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O°C+ rated sleeping bag for cycle touringI'm looking for a light and compact sleeping bag that can handle min temps of around 0-2°C. More likely to be used in min temps around 6-12°C, however I figured it's easier to open it up to get cool, rather than have to try and make it warmer on those cooler nights. Will be used in late summer/early Autumn in central and northern Europe, as well as summer-spring-autumn in Australia on the southern west coast. Prefer to have a full zip option to be able to open it all the way up if needed.
I've seen the Marmot Hydrogen which is a -1°C rated sleeping bag, weighs ~700gm, 850 fill goose down, and packs down light. It's on sale atm for $299 plus postage which is more than I originally expected to be paying for a tent, but like most high performance, light weight gear it comes at a price. Another option I've seen if the RAB Neutrino Endurance 200 Down which is 0ºC min rated (5ºC comfort), weighs 685gm, 800 fill goose down with a water resistant shell. On sale now for around $315 plus postage. Happy to look into any locally sold options as I have noticed the range and prices here in Australia are often quite reasonable compared to OS, especially after postage is factored in. Budget is around $250-300 (plus postage if required). Check out my practical cycling and cycle touring website: VELOPHILE AUSTRALIA
Re: O°C+ rated sleeping bag for cycle touringThe two you suggest there are right on the money. One with similar specs and price that most match your dimensions or sleeping preference.
Some brands tout a special water repellant treatment to the down, which is worth a looking if your encountering frequent drenchings.
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I don't plan on it. I'll have a good tent and a dry bag for my sleeping gear. It is quite wet though in late summer in Scandinavia/northern Europe. Check out my practical cycling and cycle touring website: VELOPHILE AUSTRALIA
Re: O°C+ rated sleeping bag for cycle touringDon't dismiss synthetic fill bags. I recently bought a One Planet Sac-4, synthetic bag from Kelly Basecamp online store. In the past I have always paid heaps for down filled bags. The new bag is a bit heavier and bulkier than an equivalent down fill but it was much cheaper and synthetics still perform if they get wet. The bag is well made and kept me warm at about +2C a week ago. Haven't got time at the moment to quote prices, weights and bulkiness but the synthetics are very good value if you can sacrifice a small amount of weight and space.
O°C+ rated sleeping bag for cycle touringIt's hard to best Marmot products for quality.
I bought a Helium, originally for high altitude trekking, but I'm a warm sleeper and it is just too warm for cycle touring. So I got a Hydrogen which is quite warm enough and is extremely light and compact. It fits into the XS Sea to Summit Event Compression Drybag. Cycle touring blog and tour journals: whispering wheels...
Re: O°C+ rated sleeping bag for cycle touringBe prepared to fork out 50-100 bucks for a liner too. They are worth it.
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Most are around $50 for a silk liner. Apparently you can get good silk liners in Asia for peanuts, a few on eBay that look very good for the price. Check out my practical cycling and cycle touring website: VELOPHILE AUSTRALIA
Re: O°C+ rated sleeping bag for cycle touringJust be warned elStado that most companies give there sleeping bags a temperature degree rating which is false the new standard which takes out the guess work of this and give a true indication if the bag will be suited to it's needs is what there now calling a "Comfort" temperature reading. This new comfort reading is a true indication that if the temperature falls to the comfort level reading your going to still get a good night sleep so look for this new standard when selecting a bag.
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Any reviews/feedback on the Vietnamese liners?
Re: O°C+ rated sleeping bag for cycle touringBest to go with the fill weight for temp indications. I have found that 700g of 900 loft down in a mummy or semi-mummy bag will keep me warm down to below zero. Recently with the Exped matress and tent I have gone all summer and autumn without zipping up the bag - I have just used it as a doona.
That Marmot looks a good one and the price is excellent. When I bought my Mountain Designs over 12 years ago it was over $500. Riding bikes in traffic - what seems dangerous is usually safe; what seems safe is often more dangerous.
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+1 to this & il padrone's comments. The temp rating IMO is a loose guide and subject to significant variation. In the 1 sleeping bag at diferent times I've had some ruddy cold nights around the 0 degree mark, and slept soundly in -10. Count on a liner adding a few "degrees" to the comfort level. If you are physically tired, poorly hydrated or haven't eaten enough your ability to stay warm will be effected. I've found the "waterproof" outer on sleeping bags (gore dryloft on mine) come into their own when you're in a moist environment such as a tent on a cold wet night. If condensation is an issue they can reduce water penetration to the insulation material from drips or when you roll over and lean against the side of the tent. I haven't purchased a sleeping bag for about 15 years, so if you buy a quality one and look after it well, it will last. My last buy was a One Plant, not sure if they still exist. LG = Low Gear
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Yeah I noticed that most new performance sleeping bags mention that. They have a min rating and a comfort rating, that RAB bag I linked in OP for example is 0 min and 5 comfort which is fine for what I am looking for. I'll have the silk liner too in order to add a little extra warmth if needed, plus I sleep pretty warm due to my highly active metabolism... Quite happy to wear a pair of shorts and a tee on a cool day when everyone else is rugged up.
I'd also be interested to hear feedback if anyone else has tried a cheap silk liner from Asia/eBay. Othrwise I'll just get one anyway and post my feedback on this forum and my blog. They're only ~$14 delivered... So not a big investment even if they turn out to be crap. Check out my practical cycling and cycle touring website: VELOPHILE AUSTRALIA
Re: O°C+ rated sleeping bag for cycle touringI am seriously considering a Western Mountaineering HiLite at the moment ... 455 grams and rated to 2 C. Pretty much rates up there as the benchmark amongst the lightweight hiking crowd (e.g., backpackinglight.com) and I respect their views as they are pretty tough in their assessments. Remember but that the HiLIte is getting down into the ultralight category so there are trade-offs such as 1/2 zip. $313 ex the UK delivered from http://www.ultralightoutdoorgear.co.uk/ .
Cavebear2 has one ... packs down so small. He is very happy with his I believe. I haven't found anything that really competes other than the PHD designs products out of the UK but for me I have to custom sizing which makes the price/weight ratio uncompetitive. They also have no zips so you need to be comfortable with that. Yeti gear is good too and you have European standard temperature ratings but they are very pricey. For example their Passion Three is around $544 ex the UK delivered. BTW my two key criteria are around 0 to 5 C, under 500 grams and pack small without having to muck around with compression sacks (more weight and cost) so I am looking at the more specialised end of the market. YMMV. Andrew
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Make sure it is actually silk and not a synthetic mix or synthetic silk. The language used can be quite subtle. If you are paying around $20 to $30 odds on it is not silk at all. Also the word is that they are small. Andrew
Re: O°C+ rated sleeping bag for cycle touringI think the roman palm iv is rated to +5 but i have used it in what everyone thought was zero degrees. yes i was a bit cold. I had on my cotton knit tights, wool top, balaclava, explorer socks and a few other bits of my cotton or nylon clothes laid over the top.
This sleeping bag is very small and light. its 400g. If you have a small emergency type blanket as well or even a silk sleeping bag liner, you could boost the heat sufficiently i expect. Another way to significantly increase the warmth is to make your drink bottle up as a hot water bottle. If you put this in a sock or towel, it will keep warm until morning. I'm going to France in May - July next year . I wasn't going to take it but if i was going in summer, i would think it would be fine if its an ordinary summer. It has a full zip and a good shaped head thingy so you can have it as a hood. It was well priced at about $90 or less. I haven't yet decided what i'm going to do, though i wasn't going to take this one but instead take my down sleeping bag which 3 season rated. I feel the cold. I can cope with being very cold for a few nights but for an extended period, i'm not sure its a good idea. If you are a hot sleeper, then this summer bag should be good enough for you.
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I was also looking at this bag actually. Decided that I wasn't too keen on the half zip and the price was a bit much compared to other options. Not so worried about another bag is a hundred gm heavier if its quite a bit cheaper. Check out my practical cycling and cycle touring website: VELOPHILE AUSTRALIA
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*cough*... I'm sorry but I find that difficult to believe. Sleeping bag warmth is related directly to 1. down weight and 2. bag design. A bag with 550g of 900 loft fill and a mummy, box-wall design, will keep you warm to about 0 to -5 degrees. I find it very difficult to believe that a bag weighing 455g (down weight of... 300g, 350g?) would be warm anything below 5 deg, even if it is a mummy bag with a full box-wall construction. Unless of course you were wearing your clothing in it or you were a very warm sleeper. My old bag had 500g of down in it and it did keep me warm down to just below zero (in a tent) when it was new. Not after several years use though. [edit] That bag has 225g of fill, and... means you have cold spot potential. Not impressed. 2 deg.... yeah go fish! Last edited by il padrone on Sat May 05, 2012 4:07 pm, edited 2 times in total.
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Re: O°C+ rated sleeping bag for cycle touringI have had one of the Western Mountaineering 'lite' bags for a few years and have found it to provide an excellent combination of small volume, light weight and warmth. Not 100% sure but think it is the Summerlite. Weighs total of about 500g. Coldest I've used it so far is about 5 degrees C, but I am confident that I'd be comfortable in frostier conditions.
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Ordinarily I'd be all in favour of lighter weight gear. But the way many ultralight sleeping bags reduce weight is to eliminate essential features such as zips, or least full-length zips. This can seriously compromise the utility of the bag as there may be no way to regulate your body temperature. After a couple of occasions when I woke in the middle of the night in a lather of sweat (and subsequently became seriously chilled), I rarely get into my Marmot sleeping bag now, and mostly to use it as a doona. Even though it is a mummy bag, I can put my feet in the bottom of the unzipped bag and pull the rest over me. I have concluded a sleeping bag is unecessary for touring and have my eye on a Thermarest sleep system which combines a down blanket with a NeoAir mattress. This should be plenty warm for any conditions I'm likely to encounter on a cycle tour and should be much more comfortable and less restrictive than a mummy bag. Only the price is holding me back from buying immediately. Cycle touring blog and tour journals: whispering wheels...
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A good system, and not dissimilar to what I've been doing with my Exped Synmat 7 and 14 year old Mountain Designs semi-mummy sleeping bag. This bag has a full length zip and a zip across the foot so it can be fully opened out if I wish, making full use of all the down. Most of the time it is very warm for me. However I would keep this bag for winter use as it can still be fully closed up to keep me warm on below zero nights. That Thermarest Alpine down blanket is nice but seems to be only good for ~5 degrees. Riding bikes in traffic - what seems dangerous is usually safe; what seems safe is often more dangerous.
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For sure which is why I mentioned that you have to be comfortable with the lightweight, bordering on ultralight weight approach. It is not for everyone. Of course it does not make it a bad bag and the user feedback rates it right up there as one of the best options in this category but it has to be a design you are comfortable with. Regards Andrew
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I have used a Ray-way user made quilt with a footbox for some time now; nothing new in that concept which has been popular in backpacking circles for a number of years, e.g., Jacks R Better, Nunatak or see a list at backpackinglight.com. My only issue with mine is it is a home made one and is rather bulky. Weighs 882 grams + compression sack of 152 grams so is up there at 1034 grams. There are some interesting options out of the US which would bring the weight down to around 500 to 600 grams but they need to be made to order and I am running out of time to do that. May stick with my quilt for now and deal with this issue down the track. Yet to decide. Andrew
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One thing to consider with these sorts of systems is how you sleep. If you toss and turn a lot during the night as I do it may not work so well for you. I have tried integrated mat/sleeping bag concepts in the past and found that I was getting twisted up in the mat during the night, so gave that idea away after one night. Something to consider I guess. Andrew
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Well yes, I do toss and turn a lot, but it's hard to see how this arrangement could be any worse than sleeping under an unzipped mummy bag. Cycle touring blog and tour journals: whispering wheels...
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Ahh, well the Exped Synmat or Downmat may well be your solution Riding bikes in traffic - what seems dangerous is usually safe; what seems safe is often more dangerous.
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[–]ahki[S] 5 points6 points7 points 2 years ago (2 children)
Been working on this for a little bit. Guess it would be a CobraDuino. Pretty much the same idea as you have, simple object avoidance using and Arduino strapped to a cheap RC car. Because I work better with competition and it would be good motivation to improve on our designs, I challenge you to some kind of competition of our machines. Don't really care what it is but I think it would be fun. Other people could enter too if they like.
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More info! What kind of sensors do you use, are you using the original circuitry? What did that thing cost?
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Its a cheap RC car that was bought for me as a gift a few years ago, around $30. Opened it up to look up the chip that its using and managed to find its data sheet online, which was in Chinese. Fortunately, and oddly, the pin outs were in English so I found which ones controlled the H-bridge to the motors. Simple all or nothing control with the radio so I soldered some wires to the chip and plugged them into the digital outputs on the Arduino. For sensors I have some Sharp IR sensors that I plan to use. Built a tiny shield out of perf board so that I can wire everything easily.
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I just had this idea pop into my head but not sure if its been done already. Start out with two Rc Carduinos designed for object avoidance and put them in a small arena.At the end of every minute, add a new carduino into the arena. Sit back and watch how long they survive by not crashing into each other. We can call it survival derby.
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Though if you win by being the last one moving I would start programming my bot to attack the others. Becomes autonomous battlebots then. Which would be awesome!
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So what do we need to do to set up a race? Lap times around a circular track 3m in diameter or something?
Needs to be something simple we can all set up. Was thinking we could design a agreed upon layout and then film our bots running the course. Road cone slalom was one idea I had last night.
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Inc would see something interesting come out of this, annual competition where there are different categories like one where you must use a Mega, and ALL of its IO ;)
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not exactly what you are talking about but still cool
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If I have to use all the IOs then my bot is gonna be lit up like Christmas with all the LEDs on it.
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It doesn't count on the while u were working only the other ones from what I see. Hyocrites eh ?
Why are u trolls the only ones allowed to post OFF topic? 98% of this blog is filled with trash talking, nothing to do with topic? Just asking...
I don't think missy was one of the ppl that talked to cc and the others. Yes she might be here most every day, she post on topic. Starfire started talking to missy. Appears they share some shows that get mentioned on blogs. Imo
Umm... KMA! When I'm here, I use my blog name, unlike you trolls. Gee, I don't have time for this sh!t! I was taking a break. Now going back to yard work.. it's a beautiful day and I intend to enjoy it!
Trying to hook up with random guys from a blog, qualifies as being a ho3. And yes Missy and especially starrfire are here everyday.
Bc I don't give a sh!t about any of you-@alecia did you take trolling 1O1 cuz you did a awesome job of turning everyone of these ppl again each other. This is the most immature psyco blog I come to. Thx for making me rotflmgdao You past that class with strate As !
Where did you learn how to spell? It's STRAIGHT. LOL... F for you.
Not self righteous,truthful and i'm not 'her'.
Get a room got those ppl to leave. Do u see them hear every day like they used to b ?do u see their long personel conversations any more. This is a scorned biotch get over ur rightious self. Ur probly her lmao
Do you guys ever stop to think you brought some of this on yourselves?You started an exclusive little club on Marquees Blog some of you trolled people relentlessly.As soon as someone had a different opinion you all gave them a hard time,you are merely wreaking what you've sewn.Have a good day.
What is the issue u have with her ? U call her these names and u don't even know her. Y don't u tell y u don't like some1 u don't even know. Unless u have no reason. Just bored with your pathetic life. Which is it
You are still a bytch! Go enjoy life on the corner ho.
On her side and trolling. Lol
That wasn't alecia. Trust me. Wasn't saying you were a man. Just trying to make a point about how lame Mr Ed is. I wish you nothing but the best. Actually, I was the "friend" last night. Just really tired of all the gals being trolled, especially you. You never deserved the crap they threw at you. I am on your side.
You make a good point. I agree with you.
@9:48 a.m. okay Alecia. Whatever you want to think to make yourself feel better about yourself. Not because you look, talk and act like a man means I am. All i know is...when I look in the mirror i love what I see. You on the other hand, I don't think you do or else you won't be here attacking me and others. Go outside, take a walk. You'll feel better.
She told u lmao
My vote is Mr Ed. He just can't get over the fact the B. V. doesn't want to hook up with him. Didn't she use the term, I'd rather be boiled in oil. Dude, you do realize that we are all just names on a blog. None of us know who we are really talking to, especially now when nobody uses their original names. You don't know if ppl are male or female, old or young, fat or skinny. He could actually have a fixation on a man! (Not that I think you are a man, BV) Alecia may be a troll, but could you blame her. You gentleman, and I use that term loosely, trolled her relentlessly. She's just getting payback. You created her as a troll. That's on you. Just quit attacking everybody & blaming everybody else. That's the only way there will be peace on this blog.
It actually makes me feel GREAT that these two are so jealous of me..lol. Wow! Great to know I have that power even behind the computer/phone. It only goes to show, not only are you ugly on the outside (which obviously you are since you're so jealous of me) but clearly you are on the inside as well. You both can sit behind your phone/computer all day and write hateful comments. It shows US ALL what sad and lonely lives you both live. PLUS you are just having the men love me even more (not that I need help from the likes of you mental f' ups)!! You come on here typing mean things so I would look bad but instead it backfired. lol. Enjoy your day typing you mean comments while I "actually" go out and have a life. Bye now! Sending BIG kisses and love to my guys out there that have my back!
Why call vixen a tr@mp ? U still mad bc she rejected u ? U are on of two ppl. Who r u ? Mr ed or get room ? Qiuite fing with her head. Get it out in the open pu**y.
I think it's Mr. Ed, and I don't think he's being a scaredy cat about it either. He's openly flaming and you can tell who he is regardless of his aliases. He's the only one I've actually seen openly degrading the women on this blog. That's just my opinion, though. I honestly think he's hilarious, though, and while some of you may take his comments personally, it's just a blog at the end of the day so lighten up!
No name is alecia.
She did say that, she posted that since: so&so time she hadn't posted and the "shrimp" comment was made before the time she had made her last comment. Search the archives if you don't believe it.
Please stay at work. Don't need you here.
You type just like Mr. Ed. Coincidence I think not.
No I'm not mr Ed. You're not using your name either, are you alecia and afraid you will get ate alive by bv and others?
Sounds like alecia was troling again. Woo would say they smell like that. Sounds like eric is alecia to then replyed as starfire. Yea alecia is the cuz of trubles Back to work for me
Lmgdao! @ "how can you trust someone that smells like shrimp?" & @@how she posted it when she was teasing Eric awhile back.
Y don't u use ur real name. Scared of getting trolled by mr ed or r u him
I posted as how, and I'm not alecia
I know it's not possible to post at the same time, but that still doesn't mean she isn't involved she could be posting under the other names for all we know.
Lmao how do u no. Stfu alecia.
Can you trust someone that smells like shrimp?
alecia ? Who ever u r stfu.
She said they posted exaclt atsame time-u can't postat the exact minite. Is that hard to get. Many ppl post around the same time not No1 person can post two posts at exac same time qiut tring to make more truble. And so starfire talked to them. Coolbreeze started talking to her first. Alecia aka coolbreeze tryed trolling her to. Alecia didn't fit so she took reveng on every1. We going to let her win. She is at a good start now we no so y let the blog wars keep going. We no she is wendy to. I don't no about bella. Missy don't come off like the other aliass alecia uses.imo I agree with peace about missy. That is it. K alecia try mixing things up again biotch
@peace be careful of what?What do you think's going to happen to your friend?
Starrfire was the main one talking to fua and coolbreeze. Don't let her fool ya she's a part of it.
BV is a tr@mp anyway.
How does posting at the same time mean Starrfire isn't involved? And the Missy Wendy and Bella aliases started showing up at the same time too. So yeah, be careful with all of them b.v.
It's not so much that. It's not knowing who is who anymore. Well..good night. I'm off to bed.
I'm talking to anyone it may concern.
Who r u talking to?
BV, All I can say is wow! LOL! I read these comments for the last time & I don't think Missy has anything to do w/it, either. The names you listed make sense, tho. I wish everyone would just use their 1 name & get back to some kind of normal. (Am I asking too much? HaHa) Time to catch some z's. C-ya on the blogs! Hi starrfire! Your welcome. Just pointing out the facts! Yes, 3 more days & I'm very excited! :) C-ya!
I know you're going to tell me to stfu,jump off a bridge and accuse me of being a trouble maker.But why do you care so deeply about people typing mean things.I'ts no like they know you who you really are or how you look.Calm down
Hiya Peace! I'm watching "The Amazing Race" on dvr and took a "commercial break" LOL. I read your posts and wanted to thank you for defending me, whether that helps or not. Going back to tv. Talk to ya. soon! (3 more days!) Good nite, gal pal!
Yes, Alecia is Constance, happy Cow, i think wendy and zombie girl, FUA and im starting to think tony t and coolbreeze. Oh whatever. at least now i know. im not talking to anyone anymore..lol. i think that crazy b!t(h was just talking to me be4 u came on here. Crazy b!t(h must have been elvis 2. good nite peace.
LOL! Who f'g knows anymore? I know for sure alecia never contacted Charlie. Is alecia that constance, too? There are so many new names, I can't figure it out! @7:47pm alecia & starrfire posted at the exact same time, therefore, starrfire is not trolling. Kinda rules out starrfire, ya know what I mean?
Lmao ..the crazt b!t(h is probably posting now as tracie . whatever.
@Peace: Oh really. Alecia never contacted Charlie. Someone has been helping me out on Her and said that it was Alecia. She has been going under a lot of names. What about Starrfire? I don't want to blame her and she is cool. I think Alecia is the one mainly causing all this. What the hell is her problem? How can one person just sit and cause trouble all day? Geezes..it's probably thay crazy b!t(h i was talking to be4 u came on and she is being nice. I don't know. If it was, has she lost her f'en mind?
I love smelling skid marks
I am writing comment #150 and I want to say that I would like to smell his butthole or steal his dirty underwear with lots if skid marks in them!
Hey BV! It's me. I just noticed that starrfire & alecia posted at, exactly, the same time.(7:47pm) That rules out starrfie. MoonDancer doesn't come to "MarqueeLand" anymore,I know for a fact. No I wasn't "the voice of reason". I'm glad you know it's not me, 'cause I don't do that. I re-read these comments & I can't make heads or tails of this. I did see on a diff blog that alecia said she was happy cow. She's all those other names, too? She never contacted Charlie, if that helps. This all really s u c k s!(BIG sigh) Have a good night BV!
It's not you Peace. I don't think you are involved. I think itKs more alecia, starrfire, and whoever is going as wendy. Well it really doesn'y matter what i say bc whoever is doing so will just say otherwise but i never thought it of u. i actually thought u were sara h the voice of reason. well it no big deal. im going to call it a night. have a good nite peace and whoever the other is.
What makes you so sure it's Mr. Ed? Maybe you didn't ..who ever you are but i think (no .. i know) 2 or 3 are not as they seem in your circle which it's okay. I'm used to it. I really don't need anyone to defend me. I capable of handling my battles, trust me on that...but thanks anyway. Well, I best be going. Watching The Walking Dead and so far it pretty much sucks. Need more action. Well, thanks for the talk or whatever this was. Good night. Have a great week.
BV, you still out there? Last time I posted was about the animal skinning thing.(Think that was it)Then tonight I finally get a chance to check in(bunch of crap hap'd. :( ) & I see your comment @ 7:18pm. Can you explain to me what is going on? Also, is alecia really all those diff names??? I never did anything to f you over, so I'm just really confused by all this. What's up?
I'm a friend. Sick of Mr Ed dragging your name through the mud, then blaming everyone else for it. Nobody has turned on you except him. Please know that.
@10:52- Who are you? Are you one of us, or, on their side?
You are welcome. You do have friends. Don't let Mr Ed get to you. He's obsessed with you. That is obvious & scary, too. If this is Mr Ed, posting again as bv, really sad.
Don't know if ur friend or foe but thank u. it doesnt matter anymore. im done w this sh!t w them. I rather get hit by a truck then deal w these fake azzez, 2 face people. dont know y they hate me so much but i honsetly don't care anymore. Good night.
Whatever.. . Anyway, I said what I had to say and if you don't want to believe me that's your problem. I know you guys don't like me, and I don't like you. I more so don't like Wendy, Starrfire and of course the star "Alecia aka Missy" :=] ... Ahhh ..no surprise there..lol. I know you guys have been trolling me, and, quite frankly, I don't give a ratt's azz what you say or think about me. So, all you guys in your "little circle" can all kizz my white beautiful azz. Have a good night and a great week!
If you want to be a woman all the time, get the operation. I think your hormones are way out of whack. Do you really believe bv put her actual phone # out there for all you idiots to see. What drugs do you take anyway? Must be quite potent ones. You live in your own little dream world. Ah yes, Mr Ed's World. Sad.
Seriously, just leave me the hell alone. I'm disgusted by you people. I rather go hungry and starve to death than to have anything to do with you fake azzez. Good night
Whoever this is..you honestly don't know me. You wish I was the person you want or think of me to me, but, i'm not. This is honestly..not mister ed this time. Now i think you 4tarrfire and Alicia, p!$sed me off and trolled me enough. I do NOT NOT like you two so do me the f!cken favor and leave me the f' alone. thank you. If you do not believe me..please enlighten me on how I can prove to you that it's really me. I'm not afraid to give my ph number out. Gave it to Missy to n the b!t(h didn@ even try to crank call me to c if it was me. sh!t no body did. so the person who said about the trolls coming after me..well guess what..i guess i have more friends on here than you thought i did. Have a good night. Again..think of a way so I can prove to u that's it's really me. the wh o re, c u nt ect.. Azz h!le
I don't believe any of those posts were bv. They all sound just like mr ed. I remember her as being a lady. That is not the way she ever talked. Mr ed on the other hand, sounds just like him. So whose causing trouble, only the horse, of course.
Stfu and stick a dill pickle up ur az z
@alecia you are a fat gross disgusting, ranchy, smelling, azz, lard p!g. i can c y u r bitter. if i had to buy 2 seat to fly i would be disgusted w my life as well. geeze if i was to gain 3 pounds and i usually feel disgusting. here a thought u gross out fat pig ..get off ur hoover round..n instead of taking the easy way out lard as-s instead of going going out n buy a bigger size jeans how about not wolfing down 20 cheeseburgers, fries n coke ..no not diet coke..but coke n work it off pig azz ugly b!t *h!!
@Starrfire: stfu you stupid fat dog f'en piece of sh!t. the only d!ck that u can get to f u is a dog
I'm not afraid of you. I pretty much gave you my ph number and address and you didn't call or contact me. I'm not afraid of your name to me. I know i'm a cxxt and a w 8ore in bed for my man. Honestly what else can you say to me that would hirt me. Well, maybe eating me might hurt i rather getting eaten by a man. do you know how stupid you (2) come off? Everyone knows its you. Geezes get a life. You're on here 24/7. I see fat, jabless, old, sad,.. i do feel very sorry for both of you. I really do. Don't hate me because i'm beautiful :=) and have a life. Wlll, have a good night. xoxo
Why do all the ppl on this blog seem to get so upset when somebody disagrees with something or says something stupid or funny you get so worked up.Here's a thought after i'm finished commenting i'm going to get my outfit ready for work tomorrow and i'm coming back to go off on so anonymous blooger.
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So the c-u n*t is talking to you. are you suprised that I called myself that? Don't be..because i am a nasty c Xnt n your words doesn't hurt me. Yes.. i am a w h ore and enjoy being called one in bed with "my man". Not the wh8re you would like me to be. I do enjoy get slapped, handcuffed, f8uck*d up the azz, having my p**y rammed hard, hair pulled, dirty talks, getting my panties n clothes ripped off me by "my man" . having great wild s*x. What's wrong with that? :=) . oh..don't forget the food ..hiney, cream, ice..n all the other crazy ways of GREAT F88KING!! .. lol . have a good night girls.
Stfu bv before I find you and eat you!
You do talk to Missy and wendy. I believe you know who is behind the alias, and you're jealous of BV too.
@Starrfire: lol what are you talking about? I'm not quite seeing what comments you are referring to. Would you be be so kind to enlighten me with with your b/s head games for today? Please..we and i'm sure members of your team would as well. Please..the floor is yours..preach the bullsh!t you and fat p!ece of sh!t came up with.. to me cu*t :=] ... oh please excuse the word c u nt ..it doesn't bother me bc i know i am one C* U *N T !!
The truth is alecia, did get it started. And because it's their buddy, starfire and Missy and the others are involved too.
this used to be a fun place til all you whiny losers showed up. just a bunch of troll magnets!
vixen gf .. hey at least u take baths, look good and f888 men with class. look at me i have to fxxk crck pim piing n !*g g ers that sells crack at the corner. eh what u expect. im a fat p!ece of smell wht w h ore
@BV I honestly have no clue who that person is. Do you really think it'll stop if we ask her/him? We have no control over this – at least I don't. Sorry...
Sh!t gf.. bv at least ur skinny n have looks. Im just a fat wasted piece of lard.
Neither did you, so get over yourself.
U fat fuc kin b!tch!
and im going to contiune posting ur fr!cken name until u contact me. This fat f'en piece of sh!t has noting better to do than come on here n say sh!t bout me. f that fat obese w hore!!!!
@charlie crack: you better fr!cken contact me bc i'm done with that b**ch! My friends and I all tried to come together and try to be nice with you and she still continue her b/s. I'm SO F'EN DONE!!! What the hell her problem? I want to talk to you!
@ charlie, fix, peace, moondance or whoever is on ur team better talk some sense into this woman. i want charlie crack info so i contact bc this c8unt has had it with fat b!9ch n trust me u got the right Beautiful Vixen this time!!!!
It sounds like I'm reading the trailer park trash newsletter here. Enough already!
Don't talk bad about where you live.
You're on the wrong blog. You need to find the Harlequin Romance site for your drivel.
Does anyone have the email address for Charlie Crack? I only want to know bc if this fat b!t(h is in his circle I want her to stop. This has gone on long enough. I'm done.
who r u? what side r u on? i'm on the good side. what does that means about yoi better start from the beginning? is that you? You know who.
Perhaps u better start from the beginning..Perhaps u better start from the beginning. Perhaps u better start from the beginning. Perhaps u better start from the begining. .....
Yeah hypocrites!!
U trolls have not said one dxmn thing about any of the topics. Go figure.
im gamed! fxxk i'll make up ppl just to entertain u motherfxxkers. i have enough voices going on in my head anyway to do so! shhhiiitttt i should be in the movies directing or sum sh!t like that. not here w y'all crazy boring azzez. smack enuff im out! got a drink w me name on it . its calling me... eddie eddddiiieee c um n drink me. just joking. im not a drunk. just love fxxking w u'all. but 1 can't tell who is sitting behind tee computer typing. lmfdao!! night now.
@Sara Huges- Thank you. Trolling can't completely stop cuz then it would be boring but the bad insults can tone down if ur side stop as well. right mr. ed? what my troll friend wrote above. that's harmless. they r just words anyway. but only time will tell the outcome on how "your trolls" behave. we do leave them alone at times bc we also get tired of it then "ur trolls" will start it all over again as with my friends. Not starting trouble. just a nasty insult as ho / wh o re n coming up w fake guys name 2 fxxk w sum1's head is uncalled 4 n will lead to nasty n fat jokes targeting mostly aleica cuz we have already known where the trolling on vixen started. we all did. have urselves a good evening now.
They do want it to keep going. Where else can they get attention & play hero?
Good one tracie! Lol!
I like the name Constance, it reminds me of when my bowels are hard. Doo doo is so wonderful!
Constance probably looks like a man.
That wasn't funny, a good insult for the loser guys but not funny. @TonyT hold your ground on a blog? That sounds immature. Like Sarah said why not ignore them? Act like adults and stop stooping to their level.
Yeah, mr Ed is a complete idiot. But the "Ladies" that you mentioned they were in on the trolling of vixen. Alecia was the first one if anyone remembers. And if they would just say what they have to say, and ignore the trolls I think alot of it would end. It's like you want it to keep going or something.
Thx. I thought the 'l' was a 'i' now I'm lmao !
@mr ed read your little remark. i have nothing but respect for the ladies. real men don't attack women, they protect them. just because you are such a loser, you think that's the only way to get their attention. wrong kind of attention, bro. one of the gals tried being nice to you. what did that get her. trolled relentlessly, i would assume. you are such a fool. why don't you give it a rest, and just give them a break.
Laughing my pretty azz off
No problem but what does it stand for?
Sorry lmprettyao
@starrfire & missy I like dexter, too. glad to see they renewed it for 2 years. @constance hold your ground. don't let it get you down. the men, I use that term loosely, deserve what they get for all their oh so funny comments.
Ur funny as he!! What does Imprettyaf mean ?
Good one! You go girl!
@Mr.Ed now the 'MEN' you just named know how to talk to women,they probably can get one to do whatever they wanted her to do;give him a bath,a shave,massage cook him a good meal and give him some real good lovin',you'd be lucky if a meth head b!tch would give you a bj and some cold chicken skin lmprettyaf.
Im off of here 4 now moose. go eat urself 2 death. yea u r a cow alright. just not a happy cow a faaattttt one! Lmfao! mooooo mooooo the grounds shakes. phuke u b!t(hes. smack enuff lol
@CONSTANCE!! o now ur u n ur friends want to play nice. u didnt want that be4 when we asked 4 it n u were trolling our azzes off huh? ur only sorry bc u got caught. word of advice. PLEASE STEP AWAY FROM THE BUCKET OF CHICKEN SKIN N GRAVY !
we're just playin with ur. y gettin so mad huh? c um on moose its nothing 2 it. u came on here trollin ppl. callin ppl names. nasty names. pretendin 2 be fua 2 again fxxk w/a certain person u seem to hate so bad on here. u had ur laugh now its our turn. maybe im mr ed, maybe im beautiful vixen, or evel, or rebel, tin tin, get a room (u must be him 2), observer etc u kn where im goin w this. im goin to change the way i speak to u just to fxxk w ur mind even more. u seem to eat up that puz zy type of a man. ma ma bark, daddy listens type. (no curse words anymore. so that way u would be totally confused as 2 who is trolling u. REMEMBER that k?). or u like the closet type-where in front of ppl they treat their ladies w respect n behind closed doors they do a chris brown ur friend tony t, coolbreeze or whatever the fat fxxk is going as now does it. beat his woman behind close doors. Huh? now he has anger issues. That's what he does. lmao.
Can u pls cut it out? Can't u have an adult coversation without throwing insults? We don't know what ppl look like in real life and we're all anonymous here. This is getting tiresome, so grow up PLEASE???
@Mr.Ed@TonyT is right you do have it in for the women on this blog,when the guys are trolling you you're a scared little wimp.They tear your a55 up, on the other hand when it's girls you type all crazy in capital letters ranting about their imaginary weight problems you think they have.I think your mother is or was a big woman and your father gave her a hard time,i'm right aren't I?You're not going to admit it I know,it's to easy to sit a that computer and type away your anger.You have real issues I guess that's why you drink,get some help this going off on women here isn't helping at all.
U do know i really do love u alecia right? i only pick n tease ppl i love
I bet u eat a cat of urs a day. y r u so fat? is that y ur bitter? did u run a mile 2day like i recommed u do? its good 4 the heart have a nice day 2 alecia.
i drink KFC gravy by the gallons while eatin pounds of their fried chicken skin all in one sitting.then wolfin down a whole cheeze cake afterwards
Lol oh Mr.Ed you never stop do you?Have a great day.
Hi, starrfire I'm a lesbian wanna ride my tongue and let me dil-do fuk you? I'd be very happy to do it!
Yay, two more seasons of "Dexter"! Missy, I agree – it's the only show that I root for the serial killer! I love that show!
If I were Rihanna, I'd be freaked out at what Chris Brown said. Demi had flings? I wonder with whom?
Attention Chris Brown: You will never shake off being a violent ni&&er, that's just what ni&&ers do. Can't fight your nature, now matter how filthy and worthless it is.
Yes,not unlike someone we know ha!
Wow, Chris Brown sure seems to have anger issues still, huh?
There is a way they can trace ip numbers. I dont know how but they do it but they can. How do u think they find ppl when they threaten to bomb schools etc.? @alecia u admitted at @7:37 am that u're micky 88 n others... so that means u trolled vixen n u r still doing so (we all know it) n god knows who else u r trolling. Jealous of someone you've never met. Here is a thought (don't hurt urself in the process of doing so. I sure it would be hard when ur foggy from all the meds). Get up from behind your computer, take charge of ur life, take up activities (EAT GREENS, WORKOUT, LOSE WEIGHT GET A JOB, go clothes shopping, get ur hair, nails done, feel better about urself, GET A MAN, GET LAID, TAKE ANAGER MANAGEMENT CLASSES), go out in2 the world meet ppl, make something of ur life instead of coming on here hating on ppl. Must be sad to be u. I'm off!
Well, that was a lame attempt to put the blame elsewhere. You are undoubtedly the worst troll ever. Nice try. Go work out & get some of that aggression out & leave the rest of us alone.
Its smells like who know who n partner all over this fxxking block. missy aka as alecia=constance=whatever fxxking name you go by im going to the gym. maybe u should get ur fat fxxking a$$ there to instead of causing trouble on here for vixen, myself n others. u r one sad mistake of a person. the maker really fxxked up when he made u! u seriously r one twisted p!ece of work. u r the one thats bipolar n need ur meds. i have a fxxking life so u two losers can keep trolling ur fxxking selves. i never in my life thought i can hate peeps from behind a blog but u two n ur circle did that. you mother fxxkers can go jump in a lake of fire! im off! give the bloogers a break you sick fxxks
i don't troll the ladies. not my style. i do feel sorry for beautiful vixen, though. mr ed just won't leave her alone. if you are reading this girl, i'm on your side. time for that loser to leave you alone alone along with the other girls. put the bottle down mr ed. way to early for all this hatred.
@tony & constance-i haven't see bv on here as much this week only when she comes on to say hi to evel n it seems that their( emailing or something from what i seen on a comment). or make one or two comments. maybe she is just sick of all of this. just my take. ppl get tired of u all trolling them. get a life
@Mr.Ed as drunk as you get how did you know they were woman?lol and if they were you paid for it.What did you do sell some stolen library books from work?Did you wear your Mr.Peabody glasses when you went down on those stank infected pu55ies so you could see the cl*ts?When you finally came up for a breather i'll bet you had enough yeast on your wrinkled face to open a bakery.lmprettyao.
well mr ed, i'm not an evil sob like you. i don't come on here looking for a date. i don't care if you are young or old, fat or skinny. i just like to talk with all ppl. just getting really tired of you attacking the girls. i've noticed in the past, you don't like it when other guys come on to post, either. you are really screwed up in the head, dude. find a new hobby & give it a rest.
Man they'll never admit to it. These peeps are losers. they dont even have the b alls to tell it even from behind a computer
So fxxking tell us already!!!!! why do you mother fxxkers come on here and fxxk with her?! we're all waiting!!!!!
The only person that trolls you is Mr Ed. (unless this is Mr Ed). You told him to f off, so he won't let it go. So sad to be him.
@constance ... no u dont know u'r fxxking with. u think im fxxkin afraid of u mfs
So c um on bad boy. tell me about urself. i get the feeling you like to play games...ummm whatelse?
Give it up vixen. those fxxkers lie all the time. they wont know the truth if it hits them in their faces. they hate you for no reason
This is really me. Why do you hate and troll me? I'm not cursing. See i'm nice. I know you have been (fill in the blank) with my head. See i never curse cuz i'm a saint. So lets have it. I would like to know.
Why do you hate me and troll me all the time?
That was a good one! lmao! You have a point. That's about all he could get. @Mr Ed write what ya know, huh?
My rug*
@mr ed you are so obvious. vixen never talked like that to anyone. for the love of god, take your meds before you hurt yourself. if you keep driving the girls off, you will eventually be the only one on the blog talking to yourself. ahh, maybe that's your plan. watch out the rubber room is calling you.
Tony if i was a fly on the wall this is waht i be hearing slap, slap, slap...oooooooooo am going to shoot!!!! ooooo fxxk i got it all over my stuff rug!!! lmfao
@Mr.Ed if you would put that bottle down for a minute then maybe you would stop waking up to smelly,chessy,crusty a** in your ugly old dried up face lol.
@tony. I have a feeling u r everything a woman wants in a man. i better ur young, good looking, great tone body, great mind, and a well hung c o (k. u'r evey woman's dream. u r so dreamy. i wish u were here licking my toes n other area of me. i wish u were here spread!ng my legs apart as u bury ur face between my thights and eat my tasty pu$ * all day. Put a little honey on that u its even better. lap it up like a hungry fxxking animal then turn and r*-pe that pu$ *y and pound me u r thick co-(k! c um here lo.ver. make me s/ex toy make me ur fxxkin machine make me ur w ho re for the day. lmfdao!
It snowed almost 6 inches here in Ankorage. Did it where you are? Gosh it is beautiful. We really do hope everyone is having a happy weekend.
Somebody call the paramedics that maniac's on a rampage,you don't know who you're playing with I don't care about your girly insults you hard-up b*stard, come on i'm so scared I dare you.You are the most stupid idiot out there lmprettyao.
@Tony. I sowly want to trace ur lips with my tongue n softly bite on ur lower lips then turn around n snapp your fxxking neck.
Hi Tony, how r you bad boy? I hope you having a lovely day luv. I wish i was there w you so i can run my fingers thro you hair, pull you face softly towards me, & slowly kiss your sweet lips. baby you turn me on so bad. Thinking of you makes my n !pples hard & makes me thinkle all over. My pu$ xy is so wet. im slowly playing with myself as i think of u. oooo the things u make me feel im ashame to think them. how can i think so nasty thoughts of you. o come here my be my bad boy. mama wants to play
@TonyT thank you,but that lush doesn't bother me.Even if his drunk a** tries to pull me out of the computer i'll come back as long as I want to.That clown is so off base as to all the trolls he thinks I am lol,you loser when your hung over azz finally gets up and read this you blood pressure is going to sore,and you'll be on a rampage once again,but this time you'll have a reason.lmprettyao.
What a bunch of losers trolling good people. No wonder it's boring in here with mostly dumb trolls. It's pathetic!
@mr ed you off your meds again. why do you have such a fixation with women? are you thinking about getting a s@x change? you certainly do enjoy talking to yourself all night long. you trolled the crap out of beautiful vixen, starrfire, now missy. what did they ever do to you? they leave a nice post, & you are on the attack. dude, you need to get out of the house & get some fresh air. if you want to troll somebody, why don't you come after us dudes. i think you are just scared to troll us, cause you'd get a fight you can't handle. you are so sad, dude. hey girls, I'll talk to you. hope you are all doing good. sorry about these morons. i don't think their mommies taught them any manners.
Listen biotch no1 believes u now. Stfu and go away. Lose some weight while your at it. U had it in for all the ppl that trolled ur fat azz. Do u feel even now.
So many times i've seen my name you must love it the last time I was here was when I asked Mr.Ed was he a librarian.That's okay use it I don't mind some of the things that you've said in my name have been hilarious.
Happpy cow=mickey88=conatance brookes=wendy. What a biotch. Have to admit she trolled us good. Now we know who u are u best keep ur fat azz off the blogs.
U trolls are so dum. I told u yesterday that I was wendy. Then I, yes ,I said don't take my credit.By the way, I'm Mickey to. I have 2 other aliass to. I think u know what they are now, eh. Moo u mfrs. Ur so easy to play. Dum azzs lmao
@Hey- – – Went back 2 that blog. funny thing. mickey88 had said was 2 leave mr. ed out of it. werid huh? up until recently she was always saying hi 2 him & i though it was funny y she wanted 2 leave his name out of it. makes sense now. The person said she was a woman, that they say hi to her all the time, etc. another weird thing that was said recently on one of the wyww blogs this week sum1 said that alecia said she was happy cow...huh? did u or any of the other trolls remember alecia saying she was happy cow? lol. I sure don't. i wonder why they hate her so much.
dont know if ur on my side (mr ed) or missy. very tired. not sure what im reading . Miscommunication?? dont know. ill deal with that b!t ch 2 mor if im up for that annoying cxnt
yea its snowing from ur flee infested ole c un*t. Go find rover so u can bend over n let him f xxk u since thats the only c o(k u can get to fxx k u. good night u fxxked up ole wh ore.
everyone notices that they are always bring up vixen's name. i dont know how fxxking peeps like that can look in the mirror and be happy at what they see. i wish i had the pleasure to spit in their fxxking faces
U must be new to the blog cuz u didnt know i used 2 joke around w these fxxking peeps be4 they got all stupid on the blogs. yes i wasnt nice but i was a motherfxxker like i am now. i told those mfs how many time to ignore the trolls but the fxxking azzholes didnt listen. they turn on every1 on here including vixen, me n other. turn peeps against each other. turn vixen against me. They can all go fxxk themselves. so excuse me for not giving a d@mn bout them. 2 face mfs that they r
Probly obese that's why she hates BV lol
Is Missy, stfu and stop being a b!tch.
Why do you troll BV? She's always cool to people on here.
No she is not.
yea mr no it all. lol. Y start the trouble. didnt do enough trolling on the trolls today
it really wasn't Mr. Ed this time, but since you know it all... Whatever. I see Missy posting that she wasnt here all night in 5,4,3,2...
Went back on a few blocks n u can tell. i wonder y they hate her so much.
Yea they all fxxking lie. funny thing they come on here n say hi to her n be nice to her but they really cant stand her. we all know it.
I was actually have drinks with some hot naked women in a hot tub. were u jealous that i wasnt here to troll u? lol.
Remember when Missy said she knew nothing about Mickey88? she was talking to starrfire on that blog when "Mickey" apologized to vixen. With all the drama that came out on that blog I know she couldn't miss the name Mickey88. See she lied about that.
I'll be keeping track of u b!t(h. dont do anything stupid bc i will be watching @constance aka missy
I c a big ole bear outside. im going n skin it. dont wait up for me.
I think ur the other b!t(h .. umm whats her name agin? starfox of something
She is always trolling b.v. dont know what her problem is. she was on here all night crying for some attention and nobody gave it to her so now she is trolling bv. i thought u had a bf that eats that nasty build up ole p -u $$y cheese u have growin down there ole crusty c * nt? yep he would need that pu.$$y hair to floss that ole nasty cheese from between his teeth when he is finish.
wow wow wow there missy. ur the 1 that came on here stirring trouble ripping skin off of live animals! Y r u trolling vixen now? What do u mean her friends knows? little mad that she has friends as trolls. dont get it. ur not a troll? u troll her all the time thou.
No. Actually I'm beautiful vixen but only my friends would know that now stop being an azz to people on here. Tired of this I'm going to bed.
Constance is Missy.
I'm lol at the new app comment. Your so full of sh!t its making me lol. That's desperate to lie like that. O tee hee that was a good one. Lol
lol. little bored
Missy leave BV alone, use the name Mickey for good, not evil.
The 11:07 to 12:16 Comments are all you; I can see your ip address on the app I'm using. lol!
Have a wonderful night watching tv with your cats Missy!
Sister Christian MOTORIN !
NIght Ranger Rules. Meet me at the bath house.
Im out on the town searching for some gay loving. Any strapping young men out there looking for some action?
Lmao mr ed got burned! How did that feel mountain boy Lmao
Going to pick on me tonight, huh. Well, have at it. I'm headed out for some real fun. Have fun sitting on your computer all night.
All I do is watch tv all day... All night. I have a great life.
Find a cliff and jump off!
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David Aldridge: Wizards'3-yr deal w/Randy Wittman is in the $3-$3.5M range annually, per industry source. @Adrian Wojnarowski first to report deal was close. Twitter @daldridgetnt
Adrian Wojnarowski: The Washington Wizards are near an agreement on a three-year contract extension with coach Randy Wittman, league sources tell Yahoo Sports. Twitter @WojYahooNBA
Wittman's contract had been set to expire this summer, but both the organization and coach had been motivated to extend the partnership. The contract is expected to be finalized in the near future. Wittman had a breakthrough season for the Wizards, advancing to the Eastern Conference semifinals before losing in six games to Indiana. After head coaching jobs in Minnesota and Cleveland, Wittman has found stability and success centered on the Wizards' talented young core of John Wall and Bradley Beal. Yahoo! Sports
Yet there were strong signals Thursday night that Wittman will be back next season alongside longtime Wizards front-office chief Ernie Grunfeld. ESPN.com
There were undeniable rumbles going into the playoffs that a first-round exit, even against the higher-seeded gritmeisters from Chicago, would cost Wittman his post. Talk of a run at the veteran likes of George Karl or Alvin Gentry has been circulating in coaching circles for far longer. ESPN.com
The Wizards players came through on their end of the bargain. Now, they are waiting on Coach Randy Wittman to deliver on his promise to attempt a dunk if the Wizards beat the Chicago Bulls in the first round. Washington Post
"Witt got to be a man of his word," Beal said of his coach's planned dunk attempt. "He was supposed to do it last round. He had up until the first game to dunk. You know Witt, he needs a couple days to get stretched out. Hopefully he'll do it. I think he can do it. Maybe." Washington Post
Leonsis declined to comment on the futures of Wizards General Manager Ernie Grunfeld and Coach Randy Wittman. "I don't think it's appropriate to talk about people's contracts when you're in the playoffs," Leonsis said. "What I've said all along, and what I'll say is, I only can worry about what I'm dealing with on a one-to-one basis with management. When we bought the Wizards not even four years ago, I made the assessment that there was less risk in blowing the team up and starting from scratch than there was in trying to build around it. "We had lots of conversations with Ernie and Ernie was very, very straightforward with me, which was, 'Well, I can guarantee you that you're going to be really, really bad.' We played five rookies the first year that we owned the team. We had five starting players who were rookies. We weren't trying to tank; we just had so many first-year players. … Everyone in the organization has done a good job, but it starts with the players, and then the coach." Washington Post
Michael Jordan's Bulls swept the Wizards in three games in 1997 (after a nine-year drought for Washington). The Wizards beat Scott Skiles' grimy Bulls in six games in 2005 (after an eight-year drought). And now, the grimier Tom Thibodeau Bulls will host the Wizards in Sunday's Game 1 (after a six-year drought). "Mind-set is to go in there and win the series; that's the only mind-set you should have," Coach Randy Wittman said. "We've played this team the last two years extremely well; we are 2-1 against them this year. They came in and smacked us pretty good last game so that should be a good fresh wound on our guys, the message that they sent us last we played them." Washington Post
John Wall and Bradley Beal are both learning about the intensity and challenges of battling for postseason position and Wednesday's game against the Charlotte Bobcats was a struggle for the duo. Wall, the first-time all-star, and Beal, an invite for Team USA tryouts this summer, combined to miss 23 of 33 shots in the Wizards' 94-88 overtime loss and Wittman didn't hold back when asked to critique their performances. "When you don't put effort in, you're not going to have good showings. It just filters down," Wittman said. "You can't play with no energy or effort at one end of the floor and expect to turn it on at the other end of the floor. It doesn't work that way. That's been proven with these guys. It was almost like we were spinning our wheels in mud. We just didn't come out with any enthusiasm. I don't even know if they had a sweat broken at the jump ball." Washington Post
Coach Randy Wittman appears to be on the verge of guiding the Washington Wizards to the playoffs. And if the Wizards get there for the first time in six seasons, Wittman undoubtedly will receive praise. He'd rather receive a new contract. Wittman's current one expires after the season. Although qualifying for the postseason would be a significant accomplishment for the franchise — especially considering the Wizards' recent history — owner Ted Leonsis expects the Wizards to be a playoff team. Leonsis has set the bar high, and Wittman realizes he must clear it. Washington Post
Wall took 29 shots in the 113-111 defeat at Verizon Center. That's 13 more than Bradley Beal, 21 more than Trevor Ariza and Marcin Gortat, 15 more than Nene and 20 more than Martell Webster. Coach Randy Wittman had a sitdown with Wall and went over the video. "John's a competitor. I sat down and talked with him," Wittman said. "It's not a malicious thing. He wanted to try to take over the game for us. Sometimes you try so hard it's counterproductive because he's the one guy that can get a lot of guys shots, get them into a rhythm especially at the start of the game. That's what he's got to try to continue to do. When he does that, they're in a rhythm. John's going to get his opportunities. The ball is in his hands." Washington Times
Chewing out Gortat while chewing his gum, Wittman denied that the exchange was anything serious or unusual. Gortat threw up his hands and nodded his head as Wittman spoke to him. "He had a spirited conversation with me? I was coaching him, you mean?" Wittman said when asked about what he said to Gortat. "You're saying there was a confrontation? I have a conversation with everybody on our team. I don't know what you're talking about." Washington Post
Wizards Coach Randy Wittman scanned the box score as he sat at the podium after the Wizards' 101-88 loss on Friday to the Toronto Raptors. Wittman sighed, then explained that he was "shocked" and "disappointed" with his team's listless performance, adding that some "selfish play" had crept in and contributed to an embarrassing defeat that was much more lopsided than the final score would suggest. "We've proven over the last couple of years you can't play that way," Wittman said, shaking his head. "And we're getting concerned with, 'Why am I coming out? How many minutes am I getting? How many shots am I getting?' rather than, 'What is the team doing?' and we didn't do that tonight and that is disappointing because we're not good enough to do it that way…We have to come back together. It is not about 'me' it's about 'us' and it has to be focused on us and it was focused on individuals rather than the team." Washington Post
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Next Generation of No. 1 Low-Cost 2D Design Software Increases UserProductivity Across Extended Design Teams
SAN RAFAEL, Calif., Aug. 9 /PRNewswire/ -- Autodesk, Inc. (Nasdaq: ADSK) today announced AutoCAD LT(R) 2000 software, the only affordable 2D drafting solution offering greater performance, ease-of-use, drawing productivity, accessibility to design data, and seamless integration with AutoCAD(R) 2000 software. As part of Autodesk's Design 2000 family of products, AutoCAD LT 2000 brings unmatched functionality and compatibility across all Autodesk(R) solutions to new-to-CAD users, occasional drafters, and extended design teams. With this release, Autodesk achieves a new level in the high-volume CAD category by offering users many sophisticated yet easy-to-use features such as the AutoCAD(R) DesignCenter(TM), Multiple Design Environment (MDE), 100 percent round-trip AutoCAD 2000 drawing compatibility and increases in performance. AutoCAD LT 2000 is based on the fully reengineered AutoCAD 2000 software. AutoCAD is a known and understood CAD tool valued by more than two million design professionals around the world.
According to Michael Westfall, owner and senior designer at MARTECH Technical Services, "With its Multiple Design Environment and new DesignCenter features, AutoCAD LT 2000 allows us to get work done faster. The new plotting interface allows awesome hard-copy flexibility. This is by far the most capable AutoCAD LT yet to be released. No other CAD product in this price range has the depth or power to match AutoCAD LT 2000."
"AutoCAD LT 2000 is a powerful and comprehensive program with a wide variety of applications. It is easily used to maintain our twenty-two laboratory layouts and keep them current," said John H. Burger, the Corporate Occupational Safety/Health/Environmental Officer (COSHEO) at Woodson - Tenent Laboratories, Inc. "There is a tool for almost anything that needs to be done, and the use of these tools is straightforward. Of all the programs I use on a continuous basis, AutoCAD LT 2000 is a joy."
A proven favorite in the affordable 2D CAD category, AutoCAD LT software is an established industry leader and has been ranked No. 1 in revenue for the last four years according to PC Data. Used by more than one million architects, engineers, designers, drafters and managers, AutoCAD LT is the perfect solution for users across extended design teams including large corporations, partners and collaborators that drive projects, as well as the small to mid-sized companies and independent consultants that bid to participate in various project phases. Team members outside the core design staff typically use the AutoCAD LT professional program for editing, light drafting, and review and approval functions -- adding expertise to the original CAD drawings. These users want an affordable, yet sophisticated drafting solution that ensures design excellence, drawing compatibility and minimal project risk.
Design Sharing and Compatibility
AutoCAD LT 2000 software provides an economical channel for design collaboration and information sharing among team members, partners and clients. The new ePlot feature lets users electronically plot drawings to the Web using DWF (drawing web format) files, greatly enhancing online collaboration.
In addition, its native AutoCAD 2000 DWG compatibility uniquely positions it as the only low-cost, professional, 2D CAD solution that offers 100 percent round-trip data integrity and visual fidelity with AutoCAD 2000 software. The Y2K-compliant software also offers round-trip compatibility with AutoCAD Release 14, AutoCAD Release 13, AutoCAD LT 97 and AutoCAD LT 98.
Drawing Productivity Enhancements
Increasing overall user productivity resides at the core of this new AutoCAD LT release. The new Multiple Design Environment available with AutoCAD LT 2000 increases overall performance, productivity and intuitiveness by allowing customers to open and work in several drawings simultaneously. For example, customers can easily copy properties with a click of the mouse to standardize drawings, eliminating numerous time-consuming steps.
"Recognizing that design is a competitive advantage for businesses, we've enhanced AutoCAD LT 2000 with a smarter design environment and feature set so customers can leverage existing data to significantly improve their
productivity and ultimate project success," said Dominic Gallello, executive vice president of Autodesk's Design Solutions Division.
The new Properties window lets users easily edit drawing attributes in a form-based dialog box without leaving the design. The new multiple layouts feature lets customers consolidate multiple drawing sheets into a single drawing file, increasing DWG file flexibility by providing more information in a single DWG file.
To further increase drawing productivity, the new Autodesk Symbols 2000 package, also announced today, integrates more than 12,000 pieces of industry-standard architectural, mechanical and electronic content into AutoCAD LT 2000 and AutoCAD 2000.
Visual Feedback and Intuitive Interface
AutoCAD LT 2000 software offers a complete software environment for extended design team members to access, reuse, manipulate and supplement original AutoCAD designs and integrate Microsoft Office applications with point-and-click ease. The AutoCAD DesignCenter feature takes the Content Explorer(TM) feature found in previous versions of the software to new heights by allowing users to manage all of the drawing's components, not just blocks. It offers a familiar Microsoft Explorer-like drag-and-drop interface for easy application and reuse of not only blocks, but also layers, linetypes, text styles, dimension styles, layouts and hatch patterns from CAD libraries and existing drawings to greatly enhance user productivity.
Previously supported during plotting alone, the Lineweights feature that customers use to create emphasis now provides visually accurate representations on-screen as well. This enhancement gives users greater drawing control and flexibility, and reduces guesswork and setup time prior to plotting. Polar Tracking replaces the PolarSnap(TM) feature found in previous versions, now allowing users to track to any desired angle versus only preset increments to offer greater precision and efficiency.
Rapid Learning
Autodesk enhanced AutoCAD LT software's award-winning HTML-based online help for this release. It is specifically targeted for AutoCAD LT customers using CAD software for the first time, giving them easy online access to the information they need, and takes experienced AutoCAD LT users to the next level of productivity. Another tool fostering easy learning includes an enhanced, award-winning AutoCAD LT Learning AssistanceO multimedia online tool, helping new and experienced CAD users master fundamental and advanced features at their own pace. Finally, the new Flyout Help feature expands dialog boxes with additional contextual information.
System Requirements
Minimum system requirements include Windows 98, Windows 95 or Windows NT 4.0; Pentium CPU; 32MB RAM; 73MB of free hard disk space; VGA display (800 X 600 recommended); CD-ROM drive and a Windows-compatible mouse.
The Autodesk Design 2000 Initiative
Autodesk's Design 2000 initiative ensures that customers across multiple markets and disciplines can leverage the full power of its software in a simple, intuitive way. Under the Design 2000 initiative, Autodesk is introducing AutoCAD LT 2000 software as part of a new series of products based on the AutoCAD 2000 platform for the architecture, land, GIS and mechanical marketplaces. In addition to AutoCAD LT 2000, these Design 2000 products include AutoCAD 2000, AutoCAD Map(R) 2000, Autodesk(R) CAD Overlay(R) 2000, AutoCAD(R) Land Development Desktop Release 2, Autodesk(R) Civil Design Release 2, Autodesk(R) Survey Release 2, AutoCAD Architectural Desktop(TM) Release 2, Mechanical Desktop(R), AutoCAD(R) Mechanical 2000 and Autodesk Symbols 2000.
Pricing and Availability
The English language version of AutoCAD LT 2000 software is expected to be available this fiscal quarter in the United States and Canada at an estimated street price of US$559. Upgrade versions will be available at an estimated street price of US$199. AutoCAD LT 2000 will be available through preferred software resellers, Authorized Autodesk Resellers or directly from Autodesk. Customers in North America can purchase multiple licenses of AutoCAD LT 2000 at a discount through the Autodesk Open License Program (AOLP). Pricing and availability will vary outside North America -- please contact your local reseller or Autodesk office for details. Additional information for the United States and Canada can be found on the Internet at www.autodesk.com/autocadlt.
French, Italian, German, Spanish and Japanese versions of AutoCAD LT 2000 will be available within 30 to 60 days following the release of the English language version, with other international language versions available at a later date. Prices will vary outside the United States and Canada. Please contact your local office for regional pricing information.
About Autodesk
Autodesk is the world's leading supplier of PC design software and digital content creation tools. One of the largest PC software companies in the world, Autodesk has more than four million customers in over 150 countries. For more information, contact any Authorized Autodesk Reseller, call Autodesk at 800-964-6432, or visit www.autodesk.com. Discreet(TM) product information is available at 800-869-3504 or via the web at www.discreet.com. Autodesk shares are traded on the Nasdaq national market under the symbol ADSK.
The foregoing statements regarding anticipated availability of AutoCAD LT 2000 are forward-looking. Among the factors that could cause actual results to differ are the following: the timely completion of the AutoCAD LT 2000 evaluation period, the timely shipment of AutoCAD LT 2000 and the market acceptance of AutoCAD LT 2000. Further information on potential factors that could affect the financial results of Autodesk are included in the company's Form 10-Q for the first fiscal quarter ended April 30, 1999, which is on file with the Securities and Exchange Commission.
NOTE: Autodesk, the Autodesk logo, AutoCAD, AutoCAD LT, AutoCAD Map, Mechanical Desktop and CAD Overlay are registered trademarks, and AutoCAD Architectural Desktop, DesignCenter, Content Explorer, PolarSnap, AutoCAD LT Learning Assistance and Discreet are trademarks of Autodesk, Inc., in the United States and/or certain other countries. All other brand names, product names or trademarks are used solely for the purpose of identification and belong to their respective holders.
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This is a luscious cheesecake with its light fluffy texture. As Giada says "Amaretti are Italian cookies with a distinct almond flavor". If you can't find them in the specialty foods section of the grocery store use any almond-flavored cookie.
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- 1/4 cup almonds, toasted sliced (or slivered)
- 2 tablespoons sugar
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- 1 3/4 cups sugar
- 3 tablespoons all-purpose flour
- 1/4 teaspoon salt
- 18 ounces cream cheese, softened
- 6 eggs, separated
- 1 (16 ounce) container sour cream
- 1 1/4 teaspoons almond extract
- 1 teaspoon vanilla
- 1/2 cup sliced almonds
- 1Heat oven to 325°F Wrap foil around outside of 9 1/2- or 10-inch springform pan to prevent leaks while baking.
- 2In food processor, combine toasted almonds and 2 tablespoons sugar; pulse until finely chopped. Add amaretti crumbs and melted butter; pulse to mix. Press crumb mixture evenly over bottom of pan. Set aside.
- 3In medium bowl, combine 1 1/2 cups of the sugar, flour and salt; set aside. In large bowl, beat cream cheese on medium speed until smooth and creamy. Add sugar mixture; beat until smooth.
- 4In medium bowl, lightly whisk egg yolks. Add egg yolks, sour cream, almond extract and vanilla to cream cheese mixture. Beat on medium-low speed just until well blended and smooth, scraping down bowl occasionally.
- 5In large bowl, beat egg whites until foamy. Slowly add remaining 1/4 cup sugar, beating until soft peaks form. Gently fold whites into cream cheese mixture; pour into springform pan.
- 6Place springform pan in large, shallow roasting pan or broiler pan. Fill with enough hot water to come halfway up sides of springform pan.
- 7Bake 1 hour and 5 minutes or until edges are puffed and top looks dull and is dry to the touch. Center should be less set than edges and will move when pan is tapped. It should not ripple as if liquid. Turn oven off; leave cheesecake in oven with door closed 30 minutes.
- 8Remove from oven. Let stand in water bath 1 hour. Remove from water bath; cool completely on wire rack. Refrigerate at least 4 hours; cover and store in refrigerator up to 3 days.**.
- 9Just before serving, press almonds around side of cake.
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Serving Size: 1 (156 g)
Servings Per Recipe: 12
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- % Daily Value
- Calories 456.8
- Calories from Fat 279
- 61%
- Total Fat 31.0 g
- 47%
- Saturated Fat 16.8 g
- 84%
- Cholesterol 175.1 mg
- 58%
- Sodium 240.6 mg
- 10%
- Total Carbohydrate 37.1 g
- 12%
- Dietary Fiber 0.8 g
- 3%
- Sugars 32.0 g
- 128%
- Protein 9.2 g
- 18%
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Max Holland: Woodward Obama story "only the latest in a long list of [Woodward's] prevarications"
tags: Washington Post, Bob Woodward, WatergateThe week's developments include a pope emeritus for the first time in six centuries, federal budget cuts seemingly designed by Sweeney Todd, and the visit by one of the NBA's all-time rebounders (Dennis Rodman) to the son of one of the world's greatest sportsmen (that would be North Korean dictator Kim Jung Un, whose late father claimed to have shot five holes-in-one on his very first golf outing).
And yet somehow, legendary Washington Post reporter Bob Woodward thrust himself at the center of the news with his claim that he had been menaced by an unnamed White House official. That's serious stuff. Woodward has been getting under the skins of presidential administrations for four decades now....
One close Woodward observer has little tolerance for this latest episode.
"Woodward was caught out in a lie when he represented Sperling's admonition as a threat," said Max Holland, author of Leak: Why Mark Felt Became Deep Throat.
"But that misrepresentation is only the latest in a long list of prevarications that go all the way back to Watergate and the fabled Deep Throat. No other journalist would be allowed to get away with this kind of serial behavior."
It's a self-inflicted wound. A great reporter Woodward may well still be. But his behavior has called into question his standing as a reliable narrator.
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My Facebook friend, Lori Palermo who is the blog author at Love Your Lungs, Breathe for Life is trying to spread COPD awareness by requesting the gold awareness ribbon be put on US postage stamps. I think it's a great idea and have signed the petition.
In an effort to help this cause, I am posting this for those that have not yet seen the petition. Check it out and come on board by signing the petition and help spread the word so we can get the much needed awareness for COPD. You can read the details and sign the petition by clicking: Spread COPD Awareness via US Postage Stamp Thanks for stopping by! MO |
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