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I have read a lot of postings and want thank all the regulars who reply with such valuable information. My local water treatment professional suggested two products: Puregen Eco-Twin Whole House System and a Fleck 7000SXT 2.0. I could not find much information on the Puregen and I would appreciate some advice on what to purchase.
I had 4 professionals come out to quote my needs: Kinetico, 2 locals, and Lifesource carbon filter. Local #2 gave me two quotes. Quote 1 below, then I asked the below question and received Quote 2: Quote #1: Fleck 7000SXT 2.0, Watts RO Unit (to fridge), extra pipe installed for $2200. (incl. tax). Quote #2: EcoTwin 7000SXT with 2.0 Cubic feet GAC, 2.5 CF Resin, Watts RO (to fridge). $2700. (incl. tax)
(http://www.puregen.com/products_category.php?rows_page=2&CID=19&lang=en) About my water:
2 adults, 3 kids: The little kids dont use much now but I want to plan for an increase in usage. We get extended visitors a few times per year. 1" pipes at my main. The house is on a raised foundation. I must run 30 ft pipe from main to side of house for install of unit and back for about 60-70 ft copper piping to be used. (Garage at rear of property, hose bib is at front of house) Bathtub water will dispense at 1 gallon in 14 seconds with hot and cold open. The other fixtures have a lower flow rate. Calcium: 47.0 mg/L, Copper 0.022 mg/L, Magnesium: 17.83 mg/L, Potassium: 3.7 mg/L
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Here I posted the quotes from the other vendors as a reference for others. I know that I found it helpful to get and understanding of the costs associated with water treatment systems. The other quotes I received were: 1. Lifesource (Ugg, before I did any research and learned they are just a $3500 carbon filter and I want softerner) Kinetico quoted $5,995 (incl. tax) for: Mach 2030 conditioner, 1030 Upflow dechlor unit, K-5 RO drinking station (connected to refrigerator), designer faucet and one salt pack. He did say he could probably get me the home expo special of $500 off, so assuming $5,495. Local #1 quote: $7,144 (incl. tax) for the following (all private labeled equipment but he mentioned a "7000 valve") 1. Commercial Backwashing Carbon Filtration System with 1.5" control valve connections. Timer Initiated regeneration. System flow rate 46 Gallons per Minute 2. Commercial Water Softening System with 1.5" control valve connections. System complete with brine tank and tank overflow assembly. Demand Initiated regeneration. System flow rate 46 Gallons per Minute. 3. Reverse Osmosis System, connected to refrigerator |
FWIW, I've had Kinetico softener and RO at two locations for twenty years. If buying again tomorrow, I'd pay their price and do it again. I am not DIY guy with this kind of thing. They did everything. I did nothing. All of their stuff has been excellent for me and their local reps have been great. I've posted here quite a bit over the years. Search function will bring up many of my previous comments/opinions on the units. |
@ asolo: Thank you. I have read your posts. I must admit, I am tempted by the Kinetico products because of a lot of positive user testimonies. Buy it and forget about it seems to be the norm. I am wrestling with some basic fundamentals brought up in these forums that have me unable to make a decision: (my summaries are in italic, not actual quotes) 2. Value or ROI. Do I really have to wait 20 years to "break even" between the costs of buying 1 Kinetico system and hoping it lasts 20 years Vs buying two industry standard systems? (assuming Ill get 10 years of serving from the products) Even if my numbers are +/-, do you get my thought process? 3. Soft water is Soft water. RO water is RO water. Am I thinking about this purchase in the right way? Part of the reason I started this thread was to have other people more educated on this subject to push me towards one of the two options offered by my local professional or towards Kinetico. I do see a lot of technical posts about pounds of salt, regeneration cycles, under/over sized, programing the unit,etc. around industry standard products and not so much with the Kinetico products. To others reading this post, if cost were taken out of the equation, which system would you purchase? |
Your points are ALL valid. My hot-buttons, basically, are that I have money but I don't have time.....no time for DIY and no time for problems. The Kinetico folks where I live held up their end of the deal. The equipment is top-notch and their install guys are, too. But, yes, I am "married" to them. All I can say is that it's been a pleasant marriage. In terms of function, I am going chime in about the RO system. Their K5W version has an advantage that has really impressed me. The holding tank works from line pressure and refills with zero back-pressure. What that does in-use everyday is provide full-pressure flow from the spigot from full-to-empty and allows complete re-fill from empty in under an hour. The tank is 2.7 gallons. At my 65psi line pressure, it flows 1.2gpm. The convenience compared to previous systems is very pleasing. Like all their stuff, the K5W, too, is at or near the top expense-wise. But, like their softeners, it does what it's represented to do and doesn't break or need any attention. Well, OK, filter changes....but those 1/4-turn cartridges are pretty slick. Change-out of pre and post cartridges takes me about two minutes about once a year -- which is about how often the 500-gallon limit switch kicks over. Although I regard anything above 90% exclusion ratio acceptable, both of my units deliver 97-99% |
Yes, I am posting to my own thread again.. I dont know how to link to another thread in Gardenweb/Home/Plumbing forum, but here is one that I like for the advice but worried about the quote from Kinetico. The price quoted to them was: The price quoted to me was $5995. Many of the regulars to the water softener forums were in favor of Kinetico in that other thread which makes me want Kinetico but $2050 more than another Kinetico quote? |
FYI....I paid $3395 for the 4040 unit and $1150 for the K5W two years ago. Both of those numbers were AFTER $500.00 discounts due to promotion they were running to change out their old equipment for the latest/greatest. If I was buying new (no trade-out) I would have paid full pop....$3895 + $1595. All of the old equipment was working to spec after 18 years but I thought I could see "the day" coming and responded to the promotion. I am not personally familiar with the equipment you've been quoted so can't comment. I have seen personally and read frequently that the Kinetico folks don't deal. You pay their price or you buy something else. Unlike many other products I've paid top-dollar for, the Kinetico equipment and their people where I live performed wonderfully. Yeah, I gritted my teeth when I wrote the check, but I've been satisfied every day with every bit of what they did. They seem to understand what's expected when they're charging what they charge. Apparently that's the market they want and none other. |
- Posted by justalurker (My Page) on Thu, Jun 21, 12 at 20:52
The best anything is worthless if you can't get it repaired or serviced or get parts or tech info for it. Not wanting to be a DIYer is an important consideration, BUT if you can get parts and tech info you can help yourself IF you have to. If you have a bad dealer or piss them off you're screwed because the manufacturer won't help you. There seems to be someone just about everywhere that services Fleck control valves. ",,, if cost were taken out of the equation, which system would you purchase?" A correctly sized and set for efficiency industry standard softener is easily repaired and serviced and will last as long as any proprietary design if one does routine minimal maintenance. A Fleck twin resin tank softener will last as long as any other twin with a far lower buy in and it regenerates with soft water. Carbon tanks over resin tanks is NOT industry standard. If you think you want carbon (and that's a whole nuther discussion) then a separate backwashing carbon filter is the way to go. Asolo is right on the money about the Kinetico K5 RO. The WOW feature is really cool, but IMO the high cost and needing proprietary filters drops it from my list to own... unless Asolo will ship me one of his when the next zoot capri Kinetico is available RO units made from American components and assembled in the US abound at reasonable prices and filters can be had at HD, Lowes, or even Walmart. I have a 16 year old Alamo RO that has a 98% rejection rate and just works. |
@Asolo. Thank you. @justalurker: Thank you. Would a twin tank water softener be "too much" for my usage? I mean, could I harm it by under utilizing it? I like the concept enough to pay a little more for the twin tanks,not for the salt and water savings, but it just seems to be an efficient design and for the times that I have a house full of long term guests, I want to ensure I have soft water. I will search these forums for some carbon backwashing filters now. I know I saw some advertised at Pelican and other web sites. |
If one has knowledge, skill, and time -- or the ability to obtain them -- there certainly are many more options than if you don't or can't. Moving up a tier, if you have good, competent local dealers there are more options than if you don't. I've learned justalurker's a smart fellow. I agree with everything he said here. Just hope he's not staying up late thinking I'm going to ship him anything. : ) |
- Posted by justalurker (My Page) on Thu, Jun 21, 12 at 22:12
Regenerating with soft water is a big plus when you have iron and/or manganese... and you don't. With a single resin tank softener there is less mechanical complication and the only time you don't have soft water is during regeneration at 2AM that night (morning?) every 6 or 7 days if the softener is sized correctly. Looking at the #s you posted a 1.5 cube softener with a Fleck 7000SXT would do nicely and give you 12gpm SFR. Online price about $575 delivered but you'd assemble and install yourself. Your resin should last 10-15 years easy. If you filter the chlorine then your entire internal plumbing system is unprotected. An RO for drinking, cooking, and ice making will deal with the chlorine. So, $575 for a softener and $200-$300 for a quality RO, and add a few hundred for installation and you'll spend about $1200 max... tell your locals to sharpen their pencils. Psst... you can go to Costco or Sam's Club and buy Watts ROs for under $200. Just DON'T use the saddle valve they come with. @Asolo... we both know that when Kinetico comes out with a new RO you'll be first in line. Think of it... 100% rejection! |
@Justalurker: Thank you. RE: If you filter the chlorine then your entire internal plumbing system is unprotected. Are you referring to potential bacterial growth in the internal plumbing? And what tool do you use to measure the rejection you are referencing in RO systems? And are the small, pocket size water hardness testers good enough to periodically check the water? |
- Posted by justalurker (My Page) on Thu, Jun 21, 12 at 22:38
"Are you referring to potential bacterial growth in the internal plumbing?" Yes... the antibacterials are added to the water for a reason. "And what tool do you use to measure the rejection you are referencing in RO systems?" A pocket TDS meter is adequate or if you're a real techie there's this... http://www.tdsmeter.com/products/dm1.html AFAIK there are no small pocket size water hardness testers. You either get the test kit with a chemicals or you use hardness test strips. |
@justalurker.... Well, no, we both do NOT know that. Kinetico went through two other generations of them in the 18 years I owned the first one. Not exactly fast action on my part in response to new introductions. I don't understand your sniping. |
- Posted by justalurker (My Page) on Thu, Jun 21, 12 at 23:04
"I don't understand your sniping" Because it's not sniping... rather a failed attempt at humor. |
RE: Bacteria. Wouldn't that be ironic to spend all that money for the fancy Kinetico system, or any other system with a whole house carbon filter, and then end up with a bacteria in my plumbing because it filtered out the chlorine? I never thought of that. Is that a common problem? |
"....failed attempt at humor." In that case, I'm being dense. Sorry. : ) |
- Posted by justalurker (My Page) on Thu, Jun 21, 12 at 23:44
Whether to filter out chlorine whole house is a debate that has been going on for a long time. Dealers like selling carbon filters cause it increases their profit and adds to their service work when the carbon needs to be replaced. If one is adamant that they don't want it in their water then they can do what they want but I won't be eating or drinking at their home.. Filtering chlorine whole house in order to save(?) the resin is not a good reason to do it. Cross-linked resins tolerate the amount of chlorine and chloramines in municipal water and give respectable service life. |
For hardness monitoring, I use this: http://www.hach.com/total-hardness-test-kit-model-5-b/product?id=7640219508 For RO performance monitoring (TDS measurement) I use this: http://www.tdsmeter.com/products/tds4tm.html justalurker and I have sparred about the whole-house chlorine filtering thing ever since I got one. There's also discussion about it elsewhere although I've yet to see comments from anyone who's got one and has also had their water tested periodically for bugs. I regard it as a non-issue in a closed system. And I enjoy not smelling chlorine in my shower. Justalurker thinks its a significant health risk and I suspect we'll never agree. Disappointed that he won't be eating or drinking at my house although I think a little whiskey in the water served might get us by his worry. : ) Chlorine does kill softener media. However, Justalurker is correct in saying that softener media exposed to the chlorine levels of most municipal systems does, indeed, give "respectable" service life. By "respectable" you should read 10-15 years assuming the unit is sized correctly. Your test kit will tell you when. He is also correct about chlorine in your drinking water being eliminated via the RO system. Whatever RO system you choose will have an activated charcoal pre-filter and an activated charcoal "polishing" post-filter which you'll be changing at appropriate intervals. My units shut off after 500 gallons pass through an internal metering device. In-use that turns out to be every 8-12 months at my two locations. |
@justalurker, RE Chlorine. Interesting. I was considering it because I thought it would help solve the dry skin issues we are all having. In fact, I was the one who requested it from my local water treatment professional and that is why he suggested the stacked tank in the picture I posted above of the Puregen Eco Twin. That solution was the second quote I referred to earlier. He originally told me a Fleck 2000SXT 2.0 and a Watts 525 RO system was all I needed. Do you think the 2.0 is the amount of resin? If yes, you suggested 1.5 earlier. Is that difference critical enough to discuss about it with him? |
- Posted by justalurker (My Page) on Fri, Jun 22, 12 at 2:08
@Asolo... Antibacterials in the water = no bacteria Antibacterials removed from the water = possible bacteria colonization To me that's NOT a non issue. I defend the right of anyone who chooses to risk their health but not the health of others in the home or visitors. @mm92672... I make softener sizing recommendations based on occupation and water conditions, and SFR. |
"Antibacterials removed from the water = possible bacteria colonization" Yes. Correct. And, like the water in the house's pipes -- a closed system -- that would also apply to the RO water sitting in your storage tank...unless you re-chlorinate it. It certainly applies to the RO water you occasionally store in jugs for use later on. This is very common practice. I do not think it represents a significant health risk. I acknowledge that you do think this represents a significant health risk and I have given you full credit for your point of view. |
- Posted by justalurker (My Page) on Fri, Jun 22, 12 at 9:58
The RO's closed system is pretty safe since there is no possibility of cross contamination in the short distance between the tank and faucet. BUT, ROs are installed every day NOT using air gap faucets and that is a great way to cross contaminate an RO. The house's system however, has multiple possibilities for cross-contamination and that is why filtering anti-bacterials out at the POE is a bad idea and should never be recommended to anyone unless they are made aware of the risks.. That is not what I think... it is what I know based on conversations with public health, medical, plumbing, and biology professionals and common sense. For me, I prefer to KNOW that my water is safe... especially when I don't have to do anything or buy anything for it to be safe while you choose to spend money to introduce the ongoing question of whether your water is safe. With respect, we will continue to disagree... you based on your singular experience and not having a problem so far and me in researching the question with people who's job it is to know. |
Well, at least this is intellectually "healthy" for the OP and other readers. There are the two points of view on the topic pretty well laid out. |
@asolo & justalurker. Great info and good pairing to debate both sides of both the chlorine filtration issue and the Kinetico Vs Industry Standard equipment issue. You have helped me rule out the option of the stacked Puregen Twin Eco tank listed earlier in this thread. I was about to flip a coin between the Kinetico and the Fleck system but I think I have shifted from 50/50 to about 80/20 to go with an industry standard equipment setup. What about putting a carbon filter on the water lines to the shower only? My house is on a raised foundation and all the pipes are exposed in the crawl space. If I had a "Big Blue" filter housing with a carbon filter installed on that line only, would that be akin to the RO point: |
- Posted by justalurker (My Page) on Fri, Jun 22, 12 at 11:28
Look for POU (point of use) carbon filters for showers that are modestly priced and give one a try before you start cutting and soldering. |
Agree with justalurker. That should do it. Be certain the canister is large enough to provide full-flow to your shower which will also provide the (small) amount of "dwell time" needed for the media to do it's job at full-flow. I'm sure there are tables about that somewhere. |
@asolo & justalurker: RE: Shower POU Carbon Filter. Good point guys. Small, easy, step first to see if it accomplishes the desired results. Then I can see if it is the chlorine or the hard water drying the skin. Thank you both for your help. |
However, suspect you may have fine time positioning a single cannister to serve both hot and cold lines. Most shower valves mix hot/cold internally just before sending up to the shower-head. Single canister may have to be positioned between the valve and the shower-head. With your configuration, that may be easy or PIA. Not in the bus....just noodling....but there it is. |
@asolo: Ah, yes. Great point. I want to add the following in hopes that it helps someone in the future. We remodeled our house and have been living in it one year. Actually, we knocked our old 1250 sq ft house single story house down and built a 2700 sq ft two story house. One of the local water treatment professionals, the one with the $71xx price tag, told me that they specialize in custom home water treatment. In other words, they are involved after the framing and add water lines wherever you want them. Yes, it is a nice to have, but I have learned that everything is cheaper during the framing stage. Something to think about for those building a house: take a moment to map out your water wants Vs needs. We are seeing white build up on our faucets, shower heads and dishwasher. Get water treatment for your new house and protect all those new investments. My advice, plan for water treatment needs at the same time as the remodel is being designed. As you think about your phone, internet, cable, speaker wiring, think about water too. |
- Posted by justalurker (My Page) on Fri, Jun 22, 12 at 15:03
When you Google "carbon filter for showers" you'll get thousands of hits for shower heads with filters, filter added between nipple and shower head and so on. Don't make it harder than it needs to be. When buying ANY house it's smart to consider the quality of the water before you sign the check... especially when the house is on a well. It's always best to plan ahead especially with plumbing during construction. Then all you have to do is hope the plumber followed your directions. ALL water treatment should be custom water treatment but retrofits are limited to what's there and how much the homeowner can afford. |
I just had two long calls: one with my Kinetico dealer and one with my local water treatment professional. Kinetico offered a "home show" discount of $595 plus $200 to close the sale today and a set of K5 filters for a total of $5200. But, I went with my local guy: Fleck 7000SXT, Watts RO and the carbon filter for showers that he supplies. He just came over with the installer to make sure they have all the parts for the install tomorrow morning. They asked if I wanted the brine tank line to come up through the floor and into my kitchen sink drain or tie into one of the drains under the house. He said If it leaks under the house you may never know Vs if it leaks under the sink I will know. Also, I will hear gurgling sounds when it regenerates if he ties into the sink drain. Sounds to me that he should tie into a drain under the house. If it leaks, I would rather have it leak there than in my house. I can just calender once a month to check for leaks? Advice on where to drain it? |
- Posted by justalurker (My Page) on Fri, Jun 22, 12 at 20:26
Make sure your dealer is giving you a top basket for the 7000SXT and 10% cross-linked resin rather than the 8% stuff. Also, have him install a three ball valve bypass even though the Fleck comes with it's bypass which you will also use. That way, if the Fleck bypass requires service or leaks you can still have water to the house while waiting for repair or parts. Should be a minimal charge at time of installation. You also want the Fleck 2310 safety float in your brine tank. You must be misunderstanding what he is telling you... The brine tank is part of the softener and it's only line connects to the control valve on the softener. There should be an overflow fitting on the brine tank that should connect to a drain if the safety float fails BUT it is a gravity line and can not go UP. If he is speaking about the Softener drain line then it can go up and he can connect it to the sink drain IF he uses an air gap. If the softener starts running to drain under the house you will know it when your next water bill comes for sure. Sounds like an unusual installation can you give more details? |
@justalurker. Thanks. It is a bit unusual. The main water line enters at the front of my house on the far left side of the foundation wall. The pipes then run under the house and go where they need to go. The only place to put the water softener is on the right side of my house. In the photo, you can see the driveway would not allow installation. And see the crawl space entrance. They will cut into the main line under the house before it branches out, divert it to the right side of the house and back again to the main line. The second photo is the space between houses that the softener will be. If you can see that hose bib, just on the other side is a power outlet. About where that power outlet is is the location of my kitchen and that is why he asked if he could tie into that drain, since it is the closet. |
I have a fire sprinkler system. You can see that on the main line just before the shut off valve under the bib. The garage is in the back of the house and has no water. |
He is also going to put a permeate pump with the RO. He said it should help decrease the ratio of waste water and give better flow rate. |
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20 Mordecai recorded these things, and sent letters to all the Jews who were in all the provinces of King Ahasuerus, both near and far, | 20 Mordecai recorded these events, and he sent letters to all the Jews throughout the provinces of King Xerxes, near and far, |
21 enjoining them that they should keep the fourteenth day of the month Adar and also the fifteenth day of the same month, year by year, | 21 to have them celebrate annually the fourteenth and fifteenth days of the month of Adar |
22 as the days on which the Jews gained relief from their enemies, and as the month that had been turned for them from sorrow into gladness and from mourning into a holiday; that they should make them days of feasting and gladness, days for sending gifts of food to one another and presents to the poor. | 22 as the time when the Jews got relief from their enemies, and as the month when their sorrow was turned into joy and their mourning into a day of celebration. He wrote them to observe the days as days of feasting and joy and giving presents of food to one another and gifts to the poor. |
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24 Haman son of Hammedatha the Agagite, the enemy of all the Jews, had plotted against the Jews to destroy them, and had cast Pur—that is "the lot"—to crush and destroy them; | 24 For Haman son of Hammedatha, the Agagite, the enemy of all the Jews, had plotted against the Jews to destroy them and had cast the "pur" (that is, the lot) for their ruin and destruction. |
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28 These days should be remembered and kept throughout every generation, in every family, province, and city; and these days of Purim should never fall into disuse among the Jews, nor should the commemoration of these days cease among their descendants. | 28 These days should be remembered and observed in every generation by every family, and in every province and in every city. And these days of Purim should never cease to be celebrated by the Jews, nor should the memory of them die out among their descendants. |
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31 and giving orders that these days of Purim should be observed at their appointed seasons, as the Jew Mordecai and Queen Esther enjoined on the Jews, just as they had laid down for themselves and for their descendants regulations concerning their fasts and their lamentations. | 31 to establish these days of Purim at their designated times, as Mordecai the Jew and Queen Esther had decreed for them, and as they had established for themselves and their descendants in regard to their times of fasting and lamentation. |
32 The command of Queen Esther fixed these practices of Purim, and it was recorded in writing. | 32 Esther's decree confirmed these regulations about Purim, and it was written down in the records. |
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The school [6] which is run by Alpha Plus Group is reserved for children aged three to thirteen and is located upon a hill within a conservation area on the edge of Tonbridge in Kent. New wings, which include specialist art and science classrooms and a library, were set into the hillside with terraced exterior areas which reconnect the school to the surrounding landscape.
Apart from its sunken part, which had to built from blockwork and concrete, the rest of the school was built entirely from prefabricated cross-laminated timber [7]. This highly efficient method of construction is known for creating well insulated and naturally cooled rooms. It also allowed for most of the components to be manufactured offsite and ensure that the schools stayed open during the renovation.
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After the odd C63 AMG, Porsche Turbo, and Boxster Spyder, I thought a little time in the Mazda 2 was called for as a sort of penance. But hey, not bad at all, especially in Touring trim, which is really snazzy (as described by Evan McCausland). I would say that, for the price, there's plenty of the fabulousness DeMatio doesn't seem to find. Loved the stick, gearing was quite nice, steering was just fine, and a 100-mile freeway drive felt totally composed. They've been repaving our roads. Hitting the old clumpy post-winter pavement wasn't very pleasant and revealed the soft underbelly of the little hatch.
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The question of how many Jews died and how many survived in 1648 has produced much historical discussion. The problem is always the incompatibility of scholarly estimates and what is found in contemporary chronicles. Using demographic tools and applying them to all the regions of the Ukraine, it appears that no more, and possibly much fewer, than fifty percent of the 40,000 or so Jews in that region perished. The survivors mostly returned to their homes and rebuilt. Though speculative, the commensurability of the results argues their probable accuracy.
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Modern Foreplay: Washing the Dishes Together
Which brings me back to Porn for Women. I totally get choreplay. Why don't fathers teach their sons about it? Why don't relationship experts talk about it? Why isn't it taught in high school health class? If more men knew about choreplay, nearly every marriage in America might be saved. More wives would feel horny. More men would get the sex they want. The house, for once, would be clean and orderly. There'd be nothing to fight about. The divorce rate would plummet. You might think I'm just being silly, but I'm not. Think about it. Can you really get turned on when you're exhausted? Can you feel frisky at the same time you feel unappreciated and taken advantage of? I certainly can't. And when I'm working full time on top of doing 80 percent of the parenting and household chores, exhaustion and irritation are a constant state of emotional affairs.
Indeed, the Porn for Women photos spoke to me in a deep, sexual, guttural way, especially the jpeg that depicted a guy in an apron and the caption, "I made some Niman Ranch lamb tenderloin with garlic, black pepper, and Indonesian soy sauce for dinner. I hope that sounds okay." If Mr. Strong and Silent were to strap himself into an apron and use such pillow talk on me, I'd have him back down on the bed faster than you can say filet mignon. Are you with me on this? I bet you are. Now here's the real juicy part of it all. The day after I showed the vacuuming picture to Mr. Strong and Silent, I caught him unloading the dishwasher. He never does that. Ever. I stood and watched with the most amazing sense of awe. Guess what? He did it again the following day. He also sorted the mail. He never does that either. He hasn't brought out the apron yet or offered to cook dinner, but last night he made a huge fuss over my baked chicken thighs. He washed the dishes, and he held my hand while we watched TV together. As far as I'm concerned, he is the sexiest man alive.
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4 Love Lessons From The Bachelorette Finale
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2. Never discount that initial attraction. We're still not sure whether "love at first sight," is a myth, but sparks definitely flew when Roberto and Ali locked eyes that first night. Although initial attraction is never enough to sustain a healthy relationship, it can foreshadow great things for the future. In this case, the spark between these two only burned bigger and brighter as their relationship progressed. Here's to hoping they're the next Trista and Ryan.
3. You can't always wear your heart on your sleeve. Or on a tattoo on your wrist. Ahem, Kasey. While communicating your feelings to your significant other is essential, oversharing too early in the relationship may actually scare them away. While we can certainly commend Kasey for his sincerity and passion, his gestures were a little much. Let's not forget that the serenades and the infamous tattoo all went down in the course of a 2-month dating show in which the object of his affection was dating 25 other guys. Timing is everything, people. And remember: a balance of reassurance and mystery is what keeps things interesting.
4. Don't overlook the "nice guy." Why, yes, we're referring specifically to Chris L. While the sweet, sensitive kind may not be your type, we'd argue that every woman deserves to date a "nice guy" at least once in her life. Chris was gentle, kindhearted and clearly adored Ali. Although the two ultimately lacked enough of a connection, Chris showed Ali how she ought to be treated—with respect, honor and care. But before you begin feeling sorry for this nice guy, don't. Nice guys don't necessarily finish last. In a post-interview, Chris L. expressed his hurt, but also his optimism to find someone even better. Sounds like the setting for the next season of The Bachelor, if you ask us…


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Submitted by MISSYLYNMAY74 Carbs: 24.8g | Fat: 8.4g | Fiber: 0.6g | Protein: 8.4g | Calories: 211.5
I found this on FoodNetwork.com. It's got a very light flavor to it, but at the same time is very flavorful. I love it in the summer, but its good anytime. Submitted by JAZZIKINSWS Carbs: 25.6g | Fat: 11.2g | Fiber: 2.3g | Protein: 34.4g | Calories: 665.2
Dress up Hamburger Helper dinner mix Italian style with corn, tomatoes and herbs! Delizioso! Submitted by ROBLOVESJENN Carbs: 56.2g | Fat: 21.2g | Fiber: 4g | Protein: 29.4g | Calories: 527.3
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Submitted by NEELY74 Carbs: 17.3g | Fat: 14.4g | Fiber: 1.5g | Protein: 31.5g | Calories: 327.1
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Submitted by KAYBYRNES Carbs: 24.3g | Fat: 4.3g | Fiber: 8.4g | Protein: 18.6g | Calories: 208.1
Submitted by CELTIC_WITCH Carbs: 22.9g | Fat: 20.5g | Fiber: 2.7g | Protein: 11.9g | Calories: 324.7
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Quick and Easy Spiced Scallops - great for dinner or a quick and elegant appetizer Submitted by TIME4JUDI Carbs: 5.5g | Fat: 8.4g | Fiber: 0.8g | Protein: 29.2g | Calories: 219.1
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Delicious and low cal! Submitted by JHAR5956 Carbs: 23.6g | Fat: 1.1g | Fiber: 5.1g | Protein: 12.9g | Calories: 151.3
These burgers have a true crab flavor that isn't masked by fillers or strong seasoning. Serve on a bun with tartar sauce or with a lemon-juice-dressed salad of greens, sprouts and sliced peaches. This recipe works best with convenient pasteurized crabmeat, usually found in the refrigerated case near the fish counter. If you prefer lump crabmeat, cut it into small, uniform pieces. Submitted by RUTHSHEART Carbs: 5.1g | Fat: 10.4g | Fiber: 0.2g | Protein: 11.3g | Calories: 159.6
Light on calories and your wallet, but not light on taste. Made in 6 quick and easy steps. Submitted by CHEL_Z Carbs: 13.1g | Fat: 19.9g | Fiber: 1.4g | Protein: 32.7g | Calories: 368.3
This is a delicious chicken recipe that my family loves Submitted by ALECSANDRA Carbs: 4.3g | Fat: 8g | Fiber: 0g | Protein: 19.4g | Calories: 166.4
Delicious and quick, this dish is a great way to get more fish into your healthy meal plan! We think this baked tilapia recipe can't be beat! Submitted by RACHIELOO Carbs: 1.2g | Fat: 10.5g | Fiber: 0g | Protein: 19.6g | Calories: 177.1
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Beautiful side dish using green and red cabbage. Slightly sweet, slightly salty...completely delicious! Submitted by CRAUDI Carbs: 3.7g | Fat: 3g | Fiber: 1.4g | Protein: 0.9g | Calories: 41.7
Enjoy this German classic. My Aunt Angela was born & raised there, this is her recipe. Submitted by SQUIRRELWOLFS Carbs: 29.8g | Fat: 10.8g | Fiber: 0.7g | Protein: 2.1g | Calories: 220.1
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Submitted by DAKOTANMISTY Carbs: 16.5g | Fat: 6.5g | Fiber: 4.4g | Protein: 16.6g | Calories: 187.4
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Super Good, Super Quick!This white fish recipe is spectacular! If you want an amazingly quick meal, this is the way to do it. For a little less tang, reduce the lemon juice. Submitted by SEABEACON8 Carbs: 1g | Fat: 8g | Fiber: 0g | Protein: 23.6g | Calories: 174.8
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Submitted by SMALLERMELORIE Carbs: 4.3g | Fat: 2.8g | Fiber: 2.2g | Protein: 25.6g | Calories: 144.6
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Submitted by STONEBOW Carbs: 25.9g | Fat: 11.6g | Fiber: 1.8g | Protein: 17.1g | Calories: 276.8
These spicy and moist boneless pork chops are made with no added fat, egg whites, evaporated skim milk, and a lively herb mixture. Carbs: 11.1g | Fat: 12.1g | Fiber: 0.3g | Protein: 27.9g | Calories: 271.4
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