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In the Orchard Mesa Cemetery on the southwest corner of the Masonic Section, between the tool shed and the old administration building, sits two headstones bound on the east by a cement path and on the west by a paved road. These two graves with their headstones sit there all by themselves, almost forgotten, containing the remains of some of the oldest pioneers and founders of Mesa County.One headstone is for five unknown Civil War veterans and Masonic Brethren who died in Mesa County between 1887 and 1892. We now know the names of three of the five, but that is another story.The other headstone is for Capt. Richard Daniel Mobley, Company D, 17th Kansas Infantry. He was one of the first along with his wife, Emma, who came with former Gov. George Crawford of Kansas and J. Clayton Nichols to open up this county and found the town of Grand Junction in September, 1881. He was 48; his wife Emma was 33. For the next 12 years before their deaths, they were a driving force in the opening of Grand Junction and Mesa County.But who was Richard Mobley before he came to this wilderness that many now call home? His life reads like a walk through the pages of American History, which prepared him for the role of groundbreaking founder.Richard was born in Graves County, Ky., on June 24, 1833, the son of Richard Mobley Sr. and Mary Riggs. His father had served in the War of 1812 with Capt. Zachary Taylor (later president of the U.S.). He was educated at the Aurora Academy in Filiciana, Ky. At age 18, supporting himself as a school teacher, young Richard headed to Texas. He traveled all over the state, as well as through the Western wildlands which today cover parts of Colorado.When he returned home to Kentucky he found his father, Richard Sr., had inherited the family slaves; and abhorring the institution of slavery had freed them all. Richard and his brother, Claiborne, feeling differently from their father immigrated to Kansas in 1855 to join the pro-slavery forces and help settle the question: Should Kansas be a free or slave state?During this time the Free State (anti-slavery) men formed the Kansas Jayhawkers and the Red Legs Militia to protect the Free State men from the pro-slavery men, or the Missouri guerrillas. This was the same time as Fanatic Pottawatomie John Brown (anti-slavery) was running around Kansas, also when the Missouri Ruffians (pro-slavery) burned Lawrence, Kan., in May 1856. Observing the conduct of the pro-slavery group, Richard changed his views regarding the issue and became a free-state man and joined the Republican Party. Richard's brother Claiborne remained a pro-slavery man and a Confederate.During the Civil War, Richard became the Captain of Company D, 17th Kansas Infantry, stationed in Lawrence, Kan. He helped defend Kansas from the raids of Confederate Gen. Sterling Price, William Clarke Quantrill and other bushwhacker's forces.After the war, Richard married Miss Emma Dawson in Topeka, Kan., on Dec. 24, 1868. Emma was a lady of culture and educated at Edgar Academy in Illinois. The couple moved to Ottawa County, Kan., where he had previously been a freight hauler on the Western plains and had been captured and escaped from the Indians. Thinking a career change would be safer, he became a farmer.Richard was admitted to the bar in 1863; appointed county attorney in 1865 in Ottawa County, and elected to three terms in the State Legislature. This is where he first met George Crawford. In 1869 he was appointed as land commissioner by the governor of Kansas. He helped make 37 new counties in Kansas as the head of the new counties committee. He had previously visited the Territory of Colorado in 1856 and again in 1877.NEW BEGINNINGSWhen most men would be happy to remain at home with their life secure, Capt. Richard Mobley and George Crawford made a plan to start a new community on the Western Slope of Colorado.In 1880, Richard and Emma, together with Crawford moved to Gunnison County, to wait for western Colorado to open for settlement. They worked on their plans to build a new community at the point where the Grand and Gunnison rivers met, in what is now Grand Junction.Crawford hired William McGinley to be the guide for a party consisting of Richard, M. Rush Warner, Colonel Morris and S.W. Harper. They crossed the Grand River on Sept. 22, 1881, and on the 26th, formally located Section 14 as the town site for Grand Junction.On Nov. 19, 1881, the certificate of incorporation of the Grand Junction Town Co. was filed with the Secretary of State. Building a town from the bottom up was a tough undertaking. Grand Junction was a primitive frontier town and didn't have a store or saloon. All supplies had to be purchased at the Army post south of Montrose or the town of Gunnison. Most folks lived in tents or cabins made of hand cut logs, with blankets for doors. The residents stayed cool by navigating around their abodes, following the shade as the day progressed.Life was tough during this time; the new town was being overrun with cattle thieves and hoodlums. Some were arrested, and some escaped. On April 1, 1882, Deputy Sheriff Benjamin Scott of Gunnison County, Patrick Henry Gordon, and C.A. Pierson were part of a group of citizens going after some escaped men who had crossed the river near what is now the 5th Street Bridge in a boat ferry.There were two boats of citizens crossing the river after them. The second boat back carrying Deputy Scott, Gordon, William Nishwitz and Pierson, began to sink. Pierson jumped out and barely made it to shore; Nishwitz was found hanging onto the boat; but Deputy Scott and Gordon perished. Gordon, a widower, left a large family behind.Burial services for Gordon and Scott were read by J.W. Bucklin and closing remarks by Capt. Richard Mobley.Richard and Emma took in one of the orphaned Gordon children, Rose. In the June 1885 census of Grand Junction, Rose Gordon is listed as Rose Mobley. Rose later married E.R. Gallagher in 1890.On June 22, 1882, the election to incorporate the City of Grand Junction was held with Richard Mobley, J.M. Russell and Newton N. Smith as Judges of Elections. Richard was also appointed one of the first Justices of the Peace in the city thus giving him the title of Judge.The first 4th of July event in Grand Junction was held in 1882, at the school house. Judge Mobley read the Declaration of Independence to the children and general public. Emma Mobley and the other ladies prepared a picnic dinner. A dance finished the very pleasant evening.Judge Mobley ran for the position of the first Mayor of Grand Junction on July 17, 1882, at a meeting on Colorado Avenue, but lost the election to Charles F. Shanks. Prior to the election, anticipating a win of the race, Judge Mobley resigned his position as local postmaster.On Oct. 9, 1882, at a general election, voters passed a ballot question to form Grand Junction and the surrounding area into a separate county from Gunnison County. The vote passed and on the same day a major earthquake hit the Grand Valley. The shock wave was felt through the entire state.Feb. 11, 1883, a bill establishing Mesa County was passed by both the House and Senate of Colorado. Judge Mobley as chairman of the county organization called for all residents to come together for "holding a grand meeting tonight" to share the news. Part of the story written in the Grand Junction News said: "Mesa County was born and Christened on Sunday, February 11th, in the year of our Lord one thousand, eight hundred and eighty-three."In November 1883, the first county officers of Mesa County were elected, and high on the list of names was Richard Daniel Mobley, first Mesa County judge. It was mentioned at the time of his election that the citizens of Mesa County held him in high esteem because of his character.Not wanting the history of Mesa County to be forgotten, Judge Mobley and others formed the Pioneer and Historical Society of Mesa County on April 15, 1885, at the courthouse on Sixth and Main Street. Only settlers who arrived prior to July 4, 1882 were to become members of the society.THE FATE OF EMMA MOBLEYLife in a frontier town is trying on all who journey to the wilderness for a new life. Emma Mobley, who was used to a more genteel life, began to wear down mentally from the hard life of a pioneer woman. The local paper said Emma was the "first white woman in the Grand Valley," and first to help all, and always trying to make life better in this new town. A group of friends, among them, Mr. and Mrs. Barnhouse, F.P. Brown, W.P. Elam, W.P. Quinn and others led by J. Clayton Nichols, who had known the family for years and even lived in their home, expressed worry that she was insane or distracted in her mind as to endanger herself.On April 30, 1887 this kind, gentle woman was committed to the home for the insane in Pueblo, Colo. Her husband, with heavy heart, escorted her to the hospital, and stayed with her a couple of days as she settled in. He returned home alone.Four years later in May of 1891, Emma Mobley was released and stayed with her sister, Lydia Dawson Brownlee, in Topeka, Kan. In August of that year, Richard joined his wife, and they were together for eight short weeks before her death on Oct. 20, 1891.The Grand Junction News wrote: "She gave a kindly welcome to all who came to the Grand Valley in the early days, a lady of noble qualities and her death will be sincerely mourned by all who knew her."Emma was born January 12, 1848 as Emma Dawson, daughter of Thomas Dawson, in Edgar, Ill. She is buried in the Topeka cemetery. She was 43 years old at the time of her death.LATER YEARS OF RICHARD MOBLEYJudge Mobley returned home and is mentioned in the local newspaper, buying land, and looking for eastern capitalists to purchase land in Grand Junction. About April 1892, he was appointed Commissioner Registrar of the U.S. Land office at Montrose by President Harrison and relocated to Montrose for his work.On Nov. 20, 1892, Richard Mobley married Sarah J.P. Kerston in Minneapolis, Minn., and brought her to Colorado. His new bride was reportedly a very "British Woman" and was of the historical House of Paddington England. Life was starting to look better for Richard after the long years of hard work and Emma's illness.On Oct. 11, 1893, Judge Mobley's nephew George Yates who had been ill with typhoid fever and lived in the Crawford Addition of Grand Junction, asked for his uncle to come and visit him. Judge Mobley took the Sunday train from Montrose to Grand Junction.While staying with his nephew, on Tuesday, Oct. 13, 1893, Judge Mobley arose early and started a stroll close to the railroad yard. The early morning train had just arrived from the west, and the switchmen were making their usual changes and preparing the train for its departure east. Judge Mobley was walking leisurely down the track when the switch engine with a sleeper car came up behind him. Passengers and trainmen frantically called to him, but it was too late. The train struck him. He fell under it and was dragged about 200 yards before the train stopped. He was so badly injured that Dr. Bull, who happened to be at the depot, didn't recognize him. He searched the mangled man's pockets and discovered it was his friend, Judge Mobley. Richard Mobley died about an hour later.He was married twice with no children. His second wife, Sarah, settled his estate in 1894 and moved back to Minnesota. She died of heart failure upon reading of the death of King Edward of England on May 9, 1910.Judge Richard Daniel Mobley's funeral was conducted by the Masonic Lodge 55 and the Grand Army of the Republic, John A. Logan Post 35. As one of the founders of Grand Junction and Mesa County, he left his mark on the city and county of which he helped to build. He had many good traits of character, and a kindly heart. He was a man of more than ordinary ability, but did not try to force his knowledge upon the people.Judge Richard Daniel Mobley is buried in the corner of the Masonic Section of the Orchard Mesa cemetery. His second wife, Sarah, did not put up a headstone for him, but his Civil War comrades in Grand Junction ordered a headstone for him from the government in 1901. The stone was shipped in 1924, and installed in the cemetery by the John A. Logan Post 21, Grand Army of the Republic on Dec. 17, 1924.So in the southwest corner of the Masonic Section of the cemetery lies a true pioneer, almost forgotten by the city and county he helped found. His headstone is worn and almost in the same condition as George Crawford's Tomb on the hill, worn by time and damages of man. But the dream of a city, Grand Junction, and a county named Mesa flourishes long after the dreamers have died.Think of Richard and Emma Mobley the next time you are driving in from Orchard Mesa and try to imagine what they must have seen when they crossed the river near the Fifth Street Bridge and the vision they had to build our home, the Grand Valley. One generation passeth away, and another generation cometh: but the earth abideth forever. - Ecclesiastes 1:4-----------------------------------Garry Brewer is storyteller of the tribe; finder of odd knowledge and uninteresting items; a bore to his grandchildren; a pain to his wife on spelling; but a locator of golden nuggets, truths and pearls of wisdom.=====================SOURCES & PHOTOS: Wanda Allen, Museum of Western Colorado, Loyd Files Room; Michael Menard & David Bailey; Grand Junction News; Daily Sentinel files; Snap Photo; Mesa County Library; Progressive Men of Western Colorado; History and Business Directory of Mesa County, 1885; United States Biographical Dictionary and Portrait Gallery of Eminent and Self-Made Men of Kansas; Probates of Mesa County 1883-1900; Colorado Magazine Vol. 29, Jan 1, 1952; City of Grand Junction Cemetery Information; Vicki Beltran; Joan Kruckenberg; K. Don Thompson; Debbie Brockett; Sons of Union Veterans, Grand Army of the Republican Post records, 35,18 & 21; J. Clayton Nichols and George Crawford diaries.
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You are starting to get time creep! Up to 36 mins.
My favorite twist was Marshall Windsor revealing that Lady Kathana Prestor was Onyxia--another quest chain you can't do any more, and alliance-only. (Also, less interesting after you did it dozens of times to help people who needed Onyxia attunement. But that first time was great.)
That wasn't nearly as much as a surprise if you read the novels, where Prestor is a commonly used last name by Black Dragons that disguise themselves as humans.
The only problem I see with a crafting profession "catch up" is that the gathering profs will still need to work their way up gradually. So now, any miners, which may also be your blacksmith, has no use for all that leveling ore. Can't sell it if all the blacksmiths are just skipping to ghost iron. It would be especially bad if the catch up is more efficient than leveling it normally because if you are leveling a bs/miner, you would be better off vendoring all the ore you get until ghost iron.
"he doens't need healing, he doesn't need healing, he doesn't nee-WHAOSHIT!wtf was that man!". Please stop leaning on TDR. -Teng
Regarding the questions about always getting an item vs. only sometimes getting an item. Please google "Skinner Box" and "Variable Ratio Schedule". This explains why not getting a reward every time is less "boring" than getting something every time.
Regarding the reroll on nerf question, sometimes the reality of class/spec power is not important and instead the perceptions of the playerbase are more important. If you like to group or raid, and your class/spec is not considered up to snuff you can find yourself having trouble getting a group/raid. It comes to the point that even if your class/spec is only slightly less than another class/spec that the crap that you get from other players can be a really good reason to reroll.
Oh, Lore, you need to add a time zone converter to TankSpot so that you can just tell people to use the time zone converter there instead of googling it. More hits bro.
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Ugh, I writhe in pain to see you backing the "warlocks get a DH spec" malarkey. To quote a wall of text I made elsewhere.
It would seem like a no-brainer for blizzard to add DHs at one point, although I can understand the worry with making them not step on the toes of the wide array of melee-agi classes these days, I'd rather not see them playable than see them as a 4th warlock spec, which I think would be the absolute worst way to implement them - if they really feel the need to add a proper Warlock tanking spec, which I'm likewise not keen on - 4th specs are dangerous, then I'd rather they just made a warlock tanking spec - no need to slap a DH label on it when there's no way to make a satisfying demon hunter out of the warlock specs constraints.1) Adding DH to the warlock class would require allowing Night Elves to play as warlocks - they're the poster boy for DHs, they need to be part of it.
2) Do they use caster or melee gear - both have huge ramifications.
a)DH tree uses caster gear, at which point it becomes the only melee-dps to be using the caster hit system, making them bizarrely not value expertise - I'm sure the other melee would love that. In addition, you'd be having to roll caster stats into a melee spec - which is exactly what blizzard DON'T want to do with holy paladins - they prefer holy plate to this, which says a lot.
b) DH tree uses leather, at which point warlocks become the only class in the game to be using a different armor type between one spec and another, a complete nightmare for gearing on multiple fronts.
b i) How will LFR distribute loot? Will you be trying to gear up affliction and getting leather pieces constantly? Terrible.
ii) Your gear between specs is completely uncompatible - something no other pure dps class has, and one of the major draws. Hybrids can switch specs to perform different roles, pures get to pick a spec based on what's best for the fight, you lose that if your gearset is none-existent. You're also now competing with agi users on gear - you'll probably need to pass on either cloth / leather depending on what you MS.
3) is it a 4th spec or does it replace demonology
a) If it replaces demonology, suddenly you've flat out killed a spec that a huge part of the warlock population was playing, it's been stolen from then in favor of something most of them never asked for
b) It's a 4th spec - this risks making every "deserve" a 4th spec. This flat out can't happen, suddenly the gear issues mentioned in 2) is magnified 10x as the problem applies to every class now, the lines between classes start to blur and any hope of having balance goes out the window, since blizzard can barely manage to balance what they have now, let alone 11 more specs, additionally classes start stepping on each others toes. Where does the line between the ranged rogue spec and the melee hunter spec start to blur? They have enough trouble making each rogue spec feel unique without adding more across the board.
4) You're trying to make an entire class fit into one spec of a well established class, it needs to live within that classes restrictions - which are already polar opposites to it by being a caster. At best you'll get a poor demon hunter, it's not satisfying the desires of anyone who wanted the class, because it's being cobbled together out of something that already exists. At worst, it breaks what it's trying to be latched onto, messing with the warlock class.
5) The warlock class has just been revamped. It makes zero sense to go tampering with it again, if blizzard had any intention of making warlocks demon hunters, they would have done it with the MOP revamp, they would not have explicitly made demonology it's own thing, which it certainly is - it plays nothing like a demon hunter, it has a complete absence of melee play, wields caster weapons and plays like a caster. Meta be damned.
I don't see an issue to adding a 4th spec to classes here and there. Druids currently have 4 specs. Do you see everyone rerolling to Druid now?
I don't think Agility gear would be a decent option. It would be weird in combination with the other specs, and might make players think they need the Agility caster gear. Best just make it work out with cloth gear. They could perhaps have an ability rely on Spirit, so their gearset is somewhat different from their base set, and have a little more use for Spirit cloth.
(And while Holy Priests/Disc Priests/Resto Druids/Resto Shamans can respec to Shadow Priests/Balance Druids/Elemental Shamans, Holy Paladins/Mistweaver Monks don't have a lot of use for their Int/Spirit gear when they respec.)
If you add it as a 4th spec, there's no worries about losing one of the current specs that people might love, or having the existing class/3 specs be tampered with. The way the specs currently work means they can quite well tweak all specs separately.
You're totally right about Night Elves then needing access to the class.
And they should require some kind of Vengeance meganism, but for spellpower rather than attack power, of course.
I'm not worried people will suddenly reroll, I'm worried suddenly other classes will feel entitled to a 4th spec, there's no way blizzard can add a 4th spec to every class, it simply won't work for a myriad reasons. Druids were pretty safe to add it to since they've had one longer than most people have played, adding them to classes that don't have them opens the door to people clamoring for one on their class. Blizzard have enough trouble differentiating the 3 rogue specs already, how can they fit a 4th in? Does it need to be a tank or healing spec, both of which sound ridiculous, or should it be a ranged spec? At which point, where does the line between the supposed ranged rogue spec and melee hunter spec start to blur?
That's without going into all the gearing mess, the one good argument for Demon Hunters not being their own class is there isn't enough of a niche for another dual wielding melee class, which I can appreciate. But by that logic there isn't enough room for 10 or so more specs in the game.
Warlocks getting a 4th tanking spec is worrisome purely because it opens the way to more, and the game can't handle everyone having a 4th spec. Warlocks don't have years of precedent like druids do.
Which unfortunately, is bending the lore to breaking point. Undead Paladins and Pandaren Deathknights make more sense. Mages was a stretch, warlocks snaps it.You're totally right about Night Elves then needing access to the class.
I agree, but I don't think converting spirit -> tanking stats is much better. Plenty of people argue that spirit plate is a bad idea, and they're right - but blizzard prefer spirit plate to the messy antics of converting str plate into healing stats. It would seem really hard to balance a warlock tank if it's not following the tanking model.I don't think Agility gear would be a decent option. It would be weird in combination with the other specs, and might make players think they need the Agility caster gear. Best just make it work out with cloth gear. They could perhaps have an ability rely on Spirit, so their gearset is somewhat different from their base set, and have a little more use for Spirit cloth.
And, as I said before, I've not got so much of a problem with warlock tanks, not something I want, but I'm not vehemently against it or anything, I do have a problem with giving said hypothetical tanking spec the "demon hunter" label - because how can you possibly fit the iconic, dodging, dual wielding night elf look into the warlock model without some serious sacrifices, either on the DH side or the Warlock side.
I could see warlocks getting the Demon Hunting spec next expansion, along with several other classes getting fourth specs. My reasoning being that every expansion bliz has done something with classes, even if it's something simple. BC gave horde/alliance pallys/shamans, wrath added DKs, cata expanded which races could play which class, and mop gave us monks.
So for the next expansion it could be more specs, especially since they've already set the precedence of classes having more than 3 specs with druids. And it'd probably be too soon to add another new class.
Rogues could be an evasion kind of tank, but it's more likely they stay pure DPS. An Archery tree could work quite well for them, and I don't see how that overlaps with Hunters, considering their reliance on combo points and poisons. It would be an annoying soloing spec, as you don't have a pet to keep mobs at a distance, but since you can shoot in melee nowadays, that's probably not that much of an issue.
Warriors, being the icon tanking class, could get a second tanking spec.
DKs and Paladins could get a casting spec to have more use for all that intellect plate.
Monks could have a second DPS spec, either another melee with different mechanics or a caster spec.
Priests could get a holy DPS spec.
There's plenty of interesting options to add to the existing classes. I wouldn't be surprised if we'd see some of them appearing over time.


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EL CAJON, CALIFORNIA -- More like "A huge lying thief in the digital age."
Similar to a prior review, when signing on with Cox it had been recommended that I get a bundle package so that technically even though I didn't need my land line it would be the cheapest route. My bill has never been the originally agreed price!!! Since Mid January.
So for the first couple of months my bill was 20 bucks higher because I was on the installation payment plan for original hookup (5 payments). After that, in my original order I had requested an HD Cable Box with DVR, but by the time I had gotten to sit down and look at my cable setup after the clueless tech finally left I realized the box had no DVR or HD for that matter.
After 2 more weeks for waiting for someone to come out and trade it with a HD/DVR one they still had [snip] messed up on my account!
On my next bill they thought I was paying for 2 DVR boxes and I was getting charged for 2 because the technician hadn't turned in the old one correctly and removed it from my account. So by the time this was figured on my bill I was already sick of Cox.
.I actually got it credited back 2 billing periods later, better late than never, but still wondering when the dust would settle and I could get to sticking to my budget!!! What pissed me off the most is the run around, transfers and wait times to tell them they messed up again. I value my time as much as anyone else but the wait times for every phone call was at least 10 minutes no matter when I called.
So now being on a tight budget and ready to save $$ I was like OK....I know my bill will be $152, no extra on demand movies or fights, bundled "cheapest" package and my installation paid off....then BAM!
For no reason (they still have to explain to me) my cox promotional discount decreased from $35 to $20..all of this within 6 months of initial hookup...so this is another unforeseen increase and is killing my budget!! And my taxes and fees stayed the same-Yes $20 is a big difference in this house. Even if was rich it would be the principle of the situation, but since its slim pickings I take this quite personally...this money takes away from other things that my family could enjoy hella more than cable...
As of last night I bought a Roku4, set it up all up by myself thank you very much, and have at least 3-4 media devices streaming from it and couldn't be happier. I D/C my Cox half an hour ago and proudly told them Roku...they didn't seem surprised.
Wish I would have pulled my head out of my ass earlier and saved me over $400 bucks, a lot of frustration and time wasted listening to terrible hold music. That is at least an hour of my life I will never get back....not being from this area I thought this was the company to go with, after research I know I have more independent options. Hope this review helps anyone else out there who are having similar problems with "your friend in the digital age"
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Stole My Credit Card Information
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From the get I should have known this company was a crock of you know what. Not only does every website that offers reviews have horrible horrible things to say about it, but I've even encountered some of their own employees who dislike their job.
Unfortunately for us and where we live there are no other cable companies in the area YET. So we have no choice but to stick with these scumbags or not watch TV, and have Internet.
When we first called, I spoke to a man who sounded like he knew his stuff, we told them of offers other companies were trying to sell (not telling them we have no choice but to go with them), and this man offered us a deal. A "bundle" if you will. So for the "fastest Internet, DVR boxes, movie channels, and more" our deal was 89.00. No contract. SO we said SOLD. He then transfers me to someone in a different STATE...who clearly stated he could not help me (NOW remember this last bit of info because this transfer to another state will play a crucial part into my fiasco with these people)....the man then transferred me back to a Cox representative in my area....NOT the same man as the first time naturally. So this employee then tells me the "DEAL" we we offered doesn't exists. AT ALL. So we said OK well what can you do. He offered us...the basic package I assume. Internet, and cable. ALL movie channels for the first 3 months, and then after only HBO for 100.00 a month. We said fine. Now its time to get our stuff, meaning cable box, remote, all that jazz. We go to a cox building, get our stuff, set everything up, and somethings not right. The picture wasn't coming in correctly. So we called. They sent someone out who told us they gave us FAULTY WIRES. Lovely. he fixed it and went on his way.
Time to sit, relax and watch TV with my family. NOT...think again. We turn on the TV and we have channels 10 through maybe 36....without ones in between. I call. They say this was a misunderstanding, and they would reset our box. Which they did. Turn on the TV...NO MOVIE CHANNELS. So I call AGAIN. They tell me there was something wrong with the reception and I will have the movie channels shortly. SHORTLY meaning in about a week because that's how long it took. Turn on the TV rather anxious to watch my movie channels. And all we have is HBO. (I am NOT kidding you people) I call. AGAIN. They explain to me how sorry they are and they will fix the problem. Within 24 hrs I had my movie channels, and was a happy camper.
Now its time for our first bill....176.00!!! I call. At this point these people should know me on a first name basis. They say I am being charged for having the guy come out to fix our wires!!! And also THE MOVIE CHANNELS. Now....we hadn't even had COX for more than 48hrs when this "guy" came out...so with that being said they credited our account. As well as the movie channel mishap. First bill is now 98.00. Thank you.
For the following 3 months bill is about anywhere between 98- 105. Perfect.
Here we are now...July 2010. I am starting to notice some weird activity on my personal bank account. 10 dollars here, 5 dollars here, 20 dollars here. So I call my bank and they say all they see is its a Tech Support company who works with Cox out of Florida. I am from New England...not even close to Florida. So I call up the lovely, most welcoming, understanding people at cox. HA. They inform me that they do not HAVE A TECH SUPPORT TEAM, and they do not know how this could have happened. And when I say this is all they said to me...THAT IS ALL THEY SAID TO ME! That's it. I called my bank who informed me there had indeed been fraud on my account. These people in Florida had mine and my husbands personal information including SSN. Thankfully, my bank went quickly into action and credited my account all money due back to me. Totaling in at over 100.00. I call Cox back and get pretty nasty with them cause now...after everything else that I had kind of gotten over you people steal my personal information! I had to get a whole new bank account. And you know how that goes. Everything came out of that account. So I had to call my mortgage company, my credit cards, EVERYONE to stop payments. The women whom I spoke to informed me this would be looked into and how sorry they are.
Here we are....August 16, 2010. Have not heard a THING back from COX. Not even a call as to how things are. But my bank has made about 7 to me. Get my bill for this month its 140.00. Call up for when I tell you the millionth time I kid you not. They inform me that it went up because the "PACKAGE" we were offered expired. We were never offered a package. We were told 100.00 a month no contract for a year. Its been about 5 months, although it feels like an eternity. So her I am thinking that after the stress, the BS, and what not they would offer me maybe something. At this point I would take a coupon to Dunkin Donuts. ANYTHING. They had nothing. Nothing to say. Nothing to offer. Nothing to comment on. NOTHING. NOT A THING!
I am disgusted with this company, and its lucky for them my husband and family enjoy their TV time and we cannot leave because FiOS isn't in our area, but when that day comes we will be sure to say ADIOS to this waste of a company. Please people BEWARE of this company. Beware of who you talk to. And keep and eye on all accounts. I was told this was an inside job from my bank. They told me an investigation is underway on their end with several employees from Cox, and that Cox has not cooperated with them in any way. SO please. Times are tough. And the world is a rude rude place. Read reviews before you purchase anything cause I would hate to see this happen to anyone else. Thanks for your time and I hope my experience helps others when deciding in a cable company.
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The Thief And Terrorist Of The Common Person
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LAS VEGAS, NEVADA -- This is only my point of view of this major communications conglomerate, but with that being said, I believe they should be brought up on charges. If you take anything from this tale, it should be "DO NOT SIGN UP FOR AUTOPAY WITH COX!"
My story starts in a rather benign way with purchasing COX Communications to supply my TV and internet access to my household. I have had them for years since they were my only choice. (Can we cay monopoly?) Only recently my husband and I reviewed our bill to find that we were paying a lot more and getting way less compared to various new satellite communication companies. We thought what could be better than getting more and paying less in this newly monetarily restrictive climate. Making the decision to change from COX to Satellite TV we made the calls and settled on a new provider. All that was left was to call COX and cancel. Sounds simple enough, right?
Here is where COX's dark noxious cloud settled over our household.
On a Saturday afternoon, after 5 PM, I called COX to cancel my account. They tried to argue that I never called in to complain about the service so why should they need to cancel my service. Working in a service industry, this was absurd to me! Why would I need to justify my dislike of a product to get it canceled? I don't want it any more… I have moved on… this is a break up and no we can not be friends… this it is in my right to cancel? After the COX representative forced me to come up with some bogus answer involving conspiracy theories, aliens and the need to wear tinfoil hats, she finally let me cancel the service. [This reason for canceling was for my amusement only; we all know aliens come through the toaster ;)] I had five days to return their battered cable boxes and I would even be getting a refund of $75 for part of the month.
Monday morning, I got up and doing my usual Monday routine I grabbed coffee and got on line to read the news and check my bank account. The need for coffee became no longer needed when I found that COX had gone into my checking and withdrew over $600 for no viable reason. After getting the household off to summer camp and work I got on the phone with COX to ask them the ever elusive question of "what the hell!"
After speaking with a high number of doltish moronic representatives I was finally transferred to the credit department. The credit departments response boils down to "oops, so sorry, this debit is our fault, but we will refund your money in 5 to 7 days". It has always amazed my how they can withdraw funds overnight but it takes an act of congress to put the stolen money back.
It is now Wednesday and still the account sits empty of the $600+ so I being proactive decide to call them and check on the progress. The all new doltish representative tells me they are waiting on the collection of the cable boxes to even process the "oops, so sorry, this debit is our fault, but we will refund your money in 5 to 7 days" deposit. When I exclaim, in a slightly panicked and pissed off state, you have your stupid boxes and remotes I am once again placed on hold. After what felt like 10 minutes, she came back with the comment of "oh, here they are. We can process your refund now". It is everything I can do to maintain my composer and not release a tirade of expletives and adjectives that would probably just make her ears bleed.
Now, maybe to you $600+ is not that much money but to our household it was to cover groceries, gasoline and the power bill for the house let alone a little bit a cushion till payday. Now I find myself pawing through the pantry looking for anything I can put together and call dinner (in the looses sense of the word) and coasting the best I can if I have to drive anywhere to save every drop of gas I can till either COX replaces the money they stole or payday, which ever comes first.
Thank you for reading my rant and I hope at the very least you do not sign up for autopay with COX. (Or cancel before it's too late).
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madconsumer on 07/11/2008:
just wait until you signup for satilite service. dirctv will withdraw your money at will as well. besides, satilite cannot provide the same hd programming as cable.
good luck on your switch, and when the satilite screws you over, you will back again to complain.
Anonymous on 07/11/2008:
MC, Best Answer, LOL.
Anonymous on 07/11/2008:
you made the right choice.I've been with Directv for four years,and not once have they "withdrawled my money at will" like a previous poster stated.
madconsumer on 07/11/2008:
is what I get without my jim beam!
do a search for directv, you will see starteling reviews.
Anonymous on 07/11/2008:
I don't have "satilite" service,I have satellite service.Why should I do a search? They have never taken money from my account EVER.
Anonymous on 07/11/2008:
Never give your account information to any creditor. By doing so, you authorize them to take whatever and whenever they want. This post is a perfect example. Always set up your payments with your own bank's bill pay service, that way you control what happens.
Ponie on 07/11/2008:
The poster's attempt at literary genius has failed miserably. Rather, this reads like pulp fiction. Terrorist? Thief? I suggest a good dictionary--even Google would do it.
...'(Can we cay monopoly?)...' You can say it, but just because you do, doesn't make it so. You've always had a choice, you simply did not exercise it.
Anyone who allows a business free access to their bank account(s) isn't using common sense. I determine when my bank should send a check to my creditors, not the people to whom I owe money.
I couldn't even get through the whole novella. I'm waiting for chapter two when the complaint is posted about the length of the contract that had to be signed.
Anonymous on 07/11/2008:
Ponie, best answer on all points!
Anonymous on 07/12/2008:
wonderful the way you told it. I loved the ranting!! Reminds me of my decision to go on the Quest bundle plan (connecting phone, cell, internet and satellite all on one bill) because they said I would save so much money. well, it turned out to be a freakin nightmare. Yes, in this house as well $600 is a lot of money. thanks for the story!!!!
Ladderman on 12/11/2008:
You should not be battering their cable boxes. I doubt they would send them out that way. That's vandalism.
Detah on 02/22/2009:
I am curious, where did you go for more services, and were they a nightmare also. I have had issues with all of them
Shemia on 05/14/2013:
This sounds exactly like the experience I had with both Suddenlink and Dish. I believe that when companies go into your account and STEAL money, you should be able to sue them for twice the amount that they took!!
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Never The Truth!
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LAS VEGAS, NEVADA -- I had been having issues w/ Cox about 4 months, mostly 'trying' to pay my bill.
The worst was December 2013 when payment was REFUSED!
I had signed up for auto pay on the phone w/ a rep, but I got a bill in the mail, something said 'call cox' & I came to find out customers CANNOT sign up for auto pay w/ a representative on the phone, so it was not in effect. So I wrote out a check & took it to 750 Rancho Dr store. When I walked into store I was told there was no drop box (which used to be there), so I walked over to counter on left & put it on counter in front of representative who said "I'm not accepting this". I left it none the less, but I was pretty pissed, so I went to building on Martin Luther King & Vegas Dr.
This was after 2 phone calls & all telephone reps telling me Rancho WAS a payment center. Last night my modem died, so I called & was told a tech would come out today to replace it -LIE- they DO NOT replace modems. So the representative told me Rancho was open till 7p so I quick drove there & it was closed at 6p. So tech finally showed up at my residence after I had again been to Rancho to *rent* new modem/router combo.
Through all of this I never saw 1 human [though]' I was at Corporate [headquarters] Martin Luther King.
I was consistently given false/bad info, different info from last representative I talked to. This Communications Company has no way to call their retail centers...
In 2014, are you serious?I am going to change to a different ISP as soon as I can, I suggest the reader also find a provider that actually can communicate w/ itself & its customers.
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PHOENIX AND ATLANTA, ARIZONA -- Well it began on Friday night when my mom decided to purchase internet service. We called the sales department and placed an order and paid the 30 dollar install fee. We were then told that we would have service the next day, Saturday. I call on Saturday to make sure that the service is hooked up. No you are scheduled for Sunday, I was told. No we were told it would be today, so the representative says I will send form to get it escalated. I then asked to speak to a supervisor . That's when the fun begins. Ryan a sales "supervisor" then informs me because of my previous bill, which I admit I did not pay, my mom could not get her service until I paid it or has to prove I don not live at her residence. Now when does my SSN and debt under that SSN belong to my mom. NEVER that's when.
So needless to say after finally losing it on Ryan and several other sales "supervisors". My mom was forced to pay my bill.I was then promised by another "supervisor " Benny that my moms service would not be connected as promised Saturday but Sunday and if I didn't like he would cancel my moms work order and would make sure that she would not get her refund until 6 to 8 weeks. So come Sunday and about 100 calls later the tech finally shows up at 7 pm which is messed up, but I guess since my mom wasn't paying the 60 bucks for an in home install she gets shafted. Every "manager"/ "supervisor" stated that it was very simple to hook up outside the home and that's why it was taking so long. Really? If it is that simple would that be first? Needless to say after a couple of calls to COX Headquarters, I get a very nice call from the CEO's flunkies telling me that I interfering with business and that if I keep harassing them that I will be sent to corporate security and banned for life.
Now I guess I am supposed to be scared but all this does strengthen my resolve to make life as unpleasant for this pissant and I will I promise you. I now realize why we could not get any assistant from these people because it starts at the top with the CEO and rolls down hill to the underpaid representative BAN ME FOR LIFE !!!!! I WILL NOT STOP!!!!
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Soaring Consumer on 10/16/2013:
File a complaint with your local public utilities commission.
Old Timer on 10/17/2013:
"banned for life"? That's a new one, you must have really got someones attention.
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Cox thieves and scammers
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MISSION VIEJO, CALIFORNIA -- These cox thieves and scammers came to my home to fix a cable did not wear the appropriate shoe covers, spread dog poop all over my carpet because they did not wear covers, then not only did not want to pay for it but first harassed me and then they terminated my service when I complained. I called the corporate offices in San Diego and Atlanta and this is a private company owned by filthy rich scammers who made their money stealing from the American people and probably bribing local, state and federal politicians through lobbying. In fact American small businesses and consumers are hurt by cable companies daily as they have a monopoly on high speed internet and entertainment and work in collusion with phone companies and satellite companies. I have seen Direct TV market their services in the same place with cable companies and Verizon that is supposed to be a phone company offers Cox communications to its customers in south orange county. By the way their billing practices are scammers' practices too; they bill and charge in advance and they always try and put fake charges on the bill and then you have to spend hours to fix it. I have been paying regularly my cable service for years, recently I had downgraded my service to internet only with a promotional rate and since I was no longer a profitable customer for them these scammers terminated my service. I even wrote the CEO of the company in Atlanta and he appears to be a scammer too like the local general manager who heads their Southern California operations in San Diego. They are a private company and not accountable to the public. Cox employees should be ashamed to work for such a scamming organization. Also, beware of fake reviews that say that cox is great; companies pay other companies to write them great reviews on the web.
Cox and the cable companies are masters are bribing politicians both locally, statewide and nationally that is why there is no competition and cable companies are working together with satellite companies and phone companies to keep prices artificially high. For example in Mission Viejo California, FiOS is not available and Verizon sells cox!! AT&T has limits on bandwidth and horrible customer service
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CU on 07/01/2013:
How did they scam you?
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Rebate SCAM
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LAS VEGAS, NEVADA -- We contacted Cox Communications to sign up as new customers in the hope of saving money on our internet, TV and phone services. Not only were the bills overcharging us every month, but the rebate promised to us never arrived. We called to correct the billing, and would request information on our rebate. Each time, we were told it was being processed, until we received a postcard saying we did not qualify.
We again called Cox and were told that an error had been made, and that they would "send an email" to correct the situation. SIX months later, we were told that we did qualify, and that they would again send an email. I suggested, that they keep the rebate, and just credit our account the $200 that they owed us. I was informed by the Manager, that they couldn't do that. I asked what they would be willing to do to satisfy a very upset customer. The Manager stated, that they had no customer promotions to offer us. I then told them that they would lose a good customer, his reply was that we had that option.
I signed up for service with another company (the one I had been with for eight years prior) and had all services switched over the next week. We are saving about $50.00 each month, but the best part is that we now do not have to worry about the continued billing errors, rude customer service, and to be honest....the lies. It has now been seven months, still no rebate, but no headaches as well. I would not, nor will I ever recommend this company to anyone. If you want a good company, switch to Direct TV... email me and I will give you my account number, and we both could save $10.00 per month on our bill, and they really will honor that promotion. Good luck.
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Tired of COX ripping me off
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I am in the military and live in base housing. I have had internet service with Cox for a while now and have been happy with their service until recently. In November 2010 my bill was $19.99 per month. By June 2011 they raised my rate to $21.99 per month. I called to find out what was going on. I was told that the $19.99 service was not available and the new rate was $21.99. The next month my rate was raised again to $24.99. No explanation or anything. I looked on their web site and the $24.99 in the 3 month introductory fee and it will go to $34.99. This is outrageous. I am sick and tired of COX getting rich off of their monopoly and charging more money for the same crappy service. The internet service was 3 mbps when I paid $19.99 and it is still 3 mbps at $34.99. What gives? I hope COX goes out of business and all of the owners go bankrupt and lose everything they have. Maybe then they will remember the little man trying to make an HONEST living!!!! CROOKS!!!!!!!!!
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Alain on 07/01/2011:
Since you live in base housing, speak to the officer in charge of base housing (or a designated subordinate). They may have a liaison officer who can deal with Cox directly about this. You may also want to look at this web site:
for additional information about this and similar problems.
Lee on 07/16/2011:
Cox constantly raising prices. They also change the name of an already existing service and then charge more.The attorney general of the state you live in, politicians and consumer agencies should be notified with these complaints,but people do not bother and that is why Cox gets away with it!
Rick on 09/23/2012:
How much billing does COX do when their service is unavailable ? Does COX ever take anything off your bill for downtime? Looks like a great class action lawsuit
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Customer Service
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Last week, we turned on the TV and noticed there was no sound. The picture was there but the sound wasn't. We turned to a few other channels. A few had sound, a few didn't. So I called Cox and they said they had just done an upgrade and walked me through fixing the settings on the TV so that all channels had sound. On Monday, my brother turned on the TV and discovered that some of the channels weren't showing a picture. I called Cox again and they said it was our signal and they said they needed to send a tech out. Their tech came to the house the next day, but the problem had fixed itself. All he did was turn the TV on and all the channels were fine. He said there was no charge and left.
Last night, I logged into their website to pay the bill and saw a $49.95 charge for sending the tech out. The guy didn't fix anything! So I called Cox and the CSR said they always charge a fee to send someone out. She wouldn't waive the fee. I asked to speak to a manager. The manager came on and I explained that the tech didn't do anything so why should we have to pay? She said she'd waive the fee if we bought insurance for $5 a month. I put my sister in law on the phone and she explained all the problems we had been having since their upgrade. The manager still refused to waive the fee unless we bought insurance. My sis in law said to cancel our service. The manager put her on hold.
After 20 minutes of waiting, my sis in law handed the phone to me in frustration. After another 5 minutes, someone came back on the line. It wasn't the manager it was a CSR! The manager had put me back to customer service. I explained my situation to the representative and asked to speak to a manager. The representative was very nice and put me through to a wonderful woman in their Retention Department. I explained for the fourth time what had happened. The woman was very apologetic for everything that had happened. She said the tech didn't write any notes when he came to the house so she was taking my word that he didn't do anything and she waived the $50 fee. I thanked her and told her not to cancel the service.
An hour later, the picture went out on all channels. I called Cox AGAIN and spoke to someone in technical support. The representative reset the system from his computer and all the channels started working. Now why didn't they just do that the first time I called on Monday?
Overall I am happy that I got the fee waived and the channels fixed. I just hate getting the runaround. I am glad Cox did the right thing in the end and they have kept me as a customer.
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Mpiers on 11/13/2010:
Yep, sounds about right. Your experience matches mine on so many levels.
As for losing sound and/or picture, before calling cox, try turning off the power to your Cable Box, TV, Tivo, Converter, everything. If it's all on a single power bar, turn off the power bar completely. Wait 2 minutes, turn it back on. That works for me about 75% of the time.
If that doesn't work and you need to have a tech come out, tell them that you DO NOT approve the tech coming into your house. That you ONLY approve them checking the lines outside. As long as they don't step foot in your house, they CANNOT charge you for the call. AND, if they do need to come into your house and they discover the problem was an error on THEIR part (not a matter of a loose wire or something like that), they CANNOT charge you for the service call.
Write down everything that happens when they come out. Get names every single time. You have to make a full record of everything that happens, and get it in writing.
Anonymous on 11/13/2010:
I failed to mention that when they said they had to send a tech out, I asked what the charge would be and was told that we would only be charged if they had to replace anything. When I told the manager that, she said the rep notated that I was aware of any fees charged.
Anonymous on 11/13/2010:
I have had Cox give me the runaround on mutltiple occasions. I haven't given up on them yet either.
Anonymous on 11/13/2010:
Cox, only charges a fee if the problem is not on their end. Since the tech saw your tv was working properly at the time of entrance the tech prob documented it and the fee was charged automatically.
Anonymous on 11/13/2010:
Our picture is out AGAIN. I am on the phone with Cox waiting to speak to technical support. Maybe it's time to give up on them
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Cox Communications Deceptive Practices
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P.O. BOX 9001087, KENTUCKY -- On January 30, 2007, my husband, an active duty military member, and I, went to Cox office at Williamsburg and filled up papers to get phone, cable and Internet services to be installed in a house we rent that month, because my husband identity was stolen, we were following the advise of JAG, not using our social security numbers on applications for utilities, specially, when still in doubt how this companies used customers personal information.
In order to obtained the services we had to deposit $250.90, supposed to be used as follow: $150.00 security deposit, $39.99 to buy a Modem, and $60.65 for advance payment on February's bill, before services were connected. Cox supposed to come to my house to installed the services on the morning of February 2, 2007, but didn't came, so the same day I went to the Williamsburg Cox office at 4:30 p. m., anyway they didn't came until February 6 at 2:55 P.M. still the cable only worked on the master bedroom, not in the living room were we usually watch TV. Cox was unable to connect my telephone, they came 3 times, but said were unable to connected, I kept calling until March 1, 2007, they found out that my phone line was not working! As March 19,2007 we were without phone service, but charged for, every time I called I was told that our account was not active on Cox system, but the $250.87 was cashed already. finally On March 20 my phone service was installed, I was told that Cox would credit my account for the amount of $25,84, but I never saw the refund.
I never been satisfied with Cox services, but because they are in totally control of the communications in this zone, they think they can do as they please. I been calling Cox many times because they overcharged me for the same mediocre services and always been unable to explained the reason, I don't blame the employees, they follow orders. I been to overcharged that my bill in June 2007 came for the amount of $554.87 on my statement for Cox digital telephone service said" Your current IntraLata carrier, including Internationals calls is Cox, I requested previously a plan for my international calls, I the only international calls I made is to my elderly, handicapped mother in Colombia, the cox employee told me that my plan was. 29 cents a minute, but when the $554.87 came I was told that I had changed the plan, which is not accurate because I keep a detailed record of every single call, including date, time and the name of the service representative, 13 of this calls was 1 to 2 minutes calls that not went through, Cox representative, explained to me that all 1 to 2 or 3 minutes was charged the minimal which is 3 minutes, not matter if was a second, and also I was not aware that each time a number is dialed a minimal is charged ( 3 minute ) it's why I was charged 13 calls to Colombia ( there was not communication, but charged anyway ) I felt so frustrated with Cox that I requested the limited basic, the cost $13.65 (from September 2008 )but I been charged also $32.35 which I don't know what is, so anyway I been charge for the limited basic cable and taxes a total of $46.72, but I only have the limited service! By the way when I requested the limited cable, Cox sent a man to put a trap to block the signal from the roof antenna, which cox charged me $40, it's not funny? ( Every house on this little subdivision has the same roof antenna), then my 36" TV stop working, I called Cox, they sent a guy and I was charged for the house call service, but my TV is broken, the Cox employee don't understand neither found the cause of the damaged to my TV. even they do the damaged. I disconnected the cable and I am disconnecting the internet and the phone because I don't want to deal with Cox anymore! I will be using my cell phone and go to the public library to use the Internet, a great service FREE.
To end this letter, I want to add, that I called Cox to found out that my security deposit is gone! Cox employee thought my English was not proficient ( maybe true ) he offered me to put a Spanish speaker on line for me, I spoke with the Spanish guy, I asked for my security deposit, he told me that Cox used that money for my June 2008 bill!!! When I told him to go to the June 2008 records, he was unable to said nothing else, because I was charged $554.87 amount I paid in full, to avoid been harassed by Cox, the taxes for this bill was $71.88, check this surcharges 0.07, $2.30, 0.83, 0.75, something called my attention is this: Federal Universal service Fund $45.20, Communications sales tax $22.73 I don't have a minimal idea what I been paying for. My security deposit is gone, not word from Cox.
I am getting ready all my documentation from 2007 to 2009 and I will send it to BBB, the Federal Trade Commission, my Congress man and to a Senator in Washington, and to the news papers, we can't let Cox go away with all they are taking from us!
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Good luck to you and thank you for your husband's military service to our country.
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I understand you wanting to write the congressman and FCC and so forth. All these people are evil. 1996 Clinton signed the telecommunications act giving total monopolies to companies like Cox Cable. These people in the government are funding, and actively involved with destroying the USA. We have a pedophile muslim president who has formulated a very perverse doctrine for all schools to teach children to be gay starting at 3 and younger. These same govt people are giving our tax money to terrorists to kill, mutilate, eat, etc to young babies and children. I sure don't think it is going to do any good to write people like this for anything. They are part and parcel to these extensive frauds and extortions. Look at Wells Fargo and Bank of America. They have adopted policies now that will make business even more difficult to operate. When a customer gives you a check from those institutions they checks are worthless. These banks have made it to where you can't verify the check and if there are any funds in the account. New policy I found out about the hard way. These companies and people need to be destroyed. It is something how crime can go to such a level and the American people are just being sucked dry of life.
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Reviewed by: Shelbs001
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Title: The product was great but...
Date: Apr 28, 2014
I bought the giraffe pull string piñata for my sister and brother-in-laws gender reveal. The piñata worked great and was a lot of fun. My problem is that one of the horns was broken when I received it. The piñata was not packaged well and during delivery the box was crushed a little so that was disappointing but at least it wasn't an essential party of the giraffe. Also I received a coupon that was already expired which is kind of tacky.
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Reviewed by: Jenn19
Title: My purchase
Date: Nov 10, 2012
I'm satisfied with my purchase, but I got a little disappointed because I was expecting a bigger pinata.
Reviewed by: graysgaga
Title: Pinata
The kids loved it and I felt it was better to pull the ribbons than go all out swinging a bat!
Reviewed by: Patita
Title: Very cute but very small
Date: Oct 23, 2012
Cute pinata; however, it is just too small considering that you are not able to fill the neck, head, and extremities of the giraffe, just the small trunk.
Reviewed by: PattiC
Title: Love this!
Date: Oct 03, 2012
Because of the age of the kids at my party, we didn't use it at a hitting piñata. We used it as a decoration since my niece loves giraffes! It was the cutest decoration ever! Now it is in her room! :)
Reviewed by: BeckyK
Title: Great Pinata
Date: Sep 11, 2012
I bought this Pinata for my daughters first birhtday party. Sha had a giraffe themed party. It ended up raining the day of her party so we had to do the pinata inside. The pull strings made this very easy. The kids all lined up and were able to "break" the pinata by using the pull strings. This was a fun activity for the kids as well as the adults to watch! Also, because of the pull string, I could reuse the giraffe for a future party because it did not get busted up like a traditional pinata. It was super cute too!
Reviewed by: Bnicole
Location: Lancaster, OH
Title: Didn't work
Date: Aug 28, 2012
We purchased this pinata because we liked the idea of pulling strings instead of a bunch of kids swinging a dangerous bat around! All five kids took turns pulling strings until they got to the very last string, and nothing happened. My husband ended up ripping open the pinata with his hands (not very fun for the kids). Also it is SOOO tiny. Barely held any candy. It is very very cute though, makes a nice decoration :)
Reviewed by: WTMAL
Location: San Ramon, CA
Title: 1st Birthday Fun!
Date: Apr 25, 2012
This was a perfect complement to my daughter's Safari themed 1st birthday party. The giraffe was a little smaller than I had expected, but provided so much fun and enjoyment nonetheless.
Reviewed by: crumbs
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Title: Unique Pinata
Date: Mar 17, 2012
I loved this pinata! My daughter loves giraffes so for her 1st birthday I wanted a giraffe themed party. I went around stores looking for giraffe supplies and couldn't find any anywhere! I googled "giraffe pinata" and this website popped up so I checked it out and fell in love with it. The pinata holds a good amount of candy and it is the right size for about 8-10 kids.
Reviewed by: JennMM
Title: Lots of Fun
Date: Mar 05, 2012
This cute giraffe was a huge party hit with the kids.
Location: Harrisonburg, VA
Title: Best Pinada Ever
Date: Jan 27, 2012
This Pinada was adorable. My little boy and all this friends enjoyed it so much. It is was great for indoor use. BUY IT! :) It is a little small, but appropriate for little children.
Reviewed by: monkeyface0072
Location: ohio
Date: Nov 27, 2011
It was a very cute giraffe and it worked nicely. It was just like the picture and description given. I just wish they would make one just like this but bigger.
Reviewed by: LUCKY3
Location: STONY POINT, NY
Title: SO CUTE!
Date: Sep 23, 2011
Reviewed by: Elszegda
Title: Fun for little ones.
Date: Sep 09, 2011
I bought this for my one year old granddaughter's birthday. The kids did have a few minutes of fun but it didn't last very long. There was plenty of room for lots of candy though. The pull strings were a plus for an indoor party as well.
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