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Most offensive customer service EVER
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TULSA, OKLAHOMA -- We had a defective mattress from one of MBF's stores, Rooms Today. Customer service directed us to Mathis Brothers and we began dealing with them. We were met with extreme hostility at all steps when trying to resolve the issue. A representative from the company came to our home and acknowledged that the mattress in question was indeed defective. We were advised to go to Mathis Brothers to choose a replacement mattress, as we were under warranty. We went to MB and found the mattress that the salesperson stated was "identical" to the one we already had (it was the new model, but 3 salespersons have told us they are the exact same mattress, including the woman we originally bought it from, which is why we bought it). We then came back the next day to meet with the customer service department to complete the exchange details. The customer service representative (Joe) greeted us impolitely and did not get up from his desk to acknowledge us. We were told that we would have to pay $60 for the company to come pick up our DEFECTIVE mattress and bring our new mattress. We then were told that we would only receive store credit, which would not allow us to replace the mattress with one of equal quality because the price had gone up 30% in the FOUR months since we purchased the defective mattress. We were also told that we could not be refunded our money. Because we could not believe that we were being asked to pay $360+ just because we had a defective product, we asked to speak to the manager (Tom), who met us at customer service. Tom approached us with a very combative attitude from the beginning and never showed any sign of listening to what we had to say. I cannot put into words (at least in polite company) how unthinkably offensive and disrespectful Tom acted toward us. We explained to him that there was a difference in returning the product (and getting store credit) versus having a warranty that should replace a defective product. He cut us off and said we would have to talk to another customer service person the following day (Justin Lewis). As he walked out the door, he stated, "you didn't even buy the mattress at this store!" While that is correct, the tone of the comment was that we were stupid and/or cheap. We had been told that if we had any issues with our mattress, we could return it and have it replaced with another just like it. This absolutely was not the case. The entire situation was clearly a bait-and-switch. We bought a defective product, we are not being given a replacement or one of equivalent quality, and are also not being given our money back.
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tnchuck100 on 01/06/2011:
You have two choices:
1. Small claims court.
2. Let them get away with it.
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Mathis brothers - NEVER AGAIN
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TULSA, OKLAHOMA -- We bought a very expensive living room set ($2800) and the added protection plan ($400). It was delivered about 2 weeks after purchase as promised. the movers ripped the upholstery on the couch getting it in the door. they took it back and brought me a replacement 2 weeks later (promised the next day). All was good for about 11 months then the mechanism for the recliner quit working. called in to have it fixed but the protection plan does not cover structure, only upholstery. They offered to contact the manufacturer and order the parts to repair and it would be under warranty. a month goes by, no calls, no parts. I call to find out that the parts were never ordered. they will call Lane and get the parts. I get a call back 2 weeks later that the chair is no longer under warranty. $95 for repair parts. I paid and asked for service to install. they don't do repairs, only warranty work. No matter if you want to pay miles and hours for the work, they don't do that. just happened to be in Tulsa and stopped in to check on parts a couple weeks later. they said yes they were in and were scheduled to deliver next week. I asked about the phone call, response was sorry about that. they dug the parts out of the delivery truck and gave them to me. I get home, pay a guy to dismantling the chair and rebuilding it for $100. sit down in it and I'm looking at the ceiling. He tells me that apparently the parts are for a different chair because it isn't balanced correctly. I called and they said "sorry about that". they'd order the replacements and have them out next week. I told them do not deliver to me, I'll bring the chair to Tulsa and you can fix it in your shop. the showed up at my house 3 weeks later. I loaded the chair and parts and hauled it to Tulsa. asked how long to repair, they said 2-3 days usually. we'll call when it's finished. 2 weeks later I call to check on progress, they say it's finished. I asked about the phone call, they said "sorry about that". I go to pick it up and it's still not right. exactly the same issue as when I took it in. They told me they changed out the mechanism. I said it must not be the right mechanism. they said they'd take it to their shop and call me when it's finished, which is normally 2-3 days. we'll see.
totaled up to $400 useless protection plan, 3 120 mile round trips to Tulsa (2 pulling a trailer), 4 months without a piece of my living room furniture, plus parts, labor, and additional heartburn.
I've never written a complaint review. And I've been shafted on a lot of deals, but this takes the cake. I'll never buy another thing from Mathis Brothers as long as I live, even if I have to pay more and drive further to get it.
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Quoted Incorrect Price - Tagged $899, Quoted $899 But The Tag Was Wrong
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TULSA, OKLAHOMA -- My husband & I purchased a mattress and box springs plus a bed at Rooms Today (Owned by Mathis Brothers) 12/20/2008. In walking through the bedding gallery while waiting for the cashier to get our ticket ready, I spotted a Lady Americana knock-off set of the Temperpedic bedding. The price on the tag was $899 and the salesman showed us that the bed was adjustable and said it was priced this low because that it was the last one in stock and the new models were coming in. He said the queen size was $899 or we could buy a twin size for $799 and that it was an exceptional deal. Just so happens that one of our good friends had back surgery (4-vertebrates repaired) the week before and was in severe paint trying to sleep on his old mattress. I called him but he was asleep and didn't answer. My husband & I picked up the items we had purchased and my husband drove 20 miles to our friend's house to check on him and tell him about this "exceptional deal". Our friend said he wanted to buy it immediately. I called the salesman to tell him to call our friend immediately for his credit card number and my husband was going to drive back to Tulsa to pick up the queen size bed. The salesman was very happy to get everything ready for my husband to pick up.
THEN, 5 minutes later, the salesman called me back and said there had been a mistake. The "adjustable foundation" was $899 and the mattress was another $800+. I told him to call my husband who was unloading our purchases at our friend's house to have room on the trailer to come back and get this bed and tell him about the mistake. So - he did. Needless to day, no special discounts, no other offers, nothing but "I'm sorry" was made - just "sorry, we can't sell it to you for what the ticket was marked". It was too late by this point to return everything we had purchased today - BUT, believe me, everything is going back tomorrow morning for a full refund and we are going to the only other store in Tulsa that I know of that isn't owned by the Mathis Brothers and purchase different items. I just got off of the phone with the store manager at Snow's - Barry - and he says they have a lot of people that come in with complaints about Mathis Brothers. I could also tell anyone reading this quickly that another couple that are friends of ours purchased a bedroom suite for a little over $6,000 at Mathis Brothers two years ago and they delivered broken pieces FOUR different times over a period of six weeks before our friends told them to take back everything and give them a refund.
They would not give them a refund since they had had one of the pieces for the full six weeks - a dresser (the only piece that wasn't broken in the initial delivery) but would give them a store credit towards a "different" bedroom suite. They had to go back to the store and go up in price from just over $6000 to over $8000 to get a bedroom suite that was not cracked, split or broken. Since then, they have had more problems with this bedroom suite splitting on the 4-poster bed posts, hinges breaking, etc., but Mathis Brothers will not do anything to help. I'M DONE WITH MATHIS BROTHERS AND ALL OF THEIR STORES. Since they own most every furniture store in Tulsa, it's very difficult to buy furniture here. In the last 2 months, my husband and I have purchased new living room furniture and dining room furniture from the AMISH Furniture store in Chouteau which is very expensive but they are the most caring, careful bunch of people that I have ever worked with and if it hadn't been for the fact that they don't sell mattress sets, I would have made this purchase there too.
What Rooms Today did to us today was very typical of the old "bait and switch" game. BEWARE MATHIS BROTHER'S OWNED STORES!!
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Anonymous on 12/21/2008:
You are going to go through all the trouble to return furniture you just purchased due to a misunderstanding of the price of an item that wasn't purchased?
Oh the drama.
Mistakes happen. At least they called you before you made the trip back for nothing.
Unless there is an unconditional return policy, I would expect you may be charge a restocking fee for returning merchandise without a valid reason.
old fart on 12/21/2008:
Rob.. it appears that the salesman neglected to tell the purchaser that the mattress and foundation were separately billed items, leaving them with the impression that the whole kit and kaboodle was $899...
Anonymous on 12/21/2008:
I don't see what the issue is here, the salesman called you back *within 5 minutes* to let you know he had made a mistake and apologized. What did you want him to do? I don't understand why if a store employee makes a mistake, the expectation is that they must honor the price or offer a discount of some sort.
Also, you mentioned a friend that had bought $6k worth of broken furniture, yet that didn't stop you from making your purchase with Mathis Bros, but this mattress 'incident' did?
bixbykano on 01/29/2009:
Robf - you sound like you may be employed by Mathis Brothers or a similar store - wait until something like this happens to you. Old fart - yes, it would have been nice if they had offered anything - but absolutely nothing was offered. The sign was posted over the bed and foundation as ONE PRICE and the salesman did tell me they were correcting it. At least he did apologize. Justcuz - If you went to buy a car and the price of $24,900 was on the windshield - would you assume the tires and wheels that the car sits on would be included? And, the reason that we went to a Mathis owned furniture store is that they own EVERYTHING in Tulsa except Snow's Furniture and that is where I ended up buying the replacement pieces - at a lower price because one of the owners of Snows knew what had happened. Snows is located 10 miles from my office and two of the Mathis owned stores are within 4 miles. I will drive the distance for any future purchases. And, since this happened, I have told over 20 people about it and several of them have had bad experiences with Mathis owned stores also. That's all.
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False Promises of Delivery
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RIVERSIDE, CALIFORNIA -- We purchased an Aspen Bedroom Set from Mathis Bros on 2/9/09. The night stands and dresser were in stock but the bed would be 4 weeks away. When we got home we decided to add a TV cabinet. This item was also in stock for immediate delivery. We paid for all items in full at the time of order. The day before delivery, Mathis called and left a message saying we owed them money. We didn't get the message for several hours and then called them back. Apparently they forgot to charge us shipping on the TV cabinet ($24.00). We paid the charge by credit card over the phone. The next day the night stands and dresser arrived but no TV cabinet.
Called their office to see what happened. We were told that the remaining cabinet would be delivered the next day and that we need to be home. So, now we have to be home two different days to receive part of the furniture we ordered. OK fine. Two weeks later, one of our night stands shows signs of termite dust. Not knowing what if was, we cleaned it off. Within a few days, a lot more dust appears. We call Mathis Bros. to get it replaced. They say that we would have to pay them to make a special pickup of the night stand or we could wait for the bed to arrive at which time they would pick up the night stand. We didn't want the termites in our house so we took pictures of the dust on the stand and then delivered the stand to their store (20 miles). While dropping off the stand, we showed them the dust.
They seemed concerned and set it off by itself. A clerk wrote up our complaint and (we thought) processed the night stand back into stock and reordered a new one. Several days later we received a credit memo to our credit card reimbursing us for the night stand we returned. We called to make sure they reordered the replacement night stand. No, they didn't. Two weeks passed and our bed was now due for delivery. We called to get a specific date but were told that it would be four more weeks. They explained to us that the salesperson should never have given us a four week delivery date in the first place. Upset, we filed a complaint with the store. We received a timely response explaining that the furniture wouldn't have any termites as the cargo bin coming from China gets sprayed prior to unloading! This was the first we knew that our "AspenHome" furniture was coming from overseas. More upset now, we emailed the clerk back to voice our dismay. The store manager [snip] emails back assuring us that she believes the termites exit and that Mathis is apologetic that we have not been kept informed of the delivery delay. Two days later we get a phone call from our salesperson saying the night stand will be delivered in a few days and the bed may arrive at the end of the week. We received the night stand but no bed.
Late the following week, we call Mathis to see when the bed would arrive. The new delivery date will be two to three weeks! If we are unhappy with that delivery timeframe, they will be happy to refund our $4,000 and pick up the furniture. Isn't that some concession! We've slept on the floor for nine weeks(on a mattress), after ordering furniture that was promised delivery in four weeks. Do we bail out now or wait the two to three more weeks for delivery? All we know for sure is that Mathis Bros Furniture couldn't have handled this worse. Our friends and family come to our house and marvel at our patience. This can't be good advertisement for a major company. Will they wake up? Bet not! If the bed is delivered as they now promise, it will have taken twelve weeks to get a bed that was promised in four weeks. Good job Mathis Bros.
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Attempted Fraud
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INDIO, CALIFORNIA -- I bought a new office suite from the Mathis Brothers Store in Indio, on June 9th,2008. They had 5 of the 7 pieces in stock, and promised the two remaining pieces by the end of the month.
We got the 5 pieces home and upon unboxing them, discovered that 2 of them were damaged.
We took the damaged goods back.
June 25th, they call and say that 2 of the pieces are in, but they can no longer get the Main piece, (the desk), and they offer us the damaged desk that we returned, at a discount. I tell them NO, we want the NEW furniture that we paid for.
July 3rd, they call, saying all pieces are in.
When we get there, they try giving us the damaged desk that we returned, back to us.
We refused it and they said that was the only one they had. We told them to cancel our entire order, and mysteriously they came up with a NEW, in-the- box desk.
We Got it home, and when unboxed, discovered that it too had been dropped from a forklift, crushing a corner and breaking it off.
Mathis Brothers offered to have someone repair it.
We refused. They told us they would order new, and put notes on the account, to insure only new, undamaged furniture would be delivered.
July 10th. The truck got here and started to unload a "Used" unboxed Hutch. I told the driver we did not order that. He then stated to unload a "Used" unboxed desk. I could see cracks in the side, where it had been screwed into another piece of furniture.
I told the driver that it was supposed to be New, In-the-Box furniture. He told me, they told him, to tell me it was new.
I refused the delivery and called Mathis Brothers. They said that there were notes on my account to only deliver NEW, In-the-box furniture. They could not understand how used furniture was being delivered.
They now tell me that they will deliver "New" furniture, this time, and I should expect delivery by July 25th, almost 2 months after my original purchase.
What do you want to bet, they deliver used, damaged furniture again, and try and pawn it off on me as "New" ?
Use "Extreme" Caution when dealing with this company, as they will attempt to charge you full, premium price, and deliver used, damaged, or Showroom Demo, furniture, and Fraudulently pass it off as new.
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tnchuck100 on 07/10/2008:
It's time to give it up. By now they have proven their inability to correct a problem. You have been more than reasonable with them. Get your money back. Find another store.
dan gordon on 07/10/2008:
they offered you the 'used' furniture at a discount> Why not just take it? Especially if its a good discount. A desk isn't like a sofa that you sit on or it gets abused.
b9030w on 07/15/2008:
This was NOT minor damage. The entire side of the natural wood desk was split, where they had screwed the desk to the base unit. This apparently was from their showroom floor, and was done to keep the unit from tipping over. In doing so, they destroyed the desk.
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Our Mathis Brothers buying experience
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TULSA, OKLAHOMA -- We were nearing the end of our protracted living room makeover, and decided to go to Mathis Brothers Furniture (MBF) in Tulsa,OK of buy a new sofa, loveseat, and cocktail table. We live in Coffeville, KS, which is around 70 miles from Tulsa, and were attracted by the excellent prices offered by MBF. Overall, this furniture buying experience was to good one, in spite of a few problems encountered.
This journey began on 10-20-07 at the MBF store at 71st and 169 Hwy, and the first salesman to greet us was Charles King. I had read horror stories about the salesmen swarming upon customers at MBF, and was somewhat apprehensive. Charles King greeted us and introduced himshelf and we immediately informed him of why were there and what we were looking to buy. Charles quietly and methodically guided us to the furniture area that contained what we were seeking. I recommend Charles King as your salesman of choice should you choose to shop at MBF; you can ask for him at the desk when you enter the store.
Eventually, we made a decision on the sofa, loveseat, and cocktail table to purchase. Charles had watched patiently, and observed that we were drawn to a particular sofa/loveseat combonation, and proceeded to develop the sales paperwork to give us a bottom line on the cost.
Charles, then guided us to the checkout counter to pay for the selected furniture, and stayed near until the sale was completed to answer any questions that arose.....and there were several. It took at most 20 minutes to complete the deal.
The furniture was to be delivered to Coffeyville on November 2, 2007, and it was delivered on time as scheduled.
Now, this should be the end of the story, but it is not. The furniture arrived, but the sofa was a reclining sofa and had a faulty mechanism that would not allow it to remain locked in the down position; the sofa went back on the truck. The loveseat was a dual reclining type with a console between the seats and it had a small tear in the leather; it, too, was returned. We were back where we started, with no furniture in our LR, so on Sat, (11-3) we drove back to MBF to find a different sofa/loveseat. We were successful in finding a replacement (the selection is extensive), and now had to go through the accounting process.
While this took longer than during the original purchase, it was not excessive, in my opinion. At the cashier's desk, it was somewhat more difficult, in that it had to pass through 3 hands to come up with the appropriate balance due. One of the difficulties involved finding the returned furniture. Our furniture was delivered and returned on a Friday, and the practice MBF is to leave the furniture on the truck to be logged into inventory on the following Monday. The bottom line reflected the new balance for the furniture and they gave us immediate credit for the returned furniture.
Our replacement furniture arrived on the following Friday (11-9), and was delivered on time. The sofa/loveseat arrived in good condition and the cocktail table had some very minor abrasions that were resolved with a furniture marker. The table was structurally sound and otherwise free of defects.
A follow up call to MBF customer service on Monday (11-12) confirmed that the returned furniture was back in MBF's inventory.
So, while the process of acquiring our new furniture was extended and somewhat convoluted, the end result was quite satisfactory. For a one-stop furniture shopping experience with an extensive selection (try finding some furniture NOT made in China.....) and low prices we recommend Mathis Brothers Furniture of Tulsa.
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Very poor communication with customers
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TULSA, OKLAHOMA -- My husband and I were in Tulsa on a Friday evening. We decided to stop in at Mathis Brothers Furniture and shop for furniture to furnish our recently built 3600 sq.ft. home. We intended to simply browse since we were about 2-3 weeks from move-in date. As we walked past the "As is" room a couple of pieces of leather living room furniture caught my eye. We are decorating our new home in a country french style and these pieces looked just right. I was a little disappointed to find they were repossessed, but they had character and had that "distressed" look about them. The young salesman in the room told us if we liked the pieces we had better pay for them or put a deposit down to hold them, because they surely would not be there long. We put a $100 deposit and planned to pick them up at the beginning of the week since we live 60 miles away. On Monday, at 1:10 pm the young salesman called our home phone. I answered since I was home for lunch. He stated that people were wanting to buy the pieces. I replied "But, they are ours. We put the deposit on them." He then said, "I didn't tell you they had to be picked up within 48 hours?" I told him, "No, you did not." He then went on to say, "If you come get it today, the warehouse will be open until 7:30p.m." I told him we would be there. I called my husband and he told me to just call him back, pay for the pieces by credit card and pay to have them delivered since he doubted they would fit in the back of our truck. I called the salesman back who explained, "Oh, they will fit in your truck and the warehouse staff will help you load it and tie it down. So save your $80 and just come pick it up and pay for it then." I agreed. Just as we were ready to leave to drive the 60 miles, storm clouds rolled in. I tried to reach the salesman again by his cell phone. All the salesmen are reached by cell phones. I don't know if Mathis Brothers pays for these or not, but you can't have them paged overhead. A strict policy is in force for them to be reached by cell. Well, guess what? I could never get him back on his cell. So, I called the main phone number for the store to give them my credit card number to pay for the furniture. I was told the pieces had been sold to someone else. I asked, "What do you mean? I was told I could come pick it up as long as I made it before the warehouse closed." The cashier told me I could speak to a manager if I liked. So, I told him I would like. I spoke to a man who identified himself as the store's senior floor manager. He stated the strict policy is in place and would be followed. When I commented that I was disappointed in that decision, he stated, "I do apologize, but that is the policy. If you would like to buy something else, I am at liberty to give a 10-20% discount." I told him, "I feel your company has created an injustice to a potential future buyer." He simply stated, "That's our policy." So I ended with, "It is my policy to give my business to someone who will place emphasis on customer service. And that place is NOT Mathis Brothers Furniture."
Company Response 11/13/2008:
At the store we have what is called a asis room. On all four walls we have signs that state that it must be picked up within 48 hours. We opened our store in Jan. 02 and the sgins have been up since opening day.
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Anonymous on 07/09/2007:
Did you get your $100 deposit back?
Skye on 07/09/2007:
Too bad you weren't able to get the chairs, but at least he did offer you 10-20% off a purchase.
Will they be applying the $100.00 to the new furniture you select?? Or are you done with them?
MISSYWAT on 10/15/2007:
I had a HORRIBLE experience with MATHIS BROTHERS and ROOMS TODAY in Oklahoma City, Oklahoma and will NEVER shop there again! I have posted 2 reviews online.
David Smith on 07/24/2012:
I have had the same problem (twice). They lost my business altogether. Even if I have to pay higher prices, I'll go somewhere else.
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Unbelievable No Response
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CALIFORNIA -- On Saturday 2-2-13 my wife and I went to Mathis brothers in Ontario, ca. We were greeted immediately at the door by a salesmen. Gilbert was friendly but I felt like I was buying a used car. We found the furniture we liked and bought it $1981.00. The next day was Superbowl Sunday and our stuff was to be delivered between 4pm & 9pm. Those times came and went no call no show. When I called on Monday to see what happened I was told our salesman never scheduled our delivery. We were told they would deliver Tuesday between 4 7 9 again. They did show up earlier then expected around 5:30pm. However they did not have the slat for the bed frame that the box spring & mattress would lie on and said they would bring them back on Wednesday evening. I received a call on Wednesday afternoon from the same delivery company from Mathis brothers stating the would bring out the correct slats on Thursday. I was promised a 10% discount when I first called to complain on Monday that did not happen I've left 2 voicemail messages on Tuesday & Wednesday for the gm (Laura[snip]) and did not receive a call back. On Thursday at 11:00am I called again to speak to the gm I actually spoke with her assistant who said she was on the phone. I explained my issue to the assistant and she said she would have Laura call me back. I'm still waiting...........
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Furniture Protection Plan is apparently useless.
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TULSA, OKLAHOMA -- I purchased a living room grouping from Mathis Brothers Furniture a year and a half ago. At the time, I decided to pay the extra $400 to purchase the Furniture Protection Plan and have the furniture sprayed with the protectant to keep stains at bay. Within 6 months, it was apparent that the furniture had no protectant sprayed on it and furthermore, the stains were the least of my problems. The furniture is falling apart. The structural frame has failed in both the loveseat and the couch. I was horrified to learn that the furniture protection plan does not cover structural problems but they would send someone out to see the stains and the mishapen cushions. A month later, I called again as no one had visited to see the furniture. 2 months later I actually visited the store's customer service department and complained that no one had been to my home to inspect the damage so that it could either be repaired or replaced. They placed a call and said that someone should be in touch with me by the following Monday. Someone did finally call me and again, explained that someone would be out the next day to inspect the damaged furniture. I am still waiting for someone to show up. What a HUGE waste of $400.00.
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Wendy Potter on 01/07/2014:
I am getting the run around getting my soft and recliners fixed as well. Wish I had read this review before I paid the extra as well.
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Help Fight Mathis Brothers Furniture
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Gus G
OKLAHOMA CITY, OKLAHOMA -- Dear Consumer,
I am writing this invitation to all that have endured the painful experience of dealing with Mathis Brothers Furniture (MBF) customer service.
I too have had a horrible experience and I have found that we are at their mercy. We need to join together in an effort to bring light to this injustice and hold MBF accountable to their actions.
I purchased a sleeper sofa on March 17th of 2008 and it is now Jun 24th of 2008 and they have just rescheduled the delivery date for the 4th time and its now Jun 30th! How can they expect me to trust them?. Itâs worth mentioning that they have never attempted to contact me to let me know the item was not arriving on time, I have had to make contact with them every time. Also, the careless attitude in which they deliver the news is offensive, like a slap in the face. Not only are they not interested in keeping you as a customer but they disrespect you with their carefree way of handling your call. As if they are doing you a favor in taking the time to look for you item.
The reason I was given (their excuse) is that the manufacturer is waiting on a full truck load before driving it down to their store⦠Can you believe this company does business and stays in business this way!! So, does this mean that if the manufacturer doesnât have enough order to fill a full truck until Nov I will have to wait until then for my sofa? I am sorry, but I paid for my sleeper sofa I should not have to wait for anyone else to order.
Since there is nothing we can do as individual consumers, this is what I suggest; Please, if you have had any negative experience in dealing with MBF file a complaint with the Better Business Bureau of Oklahoma, it will not take you more than 5 min to fill out and I am including their web address below:
Also, you can file another complaint with the Attorney General for Oklahoma at:
MBF is a member of the BBB and must respond to each and every complaint and try to resolve it. If they have enough complaints they will lose their member ship and most importantly they will realize that they are not untouchable. They must be held accountable for their lousy business practices and the consumer must have a âBuyer bewareâ for this unethical furniture dealer.
Please, take the time to immediately file your complaint regardless of how long it has been.
Together we will make a difference and bring a little justice to this world.
Thank you,
Gus G.
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cherpep on 06/25/2008:
Perhaps you can arrange to ship the sofa yourself. Due to the high price of fuel, many transportation companies are limiting their hauls to full loads. Otherwise, the payment for the trip doesn't cover the gas. The more you haul, the more you get paid.
If they will let you ship it yourself, you could try uship.com. Many truckers are trying to find things to haul on their way back from a paid delivery. They would prefer to make a few more bucks than haul an empty trailer. This site allows them to bid on these moves, and consumers get some cheap shipping.
Anonymous on 06/25/2008:
BBB is a joke, and has no clout with these people. Why not just get your money back and go elsewhere?
Anonymous on 06/25/2008:
Mathis Brothers is well known for their excellent customer service. I find it odd that they're treating you disrespectfully although I must say I don't see how it's their fault when a manufacturer doesn't deliver product but then again you're the customer and the customer is always right. Good luck!
Mrs. Fantastic on 06/25/2008:
They're not rescheduling your delivery date- the manufacturer of the sofa is pushing out their delivery date. Quite honestly, Mathis Brothers should've promised you a later date just in case this happened. However, their hands are tied if they don't have the sofa to give you. They're hardly 'unethical'.
samtheman on 06/25/2008:
I'd say that three to four weeks should be the "expected" delay in receiving furniture from the factory. Anything beyond that is a bit excessive. What if you were moving into a new home and needed the furniture? I know "needed" is a loose term since air mattresses and card tables are relatively cheap, but I believe I'd have cancelled my order and gone elsewhere at this point.
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Road would be fine, I took my commuter bike these past two days and will again tomorrow, an alloy framed bike...given my Fondy a rest!
Just mind the mud if you use the section from QUT to Milton!

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quote:I assume if Rummel wins this weekend the semi-final will be in Yenni regardless of the opponent?
quote:A lot of our key players played in last year's game, and we also took a road trip earlier this season to Shreveport to play Loyola Prep and rolled them, so I'm hoping that experience will help. (of course, no one mistakes them for Calvary, but we did have to ride and play)
quote:It's just frustrating to play a more difficult schedule in order to get a higher seed and STILL get stuck in the same place as last year when the seeds were reversed. As I said before, there isn't much incentive to bust your hump during the season when seeding matters little once the playoffs get underway.
quote:Posted by Message GynoSandberg LHSAA Quarterfinals thread People are acting like Rummel is small at not physical. They will roll Ouchita
quote: 5A 1 Rummel at 9 Ouachita 5 Catholic (BR) at 13 Mandeville 6 Airline at 3 West Monroe 2 Barbe at 7 Parkway 4A 8 Vandebilt Catholic at 1 Neville 4 Teurlings Catholic at 21 McDonogh #35 14 Lagrange at 6 Holy Cross 10 St. Augustine at 2 Karr 3A 1 Parkview Baptist at 9 North DeSoto 13 Jennings at 5 Livonia 22 East Feliciana at 14 Farmerville 26 Iowa at 2 Notre Dame 2A 25 Riverside Academy at 1 John Curtis 21 Many at 4 Springfield 3 University at 6 Calvary Baptist 2 Evangel at 23 Carver 1A 9 Southern Lab at 1 Ouachita Christian 5 Kentwood at 13 Basile 6 West St. John at 3 Vermilion Catholic 2 Haynesville at 10 Westminister Christian
quote:Parkway with the upset in 5A
quote:Parkway with the upset
quote:That being said I don't see it.


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Mark Webber claimed his second pole position of the season as he edged team-mate Sebastian Vettel in Korea on Saturday.
Although Vettel was the favourite to take pole position at the Yeongam circuit, it was his Aussie team-mate who stole the show with a 1:37.242. That put Webber 0.074s up on Vettel and secured the 36-year-old's second pole of the season.
The second row has Lewis Hamilton alongside Fernando Alonso. Kimi Raikkonen qualified fifth ahead of Felipe Massa and Romain Grosjean.
Qualifying Report
It was overcast at the sparsely spectatored Yeongam circuit with an ambient temperature of 22C and the track at 28C.
Pastor Maldonado set the first sub-1:40 lap at 1:39.716 which was ramped up by Fernando Alonso with a 1:39.543 and then Felipe Massa did considerably better with a 1:39.074. Kimi Raikkonen moved it down to 1:38.887.
Drivers were running multiple laps on the harder of the two tyres (the Soft) and so Alonso edged his time down even though he didn't improve his place. Sebastian Vettel needed just three laps to set the definitive time of 1:38.208. Mark Webber slotted into P2 and then Jenson Button took P2 off him. Lewis Hamilton was faster than Alonso but not by much and was having issues getting his car stopped into Turn 1.
Narain Karthikyean had already ended his qualifying after a front brake disc failure pitched him into a spin in the braking zone for Turn 3, the HRT car out on the spot.
With four minutes left to run the danger positions were: 14.Hulkenberg, 15.Perez, 16.Vergne. 17.Kobayashi, 18.Kovalainen, 19.Petrov, 20.Senna.
The switch to the red-walled supersoft tyre was taken by all the mid-grid teams with Bruno Senna most vulnerable, already down amongst the new teams. However a set of supersofts immediately produced results as Maldonado jumped to P10, Senna to P13 and Kobayashi to P4.
With other cars improving the timesheet was rapidly turning over and seconds later the positions were: 14.Hamilton, 15.Alonso, 16.Senna, 17.Schumacher, 18.Vergne.
Ferrari were alive to the possibilities of Alonso going out and sent him back on track with a set of supersoft tyres. Hamilton stayed in the garage.
When Vergne put his Toro Rosso into P6 that pushed Michael Schumacher into P18, and when he grabbed P8 it made the positions: 16.Hamilton, 17.Alonso, 18.Senna. What's more Senna and Alonso were on laps that looked like improving their position yet Hamilton was sat looking at the timing screens.
Alonso took a scruffy P16 pushing Lewis to P17, but then after a good opening sector Bruno Senna had a 44.1 second middle sector (his best had been 43.6) and that was his Q1 over. The Williams team called him back into the pits, much to the relief of McLaren.
Out went: 18.Senna, 19.Petrov, 20.Kovalainen, 21.Pic, 22.Glock, 23.de la Rosa, 24.Karthikeyan (no time)
It was another poor result for Bruno Senna, although ultimately Pastor Maldonado would not finish that much further in front of him. Great outcomes for Petrov and Pic outqualifying their team-mates against the run of form this season. Overall the difference between P1 (Vettel) 1:38.2 and P17 (Hamilton) 1:39.1 was just 0.9 of a second.
Qualifying 2
There was no-one anxious to get clear track space at the beginning of Q2 and it took almost a minute before Sergio Perez came out to set the benchmark time of 1:38.981. Sauber team-mate Kamui Kobayashi reduced it to 1 1:38.504 before Fernando Alonso became the first man to break the 1:38 barrier with a 1:37.987.
Ferrari will have been encouraged to see that Sebastian Vettel couldn't beat that by very much - a 1:37.767 for Vettel put him top with Mark Webber slotting into P3 and then Lewis Hamilton displacing him in P3.
The McLarens had more brake locking issues than most and Jenson Button should have put in a faster first lap than he did on his opening tour but locked up. With four minutes of the session left to run the danger positions were: 6.Grosjean, 7.Schumacher, 8.Button, 9.Raikkonen, 10.Kobayashi, 11.DiResta, 12.Rosberg, 13.Perez, 14.Ricciardo, 15.Hulkenberg,16.Vergne, 17.Maldonado.
Everyone but Vettel went for another run on track, though not necessarily using a new set of tyres. With low wear on the smooth (underused) Yeongam circuit the supersofts could be used for more than one fast lap.
Nico Hulkenberg jumped up to P7, Maldonado could only improve to P13 and then the yellow flags came out for Daniel Ricciardo's Toro Rosso which he parked at the side of the track in the final sector (gearbox). Despite the yellow flags Perez improved to P10, Rosberg moved to P7, then Raikkonen to P5, pushing Button into P11 where he stayed.
As the session closed, out went: 11.Button, 12.Perez, 13.Kobayashi, 14.DiResta, 15.Maldonado, 16.Ricciardo, 17.Vergne.
Button was the big casualty, losing out by 0.005 to Michael Schumacher, unable to put in a fast final sector, while Paul diResta hit a lot of traffic and was slower on a new set of softs than he was on a scrubbed set.
Qualifying 3
Mercedes produced an almost pantomime start to the final qualifying session by going to the end of the pitlane (with the green light on) and just sitting there, letting their tyres go cold. First Rosberg, and then Schumacher parked their cars. In fact Michael was sat there for an age while all the other cars went round him.
Hamilton was keen to get on with his outlap and passed both a Red Bull and a Lotus in his anxiety to get the track position he wanted.
Across the line they came on their opening laps, Massa set the benchmark with a 1:38.010, followed by Alonso 1:37.667. Grosjean slotted into P3 and then Lewis Hamilton displaced him in P3.
Sebastian Vettel then produced the much-expected provisional pole lap of 1:37.316, while team-mate Mark Webber could only manage P3 behind Alonso.
The keen-to-park-up Mercedes cars had come into the pits without setting a lap time, but in the second round decided to go for it. In fact Michael Schumacher was launched into the pitlane right in front of Lewis Hamilton who adeptly swerved round him.
The Force India of Nico Hulkenberg wasn't saving tyres either and claimed P7. Next round was a blistering lap from Mark Webber who put his Red Bull on provisional pole. Lewis Hamilton did a lot better to cross the line in P3, Alonso stayed P4, Nico Rosberg outqualified team-mate Michael Schumacher by taking P8, but lost a place when Romain Grosjean came past him to grab P7.
All eyes turned expectantly to Sebastian Vettel who would no doubt reclaim P1 but a poor first sector ruined his chances and he came up short of his team-mate.
So it was a Red Bull front row but with some interesting neighbours on the grid - Alonso just in front of Raikkonen who punctured Alonso's rear tyre at the last start in Suzuka. Grosjean next to his team-mate and not far away from Rosberg (who got shunted out of the last race) and Schumacher who he's had the pleasure of colliding with in the past.
Given that the low-tyre wear surface could produce a grinder of a one-stop race for some teams, then track position on the opening lap will be key. And with a lot of dust on the used-once-a-year-track that might generate some mistakes on Lap 1 tomorrow. Vettel and Webber should be clear of it, but further back there could be a lot of 'fun'.
01. Mark Webber Red Bull-Renault 1m37.242
02. Sebastian Vettel Red Bull-Renault 1m37.316 + 0.074
03. Lewis Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes 1m37.469 + 0.227
04. Fernando Alonso Ferrari 1m37.534 + 0.292
05. Kimi Raikkonen Lotus-Renault 1m37.625 + 0.383
06. Felipe Massa Ferrari 1m37.884 + 0.642
07. Romain Grosjean Lotus-Renault 1m37.934 + 0.692
08. Nico Hulkenberg Force India-Mercedes 1m38.266 + 1.024
09. Nico Rosberg Mercedes 1m38.361 + 1.119
10. Michael Schumacher Mercedes 1m38.513 + 1.271
11. Jenson Button McLaren-Mercedes 1m38.441 + 0.674
12. Sergio Perez Sauber-Ferrari 1m38.460 + 0.693
13. Kamui Kobayashi Sauber-Ferrari 1m38.594 + 0.827
14. Paul di Resta Force India-Mercedes 1m38.643 + 0.876
15. Pastor Maldonado Williams-Renault 1m38.725 + 0.958
16. Daniel Ricciardo Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1m39.084 + 1.317
17. Jean-Eric Vergne Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1m39.340 + 1.573
18. Bruno Senna Williams-Renault 1m39.443 + 1.235
19. Vitaly Petrov Caterham-Renault 1m40.207 + 1.999
20. Heikki Kovalainen Caterham-Renault 1m40.333 + 2.125
21. Charles Pic Marussia-Cosworth 1m41.317 + 3.109
22. Timo Glock Marussia-Cosworth 1m41.371 + 3.163
23. Pedro de la Rosa HRT-Cosworth 1m42.881 + 4.673
24. Narain Karthikeyan HRT-Cosworth no time
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One of the most well loved fairy tale ballet of all time The Sleeping Beauty was first performed at the Mariinsky Theatre in St. Petersburg in 1890 to the music that was composed by Pyotr Ilyich Tchaikovsky.
Ballet West returned to the Auditorium to premiere The Sleeping Beauty, last Friday, October 4, 2013, a newly conceived and produced by Ballet West Artistic Director Adam Sklute, formerly of The Joffrey Ballet. With a live orchestra, the Chicago Sinfonietta, Ballet West at their 50 years anniversary delivered a perfect performance that would satisfied any ballet goer.
Adam Sklute's goal was to keep this fairy tale an exciting and relevant tail that will continued to attract the modern audience while maintaining the classical purity of the beloved story.
The Sleeping beauty has become one of the classical repertoire's most famous ballets of all time. it is a story of Princess Aurora who was welcomed into the world, but the King and Queen forgot to invite the evil wicked fairy Carabose to celebrations of Princess Aurora's birth. Carabose and her crew came to party anyway, but with evil intentions, to curse the Princess with a wicked spell, that on her 16th birthday she will prick her finger and die. Quick to save the Princess, the good Lilac Fairy casts another spell saying that she will only fall asleep after pricking her finger. The 16 birthday celebration of Princess Aurora arrived and she is doomed to an eternal sleep when she pricks her finger on a magical spindle. Lilac the good Fairy casts a spell on the entire family and court to fall asleep ensuring them of their safety.
100 years later, Prince Desire is led to Aurora by the enchanted fairies, and to the castle to rescue the beautiful Princess and put an end to the evil fairy Carabose. The prince find the castle and battle his way trough the evil fairy Carabose and her supporters. He breas the spell with a magical kiss that he gives Princess Aurora, demonstrating the triumph of good versus evil. With new characters, costumes and vision, Sklute's The Sleeping Beauty, takes audiences on an enchanting journey through time and fantasy.
The Sleeping Beauty is a sweet good performance. It is a collaboration of good dance, music and design that will forever continue to influence ballet, as well as fulfill the audience hearts with joy and happiness.
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Hello everyone,
Sorry if this has been covered before but I couldn't find the answer.
I'm currently looking to buy a tempering machine for my startup. I live in South Korea and have access to Selmi, Gami, FBM brand continuous tempering machines.
I need to change between white/dark/milk chocolates on a daily basis and prefer this process to be as conventient as possible. l'd also prefer to buy only 1 machine to save on costs. The COLOR EX model has caught my interest since its advertised with a removable screw for cleaning? I've contacted some other brands and they told me I'd have to clean the machine and flush it with cocoa butter to change from milk -> white, etc.
I'd like to know how easy it is to change chocolates with the COLOR EX model. How long does it take? is some chocolate wasted? What are the steps involved.
Any help would be appreciated, thank you :)
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Dear Matt,
Although I don't know the color ex (we have the selmi one system, the smallest). I definitely would buy a machine that can be opened and cleaned, and the Color Ex is such a system. We need to flush the machine and cocoa butter doesn't work because the pump doesn't pump pure butter, it is too liquid. So you'll loose the first 1-2 kg while changing chocolate. This is quite inefficient and I would wish we had bought the one with the removable srew. From the reseller I understood that it's quite simple to remove and clean it. For the rest the Selmi works excellent I must say, but perhaps others do as well.
Best regards,
Rodney Nikkels
Chocolatemakers, Amsterdam,
The Netherlands
I believe the FBM machines also have removable/reversible augurs to make them easy to clean.
Depending on your production volumes, FBM also has a small tabletop machine (the Aura) that is inexpensive enough to be dedicated to white chocolate production. It has a 4kg work bowl and 10kg/hr throughput and offers continuous as opposed to batch operation and has an integrated vibration table.
The next FBM machine up offers the same throughput as a Color EX, but is less expensive while offering the removable/reversible augur and three-zone temperature control instead of the two zones in a Selmi, offering more control over crystallization.
I can offer discounts on FBM machines to ChocolateLife members - maybe enough to make it possible for you to purchase both machines for close to the same price as one Selmi Color EX.
Clay, I notice the Prima FBM machine has an enrobing belt! A continuous tempering machine with a 7kg. work bowl with an enrobing belt! I didn't know that there was such a creature... Does it use 110V power or 220V? What is the price point of this machine?
The machine is set for 220VAC 3-phase 50 Hz. It is possible to kit the units at the factory a 220VAC 60 Hz single-phase motor or to use a static phase inverter that you purchase on your own. The price, ex-factory is 9700 Euros, including the enrobing belt, which is 180mm wide. Crating (100 Euros) and shipping (depends on destination and method) are extra.
Clay, I did a search before your response and noticed you mentioned price of the Prima in a thread last week:
"Another continuous tempering option is the FBM Prima. This has a 7kg tank and an hourly capacity in the 35kg range, but the price is 6,000 Euros ex-works Italy, before a ChocolateLife member discount."
Is the 6000 euro without the enrober? Does the 9700 euro include the dosing device? Actually, I don't quite understand the description of the dosing device on their site: "The machine is equipped with electronic dosing device with timer for hollow mould and regulation of dosing time." It would be used just with hollow moulds?
Clay, can you explain how these dosing / depositing devices work? I have always assumed that a dosing / depositing pump would have nozzles for filling mold cavities with a precise amount of chocolate ... Am I incorrect in this assumption?
Dear All,
I notice that Clay has become a reseller for certain machines. A pity because I thought that the creator of 'The Chocolate Life' (which is great) should not take any sides and should only advise correctly on machinery. We invite you to learn about the difference between FBM and Selmi. We invite you in our factory to come and have a look to our machinery that we make. You can also visit our website on www.selmi-group.it where we recently added some videos on other machinery that we make. OUr standard range has always been 4 types of tempering machinery and now we have the EX models. With these models you can was the archimedian screw completely because you can easily take it out. Also the other parts can be washed completely, so no chocolate stays in the system.
If you see a system of removable screw, please ask the seller to do a demonstration on this how easy it is. It is easy to make a removable screw, but with some other brands you need to be a technician to put it back.
I understand that sometimes people do not believe me, because I am the export responsable of the Selmi factory, but I ask them always before to buy, to test first all the features of the machinery very well.
The purchase of machinery in the chocolate business is very important and we are very well aware of this. We are making a lot of tempering machines yearly and we have in the US a great reseller that can give the service after sales locally and they also offer training sessions on the Selmi equipment.
I also want to make the people aware about the small machinery and the enrobing belt. How many chocolates you cover with an enrobing belt on a tempering machine of 7 or 8 kgs and another question is the space where the chocolates are covered and the time before they go on a belt is really short. where is the excess chocolate going in this short period. We think for this investment it's better to work by hand and safe money for a machine that helps you to earn money.
check it out and let me know if you have any further questions.
Tom Bauweraerts (firstname.lastname@example.com)
If you take a close look, you'll see that I actually refer THREE companies' temperers, melters - Selmi, Chocovision, and Bakon, and have commission relationships with all three (Selmi through Tomric in the US). I have referred the sale of a Plus in 2011 and have, when the situation arises, directly notified Tomric of technical questions about Selmi equipment they might want to answer.
I currently do not have a relationship with FBM, though we are working in that direction.
Each of these companies offers products at different price points and capabilities. You will see that I represent both Irinox and Desmon. Both offer similar products, but again, at different price points and capabilities.
I try to be as aware of the technical competitive differences as I can; if I make a mistake in how I represent something it is from imperfect knowledge, not a preference of one brand over another. I try to take into account, as best I can, what someone's needs are and make the best recommendation I can. I would be more than happy for Selmi to bring me to the factory in Italy to get up to the minute training on your products so that I can speak about them from a position of first-hand knowledge.
For nearly four years, now, I have chosen to keep TheChocolateLife virtually free from advertising. I do offer advertising, sponsorship, and referral programs that make sense for the community—it somehow has to be related to chocolate. That's how I earn the money to keep TheChocolateLife operating; paying for the direct, hard costs of keeping the site and community open, operating, alive, vibrant, and growing and not a whole lot more.
I am always open to comments about where my product and technical knowledge is imperfect. In this way I can grow - and the community can grow as well.
:: Clay
Dear Tom
I have been trying to contact selmi on the email on its website as well sent an email to your id few months ago but got no reply. I am looking to find if you have distributors in India ? my email id is email@example.com
Dear Devika,
Would it be possible to send me again the mail to firstname.lastname@example.com. We have sometimes the problem that mails get into our spam account frequently.
Sorry for the inconvenience caused.
Dear Tom I will send you an email by tomm. Thanks for the reply
Your comment is tantamount to my walking into your new center in Irvine and complaining, after you pull down flyers I have posted on your walls - loudly and to everyone who might be in your showroom at the time - that you won't let me sell competitive products in your place of business.
Furthermore, imagine my walking in and, when a prospective customer asks a question about a Pomati (or some other brand you sell) machine, I start talking up the virtues of a brand you don't sell.
What would your reaction be? I don't think you'd be very happy. You'd probably usher me out of your place of business and demand that I never come back. And, as the business owner, you would be within your rights to do so.
TheChocolateLife is my on-line place of business. It may be a small business in terms of the revenue it generates, but it's a huge business in terms of global reach and influence. My perception is that you want to unfairly take advantage of my place of business by not abiding by policies you and I have discussed offline.
Qzina is a multi-million dollar business and I have a policy on TheChocolateLife that businesses that are in the business of selling products and services to confectioners and chocolate makers have to pay to promote them. We discussed this last summer in Washington, DC when we met during the Fancy Food Show.
You are right, I did delete several posts where you promoted the Pomati tempering machines you are now representing. BUT - I did it BEFORE I had a relationship with FBM. I deleted the posts because the content was inappropriate in the context of the original poster's question. I believe that I wrote you an e-mail at the time, explaining why.
You will see that I am NOT "censoring" Mr Bauwerarts' responses because he is actually an employee of Selmi and is responding to questions about Selmi machines. The same is true for responses from Brian Donaghy, who used to be employed by Tomric, the US dealer for Selmi.
You will notice, if you care to look, that there have been several recent discussions about ChocoMa and Perfect tempering and enrobing machines. You will also notice that I have featured ALL of the Qzina Institute classes and events at your new school ... all the way forward to October. (I also do this for BAKON.)
What I object to, Richard, is your perception that I owe you anything. You are attempting to reach the members of my community to sell them products and services. It is my policy to ask companies like Qzina to pay me a very modest amount for granting access. I do this so I don't have to clutter up the site with advertising banners that are irrelevant and intrusive.
I have no objections if you respond to direct questions about Pomati machines. I have no objections if you supply answers to technical questions about other tempering machines and say how Pomati does things differently. In other words, I have no objections if what you post is relevant and adds value to the discussion at hand. I do object if you see your response primarily as an opportunity to sell - or cross-sell - something.
If you want to promote Pomati or any other brand(s) Qzina represents then I respectfully request that you comply with my commercial policies. You can promote any and all Qzina products - in the Classifieds. Classified ads cost $10 each or $100/year for up to 1 post per week. Or you can take out a Member Marketplace ad and/or Sponsor a group. You can also work with me to provide things of value to ChocolateLife members that compensate me via success fees. I would have no problem if you and I organized a series of classes in Irvine, we jointly promoted them, and I was compensated to give the classes. We talked about this specifically last summer, but I didn't pursue it because you wanted me to assume 100% of the costs and risk for promoting "my" events at your school (ignoring the fact that I would be promoting your school at the same time).
It's clear that you want to reach ChocolateLife members because you recognize that the community is a valuable one that's very highly focused and contains a large number of potential customers. What I want to be equally clear about is that I have worked very hard over the past four years growing TheChocolateLife to its current position and scope, and over the prior seven years on chocophile.com and on my writing and promoting my book, Discover Chocolate. Qzina is a business that you have worked very hard to grow. I know, from talking with you directly, that you are very careful not to let other people and companies "take advantage" of the hard work you've done without your being compensated appropriately.
All I ask is that you think of TheChocolateLife - and me - in the same light. I cannot, and will not, allow you to take advantage of TheChocolateLife to grow your business without directly recognizing - in monetary terms - the value of my business and my expertise, experience, and network, personally. And I object to your characterization of me publicly and without any notice as being a really cheap shot.
Membership in the community is free and voluntary. If you don't want to play by the house rules, you are free to not participate in the community.
:: Clay
PS. For your information, I do list the companies I have financial relationships with right on the home page of TheChocolateLife immediately under the Groups section at the top. It may not have been obvious enough, so I edited it to make it more obvious.
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2004: The Yankees score 1 in the 1st and five in the 2nd off Indian starter Cliff Lee en route to a 9-1 win. A-Rod homers and Gary Sheffield has 3 hits and 3 RBI to reach the 100 RBI mark. He matches the achievement of 19th century star Dan Brouthers, who drove in 100 RBIs for 5 different teams between 1887 and 1894. Sheffield also drove in 100 for the Padres, Marlins, Dodgers and Braves. Joining him today in passing the century mark is Victor Martinez, who hits a solo homer off Steve Karsay, who is making his first appearance since 2003.
2001: The Yankees defeat the Red Sox 1-0' as Mike Mussina comes within a strike of hurling a perfect game. Pinch hitter Carl Everett delivers a two-out' two-strike single in the 9th inning to ruin Mussina's gem. It is the 3rd time in his career that the righty has taken a perfect game into the 8th inning. The Yankees score the only run of the contest in the top of the 9th on Enrique Wilson's double. Opposing hurler David Cone' who takes the loss' is the most recent hurler to toss a perfecto. The Yankees sweep of the Red Sox was the first in baseball history by a team that did not score in the first 7 innings of any of the games.
1996: In his first game back in action since undergoing surgery for an aneurysm in his pitching shoulder in May' David Cone hurls 7 hitless innings in New York's 5-0 victory over the Athletics. Mariano Rivera gives up 1 hit in 2 innings as he finishes up for Cone. Cone's remarkable return relegates Kenny Rogers to the bullpen.
1987: Catcher Dave Bresnahan of the Albany-Colonie Yankees ( AA Eastern League) introduces a new wrinkle to baseball's panoply of deception – the hidden potato trick. With Reading Phillies runner Rick Rudblad on third, Bresnahan returns from a time out with a peeled potato pared down to the size of a baseball hidden in his mitt. On the next pitch he throws the sphere wildly on an apparent pickoff attempt. When the runner trots home' Bresnahan tags him out with the real ball. The umpire' unamused' rules the runner safe' charges the backstop with an error, and fines him $50. After the game, Bresnahan says, "I thought it would be a do-over."
1978: Reggie Jackson becomes the 19th Major League player to hit at least 20 homers in 11 straight years in the Yankees' 6-2 win over Seattle.
1969: Ralph Houk signs a new 3-year contract with the Yankees at $65'000 a season' the highest managerial salary in either league' and Joe Pepitone is reinstated.
1967: Washington's Bob Priddy loses his 1-0 lead to the Yankees when Mickey Mantle swats a 2-run pinch homer in the 8th and New York win' 2-1. Mel Stottlemyre is the victor' allowing 6 hits and no walks. For Mantle' it is his 14th game-winning hit of the year' 8 of them home runs.
1965: Mickey Mantle hits a 1st inning homer with 2 on as New York score 5 runs on their way to an 8-1 romp over the Angels. Whitey Ford is the winner.
1961: In action against Detroit's Frank Lary, Roger Maris doubles and takes third on a misplay. Mickey Mantle' in pain from a pulled muscle in his forearm' lays down a perfect drag bunt to score the other 'M-boy.' Maris then blasts homers on his next two trips to the plate' and Elston Howard adds a 3-run dinger for a 7-2 win.
1960: Milt Pappas stops New York on 3 hits – 2 by Tony Kubek – to give Baltimore a 5-0 lead in the first of a 3-game showdown. The Orioles now trail the Yankees by .003 in the standings.
1958: At the Stadium' the Yanks snap a scoreless tie with Boston when Yogi Berra and Mickey Mantle launch back-to-back 6th inning homers off Dave Sisler. Mantle has hit three this year off the Beantown righty. New York win' 6-1. Mantle' with 38 homers' leads the AL. Mantle and Berra will hit back-to-back homers 12 times together' and homer in the same game 50 times before their partnership is through.
1955: Whitey Ford and Mickey Mantle celebrate Billy Martin's return from the army; Ford throws 6 innings of no-hit ball against Washington before Carlos Paula spoils it in the 7th with Washington's only hit. The Yanks win 4-2 as the Mick hits his 36th HR' a 3-run shot off Bob Porterfield. Mantle is 10 HRs ahead of rivals Al Kaline and Ted Williams. New York stay a half game behind the White Sox' winners over the third-place Indians. Martin will hit .300 in September' and New York will go on a 17-6 tear to win the pennant by 3 games.
1954: Before 39'494 at the Stadium, the Yankees snap Bob Lemon's 11-game win streak to beat the Indians 3-2 in the rubber game of theseries and move to within 3 1/2 games lof first place. Mickey Mantle's gargantuan blast into the upper deck in right field in the 1st starts the Bombers' scoring. Whitey Ford picks up his 16th win.
1952: Yankee hurlers Tom Gorman (below) and Ewell Blackwell blank the Red Sox, 5-0 and 4-0 respectively, in a doubleheader in the Bronx.
1933: Marv Throneberry, who made his debut with the Yankees, and earned a World Series ring in 1958, before going on to greater fame (or infamy, depending on one's point of view) with the '62 Mets, is born.
1932: The Yankees keep their scoring streak alive by scoring in the bottom of the 9th to beat the Senators 1-0. Lou Gehrig triples off Fred 'Firpo' Marberry to score Babe Ruth.
1928: The Senators top the Yankees' 2-0' as Firpo Marberry (below) does it all' shutting down the Yanks and driving in both Nat runs. The New York lead over the A's is down to 1 1/2 games, from 12 games at the end of July.
1927: For the second time this year' Babe Ruth and Lou Gehrig blast back-to back homers in the 1st inning off the A's Rube Walberg, as the Yanks roll 12-2. The duo have connected in the same inning 5 times this year. Gehrig adds another in the 2nd off Rube for his 43rd of the year to leave him one behind the Babe. Trade rumors fill the New York papers – speculation has Gehrig going to Detroit or Bob Meusel heading for Chicago in exchange for Willie Kamm and Bibb Falk. None of the players will change addresses.
1922: In a doubleheader at Shibe Park, Carl Mays wins his AL record 23rd straight game over the Athletics' although he fails to go the distance against the Mackmen for the first time in the streak. He leaves with one out in the 6th and the Yankees winning 7-2. New York prevail 11-6' in game 1' but the A's win the nitecap' 4-0' behind Bob Hasty.
1912: In a rain-spattered doubleheader at the Polo Grounds' Red Sox ace Smokey Joe Wood tops the Highlanders in the nitecap 1-0 for his 30th win and his 13th straight victory. It is Wood's 8th shutout and 2nd in a row. Boston take the opening squeaker 2-1 to finish the year in New York with 10 wins in 10
tries. With 3 wins last year' and 5 wins in their first 5 road games with New York in 1913' Boston will set the since-tied ML record for most consecutive wins on the road against one team (18).
1908: Monte Pearson, a major contributor to the fortunes of the Yankee pitching staffs of the late '30s championship teams, and the first man to throw a no-hitter at Yankee Stadium, is born.


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My dog has allergies to wheat and is also a chicken lover. Add in apple pie, and you had me at "oven baked." I break these treats up to stuff in his Kong and it serves as a great nighttime treat and reward for my dog. Thanks for this great product and I plan to purchase it again.
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By Kedlund
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Had to break treats in half for my 3 chihuahuas. Other than that they really enjoyed the treats
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I'm not sure about this treat yet. Because it's healthy, both dogs wait...hoping for some junk food. Eventually, the puppy eats and the older dog follows. Apparently it tastes good but they don't wolf it down quickly...which is actually a good thing.
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smell like apple pie, easy to break for small dogs
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Knowing this is a safe, USA made product is great! Nice this is just the right size for my dog without breaking it in half. My dog loves this biscuit. She gets it after coming in from her walks.
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I try to feed my dogs the best I can find, be it daily food or treats. These fit the bill, and they smell fabulous. Makes me want to eat them myself.
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These treats smell so good I almost want to try one myself. The dogs love them and I know they are good for them. The biscuits are small but they are hard and crunchy and the dogs really need to chomp on them so they are good at cleaning teeth. Many dog biscuits are somewhat crumbly so they can get stuck in the teeth and cause tartar build up. These are much harder and don't crumble easily. My dogs love them.
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Our Yorkie enjoys these treats. She doesn't scarf them down like she does the chicken strips, but enjoys playing with them first and then lays down to chew them up. For some reason, she has me break them into pieces before she eats them. Could be they are hard to break up initially. I know I have a harder time then with other treats.But all in all, she enjoys getting these and looks forward to her "reward" after her bath.
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Smells delicious!
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My dog goes ga-ga over these treats, and I feel good giving them to him as a special reward. They are grain-free and preservative-free and to me, it smells like a yummy piece of apple pie!
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These treats smell yummy. I give them to my dogs as a treat and a reward. I like that they are made with meat and apples, not artificial flavors.
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It's Cole...and thanks.
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My new fake
Hey you guys can we have some new fakes of them both together cause their just not exciting if they don't have both of them :P
Dylan blowing Sterling Knight...
Twinkies...it's what's on the inside that counts!
^^^ he looks like sucking cock makes him turn green with nausea
Ok, a few more, last with these head shots probably cuz they're getting boring...but anyway here they are. Dylan one looks a little funny to me, but oh well.
coleds - Awesome fakes. I agree with eyemocean, the Sprouses can never get boring.
eyemocean - indy mentioned some of his were pulled due to not having the original headshots posted as thumbnails. The mods are being rightfully very strict in terms of the Sprouses because they just turned 18 (August), and they still look so young. In their case, a verifiable post-18 headshot must accompany any fake.
Twinkies...it's what's on the inside that counts!
Cole fucked...
Twinkies...it's what's on the inside that counts!
Cole and Dylan Sprouse
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This is just creepy
I can't believe I did it, but I read about these dudes. Apparently they have the number one show on the Disney Channel:"The Suite Life: On Deck", or something like that. Their first show, "The Suite Life: Zack and Cody", started in 2005, then around '07/'08 it became the "On Deck" show. Number ONE??? Even in reruns. What really made me cry though was that "Jonas L.A." was cancelled!!! NOW where am I supposed to get my Joe-fill???
"Everyone wants to be adored."
The twins as muscleboys? Oh all right, I admit it, that's strangely hot!
Good efforts, everyone, but why so few action shots? I've found them elsewhere, but JUBers seem very reluctant.
Twinkies...it's what's on the inside that counts!
Hey dan where have you seen some action shots Id love to see some more
If you do manage to overcome your willies, I'm sure you'd do action pics very well. Come on, the twins are super-cute, aren't they?
Cody Linley fucks Cole...
Twinkies...it's what's on the inside that counts!
IluvJ, as a fan of both Cody and Cole, allow me to say that's really hot! Love it.
i dont even know what time it is.... man im drunk i went to a bar today and tried to hit on this guy cuz he is so fuccin hawt,,,
they're ok....would take the carver twins any day though (DH twins)
nobody asked me what i wanted for christmas
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Indybj, that is an amazing fake. It looks like it could really be them in a few years or something.
Meh. They're way too twinky for my taste... they look like they're 13! Maybe when they get a little bit more mature, they'll be better. Like Zac Efron! I never liked him, but lately he's been growing into his looks as an adult.
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Does anyone have screencaps of suite life on deck when cole takes off his robe showing his chest and gets into a hot tub still showing chest? So sexy!
Yea, they really don't look "of age". But hey, neither does Nathan Kress....a lot of Disney and Nickelodeon stars look that way....probably so they can play the same age character without having to age them in the show... Meh, to each his own.
happy new years boys, i love you all
Happy New Year to all of my friends here on JUB. This has been quite a year for me. I went from some of the saddest fakes on here to some pretty decent ones. Special thanks to Deb, Fabrizio, Webber, Gata and all the others who have encouraged me and helped me to improve my skills.
Also thanks to all the people who have taken the time to let me know when they have enjoyed a fake that I have made.
I hope to continue my manips in the new year, so if you guys find any new high resolution pictures of the Sprouse brothers, let me know.
indy - your fakes look great -
But I bet the Sprouse brothers WISH they were as endowed as you make them!
New Got Milk ad
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OK, so basically the behind-the-scenes pics from the new milk ad SUCK. I prefer Cole smiling, not far away, and without fake white stuff on his upper lip. Real white stuff, however, is encouraged and applauded. I could only find one decent pic, and it will probably work better on a solo.
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What Our Customers Are Saying about Our 100% Pure Vermont Maple Syrup - Grade B Pint …
"About 1994 or so we drove from our Connecticut home up to Vermont to get some REAL maple syrup at a family-run maple farm. The owners were so friendly and invited us for coffee, which our hostess said would be really good with some syrup in it. It was and still is. We like Grade B because it is so flavorful. It's our favorite, and you can't order it elsewhere that I know of. Of course, we drove up to Vermont Country Store a few times during our 13 years in Connecticut and are so glad we can order from you!" - Nita, Deer Park, WA
"After reading the description, I bought a small jar of the Grade B when re-ordering the Grade A syrup. We used up all the Grade A when company was here, which I didn't realize until I made pancakes one day. The label on the Grade B said great for cooking, but I fell in love with the more intense carmelly flavor! This is what I want on my hearty whole-spelt pancakes from now on! Grade A is wonderful, with the maple flavor coming through unmasked by the heavier overtones, so I don't intend to do without it, either!" - Kathleen, Paris, TX
"I used to work on my father's farm. We sugared every spring. I used to gather it in buckets. There was no pipe line then. We did it all by hand. It was hard work but fun. We put it in jars and drank it right off the tank. Can't get any fresher than that." - Lois Welch, Wells River, VT