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The history of Bob's Big Boy and Big Boy restaurants can be traced back to 1936 when Bob Wian bought a local Glendale restaurant and named it Bob's Pantry. Wian supposedly originated the double-decker hamburger and came up with the Big Boy character. Bob's Big Boy became a California chain and began franchising in the 1940s. Unlike other chains like McDonald's, Wian did not require uniformity. Franchise owners were free to name their restaurants whatever they wanted. The restaurants were known as Frisch's Big Boy and Manners Big Boy in Ohio. Frisch's and Manners Big Boy restaurants used the same skinnier, running boy as their mascot. In the late 1970s, Manners locations became Bob's Big Boy restaurants.
The restaurants were known as Elias Brothers Big Boy restaurants in Michigan, Northeastern Ohio, and Ontario. The Elias brothers had their own restaurants before becoming a Big Boy franchisee in 1952. The company kept the Elias name and added the Big Boy character and "Home of the Big Boy" to their signs and advertising. In 1987, they acquired the Big Boy chain's franchise rights from Marriott Corp. Big Boy is now Michigan-based and has about 450 restaurants in California, Arizona, Hawaii, North Dakota, Illinois, Michigan, Ohio and North Carolina. For more, see these websites: 1, 2, and 3. |
former Bob's Big Boy Los Angeles, CA |
This former Bob's Big Boy now houses Panang Restaurant. It was originally known as the Hinky Dick restaurant. It became a Bob's Big Boy in 1937. It closed in the mid-1970s. For more, see these websites: 1 and 2. |
Bob's Big Boy Burbank, CA |
This Bob's Big Boy was designed by Wayne McAllister and built in 1949. It is the oldest restaurant left in the chain. The building was saved in the early 1990s and restored to its original design. It is now the top revenue-producing Big Boy in the country. The Big Boy statues were produced by International Fiberglass in the 1960s. In the early 1980s, Big Boy had FAST of Sparta, WI produce about 100 new statues. For more, see these websites: 1, 2, 3, 4, and 5. |
Boomers Bike Shop Clarkston, MI |
Hi-Boy Sandwich Shop Lyndonville, VT |
former Big Boy Northridge, CA |
Boomers Bike Shop, a motorcycle store, has turned this Big Boy into Biker Boy. The statue is about nine feet tall.
The Hi-Boy Sandwich Shop has a Big Boy statue on the roof, altered to hold a plate with a sandwich. There are three Hi-Boy Drive-ins in Independence, MO using Big Boy images. I don't know if this place is related or just coincidence. For more, see this website. The arm of a former Big Boy statue has been put to use as a mailbox at this residence. |
Nick's Barbecue Burbank, IL |
Enzo's End Pizzeria Denver, CO |
Reiff's Gas Station Museum Woodland, CA |
Nick's Barbecue features a Big Boy-like statue. I don't know whether it was inspired by the Big Boy statue or if it is actually one that has been heavily adapted. Nick's Barbecue has another location in Palos Heights, IL but it doesn't appear to have a statue like this one.
This Big Boy statue at Enzo's End Pizzeria came from Hammond, IN. There, he stood in front of a candy store where he was known as Candy Andy. In 2010, the statue was installed on the roof of Enzo's after being adapted to hold a pizza platter. The statue is now nicknamed Big Enzo. For more, see this website. The Big Boy statue at Reiff's Gas Station Museum looks like it has a broader face to me. The statue seems to have less of a smile than the other ones. I don't know if Big Boy made different models or if this could be a knockoff. |
Dari Joy Bellows Falls, VT |
Dari Joy has been serving ice cream here since 1952. They have had the Big Boy (nicknamed "Big Joy Boy"), altered to wave, on the roof since the 1960s. I believe he gets put in storage for winter. For more, see this website. [photo at right thanks DinerFan] |
Bob's Big Boy [gone] Hesperia, CA |
Bob's Big Boy Alhambra, CA |
Bob's Big Boy St. Louis, MO |
Bob's Big Boy Escondido, CA |
Bob's Big Boy Norco, CA |
This Bob's Big Boy (#188) opened in 1982. It closed by 2011 and this statue was removed. [photo thanks Glenda Campbell]
The Bob's Big Boy statue in Alhambra is located inside Noodle World. The building had housed a Big Boy restaurant until 1996. Noodle World's owner bought the statue at a flea market. He pays Big Boy $1 per year for the right to display the statue. For more, see these websites: 1 and 2. This Big Boy statue in St. Louis is located inside the City Museum. [photo thanks Glenda Campbell] This Big Boy statue in Escondido is located at the Deer Park Winery & Auto Museum. The Big Boy restaurant in Norco has two Big Boy statues. One of them was custom built in 2009 as a cowboy. Norco is known as "Horsetown USA." For more, see this website. |
Kennedy's Cakes and Donuts [gone] Cambridge, OH |
Kennedy's Cakes and Donuts had a repainted Bob's Big Boy statue next to their building. His hamburger leaned against the side of the building when I took these photos in 2006. This classic Big Boy statue is 10 feet tall and holds a 40 inch hamburger. In 2014, the statue was sold and removed. Its new location is unknown. |
Big Boy [gone] Livonia, MI |
Big Boy Brighton, MI |
Big Boy Coldwater, MI |
Big Boy Fenton, MI |
Big Boy Alma, MI |
Big Boy Detroit, MI |
Big Boy Mason, MI |
Big Boy Novi, MI |
Big Boy Ann Arbor, MI |
Big Boy Pittsfield Township, MI |
Big Boy Chesterfield, MI |
Big Boy Milan, MI |
Big Boy Waterford, MI |
There are still lots of old Big Boy restaurants in Michigan and they are still being built.
The Livonia location featured a revolving Big Boy statue on top of its sign. I don't know of any other Big Boy's that have a sign like this or if this one was unique. The Big Boy statue in front of the restaurant held both of his suspenders instead of a burger. I believe this is an older, rarer 1950s Big Boy statue. There was also another sign on the side street entrance that I missed. These photos are from 2011. By 2014, this location had closed and the statues and signs were gone. For more, see this website. The Brighton location's statue also still revolves. There are still a few signs of this design in Michigan. The Coldwater statue is installed on top of the restaurant's sign. For more, see this website. I believe this Alma sign is the only one of its kind left. The Detroit Big Boy statue still revolves on top of the sign. This is the only Big Boy location in Detroit. The Novi Big Boy statue is believed to have come from a Saginaw location which closed. The Ann Arbor Big Boy features a "Suspenders Bob" like the one in Livonia shown above. The Pittsfield Township and Mason locations feature Big Boy statues in front of their restaurants. The Pittsfield Township location was built in 2005. The Chesterfield Big Boy statue spins above the sign. The Milan Big Boy statue has been here since at least the 1980s. The Waterford Big Boy statue is another oldie perched on top of a sign. [bottom row of photos & Mason Bob in the snow photo, thanks Mark Comstock] |
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Willimantic, CT Chatsworth, CA Gaylord, MI Sault Ste. Marie, MI [gone] St. Ignace, MI Kaatsheuvel, Holland |
Big Boy Farmington, MI |
This Big Boy is still housed in one of the very rare, old-style buildings. There is a statue of Bob in front of the building. The old sign has been replaced with a modern, plastic one. |
former Big Boy Wayne, MI |
This former Big Boy restaurant was vacant in 2005 when the top two rows of photos were taken. The interior has been gutted and the building was still vacant in 2011 when the bottom photo was taken. I believe Beehive Family Dining was the last occupant. |
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You see, I now have two daughters aged 1 and 4, a business to run and a household to take care of. So anything that demands more than ten minutes of a learning curve is a negative. That is probably the reason why my list of games that I must play keeps getting longer and longer. At the moment, Uncharted 2, Dragon Age and Arkham Asylum are on top of that list, but I'm sure they will slide down once Bioshock 2 is out.
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Domain registrants try to capitalize on Osama bin Laden's death.
Whenever there's a major news event — good or tragic — domain name registrations follow.
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These type of registrations are just waste of time and money.
1) These type of domains barely sale.
2) What will you do with that after this news is "Old News"?
3) These type of domains don't worth even registration fee. Because, only few of them have enough type-in to pay you what you have paid for the registration. -
They are teasing a newbie on DNF about
offering for sale. ( Ben Laden is dead .com)Not sure if he realized the correct spelling
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Totally, totally disagree! As an American, we have the liberty to buy whatever domain name we choose, or at least for the most part. I bought (removed) not because I wanted to profit but it was a way to vent! All Americans are proud of this day, after all a killer murdered thousands of Americans and it was my way of therapy! Oh, by the way Indian Marketer, I have already had at least 2 offers on this domain. I've been domaining since 96 and have seen this stuff before, but domaining is not all about making $…it's about having fun along the way…
I am the owner of OsamaKilled. I hardly see this as being old news for quite awhile… Not taking anything away from Michael Jackson, but I think this may be little more important… if you think it's dumb feel free to move on. Great day to be an American.
O'course; little chance of having to deal with UDRPs.
For me, acquiring goodriddanceosama.com was my way of celebrating a HUGE American victory, no matter what is the financial outcome. This is a once-in-a-lifetime event. Mr. bin Laden was a very bad person and brought pain to many victims, many families and peace-loving people worldwide, not simply Americans. But he gave the USA continuing pain by eluding us so well. Now… ding dong, the witch is dead. I for one want to CELEBRATE in a way that is meaningful to me. Thank you and God Bless both Bush & Obama, as well as the intelligence officers and armed forces involved for their focus, patience, fortitude, and courage. Good riddance, bin Laden!
Osama Bin Laden is an infamous trademark. Osama may sue for tm violation even after his death. Just joking!
Sigh… these "domainers" come and go with news stories. Let them keep wasting their cash on Ebay listings.
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Should a "venting" or "news" URL cost $50K? That's some expensive rhetoric to want to get off your chest!
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We had butcher block counters installed almost a year ago and had no issues so far. They were finished with Waterlox. The block pieces were not long enough, so we had to use two pieces joined together and the seam is right under the faucet and by the sink. I recently noticed that the ends of the boards at the seam are splitting/swelling. I hope that the pictures are clear enough to show it. Is this something that we can repair? Any advice would be greatly appreciated! Thanks! |
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You probably don't want to hear why but it's important to understand because it is a basic woodworking/furniture building issue that can be avoided with a little forethought. Moisture is absorbed by end grain much more than face grain. The seam should have been located away from the sink if possible. Where the two pieces meet should have the end grain treated before instatlation. Slow set epoxy glue would be a good choice. Urathane or type II glue would be my secound choice and simply applying multiple coats of same finish used on top would prevent this problem in most applications if fit is near perfect. I would consider routering as small of cove that removes discolored wood then apply as many coats of waterlox as the exposed end grain would absorb or coat cove with clear epoxy. If having the cove bothers you,the cove can be filled level with clear epoxy. |
Thank you very much for responding! I also contacted Waterlox and they advise to sand to bare wood and re-coat. The wood is not really discolored; it looks more like the block is starting to split. |
I don't normaly question wisdom passed out by manufactures but this is an exception. Unlike instructions on thier containers and web site,your advise came from an individual rather than a group of experts in the field. There is no approved procedure for handling your problem simply because it's not supposed to happen when everything is done right. I am not telling you sanding and refinishing will not work. However,I am questioning how the wood is any better procected than it was origionaly. |
- Posted by lazygardens (My Page) on Sat, Dec 28, 13 at 7:50
the ends of the boards at the seam are splitting/swelling That's what laminates do when they get wet. Sanding and recoating will not fix the problem of water getting into the wood from under the sink edge and down into the seam. How did you protect the cut edges of the sink opening before you installed the sink? |
- Posted by Trebruchet (firstname.lastname@example.com) on Sun, Dec 29, 13 at 19:20
I'd work a Japanese pull saw between the joint, tape the sides, and work some epoxy into the seam until I was sure it was saturated. Over fill it and sand it flush after it has set up. Refinish and keep the water off as much as possible. |
Here is a link that might be useful: pull saw
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The Portland Trail Blazers are in Washington, D.C., trying to hand the Wizards their 13th consecutive loss to start the season. This is great news for fans of history, but terrible for rookie point guards who are legitimately scared of statues of dead people.
From Damian Lilllard's Twitter:
I like DC. I wana come back and visit the memorials even though I'm scared of statues
People I'm only scared of historic statues. Abraham Lincoln , MLK, etc . Had a bad experience at the wax museum lmao
I'm not sure what's weirder here — that Damian Lillard is scared of statues or the idea of having a bad experience at the wax museum. Either way, it sounds like Damian Lillard should definitely avoid this place because that seems like a disaster waiting to happen.


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Originally published Friday, March 8, 2013 at 5:30 AM
Nook: Biscuits rise and shine at breakfast spot
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4754 University Way N.E., Seattle
Hours: 9 a.m.-1 p.m. Tuesday-Saturday; closed Sunday and Monday
Etc: Credit cards accepted; wheelchair accessible; parking on street; biscuit supplies often run out by 10 a.m. on Saturdays.
Prices: $
Biscuits weren't even the star attraction at Nook when Aki Woodward and her partner Alex Green opened this aptly named cubby hole of a breakfast cafe two years ago on The Ave, in Seattle's University District. The restaurant originally sold lunch sandwiches, with homemade buttermilk biscuits offered as a side item in the mornings. The biscuits were an instant hit and a new, breakfast-only concept for the space was born.
Woodward, who runs Nook mostly on her own now, recently trimmed the breakfast offerings in part because she's the only person in the tiny kitchen. She makes the biscuits, gravies and breakfast sandwiches herself, and when her supply of biscuits sells out — as it often does on Saturday mornings as shoppers at the nearby University District Farmer's Market make a pit stop at Nook — she closes early.
As part of the revamp this winter, Nook started sharing the space with Sound Coffee, run by the affable Kekoa Chin-Hidano.
The menu: Don't expect an extensive breakfast menu. This is a biscuit joint that doesn't try to be anything more. The biscuit sandwich ($5.50) comes with egg, cheese, bacon and tomato jam. Order it smothered in gravy ($7) or add house-pickled jalapeños for 75 cents extra. Biscuits and gravy ($6) comes with
either a sausage or
mushroom-based gravy. Plain buttermilk biscuits ($3) as well as savory and sweet biscuits ($3.35) can be
ordered a la carte with a selection of spreads.
What to write home about: It's hard to improve on a really good buttermilk biscuit, but Nook ups the ante with flavored versions, which can be substituted on sandwiches as well. I opted for the day's special when I visited — a deliciously moist and buttery biscuit with cheddar cheese and chives baked in.
The setting: The cozy storefront space, located right on The Ave, has tables for those who want to dine in.
Summing up: Two biscuit sandwiches and an Americano came to $13.75 plus tip (tax included in prices).
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Posted onA free boating workshop in Stamford, Conn., titled "Etiquette, Protocol, Respect, and Courtesy: Your Roles and Responsibility as Skipper" will address safe navigation and best practices with three experienced captains.
The workshop, sponsored by Atlantic Yacht Delivery LLC and West Marine, will take place from 11 a.m. to noon on Oct. 20 at West Marine.
"Directly or indirectly, your management style helps establish how well and how safely your yacht is managed and whether you and your boat reflect the best of maritime traditions," an Atlantic Yacht Delivery statement said. "In this discussion, three experienced and professional Stamford captains — Eric Knott, Mike Taylor and Bernie Weiss — review some principles and practical applications of your responsibility as captain and how you can enhance safe boating and fun boating for your guests and crew. Bottom line: You don't have to be a professional captain to act like one."
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Four Corner Lunge - within this exercise there are a number of variations as well as mediums. Beyond the "standard" forward lunge is one of my personal favorites that is the "four corner lunge" whereby you before a standard forward, then backward lunge followed by a deep side lunge to the dominant side, repeating each leg by three repetitions. The key to this lift is the feet are always pointed directly ahead putting particular stress on developing great hip strength and flexibility. Another variation to this is to add lunges to 45 degrees out to the side.
Single Leg Box Squat: this is absolutely not a basic bodyweight squat or also what is termed a "pistol squat". To perform, place back of heel against box which is knee height. With one leg raised as in Rx position 2, push butt back to box, drive leg off ground back to starting position and repeat with opposite leg.


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It's 5K race season and if you've always wanted to start running, now is a good time.
Most fitness experts suggest a several-week training program to build stamia for a 5K or a 3-mile run. Active.com offers a 10-week running plan, designed primarily for beginners, but it's also good for someone who has gotten out of the runners' habit.
The weather is warm, so all you need are pair of running shoes, comfortable clothing and a watch.
Beginning today and for the next five weeks, I'll post the plan's excerpts, but you can always go the website at Active.com.
The first two weeks, a 30-minute workout, three-times a week:
1 - For the first 5 minutes, walk -- no running. For the last 5 minutes, walk -- no running.
2 - During the 20 minutes in between, run or jog, easy. Do not over do it. Jog until you feel tired, or for a minimun of 30 seconds, then walk until you've recovered and repeat the pattern.
3 - Alternate between jogging and walking until the 20 minutes are up. Your mission is to do this three-times a week for two weeks.
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If you wanna impress your like, boyfriend's friends, just don't try to be like one of the guys and try to be something you're not. Just be yourself.
Just have fun, be yourself. Don't think too much.
If a girl is meeting her boyfriend's friend for the first time, I think that she should just be comfortable, be herself and--
Just gotta be-- smile all the time, have a good time. And even if they're doing [unknown] stuff, just let it go, have fun.
Ways to make a good impression on your boyfriend's friend is just kinda be yourself. Don't be that overbearing, controlling girlfriend who has to be by his side all the time.
Just be very friendly with everyone. I know it's difficult because you don't really know any of those friends. Just don't be shy. And they're not gonna eat you. They're just people.
Stay comfortable and just be yourself around them.
Just be yourself at all times, and everything should go well.
Find a guy that-- even if it takes a long time, find a guy that actually likes you for who you are, and you don't have to-- you can be yourself around them, and then it will just become easier during the relationship.
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On hearing that it wasn't to be a straight-forward eviction, Eric had been quick to once again predict who would be leaving the camp.
"I'm going to beat him. I don't play to lose," the darts player said.
"I would have sent anyone home, anyone I played. It's just unlucky it's my friend Colin."
In another twist, the pair were told they each had to chose a female campmate to join them in taking part in the Panic Rooms trial.
Eric picked a shocked Rosemary Schrager, saying: "There's a first on TV - me and Rosemary friends."
The chef did admit to be anxious that snakes would be involved, but added: "I'm honoured that he picked me and hopefully I can do it."
Colin felt bad picking any of his female campmates, but finally opted for EastEnders star Charlie Brooks, telling her: "We've bonded for life for this. I'm at your beck and call."
I feel a bit like I'm about to enter 100 metres with Usain Bolt.Colin Baker
I feel a bit like I'm about to enter 100 metres with Usain Bolt.
Colin Baker
On arriving at the trial site, Eric revealed his game plan behind choosing Rosemary.
"The first night here she sat in a hut for the night with bugs so that was the ploy behind choosing Rosemary," he explained to Ant and Dec.
Rosemary said she was going to go for it, simply because she didn't want to face "the wrath of Eric".
It was explained that the trail involved two identical panic rooms, with one wall in each room covered in 'hell holes' - each containing stars as well as a few surprises.
Naturally, the surprises involved crocs, snakes, crabs, cockroaches, scorpions and other critters.
The celebs were given five minutes to find as many stars as they could and deposit them in a box - large stars would win them meals for camp, while little stars counted towards Colin or Eric's survival.
Charlie and Rosemary tackled the challenge first, shrieking the entire time.
"Rosemary, to the day I die, I'll remember that. I've been watching a screaming lunatic," Eric said.
While the men were calmer, Eric was nipped by a snake, prompting him to declare: "He doesn't like me and he's had a wee in here."
It was a crab that attacked Colin, several times in fact.
"The crab kept coming at me!" he said, although he later claimed the trial wasn't as scary as he'd expected.
No Tardis required today.Charlie Brooks
No Tardis required today.
Charlie Brooks
Between the two teams, a total of five meals for camp were won - but they had to wait for the weigh-in to find out whether it would be Colin or Eric who would have to leave.
In the end, the stars collected by Colin and Charlie were found to weigh 82g. But the stars collected by Eric and Rosemary weighed 260g, making Eric the clear winner.
After 16 days, and looking considerably lighter, Colin made his way out of camp.
He told Ant and Dec that it felt "remarkably good" to be out and added that he wanted Eric to win the show.
The gruff darts player has rubbed a few campmates up the wrong way, but Colin insisted that all was still harmonious among the celebs.
"I adore him," he added of Eric. "In the early days, when I was struggling a bit physically, he was the one who helped me and encouraged me."
Colin's exit leaves Ashley, Charlie, David, Eric, Helen, Hugo and Rosemary in camp, with another celeb due to be evicted in Monday night's show.
Thanx for lovely tweets re tonights show, sad to lose Colin. Cant believe we're nearly done, only 7 of them and 6 shows left. D— antanddec (@antanddec) November 25, 2012
Thanx for lovely tweets re tonights show, sad to lose Colin. Cant believe we're nearly done, only 7 of them and 6 shows left. D
— antanddec (@antanddec) November 25, 2012
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Neil Peart Biography
Neil Peart (pronounced "Peert" not "Pert"), born September 12, 1952, near Hagersville, Ontario, is the drummer and lyricist for the Canadian rock band Rush. Rush is the most successful band from Canada, having played together for close to 40 years, and selling 27 million records in the U.S. and over 40 million records worldwide.
Over the years, Rush has developed their own style of progressive rock, weaving together heavy metal, art rock, reggae, new wave, pop, grunge, and classical styles with thoughtful lyrics. The result has been 20 diverse studio albums, 9 live albums, 10 video albums, successful tours, and a fiercly loyal fan base. Rush's latest studio album, Clockwork Angels (2012) is considered one of their best by both the fans and critics.
As a drummer, Peart is known for his large drum kits, creative and intricate parts and extensive drum solos that delight both drummers and non-drummers alike. He's won many reader's poll awards from Modern Drummer, including 12 consecutive "best recorded performance" awards. In 2013, he won the MVP award and Best Prog Drummer for Modern Drummer.
Peart is has continued to learn new techniques and approaches to the drums, studying with Jazz drummers Freddie Gruber and Peter Erskine. He's written that his goal was to become more of an improvisational drummer. In recent tours, he's left entire sections of his solo open for improvisation.
When not busy with Rush, Peart has recorded or performed with Vertical Horizon, the Buddy Rich Band, and others. In 2008, Peart returned to New York City for a Buddy Rich Memorial concert. In 2009, he also recorded a new version of "The Hockey Song."
In addition to his job as a musician, Peart is a proflic writer. He's written six non-fiction books, including The Masked Rider, Ghost Rider, Traveling Music: The Soundtrack to My Life and Times, and Roadshow: Landscape With Drums: A Concert Tour by Motorcycle, and Far & Away: A Prize Every Time. He's also written many articles for Modern Drummer and other magazines, and frequent blog entries for his website NeilPeart.net. For the Clockwork Angels album, Neil Peart collaborated with writer and friend Kevin J. Anderson on a Clockwork Angels novel, which became a New York Times beststeller.
Peart lives in the Los Angels area with his wife Carrie Nuttall (married in 2000) and daughter Olivia (born in 2010). Before this time, Peart was married to Jackie Taylor for 22 years, and they had one daughter Selena. In 1996, Selena died in a car accident, and then Jackie died a year later of cancer. Peart chronicled his story of loss and his recovery in his heartwrenching book, Ghost Rider.
Essential Rush recordings include: Fly by Night (1974), 2112 (1976), Permanent Waves (1980), Moving Pictures (1981), Exit... Stage Left (1982), Grace Under Pressure (1984), Power Windows (1985), Roll the Bones (1991), Counterparts (1993, Vapor Trails (2002), and Clockwork Angels (2012)
Trivia and facts about Neil Peart
- He officially joined Rush July 29, 1974.
- In his spare time, Peart rides BMW motorcycles, drives fast cars, snowshoes, bird watches, and hikes.
- His favorite drink after a concert or a long day on the road is The Macallan.
- Peart's nicknames are "Pratt" and "The Professor."
- His drum style is inspired by countless drummers, but he's mentioned Keith Moon of the Who as one of his most important early influences.
- He's appeared in several films as himself, including I Love Your Man and Adventures of Power.
- In 1996, he became an Officer of The Order of Canada, the highest civilian decoration in Canada.
- In 2013, after years of eligibility, Rush was inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. At the mere mention of Rush's name by Jann Wenner, Rush got a 2-minute standing ovation.
- Peart has said that he's a "bleeding heart libertarian."
- His website includes section on cooking called "Bubbas Bar 'n' Grill," which has recipes, cooking techniques, and even a forum.
- For the Clockwork Angels tours, Peart has fired t-shirts out of an air cannon at the beginning of the encore.


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Actually I just posted below, but I'm really curious about adopting a *more vegetarian* diet, plus cut out sugar, processed foods, corn, flour, peanuts, etc. (I've been reading how these can cause bloating, etc, so I'd like to at least cut back). I have type 1 diabetes and asthma, and am starting to believe/feel that I REALLY NEED to make some serious changes in my diet. But I come from a long line of southern fried chicken, bbq smacking friends and family. They tease me and dh for drinking water!!! What I'm trying to say is, it will be personally DIFFICULT for me to change (because I love junk food and meat), plus I won't have much support, except for my husband. But part of me feels desperate to change! Any advice/personal stories??? I would really like to hear from you! Thanks. ~ Holly |
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- Posted by paulmyoung (My Page) on Fri, Sep 20, 02 at 16:44
Hi Holly, I've been vegetarian for 5 years and a vegan for 4. The change was not difficult once I decided that morally and healthwise it was the right thing to do. A good healthfood store can sell you products that look and taste just like your former favorites and will satisfy your cravings. I also strongly suggest The Compassionate Cook as a great resource to help you with the change. Every item in there is tasty, easy, and tested. Regards your friends, if they really are friends, they will support you and your chosen lifestyle. Good luck and make the change today! :-) Paul |
- Posted by plantladyCo (My Page) on Sat, Sep 21, 02 at 10:45
Been a veggie for 25+ years. The way we did it was gradually. Started with 1 meatless day a week until we were comfortable with it. ---then 2 days and all the way up to all days. I think you'll find a lot more acceptance today than we had then. One easy way to start is to make a meal you're used to and just substitute something meatless for the meat course of that meal. Mushrooms work well. |
- Posted by LifeIsSweet (My Page) on Sun, Sep 22, 02 at 16:17
Thank you!!! ~ Holly |
Try Vegweb.com for recipes and great forums to help you ease into eating differently. I found it helped me a lot. Good luck! |
Here is a link that might be useful: VegWeb - Veggies Unite!
As everyone else suggests, go slow. I changed from a meat-eater to a vegetarian ( almost vegetarian, I eat a little of our own free-range turkeys-maybe once every 2 weeks) within 2 years. The problem is not, not to eat meat anymore, the problem is how to substitute meat and change a lifelong habit. I feel so much better, since not eating meat anymore. Right now I am in the process of cutting down on cheese a lot. Never liked milk, so that was easy. |
I am vegetarian to the point that I don't eat meat, fish or fowl. I do use dairy products but I don't use eggs because I don't like them. I have tried the various meat substitute products made from soy and other vegetable protein. What I don't like about these products is that they are textured like meat, especially the ones that are replacements for ground beef. I hate the texture of ground beef and I hate the texture of the vegetable meat substitute products. Why do they texture this stuff with that awful ground beef texture that I hate? Judith |
It's been so long that our diet changed that it is almost difficult to remember LOL We changed because I really don't like the smell of meat cooking and husband has a genetic linked disease which causes extremely high cholesterol and triglycerides. If you occasionally feel the need for a meat dish, the world won't end. Just cook it with no added fat, and portion control is a must! McD's does not serve correct portions. Stay away from all fast food places. They are supersizing people into strokes. Children now have cholesterol readings by age 8 that didn't used to show up until they reached their 50's! For meat that won't hurt occasionally, choose buffalo, emu, or ostrich. IF you need an incentive, visit the nearest nursing facility or home. Do you really want to end up there? |
SInce your DH is on board, I don't think you will have too much of a problem most of the time. It's really tough when not everyone wants to be a vegetarian (or one goes vegan and the other won't). People eventually get used to planning for your tastes. Several friends are various shades of vegetarian and it's really no big deal to plan menus with them. DH doesn't know it yet, but I'm starting to go vegetarian on New Years (the only resolution I've ever made). I'm cutting out land animals first; I already don't eat pork because all those pretty pictures of eastern NC towns covered on floating pig poop after the nearby hog lagoons overflowed during Huricane Fran kinda turned me off of pig. Go figure. That part will be easy. I probably won't cut out seafood, though. Maryland steamed crabs are too good to give up. I'm careful about overfishing issues (the swordfish ban was difficult), but I don't think I can give up the taste. |
- Posted by plantladyCo (My Page) on Wed, Dec 18, 02 at 13:54
You'll be surprised how your tastes change when you start exploring other ways to eat. I only set out to give up red meat and wound up totally veggie(ovo-lacto) |
- Posted by simply_shelia (My Page) on Thu, Jan 16, 03 at 13:50
Can someone explain the difference between a vegan and a vegetarian?And can someone share a site that would explain the why's and all that a possibly future convert would need to know? THanks alot.Shelia |
- Posted by paulmyoung (My Page) on Thu, Feb 20, 03 at 20:58
A vegetarian abstains from eating flesh but generally will consume eggs, milk, and honey. A vegan does not consume any animal product nor does she wear or use anything of animal origin. Paul |
What would someone who does not eat ANY animal products but wears lots of black leather be called? Sunny |
It hasn't been hard for me, but I'm not a vegan. When I'm in someone else's house for dinner, I eat mostly the vegetarian foods and just a tiny bit of meat. However, by now most know I prefer to abstain from it so they try to acommodate me. |
- Posted by paulmyoung (My Page) on Tue, Dec 30, 03 at 14:36
What would someone who does not eat ANY animal products but wears lots of black leather be called? Conflicted? Foolish? Annoying? Paul |
Sunnyco, I'd call them a hypocrite...but it depends on why they are vegetarian. I won't eat anything that had a mother. I only eat free range eggs. I do eat cheese, because I'm concerned about protein, but I'd like to get to the point where I'm not dependent on that. I work very hard to find non-animal products for purses and shoes. Lifeissweet, can't advise you about diet as far as diabetes is concerned, but I understand that the guidelines proposed by "The Zone" diet, and the Harvard Medical School are supposed to be good for diabetics. Neither are strictly vegetarian, but they seem to offer good advice on a balanced diet, and pay attention to foods that cause insulin to sky-rocket. Sally |
- Posted by SeekingFlow (My Page) on Thu, Jan 1, 04 at 8:36
Interesting thread! I am a vegan, have been for about 8 years. This is a long post because the subject is important to me. My reasons for becoming a vegan are closely related to how easy it was to change my eating habits, so I am going to be somewhat detailed. In answer to the original question posted, I did not find it difficult to change my eating habits. I started out eating no dairy and no meat or poultry, but eating seafood. That decision was motivated by learning about factory farming and the way animals in the US are inhumanely treated when they are being raised for slaughter. And also by learning that egg production and milk production are related industries (male calves of dairy cows may be sold for veal, for example) and that the conditions in those are also disturbing. I hadn't known. I should say that I hadn't made it my business to know, despite a very close friend who is a vegan and an animal activist. It took me several years of knowing her before I made the decision to really find out. So, I don't judge people who are taking steps on the path to being a vegan or vegetarian, or who care deeply for cats and dogs but still eat cows and chickens, or who eat completely vegetarian diets but also wear leather. Everyone walks their own path in their own time. Anyway, when I learned how animals in the US are routinely mutilated and caged and restrained in tiny spaces and painfully transported and slaughtered, I couldn't put another bite of chicken or beef in my mouth. I stopped eating seafood shortly after that, because I just became uncomfortable eating anything that had been alive, or killing it for clothing. (I have heard that this is pretty common for people who start out being vegetarian or partially vegetarian.) So, I try not to use animal-derived products. I say try, because this is the real world, and occasionally I make compromises. If I am on a business trip in Ohio, out to dinner with clients, and the only close-to-vegan thing on the menu is a veggie burger that is a brand that uses egg whites, I may order it. (If I am on my own, I will find someplace else to go, but I can't always control the restaurant for business meals.) I would prefer a vegan veggie burger, and I will mention that to the wait staff, but I also feel there is value in supporting any restaurant's efforts to offer vegetarian alternatives. I also compromise sometimes about insects. If necessary I will kill bugs that invade my home. I rescue spiders, but I have exterminated ants in the kitchen or (yech!) roaches in my office building. I have purchased four silk blouses in the last 8 years, and now and then used products with honey in them. Making those compromises does not in my view make me a hypocrite, or vitiate my commitment, or devalue the major life changes I have made. They just mean I am human. I don't preach to people who eat meat, or comment on what they are eating. (It is MUCH more likely that someone will ask me about my food choices, and then make a comment to me, along the lines of 'wasn't that carrot alive, too' or something equally original. I ignore it and am generally quite polite. It gets old, however.) I don't bring up the subject of the cruelty of factory farming. If someone _asks_ why I am a vegan, I say that I am a vegan for ethical reasons, because factory farming in the US is often inhumane, and it disturbs me. I am not graphic or inflammatory -- I don't go beyond that statement to describe the grotesque practices that are commonplace. (This post is far more graphic than I ever am in casual conversation.) I also usually say that I find it easy to be a vegan -- which is true -- because it feels right to me. My day-to-day actions are integrated with my moral outlook. (By which I mean, but generally don't bluntly say, that I don't have to do that thing of not picturing what I am eating, not thinking about what it used to be, and how it was killed, and cut apart, and cooked.) I try to give an answer that is true to my beliefs, but that is also respectful of the other person. I try to do what my vegan friend did for me, for years -- she told me what she believed in, and left it to me to find my own time and place to learn and to make my own decision. At any rate, that is my long and involved answer to the question; obviously I found it to be an interesting question, and I wanted to give my perspective. Thanks for reading it. Happy New Year to everyone, and be well, Seeking Flow PS If you are interested, Farm Sanctuary's website is informative about factory farming. See link below. |
Here is a link that might be useful: Farm Sanctuary Website
This is an intersting thread. I became a vegetarian in stages. When I was 16 or 17, I stopped eating beef and pork. A couple of years later, I stopped eating poultry and fish followed shortly after. I do still eat dairy and occassionally eggs. Changing your eating habits (or any other for that matter) can be difficult unless you are really have a reason, motivation and support to do so. You seem to me to have all 3. Try getting a few vegetarian cookbooks from the library. You will probably discover many new and yummy recipies to try. There are also lots of ways to make some of your favorite non vegetarian foods meatless by substituting with things like beans and soy analogs. Good luck! I bet the transition will be easier than you think! |
- Posted by lpinkmountain (My Page) on Sat, Jan 10, 04 at 11:27
I'm dating a guy who is not a vegetarian and the whole thing seems odd to him because he thinks "everything is a side dish," so this has given me a little insight into the difficulty of switching to a vegetarian diet. The key thing is, vegetarianism is a lot more than just not eating meat, it is a whole lifestyle. Being an vegetarian for ecological and health reasons, it is a lot more important to me that my food is low fat, organic, locally grown and minimally processed rather than strictly "without meat." I also like to eat whole grains and lots of vegetables and I like food that tastes yummy, I don't want to feel deprived. I suggest you start by trying to incorporate whole grains and fresh fruits and veggies into your diet. Seek out recipes that combine lots of ingredients and meals that combine several different dishes, then you won't miss the meat. Don't just serve up your regular meal without the meat. Vegetarian meals are not like "meat, vegetable, salad, roll and dessert." They may be three salads, for example. Start with the familiar--pasta, salad and whole grain roll, soup and salad and whole grain bread, vegetarian versions of familiar casseroles--scalloped potatoes, goulash, shepard's pie, baked beans, etc. Quiche is easy to make too. Then, when you're feeling comfortable with the new cooking techniques and new menu style, you can start to branch out. You may want to try substituting tofu for dairy in some dishes. You may want to experiment with meat substitutes--I recommend the Mornigstar Farms and Yves brands. I recommend subscribing to Vegetarian Times magazine, it is not that expensive and a lot of what is in it is meant to support folks who are just getting started, along with suggestions for branching out. They have a great feature where folks submit recipes and they develop low fat vegetarian versions. You have to get used to whole foods, but once you do, you will never want to go back, processed food will just taste too tame! Good luck. |
- Posted by Nancy_in_Mich (My Page) on Sun, Feb 15, 04 at 0:31
"What would someone who does not eat ANY animal products but wears lots of black leather be called? " Just as deserving of the right to live his/her life the way he/she chooses as those who choose vegan for animal rights reasons. There are as many reasons to be veg or vegan as there are people who chose this path. Imposing your point of view on others (or assuming that they share your point of view because you have some things in common) is no more graceful for the far left as it is for the far right. |
Here is a book that my nutritionist recommended book Holly, I cope by remebering it is temporary and that I need to get better so I can enjoy the rest of my life - feeling good is a joy. BTW, I am not recommending anyone go on a drastic diet - I am just sharing my experience. good luck figuring out what you want to do |
Fascinating! I've read the entire thread, as *someday* I may get serious about this veggie thing. In the meantime, I can recommend a website that is for vegans. It's by Hallelujah Acres and has a wealth of information and support. These folks eat very "garden of Eden," recommending a mostly raw diet. There are recipes and tips from joyful people. Good for exploration. Enjoy! |
Here is a link that might be useful: Hallelujah Acres
Nancy, I like your answer the best! I was surprised at paulmyoung's reply becuase I know a few people who do not eat meat, eggs or dairy products (a couple who eat raw foodsalmost exclusively) but do not have an objection to owning leather furniture or wearing leather shoes. They do not appear to be conflicted, foolish or annoying but they are very healthy and energetic! I am moving toward a vegetarian diet with very little dairy and some eggs. I will probably end up almost-vegan since that is the diet I think is healthiest. I will probably never completely quit eating honey, though I am cutting most sugar out of my diet so I will not eat much. I will not quit wearing leather, or at least I don't plan to. The biggest problem I am having is that I can not each much soy, so that eliminates a whole bunch of meat substitutes and tofu, which I have used quite a bit in the past as a meat and dairy sub. This is not an easy transition for me but it is important. Thanks, Sunny |
Pronunciation: 'vE-g&n also 'vA- also 've-j&n or -"jan Function: noun Etymology: by contraction from vegetarian : a strict vegetarian who consumes no animal food or dairy products; also : one who abstains from using animal products (as leather) |
Try to get ahold of as many exotic & interesting fruits & vegetables as you can so good food is more exciting. For example, start growing your own vegetables, concentrating on unusual tomatoes, asian vegetables, unusual eggplants, spices, etc. |
- Posted by alicesRestaurant (My Page) on Sun, Oct 3, 04 at 13:31
The real problem with being vegetarian is dealing with the social implications. Example: Christmas Eve tradition in our family consists of meeting at my brother's house for Mexican food. Since my husband and I have been vegetarians, we don't eat the meat enchiladas and meat tamales normally served. We try not to make a big issue and just eat the cheese dip, olives, rice and beans but I always have a sense that everyone else is uncomfortable. I am currently considering trying to phase into being vegan. I know this will be even worse as far as social issues. I just wish other people didn't feel so uncomfortable about it. I have to decide which I feel more strongly about, making people feel uncomfortable socially or being conerned about the abuse of animals along with the unhealthy manner in how the animals/meats are handled when up for sale. Unhealthy used here in respect to the consumer. Another problem is that it seems that many associate begin vegetarian with being unpatriotic. |
- Posted by GardenSpice (My Page) on Mon, Oct 4, 04 at 17:30
Alice - Have you tried bean tamales (no lard)? Maybe you could bring some bean tamales to share and it would make everyone (including you) more comfortable. Not that I think it is your job to make any "comfortable" with your dietary choices. (I've not eaten meat for close to 20 years, but it never failed - for probably 15 years my mom would ask me EVERY Thanksgiving if I was still not eating turkey.) If you decide to try them, look in the freezer section of your store. They are pretty common around here. For OP, Holly: Make your changes over time, as has been suggested. Start with meatless meals worked into your routine and grradually increase the number. Try things like veggie burgers and Tofu dogs, if that fits better into your lifestyle than recipes that are really different for you. TBS, eventually do try some of the more exotic meals - I think the key is that you need not to feel deprived. For some of us, our original reasons for becoming veggie were for reasons other than health and I think that makes it easier. Good Luck! |
- Posted by alicesRestaurant (My Page) on Tue, Oct 5, 04 at 0:30
I assumed the bean tamales were made with lard. I'll look and see if there are any without lard. That would help some, probably. --Alice |
Anyone interested in reading a book that comes from an interesting angle explores the raising of farm animals in this country should read "Fast Food Nation". It's an interesting read. |
I thought this was an interesting topic -- I recently had to completely reform my diet, due to high cholesterol. I cut out red meat completely, and am only occasionally having chicken or fish. This is actually something I had been wanting to do for a while, as I've always felt uncomfortable eating meat...but the thing holding me back was that I don't like vegetables very much! Well, when you're hungry enough, even peas and carrots look yummy ;) The thing I've found that works well is finding substitutes for as much as possible; a lot of the meat substitutes are actually pretty good. I've even learned to like tofu (it really tastes kind of like bland chicken). The hard part for me is that I've never been much of a cook, and so ate mostly prepackaged meals. That doesn't work very well anymore, since most tv meals are far too high in fat to fit into my diet plan...so I've actually had to start cooking. It's fun now; give it another few months, and I may feel differently. The other hard part has been getting my husband to go along with it (he has high cholesterol as well). He's turned up his nose at most things I eat, but we've managed to find some compromises: home-made veggie pizza, or tacos made with crumbled soy are a couple of surprisingly good meals he'll eat. I'm going to take a gander through this forum and see what else I can find :) |
taralee, Here are a couple of cookbooks that might help: Mayo Clinic-Williams-Sonoma cookbook Both have excellent recipes that aren't difficult to cook and food that tastes good for what it is, not as a substitute for something else. Even our teenage son liked chickpea fritters from Weil's book. You can find both of them online. |
Hi! In response to the original question (was it hard to change your diet?) NO! I am a veggie for moral & ethical reasons. A while back, I did a little investigation into factory farming, and what I found out made me lose my taste for meat forever. For me, it was that simple. It was also a bit easy for me also, because I've always actually preferred vegetables, and grow most of my own. The health benefits of a meatless (and dairyless) diet are great - my sky high cholestorel went WAY down within a couple of months, I generally feel more energetic, I've lost a little weight and am able to keep it off, and my conscience is clear of causing harm to another living being. If there's a Whole Foods or Earth Fare near you, try 'em out. There are lots of meat-alternatives available, such as Wham (meatless ham), Tuno (meatless tuna), and lots more. By incorporating these into your diet, you will still be getting all the protein you need. Good Luck! |
I'm originally from Iowa and adopted a vegetarian lifestyle in the early 1980's when I was a freshman in High School. I was working on a school report and was totally disgusted at how animals were treated in the factory farms. My parents were totally unsupportive and I received many a lecture on how I was an embarrassment, not to tell their friends, how they could loose business, etc. (they manufacture animal health products, among other things). Well, to make a long story short, they were unsupportive about a lot of things and I'm still a vegetarian! I don't think there is a stigma like there once was and restaurants are paying attention. It's so nice to go to a restaurant today and have something other than a grilled cheese sandwich. When I am in a social situation, I don't make a big deal about it. People may notice, but it seems more people are curious. My husband was a total meat and potato guy when we met 8 years ago. I still make meat for him - or buy it and he grills it, but more and more he is choosing veggie too. I really enjoy Vegetatian Times as a resource for recipes. Good luck! |
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