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Editor says, what if Italy had stayed neutral in WW2 muses Scott Palter? Please note that the opinions expressed in this post do not necessarily reflect the views of the author(s).
In 1940, Italy declared war on the Western powers and entered WW2. On paper it was an act of idiocy. Their military was unready. Their colonies were not properly provisioned. The bulk of their merchant marine was at sea and thus immediately lost to the British. The sole intelligent reason for this act was a cool calculation that France was about to fall. Reasoning that the British Empire would not fight on without its continental sword (the French Army), Italy expected there to be a peace conference. Their few weeks of combat would buy them a seat at the conference, which in turn would probably result in Italy picking up some new colonial territory, and, perhaps, some border adjustments with France or Yugoslavia.
From Tiny Acorns Grow an Oak by Scott PalterNeedless to say, the calculation was completely in error. The war would cost Italy all of her colonies and the destruction of the body of the country when it became a war zone for the final two years of the European struggle. All of this would occur because of a miscalculation in British intentions. Let us presume that Churchill took time out from the chaos of France's collapse to make VERY clear to the Italians that this was the end of a phase of the war, rather than an end of the war. Let us presume that the French made some minor territorial concessions to Italy (the Azzou strip in northern Chad and some Saharan sand on the Libyan - Algerian border). Italy stays neutral.
The early changes in the war are subtle. The later are far grander.
There are no changes in the Battle of Britain or Battle of the Atlantic. Italy made little contribution to either. Britain would have needed large naval forces to watch a neutral Italy whose government was capable of intervention at any moment. However, there are no campaigns in North Africa, Greece, Syria, Iraq or East Africa. The British Army does not suffer these losses or gain this combat experience. Except for commando raids, Britain is not engaged in a ground war between the Fall of France and Pearl Harbor. The RAF does not have to build a Desert Air Force. The troops and planes not so used are available to garrison Burma and Malaya. We will return to the results of this shortly.Rommel's three divisions are a minor addition to the invasion of Russia. The addition of the air elements sent to the Mediterranean is more noticeable. The biggest difference is the absence of a Balkan campaign. In OTL, Italy invades Greece in 1940. They fail miserably at it. This forces Germany to take a Balkan detour that winds up including Yugoslavia and Crete. In this TL none of this occurs. Yugoslavia and Bulgaria are forced into the Tripartite Pact over the winter of 1940-41 on very mild terms. No German garrisons are needed in either. Greece is allowed its neutrality as long as trade with Germany is continued (same as Turkey and Sweden in OTL).
In OTL the Balkan adventure postponed Barbarossa by two weeks and added much wear and tear on the trucks and men making the long roundtrip. It bled off a German army (12th) left behind in garrisons from Belgrade to Athens. It also destroyed the German airborne forces on Crete.
A two week earlier start does not take Moscow or win the war in 1941. Neither the ten extra divisions (DAK plus 12th Army) nor the fewer vehicle breakdowns make Moscow any nearer to Warsaw and Konigsburg. A German win in 1941 requires a very different set of changes than Italian neutrality. However, the extra two weeks do see a German Army less burned out when it is repulsed before (or perhaps in the streets of) Moscow in early December of 1941. At each of the three German advances, the rear has been better swept (fewer Red Army remnants to form partisans), the supply forces have had a little more time to do their work, and the giant number of abandoned weapons have been better collected.
To do we will add an Italian Expeditionary Force ( say six divisions of Blackshirts and Young Fascists, which is what was sent to Spain in the 1930's). Italy does not declare war on Russia. These are ?volunteers' like the Spanish Blue Division (party to party as opposed to state to state to use the usual Communist terminology). To this will be added a Corps of White Russian volunteers from Yugoslavia, also under Italian command. These men are neither trained nor armed for frontline service. However, they are quite capable of policing up the vast hordes of Russian prisoners captured in the great encirclement battles of 1941. The Italians will drive this herd to the railheads, where they are shipped to Italy as war booty (slaves). A good bit of Russian equipment will follow, bringing the Italian military to a less unready state. The Italians also lack the German racial hatred of the Easterners. They will extensively recruit among the prisoners and locals. The net effect is that the eight Italo-Yugoslav divisions will be almost to corps strength each by the end of 1941.
So the retreat from Moscow never develops into the semicollapse of OTL. This results in fewer German losses, higher Russian ones and an earlier burnout of the Russian offensive. Part of this is the large Italian force garrisoning the towns to the rear of Army Group Center. Part of this is the better state of the German lines of communication and depots. The largest single change is that Kesselring's Second Air Fleet does not have to be pulled out of Belarus to bail out the Desert War.
So the spring - summer of 1942 finds a marginally stronger German Army in the East and a marginally weaker Russian one. We will return to the effects of this after our Asiatic detour promised above.
In OTL an overstretched British Empire made the decision to give priority to absolutely everything over the defense of Burma, Malaya, the East Indies and the South Seas (Australia, New Zealand, etc.). Without a North African war, the best of the Indian Army and the bulk of the Anzac forces are not in the Mediterranean. As is, Malaya and Burma were near run things. In this TL, the initial assaults on Malaya and Burma are repulsed.
The East Indies will still fall, but more slowly. It will take until the end of 1942 to finish them and Malaya off. Burma will stay in Allied hands. Now the results of this will seem perverse. A better British general in Singapore, a larger British Fleet, and a much larger RAF contingent will mean that in the end the British Empire will lose many more ships, men and planes. Essentially, the British simply couldn't stand up to the Japanese Navy or Air Force in this period. A Cunningham or Auchinlek in Singapore in place of Wavell and Percival could blunt the Japanese Army and bleed them badly. He could not change the air-naval equation. That equation determined the ultimate logistical result of the campaign.
However, with the Japanese carrier fleet tied up taking the East Indies and Malaya, Japan never gets "victory disease". In OTL they were wildly successful at first. This caused them to get overconfident and change their strategy. Instead of fortifying their conquests and waiting to attrit the American counterattack, they attacked in all directions. The result was a series of campaigns (Coral Sea, Midway, Solomons, Papua - New Guinea) that basically destroyed the elite prewar naval and air units.
Instead here the much slower initial advance keeps them in their proper hedgehog. This will make the Pacific War much longer and bloodier. It will also means that Bataan lasts somewhat longer as the Japanese concentrate on finishing off the East Indies first. This gets more US ground and air units sent to Australia. However, it also means that after securing Australia, Port Mosby, Guadalcanal and the South Sea string of bases, the Pacific War essentially grinds to a halt in early 1943. Until America's new carrier fleet becomes available in 1944, the Allies lack the power to go further. So 1943 is a sea - air sparring contest in which neither side takes major risks.
Back to Russia: the primary problem with the German summer offensive is again geography plus the higher command's insanity in conducting a street fight in Stalingrad. This will not change. However, the equipment seized in 1941 will make the Italian 8th and Hungarian 2nd Armies marginally stronger. It will also provide marginally more reserves behind the Rumanians. Stalingrad will still be encircled. The retreat from the Caucasus will still be necessary.
What will be different then is that there will not be a companion disaster in North Africa. The Allied occupation of French Northwest Africa will open the Mediterranean more easily to Allied shipping. It will not require a Panzer Army to be sent to Tunis or 60% of Germany's long-range aircraft. Instead those units will be available to the Don Front. There will be no breakout from Stalingrad (Hitler wouldn't have permitted it). There will be less of a Russian advance and a bigger backhand blow by Manstein. On the margin the Germans will be stronger, the Russians weaker.
Without a Mediterranean front in 1942-43, the Allies will not be able to withstand Russian pressure to do something besides air raids. In OTL the Allies fought major 1943 campaigns in Burma, New Guinea, the Solomons, Tunis, Sicily and southern Italy. None of those happen here. Instead there is a May 1943 invasion of France.
There is no Atlantic Wall. The defenses of the beaches between the major ports was Rommel's doing in late 1943-44. So the invasion force gets ashore more easily. There is a smaller German garrison in France so the lodgment goes more easily and Cherbourg falls faster. The good luck ends there. Germany has more reserves and is less heavily attrited is this TL. The American and British armies are much greener. There is no Normandy breakout.
Instead there is a slow attritional grind forward, with the Combined Bomber Force being repeatedly used in a ground support role to blow holes in the German lines (of the type from the Cobra attack in OTL). This in turn destroys the German Air Force faster as the attritional fighter battles take place nearer to England. Instead of the Lw fighter arm collapsing in the first months of 1944, it is bled to death here in the summer and fall of 1943 over France.
Normandy does appear to help the Russians. The Kursk offensive is never made. This actually hurts. Without Kursk and without an Italian front soaking up two German armies (and the defection of Italian forces in Yugoslavia soaking up two more), the Germans have sufficient reserves to make the reconquest of Ukraine slower and more expensive. The disparity of forces and the ongoing drain of Normandy means they lose, but in takes all of 1944 to clear Ukraine and retake Smolensk (one year behind OTL).
In the meantime, by the end of 1943 the Western Allies have cut off Brittany and enlarged their bridgehead to the Lower Seine but are nowhere near Paris. The bomber attacks on the western German cities are much less than OTL but still enough to cause pain. Speer hits on the idea of relocating some plants to Italy to take advantage of its neutral status. Italy has no air raids, a friendly government and those millions of Russian POW's as force laborers. It has also taken in millions of other refugees from the Nazis so it has the potential for major industrial production given German help with machine tools, technicians, etc. Italy begins force draft industrialization. The Allies are angry but do not need another front.
The Allies spend 1944 clearing France to the Somme and Meuse, aided by secondary invasions in Calais and Provence. In the Pacific, the Japanese get their predicted climatic naval battles in the Marianas. Essentially both fleets destroy each other while the American ground forces take the islands at extremely high cost. This is what happened in OTL in the Solomons. Then, as here, the US can build more ships and Japan cannot. So we have no major offensive in the southwest Pacific or Burma, but rather bloodbaths at Wake, the Marianas and Iwo, followed by a submarine blockade of Japan. Japan will still make its 1944-45 offensive in China that drives Chiang effectively out of the war. The difference here is that with the Burma Road open, a substantial part of the Chinese Army retreats in northern Burma, where the Allies rebuild and retrain it (Chiang will have many times as many top notch divisions in the Chinese Civil War).
1945 sees the Allies slog forward to and across the Rhine. Stalin's forces take Rumania, Belarus and the Baltic States but come up short at the Vistula and East Prussian border. The Combined Bomber force keeps hammering the German transport net and synthetic petrol facilities. Starting in August they have nukes to add - 3 the first month and two a month thereafter. By the end of 1945, Germany still has two coherent fronts, but is bleeding to death internally. Jets, V-2's and other wonder weapons cannot make up for a collapsed industrial and transport base, no food and no fuel for the weapons. The German resistance starts to fragment in early 1946. Stalin still wins the race to Berlin (May 1946) but the West beats him to Prague and Vienna. The war in Europe ends in June of 1946 without a formal surrender. Millions of Germans and Hungarians seek sanctuary in Italy. WW2 in Europe ends with an extra ten million dead, far more damage and a much stronger Italy with a correspondingly weaker Britain, France and Russia.
In the Pacific, 1945 has seen the Americans take Okinowa and Pusan to tighten the blockade of Japan. American fire bombers have leveled the cities. Millions of Japanese have starved. However, the major ground offensives we had in the Pacific have been diverted to meet the needs of a longer and far more expensive European campaign. By early 1946 the Japanese Court and most of the Army Higher command have relocated to the Asian mainland to escape the famine in the Home Islands. The social structure of the abandoned Japanese homeland disintegrates. The Emperor dies in an air raid on Munkden. The Army fights on. We and the Russians redeploy from Europe. When the Russian invasion of Manchuria destroys the main Japanese armies (August 1946), the Home Islands surrender to us. Japan does not end the war so much as disintegrate. By now the death toll from starvation and disease is over ten million. Russia overruns North China and most of Korea. They set up friendly regimes (Mao and Kim) keeping the lands they have taken. Chiang essentially gets the Yangtse Valley and the South. He spends the balance of the decade suppressing Maoists in his zone. China is effectively partitioned.
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Category: The RVs We Drive
January 13, 2012 by Professor95 · 33 Comments
I would like to ask you a question. It is a tough question – not only to answer honestly, but for me to ask because I KNOW it could be interpreted (wrongly) as an insult to your inner ego. Are you really qualified to safely drive your RV? And if you answered yes (or even no :)), the next question is: Do you always adhere to the rules and regulations that outline safe driving practices for RVs? If you are still with me and not totally insulted by my suggesting that you just might not be fully qualified (from a safety viewpoint) to drive your RV – take some time to consider the following discussion and then process the content with an open mind. Once a driver moves from a family type automobile to a motor home or even a 26-foot travel trailer pulled by a 1/2 ton pick-up, everything changes. Your stopping distance, passing range, acceleration time, and visibility are only the beginning of what is different. There is a reason statistics show that the percentage of rear-end collisions... [Read more...]
Patti's Saga of an RV Rookie: Benefits and Liabilities of RV Consignment and God Is in Charge of Timing
October 9, 2011 by Patti F. · 5 Comments
There's a reason I named my blog, "Saga of an RV Rookie… " rookie being the operative term; as in, every single thing we do related to RVing is for the first time, including figuring out the right time to go full-time. At this point, I'm inclined to say something about RV virgins, but I probably should desist and move on to the overwhelmingly fascinating world of RV consignments; but more important than that, I'll address how God reminds us He is in charge of the plans. Now, just so you know, you are number one on my mind when I write for Woodall's. I always want to bring a benefit to you, so you think it's worth your time to read what I have to say. I try to share something I've learned, bought, or experienced that will help you in some way. In this case, I'd like to share what I've learned about the thrills and joys of RV consignment. Here we go: They say (whoever they are) that most people get 3 RVs before they get the "right one." It turns out... [Read more...]
why we chose a toy hauler…
September 23, 2011 by Dana Ticknor · 3 Comments
Toy haulers are popular with those rvers who enjoy getting out with their 'toys' – toys like quads, dirt bikes, and razors (even a golf cart here and there). While we have a quad and a couple of dirt bikes, we store them while we are on the road, and they don't come along with us. But a toy hauler is still our first choice of rv – we are hauling cargo, but our cargo is sleeping quarters! With 11 kids, 9 or 10 who currently travel with us, there is just not another rv that will comfortably sleep us. Well, an entertainer coach would, but the ones we like are ever so slightly out of our price range (about $400k out of our price range!) When we started out on our fulltiming ventures, we began in the bunkhouse pull behind that we had been camping in for the previous 4 years. While it was perfect for our camping excursions, once we decided that a life on the road was for us, we did desire a bit more room than our 30′ travel trailer afforded. ... [Read more...]
Why My RV of Choice is Not an RV
September 22, 2011 by Good Sam Team · 9 Comments
The Revelations & Denials of a Happy Tent Camper… With an entire week devoted to our bloggers' "RVs of Choice" I felt the need to represent tent campers just like me across North America, who faithfully read the Woodall's Camping Blog enjoying posts about camp-cooking, unique things to do, and tips for not killing your kids on road trips. See, there is a misnomer amongst RVers that tent campers are in a deeply jealous state of their luxurious RV accommodations, while in fact that often isn't the case at all. (The truth is, is tent campers are only a little jealous, and slightly more so during winter months.) Our littlest camper in 2011 RVers and tent campers are cut out of the same cloth. In fact, how many of you RVers enjoyed tent camping for years before finally deciding that even the air mattress on the ground isn't going to provide your grown-up bones with enough comfort to continue on in a tent? At Woodall's we enjoy reading the annual reader survey... [Read more...]
Looking For Fun with the Fun Finder
September 21, 2011 by Traveler8343 · 10 Comments
How did we select our current RV? Well, I'd like to report that we had unlimited funds and time to select nothing but the very best that satisfied our every whim and need. I'd like to tell you that, but it wouldn't be true. Instead, I'll tell you what is probably a common story. We had camped for many years while the kids were growing up. But, as time went on, life began to interfere. Promotions, transfers, tuition, mortgages; all added up to lots of responsibility and outgo; as opposed to income. We dreamed of an early retirement and an upgrade to a class A motorhome that we would tour the country with. Years went by and vacations became less frequent (After all, ambitious people don't actually take vacations, do they?). After a while, any trips we took were of the hotel variety. Our dream had started to fade as I chased after the corporate brass ring. I'm not going to complain; at least not too much. I got to travel the world, staying in fine hotels and, in general, enjoying... [Read more...]
….. and, We Selected a Large Fifth Wheel (…and why!)
September 21, 2011 by Professor95 · 5 Comments
Our current RV is a fifth wheel, following a long list of previously owned travel trailers, motorhomes and folding tent trailers. Truthfully, we enjoyed each and every one of them and have many fond memories of our travels and adventures in what ever we were pulling or driving. As Nancy and I matured (nice word for getting older :)), we began to value indoor space more than we had in our younger years. Amenities like central air conditioning, larger holding tanks, opposing slide rooms, bigger refrigerators, additional counter and cabinet space, comfortable living area seating, spacious bath areas, and yes – even a central vacuum, washer/dryer and electric fireplace began to become more attractive. Bottom line? We wanted SPACE and residential amenities without a brick foundation!! Of course, all of this comes at a "price" and fuel mileage towing a 15,000 pound fiver is not anything like Patti is getting with her Winnie (We "average" 10-12 mpg pulling with... [Read more...]
Patti's Saga of an RV Rookie: Why Our 2006 Winnebago View Does It For Me: Can you say "22 MPG, boys and girls?"
September 21, 2011 by Patti F. · 2 Comments
Everybody has their favorite RV. But my favorite is Winnebago's View for four specific ones: incredibly high gas mileage; superior engineering –mechanical ; non-ugly interior furnishings; and great re-sale value ( because used Winnebago Views are hard to come by and everyone loves them), unlike most other used RVs. First of all, perhaps you don't believe that phenomenal gas mileage. Well, you had better believe it, because I documented our mileage maniacally all the way from Arizona to Montana…I mean documented like a fiend-woman obsessed. There was only one instance when the gas mileage dropped to a low of 18 mpg; that was a straight-up hill stretch that we ran the air conditioning non-stop to meet my princess-esque needs for complete comfort. That 18 mpg was the only exception to our fantastic 22 miles per gallon. Next, you must know that great gas mileage is a result of the View's lovely engine . • It boasts a premium 2.7-liter CDI five cylinder turbo-diesel Mercedes Benz... [Read more...]
Which RV did we picked and Why we chose this one?
September 21, 2011 by Canadianladybug · Leave a Comment
As a member of the blogging team of Woodall's, I have to blog about specific theme every once in a while. This week, we have to blog about our RV and why we have chosen this one in particular. Our Travel Trailer When we first started to look at RVs, we had a pop-up trailer. But we wanted more functionality while camping like a shower and bathroom for example. So every once in a while we looked at the RVs. We knew that we wanted the flexibility of travelling for our family. In 2007, after talking with a salesperson at an RV store in our city, we purchased a Jay Feather model 30U by Jayco. Why this one in particular? Because it is light and we can go on trips with the whole family. Back when we chose this model we had three kids and we thought that we might have another one – we loved the fact that there were two bunk beds in the back. There was an pull-out for extra room in the kitchen/living room area and there was a bathroom! Our RV when we picked it up back... [Read more...]


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I don't use my desktop computer. And it shall sit and collect dust no more! This goal was a lot more involved than just posting an old computer on Craigslist. First, I went through all the files: archived, organized, or deleted. Next, I bought a cheap small external hard drive to store all the files on. After that, I transferred all of it to my laptop to eliminate duplicates. And then did a final backup to the external hard drive. I'd been advised not to buy a cheap external hard drive, because they die a lot. However, I'm just using as a backup system, so I think it should be fine. Next, I posted my monitor on Craigslist. I will end up donating it if it doesn't sell. It's nice to have more space in my apartment, now that the mammoth desktop is off my desk.
Thankfully, this week wasn't too much work. After cleaning the bathroom and organizing a couple of drawers, I just need to pick up a few bathroom organizing containers at IKEA. I'm also still looking for a small vase for the bathroom.
Still to pick up on my Apartment Therapy Shopping List:
laundry hamper liner
drawer organizing containers
something to cover the breaker box
media shelf to set inside the TV bench
vase for bathroom
On to week 7!
This week, it's all about the bathroom.
Week 6 – Light Therapy
Clean bathroom
Declutter bathroom cabinet
Arrange bathroom efficiently
Upgrade razor and shaving supplies
Purchase bath salts
and nice soap
Place a candle in the bathroom
Consider scents for your home
Plan for the week ahead on Sunday
Wake early and take a bath before work
Straighten desk at work
It's good to know that Week 5 is the typical week to fall off the "Apartment Therapy Cure" wagon. Maxwell (Apartment Therapy author) posted that we should focus on what we've accomplished so far in the cure to try and motivate ourselves (and each other). So here's what I have –and haven't– done.
Yes, this does make me feel like I've accomplished a lot more!
I have been warned about week 5… looks like I'll be spending some time organizing my files.
Week 5 – Getting Into the Thick of It
Clean office area
Vacuum, dust, mop
Declutter files
Tackle the cord octopus
Try a one-day media fast
Buy fresh flowers
Choose at least 1 soft/hard thing to add or subtract
Cook 3 meals at home this week (3 of 3)
Eat at home Sunday through Thursday (4 of 5)
Get to bed early and read before sleep (define 'early')
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Commercial recycling in Gilbert has grown from 33 tons of collected recyclables in August to 42 tons in November.
The growth show's the city's commitment to its Go Green, Gilbert campaign, a spokeswoman said in a press release. The town hopes to divert 30 percent of what would normally be sent to landfills to be recycled. Currently, Gilbert has an 18 percent residential diversion rate. Commercial and business diversion rate is just two percent, but the town is reaching out to additional businesses to increase that number.
"We are reaching out to our local businesses and offering this service, free to them, as a way to be friendly to our environment, and to also divert the costs of processing waste that can be reused, to a landfill," said Lou Andersen, the town's solid waste manager.
Gilbert encourages online requests and correspondence as an easy way to begin collection at www.gilbertaz.gov/recycle. On the same site, businesses and residents can learn more about what can be recycled, and all of the green programs Gilbert offers, including compost bins, bulk trash and year-round household hazardous waste collection. Additional questions can be directed to the town at (480) 503-6400.


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Donald Trump's latest luxury hotel will open its doors to customers in Toronto on Jan. 31, 2012, senior Trump Hotel exec Jim Petrus tells Hotel Check-In.
The Trump International Hotel and Tower Toronto is located in a new landmark tower that soars 65 stories, giving guest rooms and the restaurant impressive views and making it the tallest residential tower in Canada.
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If you want to escape Toronto's bitter cold in one of the hotel's 261 caviar-and-Champagne colored guest rooms, expect to pay rates that start in the mid $300s when the hotel first opens in the dead of winter.
The hotel will compete against the new Ritz-Carlton, the Four Seasons, the Park Hyatt and Hazelton, which is part of the Leading Hotels of the World network.
The Trump tower's location in the financial district at the intersection of Bay and Adelaide should make it popular with the business elite.
But Petrus says it will also appeal to well-heeled leisure travelers, too, due to its proximity to Toronto's new Opera House, the Harbourfront, Rogers Centre (formerly SkyDome), Air Canada Centre and restaurants, museums and shopping.
The Trump Toronto's smallest rooms start at 550 square feet, with one-bedroom suites starting at 750 square feet. The biggest suites in the building are five "Trump Executive Suites" on the 30th floor.
At 4,000 square feet, the hotel's presidential suite includes sweeping views of the city with floor-to-ceiling windows, two bedrooms, Bang and Olufsen electronics, a soundproof media room, private dining room and even a wine cellar - a first for a Trump hotel, Petrus says.
Recession-era modifications?
Since the tower was under construction during the recession, I asked Petrus if the hotel is missing any luxury touches to save money.
But Petrus said that the wine cellar is just one example of how the developers decided not to let the recession alter the plan.
Details such as moldings, onyx work and murals - things that could have easily been dropped from the budget without guests ever noticing - were intentionally kept, he says. Guest rooms also have high-end Nespresso coffee machines.
"They have not made any concessions. In fact, they have gone even further," Petrus says. "They're long-range thinkers."
You'll have to wait until spring to have lunch or dinner on the hotel's small terrace, but there are other options: A lobby bar that specializes in martini and the hotel's restaurant on the 31st floor called Stock. The restaurant's led by Todd Clarmo, the former corporate chef at Oliver and Bonacini Restaurants.
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At the same time, the women of Paradise are being threatened by a tormented voyeur, dubbed "The Night Hawk," who's been scouring suburban neighborhoods as evening falls. Initially he's content to simply peer through windows, but as pressure builds, he becomes more reckless, entering homes, forcing his victims to strip at gunpoint, then photographing them at their most vulnerable. And according to the notes he's sending, he's not satisfied to stop there. It's up to Jesse to catch the Night Hawk, before it's too late.
©2009 Robert B Parker; (P)2009 Random House
"author can't remember his story lines"
I've enjoyed Robert parker books but this book has messed up both the Jesse stone and the Sonny Randall series for me. Mr parker only needs to go back to the last 2 Sonny Randall books to realize that he has messed the plot line in night and day because he wanted to get rid of Jen and bring Sonny Randall back as a love interest. So he merely pretends the last 2 Sonny Randall books don't exist and uses her in the story line while pretending that she and her ex husband are not seeing one another. My question to mr Parker is since Richie was mas married and divorced from his wife during the last 2 Sonny Randall books and he had given it all up for Sonny, have you married him off again? I enjoyed one Sonny Randall and her brief affair with Jesse and her appearance in several other books but I'm soory that I bought this book and probably won't be buying anymore books in the Jesse Stone series until he gets his plot lines straight.
"Typical Parker"
I enjoyed Night and Day. But then, i'm a big Parker Fan. Jesse Stone is right up there with Spencer for Parker fans. The story isn't anyhting special but Parker is second to none when it comes to dialog!
"Fair to Midlin' Parker"
Robert B Parker is a master at tight storylines, great characters and perfect dialogue.
This is standard Parker -- exactly what you expect, with a lot of sex driven stuff that makes me think maybe he's working out some issues.
The story is listenable...but like most of Parker's stuff, it's over way too soon -- which I suppose is a good thing.
"Night and Day"
A fun read.
Look upward and see the wonders I've seen
"An enjoyable book"
Yes. I read many of Robert Parker's Spenser series years ago. I really enjoyed his style of writing and the dialogue. The only thing about the Spenser novels I disliked was the Spenser/Susan relationship. The only thing I dislike about the Jesse Stone novels, you guessed it, the Jesse/Jen relationship. Although this time, it appears that the author agees with me ... finally. I love the supporting characters of these books and how they enrich the storylines. I with there could be more, as I only recently stumbled upon this series.
Some of Parker's earlier Spenser novels. I like the character of Jesse Stone. I think he is Parker at his best. H
This is the first time I listened to James Naughton's performance and I found it enhanced the storyline, although the Bahston accents were a little overdone. I'm a lifelong Bostonian but if you met me, I don't tawk the way they do!
"Good story, classic Robert Parker"
Liked the story, liked the reader. For audio format, should consider omitting the "he said", "she said" tags. In the written format, they are indicators of who is talking. In the audio format, this goal could be achieved by voice inflection of the reader, with less distraction from the story.
"Great characters"
I am a fan of the made for TV movies starring Tom Selleck. I've seen three of them. As I listen to these books I see the characters from the movies.
No spoiling here
He does a little New England accenting of the spoken lines
No, but very enjoyable
Highly recommended
I have been a devoted fan of the Parkers and it makes me sad to give this book such a bad rating.
The school story line was implausible. Out of touch with reality. The actions of the principal would have drawn instant reprisal from any school board. The book seemed to be thrown together in an attempt to make a quick buck. Strike outs are to be expected and we are waiting until the next book hits the ball out of the park.
"He Said, She Said"
I have read many books by this author but this is the first one I have listened to and I had to stop because I couldn't stand hearing, "He said," "She said". My goodness, couldn't the reader have improvised a bit! It was soooo distracting, I had to stop listening to the book so that was wasted money for me.
"He said, She said, He said"
I could not finish this book for the horrible repetition of 'he said' and ' she said' after just about every sentence. I think that if this was edited out the book would be about 2 hours long. I cannot believe that this was in any way edited by anybody with anything above a 3rd grade education. It would be a good story otherwise.
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The South African Senior Women's National team (Banyana Banyana) has settled down well as the squad prepares for the annual 12-Nation Cyprus Women's Cup that takes place at the Tasos Marajou Stadium in Paralimi from Wednesday 6 – 13 March 2013 in Cyprus.
Head coach of the Sasol sponsored senior Women's National team, Joseph Mkhonza is impressed by the showing of all of his players who have reported for camp and is the first to admit selecting the final 22 players will not be an easy task.
Mkhonza will be without the services of all three international based players in Nompumelelo Nyandeni, Kylie-Ann Louw and Roxanne Barker for the coming assignment.
Nyandeni has pulled out of the Banyana squad due to club commitments as her Russian club, Rossiyanka is preparing to take part in the quarter-finals of the UEFA Women's Champions League. Kylie and Roxanne who play their club football in the United States will not be joining the national squad due to study commitments.
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P90X3 – The Complete Review: Part 3 of 3
By Jean Paul Fender
This is it! The final segment of the world's most popular no nonsense P90X3 review! Thus far we've covered a ton of workouts plus the Nutrition Guide but now the end is in sight. So let's get down to business and see what the last six workouts have in store.
This is the hardest part of yoga: balance postures. This is where true core/balance will be developed. Isometrix will also expose your weaknesses because while anyone can lift a dumb-bell, it takes work to get exceptional balance.
Like I said, Isometrix is similar to yoga, minus all the vinyasas and salutations. Each position lasts for 45 seconds and you'll have to work hard for all of it. Sadly, one of the hardest moves was Inner Balance: merely going one one leg while having the eyes closed. For the life of me I could not stay still without resetting myself like a drunk driver trying to walk the line. I eagerly await to see if I can make any progress in this area.
Tony says that coming down is where injury happens and as someone who has personally jumped out of a two story barn loft, I can totally back that up. Decelerator is all about getting your body stronger for those landings. The format for this thirty minutes is 16 moves with no repeats.
I highly…no…I freaking beg you to start with some form of pull-up assist. If you somehow can do an uninterrupted set of Elevator Pull-Ups with no actual problems whatsoever then remind me never to piss you off. Regular use of the Decelerator workout will have no choice but to make your pull/push up life easier in the long run. Given the format of the moves involved, this would best be described as Chest, Back and Legs.
Accelerator has a lot to do with cardio intervals: same move at two different speeds. Each move is 60 seconds with only a short break in between.
This is one of my preferred cardio routines from Tony, my primary one being Med Ball Core Cardio from his One on One series. Come to think of it, a medicine ball here would have really intensified the workout, so if you have the endurance give it a try.
I'm trying to articulate the difference between Tony and Shaun T when it comes to cardio. With Shaun you have strong music presence, the flow never stops and there's often high energy with a sense of urgency in the time given. With Tony you're more aware of what you're doing and the flow has breaks. Whichever you prefer is all based on personal taste. Mrs. Parrot prefers Tony for cardio due to the more casual atmosphere and more options to modify whereas I prefer Shaun for the no-nonsense and rhythm.
Anyway, Accelerator is an exponential improvement over Cardio X ( not much isn't ). Just watch the last move, "Donkey Kick". It's either easy, or you will misjudge the kick and perform an unintended backflip.
As luck would have it I saved the office party photos that had a co-worker in an incriminating "position". He has thus allowed me to borrow his expansion pack DVD's and brand new chainsaw with no questions asked. Yes, P90X3 has 3 extra workouts not included in the Basic package.
Complex Lower is actually rather simple in execution. It is 5 moves in a style very reminiscent of P90X2 Post Activation Potentiation. It starts with a weighted move, explosive weight action, plyo, weighted combo, and finally an isometric posture. This sequence in turn is done 4x.
The workout has an entirely different plan of attack than Eccentric Lower which focuses on negatives. This goes right for the deep tissue muscle and will probably be better for endurance. All in all, a great way to mix it up on days where legs are on the schedule.
Like Complex Lower, Upper is a sequence 4 exercises done in sequence and then repeated 3x.
I already made a comment about the toughness of Jessica in Part 2 of this review, so I best not push my luck returning to that well for the sake of comedy lest Xena Warrior Princess grind my manhood like old Silly Putty. So instead I'll just say Shawn is a man who is very comfortable with his choice in socks.
Complex Upper is a 5 move sequence done 3x with a final balls-to-the-wall bonus round at the end. There is less PAP here and more fast move/slow move in the form of pull-ups and push-ups. If I had a complaint here, it would be the Lunge Thrust Press which is a plyo shoulder press. It feels very out of place having a leg jump in a workout meant for upper body. That having been said, you can always improvise and make it a straight up shoulder press.
I have to speak once more of the music. The music in Complex Upper makes it feel like you're ripping heads off Road Warriors while riding on the back of a Dinobot. The whole thing combined with the actual intensity of the workout makes for a sensational 30 minutes so once again, hats off to the music crew.
Fifteen minutes of abdominal torture. This is pure heck on the midsection so take everything you knew about former Ab-Rippers and forget it. After this, the next AB Ripper is probably going to involve a Kung Fu master dropping coconuts on your midsection from a tree.
X3 Ab Ripper might only be 8 moves but that just means you get less of a break. So while the classic P90X Ab Ripper might have more moves it also pauses more to get your bearings. The postures are also more intense because although they seem somewhat easy at first, the burn comes fast and it increases exponentially due to isometrics and duration! That means moves like Bridge Burners make good old Mason Twist look like a tummy tickle. Just remember, form is king here.
Compared to other ab workouts such as Asylum, T25 or Insanity, X3 hold it's own pretty good. It really just comes down to a matter of taste on how you want to get the job done that day.
You want it? P90X3 has it all. It's really hard sometimes to fully explain just how ahead of the pack Beachbody can sometimes be when they truly put their minds to the task. Especially when it involves their current duo of golden boys, Shaun T and for P90X3, Tony Horton.
As with many of their top sellers, Beachbody really puts their heart and soul into making a great product, not just a quick and forgettable one. For example, when a lot of posers do music, it is a sad afterthought developed by kids with Garageband. In P90X3 is is made after the workout and synced with the action so well it just blends naturally. The sets and lighting are also painstakingly designed to make the experience easy on the eyes. And of course, the cast are highly competent individuals who have actually done the workouts before and are not lost celebrities just brought in for name brand recognition. Cough…TAPOUT XT…cough…
After Focus T25, I really understood just how awesome it is to be able to get half hour workouts into a schedule because you can't always get an hour. X3 fits that need about as perfectly as one could ask. Combine this with Focus T25 and my friend, you will have a quality daily routine that makes little to no compromises.
But the big question remains…is the DELUXE PACKAGE worth the extra cost? For 3 extra workouts and a couple of resistance bands, I have a hard time justifying an almost doubling in price. And while I do like the bonus workouts, I honestly feel my fitness life will certainly not suffer without them. Also. to buy them after the fact is a sphincter tightening three payments of $30. For me and my budget, I would pass.
The final score for P90X3 is a solid 5 Feathers out of 5. It's hard to go wrong with the entire P90X series based on the care taken with every detail of the production. P90X2 at this stage remains my favorite ( 6 Feathers! ) due to the cutting edge ideas behind it but make no mistake, you will be a very satisfied customer with X3.
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- Mr.doucheBag
Hey you are hilarious. I have BB, p90x3 and T25. I am quite unfit and lack muscle man for a 30 year old dude. Do you recommend doing one program like p90x Mass schedule or a combination of all three to get the best result .i.e. get mass with an all around fitness?
- http://dysfunctionalparrot.com Dysfunctional Parrot
Well Mr…uh…Douchebag?…depending on your level of unfitness I would probably start with T25 to get your heart up to speed. I would then move to P90X3 but swap out the cardio days for T25, and then graduate to the occasional Body Beast. I like Body Beast, but it is not a "total" fitness concept. It is best mixed with other programs.
Have fun with your training Douchebag!! ( the one and only time I can call someone that and NOT have it be insulting! )
- babycow
Hi, loved your review! I would also add to mr douchebag that these programs are put together in a specific order and combination that has been worked out by fitness experts to ensure you are working different body parts on different days, getting enough rest between working the same body part, getting the right amount of muscle confusion, etc etc. So, while any workout is better than none, trying to put together a hodge podge from the various programs you have probably won't offer the same results as doing a complete program in the order it's meant to be done.
- Mr.doucheBag
Hey you are hilarious. I have BB, p90x3 and T25. I am quite unfit and lack muscle man for a 30 year old dude. Do you recommend doing one program like p90x Mass schedule or a combination of all three to get the best result .i.e. get mass with an all around fitness?
- Guest
Thank you for your honest and hilarious reviews they are great reads! I have been following your reviews since P90X2 and they are informative and I agree with everything you say.
Thanks again!
- McSugarBombs
Does the X3 Ab Ripper has its own schedule on P90X3? I mean on P90X it was done every other day, so is it the same for P90X3? And what about those who can only afford the Basic package? Are they left out without the X3 Ab Ripper?
Sorry I just really need to know as you see I have been a P90X grad and I feel incomplete without any Ab Ripper Exercise for the P90X3 and I know most of the P90X grad would agree to that as Ab Ripper X is one of the most viewed workouts in the P90X series since it is done every other day.
So what's your take?
- http://dysfunctionalparrot.com Dysfunctional Parrot
Regarding AB Ripper X3…unless you're doing doubles it is oddly enough not in the Classic or Lean schedule. And yes, it is only available as part of the Deluxe and Ultimate kits unless you decide to shell out nearly $90 for three workouts…which in my opinion is lunacy. The new X3 Abs is good, but it's just another ab routine among many to choose from. For the insane price of the extra disks, shell out a few extra bucks and get Focus T25…much better use of money!
- McSugarBombs
Yeah what a bummer. I really feel incomplete without AB Exercises. I have done P90X, P90X+ and even Power 90 and they all incorporate AB Exercises.. Seems like Beachbody is cashing in on customers to pay extra just for the AB Exercises.
- Doug
I have P90X, P90XPLUS, P90X3 (with the 3 extra workouts) & the Ten Minute Trainer. I try to do abs 4-5 days a week. I find that rotating them works out very well. I must say that the most intense might well be the 10 minute trainer AB, or, it is right up there with the X3.
- McSugarBombs
Nice you just gave me a nice idea to mix things up. Variety is the key!
- Collons
If you don't know the '10 Minute Trainer' Ab workout you can find it on Youtube (I first saw it posted on the official P90X3 Facebook page so it must be a legal upload). I started doing it instead of X3 Ab Ripper and it's really intense.
- McSugarBombs
But would you really recommend that over X3 ab ripper?
- Collons
In my post I meant to say that I started doing it instead of X2 ab ripper. For me it's better than both 1 and 2 because it's fast moves like X1 but with more variety: dynamic sphinx plank / mountain climber / crunch types moves, for example. I thought X2 wasn't challenging enough and from what I've heard of the X3 version is that it's hard, but very isometric (like X2). I used to like the P90X+ Ab workout also but it didn't take long to be able to do it pretty easily.
If I had to choose one from all of them I'd stay with the 10 minute version and I reckon it would be a very suitable routine to slip into the X3 routines, as it's short! I've done it loads of time but it's still really pushes me at the end. It may be a question of taste but I prefer the fast moves to the isometric "hold and turn" type of ab exercise.
- moonstar
It is not necessary to be honest he includes core working exercises and it is not on the plan at all. The workouts will be enough. Im guessing it's helpful for the last week if one decides to give a good extra push.
- Vivek
Awesome Review! I also feel the 3 workouts for $90 isn't really worth it. I've been doing ARX / Ab Intvls etc for abs. Missed the abs too much.
- Enrique
Admittedly, I am new to the P90x game. I have worked out with weights and cardio for much of my life. I am pretty strong and am in reasonable shape from a cardiovascular perspective but my question(s) are as follows: 1) Do you recommend a particular pull-up bar? && 2) I do not own any dumb-bells and have no idea what to purchase (with regard to poundage and P90x or P90x3 for that matter. One of the prevailing reasons I don't own any is because I use so many different weights depending on body part, e.g. 20lb for shoulders, or 45 for bicep, or 85 for chest, etc. I am just wondering what I would need to purchase in order to successfully complete the program. What would you tell me or someone similar to get? My thanks in advance.
- http://dysfunctionalparrot.com Dysfunctional Parrot
1) Pullup bars: Either get a dedicated pull-up bar station or one that extends outside the doorframe ( like the P90X pull up bar or similar ). Do NOT use the cheap ones that are just a straight bar across the door frame as those are useless. I make mention and demonstrate this in a video I made called ROAD to P90X2:
2) As for dumb-bells, I get by with a 10-35 lbs set no problem, only rarely going after 40 and up.
- elctronyc
Thanks for the review. I am 6.2 feet and 230lb. I am worried about my belly fat. I have 40 inch of waist :( poor me. In one week im going to start the 90×3 since is perfect for me to do in the morning. I have been doing dumbbell workout (2 days) combine with the insane fast and furious workout (3 days). I love to use dumbbells. Do you think is a good idea to combine the body beast with the 90×3 or Should I stick with the 90X3? I want to loose some fat and get some muscle.
- http://dysfunctionalparrot.com Dysfunctional Parrot
I often do what you are describing! Mixing it up is great and I'm sure your modified schedule will help you get the results you want while still being fun!
- Val
I am a 41 year old 5'5″ and 224 pounds mother with 6 yr old twins. I don't have a lot of time so this P903X looks like a good fit for me. I need to get in shape and wanted to ask if starting with this is the way to go. I want the results and willing to work for them. I am getting an elliptical from a friend to start building up my cardio and I want something I can do in a short time frame. Do I have to get a chin-up bar – I don't have a place for it to go, will the resistance band and weights be enough? Thank you for any help.
- http://dysfunctionalparrot.com Dysfunctional Parrot
You have 2 options that I see will fit your needs: P90X3 which is a total body program, or Focus T25 which is a heavier cardio program but a serious use of 25 minutes. My wife loves T25!
If you want extreme cardio that still occasionally uses weights, T25 is the one you should look at. If you want a more rounded fitness philosophy, P90X3.
I love your reviews! I just started X3 and really appreciate your recommendations for T25 in rotation with this program. You didn't really say much about the Super Burpees which I am still having nightmares about… *shiver* I guess I'm just a wimp.
- Ricky
Definitely a good review in all parts. The is one minor detail I respectfully disagree with but its certainly subective. And thats when u said total synergistics was easier than core syn. I found this entire series is as hard as you want to make it. Now I'm in excellent shape but I found myself almost meeting Pukey the Clown after total syn. But thats just bc i chose weights and tempos that would get me to that point. Like I said, very subjective but i just wanted to share. Great writing as always DP.
- Garyd_Ireland
Hi, nice review :)
I already have the original P90X and I think it'd great, but just really hard to find the time to do it often enough. I like the legs routine and the biceps routine…. In P90X3, is this also good for those wanting to improve on muscle size too or its it more a total body fitness thing and I'd need to keep referring back to some old p90x DVDs as well? Thanks, Gary
- MR. Beer
While I love your reviews and honestly agree with just about every review you do, i really cannot stomach P90X3. I've had it since it came out and really only lasted a week and half before I got tired of Tony Horton (granted I felt the same way about P90X but lasted a bit longer). I've tried almost every beach body system (P90X, P90X, Pump, Combat ,Insanity, T25) and love most of them. Insanity and the Les Mills ones seem top notch, but honestly I just cant get around Tony..maybe I just dont like the guy.
- http://dysfunctionalparrot.com Dysfunctional Parrot
I really do understand. Tony is one of those like him or loathe him types. For the most part I dig him but yes…there are days where the antics can try my patience. Admittedly, I find myself often preferring T25 over X3 when it comes to half hour workouts just because Shaun T is more business and I'm not there for the comedy. Depends on my mood that day!
- I wish I could dunk!
Awesome review & funny! Love it!
Mr Parrot, whats your opinion on doing a morning session of T25 and in the evening P90X3 (Mass)?
i'm 6'0″ and 207lbs. I'd like to lose fat and bulk up.
- Sean Callahan
Haha! Loved the reviews man. No love for the socks uh? ;)
- Dan H
18/40?? Seriously bro? Simply amazing… don't know how you did it but I tip my hat! How did you get to be able to do so many pull-ups?
- Joe
Great review. I have been doing P90X and P90X2 over the last four years. P90X2 is my favorite program but I wanted some variety in my fitness and some new moves.. This program is fun, fun, fun! And I think it is an excellent maintenance workout for any P90X or X2 grads. But eventually you will need to go back to X or X2 or I fear there will be diminishing returns instead of maintenance. I plan to go back to P90X2 after going through the 90 days of X3 one time and of course doing my before and after photos to get my free t-shirt. I'm thinking a hybrid of all three programs would be fun. Sort of a Tony Horton's Greatest Hits. I think my recovery week for X2 will include some workouts from X3 such as the Challenge and the Warrior. .
- Jai Jai
Love the review … today during my X3 was wondering what happened to our old buddies Jason Scheff and Mason Bendenwald. I like the music in X3 but it's a little "cute" for me; Jason's stuff was always more straightforward. Equally in sync with the workouts but a less gimmicky on the breaks etc. And how come there are different directors now … as I was wondering this, Tony introduced Bridge Burners …. "BRIDGE BURNERS … You know who you are! …. And it has ended!"
Coincidence? What says the Parrot?
I am currently doing p90x3. 2 questions: 1) would t25 make a better next step or
P90x; and 2) do you have plans to review UFC Fit?
- http://dysfunctionalparrot.com Dysfunctional Parrot
T25 is absolutely a great program and I love how it can compliment X3. I've actually had a few requests for UFC Fit so it looks like I'm going to check into that sooner rather than later!
- Jason Voorhees
Parrot, I'm an in shape 40 year old dude and have seen your posts and love them. I also saw you doing a PAP lower review where you were doing a step up not on a chair, but a 3 inch box or platform from the floor. I'm totally spent from doing CVX so your review of that workout comes with a huge asterisk because of the intensity you bring to some of the workouts. I haven't met an X3 workout that was easy in any way…
- McSugarBombs
Nice one Jean, now I know why I can't visit your blog a few hours ago https://www.facebook.com/BeachBodyTony/posts/622336271859?stream_ref=1
- http://dysfunctionalparrot.com Dysfunctional Parrot
I've been meaning to upgrade my hosting package for a few weeks now but never got around to it! Tony got me moving pretty darn quick though yesterday!!
- Madalina Kozushka
Loved your review on P90x3 Mr.JPF. Read around your site, like your thinking and your writing very much! Although…Dysfunctional Parrot…is a little too "much thought/researched" of a title to me. I like the KISS system!
Anyways, happy to have discovered you, I'm a big fan! You have fans in Saskatchewan I guess!
- http://dysfunctionalparrot.com Dysfunctional Parrot
The name ""dysfunctional parrot" was more of a joke name I came up with back in 2008 when this site had little to nothing to do with fitness, but was rather a socio-political satire blog. The name was chosen from a lineolated parakeet that liked to hump slippers. I've since abandoned the world commentary flavor as there's too many sites that do that already without me weighing in with my dumb opinion too.
A lot changed since then, but the name kind of followed me. I'm stuck with it now, but had I known the road this site would take I no doubt would have come up with something simpler!
And greetings to Saskatchewan! I'm originally from Manitoba so we're like kin!
- Senji
- Senji
How to create the perfect Body Beast p90x3 hybrid?
- Allen
I'm trying to do exactly that, but it's tough since BB is so muscle specific, and P90X3 is very synergistic. I think it's probably better to take the workouts in blocks, instead of combining them.
- felixladybug
Hi there! So I'll be ordering soon, but I don't have a pull up bar, or anywhere to put one in my apartment. Is there a modifier in place of the pull ups? Thanks!!
- goughrmak
You will need somewhere to attach bands, and you can use those for your pullups.
- felixladybug
Thanks for your reply! I do have a pair of 15 lb resistance bands from T25, but I have no idea what I would attach them to! Do you mean attach them to something overhead?
- goughrmak
We have a nylon strap that goes around a door hinge that the bands will loop through. You could easily use rope, or even strong shoe strings to make something to go around the hinge (just not the band itself).
- felixladybug
I'm all set – thanks for your help – just ordered this from amazon! http://www.amazon.com/dp/B005TJMJBA/ref=pe_385040_30332190_TE_3p_M3T1_ST1_dp_1
- Wrynsky169
Hello. Your reviews are absolutely hilarious. I am a teenager, and I am already in ok shape, so I am doing P90X3. My goal is to get a six pack, and I am doing the classic phase. I am getting ok results so far at 30 days, (more defined four pack, slightly bigger biceps, bigger lats from pull-ups, etc.) I started from a slightly defined stomach that had only four abs, but that's not what I want. How much longer will it take for me to get results like the people in the infomercials? Or is that even possible for a teenager? If it is, is there anything I am doing wrong?
Thank you,
- http://dysfunctionalparrot.com Dysfunctional Parrot
You have to remember something about infomercials…they are generally BS. The people are hand selected special cases to show the absolute pinnacle from people who have often been blessed with simply better genetics.
Take myself for example. I've been doing workout video reviews for at least six years. While I am in better shape than when I started and doing pretty good, I am not going to make the infomercials any time soon.
My final advice is this…having a teenager body is not the same as having an adult body. You will not get the same defined muscles as an adult who is not held back by hormone changes, growth spurts and well…teenage eating habits! Train, do what you can, but don't fall into the trap of obsessing about your looks. If you're not satisfied with yourself without big muscles, you'll never be satisfied with them.
- Mflores
I really liked your blog. After reading this, I love you. LOL
- Andrew Locke
I am concerned about the time. Are they claiming that you can get as much of a workout in p90x3 with 30 minutes as p90x 1 and 2? I understand that many people have difficult schedules and 30 minutes is all they can afford, but I have developed the habit of affording myself at least an hour to work out. I wouldn't want to short change myself just to try the next p90x.
- http://dysfunctionalparrot.com Dysfunctional Parrot
The claims are a little cryptic. Think of diminishing returns. The greatest gains they claim in most workouts are in the first 30 minutes and then diminishes afterwards.
So a full 1 hr workout would absolutely be better for you, and I still recommend it. P90X3 mainly wants to appeal to those on a time crunch and does a fine job of making the most of its time. But still, if you can do a more solid workout like the original P90X I think you'd be better for it.
- Joe
I've read some other reviews that say you can't get as good results with X3 compared to p90x. I've only started x3 recently (based on reading your review) and from my experience, since I am ratcheting up the intensity, my muscles and body feel great.
I don't know if that will translate into "results", I don't have much weight to lose, but would like to tone up.
Since I trust your reviews and opinions, what do you think?
- http://dysfunctionalparrot.com Dysfunctional Parrot
"Results" are kind of hard to nail down as it can often be a subjective measurement! Personally I feel P90X will provide more strength while X3 has better flexibility, cardio and core. I was never impressed by the cardio options of P90X but when it came to pull ups, push ups and weights it is still king of the pile.
Take the strength of P90X, mix in the core of X3 and the cardio of T25 or Asylum and you would have the ultimate program.
- Hawkman
Agree, I've been trying to add X3 at the end of P90X(I modify a lot, so take that into consideration), since there is a variety of great quasi-cardio workouts in it.
- Shiner
Hey there. Great reviews, appreciate your effort (and style, very readable!).
Just wondering if you'd encountered Athlean-X, and had any views on how it compares to P90X3? I've done P90X and am a fan of Tony Horton, but the idea of 30minute exercises is a big draw – and also something that Athlean-X offers.
Many thanks.
- http://dysfunctionalparrot.com Dysfunctional Parrot
I have noticed the Athlean-X system in the past and am giving it serious consideration for a review in the not so distant future. It makes pretty bold claims and even goes after P90X by name. Gutsy move!
Right now I'm finishing up DDP Yoga and will draw straws for who is next. Maybe I should make a poll! Now I have to see how to do that…
- Mike
Great reviews! Good writing. I've been toying with purchasing X3, but it appears from the infomercial and some of the video reviews that many of the moves involve some form of jumping or plyo. I'm an "older athlete" and need to be conscious of my knees (various strains and tears over the years). Is that accurate or am I just seeing sort of the highlight reel? Are there modifications that can still give a decent workout in 30 minutes?
- http://dysfunctionalparrot.com Dysfunctional Parrot
I would say you're probably just seeing highlights. I would say X3 is very low impact on the joints overall with maybe the exception of the X3 Plyo workout. But even that is nothing compared to Insanity which I can say from experience, is quite hard on the joints.
Tony almost always has one person in the cast who performs the moves modified and I would say most are very easy to change to meet your needs. This is a great program all-around and if you really feel like cranking the cardio up, add Focus T25 to the mix.
- hulk o
you are going to think i am mad but would it be too much to do a p90x insanity hybrid program and at nights or evening do the p90x3 workout. that would be 2 workouts day.
- http://dysfunctionalparrot.com Dysfunctional Parrot
Just be sure to pay good attention to your calorie intake and get good sleep!
liked the review bro!
well Im 27 , 5 11′ & around 165 lbs. Insanity graduate, Insanity Asylum graduate, & was in great shape after that. haha…. looks like giving a bio :D
well couldnt continue with the fitness thing since jan & went out of shape, its not that bad though but it is approaching towards looking bad with fat showing its existance. And I do believe diet does play big part, which helped me in my first run. But being an Indian, here in India its not easy with this diet thing with all your favourite food.(I know…. but :D)
ammm…. what I am asking is this is 30 minutes! so thats like a thumbs up for me as hardly get time before I leave for work. But I am used to doing those one hour workouts with shaun T & when I restarted doing those, since i have changed my job its difficult handle the timings.
So, does it have same impact as insanity, or just something u can do in 30 mins. I mean it was fun telling my friends that for asylum u need to be insanity graduate first. but here there is no such condition.
thanks, Abhijit
- http://dysfunctionalparrot.com Dysfunctional Parrot
My wife cooks East Indian food and yes, it is hard to walk away from seconds!
All P90X3 workouts with the exception of X3 Abs are 30 minutes. Comparing it to Insanity is difficult as they are not really the same class of workout. Insanity is power-cardio and X3 is more resistance training. Shaun T has always been better at cardio and Tony has been better at "functional fitness".
Another package to look at if time is n issue is Focus T25 with Shaun T. If you take than and combine it with X3 you have a kick-butt system right there!
In fact I have Focus T25, just never got to try it.
Felt like mild workout (i was still on asylum highness, & ik great shape). But now as it seems I should give it a try.
Now let me see where I can find a hybrid. Or make my own.
- Wrynsky169
Hey DP, I have been wondering if you could review Athlean-X. I am 13 and have already done X3, and got very ripped from it. I am thinking of getting something else, and that brought me to Athlean-X. I am also thinking of getting Asylum 1 & 2 because they are hard programs, and I am in great shape and able to tackle them. But I am wondering if Athlean-X can pack on muscle like a more muscle specific program like Body Beast as it claims to. So can you please do a review of that program? (just letting you know, it isn't normal workout videos, but an online portal of excercises for the day.
Thank you,
- http://dysfunctionalparrot.com Dysfunctional Parrot
I've been looking at Athlean X but am wondering how I would incorporate something like that into my workout schedule. It doesn't seem to be a set package but rather an ongoing set of videos.
I'll ask around with some of my other partners in fitness and see if they have had any experience with Athlean X. In either case I may well consider the program even though a review would only be based on a portion of the existing videos. If I did, a late July review might be the estimated time-frame.
If you're looking to just "get big", Body Beast is still a good bet. Getting big isn't rocket science as you just need to eat right and lift heavy things a lot. Full-body fitness is more in depth as it requires you to be flexible, fast and still strong.
Hey DP just like to point out that Athlean-X as well as all other Athlean programs can be downloaded as a PDF and printed out. Not to mention that the online portal is very user friendly and well made. The calendar is one of the best I have ever seen in a workout program. You should really give it a chance and make a review for it. Trust me you'll be impressed with and the community will benefit too.
- KyleG
Hi there DP,
I'm currently on the second month of insanity and looking to jump into the P90x workouts after I complete Insanity. I intend to eventually do all P90x x2 and x3, my question is which order do you recommend doing them? I know x2 is the graduate program but just curious what order you think I should complete them in,
- http://dysfunctionalparrot.com Dysfunctional Parrot
You can go for X2 which would be a natural progression. X3 is not so much a step up as it is just shorter in length although some workouts in X3 are better than the original X by a long shot ( MMA for example ). All in all, X2 is a good next step and I really like the program.
If you're feeling spunky, a round of Asylum would be a way to mix things up too.
- KyleG
Thanks a lot for the help! Yeah I might go for asylum next actually haha
- Seth Foster
Great review. Thanks! I just completed (today!) three cycles of T25 (including Gamma) and am looking for something to keep it fresh. I travel a fair bit for work, so need to have something that can work on the road. T25 with the resistance band really worked for me, even when traveling. I was considering DDP Yoga or P90x3, but am a bit concerned with the need for a chinning bar in x3. Any thoughts or recommendations?
Thanks again…
- Eric
I am starting P90X3 the first week in August. I am finishing the Asylum I & II Hybrid, and am looking forward to doing one of the P90X programs for the first time. I've done Insanity, Asylum I & II, and T25 Alpha Beta Gamma. I appreciate your reviews, and have a question. I received a bonus with my X3 order, P90X+, and was wondering if you thought the Upper+ & Core+ could replace at least two of the three P90X3 bonus workouts? I see your review of them (P90X+ DVDs), and thought that might be a thought for these – since I don't have the original P90X and would like to get some use out of these if possible. Also, it would not hurt to save some cash.
- http://dysfunctionalparrot.com Dysfunctional Parrot
The bonus disks with X3 are nice, but hardly necessary. The ab workout in T25 is far better and Upper/Lower Body workouts in Asylum kick the pants off X3.
P90X+ has a very good core workout which is also better than X3. The Upper Body Plus is good but not quite the same idea as Eccentric Upper. That having been said, I highly doubt you would notice any difference in results.
And finally, the bonus disks are a little expensive for what you get. Better to shell out a few more bucks and get a full-program than a mere three workouts.
- Eric
Thanks. I'll give it a run and add the X+ and T25 ab's as needed. Hopefully I'll enjoy Tony Horton's humor as much as Shaun T's intensity. You all keep up the reviews. I'm thinking about the Les Mills Combat/Pump hybrid for the end of year after X3 — after reading your reviews I think the mix will avoid the monotony you described in LM Pump, but I'll have to think about the music dilemma you described (37 years old, shrug). If you've solved or discovered a way around the music conundrum you described in the LM Combat review, in a way that does not hurt the workout rhythm, please share with the rest of us.
Thanks again.
- Kevin
DP- I must say, it's a breath of fresh air to see an actual independent reviewer for these programs. However, it's a little overwhelming how many options are out there! I was a graduate of both P90x and Insanity about 5 years ago? Sad to say, but I've gained quite a few pounds since then. But, now I'm looking to jump back on the band wagon. I did p90x3 this week with a friend and it was not bad. However, I don't feel nearly as close to the soreness as I did with the other programs the day after. Any thoughts on this? Should I just keep at it, or do you recommend I go back to the other programs or trying a different one? (I love the fact that p90x3 is only 30 mins though). My goal is just to shed a some pounds and gain a little bit of muscle. Thanks!
- pastone15
Block 1 of p90x3 really eases you in. I had the same reservations as you, initially. I'm in the middle of Block 2 now, and the soreness is really kicking in. I love it so far, and can see both aesthetic gains, in terms of tighter abs and more defined muscles, as well as tangible strength gains. I really think that Block 1 helps you prepare for the intensity of Block 2. I highly recommend it.
- Kevin
Thanks for the reply pastone. I'm definitely enjoying p90x3 more in week 2 now that I have been through all the exercises and improving my form. I will stick with it, at least until block 2. Thanks for the heads up. I'll let you know my results.
- Adedotun.
Hi DP, this is the best review of beachbody products on the net by a mile. I have done insanity(stopped 2nd month week 3 landed awkwardly after a diamond jump) kept my diet on point didn't lose much weight but lost inches everywhere, I got t25 and X3, really like cardio I wanna add resistance training. I was wandering what your ideal hybrid for t25 and X3 would be for weight loss and muscle building . Which exercises should I swap out keeping focus on resistance? Thanks sir.
I did P90X. But I can't work out for 90+ min every day anymore! So I got P90X3. Holy cow it's so different and I'm confused. It's not broken down by body parts like P90X was, which is really confusing. Why is it like that? Secondly there's a separate warm up video. So not all excises include WU before getting into it? I have to play the separate WU video first then play the workout I want to do? Lastly, the nutrition guide is not as strict and very vague. Not sure if I like that. But then again I didn't really followed P90X nutrition guide word for word (that'd have driven me crazy!). Please get back to me if you can. thank you
- Bart
P90x3 is great, but actually i got better results with Athlean X, probably because i stuck to my diet. DP could you please make a review on Athlean X? That's true it does not have DVD what is a bit of shame but on the other hand it has pretty well illustrated PDF which makes is very mobile:) It is something between P90X3 and body beast. I really recommend this to try and review:) Thanks.
- Wrynsky169
Yeah, I'm getting great results with Athlean X. It is on an online calendar, but it is laid out really well, and I have more muscle size! DP, humor us and do a review after P90! You don't have to review every workout, (no two workouts are the same,) but give us an overview of, say every 2 weeks. Also, do a review of the 6 pack promise Shuffle Ab workout that comes with it! It gives the ab rippers a run for their money!! Also, in my opinion, the trainer Jeff is as good as Tony, but just in a different way. What do you think?
- http://dysfunctionalparrot.com Dysfunctional Parrot
I'm thinking an Athlean X review is going to have to be given some serious consideration very soon!
I would love to see a review of Athlen X. I get his videos weekly and he know his stuff. Hope to see you review it soon
- Wrynsky169
I totally agree! Jeff Caveliere is probably the best trainer on youtube, and he's not like those other idiots on Youtube, *cough cough Mike Chang. He never pushes any magic pills or supplements at all, (with the exception of Athlean RX supplements, but then again, if you've seen how Beachbody pushes Shakeology, he does barely anything in comparison.
- http://dysfunctionalparrot.com Dysfunctional Parrot
The only way I would review Mike Chang is if someone loaned me his stuff. No way I would put a nickel of my own money in that guys coffer.
I'm looking at Athlean for a review, but I have to say the idea of putting money down and not getting anything tangible is a bit of a deal killer. No DVD's…just online videos. I need to think that one over before going ahead.
- Wrynsky169
Couldn't have said it better myself. Mike Chang and his advertisements can fornicate themselves with a cactus. Anyway, on the topic of Athlean X, I understand your plight. Take your time and do it when you are ready. The review will probably be better that way.
- Shaq
Hi there, this is the first time in my life I'm actually trying to get in shape, I worked up a schedule using P90X as the base and incorporating P90X3 into it. It would be great if you could share your thoughts on it,
- http://dysfunctionalparrot.com Dysfunctional Parrot
I really like what you did there! If you really wanted to amp up your cardio days, consider throwing in a little T25. I'm in the middle of the Insanity: Max 30 review and that is balls-to-the-wall crazy when it comes to cardio, so be warned!
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Safiyah Fosua writes a great piece, primarily about worship… but I think it fits for other areas of the church as well.
What year is it in YOUR church?
Here's part of what she writes:
Should it matter to the Church what year it is? Why, aren't the music, the language, and the texts of the church timeless? We who lead churches know that the answer is both yes and no. Yes, there are some timeless qualities about the ethos of the Church. But, no, not everything is timeless. From time to time, the worship aids used by churches must be updated or adapted for new worshippers, while retaining meaning.
The original function of memorized or written liturgy was to give worshippers a tool to enter the presence of God. I invite you to also view songs sung in worship as a worship aid, atool to help congregants actually worship and come into the presence of a Holy God. How do we select music for the 21st century? Consider the following:
and the David Crowder Band provides a popular example of a mashup
What do YOU think?
What year is it in YOUR church?
"My Song in the Night" recently featured these two paragraphs from the book Doxology and Theology by Ken Boer:
"… some leaders (myself included) have believed that to be gospel-centered, every song we sing has to explicitly state the gospel, or more narrowly, substitutionary atonement. But we shouldn't be more gospel-centered than the Bible is. The Bible includes all kinds of topics, and our services and songs should address the full range of human experience.
"If the history of the universe is a movie, Christ's death and resurrection is the turning point of the movie. Don't let people grow dull by only ever playing the highlight reel. Let them see the whole movie! At the same time, don't be ashamed of going to the highlights again and again, because without them the rest of the movie doesn't make sense."
Have you ever thought about this?
How much of the complete gospel message do you require in all of the songs you sing in your worship service?
Is it possible you're being a bit legalistic in your approach?
Are you showing too much of the 'highlight reel' all the time?
Agree or Disagree?
"The mature worshiper is easily edified." When hearing lackluster (even if biblical) preaching, immatureworshipers will typically not listen to the message because they wish the messenger was more exciting. Conversely, mature worshipers eagerly receive the truth as it is proclaimed, even if it sounds like the preacher is reading a phone book.
Agree or disagree?
If I got up and read from Lamentations like Ben Stine for 50 minutes, is it right for me to think that you should be edified?
I certainly hope not.
(OK… hearing Ben Stine read Lamentations could actually be interesting).
And if you agree with the quote… why is all the burden on the worshipper? I could be really into Jesus and worship, but if you're reading from a phonebook, my mind is bound to wander.
How immature is THAT?
That is one of my favorite hymns from growing up.
This morning I received an email from Dan Koch, a member of the Christian band Wayfarer. The band 'repurposes hymns'.
According to Dan, "We do something a little different than most bands: we take lyric sets from old, largely forgotten hymns or Southern Spirituals, and we write entirely new music to those lyrics: melodies, chords, arrangements, etc. We call it "Repurposed Hymns"
I listened to their version of "Alas and Did My Savior Bleed" (that you can download here for free) and really liked it. Not sure what style I'd classify it as… but it was fresh and different.
Take a listen… Let me know what you think.
My friend Kent Shaffer has put together a really great resource for all you creative types. As Kent puts it, Environment can have a remarkable influence over how people feel, behave, and learn. So while nothing replaces the power of preaching the gospel and God's Word, a creative church set design can accomplish two things if done well:
What worship leaders/albums have had the most influence over the past 20 years? Well, Worship Leader Magazine has just released their list. You can see the whole list here.
Here are the top ten:
10. Passion: Better Is One Day
Passion Band
9. Pray
Andraé Crouch
8. Beautiful Things
Brash Music
7. Facedown
Matt Redman
6. United We Stand
Hillsong United
Hillsong/Integrity Music
5. Change My Heart Oh God
Vineyard Music
4. Live From Another Level
Israel Houghton
Integrity Music
3. A Greater Song
Paul Baloche
Integrity Music
2. Arriving
Chris Tomlin
1. Cutting Edge 1&2
Agree or disagree?
What shouldn't have made the list?
And what SHOULD have but didn't?
What's your FAVORITE worship album of all time personally?
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Click here to view the times and dates for the Fall 2014 group fitness classes offered through Madison College Fitness, Health & Recreation. All yoga classes will be held in room 131 in the Health Education Building.
Yoga:A physical practice that involves flow or moving with the breath series along with the holding of poses for balance and strength. The practice also includes learning breathing techniques and techniques for controlling thoughts and focus. Aspects of therapeutic yoga are also included. 55-minute class. All yoga classes will be held in room 131 in the Health Education Building.
Meet the instructor: Tammy Sytsma
Please click on the class that you are interested in registering for.
Schedule: Tuesday and Thursday at 11:30. Must purchase a membership or day pass to participate in the class.
Couch to 5k:
This training program aims to prepare you slowly to run a 5K race. It's a gentle introduction to getting the body moving, starting off alternating between walking and running small distances, and slowly building up until after 9 weeks, you're ready to run 5 kilometers. We will meet as a group once a week: two other trainings will need to complete on your own during the week. Program will include general running basics, strength training and stretching information. At the end, we will run the Turkey Trot race on Sunday, November 2nd.
We will meet on Wednesdays in Room 131 at the Truax Health Education Building and on Thursdays in room A1017Q.
To register for the Couch to 5K program, click on one of the links below:
Wednesdays at 4:45pm, September 3 - October 29
Thursdays at 12pm, September 4 - October 30
Contact Lisa Lanting (link sends e-mail).


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