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This one is a real beauty! The deep, richly colored variegated foliage makes a delicious backdrop for the vibrant orange blooms. It has become my new favorite variegated canna, although the 'Pretoria' (or 'Bengal Tiger') is a very close second.
Closeup of the foliage:
Here is a link that might be useful: Canna Tropicana website
Follow-Up Postings:
- Posted by tropicalzone7 7 (My Page) on Sun, May 24, 09 at 5:58
Its one of my favorites too. Even when its not in bloom its great to look at, and you get blooms on it until first frost. One of the best, most reliable bloomers, but they need lots of sun and water for best growth. |
- Posted by struwwelpeter 5 (My Page) on Sun, May 24, 09 at 13:39
You should get Pink Sunburst. |
- Posted by green_thumb_guy Z5 Ont (My Page) on Mon, May 25, 09 at 7:04
I have this canna also. It definitely is a fav. I went to a nursery to pick mine up and paid a high price; which I'm not com,plaining about. I see them for sale in lots of big box garden centres and seasonal garden centres. What I am unhappy about is that they are all virused severly. They have the Tropicanna company tag on them so I'm wondering why they are selling virused cannas. I tooka few pics on my phone and once I get them onto my computer, I'm going to contact the company and see if they are aware of the problem. I haven't seen any healthy ones other than at the high end nursery. They have someone privately growing Tropicanna for them. I also have Pink Sunburst and love the foliage. Not sure if the bloom is as nice as Tropicanna. Haven't seen Black Tropicanna here. |
- Posted by dragonfly_wings (My Page) on Mon, May 25, 09 at 16:52
struwwelpeter. Nice foliage on the Pink Sunburst. In fact very similar to the Tropicana. However I just have a preference for the orange blooms. I have a red/orange/yellow color scheme in my garden with the occasional purple for contrast. greenthumbguy, Let us know what the Tropicana folks say about the virused canna. |
- Posted by struwwelpeter 5 (My Page) on Mon, May 25, 09 at 17:28
Have Durban? Here are all three in one bed: |
- Posted by dragonfly_wings (My Page) on Tue, May 26, 09 at 2:42
Wow! Very nice! Thanks for introducing me to the Durbin. To tell you the truth, I can't tell which is which in your photo they are all so similar. What is the primary difference between the Durbin and Tropicana? |
- Posted by struwwelpeter 5 (My Page) on Tue, May 26, 09 at 15:56
The Durbans are the ones with red flowers in back. They are slightly less variegated than Tropicanna, but still hard to tell apart from foliage alone. In England, the names "Durban" and "Phason" are exchanged. |
- Posted by green_thumb_guy Z5 Ont (My Page) on Wed, May 27, 09 at 7:03
I just want to jump in that bed and roll around. Simply beautiful. I haven't seen Durban - at least I don't think so. Great job! |
- Posted by green_thumb_guy Z5 Ont (My Page) on Thu, Jun 4, 09 at 6:59
I tried e-mailing the person at the link at the top of this thread. Didn't receive a reply and then I noticed that it is not the official Tropicanna website. So, I contacted the company with the rights to Tropicanna. Received a quick response. Thanks for your email And I've copied Cary Van Zanten on this email an his Company, Pan American Nursery is the major distributor in Canada for Tropicanna. I will agree that some of this old stock should have been dumped—our growers here in the US did just that. We have clean stock now, ex Israel that is performing wonderfully. The virus in cannas is a whole genus problem, not just a problem on Tropicanna We've spent a ton of money cleaning up the stocks of Tropicanna, Tropicanna Gold and Tropicanna Black so I don't believe you'll see this issue in the future as Pan American is working only with this clean stock now Anthony Tesselaar USA, inc. I certainly hope they are right. I think it's great that the company is trying to correct the problem. As for other canna varieties, since no owns the rights, it seems no one is going to take ownership of the problem. Hopefully, there is lots going on behind the scenes with the major growers to grow healthy stock. Just wanted to share this with you all. |
- Posted by struwwelpeter 5 (My Page) on Fri, Jun 5, 09 at 19:09
Did they rename "Pretoria" to "Tropicanna Gold?" If so, how dare they? Pretoria is in the public domain. There must be a law against this. |
- Posted by canna2grow z7 AR (My Page) on Fri, Jun 5, 09 at 22:45
Before the 'Pretoria' vs. 'Tropicanna Gold' issue gets started in regard to their obvious similarity; please take the time to closely examine the "color" of the calyx or sepal (the leaf like covering holding the bloom). On 'Pretoria' ('Bengal Tiger') this entire covering is colored red with a glaucous coating. This characteristic is identical to the color of the calyx of 'Tropicanna' and 'Durban'. 'Tropicanna Gold' is quite different as its calyx is green with a glaucous coating. Look closely at the excellent photos posted above and compare to a true photo of 'Pretoria'. The difference is quite obvious if you know what to look for. The cultivar 'Tropicanna Gold' is separate and distinct from 'Pretoria'. The bloom color is also somewhat different as 'Pretoria' is basically orange (like 'Tropicanna') while 'Tropicanna Gold' has a bit of pale yellow blotching in its bloom. Hope this is helpful. Regards, Kent |
- Posted by struwwelpeter 5 (My Page) on Sat, Jun 6, 09 at 11:09
Canna2Grow, Since gardeners rarely care about barely noticeable differences in coloration, what are the advantages of Tropicanna Gold over Pretoria to a gardener? Is it a more vigorous grower or larger (which would be surprising because Pretoria is more vigorous and larger than Tropicanna)? Does it produce seed (like Sunburst and unlike Pretoria)? Is it cold hardy in zone 5 (unlike any of other variegated canna)? |
- Posted by canna2grow z7 AR (My Page) on Sat, Jun 6, 09 at 20:05
Stuwwelpeter, If one is only interested in growing a canna cultivar such as 'Pretoria' for the foliage effect, there is little advantage to spending time or money to acquire one or the other. They are both vigorous growers, seed sterile and both winter-store much the same. I would like to think that most gardeners not only grow plants for an effect but they receive enjoyment from learning about the plants they grow, improve their growing skills and acquire more knowledge from growing their plants. Growing similar plants for comparison is one way of teaching oneself and forming one's own opinion of different plants in their personal growing situation. Forums such as this allow us to exchange information, give and receive opinions but until we trial that information for ourselves we may never really know! Regards, |
- Posted by struwwelpeter 5 (My Page) on Sun, Jun 7, 09 at 14:08
"They are both vigorous growers, seed sterile and both winter-store much the same. I would like to think that most gardeners not only grow plants for an effect but they receive enjoyment from learning about the plants they grow, improve their growing skills and acquire more knowledge from growing their plants." Have you seen Pretoria produce seed? Or, does "seed sterile" have an obscure definition of which I am not aware? I have grown Pretoria for over 20 years and have never seen it produce a single seed, sterile or not. |
- Posted by canna2grow z7 AR (My Page) on Sun, Jun 7, 09 at 21:34
Your "seed sterile" question is fair but requires I give you my experience growing Pretoria. I am curious to know your source of Pretoria dating back over 20 years ago. To the best of my knowledge, in North America there was only one source for C. 'Pretoria'. This of course discounts anyone buying from that source and providing someone offspring. Because the cost at that time was extremely high the limited production went to collectors or botanical gardens. 'Pretoria' did not become somewhat available to the general public until the latter 90's. That's where I came into the picture. In 1993 I purchased 2000 rhizomes from this source and proceeded to begin commercial production. By the end of the 1990's I was producing somewhere between 100 and 200 thousand saleable rhizomes at a cost the typical gardener could hopefully afford. I only make this statement to show that I have likely observed more 'Pretoria' than almost anyone in North America. Of the thousands and thousands of Pretoria plants observed, I have only seen three mature seed pods that contained "one" seed. Of course, when one has a few acres of one cultivar it is very likely there may have been others not seen. We were unsuccessful in germinating this seed. I am aware of only one or two other breeders claiming to see seed produced. A few breeders have attempted to use pollen from Pretoria in their pollination efforts. Most have concluded it had very, very low viability, but can on rare occasions produce fertilization. I am not necessarily convinced of this. I know of no one who has successfully grown seed form Pretoria. This above information explains my use of "seed sterile" but does not totally rule out the possibility of the pollen having limited viability. By the way, was the above photo of 'Pretoria', 'Pink Sunburst' and 'Durban' taken recently and what was your source for 'Durban'? Regards, Kent |
- Posted by struwwelpeter 5 (My Page) on Mon, Jun 8, 09 at 12:51
1. There are no Pretoria in my photo. 2. The variegated leaves of these cannas resemble those of certain heliconia cultivars introduced from the South Sea Islands around 1880. Pretoria resembles Heliconia Striata. Tropicanna resembles Heliconia Rubricaulis. See picture below. Stuttgart resembles Heliconia Bangkok. 3. My memory is hazy with regard to the exact time and source, but I suspect that I got Pretoria from a heliconia collector or seller in Florida. 4. I strongly suspect that such variegations are caused by the plants being chimeras which, if true, implies that the leaf variegation can not be inherited by seed progeny nor can the plants be cloned from a single cell. Heliconia Rubricaulis: |
- Posted by struwwelpeter 5 (My Page) on Mon, Jun 8, 09 at 17:02
I looked through my old catalogs and found it offered as "CANNA GENERALIS STRIATUS Variegated Canna with orange flowers ... $10.00" in the 1991 summer price list of The Bromeliad Tree which is probably where I got it. (Okay, I have been growing it for only 18 years.) |
- Posted by struwwelpeter 5 (My Page) on Mon, Jun 8, 09 at 17:33
"By the way, was the above photo of 'Pretoria', 'Pink Sunburst' and 'Durban' taken recently and what was your source for 'Durban'? " Pink Sunburst - Stokes Tropicals Durban - I remember getting two rhizomes from two different sources at the same time. One was in trade for Pink Sunburst from somebody in this forum, maybe, 7 years ago and I bought the other from somewhere I don't remember. I do remember that the Glasshouse Works offered it for $50 in 2000, but there is no way I would ever pay $50. Incidentally, Glasshouse Works offered another variegated canna, Canna Generalis Munchkin for $50. |
- Posted by canna2grow z7 AR (My Page) on Mon, Jun 8, 09 at 21:59
Thanks for your follow ups. My reference to the photo of Pretoria was my bad. You may already know the following but for the sake of others I might mention that C. 'Pretoria' was originally offered in the states by Herb Kelly of Kelly's Plant World in California. He received his original start from a plant collector while on a trip to South Africa. The same can be said for C. 'Durban'. I will point out that Glasshouse Works began offering C. 'Bengal Tiger' which they imported from India. As most now know both cultivars are one and the same. The actual origin of this cultivar is likely India (for the present time). You mentioned C. 'Munchkin' sold by Glasshouse Works. I believe this is the same cultivar that Dr. James Waddick discovered growing in a Kansas City nursery. It was briefly sold as C. 'Kansas City'. If I have the whole story straight the valid name for this cultivar would be C. 'Kansas City'. Your C. 'Pink Sunburst' likely came from stock I supplied to Glenn at Stokes' Tropicals. My stock came from Plant Delight Nursery who acquired it from South Africa. Your comparison of heliconia to some cannas is dead on. I know very little about them, but while visiting nurseries and retail garden centers, I have had to do a double take upon first glimpse of them in containers. They do have beautiful foliage that might easily be confused with cannas. Somewhere along the line, I think we have gotten away from the original thread, but the information has been useful. Kent Kelly |
- Posted by struwwelpeter 5 (My Page) on Tue, Jun 9, 09 at 11:16
"Your comparison of heliconia to some cannas is dead on." To correct a mistake, I should have said that Canna Pretoria resembles "Heliconia Aureo Striata." Both canna and heliconia are in the banana family, but, to my knowledge, there are no banana plants with striped variegation of this kind. I was trying to make a point that, in both canna and heliconia, there is substantial but inconclusive evidence that variegations with these appearances are caused by chimerism. A large commercial grower should do DNA testing for chimerism before attempting sexual reproduction or single cell cloning of such variegated canna. Personally, I would like to have psychological closure on the matter of chimerism in canna and heliconia. So, what do you know about chimerism in these canna? |
- Posted by canna2grow z7 AR (My Page) on Tue, Jun 9, 09 at 14:59
As I stated earlier, I know very little about Heliconia, but I do have information on cannas. Some excellent information was published back in the late 1960's by Dr. Ivan Mukherjee and Dr. T. N. Khoshoo of the National Botanic Gardens, Lucknow, India. Dr. Khoshoo published several articles including "Evolution of Garden Cannas" and "Genetic Evolutionary Studies—IV: Parallelism Between Natural and Induced Somatic Mutation" as well as others. In some of these publications, he dealt with the chimera issue in canna to a degree. As you know, not all cannas (or plants) with stripes are chimers. (One can "goggle" this word and find an adequate description) A few years back when the canna virus became a serious issue, many of us looked to tissue culture (TC) for a solution. Canna cultivars such as 'Pretoria', 'Tropicanna' and a few others were determined to be chimers. More importantly, they are perceived to be a stable periclinal chimera. Some of our TC labs are now successfully producing healthy chimera plants. I am not an expert in this field and can only report findings of what has been achieved. The Garden Web format is not the best place to have a in-depth discussion on these technical issues, if you care to send me a private mail I will gladly respond. Kent Kelly |
- Posted by struwwelpeter 5 (My Page) on Tue, Jun 9, 09 at 18:21
"Canna cultivars such as 'Pretoria', 'Tropicanna' and a few others were determined to be chimers." Thank you. "The Garden Web format is not the best place to have a in-depth discussion on these technical issues, if you care to send me a private mail I will gladly respond." I prefer to exchange information in public forums where that information is available to anyone interested enough to do a Google search. Would you prefer a UseNet forum? I don't know that not all cannas with chlorophyll-less stripes are chimeras. Can you name one canna with chlorophyll-less stripes that isn't a chimera? |
- Posted by canna2grow z7 AR (My Page) on Tue, Jun 9, 09 at 20:47
C. 'Bangkok', C. 'Bangkok Yellow', C. 'Bankocki', C. 'Bankok', C. 'Christ's Light', C. 'King of Siam', C. 'Minerva', C. 'Nirvana', C. 'Striped Beauty (2)', C. 'Striped Beauty of Bangkok', C. 'Stripped Beauty', C. 'Variegated', C. 'Zebra Stripe': All the above are synonyms for C. 'Trinacria Variegata'. Dr. Khoshoo stated that this was not a chimeral mutation. The earliest reference is C. 'Trinacria Variegata' The earliest reference is C. 'Trinacria Variegata' in Sydney Percy-Lancaster's book, "An Amateur in an Indian Garden", 1927. You may wish to check Claines Canna in the UK. http://www.clainescanna.co.uk/ If you wish to discuss this type of information or simply search topics relative to somewhat more technical information as above I suggest you investigate the canna group on Yahoo Canna Forum: A great deal of recently digitized historic journals is now available off the web, allowing for the older journals to be easily accessed. Kent |
- Posted by struwwelpeter 5 (My Page) on Wed, Jun 10, 09 at 11:41
"C. 'Bangkok', C. 'Bangkok Yellow', C. 'Bankocki', C. 'Bankok', C. 'Christ's Light', C. 'King of Siam', C. 'Minerva', C. 'Nirvana', C. 'Striped Beauty (2)', C. 'Striped Beauty of Bangkok', C. 'Stripped Beauty', C. 'Variegated', C. 'Zebra Stripe':" Thank you. I used to grow it but gave it up because the flowers are very flaccid, likely to fall off, and the plant is not a vigorous grower. I don't recall seeing it produce seeds either. |
- Posted by canna2grow z7 AR (My Page) on Wed, Jun 10, 09 at 18:39
You obviously know a great deal about your cannas. In the US, C. 'Striped Beauty' is the synonym most often used for this cultivar and is classified as an "Italian" type variety. Basically this means that it is a result of flaccida heritage. It is considered to be seed sterile and have low pollen fertility as you have observed. This is typical of many flaccida offspring. The big positive with the use of flaccida crosses was the dramatic improvement in the bloom size. A great many of our present day large flowering hybrids owes their genetics to flaccida. The ploidy level of flaccida, as well as the sterility problems, apparently contributes to the difficulty in making successful crosses. Regards, Kent Kelly |
- Posted by green_thumb_guy Z5 Ont (My Page) on Fri, Jun 12, 09 at 2:43
I appreciate that you both have kept the conversation in the thread. I know nothing of the history or relations. I'm learning lots. Thanks Guys! Currently, I'm in Kentucky and visited the Cinci Zoo. Saw virused Tropicanna in their beds. Saw the most gorgeous Canna Australia - in bloom. Also another canna I don't know. |
- Posted by Lora 5(firstname.lastname@example.com) onMon, Jun 27, 11 at 8:58
After reading all of the above posts on Canna Tropicana I have decided I am going to sound like a complete moron but am going to take a chance anyway with my questions because I need information. I bought my first plant this spring from Home Depot for a large full sun container in zone 5. One shoot grew and flowered. When the flower was dead nubby "pods" formed. A storm broke that stalk with the pods off and we have gotten no flowers since. Could someone please tell me should it flower repeatedly and did I do something wrong that it hasn't? Also, what were the pods and should I have done something with them? Thank you! |
- Posted by mantis__oh z6 OH (My Page) on Mon, Jun 27, 11 at 19:26
There should be new shoots coming. Continue to water and fertilizer. If you got your plant at Home Depot, chances are it is infected with virus, which also diminishes flowering. |
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NEW DELHI - A 200-year-old tradition of firing canons to get Muslims prepared to iftar and suhoor (pre-dawn meal) during the holy fasting month of Ramadan is still prevalent in the Indian city of Raisen.
This is something unique which has been going on in our city for the last many years, Shehr Qazi, head of Zahiruddin city, told OnIslam.net.
The boom from the canon is a signal for the people of more than 35 nearby villages for suhoor and iftar, he said.
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In Ramadan, adult Muslims abstain from food, drink, smoking and sex between dawn and sunset.
The sick and those traveling are exempt from fasting especially if it poses health risks.
During the holy month, Raisen Muslims start fasting after hearing the boom of the canon, which helps residents know that the suhoor time has ended.
In the evening, Muslims break their fast after hearing the second boom of the day from the canon.
When the canon is fired, it is a signal for thousands of people from nearly 40 villages in the Raisen district of Madhya Pradesh to end their suhoor before dawn or to have iftar in the evening.
We are trying our best to preserve our tradition, said Qazi.
The tradition of firing canon during Ramadan started by erstwhile rulers- the begums of Bhopal -in the early 18th century.
Historically, military canons were originally used and the main priest or the Shehr Qazi used to decide everything about the operation and timing.
While the tradition faded away in Bhopal city, the Raisen residents have carried it forward.
From the year 1956 after the transfer of power to the provincial government, it is now the responsibility of the district administration.
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City officials make special arrangements for canon firing during Ramadan, with Muslim residents helping in raising funds for the operation.
Before the sighting of the moon, we have to make arrangement for ammunition, Jamil Khan, the president of the Muslim Tehwar (festival) committee.
For each blast we have to use 500 grams of ammunition. We have to spend Rs 35000(US$700) for ammunition and payment to the person who operate the canon.
We collect the money from the Muslims in the city.
Kishwar Khan, a Muslim resident of Raisen city, has been operating the canon for the last ten years.
This is something I have been doing every year, Khan told OnIslam.net.
Earlier, my father used to do the same work. After he expired, Muslim Tehwar (festival) Committee assigned the work to me. They pay Rs 6000(US$120) for the whole month, he said.
During Ramadan, Muslims dedicate their time during the holy month to become closer to Allah through prayer, self-restraint and good deeds.
The majority of Muslims prefer to pay Zakah for the poor and needy during the month.There are some 140 million Muslims in Hindu-majority India, the world's third-largest Muslim population after those of Indonesia and Pakistan.
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Remember all that ridiculous talk about how CC Sabathia is a bad postseason pitcher? Yeah, I think we can put that garbage to rest, although the big guy could have two more chances in this series alone to give the idiots an0ther chance to pipe up.
That was a vintage late-90′s Yankees pitching performance. And that's fitting, because the main reason this is the first Yankees team to have a legitimate shot to win it all since Roger Clemens left the first time, is that CC is the team's first legitimate ace since Roger left the first time (sorry Moose and Chien-Ming). CC is one of those handful of special pitchers in the game right now, and the Yankees are reaping the benefits of Brian Cashman finally spending all those millions at his disposal wisely when it comes to pitching.
Look, this series is far, far, far from over. The Yankees won Game 1 in both of their previous playoff series against the Angels, and we know how those turned out. But this was a tone-setting performance by CC, who helped the Yankees keep the first controversial A-Rod moment of the postseason from becoming a big story. For the record, I had no issue with A-Rod pressing the issue and forcing the Angels to make a play. After all, it was pretty much the only play they made all night, and even on that one it appeared A-Rod was never tagged.
That said, if the Yankees had lost by a run, you can bet the tabloids and talk radio would have been all over A-Rod for running through the stop sign there, even though he had another productive day at the plate. And we don't need the tide to start turning back against him, so this was an even bigger win than it normally would have been — and that's pretty big. Thanks to CC and Mariano Rivera, the win was rarely in doubt, even if Joe Buck did get a little hop in his step after Mo walked the leadoff man in the ninth.
Best development of the night? The strong game from Johnny Damon, who had two hits, two runs scored and did a nice job in left field. It's pretty clear how valuable he is to the Yankee offense, and hopefully this game helps silence the lunatics out there who wanted to see him benched at some point in this series. Believe me, if you listen to WFAN, you know they were out there.
Now, on to Game 2. We don't know when the game will be played — from the sound of it they'll probably get rained out tomorrow — but when they do play the Yankees need to keep it rolling and pound Joe Saunders, who has no business starting Game 2 with Jered Weaver and Scott Kazmir available. I know Mike Scioscia all of a sudden is being called the best manager in baseball, but the decision to start Saunders — a soft-tosser with an ERA approaching 5.00 — is dripping with hubris. The Angels clearly do not respect the Yankees and believe they can steal a game in New York with a below-average pitcher on the mound. The Yankees cannot let them get away with that move.


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How bad is it? Well, just let me tell you . . .
Just for fun, here is a gleaning of opinions that go under the general headings of "How bad is ...?" and "What now?"
How bad is our national jobless situation? This from Mort Zuckerman of U.S. News and World Report:
"Altogether, the 9 percent headline figure is an illusory portrait of the situation across the country, representing 13,863,000 men and women out of work. What happens if you add to that the 8.4 million 'involuntary' part-time employed, whose hours have been cut back? Then you get a household unemployment rate slightly under 17 percent. ...
"It all adds up to a shocking figure: More than 25 million Americans are now either jobless or underemployed. That's nearly twice as many Americans out of work as there were in the black year of 1933 — 13 million then. (Only in one year before 1940 and the war did unemployment dip below 8 million.) Of course, the labor force was much smaller then, so the unemployment rate was higher. In the Great Depression, between one third and one quarter of the working population didn't have jobs."
So, the jobless rate is not nearly so bad, but we've just got nearly twice as many actual humans in America in a bad way as we did in the darkest depths of the Great Depression.
And how bad is the job market in government? Let's check in with the taxpayers' best friends, unionized government workers, as reported in the Wall Street Journal Feb. 14:
"Government-employee unions maintain considerable influence. About 7.6 million public employees, or 36.2 percent of all public-sector workers, belonged to unions in 2010, down slightly from the year before. In the private sector, the unionization rate slipped to 6.9 percent.
"In the 2010 midterm elections, public-sector unions contributed $20.5 million to federal candidates, parties and outside groups, up from $19.1 million in the 2008 election cycle, according to the Center for Responsive Politics. The share of contributions to Democrats rose to 92 percent in 2010 from 89 percent in 2008."
Gosh, do you suppose we can expect any help from Democrats in lowering government wage and benefit costs?
How bad is our situation in the volatile Middle East? This from Newsweek's Niall Ferguson:
"The result has been a foreign-policy debacle. The president has alienated everybody: not only Mubarak's cronies in the military, but also the youthful crowds in the streets of Cairo. Whoever ultimately wins, Obama loses. And the alienation doesn't end there.
"America's two closest friends in the region — Israel and Saudi Arabia — are both disgusted. The Saudis, who dread all manifestations of revolution, are appalled at Washington's failure to resolutely prop up Mubarak. The Israelis, meanwhile, are dismayed by the administration's apparent cluelessness. ...
"The defining characteristic of Obama's foreign policy has been not just a failure to prioritize, but also a failure to recognize the need to do so. A succession of speeches saying, in essence, 'I am not George W. Bush' is no substitute for a strategy."
Commentator Mark Steyn of SteynOnline says this:
"Amidst all this flowering of democracy, you'll notice that it's only the pro-American dictatorships on the ropes: In Libya and Syria, Gaddafy and Assad sleep soundly in their beds.
"On the other hand, if you were either of the two King Abdullahs, in Jordan or Saudi Arabia, and you looked at the Obama Administration's very public abandonment of their Cairo strongman, what would you conclude about the value of being an American ally?
"For the last three weeks, the superpower has sent the consistent message to the world that (as Bernard Lewis feared some years ago) America is harmless as an enemy and treacherous as a friend."
And so what of our political future in the U.S.?
Says Salena Zito in Real Clear Politics about "Our New Jeffersonian Era":
"Apropos of our democracy, Alexander Hamilton's and Thomas Jefferson's statues stand miles apart here.
"America always has been at odds with these two Founders' philosophies of where the nation's exceptionalism would be found.
"Today we are in the midst of a cultural U-turn away from a Hamiltonian meritocratic-elitist, centralized-power society to a more Jeffersonian Main Street focus, with state and local governments as the primary powerbrokers. ...
"The Democratic Party has cast itself as the progressive party, leaving little or no room for conservative Democrats. It appears to be out of sync with where the country is heading, despite Main Street's message last fall.
"Over the 234 years of our nation's Jefferson-or-Hamilton debate, we never really compromised on either man's vision. We zigzag, progressing slowly along the way, adopting a small part of their values in each new era.
"Republicans were elected in November not because Americans love Republicans; they were elected because their values are in line with this new Jeffersonian era."
Do you feel better now?
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Those that want union representation vote for it.
Those that don't want union representation don't vote.
Go figure.
Commentator Mark Steyn of SteynOnline says this:
"Amidst all this flowering of democracy, you'll notice that it's only the pro-American dictatorships on the ropes: In Libya and Syria, Gaddafy and Assad sleep soundly in their beds.
Here's a nice hot virtual towel to wipe the egg off your face, Cal.
Let's hope this little episode has taught you an important lesson: Them that lives by the fringe wingnut quote dies by the fringe wingnut quote.
Saying that only pro-American dictatorships are being overthrown is very much like saying that the pilot's unions' are the only union on the side of the Wisconsin Governor!
Money always speaks loudest!
Libya has oil! Syria threatens Israel.
Egypt controls the Suez.
Iran has oil, threatens Iraq, threatens Israel, and is a Muslim state government.
Our Fifth Fleet (16,000 ships and sailors) is threatened in Bahrain.
If that Fleet had to move it would be worse than losing Israel as an ally.
Americans aren't blamed always (except Libya) for being at fault.
Unless we want to be at war forever, we will make secret plans to abandon the middle east. We need to be more in the far east.
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Hudson schools closed when teachers don't show up
The Hudson School District notified parents late Thursday night that there would be no school on Friday, Feb. 18
Similar action has been taken by other districts in the state. More than 25,000 people, many of them teachers, have gathered at the State Capital in Madison to protest Gov. Scott Walker's budget bill that, would among other things, eliminate collective bargaining by public employees.
The teacher make-up day will be Friday, April 22nd. There will be no school age care on Friday, February 18th. The district apologized for any inconvenience to families
What a bunch of sad losers up there. Union goons, mobsters, wannabe gangsters and all the followers. Wow dont those government workers have a brain of their own. What part of we are broke dont they get. Typical american union followers only want for themselves. ME ME ME, screw the rest of you tax payers. The time has come to get rid of the unions once and for all. They have caused all the businesses worth a crap in this country to go over seas. They will not return. Thankyou unions for destroying the USA. Delta voted NO UNIONS in 9 different areas. Now the dog squeeze unionites are trying with Obamas help to change the rules again for another vote. They pay the Pres millions a year so he will kiss there butts and allow it. We arent but a hair from looking like greece and egypt. And wisconsin is pretty embarrassing. 2012 will be a financial disaster for most states. Prepare yourselves.
Thats all time to go on vacation, winter break and we are not going to school.
Hey normal, when is a contract not a contract?
Can one side arbitrarily change the terms of the contract at their whim?
Try telling your mortgage company you're arbitrarily changing your interest rate to 1%...and let us know what happens.
The new Governor of Wisconsin inherited a balanced budget when he took office. He immediately and unilaterally instituted government giveaways to his political supporters, to the tune of $140 million dollars.
Now he wants to recoup this $140 million by union-busting his state employees.
Seems a bit unfair to me.
The Wisconsin governor is doing exactly what he promised during his campaign, balance the budget. It all comes down to the ME generation. You know the old saying not in my back yard. Everyone I talk to wants to cut and save. But when it comes from their pocket its a bit different. Americans dont care if their neighbor takes a hit but when it effects them, no way hosea. The bottom line here is I hate unions. They served their purpose in the 50s, then they went on to destroy the american economy and drove all manufacturing out of this country. Their time has come to go away and die. All good things come to an end. Everyone, and I mean everyone needs to cut and suffer in the new age of American bankruptcy.
Gutless, spinless, cowardly libs afraid of facing unions
As ever-growing throngs of protesters filled the Capitol for a third day, the 14 Democrats disappeared around noon, just as the Senate was about to begin debating the measure, which would end a half-century of collective bargaining rights for most public employees.
What a bunch of gutless, spinless, weenies these liberal democrats are!!
Wisconsin Democrats could stay away for weeks
Democrats on the run in Wisconsin avoided state troopers Friday and threatened to stay in hiding for weeks, potentially paralyzing a state government they no longer control.
Typical spineless liberals- They lose control of the state and if they don't get their way, they go into hiding. How typical of most liberals.
They are all a bunch of spineless weenies.
It's time to reign in the bloated salaries of these pathetic excuses for "teachers". It's also past time to cut the pensions of the retirees in half. None of them deserve $100K a year.
Now why aren't you being clear and honest about what the Wisconsin Teachers strike is about?
They have agree to a salary cut and to pay more for their benefits.
What they have not agreed to is the dissolution of their union forever! Which Republicans hate! (Unions)
Don't worry---it is all a ploy, the final settlement will be:
Union stays, cuts are made!
This was brought about just to show the voters that democrats are trying to save the teacher's union! Thereby raising taxes?
Sickening plans!
You are the one obfuscating the issue.
Meanwhile, while the Democrat cowards remain in hiding,Protests Fail to Sway Wisconsin Governor
"Gov. Walker has repeatedly said that we won't negotiate the budget," Cullen Werwie, a spokesman for Mr. Walker, said. The Democrats "should stop shirking their responsibilities" and "come back to Wisconsin to do their job."
This is just the beginning of the fall of the spineless, cowardly, Democrats.
Take a look at how liberals act when they are on the losing side of an argument....
Mr. Leroy Newt Gingrich tried shutting down the government once. I think he actually did.
It cost him his seat in congress and the Speakership!
He is now wanting the publicity of running again, knowing he doesn't have a chance to win, Good publicity for his terrible book sales and his Lobbyists, though.
The governor of Wisconsin will not and doesn't want to destroy the teacher's union and he won't.
That is also just publicity.
There will be a rally at the Georga State Capitol Building on Wednesday, February 23 at 4:00 P.M. in support of the Wisconsin citizens protesting the actions of the Wisconsin Governor and Republicans to abolish the collective bagaining rights of public employees in that state.
The rally is planned by the SEIU (Service Employees International Union) but eveyone who supports the Wisconsin public workers is urged to join in.
See you there.
Go Wisconsin!!
The natural outcome of SEIU intentions.
Trains, Planes, and Automobiles
Schools too!
Rely on government services and get what you pay for.....nothing but trouble.
We don't need you or any union importing problems of some other state into GA. If you want to support Wisconsin Union sympathies,then saddle up and go on up there!
I think the Pinkertons ought to invade Madison with clubs and guns and a judge's eviction in their pockets!
Just like happened in Matewan, WV to club the miner's into submission, only to have it backfire later with the strongest union in the world until the coal need ran out in the 50s and machines took the miner's places.
Incorrect actions make for terrible results usually.
Unions were needed then, not so much now with a democrat who protects the common man in office. Even Industrial operators get away with less mistreatment and poisoning of people under democrats.
Except for peanut butter and hamburger. (not to mention fat, sugar, calories, alcohol, and sex toys.)
Wisconsin is too cold this time of year so I will protest here in Georgia.
We do not need to import Wisconsin's problems into Georgia. They are already here. An anti-teacher, anti-union, anti-public worker attitude is pretty common among political leaders here in Georgia.
Unions have the highest negative poll numbers in union history and teacher unions the same. Even Dems are now realizing the public worker syndrome of jobs for life and grossly inflated pension plans is bankrupting states. It's hardly confined to GA and not only confined to Repub voters either. The voters who showed up in 2010 sent that message really loud and clear and you cand expect Governors and their political parties to take heed and follow Christie's and Walker's example and then some.
What Wisconsin has wrong is that the proposed reforms exempt public safety employees from any modifications or cuts. I don't think some of the other states are going to be that generous.
It seems DELTA gets out the vote for workers, not Pilots!
"Congress shall make no law ..abridging ..the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances."
DARN that pesky First Amendment!
Doesn't apply in Wisconsin Bacon, only if it had to do with cheese and beer riots.
Just like in GA where the law doesn't apply to illegals who put on roofs, mow yards, and pick beans and watermelons--except for the wintertime!
Anyway it says to peaceably assemble! They aren't peaceable (noisy) and they don't assemble (gather). Big difference.
Ever notice the Pilots or drink servers assemble and march? They have signs but little noise and they gather, not assemble. They also make a lot more money than Master's degree teachers. Pay more taxes, usually.
Cops should not be allowed to assemble with side arms!
It is a crying shame I live in another State.
I notice Sarah is against unions, but Alaska gets most of their income, people and government, from oil royalty---Doesn't those oil workers have some sort of union! Her husband is union, I'll bet.
Most of the conservative TV people on fox belong to unions!!!! Bet you didn't know that!
Ronnie Reagan ran a union for many years, but switched to GE contractor for more money.
Whose Ox is being gored??????
The national website for the Tea Party Action Network is asking all their Tea Party members to infiltrate pro-union rallies nationwide, grab a union t-shirt, then act like a goon in front of television cameras, yelling things like "screw the taxpayer"!
They don't even care that the American public knows what they're planning to do ahead of time, they just want those visuals being broadcast to the public.
Hitler had his Brownshirts, Walker has his Tea Party.
In fact I agree with the one guy at the very bottom of the page that said this. Use SEIU tactics against them. I didn't see you posting against liberal groups that posted the exact same thing when the teaparty was holding rally's. Seems your "situational outrage" only goes so far.
But the real issue here is your supposed 1st Amendment support.
For someone who posted about the 1st amendment being abridged you sure don't mind having it abridged for people who don't agree with you.
Here is the reality of the "peaceful" liberal.
In fact I agree with the one guy at the very bottom of the page that said this. Use SEIU tactics against them. I didn't see you posting against liberal groups that posted the exact same thing when the teaparty was holding rally's. Seems your "situational outrage" only goes so far.
I'm not surprised that YOU agree. The "code of the third grade playground" (i.e. "Two Wrongs Make a Right" and "But Mom! The other guy did it TOO!") has long been one of the core tenets of your immature political philosophy. (Along with a near-pathological hatred of non-whites and non-Christians, coupled with a sad need to get the last word in, but I digress)
But the real issue here is your supposed 1st Amendment support. For someone who posted about the 1st amendment being abridged you sure don't mind having it abridged for people who don't agree with you.
Ask yourself why these bwave tea party supporters seem to lack the courage to stand up for their own convictions and support what they believe in? Instead they want to skulk about and pretend to be something they're not (union supporters). On second thought, however, one could make a pretty compelling argument that the vast majority of the Tea Party Brownshirts are continually "Pretending to be something they're not"
Here is the reality of the "peaceful" liberal.
Here's what make me a better person than you: I've identified an entire ORGANIZATION attempting to subvert another organization, and you respond with anecdotal evidence from a few deranged individuals.
ah yes, if only is was like it was in the good old days, and Pinkerton thugs could be dispatched in these trying circumstances to beat the snot out of that contemptable kindergarden teacher.
Let me make amends here by giving my reasons for my response to Lion. I am in total disagreement over the Teachers Unions going on an illegal strike period.
Now here is why.
First the November elections actually meant something in Wisconsin. You see the politicians that were recently elected are actually trying to do what the voters want them to do. Wisconsin is over $3 billion in debt. A large part of that debt is pensions from the public sector. Changes have to be made. Union members just like everyone else have to step up and take the hits just like the rest of us.
If the States do not get a handle on their debt then insolvency is their future and we the taxpayer will end up funding the pensions just like we did with GM.
except for the debt numbers, but that is another matter. I would be OK with a law that says public employees can not go out strike over anything except working conditions. I am totally against taking away or compromising anyone's right to collective bargining.
was that under the new agreement government employees could still bargain on SALARY but not on benefits and pensions. The problem is many states are now going broke. In the past holding jobs as ransom for large pensions/benefits was common. -GP
only modified to meet the private sector.
They will still be able to use it for pay but benefits and pensions will be locked out. This gives the State the needed ability to control cost. One of the biggest drains on a State and GM btw was and is the pensions. Some of which actually receive more then the actual pay received when they were working.
Granted the deal was accepted by previous Governors but this one was elected to end it.
These Unions are doing more to be broken up by their refusal to share the burden and striking then anything the Governor is doing.
"These Unions are doing more to be broken up by their refusal to share the burden..." Bunk. You know the unions have agreed to reduced pay, increases in paying for health benefits, and adjustment of the retirement benefits.
The money issues are agreed to. The controversy is the demand that the union give up its collective bargaining rights concerning benefits.
This is just the latest attempt at union busting.
Maybe it will awaken the Democrats out of their stupor.
"Under Walker's plan, state employees' share of pension and health care costs would go up by an average of 8 percent.
Unions still could represent workers, but could not seek pay increases above those pegged to the Consumer Price Index unless approved by a public referendum. Unions also could not force employees to pay dues and would have to hold annual votes to stay organized.
In exchange for bearing more costs and losing bargaining leverage, public employees were promised no furloughs or layoffs. Walker has threatened to order layoffs of up to 6,000 state workers if the measure does not pass."
Those poor over worked, under paid, no wait that's not right I think it is under worked and over paid teachers just wanting to make sure that they, I mean everyone get's what's theirs.
Those poor over worked, under paid, no wait that's not right I think it is under worked and over paid teachers just wanting to make sure that they, I mean everyone get's what's theirs.
Sounds like someone's got a distinct case of wealth envy.
that these Union members have received more then then deserve.
btw-have you noticed the teacher score for Wisconsin. Not to good. Just about Georgia level.
So if a worker is sub-par then logic dictates you either re-train or remove that worker.
Oh wait the union won't allow either.
I admit you have trouble with distinguishing between fact and fiction. Period.
I said nothing about teachers receiving more than they deserve, that was you putting words in my mouth. Again.
Not sure what you are DERPing about with regard to "teacher score for Wisconsin" but have you seen the Wisconsin SAT averages vs. Georgia SAT averages?
This deal reminds me of something, remember PATCO? I hired several while they were out on strike. Striking was a huge mistake in that instance, this one may end badly for the unions as well. One thing is for sure, the whole nation is getting to see the thug tactics these guys use. -GP
is calling for them to go back to work. They don't realize the radicalized portion of the Unions led by Sterns and Trumka that want a Globalized "Workers party" actually run these people now.
They have the DNC and Obama's "Organizing for America" involved and calling for more unrest, not just in Wisconsin, but everywhere. With the Middle East starting to go up in flames it's time for them to create the issue for change here.
They are fomenting Chaos so they can start the engine on the framework they built.
Have you ever noticed that every single item in the U.S. budget that the republicans want to cut to balance the budget are items used a lot by democratic voters?
As an Independent voter I can easily find cuts that could be made on both sides of the politics of the matter.
1. Stop the robbery of the Social Security and Medicare funds by the health industry. (office visits every 3 months, ever six months, etc.; $3000 dollar lab test every 3-6 months with no complaints, etc.; 3-4 specialists for repeated visits until death, etc.)
2. Add up what pharmaceuticals cost per year now and tax the hell out of those robbing devils. Talk about too many employees and benefits!
They are allowed now to charge off all research---even what is not research.
3. Cut welfare allowances to necessities and not allow purchases of whatever one might want (very few restrictions now). Issue that food at special stores run by contractors, plenty to eat but little steak, gourmet foods, deli meats, ice cream, etc.
4. Check DNA of unsupported children against an accused father's DNA (in private of course) even if several have to be checked. Require support, or assigned work, of the Father.
5. Remember what President Eisenhower said upon leaving office: be careful of the military industrial complex. Really do that. Then Senators and congresspeople couldn't vote for an un-needed second F-35 fighter engine by a company in their state!
6. There are currently scores of expenditures for such as ear-marks, foreign aid, etc., which amount to 1-2% of the budget.
Cut the budget where the bucks are and stop vote-getting with trivial cuts. (republicans much worse about this than democrats.)
7. Ever hear of zero budgeting even for Social Security, Medicare, Defense? Leaving what is needed only for every detail!
8. We must get away from doing things only to get re-elected.
Deep cuts are not going to happen in Social Security, etc., anyway, and just a little everywhere that is unjustified, would delay disaster.
Oh, and let us be extra careful just whom we elect and then re-elect who
aren't qualified or aren't very smart.
The bill wouldn't cut anyone's salaries, you moron. It would merely prevent them from using collective bargaining to rape and pillage the taxpayer any further.
Apparently you answered the wrong comment!
Are you talking about Wisconsin Teachers?
Yes they did propose unpaid furlough days, pay more out of their checks for benefits, etc.
Teachers there make much more than in Georgia--they really do teach there.
Teachers, and Pilots and public safety should have no "unions."
Interesting how Obama states "We hear your voices" to the Egyptian Revolutionaries, but when the Tea Party spoke out, did he listen? Of course not, he had them investigated. Hence, the November shellacking.
We could be following the advice of those you quote in your article.
Why should anyone care that Niall Ferguson thinks Egypt is Obama's foreign policy debacle? The right has always feared democracy movements. It would be nice if the critics had an alternative to offer but, of course, they don't. What exactly would they have done differently; invaded Egypt to help prop up Mubarak? The Egyptian Army supported the revolution. Perhaps they think the US position in the Middle East would have been enhanced if we had encouraged Mubarak to attack the protesters.
Mark Steyn's analysis is even more ludicrous. "Amidst all this flowering of democracy, you'll notice that it's only the pro-American dictatorships on the ropes: In Libya and Syria, Gaddafy and Assad sleep soundly in their beds. Perhaps he missed the headlines in the newspapers reporting: "Libya's regime must now fear its people's anger", "Deaths Reported in Anti-Ghadafi Clashes", and "Libya's antigovernment protests escalate on 'day of rage' against Muammar Qaddafi"
"America's two closest friends in the region — Israel and Saudi Arabia — are both disgusted. The Saudis, who dread all manifestations of revolution, are appalled at Washington's failure to resolutely prop up Mubarak. The Israelis, meanwhile, are dismayed by the administration's apparent cluelessness. ..."
Well, at least there is a cause the right seems to find worth supporting. Prop up Mubarak to appease the Saudis so that their financing and sponsorship of worldwide Wahabi fundamentalism can continue unthreatened.
And it is supposedly the Obama administration that is clueless?
It actually is hilarious to me that the administration is being severely criticized for not propping up Mubarak any more than they did. They let Egypt resolve their own problems of leadership.
Who cares how many of those Kings, and Potentates in that area are ticked!
It is so funny because if we had helped Mubarak stay in power and helped quell the crowds--which would have been simple--I can't imagine how bad the criticism would then have been!
Why, we killed Egyptian innocent citizens just to keep a bandit in power---shame!!!
The Israelis do fear that a military or Islamic new regime (forget democracy) will void their peace treaty with Egypt, and we may have to help there later!
It was interesting, Jeff, watching how the Egyptian imbroglio played out in the American Reichwing. They'd been lecturin' the dittosheep for years how there was no such thing as "grey", anything and everything could be framed in terms of "black" and "white".
Along came the Egyptian protests.
The wingnuts had a collective brain freeze, searching for the elusive bumper-sticker talking point that never came. This lasted over two weeks, an eternity considering the world moves around at Internet Speed.
Beck and Palin tried pushing the "Oh NOE! Caliphates!" line over and over, but it failed to gain traction with anyone other than the most gullible fools (see: Observerofu).
The Right searched in vain for something....ANYTHING...to blame unrest in Egypt on President Barack Obama. Now that the dust is beginning to settle, the Monday Morning Quarterbacks of the Reich have declared Obama responsible for not being prescient enough to predict the riots in Egypt. Sure he had a war to manage in Iraq, but they conveniently overlooked that...
For more than ten years we have been fed numbers of unemployment at about one-half of their actual!
Good to see some are finally recognizing that fact.
About 45% of us are either unemployed, underemployed drastically, or simply on tax payrolls, or serving one another at non-productive jobs---not to mention hospital patients, disabled people, etc.
We made it those ten years by borrowing money from each other or from foreign countries. We will now be doing all that for another ten years in spite of everything we do.
As an example, what would it take for this very newspaper to gross twice the ads it now sells? That would be twice as many buying ads and twice as many buying the products advertised---or thereabouts.
Ain't gonna happen soon.
To assume that if Georgia and Fayette County were totally managing their economies with no federal taxation except for foreign necessities and defense, is a worse plan that what we have now. It is backward progress.
It would lead to what happened to Egypt this week. 7000 years and they are out of it totally again. Same with Italy, Scandinavia, Greece, Turkey,etc. Muslims and shysters will end up running it soon.
How on earth would one expect 50 individual states on 50 economic plans to ever progress, or even stand still?
We elected those representatives to run it for us---they are failing.
Egypt chose Pharaohs, Kings, dictators, and ignorance and that failed also.
Now, conservatives are saying the current administration should have backed Mubarak and not the resistors! If he had they would be saying that we had no business getting further involved!
See the problem?
It might be informative to review what happened in Persia and our 'backing' of Reza. Reza was put out - and allowed to live in Mexico in exile. We played an 'isolationist' but do 'business' role with the new leaders - and look what that got us!! I think there are more conservatives who really want to work for our country rather than the Republican Party. They are our hope. Fiscal conservatism is not a bad thing!! The American people need to be willing to accept the consequences of poor fiscal management - and be willing to make the sacrifices necessary to maintain our leadership position in the world. Taxes will have to be raised AFTER we get Americans employed!! The recovery is a process - and it's not going to be easy - no matter what economic theory one wishes to follow. IMO.
It might be informative to review what happened in Persia and our 'backing' of Reza. Reza was put out - and allowed to live in Mexico in exile. We played an 'isolationist' but do 'business' role with the new leaders - and look what that got us!! I think there are more conservatives who really want to work for our country rather than the Republican Party. They are our hope. Fiscal conservatism is not a bad thing!! The American people need to be willing to accept the consequences of poor fiscal management - and be willing to make the sacrifices necessary to maintain our leadership position in the world. Taxes will have to be raised AFTER we get Americans employed!! The recovery is a process - and it's not going to be easy - no matter what economic theory one wishes to follow. IMO.
Why did you say "Taxes will be raised"? Isn't our government already too large? We must get our SPENDING under control and support individual freedoms. BTW, you sound a little like Ron Paul above, there is hope for you! -GP
BTW, you sound a little like Ron Paul above, there is hope for you! -GP
There is room for cooperation and compromise in order to get this country back on its feet!! ' Statesmen' rather than 'politician's' are needed. Everyone has something of value to offer to the solution.
Why did you say "Taxes will be raised"?
Until we get a working citizenship that can contribute to 'taxes' - taxes will have to be raised in order to support the day-to-day operation of a country/state that has managed their finances badly for years. Government will have to be cut - and citizens will have to make sacrifices in order to continue to maintain world leadership. We cannot continue to 'cut' education when already we are losing ground in having an educated populace among the 50 industrialized countries. Americans will have to 'cut' their own budgets; and prepare for the reality of the consequences of allowing the spend, spend, spend philosophy to go on for decades - especially the past extremely poor management of an unbudgeted war. Cuts, hopefully, will be made with a vision of the responsibility of the future of the US role in world leadership.
Please describe, "under control," someway other than spend only what you get!
That right now means large cuts have to be made in Social Security, Medicaid, Medicare, Veterans benefits, Defense of our country, and pensions for soldiers and sailors.
That amounts to about 80% of our expenses. The other 20% would pretty much have to be totally stopped to balance the budget and pay any on the deficit.
Name the specific cuts, please THAT WILL DO the job! (Please don't say foreign aid and earmarks! That is about 1% only if all gone. Anyway if they weren't earmarks and needed aid they would be separate bills!
Got to have more income someway. Cuts will never do it.
Is everyone bad at math anymore?


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