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Swissair - egregious incompetence and a lack of accountability
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To Whom It May Concern:
I am filing a formal compliant against Swissair. I am outraged at my treatment by Swissair over the past four weeks. I encountered egregious incompetence and a lack of accountability that ruined our travel plans and exhausted my valuable time and money. We were expressly told that we would be granted an exception to our voucher, but were strung along for nearly 4 weeks with a yes response, followed by a we will contact you in 24 hours, so you can pay the difference in travel fare, but were never called back. I have documented each encounter and summarized the miserable experience we were forced to deal with on the account of the horribly managed Swissair Marketing and ticketing departments.
November 27th 2009, I purchased a business class trip for two on Swissair at an auction held for the benefit of a local Zurich based charity (See Attachment 1- Voucher). Understanding that there were restrictions on the use of the voucher we wrote to the address on the voucher and asked if it could be used for international travel.
October 19th 2010, we emailed the Swiss Air contact listed on the voucher email@example.com, and enclosed the scanned copy of the voucher to inquire making an exception for travel from San Francisco to a Swissair destination (See attachment 2- Email Inquiry).
October 20th we received an email response from Maryam Mobara in the SWISS E-Mail Service Center-Team R1C. She very clearly stated they had reviewed our request and that we may use the voucher to travel from San Francisco, but we must pay the difference in fare, stating, âWe have reviewed your request and wish to share the following information with you: Please note you may do that but incase the fare is higher you would need to reckon with any fare difference.â We responded that we would gladly do so and provided all the necessary travel information.
October 20 â November 15th, we experienced the most ridiculous incompetence we have ever witnessed from an airline. We were routed back and forth from Switzerland to New York, to various call centers throughout the world, all telling us to call the other office. Neither office was willing to take initiative and resolve our matter in a prompt and respectful manner. The New York office would say âcall the number on the voucherâ and the receptionists at the Swissair number, who were outsourced to Mind Pearl call center (sometimes in Spain, sometimes in South Africaâ¦) would tell me to âtalk to New Yorkâ.
November 12, Louisa at the New York office said, âyes, itâs all approved and will be turned around within 24 hours at which time we will call youâ. We proceeded to make plans and booked our hotels.
November 13th, we did not receive a call within 24 hours, so I called to see if there is any new information on our account. There is none. When requesting to speak with a Supervisor, I am told that Karin Maher is out of the office and that we will receive a response within 24 hours.
November 14th I have not heard a response within 24 hours as promised giving us a dollar value to pay the difference on our tickets. I call New York to see if any new information has been added to our account. This is the day before we are set to travel, and no monetary amount has been issued.
November 15th, on the day of travel, we finally got supervisor Karin Maher in New York on the phone who abruptly said âNo the voucher could not be usedâ. Karin was snide, rude and very unfriendly, as was her staff. Not only did she not dignify us with a returned call, we had to track her down. When we asked her point blank if she cared about her customers, she outrageously responded, âIâm not answering that questionâ. She then referred us back to the Swiss reservation number in Europe.
November 15th, we call Switzerland, the agent, Pamela instructed us to go to the airport two hours before flight time with the voucher and the correspondence and that the counter agent would take care of this.
November 15th, we went to the airport as instructed, and the gate agent treated us like the enemy. She was prejudicially aware of our situation and told me that there was nothing that she could do, snidely asking why we thought we should come to the airport. She made a copy of the voucher without taking into consideration any of the supporting documents I had furnished her. We left the airport with our suitcases packed, Visaâs issued and hotels paid, treated worthlessly.
We would have understood if we had been told from the outset that the voucher could not be used for international travel. However, we were told that it could be and that we would need to simply pay the difference â first by the Swiss office (in writing) and then later by the New York office (over the phone). We followed every instruction that each of your different representative required of us, and at the last minuet was slapped in the face by the snide and disrespectful supervisor, Karin Maher, who waited until the day of travel to deliver the blow of not granting us our tickets that were promised to us from day one.
The incompetence that we experienced was absurd, even the simple act of changing a name on the reservation became a monumental waste of time and added frustration to this process, having to speak with 3 different reservationists on 3 separate occasions.
This is terrible business practice. We are offing a cash difference on the fare, which means more money for Swissair on the margin. The flight is leaving with 2 empty seats anyway. Instead Swissair ruins our travel our travel plans, treats its customers miserably, and fails to honor its word. We were shuffled around for nearly 4 weeks to find out how much the difference in fair price will cost us, only to be disrespected and denied tickets on the day of travel. Swissair should be ashamed of these actions!
In this digital age, it would behoove the marketing department to treat customers with dignity and respect for their travel, especially considering how viral information is shared. Please know that if Swissair is unable to accommodate our promised travel plans, you can count on me to spend the time I would be traveling, informing passengers to do themselves a favor and fly any airline BUT Swissair. This company has outsourced all of its accountability and with it, itâs integrity. In this digital age, businesses will fail that think that they can get away with treating your customers like refuse.
In addition, we will be pursuing legal action against Swissair and its representatives for wasting our time, money and ruining our travel. This matter must be resolved immediately; I will no longer tolerate any more of this â you will receive a response in 24 hoursâ lie.
Danielle Bersen
We can be reached at 415-990-4938 and via email danielle. firstname.lastname@example.com
- Itemized Summary of Encounters with Swissair
Included is an itemized summary of encounters with Swissair personnel:
October 26th, we responded via email with the flight information for our travel plans and the estimated difference in cost of fare based on the cost of 2580 printed voucher, âThe total fare online is 2480.52 USD for two people which is within the $2580 voucher cost basisâ (see Attachment 2 â Email Inquiry).
October 30th we received an email response on from Zita Vintan SWISS E-Mail Service Center-Team Basel, confirming our arrangement and instructing us to mail the actual voucher to the SWISS International Air Linesâ¨BSLCRX/MDCB/Ticketing department one day before our day of travel.
October 30th I called Swiss Airlines Ticketing 877-359-7947 and reserved passage for my sister and I on a flight from San Francisco to New Delhi, prepared to pay the increase in fare price, and requested that dollar amount balance. I faxed a copy of the original voucher to 631-956-9212, and requested to change my sisterâs last name from Bersen to Lane.
November 1st I called Swiss Airlines to confirm receipt of my fax. They had not yet received it and the agent reconfirmed the correct fax number and instructed me to re-fax it the next day.
November 2nd I re-faxed the voucher to Swiss Air at 631-956-9212.
November 4th the first egregious inconsistency presented itself as I attempted to change Linsey Bersenâs name to Linsey Lane. I called Swiss Airlines Ticketing 877-359-7947 and was told by the representative that she would need to call in personally to change the name.
November 4th Linsey Lane personally called the same line and was told that she could not change her name because the reservation has been cancelled. I spoke with ticketing that afternoon and explained that per Maryam Mobara â¨SWISS E-Mail Service Center-Team R1C we were granted an exception on the voucher. I was specifically told that this should not be a problem, but it would need to be approved by a supervisor in the marketing department in order to issue tickets. I was instructed to email supporting documents to DNLYCSALESSUPPORT@ENHANCEDCCD. COM and that the reservationist would also send a direct email to Swiss Air Marketing department in the US and would request an expedited response on my behalf.
November 5th I received an email response from Karin Maher âTeam Leader | Sales Support Swiss International Air Lines in New York (see attachment 3- Karin Maher Email). She stated that she will need to contact the overseas marketing department, and our reservation would ârequire specific booking categoriesâ. She would review our documents and respond next week.
November 8th, I called Swiss Airlines Ticketing 877-359-7947 to check on documentation and spoke with Eileen, who was the first reservationist to accommodate the urgency of our situation. She confirmed that it is likely that our reservation will be honored once Sales Support reviews the documentation and then they will be responsible for issuing tickets. She also suggested also that I call the Switzerland office.
November 8th, Per Eileenâs suggestion, I phoned the Switzerland based phone number printed on the voucher +41 (0)848 700 700 and attempt to reach Maryam Mobara or a supervisor who may offer assistance. The outsourcing call center, Mind Pearl could not locate Ms. Morbara and suggested that we email her again. I did so as instructed.
November 9th, I called to change Linsey Bersenâs name to Linsey Lane, but encountered yet another inconsistency in information. The reservationist told me that her name cannot be changed, even by her and that we would have to make an entirely new reservation in order to change her name. This is a stark contrast the information provided to me by the same department, different person.
November 11th I call New York office to speak with Karrin Maher, who is in a meeting and I am told will return my call shortly. I do not hear from her until we call her again on the morning of November 15th.
November 13th, Linsey Lane calls again in an attempt to change her name on the reservation. The female reservationist changes her name with no complications, again inconsistent with what I was told on November the 9th. The simple act of changing a name on the reservation became a monumental waste of time and added frustration to this process.
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James_236 on 11/17/2010:
With the difficulties in using vouchers for air travel, they are just not worth it. Most airlines have discounted fares for internet bookings which you are usually not able to get with vouchers. Vouchers usually require that you pay a higher fare, and when the voucher is applied, you usually pay a higher fare than if you didn't have a voucher.
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Swiss International - A Lesson in Horrible Customer Relationship Management
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P.O. BOX CH-4002 -- I am the Managing Director and owner of the 170 room Fraser Suites Sukhumvit hotel in Bangkok. I have been in the travel and hospitality business for over the last 5 years. This is the first time I have traveled on Swiss International on a roundtrip to NYC although I am previously a Gold Star Alliance member through Thai international and am currently a silver member On this particular day, I arrived at the airport in advance of 90 minutes, around 115 minutes prior to departure at JFK. As I have a problem on my left knee that usually gets agitated during long haul flights I had prebooked my seat for an aisle seat so that I could stretch my knee as it tends to get quite stiff due to the altitude and long hours sitting on the same seat. When I arrived, I was told that my seat had been released and that most passengers would be assigned seating at the gate. This I found very unusual as I have traveled to NYC at least 2 times a year since 1991 and never have my seats been released and assigned at the gate. I spoke to the Supervisor and she said the seats are release by the system if you don't arrive more than 90 minutes before departure. As I mentioned earlier, I arrived 115 minutes before departure. As I proceeded to the gate, I kindly informed the women who was assigning the seats of my medical condition and she said she would take care of me rudely without even asking my name. When I asked her how would she know who I was she simply said to me 'I know who you are.' Obviously she did not but I decided to keep quiet and wait. For the next 30-40 minutes there were many passengers like myself waiting for our pass. The flight was leaving in 5 minutes and even then, I did not get my seat assignment. Finally when I got it, it was not an aisle seat as I expected. I was very frustrated at this point and had to again speak to someone who finally changed it for me. At this point I was very very upset at the service quality of your airline. (There were many other passengers who were upset as well!) After finally receiving my aisle seat boarding pass, I went into the airline and proceeded towards my seat. To my surprise there were two people already seated there and when I asked them for their boarding pass, they had the exact seat no as on my card and the seat was apparently double booked. I again had to go back to the front of the gate to have my seat changed and have this situation sorted out which took another 5 minutes to process. It was a very nervous moment on a packed flight where I thought I would not be able to board the flight. It was very obvious they were outsourcing their airport services to an outside company and it was a very poorly managed service by staff who do not care about the quality of customer care which negatively affected how passengers like myself perceived of their airline, especially on my first roundtrip experience. I must say that I was completely disappointed at how I and other passengers were treated.
When I arrived back to Bangkok, I sent an official complaint on the website and the message was replied to me a woman named Patchanee Maneeruji saying they would get back to me within a few days. This message was also received by the following Swiss International staff including Christopher Allen, Jaaveed Ally, John Carlo Justincic, and Daniel Murray. This message was sent on July 10, 2009. After not hearing back from any of these five people for four weeks, I sent an inquiry again on August 1, 2009 asking for some feedback. After another week of waiting I finally received an email from Patchanee telling me that as a result of the problems I had, Swiss International would make this up to me by ensuring that the next time I would get my preferred seat on the plane. I found this reply insulting firstly because it took five of these people 4 weeks to come up with this reply and secondly because it was simply a cheap reply for the amount of trouble I went through. Being in the hospitality business, I am always proactive in how I react to disappointed guests as my hotel and am always giving free room nights and upgrades to any dissatisfied guest as my guests are important to me and I believe it is in my best interest to make sure they arrive and leave my property satisfied. I am not upset that I was not given a free ticket or a free upgrade but simply it was a disrespectful gesture on the part of the airline based on the principle of good customer relationship management. I am writing this email in hope that you will read this and AVOID flying with Swiss International. The Airline is not reflective of a world class airline and I would suggest flying other airlines such as British Airways, Singapore Airlines, Quantas, Lufthansa, Emirates on any destination you fly if you have the option. Trust me, Swiss is worse than a low cost airline, even Air Asia offered me a free ticket due to a delay I had on a local flight in Asia and they offered it right away without me having to ask for it.
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Anonymous on 08/10/2009:
The problem with comparisons to the hospitality industry is airlines run a commodity business model. Customer satisfaction means squat for the most part - unless we are talking Preferred customers, Business and First class.
Sadly, Star Silver has lost a lot of importance - heck US is hawking it with Budget Car Rental.
LH I'm sure is happy for the plug as they are a major shareholder in Swiss. Currently Swiss is under consultants control, check back and try them in a year - a much different product hopefully.
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Unfair Baggage Charges for UK National University Student by Swiss Air
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I am a frequent flier with Miles and More and a Bachelor of Professional Golf Management/Business Administration student in the USA. I travelled to Switzerland and France to play golf for one month.
I had extra luggage because of the duration of my stay and the cold weather in Europe. I decided to visit London while I was here. I booked a round trip flight on Swiss Air on 26 July 2011, flight LX440 to London City which was very pleasant. I was charged 60 swiss francs for excess baggage on the LCY segment. The airport was close to the city center which was extremely convenient.
When I returned to Geneva from London Heathrow, on my return segment, flight LX353, I was charged 100 euros for 6 kilos overweight for two bags and 35 GBP for a golf bag that was 18 kilos in weight. I was given a receipt that was taken away from me at the gate so I have no proof of payment of these exorbitant baggage charges.
I believe that the employees were pocketing the money because I paid in cash. The baggage charges cost almost more than my return plane ticket.
I am a university student and a member of various international student travel and golfing groups. I shall be recommending to our organisations that we never book travel on Swiss Air again unless this matter is resolved fairly.
I spent over 15,000 while I was in Europe and I am very happy to spend my money on another carrier where I shall be treated more pleasantly.
To make matters worse, the UK Swiss airlines' "chief robbers" then lost my two bags. I arrived in Geneva with a set of golf clubs only.
Finally, my luggage arrived on Swiss Air flight LX351 late this afternoon, August 7, 2011. I had to trace my bags myself because nobody called to let me know their whereabouts. My last day in Geneva has been ruined.
I had to go to the airport and get my luggage in person. Then, I returned to my hotel to shower and change as I had a change of clothing, finally.
My departing international flight tomorrow is at 7:15 am so I have been unable to play golf or do any tours today.
I am greatly upset. I feel that I have been defrauded by the Swiss Air employees at London Heathrow airport.
I had purchased my ticket before August 1, 2011 so the old excess baggage rules should have applied in my case. My Swiss Air Booking Reference is LDDXHU.
A disgruntled Swiss Air Passenger
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Alain on 08/07/2011:
By now I assume you've contacted Swiss International Air Lines via their website at http://swiss.com/web/EN/Pages/index.aspx?Country=US
or their US telephone number in East Hempstead, NY at (877) 359-7947. I haven't seen a lot of complaints of this nature about them, but it's certainly something they'd want to address with you. You can also file a complaint at http://airconsumer.dot.gov/problems.htm
Sonny on 08/20/2013:
You say the employees pocketed the cash? That is asbolutely rubbish. Cameras everywhere and the transaction will be recorded on their computer systems.
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Hostility towards families with children by stewards
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SYDNEY -- In this instance I will display the email response from Swiss Air.
Anyone wishing to see the whole thread is welcomed to it by request.
Note: The response has been written with care not to admit too much...
Dear Saul,
Your email addressed to our CEO Harry Hohmeister was received.
We are sorry to learn that you encountered some other problems on your return on board LX255 / 17 November 2010.
The case was forwarded to Cabin Crew Management and the male steward, who was the subject of your complaint. Necessary steps were followed and now we would like apologize for the attitude of staff. We agree that the manner in which you were attended to was no way professional.
Regarding the previous issue, please accept our sincere apologies for not providing you with a disposal bag for diapers. The crew should have acted more helpful on making your journey with children easier.
All your remarks were sent again to Management and the crew of both flights were made aware of their lack of service and we can assure you of improvement in case you decide to fly with us in the future.
We are pleased to hear that you experienced a more enjoyable flight from Zurich to Melbourne. However it must be quite hard to travel with small children and understand that assistance is welcomed if possible.
We are not able to offer you compensation but again our sincere apologies for the lack of service and hopefully you will accept the acknowledgement from us on behalf of SWISS.
Best regards,
[snip - names removed]
Customer Service Agent
Swiss International Air Lines
GSA Walshes World Agencies Aust Pty Ltd
Level 2, 143 Macquarie St.
Sydney NSW 2000
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dan gordon on 01/09/2011:
I'm not sure why you think an airline is supposed to provide diaper disposal bags for you? what would you normally do?
Anonymous on 01/09/2011:
You were traveling with children and you had nothing to hold you childrens dirty dipers? As a parent it is your job to have a container to hold the fouled dipers until they can be safely disposed. It is unconciousable for someone to expect the airline crews to dispose of your childens dirty diapers. The crew is to insure the safety of the passengers, they are not nannies. It is also unsanitary and puts the safety and well being of all the other passengers in danger.
I would be hostile if someone had the audacity to try to hand me a fouled diaper.
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Swiss Air Ignored Serious Electrical Problem on Zurich-Hong Kong Flight
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I wrote to Swiss Air one month ago today, but no response, so I will now post complaints online.
I spent the entire 14 hour flight from Zurich to Hong Kong in the dark because neither the overhead lights nor any electronics (TV, videos) worked. This was obviously a wiring problem, not a matter of rebooting the system, and I reported it well before take-off. The stewardess said it would be rebooted, though I said this would not work. It was obviously a wiring or fuse problem, not a computer problem. Yet in spite of this, and without knowing the extent of the electrical problem, the attendant ignored me.
Over an hour later, I asked again about it; the attendant snapped that they were serving the meal and could not deal with it. After three hours, I hit the attendant button of a neighboring seat (because nothing in my seat worked). It was ignored, but half an hour later, an attendant came by, switched it off, and kept going. This happened three times before an attendant finally came, smiled sweetly and asked, "Is it still not working?"
It was obviously not working. Everything was dark in my seat and my neighbors (mine was 26E and his 26D).
Electrical problems (whether shortages or otherwise) can be serious, and I was very surprised this was entirely ignored. So I and the man in 26D sat in the dark, literally, the entire flight. I then reported this online on Oct. 17th. Swiss Air said I'd receive a prompt response. Today, one month later, I've heard nothing.
I never expected such poor maintenance, or service, on a Swiss Air flight. (I do not, however, blame the attendants, who overall were quite courteous, and should not have to deal with such problems; they were probably up against the wall, because of Swiss Air's poor maintenance).
Dr. B.B.
Flight LX 138, Zurich to HK, 17 Oct. 2009
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Anonymous on 11/17/2009:
You make assertions of potential safety issues without understanding how aircraft IFE systems work. Your safety was never at risk.
Swiss Inter. is very cognisant of electrical issues given what happened to flt 111.
Interesting you claim they have such poor maintenance yet you willingly purchased a ticket and rode their aircraft.
Amoybill2009 on 11/18/2009:
I too am familiar with Flight 111--hence my surprise they ignored this problem. It is true that I do not understand aircraft IFE systems--but I do know that two seats with zero electrical power, in entertainment or overhead, probably have more wrong than just a system reboot (which the attendants eventually admitted; they could have said so 3 hours earlier). As to my willingly purchasing a ticket--many major airlines have had fatal crashes, but people still buy tickets on those airlines. Accidents do happen. Hopefully airlines learn from them.
Your point is taken--I don't know the systems. But in such a situation, the crew should explain what is happening, and not ignore the situation for three hours.
Anonymous on 11/18/2009:
If they ignored it they obviously either didn't think it was a danger or knew something you didn't. Everybody is an expert.
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Overbooking and passenger exploitation
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BOSTON, MASSACHUSETTS -- This is a letter I sent to Swiss Air executive
complaining about our horrible experience with swiss air..
Are you proud of creating Swiss Air ?
Please read below what we went through and
still going through because of swiss air.
My name is Pankaj Rahate. I flew from Boston to
Mumbai with my wife Kanchan and son
Viplove (8 months). While returning back from
Mumbai, we had this horrible experience with
swiss air which shattered all my expectations
about swiss people and its business executives.
The only mistake I did was I came 15 min late
after the counter was closed. But it was still
1 hr before the flight time.
Swiss air did not provided us with any help.
They did not give us any help with accommodation
nor did they help facilitate our journey in any way.
They asked us to just come everyday and try our luck. With heavy luggage and a infant baby we came to airport 5 days in a row at around midnight only to be kicked out. We will come everyday, wait for 3-4 hours and see other backloged passengers board the plane and not us.
The flights are overbooked everyday as high as 5%. Some people are provided with accommodation and they are put on earliest flights. For us, it was denial and rejection every day.
It was the most horrible experience of my life
and I vow to do everything to make sure Swiss
Air policies are exposed.
My wife is still waiting in India for her flight. No help from swiss air and no help from your staff.
Why do you operate this way sir ?
Isn't your policy exploits passengers like me ?
How much shall one person pay for being 15 min late ?
Is it not your duty to transport your passenger ?
If you feel you are a responsible executive
at least email back. Or I will feel you are as
deaf and corrupt as most corrupt regime in the
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Mad Eye Moody on 08/31/2005:
Wow. Sorry this happened to you. Hang in there, though. Keep sending those letters to SAS - and keep copies. Sooner or later they'll address it...and if they don't, you can show all your letters to the press. You can let them run a story about it.
Ashok_Nirmal on 04/29/2013:
Hello Team,
This is to bring the incident to your knowledge where my parents (both Sr Citizens) faced an extremely poor services during their flight from Indira gandhi International Airport, New Delhi, India to O'hare International Airport, Chicago, USA via Zurich Airport on April 25th, 2013.
My Parents were travelling to the United States (USA) for the first time from New Delhi, India and unfortunately I selected Swiss Airways for their journey :(
My Father, age 74 years and Mother, age 67 years had leg pain due to arthritis and therefore they requested the ground staff while checkin in at the Indira Gandhi International airport, New Delhi, India to provide them a comfortable, if possible a window seat with extra leg space and were given a narrow seat with limited Comfort. (Seat number 41G and 41 F). However, the female staff member who took care of their boarding passes etc acknowledged that she has fulfilled their demand.
Not limited to this, they found an insect in the meal (in salad) served during the Zurich - Chicago flight due to which my mother fell sick and could not eat anything during the 9 hour 22 minutes flight. She was dehydrated and weak whe she reached O'hare airport as she could not eat or drink anything afterwards.
This issue was immediately reported to the on duty Hostess but no action was taken by any of the staff members.
This incident has forced me to think twice for using Swiss Airways services in future and trusting any of the reviews available on your website.
I request Swiss Airways management to look into the issue and take appropriate action.
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WOBURN, MASSACHUSETTS -- I purchased Kaspersky Anti-Virus 2010 in Nov. '09. Had initial problems completing the transaction with Digital River/Element 5/Kaspersky that very day and should have heard the bells go off. I did not and completed the purchase. It has been a worthless and regrettable experience since. I have had to hire computer technicians on two occasions. They have completely removed and reinstalled the program. Kaspersky keeps "losing" my key. The problem begins with a "blacklist is corrupted" window which suggests that I open Kaspersky and click the "fix it" button. At this point the error window appears saying that Kaspersky cannot find my user key and that the license does not exist.
I have attempted to solicit "customer service" from Kaspersky for resolving this issue. I call a toll free line, stay non hold for 10 minutes (each time) then briefly speak with a "customer service tech" who promptly says they will email me instructions with the fix. After having done this now three times-each time having to send them information with which they do nothing, I have determined that Kaspersky DOES NOT CARE. They have my money and my computer is unprotected with no resolution in sight.
They offer no means of quick resolution-you are stuck waiting on endless emails requesting information and tasks for you to complete to send them "for review". No solution is forthcoming. I am not a computer genius-but can follow and execute instructions. I have done as they asked to no avail, all I ask is for the necessary VERBAL support to get the product for which I have paid working, clearly the email routine-is cheaper for them but does not work.
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Defender Pro 2008 15-in-1
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ARKANSAS -- $40.00 Box from hell...
First off this program will hurt your computer if you don't know what you are doing and how to protect yourself from trash like this.
This is not right, I don't care what anyone says. When a person goes and buys a program $39.95 plus tax ("Wal-mart" is where I bought it). I have installed this program 3 times 3 different ways and it still sucks. If you got it in and can't get it out here is the best way:
Type in Run window: "regedit" "without quotations" it opens opens and go to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\current Version\Uninstall locate all of the defender programs and right click on them and hit delete..
Problem fixed... then run a reg edit program... for $40.00 you can buy a box of hell, this company needs to be run out of town "Kaspery".
I just want my money back, and that will help a little.
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Anonymous on 01/17/2008:
My kid loaded their 2007 version earlier last year. It also trashed his PC. The only way to get rid of it was to edit the registry as you did.
Anonymous on 01/17/2008:
Ccleaner.com will also remove and clean up the mess for you if you do not want to edit the system registry.
lobo65 on 01/17/2008:
I don't know if you mean Kaspersky, but I use it's internet suite, and it has been great for me. I don't use Windows though--Firefox for me. Not sure if that made a difference.
MRM on 01/17/2008:
Super, I also use ccleaner to reclaim my hard drive space.
Anonymous on 01/17/2008:
Mrm, we have found it to be the best free product for cleaning up registry entries too. If you take a one year old box that has been used daily Ccleaner will find hundreds of registry errors and clean them out. My question is MS must know the system registry becomes a mess over time? And they have done what to correct the problem? They created the monster but take no responsibility for the problem.
bearcntry on 09/05/2008:
I, too, bought the Defender Pro 2008 15 in 1. I experienced all the problems other users described. I tried to uninstall several times, unsuccessfully. I even tried running regedit, as instructed. That didn't work for me. I called Dell for help to remove the software. They would only help if I purchased a service contract. I emailed Defender Pro several times, unsuccessfully. I tried everything I could think of and even the suggestions from others, but nothing worked. Finally, last night I found System Restore in my System Tools. I set my computer back to a couple of days before installing Defender Pro. It didn't fix the problems the first time. I took it back a month before installing DP, it worked! My computer is back to running as it did before! Now, I just have to go and buy another software to protect my computer. Hope this helps someone else.
White Boy on 09/17/2008:
My wife purchased Defender Pro 5 in 1 without consulting me. After I found out a few days later that she had bought this world's biggest piece of sh** I tried to uninstall it and that didn't work. The next day I called Symatec which I have a current account with, and it took the technician 2 damn hours to delete it off my computer. The next morning Defender Pro had uninstalled Norton Antivirus 2008 from my computer and reinstalled itself without authorization. It's the weirdest thing I have ever seen. I still cannot get it off my computer. Someone else told me to do a system restore but my last restore point on my computer was 7 months ago. I have been reading on the internet that the people that purchased this piece of crap program are consulting lawyers and the FBI, because Defender Pro as a company has developed a virus in its Defender Pro 5 in 1 program. I am currently consulting my own personal lawyer. There is no telling what this program has done to my computer and I just purchased it about a year ago for $5,000 straight from dell, and I want a full refund of my computer and this piece of crap program, because there is no telling what it has done internally on my computer. Please relay this message to the whole computing world " DO NOT BUY THIS PRODUCT ". Good luck to everyone with the problems you have and I hope you fix them.
junki1 on 11/02/2008:
I bought defender pro 15-1 back in June 08 and in August I loged on to my computer and defender pro said subscription had expired I contacted defender pros web site and they told me that they were working on the problem. and give me another activation code. that worked fine for another month, then it did it again.I contacted them and they gave me anothe activation code . and today it has told me that I don't have a subscription. I tried to activat it with the last code and a red box comes up on screen ."code 13" I have tryed to contact them via their web sit and I keep geting boot off before I connected to there web site.I will be getting rid of this in a few days I have had nothing but problems with this program and I will be sending them a nasty gram after I finish writing this thanks for having a web site where we can voice our opinions. thanks very much. junki1
Eddie2704 on 12/13/2008:
Been reading some of the reviews of Defender Pro Internet Security. I have been using it almost a year and still have had no problems. It was easy to install and had no issues except when shutting down my PC I have to exit the Defender Pro program first. Besides that no other problems. It protects very well. I give it 100++ This is very good software and they make it clear that if your computer is clean when you install it it will stay clean. If you install it on a computer that is full of Trojans, bugs and god know what all else it will clean those infections off of your hard drive even if it causes your computer to crash. So don't blame it on Defender Pro if your machine crashes. Blame it on the tons of bugs and Viruses that damaged your system files before Defender Pro was installed. Also don't blame Defender Pro for bad user habits. If you go to bad sites like porn and get full of Trojans then run out and buy Defender Pro thinking that it will clean up your Trojan problem and it does, Don't blame Defender Pro when your computer crashes. Either put it on a new computer or one that has been reformatted and windows reloaded. It works great. Don't put it on one that is already infected.
Shanalicious on 01/11/2009:
I too have never had major problems with Defender Pro, sure when installed I had problems with the signitures, but put the disc back in and modified it. Other than that it's been the best for AV/FW and have had no viruses since. I have tried several different AV's and they didn't block much less remove a lot of viruses. To assure that any AV you use actually works, try going to trendmicro.com and do free online scan.
madconsumer on 01/11/2009:
cannot go wrong with grisoft acg internet suite 8.0.
Tammy41078 on 02/26/2009:
Hello everyone,
I was looking for reviews on the Defender Pro software. Now I have gone through a lot of software, and intitially I did have some trouble but found it was due to existing troubles with my computer. I told my friend and he also found he had a problem, some virus or something. Once the virus was destroyed the program loaded and it has been amazing for me. Defender Pro has kept my Sony Vaio in great condition since the virus was destroyed. I guess it messed with the uploading.
I HATE DEFENDER PRO on 12/16/2009:
Defender pro 15-1 is by far the biggest scam I've seen... TOTAL TRASH... a class action is required to shut down these clowns!!! Please each one of you write to your BBB and attourny general in your state... this is a rip off and these folks need to be stopped. I can and WILL prove in COURT that not only are they selling a worthless scam product... they're doing the virus!!! Ya, I set them up after a few viruses got through and set a trap for them... got them red handed!!! Going to the courthouse to file in am!!!
Lemon12 on 03/04/2010:
I been using Defender pro for a few years now and I haven't had a problem with it. People don't realize that they can't load it onto a computer that is already infected. If it's infected, it's best to take it to a professional to help get your computer cleaned out first before you install anything else on it. Cause if your computer is already infected, whatever else you install will be destroyed as well.
J's PC Repair on 04/12/2012:
I too have been using Defender Pro 15 in 1 for a little over a year now and I have not had any problems with it as far as my computers go. It has not trashed anything and in fact, is one of the best AV Programs I have seen for the cost ($39.95 for 3 computers for 2 years isn't bad at all).
The only problems I have had with it are an occasional issue with a fouled update or a fouled install because of system requirements not meeting the programs install requirements. I have also had 2 times of "Activation has expired" types of issues but they are solved by a quick update that seems to fix it.
To all those who say they have so much trouble with it... simply, you have no idea what you are doing and shouldn't use a more advanced program...
I have seen nothing but problems with McAfee and Norton, even have had to clean computer viruses that got past those two... now they are a joke/scam (IMHO)...
Leebo on 04/13/2012:
I have Defender Pro 15 in 1. A few months after installing it my pictures just came up missing. Some folders are there but empty other floders are gone. They had been on my computor for several years. A lot of them was my grandson which is 7 now. How do you replace them? I even put pictures on my computor about 8-2011 to see what would happen to them. They are GONE. Video's on Youtube are like watching slide shows my computor is so slow. Wasn't like that before. You tell me if it is me or Defender Pro is junk. I don't think it is me removing pictures I really wanted to keep. I put ALL my pictures on USB now.
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