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November 7, 2012
Colette Macaron 2.0
Dear Colette, you've been telling me for years to trace my patterns rather than cutting out my size, and I, as a lazy sewer, ignored you. Now I know I should have heeded your advice. I'm working on cutting several patterns right now, many that I have already used, and I realize I've changed sizes so much that I've had to re-cut or re-trace nearly all these patterns. Ooops. I've learned my lesson. From now on I'm a tracer, not a cutter.
Thanks, Dixie
The Goal: Earlier this year I analyzed my wardrobe and found that one of my "needs" was "church appropriate" dresses. Garments that I rarely wear but when an event comes up like a wedding you really need something nice.
These dresses used to be my Anouk dress and my Macaron from last October. One was summery, the other winter. Perfect! I could check that one off the "need" list.
But now both of them don't fit. They're too big. And not in a way that I could easily fix by sewing up the sides. I am so sad about this! I LOVED both of these dresses! They were my favorites and I wore them regularly even when I wasn't going to a wedding.
So two weekends ago when I had to go to a wedding I was at a loss. I didn't have enough time to make a new dress and I didn't have any other "nice" dresses that would work for a night-time, chilly, fall wedding. I gave in and bought a sweater dress at Target!! Shocking! I know, I'm so ashamed!
I figured I should stop moping about my loss of my former Macaron and make another. And here she is!
The Pattern: Colette's Macaron, and probably my fave Colette pattern of them all. I love the sweetheart neckline and the cute sleeve detail and the nifty pocket placement!
The Fabric: I made this dress on a whim so it was good that I had this stuff in my stash. The top is leftover Swiss Dot from this Burda Blouse and the floral is a pretty cotton lawn (I kind of echoed the style of my original Macaron). Both fabrics are from Fabricker in Austin but you can also buy the fabrics online!
The Changes: Not much. The pattern calls for a facing for the neckline but I lined the whole yoke instead. I used plain white batiste for the yoke and sleeve lining.
The Results: I made a size 10 the last time I made this pattern and it was a little bit too big. This time I made a 2 and it's maybe a wee bit too small. Next time I'll do a four. Hopefully that'll be the Goldilocks zone. But it's still very wearable and I think it's super cute! Success!
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This dress is adorable!ReplyDelete
Lovely dress!!!! It seems to suit your personality so well!!! It's so obvious that you love this dress and for good reason:)ReplyDeleteReplies
aww, thank you victoria!!Delete
Definitely super cute! I've got the macaron on my sewing table, just waiting for me to finish sewing my jasmine so I can FINALLY make that cute dress. Love your fabric, too.ReplyDeleteReplies
oooh, i can't wait to see your jasmine!Delete
This is so cute I love the material! So funny that's why I love PDF patterns cause you can just cut it instead of tracing them out it takes sooo long! I'm sure you will be able to work it out on the ones you have. That's a good sign your clothes getting too big I'd say that's an awesome win. I'm keeping clothes that are too small for me hoping that I will one day fit back into them lol. Give you a good excuse to make some new pretty dresses like this one!ReplyDeleteReplies
thanks :) yeah, i still cut out printed patterns because i figure i could always just cut out another copy. it's still a bummer, tho, to see clothes i've worked so hard on but now i can't wear them. oh well, time to move on!Delete
Some of my me-mades are too big now, but only because I didn't properly stabilize the waistbands or whatever. Your Macaron (auto-corrected to Macaroni on the iPhone) is adorable but makes me shiver. It's sleeting and windy here right now, so my floral dresses are taking a nap in my closet :(ReplyDeleteReplies
thanks, it was in the 80s today. :( i wish it would feel like winter!Delete
Lovely dress. I am a big fan of the Macaron, as well.ReplyDelete
You look gorgeous in this!ReplyDelete
It really is a gorgeous little dress pattern :) I'm totally loving the print fabric you pulled from your stash though - great colours, shapes and it suits you wonderfully. Win!!ReplyDelete
What a fab dress!!! I have had this pattern in my stash for ages because I just love all the versions I have seen...I'm just struggling on what fabric to use for the yoke section. Love your idea of using swiss dot!ReplyDeleteReplies
thanks! i want to try a version in a velvet or a brocade or something with a sheer organza-type yoke. I've seen some cool versions with stripes or plaids with the yoke fabric going in a contrasting direction.Delete
I nearly never trace either. I am so lazy. I regret it now, because this amazing shirt I made my husband now doesn't fit him, and I'd like to make the next size up. But it's a McCall's pattern, so wouldn't tracing destroy it anyway? All those little perforations in the fine tissue paper?ReplyDeleteReplies
hmm, maybe you're doing a different method than me? i just trace with semi-transparent paper and pencil, not a tracing wheel.Delete
Beautiful! The Macaron is my favourite of all the Collette patterns too. I love the fun fabric you chose.I have my eye on the new pants pattern though.ReplyDeleteReplies
thanks nothy! i like the junipers, too, i think i want to try the anise jacket next, though.Delete
love it. i have been meaning to make this dress for so long.ReplyDeleteReplies
you know, after making this i noticed that the waistline is kind of high. not all the way to an empire waist but higher than a natural waist. but with the pleats in the front i think this dress might work for early maternity (for later maternity you'd have to do a lot of design mods). i know you're already several months along but your comment made me think of that. ;) thanks kelli!Delete
i'm slowly switching over to tracing as well (unless i'm in a hurry and know that i can always re-purchase when a 99 cent sale comes around!). i broke down and bought a 50 yard roll of tracing paper recently, so that helps.ReplyDelete
i love your macaron, and the fabric you used is beautiful! this is definitely my favorite colette pattern.Replies
thank you! it's my fave colette pattern, too.Delete
i bought a couple rolls of tracing paper in different widths which is nice 'cause sometimes the bigger rolls get bulky for small pattern pieces.
I love the dress. I would like to see how you lined the whole yoke.ReplyDeleteReplies
thanks! i'll try to take a few pics of the inside.Delete
Oh my, this is lovely! I've had the Macaron pattern for a while and you've just reminded me why I need to make it very soon!ReplyDeleteReplies
you totally should! i think it would look great on you and i know you'd put your own style into it. :)Delete
very cute dress!ReplyDelete
I like your previous macaron and this version too. I like how you've used a solid coloured fabric with a print. You have a good eye for colour.ReplyDelete
I'm also a lazy sewer but I value multi size patterns because my size changes a lot.
Now to check out Victory patterns.
This is darling. I like the length you have, hits you in a perfect spot. Hope it was a beautiful wedding... and I wonder if we are ever going to get to sweater weather here!ReplyDelete
Super cute dress! Love the Macaron!ReplyDelete
This is adorable but not in a juvenile way! It kind of looks like you're wearing a tee underneath a strapless and sweetheart dress. This dress is DECEIVING!ReplyDelete
Really cute! I love this on you!ReplyDelete


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Friday, October 30, 2009
Friday Discussion: Dwarves With Scottish Accents
But today's topic is a serious one, one that has driven countless gamers apart over the years. It leads gamers to distraction, and is the basis of a bitter debate that has lasted until this day. Our Friday Discussion Question Is:
Should Dwarves Have Scottish Accents?
This, of course, assumes they do not hail from Scotland. But it is a well-known fact that countless dwarven characters have been stricken with a Scottish brogue over the years. Where do you stand on this incredibly important issue? However you answer on this hard-hitting issue, I still wish you a great weekend, and a Happy Halloween!
28 comments:
- Bob said...
I've always thought of them having a very germanic/nordic sound to their language. Something a bit more harsh than Scottish.
In saying that I think my main grumble with dwarves being played as Scottish is that as a Scot myself I've yet to hear a convincing faked Scottish accent that doesn't sound as though it's from Brigadoon or Ballamory.
And just where abouts in Scotland are they supposed to be from? The accent changes that much that someone on the West coast can have great difficulty understanding people from elsewhere.
If a Dwarf is to have a Scot's accent I'd rather they sounded like Begby from Trainspotting than James Bond from the Connery years. Has to be harsh and guttural.
- October 30, 2009 at 7:27 AM
- Norman Harman said...
Bah, accent doesn't matter. Real Dwarves don't waste mincing words they proceed directly to the smashing of heads with large implements.
- October 30, 2009 at 9:02 AM
- Bob said...
thats if you can get them to stop counting their gold.
- October 30, 2009 at 9:31 AM
- Gleichman said...
So Bob, you're complaining about a fictional race using a pop-culture (i.e. fictional) version of the Scottish accent.
Off hand, I'd call that overthinking the subject. Or perhaps carrying a chip on the shoulder a bit too far.
As to the original question, of course the fake Scottish accent is proper for any good dwarf. The Lord of the Rings movies locked that into a required tradition.
Anyone disagreeing with have to deal with my Axe!
- October 30, 2009 at 9:35 AM
- Bob said...
Yeah the lord of the rings just didn't sound right to my ears though. The Scot's tongue is too soft for a Dwarf.
I'm just waiting for them to start spouting 'Och Aye' or 'See you Jimmy' when the The Hobbit finally makes it onto the silver screen.
- October 30, 2009 at 9:42 AM
- Rob Conley said...
Th' ainlie characters that shuid be using Scots accents shuid be highlanders. Dwarves dae nae wear th' kilt or dirk. Thay ur nae highlanders.
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- October 30, 2009 at 9:59 AM
- jamused said...
eh, it's amusing and it passes the test for character accents: it's easy enough for amateurs to produce recognizably. It matters not at all whether it's authentic, only that the audience can recognize it. The fact that people know it's inauthentic may actually be a feature: people who are much too self-conscious to attempt an accent where they might be judged against the real world seem to be comfortable with doing the over-the-top parody accents: och aye Scottish, oh I say English, ve haff vays German, I shall taunt you a second time French, bork-bork-bork Swedish, keel moose and squirrel Russian, arrr me hearties Pirate, fur shur rilly Valley Girl...
and it's really useful for people to be able to recognize what fantasy race is being portrayed by accent alone.
- October 30, 2009 at 9:59 AM
- rologutwein said...
And all of zis brings up zee question of whethair or not zee tree hugging Elves should 'ave ze outRAGEous Fronch Accents! Oui!?
- October 30, 2009 at 10:03 AM
- Bob said...
@Rob - to be fair real highlanders never wore kilts ;) They wore the plaid. And I can't see Dwarves stripping off until they only wore a shirt before going into battle.
Kilts as we know them didn't really show up until the late 17th century.
Dwarves and the imagery associated with them have always looked nordic in origin to me. Horned helmets (no matter how historically inaccurate that is) and axes and hammers just shouts Vikings to me.
- October 30, 2009 at 10:09 AM
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- October 30, 2009 at 10:13 AM
- HinterWelt said...
A fine German accent is the ONLY way to go! ;)
- October 30, 2009 at 10:39 AM
- noisms said...
All you people arguing that Scottish accents aren't harsh enough for dwarves have clearly never been to Glasgow!
Also, Gimli from the LOTR films didn't even speak Scottish - if anything he sounded more like he was from the Welsh valleys.
I prefer Nordic or Germanic dwarves myself. I suspect ones tolerance for the "Scottish dwarf" depends on whether or not you're Scottish. I'm only half Scottish (nobody's perfect) but it's enough for me to despise fake Scotch accents.
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The scottish accent has become the default because the type-casting fits, i.e. good natured people who will react to an affront with force who are also gifted craftsmen. They also enjoy their money and spirits.
German and Norse almost work, but both imply that they will invade, kill you and carry off your women without any real cause. Not a good model for a dwarf.
When picking something from the real world to represent something fictional- it should represent what you're using it for.
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I think that having dwarves sound Scottish is fine... provided that they are culturally anything but...
If, however, dwarves in your game are heavily culturally influenced by Scottish stereotypes, you should change their accents to something incongruous. It is more fun that way.
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I would just go further on the Scots accent thing and say that more TV/movie Dwarfs seem to use Lothian, Edinburgh or Boarders accent. None of those, expecting possibly Edinburgh which could probably have been a Dwarf city, have any real connection to Dwarfy things like mining.
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The noun "couple" means "exactly two items of the same kind". The comic/chart is satirizing how layman sometimes use the word "couple" synonymously with words like "few" or "several", which in this context mean "comparatively small but definitely greater than one". This satire is nerd troll bait; Randall is attempting to "troll" or get a certain group of people fired up by taking an unpopular side of the argument just to get the other person angry.
The title text is a pun. Randall says "Try asking a couple of friends [...] unless all three of them agree" which implies a couple should always mean two.
There could be a further pun in the question. It could be construed as asking whether it would be a bad idea for a couple to partake in a ménage à trois. Maybe it wouldn't be a bad idea as long as all three of them agree.
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Several is two or more.
A handful to me is just that. A dozen berries, one hand grenade, 2-3 sticks of TNT, a bird (2 in a bush else where gives 3) or a wild blonde (more than 1 way to be a handful I guess). DruidDriver (talk) 07:09, 17 January 2013 (UTC)
English isn't my natural language, but how common is the word "acrimonious"? Should it be explained? 188.8.131.52 03:40, 2 February 2014 (UTC)
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I'm inclined to interpret the hover text as him saying that a couple does mean more than two. A couple of friends, and then all three of them. However, the entry does not agree with me. Thoughts? 188.8.131.52 09:10, 10 March 2014 (UTC)
- My guess is that the entry interpreted "all three of them agree" as "your couple of friends agree with you". I think Randell would sooner troll than use inconsistent grammar so, I also think Randell was using couple to mean 3 friends. Who PhD (talk) 13:58, 9 April 2014 (UTC)


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Wednesday, September 2, 2009
A Preponderance of Encumbrance
Now, that's not to say I let characters get away with anything; if you have 5 longswords, 2 full backpacks, a rubber tree plant, a spare chain shirt, and 50 feet of rope strapped to your back, and you are of middling strength, you're not going to be winning any races (or moving that much at all, potentially). We still do generally practice resource management—just not down to the decimal.
So, this is my question to you: am I in the minority here? Do you pay a lot of attention to encumbrance? Why or why not? If so, what does it bring to your game? I'm curious to hear other thoughts on this.
25 comments:
- Alex Schroeder said...
I keep saying that I want to use encumbrance rules, but in the end we never do. So what happens when the archer says he is carrying five quivers? What happens if the fighter is carrying a longspear in addition to a warhammer, a shield, and a ranseur? Nothing much. Sometimes we try to make fun of the player, I guess. ;)
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- September 2, 2009 at 7:54 AM
- jcosmon said...
A great point -- and I never used them, trusting in a common-sense idea of "c'mon, are you kidding me?" to guide the day.
There have been some problems, though:
1) I have always felt lazy about not doing the bookeeping 2) When I have wanted to invoke limits and institute some kind of encumbrance rules, there have been (admittedly minor) conflicts over "okay, how much is too much?" Players don't want to go to the rulebook values, as they seem too limited, but they need to know how much stuff they can carry out and how much it will effect them in combat, etc. Not having planned an alternative system, almost any imposition of minuses feels like a lot to them. I think it sometimes falls to, "you can carry up to x but no more, and that much really doesn't give you a penalty." But sometimes even this kind of fades a few games later.
Finally, I wonder, having read more game theory and game books in the last year than any point since like 1983, if not using encumbrance seems to avoid one of the main themes of resource management that true acolytes of the OSR see as crucial. The idea that managing weight, like hit points or spells, is one of those things that sets the rhythm of the game -- "we need to go back because this is all we, the henchmen, and the rented mules can carry at anything above a slow waddle." This forced players to hire and manage allies or take penalties while offering plump targets on the way back to AdventureTown to cash in their loot and bank the eps.
I don't know, I have never played it straight, and even with these caveats, I might be scared to do so.
You wrote that you keep a balance between requiring resource management and bookkeeping -- does it usually work pretty smoothly?
- September 2, 2009 at 8:09 AM
- jcosmon said...
Sorry to go on (who knew encumbrance would hit my buttons?) but do you usually give eps for treasure? If so, when do they get them -- on the getting, or the spending?
If the second, then encumbrance could be a big issue, as getting a mound of metal back to town becomes a major plot point for the players.
- September 2, 2009 at 8:12 AM
- Bonemaster said...
I don't think many people use the encumbrance rules. If they do, they usually don't use the ones that are written. I heard that some people use some sort of slot system, much like some computer games.
I know that I tend to hand wave these things. I only get technical if you will, when a player and myself can not come to an understanding of what is an acceptable amount of gear to be carrying. Usually much to the players disadvantage as usually the amount they can carry isn't even near the amount that I would let them carry.
- September 2, 2009 at 8:20 AM
- Zachary The First said...
I haven't really had any issues with a "common sense" bookkeeping approach. We play that if it isn't on your character sheet, you don't have it, so my players are pretty good about tracking those sorts of things.
I also review sheets every level (and ideally make backup copies), so if someone has decided to pick up an anvil and lug it around without saying anything, we usually catch it then. :)
My group does get some XP for treasure, as they obtain it. If it was in the spending, that would be another resource issue, wouldn't it?
- September 2, 2009 at 8:50 AM
- jcosmon said...
Well, I think that you are right that giving ep on the spending would be another resource management issue. I think for some GMs, the more resource management, the better! :)
I have never done it, but I read on different sites that some GMs did that to encourage characters to "stay hungry" (ie cash poor)to encourage adventuring and to encourage them to move towards what some folks call the "D&D endgame" -- building a keep, hiring servants, getting land, etc.
Some blogs have described players who basically say "I blow it all on wenches and drink" to get the eps.In some accounts it sounds like recreating the "Conan Syndrome" (he gets lots of diamonds and gems but is always poor at the start of the story.)
Again, not recommending it, but it is floating around out there.
- September 2, 2009 at 9:13 AM
- BlUsKrEEm said...
The4 only game I ever used Encumbrance was in X-Plorers, other than that I use common sense.
- September 2, 2009 at 9:22 AM
- DeadGod said...
In fantasy games, I just make the players count up the weight of the weapons and armor. If a character picks up something ridiculously heavy I might have them add it to their weight total. I hand-wave the rest of the weight.
In modern or sci-fi games, I discourage characters from carrying around anything larger than would fit in a pocket. (Unless they are suiting up for battle or something, then I default back to the weapons and armor total.)
- September 2, 2009 at 9:34 AM
- Rob Iannacone said...
At character creation, each player in my group looks up the maximum load in pounds they can carry without slowing them down. We basically just guesstimate the weight of their gear from there. Not terribly accurate, but meh: it's good enough for Bavarian folk music.
- September 2, 2009 at 9:37 AM
- Jerry said...
What we ended up going with in Gods & Monsters is to combine keeping track of what the character is carrying with keeping track of how much they're allowed to carry.
Each character can carry x items (based on endurance and strength); no item can weigh more than their strength. So on the back of their character sheet, they have, say, 9 slots, and if they're carrying something it needs to be written on one of those lines.
- September 2, 2009 at 10:10 AM
- Gleichman said...
I almost always use Encumbrance rules, for the simple reason that common sense isn't common.
I may modify them from the core rules (as in the case of HERO System). And depending upon the genre they may seldom apply (Superheroes comes to mind here).
But I always use them.
- September 2, 2009 at 10:10 AM
- Giga boy said...
I'm very meticulous about encumberance (I also use grids and minis!).
You should see how many players start to think that plate armor is not such a good idea in the end.
- September 2, 2009 at 10:11 AM
- Rules Magis said...
I would do like we Marines do and track a combat load. The only real time you are woried about weight in GURPS is in Combat. So this is the gear my guy fights with and his weight. A quick dropping of a pack and bamm your at your fighting weight.
- September 2, 2009 at 10:13 AM
- Stuart said...
We've always hand-waved encumbrance as well. Although I really like what was suggested in Searchers of the Unknown -- characters can have 3 weapons, or 2 weapons and a shield. I'd add to that and say if they want to carry more than that they bump down a speed category as if they were wearing heavier armour. Carrying heavy sacks of treasure or tons of gear would bump them down a speed category as well.
Not perfect, but pretty fast and hits most of the points I'd want to get out of an encumbrance system anyway.
- September 2, 2009 at 10:30 AM
- Ameron said...
As long as the PCs don't seem to be abusing the lack of encumbrance tracking then I don't care. This becomes even less relevant if they have a Bag of Holding.
As long as their equipment list seems to make sense then I'm cool with it. Until they tell me they have 3 suits of full plate and a 10-foot ladder then I'm not going to enforce encumbrance rules.
- September 2, 2009 at 10:42 AM
- Joe said...
We think of it as a guideline too. As you say, if you've got 5 long swords, 2 backpacks, etc., that's a red flag.
Here's a post I did on 5 different RPG rules subsystems that are often ignored/hand-waved/treated as guidelines: http://inkwellideas.com/?p=312
- September 2, 2009 at 11:31 AM
- Thasmodious said...
For years I wanted to use encumbrance but it was just too cumbersome. In 3e I made up separate equipment sheets, divided by item type (mundane, weapons and armor, magic consumable, etc) and had encumbrance on the sheets. I also had the PCs designate what was their adventuring load and what was their around town load. My PCs often walked around slightly encumbered out in the wild, but with carefully stuffed backpacks they would drop at the beginning of a fight to reduce encumbrance. In the end, its just not worth the bookkeeping, ti doesn't add enough to the game.
I handwave it with the common sense tag now and I use a mundane equipment houserule to eliminate bookkeeping of chalk, fishing line, pitons and other mundane items.
- September 2, 2009 at 12:27 PM
- David Nett said...
Wow. Seems like this strikes a chord for a lot of us.
Like you, my group mostly fudges encumbrance -- we commonsense it (and sometimes ignore) with armor, weapons, and normal adventuring goods (have you ever thought about how hard it would really be to carry around 50 feet of medieval hemp rope?). The places where I pay close attention are:
1) Characters who are extremely physically weak - if a player has chosen to load a really low value into his/her strength slot (which rarely happens), I make sure I watch that player like a hawk for encumbrance. Same thing, maybe to a slightly lesser extent, with endurance or constitution.
2) monetary treasure - Piles and piles of gold can be a serious problem. Because I hate keeping track of it, almost all of my parties can count on finding a bag or box of holding somewhere early on, which lets me off the hook until they accumulate a whole lot of it. I do make a point to have moneychangers in every village so they can trade-up for gems, etc.
Apart from that, I don't worry too much unless someone wants to try to carry something stupidly big and/or bulky. Encumbrance, for me, is a bit like bathroom breaks. I don;'t wanna have to keep track of bladder capacity for each character either ;-)
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- September 2, 2009 at 1:35 PM
- Ryven Astrology said...
I use a system that is somewhat blended between item slots and pure weight. Slots are useful for clothing, weapons, armor and attended gear; you have a head slot, a couple of arm slots, maybe 3 belt slots for weapons or consumables and so on. This stuff is assumed to be non-encumbering. What matters for encumbrance is what you're carrying around in bags or backpacks - those items are weighed out and applied to a slightly decreased encumbrance calculation to account for the slots. This system has the nice side effect of helping everyone keep track of just how available your goods are if you need to get to them quickly.
- September 2, 2009 at 1:45 PM
- Tim Shorts said...
We usually caculate encumbrance in the beginning to get all the correct scores, but as we play if someone get a 1000gp we don't calcualte the weight. If They find a solid gold statue that weights 20 pounds we calculate it in. When I DM I just do it in the beginning and within the game let them know their characters are being weighted down. It not a game stopper for me just a hint to go back and reload for another round.
- September 2, 2009 at 5:12 PM
I'd love to use it, but it's simply too much hassle to be constantly adjusting the total every time the PCs pick up or lose an item. I like the resource management aspect of it though... too bad.
- September 2, 2009 at 5:31 PM
- Zzarchov said...
I always use encumbrance rules, it adds to the strategic thinking, and makes players focus on what they really need. I had to right my own, simpler rules though. So that players could pick up and leave things without much hassle. It also adds the thought on how much you really need to strip down a dungeon to the grout between bricks. No more do high level heroes loot every corpse. Sometimes the coin isn't worth carrying.
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- September 2, 2009 at 6:08 PM
- Geek Gazette said...
We have always ignored and just used common sense. Luckily the majority of people I have gamed with will say, I don't think I can carry all of this and then we deal with it. Most of the time I ask them what all they have on them before giving them anything significant. If it seems like a ridiculous amount of weight I may require they come up with a way to transport the extra weight or drop some things.
We tried to use the rules once or twice and it just got to be a headache for everyone, so we quit. We don't want that level of realism anyway. If the encumberance rules made the game more fun, we would use them, but they don't and the fun is the most important part of the game.
- September 3, 2009 at 1:07 AM
- 1d30 said...
We're always found encumbrance to be a pain and a bore. Mainly because it's constantly changing! And you wear little holes in your character sheet from all the erasing, even if you've printed on cardstock.
An alternative: use the stone-weight system by Delta (1 stone is 14 pounds). A very OS way to do things would be to say the character fits within three encumbrance categories based on how much treasure he carries beyond a backpack of gear, armor, and two weapons. You get those for free.
Effectively you're assuming people who wear armor have a class-based bonus to encumbrance capacity equal to their armor.
Downside: what about people carrying extra food and water for the desert? What about a Fighter who decides to not wear armor so he can carry more treasure?
Solution: It's assumed you're carrying two weeks food and a couple days of water. You need to continually find water along the way. If you carry extra then you have to track weight and it cuts into your treasure capacity.
And your treasure capacity is the same whether your Fighter wears armor or not. Makes no sense, but it's fast.
This way you still carry more treasure if you have high Strength, but you're not constantly tracking weight of things. The bookkeeping plus the reduced treasure capacity is a punishment on the player for wanting to carry an extra suit of chainmail and seven weapons.
And using Delta's stone-weight system, you don't track small items unless you have a lot of them. And most items are a half-stone or one stone. Since you're not counting armor you probably won't carry any single item weighing more than 1.
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- September 3, 2009 at 5:13 PM
- da Trux said...
i don't think i've ever paid much attention to encumbrance rules either. it just always seemed as an unnecessary thing to worry about. but i'm always trying to streamline rules and speed up dice rolls, so i guess it isn't surprising that i feel that way
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Metallica are the global thrash metal titans. Their music, identified by fast paced beats, heavy percussion and outright aggressive guitar was introduced to their fans when they performed their first concert in 1982. They were an instant hit and continued to fuel the excitement of thrash metal and hard rock fans for over three decades. Throughout the eighties and nineties, Metallica was one of the most well received bands within the rock music community, receiving nine hit studio albums and nine Grammy awards. They went on to form part of the "Big Four" Tour alongside Megadeth, Slayer and Anthrax proving themselves as genuine masters of metal performance. Select a date to view the range of tickets available or view the Metallica tour on a map to find an event near you. You can also sell your spare Metallica tickets on viagogo, and listing tickets is free. All Metallica tickets are covered by the viagogo Ticket guarantee! Don't wait any longer - buy your Metallica tickets now!
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|Olympiapark München, München DE Muse, Metallica & Kiss - Rockavaria 2015 - 3 Day
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|Donauinsel, Wien AT Muse, Metallica & Kiss - Rock In Vienna - 3 Day
|Bergenhus Festning , Bergen NO Metallica
|Ullevi, Göteborg SE Metallica
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Formed of James Hetfield on lead vocals, Lars Ulrich on drums, Kirk Hammett and Robert Trujillo on guitar, bass and background vocals these four musical talents have formed apart of rocky history. One of the biggest selling acts in American History, Metallica started out developing demos. Their demo "Life 'Til Leather" got into the hands of Jon Zazula's, a music producer who saw Metallica's undeniable talent and pushed to launch their careers. Metallica then went on to become a recognised name in the underground rock community which gave them enough fuel to create their first album "Kill 'Em All" which was released in 1983. Metallica then went on to produce further albums and their self titled album in 1991 - better known as "The Black Album" by fans - brought the height of their success to its peak. Evolving to produce shorter, simpler and more powerful rock arrangements, Metallica showcased these new album tracks through a series of tours which saw them exert their performances to the limit. Metallica then took a brief hiatus to focus on their family lives and fatherhood. However, they soon returned recharged and more ready than ever and on April 4th 2009, they were inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. You can buy or sell your Metallica tour tickets and sign up for Ticket Alerts above to receive updates of new and upcoming Metallica 2015 tour dates at viagogo. If you have any questions about using viagogo, visit our Frequently Asked Questions page.


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