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Ok I admit im addicted to McDonalds new Sweet Tea...I go the drive thru only for that! Now I ve made tea all my life with tea bags sugar and lemon and chilled it in the refigerator but this taste totally different the kids love it too! Whats the secret trick...if there is one...I thought it had Corn Syrup in it instead of sugar..LOL!!! |
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- Posted by sayhellonow (My Page) on Tue, May 6, 08 at 11:10
Well, I'm Southern (by the grace of God), although transplanted to the West (lovit too). They have a thing out here about saying "Sweet Tea" almost like a joke: "Do you drink *sweetea*? - almost as if it is some kind of colloquialism, and maybe it has become that. Sweet tea in the South to my knowledge is only tea with sugar, as opposed to unsweetened tea. That's it as far as I know. But it will be interesting to see what some of you current Southern cooks have to say. |
Eileen I live in North Carolina where sweet tea is consumed more than water. I was born and raised in Pa. and have been drinking unsweet tea all my life. I find that if I get sweet tea by mistake I can't drink it, it's just too sweet. I have been told by many local restaurants that they use a simple syrup and add it to their tea. I don't know if that is the difference or not. Gina |
- Posted by bumblebeez (My Page) on Tue, May 6, 08 at 12:17
I do prefer Luzianne tea bags or brands specifically for iced tea. I make it strong because the ice cubes in a glass dilute it. To a 4-5 quarts I use 6 family sized tea bags and 1-2 cups sugar. In a stock pot, I add sugar while the water is boiling then add the tea bags (remove the tags) and let it steep all day on the counter. Or overnight. I don't measure the water or sugar so it's a guesstimate. |
- Posted by eileenlaunonen (My Page) on Tue, May 6, 08 at 12:33
Thanks thats similar to how I make mine Bumblebeez butI think that a simple syrup may be the change in flavor...hmmm...Ill have to try it and see. |
- Posted by heyreub (email@example.com) on Tue, May 6, 08 at 13:21
I have lived in the South all my life and Sweet Tea is on all tables in Georgia (Home and Restaurants). I was told that sweet tea was created back during WWII because sugar was rationed and it took more sugar to sweeten cold tea than hot tea, therefore the it was presweetened. Sweet Tea* Bring to a boil about 10 cups of water with the 3 teabags then turn the heat off and let the tea sit for about an hour. Add the sugar to the brewed tea, and finish filling a gallon pitcher with water. Keeping the refrigerator as It can sour if kept out too long and has a tendency to become sweeter if kept into the second day. Some add lemon/mint/oranges, but just pour it over a big glass of ice. |
- Posted by teresa_nc7 (My Page) on Tue, May 6, 08 at 15:14
Don't think we let the tea brew for as long as an hour, all day or overnight. Just checked with my mom who makes tea every day, year 'round, and she steeps her teabags in the boiling water for about 5 minutes. We think the tea tastes 'stewed' if it steeps for a long time. |
- Posted by virginia7074 (My Page) on Tue, May 6, 08 at 17:56
My southern neighbor brought iced tea to my house one night and I asked her for her secret. She said her grandmother taught her to boil 4 cups of water and add 6 Lipton tea bags to it (assuming these are regular-size tea bags) and let them stand for 30 seconds. Don't squeeze them, or the tea will be bitter. Then add 4 cups of cold water. I've been making my own variation, adding 3 family-size Lipton tea bags and letting them steep for about a minute. (Not very long, but maybe I'll gradually start bumping that up.) So far, it's been tasting good. |
- Posted by eileenlaunonen (My Page) on Wed, May 7, 08 at 8:07
Great tips thanks!! |
Eileen, Here are the ingredients from the McDonalds website: Water, sugar, orange pekoe and pekoe cut black tea And FYI, a large has 230 calories. Since I'm pretty sure the tea itself is only a few calories, the rest of that is coming from sugar. I'm going to guess that's about 15 teaspoons. Tracey |
- Posted by virginia7074 (My Page) on Fri, May 9, 08 at 23:15
At lunch today, some of us were drinking regular Coke and some of us were drinking Diet Coke. Diet Coke is the nectar of the gods to me; Coke tastes too sweet. Don't get me wrong, though - I'm no prude when it comes to dessert! A 20-ounce bottle of Coke has 250 calories. Of course, most people drink the entire bottle - yet, a serving size is 12 ounces. |
OK, so I'm not southern by birth, but I have lived in Tennessee and currently live in Texas, so I've tasted a variety of sweet tea recipes. Here's one my mom and I (both tea lovers) have developed. -Bring 4 c. water to a boil You can always add more simple syrup to taste at this point. I would recommend simple syrup over granulated sugar because it keeps the sweetness more uniform. For an especially cooling summer variety of this tea, muddle about 1 c. of crushed mint leaves with the simple syrup before adding it to the tea. Then strain the whole tea mixture through a sieve to strain out the leaves, pressing the leaves to really squeeze out that minty flavor. Mmm. |
It will also make a big difference in taste if you sweeten the tea while it is still hot and let it sit for an hour or so before pouring over ice. My ice tea goes with me everywhere I go. My DD gave me a bookmark that says -"Nothing comes between me and my iced tea." And that's about the truth. Even when I travel my tea equipment goes with me. Beverly |
When we had dinner at my son's apartment he served us beautiful, unclouded iced tea. He puts the tea bags in cold water and lets it sit in the fridge over night (or however long, or depth of color desire). When I make tea, I use boiling water, add tea bags and allow to completely cool off. Then remove tea bags.I like a sweetener in mine, and hubby likes regular sugar, so the tea is served in glasses at the table. We both add a touch of cranberry juice and a touch of lemon. Don't think this comes under the catagory of "Southern Tea", but iced tea is an individual thing....according to the maker's taste and choice. |
- Posted by plantersvilletx (My Page) on Fri, Jun 27, 08 at 1:38
I used to sell Luzianne tea before I retired and one of the selling points was that it doesnt get cloudy when put in the fridge overnight like Lipton does. |
- Posted by jessicavanderhoff (My Page) on Tue, May 19, 09 at 14:56
I'm also a bit mystified by the whole "southern sweet tea" concept. It's just disgustingly sweet iced tea!! It does not deserve a special name!! And simple syrup is just sugar dissolved in water. If you're adding the sugar while the tea is hot (and, why wouldn't you?) it all comes out the same. I think McDonalds sweet tea is vile, but to each his own, I guess. |
Having been born and reared in Alabama, I've drank "Southern style sweet tea" all my life. My great-grandmother,grandmother,mom and now me have all made our tea the same way for generations. We bring our teabags to a fast rolling boil ( we use 6 regular size bags ) and then turn the heat down and let it simmer gently for approx. 30 minutes. Remove the teabags ( do not squeeze them ! ) and pour the tea into a gallon container. Add one and a half cups of sugar and stir well. Let sit for 30 minutes. Gradually add cold water to the container stirring well the whole time. You can taste test and add more suger if you like, but just remember that if the whole gallon isn't going to be drank in one sitting, it will get very sweet sitting over-night in the fridge. Southern sweet tea is certainly not disgusting or vile and here in the South it does rate high enough to deserve it's own name. Probably even a Title of some kind.. lol ! We love our sweet tea and a lot of love goes along with all that sugar in making it .. and yes, it's a "to each his own" thing ... :<) |
I'm Southern by marriage. My DSisIL makes the best tea. She only uses Luizanne and about 6 family bags to a gallon. The whole trick is to put the sugar in with the teabags while the water is still really hot. That helps it melt. After about 20 minutes, she removes the teabags and pours it into a gallon container and fills it with cold water. It's delish! Sometimes she puts water in her coffee pot and the teabags in the carafe and let it run it's cycle. Tastes just as good. |
- Posted by teresa_nc7 (My Page) on Sat, May 30, 09 at 13:55
Another thing about Southerners and their sweet tea....many of us drink it all through the year, not just in the hot summer months. My dad wants iced tea (which is "sweet" tea) on the table at lunch and dinner and so mom would make it fresh each day. When I was a kid, we went to NYC and traveled over to New Jersey one day. We asked for iced tea and received a tea cup and saucer with hot water, a tea bag, and an ice cube! My little sisters and I had a good chuckle over that! I bought some Luzianne tea bags just last week. That brand really does make quite good iced tea, only, I never let a tea bag steep over 5 minutes and I add the sugar/splenda after I remove the tea bag but while the tea is still quite hot. |
"Vile" is in the eye/taste of the beholder. Depends on what you were raised with. I am Southern, born and raised, and tea to us is sweet and cold. I use to make it like most of you do - steep the bags in the hot/boiling water. Then, I started making it using the Sun way. My husband, who is as Southern as anyone can be, makes the tea now using my newest method. We simply get tap water as hot as we can, pour the sugar in, stir well, add the tea bags, stir gently, and let sit for about an hour. We make it in a gallon jug. Surprisingly, its as good as steeping the tea and will not cloud in the refrigerator. If you want, you can leave the tea bags in and it will get stronger. |
I've made Southern Sweet Tea and California Sun Tea. The trick, to me, is the way it is steeped. I never let my water boil. I bring it to the brink of boiling. I add my sugar(if I am making for my wife, as I drink mine totally unsweetened. I pour it over the bags and steep for exactly 5 minutes. Anymore and you run the chance of it getting bitter. Then Dilute. I don't touch it until it gets completely cold. Sun tea is simple. Add teabags to a one gallon glass jar and fill with COLD water. Set in sunny location for 8 hours. Sweeten with simple syrup, if you must. Enjoy. |
- Posted by jenfinger77 (My Page) on Wed, Jun 3, 09 at 13:09
This site pretty much gets it right: http://www.learninghowtocook.com/blog/2009/06/the-art-of-iced-tea/ I think the reason why a lot of people are wowed when they drink tea NOT made at home is because they are cooking the tea leaves or otherwise muddying up the flavors when they do it themselves. There's a whole, centuries-old tradition for making good tea. Anyway, this hits the nail on the head: |
Here is a link that might be useful: Learning How To Cook -- The Art of Iced Tea
As a Michigander married to a boy from Tennessee, I leave the sweet tea to him, LOL. I don't want anything at all in my tea, not even lemon, but he likes his sweeter. I think it's all in what you're used to. Teresa, you got a chuckle over the hot water/tea bag/ice cube combo, but when I went to Georgia I specifically asked for that, because I couldn't get a glass of iced tea that wasn't already sweetened. The waitress looked at me like I had two heads, but she brought it. Begrudgingly, but she brought it, LOL. Now I'm trying to copy the Lipton Diet Citrus Green Tea that my girls buy in bottles because they love it. Any ideas? Annie |
Never, ever boil tea bags. Put them in boiling water, take off the heat and let stand for 5 minutes. Then sweeten tea with REAL SUGAR, while hot-- so the sugar will melt. add ice and serve. We never, ever drink unsweetened tea--Sweet Tea or No Tea. Born and Raised here in the SOUTH |
- Posted by teresa_nc7 (My Page) on Sat, Aug 8, 09 at 10:42
Annie, There is now a new Lipton Citrus Green tea in bags listed on their web site. You could find that, brew it, sweeten it with your preferred sugarless sweetener, and taste test to see if it is like the bottled version. If it's a good copy-cat of the bottled, just make it up often and refill clean bottles to have on hand. You could even do a blind taste test with the girls to see if they can tell the difference! You could save the bottles from the manufactured green tea and refill them to trick their tastebuds too! The Lipton Orange Passionfruit and Jasmine green tea is also good. I like to use part sugar and part Splenda when making sweetened tea. You really should keep any tea chilled if you want to keep it overnight or more than one day. Sometimes chilled iced tea will get cloudy in the fridge. Don't know about green tea. Just now I made a pitcher of iced tea: 1 Luzianne family size bag and 2 Celestial Seasonings Very Berry Zinger bags, some sugar and 2 packs of Splenda. I also remembered the other day that I love peach flavored tea, so I'll look for that in the store too. Teresa |
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mimi919 Posts: 85Just an update on my 99 Concorde lxi...I have had this car a little under 3 months and have put 6,500 miles on it and have not had any major problems to date....I had a few minor problems which I had corrected such as the overhead garage door opener had no range to it and I had it replaced and the new one works real good.....my front passenger window does not work from the drivers control at times but the dealer was unable to fix that problem as it was working when I had it there.
I have to say that I wasen't at all concerned about Chryslers reliability until after I purchased my Concorde and read some of the previous negative posts in here...I realize that some of the posts may be over exaggererated but also based on nightmare experiences so like i'm sure most other owners in here I took out the best extended warranty availiable.
The way I look at it is whether or not we should have to purchase a warranty or not just the fact of knowing how many problems previous owners have had with their Chryslers we would only have ourself to blame if we found ourself in the same situation of needing expensive repairs and we never protected ourself with the extended warranty
I truely hope my 99 Concorde turns out to be the best car that I have ever owned but if doesn't the cost of the warranty will be well worth it for the peace of mind knowing that for the next 100,000 miles that I will have no repair costs or being without a car if mine is in the shop needing repairs as the warranty provides a rental car at no cost to me.
well thats my opionion and I hope all owners of new Chryslers have a great ownership experience -
hoho Posts: 64Hi Mimi919, long time no see.
I gotta agree with that last post of yours. The only problem I have had so far is someone tagged my bumper and left me a small scratch. They must aim for new cars. Kinda like a magnet.
I gotta wonder if some of the minor problems that are reported here could be attributed to lack of understanding how the vehicle operates. I have read so much about the car from the service manual. Real glad I spent the extra bucks for the book. Kinda relaxing to sit back and glance through the book. Some really interesting items in there. Why everyone doesn't get one is kinda puzzeling. Maybe they would find themselves complaining less if they understood how it reallly worked. Kinda makes you think.
I, like you, opted for the best coverage to be on the safe side of things. I cant see spending the money for the different scan tools required to check out and reset the onboard computers. Thats is another reason for the extra coverage.
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tmsmith1 Posts: 3After looking for awhile, I finally bought a '99 deep slate lxi for $22,500. It has the Infinity stereo system. I'm not very knowlegable in this field of buying cars, so, you guys "in the know" that write these posts tell me. . .did I get a fair deal or did I get the royal rip-off?
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401k Posts: 16There is a new Road Test Report here on the Edmunds site for the 1999 Concorde.
Tom -
hoho Posts: 64If you did not get an extended warranty at the time you bought the car you were either lucky and/or smart!!!!!
Here is the reason. If you pay for an extended warranty at the time you purchase the car and you decide to finance it, the cost goes into your total cost of the car. Meaning you are paying interest charges on the warranty.
There is and I most strongly suggest that you get it, an extended warranty coverage for your Concorde. I started with the "Add-Care" package and later decided to upgrade it to the "Max-Care" package. The difference between the two is way too much to list. Add-Care 800+ items or Max-Care 5000+ items. Go to your dealer (or any Chryler dealer and inquire about it. Pay cash or charge it. You will SAVE BUCKS in the end!! Even at Edmunds.com near the bottom of the page has a link for warranty coverage. I use that to get my dealer to come down on the warranty price. I showed him a print out of the warranty and what it covered and how much it cost. The Max Care plan from the dealers book was listed at $3,560 for a 7 yr 100k mile warranty. I paid $2,100. If something goes south later I know it will cost alot more than $2100 for all of the things that normally go wrong between now and 7 years and 100,000 miles. Heck, even my water pump and alternator and brake calipers are covered. The ABS module cost more than the warranty! Really get the warranty even if you have to take out a loan. You won't be sorry. My brother/law's A/C went out and it will cost him $1500 to fix it (no extended warranty and the van just went out of manufactures warranty). -
countrylawyer Posts: 11Just yesterday saw a 2000 Concorde on the lot at King Cotton Motors in Covington, Tennessee. They hadn't done the usual post-delivery check-outs on it yet, so I couldn't sit in it or drive it, but a brief through-the-window eye-ball revealed that Chrysler seems to have addressed my one aesthetic concern with the 1998-99 models, viz. the tacky-looking gauges. The first two years have dashes that don't look noticeably nicer than the wife's 1996 Stratus, and color me picayunish, but when I'm asked to plonk down $20-odd grand of the Right Stuff for a car, I'd like something I can tell apart from a middling vehicle. Besides, the car's exterior is so awesome that the discordant visual effect of the dash was heightened. The 2000 car still had white-on-black dials, in what looked like a pretty plain-vanilla typeface (the black-on-white dials of the LHS/300M, with the numbers that remind one of grandfather's gold fob watch, are MUCH classier), but were rimmed in silver. I couldn't tell any other cosmetic changes in the exterior or interior.
Now if Chrysler would only mate the Concorde's front end to the LHS's interior . . . . -
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emale Posts: 1,380alot of folks here in edmunds town hall have had great experiences with their late model concordes...intrepids and 300ms. of course you'll see some dissenting voices here and there but you'll easily be able to pick up on the ones that truly don't tell ya much. i have had my 98 intrepid since december of 97 and it's been a great car. a couple of minor problems but that's it. in case your were wondering. the intrepid, concorde and 300m have many of the same parts and thus are very closely related.
hoho Posts: 64But i have a 99 Concorde LXI and we really like it. Check out post area #451 & #453. Have an open mind and don't let everything get you. Most just like to ramble on (including me). It is a beautiful car that is well designed. Of course I have only had it for a short period of time. I backed it up with a "max Care" warranty so I am not too worried of what is said. Give it a shot. Try to read thru all of the posts to get a complete idea of what is being said before you form any opinion. The people are really quite nice and helpful here. Dont let names fool you.
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eeel Posts: 57i own a 98 intrepid and am thinking of trading in my wife's 93 eagle vision on a concorde/300m/lhs - my intrepid has been flawless in both fit and finish as well as performance. No warranty work - my 95 intrepid which i traded in on the 98 performed as well - no problems - 50k when traded - the 93 eagle vision has 110k and still runs like a jackrabbit - the wife has beat the body/paint pretty well though - the quality of chrysler products has vastly improved and for the money - these cars are hard to touch - and the intrepids/300m handling is clearly above the pack
emale Posts: 1,380just this morning i was out at the dealership
giving them a good tongue lashing over having left
the oil cap off after my recent oil change. while i
was there i picked up the 2000 model brochure.
some interesting changes. here are the colours
1. inferno red
2. dark garnet
3. steel blue
4. deep slate
5. sonte white
6. bright silver metallic
7. champagne pearl
8. light cypress green
9. shale green
10 cinnamon glaze
so it does look like the candy apple red,
platinum, emerald green and deep amethyst are out
the door.
dodge also did some reworking of the options
packages and groups. antilock brakes are an option
on all models. no longer standard on es. leather
is part of the 24m package now.
the r/t version says late availability so don't
know when that will show up.
for those of us complaining about road noise. the
brochure mentions that a new rear wheelhouse
silencer will drop noise levels significantly for a
much quieter ride, where have i heard this before?
we'll see! but it also said that would be
available late so i don't know when it will show up
on production cars.
many of these changes are also likely on the
concorde but i can't verify that as they didn't
have a 2000 model year concorde brochure. -
mcgreenx Posts: 179This is the URL that quotes MSRP on Chrysler extended warranty policies. Since you can buy the policy any time within the first 12 months, I suggest getting a commitment from a trustworthy dealer (is that an oxymoron?) that you can buy it 11.5 month after delivery at an agreed price. No point in paying the cost of money for an unnecessary year.
http://www.servicecontracts.chrysler.com/fs_service_contracts.html -
celtic_dog Posts: 1My wife drives a 97 Concorde and has had no problems other than the rear window sealant oozing out onto the body. AZ is an extremely hot state.... The vent setup isn't the best, but all in all the car performs well.
The acceleration is great, the ride is smooth, especially on long trips at higher speeds and it handles very well. The dealer has been very helpfull with any and all questions we've had, I expect nothing less as I'm sure you don't either.
Though the car isn't perfect, it has served us well. I have no problem recommending this model vehicle to anyone.
Celtic dog -
mike327 Posts: 1Thanks to those that posted solutions to the 'mildew smell' that I notice sometimes in my '98 Concorde. Just today, I had my second passenger window motor replaced since I bought the car in Nov 98. The driver side motor has been replaced twice. Once, there were three Concordes in a row at the service department, all with window motor problems. As for road noise, it may be the Goodyear tires. I had a similar problem with my '95 Neon, but when I went to a Pirelli, the road noise was a lot less.
kenware1 Posts: 4OK folks, why are you buying extended warranties?
Why not take the cash and invest it in a money market fund or other liquid source? If you need to make a repair, you've set some or all of the funds aside.
Consider also the best warranty has a 100K mile life. This tells me that Chrysler expects the vehicle to get 100K miles, properly maintained, before repairs exceeding the price of the warranty are needed. They are in the game to make money and they are not going to sell you the warranty if they think they will loose money on it.
My view is keep the money in your own pocket, take care of your vehicle and accept the risk of a future repair - it might not come while you own the car. Why pay the dealer $2K or $3K for something that might not even occur?

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1 Later Jesus appeared again to the disciples beside the Sea of Galilee. This is how it happened. | 1 Afterward Jesus appeared again to his disciples, by the Sea of Tiberias. It happened this way: |
2 Several of the disciples were there -- Simon Peter, Thomas (nicknamed the Twin ), Nathanael from Cana in Galilee, the sons of Zebedee, and two other disciples. | 2 Simon Peter, Thomas (called Didymus), Nathanael from Cana in Galilee, the sons of Zebedee, and two other disciples were together. |
3 Simon Peter said, "I'm going fishing." "We'll come, too," they all said. So they went out in the boat, but they caught nothing all night. | 3 "I'm going out to fish," Simon Peter told them, and they said, "We'll go with you." So they went out and got into the boat, but that night they caught nothing. |
4 At dawn the disciples saw Jesus standing on the beach, but they couldn't see who he was. | 4 Early in the morning, Jesus stood on the shore, but the disciples did not realize that it was Jesus. |
5 He called out, "Friends, have you caught any fish?" "No," they replied. | 5 He called out to them, "Friends, haven't you any fish?" "No," they answered. |
6 Then he said, "Throw out your net on the right-hand side of the boat, and you'll get plenty of fish!" So they did, and they couldn't draw in the net because there were so many fish in it. | 6 He said, "Throw your net on the right side of the boat and you will find some." When they did, they were unable to haul the net in because of the large number of fish. |
7 Then the disciple whom Jesus loved said to Peter, "It is the Lord!" When Simon Peter heard that it was the Lord, he put on his tunic (for he had stripped for work), jumped into the water, and swam ashore. | 7 Then the disciple whom Jesus loved said to Peter, "It is the Lord!" As soon as Simon Peter heard him say, "It is the Lord," he wrapped his outer garment around him (for he had taken it off) and jumped into the water. |
8 The others stayed with the boat and pulled the loaded net to the shore, for they were only out about three hundred feet. | 8 The other disciples followed in the boat, towing the net full of fish, for they were not far from shore, about a hundred yards. |
9 When they got there, they saw that a charcoal fire was burning and fish were frying over it, and there was bread. | 9 When they landed, they saw a fire of burning coals there with fish on it, and some bread. |
10 "Bring some of the fish you've just caught," Jesus said. | 10 Jesus said to them, "Bring some of the fish you have just caught." |
11 So Simon Peter went aboard and dragged the net to the shore. There were 153 large fish, and yet the net hadn't torn. | 11 Simon Peter climbed aboard and dragged the net ashore. It was full of large fish, 153, but even with so many the net was not torn. |
12 "Now come and have some breakfast!" Jesus said. And no one dared ask him if he really was the Lord because they were sure of it. | 12 Jesus said to them, "Come and have breakfast." None of the disciples dared ask him, "Who are you?" They knew it was the Lord. |
13 Then Jesus served them the bread and the fish. | 13 Jesus came, took the bread and gave it to them, and did the same with the fish. |
14 This was the third time Jesus had appeared to his disciples since he had been raised from the dead. | 14 This was now the third time Jesus appeared to his disciples after he was raised from the dead. |
15 After breakfast Jesus said to Simon Peter, "Simon son of John, do you love me more than these?" "Yes, Lord," Peter replied, "you know I love you." "Then feed my lambs," Jesus told him. | 15 When they had finished eating, Jesus said to Simon Peter, "Simon son of John, do you truly love me more than these?" "Yes, Lord," he said, "you know that I love you." Jesus said, "Feed my lambs." |
16 Jesus repeated the question: "Simon son of John, do you love me?" "Yes, Lord," Peter said, "you know I love you." "Then take care of my sheep," Jesus said. | 16 Again Jesus said, "Simon son of John, do you truly love me?" He answered, "Yes, Lord, you know that I love you." Jesus said, "Take care of my sheep." |
17 Once more he asked him, "Simon son of John, do you love me?" Peter was grieved that Jesus asked the question a third time. He said, "Lord, you know everything. You know I love you." Jesus said, "Then feed my sheep. | 17 The third time he said to him, "Simon son of John, do you love me?" Peter was hurt because Jesus asked him the third time, "Do you love me?" He said, "Lord, you know all things; you know that I love you." Jesus said, "Feed my sheep. |
18 The truth is, when you were young, you were able to do as you liked and go wherever you wanted to. But when you are old, you will stretch out your hands, and others will direct you and take you where you don't want to go." | 18 I tell you the truth, when you were younger you dressed yourself and went where you wanted; but when you are old you will stretch out your hands, and someone else will dress you and lead you where you do not want to go." |
19 Jesus said this to let him know what kind of death he would die to glorify God. Then Jesus told him, "Follow me." | 19 Jesus said this to indicate the kind of death by which Peter would glorify God. Then he said to him, "Follow me!" |
20 Peter turned around and saw the disciple Jesus loved following them -- the one who had leaned over to Jesus during supper and asked, "Lord, who among us will betray you?" | 20 Peter turned and saw that the disciple whom Jesus loved was following them. (This was the one who had leaned back against Jesus at the supper and had said, "Lord, who is going to betray you?") |
21 Peter asked Jesus, "What about him, Lord?" | 21 When Peter saw him, he asked, "Lord, what about him?" |
22 Jesus replied, "If I want him to remain alive until I return, what is that to you? You follow me." | 22 Jesus answered, "If I want him to remain alive until I return, what is that to you? You must follow me." |
23 So the rumor spread among the community of believers that that disciple wouldn't die. But that isn't what Jesus said at all. He only said, "If I want him to remain alive until I return, what is that to you?" | 23 Because of this, the rumor spread among the brothers that this disciple would not die. But Jesus did not say that he would not die; he only said, "If I want him to remain alive until I return, what is that to you?" |
24 This is that disciple who saw these events and recorded them here. And we all know that his account of these things is accurate. | 24 This is the disciple who testifies to these things and who wrote them down. We know that his testimony is true. |
25 And I suppose that if all the other things Jesus did were written down, the whole world could not contain the books. | 25 Jesus did many other things as well. If every one of them were written down, I suppose that even the whole world would not have room for the books that would be written. |
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Colombia Forest Figures
Forest Cover
Total forest area
: 60,728,000 ha
% of land area
: 58.5%
Primary forest cover
: 53,062,000 ha
% of land area
: 51.1%
% total forest area
: 87.4%
Deforestation Rates, 2000-2005
Annual change in forest cover
: -47,000 ha
Annual deforestation rate
: -0.1%
Change in defor. rate since '90s
: -0.5%
Total forest loss since 1990
: -711,000 ha
Total forest loss since 1990
Primary or "Old-growth" forests
Annual loss of primary forests
: -56200 ha
Annual deforestation rate
: -0.1%
Change in deforestation rate since '90s
: 11.0%
Primary forest loss since 1990
: -281,000 ha
Primary forest loss since 1990
Forest Classification
: n/a
: n/a
: n/a
: 12.7%
: 1%
: 14.1%
Social services
: 0%
Multiple purpose
: n/a
None or unknown
: 72.2
Forest Area Breakdown
Total area
: 60,728,000 ha
: 53,062,000 ha
Modified natural
: 7,337,000 ha
: n/a
Production plantation
: 312,000 ha
Production plantation
: 16,000 ha
Plantations, 2005
: 328,000 ha
% of total forest cover
: 0.5%
Annual change rate (00-05)
: 14,880,000 ha
Carbon storage
Above-ground biomass:
11,945 M t
Below-ground biomass
: 4,180 M t
Area annually affected by
: 23,000 ha
: n/a
: n/a
Number of tree species in IUCN red list
Number of native tree species
: 5,000
Critically endangered
: 31
: 50
: 108
Wood removal 2005
Industrial roundwood
: 3,246,000 m
Wood fuel
: 7,029,000 m
Value of forest products, 2005
Industrial roundwood
: n/a
Wood fuel
: n/a
Non-wood forest products (NWFPs)
: n/a
Total Value
: n/a
More forest statistics for Colombia
Despite its relatively small size, Colombia is the second most biologically diverse country on Earth, home to about 10 percent of the world's species. This biodiversity results from Colombia's varied ecosystems—from the rich tropical rainforest to the coastal cloud forests to the open savannas. More than 1,821 species of birds, 623 species of amphibians, 467 species of mammals, 518 species of reptiles, and 3,200 species of fish reside in Colombia. About 18 percent of these are endemic to the country. Colombia has a mind-boggling 51,220 species of plants, of which nearly 30 percent are endemic. While on paper nearly 10 percent of Colombia is under some form of protection, its rich biodiversity is increasingly threatened.
Each year Colombia loses nearly 200,000 hectares of natural forest, according to figures released by the United Nations in 2003—though the true figure may be higher since an estimated 100,000 hectares of native forest are illegally cleared every year. The vast majority of this loss is primary forest, which covers more than 80 percent of the country. Deforestation in Colombia results primarily from small-scale agricultural activities, logging, mining, energy development, infrastructure construction, large-scale agriculture, and the cocaine trade. Animal collection and pollution are also environmental issues in the country.
Colombia's Pacific Coast rainforests are rapidly disappearing due to gold mining and palm-oil plantations. By one estimate, in the mid-1990s, industrial gold mining alone cleared 80,000 hectares of forest per year, while contaminating local rivers with mercury and siltation. Coca production is also expanding in this region (see below)
The coca trade
In the highlands, the ongoing battle over coca cultivation has had a significant impact on forest cover. Colombia is a leading producer of coca, the plant that provides the main ingredient of cocaine. Much of Colombia's coca is grown by poor farmers because it generates more income than any other crop. Typically farmers convert the plant into coca paste and sell it to groups—including paramilitaries and Colombian rebels—who refine it into cocaine and export it to markets like the United States, which is the world's largest consumer of the narcotic.
Drug eradication efforts have focused on aerial fumigation programs where herbicides (a mixture that includes Monsanto Corporation's Roundup and Cosmo-Flux 411F) are dropped by crop-duster planes on suspect vegetation. Since the concoction is a non-selective herbicide, surrounding vegetation—including subsistence crops and native plants—are killed as well. Local reports suggest that farmers often replant coca seedlings soon after spraying, making the whole exercise somewhat futile.
Aerial spraying may also be causing coca cultivation to shift to new regions. In March 2005, the Associated Press reported that large-scale coca production was moving into the extensive rainforests of the Choc— state, a biodiversity hotspot in northwest Colombia. Poor farmers are clearing forest to plant coca seedlings while hunting local wildlife for food.
The ecological impacts of coca production are significant as well. Each acre requires clearing of roughly four acres of forest while the dumping of chemicals used to process coca leaves (including kerosene, sulfuric acid, acetone, and carbide) pollutes local waterways.
Additionally, critics of U.S. efforts in Colombia note that the eradication program has done little to slow the supply of cocaine that enters the United States. Despite increased worldwide demand, prices of cocaine have been steadily dropping over the years on American streets, indicating that availability of the drug has not diminished.
A 2005 report from the White House Office of National Drug Control Policy shows that a massive U.S.-backed aerial spraying offensive last year failed to reduce the area of coca under cultivation in Colombia. Figures show that 281,694 acres of coca remained in Colombia at the end of 2004, an increase from the 281,323 acres remaining after 2003's campaign. Despite billions of dollars in eradication spending, the amount of land under cultivation for coca has more than doubled since the mid-1990s: in 1996 there were 69,100 hectares of the crop, while in 1995, 51,400 hectares of coca were growing.
Wildlife trafficking
Drugs are not the only thing trafficked from the forests of Colombia. Endangered wildlife—especially rare birds and reptiles—are smuggled to markets in the United States and Europe. The government estimates that in 1997 more than seven million animals worth $40 million were illegally exported from Colombia.
Logs, too, are an illicit trade in the country—illegal logging is widespread. Forestry enforcement is a low priority given the violence and disarray in much of Colombia.
Colombia has oil and gas deposits but ongoing instability has somewhat limited potential development. Attacks on oil pipelines and installations by guerrillas in Eastern Colombia have resulted in oil spills and pollution.
When peace returns to Colombia, the country could be well-served to emphasis its biological diversity as a draw for eco-tourists; however, it seems likely that stability will bring further exploitation of the country's forest resources.
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Initiative to restore 50M acres of degraded Latin American ecosystems by 2020
(12/07/2014) A coalition of governments and organizations today pledged to restore 20 million hectares (50 million acres) of degraded forests and ecosystems across Latin America by 2020 under an initiative that aims to curb boost rural incomes, fight climate change, and increase agricultural production. The effort is backed by $365 million from five impact investors.
'New normal' approach to conservation comes under fire
(12/02/2014) A new study faults adaptive 'Novel Ecosystems' concept with ignoring true values of biodiversity and restoration. Over the past few years a new conservation approach known as the "novel ecosystems" concept has been slowly gathering steam in science, media, and policy-making circles. Based on pragmatism, it presents itself as a way forward in a world where irreversible ecosystem change is inevitable.
Island terror attack shuts Colombia's renowned 'blue lizard' park
(11/29/2014) A terror attack by Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia (FARC) on facilities on the island of Gorgona has prompted Colombian officials to close the World Heritage site "indefinitely" to tourists. Aviatur, Colombia's largest tourism operator which operates the only lodge on Gorgona, shortly thereafter announced it was suspending all operations on the island.
New tapir? Scientists dispute biological discovery of the century
(11/13/2014) Nearly a year ago, scientists announced an incredible discovery: a new tapir species from the western Amazon in Brazil and Colombia. The announcement was remarkable for a number of reasons: this was the biggest new land mammal discovered in more than 20 years and was only the fifth tapir known to the world. But within months other researchers expressed doubt over the veracity of the new species.
Conservationists propose Dracula Reserve in Ecuador
(10/24/2014) Deep in the dark, cool forests of Ecuador and Colombia live strange and mysterious organisms. Some inhabit the trees and others stay to the ground, and many are threatened by human encroachment. Because of this threat, Rainforest Trust has launched a Halloween fundraising drive to help pay for the creation of the Dracula Reserve--named for its dramatic inhabitant, the Dracula orchid.
Gold mining expanding rapidly along Guiana Shield, threatening forests, water, wildlife
(10/22/2014) Gold mining is on the rise in the Guiana Shield, a geographic region of South America that holds one of the world's largest undisturbed tract of rainforest. A new mapping technology using a radar and optical imaging combination has detected a significant increase in mining since 2000, threatening the region's forests and water quality.
Colombia reports drop in deforestation
(10/21/2014) Colombia has for the first time released an annual report on deforestation, revealing that forest loss during 2013 was lower than the recent average. The government says some 120,933 hectares of natural forest were cleared between January and December 2013.
'A remarkable conservation achievement': Ecuador reserve expands as forest disappears
(10/09/2014) A strip of rainforest running along the northwestern Ecuadorian coast and up through Colombia is one of the most biodiverse places in the world. Yet, less than 10 percent of Ecuador's portion remains intact, with more forest lost every year to human development. But a little more has been saved for now, with 500 hectares added to an area reserve.
Diverse, deceptive, declining: orchids threatened by deforestation in South America
(09/26/2014) Pushing past a thick fern leaf, Crain stopped short, overcome by joy. As he broke into dance, his assistant peered curiously at the tiny lentil-shaped fruit dangling from a stem, and resolutely decided Crain was mad. After more than two years studying a rare Puerto Rican endemic orchid species, Crain had finally found his first specimen bearing fruit.
Conservationist, indigenous leader killed in plane crash in Colombia
(09/07/2014) A conservationist who worked to protect voluntarily isolated tribes in the Amazon rainforest and an indigenous leader were among ten killed in a plane crash in southern Colombia Saturday afternoon. Roberto Franco, a political scientist, and Daniel Matapi, a Yukuna-Matapis indigenous leader, died when the Piper PA-31 Navajo crashed after takeoff from Araracuara in the department of Caqueta.
How do we save the world's vanishing old-growth forests?
(08/26/2014) There's nothing in the world like a primary forest, which has never been industrially logged or cleared by humans. They are often described as cathedral-like, due to pillar-like trees and carpet-like undergrowth. Yet, the world's primary forests—also known as old-growth forests—are falling every year, and policy-makers are not doing enough to stop it.
Rare bird paradise protected in war-torn Colombian mountain range (photos)
(07/22/2014) A coalition of conservation groups have established a new protected area in one of Latin America's most neglected ecosystems: the Colombian-side of the Serranía de Perijá mountain range. Following decades of bloody conflict and rampant deforestation, experts say only five percent of rainforest is left on the Colombian side of this embattled mountain range.
Is REDD+ bad for wildlife? New study says lowland forest protection bias unfair, urges change
(06/27/2014) A study published this week found tree cover does not necessarily correlate with habitat importance. It suggests that using such a metric may be leading to false assumptions of habitat importance, and that REDD+ and other carbon-centric conservation programs may actually be propelling some species towards extinction.
Olinguito, tinkerbell, and a dragon: meet the top 10 new species of 2013
(05/22/2014) Out of around 18,000 new species described and named last year, scientists have highlighted ten in an effort to raise awareness about the imperiled biodiversity around us. Each species—from a teddy-bear-like carnivore in the Andes to a microbe that survives clean rooms where spaceships are built—stands out from the crowd for one reason or another.
Letting forests regrow on cattle pasture yields cheap conservation benefits
(04/28/2014) Letting forests regrow naturally on grazing lands in the tropics offers substantial climate and biodiversity at a low cost, reports a study published in the journal
Nature Climate Change
Bizarre, endangered bird discovered in high densities
(03/24/2014) The turkey-sized, noisy, fruit-feasting guans are arguably one of the strangest wildlife sightings in the tropical forests of Central and South America. Ancient animals, these birds are members of the Cracidae family—which also include equally-odd currasows and chachalacas—and are actually distantly related to megapode, or mound-building, birds of Australiasia. A new study in mongabay.com's open-access journal Tropical Conservation Science looks at a particularly endangered guan: the Cauca gaun (
Penelope perspicax
From theory to deadly reality: malaria moving upslope due to global warming
(03/06/2014) Malaria is a global scourge: despite centuries of efforts to combat the mosquito-borne disease, it still kills between 660,000 to 1.2 million people a year, according to World Health Organization data from 2010. Astoundingly, experts estimate that around 300 million people are infected with the disease every year or about 4 percent of the world's total population. And these stats may only get worse. For years scientists have vigorously debated whether or not malaria will expand as global warming worsens, but a new study in Science lays down the first hard evidence.
Next big idea in forest conservation? Connecting forest fragments
(01/31/2014) Dr. Stuart Pimm is an expert in extinctions: why they happen, how fast they happen, and how they can be prevented. Reconnecting forest fragments and avoiding fragmentation, according to Pimm, are among the most crucial things we can do to conserve global biodiversity. His organization SavingSpecies identifies areas at-risk for extinctions and helps local organizations fundraise so they can protect and restore habitats and safeguard biodiversity.
Colombia to protect remote region bordering Venezeula
(01/13/2014) The Colombian government plans to declare a remote area bordering Venezuela a new protected area. Colombian Minister of Environment, Luz Helena Sarmiento, told the
El Espectador
that President Juan Manuel Santos will declare the Estrella Fluvial de Inirida river area a Ramsar Wetland of International Importance. The designation would give Colombia six Ramsar sites.
Rainforest news review for 2013
(12/26/2013) 2013 was full of major developments in efforts to understand and protect the world's tropical rainforests. The following is a review of some of the major tropical forest-related news stories for the year. As a review, this post will not cover everything that transpired during 2013 in the world of tropical forests. Please feel free to highlight anything this post missed via the comments section at the bottom. Also please note that this review focuses only on tropical forests.
Scientists make one of the biggest animal discoveries of the century: a new tapir
(12/16/2013) In what will likely be considered one of the biggest (literally) zoological discoveries of the Twenty-First Century, scientists today announced they have discovered a new species of tapir in Brazil and Colombia. The new mammal, hidden from science but known to local indigenous tribes, is actually one of the biggest animals on the continent, although it's still the smallest living tapir. Described in the Journal of Mammology, the scientists have named the new tapir Tapirus kabomani after the name for 'tapir' in the local Paumari language: Arabo kabomani.
Scientists identify 137 protected areas most important for preserving biodiversity
(11/14/2013) Want to save the world's biodiversity from mass extinction? Then make certain to safeguard the 74 sites identified today in a new study in
. Evaluating 173,000 terrestrial protected areas, scientists pulled out the most important ones for global biodiversity based on the number of threatened mammals, birds, and amphibians found in the parks. In all they identified 137 protected areas (spread over 74 sites as many protected areas were in the same region) in 34 countries as 'irreplaceable.'
Adorable baby olinguito photographed in Colombia (picture)
(11/01/2013) Researchers returning from an expedition to a cloud forest in Colombia have released photos of the world's most recently-discovered carnivore, the olinguito.
Featured video: 'this is day one for the olinguito'
(09/04/2013) Last month scientists unveiled a remarkable discovery: a new mammal in the order Carnivora (even though it mostly lives off fruits) in the Andean cloud forests. This was the first new mammal from that order in the Western Hemisphere since the 1970s. The olinguito had long been mistaken for its closest relatives, olingos—small tree-dwelling mammals that inhabit the lowland rainforests of South and Central America—however genetic research showed the olinguito had actually been separated by 3-4 million years from its cousins.
Meet the BABY olinguito
(08/18/2013) Since its announcement on Thursday, the olinguito—the world's newest mammal—has taken the world by storm. Hundreds of articles have been written about the new species, while its cuddly appearance has already been made the subject of cartoons. Now, conservationists have released the first photos of a baby olinguito. The new photos come from La Mesenia Conservation Project in Colombia, an Andean cloud forest reserve that is a project area for the NGO SavingSpecies.
Suggested reading - Books
A Guide to the Birds of Colombia
Unseen Colombia
Mammals of the Neotropics, Volume 1 : The Northern Neotropics: Panama, Colombia, Venezuela, Guyana, Suriname, French Guiana (Eisenberg, John F//Mammals of the Neotropics)
Lonely Planet Colombia
Footprint Colombia Handbook: The Travel Guide
The Amazon, 2nd: The Bradt Travel Guide
Insight Guide Amazon Wildlife
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Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance's Jetstream DLC is Now Available
Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance's second downloadable content pack is now available for the Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3.
And what does this DLC entail? Well, it stars the character Sam from the game proper. His nickname is, "the cool Brazilian wind," which is sort of a really badass title for a wandering swordsman from Latin America.
The DLC will be set in Denver, Colorado, where Sam will test his skills against World Marshall. This will give us a better understanding of the character and hopefully see his personality fleshed out while he cuts through the actual flesh of his enemies.
The Jetstream DLC pack is available for $9.00 on PlayStation 3 or 800 Microsoft Points on the Xbox 360.
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We are getting this, but what are the ins/outs of the different styles? Some are just flat and straight. Others are wavy. How do I accommodate both short knives (5" or less) and long chef knives? Thanks. |
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I'm exploring now, too. Williams Sonoma is back ordered but has the same price as Amazon on the wavy one; the Container Store has the kind with cork-like flexible dividers. Both stores have variations of both types, I intend to see them in person but the wave seems to use space more efficiently. |
Here is a link that might be useful: Williams Sonoma wusthof block
- Posted by angela12345 7b NC Mixed-Humid (My Page) on Mon, Aug 26, 13 at 8:16
I am using a Hampton Forge drawer knife insert that I got from Target. It is 6.2" wide instead of 9" wide as the Wusthof, so saves a bit of my drawer space. Same length. When I got it, it was much less in the store than the online price, but I don't remember exactly how much I paid for it. It holds 5 large knives and 6 small knives. Another thing I like about it over the Wusthof is that it doesn't have the spot for the knife sharpener. We don't use that kind of sharpener, so this would have been a wasted slot for me. The smaller knives go in the upper space and the larger knives go in the lower. See the picture on the packaging that shows the knife block with knives in it. |
Here is a link that might be useful: http://www.target.com/p/hampton-forge-drawer-knife-block/-/A-11141793
This post was edited by angela12345 on Mon, Aug 26, 13 at 11:52
- Posted by controlfreakecs (My Page) on Mon, Aug 26, 13 at 9:19
I've had the Henckels version for years (despite the fact that I have Wusthof knives.) I don't remember any more why I liked the Henckels better, but I do recall comparing them. It holds 6 large and 6 small plus a steel. . . . my tomato knife just barely fits in the small slot, when we got it the large slots were already full. Anyway, I've always liked it and we have continued to use it post remodel. In fact, I made sure I had a good place for it in the prep zone! |
Here is a link that might be useful: Henckels 13 slot in-drawer knife tray
I have two of the same style knife blocks (the "wavy" ones with the smaller knives--steak and paring-- in one layer and the larger chef and bread knives in another) as angela 12345. They are placed side by side in my cutlery drawer. The two-level storage is a very space efficient design. I think I bought mine at Home Depot or Lowes for significantly less than the Target price. By the way, it would be easy to cut one block to a narrower width if you need more slots than provided by one large block but don't have space or need for two full blocks. Once you decide on style, I would suggest you check out the "used" blocks on Amazon. They are probably just returned items and not really "used." You can usually save 20% or so off their "new" price and get free shipping with Amazon Prime. Sometimes really good bargains show up here. |
- Posted by olivertwist (My Page) on Mon, Aug 26, 13 at 9:51
So the wavy one lets me "stack" and put the shorter knives on top? In contrast to this Rev-a-Shelf model which I kind of like better (I don't like wavy) but would be twice as wide 18-1/2" (470mm) W x 22" (559mm) D x 2-7/8" (60mm) H to store 19 knives. Some criticisms of the Wustoff one is the dowels that are on the bottom. I could see how that would be annoying. Do the others posted above also have these dowels, or are they solid wood on the bottom? Thanks. |
The best money I ever spent was $14.99 for a Grundtal Magnetic Knife Rack from IKEA. The knives are easy to see, easy to reach for adults, & don't get nicked, and............. I don't lose a drawer to storing knives. |
Here is a link that might be useful: Knife Rack
The best money I ever spent was $14.99 for a Grundtal Magnetic Knife Rack from IKEA. The knives are easy to see, easy to reach for adults, & don't get nicked, and............. I don't lose a drawer to storing knives. |
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- Posted by olivertwist (My Page) on Mon, Aug 26, 13 at 10:14
Thanks for the thought, but I definitely want them in a drawer. Why is it that I have to obsess about even the littlest things? I'm so tired of obsessing over these things but I can't help it! |
- Posted by williamsem (My Page) on Mon, Aug 26, 13 at 10:26
We have the wave one, I think Wusthof. Amazon warehouse deal. It does have dowels, we put the knives in blade up, just like we did when we had the countertop model. So far we are loving it! |
I haven't had a chance to really use my Wusthof yet - I put it in the drawer, but until we have countertops (next week), we aren't using the kitchen much. I do think I'll like it, though. One of the goals of my remodel was to reduce clutter on the counters - and two knife blocks seemed cluttered to me. I did hang on to the blocks, in case I change my mind when we actually start using it - and I see how the counters look. Beverly27, my Mom has a magnetic strip like that - it's on the side of the cabinet next to her sink. It does work well, though small paring knives can slip off. I specifically planned a drawer in my kitchen for knives, so I don't feel like I'm losing anything. |
Just a question for you knives in the drawer people from a knife block on the counter person: I understand you have ample drawer space and don't want clutter on the counter. However, in reality, I'm usually wanting maybe a different knife while I have sticky pineapple juice or chicken ick on my hands and can just reach for a knife without 1) having to visualize where it is in the drawer, or 2) transferring the stuff on my hands onto the drawer pull. Before you prep, do you get all the knives out of the drawer that you plan to use? |
- Posted by williamsem (My Page) on Mon, Aug 26, 13 at 11:22
We generally use one knife. Most often the santuko knife or chef knife. If I plan on needing two knives, I generally take them both out, but that's rare. I'd probably rinse my hands first if taking a second knife out, that's what I did with the block too since I always managed to get stuff on the neighboring knives because they are so close! |
- Posted by sjhockeyfan (My Page) on Mon, Aug 26, 13 at 12:17
I have used the same one Angela pictured for years. Works great for all sizes of knives. |
I have the Wusthof drawer blocks and really like them. One is a 7 knife block and the other is the 14 knife block. I have them in a drawer together and they are exactly 13" wide, hold 21 knives plus a sharpener. The dowels have never bothered me in the 4+ years that I have had them. I bought them for around $50 via Amazon and they are moving with me to NC :) |
I actually purchased the Rev-A-Shelf knife drawer insert, but upon receiving it, I noticed that several of my larger chef's knives rock back (the handle lays down) and the tip of the knife stuck up from the holder. I was so disappointed! I am now looking at the Miu 15-slot knife tray. Do any of you have the Miu? How do you like it? |
Here is a link that might be useful: MIU 15-slot Knife Tray on Amazon
The "wavy" type of storage seems to be taller than the Rev-a-shelf type. The drawer I'm using is quite shallow and I found that I can't keep my chef's knife in my "wavy"-style block at all: the handle will tip up enough to block the drawer from opening! I'm sure your knife drawer has better clearance than my "pre-reno" drawer, which has 4.25", but I just thought it might be worth mentioning. hth edit: ps: I have a bamboo in-drawer block from BBB that has extra slots on the top back for smaller knives like a tomato knife. I don't see it anymore on their web site though. |
This post was edited by mtnfever on Mon, Aug 26, 13 at 16:14
I have a drawer block from Ikea that works great and looks great too. |
I had a straight block and a total waste of space and the tips stuck up in the air. It didn't hold many knives. Love my wusthoff with the steel in the middle. I also tried a few other styles and returned them. Anyone need a 21 inch straight block knife holder? |
I've seen in-drawer knife holders like the ones pictured above at Bed, Bath & Beyond. I don't have one, but I think I'd like them. |
I just got the wusthoff block from amazon and I must say that I am not liking the way my global knifes fit in them. There is a piece of wood in the bottom that is touching the cutting edge and I am concerned about wearing out the edge sharpness where the knife edge touches the wood. I think the design is flawed. |
I have one of those two level ones in my utensil drawer. I can't remember if I got it at BB&B or Tuesday Morning, but it wasn't expensive. As someone else said, the small knives go in the top and the bigger ones on the bottom. I also have a knife block on my counter that holds the ones I use most: chef's, bread, and filet. |
- Posted by maid_o_cliff (My Page) on Tue, Aug 27, 13 at 21:32
I have ordered these, I have one very narrow drawer , that was always just a junk drawer. Hopefully these will do the trick for me! |
Here is a link that might be useful: Drawer knife organizer set.
- Posted by lori_inthenw (My Page) on Tue, Aug 27, 13 at 23:19
Have had a block for years, but thinking of moving to a drawer in new kitchen. For those who have switched, was it easy or hard to get used to? Pros and cons? I know I'm just aiming for less visual clutter on the counters. |
- Posted by williamsem (My Page) on Tue, Aug 27, 13 at 23:57
We store the knives in our Wusthoff wave style with the cutting edge up. |
Williamsem, I just tried that in mine, and the blades of the longer knives stick out above the wood. It would be dangerous for me to grab a knife form the top row. |
- Posted by olivertwist (My Page) on Thu, Aug 29, 13 at 20:09
Just bought the Hampton Forge one at Target, and it has that open bottom thing with dowels like the Wusthoff. Can someone tell me if the Henckles or Miu or JK Adams is solid on the bottom? Thanks. |
- Posted by olivertwist (My Page) on Wed, Sep 4, 13 at 23:43
Thanks all. I just got this one today from BBB http://www.bedbathandbeyond.com/1/1/14881-culinary-institute-of-america-masters-collection-bamboo-cutlery-drawer-storage.html And it's perfect! It's by Culinary Institute of America. It's bamboo, and solid on the bottom (no wooden dowels). I love the solid bottom, the flat part in front, that it is not quite wavy, but most importantly, it seems to hold more knives (and not too wide a block either) than any of the others I looked at- 7 long and 8 small knives. Now it's off to return all the others! |
Lori in the NW, I switched from a counter block to in-the-drawer. It was soooo easy to get used to, I can't believe I never switched before. Go for it. For me, the visual clutter didn't reduce. The knives moved to the only drawer in the prep area, and it's so skinny (7.5") that spoons and flippers don't fit. So there's still a crock on my counter. |
I also bought the Target in-drawer block and love it. I hate clutter on the counters so I used to have a magnetic rack inside the cabinet door in my old kitchen; bought the Target rack on impulse and I'm happy as a clam with it. I use very few knives so reaching in with messy hands hasn't been a problem; the one knife I'll use is out when I start. |
A magnetic rack inside a cabinet door - why didn't I think of that?! Thanks, all for sharing your solutions (and olivertwist for the thread)! I ordered the same CIA one from Amazon, BBB was online only in my area and pricier with shipping. I'll probably need edge guards or the magnet rack for extras, thanks for the picture GWlolo! |
- Posted by olivertwist (My Page) on Thu, Sep 5, 13 at 17:30
Yes, Amazon was cheaper, but I ended up ordering 3 different ones from BBB because it was easier to return! No post office needed. |
Oliver - that CIA one looks awesome! I might have to investigate getting one. Now - you might have to go get a set of CIA vessels to match (I found a good deal on a small set that had just the missing pots that I needed!) |
Here is a link that might be useful: bamboo utensil tray
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A word fitly spoken is like apples of gold in pictures of siluer.
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Total shipments of GPUs for the fourth quarter of 2008 were 72.35 million, down 28.5 percent from 100.5 million GPUs shipped in the same quarter last year. And in the third quarter of 2008, 111.26 million units shipped, representing a 34 percent sequential quarter-to-quarter drop. (GPU stands for graphics processing unit.)
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