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Does anyone know what the cost of a concrete slab (to be used for tiling a covered patio) would run (by square foot)? I searched the archives and couldn't find anything on this (plus it keeps going up anyway).
What is the going rate per SF? Or do they quote it another way? |
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- Posted by bwallen149 (My Page) on Wed, Feb 8, 06 at 13:34
Have no idea in AZ, but here, south central IN. Depending on the mix it is $85-$95 dollars a yard depending on psi strength, hot water, calcium, fiber, etc. One yard will get you 80sq. ft. at four inches thick. Add 10% for grade variations, you dont want to run out. We have a $50 fuel surcharge for any load under four yards. Finishers around here charge $.50 per sq ft. just to finish. To form and finish around $.80 per sq. ft. I know our two ready mix plants went up seven dollars a yard on 12/1/05. Hope it helps... |
- Posted by azdreamhome (My Page) on Wed, Feb 8, 06 at 14:10
bwallen149 -- thanks for the quick response. So using your numbers (it's a bit confusing for me to figure out), how much would an 1,100 square foot patio come to? Again, this will be the foundation for a tiled patio under cover. Thanks for your help! |
- Posted by charlotte_sometimes (My Page) on Wed, Feb 8, 06 at 17:30
Ours was probably a little high since it was done by the builder but was $3/sq ft. |
- Posted by bwallen149 (My Page) on Thu, Feb 9, 06 at 14:39
Is this to form and finish, finish only, and how thick do you want it... I am going to guess at 4", that is what almost all slabs, garage floors, driveways, sidewalks, etc. are poured around here. The concrete at 4" would be about 15.2yds. Roughly $90/yard so roughly 1375 in just concrete. $.50/sqft to finish so about $550. If it needs formed and finished figure about $.80/sqft. so $880. Youmay also have the cost of a sealer, 5gals should cover it, less than $60. And some guys charge to come back and saw "crack joints" in it. I would think less than $75. One other question, you said this patio is covered. Is the concrete going to support some kind of roof system. If so you need to think about some sort of footer for any edge that has a load on it. |
Our driveway installer just quoted us $4000 for 1200 square feet, 4" thick, rebar reinforcement, exposed aggregate. That's about $3.33 s.f. We're in Seattle where labor costs are high. |
$5 sq. ft. by my builder in Atlanta. If you don't want to get stuck with a small 23' side entry garage apron width you have no choice but to use the builder and pay his surcharge. Win some, lose some. |
- Posted by azdreamhome (My Page) on Fri, Feb 10, 06 at 10:20
Thanks everyone! We will be tiling the concrete foundation we pour. I'm not actually sure about how many inches the foundation needs to be (but at least 4"). I wanted to get a rough estimate here before I spoke to my builder about it so I had some knowledge on the subject. You have been very helpful. bwallen149 -- you have been extremely thorough and it really helps! |
- Posted by buildinghome (My Page) on Fri, Feb 10, 06 at 11:57
Our concrete was $2.60 per sf.(mat & labor) We are in NW Ohio. That included 4" thickness and either a smooth or broomsweep finish. Good Luck! |
I live in Houston TX I am a concrete contractor. I charge $2.40 a sq ft for 4 inch thick patios with 3/8" rebar on 12" centers. My concrete cost $73 a cubic yd and 3/8" rebar runs $2.30 for a 20 ft length. My cost includes all grading forming and to pour and finish the concrete. If you are pouring against your house slab you need to have an expansion joint seperating the two slabs or you need to dowel the two slabs together. Before you seal your slab check with the tile installer. Good luck with your new patio. |
Az dream. I live in Az and paid less than $3 sq ft less than a year ago. This was for a side walk, patio extention and pad for hot tub. About 1000 sq ft. Formed, finished etc for about $2500, and this when concrete was hard to get. Good Luck ! Most builders will charge you $4.50 or more, ours wanted to. |
in NJ. I was just quoted $2500 for 4" thick, 420 sq ft. dyed concrete. This included grading. Seems high by what you all are saying.... |
- Posted by azdreamhome (My Page) on Thu, Apr 6, 06 at 19:06
It's funny that this thread popped up again today (thanks sprengle1). They poured our back patio, courtyard and some other stoops just a couple hours ago! We are paying a little less than $3/sf and it is supposed to be about five inches thick (we will be putting tile on it). Here's a photo of our "wet" back patio: "Wet" concrete back patio looking west: "Wet" concrete back patio looking southwest: |
- Posted by houston_dave (My Page) on Thu, May 25, 06 at 20:20
I live in Houston and want to have a new concrete patio poured. The plan is lay slate tile over the new patio. There is an existing patio which was pour in 1995, however, it slopes toward the house and causes water to puddle near the slab. Can I pour over the existing patio? In order to level the area I will need about 5 inches next to the house and 2 inches 15 feet from the house (25 feet in length). Please tell me that I don't have to remove the existing slab! |
- Posted by gspeed(email@example.com) onSat, Dec 30, 06 at 13:59
azdreamhome could you please forward me the name of your concrete contractor? I am in AZ central phoenix starting a garage addition and starting to get quotes. Thanks Gspeed |
Hi Bob 681 from Houston. I am planning to put a concrete patio on my backyard. Would you like to send me your contact numbers? I will give you the details of the job and address. Thanks |
- Posted by brmatthews (My Page) on Mon, Mar 5, 07 at 11:26
I live in Magnolia (FM 1488 & FM 2978) which is a suburb of Houston, Texas and am interested in adding on to my 10' x 10' concrete slab patio on the back of my house. I want to make the patio 16' deep and run the entire length of the back of the house (about 41 ft). If any conctractors want to bid on this, then please email me and include your company name, website (if you have one), phone number, etc? I was thinking about make the outer edge (41 ft outer edge of the patio) have a curve to it rather than making the patio a boxy rectangular shape. I will eventually cover the patio (probably match the roof shingles on the house) so I want to add a thicker outer perimeter for the patio to support the load, but the rest will be 4 inches thick (should be sufficient). One more thing that might affect pricing...the concrete truck can be driven through my side yard to the back of my house, rather than wheelbarrowing the cement to the back. Let me know if you are interested and provide a price. Right now it is just weeds and wild grass. Please indicate if your price includes removing vegetation, digging/leveling/grading, building forms, pouring concrete, finish, etc. Thanks, |
brmatthews: We are owner-building in Magnolia. I justed wanted to give you the info of the guy we are using for our slab. After talking to 5 companies, we chose him. He's out of Conroe - Percy Cassard (Cassard Concrete Constr.) 936-539-5101 office 936-537-1999 cell. |
- Posted by jimk(email@example.com) onSat, May 26, 07 at 1:48
I have been looking for quotes for a concrete slab to extend my existing patio. Roughly 200 sq ft at 4" with a 4" gravel base. I am getting prices closer to $10. I was expecting about half that. Have costs gone higher this year? |
$10/sf? Here in the DFW metroplex, I see lawn signs at houses with newly poured concrete driveways advertising 4" concrete slabs for $3/sf. |
I'll have to subscribe to the win some / loose some philosophy. I payed $6/sf to my builder. South Carolina. |
Hi, Someone else mentioned the possibility of pouring over old concrete. I've got a situation with a patio in pretty bad shape - uneven and once apparently covered with a glued on outdoor carpeting. There are wood strips between the squares which aren't in great shape. There's a very unsafe concrete slope from near the door sill down to the patio. I had been thinking about redoing the whole patio, but would it be possible to build up the patio about 2-4" on top of the old so it comes to the same height as the top of the little concrete ramp there now (and then have another ramp as required further on out away from the house). Would be nice to be able to do a pour-over but don't know how wise this would be. Anne |
Paid $3.25 per sq foot for my driveway and small smoker pad, turnkey. The concrete is 4" thick with rebar - not mesh, and with brushed finish and curved sidewalk. |
- Posted by dreamscapes (My Page) on Fri, Jul 6, 07 at 2:05
Bob681 or tegemen email bobs contact info to me please firstname.lastname@example.com No one has mentioned removing grass. Pricing seems to be on cleared land without grass. How much more is your contractor charging for cutting out ummmm lets say 2000 square feet @ 4" (40x50)of established st augustine sod for a new basketball court. Is $5bucks/square ft too much especially since steel/rebar and fuel costs have gone up? were in the Houston burbs south of i-10 |
AZdreamhouse, Sorry to jump in, but what kind of columns do you have? Are they concrete or cast stone? Where did you get them?? Thank you! |
Bob681 ... Please send me your contact info to ... email@example.com. I live in Houston and need some concrete work done at my house and possibly a few others. Thanks. |
I live in San Diego, CA., and seeking quotes (local contractors) on a 10 x 20 patio concrete slab. If interested, please email me at email@example.com. Appreciate your time, Sincerely, Bensan |
Here in Oklahoma we got a quote of $3 sq/ft. Seems pretty average as far as the replies here. |
2008 prices in Maryland for 4' concrete (3,000 psi): 4' unreinforced $3.50 per square foot Call (301)663-0626 for a quote |
Here is a link that might be useful: MK Concrete
Bob681 and any other concrete/foudation specialists, please contact me at firstname.lastname@example.com . I need a driveway and foundation poured. |
- Posted by curioustim (My Page) on Sat, Feb 28, 09 at 16:51
I need a 1200 sq.ft 4" thick, smooth finish slab poured does 3.00 per.ft cover concrete, sod removel and compacted rock base?? what would be a resonable price to pay for this project?? Good luck AZ |
- Posted by jonathanyork (My Page) on Mon, May 4, 09 at 15:38
Hi Bob 681 from Houston. I am planning to put a concrete patio on my backyard, 17x20 "340 square feet" Please send me your contact info, I am looking to get this done within a week or so. Thanks Jonathan |
- Posted by Andre(email@example.com) onMon, Jun 8, 09 at 17:12
Jonathan, Did you got Bob contact info? I also want to make a 10x32 concrete patio. almost like yours, a bit smaller - 320Sq ft Thanks, AM. |
- Posted by Jeremy Gerdes(email@example.com) onMon, Jun 8, 09 at 17:48
Anyone know of any good concrete companies in dallas area? i put up my own forms, backfil, and rebar. All i need is them to come out and actually pour. 21 ft out from the house and 32 feet long |
I'm a contractor from San Antonio Texas and we just did a 2000 sq.ft slab with a rebar and 4" tick at 2.00 sq.ft for a patio and we will be puting Flagstone on it next week. |
manuelm: I am looking for a contractor to extend my driveway (wider) and add an entrance patio to the side of my garage. I am located just north of San Antonio TX. Please send your business contact information if you are interested |
- Posted by Joe(firstname.lastname@example.com) onSun, Jan 23, 11 at 16:03
I live in Fallbrook CA. Most companies want 4$-5$ per foot. I hired the guys that the contractors hire and supervised it myself for $1.87 per sq. foot. $2366.00 28.5 yds concrete $ 350.00 wire mesh #1490.00 Labor total. I am extremely pleased with the entire job. I cannot find 1 flaw anywhere. I have pictures but cannot figure out how to post them. |
- Posted by Dave Mosley(email@example.com) onTue, Jan 25, 11 at 19:51
I am in the Cypress area of Houston and looking to add-on the the existing patio. The additional size to be 8x10x4"thk. What would it cost to do this. If you do this for a living, contact me and give me your best price. |
- Posted by Dave Mosley(email@example.com) onTue, Jan 25, 11 at 19:57
I am in the Cypress area of Houston and looking to add-on to the existing patio. The additional size to be 8x21x4"thk. What would it cost to do this? If you do this for a living, contact me and give me your best price. |
- Posted by Warren Allen(email@example.com) onTue, Feb 8, 11 at 18:09
I'm from South of Houston: Richwood. I do concrete work. Our price on concrete is a bit higher; it just went to $120 a yard, with a $100 short load fee under 4yards. Rebar is about $3.50-4.00 a stick. Forms are about $.93 Lin ft. Residential Commercial and industrial may be significantly higher for many reasons. |
Here is a link that might be useful: Nation Restoration Corporation
Looking to build a 324 sq ft room and 45 sq ft bathroom onto our house. Looking for concrete/slab contractors. I am in the Conroe, Texas area. If you are a contractor, please e-mail me at firstname.lastname@example.com Looking for bids. Thank you! |
- Posted by CactusRox(email@example.com) onWed, Mar 2, 11 at 10:05
In Tucson, AZ - looking for someone to pour a 16' X 8' X 4" slab of concrete in the backyard to extend the existing back patio to the full length of the house. Please send an email with a complete quote to include prepping the area, finishing, sealing, crack joints, etc. |
- Posted by Brooke(email@example.com) onTue, May 10, 11 at 9:43
I live in Grand Rapids, MI. I'm looking into a concrete slab for the first step of what will eventually be a screened porch. The size is yet to be determined. I may also want a circular pad poured in the center of the back yard for the dining table and chairs. It would probably be cheaper to have them do them both at the same time. Does anyone know what concrete is costing here per sq ft in Michigan now? Poured and finished--with a rebar reinforcement? Also, will they charge more to make a round patio for me rather than just a box shape? |
- Posted by Mike3922(firstname.lastname@example.com) onWed, Jun 8, 11 at 19:44
Hi Bob681 from Houston, Can you please send me you contact info? I need a concrete patio on my back yard done. my email is email@example.com. Thank you, |
- Posted by SunshineStateOfMind (My Page) on Sat, Jun 11, 11 at 15:26
First, I am amazed this thread is 5 years old, but I wanted to thank everyone for their input. I'm a pretty good do-it-yourself person when it comes to remodeling, but for big pours of cement, I leave that to the contractors. In northeast Kansas, Dan Hooyer of Hooyer Concrete 785-562-3603 is meticulous and does fabulous work. I've seen walls, floors, and color. When I did my own patio, I had sloping issues and the finish wasn't evenly smooth. When Dan did the garage floor and walls...perfection. As far as cost, I should have paid to have Dan do my patio. I may have saved on the labor, but it's like comparing Picasso (Dan) to a grade school fingerpainter (me). A valuable lesson in cement. |
- Posted by wendell johnson(email@example.com) onSun, Jun 12, 11 at 10:55
I am a concrete contractor in Houston, TX. (www.conspecinc.com) After reading these treads I am amazed at how little people really know about concrete placement. First, the smaller the job = the more it costs because we are charged a "short load fee" for orders under 6 yards. This fee can be up to $175 "plus" the cost of the concrete. Also - for slab on grade applications wire mesh is much better than rebar (contrary to popular opinion). It has to do with the fact that reinforcement on "slab on grade" applications is based upon the strength of the GRADE not necessarily the reinforcement. The reinforcement just prevents the crack from developing and wire mesh does a better job. I address this on my website. Finally, concrete costs have gone up as the economy (gas prices), drive costs. I charge $6 to $7 PSF for stamped colored concrete and $3.50 to $4 for standard. In Houston, contractors have a habit of putting wood for control joints which ultimately rots out. Not a good idea. I don't use wood for control joints unless requested. Also concrete can be ordered in MANY WAYS! A contractor can order substandard concrete (but the owner does not know the difference), cheap.... but GOOD concrete costs about $80 per yard. In short a concrete patio "should" cost $3.50 to $4 PSF in Houston that is - if you seek quality. Concrete can have "fillers" which after 28 days "will" give you 3000 PSI but "after" this period it will slowly diminish. Good concrete however, increases its strength with age. Good concrete takes 50 years to totally cure. My website gives you the truth about concrete placement. |
- Posted by gracie(email@example.com) onWed, Jun 15, 11 at 11:21
Thinking about replacing my wooden patio for a concrete one, live in league city tx, looking for an estimation, it will be 16 x 30 - email: firstname.lastname@example.com |
- Posted by John R. Guerra(firstname.lastname@example.com) onMon, Jun 20, 11 at 21:43
We are trying to have a driveway extension approx 12x24 ft with base to level site to 4" approx coupled with a patio 15 x 15 ft x 2 inches thick. Rebar, foundation forms and labor running $3k and concrete truck approx 13 yards @ $1.5k...in Spring Branch Texas...Does anyone think this is an outrageous cost? One contractor submitted a $7k bid. Thanks for any responses. Oh, PS, we are hill country grade, drought in 110 degree weather? Still sound reasonable? |
- Posted by Wendell(email@example.com) onThu, Jun 23, 11 at 23:29
I would be VERY careful in placing concrete two inches think on your patio. The ONLY way this should be accomplished is if you make SURE the sub-grade is compacted to a minimum 1500 PSI. The strength of "slab on grade" concrete is vested in the SUBGRADE - not necessarily the concrete. Most do not understand the simple fact that the slab of concrete is only as strong as the "grade" or what the concrete is placed on. It does not matter how much steel, rebar, or reinforcement placed into it - if the subgrade is faulty you will have a problem futuristically. I am a concrete contractor (28 years experience and degreed), and try to explain the MANY misconceptions about concrete placement. For example - people call it "cement" which is like calling flour a cake. Cement is only one of the basic "INGREDIENTS" in concrete. Think of cement as the glue that bonds everything else together. The more cement one puts in the mix = the stronger the concrete. People erroneously believe reinforcement makes concrete stronger, but in reality the amount of cement in the mix determines the strength. For more information and the truth about concrete go to my website at www.conspecinc.com. |
- Posted by Joel(firstname.lastname@example.com) onWed, Jun 29, 11 at 22:09
Hi, thank you to everyone who has been posting. I am looking to get a quote for a 12X12 concrete slab. I am south of Houston Tx (Texas City) and looking to have this done in the next week or so. Email: email@example.com |
- Posted by Randy10000 (My Page) on Wed, Jan 18, 12 at 16:04
Sidewalk: $5 - $6 per square foot. Over 300 square-feet the price will decrease as size increases. Patio: $6 - $7 per square foot. Over 500 square-feet the price will decrease as size increases. Stamped & colored: $9 - $14 per square foot. Costs increased in 2010, 2011 and for 2012 with increase in fuel & materials. Concrete is backbreaking labor to build framing, move materials and correctly finish concrete. |
Are the costs, to consumer, estimates posted on January 18, 2012 still accurate? I'm going to need a contractor to install some 30' of walkway & a 12'x16' patio. I live in the Spring, TX area off of FM2920 I'd like to hear from interested contractors. |
I live in Houston Metro area and like to have a driveway extension approx 15x35 ft before Feb. 2013. Please email me email@example.com for more information. Thank you. |
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2013 and earlier Kia Forte / Forte Koup Prices Paid and Buying Experience
igozoomzoom Waleska, GeorgiaPosts: 797You may have already made a purchase in the two weeks since you posted this, but I thought I'd respond just in case you hadn't sealed the deal yet....
Accoring to TrueCar.com, the Lowest Certified Price from a local dealer is $15,321 for an EX with A/T and no other options. That price includes the $1500 Cash Back incentive and $486 in 'Regional Ad Fees' but doesn't include tax, tag and title.
1072.47 (7% sales tax, Fulton County resident)
plus $18.00 title fee and $3.00 GA warranty fee
$16,414.47 plus tag fees
The tag fee will vary depending on whether you have a current tag to transfer (from a trade-in, for example); if not, you will be required to pay the ad valorem tax based on your specific tax district within Fulton. (Milton and Sandy Springs have the lowest rate and the city of Atlanta is the highest). The total will be between $202.15 and $272.50....
So the total is between $16,600 and $16,700 OTD, pretty dang close to your $16,500 goal...and you may be able to haggle them down to your number!2015.5 Volvo S60 T6 Drive-E Platinum, 2012 Mazda CX-9 GT -
joejoe666 Posts: 1I'm getting the following deal...
Kia Forte 2010 EX with Fuel Economy Package & Electrochromatic Mirror w/Compass
Car Price: $17,300 (6% off MSRP)
Rebates: $2,000
My car price: $15,200
OTD Price: $16,287 (6% tax)
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beantown Posts: 228Let me get this straight.....$3K down + $200 a month means you're spending $10,200.00 for a three year lease. Ouch. You'd be better off buying it I would think. That's almost luxury car territory there.
You can get a true zero down lease in Mass for $199 a month on a Forte EX right now. A Sorento with a $25K sticker goes for less than that as well ($0 down - $250 a month). -
dhruvilshah Posts: 2hey dud i m doing homework on kia koup sx with leather seats moon roof and automatic tranmission. i m gone a buy this car in this month. i m from topeka kansas.
just wondering how much did u pay all over like everything,
because my buget is under 20000$. and if u have any tip when buying a car.
i m really new to this . and how much insurance cost for 16 to 25 year old person. with clean reccord. sorry for poor english i m asian. thanks
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ljacobson Posts: 8Dude,
I suggest you go to this website, build your car there and then see what their pricing is. If you can get that pricing from the dealership then you got a pretty good deal.
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ken117 Posts: 215A buyer should understand TrueCar and its relationship to dealers. The prices quoted on TrueCar do not represent the lowest price possible. TrueCar must make a profit, since we don't pay that profit comes out of the sales price which are set by the dealer and are not likely the lowest price available. Best to use TrueCar as a starting point and seek to purchase at least a few hundred dollars less. I did this last year and purchased a new vehicle for several hundred dollars less. The dealer informed me he uses TrueCar as a source for leads. The key, don't use the TrueCar site to contact the dealer. Use TrueCar to identify the dealer and then visit the dealer and negotiate a price lower than the TrueCar price.
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seaurchin Posts: 57Guys, I am trying to purchase a used 2010 Forte EX. Is anyone familiar with Kia's CPO program, I am having difficulties figuring it out.
I understand that every CPO comes with 10/100,000 powertrain warranty, but Kia's website also says what for a second hand car powertrain warranty becomes 60,000 from original 100,000. Used Kia that I was has 24,000 on it, so does that mean that I will be basically getting 36,000 not 76,000 as I expected.
Also, it seems like most CPO cars come with 12 month bumper to bumper, I did not see anything of the sort on Kia.
Can someone shed some light on this whole Kia CPO thing, they website (if you can find it) is very, very unclear. -
igozoomzoom Waleska, GeorgiaPosts: 797"Guys, I am trying to purchase a used 2010 Forte EX. Is anyone familiar with Kia's CPO program, I am having difficulties figuring it out.
I understand that every CPO comes with 10/100,000 powertrain warranty, but Kia's website also says what for a second hand car powertrain warranty becomes 60,000 from original 100,000. Used Kia that I was has 24,000 on it, so does that mean that I will be basically getting 36,000 not 76,000 as I expected."
When the car was sold NEW, it came with a 5yr/60k Bumper-to-Bumper Warranty and 10yr/100k mile Powertrain Warranty. The 10yr/100k Powertrain coverage is only valid for the original owner. The Powertrain Warranty drops to 5yr/60k for any subsequent owners.
The only EXCEPTION is a vehicle purchased from a KIA dealer that meets their requirements for their CPO program! The CPO vehicle carries the remainder of the 5yr/60k Bumper-to-Bumper Warranty (if any) AND it retains the balance of the 10yr/100k Powertrain Warranty as well! =)
For instance, let's assume this CPO 2010 Forte was sold new 18 months ago and now has 24,000 miles on it. The balance of the full warranty would cover it for another 3.5 years and/or 36,000 miles. The Powertrain Warranty would cover it for another 8.5 years or 76,000 miles, whichever comes first. Another nice perk of the CPO- it would also have 24-hour Roadside Assistance for another 8.5 years regardless of mileage!!!
If you bought a used 2010 Forte from any other source with the same mileage, all warranty coverage would expire in 3.5 years and/or 36,000 miles.
Before making a purchase decision, have you considered a NEW 2011 Forte also? KIA is currently offering some great financing specials on the 2011 models- 2.9% APR for 60 months or 3.9% for 72 months if you qualify. Financing $16k at the 72 month rate would translate into a payment of less than $250/month...or around $287/month for 60 months!
The 2011 model has a new 6-speed automatic transmission in place of the 4-speed automatic used in the 2010 models. The result is an increase in fuel economy from 25/34 to 26/36mpg along with slightly quicker acceleration. They also added features such as a trip computer, outside temp gauge and dual illuminated vanity mirrors to the 2011 EX model.
I highly recommend checking out the new 2011 Forte EX 5-door hatchback. In addition to the improvements on the sedan, it also has sporty 16" alloy wheels in place of the sedan's 15" steel wheels and several other neat features for almost no addition cost! You can buy a new 2011 Forte EX 5-door A/T for around $16,400 here in Atlanta...an incredible value!
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cannga Posts: 20I am having a hard time finding a Pearl White Kia Forte 5-Door Automatic with Navigation. In addition, no dealer in Southern California seems to have any Kia Forte 5-Door with Navigation on the lot. Very disappointing.
1. Is there a reason for the lack of 2011 Kia Forte cars with Navigation option?
2. Will Navigation be more common in 2012 cars?
3. When are 2012 cars coming to dealership lot? I would imagine soon, like the 2012 Huyndai Elantra?
4. If I don't mind waiting, is there away to order a car with specific color (pearl white) and option (nav) I like?
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jessica82 Posts: 3It's hard to say what the dealer actually sold my 2011 Kia Forte Ex 5-door for (with homelink and compass). The buyer's order lists the sales price as $18,340 but the dealer also gave me more on my trade than it was worth ($1,921). The rebates totaled $1,500, and I put down $300. When all was said and done, the total price OTD was $16,329. I think this is a pretty good deal but then I see some getting SX's for around the price I got mine OTD. Hmmm....
cannga Posts: 20>>>First, does the 5-door even come in Pearl White? I thought it came in only clear white.
Thank you. You are correct - the 5-Door does come only in clear white.
I've now been told conflicting "stories" by dealers regarding 2012 cars. One dealer said they're not due until a few months from now, another one - Kia of Glendale - said YES, 2012 cars are in fact coming in 2 weeks. Ahh... salespeople, cannot really trust any of them sometimes.
Could anyone confirm that 2012 cars are coming? And that there is no major change? The second dealer even told me they even have emails/documents noting 2012 are coming, and that the first shipment will be mostly 5 Door version. -
conwelpic Ontario, CanadaPosts: 600Not sure about the US, but in Canada there is no changes on the 2012, just a couple of minor tweaks. Also there is no price change on the MRSRP from the 2011 to 2012 model on either the Koup, sedan or 5-door, again this is for the Canadian market.
My local dealer is expecting his 2012 Forte's to start arriving at the end of this month. -
cannga Posts: 20If you are looking to buy Kia Forte, there is a $1000 cash back offer from Kia that ends in one week. I assume this is to clear out 2011 inventory. Since there is no change from 2011 to 2012, this is an excellent discount.
I successfully got the last fully loaded White 2011 SX 5 Door in Southern Cal for my daughter. The car is fantastic and I predict the Korean companies, Huyndai and Kia, are here to stay and will be giving the Japanese manufacturers very serious competition in the coming years.
Base 2011 SX 5 Door Automatic: 19,395.
With leather/power sunroof/navigation/cargo tray/wheel lock brings total to 23,065.
Freight charge 695, bringing total to 23,760.
The internet department of http://www.teamkiaofelcajon.com/ in San Diego gave me about a $1200 discount (don't call the dealer, go through the web site to get the internet sales department - my salesperson was "Jefff" and he was straightforward and extremely helpful), with the cashback from Kia, I paid $21,573 plus tax for a fully loaded Kia Forte with every option known to mankind LOL. The thing has more options than all our other cars in the family! You name it, this car has it: blue tooth, navigation, push button start, push button door entry (they key fob never leaves your pocket), leather, paddle shifter, expensive looking interior, ipod, auto air control. The navigation system is outstanding and much better than the one in our 5 year old Lexus. The new 6 speed auto (for an economy car!) is perfectly geared for the engine. Of course, it is also beautifully proportioned - a surprisingly attractive car in person. The rear diffuser gave me a chuckle - my P Turbo doesn't even have one :-).
BTW, the SX has the 2.4 liter engine and this makes the car very peppy --- much much much more fun to drive than either Honda Civic or Huyndai Elantra. MPG is not as good of course so if you're looking to save gas, get the 2 liter EX version. Ride is firm (but still comfortable) so this is the car for the sporty crowd. Handling is outstanding - similar to Mazda3 - and the car is more at home in the twisties :-) than any other economy car I've tested. The disc brake is excellent. Overall this is a much better car than a similarly priced Honda Civic, which has a few problems for me: Too weak of an engine, numb steering, and cheap/cheap looking interior.
The Kia Forte SX does not feel like the typical numb and soft and slow-as-molass entry- level economy car at all. What I pleasant surprise. -
rogerd80 Posts: 2OK,
I put together all the prices paid from the blogs I read here. I came up with a game plan to find a new Kia Forte 5 EX with sunroof. It took me two weeks to find a dealer with just that car and who would work a deal with me. Here are the details.
-Trade 2004 Suzuki Grand Vitara 4x4 Auto 125K miles. I got 3,000 for that trade. It was worth it since it needed maintenance soon and guzzled gas.
-I paid 18,684 for the Forte 5 minus rebates of 1,500 ( you get higher interest rate but still save more getting extra 500 rebate and paying one percent higher.) That's 17,184 for the car.
-Plus TTL of 1,696 (1,097 tax but remember its less if you trade in a car) 309 for registration/Title (yes its high but not worth haggling too much plus I get 4 year registration and I was due to renew) finally 290 for documents (more fluff dealer makes money on but what can you do)
-Financed 13,400 after another 2,500 cash down payment.
-215 a month for 72 months (difference between 60 month over the term was a few hundred but you can make it up paying a few more bucks each month. If you get into a money crunch thought it is nice to have a tiny payment like that)
So I am happy and the car is great. I just improved my gas mileage by over 50 percent.
Dealer is in Neptune NJ and ask for Kathy. Believe me I stopped at over a dozen dealers to find this last EX in silver/titanium. I was even in Pa looking. Dealers would not even swap with other dealers to get me this car. It is not as hot as the Accent or Elantra but its close. The SX model is nice but it costs 2,000 more gets less MPG and has just a little bigger engine and shinny pedals. Resale value (who cares, it's a Kia not a Honda)
I owned a 2002 Elantra GT Hatchback. I put 200K miles on it and still got 2,000 dollars for it. Great gas mileage sells itself. Too bad for inflation since I paid 12,500 for that car new and it had leather sunroof auto and 4 wheel disc.
Happy Motoring and hope this helps.
PS: Post more prices paid so we can keep these dealers honest. Some of them made me so pissed of during a process that should be fun
ken117 Posts: 215Today I priced a fully loaded Kia Koup SX with auto, nav, etc. The current Edmunds TMV shows as $22,071 in Maryland. Today the True Car price for this exact vehicle is $21,435, this includes freight and a $213 ad fee which I would question. I have used True Car to purchase a vehicle. A couple of months ago I assisted my daughter to purchase a new Nissan. The True Car price was legitimate. Actually, the Nissan dealer beat the True Car price by a couple of $100 to cover the dreaded doc fee, which I would not pay. Six hundred and thirty-six dollars buys a lot of gas, even at today's prices!
fflat Posts: 1Just bought a Kia Forte EX today! I will not comment on the quality of the car for obvious reasons, but, in regard to price, I went to a local dealership with three no-haggle quotes from truecar.com for an EX with no options (lowest was 16872 or so). They only had one with the premium package (sunroof, alloy wheels, etc.) and the truecar.com price got them to go down to that number (even with the options). In addition, they gave me $500 for my dying '99 buick regal with 170k miles. OTD price was about 17800.
Happy buying! -
eustice Posts: 1We have been unable to find a new 2011 AT ALL. I finally discovered one more than an hours drive away from us in the SX trim rather than the EX that we wanted and could not get an appropriate response to e-mails sent to the internet person (and they're highly rated on edmunds too).
We're buying a 2012 (everyone seems to have THOSE) but it's really quite a bit more than we had hoped to spend. We used the zag.com service offered through USAA that also makes use of truecar statistics (although it seems to lump together the LX and and EX models). I'm very jealous of the last person that posted. Even with $500 incentive and $500 cash for being in the military and the supposed discount "fixed pricing" we're going to wind up paying about $18678 OTD.
Edited: I spoke to soon. After promises of getting the car we wanted they failed to produce. So we're still searching. -
Kirstie_H Posts: 10,918A reporter is looking to speak with someone who has recently traded down from a midsize to a small car, or who recently bought a compact car after shopping both midsize and compacts. Please e-mail firstname.lastname@example.com with a daytime phone contact and a brief description of your experience.
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bd21 Posts: 437I paid $17,713.00 out the door from Dothan Kia in Alabama for a 2012 Kia Forte EX 5-door hatchback, 6 speed automatic in Titanium with a stone interior. The car had auto-dimming mirror w/compass, wheel locks, rear bumper applique, cargo net, cargo tray, splash guards and an I-pod cable. This price included 6% sales tax (I live in Florida) and all dealer processing fees. There was no trade-in.
I got $2,000.00 in rebates ($1000.00 current Kia Forte rebate for this month, $500.00 for being active duty, retired or a member of the reserves, and $500.00 for using Kia financing at 2.9% for 36 months).
It's a quality product and I'm very happy with the car. I don't think you will find a better car for under $20K.


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Minor League righty Walter suspended 50 games
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Difference Between Standard Power 3528 And High Power 5050 LED Strip
Difference Between 3528 and 5050 LED strip
A question we get asked a lot is what is the difference between 3528 LED strip and 5050 LED strip?
We hope the information below gives all the information you need.
3528 LED Strip is 4.8 watts per metre
5050 High Power LED strip is 14.4 watts per metre
5050 Super High Power LED strip is 14.4 watts per metre
3528 LED strip produces 180 lumens per metre on average for white colours
5050 High power LED strip produces 600 lumens per metre on average for white colours
5050 Super high power LED strip produces 1200 lumens per metre on average for white colours
3528 LED strip is 8mm wide and 5mm wide for ultra slim
5050 High power LED strip is 10mm wide
5050 Super high power LED strip is 10mm wide
Images below show the physical differences.
How do I know if I need 3528 or 5050 LED strip?
We would recommend using 3528 for the following uses:
Kitchen under cabinet lighting
Plinth lighting
TV surround lighting
Cornice lighting for a softer glow
Dropped ceiling lighting for a softer glow
Any other application where the object to be illuminated is fairly close to the light source, ie cabinet lighting.
We would recommend using 5050 for the following uses:
Kitchen cabinets where a higher level of light is required
Commercial installations
Domestic installations where a high light output is needed.
Coving recessed lighting
Sign lighting
If you are not sure what you need just ask us, we are always happy to advise, use our form for a fast response.
How quickly will you receive your colour change LED strip light kit?
Our standard colour change LED strip light kits are despatched within 48 hours. If you have requested a custom LED strip light kit please allow 72 hours before despatch.
Can LED Strip Go Around Corners?
Yes absolutely. The LED strip cannot be bent around a 90 degree corner as this will damage the circuit board but you can cut and rejoin the strip to make the corner bend.
We can make this adjustment or a competent electrician can make the adjustments. There are 2 ways of doing this, either, add one of our 90 degree plastic corner connectors (we can do this or we can supply the connectors with your order)
We can cut the strip and rejoin as indicated in the section above, this will allow the strip to go around a 90 degree corner without allowing the LED strip to kink and break the circuit.
If you wish us to do the work for you just use our custom length contact form and we can quote to do the alterations.
Can you make a custom length of LED strip to my requirements?
Yes we can. Please email your requirements on our form below or the navigation bar above and we will respond with a quotation. The 12 volt LED strip has cut points every 50mm and the 24 volt LED strip has cutpoints every 100mm so please allow for this when working out how much you require.
Here are some of the custom things we can do for you:
- Add 90 degree corner joints
- Cut and rejoin the strip with bridge cables
- Extend the length of cable from the power supply to the strip
- Use multiple lengths of colour change strip from one control unit
- Make long kits over the standard sizes we supply (up to 100 metres if required)
- Add different types of LED controllers
- Make custom length of fully waterproof and sealed IP68 LED strip
Can you supply waterproof LED drivers for the custom LED strip light kits?
As standard our LED strip light kits come with non waterproof power supplies but if you have a requirement that will expose the power supply to moisture let us know and we can supply a waterproof power supply to go with your custom length LED strip light kit.
Please note though these are usually more expensive than standard power supplies.
Can you supply dimmer units for the custom LED strip light kits?
Can you supply just the LED strip with no power supply?
Yes. Just contact us with your requirement and we will be happy to quote for just the strip you require. Please be aware that if you intend to use another manufacturers power supply this will invalidate any warranty on our LED strip lights.
Can you run a number of LED strips from one power supply?
Yes absolutely, for smaller kits we have a simple plug in Y splitter that plugs inline, for larger kits we can cut the LED strip into the lengths required and supply a suitable power supply that will allow you to run all of the lengths from a single unit.
Can you supply kits that plug into the mains or hard wire into a 240 volt switch?
Our standard fixed colour and colour change LED strip light kits up to 5 metres come with a UK plug that you can plug in directly or you can remove this plug top and hard wire into a switch.
For longer kits we supply larger power supplies that will need you to hard wire into a mains supply switch or add some flex with a plug to plug into a socket.
How much cable comes as standard with your LED strip light kits?
The Fixed colour LED strip light kits up to 5 metres comes with the following:
- 1 metre of cable from plug to power supply
- 1.3 metres of cable from the power supply to the LED strip
The colour change LED strip light kits up to 5 metres come with the following:
- 1 metre of cable from plug to power supply
- 1.3 metres of cable from the power supply to the colour change unit
- 1 metre of cable from the colour change unit to the LED strip
If you need longer lengths just let us know and we can come up with a solution that fits your requirements.
Can you extend the cables from the power supply?
Yes, just let us know how much cable you need and we can quote for this adjustment to be made.
Can you make the LED strip go around corners?
Yes we can, if you need to take the strip around the corner of a plinth of a cabinet let us know and we can add corner connectors to the kit so that it is all ready to install when you receive it.
The LED strip must not be kinked in any way as this will break the circuit and cause the LEDs to fail. If you are not sure contact us and we will be happy to advise on a solution
I have an area that I want to bridge can you put cable joins in the kit?
Yes we can, just let us know the length of LED strip you need and the lengths of the cable bridges you need and we can make the kit to this specification so that it is all ready for installation.
What lengths of LED strip can you make?
The options are almost limitless. We can make kits up to 100 metres. Just send your requirement though to us with as much information about your installation as possible and we will come up with a solution and cost for the kit.
We will always price the custom length kits with power supply so the kit is ready to go unless you instruct us otherwise.
Due to the 12 volt LED strip having cut points every 50mm and 24 volt LED strip having cutpoints every 100mm along the strip we can only make kits to 50mm or 100mm increments so please allow for this when measuring for your installation.
How quickly will I receive my LED strip light kit?
Standard LED strip light kits are despatched within 48 hours of receipt of order. If you are having a custom kit made please allow up to 72 hours before despatch.
Do you price match LED strip?
We will do better than that! If you find a like for like product anywhere else we will beat it by 5%
How long does LED strip last?
Due to our LED strip using very high quality LED's the rated life of our LED strip is 50000 hours.
What colours of LED strip are available?
We have a large selection of colours available in our LED strip range:
- 3200k warm white
- 4000k white
- 6000k cool white
- Blue
- Green
- Red
- Purple
- Yellow
- Colour Change RGB
Can I use LED strip outdoors?
We always advise that you use the fully waterproof IP68 LED strip for outdoor use. The standard kits we supply come with a non waterproof power supply so this would need to be located indoors. We can supply waterproof power supplies upon request.
Our fully waterproof IP68 outdoor LED strip is made in the factory to order, so make sure you double check your measurements as this LED strip cannot be modified once it is made.
The standard LED strip is laid in a flexible rubber channel and then sealed with a clear rubber to make the strip and connections totally waterproof.
What types can we supply:
12 volt colour change IP68 waterproof LED strip
24 volt colour change IP68 waterproof LED strip
12 volt 5050 high power IP68 waterproof LED strip
24 volt 5050 super high power IP68 waterproof LED strip
24 volt 5050 high power IP68 waterproof LED strip
12 volt 5050 super high power IP68 waterproof LED strip
Please allow 10 working days for delivery of this range of products.
What is the difference between 3528 and 5050 LED strip?
Here are the main differences:
- 3528 LED strip is 8mm wide – 5050 LED strip is 10mm wide
- 3528 LED strip is 4.8 watts per metre – 5050 LED strip is 14.4 watts per metre
- 5050 LED strip produces more light than 3528 LED strip so more suited to larger lighting installations.
Can I use LED strip in my boat or caravan?
The standard LED strip we supply runs on 12 volt DC so will connect in nicely to the 12 volt system on most caravans, motor homes or boats.
We always recommend that there is a fuse added in between the power source and start of the LED strip.
How do I get LED strip to go around a corner?
The LED strip cannot be kinked to go around 90 degree bends as this causes the delicate circuit inside the strip to break.
We advise that the strip is cut and rejoined with 0.75mm red and black cable on the other side of the corner.
If you need this to be done please contact us with your requirement giving as much information as possible and we can email a quote back to you.
What is the difference between the waterproof, water resistant and non waterproof LED strip?
Here are the main differences between waterproof, water resistant and non waterproof LED strip:
IP68 waterproof - Fully waterproof encapsulated in flexible rubber coating for outdoor use
Water Resistant - Self adhesive but with a flexible rubber coating over the LED chips and circuit board
Non waterproof - Bare chips and bare circuit board, suitable for interior applications that will not come into contact with any moisture
What voltage does LED strip work at?
We supply as standard 12 volt DC LED strip but also offer 24 volt LED strip for longer custom lengths.
Can I join LED strip myself?
It is a very simple job all you need is:
- Soldering iron
- Solder
- 0.75mm cable (we can supply this if required)
- Heat shrink (Optional – just protects the soldered joint)
After the strip has been cut across the designated cut point you will see 2 copper terminals on either side of the strip each with be indicated with a + and – sign.
Strip back the insulation by a few millimetres and apply a small amount of solder to the cable ends and solder to the corresponding copper terminal on the strip, avoid prolonged contact on the strip with the soldering iron as this can cause the circuit to burn out.
It is then advisable to use a small amount of heat shrink over the connection to make it look neat and tidy.
Can I cut LED strip to the required length?
LED strip has cut points every 50mm on the 12 volt and 100mm on the 24 volt LED strip these are clearly indicated all the way along the length of strip. All you need is sharp scissors to make a clean cut across the strip.
If you are unsure about doing this let us do the work for you we can custom make the kit to your specific length requirements so all you need to do is plug the kit together.
Please note this does not apply to IP68 fully waterproof LED strip which cannot be cut to length once to have received it.
What is the maximum length of LED strip I can have?
We have systems here that can power up to 100 metres of LED strip, so if you have a large requirement please contact us and we will be happy to quote.
Can I dim LED strip?
Yes you can. We recommend using one of our dimmer units as listed below.
Find out more about our dimmers here.
These dimmer switches simply fit inline on the 12 volt side of the power supply unit.
How much cable do I get with my LED strip?
Our standard kits on the website come with a total of 2.3 metres of cable. 1 metre of cable from the power supply to the socket or switch and 1.3 metres from the power supply to the start of the LED strip.
If you require longer lengths we can do this for a small additional charge. Please contact us and let us know your requirement.
What is the LED strip power supply?
The LED power supply or driver as it is also known is the transformer part of the kit, it converts the 240 volt input into a very safe 12 volt or 24 volt DC output.
How do I attach the LED strip to the surface?
Very simple. The standard non waterproof and water resistant LED strip comes with a super sticky high quality 3M adhesive on the back. You peel off the cover and attach. The adhesive is resistant to moisture and can be reattached if you position it in the wrong place.
The IP68 outdoor LED strip requires you to either attach with a Mastik type bonding agent or you can screw the strip onto the surface with the clips that are supplied.
Where can I use LED strip?
LED strip has a huge number of applications, every week customers seem to be finding new applications for it, below is just a few:
- Kitchen under cabinet lighting
- Kitchen kick plate lighting
- Recessed ceiling trough effect lights
- Display cabinet lighting
- Soffit lighting
- Stairway lighting
- Bar lighting
- Boat lighting
- Caravan lighting
- In car lighting
How does the LED strip connect together?
It is very simple plug and play connection so you can get up and running in 5 minutes. The power supply has a 1 metre kettle style lead that plugs in at both ends. On the strip side of the power supply it is a simple male to female plug connector and viola!
How does the LED strip work?
LED strip is very clever is it a series of LED's along a thin printed circuit board. We supply only top quality 60 LED per metre LED strip to ensure that you get great light output than runs evenly along the strip. Beware of cheaper alternatives that only offer 30 LED's per metre these will obviously not offer such high light output.
What do I get when I buy one of your LED strip kits?
We supply everything you need to get going with your LED strip kit so that it is completely plug and play there are no extras in our prices.
You will get:
- Required length of LED strip
- Power supply
- Pre-wired cable with simple male to female plug on to the LED strip
- Power cable with UK plug
If you are hard wiring your LED strip kit you can remove the UK plug and connect to a junction box. We recommend that an NIC registered electrician carries out this type of installation work.
Standard 8mm or Ultra Slim 5mm 3528 LED Strip - Which To Choose?
3528 LED strip is an industry standard code for these types of LED strip here is a basic specification for both types:
- 4.8 watts per metre
- 180 lumens per metre
- 8mm type is 8mm in diameter
- 5mm type is 5mm in diameter
- 8mm type can be supplied water resistant 5mm type cannot
- Both types are 12 volt DC input from the transformer
- Cutpoints every 50mm
The standard 8mm type is the most popular for most applications with the 5mm ultra slim being used for installs where space is an issue and 8mm wide LED strip will not fit the space it is to be installed.
Popular uses for both 5mm wide and 8mm wide LED strip:
Kitchen under cabinet (8mm water resistant recommended for this)
Kitchen kick plates (8mm water resistant recommended for this)
Display cabinets
Cornice lighting
Dropped ceilings
TV backlighting
If you have any questions please contact us and one of our team will answer your questions promptly.
5050 Fixed Colour LED Strip - High or Super High Power - 12 or 24 Volt - Which to choose?
We have an extensive range of 5050 type LED strip, here is some help with which type to choose.
What does 5050 mean?
5050 is an industry standard for this type of LED strip, it is 10mm wide and 14.4 watts pwe metre with 60 LED's per metre, self adhesive 3M backing (excluding IP68 fully waterproof type)
Should i choose 12 volt or 24 volt type?
If you are looking for kits with individual lengths less than 10 metres the 12 volt type is the ideal choice. If you are looking for much larger and longer installations with lengths up to 19 metres long then the 24 volt type is the one to go for.
12 volt 5050 LED strip will enable a single length of 10 metres after this you get a voltage drop so the LED's go dim. The 24 volt 5050 LED strip allows individual single lengths up to 19 metres long making the 24 volt better for longer and more complex LED strip kits.
High Power or Super High Power?
We offer two power outputs on our range of 5050 LED strip. High power and Super high power.
Both are 10mm wide with 60 LED's per metre and both a re still only 14.4 watts per metre, but the light output is different.
High power 12 volt and 24 volt LED strip is 600 lumens per metre (cool white type)
Super high power 12 volt and 24 volt LED strip is 1200 lumens per metre (cool white type)
As you can see the super high power offers twice the light output to the standard high power which is already pretty bright.
When to Use IP68 Outdoor 5050 LED strip?
This needs to be used in any application outside or where it is likely to be exposed to the elements, it is fully waterproof IP68 rated. When ordering this product each length is custom made in the factory so allow 10 working days for delivery.
Please be aware that the transformer is IP20 rated so needs to be in an enclosure.
What sort of application is 5050 LED strip good for?
Dropped ceilings
Coving lighting
Cornice lighting
Kitchen under cabinet lighting where high light output is required
Outdoor ballustrades (IP68 fully waterproof)
Outdoor soffits (IP68 fully waterproof)
Commerical display lighting
Commerical effect lighting
And many more.......
If you need some more advice use our contact form below and our team will get back to you.
If you burn 12 volt LED strips nonstop every day - how long will it last with their bright shining? Will it become weaker and eventually fade away or just burn out?
They should last about 30,000 hours you will find the LED's will start to fade when they have reached the end of their life.
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Wednesday, April 24 2013
8:00 am – 10:00 am
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Location: Massachusetts Biotechnology Council 300 Technology Square, 8th Floor
There is a growing awareness that legacy physiological readouts in preclinical animal models of movement disorders are not sufficient in describing the interplay between strength, balance, and coordination in ambulation of humans. The diagnosis of amyotrophic lateral sclerosis ["Lou Gehrig's Disease"] in humans currently happens too late for a cure, yet animal studies are advancing our understanding of its pathogenesis that will hopefully lead to better and earlier diagnosis and treatment. This workshop will enable researchers to demonstrate the DigiGait Imaging System, instrumentation for comprehensive motor function assessment in preclinical models of human disorders, including arthritis, Huntington's disease, and traumatic brain injury.....for anything that affects how you and I walk, there is an animal model. DigiGait is the most widely published treadmill gait analysis system available - attend this workshop and learn why!
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Refreshments will be served. Transportation to/from the Convention Center can be provided.
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Please note: this information was current as of October 2005 but is still a useful guide today.
'Detox' or 'liver cleansing' diets have been around for years. Put simply, their intended effect is to purge the body of a supposed build-up of toxins, in order to regain good health.
Some of these diets require enormous dedication, but these days it's claimed you need only purchase a detox kit from the shelves of your local healthfood store, chemist or supermarket, swallow some supplements and follow their dietary guidelines, and in most cases within three weeks you're 'cleansed'.
There's no shortage of glowing testimonials from people who've used detox kits, claiming to feel cleansed, energised and healthier. But when we went searching, evidence-based research to support the testimonials was thin on the ground.
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The seven detox kits we reviewed were:
(Listed in alphabetical order; prices are an average of the retail prices we saw in stores in March 2005) The kits' contents varied, but essentially they all comprise of:
Based on the recommendations in some of the kits, it seems a detox kit can be a useful marketing tool for some of a brand's other products. For example:
Detox kit manufacturers certainly don't waste the opportunity to let you know about other products they sell. There's clearly the potential for you to spend more money on the programs than just the cost of the kit.
Many of the kits (see Detox kits reviewed) refer to the large number of toxins — from cigarette smoke, exhaust fumes and pesticides to caffeine, alcohol and medicinal drugs — that our bodies are exposed to in today's world (see What's a toxin? below, for more). They talk of how toxins accumulate in the body, and of the extra burden this places on the body's natural detoxification mechanisms. And they point the finger at this toxic overload as being behind a host of ills including constipation, bloating, flatulence, poor digestion, heartburn, diarrhoea, lack of energy and fatigue. The kits claim that their detox products "stimulate your body's natural detoxifying functions", "improve the functioning of your digestive system", "work like an intestinal broom", "flush away potentially harmful toxins from your system" and generally give your body a "spring clean" to provide relief from these problems, improve your general health and wellbeing and leave you feeling revitalised.
The short answer is 'no'. As many of the kits themselves point out, our bodies are well-equipped with self-cleansing mechanisms, and detoxification occurs on a continual basis in the body — the lungs, kidneys, liver, gastrointestinal tract, skin and immune system all play a part in effectively removing or eliminating toxins. Symptoms like bloating and fatigue may be an indication of an unhealthy lifestyle, or a lack of vital nutrients because of poor eating habits — not of toxic build-up. For example, constipation, bloating and flatulence can all result from a lack of fibre. And claims that physical side effects of the detox programs like coated tongue, bad breath, fatigue and various aches and pains are evidence that your body is getting rid of toxins just aren't sustainable. HILDE HEMMES' HERBALS, for example, claims that body odour as a side effect of its program "is a good sign as it is the result of toxic elimination". In fact this and nail-polish-remover-smelling breath are both symptoms of your body burning fat while you're on a low-carbohydrate diet (as is recommended by HILDA HEMMES in particular). You can lose a similar amount of body fat by following any calorie-restricted diet, but a more balanced, less extreme one won't have these side effects. The bottom line is that no studies have shown that a detox regimen increases the elimination of toxins.
Dictionaries define a toxin as a poison produced by an organism, which causes disease. But detox kits cast the net wider to encompass any substance with the potential to harm your body. When the kits mention toxins, they're mainly referring to those they categorise as environmental — alcohol, caffeine, medicinal and recreational drugs, cigarette smoke, heavy metals, exhaust fumes, pollution, 'chemicals', preservatives and pesticides, to name a few — which we're exposed to in the air and through our diets. A couple of kits also mention free radicals — internal chemical by-products that can damage our body's cells if more are produced than are neutralised by the body's antioxidants.
Most of the kits we looked at acknowledge that poor diet contributes to the kind of health problems they say are symptoms of a toxic overload, and they all include some kind of dietary guidelines or meal plan for you to follow as part of the detox program. Given the importance of diet for good health, we asked a panel of dietitians to review and comment on the quality of information provided.
Our experts were positive about aspects of some kits' diet plans:
Following these recommendations on their own is likely to result in:
But the kits' diet plans also had problems and/or limitations:
Here are some examples:
Most of the diet plans were considered unlikely to cause any significant health problems if followed for the recommended timeframe. But HILDE HEMMES' HERBALS Detox Program is another story altogether. It's essentially a fast, where nothing but juice and some supplements (including a laxative and a diuretic) are consumed over six or 10 days. It was highlighted by our experts as being potentially dangerous for many people if followed for more than a couple of days.
The premise of the supplements is that to properly stimulate the detoxification process and eliminate waste from your body you need to give nature 'a helping hand'. Most of the kits contain a suite of supplements, the active ingredients (and the claimed effects) of which can broadly be classified as:
While there's evidence for the intended effects of some of the laxatives and diuretics, the experts we spoke to thought the suite of supplements included in the kits has little or no known benefit that wouldn't be acheived simply by following a healthy eating program. A high-fibre diet with plenty of water, for example, can have the same effect as taking laxatives and diuretics (with other nutritional benefits as a bonus). CAUTION: Bear in mind that herbal preparations, like other drugs, can modify chemical processes in the body and interact with other medications, so always speak to your doctor before taking them. The kits all warn detoxers to stop using them or seek medical advice if they experience persistent side effects such as abdominal pain, nausea, vomiting, joint pain, headaches, flu-like symptoms, stomach cramps or diarrhoea.
We wanted to see what impact detoxing would have on people's daily lives, so we recruited three volunteers for the task.
Liz, Zac and Megan were each given one of the detox kits on review to try out. Throughout the detox, they kept a diary recording their experiences. Some common themes ran throughout.
On completion they all felt the detox they'd tried had had some benefits — Zac felt healthier, and Liz felt she had more energy. But all three agreed that they weren't sure what to put the improvements down to. As Megan said, "It feels like my body is functioning better, but it's hard to tell if that's due to supplements or a better diet, restricting unhealthy foods." So did detoxing have a lasting impact? We checked back with our detoxers two months later, and they each noted that they now try to drink more water and eat more fruit, vegies and healthier food in general. Certainly a positive outcome, but what they learnt was no different from the advice given in every sensible diet plan (or CHOICE food article, come to that). Do we really have to spend $50+ and put ourselves through a probably unnecessary detox program before we take any notice?


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His approval ratings are absolutely horrific. Here is arguably the most powerful senator Nevada's ever had and his approval rating rarely gets above forty percent. How does that happen? I don't think you can cite one thing. Certainly, that he is part of the three-headed face of the agenda in Washington—Obama, Reid, Pelosi—has definitely hurt him. His numbers clearly started to suffer when he got into leadership and he's been perceived by some as becoming more of a D.C. denizen than a resident of Nevada; he can't relate to Nevada anymore. All of which Angle has exploited.
There's also something more ineffable and it's something that I like to call "Reid fatigue." He's been in the state in elected office on-and-off for forty years. You have the whole familiarity-breeds-contempt problem. But the intensity of it is what's shocking. People just hate Harry Reid. They would vote for Charles Manson [if he] took up residence in Nevada over Harry Reid.
Sharron Angle's not making the kind of inroads that Charles Manson would?
She has made inroads. But in the six weeks since her primary her campaign has been nothing short of a disaster in some ways. Reid has exploited certain things she's said. He's just pounded her on TV. And her campaign, which essentially has been run out of her living room for every campaign she's run, is struggling now to become a campaign for the highest office in the country beside the presidency.
The Los Angeles Times recently ran a piece on Las Vegas newspapers characterizing the Sun as Reid-friendly and the Review-Journal as hyper-partisan and bent on ousting the senator. How accurate did you feel that was?
There's no question that Brian Greenspun, who's the head of the Sun, supports Harry Reid. But he does not have that much hands-on impact on the Sun and what it does on a day-to-day basis. Would he like to see Harry Reid win? Yes. Do people who work for the Sun know that? Yes. Does he influence day-to-day coverage? I'm not at the Sun, I can't really speak to that, but I don't think so. I know the political reporters and they've done some great coverage.
I've worked for both organizations, and the Review-Journal is a completely different story. The Review-Journal is essentially a part of the "anybody-but-Reid" caucus. It might as well be a PAC the way that it plays stories, slants stories. It's one thing for the publisher, who I believe is clinically obsessed with defeating Reid. But when you have the editor of a newspaper showing antipathy toward Reid and sympathy for Angle in blog posts, and he's supposed to be overseeing supposedly dispassionate coverage, any objective reporter of the scene—as Jim Rainey certainly is at The Los Angeles Times—would come to the same conclusion.
So where do Las Vegas residents get straight news coverage?
I would not say you can't get any straight news coverage in either newspaper; you can. But the Sun is a very different animal than the Review-Journal. It appears daily inside the Review-Journal but it's devoted to doing more in-depth contextual reporting. So it's not an apples-to-apples comparison to compare what the Sun does to the Review-Journal.
The Las Vegas Review-Journal's coverage of the U.S. Senate race cannot be taken seriously and they're the ones who are doing it on a daily basis. Where do you go to get straight news? That's a good question to ask.
Did the rise of Review-Journal darling Angle take you by surprise?
The answer is yes and no. I do these predictions in the first column of the year in January. While I thought Sue Lowden was going to win, I said don't be surprised if Sharron Angle pulls an upset. She was the only one in that very crowded primary who had an actual political base to work off of. And that's what really wins primaries with their low turnouts.
How did Angle win?
She took the race for two reasons. One was because Lowden imploded. She had this infamous "bartergate" chickens-for-welfare thing that she allowed to metastasize. And then the Tea Party Express and The Club for Growth came in and took, again, what I said was a living room campaign, with little money relative to what Lowden had, and juiced her up. They put about a million bucks in.
Angle has spoken about "earned media"; the idea that she won't bother talking to the mainstream media because she can't hawk her Web site and ask for direct donations. She's avoided most unsympathetic media outlets. Is this a new extreme in the way politicians play—and evade—media?