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On the Feast day of Our Lady of Fatima we meditate on �knowing the Holy Spirit and the Grace of Baptism, where the Holy Spirit is received, as seen through the eyes of Mary, His spouse. Meditations read in front of the exposed Blessed Sacrament for our Daily Holy Hour at our Bloomington, Indiana friary. Ave Maria! "A Month with Mary"� by Fr. Dolindo Ruotolo Day #13: Holy Baptism MARY: The grace of God has enriched you from your birth.�You came into the light crying. You were very tiny, but your soul had need of God. A humanly insurmountable barrier was interposed between you and God. You were a slave of the original fault. You were born with the curse that the first man passed on to you as a sad inheritance. This original fault deprived you of a great good: friendship and familiarity with God. The Lord gave you back a new life, incorporating you into Jesus Christ, you, a creature of Adam, became a creature of the Redeemer, a child of the new Adam from whom you inherited the blessing. The saving water of Baptism descended on your forehead "� the heavens opened, the kiss of God"�s mercy renewed you; you were thus purified and emerged holy and innocent because you found yourself united to Jesus the Redeemer, who with his Blood had washed away all sin. How many angels came around your crib to contemplate the sublime beauty of your soul made innocent and a little child of God! Always remember with gratitude that grace which God conferred on you. You will be able to gauge it only in eternity. With Baptism Jesus incorporated you into himself, but preserved intact your freedom and your state of being an exile and a pilgrim. For that reason you made�promises�to the Lord that were like the�consecration of your freedom to God. With Baptism you were elevated to a superior state and thus you renounced all that is low and vile that the world gathers together or offers as pasturage to your lower nature, and the demon. You renounced the world, the flesh and the devil and offered yourself to God, to the Redeemer and to the Holy Spirit whose living temple you became. When you feel pulled toward the earth and hear the suggestions of the world, of the flesh and of the devil, remember your promises and do not further desecrate the grace of Baptism. Remember that you are a Christian and you must not dishonor this Baptismal character with a material and disordered life. Because you are incorporated into Jesus Christ, you must glorify him in your life and being as his fragrance. THE SOUL: O my Mother, how many bitter tears should I shed at the remembrance of my Baptism! I was beautiful and innocent; I was dear to God and yet I have degraded myself with so many sins! Lift up the weakness that so many wounds have caused and grant that I may wash away my sins with the tears of the most lively sorrow! How many times have I been ashamed even of being Christian and have lived completely immersed in the spirit of the world! How many times have I soiled the garment of my innocence! O Immaculate Heart of Mary, receive me into yourself and have pity on this poor little flower, so often broken, so many times stripped of its leaves by the hurricane of evil. ASPIRATION: O Mary, make me truly Christian, make me faithful to the promises made in Holy Baptism. LITTLE WORK: Reflect that the world is a deceiver and only knows how to give bitterness even when it promises pleasures and triumphs. About the Meditations The daily School of Mary meditations come from the book,�A Month with Mary, written by a holy Italian priest Father Dolindo Ruotolo (1882-1970). Originally written as spiritual thoughts to his spiritual daughter, the work is comprised of thirty-one meditations for the month of May. To Download Audio go to http://airmaria.com?p=35609
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darkchibi07 Posts: 3899 |
Yeah, it's vaguely-hinted for most of the female characters except for one who's an outright lesbian. On another note, I also wanted to comment that I feel that not only Marimite laid a more stable groundwork for the yuri genre and fandom, but a lot of the "romantic friendship" tropes has been popularized and applied to a bunch of bishoujo shows ever since. There doesn't seem to be a coincidence for shows like Lucky Star, Lagrange, Hidamari Sketch, K-ON, and such were made with those tropes in mind. |
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PurpleWarrior13 Posts: 1311 |
I watched the Cobra movie a few times on Hulu earlier this year. It's an addictive movie, and I've been trying to get some people I know to see it (mostly sci-fi fans)! I wouldn't mind seeing the TV series hit US shelves. I would like to it (though I have seen that interesting pilot episode TMS produced for the US with Michael Bell and BJ Ward doing voices...). I did notice a slight mistake in the article: Sandra is not related to Jane in any way. The three sisters are Jane, Catherine, and Dominique. Sandra was only a comrade of Dominique, unless I missed something in one of my viewings.
Anyway, I can't wait to pick up Discotek's new DVD! |
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erinfinnegan ANN Columnist Posts: 598 |
Indeed. Bamboo edits those photos, so I hadn't seen those shelves yet. When you put a bookshelf over your doorframe, that's hardcore.
It's such a weird show... in the last two episodes of this set the girls go on "dates" on their day off. It is literally like any anime date episode featuring heterosexual couples, save for a lack of physical contact.
A friend was calling me out on this on twitter, too... I must've gotten the name wrong. Oops! |
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pachy_boy Posts: 773 |
The Nadesico movie is interesting, albeit very dark. The characters have all grown and matured in a lot of ways (Ruri especially), with some having gone in very bleak directions. The movie isn't for all fans of the TV series, but I thought it was interesting for it, just like how the Captain Tylor OVA gripped me with its depressing drama after a pure-comedy TV series. Hope this helps without spoiling much. |
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enurtsol Posts: 11127 |
The Nadesico movie can be hard to understand without knowing the Blank of 3 Years gap joining the end of the TV series and the beginning of the movie. |
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Mohawk52 Posts: 7430 Location: England, UK |
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pachy_boy Posts: 773 |
Some usually plan out the overall premise and some use the method of outlining beforehand. |
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Lynx Amali Posts: 767 Location: Ontario, Canada |
If you like the TV series and it's humor, avoid the movie like the plague. It was supposed to be the beginning of a trilogy too, which never came to pass so not only does it have a cliff-hanger ending, it also requires you to know the Blank Of Three Years video game (for the Saturn, Japan only) Not only that the plot that the movie had is also concluded with Nadescio: The Mission. (For the Dreamcast, Japan only) I'd still recommend it if you want a decent popcorn flick, a film that you don't take seriously but otherwise, no. It's nothing amazing because they take the mood of the TV series and make it grimdark. |
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Shippoyasha Posts: 341 |
I think you guys are being overtly harsh on Marimite. The show clearly caters to a stylized subject of a more elegant school life where relations between senior and junior are akin to walking on egg shells. I can agree with the frustration of yuri themes not explored enough, but there is some realism in the way girls interact with eachother. It is somewhat fantastical in setting, but the entire story mechanic is mostly slice of life.
Marimite is a bit of a flagship title for shows like it, but it is for the niche audience who wants to delve into shows like these. As far as interpersonal, student relationships go on a platonic level, the show excels. It is not what I would call high fantasy strictly. I personally had life experience that had a similar feeling when I used to tend to my upperclass girls. Again, I sympathize with frustrations with the extreme platonic nature of the show. One needs to have an affinity for these stories to get into shows like marimite. |
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dtm42 Posts: 13068 Location: NZL |
With Harry Potter, J.K. Rowling supposedly wrote the final chapter of book seven before she even finished the first book. Most writers make their stories up as they go along. But that doesn't mean they have to. |
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erinfinnegan ANN Columnist Posts: 598 |
It's one thing in text, but film and television, and especially labor intensive animation is typically tightly scripted out well in advance. The higher the budget, the tighter the plot. Hollywood films tend to run in a 3-act structure, for example. "Making it up as you go along" is a different kind of story telling philosophy. It's my understanding that Alice in Wonderland was originally made up to entertain three young girls as a story told aloud. Since the author made it up on the fly, he could change story direction to amuse his audience, and it didn't have to "make sense". I don't think he planned out notes in advance. I think the individual three sections, or possibly chapters, of the Cobra film have internal logic, but the film's overall story never comes together in a believable way. It's downright whimsical. If you let go of logic, it's delightful. |
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Princess_Irene Posts: 886 Location: The castle beyond the Goblin City |
Pretty much, but there were some big changes between the original version, Alice's Adventures Underground, and the published version, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland. Basically it was a story he told the three Liddell sisters on a boating excursion and refined later. (I should not be allowed in the forums when I'm home sick from work...) |
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Apparently Robert Jordan wrote the end to his Wheel of Time series a long, long, time ago. The problem was figuring out how to get there. The fact that he died before he did it shows what kind of tangle he got himself into. Stephen King has admitted to basically writing a lot of his novels organically, usually with no definite plan in sight. And when he does have a plan, they are usually scrapped during the process. There is no actual rule to writing a story. But I think what Erin is referring to in regards to Cobra is that it has a quality of a pulp tale, which usually are quite entertaining but often have something of a rambling quality to them. |
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I'm afraid you all missed the point of my question. It's fiction, and all fiction is made up within the mind of the creator firstly and foremost before a single letter is written, or typed on paper, or screen. Yes J.K. Rowling made up the ending before making up the rest, but it was still made up inside her mind before she wrote it. | ||||||
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Wow. Celery? I have a sample of New Haarlem and when I put it on, it gives a strong smell of maple syrup. I don't get much else, especially not celery.
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I hear such rave reviews of New Harlem but on me it just smells strongly of celery with a weak smell of coffee in the background. Am I the only one that gets this huge dose of celery. I mean I like celery and it is refreshing but I just don't seem to get the same thing everyone else does.
Wow. Celery? I have a sample of New Haarlem and when I put it on, it gives a strong smell of maple syrup. I don't get much else, especially not celery.
No celery for me.
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I don't remember getting celery when I tried it.
I got a very synthetic super sweet pancake/cinnamon/burnt sugar smell.. I hated it no celery vibe to me
You must have a bad sample or bottle. New Haarlem opens up like a caramelized sugar, then develops into a creamy caramel mocha coffee.
Wall Street has cucumber notes ... maybe there was cross-contamination when they manufactured New Haarlem ... return it for another bottle ...
Oh how wierd. It was a sample from The Posh Peasant. Now I guess I will have to find a bottle of New Haarlem and smell it to see if it is the same as my sample.
Negative on the celery. I don't think it's the sample because I've heard a couple other people mention this in New Haarlem. It reminds me of sitting at the breakfast table with a cup of coffee and a plate of maple syrup waffles. Also this gets sweeter as it goes through the transitions.
No celery for me. Coffee in abundance and lots of other sweet things, but definitely no celery. I love it though. Not for it's perfumic excellence, just it's originality and general fun...
great I just bought it blind......I really dont want to smell like celery! at least I can get rid of it with all you haarlem heads on here...if I dont like it.
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I don't see any relation to celery
Either you have bad NH, or a really bad batch of celery. These two items bear no relation to each other.
definitely no celery. just a good old blast of caramel + coffee + syrup + sugar + more syrup.
I think I'm with everyone when they say just the coffee + maple syrup
I can see where the OP get celery from.. There is a slight smell that u can say celery in the opening... But there is no celery in the dry down...
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I get as much celery from NH as I do coffee...
I think it is safe to say the op is the only person in history that smells celery in New Haarlem. Nothing more need be said.
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Well obviously that's not correct, since a couple other people are saying they get it.
I think the issue here is the maple syrup note. It's my belief that maple syrup, celery seed, fenugreek, immortelle (and urine for that matter) share some natural odorants which give the characteristic maple smell. So what some detect as maple, others may interpret as fenugreek or celery seed. I hazard that Bond is using the pure molecules to create this effect, so technically it doesn't have any of those ingredients, but does contain some odorant(s) that they share.
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Not even the merest hint.
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Maple syrup, coffee, cotton candy...
Ive never heard anyone get celery for New Haarlem. I get a strong mocha coffee.
I think actually only one other person even detected a slight celery odor (change1). I believe qwertytop's response was sarcastic, since everyone smells coffee in NH and he doesn't (though I don't presume to speak for him). Mea culpa. In any event, I'm going to continue wearing NH, comforted by the thought that no one wants to dip me in dressing and take a bite.
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I tried it a few weeks ago & got celery too!
It's been a long hot Summer in Sydney, looking forward to Winter & wearing vanilla fragrances.
Well on the subject of "coffee" scents I guess, I dont get celery out of new harlem but I sure as hell got it out cafe aoud.. Almost to the point of being disgusting and lasts for hours as well on my skin. To bad because I enjoy the dry down but man.. First few hours is hell when ever ive tried it.
The combination of the lavender with some of the other notes could be what people are describing as vegetal. What I get is maple syrup that is being denatured in a pan combined with a somewhat harsh lavender note. I'm not a fan of he opening, but the dry down is nice.
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Please explain to me the benefit of baby led weaning? Because I can't see the difference in the long term
(42 Posts)The reason i want to understand is because my best friend is weaning this way and she is very militant about it (it also includes a no sugar until the child is 6 rule; is this a normal part of BLW?)
My 2 kids are older (so yes I am quite old!) and I breastfed both for ages,, then introduced some breast milk mixed with rice, let them taste it, moved on the pureeing fruit but always gave 'bits' of stuff for them to play with and explore. End result, they were weaned and have adventurous tastes etc.
Now my friend says this was wrong, I forced them with the rice puree stuff and her way is superior in the long term...
well this is what I don't get: her baby will be weaned eventually, just like mine were, so end result
both babies weaned, different pathway to the same result.
Or is there something I missing? does it give the child some extra, invisible benefits?
Because I am finding it hard to understand the strict attitude to something I was fairly laid back about when it doesn't gain anything.
This post is not meant to annoy BLW people, actually I just want to understand because my friend's explanation and website she sent me to didn't seem to give any concrete reasons as to why it is better.
If it is just a different way, that some people enjoy, why the militant attitude and dissing of the puree method. I don't mind how people wean their babies, it's a personal choice (and really not worth making a big deal about surely?) but my friend seems radicalised!
Err no banning sugar until 6 sounds bizarre. I think it's probably your friend who is taking BLW to a militant extreme rather than BLW itself being militant? It is just a different approach which works for some and not others. All babies are weaned in the end!
The benefit I see to BLW is entirely my own! It means dd gets on with feeding herself and I can eat my own food! I haven't heard of the no sugar rule either.
I don't think banning sugar til 6 is part of BLW at all.
The main benefit to me of BLW was that my DS actually ate something after two long months of refusing to eat off a spoon.
BLW advocates say that it helps babies get used to textures and improves hand to eye coordination etc etc
But each baby to their own thing really
It is just a different way.
The long-term outcome is exactly the same.
I assume that your friend is not giving her child fruit or milk as both contain sugars (fructose & lactose)?
Your friend sounds weird (and telling you you did it wrong- WTF? How rude!). The no sugar thing...her kids will have ishoos I expect.
I think the main benefit to BLW is it's easy and I'm lazy
Give em a bit of whatever you/other DC are eating, they amuse themselves with it, leaving you to eat/clean up in peace! No pureeing, freezing, gradually incorporating lumps etc.
The theory is that they learn to regulate their appetite better, thus less likely to be obese in future. However I think it's not for everyone and in reality most people probably do something in the middle.
There is no long term benefit, it's simply a choice of how you move from the milk to the solids stage and nothing more.
At the end of the day, if you wean in a way your baby is happy with, you are doing it right and it is led by the baby.
My baby is blw but definitely has sugar. At his 1st birthday he was busy shoving large quantities of rainbow coloured covered in icing cake into his mouth! I believe in letting them have everything in moderation otherwise to big a thing is made of sugar.
I did blw as it was easy. While my friends were spending lots of their evenings making purée for the freezer I was just give our ds a bit of what we were eating. It is so much simpler in restaurants too as at 1 we just order ds something and he gets on with eating it himself while we eat ours instead of your food going cold while you spoon purée in to their mouth. However we do it for ease we are not militant about it. I would call our way of thinking as not making special food as for example if we cook fish pie or shepherds pie we spoon feed that to him and also his weetabix in the morning. I don't understand the banning of spoons.
I also don't believe the whole thing that blw regulate perfectly how much they eat. My ds can eat and eat and eat a rediculous amount of food (we have tested him on this!) so we have to portion control for him.
I never really understood it either tbh. I know many people who used it and thought it was great so fair play to them, but personally I wouldn't like to have a cutlery free diet (wot, no soup? Yoghurt? Porridge?) and I didn't want DS to either.
Having had five kids aged tetween 20 and three, i think there are fashions and fads and the idea is to find a happy medium. BLW without the tag was actually promoted years ago to help babys with hand eye coordination. My kids were always happy with some pureed food, some finger food.
I don't think it matters hugely in the long term. One benefit of starting with BLW is you can't wean "too soon" because the baby won't feed themselves til they're ready, so it does eliminate the "feeding a 3 month old barely solid food while they recline in a bouncer".
However, most people do a mixture of mush and finger foods quite sensibly.
Morris, what makes you think BLW has to be cutlery free or avoid porridge/yoghurt/soup? All BLW means is the baby exclusively feeds themself, it doesn't mean no cutlery or nothing sloppy - it's about who does the feeding not what food it is.
I think your friend would be militant whatever she decides. Some of what she has said is just plain rude.
Blw is giving finger foods and loaded spoons. No need to bother with purée or baby rice but you can if you want to. Spooning runny food like yoghurt is also fine. People get so het up about what's allowed. Anything you like! Just no honey, watch the salt and be careful with choking hazards like nuts and whole grapes.
I did blw or "weaning for lazy parents" with ds. It was really, really easy. Dd on the other hand won't really eat anything and is 8 months. I've tried everything except buying jars and pouches. I am snobby about jars and pouches as over priced, processed crap but if things continue as they are I will buy pouches.
My mantra? Do whatever works and where there's a choice take the least stressful option.
I fell into blw because both of mine refused to take anything off a spoon - didn't realise initially that it was the latest 'thing'. Having then read a bit about it, seemed to make sense and it really appealed to my lazy side, as they could eat the same things (bar a bit of adjustment for salt etc) at the same time as us.
My nephew, who is 11 weeks older, was weaned the traditional way and SIL was too scared to give him anything to chew on in case he choked (gagged). She isalso terrified about mess! It all seemed like such a faff as he had to eat before everyone else (at one point being plonked on the set dinner table in a bumbo while our food overcooked and we all stood around hungry). He still is fed like a baby bird now at 15 months and had difficulty chewing anything.
I'm sure (being half French) that in time it won't make any difference and that he'll have impeccable table manners and palate that will far outshine both of mine though.
Thanks for all the quick replies, that has helped clear up my confusion. Perhaps the no sugar thing is the main thing I can't understand (and there is still lactose and fructose sugar so really it is only processed sugar.)
I think the whole point of BLW is to be relaxed and not worry about how much they are eating, not eating, rubbing in their hair. It should be the opposite of militant. Some people find it easier because the baby just eats off their plate so they don't have to prepare separate meals or purees. Sometimes you have to sound a bit militant perhaps, to convince your well meaning MIL that you are right not to feed them baby rice at a couple of months old and that they are not starving to death because you haven't shoved a jar of food in them!
I think the whole point of BLW is to be relaxed and not worry about how much they are eating, not eating, rubbing in their hair. It should be the opposite of militant. Some people find it easier because the baby just eats off their plate so they don't have to prepare separate meals or purees. Sometimes you have to sound a bit militant perhaps, to convince your well meaning MIL that you are right not to feed them baby rice at a couple of months old and that they are not starving to death because you haven't shoved a jar of food in them!
I personally hate the way some people believe its an either/or with weaning.
What is wrong with a few purees, a few mushes and a few finger foods?
Best of both worlds.
The no-sugar thing is entirely of your friends making and nothing to do with BLW (beyond the obvious don't let them eat cake 24/7). If you are interested in finding out more about why it is thought to be good for their development then the Gill Rapley book is a good read - but at the end of the day if by the age of 2 they are self feeding a variety of food it really doesn't matter how they get there.
A lot of people say that babies who are BLW eat a better variety of foods as toddlers as they tend to have tasted a wider variety of foods - which does make a bit of sense as purees tend to be several things mixed together so you don't taste each ingredient - so maybe there's something in it, but I know fussy kids who have been puree fed and fussy kids who have been BLW. It's not a clear advantage by any means.
Your friend just sounds a bit mean/bonkers!
I love blw (but that anti sugar until six thing sounds extreme to me and not part if it.)
There ARE allegedly some extra benefits to blw with some research evidence though I can't claim to have checked out all the refs etc. The claims include that it can reduce the power issues that sometimes gather around food/food anxiety/refusal etc. it also does get kids chewing much earlier on than the purée method does, and apparently that helps develop the muscles eventually used for talking (bf does that too in a different way). There is also apparently evidence it can reduce choking risks around age 8/9 mths when the gag reflex moves to the back if the mouth - blw babies have by that point got a lot if experience moving solid food around their mouths, so apparently are less likely to choke compared to mainly purée fed babies who didn't get that practice in while the gag reflex was located further forwards.
It also gives baby practice w motor coordination, pincer, etc. an education psychologist I know says it gives huge kinaesthetic benefits in the sane way as messy play - which of course it basically is
But regardless of the claims above , the reason I personally do blw is that dd loves it, I love it, it makes us all eat better as a family, and it is so easy and fun.
I did it because I was lazy and it improves eye/hand co-ordination. I think it is better but I also think you should do what's best for you and your baby.
Your friend sounds a pain!
In addition to 'finger foods and loaded spoons' you can just let baby scoop up handfuls of things. Dd was happily eating handfuls of lentils, risotto, quinoa, rice, you name it, from six months. I agree with the other posters it is all about relaxed and enjoyable adventurousness.
It is also much older than so called 'traditional weaning' - the structured staggered purée thing is really recent and tied in historically to the emergence of formula feeding and various misunderstandings about the (dis)advantages of baby rice at three months etc. the Rapley book has a v interesting section on weaning methods in the 20th century.
Yeah I'm pretty sure she's made up the no sugar thing. But no bother. He will discover Haribo before he is 2.
Advocates say that children will be in more control with BLW, and not eat beyond satiety. That's been extrapolated to suggest they'll be less likely to be obese.
But anyone advocating an all or nothing extreme approach is probably a bit daft. You need to adapt to your own child. For some that'll be mixing and matching.
Yes more than finger foods and loaded spoons but that's a good shorthand. Ds used to like blueberries, peas and raisins. Dd at the same age likes... boob and chewing all the remote controls and phones in the house. She's definitely doing baby-led but not much of the weaning
(Giggles at mini-K8Middleton's resourceful electronics focused blw!)
the didn't outcome that ifs sometimes suggested if that you end up with a child arranged into an adult diet.because they eat is pretty much always " real food", so end up eating normal stuff rather that the kiddified transition food type stuff . however I'm sure that depends what you freed after all.
eg my friend blw 3 yr old eats lots of things her big kids won't touch ( they are preteen/ tween) egprawns, salami chili, curry etc
We've done BLW with ds, he's 13 months now it's worked out really well as he'll give anything a go, loves all foods, even curry, whereas my sister's little girl at 2 refuses to ever eat fruit, vegetables etc, must be beige or spag bol. But maybe he'd always have been like that? Another friend's ds the same age as mine, she is terrified of giving anything not puréed still, and is used to spooning in a certain amount of food (which if he has finger food he wouldn't eat that much so she worries) so her ds will spit out anything with even a tiny bit of texture or that needs a bit of chewing. Although another friend did a bit of both and he eats like a trouper, so I think as long as you give finger foods at the same time so they get used to it and chewing then it all works out fine. Best benefit like others said it's so easy and you can eat at the same time, they watch you and copy you too. You just need to trust their gag reflex which is very sensitive and try not to be guilt tripped by the baby food company weaning stages as it is a very different way of doing things. Also they use the saying 'food under 1 is just for fun' and play attitude too, so not to worry if they only eat a little, most nutrients and energy are still from milk until then.
Scientific rationale I suppose is along the lines of self regulating appetite and over feeding, later obesity and type 2 diabetes etc. I don't know if it is true or not. They say with breast feeding a baby drinks what they need, the milk comes in let downs, the message to say they're full reaches them and they stop sucking and milk stops immediately. So they learn to self regulate. Whereas bottle feeding (including expressed milk) the teat keeps filling and milk coming out even if they stop sucking, the message to say they are full is not reached right away, so they drink extra, so like the next day after a big Christmas dinner, your tummy is stretched and it takes more to feel full the next time and so on.
So BLW is supposed to be an extension of breast feeding in that the baby decides how much to eat and when they've had enough, whereas spoon feeding purée you can shovel it in. Although I am not sure if that is right, you can't make a baby eat if they don't want anymore, they clamp that mouth shut and turn their head away! Unless it is sweet, then like me my ds has a separate dessert stomach! .
I did BLW because I have twins and it was easier as neither of them had to wait. They don't eat any differently now than their friends (5 yo). Actually there are several things (like curry) that they ate at 2 that won't eat now.
The only thing I notice different from friends children who went down a more trafitional route is that mine are a bit better at sitting at the table for a long while with the family. This might be because BLW advocates children eating with the family and as a result they have learned to sit for longer or it might be that I am stricter about table manners. It's hard to say.
Re the no sugar thing, I would nod and smile and wait to see how she is going to handle party invitations...
There are a lot of claims about what is the 'best' way, not really any evidence. It's just about finding what suits your individual baby. There's nothing that works universally, be it purees, BLW or anything inbetween. Hence radicalisation is idiotic, regardless of approach. I'm wary of extrapolating my own experience to everyone, but I think a significant minority if not the majority borrow a bit from all approaches!
I did BLW for both my daughters. DD1 (5) is now, quite picky and would sit and be fed by me if she could get away with it at every mealtime. DD2 (2.5) will give most things a try, hates being fed and digs in to her meals with hands, fork, spoon, chopsticks or any other available implement.
I think the benefits for me in the short term were the total lack of stress or hassle about mealtimes, no pureeing, variety of foods that they ate when weaning.
In the long term, both girls eat solid food so I suppose that's a result, and they don't have any "issues" around food or mealtimes that I can ascertain, but I suspect that we could have achieved the same result via traditional weaning methods.
Having said all that I am still glad we went the BLW route, not only as a time saver but also because it helped me to be very relaxed about mealtimes, not worry about gagging, and let them explore food in their own way.
One last thing it is worth pointing out (sorry if repeating something others have said) is that BLW does not simply equal finger foods. It's about putting manageable portions in front of baby and letting them decide what to eat, how much, and in what way. Basically it is a hands off approach for parents, but hands on for kids.
Oh, and the best friend sounds like she has got totally carried away.
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I think extremes of either isn't healthy.
We had to do purées due to DS reflux and strong gagging instinct. Otherwise he wouldn't have got protein into him in sufficient quantities. I've known other people who have only done jarred purées, which doesn't seek ideal but you do what you need to.
I've seen excellent BLW children and also the worst eater I know is currently being BLW and survives on entirely
Processed solid foods - cornflakes, raisins, crackers, white bread and ham.
I think as a parent no matter what you do the emphasis should be on good nutrition and variety.
You can do good and bad versions of both!
I actually suspect that eating is like sleeping where babies are concerned. That is, some of them love it and take to it and would do so regardless of parental techniques used and choices made. And some of them just don't fancy it whatever you do!
I think it's just about what works with your baby. I tried BLW with DD but she just wasn't interested. She's just not one of those babies who puts things into her mouth and either played with it or ignored it. It took until she was at least 1 before she would let anything solid into her mouth, even though she had plenty of teeth by then.
Friends who tried BLW had great results and I would definitely try it with DD2!
Militant BLWers are becoming an extension of the mummy wars - the next chapter. The one who told me, because I was going the more traditional weaning puree route, that I was "forcing food down my child's throat" being a delightful specimen of womankind.
I just did weaning - pick-upable stuff got picked up, occasionally un-pickupable stuff gets attempted to be picked up (we had an epic battle with some uncooperative jelly the other day), stuff goes on spoon, on floor, on dog, in dog. Had to do puree and spoon initially as because of her prematurity - she simply didn't have the motor skills to self-feed but was desperately eager for solid foods (and we waited till about 1 week before 6 months, on a ridiculous sized bottle feed, hungry baby milk and still a starving hungry baby with weight gain going on a far steeper curve than I was comfortable with) and she took to them with absolute gusto - when she was at the point of being able and interested to take the lead more - she did so... surely THAT part is truly being "baby-led"
DD1 also had absolutely no teeth till 13 1/2 months (when she cut five in one very very very very very very fucking long week) and some stuff just was beyond her ability (or boredom threshold) to gum to death!
I weaned my two "children" 64 years ago. Nothing much has changed since then except the fruit and veg that was offered was seasonal and locally grown. BLW is making someone a lot of money yet its been around forever. Myself and all my friends put finger foods in front of our babies and let our babies feed themselves. What we also did was feed them with a spoon too.Yes the baby rice and pureed pear was sloppy and we always let them put their fingers in the bowl so they could help themselves at the same time. It seems to me to be a much better way of introducing foods than going from liquid to crunchy. I think BLW is a bit of a cop out for parents that don't have the time or possibly the energy to spend time preparing their baby's meals. Both my girls are slim, they care about what they put in their bodies. Lets stop pretending BLW is anything other than a new name for something that has been going on for hundreds of years. Do we imagine for one minute the Victorians had blenders-nah reckon there would have been a few lumps !!!
As granny says people always did it, they were just laid back and did a mix and didn't have a misleading label. The baby has the choice if 'take it or leave it' the way they always have. The only benefit that I can see is that it does away with commercial jars. It makes no difference whatsoever in the long term. The aim is to get them to eat family meals and how you get to that point really doesn't matter, it is so short.
Having a balanced diet is the important thing and not labelling food as 'good' or 'bad'. Keeping off sugar until 6 yrs is a sure way to make it highly desirable! I don't think she realises how difficult it will be unless she isolates her child.
It is laughable that anyone thinks you can force purées down a baby's throat, they clearly haven't tried it!
However I wouldn't argue with the friend, smile and nod.
The appeal for me with BLW is partly because it feels like a return to what people always have done. It only seems like a new fad because the norm has become weaning based on baby rice, purees and special baby food. I don't think anyone is making any money out of it either, seeing as the whole principle is that you don't need to have anything special and you just give babies normal food. On the other hand, lots of money is clearly made out of the puree type route, with all the different jars of food, pouches, special baby snacks and Annabel Karmel style meal plans and products.
It's not a cop out either. You don't need to faff around stewing fruit and making purees, but then I've seen enough parents who are doing the puree route who seem to rely pretty much entirely on prepared jars and pouches anyway. One reason I like BLW is because I really like food and cooking anyway and I'm enjoying making food for DS that will give him a balanced diet and that he can feed himself relatively easily.
I don't get how BLW is for lazy people as when I tried it I ended up cleaning the floor a great deal more! At least with purees and so on I can whisk the bowl away when DD gets that glint of 'hmm could that fly?'
However, now she is crawling she is trying to BLW onto cat food anyway .
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