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tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4430862590333307596.post2939833758948832058..comments2014-12-20T16:00:57.132-05:00Comments on The Kill Zone: What's wrong with 'genre' fiction?Joe Moorehttp://firstname.lastname@example.com:blogger.com,1999:blog-4430862590333307596.post-71414780890468883012014-04-29T10:00:53.317-04:002014-04-29T10:00:53.317-04:00Yes, there is a distinction between literary ficti...Yes, there is a distinction between literary fiction and genre fiction, but there should not be. I agree that writers must write what they are comfortable writing. A lot depends on what we read, as writers.

I read a lot of both genre and literary fiction. I like both. I don't think one is better than the other. The mistake people make in the "literary" world is to act as if what they do is somehow better than what John Grisham or Sue Grafton do. Ask any literary writer to write a series like Sue Grafton's and they'd freeze. It's not their style and to them it's very hard. BTW, I think the Man Booker Prize is over rated. Most of those books are tedious at best. Good literary writing need not be tedious. So Diana, I'd suggest putting the book down!

So, which is better? Neither. As a reader and and writer, I love them both! And, I'm glad there are good writers out there who find their voice in one or the other.

Thanks for the great post!JoanCurtishttp://firstname.lastname@example.com:blogger.com,1999:blog-4430862590333307596.post-37748903874127276932014-04-29T07:51:10.979-04:002014-04-29T07:51:10.979-04:00I enjoyed this post and the comments that followed...I enjoyed this post and the comments that followed, especially since I'm currently reading a literary novel, one that won the Man Booker Prize. What strikes me as I plow through it, is how much difficulty I'm having in hanging in with the author. I find his style perplexing at times, Though I admire his literary talent, I find I get lost in the storytelling, sometimes not knowing whose voice I'm following. It's a book I've wanted to put down a number of times, but since it won a prize, I wanted to see what the fuss was all about. Personally, I don't want to struggle when I read, no matter how beautiful the prose. Diana Stevanhttp://email@example.com:blogger.com,1999:blog-4430862590333307596.post-33436631754955516552014-04-28T21:55:54.733-04:002014-04-28T21:55:54.733-04:00As I read over the comments to Clare's post, I...As I read over the comments to Clare's post, I am struck by how defensive the tone is in most of them. What are people afraid of? Why so anxious to denounce "snobs" and wave the banner for genre fiction? If people know fiction, they know what's good and what's not. And they are also willing and able to acknowledge the strengths and limitations of different kinds of storytelling.
OK?Barry Knisterhttp://firstname.lastname@example.com:blogger.com,1999:blog-4430862590333307596.post-31301535045828292632014-04-28T20:54:46.826-04:002014-04-28T20:54:46.826-04:00Clare, I've often felt embarrassed to admit to...Clare, I've often felt embarrassed to admit to being a romance writer. Some of the writing groups I've attended make comments about genre fiction vs. literary and poetry, as if we who write genre lack something. Seeing this post and the comments have helped me understand some of the prejudice. I love to read, I've read some really good literary fiction and some not so good. I am character driven so shouldn't my southern-romantic-suspense be literary? Sherri Hollisterhttp://firstname.lastname@example.com:blogger.com,1999:blog-4430862590333307596.post-65241954767823142792014-04-28T20:06:11.246-04:002014-04-28T20:06:11.246-04:00I'm sure there must be some degree of jealousy...I'm sure there must be some degree of jealousy when certain genre writers make millions:) Then again, perhaps literary posterity is what some are aiming for...though, again, lots of genre writers get that too:)Clarehttp://email@example.com:blogger.com,1999:blog-4430862590333307596.post-43734773018503948512014-04-28T20:04:16.889-04:002014-04-28T20:04:16.889-04:00I think enjoying the best of both worlds is what I...I think enjoying the best of both worlds is what I enjoy most as a reader:)Clarehttp://firstname.lastname@example.com:blogger.com,1999:blog-4430862590333307596.post-42840038979401978912014-04-28T20:03:10.259-04:002014-04-28T20:03:10.259-04:00Chandler is a great example of why the genre vs li...Chandler is a great example of why the genre vs literary debate is crazy!Clarehttp://firstname.lastname@example.com:blogger.com,1999:blog-4430862590333307596.post-67065373102003048082014-04-28T19:20:51.717-04:002014-04-28T19:20:51.717-04:00disclaimer...Literary fiction has a very honorable...disclaimer...Literary fiction has a very honorable place alongside Genre fiction in my opinion. Those who act snobbish about the 'Literariness' of their work compared to blood and guts thrillers, imaginary sci-fi, or even gushy romance on the other hand are, in my experience, just jealous because folks really like the latter.Basil Sandshttp://firstname.lastname@example.com:blogger.com,1999:blog-4430862590333307596.post-10453473400925395652014-04-28T19:18:05.726-04:002014-04-28T19:18:05.726-04:00I think it behooves us to look into the etymology ...I think it behooves us to look into the etymology of the term 'Literary Fiction'

The term that has been translated to the word 'Literary' in regards to writing that is not 'Genre' or 'Commercial' is based upon a Chinese phrase:

嗚嗚愛哭賺不賺錢
(pron. - Wū wū ài kū zhuàn bù zhuànqián)

The phrase carries with it the sense of the communication of jealous discontent regarding the fact that in spite of the beauty of the writing, the poeticism of the piece, and the utter love the author has for their own written words...ain't nobody likely to be gonna buyin' that crap but yo momma and yo great aunt Rosey who smells like sweat and cheap perfume and will do anything to get a hug from you.

(translation of 嗚嗚愛哭賺不賺錢 is approximately "whining crybaby make no money")Basil Sandshttp://email@example.com:blogger.com,1999:blog-4430862590333307596.post-52085303888595322742014-04-28T18:34:31.733-04:002014-04-28T18:34:31.733-04:00Thanks for this, post and comments. I've rec...Thanks for this, post and comments.

I've recently read a couple of books by MFA trained writers who do nice sentences, poetic descriptions and decent characters, but just don't know what makes a mystery tick. I suspect that unlike those of us who've been happily imbibing genre "trash" since we were kids, they never read the stuff. Now their agent tells them to write a mystery so they can sell some books.
Sorry, it's just not in their blood.

On the other hand, there's at least one graduate of the holy Iowa Writer's Program I like (Curtis Sittenfeld). Then again she doesn't do genre. Unknownhttp://email@example.com:blogger.com,1999:blog-4430862590333307596.post-21969929861020837492014-04-28T16:43:47.802-04:002014-04-28T16:43:47.802-04:00HEAR! HEAR! I've been waiting for this type of...HEAR! HEAR! I've been waiting for this type of article. Literary fiction--high' faluting? I love genre fiction and enjoy each writer's voice
Francespenpatiencehttp://email@example.com:blogger.com,1999:blog-4430862590333307596.post-41733191620719257822014-04-28T15:37:10.080-04:002014-04-28T15:37:10.080-04:00Honestly, literary fiction bores me, genre is wher...Honestly, literary fiction bores me, genre is where it's at. I've always read genre. I try to read the classics here and there, but nothing holds my attention like genre offerings be it romance, mystery, horror, fantasy, etc.tracikriteshttp://firstname.lastname@example.com:blogger.com,1999:blog-4430862590333307596.post-66839637206732951502014-04-28T15:21:17.459-04:002014-04-28T15:21:17.459-04:00Clare-- Another way to ask the question is this: i...Clare--
Another way to ask the question is this: is there a difference among audiences? The answer is of course yes. A majority of readers are not interested in "literature"--in those novels that are written for readers who have been educated to make certain kinds of distinctions. Mass-culture readers (a small number in relation to the whole culture) want to be entertained by books that take them away, give them a break from humdrum daily life. And since something over 70% of fiction is bought by women, I am mostly talking about them. Readers of "literature" also want a break, but their escape takes different forms. I think the luckiest readers are those who enjoy the best of both worlds.
In any case, I don't think there's much point in saying Jane Austen didn't see herself as writing literature. We can't know what she thought about her work. And it doesn't matter, any more than it matters whether Shakespeare saw himself as writing timeless works, or soap operas based on English and Roman history. The end result is what matters, and we know what that is.Barry Knisterhttp://firstname.lastname@example.com:blogger.com,1999:blog-4430862590333307596.post-71312842004999249272014-04-28T14:42:17.231-04:002014-04-28T14:42:17.231-04:00Thanks for the post and links. I'm a new write...Thanks for the post and links. I'm a new writer (short mystery fiction) and an enthusiastic new TKZ reader.
For me, lit vs. genre discussions always bring to mind Raymond Chandler, someone I'd wager could out-craft any MFA snob on the planet. Chandler said his stories were not about crime and detection, but were about the corruption of the human spirit. So whether lit vs. genre is about style or story, I think Chandler showed what the humble mystery can achieve.

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pdichellishttp://email@example.com:blogger.com,1999:blog-4430862590333307596.post-8290160014004449002014-04-28T13:52:42.256-04:002014-04-28T13:52:42.256-04:00Yes, Steve - sometimes I feel like 'literary&#...Yes, Steve - sometimes I feel like 'literary' snobs want to take all the joy and fun out of reading:)Clarehttp://firstname.lastname@example.com:blogger.com,1999:blog-4430862590333307596.post-74454378600621888902014-04-28T13:51:23.830-04:002014-04-28T13:51:23.830-04:00It's crazy isn't it - because some of the ...It's crazy isn't it - because some of the best genre fiction really nail the issues and deeper meanings of life - especially in sci-fi (which can take on the whole 'human condition' while having a great story and plot). Good stories don't need to have literary pretensions - they're just good!Clarehttp://firstname.lastname@example.com:blogger.com,1999:blog-4430862590333307596.post-1177368047191204022014-04-28T13:50:49.775-04:002014-04-28T13:50:49.775-04:00Great discussion, Clare. There are so many facets...Great discussion, Clare.

There are so many facets to the discussion / comparisons. I enjoyed your reference to Jane Austen's work. I believe one of the themes in Pride and Prejudice was disdain for those who looked down their nose at others. And then there's Shakespeare. His productions certainly appealed to the common folk of his day. Now his work is studied by the academics.

In the area of music, more than one hymn sung by the pious was written with the melody "borrowed" from common folk songs. I remember helping plan music for a church service. When I argued for more lively, enjoyable music, I was told that we must "give them what they need, not what they want."

We can take satisfaction, as genre writers, in giving the reader what they want.Steve Hooleyhttp://email@example.com:blogger.com,1999:blog-4430862590333307596.post-56627159093707400452014-04-28T13:48:44.745-04:002014-04-28T13:48:44.745-04:00Terri Will have to take a look at your snarky post...Terri
Will have to take a look at your snarky post:) And totally agree, you have to work with your talents not against them:) Clarehttp://firstname.lastname@example.com:blogger.com,1999:blog-4430862590333307596.post-9413222174450515272014-04-28T13:43:09.382-04:002014-04-28T13:43:09.382-04:00The assumption, I think, that genre fiction is som...The assumption, I think, that genre fiction is somehow less artistic is a matter of the literary folks not finding the deeper meaning in genre fiction. Genre writers don't wear their themes on their sleeves. An entertaining science fiction tale can be just as critical of contemporary society as a literary story, but the difference is - people who read the sci-fi and get the message in a more indirect way, and they have fun while they're absorbing the deeper meaning. I personally feel maligned especially by literary journals who outline in their submission guidelines that no genre fiction will be accepted. It's unkind, judgmental and unnecessary. A good story is a good story. And I stick to speculative fiction- no literary for me.linewordletterhttp://email@example.com:blogger.com,1999:blog-4430862590333307596.post-28672164036473618342014-04-28T13:38:55.126-04:002014-04-28T13:38:55.126-04:00I've been embroiled in this argument for years...I've been embroiled in this argument for years, ever since Stephen King won a big literary medal and the sound of pearls being clutched was heard round the world.

I even wrote a short story called "The Brain Eaters" openly mocking the divide. It has been reprinted 3 times in different zines. The best part of it was having it rejected as "not literary enough" by one zine and then having it appear in a more genre-oriented pub, right above, (wait for it,) a story by the editor who had rejected it.

Someone up-thread nailed it. Literary is character driven and genre is plot driven. Resolution of the plot is paramount rather than "The butterfly left footprints in the butter the day my uncle died."

Yes, I have read lit-fic. Larry McMurtry is a literary stylist. I was 400 pages into Texasville before I realized I had been had. The entire series, about 1200 pages of it is about the fact that Dwayne is depressed. Tis brilliant.

Back in 2011 I wrote my own little take on the "controversy." It is pretty snarky, if anyone is so inclined:

 Confessions of a Genre Hack

My manuscript is straight-up genre and I am running into a bit of a wall of agents wanting a more literary style. But since I can't write who I am, I have to work with it, not against it.

TerriTerri Lynn Coophttp://email@example.com:blogger.com,1999:blog-4430862590333307596.post-77324100438639620582014-04-28T12:54:58.313-04:002014-04-28T12:54:58.313-04:00Wasn't it Samuel Johnson who said, "No on...Wasn't it Samuel Johnson who said, "No one but a blockhead ever wrote except for money"?
John "Ol' Chumbucket" Baurhttp://firstname.lastname@example.com:blogger.com,1999:blog-4430862590333307596.post-69144790804751969402014-04-28T12:42:24.927-04:002014-04-28T12:42:24.927-04:00Exactly. Writing is subjective. Not every story wi...Exactly. Writing is subjective. Not every story will appeal to everyone, but I firmly believe writing should be fun, or else why do it? Thanks for the discussion, Clare.Jordan Danehttp://email@example.com:blogger.com,1999:blog-4430862590333307596.post-91749215742574333992014-04-28T11:15:08.727-04:002014-04-28T11:15:08.727-04:00Diane - great point. Why belittle another writer f...Diane - great point. Why belittle another writer for their choice of genre (or lack thereof)? As Jordan said, writing is hard enough without making it harder/driving yourself crazy!Clarehttp://email@example.com:blogger.com,1999:blog-4430862590333307596.post-1750810407455872372014-04-28T11:13:59.520-04:002014-04-28T11:13:59.520-04:00Joe - that's what makes the book world so grea...Joe - that's what makes the book world so great - all the blurred lines:)Clarehttp://firstname.lastname@example.com:blogger.com,1999:blog-4430862590333307596.post-24421852116227517052014-04-28T11:12:52.768-04:002014-04-28T11:12:52.768-04:00I always think that if someone can't describe ...I always think that if someone can't describe their book coherently in a few sentences then it's often 'literary' (at least in their own mind!)Clarehttp://email@example.com


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After much anticipation, Microsoft has announced Office 2013, couching the new version of its business productivity suite as new Office, marrying it in its marketing literature to cloud services and the new Windows 8 operating system with its touch-centric user interface. Customers will be able to store all their Office work in Microsoft data centers and access it from any device anywhere that is Internet connected. Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer calls the experience magical. But just looking at new Office features themselves reveals some faster ways of doing usual Office tasks and doing some things Office couldn't do before. Here are a few examples.
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Recovery is painfully slow two years after a giant earthquake and tsunami devastated parts of Japan.
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HOPKINS COUNTY, Ky. (7/31/14) — To Chief Wade and to all the men and women on the Madisonville Police Department and the Citizens Police Academy, I would like to thank you for an outstanding job this week at the Hopkins County fair.
The Madisonville Police Department has a program we used at the fair. It is the Fingerprinting Program for the children of Hopkins County. The Police Department had a booth set up at the fair to fingerprint children and the Citizens Police Academy worked at the booth from July 22-26.
With this program we fingerprinted the children, the parents filled out a form with their names and all other information, and a lock of their hair and a picture were put in a zip-lock bag. Parents were asked to put the zip-lock bag in the freezer at home and keep it there so that if the police need it they have it to find the child.
I understand last year the police with the help of the Citizens Police Academy, fingerprinted 1200 children. I hope we pass the 1200 mark this year. I would like to thank the Hopkins County Fair Board, Chief Wade, the men and women of the Madisonville Police Department and the Citizens Police Academy for making this program a success. Also I would like to thank the managers of Kroger, Sure-Way, Market Place, the Sub-ways and Papa John's for the good food.So to the citizens of Hopkins County, when you are out and see a Police Officer, Fireman or any person that is there to help us night and day, go up to them and shake their hand and say 'Thank you.'
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It was just last week. I was in my room, minding my own business, trying to just become a better person by reading the news and being informed about the world around me. Instead, I had stories of Justin Bieber's drunken escapades being forced down my throat. I understand some people love him, and some people love to hate him (and many turn around and listen to music that sounds just like his, but that discussion is for another day), but I try to just stay away from any dialogue concerning him."Then why did you write a post about him?" is what you shrewd readers may ask, and to you all, I say "I can't hear you, you are talking to a computer." But seriously, I was able to take something positive from this recent flare of Bieber-mania, and you all may find a similar sort of consolation as well.
Now more than ever, the music scene is giving rise to young artists who become a dominant force in social culture. The music industry has realized if they pick up attractive teens with moderate talent, they can hastily spit out homogenous songs with catchy tunes and simplified lyrics and the public will gobble it up(and what does that say about us as a society? Once again, a discussion for another day). That is not to say these artists like Justin Bieber, Miley Cyrus, One Direction, are not working at all; I am sure they have hectic lives constantly being in the spotlight. However from a musical standpoint, these "musicians" have not really contributed anything at all. With the help of their record labels, they have unlocked a formula to make a smash-hit with the masses and are able to capitalize. Just straight forward self-indulgent pleasure for the ears, that's all you need. To many of these young artists, artistic self-reflection and offering challenges for societal introspection through music are thrown out the window in place of building and sustaining an image that most Americans and other people of the modern world wish they had. Their fame far exceeds their fan base, and that is the direct product of their emphasis on commercialization over artistic advancement.
Like I mentioned earlier, I try to just not think of the bastardization of music that commercializing has done, and just focus on the things that I do like. However, because of my inability to have any other news presented to me other than Justin Bieber, I started to think about the things I mentioned above with respect to young musicians. It is almost sad that what could have been very interesting musicians are caught in a state of arrested development for the sake of fame and fortune. Well, what about the young artists who had us fooled from the start, and their youthful age had no reflection on their art? (Didn't mean to rhyme I promise)
Beirut has been around for a while, but even if you have heard of them you may not be aware that the genius of Beirut's Zach Condon is two-fold. Not only was Beirut's first album Gulag Orkestar recorded when he was a teen, but Beirut started as a solo project. A truly gifted musician, in addition to letting loose his warm and serene voice on the album, Condon also played accordion, piano, flugelhorn, trumpet, ukelele, mandolin, saxophone, clarinet and even some percussion. The album was mostly his creation, but had some parts added on later by what would become Beirut. Gulag Orkestar was greatly influenced by a trip to Eastern Europe Condon took as a 16 year-old, which is evident in its Balkan flavors. Altogether, this has to be one of my all time favorite albums, and I was genuinely surprised to learn how young he was when he created this work of art. Along with Gulag Orkestar, Beirut has released an EP, Lon Gisland, and three albums, The Flying Club Cup, March of the Zapotec, and The Rip Tide.
Just like Beirut, Bombay Bicycle Club may be a band you have heard of, but not realize that most of the band was under 20 by the time their debut album, I Had the Blues but I Shook Them Loose came out. In fact, the group could have very easily released an album earlier but were all attending the British equivalent of high school across the pond. Innovative and artistic, these young men were able to weave beautiful melodic lines into their energetic rock style. Honestly, I try not to listen to this album in public too often because I find myself moving and bobbing to the music like a silly person. They have released three albums,in three distinct genres thus far, further proving their musicality. Their next album after I Had the Blues but I Shook Them Loose was Flaws and features a stripped down and acoustic set, whereas their third album, A Different Kind of Fix, is similar to the first but has a much more electronic twist. They are coming out with a fourth album on February 3rd, and it will be interesting to see what kind of turn they take.
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using BS components instead of "own" packages
maybe i am wrong, but isn't it even better, to use BS components instead of "own" components.
for example clamscan. ispconfig uses clamscan in /home/ispconfig/tools/clamscan/... (if i remember correct).
if there is a newer version of clamscan, i have to wait for a ispconfig update and to update my server. i am using some "self-patched" scripts, so i have to update to a never ISPConfig version and then i have to "re-apply" all the patches (and not to forget any of them). this means i do not do any ispconfig update if i don't need to do it.
if ispconfig uses the (in my case) "debian" clamscan i only have to do
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There are two things that you should consider. First, debian does not update your clamsac to the latest version, they just patch clamscan to fix bugs but they do not offer always the latest version. The other thing is, that we support many different linux distributions and not every linux distribution makes it so easy to update and install clamd and clamscan.
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The other day I noted that Amazon was listing the manga Wandering Son as being licensed by Fantagraphics, and it came out shortly thereafter that Drunken Dream, a series of short stories by shoujo manga pioneer Moto Hagio, had also been picked up by Fantagraphics.
official word came out: Fantagraphics is working with Shogakukan-- VIZ co-owner whose works are usually considered unavailable by other publishers --to start a full manga line that will be edited by Matt Thorn. Actually, the official word also says it will be "curated" by Matt Thorn, which along with the intriguing gender identity drama Wandering SOn should tell you a bit about the kind of line it will be.
Moto Hagio is considered by many to be the "founding mother" of modern shoujo manga, a member of the prominent "Year 24 Group" who debuted in 1969, and she continues to work to this day-- she celebrated her 40th year as a professional mangaka in 2009. However, relatively few of her works have been translated into English: the short story Hanshin was published in an issue of The Comics Journal, as well as the short story They Were Eleven. The single-volume shoujo sci-fi A, A' was released by VIZ Media some time back, along with two other stories.
Why am I talking up Hagio so much? Because it's also just been announced that she'll be a guest at Comic-Con International this year! You know what that means-- I'll (hopefully!) have a shot at interviewing her! I'm particularly curious on her perspective about how the manga industry has changed-- and how it's stayed the same! --since she debuted.
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Earlier this week, we posted a brand new video from Abel Tesfaye, bka the Weeknd, for a cut from his upcoming debut full-length Kiss Land called "Belong To The World." Tom noted in his post that it samples the drums from Portishead's "Machine Gun" but that band member Geoff Barrow immediately acknowledged that they had denied Tesfaye permission to use them. Barrow kicked off a mini rant by saying, "When someone asks to sample you and you refuse they should have the respect as a fellow artist to not use it."
That same day, we also posted excerpts from an upcoming Complex cover story: Tesfaye's first-ever interview. The reporter on duty, Damien Scott, mentioned he "heard Portishead drums" on the track and Tesfaye responded, "Yeah, that was the inspiration behind that. I wrote a letter to the producers of Portishead and let them know this album is inspired by them." The quote tows the line between innocent fawning and an exercise in covering your own ass. He doesn't mention "Machine Gun" by name, nor the nature of the letter, so it can go either way. Barrows complaints continued:
We usually give sample clearance to tunes we like. its got fuk all to do with money! As most of them are hiphop artist that are skint.
— Geoff Barrow (@jetfury) July 15, 2013
And after the Weeknd Task Force mobilized, slinging insults and conjecture that Barrow and Portishead should feel honored (many of which he retweeted):
Feels like I'm being used to promote the track now… I'll shut up now.
— Geoff Barrow (@jetfury) July 15, 2013
I don't wanna get paid… I just want my beat back.
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While we have no evidence of it as this time, it seems that Barrow, et al. have been told that this is not a case of uncleared samples but just influence that not enough to warrant royalties:
Seems @theweeknd have said there is no sample used or enough likeness to Machine Gun to warrant any infringement….or credit.
— Geoff Barrow (@jetfury) July 17, 2013
The other single we've heard from the LP is its eponymous first single. Its original version, before it was tweaked for the video, sounds identical to Bay Area cloud rap duo Main Attrakionz's "Nothin' Gonna Change" because, well, it is. This circumstance is far less dubious, as the song's producer Silky Johnson was complicit in its usage and no other parties involved seem to be upset about the matter.
We'll have to stay tuned for more developments. What this immediately recalls to me is Kanye West's monologue at the end of The College Dropout closer "Last Call" where he tells the story of what led to him getting his own album, including his first beats for Jay-Z, where he admits that the genesis of his style was stealing from Dr. Dre for Jay's "This Can't Be Life":
"I made this one beat where I sped up this Harold Melvin sample. I played it for [Roc-A-Fella A&R Kyambo "]Hip [Hop" Joshua] over the phone, he's like, 'Oh, yo that shit is crazy. Jay might want it for this compilation album he doin, called The Dynasty.' And at that time, like the drums really weren't soundin right to me. So I went and um, I was listening to Dre Chronic 2001 at that time. And really I just, like bit the drums off "Xxplosive" and put it like, with it sped up, sampled, and now it's kind of like my whole style."
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this is a unique case because usually when artists sample they arent open about it. Seems like Abel would have to be stupid to flaunt the sample like that if Portishead denied him the rights. And plus, he acknowledged the sample. Its not like he was hiding it. He openly told an interview about it, and wrote Portishead a letter. Not sure how much more open and transparent you can get. If he did outright sample it, seems like, again, he'd have to be stupid because the interview only drew attention to the sample. Who knows, if Abel hadnt of mentioned the Portishead link in the interview, the beef might have just gone unnoticed or at least not been public.
I think this shows the generational gap between people Barrow's age, and Abel's age. I would venture to guess people in their 20′s dont flinch when stuff like this happens. Barrow is of a different era and generation. They came out before Napster, before In Rainbows.
Samples to me are an old issue. The new generation doesnt care. And shouldnt. We have Girl Talk. We have music that routinely samples from other stuff. We have mash-ups. To me its a non issue.
People of a certain age, older people, dont understand that Abel sampling Portishead exposed Portishead to a younger and new audience. Take a look at the machine gun youtube page. Look at all those people saying "im here because of the weeknd". Had Barrow not gotten pissed off about it, the fans flocking to that page would have been alot more accepting and kind.
He dug his own grave. And he showed that, as revolutionary and brilliant and forward thinking as Portishead is, they remain stuck in the 90;s in terms of business savvy.
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anyone could have told he was a portishead fan by listening to his old music. doesn't mean he gets to sample it without asking. that shit died out with paul's boutique as far as i'm concerned.
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I think I can. I think you can make statements like that. Im sorry, unless im missing some massive social justice movement, I just dont think teen or twenty somethings get pissed off when artists sample another artist.
Its a new thing, The idea that you take parts of another song, combine it with something else, and you have a new song, your own song. Its a sound collage. And I think it isnt just music thats learned about this. You have it via visual art as well, and literature, film. I see it as a distinctly Generation Y, or Millenials doing this.
The idea that you could mix Jay-z and the beatles together and create one of the most critically acclaimed and beloved albums of the decade, seems to me a distinctly Generation Y idea.
You may not be aware of that, of the generational divide, but I think its as clear as day.
The respect for an artists control over their art works both ways. Being for sampling and use of others art, doesnt mean I think artists deserve less control. Quite the opposite.
I just think when you release music or any art, its no longer in your control anymore. And people should be able to, and DO do whatever they want with it. You deserve money and a shout out.
Beyond that its just whining.
Barrow would drive himself crazy trying to battle every person using Portisheads music. I assume there are many mixtapes that use Portishead music, and he's never heard, or we've never heard about it. Good luck to Barrow.
holy fuck
shots and characters are called tropes.
taking an exact musical piece is sampling.
there's a difference.
I know you can't.
And there is no divide, you are delusional.
"It's a new thing…I see it as a distinctly Generation Y, or Millenials doing this"…
no. people started experimenting with tape loops in the late 1950s… this Terry Riley piece from 1963 is entirely "sample-based". http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lMcmMhfYkNI
yeah it's so gen y in film. godard and tarantino are totes gen y.
and chemical brothers for that matter. and beastie boys and puff daddy. they're all gen y right?
sampling isn't new, ri-ri, it's just an unasked for, and lied about sample.
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oh i agree. Anyone that sampling anyone elses stuff is a thief and sampling music is a crime and should be treated as such. Anyone sampling has nefarious purposes. And of course, we can do so much to curb and stop it too. The powers that be have so much power to stop, say a kid from making a mixtape, and using a sample on it. They can stop that, of course.
As far as a potential court case, yeah I do think if it went to trial it would get thrown out.
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and as far as eras are concerned, I think its clear the 2000′s have been a breakout era for sampled music, for sound collages and mashups and all that stuff. If you cant see that then i dont know what.
Even putting aside file sharing and all that, I think something clearly happened when napster hit, in reguards to music like a Girl Talk or 2 Many Dj's, all that stuff. It was bubbling up near the surface with Endtroducing, but pretty self evidently, Napster provided people, artists, with free access to music that they hadnt heard or seen before and allowed them to easily mix them together.
Something like Grey Album set off a whole genre and movement.
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Stroke of Genie.us came out in 2001
aaaaaahhhh you've been trolling this whole time!! You got me. well played.
Gonna take a break for awhile. This has been fun.
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all due respect to the BB, but im going to say for the purposes of this discussion and our generation Stroke of genie.us and Grey album and napster forming were more influential in terms of what we are discussing than Pauls boutique.
1. you are the self-proclaimed voice of our generation
2. you're wrong
3. about everything
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i agree donnytella,
stroke of genie.us and grey album and napster had NO impact on music and culture at large the last decade plus.
Their impact is nil. I completely agree.
You listen to yourself?
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whats troll like about acknowledging fact? Mashups and Grey Album and napster were hugely important and influential in all this.
Some people of a certain age understand far more than your generalizations assume.
Business savvy?! Dude, you're stupid.
The young people that don't seem to care about sample stealing are the same ones holding up their damn Samsung in my face at a Portishead show for 2 hours straight.
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Donnytilla, I hope you cleared that use of the Paul's Boutique album art with both Capitol Records and Jeremy Shaton, the photographer.
And Raptor Jesus, you just "cheapened" my experience of the Harry Potter films by sampling a screen shot and then putting text all over it. Thanks a lot for killing my childhood, asshole.
Abel just looks like a massive tool right now.
This massive tool?
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thats sort of impossible now in 2013. Im all for artists rights, but its like file sharing. How do you stop it? Its too far in motion. I think alot of people of our generation, im a twentysomething, view copyright as non existant. Art can be, and is, a mashup of your influences. Thats why I brought up Girl Talk. He took samples from other songs, rearranged them, and created something new. Never got clearance for any of it. Or we have the Grey Album. Copyright doesnt exist in 2013 in the way it did in 1920.
With mixtapes, free albums, filesharing and the like, its impossible to track down any of it. And just like with filesharing I think popular opinion is clearly on the side of the "rebels".
Artists deserve to be paid for their work, but as Barrow said, this isnt about money. The discussion about artists being paid is a whole other can of worms.
I think artists deserve to be fairly paid for any work they do, but once the art comes out I think people
have a right to do with it what they want. And I think the public clearly agrees with me on this.
Sampling as a problem and issue seems so petty to me. Im sure all those funk artists early hip hop acts sampled didnt view hip hop as art either. Now, we discuss the poetry and political symbolism in Tupacs lyrics as Ivy League schools and hip hop is viewed as a legitimate art form.
Again, if Portishead views this as a slap in the face, they shouldnt accept any money resulting from sales directly attributable to people finding out about Machine Gun and buying it.
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Again, if Portishead dont like the sampling, they shouldnt accept any money off of people who discovered them via the sample. Simple as that.
if people are old and refuse to view sampling and sound collage as music and as art, thats their bag.
Me thinks no one is scared of Barrow, or anyone else in this issue. Next week we'll hear some new album by whoever, and it will have sampling and will be a sound collage.
Good luck trying to stave off and curb people from viewing this issue like I do. You really think people our age give one damn that musicians take parts of a song they didnt make, and then use it in their own songs? Again, maybe I missed some major social justice movement,.
Barrow is clueless. And anyone claiming to view this issue as legitimate is stuck in 1998.
Just like with filesharing, im sure, that in 2013, the record labels and those against it, will, in some fit of grandeur and pomposity, think that somehow this case be stopped.
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picking and choosing is infantile. Barrow is out of his depth. I think he was naive in what he was doing, and had no idea people would rush to the Weeknds defense.
You cant have it both ways. So im sure Portishead will be pissed off and refuse to take any money when people buy Machine Gun and or Third off iTunes as a result of this, right?
I dont know what else Abel could have done. He's obviously a big fan, took the time to write them a letter, talked about it openly in a major interview. What else can you do? This wasnt a case of someone trying to slip one past Portishead. Anyone suggesting that is insane.
And again Barrow I think is of the old generation. He'd have to be. The idea that any sample in a song leads people to comment about it, and research the sample and post about it on the original sampled artists youtube, thats basic 101 stuff there.
Samples drum up business for THE ORIGINAL sampled artist.
I think its obvious at least 1 person at the very minimum heard about Machine Gun via the sample, went to iTunes, got Machine gun and or Third.
Barrow should give that money back. its blood money to him
Deconstructing: The Weeknd, Portishead, and plagiarism in 2013
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Its laughable all these people saying The Weeknd is a shady business character. The Drake issue is nonexistant. This was brought up in the several other Weeknd related new articles this past week. Drake and Weeknd have denied a beef exists. It takes 10 seconds to go on youtube and find this stuff. So thats a non issue. All we have are claims from Rose about Abel. And this. This, the Portishead and Weeknd row, seems to me a non issue too.
He evidently listened to alot of portishead while making Kissland. Wrote them a letter saying it was inspired by them. And talked about it in an interview. Again, what more can Portishead or anyone else want. This isnt some shady guy sneaking away to fool everyone and sneak in a sample while no one is looking. He openly discussed it. Both with the world and with Portishead. You cant get more transparent.
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its a matter of taking something old and making it new. The jay-z and beatles thing is the perfect example. Grey Album was something new. And it was and still is brilliant. I think most people our age know this to be true. It completely changed the scene.
Anyone who believes twenty somethings are thinking about copyrights and intellectual property while listening to the Grey Album or any other such album, is out of their gourds. We want the music to sound good. One of my favorite tracks of the Stereogum MySplice mashups was U2 and Taylor Swift. It was utterly brilliant to mash those up. I dont think the discussion is, "gee Suzy, the track is sampled and is Taylor getting any money from this, and…"
The only thing that matters is if its a good song. I dont care if its Kelly Clarkson mixed with Lil Wayne, if it sounds good, im into it.
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the generational divide i refer to I think is a direct result of being exposed to such a diverse amount of music. Musical genres and genre preferences dont exist. Look at Stereogum. They cover Beyonce and Animal Collective. Sufjan and JT. people our age dont think twice about mixing the music up. Whether thats on our ipod while we take a run. Or whether thats in the studio. Barrows generation wasnt raised like that. If that cant be seen or acknowledge we will get nowhere.
The fact that alot of the remixed and mashed up songs since 2000 have been so amazing, Stoke of Genie..us being the prime example is only a bonus.
Theres an accessibility and "this music is mine too" power in the way music is consumed now. We own the music. We all do. Artists deserve the credit and money. But id much rather live in a world where you can mashup Beyonce and Sufjan, than one where everyone is prevented from doing so
So respecting another artist work is no longer valid in the view of the (oh fuck that term) "millennials" ??
if every so called gen y thinks like musicismylife78, then im sorry that is so fucked up.
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You, along with this thread, have inspired a longtime Stereogum reader to sign up and comment for the first time.
DUDE. Sorry. You're super passionate and eloquent, but this is a pure, simple, BUSINESS issue and you are flat out wrong. Some have touched on this a bit, but here's the crux:
Grey Album, Girl Talk, Mixtape culture, DJs, mashups, etc — These are all great examples of FREE work created and distributed OUTSIDE of the legalities of major record label for-profit business practices. Inside those channels though, no matter your age or generation or beliefs, all samples must be cleared, permission must be granted, and plagiarism is a serious issue. Leaf through the liner notes of any album and you will find sample credits, sometimes many paragraphs worth of them. In many cases, the sampled artist is even credited among songwriters. In hip-hop especially, major album releases are routinely delayed to ensure sample clearance.
Just this year, even the 'free mixtape' line was crossed when Lord Finesse sued Mac Miller for an uncleared sample. He had been cool with it as a track on a free mixtape, but when Miller made a video for the song and it became a profit-generating hit single, things changed. (Now, the song was still not being SOLD, so Finesse's claim was probably less founded and upset a lot of people — but Miller still had to settle with him! And hey, even Danger Mouse did face legal challenges for Grey Album).
This case is far more cut & dry. It's a big-budget release from Universal Music to be sold for profit. He brazenly copied another artist's work after being denied sample clearance, and will now profit from sales of that work. When The Weeknd's "Trilogy" was re-released to be sold for profit on Universal, he had to clear all the samples he had previously used for free. Beach House, Siouxsie & others granted clearance, but Aaliyah's people did not, and her work was removed from the retail versions of those songs. Had he used them, you can bet the farm that her estate would have sued and won.
If this was a free release it would be different, but as it is, there is no contest here at all.
Geoff Barrow, meanwhile, is a producer, musician, arranger, and yes, a DJ, steeped in the culture of musical collage, sampling, etc. The man helped to pioneer trip-hop and the use of turntables in live band setting, and has worked with hip-hop artists of all stripes. He has happily licensed samples of his music to over 50 artists, and just last year he was sampling Radiohead & others himself for tracks on his Quakers project for Stones Throw, (a pioneering entity in sample-based music itself).
He is more well-versed in matters of sampling than the majority of artists on earth.
As for "exposure" — less than a month ago Portishead played a headlining set at Glastonbury, arguably the largest (cross-generational) music festival on earth.
It's Abel who is severely out of his depth here, and he comes off as a shameless, smug, self-entitled, child. If I were his Universal A&R on this project, i'd be shitting myself and thanking god that Barrow doesn't seem to be the lawsuit-type. Simple copyright law, nothing more or less.
Feel free to stick around and continue commenting. You eloquently stated a lot of things that needed to be said. Well done.
I think this dude is about to have a bad case of the Mndays…
There is a huuuge difference between influence and actually repurposing a piece of audio or a composition's specific motive. The Monkeys may have been influenced by the Beatles but you didn't hear parts of "She Loves You" in their songs.
Ya know, all this is really too bad. Because that song really is pretty tight.
You bake a pie and put it on your window sill.
I steal your pie, drizzle some carmel on it, and call it my own.
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Weaning: Milk tastes strange after weaning
My eight-month-old son has weaned himself from nursing about a month ago. The other day my partner told me that my milk tasted bad while we were making love. I tasted it, and it did taste strange. I'm also still leaking on a regular basis. Is this normal?Question:
Debbi Donovan
Debbi Donovan is a Board Certified Lactation Consultant, as well as a retired La Leche League Leader. For more than a decade, Debbi... Read more
It is normal for the taste of your milk to change once weaning takes place. When breastfeeding or milk expression stops, milk composition changes. If weaning is abrupt, the levels of lactose and potassium in your milk decrease and the sodium, chloride, fat and total protein increases over the next 42 days. Your milk will taste salty, rather than sweet and may seem more concentrated. This is a normal part of involution.
Breast changes occur slowly in the year or so following weaning. In the first several weeks following weaning breasts may still leak milk. Many moms can still express a drop or two of milk from their breasts for quite some time after weaning. This is normal. If you have spontaneous nipple discharge several months following weaning, where drops escape without hand expression or breast stimulation, you need to be evaluated by your healthcare provider.Answer:


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