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Far Cry 3 is an impressive looking game but even in our single GPU results you can see there is a bit of a problem on both vendors cards. Not only do the GTX 680, GTX 690 and the GTX TITAN perform nearly identical in the raw average frame rate, but there is a LOT of frame variance in our time graph. The times do NOT create a nice tight line as we would like to see (and did see on BF3) and the frame stuttering is very apparent in the game as well.
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The same patterns are really seen here though this time, but the Radeon HD 7970 GHz Edition and GTX 680 do fall a bit further behind the GTX 690 and GTX TITAN in average frame rate. Also, when you look at the percentile graph you can see that the HD 7970 has a big variance as we move to the 95th and 99th results - indicating an unacceptable amount of frametime variance.
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As you said on TWiCH AMD wasn't to happy with these results. I would expect that bit of an understatement. They made claims the 7970 Ghz was the fastest gpu on the market for a while, This new testing method kinda casts a major shadow on that claim if they are using so many "runt frames" to boost fps score's
As I understand it, the runt frames were a crossfire characteristic. The single GPU setup was fine.
This is all very interesting stuff about the frame rate analysis.
It seems to be the case that frame rate variance reduces as you test at more gpu intensive settings.
This suggests to me that the variance is being caused by cpu bottle necking. Amd's set up would appear to be more sensitive to these cpu bottle necks than nvidia's.
This also explains how the temporary fix of limiting the max frame rate on Amd set ups works as it is preventing rapid frame rates from causing cpu bottle necks.
Was wondering what clock speed the test platforms 3960 was running at and it you have tested how this frame time variance is affected by different cpu clock speeds?
This makes a lot of sense as (IIRC) a while back AMD actively pursued higher CPU utilization to lighten the GPU load and better balance to system resource utilization. Being more sensitive to CPU hiccups would be an undesirable side effect of such a pursuit.
Zoomed FRAPS frame time graph is not labeled properly.
Great review btw, specifically the page before the last.
Seriously? You're still doing this? Can you please give me one reason, just ONE reason, as to why I would want to play a game without Vsync and Triple Buffering? Because that is the only, and I repeat, the ONLY situation in which your "novel" and "state-of-the-art" method of benchmarking VGAs would be relevant to an actual real-life scenario. I'd nominate you for a Nobel prize if you do.
A little aggressive considering the topic, maybe?
Competitive multi-player games. Triple buffered vsync introduces significant amounts of input latency. Enough to detect in a blind test, and certainly way more than any display or input device a gamer would be likely to use.
This might not matter to you, but it does to plenty of other PC gamers. I found this article to be extremely valuable.
I kind of agree on Vsync, but frame buffering, probably not:
"1. If it is not properly supported by the game in question, it can cause visual glitches. Just as tearing is a visual glitch caused by information being transferred too fast in the buffers for the monitor to keep up, so too in theory, can triple buffering cause visual anomalies, due to game timing issues for example.
2. It uses additional Video RAM, and hence can result in problems for those with less VRAM onboard their graphics card. This is particularly true for people who also want to use very high resolutions with high quality textures and additional effects like Antialiasing and Anisotropic Filtering, since this takes up even more VRAM for each frame. Enabling Triple Buffering on a card without sufficient VRAM results in things like additional hitching (slight pauses) when new textures are being swapped into and out of VRAM as you move into new areas of a game. You may even get an overall performance drop due to the extra processing on the graphics card for the extra Tertiary buffer.
3. It can introduce control lag. This manifests itself as a noticeable lag between when you issue a command to your PC and the effects of it being shown on screen. This may be primarily due to the nature of VSync itself and/or some systems being low on Video RAM due to the extra memory overhead of Triple Buffering."
All valid points, but the question remains.
Does turning Vsync ON, fixes CF presenting issues.
If it does, is the performance of Vsycned CF in line when compared to Vsync OFF results.
Also does the system exhibits frame skipping like with RadeonPro "smoothing"?
And I'm not asking specifically about CF alone, but SLI and single GPUs also.
Testing with VSync would "optimize" the video output on either vendor. So, maybe if you did an article with it on and base it as a "quality" type of test.
Both cards would be outputting as best they could with the monitor output being as optimized as it can be in terms of timing the frames. Compare the high end cards on 10 or so games, and it gives you an idea of which vendor has the best "quality" of game.
As far as GPU testing, I wouldn't want to see it. I would want the game to run and output as much frames as possible with everything turned on, check the times, and see how bad the timing gets.
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Why nobody is testing game performance with vsync ON?
Because vsync sucks, limits framerate and increases latency. Triple buffering even more so.
Vsync is the easy way to avoid getting set up correctly.
"For 1920x1080 gaming there is no reason to own a $999 GPU and definitely not this one."
That line is debatable, and all depends on how you game. I spend a lot of time with heavily modified Skyrim and that game gives my 7970 GHz a run for its money at 1080p. One particular setup I use (mainly for screenshots) kills that card, frequently averaging at 30fps.
This is shared in the Crysis 3 graph. Even the Titan struggles to max that game out at 1080p.
There certainly are reasons to own a Titan for 1080p gaming, provided you have the coin.
I am really liking the new charts and all except it is a little hard to read the names of the cards on the frametime charts. Would be nice to have a little bit of a larger font on those.
Well done
That's what I always say there is a problem on graphics cards that No transfers true FPS
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If you test a card such this without using 3 hd screens you (in my opinion) missed the point.
What about GPGPU benchmarks? Is that still coming, or did I miss the article with them? But, thanks for the review!
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I really don't understand the point of this card. I get it, it has lots of cores, but that isn't really reflected in any normal use. It would make sense for CAD type application, rendering video with GPU acceleration, folding, etc. As far as useability, it just seems like $1k of graphic card made for having a LOT of VRAM for high resolutions, but the price sort of makes it not "worth" that.
If I was reading the specs, comparing them to the 680/7970 and looking at those prices, I would find it really hard to justify the difference if you weren't looking at VRAM. Architecturally it has more "stuff", but isn't really a major shift.
680: 1536 cores @ 1000 MHz
Titan: 2688 cores @ 836-876 MHz
That gives you the same, less, or 10-20 AVG FPS more based on the charts (sleeping dogs being the example of above, dirt 3 isn't worth discussing because f/r is so high on these cards).
I don't really know where I'm going with this, but hopefully some amount of a point has come across. What on earth is this card for?
Ryan: Side note, is it possible to add a Blu-Ray or HD video render test with GPU acceleration on your benchmarks? It seems like something worthwhile to demonstrate when you having something like this where the product may be meant for uses other than gaming.
I just didn't see this the same at all. The 680 vs the Titan isn't even close. Other than being "single GPU", they aren't even in the same class.
This card brings a LOT of different stuff to the table, such as the new GPU boost, focus on acoustics (if that is your thing), and temp control. I thought the 690 was a big breakthrough, but the Titan probably impressed me more than the 690 did on release.
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It depends on the game, but like I said earlier, it isn't about gaming performance at all. From what Ryan said on tekzilla the main point of titan is the actual physical issues behind it's fabrication and how THAT will be a big thing for the future of hardware or gives some insight or something.
I think it would be really interesting to see some BD decode testing.
Definitely the best Titan review out the PCPER! Excellent job guys! Frame Time analysis is invaluable!!!
What did you have your 3960X clocked at for benchmarks?
Wondering about Titan SLI scaling.....
Ryan can you please review frame-times in BF3 @ 5760x1080 with Titan, SLI, & 3-way SLI.
My currents 670s stutter with MSAA turned on even though vram not close to max.
Your frame-time review will be the determining factor if i get the Titans or not.
Wow - seems this site got big money from nvidia !
Did the same test they did and had no differences in framerate whatsoever for amd cf.
If you want to call me biased - go right ahead - I have pcs with nvd cards and pcs with amd cards - I don't care about the manufacturer, I only care about bang for the buck and titan is a huge bust - two 7970s (680$) outperform a titan (1000$), so for me there is no question about what to get.
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Maria Teresa Hosse is the director of the Center for Andean Communication and Development (CENDA). Audacious and outspoken, Hosse explains climate change as the result of a fundamental loss of relationship to the Earth. At a climate change meeting in La Paz last December, Hosse spoke about capitalism as the root of the rupture between humans and the environment. She has been working with climate change adaptation in Bolivia for more than 20 years, and she moved easily around the conference, chatting casually to community organizers and U.N. representatives alike. "The most important thing about the Andean culture is that it doesn't demand individualism; in fact it's more important to be part of a community," she says. "It doesn't pursue profit, it's much more important to vivir bien."
The concept of vivir bien (live well) defines the current climate change movement in Bolivia. The concept is usually contrasted with the capitalist entreaty to vivir mejor (live better). Proponents argue that living well means having all basic needs met while existing in harmony with the natural world; living better seeks to constantly amass materials goods at the expense of the environment.
The concept of vivir bien is gaining momentum as communities and social activists across Bolivia are meeting to talk about climate change. The underlying conviction is that climate change is caused by an absence of communication between society and nature. Many groups emphasize what they see as ancient Andean sensibilities—they propose a resurgence of communitarian-based consciousness with regard to resource consumption.
"From the Andean perspective of the cosmos, Illimani is a representation," Javier Villegas, a member of the national indigenous organization CONOMAQ (National Council of Ayllus and Markas of the Qullasusyu) says. He explains the significance of glaciers: "It's an Apu, a deity; a big being that is there that we respect. It is like a god to us."
Javier is sitting with Felix Iarme Poma, an indigenous community leader from the Cochabamba valley, and they fidget as they try to articulate what pachamama, usually translated as "Mother Earth," actually means. Their discomfort seems akin to how a Catholic might feel if pressed to define the soul. Felix, wearing a bright hand-woven poncho and a hat adorned with a burst of colorful flowers, explains that paying respect to the Earth is fundamentally important to ensuring a sustainable future: "For example, to do the planting, we give respect to the pachamama, to our wakas [places in nature that are considered sacred]. It's so that forever—for the people that produce—the rains will come through our mountains."
CONAMAQ and other national indigenous groups have drafted statements that demand recognition of the rights of pachamama. They are trying to incorporate traditional lifestyle models into national sustainability strategies. They believe that protecting the ability to vivir bien is a more compelling call to action than scientific data.
In Khapi, many of the younger community members are moving to the cities of La Paz or El Alto in search of work. They are anxious about the prospects for their village as the water supply dwindles and uncertainty abounds. Don Max is one of the elders of Khapi, and his voice breaks as talks about the future: "Now what water will we use to take care of our crops? With what will we live? And our children, with what? That's why they've gone to the cities—our children have gone."
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Evo Morales is positioning himself to become a climate hero on behalf of the global South. The first indigenous president of Bolivia—who is usually clad in an embroidered blazer and who is committed to honoring ancient customs with state pomp—received the title "World Hero of Mother Earth" from the United Nations General Assembly last October.
In a time of global climate defeatism, the Morales administration is now setting its sights on establishing Bolivia as a forum for alternative approaches to developing climate change solutions. To that end, Morales recently announced a people's climate conference to take place in Bolivia in April.
"For us, it's the vivir mejor model that has failed: the model of unlimited development, of industrialization without borders, of modernity that devalues history," Morales declared in November 2008. At last year's climate change summit in Copenhagen, Bolivia was one of five countries that declined to sign the concluding statement. The government's objection, announced by Bolivia's U.N. ambassador Pablo Solon, was that rich, industrialized nations had put together an agreement without consulting leaders from the rest of the world. In an interview with Democracy Now! in Copenhagen, Morales asked, "If the leaders of countries cannot come to an agreement, why don't the peoples then decide together?"
Shortly afterward, he announced an alternative summit, officially titled the First World Conference of the People on Climate Change and the Rights of the Mother Earth.
No Fairness, No Deal
Equity is the only way to break the climate stalemate between the global South and the North.
Among Bolivia's demands are the establishment of an international climate justice tribunal, a global referendum on mitigation strategies, and the ratification of legal rights for the pachamama. Bolivia also demands that the international community recognize a historic climate debt owed by industrialized countries to developing countries. (In 2000, a recent Oxfam report notes, Bolivia was responsible for 0.35 percent of global greenhouse gas emissions, compared to the United States' 16 percent and the European Union's 12 percent.)
But Morales faces a confounding paradox in one of the poorest countries of the Western hemisphere, where 65 percent of the population lives in poverty: Should the government exploit the country's abundant natural resources for the sake of economic development or maintain those resources in the name of sustainability? Marcos Nordgren, a climate change policy expert at the Center for Research and Promotion of the Peasantry (CIPCA) is wary of many national development schemes: resource exploitation, he explains, is equally damaging whether managed by a multinational corporation or a government.
Many around the world laud Morales for his anti-capitalist rhetoric and apparent commitment to protecting the environment; for many, his inauguration as a U.N. climate hero cemented him as a beacon of hope. Meanwhile, many Bolivian environmentalists remain skeptical of government plans for development, and it is unclear whether Bolivia will escape its history of unsustainable resource exploitation.
But the deeper question is whether a government can catalyze a movement that is fundamentally grassroots or, indeed, whether it ought to try.
Khapi's Future
In Khapi, Alvio and other community leaders had been asked to discuss their trips to international climate conferences with members of visiting organizations. Khapi has recently received attention in media and climate circles as a bleak augur of the effects of glacial melt. Khapi residents say that Illimani will be gone in 15 to 40 years. They believe that they can continue to survive here, but only with the assistance of international organizations or the government. Otherwise, they say, their way of life is gone.
As the sun slowly set over the snow-capped ridge, Don Alivio began to recount his experience at a conference in Sweden. Gesturing profusely, he resorted to Spanish when Aymara, the indigenous language spoken in Khapi, failed to adequately illustrate his thoughts. Arms waving, he described a Swedish supermarket in detail. He mimed a cash register for his listeners, his presentation dotted with Spanish words: "robot," "highly developed," and "automatic."
As we left, my Danish colleague turned to me in astonishment. "That's my world he's talking about," he said. It's mine too.
We left Khapi early in the evening. It was understood from the beginning that the visit had to be short; later that night an important ritual was taking place. Four men were to partially scale the craggy face of Illimani to make an offering to the glacier. They would play music and ask for a good season. Then the men would file down, as the sun rose, to be greeted by their community.
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PENNSYLVANIA -- My complaint concerns the visual image of the Hershey M&M trying to prevent itself from being placed into an oven! I find the visual image to be quite disturbing. The background music/audio is saying something about all for love...and then you see the Hershey M&M yelling and holding on so as not to be placed into an oven.
If you Google "child placed into oven" or "woman places child in oven"...you will find that some children have suffered and some have died as a result. I was first made aware of such a sad story back in 1995...Chicago Tribune... a mother placed child in an oven in the school's cafeteria! The mental image has remained with me ever since I heard about it on the evening news!
I think this commercial should be pulled...it's too disturbing...especially when you can see and hear the M&M screaming and trying not to be placed in the oven.
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madconsumer on 05/06/2013:
sadly, this is the same as with hansel and gretel. or for this matter, any cartoon on the tele.
Chaparrita on 05/06/2013:
It's not a child being placed into an oven. It's a cartoon M and M. There's a huge difference. It's supposed to be funny. Not cruel.
FoDaddy19 on 05/07/2013:
It's a cartoon, not a person. And anyway, M and M's are made by Mars not Hershey, this complaint is directed at the wrong company.
Snickers on 06/08/2013:
M and M commercials are offensive, suggestive and totally inappropriate.
bj on 06/16/2013:
I find the m and m commercials disturbing...they humanize the candy and then try to put it in an oven or get eaten by a beautiful girl. .its like a horror movie each time I see one of them. It really affects me and gives me chills.
jaymo on 06/22/2013:
I don't approve of the sexual nature of the M and M commercials
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Shrinking Reese's Cups in Old Packaging!
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HERSHEY, PENNSYLVANIA -- What the ... !!!!
Either my hands have grown to Hulk proportions, or Reese's is cutting back on the size of their peanut butter cups! These have long been my favorite! But, I feel I'm getting 50% less candy. What is behind the dramatic reduduction in the size? For heavens sake ... increase the price, but don't deceive the public with the regular, normal packaging, with a tiny peanut butter cup inside! This is over the top! My family, my friends, and my associates all know Reese's is my favorite, and will often "bless" me with one, but I'm honestly considering Another favorite.
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MRM on 06/27/2012:
I love Reeses and I, too, would be disappointed if the portions has decreased. Write to the company and they'll make it right.
PS: 3 days left till commununity forum is back online! Yahooo!!!
trmn8r on 06/27/2012:
Look around - this is happening everywhere. I beg to differ with the previous reply, but this is not likely to be reversed, and I doubt they will "make it right". It's just a fact that costs have gone up - especially anything chocolate.
A trend recently is more companies are decreasing package contents in lieu of exclusively raising prices - I believe marketing studies show this is more favorably received by consumers. It may be a combination of some people not noticing and others being really really upset about paying $8 for a 1/2 gallon of ice cream (for example).
onlooker on 06/27/2012:
While I wish #1 would happen - I rather expect that #2 is more than likely. Pay more for the same, or pay the same for some. If one is pinched by the economy some is better than none....as is can not afford it. But do write and perhaps you will get a favorable response of some kind.
frak on 06/27/2012:
According to the Dead Caterpillar site, in 2003, a standard package of RPBC was 1.6 ounces/45 grams. By 2011, it was 1.5 ounces/42 grams (still that today).
NOTE: You can by a one pound package of RPBC (two 8 ouncers). Here's a link to a nearly 7 minute long video review of them. (I did not watch the entire review, lord.):
These might only be available around Christmas, but they are shown on the RPBC official site.
BigAl on 06/27/2012:
I plead guilty to being hooked on Reese Cups. A couple of months ago the price of peanut butter shyrocketed. Reeses answer was to make the "cups" smaller and they also packaged some of their selections in a smaller number (six instead of 8) It was a sad day for me. Good review!
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Charging the same price for less product
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Have seen ads on TV advertising Hershey's new Air Delight chocolate kisses. Bear in mind the ONLY difference is air is blown into the chocolate resulting in hundreds of air bubbles.
Being my usual cynical self I had to look at the economics. I went to Walmart and found the regular Hersey's kisses and the Air Delight version.
Both packages were $3.28. The regular was 12 ounces. The Air Delight was 9 ounces. These people are great at figuring out ways to get more money and giving the customer less.
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Anonymous on 01/05/2012:
Air is expensive!!
madconsumer on 01/05/2012:
this is smart retailing on Hershey's side.
Churro on 01/05/2012:
Chuck, you are indeed a savvy consumer. Awesome observation.
Slimjim on 01/05/2012:
From a marketing standpoint, it probably does more harm than good to price this version lower, hence raising questions why it is and then the whole perceived value thing takes over.
It's one heck of a brilliant idea and whoever thought of it should get a promotion.
Cwazychicken on 01/05/2012:
I didn't get the kisses of this product but tried the chocolate bar for about .69 cents per bar (cheap I would say considering gas stations ask about a dollar for a candy bar nowadays....these candy bars are really good. I love the fluffy texture and it satisfied my craving more than the normal hersheys bar did...I didn't eat nearly as much and it left my stomach wanting no more chocolate lol. Now I doubt I would buy the kisses of this brand, as I rarely buy bags of kisses for 3 dollars when I can get a cheap candy bar to satisfy my craving. Plus when I used to buy hershey kisses, I would eat a whole bag. LOL.
But if the kisses taste just like the candy bar, then I would assume you wouldn't need to eat as many to fill your chocolate craving up...because these air chocolates, if you eat enough of them, can give you a stomach ache.
Old Timer on 01/05/2012:
One of our local markets still packs their store brand ice cream and frozen yogurt in 1/2 gallon containers. You can really see the difference when they are sitting next to the downsized containers from the big brand names. And of course the store brand is just as good if not better than the brand names, for less money.
You can get two for $5 when they are on sale. One downsized brand name in a smaller container run $5 each. Just the way things are now. Charge more and give less.
Churro on 01/05/2012:
Kind of like Target's motto, "Pay more, expect less"
Anonymous on 01/05/2012:
(BA) churro, I hardly ever save money shopping at Target anymore, everything is overpriced there.
clutzycook on 01/05/2012:
Back in the old days, Hershey's would vary the size of their chocolate bars based on the price of cocoa. When it was cheap, the bars were big. When the prices were high, the bars were smaller. But the bars were always the same price regardless of size ( I'm not sure of the exact price, but I think it was somewhere in the vicinity of 15-25 cents).
Starlord on 01/05/2012:
Almost everything is in smaller packages for the same, if not more, money. We went to a Grocery Outlet and the ice cream we were getting 5 quarts for $4.99 is now one gallon for the same price. A very common practice. BTW, the new Cherry Cordial Kisses are fantastic!
Venice09 on 01/05/2012:
Chuck, that's exactly what I thought when I saw this product advertised on television!.. What a great way to make money by giving the customer less. Brilliant!
Molly76 on 01/06/2012:
Whipped chocolate? Isn't that what cans of chocolate frosting are for? Now, where's the spoon?
Ummm, maybe just one more bite!!
Anonymous on 01/07/2012:
Perhaps the cost of infusing air into the chocolate is a slightly more expensive method of producing that product, as opposed to the traditional kisses? It's not as though the kisses are a different flavor, swirl, and such. But they are actually made with a different process involved, and thus are probably going to be priced higher. The product comparison is apples to oranges from my point of view. It's two totally separate products...not just two separate flavors. I see no problem with justifying their price. JMHO
Anonymous on 01/07/2012:
Then again...I'm no chocolatier, and maybe there is no difference in the cost of making the product? Nice review and observation though.
chrissiann on 01/25/2012:
I agree. When I saw that commercial, my fiance and I both said that they are just trying to include less product in their packages! I cannot imagine how a few air bubbles will make it taste better.
JaeFae on 01/26/2012:
I'm not sure people are getting the jist of writer's comments. It's not the 'quality' of the product he's discussing, but the 'quantity.' It's just not Hersey's that's packaging everything smaller and charging the same [$3.98 for 9oz vs $3.98 for 12oz], it's EVERYTHING being produced. Candy, toothpaste, medicines, cereal, baked goods, and on and on. Oh it's a great marketing tool all right, it's just that like my pocketbook...is the same,but the $$$ is smaller. So, NO, I do not think this is a great idea and the only person it is good for is the CEO who gets to buy more little goodies for his spoiled self...I bet his employee's didn't see any raise again this year.
Lala on 03/08/2012:
They have also started selling 6 "no fun" size candy bars for $1.29 at walmart when an 8 pack used to be $1.00. Luckily, I don't eat chocolate a lot but this truly is sneaky and greedy because most people buy these packs when either they can't really afford a lot of candy or when they are needing it for parties, gifts, etc. and are buying a lot. I'm sure they weren't going under because they were giving two more fun size candy bars in their packs.
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Worm in a Hershey chocolate miniature
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My wife is a chocoholic and insists on Hershey produces until.........After tearing off the aluminum wropper she saw a worm or rather 1/2 a worm as the other half was drilling into the chocolate. Needless to say that was the last Hershey product she will ever buy but what confuses me is how does a worm get into the chocolate before it is wrapped in foil? Like what kind of quality control is employed? Where are all the snazzy cameras and computers that are supposed to eliminate contaminates from food?
I mean this was a tan worm about 3/32" in diameter and 5/8" long. When Hershey became aware of the worm problem they offered to send $25.00 to offset my concern! $25.00? Give me a break!
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saj80 on 09/14/2009:
Another compromise when Hershey decided to send the majority of their production facilities to Mexico, where quality control is substandard.
skelly39 on 09/14/2009:
Did she eat it? No. Things happen. Yes, it is totally disgusting and would probably put me off my chocolate for a while, but give me a break. You are not entitled to hundreds, thousands or millions of dollars. You are entitled to your purchase price, and it sounds like they are paying 10x that. Take it and move on.
Skye on 09/14/2009:
It happens. Worms do end up not being processed enough, and end up alive, in our foods. I know its gross, but that's just the way it is. There is always amounts of insects and other "things" that get processed into our foods. The government actually has a certain acceptable percentage.
I thought it was nice they offered $25.00. Your wife didn't become ill, just disgusted.
Anonymous on 09/14/2009:
25 bucks is generous IMO.
Anonymous on 09/14/2009:
Considering you didn't pay $25 bucks for the package and she didn't actually eat the worm filled chocolate... that's quite generous.
Eloise on 09/14/2009:
I wonder how much money the OP thought was fair compensation for his wife's suffering?
andbran on 09/14/2009:
since its a 1 in a million chance that will ever happen again I would have taken the 25 dollars. I also love hersheys and have yet to get a "prize"
Skye on 09/14/2009:
I also love Hershey's, especially almond Cadbury bars.
Skye on 09/14/2009:
Maybe the OP, expected a big pay day, and feels $25.00 is very cheap.
Anonymous on 09/14/2009:
Mmmmm... I want a hershey bar now, darn it.
Anonymous on 09/14/2009:
There is bug content in all of our foods. Don't Google cereal and bug content' unless you feel the need to barf a little-the FDA allows a certain percentage of bugs in food. That would have made me totally sick to see a worm in my food-a fly probably landed and laid an egg or something. *shudder*
Anonymous on 09/14/2009:
After experiencing "dorm" food, nothing phases me when it comes to bugs and food.
Anonymous on 09/14/2009:
$25.00 was fair, did you want a million dollars?
Anonymous on 09/14/2009:
For all you know, it's the worms in the chocolate that your wife loves so much. It's a shame she had to actually see one....
Anonymous on 09/14/2009:
I love the three Hershey ads nested in the OP comment.... Google's Going to Git Ya!
Anonymous on 09/14/2009:
I love the three Hershey ads nested in the OP comment.... Google's Going to Git Ya!
Anonymous on 09/14/2009:
Mundo, while you make a valid point about the guy's wife having a thing for extra protein in her "Kisses" it's not about her, it is about the _________!
Anonymous on 09/14/2009:
That's right, zz! (It took me a moment to fill in the blank. When you mentioned protein, I started thinking about various ways she could have swallowed it.)
CrazyRedHead on 09/15/2009:
You got some protein with your chocolate. Protein does the body good.
Sraah1979 on 11/20/2009:
This happened to me too!! I purchased a Hershey's Symphony at a Walgreens last night. I went home, and opened it an hour later, ate a bite - and at least 50 bugs came crawling out! My fiance took a closer look at the bar and there were also worms in the product. We checked the expiration and sure enough, it expired in August 2009. Although, I don't understand how there could be so many bugs and worms after just three months of expiration.
I called Hershey and they said that infestation occurs when the prodcuts are not stored properly. First they offered me a replacement candy bar and 2 coupons for 2 more f4ree candy brs. I declined. So then they said they were authorized to offer me $25, and I should be receiving that check in the mail within the next 7-10 days.
Being a lawyer myself (and a personal injury lawyer at that), I assume that the check will come with a letter that says something along the lines of "by cashing this check, you are releaseing Hershey from all liability relating to the product" or something like that.
I agree with the other commnetators - $25 is probably reasonable compensation. I actually ate some of the candy, and the bugs, which was especially disgusting being that I am a 22 year vegetarian. But, other than the initial throw up, I did not require any medical care and I'm not traumatized. Lawsuits over such small things would cost more than most people wioll ever recover, unless of course you become incredibly ill.
Let's take our $25 and move on
Anonymous on 11/20/2009:
that's odd. I also bought a Hershey's symphony at a Walgreens last night and at least 85 bugs came crawling out. mine had worms too and the expiration was sept 2009.
Anonymous on 11/20/2009:
King: Pictures?
JR in Orlando on 11/20/2009:
Was there any extra cost for the additional protein? For most people,(who need to lose weight) finding a bug in chocolate could be said to be "God doing for use what we could not do for ourselves." That bug saved you from lots of extra calories.
Joyce Osbornh Wilson on 10/19/2014:
This is my second experience with raisins......found boxes full of maggots in Kellogg's Raisin Brand Cereal - several years ago, then this week I found my Great Value Raisins were full of maggots and one fly has hatched out.......In researching I have noticed maggots to be a problem in other items contains raisins.........guess this means I will stop again eating raisins.
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Larva in our kisses
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PENNSYLVANIA -- I bought 2 bags of spring time kisses for my children's Easter baskets. My daughter came to me with one and it had worms in it! We checked and found some in the other kisses. Hershey said it wasn't their fault. They said it was poor shipping or/and storage that caused it. I was told to contact the store I bought them from. I will never buy chocolate manufactured by Hershey.
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This is great ice cream if you can find it. Only my local convience store carries it and half the time they are out of it. But if you can find it definitely give it a try.
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GenuineNerd on 02/13/2011:
Note: Hershey's Ice Cream is not connected to Hershey's Chocolate. Two different companies. Hershey's does make good ice cream, but the only places I've seen it are at mom-and-pop convenience stores and grocers. Hardee's also serves Hershey's Ice Cream, and Hershey's does have a few ice cream shops. Lastly, Hershey's Ice Cream is one of the last ice cream companies that still packs its products in full pints and half gallons.
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Horrible Bitter Taste
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We purchased a bottle of Hershey's Sugar Free chocolate syrup. The label states 'Genuine Chocolate Flavor.' We each had a small bowl of vanilla ice cream with chocolate syrup. All of us noted a very bitter taste that did not taste at all like chocolate. We have used Hershey's Syrup for years, and until this bottle, we have been pleased with the product. We believe the formulation of the syrup caused the off taste. In the future, we will buy the regular chocolate syrup. The small amount of calories the syrup will add to a dish of ice cream is negligible, and chocolate syrup is fat free anyway. The expiration date on the bottle is August of 2010.
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Anonymous on 01/26/2010:
Not me, LS. I'm a vegetarian. ;) I wonder if it is not the first bottle of the sugar free kind that the OP bought and THIS one is nasty, or if it is, and she is comparing it to the regular kind. If it is a comparison, no, it never tastes as good. However, the review doesn't say.
GenuineNerd on 01/26/2010:
Also, many sugar free chocolate products contain sorbitol, which, if consumed in large amounts, may cause diarrhea. I've had the sugar free chocolate syrup as well, and it is more bitter than the regular Hershey's syrup. Basically, if you want to avoid the "Hershey Squirts", don't squirt Hershey's Sugar Free Chocolate Syrup on your ice cream in large amounts.
Starlord on 01/26/2010:
Lady, I have eaten bittersweet chocolate and love it. This tasted nothing like any chocolate I have ever eaten. Genuine, I agree, I am familiar with sorbitol, both the sweetener and the medication. I think maybe they used the medication in the syrup. LOL Sherdy, I have been posting here long enough, you should know I am a man. The lord part of my nic should be a tipoff. Star does not necessarily indicate a woman. My wife got a kick out of it.
MissMae on 01/26/2010:
Great review, Starlord..I love how companies try to fool us by saying their lowfat or sugar free stuff tastes JUST like the regular stuff. Yea..right! I haven't tried sugar free syrup but it shouldn't have tasted bitter like that.
I'm with you...use the real stuff and don't worry about those few extra calories. ;)
Anonymous on 01/26/2010:
To me all artificial sweeteners have an unpleasant/bitter aftertaste.
M-Mae, what if a person can't consume sugar due to health issues?
MissMae on 01/26/2010:
Good point, ZZ..I don't know, add some splenda?
Anonymous on 01/26/2010:
Star, thanks for clarifying. I haven't tried it, but I DO love the Hershey's dark chocolate syrup. Yummy!
Nohandle on 01/26/2010:
Nice review Starlord and informative for those who want to give the product a try. I'm with ZZ, any artificial sweetener product leaves a bitter after taste in my mouth. I can spot a diet drink at first sip. I've known some who absolutely love diet drinks, perhaps because they are accustomed to them or just developed a taste for them. I don't know which.
Anonymous on 01/26/2010:
For some reason, I prefer powdered chocolate mix on ice cream, such as Nesquik
Venice09 on 01/26/2010:
LS, Hershey's dark chocolate syrup is excellent. It's not as as sweet as the regular, but a lot richer.
Littleyaya, powered mix on ice cream? That's an interesting choice. Does the mix melt or make the ice cream gritty? I'm going to try that.
I never tried sugar free Hershey's syrup, but I can't imagine it being any good.
Anonymous on 01/26/2010:
It makes the ice cream gritty if you don't mix it in. I haven't done that in years, as I cannot have ice cream anymore
CrystalSword on 01/26/2010:
That sugar-free syrup is awful, nasty tasting stuff....I didn't see Splenda on the label but at least it didn't have aspartame, which Star and I do not tolerate well at all. Payday I want to get him some of the Special Dark syrup...he loves the candy bars made with that.
Even our room mate said that the sugar-free stuff was bad enough in milk that she just dumped it out after tasting it!! Now, that it pretty bad!
Anonymous on 01/26/2010:
Crystal, that is the one I was talking about, the special dark. That is my favorite candy bar and I only eat dark chocolate. ya'll should try some of the dark chocolate with chili peppers in it....yummy.
GenuineNerd on 01/27/2010:
I like the powdered drink mix (chocolate or strawberry Nesquik) on my ice cream as well. Gives it a unique flavor.
I LOVE Hershey's Special Dark (both the chocolate bars and the syrup.) A rich, bold taste. Special Dark is sweetened with sugar. The OP was referring to sugar free chocolate syrup. Unsweetened baking chocolate has no sugar or sweeteners in it, and has a bitter taste if eaten straight. Hershey's and others also make sugar free chocolate bars and chocolate candies, which are sweetened with sorbitol, mannitol, or other "sugar alcohols", which do cause diarrhea if eaten in large amounts.
GenuineNerd on 01/30/2010:
Lastly, if you ARE constipated, a sugar free chocolate bar or pieces of sugar free chocolate candy, or ice cream with Hershey's sugar free chocolate syrup, would be more satisfying, and more chocolatey, than a tiny piece of Ex-Lax.
Anonymous on 01/30/2010:
Oh my GOSH! I didn't even notice it was yours, SL, dearest! My humble *bows head in shame* apology. Sometimes I can be a ditz. I hope you got better chocolate. Chocolate can change the world.
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I didn't find and elephant in my REESE'S bag...so where did my peanut butter go?
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HERSHEY, PENNSYLVANIA -- I bought a bag of festively wrapped Reese's peanut butter cups for the holidays, and enjoyed with co-workers at my dental office, where we have always been crazy about chocolate like most others in our field. (dental co-horts, you know it's true!) Until, I unwrapped one little gem that seemed deficient in size, but I thought no further about it until taking a bite. There was NO peanut butter in the middle... at all, which made it just about stone solid AND I almost broke a tooth on it! I found NO ELEPHANT in the bag, so it has to be faulty production line of some sort. I have long been a fan of chocolate, preferring Hershey's over Lindt AND Nestle's! Frustrating that I couldn't even FIND a place to voice my concern or get my money back from Hershey's... I came to this site. Now when I recommend chocolate as the best sweet for my patients to snack on (since it melts and doesn't stick to teeth so there is less cariogenic effects) I will be sure to advise NO REESE's CUPS or HERSHEYS PRODUCTS since they apparently don't care if consumers are satisfied or not. Shame on you Hershey's.
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Anonymous on 12/15/2009:
"Until, I unwrapped one little gem that seemed deficient in size"
Was it that one lone piece or were all of them like that?
Did you check the rest of the bag?
Anonymous on 12/15/2009:
Contact them here:
msnanny on 12/15/2009:
One bad piece? Hardly worth getting so worked up over is it?
Anonymous on 12/15/2009:
My co-worker brought in some mini Snickers to work yesterday. I grabbed one and noticed it was half the size of the normal fun sized peices. Did I let it ruin my day? Nope, I grabbed another Snickers and gave the small one to another co-worker. He laughed about it and thought it was funny
Slimjim on 12/15/2009:
Isn't the problem with chocolate the sugar? So the chocolate melts, the sugar doesn't and I would think, stays on teeth with any other residue from these teeth-healthy nuggets. Most in the dental field I know tend to recommend APPLES and such, but hey, who am I to question the validity of a review about one bite size candy "not stacking up"
Where's SuperBiz's expertise when you need him.
Class Advocate on 12/15/2009:
Best solution: Keep eating from the same bag until you find one you are happy with.
redmx3racer on 12/15/2009:
I've never had a dentist tell me to eat chocolate. The only candy they ever told me was OK is the sugar free stuff. I guess telling your patients to eat candy is a good way to get some extra business.....
Anonymous on 12/15/2009:
Another one.
ONE piece made you this upset to write a complaint and to never recommend the candy again? You got bigger issues than that piece of non-peanut butter chocolate.
I would have eaten the chocolate, laughed about the missing peanut butter and went on eating the rest of the bag. Good grief.
Anonymous on 12/15/2009:
A very creative (and sly way) to drum up business for dentists, Jenny Craig and Bariatric Surgeons in your area. (NH)
Anonymous on 12/15/2009:
jeeze....I think about all the problems people have with companies and this person is upset over a piece of candy......lol how amusing....I kind of wish I was the OP.....seems like his biggest worry is chocolate.
Ytropious on 12/15/2009:
I think everyone who's ever eaten processed food has a story similar to this, where one rogue piece is completely different then the standard. It's not unusual, and certainly not worth complaining about. The elephant comment was humorous though, I'll give you that.
TGT101 on 12/15/2009:
It took me all of 5 seconds to find their contact information...
PepperElf on 12/15/2009:
at least you were in the right place to fix your tooth if it broke!
beanbagbritches on 12/16/2009:
How are elephants involved here? I'm not sure one would fit in a bag & if it could, why would you put an elephant in a bag? That seems cruel.
Starlord on 12/23/2009:
Elephants allegedly like peanuts. Old joke: How do you know if you are in bed with an elephant? By the faint odor of peanuts on his breath. 1HPY, you are making way too much of this. Look on the bag and you should find an 800 number. They are glad to hear from you and will probably send you coupons for several times the cost of the bag you are obsessing about.
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Worms In Your Candy Bars
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SACRAMENTO, CALIFORNIA -- Wow-you too!
I had purchased a Fruit & Nut Candy bar by Cadbury and also found worms...about 3/4 the way through. I was working in a dimly lit room and had eaten most of the bar, all the while thinking about the color of the nuts and how they were green (pistachio's)then I looked at the wrapper to see the ingredients were raisins and almonds, put my glasses on and gagged! Yep, lots of little green worms!!! The store manager of a Long's Drug store was with me at the time, he looked at the candy and he gagged also. The manager called the company and verified that the bars still had two month shelf life! Obviously they know about the worms and don't care about the consequences! Cadbury also did not apologize and downplayed the event, commenting about the stomach acid, etc..
Don't the Japanese eat ginger, to kill worms in Sushi? Class action suit anyone??? Oh, Cadbury offered to refund my purchase of $1.65.
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Anonymous on 03/11/2009:
Thank you for helping me with my diet. I no longer will be tempted by that beautiful little Hershey's bar calling my name from the grocery shelf. Nasty!
madconsumer on 03/11/2009:
did you contact the health department? or better yet the local fda? I bet the cdc in atlanta could help too.
GenuineNerd on 03/11/2009:
Was this an old-stock candy bar that was past its prime? I know that bugs and worms tend to get into food packages, especially grains, pastas, cereals, and anything made with sugar, like candy bars. Possibly the worms got in either at the store or at the warehouse where the candy was stored prior to shipment.
ejack053824 on 03/11/2009:
Mmmmmmmmmmm......adds flavor!
Anonymous on 03/11/2009:
I read an article recently about some foods that have bug parts in them intentionally, like for example the red "dye" used in some yogurts, it contains ground up dried insect parts called carmine or colchineal. Vegan organizations are demanding that manufacturers start labeling items like this in laymen's terms. I don't think I want to read the labels anymore!
L Lake on 03/12/2009:
I know that Hershey's now produces some of their products in Mexico. Could this be why there were worms?
Ben There on 03/12/2009:
The USA imports lots of food from Mexico... Just because they put a certain type of worm in tequila does not mean they have worms everywhere.
TGT101 on 03/12/2009:
There are bugs in everything that you eat. Did you know that the FDA has a level for the acceptable amount of maggots and other bugs companies can have in their pizza sauce?
Anonymous on 03/12/2009:
Exactly right TGT101. We've all eaten pounds of maggots, caterpillars, flies, and earthworms over our lifetimes. Eating kosher reduces the likelihood, but it doesn't eliminate it.
L Lake on 03/12/2009:
I think that after reading your bug comments that I'm going to be eating kosher from now one. At least my insect consumption will be down. LOL
Anonymous on 03/12/2009:
And to top off the gross factor this morning, the FDA also allows a certain percentage of insect 'waste matter' in our foods too, for canned fruit it's something like 2 parts per million. Eat up!
Anonymous on 03/12/2009:
If the FDA 'filth allowances' don't gross you out. You should read what is written about the average US city's drinking water. (BTW: I think this thread is becoming very unhealthy for those with OCD.)
old fart on 03/12/2009:
After 30 years in the pest control business, I developed a cast iron stomach when it came to food processing facilities...
I cannot count the times I inspected a grain or bean elevator with a cloud of angoumois grain moths flying about my ears, rat droppings crunching underfoot and other sundry critters making their home in the piles of grain..
My consolation to my self and others was that the grain was baked at 400 degrees or so before we ate it..
The conditions that were common in the abbatoirs I inspected were equally disgusting but not so much to make me into a vegan...
Anonymous on 03/12/2009:
Shelby,which Longs location is this? I will be sure to steer clear of it
Starlord on 03/12/2009:
Another person who thinks a class action lawsuit is a viable way to seek redress. Fine if you want to line a lawyer's pockets while members of the class get zip. BTW, the Japanese do not eat ginger to kill worms. Properly prepared sushi (sashimi, actually) contains no worms. The ginger is to clean the palate, much as wine testers eat crackers to clear the taste of the previous wine before introducing the next one. Our daughter refuses to use ketchup, as somone once told her the FDA allows so many parts per million of insect pieces in ketchup. I didn't have the heart to tell her that EVERY food has allowable levels of such material, because there is no way you can make it 100% free of those things. Oh, and kosher does not indicate freedom from any of this, it only means the food is prepared according strictly to Jewish dietary laws and is overseen by a rabbi.
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Sugar-free Cadbury Creme Eggs?
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I've been a diehard chocolate fan my entire life, and, unfortunately, I was diagnosed with type-2 diabetes not too long ago.
Now, I can still have chocolate, of course. There are some decent sugar-free varieties around.
However, one of my absolute favorite chocolate creations does not come in a sugar-free version, and, while I'm not sure it could be done, I figured I'd throw the idea out there anyway.
Here goes: Sugar-free Cadbury Creme Eggs!
Yep, one of the best chocolates on the planet needs to have a sugar-free option!
I know, I know. It's probably like asking for sugar-free Peeps...oh, wait.
They have those!
So, you see, it's not such an impossible dream after all!
Pretty please? With sugar (substitute) on top?
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Mrs. V on 03/24/2008:
My husband is a diabetic, also.
What I bought him was wonderful ^_^
They are the One Dozen Cadbury Mini Cream Eggs. One of them has only 8g of Total Carbohydrates. And they taste great and satisfies his craving for the Cadbruy Cream Eggs ^_^
Starlord on 03/24/2008:
I was diagnosed with Type 2 diabetes in 1997. I have not given up chocolate, and I don't go around looking for sugar-free chocolate version of my favorites. You need to get with your diabetes educator and go over the idea of exchanges again. When I want my chocolate, I eat my chaocolate. Of course, I may not eat bread with my next two meals, but htat is hte price to pay for my treat. When my mother was a diabetic, they considered sugar to be like strychnine. Now, they know better, and it is much better to be diabetic than it was back then. You can have a blast and enjoy your life now, you don't have to undergo medieval monkish self-denial and punishment because you have a condition. Take care of it, yes, but don't let it ruin your lifestyle.
Anonymous on 03/24/2008:
Be careful because many sugar substitutes can have a laxative effect. You never know until too late how much you can consume before the effect hits you. A lot of sugar-free candies and chocolates taste terrible.
ejack053824 on 03/24/2008:
Laxative effect? I know I don't have a problem blowing my guts out...that's for sure! LOL!
Anonymous on 03/24/2008:
Heaven, those are one of my favorites also. I am not diabetic but eat very little sugar so making them sugar free would be nice. (VH)
Starlord on 03/24/2008:
Mrs. V has the right idea. Eight grams of carbs per serving is very reasonable, especially for a candy that is not sugar-free. Every time I think of special foods for diabetics, I remember the chocolate chip cookies for diabetics mom brought home once. They were about the size of the famous Nilla wafers, and I bit off about a quarter of one. I chewed and chewed and chewed and swallowed and chewed and chewed and swallowed. I took about a quarter of a cookie as big around as a quarter, and swallowed enough cookie to match a softball in size. It tasted like cardboard to boot.
Mrs. V on 03/25/2008:
Now adays, diabetics watch there 'total' carb intake and not the sugar.
My husband can have 60g carbs every meal and two 15g carb snacks aday.
That's for one day:
3 pancakes with 2 tabspoons of regular suyrup (or 1/2 of lite suyrup) 2 sausage patties and a small glass of milk.
2 lunch meat sandwiches (or 1 lunch meat sandwich and 2 handfuls of chips) and a diet soda.
2 cookies and a diet soda
1 1/2 cup of pasta and sauce and a diet soda (or 1 cup of pasta and sauce and 2 rolls)
A slice of choclate cake with small scope of ice cream.
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We work to inspire breakthroughs in the way the world treats children and to achieve immediate and lasting change in their lives. Across all of our work, we pursue several core values: accountability, ambition, collaboration, creativity and integrity.
In 2013 we reached over 143 million children through our work, including over 52 million children directly. Click here to read our International Annual Review 2013 and see our work in 2013 in pictures.


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Veterans Success Center-Your One Stop Shop
The Veterans Success Center is moving to the Union!
Effective on May 15, 2014
Our new temporary address will be 101 N. Grant St., Room 280 (all other contact information will remail the same). We are excited to share that renovations are in the works for Rooms 284/286 (right next door) with expected completion in August 2014. This will be the long term home for the VSC. Updates on progress will be shared via facebook!
Facebook Feed
Follow the Facebook Feed for the latest news, events, and conversation. Dogtags@Purdue on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/#!/groups/158455200998620/
Study Lounge
Trying to find a place to study? Look no further, the Veterans Success Center houses the first Veterans Study Lounge on campus. The study lounge is available for veterans, members of the military, and immediate family members and open during normal working hours (8-5; M-F). Sign in and enjoy.
Contact Us
Veterans Success Center
400 Centennial Mall Drive
West Lafayette, Indiana 47907
(765) 494-7638 (Voice)
(765) 494-1545 (Fax)


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New Arrivals
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Sapphire Silk Dolman Sleeve Blouse
Our limited edition sapphire blue looks rich and glamorous in a silky drop of satin charmeuse. Unadorned in front, the blouse is detailed with silvertone buttons stationed along 3/4 split sleeves, and a low V-back secured with a silky tie. 92% Silk, 8% Spandex. Hand wash, cold; line dry. Or dry clean. Imported.
- Pullover style; stretch fit.
- Bateau neckline and 3/4 split dolman sleeve. Banded bottom in front, shirred elastic in back. Back ties have silvertone end caps.
- Hits at the lower hip (26" from shoulder).
We're so sorry: this item sold out sooner than expected. For an equally stylish substitute, please call our Style Experts at 1.877.948.2525. Or click on Live Help below for immediate assistance.