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The adult film industry is in a bit of a pickle after Measure B, requiring performers to wear condoms while filming, passed in Los Angeles County on Tuesday.
Many people involved with the porn industry have spoken out against the ordinance, including 26-year-old adult film star James Deen, who stars alongside Lindsay Lohan in Bret Easton Ellis' "The Canyons," due out in 2013.
"I am disappointed. Not particularly about the law but about my community of adult entertainers being continually bullied and used by others," Deen told The Huffington Post in an e-mail.
Photos: James Deen, other porn stars who've gone mainstream
"We are much like the homosexual, minority or female populations," he continued. "We are a community of tax-paying and law-abiding voters who are currently being persecuted. But our opinions do matter, and I hope one day we get respect as these previously-stated groups and others have begun to receive."
According to Smartvoter.org, the controversial ordinance also states that producers must apply for a permit from the Los Angeles County Department of Public Health and pay a fee to offset the cost of enforcement.
"Are examinations going to be mandatory now, or are we going to be wearing gloves on set?" Deen told The Daily Beast. "I mean, what about goggles? What about kissing and fluid exchange? Is kissing no longer allowed in pornos? Like, what degree of severity is this measure actually going to require? After that, is it worth it?"
Depending on what happens with Measure B (Adult Video News reported that it will probably be challenged in court), Deen said it might be worth it to take the industry elsewhere.
"Is it worth it to migrate to Las Vegas, which is said to be welcoming with open arms?" he asked. "Florida, and I believe Arizona as well, said something about wanting the billion-dollar industry. That's going to be a huge hit to Los Angeles."
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The moral police are here to tell you how you should live your life. We're called conservatives, the right, republicans, and tea partiers. We're old. We're from another time. And we can't get over it. We've indoctrinated our dim-witted children with our wacky beliefs, and next we're coming for you.
The gay industry has been using condoms in porn for a long long time. they still make a profit. This will not destroy the industry
now piracy, that will definitely destroy the industry. Government does everything to stop the piracy games,movies and cds, but no enforcement for porn companies. If you like porn, report piracy
lemon meringue
im gonna let it fly now....../squirt....awww, it landed in the bag
I bet Lindsay didn't make him wear a condom!
No, I'm sure she took it on the chin.
let them do what they want to do-if they get some kind of disease then it's their own choice and they pay the consequences-we should not govern anyone's life-
No industry should stay in California. The nearly 100% Democratic state legislature will stop at nothing to control every industry (and squeeze as much money out of them as possible – and then some).
Versus the Republican fundie nuts in CA who are trying to destroy the industry completely? Yeah, clearly the Democrats are worse for the adult film industry than the right. /Sarcasm
And if you bothered to read the article at all, you'd know it was LA County that passed the bill – not the entire state.
If AIDS and other stds are not a currently a problem in the industry, leave it alone. If so then that is one possible option
How old is this story now ??? Really gettin'stale
I'm actually for this law.
While the spreading of HIV isn't commonplace in the porn industry, there is a significant thread of that, and other STDs being spread on set. The additional cost of this will be next to nothing, so I don't see a reason not to use it.
People create condomless porn movies, because people watch condomless porn movies. As long as actors know the risks, it's their choice.
Hopefully, they have medical insurance to pay for the medicines to keep HIV in check.
The porn industry regulates themselves quite well on STD and HIV. I would bet the percentages are a fraction of the general population when it comes to STD's in their industry. Maybe the focus needs to be on the public and not the smaller group of actors/actresses. All this will do is drive them out of LA and into another city who will reap the benefits of a larger tax payday.
Your an 1diot. Nobody is going to watch porn with them wearing condom.
adult movie actors are class B citizens ... their opinion does not matter .. ridiculous people ... that said, they are right, who cares if they do or not do use condoms? What is wrong with those who voted for this measure .. what are they jealous adult actors might get too much of a good time?
Crazy and stupid ... there are millions of kids dying because of drug abuse, millions of kids who get arrested just for smoking marijuana .. and all these citizens can think is worrying about adult actors using a condom or not? What is wrong with you guys?
Ignorant intolerant fascist, much?
Millions of kids dying of drug abuse? What planet do you live on? What a wacked tirade.
all over the world the total is easily in the millions .. I rather see that problem addressed before concerns about adult actors and their dick
The only "class B citizen" is the one who thinks he/she high enough on their imaginary totem pole to call others such.
right .. ha ha ha .. keep masterbating
Everyone above this line got trolled.
Dumb voters of LA in the cash strapped state of CA vote for this nonsense which will cost money to operate, pay salaries, insurance, pensions no doubt etc for something not needed. Stupid measure voted for by stupid people!
So here is what I don't get.....
Porn stars now have to wear condoms when performing, due to health "reasons".
And yet, Californians rejected the idea that they should be allowed to know if the food they are about to eat is genetically modified?
That doesn't make any sense.
i'll be right back....
Whine, whine, whine. This is an industry with routinely abused employees, and the big name stars can't envision anything getting in the way of their big screen debues. Here's the reality, Princess. The porn industry is an INDUSTRY, the same as any other business, and we regulate ALL business. You are not being oppressed being told to wear a condom, no more than the construction worker is oppressed by being told to wear a hard hat. Your industry refused to police itself, forcing external regulation to happen to defend your own employees. Chew on that flavored condom for a while and think on it a little, yes? Disease and infection rates are rampant in your business, and if you don't protect your employees, WE WILL.
Disease is NOT rampant in their industry. Try reading the article, you tool
a georgous women(looking hot for age) heads to the dry cleaners all of a sudden there is this hunk of male flesh pressing her suit-their eyes meet they rip each others clothes off have passionate x on the counter - they don't care who is around them–moans and groans for 10 minutes–people are picking up their dry cleaning the lovers are not paying attention–van halen's jump is playing so loud the entire lot can here it–moans and groans everywhere – afterwards they decide to go for big macs and went home. dry cleaning - in and out part 2 will be available next year.
winter is here and i be bzy... signing off for now.
....its here its not going and people like it....guys just put the bag on and get busy with the girlfriends–lololol
Notice how your the only one that laughed at your terrible joke?
a bar howling one night.
P-rn will never drive out the industry.... and why because she da man. baaaaaaaaaaawahhhhhhaaaaaa–this is me! :)
People like porn and its not going anywhere - i agree with the others if your dipping the pen in the ink with others then just put the darn thing on–
It's not just the adult industry Los Angeles has largely driven off the entertainment industry. It's too expensive and too much of a hassle to shoot there. So they've already driven off billions a year in business so what's another billion? It's not like they need the tax dollar! Las Vegas is probably a perfect fit since they are struggling. I'm neither for or against I just feel we have bigger problems than regulating morality. The performers are already regularly tested so it's not the health issue they make it out to be it's more about putting them under their thumb and many I'm sure hope it will drive out the industry.
hmmmm cream pie
because 85% of the time your not talking to her–
So no more cream pie ?
Just do a cut scene and squirt some mayo on the target area and be done with it.
why do i do these things
James Deen is probably a smoker who does not wear a seatbelt.
I honestly have trouble understanding why there still is a porn industry. Until humanity evolves a new orifice, everything has been done a million times over and most of it is on the internet for free.
So true! Totally agree with you.
A terrible blow for the industry.
they are getting screwed bigtime!
they more the others will screw right back
Thex is awful. Ban it f'rever.
It is clear Los Angeles County wants the porn industry to skip town. The people KNOW no one wants to see it with condoms. They know this kind of regulation would basically kill the industry. And they know this would force the industry to move. As a County resident they could go to Vegas for all I care. In fact, they belong in Vegas. And no, I don't care about the lost tax revenue.
Put your peepee in a teepee!
All this fuss over this and all they would have to do to get around it is move their movie studios to another county. Then Measure B wouldn't apply to them anymore, the new county would be happy to get all the taxes that LA County no longer gets, and LA County would realize that they lost all that tax revenue and what fools they were in the first place and repeal the law in an effort to get them to come back and then the porn industry would politely tell them to go do something to themselves that is physically impossible. (If you catch my drift...)
If it has been determined that this kind of activity is deemed to 'risky' then maybe they should use stuntman..
Than I volunteer to be that stuntman!
Won't matter. When the $500B in defense cuts take effect, California will be economically gutted. It'll make the Clinton defense cuts of the early 1990's look like a mild recession.
When wars end, you don't need as much defense spending. BTW, when you talk about cuts in defense, do you include the exponential increase in "homeland security" (i.e., defense) spending?
Go to Hell Shelley Lubben. No one wants to see your loose roast beef curtains anyway. FUG.
Condoms for porn stars but not for Governators?
Oh the IRONY.
When these people catch HIV, we all have to pay. It's for their own benefit.
When obese people get diabetes or have a heart attack we all have to pay. See how bad your logic is?
Its not really the fact that they are being forced to do it, its more of the fact that California is looking for another cow to slaughter for money. Porn star infects porn star with something, they know whats up. California wants to step in, of course, with their hand out, to make sure they are protected. And of course the population is like "Do it, cuz I dont watch porn anyways." or looked at it as a way to get porn out of their state. Its crap.
Puta, por favor at that line comparing porn stars having to wear condoms to the hardships faced by women, minorities, and the LGBT community. This is some white male privilege right here.
I think if the actor wants to use a condom let them if not only work with other actors who share your view. I thought they police themselves because I saw a film a few year ago about the adult industry and how they make each actor get tested before they are allowed to work on a new film. If this isn't working then something else needs to be put in place. I can see the government HELPING them come up with other measures to ensure the actors safety but TELLING them what to do isn't the answer. If California enforces this law then I think the porn industry should move to another state. People watch porn not because of it's moral values but because it's PORN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Didn't the VOTERS pass this into law? It's not that the government just made it up - the PEOPLE said it was correct.
Not really sure what someone does in their bedroom is the realm of the 'peoples business'. Whether it's cameras or condoms.
having x with alot of women–you should put one on.
In Brazil it's already been a requirement, for several years. Big deal.
The requirement of the condom is likely not so much the big deal as the getting a permit which in turn pays for the enforcement of the law. So the county basically just made the industry not only have to start doing something they didn't want to, but also is making them pay for all the overhead to enforce it. Now first of all I think that's pretty friggen low. You saddle the very industry with the cost of it? When yes they could indeed go somewhere else and not get that cost. If they choose to protect themselves or not is up to them, but force them to pay for a law you just shoved down their throats.. that's just bad form. If LA County wanted them out it looks like they have gotten their wish.
"We are much like the ho.mose.xual, minority or female populations..."
Don't even go there, dude. None of those are by choice. You are a PROFESSION and you can compare yourself to other PROFESSIONS, some of which are under assault by legal policies, but you are NOT like ho.mose.xual, minority, or female populations who have no choice in who they are. You can change professions if you don't like it or make valid comparison to other job situations, but you don't get to cast yourself in some false civil rights struggle of equality. The government can, and routinely does, make health and safety rules for workplaces–into which condoms on po.rn sets clearly falls. This is nothing different than other health and safety regulations.
By the way, I don't necessarily agree with the proposition, but I won't stoop to false comparisons to condemn it, either.
The truth here is that men hate using condoms and will do anything to whine, bully or tantrum their way out of wearing one. This 26 year old boob of an idiot in the article is no exception. There is NOTHING cool about a guy who won't use protection. When you ask about their last comprehensive screen for STIs, you will get a dumb, blank stare or "uh, you know, honey, I'm clean". BS
Very well said!!
i would love to see him in a movie–
I guess you like guys with receding hairlines who think because they do well in porn they can actually act. Deen can't. Oh, but his hairline is indeed suspect.
yeah a snuff movie
I wonder if those who are allergic to latex can file a workers comp claim. Or some sort of disability discrimination.
Ian – non-latex condoms are readily available.
I don't know if you are being funny but I agree with you.
when is Lindsey and Kim Kardashin going to start this line of work.
I'd pay them not to.
it would be an upgrade for Kim
Hey. Its tardo. He's baaaack! Welcome to the loser board!
she had a big day–BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
What a putz! Why u tryin to crack jokes?? Give it up...don't give up your day job.
all at once now–
You may as well call me StupidDave...I am as bright as a lamp post. My IQ nearly hit single digits...I didn't qualify for that game show, but they asked if I wanted to try out for "Are You Smarter than a 1st Grader?". I was so dense that even the short bus kids made fun of me! I was sooo clueless that when my buddy asked me to polish the knob...I reached for Pledge and a rag....
That's all we have for now folks. The 10 o'clock show will be completely different from the 8pm show! See ya.
Why is our government even involved in this stuff? Who cares if they wear condoms. Seriously. They are adults. They can make their own decisions. They do not need the government doing it for them
voters. not government, but voters.
Jeff, it is for the very same reason motor vehicle occupants are required to wear seat belts. Seat belts save lives. Condoms prevent unwanted lives and disease and many people are too stupid to use them. Why is this a problem? People in the USA are no longer responsible for their stupid choices and taxpayers are left to pay for them. When taxpayer money has to pay for people's choices, the local/state/federal government starts making those choices..."live under my roof/on my dollar and you will follow my rules". I prefer personal responsibility but few people are willing to return to Dickensian societies.
I have watched so much porn that I am now turned on by big hairy schlongs.
Nate...so good to see u. There has been a poser running his mouth, using your name! Not cool. We make a good pair...Cate and Nate!!
Don't disrespect your mother
You can't stop da troll !! Hahahahahahhahahahaha
To use a quote from the movie Bachelor Party: "Not that I'm complaining, but I usually don't like my filth this clean!"
Remember, one primary factor for the very existence of this industry (and others of similarly questionable repute) is the zeal with which conservatives tried to keep the lid on Pandora's Box, so to speak. Just because they can readily live a life within very narrow parameters does not mean the same is possible for all, for it is erroneous to think they chose to be strait-laced, prudent, puritanical, and so forth. It's in your DNA, babies.
hurray for spreading disease
Damn I hate condoms
Bring it to small town texas.........email me firstname.lastname@example.com Why leave it to the big city to rule your world coome on down to the small towns and do want you want....
these porn stars are really getting the shaft
Good for you my man. Think like a capitalist. This guy is obviously a bright intelligent guy.
Take the industry to Flordia or Las Vegas, vote with your feet. How stupid can CA be with the fiscal mess they are in.
The state of CA should get off these guys backs. The Adult Industry has an incredibly rigourous testing process when it comes to STD.
They are good people, law abiding citizens, pay taxes etc. and they harm no one.
Keep slamming Joanna my man. Huge fan and have lots of you and Joanna on CDs.
Porn fan in Chicago
Im all for porn but the truth is its a dangerous industry, and when you work in a state controlled by liberals, you have to do exactly what they want you to do or they shut you down. They do not believe in personal choice and responsibility
It's the governments duty to protect its citizens
really. it's the liberals fault? this completely sounds like an issue that a right wing religious nut job would come up with with the exception of the use of condoms. you sound too pent up. stop going to church and go do some pleasure #$%@ing once in a while. there is a genetic reason it feels so good.
Your ignorance is why Republicans lost the Presidency and lost seats both in the Senate And the House.
Yes it is the Liberals fault. Always picking and choosing when the govt can and can't come into their bodies. LA voted 70% for Obama. You are a typical Liberal who can not think.
I would tell you you need to check your definition of liberals. But I'm going to guess the words are too big.
another morally bankrupt republican....
They hiring enforcement officers?
You can inspect my dingle all day long
You got short shafted Tools!
Does it make me gay if I only like porn if a chick is getting banged by a huge Johnson? It does nothing for me if its girls only
I need to see a big shaft to get turned on while watching porn. I don't think I am gay but from watching so porn huge rods turn me on
Don't be a silly, wrap that willy!
I'll be the first to sign you up for inspections when you try get it on with your wife.
Mr. Dean – All California is trying to do is issue safety guidelines for your profession... It's no different than helmet laws. If you want California to protect you and your colleagues, then allow California to protect itself from future liability.
Your Progressive logic makes me sick. Why do you people think the government has anyone's best interest in mind? Why do you liberals believe the government should control every aspect of our lives? The porn industry regulated itself with testing programs. You make me sick. Why don't you go to the LA beaches where we can't even throw or catch a frisbee, and watch your stupid condom porn while sipping on a 8 ounce Pepsi– if Big Brother says it's OK
Helmet Laws? What right does anybody have to tell me what I can or can not do with my own life? I don't want or need people or government trying to protect me from myself. I don't ever wear a helmet. Never. Maybe living life inside of a bubble works for you, but I want to experience the things I am living, including the bugs and the possibility of plowing into a deer at 75 miles per hour without a helmet.
Big brother is watching you Stick-it, and nice name take your opinions and stick it stickit
Maybe a concrete viaduct Knippel, Darwin removes gene pools like yours every day.
he's has to get use to my sense of humor...otherwise we won't make it
mr. & mrs lee... are in a peek a boo store right now ... they are sick... sick i tell you!!!!!!!!!! baaaaaawaaaaaaahaaaaaa
you know there is nothing wrong with adults taking peek at these movies...it helps keep the momentum up...
my kind of town
every wednesday night...
By punching you in the face?? You are an idiot and a fool. Go pound sand you fairy!!
As a public service, I will volunteer to watch every porn movie made in LA to ensure they are complying with the law.
You would be bored to death after about 3 days. You would seriously lose all interest....getting home to watch the Golf channel would be your days highlight.
I should have that job: I ALREADY watch every straight porn movie made in LA.........
were talkin straight porn here Christoinferno, not tranny or gay.
CA taxes and unsions forced movie makers into Canada. Now this kraap will force Porn into Vegas. See what your libby taxes and rules do to business? it goes bye bye.
It wasn't the taxes or the unions, it was a requirement that would make the product less appealing
Libbies? Is everything black or white in your view? It was voted on by the people. What, you don't like democracy now? Your sounding like an un-american trator now, in the pocket of the multi-national corporations, new world order BS
Anything repub: GOOD Anything dem: BAD. Never mind you're a delusional fool with your characterizations.
the hump of the work week would work...james? good for you?
it was james's mother in law that had to calm him down...that was it the mother in law.
he was too nervous about marriage an his "sisterinlaw" had to calm him down...haha
when the office is too quiet i blow my nose and let out a honk sound to make everyone jump out of their seats.
"james" can help you put it on
its going to make a honking sound also.
This is the reason your office has such a low productivity level. AND the reason you'll soon be fired. Hope your little online antics were worth it, looo-zurrr. And BTW, you're ANYTHING but funny.
you call your boyfriend "nose"?
It's all righteous until some actor/actress with an unknown latex allergy dies of anaphylaxis. What then? Say the sheep skin is fine - even though it does a poor job of stopping transmission? Oh, wait, now you've created a barrier to work based upon "allergy status." Don't worry, i'm sure the main lobbyist for this bill will start producing their non-latex product with a nice high profit margin soon enough!
I hate condoms because i'm allergic, they make me swell up >:)
I thought swelling up was kinda the point.
Move production elsewhere, problem solved.
Meanwhile what a stupid thing to allow people to vote on. Just pathetic.
"Free Willy" brings on an all new meaning...
There goes the entire line of creampie films. They were my favorite.
how dare you James Dean... you're fake porn star name....Ummm, when you've screwed over 3000 women and denegrate them...I've seen your movies....quit yer whining...you're getting it more than the rest of us...at least you could wear a condom when you perform. which reminds me, you have a small dick compared to Steve Holmes. Even Mr. Pete does you shame.
For someone who doesnt appear to like porn you sure know a whole lot about the actors and their body parts. I think thou protests too much!
Generally, those who whine like you're doing here either A.) aren't very big around, but sure are short, or B.) Get their lady all worked up for ice cream, only to serve her up a softie.
What so good about being in cali? Everyone else is moving away. Later on there will be no disneyland. Is this how we bring money to our country? if those porn star cares about disease they woudlnt step in the porn industrial in the first place. Its something else
sorry Tuesday
Long live the money shot.
They're getting the shaft.
You people have to realize this passed in the same county that went 70% to Obama. LA County is a beacon for Progressive people in the USA. Of course, when it comes to abortion and gay rights- the government should stay out of the bedroom. When it comes to regulating business in the bedroom- those Progressives are all for it. Come on, they already did this with the film industry. Why do you think nothing is shot in LA or Hollywood anymore? Vancouver, Pittsburgh, Detroit, Cleveland, etc are all the new Hollywoods. Progressives HATE business enterprise. They will tax and regulate until all we have left are the mega corporations.
Actually, if you knew anything at all about the backers of the bill, you would know that it was written by someone who hold a major stake in the condom industry. This has everything to do with someone trying to line their pockets with more money. People who voted for it, did it because they know nothing of how the porn industry works in the first place.
I know Rik, you don't have to tell me Liberals know nothing.
For the record, I'm a liberal and I voted against it for the reasons you mention- I think what the performers do with their bodies is their choice, whether they're doing it in their personal life or for their job.
Where's the right-wing outrage about gov't intrusion here?
Its California, there is no right wing there, lol. All the national right wing voices have been otherwise engaged too.
If it helps this Ohio Republican believes the government should be staying out of this and letting the run the business as tehy see fit.
How can anyone who defends a woman's right to her body not also be on the side of the porn stars and the right to their bodies? If two consenting adults understand and are ok with the risk, then what does it matter to you.?
"Is it worth it to migrate to Las Vegas, which is said to be welcoming with open arms?" he asked.
You mean "with open legs," right?
naughty girls need love too and so do porn stars.
I think politicians should be forced to wear a giant Leslie Nealson condom because they are corporate porn stars.
Love it :)
I'd like to take a moment of silence so we can remember all those poor, poor victims of the porn industry and their struggles for humanity. Now please....my violin and I would like to play a sad song in their honor.
I am weeping . . .
If you knew where that violin has been, you may not want to touch it.
Yea, you should start crying for the real estate agents who buy and sell the thousands of studios, the food services who sell catered lunches, the film, lighting, and editing crews that work in the porn industry during the off-season, and the tax revenue that this B-I-L-L-I-O-N dollar industry brings in. You sound like a typical Progressive, picking and choosing and regulating business to the point they leave town.
To the people who are ripping apart the porn industry....
I'd love to take a look at your internet history.
What a great argument – if you have a problem with the porn industry, you must be a secret porn watcher.
The problem is this: in ALL other industries which involve bodily fluids and contact with naked people in any context, there are extremely strict guidelines about wearing gloves and protecting the worker from bloodborne pathogens. What is happening is that the porn industry is exposing themselves to HUGE lawsuits when someone lies about disease status.
If everyone is forced to get monthly blood tests and physical exams, there would be no need for protections. No one new can work until they are tested at least twice showing negative to all common STDs. Then I would not see a need for condoms.
I'm not ripping on them, but it only works are bizarre humor for me. Watching other people do it is boring after three minutes or so, then I start giggling and have to turn it off. They look so serious, trying so hard to give the audience a good look at the goodies.
rh... I don't think lying about status is an issue... I thought hey all are required to have tests on file and I think they have to be tested very regularly. I don't know all the specifics, but I remember reading they have to take the HIV test that is supposed to go positive a short period after exposure. And they have to have a recent test before working. There is always a window of risk, but they try to make it as small as possible.
rh – currently members of the porn industry ARE required to be tested regularly. The ability to lie about status is extremely hard. There is a dbase that is kept with the results of their tests.
The lottery also creates jobs and generates money, but that doesn't mean it's good for humanity.
It is if you win.
Don't play if you don't like it.
Conundrum, I fear: it's the conservatives who want this law, but my guess is that conservatives will also decry the existence of an official Government Office of Condom Inspection. Then again, it is "job creation..."
The last time I checked LA county was significantly in the Democrat's corner. This wasn't a law passed in Oklahoma.
Ummm this vote was in California- no repubs there- democrats made this happen
Exactly, here is the October 2012 registration breakdown in LA county where the measure was passed: Democrat: 2,430,610 Republican 1,037,031. It wasn't like this was something pushed through by conservatives. This is by all intents and purposes a very liberal county.
Better keep that outta arizona u bring that industry here, youre gonn fins alot of people that arent gonna like u here.... And even more that will bite more than bark
Yeah buddy, until they start seeing all those giant tax checks rolling in.
If you do not like it, don't watch it. Plain and simple.
No problem, they'd just buy you out. Is your land mortgaged? Your house? The bank would sell it to North Korea if they had the money, and they'd sell it to rich lawyers a lot quicker. Remember, these are rich job creators who employ a lot of people; the police are automatically on their side. That sheriff who likes to 'dress up' his inmates with pink underwear would fit right in.
Oh no, someone seriously said if we want more regulations and less freedom to vote Democrat? Seriously?? Who do you think is trying to end a woman's choice when it comes to her body? Who do you think wants to make gay marriage illegal? Who do think wants to censor everything that THEY think is inappropriate? It sure ain't the Democrats.
Amen! Tell it!
"Who do you think is trying to end a woman's choice when it comes to her body"
Probably the same types of people that tried to end a slave owner's right to own slaves.
Im Republican but many of us are with you on that. Less government. Let FREEDOM ring!
Typical Lberal/Progressive response. LA County is PROGRESSIVE/LIBERAL. They voted 70% for OBAMA. Oh, did those 70% of people who are all for govt staying out of the bedroom just misread or skip over this bill when they voted? Very typical of you Progressive- picking and choosing what to enforce when. It was LIBERALS and CONSERVATIVE who passed this measure, you idiot. The liberals saw "regulate business" and punched that ticket in an instant.
Anyone who has worked in a factory has been required to wear safety googles, hard-toe boots and even hard hats; anyone who has worked in a hospital or clinic has worn latex gloves and masks: many work places have safety requirements so this is not as 'invasive' or 'ridiculous' as some are protesting. That said I don't care if these people are stupid enough to take a risk, let them suffer for it; it's like driving without a seatbelt or riding a motorcycle without a helmet. It's darwinism and natural selection.
Here's an idea: Make your porn movies in another state!
There. Problem solved.
And when L.A loses THIS tax revenue, where will they go to pay for their unfunded spending? The Fed and OUR tax dollars. Good thing they have Barry to write the check.
"Porn star: 'We're being persecuted'"
ALL perverts should be persecuted.
Persecuted. Is that code for 'span ked' (wink wink)
Said the person who has never,ever watched a pr0n movie...riiight?
The most messed up, unbelievable, physically improbable, mentally damaging stories ive ever heard.....come from Marines.
"ALL perverts should be persecuted" Most of pr0n is hetero. Do you consider that perverted? You know, a man with a woman? Do you like gladiator movies? Ever seen a grown man naked?
How is that perverted? It's beautiful.
Since this passed only in Los Angeles county and only applies to porn being made in Los Angeles county I believe the final response from the porn industry is going to be to move out of Los Angeles county, which, I'm guessing here, was the main goal all along.
Which is a horrible move since L.A. is broke as it is and we need all the funds we can get.
Victimization outrage - now a cottage industry - at its best. Everyone's a victim, even porn stars. Absolute disgrace, but also, a hearty laugh.
there are men who like it and there are men who love it...
This is the liberal world in which we live in? God this country is turning into a joke.
You love the liberal country because if you lived in a non-liberal country, you would have no rights at all. Don't you get that. And anyway, you watch porn.
This is the self-righteous world in which you live? God this country is turning into a joke.
Move to North Korea. Everyone obeys the law, and the lights go out an hour past sunset. It's just like the good old days!
unfortunately, with me you gotta put the bag on –
which is fine, but the reason men watch porn is so we don't have to.
On what...your head?
Seriously? Unless you were BORN a porn actor you cannot compare yourself to someone who was BORN gay, BORN a racial minority, BORN female. This comment explains why you're in the industry you're in. You're too stupid to do anything else. Your parents must be so proud.
Umm.... have you seen the members of the male porn stars? Sure looks like a lot of them WERE 'born' to be a porn star....
Regardless of your religious stance everyone needs to remember that this is a business and it's about making money. Find a need and fill a need (literally).
This condom law however while created with the best intentions actually will HARM the industry and their target audience will be affected.
Men don't like condoms, we'll wear them sure.. but we don't LIKE to. Why would we want to see a porn film (which is basically a fantasy story) where there actors are forced to do the very thing we as men HATE to do?
It makes no sense.
I understand the safety aspect but the actors and actresses have made it very clear they do not want this type of interference in their line of work.
20 years ago this law certainly would have been helpful, but times AND science and safety precautions have changed.. a simple test can prevent a disease just as easily as a condom can.
Well, d'uh: maybe if some men saw condoms in their fanatsy scenarios they would not have icky-cooties over wearing a simple latex sheath that protects their health and that of their partner[s]: it is pretty juvenile to fuss over a condom when STDs, unwanted pregnancies and HIV are far more shattering to a person's fantasies than a condom. Grow the heck up.
A test doesn't prevent disease, it helps you stop from spreading it further.
A test cannot prevent a disease. Porn, drugs, and cigarettes are billion dollar industries, yes, but also the scourge of America. Money makes the world go 'round, but that doesn't make it right.
Just in case people take what Emma said seriously, condoms, as they say on the box, do not prevent STD's or HIV. They are not 100% get out of jail free cards. They may help, but you can still contract.
Oh, and no, we dont want condoms in porn, just like we dont want all sorts of things in porn. It gets cold sometimes, why shouldnt the girls be forced to wear sweaters....and athletes foot, must wear shoes....The reputable companies have their actors tested. They will wear condoms for fear of being shut down, even though there is zero risk of anything happening. The freelancers may not have their actors tested. They wont wear condoms, because they dont have a threat.
The point is this is the same lame ass argument as gun control, all the bad guys will just turn in their guns and never ever aquire them illegally, like cuban cigars or cocaine.
CPR mouth protectors should be used by anyone kissing in any movie.
the mouth bit is no longer required, just crush the ribcage and move on.
maybe that is funny to everyone but i'm sorry thats that way it goes with me. the pron boys should be wearing them–that's it.
Regardless of ones stance on the issue.
We do NOT have the right to tell two consenting adults that they must wear condoms.
It's the same as people saying they have the right to decide who can and can't marry.
does it really matter. people watch it, enjoy it. its their business.
Think of it as OSHA required PPE,, many people don't like wearing safety glasses or hard hats. I guess we could let Darwins' law cull the population...
"Darwins' law cull the population" until pr0n actors/actresses mutate into bizarre travesties of humanity, with enlarged organs and bulging chests, living trails of slime behind them as they- oh, wait. That's already happened.
mr. Dean has the right to express his opinion and made some valid points but in light of the recent AIDS scare in the porn industry condoms make sense. Sure there are porn viewers that would consider a condom a form of censorship but they also feel that hey, I'll never come in contact with these folks so what's the harm? Well the harm is that you don't always detect people with a common cold but you wind up catching it. This law may prove to be for the greater good as for as protecting the health of the general populace. Now the taxes and fees are another thing. That is just a overt way of raising revenue which with California's fiscal problems this just may be needed.
PERSECUTED!! This is called SIN!! This is not a way to make a living. Who are the ones that are being persecuted. Those who stand for righteousness. Those who stand for the bible, God's Holy and moral law. Then you wonder why we had such a devestating storm. It is God Himself who is judging this nation for its many sins. God's patience will not strive with man forever. This is only the beginning of what is to come. The first time He came in grace; next time He is coming in judgment! HEBREWS 10:31, "IT IS A TERRIBLE THING TO FALL INTO THE HANDS OF THE LIVING GOD." REPENT BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE!!!
YOU do not have the right to tell these people what to do.
If your God is going to punish them, he will. But YOU do not act in his name and YOU do not make the choices for him.
porn is sin but murdering thousands of people across the seas for oil rights and evicting families out of their homes because they can't afford their mortgage is just a business?
you're a kook.
Don't you dare talk about the world's most followed religion being persecuted. You have no right to speak for your God and you have no right to judge others.
How dare you try to pin an unfortunate natural disaster on your God's judgement.
Crazy much?
Didn't they do a Criminal Minds episode about you?
Ever heard of separation of church and state? The bill rights, fourth ammendment clearly states how and what "church" and it's affect on peoples rights is. You have a right to your belief but do not have a right to force that belief on others. Lose the religion arguement and realize this is a civil rights issue and more importantly in these economic times the chasing of yet another money making industry out of California by whacked politicians and laws. If it all moves to Nevada or Arizona, California and the taxpayers within California will suffer. Period. I myself could care less what a male adult film actor wears as I highly doubt I'd be looking at him!
"REPENT BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE!!!" I kinda think the FBI needs to take a close look at some of the birdbrains posting this drivel. A lot of suggestible people are raving about the end of the world being the only explanation for a Muslim president, and since we're all gonna die, let's kill some of God's enemies. Then they identify the mailman as one of those enemies, and here we go again. There are much hugher jasses than me in this world.
You are a crazy nut. You should really get out of your shelter and live life...
Not everyone believes in your GOD! Why do you believe everyone has to follow your beliefs! Why do Christian's believe they rule the world! Do you even know what unspeakable things your Christian followers have done over the centuries! Christians call the porn industry a SIN and yet find the horrifying actions of Christianity acceptable!
Spoken like someone who probably has the largest pr0n collection in the bible belt...
Your god has terrible aim. Missed L.A. by 3000 miles and killed innocent people.
You are right! I do not have the right to proclaim anything, however God does!! And He proclaims it in the scriptures and uses His people to proclaim it. Whether you believe in the God of the bible is not the issue because that in itself is sin. The reality is that God will judge every single human being, and if you have not repented of your sin, you will be cast into a very real hell. You don't need to believe it for it to be true. Instead of getting angry, seek to reconcile yourself with God by turning from your sins and believing in His Son, the Lord Jesus Christ, and obeying His commands before it's too late. Come out of the darkness and into the light.
"Whether you believe in the God of the bible is not the issue because that in itself is sin." Believing in God is a sin now? Wow. Religion has really changed, or else you are psychotic.
Please take your extremism back to the middle east where it belongs.
Seems that condom design just needs some work. Condoms are just latex and latex can look like anything. Ask any special effects makeup artist.
Equating yourselves with gays, minorities, and women? You make a choice to be in porn – those groups you listed made no such decision. I can see why this guy's in porn and not a respectable career.
There is a big difference between regulation and persecution. However, with all the idiotic anti-government hysteria, it's not surprising that some people don't understand that difference.
These are people who have chosen this life style and way of making a living. It's their life and I'm sure they work very hard (no pun intended) to stay disease and preg's free. Condom's will not be a plus for porn and it's a huge( agai. I n no pun intended) industry Let them alone and if you don't like them or their life style, then stay the hell off the porn sites, videos etc. I for one am glad to see many of them making a move to main stream, some have real acting talent and others are just easy on the eye
It's about time we held everyone in the entertainment industry responsible for what they portray. If you're doing porn, you should set a good example by making condoms part of the script. Hollywood needs to make it clear that bad guys are not glamourous, they're simply evil. They need to show the bad part of using drugs, not just the fun part. They need to show that people who do bad things to other people have bad things happen to them.
Dumb voters, californians always find a way to chase tax paying companies out of the state. Now we want to be paying enforcers tax dollars to be on porn sets making sure they are wearing condoms. It's their life if they want to expose themselves to diseases. In actuality, the adult industry has the lowest rate of disease transmission because they do mandatory testing. They are safer than the guy or girl that you picked up at the bar and had a one night stand with. Watch our tax revenue walk away to neighboring states.
I never got into porn. If you ask me it's boring. Its a billion dollar business, but who's watching it. Are that many people getting off watching a movie? Something's wrong..
Why does it have to be wrong John? If all these people are watching could it be that something may be right?
Hollywood just voted for more government and less freedom. How ironic that now they find it hard to swallow. Next time vote for smaller government.
Couldn't agree more – If you want government to stay out of your business, stop voting in Democrats!
It's a business, not their personal lives. Businesses should be regulated for the betterment of society. Minimizing std's and pregnancies is the goal, and a worthy one. We're currently in a situation created by "small government." It doesn't work.
Porn Star?!?!?! This moron looks like Screech without the curly hair.....Ugly bastid....
Patrick...if you do not have anything nice to say...
R U a Ron Jeremy fan?
We heard you were gonna enter the industry except for one small little drawback.
Also if you're going to insult someone please have the common sense to spell correctly
Patrick, I think people don't like your comments!
He is known as the ladies porn star. I have seen him and action and I concur. Wowie zowie. The man has some mad skills.
It's going to be hard to do the money shot with a condom on!
Don't forget the cream pies.
I say cutt off the heads of the condoms problem solved ....or take the industry somewhere else they will definately feel the effects of loosing a billion dollar industry
So, the law is intended to help him stay safe while he works....and he doesn't like it? Wow
He has the right to take that risk... Forcing.them to wear condoms will hurt there industry theres alot of people who will not.watch a scene because a condom.is used most people dont wear condoms in real life so they dont want to see it.in porn because they want alittle realism in the porn
Maybe, just maybe he is an adult and can decide for himself what protections he needs to stay safe....but then again, America now loves the Womb (if you can survive there) to the Tomb (not going to do well there) laws!
They require construction workers to wear hardhats for there own protection. Just saying..
Actually he's pretty safe without this new regulation. They all undergo testing before and after each shoot to ensure that nothing's being spread and nothing's being contracted. This measure does nothing that's not already being done. I get that regulations in general keep people safer but we are very slowly turning into Oceania from 1984. Let people make their own decisions, and if they get sick or injured, that's their fault.
Tom, new rule: you have to wear a crash helmet in the bathtub. It will keep you safe. Don't argue, we know best. And we'll be checking on you.
Sure the porn industry is big but I'm pretty sure there are many orders of magnatude of regular folks bumping nasties without condoms in LA at any given point in time. Useless law.
Kids and teens watch porn online nowadays without knowing much about it, perhaps they should get a hint that once they become willing and able, there are a few hygiene issues to tend to? But+-to-mouth is considered sooo cool by male viewers, butt its not all that yummy?
Yeah. Kids watch porn for life lessons. Hilarious! Where do you come up with ideas like that?
well it took me 3 hours and ahalf to find the porn i was lookin for,, its 1030 here in the backwoods of the south,, dammit , i have too take another 4
Repent Now... Turn Away from your sinful ways...
I'd rather laugh with the sinners than cry with the saints..
The sinners are much more fun!
There is no such thing as sin. There are only consequences of our actions. If you are willing to pay the consequences, then go for it.
Hinoki… Then you shall get your wish. However, I don't think they're be much laughter down in hell, and even less in the lake of fire and brimstone…
HAHA!! Fire and brimstone. Why don't you pack your laugh worth religious zealot ideas and take them back to the first century where they belong. You religious whackos are even worse than the people that think the world is going to end because of the Mayan calendar. Too funny.
"fire and brimstone".. seriously? If your version of god is so hateful that he'd send people to h#ll for having s#x then being in Heaven would be no better than H#ll and a heck of a lot more boring.
Saint Paul the persecutor Was a cruel and sinful man Jesus hit him with a blinding light And then his life began I said yeah I said yeah
Augustin knew temptation He loved women, wine and song And all the special pleasures Of doing something wrong I said yeah I said yeah You'll never make a saint of me.
" You religious whackos are even worse than the people that think the world is going to end because of the Mayan calendar. " My favorite is when they combine crazies and insist Jesus made the Mayan calendar.
Porn stars being persecuted & bullied ? Is California to conservative ? Look disease is nasty .! Everybody loves porn !
Protection from condoms is limited anyway. Creates a false sense of security.
Ah yes! Only in Krazifornia do they regulate industries to the point that they pack up and go elsewhere. Krazifornians had to vote for higher taxes because no businesses will build or locate there. A true model idiocy for sure.
So now the industry leaves LA and LA losses.... Good. More power to the market. Maybe one day they'll learn... Probably not but still... :-)
Dang.....no more creampies?
Mr Deen needs to educate himself on HIV. It can NOT be passed on by kissing, even deep open mouth kissing. Check out the body dot com for more information on HIV.
Don't they have incredibly accurate, quick tests now? Somehow I think THAT would be a better requirement.
HIV can be spread through deep open mouth kissing although it is rare.
They should have a choice if you want to or not .... Who are we to tell them how to.do.there job... They know they take that risk everytime but thats there choice.
You are spreading mis-information. The only way to pass it with a kiss is if BOTH parties have an open cut or sore AND exchange blood. Please cite the case(s) you describe. You don't have to believe me, go to the body dot com to read the facts on HIV; its been studied for over 20 years now.
HIV can pass through condoms as well.
He's talking about what the new law will require, not disease transmission.
now a days majority of people have gingivitis... scared!!!!!!
Id like to get it on with Jessica Alba, bust one off, and then tell the producer that I didnt like the angle and ask for another take.
Yes. What he said.
How specific is the wording in the law? If it just says they have to wear a condom, couldn't they just tie the thing around their wrists or something and go at it? That's basically what a lot of bikers did when the helmet laws came out. It just said you had to wear one, not on which part of the body so they'd strap them to their arms and such and roll.
We require construction workers to wear helmets. Miners carry about 20lbs of safety equipment.
Why NOT require porn actors to protect themselves. It's a job. You shouldn't risk your life unnecessarily for your job.
BTW, who's the jerk posting entire chapters from his own personal freak novel?
There is a difference - the product construction workers create does not show their heads (or any part of them) - so whether they wear hats or not does not impact on the final product. Whether porn actors wear condoms DOES impact on their final product - the film. Los Angeles has banned the production of a large category of (legal) porn films.
Assuming this ruling stands, it will not make the industry more health-conscious, because the real driver of an industry is sales. And condom porn does not sell as well, not by a long shot. If the ruling stands, the companies that want to make money will simply move out of Los Angeles... or go out of business.
"Is it worth it to migrate to Las Vegas, which is said to be welcoming with open arms?" he asked
Shouldn't that read, "is said to be welcoming with open legs"?
Now and then the worlds of porn and mainstream Hollywood meet. It's always iffy and tense because you've got the stars working alongside someone who has a reputation for being shady and doing things many consider gross. There might be fear of catching a disease that could end a career or a life. And it could damage your reputation to work with someone like that. Which is why I think it's pretty charitable of a star like James Deen to be willing to work with Lindsay Lohan.
Haha. Super funny, Deej59.
Funny... but seriously, I think there are antibiotics and cleansing scrubs he can use - so real risk of a terrible contagion.
Just add condoms during post production. Everyone happy.
except the people watching. condoms are gross.
Given the state of CGI, why do porn stars have to finish the act at all? Why not just computer it in. It'll make it look bigger anyway. LOL
The porn industry should just pack up and move out of LA. That place is a sweltering cesspool of human filth anyhow, they can do better.
Amen! The porn industry should TAXED to the MAX!
i thought that was why they were there in the first place.
I want to be the guy that has the job of making sure the rules are followed!!!
I'll bet you do.
the republicans need to keep their hands out of it people have a right to do whatever they want with their own bodies, so what if it spreads a little disease we can put a 1 or 2 percent tax on the rich and pay for it all not a big deal. Leave porn alone, leave drug addiction alone, its a free country. Well for 47%
Let me see if I understand this: California has been in full control of the Democrat party for the last 30 years and you blame Republicans for voting this into law???
Ted: Jason is working under the misconception that only the republican party wants to control our lives. Certainly they've been very active and very visible in that regard this election cycle, what with opposition to contraception, opposition to gay marriage, and so forth... Jason probably forgets that it was democrats in New York that banned large soft drink sales, and dems in San Francisco that banned happy meal toys, and dems in many places that banned smoking in restaurants and even in bars.
Basically, we now live in an age where EVERY politically active group thinks it's fine to try and control the personal lives of others. Maybe this isn't new - maybe it's always been the case - but it just feels more intrusive now, somehow.
I think he means they're being "penetrated".
The problem is that Mr. Marcus got syhliss, but he never told his female porn stars that he have one. He gave around 15 girls before he got tested. I support it.
They should all just say they are Catholics and birth control is against their religion. Claim religious persecution and raise a stink like churches did when they would need to give the choice of birth control to their employees
i met him...preppy looking and very sweet..if you didn't know him..you would never know what is real profession was!!! lol
Watching porn with condoms is like watching Obama speak without a teleprompter–boring to watch.
You obviously didn't watch the 2nd and 3rd debates, when teleprompters weren't allowed. You lost. Give it up. Get over it!
With a username like "Flesh Lite" it is easy to understand your "concern." Apparently, it is a solo act with you, and you do not want anybody telling you how to protect yourself from yourself. I would bet that your favorite adult actor was John Holmes or Long Dong Silver. You probably look at pictures of both when use use your username.
Obama would probably own you in the 'dimension dept.'
What a waste of skin YOU are. Go play with yourself.
How many of you clicked only because you saw the word P.O.R.N?
Im comin' for ya
An email went out globally to everyone a parent needed a healthy blood match asap at the firm from anyone for her child was not going to make it –i had the match, ran NYU hospital for all intense testing, including an aids test...next morning i received the call from medical i was a go for this child. i donated 1 1/2 pints to this newborn.
this child is in remission doing great and i received employee of the year for that. i'll never forget that moment–
i was always careful about my body and never lead a nutty x life...wasn't worth it to me...as a result..I was always a little picky in the x area - I dont have the problems other women have...never did.
Lindsay Lohan is mentally retarded.
Leave it to Californians to come up with a ridiculous measure like this.
Umm this wasnt a Cali Prop it was for LA county, and most of SoCal is very Republican. And this is a typical Republican law where they want to control your body.
What you do is move the entire industry to DC. They're been f***ing people since 1776. I'm sure you'd be welcome as long lost cousins.
Agree, this is what you get when Democrats do not use condoms.
I didn't know Mitt's parents were Dems.
Good one, Steve!
Actually it was founded in 1790, before that it was NYC. The reason they founded the DC was to quiet the rednecks. When will we ever learn?
Ha! That started my day off good.
It was actually in Philadelphia, not NYC
Where do I sign up to be the guy that watches all the new porn to make sure everyone is using condoms?
This guy wants to inspect men's privates for a living.
Third urinal to the left, kinda shifty guy who keeps winking. Tell him Akbar sent you for the special.
Where can I get an application for the monitoring police job?
An interesting career path indeed. The lineup to submit a resumé may be unusually long.
The Occupational Health and Safety Administration (OSHA) requires the use of personal protective equipment for many, many other working people so that they can be safe on the job. Many of the employees who have to wear those protective devices don't like them; complain about them; feel persecuted when management threatens them if they don't wear them. This porn star is no different. There is nothing wrong with porn starts protecting themselves while filming and the resistence to it is no different that what any many other workers try to pull. All they have to do is learn to deal with it, as othe workers do. Or, maybe we need OSHA to enforce the general duty clause on the porn industry. They can do a few inspections while they're filming and start handing out violations.
You said there is nothing wrong with porn stars protecting themselves, but that's not what this law is. This law is forcing a measure on an industry that actually doesn't need it, and that may be counterproductive to its purpose. The porn industry requires regular testing of its stars. They are self-regulated. Why should the government step in and take over that regulation (at the tax payers' expense) if the industry is already doing a good job of it? It would be one thing if there were rampant disease outbreaks and pregnancy issues in the porn industry, but there simply aren't. In addition, the whole industry is about promoting a fantasy, and sticking a rubber on it doesn't really help to accomplish that.
Yeah, but OSHA regulations involving protective gear are connected to actual workplace hazards involving heavy machinery or toxic chemicals. With adult entertainment it is based on stigma and mythology that is not backed up by actual health statistics within the industry.
These folks are independent contractors or free agents, usually...and the work place in question here is their body. Not a tremendous metal smelter, a bone grinder (pun intended), multi ton metal trucks carrying caustic materials......it is humans using their bodies with another human in a way they choose. This makes sense if you start charging everyone, everywhere, who does not use condoms with a crime unless they are planning for a child. Shoot, lets take all the risk out of it and only use harvesting and test tube techniques in a lab. Then, anyone catching VD ever must have violated the law and be punished. I argue that the adult entertainer of today with the hopefully rigorous testing standards is safer than those traipsing from bar to bar looking for the hookup. Unless they, too, are persecuted for not wearing protection, it is ridiculous to enforce a separate standard for the adult film 'star'.
What part of people are not going to watch porn where they wear condoms do you not understand?
Take a tip from Wall Street, it's a global economy.
Simple solution, LA does not like you business or the color or your money, move,
The industry move to Arizona??? LOL...
Consider porn Arizona Repub style.
-"Brace yourself, Beulah, ohohohOHOHAAAH," (total duration, 6 seconds). "Was that good, girl?"
-Beulah- "Snort, HEEEHAAWW."
That made me laugh out loud...
I think it would be better for them and all of humanity that these pervs rot to death with AIDs.. the sooner the better. They should never do anything to prevent them from getting perv diseases...
Personally, I really like porn.
Awww wussamatter, did the naky-butt people mommy and daddy were watching on the telly when you woke up in the middle of the night scare you, sweetie???
Did god tell you to say that? Did he tell you to spew that kind of hate?
Perv diseases? Jesus, I thought all you right wing whack offs were moving to Canada. Why are you still here?
Uh scuze me, WHO gave us the ability to bo ink?
Good point about all the republitards moving to Canada. Except Canada doesn't want them, neither does Australia. Maybe Mexico. Unfortunately all of these countries still get the interweb so most of these frackheads are here to stay.
"I think it would be better for them and all of humanity that these pervs rot to death" I'm guessing that you are not often consulted for your wise opinions.
How is this going to be enforced? This sounds okay as guidelines or recommendations. However, as a law it just seems unusual when it comes to enforcement.
Enforcement would be very straightforward. If a film is released that includes male performers without condoms, (a) that film would be illegal to distribute (i.e. money to be made on it), and (b) the makers and performers of the film would face penalty according to the law. I don't necessarily agree with the law but enforcement seems clearcut to me.
from what i have read on a few of these type of laws. way it works is. that enforcement fee is the salary of a site inspector. basicly. think of a construction site. having to pay the salarey of say a union safty inspector to stay on site during all working hours. there forcing them to employe a goverment employee basicly
Easy Abby, they are going to pay a police officer(s?) to sit all day and do nothing but watch porn, and if he once sees a condomless shot, BAM!
Way to use taxdollars wisely.
1st of all how do you know where it was shot if you enforce after the fact. Thats like saying you get fined for smoking in a non smoking area by them only seeing a cigarte butt in your car. 2nd this law is not for safty, if it was the porn actors would be the ones complaining about their own safty. This is just another azzbackwards republican law that want them to control your body and what you do. 3rd what about the fluffers, do they have to use a condom. Their work is not bieing filmed. 4th i can just see the cop he has to patrol the gay/bi/trany films 5th i guess this also means no creampies nor oral shots also, i guess it will Amish porn i guess
BTW i thought republicans dont believe in condoms since its againts god's intention to give life. Hypocrite Republicans.
So what is the big deal?
Film out of the county.....
With each job comes risks............why are we deciding that they need to wear condoms? The porn stars know exactly what their risks are. Aren't they tested every so many months for stds anyway? People probably spread more disease with the randoms people sleep with every day. At least the porn stars are regularly tested for disease, can we say that about the general population?
i do remember your birthday is this month –have fun
he did receive a "smackie" for buying me drinks asked me for my business card because i look great for 38 year old lololol
p guys all look preppie innocent until they get behind a camera!!!!
who was there said - Midge i see your doing some of your best work tonight–baaaaaaaahaaaaaaa cry cry–i'm 38 very difficult cry cry...gonna be 40 soon
it was very difficult turning what with 40 approaching and all.....
and it went on an on and on-hahahah
Who ever this idiot is i'll bet they weigh a ton,sit around all day typing and eating.Why don't you get up and get a job?At least get some fresh air,a little stroll around the block might help your fat azz,when you get home take a long shower because as much as you sit on your big butt you stink to high heaven lol.
good evening project
migrate to Las Vegas? you've got it all wrong take it to the white house, more like black house where all evil is accepted
Baby karma is a boomerang hahahahahahaha!
Oh booohoooo...
Please move to Canada or Mexico, we don't want your kind around here anymore.
Is somebody upset because his favorite Fascist lost the election?
Poor little one with the small part unsuitable for this industry. Can't get past the fact that the makeup of America is changing. Maybe you should do like this industry and move? Buh bye!
i responded yes i just turned 38 and he responds you look gerat for your age...baaaaaaaaawaaaaahooooo
Go Vegas its perfect for you sickos - sin city. I don't want you in L.A. Spreading your std infections and perverting peoples minds.
you go with your max q girl
Get a life... They aren't hurting you!
Got news for you babe, you know that story mommy told you about the babies and the stork? Ain't so...
Yes that terrible bo inking Mommy warned you about... is kinda scary isn't it little one? Human contact (shivers uncontrollably)
These guys are acting like they're getting screwed. Well, they can't act, and they certainly are getting screwed. With all this moanin and groanin, you'd think they wouldn't get off on this, but they seem to pretty hard up with this new ordinance. Maybe it's time they wake up from their little wet dream.
I agree. I mean come on, many people wear protection at work, steel toe shoes, hard hats, chef hat... Who gives a hoot. Put a sock on it, they can digitally remove it anyway, what's the big deal, no pun intended.
i see you had a big night "mik" - you forget we have the original-baaaaawaaaahaaa
People wear hard hats and other protective gear to satisfy the insurance companies. Those items don't generally greatly affect their profit marings, either. Obviously insurance isn't an issue for these guys, so why send Big Brother in? You could always be next.
Then stop spreading HIV/Herpes
Leave L.A.
2 nate higgers and cate hoons. U 2 must b having a good time doing each other. F off. Gdubglenn
Yeeeaaahh! I got number 100! I got number 100! I be da bomb!! Whar y
Hey jesus freak!! Where did u go?? Your lame posts got real old real quickly! Go back to pumpin your budy in da rump,,,,
Wow, that one post was longer than a male porn-star
RIP the money shot
RIP creampies
These days so many people hate big government but has no problem imposing it on other people. The porn industry has lots problems but this part of this bill does little to fix them. It does force a very profitable industry that people have enjoyed throughout the world since the dawn of time to relocate. I'm not saying condom use in porn is a bad thing, but I also understand that it doesn't sell. Porn stars are adults and in a free society they should be able to decide for themselves how they to be shown on camera. California is in a lot of debt and losing this revenue is not going to help grow their economy. The people need to look for real solutions to problems not create new ones.
Los Angeles and California are about to run afoul of the law of unintended consequences. With the existence and proximity of Las Vegas, plus let's not forget CA has some of the highest taxes in the US, and Nevada has NO personal state income tax...
I honestly can't imagine why that industry hasn't already moved there. Especially when you consider Nevada is already one of the who re capitals of the world, certainly of the US.
He thinks i'm 38...the lighting in here is purple that's why–see how i become on 2 drinks and bar nuts... i just giggle the night away!
get ready for this one mr & mrs lee are at the bar order drinks–baaaaaaaaaaaaaaawaaaaaaaaaaaahaaaaaaa- :)
I'd like to leave a large steaming poop on Lindsay's kitchen table.
a muscle man just sent over a drink to me...snappin smack on the way...lolololol
paste it paste it....hahahaha-gotta get home early...
"That's going to be a huge hit to Los Angeles." – Exactly. California has so many problems as it is. This will just add to it. The whole industry will leave out of state because of this.
As long as they don't go over seas, keep them working here in the USA. POrn stars need to pay bills, too.
past in war and peace–hahahaha–can we get it on the ipod? lololol
the word came through–interesting...check that out
Porn - whats the excitement?
Hint: It has to do with that unmentionable thing your wife won't let you do to her anymore. Something about the morbid obesity.
we can goof on pron butt from here right?
This clown is a real braniac!! What a post!! Mentally retarded people should not have access to blogs!!!
this is what she does 24 hours a day? no social life. yep jealous...
they don't have a butt head working on it–
we have firms that are NCIS capacity now.
No big deal...European bongo films are much better anyway...they have less of the "ooooohhh...ooohhh...aaarghhh" stuff which breaks one's concentration and detracts from the overall aesthetics and cinematography of the movie.
I'll bet you grew up getting copies of Playboy just so you could "read the articles."
before i paste in war and peace
they'll need to hire a lot of special effects guys to digitally remove the condoms in post
Wear a condom and shut up.
Actually, the 'wear a condom' part will take away a good part of the indutry's appeal... but the 'and shut up' part would flat out bury it.
I wonder if he administered a crisp anal cobbing to Ms Lohan...btw I'm going to need more toilet paper. My neighbor's cat is covered in poop.
Gotcha Pron Queen
while you commute to and from work...not a problem...
"I am disappointed. Not particularly about the law but about my community of adult entertainers being continually bullied and used by others," Deen told The Huffington Post in an e-mail (as he dumped a load on some porn chicks face.)
Condoms should not only be mandatory; they should be common sense. Adult entertainers persecuted? Give me a break. Are all manual laborers persecuted because they are required by the government to wear hard hats and other safety gear?
I can't rub one out without a good cream pie ending. Now excuse me while I take a steaming dump on my neighbor's cat...
Hopefully the p0rn industry can resolve this issue by one means or another. C0ndoms fall into the catagory of birth control. The p0rn industry is a legitamite business now, so they will be required to offer insurance to their performers, as well as already having to carry insurance on the business. And thanks to Nobamacare, guess who will be footing the bill for this law? Us. Another tax on the hardworking REAL AMERICANS, & thats the TRUTH
Your truth is the light, damn, can't stop laughing one that one. You never say anything truthful. What is your problem anyway? I handle the insurance for our company. Our rates have not risen, and the coverage is actually better for the employee. Having preventative care now being covered, is less out of our employees pocket, too. Oh, don't forget about having your kids on it until the are 26. Why don't you give it a rest? Nobody listens to you anyway, primarily because you are seldom right. We can all check the facts. You are like listening to Faux News. Just your uneducated opinion, with nothing based on facts. I used to like reading your comments, but you have gone off the deep end with your old, crotchity, white man opinions. Nobody cares! This is an entertainment blog. You are not entertaining anyone.
Hey little buddy, I got something special just for you. You are probably going to need that Obamacare when we are done, probably a soft pillow, too. How's that sound, huh Sokman?
Thing charlie crack, little buddy
Obama care only kicks in if you work over 30 hours a week.
ok tht person writing all that craps been annoying me all damn day long . noone want to read that crap .
This idiot can't even come up with any new bible verses. It is the same cr@p repeated 25 times in the same post. What a fricken loser!!!
You stupid bible thumpin freak. Go peddle your crazy somewhere else!! You can go back to pumpin your buddy in da poooper!!
CNN needs a word limit
ruining ..you hack you pray
end of story–
we're here alllllllllllllllll night
she's the most decent woman i know...and i am your babysitter tonight. disgusting
Totally am 4 it..just read an article about some adult industry worker who gave chlamydia or gonorrehia 2 a bunch of his co-workers so y the hell r they complaining about taking precautions? Really? Gimme a break!
if it was you earlier - i said no prob. so why? i said i would tell you everything you needed to know..not have much to tell..but i would answer any question...so why is this still happening? sweet dreams.
Just taking an opportunity to say "Jesus is Lord." He is a rewarder of those who seek Him!
1234, Jesus really rewarded Mittens and the christians with that landslide victory he just handed them! Here's a hymn to help you celebrate your "victory":
God's Song (That's Why I Love Mankind) by Randy Newman
Cain slew Abel Seth knew not why For if the children of Israel were to multiply Why must any of the children die? So he asked the Lord And the Lord said:
Man means nothing he means less to me Than the lowliest cactus flower Or the humblest Yucca tree He chases round this desert 'Cause he thinks that's where I'll be That's why I love mankind
I recoil in horror from the foulness of thee From the squalor and the filth and the misery How we laugh up here in heaven at the prayers you offer me That's why I love mankind
The Christians and the Jews were having a jamboree The Buddhists and the Hindus joined on satellite TV They picked their four greatest priests And they began to speak They said, "Lord, a plague is on the world Lord, no man is free The temples that we built to you Have tumbled into the sea Lord, if you won't take care of us Won't you please, please let us be?" And the Lord said And the Lord said
I burn down your cities – how blind you must be I take from you your children and you say how blessed are we You all must be crazy to put your faith in me That's why I love mankind You really need me That's why I love mankind
what does that mean to you–out for the evening –
its still abusing me and now when the other is not around...it needs babysitting again tonight. thanks
It's outrageous this punk would compare porn actors to gays and lesbians and other minorities which are denied their CIVIL RIGHTS just because a measure passed requiring them to wear condoms. I can see how the pain of wearing a condom would compare to the pain of not being able to sit by your lifetime partner on his death bed because you are not considered "next of kin". Ridiculous.
I just read this whole thing and you're still a tool
This law is so stupid, porn starts know exactly what risk they are taking if they do not use a condom. The porn stars get tested more often than most health professionals and every porn star has to submit these test to the production team to protect everyone involved. These days you do not hear about porn stars contracting STD because the industry is very proactive in making sure everyone is safe and clean before they do movies with out condoms. I hope the industry does move to Vegas, we need a good boost to our economy and porn is a multi billion dollar industry. So come to Vegas and you will be better off, besides there is no personal income tax in Nevada so you get to keep even more of your money!
I live in the valley. Why push people and the economy away? There will always be porn and I gladly welcome the industry to my community. Besides, Porn Star Karaoke night at Sardo's is priceless!!
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do you have an individual thought in your tiny little brain? who copies and pastes this crap? d-bag
Too long, didn't read
Go kill yourself.
Maybe Mr. Deen would like it if I rawdogged his mother from behind. Doesn't sound so appealing now, does it Deenie?
"if I rawdogged his mother from behind" Because her son complains about condoms? That's no reason. You probably just have a thing for older women.
I wana scat on your face.... Friend
I have researched this (not to be funny) there are pron actors that come from very normal households... they enjoys this because they get laid all day and make a ton of money. its true.
Sarah Palin has been known to wear her buttplug for more than 2 weeks straight. I would not want to be around when she took it out.
Who? Sorry, your reference is too obscure. Never heard of her.
Jag off
Well she does actually pull it out every time she stands in front of a microphone. BRRRRRRTTT.
Id whip out my 8 for a few movies
And of course you're in Europe so that's 8 centimeters. Say, impressive lil winkette.
So what L.A. is saying is we need money, and one way to get it is to lean on the porn guys. We'll tax them to create a watchdog to make sure they are playing by the rules, and create a fee for a permit to shot with condoms. In the end, we'll look like heroes for trying to make the industry "safer". Only the industry will tell L.A. to take their fee and shove it, and just produce their movies elsewhere. What genius thought this plan would work?
What type of cheese does one serve with this type of "whine"...
"Head" Cheese of course.
""Head" Cheese" THERE you go!
brie or camembert because they go all soft and runny like used-up porn stars...
Why do people always furk over the p0rn stars? Oh, wait . . .
they are hornbags....
Why are you allowing her to do this.
She crawled in while I was asleep and I didn't notice until- wait, what are we talking about here?
We'd love to have a billion dollar industry here in Vegas. Screw California and all their stuck up laws and persecution.
"Screw California" In the pr0n industry, this is called "lobbying."
the p guy actors dress very preppy..you know what i mean..what is that about. walking down the street they look like your basic good ole boy on their way to class....i find humor in this subject. lolol
Los Angeles can maintain itself with the porn industry, so I don't know what he's talking about. Porn is not a vital asset to the second largest city in the US. Maybe Las Vegas will welcome them, but Arizona...one of the most Republican states in the country?! Ha, that's funny...
Arizona Troopers will be allowed to do a DL check on p)rn employees to determine if they are lawfully allowed in the state – there, all the recently migrated P employees will be forced to relocate – because the Arizona governor will have just passed a law making it illegal for former p)rn residents from California to be there.
where have i seen him before? lol
on top of your mom.
"where have i seen him before?" Third urinal to the left? Keeps winking?
Do you think anyone is going to read this post ... you are wasting space
that post was perfect-for me to poop on !!
Your reply was very hard for me to get off too. Good thing my baby jesus flesh light is battery operated.
It is suppose to be a post not a book, NO one will read that...what a waste.
Better yet... Why don't you go watch some porn and rub one out!
Lady, please I love Jesus too – but this 25 paragraph mess is making Him look bad.
He/she is 'just like a musk ox running over the tundra'
Someone needs to get laid....
We spoke about this earlier my friend. Truncate. Look it up.
No one likes reading a comment that looks like a GD novel
Cool story brah.
no one reads posts longer than a paragraph. you're just wasting bandwith posting stuff like this.
I killed the battery on my phone scrolling past this you dick!
No disrespect dude...but I think your neurones are misfiring.
As much as I love Jesus, it's wrong and annoying for you to post like this. Repent!
every day I thank god for making me an athiest
You have WAY too much time on your hands. Get a job or volunteer... Just GTFO!
DAMN! That was the biggest pile I have ever read! Comment, dont blog like a ranting scitzaphanic
Do you really believe all that crap that you copied and pasted?
Do you really believe that even one person took the time to read any of it?
I stopped reading after your statement about fearing death. I know no such fear. In fact, I frequently face death, sometimes very closely, while canoeing whitewater rivers. I live for today, and I do not concern myself with fairy tale "life in the hereafter" where its gonna be like Sunday School for eternity. THAT would be my personal definition of hell!
Prayer and religion are for sissies that lack self-confidence and are unwilling to accept personal responsibility.
Hoo bwaaay. That was a long one (pun intended). Seriously though bud, and I mean this respectfully, ever considered the word 'truncate'? Just a suggestion. You'll get your point across, and some people will actually read your post.
My guess is you were unhappy on election night
never stopped hating your real dad huh?
Hey, any of you fairies wanna drop me your digits? I wanna pump your plump rump!! I also wanna schlob your knob!!
Lance, Nate's dad is his grandpaw.
CNN, do you mean to tell me you haven't picked up on the name of this poster YET? It's thinly veiled racism! From an ultra rightie who can't stand the fact that a black man is in the WH! Wake up!
Folks, this is a fine example of why cosanguineal s-e-x is such a threat to the health of society, and why there is such a proliferation of ADA-compliant and Special Ed facilities in the schools of the rural U.S...
This is exactly why the SpecEd schools are key! I attended the short-bus schools for many years, until they realized I was put into the wrong category. It wasn't that I was mentally handicapped, just socially retarded. I couldn't act properly around girls...they shunned my chunky frame. I ended up turning to the other team!! Now I be batting 1.000 for da flamin fairies! I can pump them plump rumps of chumps with the best of them. Partee down boyeeeee!
Bring back the report button
Please move to another country, you aren't welcome here.
What the? I just... I don't even...
Are you referring to a money shot or shooting an actual gun? Because if it's money shot, that's funny... but if it's a gun you're referring to, you've just threatened someone with bodily harm. Which is it?
Which is it?! Nice little try to scold him, on the internet.....If you seriously didnt pick up on his hate for porn, you need some more practice reading.
I am an Islamic extremist, and I approve of this message! Praise Allah! May the Christian version of Sharia law be just as glorious as ours.
Haha that's funny you still believe in god!
Haha funny joke. No one believes in god because he does not exist
This is unrelated to the topic. Tell me again...which commandment mentions condoms?
I am now god. I rule the world.
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'Will of the people' often subjected to tinkering
In the past decade, state lawmakers — Democrats and Republicans — have poked holes in voter-approved initiatives that restrained state spending, gave automatic raises to teachers and demanded more money for public schools, among others.
Seattle Times political reporter
OLYMPIA — As Gov. Chris Gregoire signed a bill clearing the way for tax increases Wednesday, the outcry was strong, just as it has been for the past several weeks as the measure inched through the Legislature.
"Can't you at least put up a facade that you are paying attention to what the voters are saying?" said Tim Eyman, sponsor of Initiative 960, after watching Gregoire sign the bill suspending for a year the requirement for a two-thirds vote of the Legislature — or a public vote — for any tax increase.
At times, the rhetoric from I-960 supporters has been incredulous and angry, as though voter-approved initiatives were sacred texts, never to be rewritten.
One Republican compared the Legislature's actions to a "total solar eclipse." Protesters have gathered on the Capitol steps and some lawmakers have received threatening e-mails, including one suggesting those who vote to overturn I-960 "should be hanged from the neck until dead."
But this is hardly the first time lawmakers have gone against the "will of the people" as expressed by initiatives.
In the past decade, state lawmakers — Democrats and Republicans — have poked holes in voter-approved initiatives that restrained state spending, gave automatic raises to teachers and demanded more money for public schools, among others.
Some of those measures won by much wider margins than I-960, which was approved by 51 percent of voters in 2007.
"The people who complain about this always pick and choose which initiatives they are complaining about," said Hugh Spitzer, an affiliate professor at the University of Washington Law School and co-author of a book on the state constitution, which lays out a balance of power between the public at large and elected officials.
The state constitution says the initiative process is "the first power reserved by the people," yet it allows the Legislature to rewrite any initiative with a two-thirds vote in the first two years. After that, it takes only a simple majority.
It wasn't always that way. Before a 1952 amendment, the constitution said the Legislature couldn't make any changes to initiatives for two years.
Curiously, given the strong feelings about initiatives today, the 1952 amendment was easily approved by voters. Judging from news coverage, it was scarcely controversial. An initiative legalizing the sale of yellow margarine — over the vehement protests of dairy farmers — proved far more divisive.
Since then, lawmakers have amended or repealed at least 30 voter-approved initiatives, according to Washington Secretary of State Sam Reed's office.
In the past decade, it's frequently been Democrats agitating against a series of tax limits implemented by voter initiatives, such as I-960. But Republicans have played a role, too.
In 2000, the Legislature punched a big hole in Initiative 601, a 1993 measure that created a strict state spending cap. Basically, lawmakers decided to use budgetary shifts to get around the I-601 limit. The bill to make that possible received crucial support from GOP leaders in the state House, which at the time was evenly divided between Democrats and Republicans.
Supporters and opponents of I-960 have spent a lot of time arguing about whether it should be given any more deference than the many others that have been watered down or repealed over the years.
Democrats like to point to Initiatives 728 and 732, both approved by big margins in 2000. Those initiatives demanded that the Legislature grant automatic cost-of-living raises to teachers and dedicate money to reduce class sizes in public schools.
Yet the Legislature suspended those requirements in lean times, and budget writers plan to do so again this year.
Rep. Zack Hudgins, D-Tukwila, said he's heard a lot of angry talk from Republicans about I-960's suspension, yet "I didn't hear that outrage" when the Legislature backed off the education initiatives.
Republicans argue there are some big differences between those measures and I-960.
The education initiatives gave no new funding to the state even though they required hundreds of millions a year in additional spending on schools. The voters-pamphlet statement on I-728 boasted that it could be funded "without raising taxes or taking money away from other programs."
When a 2004 initiative proposed raising the state sales tax by a penny to pay for better schools, voters overwhelmingly rejected it.
Meanwhile, voters have endorsed I-960's main provision — the two-thirds legislative vote requirement for tax increases — three times since 1993.
"It should be hard to go against the will of the people. It shouldn't be an easy thing," said Rep. Ed Orcutt, R-Kalama.
Orcutt noted that I-960 provides an "out" for legislators if they can't get a two-thirds vote in the Legislature for tax increases. They can send any proposed taxes to the ballot for voters to approve. Democrats have ruled that out.
In signing the bill suspending I-960 on Wednesday, Gregoire noted that voters had approved the measure before the current economic crisis.
"They did it in a time when we weren't facing the greatest recession in the state of Washington," Gregoire said. The bill suspends the initiative until July 2011.
Eyman who stood just behind Gregoire during the bill-signing ceremony, made a thumbs-down gesture and held his nose for the cameras. He's already filed a new initiative to restore the two-thirds requirement for tax increases.
While he'd expected lawmakers to throw out I-960's restrictions on tax votes, Eyman said he was shocked they also axed "transparency" requirements, including advisory votes on any tax increases approved by the Legislature and a requirement that the names of lawmakers voting for tax increases be printed in voters pamphlets.
Gregoire said those provisions were of questionable worth and printing the information in the pamphlets would be costly.
Spitzer, the UW law professor, said initiatives place unrealistic demands on the Legislature, and it makes sense that lawmakers frequently need to revisit them.
"I have a simple solution: Every initiative which institutes a new program must provide a tax source. Every initiative that cuts taxes must specify in detail which programs would be cut," Spitzer said.
That's unlikely to happen.
But the public this fall may get to judge the Legislature's actions twice. Voters could be voting on Eyman's latest initiative, assuming it qualifies for the ballot. And voters will get a chance to reshape the Legislature, with the entire state House up for election.
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Syllabification: cen·tral·izePronunciation: /ˈsentrəˌlīz
Definition of centralize in English:
1Concentrate (control of an activity or organization) under a single authority: a vast superstructure of centralized control
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- Under increasing demands from the environment, organizations tend to centralize control and, like individuals, filter information more heavily.
- Second, the NAACP is a highly centralized organization, with a bloated executive board.
- Marsh's grip tightened when it centralized control of broking activities in New York.
concentrate, consolidate, amalgamate, condense, unify, streamline, focus;
British rationalize
1.1Bring (activities) together in one place: the ultimate goal is to centralize boxing under one umbrella
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- 'There is an argument for centralising the work of the Circuit Court but there is no valid reason why people should have to leave their area to do the work of the district court,' said Deputy Ring.
- As we said in our last generic article on the subject, a PC is really the best way of centralizing your home entertainment content in all its different forms.
- She pushed the regional offices to consolidate from 13 to 4, and established shared processing centers to centralize certain tasks and make their cost structures more scalable with demand.
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