar one in Greece, due to the EURO, and the service is often even better in the former.
Therefore: Let's split up the EURO or cancel it completely!
A child could have figured out that a monetary union without a cultural or even political one to support it, would function.
Only politicians ere so stupid not to (want to) realize this.
yeah that study was a load of bollocks, as several Germans themselves admitted.
Where does lie the North South divide?
When the Eurozone and the EU accept as a normal national member an Asiatic country of ancient civilization as Cyprus, but nevertheless with 3300 km2 occuppied by the Turks on the North and with 200 km2 occupied by the British Sovereign Base Areas on the South, there is something very strange. It is also strange that this Turkish occupation is used against Turkey membership of the EU, when Britain occupies also a part of Cyprus (besides Gibraltar, in another EU member State).
The occupation by Russia of parts of Georgia is evidently another matter, something completely agains International Law. Perhaps these strange standards could be explained using the fuzzy logic, but a single currency built using this will not stand, no matter how many trillions the ECB has in its bazooka.
pedroix2: This is your personal opinion, which is, as clearly an be read here, purely based on sentiments and nothing else more. Where are the verifiable facts, articles and/or statistics that confirm your statement? Simply calling any info you don't like for "bullocks" won't do at a serious forum like this one. Sorry.
Mr. Coelho: I really don't see the connection of your comment to the article or to my comment. You only mention several diverse historic and political issues, which have nothing to do directly with the topic debated here, and then exclaim your personal (and unfounded) opinion about them, while avoiding mentioning anything concerning the relevant topic, nor meeting my comment with any sensible argument.
So, what do you want to say?
sentiments or facts? Are you judging me? The news I've read said that the Bundesbank was heavily criticised for that study they made.
pedrolx wrote: "Are you judging me?" Oh, man, what a childish reaction. I only doubt the existence of your source, as you cannot mention any. The Bundesbank "was heavily criticized". By whom? And with what arguments? If you only escape into the passive voice, how can any one take your statements seriously?
you are judging me saying I'm being sentimental. Where are YOUR sources?
Why should I give you mine if you don't give me yours.
The press release I read said there were many flaws in the bundesbank's analysis, and many of these flaws were criticised by other german institutions. I presume, from the fact that you are writing on this blog, that you have internet access.
So I hereby welcome you to the realm of the Internet, where everything's at a click's reach. I'm pretty sure you can find the sources if you look them up.
I am not your slave.
"flaws in the bundesbank's analysis, and many of these flaws were criticised by other german institutions."
The Bundesbank analysis was not criticised by other institutions because of flaws in their study, but because of the political incorrectness. Other studies show the same results and comparable numbers.
But, if you've found any flaws in this study, feel free to post them or the sources.
And yes, I don't expect a reply...
Well you're the ones asking for evidence. As you can imagine, if you are the ones accusing someone else of lying, you're the ones who need to provide the evidence not the other way around. I'm sure Habeas Corpus has reached Germany by now.
The document doesn't take into account that very little Germans own their own apartments in comparison with other Europeans for instance.
But he then again, I shall wait for your irreproachable evidence that bundesbank's work wasn't completely biased. Other international institutions do reach completely different numbers.
The ball's on your side not mine.
I have a clean conscience.
Look, Pedro. I don't accuse anybody of being anything.
The Bundesbank is a world-wide respected institution with a high reputation. If you accuse them of releasing false/misleading studies then YOU are the one to show us what's wrong with them. Not the other way round!
"The document doesn't take into account that very little Germans own their own apartments in comparison with other Europeans for instance."
Oh come on, Pedro! You've just made up this one!
The Bundesbank study was almost criticized by left-wing politicians and one (left-wing) institution. They criticism was mainly about
- they claimed that the study was not accurate, because the BuBa didn't consider the effects of the German reunification (whatever that means -lol)
- and they claimed all southern house prices were overestimated because of the mortgage crisis (lol)
one citiation with source:
"The last three years have seen a continual increase in the number of families owning their own homes. In Italy this figure stands at 82%, while the percentages are considerably lower in other European countries: in the U.K. it reaches around 70%, in France it is almost 60% and in Germany it is 45%.
In 2010, Italian families' net assets after debts amounted to around 2,700 billion Euros, which is the equivalent of 175% of Italy's GDP.
This proportion is the highest to be found in the eurozone, where the Netherlands record a figure of 165.7%, in France it is 131.5 and in Germany 125.2%, while in Spain it is equal to 77.5% of the country's GDP"
cited from "Italy 2011. Social Picture and Trends." Page 28
Pedro, please don't treat other commentators like idiots.
Best regards
"as several Germans themselves admitted..."
What Germans? Those from your specific dimension (aka wishful thinking)?
That study was not criticized here (in Germany!).
Excluding the obvious left-wingers of course (who comment on anything they haven't read).
The answer here is default. Southern countries need to default, explicitly, on their debts. There is no need for bail-outs, bail-ins or any other form of bailing.
"But won't that mean a country will exit from the Euro?" I hear you say.
NO, NO IT WON'T. I have never gotten a good explanation FROM ANYONE about why one leads to the other. For example, if Ecuador defaults on its government bonds, does that mean it cannot continue to use dollars as its currency? NO, NO IT DOES NOT. Ecuador may no longer be able to borrow money (in dollars, Ecuadorian Zingots, united flight miles, or safaricom minutes) but it can still use a currency of its choosing!
So enough with all the B.S. Lets accept that some countries are insolvent and need to default, and that doing so is in their best interest and the best interest of the Eurozone's population as a whole.
You have missed the fundamental roots of this crisis in the first place. Basel rules have required banks, pension funds, et la., to hold 'safe' investments as collateral. The rule makers of course made sure that their countries debts were engendered with special protections, overstating their safety and forcing institutional money to flow towards the government coffers. Now this brilliant plan has backfired. Solvent countries have a diseased banking system that survives on the fiction of sound government debt. Were Greece to default it would cause a coalescing collapse of weak banks in Spain, Italy, France, which would then spread to the broader European economy. The simple truth is that Brussels, and its enablers, continue to bail out the insolvent countries in order to cover up the instability of their banking system.
Yes, I understand that. I am suggesting that the answer is an explicit bail-out of German banks by German tax-payers instead of this farce where German taxpayers are mislead by German Politicians that profligate Italians are getting bailouts and Italian/Greek/Spanish tax payers are being told to suffer through a depression to pay German's their pensions.
The way, the only way to get an explicit bail-out of German banks by German tax payers, is an explicit default by the debtor governments.
What's the difference between South and North European:
In times of need, the North Europeans resort to JFDI instead of complaining and scapegoating.
And they do not ask for solidarity.
Hilf dir selbst, so hilft dir Gott.:-)
" Hilf dir selbst, so hilft dir Gott.:-)"
In English we say " God helps those who help themselves".
I wonder if there is a similar saying in the countries in question?. Or it is just a mantra : give me, give me, give me, give me... ad infinitum. ;-)
of course we don't. We don't even have a language, it's just gibberish and grunting. You might as well start considering building concentration camps and putting everyone from Southern Europe there (please define the term btw) to forced labour and show them how one day 'hard work will set them free'.
If only the Germans or the English knew what hard work is. I invite you to spend 10 days in a poor neighbourhood of Porto or Lisbon. You'd leave from there in tears. Most Germans and Most Englanders are nothing but spoiled bratts in comparison with their Portuguese counterparts. I do wonder how you don't see that, but he, that isn't my problem - it's yours.
Thank you for having illustrated MehrAlsSinnLos' point about complaining and scapegoating; as opposed to JFDI...
In Portugal we call it 'eye for eye, tooth for tooth' I wonder if you have an equivalent. We also have the roto e esfarrapado which is the one you have about the pot calling the kettle...
I mean what were you doing - but scapegoating and moaning in the first place? Re-read yourself.
And I unlike you don't claim to represent everyone from my country. I represent myself , on good days. You n the other hand think you can represent 300 million (?) people. Talk about moanin and scapegoating . Like I told you - live on an average Portuguese wage for 10 months, working as much as they do, then come back. Hopefully a different man, humbler, and with a greater sense of justice, rather than a scapegoating m oaner on Internet blogs. Where you writing from? Your bed?
"live on an average Portuguese wage for 10 months, working as much as they do, then come back".
pedrolx2, I understand what you're saying, but it's still the result of poor economical and political leadership in Portugal. Isn't it?
No, I speak for one, and only one, person: myself. And I say you are full of it.
" The keenest sorrow is to recognize ourselves as the sole cause of all our adversities."
When, if ever, you understand that, you'll be on your way to a better future; but not before that... Over and out.
Can't answer for Southern Italians, but all Northern Italy share the saying: "Aiutati che il ciel ti aiuta", "Help yourself and Heaven will help". A Northern Italian state would be as rich as Bavaria or Holland and the ethic in work is quite the same: few words and a lot of action. Without italian entrepreneurs, most of them Northerners, who keep on fighting, exporting and rowing upstream against all red tapes and crazy conditions like we have in Italy, the country would already be sunk in a greek disaster.
Poor leadership exists everywhere, and I think it is partly true, but we've come a long way since the war ended in 74.
It is also a bad leadership from the EU . I don't point fingers. And already explained this a billion times. I refuse to play an blame game. I'm just displeased with all this moaning and scapegoating of 'southern Europeans' whatever that means, when we all know this crisis resulted from mismanagement of capital markets and risk, floppy globalisation, and 'giving the hot potato' as we say in Portugal to the middle class. Let them pay! This is a European wide phenomenon and not circumscript to 3 or 4 nations.
Oh of course, elevate the speech with a quote from an Ancient Greek philosopher.
I am hereby defeated. I be too dumb (because of my 'race') to understand such things, but you, who hail from such a noble, virtuous race of demigods, how can you NOT understand?
There's a Portuguese woman I know, she works sometimes 7-22 h day shifts cleaning appartments around Lisbon (sometimes making more than 100kms/day) to pay for her daughters's studies and her husbands half-disability. She also finds the time to study at night, when her shifts allow her to do so (she's 45-50!) She just had her first exams and wants to make a better life.
I'd 'like' to see whether the likes of you would have the courage to look into this woman's face and tell her it's HER fault, flog her, and burn her at the stake.
Afterall she's nothing but a lazy 'Southerner' (you still have to explain what that means by the way)
My proposal for you is: Create a big wall divinding both 'South' and 'North' then ask the good ol' US of A to nuke them (or France).
My proposal for you is: Create a big wall divinding both 'South' and 'North' then ask the good ol' US of A to nuke them (or France).
By the way la v. Funny that you'd write pages upon pages on how Germany was never mismanaged in the past, yet suggest Portugal might have been mismanaged. That's flawed reasoning.
My opinion - the entire world was mismanaged, starting with badly sketched economic and political theories that based themselves on bad premises. We're all paying for that mistake. The deification of money and the market for instance. Forgetting that economics has a human side, for instance.
Trying to make economics a hard science is what led us to this point. It has nothing to do with North or South (still waiting for the definition btw) but with a series of mistakes made on a global scale. It is evident for anyone with more than half a brain.
There is no 'EU' leadership which is allowed to interfere in a member state's budget or financial handlings . . . at least not before a country seeks EU bailout.
in theory no, albeit there is a Stability and Growth Pact
which has to be handed to the Commission which is basically a sketch of that country's budget for the following year . Doesn't invalidate what I said in both my replies to you
The barn door [the renewed Stability and Growth Pact] was closed after the horses had already escaped ... and the pact is a 'toothless tiger' anyway; it's not or only poorly enforced.
"..considering building concentration camps..."
Not a bad idea per se. We might be looking for Lebensraum in the warm and sunny South soon.
And you definitely are easier prey than the Russians.:-)
"... to nuke them ..."
I really start to love your positive thinking and ideas. It could be so easy to resolve all issues in the South. Just purge the "problems".
BTW, please ensure that they use an H-Bomb. We (the North) can then rent the house after the "Great Cleansing" event to our elderly. .... :-)
"I am hereby defeated. "
Yes, you are. Just like the Portuguese army in WW1.:-)
Agreed. But it doesn't invalidate my two previous posts either. In fact, it reinforces them, since everyone (or almost everyone) has let the dogs out. So to speak. Farcical.
To understand what's wrong with the South read tis article about Italian Academics working in Germany:
Summary for the busy executive:
- better paid jobs than in Italy
- they get social welfare support they wouldn't get in Italy
- they do not speak German or proper English
- they still complain that Germans behave like Germans
in Germany
Whiny bunch of l**sers...
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Jazz and New American Music composer, pianist and recording artist Claire Ritter is a rare Charlotte native who has studied piano and composition with top figures in the world of contemporary jazz.
Ritter, 60, worked with Ziggy Hurwitz during her teenage years, and later at Duke University with jazz great Mary Lou Williams.
She founded Zoning records in 1987, named after an album by her former teacher: Williams has released numerous CD recordings.
Her latest project, Claire Ritter & Friends, will be released this winter. Its a DVD of her recent performance at the Cambridge Multicultural Arts Center, where she was joined by Stan Strickland, Dominique Eade and Takaaki Masuko.
Ritter works with 15 to 20 students, all doing improvisation, composition or both.
Evaluating prospective students: Im most interested in working with students who show potential, aptitude, imagination and rhythm. I find a big correlation between harmony and melodic ideas with students who are good at visualizing the concepts I work with them on.
On seeing students excel: There is a tremendous amount of joy. I see a piece of me that is invested in the process and the transfer of knowledge thats been transferred to me. It carries forward and is very satisfying.
Her influences: To have worked with Ziggy as a young person was fascinating; he was such a colorful character and he was so imaginative. It was a very different level for me and I learned to chart and notate; it was a turning point for me. Working with Mary Lou late in her career was special and inspiring.
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However, get of your butt and go to the grocery store and pharmacy with your hubby, and do some kind of volunteer work again. I cannot work, but I can do an hour a week of volunteer work. It makes me part of my community. It gives me more to talk about. Seeing other people is good for me.
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Many of us with professional licenses must take continuing education hours to re-license. I am an RN and I must do so in the state in which I am licensed. I had to take an 8 hour class on Pain Management a few years ago. I also must take other classes to make a total of 20 hours every two years. It is really no big deal. They are not expensive either. Especially if you do them on line or by mail. We SHOULD be required to update our education.
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Over the counter pain meds can be dangerous, and should not be taken for more that a couple of weeks at the dose that is quoted on the label unless one sees their doctor and he has told them it is okay. You have a prescription, so you have seen your doctor. Many people have not done that. They start out with 800 mg. of ibuprofen and they may only need 200 mg. They have heard from many folks that the amount on the OTC label is too low and start out really high.
My husband switched from ibuprofen to a generic of Aleve, and had black stools within several months. He did not connect it but I did and tossed it out. His doctor was glad when he discussed it later with him. His doctor told him to never take ibuprofen or naprosyn or any other NSAID.
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This recipe tastes earthy and healthy. I like the combination of spices. I will be serving this to increase our vitamin/fiber/protein intake.
Kale, Tomato and White Bean Saute
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- 1 shallot minced
- 2 teaspoon(s) garlic minced
- 2 teaspoon(s) fresh rosemary finely chopped
- 1 teaspoon(s) smoked paprika
- 1/4 teaspoon(s) salt
- 6 cup(s) chopped kale leaves, stems removed about 3/4-1 lb
- 2/3 cup(s) low sodium chicken broth
- 1 15.5 oz can white cannellini beans rinsed and drained
- 1 14.5 oz can fire roasted tomatoes
- 2 tablespoon(s) roasted salted sunflower seeds
- 2 teaspoon(s) olive oil
- Heat oil in large nonstick skillet over medium heat. Add shallot, garlic, rosemary, paprika, and salt. Cook, stirring occasionally, until shallot is softened, about 3 minutes. Add broth and stir to combine. Then add kale, cover and cook for 6 minutes, stirring occasionally.
- Stir bean and tomatoes into kale. (If using browned meat, add at this time). Cover and cook for 5 minutes.
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And Kate's Must Have Cardigan is done!
A fun knit, and wasn't actually a lot of work when I was focused on it.
I'm in two minds about the length… It seemed very short, and I would have made it longer if I'd had more yarn. I bought the yarn so long ago that there was no hope of matching the dye lot. But now it's done, I'm very pleased with the length.
There is only one button on it for now, since I haven't found precisely the right buttons. I've got my heart set on those classic leather buttons…
Jillian is knitting along on her third of six Knitty projects for the the year, Groove by Stephen West:
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Four Great Novels That Can Be Called Post-Multicultural (Or Not)
Jeff Chang has spent the better part of his adult life analyzing and chronicling the role of race in America. The result is Who We Be, a compendium of essays, photos, lyrics, and other snippets that define, well, Who We Be. Here's how he puts his thoughts in the book (below). And here is Chang's list, exclusively for Amazon customers, on further reading on related topics.
When the legendary curator Thelma Golden wanted to name the generation of Black contemporary artists who came of age around the turn of the millennium, she jokingly called them "Post-Black," as in post-civil rights, post-Black Arts, and as she put it, "post-Basquiat and post-Biggie." Writers of that generation—you might call even call them part of the hip-hop generation—shared lots of things with Golden's visual artists. They were no less concerned than previous artists with legacies of race and racism, but they had a different relationship to identity. Their elders had dealt with invisibility. They were dealing with visibility. They were writing for audiences who knew all about affirmative action, diversity trainings, and "political correctness"—but were just as stumped at how to forge racial progress. These audiences knew what not to say to each other, but not what to say next. These novels capture the difficulty—and, just as often, the absurd hilarity—of the post-multicultural, post-whatever, post-post era we are living through.
- The White-Boy Shuffle—Paul Beatty
- Angry Black White Boy—Adam Mansbach
- Americanah—Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie
- Long Division—Kiese Laymon
Identity in the New Millennium
But if I have to choose between
I choose me
—Erykah Badu, "Me", New Amerykah Part One: (4th World War)
There was a joke that was everywhere at the turn of the millennium. It had started long before, among high-school friends, back when the saying was, "It's a Black thing, you wouldn't understand." But this post-"Black thing" thing was much smaller than that, even more impenetrable, a sub-tribal sign.
The joke had begun with a group of Black guys at a diverse high school in West Philly. It first surfaced in a two-and-a-half minute film short Stone had made with some of those same friends, called True.
It opens with a shot of Stone lying on the couch watching a football game. The cordless rings and it's his friend Paul, lying on his own couch watching a kung-fu flick.
"'Sup with you?"
"Nuttin' man, just chillin'."
"True, true."
The other characters don't do much either: Dookie draws comic book characters, Fred picks up the phone and buzzes his friend Porto Rock into the apartment. The dialogue amounts to maybe a dozen words, the most meaningful of which is simply "Wazzzaaaaauuuuuup?!" When each says it, he stretches out the "aaauuuuuuuuh," wags his tongue, bobs his head, improvises his own stupid faces in his own way.
By the end, Paul has changed the channel to the game, and he and Charles watch together, still having a non-conversation conversation.
"So what's goin' on, B?"
"Chillin'. 'Sup with you?"
"Nuttin man, just chillin'."
And that was it—a group of Black men at rest, not called upon to perform, just being who they be. The short was like what an anthropologist might call "thick description," what a psychologist might call "the opposite of micro-aggression," what a comedian might call great material. Years later, when director/actor Charles Stone III's Whassup? commercial for Budweiser debuted in the 2000 Super Bowl, it seemed that millions were let in on the joke, too.
Multiculturalism had allowed artists of color to toy with the possibility of no longer having to play a role already scripted for them. After multiculturalism, they might move beyond the aesthetics of uplift and respectability, be freed from the burden of representing positivity or confirming oppression. They could aspire just to be. They might still choose to represent identity, race, difference, and inequality. But they wanted to consider it a choice.
"Individuality," wrote the philosopher Kwame Anthony Appiah wrote in his 2005 post-multiculturalism book The Ethics of Identity, "is not so much a state to be achieved as a mode of life to be pursued."1
Stone had been a music-video director, making videos like A Tribe Called Quest's Bonita Applebum and The Roots's What They Do that had slyly subverted Black male stereotypes. By the late 1990s the industry was changing. This short was Stone's bid for new work. He knew he had something good, so he took his time. He spent two years writing it, and one more to shoot and finish the edit. He debuted True at a music video short festival in the summer of 1999.
An Irish-born-and-raised copywriter at agency DDB Chicago named Vinny Warren spotted True at a festival and brought it to Budweiser. Stone had worried about how the ad would play in the real world. "When people do it and do it badly, it's like some old Blaxploitation shit, like straight-up minstrel," he said.
"True" required context and specificity to work. Saying "Wazzzaaaaauuuuuup?!" to each other was an act of recognition. I see you. You and I are together in this moment. The ad had to be made by a Black director featuring an all-Black cast. Stone knew there would still be objections that his concept was "niche market." Warren's Irishness, his foreign-ness, Stone felt, allowed him to understand the nuances and see the big picture.
They still needed to pitch the concept to all the confused marketers, casting agents, and execs. In those sessions, Stone decided to describe it in gendered terms. "Look, it's really simple. It's men holding hands through the phone," he would tell them. "It talks about that wonderful nothingness that men do that is actually quite complicated."
One day DDB execs told Stone they wanted to try out a "multicultural" cast. By this, they meant that they wanted to try white actors. Maybe it was progress that whites could now see themselves in the "multicultural" thing. But wasn't that still kind of missing the point?
On the last day of casting, Stone and Warren asked to bring back four of the five actors from the original True cast, just to compare them to the "multicultural" cast. Stone recalled, "Sure enough, they were like, 'What are we doing? We should just stay with the original cast.'"
And so Stone turned up the lighting, put bottles of Bud in each character's hands, and further slashed an already haiku-length script into what would become the commercial called Whassup? At the end the word "true" rested over a Budweiser logo. Six months later, he and his homies were partying in Cannes after receiving the Grand Prix, the global ad industry's top award.
Fred Thomas—Stone's old buddy turned international star—told a British reporter, "It was strictly our thing. Strictly our clique.2 It never went all over Philadelphia. Now the whole world is part of our clique." One of the Cannes judges agreed, "It's not just an ad campaign, it's a movement."3 Who in the history of advertising could have predicted that a sixty-second spot featuring a group of bored Black males would become the first globally viral ad of the millennium?
The joke among friends had become a joke shared around the world. But what was the world seeing?
1Kwame Anthony Appiah, The Ethics of Identity (Princeton University Press, 2005), 5.
2Simon Hattenstone, "Whassup?",Guardian, October 25, 2000, http://www.theguardian.com/print/0,,4081177-103680,00.html.
3Michael McCarthy, "Budweiser's 'Whassup?!' TV Ads Claim Grand Prix in Cannes," USA Today, June 26, 2000.


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People have told me you will need to save you mission because they will not be transfer to the Holodeck. With everything getting sever to the sever how do you save a file/mission? How do I back it up so it is saved?
A text file with the information. You can copy/paste text, but for other things...
I was planning to just hand draw each box in order ona big notepad, like a movie storyboard, and write in what goes in each. As soon as the Foundry comes back online anyway.
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If a workstation is configured to use this as the DNS service, any attempt to reach a suspected malicious host gets redirected to the SafeDNS server itself. Web requests from the workstation will go here: http://safedns1.security.isc.upenn.edu/ instead of to a malicious host.
Only the information necessary to run or support the service is logged. For example, even though all DNS requests go to the server, the requests themselves (e.g. for www.google.com) are not logged.
The SafeDNS service reduces the likelihood that a computer will be compromised through web browsing. The service does this by tracking web sites known to be the source of malicious content. If the computer attempts to reach such a site in the course of web browsing or other activity, the service will redirect the computer to a safe location. In the course of providing this service, certain information is tracked for the purpose of measuring effectiveness. The information tracked includes the IP address of the subscribed computer and the time of the activity. The initial site (from which the computer was directed to the malicious site) is also recorded, but without information that would link the subscribed computer to the initial site. If malicious activity is being logged from your device, your LSP may be contacting you to discuss remediation steps.
Last updated: Monday, August 25, 2014


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White hardwood
This was a fun project. We couldn't find the exact table that we wanted in the stores. I took the standard farm table on Ana's website and added 1/4 corner trim which finished off the edges nicely. I finished it with minwax cedar stain and we have been enjoying it ever since.
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Weekend Project (10-20 Hours)
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