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Thomson Celebration Cruise Review by Jag500: Way Above Expectations - Choose to Cruise!!
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Way Above Expectations - Choose to Cruise!!
We did the Thomson Celebration Red Sea Magic out of Sharm el Sheikh (not shown in the departure listing so I've put Safaga) at the end of November 2010. We were a bit wary as had cruised on the Destiny and were bitterly disappointed with the standard, but the Celebration Team changed our minds and we would certainly go on this ship again.
The cabins are basic but comfortable and the bathrooms clean and functional. We are not talking high luxury here (such as on P&O, Carnival, Royal Caribbean etc) but everything worked and we spent so little time inside that it didn't really matter.
Let's get the gripes out of the way up front and then move onto all the good stuff. The towels were rubbish - I'd have discarded the towels for dog-drying long before Thomson obviously do. They were thin, scratchy, stained and greyish.
All flights etc. were great - no hold ups to speak of. Easy embarkation. Staff of course lovely.
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although it was tiring with 3 long trips which had you out of bed at 6.00 a.m. or earlier. The shows were really good; more singing than dancing, and don't miss the Crew Cabaret - it was fantastic. Watch out for the two main singers - they should be in the showteam! The restaurant was a hundred times better than on Destiny. Ask for the wine list rather than the wine of the day which tended to be a bit expensive. Dining is 'freedom' style so that you sit with different people every evening which we really enjoy as you get to meet lots of interesting people.
We normally like to do plenty of dancing on cruises, and this was the only cruise where we didn't really get to do much. There was ballroom early evening (not for us) but then a big gap between end of show & start of disco, which because of the early starts you couldn't be bothered to wait for. The DJ was okay, but didn't really seem to read the crowd that well. Most of the passengers were 40 - 60 and a lot of the time the music was definitely not suitable for this age group. Lots of quizzes etc. if you're into that kind of thing.
A final point - we got stuck in Sharm after the cruise because of snow in the UK. The ship staff and Thomson generally were great. Information was pretty good; I think they didn't know what was going on, so couldn't tell us really. Anyway we had a great final day on board, used one of the courtesy cabins to shower and change ready to travel, and then got bussed to a fabulous 5* hotel where we spent 2 days all-inclusive soaking up the sun. We were really well looked after, the rooms were very comfortable and the food/drink all free. It was a nice relax after the long trips whilst cruising.
Do note that the loos at Sharm airport in T2 are horrendous. Perhaps Thomson could have a word!!!
Would we cruise with Thomson again - Yes. Would we advise other people to do this cruise - Yes.
One of the nicest touches - the greeting of hot towels, juice and the crew band waiting on the quayside when you got back from EVERY trip. Less
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If you are of a sensitive disposition, beware that Cairo is pretty much all slum and there are some unpleasant sights out there. The pollution is thick - both in the air and on the ground, and especially in the Nile and its canals.
The trip to Luxor from Safaga is even longer so take pillows if you can. You get a picnic box on all the trips (even though you get a proper lunch), so water/drink, nibbles etc. are to hand. This is a 3.5 hour drive EACH WAY - take books, iPod etc. as some of the landscape is boring. Luxor was great. Valley of the Kings is the pinnacle so if you don't do any other trips do this one. Karnak also amazing.
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Like chicken soup, it seems almost every culture has it's own version of meatballs, and lately I've been inspired to play around with different variations. These were made with Hopkins Farm lamb, both the meatballs and the sauce infused with the flavors of Greek cuisine, which I served on a bed of orzo. While I was very happy with the flavors of the dish, I want to work a bit on the texture of the meatballs. This one's getting a do-over very soon.
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Bikes were a big part of my childhood. I can't remember a time I didn't own a bike as a child.
Being the oldest of three sisters, bikes stayed around awhile, being passed down from one to another.
I still remember my first wheeled vehicle.
It was a tricycle with a seat on the back. It was the perfect size for a large teddy bear — or little sister.
It had blue and red streamers on the handlebars and plastic cushioned seats. The seat on the back featured a picture of a little boy riding the bike with a girl riding on the back.
I have a vague recollection that I got the bike for Christmas.
I made the bike my own with a license plate from an Alpha-Bits cereal box, my favorite at the time.
That bike got a lot of miles around our neighborhood, mostly in the alley behind our house. I'm so glad they repaved that alley just about the time I became really interested in biking.
The smooth white surface was much better than the pothole-ridden asphalt it replaced. Occasionally, I would ride around the block with my little sister on the back and mom close at hand.
I think I even rode it to vacation Bible school once.
Then came the time for me to graduate to the world of a bicycle with training wheels.
My younger sister inherited the two-seated trike, and her beloved white bear with brown ears became a ready passenger.
Once or twice I did hitch a ride on the back of my former trike.
My first experience with a bike wasn't as great. The two-wheeler was bought secondhand outside someone's house. This bike's streamers were long gone before I ever owned it. The training wheels didn't always touch the ground. But, it was better than nothing, so I tried to learn to ride it. My dad provided assistance when he could, but it was really hard to balance.
I was elated when I came home from camp one summer and found a new bike waiting for me in my room. It was beautiful and pink. It had glittery streamers on the handlebars. It was on this bike that I gained confidence in riding on two wheels, until I could ride my old, now better-suited, bike with no training wheels.
It was on this pink bike that my younger sister learned to ride, until she too graduated to the world beyond training wheels. By now, the larger bike was probably on its third or fourth kid and needed some care.
A makeover of purple with yellow striping gave the bike new life as my sister rode it around the block.
I had since moved on to a new bike of purple. It was with this bike I ended the hand-me-down tradition. While my younger sister rode it some while I was away at college, it remained my bike.
I came back to claim it and she was able to get one of her own, when she wanted it.
The two-seated trike was not discarded, though no longer ridden. Occasionally, a stuffed animal would find its way into the back seat as it sat in the basement, awaiting the day another rider would steer it.
By the time my youngest sister was old enough to ride the trike, it had seen better days. She rode it until my dad decided it was no longer safe, and bought her a red trike.
From the trike, she went on to ride the pretty pink bike.
Two summers ago, I took the training wheels off the pretty pink bike as I was determined to teach my youngest sister how to ride without them. She was starting to feel semi-comfortable with the idea when we realized the bike was too small.
As seems to be par for the course, she had outgrown the pink bike before the training wheels had come off.
And so again we moved to the first bike my parents had bought for me.
By the end of the day, my youngest sister had a scrape or two on her knee. She wasn't quite confident yet, but she never went back to training wheels.
Today, the red trike has given joy to a family friend's toddler and probably a few other children by now. And, I recently passed on my bike to Habitat for Humanity after not riding it for a year.
While I'm not sure whether I could still balance on a bike, I know I will never forget the memories and good times that bikes have brought.


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A visit to this second-floor travel bookstore—which carries JFK Airport's pre-1963 moniker and even some of its old stained glass—is a reminder that vacations used to be fun before inflated fuel prices and security lines. Guidebooks, travel-related fiction and photo books line wooden bookshelves, while stools and glowing lights invite readers with a wanderlust to take off a load and stay awhile.
Idlewild Books
Venue name: | Idlewild Books |
Address: |
12 W 19th St New York |
Cross street: | between Fifth and Sixth Aves |
Venue phone: | 212-414-8888 |
Website: | http://idlewildbooks.com |
Opening hours: | Mon–Thu 11am-8pm, Fri–Sun noon–7pm |
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St. Mark Presbyterian Church
Saturday, November 1, 2014
10701 Old Georgetown Road
Rockville, MD 20852
2012, 2013, 2014 by Ruth Blau
This show takes place only once a year and is a great opportunity to purchase those special, art-to-wear scarves, hats, and garments; jewelry, hand-dyed yarns and fabrics, small gift items, and much more. We'll also have our traditional "Back Room" with equipment, yarn, fabric, notions, books, magazines. The show is sponsored by the
Potomac Fiber Arts Gallery
9:30 a.m. to 4:00 p.m.
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What are Networks?
Networks are groups of churches that are in reasonable geographic proximity to each other that exist to Care for one another, Connect to each other and Communicate with each other and the denomination.
Frequently Asked Questions
How do Networks operate?
Networks have avenues of input to the Governing Board and also participate in the development and delivery of resources to the churches in the Network.
Is it mandatory for a local church to be a member of a Network?
Yes, although churches can choose what activities, gatherings, etc. that they want to be involved in.
Can there be other kinds of Networks besides local churches assigned by geography and proximity?
Yes, these are referred to as Affinity Groups. Affinity groups are voluntary groups of churches and/or individuals that could be formed because of a shared interest and provide additional opportunities for connection and collaboration. An affinity group may invite an Elder to participate in or to support the affinity group but it will not be necessary to have an Elder involved. No formal approval will be needed to create an affinity group, unless the affinity group wishes to gain official recognition by MCC and be able to use the MCC name and logo. Recognition of affinity groups may be granted by the Council of Elders. Possible examples of affinity groups that might be formed include, but are not limited to, People of African Descent, Transgender Ministry Team, Disabilities Forum, Large‐Church Pastors, Chaplains, Retired Clergy.
What is the real role of Networks?
Networks are there to provide a way for churches and groups with shared interests to find connection and opportunities to collaborate. For Church Networks, the focus is on Connection (Relationship), Concern (Resourcing) and Cultivation (Growth).
What are Network Gatherings?
They are the planned gatherings for Network groups that happen yearly, sometimes several times a year. With input from the churches and in collaboration with the Office of Church Life and Health, Network Leaders plan times, locations and the purpose of the gatherings.
Do Networks serve in any governance capacity?
No. However, the Networks have open channels to input to the Council of Elders and the Governing Board.
Are Network Team Leaders appointed by an Elder?
They are appointed by the Director of the Office of Church Life and Health. Additionally, each Network Leader chooses a Network Team to work with them to serve the churches in their Network.
What is the role of the Network Leaders?
The Network Leaders role is:
- Communicate regularly with the churches in their Network
- Work with a Network Team to plan gatherings, visit churches and provide resources
- Offer input to the Elder on a variety of issues
- Channel information to the Elder about church needs, pastoral care concerns, possible flash points, etc.
- Support transferring information from the Elder to the churches
- Provide a connector between the denomination and the local church
How many Church Networks are there?
Currently, there are 21 but there could be more as we continue in the new structure and as Affinity Networks want to be formally recognized and the Council of Elders evaluate the current geographical configuration.
Upcoming Network Gatherings
Network Name | Date of Event | Location of Event | Registration Link |
South Gulf Coast | 6 – 7 March 2015 | MCC of New Orleans 3200 St. Charles Ave New Orleans, LA 70118 |
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Dr. Steven R. Patierno is Executive Director of the George Washington University Cancer Institute (GWCI); Director of the Molecular and Cellular Oncology Program, Professor of Pharmacology; Genetics and Urology in the School of Medicine and Health Science; and Professor of Environmental and Occupational Health in the School of Public Health and Health Services.
Dr. Patierno's research laboratory, which focuses on lung, prostate, breast, and skin cancers, has made major contributions to our understanding of the role genetic damage in the balance of cell death and survival. He is internationally recognized as a leading expert in cancer causation and carcinogenesis. In addition, his laboratory has explored the mechanisms of development of cancer cell resistance to chemotherapy and the development of bio-therapeutics that control the metastatic spread of cancer. Dr. Patierno's laboratory discovered the anti-cancer activity of a protein that is the subject of 11 U.S. patents and is currently under commercial development by a bio-pharmaceutical company as a molecularly targeted cancer therapeutic. In 1999, Dr. Patierno received the GW Distinguished Researcher Award.
He earned his doctoral degree at the Graduate School of Biomedical Science, University of Texas Health Science Center in Houston. At the MD Anderson Cancer Institute, where he worked on the genetics of cancer causation he was awarded the prestigious Rosalie B. Hite Graduate Fellowship in Cancer Research.
Dr. Patierno has authored over 100 scientific journal articles and book chapters. He is an accomplished teacher and mentor to many graduate students, postdoctoral fellows, and medical residents and was the founding Director of the GW Molecular and Cellular Oncology Ph.D. Program. He serves on the editorial boards of a number of scientific journals, has chaired many review panels for the National Institutes of Health and other government agencies, and is a member of the Scientific Advisory Board of several bio-pharmaceutical companies.
For his citywide leadership in the area of cancer disparities, Dr. Patierno recently received a Distinguished Public Service Award by the Breast Cancer Resource Committee, a Washington-based advocacy organization focused on cancer care among African Americans.
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TUCSON - A man was fatally shot just before midnight in a neighborhood near Irvington and Tucson.
A call to 911 was made just before 11:30 p.m. Wednesday about a person who was possibly shot in the 5200 Block of South Placita Brisa Grande, Tucson Police spokesman Sgt. Pete Dugan said in a release.
Officers arrived on scene and found 21-year-old Martin Jesus Echeverria-Garcia laying on the ground with gunshot trauma, Dugan said. He was taken to the hospital where he died.
A neighbor told police he saw another man with Echeverria-Garcia before officer arrived. The neighbor said that man left in a gold 4-door Toyota Camry or something similar, Dugan said.
Detectives believe the shooting happened at another location, Dugan said. Anyone with information is being asked to call 911 or 88-CRIME.
Echeverria-Garcia's death marks Tucson's ninth homicide this year.
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WASHINGTON, D.C. - In cooperation with the U.S. Consumer Product Safety Commission (CPSC), Protective Technologies International Inc. (PTI) of Yonkers, N.Y., is recalling 25,000 Jaguar bicycle helmets, model 3060. The helmet liners failed the manufacturer's head impact tests and may not prevent injuries.Jaguar white plastic helmets have 20 vent holes on the front, top and sides, a white plastic visor on the front, and black head and chin straps. The helmet is decorated with bright orange and yellow decals. A blue, square PTI label appears on the back of the helmet. The helmets were sold nationwide for $23.00 to $25.00 exclusively at Toys 'R' Us and Target Stores from September 1994 to January 1995. PTI Jaguar helmets manufactured since February 1995 which have a 1995 date sticker and a QC sticker inside are not affected by this recall.Consumers who own affected helmets should call PTI at (800) 515-0074 to receive a UPS tag to return the helmet to the company. PTI will send consumers a new helmet that meets safety standards.
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Open every day
Tel.: +34 95 280 6231
This wonderful restaurant is located at a quiet Square in the middle of old town Estepona. It has many dining tables outside for the summer, but even in winter it is very charming with hand-painted flowers and shells on the walls.
Tel.: +34 95 280 6231
Address: Plaza de Arce 23, 29680 Estepona
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Open every day
12h - 24h
Kitchen open 12.30h - 16h / 19h - 23.30h
Average Price (starter, main & dessert): 16€
Starters: 5€ - 7€
Main course: 7€ - 12€
Dessert: as of 3.50€ home made
Wine: 9€ house wine
Menu of the day: No, but often moroccon specialities
Children's menu: No
VAT: included
Parking: use parking garage at beach
Outside seating: on square
Credit cards: cash only please
With its beautiful fountain and Seville orange trees, the Plaza de Dr. Arce is a delightful place to sit, relax and people-watch. As of August 2009 the opening of MaduBar Fusion restaurant has enriched this Plaza. The restaurant consists of several rooms over two floors as well as outside dining tables. The beautiful painted pink flower climbing up the wall and intertwining itself around the name of the restaurant is the first thing you see as you approach MaduBar and when you walk in you'll see that this theme has been continued and the walls are hand painted with flowers, animals and shells. Each room is individually decorated displaying the magnificent taste of the owners who also run the shop diagonally opposite, which specializes in all kinds of accessories of interior decoration. A small inside patio with a skylight is the perfect place, in addition to the bar, to sit and simply enjoy a glass of wine.
All food is freshly prepared with local produce and the white house wine is delicious. We ordered a mojito to start with and it was perfect. All the toppings for the toasts are served on warm, crunchy, fresh bread are beautifully presented with a small side salad. It may seem unusual to see scrambled eggs on a dinner menu but this is very typical of Southern Spain and the eggs with black pudding, apple and pine nuts, served with a small salad is a must. The pork dishes are exclusively made with Iberian pork and very tasty. Wraps, burgers, grilled vegetables and seafood are also available. No matter what you choose, you can't go wrong in MaduBar.
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Ron Kampeas Reports: Why on earth, considering what we know about Gertrude Stein and her dalliances with Nazis, would the White House cite her in a presidential proclamation marking Jewish American Heritage Month?
From the proclamation:
From Aaron Copland to Albert Einstein, Gertrude Stein to Justice Louis Brandeis, generations of Jewish Americans have brought to bear some of our country's greatest achievements and forever enriched our national life.
The timing is particularly ironic given the current controversy over the Gertrude Stein-related exhibition at New York's Metropolitan Museum of Art. In response to complaints that the exhibit ignored the writer's relationship with fascism, the museum is now changing its exhibit.
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I looked up Wikipidia, and they have this quote from stein: "I say that Hitler ought to have the peace prize, because he is removing all the elements of contest and of struggle from Germany. By driving out the Jews and the democratic and Left element, he is driving out everything that conduces to activity. That means peace … By suppressing Jews … he was ending struggle in Germany," (New York Times Magazine, May 6, 1934).[


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gopilot1 Posts: 10Can anyone comment on the price quote of 21,995 + Tax/TTL for an Accord EX-L (4cy, Sedan). Just got a quote from a Seattle area dealer and was told that the incentives they have running on Accords don't apply to the EX-L 4cy. Many of the other Accords have the 1K-2K dealer incentive but we want to get the EX-L and want better gas mileage.
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gotmycar Posts: 8I just purchased my 2008 Honda Accord EXL V6 with Navi. The purchase price for the car was 28870 + 5% state sales tax ($1443.50) + doc and registration ($252.50) = $30566 out the door price. My friend manages a large Honda store out of state and told me this would be impossible so near launch of the car, but I have the car and the bill of sale to prove it!
I shopped for months before the car was launched and did the e-mail thing with the local dealers. By the way, I only did the e-mail with the dealers that would put quotes in writing. (Beware of dealers that only use the internet to get you into the showroom.)
When the car hit the dealers, no one would sell for less than MSRP. I started to realize from reading these forums that local markets have a strong bearing on price. So I looked for an out of market dealer, and I ended up finding a dealer (1 1/2 hour drive from our home -- each way), who had one EXL V6 Navi and he really wanted to sell the car. We agreed on the price, we got in our Pilot and I showed up and several hours later was driving home with our new car.
I have driven many cars, and I have to say this could be the perfect car for the money. Wow, Honda! I just wish Honda put as much into making sure the local dealers were honest. After talking to all of them, I was convinced I would never be able to trust their numbers, or buy a car and feel good about it, or not have to fight with the business manager.
With this out of market dealer, I got a very fair deal, took a car he'd have difficulty selling, and realized that there are honest and fair people in the car business. Try going out of your local market and you may just have the good luck we did. -
gotmycar Posts: 8I was quoted $27495 for an 08 Accord Sedan EXL V6 w/ Navi. This is below the invoice for the car with destination.
I asked myself, how are they selling a car with an almost $31K MSRP for under the invoice at this time, so close to launch? It was just too good to be true. I ended up going to another dealer and paying $28870, plus tax and fees, for an out the door price of $30,566.
I've never believed these lowball prices, they will hit you up with all kinds of random fees when you go to buy the car, or get you with a high interest rate if you finance with them. Even if you get it in writing, it is unlikely that the business manager will honor your deal. -
gotmycar Posts: 8No trade, no money down. In fact, before we signed the contract, the business manager spoke with us about loans.
We filled out the American Honda credit application (I would not fill out a general credit application so they could sell some other loan where they'd make more money), and after 5 minutes he came back with a 5.99 percent rate for 60 months.
We took this loan to buy the car, but this was after the price on the car was agreed to. -
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gotmycar Posts: 8Mass. I told the dealer I was going to post the deal on this site, and he asked that I not identify the store by name. The price was an "e-price". He told me it would have been different had I walked in the showroom. He said that he had more flexibility with e-customers. The clear message in the conversation was that e-customers are more educated and are ready to buy.
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skatermom23 Posts: 4I am one happy camper today! I just picked up my 07 Accord EX-L V-6 in the color I wanted for $3300 below invoice! It took lots of negotiations but I wanted to let others know what I got, so that it might help you. Also included were pin stripes, front and rear mud guards, wheel locks, Door guards, Wheel well guards and a trunk tray! I'm very happy and more so because the dealer had everything ready for me and I was in and out in one hour 20 minutes!
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srizvi1 Posts: 233I'm mainly looking for an '07 civic coupe auto w/ nav, but will consider an '07 accord w/ nav if I can get the right price. Here are two internet quotes i've gotten around the dc/baltimore area:
Dealer #1:
2007 Honda Accord, Silver Sedan Automatic w/ Nav. The price is $22,995 + $595 Freight + $100 processing fee + tax + tags $195 = $25,069 OTD
Dealer #2:
2007 cool blue 2007 exl-nav coupe automatic
22,594 plus tax, tags, freight $635, process fee $100, and dealer installed options if any.
My lowball offer for these cars would be $23,0xx and I forget what my target price is (there's a formula I followed on slickdeals.net for it).
If I can get the Accord for or around my lowball price, then I'll get it. Otherwise, I have a 2007 Honda Civic auto coupe w/ nav I can go for at the most (i say at the most because I haven't started negotiating this price yet) $19,390 + tax and tags.
so let' see what happens -
carquote1 Posts: 23Anyone have any advice and or suggestions regarding my post #17363? Some help as soon as possible would be greatly appreciated. I keep receiving quotes a little over $23,000 So I'm not sure how some are getting this car for much less. Should I make an offer and if so how much should I offer?
kiawah Posts: 3,666Carquote1,
You don't say what area of the country you are in. For all but the two very competitive CA and DC areas (which might go sporadically lower), if you can get the car for 2K under invoice, you should jump on it. 2007 inventories and selections are dwindling fast, and they are great values if you can pick one up.
If you want to try for lower and you are indifferent about whether you actually get a 2007 or not, then YOU propose a take it or leave it offer. Write them an OTD offer and hand it to them, if they don't accept you walk. Go to another dealer and try same price or higher, repeat process. At some point you run out of dealerships or have bought a car. -
trs900 Posts: 19I need a deal like this, wonder why they would sell for this price even over the net as it looks to be under invoice, my local dealer said no way would they even consider this price as they would lose money along with some dealers I contacted in Georgia..personally I would like to see them lose money on my deal, they can make it up on someone else..LOL.. I have a friend who transports cars from the North East to Florida ( I actually have a car coming from Mass right now-antique) and if I knew who the dealer was I would contact him by email so I could get this deal also..
kiawah Posts: 3,666Try it, the worst they can say is no thanks and kick you out. They have autos to sell, and you are one of some number of buyers. If you have your heart set on a particular car, or a particular dealership, then I wouldn't be fooling around too much or wasting too much of your own time.
If getting that extra 100 bucks is so important to you, and you have nothing better to do with your time, and you are indifferent as to whether you get a 2007 with the features you want and the color you want, and don't mind driving an hour away to try to save a 100 bucks, then go for it. You may find a particular dealer and a particular salesman who just needs one more car to get some bonus. On the other hand, you may not and have to leave to go elsewhere.
Nobody understands your situation better than you, but there comes a point in time where it's not worth it for you to try to save an extra buck. Likewise there comes a point in time for the dealership that they'll deem your deal not worth it and they'll just sell it to the next person in the door...whether they come in tomorrow or next week/month.
The best time to have bought a 2007 was about at least a month ago when the deals were as good as now, and supply was high. You're on the otherside of the hump now, and you should be seeing less inventory choices available.
You can worry yourself to death forever, wondering if you could have gotten an extra 50 off. You won't find a great value deal like 2007 accords for another 5 years. -
jaxs1 Posts: 2,697Everything you said could also be flipped around on the dealer as to whether it is "worth their time" to start over spending more hours of multiple employees time to find and deal with a new, serious and financially qualified customer when they're are only $50 to $100 away from making a deal on a $24,000 car and have a qualified buyer who is ready to buy right now sitting in front of them.
jet10000 Posts: 656I need a deal like this, wonder why they would sell for this price even over the net as it looks to be under invoice,
I don't see that the price that was quoted in post# 17368 was under invoice. $28,870
My estimate for invoice is 90% of MSRP.
$30,260 @ 90% = $27,234 plus $635 destination= $27,869.
So I think the dealer sold it for $1,000 over invoice. -
kiawah Posts: 3,666I agree. Thats why I say to try it.... make a written OTD offer to the dealer. Worst they can say is no, and if they do, you move on. He offers a quick deal, no haggling. If it fits within their deal making profile and the wind is blowing in the right direction, they may take it. Or when he walks, they might call back the next day. Put it in writing, leave name and phone number.
trs900 Posts: 19I was referring to the qouted price of $25,415 for an 2008 Accord EXL-6.. I usually figure destination into dealer's invoice so when someone says under invoice it includes destination since it is on window sticker.. maybe I missed something, if not this price is very good, I will be happy to give any dealer $25,415 for 08 EXL-6 plus Florida sales tax and tag transfer, heck I'll even give them a dealer fee of $500 on top of price as long as it happens today or tomorrow. I like a total price from dealer including rip off fees if any, but not including actual tax I must pay to state and tag cost determined by Florida, that way I can shop the price anywhere in the country knowing I will have to add only state tax and tag fees when I register it..


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This is a listing of the 4-H Youth Development events that usually occur every year in Jefferson County and the East Central Missouri region. Current event information will be posted as it becomes available; until then information from the previous year will be available. For information about Missouri State sponsored 4-H Events: http://extension.missouri.edu/4h/
JANUARY4-H Energizer (formerly known as Leadership Day) (PDF)Hatching Chicks in the Classroom Enrollment (PDF)4-H Council Meeting
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4-H Camp - Information Letter and Registration Form 2014 (PDF), Camp Counselor Application 2014 (PDF) | (DOC)4-H Monster Day Camp - Flier (PDF), Registration (fillable PDF) 4-H Council Meeting
JULYJefferson County Fair - Judging Information, Fair Book (PDF) and 4-H and Home Ec Building Watch Volunteer Schedule (PDF)4-H Council Meeting
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4-H brings young people, ages 5 to 19, and adults together to learn everyday skills through hands-on learning. Working on activities from animal and plant sciences to robotics, 4-H'ers learn problem-solving skills that can make a positive impact upon our community. Through 4-H, young people learn to:
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With projects on more than 75 topics, 4-H has something to interest every child. Here are just a few of the opportunities 4-H offers—geocaching, robotics, international exchanges, horsemanship, pets, starting a business, arts and crafts, raising animals, woodworking, photography and gardening.
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Here at Crave, we tend to be skeptical about creative vacuuming solutions. There was that "Buster" prototype , which looked like more of a way for kids to terrorize pets than for a house to get cleaned. And then there are the "chic" vacuums that look like lawn gnomes . And now here's the latest, thanks to BornRich: a remote-controlled vacuum shaped like a NASCAR race car. It even comes with audio features to make it sound like it's straight out of Talladega Nights. I admit, I may be too much of a yuppie to understand the appeal of having lots of NASCAR-branded merchandise (then again, I don't really get NFL laptop skins either) but I think it's a little much. On the other hand, it might be just what the ESPN-addict crowd needs to actually get some housekeeping done.
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- GrowaSet
- December 21, 2012 - 17:46
Hmmm..... If there wasn't a Gag order in place for all Staff at the Court House perhaps we could here from Judge Pike's wife who is also a Judge on the "INFESTED 4th". I'm sure this dapper lady is just tickled pink to know that the hallways and offices surrounding her very own office have tested positive for these harmless critters? Well harmless as long as you don't mind a female laying 1000 eggs and using you as a host to feed on in the comfort of your very own BED! Merry Christmas staff at Provincial Court! Time for you guys and every other renter in Atlantic Place to unite and walk out. If those bugs are on the "INFESTED 4th" they are on the other floors too....
- Judy
- December 21, 2012 - 12:58
If Judge Mark Pike finds any bed bugs carried to his home unbeknownst to him, such as in his briefcase, boots, etc., I bet it will change his opinion.
- Mom
- December 22, 2012 - 08:35
Just wait until the schools get them. There are a few students who go to court. And they will carry the bedbugs into schools. Guarenteed.
- Marg
- December 21, 2012 - 08:28
These horrible bugs will EVENTUALLY spread all over the City and other areas, especially to those who cannot afford to have their apartments or houses sprayed or fumigated. What a sickening thought. They are worse than earwigs.
- noones business
- December 21, 2012 - 00:39
suck it up princess,alot of us are exposed to stuff we dont want to be.
- Jerome
- December 20, 2012 - 20:37
If you do only the fourth floor, that will just send them to other floors and areas.
- bernard
- December 20, 2012 - 19:35
Yes boy,and could do Goverbment House at the same
- SleepTight
- December 20, 2012 - 19:26
I know someone VERY close to this whole shimozzle and let it be known that this has been ongoing now for WEEKS! Employees at Provincial Court from administration staff to the Sheriffs Officers have been under a pseudo Gag order to not discuss the findings and the widespread severity of the problem. The fact is the bugs are everywhere on the 4th floor from the courts to the holding cells to mgmt's offices. NO ONE has wanted to assume any responsibility of handling this situation properly, right from the onset. Employees spoke of walking off the job and that notion was met with threats of discipline from superiors on several levels of government. Ignorance has also been alive and well in this fiasco...one area where 15-20 Sheriffs work and congregate presented positive findings for the critters, yet NO ONE from their superiors including the High Sheriff have even ventured into their facility to assure them that things are in being done to address concerns. At a cost of Approx. $3400 to have your house checked and cleaned if necessary, no one will give any of the staff an answer on who will endure this cost. Merry Christmas Court Staff, Sleep Tight and don't let those Bed Bugs BITE...
- david
- December 20, 2012 - 17:28
Suck it up, buttercup...or get another job --- one that better suits your delicate sensibilities.
- carogers
- December 21, 2012 - 15:24
Ok David, your lack of education in simple matters is showing. Bedbugs are not a matter to be "sucked up" by anyone, nor should they be present in the workplace. Get out the dictionary and look up infestation...ya know like...out of control parasites crawling around...this is not a bit of mud on your shoe, these are using human blood to live. Dictionary says they "live off a host" the workers are expected to be productive in that kind of environment? If you think bedbugs are ok to live with I'm sure your idea of "clean" is different then most.
- corrupt to the bone
- December 20, 2012 - 16:46
fumigate the court you say, the complete justice system needs to be fumigated, to get rid of the bed bug corruption that lies within.
- CARogers
- December 20, 2012 - 16:15
Well the employees can thank the health department for not responding to the bedbug infestation at the low income apartment complex. All parties refused to deal with the issue the landlord NLHC Dept of Social Services and the health department all passed the buck. Naturally with so many apartments affected eventually somone would transfer the bugs from their clothing onto a fabric type chair (for example) in a public building. When the buck was being passed it should have stopped once the paid employees who were responsible for public health were informed of the situation. This problem was not addressed by business people involved the landl lord and NLHC with their financial concerns a priorty. They decided to let the problem be some one elses issue and did nothing while knowing the residents were low income, undereducated and some even in care of social workers, even the public health department did not come forward and explain how to contain the problem, it was let to move out into the community. If this was a case of an infectious disease half St. John's would be dead or dying.
- Eli
- December 20, 2012 - 15:13
It would be appropriate at this time to fumigate the government side of the House of Assembly. God, it needs it.
- Court Watcher
- December 20, 2012 - 14:57
If the courts handled the cases of all these scumbags in one appearance, it would reduce risk; instead, we see the same old gang of louts and repeat offenders, day after day.


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The sinkhole, which opened up next to the road sometime Monday afternoon, July 7, measured about 100 feet across and about 15-20 feet deep. It claimed about half of one lane and sent cracks radiating across the rest of the road.
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2013 and earlier-Acura RDX Prices Paid and Buying Experience
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bybchucky Posts: 2Thank you to everyone on the forum for posting prices. It gave me great leverage when it came to pricing things out at the dealer and making sure my purchase price was fair.
My OTD was $39300, including a 6% MD tax, $190 title/tags fee, $195 dealer fee, and $100 all weather mats.
My dealer was Rosenthal Acura in Gaithersburg, MD, and my sales person was Kenneth Chang.
Thank you.
For all those interested, I also purchased a 2013 ILX Tech the same day for an OTD of $29100, with the same tax rate and fees and mat prices above. -
billy3554 Posts: 148Have purchased two new vehicles at Rosenthal. With research a good deal is certainly attainable. One observation, for both purchases Rosenthal reduced the agreed upon price to compensate for the dealer documentation charge. Clearly they were not going to let a deal walk for a $195 bogus charge.
ericlee Posts: 1First of all, I want to thank this forum for giving me confidence to make a deal. Without the info I got from here, i wouldnt even know where to start. I just made the purchase for 2014 AWD RDX with technology package, window tint, all weather floor mat, cargo cover, cargo trey. 6.25% state tax. After all said and done final price is 40k OTD. It may not be the best deal but I am very happy with it.
On a side note, instead of 1.9% 60 months promotional interest, I was also able to negotiate it down to 1.69%. Not a significant discount but a nice surprise. Best luck to those who are currently looking. -
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patm70 Posts: 20mulj, If cheepa26 was able to buy a 2014 RDX AWD with Tech for $36,690 out the door with destination, fees, taxes (9%-$2700-3000.), etc., I will eat my hat!!! The MSRP with $895. destination is $40,515. To pay $36,690 out the door would mean the purchase price was $33, 600. for a 2014 AWD with Tech. Around seven thousand below sticker for a 2014 RDX. I don't think so!!
dcarea Posts: 3I previously used this thread to search for a good price. I really couldn't find a solid number for the non-tech RDX with or without AWD. So, I did my own negotiating in the D.C. area.
I went to 3 places. First place claimed it was impossible to sell below invoice. Hogwash. I left.
Second place said they don't need to sell it for much less than invoice. Leaving was another easy decision.
Third place I ended up buying a 14 RDX FWD w/o tech for $31365 including destination ($33325 is invoice, $35.4K MSRP). I financed at 1.9% for 60 months. The price is before tax, tags, and dealer processing fee. Yeah, it's the base model, but I think I squeezed quite a bit out of them.
Just my opinions (take them or leave them): AWD didn't matter to me, I could have purchased one with AWD and just pay the $1400 difference (but they didn't have the right color) - the $$ spent on the AWD will be recouped with its resale value. The tech isn't worth the price (almost $4K). I had a TL and I actually bought the tech, because IMHO it was worth it on the TL... however, the RDX already comes standard with backup camera, Bluetooth, pushbutton start, good sound system. I just couldn't justify throwing a few grand at a sub-par (it honestly is) navigation system (w/ subscription based features I didn't use in the TL), slightly better sound system, foglamps, etc. -
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karhill1 Posts: 115Since 2011, I have purchased three Acura vehicles in the DC area. I found Rosenthal, Norris, Pohanka, and Radley offer the best purchase experience. During my purchases those dealers were consistent in offering the lowest prices in the area.
I purchased from Norris and Rosenthal due to the lower doc fees in Maryland compared to Virginia. However, the doc fees were considered in the price I paid. They were not added after the price was negotiated.
During each purchase, I contacted Tischer, Criswell, and Chevy Chase Acura. IMHO, none of those dealers seemed to offer a favorable purchase environment.
For example, Criswell provided a price in response to my email inquiry. That price was considerable higher than price quotes from the four dealers noted above. Of course I advised the sales folks at Criswell of those prices. The Criswell folks never bothered to respond. One reason why I purchased three vehicles elsewhere. -
row2 Posts: 3I am getting this vehicle for 39546 OTD which would include :
Cost of car 36200
Tax 2534( NJ)
Fees 414
Is this a good deal? Please let me know
Also for a lease I have the following deal
Cash 4000
36 mths 428.65 including taxes(10000 miles)
residual 23469
Selling price of car 36200
Let me know if this is a good deal.
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rafal72 Posts: 1I am in the process to get the quotes for 14k AWD w/o Tech package and I need advice how to handle accessories. I am shooting for roof rail + crossbar, along with fog light, all season floor matts and cargo cover+net. Would it be better for me to disclose these upfront or should I wait to the very last minute and request these to be thrown in with heavy discount. I would like to hear how you handle such situations. Thx in advance
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dennism5 Posts: 9Hi guys,
I am in the market to buy a new car. Currently, I have narrowed it down to two cars:
1. 2014 Acura RDX AWD W/Tech (MSRP $40515)
2. 2013 Lexus RX 350 AWD with these packages: Lexus Display/Audio, Comfort package, Premium package W/Blind Spot plus some minor accessories. (MSRP $48000)
There is about a $7.5K price difference between the two cars but I want to see how much of a discount I can get for each car to see if the price difference goes down.
I am from the Chicagoland area (7% tax). What is a good deal for these cars? I would appreciate any help in this matter.
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newro Posts: 19Have a 2013 RDX no tech package, app. 6k miles. Notice that when at highway speed, 65mph plus there is a high pitched whine coming from the front. If you let off the gas, it gets lower. Not sure if its the tires on different road surfaces, the plastic where fog lights would go or what. Anyone have a similar experience? Thanks
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kyfdx Posts: 31,966You might get a response from a current owner if you try the general RDX discussion, here:
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dennism5 Posts: 9Hi,
I have been shopping around for the 2014 RDX AWD with Tech package in the Chicagoland area and the best quote I have gotten from dealers is $41000 OTD (includes everything and 7% tax). I think if I go to a dealership, I can get that price down a little more to around $40600-700. Is that a good deal? Or just average?
I have seen people here getting deals for around 39500 OTD with comparable tax rate but is that the norm or are those exceptionally great deals?
I am not in a hurry to purchase the vehicle (can wait till the end of the month). Would I get a better deal then? How should I approach dealers during the end of the month? Currently, a few dealers refused to provide me with an OTD price unless I come to the dealership and a couple only offered to beat the discount on the best written deal I had by another 10%
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Name: Richard Status: other Grade: other Location: RI Country: USA Date: Fall 2011
What is the formula for determining the distance away an object is, given the apparent size versus the actual size? For example, an airplane flying overhead. I live near an airport and curiosity got me thinking about this. It might be one inch to my retina versus say, a thousand feet long actually. What is it's distance away?
Hi Richard,
You can first estimate the angular diameter of the object in your view. That is the length or diameter of the object in terms of angular units (e.g., degrees). For example, both the moon and the sun are about 0.5 degrees in diameter from our vantage point on Earth. The distance from horizon to horizon would be 180 degrees. Estimating the angular diameter may not be very easy and can be prone to error. Since the moon is very familiar, you can estimate the object in terms of how many moons in length/diameter it is, then convert to degrees.
Now if you know the actual length or diameter of the object you are looking at, you can use simple trigonometry to figure out the distance. The tangent of half the angular distance you estimated above (let us call that "a") would be equal to half the actual diameter or length (let us call that "d") divided by the actual distance (let us call that "D").
So, if we draw out the triangles we can see that tan(a/2) = (d/2) / D
or, D = (d/2) / tan(a/2)
For example, we know the moon is about 3476 km. So then D = 1738 km / tan(0.25 deg) = 398,000 km. And that turns out pretty close to the known average distance to the moon which is 384,000 km.
You can use this same procedure another way. Say you hold your left arm straight out in front of you and stick out your index finger to the right so you can see it clearly. You measure the distance from your eye to your finger and it is 45 cm. You measure the thickness of your finger and it is 1.5 cm. This means there is a factor of 30 when you use your finger as a measuring guide. So if you see an airplane fly directly overhead, and you use your measuring finger to see that your finger just barely covers the wing, and you know the wing is 33 foot span, then you can quickly estimate that the airplane is about 1000 feet overhead. If the plane is two fingers in span, then its 500 feet above you. If half your finger is enough to cover the plane, then its 2000 feet above you.
Regards, John C. Strong
Hello Richard,
Good observation.
It is a matter of the ratio of triangles where:
The ratio of the perceived dimensions = The ratio of the real dimensions.
First you calculate the perceived dimensions, and since you know one "real" dimension ( the length of the plane), you can then solve for the last dimension - the distance.
Plot on a sheet of paper the flight path of the plane overhead, and note each time the plane travels its length as perceived by your eye, until you record, say about 10 of them.
Then, draw a line from the point of origin, where the plane started overhead, to this 10th point you plotted and label this line X. Measure and record the length of X. If to your eye, the plane is 1" long, then your line X should be approximately 12".
Then on that same sheet of paper, draw a vertical line from the point where the plane started overhead, down to your home, and label that distance Y.
Next draw a line from the 10th point the plane traveled to your home and label that line H.
Now measure the angle between the vertical line Y and the line H. You can call this angle Theta. The reason for plotting 10 points is to get a good angle measurement.,
Also from Trig, the Tangent of an Angle = distance opposite the angle / distance adjacent to the angle. The distance opposite the angle is the distance the plane traveled, and the distance adjacent is the distance over your head. So in your picture, tan(Theta) = X/Y.
If you perceived the plane length to be 1"' then the measured distance traveled, X, on your paper, should be 12". From there, then the distance overhead can be calculated by rearranging the equation above to solve for Y:
Y = X / tan(Theta)
Now the matter of ratios; but before that, we have to divide X by 10. Remember we plotted 10 plane lengths to get a good measurement of angle Theta.
Equate Z=X/10, in your case Z=1.2"
Now we have dimensions for two triangles. One the perceived triangle and the other the "real" triangle.
The ratio of the perceived dimensions (Z/Y) is equivalent to the ratio of the "real" dimensions (Plane's length / Distance overhead).
Rearranging, we get: Distance Overhead = Plane's Length / (Z/Y)
With that, we get Distance = 1000 feet / (1.2/20) is approximately 16,000 Feet.
Sounds about right given the floor (minimum height) restriction for a residental area is typically 10,000 to 15,000 feet. You can confirm by asking any pilot or look at flight maps, or call the airport! =)
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My Kindle lending library book for the month is Dead Is the New Black by CD Reiss. It is a mystery set in the fashion industry, which is neat because it gives some insight into the business of fashion. One of the reasons I choose this book was that the very first line in the book description stated that the book was "completely smut and sex-free" which is nice because I'm here to read a mystery not a romance novel.
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Joe and I ended up watching the Oscars. I didn't expect to watch it (the only nominated movies I saw this year were cartoons) but it was a fun time. I really liked Matthew Mcconaughey's speech.
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True-Dose Gel Fresh For Dogs and Cats - 2 oz
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