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The first group includes fans whose emotions stir when they think of Notre Dame — deep, old emotions, coming from years ago. Back then, if they they were asked who they disliked the most, Auburn or Notre Dame, they might need time for long and serious thought.
The folks in the second group? They aren't old enough to have a clear idea what that first group is talking about. This includes the Alabama players, even though they're bombarded with Tide football history lessons literally from their first team meeting when they're taught the words to "Yea, Alabama."
"In my life, we haven't been rivals, really," Tide All-America center Barrett Jones said. "But obviously older people have come up to me and told me about the old days when we used to not like Notre Dame."
Maybe it's like trying to teach somebody what life was like without cell phones, Internet, cable sports news networks and bunches of college football games on television every fall weekend. It's hard to understand if you didn't live it.
By the way, that's what life was like when Alabama and Notre Dame played each other for the first time Dec. 31, 1973. Five other meetings followed in 1974-87, but the first was the only one in which the winner took the national title.
The much-anticipated meeting paired great vs. great, tradition vs. tradition, and, not least of all, North vs. South. And Alabama lost. Notre Dame upset the seven-point favorite Crimson Tide 24-23 in the last Sugar Bowl played at Tulane Stadium.
According to Sugar Bowl records, that game drew a Nielsen TV rating of 25.3, and since then, no college football game has matched that. The closest is the 1987 Fiesta Bowl in which Penn State beat Miami 14-10, drawing a 24.9. The highest rated game in the BCS era, which started in 1998, is Texas' 41-38 win over Southern California for the 2005 national title. That one got a 21.7.
However, Alabama's dislike for Notre Dame began in earnest seven years before the teams' first meeting. In 1966, the two-time defending national champion Crimson Tide went unbeaten and untied at 11-0-0, but finished third in the final polls. Notre Dame won the national title under Ara Parseghian despite having a 10-10 tie against Michigan State on its record. The Irish had the ball at the end against the Spartans but ran out the clock instead of going for the win, going against the famous philosophy attributed to Alabama's Bear Bryant, which he summarized by allegedly saying, "A tie is like kissing your sister."
The differences between the two schools ran deep back then, according to Athens native Keith Dunnavant, who in "The Missing Ring" wrote about the 1966 season, set against the simmering backdrop of the civil rights movement and the discord between different cultures.
"[T]he two institutions occupied starkly different positions in American society in 1966, symbolizing the cavernous divide between North and South, between integration and segregation, between the scorn of the dominant media culture and the embrace of the dominant media culture," Dunnavant wrote.
The teams still knew little about each other in 1973, as regionalism dominated the sport. The NCAA placed strict limits on television appearances, which at the time meant only two nationally televised games a year and one regionally, until the bowl games. Alabama played LSU and Auburn on national TV and Tennessee in a regional broadcast. Games against California, Georgia, Florida and Miami remained totally off the air, except for radio.
The only place one could get weekly highlights was a Sunday afternoon show by ABC's Bill Fleming. During a 30-minute broadcast, he would review five or six of the big Saturday games.
Of the 22 players Alabama started in the Sugar Bowl on offense and defense, 16 came from Alabama high schools, three from Georgia, two from Florida and one from Tennessee. This year, Alabama's depth chart shows four offensive starters from in-state and four on defense.
For Notre Dame, starters came almost exclusively from Northern states, including six from Ohio, three from Pennsylvania and two each from Michigan, Illinois, Wisconsin and New York. As for Southerners, the closest the Irish came was one starter from Virginia, one from Oklahoma and one from Missouri. Only one came from Notre Dame's home state, Indiana.
There was no BCS then, either, and bowls invited teams before the regular season even ended. The Sugar Bowl finalized the Alabama-Notre Dame matchup with two games left in the schedule. In addition, the coaches poll wrapped up voting before the bowls and already had voted the Crimson Tide as its national champion. The AP waited for the bowls and had Alabama No. 1 and Notre Dame No. 3.
Legendary Alabama coach Bear Bryant won 323 games. He lost 85, however, and this might stand as the most significant. He revealed a bit about the unusual nature of this particular game in "Bear," his 1974 biography:
"I got a letter from Ara Parseghian shortly afterward, the only one I ever received from a coach who beat me. He said how much his group had enjoyed playing us, how wrong the impressions were beforehand. (They pictured us as a bunch of rednecks, and we had some thoughts about them, too.) He said how much everybody got out of the game, and how great it was for college football that we now had a series going. It was very gracious, Ara's letter. One I'd love to have written him."
Now, as Alabama prepares to update its history with Notre Dame, five Crimson Tide fans try to explain why that game from 39 years ago still stick with them today. Also, after that, one Alabama person talks about what he thought of that game in 1973 when he had no Crimson Tide ties.
Blair Terry, 52, Moulton
Born and bred in Lawrence County, Terry picked up his love of Alabama football from his father, Billy Dwight "Cup" Terry, and his uncles, Charles B. Terry and Sherman Terry Jr. They took him to Tide games, and he still makes regular trips to Tuscaloosa and some road games, including BCS National Championship Game wins over Texas and LSU. He will sit in Sun Life Stadium on Jan. 7, 2013, as Alabama tries to beat Notre Dame for a third national title in four years.
Blair Terry has three boys who he said love Alabama as much as he does, but when it comes to Notre Dame, that's just a generational divide that hasn't been crossed.
"I don't think they understand what Notre Dame means to most Alabama fans my age and older," said Terry, a crew leader in the chemical line at International Paper in Courtland. "And, unfortunately, they probably won't get it ... unless the Tide loses to the Irish."
Terry said that around 1970 or 1971, when he was 10 or 11, he watched Army and Notre Dame on television and pulled for the Irish.
"My dad warned me, 'Son, someday you'll have to chose between Alabama and those dang Yankees,' " he said. "I didn't think anything about it and was too young to understand what had happened in 1966."
Terry recalled watching the 1973 Sugar Bowl on television. It marked only the sixth bowl appearance by Notre Dame, which refused to participate in postseason games during 1925-68, and Terry remembers incredible hype for the first Tide-Irish meeting.
Terry remembers Al Hunter's 93-yard kickoff return in the second quarter. He also remembers the last minutes. Down 24-23 with three minutes left, Alabama faced fourth-and-20 at its own 30. Greg Gantt's punt rolled to the Notre Dame 1.
He was fouled on the play however, but rather than take a 15-yard penalty and what would've been fourth-and-five under the rules of the day, Bryant let the Irish have the ball.
On third-and-eight at the 3-yard line, Notre Dame quarterback Tom Clements took advantage of a coverage mistake by the Tide and hit backup tight end Robin Weber for a 35-yard gain near the sideline. In Bryant's book, he said he was close enough to the play he could've knocked the ball away himself.
"As far as the game itself, it definitely lived up to its hype," Terry said. "There were a lot of huge plays and missed opportunities for Alabama that night. ... I went to bed crying that night. Woke up the next morning and it really felt as if the college football world had ended for everyone wearing crimson. Most of the Auburn fans I knew at the time quickly became Irish fans."
As for now, Terry said, "I've never disliked the Irish like my dad did or other Bama fans I know have in the past or do now, but I sure would like to see Alabama beat them come Jan. 7th, 2013."
Anthony Catalano, 49, Clay
Catalano is a retired United States Marine who grew up in the West End part of Birmingham. He and his family watched the Sugar Bowl on his uncle's TV.
Catalano, who was 10 at the time, had an interesting reaction after the game: He kicked in his uncle's television with his cowboys boots.
"I've been a Bama fan for over 40 years," he said. "It was kind of bred into me, if you know what I mean. I used to listen to Bama games on the radio with my parents and the name I most remember hearing is Wayne Wheeler."
Wheeler, who was from Orlando, led the 1973 team in receiving.
"I reacted the way I did because of the heartbreaking way they lost," he said. "I just thought I'd feel better if I broke the TV while kicking it with my cowboy boots on because then I wouldn't have to see it happen again.
"By the way, I got those boots for Christmas, and at the time I thought I was putting them to good use. My parents, not so much. I was never allowed to watch another game at my uncle's house again."
He added jokingly, "Not exactly sure why."
He said he remembers that game well and not just because of the busted TV.
"I think people remember it because of the two legendary programs that played an incredible game," he said. "It's just something that you never forget."
He has three sons. His oldest is a lance corporal in the U.S. Marines and plans to become an air traffic controller.
His other two boys are 8 and 13. As a stay-at-home dad, Catalano home-schooled his oldest son from seventh through 10th grade and the other two since kindergarten.
All three have managed not to kick in a television set.
Dave Crossley, 62, Magnolia, Texas
Crossley attended the Sugar Bowl with his fiance. He had graduated from Alabama in May 1973 with a degree in engineering and had taken a job with Texaco in Houma, La., which is about 50 miles from New Orleans.
He got tickets through his father, who had gotten them from a friend who was a judge, William C. Bibb, who lived in Crossley's hometown of Anniston. Crossley and his fiance — who were to be married Jan. 5, 1974 — attended the game and sat next to Bibb and his wife.
"The game was memorable for so many reasons, but certainly one memory is the miserable weather in the old open Tulane stadium," Crossley said. "At some point during the game, I remember looking into the sky and seeing very ominous rain clouds. I had been in South Louisiana long enough to know that wasn't a good sign.
"And sure enough, much of the game was wet and cold. I believe the weather may have been a factor in several of the important events in the game including possibly the missed extra point by Bama and several turnovers in the second half."
Crossley and his group sat in the end zone opposite where Alabama scored its final points of the game. With 9:33 to play, Tide halfback Mike Stock tossed a 25-yard throwback to quarterback Richard Todd, who sprinted down the sideline for a touchdown. Bill Davis missed the extra point, but Alabama led 23-21.
Then Notre Dame drove toward Crossley's end zone. The Irish ran 11 plays, gained 79 yards and took the lead for good when Bob Thomas kicked a 19-yard field goal.
The Greg Gantt punt remains a memorable moment for Crossley, who attended classes with him at Alabama.
"I had seen how devastated he was after the two famous blocked punts against Auburn," Crossley said, referring to the 1972 loss to the Tigers. "I had attended the Cotton Bowl the previous year and had seen Greg kick what I believe is still the longest field goal in Cotton Bowl history. In our little Anniston group in the stands, we were all pulling for Greg, knowing the history. He didn't disappoint."
At third-and-eight, Crossley and his group felt the same as Bryant said in his biography — Alabama would hold, get the ball and drive for the winning points.
"To this day, I cannot believe the pass play that was called with the Irish luck getting the first down, which essentially was the end of the game," Crossley said. "The clock just ran out as Bear said afterward."
Now retired from Texaco with a daughter who attends Texas A&M, Crossley still follows the Crimson Tide closely and has attended plenty of Alabama games over the years. Even during a four-year work assignment in London, he managed to catch Tide games through television, although sometimes in the middle of the night in England.
Wanda King, 65, Hueytown
King is a retired teacher who graduated from Alabama in 1968. She attended the game with her husband and two other Alabama graduates, even though she was five months pregnant with her second child.
"I had forgotten how painful that game was to me," she said. "I guess I have tried to forget. I have now come to believe that most of my generation were 'Bear Bryant children.'
"Today's generation will become 'Nick Saban children.' We were accustomed to winning and we really felt that Coach Bryant could walk on water. None of us believed that we could lose that game. I think that we always felt that Notre Dame was a paper tiger — kept on top by the media. Most Alabama fans were shocked by the loss. It was a long ride home the next day. It still hurts that Coach Bryant never beat them."
The 1966 poll controversy still remains in her mind as well, especially since she was a student at Alabama at the time.
"We have always felt that the team was one of our best," she said. "In those days the SEC was not given the respect that we deserved. The Southern bias still existed. ... We always felt that the national media did not want to give us a championship three years in a row. This made Alabamians hate the national media and Notre Dame even more. I always hated Notre Dame and that Sugar Bowl made me hate them even more."
Notre Dame hasn't won a national title since 1988 and hasn't placed in the top eight of a final poll since finishing second in 1993. The lack of success has kept the Irish out of King's mind ... until now.
"I have not thought about Notre Dame for a long time because they have been so bad," she said. "I guess that I can get back to hating them again. Here's hoping that the luck of the Irish will run out."
Barbara Moran, 49, Chicago
Even growing up in the Chicago area, Moran calls herself a lifelong Alabama fan. Her father was a Gadsden native.
She watched the Sugar Bowl with her parents and saw Thomas kick that "awful" field goal to beat the Crimson Tide. Then Thomas, now a justice on the Illinois Supreme Court, signed with her favorite NFL team, the Chicago Bears.
"(It was) adding insult to injury as an Alabama and Bears fan," she said.
To top it off, her son, Chris Moran, became a Notre Dame fan as a kindergartner.
"So as a good mother, I tried to explain that it was difficult for me to appreciate his love of Notre Dame, but I respected his opinion," she said. "He remains a Notre Dame fan to this day — as I have also come to respect their team and university.
"And, even though he was a Notre Dame fan, he has always watched Alabama football with me and the rest of our family on Saturday afternoons."
For Moran, the best part of her story came when her son chose a university to attend. Chris is a sophomore at Alabama and works in the Crimson Tide's athletic communications department, which works with reporters covering the school's sports teams. That includes working in the press box for football games and courtside for basketball.
"Unfortunately, my father passed away before he could see his grandson attend the University of Alabama, but if my father were here I know he would be very proud of his grandson," she said.
Nick Saban, 61, Tuscaloosa
In 1973, Alabama's current head coach found himself as a graduate assistant at Kent State, where he had lettered as a varsity defensive back in 1970-72.
Kent State had completed a 9-2 season and didn't attend a bowl game. Even so, in the AP poll that came out after the regular season, Kent State was one of six teams to receive votes for the rankings but not actually make them.
Although Saban said he admires Parseghian and Bryant, he said he really doesn't remember that Sugar Bowl.
"That was how many years ago? 40? 39? I've been married for 41," he said recently. "I had an anniversary, Dec. 18, and I remember that. That was a real important thing to remember.
"I can't remember, to be honest. I was in my first year of being a graduate assistant coach and I know it was a big game. I know the historical significance of the game. But for me to say 39 years ago, I remember this game, I don't. I just don't. It would be like saying, 'Do you remember the USC-UCLA game when Gary Beban was the quarterback in 1968?' No, I don't. There was no significance (to me) to the game. I was in West Virginia. I was hitch-hiking to practice. That was the only way we could get around. I had other things that were more important at the time."


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Oral History Program William Rice Kimball Interviewed by John Sillito 5 March 2001 Oral History Program Weber State University Stewart Library Ogden, Utah William Rice Kimball Interviewed by John Sillito 5 March 2001 Copyright © 2011 by Weber State University, Stewart Library Mission Statement The Oral History Program of the Stewart Library was created to preserve the institutional history of Weber State University and the Davis, Ogden and Weber County communities. By conducting carefully researched, recorded, and transcribed interviews, the Oral History Program creates archival oral histories intended for the widest possible use. Interviews are conducted with the goal of eliciting from each participant a full and accurate account of events. The interviews are transcribed, edited for accuracy and clarity, and reviewed by the interviewees (as available), who are encouraged to augment or correct their spoken words. The reviewed and corrected transcripts are indexed, printed, and bound with photographs and illustrative materials as available. Archival copies are placed in Special Collections. The Stewart Library also houses the original recording so researchers can gain a sense of the interviewee's voice and intonations. Project Description The Utah Construction Company/Utah International Inc. Oral History Project was created to capture the memories of individuals associated with the company. Several of the interviewees are family and relatives, others are personalities involved with Utah Construction Company/Utah International Inc. and some of the company's prominent figures. ____________________________________ Oral history is a method of collecting historical information through recorded interviews between a narrator with firsthand knowledge of historically significant events and a well-informed interviewer, with the goal of preserving substantive additions to the historical record. 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It is recommended that this oral history be cited as follows: William Rice Kimball, an oral history by John Sillito, 5 March 2001, WSU Stewart Library Oral History Program, Special Collections, Stewart Library, Weber State University, Ogden, UT. iii William Rice Kimball circa 1970 1 Abstract: The following is an oral history interview with William Rice Kimball (born 1919). It was conducted in his office in San Francisco, California, by John Sillito of Weber State University on March 5, 2001. Mr. Kimball was the grandson of E.O. Wattis, one of the founders of the Utah Construction. In the interview, Mr. Kimball discusses the history of Utah Construction/Utah International and shares his memories of the development of the company. JS: This is an interview with William R. Kimball in his office in San Francisco, California. The date is March 5, 2001. Let me give a little bit of background. As you are probably aware, we received the papers of Utah Construction/Utah International at Weber State University. It"s a great collection that we are really pleased to have. As part of that collection, we are doing a series of oral interviews focusing specifically on Utah International. Why don"t we begin with a couple of general questions? What are the circumstances that brought you to the board of Utah Construction? WK: Let me back up. My grandfather, Edmund Orson Wattis, was referred to as E.O. and he and his brother were the founders of Utah Construction in 1900. There were three brothers, but one brother was in insurance. They had an appraising company before 1900 and they were doing pretty well, but they bid on a thing in Idaho with an English company that came in on it with them because they couldn"t handle it alone. It went belly-up and the British declared bankruptcy. My uncle and grandfather—by this time, they owned about a third of the public real 2 estate all around Ogden and on Washington Boulevard. Well, my uncle and grandfather were not going to go into bankruptcy, so they sold all of that and became clean booked. The people that noticed this were the money people: Eccles, Browning, and Dee. They got together with them and said, "Why don"t we start a construction company and we"ll be on the board and supply the money for it?" We had…I think we had thirty percent at that time; that"s a guess, but we were running it. That went on and my cousin Ed Littlefield—he"s five years older than I am and he was like a big brother. We both said we weren"t going to go to work for Utah because we were relatives. In the meantime, Ed was working at a big grocery company down in Los Angeles and they needed a treasurer. Someone in my office—Mr. Mitchell—was on the board and Marriner Eccles was chairman. We were playing golf in Los Angeles and my uncle brought Ed Littlefield to the game. He"s a great golfer. Anyways, a long story short, Mr. Eccles asked him to be on the board, and it was the best thing. Ed went on as treasurer and from then on his hand was in it. JS: Do you recall approximately when that was? The early "50s, maybe? WK: I guess so. I"m not good on dates on those. I had my own business, so I wasn"t paying much attention to Utah. I guess it was when Mr. Dee died that Eccles called me and said, "We would like to have you on the board." I was very pleased and flattered. It was interesting. I kept my mouth shut the first meeting. Or, I tried to, but I ended up in the discussion. It was something I felt I could help on. They had a profit sharing plan. This is somewhat contradictable, you could say. They had 3 people that would get so much a year so long as they were in employment and then when they left they didn"t get anything. Some of the people on the board wanted a raise; they wanted to take the money back out again. I said, "Not in your life. The rest of the employees know it"s there. Now why should you take it away just because…" I really spoke right up. Later, I went to Marriner"s house for dinner and he took me aside and said, "You know, I was sure proud of you because you spoke up." I"d known him for many years. He wrote a wonderful letter for me to get into Harvard Business School, and I used to live very close to them. He"s a wonderful person. JS: This is Marriner Eccles? WK: Yes. JS: How often did the board meet? WK: In the beginning—the beginning for me—we had two-day meetings and they were every quarter in Salt Lake. We weren"t down here yet. Sometimes, they would be in Ogden, but mostly in Salt Lake, and they just went on and on. Marriner was a wonderful guy, but he just liked to talk, talk, talk. So we had two and finally cut the meetings down to one and a half days. Then, a long time ago, to just one. JS: Did board members have particular areas of responsibility or did they utilize board members" expertise in particular ways? WK: Oh yes, sure. Every board does. Most of the input from Marriner and others was financial. They didn"t know much about bidding or whether we should build a dam or a tunnel—that was all management. And the president was a member of the 4 board. In the meantime, Ed Littlefield was working on it. I can"t quite remember when he became CEO, but that was a wonderful time. We were all very proud of him. JS: He strikes me as the guiding spirit of the company. WK: Oh yes. JS: How active was the board in the day-to-day operations of the company? WK: We had meetings four times a year and we all had homework to do. A lot of homework. We would meet quite often, as most boards do. They'd bring in a vice president to present something and we"d have a session with them and sometimes we would make our own session after that. We didn"t have much to do with selecting employees or any of that. We were just a posse and making sure there was enough money at each point. One of the figures wrangles me…let me back up. In construction, you make a bid and you make money or you don"t make money, but then you have a valley, you know, you hope you can keep getting through. So years and years ago, long before I was on the board, they bought a ranch in Nevada. You probably heard about that. It was a leavening of income because it was a very successful ranch. It became very sacred to Pat Wattis, who was a son of my granddaddy—and he was okay, but he wasn"t dynamite like my grandfather. Well, we had this ranch and in the meantime, during the war, we had to do a dirt-moving job. We did very well at it; we were good at making tunnels and railroads and things like that, so we decided maybe we should put more effort into mining. We didn"t have any money for it, so we decided to sell the ranch and use that 5 money to get into mining, which was a very critical step it turns out, but some of the family just about went up in smoke. JS: This is the Wattis family? WK: Do you know Ezeke Dumke by chance? JS: I don"t. WK: He"s a doctor who"s married to one of the Wattis girls. He didn"t know anything about it—he knew about surgery, he didn"t know anything about mining—but he was just livid. Then Pat, my granddaddy"s son…it almost broke his heart. In his office, he had this huge map of the ranch. Anyways, we sold it and put that money into mining, and that"s when it really took off. We did a great job. It was just a wonderful thing to do. Once in awhile we"d bomb, but mostly they were better than we thought they were. And that"s what really got us going. JS: It seems like the company saw the opportunity to move a different direction. Is that an accurate perception of the company: the ability to see down the road pretty well? WK: Well it had better be. I don"t think there"s anything unusual about it; Marriner Eccles was very strong, and he kept it. There"s a lot of family, people like Dr. Dumke, who didn"t have anything to do with it and just caused a lot of trouble, as it turned out. JS: That raises an interesting question. You have an interrelationship of several families and an intermarriage within those several families. Was that a complication? Beyond just selling the ranch, there was obviously a complication there. 6 WK: I suppose so, but I didn"t notice it much. But see, I"ve been down here ever since I was put on the board. JS: So you"ve been here quite awhile? WK: Yes, since right after the war. No, I think there were hurt feelings and things like that. JS: The reason I ask is that there were a number of people on the board who were family members or were related to the families, but there were also a number of people who weren"t. Was it hard for people on the board that were not related to try to figure out what was going on? WK: No, they were picked very carefully. One of them was a fellow who scampered. He was a classmate of Ed"s and he was in charge of real estate. He started a big shopping center down here. Have you ever been to Stanford? JS: I have. WK: Mrs. Stanford said, "You will never sell an inch of land and lease it," and we never have. We had land development and we did shopping centers. We did great big shopping centers. We teamed up with Standard Oil down in Los Angeles—we built it and they furnished the land, that kind of thing. So Ed brought this guy in to run it all. He was vice president in charge of land development and on the board. He wasn"t related even though he was a very close friend. In fact, he was in the Navy in Ogden and he stayed in my grandmother"s house during the war. So that was one, and we had a couple of guys that we"d just trained, most of them had mining education. They were on the board, but the rest of the board was mostly family. I think every once in a while the nonfamily may have felt 7 a pinch here and there, but they were very well paid and had options and stock. They didn"t have to worry about anything. JS: My perception of it is that even though the company goes heavily into mining, it was still active in construction. WK: That"s an interesting part because we had a real dilemma getting out of construction. You have bids from the last four or five years and you"ve got a lot of people involved. I remember having lunch a couple of times with Ed Littlefield, and asking, "How can we turn all this money into mining?" We finally sold it, the land part, to…I can"t think of their name now, it"s the big construction company in Los Angeles. They took over our things and became Smith Utah—it wasn"t Smith—but I can"t remember. So that was a big thing off our back, because we had a lot of money in land and it doesn"t move very fast. In the meantime, we were turning up wonderful mining. We were one of the largest copper companies in the world. We had iron ore. We had coking coal in Australia. We had over four big mines in Australia around the perimeter—you can"t go in the middle there"s nothing there. That was very successful. JS: The decision to change the name from Utah Construction to Utah International and to move the headquarters here to San Francisco, were those two related? WK: It was Utah Construction and then it was Utah Construction and Mining. Then we went to Utah International, which we were—we were all over the place. JS: Yes, it really was reflective of what you were doing. Do you think the decision to come to San Francisco made the company appear to be much more substantial? By moving, it became an international company, not a Utah company? 8 WK: That was very important. I think the mistake we made was we didn"t do it soon enough. It was a tremendously helpful thing. And it just turned around in the larger city. A lot of our activities were in Australia and so we were a little closer to that. We had a big coal mine down in Arizona in the Four Corners area. We had a big copper mine up in British Columbia, and that was kind of interesting. We had in those days…well, we"re not mining any more, but when we were, we would try to find what you call a prospector. We had a prospector there and he was on the scent of copper, but he hadn"t found it yet. So he sat down—I guess he had a jeep instead of a mule—but when he sat down for lunch, he leaned against a tree that had fallen over, reached down, and picked up some copper. It was right near a stream so he went up that stream and found what appeared to be a huge copper deposit. That was right on the edge of the water on the Pacific Ocean. We called him Lucky Mac. We mined it out completely and he probably got three or four million dollars. He was rather uncouth about everything. He had money, but the more we gave him, the more he wanted. That was one that was very successful. I forgot how we found the gold mine down in the Indian area. That was tough to work because you don"t have contracts, you have treaties and they meet twice a year. JS: The tribal government? WK: Yes, and we"d never get started because we"d make a draft and then we"d wait six more months. But we also had—one thing that I was always proud of, I"m not trying to boast—but we"d do conservation every time we did pit mining. You go straight down and then you take the core out of there and you take the dirt from 9 here and put it back and in the process—when you go down higher than this building—you see former bonfires, maybe two hundred years old. We would find these wonderful chards and things like that. So the office there had several hauls and we put glass cases in there and displayed them. We built museums in Arizona and New Mexico. We were very good about that: we not only put the dirt back in, but we seeded it and it was theoretically pretty good; when you"d fly over, you"d see all the green strips. That is still one of my favorite things that we did. It was wonderful. JS: You mentioned the treaties with the tribes. You were also operating in the international sphere. Were there people on the board whose expertise was international relations and foreign policies? Obviously Marriner Eccles had some experience. WK: I was just going to say he would have it. We didn"t have too much of that, we didn"t get involved very much with the governments we were dealing with. In South America, we had some problems, not serious problems, just delays. Australia was and is wonderful. JS: Let"s talk a little about the merger with General Electric. From your perspective and your recollection, how and why did that merger come about? WK: Well, Ed was on the GE board and he got very friendly with the CEO—a wonderful guy, just super. I guess it…I"m not sure quite how it came up. I suppose Ed and Reg Jones, that was his name, were just chatting sometime. Reg Jones had a tremendous interest in the oil bill and I think it probably started from there. We weren"t broke, but the mines were so darn expensive that you 10 wouldn"t get anything out of it for three or four years. So I think Ed and Reg were in favor of it and everybody went with it. The one thing Jones did it for—his main thing—was because inflation was so high then, up in the high teens, and Reg said anything in the ground is going to stay. He said that was the main reason he bought. Also, we had a small oil company in Denver and GE had a small oil company, too. They had a lot of land development, so it was a very natural fit that way. Oh, one thing I forgot to tell you is GE put three or four of their officers on our board and I don"t think we dropped anybody. We might have just because of age. I don"t remember exactly. So we always had three or four members of GE, including Jones, and it was fun for us to get to know those guys and how they think and work and everything. It was going along very nicely until the present guy got there and he"s done a marvelous job, of course, everybody knows that. But we hit down in South America—Chile—and found what turned out to be the second largest copper mine in the world. To start with it, we asked GE for about 350 billion dollars and he went right through the roof. He said, "My god, I can build an airplane for that, oh to hell with this mining!" Without telling us, he talked to Chevron about buying us because we had the little oil thing and he was determined to sell. He finally sold it to BHP in Australia. They were the largest company down there and they were in mining and oil in a big way. They have some construction, too, so that went pretty well. They wanted to get more in the way with Europe and places like that where they were very insular. What happened was the GE guys on the board left 11 and then the BHP men came in. The first couple of years were really fun because we"d go down and when we were there, we went around in private planes. It took us two trips to go all the way around. JS: This is in Australia? WK: Yes. We had four of the biggest mines down there already and that was one reason we went to BHP. We all got along very well. They wanted to learn about being an international company. We had, at that time, Bill Hewett on the board; we had the president of Ford Motor Company, a Stanford Business School dean, and somebody else. You just can"t buy those guys, you know. Well, we were with BHP for a couple of years and they started rotating those guys off at seventy-two. I called the chairman and said, "You don"t know what you"re doing; you can"t hire people like those guys." He said, "Well, I know I can"t accept my people." I said, "I thought you joined here so we could reach out and learn about the rest of the world." Oh no, no. And so that didn"t work very well. They"ve still got it, but we"ve sort of dropped out of the whole picture. JS: Too often people tend to think that Utah Construction must only be Utah Construction, and the thinking in this company all through the last hundred years has always been "not necessarily." Are there other things about your service on the board that come to mind that might be valuable to us? WK: I was the only entrepreneur; I would take a little different view on some of these things and I"d jump in on some of that. I wasn"t a big bear, unlike some of those guys, and the vice presidents felt more comfortable with me than they would with the Ford Motor president, or something like that. 12 JS: So you could kind of negotiate in between. WK: I didn"t realize till it was all over that I really did a pretty good job of that. With some of the vice presidents, we send Christmas cards and everything. We"ve all been very friendly. We had a vice president come in and put in a half hour program. When he finished, Bill—Bill Hewett I"d known for years, of course he"s gone now—well, he looked up and said, "That"s the most goddamn Mickey Mouse thing I"ve ever heard of," and the guy just crumpled. Bill didn"t need to be that tough. I was really shocked that he would do that. But that was one of the reasons they bought the company was because of him. When those things happened, I could go around and hold his hand. I have my own business and it made a big difference to some of those people. JS: Any other thoughts or recollections that you think would be valuable? WK: I can tell you very specifically that going into mining put us on a whole new terrain. And then going with GE…our stock would never have gone like GE"s has. Unfortunately, when GE bought out we didn"t get the stock back, they just kept it and that"s been a stupid thing. They were all able to make good donations, and a lot of my own stuff has done pretty well, but GE…it"s just been wonderful. Like starting the Arts Center in Park City about twenty-five years ago. It"s been a joy to me. I hated to have it disappear. JS: But it"s led to other good things hasn"t it? WK: Oh yes, I should say so. I think it"s been well respected too, at least in Utah and San Francisco. JS: It"s quite fascinating to see a company starts in Ogden and become worldwide. 13 WK: One more thing…Grandmother and Grandfather had eight kids. My mother was one. and the last one was Pat. She had her older brother, the first child, and he loved the construction. He was about twenty-five years older than Pat. Then the other son was killed—hit a cow going to North Ogden. So Grandmother made it very clear to E.O.—she called him Grandfather—that Pat wasn"t going out in the boonies like that all the time and so he was coddled. He was a vice president when he moved down here. Phil thought it was just marvelous. They finally decided they had to fire him and they did. I didn"t have much to do with it, but they told him that if he learned insurance they"d turn over insurance to him. Well, that was a nice chunk of the business. Pat said, "We don"t know anything about it." She said, "Oh yes, we do, we"re going to go learn it tomorrow." And they went and started a company here. Everything was fine and they kept his sense of something, except for the damn ranch. JS: The sense I have is that there are some really far-sighted and insightful people in this company all the way along. WK: I would say that the pair of Littlefield and Marriner was excellent. Marriner has been criticized by a lot of people because he kind of shoots his mouth off, but he"s so bright. He liked giving speeches when they had two-day meetings it was driving everybody crazy. George Eccles couldn"t hold a candle to him in construction. He made it in banking. Pat was fired, so it really boiled down to Ed and we had quite a few mining engineers on the board. JS: Well I know you are on a busy schedule so I think I will stop this right here. Thank you.
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I went to this open house last Saturday and boy was it packed. At least 20 people were in the house at one time. Overall the house showed really well and was in excellent condition. All the rooms were upgraded however were very small. The standalone structure in the back of the house is a storage house, not dry walled out. After close inspection, you can see some minor surface cracks in the crown modeling. With a little touch up I think it will be fine. The house sits on a street with very well maintained homes however it sits behind a school and 2 blocks full of ugly apartments. I did a quick search on crimereports.com and found out the neighbor 3 doors down had been recently robbed and the house across the street as well. Do a search yourself if you don't believe me. This was a serious concern. I wouldn't be surprised if this home went above asking price because its definitely a unique house, well built and designed, but the surrounding areas are questionable.
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karbonator 1 10:53pm Thu 12 Apr 2012 Share Quote Permalink Like Dislike Looks good, but realize the schools there are not great. You need to go further south toward Los Gatos/Cambrian for that (or Saratoga/Cupertino if you can afford it). But if you don't care about that it'll save you about $100K in this price range :)
thomas.wong1986 2 12:39am Fri 13 Apr 2012 Share Quote Permalink Like Dislike Do a search yourself if you don't believe me. This was a serious concern.
Serious.. since Indians seem to buy ALOT in gold as BOTH jewelry accessories and investments, it makes sense they would be prime targets in Cupertino... and that is extactly what happened a few years ago.
OK! your DVD, TV, Laptop got pinched.. get another...your not much of at target compared to them getting $30K...50K or more in gold jewelry.
What if you have ALL of your gold jewelry disappear due a burglary which also represents most of your investment and savings... and if you have that much, forced armed entry while your at home is really possible.
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Raindrops 3 6:48am Fri 13 Apr 2012 Share Quote Permalink Like Dislike I saw the house, too.
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Patrick 4 8:11am Fri 13 Apr 2012 Share Quote Permalink Like Dislike Protected @Raindrops: can you give us any more details about the house?
dougr703 5 3:48pm Wed 2 May 2012 Share Quote Permalink Like Dislike This house must have sold for all cash to be done in 2 weeks. From redfin, this house sold for 50k over asking price of 769k to 825k. The buyers really loved this house.
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CrazyMan 6 10:19am Thu 3 May 2012 Share Quote Permalink Like Dislike $500 a sq/ft
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investor90 8 9:02pm Mon 7 May 2012 Share Quote Permalink Like Dislike Kewl---I was also at an Open House on Saturday. This was a 1300 sq ft two bed one bath for residence number one and a one bed one bath - new for residence number two - on 4 acres of horse property. Both houses on a raised foundation. 200 AMP electric/ 220 VAC It has its own water well and piped in natural gas- no propane---1/4 mile from hwy 99. Guess the asking price? $139,000 in US Dollars. MLS 12028267
And they say that house prices never go down? This baby was three times that 5 years ago. Oh yeah " BUYER must have proof of funds for the down payment of $ 500".. It's a Homepath property so investors must wait one more week if its not sold. Oh yeah---Here comes 1996 prices...and lets go LOWER! But First, the one percent ers have to allow American jobs for American citizens.
investor90 9 9:09pm Mon 7 May 2012 Share Quote Permalink Like Dislike Lets see about 2200 sq feet for $139,000. Do you charge extra for the 4 acres and mineral rights or is that free? I guess its about $ 63/ sq foot thats a little less than the $500/ sq ft. About 12.5% of it...1/8th. AND THIS WAS A FORECLOSURE---the seller probably ran out of their last extension of unemployment. A minimum wage job for one earner could qualify for this one. The PMI might be a hassle, but the guv-ment interest is about 3% even for those who walked away two years ago and are starting over to lose again in THIS BUBBLE.
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Couple ready to face off in Orland Park chili competition
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Loretta & Jose Torres, of Orland Park. | File photo
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While they may be partners in marriage, Jose and Loretta Torres are fierce competitors when it comes to making chili.
The Orland Park couple are at work tweaking their entries for the village's annual "Chilly Willie Chili Challenge," which will be held Jan. 19 at the Orland Park Civic Center, 14750 Ravinia Ave.
"I don't know what she puts in hers, and she doesn't know what goes in mine," said Jose Torres, who's worked as a chef at Rock Bottom Restaurant & Brewery in Orland Park for nearly three years.
The event draws competitors from around the country, and 38 cooks took part last year. It is sanctioned by the International Chili Society and the Chili Appreciation Society International.
Torres has been a competitor in the event for several years, even driving in from Rockford before he and his wife moved to Orland Park in 1998. The couple have been married 12 years, and Torres said his wife first competed with him in Chilly Willie about 10 years ago.
"I just asked her 'Why don't you cook chili with me?' " he said.
Last year, Torres received the "People's Choice Award" as the unanimous choice among members of the public who came to sample the chilis. He said he takes part in four or five chili competitions each year.
Torres says he experiments with chili variations "throughout the year," and that at Rock Bottom in early November he paired foods, including different types of chili he prepared, with beers that featured chilies and peppers as ingredients.
Competitors in Chilly Willie have to cook their chili from scratch and on site the day of the contest. In past years, cooks were limited to the traditional red, salsa or verde chilis, but the International Chili Society has added a "homestyle" category this year that permits nontraditional ingredients such as beans, macaroni or hominy.
Torres said he's a judge in a Jan. 4 chili competition held by the Brewers of South Suburbia, a club of home brew enthusiasts. He said that, for whoever wins the contest, he'll pay their fee to enter the Orland Park competition in the homestyle category.
Contestants need to prepare a minimum of two quarts of competition chili, plus another gallon for the public tasting that determines the People's Choice award.
Public tasting at the Chilly Willie challenge starts at 2 p.m. and continues until the chili runs out. All-you-can-eat tasting cups cost $5, with proceeds helping the village's special recreation program.
Also, about 100 judges are needed for the event. For information on being a judge, contact Patty Vlazny at (708) 403-6145.


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i find it very hot. i only wish i had a cam so i can post pics of me. i am very femme
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Another Sexy Tranny from the web
These are not pictures of me.
But, my favorite fetish is guys wearing tight tiny panties.
Really makes my dick hard!
Let me know if you like these pics. I will post more.
I think you'll find that the pics in the first post will be a nekoboy (neko is Japanese for cat).
And femboys do turn me on! A lot.
Nothing hotter than a cute twink, femboy. Any offers?
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And not all of it does, but some of it turns me on. I'll admit it.
[QUOTE=marleyisalegend;3986173]this is unbelievably sexy
(Where's the Groucho smiley face?)You're right. The fact that anyone would find it sexy is unbelievable.
that is kind of tacky but a lot of these photos are hot as hell. i used to cross sometimes for my first serious boyfriend (it totally got him off) and i am loving seeing these photos.
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Hey all, I wrote this up for a literature class. It was inspired by a poem we read a little bit, but then again a little not. I hope you enjoy it, it's about two pages in microsoft word, thanks for giving me your time!
2008©Fable Hill and all that stuff
I dropped the apron on a hook and left the mocha scented building at four every day, except Sundays.
It was a Monday, nothing special. I opened the door and the wind bit a little, like it was looking for something. So I shrugged my coat up higher and took off to show just what I thought of that. A few steps and I joined my human race, winter shells of windbreaker and fleece all grey and brown as the light set. I bumped one man hard in the shoulder, and I thought about dinner. Better just heat something up, maybe noodles, I
decided. An old womans boot skidded and knocked against mine, and she rummaged through her purse with a shaking hand, her face irritated. On
we went.
The setting sun turned the sky steadily darker shades of grey, the glow of the red hand brilliant as I looked at the stop lights and saw my thoughts
instead. What was on TV? I wasnt fond of the winter seasons so far, and tried to remember if there was an unfinished book tucked away somewhere I had forgotten. Hell, I could just go to sleep when the sun went down. Might as well, really. The red hand disappeared, the little man appeared and I stepped off the curb as two shopping bags rustled and collided with my leg. I cant remember what their owners looked like as they forged ahead, arms linked, cell phones out. Walking strong they knocked their bags into him, kept going, typing away.
We met half way across the street, the counter flashing fifteen seconds fourteen thirteen
This guy walked funny. His boots slid on dry patches; his hands hung chapped, free of coat pockets. My feet tread a wider circle as I wondered if I had any milk left in the fridge. The wind had doubled back on its search pattern, gusting with purpose, and something red flicked in the corner of my eye. A scarf, sailing like an airborne snake towards the ground. His shoe caught the end of it, skidded, moved on.
I could always stop somewhere on the way, I thought as my boots faltered. Its a hassle carrying a whole half gallon home, I guess, but that one places less than two blocks. The counter flashed ten nine eight does he know he lost that?
I saw the cars poised impatiently with a sudden clarity. My fingers caught in my pocket lining as I yanked them out of hiding, purse sliding awkwardly down as I bent over, and closed them on the fluttering scarf, freshly wet and muddy in spots. The wind pulled petulantly as I heard the motors hum, and I felt the knitted fabric beneath my thumb for a moment. The man stumbled on, gaining the sidewalk. Dumb drunk probably. Dumb homeless drunk, probably. Six five
Some driver, nervous I might be planning on standing there a bit too long, played a loud note in the grey air. Four
Sir! Um, sir!
I had a meal to make and maybe some milk to buy and important things to do, and on he went as if he didnt care. Stumbling and awkward, long dark coat unbuttoned, flapping behind him, he moved away as if deaf. Dumb homeless flaked-out drunk, I decided the sidewalk salt crunched as I moved back the way Id come. Sir, wait please! You dropped this!
Three the scarf whipped a bit as I hurried after, irate. I was nearly at the curb and (two ) he was moving so slow, Id get him in a second. Hand over the (one) dumb thing and go home, railing against insensitive, self-absorbed types.
Hey, wait!
I tapped his shoulder as the light changed, the honker peeling out into the street to speed into a parking ramp across the way. Other cars followed in a rush behind me, and then he turned.
Maybe thirty eight, maybe forty? His hair was oily and clean cut, fair and shoved in sticky strings away from his pale face. Grooves on his nose were the footprints of the glasses in his shirt pocket, his lips chapped as they hung slightly parted.
And his eyes. Puffed and swollen, bright circles of color on a faded face that glistened with wet tracks rolling down from them, dripping away from his unshaven chin. As we stood there, time frozen, he let out a great shudder, the act of breathing deeply shaking him as our eyes met . Birds hung motionless in flight, cars blurred, momentarily unmoving, people transformed to pretty two-dimensional posters. My voice seemed unbearably loud and harsh.
You dropped your scarf.
Our stare broke, life resumed its pace as he observed the thing I held with an awkward newness, like it were foreign. A tear dropped to leave a wine colored spot on the red fabric. Then, his stiff fingers reached forward, the knuckles ethereally translucent and blue with cold. I will give him my gloves, I thought desperately as he lifted his scarf back to his neck, but no, theyd be too small.
Then I say something, I thought, as a truck roared past and drenched me and him in dry dirty smoke. Say something wise words. Poetic, powerful phrases rushed through my head without stopping, words of comfort or sympathy all protesting that they didnt fit if they didnt know what to comfort. I had nothing to say, as his cracked lips moved soundlessly a moment, his eyes watering further as he stared at the scarf in his hands. Then something like a voice, hoarse and husky issued forth.
"Thanks." he said.
Its nothing. I answered quickly, shifting my purse strap higher and looking away. He shuddered once more, and with a wobbly, rocking footstep turned himself about and trudged away. I thought about stopping him, calling out or offering help. In my head I asked him what was wrong, and in reality I blinked fiercely and turned back the way Id come, cars still whizzing through the crosswalk.
I turned my head once, but he just staggered on, scarf whipping in his grasp. When the walk signal returned, I walked, making my way homeward and feeling hyper aware. Now, I heard the world around me, saw the people, and wished, subconsciously, for someone anyone to knock into me, so I could say something.
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Wow. Just. Wow. That was chilling and beautiful and sad all at the same time. I've got chills from the imagery and I can feel that wind as I read it. Wow.
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I'm going to second Alli's words here and say that the piece was...amazingly vivid. I normally don't comment on writing, but I felt I had to. I guess I had to bump into someone, so I would have something to say?
Very powerful, definitely worth reading. Two thumbs up!
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Thank you, so much guys, for reading it.
I think I might start trying to scratch a mark somewhere in the writing world with this, I don't know, send to some literary magazine or something. But I can't tell you how much I appreciate the positive feedback. Thank you!
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Ooh, I like this. Particularly your unusual wordings, the clear setting and the excellent mixture of descriptions and thoughts. How come I never see you in the WGs?
....oh, what counter was she talking about?
I didn't get that.
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Ah, see, I was concerned not everyone would get that. In a lot of major cities in the US, street lights now have counters that tell you how many seconds you have left to get across that darn street. Just at major intersections, the first time I saw them was in Washington D.C. I don't know if anywhere else has picked them up yet.
thank you so much for reading!
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They got 'em in my town, and they had 'em on the Oregon Coast, so I think they're fairly standard (in the US), even if new.
...In accordance with the prophesy.
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They are mostly standard in the US from what I know. Even my state's major cities have them, and my state is (in)famous for being ten years behind the rest of the country, at least.
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Eheheh. We don't even have street lights, much less counters, in my city. And while many cities do have lights, I've never seen a counter. ^^;;
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XD sorry for the semi-obscure reference then. It's supposed to aid in symbolism, or some nonsense like that...
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Congratulations to Mary Ann Rose, president/CEO of Tamar Productions, Inc., who was recently elected chairman of The Greater North Michigan Avenue Association. Ms. Rose is a special events industry leader and owner of Mary, Mary gift boutique. She's also involved with numerous charities.
Ms. Rose is the third woman to serve as chairman in the association's 100-year history. "It's a great honor to be selected by my peers to chair this outstanding business organization," she says, " and I'm very excited about working with such a distinguished group of professionals who really care about the city of Chicago. Each of them has a passion for this city that is truly unheard of in today's time and age. Having been a businesswoman over the past 30 years, and having founded two successful businesses of my own, however, I'd hope that I was selected on my ability, my reputation, as well as my contributions to GNMAA over the years and not just as a woman. I also hope that I can contribute in my own way to the continued success of the organization."
As president/CEO of Tamar Productions, Inc., Ms. Rose is no stranger to strategic planning. "Tamar Productions Inc. is an Illinois licensed, full-service special event and destination management company specializing in meetings and events of all sizes," she says. "From intimate cocktail receptions for 25 to large-scale conventions for over 20,000 attendees, our professional and personal approach, along with a healthy respect for our client¹s budget is a Tamar Hallmark."
Nine years ago, due to requests for corporate gifts as part of Tamar Productions corporate events, Ms. Rose decided to open Mary Mary Gifts on the first floor of the building that houses Tamar's offices. "Since the building is 135-years old and has a great deal of charm, and the space was available, this was the perfect place for opening the boutique," explains Ms Rose. "At the same time, it fulfilled one of my dreams to have my own gift shop. The best part is I get to travel all over the world with my husband, shopping for interesting and creative gifts and meeting some really great people who have become my friends as well as customers."
When asked about her plans for the Association, Ms. Rose said, "On an immediate note, I'm working to familiarize myself with all of the different divisions of GNMAA. I have always been involved with the Planning and Advocacy Division, because they deal directly with sign and urban design, project review, beautification of the mile, security and traffic."
Ms. Rose is also involved with the Marketing Division and sustaining The Magnificent Mile brand. "We also have the Meetings and Events and Membership Divisions as well as The Magnificent Mile Charitable Foundation, which supports local charities," she shares. "So as you can see, there's a great deal of work ahead of me. However, my immediate, as well as long-term goal, is to get the word out internationally that we are one of the top shopping avenues of the world. Everyone talks about Rodeo Drive, Fifth Avenue, Bond Street, the Champs-Elysees and even the Ginza, but we have the most beautiful and magnificent mile for shopping anywhere and we need to shout it from the roof tops. When international tourists think of shopping, Chicago should be the first thing that comes to their minds. Not only do we have all the great brands within a short walking distance, The Magnificent Mile is a beautiful location that boasts outstanding architecture, beautiful plantings and green space and, above all, the friendliest in Midwestern hospitality."