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Yosemite Southgate Hotel & Suites
Yosemite Southgate Hotel & Suites in Oakhurst
Yosemite Southgate Hotel & Suites
Hotel Guest Rating: 8.2/10
40644 Highway 41
Oakhurst, CA 93644
Yosemite Southgate Hotel & Suites
Located off the Southern Highway 41 Entrance to Yosemite, this California hotel boasts a seasonal outdoor pool and hot tub, has suites with free Wi-Fi and serves a daily continental breakfast. Oakhurst town centre is 1 mile away.A satellite TV with film channels, a microwave and a refrigerator are featured in all of the spacious suites at Shilo Inn - Yosemite Southgate Hotel & Suites. All of the comfortable suites include a desk and tea and coffee-making facilities.An on-site sauna and spa are offered to guests at Yosemite Southgate Hotel & Suites - Shilo Inn. Guests can enjoy a workout in the hotel fitness centre or stop by the on-site business centre. For convenience the hotel offers 24-hour reception and a guest launderette.Yosemite National Park is 15 miles from this hotel. Bass Lake is 15 minutes' drive away. Yosemite Mountain Sugar Pine Historical Railroad is 20 minutes' drive away. ...read more
- Internet services
- Fitness centre
- Business centre
- Free parking
Yosemite Southgate Hotel & Suites Amenities
- 24-hour front desk
- Air conditioning
- Business centre
- Express check-in/check-out
- Facilities for disabled guests
- Family rooms
- Fitness centre
- Free parking
- Free WiFi
- Heating
- Hot tub
- Internet services
- Laundry
- Lift
- Non-smoking rooms
- Non-smoking throughout
- On-site parking
- Outdoor pool (seasonal)
- Safety deposit box
- Sauna
- Spa and wellness centre
- Sun terrace
- Vending machine (drinks)
- Vending machine (snacks)
- WiFi
- WiFi available in all areas
Hotel Information
You must show a valid photo ID and credit card upon check-in. Please note that all special requests cannot be guaranteed and are subject to availability upon check-in. Additional charges may apply.Please note when booking 6 or more room nights additional fees and supplements apply. Guests are required to show a photo identification and credit card upon check-in. Please note that all Special Requests are subject to availability and additional charges may apply.
Hotel Guest Reviews of the Yosemite Southgate Hotel & SuitesOur hotel ratings and reviews are from real hotel guests. Priceline.com ensures that its reviews are guests-only by proactively sending hotel surveys to customers after they've completed their hotel stays. In the post-stay surveys, priceline.com hotel customers are asked a number of questions about their stay and the hotel. On a scale of 1-10 with 10 being the best, the survey asks guests to rate their overall experience and specifically rate the hotel's cleanliness, staff and location. Priceline.com does not allow site visitors to post unsolicited hotel reviews.
July 14, 2014
Family Traveling with Young Children
July 10, 2014
Group Traveler
May 29, 2014
Family Traveling with Young Children
This guest did not leave comments about this hotel.
May 26, 2014
Family Traveling with Teens
Very convenient to the parks, I would recommend it to other visitors.
May 19, 2014
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May 5, 2014
Business Traveler
The staff was friendly and helpful. The rooms are updated and have have a kitchenette with a sink, microwave, large refrigerator. VERY comfortable beds. Nice sitting area with a couch, table, and two chairs. Also, great work service.
September 8, 2013
Hotel was below average for what I paid. Not sure if there would have been anything better. Location was convenient for quick entry into south entrance of the park.
June 27, 2013
Family Traveling with Teens
Good location outside of south Yosemite entrance. Easy to find. Room was spacious, with the sink separate from the toliet (made getting teens going in the morning easier). Extra sink in the mini kitchen. Could easily spend a few days at this hotel and not feel crowded in this standard room.
May 21, 2013
As mentioned above, you have no privacy after a shower, you have no privacy for cleaning up, no privacy for dressing. You wake up anyone who is trying to sleep later if you must clean up or brush your teeth. The wash basin is IN THE BEDROOM. The toilet and shower are the only items in a room by themselves, and the light switch is in the entry hall. The light switch is not even in the bathroom. The tree and leaves outside the window is the only view. You open the curtains and see leaves against the window. The continental breakfast has a lot to be desired. There is only dry cereal for grownups, nothing the children would like. There are two waffle makers that you have to stand in line. There is no seating for breakfast and only apples and oranges. They provide a small room down the hallway with 4 tables and the room is stuffy and HOT, no view. You never know the seating is there and then there is a small room inside that room (like a closet) where they have muffins and stacked toast. You do not know it is there unless you happen to get a table and pass the open closet door. Other hotels offer waffles, scrambled eggs, hard boiled eggs, bacon, sausage, bagels, biscuits, variety of fruit, bananas, make your own toast and get it hot, and cereals kids like...etc.etc. Quite a disappointment... location is the only good thing and maybe when they open the Denny's restaurant in the same parking lot we can get a breakfast. But then you will still have the problem of privacy when dressing and brushing your teeth. You may only identify me by husbands first name - Leonard ...
April 28, 2013
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Balsamic roasted sausages
Balsamic vinegar isn't just for splashing on salads - you can also use it to flavour sausages for a tasty midweek meal.
|Chipolata sausages, pork
|2 Tbsp
|Olive oil
|6 pieces
|250 g
|Mushrooms, sliced
|150 g
|Cherry tomatoes
|2 Tbsp
|Balsamic vinegar
|Ciabatta rolls, or long rolls
|1 to serve
|½ cup
- Preheat oven to 220C. Place the sausages in a roasting dish with a little oil and the thyme sprigs. Cook for 10 minutes, then add the mushrooms and both kinds of tomatoes. Drizzle over the remaining oil and the balsamic vinegar. Cook for a further 10 minutes, until the sausages are golden brown and cooked.
- Split the rolls in half and warm them in the oven for the final 5 minutes of the sausage cooking time.
- Serve the sausages piled on to the rolls and top with the tomatoes, mushrooms, chutney or tomato sauce and a few leaves of rocket.
Wine match by Brancott Estate
Nanadebzadded 775 days ago
This dish is lovely, I have done it twice once as is for a sunday brunch which went a treat and then I added my own twist to it by not putting it on rolls and adding a salad of cucumber ribbons,grilled halumi,red onions & croutons with a drizzle of the balsamic reduction. This was a quick mid week evening meal.

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I am trying to get Outlook 2007 to automaticaly set up a users account using the info in Active Directory. At the moment it will pick up the users userPrincipalName of firstname.lastname@example.com and their password, along with their CN. This is all fine, I have created an autodiscover xml file and dumped it in the outlook program file along with the other default ones and created the corresponding registry file. I have also added in the Outlook GP items to our Server (2008) and have forced a few changes on there.
Is there a way of forcing Outlook 2007 to pick up the users email field insted of the UPN?
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1969 Chevrolet Camaro SS SS
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Completing a three year transformation from solid Detroit steel into a lean, mean Chevrolet dream machine, this spectacular F1 Camaro displays bodywork that's nothing short of immaculate! The car's ground up nut and bolt restoration started with a new frame and an original '69 Camaro body that, by the looks of things, had never seen any major rust or any significant damage. Once those components were married together, every one of that body's panels was aligned to better than factory fit between seams that were made narrow and precise. And when those professionally fitted panels were as close to perfect as possible, a custom mix of 3-stage Sherwin-Williams red was sealed under a mirror-like clearcoat that, thanks to thorough sanding and tedious buffing, perfectly highlights the car's classic American lines. The end result is one seriously lethal showpiece that has major presence and unbelievable curb appeal!
When it comes to purity of form, I can't think of a better design than the '69 Camaro Rally Sport. And this awesome red resto-mod features a host of aggressive upgrades which feel so natural they could've rolled out of GM's Norwood manufacturing facility over 43 years ago. At the front of the car's body a black, stainless-trimmed grille hangs fresh Rally Sport headlights above modern halogen parking lamps and a smoothed, tucked and painted bumper. Above that grille, a traditional ZL2 cowl induction hood flows toward a smoothed cowl panel which anchors pristine greenhouse glass inside shaved drip rails and new stainless frames. Below that hood, shaved marker lights combine with shaved mirrors, shaved door handles and widened rear wheel openings to highlight the car's solid, sculpted profile. And at the back of those marker lights, a custom rear decklid rides between custom rear fender extensions, a custom rear valence, flush-fitting tail lights and a second smoothed, tucked and painted bumper. While the description of this F1's massaged body may sound deceptively simple, its appearance is every bit as alluring as it is clean!
That said, if you think the exterior of this buff pavement pounder is impressive, you're going to LOVE what's under its hood. Pop the car's traditional latch and you'll find 502 cubic inches of GM Performance Parts V8 that produces roughly 700 horsepower and makes the kind of killer noise that elicits an immediate 'deer in the headlights' look from anything with ear drums. At the top of that decked block oxygen flows through a custom, body-matched air cleaner into a coated Edelbrock 4-barrel carburetor which is fed by new stainless fuel lines and operated by a sleeved throttle cable. The resulting high octane air/fuel mixture makes its way from a polished aluminum intake to shaved and polished heads that are topped with a slick pair of custom valve covers. Once that air/fuel mixture hits the cylinders, a Mallory Unilite distributor sends fire to hidden Taylor plug wires which spark in perfect time with a custom camshaft. And when that air/fuel mixture is compressed, spent gases exit through custom, ceramic coated long tube headers which perfectly complement the block's flawless red paint. Cooling for the big engine is provided by a giant, body-matched radiator that's equipped with both a large electric puller fan and a small polished cap. Charging comes courtesy of a polished alternator which, along with a polished AC compressor and a polished water pump, is spun by an aesthetically pleasing Billet Specialties Tru Trac serpentine system. And the car''s engine compartment is exceptionally clean featuring a smoothed red firewall behind smoothed red fenders, and details such as billet hood hinges, a polished breather, a polished thermostat housing and a liquid filled Mooneyes temperature gauge which add icing to the big block cake.
At the bottom of this brutal bowtie, a slick shifting Tremec TKO600 5-speed manual transmission spins a Currie nine inch Posi-traction rear end that hangs stout 4.11 gears inside a completely polished case. Holding that top-notch drivetrain off the ground is a tubular Total Cost Involved front subframe, which rides on chrome-plated control arms, chrome-plated spindles and adjustable coil over shocks, and a Detroit Speed Engineering QUADRAlink four bar rear suspension, which makes good use of a high quality Panhard bar, mini tubs and two more adjustable coil over shocks. Braking is provided by a four wheel Wilwood system which applies pressure to giant drilled and slotted rotors via braided lines, polished six piston front calipers and polished four piston rear calipers. Turns come courtesy of manual rack and pinion steering which mixes traditional wheel feel with classic car style. And exhaust duties are handled by slick HPC pipes which funnel spent gases through an H-pipe crossover and great sounding Flowmaster dual chamber mufflers. The car's smoothed floorpans are clean and freshly restored to match its show quality undercarriage. Putting all the 502's power to the ground is a spectacular set of custom Boyd Coddington Spires which spin 235/40ZR18 BF Goodrich G-Force T/As in front of 295/45ZR20 BF Goodrich G-Force T/As. And all the right ancillary items like heavy duty subframe connectors, a custom fuel tank and a high torque mini starter provide a detailed and show-ready appearance.
Open this Camaro's shaved doors and you'll find a supple Cinnamon interior that's built around firm bucket seats and a nice blend of modern style and modern convenience. At the front of the car a custom, two-tone dash hangs a slick set of Stewart Warner Maximum Performance gauges between polished trim, billet vents and chrome foot pedals. Below that dash a full length center console, which features a swath of bright aluminum trim, props a modern short throw shifter between a polished Vintage Air control panel, a hidden MP3 cable, a remote controlled Clarion sound system and hidden switches for the car's four power windows. Below that console, high quality Berber-like carpet rides between custom sill plates and smoothed door jambs. At the sides of that carpet, custom leather panels wear mesh speaker grilles below sculpted armrests and exceptionally fabricated door handle coves. Above those side panels, a custom suede headliner anchors a billet rearview mirror between shaved sun visors. In front of the driver, a great looking Billet Specialties half-wrap steering wheel spins around a modern tilt steering column. And behind the passengers, a custom mesh package tray holds great sounding speakers in front of a fully finished trunk and a small amount of storage space.
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Best of Ourselves
Marcia Hyatt is a leadership and life coach who provides a weekly feature on WTIP's North Shore Weekend titled "The Best of Ourselves," which explores how we can be resilient and creative in these turbulent times. Each week, the feature explores what we can do to be intentional, creative and joyful in our lives.
Happiness: Learning to Accept What Is-
Everything we need for happiness we already have. Learning to accept what is and get out of our own way to happiness.
Happiness Formula-
Psychologists have created a happiness formula that summarizes the current research. We review the formula in Jonathan Haidt's Happiness Hypothesis.
Happiness: Inside Out-
Happiness from the inside out. Lessons from the book, The Happiness Hypothesis by Jonathan Haidt.
Gratitude to Ourselves-
How do we cultivate and express gratitude to ourselves? Is it selfish or a good foundation for a more joyful life? Marcia Hyatt explores this question on this edition of the B
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How do we express more gratitude and appreciation to those around us? Marcia Hyatt explores this question on this edition of the Best of Ourselves.


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by Kevin Fenton
Introduction to Chapter 15 of Disconnecting the Dots , for publication at 911Truth.org :
In January 2000, several high-ranking al-Qaeda operatives, including alleged Flight 77 hijackers Khalid Almihdhar and Nawaf Alhazmi, held a summit in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia. The meeting was monitored by the CIA and a local Malaysian service, although the agency reportedly failed to exploit this opportunity to learn what bin Laden's organization was planning. In addition, the CIA deliberately withheld information about the two men, in particular that Almihdhar had a US visa, from the FBI. The agency then allegedly suffered the misfortune of losing Almihdhar, Alhazmi and another al-Qaeda operative in Bangkok, Thailand. The surveillance of the Malaysia summit was run by Alec Station, the CIA's bin Laden unit, its chief Richard Blee and his deputy Tom Wilshire. On January 12 and 14 Blee gave his superior, Cofer Black, incorrect briefings about what was happening with the surveillance. Chapter 15 picks up the story on January 15.
Chapter 15
I know nobody read that cable
After the CIA allegedly lost Khalid Almihdhar, Nawaf Alhazmi, and Khallad bin Attash in Bangkok, it asked the Thais… Continue reading
It's front page news today that :
Journalists at Rupert Murdoch's now-shuttered News of the World paper tried to access the mobile phones of 9/11 victims, a former New York City police officer claimed on Monday.
It's also front page news today that the new Secretary of Defense, Leon Panetta, said that American soldiers are in Iraq because of 9/11 , even though AFP notes:
That was one of the justifications for the 2003 US-led invasion, but the argument has since been widely dismissed.
(see this for details).
But a more important story – and one which might focus on a more appropriate country than Iraq – is that the co-chair of the Congressional Joint 9/11 Inquiry (Bob Graham) today alleged a cover up by the U.S. government of state assistance by Saudi Arabia to the 9/11 hijackers.
Graham is no flake. He was a member of the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence for 10 years (including 18 months as chairman), member of the CIA External Advisory Board, chairman of the Commission on the Prevention of Weapons of Mass Destruction Proliferation and Terrorism, 18-year U.S. senator, two-term governor of Florida, co-chair of the national commission on the BP oil spill, and member of the Financial Crisis Inquiry Commission.
Graham writes today in the Daily Beast:
… Continue reading
The first two hijackers who entered the United States did so through Los Angeles International Airport in mid-January 2000. Within days they were urged by a shadowy man, already described in an FBI report as an "agent" of the Saudi government, to relocate to San Diego with promises of extensive support–promises on which he promptly delivered.?
May 20, 2011
By Greg Gordon
McClatchy Newspapers
WASHINGTON — Buried in FBI laboratory reports about the anthrax mail attacks that killed five people in 2001 is data suggesting that a chemical may have been added to try to heighten the powder's potency, a move that some experts say exceeded the expertise of the presumed killer.
The lab data, contained in more than 9,000 pages of files that emerged a year after the Justice Department closed its inquiry and condemned the late Army microbiologist Bruce Ivins as the perpetrator, shows unusual levels of silicon and tin in anthrax powder from two of the five letters.
Those elements are found in compounds that could be used to weaponize the anthrax, enabling the lethal spores to float easily so they could be readily inhaled by the intended victims, scientists say.
The existence of the silicon-tin chemical signature offered investigators the possibility of tracing purchases of the more than 100 such chemical products available before the attacks, which might have produced hard evidence against Ivins or led the agency to the real culprit.
But the FBI lab reports released in late February give no hint that bureau agents tried to find the buyers of additives such as tin-catalyzed silicone polymers.
The apparent failure of the FBI to pursue this avenue of investigation raises the ominous possibility that the killer is still on the loose.
A McClatchy analysis of the records also shows that other key scientific questions were… Continue reading
June 7 2006
FBI says, "No hard evidence connecting Bin Laden to 9/11″
Reread this full article, reprinted at 911truth.org from Muckraker (no longer available online) here:
No Hard Evidence Connecting bin Laden to 9/11
Courtesy of The Muckraker Report
June 6, 2006 — This past weekend, a thought provoking e-mail circulated through Internet news groups, and was sent to the Muckraker Report by Mr. Paul V. Sheridan (Winner of the 2005 Civil Justice Foundation Award), bringing attention to the FBI's Most Wanted Terrorist web page for Usama Bin Laden.[1] (See bottom of this web page for Most Wanted page) In the e-mail, the question is asked, "Why doesn't Usama Bin Laden's Most Wanted poster make any direct connection with the events of September 11, 2001?" The FBI says on its Bin Laden web page that Usama Bin Laden is wanted in connection with the August 7, 1998 bombings of the United States Embassies in Dar es Salaam, Tanzania, and Nairobi, Kenya. According to the FBI, these attacks killed over 200 people. The FBI concludes its reason for "wanting" Bin Laden by saying, "In addition, Bin Laden is a suspect in other terrorists attacks throughout the world."
On June 5, 2006, the Muckraker Report contacted the FBI Headquarters, (202) 324-3000, to learn why Bin Laden's Most Wanted poster did not indicate that Usama was also wanted in connection with 9/11. The Muckraker Report spoke with Rex Tomb, Chief of Investigative Publicity for the FBI. When asked why… Continue reading
by Kevin Ryan
Of the many unanswered questions about the attacks of September 11, one of the most important is: Why were none of the four planes intercepted? A rough answer is that the failure of the US air defenses can be traced to a number of factors and people. There were policy changes, facility changes, and personnel changes that had recently been made, and there were highly coincidental military exercises that were occurring on that day. But some of the most startling facts about the air defense failures have to do with the utter failure of communications between the agencies responsible for protecting the nation. At the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA), two people stood out in this failed chain of communications. One was a lawyer on his first day at the job, and another was a Special Operations Commander who was never held responsible for his critical role, or even questioned about it.
The 9/11 Commission wrote in its report that — "On 9/11, the defense of U.S. airspace depended on close interaction between two federal agencies: the FAA and the North American Aerospace Defense Command (NORAD)."[1]
According to the Commission, this interaction began with air traffic controllers (ATCs) at the relevant regional FAA control centers, which on 9/11 included Boston, New York, Cleveland, and Indianapolis. In the event of a hijacking, these ATCs were expected to "notify their supervisors, who in turn would inform management all the way up to FAA headquarters. Headquarters had a hijack coordinator, who was the director of the FAA Office of Civil Aviation Security or his or her designate.…Continue reading
by Sibel Edmonds Boiling Frogs
Newly Released 9/11 Commission Files at Cryptome.Org
Last week John Young's information site Cryptome.Org began publishing documents related to the interviews conducted by the 9/11 Commission which were released for the first time. On January 3, Cryptome posted the 9/11 Commission's report on my interview (the infamous Sibel Edmonds Case), and aptly titled this particular file as "Sibel Edmonds Censored Yet Again." Once you read the PDF document you'll quickly see the reason for Cryptome's appropriate label. The entire report, by that I mean the entire report, is blacked out (actually, whited-out;-). It took me less than one minute to scan the entire document; basically, scrolling down the white pages-one white page after another. Initially, I was not a bit surprised. Hey, I've been declared the most gagged and classified person in US history, after all- State Secrets Privilege invocation twice, gagging the entire Congress for the first (and only) time in US history, hundreds of pages of blacked out DOJ-IG report… So, as I said, I didn't find it a bit surprising. However, after the minute it took to go over these blank pages, I started clicking and scanning all the other files (interviews by the 9/11 Commission), and that's where I was truly surprised:
Despite some redactions here and there, and in a few cases fairly extensive redaction, there were no interviews where the entire interview (and the report on the interview) was blacked out in its entirety. Mine was the only one… Continue reading
By Nathan Diebenow
Thursday, December 9th, 2010
A Time Magazine 'Person of the Year' argues WikiLeaks serves the public good
A member of a group of former intelligence professionals that has rallied behind WikiLeaks suggested in a recent interview with Raw Story that the world would be a different and better place had the online secrets outlet come into existence years sooner.
"If there had been a mechanism like Wikileaks, 9/11 could have been prevented," Coleen Rowley, a former special agent/legal counsel at the FBI's Minneapolis division, told Raw Story in an exclusive interview.
Rowley and her colleague Bogdan Dzakovic, a special agent for the FAA's security division, explained this position in an op-ed published in the Los Angeles Times in October. However, they admit no claim to the original idea of an established pro-whistle-blower infrastructure. It's purely the US government's, she said.
"That's not even us," she told Raw Story. "That's not our personal opinion. We're really reciting the conclusions of the 9/11 Commission
that attributed the failures of 9/11 to a failure to share information not only inside agencies, not only between agencies, but with the public and the media."
"People have forgotten that that was the main conclusion of the 9/11 Commission," Rowley added.
"The 9/11 Commission was based on four other major investigation inquiries," she continued "One was called the Joint Intelligence Committee Inquiry. That started in Jan. 2002. It went on for well over a year. Then I testified to the Judiciary Committee, and… Continue reading
by Kevin Ryan
Foreign Policy Journal
Just after September 11th 2001, many governments began investigations into possible insider trading related to the terrorist attacks of that day. Such investigations were initiated by the governments of Belgium, Cyprus, France, Germany, Italy, Japan, Luxembourg, Monte Carlo, the Netherlands, Switzerland, the United States, and others. Although the investigators were clearly concerned about insider trading, and considerable evidence did exist, none of the investigations resulted in a single indictment. That's because the people identified as having been involved in the suspicious trades were seen as unlikely to have been associated with those alleged to have committed the 9/11 crimes.
This is an example of the circular logic often used by those who created the official explanations for 9/11. The reasoning goes like this: if we assume that we know who the perpetrators were (i.e. the popular version of "al Qaeda") and those who were involved in the trades did not appear to be connected to those assumed perpetrators, then insider trading did not occur.
That's basically what the 9/11 Commission told us. The Commission concluded that "exhaustive investigations" by the SEC and the FBI "uncovered no evidence that anyone with advance knowledge of the attacks profited through securities transactions." What they meant was that someone did profit through securities transactions but, based on the Commission's assumptions of guilt, those who profited were not associated with those who were guilty of conducting the attacks. In a footnote, the Commission report acknowledged "highly suspicious trading on its face," but said that this trading on United Airlines was traced back to "A single U.S.-based institutional investor with no conceivable ties to al Qaeda." 1
With respect to insider trading, or what is more technically called informed trading, the Commission report was itself suspect for several reasons.…Continue reading
An Open Letter to Terry Allen, Noam Chomsky, Alexander Cockburn, David Corn, Chris Hayes, George Monbiot, Matthew Rothschild, and Matt Taibbi1
by David Ray Griffin2
July 6, 2010
According to several left-leaning critics of the 9/11 Truth Movement, some of its central claims, especially about the destruction of the World Trade Center, show its members to be scientifically challenged. In the opinion of some of these critics, moreover, claims made by members of this movement are sometimes unscientific in the strongest possible sense, implying an acceptance of magic and miracles.
After documenting this charge in Part I of this essay, I show in Part II that the exact opposite is the case: that the official account of the destruction of the World Trade Center implies miracles (I give nine examples), and that the 9/11 Truth Movement, in developing an alternative hypothesis, has done so in line with the assumption that the laws of nature did not take a holiday on 9/11. In Part III, I ask these left-leaning critics some questions evoked by the fact that it is they, not members of the 9/11 Truth Movement, who have endorsed a conspiracy theory replete with miracle stories as well as other absurdities.
I. The Charge that 9/11 Truth Theories Rest on Unscientific, Even Magical, Beliefs
Several left-leaning critics of the 9/11 Truth Movement, besides showing contempt for its members, charge them with relying on claims that are contradicted by good science and, in some cases, reflect a belief… Continue reading
by Prof David Ray Griffin
Originally Published at Globalresearch.ca
In 2009, I published a little book entitled Osama bin Laden: Dead or Alive? 1 Much evidence, I showed, suggested that Osama bin Laden had died on or about December 13, 2001. (Although this book was ignored by the US press, it received major reviews in British newspapers, 2 and it even provided the basis for a BBC special. 3 ) Pointing out that the only evidence to the contrary consists of "messages from bin Laden" in the form of audiotapes and videotapes that have appeared since 2001, I devoted one chapter to an examination of the most important of these tapes, showing that none are demonstrably authentic and that some are almost certainly fakes.
In the chapter preceding that examination, I discussed two videotapes containing purported interviews of Osama bin Laden in the fall of 2001, when the issue was whether he had been responsible for the 9/11 attacks. I suggested that both of these tapes, in which bin Laden allegedly admitted his responsibility, were fakes. If they were, I pointed out, this fact would increase the likelihood that all of the "Osama bin Laden tapes" appearing in the following years – when the question of whether he was still alive was added to that of his responsibility for 9/11 – were also fakes.
The clearest example, I argued, was the most famous of the so-called bin Laden confession videos. Having allegedly been found in a private home in Jalalabad,… Continue reading
BoilingFrogsPost.com (Sibel Edmonds' Blog)
Recently released FBI documents prove the existence of highly sensitive National Security and criminal investigations of "Turkish Activities" in Chicago prior to September 11, 2001. These documents add further support to many of the allegations that former FBI translator Sibel Edmonds has claimed, in public and in Congress, since 2002. The documents were released under a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) request into an organization called the Turkish American Cultural Alliance (TACA), an organization repeatedly named by Ms. Edmonds as being complicit in the crimes that she became aware of when she was a translator at the FBI.
The documents released under FOIA are almost completely redacted, but they do support many of Edmonds' claims, including:
There were a number of very serious FBI investigations into "Turkish activity in Chicago" involving a number of targets, including TACA
These investigations were related to "National Security" among other things.
These investigations were regarded as so sensitive that no files were to be uploaded to FBI's computer system.
Congressional corruption was involved.
The FBI repeatedly conducted actual "physical surveillance" against Turkish and American targets.
Some of these investigations were shut down in 2001.
The documents comprise primarily of internal FBI ECs (Electronic Communications) between FBI offices. Most of the ECs are titled "Turkish American Cultural Association" although one from Feb 2000 is titled "Turkish Investigations in Chicago" which indicates that there were at least seven different pending investigations into Turkish activity in Chicago, and another later document from July 2001 indicates that there were at least ten investigations into TACA alone.…Continue reading
by James Corbett The Corbett Report
FBI whistleblower Sibel Edmonds joined The Corbett Report last Friday to discuss the deplorable state of whistleblower "protections" in the United States, including S.372 , a bill making its way through the Senate that would allow the FBI and other "national security" agencies to dismiss whistleblowers' claims without any form of oversight.
The details of Edmonds' experience blowing the whistle on the FBI–where, in the wake of 9/11, she worked in the Turkish language division of the Washington field office's translation department–are by now fairly well known amongst followers of the alternative media. The revelations that have emerged from her case have been explosive: that foreign operatives working within the translation department tried to recruit her for their operations; that there exists a nuclear spy ring aided and abetted by high ranking U.S. government officials selling America's nuclear secrets on the black market; that foreign language intelligence directly pertaining to 9/11 was deliberately withheld from FBI agents in the field; that Osama Bin Laden had an 'intimate relationship' with the United States government right up until 9/11. Perhaps the only thing more remarkable than the information she has revealed is that she ever got to reveal it at all.
The route by which Sibel Edmonds became the silent, gagged star of the 9/11 Truth movement and the poster child of the national security whistleblowers club is a… Continue reading
Posted at the History Commons Groups
by Kevin Fenton
We have found the famous "What Do I Do Now?" memo drafted by 9/11 Commission Executive Director Philip Zelikow on March 2, 2003. The memo advised staffers newly hired by the commission what they should do after starting work.
The memo was found by Erik at the National Archives and uploaded to the 9/11 Document Archive at Scribd.
Philip Shenon's The Commission highlighted the memo and one controversial section in particular. The section says:
Interactions with commissioners can be helpful to you and them. If you are contacted by a commissioner with questions, please contact Chris [Kojm, Zelikow's deputy] or me. Consulting with the Chair and Vice-Chair, we will be sure that the appropriate members of the Commission staff are responsive.
Shenon called this provision, channelling contacts between the staff and the commissioners through Zelikow and his deputy, "unusual" and "worrying to the staff." He added:
It occurred to several of the staff members, especially those with experience on other federal commissions, that Zelikow was trying to cut off their contact with the people they really worked for–the commissioners. Democratic commissioner Jamie Gorelick saw a copy of Zelikow's memo and was furious. Through an arrangement with her law firm, she intended to spend nearly half of her work week on commission business, and she was not going to have Zelikow telling the staff that they could not speak freely with her–that they had to wait to get his… Continue reading
November 25, 2009
[Story Updated 12/2/2009 at 911truth.org with reviwed material from www.911.wikileaks.org.]
From 3AM on Wednesday November 25, 2009, until 3AM the following day (US east coast time), WikiLeaks released half a million US national text pager intercepts. The intercepts cover a 24 hour period surrounding the September 11, 2001 attacks in New York and Washington.
The messages were broadcasted "live" to the global community — sychronized to the time of day they were sent. The first message was from 3AM September 11, 2001, five hours before the first attack, and the last, 24 hours later.
Text pagers are usually carried by persons operating in an official capacity. Messages in the archive range from Pentagon, FBI, FEMA and New York Police Department exchanges, to computers reporting faults at investment banks inside the World Trade Center.
The archive is a completely objective record of the defining moment of our time. We hope that its entrance into the historical record will lead to a nuanced understanding of how this event led to death, opportunism and war.
Twitter users should refer to the hashtag #911txts. We will give status updates at twitter.com/wikileaks.
Observations may be posted to posted here.
Please remember to protect and support our work.An index of messages released is available here.All pager messages released can be downloaded here as a single compressed text file. RELATED: 9/11 Text Messages Released: Wikileaks Publishes Intercepted Government Pager Texts As They Were Sent November 25, 2009 Government employees… Continue reading
9/11 Text Messages Released: Wikileaks Publishes Intercepted Government Pager Texts As They Were Sent
November 25, 2009
Government employees… Continue reading
November 4, 2009
Kevin Fenton
History Commons Groups
New details of a NORAD exercise called Amalgam Virgo 01-02 have been found in a document at the National Archives. The exercise involved a suicide pilot attacking a military installation in the US. It was run in early June 2001, just three months before 9/11.
The document was found in the 9/11 Commission's files at the National Archives by History Commons contributor Erik Larson (a.k.a. Paxvector) and uploaded to the 9/11 Document Archive at Scribd. Some information about the exercise was revealed at the History Commons Groups blog in June, when we publicised a commission document summarising a group of military exercises designed to help the military deal with suicide hijackings. However, the newly-found three-page scenario provides more detail.
In the scenario, a Haitian AIDS sufferer named Reginald Montrose forms an alliance with Columbian drug lords. This link-up is inspired by funding the Columbians have provided to treat AIDS patients in Haiti. Montrose plans to crash a Cessna into the headquarters of the Southeast Air Defense Sector (SEADS) in Florida. Its destruction will draw attention to the Haitians' plight and "allow the drug cartel to flood the US with flights of aircraft and to increase their market share in the US drug market."
The exercise starts with a call from a local airport manager to SEADS saying that they have found a suicide note in a suspicious car, and one of their small aircraft is missing. Another call then… Continue reading
Complete 911 Timeline
Open-Content investigative project managed by matt , Paul , KJF , blackmax
This is a news item pertaining to the Complete 911 Timeline investigative project, one of several grassroots investigations being hosted on the History Commons website. The data published as part of this investigation has been collected, organized, and published by members of the public who are registered users of this website.
Additions as of November 4, 2009 Source URL: http://www.historycommons.org/news.jsp?oid=140393703-933
One of the main focuses at the 9/11 Timeline recently has been the destruction of a tape of FAA flight controllers' recollections. The tape was made at the FAA's New York Center about an hour and a half after the attacks ended, despite worries about the procedure by a union official and the controllers. However, when New York Center forwarded evidence about the attacks to the FBI the next day, it did not provide the tape , and its existence was not reported to superiors . The controllers then prepared written statements without reviewing the tape , and a union official was concerned whether anyone had heard it. One of the controllers later asked to listen to the taped statement he had made, but his request was denied . When New York Center submitted a formal accident package, the tape was again absent . Although the Center had been told to retain 9/11 evidence , the tape was later destroyed. Following the tape's destruction, the manager who destroyed it was suspended , but did not face criminal charges.…Continue reading
October 23, 2009
The Real News Network
Former FBI agent Colleen Rowley discusses still unanswered questions about the lead up to 9/11. Coleen Rowley is a former FBI agent and whistleblower. Rowley jointly held the TIME "Person of the Year" award in 2002 with two other women credited as whistleblowers.
YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EnLMAzUIb5M&feature=player_embedded
by Jon Gold
This is dedicated to the 9/11 Truth Movement. – Jon
Before I begin, I would like to say that theorizing about what happened on 9/11, when you're not being given answers to your questions about that day by the people who SHOULD be able to do so, is PERFECTLY normal. As is suspecting that the reason these answers aren't being given is "sinister" in nature. As Ray McGovern said, "for people to dismiss these questioners as "conspiratorial advocates", or "conspiratorial theorists"… that's completely out of line because the… The questions remain because the President who should be able to answer them, WILL NOT." When you think about everything the previous Administration did in 8 years, the idea that they might not be giving us the answers we seek because of something "sinister" is not crazy. In fact, it's the most logical conclusion one can come to at this point. After seven plus years of obfuscation, spin, lies, and cover-ups regarding the 9/11 attacks, it is unavoidable to think that criminal complicity is the reason why.
That being said, we have not proven it beyond the shadow of doubt. We do not have documentation that shows they planned it. We do not have a signed confession from someone. We have pieces of the puzzle, and to most of us that have been doing this a long time, those pieces point to more than just Osama Bin Laden, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, and 19 hijackers. If we could… Continue reading


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Ladies who have to have (or have had) c-sections for medical reasons...
Why do you have to have a c-section?
Have you 'let go' of the idea of a vaginal birth?
Anyone planning on trying to have a vaginal birth anyway?
I have to have a c-section because of all kinds of crappy things and I'm deemed 'high risk'. I am less than a year post op from a myomectomy. Very fact that I'm pregnant increases my risk for a rupture by 75%. I have incisions/scar tissue that grow in pain as baby grows. We were told that it would take us 6 months to a year to concieve. Apparently I'm fertile myrtle because we were pregnant less than a week after 'trying'.
I didn't take the doctor seriously when he said I was having a c-section. My hubby and I gave him a look like 'whatever, we will see'. I know my doctor well but I felt like I was getting pushed into the c-section assembly line. But of course... he was right. I have been riddled with complications from week 10-14. One major issue, my water broke. Thankfully the leak sealed, we avoided infection, and the amniotic fluid was replenished.
My doctor is so concerned that he doesn't even want me to go into labor so even though I'm due on the 9th, he's planning to take baby boy on the 2nd.
I've finally let my desire of a home birth go but a part of me still wants to go into labor even if I have to have a c-section. I really want baby to have the opportunity to expel the fluid from his lungs naturally. Respiratory distress is really the only c-section complication I'm worried about. Ultimately, I just want to get him here safely, so I've excepted the c-section.
Well, that's our story. Anyone else in the same boat?


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Teslarians, what futuristic, hitech, game changer, ultra green, uber-cool, alto safety, mass production friendly, cost reducing, profit increasing features should Tesla's next generation, Gen III, vehicle have ? Also include Model C, S & X.
Whether large or small, simple or complex, technical or not, what are your ideas ?
To get started, here are some thoughts:
1) Put see through glass Tesla Shield
on hood made of painted glass. The
shield and letter T are left clear glass
and shows off the frunk by day. At
night a Hue light , with millions of
color variations can can be turn on
inside the frunk to light up the shield
and T during night driving.
2) Have detachable Household AC plug
battery packs near base of seats
powered by solar panels on roof.
3) Anti crash system stops car from
running into things. Qualifies for
insurance discount?
4) Retractable semi-opaque, tinted sun
visors controlled by button on
steering wheel similar to pulling down
a window shade electronically. It's
more functional because it allows the
driver to control visor on driver's
window, passenger window, and both
sides of the windshield. Could this be the world's best sun visor?
5) Have all wheels turn to 90 degrees,
great for parallel parking. Have car
capable of self parking.
6) Create @tesla/talk.car Internet
extension for car related services
only to compliment .com sites.
The .car extensions have voice only interface, with limited button pushing similar to a radio, no texting except through voice to text.
7) Shape the red tail lights as close
as possible to the Tesla T Logo.
Red led lights across bumper under
the plate spell out Tesla Motors EV
and highlight when brakes applied.
8) Equip Gen III with two sliding doors
or 4 regular doors. To create
easier access the opening door
includes 1/3 of the roof. Also press a
button in the door jamb to slide the
front seats forward.
A variation of this, have 1/3 strip of
roof retract toward the center of the
roof when you open the door.
9 ) NFD Near Field Discounts auction.
Type in lunch etc. 5 miles distance,
2hrs for exa and nearby Merchants
continuously update bids against
each other on giving you
discounts for lunch.
10) KeyPay/CarPal digitized keychain
can be used to pay electronically,
and receits are tagged& organized
into personal & business categories
for taxes. Syncs with smartphone
app and car consol to store info on the web.
11) Computerized self parking, both
back in and parallel .
For sure, get rid of the side view mirrors that cause drag, replacing with a heads up display projected along the upper part of the windshield
I'd like to see a great looking body finish that duals as a solar charger. When you are driving or just parked on the roadside, the surface area of otherwise painted surfaces should generate enough wattage during daylight to at least keep the CPU, music system, and displays happy...
The services idea is great. Connectivity for Apple/Droid users essential. Eventually work in high profile consumer deals with Apple, Google, Facebook to expand social reach...
I need a cheap all electric pick up truck for those weekly tips to Home Depot :-)
Whoops, modify my last wish. Better ergonomics says put heads up projected display along bottom edge of windshield to keep the drivers eye on the road ahead.
Even conventional tire-rim structures can generate electricity via their
spinning motion. there are only two components needed:
a. thin copper wire conductors inside the tire attached to the rim or perhaps properly
aligned thin copper strips embedded into the tire material itself
b. a horseshoe magnet positioned properly to let the copper wires pass through the
magnetic field between the S and N poles of the magnet
i am presently unsure of the difficulties and impacts of tire materials and how
they let magnetic fields penetrate (if at all), and certainly, the a/b system
above would have to be net energy positive and economical to be to be considered.
However, passing copper through a magnetic field creates a voltage and electron flow
and that is well known.
it is not delusional to think that the problems of C cannot be overcome. In fact,
I'd say its inevitable.
Thanks very much,
@jamesd567, driving and braking at the same time is not very smart thing. That's what you are proposing.
For your original list:
a) too expensive
b) motor is already about as efficient as it can get, and even if you manage to squeeze out a bit improvement that would give you maybe 301 miles instead of 300. Also expensive.
c) too expensive
d) perpetual motion machine. It doesn't exist.
e) Maybe doable. There are magnetic instead of hydraulic active suspensions that do just that.
f) Probably too expensive
g) Heat pumps and ordinary electric heaters + insulation is enough.
Caution and Warning
The "Perpetual Motion Machine Police (PMMP) ", patrol these threads, along with the Free Energy Machine Police, (FEMP).
Usually from what I see these are the scientific and mathematical career types. They will call you on your ideas if they don't shake out on principles & laws of mathematics, physics, or science. They love to run you through this gauntlet so be prepared.
Energy ideas seems to be one area where this occurs a lot. If your idea is not a true energy efficiency, the PMMP, FEMP police may do a Rodney King style arrest of your idea until you submit, remit & recant and follow the laws of science, physics & math, from which you may have unintentionally deviated.
Unfortunately, the PMMP& FEMP although very smart, good citizens, are sometimes loathe to find an understandable way to explain to you why your idea is a PMM, FEM, or not workable.
Some of these police criticize with reluctance, others relish the role & can't wait to pull out the police baton & start whacking away. Some police have definitely lost the subtle, high culture, art of discussion & inspiring social interaction.
So how do you know if your energy idea is a true efficiency improvement and not a Free Energy Machine (FEM), or Perpetual Motion Machine (PMM) ? Some thoughts.
1) Lets start with free energy, scientific purist will say energy is conserved, there is no truly free energy.
But, when's the last time you got a bill from mother nature for watering your lawn, for a cool breeze in the summer, or for heating up the earth from a frozen ice ball ? For all practical purposes these energies are free to us peons of the universe. Although the word free may be a bit of a misnomer.
Some examples of these so called free energies are renewables like solar, wind, tidal, geothermal etc.
However, to avoid controversy, let's not call it free energy. Rather let's call it OPE, Other Peoples' Energy, with mother nature's renewables being just one example, (I'm personifying mother nature to qualify as an OPE).
So does Your Energy Idea Use OPE (Other Peoples' Energy) ? That's good ! The energy is free to you to use in a sense, although there may be cost to access the energy , like building a hydro-electric plant or a sail for a boat.
It's a little like using OPM (Other Peoples' Money) in bussiness to make more money for you.
A sail boat is a good example of OPE and the wind energy is free to use. But you incur the access cost of building the sail to power the boat. As long as you have OPE wind, there's no cost to power/move the boat.
But if the wind dies down, you may want to switch to a backup motor.
Now the energy has both an access cost , (the cost of the motor), and a cost of using the energy, fuel to run the motor to move the boat. It now cost money to move the boat. Not free, not as energy profitable, but at least it works at a reasonable/bearable price.
A couple more scenarios.
What if you had a giant motorized fan on board for when the wind died down ? Is that free OPE ? Would it even work ?
Remember science class "For every action, there is an equal an opposite reaction." And is generating your own wind with a gas motor fan accessing free wind energy like the sail would do?
Next lets take the example of water energy coming over Niagra Falls which is OPE free, courtesy of mother nature, and collected by a hydro-electric plant. In this case you have a cost of access; but, the energy itself is free.
Mother nature does not send the power plant a bill for evaporating water in the lowlands and condensing it in the higher altitude, creating the river and the riverfalls for the power plant.
However, if man first has to pump water up to the top of a dry hill, creating a manmade waterfall, then any energy generated by a hydro-electric plant would not be free, plus you still have the access cost of the power plant.
Kinda like paying yourself $20 to cut your own grass, do you really have $20 more in your wallet ?
To sum up this point, OPE free energy from nature ideas are not yet very common, and the PMMP FEMP want to keep it unadulterated from false, sacrilegious claims. And if you present a false claim breaking a scientific law, you very well could be Kinged, Rodney style.
2) Does your energy idea Recapture Used Energy ? Does your energy idea create synergies, multitask, or in some way increase energy efficiency ? Or does it Use More Energy to implement than practical ?
Think of two people walking down the street at night. They have two different light energy sources to keep from getting run over from a car
One person has a lever powered flashlight he powers manually by pressing and releasing the lever. T
he other person has the same lever powered light built into the heel of his shoes that generates power and shoe lights as he walks.
In both cases the energy created is without cost, and in each case there is an energy access costs: a flashlight or a more expensive light generating shoes.
But which night walker is more efficient, Recapturing or Multitasking Used Energy to generate light without creating the need for more (body) energy? Which walker is Using Less body Energy to create the night light ?
Finally having said all that, the police are not always right. Once in a while an OPE or better energy efficiency idea can make it through the police gauntlet. Just warning you, so be prepared, maybe a good discussion will be the result !
Just remember there are many ways for the less scientific to develop their ideas and argument through googling , youtubing, studying critical reasoning , creativity, problem solving, etc.
Enjoy your discussions & watch out for the police !
I would like to be able to afford to buy it.
Seriously, I've been following Tesla corp since I first heard of the concept - long before there were even roadsters to buy - and I've kept getting the newsletters because back then they mentioned after they had become successful making their super luxury sports car, then their luxury car, they'd start producing a car the rest of us could buy.
I want that car. I've wanted that car for years. I don't actually care what bells and whistles are included as long as I can drive where I need to go (100+ mi per charge) and actually afford to buy it.
I don't know what your affordable price point is, but I think help is on the way. The new money from the latest stock offering is providing needed support for a variety of needs including the mass market, affordably priced, EV.
Another new development that may also help is the just announced battery swap service. A lot of people think these swap stations are at risk of obsolescence when 500 mile & 1000 mile batteries come out at the same or higher battery price.
However instead of going obsolete, I think Tesla could choose to turn swap stations into battery lease stations.
And if Tesla chooses a used battery lease option, the monthly battery lease payments could be less than you pay for gas. Plus leasing the battery lowers the car purchase price, and a used battery lease option would lower the payments, (car payment & battery payment ), the most.
So say the Gen III price comes in at $ 35,000. Take off $7500 for the Federal tax break. And then take off $10,000 for the used battery lease option. This brings your GenIII price to $ 17,500. I believe that's less cost than the ridiculously small smart car.
The best part is nobody has to know your driving a new car with a used battery, no one sees it.
Can you afford $17,500 for a GenIII Tesla with a used battery lease lower than typical gas payments ? Then you might like the used battery leasing idea.
If not consider buying the GenIII car used with used battery leasing as well. That should get you down to about $8,750. For a used GenIII. (Leasing should make the used GenIII cars less cost upfront as ).
As a bonus for used battery lease purchasers, maybe Tesla can give them 3 or 4 free battery swaps for that yearly long trip or two.
Recapitulation of Used Battery Leasing Benifits
1) Keeps the battery swapping stations from becoming obsolete by adding used battery lease swapping service.
2) It lowers the price of BOTH used and new cars.
3) Lowering cost by offering Used battery leasing will increase sales of GenIII.
4) This in turn drives stock to $300 a share
5) This allows another another stock sale raising several billion dollars.
6) Elon now has the funds to build a second car making plant which EM designs himself, from the ground up, to be the biggest and most efficient car making plant in the world.
7) This drives the stock to over $1000 a share, funding another stock sale, raising billions more capital expenditure funds.
The battery lease option is not on. It requires TM to own (and capitalize) the entire battery fleet. Huge capex, and exposure to depreciation, etc. As presently structured, it will function like a de facto exchange service, though.
Better interior! See mercedes AMG line as the best interiors I have ever seen. Much better than the standard boring benz stuff. AMG has the perfect combionation of modern, hi tech and luxury.... Great template to steal ideas from, the amg line was done by some famous designer. In black with all the brushed metal, they look amazing!
Time is short. If you haven't already done so, don't forget to sign:
"White Petition To Allow Direct Tesla EV Sales In All 50 States".
And email link to your interested contacts list. Deadline coming up soon.
I like the rich leather look everywhere, especially on the steering wheel.
To save 100 % of the capex expense, have only "No CapEx USED Battery Leases", from when people swap out and upgrade to higher capacity batteries. EM has already stated he will only charge you the difference if you keep a better milage battery after a swap. That means the used battery is not paid for.
Tesla execs have already hinted at a 500 mile battery, or at least a big improvement. Lots of people will want to upgrade their battery after swaps.
After a few years, this could generate 100,000s of used batteries piling up in Tesla storage facilities. Rather than write off these batteries as a business expense or loss, as you would have, a lease program could be much more profitable and beneficial overall.
The " No CapEx Used Battery Lease Program" could start out slow and small and gradually expand more & more as used batteries become available.
No CapEx Used Batteries also will only need to be swapped out every 1-4 years or so. Where a swap station is not nearby, Tesla Rangers could do the swaps manually if needed as a road call and throw in some other maintenance checks as part of the No CapEx Used Battery lease program.
This manual Ranger backup swapping would greatly reduce the need for storage faculties or swap stations. About 20 swap/and-or/storage centers should give adequate national coverage. So there would be no need for massive additional expenditures except for maybe 10 storage only facilities for Ranger manual swap access and that cost could be built into the lease contract.
And don't forget Tesla's computerized monitoring and tracking of data is not "half-vast" ; but fully capable, well thought out, way above the competition, and always improving.
Because of this, Tesla would probably know before you do when your lease battery needs swapped out and will have their batteries logistics well managed & prepositioned, even sending lease swap time reminders to your cell phone and/or car.
I know there are a lot of EV anxieties out there, range anxiety being just one. But I see dozens if not hundreds more, and new ones poping up all the time like this High CapEx Lease Anxiety. So Brian I hope this "No CapEx USED Battery Lease" option helps assuage your CapEx anxiety.
Sounds good, except all the retired batteries are going to form Solar City buffer/storage at Supercharger sites everywhere.
Have a look at http://seekingalpha.com/article/1463661-on-elon-musk-and-tesla-motors-th... .
One of the points Jeff Cox makes (he's a founder/exec of a lithium-ion based company) is that the TM batteries have a projected cycle life of 3,000, which translates into 750K miles or 53 years of 12K mile driving. !!
The whole (massive) deflection into battery leasing etc. is going to be by-passed, finessed by the technical and business model brilliance he outlines.
Could the " Tesla Three Wing EV Van " be in future production within 10 years ? Possibly at a second factory ?
Basically its a van with three Falcon Wing Doors. Two on each side and one for the tailgate !
Similar sales pitch as MX, easier cargo loading/unloading and/or seating access in tight spaces.
But then, it may look more like a spider than a falcon with all three doors up. The Spider Van ?
Designers-future designers/photoshop lovers time to fire up the software.
Could this have a lot of commercial or business appeal ? I think it's within the realm of possibilities.
Here's another way EVs may reduce your cost. An experimental pilot program where the utility sends your EV an Internet signal to buffer energy back into the grid. (See final paragraphs in the link ).
So I imagine its flexible, you could set the % amount of your car battery your willing to buffer back. If you have a 200 mile Tesla EV, & never use more than 75 miles of charge, you could set the battery to let the utility buffer back a 100 miles worth back to the grid and still have a 125 driving miles of charge. So your battery, weather new or used lease would help pay for itself.
Since Tesla's batteries are bigger, they would earn more money for the owner buffering charge back to the grid.
See also for complete description:
Works even better if you have home solar panels and electric backup home storage packs, like the SCTY/TSLA system in the link below.
Savings could be in the thousands per year.
The only thing gen 3 needs is to be cheaper while still having 200 mile range and being supercharger capable.
The only downside will be all the Model S and X owners whining about Gen 3 owners hogging the superchargers. The best way for Tesla to avoid this problem as much as possible is to continue to build superchargers far away from where people live or shop regularly, to avoid people using them for regular charging or parking.
You definitely have a point there Skotty, especially when the Tesla EVs on the road get up into the millions. What's to stop people from supercharging charging up on their way home after work and getting in a little shopping ?
Perhaps there could be a Technological solution ? Could it be possible to computer set the cars not to allow supercharging fueling within 35 miles of your home ?
That still allows retailers to offer free charging with slower systems.
Who knows some day superchargers may be so numerous, (10,000+), and well financed, it won't matter.
I would like tesla to use the model s frame for the gen111 if they do half the car is already done saving a ton of money on engineering costs. motor trend just did the first drive on the i3 and said the electric had a 118" wheelbase. make the gen 111 176" long, that's about 20" longer than the i3 at 157.4" and will give the tesla design team about the same length as the 3 series, c class, and a 4 to make a great looking auto.
For clarification, feel free to chime in. Are we officially calling the Gen III platform "Model E" or "Platform E" or "Economy" something, or something else involving an E ? Didn't Tesla trademark something with an E in it ? What are you calling Gen III ?
Superchargers/swappers are vastly more important than anything else other than of course presenting a nice car to buy in the first place.
Large volume sales of an affordable model will require having a far better charging/swapping infrastructure than what is now promised.
Free charging is not necessary. As long as it is far less expensive than gas people will gladly pay. Profitable charging would ensure that there are stations everywhere.
TM doesn't want the hassle of collecting. Much easier to let Solar City do its thing.
I would also like it to sit up and beg. Come on people be realistic!
Maybe Elon can come up with a phone app that handles supercharger fees for whoever, GenIII, platform E, partner manufacturer's EV cars etc. Hmmm... MK does do programming...PayPal ...
In any event, either way I agree more superchargers will be needed over time as Tesla's production ramps up into much higher numbers.
Wow! Some pretty creative thinking went into the posts on this thread...
One year later, how have your thoughts changed?
Alright, now some serious stuff:
1) Make the chargers programmable so that they can support future types of battery types. Then you will not need to change out the chargers when new batteries become available, at least for one generation.
2) Make the chargers high enough capacity to allow for future higher current charging or at least modular so the power devices can be changed out easily and cheaply.
3)new battery technolgies that are retrofittable, enabling faster charging and longer range. Batteries that perform as well at cold temperqtures as hot.
One should understand that each battery technology has unique charging requirements.
I'm coming very late to the game, but I am very interested in a Tesla as my next vehicle. The perfect timing for me will be in 2 to 3 years with the age of my children and payments/age of my current vehicle. I did not read through the entire thread before posting my reply, so if I'm duplicating something, that means more than one of us has the same idea. Please keep in mind that any comments I'm making are from things I've looked at on the internet and experienced from a 20 minute test drive.
I'm hooked. I had a chance to drive a Saab once in 1986 - I went on to own 4, but eventually left the brand; the quality suffered greatly when a US automaker became part owner.
I had the same thing happen when I test drove a Tesla 4 days ago. I now want one.
Pricing (unless I win the lottery) will keep me out of an S, but a III is really possible.
- Don't like the clear frunk idea - security risk.
- Spare tire is important as well as all-season radials. (I live in Minnesota - we're getting over a foot of snow today)
- Would love to see a fold-down console/cup holders for the back seat.
- Keep as many of the components the same - reduces inventories and R&D costs, hopefully keeping the cost of the vehicle down
- Heated wipers are a good idea, but what about heating the windshield spray are both good ideas, especially when windows are ice-coated.
- The area where the wipers sit when they are at rest - having a defroster similar to the back window in that location will help keep the wipers clear, again important during sleet/snow precipitation
- One feature my first Saab had that I really liked was the doors wrapped around the door sill - no dirty stripes on your pant legs from getting into the car
- I know you can use a smartphone app to set the internal temp of the car - will it also allow you to turn on the front and rear defrosters?
- Gull wing doors, while the look cool, might not be practical in snowy areas - snow falling into the car and onto the seats makes for a wet commute.
- Citizen watches have developed their eco-drive watches, which uses light power that comes through the face of the watch to charge the battery. Much smaller batteries and applications, but it's something that might help gain an extra mile or two.
- I love the design of the car, but has there been the thought of a wagon instead of hatch back?
- The rear window seems small - a bit more visibility there would be great.
I'd love to provide input as part of a consumer panel that utilizes real people from various parts of the country. Things that Minnesotan's need might not occur to others; conversely things important to Californian's might not occur to someone from Minnesota.
I am ready for model lll, just give me a nice looking car with super range. Limit the options to reduce prices and problems and I will be very happy.
An obvious upgrade would be photo-voltaic panels in sun-exposed parts of the car, either internal, external, or both. Park your car in the sunlight to auto-charge the battery.
spirit and tom;
Often suggested (PV on/in the car). Horrible waste of money. The quantities don't scale. Even in the tropics parked all day in the sun, the best case.
My top 15 in no particular order:
1. Discounted SolarCity PV panels + Tesla battery backup + charger bundle
2. Safety features that beat Volvo
3. Performance that beats the BMW 4 Series
4. Looks that beat the Mercedes Benz C-Class
5. All wheel drive that beats Audi Quattro
6. Kickass sound system with Bluetooth
7. No fog windows & mirrors, heated/cooled seats/steering wheel, auto climate control
8. At least 250 mile range
9. Built-in emergency home backup generator
10. Smartphone & LTE/wifi integration
11. Parking spot finder
12. Artificial intelligence navigator to help avoid traffic
13. 110v outlets
14. Siri-like voice activation system to control various car features
15. Paint job that requires no detailing yet always looks brand new (yeah I wish!)
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|My first year gardening and all is not well. We purchased a garden bed and planted a couple zucchini plants and a couple tomato plants. Too look at the garden from a distance- it looks healthy. But both the tomaotos and zucchini are rotting.
Any hope to still rescue these plants? We bought top soil and added some miracle grow to it when we first planted it.
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|Clarification please... Do you mean the plants are rotting or the fruit.
Assuming this is a raised bed...
- Posted by missingtheobvious Blue Ridge 7a (My Page) on Sun, Jun 17, 12 at 0:48
|Are the tomato plants staked or supported in any way, or are the branches just lying on the ground?
Did you mulch around the plants?
Have you had any insect problems?
If possible, photos would be helpful.
|Linda, what do you mean by purchasing a garden bed? Also, what do you mean by adding miracle grow to it? Your post is way to vague to know what you did to be of help. We all do want you to be successful so a little more information would help.
- Posted by sportsmom12 KY (My Page) on Sun, Jun 17, 12 at 13:18
|1. There is an Amish farm that made raised beds ( image attached- I hope)
2. I just tore up 1 of the zucchani plants because the zucchini was rotting
3. I did not put mulch in the bed.
4. Miracle grow is the name of a fertalizer we bought at our local garden place
5. I water the bed once a day for a few minutes ( all over)
Thanks for any help- never gardened before
|Agree that much more information is needed including the size of this purchased bed that was filled with "topsoil".
Based on the info so far it sounds like there were several guaranteed failures built in from the beginning.
It is likely too late to save the existing plants but with some work a good fall garden may still be possible.
|First that bed needs almost 3x the amount of soil it currently contains. Maybe 4x as much. They should be filled up to just a couple of inches below the top brim.
Second "topsoil" is never used in containers such as that. It compacts, doesn't drain at all well and drowns the roots plus it contains all sorts of potentially harmful elements depending on the quality. It needs to be filled with a soil-less potting mix - many brands available - plus lots of compost of some type. Compost and potting mix are both available in large bags from nurseries and even the big box stores. Determine the cubic feet of the box to determine how many bags you will need to buy and then, if you con't remove that topsoil, mix the new stuff in with it very, very well.
Third, read the directions on the Miracle Grow. It is supposed to be mixed in water and used to water plants, not mixed in with soil. Instead buy a bag of a good granular fertilizer - one that is not diluted with water - and mix the label recommended amounts in with all the potting mix. They will be rated with numbers such as 10-10-10 or 13-13-13 or similar.
Fourth, do not water daily. Water the bed well until water drains out the bottom (I assume it has holes for drainage, if not it sure should have), then plant the plants, then you water only as the plants need it, approximately every 3-4 days and you water deep, not briefly.
Hope this helps.
- Posted by missingtheobvious Blue Ridge 7a (My Page) on Sun, Jun 17, 12 at 13:52
|We do still need to know:
= Do you mean the plants are rotting or the fruit? Please give details or better yet, post a close-up photo which shows the rot.
= Did you put any type of weed barrier down before putting your soil in?
= Have you had any insect problems?
= What kind of Miracle Grow was it? There are several different kinds. How did you add it: dry mixed in the soil, mixed with water and used to wet the soil at the base of each plant, etc.?
= When you purchased the plants, were they in "peat pots," and did you plant the entire pot?
= When you stick your finger several inches down in the soil, how wet or dry is it??
- Posted by sportsmom12 KY (My Page) on Sun, Jun 17, 12 at 15:05
|Wow. Did I learn a lesson. I will be more prepared next year. I was off to such a good start as this bed comes with a cover so got an early Thanks for all your advise. Guess I will go to farmers market this year
|looks like a nice planter (raised bed).
Digdirt is entirely correct on all counts except maybe the watering, that totally depends on what potting mix and type of plants and how big they are in the bed, how hot it is etc.
If it is good draining mix in a very good draining planter then you could easily water it every day.
Buy some good "Potting Mix" not top soil, can amend it with some large perlite and pine bark to get it to drain better.
FILL that planter to within an inch of the top, make sure there are "several" drainage holes in the bottom.
It is likely that if you just had that planter full of dirt, even heavy top soil that the plants may have at least not rotted. You have heavy soil, probably in a not so well draining container, with only that tiny amount of soil the roots are probably sitting in water in the "perched water" in bottom few inches of soil.
First 2nd and 3rd thing you gotta do is Drainage drainage drainage.
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