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How to withdraw from Spice
When do you withdraw from Spice?
"Spice" (a combination of synthetic cannabinoids sprayed onto dried plant products) is made in a laboratory. The cannabinoids found in and on Spice produce effects that resemble those of cannabis, but can be many times more potent. However, heightened mood, relaxation and altered perception can also be accompanied by heart problems and hallucinations. And how Spice affects the brain isn't fully understood yet. But unlike cannabis, Spice contains chemicals that have no medical benefit but DO HAVE a high potential for abuse.
If you have used Spice and developed a physical or psychological dependence on Spice, withdrawing from Spice may be a good option. And if you need to increase the amount of Spice you smoke in order to achieve the desired effect, this increased tolerance may be a sign that you should begin to withdraw from Spice. read on for more on getting off Spice and how to help Spice addiction. Then, leave us your questions at the end. We do our best to respond to questions personally and promptly.
Withdraw from Spice symptoms
Withdrawing from Spice can cause physical and psychological withdrawal symptoms. These include:
- cravings
- headaches
- internal unrest
- nausea
- nightmares
- profuse sweating
- tremors
Spice withdrawal may also cause hypertension and agitation or irritability.
How long to withdraw from Spice?
Symptoms of Spice withdrawal can begin to be felt about 2-3 days after use is discontinued. Early symptoms are usually mild, and mostly you will just feel a level of internal unrest. However, Spice withdrawal symptoms can peak in severity after 4-7 days of abstinence. In most cases, symptoms dissipate 2-3 weeks after use has ended. However, psychological and emotional symptoms can last much longer if they go untreated.
How to ease withdrawal symptoms from Spice
Currently there are no medications that can help ease withdrawal symptoms from Spice. Doctors may recommend medication to safely lower blood pressure when hypertension becomes a problem; however there is no evidence this relieves any other symptoms. The best way to ease symptoms of Spice withdrawal is to seek support groups to help with psychological withdrawal symptoms. When cravings and nightmares occur, talk to a sober friend or someone that has a similar experience.
You may also seek to ease symptoms of Spice withdrawal with home remedies, like Tylenol and ibuprofen for headaches. It is important not to seek other self-medication methods for withdrawal symptoms, like alcohol or sedatives because of their addictive nature.
How to withdraw from Spice safely
Seek advice from doctors for information on safe withdrawal from Spice. Hypertension can be a serious symptom that your doctor may want to control with medication. It is safest to withdraw under the supervision of a drug counselor or doctor in order to keep complications from withdrawal symptoms at a minimum. Additionally, complications from smoking such as coughing and respiratory problems may require medical treatment. And always monitor your mental state, as hallucinogenic effects has been associated with even one-time Spice use.
Can I withdraw from Spice at home?
There is no evidence that withdrawing from Spice at home is not possible, however you should be prepared to deal with the symptoms of Spice withdrawal. The physical symptoms of withdrawal can be treated with home remedies, over-the-counter NSAIDs, or simple rest. But in order to deal with psychological symptoms when treating Spice withdrawal symptoms from home, speak with sober friends or family members, or seek drug support groups. It is important to talk with people who understand what you are feeling when you are facing cravings and other withdrawal symptoms.
The best way to withdraw from Spice
There are several ways to withdraw from Spice, including inpatient and outpatient treatment facilities. The best way to withdraw will vary according to your individual needs. But is recommended that you withdraw from Spice under the supervision of a drug counselor or a doctor. Both outpatient and inpatient facilities provide this option, which allows you to make the best decision for you. If you choose an outpatient facility, it is important to consider the environment in which you live and work. If your environment is safe, and you can surround yourself with supportive people, an outpatient facility is a good choice. However, if you aren't sure you will be in a safe environment, an inpatient facility may be the best option for you. For continued support for Spice withdrawal symptoms, seek a 12-step or other support group in your community.
How to deal with withdrawal from Spice questions
Are you seeking help for Spice withdrawal and have more questions regarding treatment or symptoms? Have you been dependent on Spice and gone through withdrawal symptoms and want to share your experience? Comment below with your questions or concerns and we will respond quickly and personally.
Reference Sources: University of Indiana: DSM-IV Substance Abuse Criteria
NIDA: DrugFacts: Spice (Synthetic Marijuana)
NCBI: Withdrawal Phenomena and Dependence Syndrome After the Consumption of "Spice Gold"
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Natural cannabis can be used to detox off of spice as it will prevent the physical withdrawal but it is illegal in many localities which keeps it from being an option for most people.
I am having such a hard time quitting! I hate it. Nothing works and I have no money for clinics or any of that crap. When I stop smoking I feel sick , hot flashes, queezy and get diarrea badly. I want to quit but i get so sick and dehydrated. If anyone can help please leave a message.
Hello anon. Reach out and call 1-800-662-HELP. There may be a public or sliding scale detox clinic near you.
This is the third time i've gone through spice withdrawals at home alone.
The first time I smoked 3 grams a day for 2 years straight until I had to make a big move to another state, I though it'd be a great time to quit so I left my pipe broken in a trash can. The move was extremely strenuous so I do believe it helped being super active while withdrawing (I'm not sure why my withdrawals weren't REALLY bad this time?). Also at that time I didn't even know there would be withdrawal symptoms! Wow I got lucky on that one!
A few months after moving I found a smoke shop and smoked for another year straight until they removed spice from their store. Okay let's just quit again! Oh boy, the first 3 days in and out of the shower constantly, profuse sweating no-matter the temperature and clothes were always soaked, 0 appetite for 5 days, diarrhea constantly, throwing up constantly. I couldnt stand it so I put a towel in the shower for a pillow, put the plug in and could finally sleep! I would wake up every 10 – 20 minutes to let the water out and back up again to keep comfortable. Finally after 3 days living in the bathroom I was finally able to keep the sweating down to a minimum and could sleep in the bed, but still barely… Okay, never again will I touch this stuff, I have literally never been so uncomfortable in my life. I would rather have broken bones. I quit for 1 year.
2 months ago… What the heck, lets see if I can just order the stuff online and sure enough! Within these 2 months alone I brought my tolerance back up to about 6 grams per day (an entire bowl every 15-20 mins?). Non-stop smoking, I would even scrape the resin and search carpet for any I missed. Well this is getting way to expensive so 4 days ago I ran out and decided not to buy more. Scraped every pipe and had globs of resin and decided to binge smoke it. It's 4am and It's finally all gone. HERE WE GO AGAIN! Only 2 hours after smoking all that resin I began feeling the symptoms again. Could not sleep, sweating like crazy and began throwing up as well as diarrhea. So disappointed in myself at this point.
This time I only stayed in the shower for about 8 hours. I thought if I could make myself throw up MORE it'd help. So I filled up 32oz cups with HOT water and downed them, then making myself throw it up several times until only clear water came out. Then I would drink a cup of water to try and keep it down. I also took fish oils which helped alot, yogurt and milk were also my new best friends.
It's day 4 and I've finally stopped throwing up and the diarrhea has gone away. I still have a cough and no appetite and am still sweating but bearable. Time seems to crawl when you're in this state and my mind is very cloudy. I'm gonna get through this and this is it, never touching this stuff again. I have never been more excited to feel normal and have a new-found burning desire to live life to the fullest!
Good luck to all, hope there are a few tips here that can help and it is possible. Don't bring yourself down you can do it.
I smoked spice for 1 1/2 more than usual the past few weeks.. I decided enough was enough so I quit on Monday.. I've had severe anxiety attacks hot and cold sweats runny stool uneasiness .. I was hospitalized twice and they just gave me adavan for my anxiety to calm me down.. Don't have much of an appetite.. What else can I do to help me with this withdrawl
Im to the point where everytime i dmoke i feel like im going to die but if i dont smoke i get really really sick . I mean i cant sleep or eat ..nothing . Im so tired of ghis shit i want to put it down but i cant , & im afraid its going to KILL me before i can stop . I NEED HELP OMG
Hi Amanda. Call 1-800-662-HELP to be put in touch with the National Drug Abuse Hotline. They can help refer you to treatment centers that can help.
I started smoking spice 4 years ago. When i stopped in january the only withdraw was the sweating.. So in aug i picked it back up again. I soon realized it wasnt the same stuff i was buying before. Sure the High was Great but when i didnt have it i was not sleeping Or eating. Aggitated and real hungry . I stopped smoking tues at 6:30am. At that time in the morning will be Day two for me. Omg let me tell u Day 1 will be tour test. Milk and soup will be every meal. Steamy showers really helped yesterday. For sleep over counter stuff may help. Ive tried solids today took a few bites with milk (k)ey…
so far so good. Keep active like pacing Or anything to keep your mind occupied. Its hard and i has a whole blunt when i decided to quit. I looked at it and said I will beat u and flushed it… First step, is to admit problem and want better for YOU. 2nd step get away from contact with it, and ways to smoke it. If u really want to quit, then if u have it flush it. Once its gone its time to except that this is gonna be hard but it wont beat u. Day to Day get up and fight. Everyday u fight, is a day closer to it being OVER… Like i said im going on day 2 and its misserable but all things are possible through prayer and support and most of all to me, dedication to the cause. If your smoking spice and think u have it under control and its not harming u, then Just wait till u feel what the hundreds of us are now. When u dont have it around and cant get it u all will ser the pain and
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Ok so im on Day there and things are alot better. Im rating sólida and holding everything Down. Sleeping better also. I found if i stayed on my feet all Day and wore myself out it helps tremendously.. Also before bed steamy steamy hot showers. I will never touch that
This stuff is extremely hard to kick!!! I've seen some very bad withdrawls but it can be kicked it just takes going through a few days of hell
This is the second time I've quit spice. It has pretty much ruined my life. I even got to where I was smoking while I worked. I work from home, I was so addicted I'd smoke during conference calls, and one time I was so high I couldn't utter a word. Needless to say, where I was once a very valuable worker, I was then being replaced by others. My boss was even telling me I didn't seem myself. The first time I quit I was smoking 5 grams a day. I had developed pneumonia from smoking, yuck. Vomiting, hot and cold sweats, no appetite, diarrhea, sleepless, horrible. In bed for a week and missed the conference I was at. So then things are fine until I decide the stress is to much and I get back on it. Fortunately on 1.5 grams/day, but now i am sick to my stomach (I hate nausea, it's the worst). Over-the-counter hasn't worked, pepto does not work, nor alka seltzer. I'm going to push through it. I don't care if this stuff is legal, it is awful. btw my husband was admitted to the hospital this summer with high blood pressure 220/120, and a psychotic break, now many things contributed, but the spice was definitely a culprit.
I went to the walk in i dealt with everything but couldnt stand rolling around in bed all night, so the doc prescribed me ambien for 5 nights and that got me right through it. This drug is dangerous and can become addictive very fast. They thought i was on heroine bc my wd was so bad.
Ive been selling ounces to pounds of spice over the past year. My old dealers stop selling to me cause I would smoke a half ounce to an ounce a day (not sell, smoke) they said I was gonna die If I kept it up. I tried stopping the past two days. No sleep, so I caved and got more. Im freakin out here. People have said theyve seen crack addicts worse. One of the people I sold to got anmonia from it he says. Please get back to me.
I was smoking spice sience 2007 when jwh 018 was in it and now someone really dear to me is going through withdraws and shes alredy sick as it is im scared for her i care about her so much i kicked it alone at my apartment contsant vomitting for three days straight i wasant Able to even hold water down i was smoking atleast 10 to 15 grams a day and iv had some friends of mine get hospitalized and had a seizure and died this shits a killer if you have a problem with spice do not.let it go unheard emotions are going to run very strong for the next few days but its worth it.completely im on day four now amd.finally im able to nibble on things amd.kinda keep
My husband is very addicted to spice. He has been on it for 4years now. He seriously needs help,or he will die. He has health problems and acts like a monster with out it. He has totally changed. Please give advice.
Hello guys, ive been using spice for over a year now, Every day like most of u guys. Im maried, i have 6 months old kid at home, im in the middle of the 2nd year in the uni. I can tell u one fact about spice, it makes u stupid forever. Even after u quit. I almost lost every thing cuz of this poison. My wife doesnt know about my addiction, no one knows, i manage to keep my life together but its so hard. Three days ago i desided to quit, since then i dont wanna smoke, not even thinking about it, but the withdrawal is so hard… I think ill overcome, im strong minded guy. What do u guys think, can stop spice and not tell anyone about it? I love my wife so much, i dont wanna hurt her, can i keep it secret and still quit? No one knows about my addiction, its the first time talking about it. Plz guys, dont smoke that poison.
my boyfriend smokes this stupid shit and i fuckin hate it….
he will pawn his shit
he will ask everyone for money just to get the dummy drug
he will even ask me but i wont give him the money
im trying to help him stop i will hide the weed throw it away
but nothing is working
like last night he started his withdrawals and he was sweating and throwing up
and i sit there and tell him the more u depend on it the worst you are going to get
I Need HElp trying to get him to stop
he is breaking his mom's heart
like this is gone way to far
he has no insurance
no job how am i suppose to help him
I'm just curious how long the withdrawal process lasts my fiancé has been smoking it for 3 years and recently stopped 1 week ago, when he had it he needed it everyday and he couldn't sleep unless he smoked before he went to bed, it's been really tough for him his mood escalates so quickly and I'm worried about him I just need some answers, he refuses any help
Day three without using. My body is starting to recognize how tired it has been from the lack of sleep from being addicted. Still get hot then cold within minutes of each other, but the sweating has stopped. I feel weak from lack of nutrition; eating half bowls of soup to try to get strength back up. Still jittery, still irritable, but I'm OK. I will get better and so will you all. Prepare to spend a lot of time in the shower or bathtub, and some really stinky poops.
No sleep in days. Freezing sweats. Shakey and on the edge. Entire body is so numb on day 5.. Fuk spice! So addictive. I've landed on tha moon and most likely mars. Until I was an entity in space with no memory of a life. Then blam. Up n sober n freaking out. Ya, any questions ask me
I'm outta control. U guys r talkin about being addicted smoking 3 – 5 grams and losing your appetite? I smoke like 15grams and eat like a pig. If I don't smoke, I guess I'm mean. I need HELP.
I am trying to detox from synthetic marijuana its been 4days and the sweats and the loss of appetite it's still goin on plus the tremors ands high blood pressure I'm doin it at home and its rough is there a detox bath that can pull the chemical from your body or any advice to help make it easier? Iwas smoking one called "happy" and i recommend that no one ever tries it i was passing out and my friend was seizing please help if you can
I have been detox week and two day i can not eat, sleepand have cold and hot sweasts. I'm haveing the same simtoms that kimberly has
I know I'm going to get a lot of discrimination for this but here is my story. I am a 16 year old from Cali. I had a high tolerance to weed and a horrible family and social life so I seeked something stronger. I first tried spice back in July of 2013. The intake grew more and more as I fell deeper into addiction. Since about November or December, I started using all the money I could be on spice. I began having a high tolerance to it and would even smoke the very dangerous res once I wouldn't be able to go out and buy more. The last time I smoked I was smoking a black bowl of resin and it was literally frying and popping in the bowl while I was smoking it. However, it has been a week and a day since my last intake. It started with what everyone in my house thought was strep. I could not even drink water because my throat was dangerously swollen. Then began the hot and cold flashes. Then loss of appetite and a lot of weight. Now I stay up all night with intense lower back pain and migraines. I am so thankful I was able to stop but the emotional and physical toll it has taken on me is unforgivable. Hope full one day i can return and tell you guys that I'm doing just fine but for now it is a lot of painful suffering. I don't even remember what its like to wake up and feel okay. Something somewhere always hurts. Im never not in pain. Someone please reply i need to know if the back pain and some painful bloating is a common withdrawal. Help me.
OK well here is my story of my battle with the devils weed also known as spice. I hope it helps because this shut is lethal and people in my area have died from it. I've been addicted to spice for 3 years, starting with a very cheap low grade with a mild high and it escalated from there moving to more expensive and potent brands. If you are addicted to it then as you already know it completely controls your life from eating habits, mood, sleeping habits, and not to mention how hard it hits your finances. I've lost a car, an apartment, everything material thing I've owned to pawn shops, and most of all myself. I was a walking zombie living to feed my habit. I was lucky enough to have a revelation in church that made me want to quit, but still I could not bring my self to do so on my own. When I ran out of spice I've smoked the tar, and even shook out my bathroom carpet for any that may have dropped. Needless to say it was ruining my life and my health. So I decided to quit once I ran out and scraped everything clean.once I was out this was the hardest 4days of my life but totally worth it and needed to save it. While going through withdrawals I experienced everything from the shakes, hot cold flashes, did not eat all 4 days, lost about 45 pounds, brain fog, coughing up black mucus, irreguler heartbeat and emotional destress. I would not suggest anyone doing it at home like I did because I'm sure I could've died. What saved me was on that 3rd day of withdrawal I told my parents about my problem. This was the hardest thing I ever had to confess but all they were concened about was getting me help. They took me to the ER and I was put on an IV. The doc prescribed me some anti anxiety and nausea, and sleep meds. After I was discharged I enrolled into a 12 step outpatient rehab program. This is the best thing I could have done, it helps fill my time when I get off and surrounds me withnpeoplenwho understand what I'm going trough. You would be surprised how being the a spice addict in a group of meth, crack, heroin addicts does help
And how being able to share your story is extremely therapeutic and keeps the cravings at bay. FOR ANYONE WHO HAS ALREADY QUIT, if u can't eat make sure to take multivitamins and I found that fruits were a good start to regaining appetite and health. If u are having stomach and back pains this may be because of the fact that spice binds to opiate receptors in the brain, so quitting can cause pains like withdrawing from pain killer like oxycotin. If u have stomach pains see a doctor asap, they now have linked spice to kidney failure and liver damage. IF YOU ARE STILL SMOKING SPICE please quit asap especially if u are not physically addicted yet, it is a lot easier that way, I've done it before but relapsed because I was not in a support group and made bad decisions. I was only physically addicted for the last 2 months when a more potent strand came out. But I knew all strands were slowly killing me. If you are like me then u won't have the will power to quit alone due to the addiction, GET HELP, REACH OUT. Its hard to do but it will save your life. Even if you don't have the support of family get yourself to a place that will assist you. Look online and Make phone calls. I promise you are not in this alone. I can't tell you how much better I feel now that my life doesn't revolve around this stuff. I sleep a full night, I eat very well now, I'm thinking clearly and rationally. I have money in my pockets. And I'm rebuilding relationships with those I've shunned. IF YOU KNOW SOMEBODY THATS USING GET THEM HELP IMMEDIATLY. an addict will do everything in there power to keep there habit going like I did. I Convinced my girlfriend not to tell my parents after she got fed up. And eventually lied and said I quit and his my habit after she threatened to more. Don't talk about getting a loved one help just do it, we are not ourselves in our active addictions.But be extremly cautous that things can get violent do not confront a spice addict alone. I was prepared to leave everything for this stuff, my girlfriend, my kids, my career. I thank God for saving me. Don't wait until its to late. SWALLOW YOUR DAMN PRIDE AND GET HELP
I am an ex spice addict I havnt smoked it in 3 months. I smoked that stuff everday all day FAITHFULLY. It took over my mind and body. I seen myself changing. Looking for roaches on The floor stealing lieing just doing what I had to. If I didnt smoke I was mean , irritable, throwing up , sick and nausea. Couldnt sleep constant urges night sweats loss of appetite . I lived slept and dreamed about that. I smoked everywhere I went every minute of the day I also got paranoid off spice. I decided for 2014 to quit and get my health back. I quit alone with no meds . I just dealt with it and thought about new year new me its been 3 months almost 4 and I have not smoked . I do smoke eeed which is way better and helps with my urge to smoke spice . I do not have to have weed or smoke everyday . Im not addicted anymore but I still have body withdrawls of spice im having them now but there dull nd ignorabke now I di noteven think of smoking or buying spice be ause I know it is evil . Let me know if u need help quitting.
Can't afford treatment centers and no insurance to see a Dr. Are there any home remedies that I can use to ease my withdraw symptoms from spice?
Hi David. Thanks for your question. So little is known about Spice withdrawal…it can help to seek a consult with a psychiatrist, doctor, or pharmacist because anti-depressants might be prescribed over the short term. Additionally, therapy or support can help during this time, as mood disorders such as anxiety or depression can manifest. In terms of physiological symptoms…I'll leave it to some other readers to contribute here. Or check out the article here on synthetic cannabinoids side effects…
My son is 24 on this spice for about 3 mos has tried to quit stomach ache, nausea,sweats,diarrhea. He has to work because he has finanacial obligations and can not miss the days it takes to withdraw. are there drugs he can use to withdraw and still work. He has insurance. He has come halfway admitted he has a problem. Please help don't want him to die fro this garbage.
Hello Gloria. At the moment, there are no prescription medications used in the treatment of synthetic cannabinoid withdrawal. I'd suggest that you look for a detox clinic near you which can offer consultation or even short-term inpatient treatment. You son may need to take a week (or more) to get Spice out of his system…and medical supervision can reduce risk of intense symptoms or psychological reactions. More here: http://findtreatment.samhsa.gov/
I am in the process of quitting spice right now. I have realized that I have had a problem and quit before but started back up. It's been two days and I feel like I am in hell. I am constantly sick, crazy anxious, and just can't even enjoy anything, even watching a show is hard for me. How long does this last? Will it ever get better?
Thanks for that input.
This is my 5 year smoking habit withdrawal story. I started smoking because of a bad break up and I needed a way to forget the pain and spice did just that. I'm on my 5th day of not smoking and its been tough. I'm able to sleep through the night now but not without an hr or two of laying in the dark. A few things that have helped me out are eating chicken noodle soup every day to keep my immune system up, stay very busy during the day at work teaching myself new things every day(weld, cnc program, lathe operate, fabricate). I find that doing new and interesting(dangerous things) keep my focused on what I'm doing and not the drug. During the daytime I don't have a problem as long as I'm at work, but my biggest adversary is the night time and my house. This is the time when I struggle because it's when I usually would smoke. What helps me get through the night is as follows… change my room up so I do not subconsciously get reminded by my environment of my habit, sleeping in a different room, read(takes your mind off of the drug). Stay out till it's time for bed, (did karaoke the other night) got a new hobby(drums), find a sexy female friend, when going to sleep turn everything off because your brain needs to start realizing when its time to shut down and relearn how to sleep. While trying to fall asleep i have the temp in the room at 64° and have a decent blanket. Seems to help with the sweats. Sleep in a different position(on an angle, slope, upside down, on a different side). While trying to fall asleep i use the usual sleep techiques(with your eyes closed picture your body as it is laying down, start at your feet and picture them sinking into the bed, then your shins, knees, waste, stomach, arms, chest, shoulders, then head.) What this does is relaxes your body inch by inch. With all of this I find myself sleeping through the night, dreaming about what I read before I knock out, relaxing, and not even waking up once. The first time I slept I woke a few times, and now I'm sleeping through the night. I also make sure to be physically active during the day wearing myself out during the day to help with sleep. If you relapse, try to limit and space out when you smoke to reduce how much you smoke. I use to smoke throughout the day and night and I eventually cut it out of the day, then smoke to sleep throughout the night. I would ware myself out during the day so that when I would smoke at night to fall asleep, I would wake up but be extremely tired and knock back out(intentionally not smoking. I could have but didn't need too to get back to sleep), then I would be getting tired at work towards the end of the day and start what I said earlier with my activities. Not an easy prosses but I'm getting there. I thank god for my mom because she's helped me a lot even after ive lashed out verbally towards her because of this damn drug, sold my belongings, pawned valuable items for the price of a pack. If you haven't done this drug, DON'T. Stay with weed. I wish I did. I take 500mg of Advil at night to help with my headache I get at night when the symptoms kick in because I'm not at work. Nyquil helps to start your sleeping. I hope this helps, please keep me in your prayers and I you. God is with you all. (I would have NEVER of touched this drug if big bad marijuana was legal. The goverment is ass backwards with its laws.)
Thank you all for your stories. Mine is similar coming off spice as a frequent user ( meaning when It wore off, smoke more) I have a history of drug abuse but have never experienced anything as intense as spice withdrawals. Sleeping isn't the problem, you SWEAT all night. And with the AC set on 60F your sweat gets cold causing the most horrific cold sweats ever. This lasted the first 5 days. Then came the vomiting. No nause.. Just bile that felt like it came from out of nowhere. This is week 2 and I'm starting to feel a lot better. Please please please DONT START this stuff it is ADDICTIVE and I am blessed today that I can write to anyone that will listen.
I am having a really hard time getting off of it. But i need to i feel like it's killing me from the inside out. I was 145 now i am 120 i need help but don't have money to pay for treatment. I have been addicted to every drug I've ever tryed and that just about all of them. So when i try to quit its very hard and i go through alot of pain.help me plz
Hey guys, Im Newly 18 years old , Engaged and have a Beautiful 2 year old son, Im definatly Not long time Addict like it seems alot of you were, But Im still having same symptoms, Vomitting, Cold sweats, Essentially living in the bathroom. I only Did spice in total, Probably about 4 times, It whas all good until I decided to use it to help me sleep, And thats when things went wrong, I did it twice, Two nights in a row, This stuff called scooby Snax and holy mother of god, I flew through the Trippiest high of my life, Im not gonna lie, I whas so Scared I actually slept with my mother that night, Hallucinating and the whole works. I Figured I would just go to sleep and Wake up, Fine and dandy like every other time. Well, That wasn't the case, Woke up Still really high, Cold sweats Ect. Sh** is horrible. I walked into the bathroom with my pipe and spice, And Just looked in the mirror for a little bit, I was getting ready to actually Smoke a bowl, But I stood there and thought about my Fiance and my son for a little bit, and Had the Revelation that this stuff is essentially poisen and the Stay the heck away from it, Broke my pipe and flushed my spice right there and jumped online The whole Time just thinking "Holy crum, Am I passing out? Am I dying? Is this it? Did I f*** up this bad?" And I ended up here, And I have been lurking since then. Not a Single Relapse yet, And it is now day three, Went into the E.R. Last night just cause I wanted to get an actual Docters opinion on everything, Didn't do anything much just "Lots of fluids and rest", To be honest thats what I have been doing to get through this, is reading all of your guy's stories and Reassuring myself that "I can do this, I can beat this" And Sleeping, ALOT. I am Actually Eating an Apple right now While Im typing this out in fact, First TRUE "solid" In three days, I had like, Two bits of Vegatable beef soup yesterday and it just Wasnt doing it for me… the thought of eating whas just, Unnattracting for some reason, Witch really freaked me out because i LOVE food normally, I eat constantly. No meds yet, Just treating it kind of like I have a super bad case of the flu. Im still a little bit in the fog, Im more Tiered than anything (I think?) Had some mild/moderate Tremors early this morning, But I just pretended I whas cold , Wrapped up in a blanket and they went away. Definatly Getting the Night sweats and Nightmares and what not though, And I REALLY hate that Worse than the Vommiting (Havent been in the bathroom since yesterday morning woohoo!), I just really want to thank Addiction Blog for having this Forum. And All of you for posting in it, I couldn't have done this without reading your stories, And using them as support I really just, Finnaly coming down off of this
Hey I just read your blog you can do this and it is not going to stop over night. It has been 5 months since I smoked that stuff and I still get withdrawls symptons like being aggressive mood swings etc …but they are NOOOOO were near as bad. You will be eating normal in about 2more weeks maybe less. Do you wana email me so we can talk and I can give you tips ? Or call? TROUBLED TEEN
I want to add to my story that I smoked about 20 blunts of spice everyday all day for two years didnt miss a day. This is my 5 month now and still spiceless again I stopped with no meds …I can eat on my own again and sleep on my own again . The problem is it hasnt really gone away for me I still get BODY urges to get that spice high but mentally I dnt want it. They are really dull and strike alot I barely notice them because I know how to deal and I have certain methods to staying busy …weed helps me too but doesnt get me high as spice but I use it sometimes help ….I called a center and because I smoked for 2 years it could take just that.long for them dull urhes nd mood swings to go away completely but since I havnt smoked in so long nd have no desire too they gave me natural ways to deal with it nd said 5 months is very good for you keep it up ….so I know were you are and believe me its gonna get better anyone need to talk or just need tips ask me
This is my first day off spice n need someone to talk to thats been n my shoes cause the sweats n the withdrawls r killin me…..what can I do to help ease these systems cause im goig to quit but withdrawls r killin me
UPDATE: I made it! After a month and a half, I am clean. Almost relapsed twice, so close that I had it in my hand. I am eating a LOT, sleeping from 9pm all the way to 11am if I'm able to sleep in without waking up once. When I would wake up I would be able to fall back to sleep no problem! Cravings lasted the longest, but now I no longer even think of it, not even once. I spend my extra money on gas, food :D. The path was not easy and I did it without being admitted into anything or taking any pills. It is possible but it wont be easy by any means. If you need help n someone to talk too feel free. Ive been through it multiple times n finally got there. Dont give up
UPDATE: Thought I whas coming down off that stuff, Turns out I wasn't, Ended up in the hospitol THAT day, and stayed for about 3 days because I had a Small(ish) stroke, Doctors said It whas Definatly Caused by the spice/withdrawl , Thank god there whas no Serious long term Damage, I have Glasses With Bi-Focals now because my Vision Whas Seriously Hindered by it. Other then that Im alright, But that whas the scariest thing I have ever went through. During my Stay at the hospitol and coming home I started Experince Symptoms of the withdrawl Again, Completely HORRID this time, Woke up yestererday though (The 18th) with No symptoms what-so-ever, Hungry as Hell and Felt Like I saw the World completely Different then before, This Expereince Definatly gave me a new-found respect for life in general. Stay Strong and Get support, And be careful EVEN when withdrawling Because it's Dangerious somtimes, But it can be done, This stuff is literally "The Devils Weed" and it WILL kill you Eventually. If you need support, Somone to talk to, or Want to ask any questions about your withdrawl symptoms or anything go ahead and ping me.
hello…..i need someones help my husband started smoking that spice for about one month and a half ago about everyday non stop every 20 min he would smoke it and he decided to get off it….cold turkey here in our house. Now its been a week since he stopped smoking and we have both been going through HELL!!!!…and honestly i even get scared because i dont know how to help him…..and he doesnt want to go to any hospital or doctor…..now it started with day 2 when he started vomiting and sweating like crazy we thought it was probably a stomach virus cause we really didnt think this so called k2 had withdrawls we were new to this……Day 3 the sweating keeps on but the vomiting stops and now loss of appetite, getting mad and angry withso much rage with any lil thing that bothers him, sleepless and anxious…..Day 4 eating and sleeping a lil bit still irritated by everything but now he starts with depression often crying depressed and he begins to sweat from his hands and feet first then his whole body and then the panic attacks crawl in and i cant control him for about 5 min then the hallucinations come in and verylil sleep and just crying…..day 5th the same except less hallucinations eating more sleeping like 3 hrs but still panic attacks get to him and im scared… how long will this all last? will it go away? or will he stay like that? i need some answers because its driving me crazy that he asks me if he will stay like that forever and i cant respond to him because i dont know plz help…..anyone????
Hey kaycee I read your blog. Please go back down and look for my name and story. The vomiting should go away in about a week or so.
I have went three days now without smoking I experienced severe vomiting of bile each of those days and now day four I am not vomiting but I still can't stop going to the bathroom. I really want to quit I just don't know where to begin last time I quit for two months cold turkey no withdrawl nothing now I have only been smoking it again for a month and can't seem to shake the habit. I smoke because I am bored and my options are limited for occupying time as I am " not allowed " out of the house my husband said. He doesn't want me out of the house because he doesn't want me to smoke but staying in the house is making me more crazy. When I first started reading I was still set on going to buy some this morning but as I kept reading I thought mayb if I talk to somebody daily for a little while who understands exactly how I feel it might help please I am desperate I can't seek any other treatment I have no other support.
Gone through my withdrawals 'n been fine for a good month 'n a half+. It is hell going through it, but its doable. Before, i kept thinking it would never end but it has and I'm no longer a slave. I"m willing to help and trust me, talking helps.
Hey, got a question for addiction blog here, I quit smoking spice about 3 weeks ago, And Here is how it went, The first week I had horrible symptoms. Second week, I experienced NO symptoms. Now, it's week three and I have racing heart, things generally feel weird, not sleeping at all, tiny tingling sensations all over my body, I feel really hot, yawning constantly, craving water, diarrhea….IS that kind of a pattern normal? I smoked the stuff like, once a month for a month or two, then before I went Abstinent I had smoked once a night for four days. I was smoking this stuff called "Ripped", witch I did twice, "Mad hatter" I had done the months before, but I smoked this stuff in an orange package called "Scooby Snax". That's what I smoked the four days actually. Also about a week ago I had a friend come over and she used one of the pipes I had used to smoke spice out of to smoke Standered weed from. She offered some to me, I just tried to pretend to smoke it and inhaled a little bit….Am I ok? When will this end? Is the still withdraws or something else? Did I get that stuff in my system again…Also just recently started shaking badly. please respond
I'm 18 years old smoking this k2 for about a year now. I have not took a hit since 3:00 this morning, not wanting it cause my chest feels like its going to cave in, the smell of it makes me wanna throw up. I have extreme tempeture changes from hot to cold in a matter of seconds. I have not been able to sleep..
Any advice?
Please help!
I have been smoking spice for 7 years upwards to 5-10 grams a day. I just recently quit 2 days ago. I have all the symptoms of a spice withdraw, and there actually is a substance you can take to pretty much negate the detox…BENZOS (Xanax, Valium, Clonopin). Anxiety medications helps treat the both mental and physical withdrawal symptoms almost 100%. You're welcome!
I have been smoking spice for two years now, every day. The past six months, I have been going through 4 grams a day. I am so scared to go thru the withdrawals again. I did it once before bit can't seem to shake it. Anybody have tips/advice?
My little brother has been smoking spice. From what I see all over the internet there are several different forms. He has been sober and living with our mother for about a year now but recently she noticed changes and searched his room and found empty containers of spice. He completely changed in a day according to my mom. Tonight he snuck out and within minutes of returning she found him in the bathroom throwing up complaining of stomach pain also sweating. She rushed him to the ER, which is a no good one in our town, they found marijuana in his system and sent him home. The symptoms came so quickly and we can't help to think they are drug related or spice related. Would an ER or doctor be able to detect spice in ones blood or urine being it is not a narcotic. If he has been smoking marijuana instead of spice would he still have withdrawals from spice?
Hi I need some help my bf has been smoking spice and other legal highs he's trying to give up he hasn't smoked since last friday now but he's unsure of the side affects … He's got chest pains like he's having a heart attack , pains in his arms , difficulties breathing when laying down , coughing up vile smelly mucus and back pains and also sicking blood he's scared he's going to die or get some sort of organ failure he feels like he's dieing are these normal withdrawal symptoms ?? Some one pls help me understand so I can help him .
Hey guys,
I am on my 5th day of not smoking and just can honestly say that the withdrawals this time around have been very mild. I got the chest pains and not eating/sleeping but I thank God that's it this time so far. Some things that help are to have a support system. My boyfriend has been the biggest help through all this and if it weren't for him, I would probably be dead from this devils weed. My anti anxiety/depressants have been helping a lot as well, they don't take away the anxiety 100% since it is stronger now but it does help a lot. I hate to say it but w**d helps as well. I would pack a bowl and take a hit even I started to feel the withdrawals coming and I instantly feel better. Doesn't help with the loss of appetite, I still can't eat normally but am forcing myself to eat at least soup or a small sandwich. It is doable and I pray that all of you have successfully stories as well. If you are smoking spice, please stop now!!! I cannot stress how much these chemical sprayed leaves f*** your life up. Spice took me to hell and back and I survived to tell my story so hopefully it helps someone. When I get cravings, I come on here and read or reread some of your stories and they instantly go away. Thanks to you all, stay strong and God bless.
Everybody. The symptoms will stop. I've kicked spice a few times in the last 5 years. The last time I only smoked it for about 2 months but all day all night. When I quit it layer 9 days of no sleep freaking out losing it. Sweats, cold sweats shaking. After I started getting sleep little by little it took another like 4 wells to feel mentally better. Still wasn't back to normal yet. Here we are about 3 1/2 months later and I'm ok. Weird tho because there's a look tweek in my personality and mood now that I can't get rid of. Like SNAP. But everybody I suggest making your loved ones or you go to a Dr and tell them the truth and don't worry about your pride or wtfever . just go! Get water pumped into your body. Get sleeping pills maybe. Smoke marijuana! I didn't because I couldn't, I mean don't that why were smoking fake crap anyway… Do it. It's better than that bunk ish that's meeting your health up. Just blaze. I am now. F a job. Stay happy. Good luck everybody. Hmu if u would like my help.
I. Hate. This. Sh*t. So.. Here's my story- my husband and I started smoking this sh*t a couple years ago. This past December we decided to stop. We had to- I couldn't go upstairs without weezing, I had nasty black mucus, plus I felt crazy!! So we were super broke from this junk, good time to stop! We didn't really know what we were getting into when we stopped. My husband ended up in the ER. I didn't want to go.. But i sure felt awful! So every time I felt nauseas I'd scrape some resin and that helped! I was off that sh*t within a few days. Then this past May my husband gave a friend a ride who left a small bag of weed in the car. So of course we smoked it.. Kept buying it here n there. But then the dude went on vacation so we couldn't purchase. So my dear husband bought a bag of spice. At first I KNEW it was a bad idea but we both agreed that we wouldn't get any more after that.. Ha! Ya right! Well now I'm on day 2 of detoxing. My husband detoxed 2 weeks ago. Ended up in the hospital overnight. I couldn't stop cuz I have a 3 year old and there's NO WAY I could take care of him and kick this thing.. So I told my husband if ween myself off.. I'm not sure if it helped.. Maybe slightly cuz after reading how bad everyone's withdrawals were I thought I was "lucky" (kinda.. I mean it was still shitty!) so my husband bought me a bag n said "make it last cuz I can't get anymore" which I understood.. So my last bad was Green Giant. It's worked for me many times but apparently this bag was CR*P. If smoke and then 20 min later I'd have to do it again cuz if feel sick. So finally I ran out and here I am, day 2 like I mentioned. Yesterday I was nauseas ALL DAY, couldn't eat, sleep, and had the hot/cold flashes. I got to the point where I had to figure SOMETHING out. I took a long shower and just sat on the floor of the tub and that made me feel PERFECT (until I got out..) I then tried to think of what I did the first time I detoxed so i did the resin thing again and I really think that works! Today I still feel a little cr*ppy but I've gotten sleep, eaten a little bit.. And the nausea is on and off (thank god!) I only threw up one time this morning. I hope tomorrow I'll feel even better! Maybe even no more withdrawals… That would be Great! Oh and I haven't smoked any resin since last night before bed (I strangely feel proud of myself). I hope I never ever ever ever touch this sh*t again! I can't say I won't… I mean relapses happen but you gotta take one day at a time and build up that willpower! Remember the HELL u when through to kick this trash and hopefully never have it again. Smoking it once is already too much! People need to be more educated about this stuff and it really really needs to be illegal! My husband told me that several people have died recently in NH cuz of a bad batch. That's some scary sh*t!!! Pleaseeee stop smoking this!! It WILL ruin your life. Thanks for reading my story stay safe!
I stop smoking spice 3 days ago what can I expect for next couple weeks
What should I expect after stop smoking spice
I need help I stoppedsmoking spice 3 days
This is for Gary …. please whatever you do try not to give in and feed it because you will be awakening the beast again. Everyone is different but some things to expect is not sleeping normally loss of appetite mood swings ….also how long were you smoking?
Why did anyone ever make this stuff anyway? Its evil shit. k2 ought to stand for kill u too. why dint they make weed legal and keep this k2 off the streets and away from everyone else. (This shit almost destroyed my familly). but i had the willpower ti see the evil effects of this shit.
Katey this is for you. this is jeff. throw it away get rid of everything that is k2. the real weed is the only thing that helped the nausea. k2 is some evil shit
please throw it away and leave it alone.. for you and your famillys sake. the evils of weed are much less. (God made weed man made k2). Who are you going to trust.
This is my 2nd and by far most painful/difficult detox from synthetic weed ever. I had gotten to the point of smoking about 5grams of the potent blend daily. Had got to the point where I had to smoke every 3 hours or I was sick, weak, numb feeling. I got to the point where I was taking this shit to work with me to smoke so I could make it to end of day. Well I decided enough was enough and even got a little reg weed to help with the detox. I took my last hit of synthetic about midnight saturday night. Sweats and naseau kicked in about an hour after my last hit, spent the entire night curled up in a ball sweating and freezing, not sleeping, pure agony. I tried to get into a bath with kicked off my vomitting so I returned back to my sweating naseau ball. I got some pedalite and started drinking as much as I could on day 1. I was able to force feed a piece of an apple and 2 crackers that day. I felt so weak, limbs numb, dizzy, cloudy, anxious, sick. I was just hoping id be able to make it to work on monday! No chance in hell did that happen. I made it through day one feeling like I was going to die at any second. Day 2 I call into work because Im still having diahrea and feel extremely light headed, confused, dizzy, sick, does not feel like any relief will be coming any time soon. I started drinking chicken broth and eating a noodle or two of chicken noodle soup, had to force feed myself and it would take about an hour to finish the broth. Let me tell you that minutes feel like hours right now and hours feel like days. I sat around sick and shaking and sweating and weak all of day 2 and into day 3, Day 3 I am still unable to walk or function properly, not vomitting today but still diaherria and no appetite, very weak, nautious. At noon on day 3 I decided to have a friend take me to the ER. I was admitted and treated for severe dehydration and virus gastroenteritis. I was in the hospital until that night and released, I ate a can of chicken soup and layed down and actually slept a few hours. Day 4 is here now and I was really hoping that I would wake up with some energy, or an appetite, no dice. Im still nautious, weak, not able to do any kind of manual labor, I cannot work again today. I stay home drink lots of water manage to eat a sandwich and some crackers too, praying the next day will be better, I take a sleeping aid this night, still nautious, still extremely weak. Morning of day 5, I still feel very bad, im forcing myself to go into work today. I work for 6 hours and have to go home because im having trouble standing and walking around, just not enough energy to make it happen. I eat two sandwiches today and some soup, and with the help of a little reggie I sleep the night through. Day 6 here we go, I wake up still feeling very weak but maybe a little better than yesterday. Make myself get up and goto work. I get to work feeling incredible weak and a new symptom, my muscles are all stiff today, its very difficult typing this right now. I work for 2 hours on day 6 (today) and go home to take a very long lunch break. Here I am right now on day 6 and as I type this right now, I dont have naseau pain, im still very weak but stronger than ive been since the start, i think im dehydrated again and thats why im still feeling so weak and my muscles are so still. I also have a lot of numbness, pins and needles feelings in all my limbs. I am grateful for the 3 day weekend ahead and pray that by next monday, I can function at some level. This is the hardest most painful uncomfortable experience ive had to go through. If you are considering stopping the use of synthetic, do it right this second.
Hi Nisha. Well, i have smoked spice for almost a year i finally decided to stop 2 weeks ago. I went through the consent, throwing up and sh*t. It's September 1 and i am now able to eat and have normal bowl movement. I am never going to that sh*t again its not worth it!
If there anyone smoking spice please stop!!!
My son is addicted to spice. I'm trying to get him to get help but he says no he says he can wean himself off and begs everyone for money to go buy more. When no one gives him mine he gets so angry it's hard to be around him. I know he needs help but every place I have called says he has to contact them before they can help. He has no job and no insurance. Is there any way I can get him the help he needs without his consent . I'm desperate .i want to help him before he hurts hisself or someone else.he has already started stealing to get this mess.please help us.
step 1: is to admit problem and want better for you. step 2……….? iv done step 1 and would like for step 2 to kick in an stop this nightmare but cant. iv been on day 3 for little over a month now and im not winning this fight as so many people keep talking about. im hurting, im sick, tired…. Point Blank Im WEAK ! i have a bag coming right now because i cant break the chains of this poison. i get to the point where im on the floor in the house and in the cars picking up what i can find on the floor just to make the pain go away. Im on step 1 and yet im not sure i can pull my self up to the next step with out falling back 100 steps. all it takes is that one hit and its like everthing is back in place. all the pain is gone ~ just chillen~ But then there it is again…. At my front door banging to come in. Demanding for me to open up and take a hit Step 1: is to admit a problem and want better for yourself. Step 2: get away from contact with it, and ways to smoke it. If u really want to quit, then if u have it flush it…….. Easy right?
I only used spice for three and half months if that and have recently stopped, I don't think about it at all but my body must be because I have no appetite but every so often, I feel better when I take Ibuprofen. I have had several panic attacks and just really want to know if anyone can give me any ideas on help, I am on day three of my withdrawls if that is what I am having, anyone have any advice?
@help <my advice to you, hang in there, drink soups, try and get down whatever you can, stay hydrated!!!
I had spice for the first time in my life and I regretted it I'm not a casual smoker I don't smoke at all I just tried this for my first time and I felt like dying literally dying I felt that I'm separating from my body at a point my friends would wake me up and treat me with ice cold water and ice tea but I couldn't shake it off , fighting it was the worst part I couldn't fight it , I maybe freaked out but it was so scary.
So please if you could answer my questions:
1. I woke up the next day and I'm slightly dizzy how can i shake the dizziness off and remove it from mybody (spice)
2. Will I be addicted to it from the first time in my life please let me know what I should expect because I haven't ever smoked in my life
This stuff is pure evil !!! I turned to it cause marijuana is still illegal here and if I got poped with a drug screen I wouldn't have THC in my system . Its been banned here a few times and I am relieved . but always comes back with a different compound added or subtracted . This is my 4th day without any . I'm trying to blow off my constant sweating as " early menopause " so no one questions why my scrubbs are staying soaked at work . I'm 37 !! If the government would just open their eyes they would know instead of letting individual retailers make millions off this shit and just leagaliz pot THEY would be making that millions instead . if seen the owner of Ziggy's Smoke Shop in Oklahoma build and remodel ALL 7 of their locations from the profits they are making off this . Iv even wrote called and emailed local news stations to get ppl aware of it to no avail . This is the last time for me . I just got $1,000 pay check and I'm 50 yards from the smoke shop . please God give me the strength to NOT go over there . I'm not ready to die . And this stuff is killing me …. Hurry up day 5 !
WD is no fun! hot and cold sweats, puke and reah at the same time. take a bucket to the toilet with you. You will be filling both pots at the same time. The way I came off of spice was slowly. I used to smoke every hour, but then started only smoking a half bowl every hour, then every two hours. I did this for about 3 days. on the 4th day I somoked nothing diarrhea and vomit all day. 5th day had night sweats and stomach cramping. 6th day was the start of repairing the body of 5days of WD. It took about another 5 days to be able to eat a full meal and about 10 days to feel symptom free
Hi everybody this is me going on my second day without and spice and its getting better my symptoms were no sleep no hunger I feel cold yet sweat haven't thrown up but I think its coming im a teen barly in my 16 have a whole life ahead I can let this horrible drugg screw me we can do it we just have to be strong and fight it
What is the best thing to do about the stomach pains
Bennie …. Soup . You have to make yourself eat and stay hydrated . I have been clean since October . it took a 2 weeks for all my symptoms to go away . Last week I was moving out of my house and found a full unopened pouch hidden under my mattress . For a split second I wanted to smoke it . Instead I went to the bathroom and flushed it . The WD is hard but totally worth it if you can hang in there . Chicken Rice Soup was my crutch for days . Just make yourself eat .


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|Ok I've had my stackable worm bin about 4 weeks now, I only have the bottom bin and one other at the moment, I have a soil thermometer and a ph meter in the bin and temp etc are all fine. I started feeding the worms about 2 weeks ago after their feed stuff that came with them ran out. I have a bin in the kitchen which gets veg, fruit, tea bags, egg shells etc and when it's full I put it through the blender and it makes a nice moist paste like substance. I was just wondering though if I'm maybe cutting the food up too much? Should I just cut it up into small pieces with a knife and put into the bin this way?
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|I myself am new at this but I think it's up to you how you choose to feed them. Like you mentioned, some do blend their food scraps, others just cut it in small pieces so it will break down quickly.
It depends on how quickly you want them to get to that food and process it. When it's smaller it breaks down faster so they eat it faster.
I myself don't want to take the time to blend the food and then have to clean the blender (if you do blend don't add any liquids as the food scraps contain enough water themselves). I have just been cutting some of the bigger pieces down, and things like lettuce I give a good squeeze if it's still pretty crisp to break it down faster. I just like to be sure I have some things that are really ready to process & that others are fresher and will be ready when the others are gone. My bedding in my bin is also starting to break down and they have started working on that as well, so now if I don't get them just enough food the bedding will feed them too.
I had thoughts too of doing the slurry thing, but after reading hear and finding out some have had trouble with it clumping up in the bedding, etc. plus the extra work involved ..no thanks.
Have fun!
|I used to food process my worm food into a slurry. I would pour it in to the bin and all was fine. Then, one day, I opened the bin to see how everyone was doing. I gave a quick stir of the compost with my hand and racked through one of the piles of slurry. It was FILLED with mold. It was dry and powdery and terrible. Since then, I have not food processed their food. It does take a lot of extra work and really not needed. You can continue to make the "smoothie" (as an earlier poster called it), but when you add, be sure to mix it all in the compost so there aren't any pockets of goo.
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Age of Conan's next expansion, Rise of the Godslayer. Xfire has hosted a sneak peek live broadcast hosted by game director Craig Morrison and lead expansion designer Joel Bylos, and the two have shown off some of the inner workings of the expansion, including some of the changes and additions players will find.
We here at Massively were watching closely and taking notes, so if you didn't get the chance to watch the video then no worries! As we said before, we have your back and we're ready to take you headlong into the blood and corruption of Age of Conan's expansion.
Obvious things first -- the play field of today's preview was huge. The single province of Khitai shown today is a wide, sprawling area that includes environmental changes, multiple cities, and indoor/outdoor areas all without a single load screen in sight. Even the open areas will undergo environmental changes, such as the colors of the sky changing along with weather effects, to show a delineation between areas in the play field. For example, the marshes will become thick with fog and darker the deeper you get into them. One of the main things the team wanted to accomplish was to provide more open areas for players to roam around in, and if this province is any example of the other areas in the expansion then Age of Conan players will have many wide-open areas to look forward to.
To travel the lands of Khitai, the developers used the new tiger mount today. While there's not much to say about the mount other than it's a pretty tiger and it can roar on command, the questline for getting the mount is quite involved. Players will be involved in training the mount from a cub all the way up to adulthood thanks to a string of quests involving the mount itself.
Monster AI is also another focus of the expansion, as the developers wanted to keep encounters fresh and different instead of just becoming another set of slugfests with new monsters. Today's preview showed off multiple new enemies, such as the firebirds that run away from melee players until they're tapped by a ranged attack (which makes the rest of the flock stick their heads in the ground, leaving them open for melee players), water buffalo that remain neutral until one of their cubs are attacked, wolves that attack with a pack mentality, and monsters that attempt to ambush players.
Topping all of this off was the battlefield that rages onwards in the heart of today's play field. Two factions, the Tamarain Tigers and the Scholars of Cheng'ho, constantly fight in a war-torn area of the province. Players will be able to join a side of the battle and fight against the other faction's NPCs and players in order to rank up with the faction and get special equipment, armor, and other benefits. Of course this means tanking your reputation with the other side, much like a Scryers/Aldor approach from World of Warcraft.
Lastly, exploration nuts can cheer happily thanks to the addition of shrines and dig sites. Dig sites are new patches of dirt that denote areas where players can dig with shovels to uncover quests and items, while shrines are a bit more of an esoteric achievement. The shrines of Khitai are both found in cities and hidden away in the far reaches of the play field. Players who know their lore or do a little bit of experimentation can honor the gods of the shrine with the right emotes, giving them a temporary buff from the gods. Do the wrong emote, however, and you'll find your character cursed and debuffed for being ignorant.
All in all, Khitai seems very different from the Age of Conan we know and love today. So far the changes look quite positive for the game, but only time will tell how much the team has learned from their prior mistakes.
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Posted: Dec 8th 2009 10:40AM kooda said
They need to re-name this i keep reading it as 'Rise of the Goldseller' i loved age of conan it was an amazing game but im already paying for 2 MMO's now :|
Posted: Dec 26th 2009 11:02AM (Unverified) said
I'd been excited for the game since before release, but never able to play it because I never had the machine for it, hopefully by this release i'll be able to play, and at this point I think i'm glad I waited, the new improvements look to be making quite a difference, and it looks like they're learning from their mistakes.
Lets see how it works out
Lets see how it works out
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Saatchi & Saatchi: Home of Creativity, JC Penney and Bed Bugs
A tipster sends us a memo this morning claiming the 17th floor of Saatchi & Saatchi will be closed as of 7pm this evening so exterminators can come in and debug the place. Literally.
"Our testing shows that the insect condition is limited to the 17th Floor. We will continue to test other floors on an ongoing basis and react accordingly.
As is normal procedure, the second phase of the eradication process will commence at 8pm Friday night and will take approximately 6 hours. Normal environmental conditions will not exist until Saturday noon. Please do not plan to work on the 17th Floor until after 12pm (Saturday).
Everyone on the 17th Floor must vacate the floor by 7pm Friday night. All accessible switchplates and outlet covers will be removed during the day (Friday). In 14 days, we will re-treat the entire 17th Floor to be doubly sure that conditions are 100% satisfactory.
All chemicals used are DEA and EPA registered and approved. If you have any health concerns, feel free to work from home tomorrow. In reference to the bedbugs outbreak."
But how could an ad agency become infested with such critters? The tipster suggests a recent outfitting of the 17th floor in JC Penney gear may be to blame.
"Notable is the new JCPenney outfitted lounge they installed on the same floor in the free space from all the people they laid off," says the spy.
Don't worry about the bed bugs — they're resilient creatures who like to leave poop smears on things they inhabit, like clothing and chairs and sofas and your skin. Sorry, does that make it worse or better? Take the day off kids, your company just pooped on you. But at least it was in the real sense and not the "Saatchi just fired my ass" metaphorical sense.
Update: A source very close to the matter (but hopefully not so close he/she is bedbugged, assures me the bugs were there before JC Penney. We're awaiting further verification.
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United Way surpasses fundraising goal
Rochester, N.Y. -- The United Way of Rochester passed its campaign goal for 2014, thanks to the generosity of the local community.
United Way set a goal of $25.5 million earlier this year and was able to raise a few thousand dollars beyond that mark.
Donors were honored at a campaign event Thursday morning.
United Way is currently in the second year of a three-year funding cycle as part of the organization's Blueprint for Change.
Last year, $26,640,254 was raised.


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and i think paulee is too weak to enter the crew.. >>> francky will (or kaku, but that's another story ^^")
and i think paulee is too weak to enter the crew.. >>> francky will (or kaku, but that's another story ^^")
but if you used that to predict who fights who, then im slightly surprised.
franky can join the crew as anything, i dont care, but hes too awesome to be a side character.
Edit: paulie's cool, i just reckon something tragic'll happen. concerning the huge hole beneath the island.
there are two good points for franky to join luffy. Like it was said before at the beginning of on of the latest chapters he is shown as one of the crew plus oda allways tells the story of the character before he fully joins the crew (which by franky he did). I still hope that paulie joins caus ehe i so cooler than franky plus he would be like the opposite of sanji, remember when nami was showing her legs, man that would be so funny having them on the same ship
franky is cool i hope he joins the straw hat pirates
i totaly agree w/ schiljo. i waas about to post that untill i read his. what would be cool, is if 'sogeking could help frankie with his weakness,his back, because he was good enough with tool to make an awsome weapon for nami lond long ago.
I wouldn't say Oda always show the story of a character for they join the Mugiwaras. We knew practically NOTHING of Robin's past, other than that she was a wanted person by the Marines, before she joined them.Originally Posted by Schiljo
but wouldnt the story be kind of like Tom's. tom build a ship but didnt join gol roger, therefore franky will build the straw hats a ship but he will not join.
i personally wish that kaku would join, he seems to be a nice guy so far and doesnt like what lucci is doing (i believe). maybe the straw hats would change his mind (just like wut they did with robin), they might make them realized that u dont have to in the marine inorder to be a good guy or sumthing like that (thats just random idea so dont start debating about that point). n if u ask y in the world would kaku would join the straw hats, well answer y in the world would paulie/franky/ice berge join teh straw hats as well (at this point they also have no reason to join them just like kaku)
I might have missed it but what did Franky do with the 200,000,000 million he stole.? He might of used it on a ship that the straw hats will use.
i think tooOriginally Posted by Tribal2199
he must have used it and finished his last and ultimate battle fancky
skrymir remember nami her story was also told to us during the arlong whopass, so i think like with nami it will also be with robin that during this fight we will get to know her background


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African leaders on Monday offered Laurent Gbagbo one last chance to accept an amnesty deal on condition he immediately cede power to the internationally recognized winner of Ivory Coast's presidential election or face a military ouster.
They left hours later with no clear answer from the renegade president who has defied calls to step down, even though results tallied by the country's electoral commission and certified by the United Nations showed he had lost by a landslide to opposition leader Alassane Ouattara.
The trip is the second in less than a week by the three African presidents on behalf of the 15-member Economic Community of West African States, or ECOWAS, in an attempt to give persuasion a final chance before resorting to military force. This time the leaders of Sierra Leone, Benin and Cape Verde were joined by Kenyan Prime Minister Raila Odinga, representing the African Union, as they shuttled between meetings with Mr. Gbagbo and Mr. Ouattara.
Even as Mr. Gbagbo's meeting with the African leaders was going on, his closest advisers continued to insist that the 65-year-old had won the election, indicating that the sitting president did not intend to budge.
Speaking to reporters after meeting with the African leaders, Mr. Ouattara told reporters that the dialogue was over.
"For us, the discussion is finished," said Mr. Ouattara. "Everything has been done so that we could find a solution through diplomacy and dialogue. Since that is not the case, perhaps Laurent Gbagbo will have a change of heart in coming hours? If not, then ECOWAS will need to use all the means at its disposal including the use of legitimate force so that the president that was elected can assume his functions."
He added that an amnesty deal was still in the realm of possibility, but only if Mr. Gbagbo recognizes defeat. "He needs to recognize the results of the election, renounce the powers he has usurped and leave for the sake of all Ivorians."
Despite increasing international pressure including a visa ban slapped on him last month by the European Union, Mr. Gbagbo has continued to cling to power with the backing of the army. Human rights groups accuse his security forces of abducting and killing hundreds of political opponents and the U.N. was barred entry from a building believed to be housing 60 to 80 of the bodies.
Although recognized internationally, at home Mr. Ouattara has been shut out of the institutions of power. He is attempting to govern from a hotel in Abidjan where he and his staff are barricaded behind sandbags and giant coils of razor wire. He is under the constant protection of United Nations peacekeepers, but Mr. Gbagbo's security forces have set up checkpoints on the roads leading to the hotel, barring anyone from entering or exiting.
In recent weeks, getting supplies to the Golf Hotel has become increasingly difficult, and the U.N. started running daily helicopter flights that land on the hotel's lawn ferrying cartons of vegetables and tins of powdered milk.
In Washington, U.S. officials said they remain willing to help Mr. Gbagbo make a "dignified exit," including revisiting the visa ban so he can travel to the United States and take up a possible teaching position, but only if he agrees to step down. They said the window of opportunity for that, however, is rapidly closing.
"We hope that President Gbagbo will listen intently to the message that he needs to step down," U.S. State Department spokesman P.J. Crowley said. "So far, he hasn't. But we certainly endorse what ECOWAS is trying to do today."
An official from Mr. Odinga's office said the Ivorian leader would be guaranteed safety if he agrees to hand over power.
After leaving Ivory Coast late Monday, the African leaders were heading to Nigeria, whose president, Goodluck Jonathan, is the current chairman of ECOWAS, to discuss the next step. Mr. Odinga said the African leaders will be making "a comprehensive statement" on their mission after consulting with Jonathan on Tuesday.
Col. Mohammed Yerima, a Nigerian military spokesman, said defence chiefs from ECOWAS member states had met last week to begin strategizing what sort of assault they would use if talks fail.
President Barack Obama tried to call Mr. Gbagbo three times last month, including twice from Air Force One. He did not reach Mr. Gbagbo and at one point, Mr. Obama was told that Mr. Gbagbo was 'resting.' Administration officials believe the Ivorian leader sought to avoid contact. So Mr. Obama wrote to Mr. Gbagbo a letter, offering him an international role if he stepped down.
Mr. Obama also made clear, however, that the longer Mr. Gbagbo holds on, and the more complicit he becomes in violence across the country, the more limited his options become, said a senior administration official who requested anonymity to speak about administration strategy.
Mr. Gbagbo, who came to power in 2000 and ruled during the civil war that erupted two years later, overstayed his legal term which expired in 2005, claiming the country was too unstable to organize a poll. The election was rescheduled at least six times before it was finally held in October. During the campaign, one of the slogans of Mr. Gbagbo's party's was, "Either we win. Or we win." Some have taken that to mean he never intended to step down, regardless of the results.
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Children will enjoy dressing up in 17th century costumes, as well as the festive decorations and illuminations hung specifically for the holiday. You'll have an opportunity to purchase a light meal (not included) at the castle's gourmet restaurant (l'Ecureuil). The days are short in December so you'll return to Paris early evening.
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Results of a recent Westfield Stakeholder survey conducted on March 4 - 6 stated, "Westfield residents are ready and excited to make the necessary changes to improve their downtown." These stakeholders identified many considerations on the path to economic and development transformation, one of which is the incorporation of Westfield State College student housing and classes as an integral part of the process.
The Westfield Chamber of Commerce would like to voice its support for the inclusion of Westfield State College as part of the formula that will lead to downtown success. Westfield State's need to increase its student housing by potentially moving students and some classes to downtown can serve as one of the catalysts for re-development of the whole downtown. The idea of creating 'communiversity,' the current term for partnerships between universities and their home cities, works well for both parties by providing an economic engine for the city and enabling the college to expand its learning opportunities beyond the classroom through internships and volunteer work, that by definition engages the community.
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The Charlotte Catholic girls swim team not only won 12 straight state titles in a row, but it also dominated the competition for most of that unprecedented span.
Coming into this season, the question was could the Cougars win No. 13 at the highest level, as they moved up to N.C. High School Athletic Association 4A for the first time.
Coach Brian Gross and the Cougars didnt miss a beat, beating out two-time defending state champion Hough by 52 points to claim their 13th straight title, and the first at the 4A level.
While Gross, the Observer and Mecklenburg coach of the year, put together another championship lineup, Catholic junior Nora McCullagh, who repeats as Observer and Mecklenburg swimmer of the year, had another state meet for the ages.
McCullagh, a major Division I recruit, was named the state meets most outstanding swimmer for the second year in a row, breaking state records in winning the 50 freestyle (22.88 seconds) and the 100 backstroke (53.95). McCullagh also anchored the 200 and 400 freestyle relay state championship teams that also set state records in both events.
Pine Lake Prep sophomore Alyssa Marsh is the Observer regional swimmer of the year after winning state championships in the 100 butterfly and the 100 backstroke, earning the 1A/2A state championships most outstanding swimmer.
Marsh also had a record-breaking meet, setting the state record (all-class) in the 100 butterfly (53.72), while breaking the 1A/2A mark in the backstroke (54.86).
Marvin Ridges Melissa King-Pierce earned the Observer regional coach of the year honor after leading her team to a 3A state championship by 75 points over Chapel Hill.
On the boys side, Charlotte Latins Patty Waldron takes home Observer and Mecklenburg Coach of the Year honors after guiding the Hawks to their second straight N.C. Independent School Athletic Association 3A championship in a row.
Marvin Ridges King-Pierce doubles as Observer Regional Coach of the Year after leading the boys team to a third-place state finish and a 3A West Regional title, where the Mavericks were 277 points better than second-place North Lincoln.
Rock Hill Northwestern Highs Riley League is the Observer and Regional Swimmer of the Year after winning AAAA state titles in the 200 individual medley and 100 breaststroke, setting a state record in the latter at 57.82 seconds.
League, a Davidson signee, also is a straight-A student and owns 10 of the 11 school records at Northwestern.
Ardrey Kell junior Connor Long is the Observer Mecklenburg Swimmer of the Year honors.
Long showed his versatility by tying for state runner-up and finishing third at the 4A meet in the 100 butterfly, while also leading the 200 freestyle and 200 medley relay teams to third and fourth-place finishes at the meet.
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Human Capital:
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Pursuant to a congressional request, GAO surveyed employee pay and benefits at 12 aerospace contractors and compared them to broad compensation surveys conducted by the Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS) and the American Management Association (AMA).
GAO found that certain categories of employees in the aerospace industry have fared better than in the economy as a whole. GAO found that compensation for executive employees in the aerospace industry: (1) averaged 42-percent more than at comparably sized firms in other industries that were surveyed by AMA; and (2) accounted for less than 1 percent of aerospace contractors' total payroll costs. Compensation for professional employees in the industry: (1) averaged about 2.5-percent less than the national mean monthly salary for similar positions, as determined by BLS; and (2) accounted for the largest percentage of aerospace contractors' payroll costs. Compensation for clerical and technical employees: (1) averaged about 9-percent more than the mean monthly salary for comparable positions, as determined by BLS; and (2) accounted for from 10 to 20 percent of aerospace contractors' payroll costs. Compensation for factory workers in the industry: (1) averaged 8-percent more than the mean monthly salary for similar positions, as determined by BLS; and (2) accounted for from 5 to 40 percent of contractors' payroll costs. GAO also found that compensation in the aerospace industry increased at a greater rate from 1978 to 1983 than both the Consumer Price Index and the Employment Cost Index. In addition, GAO noted that the Department of Defense is taking steps to improve its ability to determine the reasonableness of labor costs on defense contracts.
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