text:
thread_types] [
until_option] [
thread_types: [
thread_type] ... ]
thread_type: IO_THREAD | SQL_THREAD
until_option: UNTIL { {SQL_BEFORE_GTIDS | SQL_AFTER_GTIDS} =
gtid_set| MASTER_LOG_FILE = '
log_name', MASTER_LOG_POS =
log_pos| RELAY_LOG_FILE = '
log_name', RELAY_LOG_POS =
log_pos| SQL_AFTER_MTS_GAPS }
connection_options: [USER='
user_name'] [PASSWORD='
user_pass'] [DEFAULT_AUTH='
plugin_name'] [PLUGIN_DIR='
uuid_set] ... | ''
h: [0-9,A-F]
n] (
n>= 1)
START SLAVE with no
thread_type options starts both of
the slave threads. The I/O thread reads events from the master
server and stores them in the relay log. The SQL thread reads
events from the relay log and executes them.
START SLAVE requires the
SUPER privilege.
START SLAVE succeeds in
starting the slave threads, it returns without any error.
However, even in that case, it might be that the slave threads
start and then later stop (for example, because they do not
manage to connect to the master or read its binary log, or some
other problem).
START SLAVE does
not warn you about this. You must check the slave's error log
for error messages generated by the slave threads, or check that
they are running satisfactorily with
In MySQL 5.7,
START SLAVE causes
an implicit commit of an ongoing transaction. See
Section 13.3.3, "Statements That Cause an Implicit Commit".
Beginning with MySQL 5.7.1,
gtid_next must be set to
AUTOMATIC before issuing this statement (Bug
MySQL 5.7 supports pluggable user-password
authentication with
START SLAVE with the
DEFAULT_AUTH and
PLUGIN_DIR options, as described in the
following list:
USER: User name. Cannot be set to an
empty or null string, or left unset if
PASSWORD is used.
PASSWORD: Password.
DEFAULT_AUTH: Name of plugin; default is
MySQL native authentication.
PLUGIN_DIR: Location of plugin.
You cannot use the
SQL_THREAD option when
specifying any of
DEFAULT_AUTH, or
PLUGIN_DIR, unless the
IO_THREAD option is also provided.
See Section 6.3.8, "Pluggable Authentication", for more information.
If an insecure connection is used with any these options, the server issues the warning Sending passwords in plain text without SSL/TLS is extremely insecure.
START SLAVE ... UNTIL supports two additional
options for use with global transaction identifiers (GTIDs) (see
Section 17.1.3, "Replication with Global Transaction Identifiers"). Each of these takes a set
of one or more global transaction identifiers
gtid_set as an argument (see
GTID Sets, for more
When no
thread_type is specified,
START SLAVE UNTIL SQL_BEFORE_GTIDS causes the
slave SQL thread to process transactions until it has reached
the first transaction whose GTID is listed
in the
UNTIL SQL_AFTER_GTIDS causes the slave threads to
process all transactions until the
last transaction in the
gtid_set has been processed by both
threads. In other words,
SQL_BEFORE_GTIDS causes the slave SQL thread to
process all transactions occurring before the first GTID in the
gtid_set is reached, and
START SLAVE UNTIL SQL_AFTER_GTIDS causes the
slave threads to handle all transactions, including those whose
GTIDs are found in
gtid_set, until
each has encountered a transaction whose GTID is not part of the
SQL_BEFORE_GTIDS and
SQL_AFTER_GTIDS each support the
SQL_THREAD and
options, although using
IO_THREAD with them
currently has no effect.
For example,
3E11FA47-71CA-11E1-9E33-C80AA9429562:11-56 causes the
slave SQL thread to process all transactions originating from
the master whose
server_uuid is
3E11FA47-71CA-11E1-9E33-C80AA9429562 until it
encounters the transaction having sequence number 11; it then
stops without processing this transaction. In other words, all
transactions up to and including the transaction with sequence
number 10 are processed. Executing
3E11FA47-71CA-11E1-9E33-C80AA9429562:11-56, on the
other hand, would cause the slave SQL thread to obtain all
transactions just mentioned from the master, including all of
the transactions having the sequence numbers 11 through 56, and
then to stop without processing any additional transactions;
that is, the transaction having sequence number 56 would be the
last transaction fetched by the slave SQL thread.
Prior to MySQL 5.7.3,
SQL_AFTER_GTIDS did not
stop the slave once the indicated transaction waa completed, but
waited until another GTID event was received (Bug #14767986).
START SLAVE UNTIL SQL_AFTER_MTS_GAPS causes a
multi-threaded slave's SQL threads to run until no more
gaps are found in the relay log, and then to stop. This
statement can take an
SQL_THREAD option, but
the effects of the statement remain unchanged. It has no effect
on the slave I/O thread (and cannot be used with the
IO_THREAD option).
SQL_AFTER_MTS_GAPS should be used before switching the
slave from multi-threaded mode to single-threaded mode (that is,
when resetting
slave_parallel_workers back to
0 from a positive, nonzero value) after slave has failed with
errors in multi-threaded mode. As of MySQL 5.7.5, if
slave_preserve_commit_order is
enabled then
SQL_AFTER_MTS_GAPS has no effect.
To change a failed multi-threaded slave to single-threaded mode, you can issue the following series of statements, in the order shown:
START SLAVE UNTIL SQL_AFTER_MTS_GAPS; SET @@GLOBAL.slave_parallel_workers = 0; START SLAVE SQL_THREAD;
If you were running the failed multi-threaded slave with
relay_log_recovery enabled,
then you must issue
SQL_AFTER_MTS_GAPS prior to executing
CHANGE MASTER TO. Otherwise the
latter statement fails.
It is possible to view the entire text of a running
START SLAVE ... statement, including any
USER or
PASSWORD values
used, in the output of
PROCESSLIST. This is also true for the text of a
statement, including any values it employs for
MASTER_USER or
START SLAVE sends an
acknowledgment to the user after both the I/O thread and the SQL
thread have started. However, the I/O thread may not yet have
connected. For this reason, a successful
START SLAVE causes
SHOW SLAVE STATUS to show
Slave_SQL_Running=Yes, but this does not
guarantee that
Slave_IO_Running=Yes (because
Slave_IO_Running=Yes only if the I/O thread
is running and connected). For more
information, see Section 188.8.131.52, "SHOW SLAVE STATUS Syntax", and
Section 126.96.36.199, "Checking Replication Status".
You can add
IO_THREAD and
SQL_THREAD options to the statement to name
which of the threads to start. The
option is disallowed when specifying any of
DEFAULT_AUTH, or
PLUGIN_DIR, unless the
IO_THREAD option is also provided.
UNTIL clause
until_option, in the preceding
grammar) may be added to specify that the slave should start and
run until the SQL thread reaches a given point in the master
binary log, specified by the
and MASTER_LOG_FILE options, or a given point in the slave relay
log, indicated with the
RELAY_LOG_POS and
RELAY_LOG_FILE options. When the SQL thread
reaches the point specified, it stops. If the
SQL_THREAD option is specified in the
statement, it starts only the SQL thread. Otherwise, it starts
both slave threads. If the SQL thread is running, the
UNTIL clause is ignored and a warning is
issued. You cannot use an
UNTIL clause with
IO_THREAD option.
It is also possible with
START SLAVE UNTIL to
specify a stop point relative to a given GTID or set of GTIDs
using one of the options
SQL_BEFORE_GTIDS or
SQL_AFTER_GTIDS, as explained previously in
this section. When using one of these options, you can specify
both of these, or neither of them. If you specify only
SQL_THREAD, then only the slave SQL thread is
affected by the statement; if only
is used, then only the slave I/O is affected. If both
SQL_THREAD and
are used, or if neither of them is used, then both the SQL and
I/O threads are affected by the statement.
UNTIL clause is not supported for
multi-threaded slaves except when also using
For an
UNTIL clause, you must specify any one
of the following:
Both a log file name and a position in that file
Either of
SQL_BEFORE_GTIDS or
Do not mix master and relay log options. Do not mix log file options with GTID options.
UNTIL condition is reset by a subsequent
STOP SLAVE statement, a
START SLAVE statement that
includes no
UNTIL clause, or a server
When specifying a log file and position, you can use the
IO_THREAD option with
... UNTIL even though only the SQL thread is affected
by this statement. The
IO_THREAD option is
ignored in such cases. The preceding restriction does not apply
when using one of the GTID options
SQL_BEFORE_GTIDS and
SQL_AFTER_GTIDS); the GTID options support
SQL_THREAD and
IO_THREAD, as explained previously in this
UNTIL clause can be useful for debugging
replication, or to cause replication to proceed until just
before the point where you want to avoid having the slave
replicate an event. For example, if an unwise
DROP TABLE statement was executed
on the master, you can use
UNTIL to tell the
slave to execute up to that point but no farther. To find what
the event is, use mysqlbinlog with the master
binary log or slave relay log, or by using a
SHOW BINLOG EVENTS statement.
If you are using
UNTIL to have the slave
process replicated queries in sections, it is recommended that
you start the slave with the
--skip-slave-start option to
prevent the SQL thread from running when the slave server
starts. It is probably best to use this option in an option file
rather than on the command line, so that an unexpected server
restart does not cause it to be forgotten.
SHOW SLAVE STATUS statement
includes output fields that display the current values of the
UNTIL condition.
Prior to MySQL 5.7.5, the failure of this statement caused the slave heartbeat period to be reset. This issue is fixed in MySQL 5.7.5 and later. (Bug #18791604)
In very old versions of MySQL (before 4.0.5), this statement was
SLAVE START. In MySQL
5.7, that syntax produces an error.
|Posted by Jim Grill on February 5 2008 2:03pm
|[Delete] [Edit]
Useful feature...
Sometimes it's desirable to keep a slave behind the master in the event a bad drop statement causes chaos.
For example to keep a slave behind the master at all times write a script to:
1) get the current master log file and position and save it in a file
2) use the master log file and position from the *previous* run to START SLAVE UNTIL MASTER_LOG_FILE='<log file>', MASTER_LOG_POS=<position>
3) run the script once per hour to keep the slave the behind at least an hour at all times... or every ten minutes to keep it ten minutes behind.
Be sure to add skip-slave-start to your my.cnf
|Posted by Kayra Otaner on October 16 2009 10:21pm
|[Delete] [Edit]
A gotcha if you're using transactions.
You can't use just any position if you're using transactions on your master. Only position right after 'commit' can be used to start slave 'until'. If the position specified is not the 'commit' position for the transaction enclosed in binlog, MySQL replication will stop at the 'commit' position, not the position you explicitly specified.


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2 face charges in Amite Council fight
Updated On: May 08 2013 06:41:31 PM CDT
A fight erupted Tuesday night moments after the Amite City Council wrapped up its business.
The fight landed two men -- one of whom is an Amite City Councilman -- in trouble with the law.
The fight erupted over cars.
"I didn't know what he had in his pocket," Amite City Councilman Jonathan Foster said. "I was trying to protect myself."
"He was steady, trying to come at me," said Gerard Wilson, who was arrested after the fight. "He tried to come at me. I (was) kicking him between the legs."
People inside the Amite Town Hall were stunned as the fight erupted between Foster and Wilson, who was in the audience as his business was discussed.
Wilson rents a lot at West Magnolia and Second streets. He helps people try to sell their used cars.
Foster called it a commercial operation in a residential area and moved to end the operation. His effort failed, and as the meeting ended, he had words for Foster.
"I had told him that I was going to put him in jail. That's all I told him," Wilson said.
"(He said,) 'I'm going to kill you because you're stopping my family from eating,'" Foster said.
Within moments, the fight began. Amite police and others tried to separate the men.
"I didn't know him at all, so therefore, I was just in the protect-myself mode," Foster said.
"He was coming fast, and when he came fast, he went to swinging on me, and they had a man standing, like trying to stop them, but he pushed him out of the way and swung at me and hit me," Wilson said.
Authorities were able to bring the situation under control, and at that point, Amite Mayor Buddy Bel wanted both arrested.
"I signed charges on both individuals to be equal to not try and decide who. That's for the police to decide," Bel said.
Foster and Wilson could appear in court as early as June.
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Washington Parish deputies stop notorious Christmas villain
Analysts say low gas prices may be good for drivers but bad for Louisiana
Man pulled from under St. Charles streetcar after crash
Low gas prices, long holiday weekends driving up holiday travel
Woman dead after attempting to cross I-10, struck by car in New Orleans East

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Effect of General Partners or LLC Members Bankruptcy FilingTreatment of a general partners or LLC members relationship to the partnership or LLC has been the source of much confusion when that person is a debtor under the Bankruptcy Code. Committees of both the National Bankruptcy Conference and the American Bar Association have spent extensive time and resources unraveling these problems and formulating proposals to clarify the treatment of these relationships and other related issues. [ FN: The statutory amendments addressing issues related to debtor partners proposed by the Ad Hoc Committee of the American Bar Association were withdrawn. Thus, the Ad Hoc Committee s report did not officially address any of the issues discussed in these proposals. The Partnership Committee of the National Bankruptcy Conference issued a draft report, dated September 11, 1996, that did address a number of the issues raised in these proposals.] Without these two beacons, the Commission staffs work in this area may well have ended up on the rocky lee shore and for this we are very grateful.
The Small Business, Partnership and Single Asset Real Estate Working Group reached consensus on five principal areas in need of reform regarding a general partners or LLC members bankruptcy filing. The five areas for reform are: (i) similar treatment of partners and LLC members and managers under the Bankruptcy Code; (ii) excluding partnership and LLC agreements from the section 365 executory contract provisions; (iii) unenforceability of ipso facto provisions in bankruptcy; (iv) property of the estate, transferability and valuation; and (v) management rights. Each of the proposals is directed at clarifying current confusion over treatment of the partnership or LLC relationship when a general partner or LLC member becomes a debtor under the Bankruptcy Code.
Following the initial draft of the working groups partner-as-debtor proposal that was circulated in April, a number of constructive comments were provided to the Commission from: Sally S. Neely for herself and on behalf of the National Bankruptcy Conference (letter dated May 5, 1997); Richard Levin of Skadden, Arps, Slate, Meagher & Flom (letter dated April 29, 1997); and ProfessorLarry E. Ribstein of George Mason University School of Law (letter dated May 27, 1997). The Commission, at its April meeting in Seattle, adopted a number of proposals to reform section 365 that clarify a number of the partnership and LLC problems. The attached proposals (i) address some of the concerns raised by these interested and helpful parties, and (ii) discuss the effect on partnerships and LLCs of the Commissions proposals to amend the treatment of other contractual obligations under section 365.
Partnership Proposal #6
Property of the Estate, Transferability, and Valuation of a Partnership or LLC Interest
Property of the Estate. Section 541(a)(6) provides that property of the estate includes "[p]roceeds, product, offspring, rents or profits of or from property of the estate, except such as are earnings from services performed by an individual debtor after the commencement of the case." In the case of an individual partner or LLC member, the effect of this provision is that property of the estate does not include postpetition earnings for services rendered. The division of partnership income under section 541(a)(6) is between those earnings for services rendered and those earnings attributable to a return on the partnership interest. [ FN: See, e.g., Fitzsimmons v. Walsh (In re Fitzsimmons), 725 F.2d 1208, 1211 (9th Cir. 1984) (refuting contention by sole proprietor debtor in possession that all postpetition earnings were within the section 541(a)(6) exception; "the earnings exception applies only to services performed personally by an individual debtor ").] Property of the debtor becomes property of the estate regardless of an ipso facto provision that would limit the debtors estates interest in the property. [ FN: 11 U.S.C. §541(c)(1).]
Transferability of Partnership or LLC Interest. A debtor general partners partnership interest can be transferred by the trustee, subject to the underlying partnership agreement. [ FN: See, e.g., Rice v. Shoney s Inc. (In re Dean), 174 B.R. 787 (Bankr. E.D. Ark. 1994) (trustee bound by sale restrictions and option to purchase debtor s joint venture interest);In re Todd , 118 B.R. 432 (Bankr. D.S.C. 1989) (chapter 7 trustee bound by right of first refusal provisions in partnership agreement).] Section 363(l) provides the terms under which a trustee may use, sell or lease property of the estate. [ FN: 11 U.S.C. §363(l) (1994)(providing that the trustee, subject to section 365, may use, sell or lease property of the estate notwithstanding an ipso facto provision in the underlying agreement or applicable law).] Ipso facto provisions are not enforceable under section 363(l). However, courts have generally enforced non-ipso facto provisions in partnership agreements that restrict the alienability of the interest or otherwise give the remaining partners a right of first refusal. [ FN: This view has been countenanced by both commentators and the courts. See Gerald K. Smith, Issues in Partnership and Partner Bankruptcy Cases and Reorganization of Partnership Debtors, in course materials for ALI-ABA, Partnerships, LLCs, and LLPs: Uniform Acts, Taxation, Drafting, Securities, and Bankruptcy , at 685 ( "contractual provisions regulating who may buy partnership interests and the price, such as, Buy/Sell Agreements and Rights of First Refusal, have generally been considered enforceable. An agreement which is general, that is, a partner withdrawing or dissociating for any reason can be bought out based on a formula should be enforceable. However, if the buyout is triggered by bankruptcy it should not be enforceable unless that is compelled by §365(e)(2). " citing Calvert v. Bongards Creameries (In re Schauer), 15 C.B.C.2d 191 (Bankr. D. Minn. 1986), aff d 835 F.2d 1222 (8th Cir. 1987);In re Farmers Markets Inc. , 792 F.2d 1400 (9th Cir. 1986);In re Todd , 188 B.R. 432 (Bankr. D.S.C. 1989);In re Baquet , 61 B.R. 495 (Bankr. D. Mont. 1986)).]
Valuation. Both the Uniform Partnership Act and the Revised Uniform Partnership Act provide valuation formulas for partnership interests. For example, the UPA provides that partners continuing a partnership after a wrongful dissociation must pay the dissociating partner the liquidation value of the interest, less any damages resulting from the dissolution. [ FN: UPA §38(2)(b) & (2)(c)(II).] Under the RUPA, if a partner files for bankruptcy and the partnership continues, the remaining partners must buyout the bankrupt partners interest. The RUPA buyout price is "the amount that would have been distributable to the dissociating partner . . . if . . . the assets of the partnership were sold at a price equal to the greater of the liquidation value or the value based on a sale of the entire business as a going concern without the dissociated partner . . . . Interest must be paid from the date of dissociation to the date of payment." [ FN: RUPA §701(b).]
"Property of the estate" for a partner or LLC member should include all rights attendant with the partnership or LLC interest, including management rights, voting rights, and economic rights (including goodwill, the right to share in profits and losses, and other any other right to payment). Except as provided below, the Proposal does not alter the effect of section 541(a)(6), to the extent it is applicable. In the case of an individual partner or LLC member who (i) continues to function as a partner or member after the order for relief, and (ii) whose estate receives or is more likely than not going to receive the "buyout price" as defined below, all partnership or LLC interest amounts arising, accruing, or are exercisable after the order for relief are deemed to be on account of personal services rendered by the partner or LLC member and do not become property of the estate. There should be a presumption, in a case of an individual debtor, that the estate is more likely than not going to receive the "buyout price," upon which presumption the parties should be entitled to rely and function until the court orders to the contrary, after notice and hearing, on motion of the trustee or any party in interest.
The court should have the power to authorize a sale under section 363 of the partnership or LLC interest and order the admission of the buyer to the partnership or LLC with all rights and duties the debtor had, except that if the governing documents preclude transfer, the anti-transfer clauses will be given effect, but only if the partnership or LLC pays the "buyout price" to the estate. The court should retain the power to fashion reasonable payment terms which balance the needs of the estate for receipt of cash as rapidly as possible with the needs of the entity for liquidity and working capital to conduct its operations in a prudent manner.
The "buyout price" means the highest price (including a calculation or appraisal method), if any, provided in the governing documents in the case of a buyout of an interest not on account of the bankruptcy, insolvency, financial condition, commencement of a voluntary or involuntary case under title 11, or appointment of a trustee or custodian, of a partner or LLC member or manager. If no such price is provided, the court should determine a fair buyout value.
Reasons for the Change
The tension that this tripartite Proposal attempts to resolve is between preserving the going concern value of the debtors general partner interest (i.e. the economic value) for the estate and enforcing the benefit of the nondebtor partners bargain. Section 541(a)(6) protects creditors by ensuring that the estate includes income attributable to estate property. [ FN: See 4 Collier on Bankruptcy ¶ 541.19, 541-94 (Lawrence P. King et al. eds. 15th ed. 1996).] Courts have grappled with the effect of this provision on an individual debtors postpetition earnings. [ FN: CompareIn re Powell , 187 B.R. 642 (Bankr. D. Minn. 1995) (holding that post-petition earnings under section 541(a)(6) were not property of individuals chapter 11 estate; wages were derived exclusively in debtors capacity as employees);In re Molina Y Vedia , 150 B.R. 393 (S.D. Tex. 1992) (100% of doctor/DIP s postpetition earnings within section 546(a)(1) exception); with In re Angobaldo , 160 B.R. 140 (N.D. Cal. 1993) (splitting post-petition earnings between those attributable to debtor s post-petition services and those attributable to profits from estate assets).] The Proposal preserves the effect of section 541(a)(6) except under a limited circumstance: (1) where the partner or LLC member continues working for the partnership or LLC; and (2) a non-ipso facto provision in the agreement or applicable nonbankruptcy law effects a buyout of the partners or LLC members interest at the buyout price.
Interpretation and enforceability of "buyout" provisions in a general partners bankruptcy has been the subject of a few cases. [ FN: See Connolly v. Nuthatch Hill Assoc. (In re Manning), 831 F.2d 205 (10th Cir. 1987); Cutler v. Cutler (In re Cutler), 165 B.R. 275 (Bankr. D. Ariz. 1994).] The difficult issue in these cases is whether to enforce the lower "bankruptcy" buyout price provided in the underlying agreement. [ FN: The facts in Cutler provide a good example of the different buyout alternatives in partnership agreements. In the event of bankruptcy under the Cutler agreement, the other partners could buy out the interest at book value. Cutler , 165 B.R. at 276. In the event of a voluntary withdrawal from the partnership, the agreement provided for a buy out price at 87.5% of fair market value. Id. In the event of death, disability, or incompetence of a partner, the same agreement provided for a fair market value buyout price. Id. Under the Proposal, the fair market value buy out price would apply in bankruptcy notwithstanding the alternative provision requiring book value. ] The Proposal eliminates argument over which "buyout price" is proper; under the Proposal the highest price provided is the buyout price. The buyout price provisions in the Proposal attempt to reconcile the need to maximize estate assets for creditors with the interest in enforcing the benefit of the nondebtor partners bargain. The buyout price is intended to provide a fair and predictable price to the creditors who will be cutoff under certain circumstances, as of the order for relief, from receiving income generated by an estate asset. Requiring a buyout at the highest price calculated under the agreement and if none, then at a fair price should provide as close to a predictable price as possible. Thus, creditors, debtors, and nondebtor partners and LLC members should be able to predict with a modicum of certainty what the buyout price would be in bankruptcy. The Proposal also mitigates the possible hardship suffered by an entity that must buyout a debtor members interest by authorizing thecourt to permit flexible payment, if necessary.
The economic interest transferability provisions of the Proposal enforce restrictive alienation provisions in partnership agreements. Enforcing a restrictive sale provision or a right of first refusal provision in a partnership agreement preserves the benefit of the nondebtor partners bargain during a partners or LLC members bankruptcy case. This portion of the Proposal is consistent with the withdrawn recommendation of the ABA Ad Hoc Committee that the underlying agreement and applicable state law should govern the treatment of partnership agreements in bankruptcy. [ FN: Morris W. Macey & Frank R. Kennedy, Partnership Bankruptcy and Reorganization: Proposals for Reform, 50 Bus. Law. 905 (1995) (proposed (but later withdrawn) section 569 provided that applicable nonbankruptcy law would control the treatment of partnership agreements in bankruptcy except that a buyout price would not be determined by the agreement or applicable nonbankruptcy law if such price was conditioned on the financial straits of the debtor partner.)] It is also consistent with the recommendation of Professor Ribstein that the treatment of partnerships be left to state law. [ FN: Letter from Professor Larry E. Ribstein, GMU Foundation Professor of Law, George Mason University to Stephen H. Case, Advisor, National Bankruptcy Review Commission (May 27, 1997).] Enforcing private agreement and underlying state law in the case of transferability of the partnership and LLC interest satisfies a number of the concerns raised by Professor Ribstein. [ FN: Id. at 3 ( "partners or LLC members should be able to expel bankrupt partners or members and to fix the buyout price regardless of the management responsibilities of the partner or member and regardless of whether the firm is an LLC or partnership or whether the bankrupt is personally liable for the firm s debts. ")] In preserving state law results, however, the proposal does not abandon the bankruptcy interest of maximizing estate value. If the agreement or applicable nonbankruptcy law prohibits alienation of the interest, the partnership or LLC must buy the interest at the "buyout price."
Competing Considerations
It has been argued that enforcing a contractual buyout price may lead to
collusive valuation by the nondebtor and debtor partners. [ FN: Letter from Richard Levin to Stephen H. Case,
Advisor, National Bankruptcy Review Commission at 4 (April 29, 1997).]
The Proposal addresses this concern by providing that the highest price for an interest in the
underlying agreement will be the "buyout price." This would include the price (or the
calculation of a price) that a partner would receive upon voluntary withdrawal or the
partners estate would receive upon death. While collusive price terms might be tempting in
bankruptcy, undervaluing would not be tempting in the above two scenarios.


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- VivianIsrael Follow
Pneumonia A Common Disease
From an opinion research, three out of every ten Nigerians acknowledge to have suffered Pnemonia.
In an interview Okwudiri Moses narrated how pneumonia affected him.
"Pneumonia affects the lungs. When I had it I was having Headache, Muscle pain and tiredness all the time. When I went to hospital they gave me injection and so many drugs to cure it."
However, some health workers who spoke on the disease said, "most times it results in inflammation of the lungs. The person would not breathe normally. It can make a child not to grow as he is supposed to grow. It also leads to child mortality in infancy and adult get it too. But it can be prevented."
A Medical expert, Dr. Peter Ezeonyeaso threw more light on the symptoms and prevention of the disease.
In his words, "Pneumonia is an inflammatory condition of the lungs. There are several causes ranging from Bacteria, Viruses, Fungai, and Parasite. Sometimes it is caused as a result of hormonal imbalance. The symptoms of pneumonia include Headaches, Fever, Constipation, Chest pain, weakness of the body, nausea and vomiting, Diarrhea, and Concussion etc. Pneumonia is treated based on the cause."
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I Cannot Afford A Divorce!
|Wednesday, 23 May 2012 00:00
I feel like I am too poor to afford a divorce. Not just the attorney fees and court costs, but my inability to afford to live after a divorce has kept me from filing.
I don't make enough money to support two households and give her half of my paycheck for alimony and child support.
So what do people do when they are too poor to afford the aftereffects of a divorce?
I am unable to give you legal advice on divorce. I can give general divorce help for men, though, my knowledge is based on Nebraska and Iowa divorce laws where I am licensed to practice.
Many people operate under the misconception that they must pay for two households or that half of their paycheck will go to their soon-to-be-ex.
Divorce Myths:The Truth To Common Divorce Rumors
Each state has different statutes governing alimony and child support and the amount that can logically be garnished. This is based on the circumstances of the parties, length of the marriage, time spent away from the work force to take care of a household, etc. Each case is different, and every state has different guidelines regarding the same.
It is my understanding you are having issues affording the filing fees for any court actions. Each state should have legal aid or some other type of legal assistance group that can either direct you to free or reduced legal assistance.
Often times these services can be located in the courthouse. You may also find a local "self-help" desk for learning to file on your own. Many times there are people can direct you on how to file on your own, or how to have filing fees waived in a divorce, if this is an option where you live.
Remember, I am unable to provide you with anything more than divorce tips for men, so please consult with a divorce lawyer in your jurisdiction.
To arrange an initial consultation to discuss divorce rights for men with a Cordell & Cordell attorney, including Omaha, Nebraska Divorce Lawyer Jamie Kinkaid, contact Cordell & Cordell.
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I agree!
written by lisa, December 12, 2012
My soon to be ex-husband is a good day but I don't see how he is going to be able to support himself and pay the child support that the court is going to require him to pay. I am confident that he will provide for his children during his visitations and if I should let him know that there is something they need, but having the court telling us what we have to do is very fustrating.
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the closing bell on September 19. Earnings according to the Zacks
Consensus Estimate for the quarter are projected at 9 cents per
share, representing an estimated year-over-year increase of 1,000%.
Revenues as per the Zacks Consensus Estimate are expected to be
$170 million.
First Quarter Synopsis
The company reported earnings of 6 cents per share in first-quarter
fiscal 2013, in stark contrast to the prior-year loss of 8 cents
per share. The results beat the Zacks Consensus Estimate of 3 cents
per share.
Total revenue increased 1% year over year to $154.1 million in the
reported quarter, missing the Zacks Consensus Estimate of $164
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activity with no movement in either direction over the last 7 and
30 days. A similar trend is seen for fiscal 2013.
The Zacks Consensus Estimates remained unchanged for both the
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delivered an average positive earnings surprise of 76.41% over the
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Apogee is currently experiencing robust growth in the picture
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pricing and higher margins will benefit earnings moving ahead.
However, weak global economic growth and uncertainty in the global
economic scenario can limit Apogee's near-term revenue visibility.
Further, any deterioration in the commercial construction market in
North America may lead to either delay or cancellation of projects,
causing headwinds for the company.
Apogee retains a short-term Zacks #3 Rank (Hold). We have a
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A Sporting Theory of Representation
© Professor Neil Hamilton
(published Feb. 21, 2011 in Minnesota Lawyer)
The Star Tribune ran a series of articles titled "Derailed" starting in December, 2010, about the judicial penalties imposed on Burlington Northern Sante Fe Corporation (BNSF). The newspaper quoted the BNSF general counsel saying that his client is "committed to the highest ethical principles at every turn, never compromising on safety, never compromising on ethics, never compromising our integrity." With respect to the judicial penalties for litigation misconduct, the general counsel explained "Some of the greatest athletes in the world [are] competing at a high level and sometimes they get yellow-carded, 'cause they're competing so hard. Were they trying to be malicious? Were they trying to be hurt somebody? I don't think so. When you get in this adversarial mode, I think both sides on occasion will get yellow-carded."
I have heard a number of lawyers over the years similarly compare civil litigation to contact sports, especially American football. We could call this the "sporting theory of representation." The analogy bears some careful thought and analysis when it is used to justify either conduct that has been disciplined as with the BNSF judicial penalties or conduct that is above the floor of the law of lawyering but does not pass a "smell" test and is far below our profession's ideals and aspirations. In addition, some "sporting theory" lawyers argue that "zealous advocacy" essentially requires each lawyer to do everything that is permitted (or in some cases even arguably permitted) by the law of lawyering so that the client will win. Some lawyers argue also that this conduct is necessary for a lawyer's professional effectiveness.
Are Judicial Penalties for Misconduct Analogous to Getting "Yellow-Carded"
We look first at whether a judicial penalty for misconduct is analogous to a "yellow card" just within its own terms as an analogy. A soccer referee holds up a yellow card as a caution given to a player for unsporting overly-aggressive fouls; a second yellow card given to a player results simultaneously in a red card where the player must leave the game and the player's team must play short-handed without a substitution. In the English Premier League per soccer match, roughly 20% of the teams receive no yellow card, 25% of the teams receive one yellow card, 35% of the teams receive two yellow cards, and 20% of the teams receive three or more yellow cards.
A judicial penalty for misconduct is not a warning like a yellow card; it is a penalty imposed on serious intentional or reckless and willful misconduct. While I don't have empirical data, my sense is that judicial penalties for misconduct are very uncommon.
Is the Civil Litigation Justice System Similar to Contact Sports?
Is our civil litigation justice system similar to the "greatest athletes in the world competing at a high level" in a contact sport? I have also heard other lawyers use American football analogies about inflicting pain on the opposing side in order to injure and intimidate them. Is this an appropriate analogy for our civil justice system, and the lawyer's role in the system?
I struggle with the analogy comparing our civil justice system to contact sports. While I understand both that trial by combat (wager of battle) was introduced into England by the Normans after 1066 and that centuries ago contact sports were often simulations of and training for combat, trial by combat was seldom used and generally detested. From the twelfth century until the formal abolition of trial by combat in 1818, trial by jury and lawyers were intended to steer people away from physical harm to others to resolve conflict toward conflict resolution that respects the dignity of each person.
Contact sports are now a recreational activity or an entertainment. Any player has the option of leaving the game at any point. Our civil justice system is not a recreational activity or entertainment. It brings the power of the state to bear to resolve conflicts in a way that the parties and the public consider sufficiently fair that they accept the results without resort to violence.
The lawyer's role in this civil justice system requires holding in proper tension the three roles outlined in the Preamble to the Rules of Professional Conduct. Each lawyer takes an oath to be "a representative of clients, an officer of the legal system and a public citizen having special responsibility for the quality of justice." Maintaining proper tension among these three roles is far more demanding and complex, and far more important to the peaceful ordering of society than the role of an athlete seeking to win in a contact sport.
Does "Zealous Advocacy" Require A Lawyer To Do Everything That Is Permitted In Order For The Client To Win?
Does the analogy that great athletes play at the edge of the rules to win and thus civil litigation lawyers should do the same make sense? Some lawyers argue that a failure to do everything permitted by the Rules of Professional Conduct is a failure of competent zealous advocacy. The black-letter language of the 1969 Model Code's Canon 7 that "A lawyer should represent a client zealously within the bounds of the law" does not appear in the 1983 Model Rules or the Minnesota Rules. The Model Rules did not explicitly include a duty of zeal in the text of any Rule because of a concern that "zealous," rather than the dictionary definition of warmly engaged or ardent on behalf of someone, will slide off into "zealotry" or excessive zeal. The excessively zealous lawyer ignores the roles of the lawyer as an officer of the legal system and a public citizen having a special responsibility for the quality of justice. The lawyer's financial gain from excessive zeal will foster a lawyer's rationalization that such conduct is required.
Paragraph 2 of the Preamble to the Rules, in the context of the lawyer's role as a representative of clients, states "As an advocate, a lawyer zealously asserts the client's position under the rules of the adversary system." Rule 1.3, comment 1, states "A lawyer must act with commitment and dedication to the interests of the client and with zeal in advocacy upon the client's behalf. A lawyer is not bound, however, to press for every advantage that might be realized for a client. For example, a lawyer may have authority to exercise professional discretion in determining the means by which a matter should be pursued." The Preamble's Paragraphs 7 ("a lawyer is also guided by personal conscience and the approbation of professional peers"), 14 (noting that many rules using the term "may" are permissive and give the lawyer discretion to exercise professional judgment), and 16 ("The Rules do not … exhaust the moral and ethical considerations that should inform a lawyer …") also indicate that "zealous advocacy" does not require a lawyer to do everything permitted by the Rules in order for the client to win.
Is It Necessary To "Push The Envelope" At The Edge Of The Law Of Lawyering In Order To Be Effective And Successful?
Some lawyers argue that pushing the envelope at the edge of the law of lawyering (and failing both the "smell" test and the ideals of the profession) is necessary in order to be effective and successful in the practice of law. While the empirical evidence is still at an early stage on this question, the evidence available points the opposite direction. The evidence shows a strong correlation between high professionalism (internalizing the ideals of the profession into personal conscience) and both clients' and senior lawyers definition of effectiveness. My 2011 Georgetown J. of Legal Ethics article (with Verna Monson) lays out this evidence. See http://ssrn.com/abstract=1495824 In addition, last summer, we interviewed twelve Minnesota lawyers who have won a professionalism award. All twelve exemplary lawyers (each successful in his or her area of practice) agreed that the foundation of their practice is an internalized moral compass incorporating a deep sense of responsibility to others including clients, the profession, and society. Eleven also emphasized the importance of being trustworthy and honest in relations with others including clients, colleagues, the court and adversaries.


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Editor's note: Dean Obeidallah, a former attorney, is a political comedian and frequent commentator on various TV networks including CNN. He is the editor of the politics blog "The Dean's Report" and co-director of the upcoming documentary, "The Muslims Are Coming!" Follow him on Twitter: @deanofcomedy
(CNN) -- Christianity in America is being hijacked. The faith known for Jesus Christ's teaching of "love thy neighbor as yourself" is in danger of being redefined by the far right as: "Hate the gays, Mormons and Muslims."
Just this past weekend, Christian missionaries -- including members of the organization Bible Believers -- traveled to one of the biggest Arab-American festivals in the country to taunt Muslims. These so-called Christians held up a pig's head while spewing hateful words about Islam. In the past, they have also attacked Catholicism as a "false doctrine."
If they were the only Christians spewing hate, they could simply be ignored. But they are not. Alarmingly, some well-known Christian leaders and pastors have articulated thoughts that range from intolerant to truly hateful.
Poll: Anti-Mormon bias same as '67
One of the worst offenders is Bryan Fischer of the American Family Association, a Christian organization whose astounding level of anti-gay rhetoric resulted in it being designated as a hate group by the Southern Poverty Law Center.
Fischer recently said on his radio show, "It is altogether right to discriminate against homosexual behavior" because it should not be acceptable to "any rational society." He has called for gays to be disqualified from public office and went so far as to claim that Hitler used gay storm troopers because straight solders would never engage in the brutality of the Nazis.
Toward Muslims, Fischer has called for them to be banned from the U.S. military and proposed that they be required to convert to Christianity before they can become U.S. citizens.
Toward Mormons, Fischer said they are not Christians -- a sentiment echoed by other evangelical leaders such as the Rev. Rick Jeffers, who has called Mormonism "a cult" and "a false religion." Fischer went on to say that Mormons are not entitled to freedom of religion under the First Amendment because that is only for Christians.
Fischer's comments are even more disturbing when you consider that the American Family Association is not some insignificant Christian organization. It boasts more than 2 million supporters. Frequently, well-known Republicans appear on Fischer's show, including Newt Gingrich, Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell and former Minnesota Gov. Tim Pawlenty, whom Mitt Romney is considering as a running mate.
Fischer can be matched by Pat Robertson, founder of the Christian Broadcasting Network, who have said that homosexuality is "related to demonic possession" and that non-Christians are "a virus." When asked by a viewer of his TV show if it was OK for a friend to display a Buddhist statue, Robertson's response was: "No, it's not. ... Break it ... destroy it!"
Then there are Christian leaders such as Tony Perkins, head of the Family Research Council, who has labeled gay activists as "intolerant, hateful, vile, spiteful" pawns of the devil who have an agenda that will destroy our society.
Yet Perkins' spite seems civil when compared to those of a pastor in Kansas who said a few weeks ago that the U.S. government should put gays to death because "it tends to limit people coming out of the closet." Shockingly (not), another Christian pastor in North Carolina has voiced the same view.
The longer that mainstream Christian leaders don't even bother to counter the rhetoric from the far right, the more likely that radical Christians will come to define Christianity.
As an American Muslim, I can tell you from firsthand experience that silence is not the right response to extremist voices. Letting radicals air their views can have a serious effect on how people view your faith. And just so it's clear, I'm in no way saying that we don't have our share of extremists; some of ours are far worse, and our community must continue publicly to reject their false representation of Islam.
Many Christian leaders will undoubtedly ask themselves the same thing we, Muslims, did: Why should we have to denounce these people who are so radical that we don't even think of them as sharing our faith? Why can't our good work just speak for itself? Not all Christians are like this.
Here is the reason: A recent poll of American college-aged voters found that 65% of them view Christianity as "anti-gay." This is startling. If the loud voices of intolerance from far right Christian leaders go unchecked, will most young Americans begin to think that Christianity is "anti-Muslim," "anti-Mormon," "anti-Catholic" and so on?
The stakes are clear for mainstream Christian leaders -- as well as other faiths where radicalism is going overboard. Isn't it time to stand up to those who give your religion a bad name?
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Boucheron presents a new women's fragrance named after Place Vendôme, the address in Paris (Place Vendôme 26) where Frederic Boucheron opened his first jewelry store in 1893. The perfume symbolizes over 150 years of light and gems that have passed through this house. A woman who wears Boucheron is conceived as independent, free, self-reliant and confident.
"A story rather than a face. A story of light. While Paris continues to dream, the sun's rays slide over the rooftops. The dome of the Invalides becomes a gigantic gold flower. The sun continues to rise, its rays crossing the arcades. Shadows slip from the Vendôme Column, which points majestically at number 26. In a white light, she appears. She is the heroine. On her skin, ephemeral finery to enhance the glow found deep within each woman. Boucheron Place Vendôme."
The composition is florinental-woody, created by Olivier Cresp and Nathalie Lorson. It opens with fresh and sparkling pink pepper which illuminates delicate orange blossom and rose essence. Jasmine petals develop in their full floral potential in the heart of the perfume, together with peony enriched with golden traces of creamy honey. The base notes include elegant cedar and sensual benzoin.
The fragrance is available as 30, 50 and 100 ml Eau de Parfum.
Place Vendôme was launched in 2013.
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This one is apparently not very popular here in Denmark, and it is hard to find. I don't understand it - to me is like one of the new modern classics, in the same category as Chanel Mademoiselle og Armani Sí.
Luckily I got it on Strawberrynet.com with a 3.4 oz/100 ml., body lotion and showergel in a christmas giftbox, with 70 % off , and I LOVE it !
I must admit, that a big part of me wanting this, is the beautiful bottle, which is even more pretty and exclusive in real life. Especially the massive 100 ml. bottle is a stunner on a dresser, with its thick, heavy cut out glass, gold label and pretty cap. In my opinion is this one of the best bottle designs ever. A true classic.
Now to the juice itself: when first sprayed, it is very citrusy, but not in a zesty way - more like sweet lemon drops. Then it turns into a very white floral with a hint of orange blossom, and of course honey, which is the most prominent note to me.
It is very powerful and projects well, and last for ages, but it can also be a bit overwhelming, so spray carefully ! It can be headache inducing if sprayed to much at one time .
To me it smells rich, exclusive and most of all French. It smells like how I imagine a confident, educated, elegant, classy woman from Paris, wearing high heels, skirt suits and pearls.
A new favorite :)
At first it smells of rich luxury soap (hint of citrus), the kind you get at five star hotels. Then it softens into a beautiful bouquet of honey sweet peonies. This smells incredibly POSH. To me, this is the more mature and sophisticated dupe of Marc Jacobs Honey, with a more glamorous bottle to boot.
I actually got this unexpectedly, as a bonus sample with another perfume I ordered. I had to at least give it a try since the perfume I ordered was unfortunately not my taste at all.
I smelled the cap and wasn't sure, as it smelled like another too fruity floral, but what did I have to lose. I spritzed a little on my wrist and waited...to my surprise it started to develop in to the loveliest soft fragrance, sort of powdery (which I usually dislike in a perfume)but powder-floral if that makes any sense. Come to think of it, it "kind of" reminds me of Baby Magic Baby Lotion with a perfume kicker.
With that said, it is obviously much more complex with a slight grit to it, as it develops.
The fragrance is just a soft linger-er, very pleasant.
I can definitely see my husband wanting to nuzzle up to my neck with this beauty.
It smells very comforting. I will add it to my collection!
I am SO happy I purchased this. For me it's very heavy on the peony, which I love. However I must admit that I got a bit of a headache from the sweetness at first, but then the pepper and benzoin comes in to balance the honey. From there it opens up quite lovely! A beautiful bouquet of white peonies, jasmine and a splash of tangerine. I only sort of sense the praline, which is a good thing I think - it sits close with the cedar, creating a yummy backdrop. It's nice to have a perfume without musk for once!
Definitely worth buying if you love white florals! Yes, there are many perfumes out there with the same combinations. Not all of them are this well done though!
Elie Saab Le Parfum watered down. Nice, but I prefer Elie though.
Nice soft, little sweet, modern, neutural, in Si Armani or Chanel Mademuasell style. Light, floral, not very original, but pleasant.
When i tried this perfume in departemental store, i didnt think much of it , still don't but my boyfriend liked alot, he had to buy it. I have to say it lasts long , others like it on me, i don't even smell it on me but i trust others for me. Its very feminine and not too sweet, give it a try.
smells richly good :) super long lasting
Reminiscent of the classic Boucheron it is updated here with some modern notes. On top its straight up Boucheron for me that settles quite nicely, but unfortunately it just does not suit me. Not until the third hour where it was only noticeable very close, I loved, I mean loooved the dry down, long lasting.
Salma Hayek wears it. I do love the fragrance for it's light, unintruding honey scent. Along with it's classy and heavy, textured glass bottle, it does carry the image of sunlight through huge, tall windows when smelling it.
I have a sample of this (thank you Nordstrom's SA), and I'd tried it once, thought it was nice enough, nothing remarkable, stored in in my box of samples and pretty much forgot about it. Today I took it out and decided it was due for a retest and sprayed it on my arms. Once again, I thought "oh, that's nice, but nothing I'd need a bottle of" and went about my business. A little while later I was sitting at my dressing table and found myself wondering what that lovely scent was. It was one of those "oh, its me!" moments. This scent is beautiful, and now I'm thinking I might need a bottle of it after all.
The tangerine and orange blossom are punched up by the pepper, but it's a subtle boost. The rose and jasmine show up, and so does a slight hint of cedar. I don't smell any peony in this, and that's a good thing for me. Mixed in with this delight is a shy sweetness that must be the praline. As time goes on, there is also a honey note, perfectly done for my skin chemistry, as honey often doesn't play nice with me, but this one sure does. It's delectable. The cedar/wood note keeps everything from being too sweet. It's 8 hours later, and it's still lovely, subtle, but lovely, and gently powdery. Based on the fact that these were tiny sprays from a carded sample, I'd say the longevity is pretty good.
This does remind me a tiny bit of La Vie Est Belle and also of Flowerbomb, both of which I own and enjoy, but this seems more subtle and sophisticated somehow. I also like the way the cedar is done in this. I feel there is room for PV in my tiny collection, alongside LVEB and FB, because it is different enough to merit a place. Also, I wore this today in hot and humid weather, and I wouldn't try the other two in those conditions. There is something fresh and light about PV, which makes it not cloying in the heat.
Wearing this now! I was a little disappointed at first, immediately recognizing those clean white florals, rather than warm, milky flowers I usually go for. Must be the praline/benzoin that saved it from becoming what Lady Million and Elie Saab are to me (white, sterile flowers with zero depth.)
As it settles on my skin I sense the balancing out of spice, cool white flowers and warmth of the benzoin! Oh yeah, and HONEY! Lots and lots of honey.. Mmmmm!
It stays a bit sweet at first, then just melts into the most beautiful balance between light and shadow. It's not clearly bright and sweet, or deep and warm, but both aspects are certainly there. To me, this is exactly what I look for in a scent -- it's graceful, simple and does not harass the noses of people nearby. It creates an aura of subtle depth and sheer sparkle, if that's not too metaphoric to say ;)
I love it, my skin loves it! Sillage is beyond what I expected, my coworkers can smell me after I've left the room but it's not heavy at all. Longevity will differ throughout the seasons, I'm sure. In mid-summer I've got 4 hours then need a reapplication. Really think this deserves more love for simply being well-crafted and not another gimmicky attention-grabber.
Ok I am not reading other reviews not even looking at the notes here as I sniff this I wanted to give my take on what I am smelling. This is for the EDP:
Initial spritz appears very feminine gently sweet with a very mild spice in the background. It's an attractive scent, not repelling, not overly loud or floral. Slightly unique but not ground breaking by any means. Close to the skin, not a silage monster and certainly not a heavy hitter. Upon first spray it might trick you into thinking you have overdone it, however after a few minutes the initial strong kick fades down to a close to the body scent.
If your into lighter scents this one might be for you. The bottle is lovely and it has a very sturdy heavy lid which I like. I have the one oz bottle which is lovely to fit in a handbag. Actually I think I will stick with these smaller bottles from now on.
Boucheron Place Vendome ! Tres chic ! It's a perfect ladies' scent. Although I cannot guarantee this perfume would be loved by everybody, I closed my eyes and smiled the moment this fragrance landed on my wrist and I got my first whiff of the essence when it dried down.
This fragrance may start out strong - for a second. So I cannot recommend this for the younger population. I can't even recommend this for your super tweetums "I only wear Victoria's Secret PINK" girlfriend. It's pretty mature - in the more middle mature adult sort of way
The scent presents as a nice warm floral fragrance. it is very chic, modern, yet it has that "classique" Boucheron feel to it. You know it is a french perfume when it finishes up to it's basenote.
Sweet vannila, and slightly - slightly warm floral feel give away to it.
I was at the mall last weekend and saw a bottle of this, sprayed it on a card, and really enjoyed it.
(Now after ordering an EDP sample from ebay, I realized that the one I tried at the mall and liked must have been the EDT)
The sample of the EDP I ordered was rather heavy, sweet, and quite ordinary...yet another Flowerbomb...Loverdose, etc.
Will have to try the EDT--that had to have been the pretty one.
Do not how to describe this scent but I'll try to. To me it is kind of crisp, sharp or spicy. It didn't smell sweet at all.
Very nice one. Smell like luxury, but so not Jacques Cavallier style. They should hire him again. Not a deep smell for sure.
Not going to read other reviews, not yet... smells woody to me, soft, almost invisible, but it's strong, really strong. Benzoin, praline, honey...what else do we need to add for the warm touch one might feel right away? Feminine, maybe even too much, but undeniably beautiful in its own way. I'd love to try EdT, it must be equally nice if not nicer. EdP lasted 4-5 hours on my skin.
I immediately thought of Initial, only here you have more flowers ..
edit/ Initial is much softer and not so loud, my absolute winner.
Ok..love at first sniff!
I love everything about this perfume: the gorgeous bottle, the cap (a true Boucheron cap), the juice.
It starts off very loverdose-y in my opinion. Maybe it's the jasmine. Anyway it is super sweet at the beginning. But whereas Loverdose takes the sweet chocolatey direction, PV takes the honeyish sparkling floral direction. It gets even more gorgeous then.
Sillage is not huge, but is moderate. Longevity is great, I keep sniffing my wrist and can't have enough of it.
I love almost everything that Boucheron releases, and this is no exception.
For those who find this PV too ordinary or too weak, experiment the following : i layered it with Lalique le parfum. Waaw, what you get is an amazing scent. The pepper, jasmine are silmilar notes but the spicyness of Lalique lift the whole PV into a completely different galaxy, it tones down the sweetness and day time shy lady transforms into a dark seducing diva !
Изключително променлив, много женствен, топъл, гушлив парфюм. Толкова кремав и нежен! За щастие няма единични изблици на жасмин или портокалов цвят при мен, а е една цялостна композиция, която много, много ми допада! Не откривам и пипер, което също ме радва. Мирише на топлата кожа на обичана жена, която току що се е събудила в събота сутрин и се протяга в завивките.
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It is a very elegant perfume, not very exceptional or " niche" but well balanced sparkling woody floral. I prefer PV above Elie Saab, much softer and ethereal beauty. It is the perfect perfume for Spring and quite fresh : no fruit, no gourmand aspects nor popular patchouli. After a long winter of gourmand, spicy patchouli scents as Angel or Black Orchid it is nice to "detox" :-). No heavy cognac, whisky or martini's, just a fresh sparkling lemonade with a hint of honey is just what i need now !!
it reminds me elie saab le perfume.very lovely and soft with honey.but this one is more sweet-not sugary- and has got more elegance sillage.perfect for spring and warm summer nights.very ladylike,i love it:)
i bought 30 ml-40usd,good price.
The experience of this fragrance is somewhat odd for me, as usually I know very quickly whether or not a scent will work for me. Not so with Place Vendome, which has had be going back and forth for some weeks now. I test it every time I make it by a store that carries it, and every time, I sniff, and sniff, and sniff; yet I can't decide if I want it or if I should pass. The opening stages are somewhat fruity, leading to a heart that sweetens considerably on my skin, leading to a heady arrangement of syrupy, resiny florals not unlike those of Flowerbomb. The base brings in a sharp pungency that is somewhat similar in character to Saab's Le Parfum, and continues to change until the very end, where benzoin rules, now a trace of a skin scent.
Place Vendome starts with moderate silage and is easily detected for some hours after application. The end stages extend the wear, and though it is faint now, I can still detect the fragrance on my arm nearly 7 hours later. I still can't decide on it, but I can guarantee that I'll continue to sniff it. It's an odd thing, feeling so ambivalent about a scent, yet feeling so compelled to keep my nose practically glued to my skin for the duration of its wear.
Sweet, tangy, blossomy, pink-peppery, and at such a great price and in such a cute bottle! So girly without being bubblegum or Pink Sugar, this fragrance has some class. Yes, it is quite sweet, but not so much that it is a problem for me. The peony and jasmine really stand out. Benzoin and cedar drydown? Heck yes!! Thanks to katoy4 for sending me my sample, I'd been dying to try this.
On my skin, Place Vendome opens with a beautiful blend of orange blossom and jasmine with a hint of honey. After a while, the honey deepens and juicy orange bursts out from time to time. For a brief moment, a soft, sweet praline comes into play, and then all of a sudden, it just turns into a sharp, almost metallic mess that I have to scrub off. I love the first hour or two so much that the awful dry-down makes me want to cry. I keep trying, but the same thing happens every time :(
Very ladylike fragrance, just as elegant as its bottle.
However, for me it is just too blank. Not sweet, not warm, not powdery, in two words: nothing special. Some light honey and that is it.
There is a saying - being too elegant is boring. In this case, it seems to be true.
WOW! Wonderful, beautiful and superwoman'ish. Classy, sophisticated and very elegant - a rich ladys scent. Its modern but not modern sugarsweet, there is an airy sweetnes from the honey but the pink pepper softens it down to something gorgeous. 1 spray lasts for many hours so go easy with this gem girls. The pinkpepper turns magic on my skin and makes the flowernotes dance. In basenote there is a hint of Ceder, a note that often turn male'ish on my skin but not here, its just a whisper.. A new favourite!
Wow! Underbar, härlig och superkvinnlig. Klassisk, sofistikerad och väldigt elegant - en rik kvinnas doft. Den är modern men inte modernt sötsliskig. Det finns en luftig sötma från honungen men pepparnoten mjukar ner den till något fantastiskt. 1 sprejning varar i många timmar så spreja försiktigt tjejer. Peppar blir magisk på min hud och gör att blomnoterna kommer till sin rätt. I basnoten finns en aning om Cederträ, en doftnot som ofta förvandlar en parfym till manlig på min hud men inte här, den är bara som en viskning.. En favorit!
Got a sample of this from Nordstrom. I was looking for a new signature scent after wearing Estee Lauder Beautiful for so long. Beautiful changed on me. Well… Sprayed this and then brought home a sample. The scent was strong at first. OH MY after the dry down it smelled incredible. Not too strong. I don't get the sweet smell as described in the reviews. I sprayed this about 11am and it carried on until the next day. My husband loves it too. Going back to buy the full size bottle..
I´ve just got it from St. Claus ;) I think it is one of perfumes that change during a day, and this transformation is most recognizable for nose. Sometimes I read about thousand of ingredients but I can hardly recognize more then a few which I believe is quite common. In PV mystique is a bit more friendly, letting us to look behind the curtain. I love the smell. Reminds me - personal memories - of Baroque of Yardley and Cinema YSL, but I am not writing here about how it is built, rather what atmosphere it creates. Well... It is always about this, isn´t it? ;)
Just tried a sample for the second time and the opening reminds me of Cavalli I Love Her, which I also love but unfortunately lacks longevity. If PV holds nicely for at least 4 hours I would love to have a bottle of this!
I'm shocked that nobody noticed the similarity of Place Vendome to Paco Rabanne Lady Million. In fact, Place Vendome is a richer, more intense version of Lady Million: the honey on a distinctive floral base.
I have been wearing this new scent for a few hours and I have to say I am not impressed. It improves a bit after a couple of hours when the honey note takes over from the neroli, cedar and a bit of jasmine, which are too strong in the initial spray for me. I don't find this too sweet, just very generic and boring. I think it is someone at LVMH or another company's idea of a "classy" smelling generic slightly sweet floral to sell to the middle aged market.
I'll take Marc Jacobs' "Honey" any day over this one and ditto for Jo Malone's Nectarine Blossom and Honey, Both are much nicer scents in my opinion and cheaper. Also, this scent has very little sillage and fades quickly into a skin scent after only a couple of hours. A pretty bottle and a fancy French name do not make up for mediocrity. I also see no similarity at all between J'Adore and this scent. This is faint and generic and J'Adore is a powerhouse of a beautiful fragrance.
It is very hard to make decisions based on a review by others as perfumes smell so different on different people. On me, this is a similar perfume to J'adore but a little sweeter. I purchased this as a blind buy and am very pleased. on me it is very feminine with a subtle sweetness. In my opinion, this has been blended very well with no real outstanding note and if you buy the gift set, the body lotion is gorgeous. Very happy with my purchase.
I find it cloyingly sweet. And do not find it original either.
I have to say this perfume was not what I was expecting; the pink pepper note in the opening reminds me of Gucci Guilty, then the creamy benzoin/praline dry down remminds me of a cross between Signorina and La Vie Est Bell (and maybe a little Prada Candy) as MippyMuppet mentions. It is sweet, floral, and creamy with a powdery finish, it's very feminine but different from many other perfumes out there- a very well done creation in my opinon! However I would say if powdery is not your thing, this might not be for you.
Thank you so much mippymuppet for your review! I ordered it from Debenhams on their 'try a new fragrance guarantee' meaning they send you a free sample with the perfume so that you can smell it first and return it if you don't like it- well they didn't include my sample and I was really annoyed! After reading your really helpful review, i bit the bullet and opened it anyway and I'm glad I did.
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The frist hour it smelles great but then it turns into an overly sweet and powdry scent. What is it with perfumes nowadays? Does every brand really need to have their own gourmand scent? Some variety please!
Okay, I`m in love. Sweet (but not too much), rosy, benzoine, creamy, jasmine is also there. Someone ask how this differs Elie Saab. My nose this is totally different smell. I think this is much more lighter than Saab what is much deeper and sillage is heavy. Vendôme sillage is just moderate. Very different and unique. I love it! And the bottle is one of the most beautiful bottles whole fragrance wold. Very 20`s century, old fashion, just beautiful!
I have both Elie Saab and Place Vendome and will try to explain the difference as best I can. Let's start with Place Vendome...
Place Vendome out of the bottle is creamy and sweet. A combination of the honey, benzoin and praline. But it is not foody and I think it is a nice departure from the traditional vanilla scents out there. It's a beautiful soft and creamy blend. PV is also a better blend of florals. Where ES is all about the orange blossom & honey PV is really a beautiful floral blend. I also get the hint of tangerine & pepper at the top.
PV is currently my new favorite scent and I am spraying like crazy!! I highly suggest sampling if you get the chance. I feel the two scents are different enough that on my skin the two scents do not overlap each other making it easy to justify having a bottle of each.
ES out of the bottle to me is darker...heavier. The patch immediately comes forward and weighs the fragrance down a bit. ES to me is dark, heavy, honey dripping orange blossom. I love it.
PV always retains its floral light creaminess. I feel like it more closely resembles Lancome La Vie Est Belle and Salvatore Ferragamo Signorina because of its creaminess and floral notes. They are not the same...they just feel like they would be in the same family.
I was also excited to try Estée Lauder Modern Muse. This to me is way too similar to Elie Saab. If you have one you definitely do not need the other...and ES is blended better IMO.
Hope that helps!!!
Is anyone able to explain how this differs from Eli Saab? I own ES and not sure whether or not I should purchase this one too.
Enough already with the sweet synthetic bases with citrus on top! Geez, is the same perfumer working for all the mainstream companies now? With these beautiful notes I was expecting something magnificent, not The One, Chance, or Vanitas in a new bottle. The base is sweet and synthetic amber. I suppose you could say there is rose in it. If it's honey you seek, there are far better honey perfumes on the market. I am reminded of why I shop mostly for niche. This perfume is bland and forgettable.
The EDP Version
Very beautiful!! Honey, rose, a bit of jasmine, a dash of pepper in the beginning. A slight vanilla suggestion from the benzoin with a little bit of sweetness from the praline. This is really very soft and beautiful!!! Perfect for a lady of any age who carries herself with grace and ease.
Really I can't stop smelling my wrist. Place Vendome is a very beautiful soft sparkling floriental. This is not going to scream at you but will have you floating in a very beautiful aura. Initially I bought the smaller bottle but went back the next day and exchanged it for the large one. I am very anxious to see what Boucheron does next under their new licensure!!! This one was a big hit for me!!!
Wonderful longevity!!
edit: I wanted to comment on the bottle. Gorgeous cut glass with substantial weight. Would look beautiful on any dresser!!!
I just wanted to say that I too have Elie Saab and for me, they are not alike.
This was a scent suggested to me by my favorite SA. Nick if you ever read these reviews....I love you.
This fragrance is like a soft rose dipped in honey. It is a scent so feminine and elegant I can't believe it is a Boucherone scent. (Boucheron's tend to be heavy on me). At first sniff, it is ok....but after about 20-30 minutes this turns into a dream. Warm melting honey softens roses and just the most subtle int of Jasmine. I do not get any citrus, I see it listed, but I don't get it.
This is so easy to wear, it is glorious.
This morning I went back 3 times to spray on more before I eventually left for work.
The bottle is so beautiful and it's heavy - you might think the juice inside would be some weighty concoction, but it isn't. It is lovely and I don't come across many people who wear a lot of the Boucheron offerings - so you're pretty much going to be unique.
I was not expecting to like this so much. Got to try this courtesy of Dinosgirl3. To be honest, I was expecting another generic floral (not usually a fan of florals to begin with) but it surprised me. It's soft and sensual with just enough warmth to be wearable for me. There's something about the blend of woods, honey, and jasmine that makes it very inviting. It also strikes me as versatile, I think you could wear this in any weather/season.
This is class. But not pearls, fancy dresses, and careful conversation class. It's the simply but fashionably dressed woman in the coffee shop reading a book or gazing thoughtfully out the window. She doesn't scream for attention, but there's just something about her that you admire and it makes you want to get to know her to find out what it is so maybe you can have it too. Although maybe that je ne sais quoi is simply the fact that she's wearing Place Vendome ;)
During the opening of Place Vendôme EdP it was as if I had put my nose in a bag of candies and flower petals. A very intriguing experience of elegant sweetness, and at the same time fresh, rich and complex. As it dries down the honey note remains but the overall sweetness gradually diminishes in intensity making way for the benzoin and putting more emphasis on the exquisite flower notes. Needless to say Place Vendôme is a very classy composition. I would love to be the proud owner of this delightful feminine perfume in this stellar gorgeous bottle.
This reminds me purely of Estée Lauder Tuscany Per Donna.. I used to love it, but honestly I'm not that fond of it anymore.. But they do smell alike..
I have this on my arm today and I don't think the longevity is going to be great. I get the honey, the orange blossom and jasmin in the first 2 hours. The jasmin came to the fore about an hour after application but has faded now 3 hours after.. I am left with a skin scent of vanilla-ry, creamy honey with the mearest trace of caramel/praline. It is a beautiful, soft, subtle scent which is unlikely to offend anyone. I can see this as a signature fragrance for many women, and although I think it suits ladies of my age (40s), I think it will work for young ad old alike. Projection is low I think but I only sprayed my arm, not hair or clothes, so you might get better projection and longevity with different methods of application.
The bottle is lovely! It is also heavy and substantial and gives the perfume a very classy vibe. It does remind me of Elli Saab but I prefer ES, marginally. If someone gave Place de Vendome to me as a gift, I would be pleased, but I have no yearning to go out and buy it for myself. I would have been more interested if the jasmine had stuck around longer as it was really beautiful then. I would like to try the EDT next.
Very classy. A beautiful scent by Boucheron. Boucheron never fails! Suitable for fall and winter. Can be worn day and night.
Just arrived in Vancouver. It is distinct, feminine, and a cut above like most Boucheron Fragrances. It has a warmed to it, not as sharp as Jaipur Bracelet. Suited for the independent mature women
I was about to say it's similar to Elli Saab due to similarity in notes. I'll give it a sniff when it hit stores where I live & update my review.
Such a light, delicate scent to wear. Reminiscent of flowing, long, gauzy dresses and wide, straw-brimmed hats, tall grasses, and beautiful trees with wide arms full of green leaves towering above me, blue skies with patches of white breezy clouds and the air is warm. This is a light perfect perfume for the spring weather.
The woods of cedar immediately burst through with roses and muted jasmine, while creamy pralines delicately mix with notes of honey. Vendome Boucheron seems classic in its projection, never overpowering, always ladylike, always subtle, ever gentle.
I could see this a a wedding day perfume for a very young woman because of its lack of sexuality or flirtatiousness. Its simple. Its clean. Its elegant with a hint of pepper peeking through, ever so powdery at its dry down. The benzoin lends its hand to a creamy vanilla finish that sits and intermixes well with the woods as this perfume ends its run.
Just received this sample from Nordstrom--first spritz, OH MY!!! Fresh and creamy--just lovely. I wear Boucheron in evening, and can see this for daytime. So far, it seems very elegant, and yes, that word again, fresh!!!
Such a beautiful bottle but again this is not for me. It reminds me a bit of Elie Saab which I think is the honey note and that is what sadly ruins it for me :(
Got an opportunity to try Place Vendôme Eau de Toilette in (pink juice), it is not presented at fragrantica yet. Unfortunately, it smells like a muted, less citrusy and a bit peppery in the dry down version of Dolce & Gabbana Light Blue. Do we need another though more sophisticated clone of Light Blue? At the same time I hope that Place Vendôme Eau de Parfum (yellow juice) has nothing common with its edt sister.
This reminds me of a richer, improved YSL Manifesto with a more grapey jasmine and then a more woody drydown. Where is the MUSK in the notes because this one is powdery. I think it will smell wonderful on the right skin chemistries. Classy.
Great fragrance and not too expensive when it comes to Boucheron. I would love go see a fragrance that is like this, but stronger on the honey tone, minus a bitter sweet honey tone, like when you're drinking linden tea with honey.
I just got it yesterday at the launching night in Mexico City. I smelled both: the Eau de Parfum and the Eau de Toilette, they're quite different!
The parfum is absolutely musky, has lots of jasmine and honey, is a little powedry. I like very much strong and voluptuous fragrances, so I totally dig it, but it has a discretion, it is not as strong as others like Chanel 5 or Flower by Kenzo, for instance.
In the other hand, it seems to be for older women whenever you try the toilette. It is elegant and discreet,
The pink one is fresh, an explosion of flowers, very similar to 212 summer editions, Nina Ricci or any other light fragrances.
Nevertheless, they share a link in which you can notice, after a few smells, that they are very similar at the end. I think it's for a young mother and her mid 20's daughter, or for a woman who wants to be young and subtle during the daylight time, but sexual and experienced in the evening.
Is like a woman: two versions of yourself but in the bottom of your heart your soul is still the same.
Obviously a great creation, prestigious brand, 2 great nose behind it, result: a delightful fresh, light, enticing warm scent, creamy and soft white floral, more a soft oriental, I detect the honey, which mixes in nicely with the other notes, not being fan of honey. I was worried for a minute, no need to be, the honey is part of the recipe, not the main flavour!!! This is not the typical big Boucheron perfume, this is the Parisian refined sent, for the sophisticated every day woman. There is a delightful freshness in that perfume, only great noses can create such a mix of breezy notes on a warmer base.Feminine. Stylish. Great.
i got it yesterday :) well it's floral sure,but i can't smell rose out of it at all
Absolutely charming, Place Vendôme starts fresh rich white floral with a light rose touch developing into a nice natural honeyed Benzoin base.
From the house from which it comes, you expect something sophisticated, french and classy, of course it is, but it is taken in a more modern way, very trendy sweetness but with a special elegance, being always ladylike.
It is very wearable, perfectly balanced, noticeable.
Would love everything if it wasn't for the rose...
The bottle and the box! So delicious and desirable! The notes are interesting too... Let's hope for the best :)
Looks amazing!
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