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AMD Ruby Tech demo images show remarkable detailing
AMD's latest tech demo is called Ruby, and stars a flame-haired woman with a cybernetic arm. You know what that means: green flame effect anime punching. Head on over to AllGamesBeta for high-res stills, which show off some of the amazing performance AMD is able to coax from recent graphics tech – although it will […]0
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Enemy Front to be released by CI Games in spring 2014
CI Game's Enemy Front, announced back in 2011 as Stuart Black-designed World War 2 action game, will be release in spring 2014.5
Monster Hunter Online beta footage shows lush CryEngine 3 worlds
Monster Hunter Online is currently in closed beta, and footage of the MMO has appeared online. It's all very green and lush thanks to CryEngine 3 running in the background. The clip shows combat, monsters and more.4
Monster Hunter Online gameplay trailer shows beasts, combat & locations
Monster Hunter Online developer Tencent has released a gameplay trailer for its MMO adaptation of Capcom's long-standing series. The clip shows heroes battling many monsters, and gives a glimpse of the fantasy world's many locations.2
CryEngine 3 PlayStation 4 support confirmed
In news to be filed under the "water is wet" category, Crytek has announced PlayStation 4 support for its lauded CryEngine 3. Crytek also confirmed that it will itself develop games for the platform in the future. Being the force behind such things of beauty at Crysis 3, CryEngine 3 is growing in popularity and […]6
Crytek's CryEngine 3 "an officially licensed provider of middleware and tools" for Xbox One
Crytek has announced that its CryEngine 3 technology is "already primed for Xbox One," and the firm is "equipped to start creating software for the system now."0
CryEngine 3 - Enodo's real-time tech demo isn't a game, but it's still impressive
If you'd like to see what CryEngine 3 can do when using it's real-time 3D technologies are being used for urban or industrial projects, you should have a look at the real-time demo before from Enodo which uses gaming technology to create interactive models and immersive, 3D environments for industrial design. It's rather lovely. Thanks, […]3
CryEngine 3: GDC licensee video shows future games
Crytek has released a video showing off the games its CryEngine 3 licensees are currently working on. It's an impressive look at games on the horizon going into next-gen and shows off a variety of technical tricks.3
Crysis 3: we're only human, after all
Crysis 3 takes the survival theme laid down by its predecessors and lets it sing. Dave Cook speaks with producer Mike Read to find out why it could be the pinnacle of the series.3
Crysis 3 gets CryEngine 3 tech vidoc, shows engine & tool integration
Crysis 3 developer Crytek has released a technical video documentary about CryEngine 3 and how its new tricks and tools have been implemented into its shooter. The clip is presented by senior field applications engineer Sean Tracy. If you're into game tech, then you need to check this out.0
Timesplitters CryEngine mod enters development
Timesplitters 4 isn't happening any time soon – if at all – but a Crytek-approved CryEngine mod has now entered development. The Timesplitters mod started life as a Facebook campaign and after receiving enough interest, is now on its way.1
Sniper Ghost Warrior 2 gameplay looks CryEngine 3-gorgeous
Sniper Ghost Warrior 2 has received a new gameplay trailer from City Interactive, following a spate of silence on the project. It's 'soon to be released' according to the developer's official YouTube channel. If you're a fan of lush visuals and CryEngine 3 horse power, then you'd do well to check out the clip below.4
Modern Warfare 3 engine, CryEngine 3 vulnerable to security flaws - report
A report out of the POC2012 Conference in Seoul, via ComputerWorld, suggests games running CryEngine 3 and Modern Warfare 3′s IW Engine may both be vulnerable to separate security issues. Security consultant firm ReVuln demonstrated issues with multiplayer servers using both engines, and said similar problems may exist in Call of Duty: Black Ops 2 […]5
Crysis 3 CryEngine tech demo is fabulously lovely
Crysis 3 is looking remarkably sweet thanks to the advances Crytek has made with CryEngine 3. Don't take my word for it; the video through the break goes into detal on some of the graphical highlights of the new tech.13
Crytek: 'Unreal Engine 4 doesn't surprise us. CryEngine 3 is the benchmark'
Crytek CEO Cevat Yerli has revealed to VG247 that Unreal Engine 4 didn't do anything to surprise the studio, and that CryEngine 3 is the benchmark in next-gen technology.12
CryEngine 3 has existed "at the quality of Unreal Engine 4" for three years, says Crytek
Crytek's Cevat Yerli has said CryEngine 3 "already exists" at the quality of Unreal Engine 4, and while there are "tangible differences," between the two engines, it's not something people will notice when looking at still images of in-game screenshots.17
S.T.A.L.K.E.R.-inspired Crysis mod to become standalone indie release
Owl Game Studio, a group made up of Russian modders, has announced its S.T.A.L.K.E.R.-inspired Crysis mod, CryZone: Sector 23, will be released as a full game using CryEngine 3.10
CryEngine 3 SDK updated to version 3.4, see it in action
Crytek has updated the CryEngine 3 SDK to version 3.4 with new tools such as a "revamped DirectX 11 tessellation," improved AI, advanced options for character rendering, an advanced Glass Shader and more. The firm also released a video showing the update in action. It's posted below, courtesy of Evil Avatar. If you click through […]19
Sniper: Ghost Warrior 2 puts CryEngine through its paces
This work-in-progress trailer shows off how City Interactive is putting CryEngine 3 to good use for Sniper: Ghost Warrior 2.2
Crytek prepping for mobile revolution by pushing high-end PC tech
Counter intuitive as it seems, Crytek believes focussing on the fanciest of PC hardware will eventually make CryEngine better suited to emerging low-power platforms like tablets and mobile.1
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AMD Ruby Tech demo images show remarkable detailing
Enemy Front to be released by CI Games in spring 2014
Monster Hunter Online beta footage shows lush CryEngine 3 worlds
Monster Hunter Online gameplay trailer shows beasts, combat & locations
CryEngine 3 PlayStation 4 support confirmed
Crytek's CryEngine 3 "an officially licensed provider of middleware and tools" for Xbox One
CryEngine 3 – Enodo's real-time tech demo isn't a game, but it's still impressive
CryEngine 3: GDC licensee video shows future games
Crysis 3: we're only human, after all
Crysis 3 gets CryEngine 3 tech vidoc, shows engine & tool integration
Timesplitters CryEngine mod enters development
Sniper Ghost Warrior 2 gameplay looks CryEngine 3-gorgeous
Modern Warfare 3 engine, CryEngine 3 vulnerable to security flaws – report
Crysis 3 CryEngine tech demo is fabulously lovely
Crytek: 'Unreal Engine 4 doesn't surprise us. CryEngine 3 is the benchmark'
CryEngine 3 has existed "at the quality of Unreal Engine 4″ for three years, says Crytek
S.T.A.L.K.E.R.-inspired Crysis mod to become standalone indie release
CryEngine 3 SDK updated to version 3.4, see it in action
Sniper: Ghost Warrior 2 puts CryEngine through its paces
Crytek prepping for mobile revolution by pushing high-end PC tech
Closed beta sign-ups begin for Warface
Crytek to demonstrate "next-generation DX11 graphics and tools upgrades" for CryEngine 3 at GDC
Dynamic Mutators featured in latest video for Nexuiz
Warhorse signs CryEngine 3 licensing deal for its unannounced RPG
MechWarrior Online built on CryEngine 3
Crytek has "been investigating" Flash for CryEngine
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Apply generously to the scalp first, gently massaging. Then coat dry hair, leave on for 20 to 30 minutes, and shampoo out. Use about a quarter of a pot for short hair, or about half a pot for longer hair.
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Healthy hair starts with Roots
Fine, thin hair? Don't despair! We've got a hair and scalp treatment just for you. You'll feel the tingling and cooling sensations of fresh mint infusion and minty oils (peppermint and spearmint) as they go to work revitalizing the scalp, because healthy hair starts at the roots! Extra virgin olive oil and honey soften and condition hair to make it shine without weighing it down. Give dull, fine and thin hair volume and shine by treating it with Roots.
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= Natural ingredients = Safe syntheticsFresh Mint (Mentha arvensis) , Water (Aqua) , Cetearyl Alcohol and Sodium Lauryl Sulfate , Disodium Laureth Sulfosuccinate , Citric Acid , Propylene Glycol , Honey (Mel) , Peppermint Oil (Mentha piperita) , Sweet Orange Oil (Citrus sinensis) , Spearmint Oil (Mentha viridis) , Grapefruit Oil (Citrus paradisi) , Nettle Absolute (Urtica dioica) , Neroli Oil (Citrus Aurantium amara) , Extra Virgin Olive Oil (Olea europaea) , *Limonene , *Citral , *Linalool , Fragrance , Methylparaben , Propylparaben
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Q:Should I use conditioner after I shampoo this product out of my hair? Is it needed or will this product give me the feeling that conditioner does?Asked on 8/19/2014 by KyKy from NC
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A:You can condition for extra moisture, but it's not necessary! You can also just use it as the conditioner and omit a regular conditioner.Answered on 9/25/2014 by Anonymous
A:You can do either. I use a light conditioner, rinse and then let Roots soak into just the top of my scalp while I finish the rest of my shower. I have alot of hair, but it is really fine and this product does not weigh it down. My husband works it throughtout his hair and uses it as a conditioner alone. Roots leaves your hair soft and your scalp feeling fresh and tingly. You can't go wrong either way.Answered on 8/19/2014 by Anonymous
Q:I leave Roots for 20 mins and then just rinse off without shampooing because i like how my hair feels just by rinsing it off. Would this damage my hair/scalp?Asked on 8/17/2014 by Athena from United States
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A:Not at all! Do whatever works best for you, just make sure you are rinsing thoroughly.Answered on 9/25/2014 by Kayla from LUSH DIRECT
Q:I have really sensitive hair that can break easily, and I've been trying to grow my hair out for a really long time, will this help it grow?Asked on 5/18/2014 by gabby
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A:Roots will help condition and strengthen the hair. The peppermint will revitalize the scalp which can help encourage healthy hair growth but it won't necessarily help it grow.Answered on 9/12/2014 by Anonymous
A:This will definitely make your hair stronger and shinier but you have to be really careful how you put Roots on. It kind of feels like soft wax when it's applied so don't try to comb your hair through. The best way for you would probably to divide your hair into sections and apply to each section separately, then massage your scalp a little and.. just kinda let your hair be. Tie it loosely or wrap it in saran wrap (as I do). The first time I used Roots I tried to comb my hair through with my fingers and I pulled handfuls of them out. I'm quite positive you'll like the results, though, Roots definitely delivers. A full head of shiny hair:)Answered on 5/19/2014 by Misia from OC
Q:Ho often should you use this product? and How do you store it?Asked on 3/20/2014 by Jevi from New York
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A:I would recommend no more than once a week, but really you can use it however frequently works best for you! It is stable at room temperature, so you can store it where ever you would like.Answered on 3/21/2014 by Kayla from LUSH DIRECT
A:Hey! I use mine about once a week and just store it in the tub in the shower. Nothing special. I also use it before shampoo and then I like to use something like the honey shampoo or Big to wash it out depending on what I'm doing afterwards.
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Q:I was wondering if its a good idea to use the big shampoo after using the roots hair treatment or would that be too clarifying and counteract the product?Asked on 1/22/2014 by Hil
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A:You can use any shampoo you'd like after using the Roots hair treatment! If you find that Big is too drying for your hair, Curly Wurly might be a good choice!Answered on 3/21/2014 by Brandy from LUSH
Q:I have afro type hair. I'm wondering: Could I use this as a conditioner?Asked on 1/5/2014 by Michelle from Broomfield, CO
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A:I recommend using our products for what they are designed for. But I don't think it would hurt to maybe experiment and see what works for you!Answered on 3/21/2014 by Kayla from LUSH DIRECT
Q:Will "Roots" eventually thicken my hair?Asked on 1/3/2014 by VickiLes from Suffolk, Va
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A:While Roots does work to condition, strengthen, and add shine to hair without weighing it down, it will not thicken the hair, as the type of hair you have comes down to genetics. Roots does, however, work to provide volume and lift, which will give the hair the appearance of being thick!Answered on 3/14/2014 by Melissa S from LUSH Direct
A:I do not believe my hair did became thicker from using this product. However, it does look fuller.
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Q:what result should I expect from "Roots Hair Treatment " product? Does It work for female loss hair pattern?Asked on 9/6/2013 by honey from flint, MI
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A:Having a healthy scalp is like having good soil to grow veggies. Extra virgin olive oil and honey soften and condition hair to make it shine without weighing it down. Give dull, fine and thin hair volume and shine by treating it with Roots.
If you look in our customer reviews, you'll see that some customers have had a good experience with Roots in the case of hair loss prevention. Hope this helps!Answered on 11/21/2013 by Anonymous
A:I have used it twice and already am seeing less loose hair in my brush. I have high hopes that it will help stop the hair loss!Answered on 10/16/2013 by Aeryn from South central Texas
Q:I just bought a jar of this yesterday and noticed that the "best used by" date is only 2-3 days from now. How important/accurate is this date? Did I just waste 20 bucks on an expired product??Asked on 7/12/2013 by Petra from St. Louis
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A:Roots has a shelf life of 14 months from the date that it's made, so if you bought it recently, you should have about a year to use it! Our expiration dates are typically printed out in DD-MM-YY format.Answered on 9/20/2013 by Brandy from LUSH
Q:how often should you use this product?Asked on 6/11/2013 by michelle
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A:It's really up to the individual how often they want to use a product, but we generally recommend giving at least a day between treatments, so you could use it 2-3 times a week. You may also find that over time you can reduce how often you use it, moving to 1-2 times a week or less.Answered on 9/25/2013 by Anonymous
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I have been told that it is okay to use 2-3 times a week.Answered on 8/5/2013 by Merry-Belle from Los Angeles, Ca
Q:How often should I use this product?Asked on 5/3/2013 by Taylor
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A:Roots can be used once or twice per week, or every couple of weeks or months. It really just depends on your own personal needs!Answered on 9/20/2013 by Melissa S from LUSH Direct
Q:safe for color treated hair?Asked on 4/25/2013 by pitbullmama82 from dallas
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A:Although we do not test our hair care products on color treated hair, Roots does not contain ingredients that are stripping to the hair. You shouldn't find that it affects your color.Answered on 9/20/2013 by Melissa S from LUSH Direct
Q:is this safe for color treated hair?Asked on 4/24/2013 by pitbullmama82 from dallas
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A:Although we do not test our hair care products on color treated hair, Roots does not contain ingredients that are stripping to the hair. You shouldn't find that it affects your color.Answered on 9/20/2013 by Melissa S from LUSH Direct
Q:How often should you use it?Asked on 4/8/2013 by SuzyIrene from las vegas, nv
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A:Roots can really be used as often as you like depending on your own needs for your particular hair. Some people choose to use it every couple of weeks while some find that it is best used every couple of months!Answered on 9/16/2013 by Melissa S from LUSH Direct
Q:Can you leave this on overnight? If you've tried this, have you found it any more effective than just leaving it in for the 20-30 minutes per the instructions?Asked on 3/16/2013 by Allie from San Francisco, CA
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A:We wouldn't recommend leaving the product on the scalp for more than 20 minutes, as it's meant to be rinsed out.Answered on 3/19/2013 by Megan from LUSH Direct
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Can I use both shampoo and conditioner after?Asked on 11/23/2012 by Nowie from Canton, MA
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A:I would say you could use this treatment once or twice a week to keep the product around a little longer!
I read on the actual product jar before I used it that you shampoo it out as you normally would, however they recommend only using a little bit of conditioner, I would guess to avoid weighing the hair down. I shampooed as normal and only applied conditioner to the ends of my hair and not on the scalp because it already felt conditioned. I would say just try to find a balance.Answered on 3/4/2013 by Kelsey B. from Saint Joseph, MO
A:It's best to use The Roots once or twice a week to give your scalp a bit of a break between treatments, and you can certainly use shampoo and conditioner after!Answered on 3/8/2013 by Brandy from LUSH
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WASHINGTON - During National Eating Disorder Awareness Week from Feb. 24 to March 2, local organizations will host events to raise awareness for an illness that affects 20 million women and 10 million men in the United States.
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What was your reason for starting Rock Recovery?
The gap between residential treatment and what you can get in terms of treatment from a therapist or dietitian that you work with, or even from a support group, became very apparent to me. I have had friends who have gone into residential treatment and relapsed coming out again, and again, and again.
Then there are so many people who see a therapist, who see a dietitian and just get worse, and worse, and worse. I fundamentally believe if there were more support in that middle ground, more robust care, fewer people would have to go into a higher level of care and more people when they come out of higher level of care would be able to sustain their recovery.
How does Rock Recovery bridge that gap?
We provide group therapy, group meals and a really big variety of experiential therapy like art therapy. We integrated a lot of what they do in residential and put it in a community setting and then supplement that with mentoring and a treatment team approach where you have a whole team focused on a client and monitoring their progress.
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You mentioned the different types of therapy you have like the art therapy. Do you have other types?
I think the coolest one is called NIA. It's a mind body movement class. It's very therapeutic for someone with an eating disorder because it's all about feeling what's going on in your body and expressing that through your movement. An eating disorder is a lot about suppressing feelings and cutting off mind from body so it provides your mind a way to engage with your body in a safe and expressive way.
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Posted 21 March 2006 - 22:07
Growing up in Dublin and being racing mad, I was intrigued to come across a school colleague one time (who was only at my school for a short time). His name was Sidney Taylor (iirc) and he said his Dad was a Formula One team manager.
I have seen Sid Taylor's name mentioned quite a lot around here recently but I know very little of the man or his career / exploits. Can anyone shed some light on this seemingly well accomplished Irishman.
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Edited by Jerry Entin, 14 May 2011 - 12:52.
Posted 22 March 2006 - 05:53
Team Elite rather than Church Farm, surely
Originally posted by philippe charuest
in the late sixties he was running a team call "church farm" with some lola t70 in sportscar and a mclaren in f5000 for peter gethin ,the cars were white with a green stripe and a clover leaf, i thinq that later he was associated with ensign in f1
And the motif is much more likely to have been a shamrock than a cloverleaf ;)
Posted 22 March 2006 - 07:15
Seems like a Sid Taylor biography would be a good read.
Posted 22 March 2006 - 07:37
Here is Sid Taylor going to the line at the 1975 Long Beach Grand Prix:
Sid helped an awful lot of young drivers on their way to becoming World Champions and Forumla 5000 Champions. And as you say never recieved much praise for his effort. Of all the drivers who drove for Sid I would say Peter Gethin and Denis Hulme enjoyed him the most. They liked being part of his effort and understood he was a private entrant with not very much outside backing. They never complained and both did a great job for Sid and his head mechanic Ron Bennett. I remember Derek Bell was also very nice to Sid when he ran for him at Elkhart Lake in 1972. In 1966 in the RAC Sports Car Races Sid's car won 5 of the 8 events and in 1968 his cars won 7 of the 9 events. In 1971 Sid Taylor won the prestigous Nigel Moores award from the British Racing Drivers Club, This award is for the best performance by a private entrant in International Motor Racing.The World Champion Drivers who drove for Sid were Hulme, Rosberg, Brabham, Scheckter and Jones. His Formula 5000 Champions were Gethin and Scheckter and he helped Brian Redman in 1971 and brought him to the States in The Chevron owned by Brian in 1972. Brian won his Championships for the Haas/Hall Team. He also had one Indy 500 winner drive for him Cheever. Cheever drove for Sid in Formula One. Pushing the car are Graham Donaldson and Julian Randles. At the back are Sid Taylor and our great friend Cliff Startin and Jerry Entin. I would call this picture " Here comes the Thunder." Tony Brise was unbelievable. photo above from Frank S.
Edited by Jerry Entin, 28 January 2011 - 19:51.
Posted 22 March 2006 - 09:01
The following season saw Gethin (and briefly Wisell) in a livery I would more normally associate with Sid Taylor.
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Jerry's caption: 'Would you buy a used car from either of these guys...?'
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Posted 22 March 2006 - 14:06
Originally posted by kayemod
Wasn't the 1969 orange semi-works Church Farm Racing M10A run by Derek Bell's step-father Bernard Holder? The green and white Sid Taylor car, also semi-works, was an M10B for the 1970 season. After Pete Gethin moved on, Sid ran Brian Redman in the less than sparkling M18. Anyone remember that little shark motif on Peter Gethin's helmet? If you asked about it's significance, the explanation you got depended on who you were, most people were told that it was Pete's birth sign, but a few were told that it represented Sidney Taylor.
Wasn't it Bernard HENDER (not Holder)? Known as "Colonel" for some reason, although I don't think he actually was one.
Posted 22 March 2006 - 14:06
Posted 22 March 2006 - 14:33
Originally posted by ian senior
Wasn't it Bernard HENDER (not Holder)? Known as "Colonel" for some reason, although I don't think he actually was one.
You're right it was Hender not Holder, for some reason I was thinking of the pop group Slade. On Pete Gethin's helmet sharks, I vaguely remember two sharks swimming in opposite directions, any guesses about the possible identity of the second one? Or maybe they were both meant to reperesent Sid.
Posted 22 March 2006 - 15:18
Mallory has hit the nail on the head. Sid made his monies in the plant hire business. That would be in the states someone who put in driveways or such work. As you said it would be very hard for an individual to do the type of racing Sid was doing. Sid had a lot of friends in racing and was given cars at cost and engines at cost. Still an individual couldn't afford to enter Formula One and through Sid's association with Vern Schuppan he met Teddy Yip. Teddy made it possible for Sid to go Indy car racing and into Formula One. Bobby Unser has said Teddy was very nice but if he would have just spent a little more he would have done way better. This was also Sid's problem. If Teddy would have just given them a little more funds they could have done a lot better. It was Teddy's money and no one could tell him how to spend it and when he decided to quit that was his decision. Peter Gethin told me the sharks were Lou Stanley and Sid. With a smile on his face.
Edited by Jerry Entin, 24 March 2014 - 10:26.
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Without wishing to go into personal stuff, where did Sid get his cash from ? I imagine even in the late 60s/early 70s, owning and running a racing team must have needed quite a bit of dough. Did he have a good business on the side, or was he from a moneyed family ? Anyone know, as I agree he seemed a very interesting character.
I remember reading somewhere that Sid made a lot of money renting out JCBs during the foot and mouth disease outbreak in the UK in 1967.
Posted 22 March 2006 - 22:56
At that point though, the entry list stated he was : S.Taylor, Walsall.
Indeed I suspect he may even have won something pretty big at Dunboyne, or was that Tommy Hayden ?
Anyway he also gave the Lola T140 its first ever race appearance (at Phoenix Park) - although for the life of me I can't remember who drove it that day. That marked the beginning of F5000 in Europe.
The partnership with Denny Hulme, first with Brabham BT8 and then Lola T70 came shortly after Sid hung up his helmet.
As we say in the emerald Isle he 'looks very like himself' in that pic with Mr Entin. I Hope he's continuing to flourish in the US.
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BTW, (OT) I met Bernard Devaney's son at Laguna recently and he is a very impressive and bright young man. Although he is the reserve driver for the A1GP team and so does not get to drive, rather than sitting around doing nothing, he took it upon himself to work in the data processing side of the team. In doing so he is providing a valuable resource as well as learning skills that will make him a more complete driver when he gets his chance. I hope he gets a drive somewhere because he would be a great representative of Irish motorsport.
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Posted 27 March 2006 - 18:00
I just found out a couple of months ago that he and he alone was the only one that wanted me in the team as opposed to the other two ar******s Julian Randals and Jo Ramirez. If i had known at the time maybe i could have handled being told by them that i was a wanker a little better.
But now i know that Sid stuck his neck out for me and i have to thank him belatedly.
Posted 27 March 2006 - 18:30
I said well that car is junk than. He was trying so hard he was pink. I believe Tommy ran into the same trouble. In my opinion if Tommy would have taken the test driver position with McLaren and got more accoustomed to Formula One cars we would have seen alot more of him in Formula One.
Edited by Jerry Entin, 29 November 2010 - 03:44.
Posted 29 March 2006 - 03:33
it was good to read about sid .there are many stories out there
graham donaldson
Posted 30 March 2006 - 14:14
Given the list of drivers alone, there must be some marvellous stories to be told...
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Edited by Jerry Entin, 24 July 2013 - 09:06.
Posted 09 May 2006 - 02:28
What great stories that was written about him.It was good to see photos of Ron Bennet and Julian
Randall.I worked for Sid as well ,as I have been in racing since 1968 ,BUT I have more Sid taylor stories than any of the other teams that I worked for.I was happy to see Tommy has written in as well.The F 5000 had good races that series should be still around
Graham Donaldson
Posted 09 May 2006 - 03:37
Originally posted by MoMurray
Thanks Jerry, fascinating stuff. Sid Taylor must be the unsung hero of Irish motorsport. In an age when EJ and Irv and the rest of them can't take a piss without some newspaper covering it, it is amazing to me that someone with as full a resume as Taylors was almost unknown in his homeland, at least outside of motor racing circles...or maybe I was just very sheltered.
Seems like a Sid Taylor biography would be a good read.
it is awonder that no one has written a book about Sid.
The story would be good ,but there would be some stories!!!
Graham Donaldson
Posted 09 May 2006 - 06:28
Pic taken in the pitlane at Brands.
Posted 12 May 2006 - 20:49
Denis Hulme after winning the Tourist Trophy at Oulton Park, June 1968
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Posted 13 May 2006 - 09:54
Originally posted by Jerry Entin
In 1975 Sid called me and said to enter his lola T 332 for the Long Beach race that was up coming. He said he was being sponsered by Teddy Yip of Theodore Racing and he was bringing over a young guy I would like. I said who is he. He said his name is Tony Brise and he was the Formula 3 and go kart champ of England. Sid said he was bringing his new wife Janet with. I said what kind of a car do they like. He said Tony's father in law had a Jensen could I get him one. I called my friend Chic Vandagriff of Hollywood Sportscars and said do you have a new Jensen in stock He said he had a new convertible a green one. I said could I borrow it for Tony Brise he was Graham Hill's protege and was coming to drive for my friend Sid Taylor at Long Beach. Chic said sure. When we got out to Long Beach Graham Hill came over and said are you going to make my boy look good? I said we will try our hardest. I got Kerry Agapiou and Graham Donaldson to work on the car. Sid brought over Julian Randles. Tony won his heat race and was leading the main when a halfshaft broke. Graham Hill came up to me and said " Well I guess they know we were here." Just than Franz Weis and Troy Rogers came up and said Tony really drove great. Graham Hill just smiled. As they walked away he said to me those are two great guys. I said they are Brian Redman's mechanic's they just won the race. After the race Parnelli Jones came up to me and said what planet did you get that kid from. He owned the cars of Andretti and Al Unser. No one in the States had ever heard of Tony Brise. Sid did a great job of running the Team and It was just bad luck he didn't get a win in Long Beach. Sadly shortly after this while coming back from a Formula One test in Graham Hill's plane. Tony and Graham were lost. The picture above is us in the pits. This story is for MCS
Great story, Jerry.
I remember the race being well covered in the UK with various colour pictures appearing. It looked absolutely fantastic. Must have been really quite something to have witnessed it first hand though.
I guess the book on Tony Brise, Tom Pryce and Roger Williamson must be about due for publication now...
Posted 13 May 2006 - 18:15
Sid behind the wheel in the 1960s;
Sid by his Chrysler 300 recently;
Posted 14 May 2006 - 08:44
Fabulous! Three hearty cheers for Sid, and the memories he gave us.
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Any idea of the meaning of those two fishes pictured on P. Gethin's helmet ?
André Acker.
Posted 19 June 2006 - 21:52
The reason Jerry wanted that pic posted was because the 'sharks' were mentioned in an earlier post (possibly in a different thread) with one representing Sid.
Having said that, I'm sure I remember Peter telling me late-1973 that they were dolphins, and represented his star-sign Pisces...
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NEW YORK STATE -- Dean Skelos and Jeff Klein, who are now partners in controlling the agenda of the State Senate, got a firsthand look at the destruction in the Rockaways, one of the hardest hit areas by Hurricane Sandy. The leaders announced a new bi-partisan Senate task force to assist in the recovery and eventually draft legislation to help those most affected.
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Smith said, "I believe, and I'm sure that Senator Klein and Senator Skelos can tell you, this is probably the most significant task force that the Senate has put in place since its existence."
Smith is the newest Democrat to break away from his party and join the Independent Democratic Conference. Over the weekend, Al Sharpton held a rally where African American lawmakers said the new governing coalition, not only ignores the will of the people who voted for a Democratic majority, but as a result, also excludes black and Latino senators from holding leadership positions and committee chairmanships.
Klein said, "This new coalition is not an exclusive club. It's open to anyone, Democrat or Republican, who is serious about governing."
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In the "real world" that's 80% Romney
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2/3 Romney
In the "real world" that's 80% Romney
Romney looked maniacal and Obama seemed disinterested or distracted. Of course, no ones knows what's going on in secret around the world. Two people show up to debate, one with no responsibility, the other, responsible for keeping the world together.
"Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind."--Dr. Seuss
Obama did a terrible job tonight in the debate. He let Romney walk all over him, and missed so many opportunities to call out Romney on such glaringly obtuse contradictions to Romney's own campaign. And that closing statement? Awful. That's your 2 minutes you know to rehearse for. Shape up, Mr. President.
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Per my challenge to myself, I have refrained from watching any post-debate commentary- I even rmanaged to resist reading any posts in this thread before posting. So, time to make a complete ass of myself... I will amend this once I have the proper talking points...
I think overall the debate was kinda blah... I didn't see any "gotcha/a-ha" moment/implosion that is going to get serious airplay post-debate. I do think Romney was able to make this debate about Obama and his record. I think particularly early on, Romney came across better to truly undecided voters- obviously nothing major happened that is going to change minds. I do think Romney lost a little steam midway though when it became very apparent that he was still going to refuse to talk about the specifics of any of his policy changes; I loved how he completely pivoted dropping the tax/budget plan he has been promoting for the last year. I think the president's best moments were pointing out this recurring theme of no plans on the part of Romney. Though I disagree with his point/logic, I think Romney's most compelling line was about spending $90 billion on renewable energy that could have been spent on hiring two million teachers. I think Romney's position of still refusing to actually stand for anything specific helped him here as the president has an actual record and is not afforded the same luxury. And, finally, as I've said before, all Romney had to do to "win" was repeat ad naseum how bad the economy is- which he did.
Thus, overall, regarding the immediate effect of the debate on viewers at home, I think Romney had the slight advantage. However, in the longer term- once the media gets ahold of the fact the Romney still refuses to talk about "complicated" specifics and subequently presses him/ his capaign on this- I think it becomes closer to a wash.
Overall, I see Romney getting a 1-1.5% bounce in the national polls from this by the end of the week. Now time to turn on MSNBC and see what I got wrong.
I'll admit, Romney did a lot better than I expected him to, but he didn't hit a home run either.
Problem was, it was "Massachusetts Mitt" up there, not the "Republican Romney" that the GOP picked. The TeaBaggers and Evangelicals aren't going to like that one bit.
Obama needed to be more on the offensive, not on the defensive. Then again, if he got too aggressive on Romney, it would've made Obama look like a bully or an asshole. Hopefully, Obama used this opportunity to gauge Romney and adjust his tactics for Round 2 & 3.
I hope the next debate has someone else as moderator. Dude totally lost control of the debate, and just let everyone go past the allotted time and speak over each other.
The bad news for Romney is that while he managed not to swallow his own tongue, he gave Obama a lot of ammo for next round, once FactCheck debunks 90% of what Romney said.
Hmmmmm, just finished watching the debates on the Tube. While Obama could have done so much better, I wonder if his plan was to let Romney stick his foot in his mouth. Yes, Romney seemed more animated and aggressive, but I can't get over how tacky he came across as he fought with Jim Lehrer ( whowasted 3 minutes telling everybody they had 2 minutes left).
So I did my best to ignore all that hand waving Romney was doing and paid attention to what he was saying.
His whole economic plan, yes the plan he chastised non-partisan groups who gave him an F for arithmetic suddenly went out the window!
He's gonna replace Obamacare with. . . . .Obamacare? Huh?
He went on this spiel about lowering rates and cutting spending and providing no revenue. He'd just close loopholes and deductions without giving any specifics! Even if I were an overrated, knuckleheaded undecided voter, I'd still want to know what Romney is going to do.
I can't believe he flip-flopped in front of the whole nation!
It was pretty even. Romney didn't win squat... refuj is right. Conservatives on here will try to paint this as a win... but the reality is it's not. I think it was more for Obama to see what Romney is like. One of my friends said Romney was like a shady used car salesman trying to sell a shitbox tonight... and he does it with a fake smile and lies. I tend to agree with the assessment.
Romney didn't destroy anyone. It's not "over".
And Romney may get a small bounce, until the next tape comes out.
Look at it this way, what Romney says in the 47% tape is what he really feels. People wonder where he stands.... that's it. I figured it out. Where he stands is not what he says in public.
I just don't get why some here were so excited about his performance. Can you point to some specifics he offered? Oh wait... that's right. He's up there selling us a lemon. And if I recall the debates have a really marginal effect on polling... a 1-1.5% jump is far less then what Romney got at the convention.
Not only that Romney was wrong on various issues, including on the petroleum industry. I hope Polifact dissects his entire set of BS.
I thought it was a good message, but I imagined that the Republicans were squirming in their seats. This was the old, liberal Mitt, raising its ugly head again (and once again delivering yet another inconsistent message).
In formal debates, the speakers can see a clock which counts down their available time. They can see when time is running out, and wrap up their comments. They are not permitted to speak one second beyond their allotted time.
That was awful.
1) Jim Lehrer needs to retire. Hand him his hat and overcoat and "farewell" Harry and David deluxe fruit basket and call him a taxi. NO moderator worth his salt let's himself get "steamrolled" by the man standing behind the podium. I don't care WHO that man is... It was embarrassing.
2) They will be wearing fur coats in Hell tomorrow because Gov. Romney won this debate this evening, (Pains me as it does to say that...)
3) WHO exactly removed Obama's testicles before this event ? I realize it's your anniversary, Mr. President, but save a little jizz for AFTER the debate, could ya ? I've never seen the man look SO dejected. He had the affect of a 10 year-old whose older brother just pissed in his Count Chocula.
SO many missed opportunities. NO mention of that "lazy, no account" 47 percent of the population.
I couldn't believe what I was seeing.
Perhaps Obama is playing his cards close to his vest and is going to lay down an inside straight on the table when Romney least expects it. But, they're only a couple of rounds left and our country's fate hangs in the balance.
Color me officially worried at this point in the game.
As usual, most of what Romney said was a lie, most of what Obama said was true.
Romney pays for initial success with first wave of fact checks.
Obama wins for truth - although I don't suppose anyone cares about that.
Still, Barrack could have at least downed a Red Bull or 2 before hand and put a bit more pep in his debate.
I think Romney's provided plenty of message for Democrats to use out on the campaign trail. He dropped the conservatives like a hot potato and revealed that Massachusetts moderate they've been suspicious of from the get-go. Not that there's anything wrong with that, but it's just not how today's conservatives roll. It'll be interesting to see how he transitions back into a "severe conservative".The problem for Obama (and Democrats generally) is that they focus on the message, not the delivery. Audiences invariably judge debates not on how reasonable is the message, but on the demeanor and apparent confidence of the debaters. Obama needs to focus on his presentation, not his message.
I also get the impression that Romney kinda blew his wad on this debate. I just can't believe that the "47%" and "self-deport" comments will not come up in future debates, and by that time people won't remember the first debate. That could be where Obama and his team are hedging their bets. It's that last debate that's going to count, and Obama's taken Mitt's measure.
Lmao. Well Im glad someone else picked up on this, Romney destroyed himself tonight. He did put his foot in his mouth, Obama did let himself get raped by Romney. Mitt just cant catch a break, and this debate will catch up to him, like every other dumb thing he has said in front of or behind an audience.
I can see it now, "Mitt we know you only tell the truth when your behind closed doors, how do we know your telling the truth now?"
Breaking News from Chance .... "Mitt won the debate". As if you didn't hear that 10,000 times already on here. Who is really disagreeing with you on here that you feel the need to keep repeating it? From what I see, everyone basically is agreeing with you.
However, what is your reply above supposed to mean? Are you implying that I was saying that Lehrer "didn't help Obama enough"????
I was criticizing Lehrer for allowing Obama to speak over by 4 minutes.
Telling it like it is.
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"What it appears you experienced did in fact not happen"
Mark Halperin said the Pres. Was dominated
People who watched ......: see that Mitt is strong, smart and isn't afraid to be Pres
Interested to see the "he's a liar" media inserts
As u recall And the overplayed "fact check" stuff
Clearly Obama needs more notes - more cue cards - more earpieces to hear then say rebuttals
2 more to go
So mitt doesn't have much time to celebrate
My impression is Obama was overconfident. The media polls, by exaggerating the probable Democrat turn out, have created the impression that Obama has it in the bag. Obama went into the debate thinking, the voters are with me, Romney's ideas are wrong, the whole debate is a waste of time. While Romney was talking, Obama was looking down and saying to himself, yeah, yeah, yeah, blah, blah, blah. Let's get this over.
As you know, I have consistently predicted, not only a Romney win, but a landslide. His victory in the debate confirms my opinion, but I think a landslide was inevitable anyway.
Obama is in more trouble next time, talking about foreign policy.
But Ryan v Biden will be the most fun. With Biden, nothing is too outrageous and, backed into a corner, trying desperately to make up for Obama's loss, he will be at his most unpredictable. Gaffecity here we come.
Poor Barry. He should have followed Biden's advice . . .
I do feel sorry for all those people in Chicago who had to stay up all night and scheme a response?
Will it be that Obama had the flu? or was suffering from a rare migraine?
This is the best spin so far on Obama's loss last night . . . it was the oxygen level in Denver.
Jim Lehrer did a terrible job. He allowed Romney to bully his way around the debate. Romney likes to be in control of the situation and like any spoiled child he's used to getting his own way.
The President should have taken the several opportunities to stand up to Mitt's lies but didn't.
I guess I didn't miss anything by not watching. I was watching my box set of Keeping Up Appearances, lol. And oh my goodness, i went to get my drivers license renewed today and damn, I thought I was applying for a loan, lol. I remember you just had to provide your old license and that was that. I had to have my SS card, birth certificate and 2 forms with my address on it, lol. I was like damn, I will have to come back later. Good thing my mother still had my certficate on her lock box, lol. I guess there is a downside to paying all your bill electronically, lol, I been rambling for anything from my insurance company, lol. I guess I have to go ask the landlord for an actual receipt.
He got that thickness, the kind that make you get up makin' biscuits with breakfast, so gone - Jill Scott - So Gone
"Thirty-one* states allow all qualified citizens to carry concealed weapons. In those states, homosexuals should embark on organized efforts to become comfortable with guns, learn to use them safely and carry them. They should set up Pink Pistols task forces, sponsor shooting courses and help homosexuals get licensed to carry. And they should do it in a way that gets as much publicity as possible. "
--Jonathan Rauch, Salon Magazine, March 13, 2000
*the number is now forty
"Thirty-one* states allow all qualified citizens to carry concealed weapons. In those states, homosexuals should embark on organized efforts to become comfortable with guns, learn to use them safely and carry them. They should set up Pink Pistols task forces, sponsor shooting courses and help homosexuals get licensed to carry. And they should do it in a way that gets as much publicity as possible. "
--Jonathan Rauch, Salon Magazine, March 13, 2000
*the number is now forty
"Thirty-one* states allow all qualified citizens to carry concealed weapons. In those states, homosexuals should embark on organized efforts to become comfortable with guns, learn to use them safely and carry them. They should set up Pink Pistols task forces, sponsor shooting courses and help homosexuals get licensed to carry. And they should do it in a way that gets as much publicity as possible. "
--Jonathan Rauch, Salon Magazine, March 13, 2000
*the number is now forty
They might get the candidates energized enough to get some blood flowing.
"Thirty-one* states allow all qualified citizens to carry concealed weapons. In those states, homosexuals should embark on organized efforts to become comfortable with guns, learn to use them safely and carry them. They should set up Pink Pistols task forces, sponsor shooting courses and help homosexuals get licensed to carry. And they should do it in a way that gets as much publicity as possible. "
--Jonathan Rauch, Salon Magazine, March 13, 2000
*the number is now forty
Clearly Obama failed in the debate- Romney told lie after lie and the Prez didn't call him on one of them...Lehrer was worthless as a moderator- he works for PBS and Romney says he wants to shut it down- ah, Jim- you still let him rail road you after that??? Romney kept going on and on about how much he would help the poor and Obama doesn't mention the 47% comment once???? 90% of what Romney said last night was contrary to what he's been saying the last year- the ole etch a sketch got a work out last night!!! Sadly, he'll probably get a 1-2 point bump out of it...undecided voters won't fact check- if the gave a damn about the facts, they would have checked them by now!
I emailed the campaign (in response to a request for a donation) that the President ought to call Romney out on that 12 million job claim right off the bat in the next debate, regardless of format. There's not a reputable economist on the planet who thinks that can be done -- unless Romney wants to increase the deficit by a trillion a year to revive the CCC.
"Thirty-one* states allow all qualified citizens to carry concealed weapons. In those states, homosexuals should embark on organized efforts to become comfortable with guns, learn to use them safely and carry them. They should set up Pink Pistols task forces, sponsor shooting courses and help homosexuals get licensed to carry. And they should do it in a way that gets as much publicity as possible. "
--Jonathan Rauch, Salon Magazine, March 13, 2000
*the number is now forty
The problem is- he won't fess up and people and undecideds are too stupid to realize/check...Repubs stick to their lies...WMDs, Trickle down, etc etc etc
Two points:
1. Romney won this debate, that's obvious. Obama was inert, and though he did manage to land a few punches, he largely left Romney to rampage free. I think he came underprepared and expecting Romney to just lie and make himself look stupid. Romney lied his ass off, but didn't appear stupid. I expect next debate to be better. Obama is a superb debater, he won't fail twice.
2. Romney did not "destroy" Obama. Truth is, the bump he will get from this is not going to be huge. By this point the only people who don't know who they're voting for, have either lived under a rock until now, or are complete and total morons. Anyone who would change their mind on who to vote for based on Romney's confident vagueness from last night clearly needs to stick to Jersey Shore and leave voting for the grown-ups...
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27 points on Romney myths
[Replication of copyrighted document; Removed by Moderator] © 2005-2012 Center for American Progress Action Fund
Source Link (added by moderator): http://thinkprogress.org/politics/20...in-38-minutes/
Could have just put link to article from Think Progress- but makes more of a point actually seeing them
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Romney 's new found positions will be used to box him in at later debates. perhaps it is strategic on Obama's part .
This initial to-and-fro is informative and rightly partisan. Has the Fat Lady been scheduled for the last debate? See ya 11/7.
Don't know if this has been posted yet... most of Mitt Romney's claims were either "mostly false" or "completely false" according to Politifact. Obama was telling the truth on most of the things he said, including on Romney wanting to raise taxes on the middle class. I have the feeling that the Obama campaign wanted the used car salesman, erhm... politician to say as much bullshit as he could so they could sink him later in ads. He's a compulsive liar. Very little of what he said was the truth, and the tid bit on college grads while truthful doesn't take into account context. College grads take time to find the right job... while doing temporary jobs in the meantime.
Mitt Romney the compulsive bullsh*t artist, and I strongly believe that this "initial win" will turn into a loss. He put his foot into his mouth even if it was sugarcoated.
Sugary on the outside, rotten on the inside. I'm glad certain folks thought it was necessary to gush over his used car salesman performance. Congratulations you just bought a lemon.
Oh and will the racist comments stop in this thread? I'm sure there is a Log Cabin message board one or two particular posters (who I will not name) can visit.
Obama didn't make a fool of himself. Most of the stuff he said was truthful or mostly truthful, according to a non-partisan website. Boasting over the sugary performance by Romney may be the initial reaction, but if you dive deeper you'll see it's just sugarcoating. Obama will have to bring up the lies Romney said... Romney was outright lying at certain points.
I think Obama made two tremendous mistakes during the debate, the first which is kind of understandable, the second which is incomprehensible:
1.) The campaign misjudged that Romney would, in fact, still not only refuse to outline ANY of the details on ANYTHING (taxes, budget, health care, Dodd-Frank, etc.) , but would even backtrack on the sprinkling of minor details he has been campaigning on for the last 18 months. The ludicrousness of which left the president (and me) dumbfounded, but he never really called Romney out on this. I mean, how hard is it to say, "So, you've told us the magical good things about your plan, but not how it would actually be feasible. Would you hire someone who refused to provide such details? I guess we will just have to take your word on it- just like on your taxes..."
2.) The Obama campaign seemed tremendously overconcerned with hurting Obama's "likeability" ratios, which was an epic miscalculation... Obama is sly enough that he comes across as likeable even when throwing subtle jabs. Noone wanted him to be acerbic... but, I mean, something... He didn't have to bring up "zingers" on his own, but simply respond to Romney's nonsense with something for the soundbites... how is 47% mentioned not once when Romney starts railing about how much he loves the poor?
That being said, I stand by my statement that no major lasting "sound bite" was created. Obama had the potentially strong but underplayed "Romney's plan is suddenly 'nevermind'" and Romney's most memorable sound bite was about Big Bird. Thus, there was no knockout blow, but Romney clearly won the stylistic battle on points throughout. The Obama campaign will be able to mitigate some of the damage in "fact checks" of Romney's nonsense... assuming the jobs report is not horrendous... but certainly not all of it. Unfortunately, a debate is about style not substance... and, as we joked about in another thread, most undecideds aren't exactly "high information" voters...
Last edited by ReadyWithReadyWit; October 4th, 2012 at 02:44 PM.
All the babble about Romney's lack of specificity overlooks that Obama's only plan for the economy is more "tax the rich". And quibling about the accuracy of each others statistics will not win votes. It is just quibbling. Calling everything Romney says a lie is just partisan sqwabbling, which the public does not want to hear.
Next he has to face the public over his failed foreign policy. It will not be a pretty picture.
Romney came to Fight last night and Obama came with the Facts....For Style & Performance Romney gets an A+ and the Crown...Obama gets an F- for taking the Nice President route and letting Romney dance all over that stage....
The main thing I took away from last night's debate is that Romney will say ANYTHING to become President. I believe he'd sell out Ann and his children to accomplish the one thing his Dad could not....
And I know The Donald was tickled to Death that the President said his name...