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I've been leaving the scapes on my hostas over winter, so as not to spread any diseases by cutting them. As a result I have hundreds of open pollinated seedlings growing everywhere. Most are green, yellow or blue. Since most of my hostas are in beds under trees, I have a lot of spaces between my hostas because the trees' roots make it difficult to dig adequate holes for nursery grown hostas. I decided to use my OP hostas, which germinated in the ground without any help from me (they have to be tough), as fillers in the empty spaces. As the named varieties grow I can eliminate those OP seedlings that don't show promise. If you look closely there's a little blue seedling to the left of June Spirit ... tenacious little thing which was hanging on to the ground by the end of just one root. I top dressed with a bit of compost and it seems to be doing fine. |
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I trnsplanted the blue seedling in fron of Summer Breeze. The two inner leaves seem to be developing a white edge. There are two more seedlings above SB as well. |
- Posted by moccasinlanding z9A AL (My Page) on Wed, Jul 2, 14 at 22:05
Irawon, a real "do it yourself" hosta factory in your garden. I'd be so pleased to find some seedlings! And you so nonchalantly say "most of them are green yellow blue." To have ONE would be great. A yellow one? I'd be so excited! Hey, I'm pleased that we are spending time in our gardens for simple LOOKING. My time is at twilight. Other folks in the early hours. Now that we have worked hard in creating the spaces, it is only right to appreciate the fruits of labor. |
Thanks, Mocc , I enjoy your hostas and your commentaries. Just leave the scapes on over winter and the seedlings will come... no kidding. The two green hostas to the right of Pineapple Upsidedown Cake are seedlings. |
- Posted by almosthooked 5 a BC (My Page) on Wed, Jul 2, 14 at 22:26
Moc , When the seed pots were ripe, I cut all mine off and placed each one under the plant it came from . I thought I have 11 of them until a fer days ago and many more are started right under the mother plant. So far I have left them all because it is my first luck at growing anything from seeds. I can always find some corner to put them in when they grow or give them to my three kids or neighbours that don.t have hosta and like the Green Ones. Names not important to them anyway |
I can't believe the number of seedlings I've gotten from Deep Pockets ( 3 and 5 o'clock, some I've moved already). There are also yellow seedlins top left of DP. |
The next pictures show no seedlings, although a yellow one remained in the lawn after my husband cut it. Hosta Teatime. |
OMG irawon I would love to have seedlings, and I do leave the scapes on, but most of mine don't send too many scapes out yet too young. I have one bed with older hostas and they grow scapes. I think I may have too much mulch for babies to grow. On the other hand I pick out everything that looks like a weed....so maybe I'm pulling out tiny baby hostas??? If I left just dirt omg too many tree seedlings from my yard or neighbors yard would grow.......too much of them as is with my mulch. |
Ironic, the one photo I went out to get this morning...Ogon Tachi with blue Tradescantea in behind... I didn't get to take because by the time I got to it the blossoms on Tradescantea had closed. Last picture... Jack of Diamonds. Thanks for looking. Please feel free to show me your gardens. i always love to visit. |
- Posted by moccasinlanding z9A AL (My Page) on Wed, Jul 2, 14 at 23:12
Irawon, you and Faye have seedlings everywhere! Your Teatime is looking fairly mature...how old is it, Irawon? I have my Teatime positioned as part of a trio, Three Graces, with June and English Sunrise. I also placed My Cup Of Tea, Tea At Betty's, and Tea And Crumpets to fill out the grouping. I know, it is an even number unless you look at it as 2 sets of threes. :) I have my own theme garden going on! I plan to move the two real tea trees (camellia sinensis) into the grouping. I did not spend much time outdoors today, except moving waterhoses. And spreading a bit of mulch and moving some pots to clear the next area for mulching.It was 110 on our back deck, beneath the umbrella. Not favorable for heavy labor. |
Beautiful! Your hostas are amazing. I get seedlings, but they seem to like to germinate in between the bricks our sidewalks are paved with. I have one that my nephew "rescued", that is definitely an Elegans seedling with huge leaves, but it is a light apple green instead of the waxy blue. I don't have a tremendous amount of space left, so I give away the seedlings to co-workers who are always asking for plants. |
Hostacats, You're probably right. Mulch might stop your hosta seeds from germinating..depending on the mulch. I don't have great soil... clay for the most part and I've had seedlings germinate in the light mulch made by the squirrels munching on spruce and pine cones. I also get loads of spruce and maple seedlings but they're easy to pull out. You could do as Faye does ... remove the mulch under your hosta and put the seed pods under the foliage. |
Mocc, temps yesterday were brutal and we were at a garden party from 2PM on for Canada Day. The weather was more tolerable today. I'm still moving stuff around...and the weeding is never ending. I've seen pictures of your hostas... they're gorgeous... your dedication is sure paying off. I'd love to give you some of my seedlings but I live in Canada. I bought my Teatime in August 2010 and had it planted with Teaspoons and Tea and Crumpets. I can't remember why I moved it to its present location. Your grouping with June (blue/yellow) and English Sunrise (yellow) sounds smashing. i would love to see a pic. |
- Posted by Don_in_Colorado 6a (My Page) on Wed, Jul 2, 14 at 23:52
Always love to see pics of your garden, irawon. Looking really wonderful. Here is one of mine I don't think I've posted. From about a month ago. Cheers, |
Irawon I will try what faye has said and done....I may as well try. Love to see pictures of what people post also, gives me an idea what I can look forward too. I do have BLUE ANGEL three plants that I didn't realize get gigantic.......I will have to move sooner or later. Two of them are close to a border walkway. It is dark now so can't take pictures.....want to see? One is new from this year before I found out about HVX....the other is tucked by the step of the deck, he is I think only three years old, but he's already showing an OMG reaction from me, and still a baby. |
Playinthemud, Thanks for the nice comments. And I love your handle. I got some tiny green seedlings from a friend who said they were under one of her mother's large hostas, she doesn't know which. The seedlings were so tiny that I originally planted them with my minis. I thought they may have come from Elegans or maybe Blue Angel. They have developed quite a nice colour. Here's Lovely Lorna. |
- Posted by Don_in_Colorado 6a (My Page) on Thu, Jul 3, 14 at 0:23
That IS lovely, irawon. The color of your seedling is one of my favorite shades to be found on a hosta. I hope it keeps it's color just the way it is. Has a nice mound habit, too, in my opinion. Don B. |
I ended up with 3 LLs. One I planted near Blue Angel and the colour was identical but I've since moved it with the other two. The one that I moved is the only one that has bloomed so far as it got more sun. The flowers are really pretty. I'd like to see your seedling, Playinthemud. |
Don , Thanks for the compliment. I think LL will require shade to keep its bloom. Don, your hostas are looking great, healthy and pristine. The slugs, cutworms, and earwigs are starting to feast here. Thank God for cropping. LOL |
- Posted by Hostanista 5B (Ont) (My Page) on Thu, Jul 3, 14 at 11:02
Irawon -- your hostas and gardens are beautiful. Love your companion plantings with them too. You have a great eye for combinations. I'm such a neat freak I always cut off the scapes after flowering (unless I want to try seeding them myself indoors over the winter) but with the success you've had with just letting them do their thing, you've inspired me to leave the "mess" and see what happens next year. Thanks! |
- Posted by paul_in_mn 4b (My Page) on Thu, Jul 3, 14 at 11:12
Irawon, thanks for a peek at your gardens and seedlings, beautiful. Paul |
- Posted by hostahosta Z6OH (My Page) on Thu, Jul 3, 14 at 14:30
Irawon: What is the hosta in your first photo, right side, blue with creamy white edges? Very pretty. |
Thanks everyone for looking and sharing pictures of your hostas and gardens, now and in the past. I've learned a lot from every one of you. Hostahosta, the hosta is Aristocrat. |
- Posted by hostahosta Z6OH (My Page) on Thu, Jul 3, 14 at 19:37
I thought so. I have Aristocrat, but not as lovely as that. |
- Posted by newhostalady 6 (My Page) on Thu, Jul 3, 14 at 20:11
Irawon, it is lovely to see your garden. Your plants look happy and the little seedling hostas are so cute! I especially love your Aristocrat! I think I got to get me one. |
- Posted by robotropolis z6a (My Page) on Fri, Jul 4, 14 at 9:26
Thanks for sharing pictures of your beautiful garden and interesting seedlings! I hope I have some seedlings someday :) And I don't accidentally weed them out... PS I love your blue sedum in the first picture. Gonna have to go looking for one of those. |
Thanks for the kind words, Robo. I thought I was pushing the envelop by using sedum as a filler where I had difficulty digging holes for hostas but I'm surprised at how accepting it is of part shade. I'm afraid my grass, festuca Elija Blue from last year didn't fare out as well. I don't know why I have so many seedlings in three of my 10 hosta beds... trying to figure that one out. I don't think you will have any trouble with weeding the seedlings out because they are easily identifiable. Here's the picture I was trying to get of the Tradescantia behind Ogon Tachi. does anyone know why the blossoms close by mid-day? |
Newhostalady, thank you for looking in. You won't regret getting Aristocrat...it's been a pretty good grower, virtually problem free. |
This post was edited by irawon on Fri, Jul 4, 14 at 15:06
- Posted by moccasinlanding z9A AL (My Page) on Fri, Jul 4, 14 at 16:10
Spiderwort closes up early here also. Have no idea why. Of course, mine is wild and it comes up where it pleases, mostly in the lawn which drives DH wild. |
I know mocc, Spiderwort, especially the blue and pink ones seed pretty freely, even in our walkways. I have to keep after them or they would take over the whole yard. The yellow-leaved variety,'Sweet Kate' is infertile, I think... I've only been able to propagate it by clump division. It's flowers are a deeper shade of blue too. |
- Posted by josephines67 5 ON (My Page) on Fri, Jul 4, 14 at 17:20
Spiderwort/tradescantias close midday due to hot temperatures (my take on this...have several/many) but I did notice that the ones growing on the north side of the house stay open much longer. Each flower last a day, just like a day lily and it continuously blooms for months.... if you rip out the stalks just as blooms are almost finished, you may get re bloom late in the season. Bees do a great job of cross pollinating. I must have four different colours from just the original two. :-) Irawon, your gardens are a pleasure to view! So lovely and neat and tidy with many wonderful companions. Makes me feel right at home! (because of familiar plants) |
- Posted by luckyladyslipper MA 5b-6a (My Page) on Fri, Jul 4, 14 at 19:34
I'm drooling over these gardens. What artists there are on this site! I have 2 questions: How do those of you who use pretty groundcovers (lamium, etc.) between hostas keep them from taking over? Do the hosta seedlings grow up to be true to their parent? |
Geesh, Josephine, how do you know that about Tradescantia, by observation, or have you read something... sounds like a reasonable explanation. Thanks, Josephine, I guess I'm an overachiever where weed control is an issue... I always have the feeling that they will take hold and I won't be able to do anything about them. There are several in my garden now that are pretty invasive and tenacious, especially with our herbicide laws, with which I'm not in total agreement. |
Luckyladyslipper, I'm not really knowledgable on the subject but I don't think seedlings are a true replica of the mother plant, just like the mother of a human being doesn't produce a replica of herself. A human mother with the same father produces offspring that are not identical because of natural selection, wherby each offspring acquires different attributes from each parent. I'm led to believe this is the same with hostas. This is what I have learned as a member of this site: the pod parent is the mother and the pollen parent is the father and the bees do the crosspollinating. What I find fascinating is that some mother hostas can produce offspring/ seedlings by using her own pollen ( with the help of bees). The offspring, then states that his/her parentage is "mother hosta selfed". I'm not certain about this but it's my assumption that a seedling under a certain plant may be able to assume that the mother plant nearby is the pod/mother parent. A question that I have wanted to pose is how do you determine the father/pollen parent from an open pollinated hosta. For example, is it possible for a bee to pollinate from one end of the yard to the next or is it more likely that the pollen parent/ father is close by? Help, I'm a real novice on this subject. |
- Posted by almosthooked 5 a BC (My Page) on Fri, Jul 4, 14 at 21:14
lol luckladyslipper. The old saying is you may only have one mother but who knows the father. Is this where the saying is ":who's your daddy?" |
Thanks for the garden tour. Beverly |
- Posted by moccasinlanding z9A AL (My Page) on Fri, Jul 4, 14 at 23:30
One version is "It is a wise child who knows his own father." But the one I like, and I hope DonB gets to use it, is |
- Posted by lavendargrrl 7b Apex, NC (My Page) on Sat, Jul 5, 14 at 2:23
Thanks for all the awesome photos from your gardens! Your hostas are quite lovely, irawon. I have some seedlings growing as well where I've left the scapes and seed pods in place when the flowers are finished. I have a hard time pulling them out, and I leave the ones I think are pretty. There are some hostas that are known for producing more streaked seedlings (I believe Korean Snow and William Lachman are a couple that fit that description. I used to have them both, but I don't think they survived for me. I also have a species hosta that has seedlings that look just like the mother plant (kikutii). I think Ventricosa does the same. Often seedlings don't favor the plant that the seeds came from much if at all. I especially like yellow and blue seedlings! |
- Posted by josephines67 5 ON (My Page) on Sat, Jul 5, 14 at 2:52
Irawon, I've loved tradescantias for many, many years. My comments/observations are from experience with growing them in my own garden and from what I've learned from reading my books and magazines. Have always been crazy about perennials. I still have not picked up any annuals this year, likely won't. I have colour everywhere in my yard regardless. I'm just a very enthusiastic gardener - perennial gardener. Years ago when I dreamt of owning my own nursery, I kept repeating an acronym for a name in my head...PLC...which stands for Perennial Loving Care. :-) |
- Posted by Don_in_Colorado 6a (My Page) on Sat, Jul 5, 14 at 17:42
Mocc, Hoosier Daddy is almost back to being a Hoosier Harmony. No big surprise, but still, kind of a bummer. Sorry, Mocc. However, I'll send you a piece of gold Earth Angel as a consolation/apology gift, if you would like. It would be my pleasure. What is hosta happiness without it being shared. I'll just grow it out until fall, and send you an eye when the weather is cooler. I just took some pics of it. I'll start a new thread for it after I transfer the pics to my PC. Don B. |
Lavendargirrl, I'm like you and have a hard time weeding out any seedlings. I was just out a while ago and there are all kinds of tiny hostas still coming up everywhere. I'm going to leave them until they develop 4 leaves and then I'll decide whether to cull them or not. It's my objective to have one streaked hosta in each of my hosta beds because what I understand is that that's the only way you're going to get variegated hosta seedlings. I only have 2 right now: Dorset Clown and Ice Age Trail. |
Josephine, I do think you missed a calling. I've been impressed with your perennial knowledge and your ability to grow hostas, even back to health as well as growing them in pots where I have failed miserably. |
Moc and Don, Good, gosh, golly I was fully expecting someone like Ken to poke all kinds of holes into my observations to Luckylady slipper about natural selection and then you (moccasin) came up with: "It is a wise child who knows his own father." Loved it. I'm looking forward to a thread of Hoosier Harmony but it wouldn't bother me one bit if the discussion happened here on this thread. |
- Posted by lavendargrrl 7b Apex, NC (My Page) on Sat, Jul 5, 14 at 18:47
irawon, sadly my only streakers are missing in action. I used to have Korean Snow and William Lachman. Maybe I will make a point to get one or two next year. |
Beverly, Sorry I missed your comment. it is truly appreciated. I'm getting myopic in my old age. |
- Posted by moccasinlanding z9A AL (My Page) on Sat, Jul 5, 14 at 19:37
Irawon, I thought you did a great job of explaining the birds and bees. Much better than the book/pamphlet my mother gave me back in the day. Such a great story the way you delivered it. Who can criticize such straightforward honesty? I loved it and even understood it, eh. |
Irawon, thanks for posting pictures of your lovely garden, some of us will just have to admire from afar. I am out of real estate for now, energy to dig and excuses to get more hostas this year. To luckyladyslipper, I grow 2 kinds of chartreuse lamium (beedham white - broght yellow chartreuse with a nice clean white strip down the center of each leaf, with pure white flowers, and a darker chartreuse one with faint white line down the center of each leaf with bright pink flowers) on my raised hosta bed with sweet woodruff sprinkle around, they are really pretty and such a nice low cover to keep the weeds out, and haven't notice it taking over. I have had them for 3 years and they grew exactly where I planted them and filled out quite nicely. They do like some sun. Not sure if that is long enough time to determine if the will be invasive, but so far so good. Sweet woodruff on the other hand... . is more of a free spirit and will grow where ever they want, but it is easy to just pluck them off where they are not wanted. I still think they are pretty enough to keep, those neat & perfectly formed leaves with the starry white flowers are so unique, and makes such a nice contrast with the hostas. Here's a photo of my 2 kinds of lamium & sweet woodruff with a newly planted teaspoon. |
This post was edited by maow on Sun, Jul 6, 14 at 9:10
maow, My lamium will grow nicely for a year or two. Both kinds I have are still alive, one barely, the other one had lots of dieback on it, but still alive. I thought it was because of where I live and the really cold spring we had, but sounds like everybody had an aweful spring. So my heucheras and hostas that died maybe had more to do with the weather then??? |
Mauw, Thanks for taking an interest in this thread. I have the lamium on the right of your picture and it remains in a pretty clump, not invasive at all. I eventually moved my Pandora's Box to another spot because I got tired of trying to keep it from being devoured by Sweet Woodruff... not great with the minis. Here's a picture of Alex Summers in a bed of SW in early June and he doesn't seem to mind it a bit. |
- Posted by josephines67 5 ON (My Page) on Sun, Jul 6, 14 at 19:54
Irawon, your comments are very nice, thank you so much. |
- Posted by tropic_lover 6UT (My Page) on Sun, Jul 6, 14 at 20:49
Irawon, Your garden is spectacular! I keep going back to look at the first picture. It is just so pretty! I love the color combination that you have used. What is the blue ground cover? I think it really ties it all together and looks great with the hostas in the picture. What is the name of the blue and white hosta at the base of the tree? I need to get that one LOL. Thanks for sharing! |
'A question that I have wanted to pose is how do you determine the father/pollen parent from an open pollinated hosta. For example, is it possible for a bee to pollinate from one end of the yard to the next or is it more likely that the pollen parent/ father is close by?' - Irawon Yes pollenation can be from a hosta across the yard. The only way to select the father is to cover the scape of the desired 'mother and also the father (as pollen from other plants could cross contaminate this pollen as well) The scapes would be pollenated by hand and then covered again. This is the only way to ensure you have the hybrid or you have seedlings from the same type of hosta. if desired. I know this is done with Irises and probably with a whole host of other plants. It would be a nice thing to try, but I think that hosta seeds rarely reproduce desired characteristics. It is like seeds for Blue Spruce that don't come close to grafted specimens. It takes thousands of tries...but, who knows. It is fun to have seedlings and try. Jon |
- Posted by josephines67 5 ON (My Page) on Sun, Jul 6, 14 at 21:22
Irawon, you and I like and grow a lot of the same perennials!...like the little blue ground cover sedum Jon is asking about. Tell him about the flowers! :-) |
Irawon. Your Alex summers is gorgeous, is it in all dsy shade? Does the color stay the same soft green and blue all season?, or does it get darker later on? How do they compare in color to Tokudama F.? |
Hi Linda, The blue and white hosta is Aristocrat.The margin is yellow first thing in spring. The blue groundcover is sedum cauticola. It stays small in my garden and self seeds freely. Edited to add that the sedum gets pink flowers later im the summer and that they are pink. |
This post was edited by irawon on Mon, Jul 7, 14 at 14:45
Jon, thanks for the info about the pollen parent of an open pollinated seedling. Good to know that the pollen could be from a pollen parent across the yard. I have only 2 streaked hostas in 2 beds that could produce variegated seedlings, so potentially the pollen from these could get to the other beds. I also have many spruce and pine seedlings sprouting up in my beds. I didn't know that they wouldn't be true to the species. |
Jo, I especially like perennials that still maintain a good structure/appearance after blooming like astilbe, but don't limit myself to those. I just recently bought 2 helleborus which I never tried before, the foliage is still quite nice after blooming. I'm looking forward to their blossoms early next spring. I hope they overwinter well. |
Mauw, I'll take a look and take pics of my TF and AS as soon as I can. I have to go for an appointment now. |
Mauw, My Alex Summers is planted in the middle of a bed under three limbed up blue spruce. It doesn't get much direct sunlight. My Tokudama Flavo has the same growing conditions. I looked but I couldn't find any late summer pictures of the two. The first AS picture was taken on June 3. This one I took today. |
This post was edited by irawon on Mon, Jul 7, 14 at 15:10
This is T. Flavocircinalis, today, for comparison. The thing that I really like about A. Summers is it's upright habit. |
- Posted by josephines67 5 ON (My Page) on Mon, Jul 7, 14 at 15:41
You will love the easy to virtual non-maintenance of your hellebores! Mine are under the deck for 4 years now....evergreen leaves which stay pristine all season. No problem here with winters. These are tough perennials. Unless you have room for lots of foliage (which I don't) you have the option of cutting away all of last year's foliage in the spring. You will be rewarded with lots of new leaves and the beautiful blossoms will be front and centre. They look great amongst hostas! |
Irawon do you live on an acreage?? Does anybody else live on an acreage or farm?? The rest of us garden in the city like me..... Michelle |
Moc, thanks for the approval re my birds and the bees story and I didn't miss the "eh". Jo, I'm looking forward to the first hellebores blooms in my garden early next spring. I bought 2 plants from Loblaws because I liked the foliage. I planted one that I could enjoy from my kitchen widow and another near the front walkway to the front door. |
Hi Michelle, We moved to a country lot in 1977. We could see cows in the fields outside our bedroom window and sandpipers in our back yard. All the good farm soil had been stripped fom our property.. which we tried to replace and seeded for a lawn. We bought a lawn tractor before we bought curtains. There was only one elm tree in a back corner and that died. We planted trees and developed beds, made some bad decisions. I wish we had had the info available that is available online now. Presently, we have over an acre of land. Suburbia has caught up to us. The properties that are being sold around us now have postage stamp lots. My daughter's new home is on one of those small lots. The sky used to be black at night. Now I can see the lights from a nearby Walmart. I feel lucky to have the amount of greenery that I have around me. Recently, I was asked by one of the owner's of one of those postage sized lots whether I resented them and I said no, my reason being that all I wanted them to do was the best with the land they had. |
This post was edited by irawon on Tue, Jul 8, 14 at 9:04
Oh my Irawon the city is starting to crowd you out!! Sounds like Calgary where my husband comes from. Where he grew up was outer edges of the city parks etc....now the city expands for miles beyond where he grew up. I believe he moved to Saskatchewan in 1989 when his parents moved this way. I grew up on a farm not far away from this city, and I've lived here since 1983. But gardening like I am now and hostas has only become recent.....hostas only last 4-5 years actually. Michelle |
- Posted by almosthooked 5 a BC (My Page) on Mon, Jul 7, 14 at 22:31
I have lived it the same place my three children were raised . It is a 18.9 acres, with a view of Shuswap Lake and about 1/2 plus miles from where my kids went to elementary school. We have seem people come and some neighbors go and I am among the last of 3 that were the first on the hill. Kids are all grown and moved away and now that I am retired and remarried , I have the time to make my gardening parents proud to be a gardener. We have outside and inside pets as in horses , donkeys cats and dogs to keep us occupied when not gardening. Approximately a 3 acre yard with mature tree that we planted many years ago. Perfect place to grow hosta with loads of shade. One daughter just had her 30 yr grad reunion so our age is showing . Skies here are still quite dark except the street lights the one neighbor insisted we needed and on a almost quiet dead end road in which Mctavish Myrle lives with her husband and 900 hosta and a couple cats and a dog. Always nice to have someone close with the same interests in gardening and they will have to carry me out before I ever want to move. Interesting to know if I am the only one that lives in the same place since 1972. and on an acreage or city lot. Many changes in our home and yard since it had been an old apple orchard ripped out years before we bought . and just a field. The last three years has been a whirlwind of planting and changes after the hosta big hit Hope I never bored the heck out of everyone |
Faye I am not that old but not that young. My oldest is 29, second is 24 and my third is 17. There isn't much to choose from in hostas or other plants in this city. If you want selection you have to go to Saskatoon and then they seem to have the same old stuff over again with a few different names, but always too expensive for me. I have four cats in the house all male but I did grow up on a farm, and because I came from a large family of nine kids we had massive vegetable gardens and potato fields we had to weed by hand. I hated it and stayed away from anything gardens for YEARS!! Then I slowly started but since we weren't rich we did not grow or spend money on flowers at the farm, my parents just did vegetables to feed all us kids. Interesting.... |
- Posted by almosthooked 5 a BC (My Page) on Mon, Jul 7, 14 at 23:13
lol hostacats, I guess this makes me as old as dirt in your eyes . I too came from Sask. and still have relatives in S;toon. We lived 3 hrs south west of there in a really small town. would I move back? no |
Faye I appreciate all the help I can get with this forum since I am so new!! I will not think you are as old as dirt, I will think you are very experienced. What is the name of the small town?? You moved away a long time ago. You would not move back to the small town or Saskatchewan??? I don't want to move to a large city...besides even though I have not been hosta gardening for many years I have spent enough money on that, my yard, the big pond, and all my koi. Do you know where Jackfish lake is?? michelle |
- Posted by almosthooked 5 a BC (My Page) on Tue, Jul 8, 14 at 0:13
Yes I kind of know where it is, as a kid we useto go on a holiday in the summer to Jack Fish Lake and various places around North Battleford. I came from a small place called Laporte ( near Kindersley) I use to go back home before my parents passed but not since, The wind never quits where I came from and remember mom having flowers that always winter killed and she would try the next season again. Northern Sask has trees but the only ones around where I grew up wer planted by my mom and dad or cariganna hedges to keep the snows from blowing. I have 6 goldfish but not friendly enough to name. I also have a waterfall area we put in last fall bit no big pond. I think your lake town has grown since I was there but remember fishing and sleeping in a cold tent ha ha and bears |
I grew up on a farm not far from Jackfish the hamlet, and close to jackfish lake. My cabin is on that lake small town of Meota, but it has become a bedroom community now, not many cabins left. I live in North Battleford, and yes the Kindersley area is much windier than here. My husband grew up in Calgary and wanted to return, but, I don't want to leave, for a city lot I have a bigger than normal backyard, and I've spent too much time and money on it. I'm staying. My parents are both still alive age 79 and 80. |
Michelle, I'm not feeling crowded out at all because my little neighbourhood is still zoned rural and since we are on wells, our properties have to remain at least a 1/3 of an acre in size. Traffic has increased though but I'm retired, so that doesn't affect me that much. I do miss the the dark skies at night though. Faye, your place looks like a little piece of heaven. I can't imagine looking after 18 acres plus. Our place is starting to get a little too much for us and DH and the kids are saying it's time to downsize... I will miss my hostas. |
- Posted by moccasinlanding z9A AL (My Page) on Tue, Jul 8, 14 at 12:11
Irawon, when you said you miss the dark skies at night, I felt a kinship. Indeed, I have often remarked about the years I drove through I-10 through Mississippi and it was a dark sky I could count the stars. I always left to drive to work late as possible, and it was just myself and the moon keeping pace with me. Now the same drive is lit up nine ways from Sunday, with a purple haze in the sky from all the casino development near the Gulf beaches. What chance do fireflies and stars have in a place like that? I know it is bound to come to my White Dove garden too, what with the street lights invading my peaceful evening garden. Twilight is the best time, before those intrusive lights come on. It is too much! Blocking these lights from my garden is another reason for my 10 foot tall latticed screen going in. It may shelter the lightning bugs a bit, they need the darkness to twinkle. One of my favorite books is The Evening Garden, which is of course a garden with fragrant hosta at my house. And with jasmine but it is not an evening bloomer like the hosta are. Preserving this small area for night pollinators might not be enough, but at least the backyards behind mine on the next street over (without folks fearful of the dark) are filled with a high canopy of trees holding back the lights and sounds of human activity.. |
Moc, what a beautiful description of your garden. I can almost smell the jasmine. I have one inside and love the fragrance...White dove is such a pretty name. We have a couple of doves that visit our garden every year. I've tried to get pictures of them but I'm not fast enough. |
- Posted by moccasinlanding z9A AL (My Page) on Tue, Jul 8, 14 at 15:41
Michelle/Hostacats, as I expected you are much younger than my DH and myself. We could be your parents. :) Not a bad thought actually. My parents moved from a rural county in north Alabama when I was small, during WWII. Of course, my many aunts and uncles and grandparents during those years were scattered across the south and while my mom worked at a military base, we traveled with my railroad widow granny to visit the family during the summers. I grew up with one part of my life suburban, the other part rural. My DH says I had a foot in three centuries, because that county did not get electricity nor indoor plumbing until I was almost a teenager. Heck, they were very proud to have it all, and I loved being with my cousins. I helped with the canning, hoeing cotton, churning butter, picking cotton, shelling peas, following my beloved grandpa in the furrows behind his plow, barefoot and talking mile a minute to him. He grew his own tobacco and hung the whole plants upside down inside his barn. Don't know what kind of tobacco it was, but he let me roll his cigarettes for him when I was about 4 or 5 years old. He was a great joker and my daddy looked like him, tall, lean, dark skinned and black haired, with some Native American background. You might say that part of my life could as easily be called late 19th century, a much simpler time. Thanks, Irawon. I can grow the star jasmine as evergreen here, and that is along 100 foot of chainlink fencing. The single pot of Maid of Orleans jasmine (Joan of Arc) all by itself can perfume the air, but it is tender and I keep it in a pot to bring indoors during the cold season. I like to name places of the heart. That's why I've always named the places I live. My first home that I bought myself was MoccasinLanding. When I sold it, I moved into a small house owned by a friend, lived there for a year on the river and called it Riverhouse. When my new fiance (old flame from college) and I bought the river house destroyed by Katrina one month after we moved in, I'd named it Fahanlunaghta (the place his mother was born in Ireland). It means, I am told, "fresh milk." |
moccasinlanding I like your little piece of history just like almosthooked and irawon. You can be my mommy....lol...gosh I'm not that young!! Nice to know where your name comes from, I thought maybe native American history, which of course you have. Neat!! I am going to get lots of hosta information from you guys. My parents were not rich, lived on a farm, I am born in 1965 and we had no hot water, no toilet, used a toilet can in closet, no tv etc until sometime in the 70's. We heated our house with a wood stove and then a furnace. How I grew up is pretty much how my parents age group people grew up. My husbands mom and I could talk about similarities and we are a whole generation apart. People helped my dad out, gave a tv, installed plumbing to get a running toilet, tub and all, but it took longer for the hot water hook up. I remember my mom having to boil water on stove to have baths...which we had Saturday nights. Amazing looking back now. My generation of people had it good except for us, but we were happy, we didn't know any better. Nowadays they have everything. Anyways, I will continue asking for help, reading forums and learning from you guys!! its great |
Moccasin, hostacats, aren't we lucky to have all the amenities we have now? Your stories bring back memories of my childhood and much more simple times. We fetched water from a well, boiled clothes and hung them out in the sun to dry. Early on,there was no refrigeration, so everything had to be preserved or stored in root cellars for the winter. All meals were made from scratch.Going to a restaurant was unheard of. Do you remember the advent of the ice truck and the milk delivery truck pulled by horses? Popsicles cost $.05. Gosh, how much did hostas cost back then (in the 40's)? |
Well......I have some stories of my childhood that were very different to people my own age, but you guys are a bit older and would have better stories than me. This would be more my mom and dad me thinks.....all in all life has changed as long as we are all happy, and seems to me we are because we all love hosta. Michelle |
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Comment on this storyNew Delhi - Prime Minister Manmohan Singh says Indian science and technology will take a giant leap forward under a plan to send a space mission to Mars next year.
Singh says his Cabinet has approved a mission that will collect important scientific information about the red planet.
Singh announced the unmanned Mars mission during a speech on Wednesday to mark the 65th anniversary of India's independence from British rule.
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Wawa in Pike Creek robbed by 3 men State Police troopers are investigating a robbery at a Wawa convenience store in Pike Creek. State Police say it happened Tuesday at just before 3 a.m. at the Wawa at 4555 New Linden Hill Road. Troopers say three men entered the store and confronted two female employees. One of the men displayed a gun and demanded money. The employees opened the cash register and one of the suspects took money from inside. The robbers then fled. No one was injured. |
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One of the things which we, as seniors, know full well, is that we will certainly soon face the day when we will round that final bend in the road of life. Some of us do our best to ignore our impending leave taking; some of us are terrified of it; and some of us just accept it with a fine degree of helpless fatalism.
There is nothing, I think, so horrible as to see, in the eyes of one who is fully aware that he/she is not long for this world, that absolute fear which transcends all fears.
Almost as bad is the facade of hopeful certainty on the faces of those who have not lived very good lives until the last few years. Then, with the realization that the end is coming sooner rather than later, they suddenly took up with some religion in the hope of redeeming themselves in the eyes of their God. Then, by way of an overt display of religious fervour, seek to acquire enough "good points" so as to outweigh the less than exemplary lives they have lived. I doubt that God, if there is one, is fooled by this by this pathetic stratagem. I doubt that these people, deep in their hearts, are themselves fooled by it.
So how then, are we to manage this rather disturbing awareness of mortality? How are we to deal with the "judgement" which many believe is coming? Can we really expect to put enough "brownie points" on the 'good' side of the ledger to out-weight the bad points already there and thus save ourselves from an eternal hotfoot? I think not. Nor do I think that we should even try.
Perhaps what we should be doing is just saying to ourselves, "what's done is done". "Let me learn from these life experiences and resolve to live the way I should have done for what time I have left. Let me leave off 'sucking up' to God and just behave myself for whatever time remains to me without asking for, or expecting, any favour or advantage for doing so."
Instead of trying to show God what a 'saint' one has become, on his behalf, why not simply do one's best to live like a normal, healthy, decent person amongst our fellow man.
Suddenly becoming fervently religious and totally pious isn't likely to fool anyone, least of all God and ourselves. It is obvious to both that this is a desperate, last ditch, attempt to ward off our natural fear of death and, if we believe in an afterlife, to try to position ourselves so as to avoid spending eternity in a pretty unpleasant place. And it ain't gonna work! Not for a New York minute.
So instead of being "last minute saints" why not use the knowledge and experience you have gathered during a long lifetime and live the life you know you can. It's the little things that count.
I won't go into this at length but here are a few examples of what I mean. Try as hard as you possibly can never to lie. No little white lies; no big ol' dirty lies; no lies of omission; no lies. Period. Shut your doggone mouth rather than lie. Just do it. It will make you feel better about yourself and it will set an example for your children and grandchildren.
Also: Treat your fellow man/woman the way you know is proper. Never mind what they have done to piss you off; that is their problem and it is for them to figure out how to deal with. Just you treat them right. All the time. Every time. It won't let you "pay them back" for whatever transgression they may have committed against you but then, paying them back would only have brought you down to their level anyhow. And you know perfectly well that two wrongs never make a right.
Another: Leave off giving yourself a hard time over the sins and wrong-doings of the past. That's spilt milk, water under the bridge, over and done with. You know that. Don't make yourself look a fool in your own, and others, eyes. All of us have done similar things. It is part of the human experience. Try to take from that experience something of value; the knowledge that this was not a good way to behave. Build on that knowledge by building a philosophy of life which encourages you to do better.
All the moaning, wailing, weeping, gnashing of teeth, praying, donating to some church, pious worshiping, etc., etc., won't convince any deity that you have become a better person, worthy perhaps, of entry into heaven. Living a better life may not either. But then living a better life is not intended to 'buy your way into heaven'. It is intended to make use of your lifetime of experience for your own personal enhancement as a human being and it may, just maybe, set an example to those around you which would set them on the right path sooner than you found it.
The great thing about this way of looking at things is that it is applicable no matter what your religious conviction may be or even if you are, like me, an atheist. It recognizes the value of proper behaviour for its own sake, and yours too, rather than as an attempt to make points with some deity. I would also be willing to bet, that if there is some deity out there, He/She would be inclined to look with favour on someone who has had the intestinal fortitude to learn from life's experiences to improve their behaviour, just for the sake of being a better person, much more than He/She would on those who are trying to 'brown nose' their way into heaven.
Forget about saintliness; just be the best human being that you can be. The reward for this might not be heaven, but it will be a knowledge of what it feels like to be a fully, gloriously, decent, fine human being.
Who can ask for more?
So one can figure that the time left is a very special privilege. Freedom, as the song says, is another word for nothing more to lose. So, since you're going to die soon anyway, why not make good use of it? There are an nice collection of super bastards fucking up decent human civilization. You're going out anyway, why not take at least one of them with you. Not that it's easy. It takes clever planning and guts and even if you don't pull it off, you might get a quick and easy death anyway. Certainly better than cancer and a great gift to the rest of humanity to spare some young guy who wanted to do the necessary work but might have a full life ahead of him. Of course, all this is still very theoretical with me and I doubt I have the guts to pull it off. But it's a thought.
Just take a look at the world. It's obvious from the state of things you can't leave it to God. He's either incompetent or probably doesn't give a damn.
If I thought that there really were a "God", then when I look at this world and how "His finest creation", mankind, who is suppose to be "made in His image", behaves, I could only conclude that "He" is insane. And, by that, I mean a really, total, freakin' bat-shit crazy, lunatic.
I see the same sort of insanity in religious fanatics of EVERY religion or religious philosophy. I see that religious philosophies have permeated most human societies throughout history. To the great disadvantage of humanity as a whole. If there were some way that, by giving my one and only life, I could rid mankind of such evil , I'd do it in an instant.
But there is not. Or rather, there is not that I know of. To "take with me when I go" someone whom I consider harmful to others, is to assume that the person(s) whom I chose to rid the world of, are indeed ones who "should" be deleted. While I could gleefully select some who I think really ought to be in that category, I've made enough errors in my own lifetime so that I don't entirely trust my personal judgement in in this matter.
On top of which, I cannot know how the progeny of such a person might turn out. Perhaps I'd be taking with me the possible father or other progenitor of a world saviour. Do you recall the "butterfly effect?"
All I can do (and have done) is make preparations for me to make my exit in good order when I think it is appropriate for me to do so. Prior to that I might get taken out by an accident, or a heart attack, or a stroke, or any of a dozen quick ways. But I will NOT allow myself to suffer a long debilitating illness while holding on tightly to a last few worthless moments of life.
I have nothing whatsoever to do in a few pain-filled or vegetating days, months, or years, that is of sufficient worth, either to humanity or to myself, to make that a consideration.
Undoubtedly my ego could find a thousand reasons why I should hang on until the last possible instant, but I hope to have the courage to overcome that ego in the end. I want to, if at all possible, leave the stage in my own good time, by my own good method, for my own good reasons, and under my own control.
Sure, I'd like a do-over on a couple of things -- who wouldn't? -- but in the main, people who take up an organised religion late in life some to me to be little different from those death row converts one hears about.
I don't think that I've ever heard you say something quite so odd.....
"""To doubt one's judgment totally, as you seem to be doing to opt out of a decisive act of defending humanity, is to totally defeat any motivation for positive action."""
-- I repeat......."I've made enough errors in my own lifetime so that I don't entirely trust my personal judgement in in this matter." .... There is not "total" doubt expressed by me. Merely the recognition that I'm not infallible - that my judgement of others is not, in my opinion, so good as I think it would need to be in order to "take someone with me."
Nor am I able to determine to any great degree, just what "defending humanity" is. I have a large ego, my friend, but not quite so large that I'll take on determining just exactly what it is humanity needs defending from. To a socialist it might be capitalists. To a capitalist, it might be socialists. But I fall in neither camp so I've no particular political set of beliefs, i.e. political religion.
"""People in power have no hesitation in making decisions that kill thousands of people. Even not making those decisions has a butterfly effect as well. Using that effect is a cop out of the worst order."""
--No Jan, it is not a "cop out" to recognize that my precognitive talents are lacking in effectiveness. I do not know what the future holds. I could only be "copping out" if I had determined that there was something effective that I positively KNEW would have good effect, that I could do, and had decided not to do that. I know of nothing I could do, in the way of "taking some others with me" that would be effective enough at producing a good result to cause me to do so.
I am horrified at others, such a Obama, doing this for what they see as "good reasons". I see no good reason to emulate their ways by doing the same.
"""I merely am suggesting that his decisive powers be democratized so every citizen be equally empowered. It is, of course, a formula for chaos if taken seriously. But I wonder if it might also encourage responsibility where, today, that is in little evidence."""
--Do you assume that what is or is not "responsibility" in others is yours to determine? Or mine? Everybody's? As you say, "a formula for chaos", indeed!
And how would you feel if I showed up at your door with a gun and, just before shooting you, I told you that I had determined that you were one of those I'd decided to "take with me"? If everyone followed your idea, you may be sure that, if it weren't me, then it would certainly be someone........
Dr. B,
As with you, I have no fear about death. It is the "process" that concerns me more. Because of stupid laws, that prevent me from getting proper medical assistance to make an exit once I can no longer do it for myself, I'm going to have to cut myself off sooner than should be necessary, while I still can do so. It irks me that stupid friggin' politicians have the power to do that.
Like you, I have few regrets and have no reason to ever say, "I wish I had..........."
Yeah. Death row conversions is exactly the right description.
All I was saying is you are refusing to act on what you believe. I am well aware we all make mistakes but that is the price for being alive. T refuse to act on your conclusions is to opt out of being active at all. It is the ultimate cowardice. You might as well not live.
There is no guarantee you will not make mistakes. If I suffer because of that it's just a matter of tough luck.
This is so elementary I cannot believe you don't comprehend it.
No sir, it is you who have it wrong. Y'see, my friend(?), you don't want me to act on my conclusions, you want me to act on your conclusions. Not only that, but you want me to act as you're implying you would/will act.
It's pretty obvious that you haven't the courage to do it yourself, or you'd not try to get someone else to do it. Or maybe you need someone to hold your hand there "Captain Courageous?"
I will "act" as I see fit - not as you dictate. And after reading that silly last comment of yours, the only thing that could possibly make me have second thoughts would be for you to agree with me.
You is one sick puppy.......!
Your latest offensive, sick comment has been deleted as will any others you care to make on ANY blog of mine from this time forward.
Get it through your thick head, you freakin' sicko. I am NOT going to go out and kill other people so as to "take them with me" when I go. There is no possible way in this world that you can insult me enough to even make me take you out.
You seem to equate "acting on one's convictions" with killing those who disagree with you. In your case it is tempting indeed to agree with you. But I'll leave that particular kind of cowardice to those who advocate it; not that you'll ever have what it takes but that's you.
Have you ever killed anyone Jan? Or do you just hide in the bushes and try to convince someone else to do so? You have no freakin' idea what it is you suggest! Your suggestion could only come from the lowest form of slime on this earth. You make politicians look like altar boys.


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Visiting Tallahassee – Good restaurants?
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I'm visiting Tallahassee for the next few weeks. Where are the best places to get a vegetarian meal at? I mainly like pizza, Indian food, and Italian food, but I'll try anything once. Any suggestions would be appreciated.
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It depends on what part of town you're visiting. The best pizza places are near the university. "Momo's Pizza" is a good place to get good pizza. The pieces are HUGE and the prices aren't too bad. It looks like they also have some Italian food on their menu (www.tallyfood.com/Menus/Menu.aspx?search_querystring=momo&menu=86). Mellow mushroom is another great place for pizza and the rest of their menu is great as well. I've never had anything I didn't like there.
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Did you make it? If not it should be in fairy land and you should say: "this is a nice FF theme, do you others have any?"
Well, technically its big art used in a theme... soo... idk if i should move this to fairy land... So i dont But can you show the original image? Im gonna make one too
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What!?!? and willy honestly and i do mean honestly, you're a fractal maker, i wouldn't actually expect you to give me tips on what can dazzle a persona when the thing doesn't even show the whole thing :| but thanks i guess
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okay good thing you have a DA makes this easier http://chat.deviantart.com/chat/Aposhack is where I have done a lot of learning and then http://chat.deviantart.com/chat/willyschat is my chat where you can show up if you want
No, its simple, not booring! Why would you want something complicated and deitailed on the top bar. Draws attention and ruins productivity! xD
No it really doesn't.... it's boring and that kills productivty, plus if I want to be productive I turn off Personas


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I waited an hr and 15 mins for a disgusting sub and mumbo sauce on all the containers. My fries and chicken steak sub was cold. Never again will I order from this place. Never.
If you are stuck in a hotel, this is good choice. I'm always a little worried about a local shop because I never know what I'm going to get. Not super, but also nothing bad about the food. It was warm and tasty upon arrival. Enjoyed it. Will order again if I go back. No AMEX :-(
Don't judge this place from its looks - like a good book - you have to go beyond the cover.
We asked for delivery from this restaurant, and the food acame promptly and still hot. Food price (per item) on the menu ranges from $2.40 to 8.65 depending on the quantity you order. You will get food depending on your taste, from 'junk fatty food', to healthy sea food. If you live or plan to live within the Greenbelt area,... More
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Mack Dryden — Ode To Forgetfulness.
What's on your mind?
aloha ct — how's paradise tonight?
wet and windy here — picked up .22 inches since 8pm and the winds are getting stronger.
How strong are the winds supposed to get…?
newt! both my mother and jennifer stephanie sent it to me.
wet down there yet?
Hello hostess Suzanne CTuttle which means what? Neeed to clear up the semantics. Smirking while eating black bean rice soup with fresh horseradish,ginger and chili.
sustained 40-50 with gusts 65-80 or so
Yes, much-needed downpour.
Hey to the girls!
hey bb — how's the bay tonight?
Okay, this video looks like it might be fun…
Keys, anyone?
i found my keys in the wood stove a few weeks ago.
how ya doing tonight teddy?
Well it must be paradise where I am too, because it's also wet and dreary.
Oof, a tad breezy…!;-)
Aloha, bb and newt…!
Gust of 70 mph here. Surf 30 feet West and Nothwesr beaches coastal flooding, Low tides will help. Sewer watchers (us) are camera teady for gravity collection overflows.Last week it was two earthquakes on in Eureka other Haiti. Wackos want a sewer collection in our only drinking water supply.
hey margot — but it is not snow — right? how are ya tonight?
Doing well, thanks. It's been raining steadily here all day.
yikes — hunker down and bundle up time….ca is gonna get the worst of it per our local weather doods
*heh* I'll take my 'Wet and Dreary' over ya'll's any day of the week…! ;-)
you're in ca iirc — norcal or socal?
Suz We loved your video! I run down the list before I get the right one often these days….I resemble that video…. sigh.
Surf on North shore may be 60 feet
hey nahant — glad ya liked it. i found my head nodding in an i do that way far too often when watching it
we have a high surf advisory going in addition to the high wind watch. i'm on the bay so the surf advisory doesn't affect me here
We've had some serious monster swells of late, that's fer sure…!
I am good. I sure enjoyed Lisa's Golden Globes liveblogging post earlier; it reminded me of when we used to do that with Christy.
boa and tiara blogging *sigh*
Indeed. I heard we'd be getting more however, mr tbsa told me the wind is blowing the storm that was coming in tomorrow further south.
Fine, no problems here, feeling very guilty about all the times I've bitched about weather. God, I have it so good. Shelter, water, food, heat. And feeling glad to see you all.
socal is gonna get nailed… my mom said she's gonna get rain in phoenix area from the storm as it blows east from la. said the 12 years she lived in palm springs they never had a forecast like this one
lot of Cal Poly kids here are from CV. I did a hot yoga class with 50 tonight. Most could not keep up with me it makes it hotter and muggier with all those lungs blowing and bodies perspiring. In fairness they recover quicker.
bitching about the weather was about the only other thing i do that wasn't in this video (laughing) well i do remember to put on my pants
Anyone risk their life in them? To windy I bet. Hawaii has awesome surfer people.
Looks pretty substantial on radar. I know we need it, but with all the fires, there have been really knarly mud slides in la.
hey ce — how ya doing tonight?
*sigh* hope they've had time and money to prep the hillsides to try to prevent the worst of it
We're getting forecasts of 65 mph winds tomorrow. Not good. The ground is soaked and that's when trees fall down. It's time to fill water reserves.
Oh my god, Ronald Reagan was right, "Trees are killers.".
We've always had alot of kids from here go to Cal Poly. What's not to like? live on the coast no parents and magnificent landscape. It beats this repubulikan mecha all to hell.
Great – we went to the movies to see "Up In the Air" today." I thought that it might be a fun comedy. No way. I laughed at first like crazy, and wept like a baby near the end. What a great film and I can't believe that it did NOT win Golden Globes tonight.
hey openhope — i learned to fear trees living in the redwoods…. they are called widow-makers for a reason
Oh yeah! We b oth go through the lists including the bird, the iguana and of course tucker… dam frustrating at times.
I tell ya frustrating…
The guy in the video is a charmer and carries the Beatie tune nicely. Me me laugh. Nice in light.
which film is that? is that the george clooney one?
glad it made ya laugh. figured we could all use a good laugh tonight
One more win and I'm going to the Super Bowl.
J-E-T-S, Jets, Jets, Jets!
Nice slow and steady rain in Oxnard so far today/tonight. Supposed to go on for days. I like the straight down rain. No winds so far.
hey emerson — once you're a jet
Suz, why did I get a 404 for my link…?
hey dearie — nice to see ya again. how ya been?
let me see if i can fix it… looks like maybe two links in one? wanna try again ct?
Linky 404 try the http Love watching these dardevils one little mistake and they are toast. Thanks
I have a great t-shirt with donald duck on it. it says, then donald remembered DUCKS DON'T WEAR PANTS. It's fun to wear without pants.
my total exposure to movies are the ads i see on teevee. glad to hear he made a good one
Yes the Lake heated way. hot yesterday with the Green Party fight, Names I have never seen before. Over 650 entries.
I've been good. Eyes tired from reading the liveblogging, of course, but SO proud of Teddy and Marcy. I've spread the word to my politically interested friends so they can get with the program. Also a bit of back ache from lifting 30 pound toddler boys one time too many, I think. But they are such cabbage patch munchkins that it is hard to resist just scooping them up.
This is funny, a re-captioned image from tonight's Golden Globes:
reading it is like being in the courtroom. nobody does live blogging better than fdl
It won for something. Can't remember of course.
Oh Suz, we love films so much.
"once you're a jet"… I'm totally sucked into the "Oz" series from HBO, via netflix. Violent, ugly, fascinating in a dark soap opera kind of way. Rita Moreno is incredible in it.
Hmm . . . wonder what Jaws will be breaking like?
a good one but i was thinking more along these lines
Cudos to (((Teddy))) for a great Job!! And it sure does read just like it would sound like in court.
From KCRA TV Natl. Satellite. That sucker's looking coiled up and ready to blow ON SHORE to NorCal AND SoCal . . .
Suz sent me a great detailed report . . . and all I'm reading, seeing at NOAA and on local TV has us in Sacto and Central CA and SoCal getting high amounts of rainfall, gusting winds, and tons of snow in the mountains thru at least next Sunday . . .
love musicals… west side story, oklahoma, the king and i, etc.
Yeah, I thought you meant that. *g*
The Super Bowl halftime show will feature these blokes.
Awesome, we've had rain here in central ca all day. Our local news says the next storm is going to blow south. I do hope it's wrong.
that little guy curling up the oregon coast is my wind maker
Awesome display of surf skills in rough and dangerous water looks knarly on guy broke his leg and had to be hospitalized bummer. Great heat footage.
Pretty steadily since late last night, short periods of no rain, but sprinkles, light drizzles, and downpours all day.
Just looked out front door, no rain, but wind has picked up, I'd say at about 25mph, gusting more at times. Plenty black clouds to the south, comin our way, black clouds to the west, also . . . El Nino is in play, and it could get real hairy for all of CA at times in the next week or so . . .
As the info YOU sent me suggests, if Pineapple Express Jet Stream shifts in, it will bring warmer rains to all of CA, 'specially SoCal in a week or so, JUST after record rains across the state and snowfall in the Sierra we haven't seen in a decade or more . . . with that warm rain melting the snow . . . . reservoirs state wide could fill in a week or 10 days . . . then Da Pineapple Exp? Pressure on the rivers, levee's, reservoirs, and of course, on the neighbor hood pumping stations and drainage systems . . . fun!
I've always enjoyed musicals as well.
i love talking weather science geek in case ya had not noticed
Last time we had these conditions water went over the Friant Dam and flooded the tiny city of Friant but also made it's way along the San Joaquin River and flooded ALOT of land along the way. Lots of folks lots their homes.
Nice to see all the shiny cheery faces here. (been spending time at seminal)
Good to see you here. It's been wild over there.
hey sunny — still warm?
Back side of wave? Or the face? If I recall, doesn't the face measure taller?
Wonder how many millions of acre feet it is carrying ACF= 325,000 gallons and it comes with a lot of embedded energy. Right in the shipping lanes
This year's Eddie Winner surf's Mavericks . . . sure hope they call THAT one this year!
Heard The Eddie had 40+ faces? Mav's had linky to it, vids and snaps . . . was that Eddie in Dec?
Looks like we are in the middle of the knarly stuff going in norcal and socal.
I enjoyed what they did to the Chargers today, Sanchez is a delight to watch.
But don't they have to beat Peyton and Da Colts?
I'm REALLY pullin for Old Man Favre, what a day HE had, the whole TEAM had, today!
IF their defense can hold Brees to mortal stats, and their DFence is GOOD, a Vikes Old Man Win is in my cards.
Something like 38-31 . . . we'll see.
Hard for me to think Jets can get past Colts, though . . .
I'd LOVE to see Old Man Favre and Manning in the StuporBowl . . .*G*
Larue yep that fall!
My Fair Lady (behind the scenes w/Julie)
looks like the west coast is gonna have a bumpy ride weatherwise. sure hope everyone has their emergency kits (just in case). wind and rain usually means power failures.
Yes maam – daytime hi 50s through wednesday!!
Considering some daylight walking. Touch of prison pallor here..
I picked Indy and Nawlins at the start of the year, but my Jets are really fun to watch..and OVERDUE! I think any matchup will be great at this point Larue, but I'm only going to Miami if the Jets make it.
Yup, all prepared. I have plastic and duct tape.
It was the nadir of FDL . . . *G* More useless BS than I've ever read on this site . . . more names of folks here less n 6 months or even 6 weeks or 6 days, too . . . . Same with a thread or two today, fairly new names just completely dominating the thread, and hard to tell what many of them are actually rooting for or against, at times.
I didn't see a LOT of regular names . . . Mauimom, Selise, Newtonusr . . . a few others.
Wierd shit, maynard! *G*
That's a shame, she's an incredible actress, her PBS cop/detective series was one of the greats.
Ok, fine, it's funny in a mean and nasty HollyWood Gossip way . . . . they coulda picked on some of the idiots that were interviewed earlier who had a hard time forming complete sentences and thoughts, though.
had a great cast and good tunes and wicked fun sense of humor. one of my favs
You talking the prison series, Oz? Rita Moreno is in it? Wow, she's gotta be in her 70′s?
Oh yeah, Rita, Westside! DOH!!! *smacksforehead*
GF made me watch it. I asked to see it again. Girls are smarter. The end.
Got my wood stove and more than a cord of cut split Almond.. heat..
Got plenty a propane for da gas burner.. got food… water stored.. set… at least in the short term..
Hard to figger, without Entwhistle and Moon . . . .
emerson, I LOVE that!!! Pausing 'til later.
Got batteries for flash lights and charged up my Coleman neon lantern. Getting gas for the generator. PGE will have a handfull with the wind. Got some vittles and the stairmaster is in the kitchen now.
Central CA? I think of Santa Cruz to SLO . . . I KNOW Santa Cruz is and will be getting hammered hard. You need water where you are at? (like all of CA, lololol)
everyone have gas in their vehicle in case they need to make a hasty exit… and a plan for where and when to go?
i used to use the water line on the creek as my gauge — i was told by an old timer there that if the water came up to a certain tree to head out and to higher ground.
Same here, Sunny. Well, I'll consider it once it stops raining anyway.
Yep, figgered . . . . since November or so, I've seen stuff blow thru OR and WA that was incredible.
I got a sister in Fernwood, near Bellingham, WA . . . they had snow twice already, not as much as other years.
But it ain't over yet, either . . . . ;-)
Does burning almond smell wonderful?
Me too!!!
I think you know more n me, so I'll be pickin yer linkies and thoughts as we go!!
'Preciate THAT!
They're still great though. The drummer (Alan something?) is very good. don't know who replaced Entwhistle, who is my all-time favorite rock bassist.
I'm in the Central Valley. Cental california, but inland. We most definitely can use the rain. We are on schedule for the rainfall this year but that is following 3 years of mediocre rainfall. We need all we can get. We heard rumors about no lawn watering this summer.
I use the sixty year rule! The house hasn't flooded in sixty years since being built… we OK!
and sorry to have taken you from the party
She is in Central Valley I guess We are in the Central Coast
Isn't that amazing, Sunny? Never saw that before. don't miss part 2. totals about 20 minutes.
Heh, my brother and his wife used to be rangers at Friant! Lived in Fresno. I used to go thru that region for backpacking access to The Sierra's, a topo called Blackcap Basin . . . past Huntington Lake, out into Dinkey Creek, up to Wishon Reservoir, Cortwright Reservoir . . . Thomas Edison Lake, Shaver Lakes, know I'm missin a couple.
They were mostly at 6-8,500K, with parking. Scoot right on up to 10K in a half day or day easily, and boom, High Sierra's right there!!! *G*
Heh heh heh heh heh heh . . . I'd start reading, want to respond, realize I was a day and 12 hours behind, and I didn't KNOW any of the names!!!!!!!
Brutal stuff . . . *G*
I like it but one of my neighbors not so much…
keep in mind that was the stuff that got through… mod squad was busier than a one armed piccolo player. some folks are really in touch with their inner ugly
Your house is older than me. Glad something is.
I agree Larue just brutal at times..
hahahahaha — whoops sorry for laughing dood
makes feel a bit stable knowing the place has held up all those years with all the shaking it has been through.
I was SURE that would be Clapton! It wasn't! Nice!
Some Clapton I'VE Never Seen! Sweet! But Not Let It Rain
Let It Rain was one of my all time favs . . . still is . . . man that song rocks . .
same way this 100 plus house reassures me when it starts creaking in the wind. flexing like a willow or a boat on stormy seas…
Just saw the video Suz. *G* I like the bit about, "…the taller one- you know- the one who still lives here."
Incredible it was filmed and preserved. Life beating art…. or something like that.
i do that all the time with my girls…. i will purposely try to say jen and say steph and visa versa. if i talk to my sister on the phone i'll start calling the girls sherry instead of the other wrong name.
No chit. My house definitely moved in 89.
I wonder why nobody ever filmed the stage production? Maybe someone did and its in boxes in their attic.
yes *g* but well worth reading.
Yeah I live in the fresno area. Clovis actually. The Sierras are are amazing. Usually spend at least a few days each summer up at Shaver.
Cortes Banks.
100 Foot Wave.
Story of Mavericks, with a couple on a waverunner who were part of the saftey teams, JUST after contest was called off for conditions too grueling . . . rode out 3 100 footers and lived.
See Mav's site . . . their accounts will make your hair stand on end . . . *G*
Once my grandmother hit 90, all bets were off. After a while, she just gave up on the whole idea of identification.
Me: "Nonni, what did you do with newspaper?"
Nonni: Oh, I gave it to …thing."
my grandma turned 94 yesterday
does it smell like toasted almonds? She asks hopefully.
Colts will be a challange . . . . way to root for YOUR team, though, mine are still in development stages.
One's developing, the other is in rehab and relapse at the same time . . . . sigh.
I've always like Favre. I've clung to him post Montana for a hero . . . I'm in SUCH withdrawl locally, alas.
Duck! And Cover! lol
It reminds me of elementary school.
Good, then we ain't old yet . . . *G*
Course, I don't have gam's like Rita and Julie do . . . prolly a GOOD thing, I guess . . .
not quite… but good try…
My father gave up early. Called each of us by all the names, e.g. Susan Mary Joan Patsy.
He traveled constantly on business and really didn't know us well until his later years. On the weekends all he wanted was peace, quiet and yardwork. Refused to travel for recreation, so we all got sent to camp.
just like applewood doesn't smell like apples yet has its own smokey smell.
email has made my life so much easier. i still screw up when talking to them on the phone but…
you bet I have some sweeties dad's apple tree that died. saving the heart for smoking ribs and stuff… hmmm maybe after this week of rain I will just have to fire it up.
oh my stars how gross…. token insisted on going outside to do his business and came running back in with some critter's entrails trailing from his mouth… i made him drop it out on the deck but ewwwww squeek and shrudder
sometimes that terrier side of him really comes out
my dad used to burn oak and madrone — i love the smell of those two woods burning — reminds me of dad
He was doing well for the Jets last year until he got his shoulder trashed. I saw Montana and his family in Maui one year. I always had a thing about being underwater. Probably former life fears. Tried to beat it by taking scuba training at the hotel.
All these 7-year olds had no problem with it. I, of course, hated it, surfaced twice and then said this is not my thing. Montana's son sez, "Daddy, what's wrong with that man?" Everybody around the pool loses it and Montana nearly falls off the top of the slide laughing. I yelled over, Hey Montana, you looked pretty funny against the Giants last year, too."
good guy.
Gas in the wagon tomorrow morning . . . frig and freezer and pantry stocked with water, also.
Gas for the camp lantern, candles galore, and gas for the camp stove.
Flashlights, batteries, and music devices all charged up for entertainment.
Instruments, backpacking and camping equipment, foul weather gear, meds, first aid, computer and important papers in ONE large portable file cabinet all set to go. All plastic cards and any items of personal identity located and ready to shove into one container.
I guess we head East and look for higher ground . . . maybe in both cars . . . time to load? 45 minutes. Might even work in a cooler or two of food from frig and freezer in that time . . . honey has a dear friend in El Dorado Hills . . . guess we could grubstake her place, they'd likely put us up for a week or a month INSIDE . . . if needed.
I begin to weep thinking of the stuff I'd leave behind that I'd lose to 4-6 foot of water in our cave . . . stuff I've had since 4 years old, stuff and momento's from parents, books I got thru my life I've held onto . . .
Raining again, was POURING moments ago! Fun!
hehehehe i've always wanted to try scuba diving or snorkling. the one time i was in hawaii i was dealing with morning sickness (the oldest) the entire time and wasn't in the mood to try.
strongest gust so far has been 52 on the cape. my plan for tsunami warning is to head up the cape — 800 ft elevation.
my parents are mid-80′s and they both call me by my brother's name half the time.
Wow-beat the odds, big-time. How is she doing?
funny how that works… speaking of family my sis from Boston came visiting with her son wife and two kids… was great to see her again… made two beer can chickens with Yukon gold taters and salad.
I love the Jack Cassidy's, Jack Bruce's especially, and Bill Wyman . . . he's well rounded with his craft.
But yeah, The Ent, he had the insanity of Jack Cassidy who toured with James Brown before the early Jeff Airplane, and then the second Airplane . . . The Ent had the thump and rock of Jack Bruce, and he had the stoicism of Bill Wyman, and Wyman's sense of jazz influences . . .
The Ent . . . hard to think of another rock bass player (I don't count Sting as a picker) that tops The Ent.
Good call . . . .
surprising us all. she is fading fast and has good days and bad days but everytime the doc says she's not long for this world she makes a liar outta him. her dementia is getting much worse and she is living in assisted living.
There were all SORTS of rumors in CA this past summer . . . and I garentee if we don't have reservoir fillin rains and snows this winter, shit's gonna get REAL hard . . . . for us all . . . from daily usages of people, farms, fishes, and the general environment . . . blow the economy out, any NUMBER of ways, top to bottom. And that will only add to the unemployment pic state wide that exists . . . .
just let it rain smart. breaks so the ground can dry out before more rain. those breaks are so important. its the continual rain for days on end that causes trouble.
That includes beer busts of yours of your kids? *G*
I'm in the central valley, the north end . . *G*
was a comment to me re something on a diff thread
Heh heh heh, I wondered about that fleetingly at times, when RGB had to step in . . . thanks for reminding what I see is only the TIP of the iceberg!!! Sigh, great folks you backstage folks are . . . .
Send some good old Makers Mark to them all for me, will ya? And those that don't, some of my green pork chili. *G*
Emerson, you, me, Nahant, a few others . . . ok, MANY others . . . we ain't old, yet. *G*
We ain't old till we SAY we're old, and don't forget, when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor we didn't give up!
The very best Entwhistle/Moon song.
Sigh, I so miss the Sierra's . . . but without working out for 6 months, I'd die my first day on the trail up there!! lol
I'm completely jealous you are so near to a piece of CA that is a big piece of my heart . . . *G*
Thanks for taking care of it all for me while I'm away!!! lol
There are blog sites of backpackers I've read over the years, when searching for info about the places I walked back in the 70′s.
Some have reports and pictures galore, of places I actually walked thru . . . that's such a shock to be scrolllin thru someone's trip, knowing where they are and where they are headed, and suddenly see a campsite or lake I've been at . . . some lower, some up above 12,000 feet . . . spooky, and sad and mournful.
But man the thrill comes rushing back, fast, and I'm 20 something, and I can do anything . . . ya know . .. ;-)
We ain't OLD!!!!
you're right Larue. Still good to know there are edifices older, though. *g*
You BETCHA, winky, winky . . . *G*
something we're all going to face on an intimate level. Doesn't make it any easier. Personally, when I lose it, just pull the plug. My mom told me the same thing.
Damn, Suz, that's the whole shebang, the whole enchilada, the whole weather truuuts!
NICE! Special, bookmarked . . . dang, yer good . . .
You HAD to have been a great civil servant . . . thanks, glad I never had to RUN from yas!!! ;-)
So far… but recycle can be tiresome…
lotsa good ones links on this page
noaa prob has a sac specific but i like the portland cause it has great pacific sats
Wow . . . . just wow.
and mom to me and me my girls.
Hell, I feel that way with my two siblings and their spouses . . . I feel that way a LOT . . .
You nailed it, email saves families . . . as long as they don't talk on the phone . . lol
What kind of critter, can we assume it WASN'T a 180 lb. Puma con Colour?
'bout time for me to turn into a pumpkin. stay warm, stay dry, and stay safe.
g'nite and thanks for letting me get all weather geeky tonight.
small… entrails so hard to tell but prob a field mouse or something that sized…
That's just pure phreaking . . . *G*
Killin me . . . . *G*
Easier said than done – unfortunately. I've a warm spot in my heart for the Hemlock Society.
Yeah, I've READ about '62 and Crescent City, and others . . . . not you, but . . . . .
Lost my mums to that, at 79 . . . it's hard and brutal . . .
Hang tough . . . .
Yep . . . but so far, we're talking 7 to 10 days of straight rains . . . .
And then The Pineapple . . . . perhaps rum, Myers Rum, and some Planters Punch . . . fruits, juices.
THAT'S what we're missing in our survival stash!!! ;-)
My bad . . . sorry Mac . . . Suz . . .
I can think of NO other better consideration . . .
Killer. You nailed it.
I'm all about the early years, but The Ent is doing things on the 4 string, that likely aren't allowed.
Great, great call . . . *bows*
Is that right? I thought if it was in a signed and witnessed living trust, it holds up, no?
That word 'edifices' can be a mixed bag of understanding . . . . ;-)
I'm out. Gonna take advantage of the weather while it's here.
now that you mention it, I've seen the Who 7-8 times and all with Entwhistle. Who could possibly replace him?
You mean good sleeping weather, I presume. g'nite Sunny.
Me and mine are talking about it . . . how do we deal with it . . . when one loses it . . . at what point do we cave in and accept it's time for intervention? Our parents, they continue to teach us, from cradle to grave . . . even as they pass.
I actually think, that's one hell of a grand and noble existence we all get to take part in . . . . and yet, we all have to confront our mortality.
At some point . . . . what do we leave behind, and to whom? How do we go? If with a spouse, how do you handle that history of being together? How do you care for the other, when you are slipping or going, if there's no other family? What do you have to do legally?
Don't mean to bum the thread . . . sorry . . . . slipped off into stuff . . .
Better n beer floods . . .
Great linky . . . I hope others avail themselves of this info . . . . good to have! *G*
I could go on about rock drummers, genres and more . .
But The Ent? On Bass? In rock?
I'm convinced . . . . and I'm a BIG Jack Cassidy fan . . . Ent gets the nod.
Ok, it's fading . . . . . nite all . . . thanks to all for the chats . . . . be warm, dry and well fed and happy with family . . .
It's the action question of our time, IMO. I have seen many cases where a spouse dies and within the year-the mate dies. It's otherworldly to me, yet comforting, in that humans can still decide if they want to be here or not. I'm probably not the ideal one to ask because I've never married. But from a parent/offspring POV, the idea of my parents not living with one of we four is crazy, but that is the emotional reaction and not the practical one, perhaps.
oh a late thank you to the great suzanne for that video~made my morning! Now to sleep…….(oh those night workers)
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I've stored an empty antique solid wooden chest of drawers in a shed for a couple of years, and just discovered that last winter mice made a home in one of the drawers, along with some fiberglass batting, with the resulting odor. Is there any way to get rid of the odor? I haven't tried anything yet, not wanting to make a bad thing worse.
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- Posted by craftylady-2006(gw:craftylady-2006) onSun, Jul 16, 06 at 13:01
How about putting a box of baking soda in the drawers - or sprinkling some of it in each drawer to absorb the odor (like using it in the frig). I'd leave it outside for a few days too. Just thought of this too - kitty litter soaks up odors also. |
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- Posted by maddiemom6 (My Page) on Fri, Jul 28, 06 at 17:41
I got a wonderful cabinet that had once been a very active mouse house. Mouse urine will stay with stuff for a very long time but you can do a few things. First is a very good scrubbing with bleach.. then totally soak the stuff in a liquid called NATURES MIRACLE... you can get it at most pet shops. It will take 5-6 sessions of wetting it with this stuff and then letting it dry and doing again to get the smell gone. It can be easier just to put in new drawer bottoms ! maddie |
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At the end of chapter 15, it states that "Mr. Underwood and a double-barreled shotgun were leaning out his window above The Maycomb Tribune office." Mr. Underwood said, "Had you covered all the time, Atticus." This is a relief, because the crowd had been pretty threatening, and if it hadn't been for Scout's innocent questions, things could have gotten violent.
As Atticus protects jailed Tom Robinson from an mob of vigilantes, Mr. Underwood, the owner of the Maycomb newspaper, is positioned from a second-story window with a double-barreled shotgun pointed at the angry men. When the lynch mob leaves, Atticus and the children discover Mr. Underwood as he says, "Had you covered all the time, Atticus."
Ironically, Mr. Underwood does not make himself known to the mob. Some critics say it is because he was afraid of retaliation or of being shunned from society for protecting Atticus, a man who was defending a black "rapist." Mr. Underwood is also know to "despise" black people.
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