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So as you all Jake doesn't have a job with a respectable income, and thus at present is going no where in his life.
Now I am planning a holiday to Europe around mid June, just myself and my bestfriend, and I am seriously thinking of making him the ultimatum that if he doesnt have a respectable income by the time I jump onboard that aircraft I will be single entering Europe..
However I wanted all your thoughts first?
Is this wrong of me to have an ultimatum like this?
Many thanks.
You are single regardless of when and where you may go. I'm not sure if a demand like that could change anything about his employment status.
Unless of course, your engaged or something. I know I don't care for ultimatum's, but not really sure how he would react.
Ultimatums are never a good idea, since you then have to follow through with them, etc. If you're only in Europe on a brief holiday, not sure it's worth tanking your existing relationship to do it. Sounds like something he needs to address whether or not you have a pending holiday.
"You don't know you're beautiful." - Harry Styles
From what I've heard, it's pretty much impossible to get a good job in this economy. My mother tried for years and years, and just recently got one, only because of connections my father had.
Nobody can just whip out a decent job because you told them to.
Besides, there's more to success than just social and economic status. But I'm always the one with the unpopular opinions, anyway.
Lol it's not even a 'decent job' I care for, just any job. Any job with a respectable income thats not involved in crime in anyway.
And yeah I would support him if he was actually trying to get a job but seeings as he doesnt want one at all, its kind of difficult.
Your options should always remain open. Don't make a commitment that you might later regret!
But it's so frustrating! I work so hard for my money and he doesn't even lift a finger! Like fair enough if he was actually TRYING to get a job I would of course be supporting and motivating him, but he actually doesn't one....
...is convinced that in his own mind he essentially "owns" you. And you, in turn, are enabling him in all his needs... but one!
Sorry... but love (or, at least, the idea of love) can do that. It's selective emotional myopia!
I'd suggest that you go back and review your thoughts of nearly two months ago:
Think seriously about just treating Jake as an "acquaintance." I think it will ultimately prove to be an exercise in futility to continue in the hope of re-programing his now well-defined propensities.
Time and energy by dumping him. His unwillingness to even look for work speaks volumes about his personality. I have a female friend in a similiar situation with the only exception being she had a child by this guy. He also has another daughter by a different girl and sees her once or twice a month. Guess who plays the role of caretaker and parent? My friend essentially takes care of his other daughter as well. He works now, because she couldn't due to having a baby. She still refuses to leave him, even after putting up with verbal abuse from him. Frankly, it's a no-brainer decision for me, but not for her. Don't put yourself in a dead end situation like that. Move on girl!


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Title: "EVERY (GOOD) DOG HAS ... his (show) day. Here's the pick of 2,282 of them at Maidstone Dog Show".
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EADS Socata couldn't have asked for a better PR representative than John Hinshaw, the American customer who placed the first order for its new TBM850 six-seater turboprop aircraft. Hinshaw strode into a room full of (mainly French) journalists who'd spent the last couple of hours being bombarded with maximum cruise speeds and market forecasts, TBM850 baseball cap firmly clamped to his head, and spoke about his new toy with the zeal of a true believer. He chose the aircraft because of its ease and comfort to fly, and crucially because of its speed (467 km per hour cruising at 31,000 feet, incidentally), he said. This was the message Socata's chief executive Stéphane Mayer had been trying to get across to us in the briefing and he looked delighted that he was being backed up so forcefully by this loyal customer. (Hinshaw already owns a TBM700 aircraft, of which the TBM850 is an upgraded version.)
Socata's vice president of marketing Andrew Knott insisted that Hinshaw's appearance at the press conference was merely a happy coincidence, not a "fix" – Hinshaw was in
Hinshaw fits the usual profile of a TBM850 customer perfectly – 80% of sales are in the
Later that day we got the chance to experience the aircraft ourselves, with a series of demonstration flights. I can confirm that yes, it is comfortable for passengers and that yes, it does go fast. As for whether it's easy to fly, I've no idea, but our pilot didn't seem to have too many problems, and for the passengers the views over the Pyrénées were spectacular.


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Kati Haycock
President, The Education Trust
One of the nation's leading advocates in the field of education, Kati Haycock founded The Education Trust to promote the high academic achievement of all students, pre-kindergarten through college. In particular, the organization seeks to close the gaps in opportunity and achievement that consign too many low-income students and students of color to lives on the margins of the American mainstream.
Before leading Ed Trust, Kati served as executive vice president of the Children's Defense Fund, the nation's largest child advocacy organization. Earlier, she was founding president of The Achievement Council, a California organization that assisted teachers and principals at predominantly minority schools in improving student achievement. She also served as director of outreach and student affirmative action programs for the nine-campus University of California system.
Kati speaks about educational improvement before thousands of educators, community and business leaders, and policymakers each year. A native Californian, she has received numerous awards for her service to our nation's youth, and serves as a director on several education-related boards, including those of the Carnegie Foundation for the Advancement of Teaching, The New Teacher Project, and the Hunt Institute.
Charles M. Payne, is the Frank P. Hixon Distinguished Service Professor in the School of Social Service Administration, at the University of Chicago. He also is an affiliate of the university's Urban Education Institute. His highly acclaimed book So Much Reform, So Little Change: The Persistence of Failure in Urban Schools (Harvard Education Press, 2008) examines the intractability of failure in urban school districts and challenges policymakers to avoid one-size-fits-all remedies to improve our nation's schools.
Payne has spent his career exploring issues related to urban education and school reform, social inequality, social change, and modern African-American history. With support from the Carnegie Scholar's Program, he is studying the dynamics of school reform in other countries relative to how reform is perceived and carried out in the United States. He is a past acting executive director of the Woodlawn Children's Promise Community in Chicago.
Charles M. Payne
Professor, University of Chicago
A 2004 Carnegie Scholar and the winner of a Senior Scholar grant from the Spencer Foundation for the 2006-7 school year, Payne has taught at Southern University, Williams College, Northwestern University, and Duke University. He is a founder of the Education for Liberation Network, is the co-founder of the Duke Curriculum Project and of the John Hope Franklin Scholars program, and serves on numerous other education boards, steering committees, and editorial and advisory boards. He holds a bachelor's degree in Afro-American studies from Syracuse University, and a doctorate in sociology from Northwestern.
John King, New York State Education Commissioner, assumed his current post in 2011 after a two-year stint as deputy commissioner. During those two years, he led the state's winning, $700 million Race to the Top application, and has been a key player in aligning state standards with Common Core, guiding teacher development, and devising strategies for turning around failing schools. Before his work at the New York State Department of Education, Dr. King was managing director of Uncommon Schools, a nonprofit charter school management organization, and a co-founder of Roxbury Preparatory Charter School in Massachusetts. At Roxbury, he and his colleagues established longer school days, strict rules of conduct, and teacher accountability measures, raising expectations for poor children. Roxbury Prep's efforts led its low-income students of color to outperform their white peers throughout the state, earning the school a Dispelling the Myth Award in 2008 from The Education Trust. King holds a bachelor's degree from Harvard, a law degree from Yale, and a doctorate in education from Columbia.
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Sonja Brookins Santelises, Baltimore City Public Schools' chief academic officer, interned in the Boston Public Schools as part of her studies in the Harvard Urban Superintendents Doctoral Program. She went on to lecture at Harvard, and became a senior associate with Focus on Results, where she coached superintendents and trained school leaders in five major urban districts. She then returned to Boston as assistant superintendent before transitioning to her current role in Baltimore in 2010.
At the beginning of her education career, Santelises was director of professional development and teacher placement with Teach for America, and she founded, taught, and was curriculum specialist at a year-round school in Brooklyn. She has a bachelor's from Brown, a master's from Columbia, and her doctorate in education from Harvard.
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Delia Pompa is the vice president of programs at the National Council of La Raza, the largest national Latino civil rights and advocacy organization in the country. There, she oversees NCLR's work in the areas of school reform, early childhood education, and charter schools. She works collaboratively with allied organizations on efforts to improve education policy.
Pompa holds a bachelor's degree from Trinity University and a master's from the University of Texas, San Antonio. She has a particular expertise on issues related to English-language learners.
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Ed Trust's artist-in-residence, playwright-researcher Brooke Haycock mixes interview with performance to produce incisive chronicles of opportunity and achievement in America. Based entirely on interview, her issue-focused documentary dramas tell the stories behind the national data, driving straight to the heart of debate around equity in schools.
Featured at this year's conference, her docudrama Buzz is a testimony to hope, hard work, and high achievement in America's high-poverty schools, chronicling the educational struggles and ultimate triumphs of schools, educators, and students who refuse to settle for anything short of real success.
Brooke Haycock
Artist-in-residence, The Education Trust
First Generation
Every family is proud of that first kid to apply to college, but some students face unimagined obstacles. Documentary filmmakers Adam and Jaye Fenderson, accompanied by cast members Cecilia Lopez and Dontay Gray, will screen and discuss First Generation this fall at Ed Trust's national conference. The film tells the story of four high school students who set out to break their respective families' cycle of poverty and bring hope to their relatives and communities by pursuing a college education. Check out http://firstgenerationfilm.com/about.php for more information.
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Kawah Ijen: An Indonesian highlight
Climbing volcanoes. It's an activity that repeats itself regularly on a journey through the Indonesian archipelago. There's something majestic about those towering masses of rock and ash that calls us to conquer them as if to show them who's boss. And usually we return with stories of magnificent views and how it felt like being on the roof of the earth. But not all volcanoes are equal.
Lying deep in East Java is Kawah Ijen. It's not a classic conical-shaped volcano like you so often see in Indonesia. In fact, it doesn't even really have a peak and thus is simply labelled a crater (kawah). So if there's no peak, are there views? Certainly there are. On the trek to the crater, stunning views of the surrounding landscape, including across the Bali strait to West Bali, unfold as you rise higher. There are also incredible views into the crater itself, but it's not these views that are the lasting impression for most visitors to Kawah Ijen. Instead, people return home with memories of the sulphur miners carting unbelievable amounts of raw material from the bowels of the earth.
About 300 metres below the crater rim a series of pipes funnels sulphur gas so that cold water can be used to cool and solidify it. From here, men load up bamboo baskets with their valuable haul and begin the arduous journey up the wall of the crater to the rim, from where a further three-kilometre hike is required to reach the drop-off point, where trucks wait to cart the cargo to Surabaya for export.
Each of the 400 men working on Kawah Ijen earns 625 rupiah (roughly six cents) per kilogram of sulphur delivered to the truck. With the distance between crater and truck being so great, men are encouraged to carry as much as they physically can on their shoulders. They usually haul 65 to 75kg at a time, but sometimes carry as much as 115kg. Depending on the geological activity and resultant sulphur output, most men will attempt two trips per day and earn about double the daily legal minimum Indonesian salary and about four times as much as a typical maid. It really is lucrative work.
But the conditions are hellish. Some men report that once they commence work they find it very difficult to stop, as they are prone to sickness when inactive. Most men rarely take a break and when they do, it's a slow process to build up enough strength again to carry the incredible weights they are capable of at their peak.
Even though Kawah Ijen and the men of this volcano are incredible sights to witness, far fewer tourists come here compared to the masses in Yogyakarta and Gunung Bromo. And even then, most people arrive on organised tours originating in Yogyakarta and including sunrise tours of Gunung Bromo and onward travel to Bali. Making this journey independently can be more expensive than a package tour, but has the added benefit of flexibility.
For independent travellers, the best way to get to Kawah Ijen is to hire a return ojek from Banyuwangi for about 150,000 rupiah, a jeep for 400,000 rupiah or self-drive motorbike for about 60,000 rupiah. The route from Bondowoso is an option, but also requires the use of ojeks and is a major detour from the main highway through Java, adding extra time to your trans-Java journey.
For accommodation in Banyuwangi, Hotel Baru is popular among travellers, with rooms priced at 40,000 rupiah, or 90,000 for air-con. For Bondowoso our pick of the cheapies is Hotel Slamet, with standards going for 55,000 rupiah and superiors 67,000.
To get from Bali to Java, see here.
Hotel Baru
Jl. MT Haryono 82-84, Banyuwangi
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Jalan PB. Surdirman 45, Bondowoso
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10 Responses to "Kawah Ijen: An Indonesian highlight"
# nathasjaon 02 Sep 2012 at 11:47 am
Thank you for your information. It helps a lot with planning my vacation.
But i have a few questions…
Me and my boyfriend are going backpacking through java. We are going from Malang to mount bromo (the back door) and want to go from mount bromo to kawah ijen.
Is it easy to go from cemoro lawang to the train station in probolinggo?
We are taking the train from there to Jember and take the bus to Bondowoso.
But than….
We want to go to kawah ijen, and go on to banyuwangi (ferry to bali)
Is it possible to go with an ojek while you have your backpack on??
and is it easy to hire an ojek on top of kawah ijen to banyuwangi??Kind regards,
Nathasja -
# Adam Poskitton 02 Sep 2012 at 1:10 pm
OK. I can see why you would want to go from Probolinggo to Jember by train and the Jember to Bondowoso by bus, but my advice would be to just take a bus direct from Probolinggo to Bondowoso. This is how you do it from Bromo:
1) Catch a public bus from Cemoro Lawang to the Probolinggo bus terminal for 25,000 rupiah. It would be best to catch an early bus. There may be tour guides asking you to join their bus for a higher fee, but it isn't worth it in my opinion if you're an experienced traveller and are happy to rough it on public transport.
2) Catch a bus from Probolinggo bus terminal to Bondowoso. There are direct buses, so make sure you get one of those otherwise someone might try to put you onto a bus bound for Bali and then throw you off the bus at a random intersection. Don't go to Jember.
3) Once in Bondowoso there is plenty of accommodation. My advice is to stay there overnight unless you really want to be at Ijen for sunrise. But sunrise on Ijen really isn't necessary.
4) From Bondowoso it is a bit of a hassle to get to Ijen by public transport and you will definitely have to catch an ojek at some point along the way. My advice is to get an ojek from Bondowoso to Kawah Ijen and then have the ojek driver wait and take you all the way to Banyuwangi. This will be quite expensive because of the terrible condition of the road, but you should be able to do it for about 200,000 rupiah per person (cheaper if you bargain hard). To do it cheaper, catch a bus to Sempol (25,000) and then an ojek to Ijen (30,000) and then an ojek from Ijen to Banyuwangi (100,000 or more if you're desperate). If you want to see sunrise at Ijen, just catch a bus to Sempol from Bondowoso and then an ojek to Ijen where there is simple accommodation in huts. There are always ojeks at Ijen (sometimes just sulphur miners going home) so don't worry about that.Whatever the case, the trip from Bondowoso-Ijen-Banyuwangi is definitely a good option if you're happy with ojeks. Ojeks will generally be happy to carry your bag on the bike between their legs.
It's great to hear people wanting to take this route. It's rarely done because most people are on tours and most people don't know how to do it. But it really is an experience. Make sure you check out the other posts on this blog for more info on the back ways to Ijen and Bromo.
# nathasjaon 07 Sep 2012 at 4:05 pm
Thank you for your information.
Is it maybe faster to go from probolinggo with the train to banyuwangi?
we can take the next morning an ojek to the ijen and back, so we can go
without our backpack. Is it easy to find some one who can bring us up there?Another question:
We are taking a jeep from malang( Tampung) to mount bromo, can the driver bring us al up to our accomodation?
is there a fee we have to pay on our way to cemoro lawang or only when we go up to mount bromo?
and do you advice to reserve an accomodation or will there be enough
rooms free in august.Kind regards,
# Adam Poskitton 08 Sep 2012 at 1:01 am
I can't remember if it's faster by bus or train, but the trains run less frequently than the buses. So you might have to wait a couple of hours for a train but the buses depart all the time. It's likely that the bus will drop you off in the outskirts of town and you will have to catch an Angkot into town. It's a similar story with the train as the station is not in the centre of town.
The jeep driver will probably just drop you off with other passengers (if there are any) in the middle of Cemoro Lawang. Cemoro Lawang is tiny and all hotels in town are within 5 minutes walk of each other. This won't be a problem.
A fee is payable when entering the Bromo area, but I doubt they will ask you for a fee of you're coming from the other way. Just pay the fee if you head back into the Bromo area later.
August is the high season and I can imagine it will be busy in Cemoro Lawang. If you can book your accommodation the day before, that will help to secure the hotel you want. If you don't book in advance, it's not like you will have to sleep on the street. It may just mean you will have to grab a room that you didn't really want.
# kenton 09 May 2013 at 4:00 am
bisa tanya ada trip dari bromo ke ijen buat 2 org . lepas ijen pulang ke surabaya. rapa harga?
# Matton 16 Jul 2013 at 9:55 am
Hi Adam,
thx for the information above. Lots of good info and Kawah Ijen sounds indeed very interesting. Is there an alternative to ojeks for the trip from Banyuwangi to Kawah Ijen and then onwards towards Bondowoso or Probolinggo to reach Bromo? We are three people so that a car may be better. What would be costs in early August? Also is it worth to reach the crater @ night to see the sulphur flames?
Matt -
# Adam Poskitton 16 Jul 2013 at 10:15 am
Matt – Yeah, you can get a jeep for Rp. 500,000 from Banyuwangi to Ijen which drops you back in Banyuwangi, but I'm sure they would take you onto Bromo if you asked and paid them extra. If you don't want to use motorbikes, just get the jeep to take your from Banyuwangi to Ijen and then ask the driver to arrange onward transport from Ijen to Bromo – there are plenty of agents that would be willing to help out in this regard. It's also possible to get a tour agent to take you the long way around to Ijen from Banyuwangi, but in my view it's not worth the extra time required.
I haven't seen the blue sulphur flames, but was told that it doesn't happen every night. I'm sure it would be worth seeing if you could ask someone whether it's happening at that particular time or not.
# Claudiaon 18 Jul 2013 at 4:10 pm
everybody who is interested in visiting the Kawa Ijen should watch the film Working man´s death before going there….you won´t find it too interesting after having seen this documentary on the extremes to which workers will go to earn a living…really horrible!!! -
# Charlotteon 19 Jul 2013 at 9:14 am
The blue flame isn't really worth it, because you can only see it from very far because you re not allowed to enter the crater and I red on some website that they put it on manually, so that it isn't spontaneously everyday. If you go before sunset, put on some nice warm clothes and maybe some gloves, because it can be really cold. But it's really an amazing place to go! One of the most special things I have seen in my life!
# Adam Poskitton 19 Jul 2013 at 11:36 am
Not sure what the situation is at night, but certainly during the day you can enter the crater despite the signs saying it's forbidden. Simply pay a worker to guide you down to the lake and where the sulphur is coming from. And you definitely do need the guide as it can be dangerous for the inexperienced down at the sulphur outlet.


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PTC lacks a strategic plan for repairing roads, paths
On the fiscal side of Peachtree City, a lot has happened, some of it can be confusing, so it is good to see it pulled together for a "Big Picture" overview. All the numbers provided on the budget, streets and paths are from official city documents.
Infrastructure, meaning building, facility, etc., repairs are being paid for via Facility Authority bond debt. Homeowners pay for the debt via their property tax bills. The city pays for the debt just like you pay for credit card, mortgage and other loans, with ongoing payments of principle plus interest.
The money from the bond is either already spent or soon to be spent. But it does not cover all the repairs we need. So, we will be needing more money in the near future while still paying for the current bond.
On stormwater, the money from the initial stormwater bond of 2008 is spent, but we are still paying for the debt. Recently, line items from the budget were transferred to stormwater, more stormwater debt was taken on and the stormwater fee was increased to over 230 percent of last year.
So, we are currently paying for the 2008 debt plus the new debt via property tax.
In about 3 years we will be looking for new funding for stormwater, having spent the recent money from the new loan. That means another fee increase and more debt while still paying for 2008 and the current debt at the same time.
On the property tax total millage rate, the rate in 2010, paid in 2009, was 5.553. In 2011, paid in 2010, it was 6.783. In 2013, paid in 2012, it was 7.178. That is an increase of 1.63 mills.
The total millage rate for 2018, under the current budget approach, is projected to be 7.690. That is a total increase of 2.14 mills from 2010 to 2018.
The budget model projects increases in home values of 2 percent per year beginning in 2014. There is no rollback on the millage rate included, meaning your tax bill will increase even if the millage rate does not increase.
Moving on the streets and paths, it is a good idea to first get a basic understanding about asphalt and where our streets and paths stand on needing maintenance.
Asphalt is given a "condition rating." Condition rating is a term for a numerical "grade" given to the present condition of the asphalt.
[A grade of] 100 means newly laid or resurfaced. As time goes by asphalt wears and breaks down due to traffic, environment, etc. The deterioration accelerates as the road gets older because the asphalt loses strength, flexibility and other attributes
The life of a street, in Peachtree City, is about 10 to 15 years. The target rating for resurfacing is below 80. Using numbers from GDOT, etc., asphalt deteriorates at an average rate of about 2.5 points per year.
The last evaluation for Peachtree City was done in 2012.
With that said, in 2012 we had 251 streets, totaling $6,624,369, and 103 paths, totaling $2,971,080, below 80. We had 8 tunnel and bridges need maintenance totaling $2,600,000. That is a total of $12,195,449 of maintenance as of 2012.
Currently we have no funding source for this maintenance.
That brings us to the 2-year SPLOST proposal that will be on the ballot this year. If passed, Peachtree City is expected to get $14,600,000 over two years. Staff intends to spend it over five years.
Staff proposes to spend $2.6 million on bridges and tunnels, $2.5 million on paths, $2 million on new paths and $7.5 million on streets.
At the end of the 5 years, we are looking at unfunded work on 11 paths rated 70s, 187 paths rated 80 to 89 and 264 streets with ratings of 80 to 89, as of 2012.
Remember the deterioration Rate of 2.5 per year means many of those will then be 12.5 points lower in rating, as in 60s and 70s. Projects now in the 90s will be in the 80s.
The cost of the SPLOST is about $200 per year, $400 total for the two years, for an average household. That is an average of $80 per household per year over the 5-year period the money would be spent.
To summarize, you are looking at future new taxes and fees via another facilities bond, stormwater bond, millage rate increase and increased property tax due to rising home values. There is a potential SPLOST. You are also looking at spending continuing to exceed revenue and a shrinking reserve.
As a business operates on a business plan, cities operate on comprehensive strategic planning. We have no such planning to prioritize needs over nice to haves. No plan to bring services into alignment with what citizens have told us they really want and prioritize. No economic development plan. No caps on spending.
We desperately need a comprehensive strategic plan.
This is where we stand via the course we are on to 2018 and beyond.
Don Haddix, mayor
Peachtree City, Ga.
Instead of wringing your hands about not having a strategic plan, and since you are an advocate of such a plan, and since you have run a business, and since you seem to have a lot of time on your hands, why don't you sit down and write up a draft of a strategic plan.
You're a strategic thinker are you?
Get cracking Mr. Haddix, time is short. You only have until November to get this done, it can be your legacy to the city. It will make interesting reading, it will be both enlightening and entertaining. Make sure you use spell check and include plenty of Excel spreadsheets with pivot tables and minitabs.
Anxiously waiting, I remain PTCO
I have been on the board for one of the youth sports associations and I can tell you the Mayor's numbers are tortured at best.
He is correct that currently only a portion of the city uses the facilities. BUT he neglects to consider how many residents have used these facilities over time. For example, my neighbors four children all played soccer at BSC, three of them are now in college and off the rec rolls. But I would count them as using the facilities over time. When we consider how many residents (or children) have ever used the facilities well that number grows.
But what the Mayor and Mrs. Fleich miss is that these excellent youth sports organizations and the related facilities are one of the pillars that make PTC one of the top places to live in the US.
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Neil, Rec Guy and Spyglass all have it right: these amenities are what makes PTC great, not what we do NOT have(except for high crime). Especially Recreation which gives a lot of opportunities for pre-teens and teenagers to do something constructive instead of "hanging out" somewhere or spending 16hrs a day in their parents' basement in front of an Xbox or the Internet.
You can cut and gut but pretty soon you destroy the reason why so many people want to live in PTC. The Mayor's crusade on Recreation has been on-going for a while and makes no sense to me. Deinhart ready to declare war over how poorly the contracted median-mowers and landscaping folks have made PTC look below average at best DOES make sense to me.
We know, we know, it might cost a little more. We can live with that if you have a real plan and explain it instead of a) throwing money around or b)blaming everyone else besides yourself because they don't desire to survey everyone or form committees to figure out whatever....I'm looking directly at Haddix on that.
Landscaping is important, not just in relationship to property tax values, but also to businesses looking to relocate here. The city needs to get its mojo back, and fixing this is part of that process.
As promised, I created an outline of the a plan to achieve a Comprehensive Stategic Plan, You can find it HERE
The above article shows the current path we are on is a failure.
I have a solid Plan that is what we need. The City Manager also wants a Comprehensive Strategic Plan and has said so at Budget Workshops and Council Meetings.
For any variation of a ZBB to work, it is also needed. HERE is a good document from GFOA, whose HQ is in Chicago, on ZBB. They have over 17,500 member states, counties, provinces and cities in the US and Canada.
What has been lacking to achieve a Plan? A Council Majority who understands their personal opinions are not a solution. My reelection with two supporting votes is what is needed to make it happen.
Peachtree City Mayor
I am afraid this is not a draft of a a plan but a process. You do know the difference between a plan and a process don't you?
Get cracking on that draft plan for us Mr. Haddix, present it to us in a cogent and well thought out way. It is possible you know, some people can actually do this. Really. I'm not kidding you.
As PTCO stated correctly, that's a process of adopting some kind of unknown plan. It also yet again revolves around "Survey Says!" instead of sticking your damn neck out and saying "THIS is what I envision and advocate, and if you like that, support me with your vote."
Had way enough of this Mayor and November is getting a lot closer.
You have about a day to convince two lackeys to run for council. At least Mr. Brown was smart enough to recruit his a year in advance.
Your re-election - Are you kidding me. Who the hell would vote for you. You have done nothing but damage the reputation of the city. Trying to be nice now, and speaking with some intelligence isn't going to get you re-elected. Very little can be done for you at this point. I pray you find peace in your life, but you will never get my vote. EVER!!
You are approaching this exactly the right way - no confrontational arguments with a man who won't be part of the solution,now or next year. He can be very infuriating and look what happened to poor Larry #13 or #14 below- the dreaded ((((EDITED AND BANNED))).
Calm is best, not voting for him even better.
Only 10 more Tuesday's and the sun will shine on our wonderful community.
My hope is that the Core Infrastructure SPLOST will pass. This would spread the pain to out of county shoppers, while shoring up our reserves in order to "out-grow" our problems. For this to work, we will need to elect people that will impose fiscal discipline on our budget.
That being said, we need to have a plan b. The most logical plan b would be a series of cuts, that would possibly still need to be followed by a millage increase.
I have outlined my platform elsewhere. I'll just talk about the relevant parts here. One is hiring a public service director. This would lead to efficiencies in the Public Service departments- we would eliminate duplicate elements of management and infrastructure. That's the smaller of the two pieces.
The biggest part would be rolling out zero based budgeting. City council would set the budget and staff would spend accordingly. Now, staff comes to us with a budget and justifies why they need the total amount of the budget. We then set the millage according. This is backwards. We have the estimates of our intake- that's the magic number we must budget towards.
There is a plan.
Do we have a Public Service department? Is that a new one? I thought that was your department. Maybe Betsy's on a busy day?
Or do you mean Public Works department? Do you mean you want to dump Mark Caspar now and King & Ernst & Imker are going to dump Chief Skip?
There is your plan?
We would roll all public safety employees into a department of public safety. Sorry I was unclear on that.
is what you meant. Thank you.
Please don't discuss employees like they are dice. They deserve better. This is not a game to them.
I agree we need to fund our roads and paths. Not happy that it is not covered and we depend on the passage of a splost (which by the way, I will not be approving on my ballot)
So, Mr. Mayor. You laid out the problem, now provide a few solutions for us to consider.
Rather than to keep repeating the layout, I will create a presentation on my website and give a link to it.
The SPLOST is a band-aid. It does nothing to cure the problems I laid out in our Budget. It just delays solving them.
Just wanting to say I am not avoiding your question, just have been busy with City and BOH issues.
I will comment on the idea of a Public Safety Director cutting costs. The research I have done to date states quite the opposite. It adds a person to the Chain of Command and usually causes conflicts with the structure.
But, as I said elsewhere, it is a subject open to further discussion from both sides until enough data is found to make a sound decision. We definitely are not there at this time.
I also addressed using a ZBB and gave a link to the pros and cons. It is also far from a proven solution.
As well, the Charter requires the City Manager to produce a proposed Budget from which Council proceed.
We hire people skilled in certain disciplines to advise us and present proposals for each area of the City. The notion that Council has that knowledge in and of itself is absurd.
The proposal also fails to include the essential element of citizen involvement. There also is no required Comprehensive Strategic Plan from which to work.
As you can see, the proposal is there will be five individuals, not skilled in the individual departments, base on personal opinion, assigning spending caps. A true recipe for failure.
In ZBB's, a Plan is created, Council approves it, and departments create Budget proposals within the guidelines set. Then Council reviews, question, etc. and finally a Budget is approved.
As I said, I will create the summary for how we need to proceed and give you a link when finished.
Peachtree City Mayor
If you had spent your whole term with this kind of thoughtfulness and reasoning and none of your usual bluster, I'd be on your bandwagon.
The PSD position is an intriguing concept, but this is also an election year. I don't think too many people running for office are going to say that it will actually save money because one or even two "chiefs" might get dumped in the process. If things are left as they stand right now and a PSD added......well, that's just another layer of mgt and another 100K+ salary no one wants to add, at least I hope no one thinks that would be a prudent idea. So yeah, I get where the PSD is coming from and it likely means some reorganization AFTER the election, which I would be fine with myself. Let O'Connor run the FD as he's doing now, get rid of Skip (finally) and let someone from within take charge of the PD and report to the PSD like O'Connor would.
I've operated in my work life under "normal" budgeting and zero-based budgeting and didn't see that much difference actually. What's the first thing as a person in charge of budgeting looks at when it comes time to prepare the next year(s) budget? WHAT THEY SPENT LAST YEAR AND WHY. Then, you go from there. In a political arena, this becomes who can "sell" their budget the best and, like all monetary things, what one(dept) gets, the other doesn't. It's a finite pie with dept heads fighting over the slices and it can come down to who is more persuasive. In this case, like you stated quite correctly, you are dealing with Councilmembers who are NOT experts on each department. This is an idea that needs more study before adopting, I agree.
I'm not opposed to ZBB, but I also don't whole-heatedly endorse the concept either.
Unfortunately no one, business or city operates in a vaccum time capsule.
You need to go back 4 years to see where we were.... Facing a multi million deficit that was somewhat if not totally ignored.
Is the Glass Half Empty or Half Full? Who were the players that resolved the budget crisis who are now being called TAX AND SPENDERS?
Please, PTC has come a long way and no thanks to our mayor. Is there more work to be done, absolutely but let's leave this to a newly elected mayor and council.
Voters need to focus on all the facts and what has happened over the past 4 years.
You want facts? Here are some.
Yes, we hear the repeated mantra of facing a $22 million deficit in 2010. Fact is now we have $15 million in existing debt and another $20 million needed for paths and roads.
That is a current problem of $35 million without getting into Stormwater etc.
Are we better off? No.
Nor did the infrastructure repair push begin with Fleisch. It began with Doug Sturbaum and me in 2008.
Nor did the 3 give us the AAA bond rating. We achieved it in 2008.
Nor is Rec the salvation of PTC. Tournaments cost far more than they bring in.
That brings up how the H/M is being spent. It is being spent on the fields and financing a County wide sports effort solely by the CVB. They have hired a tournament specialist, expenses included, proposed a pay increase for the CVB director higher than what the city employees received and a $5,000.00 bonus. The want to pay grants to those who recruit tournaments here. They also want to restrict field uses to tournaments only on weekends, etc, no citizen usage.
As I said before and now has been confirmed by sources in the economic field, the main sources of H/M tax is not from visitors, but from our industried and businesses. So it is a tax on PTC residents and it is being felt.
I had pushed for usage numbers of Rec by residency instead of lump numbers. Only about 7,000 PTC citizens use our Rec. About 1,500 are into organized sports.
This is the kind of thinking you believe is good for PTC? I do not.
All of these kinds of issues are accounted for in a Comprehensive Strategic Plan. It is no wonder the majority does not want one since it goes against their priorities, etc.
So, most assuredly, voters need to focus on the facts, records and agendas.
Peachtree City Mayor
The Comprehensive Strategic Plan Proposal
Is in the Updates Forum
Your [[[EDITED]]] for Rec is well known throughout the city.
It's a far third in budget items. Cutting more Rec is not going to save the city.
You are picking fly [[[EDITED & BANNED for violation of terms of service]]] out of pepper which defines your 6 years in office.
The Splost buys 8 to 10 years for maintenance and repairs and if the city cuts $2 million in operating budget each year and sets up a reserve for maintenance then there will be $20 million in 10 years plus $2 million a year there after.
Do we need a committee to cut $2 million or $3 million a year?
Maybe just leadership that forces department heads to tighten up, cut, and take other cost saving measures.
Most people who budget put 5-10% fluff in their budgets.
Demand 5% from every department head and if no personnel are proposed to be cut, you didn't cut deep enough!
PTC Recreation and Special Events Department requires all sports associations which use city facilities - football, softball, little league, big league, indoor hockey, soccer, swimming, lacrosse, basketball, & BMX (sorry if I left anyone off the list) to report information on participants by residency and to pay facility use fees (field use fees) established by City Council. The fees are $15 for PTC, $25 for Fayette County, and $50 for out of county residents (per season). You were present at the council meeting last May when the fees were raised. The additional revenue generated from field use fees covers 50% of the annual recreation budget and is in addition to the $39.00 allocation, per resident, collected through our annual property tax bills.
The participation numbers quoted in your statement above are grossly understated. Our largest sports organization has over 2,800 registrants per year and 67-70% are PTC residents. Once you add in all of the other groups, the number is well above 3000 for youth sports alone.
I totally agree with your position on the CVB and outside tournaments/running events etc.. Since the CVB is funded through hotel/motel taxes, they are going to do everything in their power to put "head on beds" regardless of the cost or impact on other city services and residents. PTC should put its residents at the top of the priority list. We don't need movie tours and lavish tourist centers.
One last comment, please stop issuing debt to pay for the past 10yrs of neglect. You can't borrow your way out of debt. PTC wasted $515k on renovating the old rec building for seniors to play cards, $667k for the bubble to support the swim teams, and yet more money to fix the library roof. Over 45% of the bond issue to just 3 projects. PTC needs vision, focus, and strong leadership. Infrastructure just doesn't wear out overnight. It's not complicated; you have to save funds to replace items, which wear out.
There is nothing wrong with my facts. They come from Staff.
I am the one who pushed for users to be reported by residency. It use to be just the total number of users only, which has no value when looking at Budgeting and fees.
I also have been part of setting the fee structure and levels from 2008 on. Remember, it use to be PTC and everyone else, just 2 fees. I pushed for the 3 level.
You referenced one sport, I will reference another, BMX. Only about 10% are PTC residents.
I actually went through the association spreadsheets and ran totals. About 1,500 live in PTC, including adults.
We do not charge property tax per capita, but per household. The cost is more like $114 per household, whether they use Rec or not. The majority do not, so they are paying for no service to them.
On the CVB, that is another areas under scrutiny.
By State Law and their incorporation papers, "heads in bed" is not their goal. Their goal is bringing conventions, tourism, etc to PTC. Heads in beds is a consequence of the goal, but not the goal itself.
Contrary to what some think, the hotels do not pay the H/M tax. They are only the collection agency for the City. The CVB works for the City, not the Hotels.
The CVB is a valuable asset to PTC as long as it fulfills it mission.
We are in absolute agreement the residents of PTC are job one. Selling homes, etc is not the purpose of anyone on Council or Staff.
On debt, taxes, etc, we have to find another way, thus the Comprehensive Strategic Plan. On the Needs Assessment Committee Survey, there is so much anger about debt 90% said no more without voter approval.
As I said before, to do change takes a 3 votes. I am ready and Staff is ready, but will whoever gets elected to the Council Posts also be ready?
Peachtree City Mayor
The Comprehensive Strategic Plan Proposal
Is in the Updates Forum
Is your fundamental argument against properly funding recreation is because everyone in PTC doesn't use it? If so the argument is not sound. I have resided in PTC for 29 years and I have never used the roads in Stoney Brook Plantation, but I still pay for them. I could reasonably argue I have not utilized the vast majority of PTC's infrastructure, so why should I have to pay for it?
At the recommendation of the Rec Dept, City Council increased field use fees so the amount paid Fayette County (non PTC) and out of county participants would be comparable to the amounts contributed by a PTC resident through their tax bill. The total contribution to PTC's general fund is at least $125-150k per year. How's that compare to the Gathering place, newly remolded Rec Admin building, or library?
People choose to live in Peachtree City because of: excellent schools, the path system, saftey, amenities, and recreational opportunities.
As for the "heads on beds", I have a hard time taking your comments seriously. The goal of CVB/Sport Tourism/Conventions is to create tax revenue for PTC. CVB funding is from the tax, so more tax=more funding. Isn't that how they justify their existence? Reading back through City Council minutes on the CVB, I noticed where Vansssa Fleisch thanked the CVB for bringing LAX tournament to BSC the summer. Really? The same tournaments have been using BSC each June for the past 4 years. The LAX association brought the tournament PTC, not CVB. They has absolutely nothing to do with it. CVB is only looking to take credit for it. Bottom line.
Rec Guy. I never said a word about not properly funding Rec. That is exactly my goal.
I represent 35,000 people in PTC. Rec is a non essential, by choice, service while roads are essential service. You many mot use roads A thru M but do use Roads N thru Z. Everyone pays for all roads because roads and paths serve everyone in the Community. Many do not use any Rec at all.
Sorry, but Rec is not nor never has been a primary reason people locate here. Paths, schools, safety and sense of neighborhood are.
On the CVB, read the State Law at DCA, etc. Everything I listed is for revenue production to the City from sales tax, H/M etc. It is not just about H/M.
Your arguments show how badly we need a Comprehensive Strategic Plan. There are a lot of people who will dispute your arguments. We cannot keep on viewing funding in a parsed approach.
I appreciate your time in responding. I understand my arguments may be be faulty, but I don't view recreation as non essential. In my opinion, the path system is PTC's largest "recreational" activity. It can be labeled as a alternative transportation system (i.e. same category as a road), however, it's used for way more than just getting from one place to another - walking, biking, rollerblading, jogging, skateboarding etc.. Is it essential? No. I can still get to work and the grocery store without it. The difference is, its more popular than other "recreation" and therefore not considered for elimination or special user fees. If City Council passed a $15 user fee to every resident who who used the path system, it would be political suicide.
Regardless of our different perspectives, the fact remains, recreational funding has been under attack for years and when it does become available it is squandered on projects with no economic value like the Gathering Place, remodel of the former recreation building, and the pool bubble.
PTC needs a plan, fiscal responsibility, and strong leadership. We don't need more statistically irrelevant surveys or special committees of select individual to determine a course for the city to follow. The fact that our city's leaders have to rely on these types of gimmicks just shows how far out of touch they are with the needs/desires of the average citizen.
Discussion is healthy.
Non essential simply means a city can keep functioning without it. In no way does it means unwanted or without value.
The paths are not Rec, they are in fact legally roads. In fact, they are the only roads some can drive on for medical or other reasons. So they are essential.
Add in biking on city street, in example, does not make them Rec. Rec is a secondary usage. Rec, in turn, is not transportation. So, roads are versatile.
On the cart fees, they are what they are because State Law caps what can be charged. Otherwise the fee would indeed be annual.
Another strange law is we cannot safety inspect carts. Remember those that caught on fire?
The Gathering Place is Rec, just different from what you view as Rec. Many who use it say the fields are too costly.
As for the pool, don't get me started on that money pit. I wanted to make it summer only and get rid of the Bubble. But, to not get stuck with extreme liability I had to vote for it on the condition the foundation was replaced. Remember my warning and what was found under it?
The majority of PTC wants Rec to be self supporting, not on their dime. They are not concerned with providing Rec for non PTC residents.
As for the survey, it was statistically significant. You can claim otherwise all day, but it was.
How are leaders supposed to formally know what the citizens want without asking in some meaningful way? Think of what you are saying.
I have lived here 26 years and I believe I am very in touch and understanding of what PTC wants. I believe the survey and One PTC nailed it correctly.
A TON of people talk to me from all interest backgrounds, pro and anti police, fire, and yes, Rec. There is no singularly shared opinion.
That is the reality in PTC. We will never have answers that please everyone.
Fleisch, Learnard, Dienhart and Imker do not rely on anything but their personal opinions. How is that working out?
Peachtree City Mayor
The Comprehensive Strategic Plan Proposal
Is in the Updates Forum
Your comment "Fleisch, Learnard, Dienhart and Imker do not rely on anything but their personal opinions. How is that working out?"
Please no campaigning to me. Based on behaviors exhibited at the City Council meetings I have attended, none of you are the right choice for PTC's leadership. As to your comments on surveys, governments have operated for hundreds of years without having to choose their direction through responses to a survey. We can argue about statistically significant sample sizes and sigma levels all day, but it wont change my opinion. Only one result is achieved from polls and surveys, and it is a middle of the road consensus which allows politicians to make decisions on how many people they can anger and still get re elected. We need leaders who are not afraid to make tough decisions which lead us in the right direction.
Rec Guy
Not running for Mayor
It wasn't a campaign comment, it was a statement of fact and history. So, the question of how is it working out is relevant into seeing your point of view on their approach.
You didn't answer the question. You diverted to rhetoric that avoided the issue completely.
I could also toss in how has that hundred of years of not listening worked out?
On the survey, a professor declared the survey significant. So, if you have a difference, it would be with him.
Bottom line here is I have fought uphill battles for change in the City. Those changes have improved efficient at the Fred, Tennis Center, City Hall and more. They have saved around $1 million a year of taxpayer money.
Just as you are doing now there were citizens expressing the same arguments on every one of these changes. Where are they now? Not complaining.
So, yes, I have and will continue to make the tough decisions even when faced with strong resistance.
I think we have reached the point of agreeing to disagree. But, it has been a good conversation.
Peachtree City Mayor
The Comprehensive Strategic Plan Proposal
Is in the Updates Forum
The truth is it's irrelevant... because it's not true. I am a Dienhart supporter. I have had multiple conversations with him, and he is not one to act without careful consideration and research. The mayor is leading you down a path that he is using to "stretch the truth" about his competition. His insistance on arguing tells me (and almost everyone else) that this city needs a new direction. One that doesnt lead to us getting sued every 15 minutes, and one that outlines a budgeting process that Dienhart laid out. Even if it does require a change to our city laws. Mayor Dienhart will be the leader that this city has sorely lacked for at least the last 8 years.
Thanks for the support.
You seem to be saying only pay for what you use?
I don't use the Senior Center, but I see the benefit for the City. Same with other things we offer. Why live here if you do not want to contribute to the betterment of PTC?
There is a percentage benefit to PTC for each facility. A proper percentage is not an issue, but the bulk of the cost falling on the property owners is.
Review or learn the law of marginal return when looking at services. It applies to Rec. In example, the pool does not sell homes or add value to homes.
You do not seem to want to admit our Rec services are out of alignment with what the citizens want. Our demographics have changed significantly but the mind set of some is still a decade or more old.
We need a Plan, which we have never had. The opinions of 5 elected does not automatically mean agreement with the voters. Really, they don't agree with each other!
If you believe you are correct, you should also believe the Plan will support your thinking. So should Rec Guy and a couple of others.
Peachtree City Mayor
The Comprehensive Strategic Plan Proposal
Is in the Updates Forum
Please correct me if I am wrong, but the pool foundation issue was either related to updated codes that we had to adhere to, lack of as-built documentation, or poor installation and inspections.
Which directs me to the recently replaced library roof.
Now that it is complete, do we have all the necessary documents and possibly a bond for the roof?
Who is now in charge of documenting the information should we need this in the future?
Hopefully, we have personnel unlike the water dept that provide regular service, visual checks, and maintenance.
Can you tell us how all of this is managed and improved under your watch.
The pool issue began when we were shown drawings of the foundation.
Having been raised with a Dad who was in the construction trade as a supervisor, I immediately saw it was poorly installed and would not last.
What that means is they didn't set forms, just dug rough trenches and poured concrete into it. It was thin in places, narrow in places and overall was a pour no competent company would ever had done.
That got the ball rolling with nothing to do with codes at that stage of the game. Fleisch, Learnard and Imker said they were going to vote proceed, even though the contracted company said on the old foundation there would be no liability or warranty from.
Amazing, to say the least.
Doug and I agreed to vote for it if the foundation were replaced. We were stunned they would even give a moments thought to proceeding as is.
When the foundation was ripped out, electrical and other code violations were discovered, just as I warned and feared.
The lack of documentation was never a legal issue, but it was a major frustration to Doug, Staff and me.
So, it began as my observations based on knowledge and experience and then code and other legal issues became the driving force.
On the roof, you better believe we have the documents. I am so tired of old construction lacking records and generating financial and other issues time after time.
Staff is also frustrated and we now have new procedures in place to track all these things, along with maintenance schedules, records etc.
Records are maintained within each department and at City Hall with administration.
This is another example of hows things use to be done that will not be done that way in the future.
Also ended is the policy of low bid getting the job. Utter nonsense way to do business. Low bid can give you a bad product that will haunt you in the future.
Others on Council, especially Dienhart and Imker, go for low bids. I always want to ensure we get the product we are seeking, even it if it costs more.
So, under my watch, we no longer automatically approve low bids, we do not go with minimal standards for construction and repair, we inspect their work every step of the way, we keep records and we get warranties.
PTC has wasted incredible amounts of money on poor construct requiring expansive repairs. The PD is a disaster of a building that has consumed more money in repairs over 11 years than it cost to build. We have some big issues with City Hall and I wonder when the next issue with the Library will be found. Those issues came about under Lenox, Brown and Logsdon.
There is no excuse for things having been done that way in the past.
We need a Mayor with an inkling of leadership qualities.
Your point is so obvious that a real candidate for public office becomes his own worst enemy by arguing idiotically with the very same people he expects to vote for him. The first explanation is he has no campaign manager and no supporters giving him advice.
But another explanation is that some shadowy blogger just hijacked his photo and name and spews out stuff to make Haddix look stupid. Do you think this is Harold Logsdon's ultimate payback for the part-drunk comments? Or could George be working behind the scenes to weaken Hadddix. Come to think of it, that Ryan guy who is running is a computer person - he could pull it off. It makes as much sense as the first explanation.
I left Vanessa out of my speculation because she would never stoop so low. See you at her fireworks party tomorrow.
So, 3 of the votes are likely to be familiar faces - Imker and Kim for sure and either Vanessa, George or Harold as mayor. The 2 new faces King or the Rec Guy (either of which will try and undo the damage done to Rec programs by your administration) and Terry Ernst will likely be independent thinkers and align themselves with Kim and Erica on good ideas and oppose them on bad ideas - not sure where they stand on chickens (but no roosters, but time will tell). Of course the 2 new councilmen could find themselves on the wrong side of a 3-2 vote and the test of their character will be if they constantly whine about it or move on with governing the city.
So, that leaves it up to the new mayor to exert some leadership by actually leading in a positive manner without all the tension and personal attacks (yes I know one is coming very soon, I wonder who it will be). I'm starting to think that it really doesn't matter whether it is Vanessa, George or Harold - all are fine people who I think have the city's best interests above their own and don't seem to be ego-driven or unhinged - George seriously needs a new photo, but he only looks crazy - he doesn't act crazy.
Of course you can call any of them out for name-calling or criticism as you see fit. Just know that every time you do that is the same as if one of our real former mayors endorsed them.
Only 10 more Tuesday's to go.
Hopefully you will not win.
I do not live here for what we do not have.
Best of luck in the future.
Mr. Mayor
Its easy to point the finger...where are your real solutions.!
You never offer anything real or concrete and you take credit for things that don't belong to you.
Meanwhie you have had 6 years and burned through 2 city councils and you have offered the citizens NOTHING but talk and inaccurate facts supported by bluster and sheer bullshit.
Your proposals are vague! Step up with more than some big words.
Your comments are "absent/present" = NOTHING.
You never put anyting firm on the table, you never have which is the difference between a politician and a leader. You claim that $10M of SPLOST will last 5 years for road and carts, yet the last SPLOST of $8M lasted from 2006 to 2013, 7 years.
Scare tactics+no real proposal.
Rec Guy has you pegged! You save for maintanence! Not complicated.
Time for a new mayor.


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Whether you want a large or small barn, a shed to store your tractor or feed, a workshop, or shelter for your livestock, a pole barn is an achievable project, whether you do it yourself or have it built. Whole books have been written on pole construction, and plans and blueprints are available online or in books, so there are plenty of resources for the do-it-yourselfers. But it all starts with the pole.
#1 One option employs a backfill of soil, gravel, sand, a combination of those, or any of those mixed with concrete, atop a concrete footing. Poured-in-place footings are beneficial over plastic footing forms because they don't require a flat, level soil surface; they must, however, have a level finish.
#2 A concrete ring, poured around lag screws, increases a pole's bearing strength considerably, and is effective if you can't dig deep enough because of bedrock or other obstacles. A natural backfill is then used.
#3 Pre-formed, rigid plastic footing forms, in which the pole is embedded in concrete, guard against post decay from moisture, insect infestation, and other factors that could corrode a pole.
#4 Placing poles above ground, atop concrete footings, may extend the pole's life. Make your own footing and pier by first pouring the footing, allowing it to solidify. Then, pour the pier using a pier tube, attaching the two with rebar. The pole is then attached at the surface with an anchor bolt. This option works well in hard, rocky soil.
#5 Footing and pier can be poured in a time-saving, single step by using pre- formed footing, which enables post placement within minutes of digging the hole. This surface-mounting pier also requires attaching the pole with an anchor bolt.
Before you buy or construct anything, check with your county Building Inspection Service for complete building code requirements. Agricultural buildings generally follow lighter structural regulations than houses, so be clear about the intended use of the building.
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because of some digestive upsets, i discontinued supplements for my senior great dane until i got the situation under control. i believe all 3 of my dogs picked up a "bug" somewhere which produced some pretty awful diarrhea for a couple of days. they have all been on boiled chicken/rice for the past few days. i am re-introducing their regular kibble, we're almost there. they are all doing fine, activity levels back to normal, stool consistency normal (yayy!!!).
i want to start my girl back on her joint supplement asap. my question is this...is there a chance that re-introducing a joint supplement can cause digestive upset? i sure don't want to deal with more diarrhea but i really want her to have the added boost of this supplement. |
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I'm curious, what type of supplements do you use? My St. Bernard is on the Move-Free which my vet recommended. I buy it at Costco. He's been on it for 3 years now. I didn't know glucosamine/msm supplements could cause digestive upsets. So far my boy has been doing okay. |
i've been using Flavocin for just over a year now. my dane girl is 8 years old, got her from rescue in august '08. it seems to have become somewhat ineffective so i called my vet a couple of days ago and he suggested i try her on Previcox so i picked some up yesterday. we'll see how she does. |
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I've been using Petco's Joint Support III for the last year and it has worked great. It not only has the glucosamine chondroitin but also msm and Hyaluronic Acid. No tummy upset seen with this one. Also another note, fish oil is a great supp to add with arthritis. My ridgeback used to have quite a bit of trouble before I started this combination and now she shows no signs of arthritic problems. |
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Waldo The Parrot does vocals for this band. Let me repeat that, Waldo The Parrot does vocals for this band. It's Hatebeak, and it's fucking awesome. Ever wondered what a band would sound like with a parrot doing the vocals? Well now all of your questions are going to be answered. Brought to us by Reptilian Records in 2005 they had a hard time keeping this in print. It's pretty easy to figure out why, when I first heard about this band I determined this was something I must hear, as did a lot of people. Featuring three songs by our fowl fronted ensemble, and all three have some quality names to go along with the quality songs. "Bird Seeds of Vengeance", "Bird Bites, Dog Cries", and "Feral Parrot". These songs are well worth owning this 7″, if you aren't feeling the band at least you have this for novelty purposes. Now for the bad news, this is a split record. The B side contains a band by the name of Caninus. They kind of have the same idea as Hatebeak just not executed anywhere near as well. Their vocalist are a couple of pitbulls, delivering five tracks of pure boredom. If there's one thing I learned from this record it's that birds make much better band members than dogs in the animal kingdom. Even still I'm glad I have this record so I can sit back and embrace the Hatebeak.
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First of all I'm not trying to be insulting or smart. I just want to know how people are able to sell these vehicles.
My 1996 Blazer will be turning 125K in a week or so. I'm looking for a newer and lesser mileage 4WD SUV, and at the best deal I can find. I've been reading the local newspaper and free shoppers like Craiglist. I couldn't believe dealers and private sellers have so many 5-10 year old vehicles with 150K+ miles at fairly high prices. How do they sell them and who do they sell them to? Thanks, Gene |
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Who Buys 150K+ Vehicles? People who don't have $30k for a new one. Why else. |
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Years ago when I was on a fairly low wage, and the family was young and demanding, I had to cut my cloth accordingly. When I needed a car I'd see many high mileage examples before coming across a genuine gem. Of course the screen price was never what I paid. You never do. If the vendor won't negotiate you just get up and bugger off, someone else will negotiate. Some say I'm a cheeky fecker, looking for a discount on everything. But if you don't ask you don't get. A fiver off each tyre when changing all four at once is a free crate of beer or a plane ticket home. Now go out and haggle. You can do it. |
I know what your saying about these 150,000 mile vehicals with big price tags.It is ridiculous what there asking.I believe in haggeling and do pretty well at it.But if there asking $8000.00 or $6000.00 or $4000.00 for a $1500.00 vehical just what is the use in trying to haggle. I see it all the time and to me if it has 150,000 miles its a $1500.00 vehical.I dont care what it is its a beater in my book.Hard to except if its a $40,000 vehical new.But just does not matter to me its a beater. |
I appreciate your replies. I decided to look at few used car lots. The one yesterday had 20 to 30 nice looking SUV's. Only two had less than 100K miles. I guess new/used dealers might have more lower mileage ones. The idea of spending bucks on my 1996 Blazer looks better all of the time. Regards, Gene |
Interesting question. I don't know why people would spend a bunch of money on a vehicle with 150k+, but with some vehicles I can see why people would buy them for significantly less than a vehicle with less mileage. My experience with cars has been that if the mileage was put on quickly, highway miles, the car can last a long time. That was my experience with Honda. I sold it at 250K for 1,100. The kid who bought it was going to put a new engine in it. That brings me to my second point. Many people who buy cars with a lot of miles are mechanics or at least mechanically inclined. I am looking for a pick up at the moment. My husband was a mechanic. He can fix anything. This truck won't be used much, about 2,000 miles a year. |
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1.1.1 North Asia
North Asia is of considerable strategic and economic importance to Australia. Its markets account for over half of Australia's merchandise exports, and its continued stability and prosperity have direct implications for Australia's national interests.
During the year, the department further strengthened Australia's ties with North Asia and promoted the Government's political, economic and strategic goals in the region. We supported visits to China, Japan and the Republic of Korea (ROK) by the Minister for Foreign Affairs, Mr Smith, and the then Minister for Trade, Mr Crean. We hosted a visit to Australia by Japan's Foreign Minister and assisted with visits by China's Vice-President and Executive Vice-Premier.
We promoted Australia's economic interests through ongoing negotiations of free trade agreements (FTAs) with China, Japan and the ROK and support for the Australian pavilion at the Shanghai World Expo 2010.
TABLE 2. AUSTRALIA'S TRADE IN GOODS AND SERVICES WITH NORTH ASIAN ECONOMIES (a)
Exports |
Exports |
Imports |
Imports |
Goods and services | 2008 $m |
2009 $m |
Trend growth 2004–2009 % |
2008 $m |
2009 $m |
Trend growth 2004–2009 % |
Japan | 53,129 |
40,389 |
11.6 |
22,783 |
18,821 |
2.0 |
China | 37,123 |
47,991 |
27.3 |
36,870 |
37,252 |
15.2 |
Republic of Korea | 20,248 |
17,467 |
12.8 |
7,013 |
6,948 |
5.9 |
Taiwan | 8,754 |
7,086 |
9.7 |
4,761 |
3,606 |
1.1 |
Hong Kong, China | 4,659 |
4,601 |
1.5 |
3,504 |
3,075 |
2.8 |
Other (b) | 60 |
72 |
3.0 |
20 |
17 |
–3.4 |
Total North Asia | 123,973 |
117,606 |
15.8 |
74,951 |
69,719 |
8.3 |
(a) Goods data on a recorded trade basis, services data on a balance of payments basis.
(b) Goods data only. Services data is not published by the ABS for these countries.
Based on DFAT STARS database and ABS catalogue 5368.0.55.004.
The department helped strengthen Australia's comprehensive economic, security and strategic partnership with Japan. We led the implementation of activities under the 2007 Australia–Japan Joint Declaration on Security Cooperation (JDSC) and forged a bilateral agreement on a revised Action Plan that sets new objectives under the JDSC. We also contributed to bilateral negotiations that resulted in the signing of an Acquisition and Cross-Servicing Agreement (ACSA). This will enable closer cooperation between Australian and Japanese defence forces in international operations, such as peacekeeping, humanitarian assistance and disaster relief.
We supported high-level visits to Japan, advancing Australia's strategic interests. These included a visit to Tokyo in December 2009 by the then Prime Minister, Mr Rudd, to discuss climate change, security cooperation, and nuclear non-proliferation and disarmament. We supported a visit to Japan in May 2010 by Mr Smith and the Minister for Defence, Senator Faulkner, including to attend the third Australia–Japan '2+2' meeting of foreign and defence ministers at which the ACSA was signed. In February 2010, the department organised a Guest-of-Government visit to Australia by Japan's Foreign Minister, Mr Katsuya Okada, during which Mr Smith and Mr Okada released a joint statement reaffirming Japan and Australia's commitment to strengthening nuclear security in the Asia-Pacific.
The department supported Mr Crean in co-chairing with his Japanese counterpart, Mr Masayuki Naoshima, the inaugural Australia–Japan Trade and Economic Ministerial Dialogue in Tokyo in October 2009. We also supported Mr Crean's visit to Japan in June 2010, to attend an APEC meeting in Sapporo and conduct bilateral meetings in Tokyo. The department led three negotiating rounds with Japan on a comprehensive FTA (see sub-program 1.1.7). We worked to ensure our differences on whaling did not disrupt the broader relationship.
Japan was Australia's second-largest trading partner in 2009 and our largest export market for coal, LNG, copper ores and concentrates, beef, dairy products and cereals other than wheat. Japan was our third-largest source of foreign investment in 2009.
We organised the sixth Australia–Japan Conference, held in Canberra in February 2010, bringing together senior representatives from politics, business, academia and the media to explore new ideas to advance the bilateral relationship. We also provided secretariat support for the Australia–Japan Foundation (see sub-program 1.1.13).
FIGURE 5. Australia's trade in goods and services with Japan (a)
(a) Goods data on a recorded trade basis, services data on a balance of payments basis.
Based on DFAT STARS database and ABS catalogue 5368.0.55.004.
Following a period of political tension in mid-2009 prompted by a series of bilateral irritants, the department helped re-establish a constructive relationship with China, based on a frank appreciation of shared interests and mutual respect. Economic links were strengthened and diversified. We continued to engage China on key international issues including the G20 and the recovery of the international economy, climate change and ongoing efforts to conclude the World Trade Organization (WTO) Doha Round. We also made targeted representations on human rights.
In support of these efforts, the department facilitated a series of high-level visits to China, including those by the Governor-General, Mr Smith, Mr Crean and parliamentary delegations led by the Speaker of the House of Representatives, Mr Jenkins, and the President of the Senate, Senator Hogg. A keynote address in October 2009 at the Australian National University by Mr Smith on Australia's relations with China opened the way for a successful visit to Australia by Executive Vice-Premier Li Keqiang later that month. Vice-President Xi Jinping's visit to Australia in June 2010 affirmed the positive trend in relations.
Australia's trade and investment relationship with China continued to grow strongly. China was Australia's largest two-way trading partner in 2009, with total trade in goods and services valued at $85.2 billion, an increase of 15.2 per cent over the previous year. This was underpinned by strong growth in our exports of resources and energy. Australian exports of iron ore to China grew by 22 per cent in 2009 and coal exports increased by over 1000 per cent, making this our second-largest export commodity, after iron ore. China became our second-largest source of foreign investment proposals during the year, heavily weighted towards mining.
We worked closely with other agencies and industry to support our commercial relationship with China. The annual High-Level Economic Cooperation Dialogue, co-chaired by Mr Crean in Beijing in May 2010, focused on investment, resources and energy and climate change issues. With Austrade, we led the Government's second-track commercial diplomacy initiative to match Australian industry strengths in automotives, agribusiness, clean energy and sustainable urban planning with opportunities in China's fast growing inland provinces. We continued to pursue a high-quality and comprehensive FTA with China (see sub-program 1.1.7).
With our support, the inaugural CEO Roundtable in June 2010 saw 25 top business leaders from Australia and China consider ways to strengthen business ties. The Australia–China Economic and Trade Forum, also in June 2010, brought together 500 business people on both sides to discuss trade and investment. We again supported the Australia–China Business Council Networking Day, held at Parliament House in March 2010, where ministers set out the Government's priorities in economic relations with China.
With strong input from the business and arts communities, we led Australia's engagement at the Shanghai World Expo 2010. The Expo opened on 1 May 2010 for six months. We expect to receive over seven million visitors to our pavilion.
Under the Special Visits Program, we hosted a visit by the Mayor of Foshan in Guangdong Province, highlighting Australian capabilities in financial services and clean energy. We also helped arrange a visit by five Chinese journalists under the International Media Visits Program. This focused on the resources and investment relationship, and generated a volume of informed and balanced reporting.
In June 2010, the launch of the Year of Australian Culture in China set the stage for reinforcing people-to-people links and showcasing Australian culture in China over the coming year. We provided secretariat support to the Australia–China Council (see sub-program 1.1.13).
FIGURE 6. AUSTRALIA'S TRADE IN GOODS AND SERVICES WITH CHINA (a)
(a) Goods data on a recorded trade basis, services data on a balance of payments basis.
Based on DFAT STARS database and ABS catalogue 5368.0.55.004.
In 2009, Australia's exports to Taiwan were valued at $7.1 billion, making this our ninth-largest export market. The department supported these growing economic ties through convening the 14th round of bilateral economic consultations, with the main focuses on strengthening investment relations and cooperation in clean energy. We also conducted an active and successful public diplomacy program in Taiwan, by sponsoring high-profile Australian visits to promote science, culture, technology and the arts.
FIGURE 7. AUSTRALIA'S TRADE IN GOODS AND SERVICES WITH TAIWAN (a)
(a) Goods data on a recorded trade basis, services data on a balance of payments basis.
Based on DFAT STARS database and ABS catalogue 5368.0.55.004.
Hong Kong
The department worked closely with the Australian business community to advance our substantial commercial interests there. We supported a visit to Hong Kong by the Minister for Financial Services, Mr Bowen, to promote the Government's strategy of positioning Australia as a leading financial service centre in the region.
We continued to support Australian business interests in Macau through the Australian consulate-general in Hong Kong. Gaming and associated enterprises in construction and food/beverage services attracted significant Australian trade and investment.
Republic of Korea (ROK)
The department led whole-of-government efforts to strengthen Australia's growing strategic partnership with the ROK. These included a review of Australia–ROK security cooperation that resulted in bilateral ministerial agreement on a Revised Action Plan on Enhanced Global and Security Cooperation. Areas of enhanced cooperation include: defence, law enforcement, counter-terrorism, disarmament and non-proliferation and development cooperation.
We supported the Australian Government's response to the sinking of the ROK navy vessel, the Cheonan, including by working closely with the Department of Defence on Australia's participation in a ROK-led international investigation. We also engaged key regional countries and United Nations Security Council members to advocate in favour of a meaningful international response to the attack by the Democratic People's Republic of Korea (DPRK).
FIGURE 8. AUSTRALIA'S TRADE IN GOODS AND SERVICES WITH THE REPUBLIC OF KOREA (a)
(a) Goods data on a recorded trade basis, services data on a balance of payments basis.
Based on DFAT STARS database and ABS catalogue 5368.0.55.004.
The ROK is Australia's fourth-largest export market. We worked closely with other agencies and industry to support commercial interests, especially exports of resources and energy. We made good progress towards a comprehensive bilateral FTA, conducting four rounds of negotiations during the year (see sub-program 1.1.7).
We coordinated whole-of-government cooperation with the ROK across the full range of regional and global issues, including advancing WTO negotiations and strengthening regional architecture. We worked closely with our ROK counterparts in entrenching the G20 as the premier forum for global economic cooperation and in support of the ROK's hosting of a G20 summit in November 2010.
The department supported visits to the ROK by Mr Crean in October 2009, including to advance FTA negotiations, and by Mr Smith in December 2009, including to review Australia–ROK security cooperation. We also supported visits to the ROK by: the Parliamentary Secretary for Trade, Mr Byrne, who represented Australia at the funeral of former ROK President Kim Dae-jung; Senator Forshaw, Chair, Joint Standing Committee on Foreign Affairs, Defence and Trade; and a parliamentary delegation led by the President of the Senate, Senator Hogg. Under the Special Visits Program (SVP), we hosted visits by ROK National Assembly member, Representative Cho Yoon-sun, and Secretary to the ROK President for National Future and Vision, Dr Kim Sang-hyup.
Working with our ROK counterpart, we organised a 1.5-track dialogue, held in Seoul in May 2010. Australian and ROK participants from politics, government, business, academia and the media explored ways to strengthen Australia–Korea ties. We also worked with the Departments of Defence and Veterans' Affairs to support Australian veterans commemorating the 60th anniversary of the beginning of the Korean War. We provided secretariat support to the Australia–Korea Foundation (see sub-program 1.1.13).
Democratic People's Republic of Korea (DPRK)
Supporting international efforts to find a peaceful resolution to the Korean Peninsula nuclear issue, the department continued to work closely with the United States, Japan, the ROK and other countries. We urged the Democratic People's Republic of Korea (DPRK) to abandon its nuclear weapons program, return to full compliance with the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty and implement commitments made previously in the Six-Party Talks. We also raised directly with the DPRK Australia's concerns about its human rights record and co-sponsored resolutions in the United Nations General Assembly and Human Rights Council to focus international attention on the human rights situation in the DPRK.
The department supported an expansion in Australia's relations with Mongolia, in areas such as development cooperation, commerce and parliamentary relations. We promoted Australia as a reliable investor and partner in the sustainable development of Mongolia's mining sector and explored other ways to expand Australian involvement in Mongolia. We also continued to help Mongolia create an effective and transparent legal framework for business. This will benefit Australian companies.
In July 2009, we supported a visit to Mongolia by an Australian parliamentary delegation and, in April 2010, one by the Governor of New South Wales. We also supported the second Australia–Mongolia Joint Minerals and Energy Working Group meeting held in Canberra in August 2009, as well as a number of high-level visits from Mongolia to Australia, including those by several parliamentarians and a delegation of state secretaries.
The department will work with North Asian partners to promote regional stability and Australia's economic interests.
Building on existing cooperative arrangements and bilateral dialogues, we will strengthen Australia's strategic engagement in the North Asian region. We will engage these governments on major international priorities for Australia, such as climate change, global financial governance, regional architecture and nuclear non-proliferation.
We will promote Australia's business interests in these important markets and will pursue a successful outcome to FTA negotiations with China, Japan and the ROK.
We will work with our regional partners and the United States to help encourage a negotiated settlement of the DPRK nuclear issue.


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