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Hello! Going to sell my house and in the kitchen is the oven I like a lot. It is a 1980s Chambers "Custom Imperial" double oven. It is such a good oven and has served me well for 24 years. My husband is of the opinion that it looks outdated and needs to be replaced for resale of our home(upscale California neighborhood). I have replaced my cooktop, hood, dishwasher, and refrigerator over the past few years. It does not look as updated as the other appliances. I am interested in knowing if YOU would or would not want to buy a house with an old(er) Chambers oven. BTW the oven has black glass on the doors and no digital panels. I am wondering how many people would value this oven and how many would want a bright shiny new double oven or oven/microwave combo. If you favor a new appliance, please let me know if you like double ovens or would prefer an oven/ microwave. Thank you for your opinion! |
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- Posted by palimpsest (My Page) on Mon, May 30, 11 at 20:07
Any chance you like it enough to take it with you? Something like an oven wouldn't be a deal maker or breaker to me, but I think many people would not recognize this oven for what it is, just that it is old. I would hate to see it in a landfill just because it isn't new. |
I would LOVE to have an old Chambers oven, but then I know what it is. It's actually a fancy new Chambers oven if it has glass in the doors. :) Most current ovens are awful! You really might want to think about taking it with you... Definitely prefer double ovens to the microwave combo unless the microwave is a speed oven (which is something expensive you don't need to buy for the new owners). You won't lose a sale on the house because you have obviously older ovens, but it would be a shame to have a Chambers fall into the hands of someone who doesn't appreciate it. Unfortunately, outside of certain, "special" communities, having an option isn't really a good idea, as in leave it there and offer to replace it if they don't value the Chambers. That just confuses the buyers. |
99.9% of the population is going to want new. Most people haven't heard of Chambers since it's been defunct for several decades. "New" or "updated" appliances are the buzzwords that realtors love to use to sell homes. There is a small market for Chambers. I know because I searched for weeks to find my 1950's model 90C range. Check out chamberstoves.net and vintagechambers.com and antiquestoves.net. These usually have places where you can place an ad or check for any wanted listings. You never know, there might be someone out there looking for your EXACT oven. It's worth a shot. Or, as those have already posted - take it with you! |
- Posted by liriodendron (My Page) on Tue, May 31, 11 at 1:18
If you do decide to take it with you (or sell to a Chambers afficianado) make sure it's noted to "not convey". I would combine that with an upfront offer to credit buyers with the purchase price and installation cost of a double oven of the buyers' choice up to a certain figure (that figure would be whatever it would cost to purchase an oven similar to the other updated appliances.) That way the buyer can be sure of having a say in what they get and if they are planning a reno right away they can deal with the whole thing. I did something similar with a non-functioning range in a house I sold a few years ago. Actually the buyers were very pleased to have the credit - as they then bought a more expensive model than I would have installed just for resale. Everybody was happy: I didn't have to deal with hassle of purchasing and installation and they could upgrade on "free money". L |
Your oven sounds like my old one. The hinges on the door broke and I tried for 1 1/2 yrs to get it fixed. I let a repair store take the oven to repair it. They assured me they could. Unfortunately. they could not and they disposed of my working oven. I have been looking in vain for a replacement for 9 months. Everyone tells me I am crazy. But I just liked my oven. If you decide to sell it, would you please let me know? Most people have told me they would rather get a new oven with bells and whistles. I have been without an oven for 9 months just hoping someone would have the more modern Chambers Oven. Even the Chambers afficianados don't believe me that Chambers had a modern built in that worked great. Do what you feel most comfortable with. It will be the right decision for you. SM |
- Posted by purplecats17 (My Page) on Sun, Jun 26, 11 at 17:16
We're replacing our Chambers double wall oven with a stove next month. I'm happy to turn over the oven to someone who will appreciate it. It says Chambers Self Cleaning Retained Heat in gold letters at the top. The doors are black glass. I'm in the San Diego area. |
Can you post pix? If you can sell it to someone who will love it, you can then use the money to put in a new one (or better yet, one from CL). As long as it is from the same era as your current appliances, then you don't need to buy brand new. Some people renovate and get rid of perfectly good stuff that is now the wrong size or wrong color for them. I'd be tickled pink to get a Chambers anything (we have a 1940s era Chambers stove), but I know I am in the minority. |
- Posted by circuspeanut (My Page) on Sun, Jun 26, 11 at 17:47
Twinmom, where are you located? There's a place in New York that sells vintage Chambers ranges and ovens, link below. If you can share your approximate location, there are a lot of us on this forum who regularly scour Craigslist, etc, for deals on vintage appliances, and I bet someone might be able to help you find your oven. I had a similar experience once with a beloved vintage piece and it's an awful loss. Seatraveler, take it with you! In my experience nobody appreciates a vintage appliance like the person who is familiar with its every wrinkle. You really can't get that quality new any more, but I'd wager that 95% of the home buyers out there get the heebie jeebies from someone else's "old" oven. We're definitely taking our 1949 range with us when we go ... :-) |
Here is a link that might be useful: Belgrave Appliance in Yonkers NY
- Posted by ChambersFan (My Page) on Sat, Sep 29, 12 at 15:34
Twinmom, don't know if you're still looking, but I've got a Chambers Double Wall Oven from the 1980s (or possibly 1970s?) with accompanying manual that I need to sell (upcoming total kitchen remodel commencing in about 3 weeks!). Fully functional except for self-cleaning/latch. More photos available (inside, control panel). |
- Posted by circuspeanut (My Page) on Sat, Sep 29, 12 at 16:37
It's odd, isn't it? We left a vintage Chambers range in excellent working condition in our house when we sold it this month, and it got raves from a number of people who made bids. But as it turns out, the actual buyer wants us to take it with us instead of keeping it. So it's a gamble; a lot depends on how old your house is and whether it draws a vintage-soapstone-crowd or a shiny-new-granite crowd. We are now trying to sell our Chambers (white Model C) and hoping there will be a Chambers lover in the Portland ME area who can take it in the next week or so -- |
ChambersFan, that is a gorgeous oven! Seatraveler, I guess I'm one of the foolish ones. I had never heard of Chambers. But the old ovens are the best ovens. I haven't had a good one since 1989 when I lost my antique Kenmore in a divorce. Talk about a broken heart . . . |
Love my Chambers and as you can see just on this thread you have several more that do and one wanting to buy it from you! In the case of a Chambers, 'dated' is a good thing. |
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workers who provide cancer care. These shortages are also spread out across the continuum of care and across geographic boundaries. "We know that where we did discipline-specific recruitment and retention, although we had initial success, that success was not sustainable because this is a multidisciplinary issue and the challenges are universal," Dr. Lichtveld said. She also suggested, because the impending health care shortages create "a growing challenge not only in the quantity of the people, but also in the quality," both the numbers and knowledge of health care workers should be strengthened.
Many presenters suggested taking short-term actions to meet the immediate need for cancer care, such as improving efficiency, recruitment, and retention, as well as pursuing longer-term solutions that involve strengthening and filling the workforce pipeline. Speakers, such as Mr. Salsberg, Dr. Lichtveld, and Dr. Benz, noted that both approaches are necessary, as steps taken now to boost the numbers of cancer care workers are not likely to have an impact until years after the nation already experiences problems due to this shortage.
This section of the workshop summary outlines the major solutions suggested by the various speakers to minimize the impact of the oncology workforce shortage on the quality of care. These included solutions focused on (1) new models of care, (2) recruitment and retention, (3) education and training, (4) research support, and (5) policy.
Developing and using new models of care to help meet the demand for cancer care was explored extensively at the workshop. It is expected that cancer centers, especially those with academic affiliations, will play a large role in developing and demonstrating such new models of care, as these centers or their satellites train most cancer health care professionals, pointed out Dr. Benz. In addition, cancer centers are the hubs for research and have the resources to provide the specialized care required by many patients. They also serve many cancer survivors, a growing population that, as noted previously, is increasing the demand for cancer care. It is estimated that between 15 and 20 percent of cancer patients will encounter a cancer center at some point during their trajectory of care, according to Dr. Benz (NCI, 2007).
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1 But Jesus went to the Mount of Olives. | 1 But Jesus went to the Mount of Olives. |
2 Now early in the morning He came again into the temple, and all the people came to Him; and He sat down and taught them. | 2 At dawn he appeared again in the temple courts, where all the people gathered around him, and he sat down to teach them. |
3 Then the scribes and Pharisees brought to Him a woman caught in adultery. And when they had set her in the midst, | 3 The teachers of the law and the Pharisees brought in a woman caught in adultery. They made her stand before the group |
4 they said to Him, "Teacher, this woman was caught in adultery, in the very act. | 4 and said to Jesus, "Teacher, this woman was caught in the act of adultery. |
5 Now Moses, in the law, commanded us that such should be stoned. But what do You say?" | 5 In the Law Moses commanded us to stone such women. Now what do you say?" |
6 This they said, testing Him, that they might have something of which to accuse Him. But Jesus stooped down and wrote on the ground with His finger, as though He did not hear. | 6 They were using this question as a trap, in order to have a basis for accusing him. But Jesus bent down and started to write on the ground with his finger. |
7 So when they continued asking Him, He raised Himself up and said to them, "He who is without sin among you, let him throw a stone at her first." | 7 When they kept on questioning him, he straightened up and said to them, "If any one of you is without sin, let him be the first to throw a stone at her." |
8 And again He stooped down and wrote on the ground. | 8 Again he stooped down and wrote on the ground. |
9 Then those who heard it, being convicted by their conscience, went out one by one, beginning with the oldest even to the last. And Jesus was left alone, and the woman standing in the midst. | 9 At this, those who heard began to go away one at a time, the older ones first, until only Jesus was left, with the woman still standing there. |
10 When Jesus had raised Himself up and saw no one but the woman, He said to her, "Woman, where are those accusers of yours? Has no one condemned you?" | 10 Jesus straightened up and asked her, "Woman, where are they? Has no one condemned you?" |
11 She said, "No one, Lord." And Jesus said to her, "Neither do I condemn you; go and sin no more." | 11 "No one, sir," she said. "Then neither do I condemn you," Jesus declared. "Go now and leave your life of sin." |
12 Then Jesus spoke to them again, saying, "I am the light of the world. He who follows Me shall not walk in darkness, but have the light of life." | 12 When Jesus spoke again to the people, he said, "I am the light of the world. Whoever follows me will never walk in darkness, but will have the light of life." |
13 The Pharisees therefore said to Him, "You bear witness of Yourself; Your witness is not true." | 13 The Pharisees challenged him, "Here you are, appearing as your own witness; your testimony is not valid." |
14 Jesus answered and said to them, "Even if I bear witness of Myself, My witness is true, for I know where I came from and where I am going; but you do not know where I come from and where I am going. | 14 Jesus answered, "Even if I testify on my own behalf, my testimony is valid, for I know where I came from and where I am going. But you have no idea where I come from or where I am going. |
15 You judge according to the flesh; I judge no one. | 15 You judge by human standards; I pass judgment on no one. |
16 And yet if I do judge, My judgment is true; for I am not alone, but I am with the Father who sent Me. | 16 But if I do judge, my decisions are right, because I am not alone. I stand with the Father, who sent me. |
17 It is also written in your law that the testimony of two men is true. | 17 In your own Law it is written that the testimony of two men is valid. |
18 I am One who bears witness of Myself, and the Father who sent Me bears witness of Me." | 18 I am one who testifies for myself; my other witness is the Father, who sent me." |
19 Then they said to Him, "Where is Your Father?" Jesus answered, "You know neither Me nor My Father. If you had known Me, you would have known My Father also." | 19 Then they asked him, "Where is your father?" "You do not know me or my Father," Jesus replied. "If you knew me, you would know my Father also." |
20 These words Jesus spoke in the treasury, as He taught in the temple; and no one laid hands on Him, for His hour had not yet come. | 20 He spoke these words while teaching in the temple area near the place where the offerings were put. Yet no one seized him, because his time had not yet come. |
21 Then Jesus said to them again, "I am going away, and you will seek Me, and will die in your sin. Where I go you cannot come." | 21 Once more Jesus said to them, "I am going away, and you will look for me, and you will die in your sin. Where I go, you cannot come." |
22 So the Jews said, "Will He kill Himself, because He says, 'Where I go you cannot come'?" | 22 This made the Jews ask, "Will he kill himself ? Is that why he says, 'Where I go, you cannot come'?" |
23 And He said to them, "You are from beneath; I am from above. You are of this world; I am not of this world. | 23 But he continued, "You are from below; I am from above. You are of this world; I am not of this world. |
24 Therefore I said to you that you will die in your sins; for if you do not believe that I am He, you will die in your sins." | 24 I told you that you would die in your sins; if you do not believe that I am [the one I claim to be], you will indeed die in your sins." |
25 Then they said to Him, "Who are You?" And Jesus said to them, "Just what I have been saying to you from the beginning. | 25 "Who are you?" they asked. "Just what I have been claiming all along," Jesus replied. |
26 I have many things to say and to judge concerning you, but He who sent Me is true; and I speak to the world those things which I heard from Him." | 26 "I have much to say in judgment of you. But he who sent me is reliable, and what I have heard from him I tell the world." |
27 They did not understand that He spoke to them of the Father. | 27 They did not understand that he was telling them about his Father. |
28 Then Jesus said to them, "When you lift up the Son of Man, then you will know that I am He, and that I do nothing of Myself; but as My Father taught Me, I speak these things. | 28 So Jesus said, "When you have lifted up the Son of Man, then you will know that I am [the one I claim to be] and that I do nothing on my own but speak just what the Father has taught me. |
29 And He who sent Me is with Me. The Father has not left Me alone, for I always do those things that please Him." | 29 The one who sent me is with me; he has not left me alone, for I always do what pleases him." |
30 As He spoke these words, many believed in Him. | 30 Even as he spoke, many put their faith in him. |
31 Then Jesus said to those Jews who believed Him, "If you abide in My word, you are My disciples indeed. | 31 To the Jews who had believed him, Jesus said, "If you hold to my teaching, you are really my disciples. |
32 And you shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free." | 32 Then you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free." |
33 They answered Him, "We are Abraham's descendants, and have never been in bondage to anyone. How can you say, 'You will be made free'?" | 33 They answered him, "We are Abraham's descendants and have never been slaves of anyone. How can you say that we shall be set free?" |
34 Jesus answered them, "Most assuredly, I say to you, whoever commits sin is a slave of sin. | 34 Jesus replied, "I tell you the truth, everyone who sins is a slave to sin. |
35 And a slave does not abide in the house forever, but a son abides forever. | 35 Now a slave has no permanent place in the family, but a son belongs to it forever. |
36 Therefore if the Son makes you free, you shall be free indeed. | 36 So if the Son sets you free, you will be free indeed. |
37 "I know that you are Abraham's descendants, but you seek to kill Me, because My word has no place in you. | 37 I know you are Abraham's descendants. Yet you are ready to kill me, because you have no room for my word. |
38 I speak what I have seen with My Father, and you do what you have seen with your father." | 38 I am telling you what I have seen in the Father's presence, and you do what you have heard from your father. " |
39 They answered and said to Him, "Abraham is our father." Jesus said to them, "If you were Abraham's children, you would do the works of Abraham. | 39 "Abraham is our father," they answered. "If you were Abraham's children," said Jesus, "then you would do the things Abraham did. |
40 But now you seek to kill Me, a Man who has told you the truth which I heard from God. Abraham did not do this. | 40 As it is, you are determined to kill me, a man who has told you the truth that I heard from God. Abraham did not do such things. |
41 You do the deeds of your father." Then they said to Him, "We were not born of fornication; we have one Father--God." | 41 You are doing the things your own father does." "We are not illegitimate children," they protested. "The only Father we have is God himself." |
42 Jesus said to them, "If God were your Father, you would love Me, for I proceeded forth and came from God; nor have I come of Myself, but He sent Me. | 42 Jesus said to them, "If God were your Father, you would love me, for I came from God and now am here. I have not come on my own; but he sent me. |
43 Why do you not understand My speech? Because you are not able to listen to My word. | 43 Why is my language not clear to you? Because you are unable to hear what I say. |
44 You are of your father the devil, and the desires of your father you want to do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaks a lie, he speaks from his own resources, for he is a liar and the father of it. | 44 You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father's desire. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies. |
45 But because I tell the truth, you do not believe Me. | 45 Yet because I tell the truth, you do not believe me! |
46 Which of you convicts Me of sin? And if I tell the truth, why do you not believe Me? | 46 Can any of you prove me guilty of sin? If I am telling the truth, why don't you believe me? |
47 He who is of God hears God's words; therefore you do not hear, because you are not of God." | 47 He who belongs to God hears what God says. The reason you do not hear is that you do not belong to God." |
48 Then the Jews answered and said to Him, "Do we not say rightly that You are a Samaritan and have a demon?" | 48 The Jews answered him, "Aren't we right in saying that you are a Samaritan and demon-possessed?" |
49 Jesus answered, "I do not have a demon; but I honor My Father, and you dishonor Me. | 49 "I am not possessed by a demon," said Jesus, "but I honor my Father and you dishonor me. |
50 And I do not seek My own glory; there is One who seeks and judges. | 50 I am not seeking glory for myself; but there is one who seeks it, and he is the judge. |
51 Most assuredly, I say to you, if anyone keeps My word he shall never see death." | 51 I tell you the truth, if anyone keeps my word, he will never see death." |
52 Then the Jews said to Him, "Now we know that You have a demon! Abraham is dead, and the prophets; and You say, 'If anyone keeps My word he shall never taste death.' | 52 At this the Jews exclaimed, "Now we know that you are demon-possessed! Abraham died and so did the prophets, yet you say that if anyone keeps your word, he will never taste death. |
53 Are You greater than our father Abraham, who is dead? And the prophets are dead. Whom do You make Yourself out to be?" | 53 Are you greater than our father Abraham? He died, and so did the prophets. Who do you think you are?" |
54 Jesus answered, "If I honor Myself, My honor is nothing. It is My Father who honors Me, of whom you say that He is your God. | 54 Jesus replied, "If I glorify myself, my glory means nothing. My Father, whom you claim as your God, is the one who glorifies me. |
55 Yet you have not known Him, but I know Him. And if I say, 'I do not know Him,' I shall be a liar like you; but I do know Him and keep His word. | 55 Though you do not know him, I know him. If I said I did not, I would be a liar like you, but I do know him and keep his word. |
56 Your father Abraham rejoiced to see My day, and he saw it and was glad." | 56 Your father Abraham rejoiced at the thought of seeing my day; he saw it and was glad." |
57 Then the Jews said to Him, "You are not yet fifty years old, and have You seen Abraham?" | 57 "You are not yet fifty years old," the Jews said to him, "and you have seen Abraham!" |
58 Jesus said to them, "Most assuredly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I AM." | 58 "I tell you the truth," Jesus answered, "before Abraham was born, I am!" |
59 Then they took up stones to throw at Him; but Jesus hid Himself and went out of the temple, going through the midst of them, and so passed by. | 59 At this, they picked up stones to stone him, but Jesus hid himself, slipping away from the temple grounds. |
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This blonde bombshell was out partying on spring break and when she saw the Girls Gone Wild bus she knew that she had to commemorate the occasion with a tattoo. Unfortunately, the tattoo was only temporary. Mekhael had a few different places she was thinking of placing the tattoo, in the end we suggested to put it close to her heart. We'll always remember this crazy blonde for all the good times.
"The best tits" in town is a bold claim to make. We have seen some amazing breast here while we were around filming spring break. Surreptitiously she removed her bra and freed her beautiful breast from their cotton confines. This is where we get our first glimpse of how great her figure truly is. We begin to see she has something special to bring to the table, and it was not just talk. This girl just might have what it takes to take the title of the best tits in town.
Birthday girl had a sash on, and she was with her best friend celebrating the all-important 21st. The two got pretty wild when the MC invited them on the stage to dance for beads. Before we knew it, the curly haired brunette girl started flashing her tits to the crowd. The birthday girl got into the heat of the moment and started kissing her friend.
This sexy blonde knows how to cool off. She snuck us into the back room, behind the bar, to their ice machine. Taking a cube she rubs it all over her boobs. That ice cube did not stand a chance after being rubbed all over this hot blonde's body. We are surprised the ice didn't start sizzling after coming into contact with her perfect tits.
Lauren was one shy blonde, or so we thought. She teased us and played hard to get even though deep down, she wanted to be on Girls Gone Wild. Despite what we had originally thought of this college cutie; she was surprisingly open. We had assumed she was just a tease and rather reserved. It turned out that she just wanted a more private space to show off her wild side. This was the craziest thing she had ever done, but she took it in stride and flashed us with her perky tits.
This wild girl is sexy. It is little wonder that the girl who made out with her for three hours wanted more. Unfortunately for that unlucky girl, Kara did not want to go any farther with her. Kara left her with nothing more than a blue bean. We applaud Kara's make out endurance, but our hearts go out to the girl who could not quite make it to second base with this beautiful brunette. Fortunately for us Kara wanted to get topless for Girls Gone Wild.
A friend in need is a friend indeed as these girls love to help each other get off. These hot brunettes always put friends first. When one of the sexy brunettes lifted up her tank-top, it was more than natural for her friend to go straight or the nipple. We get the feeling it was not the first time they have gotten wild for an audience, and we certainly hope it is not the last time they get wild!


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Mine are hardy hibiscus, cannas, passifloras(inside for the winter)like to try a tropical look for our short summers sometimes works sometimes not. So whatta you like to grow? |
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- Posted by Wendy_the_Pooh USDA 2003 z5/6 (My Page) on Thu, Sep 11, 03 at 1:43
Okay, here I am again. I think people will get tired of hearing from me! favorite thing? favorite thing? Ornamental grasses like feather reed grass, miscanthus, et al. Toadlily - the northern gardener's version of an orchid. Queen of the Prairie, Oriental Lily, Phlox (Flamingo here) and Clematis, Buddleia, Purple Coneflower, etc. etc. etc. Wendy |
Favorite? Just one? I have too many favorites, so I'll try to contain myself. Conifers, so many interesting ones, and some very cool dwarfs. Color in the winter landscape too. I have a small but neat collection of pines and chamaecyparis going. Deciduous trees with 4 season interest. (Form, bark, something good going on all year long) River birch, Katsura, Amelenchier, Cornus, Halesia, stewartia, japanese maples, sigh, so many great trees! Shrubs. Rhodies, enkianthus, fothergilla, hamamellis, and boy I could go on and on, lol. Grasses. I'm particularly on love with miscanthus and some of the 'dead' sedges. Alos really like hakonechlea. Perennials. I like shade plants the best right now. I really tend to grow things for foliage, and there are so many fascinating woodland plants. Arisaema, ligularia, bergenia, rodgersia, ferns galore, pinellia, and off I go again! I do love roses, big full loaded with petals and stinky! David Austins, Romanticas and so forth. Hot Cocoa is a real winner here too. Great color and a workhorse bloomer. I love my garden! |
- Posted by woodviolet z5 NY (My Page) on Thu, Sep 11, 03 at 9:34
I definitely can't pick one favorite, it kinda depends on the season. Right now my ornamental grasses are spectacular, as is the blue spirea and plumbago. Dahlias are going nuts. Next year I'll start a shade bed and that will open up a whole new world of plants, right now I have mostly sun-lovers. I'm looking forward to fall foliage (already saw some up north, it's coming!) and the change of seasons..... |
My favorite things are the makings of sauce--tomatoes, peppers, garlic and basil. Garlic and basil don't have a problem. Tomatoes and peppers are a challenge. I like to pick out a few longer-season varieties each year and try to see them through to harvest. I use Wall o' Waters in the spring and covers in the fall. |
my favorite upstate plants that I miss living in SoCal: Lilacs |
- Posted by BurghGarden z5Troy,NY (My Page) on Thu, Sep 11, 03 at 17:47
I love my purple flowering raspberries, summersweet, pagoda dogwood, amelanchier to name a few. |
- Posted by Waplummer Z5 NY (firstname.lastname@example.com) on Thu, Sep 11, 03 at 20:33
Flowering trees Native shrubs Native woodland flowers Hardy Ferns - both native and exotic, e.g Adiatum venustum Arisaemas Rhododendron Mountain Laurel Rock Garden plants Epimedium Hellebore Astilbe Small and dwarf Hosta Asian Maples |
I love things with good fall color (euonymus alata 'Compacta' is always good, rugosa roses for their hips, asters and hardy mums for the fall flowers). I like lilacs ('Krasavitsa Moskvy' is a show-stopper for me), and tall bearded irises, and all sorts of spring-blooming bulbs, especially daffodils. I'm just starting to grow soft fruits (black raspberries, blueberries, and black currants). I grow pumpkins for my kids (although this was a very sad year for pumpkins, squashes and melons - I have ONE tiny pumpkin for my efforts, so I see a trip to the "pumpkin farm" coming in October), and my "salsa" garden (tomatoes, peppers, onions, garlic). I tried to grow watermelons this year, without success. Oh, well, I'll try again next year! It couldn't possibly be as wet and cool as this summer - could it?? L. |
- Posted by Wendy_the_Pooh USDA 2003 z5/6 (My Page) on Thu, Sep 11, 03 at 21:36
Laurelin, we must live a few miles apart! We live in the Town of Binghamton. It's interesting that you speak of the one Lilac I would really want if I had room, 'Krasavitsa Moskvy'. I've seen pictures of it, and it is a knockout. I've thought about growing a currant bush too, but again, where do I have the room? Maybe I'll find it somehow. Nice to meet you, neighbor! |
- Posted by FlowerPower_Zone4 Catskill Mtns. (My Page) on Fri, Sep 12, 03 at 7:44
Binghampton is about 1 1/2 hrs from me. Take 88 right there. lol I like to grow Bee Balm, Spring Bulbs,Colored Yarrow, Peony etc The list could go on and on FlowerPower |
Waplummer, It seems that we have similar interests in plants. Have you ever been to or ordered from Seneca hill perennials? She has a very interesting selection of woodland plants. I also like Fairweather. Starina |
- Posted by snowcrystal222 12404 (My Page) on Sat, Sep 13, 03 at 18:30
I love having my tropical banana trees outside all winter. I also have hardy bamboo and this year will be trying to winterize my hardy palms outside, if it works!! |
Hello Wendy - I live in Endwell. Nice to meet someone who's practically around the corner! I got my currant bushes from Miller's in Canandaigua, because they were CHEAP and would grow and fruit in partial SHADE. They don't take up much space - who knows, you might find a corner to put a few in. . . . I'd like to try tricyrtis (toad lily) - I'm starting a woodland garden, after thinking about it for five years in this house and being annoyed by the long bare strip under a line of hemlock trees. So far Hosta is the champion groundcover there, but I'm also trying creeping wintergreen and lady ferns and rhododendrons (which will doubtless need some supplemental watering under those dense, thirsty trees). I'd like to try trilliums, but they're a bit pricey. We'll see. . . . You know, people complain about the weather up here all the time, but we can grow A LOT more than we think we can. Managing the microclimates in my yard has been an education as far as what will live and thrive up here with our schizo winters. If you have a "hot spot" in your yard, or a warm sheltered corner, try something tender - you might be surprised! L. |
Snowcrystal, I have hardy bamboo also. Which of the bananas do you grow, and what zone are you? I'm thinking of trying one of the bananas here next year. Starina |
Mishy posted what she misses growing in NY. I totally agree with her list, plus need to add a few more: crocus |
- Posted by adkmountaingirl z4 NY (My Page) on Mon, Sep 15, 03 at 12:57
Woodviolet: What kind of ornamental grasses do you grow? Are they native to the area...? I'm looking for grasses native in zone 4 (Saratoga area) and other than Indian Grass and the blue stems, I'm not sure what other natives I might have success with. Any suggestions? adkmountaingirl |
- Posted by bamboogrrrl z5 NY (My Page) on Mon, Sep 15, 03 at 14:55
Peonies. I'd have bazillions if I could. So far I only have 25, with six more on the way this fall. Japanese maples, sugar maples (dh makes syrup every year), hollyhocks, daylilies, bulbs galore; hydrangea! Dogwoods, fresh garden tomatoes. Roses when they survive… Butterfly bushes and oriental poppies. |
- Posted by BurghGarden z5Troy,NY (My Page) on Mon, Sep 15, 03 at 20:20
adkmountain girl: Some of the native* grasses we've been growing are; northern sea oats and bottlebrush grass in dry areas that get light shade; 'Shenandoah' switchgrass (likes it moist - I know Saratoga County soils can be pretty dry)in sunnier areas. I've had a lot of success with these. Also, I've been growing Pennsylvania sedge as a low (2-3")turf in a dry, acidic, shady area of my yard and it is doing really well. It is taking a while to fill in, but it is lovely and worth the wait. It is native too. *I'm not sure if northern sea oats is native this far north. |
Every year my 'favorite' changes to something new! Laurelin is right - we can grow so many things here. I'm so glad we don't live in an area where only cacti thrive! My favorite this year was the Elephant Ear bulbs. They are just incredible!!! They take a long time to emerge from the ground and can't be overwintered outside in our area from what I have read. I have dug my bulbs and put them in giant pots earmarked for the basement when the temps drop. They should sprout earlier next season if they are kept inside with warmer temps during early spring. It's a lot of fussin' for a few bulbs but they are so worth it! |
- Posted by adkmountaingirl z4SaratogaCo,NY (My Page) on Tue, Sep 16, 03 at 13:15
Hi, BurghGarden: Thanks for the suggestions. Parts of my 1/2 acre (in Wilton, just north of Saratoga) are all clay, parts all sand, and the rest a mix of both. What kind of soil requirements do the northern sea oats, PA sedge and bottlebrush grass need (besides dry and shade?). Also, how high do they get? FYI: Most of my yard is in the sun for 1/2 to 2/3 of the day. Any native ornamental grasses that might like these sunny conditions? Hope you (and anyone else with some success with native ornamental grasses) find the time to reply!! Thanks! :) adkmountaingirl |
- Posted by sherwoodfarm 5aNY (My Page) on Tue, Sep 16, 03 at 19:36
Hi to all, My favorites: Daffs, peonies, oaks, daphne (Carol M.), Exbury Azaleas, lavender, lilacs. Indoors & protected: Figs, my big old stag horn fern, rosemary. Maybe we should do a thread on specific varieties of various types of plants that do OK up here in the chill. I get zone-envy when I search on some of the plant specific threads on other forums where there are gardeners from *down below*. (and I don't mean Australia!) I live in northern Rensselear county, east of Troy. I'm at least a solid 5a, if not teetering into 4b. But I resolutely buy things that are zoned for a low 6. After all maybe plants can't read the maps! Nancy |
- Posted by BurghGarden z5Troy,NY (My Page) on Thu, Sep 18, 03 at 19:31
Hi again Adkmountaingirl: I believe all three are generally adaptable as far as soil type is concerned. My soil is loamy and they all do well here. Northern sea oats is happier with more moisture, where it will self seed quite a bit. However, it also does well in drier spots. With less moisture it does not get quite as tall or self seed as much. It will grow up to 4'. PA sedge doesn't like heavy clay. It typically grows on upland sites under oaks where the soils are acidic and relatively dry. Mine are growing under Amelanchiers, which they seem to like. It is short, only growing to about 6". The bottlebrush grass grows anywhere it is shady in my yard. It grows to about 18". Hope this answers your questions. Also to Sherwoodfarm (Nancy): Hello up there. We're Zone 5b down here. |
- Posted by Wendy_the_Pooh USDA 2003 z5/6 (My Page) on Thu, Sep 18, 03 at 20:53
Bob, Two questions: 1) I just planted Northern Sea Oats between Rudbeckia 'Goldsturm' and Lemon Balm in a balanced (water-wise) spot. Which do you think will be the "winner", as in dominate? 2)Are you aware of the USDA zone changes? I'm still not used to it, even though I've known about it for many months. We used to be in Zone 5A, and now we're in Zone 5/6. Wendy |
Here is a link that might be useful: New USDA Zone Map
I think Delphinium is my favorite. It blooms two times here in one season, and is just SO FANTASTIC. I have several kinds in my garden, which were here when I moved in 2 years ago. My other favorite is poppies. I discovered them while I lived here... both the perennial and annual types. I can't wait to winter seed the annual seeds I got this year.... the ones I have planted in the past just reseed themselves, so I have great hope for new varieties to establish themselves. My garden came with so many peonies. I have to say though, that I haven't found an interest in them. To me, they seem to be in the way... they get heavy, and cover everything else. I've taken out a lot of bushes, and 'sort-of' transplanted them out of my garden (I really have a difficult time just throwing them in the compost heap). If they survived the move, I would like to trade them for plants I don't have.... and I'd love to do local trades... Otherwise, I haven't had a vegetable garden in quite a few years now. I'm hoping that when my twinfants are a little bigger, I can get back into that. Right now, I'm just tending-to and adding-to the big perennial garden. Oh, I forgot how many trades I did for iris this year.... lots... so that means that iris has to be on my list of favorites. It just seems like spring was SO LONG AGO! I almost forgot about them! |
- Posted by Wantoretire z4 NY (My Page) on Tue, Oct 14, 03 at 19:40
Woodviolet - Plumbago in NY?? I had 3 planted in So. California but had no idea they grow here. Will surely have to check that out. CJ |
- Posted by upstategardener z5NY (My Page) on Tue, Oct 14, 03 at 21:49
Peonies definitely...Trees for color and shade, Lilies, Tulips, Iris....and many more Our Ribbon grass and Blue Fescue do very well |
that is a hard question. deciduous tree = japanese maple or a weeping willow coniferous = scotch pine herb = chives flowers = montauk daisy groundcover = scotch moss/irish moss mixed shrub = junipers of every variety |
- Posted by FlowerPower_Zone4 Catskill Mtns. (My Page) on Wed, Oct 15, 03 at 7:06
Wendy, I believe the Lemon Balm will win in the end. It spreads like mad, but I still love it. lol I saw someone mentioned Toad Lily. I just got some. Very nice flowers. Hopefully, it will overwinter.Also, I was wondering about the hardy Bamboo. How quickly does it spread? I would love to grow it. Thanks |
FlowerPower, There are two types of hardy bamboo; Clumping, does not spread, increases slowly, and running, increases fairly fast, new culms can pop up at least as far away as the bamboo is tall. Starina, trying not to blow away p.s. I forgot to mention that there are effective ways to keep the running boo from spreading about as it pleases |
- Posted by FlowerPower_Zone4 Catskill Mtns. (My Page) on Thu, Oct 16, 03 at 5:59
Thanks, Starina, I will look into the clumping variety. Glad you did not blow away! FlowerPower |
- Posted by Gardener_Greg z5 NY (My Page) on Sun, Dec 21, 03 at 20:46
My top choice in my garden would be Stewartia pseudocamellia-Japanese Stewartia. It is beautiful in any season and extemely hardy. |
- Posted by Maureen1953 Z4 Central NY (My Page) on Mon, Dec 29, 03 at 22:29
My #1 favorite thing to grow is garlic, the soil is just right for huge bulbs to grow and is a no work crop...just plant in fall, harvest in summer! Saying that, I love to grow all kinds of plants, roses, lilacs, perennials, annuals, berries, herbs, veggies. Just talking about it makes me yearn for spring! |
How does Astilbe weather in this area? I live in Oswego about four miles or so from the lake. Will that be warm enough for the Astilbe or should I cover them up in the late fall? |
Well, I don't have much experience, but it's Impatiens and herbs so far. Last year, the Impatiens absolutely exploded out of the front flower bed, making my mother-in-law so happy she was besider herself (her previous daughter-in-law never bothered to plant anything in the yard). I also planted Rosemary, Oregano, Thyme, Lemon Balm, and English Lavendar. All but the Rosemary are flourishing this year already. |
- Posted by Turtle_Haven_Farm Z5 NY (My Page) on Tue, Jun 8, 04 at 10:55
LBlack 61: I planted Astilbe for the first time last Spring for a Gurney's special. It came up OK, but I figured after this winter,it was a goner. But lo and behold, it's back!!! And better than last year!!! Looking forward to it blooming again. Must be tougher than I thought! - Ellen |
My number one favorite has to be tender Salvias like Guaranitica Black and Blue and Salvia Elegans. I also love the hibiscus in all their forms. I am trying a Passiflora for the first time (thank you again Husky!) and I am sure that it will be right up at the top of the list with my salvias. I really enjoy the challenge of raising tropicals also. Penny |
Thanks, Ellen! That's great to hear...it's so striking and different looking that I really want it to stick around for a long time. I have it planted on either side of "Silver Mound" which I planted a few weeks ago in two flower beds. |
My favorites are vegetables: Cukes, tomatoes, peppers, pumpkins, winter and summer squashes, green beans, corn. Now that my two little guys are 8 and 5 years old, I finally did have time for a few flowers from seed this year. I grew marigolds and impatiens and have 6 pots (with a few gifts and wal-mart marigolds added) on my front steps. |
- Posted by stewartiajon z6 CT (My Page) on Fri, Nov 26, 04 at 13:31
Stewartia koreana. I have a bunch that I started a few years ago and gave to family and friends and they live in upstate New York and in New Hhampshire. The trees are beautiful and doing very well. I have also shipped twoa seedlings to a friend in Minnesota and it is thriving out there too. |
Some of my favorites: Chionanthus Retusus (Chinese Fringetree) Vaccinum Corybulsom (blueberries) Viburnums Acer Japonicum and Palmatum Pinus Cembra Abies Koreana |
WOW this thread goes wayyy back. SInce my last post I have been enjoying growing cannas from seed and I have just started my first perennial vine from seed ... Carolina Jessamine. Salvias, Agastache and Penstemons still top the list though. Penny |
I'll add Stewartia Pseudocamellia to the TOP of my list. Just purchased a 5' with absolute gorgeous form. This tree has superior quality. What a looker! |
I love hostas, daffodils, Diablo Ninebark, Rose of Sharon, Rogusa Roses, Columbine, Yarrow...the list goes on. |
At this point, it's ANYTHING! I am so excited about expanding my beds this year I don't know what to do with myself. And to see everything waking up from the winter sleep is just so comforting. I'm even doing container gardening this year. Each plant seems to have it's own kind of reward. Herbs are always a favorite for me because not only can I use them to cook and such, but the bees and butterflies love them. The Yarrow from last year looks like it never died. The Sweet William never did either-- I took clumps off of it to plant elsewhere. The Cornflower I WSed is about 7 inches high already and it's been in the ground since late March. And I just picked up some trailing Geranium and Non-Stop Begonias at a nursery near Cooperstown (the Begonias wowed me to no end. I couldn't leave without some). I now have a better looking shade garden plan than I ever intended! I thank God for the opportunity to garden and all the help GardenWeb folks have given me :-) |
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Can you really sow tomatoes from seed using the winter sowing method? Since they love the heat of the summer, I would have thought they would have to be sowed in the spring....
Also, I only have enough room in the sun for 4-6 plants and since it is only myself and my daughter... that is actually plenty. If I participate in Trudi's WONDERFUL tomato seed SASBE, I will have WAY TOO MANY seeds. Still, I would love to try some of the cool varieties she has listed. Can the seeds be saved for a second year - will they still be viable? I sure don't want to waste any and since my quantity is so small, in the past, I have just purchased 4-packs of seedlings and given away my extras. They weren't any fun, unusual varieties though. Thanks!
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Yes, you can WS tomato seeds--that's why I began giving them away ;-) Tomato seeds last a very long time, viability drops about the fourth or fifth year, but you should still get some plants from an old pack of seeds--and from those plants you save seeds from their fruits to refresh your seed stock. T |
- Posted by token28001 zone7 NC (My Page) on Mon, Nov 9, 09 at 16:25
Sow them like you would other tender annuals. I sowed mine in early April here in zone 7 with a typical last frost of April 15-20. |
- Posted by disneynut1977 5A Syracuse NY (My Page) on Tue, Nov 10, 09 at 16:53
Hi Bettylu, I have alot of tomato seeds, OP and a few hybrids. I was gonna send my extra's I'm not using off to Trudi soon, but if you want I can send my list to you and LMK if you want anything. All I need is 1 unused stamp sent to me and I can send them back in a thank you card. I have never had a problem with tomato seeds going through the mail. Melissa P.S. regarding your post. WS tomatoes are so much easier. I'm starting mine indoors this year though, due to that I'm only doing mid-late types, except for my SunGolds. Zone 5 only leaves so much time for ripening. |
- Posted by bettylu_zone6a St. Louis, MO (My Page) on Tue, Nov 10, 09 at 17:34
Thanks for the offer! I would take you up on it, but since Trudi replied that the seeds would stay viable for a few years, I went ahead and filled out her form for requesting tomato seeds and mailed it today. I am going to grow some for my sister, my daughters, and friends too, so they won't go to waste! I am really looking forward to trying some new varieties grown from seed. Last spring I actually had some "volunteer" tomatoes come up unexpectedly and it was actually VERY FUNNY because I couldn't figure out where the tomato plants were coming from in all my hanging baskets, etc LOL Apparently I had tossed frost-killed tomatoes in my compost pile and they broke down over the winter and I forgot about them until they started growing EVERYWHERE, but unfortunately they didn't have the flavor of the parent plants - which won't happen with the heirloom varieties, I believe. BettyLu |
Hi Betty, I too was surprised when I first learned one can WS tomatoes. I did some Sungolds last year and had a couple ripe tomatoes before July 4th. Trudi has lots of info on her site as to how to WS tomatoes. I find it way easier than growing under lights and transplanting. If you want some ripe tomatoes earlier in the season be sure to select a variety that has an earlier DTM date. -StLGirl |
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- Posted by belgianpup Wa/Zone 8 (My Page) on Wed, Nov 11, 09 at 1:35
Maybe you can WS tomatoes where springs get hot fast, but you sure can't in the Pacific Northwest, because they don't sprout until mid-July! If the soil in your containers doesn't reach 75-78F fast, your seeds won't sprout until it does. That's July, here, and that means we would get plants, but no ripe tomatoes before the frost zaps them. There is a difference between if you CAN sprout certain species using WSing methods, and if you SHOULD do it that way. I use WS for many, many things, but not for tropical types that need heat to sprout and need a relatively long growing season. Your best bet may be to start a few plants indoors so you can plant them out when the soil warms up, and try WSing a few more. Then you'll know if it's a viable method for your area. Sue |
I agree with belgianpup about wintersowing tomatoes in the PNW. We just don't warm up fast enough for tomatoes and peppers so they are the ONLY things I use a heat mat to start. I move them off the mat and into the cold frame as soon as possible, so they still are very hardy plants. I have tried wintersowing them, and while they sprout okay in May or June, we don't have the "heat" days to mature them before the first frost. I did get lots and lots of little green tomatoes though. |
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http://www.theatlanticwire.com/politics/2013/06/berlin-obama-2013-vs-2008/66388/ 200K in 2008 6K today
It's bulletproof glass for the "invite only" guests. You know, because everyone that has an "exclusive" "invite only" function feels the need to keep themselves protected against the rowdy bunch that Obama invited.
That's funny, I guess the Germans aren't amused with his lying either. I guess that just plays well in the Muslim world.
But it was the sun's fault http://www.nationalreview.com/351447/matthews-berlin-sun-ruined-obamas-speech-andrew-johnson
That Chris Matthews sure has become a worthless pile of crap... He is awful at nearly biblical proportions.
I remember the crowd looking quite bored back in 2008. Obama just wanted the media to top Hillary's so-called million mom march that wasn't.
Did you guys read the comments about Obama... he's lost all credibility as a uniter and has lost his mass appeal. 4000 people showed up, maybe... He's just a bad joke that the world has to endure for 3.5 miserable more years.
Media are blaming the sun and the heat. But I thought rock stars loved such an environment. Maybe the teleprompter melted.
Too bad it wasn't like transition lenses that turned dark in the sun and no one would have to look at the POS.
It was so exclusive that only 4,500 of 6,000 invited showed up. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Talk about a media manufactured leader.
Maybe the smaller crowds means he won't still be president for the next 3.5 years. Let me Google that... ...nope, turns out whether 4500, 6000, or 100,000 people see him speak in Germany, he's still going to be President for his full term.


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October 26, 2012
"Kid Date Night" Envelope Part 2
by Robin
Yes you read that correctly, Part 2 is here!
You loved our Kid Date-Night Envelope so much, we decided to make another. If you missed that post, click here to check it out! Basically, this is an envelope filled with something SUPER fun for those sweet kids of yours to do while mom and dad are away on a date. It makes the part of actually LEAVING on a date SOOOO much easier! In our previous post, we had two complete AWESOME games that kids love that fit right inside the envelope.
So go and check out the Kid Date Night Envelope post and then come on back….
No seriously, I'll wait. Go! Haha
For this envelope goody, like before, you will need the printable that says 'do not open until mom and dad are on a date.' Find that HERE.
Attach that to a manilla envelope and leave it on the counter in the MORNING of your date-night day.
You can choose to put our 'Don't Eat Pete' game from our Part 1 post, our 'Kit-Kat Game' from our Part 1 post, OR our NEW treasure hunt activity to put inside!
But, whatever you do, REMEMBER to put one and only one of these inside the envelope! That way, you will have other resources for future date nights. Also never, I repeat NEVER let your kids play with the envelope contents EXCEPT on date night! By doing that, they will LOOK FORWARD to your date-nights and practically kick you out the door so that they can get to their envelope.
Here's what you need:
#1) The Letter from Mom and Dad
#2) The Clues
Print the letter and cut out the clues. You'll need to put the letter from Mom and Dad inside your 'kid date night envelope' along with ONE of the clues. And then I am guessing you all know how a treasure hunt goes, right?? If not, you will basically hide the next clue where the previous clue has directed them to go.You can start with whichever clue you choose. For my hunt, I started with the clue that has the shoe on it in the envelope, so I hid the clue after that in my closet
Once the kids had this clue in hand, they ran to my closet where they found… yep! Another clue. And so-on and so-on. The last clue you have will direct them to a place where the treasure will be waiting! My kids had a BLAST! Did I even need to say that? I mean obviously, right?? What kid doesn't LOVE a treasure hunt!
They found this clue last, and headed to the kitchen where their 'treasure' was stashed in the oven. he-he
Our treasure was simple: a bag of microwave popcorn, a little treat for each of them (don't forget your sitter!), and a redbox movie. They thought that was great, but be as creative as you want! The possibilities are endless!
This activity for the kids will need a little prep time. I set this all up while mine were at school and the little one was napping. I tried to make these clues lead to places that wouldn't be accidentally found between the time they got home from school and the time we left on our date and it worked out well! I am going to use these clues over and over but mix them up each time so that their treasure will always be in a different place.
This envelope is working for me like magic! My kids seriously can NOT wait for me to go out with their dad! I used to feel bad if they didn't want to be home with the sitter and that was NO BUENO for date night. I would either not go, or go and feel guilty the whole time and want to call them every 5 minutes which made date night not too fun for my husband OR me. But when my kids see this envelope on the counter in the morning, they actually ask me all through the day when I am going to leave! They love it!
How is the kid date night envelope working out for you??
Please leave a comment below, I'd love to hear what you are doing with the envelope!
For some 'grown-up' treasure hunt fun, check out Corie's 'Scavenger Hunt For You' date, learn how to make an AWESOME treasure map HERE, or find a great PIRATE ADVENTURE from a Little Tipsy by clicking HERE and scrolling down
And if you want it to get even EASIER check out this fun Scavenger Hunt for Kids. There wouldn't be a treasure at the end since this is a scavenger hunt, but it would keep little ones busy hunting for hours!
Have fun!
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This looks like so much fun and I love that even my little one wil be able to run around the house looking for clues:)
Thanks so much ladies for all the wonderful work you do. My family and I greatly appreciate all the efforts on your behalf!!!!
Can't wait to have the treasure hunt for the kids on our next date night. They are going to love it.
This is such a fun idea. I love the printables to make implementing your ideas so much easier for busy parents.
We've used these the past few times we've gone out. And you are not kidding about the kids' reaction! We have four kids, and they BEG us to schedule date nights!!! Awesome job, ladies!
Hey Robin,
So I am 16 and have tried everything from your part one and part two and it works like a charm thanks soooo much it was a huge help and now they cant wait till i come back to babysit.:) -
Are the printables still available for this Scavenger Hunt (for the Kid Date Night Envelope)? I'd love to do this but the links don't seem to work for the printables.
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Cubase 7.5 from Steinberg is the latest incarnation of the fully featured audio and MIDI recording/editing digital audio workstation that's widely popular with all types of creators. The entire mixing console has been overhauled with an updated GUI and features a full-screen mode, total scalability, and quick in-place access to the parameters most relevant to the task. And for quick composition, a Chord track sits alongside the innovative Chord Assistance feature.
For the songwriter the software offers a full complement of creative tools that are both easy to use and musical, including automatic voicing harmonization and thousands of instrument sounds and loops that help to bring ideas to life. For bands recording themselves, the integrated mixing desk combines flexibility with channel strip modules for pro-console sound, while the Control Room section can provide each member with an individual cue mix.
The software is also well tailored to professionals working in the music, film and game industry. For working on Hollywood blockbusters or popular TV series, Cubase features a separate video track, a scalable video window, and a score editor featuring over one hundred notation symbols. And utilizing the company's VST Expression technology, it's easy to create natural sounding orchestral scores with full expression control on the single-note level.
For electronic music producers, a large arsenal of synthesizers and creative effects allows for experimental sound design by using both analog and next-generation granular synthesizers over intuitive beat creation. For vocal recordings, Cubase includes a complete toolset for correction and enhancement. It is just a matter of seconds to adjust the pitch and timing of monophonic audio signals or to harmonize lead vocals for creating choral arrangements.
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- What's New in Cubase 7
- MixConsole excels in terms of usability, look and feel with flexible channel layout, 12 dB boost, dedicated processing power per channel, and comprehensive online and offline automation tools
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- Over four hours of online video tutorials in HD quality
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- Subtitles are available in German, French, Italian, Spanish, Japanese and Chinese
- Steinberg Hub provides tons of helpful information and alongside the enhanced Project Assistant, you now find a list of regularly updated video tutorials and RSS feeds to keep you informed about Cubase updates, support news, or product releases
- Entire user interface available in Portuguese
- Compose
Key Editor- At the heart of MIDI sequencing is the Key Editor, a powerful yet transparent tool which offers functional wealth that opens up virtually limitless possibilities for songwriters and composers
- Entering, cutting, moving and transposing individual notes or whole chords, editing any of the hundreds of MIDI parameters available or reworking even the most subtle nuances of a MIDI performance are just some of the tasks for which the Key Editor has been developed and refined
- The Inspector provides smooth and intuitive access to the most important MIDI tools and functions, including Expression Maps, Note Expression, Quantize, Transpose, Length and many more in one central spot
- Note Expression integration allows for assigning, creating and editing multiple controller values directly on the single note level in the Key Editor
- With the In-place Editing function, users can also process MIDI parts directly in the Project window in context with other tracks
Score Editor- Completely integrated, full notation environment for viewing the music in the form of scores, with full support for just about all symbol, display and editing options that this entails
- Support for lyrics and remarks as well as drum notes, guitar tablature and lead sheets
- Includes hundreds of professional notation symbols - simply select the tools needed to create fully professional score layouts for others including soloists, orchestras and choirs
- Exchanging scores with other notation packages is only a matter of seconds with full Music XML Import / Export support
Drum Editor- Highly intuitive environment for constructing and reworking beats, rhythms and grooves
- Multiple features let you come up with the perfect rhythm for your song or production
List Editor- The List Editor is a powerful MIDI editing tool that gives fast access to every single aspect of a MIDI note and can be a huge timesaver in complex projects
VST Expression 2- Expression Maps have been engineered to offer new levels of speed and intuitiveness when working with large sample libraries by introducing dynamic support for articulations and expressive notation that is automatically interpreted by a VST instrument
- Based on three core technologies - Note Expression, Expression Maps and VST Dynamics
- Create and edit multiple controller values in a single graphical interface, directly on the note they belong to
Chord Track- Facilitates working with chords in a project context and enables transform and harmonize functions throughout the application
- Advanced voicing options are used to reflect any changes made to the Chord Track to both MIDI and audio tracks processed with VariAudio in a harmonically correct way
- Easily work with chords within the Project window
- Cubase detects the harmony structure of your song
- Enter chords directly within the Key Editor
- Paint in chords directly as MIDI notes in the Key Editor
- Integrates with Chorder plug-in, HALion Sonic and HALion Sonic SE
Chord Assistant- Helps generate everything from simple pop to complex jazz chord sequences
- Specify both the first and final chords and the Chord Assistant lists chord suggestions from which you can choose a harmonic chord progression
- Ideal for bridging chords but can also continue progressions
- Record
Next Generation Audio Engine- Delivers a crystal-clear 32-bit floating-point resolution and 192kHz sample rate, with a pristine sound quality
- Includes true surround capability throughout, with each track and channel offering up to six discreet channels, ready for 5.1 surround and powered by Virtual Studio Technology
Convenience- Retrospective Record means that no take ever gets lost because record mode wasn't engaged in time
- VST plug-in can be recorded with the signal, or simply used for monitoring while the untouched, signal is recorded in Cubase
- The intuitive user interface supports even the largest recording rigs, with easy-to-use folders, customizable Track views and custom color schemes for Tracks that differentiate track types at a glance
- The VST Connections window allows the user to not only setup custom I/O setups and customize port names but also switch between different I/O setups on the fly
- Additional functions have been engineered to accelerate recording workflows, including the Arm/Disarm All Audio Tracks function, the Lock Record mode, and the Remaining Record Time display
Control Room- Dispensing with the need for hardware mixing consoles, the Control Room represents a paradigm shift for software in integrating real-world studio setups, and firmly puts the software at the heart of any recording environment
- Custom busses and setups for up to four studio mixes for performers, full talkback and metronome integration, custom monitor setups, and management of audio sources feeding from tape, CD,or DVD
- In conjunction with Steinberg's MR816 CSX/X Advanced Integration DSP Studio FireWire interfaces, the Control Room offers latency-free recording completely integrated into the Cubase mixer and Control Room panels, with no need to use an additional mixing application
- Edit
Sample Editor- Allows almost limitless creative freedom while editing audio
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- The loop functions include state-of-the-art transient and tempo detection, as well as audio quantization functions to perfect the timing, feel and flavor of live-recorded drum tracks
Intelligent Transient Detection- Accurate transient detection function based on a state-of-the-art algorithm
- Finding all drum hits is easy with the intuitive preview feature and two specialized filters
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Advanced Tempo Detection- Features a reliable tempo detection algorithm, which accurately determines the tempo of any rhythmic audio material
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Straightforward Drum Replacement- With the Hitpoint-to-MIDI function, it is very easy to replace, or double live-recorded drum sounds
- When the transients have been detected, a single click creates a MIDI track with a MIDI note for each drum hit
- From here, it's only a matter of choosing which sampler or synthesizer to use
Warp Quantizing- Warp-quantize multiple audio tracks at once using the Quantize panel
- By creating warp markers straight from hit points, both single audio loops as well as the entire arrangement can be non-destructively quantized with a single mouse click, just like MIDI parts
- Because the audio events are warped instead of sliced, they automatically follow any tempo or pitch changes of your project while remaining uncluttered for easy arrangements
Ultra-Fast Take Comping- Build the perfect take - when recording several takes, Cubase instantly creates a Lane Track for each take
- From here, simply swipe across the best parts and Cubase automatically creates a master take that contains all the selected parts
- Comp tool offers click-and-drag features for immediate results
VariAudio 2.0- Offers completely integrated vocal editing and pitch alteration of individual notes in monophonic vocal recordings and can solve intonation and timing problems with only a few mouse clicks
- Editing vocal lines in the Sample Editor is just as seamlessly and quick as if editing MIDI notes in the Key Editor
- Provides complete control over the melody and intonation
- Automatically corrects the intonation of vocal lines by quantizing the pitch and micro-pitch of an entire part
- All detected notes and segments can be converted to MIDI notes, including the micro-pitch envelope which translates to pitch bend MIDI data
- Seamless integration with Note Expression
- No noticeable artifacts preserve sonic fidelity
- Full integration with the Chord Track ensures correct pitch to harmonies at all times
Multi-Track Editing- An intuitive toolset for multi-track audio editing and phase-stable quantization
- Allows the user to quantize audio material just like any MIDI note, offering numerous possibilities to fix timing issues and to change the groove and feel of live-recorded drums and percussion instruments
- To preserve phase relationships between tracks, the individual slices on all tracks are still grouped and moved at once
- Smart multi-track editing with Track Edit Groups that tie together what belongs together
- When recording a guitar it is common to record signals from different amps, microphone types or distances on separate tracks - with Track Edit Groups activated, related tracks are tied together and can be edited at once
- Mix
MixConsole- 32-bit floating-point mixing engine with 128 physical I/O, 8 inserts per Channel, 64 FX sends, 256 groups/busses and unlimited routing between audio channels, busses, groups and FX returns
- Scalable and dedicated full-screen mode
- View Sets and Channel Zones for utmost flexibility
- Control Link groups and Quick Link system for channel parameters
- Customizable track icons and track notepad
- Supports drag-and-drop throughout the mixer
Channel Strip- High- and low-pass filters plus 4-band StudioEQ with spectrum analyzer, noise gate and three compressors
- Enveloper Shaper fully controls attack and release
- Tape and tube saturation
- Brickwall Limiter and Loudness Maximizer modules
- Includes over 300 presets
Workflows- Dynamic inserts and sends provide streamlined overview
- A/B comparison and global bypass of all audio effects
- Plug-in and channel search function
- Full Control Room integration, including talkback and four different cue mixes
- Optimized for mouse-free operation - virtually all channel elements are accessible by blind reader software and through the computer keyboard
Remote Control- Remote Control Editor lets you visually customize the parameter layout of individual effects and instruments on a control surface
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- Just select a hardware knob or button and chose which parameter to control
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Surround Mixing- Fully surround-capable architecture
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Collaborate and Distribute- VST Connect SE lcan connect directly to other Cubase 7 users for remote collaboration and producing
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B.S., Industrial Engineering, Marquette University, 1989. Current Role
Environmental Engineer, Land Management Team, with project coordination responsibilities for the Eastern Interconnection States' Planning Council Clean Energy Zones study. Capabilities
Project management, training, technical review, stakeholder outreach, construction oversight and plan preparation, proposal preparation. Career Highlights
- Project manager/assistant: Landfill capping; regulatory compliance and permitting; review and synthesis of technical and public comments on reports.
- Engineer/designer: Remedial actions including landfill capping and gas extraction, building demolition, drum and tank removal, wetland creation, soil vapor extraction, soil and groundwater removal and treatment.
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On the first Thursday of each month At Hangar 9, on the first Thursday of each month, a resurrection occurs.
AD/CB, or Another Dead Cover Band, has been playing together for about three years, performing Grateful Dead songs in various locations across Carbondale. They now have a monthly gig at Hangar 9 and played the second show of their residence Thursday.
"We had tossed around the idea for quite a while of starting a Grateful Dead cover band," guitarist Jesse Payne said. "It's been neat learning all the different material they have, it's a different style than even I was used to playing."
The band members said when they first began AD/CB, they jammed a few Grateful Dead songs and quickly realized how well the music blended with the personalities of each member.
"There are no other Dead cover bands in the area, so we thought, 'let's bring some Dead to everybody,'"
keyboardist Steven Kaufman said. As the band begins its set, members reveal their talents through the simplicity of a four- piece band, yet have a sound as moving as an orchestra. Through the backing vocals of Payne and bassist Nate Blew, the audience hears the rhythmic vocal harmony, accessed easily behind the beating keys and Kaufman's voice and blended into the sway through member Steve Byrd's drumming. The music is brought to life through AD/CB's enthusiasm and love for the music they perform.
"All the songs are classic songs, and it's cool to keep it alive since everybody's fading away," Byrd said.
Part of the band's desire to bring the Grateful Dead's music back to the public is to invigorate awareness, Blew said.
"I had somebody come up to me one time and say, 'I had not realized that was one of their songs, and I looked it up on my phone and it was one of their chart songs.' And it was one of the only ones that they had on the chart," he said.
Memories of the Grateful Dead may not be as widespread as they once were, however the spirit is alive and well today. It is not only held together through AD/ CB, but through many students as well.
Jeremy Meyer, a senior from Homewood studying advertising, and Daniel Noe, a junior from Cary studying journalism, are two students who help keep that memory alive.
"I think that parts of our generation are just so infatuated with the Dead, and because Jerry died when we were like three, you can throw up any band that can somewhat sound like them and we'll pay for a cover," Noe said.
AD/CB 's next Hangar 9 performance is March 6.
"AD/CB is great, it's great to have someone around who plays Dead music because Dead music is wonderful," Meyer said. "They get down with the get down."
Jake Saunders can be reached at firstname.lastname@example.com, on Twitter @saundersfj