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A former parking lot between the Queens Center mall and the Long Island Expressway has been empty for the past 12 years and now the developers who own it want to build three restaurants there.
The College Point-based Mattone Group presented its plan at an informational Newtown Civic Association meeting in Corona Tuesday night. The company would bring in an Olive Garden, a Longhorn Steakhouse and Joe's Crab Shack, which will cover approximately 25,000 to 30,000 square feet, surrounded by free parking spaces. If the plan moves forward, they predict that the establishments will open in April or May 2014.
Most of the meeting focused on the civic association members' parking and traffic congestion-related concerns, but Robert Valdes-Clausell, an officer of the Newtown Civic Association and a member of Community Board 4, brought up the property's history and the developer's history of shortchanging the surrounding community.
Valdes-Clausell also noted the meeting's unusual timing, in the summer, when many community members are away.
"This has all the trappings of something that is not kosher," he said of the new plan.
The city's Economic Development Corp. sold the property, which was a city parking lot, to Mattone on Dec. 17, 2001 for $2.2 million. The City Council, including the area's former Councilman John Sabini (D-Elmhurst), approved the deal, overriding the objections of CB 4 and disregarding the city's Uniform Land Use Review Procedure.
Mattone's contract with EDC contained several restrictions. The developer was supposed to build a movie theater, which Loews would operate, within four and a half years and buy the dilapidated Elmwood Theater, and give the proceeds to Catholic Medical Services, which then operated St. John's Hospital according to Valdes-Clausell. If those restrictions were not met, the EDC was entitled to buy back the property for $1.
The Mattone Group did not comply with the restrictions, but the EDC did not repossess the property. Loews declared bankruptcy shortly after, and Mattone never found a replacement as the movie-theater business was in decline. Therefore, Mattone never purchased the Elmwood Theater and Loews sold it to the Rock Church instead. St. John's Hospital filed for bankruptcy in 2009.
On Feb. 6, 2013 Mattone signed a new contract with the EDC, in which the developer paid $3 million to modify the original deed from 2001, allowing it to build the restaurants on the property.
Mattone claims that they did not need to seek community approval because the proposed restaurants are in accordance with area zoning laws and that informing the community before beginning construction was merely a courtesy.
Valdes-Clausell accused Mattone of putting the cart before the horse, by making a new deal with EDC without informing or asking the community about it first.
Moreover, the $3 million in the recent contract went straight to the EDC, not the community.
"We lost a great location we could've used for some communal purpose," Valdes-Clausell said, noting that the property had been eyed for a new police station for the 110th Precinct, which the City Council has the funds for, but no space.
"It would've been the perfect location and the city wouldn't have to seize any homes," he said.
The current police station, at 94-41 43rd Ave. is on a one-way street and police often have trouble parking there, he added.
Valdes-Clausell also claims that CB 4 frequently inquired about the status of the property after 2005, but never received a straight answer from Mattone, the EDC, or the borough president.
"Why should Mattone be let off the hook for $3 million?" he asked, referring to the fact that the contract was breached, CB4 never approved it in the first place, and the property was not repossessed by the EDC for $1, or put back on the market for competitive bidding.
Nicholas Dovas, a longtime member of the Newtown Civic Association, fears the restaurant project is already a done deal.
"I hate to see this rammed down the community's throat," he said. "These people are politically connected."
Councilman Daniel Dromm's Chief of Staff Andrew Ronan voiced similar concerns at the meeting.
"We heard about this through whispers and rumors," Ronan said. "We're not sure why the EDC went this route. People are out of town and it feels like they're trying to get this in under the wire."
As for the Newtown Civic Association members' parking concerns, Mattone plans to have free parking spots for restaurant-goers, while the spots for the mall cost money. The primary concern was that people will leave their cars in the restaurant lot and go to the mall for several hours. Preventing this situation would require enforcement via a security company.
"Everyone in Queens is familiar with the threatening, ominous 'park at your own risk situation,'" one of the Mattone brothers said.
The property is also located near the Woodhaven Boulevard subway station, so some were concerned about people parking cars in that lot and then riding the subway.
Civic Association members described the "nightmarish" traffic in the area, on the Long Island Expressway ramps, Queens Boulevard, 59th Avenue and Junction Boulevard, which they fear will be exacerbated by development on the property, especially during the holiday season.
Meanwhile, CB 4's district manager Christian Cassagnol said his main priority is job creation, which he said the area needs. Mattone claims that building the restaurants will create 350 to 400 new jobs.
Cassagnol told Mattone that he would like the new restaurants to be part of an internship program at the Queens Center mall, in which students from the community will shadow store managers for a day.


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Do you all have stable and permenant grids on your gardens? What did you use and how did you you attach it? |
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I ended up going with thick string. It was just too expensive to buy the wooden slats after all the money I had already put into it. If I had built nice cedar beds I think I would spend the extra on the wooden grids. But since I'm not even sure I'll like gardening I went cheap. I pounded a few nails at 1ft intervals and wound the string back and forth across each side to form squares. In a few years if I'm still gardening I will upgrade :) . Of course, according the the book I don't have an official sfg now since I used string LOL. |
I have a recycled plastic bed frame, I didn't want to put holes into it and I was also feeling a little broke by this time also, so I used garden pins and string. I have to straighten it ever once in a while and it will have to be replaced next year for sure. It works and once things fill in you don't see it. |
- Posted by mike_in_paradise 6 US 5A Canada (My Page) on Sat, Aug 9, 08 at 11:17
I used fishing net line. I pick it up from an industrial supplier and it is $13 for a roll that lasts me a long time. I think it is 100 meters in a roll. I have some of this for supports in another garden area that has been outside for 3 years and still as strong as can be. I just used Roofing Nails( till I ran out :) ) to hold it. So far I am happy with this but need a few years to be sure! |
- Posted by kitkat5505 (My Page) on Sat, Aug 9, 08 at 12:31
I just used twine and bamboo sticks stuck in the soil to tie it on. I was going as cheap as possible this year since it's my very first year gardening and I wasn't sure how it would work out, so I didn't want to spend a ton. The twine is working very well, my only problem is my boys like to pull up the sticks holding it down lol, so next year I'll be putting in something they can't remove so easily. |
- Posted by fishymamas z9, So. CA (My Page) on Sat, Aug 9, 08 at 13:40
Yardsticks. My beds are 3ft deep so I have yardsticks that were $1 from the fabric store, thin coat of leftover deck sealer, and screwed them down. However expect to get odd looks when buying out all the yardsticks at once. (I'm a teacher and had on the school shirt, so they assumed for the class). Hubby also had the boys at his work make me some grid planks... 1 ft square scraps of cabnetry wood, drilled with 1, 4, 9, 16 holes at the proper spacings, with the kids we put the planks down, stick a pick-up-stick in each hole, lift the plank, and the kids can use the sticks to show them where to put the seeds. |
I use a 4 foot wide mini blind that I got from Walmart for 10 dollars. I just took it apart and punched holes every 12 inches on each slat. Put them together with brass tabs from Staples. I just lay the grid on top of the soil. I think there was about 65 - 70 slats in the mini blind. |
I used natural garen twine, and secured it with those galvinized staples that I pounded into the tops of my beds. That way the kids don't poke themselves on whatever secures the string in place. |
Here is a link that might be useful: Sinfonian's garden adventure!
i will be using twine. and use a staple gun to staple the twine down. they have different kinds of cheap ones at walmart. when i run out, i will get me some yarn. :') ~Medo |
I used eyelet hook thingies LOL and twine!!! |
- Posted by anniesgranny (My Page) on Sun, Aug 10, 08 at 23:40
Garden twine and push pins. Sometimes I stray from sfg just a little bit and use my finger or the rake handle, but I'm a very good judge of distances, LOL! Annie's Granny |
Here is a link that might be useful: Annie's Kitchen Garden
- Posted by photopilot (My Page) on Mon, Aug 11, 08 at 9:59
The wooden slats described in the book are 44cents at Home Depot so about $3 for one 4x4 bed. |
- Posted by sparks5478 Zone 7 LI, NY (My Page) on Mon, Aug 11, 08 at 12:00
I use 1/2" wide plastic strapping tape stapled into the top frame of my boxes. It's yellow so it's easy to see, it's very sturdy (I found that twine always decomposed before the end of the season) and it's reusable so it's environmentally PC. Staples usually carries it in the packing section. |
- Posted by the_seventh_worm Zone 6 (My Page) on Mon, Aug 11, 08 at 13:16
String, deck screws. (Actually, for the first SFG bed that I made, I'd used the slats as described in The Book. But then I thought, why be anal, and then degraded to string.) |
I'm a weenie, I just guesstimate. I know this kind of thing makes Bartholomew nuts, but hey, he hasn't visited my house since I started anyway. |
- Posted by anniesgranny 6b (My Page) on Mon, Aug 11, 08 at 20:31
carolynp, I agree! I don't think he'll be coming to my house to check out my garden soil, either! But, hey...I do use his spacing guides (but sometimes they end up looking like rows...) To stay ON TOPIC (ahem), there is no way my zucchini and crookneck squash can grow in less than a 4'x4' square, so that's two beds that need no grids. Next year I'm actually going to grow them off to the side of the beds on their own area, 'cause they are overtaking my pathways. Annie's Granny |
Here is a link that might be useful: Annie's Kitchen Garden
Mine had to be "pretty" so I used 4' bamboo sticks held in a grid by floral wire. |
- Posted by tola_in_texas (My Page) on Thu, Aug 14, 08 at 11:09
Photopilot, Where did you find the 44 cent slats at Home Depot. I went to Home Depot, Lowes, Gibsons, and a couple of hardware stores and could only find expensive trim. I ended up using a heavy string and staples. It has worked since the spring, but I would like a wood frame. |
There's redwood slats at HD in the garden dept, should be near the RR ties and the pre-made redwood lattice. |
i drilled small holes through the sides of my tin bed to string twine through. If i'm still sfging when it rots i'll replace it with fishing line. |
- Posted by oxonhammer Z8, Oxon, UK, (My Page) on Fri, Aug 15, 08 at 11:17
We don't have Home Depot here in the UK, and couldn't find any wooden slats for anything less than Ł2 (about 4 of your good dollars)! I also have a six foot long bed, so more of a problem. In the end, I had to use large staples which I hammered into the top of my bed every 30 inches, and then threaded binding twine (in bright blue) between them. Seems to look OK, and works alright. Although is starting to get a bit loose now, so my squares are getting a tad distorted :-) |
Here is a link that might be useful: My SFG Blog
- Posted by ChristianCowboy North Carolina (My Page) on Fri, Apr 26, 13 at 9:47
This is my first year in Square Foot Gardening. I research all aslpects of materials for creating the grid on the upper surface of my boxes. My boxes, contrary to most, are very large (8' W X 15' L X 1' Deep). Home Depot caries a 1 X 2 X 8 wooden trim piece (pressure treated using the new method, which contains no arsenic. Their price for the trim piece is $1.09 each Lowes Home Improvement caries a green colored Twine, called Blue Hawk 1/16-in x 90-ft Twisted Jute Rope. Their Item #: 349247. Their price is $1.38 per spool. Being new to the Square Foot Gardening concept, I will test the waters this year with both products, in separte boxes, to see what works best. Either way, it appears to be relatively inexpensive either way. I do agree with many, this is a great concept, but the costs associated with the initial build is expensive. Looking forward to learning as much as I can from the forum discussions. |
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I know it's the wrong time of year, but they were on the site of 3 very old houses that were torn down, & there wasn't any way to wait. I'd trade large numbers of them for any *other* kind, named or not, as long as you've seen it bloom & know it isn't iris albicans. There are also a bunch of unnamed yellow historics, the ones that bloom alongside the old white ones. Some of these are separated, but some of them were growing side by side or got mixed in the boxes, so I can't guarantee 100% white or 100% yellow. In addition to my beloved bearded iris, I also love Dutch iris & spurias. I do understand that it's the wrong time to disturb your irises, so I would be open to any other plants. You can email me at firstname.lastname@example.com. I'm looking forward to making a trip or two to the post office! |
Here is a link that might be useful: my trade list-don't let it limit your suggestions!
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DO you know the color of the Spuria ones? |
- Posted by sylviatexas z8a Tx (My Page) on Fri, Mar 29, 13 at 14:42
Are they the ones that dig themselves into the ground & they're sort of semi-rhizomous & semi-bulbous & their leaves are longer & slenderer than bearded irises? If so, I have some, but I don't know the color. same thing, I got them where the houses were torn down, & they had been there so long & had dug themselves in so deeply that the backhoe guy had to dig them out for me. I'll be out & about later today; aquawise, I did reply to the email you sent me, but it bounced back. |
This post was edited by sylviatexas on Fri, Mar 29, 13 at 14:44
They do tend to root deep! the Rhizome is somewhat different than the bearded Iris ! More long ans slender As are the leaves. I have one Color that is white with a bright yellow splotch on the falls. They are slow to bloom after being moved. I have lots of TB Iris and I should have some extras come June and July. Here is a link to what I have so far! I planted about 75 new colors last fall. |
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- Posted by sylviatexas z8a Tx (My Page) on Fri, Mar 29, 13 at 18:09
Thanks! I googled, & I think these must be spurias. I'd bet they're the old Orientalis, which sounds like what you have already, but nobody was at home at the house next to the demolition site. I do know where there are some bright yellow ones, & I think the owner would let me take some. Your irises are gorgeous! |
I would take some of the Yellow spuria ones if you can get a few. I will put your name down to contact when I dig mine later on in the year. Please get some pics of the ones you got from the old homes! I would love to see them. |
- Posted by browneyedsusan z8a AL (My Page) on Thu, Apr 4, 13 at 10:37
I am interested in the iris that blooms with I. albicans (I.orientalis) and the yellow spuria. I have several TB irises (yellow, cinnamon red, lavender, Loop the loop (plicata), white), Louisianna irises (four colors) and other plants on my list. Please let me know if you would like to trade. Susan |
When do the Cemetery iris bloom in you zone? That way I will know wt ones might work for you. |
- Posted by sylviatexas z8a Tx (My Page) on Fri, Apr 5, 13 at 20:41
Aqua, the albicans have been blooming for a while now, maybe a month, & they're just beginning to fade. The yellow ones started a little later & they're still coming on pretty strong. The order is usually: Just let me know when you're ready, & I'll go visit the guy who has the yellow spurias. Susan, I'd be pleased to trade, but I have the albicans, spuria Iris Orientalis, etc, now, & I don't have the yellow ones yet. When did you want to make the trade? If now, I need to go talk to the spuria guy pretty soon! I'd like the plicata, red, cinnamon, & Louisianas, in whatever proportion & whatever numbers you're happy with. Please let me know how many of the yellow TBs you want; |
- Posted by margarita10 7Batl (My Page) on Thu, Apr 18, 13 at 13:35
Hi, I have deep purple bearded Iris and would like to trade for anything you may have left. margarita10 |
- Posted by browneyedsusan z8a AL (firstname.lastname@example.com) on Sat, Apr 20, 13 at 21:34
Sylvia, I am ready to trade as the Irises you want are blooming and I can identify them. Please send me your address. Thanks, |
- Posted by lotuslady_ca (My Page) on Sun, Apr 28, 13 at 20:13
- Posted by sylviatexas z8a Tx (My Page) on Wed, Jun 5, 13 at 15:49
sorry, I've been busy, just got back here. I just got some of the yellow spurias this morning; The bearded irises I have left are all mixed up & in bedraggled condition, & I'd feel better about waiting til I either see them bloom, or maybe til I get some more from a local trade, to send anything to anybody. Aqua & Susan, please let me know how many orientalis & how many yellow you'd like, & send me your addresses (email@example.com gw's system works, & sometimes...). Susan, I'd love to have plicata, cinnamon, & maybe Louisianas if you have enough. I'll be getting some crinums later on, but they're the milk & wine kind, betcha you have them already. There're a zillion of them, & they're gorgeous, but they're taking over the universe; I'll try to get photos. Aqua, I'm hoping you still want some of these flowers; so I made a list, like any greedy child at Christmas, & the only way I can think of to prioritize it, since I don't think you'd want to part with 80 pounds of irises & I wouldn't want someone at the post office to hurt him/herself lifting the box, is that generally, the older the better. Florentina Pick out however-many you're comfortable with, & let me know how many Orientalis & yellow spuria you want! Margarita, I'll be glad to send you some spurias and a bunch of the "leftover" antiques for a few deep purples, or I'll be happy to wait til next spring, or I can send you some leftovers for postage. Kathy, same kind of thing: I can send spurias & leftovers for a couple of the brown/purple (sounds so intriguing!), & the blue & the yellow if you have enough, or I can send you leftovers for postage. but I'm really wanting that brown/purple... Please let me know! |
This post was edited by sylviatexas on Wed, Jun 5, 13 at 15:56
- Posted by sylviatexas z8a Tx (My Page) on Sun, Jun 16, 13 at 15:37
anybody here? Please let me know if you are still interested. Thanks. |
Sorry for the delay in responding!! SO the list you posted are the Iris I have that you want? I am up for a trade! My Iris are now done blooming so the can be dug. Some on you list suffered to much from our crazy spring to dog this year. Others are plentiful. |
- Posted by sylviatexas z8a Tx (My Page) on Sun, Jun 23, 13 at 13:01
oops, haven't been online lately myself; hurt my hands & wrists removing an old sidewalk, couldn't even drive to the store or hold up a book to read, let alone work in the garden or type on a keyboard. Yes, the list is what appeals to me the most; I'm going to try to get to my friend's house next week to get the yellow spurias. |
- Posted by browneyedsusan z8a AL (email@example.com) on Sat, Jun 29, 13 at 16:14
Sylvia, I mailed a priority package to you yesterday and have sent you the confirmation number by email. You should receive it on Monday. Susan |
- Posted by browneyedsusan z8a AL (email@example.com) on Mon, Jul 8, 13 at 23:13
Sylvia, I have not heard from you since I mailed you a package of iris on Jun 28. nor have I received your end of the trade. Susan |
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Brugler's "Greenbrae" honey comes from bees that sup on wildflowers, citrus blossoms, lavender and rosemary blooms and the other plants that thrive in and around his hillside home.
He makes sure not to rob the hive of the honey necessary for it to survive. And the honey, which is considered therapeutic and an antiseptic, never goes bad once it's bottled.
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If you do want to venture into backyard beekeeping, Tomaszerski has some tips:
"You don't need much space to keep bees; only the footprint of a hive — about 18 inches by 24 inches located out of the way of foot traffic"
"Don't be afraid of honey bees. They're gentle vegans that are just interested in nectar and pollen and going from flower to flower. They only sting as a last resort and then they die."
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Plant flowers of different shapes to attract different types of pollinators.
Grow a succession of flowering plants that lasts from spring through fall to support a range of bee species.
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The deal confirms a report that first appeared in a front-page story in WWD on June 24.
For VF, a $5.7 billion company that lost out in its attempt to buy Calvin Klein Inc. in December, a Nautica acquisition enhances its portfolio by adding two upscale denim brands, Nautica Jeans and Earl Jean, boosting its presence in department and specialty stores and providing it with a leading brand in the men's sportswear category. In addition to leveraging VF's jeanswear expertise, Nautica is expected to benefit from VF's supply chain capabilities, sourcing, and inventory and brand management.
The deal is the most recent in a string of acquisitions of high profile apparel brands in the last seven months, including Phillips -Van Heusen's acquisition of Calvin Klein Inc.; Lawrence Stroll and Silas Chou's purchase of Michael Kors LLC; Oxford Industries' purchase of Tommy Bahama; Liz Claiborne's acquisition of Juicy Couture, and Kellwood's bid last month for Kasper ASL, which is still pending and has subsequent competition from firms such as Jones and Claiborne.
It also raises the question of what's left to buy, given that everyone from Tommy Hilfiger to Jones has admitted they remain on the prowl for acquisitions to deliver topline growth.
VF is expected to pay Nautica shareholders $17 per share in cash. The company will also pay approximately $14.6 million, net of tax, to cash out employee stock options for a total consideration of approximately $585.6 million. The transaction, expected to close at the start of the fourth quarter of 2003, could add 10 cents to VF's earnings per share in 2004. The acquisition of Nautica can be terminated by either company if not completed by Feb. 7, 2004, with VF in line to receive an $18 million breakup fee, according to filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission.
News of the sale drove shares of Nautica up a hefty $3.59, or 27.2 percent, to close at $16.78 in Nasdaq trading Monday. VF's stock also rose, picking up $1.55, or 4.6 percent, to end the day at $35.59 on the New York Stock Exchange. The proposed combination was instrumental in driving share prices up throughout the apparel and retail sectors. [See related story page 2.]


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'PISS CHRIST' Coming to New York City: Catholic League's Bill Donohue to Lead Protest Comments
Serrano said that "Piss Christ" was "meant to question the whole notion of what is acceptable and unacceptable." There is not much to question: decent people know it is unacceptable. But in elite cultural circles, anti-Christian art is not only acceptable, it is laudatory. Just don't offend Muslims. Continue Reading
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2 years ago
Albert Maas, Yes, it's free speech but the sicko' s blasphemy was sponsored by tax payer money. He can't blaspheme on MY DIME. Our senators and Reps have a responsibility to pull any funding for this filth. Sicko can blaspheme on his OWN DIME. The Art Museum IS NOT obligated to show this filth. This is where We The Faithful come into play. We can exercise Our Free Speech by demonstrating outside the museum. The Art Museum should not receive a penny of tax payer funds for this filth. Our Reps should immediately pull all public funds.
2 years ago
Hey Vance, it is called free speech. Blasphemy is not a crime it, is a necessity in all free societies,
2 years ago
The Catholic League was started by the church and a priest if Im not mistaken. They work with and through the Catholic League thats why the appointed Bill Donohue for the job.
I would be very surprised if they didnt know what was going on. Bill is the best person to represent all of us including the clergy. Thats why this organization was set up. -
2 years ago
While I can certainly understand some of the outrage, the problem with making noise about some of these "works of art" is that we generally serve only to provide these "artists" with free publicity, which is generally the fifteen minutes of fame that the "artist" in question was counting on when they were "expressing themselves". One instance I can remember well was the Church response to Madonna's video "Just Like a Prayer" where Church officials chose not to provide Madonna with free publicity. I have often wondered what would happen if we were to ignore these "artists", that maybe they will simply disappear into obscurity where they belong. I guess it is a hard call. Do we express our outrage, providing free publicity to an obscure artist who would probably be quickly forgotten anyway or do we wrestle with our conscience by ignoring them?
2 years ago
It's not art, it's garbage, intended to incite people of faith- which it did, because we LET it. The only reason this thing has any importance at all is that WE GAVE IT TO HIM. Mapplethorpe got exactly what he wanted... FROM US.
think about it a second. The sort of person something like this appeals to... they don't actually CARE. It's only the reaction they get from US they're interested in... and so while I applaud Mr. Donohue's position, I think he's being foolish; it will be WE CATHOLICS who keep this thing in the news, and give it exposure. Some things are just to stupid and inane to dignify with protest. All we're doing is playing into the hands of the people looking to make a buck off this disgraceful thing... and we're giving it to them. And what will we accomplish? NOTHING, except giving them exactly the attention and controversy they want. And we have no "win" here. It should be just ignored- like it deserves. It's garbage. WE are giving it too much attantion. WE will be the ones to keep it in the public eye. And we'll call it "defending the Church." Pitiful. -
2 years ago
God will not not be mocked,this kind of art mocks all of humanity,humanity cannot mock God,in attempting to mock God humanity only mocks itself. Humanity is the source of it's very own damnation,as is each and every human being. God does not damn anyone to hell because we are the ones that damn ourselves. "Choose a Blessing or choose a curse"!
2 years ago
I can't help but wonder if Catholics and other Christian Communities are now at liberty to: (a) riot in the streets, (b) murder the innocent, (c) burn down the Edward Tyler Nahem gallery, (d) demand the current administration to profusely apologize and outlaw "art" like this, and if (e) Christian religious leaders can now issue the equivalent of an Islamic Fatwa on the lives of those that have aided Andres Serrano or his family?!?
Get the point? Why is Islam treated so differently and the world cowers in fear to even comment on Islam. Yet, when it comes to Judaism, Christianity and numerous other religions, when outright grotesque blasphemy such as this is published or displayed as "Art" using U.S. tax dollars in some cases, everyone remains relatively calm and the ACLU says it's a matter of free-speech! I do not condone murder and riot, but it needs to be pointed out that Western Democracies and its citizens need to stop kowtowing to Islam and being held hostage to its immaturity and Temper Tantrums!
2 years ago
The fact that Christians and Jews are persecuted moreover all the other religions is simply a reinforcement to the fact that Christianity is the one and true faith. The Lord Jesus Christ told us in Scripture that we would be persecuted for our belief and love of Him. Satan has his hands in the powers of media, government, and the judicial system.
2 years ago
I wish I had not seen that demonic picture today. It makes my stomach sick. However, I offer to our much offended Lord the tears I shed in reparation to His Most Sacred Heart.
2 years ago
All this shows that Man is still a Barbarian, especially so the case with the Elites, the learned people with all their Doctorates , Phd's , arts & awards thinking themselves to be gods, but foolishness unto God, cause The Truth of the Spirit, the basis of the physical, eludes them.
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PSALM 79A Dirge and a Prayer for Israel, Destroyed by Enemies A Psalm of Asaph. 1 O God, the nations have come into Your inheritance;Your holy temple they have defiled;They have laid Jerusalem in heaps. 2 The dead bodies of Your servantsThey have given as food for the birds of the heavens,The flesh of Your saints to the beasts of the earth. 3 Their blood they have shed like water all around Jerusalem,And there was no one to bury them. 4 We have become a reproach to our neighbors,A scorn and derision to those who are around us. 5 How long, Lord?Will You be angry forever?Will Your jealousy burn like fire? 6 Pour out Your wrath on the nations that do not know You,And on the kingdoms that do not call on Your name. 7 For they have devoured Jacob,And laid waste his dwelling place. 8 Oh, do not remember former iniquities against us!Let Your tender mercies come speedily to meet us,For we have been brought very low. 9 Help us, O God of our salvation,For the glory of Your name;And deliver us, and provide atonement for our sins,For Your name's sake! 10 Why should the nations say,"Where is their God?"Let there be known among the nations in our sightThe avenging of the blood of Your servants which has been shed. 11 Let the groaning of the prisoner come before You;According to the greatness of Your powerPreserve those who are appointed to die; 12 And return to our neighbors sevenfold into their bosomTheir reproach with which they have reproached You, O Lord. 13 So we, Your people and sheep of Your pasture,Will give You thanks forever;We will show forth Your praise to all generations. Could not Open the LogFileName: '../../bible/logs/2015_01_jan_log.txt'cannot find, try: Psalms 76:2 ( NKJV Notes ) Could not Open the LogFileName: '../../bible/logs/2015_01_jan_log.txt' NKJV Copyright


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A few interesting posts turned up on the blogs these past few days. The Super Furry Animals love continues, and Harri writes, "On first listen it sounded good, but maybe little bland by SFA's lofty standards; by the 4th or 5th listen I realised how much depth it actually has. Another SFA classic then, in my opinion - here's hoping one of the two on the way is the long lost techno record!"
Meanwhile, there's some indie vs mainstream battlelines being drawn over the new Rilo Kiley album. Jess Harris writes, "Rilo Kiley might not be ashamed of "Under the Blacklight," but as a long-time fan of the band, I truly am. Instead of just being distributed under Brute/Beaute Records through Warner Brothers, they've now signed directly with Warner, using Mike Elizondo as a producer - the same Elizondo who has worked with 50 Cent and Jay-Z."
Well I love Jay-Z, so that's a good thing to me (though - easy! - "Under The Blacklight" is far from a hip hop record). More saliently, it's worth mentioning that Elizondo produced Fiona Apple's fine "Extraordinary Machine". And surely Warner Brothers is Warner Brothers? Who cares what it says on the label?
Nick R wants some Boredoms recommendations. I'd start with "Vision Create Newsun", then "Super AE", then "Seadrum/House Of Sun". I also wrote about the reissue of "Super Roots 7" here. "Super Roots 9" is out in Japan - a live album, by all accounts. When I track it down, I'll let you all know.
Since yesterday, we've been pretty immersed in a fantastic 4CD box set from Rhino called "Love Is The Song We Sing: San Francisco Nuggets 1965-1970". It's a brilliant history of the city's music, as raw garage bands and folk-rockers gradually evolve into something more psychedelic and outre.
Fabulous music notwithstanding, it's interesting to note how societal change and the birth of the hippies actually outpaced the musical revolution: while their gigs were transcendent events, The Grateful Dead were still recording punchy, economical ramalams like "The Golden Road". Even "Dark Star", customarily a 20-minute quicksilver freak-out, managed to be condensed into an airy, pithy single.
Listening to this amazing comp, it seems as if Grace Slick's Great Society might have been the first band to move into something thicker, eastern-influenced and definably psychedelic, although Country Joe's instrumental "Section 43" is a revelation. We can safely call that one trippy, I think.
It's going to take a while to digest everything here, so I'll try and come back to it in the next week or two. This morning, though, I'm enjoying Fifty Foot Hose's "Red The Sign Post" and Blue Cheer's "Fool", as you might imagine, plus strange new finds like The Vejtables' ghostly, muted take on garage rock, "Anything", and The Otherside's frantic, overdriven "Sidecar". Oh and "Omaha", and "White Rabbit" and "Get Together". . .


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(b) Australian Interests and Policy The existence of some international body to determine the lines on which international trade shall be conducted seems to offer considerable advantages to Australia. Such a body would almost inevitably increase the influence of small and middle-sized countries, giving them a voice in decisions and enabling them to play an important part in affairs from which they would otherwise tend to be excluded. Without it, important decisions would be made by the giants in concert or small countries would be grouped around and dominated by them. The embryonic I.T.O. Charter bears far more imprint of Australian ideas than other instruments of economic policy which also affect the whole world, like the U.S.- U.K. Loan Agreement.
From the economic stand-point Australia is highly dependent on international trade. Only through this medium can many of our industries be kept working and the living standards of our people maintained. Order rather than cut-throat chaos suits our purposes and our resources. Our interests lie especially along the lines of flexible multi-lateral trade. Our old markets are located mainly in United Kingdom and Europe, the relative world economic importance of which are declining. The population of Western Europe will begin to decline sharply within a few years and this will limit its need for our foodstuffs. Our main avenues of development, particularly for the export of manufactured goods, point in new directions. Even in regard to foodstuffs the fiscal policies of the United States are likely to prevent their becoming a very large net importer of foodstuffs within a relatively short time. It would be foolish to allow old habits of thought to hide all signposts to the future. in such a changing world it is important for us to be able to meet our future customers regularly round the conference table to discuss our reciprocal needs and wishes.
We have a particularly strong interest in the maintenance of a high and stable demand for our export products. The employment provisions of the Charter, though necessarily somewhat nebulous, are an important psychological factor as well as an 'escape' clause. They underline the source of demand for exports and emphasise the bad neighbourliness of allowing preventable unemployment. The 'commodity' provisions of the Charter should also assist in removing some of the instability from which we have suffered in the past.
One of the main planks of Australian policy is industrialisation and full development of our resources. The original I.T.O.
proposals might have resulted in certain aspects of this policy being called into question but the Charter as it is now emerging stresses the importance of such policies in ultimately furthering world prosperity, subject of course, to reasonable safeguards.
Considerable publicity has been given to the question of imperial preference. From Australia's point of view this is probably much more significant psychologically than materially, especially when considered over the whole range of the Australian economy rather than from the standpoint of a particular industry. Preference is not to be abolished, however, but only reduced in respect of particular items as an offset to concessions granted by other countries. Apart from negotiated reductions the Charter permits its preservation intact.
Imperial preference is nevertheless to be frozen by the Charter against future extension, and the Charter will prevent preferences remaining after the conclusion of the present tariff negotiations from being increased. At first sight this may appear a concession by British countries. Actually the opposite is nearer the truth.
The status quo is to be preserved for us and no other member countries may initiate preference systems between themselves, except under the close supervision of the Organisation. As several South American and Middle Eastern countries have been considering such moves the Charter provisions are in essence a gain for us-a fact which they have not been slow to point out.
Another important interest of Australia is that of being able to protect her economy as far as possible against the impact of adverse world conditions when international measures fail, without incurring odium elsewhere or provoking retaliation. This is provided for by the Charter. The I.T.O. itself would moreover provide for a forum for expressing our views and explaining our position in such circumstances.
Membership of the I.T.O. would inevitably entail giving up our freedom of action in many directions until the Organisation had been consulted. In return other countries would have to do the same in matters affecting us. The whole process is essentially one of give and take in the evolution of some kind of order in international trading relationships. A number of parties in Australia could be adversely affected, though not, it is safe to say, seriously in the case of any important established industry.
Considerable criticism can be expected, however, and eventual decision as to membership can only be made by weighing up the pros and cons. For better or worse I.T.0. is likely to be the only attempt to establish an international body in the trade sphere in this generation. If it is set up Australian interests will be markedly influenced whether we go in or stay out.
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(c) Concessions Offered to Other Countries The value of Australia's import trade from the 15 other countries represented at the current negotiations in Geneva is equivalent to 87% of the total imports in 1938/39. No direct tariff negotiations will be undertaken with Canada and New Zealand, whose trade with Australia represented approximately 10% of total imports.
The requests for tariff concessions made by the remaining countries represented on the Preparatory Committee cover the whole range of the Customs Tariff. It has been necessary, therefore, to examine the probable effects on Australian industries of any reductions in existing tariff levels, and also the effects which any narrowing of preference margins now enjoyed by Empire countries may have in diverting trade from those countries to other sources of supply.
In meeting requests from other countries, it has been the aim of the Cabinet Sub-Committee to reduce extreme levels of duties, rather than to make big reductions in individual items. The reductions tentatively authorised will safeguard consumer interests and at the same time will secure reductions of duties against our exports.
The aim has been to offer reductions of duties in the most- favoured-nation column of the tariff to rates of from 40-45% ad valorem, with a top limit, unless in exceptional circumstances, of 50%. It is believed that the reduction of very high rates, which for the most part have remained unused, will help to direct Australian industry into economic channels.
Relatively few reductions have been made in specific rate duties, as their incidence has become less severe as a result of the big rise in world price levels.
As a general rule, rates of duty on United Kingdom goods have been reduced by 5% ad valorem, except where special considerations indicated the need for retention of existing rates. It is considered that, after taking into account the development in Australian industry over the war period, the slight reductions in the British preferential rates should be generally beneficial.
Australian costs to-day compare very favourably with costs in other countries and, while this position continues, the reductions authorised will make little if any difference. The removal of excessive duties will, however, tend to direct productive effort into those lines which can be produced in Australia without imposing extravagant costs upon consumers.
The tariff offers that have been tentatively authorised by Cabinet Sub-Committee are being provisionally negotiated only when reciprocal reductions on the duties operating against Australian exports can be secured. Care has been taken not to offer the binding of low rates of duty where it seems likely that industrial expansion will take place in Australia during the next few years.
In many cases, the requests made on Australia have been directed towards securing the elimination or reduction of the tariff margin of preference which operates in favour of the United Kingdom, Canada and New Zealand, as the result of trade agreements between Australia and those countries. In every instance where an offer is being made which has the effect of narrowing the agreed margin of preference, the concurrence of the British country affected has first been obtained.
Although at this date the tariff negotiations have not yet reached their final stages, most of the items under request by other countries have been dealt with in the various sets of negotiations which have taken place. In terms of tariff items and sub-items under consideration in these negotiations, the results may be summarised as follows:-
Reductions in ad valorem rates Offers of reductions ranging from 5% ad valorem 20% ad valorem have been made on 71 items under the British Preferential Tariff and on 132 items under the M.F.N. Tariff. Of these 58 and 91 respectively were under 10% ad valorem. In addition, offers of reductions between 20% and 25% ad valorem have been made on 3 items under the M.F.N. Tariff.
These offers would have the effect of reducing the margin of preference on 94 items.
Reductions in specific rates Small reductions for the most part, ranging in a few cases up to one-half the existing rates, have been made on 32B.P.T. items and 80 M.F.N. items. Offers of more than one half the existing rates have been made under both the B.P. Tariff and the M.F.N. Tariff on 3 items.
Binding of existing rates has been offered on 118 items.
Retention of existing rates, but avoidance of binding A response under this heading has been made on 64 items.
Primage duties With one exception, all offers affecting customs duties have been accompanied by an offer to eliminate any primage duties associated with the items.
No offer On 288 items the Delegation has advised the representatives of the countries making requests that Australia could make no offer of tariff concessions. In some cases the requesting country was not a principal or important supplier of the goods under request, and the items have been reserved for subsequent negotiations. In other instances, reductions or bindings of existing rates would possibly have exposed Australian industries to competition which they are not able to meet.
Note Offers in respect of 309 items have not yet been made by the Delegation. These items relate mainly to requests made by the United Kingdom. Reductions in the rates of duty on a number of the items have been authorised by Cabinet Sub-Committee.
Possible losses of Empire Preference The provisions of the proposed I.T.O. Charter would operate to prevent the granting of new preferences or the increasing of existing ones. Meanwhile, in the tariff negotiations now proceeding in Geneva, requests are being made by foreign countries for the reduction or elimination of Imperial Preference on some items of export interest to Australia. In a few instances we, on our part, have sought a reduction or the elimination of the British Preference in respect of some items in Empire countries where we do not enjoy the preference (e.g. on steel in South Africa).
In so far as possible losses of preference may provide any cause for concern to Australia the U.S.A. requests for the elimination or reduction of certain preferences at present enjoyed by Australia in the U.K., Canadian and New Zealand markets are of most importance. In this connection dried fruits and canned fruits are the principal Australian products which may be affected. Our preferences on important items such as meat, butter and sugar will not be under fire in the Geneva negotiations.
The first offers to the U.S. by the United Kingdom, Canada and New Zealand have been moderate and involve in fact less reductions in our preferential margins than had been anticipated here.
However the U.S. reactions to these first offers are not yet known.
With the exception of the items mentioned above, requests by other countries, including U.S.A. which may affect the preferential position of Australia in Empire markets are not of sufficient importance to provide any cause for concern.
Any reductions in the preferential margins which Australia at present enjoys in these markets will be provisionally agreed to for the purposes of the present negotiations only if appropriate benefits to Australia are offering to at least offset them.
[matter omitted]
The foregoing report covers the major issues involved. The I.T.O.
Charter which emerges from Geneva will be tentative only and subject to change by the World Conference which meets in Havana on November 21st. In the meantime it will be open for consideration.
No decision to accept or reject it will be required till some time next year. The more immediate question is the General Agreement on Tariffs and Trade which will contain the schedule of tariff concessions. It is hoped that sufficient information will be available to submit the matter to the next meeting of Cabinet for decision as to what course of action should be taken. [1]
J.B. CHIFLEY Prime Minister Chairman of Cabinet Sub-Committee


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CA – The Rise of Aurora West Signing
September 22, 2014 by Colin Solan
Filed under California, Comic Books, Other, Science Fiction and Fantasy, Signing and Appearance Profiles
UPDATE: Unfortunately, this event has been cancelled.
Paul Pope appears at Secret Headquarters on Saturday October 4th at 7:00 PM to sign
Press Release:
Come join Secret Headquarters in celebrating the release of a great new book with one of our favorite creators!
The extraordinary world introduced in Paul Pope's Battling Boy is rife with monsters and short on heroes… but in this action-driven extension of the Battling Boy universe, we see it through a new pair of eyes: Aurora West, daughter of Arcopolis's last great hero, Haggard West.
A prequel to Battling Boy, The Rise of Aurora West follows the young hero as she seeks to uncover the mystery of her mother's death, and to find her place in a world overrun with supernatural monsters and all-too-human corruption. With a taut, fast-paced script from Paul Pope and JT Petty and gorgeous, kinetic art from David Rubin, The Rise of Aurora West (the first of two volumes) is a tour de force in comics storytelling.
Paul Pope is the acclaimed author-illustrator of Batman: Year 100, Heavy Liquid, and 100%. Known for his frenetic, high-energy artwork and action-packed, genre-bending storytelling, Pope has won three Eisner Awards. He lives and works in New York City. His first graphic novel for kids, Battling Boy, was a #1 New York Times Best-Seller.
Secret Headquarters
3817 W Sunset Blvd, Los Angeles, CA 90026
CA – The Rise of Aurora West Signing
September 2, 2014 by Colin Solan
Filed under California, Comic Books, Signing and Appearance Profiles
Paul Pope discusses and signs The Rise of Aurora West Start at Vroman's Bookstore on Wednesday October 1, 2014 at 6:30 pm!
In this prequel to Battling Boy, Paul Pope introduces us to Aurora West, the daughter of Arcopolis' only remaining hero, Haggard West. The Rise of Aurora West shares Aurora's journey to discover the mystery behind her mother's death, while figuring out her place in a strange world of the supernatural and serious corruption.
Those wishing to get books signed will be asked to purchase at least one copy of the author's most recent title from Vroman's. For each purchased copy of the newest title, customers may bring up to three copies from home to be signed. This policy applies to all Vroman's Bookstore events unless otherwise noted. Save your Vroman's receipt; it will be checked when you enter the signing line.
Vroman's Bookstore
695 E. Colorado Blvd Pasadena, CA 91101
(626) 449-5320
NYC – The Rise of Aurora West Signing
August 31, 2014 by Colin Solan
Filed under Comic Books, New York, Signing and Appearance Profiles
Eisner award-winning author and cartoonist Paul Pope appears at Housing Works Bookstore Cafe in conversation with art critic and editor Jillian Steinhauer of Hyperallergic on Tuesday, September 30th at 7:00 pm!
Housing Works Bookstore Cafe
126 Crosby St, New York, New York 10012
(212) 334-3324
PA – Triple Cartoonist Signing
June 29, 2014 by Colin Solan
Filed under Comic Books, Pennsylvania, Signing and Appearance Profiles
Cartoonists Paul Pope, Tom Scioli, and Dean Haspiel appear at Locust Moon Comics on Friday, July 18th at 7:00 pm to sign their new comics!
Locust Moon Comics and Movies
34 South 40th Street, Philadelphia, PA 19104
(267) 403-2856
NYC – Forbidden Planet Mega-Signing
June 11, 2014 by Colin Solan
Filed under Comic Books, New York, Other, Science Fiction and Fantasy, Signing and Appearance Profiles, Webcomics
PAUL POPE, DEAN HASPIEL, NICK BERTOZZI, CHRIS MISKIEWICZ, and *just added* BOB FINGERMAN all four of whom will be celebrating the release of new comics, graphic novels, and/or editions of their iconic work, appear at Forbidden Planet on Wednesday June 18, 2014 at 6:30 pm!
Purchase of Escapo from Forbidden Planet NYC is mandatory to attend the Paul Pope side of our event. Your receipt, and a voucher we will attach to it at checkout, will be your ticket to Paul's line. We anticipate a large turnout for him, and are limiting additional autographs ONE ITEM per attendee to keep things moving. Please do not bring more than that.
**If you will be here to see Dean, Nick and/or Chris we also encourage purchase of their books (and will have plenty of 'em… they're well worth it), but there will be no limit to additional autographs.
Forbidden Planet
832 Broadway, New York, NY 10003
MD – Escapo Signing
June 9, 2014 by Colin Solan
Filed under Comic Books, Maryland, Movies, Other, Science Fiction and Fantasy, Signing and Appearance Profiles
Paul Pope (BATTLING BOY, BATMAN: YEAR 100, THB, 100%) appears at Third Eye Comics on Saturday June 28th from 11:00 am – 1:00 pm for the official launch party of ESCAPO!
Third Eye Comics
2027-A West Street, Annapolis, MD 21401
(410) 897-0322
UK – Battling Boy Event
January 29, 2014 by Colin Solan
Filed under Comic Books, England, Signing and Appearance Profiles
Paul Pope appears in conversation with Comica Co-Director Paul Gravett, an aficionado since Pope's debut Sin Titulo. Tuesday February 4th 2014, doors open 6.15 for 6.30pm start, ends 8.30pm. Seating is limited so early online booking is advised!
A Comica Conversation in aid of Comica, a not-for-profit enterprise, with support from First Second/Macmillan, Melia Publishing Services & Foyles.
Foyles Gallery, 3rd Floor, Foyles Bookshop, Charing Cross Road, London WC2H 0EB
UK – Battling Boy Signing
January 17, 2014 by Colin Solan
Filed under Comic Books, England, Signing and Appearance Profiles
Come and meet the amazing Paul Pope – writer and artist of the outlandishly brilliant 'Battling Boy' – about a 12 yr old super hero, who possesses 12 t-shirts, each with the power of a different creature, but not lame creatures like a weasel or one of them annoying yapping dogs, no, it's Lions, Bulls and a T-REX's. A seriously dazzling book, full of kick-assery.
After the Leeds signing, from 6.30pm to 7.30pm, Paul will be doing a talk/workshop in the Leeds Travelling Man Lounge.
We would love to see you at any or all of these events.
Paul will be signing at three of our Travelling Man stores. Here are the details:
Manchester – Sunday 2nd February from 1pm to 3pm
York – Monday 3rd February from 1pm to 2pm
Leeds – Monday 3rd February from 4.30pm to 6pm
FL – Battling Boy Signing
November 14, 2013 by Colin Solan
Filed under Comic Books, Florida, Signing and Appearance Profiles, Top Stories
Comic creator Paul Pope appears at Tate's Comics on Tuesday, November 19, 2013 from 5:00 until 7:00pm!
Press Release:
Meet Artist & Writer Paul Pope!
Paul Pope is an Eisner award winning artist and writer of THB, Heavy Liquid, 100%, Batman Year 100, and the brand new graphic novel Battling Boy, among other things.
The purchase of each Paul Pope comic or trade, during the event on 11/19/13, guarantees you a maximum of three signatures from him on the items of your choosing.
Tate's Comics
4566 N. University Drive, Lauderhill, FL 33351
ON – Battling Boy Launch Party
September 27, 2013 by Colin Solan
Filed under Canada, Comic Books, Signing and Appearance Profiles, Top Stories
Paul Pope appears at Revival on Tuesday, October 15th, 2013 at 7:30pm to debut BATTLING BOY!
Press Release:
The Beguiling and First Second Books are proud to welcome PAUL POPE back to Toronto, to launch his brand new graphic novel series BATTLING BOY! Pope is the renowned creator of personal works including THB, 100%, and Heavy Liquid, but also takes time out to bring his unique verve and visual sophistication to a range of superhero properties in the titles Batman Year 100, Strange Tales, and Spider-Man: Tangled Web! Now he has returned with BATTLING BOY, a straight-up, kick-butt superhero book for kids and grown-ups alike, and The Beguiling and Revival will be hosting him on the evening of Tuesday, October 15th at 7PM!
BATTLING BOY is the story of a boy who must rise to the challenge of defending the super-city of Arcopolis after suffering a tremendous personal loss. An epic adventure with visual nods to classic creators including Moebius and Jack Kirby, BATTLING BOY is an ultra-contemporary take on the heroes' journey, and a stunning addition to the pantheon of young adult heroes!
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So, here's my second post in my Fall experiments theme. In this thred I'm going to post pictures of my frame construction effort.
As you can see, these are simple 2x4 spruce frames sized precisely to hold 2 large garden trays from Lee Valley. Each tray holds 24 4" pots perfectly, so 72 pots in a frame. The frame is 36" tall on the outside, allowing for ~30" of growth height. Each frame will be enclosed on all sides, including the top, with light reflecting material. My first experiment will be using tile board, 1/4" water-proof board used in shower enclosures. A single 2 bulb T5 fixture is going to be mounted in each unit. As soon as we have this one enclosed (later today) I will be doing some light meter tests to see, for example, how much difference it makes to move the light up and down or have a top piece of tile board. I am also going to try light tests with nothing on the front. If the light is sufficient, I could then have these units in my sunroom housing existing Dahlias over the winter. I will also be testing using standard T12 shop lights. Each unit will have locating posts (small pins) in the top, and corresponding holes in the bottom, so they can be stacked on top of each other. In my dinning room my plan is to have 2 stacks of 3 units. I plan on sealing each unit in such a way that any bugs in one can't travel to another (easily.) Also want to keep in humidity, but I'll have to see whether I'm holding too much. The front side will be completely removable so I can get at the plants. The entire unit can be disassembled easily (wing nuts) so it can be dismantled and stored during the summer. I could put it on wheels, but so far I haven't decided if that's a benefit for me or not. Cost-wise, each unit is running ~C$300 including the T5 lights and trays. The T5 lights are the most expensive component (~C$120) and the trays next (~C$80). Comments and/or suggestions welcome. Cheers,
Follow-Up Postings:
- Posted by sturgeonguy 5a ON (My Page) on Thu, Oct 9, 08 at 13:54
Oops, I said they hold 2 trays, but they hold 3. Cheers, |
- Posted by oscarthecat z7MD (My Page) on Thu, Oct 9, 08 at 16:07
looks great to me.KEEP ON KEEPING ON. STEVE IN BALTIMORE COUNTY |
- Posted by vikingcraftsman 6/7LINY (My Page) on Thu, Oct 9, 08 at 17:15
Really great Russ. I had the advantage to have a cage I had build years ago for my wifes Iguana. When he died I had to decide wheather to take it down or use it for something else. I added some shop lights under the two shelfs Gkar used. We had all these spot lights for Gkar. Everything worked out last year. This year will be better. I also have a 500 galon fish tank. I have a shop light over that , plus spot lights on the edge. Your idea is wonderful and will work well. |
- Posted by dahlia_newbie 9 (My Page) on Thu, Oct 9, 08 at 22:19
Russ, I love that you nonchalantly explain that you will winter two stacks of three units of dahlias in your dining room. I think it's great. and your house is great for it with all the windows, I couldn't begin to do that in my house, not enough space...but even if I could, I am pretty sure my husband would start tearing down engines and carburetors in the living room just to make a point... Nice work, and congratulations on the Mayor's excitement about your blooms! |
- Posted by sturgeonguy 5a ON (My Page) on Fri, Oct 10, 08 at 21:44
Sorry if that came across as a brag...I was just trying to explain the setup...;-] So we did light tests today. Results are discouraging, but they are what they are. The absolutely ideal goal would be 4000 foot candles. I could offer some conversions (to lux or lumens) if people want, but for now we'll stick with f.c. 4000-6000 f.c. is direct sunlight. Interestingly enough, I can get this amount of sunlight inside at various times, but only for short periods of time and only in certain spots. Generally speaking, the room is ~150 f.c. on a very sunny day. Clearly not enough. So I tried a single 4' T5 dual bulb fixture. To get 4000 f.c., I need to have the lights ~2" away from the top of the tray. I get ~1500 f.c. at 4". The spread on the light is ~2" from the bulb before you start to lose f.c. I am getting 270 f.c. in the middle of the tray when the light is 14.5" above the trays. I get 200 f.c. at the outer edge of the trays. For comparison, I put a 4' dual bulb T12 fixture in. At most, I could only get ~1000 f.c. At 14.5" I got 140 f.c. in the center and 120 f.c. at the edge. Guess the larger bulbs spread better. All this testing was done with white tile board on the sides. I had one side off, and nothing on top. Adding a top piece made no difference, and my readings where there was a board on the side versus the side that didn't have one were the same. IOWs, the white tile board adds nothing. I then added tin foil on top of the tile board (just the area below the lights.) Tin foil, somewhat wrinkled, added a lot. I got 400 f.c. in the center, and 400 f.c. at the edge. So clearly having sides, with some sort of reflective material, makes a big difference. This was essentially the same as doubling the light fixtures. With 2 x 4' double bulb T5's I got 350 f.c. So, now its back to the drawing board a little... Cheers, |
Russ, In the spirit of experimentation, I'm offering to be your humpback assistant. I don't know what the ceiling of your sunroom looks like but unless you have natural sunlight coming through the ceiling I think it's pretty hard to replicate the light you'd get in a green house . I kind of expected you would get those light readings. If you want to stick with use of T5's, it's still possible to get the 4000 fc you are looking for, with a few adjustments, however. You probably already know this but the type of reflector does make quite a bit of difference. The thing with tin foil is, the more FLAT you can get it, the more effectively it will serves its purpose. Another option is to get reflective mylar at a hydroponics store. There's also debate on whether a white reflector or aluminum reflector works better. Also, any reflector is better than no reflector. Have you tried out one of those T5 fixtures with the german aluminum reflectors? You can get 4000fc with one of these fixtures. A 4 feet 8 tube New Wave T5 fixture with the aluminum reflector will give you 3600fc at 11 inches under the tubes. This was a light reading done with a reliable light meter by a member at an orchid forum elsewhere. If you want to cover a bigger area with less fixtures you'd have to go with a high pressure sodium fixture or metal halide. These will give off a lot more heat compared to fluorescent tubes though. However, they can be placed much higher above the plants. I hope you're successful with this experiment and I'm cheering for you! |
- Posted by vikingcraftsman 6/7LINY (My Page) on Fri, Oct 10, 08 at 23:39
All right linht thanks for jumping in. I will be lining my greenhouse (GKar's) cage with aluminum foil. |
- Posted by sturgeonguy 5a ON (My Page) on Sat, Oct 11, 08 at 10:40
Linht, Thanks!! According to an online hydroponics site, the growing area for a 4' 4-tube New Wave T5 HO fixture is 4' x 2.5'. That's almost exactly my growing space in each cabinet. The growing area for the 8-tube unit is 4' x 4', more than I need. I would like to assume that I should be able to achieve 3600fc at 11" with the 4-tube unit in my space. I compared the price of single unit fixtures ($49) with reflectors ($30) to multiple tube units (4-tube=$395), and funny enough, there's a considerable difference. I can save ~$80 per cabinet and all I have to do is cut a couple of 2"x4" to attach the 4 fixtures and hangers to. I am going to get 4 German aluminum reflectors as an experiment. I will see if there's a difference with them, and if so, how much. I am now planning on making a canopy with the fixtures attached. The canopy will be a piece of board covered with 2mm reflective Mylar film. My thinking is that this should be almost as effective as aluminum reflectors, and considerably cheaper. I'll use 2mm Mylar reflective film (~$1.06/foot) on all sides as well. That should make the entire cabinet reflective under the lights. As I already have 6 double T5 HO fixtures, this will do for 3 cabinets. For the other 3 cabinets I'll get single T5 HO fixtures so I can more evenly space them across the space. The additional lights certainly add to the cost per cabinet, but not having to use board on all sides has reduced the cost at the same time. With 4 T5 single-tube fixtures, without reflectors, the cost before tax is now ~$335/cabinet. With reflectors the cost is ~$455. Using my current price for electricity ($0.114/kwh) each cabinet will cost ~$0.35/day to run. So now I have to get the materials to make the next set of light tests. Viking, FWIW, the Mylar is more expensive than tin foil but it does have distinct advantages. Firstly, it doesn't ripple the way tin foil does, and is less likely to tear. This should mean it will yield a more even surface to reflect light, and be easier to work with. Also, you can get it in 4' wide rolls. It claims it has 98% reflectivity, which is higher than even panda plastic. Cheers, |
Russ, I've never heard of panda plastic but it sounds scary to me. Unfortunately the 4 tube 4ft fixture will not give you anywhere near the 3600 fc at 11 inches under the tubes because it's only 4 tubes, thus, less light. I have a light meter that's given nicely accurate measurements. You know all those James Bond gadgets you have?? Well this is one of mine, hehe. I forked out a lot of dough for this meter because, yes, I am that crazy when it comes to my orchids. So.....I did some measurements for you. You said you want to use the 4 ft 4 tube fixtures, right? I have a New Wave 4ft 4 tube fixture and this is the reading I got. These have the angled german aluminum reflectors built in. My grow area under the lights is NOT encased so I am not using any reflective material on the sides. For brand spankin' new tubes (not one that've been in use for 6 months), 3600 fc is what I got about 4 inches under the tubes on that fixture. Of course, if it didn't have the reflector, it would be considerably less. The only way to get 3600 fc 11 inches under the tubes is to use a 4 ft 8 tube fixture. Hope this helps! |
- Posted by sturgeonguy 5a ON (My Page) on Sun, Oct 12, 08 at 8:47
Linht, Thanks very much. I've no problems keeping the tops of the plants within 4" of the bulbs, or closer even. We'll just have to see how the already blooming Dahlias do. Right now I'm actually more worried about what will happen when I take the plants out of the ground and move them inside, cutting roots and possibly tubers in the process. Hopefully they won't go into too much shock. Cheers, |
Hey Folks, if you want to laugh your a** off watch a movie called 'Saving Grace'. It is British and hilarious. It has an indoor growing theme. |
Here is a link that might be useful: Saving Grace movie trailer.
- Posted by sturgeonguy 5a ON (My Page) on Sat, Oct 18, 08 at 16:27
Well, more updates. I have the 6 cabinets built and positioned in their place, here's a picture: Each cabinet also has a door (actually, just another side panel that slides into a couple of rails.) I'm pretty much done with the light experiments. 4 x 4' T5's with reflectors inside the mylar lined cabinet: 4 x 4' T5's with mylar laid flat above the lights inside the mylar lined cabinet: 4 x 4' T5's with mylar laid in a "W" pattern to simulate reflectors inside the mylar lined cabinet: So I'm going with the "W" patterned mylar, given the reflectors are $30 each ($120/cabinet.) Here's the light rig with reflectors. Cheers, |
- Posted by vikingcraftsman 6/7LINY (My Page) on Sat, Oct 18, 08 at 18:05
Boy Russ you have done a really nice job. I see you are a fellow woodworker. I am doing paneles this week for my flower boxes. John |
You know,, people don't understand how dedicated we are. I get in trouble by telling [people I can't go away for a weekend because I am watching the dahlias! They think I am nuts. Well they are gone now. Good work. Wish I had your room. |
- Posted by sturgeonguy 5a ON (My Page) on Mon, Oct 20, 08 at 17:37
Here's a composite picture of my light fixtures. Top Left: This is the top of the fixture. If you look closely, you'll see the slats on edge that run left to right to force the mylar to enclose the light fixture. Bottom Left: This is a fixture using double-bulb fixtures. I had 3 8' fixture that were made up of 2 of these double-bulb units. They aren't going to give as even light as the single fixture units, but I wasn't going to buy a bunch more just for that. Right: Here you can see how the mylar makes the "W" shape around the single fixtures. If I was going to make more, I'd make them like this. As I mentioned, I get slight better foot candle output from these than from the ones with the "german" reflectors that were $30 each. Tomorrow, I hope, everything is finally done. Cheers, |
- Posted by vikingcraftsman 6/7LINY (My Page) on Mon, Oct 20, 08 at 19:54
Really nice work Russ. I started assembly on my new flower box today. I am working very slowly. I am hoping to make about 6 new boxes for next year. |
- Posted by sturgeonguy 5a ON (My Page) on Fri, Oct 24, 08 at 20:53
So I found a neat new toy from a company called UPM, its the EM100 Energy Meter. You plug it into a wall outlet and then plug in anything you want to meter into it. In my case I have all of my lights for my Dahlias plugged into it to see how much power they're consuming. 24 x 54 watt T5 bulbs for 14 hours = 15.5kwhr = $1.77/day (in our area.) If you ever wondered just how much something was costing you in electricity charges...its a great way to find out. Cheers, |
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