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Let's start a thread. State the price you are selling for, the condition of your home, current days on market, and how many buyer's are you able to get to come through so far. Include if they called, drove by or open house.
$189,900 - Complete Gut & Remodel Brick Ranch City Home - DOM 25 - Total Buyer's that Came Through So Far 14. (12 Came From Open Houses and 2 Set Up Appointments) List yours below... |
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We are under agreement (closing scheduled for late May) but here is my tale: $524,000 (3 bedroom Cape in New England in town with excellent schools). Good -Fair condition. Went under agreement after 40 DOM. Approx 20-30 buyers came thru- all with brokers. Open house: 15 people. Our broker was about to suggest we lower our asking price after 30 days to $519K when we accepted offer for $490,000 . Yes, lower than asking but we are motivated to sell and house had more repair issues as revealed by house inspection than we expected. We are pleased in this market to have found a buyer. If all goes to plan, we close in late May. Good luck to all sellers out there! Hang in there and be flexible if you can- we were and I think it helped us! |
We are under contract as well with close date of May 15. Inspection is this Friday. $144900 was list ($140 is Sale Price) for 2200 SF 3br/2.5ba in burbs of Indianapolis. Hopefully the inspection goes well (it should be okay - it's a newer house) |
- Posted by dreamywhite (My Page) on Wed, Apr 8, 09 at 16:21
You both are lucky and congrats - do hope all goes well. Seems like you both hit the 40 day mark which is very hopeful for us. We have received all positive feedback since we do all of our own showings and OH's. BUT we keep getting people calling and emailing about renting instead of buying - they all say they love our home and it's beautiful but unfortunately we are not in a position to rent. So I guess people are looking at the ads we just need to be more patient. |
dreamywhite, it might be more helpful to add where you are selling. Where I sold last year, there was a spring market, we just happened to luck out. We did a $10k reduction, then kept lowering in small amounts. We listed Memorial Weekend 2007, closed Memorial weekend 2008. 10 months before an offer. stretchad has had their house listed before, it appears this was their time to sell, they hit the magic number, were probably the best in that price and there was a buyer that liked their house. |
Not sure if I qualify yet... 1100 sqft 2br 1 bath cape on 50x100, Diamond condition (really!) new kitchen and bath and redone everything else with granite etc. listed at $399K |
Columbus, Ohio (New Albany), 2200 sq foot ranch, excellent condition. DOM 30 7 scheduled showings. Listed at 329,9, bought it for 310k 3.5 years ago. Would be happy to break even. Listed flat fee MLS, posted in realtor.com and mls. Realtors are saying it shows well and is priced right so we shall see. Have not had open house and don't plan to. |
- Posted by mykidsdaddy (My Page) on Thu, Apr 9, 09 at 16:38
Central Florida (Ocala), six weeks on market. Zero showings. Selling short, listed presently for $155,000 less than we paid. House is two years old, vacant, two story Cape Cod, 2800 square feet, on two wooded, private acres, front view is horse paddock (Ocala is a very horsey area). Extremely private area, great school district, close to exclusive gated communities. Listed by local realty company in county-wide MLS and also on REALTOR.COM. We're having an open house this weekend and trying to stay optimistic. |
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Ok mines kind of fun... Let's start a thread. State the price you are selling for, the condition of your home, current days on market, and how many buyer's are you able to get to come through so far. Include if they called, drove by or open house. Sales Price: Condition: Current days on market... An agent sent a letter to my current home on a lake (same complex of townhouses). I called and said "No" but I have another if they're interested in being in the complex. He asked if HE could see it, and then came with his client without asking. They pushed me to take an offer then and there. I was planning on selling for 200,000 with the goal of clearing 185,000. I ended up clearing the deal with all fees at 202,000. But with great luck comes bad... We turned around and made an offer on our future home. It's been on the maket for four years, NO offers, NONE! Just interested buyers but since it's a losing profit B&B they can't sell. They refused our offer and countered with an offer that basically says "screw" you and we don't want to see another offer below the asking price. They added rediculous concessions (25,000 non refundable ernest etc). One good...one sucks... |
- Posted by honeychurch (My Page) on Fri, Apr 17, 09 at 21:32
TX, top schools, house is 12 years old, gated community, new carpet/paint, sport court, 3516 sq ft. Listed at $315000. DOM 34, so far 18 showings including one very lowball offer on day 2 (we countered but they could not budge). No open houses, all set up by appt. (a few of them last minute, but that's another thread LOL!) We are relocating in June and so are thinking about a small price drop around 5/1, though all feedback says the house shows very well and no indication that anyone thinks it is overpriced; there is just a lot of inventory at this price point...We have had a few people say "Top 3" or "interested but must sell own home before making offer"--nothing has come of these yet. |
- Posted by dreamywhite (My Page) on Mon, Apr 20, 09 at 17:53
Well we sold after 39 DOM got $1900 less than asking price and we were asking high for our area. We close at the end of May. BUT we prayed every day several times a day and thanked him for our blessing to move forward. |
Not to be the Vice Principal who smacks you with a ruler, but without the LOCATION, including ZIP CODE, that you are selling in, this thread is nearly useless. I mean a 2BR/1BA on a small lot for $399K? What So-Cal BEACHFRONT is that? Seriously, zip codes, it's easy. Thank you for your support. |
yes vice-principal sir! I am the offender, should have put it in there. 1100 sqft 2br 1 bath cape on 50x100, Diamond condition (really!) new kitchen and bath and redone everything else with granite etc. -listed at $399K 11793 zip. Wantagh NY. Sorry, not beachfront,5-10 minutes from the beach, just local market. I'm one of the cheapest houses in my town. DOM 15 so far 2 decent offers probably had 12 people at open house, and 10 or so showings beside that. |
Hi chrisk327, you mentioned 2 decent offers, did you accept one? Are you holding out for closer to list price? Are you in a competitive area where it's still a seller's market? Of course, "Diamond" condition could make the sell of your home much easier than most. :-) Sounds like you'll have a sale soon. Congrats. |
- Posted by kristiesin (My Page) on Wed, Apr 29, 09 at 14:38
Okay.. and here is ours. Days on Market.. 14 |
- Posted by lovelilies (My Page) on Sun, May 3, 09 at 9:54
We're in the Boston 'burbs, in a very middling kind of town with average schools. Our 3-bed vacant 70's cape (most renovated except for one bathroom) listed in early Jan. for $349K. Had about 20 showings on the first weekend. Got one low-ball offer and 2 closer ones. The 2 closer ones ended up bidding against each other (unsolicited on our part--we countered the same to both, and their offer price just creeped up over the course of the day.) Sold for $356K in mid Feb. The inspection found no issues. |
Ok, here is ours: Asking, 339K 4 Br, 3 1/2 bath, built in 1997. On golf course. Northern suburb of Indianapolis. Accepted offer at 12 DOM at 329K but are renting it back from buyers so final price will be 328K. Inspection will be soon....closing June 1st. One broker's open, one open house (14 families). I lost track of showings but it is around 7 in the first week. One other family had three showings. Cancelled 2nd open house due to accepted offer. Still received 3 calls after acceptance. We were told that a lot of people are looking but many are afraid to buy because of job stability. Not many want to take the leap. |
- Posted by kristiesin (My Page) on Mon, May 4, 09 at 15:00
Update.. Our House in Lake Stevens, Wa is pending inspection. We are set to close on May 28th.. Had another three showings over the weekend and have a person who wants to do a B/U offer. Sold for just about 4500k under asking price.. at 264,900.. we listed at 269,500.. and on the market less than 16 days.. I hope that is a sign of things improving. |
- Posted by southernstitcher (My Page) on Thu, May 14, 09 at 16:05
Selling my deceased mother's house. We've accepted an offer of $190K. Market appraisal in Aug showed value of $200k, and local appraiser told me this week values have not gone down in this area. As soon as our buyer's buyer signs their purchase agreement, which should happen today, we'll let them sign ours and begin with the new appraisal and inspection. zip 70764, small town outside of Baton Rouge, LA My fingers and toes are crossed, as the kitchen redo depends on this sale to start! |
- Posted by need2sellqkly (My Page) on Wed, Jun 3, 09 at 14:01
zip 45345 3 bed 1.5 bath cape cod, new cabinets, appliances, floor, recently redone hardwood floors, finished basement, lifetime waterproof warranty on basement, new half bath in basement. Brand new garage/pole barn. 120 CDOM 8 appointment showings. listed for 99,999. Was 105,900. Bought in 2000 for 99,900 and have put well over 20k in the place-all the updates listed above. Makes me sick to my stomach |
35120 30 miles from Birmingham Alabama 4bed/2 bath 3 years old 180K 12 DOM 0 Showings/calls, etc |
Zip 63020 - rural near St.Louis 390 DOM (13 months) 4 showings no offers, two realtors not quite 2 year old custom log home, 2500 sft, 2br- 2 1/2 bath on 9 acres. Construction cost including land, but not including construction loan interest-- $425k (mostly mine). |
postal code t1p 1l3 (Canada) DOM 30 showings - 0 other than realtor tour but have online vurtual tour 10 years old 3300 sq ft on 3 levels 5 BR 3 1/2 bath list $489900.00 |
- Posted by txquickdraw (My Page) on Tue, Jun 23, 09 at 22:05
Zip 78248 San Antonio Texas DOM 31/0 offers Showings 8 - all by appt Open house this Sunday 4 bedroom 2.5 bath/ 1900 sf 26 year old house/ updated feedback has all been positive list $207,500 |
I'm wondering if anyone gets negative feedback? Seems all they ever tell you is 'positive.' Must be something negative...no? Jane |
We actually closed yesterday (finally) asking price: $129,000, sold for $121,000 plus we paid some of the closing costs and added a home warranty. Days on market was right at 6 months. We had 2 offers, first one we took at $126,500 but their mortgage app fell apart. Put back on market and accepted second offer a few weeks later at $121,000+ other addins. 3 bed 2.5 bath in Knoxville tn. About 12-15 years old. Just put in a new 8ft privacy fence and other upgrades just to get more attention for it and help it sell (yes we took a loss, but at least its gone) We had approx 15 showings in total over the 6 months before we got it sold. I asked my realtor about feedback many times (by the way my realtor really sucked, she worked for the buyers it seemed more then she worked for me, and the buyers had their own agent!) Anyways, we did get feedback about painting one of the rooms that we had and another buyer had mentioned a loose railing at the top of the stairs. Nothing that we weren't able to fix for a few dollars and a couple hours on a weekend. We did take a large loss on the home, only in it 2 and a half years and put in tons of upgrades but sadly the company I work for shutdown and we had to move to a new job I found. I was told without the upgrades it would still be on the market. |
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I have a corner cupboard I would like to re-stain to match (as much as reasonable) my new qs oak cabinets. It was stained golden oak and finished with polyurethane many years ago. I have some of the cabinet stain. What is the process?
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Wood stain is designed to go on raw wood. Strip the finish using a chemical stripper, let dry, lightly sand and you will have raw wood. There are other techniques, but they involve different products and color matching skills. You have the stain and stripping and refinishing is the most direct route. |
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No marks and measures about 10.5" tall I believe it is called a trumpet vase art deco wheat pattern on the sides any help identifying this would be helpful |
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Brass? Bronze? Nice....art deco vase....but you knew that. Do NOT polish it!! Linda C |
Looks a little Elbert Hubbard-ish.... Look at Roycroft stuff.... |
- Posted by lazygardens (My Page) on Wed, Apr 21, 10 at 15:08
It's utter rubbish ... if I send you some postage, will you send it to me so I can recycle the metal? To me it's right on the edge between Art Deco and Art Nouveau ... that semi-Egyptian wheat motif shows up in both, but the ruffled rim is more Nouveau. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220593178100 |
- Posted by catpaws123 (My Page) on Wed, Apr 21, 10 at 20:35
Thanks Lindac Lazygardens are you saying that this is just scrap metal Thanks |
I don't see any barrier to enjoying it even if it has no antique value. I say that to defend the fact that I have lots of cheap and tacky old things in my house :-) They scratch my antique itch without scarring my budget. It's a pretty shape, nice motif. Display and enjoy, I'd say. KarinL |
- Posted by catpaws123 (My Page) on Thu, Apr 22, 10 at 9:01
thanks karinl |
LaztGardens was kidding -- Did you check out the ebay link he posted? |
I did, but noted the words 'sterling silver'. Maybe you're right, an unwise cup of coffee yesterday afternoon had me up at a silly hour. KarinL |
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I'd scrap that vase right onto my mantelpiece :) |
- Posted by catpaws123 (My Page) on Thu, Apr 22, 10 at 21:33
Thanks to all That is exactly where I put it |
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Jan 7th 2010 8:20AM I think that a better analogy then a band would be traditional family unit.
Tank is Dad: They are the head of the family, strong and influential. They stand up for the rest of the family and lead from the front.
DPS are Children: The family unit can operate with none, one or more of them but they make everything so much more enjoyable. They mess around and bicker but the good ones know when to behave.
Healer is Mum: Whereas the Tank and DPS all want to be in the limelight, Mum is happy to pull the strings from the background. Mum packs the lunches, patches up cuts and grazes and nurses us when we are sick.
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Bethel University is making plans to open a location in Cleveland.
Agreements are in the works for the university to offer classes out of the old First Tennessee Bank building on Raider Drive, the Cleveland Daily Banner has learned.
Bethel University is a private university in West Tennessee with six satellite campuses across the state and a heavy online presence, according to the school's website.
Some of the classes reportedly would be designed to meet the training needs of Life Care Centers of America and would involve both online and on-ground studies.
Even before the ink is dry on the agreement, Cleveland State Community College President Dr. Bill Seymour is expressing concerns.
"I contacted Mr. (Beecher) Hunter, Life Care president, for some clarification on what the status was, and he recommended that I reach out and talk to the president of Bethel University," Seymour said.
Bethel University President Walter Butler told Seymour the primary reason for the university coming to Cleveland would be to provide training for Life Care employees. However, Seymour said as a private college, it would not be limited to only specific classes.
"I understand the need and desire to train people for your business. But, immediately my concern is why do you not go to a local provider who already has the ability to do that?" Seymour said.
Seymour said it was his understanding that the university plans to make its programs open to the public.
"That is at a level that concerns me even more. I mean it's one thing if the training was only for Life Care … but if they come in here and start offering whatever bachelor's and master's programs they have available, then that really changes the landscape of higher education in this community," Seymour said.
The CSCC president also has concerns about Bethel's intent to offer associates degrees.
Seymour has sent a letter to the Cleveland State Foundation board of trustees outlining the issues, as he sees them.
"I wanted to make sure that they were aware of my concerns," Seymour said.
The Cleveland State president said any course that Life Care or any business in town would need is currently offered or could be offered at CSCC. He said the approval for the program would take about 90 days and could be approved at the next Tennessee Board of Regents meeting.
In April, Seymour met with Hunter and offered Cleveland State as a partner with the business to provide training programs.
Bethel is expected to focus initial efforts on facilities management and culinary arts, both likely to be associate degree programs.
In addition, Bethel reportedly is eyeing the opportunity to offer its nursing program and Masters in Business Administration.
Seymour said Cleveland State already offers a facilities management training program and has begun exploration into a culinary degree program.
He pointed out Cleveland State and Lee University already have RN and BSN programs, and Lee has a new MBA program. Seymour added that CSCC offers a number of workforce development programs and partners with local industry through its OneSource Workforce Readiness Center.
"I would love to have the opportunity to provide training programs for any company in our service area. I think that is part of our mission," Seymour said.
CSCC has partnered with Wacker to provide testing space and services.
As late as Wednesday, Bethel University's public relations office said the opportunity was being explored, but had not moved past that phase. The university's president's office could not be reached for comment by press time today.
In repeated calls to a Life Care representative, the Cleveland Daily Banner was told Life Care was not ready to make an official announcement. As of Thursday night, the individual had not received clearance to discuss the situation.
A fundraising event for the university featuring Oliver North was planned for Aug. 29 at Life Care Centers of America. The event would have served as a time to announce the agreement. The event has since been canceled because details of the agreement had not been finalized by mid-August. The Southern Association of Colleges and Schools has not yet approved the university to offer classes in this area. Classes would not be anticipated to start before Fall 2015.
Another concern for Seymour in having another college in the area offering associate degrees is that Tennessee Promise scholarships allow a student to take the equivalent of community college tuition and go to a private school.
The proposed site for the university was the previous location of First Tennessee Bank and is owned by Cleveland Development Enterprises II LLC, whose registered agent is listed as Forrest L. Preston, Life Care chairman.


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Heroic poem considered the highest achievement of Old English literature and the earliest European vernacular epic. It deals with events of the early 6th century and was probably composed c. 700–750. It tells the story of the Scandinavian hero Beowulf, who gains fame as a young man by vanquishing the monster Grendel and Grendel's mother; later, as an aging king, he kills a dragon but dies soon after, honoured and lamented. Beowulf belongs metrically, stylistically, and thematically to the Germanic heroic tradition but shows a distinct Christian influence.
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The August waiver wire is a tricky time of year. The ins and outs of the revocable waiver wire and its Byzantine structure is enough to send even the most astute fan for a loop. No matter how often those with boots on the ground insist it, most fans howl at the thought of their favorite player dangling where any scrub team can claim him.
Alex Rios is no stranger to the waiver wire, as his passing from the Toronto Blue Jays to the Chicago White Sox in 2009 represented one of the rare times where the August wire behaved like a "true" waiver wire – the Jays let Rios and his contract go to Chicago for nothing.
While the move freed up a spot for the Jays to play Jose Bautista full time, one can't help but think the Jays could have gotten something more than nothing for a player who posted nearly league-average offense and 99 steals for the ChiSox in 600 career games. But we digress…
Alex Rios was back on the waiver wire this August and was again claimed, this time by the Texas Rangers. Just when it looked like the 47 hour window for the two teams to make a deal would close and Rios would stay in Chicago comes news that he has, in fact, been traded to the Rangers for a players to be named later and cash considerations.
Leury Garcia is expected to be the player Texas will send to complete the deal. Whichever player they send must also pass through waivers, so Houston (the only team with a worse record than the White Sox) could potentially throw a monkey wrench in this part of the deal.
In the meantime, Texas has a new right fielder and the White Sox tanking continues unabated. Everybody wins!
Few players have ridden the rollercoaster of inconsistency quite like Alex Rios. Great seasons with the Blue Jays from 2006 to 2008, though seasons marked by his trademark uneven performaces. Great halves of seasons always teased and tormented Jays fans. One day, he'll put it all together, they dreamt in unison.
Until he became the White Sox problem, continuing on the same pattern of bad/good/bad, just spread across longer periods. Putrid when he first joined the Sox in 2009, nice season in 2010, bad again in 2011, and finally terrific last season. Shockingly, Rios threw off the shackles of his teeter-totter life with another strong showing through parts of 2013, arriving at .277/.328/.421 line with 26 steals and 12 home runs.
Even this season displays the tradition Rios ebbs and flows. Awesome April and May, bad through to the All Star break, and better again in the second half.
All the ups and downs distract from the reality of Alex Rios: he's about a league-average hitter with some power and good speed. He plays a strong outfield and possesses a very nice throwing arm. He's 32 years old, this is what he is.
The way he arrives at the production might be different but he's very, very similar to the player he replaces in the Texas outfield: Nelson Cruz. Cruz has more power and gets on base more but he doesn't run the bases nearly as well as Rios, nor does he possess Rios' gazelle-like* range in the outfield. Both players have been worth just under 9 fWAR over the last four years. It's uncanny, really.
Rios' contract calls for $12.5MM in 2014 with an option for $14MM in 2015 ($1M buyout). Rios receives a $500K boost to his option after being dealt. The Rangers have deep pockets and designs on the World Series, Alex Rios could easily play his way onto the 2014 club with a strong season next year.
Here is my thing with Alex Rios: as stated above, he is a league-average offensive player with more than just skills in the batters box to offer. But, given his ability to run read hot and then ice cold, a bit of good timing could turn this deal into gold for the Rangers. If he runs a bunch of fastballs and strings together a hot streak through September and October, Texas is laughing.
Should he fall apart as only Alex Rios can do, Jon Daniels won't hesitate to write a check that sends Alex Rios to free agency. At the very least, Rios is a better option than Engel Beltre, Craig Gentry and David Murphy, who might form a reasonable tri-headed platoon in an alternate universe. The Rangers, man. Flags Fly Forever in Texas and that is a glorious thing.
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I bought this pond kit 5 or 6 years ago on fall clearance and have been moving it around in the shed ever since. Finally gave the ultimatum, it either gets put in the ground this year, or goes in the garage sale. It worked! It involved me moving LOTS of flowers (craigslist!)and my son dug the hole for us and installed the pond itself. My husband then installed the old pump and waterfall area. Lots and lots of work and lots of little glitches had to be worked out, but it finally all came together. An old friend gave this pump to my dad many moons ago. After Dad passed away, Mom gave it to me and I've always wanted to add it to a water feature. We are enjoying the pond so much - it is drawing lots of birds and other critters. It's lovely to sit on the porch and listen to. Here's a few pictures and a link if you'd like to see the installation process. Arlene
Here is a link that might be useful: more pond pictures
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- Posted by jeannespines 4 (My Page) on Wed, May 23, 12 at 9:48
Very cool, luvs! Love all the limestone rock you used & that fountain process developed into a beautiful extension of the pond! Looks like you had good help, too! Now you've got some more 'history' at your place...that pump is a treasure! Yup, lots of hard work but well worth the results! Enjoy! I did! Jeanne S. |
- Posted by calamity_j z7bc (My Page) on Wed, May 23, 12 at 10:42
LOVE it!!! Great job! Love all the pics!!! That pic of son and grson is adorable!!!! You have just increased your yard enjoyment factorx10!!! |
Yep...you sure had some adorable help =] Lovely pond & ohhh that pump! I had, ahem, issues getting my lil puddle into the ground as well but 10+ yrs later, don't think I could live without it. Enjoy & TFS. ~digger |
Beautiful. Amazing how long projects can take to get started. It was worth the wait though - so pretty |
Oh my gosh that is GORGEOUS! Love it! |
Your pond is wonderful!! My hubby and I build us a pond(10' X 10'+ waterfall. But when he died I did not feel like I could keep up with all of the upkeep. so, I have moved and will some time in the future install a mini pond. Thank you for sharing! Jlily |
- Posted by marlene_2008 7 (My Page) on Wed, May 23, 12 at 21:33
WOW! Looks wonderful! I'm sure it was a lot of work, but the result really looks great. Love the old pump...perfect for a fountain! |
- Posted by nanatricia (My Page) on Wed, May 23, 12 at 21:41
Yes I love it!! looks great!! |
I need to know how you got the water to go out the pump. I have a pump and tried to put a hose up in there but it gets stuck on some piece of metal. Do I need to do that? Put a hose in the pump I mean. |
Really a beautiful area now & with all that great help you have some precious memories along with the pump from your folks! The adopted kitty looks so at home in the wheelbarrel, same color as she! How nice that is near the porch so you can hear that great sound of running water. Cleaned out the shed a bit too so you can go to yard sales this summer & get some more goodies! Win ,win all around! Jan |
Love your new pond and pump! I also have a pump that has been "around here' for a long time. You have inspired me to at least make a 'dry' rock pond for it to sit in. |
I'm jealous of your pump. I would love one for my pond. I could have hubby build me a little dock, install the hand pump. Then whenever I needed water in the back half of the yard, I could just pump it out of the pond. |
That turned out great! Glad you saved, rescued and reused all your "junk"! |
- Posted by luvs2click 5 Ohio (My Page) on Mon, May 28, 12 at 21:00
Thanks everyone! We're loving our little pond! kathy - about the pump - yes, we tried to run a hose through it too and there is a "stream straightener" piece that goes through the inside, making it impossible to run the hose through the pump. So we ended up attaching a piece of elbow conduit pipe on the bottom of the pump with silicone caulk and then attaching our hose to that. |
- Posted by spedigrees z4VT (email@example.com) on Tue, May 29, 12 at 14:00
Your pond and pump fountain are absolutely wonderful, luvs2click! I have serious pond envy! Your photos are great! I bookmarked your flicker site for future perusing. (The mop bucket planter is a great idea, and I love the kitty in the wheelbarrow. Did you ever decide on a name?) Love your groundskeeping helpers. Your little grandson is so cute! It looks like he was really into the pond task! |
Oh my goodness! You are exactly who I need to talk to! I have a hand pump, not exactly like it but I need to know how you got the water to go through it. My email should show up. Please help me out! I love your water garden, it's beautiful |
Thank you so much. I have had this pump for about 2 years and was about to give up. |
very nice |
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Hey, Hey, Hey, the latest skit from The Post Show is most fabulous and deserves your immediate attention. It appears the breakup of Bennifer caused shockwaves between these 5 friends. Those of you who enjoy this skit should check out their previous videos immediately. Oh yeah and the boys update every Monday and Thursday, so be sure to check back for more tomorrow![Post Show Video Link]
survivor toyland
Once upon a time, sixteen famous toys were selected
to partake in a savage game of survival and cunning deep in the jungle!
As the competitors began to congregate, they were confronted by smarmy
reality TV host Max Steel."As of this moment
politeness and fair play are out the window," he explained "You can be
the winner, or, you can be one of what will eventually become fifteen
sorry-assed losers!"
Photoshop Contest of the day:Worth1000
Theme: Invisible World 17 – Making musicians invisible.
See some of your favorite or most hated musicians disappear.[Worth1000 Link]
TVgasm Review: Save The Last Dance
"OMG. Like OM-F-ing-G. I like can't believe prom is over! Like, over! Guys, this is so sad. Only two weeks left in Laguna Beach senior year. Promise that we'll always be friends? Forevah and evah?
Yes, it was prom night on Laguna Beach, a momentous occasion that the online community has surely been anticipating ever since photos of the big pre-party
leaked to the internet. And I'll say this: I was not disappointed. This
episode came with all the silliness, drama, and pettiness that we've
come to expect not only from Laguna Beach, but prom season in
general. Plus, Cami the Vaguely Ethnic Girl popped up, so you know it
had to be a fun night on MTV. Just about the only thing missing were
some of those crazy Laguna parents. Oh wait, we had them too. Best
episode EVER!"
Did you miss the episode? Let TVgasm's fantastic recap fill your Laguna Beach void.[TVgasm Review]
Where are they now: Pussy Galore
"With the search for the new James Bond still ongoing, I've noticed the
press continues to open the age old debate about who was the best Bond
(Connery, obviously) or sometimes, the best Villain (I'd vote Oddjob).
Left out in the cold too often are the Bond Girls – the Pussys, Honeys,
Kissys and Plentys. I thought it was about time to redress the balance
and ask Bond Girls – where are they now? (Part one – Connery's Chicks.)"
Take a look at the Bond girls from our past and see what they've been up to these days. Oh and don't have a hissy fit because Halle Berry is not featured on this list.This site, much like me, pretends that whole incident never happened…[Yes but No Link]
Chris Cagle speaks out: Who needs the whiskey now?
Chris, you aren't the only who is angered and saddened by this news. I guess this means you have another album coming out in the near future eh? Be sure to send your soon to be ex-ho bag a 'thanks for nothing' from all of us. [Cagle's message]
Lost: Complete Visual Analysis of Hatch Interior
"This is my analysis of the Hatch interior. I've analyized all the
videos of the hatch interior. And its taken quite some of time to get
the map right. Especially to let every screenshot "fit" with the
constructed map. It was frikin' hard to get everything to match . But the result is a very precise map.
I will show an analysis of several areas of the interior. Some screenshots are accompanied by a
corresponding map which shows the camera view in color.
This is very helpful in understanding what you are actually looking at
in context to the rest of the interior. It also proves the map is
accurate. I hope you enjoy these context-maps… "
Geekiest / most glorious thing ever. Fans of Lost are sure to be impressed and scared for this man's work. He must be an ex-trekkie or something.[ Link ]
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Woman loses 75 lbs for a chance to dance with Bono. Apparently the only dance move Bono knows is that 'lasso' one.
Dominic Monaghan believes the Beatles are bigger than Jesus, Buddha, or Flying Spaghetti Monster.
Dumbest Quote Ever In the History and Future Of Mankind, courtesy of
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Stevie Wonder hopes his new album will inspire our government to treat
people with more respect. Says he hasn't seen enough of that lately.
Punkers unite, no, wait, Punkers fight. Still no definition of a "low-rent fake mockney two-bob runt".
Marilyn Manson launches his own perfume. Will not smell like teen spirit.
Pierce Brosnan complains about being dumped as James Bond, insists his demand for $40 million had nothing to do with it.
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domination scheme.
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A Brown Turkey and a White Triana were planted in containers on May 30. Both trees seem to be doing well. Each has a lot of small green fruit. One fig on the Brown Turkey was mature. I ate it and it is quite good.
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Do you have photos? It will help, depending on how much growth it has grown. from experiences of others who have white triana, it is usually a late season, may not be as early as Brown turkey. Bass |
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I just got back in after walking out back, noticed that areas that are normally soggy with poor drainage aren't now. Not that they're dry, the weeds seem to be doing OK in the trenches, but the flatter area across the road from there where the manure pile is isn't squishing as I walk on it. And the deep pit at the end of the trellised trenches I filled with chicken manure and sawdust, where I had all the volunteer tomatoes last year b/c it's glacial till underneath and doesn't drain (I never had to water those volunteers last summer) has only a couple small weeds growing in it. There are planty of tall weeds (mostly dandelions but some ragweed and mullein) growing in between my raised beds, not too many in the beds, even where the burlap and hay blew off. The wild blackberries look like they're doing fine. We've had just over an inch of rain this month (TWC says we had 1.5" last month but Dad didn't mention any the night before we got back from vacation so I'm not sure about that day). We got just 1/100" yesterday (supposedly - my rain gauge broke and I haven't replaced it). We're expecting more next week, but of course it's too far away to tell how much - just a 20-30% chance early in the week and supposedly more later. But it worries me that we're getting 1-1.5" when we should be getting 4.5" a month this time of year - it's been below normal for almost a year now, we didn't even get as much snow as normal. Reservoirs and ponds are still looking OK, but our springs aren't running like they normally do - the one that feeds our pond isn't making it all the way there any more, and the one that runs along our driveway (we had to put in a culvert when we built) disappeared a month ago. The only thing that's keeping things green is the snow melt and that won't last much longer. I'm wondering if I should scale back (though I've spent money on supplies, incl. lumber for hoophouse) this year, just sell my plants and keep a small garden near the house for us. I haven't sent in my fee for market yet. I just don't want to spend $200 for market, $50 for insurance certificate, and bust my butt (and run the well dry) all summer hauling water out back to keep the beans, edamame, 100+ tomatoes and 50 peppers watered and then find (like I did with peppers and onions last year) that it wasn't enough and I don't harvest (m)any. |
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That was us here in Kansas and many parts of the Midwest. There was no rain from late March until the end of May. Then two, 1 inch rains in June, then basically nothing until early September. We ran drip irrigation all the time. That with plastic mulch, we were able to conserve all the moisture we could. Put this together with weeks of near 100 or over 100 degrees and that was the summer of 2012. We stuck it out, grew, planted, seeded and had a good year. Tough it out, do the work and cut back on marginal crops. I cut out low end crops and focused more on the big sellers, melons, tomatoes, cucumbers and zucchini. Jay |
That was last summer here too - wet in May, then June though Aug was pretty dry and hot, hauling 100 gal of water at a time 1000ft and filling gallon jugs from the barrels to water by hand when gravity didn't work well enough to water 100ft long rows. I've already planned for this year to grow greens, cukes, squash, and determinate tomatoes near the house (then replace them with cool-weather crops when they're done). The tomatoes did OK last year out back (though some of my cherries reverted to currant-size), so did the potatoes. But I got late blight along with everyone else so don't want to plant potatoes there again, planned on beans which were a pretty good seller when I had them. And I did a few edamame plants near the house, I know that's a good seller and I have seed from 2011 so I figured I'd plant it in the trenches so wouldn't have to water as often (I do have drip hoses for those 40 ft rows, seemed to work in 2011 for the month that I needed them with barrels up in the truck). Of course 2011 was the exact opposite - we got 12" of rain in August (after a pretty wet May/June and a scorching hot July) and everything drowned or got diseased/rotted. Can't do melons - too much space and too much water. But I'm wondering if it's worth planting the beans, edamame, tomatoes, peppers (which never do well for me - at least not bells - I've got some non-bell sweets to try this year since people don't want the hot chiles) where I have to haul water, even if they are good sellers? I sold about $500 of tomatoes last year, but that won't pay for market fees, insurance, and gas. And I can't guarantee that the green beans, peppers, and edamame will grow well without rain. Then again I have over 200 tomato starts, had planned on planting 120 of them. I just don't have room for all of them near the house, even if that's all I planted. Would you do it 2 years in a row is the question? Is this the "new normal"? I don't want to be hauling water all summer long every year. Just don't know if it's worth it (time/gas and precious water). |
Found long-range drought outlook and it doesn't look bad here, supposed to improve (though I don't know if it'll be "normal"). So I guess I'll plant as planned. Even if I have to get DS to haul buckets from the pond so I don't have to run the well. Western states look bad though. |
Here is a link that might be useful: US Drought map
- Posted by myfamilysfarm 5b (My Page) on Thu, May 16, 13 at 17:41
You could start saving water in rain barrels to use when necessary. I found when we didn't have a well, that when I saved the water, I didn't worry about rain much. When the barrels got low, it seemed to rain. I only had to transport water maybe 10 times in 10 years. I wasn't trying to irrigate with in. When I did plan on having irrigation water for the garden, I bought a swimming pool and use it for backup water supply. Of course, we cooled off in it, just like the 'ole swimmin hole'. We NEVER washed the produce in this water. Just a thought. |
The problem is, I have to put the barrels in the truck, so unless I can find a way to pump them, I'd have to leave the full barrels in the truck until I needed them. Not only does that mean I can't use the truck for anything else, I also don't think it's good for the suspension. It was a pain at the end of the year, but we did set 1 barrel up to collect rain at the house, so at least we would have water to flush the toilets in case we ran dry or lost power (which we didn't, even during Sandy). The only thing downhill from the house is woods. But now we have 4 barrels so I can set up a couple and use them to water the house garden too in a pinch (though they won't work with the soaker hose I laid out, esp. not uphill LOL, so I'd have to hand-water). But if USDA says conditions will improve at least 1 stage, I'll go ahead as planned. We're only Moderate Drought right now, I think we can handle Abnormally Dry without too much of a problem. Worst case we'll buy a foot valve and a pump for the pond (just to irrigate with) and borrow my dad's generator/welder to run it. Hope it won't be 2x/wk every week. |
- Posted by myfamilysfarm 5b (My Page) on Thu, May 16, 13 at 21:30
Keep 1 barrel empty, but it in the truck when needed. Pump a full one into the empty in truck, then load that now empty into truck, and repeat. We are officially out of any Drought and have been since winter. We didn't get much snow, but enough moisture to keep 'water healthy'. I used to have 10-12 barrels in different locations, including 4-5 in our smallest greenhouse (10x20) to help keep the temps up during the winter months and to use after plantings began. By the time, plants were big enough to go outside, the barrels were empty. I believe the lack of water is becoming the 'new normal', and we will have to deal with it. The mayor of our local city has purchased rain barrels (the expensive ones) and having people paint them to win a contest. I've been telling people to use rain barrels for years now. |
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This Week's Prometheus News Roundup – June 2, 2012
A whole lotta Prometheus news happened this week as the Ridley Scott directed scifi film began its run in cinemas in selected countries such as France, Netherlands, Russia, and the UK. Sad to say that Prometheus isn't the "masterpiece" that many of us were expecting and, as a whole, critics' reviews were merely above-average. And as far as I can tell, user reviews are pretty much in line with the critics.
In any event, here's a recap of the notable stories that emerged this week that didn't make it as an article here on PrometheusNews.
Box Office:
Huffington Post
The Hollywood Reporter
Total Film
What Culture
Den of Geek
Bloody Disgusting
Screen Daily
ComicBookMovie (Josh Wilding)
ComicBookMovie (Rorsach)
Giant Freakin Robot
Horror Fix
Financial Times
Time Out London
This is London
The Guardian (UK)
Wired (UK)
Metro (UK)
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Best Gallery Show -- Group Denver 2004 - This Year's Model, Cordell Taylor Gallery
Readers' Choice: Imaginary Friends and Found in Flatland, The Annex
Art has been doing a double take on pop art lately, with a lot of new creations looking forward to the 1960s. A variety of pieces of this type were put together in This Year's Model, a great group effort mounted last summer at the now-closed Cordell Taylor Gallery. This pop-y show included some of those smart-looking paintings of slogans by hot young artist Colin Livingston; bas-relief wall sculptures of animal forms on armatures by John McEnroe, one of the state's premier conceptualists; and provocative, gilt-framed beefcake shots of homeless guys by nationally known photographer Cinthea Fiss.


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The Minnesota High Tech Association (MHTA) named The Toro Company a recipient of a 2013 Tekne Award for Agricultural Technology. The awards recognize the most innovative Minnesota businesses and organizations for technological breakthroughs. Toro's PrecisionSense site assessment system received top honors in the agricultural technology category, which focuses on improving productivity, efficiency, and environmental sustainability. The system is used by golf courses and sports fields. It utilizes mobile soil sensing and data collection technology to measure the variability of key site attributes, such as soil moisture, salinity, compaction, and plant performance. This can help improve water and resource efficiency, and can produce healthy, more uniform turf. The 14th annual Tekne Awards took place on Nov. 6 at the Minneapolis Convention Center, and recognized 16 small and large companies. Award categories spanned the manufacturing, agricultural, electronics and healthcare industries. The program also honored innovations in education, mobile devices and applications, and safety and security.
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48th Mayor of Barnet sworn into office
Published Wednesday 16 May 2012
Councillor Brian Schama has become the 48th Mayor of Barnet after being officially sworn in during the annual meeting of the council at Hendon Town Hall last night (15 May 2012).
Councillor Schama's wife Lynda will be Mayoress, with Councillor Kate Salinger appointed as Deputy Mayor and Councillor Brian Salinger as the Deputy Mayor's escort.
During his mayoral year Councillor Schama has chosen to support two charities: Barnet Carers, which helps and supports over 5,000 carers, and Barnet Hospital – with any money raised helping to pay for specialised ward equipment for nursing stations.
The new Mayor said: "I treasure the honour of being the 48th Mayor of our wonderful borough.
"I'm proud of what has been achieved in Barnet over many years, it is a pleasant and safe haven for all.
"Times are difficult for the UK with the current economic climate but we should never forget to celebrate all that we have here for which we can be justifiably proud - our residents, schools, hospitals, local businesses and our multi-faith community living together in harmony."
Councillor Schama, who was born in Golders Green, has always lived in the borough. He has been married to Lynda for 38 years and has two sons.
Prior to being married, the couple mentored children in the care of the Norwood Orphanage.
Councillor Schama has forty years' experience managing many leading retailers and manufacturers in the UK and abroad.
During Councillor John Marshall's mayoral year in 2009, he chaired the Mayor of Barnet's charity appeal, helping to raise £83,000 for Chai Cancer Care and Barnet Carers.
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Envelope, please: Oscar leaders deemed nap-worthy
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Nancy Zwiers was genuinely psyched to see "Lincoln," but something happened between the ticket purchase and the credits. Off screen, that is.
"Yes, I fell asleep," confessed the 54-year-old marketing executive in Long Beach, Calif. "I only have two clear memories of the movie: a bunch of old white guys sitting around talking and Sally Field in a perpetual state of angst."
That was shortly after its release in October. Fast forward to January and a dozen Academy Award nominations for the 150-minute epic and another accolade has emerged: nap worthy, with and without apologies from the snoozy to Steven Spielberg and Daniel Day-Lewis.
Movie napping is almost certainly as old as cinema itself. It strikes the overtired and the well-rested, film nuts and occasional theatergoers. Some blame it on soporific popcorn. Others on the enveloping darkness and a comfy seat. The theater is too hot. The theater is too cold, too crowded, not crowded enough ...
Any which way, cinematic snoozing seems near epidemic proportions this awards season with buzz plus ZZZs for "Lincoln," the 157-minute sung "Les Miserables," the 169-minute "The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey" and others cited as good for a snore, but not always due to extra minutes.
Forget the theory that movie watchers of a certain age are more heavily afflicted.
"I don't realize I do it and I wake up 20 minutes later and then everyone's, like, you were asleep," said Rose Liu, 31, a program manager for a Los Angeles nonprofit. "I snore and then it's embarrassing, but I really can't control it. I wake up and I'm re-energized!"
Liu has movie dozed on dates and out with friends, some of whom have nudged her awake at the request of strangers sitting nearby.
She, too, was done-in by "Lincoln." She's not a fan, but she also caught some shuteye during the two-hour "Argo," which she liked. A power napper in regular life and a moviegoer about once a month, Liu acknowledged it would make sense to avoid late screenings, but that's usually not possible.
Lay watchers aren't alone. Professional movie-watchers fall victim, too.
One entertainment writer, who asked — for obvious reasons — that his name not be used, once fell asleep at an intimate screening for the 1994 satire "Pret-a-Porter," sitting right next to the director, Robert Altman. And not just a few winks but a 45-minute power nap about 10 minutes in.
"I don't think he noticed," the writer laughed.
Count psychologist Jennifer Thomas, 43, in Greensboro, N.C., as a nap person outside of theaters and in. With four kids at home, she watches a lot on Netflix but gets out to the theater about once every three months.
Thomas decided to take in "Life of Pi" in 3D on the recommendation of friends who enjoyed the book. In a rare moment of parenthood, Thomas was alone — in the dark, in a cushy seat.
"It was somewhere with the boat and the water and the lion, and they had settled into the story, and I just had this feeling that, 'I'm just going to listen to the movie for a while and I'm just going to close my eyes,'" she recalled of her 15-minute break from the largely symbolic action.
The last movie nap for Thomas before that was "Platoon," of all things. "I slept right through the last half of that movie and I was in high school," she laughed.
Who among us hasn't been there, at least once?
Collin Roberts of Manhattan has seen four of the nine films nominated for a best picture Oscar: "Argo," "Beasts of the Southern Wild," "Life of Pi" and "Lincoln," the latter definitely not her thing but a favor to her husband.
"The soliloquies started. That was something I didn't know about Lincoln, his tendency to give long-winded speeches at inappropriate times. The elderly lady next to me fell asleep and started snoring softly and before I knew it, I was nodding off, too," she said.
Entertainment Weekly has dubbed this the most thrilling race for Oscar in years, but the length of some contenders has earned attention. Over at "Saturday Night Live," a recent skit suggests the next two "Hobbit" movies morph into 18 instead, including "The Elf Queen Tries to Pick an Outfit."
The writers at SNL included this mock review from film critic Peter Travers: "I fell asleep for 45 minutes and when I woke up the dwarves were assembling an Ikea dresser."
In real life, Travers liked parts of the Lord of the Rings prequel but hated the whole 48 frames a second thing and thought an hour could have been chopped.


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This is my usual go-to antiperspirant these days. I buy it in the Powder fragrance, which I like and find mild and inoffensive. I'm not a heavy sweater but I hate that clammy, sticky feeling under my arms on hot days so I do like something that works at keeping me totally dry on a normal day. I find most sticks leave my underarms feeling drier and comfortable due to their powdery texture, but they can also stain my clothes quite badly (and some may even bleach my darker shirts). And although gels have the benefit of being clear, I find that most of them can get sticky in high temperatures, which doesn't feel nice. And I just hate roll-ons because they're annoying to apply, they take long to dry and tend to dry to a loose powder and get on clothes. This Invisible Lady Speed Stick does a pretty good job at keeping me dry and comfortable (only find I get a bit clammy under extreme conditions, which is rare), and it doesn't stain my clothes like other sticks, but there often is still a small amount of white residue on my dark coloured shirts. It's not as bad as other sticks though and I find it always washes out easily and never leaves any permanent staining or bleaching. I also find that this doesn't tend to dry my skin out as many other antiperspirants do, but it isn't moisturizing either. So, it's really not bad, but I guess you just can't win 'em all!
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AHMEDABAD: Close on the heels of Rs 7 lakh theft from a State Bank of India ( SBI) ATM in Bodakdev, another attempt has been made at an ATM of the same bank near Chanakyapuri on Saturday night. The thieves, however, had to abandon their attempt to break the10mm thick steel sheet after cutting the outer metal surface.
According to Sola police, Uday Gandhi, manager of SBI's Chanakyapuri branch, filed a complaint on Sunday about the theft attempt. As per his complaint, two persons entered the ATM kiosk in Raghuvansh Arcade with a metal cutter and tried to cut the ATM with the help of an external power source.
"In the CCTV footage, we can see two men working on the metal cover of the ATM with their faces covered. After working for nearly 15 minutes, they tried to get the slice apart but failed in their attempt. The duo then left the place. The ATM had Rs 20 lakh in the cashbox at the time of the incident," said a Sola police official. On October 24, a thief wearing a helmet entered an ATM near Bodakdev and stole Rs 7 lakh from the machine
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There must be an acceptance of the full spectrum of basic skills and recognition that there is a wide variety of such skills beyond the mere computational if we are to design a basic skills component of the curriculum that enhances rather than undermines education.
We recognize as valid and genuine the concern expressed by many segments of society that basic skills be a part of the education of every child. However, the full scope of what is basic must include those things that are essential to meaningful and productive citizenship, both immediate and future.
The agreement among parents, educators, and mathematicians on the need for teaching basic skills with greater effectiveness unfortunately does not yet extend to a common understanding and acceptance of exactly what these basic skills should comprise.
Some groups narrowly limit them to routine computation at the expense of understanding, applications, and problem solving. This would leave little hope of developing the functionally competent student that all desire.
It must also be recognized that individual capacities, interests, and future directions might call for different emphases and different selections in matching basic skills to individual needs.
The time and energy that teachers and programs should be devoting to building beyond minimal foundations are sometimes skirted, being considered risky deviations from the minimal targets on which educators believe they will be judged. There is great pressure today to use all such time, energy, and resources on overkill in the minimal target areas even though little added productivity may be achieved.
Rather than fostering a return to some acceptable common threshold of performance, the back-to-basics movement tends to place a low ceiling on mathematical competence—and this at the onset of an era in which daily life will be more deeply permeated by multiple and diverse uses of mathematics than ever before. Under these circumstances, even if improvement in rote computation takes place, a citizen who cannot analyze real-life situations to the point of recognizing what computations must be made to solve real-life problems has not entered the mainstream of functional citizenship.
It is dangerous to assume that skills from one era will suffice for another. Skills are tools. Their importance rests in the needs of the times. Skills once considered essential become obsolete, and this is likely to increase in pace and scope as advances in technology revolutionize our individual, social, and economic lives. Necessary new skills arise from the dimensions of the mathematics pertinent to an age of population explosion, space exploration, economic and fiscal complexity, and microelectronic wonders. Time and space for including these new skills in the curriculum must be purchased by eliminating the obsolete.
Insisting that students become highly facile in paper-and-pencil computations such as 3841 x 937 or 72 509/29.3 is time-consuming and costly. For most students, much of a full year of instruction in mathematics is spent on the division of whole numbers—a massive investment with increasingly limited productive return. A small fraction of that time is spent on the skills of problem analysis and interpretation, which enable students to identify and set up the computations needed. For most complex problems, using the calculator for rapid and accurate computation makes a far greater contribution to functional competence in daily life.
Common sense should dictate a reasonable balance among mental facility with simple basic computations, paper-and-pencil algorithms for simple problems done easily and rapidly, and the use of a calculator for more complex problems or those where problem analysis is the goal and cumbersome calculating is a limiting distraction.
Reasonable standards of time-effectiveness and cost-effectiveness should be applied to the use of instructional time, where the criterion is the productive applicability of the learned technique to real-life problems.
Professional knowledge of future trends, industrial, financial, engineering, and scientific need, and the demands of daily life are all better arbiters of what is currently essential and what has become obsolete than our nostalgia as parents or teachers.
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2.1 The full scope of what is basic should contain at least the ten basic skill areas identified by the National Council of Supervisors of Mathematics' "Position Paper on Basic Skills." These areas are problem solving; applying mathematics in everyday situations; alertness to the reasonableness of results; estimation and approximation; appropriate computational skills; geometry; measurement; reading, interpreting, and constructing tables, charts, and graphs; using mathematics to predict; and computer literacy.
2.2 The identification of basic skills in mathematics is a dynamic process and should be continually updated to reflect new and changing needs.
2.3 Changes in the priorities and emphases in the instructional program should be made in order to reflect the expanded concept of basic skills.
2.4 Teachers should incorporate estimation activities into all areas of the program on a regular and sustaining basis, in particular encouraging the use of estimating skills to pose and select alternatives and to assess what a reasonable answer may be.
2.5 Teachers should provide ample opportunities for students to learn communication skills in mathematics. They should systematically guide students to read mathematics and to talk about it with clarity.
2.6 The higher-order mental processes of logical reasoning, information processing, and decision making should be considered basic to the application of mathematics. Mathematics curricula and teachers should set as objectives the development of logical processes, concepts, and language, including:
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We adore game developers, but we rarely associate them with athletic prowess or unbridled badassery. Sorry Cliff "Don't Call Me Cliffy" Bleszinski and Jade "Please Leave Me Alone" Raymond, you may be cooler than Richard "Lord British" Garriott, but you'll never be as cool as Uber Entertainment animator Aung Zaw Oo, who is known on YouTube as AZO.
In a video posted about a month ago, AZO revealed his day job at Uber, a studio in Kirkland, WA which is currently developing XBLA shooter Monday Night Combat, and illustrated how his stunting, skateboarding, parkouring, and martial arting apply to his work as a character animator. Check it out:
There's even more flippy-kicky awesomeness on his YouTube channel. We just hope that his real-life skill translates well to Monday Night Combat so we can pretend to be as cool as him. The game will be released later his year, and looks a lot like Team Fortress 2, only with more lasers and dancing chicks. It could be a sleeper hit. Eat the trailer with your pupils and let us know what you think:
While AZO's skillitude is particularly inspiring, we're not trying to suggest that everyone else in the industry is an unkempt puddle of nerd. It's just a job like any other. To prove our point, take a look at this completely unironic article we posted sometime around forever ago: Top 10 sexy sexy game gurus!
Above: Just kidding, Lord British is cooler than Cliffy and Jade combined (that's them exploding behind him after foolishly looking directly into his awesomeness)
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- Eli
- October 20, 2012 - 15:00
Bob, I thought Danny's "God Guard Thee Newfoundland Goodbye Show" was as bad as it could get, Dunderdale got a notch closer at the convention. Gawd, she was pitiful and her "bought & paid for" audience had to suck it up.
- EDfromRED
- October 20, 2012 - 12:32
The Provincial PC's are a pitiful pack of sanctimonious charlatans. They seem offended that we do not bow down before them and conveniently forget the insult to democracy that Bill C-29 is. I think the sole reason they now have created this Office of Propaga... I mean, Engagement , is so that they can try and influence the local media to get them to focus on anything but what this Government is up too when it comes to shady deals and cover-ups. I would not trust them to operate a garbage dump, let alone this Province.
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- October 20, 2012 - 09:13
We are in a desperate time politically. I truly belive that Lorraine Michael's speech to the NDP convention this morning and Dwight Ball's to the Liberal's convention in 3 weeks will say anything greater or meaningful at all. I repeat, we are in desperate times politically and the public is poorly served by that fact.