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This is amazing! I love hearing all about people on the DCP! Cannot wait to you write some more!!
I have never heard about anyone in the DCP in costuming! Is it really fun? Do you help make cast member costumes or do you help out the princesses with their dresses?
So excited for more! Hope you are having an amazing time!!
P.S Im disney_frankie following you on twitter and instagram!
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Seriously Alicia, you are making me SO excited to do the DCP! I cant WAIT for the day when I can do it.
The whole check in process sounds totally nuts and so many lines to go in but of course it is totally worth it I can tell!
I am DYING to read more.
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sounds like an exhausting day! Cant wait to see what room you got. -Amanda
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Alicia, as a cast member do u get free entrance to the parks whenever? Like could you go to MNSSHP if you wanted?
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Had to catch up with this thread after we returned from our trip. I can't wait to hear more about your apartment and learning about the "Disney way".
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How exciting!! I always wondered what the Disney Housing was like, so it was nice to get a little information on each of the different ones. It's just so great to get to read along with you on your journey, Thanks!
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I haven't really been to Vista, currently all the housing events go on at Chatham and a part of me would love to have stayed there but for only $1 difference we decided to go all out lol.
I can't imagine having gone through all of those stops at Vista!!! I have no idea where they would have put everyone. Maybe it was different because they use to have every fill out their information packets at home and bring them with you, they don't do that anymore, we had to fill everything out electronically and then they had to check it with us in person.
You are going to be here so sooooooon!!! Thanks for reading along
Yay, thanks for reading a long and I am so glad you are enjoying it. I figure if there is anyone out there looking to do the program this will be a huge help. Considering I felt completely lost coming into it, this will at least give everyone a basic idea of what it's like/about.
It's AMAZING. the first position I was trained in was so slow and kind of terrible BUT two weeks ago I started training on day parade and basically now I just help the princesses get dressed all day. IT'S PERFECT!!! I really lucked out getting into entertainment costuming. I know people who got stuck in operational costuming which is basically a giant dry cleaners where they do the attractions and restaurants laundry.
It's the best time ever, I couldn't be happier that I moved down here when I did. It's absolutely amazing.
Get excited Meg because it will literally be the best experience of your life!!!
It was complet chaos, which is most likely why they give you the following day off haha
It was so exhausting but we were pushing through on adrenaline all day!!!
I do get free entrances to all the parks and for right now water parks!!! However I do not get free specialty events admission, on select days we get discounts but anything outside park hours we have to pay for. Also, we weren't allowed to participate in extra magic hours.
I hope you had a wonderful get away!!! More about the apartment REALLY SOON. Thanks as always for follwoing along
You will soon find out all about Disney housing!!! Thanks for reading along, I'm glad that you are enjoying and following along with my adventure
Trip Reports:
Cray Eights Take on the World Spoiled Silly (Aug '11) We loved it so much WE HAD TO GO BACK!!! A Spontaneous Spring Break Trip (March '12)
WARNING: YOLO 2012 Do NOT try this at Home!!! Were Professionals (May '12) A Very BIG Move for One Little Girl: A DCP Diary
In every job that must be done there is an element of fun!!! DCP Live Report
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The Race Is On!!!
Vooooooooom, we were off in a flash. I really had no idea where my other roommates were in relation to me in the process. I had seen them for seconds at a time while filtering through the casting building, but at this moment I was unaware of if they had gotten back to the hotel yet or worse!!! If they had been at the apartment moving in already.
We literally had no idea where we were going. Disney doesn't give you an address or anything. Basically once you leave Vista you are on your own. We tried using siri on Ryan's phone but she was NO HELP. Luckily there were signs around that actually said Patterson Court/Chatam Square. It was about a 5-minute drive all in all.
We slowly pulled in, thank goodness the first day you get a free pass and don't have to sign anyone in because that would have been a pain!!! We looked for our buildings I am in 10 and Ryan is in 11, perfect!!! We are basically neighbors so that's a plus. We each grabbed one small item from the car, just big enough to take in and throw on a bed to claim our territory. I said goodbye to Ryan for two seconds while we rushed off to my apartment to see what was up.
They are really very spacious, fully furnished and supplied with dishes (for the most part). Decent size kitchen and a nice size living room. How ever the rooms are not all created equal. Here is a tip for future DCP participants: above the doors in very faint white paint (on the cream walls) there is a number about each room. The lower the number the bigger the room. #1 is right off the living room and has THE MOST floor space, the downside is as I said before it's right off the main living area so if you are trying to go to sleep and your roommates are watching tv or skyping until 3am it's going to get kind of annoying if you are a light sleeper. Rooms #2 and #3 are right on top of each other and are basically the same size. All have their own bathrooms and decent size closets.
Now here was my dilemma, do I take room #1? It has the most space and I did after all get here first. BUT do I really want everyone to be mad at me for taking the biggest room? I could just go with room #2 and be great friends with room #3 because they literally might as well just be sharing a room. After looking at the lay out of all the rooms I decided to go with #1. My mother said if you wouldn't have picked that one I would have regretted driving all the way down here!!! Haha
So I called Ryan and he was having the same dilemma. One or Two?! I told him I went with one and he did the same. We took the rest of our stuff out of the car, dragged it up the three flights of stairs, did I mention we ended up on the third floor? It was a pain on move in day but ended up being a blessing in disguise. Ryan ended up on the first floor, the apartment above him is leaking into his and the people upstairs sound like elephants apparently. Once the car was unloaded we went back to the Holiday Inn to get the rest of our stuff and check out of the hotel.
We got back just as everyone else in my apartment was moving their stuff in, we dropped mine and ran so that Hattie would have enough space to move all her stuff in. While we waited we helped Ryan bring all his stuff into his room.
Once Ryan was settled in we went back over to my room to get my stuff in order. It was basically freshman year of college all over again. Meeting every one's parents. Trying to claim space for your stuff without getting in anyone else's way and finding the exact right spot for everything.
I first things first I put my bed up on my bed risers. I literally have a princess bed!!! I was just in Ryan's room the other day skyping some friends from school and his roommate doesn't have bed risers it was so funny to see. Anyways thank goodness Hattie has the same height ones as I do because our room would be looking a little funny of she didn't.
Anyways we got most of my stuff settled in and then everyone went out to do family things/get food/go grocery shopping. Except Hattie who was still moving her stuff in. She literally brought EVERYHING with her, thank goodness I grabbed us the big room or else we wouldn't fit. To give her parents and her some room Ma, Pa and I went out to dinner. We ended up going to Giordano's pizza, for those of you who don't know it's a place that serves deep dish Chicago style pizza which just so happens to be my FAVORITE. The only downside, I hadn't eaten anything substantial in two day, I was starving and a pizza that size takes a long time to cook. Once the pizza got there though I forgot how hungry I was after one slice. SO BIG. I wish I had taken pictures of it but I wasn't thinking.
From there my mother had to decide if she wanted to stay another night or if she wanted to drive home now. They opted to wait until the next afternoon. We drove to a Marriot down the street, kind of an in between from where we stayed the night before and where I was living now. She went in and asked if they had any rooms at the price they had advertised on the website and they did!!! She checked in and they went to the pool while I passed out for a few hours in their bed.
Later that night they drove me back to the apartment and we said our goodbyes for the night. When I got back I was the only one there so I decided to take a few pictures.
This is the view of the living room from mine and Hattie's room
In this picture upper left corner are the doors to room #2 and #3 room two is on the left the door next to it is a locked utility closet and room # three you can see beucase it right on the wall behind the chair. So like I said before rooms #2 and #3 are right on top of one another.
The view of the dinning room/kitchen. My room would be right off to the right
Like this…
the kitchen is a pretty decent size for an apartment, in my opinion anyways
It's got your basic, oven/stove, microwave, fridge, and even a dishwasher!!! The only thing they don't really supply you with is a toaster which is a pain.
Basically this is the view of the entire place. Not to big but it's certainly enough space for all of us seeing how we all haven't been here at one time since the day we moved in or when we are sleeping.
Now to go into my room. Clearly I am the bed on the left with all the tangled stuff that you might remember from my PTR. Also I am a lefty so I always pick the left. As you can see I lucked out, Hattie loves Disney and being young too so we have a completely Disney decked out bedroom she has Minnie mouse bedding and I have Rapunzel but we both bonded over the fact that we wanted the Ariel bedding but the store didn't have it. We actually both bought them from the same department store!!!
close up on just my side
At first I was terrified to sit on my bed. I thought it was going to collapse but I am happy to say that the bed risers are going strong and were the perfect solution for storing my GIANT suit case
Each room has one mirror and dresser so everyone gets three drawers (that are too small to fit anything in!!!). I knew this ahead of time from having friends who did the program so I planned accordingly. I brought down plastic drawers and TONS of organizational closet things. Most of my roommates found out once they got here and ended up purchasing everything I had brought with me. That being said you will be able to find stuff down here, it's up to you whether you want to bring it or not. Remember: there will be TONS of other people moving in on the same day and when you move it it's around back to school time so you might not have the best choices in stores here.
The bathroom is split up so that the sink is outside, in between the closet and the room with the toilet/shower.
Hattie's aunt was kind enough to buy her all the Disney bathroom stuff we would need: Shower curtain (the bathroom comes with a clear shower curtain liner), bath mat and trash can (as I said before we have THE Disney room)
Continue to Part 2
Trip Reports:
Cray Eights Take on the World Spoiled Silly (Aug '11) We loved it so much WE HAD TO GO BACK!!! A Spontaneous Spring Break Trip (March '12)
WARNING: YOLO 2012 Do NOT try this at Home!!! Were Professionals (May '12) A Very BIG Move for One Little Girl: A DCP Diary
In every job that must be done there is an element of fun!!! DCP Live Report
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Apartment Tour Continued
Then we have our GIANT closet (the other two rooms have closest but they are no where near as big so get to your apartment EARLY!!!)
Hatties side is kind of an explosion because as I said earlier she brought everything with her. Her family drove down and the car was packed inside and out.
The rooms are also equipped with two lockers, one for each roommate to house your valuables. I decided to put the start of my Disney magnet collection on mine (I get a new magnet for each trip now, I started that as you can tell two trips ago haha I wanted to get one each time with the year on it so I can always remember the years I went to Disney because all of my trips have run together and I cant remember any more haha)
My side with all my pink organizational things. The slim hangers are PERFECT for anyone who was wondering, they are such a space saver and they just hang things very nicely specifically the ones I bought because they have rubber grips that dont let anything slide off of them. The sweater organizer, which I use for t-shirts was a HUGE help too. Like I said before there isnt much drawer space and this is compact and makes good use of the closet space. The bins is where I put my overflow of food as you can see. The pantry is not big at all, there isnt even enough room for everyone to have their own shelf so my food is just split up.
back out to the bedroom here is a close up picture of my beautiful bedding, I find I love the way it looks when its made so its always tidy
its just so darn perfect!!! And I dont even care that it makes me look like a five year old.
My side of the room, each person also gets a nightstand and a bulletin board. My board has begun to take over the entire wall. BUT here is another tip, leave your posters at home. The housing providers have very strict rules, there can be nothing on the wall except that bulletin board, so whatever you can fit on there are the only decorations you can have in your entire room. No sticky back, no picture frames and no easy off command strips are allowed. You can try to hang things but they have inspections/surprise inspections so I am too scarred to even try. I dont want to get termed for something so stupid.
This is a close up of my friendship wall, all the people who mean the most to me made it to Florida with me. Its a fabulous thing to do, print out pictures and bring them with you!!! It can get kind of lonely in the first few days and its nice to be able to look and see all the faces of those you love and who support you.
Like I said before, my board is definitely being used to its maximum potential I have EVERYTHING up there, including my ever growing collection of pins. Hattie and I call them our official pin trading boards and joke about how we are going to start allowing guest to come and trade with us, we are legit.
All my friends who made the trip. Pluto from mine and Andys trip, flounder from Disney on ice and loserface my present from Andy on our first Christmas together way back when.
My nightstand which is also Disney-fied
The light that you see is PERFECT. I actually bought it at Walmart on day two (where it was the last one because of all the moves ins and back to schoolers) but thats beside the point. It had an outlet on it which is perfect because all the outlets are placed in really stupid locations!!! I wouldnt have a place to charge my phone any where near my bed if it wasnt for this. So if you are planning to come down extension cords and surge protectors are a must!!!
Our room and view once we got it all set up. If you look on Hatties night stand you will see what looks like balloons, its actually her lamp and I am obsessed with it!!! Its from her room when she was a baby and is Mickey and Pluto holding onto balloons, its perfect.
Ok so there are just a few more things to show you, off the living room, closer to rooms #2 and #3 there is a patio
Chelseys family was kind enough to buy us patio furniture (which I guess we arent technically suppose to have) although we hardly ever go out there, mainly because we are all really busy and also because its nasty and could use a good power washing.
This is the view from our patio and what all the buildings in Patterson look like
Just to the left of our building is the entrance to the complex its basically a three second walk, we really lucked out!!! There are some buildings that seem very secluded and far away.
The first night was no where near as awkward as I thought it would be, thank goodness we had all talked online for months before hand because we were all just really comfortable around one another. We talked about how our day was and our work schedule, and what our costumes would be. The thing is none of us had all the same information. I had my work schedule for the first full week but some people only had the first day or two. The schedules include: traditions times, starting days, classes, and training day. We all wondered what the things meant, literally Disney gives you no explanations about anything.
I also knew my costume but others didnt. At this point none of us still knew exactly where we would be working which was the biggest pain of all. I just felt very in the dark, everyone at home was asking what I would be doing and I still had no idea, I went through basically they entire first week like that, which was unfortunate. I did however know that this would be my costume.
No one else had any ideas of what they would be wearing so they were all a little jealous.
That about wraps up my first full day in Florida. We had the following day off to get settled in and then the follwing day we would have traditions!!! The true welcome to the Walt Disney Company. AHHHHHHHHHH
Tune In Next Time!!!
Trip Reports:
Cray Eights Take on the World Spoiled Silly (Aug '11) We loved it so much WE HAD TO GO BACK!!! A Spontaneous Spring Break Trip (March '12)
WARNING: YOLO 2012 Do NOT try this at Home!!! Were Professionals (May '12) A Very BIG Move for One Little Girl: A DCP Diary
In every job that must be done there is an element of fun!!! DCP Live Report
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Your apartment looks really nice! And I love how you Disney-fied your room. It looks awesome!
And I LOVE your bathroom.
Thats kind of cool they have lockers in your closets for your valuables. And I HAVE to ask. Where did you get that Mickey Mouse Club magnet?!
Wow, I didnt realize they were that strict about having stuff on your walls.
SO excited to hear about traditions!!!!
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Your Disneyfied room looks awesome! I can't wait to hear about Traditions.
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Hey Alicia!! I'm joining in too! Can't wait to go back and read everything. I'll be applying for Fall 2013 in January. So excited!
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Joining!! I wish I had done the college program! So now I'm mentioning it to my kids all the time so THEY will do it when they are old enough!
BTW, after college, I traveled for my sorority for a year and left my boyfriend at home...so reading your story makes me relive the sadness of leaving him, but the excitement of a new adventure!! This was back in 1998 when no one had a cell phone and AOL was just becoming popular. We made it through just fine and have now been married 12 years! You guys will be great and have a stronger relationship for having gone through this!
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Joining in! Can't wait to read all about your adventure!
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So Cool!
I am really LOVING reading your updates! I was not able to participate in the College Program because some unfortunate family stuff that happened in High School/College so I am always regretting not getting to do it Getting to read about your experience makes me feel like I get to go back in time and experience it too! Thanks so much for writing this!!!!
My hubby and I go once a year at least and he always promises me we will retire and work at Disney though so I have some hope of being a cast member someday When you see all the behind the scenes stuff, does it make it any less magical? That's something I have always wondered....
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Creating a Masterpiece
Dave King on Nov 19 2013 | Filed under: CRAFT, Inspirations, Uncategorized
In the days when many professions were controlled by guilds, your masterpiece was not your best or most celebrated work. It was your first halfway decent work – the piece you presented to the guild judges to show you deserved to be named a master of your craft. I've been thinking about this practice as I've watched clients go through the long, often disheartening, battle to get published. I so often want to remind them – your first published work is going to be your weakest. It is, after all, the first piece that shows you can write well enough to survive in the marketplace. It's your masterpiece.
It's easy to forget that the early work of every writer, no matter how gifted, is usually mediocre at best. Some years ago, I read a very early novel by a writer I admire a great deal – Rex Stout, the creator of Nero Wolfe. The novel I found was written almost a century ago, more than a decade before the first Wolfe novel. It was unreadable – so wordy, stilted, and melodramatic that I couldn't finish it. So when clients tell me that reading some brilliant writer has left them feeling intimidated, I usually tell them to find an early work by the same writer. It almost always cheers them up.
Of course, today Stout's earliest novels would probably never have sold. Back then, the publishing industry was a lot more receptive to writers who hadn't yet mastered their craft. Radio was years away, and television decades, so books formed a large part of an evening's entertainment, creating a voracious market. Writers tended to stick with a single publisher as well, so an editor like Max Perkins could nurse budding authors like Hemingway and Fitzgerald through their early, less masterful works, knowing they would stick with Scribners once they hit their stride. Today even the most promising authors are competing against a huge and diverse entertainment industry, and acquisitions editors expect big success with every book they buy. It's a tough market, and you need a much higher level of mastery in order to break into it.
So if what you thought was your masterpiece has collected 137 polite rejections, don't be discouraged. It may simply mean you still have a ways to go before you've mastered your craft. According to Malcolm Gladwell, you become expert at something by doing it for 10,000 hours. You can write quite a few novels – or rewrite one novel quite a few times — in 10,000 hours. As I once heard it put, you can learn to write well by writing badly for ten years.
There are shortcuts available. A large part of learning your craft is learning to see your own flaws – no one who isn't a satirist writes badly on purpose. One way to spot your own shortcomings is to put your first novel in a drawer and look at it again in a few months or years. Or you could find new eyes to point your flaws out to you — a very honest friend, a critique group or <ahem> a professional editor. In any case, having someone else go through your manuscript, Max-Perkins-like, can get you to mastery a lot more quickly than doing it on your own.
One supposed shortcut I try to steer clients away from is self-publishing. I realize that there are examples of much-rejected novels finding self-published success. I've also encountered writers for whom self-publishing made sense for other reasons. But for most writers, self-publishing is a distraction from the real business of writing. I certainly understand and sympathize with the temptation. If you've already put in a year or more of hard work creating characters you love and a plot you can recite in your sleep, the siren song of Amazon Kindle can be nearly irresistible. But while you will get something to put on your shelf, or in your e-reader, you will probably spend a lot of time and money trying to market a novel you should be rewriting.
Some years ago, a client hired me to do a diagnostic reading report. I was expecting her to send me a manuscript and was surprised when a hardback copy of the self-published work showed up in my mailbox. Seems that she had finished her novel and moved straight into self-publication. She turned to me when her sales failed to reach triple digits. The novel had a lot of promise, with intriguing characters, and a couple of very sweet features to the plot. But her writing style was so flawed – her handling of point of view was particularly inept — that her characters never came to life.
Just the other day, a fan of Self-Editing for Fiction Writers sent me a copy of his first, self-published novel. I can't open it without finding writing so awkward – expository dialogue, pages of narrative summary, paragraphs-long passages in italics – that it's clear this one wasn't ready for prime time.
I don't mean to discourage. Creating terrific characters in an engaging story is a brilliant, wonderful way to spend your life. I just want to remind you that the surge of joyful creation that went into your first draft is just the beginning. I don't want you to wind up like a client I had many years ago. She wrote a novel with great promise but a number of beginner's flaws. Instead of working on that one, she got bored and wrote another one – plenty of promise, and all the same flaws.
Your current draft may be the best thing you've ever produced. That doesn't necessarily mean it's your masterpiece. You don't become a writer by writing a novel. You become a writer by learning to write. Your novel may only be a means to that end.
So keep at it. Eventually you will produce your masterpiece. Then you can begin the real work of being a writer.
About Dave King
Dave King is the co-author of Self-Editing for Fiction Writers, a best-seller among writing books. An independent editor since 1987, he is also a former contributing editor at Writer's Digest. Many of his magazine pieces on the art of writing have been anthologized in The Complete Handbook of Novel Writing and in The Writer's Digest Writing Clinic. You can check out several of his articles and get other writing tips on his website.
40 Responses to "Creating a Masterpiece"
I love this - I've noticed the same thing with writers I love. Their earliest published book is rarely up to the standards of later works. (Of course, there's also the problem of a writer getting stale and formulaic as they mature, but that's a different post).
Hello Dave,
This gave me pause: "You can learn to write well by writing badly for ten years." I'd like to rephrase that as you can learn to write well by writing progressively better over the course of a decade, or at least I really hope so!
Thanks for this thoughtful, masterly post.
Wise advice from a veteran. I hope writers will heed it.
Many will not. The 10,000 hours required to master the complex art form of fiction is a lot to ask. Most seek validation along the way, hence the trap (for many) of self-publishing.
I sometimes wonder whether self-published authors actually read other self-published authors. There are stacks of such stuff at my agency and just an hour with them would show anyone why those novels didn't make it with New York publishers.
There are other ways to receive validation along the way. That's why critique groups, professional mentors, independent editors, craft books, workshops, conferences and communities like WU are so important. They keep us going.
The road to traditional print publication is longer today but it can be done. Writers are doing it all the time, even now. True enough, publishers are highly resistant. This is the toughest market I've seen in my 36 years in the industry.
However, it's tough because recession battered retailers and readers don't have the patience to see new authors through their early training novels. They want mastery, in the modern sense, right away. Especially for $25. In a way, who can blame them?
The very conditions that make it so difficult can also be taken as a challenge. High mastery is expected of symphony musicians, ballerinas, Olympic athletes, brain surgeons and more. Why not novelists too?
This isn't an easy road but who wants it to be? There's no great satisfaction in doing what anyone can do. I'm all for mastery. I know many writers who have met that standard or are on their way. A lot of them are reading this post and this comment right now.
Yep. Reading.
Trying. Hitting my head against the keyboard. Rewriting.
Hours? Years. Decades. And still we strive. Because that's obviously what it takes.
It was twenty-two years from the time I picked up a pen in 1991 to see if I could write a novel and get it published until I finally had a novel published (WaterBrook/Random House) this past August. I wrote nearly every day of those decades, except for a few years in the middle when I was recovering from cancer, then had to retrain myself to write. Amazing what chemo does the brain. I think I doubled Gladwell's 10,000 hours in the process, but I wouldn't go back and change that now. Writing for the love of writing was well cemented in me during those years. As was patience. Both are coming in handy now.
"There's no great satisfaction in doing what anyone can do." That really moves me. I don't want the easy road--what for? My main goal is writing the absolute best work that I can; that has to mean more than publication, or I've already let down my potential readers. It's great to have the validation of a contract, but ultimately what I want is the validation of knowing that I did the best I could.
I'm taking every word you've written here to heart. Over the past 11 years I've watched fellow critique group members or friends of friends self-publish. Some of these books I edited. I even used the term 'not ready for prime time'. I especially used this on myself while people kept asking me 'where's your book? Why is this taking so long? Who's holding you back?"
The short answer? Me. I've told myself that I'm in a long master class, learning a craft. Your post validated this for me and made my morning coffee taste way better. Thank you.
Dave, what an excellent post, and how timely during this national insanity virus called NaNoWriMo (National Novel Writing Month for newbies). The point I personally took away was the expository dialogue critique. I am highly regarded in my critique circles (and even endorsed by a few pros) for my natural dialogue and consistent voice. However, and this may be part of my own work to master my craft, I found myself trying to "get rid of the long, boring parts" in my NaNo this year by falling into that trap. If I edit this novel after I finish the first draft, I will slay that dragon, and just make the prose interesting to my YA readers.
Donald, your response really got me to thinking. The agent doesn't really care about developing an author until he is absolutely certain he has something to develop. That means projecting out to the coffee tables and book clubs. Experimental work (my first novel, which had multiple points of view with three distinct narrators, or my pick for best book of the working class since The Grapes of Wrath, David Dennis's Why She Left Us) aren't necessarily going to have an easy time finding their agent.
Thanks to both of you for your many years of wisdom.
Hi Dave,
I too find my story to be mediocre at this point and I thought it was all the better I was going to get. I find this article very encouraging.
Thank you.
This was a wonderful post and a great reminder that writing is not only learned by writing, but also by reading, setting aside, re-writing, and setting aside. It takes time. And it should.
My "starter" novel, as I call it, has been years in the process and I have learned a huge amount by the revision process. It is daunting, but if we don't love to write, and more and better and then more, then what's the point? Thank you Dave, and Donald too, for your perspective and reminders that writing is not a get-good-quick endeavor!
Thanks, Dave. You made my morning.
I'm taking the patient learning route, and often find myself bombarded with friends and family trying to understand why I'm not rushing to have my work in print. "My writing is like a fine wine," I say. "It needs a lot of time behind the cork."
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Great post Dave - helpful and motivational - thanks so much.
I am fairly new to creative writing and hope to write badly for less than ten years, but we will see...
Fantastic post. I've waffled back and forth about self pubbing my first novel after more than 100 rejections and MUCH rewriting. But I am now looking at that first effort for what it is: proof to myself that I could finish a novel-length work and a laboratory where I have worked to improve my craft. But I don't necessarily want to invite people into the lab, with it's spills and burn marks and caustic chemicals strewn about. On to novel #2 and, hopefully, my masterpiece.
Hello Dave,
This is a terrific post. I spent 14 years working on my first novel before it was published by a traditional publishing house, and during those 14 years I watched countless friends become impatient and jump the gun and self-publish. The result is that they are now in a cycle of needing to publish rather than needing to write a good book. As for my own first novel, it is obviously flawed in places, but those 14 years taught me a great many lessons that I am now able to apply to my new novel-in-progress. Some days I get very discouraged --- this was one of those days --- so your post is timely and much appreciated.
Thank you,
Maybe this wasn't supposed to be the main point of your piece, but I was most inspired by the idea that the "masterpiece" wasn't, traditionally, your greatest work. I'm looking forward to digging up some early works of now-famous novelists - I'm hoping that will ease the pain of the struggles I had with my first book!
Sobering post, but one that definitely got this fledgling writer's attention. I'm resistant to self-pubbing and at times, as I see others pass me by (while my year-old draft still goes through revisions), I get anxious. But, while my last name may be Swift, my process sure isn't.
Thanks for the piece of gristle to chew this morning, Dave.
Dave, I like your "You don't become a writer by writing a novel. You become a writer by learning to write." But I have to ask, doesn't it become more than that if you are really serious? Self-published or not, all writers need more than learning and practicing their writing skills, talent, and achieving professionalism (yes, editors, editors, editors!). We also need the highest commitment to the journey: writing is a way of life in perspective, creativity, thoughts, words and deeds. I wonder, isn't the true masterpiece ... becoming a writer?
Two things I learned in the twenty-two years it took me to see a novel traditionally published:
1. Love the writing more than the idea of being published.
2. Be patient.
There's lots more, but those two top my list.
Great post, Dave. Good reminders for writers at whatever stage of the process we're in.
Thanks SO much for this post, Dave. It hit home for me as well. As Marialena said, "writing is not a get good quick" endeavor. After having what I think is my best work yet rejected time and time again, I finally hired another editor who knows her stuff to look at the first 100 pages of the book. I'm awaiting her reply. I can't wait to see what it is that I'm "not" doing right. I'll get there some day and I know it will take many more books and rewriting to find what is truly worth getting out there to the public these days.
It's too easy to be overwhelmed by your own "brilliance". It's so easy, it happened to me.
I can remember telling a friend, "Most first books aren't worth the paper, but mine is."
I'd self-published it and it became a best-seller on my tiny island. But it wasn't my best work. However, it did teach me to write.
Thank you, Dave, for your wise words.
Wonderful post, Dave. I thought I was brilliant when I first started. Even submitted dummies with instructions. Editors were kind to send me encouraging notes of rejections. I am thankful for them. Now I see myself growing but again I see the distance between where I am now and where I want to be ... and the only way to bridge the gap is to read and write. Take classes. No shortcuts.
The 10K rule makes sense. It's how long it took me to become a good scientist. Same holds true for becoming a writer.
Great advice. I went through the early phases of the emerging author. I just knew I was the one you've all been waiting for. That little fantasy imploded quickly. After kicking a few chairs and house pets, I settled into learning mode. I'm still there, and it's been about ten years (I took a break for politics...I don't recommend it), and can really see the improvements as they happen. While I've given up on Donald Maass offering to house my children over the summer in exchange for taking him on as my agent (they don't eat much...really), I'm confident that a little persistence will go much further than the power of ego. Thanks for a great post and a great book.
Sobering, indeed. I agree, there are no short-cuts to GREAT writing.
However, those who choose to self-publish should not be made to feel they are second-rate writers. And we all know, some of the stuff published by the big houses should never have made it past the slush pile. Even recently.
There is a fine line here. You cannot lump all self-published writers into one group of validation-seeking writers. There are other reasons to self-publish, and I think there are even a few self-published masterpieces out there, whether the industry likes it or not.
Love this. It does indeed take continued hard work to improve. I've looked back at pieces I wrote even a year ago and cringe in response, but also with a kind of glee, because I was so much younger as a writer then.
Ron Padget has a great poem called "Scotch Tape Body" in is collection, How Long. In the poem he talks about the enjoyment of looking on the past and finding old poems he'd written and taped into notebook. He wonders briefly if it would have been better if he had never written the poems at all, but realizes that without those poems, he would be denied:
the pleasure of wincing
then forgiving myself
of catching glimpses of who I was
of who I thought I was
And I think that is just so true.
Masterfully done, Dave!
I (naturally) especially liked this: "...having someone else go through your manuscript, Max-Perkins-like, can get you to mastery a lot more quickly than doing it on your own."
So true. I had the good fortune to find such an editor/mentor years ago when I was a shiny new novelist. I remember his excellent advice, and kindness, still. He helped my writing advance exponentially. Now I try to do the same for others as an editor.
Friends, beta readers, and writing groups can all give valuable feedback. But to really understand what's working, what's not, why, and how to fix it, a pro is irreplaceable.
Good editors share their secrets, can tell you "why" and "how" with every suggestion, so that you become a master, too ... with practice, of course.
Excellent. I really appreciate this piece, Dave. I've long had a copy of your Self-Editing book beside me as I write, and appreciate that breaking in to print requires mastery, dedication, and patience. Thank you for the eloquent reminder. I'm printing this to keep as a great reference. Thank you!
As usual, you've written an excellent article.
I'm still working on my first novel and I suspect I'll still be working on it next year. Every day I'm learning more. It's strange to look at my early chapters that I haven't seen for awhile. Instead of discouraging me, they give me confidence because I know my writing has improved.
When I hear of writers who are ready to publish their first draft, I think, "Aw, bless your heart." I think of it as only being halfway there.
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A great post, Dave!
I'm one of those writers who's in the camp that if a book's not good enough to interest a trade publisher then a writer ought to keep refining it, or move onto another and learn from that book (I do believe that either one can lead to publication - take Andrew Davidson with his debut novel Gargoyle, for example; developing a story is like an onion, you can keep going until you get to the heart of it, if you're willing to persevere through all those tears).
It's definitely a mind-set that separates writers who love their craft from writers who just want to see their name on the cover of a book. But that's just my opinion, I guess.
This post (and Don's comment) should be the first part of a "required writer's curriculum."
There are factors that get in the way of heeding this advice, however.
Factors such as:
1. The value one places on writing as a craft.
2. The learning environment that exists for the writer.
3. The value others place on writing as a craft (how many posts have you read about simply "writing what you know"?).
4. The value one places on self-education in relation to how much experience a writer has.
And on... and on... these factors work both for and against the 10,000 hour rule.
This post is absolute GOLD, great piece Dave.
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I'm hoping my 2nd novel is better than my first.
One of my mistakes was keeping too much in my head and not in the story. I think I corrected it since I added 100 pages to this book. Maybe I went overboard?
My second mistake was using a lot of the same, tired words. When you have word-finding difficulty, it seems easier to keep using the ones you remember! However, the more writing and reading that I've done, the better my word-finding has become.
Organizing my story was a problem with the first one as well as this one. I tend to chase rabbits down the rabbit hole on a regular basis.
Outlining? I don't do it but probably should. I have a great story start and can get close to the middle of the book, and I have an ending; but I don't have most of what happens in between. I normally let my characters tell me what they're doing, but I'm going to try to outline my next novel. Hopefully, that will help me write it faster.
That covers my worst sins in writing.
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|"Driftless" author David Rhodes will speak Oct. 21 at UW-Eau Claire's Schneider Disability Issues Forum.
EAU CLAIRE — A Midwestern author who wrote three critically acclaimed novels before a motorcycle accident left him paralyzed from the chest down and sidelined his career for 30 years will speak at the second annual Schneider Disability Issues Forum.
David Rhodes, who began to publish again in 2008, will give a presentation about his career and newest novel at 7:30 p.m. Oct. 21 in Phillips Recital Hall of the Haas Fine Arts Center at UW-Eau Claire. The presentation, titled "Words in Wisconsin," is free and open to the public.
Rhodes will talk about his recent book, "Driftless," which is a funny, poignant novel with themes of isolation, spirituality, marital discord, aging and death. The book is set in a small town in Wisconsin and includes a quirky cast of characters: among them, a middle-aged couple who guards the family farm from the schemes of their milk cooperative; a paraplegic who suddenly regains the use of her legs; a pastor who finds enlightenment when she least expects it; a cantankerous and prejudiced retiree; and a former drifter who forever alters the ties that bind the community together. The Chicago Tribune praised the book as "the best work of fiction to come out of the Midwest in many years."
Rhodes, who received a master's degree in fine arts from the Iowa Writers' Workshop in 1971, is the author of "The Last Fair Deal Going Down," published in 1972; "The Easter House," published in 1974; and "Rock Island Line," published in 1975.
Rhodes will answer questions and sign books following the presentation. The book will be on sale after the talk.
The disabilities forum was established by Dr. Katherine Schneider, a UW-Eau Claire senior psychologist emerita, through a gift to the UW-Eau Claire Foundation in 2009. This year's event is co-sponsored by the Chippewa Valley Book Festival, UW-Eau Claire Services for Students with Disabilities and the UW-Eau Claire Foundation.
Schneider wrote her own book relating to her experiences as a blind person, "To the Left of Inspiration: Adventures in Living with Disabilities," and a children's book titled "Your Treasure Hunt: Disabilities and Finding Your Gold." She worked in Counseling Services at UW-Eau Claire for 14 years and established the forum to help people understand accessibility issues for people who have disabilities.
For accessibility accommodations to attend the event, call 715-836-4542. Free parking for the event is available in the Haas Fine Arts Center lot and in the lot on Water Street directly across from the Hass Fine Arts Center.
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This week I did.
Brent Theobald is a former Marine sergeant who served tours in Iraq, Afghanistan and in the Horn of Africa.
Returning home he faced what most veterans' face – figuring out what to do with the rest of his life.
The Huntington Beach resident told me transitioning from military life to civilian life wasn't easy.
Theobald took advantage of the Post 9/11 Veterans Educational Assistance Act – the most extensive education assistance program since the signing of the original GI Bill in 1944.
Starting at Golden West College, he eventually found his way to Vanguard University in Costa Mesa.
There, the Veterans Program allowed him to go to school at night and work during the day, he said.
Graduating in 2011, he went on to work for the program.
Today at 31, he's the director of Veterans Affairs and Community Relations at Vanguard.
He's passionate about the importance of this program for returning military personnel, and the problems they face re-entering civilian life.
More than two million service men have been deployed to fight the war on terror, Theobald said. About 810,000 have deployed two or three or four times.
How they re-integrate back into society is vital to reducing homelessness and the staggering suicide rate among veterans.
Twenty-two veterans commit suicide every day – that's one every 65 minutes, according to the Department of Veterans Affairs 2013 Suicide Data Report.
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All of you LEAVE before I leave your worthless, bleeding, maimed corpses on a trash heap that they rightfully belong in.
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And what merits do you have, monkey? You have nothing to boast about other than having learned a dying fighting style. You have only fought simple jungle beasts after your miserable existence began. Even now, after you have somehow joined the League of Legends all you do is spend your time insulting those with infinitely more honor and skill than you. You are a worthless parasite monkey, and if you were to die it would a great favor to every being on Valoran.
Unlike you, I at least don't kill people. I will expand wuju to it's well deserved greatness.
My death would make Valoran a better place? Hah, only for you. If you were to die, how many would live? You are the one dying. The ones you killed will get you, in the afterlife!
I hold no grudges against the people I fight. I grant them a honorable death in battle, what better way is there to die? Do you think after decades of being on the front lines of war and still being alive today that I would die so easily? I will not allow myself to die an make my people appear to be weak. If my time is to come, however, I will make sure my death is a glorious one, in battle, against overwhelming odds. My people will remember me, can the same be said for you?
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At the time people remember you they will remember me while I am challenging gods to battle me. I will embrace death the day I find that I am the strongest.
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May 21 Or keep you going when you're just about ready to throw in the towel. In other words, I'm sharing 14 inspiring writing quotes that ought to help you if you're lacking in the inspiration department. If you're looking for specific ideas for blog posts, take a look at my post last week: 5 Blog Post Topics When Your Inspiration Well Runs Dry. Image source So, hate them or not, quotes can help give you a boost, even though sometimes, it's a temporary one. You know that we like sharing all sorts of quotes on Facebook and Twitter, so I thought [Read more…]
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Feb 28 Freelance writers need inspiration too and nothing beats the soothing sounds of your favorite tunes as you ponder your next hit story. I personally can't handle hearing outside noises while I brainstorm articles so I lock myself away with my headphones at home, turn the volume up and just float and get the work done. I like writing while at home but for the freelance writer on the go who loves the company of great sounding music, I've found some cool speakers, all fully funded projects from Kickstarter, to soothe your ear drums and get the creative juices flowing. All [Read more…]
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Carmel Beach, Carmel, California
It is on this pretty expanse of sand that the town of 4,000 lives up to its full name: Carmel-by-the-Sea. Fringed by pines, this municipal beach is clean, safe and well-populated by sunbathers and surf-waders, hosting a comfortable mix of locals and visitors. At the north end, you can observe duffers playing the famous Pebble Beach golf course. Uphill from the beach, Ocean Avenue is lined with rather-too-cute galleries and shops but also with fine restaurants, usually French-accented. For good California seasonal fare, try the cozy Casanova restaurant, a 10-minute walk from the beach.
Ipanema, Rio de Janeiro, Brazil
Don't hold Astrud Gilberto's can't-get-it-out-of-my-head "The Girl from Ipanema'' against the beach. Ipanema was a world-class destination before the 1964 hit song and it's survived in fine form ever since. Flanked by upscale apartments, shops, restaurants and cafes, the beach proper is a fine place for a dip and for showing off some truly spectacular bodies. Many trends have started here, not least the introduction of dental-floss-sized bikinis. Fresh slices of pineapple, chilled coconut milk and other treats from omnipresent beach vendors help to beat the heat.Jurassic Coast, Dorset and Devon counties, England Not just one beach but a 95-mile-long series of beaches and coves linked by winding public footpaths atop white, chalky cliffs, the Jurassic Coast is a haven for fossil-hunters and is a UNESCO World Heritage Site. The pebbly "shingle'' beaches at Charmouth give up small fossils -- usually a type of marine snail -- imprinted on stones to amateur Indiana Joneses. The big harbor at Poole sends ferries across the English Channel to France, and pints of British bitter are on tap at waterside pubs such as the 17th century Poole Arms.
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servings8 people
Ingredients2 c flour
2 t baking powder
1 1/2 c sugar
1/2 c butter, softened
2 eggs
3/4 c milk
1 t vanilla
6 oz chocolate chips
PreparationCombine flour, baking powder, sugar and butter in bowl and beat at slow speed of a mixer until mixture resembles fine crumbs. Set aside 1 cup of crumb mixture.
Add eggs, milk and vanilla to remaining crumb mixture. Mix well.
Pour batter into greased 7x11 pan. Sprinkle with chocolate chips. Top with reserved crumb mixture.
Bake in 350* preheated oven for 35-40 minutes.
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type: Quick & Easy, Cake
main ingredients: Chocolate
cuisine: American
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Washington Redskins Cheerleader Suffers Dystonia From Flu Shot - page 4
great must see video our six year old daughter was diagnosed with a mild form of dystonia but it took almost 2 years and 2 pediatric neurologists to get the correct diagnosis. her symptoms began shortly after receiving her 6... Read More
- 5Oct 23, '09 by ♪♫ in my ♥Quote from MandaTayeAnd I'd be standing right behind you, sleeve rolled up and resume in hand.I won't be getting it...and if I was forced to inject something into my body I would quit. Period.
- 5Oct 23, '09 by HM2VikingRNIt truly is sad that she developed this disorder. There are so many possible causes for this condition that I am uncomfortable attributing the cause of her illness to either the flu or the immunization.
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- 2Oct 23, '09 by blondy2061h, MSN, RNQuote from MandaTayeHaven't you already been? Haven't you been required to get PPD's? Prove immunity to measles? Rubella? Varicella?I won't be getting it...and if I was forced to inject something into my body I would quit. Period.
- 0Oct 23, '09 by CuriousMeQuote from blondy2061hShe might not....according to her status, she's a pre-nursing student.Haven't you already been? Haven't you been required to get PPD's? Prove immunity to measles? Rubella? Varicella?
I know my nursing school required all the things you're speaking of and my clinical sites required me to have both seasonal and H1N1 shot. Of course my school didn't require the flu shots.....but as I'm not allowed at my clinical site without proof of vaccination or documentation of a medical contraindication....there's no way to pass school without vaccination.
Who knows, maybe she'll opt to not go to nursing school.
- 0Oct 27, '09 by CaLLaCoDeThis is just heart breaking!
Informed decision required people:
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- 2Oct 27, '09 by TDFlMedicRNImportant distinction is that it is a seasonal flu shot, not H1N1. Tragic story.
Our daughter developed cranial nerve VI palsy after her regular immunizations at 18 months. She had gotten her DTaP, her MMR, and her last HiB series.
There is no way of knowing for certain what will happen when we inject attenuated virii or even killed virii particles into individual human bloodstreams. Especially not so many at one time. Yet the alternatives are just as untenable.
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Heroes Round Table: "Thanksgiving"by Matt Richenthal at . Comments
Welcome to the latest edition of the Heroes Round Table!
While fans are buzzing about the latest episode in our forum, and responding to our weekly review, a trio of TV Fanatic staff members have gathered to analyze various developments from "Thanksgiving."
It wasn't the worst hour of television in history, but a few storyline and/or characters need to be called out below. As always, we encourage reader feedback...
Which Thanksgiving meal was the most awkward?
M.L. House: Gotta go with the Bennets. Unless you're Bruce Willis and Demi Moore, the inclusion of new significant others with the rest of the family is always tough. Especially when your daughter stabs herself in the arm with a knife.
Dr. Shepherd: The Petrellis. It's gonna be hard for me to complain about a series of young, screaming cousins this year after watching them deal with the near-death of Angela and an internal struggle between Nathan and Sylar.
The Barnacle: Everything at the carnival strikes me as awkward. And boring.
Do you miss seeing the Heroes in action?
M.L. House: YES! I've often pushed for character development on this show, but must it come at the expense of so many individuals not using their powers?!? Think about it: Nathan, Peter, Sylar and Claire have been pretty much impotent all season. They never actually do anything with their abilities.
Dr. Shepherd: Big time. The main powers we've seen used this season involve Tracy (always a wasted, unnecessary character); Parkman (stuck in a confounding, wayward storyline); and Hiro (don't get e started on time traveling!).
The Barnacle: I wouldn't, if they actually did anything from week to week. Take Claire, for example. She just goes around brooding about her abnormal life. Hello! You can't die!!! Why not actually use that ability to help people?!?
Were you happy to see Gretchen return?
M.L. House: Not really. She left because she feared for her life. So she returned and now is happily going along with Claire on a dangerous mission?!? I hate when Heroes just makes characters act in whatever ways fit the storylines.
Dr. Shepherd: Only if it leads to another kiss. That was hot!
The Barnacle: Yes, because it appears as though her and Claire will actually take action now (see my answer above).
Are you excited about Hiro's storyline?
M.L. House: I can't even talk about that without getting angry. I pumped my fist when he stood his ground against Samuel... only to throw my remote when he appeared to revert back to a child - again!!!! - at the conclusion of the episode.
Dr. Shepherd: I won't judge this storyline until we see if come to fruition in the future. Safe to say, though, my reaction to Hiro's memory deletion was not position.
The Barnacle: They need to kill off Hiro. Let him die saving Charlie or helping mankind in some way, but it's incredibly clear that Tim Kring stopped having a clue how to write for this character two years ago.
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Hey everybody, it's Thanksgiving Day! I'm happy with my extra day off, and I am planning to make something fun that will probably involve a moto trip and seeing something new in Little Cottonwood Creek Valley I haven't seen yet.
You write something new at Thanksgiving?
I too was pissed off at Hiro's apparent memory wipe. He was JUST beginning to grow up and be more assertive against Samuel. Now we don't even know if he'll remember saving Charlie at all in the first place so for all we know she might as well get "Kaitlin'ed" into oblivion. That would be very disappointing. Although the original Charlie story was supposed to have Hiro meet her in Japan later on, so perhaps Hiro will have teleported to the right place and the right time to see her again... But would he even remember he saved her?
Aw, darn. I always think a show is pretty good then I read perfectly valid criticisms that make me think less of it. I agree that Claire & Gretchen have made absurd turnarounds from their recent very definite positions. Claire now wants to be just one of the freaks? Gretchen is already over the trauma of being a target? And it's true the heroes need to get over it and use their powers more. But I really disagree about Hiro. That's just blaming the victim to say he should be killed off. He just needs permission [from the writers] to grow up.


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|I would like to locate source(s) for seeds, cuttings or even plants for some of the following:
Zinnia grandiflora - Plains zinnia
Pectis angustifolia (limoncillo)
Melamphdium leucanthum - Blacfoot daisy
Leucphyllum candidum -Thunder cloud, or silver cloud
Leucphyllum frutescens - Green Cloud
Leucphyllum Langmanice (Lynn's Legacy)
Sophora Affinis - Eve's necklace
Pistacia mexicana (Pistacia texana) - Texas pistache
Diaspyros texana - Texas persimmon
And PLEASE excuse any misspellings. I have a place in north Brown county and would like to get a start of several of these. We have the Blackfoot daisy there already but would like additional seed if possible.
Thanks for the help.
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Party Recap
We had a great time at Reagan's party. Everything was centered around the Lalaloopsy characters and their world. We used bright colors and buttons for decorations. We had different stations themed around some of the main characters. Reagan was even dressed like her favorite Lalaloopsy, Blossom Flowerpot. It was a wonderful day.
Party Highlights
Party Favors
Lalaloopsy coloring book, button flower headband, button hair clip, bottle cap necklace, sucker, blower, gumballs, sixlets, cupcake egg with jelly beans
Activities / Games
All games and crafts were centered around the characters: "Crumbs sugar cookie bakery" - food table, "Peanut Big Tops" hook and hoop ring toss, "Blossom Flower Pot" planting station, "Sunny side up" pet adoption - make a bunny pet, "Spot splatter splash art wall, "Bea spells a lot" story time, "Tippy Tumbelina" dance time, "Marina Anchors" fishing pond, pin the crown on "Jewel Sparkles", also button ring making and Lalaloopsy pinata
Best Moment
Seeing Reagan's face when she came down and saw the party set up. She was very excited. She also loved her cake so much.
Funniest Moment
Seeing the pictures on the art wall. The kids love this activity. They can come to it anytime they are finished with an activity and they are waiting for the others to finish. I do this at every party. I just change the theme name for the activity. Last year it was Repunzel's art wall.
Most Touching Moment
When Reagan hugged me and said thank you and that she had the best mommy!
Best Dressed
Reagan...she was wearing a dress I handmade, that looked like her favorite character, Blossom Flowerpot.
What People Ate
Trix marshmallow treats, popcorn, cotton candy, crackers (buttons), pretzel rods (sewing hooks), sixlets, jellybeans, taffy, cupcake marshmallows, dum dum suckers.
What People Drank
pink lemonade from cute Mason Jars
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Thanks, it was a fun party! I used the colored sticker labels from the dollar store. I used a length of yarn/string the length of the door. I turfed the plates upside down and taped the yarn on the back. We then have a curtain rod hung there, so I tied it onto that. I then taped the yarn to the floor, so the plates wouldn't move.
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The Beneteau Owners Association was established in 1995 to improve communication between owners. Membershipis open to all owners of Beneteau boats throughout the world and comes with three editions of The Eau magazine delivered to your doorstep. The Association benefits from the support and active involvement of Beneteau and their dealers in the UK.
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Santa Rosa Beach, FL - Choctawhatchee Basin Alliance (CBA) of Okaloosa-Walton College recently received another $5,000 grant from the St. Joe Community Foundation (STJCF) to support CBA's Coastal Dune Lake Program, marking the third grant provided to CBA by the group.
Joining with CBA to ensure the future of the globally rare and imperiled Coastal Dune Lakes, the St. Joe foundation initially bestowed a $5,000 grant in the latter part of 2001 to enable CBA to develop a Coastal Dune Lake Program. The program began as a modest monitoring effort with limited educational opportunities for the community. However, both CBA and the St. Joe foundation quickly realized the enormous task of ensuring the stability of these rare lakes. The STJCF awarded another $5,000 grant and watched the program grow to a monthly volunteer monitoring effort, an educational source for local students and a provider of restoration projects to enhance the lakes.
The latest grant will support the Coastal Dune Lake Program, the primary focus of which is to garner community involvement toward sustaining and providing optimum utilization of the coastal dune lakes. This is mainly accomplished through a volunteer water quality monitoring initiative with over 30 volunteers who annually donate nearly 1,000 hours of service to the community. The program also stresses public education on issues concerning the lakes through community outreach programs at various events ranging from homeowners' meetings to community festivals. A special emphasis is being placed on the children of the community by providing lessons on water quality issues to local classrooms. CBA involves the students in restoration projects and is currently developing a vegetation monitoring program to increase participation outside the classroom.
Originally named the Northwest Florida Improvement Foundation, the STJCF was created to "invest in community initiatives that pay long-term returns on the quality of life in Bay, Franklin, Gulf and Walton Counties;" creating partnerships with local groups like CBA which have the same interest in building better communities. Since its origination in 1999, STJCF has donated over $3million regionally, with over $1 million of that sum dedicated to Walton County organizations that promote teaching and learning and creating healthier communities. For more information on The St. Joe Community Foundation, please visit www.STJCF.com.
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NBC's ER premiered 20 years ago, changing the style of medical dramas by marrying fast-paced action with richly drawn characters and serialized storylines. Competing against it on Thursday nights was another medical drama, CBS' Chicago Hope.
The CSI team investigates the death of a woman full of alcohol and drugs in a pool at a rehab facility. watch
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Detectives Steve McGarrett, Danny Williams and Chin Ho Kelly provide law and order in Hawaii.
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On Sept. 22, 2004, Oceanic Flight 815 crashed in the series premiere of Lost, changing the lives of not just those onboard, but also the millions of fans around the world. Nearly 10 years later, executive producers Damon Lindelof and Carlton Cusewere joined by various cast members during Sunday's PaleyFest panel to share some of their favorite memories and little-known facts from the show that changed the landscape of television:Lost stars: Where are they now?1. As many know, de facto leader ...
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Garcia, who's guest-starred on two episodes of the series, has been upped to a series regular for Season 6, according to The Hollywood Reporter.
Friday's episode of Hawaii Five-0 pays tribute to the attack on Pearl Harbor and the subsequent executive order that established Japanese internment camps on the Pacific Coast.
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Hawaii Five-0 doesn't waste any time getting into high gear when it kicks off its fourth season in a new timeslot this Friday (9/8c, CBS). There's no daring underwater prison break like in the Season 3 premiere, but the episode still manages to set in motion events whose ripple effects will be felt throughout the season. And not all of the major players make it out of the premiere unscathed. Will Steve McGarrett (Alex O'Loughlin) finally get the answers he's looking for from Wo Fat (Mark Dacascos)? Will Kono (Grace Park) be brought back into the fold? And who, or what, poses the biggest threat to the team this season?
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