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Re: Calculating for Wood Movement
Good article, however, I do have some questions.
From what 'starting time' are you calculating how much to deduct from your design width to allow for seasonal change? Are you assuming the middle of summer as your starting point? If so, and you calculate 5/16" of an inch to allow for expansion in the middle of winter, does that mean that constructing the piece half way between summer and winter you would only deduct 5/32" because your at a mid-point in the seasonal change? If you get your timing wrong will you end up with too much play or too little?
Will that depend on where you live? For instance, in many areas of North America the summer will be the driest, but in high humidity areas, the summer may be the wettest when it comes to humidity and therefore how much moisture the wood absorbs.
Will the design be affected by where it will end up? For instance, in a forced air heated house, winter humidity may be lower than during the summer when the furnace is shut down and the interior humidity is more akin to the exterior humidity.
Re: Should Woodworkers Say Goodbye to Ebony?
Kudos to Bob Taylor! Not only does he make exceptional guitars, he is taking an exceptionally responsible position with respect to the sustainable harvesting of ebony.
Yes, there are other woods that can and are used for luthurie, but ebony is particularly good for all it properties and appearance. Yes, it is a concern that one organization controls 75% of anything, however, it is doubtful that you could have organized say dozens of individual harvesters to adopt a single unified harvesting protocol that would have produced the same outcome. Any protocol for the marketing of all trees cut would have produced differential rates of remuneration based on the perceived quality and marketability of the product, and would in all likelihood still condemned the harvesters to a continuing subsistence existence. Here is a case where a virtual monopoly was able to make a decision of conscience that would have been nigh on impossible in a rambling free and open market.
Not all monopolies are to be feared, or at least some are to be tolerated. The vast majority of us are served by monopolies in the supply of our electricity, and they are kept in check by a combination of regulation and the fact that other energy sources moderate the price that can be charged. In many cases, efficiency demands a monopoly. We wouldn't want multiple power companies each having the own set of distribution cables cluttering the landscape or being buried under our roads. The cost of multiple distribution systems would drive up the costs dramatically and so we reasonably tolerate the existence of their monopoly, or get off the grid.
The virtual monopoly for ebony will be kept in check by virtue of the fact that there are other woods that can be used as a substitute for ebony so the price to be paid for the lumber can only go as high as there are people willing to pay it. And let's face it, the real price of a Taylor guitar, or a Larivee or Martin is not determined simply by the cost of the wood that goes into it, or the manufactured components of truss rods, tuners, strings, pick guards, inlay, banding, strap buttons, finish, etc. the real value is the labour, even in a factory situation. Building quality musical instruments, fine furniture or other wooden items of value and quality are among the most labour intensive activities in human existence, and always will be. But we love what we do and what we are capable of producing, from what was once a tree, and that's why we subscribe to Fine Woodworking in the first place. We revel in what we do and we want to be able to do it better!
Bob's video didn't talk about reforesting, so we don't know what is happening in that regard. His video suggests he is licensed to produce lumber from trees grown on public and/or private lands. There is no suggestion he owns the land on which the trees are grown and therefore, it is unlikely his company is responsible for reforestation. Having said that, it would certainly be in his interest to promote and support reforestation practices. And with the new policy that all trees cut now have value, it is in the interests of the Cameroon government to work with private land holders, and for their own lands, to initiate a reforestation program if one does not exist, or tune up whatever program does exist, as the value of their standing forests, and therefore the positive long term impact on employment and their foreign exchange, just went up ten fold as a result of one man's decision.
With the decision that all trees cut will be sold, it may well be that other countries might find it in their interest to plant ebony in their forests for future harvest. I doubt that ebony plantations make sense, as most hardwoods are dependent on the diversity of other species for the health of the forest, but I may be wrong. Regardless, with the instant marketability of coloured ebony as a result of Bob's decision, as the acceptance of the wood sets in, my bet is that other suppliers, might well come to the fore as market acceptance creates a demand for wood not previously thought marketable. Additionally, market acceptance of 'colour' in fret boards and other applications will result in the expansion of other species put into service, likely garnering higher returns than was previously the case, which will act as further moderation on ebony monopoly.
So, for those who want to continue to use ebony, this is as good and outcome as one could hope for, given the historical devastation of forests elsewhere. For those who want to use other woods and either celebrate whatever natural look those other woods have and/or dye the wood to mimic ebony, good on you as well. The important thing is that good stewardship is being promoted and practiced and we woodworkers, whether as luthiers or otherwise, have a responsibility to support those enlightened practices.
On any sense of overall balance Bob Taylor's decision is a good one!
So let me end with how I started, kudos to Bob Taylor. You sure make fine guitars!
Jef Keighley,
Halfmoon Bay, B.C.
Re: Caption Contest Winner!
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"Of course, if you find you're running out of time during a glue-up and and forgot to get your clamps ready in advance, you can always resort to one of my favorite shop tricks, I call it 'the elbow clamp'. Assume a standing pose like The Thinker, place your elbow on the work piece, bear down on your elbow, and hold that position for 30 minutes. You may find it useful to use your fingers to hold your chin up for the duration of the clamping time, or scratch your nose, adjust your glasses, the choices are endless."
Re: CPSC Drafting New Tablesaw Regulations
Fine Woodworking friends:
Take two valium and call me in the morning. When the 'market' does not respond on safety issues, the government must! Detroit didn't put all the safety features we find in today's automobiles because the 'market' delivered the goods, so government had to act in the absence of market action. The same goes for tools. I for one welcome safer tools. Yes I am careful. Yes I take pride in knowing how to use my tools safely. Yes I still have all my fingers and thumbs. But I know that every time I'm in my shop, I could have an accident and do myself some serious lifelong harm. So if safer saws add somewhat to the cost of tools, so be it. With regulation, manufacturers will be compelled to research 'better mousetraps', and if the history of the auto sector is any guide, they will do it and do it well and we'll all be the better for it.
By the way, that's be $100 for the medical advice.
Jef Keighley,
Halfmoon Bay, B.C.
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Re: Tablesaw Safety Goes Under the Microscope--Again
Come on folks! Get with it! FW's bias is hanging out by the virtue of the headline of the story "Table saw safety goes under the microscope -- again"! One can almost hear the sigh of frustration before you get to the text of the article.
I have a table saw without saw stop and I still have all my digits, because I am careful and know how to use the tool...and because I'm lucky! But had I lost a finger, would that make by inept or stupid? No, but it place me in the ranks of the unluckuy. And the 10 homeshop woodworkers a day who lost fingers aren't inept or stupid either, they had an accident, plain and simple, nothing more.
The saw stop technology is the first of what will be a new generation of safety devices has caught a lot of attention, and so it should. Everyone agrees that adding that or similarly functioning devices will cost more money. So what? Look at the carnage it will prevent! It would cost a lot less to build cars without seat belts, air bags, impact absorbing bumpers, safety glass, horns, brake lights, and a host of other safety features. So why do we all expect and demand those safety devices on automobiles? Because they save lives!
Why did it take government regulations to force those changes on the auto industry? Because they added to corporate costs and cut into profits. It is a rare corporation who voluntarily adds to their costs at the expense of their bottom line simply to make a device safer. Individual manufactures want to be out of sync with other companies who don't offer such features because they fear the resultant higher profits of their competitors will attract more investment capital than they can attract. But with government regulation, the problem is solved. If every car manufacturer has to build cars with the required safety features, no manufacturer has an advantage or disadvantage in the commercial market place. It is then up to the manufacturer to design to achieve the regulated standard, and in the process, competing firms come up with better mousetraps at relatively lower prices and the overall quality of the product improves.
The same would happen if all saw manufacturers were mandated to employ injury preventing technology. As soon as it is a requirement to employ such technology, a market is created and inventive minds will devise more and better ways to achieve the mandated standard. Saw stop may gain an initial edge, but you can be sure that it won't be long before other equally good or better options emerge, and in the process, a lot of jobs will be created designing and building the new technology and we will all be better off for it.
The manufacturers' concern that use of the technology would imply some measure of liability would go out the window with government regulation. That is because their iron clad defense in a claim against them as to why a particular manufacturer employed saw stop or similarly purposed technology becomes simple, 'because we were required to do so by law'!
And let's give our heads a shake. Government regulation is not the thin edge of the wedge to socialism, it is in fact one of the most important functions of government in a democratic society. We don't regulate those things that are socially desirable and morally laudable. We don't have laws that say parents must love their children, because, with rare exception, we all do! We don't have laws that people must care for their pets, because, with rare exception, we all do! We create regulations in cases where it become evident that people or corporations do things that do not demonstrate responsibility to protect the public interest. So we have laws that say you cannot dump poisons into the environment, because in the past, without those laws, we found that some failed in their responsibilities. We have laws that say you cannot rob your neighbors house because we found that some failed in their responsibilities. Where people and corporations consistently act in a responsible manner, we need no regulations. Where that is not the case, we do!
Regulation, simply put, is the rational, collective response to the lack of individual and/or corporate responsibility. It is not socialism. It is not Big Brother. It is not too big government. It is not something to set one's hair on fire over. It is a necessary function of responsible government.
Jef Keighley
Halfmoon Bay, BC.,
Re: Updated: Stanley Sells Delta Tools to Taiwanese Company
I completely agree that it is sad that yet another quality tool maker appears to be sliding farther down the slippery slope to mediocrity, but the the sale of Delta is simply a continuation of a process that's been going on for a very long time. Stanley Black & Decker is not in the business of making tools. They are in the business of making money! They just happen to make tools in order to make money, just as GM, or MacDonalds or Starbucks, or Chase Manhattan is first and foremost in the business of making money, and chooses to make cars, hamburgers, coffee or lend money to accomplish that goal. That's why Stanley Black & Decker sold Delta, plain and simple! The business of big business is to make money, as much as possible, as fast as possible. Quality and customer relations are important only to the extent that a company needs to maintain a client base sufficient to accomplish the primary goal...to make money! There are still lots of small and medium sized family owned businesses that started with and maintain the concept of delivering quality at a fair price, but once those companies are bought out and become absorbed into a larger corporate empire, run by 'professional managers', the scale of whose financial remuneration is inversely proportional to the duration of their focus and vision, quality becomes at best a secondary consideration. This is not a phenomenon driven by employees or unions they may choose to represent them. This is a phenomenon driven by the top echelons of the respective business empires made easier by the policies of the political minions their money buys them.
With so many good jobs exported from North America over the last several decades, at the hands of these same corporate empires, for the same reason, ie. to make more money, there has been a serious shrinkage in the average disposable income of Canadians and Americans relative to our cost of living. This fuels the drive to sell cheaper, lower quality goods, because our collective purchasing power to buy better quality tools is shrinking.
Having said that, it is still sad to see Delta slide further down the slippery slope.
Jef Keighley
Halfmoon Bay, B.C., Canada
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Re: Plywood for Fine Furniture
I use furniture grade plywood quite extensively. Always for pieces that are unseen, usually for panels and the like, with solid wood reserved for edges and frames where joinery is either necessary or a feature of the design. I may or may not use it for tops, depending on the design and appication. I accept the fact that on the basis of board foot pricing good quality plywood, carefully chosen, is no cheaper than solid wood, but whether I am doing a piece for the love of it or for a price, I value my time, and not at some miserable minimum wage rate! There is no way solid wood can compete with plywood when supply price and labour time are taken into consideration for the uses I put it to.
While I agree that were I to be making an heirloom piece or a commissioned piece where price and time was of little concern, then for sure I'd go with solid wood all the way, but in my neck of the woods, if I confined my building to producing for whom cost was not an issue, I wouldn't be spending much time in my shop. The reality is that the vast majority of people who want a custom piece of furniture or cabinetry still have a necessary eye pinned on price, and so plywood is usually a part of the solution to produce a beautiful piece at a reasonable price.
Many have talked about breaking plywood down with a circular saw before using the table saw, and I do this extensively. I have a self made cutting guide, designed like a flat truss to avoid warpage or deflection, which I clamp to the plywood sheet to guide my saw with a fine toothed, thin kerf blade. If the particular piece is to be lodged in a dado, that is my final cut, whether ripped or cross-cut (with the use of tape of course). It it needs refinement, I use the table saw with my glue line blade and that is the final cut before actually gluing.
So...that's my two cents worth.
Re: Having Trouble Finishing? Here's a Great Product
I too agree with the wipe on adherents! Its a great product and because you can wipe on multiple coats in a day, there is no concern about bonding. While the surface feels 'dry' to the human hand within an hour or so, chemically it is still actively curing so the additional coats fully bond with the previous coat. Once all your coats are done, let your piece sit for several days before being pressed into service so the multiple layers have time to fully cure and harden. I tend to dislike a really glossy finish, so I often wet sand the final coat with 1500 wet- dry, available from auto body supply sources, and then sometimes rub it down with rottenstone. The surface is amazingly beautiful and sensual to the touch!
Re: Is it OK to sell furniture based on FWW articles?
Most of the posts above have already captured what I my sentiments, ie. an inspiration is one thing, a duplicate or copy is another, but frankly, both have their place. When someone commissions you to create a copy of a piece, historical or otherwise, they want what they want, ie. a copy, not a version of copy, and almost always a single copy, so go for it, but do fully credit the original designer/builder. But the vast majority of what us woodbutchers produce are in fact inspirations from and not copies of. If it you have produced a truly unique design, wonderful, take full credit! But even then let's face it, there are really only so many ways to resist gravity and hold a human bum 17" or so inches, or a plate 30" or so off the floor? Other and scale and materials, how much different are the elevated stone slabs of Stonehenge from a table? So unless you are running a sizeable production shop and copying someone else's work without consent or credit, I say go for it, but once again, do credit your inspirations when they deserve it. Your customer will appreciate your willingness to learn from and be inspired by others.
But I also want to make a point about even using the word 'profit' as it applies to what most of us do. A 'profit' is what is left over after all the costs of production and marketing are covered: all the wood, the finish, the heat, light and power, the tools and all the labour, including the cost of gathering the materials, time spent designing, building, finishing and packaging as well as delivering the finished product to the customer and the time spent doing the books and banking. You only have a 'profit' if you still have money left over all of that, and I'm willing to bet darn few of us find ourselves in that boat too often. That really only comes about by running a production shop of some reasonable scale with paid employees producing copies, inspirations or original designs for a sizeable market. For the vast majority of us, the best you can expect is to pay yourself wages, and frankly, that's enough, because being able to earn a living doing what you love doing and would do whether or not you got paid, is not too bad a way to live! All most of us are really doing while producing a piece for sale, is being compensated for the time that we commit to the total, some better than others, but few can honestly claim to have made 'a profit'.
Jef Keighley
Halfmoon Bay, B.C.
Re: Broken power tool: Junk it or fix it?
Like so many before me...it depends. It depends on the price of the new tool, and whether the features available on the new tool make it worthwhile despite a higher price. It depends on whether it is a difficult to replace tool, ie. not made any more, hard to find, has features no longer available. It depends on the availability of parts, either new or finding another used one to cannabalize. Jef


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I'm looking for suggestions for a suitable groundcover for around a small tree in the middle of the hell strip in front of my house. It will be in full sun and will have to tolerate moderate foot traffic. Since it will be trapped between the street and the sidewalk, spreading/invasiveness would actually be fine. Scent would be a plus. Ajuga is what immediately comes to mind, but others must have other ideas. Creeping thyme? Something else? Thanks. |
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I'm trying a combination of thymes, creeping thyme, mother of thyme, lemon thyme and wooly thyme in between patio stones. If that doesn't suit you, there's Blue star creeper, brass buttons, creeping jenny, creeping speedwell, and for even lighter foot traffic -- there's alpine lady's mantle, carpet bugleweed, irish or scottish moss, snow in summer. Ianna |
I have a hill in my backyard where unfortunately the only decent sun for a veggie patch is. I found mowing to be a pain. If you don't mind dealing with a mint, pennyroyal has been my groundcover of choice along the veggie bed. It hasn't required mowing yet (planted last spring) AND I don't get eaten alive by mosquitos when I'm sitting in it messing with the garden =) I used Mentha Pulegium (European pennroyal) because it is a perennial and stays lower to the ground than the American pennyroyal. Also, the European tolerates partial shade and moist soil (a plus in my situation). I've found it to be relatively easy to keep in line as far as mints go. My herb book shows it to be hardy to zone 5. |
I just thought of something that will work in the shade.. periwinkle |
- Posted by Barbara43206 z5 OH (My Page) on Wed, Jan 21, 04 at 15:12
I've already planted creeping juniper in one of the other sections of hell strip. It's looking like a good decision, but I'd like to try something else in the other section. Any other ideas for what'd work particularly well in full sun and dry soil? I don't mind watering, but want to plant something that'll be reasonably happy with the rather harsh environment. Thanks again! |
- Posted by ScottReil_GD z5 CT (My Page) on Sat, Jan 24, 04 at 14:11
Foot traffic is a toughy. Certain mosses seem to thrive under foot traffic(Bryum argenteum springs to mind; my old garden sensei used to call it sidewalk moss, as you often see it there) Set some pavers in sand and keep it reasonably wet and you'll have mosses in a year or so. If moss seems to slow (or not showy enough) there are several programs out that peddle the right plant for your situation; I offer one below... |
Here is a link that might be useful: Jeepers Creepers
- Posted by SunburyGirl z5 OH (My Page) on Thu, Feb 5, 04 at 18:27
You might consider English or Roman Chamomile (Chamaemelum nobile)(Anthemis nobilis). It's hardy in our area, vigorous and can take some foot traffic. In fact it is sometimes used in lawns in lieu of grass. It has a lacy look, gets little daisy like flowers and has a very fresh green smell when crushed and like most herbs, likes sun and heat. Once it gets established it doesn't seem to require too much water. |
Here is a link that might be useful: Chamomile
The very low creeping thymes can take moderate foot traffic. High Country Gardens sell several for thyme lawns that would work. Since you are planting what you termed a hell strip, you need something that really tolerates hot and dry, and the thymes are it. |
Vinca is an invasive, as is English Ivy (hedera) both of which are used extensively as ground covers. An invasive plant can quickly overwhelm and displace existing native plants by reducing the availability of light, water, nutrients and space. They have few, if any,natural controls to keep them in check. Ecologists now rank invasions by exotic plants, animals, and pathogens second only to habitat loss as a major threat to local biodiversity. For more info go to the link below and click on "Plants for a Livable Delaware', a booklet by the U of DE Plant and Soil Science Dept. Information applies to the specific plant, even if it grows in places other than DE. Judy, DE Master Gardener |
Here is a link that might be useful: Home & Landscape Horticulture- De Coop Ext.
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Win a Lil' XT from WoW Insider {WoW}
Nov 23rd 2010 3:06PM More than one way to get a little workout.
(watch the actuall boss for a few min and tell me it doesnt look like he is working out!)
Addon Spotlight: IceHUD {WoW}
May 20th 2010 2:31PM Dont forget the best part (if you are looking for a minimalist UI)! IceHUD has settings for the transparancy that can depend on combat, whether you have a target or not, whether you are at full health/mana or not, etc. So, in effect, you can set IceHUD to completely vanish when it isnt needed, then re-appear when you need it. I really really like it for that myself :)
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Mar 16th 2010 8:46PM Also, if you are looking for good disapearing UI elements, consider using a HUD (like icehud) for your player / target/ target of target / focus frames, they give as much info, are MORE visable than the default, and can be completely hidden when you dont need them (like, no target, no combat)


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Does anyone here grow Heavenly Snow White (Gossard 2012)? It is described on the Heavenly Gardens website as a taller, improved version of Heavenly Angel Ice. I am looking for a good, taller near-white and was curious to know how this cultivar has been settling in/performing for all of you. Thanks, |
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- Posted by edward_kimball Zone 5b (My Page) on Tue, Oct 8, 13 at 17:55
I got it last year but unfortunately I have not seen it bloom yet. Edward |
Ispahan: Not discounting HAI at all--love that one, and I don't have Heavenly Snow White--but consider these 2 Gossards: Heavenly White Lightning and Tahoe Snow Blizzard. The TSB is very tall and spidery and HWL has especially nice blooms with great substance and flower duration even here in hot, humid VA. Although of the 3, HAI, HWL and TSB, the HWL does tend to go dormant in our summer droughts, whereas neither of the other 2 do. Hope that helps. |
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My pool pump spec for 230v is 8.7 amp.
My conduit run length is expected to be 105'. I have an underwater light. I woul like to have a convenence receptable. 1. Do I run #10 solid THWN from a juntion box by the panel for the pool pump (actually to the 220v pool timer)? 2. For my underwater light I heard I must run this from the panel (not the junction box) all the way to the light switch. I heard I can use THWN to for this and place this wire in the same conduit as the pool pump - true or not? 3. For the underwater light should I use the same size THWN as in the pool pump or can I use a smaller wire? 4. I plan on replacing my double 15 amp circuit breaker for my pool pump with GFI breakers - 20 amp - is this ok 5. I plan on replacing my breaker for my pool light with a 15 amp GFI breaker. I heard if I want to place the electric in the same conduit then both must use GFI breakers. If not true place post your recommendation. 6. For my solar power control I plan to take electric from an already run UFB cable for my landscape lights. I plan to put in a GFCI receptable. 7. The pool timer, the receptable for the pool pump, the underwater light switch, and the receptable into which the solar control wil be plugged into will all be on the same 4 by 4 pressure treated post. Any issue with this? 8. How do I bond my pool ladder in with the pump. My pool was built years ago before pool ladders were bonded. 9. Does my diving board need to be bonder too. What are rules regarding diving board bonding. |
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I would call an electrician. Scott |
1. An electrician who bid on the job said he would run THWN wire for the pool pump all the way to the panel. I thought the THWN pool pump circuit had to run to a junction box and from there equivalent romex wire is to be used for connecting to the circuit control panel. Question: Can I have opinions on this. Can the THWN pool pump circuit be run directly to the panel? Is this ok to do or an issue? 2. The electrician also said the underwater light circuit will be a separate THWN circuit run in the same conduit as the pool pump circuit and all the way to the control panel, not to a junction box. Question: Can I have opinions on this. I thought I read that this is ok to do for the underwater light circuit. thank you - I am a homeowner who is doing this research to ensure the repair to my pool electric which stopped working two weeks ago is performed correctly and to code - trying to avoid issues (Town of Brookhaven, Long Island, NY). thank you - I am a homeowner who is doing this research to ensure the repair to my pool electric which stopped working two weeks ago is performed correctly and to code - trying to avoid issues (Town of Brookhaven, Long Island, NY). |
Romex is not outdoor rated. Solid wire used with alternating current require thicker wire. Pumps, 1HP and above should get a carflex conduit from a nearby sub panel or junction box, with #12 or #14 stranded insulated copper conductors. Some allow #12 solid wire. 120V Typically gets Black, White and Green. 240V typically gets Black, Red, and Green. Pumps 3/4HP and smaller can use #14 wire. Light niches MUST have a deck box for each fixture, not less than 12" above the water line. Fixtures usually have a maximum cord length of 100'. Some LED fixtures have longer cords available. Some inspectors want it higher, as much as 18". This helps to prevent water from rising up to the electrical connections between the fixture and line power. This circuit must be protected with a GFCI. A conduit will run from the niche to the deck box and must be water tight. Some places require brass, some allow plastic. The light's cord runs from the niche to the center of the deck box. The line power comes from the side. A daisy chain conduit may be run to another deck box for a second fixture. Some allow a 3rd but this depends on the load the fixtures are placing on the line. Normally, #14 stranded is used. #10 wire will not fit on a pump's connectors. Will you be using a sub panel? Talk to the local inspector. Ask him what his requirements are. They will trump any codes written. Scott |
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1 My lytell children these thynges write I vnto you that ye synne not: yf eny man synne yet we have an advocate with ye father Iesus Christ which is righteous: | 1 My dear children, I write this to you so that you will not sin. But if anybody does sin, we have one who speaks to the Father in our defense--Jesus Christ, the Righteous One. |
2 and he it is that obteyneth grace for oure synnes: not for oure synnes only: but also for the synnes of all the worlde. | 2 He is the atoning sacrifice for our sins, and not only for ours but also for the sins of the whole world. |
3 And herby we are sure that we knowe him yf we kepe his comaundementes. | 3 We know that we have come to know him if we obey his commands. |
4 He that sayth I knowe him and kepeth not his commaundementes is a lyar and the veritie is not in him. | 4 The man who says, "I know him," but does not do what he commands is a liar, and the truth is not in him. |
5 Whosoever kepeth his (worde) in him is the love of god parfect in dede. And therby knowe we that we are in him. | 5 But if anyone obeys his word, God's love is truly made complete in him. This is how we know we are in him: |
6 He that sayth he bydeth in him ought to walke even as he walked. | 6 Whoever claims to live in him must walk as Jesus did. |
7 Brethren I write no newe comaundement vnto you: but that olde comaundemet which ye hearde from the begynnynge. | 7 Dear friends, I am not writing you a new command but an old one, which you have had since the beginning. This old command is the message you have heard. |
8 The olde comaundement is the worde which ye hearde from the begynnynge. Agayne a newe comaundement I write vnto you a thynge that is true in him and also in you: for the darknes is past and the true lyght now shyneth. | 8 Yet I am writing you a new command; its truth is seen in him and you, because the darkness is passing and the true light is already shining. |
9 He that sayth how that he is in the light and yet hateth his brother is in darknes even vntyll this tyme. | 9 Anyone who claims to be in the light but hates his brother is still in the darkness. |
10 He that loveth his brother abydeth in the light and ther is none occasion of evyll in him. | 10 Whoever loves his brother lives in the light, and there is nothing in him to make him stumble. |
11 He that hateth his brother is in darknes and walketh in darknes: and cannot tell whither he goeth because that darknes hath blynded his eyes. | 11 But whoever hates his brother is in the darkness and walks around in the darkness; he does not know where he is going, because the darkness has blinded him. |
12 Babes I write vnto you how that youre synnes are forgeven you for his names sake. | 12 I write to you, dear children, because your sins have been forgiven on account of his name. |
13 I wryte vnto you fathers how that ye have knowen him that was from the begynnynge. I wryte vnto you yonge men how that ye have overcome the wicked. I wryte vnto you lytell children how that ye have knowne the father. | 13 I write to you, fathers, because you have known him who is from the beginning. I write to you, young men, because you have overcome the evil one. I write to you, dear children, because you have known the Father. |
14 I wryte vnto you fathers how that ye have knowe him that was fro the begynnynge. I wryte vnto you youge men how that ye are stronge: and the worde of God abydeth in you and ye have overcome that wicked. | 14 I write to you, fathers, because you have known him who is from the beginning. I write to you, young men, because you are strong, and the word of God lives in you, and you have overcome the evil one. |
15 Se that ye love not the worlde nether the thynges that are in the worlde. Yf eny man love the worlde the love of the father is not in him. | 15 Do not love the world or anything in the world. If anyone loves the world, the love of the Father is not in him. |
16 For all that is in ye worlde (as the lust of the flesshe the lust of the eyes and ye pryde of gooddes) is not of the father: but of ye worlde | 16 For everything in the world--the cravings of sinful man, the lust of his eyes and the boasting of what he has and does--comes not from the Father but from the world. |
17 And the worlde vannyssheth awaye and the lust therof: but he that fulfilleth the will of god abydeth ever. | 17 The world and its desires pass away, but the man who does the will of God lives forever. |
18 Lytell children it is the last tyme and as ye have herde how that Antichrist shall come: even now are there many Antichristes come allredy. Wherby we knowe that it is the last tyme. | 18 Dear children, this is the last hour; and as you have heard that the antichrist is coming, even now many antichrists have come. This is how we know it is the last hour. |
19 They went oute from vs but they were not of vs. For yf they had bene of vs they wolde no dout have continued with vs. But that fortuned that yt myght appere that they were not of vs. | 19 They went out from us, but they did not really belong to us. For if they had belonged to us, they would have remained with us; but their going showed that none of them belonged to us. |
20 And ye have an oyntment of ye holy gost and ye knowe all thynges. | 20 But you have an anointing from the Holy One, and all of you know the truth. |
21 I wrote not vnto you as though ye knewe not the trueth: but as though ye knewe it and knowe also that no lye commeth of trueth. | 21 I do not write to you because you do not know the truth, but because you do know it and because no lie comes from the truth. |
22 Who is a lyar: but he that denyeth that Iesus is Christ? The same is the Antichrist that denyeth the father and the sonne. | 22 Who is the liar? It is the man who denies that Jesus is the Christ. Such a man is the antichrist--he denies the Father and the Son. |
23 Whosoever denyeth the sonne the same hath not the father. | 23 No one who denies the Son has the Father; whoever acknowledges the Son has the Father also. |
24 Let therfore abyde in you that same which ye hearde from the begynnynge. Yf that which ye hearde from ye begynnynge shall remayne in you ye also shall continewe in the sonne and in the father | 24 See that what you have heard from the beginning remains in you. If it does, you also will remain in the Son and in the Father. |
25 And this is the promes yt he hath promysed vs even eternall lyfe. | 25 And this is what he promised us--even eternal life. |
26 This have I writte vnto you concernynge the yt disceave you. | 26 I am writing these things to you about those who are trying to lead you astray. |
27 And ye anoyntynge which ye have receaved of him dwelleth in you. And ye nede not that eny man teache you: but as ye annoyntynge teaheth you all thynges and is true and is no lye: and as it taught you even so byde therin. | 27 As for you, the anointing you received from him remains in you, and you do not need anyone to teach you. But as his anointing teaches you about all things and as that anointing is real, not counterfeit--just as it has taught you, remain in him. |
28 And nowe babes abyde in him that when he shall appere we maye be bolde and not be made a shamed of him at his commynge. | 28 And now, dear children, continue in him, so that when he appears we may be confident and unashamed before him at his coming. |
29 Yf ye knowe that he is righteous knowe also that he which foloweth rightewesnes is borne of him. | 29 If you know that he is righteous, you know that everyone who does what is right has been born of him. |
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[737] Increased Expression of Intratumoral C-Reactive Protein Predicts Mortality in Patients with Localized Clear Cell Renal Cell Carcinoma.
Sarfraz Ali, Viraj A Master, Ammara Abbasi, Omer Kucuk, Andrew N Young, Kenneth Ogan, John G Pattaras, Peter T Nieh, Fray F Marshall, Adeboye O Osunkoya. Emory University School of Medicine, Atlanta, GA
Background: C-reactive protein (CRP) is an acute phase reactant typically produced in the liver following stimulation by interleukin-6. Serum CRP has recently been shown in some studies, to be a potential predictor of outcome in patients with localized and metastatic renal cell carcinoma (RCC). However, the prognostic significance of intratumoral CRP expression with emphasis on clinical outcome in patients with RCC remains unknown.
Design: 102 patients with fully resected, clinically localized (pT1-T3N0M0) clear cell RCC were followed postoperatively. Intratumoral CRP expression was assessed in radical nephrectomy specimens using immunohistochemical analysis. Patients were categorized by intratumoral CRP expression as follows: negative, 0; weak, 1+, moderate, 2+; strong, 3+. Univariate, Kaplan-Meier, and multivariate Cox regression analyses examined overall survival (OS) across patient and disease characteristics. Variables examined in multivariate Cox regression analysis included: pT-Stage and Fuhrman nuclear grade; tumor size; UCLA Integrated Staging System (UISS); Mayo Clinic stage, size, grade, and necrosis (SSIGN) score; Kattan normogram; preoperative serum CRP, and intratumoral CRP expression.
Results: Follow-up ranged from 19 to 42 months, with a mean (SD) of 29.8 (6.0) months. During this follow-up, 19/102 patients (19%) died of disease. Of all tumors, 30%, 43%, and 27% were graded as 0, 1-2+, and 3+ for intratumoral CRP expression, respectively. Of these patients, 7%, 14%, and 41% died of disease, respectively. Mean (SD) survival for these groups was 24.5 (3.5), 16.7 (2.7), and 7.5 (1.2) months, respectively (p=0.001). After controlling for variables significant in univariate analysis, patients with staining intensity of 1+ to 2+ and 3+ experienced a 3.5-fold (HR: 3.492, 95% CI: 0.413-29.505, p=0.251) and 22-fold (HR: 22.661, 95% CI: 2.171-246.558, p=0.009) increased risk of mortality, respectively, compared to patients with intratumoral CRP expression of 0.
Conclusions: To our knowledge, this is the first study to correlate intratumoral CRP expression with clinical outcome data. Increased expression of intratumoral CRP represents a significant prognostic measure of mortality in patients with localized clear cell RCC.
Category: Genitourinary (including renal tumors)
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A status update on the operations in the Baghdad Belts and beyond
Operation Phantom Thunder, the name of the overarching operation to secure the Baghdad Belts, is now in its fifth day. As noted yesterday, Phantom Thunder is a corps-level operation, with multiple U.S. and Iraqi divisions engaged on multiple fronts. Iraqi Security Forces and Multinational Forces Iraq are engaged in intense fights in four main theaters: Baghdad proper, and the belts regions consisting of Diyala and southern Salahadin provinces to the north, northern Babil province to the south, and eastern Anbar province to the west of Baghdad. The fighting has been the most intense in the city of Baqubah the provincial capital of Diyala.
The concurrent operations in each theater have been named in most cases. Operation Arrowhead Ripper, managed by Multinational Division North is underway in Baqubah nd greater Diyala province. Multinational Division Central is running two operations: Operation Marne Torch southwest of Baghdad and Operation Commando Eagle to the southeast. The current operation in eastern Anbar, managed by Multinational Forces West has not yet been named. Operation Fardh al-Qanoon (otherwise known as the Baghdad Security Plan), which officially kicked off in mid-February, is managed by Multinational Division Baghdad and the Iraqi Baghdad Operational Command.
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The large portion of the media attention has focused on the battle in Baqubah as this is where the brunt of the heavy fighting is occurring. Baqubah s the provincial capital of Diyala as well as al Qaeda's proclaimed capital of its rump Islamic State of Iraq. Hundreds, and upwards of 1,000 al Qaeda fighters are believed to be holed up in the city in prepared fighting positions. The city has been mined with IEDs and booby-trapped homes, and seeded with snipers.
Michael Gordon reported U.S. troops moving into western Baqubah where they found well-prepared medical aid stations and field hospitals. "The hospital, uncovered by troops from the Fifth Battalion, 20th Infantry, was equipped with oxygen tanks, defibrillators, generators and surgical equipment, as well as pieces of insurgent propaganda," noted Mr. Gordon. Baqubah nd greater Diyala province is al Qaeda country.
"At least 41 insurgents have been killed, five weapons caches have been discovered, 25 improvised explosive devices have been destroyed and five booby-trapped houses have been discovered and destroyed," Multinational Forces Iraq reported last evening.
The 3rd Stryker Brigade Combat Team of the 2nd Infantry Division (3/2) appears to be shouldering the brunt of the combat. The soldiers from the 3/2 "killed 24-36 enemy fighters and detained nine," according to Mike Gilbert of the News Tribune. "They found and destroyed 16 other roadside bombs, four houses that had been rigged to explode, and two car bombs. They found two safe houses, destroyed what he described as a mobile weapons cache, and captured two other weapons caches, including 'a significant IED cache.'"
Both Michael Gordon and Michael Yon, who are embedded in Baqubah reported U.S. and Iraqi troops are receiving valuable intelligence from the residents of Baqubah "A positive indicator on the 19th and the 20th is that most local people apparently are happy that al Qaeda is being trapped and killed," Michael Yon wrote. "Civilians are pointing out IEDs and enemy fighters, so that's not working so well for al Qaeda."
While the reporting from the regions outside Baqubah s sparse, there are indications engagements are also ongoing in the Diyala River valley.
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Multinational Division Central, the newly created command to deal with the southern Baghdad Belts, has two concurrent major operations ongoing in its area of operations. Marne Torch is focusing on the city and surrounding regions of Arab Jabour, southeast of Baghdad. Commando Eagle is focusing on the Mahmudiyah region southwest of Baghdad.
"To date, Marne Torch and Iraqi army units have detained more than five dozen suspected extremists and destroyed more than 17 boats on the Tigris River that are responsible for transporting accelerants into Baghdad," Multinational Forces Iraq reported in a press release. "U.S. forces killed five insurgents, discovered and destroyed 12 improvised explosive devices, and detained 13 wanted individuals."
Operation Commando Eagle began on June 21, and was described as a "mix of helicopter-borne air assaults and Humvee-mounted movements, included Soldiers from several battalions of the 2nd Brigade Combat Team, 10th Mountain Division (Light Infantry) out of Fort Drum, N.Y., and the 4th Brigade, 6th Iraqi Army Division."
The operation has yielded 29 suspected insurgents and numerous weapons caches, including one containing "75 CDs of propaganda and terror techniques instructing methods to commit kidnappings and to shoot down coalition helicopters."
The Mahmudiyah region contains the notorious "Triangle of Death," an area where al Qaeda and Sunni insurgents have established bases of operations to attack Baghdad and launch attacks on the Shia areas to the south. Three U.S. soldiers were captured in the region in mid-May, and two of the soldiers are still missing.
Operation ??? in eastern Anbar
Multinational Forces West has yet to release the name of the ongoing operations in eastern Anbar province. But the scope of the operation in eastern Anbar is now clearer. In an Associated Press interview with Brigadier General John Allen, the deputy commander of Multinational Forces West, the hot spots in the province were identified.
Brig. Gen. Allen noted there are three main focal points: Fallujah, Karma, and the Thar Thar region. The Fallujah piece includes moving into each of the 11 neighborhoods of the city and "establishing very quickly neighborhood watch organizations and a police precinct headquarters." [See The Fourth Rail's interview with Colonel Richard Simcock, the commanding officer of Regimental Combat Team - 6 for more details on the operation to clear Fallujah.]
The operation to secure the Fallujah neighborhoods is called Alljah. "The operation is similar to what another unit did in the city of Ramadi," said Maj. George S. Benson, executive officer of 2nd Battalion, 6th Marines "We're capitalizing on the success of Ramadi and using many of the same techniques."
Fallujah is expected to be fully secured by August. U.S. forces expect to clear Karma, the poisonous al Qaeda haven northeast of Fallujah, and the Thar Thar region by July. "We're going to clear Karma here very shortly," Brig Gen Allen told the Associated Press, as he described the town as a "way station" to and from Baghdad. "We're going to start churning up the ground north on the grounds of Thar Thar ... a spot where we haven't had forces before."
Captain Eric Coulson, the commanding officer of an Army Engineer company in the Fallujah Ramadi corridor and author of Badgers Forward described the situation in eastern Anbar in an interview today. "Al Karma continues to be the most challenging area in Multinational Forces West's area of operations, followed by Zaidon. Karma is the one place we can be guaranteed to find IEDs every night."
Captain Coulson also discussed the improved security situation in Fallujah and the Habbaniyah and Amiriyah regions. "Fallujah gets better by the day," he noted. "Most of the area west of the river seems to be stable. There are lots of tribes and Iraqi Police providing local security in the Habbaniyah and Amiriayh/Ferris areas. The truth is it is very quiet."
Battling the Mahdi Army; raiding al Qaeda
As the major offensive is ongoing in the belts, the pressure is being kept up on Muqtada al Sadr's Mahdi Army as well as al Qaeda's network throughout Iraq.
On June 20 Iraqi Special Forces raided Sadr City and captured a "key insurgent leader" along with two associates. "This individual is allegedly responsible for coordinating and conducting kidnappings, death squad killings and improvised explosive device attacks against innocent civilians and Iraqi and Coalition Forces," reported Multinational Forces Iraq. "The primary suspect is allegedly responsible for supplying vehicles, identification materials, and uniforms to support insurgent activities such as the kidnappings and extra-judicial killing of Iraqi citizens. He is also alleged to have received new technologies to upgrade improvised explosive devices that would be used to target Iraqi and Coalition Forces."
This comes as General David Petraeus announced that an "Iran-backed" secret cell of Mahdi Army was behind the kidnapping of five British civilians in Baghdad last May. "We think that it is the same network that killed our soldiers in Karbala in an operation back in January," General Petraeus told The Times. "We killed the head of that network less than a week before the operation that detained those British civilians. It was already planned and carried out by his followers. It is a secret cell of Jaish al-Mahdi [al-Mahdi Army] not all of which are under control of Moqtada al-Sadr." General Petraeus is referring to the Iranian backed Qazali Network, which the U.S. has been actively working to dismantle.
The operations against al Qaeda's nationwide network also continue. Raids on Wednesday and Thursday in Mosul, Karma, Fallujah, and "north of Baghdad" netted 11 al Qaeda. Coalition forces have positively identified an al Qaeda leader from the Karma region who was killed on June 17. "Hussayn Awath Hussayn Hawawi, also known as Abu Thabbit, was a Libyan foreign fighter with connections to the North African foreign fighter network and ties to al Qaeda in Iraq Intelligence reports indicate he moved at least 30 North African fighters into Iraq" after escaping during a prison break in Mosul in March. "Hawawi is also believed to be involved in suicide bombing operations, and his foreign fighters allegedly conducted a number of attacks on Coalition Forces in Anbar province in late May."
The concurrent operations in the Baghdad Belts, combined with the effort to secure Baghdad and the Special Forces raids on al Qaeda's network will place a great strain on the terror group if the momentum is carried through the summer. Iraqi and Coalition fForces are striking hard in the heart of al Qaeda and Sunni insurgent havens in Diyala, Babil, and Anbar while squeezing the terror groups in the capital and conducting intelligence driven raids to keep the enemy off balance.
Al Qaeda can chose to stand and fight, and may do so in some places. But will eventually attempt to flee the hot zones in central Iraq for safer grounds. This will push them further from Iraq's center of gravity, while placing them at risk while attempting to reestablish their networks. Northwestern Iraq - Niwena, Salahadin, and Kirkuk - will be a likely destination, however some of the most experienced Iraqi Army units are operating in the region. Some of them are taking up blocking positions to prevent the infiltration of terrorists attempting to escape Operation Phantom Thunder.
READER COMMENTS: "Operation Phantom Thunder: The Battle of Iraq"
Posted by Ted at June 21, 2007 1:48 PM ET:
The tide is beginning to turn!! Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
Posted by Mike R at June 21, 2007 2:16 PM ET:
Phantom Fury???? Wasn't that the name of the second Fallujah clearing as well? I guess the brass is superstitious...
In all seriousness though things are looking good
Posted by Sheldon at June 21, 2007 3:01 PM ET:
Thanks for all you do Bill. This report is really heartening.
The political and media situation here in the US is frustrating, I love to read how it really is.
Posted by C-Low at June 21, 2007 3:33 PM ET:
Bill not many on this post as yet but I have noticed especially on your last that your trackbacks are getting mighty long. There is a absolute HUNGER NEED for news from the WOT that is in context of military norms and reason. You and a few others reinforced by the huge growing numbers of mill bloggers are that voice.
If Fox News editors had a brain they would set up a DAILY "From the Front WOT" hour long program were You & Yon as regulars and a rotating group of Toten and of course Mill Bloggers with a mediator maybe Unchle Jimbo or xpesome such.
I would bet $100 bucks that the rating would in short order through the roof not to mention the satisfaction Fox would get from the rest of the media outlets playing catch up and paying to pull quotes news off the show. You guys called Anbar back when the Summer offensive started over a year & half ago and then called the result of if the Anbar council succeeds (it did you were proven right) then you guys called this new offensive and the point that we were rolling AQ into the Diyala pocket for a boxed attack and again you called what is now happening what 3-4 months ago?
Point is the Mainstream Media is insanley lacking in the ability to understand comprehend and hence report Military matters in context. Examples of such inability is glaring from the fact Iraq historically compared so far is no were near a failure in any measure and more simple like a CNN show I saw the other day were the reporter was crying about how "these soldgiers are putting one dog tag on thier neck and one in their shoe strings, becuase you know sometimes after these IED's there is horrible damage sometimes you lose a arm or leg so you are covered one neck one shoe", I remember my gradfather telling me such about putting a tag in his shoe laces becuase in his words "a mortor or artillery shells hits you sometimes all that is left is your shoe". Common knowledge for the military but revolutionary ideas for our supposed "qualified expert" media.
Posted by crosspatch at June 21, 2007 4:41 PM ET:
Yon has posted that the major media outlets are not in Baqubah yet or at least he hasn't seen them in any of the briefings. I might imagine that travel to that area of operations might be a bit dicey right now and unless someone was already there before it kicked off, then they are going to be out of luck for a while.
It appears that BBC was taken unawares and did post a request on their website for Iraqis to report troop movements to the BBC via their web form but that was puled due to reader outrage.
NYT should have some good reporting out soon from Michael Gordon who, according to Yon, has been in the thick of it alongside our troops and is apparently writing some good stuff but it remains to be seen how it looks once it gets through editing back here before publication. Other news organizations appear to be absent:
During the morning brief (June 20th), Major Robbie Parke mentioned that CNN, TIME, Reuters and some others, are trying to get out here now. Problem is space. Looks like Gordon and I are mostly alone for now. Others are said to be in Baqubah, but if they are here, they are missing some of the most important parts, and if they were at the important commander's meetings, I would have seen them.
Posted by Jonathan Klingler at June 21, 2007 5:17 PM ET:
To anyone who reads Michael Yon and your reports, it is clear that Phantom Thunder is unprecedented in post-Saddam operations in terms of its geographical scope and size of the force used. You've been using Battle of Iraq as a term for this operation, and it makes complete sense to me. My question is, is this common usage among people on the ground and experts, and if it is not, why isn't it? It seems like Phantom Thunder is as close to a decisive battle plan as we are going to see. Once again, great work!
Posted by Jeffery at June 21, 2007 5:52 PM ET:
All this success is bound to turn off the liberals and press in general. I am super glad!!!
Posted by anand at June 21, 2007 6:36 PM ET:
From the top article: "We're going to clear Karma here very shortly,"
Is it spelled "Garmah" in the following map?
Arab words are frequently spelled multiple ways when converted to English (often one word can have many technically correct spellings).
Posted by Teflon Don at June 21, 2007 9:13 PM ET:
Yes, that is Karma (or Garmah, or Karmah, etc etc).
Posted by Patrick Coyle at June 21, 2007 10:11 PM ET:
As an ex-grunt I really appreciate reporting from a war zone by someone who understands what is going on. Unfortunately, since the draft was stopped too many years ago there are not enough people with actual military exposure to comprehend the difference between military reporting and talking heads. Those of us who do salute you.
Posted by Marlin at June 21, 2007 11:02 PM ET:
Joe Klein from Time is also now in Baqubah. He reports both good and not so good news.
A lieutenant colonel named Bruce Antonia told Odierno about preparing to attack the Buhritz neighborhood a few nights earlier when he was approached by local Sunni inusurgents-members, they said, of the 1920 Revolutionary Brigades-who were streaming out of the neighborhood. "They said they'd been fighting al-Qaeda but had run out of ammunition and asked us to supply them. We told them, 'Show us where AQ is and we'll fight them.'" The insurgents did and the neighborhood was cleared.
At a second briefing, at a bunkered, joint U.S.-Iraqi command post in the middle of Baquba, the news was less optimistic. An Iraqi General said that he was pretty certain that the al-Qaeda leadership had slipped away, north to Tikrit and Samarra, and that many of the fighters were burying their equipment before they left town, hoping to return-as always-when the Americans left. "Well, it's up to you to make sure they don't come back," Odierno said.
Time: Turning on al-Qaeda in Baquba
Posted by Chaos at June 21, 2007 11:28 PM ET:
I think it's been made painfully clear that outside of Baghdad it is largely going to be the tribal militias, not the Iraqi Army and especially not the police, who are going to be the ones doing the heavy lifting keeping al-Qaeda from coming back =/
Posted by Lisa in DC at June 21, 2007 11:28 PM ET:
Totally awesome per usual. Thanks for the dedicated and detailed reporting!
Posted by RedRaider at June 21, 2007 11:46 PM ET:
"An Iraqi General said that he was pretty certain that the al-Qaeda leadership had slipped away, north to Tikrit and Samarra"
This is all part of the plan. I'll bet we have Special Forces hot on their tail. Fleeing terrorists make great targets. I smell a JDAM with their names on it.
Great reporting as usual. Thank you so much.
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Posted by Badger 6 at June 22, 2007 12:53 PM ET:
I like your new editor.
Posted by matthew schrank at June 22, 2007 4:37 PM ET:
I heard in this one AP report that 'three quarters' of AQI leadership 'fled' before the assault- with no sources given.
Any credibility to this insinuation that the campaign is already a failure- or is this just typical AP propaganda?
Posted by Jay Wells at June 22, 2007 4:45 PM ET:
Help me to understand when Gen. Odierno says 80% of al-Qaida leaders fled Baqubah. Did he mean they fled before or after the operation was launched?
Posted by ME at June 22, 2007 4:54 PM ET:
Any credibility to this insinuation that the campaign is already a failure- or is this just typical AP propaganda?
Even if true the mission is not "allready a failure" given that most AQ appar to have ben trapped and are now being killed or captured.
It also seems hard to believe that, with the operation still ongoing, the number of AQ leaders that may or may not have fled would be known at a precision of 80%. The only way to know that would be if they were actually seen leaving and were allowed to get away.
Posted by crosspatch at June 22, 2007 5:04 PM ET:
What I heard reported today was:
"80% of the senior leadership have fled but we will find them. 80% of the lower leadership is still in the area of operations and are trapped"
So there is sone good and some bad news. It is probably easier for the senior leaders to slip out as they would have more powerful connections and simply by being older, might be perceived as less of a threat than a more junior, younger operator and able to get though checkpoints and the like. A guy in his 50's with a woman of the same age might be able to negotiate their way past someone who might look closer at someone in their 30's but I am speculating there. In any case, the higher leadership would be expected to have some powerful help though personal connections they might have that allow them some degree of freedom of movement. Remember that these people rarely stay in one place very long anyway.
I am still amazed at the lack of overall analysis coming from the conventional news sources. They are giving us narrow glimpses from particular locations but seem to be purposely avoiding any "50,000 foot" view of what is going on.
Posted by RedRaider at June 22, 2007 7:01 PM ET:
The complete lack of quality reproting on the important battle by the MSM is another sign that they are in their death throes. Granted, there are a few guys embedded along side Michael Yon and Bill Roggio but have neither skills nor the inclination to report the details of VICTORY. If they cannot find a way to make America and her allies look bad, they just won't file the story. And even if they do, their editors will headline it with an anti-American spin.
As to those escaping, I suspect there will be fewer and fewer places for them to run and to hide. Montentum is shifting dramatically. Let's keep the pressure on them. Thanks for the great reporting and keep our brave fighting men and women in your prayers.
Posted by Neo at June 22, 2007 8:43 PM ET:
"Help me to understand when Gen. Odierno says 80% of al-Qaida leaders fled Baqubah. Did he mean they fled before or after the operation was launched?"�
From the context, I took it to mean that a majority of the Al Quada leadership in Diyala bugged out before the operation was launched. Also, I think he meant 80 percent as a figure of speech, meaning most of them, rather than an exact percentage. (If his intel on how many of the enemy left is good enough to quote an exact percentages, he'd better shut up and do something about it. I doubt his information is that exact though.) It's useless to speculate on numbers, but the leadership could have taken a force with them they thought they could maintain further north and left the remainder to fight it out in Diyala province.
Lets not get into a big argument about whether this is a success or not, so early in the battle. Let's realistically look at what is at stake. This is the primary staging point for Al Quada operations into Baghdad. Al Quada is in the process of losing all areas of control around Baghdad which will force their operations underground. There's a real opportunity to significantly degrade Al Quada's forces within Diyala province (That doesn't mean that they are all going to be trapped and killed). Those that survive will be pushed up into the narrow part of the Tigris river valley above Samara. It's rather slim pickings for Al Quada up there and we will be in hot pursuit. Add to that, the strong possibility that local Sunni councils much like the Anbar council could take political control within Diyala province and make it very difficult for Al Quada to come back into Diyala.
Posted by Jay Wells at June 23, 2007 8:01 AM ET:
"Help me to understand when Gen. Odierno says 80% of al-Qaida leaders fled Baqubah. Did he mean they fled before or after the operation was launched?"
My hunch was that they were tipped off. Jennifer Griffin of Fox News apparently had the same hunch at yesterday's teleconference with Gen. Odierno. Here is their Q&A on this point:
"Q General, it's Jennifer Griffin from Fox News. Yesterday you said that you thought that about 80 percent of the lower-level -- sorry -- higher-level al Qaeda leaders in Baqubah had escaped before the forces went in there. Do you think that they were tipped, and perhaps they were tipped by Iraqis that you had consulted with about -- in the security forces or in the government who you had consulted with about the operation?
There were signs from the air that they were laying IEDs on the road. They clearly knew you were coming. How did they know?
GEN. ODIERNO: Well, frankly, I think that they knew an operation was coming in Baqubah. They watched the news. They understood we had a surge. They understood Baqubah was designated as a problem area. So they knew we were going to come sooner or later. I don't think they were tipped off by Iraqi security forces. I think they were tipped off by us talking about the surge, us discussing the fact that we have a problem in Diyala province.
And this is a pattern, by the way, of the leaders, and I'm talking about the top leaders now. And when I said 80 percent, I'm talking about 80 percent of the top leaders. They always do this. They did it in Fallujah. They don't stay and fight. They -- when the tough -- when it -- when the fight comes, they leave. They don't stay there with their recruits that they recruited into al Qaeda. What stays are the mid-level leaders and the fighters. But I guarantee you, we're going to track down those leaders. And we're in the process of doing that. We know who they are, and we're coming after them, and we're going to work that extremely hard.
But I don't think they were tipped off. I think these deep-buried IEDs have been there for a long time. This is a tactic that al Qaeda uses. They come into an area, and then what they do is, they form a support zone around themselves by putting in many, many deep- buried IEDs, because they know that's one way they can protect themselves. So this is -- we see this in many other places. This is -- when they try to take an area over, this is their way to protect themselves."
Thank you for the question, Jennifer. And a bigger thank you to Gen. Odierno for your service to our country.
Posted by jordan at June 24, 2007 3:36 PM ET:
Seems pretty likely that that 80% was tipped off by the endless surmising and yakking about what the surge would entail, and the fact that the U.S. military pointed out Diyala province was next on their list.
That's the problem with fighting "transparently". We have a media environment where combat leaders have to spell out what they're doing, where they're doing it, and how, every 24 hrs. The public and lib leaders, goaded by the media, want to know everything, as fast as possible.
So, the military responds to these media and news cycle demands. When the inevitable happens, and the enemy adjusts to that information, the very same entities that demand full and immediate disclosure of military plans and intentions declare the plan a failure because some got away!


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