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I tried reading a few of his short stories, I saw a ghost story, and one that I couldn't get into long enough to find out what it was about.
What's the good stuff? and is all of his writing so dry? maybe I'm just not a fan of his writing style.
Posted 20 August 2009 - 01:41 PM
I tried reading a few of his short stories, I saw a ghost story, and one that I couldn't get into long enough to find out what it was about.
What's the good stuff? and is all of his writing so dry? maybe I'm just not a fan of his writing style.
Posted 23 August 2009 - 02:43 AM
the colour out of space
shadow over innsmouth
Posted 27 August 2009 - 11:12 PM
I recommend that you read one or more of the following stories:
At The Mountains of Madness (one of his longest stories, but that doesn't say much)
The Whisperer in the Darkness
The Call of Cthulhu
The Dunwich Horror
The Shadow Over Innsmouth
The Shadow Out of Time
And yes, his style is quite old-fashioned. But I still suggest that you give him a try.
Posted 17 September 2009 - 11:15 PM
I was drawn into the game by the artwork. I have tried several of his stories as audiobooks. I could not finish At the mountains of madness because it was too boring. I don't understand. I enjoy the world of Lovecraft but not so much his writing so far. I liked the short story in the asylum packs. Can you recommend some stories to me. Especially those that feature the characters and places of the Hastur faction. One story I liked was the one that features Erich Zann.
Posted 19 September 2009 - 12:01 PM
if you like the hastur id check out robert chambers, the king in yellow. its a pretty good collection of stories that are more in key with the hastur stuff. lovecraft didnt write much on issue of hastur and such. dream quest has an encounter with a high priest or something and a few stories mention hastur.
Posted 14 November 2009 - 02:33 PM
My personal favorites are
The Shunned House
The Statement of Randolph Carter
Posted 20 January 2010 - 06:42 AM
Are the books and writings in any kind of order ? Is there like a guide book or source book of some kind ?
Posted 27 February 2010 - 07:56 AM
mischraum.de said:
I could not finish At the mountains of madness because it was too boring. I don't understand.
My friend also found the story hard to read through. I loved it, but I can see where people are coming from. From that logic The Case of Charles Dexter Ward is horrible. I've only read a few pages of it, but I simply could not get into it.
As for stories to get into, I'd suggest Dagon. That story is one of his most powerful and yet one of his shortest. The Color out of Space is also an excellent read. It's really one of his best stories that plays off of his theories on horror.
Posted 28 March 2010 - 03:10 AM
I recently introduced the CoC card game to my girlfriend and she's fallen in love with it. She seems to be into the characters and is looking for one of the books to read. I haven't really read much of Lovecraft's works, just wondering what some of you might think the fairer gender might like more.
Posted 29 March 2010 - 04:48 PM
I just got my hands on a collection for short stories, but I haven't gotten too far into it. It has 16 different ones though, so she could probably choose what interests her.
I also watched a movie called "The Call of Cthulhu" which a friend of mine told me followed the story almost perfectly I am a girl, and I thought it was really interesting
It was filmed recently, but is filmed as a silent film and let me tell you, the "special" effects make it entertaining no matter if you are into Lovecraft or not!
Posted 28 April 2010 - 05:08 PM
After reading a lot of H.P. Lovecraft's stuff from various publishers I think the collection from Penguin Publishing "The Call of Cthulhu and Other Weird Stories" is the best I have bought. It has a good selection starting with some of the easier to manage stories all the way to the popular and lengthier stories like "Call of Cthulhu" the "Shadow Over Innsmouth" and "The Whisperer in Darkness". It's a fair priced collection about $12 bucks. I let my girl borrow it and she read the ones she liked and gave it back to me so that is probably where I would start.
Posted 22 September 2010 - 06:48 AM
Yeah you either like Lovecraft's style of writing or you don't, I never found it dry, don't think Ive ever read a bad Lovecraft story, the first one I ever read was The Outsider, and my jaw literally drooped at the climax, the only other writer, not that Ive read many, to effect me in that way is Philip K. ****
Posted 28 October 2010 - 06:06 AM
I run a H.P. Lovecraft reading and discussion group and this is a very common problem that people have with Lovecraft. He isn't an easy guy to read and some of his stuff is really... Bad... I'm a huge fan but I have to say that some of his stuff is damn near impossible to read.
I would say that the best stories to start with are... Pickmans Model, The Picture in the House and The Outsider. All of those are short and sweet. Easy enough to wrap your head around and aren't filled with a bunch of "eldrich" vocabulary.
Posted 28 October 2010 - 06:12 AM
A good place to start would be a 'Lovecraft' story called 'The case of Charles Dexter Ward'
Posted 05 November 2010 - 12:54 PM
The HPLS did some great audio versions, At the Mountains of Madness is amazingly well done in the style of an old radio broadcast.
Posted 26 November 2010 - 12:42 PM
A while back I copied over a list of recommended reading presented in Chaosium's Call of Cthulhu RPG manual into a similar thread. Check it out here.
If you just plain can't get into his style of writing, you can still enjoy the benefits of having read them by listening to the H.P. Lovecraft Literary Podcast at hppodcraft.com, The entertaining, light-hearted discussions give a complete overview of each story, as well as lots of insights to themes, characters & other aspects that even a seasoned fan may have missed.
Posted 17 May 2011 - 07:23 PM
sounds like a great game , i'm tempted .
Posted 13 August 2011 - 09:19 AM
I'll preface this by saying I've read a fair amount of his stories (about half), but not all, so these recommendations are based solely on what I've read. "The Call of Cthulhu," while not fantastic, essentially encompasses what the Mythos is all about and thus is pretty much required reading. "The Shadow Over Innsmouth" is by far the best of the stuff I've read. One of Lovecraft's specialties is short, sweet tales with excellent endings. For this, seek out "Memory" (which is so short that it's pretty much all ending), "The White Ship," "The Terrible Old Man," The Strange High House in the Mist" (unusually long for this type of story, but worth it), "The Cats of Ulthar," "The Outsider," "Celephais" (I know that should have the two-dot symbol over the i, but I don't know how to make it on my keyboard), "From Beyond," and "The Quest of Iranon." "Pickman's Model" is also a personal favorite of mine, although you may not enjoy it as much. On the longer side, "The Case of Charles Dexter Ward" is, as has been mentioned, utterly interminable, but pretty cool if you can slog through it. On the flip side, "The Shadow out of Time," while possessing a pretty cool premise, is unthinkably slow and boring and should be avoided. "The Dunwich Horror" is pretty fun; although it's one of the longer ones, it doesn't suffer from the same pacing problems.
Now, I'm sure this will prompt many here to cry blasphemy, but I don't actually find most of Lovecraft's works very scary. The main meat of the horror (and the reason Lovecraft is so famous) is the idea that humanity is incredibly small, powerless, and insignificant in a larger universe. Once you get past that, the stories are not very scary on a visceral level. Exceptions are the aforementioned "innsmouth," to a certain extent "Charles Dexter Ward," "The Temple," "Herbert West-Reanimator," and "The Lurking Fear."
Oh, and as a final note, Lovecraft has one (and only one) humorous story, "Sweet Ermengarde." It's actually quite funny, which is surprising given his usual style.
Posted 07 March 2013 - 01:54 PM
Some good stories to approximate to Lovecraft are: Pickmans Model , The Hound or The music of Erich Zann.
They are not very long and I think they have a spooky atmosphere …
Some of my friends liked them though they were not interested in Lovecrafts stories before.

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Cycle path mannersGood morning everyone,
I just wanted to say that although I'm not riding in a pack kitted out in matching lycra or riding the latest, snazziest bike, I have just as much right to ride to work as people (seems to be blokes mostly) who do ride in packs. This morning I was cycling happily along up the hill towards Mt Lawley station (coming from Bayswater) and had moved out to the right to pass a jogger who was taking up quite a bit of the lane by jogging in the middle of it. As we were on a hill anyone coming up behind us would've easily been able to see us both and see what I was doing and be able to slow down until it was safe to pass. I was cycling slightly to the right of the middle of the path (nothing coming towards us) while I passed the jogger and then had three blokes in blue come up behind me ringing bells and telling me to move as people wanted to pass. Yeah, I get that, I was trying to pass the jogger. Maybe my bike is a bit on the old and tatty side and rides like I'm riding through treacle but I like it. Perhaps it's not the coolest thing in the cycling world to have a basket but it quite handily holds my stuff. No, I'm not wearing lycra - I'm not riding in the Olympics. I don't hang out in the locker room or kitchen at work trying to impress people with my PB time. I really enjoy my ride to work (usually) but rude people like the pack blokes that passed me this morning can take the shine off it a bit. Learn some effing manners and learn to share the bike path. If someone were driving a car and overtaking you would not then overtake the overtaker - or would you?? Have a bit of patience. I completely stand by my out of breath utterance of "eff off, you tw*ts" as you passed me. Cheers, Meesh
Re: Cycle path mannersYou got it wrong Meesh. The world revolves around them, not you. You should have been looking back with astro travel knowledge that they were approaching, and you should have been the one to slow down to let them pass first.
Get used to it, or get frustrated =D
Re: Cycle path mannersI saw your bike in the Mr Bean movie. Three against one I'm afraid, don't be a lane hog
Re: Cycle path mannersI wish they'd learn to hold their power going up 'climbs' ... guys, it's not really a climb, it's a hill and you need to be consistent.
That being said, I'd like to apologise for my behaviour yesterday, I shouldn't have been trying to break that Strava record... my bad
Re: Cycle path mannersKeep on enjoying your ride to work Meesh and don't be put off by those ignorant riders who treat the PSPs as training tracks.
Too old to live, too slow to die.
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Re: Cycle path mannersI don't like anyone going crazy on paths and it doesn't matter the bike or the attire or the personality. I've been riding home from work complete with carbon bike, Lycra and backpack only to get a puncture. Of the 15 or so people who passed me, the 5 Lycra clad roadies without any trace of "commuter" stopped and asked if I was ok and needed a hand. The full on commuters were too busy beating their time home to even acknowledge me. I didn't think much of the pure commuters that night.
I think all cyclists are guilty of doing their best time at various times and can all be arrogant buggers - bike and attire are irrelevant. Except me of course...and you
Re: Cycle path mannersCrazies are not good anywhere.
I've only seen one person stopped by the side of the path so far and would've stopped to offer assistance but saw he was just messing with his ipod thing so continued on my panting way. Not sure I would be of much practical help to anyone with a puncture but always happy to offer moral support! Cheers for listening to my little rant earlier. I will still love my ride to work and am looking forward to the ride home in this lovely weather! Especially when I hit Bayswater train station and know it's not much further for me and my rusty old treacle bike to go!
Re: Cycle path mannersI agree with eldavo.
I always look over my shoulder for faster riders before overtaking a slower rider or pedestrian. If a faster rider(s) are coming up behind me I slow down & let them overtake FIRST as this is by far the safest scenario for all parties. When overtaking you are no longer holding a consistent line so checking for riders behind is common courtesy IMHO. I do however agree that the reaction of these riders was unnecessary.
Re: Cycle path mannersAt the end of the day it's not too hard to drop the pace briefly to negotiate the obstacle. It will only cost seconds and if your best time is coming down to seconds you should be at the AIS and not on the PSP.
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Re: Cycle path mannersSorry michael I thought I had enough sarcasm in my response for Meesh, but I guess I forgot the winking smiley face =P
While providing joking support to Meesh for better manners, like you I do personally look back knowing and only overtake if it is safe behind, as well as ahead. About manners, I try to stick to silence if I don't have anything positive to say, negotiate traffic safely and keep my observations to myself. The group of mums, kids, and prams, congregating at the path intersection of Carine Open space having a social chit chat with no signs of coming or going, all seemed bewildered while I was near track standing with horn honking as they slowly realised yes you are all blocking the path, yes it is a chunky curb and sand and posts all around, and yes it is a mother dunkin' shared path intersection to a car park, grab a clue. I managed to keep the hulk inside though and waited for them to make some room and letting the psychotic thoughts of bloody mass murder pass quietly as I got rolling again. Worlds of slow and fast will collide, but it is manners that keep society from falling into random violence.
Re: Cycle path manners
Totally agree. And yep, I picked up on your sarcasm earlier.
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Wel, if you rely on that I'll see you in emergency. It might be "courteous" but it's the responsibilty of the person behind to not rear end anyone (there's plenty of case law out there). And a hand extended is as likely to be "I'm changing lanes" (as per road rules) as it's "pass me" (as per peleton etiquette). Be very careful (and understanding) Stop handing them the stick! - Dave Moulton
Re: Cycle path mannersNever a pleasant experience but a lot less dangerous than if they were driving their pajeros at the time.
...whatever the road rules, self-preservation is the absolute priority for a cyclist when mixing it with motorised traffic.
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Re: Cycle path mannersOn cycling manners, cyclist with bright lights ADJUST them to point at the path you are ridding on,
blinding other ridders is just stupid and dangerous !! end rant: Orbea Euskaltel:Ultegra,Durace,RS80
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Re: Cycle path mannersI had a very similar experience to Meesh today. There was a pedestrian in the same lane and an oncoming cyclist preventing me from getting around the pedestrian correctly. So I slowed down behind the pedestrian and passed at the first opportunity, ie once the oncoming cyclist was through. In the meantime I had seen three cyclists coming up behind me in the mirror so I was aware they were there. But I was very surprised when they screamed passed me as I was pulling in from overtaking the pedestrian - so they were well out in the oncoming lane - which is fine except there was a pedestrian coming the other way and frankly there wasn't enough room to pass safely. Especially not at the speeds they were doing.
The pedestrians have just as much right to be on the path and be passed with a decent berth, not by millimetres. PSP doesn't stand for Particularly Selfish Peddlers!
Re: Cycle path mannersWhile I agree with many of the sentiments expressed, I think that sometimes we forget that cyclists are just a cross section of society that happen to have a penchant for cycling. Go to any other situation where people interact and you will see the same range of behaviour: some people thoughtful and courteous, others self-centred and rude. Cars on the freeway, queues at the airport, shopping centres. I just try and keep myself safe (and if we are all doing that to a degree, we will all be safe) and don't stress over the things that I can't change.
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I experience this just about every day. Only difference is it no longer surprises me and I've come to expect and anticipate it. I think they take a big risk to expect the same of many pedestrians, though. "Lexa": 2012 Trek Lexa S; "Bluey": 2006 Trek 7.0FX
Re: Cycle path mannersActually I experience it quite a lot as well. I guess I was just more aware of it this morning after reading Meesh's account and it got me thinking that we shouldn't just be saying "it's okay, it happens all the time". Things don't change if we have an attitude like that. That said, there is nothing I can do to change the behaviour of the losers this morning and I somehow doubt they would be on the BNA forum.
Re: Cycle path mannersI've even had one of the pack losers tell me to get off the path when I was cycling normally on the left hand side of the correct lane as they passed me! Just dismissed that chap as a particularly loser-ish loser
Had an absolutely glorious ride in this morning though! No wallies to be seen, beautiful sunshine, gorgeous flower scents all along the way - loved it!!
Re: Cycle path mannersSame thing happened to me yesterday, there i was cycling up west coast hwy staying to the left of my lane when a bloke passing me blurted out some nonsense. Now I was on the road staying clear of slower cyclists and pedestrians, and the person blurting was in a car "Bike lane is over there" he said as he passed. Now the reason i ride on the road is that my speeds 40-50km/h(specifically along west coast hwy with a good tail wind) is far too dangerous to be amongst slower riders and pedestrians.
Doesn't matter where you are riding, if someone thinks they are bigger and/or stronger than you are they will take advantage of that fact, think growing a thicker skin for some may help or the HTFU approach. I'm not advocating that the cyclists harrasing behaviour wasn't wrong, but at the end of the day some people are just w*#kers regardless of what they are riding/driving/
Re: Cycle path mannersI also found yesterday there was a very high proportion of morons on bikes. May have been something to do with ride to work day, last year was the same. In contrast the ride today was perfect, a dozen (if that) other riders and no one was out for a free breakfast.
Ever since the vasectomy...I mostly ride fixed.
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