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Have You Ever Got Your Hair Cut At a Salon?
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Ha! I;ll answer this 5 years later..... I did go to a ladies beauty shop when I was 17...
The elderly beauticians would give me a lengthy shampoo first .. and send me off to my stylist.. Embarrassing at first.. I really looked forward afterwards to these ladies washing my hair..
i have always had my haircut in a salon! i also work in one and i absolutely love it!
I am letting my hair grow longer and now cut my own hair. When I was active in business, my professional carreer, I would go to a salon to get styled.
Yeah.

Big mistake- she went all trendy on me, dyed it a strange color, and cut it to look like Mrs. Brady. and charged almost $100.

I prefer Supercuts- cheap and simple

Yeah, and I'm one of the only men who goes into this salon, too.

Kind of embarrassing but I met the girl who cuts my hair when she worked at a more 'unisex' type of haircutting place. When she quit there and moved into a salon, primarily for women....hispanic women, at that.....well, I followed her.

Now I live across town, but I still drive over there. She's nice. She's cheap. She makes my big pointy head look not so pointy. Also, I can afford to tip her pretty good. This makes me feel good.

Also, when I mention my slight balding spot that's kind of new, she always laughs and tells me it looks distinguished. The girl is a natural at customer relations.

yes I have.. bur I don't anymore.. they looks like a ? when I describe how I want it to look so now days my mom cuts it for me.. =)

She's so much better then them!

no matter how good at things other people are mom will always be the best!!

Yes, and I cut hair in a salon also!

Yes, but I miss old school barber shops.

I go to a barber shop now...but how funny I miss the old school beauty shops!..
As a teenager I went there to my stylist and the assistants, mostly semi retired or retired elderly ladies always took me first and gave me a great shampoo .... nothing else compared to the way those women did it.

yes but not anymore they don't clean there shears

Yes, I do, I like it, because they know how I look better

yes, when I was old enough to stop my mom and grandma from doing it themselves, I would only get my hair cut by a professional.

Last time though, I cut it myself. It was only a trim, so I didn't think it was worth it to spend the money; and my hair has gotten quite long, so if I really screwed it up I could just have someone fix it and no one would even notice that I'd done anything to it.

Where else would you get a hair cut?

Yes!!! that is the only place I go to get a professional hair cut.

 Oh yes, I go in there with a pic, also go to the same woman, so she knows me, because I have had people get crazy on me lol.

I love the la<x>yered look. Thats what I have. I am growing a longer la<x>yer though, which is easy once it is la<x>yered, right? I do have to go for a trim like tomorrow at the latest uugghh It always worries me she will do something strange, I think they have too much control. lmao

Hey! Hey! LOOK at me! Look at the picture? Seriously, do you think this doo happens without salon magic?

What a strange question. Is there anybody here who *hasn't* had their hair cut at a salon?

Yep, first time in my life in 2008 I went to a salon and got it la<x>yered and then went back and got it cut above the collar. It looks really nice now, well it does when I take the flat iron to it, but I'm lazy.

Nothing exciting...

yes, every 6 weeks. Did a guy write this question? Salon..Beauty Shop..same thing. Barber shops are or still may be mostly for men.As a child, my dad's barber would cut our hair.It was fun to go in there.That was 1956 and Barbers were a man's best friend.

A long long time ago, i got my hair done at a JC Penny Salon to get my hair colored. It was silly, and I like my shaved head too much to do it again.

not any more. I have a 16 yr. old neice who's been cutting my hair for the last year and a half. she does an ecellent job!

Without fail. Great stylist keeps the mane presentable--so that's one tiny thing I don't worry about.

Yes, I go to a salon. It's a very good one, and since it's in a small town it's reasonably priced, and is always full laughter, gossip and people who know each other. I wouldn't ever DARE cut my own hair! And none of my friends can cut hair either! When you are 60+ but still have good hair and it's pretty much your last asset, salon cuts are de rigeur!

Yes I have ever since I was about 12.

Although I now think I should go more often since I only go twice a year :P.

The last time I went I first got a cut and 2 hours later while my mom was having her hair dyed at the same salon I decided I was going to get a dyed the same day :P.

Many times. I started going to a salon in my late teens or early twenties, and gave up barbers who seemed to cut everybody"s hair exactly the same I havent been in since 2004 because I started wearing my hair buzzed, and my girlfriend (now my wife) began cutting it for me.

On the day my then wife (now ex) moved out to live with her married "other man" I died my hair blonde using a kit in the bathroom. That night, while cruising the local bar, I got all kinds of attention from young girls who swore I was 15 years younger than my actual age....I was 39 and they guess me at 24-25...(obviously I ate up the attention because my ex had just left me for some other dude.....but did leave me with our children).

The next day my ex saw my blonde hair and I told her about the girls telling me how young I looked. I also told her I was not exactly happy with the color so I was going to a salon to have it re-colored.....she told me I need to just have it dyed back to black and skip the mid-life crisis blonde.

Two days later, I was in the salon when my then wife (who was now living with her married boyfriend) called and I told her I was in the salon having my hair redyed......she asked if I was having it colored back to black and I told her no, I was only having it done properly as a blonde. She asked why I was keeping it blonde and I told her that I liked the attention I got in the bar from the girls telling me I looked like I was in my early to mid 20's..................she screamed "THOSE ARE DRUNKEN WOMEN IN A DARK BAR!!!!!".......you also have to understand that this women was extremely jealous when I began dating after she moved out.

Someone later told me that since I got such an angry reaction out of my ex..........it was priceless!!!....LOL

yes many times my best friend was a hair stylist now I have a caregiver who does my hair now but its long and love it when she braids it.

Is it not normal to go to a salon?! I go every six weeks! Went last Saturday in fact.

I gotten my haircut at the hardware store.

Yes i have gone to a salon to get a hair cut.

I do not go that often.

The salons are very expensive.

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I would like to see them together only after the first 3 feet. I'd prefer to see them individually and then gradually grow together on 2 separate trellises. I'm thinking of leaving 18" between them when planting to achieve this goal. Is that too close? Too far apart? They are all type II - Dr. Ruppel, Miss Bateman, Bees Jubilee, Ramona, Elsa Spath, Guernsey Cream, Niobe. Thanks!
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One of the Bible's greatest truths is that when we come to Christ and commit our lives to Him, He comes to live within us by His Holy Spirit. In fact, the Bible warns, "If anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he does not belong to Christ" (Romans 8:9). If you know Jesus, the Holy Spirit already lives within you — whether you feel His presence or not.
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Don't try to live the Christian life in your own strength; if you do, you will only fail. Instead, trust the Holy Spirit to give you the wisdom and strength you need.
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Iraqi Air Force since 1948, Part 2
By Tom Cooper
Sep 13, 2003, 18:14
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I Persian Gulf War
For the IrAF the invasion of Iran came at the time it was in the middle of receiving a total of 240 new aircraft and helicopters from the USSR, as well as expecting the arrival of the first 16 Dassault Mirage F.1EQs from France.
In reaction to the Iraqi invasion, and expecting the war to last only a few weeks, both the Soviets and the French stopped delivery of additional aircraft to Iraq, and re-started it only in December 1980.
Consequently, the IrAF had to fight the first few months of the war with actually obsolete or poorely equipped types. It was still heavily dependable on the MiG-21, which was no match for either the Iranian F-4 Phantoms or F-14 Tomcats. Iraqis hoped that their MiG-23s could even the match to a degree, but the type suffered immense losses: betwen 13 September 1980 and 31 January 1981 no less but 40 were shot down. Consequently, it was the Su-20/22 series that silently developed into the Iraqi "battle wagon": although never sufficiently well-equipped the Sukhois were gradually upgraded and became the first Iraqi fighters equipped with stand-off precision-guided ammunition, in turn bearing the brunt of the attrition war against Iran.
The official stars of the Iraqi Air Force, however, became MiG-25s and Mirage F.1EQs, which began flying combat operations from spring and autumn 1981, respectivelly. The Mirages and Foxbats were later during the war to fly some particularly spectacular operations against Iran. The fact that both types suffered considerable losses to Iranian interceptors - even when flown by foreign mercenaries and "advisors" - was largely neglected in the public.
Neglected was also the fact that the Soviets deployed a number of their "top" combat aircraft and weapons systems (flown by some of their best pilots) to Iraq for combat testing against Iran. These included Tu-22KD/KDP bombers, equipped with Kh-22M/MP (AS-4 Kitchen) air-to-ground missiles; MiG-23MLDs, equipped with R-23 and R-24 missiles; MiG-25RBs; MiG-25RBTs, equipped with Kh-25 air-to-ground missiles; MiG-25BMs, equipped with Kh-25 and Kh-58 anti-radar missiles; and even MiG-27s, equipped with Kh-29L/T missiles. Given that most of these proved only marginally succesuful, but that all types also suffered considerable and sometimes embarassing losses, it is not surprising that there was little interest to publicise these deployments.
The same can be said about the French support for Iraq, which intensified from 1983, when five Super Etendard strike fighters were leased to IrAF. At least two, and possibly even three, of these were shot down by Iranian interceptors. Given that this deal caused a considerable uproar in the public, as well as that by 1985 the Super Etendard was in competition with Italo-Brazilian AMX and the Fiat G.91 as a light tactical fighter for the NATO air forces, the French were never interested to publicise much about this deployment. Their reporting about the combat experiences of Iraqi Mirage F.1EQs was similar: the fact that no less but 50 out of 113 examples delivered were lost during the battles with the "non-existing" Iranian air force was certainly nothing that could be used in commercials.
Due to such and similar reasons the air warfare between Iraq and Iran was for long time one of the most poorely researched topics in the history of modern wars at all.
Iraq ordered no less but 140 MiG-23MS in 1973, but these orders were soon cut-down to only 20, after the type proved a disappointment in service. This example served with the 23rd Fighter Squadron early during the war with Iran, before being assigned to the 84th FS, in early 1982. In December of the same year it was flown by a defector to Vahdati AB, in Iran: the IrAF realized what happened with this aircraft and - as the Iranians failed to tow it to one of nearby HAS' - only several hours later it was destroyed while on tarmac of Vahdati.
From 1981 the IrAF received four Tu-22Ks and between 200 and 300 Kh-22M and Kh-22MP (AS-4) missiles. By 1986 at least three of these were lost in combat, and the Kh-22s proved a failure in combat.
The Soviets were very slow to supply Mi-24s (actually: MiG-25s, the down-graded export variant of the Mi-24D) to Iraq: in 1980, only between six and eight examples were delivered, of which four were lost to Iranians by the end of the year. This example belonged to the third batch of Mi-25s supplied to Iraq in 1986, and was noticed in action in the same year. All Iraqi Mi-25s were operated by the 4th Squadron/1st Wing of Iraqi Army Aviation Corps (IrAAC), not by the IrAF.
It remains unclear when the IrAF purchased its first MiG-23MFs, but there are indications that a Soviet-controlled unit of either MiG-23Ms or MiG-23MLDs was operational in Iraq already in October 1980, as well as that an IrAF unit equipped with the MiG-23MF was operational in 1982. They were easy to distinguish from later - and more modern - MiG-23MLs by their darker camouflage pattern.
The IrAF started getting its first su-22M-3Ks from 1976. These saw extensive service early during the war with Iran, and were - from 1982 - also equipped to carry Kh-23 and Kh-25 air-to-ground missiles. This aircraft, "1574" was shot down by Iranian MIM-23Bs on 12 February 1986, near al-Faw, in southern Iraq. The pilot attempted to eject shortly before the crash, but the seat only partially deployed before the plane hit the ground.
Iraq had a long tradition of operating bombers already since the 1930s. In 1962 this tradition was renewed when the first out of eventual eight Tu-16 bombers were delivered from the USSR. Six of these remained operational at the times of the Six Day War, when only two out of four sent to attack Tel Nov AB reached Israel, one missing completely, while the other - the lead aircraft - was shot down by the Israelis. Six new Tu-16K-11-16s were delivered by the USSR in 1972, but they did not take part in the war with Israel in 1973. Instead, the surviving aircraft saw extensive service during the war with Iran, when they were used not only for launching cruise-missile attacks or bombings, but also as chaff-bombers and stand-off jammers. In late 1987 Iraq also purchased four H-6D bombers from China. The type eventually suffered extensive losses during this war, and only a handfull of Tu-16s and H-6Ds survived: except one all were destroyed by US strikes against the al-Taqaddum AB, in January 1991.
In October 1983, in the frame of the Operation "Sugar", France leased five Super Etendards to Iraq. The aircraft entered service in March 1984 and were used exclusively for anti-shipping strikes against tankers underway along the Iranian side of the Persian Gulf. At least two were shot down and a third claimed by Iranian interceptors during the spring and summer of 1984. It seems that one was indeed shot down, while another was damaged and crashed on landing back in Iraq. The Iraqis definitely returned only three Super Etendards to France, including the example shown here.
Starting in April 1981 the IrAF received a total of 32 Mirage F.1EQ and F.1EQ-2s. Although designed as multi-role fighters, these were used almost exclusively as interceptors - albeit with far less success than frequently claimed by French and British sources. Quite on the contrary, their first combat deployment - in December 1981 - can only be described as a desaster, as between four and six were shot down in a series of engagements with IRIAF F-14As, most of which happened over Kuwait!
From the standpoint of usual reporting about the war between Iraq and Iran, IrAF's Mirage F.1EQ-5s, equipped with advanced Cyrano IV-M radar and AM.39 Exocet missiles, deployed for anti-ship operations inside the Persian Gulfs, were definitely the "stars" of this war. In fact, the IrAF experienced extensive technical problems with the type early during its combat career, problems with the reliability of the AM.39 Exocet missile, problems with the lack of pre- and post-strike reconnaissance, and heavy losses in 1988: during a two short engagements on the same day in February of that year, a single IRIAF F-14A shot down three Mirage F.1EQ-5s in quick succession. Despite much publicity, Iraqi anti-ship operations remain an unknown quality: due to the Iranians moving their tankers in convoys, protected by warships and interceptor aircraft, the Iraqis had over the time to considerably improve their tactics and diversify their means. Consequently, during the final 12 months of the war the IrAF Mirages were not fighting this war any more - but more frequently they were involved in operations that saw a combination of formations consisting of MiG-25s, MiG-23s, Su-20/22s - and even Tu-22Bs. Despite considerable losses, such formations were able to offer better mutual suport to each other - regardless if by ECM-systems or by shock and confusion they would frequently cause.
This MiG-23MS was also shot down by Iranian MIM-23B I-HAWK SAMs on 12 February 1986, near al-Faw, in southern Iraq: together with the Su-22M-3K shown above, it was one of nine Iraqi fighters confirmed shot down by the same IRIAF SAM-site on that morning.
Just like the arrival of the first MiG-23MFs, the time at which the Iraqis have got their first MiG-23MLs remains unknown. According to results of most recent researches, the IrAF had at least a squadron of MiG-23MLs based at Qayyarah West AB, already in September/October 1980. It is possible that these aircraft were former mounts of a Soviet AF unit deployed at Shoibiyah AB, in early 1980 (months before the Iraqi invasion of Iran), to escort and defend the Soviet-flown MiG-25s deployed at the same air base.
The fast and poweful MiG-25 remained the most successful Iraqi interceptor also after the war with Iran: on the first night of the IIPGW, an Iraqi MiG-25 shot down a USN F/A-18C Hornet, and in December 2002 another Foxbat shot down a USAF RQ-1B Predator UAV, armed with Stinger missiles. Although the MiG-21 remained the favourite fighter-jet of the IrAF pilots, the brute power (both, that of the engines and that of the radar, which proved very problematic to jam) and confortable cockpit were appreciated by all of their Foxbat-pilots.
The appearance of the Su-25K in Iraqi service remains a sort of a mystery. Although Russian and the Ukrainian reports claim that over 80 aircraft were delivered between 1985 and 1989, that these saw extensive service during the later stages of the war against Iran, especially in 1988, and that a number of Iraqi Su-25-pilots were highly decorated by Saddam Hussein personally, in fact only one squadron is known to have been equipped with the type in 1986, and the other became operational only after the war with Iran. According to Iranian reports - some of which can be confirmed by pictorial evidence - the Su-25 was a rare appearance over the battlefield even in 1988: only two were ever encountered in air combat, one was shot down (there are photographs of the wreckage) and two badly damaged by ground fire. In 1991 seven were flown out to Iran, where they were subsequently taken over by the IRGCAF, while in 2003 the US forces captured only a handfull of Su-25s. Consequently, it is likely that Iraq eventually ordered over 80 Su-25s, or stated intention to do so, but it is unlikely that more than 30 were indeed delivered.
1990: Invasion of Kuwait, and the II Persian Gulf War, in 1991
In August 1990 the IrAF was one of the most powerful air forces in the whole Middle East. Theoretically, it should have been hardened by the long war with Iran, boasting over 500 combat aircraft, flown and maintained by highly experienced personnel. In fact, already at the time the first post-war purges hit the whole service, as the Iraqi regime struggled to bring it back under total control: training was brought to the minimum during the whole 1990, the IrAF fighters seldom flying more than 100 sorties a day as most of the operations again were not to be conducted without the permission from the top of the regime.
Eventually, during the short but fierce war against Kuwait the IrAF was back to its pre-1986 performance: although striking in large formations - like against Iran, in 1988 - it nevertheless failed to neutralize the Kuwaiti Air Force and air defence installations, or properly support own ground troops. Instead, especially the Iraq Army Air Corps suffered heavy losses in helicopters when these attempted to deploy commandos into the Kuwait City.
This "Dusty Weasel", an Su-22UM-3K, was flown out to Iran in February 1991: the aircraft was damaged by Iranian air defenses, but the pilot managed a safe landing. During the war with Iran, Su-22UM-3Ks were deployed extensively in combat, and foremost used by strike leaders, or as SEAD-assets - like the example here, shown carrying a Kh-28M/Nissin-M (Iraqi designation) - or AS-9 - anti-radar missile.
This Su-22M-4K is one from the batch of some 60 aircraft supplied to Iraq in 1986 and 1987, which was lucky enough to survive both, the long war with Iran, and then also the Coalition air strikes during the II Persian Gulf War. The aircraft was flown out to Iran, and seen for the last time at Hamedan AB, in April 1991.
By 1991 the surviving 50 Mirage F.1EQs were the most important interceptors of the IrAF. Although originally designed as multi-role fighters, and despite the fact that meanwhile the whole fleet was upgraded to a standard similar to the Mirage F.1EQ-6 - i.e. one that enable the aircraft not only the use of the AM.39 Exocet and AS.30L missiles, but also the Soviet-built Kh-29T/L guided bombs - once again during the II Persian Gulf War they were foremost used as interceptors. Operating alone, with poor GCI-support and mainly by night, however, Iraqi pilots had little chance against the USAF F-15s, supported by E-3A Sentry AWACS and EC-135 ELINT-gatherers.
This MiG-21MF was captured by US troops at Tallil AB, in March 1999. It is a highly interesting example, not only because of its serial but ever more so because it wore a kill marking for an unknown Iranian aircraft shot down sometimes during the long war in the 1980s. The US troops made only one poor photograph of this aircraft before it was completely destroyed.
The plan for the invasion of Kuwait included a large commando operation which was to see the capture of the Emir: commandos were to be deployed directly into the city with the help of helicopters. The operation failed to a large degree, however, as the helicopters were intercepted by several Kuwaiti Air Force Mirage F.1CKs as well as by SAMs, and suffered horrendous losses.
This MiG-23BN, "23160", was lucky enough to survive the long war with Iran, and then the fighting against Kuwait, in August 1990, but it was disabled by US air strikes against Tallil AB, in January 1991, and then cannibalized for spares. It was found by US troops at Tallil dump, in April 2003 again, by when the middle section of the fuselage was the largest remaining piece of it.
Control Operations over Iraq, 1991-2002, and the III Persian Gulf War, in 2003
After the defeat and a massive loss of aircraft during the IIPGW, the IrAF was reduced to a pale shade of its former might, and further weakened by additional series of purges, in 1992, 1993, and 1995. Two large-scale reorganizations, in 1992 and 1999, were not to help improve combat readiness. In fact, it was not before 1992 that that the IrAF Training Command started functioning again, and subsequently the pilots were spending up to 80% of their service with political indoctrination courses - instead with flying and learning about their aircraft and systems.
By 1999 the technical condition of most of the surviving aircraft and helicopters was terrible, as Iraq started running out of its remaining stocks of spare parts as well. Attempts to improve the situation with help from Serbia and Belarus, in the period 1999-2002 had some success, but could not help make the IrAF nor the IrAAC effective combat services again. Despite a considerable increase of activity since 1991, and even some success in the almost permanent battle against US reconnaissance UAVs, in December 2002, by March 2003 the IrAF was actually grounded and inactivated for all practical purposes. One of the reasons should have been a failed coup attempt staged by several IrAF officers in October 2002; the other a series of unbelieveable failures on the part of the former Iraqi regime.
The service was eventually disbanded as the US troops reached Baghdad, on 7 April 2003. Ever since, all of its aircraft were either scrapped or taken away to the USA, its whole command structure completely destroyed with top officers either in US custody or in exile, and many of its airfields are now being used by US and other forces.
In the late 1990s, the IrAF modified a number of available MiG-23MLs through addition of advanced S-3M (SPO-10M) RWR, SO-69 (export variant) transponders and SRZO-2 IFF-transponders. The same aircraft have also got ASO-2 chaff&flare dispensers taken from Iraqi Su-22s - considered not important at the time Iraq was facing solely the air policing operations of the USA and the UK. Another interesting addition to these MiG-23MLs was the capability to carry the French-made Remora ECM-pods, delivered together with Mirage F.1EQs already back in 1984. These pods were carried on port main underwing pylon - as seen here - while the starboard station was "reserved" for R-24R missiles. MiG-23MLs armed this way were not carrying any R-60, because these were considered too short-ranged for engagements usually fought by these fighters. Evidence found during the "Orao" affair, in Serbian-held parts of Bosnia and Herzegowina, show that the IrAF MiG-23MLs were overhauled with help of Serbian technicians, starting in 1998 - a fact strongly denied by Iraqi sources.
By 1999, between 32 and 34 J-7Bs (or "F-7Bs") were still in service with the IrAF, but they were mainly used for basic weapons training. Like all the other types, they were not to play any role in the fighting. The example here was found by US troops in a field some 150km south of Baghdad.
This Mi-25, coded "2118", was found at the al-Taji Iraqi Army Air Corps facility by US troops in April 2003. Note the unusual camouflage pattern, never seen before on Iraqi "Hinds".
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I have 3 beautiful well established (10+ year) Camellias. They are about 5'(1.5 meters)tall and grow 3' apart next to each other.
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When I left school at 18, my history teacher wrote the words above in my leavers book. A simple message, but I think it is a pertinent one when discussing the purpose of education.
Several of the writers contributing to this debate already have discussed the importance of learning experiences that have nothing to do with school. This hints at a strong disconnect between what people see as learning that is valuable to their lives and what what we classify as 'education'. For many people, education is not totally relevant to their lives.
The question of relevance is dealt with in the first part of my teacher's advice. Part of of the purpose of education must surely to be to help people to find out what they want out of life. Doing this involves allowing young people to have experiences that are rich and diverse, to see what life has to offer. Diversity alone is not enough though. To really 'feel it' requires following passions and interests in an involved and meaningful way in order to discover where their individual talents can take them.
Hand in hand with this experience is the second part; figuring out how to get it. To my mind, this needs to be in the form of skills that people need to achieve their potential. There are unquestionably some basic skills that everyone needs to function in society, some traditionally seen as important and some new such as digital literacies. Other skills are more specific, and deciding on whether to persue them has to come from encouraging learners to reflect on what they need to develop, and the most fitting way for them to do so. These skills are different for everyone; personalisation in the truest sense.
The final point seems simplistic and perhaps naive- if learners do these things will what they want be handed to them on a plate? Obviously not, but it embodies a purpose that I believe should be intrinsic to education; empowerment. If we let young people figure out what they want and guide them to develop the skills they need, we need to actually allow them the power to go out there and 'Get it'.
This is not a case of saving up this occasion to participate in the world for when they turn 18 and are handed their school leavers books full of notions of empowerment. It needs to be happening every day. They need to be not just imagining their futures but creating them, whether this is in the form of life changing projects or developing more specific, short term interests.
In England, our education system is largely geared towards producing conformists. However, we are facing unique challenges; a damaged environment, dwindling resources, and in this country an ageing population that needs to be cared for by a youth that is increasingly alienated by what they have been left.
Conformists are not going to handle these challenges. The people who are are those who have made a habit of defining and delivering their own futures. These are people who have been given the experiences and permission to figure out what they really want, been encouraged to reflect on and learn the skills and dispositions they need, and empowered to 'get it' habitually.
Such people could both imagine and learn how to create lives, and societies, that work for them. To me, that must be the purpose of education.
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I love those words from your old history teacher, I think that sums everything up beautifully!
I really enjoyed reading your post Oliver, and the links too. You've put your point across as eloquently as ever. I can't disagree with anything you've said and I do believe that empowering children has to ultimately be the key to everything we do.
In reality, if I'm honest, I don't always find it easy to give children adequate time and space to develop their own ideas about what they want and reflect on what they need to do next – this troubles me. However, I do strive to make the learning in my classroom more child led and I hope to continue to build on this in the future.
I am really struck by your section on the future communal challenges that face us all in the next century – particularly that they pose huge uncertainties which our society needs empowered citizens capable of handling ambiguity and change … and most certainly not conformists. I think this is a really important contribution to the debate. It also places the recent twitter criticism of the #purposed debate being too focussed on individuals in context; beginning with the kind of people we want to cultivate through our education system we will move onto the communal and social. In fact seeing learning as a social process is central.
Powerful stuff, Oliver! Love the way that you're calling for an end to the churning out of conformists. This is why the government, as it has with the Bank of England, to delegate responsibility for the keystones of our society to the professionals.
Truly inspiring post, has made me really think about what education does mean and how it needs to move into the present at least and start thinking of the future. Thanks so much for the inspiration.
This is a powerfully simple message, Oliver.
As I've thought about the #purposed posts, I keep coming back to the importance of developing autonomy (non-conformity?) in learners; autonomy to choose their own career, to challenge thoughtless beliefs and stereotypes, and to create and communicate in ways that make them happy and/or improve society.
When I read this I started reminiscing. I was lucky enough to grow up as a member of a youth movement where as 16 year olds we would run educational programming for our peers and as 20 year olds we would run full blown Summer camps for 14 year olds. We were empowered.
In school there is so much spoonfeeding, not only do children not want to think for themselves, but I found it so hard to get children to take on leadership roles. The opposite should be true and education should aim for this.
Really enjoyed reading this post. What you quote from your History teacher has been encapsulated (in many more words, it has to be said) in the excellence and enjoyment materials published back in 2004. Designed to free teachers up from the pedagogically prescriptive national strategies, what they actually did in many schools was just add more workload on to an already busy profession. Teachers who were told from 1995 to 'deliver' the National Curriculum, as if they were posties, continued to deliver what they could, but many lost the passion and individualism they once held, thereby producing conformism in their students.
However I don't think it's fair to blame solely the education system for producing conformists. The use of education as a political football, the legal system and the growth of celebrity culture must all surely take some of the blame.
As a primary teacher myself, I can't fix all that, but I can continue to teach knowledge and skills, model positive attitudes, provide a range of different experiences and raise aspirations. I've been doing that for years though. What's changed for me in recent months is that I've realised that even if I'm wrong, it's more important to be part of the debate than to be right in a little bubble of my own.
Another very perceptive interesting read Oliver that has prompted some great comments as well!
This is a real gem of a post, Oliver. The prevalent spoon feeding within secondary & the production of conformists from primary schools certainly resonates with the growing concern of how youngsters are being suitably prepared to handle changes they will need to face up to in their future. Thanks for sharing your links.
Have been reading back through some of the purposed posts and just realised that I didn't comment on this however I had meant to.
Having now read this for a second time I have come away with the same feeling and that is that education must be defined by the kids. The three statements that you built your post around can be achieved in a user-defined education. How this works exactly I don't know but it appears that many of us involved in this debate are not happy with 1. the rigidity of the current curriculum and 2. the continual focus on content over skills and experiences.
I'm not suggesting that content should not exist but that perhaps the content should be less set in stone. That education is about a set of skills that are agreed upon, will allow students to figure out what they want and how to get it. The content that is used to support this however should be fluid, defined by the students, there location, social status, interests etc.
As a write this next bit I realise the many challenges that this would throw up but the simple fact that this would be difficult does not, for me at least, mean this can not work. Imagine you are a Maths teacher, you need to teach your students about percentages and making informed estimates. Why does every student in the class to learn this in the same way? Think of all the different professions where this math is relevant. So could you not begin by explaining the rules, working through some examples – teaching the skills. Then to embed the learning, based on your knowledge of your students, offer them a range of scenarios in which to work on solving some problems. Some of your students want to be engineers so you give them a set of problems related to engineering. A number of your students a really excelling in history so you give them a series of problems that are related to archaeology and so on. Personalise the content/context in which the learning happens. I might finish by getting the students to feedback their answers to each other to reinforce the fact that the skills they have learned can be applied in multiple contexts.
Yes, this is hard to plan for. Yes, there are issues of sustainability. However, if we are smart I think that education can be this and much more. But we need to know our students and offer them the personalised curriculum that you have eluded to. One that allows them to figure who they are, what they want, how to get it and to have the will power to go and get it.
Great post. I love this phrase "They need to be not just imagining their futures but creating them". Any decent curriculum must have this goal as its cornerstone.
A great post, Oliver and I absolutely agree with everything you've said, particularly about the need to move away from an education system which produces 'conformists'. It's also interesting that you picked this quote from your History teacher which demonstrates the influence that teachers can have on students' future.
"In England, our education system is largely geared towards producing conformists."
Have you ever been to a school in England? I doubt there's an education system in the world more scared of making children conform.
Have you ever been to a school in Japan? They have a saying, "The nail that sticks out gets hammered down." This belief is inherent and endemic in their school system. By the time my students got to my Humanities and English classes in middle school (grade 6) it took me and my IB teacher peers 2 to 3 years to foster and then attempt to coax any individuality and critical thinking out of them. One cannot begin to compare this to English schools. Both my kids completed primary schooling there and neither had the makings of conformists by age 11.
I think conformity tends to be more a matter of perspective and local culture rather than national culture. I was born in Lancashire the birth place of the industrial revolution. Other places may have claim to being the birth place of the industrial revolution: but that's another story. Point is the perspective taken on the history taught. This is what Britain was, or the people had this aptitude and this culture and adapted to their environment, in this way. Heritage can be a foundation on which to build greater things, or it can be an obstacle. It seems to be an increasing obstacle. I always liked the idea of Viking burial, take the chief all his junk, put on long boat send out to sea and set on fire. Then get on with the future, without hindrance of the past.
So whilst one thing is taught, or rather presented, another thing is learnt. And it is the culture outside the schools that imposes conformity. Don't make waves, regulations for this and regulations for that. How can you launch a revolution in such environment, or maintain innovative drive. People were not being taught science and technology: they were out there creating it. Science and technology now established, and we need cogs in the form of qualified people to sustain the machinery of industrial society. But the machine only needs so many cogs, what are the surplus cogs to do? So need to think beyond the employees needed to sustain the machine we have to the innovators of the machine of the future: the machine we want. Plus the life away from the machine: we don't want to be slaves to the societal machine: but that machine meets the needs of the population with minimum effort. Probably not your effort (eg. not producing food), and so how do you gain access to its output?
When figuring out what they want: also have to decide if can be met as an employee or by becoming a business owner. Schools tend to focus on becoming an employee. So I'd say more skills directed at finding a market and running a business are required.
I know that you wrote this a long time ago but I think it is still incredibly relevant. I particularly like the quote from your teacher. I think our system has a lot of issues and through such a prescriptive curriculum we have, in a sense, already predetermined what we want children to achieve. I think that this goes against the feeling that children should be empowered and have autonomy over their learning. I think for this to really be in place there would need to be significant changes through the whole system. A thought provoking piece.
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@zeak4hands - That's a pretty cool way to look at your grandmother's cookbook! My favorite kind of tome is something similar -- my grandmother's old, well-worn dictionary and thesaurus. The definitions aren't technically considered up to date anymore, but that's part of the fascination for me, as it has been since I was a little kid.
When I was little, grandmother would leave the book on her coffee table and let me page through it. Even though I was pretty young, she wasn't worried I would ruin the tome, and I was always super careful with it because I loved it. I have fond childhood memories of looking through the worn out pages and sounding out the words. Some of the words in grandmother's tome are among the first ones I learned to read and spell.
Tomes, especially old ones, are wonderful pieces of history in the form of collected knowledge. I don't think they can ever get out of date -- now grandmother's tome makes a great reference for how the vocabulary and word meanings were thought of back when it was printed.


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27th Feb 2001, 01:04 AM | #1 |
Join Date: Feb. 26th, 2001
Location: Wisconsin
Posts: 2
New to UT downloaded 436, been playing alone would like to play others. Any do's or don'ts? Anything else besides 436 to load that would be helpful? What should I be looking for as far as a game? Not all that familiar with what's going on. Any particular site for newcomers until experience builds (besides alone). Is this even the forum to be asking these questions?
Some experienced help would be nice |
27th Feb 2001, 03:57 AM | #2 |
Welcome to PuF
I'm not sure if you have GOTY, but goto http://www.planetunreal.com/files and get all 4 Bonuspacks. Then connect to our chat channel at irc.enterthegame.com #planetunreal You will always find helpfull people there. You can also ask for a 1on1 there or just have fun chatting As for server to play on: That depends on your location (Euro/US) and what you like (DM/CTF/DOM/...) Dos and donts: Difficult, but just play fair, don't spam,spawnkill, and pistonncamp and everything will be fine. |
27th Feb 2001, 04:01 AM | #3 |
And don't be whiney online. I would rather be spawnsniped than hear, "BS, that shot was luck! F U you **** ****** ***** *** ******"
You are in the right place Welcome to PuF (Planetunreal Forums). |
27th Feb 2001, 08:54 AM | #4 |
Join Date: Feb. 26th, 2001
Location: Wisconsin
Posts: 2
What is spam, spawnkill, pistonncamp? What do you mean by goty,told you I was new to all this. So getting the 4 bonus packs will also help. Are they maps? |
27th Feb 2001, 09:10 AM | #5 |
spam = bullsh!t repeatedly thrown at everyone until they get pissed off
spawnkill = fire continuously at where players respawn to get easy kills (and make ennemies real fast) pistoncamp = getting your hammer charged and camping while staring at a teleporter so that when somebody teleports in he gets gibbed. I don't tell you this so you can do it yourself, this is a warning. People who do these are lame (llamas) this is just a proof of their own weakness. Also you should avoid killing your own team's members. And don't ever download something called Aimbot or Justicebot, as it is a powerful virus that will turn all your friends against you and get you banned from many servers Don't hesitate to ask for tricks, there are many, and anybody here will eagerly teach them to you.
United we stand, divided we run free at last ! We are not at war with Intel. We have never been at war with Intel. -- S. Jobs |
27th Feb 2001, 02:12 PM | #6 |
GOTY is the Game Of The Year edition of UT. It came out recently and has some of the bonus packs and stuff. We thought you might have that version because you are new. There is nothing in the GOTY that you can't download for free from the internet, so don't feel bad if you bought UT before GOTY came out. If you are "borrowing" a copy from a friend, its ok if you are just trying it out. But if you start playing it a lot please go out and buy a copy. Its really worth the money and Epic deserves it. Besides, they will just use the cash to make even more cool games
Click on the "mulitplayer" tab, the click on "find internet games" then click on "chat". Put "irc.enterthegame.com" in the box labeled "server" and "#planetunreal" in the box labeled channel. Then click "connect". It will take you to the chat room where people from this forum like to hang out. From there we can find games together, so you can play with people who won't yell at you if you make mistakes while you are learning. |
27th Feb 2001, 02:41 PM | #7 |
Rooster posted some great tips on playing UT.
Check out this thread, http://forums.planetunreal.com/showt...threadid=13266 |
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Patti Smith – Banga
If it were possible to review Patti Smith's Banga in a vaccuum, perhaps we'd be having a nice little discussion about poetry and aging hippies. But with Patti Smith comes all the weight and power of words like "LEGEND", "ICON" and "IDOL." She is the godmother of punk, after all – and noted inspiration to Michael Stipe, Madonna, Sonic Youth, the Smiths, and other assorted musical giants. She is a singer, a poet, and patron Goddess of the female rock star.
With that kind of epic reputation, the only thing Patti could really do wrong is…oh, try too hard capture the spirit of today's youth (ahem, Madonna, ahem). But barring that, at age 65, Patti Smith pretty much gets a free pass to put out any damn kind of album she wants to. Luckily, most of Banga is quite good, and even the most indulgent bits are worth a listen.
Okay, so maybe the ten-minute poem/ramble "Constantine's Dream" lacks a payoff. It feels a little like reading one of the songs in a Tolkien book – one wonders if there is essential information hiding in it, someplace, or if it's cool to just skip this part. But on the other side is a lovely cover of Neil Young's "After the Gold Rush," to reward you for your listening efforts. The title track is loads of fun, and "Mosaic" is a perfect song to get your best hippie-sway on to. In fact, if you've got a long skirt or a pair of world music pants in your closet, bust 'em out and lose yourself to the Banga vibe – Patti, the Goddess, is bringing it in spades.
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Drama Mamas: The case of the underage scammer {WoW}
Feb 25th 2011 9:40AM Before I begin I would like to say I am 17, for the past 3 years have been running a social guild, and have worked with a lot of both children and adults.
Like it or not, Warcraft is an open book game, you will run into people who will try to harass you, you will meet people who will lie, cheat, scam, steal, and grief. When I first started off as a Guild Master I thought running a guild would be easy, just pop on daily and hang out with people. After about 3 months of running my Guild I realized that it's not easy.
We actually had a problem like this about 5 weeks ago, someone came into our guild and began to advertise he was selling items in trade chat. At first I thought nothing of it and let him speak; I logged off about 30min latter to get some shut eye.
The next day, I log on and see I have mail from another older member, saying how this new kid, "stole" 100 gold from him. After a quick talk with him, I discovered the kid was trying to pass of Plain Letters as high selling Enchanting Recipes.
I did what any good GM would do, I demoted the kid to the lowest level possible, and set him aside to talk to him. I did not curse, (Unless I'm messing around with a few of my guild mates) I did not name call, but I told him what he did was wrong and breaks our guild rules. After typing up a long sentence, trying to calmly convince him to return the gold, I get the response "F*** you, and F*** your guild"
Of course this was followed by my favorite part of the job, /gkick. I confronted the member that lost gold, and repaid him with my own. When I asked him if he wanted me to report the kid, I was told to let it slide.
My point is; If you are dealing with anyone, always act mature. Trolling and Profanity won't solve anything. Especially when dealing with someone younger.
I've been a GM for 3 years now, I've meet people who I would do anything for, and I've meet people who I wish never set foot on my server. This is a MMORPG, you never know who is playing on the other side of that computer.
12 Days of Winter Veil Giveaway Day 2: Worldbreaker Epic Collection boxes {WoW}
Dec 23rd 2010 2:05PM I think its funny how we have some posts which get 200 tops...
A give away opens up and within 15min were up too 1000 posts...
Breakfast Topic: Do you collect non-combat armor? {WoW}
Dec 3rd 2010 8:40AM Being a Druid;
I have:
Tank PvE
DPS(Cat) PvE
DPS(Cat) PvP
Healer PvE
Healer PvE
For sets in my bank...
Some How I also manage to have 6 dress up suits... among other items I cant get rid of...
A Blue Dinner suit/Hat/Gloves/Boots
Tux (All male night elves have one.)
Mid-summer fire fest set
Blood Sail
Winterveil Grab
Brewfest Grab
And top that off with atleast 3 Oldworld sets that I keep for no good reason...
Top that off with the Ingame "Toy" trinkets...
Flute, Peasent caller, Brewfest Charms, Voodoo gnomes...
I find it best to have my other 5 80s do all the AH work... Cyon just sits back, dresses up, and hosts guild meetingings....
That is when hes not raiding, PvPing, or soon to be leveling, OFC.
WoW Moviewatch: Nub Tales, Season 2: Lich King Does Orphan Week {WoW}
Dec 1st 2010 7:10PM Yumfries really outdid himself.
I don't normally comment on Moviewatch, but I feel the urge too.
Normally when I see a post by him, I think to myself "Great, I need a pick me up today; Let sit back and enjoy 5 minutes of 8 year olds shouting about boobs and newbs."
When I first saw the Human death Knight with Shadowmourn I expected it to be about mindlessly killing... but then... it changed on me...
I watched this expecting it to become one huge immature punch line... but in the end I shed a tear...
Yumfries you have proven yourself to be a Hero...
Great work.
Win a Pandaren Monk from WoW Insider {WoW}
Nov 23rd 2010 12:22PM Rolling.
WoW Moviewatch: End of the World (of Warcraft) {WoW}
Nov 9th 2010 1:49PM Just like the first time.
Leonard Berstine!***
=P sorry had to do it.
Overall I thought it was good, The video linked in an above comment was done a bit better however....
Ghostcrawler: Round 1 of patch 4.0.1 class rebalancing implemented {WoW}
Oct 15th 2010 8:21AM And My Pointed stick of Death.
WoW Moviewatch: Family Tauren {WoW}
Oct 12th 2010 7:21AM About 6:00am Here, No Coffee.
Paused the video and click about 5 times thinking to myself:
"Damn these Goldsellers, and there un closeable adds!"
Cataclysm beta removes portals from Dalaran and Shattrath {WoW}
Sep 27th 2010 12:14PM @Snackpatrol
Looks like someone has never played a mage before.
Its NOT worng to ignore people. It never has been.
Its asshats like you that piss me off; you Begbegbegbegbegbegbeg.
But when the time comes that someone helps you; you dont even offer a "Thank you."
Now here you are on Wowinisder trolling people because you cant accept the fact that you are NOT importaint.
So kindly.
Chill out; Shut up; Play WoW; and Leave.
You dont need to be there every time someone makes a post; unless you need the attention.
Cataclysm beta removes portals from Dalaran and Shattrath {WoW}
Sep 27th 2010 12:00PM @Snackpatrol
Snack Pa Troll.
Obvious Troll is Obvious
Go home; we dont like you here; your only wasting words.


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That's when word leaked out that the Boulder police were checking out child sex offenders. (Convicted sex offenders must register with the police when they take up residence after release from prison.) The cops had plenty to choose from: There are 71 registered child sex offenders in Boulder and another 30 in Boulder County.
But Miles, who lives with his 89-year-old mother six blocks from the Ramsey house, is not a convicted child sex offender. He has been arrested before--but for possessing photographs of teenage boys. So why go after him for the murder of a six-year-old girl?
Miles was working in the garden last October when next-door neighbor Judith Phillips came rushing over. Phillips, a photographer herself and a former friend of the Ramseys, was breathless, he says.
"She said, 'You need to come over to my house right away. It's extremely important...use the side door,'" Miles recalls. "She put her hands on my shoulders and said, 'Trust me.'"
Miles did as he was asked. Phillips led him into her darkened living room, he says, where she introduced him to a man named John South.
South told him he worked for the Enquirer. "He said, 'We've learned that the Ramsey camp is targeting you as the killer of JonBenet,'" recalls Miles, imitating South's British accent. "He said, 'They want to confuse the issue and take attention away from themselves. Can you think of any reason why they would choose you?'"
Miles told the Enquirer reporter that he had several drug arrests, the last in the late 1980s, on his record, and that he'd also been arrested for sexual exploitation of a child in 1989.
That year the Boulder police raided Miles's home and seized a number of photographs of teenage boys in various stages of undress. Because there were three copies of one particular photograph, it was considered to have been taken for commercial purposes, netting Miles the exploitation charge.
However, that photograph was of Peter Hale, a friend of Miles's and, more important, a male then seventeen years old--and therefore above the age of consent.
Like the other photographs, the Hale picture was fairly modest. "Michelangelo's sculpture of David is more revealing," notes Hill, Miles's attorney. The photograph has since appeared in several mainstream photography magazines.
The exploitation charge was dropped; however, Miles pleaded guilty to contributing to the delinquency of a minor, for supplying beer to an underage drinker. As part of the deal, he was told to report to a monastery in Pecos, New Mexico, that bills itself as a retreat/counseling center for "wounded healers," where his brother was the abbott for counseling.
Miles's therapy was geared to helping him develop "more age-appropriate relationships." He also was told to stay away from minor children and from Penny Lane, a Boulder coffeeshop/ poetry venue then known as a hangout for the young and disenfranchised.
Now here was the Enquirer's South, asking if Miles had noticed anything strange in the past few days. As a matter of fact, Miles told him, someone had stolen every bit of his trash that week, and a camper had been parked across the street for two days.
After South warned him that "this is quite serious," Miles says he assumed the theft of his trash and the camper's presence confirmed that the Ramseys were after him. South told him he had a plan. "Your story will prove they are barking up the wrong tree," Miles remembers him saying.
"Now I wonder if it wasn't the National Enquirer going through my trash, and their camper," Miles says.
The next day Phillips asked Miles to come over again--this time to take his picture for the story. At first, Miles says, Phillips said she wanted to photograph him in his garden, of which he is exceedingly proud. But then she asked him to put his hands behind his head and snapped the shot when he was unprepared.
It was that photograph of a harassed-looking Miles that ran on the front page of the Enquirer a week later.
The photograph of Miles was published again inside, along with a full-page story. "I can't believe this nightmare is happening to me," Miles was quoted as saying. "Why are they doing this to me? Are John and Patsy so cold-blooded as to try to make me the fall guy to save their own skins?"
The article intimated that Miles knew he was on a "list of pedophile sex offenders living in Boulder." But Miles takes issue with that. "I am not a pedophile," he says. "I am gay, openly gay, and have been for years. I never said that I knew I was on a list or that the Boulder police were looking at me."
And that list can't be the registration that the police are required to keep, since Miles isn't a convicted child sex offender.
In fact, the first contact Miles had with the Boulder police regarding the Ramsey case was three weeks ago, after his lawsuit against the Ramseys and the Enquirer was filed. "My lawyer asked if I was on any sort of list, and the detective said no," Miles says. "They just asked me where I was that night, and I told them with my mom. We had Christmas dinner with relatives and then we went home...They said, 'Sorry for the inconvenience.'" But they also asked for a handwriting sample, a mouth swab and a palm print, Miles adds.


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It's our last Drink of the Week of 2010, and we're wrapping up the year with a pop and some fizz—the Hou Hou Shu sparkling saké from the Marumoto Saké Brewery. Referred to in Japan as "happo-shu," sparkling saké gets its carbonation by going through a secondary fermentation in the bottle, similar to the method used to produce Champagne, and it's a fun and unexpected way to ring in the New Year. This particular sparkling saké is rich and creamy, but a low alcohol level and balanced acidity help keep the sweetness in check. Plus, it's among the most widely available sparkling sakés on the market, so finding a bottle or two won't be any trouble. Keeping enough of it around to toast the New Year, though, may be a different story. $9/180 ml., klwines.com
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THE SECOND round of auditions for new reality TV show Sent To Coventry will commence next week.
Hundreds of people from all walks of life auditioned earlier this month with the aim of being picked out for the show, which will see a 15-minute pilot filmed focusing on the city.
Around 50 people have been called back for the second stage next Friday (February 8).
And actress Holly Matthews, who helped with casting at city venue S7ven, said she had been inundated with requests to attend the second auditions.
And revealed that it will be a much more intimate affair this time round.
"This means no waiting out in the cold and will give us more time with people as times are allocated," said Holly.
"From there the cast will be picked and we will start filming the pilot around the cast.
"We will be moving on it pretty quickly and have people waiting on the outcome of this.
"This is where the real work starts and although things may whiten down slightly, rest assured we are busier than ever."
Among those to be selected is fashion blogger Shaun Turner, who tweeted: "I'm so excited its unreal just planning what to wear lol #fashionistaofcoventry #fashionblogger."
Nathan Lewis, an up and coming actor, said: "So excited to be auditioning next Friday for @SenttoCov and is bringing the A game or as i say G game (G stands for Ginger)."
Shop owner Lisa Merrett was also selected and tweeted a message of thanks for her support: "As if I'm going through to the second round of auditions I want my sweet shop famous!"
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