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yea, we got the short end of the stick... take it like a warrior.
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....Or don't take IV. I will be looking at Victory Rush damage with the buff to War Academy, but I suspect that it will still not be a staple talent.
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Victory Rush should hit moderately hard with War Academy due to its AP scaling. Its main problem is (lack of) SnB synergy.
I dont see what you will accomplish by discrediting a self healing ability. threat is almost non existent right now, and thats with 2% hit and 9 expertise. Im not saying YOU MUST TAKE DIS RWAR! But likewise im sure someone could discredit many of the abilitys available right now if they went out of their way to do so. However I run with 2 prot specs, i dont run as dps at all. In that sence i sapose i have more options and the 2 talent points dont effect me as much as they might someone else.
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If it was a trained passive, there would be no need. However, it is a talent that competes with other talents.
It is a talent with a lot of weaknesses and negligible gain. It could easily be improved with some minor changes, but those changes have yet to happen.
I like Revenge as it is. For what it's worth they might just as well make it equal to Devastate in terms of damage. It is a low rage high damage ability and hits two targets.
The idea behind IV is nice. But there shouldn't be any downsides. Especially no SnB is a problem. I like the idea of an Execute like ability for tanks. But it should also proc SnB.
Has anybody tested if you get IV from heroic lvl 72 BC dungeon bosses? Grey trash? I see no reason why you shouldn't but never tested it myself.
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I prefer regular VR for anything that isn't a raid, and even in a raid regular ol' VR is amazing. Whelps on Halfus? Hello full health bar. Trash? Though difficult, it's still possible to proc a VR off of them and help out the healers. I much prefer the bigger heal to the smaller one, and with the other healing/passive healing increase talents we get I see no need for these talent points.
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The extra 20% crit is roughly 15-20% extra damage, and can get higher if you have Deep Wounds.
As I mentioned, 15.5% extra damage is most likely not enough to compete with the 20% crit, but I cannot possibly see anyone get 85% extra damage out of 20% crit
And while dumping the talent means you can lose Revenge from your rotation, taking the talent still means you do more TPS/DPS (and possibly Cleave some damage, which may or may not be a good thing). The only question then becomes: Are there any talents more valuable than this one? Valuable can mean either doing more damage/threat or more survivability.
I agree on Revenge needing some loving, as usual Blizzard seems to forget the whole Rev vs Dev scaling issue.
The talent should not have to be more than 20% on top of the Cleave to be valuable.
On IV: It's an expensive small heal. It takes an average of 3 GCDs (2 Devastate & VR), costs a loss in threat, is random and very restricted (<20% only) and worst of all... it's worth about as much as an efficient heal from a healer.
If you compare it to Blood Craze, it will on average do about twice as much healing over a single-target fight... if you use nothing but Devastate & VR at the last 20%
Because most bosses that aren't tactic/execution based have an Enrage mechanic at low HP, 2/3 Blood Craze will actually come out way closer to IV, not only because that last phase is much shorter, but also because you need to burn that boss down fast and VR damage will not help you there! The only bosses I would personally consider IV for is Elemental Council in BoT and MAYBE Al'akir for if you have the lightning rod. And even then I would not even consider it untill I had to do it on heroic.
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However, I think it's close enough after the patch that if you have 33+ points in Protection, have Improved Revenge, and don't have Deep Wounds/Cruelty that swapping Improved Revenge for 2 points in Deep Wounds/Cruelty and dropping Revenge is a net DPS increase. (Again, I'll double-check these numbers later tonight when I'm at home.)
This would, at the very least, slightly increase the viability of Impending Victory due to more proc opportunities. Of course, you lose the Cleave which can be either good or bad depending on the fight.
i guess what i was getting at was... it appears that after this patch, revenge ( thought i hate hate hate to say this, and think its as much as a mistake on blizzards part as anyone else here) shows no major advantage over dev.. if we are back to a dev spam in terms of a max tps rotation, it just seems to make a lot of sence to replace rev with VR in our -20% single target rotation. i understand the down side, but in theory, by the time a boss is at 20%, the tanks should be miles ahead on threat anyway. likewise, it seems practical that healers will be running on near empty and the situational advantage appears to be worth the 2 points ( NOTE- i say again, i run with 2 prot specs. so it may feel a lot less painfull to me then someone who pvps or off specs dps). atm, i plan having a max surv. spec, and a max dps/tps spec once the patch hits. Ill have to see the differences once the patch is actually live, but if they are even close in terms of dps/tps i will be inclined to drop a max dps/tps spec for a utility spec. Atm, threat really isnt a major conern to me. we will see what happens with the patch.
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Just checked on the numbers I had on my spreadsheet:
~16k AP, 14% crit, 3.33% hit, 21 expertise, 462 DPS 2.6s weapon, 309 haste (don't ask me why I got that in there!!)
HS on CD, 11 SS per minute (every 5.45s) with 4 of them in HR
Other 29 GCDs: Revenge ever 6s if improved, if not just Dev spam
With War Academy & Cruelty, you gain ~244 DPS (810 TPS)
If you add 2 Shockwaves & 3 Thunderclaps instead of Devastates, you get ... a 215 DPS loss.
Note that I excluded BnT gain from this, the 3 Thunderclaps would grant far more Devastate than in the first Dev-spam example.
In other words, Imp. Revenge is not useful as long as you can 3-button-spam tank like a braindead scrub. For any other situation, it still seems useful enough to keep, although the difference in DPS (<3%) is small enough to consider Deep Wounds for an alternative style on talents (e.g. add tanking)
PS: VR is a <5% gain over Devastate at 2/3 DW, and is even then a near guaranteed DPS loss due to SnB procs. Feel free to chose it if you REALLY think that <10k heal every time RNGesus feels like you earned it is going to save your life, but as a healer myself, I can guarantee you that no wipe I have done so far would've been any different if the tank could heal himself for this every 5s or so.
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Yeah, after re-running the numbers with some adjustments to match the numbers you're using I got similar results. Improved Revenge is not a straight-out loss to Devastate, but it is still non-optimal compared to Deep Wounds/Cruelty if you are avoiding getting them for the sake of Improved Revenge.
With my character example, I was gaining slightly over 300 DPS from swapping 2 points from Improved Revenge to Deep Wounds and dropping Revenge from the rotation.
So, not as dire as my initial numbers indicated but still not great. Revenge is still too weak baseline to be particularly useful.
yea i was planning on specing DW. marginal differences between rev and dev just leaves rev all that less attractive no matter how you look at it. unless you just want to keep rev for no good reason at all ...
but then theres splash damage.. which on some fights is appealing.
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As for the better to do dps than to have extra survival skills arguement so many are presenting, I suppose I'm expecting a less than ideal situation. If I could prove/understand that my personal dps will reduce the damage I take because of a shorter fight I'd take in comparison to the extra survivability I would have with this talent, that might be convincing.
Assuming devestate spam to proc IV:
40 Devastates per minute @ 1.5sec GCD
25% = 10 heals per minute
150k hp @ 5% + 40% for Field dressing = 10.5k heals
so 10 heals @ 10.5k = 105000 over the course of a minute so something like 1750hps
In a minute you can heal yourself for 70% of your total health. That doesn't seem like much to me when you probably take that much damage in just a few seconds from a raid boss.
Yeah, that's a pretty easy thing to calculate in an abstract sense.
Take Omnitron 25N, say your raid DPS is on the higher end of 350k, which is about a 4:50 fight.
That means 50-58 seconds of time when Impending Victory can proc, which would yield a maximum average of around 13 Victory Rush heals. (2 GCDs to proc, 1 GCD to use = 3 GCDs, or 4.5s per heal.) With around 170k health this would give you just under 155k healing over the course of the fight.
Say 6 healers with an average HPS of 11k or something, which means you are saving the healing team just over 2 seconds of combined healing over the course of the fight.
To save them 2 seconds worth of mana through DPS, you would need to contribute at maximum an additional 2.4k DPS or so.
There are a few ways this can be balanced for:
a) Swapping 2 points in Impending Victory for other DPS talents
b) Using a higher DPS rotation than Devastate spam sub-20%
Let's look at a) first, as that would reduce your global DPS over the entire fight. Most heavy TPS (e.g. Deep Wounds/Cruelty) talents are worth around 300-350 DPS per point, which at worst would reduce your deficit to 1.8k.
As you would only be changing your rotation over the final 20%, this means you would need to gain 9k DPS in the final 20% from a rotational change to come out ahead.
This obviously isn't going to happen, as you probably only lose between 2.2-2.4k DPS from swapping to Devastate spam.
However, let's look at where we are after all this... We have basically reduced the DPS deficit to about half of the total target (1.34k vs. the total target of 2.4k), meaning that for all the annoyance, potential threat-capping, and RNG of Impending Victory you have saved your healing team roughly 1 second worth of mana over a nearly 5 minute period of time.
This is also using somewhat best-case average numbers for Impending Victory and not factoring in things such as:
a) Potential DPS increases from splash damage (e.g. Deep Wounds would give a much greater benefit on Omnotron due to Revenge and Cleave splash)
b) Cooldown usage/timing
c) Overheal percentages for the Impending Victory heal itself
While my numbers are obviously not universally applicable (and also totally different for 10-man) I think it should be a decent enough illustration that the power of this talent is pretty limited unless there is a very specific fight mechanic that supports its use.
As Impending Victory procs themselves are not nearly enough to support a Warrior surviving on their own for any notable period of time, the 'averages' are really the only thing that matters all that much. Unlike other self-healing abilities which are quite large in size, Impending Victory lacks any 'burst' healing factor to give it a stronger sense of utility--especially as it is anything but on-demand.
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[QUOTE=Demoneyes82;486655]Mathamatically that should be easy to show:
Assuming devestate spam to proc IV:
40 Devastates per minute @ 1.5sec GCD
25% = 10 heals per minute
150k hp @ 5% + 40% for Field dressing = 10.5k heals
so 10 heals @ 10.5k = 105000 over the course of a minute so something like 1750hps
A slight improvement on the math to include
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From what I understand the math to calculate for how much you would be healed using Victory Rush from a proc would be:
0,05*1,06*1,2*1,5=0,0954 :Unquote
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Considering a tank at 150k hp, which is pretty low with full raid buffs, even with my gear (all heroics and epic faction/blacksmith gear), so let us instead consider 180k hp tank
13 successful IV hits for 17k each comes out to be 223k total or 3720 healing per second over the last minute of fighting (assuming that the last 20% of a boss fight is in fact one minute.
Healing per second in raids can be misleading, considering all the group heals figure into it. Suppos then that a 12k per second healing from one healer on a single target, and this then becomes a little less than 1/3 of a whole healer for the tank themselves.
I'm not trying to replace entirely the heals needed on a tank, but softening the blow is what tanks do, and increasing the dps on a tank to shorten the fight is not what I'd expect to be a priority.
As an aside, and often neglected by several of the above readers, regular victory rush which is always available, with all talents and glyphs associated is still available and heals a 180k tank for 57.2 k per kill


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The combatants:
Martyn Hill (plate and mail, longsword, large shield)
Agility 3 (Quickness 1B), Athletics 4, Awareness 3, Endurance 3, Fighting 4 (Long Blade 2B, Shield 1B)
Dagmar Pyke (ring mail, battle axe, dirk)
Agility 3, Athletics 4, Awareness 3, Endurance 4, Fighting 4 (Axes 2B)
Ser Kevan Rivers (full plate, bastard sword)
Agility 3, Athletics 4, Awareness 3, Endurance 4, Fighting 4 (Long Blade 2B)
Oberon Sand (soft leather, Braavosi blade, dagger)
Agility 4 (Quickness 1B), Athletics 3, Awareness 3, Endurance 3, Fighting 4 (Fencing 3B)
Rikard Snow (mail, warhammer)
Agility 3, Athletics 4 (Strength 2B), Awareness 2, Endurance 5, Fighting 3 (Bludgeon 1B, Brawling 1B)
Jonah Stone (hard leather, longsword, buckler)
Agility 4, Athletics 4, Awareness 3, Endurance 4, Fighting 3 (Brawling 1B, Long Blades 1B)
Quite the group of bastards.
One thing I should not in advance -- I forgot to apply the armor penalty to the Agility tests for Initiative. I don't think it would have made a huge difference, but I suppose it might have. Also, nobody used any Destiny points.
To warm up, everyone fought a pair of mook-types (all relevant abilities at 3, equipped with soft leather and spear). Snow was the only person to even take damage from the spearmen, and that was only one point. Hill and Rivers were, in fact, impossible for them to injure using standard attacks. It was universally found that the Divided Attack option was not nearly as effective as attacking each mook in turn.
On to the main event. The first duel was between Sand and Pyke, and it wasn't pretty. Against an inferior opponent, Sand's skill might have saved him, but Pyke was skilled enough to hit, strong enough to inflict major damage when he did hit, and had a good enough combination of mobility and armor to avoid taking major damage. Lessons learned: if you are going to be the lightly armored type, you better be sure your Fighting is much higher than your opponent's.
Next up was Hill vs. Stone. Hill, with his large shield an heavy-ish armor, was tied for the second highest combat defense and had the second highest armor rating of all the characters, plus he had enough skill to make relatively short work of his more lightly armored foe. Lessons learned: Being faster and hardier isn't as important as having more experience with your weapon. And better armor.
Then we had Rivers vs. Snow in a toe-totoe slugfest. Snow got in several good shots that sent bits of armor flying (the warhammer's sunder ability is a bit scary). In the end though, he wasn't able to wear down Rivers' defenses before falling victim to his own low combat defense and lighter armor. Lessons learned: Being bigger and stronger isn't a good substitute for skill (and heavy armor), either.
With three combatants now eliminated, the next fight featured Hill against Rivers. The two fighters with the heaviest armor went back and forth for quite some time without any decisive advantage. Rivers scored a couple of minor hits early, but eventually the defensive advantage provided by Hill's shield proved ot be the difference maker. This was a tight one that really could have gone either way, though. Lessons learned: Shields good.
Hill advanced on to face Pyke in the finals. Just to be a prick, though, I ruled that the Injury and Wound Hill had suffered in his previous fight were going to carried over. Pyke, ended up winning, but it was closer than we expected. Pyke was down in Health and close to having to take a wound when he finally forced Hill to take a second wound, at which point his player threw in the towel. Lessons learned: Shields and heavy armor good, but they can only do so much against a raving berserker when you are already injured.
Overall, I think my group got a good feel for the combat system even though they only used the most basic options. It is certainly adequate, quick and satisfyingly bloody, but I don't think you are going to want to have many sessions that are really combat-heavy. It's just a bit too repetitive for that to be interesting for too long.
To answer some concerns that have been raised in other threads, it really does seem like the characters with the heavier armor had a significant advantage. The only duel where the more lightly-armored fighter won was the very last one, and in that one his opponent came in already wounded. If he hadn't been wounded, even with his relatively low Endurance score, I think the combination of heavy armor an dshield would have carried him through.


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- Family members with MDS
- Age: 60 or older
- Sex: male
Certain genetic syndromes:
- Down dyndrome
- Fanconi anemia
- Shwachman-Diamond syndrome
- Congenital neutropenia
- Familial platelet disorders
- Exposure to large amounts of radiation
- Exposure to certain chemicals, such as benzene
- Exposure to pesticides
- Radiation therapy and/or chemotherapy treatment for cancer
- Smoking
- Typically, there are no symptoms in the early stages of MDS. Later stage symptoms may vary from person to person, depending on how serious the disease is. Later stage symptoms may include:
Signs of anemia due to underproduction or red blood cells include:
- Fatigue
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- Pale skin
- Feeling weak and tired
- Congestive heart failure (in severe cases)
Neutropenia occurs when there are inadequate levels of white blood cells. White blood cells fight infection. Signs of this condition include:
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Thrombocytopenia occurs when there are inadequate levels of platelets in the blood. Platelets stop bleeding by clotting the blood. Signs of thrombocytopenia include:
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- Bruising easily
- Other symptoms may include loss of appetite, weight loss, and feeling tired.
- Blood test to check your red and white blood cell counts and platelet counts and to check how the blood cells look.
- Bone marrow biopsy to check for MDS. A bone marrow biopsy is the removal of a sample of bone marrow for testing.
- Your doctor may also order other tests to rule out other conditions.
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Growth Factors
- Erythropoietin (EPO) is a growth factor that helps the bone marrow produce red blood cells.
- Granulocyte colony-stimulating factors (G-CSF) and granulocyte macrophage colony-stimulating factors (GM-CSF) are growth factors that help the bone marrow produce white blood cells. Pegfilgrastim (Neulasta) is a form of G-CSF that is longer acting.
- Oprelvekin (Neumega, interleukin-11, or IL-11) is a drug that helps the body produce platelets.
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- Avoid exposure to hazardous chemicals such as benzene
- Don't smoke or if you do smoke, quit
Reduce your risk for developing cancer:
- Eat a balanced, healthful diet.
- Stay active.
- Maintain a healthy weight.
- Avoid environmental and occupational risks.
American Cancer Society http://www.cancer.org
Leukemia and Lymphoma Society http://www.leukemia-lymphoma.org
Myelodysplastic Syndromes Foundation http://www.mds-foundation.org
Aplastic Anemia and Myelodysplasia Association of Canada http://www.aamac.ca
Neutropenia Support Association http://www.neutropenia.ca
Ableoff M, ed. Clinical Oncology. 4th ed. Philadelphia, PA: Elsevier; 2005.
Ableoff M, ed. Clinical Oncology. 3rd ed. Philadelphia, PA: Elsevier; 2004.
Cancer Prevention page. American Cancer Society website. Available at: http://www.cancer.org/docroot/PED/ped%5F1.asp?sitearea=PED. Accessed September 28, 2005.
Detailed guide: myelodysplastic syndrome. American Cancer Society website. Available at: http://www.cancer.org/docroot/CRI/CRI%5F2%5F3x.asp?dt=65. Accessed April 2, 2009.
Frequently asked questions about MDS page. The Myelodysplastic Syndromes Foundation website. Available at: http://www.mds-foundation.org/pdf/CEL411%20Factsht%20v8.pdf. Accessed September 14, 2005.
Goldman L, ed. Cecil Textbook of Medicine. 22nd ed. Philadelphia, PA: W.B. Saunders Company; 2004.
Hoffman R, Benz E, Shattil S, et al, eds. Hematology: Basic Principles and Practice. 4th ed. Philadelphia, PA: Elsevier; 2005.
Myelodysplastic syndrome. Dynamed website. Available at: http://www.dynamicmedical.com/dynamed.nsf?opendatabase. Accessed September 13, 2005.
Myelodysplastic syndromes: a review for patients, families, friends, and healthcare professionals. Patient information page. The Myelodysplastic Syndromes Foundation website. Available at: http://www.mds-foundation.org/patientinfo.htm. Accessed September 14, 2005.
Myelodysplastic syndromes facts & statistics page. Leukemia and Lymphoma Society website. Available at: http://www.leukemia-lymphoma.org/all%5Fpage?item%5Fid=55445. Accessed September 22, 2005.
Myelodysplastic syndromes page. National Marrow Donor Program website. Available at: http://www.marrow.org/PATIENT/myelodysplastic%5Fsyndromes.html. Accessed September 22, 2005.
Myelodysplastic syndromes: treatment page. National Cancer Institute website. Available at: http://www.cancer.gov/cancertopics/pdq/treatment/myelodysplastic. Accessed: September 22, 2005.
Overview: myelodysplastic syndrome page. American Cancer Society website. Available at: http://www.cancer.org/docroot/CRI/content/CRI%5F2%5F2%5F1x%5FWhat%5FAre%5FMyelodysplastic%5FSyndromes%5F65.asp?rnav=cri. Accessed September 22, 2005.
Understanding myelodysplastic syndromes: a patient handbook. Patient information page. The Myelodysplastic Syndromes Foundation website. Available at: http://www.mds-foundation.org/patientinfo.htm. Accessed September 14, 2005.
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Oct 31, 2007

I have a tracker component lying around but right now it's not generic enough to fit in the Zend Framework. The tracker could maybe be added to this component at a later time as Zend_Bittorrent_Tracker...

Oct 31, 2007

I'm not that familiarly with Bittorrent development, so I really want to know what is the deal with this class.

This is not a critic! <ac:emoticon ac:name="smile" />

Thank you

Oct 31, 2007

The most common usage would be to decode torrent files to get information about the files that are included in the torrent. All sites that offer .torrent files most likely use some sort of library to fetch this info from the torrent files, and I thought it would be nice to have this in the framework.

As I wrote in the first comment here I have a bittorrent tracker written in PHP that can be added later that would make the component more complete.

Nov 02, 2007

Apart from being able to read from files, I also would like to see either a separate function (akin to simplexml_load_string and simplexml_load_file) to load the torrent file data from a string. I have seen many implementations that always assume one wants a file and never give this option.

Nov 02, 2007

What do you mean? That one wants to give the decode method the content of the torrent file instead of the path to the file?

If that is what you mean you can just do a Zend_Bittorrent::decode(file_get_contents('/path/to/file)); since torrent files are just an encoded associative array.

Nov 02, 2007

My apologies, I was still a bit tired after getting up and reading up on some buffer of notifications. I'm personally looking forward for this class finalized and included in the framework.

Nov 05, 2007

I just updated the proposal with information about the Zend_Bittorrent_Torrent class that can be used to generate .torrent files.

Dec 01, 2007

I have added the code to the laboratory at http://framework.zend.com/svn/laboratory/library/Zend/. Feel free to play around with it. <ac:emoticon ac:name="smile" />

Dec 06, 2007

Hi Christer,

Looks interesting. Note that it would be Zend_BitTorrent, with a capital T.

You might also try to split up the Zend_BitTorrent_Torrent::buildFromPath() method into a couple other methods, because it's pretty long at the moment.

Dec 06, 2007

Thats my bad. I'll fix the capitalization tomorrow.

I'll be leaving for a week's vacation on saturday, so I'll get to the buildFromPath method as soon as I get back.

Dec 07, 2007

This looks like a promising component, and I'd very much like to see it in Zend Framework. Following are the results from my initial review for consideration:

The prolific use of static methods irks me a bit, as we might be better served by having instance methods, but perhaps it can be shown that static methods will not be a problem.

How might the component support caching?

How to support instances having different behaviors (e.g., caching, logging)?

What about extending the classes for custom behavior? (e.g., Zend_BitTorrent_Encoder::encodeList() uses self)

I would recommend different placement of the require_once statements for lazy-loading classes, especially those for exceptions.

There is no need to use Zend_Loader::loadClass() within this component. Just use require_once.

What about having exception classes inherit from Zend_BitTorrent_Exception?

Don't forget to use the one true brace convention, with method and class opening braces on the next line.

Per-class suggestions:

Recommend removal of "=== true"

Enumerate the types that encode()/decode() accept/return (e.g., integer|string|array)

Recommend use of switch(gettype($var)) instead of if...else if...

encodeInteger(), encodeString(), encodeList(), encodeDictionary()

Use gettype() once, no need for is...() functions

Recommend removal of "=== true"

Recommend different regular expression preg_match('/^\d+:/', $string)

decodeInteger(), decodeString()

Recommend different exception messages for different exception cases

decodeList(), decodeDictionary()

Is there really a need to re-encode some parts? Why not just strlen() the encoded part before decoding it?

What benefits does the static factory method have over the "new" operator?

What about extending the class?

On what basis have the values of the class constants been selected?

Protected variable names should begin with underscores (e.g., $_protectedMember)

Does isReadyToBeBuilt() return true even if the object has already been built?

Dec 07, 2007

Thanks for the comment. I'll try to answer everything (I'm a bit short on time, traveling to Spain tomorrow for a week of climbing).

The component might be better off without the static methods and having instances of the classes instead so users can more easily extend the classes.

I'm not sure how other components in ZF deal with caching. I suppose there is not too much hassle to have caching functionality in the component and just let the user enable/disable it. What do you think would be the best option? To implement it in the component or having users extend the classes?

When having instances I can also drop the is*() function calls in the methods that require variables of specific types. If I skip that function call and keep the methods static I would have to make them protected and force the user to only use the generic encode() method. That way I know the input to the protected methods are correct. That would probably work just fine. It does not produce that much overhead. But if we have an instance we could just check the input in the constructor and use that information to skip the is*() calls and have all methods public. Personally I tend to like to be able to call encodeString() if I know my data is a string and not a generic encode() method.

When you say "different placement of the require_once statements for lazy-loading classes" I'm not sure I understand correctly. Would you want them in the code where the exceptions are thrown instead of calls to Zend_Loader? If so, I agree.

The main reason for reencoding data in the decoder is because of how strings are handled. Lets say we want to decode "3:foobar". The decoder will give you (string) "foo" and just discard the rest of the input since the prefix of the encoded string is 3 (the length of the original string). Because of that we can't do a strlen($str) since that would return 6, and not 3 which is the correct length. This might be one good reason for implementing caching in the component instead of having users do it themselves.

What benefits does the static factory method have over the "new" operator?

Not much really. I know some users think it's easier to use factory methods because if often results in fewer lines of code and less possibilities for errors. Personally I think it's a bit cleaner to have a factory method but I'm not saying it's better or worse than having a public constructor.

What about extending the class?

Seems like ditching the factory method and sticking with __construct might be a better idea, yes.

On what basis have the values of the class constants been selected?

On no basis at all actually. There were just the first that came to my mind. I just read the part about class constants in the Coding Standard document and saw how it should be done. I could just change them to "TORRENT_CREATE_FROM_FILE" and so on. Would that be better?

Does isReadyToBeBuilt() return true even if the object has already been built?

Seems like it. I could just see if it was already built and if so, return false. That might be more logical since there is no reason for building the torrent twice.

If I have skipped a questions it's just because I agree and have nothing more to add. <ac:emoticon ac:name="smile" />

I will get to the changes when I get back from my vacation.

Don't hesitate to add more comments if something is unclear.

Dec 11, 2007

With respect to caching, I think that we can find candidates for caching opportunities during incubation (development in trunk/incubator). We should probably not spend much time on premature optimization at this point. Just something to keep in mind. <ac:emoticon ac:name="smile" />

I don't see any need to drop the type-specific encode...() methods such as encodeString() from the public interface. As you noted, it will likely be desirable to call these methods directly when working with known types.

Regarding the use of require_once, yes, I mean to suggest that these statements be located immediately prior to the use of such classes, as in "lazy loading". For example, in a method that throws an exception:

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Regarding constants, we have both names and values. I recommend that names begin with the general and end with the specific (e.g., PATH_CONFIG, LOCATION_COUNTRY). I don't see much problem with the names of the constants you have selected. I was wondering more about the values of these constants, and how these have been chosen.

Have a great vacation, and I look forward to your return! <ac:emoticon ac:name="smile" />

Dec 16, 2007

Christer, is it your intention to get this in to core for the 1.5 release? If so, let us know as soon as the proposal is ready for core team review and we'll turn it around as quickly as possible so you can get it in incubator and the hands of our users. The other possibility is to have it in incubator during 1.5, where it will likely benefit from the general attention we'll be getting around the release.

Dec 17, 2007

It's probably better to let it stay in incubator during 1.5 as you say. I currently don't have too much time to spend on this. Since we use ZF at the place I work I might be able to convince my boss to let me work on ZF related stuff during my work hours though, but anyways I think it might be better to not rush with the component.

Dec 20, 2007

I have updated the proposal a bit. It now includes all source code of the component. The component is in the laboratory as well.

There are some changes that are not in svn yet because of some issues with my laptop. One of the changes I can remember is that I have prefixed the protected properties in the Zend_BitTorrent_Torrent class with an underscore. There are some other minor changes but I can't access my laptop now to see what it is as of now.

Dec 20, 2007

Thanks for this, Christer! <ac:emoticon ac:name="smile" />

I had another comment and a question I wanted to share:

We should consider moving this component to the Zend_Service_* "namespace", especially as this component could be used in affiliation with remote services (e.g., a torrent tracker). What do you think about contributing the tracker component you've written? The API and/or implementation can be improved during its lifetime in the laboratory and/or incubator, if you're concerned about that.

Dec 21, 2007

I have actually started making the tracker I have more generic, but it's going to take some effort from the users wanting to use a tracker component to make it fit in with their database setup regarding users and storage of the torrent files and such. I can try to patch things up a bit and make something presentable and make a separate proposal for it. Does that sound ok? I would think that finishing up the tracker would take a bit more time than the rest of the BitTorrent stuff I am working on though.

I am not sure if I agree with putting this in Zend_Service_* though. I thought that was more suited for web services and not a "server" component like a tracker? Maybe I'm just missing out on something here (which is usually the case <ac:emoticon ac:name="cheeky" />)

Dec 21, 2007

Sounds good to me.

Jan 03, 2008
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This proposal exposes a nice API for working with torrent files. The provided functionality appears to be quite useful, but we're unsure about how much demand exists for the functionality among framework users. We can gauge this demand as the component is made available through the laboratory, and the community has time to understand and use it where appropriate. We suggest that adding a torrent tracker would add value to the component and may help increase adoption. The proposed component is at this time approved for continued development in the laboratory.
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Dec 30, 2008
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We have tentatively accepted this proposal for laboratory development provided this proposal can be rounded out and more information on this component "will not" intend to do (specifically with regards to the portions of bittorent implementation that this component will not touch).

Currently, our comments from before still exist. I have read up on the bittorrent technology and have a few areas where your comments and expertise are needed any our concerns met:

Is it possible that there are more "server capabilities" can be expanded?

currently, it seems as though this proposal is centered around the torrent meta info file.. but can it be expanded to include additional tracker, super-seeder, or some client functionality to bring more "value added" to the table?

Once that concern is met, we can discuss the API. Generally, we are out to achieve a heterogeneous yet intuitive API. By this, I mean is it possible that for the torrent file, the object is the same yet the encoding and decoding is part of the same object's api. For example, to create a new Zend_Bittorrent(), the to be able to call write() on that object to produce a file. We can discuss this more either here or via other communication mediums to flesh out these details.

Feb 17, 2009

First, sorry about my late reply!

I would love to discuss this proposal further. It should be mentioned that there is a separate proposal here about a Zend_BitTorrent_Tracker component over at http://framework.zend.com/wiki/display/ZFPROP/Zend_BitTorrent_Tracker+-+Christer+Edvartsen.

Feel free to send me a mail as it's probably easier to discuss it via mail instead of comments here.

Feb 26, 2010

I have finally found some time to do some work on this subject. I have updated the other proposal I have here regarding a tracker component to Zend Framework (http://framework.zend.com/wiki/display/ZFPROP/Zend_BitTorrent_Tracker+-+Christer+Edvartsen). We should probably merge that one with this instead of having two separate proposals.

Nov 22, 2010

I discovered a bug in decoding and encoding on 32bit systems. The integer fields in the torrent for individual file lengths or the overall torrent length can be greater than the PHP limit of 2GiB but the decoder casts them to (int) which causes integer overflow.

In this situation there are no exceptions thrown but the decoded file lengths are incorrect.

A partial solution may be to cast the value as (float) in decodeInteger(), and treat (float) type the same as (int) in encode().


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"It's about getting an understanding of the power unit and how we are going to put the power down, because it's not going to be easy. There's going to be a lot of simulator work and running through other things that are going to help us put the power down, because I don't think any of us are used to having torque. I've raced for 14 years in F1 and I've never had torque so it's going to be a new experience," Button revealed to ESPN.
"In reality I think it will be easier than in the simulator. The initial oversteer is very difficult to feel in the simulator - that initial feeling that you get through your bum in a race car. I think it will be easier in reality but we're going to find it tough. In high speed corners you're off power for so long and you just can't get the power down.
"You're waiting the whole time. It's not like now with so much downforce and so little torque that you can just floor it and even if you run a bit wide you just understeer off the circuit. But with the 2014 car if you floor it in a corner like Turn 3 at Barcelona, you don't just drive off, you immediately lose the rear because there is so much torque. It's not a balance issue, you have torque and we've never had that before.
"I don't think it will be more exciting to drive. We are going to be fighting for grip the whole time, so I don't think that will make it more exciting.
"If you've got a quick car it won't [be less enjoyable], because you'll still be fighting at the front. I think over a qualifying lap you might not get such a buzz, unless you've put it on pole. The racing will still be exciting, but I think it will be more close and there will be more fighting. There is a lot anyway but the way the cars will be, with less downforce, harder tyres and more torque, you'll get close racing a bit like GP2 because it will be so much easier to make a mistake."
Despite believing that the true impact of the new regulations will only become apparent on the track, Button added that that work currently being done in the simulator and wind tunnel are of the utmost importance.
"It's very important but also you have to make sure that it is correlating correctly with reality and everything that's coming out of the wind tunnel is correct," he continued.
"If you're putting the numbers into the simulator and they're wrong then you're driving around in a car that is completely different to reality and you're not really learning as much as you should. It's always tough to know how much to believe.
"But, yes, I think the simulator is good and we turn up at a grand prix weekend and FP1 is probably our quickest session over the whole race weekend and that's because we've done our homework [in the simulator]. It's not because we've worked harder, it's because we have better tools at our disposal.
"So, yes, it is good and we're spending quite a bit of time in there over the winter. It's just a very different feeling with the engine because the revs are so low and you are using very different gears to what we are using now. One of the most important things is to get the sound queuing correct, because if you don't you get completely lost."


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