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Can Legacy Dual-Core CPUs Drive Modern GPUs?
We've done so. And just for fun, we've added overclocked CPU results into the mix as well.
The Q6600 we originally tested was one of the best-selling enthusiast processors of its day, but dual-core chips were very much the norm. At the time, there were only a handful of games that could even take advantage of four cores and both Intel and AMD priced by core count. That's changed now, with multiple games using up to four cores.
So, can older Core 2 Duo's still keep up? Let's find out.
The System:
Our test bed, the ASUS Rampage Formula X48 Motherboard, from days of yesteryear.
EVGA's GeForce GTX 660 SuperClocked backing-up the Core 2 Duo with muscle.
We tested the E6850 and Q6600 in the same Asus X48 Rampage Formula motherboard with 3GB of DDR2-1066. An EVGA GTX 260 and GTX 660 were used to compare graphics performance. Our overclocked figures were measured using the Q6600 (SLACR core) with its FSB bumped to 1333MHz, up from 1066MHz.
As before, we present performance figures for the GTX 260 and GTX 660. Overclocked performance with the Q6600 at 3GHz and the GTX 660 is also given. The primary question we want to answer is how much a new GPU can help the performance of an older dual-core CPU. In our default configuration, the Q6600 has twice the cores, but the E6850 enjoys a 25% clock speed advantage.
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That's a very good article there, Joel - very enlightening. Thanks for that!
Nice... Thought the first article was interesting but just less practical for most, this piece answers questions that pertain to more of us and results are still good! I figured the quad core would have faired much better than a dual core of that era but here are the results! My current PC (yes I call it a PC because I run win7) is a 2.66ghz dualcore iMac so I can't even upgrade the videocard lol but hey it was free!
Good friend of mine recently upgraded to he new one and this one has been dropped the corner dented with the glass broken but other than that perfect but he saw it as a damaged hand-me-down. 24" so it's great for YouTube viewing with friends in th garage. Runs dota2 just fine but that's all I e thrown at its gforcce 9400m =\
What does the price of a chip has to do with it's performance? If you kept with the times, you maybe wouldn't even have bothered to write this article off because it was known that dual cores DIED once 2010 came in:
More so, the fact that you're suggesting people second hand Q6600's is pure absurd. Yeah, surely the Q6600 does better than dual cores in the majority of games nowadays, but what's the point in investing money on such old, inefficient, and dead platform when you can get a Sandy or Ivy combo from Microcenter for not so much more?
"What does the price of a chip has to do with it's performance?"
Uh. Everything? Chips are priced by their performance. Now, then, and always. Faster chips cost more. Period.
I am recommending the Q6600 as an upgrade for people who have old gaming systems and limited funds. Would I recommend people buy a new Q6600-based rig today? Obviously not. But for $50-$70? That's a great chip.
If I had an older Core 2 Duo CPU and didn't have the $450 I'd need to spend to buy new desktop hardware but could manage $270 for GPU + CPU, then that's a good upgrade. If you want to argue otherwise, you'll need to show me how you can build a better game system for the same amount of money. Keep in mind, you need to cover the cost of motherboard, CPU, RAM, and GPU.
My point was that you were trying to say dual cores are NOT dead cause the cheapest quad is still $175, which is nonsense. If you want to game properly, you need a quad at this time and date, period, and no $50-75 chip will get you the same performance.
Your recommendation of Q6600 is total BS at best since it has horrible single threaded performance. It's no more than a pair of E6600 dualies coupled together... and is a TERRIBLE buy at this time and date. Yes, EVEN at $50-75. Nobody in there right mind should go ahead and milk their old ass machine with a Q6600 when they can save that money towards a new machine. There's no point in spending ANY money on a Q6600 in 2013. None at all. Period. Full stop.
You don't need $450 to upgrade a C2D machine. You can do it for half as much and still have a way better machine.
And what does covering the cost of a GPU have to do with the CPU? You're keeping the GPU in both cases, I thought this article was all on about the CPU upgrade and NOT the GPU upgrade... you make little sense, if any at all. D'oh well.
And no, while I can't show you how you can build a machine as "cheap" and good performing (since you're buying old *** second-hand), I can show you how you can spend your money wisely towards an entirely new system.
Yah i wouldn't recommend it either, but still it's nice to know you can upgrade for $50, a simple drop-in no need to re-install windows upgrade (or replace motherboards) esp. in these economic times. Heck I know there are some out there who still didn't want to upgrade from Windows XP hehe and i think i now understand those people a bit more.
I would just like to say thanks for this article. It seems like every new generation of GPUs the websites update the entire platform for the review, which i guess makes sense for the enthusiasts out there, but for those of us who don't upgrade all the time it leaves us in the dark.
I remember a long long time ago somebody did one of these with like an Athlon 64 and a 7000 series Nvidia GPU.......
I just jumped on a deal from Microcenter for a Core i3 and a motherboard for $140 so it doesn't really apply anymore but it's still nice to know.
I had a Core 2 Duo E4500 (so that's like 5 years?) and a little while ago I swapped my 9800GTX+ for a GTX460. Fact is most games out there don't interest me so it never made sense for me to be plunking down 2-300 every year for a computer part. The biggest reason for even getting the i3 was to see how much of a difference it would make in FSX (the game i play the most) And I got that THQ bundle for $6 a few weeks ago, trying to play Metro2033 was a bit ridiculous on my system (sometimes the FPS dropped into the single digits on mid-high settings)
I'm still waiting for BF3 to drop from $40 and then maybe I'll splurge on a GTX 660TI (Yah i'm not like most gamers, spending more than $30 on a game is just ridiculous to me as well as more than $300 on video card/s, i'll never get it)
As far as the next generation of consoles, i'm not falling for that one again. I waited for the Ps3 to be $400 and the dang thing still broke on me, twice!! It's been over a year and i haven't bothered to get it fixed. I figure by the time i do i'll have a big pile of cheap good games to get through :)
Wow, and how exactly I'm wrong? Care to explain? Playing? Oh wow. Am I talking to a brick wall here?
So let me get this straight, what you're saying is that if someone had $450 in their pocket and a C2D dualie, they should go with a second hand Q6600 + a 670 or a 7950? That is, as was tried to be pointed out before, flat out silly, pointless and absurd. Why? Because the majority of the gains that would come from a 670/7950 WILL be lost, the card will be severely bottlenecked there wouldn't even be any point in making such combination. I mean, a Q6600 with a 7950? Seriously? Do you comprehend the nonsense you're dividing into?
A Q6600 will bottleneck a 580 let alone a 670... yes, EVEN when the application is completely multi-threaded, there WILL be massive gains with a faster chip over a Q6600. So what you should do in such case is to first upgrade the platform, then get a 7870 or something, which would turn in just as good, if not better performance.
The point here is that your point is just pointless and the fact that you're so keen on it is pathetic.
It is what it is. A Q6600 IS a POOR, and a DEAD investment at this time and date. Stop beating this OLD and DEAD horse so that we can go on already.
You're carrying on both sides of this conversation for me; I feel no particular need to participate. :P
"So let me get this straight, what you're saying is that if someone had $450 in their pocket and a C2D dualie, they should go with a second hand Q6600 + a 670 or a 7950? "
Nope. Not what I said, at any juncture.
*I* said: "The combined cost of a used Q6600 and a GeForce GTX 660 should still come in below $300 while delivering far better performance than any bottom-end desktop you might assemble for that price tag."
You have consistently missed the point. This article is written to explore the question of whether you can get a decent upgrade out of a new GPU (and possibly new CPU) if you have an old dual-core. It implicitly assumes that you have limited funds to spend.
That last sentence is vital to the story.
Yes, $500 will buy you a better system than $300 will. But that's not the question. It's not the point. If you only have $300 to spend, period, the fact that a better system can be had for $500 is irrelevant.
If we consider the situation stretched over two years, and the person in question intends to use the GTX 660 both as an upgrade and next year, as a GPU in a new rig, than the "cost" of upgrading the old system is $50-$70. Again, that's a useful data point for someone with limited funds to spend.
There's also the fact that a quick CPU and GPU upgrade is typically faster than a full system swap out -- you might be able to nurse a Windows install across chipsets when going from Core 2 era to Core i7, but I wouldn't recommend it. A third interested reader might want to know how much of a benefit they'd see if they upgraded an older secondary system for occasional LAN games, a child, or loved one.
The problem I have with your increasingly frenetic argument is that you set up and knock down straw men in quick succession. The point of this story isn't to advocate everyone spend $300 instead of $500. I don't claim that a Q6600 is just as good as a Core i3 / i5 -- I don't compare against those processors at all.
This story, and the one that preceded it, answer the same question: "What's the benefit of combining an older CPU and modern GPU?"
I stand by my results, as tested. I stand by my conclusion, as drawn. For certain enthusiasts with limited funds, this upgrade makes sense -- especially over two years. If I had an E6850 and was buying a GTX 660 no matter what, I'd pay $60 for a 12-month upgrade of 30-35% to my gaming frame rates, particularly if I planned to keep the system thereafter as a second rig.
You talked about "covering the cost of the GPU", which INCLUDES buying a new GPU AND CPU. In such case, buying EVEN a 570 together with a Q6600 is, again, flat out pointless and dumb.
What you should do under such case is to save up money towards an ENTIRE NEW box and do it that way.
Suggesting anyone to get a 660 WITH a Q6600 is so ludacris and moronic I'm out of words.
It's at least better than people that still suggest those with 280's etc. go to SLi, or people that still suggest VelociRaptors...
"What you should do under such case is to save up money towards an ENTIRE NEW box and do it that way."
Why? I'd gladly pay $70 for better game performance for 12-18 months. Data shows that doing so improves frame rates by as much as 40%. Battlefield 3 on the Q6600 at 3GHz was noticeably, obviously faster than BF3 on the Q6600 at 2.4GHz, which was faster than the E6850 at 3GHz.
If I upgrade my CPU this year and then flip that chip for $20 next year, I'll have paid $30-$50 for a significant performance boost. That's an easy decision.
You are certainly welcome to your opinion on the relative benefit of upgrading. We have different views on this topic.
IDK what should I speak about actually. Whether you're to keen on the Q6600 suggestion or you didn't even get that I was making a pun by using the word "Ludacris" instead of "ludicrous" ...
Data shows that a Q6600 offers 40% better performance over a E6850? And how much difference does THAT data would show if you put that Q6600 at 2.4 head-to-head with a 3770 at 3.5? Especially with a card as fast as a heavily OC'ed 7950 reference with Volterra VRM, up to *** fast speeds higher than a 7970? In that case, the Ivy chip would blow the dog *** out of the Q6600 much that I wouldn't be surprised if you saw a 100-200% gain in a CPU intensive area of BF3...
your view on this topic is honestly laughable. You're suggesting people to pair up 670's/7950's with Q6600's... and that's just because the games are more threaded nowadays. A few years ago that wouldn't even have been the case. That chip has God awful single or dual threaded performance at this time and date.
Unless you could OC the *** out of the Q6600 back to hell and forth (say over 4 Ghz), it's, I repeat, NOT a worthwhile chip period.
I recently upgraded a 3.6 QX9650 machine with a 3770K (570 SLi) and have seen a nice and significant boost in the games I play, even with the Ivy chip at stock.
"And how much difference does THAT data would show if you put that Q6600 at 2.4 head-to-head with a 3770 at 3.5?"
I haven't tested it. But let's assume it was twice as fast as the Q6600 at 2.4GHz. 78 FPS.
The Q6600 is $50-$70. The 3770K is $319. You've just spent 4.5x as much money for a 2x frame rate gain. Not very good from an efficiency stand point.
" You're suggesting people to pair up 670's/7950's with Q6600's"
Nope. I'm suggesting people pair a GTX 660 with an older chip when that older chip is available for very little money and they've got an older dual core. I've previously stated that scaling with a Radeon 7950 should be similar to a GTX 660 card, but noted that I haven't tested this configuration.
"I recently upgraded a 3.6 QX9650 machine with a 3770K (570 SLi) and have seen a nice and significant boost in the games I play, even with the Ivy chip at stock."
Sure. I have no problem believing that you might see a 20-25% frame rate increase from that jump-- possibly even more, depending on the particulars of the game.
"Worthwhile" depends on what you own, what you want to do with it, and what you can afford to replace it with.
We're talking in circles and you refuse to acknowledge that not everyone has the same amount of money to drop on an upgrade or the same desires when considering options. Have a pleasant day.
Then it WOULD be worthwhile. How is an average 38 FPS even acceptable at all?
And no, the 7950 is MUCH faster than the 660. It even beats the 670 significantly once both are OC'ed heavily. They aren't even in the same class to begin with.
One more thing is that very, very few still own a Conroe on their primary machine. Most on S775 are on Wolfdale so getting a Q6600 wouldn't be a wise choice, at all. There's little to no point in swapping a E8400 with a Q6600.
The thing is, like I said before, you don't need hundreds of dollars to upgrade a C2D machine. Microcenter currently has a deal that offers a FM2 board for FREE with a FM2 chip...
now look at that. The A8 5400K is an extremely mere $60. So for a mere $60, you can have a brand new barebone. Just add some $10-20 low-profile DDR3 on top of it and you're good to go. And how much better would that setup be over an old Q6600 setup..? You tell me.
There is no A8-5400K.
There's an A6-5400K (dual-core), with weak single-threaded performance and an A8-5600K for $109 at NewEgg. Given Bulldozer / Piledriver's weak IPC, it's not clear that this is a benefit. Might be. I'd have to benchmark it. Remember, Phenom II offered roughly equal performance to Core 2 Duo, clock for clock -- but Piledriver's IPC is 10-15% slower than Llano clock-per-clock.
The only way to answer this question would be to build a new set of systems for comparison -- and I have other projects what need doing. You might be correct -- a cheap AMD rig might outperform an old Core 2 Duo and would still be cheaper than a new Core i5/i7 system. Teasing out the accuracy of that question is impossible without a new round of tests.
BD has weak ass IPC but an excellent OC'ability potential and multi-threaded performance, and PileDriver doesn't have "weak" IPC at all as it's IPC is as good as Nehalem's. It's a benefit. Both from IPC and especially from clock speeds. The FM1 chip has a much higher clock speed and OC's much further than the Q6600. Ghz wise, the Q6600 is so slow it's laughable LOL you know, 2.4 Ghz. It has a sick OC'ing potential though that is NOT to be expected with all Q6600's so I wouldn't bet on it. Especially given that you need a beastly board to push it.
The AM2+ Phenom 2's with the DDR2 controller offered similar performance to Q6600, such as the X4 940. The AM3 Phenom's with the increased IPC and better cache/clock speeds, such as the 965 BE, outperform Kentsfields such as Q6600.
The BullDozer based A8-5600K would easily beat the Q6600. It has significantly faster IPC, faster clock speeds and faster OC'ing potential.
Best thing is you'd end up with a newer platform that is more efficient. The Q6600 is a power hog once OC'ed heavily. It's basically a room heater. Not to mention the old boards the people on E6600's etc. have, with liquid caps and all that old, dislikeable ***.
Anand actually has those chips in their chart, and yeah the FM1 setup is indeed faster:
Looking at the Cinebench charts, which is the closest thing to a game on that comparison, the FM1 setup ends up to be significantly faster.
I wrote a crap ton, and decided to summarize.
I think we can all agree that once you enter a scenario such as the one in reference, the cost per performance ratio is the most important thing, or if you plan on never playing another game, getting the maximum level of performance in that particular game is the most important. Yes, you may hit a bottleneck, but any budget PC is going to have a bottleneck somewhere. What's important is gauging your level of satisfaction after installing your "new" hardware, and this article shows that you indeed could find a satisfactory level of gaming by simply upgrading to a new GPU.
Piledriver doesn't have "weak" IPC at all as it's IPC is as good as Nehalem's.
Piledriver's IPC is on par with Bulldozer's. See here:
The performance data in that article was measured with Turbo Mode turned *off* for all processors in order to take a closer look at IPC and efficiency.
Piledriver's improved performance in general single-threaded benchmarks (when Turbo Mode is enabled) comes from two improvements:
1) The chip spends more time in Turbo mode than Bulldozer did. BD ran closer to its envelope and had a harder time actually utilizing Turbo mode.
2) Higher clock speeds.
Once you normalize against clock speed and deactivate Turbo Mode, Piledriver's improvements are on the order of 5-7%. It's not as strong a chip as Nehalem. The Thuban-based Phenom II hits a single-threaded score of 1.0x at 3.3GHz with its Turbo Mode off. The Nehalem-based Core i7-970 scored ~1.2 in the CB 11.5 test (at 3.46GHz).
The FX-8350, with Turbo Mode enabled, only scores a 1.1. That's a 4.2GHz clock speed.
If the Core i7-970 is pulling a 1.2 at 3.46GHz while the FX-8350 does 1.10 at 4.2GHz, it indicates that Nehalem has a significant IPC advantage over AMD's Piledriver.
The Anandtech benchmarks do indeed show a stock A8-5600K beating a Q6600. Your point is taken. While the A10-5600K would still be more expensive than $50-$70 for a new Q6600, it would be substantially less expensive than upgrading to an Intel Core i7 quad-core + new mobo + RAM.
Well, thanks for all that. Didn't really keep up with AMD tech to know about those as I only checked out one or two FX-8350 reviews, BUT, it still has slightly improved IPC over Bulldozer. I'd say it's somewhere in between Nehalem and Yorkfield, which is somewhat respectable.
Anyway, I personally could care less about all that TBH. This Z77 Extreme9 + 3770K is so good I'm treating it like my baby. The Extreme9 has a maximum OC button in it's UEFI which just OC's the *** out of the CPU to 4.8 with a single click... and the setup is so much more fluid, stable and efficient than that old, fat and hot ass QX9650 which barely did 3.6 after a good amount of setting and tweaking...
anyway, what I was, from the beginning, saying is that Q6600 really can't be the way to go when setups like that FM1 can be had. Hell, even second hand *** like Phenom 2 hardware from eBay would be easily better than a Q6600. The problem with Q6600 is mostly people on an as old as E6600 chips have old boards and platforms that can now be considered "shitty" that it'd, honestly, IMHO, just be better to upgrade the whole thing when you can do it for so cheap:
You really ought to deepen your understanding of these topics if you want to debate them cogently.
Westmere's benefits over Nehalem were:
Hardware AES instructions.
Improved virtualization performance.
A greater number of cores (6, instead of 4).
Higher clock speed.
Outside of these specific areas, Westmere's IPC was *not* significantly higher than Nehalem's. Benefits were in the 3-4% range, tops.
I didn't say Westmere's IPC was significantly higher than Nehalem's. I know it was just about that much better as it didn't offer way better single threaded performance when it came down to the real usage of it.
What I was saying is that, you were comparing Cinebench scores of Gulftown to Nehalem, which is somewhere the Gulftown, definately WOULD, at whichever percent, come on top of Nehalem.
And I know that from first hand experience since I had an E5620 on an X58 UD9 (which unfortunately shorted out and died the day I booted it up) and it, generally, was barely any faster than an i7 920. Was mostly a give or take.
It doesn't matter, in this instance. Let me show you why, using Anandtech's database.
Remember, we're looking for IPC, so clock speeds matter. The simplest way to get a comparable metric is to divide the score by the clock speed. The trick here is that we have to use Turbo Speeds. This figure gives us a steady comparison between clock speed and Cinebench 11.5 performance.
Core i7-3770K = 0.000425.
Core i7-2600K = 0.00040.
Core i3-3220 = 0.000415 (IVB part, slightly more efficient than the Core i7-2600K).
Core i7-990X = 0.000346 (Westmere)
An overclocked Core i7-920 at 3.8GHz turns in a Cinebench 11.5 score of 1.39. You can check that here:
Core i7-920 OC'D = 0.000365
Core i7-990X OC'D = 0.000345
Why is Nehalem slightly faster than Westmere's single-threaded performance when overclocked? Let's call that a test errata. But we've got a steady pattern here. Intel's single-threaded efficiency in CB11.5 has improved 23% between Westmere and Ivy Bridge.
Now let's compare AMD. We're back to Anandtech's numbers.
FX-8350 (Piledriver) = 0.000261
FX-8150 (Bulldozer) = 0.000261
Phenom II 975 BE = 0.000307
And there you have it. Once we normalize clock speed and compare performance-per-MHz, you see that 1) the FX-8350 isn't any more efficient than the FX-8150 in single-threaded tests and 2) AMD is so far behind Intel as far as single-threaded efficiency, it obviates the advantage of overclocking.
And how it doesn't matter? Do you realize the 970 has a stock clock of 3.2 agaist the 2.66 of the 920, right? And that it can easily pull a 4.5 whereas the 920 barely does 4.2? And that it also has slightly better per Mhz performance?
That comparison you did there is absurd. There's no way for an OC'ed i7 920 to beat a 990X. The 990 can easily do 5 Ghz abouts that there's no *** way for a 920 to beat it out. The test is either errored out as you said, or maybe even MADE UP to shill that pre-built machine which got into the test.
It's more like a difference between test setups that made the difference. You're comparing things from different sites... mind you, the test benches have to be the EXACT SAME for them to be 100% accurate.
I admit that I didn't know PileDriver's IPC was about the same as Bulldozer's and that it was relying heavily on Turbo speeds. And that's because I personally didn't care about any of that.
Regardless, an OC'ed Westmere will come on top of an OC'ed Nehalem %90 of the time. The other %10 is very rare cases where the 920 does 4.5-5 Ghz. And yeah, AMD's in-game performance doesn't look too good either. Even when things are threaded, the FX-8150 still used to get spanked by a QX9770...
You don't seem to understand what a single-threaded test *is*.
Single-thread. One core.
If Westmere and Nehalem have the same architecture as far as Cinebench 11.5 is concerned (and they do), then Westmere and Nehalem will perform identically once clock speed variation is taken into account. It doesn't matter that Westmere has 6 cores and Nehalem has 4. We're testing ONE core.
Also? I wrote that review. Implying that I made up the benchmark results is insulting and inaccurate.
Finally, Cinebench 11.5 is widely quoted because it's a simple test. A Core i7-3770K will perform the same in Cinebench 11.5 regardless of RAM loadout, RAM speed, or QPI linkages.
The data I've just showed you compared performance in Cinebench as a function of clock speed. The stock clocks are irrelevant.
Look at the Core i7-3770K vs. the Core i3-3220. The Core i7-3770K scores 0.000425 points per MHz. The Core i3-3220 scores 0.000415 points per MHz. That difference (2.4%) is either margin of error or due to different cache sizes. The point is that the scaling is *consistent.*
And *because* scaling is consistent, we can get a sense for the relative performance of other architectures. That's how we see that IPC between AMD chips and Nehalem is still quite wide.
What I was saying is, Gulftown/Westmere is EASILY a better chip than Nehalem when you put it on the run in real World conditions. Gulftown will even beat Sandy Bridge when a game scales across all 6 threads very well. Nehalem isn't as good of a chip as Westreme is and that's a fact.
Now, what I was implying is, when you put the FX-8350 on real world gaming benches, it WILL be up there with an i7 920 as far as performance in concerned. The reason being turbo speeds, IPC whatever. I'm talking about the end result.
But yes, you're correct that AMD's single threaded, or even multi-threaded performance isn't anywhere as good as Intel's and in no line I despited that. I agree about that because even in some completely threaded apps the FX-8150 still loses to a Sandy Bridge chip. You don't need to repeat so basic things as if I'm a moron over and over again.
Those are some solid numbers I can sit behind... though I'm still sitting on a 6-core, so I'm not too far behind.
This is valuable information for those us making the most of our systems, and do not upgrade so often. My Q6600 system is still running from 2008 and will be upgraded when Haswell arrives.
Overclocked to 3.52GHz, I too have noticed significant performance increases going from a GTX 460 to a GTX 570 and GTX 660. At 99% GPU load and 39% to 47% oc on CPU, the following were my results in The Witcher 2 on high settings at 1080p:
3.33GHz CPU -- GTX 460 (763MHz): 25fps
3.33GHz CPU -- GTX 570 (732MHz): 44fps
3.52GHz CPU -- GTX 570 (950MHz): 49fps
3.52GHz CPU -- GTX 660 (1124MHz): 44fps
Currently only getting 6060 in 3DMark11 on the GTX660, but once haswell is released, I expect up to another 33% increase in performance from better overall system throughput, based on other people's results with i7-3770k's. Also my ram is 2x4GB DDR3 running at 1174MHz with timings 5-6-6-14-2T, running on an ASRock P35 board. Frankly, I'm impressed at how game-able the system still is at 1080p on high settings in BF3, Crysis 3, and Borderlands 2.
I would like to add that I got the GTX 570 for $100 (friend), and the GTX 660 (ASUS DC2O) for $120 (online deals), so definitely was worth throwing them into an older system while I wait for Haswell.


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they would be in Airheadsville (aka California)!!!!! The mountains are nice, but very dry - unlike the green, lush mountains of the NE or NW, and often covered with haze - especially in the summer!!!!! The people here are among the worse drivers anywhere - driving to the ski resorts in the winter is a nightmare!!!!! I'm from New York (LI) and while the people there aren't that
friendly (especially the mostly materialistic womenfolk), don't see that much
of a difference here - & the food here is horrible (no fresh seafood or good Chinese)!!!!! Housing is a little cheaper - but the pay scale is much lower, unless maybe you are a professional!!!!! The constant sunny weather gets old real fast, while the high UV's fry your skin and eyes year-round!!!!! The nights are nice, cool and dry - but you don't get a real Fall here (like the
great ones in the NE) and no charm here like New England exudes with!!!!! :-(
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Multimodal transit falls short in Denver - 6/29/2014
Denver is in a unique position to lead the mountain west region in developing multimodal transportation. The new light rail system is a true gem, but the hype around multimodal transit misses the point. Combined with good feeder bus service and adequate parking, it can be a great way to solve many of our urban transportation issues, as more people move to metro areas. Denver has also pushed to increase bicycle and foot traffic by expanding a bike share program and zone for high density development, as well as transit oriented development around transportation centers. It falls short, however, in the way Denver is implementing policies which force people to use public transit by reducing the requirements to provide adequate parking in high density areas, and reducing bus routes to encourage light rail use. Suburban bus routes have been reduced in favor of bus feeder routes to the light rail stations, diminishing convenient and timely bus service in and around the suburbs. The reduction of available parking in high density developments or transit hubs creates a traffic congestion nightmare as people who drive instead of bike or walk to a location because they are constrained by time, distance, or weather (especially in winter) now clog the streets looking for a parking space. Although moving in the right direction, Denver has fallen short in making multimodal transit convenient, which is the key to it's success.[Comment on this Posting]
Climate - 6/11/2014
THe climate is nice in Denver. Warm in the summer-mid90's as a high and sometimes very cold in the winter. It can get down to 0 to 20 degrees in the winter. We've been getting part of the global warming and the winters have been milder over the last few years.
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Denver: Home of the Rude & Ugly - 6/3/2014
Denver, you suck.
Bad wages.
Unfriendly, rude, snobby, yuppy, terrible people.
Rents approaching the cost of LA.
Vehicle registration.
Mountain men.
Hypoxic population.
Zero fashion sense.
So happy Denver lost the Super Bowl - couldn't have happened to a more deserving city! Can't wait to leave![Comment on this Posting]
What is the smoking situation really like in Denve - 5/26/2014
Hello Denver, I've been living in Portland Oregon for the last 10 years and am ready for some nice dry and sunny weather. I have asthma and I don't want to be around people smoking anything. I will be living in an apartment. I currently live in a smoke-free apartment complex. With Colorado's new smoking laws are all of my neighbors going to be smoking pot? Thanks for your comments.
Here's the deal about the mile high climate - 5/18/2014
I grew up in Boulder, not far from Denver:
EVERYONE I know in Colorado will brag to you about their weather, climate.
Most of those same people originate (or their families) come from the Midwest. And yes, relative to the Midwest, Colorado weather is overall superior. Especially the winters.
Here is where the hype needs to end though: Colorado is a high, and dry desert climate. So you get extreme colds in the winter, and it can get very hot in the summer. It seems like forest fire season has been getting longer each year. Its dry, so get used to dry skin and chapped lips in the winter. Its common to get a blizzard each year in the month of May... When storms roll in, in the spring, it can be insanely windy (talking 40+ MPH sustained). No one ever called CO weather not interesting.
Now that I reside in a more temperate climate along the West Coast, I don't miss the CO weather. Yes, Denver gets 300+ days of sunshine a year, but you pay a price for it...... Basically, I'd prefer just about any micro climate from San Diego (duh) along the coast all the way up to Seattle (not kidding).
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Winters in Denver - 5/10/2014
Denver's snow season can begin as early as September 3, and end as late as June 12. Believe me, it gets very old after awhile.
Denver - 4/3/2014
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Over 300 Days of Sunshine a Year Plus Beautiful Mo - 2/25/2014
Living in the Denver Metro area is very conducive to good health because with all our sunshine, it is easy to get out for a run or hike.[Comment on this Posting]
Strange here in Denver - 2/22/2014
Overall, the people here are more helpful and kind than the northeast. But so many people here are spineless wimps. People are so hesitant and afraid to assert themselves. Thus, it seems as though they lack social skills. I hate to generalize but for the most part, this is my observation. People are hard to get to know because they are so kept to themselves. You can talk to strangers in public in Boston but not
in Denver. The guys that aren't roughnecks are total sissies for the most part. Grow a pair Denver.
The traffic here isn't bad compared to most cities(although the city is trying to make it worse), the crime is fairly low, it is pretty clean, climate is awesome,
public transportation is bad unless you live and work right in Denver, and something to do for everyone. If ou are looking for a big city vibe, don't come here. It is a major city but medium in size. Downtown is small compared to Boston or San Francisco but is getting bigger in a very RAPID way. There is an agenda behind it but that is another story. You can wear rival sports team gear here and people won't attack you for it like they do in some places. As far as food goes, it isn't NYC, but if you look you can find good hole in the wall places. Locals seem to think that chain food is good and if you tell them about hole in the wall family places they act like you are weird. Sorry but Olive Garden is not my idea of good italian fare. Great mexican food here.
Why Live In Dever - 12/23/2013
I've lived in a suburb (Northglenn) just north of Denver for the last five years, and can't wait to move. Everything here is overpriced, homes, apartments, taxes, food, utilities, and there are high fees on everything. Colorado is the next California, possibly due to the many liberals which have moved here from California and other liberal heavy states which are presently going bankrupt from liberal policies. The state and local governments here have there hand out every time you turn around. In Northglenn where I live, they have been very busy condemning small business owners so they can build denser commercial projects, which will provide more sales and property taxes. The politicians in Colorado are constantly trying to raise taxes and fees on everything they can. Another expense to consider is for Police enforcement, because the Police are relentless with traffic citations. I received a citation for making an illegal turn that I didn't make, which cost me $185. Don't even think that you can go to Court and beat it, because the Judges are intimately involved in the budgeting process and setting of fines. All they're concerned about is collecting money from you. There are a whole lot of illegal aliens and welfare scammers here, which you will be financing with your hard earned money. I'd recommend you avoid Colorado unless you're a liberal.
Glad I left - 10/31/2013
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If you want to move here... - 7/31/2013
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Nice? - 7/31/2013
I'm thinking of moving to Denver, CO from Las Vegas, NV -I like to read & bike ride & wondering if there is others in Denver that do the same? Not much here in SinCity. And I want to fit in.. Any suggestions?
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waste of time - 6/5/2013
-Art is great here. A very progressive cradle to creative development
-Fantastic music scene and always a show every night. David B Smith art gallery is amazing and every 1st Friday has several art walks (Santa Fe Art District is one of the most well known).
-If you like drinking, the city's pretty much a bar town. Plus some great microbreweries.
-Definitely a singles town, lots of dating opportunity.
-If you're gay or even straight not familiar with the scene, there's a very comforting culture there. Pride fest is an great experience no matter what your preference is.
-420 fest is also great if you smoke. It does start looking like an ex con gathering though (count the number of tear drop tattoos on peoples' faces).
-Hiking is great, I would suggest El Durado Springs. Also great rock climbing.
-A ton of culinary people there, some really good eats and interesting restaurants.
-Skiing/Snowboarding is also great in the mountains (try anything in Summit County, bus system is free once you get there.)
-Denver city is pretty small, walking across it takes no time at all.
-Parks are all over and they're really fun to relax at.
-Boulder's fun I guess. Round trip from Denver there is around 6 dollars (might have gone up).
-Meet people that are new to Denver as well, you'll find exploring the city with someone else new is a great way to make some cool friends.
-Slogan: "Go there for vacation, leave there on probation."
-Three types of people: Alcoholics, Hood Rats, and Drug Addicts. (East Coast billboards say "Don't smoke cigarettes", Denver billboards say "Don't smoke Meth"). Well, I guess welcome to the Midwest.
-A lot of locals seem piss poor and uneducated.
-Most natives look down on transplants.
-Gangs, criminals, and a shit ton of homeless bums who harass you at all times.
-Colfax Avenue.
-16 Street Mall.
-Areas surrounding Denver ban Pit bulls, and to my knowledge put them down after they take them from your home.
-They tout liberalism, but are very conservative.
-The front range is pretty dull, mountains are nice in the winter though.
-Landlords are horrible, some of the slum areas are pretty cheap in a fratty-sort of way. Although bums came door to door there and you don't want to leave valuables outside.
-Although there are some cool buskers on the streets, hood rats have no problem taking their hard earned money tips from them.
-People who are taken advantaged are passive aggressive to the point they probably deserved to get robbed.
-Police are crooked (that's everywhere else, though); A few incidences where police rammed into civilian cars comes to mind.
-Mountain towns are cool if you like being around rich wiggers or if you like coke.
-Drivers are pretty shitty, but the congestion there isn't as bad as some of the east coast
-Purina Dog Food headquarters can waft over the city at times (unless you're into that.)
Fun place to visit, live there for a couple years and see how you like it, but once you start feeling that it's not that great anymore, LEAVE RIGHT AWAY. Don't wait around for things to get better. There's some great aspects, but there's great aspects elsewhere as well. Denver will always be there.[Comment on this Posting]
Denver - 5/5/2013
Denver has some good points, but there are a lot of bad as well. The good points include the performing arts and the wide variety of restaurants. The bad points include all the pot-smoking liberals, who don't care about religion and want to live their own weird life styles. The cost of living is very high, the taxes are high, and the housing is ridiculously high.
I'm trying to move out of this crazy city and nutty state of Colorado. It has really turned into a deeply liberal and non-religious place. Many people here hate God and hate those who believe in God.[Comment on this Posting]
Forever optimist - 4/30/2013
After traveling the world I would have to say anyplace can be great if you make it so. I am always open to meeting new people and trying new things. I was born and raised in the suburbs of Denver so any negative opinions I have are related to "suburbia life" and now that I'm older I am not a fan of the soccer mom mentality that seems to be corrupting our youth and our originality. I have met some amazing people here; natives and transplants. There is a lot that the city has to offer and numerous outdoor activities. I am moving, shortly and my advice to anyone moving to Denver, or anyplace else is to own where you live, be proud, if you see a problem, don't complain but work to fix it. So many posts I have read make such broad generalizations. No one will ever be perfect but anyplace can be better if you make it so. If you are reading this with plans to move to Denver then visit, talk to people. Don't base a decision on posts created by random people whom you have never met and may have nothing in common with.[Comment on this Posting]
Denver and Denver Metro Life (Suburbs) - 2/1/2013
The majority leaving comments -especially those who have been in this city more than 20 years are mostly right on. Being from Colorado for 24 years, half of it in the Springs and the other half in Denver,I have been fortunate enough to watch this town become a major city. I was around when I- 76 West just plain stopped at Pecos St. forget about driving up toward the mountains on that route. In saying that, the HIGHWAYS never caught up it the population growth.
Denver had/has an awesome way about pouring it's funds into building up their major sports team and venues (I mean how many times was Mile High Stadium bought??)Regardless, there is only one major highway in Denver and it's called I-25. Note, this is Denver not all the unmarked Metro areas that should be referred to AS suburbs of Denver.
But since the out growth of Denver happened too quickly the little pockets of towns got smooched together and all of the sudden people say they live in Denver even though they live in Englewood; It's more confusing than not.
Denver's actual population is 600 thousand, it became liberal because of the younger population living in the city. Which gave Denver a needed birth.
On the flip side, the city school's are poorly funded as is their health system (overall)and they are always working on highway construction.
Also, I don't think the people are rude, there just seems to be a lot of determined shopaholics. Stay off the streets (ride the LR if you can) and you'll be home by 9 pm everyday. Just in time for the local news that tends to cover up or tone down the actual crime that happens daily.
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Beautiful Denver Colorado - 1/30/2013
Colorado native. Have lived in larger cities primarily on the West coast. Have many associates who have traveled and lived all over the world, in our opinion feel Denver is one of the BEST cities to live in. Especially for raising a family. Not to mention the sunshine, views, and activities available. [Comment on this Posting]
Life in Denver - 1/17/2013
I have been living in the Denver Metro area for over 24 years, and feel that I can honestly give you the most accurate answer. Denver is a polluted, overpopulated,liberal,unfriendly, expensive, city. The traffic is horrible, the air quality is terrible and it gets worse everyday. If you are liberal, a sportsaholic,don't mind waiting in line for EVERYTHING, like to smoke alot of pot and keep to yourself, then it will be the place for you![Comment on this Posting]
Should I move to Seattle or Denver? - 12/20/2012
Single girl moving from the NYC region and I can't decide on Seattle or Denver. I don't mind the rain and I don't care much about the sun but I love to be active and spend time outdoors. I will be moving without a job and looking once I get there so being able to find a job easily is a big factor. Also, I am originally from Europe so I love meeting international people and I will be traveling a lot all over the West coast. Overall I am into a healthy lifestyle, with some spirituality on the side (yoga, meditation, inner peace) and I would love to get into a city with that type of vibe. Feeling good inside is way more important to me than rain or sun, etc. Any opinions and suggestions will be very much appreciated. Thank you![Comment on this Posting]


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Part 5 in the Beginning Quilting Series
So if your quilt feels flat or boring, try a 'zinger fabric' to give it some spunk. Has this worked for anyone else? Feel free to link to examples!
Originally posted at Make and Takes
in my family, we always add an "ugly" fabric or two. not that the uglies are actually ugly...they just don't match perfectly with the other fabrics. it creates more interest. (or "zing" as you like to put it. :) )ReplyDelete
Thanks for the tip, I'm always worrying that my fabrics don't match well enough because they're not from the same line.ReplyDelete
Good advice! I like it better with the red too!ReplyDelete
I agree I recently made a pink quilt for my niece but it was the flashes of clashing red that made the quilt pop and stopped it being too sickly sweetReplyDelete
I agree....alot of ho hum quilts could go fab if they had just used a zinger! It's hard to brave and go where no quilter has gone before! LOL! yeah, a little Trekkie there LOL!ReplyDelete
What a great tip! I'll remember that.ReplyDelete
Excellent! That's probably why I get stuck so often, I'm too scared to do that! I love your fabrics in that quilt, too.ReplyDelete
Excellent tip! I think we sometimes get so hung up on using a "line" of fabric that we forget it wasn't always that way - people actually had to put together their own color combinations! Your quilt is much more interesting with the addition of the red - it gives the eye something to "stop" on, then it gets to admire the rest of the quilt!ReplyDelete
I was grabbing fabrics for a Katie Jump Rope Autumn quilt last month and on a whim threw in some black/cream flowers from American Jane Peas & Carrots. I did quarter square triangles of that around as a border and I am totally in love with it because of that fabric that doesn't really go.
I totally agree that throwing a curve ball in there makes it interesting.
Oh see, I look at that and I think it totally goes. It matches with the black in the sunflowers and with that darker stripe.Delete
Great tip! love the red!ReplyDelete
this is beautiful with the red...sometimes colors fall flat. this happened to me recently while working on a quilt for someone who said their favorite colors were pink and purple...and just those two alone seemed a little nauseating so i added some blue and green. i did not think it worked at first but once it was all done i knew that those extra colors were what made all the difference.
I also like a bit of the unexpected. I made a simple strip quilt our of Joel Dewberry Modern Meadow, in its lovely browns, blues and greeens, then added a simple square of red to draw the eye on both the front and back. I liked the effect! Will do more of that. Here it is (though I remember you have seen it!):
This is so true! I did this with my current quilt-in-progress with the green dots. They don't really match but they "pop" and make all the pink in the quilt much less overbearing.
Jennifer :)
That must be what's wrong with my most recent project. It's all blues & greens (ranging from limey to teal) with a bit of very pale yellow, so it's very oceany. While it's very pretty (and for me, very well matched & pointy at the tips, tyvm!) it is kinda boring. I think 'cuz it's all the same values. Maybe next time, I'll throw in a splash of ummm...see, there's the problem. A splash of WHAT? Please don't say red - unless it's watermelon or strawberries, I don't care for red much. :( (but it looks good on YOUR quilt!)ReplyDelete
Wow, what an obvious difference. I like it okay without the red, but with the red it's just gorgeous.
I studied English lit. in college, and I remember hearing that the most famous and popular of Shakespeare's sonnets (and this goes for other famous poems, too) were ones that mostly followed the traditional rhyme scheme and meter, but had one or two noteworthy exceptions where the rhyme or meter was deliberately just a little off.
I want to see if I can incorporate this principle into sewing kids' clothes.
Saw this today and thought of you, You're a Cath Kidson fan right??
the red really makes the quilt! good to know i am not the only that isn't happy the first time i lay something out ;o)ReplyDelete
The red really added interest. Lovely quilt.ReplyDelete
Wonderful advice - thanks!ReplyDelete
Love to add an unexpected fabric or color in a quilt. It spices things up!ReplyDelete
I agree. I like the quilt better with the red. Thanks for showing the example. It's a darling quilt!ReplyDelete
I think the red adds some 'pop' to the quilt.
I always try to add something that is a little out of the range of the basic fabrics too because I feel like this style of quilt needs to have... for lack of a better word the 'pop' in it. I also, I have been wandering around your blog for a few days and it is a wonderful blog. I love the tutorials and projects you share. Thank you!!!
I once took a class, and the teacher's advice was "Every quilt needs a little lime green." Same idea :)ReplyDelete
I really enjoy your blog. I made a Halloween table runner with your tutorial and featured it on our Praiseworthy blog (lovelypraiseworthy.blogspot.com). I think there are a few zinger fabrics in it, and I love how it turned out!ReplyDelete
wow! crazy how that makes it look totally different! Love your nephews quilt too!!ReplyDelete
I really "get" the zinger thing, but there are a few people who don't love it so much. I used one brighter green polka dot that wasn't part of the "Dandelion Girl" quilt I made, plus some black touches throughout. I think it's great! I put it in one quilt show, and it didn't even rate a comment from the judge. In a different show, I won a blue ribbon. To each his own, but I'm happy.ReplyDelete
My problem is I use too many zingers and have to tone it down! Excellent post!ReplyDelete
I agree with this, some times you need it, i have posted something similar today and shall try to create a link to this !!!!ReplyDelete
Thanks very much for this tutorial! I a piecing my first quilt today, use your instructions. I blog my sewing journey and have linked back to you here: http://mamassewingroom.blogspot.com/2011/07/piecing-finally.html
Best wishes from Australia :)
This post is AMAZING! Thank you thank you thank you.
I've been wanting to make a quite for a long time now and your tutorial is jsut what I needed.
I love zinger fabrics! It really does make it pop!
Love the Thomas train, too!
Thank you for this, I have just started my first quilt and have been a little bit worried about piecing it. I am only doing square blocks as it is my first project. I will be very careful with the seam allowance!!ReplyDelete
Thank you so much for your tutorial! I am a first time quilter and I am making a quilt for my son, so I ordered charm pack thinking it would be easier, but I am finding that not all of the squares are exactly 5x5's! Some are 5 1/4, so I just laid them all out like I wanted and started piecing and by the time I lined up my second row, none of the lines matched......I'm trying to know get discouraged. What do you suggest I do? Should I just cut the remainder of my charm squares to where they are all the same or do you know any other tricks? Hope to hear from you soon! ~StacyReplyDelete
Well, it's 2013 so not sure anyone is still around but.... so super excited I found this tutorial. So detailed that I'm thinking I can do this! Wow - does make a difference with the red! Who knew? Thanks!ReplyDelete
Well, it's 2013 so not sure anyone is still around but.... so super excited I found this tutorial. So detailed that I'm thinking I can do this! Wow - does make a difference with the red! Who knew? Thanks!ReplyDelete
just a question... once you sew all of your rows together do you press that seam open or alternate up and downs? Thanks!ReplyDelete
Great question! I press the seams all one direction.Delete
This is probably a silly question, but when you are piecing do you back stitch? I have done a lot of sewing, but I have never quilted before.ReplyDelete
This is probably a silly question, but when you are piecing do you back stitch? I have done a lot of sewing, but I have never quilted before.ReplyDelete
I found your quilting tutorial because I wanted to try my first quilt. I'm due with our second kid in June. Our first got six lovely hand made quilts; and I know there is no way the second will be gifted so many. I decided to go with a charm pack to save time. I'm also doing this all by hand as we don't have a sewing machine. I'm almost done with the quilt top. It's exciting to see it all come together. I'm already starting to imagine my next quilt.ReplyDelete
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Published on April 25th, 2012 | by Jules IKEAHacker13
Shoji screen from Molger Bench
Materials: MOLGER BENCH, screws and other fasteners
Description: The wonderful 4×8 foot shower in my new house has 12 linear feet of window with a low sill that looks directly into an adjent park. If I had just frosted the glass, I'd be still have rather provocative shadows on the shades when I bathed.
In needed something more opaque, but that would still admit light. Something with an Asian sensibility.
My colleague/carpenter, Joe Kilbourne, and I took the latticed shelves from three Molger benches, spliced them together, attached short sections of the nifty legs with plastic feet to keep panels out of the damp. I did have the glass frosted behind the Molger lattice, which advances the Shoji motif.
Drilled holes in the ends of panels fit over stainless steel pegs epoxied in place on the end walls to prevent over turning. To remove, I can just shift panels from side to side and remove. The end window opens; I can rotate the short section upward to operate the window controls.
And, in the end, we had enough length of shelves to assemble a shorter bench that sits nicely in the shower.
~ Lynn Perkins, Seattle, WA
13 Responses to Shoji screen from Molger Bench
Love the elegant (Asian/Scandinavian?) look of this unusual solution to a common problem. The Molger fits really well into the clean lines of the shower. I also like, how the legs act as spacers, giving the whole thing a light and airy look. Very elegant and creative hack!
Awesome design..
Pretty. Plus, I want your shower. I have a bath tub shower. No cool bench there!
Very elegant & looks origianl to the design.
But for those of you for whom this solution wouldn't work, you can also attach frosting film to the glass. It adheres using water and can be removed handy if you're renting.
idk why there is even the necessity to block out this beautiful view?
There is a very apparent reason; not wanting people in the park to be able to look in at you while you're showering.
I think he is referring to th view FROM the park because the other was as you said Apparent!
I love the solution, but do wonder why the problem arose . . . "I am an architect, I am going to design a house with a bathroom that overlooks a public park, I know, I'll put in a big clear window so people cn see in"?????
It all depends on what came first: The house or the public park.
Very cool idea. I love it!
Very clever and stylish. Cool!
How do you feel about strangers as houseguests?–Namely, me!
Looks so gorgeous and tranquil!
I love this hack! it solves a problem in quite a beautiful way!


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In the blizzard of 1888, the streets disappeared and the snow came down almost horizontally. Imagine being trapped at work, several miles from your home. This was the plight experienced by thousands of New Yorkers (and others throughout the northeast) that Monday. (Library of Congress)
PODCAST This year is the 125th anniversary of one of the worst storms to ever wreak havoc upon New York City, the now-legendary mix of wind and snow called the Great Blizzard of 1888.
Its memory was again conjured up a few months ago as people struggled to compare Hurricane Sandy with some devastating event in New York's past. And indeed, the Blizzard and Sandy have several disturbing similarities. But the battering snow-hurricane of 1888, with freezing temperatures and drifts three stories high, was made worse by the condition of New York's transportation and communication systems, all completely unprepared for 36 hours of continual snow.
Elevated trains were frozen in place, their passengers unable to get out for hours. Many died simply trying to make their way back home on foot, including Roscoe Conkling (at right), a power broker of New York's Republican Party.
But there were moments of amusement too. Saloons thrived, and actors trudged through to the snow in time for their performances, And for P.T. Barnum, the show must always go on!
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Why did the 1888 blizzard become such a hazard for New Yorkers? Let this picture be your first clue. The city was a cobweb of elevated telegraph, telephone and electric wires. This picture is from 1887. (LOC)
One example of a terrible (although minor) snow drift that might have kept this family in their home all day. Because of the unpredictable changes in wind, some houses might have been drift-free, while others close by completely locked in with snow. (LOC)
George Washington at the Sub-Treasury Building (today Federal Hall). I ran this photo a few weeks ago, but it's so bizarre that I think it needs a second posting.
The Brooklyn Bridge, not even five years old, weathered the winds quite well, but became a hazard due to ice. In this picture, people are crossing over as there was no other way to get between Manhattan and Brooklyn. It's not clear if any of the trains are operating in this picture.
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Henry Bergh, founder of the American Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals. He did not survive the blizzard. (NYHS)
Transportation in and out of the city was at a complete standstill for half the week. Here workers frantically try to clear the way for trains going into Grand Central Depot.


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Beautiful light colors, fabulous! This light colored cowhide rug is beautiful if you are looking for a monotone color without much pattern. Using under our coffee table in an area without much traffic to protect it. This was a great price too... other places were selling smaller versions for more than double the price. Just hoping more will be in stock soon because we would like to order another! November 12, 2011
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