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R&R is an abbreviation commonly used for Registration and Records, the office that is managed by the University's Registrar. If you have any questions that are not addressed by this web site, or if you find elements of this web site which are not functioning, please contact us.
What is a Permission number? (Answer)
A permission number is a special key that allows you to bypass a problem that is blocking your enrollment in a particular course. You may need a permission number if:
Permission without a number: Many units are now assigning permission for you to enroll on My.Butler. When this happens, you do not need to enter the special number; just enroll in the class as you would any other, and the system will recognize you have been given permission.
How to get a permission number.
Once you are issued a permission number, you can enter it in Add a Class. Select the specific section, and enter the permission number before you click NEXT. Permission numbers are different for each class and for each semester, and may be specifically assigned to a student. If your permission number is rejected, return to the issuer and see if the correct course and semester were used. If the issuer cannot resolve the problem, call Registration and Records at 940-9203.
What is a requisite? (Answer)
When a department creates a new class, they frequently specify the qualifications a student must have to participate effectively in the class. A prerequisite is a qualification that the student must have before s/he enrolls. Examples include another course which prepares you for this subject material, a major that you must be in to take the course, or a primary instrument for which you must have demonstrated a proficiency. A corequisite is a course that must be taken in the same semester with this course. All requisites are documented in the Butler Bulletin. You can see class requisites in Course Search by clicking on the title of the class. You can also see them in My.Butler.edu, in Class Search/Browse Catalog by finding the class and then clicking on the title of the course.
To register for a course which has a corequisite, you must register for both at the same time. Select the sections for all the corequisite courses before you go to Step 2 of the enrollment process.
If you are currently enrolled in a class which serves as a prerequisite for a class you want to take in the future, that's no problem. The system allows the prerequisite unless a failing grade has been posted.
Why didn't I get an Early Term Grade Report? (Answer)
Early term grades are available to view on My.Butler.edu through your Student Center about the 6th week of classes to first and second year undergraduate students. Juniors, Seniors, and graduate students do not receive Early Term Grades.
What is the difference between dropping a class and withdrawing from a class? (Answer)
Before the semester starts, and during the first 10 days of classes, you may drop a class, and it will not show on your transcript. Continuing students can drop a class themselves on My.Butler.edu, with no paperwork or approvals until 11:59 pm on the last drop date. First year students, during their first semester on campus, along with non-degree seeking students, must meet with their advisor who will help them drop a class. After the 10th day of classes, you may still withdraw from a class. The class will still show on your transcript, with a grade of W. You will not get any credit for this class, and it will not be counted in your GPA. To withdraw from a class, start with your advisor; you will need a Drop/Add/Withdraw form, signed by your advisor and the instructor of that class. Once you have obtained the approvals, take the form to Jordan Hall 133. Copies will be returned to you and your department once the class has been dropped.
What is Pass/Fail? (Answer)
Pass/fail means the grade for the class will be either Pass or Fail, not the standard A/B/C/D/F grading scheme. The grading system is fully described in the Butler Bulletin, section Academic Regulations and Definitions, starting on page 59. Some classes are designated as always getting a Pass/Fail grade. There are limits on what courses can be taken Pass/Fail. See your advisor.
Why can't I drop a course? (Answer)
If you can log into My.Butler.edu, there are two reasons why you may not be able to drop a course:
How can I get an unofficial transcript? (Answer)
Current students can view their own unofficial transcript on My.Butler.edu. Just log in, then go to Self Service--> Academic Records --> View Unofficial Transcript and click on Go. Read more about requesting an unofficial transcript.
How can I change a class to P/F? (Answer)
While drop/add is still open, you may submit a written request to Registration and Records, JH133. Please indicate the semester and the class, state that you want to change to P/F, (or change P/F back to a standard grade) and sign the request. Once the drop/add period is over, you may still change for about 4 weeks (please check the Academic Calendar for the specific deadline) with the approval of your advisor and the instructor. See your advisor for the appropriate form.
If I have been out of school for a while, do I have to reapply to come back? (Answer)
If you were a student in good standing when you left, you may return to the same degree program by submitting a Returning Student Application.
Do I have to apply for graduation even if I'm not going to attend the ceremony? (Answer)
Yes. We have a lot to do to verify that you are ready to graduate, and to order an appropriate diploma. Read More
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There are many types of Holds, also called Service Indicators. They indicate that there is something that you must do in order to take advantage of certain services. The most common Hold is an advising hold; once you review your degree progress with your advisor, they should remove the hold, and this allows you to participate in self-service registration. For most other Holds, you must contact the person who placed the hold to determine how to clear it. You can see who placed the hold on My.Butler.edu, on the top right of the Self Service Student Center page. More.
To keep my medical or driver's insurance coverage, my parents' insurance company needs a letter saying I am still a student. How do I get that? (Answer)
You can get an enrollment verification several ways. You can enter the request on My.Butler.edu and it will be sent out within a week. You can also call R&R at 317-940-9203, or come in to our service counter at JH133. Please have your identification, and the address or fax number where the verification should be sent. Click here for Help instructions on how to enter the My.Butler request.
What is an Enrollment Appointment? (Answer)
Your enrollment appointment is the date and time after which you may enroll in classes for a new semester using Self Service functions in My.Butler.edu. Appointments are necessary to limit the load on the computer network and ensure that you will get good response as you go through the process. Appointments are distributed throughout the 2 week registration period. Appointments are generally set during the day and early evening so that you can call for help if you have problems. Appointments are assigned by student classification (Seniors, Juniors, Sophomores, Freshmen) and then by descending credit hours earned. You may register for a class any time after your appointment, through the end of the drop/add period at the beginning of the term. You can find your enrollment appointment by logging onto My Butler.edu and going to Self Service, then Student Center. Your appointment time is on the right.
You should talk with your advisor before your enrollment appointment. Your advisor's name and phone number are listed just under the enrollment appointment on My.Butler. Call to make an appointment.


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Apple's shares hit resistance
PUBLISHED: 27 Oct 2012 00:07:34 | UPDATED: 27 Oct 2012 02:38:07PUBLISHED: 27 Oct 2012 PRINT EDITION: 27 Oct 2012John McDuling
The icons of Silicon Valley faced a stern test this week as a combination of soft quarterly earnings and risky product launches triggered notable falls in share prices.
The question on investors' minds is whether recent signs of weakness for cult stocks like Apple is a harbinger of worse things to come, or merely a brief pause in the long-term rise of the technology sector.
Amid all the doom and gloom of the post global financial crisis era, one constant positive for global equity investors has been the almost unchecked rise in iconic device maker Apple's share price.
The California-based giant has become the biggest company in history, thanks to a near-constant stream of blockbuster products such as the iPhone and iPad that have inspired a cult-like following among its loyal customers.
But the release of two new versions of its iPad tablet this week were not enough to arrest a slide in its share price. The stock fell into correction territory – down more than 13 per cent from a record high in mid-September – after the company delivered uncharacteristically subdued quarterly results.
"Apple is the most widely held stock by US hedge funds, followed by Google," said Insync Funds Management chief investment officer Monik Kotecha. "In that sense it's a crowded trade and any disappointment is going to be punished."
Apple shipped a fewer-than-expected 14 million iPads during the quarter, while its forecasts for the December quarter, when the impact of its iPhone 5 release will begin to feed through, underwhelmed a market that is increasingly hard to impress after years of upside surprises.
However, despite the recent retracement, the stock is still up a staggering 50 per cent in 2012. And, despite those gains, Apple is trading on an undemanding multiple of 11.4 times forward earnings which looks even less lofty when its massive, $US120 billion cash pile is stripped out.
That is a far cry from the multiple of more than 80 times earnings Microsoft was trading on when it was the biggest company in history at the turn of the millennium.
Fittingly, this was also a make-or-break week for Microsoft, which unveiled the Surface, its tablet pitted against the iPad, as well as the riskiest and most important update of its Windows operating system yet. Only time will tell whether the fallen giant has truly rediscovered its mojo.
Ironically, the winner by default this week was probably Facebook, whose dismal sharemarket performance since listing has made it the poster child for advocates of a tech bubble, version 2.0.
Mark Zuckerberg's brainchild beat forecasts and even provided investors with evidence it is coping better with the shift from desktops to mobile devices that threatens its advertising model.
Facebook shares popped 19 per cent on Wednesday, their best session since listing.
But the stock is still down more than 40 per cent since debuting on the boards in May.
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Lou's interview with Justin (which was nicely done btw...) made me think of the video applications for the top 10 finalists. To my dismay, they seem to have been removed from the official sites. (i.e. Meet Justin Vance Muchoney from Seven Fields, Pennsylvania - Candidate for the Disney CMO presented by CareerBuilder.com - Live the Magic in 2008 - Disney CMO for example)
I did some youtube searches and stumbled onto a couple. I know it's a long shot, but does anybody know if there is still a collection of these out there?
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On 09/19/2011 20:29, Rich Freeman wrote: > > See: > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/UsrMove > > That is some of the rationale for Fedora. It isn't a bad idea both > for destop-oriented and server-oriented setups. It especially makes > sense for a more traditional distro with versioned releases (basicaly > you just drop in a new /usr and you're done minus a few /etc updates - > and if you make /etc nothing but overrides from defaults then it would > itself be almost empty and not need updates much). > > Sure, we're not really planning to do that with Gentoo, but that is > the pressure upstream is under. When you have big distros pushing all > the major projects in a particular direction we need to be really > selective about where we push back. > > The sky isn't falling though - nobody is looking to go out of their > way to break non-root /usr, and we are looking to have a minimal > initramfs even for those cases where it breaks a little. > > Rich Good info, thanks! It definitely seems like something RH is cooking up for future releases of RHEL, where their primary customer base is going to be installing clusters and a ton of VMs. I understand this, but I still disagree with them pushing for this to be the default in a way to influence major projects. Regardless if Gentoo goes in that direction or not, if enough core software adopts this, we'll essentially have no choice but to adopt the same. That's what I take issue with -- the whims of a commercial enterprise ultimately deciding, at some possible, future point, what path we take. In other words, those of us not running cluster farms shouldn't have to change things, even slightly (like using an initramfs if needed) for those that do. Linux's greatest asset is its extreme configurability -- a single source tree can be compiled to run on super computers or cable boxes. And I see yet another reference to MacOS's /System in that link, too... -- Joshua Kinard Gentoo/MIPS firstname.lastname@example.com 4096R/D25D95E3 2011-03-28 "The past tempts us, the present confuses us, the future frightens us. And our lives slip away, moment by moment, lost in that vast, terrible in-between." --Emperor Turhan, Centauri Republic
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Yes. It's true, revision 898 was the lucky number. For the impatient, go get it.
What is K2?
This is K2. You're looking at it. K2 is a theme for WordPress based on experiences learned during the development and release of Kubrick, the default theme of WordPress since version 1.5.
K2 comes with a handful of elegant features, such as live search and live archives, as well as support for a variety of plugins. And most importantly, K2 was built with people like ourselves in mind; people who prefer to do their customizing through CSS files and child themes rather than through rigid options and presets.
It's seen about half a million downloads in its lifetime, and is as a result pretty solid by now.
Onto the 1.0 Announcement
I never thought it would take this long, but then I never thought K2 would live this long either. I chalk it up to hard working folks like Steve and Eric, who helped keep K2 alive in my absence over the past year. Also of course, we wouldn't be here without the help of Chris, Ben and Zeo. And, ehm, me. Thanks guys!
So what does 1.0 mean for K2? Well, first of all it means that K2 is at the best place it's ever been. It's solid as a rock both in terms of features and WordPress integration as well in terms of compliance with traditional web standards as well as microformats and ARIA. We've cleaned up in the codebase and K2 has lost some weight here and there (smallest download ever I think). And leading up to this 1.0 release, we've spent some time polishing up the interface details.
K2 was always meant to be a practical framework-ish theme, rather than a stunning looker. And as such it has a pragmatic beauty to it perhaps, but it's real power is in its customizability through CSS (and of course child themes, though that's a tad more complex, and in most cases unneeded exactly because we spent so much time on optimizing for CSS customizations).
Ode to SBM
It's worth mentioning that the last remnants of the old SideBar Manager, or SBM, have now been removed from the codebase. It started out as a fully-fledged replacement for WP's lacking widgets system and ended up as a patch-of-sorts to the widget system, allowing for widgets to be placed only on specified pages. But in the end, while the native widget system is still very much in need of an update, it didn't feel right for K2 to try and cover that particular area of the administration interface. And besides, other plugins for doing just that exist already.
So instead of spending our time patching that system for an ever-changing WordPress, our time is probably better spent on more theme-specific functionality, like the rolling archives or livesearch systems, as well as keeping up with new WordPress features, like for instance Post Thumbnails.
Furthermore, we've got more semantic classes than the pope. Browser type, language, current layout type, date, day, year and so on. View Source and check out some of the BODY
classes; they let you do some pretty cool stuff using only CSS (like honoring Pirate Day for instance).
K2 is as always meant for use with the latest version of WordPress, which is of course 2.9. That said, we've done our best to retain compatibility and as such K2 should be backwards-compatible all the way back to 2.5. As always, if you have any problems, let us know.
The Road Ahead
There are two major things on the program for the 1.1 version of K2: Localization and Documentation. Capital letters and all.
We've had a lot of localization efforts from the community since we started, and it's always been a dream that we would be able to ship those localizations with K2 and provide an easy way for it to 'just work'. So that's something we'll be spending some time with. If you're a localizer, or if you'd like to be one, head on over to our localization page and do your thing. We'll get some more in-depth tutorials up as soon as the holidays give us some breathing room.
Also, it's long been a dream of mine to see K2 properly documented. Not only in terms of what it can do, or how it does it, but also for things like how to actually do a localization, where it may be a bit hard to figure out how to get into it in the first place. So I'd like to do something about that.
And of course we already have a lot of other ideas, which will also start seeing the light of day in the coming weeks.
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Jeffrey Dahmer was a cannibal, Charles Manson was a deranged cult leader and John Wayne Gacy, worst of all, dressed up like a friggin' clown. Yet the complete list of these horrible, horrible murderers - together with dozens of depraved others - is apparently about 3,000 words less significant than the list of Maverick boss characters in the Mega Man X series.
And that's compared to the list of serial killers by country. Look up the list of serial killers by number of victims and the difference grows to 6,000. Go ahead and add the two lists together if you want - at 8,000 words total, they still fall short of the sheer terror and infamy inspired by Cyber Peacock, Blizzard Buffalo, Overdrive Ostrich and Armored Armadillo. Ooh, we're getting chills just thinking about them!
Above: The true face of evil
Let's be honest. Who doesn't love Gardulla the Hut? Who didn't have a poster of Cole Fardreamer or Elan Sleazebaggano hanging on their bedroom wall as a kid? Who wouldn't beg their parents to buy them that Klaatu action figure for the holidays?
Qwi Xux, Plo Koon, 2-1B, Chief Chirpa, Yarna D'al Gargan, Baron Soontir Fel, Meewalh, Oola, Commander Cody, Baron Soontir Fel, Trask Ulgo, Gartogg, Wam "Blam" Lufba and, of course, little Windy... all of them are forever entwined in our dreams and imaginations.
Clearly, the list of minor characters in the Star Wars universe should be seven times as large as the page on the Founding Fathers of the United States. Clearly.
Also more important than the Founding Fathers!
• Minor Star Wars droids = 10,105
• Minor Star Wars villains = 9,648
• Minor Star Wars bounty hunters = 5,236
• Minor Sonic the Hedgehog characters = 12,595
• Minor Mortal Kombat characters = 6,286
• Minor StarCraft characters = 5,640
• Minor One Piece characters = 17,446
• Minor Sailor Moon characters = 7,251
• Minor Gundam Wing mobile suits = 3,584
• Minor recurring characters in Star Trek: Deep Space Nine = 5,097
Heed our warning - Wikipedia is only the beginning. Soon, textbooks will have entire chapters devoted to fairies and fishmen. Language students will learn Goron instead of Greek. History class will forgo the Romans for the Rito, while anthropology discards the Spanish and Swedish for the Subrosians and Skull Kids.
Nonsense, you say? Tell that to the 730 million residents of Europe, whose deep and diverse ethnic backgrounds just got pwned by a bunch of elves, gnomes, talking twigs, golden frogs and mutant chickens.
Oh yeah, and Tingle.
Also more important than the population of Europe!
• Elder Scroll races = 8,489
• Pokemon types = 4,362
• Final Fantasy monsters = 6,637
• Halo aliens = 5,478
• Middle-earth orcs = 4,845
• Fictional cats = 10,248
• Fictional dragons = 8,651
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After 6 long years of setting and blasting buds my imperialis finally opened and it was worth the wait!!!
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- Posted by dmichael619 8a (My Page) on Wed, Jun 1, 11 at 18:04
langlin, gorgeous flowers and awesome photos of them as well!!! And it only took 6 years!!!!! I had mine just as long and never even got a peduncle let alone a flower!!! The vine grew along the rafters of the gh roof and was well over 13 ft long. It got to the point that it was hanging everywhere so I chopped it up and tried to start a new pot which ended up being a big mistake because I ended up losing all of it. Congrats on the killer flowers!!!! david |
- Posted by greedyghost 5 (My Page) on Wed, Jun 1, 11 at 18:12
/Langlin Those are just spectacular. When they get this big I remember all over again why they got the common name 'wax flower.' Your blooms look so unreal. /David That is just about the saddest single Hoya story I've ever heard. Arggghghghg! |
- Posted by dmichael619 8a (My Page) on Wed, Jun 1, 11 at 19:12
GG, i'm not sure what I did wrong while trying to root those cuttings but none made it and i'm sure you can imagine just how many I had from a multi stemmed hoya that was over 13ft long. I've never had issues with rooting imperialis before but it sure bombed out that time!!! I got a new start last year from a forum member here and it rooted right away. that start is just now putting out it's first new growth. My H. imperialis "alba" is actively growing again after a long winter nap. It is just over 2 years old and has a peduncle towards the top but it's just sitting there doing nothing. This plant is a single vine about 7-8 ft long and I really want to cut it up and make new starts but don't have the heart to do it!! |
- Posted by kidsandcats 7 (My Page) on Wed, Jun 1, 11 at 19:27
Those flowers are GORGEOUS- what a beautiful dusty pink! I love how they almost look like alien flowers or something :) I have an imperialis that's just a baby, only about a foot tall now. I hope I get blooms one day! |
Congratulations on the blooms, after 6 years I think I would want to throw a party. I have had orchids take that long and I just know half of my Hoyas will make me wait that long as well. I think I have the deep red variety of imperialis but I would love to grow more than one colour form. I just added Hoya obtusifolia so that will have to do because it's a huge growing species that is quite similar to imperialis. Mike |
Oh how beautiful and my favorite color to boot. I have one called pink pearl, it died back to about 4 inches and is just now starting to make a tiny shoot. It did not like being in the house during the winter as it way quite large when I brought it in last fall. Dee |
- Posted by kellyknits 6/WV Eastern Panhand (My Page) on Wed, Jun 1, 11 at 22:07
Langlin, That's beautiful! I'm with Mike, I'd be throwing a party! David, Kelly |
- Posted by dmichael619 8a (My Page) on Wed, Jun 1, 11 at 22:17
Kelly, if you only knew!!!!! trust me I have my fair share of them I just keep them a secret!!! |
spectacular !! |
- Posted by kellyknits 6/WV Eastern Panhand (My Page) on Thu, Jun 2, 11 at 8:06
Langlin, Do you know which imperialis this is? David, Kelly |
I really like the color, it's beautiful. Congrats. I was having trouble with my two this year, but I seem to have figured out what was wrong. Only 4 more years to go. Renee |
Wow Langlin...Congrats!! It is definitely worth the wait isn't it? Definitely the largest blooms I've ever had on any hoya to date. They also lasted quite a while which was nice since we wait SO long for them to bloom. Your blooms are beautiful and so is the color!! Enjoy... David, I'm SO sorry to hear about yours...it is a very sad story. Renee, don't give up...mine took about 2 1/2 years to bloom...so maybe yours won't take 6 yrs,lol... |
- Posted by ima_digger 9 SE FL (My Page) on Thu, Jun 2, 11 at 10:36
Langlin, what a georgous bloom. I don't have that one yet. I'm afraid that if I had to wait six years, I may not be around to see it. (I'm 76 yrs old). Hoya and Orchids are my passion, but they grow outside all year. Not too good since the weather pattern has changed the past two years. David, I thought you had 'magic fingers' as far as your hoya. I see only your beautiful pictures. I've seen your postings on other forums in past years. I know you have a massive collection. I guess I never thought you would lose any. You keep mum about your failures. You should share with us. We are 'family'. You will help us learn. And please, keep posting those gorgeous pics. I never tire of looking at them. |
langlin you give me hope!! i may only have 2 years to go. congratulations she is gorgeous. Im in southern NM, im sure you have WAY more humidity than i do, but would you mind sharing your growing conditions/soil recipe? My imp is 4 years old and just devouring the window shes in, but shes never shown signs of a peduncle. Nancy i took yours and dmicheals advice and bound up my imp and put her in a window that gets pretty intense morning sun. she has taken off again (greedy eater like you guys mentioned) and is putting out new vines everyday. hopefully this is the push she needed to give me some presents. dmicheal-i remember when you got that alba. im sorry about your giant, its always hard when you cant keep a piece. But im happy that you have a new peduncle started on your alba. i lost the cutting of alba i got when you got yours. But i tried again this year, finally got roots-(holding my breath) |
- Posted by greedyghost 5 (My Page) on Thu, Jun 2, 11 at 12:25
David, I CAN imagine how many starts you had off a 13' plant! Your account just goes to show none of us should beat ourselves up too much over failing to root a cutting. There's just no telling sometimes what the plant will or will not do, even if it seems all the variables are in our favor. It's probably foolhardy for me to consider starting a new imperialis in my climate, but if I did, I think I would go with imperialis 'alba,' so I think you're lucky to be doing so well with this one. As far as sharing failures goes, I kind of agree with everything that has been spoken here. On one hand, it does help release the poison a bit (as well as share wisdom) when we dump our tragic stories amongst kindred spirits. On the other hand, a lot of the time when something goes wrong, it's hard to tell why, and then what is there to say? At least that's how I feel when I'm staring at a vine turning into a stick, wracking my brain trying to figure out whether meddling will help it or put the last nail in its coffin. |
- Posted by langlin2000 (My Page) on Sun, Jun 5, 11 at 14:51
Thank you all for the nice comments and here are some answers, first David you have so many bloomers that I have admired and I know you'll get this one back. This Hoya is huge and has over 50 peduncles but they would always blast, I moved from the Ozarks to south Texas in 2008 and brought about 40 varieties with me but they do not like the move at all. Only lost four but it is so dry compared to the Ozarks and I had the perfect growing area there. Here I don't have enough light or humidity but I have had a lot of blooms here too, maybe they like the struggle to survive? Kelly, I don't know which this is, I ordered from a grower in Florida and was told it was "Red". Leon |
- Posted by langlin2000 (My Page) on Sun, Jun 5, 11 at 15:03
jsainz, I think San Antonio is very much like south New Mexico and it's tough to grow house plants but I use Scotts potting mixure about 3 to 1 with Pearlite and water when dry. Leon |
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This year is the 20th anniversary of Backyard Babies, even though they managed to release their first album in 1994. Since then, they have five albums out, including the exceptional last year's "People Like People Like People Like Us". Nick Borg, the singer of the band since 1989, gave a long interview to Rockpages.gr, talking about the Babies' experiences in Greece, his memories from the AC/DC tour, the Scandinavian scene, the music business, the tough period when Dregen played with the Hellacopters, as well as what keeps him rocking in the hard place called rock'n'roll.
Interview by George Anasontzis and Yiannis Dolas
Rockpages.gr: Have you ever been in Athens before last year's show?
Nicke Borg: We've been to the Rhodos island back in 1991, we actually played there as well... So we were excited when we arrived last time and we went out for dinner and we got very drunk and there was a party for us somewhere at a place called Texas. This is getting like... We're getting older now and it's not as - well, yesterday it wasn't that dangerous - but we've done everything you can possibly do so far... This was one reason why we started the band, why we started playing music together in the first place, to have fun. And there's been a big lack of fun in music over a long time... Back in the 80s there was always been basically about having a good time, have fun, any people can have fun with us and... pfff... I'm happy, you know. Cause, if I wasn't enjoying myself, I couldn't do it. I can't stand on stage and faking and hate it. I have to love it. Some gigs are fucking awful, some are wonderful and coming to Greece was really cool.
Rockpages.gr: So, you have played in 1991 in Rhodos, you said...
Nicke Borg: In Rhodos, yeah... We were there on vacation and we borrowed the equipment from a covers' band...
Rockpages.gr: You didn't have an LP yet...
Nicke Borg: Yeah, we had the EP. It's still hanging in a bar in Rhodos island. It was a new owner who actually got hold of us on the internet and he said: "I have an album cover hanging in my bar. Is that you guys? Can you sign it?" Because, you know, we were nothing at the time and we realized "This must be a big fan, saying he has 'the original, hanging in my bar'. So we stayed there for a week.
Rockpages.gr: So, that's where you played?
Nicke Borg: No, no. We played in a place called... I don't remember... Rock Box or something... We were like seventeen or something and it was fun. Pretty much the same things happened last time. I was crazy, we fell over, broke a leg blah blah... (laughs)
Rockpages.gr: Whoever we ask to tell us which their influences are and what they were listening, they tell us the Backyard Babies. From Gluecifer to, maybe, Nashville Pussy. That's a lot of different bands. How do you feel about that, to know that you are an influence to other bands.
Nicke Borg: That's a very good, how to say... proof that what you do is actually making sense. Other people getting inspired by you, influenced by you, is like a Christmas present for you. You say "Ok, that's cool, man". It gives you a little bit more power to carry on, to keep on doing what you're doing, because it is hard today... Record sales are going down, record companies are fucking stupid and everybody's scared about what is going to happen with the whole industry. We took the chance to be on a major company years ago to see how far we can push this band, which has been a struggle. I hate it in a way, because it's hard to work with people that don't like music... they're just interested in the cash, you know. And since there is no cash in rock music in that way anymore, in rock music, they don't wanna do anything with you, because you don't generate so much money. But to have other bands getting influenced by you then maybe I do something good. That makes you want to continue.
Rockpages.gr: I guess it must have been hard when you started the band, because you started in 1989 and you didn't release a record for the next five years.
Nicke Borg: Well, I guess... if I wanna be really honest, I would never want to start over again. It's too much hard work, so I'm looking at young bands today and I tell them like "Fucking don't give up. It's a long way there. You can be lucky or if you want to do it the hard way and work your way up, it's gonna take a long time". But, it's nothing that I regret, I wouldn't have done anything different... We started in a very small town and our music was a wholly wrong music at the time we came up with our first album, with grunge, hip hop, metal, and we always played glam rock, sleaze, hard rock, whatever... It's not the easiest music to choose, but anyway, that's in our heart, you know, we grew up with that stuff.
Rockpages.gr: How did you feel when the whole Scandinavian scene started to gain some ground?
Nicke Borg: It was kinda weird because all of a sudden everybody started talking about Scandinavian scene and for me, I never thought about it as a scene, because we'd been playing since so long and a lot of other bands also had been playing for quite a bit, before everybody started saying that Scandinavia rocks or whatever. However, it's good because it had the rest of the world's eye to look at Sweden or Norway or Finland and start getting more attention and more easy for bands to go outside Sweden and tour. So, anything like that is good. There have been tons of bands who's been around before... You know, the Seattle scene was better than the bands that came out because of the scene. They sold more records as well. So, it can only be good.
Rockpages.gr: Do you feel maybe annoyed that other bands from the Scandinavian scene that emerged after you are having more success?
Nicke Borg: No, you can't have these feelings because that would be stupid, you know. [pause] We all kinda pulling and helping each other out in a way... I mean the Hives took off really really big. The Hellacopters got a lot bigger than us in the beginning, even though we'd been playing a lot longer. In the end, it's all good. I wanna sell more records, I wanna play to more people but we're happy with what we're doing. We are just happy that it's a rock band that's getting big and not Ace of Base again...
Rockpages.gr: So, what do you think about this music style that is so popular in Scandinavia, but not in other places of the world?
Nicke Borg: Well, I don't know... That's a question that's really hard to answer... Why you have a lot of good bands coming out of Sweden? I have no idea. I think that it starts generating as a snowball effect. I mean, we looked at Hanoi Rocks when we were young and said to ourselves, basically, that if Hanoi Rocks can do it, we can do it. They were from Finland and it was like woah!, they got big in America and England. I think it just generates like that. There's always one leader and then several followers. I don't know if it's the leader though. Maybe it's something in the water...
Rockpages.gr: You mentioned Hanoi Rocks... You have released one single with Michael (Monroe) playing on it, there is the "Friends" release and you have also covered a song of them, "Taxi Driver". How did these happened? Is there any special bond with Hanoi Rocks?
Nicke Borg: You know, we've got to know Michael pretty long ago and it was like: First of all, we got to sing Hanoi Rocks and then we asked him, do you want to play a song with us and he's a bit funny with it, he's like [mumbles with enthusiasm] and then we got to be friends. And the same thing happened with all the other people that we worked with. They are friends basically. And that's a cool thing also about being in a band that travels not in just one country but all around the world and we meet cool people. Some of the friends are lifetime friends for us now that we've worked with them. Usually, the rock scene is kinda small, really. It's like a little family.
Rockpages.gr: I was reading on the internet that it was kind of hard for you to break into the UK and you had several problems. Why you think it's that?
Nicke Borg: Well, America and the UK are basically the countries that rock'n'roll was born in. And they are really spoilt and they're really hustle against music from other countries. You see, no German bands are big in England.
Rockpages.gr: The English hate the Germans...
Nicke Borg: Yeah, of course, you're right (laughs). I didn't say that, you said that. But, I mean, they usually wanna have their own bands from their own country and when they realize that there's no good rock'n'roll bands coming out of England for example, they have to look elsewhere. But everything is controlled by radio and money, so they are really afraid of losing money on a project that they are not sure that it will make it, so you have to work like ten times harder to prove that you are a good band and that you're playing real fucking rock'n'roll music. We can talk about this question for hours because I'm so fucking fed up with the record industry right now. But in America, it's just lawyers and you have to have a lot of cash and pay hundreds or thousands of crowns or whatever... dollars, to just have your song tested on the radio and in how many shows it's gonna be played. If you have enough money, you can broadcast a fucking shit, which is happening. There's a lot of shit on the radio. And if you're a band that doesn't have all that money, then you need to have people that are really burning for music and it's not easy to find these people any more, because either they gave up or got too old to work hard like that. Anyway, the day after tomorrow we'll go to UK to do a show with Buckcherry which is cool because, at least, they're a rock band and even though they were somehow counted out, they released another record and they managed to be on the radio again... That's good. It shows that they're working hard, you know.
Rockpages.gr: They took your place supporting Kiss... Is there going to be a fight?
Nicke Borg: No, no, we beat them in hockey. That's enough (loud laughs). They're nice guys... Anyway, about what you said, it's just business, you know. All the stuff that happens, it's the managers, the lawyers, the record companies, it's money that's behind. The band has nothing to do with that.
Rockpages.gr: That's everywhere actually.
Nicke Borg: Yeah, yeah. Anyway, I don't care about Kiss, actually.
Rockpages.gr: Well, they don't really exist any more...
Nicke Borg: Exactly (laughs).
Rockpages.gr: So, it was you who said that playing live is the only fuel this band needs to keep on being the counterweight in a fucked up business...
Nicke Borg: Yeah. (speaking conspiratorially) Did I say that?
Rockpages.gr: I don't know if you stole it from somebody else... (laughs)
Nicke Borg: Well, yeah. That's the ultimate price you get to stand in front of a crowd and see young people, old people, girls, boys, whatever, singing your songs and having a smile on their faces and getting excited from what I do on stage. There's no feeling in the world that beats that. Better than sex. Better than anything else.
Rockpages.gr: What's you mentality... well, I did that question to another band and they became upset. So, I'm gonna try it with you...
Nicke Borg: Okay (laughs).
Rockpages.gr: What's your mentality when you play a festival, where there are other bands and in front of you there are people that they didn't come to watch you, cause they came to watch the headliners, but, you know, you're playing in the afternoon. What do you do, how do you react?
Nicke Borg: It can only be a good thing. That's one of the good thing about playing in a festival. Cause you get the chance to play in front of people that would normally not go pay a ticket to see your show. But they are there anyway to see other bands and they may check your band out and hopefully, you win them over. And next time, they gonna see your show, when you're at their town or whatever. So, that's just a positive. Absolutely. I like to play festivals.
Rockpages.gr: That was actually the reaction we were expecting...
Nicke Borg: I can't understand why somebody would reply something else, you know...
Rockpages.gr: Maybe it's because I said "How do you react if you see someone who's bored"...
Nicke Borg: Yeah, yeah, I know exactly what you mean. It is kind of irritating, to see someone in the front row like this (pretends to be bored), and doesn't even look at you, but then you have to work even harder to make that person dig the band.
Rockpages.gr: Well, his answer, a little bit after he got upset, was "Nobody gets bored when we play" (laughs). Obviously, he was less upset by the people standing like this and more by the question reminding him of that. Because, he didn't answer the next questions as well.
Nicke Borg: Aha, yeah... Who was that?
Rockpages.gr: Saxon.
Nicke Borg: Oh yeah (laughs)... But they wear wigs, man. (extended laughs). Biff. Wasn't it Biff?
Rockpages.gr: Yeah, it was Biff...
Nicke Borg: Ha... Funny... (laughs). My guitar tech is actually working for Saxon as well, sometimes. There's good money and... (pause) They wear wigs, man. You have to tune the guitar and comb the wig (laughs).
Rockpages.gr: We won't tell them that though... Anyway, just when you made your breakthrough and released the "Diesel and Power" album, did you cease playing for... what... four years because Dregen had left?
Nicke Borg: No, we didn't stop playing at all. We were also playing, but Dregen played also with the Hellacopters. So, he was working two shifts, you know. Then came to a point, when it was impossible to do that, because you can't be at two places at the same time. So, I think in 1996, we didn't hardly do any gigs at all. We just tried to reload the batteries and tried to figure out what we were supposed to do. Our career was like... (makes a trembling mutter). We then started writing Total 13 and at the time it was released, Dregen was still in the Hellacopters. Eventually, he left them in 1998 or something. I don't think that if he would have left our band, we would be talking right now. And we would probably have split up the band. Because, it was never his intention to leave the band. He just wanted to play with another band and, you know, he's a smart guy. In a way, if you're really cynical about it, Backyard Babies was just like standing still like this and he saw an opportunity to take a short cut with the Hellacopters and pull Backyard Babies as well. Even though I'm the lead singer, his face is also in the newspapers and he's the kind of person that you need in a band, to share some of the talks.
Rockpages.gr: So, he never had the intention to leave...
Nicke Borg: No, maybe he thought about it sometimes but everybody was like... I think that if he had the intention, he would have left.
Rockpages.gr: Do you think that these gaps between albums helped the band?
Nicke Borg: It's nothing that we planned to do, it's nothing that we could have done differently. Sometimes it takes a long time to get an album out, it's so bureaucratic fucking... I don't know. I wish we could have had albums out more often, but since we tour all around the world... we release an album and we don't do like the Metallica, a world tour. It takes a long time for us to go everywhere and we want to go everywhere for every album. And then, we can't really write songs on the road. Because, first of all, I can think of a hundred other things to do which are more fun than writing a song, when you're on the road. And also it's more complicated. You don't sit down to write a song. You get ideas. So, when you get home, you need to have a little break if you're tired and then you have to start writing... It's a two-three year process.
Rockpages.gr: How important would you say it is that the band's lineup has been the same?
Nicke Borg: It's really important in a way, but also, it can be a little dangerous because you know each other so well and you know exactly the way you think and write and act. So, we take each other a little bit for granted, it's like an old marriage, you know. It's safe, but we don't have sex anymore (laughs). But, you know, we're a really strong tight unit now, after all these years and it would be really hard if someone left. Noone is irreplaceable, of course, but it will be hard start playing with another member, cause we have been so long together. And I hope that won't happen. I mean, if we made it for seventeen years, we can make it for another fifty years, at least (laughs). We're really good friends in the band. We don't really hang out too much together when we're at home, we all have families and other friends. It's always like, we're home for a week and I'm saying, let me call Dregen to see how he's doing.
Rockpages.gr: But you're all together for so long...
Nicke Borg: Yeah and you know, we all like what we're doing, we all have our part in the band. Everybody's different but we all are a little bit the same. Because if you have too much in common, I don't think you can be together. We are four different characters...
Rockpages.gr: I was going to ask you about your influences and I read somewhere that they are kinda different among the guys of the band.
Nicke Borg: Yeah, they're quite different. We have all come down to the love for hard rock music and we all grew up with Iron Maiden and Saxon... no (loud laughs).
Rockpages.gr: So, you never got bored at a Saxon concert...
Nicke Borg: I've never seen Saxon...
Rockpages.gr: Don't get bored! Be careful! (laughs)
Nicke Borg: ...anyway, and also the punk, the Ramones, Sex Pistols, all that stuff, were various influences for all of us. We all hang out and listened to fucking AC/DC and headbanged when we were kids...
Rockpages.gr: How did you feel when you opened for AC/DC?
Nicke Borg: That was probably the best... (pauses)... weirdest feeling I ever had. The fact that we actually are playing in front of AC/DC crowd and they like you, because AC/DC crowd is like... (makes an indifferent expression) "All we like is AC/DC". But it took us two or three songs for them to say... "yeah, cool band". And that was a very good feeling. And also, of course, knowing that some nights Angus is watching you gig and you talk to them and meet them every night. Seeing AC/DC every night. Their crew, all the people that work for AC/DC are hand-picked by the band themselves. They are the nicest crew I've ever met. Because usually, when they tolerate a big band, they can be assholes. It's not the band that's an asshole. It's the crew, because they want to be in a rock band too, so they take it out at the support band. But, no, no, they were just super nice.
Rockpages.gr: What about Motorhead and Alice Cooper?
Nicke Borg: We did a couple of shows with Alice Cooper and a couple of shows with Motorhead... Alice Cooper is supernice too, Lemmy is cool too.
Rockpages.gr: About "People Like... You", how do you explain that album after album, you get better. Is it that you gain more experience? Is it because you've been playing for longer, you've been writing more songs, you know more stuff, what is it?
Nicke Borg: First of all, thank you for saying that. Not everybody really agrees with that. I agree with you in a way, because I like the new album we did. I totally like our new album and... It was recorded and produced in a bit of a stressful situation, which means that I know it could have been even better, if we had the time and it wasn't so much other shit happening at the same time, but it's amazing it turned as good as it did. I think that first of all, you get a better player... We don't really sit home and practice, I hate that, but when after all these tours you've done, you get a little bit better. Probably you get a better songwriter, you get more experience when it comes down to writing lyrics, because you've seen more, you've experienced more, woken up with more girlfriends, so you get more inspiration, and you've drunk more beers and you know exactly how it is to be hangover in these days. Anyway, that's one reason why the albums are getting better. But also, I think, you have to try to challenge yourself to not repeat yourself. When we released Total 13, everybody was really excited about that album and a lot of people said that they would never expect Backyard Babies to release an album like that cause we were more like a glam band to them. So, they were "Wow!". So, these people wanted a Total 13 Part II, and then we released "Making Enemies is Good", which is a complete different album and they were like "What?". So, for us it's really important to always try to find not a much new way, but little new things to inspire yourself and not be locked in a corner and get bored. It would have been easy to do a Total 13 Part II. It would be the same stuff. We have a recipe there, but no. And then, from "Making Enemies is Good", "Stockholm Syndrome" is quite different as well. And now with "People...", probably the next one will be quite different from "People..". Also, the pick-up of producers... Sometimes it's important to have a good producer, sometimes it doesn't matter at all.
Rockpages.gr: Nicke Andersson was the producer in this album. You have said that he made you learn how to play like a band. What did you mean by that?
Nicke Borg: You know, he's a very good musician. He's a drummer, his guitar playing, his singing, his bass playing, he's fucking sick man. He's so talented in all the instruments. We tell him "Listen to something we play together" and he's like that: "Oh, stop, that's perfect, that's good". Now, wait a minute, we didn't mean to play it right. "Yes, yes, perfect". That's how to play. It shouldn't be perfect... He found that little thing that actually was groovy in the band. When you are a perfectionist and do it over and over again to get it perfect, then in the process you've lost the groove somewhere. It's too perfect, you know? Rock'n'roll music is a fucking dysfunctional music style. It shouldn't be perfect. So, that's what I meant with that. He's so good to drive out the best from each member. Bass player Johan (Blomqvist), he's never played better bass, you know. And me singing, there was a lot of times that I wasn't happy with the vocals, but he was like "No, we don't change anything. It's perfect. It's feeling". Ah, OK. So, I think that's the reason, yes.
Rockpages.gr: Are there any weird story that you wouldn't tell your children but you could share with your fans?
Nicke Borg: Well, as we started, one reason why we wanted to be in a band was that we wanted to experience all the cool stuff that you read about when you were a teenager. Motley Crue did that. Guns'n'Roses did that... Is it really like that? You want to see it for yourself. And yes, it's even worse. But I don't have any specific stories... It's just crazy every night. Sometimes, it's quite boring. When you're traveling, you know, you wait, wait wait all the time. But the best thing is to come to countries that you've never been to, new cities, meet cool people... Anyway, I think that also, sometimes it's the excitement of not knowing if it's really true and that's what excites people. That's why all the gossip magazines are so big. Is it real? I have to read all about it. And then the journal is trying to make it as juicy as possible...
Rockpages.gr: So, is it true?
Nicke Borg: No, it's worse (laughs). I'd probably say that I fell last night, when I really fell off the roof of a car. Or that's what I've been told. So, you can't really save it sometimes. They could even put you in jail. If I say a shrink what I really did some nights, he would lock me up. This guy is dangerous for society. Sometimes you live out of other people's dreams, you know. I read an interview of Rocco, the porn star, and he said "My job is the make people's dream, reality". I'm not the sick person, with what I do, I'm just doing other people's fantasies. So, you do this, but for the normal person, sitting on a boring job, if he reads the story and takes away some of his boredom, then, that's perfect. And I love what I do anyway, so it's cool.
Rockpages.gr: Vinyls, cd, mp3 or dvd? Which is your favourite format?
Nicke Borg: Oh... I have an I-pod, but I accidentaly erased it... I like cds because they are convenient to have. DJs love them and DJs with vinyls these days is just too messy. But, there's nothing like a good old vinyl and also cds get fucked up sometimes, vinyls get too but they never really break... You know, you can't go backwards all the time. You have to embrace technology. We just got digital TVs in Sweden, now there are no more antennas, and we are... what the fuck... I hate the internet, but I use it because, that's what you have to do today. It's gonna come to you anyway. I just hoped to find a good format to release music, not just by buying it on the net, because that is very boring, you know. I never downloaded a song in my life... I don't even know how to do it (laughs). I wanna touch vinyl, or if it's a cd, I wanna see in the booklet. I don't wanna click it and scroll down at the lyrics. I want paper. I never read papers on the internet. I wanna have the real magazine. That's maybe old-school stuff, but whatever.
Rockpages.gr: I think it depends on the kind of music you're interested in...
Nicke Borg: Yes, right. It's easier to download the new Madonna single, you don't have to see the cover - where she's old anyway - but maybe for Backyard Babies it's a lot cooler to have the actual booklet. That's why we spend a lot of effort to make cool artwork, because we grew up with that. I remember opening up "Shout at the Devil", gatefold, the picture and you're like "Fuck!". It's not like click, click, click... I can't see, you know. But you're right, it depends on the music. But, it's hard for us to talk about it, because we're all at the same age. Because for someone who grew up today, they don't know how it was before internet. They're so used to it, that we have to learn to use it. Maybe we prefer the real paper, but the children maybe don't think that way. That's why you have to try to be on both sides. There are people that want to have the real cd and people that they don't care but they love the music anyway.
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