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Breakfast Topic: Using "IRL," IRL {WoW}
Apr 14th 2010 8:58AM One day, my coworkers and I were sitting around the lunch table discussing some upcoming changes to our health insurance policy. And I said, without even thinking:
"I can't believe they nerfed our dental insurance."
It took me a little while to figure out why everyone was staring at me with a quizzical expression on their face.
Cataclysm: Stat and system changes for healing priests {WoW}
Mar 3rd 2010 6:27PM I would also like to see this article.
World of WarCrafts: Mixing it up with MrVoletron {WoW}
Feb 22nd 2010 3:46PM Ah, okay. In that case, your mother was a hamster and your father smelt of elderberries.
World of WarCrafts: Mixing it up with MrVoletron {WoW}
Feb 22nd 2010 3:36PM I don't understand your complaint. If you've listened to Mr. Voletron's music on Youtube, you've noticed that the actual "video" part of it is a static picture with some MS Paint words scrawled on top. How does that have anything to do with Machinima? Youtube is just a means of distribution, the real focus is the music itself.
Breakfast Topic: Fancy meeting you here {WoW}
Feb 18th 2010 10:36AM At the company I work for, we all use instant messenger to communicate rather than actually talking to each other. One day, my status message simply said "QQ more." One of the girls stuck her head out of her office and screamed (loud enough for everyone on my floor to hear) "Julie? For the Horde or for the Alliance?"
I promptly replied "Blood and thunder!" and she cheered. Turns out she plays Horde in the same battlegroup as me. We now have water cooler conversations about how much we hate healing whichever fight is causing our raid groups to wipe this week.
Scattered Shots: Can Beast Mastery raid? {WoW}
Feb 11th 2010 12:40PM I think it's valid for someone to have an idea of what their personal tastes are. It's okay for raiding to not be someone's idea of fun without trying it out. I can say that I wouldn't enjoy, say, boxing, knowing that I don't really like getting hit in the face. I don't need to try it out to know that.
Same goes with raiding. For many, it's super fun to work on progressing with a group of friends. For others, WoW is a way to destress from real life, and progression raiding would just add another level of stress. WoW is a pretty big game, and the nice thing about it is that there are plenty of ways for people to enjoy it.
Shifting Perspectives: Restoration 101, part 3 {WoW}
Jan 26th 2010 5:58PM I'm a 10-man healer only. I would say that the usefulness of this glyph depends on your raid make up. My raid group has four ranged DPS and two melee. In most fights, WG just wasn't hitting enough people to make the glyph mandatory for me. I switched it out for the Rapid Rejuv glyph for Festergut, and it was a really good call on that fight. Of course, for Rotface, Rapid Rejuv is a pain in the ass and the WG glyph would be totally useful. So I guess I need to....walk around with stacks of glyphs in my bag? Yuck.
Blizzard giving serious consideration to mandatory authenticators {WoW}
Jan 8th 2010 10:40AM @Kira
If you don't have a credit or debit card you can use, would it be possible for you to go pick one of the generic gift cards from your local supermarket or drug store? You could pay cash and get a Visa gift card for $15 and use that for the authenticator, then just use the rest on lunch or something. (Not trying to be snarky either, just want to help think of away around the lack of credit card issue.)
Breakfast Topic: Healers are the drummers of WoW {WoW}
Jan 7th 2010 10:36AM I agree with this.
I'm a drummer and a healer, and I would say that the relationship between a healer and a tank is very similar to that of a bass player and a drummer. It's the drummer's job to set the pace and keep the group together. It's the bass player's job to rein in that drummer when he starts rushing (as drummers almost always do) and to hold the entire thing together when the drummer does something idiotic like breaking a stick in the middle of a really intense part of the song.
In fact, I suspect the reason why I enjoy healing so much is because the synergy between a tank and a healer is so similar to what I experience with music.
Hm, perhaps I should have played the bass.
The Queue: Why won't you move, Mr. Bubbles? {WoW}
Jan 5th 2010 4:17PM Anybody want a peanut?


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Anyone work at Karmanos?
0Mar 28, '10 by NBMom1225I am currently working on a surgical-oncology unit in a suburban hospital and have about 9 months experience. I have always wanted to be an oncology nurse, and my hospital only has a small percentage of oncology patients. I got a call to interview at Karmanos, and I am curious to know if anyone out there could give me more information on what it's like over there. My current workplace has a pretty high pt turnover of discharges/admits, which is stressful for me, but I really like the people I work with and it's a very teamwork oriented unit. As much as I would love to work exclusively in the oncology realm, I am worried about leaving a unit I am finally becoming comfortable in. I'm going to go to the interview to at least hear what they have to offer...anyone have any opinions about Karmanos?

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Fall City Roadhouse is classic Americana, done with style
Restaurant Review: Fall City Roadhouse, a beautifully restored restaurant in a gracious, century-old building along the Snoqualmie River, is minutes from I-90 and ideal for families, day-trippers or hungry locals. 2 ½-star review by Providence Cicero.
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Sample menu
Goat cheese and beet salad | $8.95 |
Roadhouse Reuben | $9.95 |
Mac and Cheese | $12.95 |
Meatloaf | $13.95 |
Fall City Roadhouse
American/Eclectic4200 Preston Fall City Road S.E., Fall City
Reservations: Accepted.
Hours: Dinner 5-9 p.m. Sundays-Thursdays, 5-10 p.m. Fridays-Sundays; lunch 11 a.m.-5 p.m. Mondays-Fridays, noon-5 p.m. Saturdays and Sundays; breakfast 8 a.m.-2 p.m. Saturdays and Sundays.
Prices: $$/$$$ (Small plates $3.95-$8.95; sandwiches/salads $7.95-$12.95; entrees $13.95-$26.95.)
Drinks: Full bar; specialty cocktails; short local wine list.
Parking: Free in lot.
Sound: Comfortable for conversation.
Who should go: Ideal for families and large groups, day-trippers or hungry locals hankering for a big breakfast or classic Americana done with style.
Credit cards: All major cards.
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Once upon a time in America, "the Roadhouse" was where you went for an evening of racy, rowdy fun. But the new and beautifully restored Fall City Roadhouse is more of a G-rated attraction.
The cars in the parking lot are telling: a minivan next to a Maserati; a shiny red Jeep 4x4 next to a well-worn Honda Civic. You can prime your honey for some hanky-panky with a few well-made cocktails, but it's also a safe place to dispatch the sitter with the kids.
Inside one Saturday night, the bar and lounge were underused, even with three TVs tuned to the Mariners game. Most folks preferred the dining room's floral-cushioned booths. One sheltered a threesome: two guys and a gal living large with amaretto-sweetened Manhattans and "Naughty Nellie" New York strips (named for a local cheese melting into the char).
Two women dined tête-à-tête, one of them delicately demolishing a bowl of macaroni and cheese and its topper — a boneless chicken breast slathered in barbecue sauce and molten cheese. Her chaser of choice was a mint-laced mojito tinted pink with "passion liqueur."
Across the room it was pink Shirley Temples for a party of five — a nanny and her four charges. The woman's glance flickered longingly over glasses of wine at the next table as she sipped water with her beet, arugula and goat-cheese salad. The kids, meanwhile, had every finicky demand met: plain spaghetti, spaghetti with butter and cheese, absolutely no cheese on spaghetti with meat sauce — and chicken strips for the little iconoclast.
The fresh-faced servers are not much more than youngsters themselves. They proudly recite dinner specials from memory and pour wine as if it was Budweiser — picking up the glass and holding it at a tilt — but they know enough not to fill it to the rim.
When I mentioned that the Salt & Pepper Calamari wasn't as salt-and-peppery as we'd expected, our waiter, Dan, shared that he'd never had calamari before he came to work here under executive chef and general manager Cameon Orel.
Orel brought plenty of fancy ideas with her from her years at Yarrow Bay Beach Café. The freshly brewed iced tea has a pinch of lavender in it. The mac and cheese is sharp with Cheddar, Jack, Parmesan and boursin. Tandoori-chicken skewers and edamame hummus are among small plates available throughout the day and evening; dinner entrees include salmon in coconut curry and chicken risotto.
Halibut was among the specials, sauced with a powerful parsley- garlic purée and paired with "Peruvian" potato salad — purple potatoes and radish coins jazzed with cilantro and chili powder dressed in a sharp vinaigrette. Intriguing, but not half as memorable as the Roadhouse Reuben, the chicken-fried steak or the meatloaf: each one a classic expertly executed.
The sandwich comes on marbled rye and the meltingly tender corned beef is thick cut and fatty in a way you don't always find in these parts. The cube steak's crisp jacket doesn't wilt under peppery country gravy flecked with house-made sausage. The meatloaf is mixed with Italian sausage, making the hefty individual loaf soft and savory under its cloak of mushroom gravy. With it were mashed potatoes and tender, buttery Brussels sprouts with kale.
Those were the dishes that will bring me back to this gracious, century-old building along the Snoqualmie River just minutes from I-90 and the Falls. So will weekend breakfast. Portions are huge and choices are just as vast and varied as lunch and dinner, with no fewer than six variations on eggs Benedict, a dozen omelets and scrambles, plus pancakes, fresh biscuits, cinnamon rolls, blintzes, French toast and more.
And so will "hot chocolate cake." Baked in an Illy Caffe mug, it's topped with mini marshmallows and served with a drift of whipped cream, a bottle of warm milk- chocolate sauce and a cookie.
"I like to dump it out of the cup and mush it all together on the plate," Dan confided. Expert advice, it turned out.
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Tom, good article as usual. You say, "Biblical writers use agape with diverse meanings, and they present the meanings of philia and eros in positive ways. The biblical witness suggests Christians should express agape, philia, and eros, rightly understood." I think this true, especially that the NT uses "agape" in some very diverse ways. But I am curious how the biblical witness can suggest right uses of eros when the word never appears in the texts. Is it that there is a right kind of eros or is it that there are many kinds of agape?
Agape Theology
I heard several references to the work of Anders Nygren at the recent Oxford University conference I attended, "The Evolution of Morality." Nygren's agape theology continues to influence more than seventy years after its publication.
I have been quite critical of Anders Nygren's views of agape. For instance, in my recent book, The Nature of Love, I devote an entire chapter to evaluating his work.
Below are excerpts from my discussion of Nygren's work. These excerpts come from the chapter's introduction and conclusion. They give a taste of what I think of Nygren's agape theology.
Anders Nygren was the most influential theologian of love in the 20th century. His effort to highlight the significance and superiority of agape enjoyed far-reaching success. Many Christians educated during the second half of the century and into the 21st were taught Nygren's fundamental claims: agape is the Christian form of love, and we discover the meaning of agape by reading the New Testament. Thanks largely to him, many Christians in the Western world know about and value the ancient Greek word, agape.
Nygren's famous book, Agape and Eros, influenced Christian education in churches and universities around the world. His agape theories were and are preached regularly from Christian pulpits.
The particularities have garnered extensive scholarly response. Yale ethicist Gene Outka, for instance, says Nygren "so effectively posed issues about love that they have had a prominence in theology and ethics they never had before." Outka concludes: "whatever the reader may think of it, one may justifiably regard his work as the beginning of the modern treatment of the subject." Edward Collins Vacek says Nygren's "insights are splendid, his mistakes are instructive, and his views are still very much alive." The 21st century still feels the influence of Anders Nygren.
Nygren argued the Bible supported his views. In fact, he claimed to portray the authentic view of Christian love as expressed in the New Testament. Because I join Nygren and many other Christians who consider the Bible chiefly authoritative for theology, I take seriously any influential view of love claiming to be the authentically biblical view.
An exploration of Nygren's ideas, however, shows he reads the Bible through his own particular lens. And that particular lens is not always helpful. Nygren's theory of agape does not fit the biblical witness well.
Some Conclusions
Although I strongly criticize Nygren's work in the chapter I devote to his work, Nygren's ideas provide an important entry into what the Bible says about love. Although much of Nygren's agape theology should be rejected, it nevertheless helps us see more clearly what ideas should be incorporated into an adequate theology of love.
Agape is NOT the Only Form of Christian Love
Nygren's thesis that agape is the only authentically Christian love — excluding all other loves — collapses under careful examination of the biblical witness. His agape arguments are largely unwarranted in the light of the Scripture. Biblical writers use agape with diverse meanings, and they present the meanings of philia and eros in positive ways. The biblical witness suggests Christians should express agape, philia, and eros, rightly understood.
Christians who believe agape is the exclusively Christian form of love should change their belief. Other forms of love are also legitimately Christian. Careful definitions of each form are necessary, of course. I have proposed definitions of agape, eros, and philia to help contemporary Christians reclaim the diversity of the biblical witness to love.
The Bible Portrays God's Love as Sometimes Eros and Philia
Contrary to Nygren's view, the stories and teachings of Jesus, the letters of Paul and John, and the diverse texts of the Old Testament tell us creaturely actions and responses influence the form that God's love takes. Creatures affect the precise ways in which God loves. God seeks and maintains relationship – including friendships – with creatures in creation. The fact that others influence God's love and God has fellowship with creation suggests God's love includes eros and philia dimensions. An adequate theology of love should affirm the various forms divine love takes.
Not only should contemporary Christians embrace agape, eros, and philia as legitimate forms of love for creatures to express. They should also accept the biblical witness that God expresses these forms. Rather than one-dimensional, God's love is full-orbed.
God Initiates Fellowship with Creatures
Rather than accepting Nygren's theology of agape, Christians should endorse the language of prevenient grace, whereby God lovingly initiates relationship moment by moment and creatures freely respond. Divine love initiates fellowship in each moment of a creature's life. God enables creatures to respond freely.
God's loving sovereignty should not be defined in such a way as to eliminate creaturely free response. Prevenient grace offers the way to affirm God's loving initiative for right relationship and free creaturely response to God.
God is the Source of the Love Creatures Express
Nygren worries that creatures will be regarded as the source of love. This worry is legitimate, because biblical writers often regard God as love's source. Designating creatures as their own sources of love makes God unnecessary for the all-important command to love God and others as oneself. If creatures are the sole source of their own love, they would be entirely independent and autonomous in their decisions to love. Nygren rightly rejects the view love originates in creation.
Unfortunately, however, Nygren's worry leads him to reject any sense of independence in creaturely love. Although the biblical witness indicates that creatures express love toward God and others, Nygren believes humans do not love God.
Numerous problems arise from Nygren's denial that creatures express love. Even he admits his view runs contrary to the plain meaning of Jesus' command, "You shall love the Lord your God" (Mt. 22:37; Mk. 12:30; Lk. 10:27). To make the Bible consistent with his views, Nygren would need to rewrite much of what the Bible says about creaturely love. The parables of Jesus would make little or no sense. Numerous Pauline statements, such as "anyone who loves (agape) God is known by him" (1 Cor. 8:3), would become meaningless. The Old Testament would be need drastic alteration.
We should acknowledge God as the source and inspiration of the love creatures express. Creatures rely upon God to empower and inspire them to love. Creatures depend utterly upon God. But the response to love creatures make should legitimately be regarded as creaturely love. Creaturely love requires God's active love as its source, but it remains creaturely love nonetheless. Creatures depend upon God. But they exert a measure of independence when they choose how they will freely respond to God's call in their lives.
Love is an Essential Attribute of God's Nature
Contrary to Nygren's argument, the actions and responses of creatures do shape God's love, at least in terms of the form divine love takes. The value and responses of creatures God created and deemed good provide a reason to think God's love at least partially motivated.
In an important sense, however, Nygren correctly claims God's love is unmotivated. Christians sometimes use the word "unconditional" to describe this sense. Nygren gets at this when he talks about God's nature as love. "To the question, Why does God love?" he says, "there is only one right answer: Because it is His nature to love." God's love is unmotivated or unconditional in the sense that God's nature is love. God will express love toward others no matter the condition of creatures, because love is an aspect of God's essence.
Philosophers often use the word "necessary" to describe the idea an attribute is essential to an object. Unfortunately, Nygren confusingly conflates the idea of love as a necessary aspect of God's nature and agape as a particular form of love.
Sometimes Nygren talks about God's unmotivated love in the sense of necessity: "it is [God's] nature to love." The fact that God loves refers to love as essential to God's nature. Other times, Nygren speaks of God's love as unmotivated and refers to the condition of those whom God loves. God loves sinners. When he claims creaturely responses and conditions in no way motive God's love, Nygren twists or ignores the biblical account.
We should distinguish, therefore, between various forms of love and the mode of love. Distinguishing between the mode of God love as necessary and agape as one form of divine love brings clarity to the discussion. If God loves others necessarily, we can talk about the particular form God's love takes as dependent, at least in part, upon creaturely actions and responses.
Dear Tom:
Thanks again for another thought provoking post from your blog. At the outset, I need to remind you and your readers that I am keenly aware of my limitations when responding to the gifts of brilliance and erudition with which God has endowed you. Having said this sincerely, I would like to respond to a couple of statements in your blog.
First, you state: "Creatures depend upon God. But they exert a measure of independence when they choose how they will freely respond to God's call in their lives." I find this support of the doctrine of prevenient grace most reassuring. While I may be wrong, I am sensing an emerging strand of universalism that somehow combines a mutant strain of the Wesleyan concept of prevenient grace with a sentimentalism that seems to open the doors of eternal life even to non-Christian religious traditions. Thank you for this strong support of a proper interpretation of prevenient grace.
Second, you write: "Contrary to Nygren's argument, the actions and responses of creatures do shape God's love, at least in terms of the form divine love takes." Again, I admit my limitations in challenging your astute intellect, but I must respectfully disagree with this statement. Working from Romans 5:8, I believe God's love transcends "the actions and responses of creatures." Perhaps I have misunderstood you, but it seems to me as I read the Scriptures that God is not only love, He is also holy. God, in my opinion, could not possibly possess contradictory motives with regard to either those with whom He exists in Trinitarian fellowship, or to His creation. It would follow, then, that God's love remains eternally consistent, unchanging, etc. Now, I recognize that my perspectives in this regard are contrary to Open Theism, however, I find great comfort in realizing that the love of God for me (and all others) is not conditioned upon or shaped by my response.
Finally, you write, "God loves sinners. When he (Nygren) claims creaturely responses and conditions in no way motive (motivate?) God's love, Nygren twists or ignores the biblical account." I believe the statement above can be considered with the statement here. How is the love of God for sinners ever changed by even the most profligate sinner's response, even if that response is rejection? The most reliable definition, foundation, expression, or benchmark for speaking of God's love to sinners is the Cross, and even there Jesus asked for mercy for the mocking, scoffers assembled around his cross.
Thanks again Tom, for the wonderful service you provide the Body of Christ with your thought-provoking posts. God bless, and keep it up!
In my studies, I have found an over-romanticism attributed to "agape" in the Christian realm, given that while forms of it are used by non-biblical ancient writers in the context of affectionate (not necessarily intimate) love, it is rarely (if ever) used in the passionate sense that Coelho asserts, and is often used in a completely non-relational manner, as in "I love cars." It seems that the very use of "agape" by the biblical authors may be as a phonetic device.
Thanks to all for your good responses.
To Dave – Thanks for your note. I think we may actually agree on that which you think we disagree.
Like you, I affirm that God's nature as love is unchanging. We can rest assured that God will ALWAYS love us, no matter what we do. In this sense, I affirm divine immutability.
But I also think the way God loves us is determined by the context. The way God loved Jonah, for instance, is different that the way God loves Mary. Because God is a living God in relationship with changing creatures, the forms that God's love takes also change.
In sum, I think the fact THAT God loves us is eternal, unchanging, or immutable. But HOW God loves us changes depending on the people and the circumstances. As the Psalmist put it, God's mercies are new every morning. Does that make sense?
I also think we might agree on the issues of the cross. While God's love is revealed to ALL in the cross, my point is that the way God expresses love to us depends on who we are. God's love expressed to a 21st century internet porn addict will differ some from God's love expressed to a 1st century tax collector. Both are loved. But the forms of these loves differ, because God tailor-makes them for their recipients.
At least that's how I'm seeing things…
Good day to you, doc.
Throughout your essay, you use the term "creature", or some variant thereof.
Yet here:
"Although the biblical witness indicates that creatures express love toward God and others, Nygren believes humans do not love God."
you switch to "humans," and that is your only use of the word rather than "creatures." You are a very careful writer, so I don't think is by chance or error. Why the difference? What entities does/do "creatures" encompass other than or in addition to "humans?"
You have a keen idea to notice this distinction! I wanted to indicate what I think the biblical witness says, namely that more than just humans can love God. But I don't recall any instance in the Nygren text in which he includes creatures other than human. So I wanted to be faithful to his writings by saying he only talked about human love.
Hope that helps explain things,
I am glad you decided to address the issue of Agape here in your blog. I have tried to explain to some, who have been influenced by Nygren's thoughts (taken as authoritative as the Gospel itself, in many cases) and consider agape as the only form of Christian love, your ideas from The Nature of Love. I am reluctant to lend the book, now I can send them here for the better explanation. Thank you.
My journey into theology was at a time when agape was a central part of Christian talk. Eros and Philia were defined as "passion" driven relationships. Agape was said not to be driven by passion. Agape was described by a passionless act of righteousness. If you see a person stranded on the road and you helped them it was based on agape. Philia was a non-sexual friendship relationship between two people. Eros was physical and driven by passion. It was said that a marriage must be based on agape because there will be times when philia and eros will fail. If one at least continues to perform acts of righteousness it can sustain the relationship. This "sounded" good.
After a while I began to see weakness in this model. If there is no physical attraction why get married? If there is no friendship the relationship is doomed. How boring and dead a relationship based on conscious acts of righteousness! I came to see that all three must be part of a marriage.
To expand upon this any relationship must contain all three forms of love. A relationship would naturally include physical contact, a handshake, an embrace, a Holy kiss. Thus eros is involved. To have a relationship you must at least like the person. Thus philio is involved. Our lives are driven by doing right, even when it hurts (tough love). Thus agape is involved.
I can see this with any relationship. How could we love a dog if we do not like it or enjoy physical contact with it? How could we love nature without feeling stirred in our souls or enjoying the physical experience? When it comes to God, how can we expect to love God if we do not like God? The psalms testify to the physical impact we get from our communion with God. What about a "heart strangely warmed?" How can we live out our relationship without acts of righteousness toward others?
I have come to conclude that love encompasses all three types of love, agape, philia, and eros.
Being created in God's image, would this not indicate that God's love is made up of all three types of love? Do all of God's creatures posses this intricate love to some degree? Someting to think about.
The concept that God is love, he expresses love, and is an essential part of His nature. Is hard to grasp especially in a world filled with trials and hardships. We as human beings see love expressed daily and I believe is a part of our essential nature as well. We desire to love others, with the stipulation that we require love ourselves. An almost designed independent and dependent condition that puts that need in us. As for the choice we have of free will, we put that love and receive it in unhealthy and unnatural areas of this life. At the end we wonder why would we suffer, and its the result of not directing that love towards God and others.
I'd never considered the idea of God's love being "unmotivated." We see motivated creaturely love all the time, and so to consider God's love not being motivated is difficult to grasp or to accept as "real" love. However, since this argument stems from the idea of love as a part of who God is, then it is difficult to make an argument for such a love to be motivated. However, this still feels disingenuous to some extent. If He has to love us, then isn't that problematic to some extent? Where's the freedom?
In conversations I have had about the topic of love, I was always struck by how our effort is put into defining love and not asking the question why is there love? I don't mean to take away from the discussion of what love is, I just want to know why is there love? Maybe I'm asking the "why" instead of the "what" because of the scientist in me. However, consider I John 4:8 where it says "…God is love." To me this is a satisfactory answer, loves exists because of God. From this starting point, I believe we can better understand what agape love is.
I found this particular topic very interesting, especially the discussion of creaturely love. I find it hard to fully understand how Nygren can say that we don't love God, because I have always understood and believed that God is LOVE. What is the point of loving if we can't love the sole person who created us and the world we live in?
I can honestly say, I have never really put much thought into the subject of love as far as the different types (agape, eros, and philia). After reading this blog, I understand the different aspects of love and that because God is relational his creatures can express his love in many different ways. After reading this, I conclude that God shows his love in complex ways and to limit this belief to think that agape is the only authentic love is false.
I agree with Nyren's claim—which you say he is correct—of how God's love is unmotivated (unconditional—in other words). As he also stated, "It is in His nature to love." I can't imagine knowing and loving a God that loved us with motives in mind. How would we then be able to love without having motives prior to loving others? I believe that we are able to love because God unconditionally loves us. He provides us with the ability to love those around us—even our enemies. Overall, I'm glad that our God is one with love as a major aspect to His essence because without Him loving us, he wouldn't be able to teach us how to love all of His creation.
Agape love is to love divinely, to love with the power and inspiration of God! This is my understanding of agape. That it is the purest form of love, the love that comes from God through us to His people and creation. But what I don't get is how can Nygen say we can't love God. Did he mean we can't love God in the way God loves us? Or that we don't have the capability to obtain and to sustain such Agape? I would like to not believe this because like it was said later on that Gods holy spirit flows through us when we become sensitive to its presence. Like the "Hillsong United" song that say "break my heart for what breaks yours." We become capable of such love when we become fully human with our sympathy and empathy when we intentional think with our Jesus goggles on.
• I would definitely agree that "Christian's love" is far more than just the "agape" form of love. Yes God's love is unconditional, self-sacrificing, and unbound to all. Although, there are many ways that Jesus/God displayed their amazing love for others. Jesus shows philia love with his disciples and the people he met daily, and in the ways he cared for those around him. Also, God provided Adam with a woman because no other creature on earth could fulfill the type of love, emotion, companionship, or bond that as humans we long for, and eros was intended by God in that way. We are called to love and live as Jesus did and it is by lived experience, prevalent grace, scripture, and tradition that we know and understand what this looks like. These pictures of love that I have formed from Jesus and God's is more than just agape love.
I agree that Agape love is not the only form of love that God requires of Christians. If that were true, there would be no evangelism to show God's love to our brothers and sisters, no helping those in need, no marriage, and therefore no children to bring up in a way that is pleasing to God. Philia and Eros definitely have their place in Christianity, given the right circumstances. I also liked how it expresses that God's love is what inspires all the other forms of love in us. Since love is an essential part of his character, and he made us in his image, it makes sense that he would create us with a capacity for love, both to reciprocate back on him and to lavish on others.
I found your thoughts on the need for adopting the idea of prevenient grace most interesting. I've discovered that some of your views are similar to mine, but I have difficulty describing them as I have so little background in the subject. This is something I've believed in since learning about God being "omni-" everything. I would agree that He presents us with choices, but allows us the free-will to choose our paths. With this though, he is all-knowing, and knows the outcome of each. I believe this is just another way for us to show our love for Him (and others), by showing that we care about the well-being of ourselves, and others (if effects others) if we choose one of the best paths for us in that moment.
It is interesting to me that Nygren had such an influence on Christian ideals of love when his claims often did not match up with Scripture. I find it strange to argue that love is one-sided, that it only comes from God and not from His creation. Is Nygren too nervous to give the power of love to God's creation? I would say that to have any type of relationship with anyone, including God, the feelings must be mutual. I would expect that God would want His creation to have love for Him, the Creator, as well. I can understand Nygren's argument that God is the source of love, but I also think that we have the power to decide whether or not to use that love for God and for others.
I think that as humans, since we are made in God's image, our intentions are to love but a lot of the time we fall short since that too is human nature. I think we can not truly experience "agape", if God is the source of love then thats the strongest form. We can not be God, so how can we achieve that caliber of love? But we do experience different forms of love which I believe God values just as much. Like I said earlier we are intended for good and love, to be Christian is to love others, yourself, God and God's creation. How can we do that without the different forms of love. I think if we were supposed to only have one way to love it would become a lot more "robotic" and not done freely by our own will, as it should be.
At first glance Nygren's thesis seems reasonable. That agape love in the only authentic Christian love, and all other loves are not. I think that agape is a good idea of God's love but I would not limit God's love to just agape. Love seems to be our best word for God's nature. I think even our ideas of love fall short of describing Gods nature, but it is all that we have.
Very important things distinguished and crucial ideas discussed. Some say God is in his essence 'love' is to say that God's existence is somewhat contingent on his being the fullest instantiation of 'love' (I hope that sounds consistent). Furthermore, if God necessarily loves His creation, with agape or unconditional or unlimited love, then God could and would choose to love his creation (assuming God has free will). It may seem necessary that loving, in the agape sense, is in His essential nature, but I don't understand how that connects to His "necessary" outpouring of love. If I fully instantiate 'whiteness', say my skin, and I was born with it. But, would I necessarily have to always instantiate 'whiteness'. I could dye my skin or take it off or do want Michael Jackson did to his skin. I think this anthropomorhpic analogy holds. Perhaps God's instantiation is more analogous to my being 'human' like Aquinas argued. So long as I am living I will instantiate 'human-ness' and I cannot help it. My existence is contingent as opposed to God's necessary existence (I am assuming God exists in that way). Moreover, we as human beings respond to God's love and choose to cooperate with it along with His divine Will. We are able to partake as well as receive His love, but only to a limited and perfect capacity (perfection as functioning well).
The idea that humans cannot love God seems completely ludicrous to me. As it was stated, love is essential to God's nature. We were created out of love, and as such, love is also an essential part of our being. I cannot imagine that God would create beings who could not love him back, especially since it is God who provides inspiration to Christians how to love others and the world more deeply and purely.
The only reasons that humans are able to love is because God loved us first by sending His son to die for us. God himself is perfect love, and being a being who has fallen from perfection we are no longer able to love like God loves us. We are only able to love because he has shown us how to love. And since he has shown us how to love, and combining it with free will, we can express what we think God shows us. I also think that since God is love and that we really do not know any physical characteristics of God, he allowed Jesus to give us examples of what God is and what love is.
It is very difficult for an author to foresee criticisms that may arise against his work decades after its publication, and to preemptively and conclusively address them therein. If Nygren were alive, he certainly would have had much to say in response to the comments and conclusions above. I certainly don't think he can be dismissed in the way that some have tried to do. The love of God is something wholly other to the love of the creature, although there are certainly commonalities between the two. Jesus spoke of a "new" commandment to love one another, yet the commandment was as old as the decalogue. The key, of course, has to do with the qualitative "as I have loved you", Herein is the newness – a love that is not evoked or stirred up, a love that is not dependent on the prospect of a reward, a love that is not aimed at satisfying some need in the lover, but a love that is free and gratis, as Barth used to say in his endorsement of Nygren, because it is birthed out of the very contentment that exists in God. Of course Agape does not suspend Eros or Phileo, but it rules over them, and herein is the key. Nygren serves as a mere introduction to the New Testament contrast between the love of God and the covetousness of humanity. If anything, his thoughts call for further development, not dismissal.


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The tiny village of Almagro is snug along the shoreline; bluff-like coconut fields rise up around the cluster of small homes and colorful fishing boats. Much like the river cities surrounding Winona, the village is surrounded by water and sloping forests. For local photographer Shannon Porter and his mother, Rosario, it's also home to about 50 family members, where Rosario was born and raised.
Like the more populated cities crushed by the gigantic typhoon, Almagro's tiny dot on the map was engulfed in the path of the eye of the storm, which destroyed homes and farms and many families' livelihoods. But the cameras aren't rolling in Almagro, relief efforts haven't reached the town, and the Porters' family members there are hoping that a small check from their U.S. kin might help them board the one passenger boat they know is coming, might allow them to buy a bag of rice to help them survive the time of chaos.
As he realized how many remote island villages were destroyed by the typhoon, and how little they might receive from aid organizations, Shannon quickly got to work, putting together a fundraising campaign for small communities like Almagro. He is hoping that Winona the island city, after all will adopt Almagro Island and help its residents recover and survive.
Rosario has learned that no one in her family was killed by the storm. She is able to receive limited information about the disaster via telephone from her brother Benigno Maranguez, who has some reception from his home in Manila. Rosario sends messages through Benigno, and when he is able to reach other family members in Almagro, he passes her words along.
She has learned that the roof of another brother's home was ripped from the structure by the winds, and the family's coconut farm was devastated. "They can't make money now," she explained, outlining plans to send some funds to get them through the next few days.
"Here you have this little village of fishermen and farmers who have no real outside resources," added Shannon, who explained that in Almagro, there are no power tools; rebuilding will be done by hand, and will take time and hard work. "We sit here in Minnesota in our big houses, and it feels like you can't do anything. You can only wonder what they're going through. Not only do they have to rebuild their homes, but their farms."
Rosario spent a month this spring at her childhood home, walking under the familiar umbrella of coconut trees, watching pick-up basketball games at the cement harbor that doubles as a court, laughing with friends and relatives as they sang karaoke. Because she knew that a massive storm was on its way, she said thoughts of her childhood home dominated her life over the last few days as she watched the tragic reports at her home in Wabasha. "I was praying, please typhoon, please, leave my family," she said. "I cannot go to sleep."
The villagers escaped the deadly storm by evacuating to the elementary school, one of the buildings in town made of cement. Rosario's great-great-grandfather helped found the village; he built the elementary school that saved villagers during the storm, and once the school was complete, people began moving to the island town to ensure their children received an education.
Shannon was able to travel to Almagro when he was a teenager, meeting family members a world away. Growing up in Weaver, Minn., "I was used to the small town feel," Shannon explained, "but there's no creature comfort there. It was definitely a beautiful little island; it really resembles a town the size of Fountain City with the bluffs and hillside behind it. It's on the other side of the world, but it's kind of similar, too."
Shannon has set up a fund for donations, from spare change to more generous donations, that will help the residents of Almagro and other small island communities affected by the typhoon. Checks may be made out to: Small Islands of the Philippines Relief Fund, care of Shannon Porter, and mailed to 170 East Third Street, Winona, Minn. 55987. A link at www.portergraph.com/islands will soon be available for online giving.
"We're just trying to help people who have nothing right now," he said. "It's the least I can do. Financially, if we're able to give a little, it ends up being a lot."
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We've been covering this case for more than five years. "Arapahoe County DA Charges Death-Penalty Fees to State," a February 2008 feature by Alan Prendergast, spotlighted the prosecution of Bueno, one of two cons charged with killing a fellow prisoner in 2004.
As we've reported, District Attorney Chambers sought the death penalty against Bueno, which puzzled attorney David Lane at the time. In an interview with Prendergast, he said Chambers's decision to seek the ultimate punishment against Bueno and fellow suspect Alejandro Perez, who was acquitted two years ago, "has been a head-scratcher from day one... In the history of the state, Colorado has never sought the death penalty for a prisoner killing another prisoner."Carol Chambers.
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I was wondering if anyone has built this house? Or if anyone has ever seen it built? I know it was recently mentioned on another thread, and when I inquired about buying the plans I was told that it was extremely popular.
We don't have farmland, rather 2.2 acres with a creek/river wrapping the property. I think the simplicity of the house would compliment the land rather than overwhelm it. It also seems like an affordable house to build. Any info on this plan would be much appreciated! Field of Dreams House: http://www.architecturalhouseplans.com/home_plans/37 |
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- Posted by kimberlyinva (My Page) on Thu, Feb 21, 08 at 10:56
Hi tinny! If you get a chance, check out Southern Livings Davenport plan. It's a little smaller (unless you finish the 3rd floor) but it was cheap to build (in my area, coastal NC). It will come out to approx. 138k. I have pictures, just have to figure out how to upload them. Anyway, just something to compare Field of Dreams too! :) I've always LOVED the Field of Dreams house also, but DH didn't like the floor plan...he likes big open ones, I'm the opposite). Oh well, maybe next go round! :) KAT |
Thanks, I will check it out! |
We have this house plan and love it. We've a few modifications like making a large walk in shower in the couples realm. We are on 12 acres in the middle of prairie grass and love sitting out on the porches and watching the wind blow through the grasses. The outside is just as good as inside. If you want some photos, I would be glad to share. |
jinxe, If you don't mind me hopping in, I would absolutely LOVE to see photos! I am in love with this house and plan. Ponydoc introduced me to this plan in a thread a while back. |
Here is a link that might be useful: Farmhouse thread
Nice house...but please tell me nobody actually uses the term "couples realm" to describe the master bedroom... |
I like this house! So different from my ranch style home! I love the porches and that screened in porch. The inside pictures where really pretty. I love the fireplace and all the windows in the kitchen. Jinxe, I can picture your house in my mind! Beautiful :-) I bet you adore sitting on your porch and looking out at the prairie fields!!! |
I'm bringing up this thread again because we're considering building this plan. Is there anyone else who has built it? Any things you particularly like or dislike about the plan? Recommendations? How was the affordability? Can anyone post pictures? |
Hi Birchbark! We are in the process of building this house! We bought the plans from architecturalhouseplans.com We had a designer put the plans into CAD, and he used the floor plan of Field of Dreams II and the detached garage from the original plan. We did not make many changes. In the kitchen we are going to a have a corner sink and a prep sink in the island. I am also moving the fridge. We added a French slider in the dining room, but that is about it. Jinxe e-mailed us her pictures a while back, and it was so wonderful to see how they had built it! I have not been able to find any other picures of the home online. We are not too far along in the process, but let me know if there are anymore questions I can answer for you! |
I'd love to see some pictures of the process. We're considering some of the very changes you mentioned.(Is there a way to PM on this forum?) |
- Posted by Heather(email@example.com) onSat, Nov 1, 08 at 21:06
We are strongly considering this plan and have the same questions posted by birchbark! Any info or pics that can be provided would be so wonderful and helpful! Thanks |
- Posted by David(firstname.lastname@example.com) onWed, Nov 5, 08 at 20:47
Hi All - We are about 2 months away from finishing this house in rural Va./Shenandoah Vally. Process has gone well despite a few issues with the plan (clarity for the builder). We loved the layout and design and many people comment on its uniqueness. Many (many, many) photos of the building process that I'm happy to share if anybody cares to see. |
- Posted by mightyanvil (My Page) on Thu, Nov 6, 08 at 8:23
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Here is a link that might be useful: original link
I don't have any exciting pictures to post yet. Walls should start going up in the next fews days, so hopefully soon. David, will you post some of your pictures? I would love to see them!! |
They really are selling the dream here aren't they? That dream of a by gone rural era. I love it personally and fall for it hook line and sinker. Love the porches. My only issues are the same issues I have with many two stories. Should I get hurt and not be able to manage stairs for awhile I want to be able to camp out on the first floor - i.e. I want a full bath on the same floor as the kitchen. |
Several have asked for photos so I uploaded to a shared site. For exterior, please go to: http://www.flickr.com/photos/30079512@N07/sets/72157608786429776/ and for interior please see: http://www.flickr.com/photos/30079512@N07/sets/72157608786821780/ Thanks - David |
wow! Thank you so much for the pictures. They took my breath away! What a gorgeous setting you have! The house is simply stunning. What kind of windows did you use? I saw that you built a half wall between the dining room and family room. I love how it opens the rooms up, but where will you put your tv? I have been struggling with that wall for the last few days. The built-in media center that is in the original plans seems like it is in an awkward spot. My framers are wanting an answer! Thanks again! It was so fun to see your pictures! |
Tinny - thanks for the reply, we're excited and nervous due to the end of our budget coming quicker than the end of the project. The house we sold to build this one was historic but chopped up, that drove the decision to make that media wall 1/2. We plan on putting our piano there for now (fits perfect) but wired for future TV/etc. The other side fits a buffet perfect for the dining room. We also ran wires above the fireplace for a nice flat panel if ever desired in the future. We decided to use the away room for the TV center for now. Three kids and other than the random Sponge Bob, we don't really watch a lot. Building corner shelves in that room to accommodate. |
- Posted by Erin(firstname.lastname@example.com) onFri, Nov 14, 08 at 2:09
We are building this house but are using S.I.P. panels they have just started to put the panels together and we did switch things around a bit. I will try and post some photos soon, for anyone who is interested. We did a Jack and Jill bathroom upstairs and mirror imaged the house (I am still trying to flip it around in my head). We also did a walk in shower in our master bath and put the laundry upstairs. Erin |
Thanks for the photos! Beautiful. Erin, I'd love to see yours too. Do you guys think the plan is pretty affordable per square foot? |
Birchbark - cost per square foot seems to change daily right now. For our region, the average is $165 - $200+. We were determined to hit $120 to $125 per square foot - I don't think we'll make it but shouldn't be too high over. The plan wasn't the most straight forward and there are several offsets (i.e., mudroom and 2nd floor as well as kitchen) that did add to the stick building price. We're 1.5 months away from finishing and looking at cutting some of what we wanted just to get in. |
We looked though numerous farm house plans online and through many books. We ended up drawing our own dream Farm House plans and took them into a local draftsman. He transformed our sketches into the Italianate Farm House plan we had been searching for but couldn't quite find. Our home is about 3200sqft including a partially finished basement. We have a great builder with a team of excellant craftsman allowing us to adjust our design as we go along. We are about 2 months out from completion. Located in southwest Michigan on 12 acres just outside the town of Saugatuck. We're about 30 miles from Grand Rapids and a 2 hour drive from Chicago. We've encorporated eco-friendly technology into a very traditional design. Heating, A/C and hot water are Geo-Thermal. Photos are posted on the below link. |
Here is a link that might be useful: Our Farm House Construction Photos
I am finally getting around to sharing some pictures. We are still in the framing stage, but it is wrapping up. We are hoping to build for around $100/sq ft ($244 if you include the land). We are owner building, and dh is doing a lot of the work himself. David, I would love to see some more of your pictures- you must be close now!! |
Here is a link that might be useful: Our Field of Dreams
Gary1227 your house is so cool! An Italinate farmhouse - what a great outcome. Now if I could just teleport your house out to my spot on the High Plains! Nice driveway entry too! |
Thanks Holyoak! We're happy with our outcome. Only wish we could have figured a way to built ours for a $100/sqft like tiny but we're not that handy. We should end up around $165/sqft for everything including that hunk of driveway. |
Hello! I am new to the forums. I found them by researching farm houses. I was sent to this thread and was so excited to see that some of you are building or have built the Field of Dreams home. Would those of you who posted on here before be willing to share some pics. I am not able to access any of the ones previosly posted other than gary1227's. Your house is gorgeous Gary! Thanks to all for considering my request and offering help! |
Bumping for more photos of the Field of Dreams! We have an offer on our house, so we may be building soon! |
You should still be able to see my pictures in the link above. Here are a few new ones, too. We had our windows and doors installed. I went with Lincoln windows with a matte black finish on the exterior. I couldn't be happier with them! Front doors are custom. Right now the plumber and electrician are finishing up. Siding should go on next week! Congrats on getting your house sold! Good luck getting started on your build! |
Here is a link that might be useful: Field of Dreams Progress
Thanks, tinny for answering me and linking your photos! The progress must be very exciting! Have you been able to stick to your budget so far? We will be GC and doing much of the work ourselves. Currently we are trying to get numbers together to get a rought estimate of what it is going to cost. What changes did you make to the plan? Did you leave the step down in to the mud room? Are you doing an attached garage? What are you doing between the kitchen and DR? I enjoy watching your pictures of the progress. Are you also blogging somewhere? I would love to read about your experience. Thanks, again! |
- Posted by JeffInCO(email@example.com) onMon, Jun 15, 09 at 10:33
Could someone post a few of the window sizes in the Field of Dreams plan for the living room and the upstairs? We're doing a remodel and trying to match the look and feel of this house. The windows look like they're about 30" wide, by scaling dimensions from the healthyhouseplans web site, but 30" wide windows don't meet egress requirements as single or double-hungs. Thanks! |
You are correct on the size, and no, they don't meet egress! We found this one out the hard way, and ended up having to make one window in each bedroom a casement. I was upset at first, but in the end I love the way it turned out! |
Thanks Tinny for confirming my suspicions. We tried to mix casements and double-hungs to address the egress issue, but multiple window bids came back with a note saying that this wouldn't look very good. Which window manufacturer did you use? Did you do anything in particular to soften the difference in appearance between casements and double-hungs? Thanks! Jeff |
We used Lincoln windows and they built the casements to look like double hungs. You can't tell from the outside unless they are open. |
- Posted by Susie(firstname.lastname@example.com) onFri, Jul 22, 11 at 14:35
I feel like I struck gold! I have been searching for a field of dreams home all of my life and just found this website. Where do I get plans to build it? We are approaching our retirement and want to spend the rest of our lives in a house like this. The only thing is I want more of a great room inside, no dining room, and big windows everywhere possible. Thanks so much for helping me make our dream come true! |
We are just completing the Field of Dreams Farmhouse. We are building on a raised foundation due to a high water table and are building the first floor all on one level instead of dropping the mudroom down a notch. We mirrored the plan and added 4ft to the library toward the mudroom and added 4 ft to the guest and Master bedrooms toward the mudroom. The laundry we moved upstairs and bumped out 4 ft toward the bedroom. We stole the closet from bedroom 3 and used it as the Master Bath shower, built a toilet room in the middle, made the walk in closet a tub/spa room and put the walk in closet where the tub, toilet and shower were. A 72in vanity occupies the long wall against the laundry room. Here is a link to our pictures so far. |
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Al Nusrah Front, foreign jihadists seize key Syrian base in Aleppo
The Al Nusrah Front for the People of the Levant, an al Qaeda-linked jihadist group that is fighting Bashir al Assad's regime in Syria, and allied jihadist groups took control of the last major Syrian Army base in western Aleppo after a two-month-long siege. The base is believed to be involved in Syria's chemical weapons program.
The Sheikh Suleiman base, or Base 111, fell to the Al Nusrah Front and "several Islamist rebel battalions linked to it," a representative of the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights told AFP. Foreign fighters are also said to have played a key role in the assault that led to the fall of the Sheikh Suleiman base, while nearby units of the Free Syrian Army stood by and watched.
"Many of the fighters were from other Arab countries and Central Asia," AFP said, based on observations from one of its reporters who covered the area. An estimated 300 to 400 Syrian soldiers defended the base before it fell to the jihadist alliance. Al Qaeda's black flag of jihad was raised over one of the buildings on the base as the fighting took place.
The two other Islamist groups who fought alongside Al Nusrah were identified as the Mujahedeen Shura Council and the Muhajireen group, according to The Associated Press. The term muhajireen means emigrants, a strong indication that many of its fighters are from outside of Syria.
Some of the fighters who took the base are non-Syrian. One of the leaders involved in the battle to take the base identified himself to AFP as Abu Talha and said he was from Uzbekistan. Other foreign fighters said, "We are all mujahedeens and muhajireens."
Captured base said to be part of Syria's chemical weapons program
The Sheikh Suleiman base is rumored to be involved in the Assad regime's chemical weapons program. The base "contained a clandestine scientific research whose purpose was unknown even to the rank and file," AFP reported in late November, based on a claim from a soldier who defected.
US officials have expressed concern that the Syrian government has been preparing to use chemical weapons against the rebels after suffering a string of defeats throughout the country. The US is also training Syrian rebels in Jordan to secure chemical weapons sites in the event that the Assad regime falls, CNN reported.
The Syrian government has warned that rebels may also use chemical weapons after the Al Nusrah Front took control control of a chlorine factory in Aleppo last week.
Islamists hold sway over new rebel military command
The fall of the Sheikh Suleiman base to jihadist forces took place just days after the supposedly secular rebels established a joint military command that is dominated by the Muslim Brotherhood and individuals linked to the various Salafist-jihadist groups.
"Its composition, estimated to be two-thirds from the Muslim Brotherhood and its allies, reflects the growing strength of Islamist fighters on the ground and resembles that of the civilian opposition leadership coalition created under Western and Arab auspices in Qatar last month, France 24 reported.
Senior military officers who defected from the Assad regime as well as military commanders opposed to the Muslim Brotherhood and Salafists were excluded from the joint command.
The Al Nusrah Front's position on the newly established joint military command is unclear. In mid-November, the Al Nusrah Front and 13 other jihadist groups based in Aleppo rejected the Western-backed National Coalition of Syrian Revolutionary and Opposition Forces, and instead called for the establishment of an Islamic state.
"We declare our legitimate rejection of what came to be called the 'national alliance.' An agreement has been reached to establish a just Islamic State and to reject any foreign project, alliances or councils that are forced on us domestically from any entity, whatever it is," according to a statement that was translated by the SITE Intelligence Group.
Al Nusrah becomes a dominant force in the Syrian insurgency
The Al Nusrah Front has by far taken the lead among the jihadist groups in executing suicide and other complex attacks against the Syrian military. The terror group has now claimed credit for 42 of the 51 suicide attacks that have taken place in Syria in the past 12 months. The group has also conducted numerous other attacks against the Syrian military and government.
The Syrian terror group is known to conduct joint operations with other Syrian jihadist organizations. In mid-November, Al Nusrah reported that it attacked a base in Idlib along with the Ahrar al Sham Brigades, and even shot down a Syrian MiG fighter aircraft.
The Al Nusrah Front is also known to conduct joint operations with the Free Syrian Army, which is often upheld as the secular resistance to Assad's regime. On Oct. 11, Al Nusrah, the Free Syrian Army, and Chechen fighters overran a Syrian air defense and Scud missile base in Aleppo [see LWJ report, Al Nusrah Front commanded Free Syrian Army unit, 'Chechen emigrants,' in assault on Syrian air defense base]. In August, Al Nusrah said it attacked a police station outside of Damascus along with the Al Sahaba Battalion, a unit of the Free Syrian Army that operates in the capital [see Threat Matrix report, Al Nusrah Front conducts joint operation with Free Syrian Army].
Al Nusrah has become more appealing to Syrian rebels as the group's fighters are better organized and have expertise from waging jihad in Iraq and elsewhere, and have integrated their operations with the Free Syrian Army.
Foreign jihadists have begun to pour into Syria to wage jihad against Assad's regime. Fighters from Morocco, Algeria, Tunisia, Libya, Egypt, Jordan, and the Palestinian Territories are known to have been killed in Syria. Recently, two of Abu Musab al Zarqawi's cousins were detained by Jordanian security forces after fighting in Syria.
Jihadists from the UK may be flocking to the Syrian battlefields as well. In mid-October, The Times reported that authorities had identified a Bangladeshi resident of London as the leader of a group of British jihadists seeking to fight in Syria. Scotland Yard seized computers and mobile phones from members of the group, which consists mainly of Londoners and includes seasoned Chechen fighters.
The US government is contemplating adding the Al Nusrah Front to the list of global terrorist groups, but some observers in Washington fear that designation would harm the overall insurgency.
READER COMMENTS: "Al Nusrah Front, foreign jihadists seize key Syrian base in Aleppo"
Posted by mike merlo at December 10, 2012 3:21 PM ET:
a definitely out of control situation
Posted by Tony at December 10, 2012 5:19 PM ET:
Any idea if this may be related?
Israel Deploys Commandos to Syria to Monitor WMD: Report
Posted by David at December 10, 2012 6:43 PM ET:
It has to be related. It only makes sense. The Western powers cannot act against the regime without provoking Russia to intercede. On the other hand, if chemical weapons fall into the hands of "non-state actors" (read, al qaeda et al) then the calculus becomes more complex. I am sure that the Russians are not exactly thrilled with the idea of Chechen rebels getting their hands on sarin and VX anymore than the US, Israel and the UK are.
To quote one of the best movies of all time. "I say we take off and nuke the site from orbit. It is the only way to be sure."
Posted by kush dragon at December 10, 2012 8:22 PM ET:
Awesome, now we are supporting "rebels" who might get access to chemical weapons. I have no love for Assad, but does anyone really doubt this will come back to haunt us?
Posted by Paul T at December 11, 2012 8:06 AM ET:
We have been arming & protecting Al-Queda branches since 1979.
Now is the time to reflect & decide how that is working out.
Posted by mohammed at December 11, 2012 2:20 PM ET:
No matter what the US and its allies try, the mujahideen world wide are on a roll. With just Afghanistan a decade ago, the Jihad has spread through out the world inspite of massive spending and military efforts. Not difficult to imagine how things will be in a decade of declining US influence and power.
Posted by mike merlo at December 11, 2012 2:21 PM ET:
@Tony & David
the Russians without a doubt are just as if not more concerned about bio-chem weapons finding their way into the hands of people who pose a threat to Russia. Even the TLWJ itself has commented on Chechens being present in Syria.
I think the time for being concerned about a provoked Russia has since past.
"I am sure that the Russians are not exactly thrilled with the idea of Chechen rebels getting their hands on sarin and VX anymore than the US, Israel and the UK are." David
I am sure the Turks & every other country in the 'neighborhood' have long since passed "thrilled" on the tingle barometer
Posted by Witch Doctor at December 11, 2012 10:18 PM ET:
From Paul T:
We have been arming & protecting Al-Queda branches since 1979.
Now is the time to reflect & decide how that is working out.
We all know the time for reflection has long passed. Now is the time to decide what we are going to do about it.
As the terrorists grow in number and geographic location we will need to keep them from actually becoming one unified front.
If anyone knows how to prevent that please chime in. I have my own ideas, but they are not nice ones.


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Tyler, Texas (FOX51) — Let me say no one has more respect for Peace Officers than I do. My grandfather was one and from what I hear, a pretty good one. But, some of the tactics officers, especially federal officers, employed under this administration are suspect.
In Alaska, for example, there is a lot of federally owned land and a lot of free spirits inhabiting that great state.
The Alaska Dispatch reports, in the mining community of Chicken, less that 10 miners were digging for gold when all of the sudden they were pounced on by agents of the Alaska Environmental Crimes Task Force with jackets saying "police."
They demanded to know if any water rights were being broken. The miners told media, "Why didn't they just walk in the front door of their cabin and ask for a water sample."
Here's another story. A 70-year-old man was near Chicken on the Yukon River in his boat when he was shouted down by armed park rangers to stop for an inspection. The man cursed at them, and I don't recommend you do that, but he thought it was dumb for a river boarding and he took his boat to the shore.
He was taken to Fairbanks and found guilty my a Federal Magistrate for not puling over fast enough and then more miners from Chicken, population 17, were swarmed by more federal agents who were armed with body armor.
They were there to make sure miners were complying with the clean water act.
So, after people raised Hell, the two senators in Alaska are asking questions.
The EPA says the state troopers told them there were water violations going on, but the state troopers say that's a lie. The senators are calling Bravo Sierra on the EPA claims.
Man, I tell ya folks, this bunch at the EPA right now needs to be neutered.
That's my point of view, what's yours?
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Who do you think she looks more like Tyler or Catelynn?
Monday, July 8, 2013
Tyler and Catelynn's UPDATE On Carly!
Who do you think she looks more like Tyler or Catelynn?
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- AnonymousJuly 14, 2013 at 4:20 PM
I think she looks just like Tyler..She is so pretty...:-)
ReplyDelete - AnonymousJuly 22, 2013 at 7:30 PM
she is very beautiful looks alot like tyler but Norma is right tyler and catelynn signed there rights off to carly so there not even parents so they need to stop calling Teresa and her husband the adopted parents cause those two where there for carly since day one sad to say kids now adays need to be more smart so they dont have to make a decision like this if tyler and catelynn were alot older they would of been carlys one and only family but there not there just carlys biological mom and dad but they dont have any rights to carly so i would just call Teresa and her husband her real parents
ReplyDelete She looks like both Tyler and Catelynn. She holds her mouth like catelynn but you can see tyler in her eyes. And as far as the parent thing goes, they have an open adoption so basically she can have 2 sets of parents and tyler and catelynn gave her up so that she could have a better life than they could provide at the time, because neither of their situation was a good one to bring Carly into. Hence why they wanted an open adoption not a closed one to where they would never be able to see an update on carly.
ReplyDelete- AnonymousDecember 28, 2013 at 5:54 PM
She has biological and adoptive parents. The term "real" is where things get hairy for some people. I say just keep it factual, instead of trying to say who it is more morally correct to refer to as her "real" parents. We could all probably stand to call Brandon and Theresa her "parents," but sometimes for people who don't know the whole story, the terms biological and adoptive can be helpful.
She is just beautiful. She looks so much like Tyler, but the shape of her head and some of her proportions are Catelynn. - AnonymousFebruary 26, 2014 at 10:56 AM
She looks like both of her biological parents, she's beautiful!!!!


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In January 13, 2003, Administrator Christine Todd Whitman announced the issuance of the final water quality trading policy by stating that, "the most effective and economical way to reduce pollution is to provide incentives to encourage action by those who can achieve reductions easily and cost-effectively". The policy supports the trading of nutrients and sediments within a watershed. Additionally, the US EPA is providing $800,000 to support 11 projects around the country. The following links provide more information.
1. EPA Water Quality Trading Page
2. EPA Watershed-based NPDES Permitting website
TWG Program home page
2009 Targeted Watershed GrantsLink to 2004 TWG web page
US EPA Sponsored National Forum on Water Quality Trading, Chicago, IL. July 22-23, 2003.
US EPA 2nd National Water Quality Trading Conference. Pittsburgh, PA, May 23-25, 2006.
2005: Water quality trading projects include:
2008 Farm Bill Website
Conservation Measures (including market-based incentives) web page
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Water Quality Trading: Social and Legal Issues - USDA Site Page