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Alberto's Italian Restaurant & Fitzgerald's Tavern
Located adjacent to the Holiday Inn Hotel & Suites in Carol Stream, Illinois, we offer some of the finest Italian cuisine in the western suburbs. Rise and shine, and join us for our bountiful breakfast buffet! Enjoy one of our delicious breakfast entrees, or have our chef prepare you an omelet cooked to order.
CITY: Carol Stream
Hollywood Stadium at Hollywood Casino
Chicagoland's most exciting sports bar and entertainment venue is now open! Watch up to eight games at once on our enormous 80 x 20 foot screen, plus over 40 flat-screen TVs, as well as personal TV's at many of the booths. Hollywood Stadium - It's what a sports bar should be.
CITY: Joliet
Chatfield's Restaurant, Hyatt Lisle
American cuisine. Casual dress code. Serving breakfast, lunch & dinner. Average cost per meal: $12-15.
CITY: Lisle
McCormick & Schmick's
McCormick & Schmick's strives to be the best seafood restaurant in its market niche. The extensive menu changes daily and features only the freshest seafood available in season, a variety of prime, choice cut steaks and our traditional scratch bar with hand-shaken cocktails. At McCormick & Schmick's, you'll experience a real dining experience that will satisfy any appetite.
CITY: Oak Brook
Market on Main Street
Friday nights will never be the same. Don't miss the all new Market on Main Street in historic downtown Oswego. There will be quality antiques, re-purposed finds, vintage treasures, handmade items, entertainment, food and more. The shops and restaurants in downtown Oswego will be open late as well. Held the last Friday of the months of July, August, and September.
CITY: Oswego
Clubhouse Restaurant, The
DuPage County, Chicago's Western Suburbs - Features the traditions and trends of American favorites in a country club setting. Offering three private rooms, featuring seasonal specialties and combinations of regional flavors.
CITY: Oak Brook
Fitzgerald's Tavern, Holiday Inn Hotel & Suites
Fitzgerald's Tavern offers a relaxing atmosphere after a day's work. We feature karaoke, and offer variaties of live performances along with several TVs to watch all your favorite teams.
CITY: Carol Stream
Capital Grille
DuPage County, Chicago's Western Suburbs - Enjoy aged steaks, chops and fresh seafood acclaimed by the nation's toughest food critics, and an award-winning collection of over 400 wines. Join us for impeccably prepared classic fare in an atmosphere that is both luxurious and relaxed.
CITY: Lombard
The Sugar Path
The Sugar Path in Geneva is an innovative dessert bakery offering cupcakes, artisan cakes and pies. They bake farm-to-table, using ingredients sourced locally from farmers and vendors they have existing relationships with. The menu changes seasonally so you'll be sure to get the freshest ingredients available.
CITY: Geneva
D.O.C. Wine Bar
DuPage County, Chicago's Western Suburbs - Have a glass or enjoy a flight from our extensive selection of over 300 wines from around the world. D.O.C. Wine Bar also serves new American cuisine in a beautiful, casual atmosphere. Lunch, dinner and late night menu available.
CITY: Lombard
Diamond's Family Restaurant
For breakfast, lunch and dinner. Includes omelettes, skillets, crepes, sandwiches, steaks, fish and more.
CITY: Joliet
Vie Restaurant
Contemporary seasonal American restaurant with an affinity for local ingredients.
CITY: Western Springs
Antico Posto
Antico Posto, translated meaning "The Old Spot", is an intimate Italian Cafe and Wine Bar carefully hidden in Oakbrook Center Mall. House specialties include homemade pastas, gnocchi, ravioli as well as house churned gelato and hand-stretched brick-oven pizza. Our wine list consists of more than 60 Italian and domestic selections, over 30 wines by the glass, 1/2 glass and 1/2 bottle.
CITY: Oak Brook
Allie's American Grille & Lounge (Marriott Suites)
DuPage County, Chicago's Western Suburbs - American cuisine. Casual dress code. Serving breakfast, lunch & dinner. Average cost per meal: $12-15. Lobby lounge serves dinner and is open daily until 11pm.
CITY: Downers Grove
RA Sushi Bar Restaurant
There's never a dull moment in the RA. In a rich and vibrant setting, RA Sushi Bar combines freshly prepared sushi and Japanese-fusion dishes with an upbeat, energetic atmosphere. The result is a place that is both unpretentious and fashionable!
CITY: Lombard
Al's Cafe & Creamery
Casual family restaurant.
CITY: Elgin
Golden Corral - Joliet
Family style restaurant offers the biggest and best buffet and grill. Offering senior discounts daily. Offers fresh baked goods and "all you can eat" sirloin steaks.
CITY: Joliet
Geneva Ale House
A beer-lover's pub featuring an excellent selection of craft-brewed beers. We also offer a full menu and are open for lunch, dinner and special events.
CITY: Geneva
Old Country Buffet - Joliet
Breakfast on weekends. Lunch and dinner prices. Menu changes daily. Family night Thursday. Buses welcome.
CITY: Joliet
The Cardinal
Cafe serving a full menu.
CITY: Morris
Gino's East - St. Charles
Join us for our world famous Chicago style deep dish pizza. Ask about our "no charge" private party room.
CITY: St. Charles
Tia Maria's
Tia Maria's serves the highest quality, family-owned authentic Mexican fare.
CITY: Geneva
Lone Star Restaurant
Open 7 days a week at 6:00 AM serving breakfast, lunch & dinner. Family restaurant with cocktail lounge. Serving homemade food and chef's specials. Excellent food, friendly service, great prices. Serving our area for more than Thirty years.
CITY: Channahon
Seasons 52
DuPage County, Chicago's Western Suburbs - Enjoy a fresh dining experience that celebrates living well at Seasons 52 fresh grill and wine bar, located at Oakbrook Center. Experience seasonally-inspired dining choices, an adventurous wine list and a casually-sophisticated ambiance.
CITY: Oak Brook
Heritage Bluffs- The Grille Room
Daily specials, casual atmosphere in the Grille Room Restaurant at the Heritage Bluffs Golf Course. Patio area, meeting room available and banquets. Lunch from 11 - 2.
CITY: Channahon
Chapin's Restaurant
Chapin's is an upscale, casual restaurant located in the heart of Morris's historic Downtown. Atmosphere is cozy and welcoming. Menu offers a wide selection of fine steaks and seafood, as well as fresh salads, vegetarian dishes, and scrumptious desserts. Enjoy a cappuccino or glass of wine in front of the fireplace late in the evening. Come in a stranger and leave as a friend. Traditional olde world ambiance.
CITY: Morris
Bolingbrook's Clow International Airport
This airport offers general aviation, flight school, air charter, restaurant and Illinois Aviation Museum all within the airport.
CITY: Bolingbrook
Wok n' Fire
Contemporary setting featuring Pan Asian Cuisine, Sushi Bar and full bar/lounge area.
CITY: St. Charles
Hoof & Fin Roadhouse
Entertainment venue in Joliet offering a wide variety of music styles and comedy shows. Open daily for breakfast, lunch and dinner. Call for entertainment line up and daily specials. Open during the week 6:00am-9:00pm and weekends 6:00am-10:00pm.
CITY: Joliet
Chama Gaúcha
DuPage County, Chicago's Western Suburbs - Experience the unique culture and taste of Southern Brazil at Chama Gaúcha, where servers will tempt you with skewers of succulent seasoned meats, slow roasted over a charcoal fire and hand-carved tableside.
CITY: Downers Grove
Wildwood features upscale American cuisine that includes oak-grilled steaks and chops, fresh seafood, poultry, pasta and vegetarian dishes. Enjoy your dining experience in the warmly-decorated dining room, the spacious outdoor courtyard overlooking the Dodson Place water garden, or in the Wildwood lounge. Or just stop by to sample our extensive martini selection, wine by the glass and specialty beer offerings.
CITY: Geneva
Ciazza features American fare and a mix of Mediterranean favorites paired with wine and cocktails. A relaxing environment welcomes guests and diners.
CITY: Burr Ridge
Atrium Cafe, Doubletree Hotel
American cuisine. Casual dress code. Serving breakfast, lunch & dinner. Average cost per meal: $10-20.
CITY: Oak Brook
Maria's Restaurant
Fine, Italian cuisine in a relaxed atmosphere.
CITY: Morris
Wildfire - Oak Brook
Wildfire transports you to the aura of a 1940s dinner club complete with vintage jazz music, style and warmth. Try one of our signature dishes and be amazed. No matter the occasion, jazz up your party in one of our private or semi-private dining spaces.
CITY: Oak Brook
Sam's Family Restaurant
Sam's Family Restaurant is great for any age. Come in today with your family for a cozy homecooked meal at an affordable price. Try our daily special or a signature item off our menu!
CITY: Cortland
Gina's Subs & Pizza
Home of the finest home-made soups, subs & pasta dishes, including home-made lasagnas & sauces. Now you can order online, too. Check out our website.
CITY: St. Charles
Chapin's is an upscale casual restaurant located in the heart of Morris's historic downtown. Atmosphere is cozy and welcoming. Menu offers a wide selection of fine steaks and seafood, as well as fresh salads, vegetarian dishes, and scrumptious desserts. Enjoy a cappuccino or glass of wine in front of the fireplace late in the evening. Come in a stranger and leave as a friend. Traditional Olde World ambience.
CITY: Morris
Weber Grill Restaurant
DuPage County, Chicago's Western Suburbs - Great outdoor cooking done indoors on an authentic Weber Charcoal Kettle. Featuring steaks, fresh seafood, and award winning BBQ. Outdoor patio, open kitchen and full bar.
CITY: Lombard
Vino Thai's
At Vino Thai, you'll discover the best of Thai cuisine, the freshness of carefully selected ingredients, the warm welcome, attentive service and an unforgettable experience.
CITY: St. Charles
Pizzeria Neo
An authentic Neapolitan Pizzeria offering the aroma of wood burning ovens cooking the freshest ingredients with a vibrant modern atmosphere and unique Italian wines.
CITY: St. Charles
Remington Street Grille, Holiday Inn Hotel & Suites
DuPage County, Chicago's Western Suburbs - Remington Street Café is a full service restaurant and lounge, Room service menus avialble. Open at 6:00 am for breakfast, lunch and dinner.
CITY: Bolingbrook
Bien Trucha Restaurante
Modern Mexican Restaurant specializing in tacos and margaritas, utilizing fresh ingredients to create a new and succulent Mexican experience.
CITY: Geneva
Willby's Restaurant & Lounge, Holiday Inn
Casual dining for local patrons and hotel guests. American cuisine. Serving breakfast, lulnch & dinner. Average cost per meal: $10-20. Evening early bird specials and the best Sunday brunch around.
CITY: Willowbrook
Taylor Street Pizza - Geneva
Pizza and pasta from the old neighborhood prepared using all fresh ingredients. Full kitchen.
CITY: Geneva
Wok n' Fire
Contemporary setting features Pan Asian cuisine, sushi bar, and a full bar/lounge area. This is a popular spot for both visitors and residents.
CITY: St. Charles
Naperville Bites and Sites
Enjoy a culinary and cultural walking experience through Naperville's historic neighborhood. One delicious taste at a time! Sample some great food and drink tastings from family run restaurants and shops. Along the way you will discover beautiful downtown Naperville, the Riverwalk and fun facts on the rich history that makes Naperville amazing.
CITY: Naperville
Whether it's a quiet dinner for two by the fire or a banquet for 40 in a private room, Ristorante Chianti offers delicious Italian food for everyone.
CITY: Geneva
Buca di Beppo
DuPage County, Chicago's Western Suburbs - Recipes enjoyed for generations in villages across Italy inspire our menu, giving Buca di Beppo its authentic Italian flare. Experience the Italian traditions of food, friendship and hospitality. Dishes are served family style and are meant to be shared.
CITY: Lombard
The Nest Bar & Grill
DuPage County, Chicago's Western Suburbs - One of the best kept secrets in casual dining! The Nest Bar & Grill at Bolingbrook Golf Club can accommodate over 100 guests.
CITY: Bolingbrook
Japanese Hibachi style cooking - a chef prepares for at your table. Steak, chicken, shrimp, scallops & lobstertail.
CITY: Lombard
Final Cut Steakhouse at Hollywood Casino
From premium and prime selections of beef to succulent seafood and an incredible selection of wine, enjoy state-of-the-art preparation and exceptional service.
CITY: Joliet
Graham's Fine Chocolates & Ice Cream
Homemade. Hand dipped. The ultimate taste in fine chocolates and ice cream using only the finest and freshest ingredients from around the globe.
CITY: Geneva
Syl's Restaurant & Lounge
Fine dining specializing in prime rib, steaks, fresh seafood, chicken, ribs, and chops. Private dining rooms available. Specialize in serving groups. Menu information on website. Dinner M-Th 5:00 PM - 9:00 PM, F-S 5:00 PM - 10:00 PM, Sun 4:00 PM - 8:00 PM. Dinner For Two Specials Sun-Thurs $22.95, Fri & Sat $31.95 Ask for "Dinner for Two Special Menu"
CITY: Joliet
R Place Family Restaurant
American home-style cuisine, antiques, nostalgic family atmosphere. 24-Hour restaurant & bakery.
CITY: Morris
Old Towne Pub and Eatery-Wasco
Ten plasma televisions; game room; daily drink specials; beer garden; friendly, warm pub atmosphere. Family owned.
CITY: St. Charles
Alexander's Resturant
Family restaurant with specialties such as fantastic baby back ribs that fall off the bone, charbroiled steaks & juicy prime rib that melt in your mouth, & a wide variety of glorious burgers.
CITY: Elgin
North Beach - Downers Grove
Sports bar featuring sand volleyball, bowling, billiards and more in a tropical setting. Perfect for parties, banquets and events.
CITY: Downers Grove
Arrowhead Restaurant & Bar
DuPage County, Chicago's Western Suburbs - Arrowhead Restaurant & Bar features unique American cuisine with an extensive wine and spirits collection. Patio dining is available. The restaurant offers live entertainment, special events, daily specials and private dining options.
CITY: Wheaton
Thirsty Fox Pub
Daily food and drink specials. Burgers, chicken sandwiches, appetizers, salads, chicken, steak, and turkey wraps. Traditional tavern food. Darts, pool, and computer golf games.
CITY: St. Charles
Master's Clubhouse
DuPage County, Chicago's Western Suburbs - American cuisine. Resort casual dress code. Serving breakfast, lunch & dinner. Average cost per meal: $10-20.
CITY: Bloomingdale
American cuisine. Casual dress code. Serving breakfast, lunch & dinner. Average cost per meal: $12-15.
CITY: Burr Ridge
Village Courtyard
Come to the Village Courtyard for the "home-like" feel. Between our friendly service and comfort food, you wont leave disappointed. We have alot of regulars, but enjoy meeting and serving new people! Come in for just one meal, or become one of our regulars-it will be hard not to! Try one of our specials!
CITY: Somonauk
Discovery Bay Restaurant & Lounge, Embassy Suites
DuPage County, Chicago's Western Suburbs - Offering a relaxing environment for lunch and dinner including fine food, attentive service and friendly charm. We offer a wide array of menu selections, specialty items and fresh seafood. Caribbean/American cuisine.
CITY: Lombard
Uncle Julio's Hacienda - Lombard
DuPage County, Chicago's Western Suburbs - Border style Mexican food served in a festive atmosphere. Specialties include mesquite-grilled fajitas, shrimp, ribs, quail and our famous Swirl.
CITY: Lombard
Silver Lake Restaurant - Bartlett
Healthy Chinese food. Mo M.S.G. and fresh ingredients. Dining room, carry out and delivery service.
CITY: Bartlett
Taylor Street Pizza - Wasco
Just 7 minutes west of downtown St. Charles in Wasco. Open daily. Delivery available.
CITY: Wasco
Since 1933, the Zdralevich family has offered great steaks, chicken, seafood & sandwiches in a casual dining atmosphere. We welcome groups and have banquet facilities for up to 100.
CITY: Crest Hill
White Fence Farm
Casual, family dining serving chicken, fish, steaks and cocktails. Banquets and bus tours welcome.
CITY: Lemont
Fuji Buffet
We've developed a higher standard for buffet-style dining. We offer a variety of artfully created sushi; A vast array of traditional & contemporary Chinese and Japanese hot food dishes and seafood favorites; gourmet salad and dessert bar.
CITY: St. Charles
Sushi Yama Japanese Restaurant & Grill
We invite you to try the finest Japanese cuisine in the western suburbs. Our chefs create beautiful and taste-tantalizing sushi.
CITY: St. Charles
Tallgrass Restaurant
Modern French cuisine. Located in an 1895 historic building - Celebrating 32 Years! Open for dinner Wednesday - Sunday. Reservations required. AAA Four Diamond Award Winner - 19th year in a row.
CITY: Lockport
Elgin Public House
Elgin Public House, known for great food, service, drinks and atmosphere. Better than average pub grub. Two full service bars with just about anything you could ask for.
CITY: Elgin
Fiora's Restaurant
Located in one of Geneva's most picturesque Historic Landmark Buildings, Fiora's serves a splendid selection of fine wine and European-influenced American Cuisine.
CITY: Geneva
Rambo's Bar and Grill
Rambo's is the consummate "neighborhood" style establishment where friends stop in to meet friends. We offer Friday night fish fries, broasted chicken, smoked meats, pizza, and much more! We provide live entertainment most Saturday nights, which you can find details about on our website.
CITY: Somonauk
Magnum's Prime Steakhouse
DuPage County, Chicago's Western Suburbs - A Mecca for steak aficionados - offers a varied menu including lobster and fresh seafood. Serving casual lunches, dinners filled with ambience and elegant customized banquets. Find out why we're a favorite!
CITY: Lombard
Paul Virant offers his seasonal contemporary American cuisine at this establishment nestled into the Chicago suburb of Western Springs. The chef's mentor's range from Alice Waters to Jacques Pépin, while his inspiration is drawn from the rustic Illinois farms that surround him to pickling techniques passed down from both his grandmothers.
CITY: Western Springs
T.G.I. Friday's - St. Charles
Appetizers, salads, and entrees.
CITY: St. Charles
Carrabba's Italian Grill - Woodridge
DuPage County, Chicago's Western Suburbs - "At Carrabba's, we bring you the same wonderful experiences we grew up on--from our warm Italian hospitality to the authentic aromas in our open kitchen, to our flavorful handmade recipes passed down for more than four generations." -Johnny Carrabba
CITY: Woodridge
Olde Tyme Inn
Our goal is to satisfy our customers by providing them with quality food and friendly service at a great price. Try one of our famous burgers or fresh sandwiches or salads. We have live entertainment and drink specials often!
CITY: Sandwich
Wine & Cheese by TCC
A fine wine & artisan cheese shop, wine bar and gourmet cafe offering wine tastings twice a week. Open Monday 10:00am-7:00pm, Tuesday 10:00am-9:00pm, Thursday-Saturday 10:00am-10:00pm and Sunday Noon - 5:00pm. See our website for more details.
CITY: Plainfield
Lin's Garden Chinese Restaurant
Casual and fine dining serving authentic Mandarin, Szechwan, & Cantonese Chinese food. Voted for best Asian Cuisine in Kane County. Open daily for lunch and dinner. Great selection of dinner and carry out items. Sunday buffet is highly recommended.
CITY: St. Charles
McNally's Irish Pub
McNally's is an authentic traditional Irish pub. We feature Irish and contemporary live music sessions Wednesday, Thursday and Sunday. Beer garden, Irish and American food in a casual dining atmosphere. Breakfast served on weekends.
CITY: St. Charles
Welcome Matt
Welcome Matt is located in downtown Hinckely. We offer our Fish Fry Dinner every Friday night, and karaoke every other Saturday. Check out our menu and seasonal drink specials. We offer burgers, soups, salads, sandwichs, and more! Stop by and see why The Welcome Matt has become a regional favorite!
CITY: Hinckley
Champps Americana- Lombard
Champps is a sports bar and grille, but a bit more elegant than the traditional sports bar. Come in and enjoy excellent food prepared just the way you like it or watch your favorite sports game on one of our plasma TVs.
CITY: Lombard
Taste of Himalayas
Very unique and authentic nepali restaurant and bar. Come and enjoy our lunch buffet 7 days and dinner ala carte.
CITY: St. Charles
Epic Buffet at Hollywood Casino
Dig into a never-ending parade of flavors - Prime rib, seafood, pasta, salads, a sweet collection of delectable desserts, and plenty more.
CITY: Joliet
Lucky Jack's
Casual dining.
CITY: Bartlett
North Avenue Char House
Combine culinary delights with style and personal flair to create a unique experience every time you visit. We strive to made every visit satisfying and memorable.
CITY: St. Charles
El Puente Restaurant
Authentic Mexican cuisine served in a colorful, vibrant atmosphere with a tasty variety of dishes and the finest margaritas.
CITY: St. Charles
Carlucci - Downers Grove
DuPage County, Chicago's Western Suburbs - One of the Chicago area's most celebrated culinary entities offering both casual dining in the lounge and unique dining in the Italian Garden. On-site banquet facilities accommodate 15-300 guests.
CITY: Downers Grove
Bean Appetit Coffee House
Speciality coffee beverages including espresso-based drinks, smoothies, chai tea, panini sandwiches and pastries.
CITY: Wasco
Colonial Cafe West
Family owned since 1901, this family style restaurant is best known for its "Kitchen Sink" sundae. The restaurant is open daily serving breakfast, lunch, dinner and legendary ice cream.
CITY: St. Charles
Baker's Basket
Stop in our cosy little joint for bagel or donut. Our creamed filled donuts are popular with the locals. You can't miss us, we're the purple building!
CITY: Somonauk
E & S Fish Company, Inc.
Finest seafood and service. Freshly made seafood while you wait. Eat in or carry out.
CITY: St. Charles
Villa Verone
Come experience a taste of authentic Italy in the heart of Downtown Elgin.
CITY: Elgin


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Bring this out to Coachella GV!
Bring this out to Coachella GV!
Me thinks/hopes it's going to happen.
Fucking scuba! Get this guy out here!
Ah Scuba is fucking amazing, support!
MY NEW 2014 COACHELECTRO MIX! 58 of This Years Artists In Just 50 Minutes! FREE DOWNLOAD!
Yes please!
Upcoming track sounds unreal!
wanna feed my girl E and touch her to this
2013: GESAFFELSTEIN - washed out - ZZT - SCUBA - chase & status - munchi - dillon francis - mim0sa - JWLS - bro safari - koan sound - mord fustang - skream - spencer & hill - eskmo - black van - clouds - actress - gemini - clive tanaka - angger dimas - griz - blackmill - adam k & soha - boom jinx & jaytech - burial -
Definite thumbs up from me on this one!!
Fuck yeah, Signed
This popped up 2 days ago. Definitely improves the chances of him being there.
Lil B/Trash Talk - 12/26
Claude Vonstroke/Green Velvet - 12/27
Rustie - 1/16
Breakbot - 2/12
Giraffage - 2/28
Lido - 3/10
started listening to his stuff after seeing this thread. coachella pls. dance party in the gobi?
This really does need to happen. Late-night Gobi? Would be perfect.
Let alone his new immense album and live set; I want Scuba just for the 2:00 moment here.
hearing he may be on the west coast in march. can't decide if that makes him more or less likely.

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Lately I've tried a couple of times to use mocking blow just before the end of marrowgar's bonestorm and it appeared that the fixate lasted across the agro reset. It's hard to be sure, as I was of course using other means to try to get threat and probably getting misdirects too, but is this my imagination or not?
Yep, fixates have no connection to the threat table at all. So it should stay even at the aggro table resets.
The taunt debuff also persists through the end of Bonestorm and its associated aggro drop.
That's the fixate debuff for taunt. If you cast it before the drop, then you will lose your aggro after the drop, but the fixate portion will force him on you for a few seconds.
OK, that's what I figured, I just wasn't sure whether agro resets would normal drop such fixates. The 6 second fixate of mocking blow compared to the 3 second taunt debuff makes it quite nice for that specific encounter, as the bonestorm duration seems to fluctuate a bit.
I tested this last night, with both glyphs and it generally gave me 20k threat instantly, it might gone higher a few times, but I just paid most attention to the first #, so for example if I had 20,000-something threat on initial pull, the mocking blow would throw me up to 40k-aroundish.
I am not sure of its full potential yet as I just started testing it. What I found was weird (on my end) is even though with the burst to threat, my TPS didin't really jump any when I do it. I kind of expected to see it spike up at least for a second :P
My tps on Omen spikes like a mother when I hit it.
Seems like this would be really useful for Deathwhisper. That's really the only fight where I have to tell my DPS to be careful because of the threat debuff. Popping it right as you pick her up (ie when you have zero stacks) would add a healthy buffer to an otherwise threat sensitive fight.
I could also see it being useful for Festergut to give the offtank some breathing room to use their enhanced damage buff after a tank swap.
Shows current tps and current threat overall.
the tps is flawed though, it doesn't keep a running log of your total threat / time in combat like parsers do. What it does is take something like, the last X amount of seconds in combat, and take that threat and divide it by that time, so it's possible to go from a steady 8k tps, then chain crit a lot of your abilities and it'll say your TPS is 20k, obviously it isn't, but for that window, it was something absurd.
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True. However that's not as useless as one might think given encounters with heavy target swapping or tank switching. The full combat parsers don't take into account that sort of dynamic well either. Xav built one awhile back that was handy but was out of game.
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Rogues I run with tend to tricks each other or other dps before the tank. I blame EJ for this behavior. :P
I'm DPS Main spec at the moment, so I haven't been keeping tabs on tanking so much. Though I'm currently using Blocking, I am wondering just how much better is a fully Glyphed Mocking blow ever minute over Glyph of Devastate?
And I've been searching for an up to date ability/threat table for awhile on here, but I cant seem to find it. Anyone know where it is or can they just type out a rough one?
I would like Mocking Blow off the GCD <3
Have been doing some extensive testing on this, it does really help boost TPS.
Thread I have on it:
I just realized you need a forum account on our site to see that so copy and paste inc:
So, as most warriors, we have deemed Mocking Blow to be pretty much useless for the past 5 years. But I decided to take a look at it, since they have changed it quite a bit. I only used to use it as an emergency taunt, but lets take a closer look.
Since it doesn't ACTUALLY taunt, it doesn't cause any DR on your taunt. This means you can actually use it for extra threat. Here's how:
With full glyphs for this skill (Barbaric Insults and Mocking Blow), we can push over 32 000 threat with a SINGLE MOCKING BLOW. (Source: Kojiyama - Tankspot)
It's usefulness just multiplied 5 times. Using this once a minute, and assuming an average of 11k TPS in say a 5 minute fight, we are gaining around 533 TPS! This is huge. This ability deals more single target threat (glyphed) than any other ability in our entire arsenal.
32 000 x 5 = 16 0000 Threat in one fight from MB
11 000 * 300 seconds = 33 00000 threat not using MB in one fight
11533 - 11k = 533 TPS
So, uses:
For one, make a taunt macro
/cast Taunt
/cast Mocking Blow
Instant 32k TPS, which will settle to around 11.5-12k once you get going. Good for spike threat? Fuck yes.
Weaving it into a rotation:
Because this has situational uses, I wouldn't really bind it to anything other than taunt for a set rotation, as I would use this on spirits on LK, as well as Halion adds. But, you can add it into your set rotation fairly easily. Just like a Demo Shout, TC refresher, replace a Devastate with Mocking Blow once a minute!
So, in light of this, the new absolute best single target TPS spec that I can find would be:
I'd replace Glyph of Taunt with Glyph of Blocking for non taunt sensitive fights, but honestly, it probably isn't worth the swap because of how much you need the Taunt Glyph .
Glyph of Devastate is confirmed to apply the threat of 2 sunders, and is why I am using it in this case.
I can see this spec easily reaching 14k TPS and beyond.
Sidenote about maximizing threat: Shockwave at high gear levels is some of the highest TPS you can get. Having a scope on your ranged weapon for crit increases this. It is counted as a ranged attack, so like TC, ranged crit affects it and not our melee crit. Food for thought!
On the other end, here is a completely maximized survival spec:
I have excluded Safeguard, as it's uses past our LK kill, and times that I can use it have diminshed greatly.
And a pure AoE spec (I want tri specs damnit):
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A Jobs-Centered Approach to African American Community Development
The limitations of remedies that target hard and soft skills
A related but somewhat different issue is skills training. As with education, it is doubtful that skills training alone is a powerful enough remedy to rectify the employment disparities between blacks and whites. An evaluation by Public/Private Ventures, a nonprofit research organization, reveals the effect of training on employment of African American workers (Maguire et al. 2010). The study evaluates the sectoral employment approach, which provides job seekers with training in the technical ("hard") skills needed for specific growing sectors of a local economy. The organizations providing the training work closely with employers to ensure that training is relevant. In addition to technical skills, programs also provide some interpersonal ("soft") skills training.
Public/Private Ventures used a rigorous experimental design to assess the effectiveness of the sectoral approach. A year after participants started the program, employment rates of women, people born abroad, and Latinos were higher than employment rates in the control group. In contrast, the program was not successful in improving the employment rate of African Americans. Although the skills of the African American participants improved, their employment rates did not. This study raises doubts that training is enough to improve black employment rates.
Many observers believe that employers reject African Americans, particularly African American men, because African Americans lack soft skills (see Hamilton, Austin, and Darity 2011, 6–7). The occupational and employment data do not support this view, however (see Allegretto and Pitts 2010, Appendix A; Hamilton, Austin, and Darity 2011, 6–7). African Americans, including men, are overrepresented in the service sector, a sector with relatively high soft-skills demands. They are very much underrepresented in the construction industry and slightly underrepresented in the manufacturing industry, both of which emphasize hard skills. Because these industries tend to pay higher wages than the service sector (Allegretto and Pitts 2010, Appendix A; Hamilton, Austin, and Darity 2011), it would be more beneficial for African Americans to increase their rates of employment in these sectors than in the service sector.
As with education, it is valuable for blacks to master both hard and soft skills. Unemployment disparities between blacks and white do not, however, appear to be caused primarily by the lack of these skills.
A spatial mismatch or a racial one?
Another common misconception about unemployment disparity is that it is driven by the spatial mismatch between African Americans and jobs. The claim is that African Americans live in urban areas whereas jobs and much of job growth is in suburban areas. The solution therefore is presumed to be moving African Americans to the suburbs or increasing urban African Americans' ability to reach suburban jobs through transportation initiatives (Hellerstein and Neumark 2011). In fact, the mismatch driving the black-white unemployment disparity appears to be more racial than spatial (Hellerstein, Neumark, and McInerney 2007).
William Julius Wilson's work is seen as supporting the spatial-mismatch hypothesis (see Foster-Bey 2006), but he also provides evidence of racial mismatch. Wilson shows that during the late 1980s, before the Internet became an important source of job information, more than 40 percent of employers in Chicago did not advertise their entry-level job openings in the newspaper (Wilson 1996, 133). These employers likely relied on word-of-mouth methods of advertising and recruiting for jobs. Because whites have higher rates of employment and interpersonal networks in the United States are not very integrated racially, informal recruitment methods disadvantage blacks seeking work. Wilson (1996) also shows that a large share of the employers who advertised job openings in newspapers did so only in white or Latino neighborhood newspapers. Thus, in many cases, even when jobs were advertised, blacks were unlikely to learn of the opening.
Wilson's work suggests that African Americans were not able to learn about a large share of entry-level job openings in Chicago. Had employers been less discriminatory, African American employment rates would have been significantly higher. Chicago employers who advertised job openings in newspapers where African Americans might see them were twice as likely to employ African Americans in their entry-level jobs. African Americans in Chicago were blocked from obtaining many jobs because of race, not space.
This finding has been replicated with national data from the 2000 Census by Hellerstein, Neumark, and McInerney (2007), who find that less educated blacks live in areas in which less educated whites hold many jobs. They argue that "the problem is not a lack of jobs, per se, where blacks live, but a lack of jobs into which blacks are hired." Thus, if there were equal employment opportunity for all races in urban spaces, black employment rates would be higher in those spaces.
Another reason to be skeptical about a spatial approach for addressing unemployment disparities is the fact that African Americans have suburbanized to a large degree—with no effect on employment disparity. In 1960 only 13 percent of the African American population lived in suburbs. By 2000, 35 percent did so (author's calculations based on data from Wiese 2004 and Ruggles et al. 2010). In the 100 largest metropolitan areas, which are home to about three-quarters of the African American population, 51 percent of African Americans lived in suburbs in 2010 (Frey 2011). These increases in suburbanization have not been accompanied by a reduction in the gap between African American and white unemployment.
Even in metropolitan areas where only a small share of the black population resides in the central city, large unemployment disparities persist. In Washington, D.C., for example, only 21 percent of blacks in the metropolitan area lived in the central city in 2000, but unemployment was 3.5 times higher among blacks as whites. In Atlanta only 18 percent of blacks lived in the central city in 2000, but the rate of unemployment among blacks was 2.6 times that of whites.7 These data suggest that suburbanization alone will not solve the problem of African American joblessness.
Suburbanization has not reduced the disparities in unemployment because the suburbs in which African Americans live tend to be separate from the suburbs in which whites live. According to Turner (2008, 159), "In several metropolitan areas, suburban minorities are clustered in one or two counties. . . . The vast majority of those who have located in the suburbs live in the inner suburban communities, while a much larger share of whites live in the outer suburbs."
Economic growth—and therefore job opportunities—appears to be most strongly connected to white middle-class communities. African Americans remain economically marginalized in the suburbs. As Turner (2008, 165–66) notes:
Although many minorities have gained access to suburban residential communities, these are often not the suburban jurisdictions that offer the most promising job opportunities. Correspondingly, black workers in particular are underrepresented in jobs that are located in predominantly white suburban communities. On the other hand, Hispanic workers are generally just as likely as non-Hispanic whites to find employment in the white suburbs. . . . residential segregation continues to put considerable distance between minority workers, especially blacks, and areas of greatest employment opportunity.
Other researchers find similar results. Harris (1999) finds that African Americans are overrepresented in suburbs with the lowest socioeconomic profile. Many of these low- status suburbs have high poverty rates. Indeed, many are poorer than the central city they surround. In contrast, whites are overrepresented in high socioeconomic status suburbs.
Economic growth seems to be correlated with the density of the white middle-class population rather than to any specific geography. It is not suburbs per se that show strong job growth but white middle-class suburbs. It is not cities per se that exhibit low job growth but cities or areas in cities with a low white middle-class density. The majority white and middle-class city of Seattle, for example, has experienced strong job growth (Turner 2008). Cities and areas of cities that have seen white gentrification have experienced economic revitalization (Hampson 2005; Kiviat 2008). Indeed, now that most African Americans in major metropolitan areas live in the suburbs, there are more discussions that the future of American economic growth is urban (Shellenbarger 2010; Wieckowski 2010).
There are many reasons why economic growth may be tied to a large white middle-class population. Relative to the black middle class, the white middle class has higher income, much greater wealth, and superior connections to the politically and economically powerful, who are disproportionately white. Middle-class blacks are also more likely to have poor relatives to support and to live in communities burdened with relatively high levels of poverty. As a result, white middle-class communities are more likely to be ripe with economic potential.
Another reason why suburbanization does not automatically translate into greatly improved job opportunities for African Americans is that African Americans probably still experience labor-market discrimination in the suburbs. Turner (2008, 166) reports that "the minority share of applicants for jobs in the white suburbs is significantly higher than the minority share of population in these areas, suggesting that blacks and Hispanics are trying to get jobs in white suburbs [but appear to be] disadvantaged in white central-city areas and white and integrated suburbs." Employment discrimination, which has been well documented in urban areas, likely exists in suburban areas as well.
All of these factors point to a mismatch for African American workers that is much more about race than space. Suburbanization has eliminated neither residential segregation nor anti-black employment discrimination.
A plan for creating jobs in high-unemployment areas
The depth and the persistence of the African American jobs crisis can probably be solved only with intervention by the federal government. In the past 50 years, the normal working of the U.S. economy and the modest amelioration efforts that have been tried have failed to provide sufficient jobs for African Americans. Increases in educational achievement and suburbanization by blacks have also failed to spur change. If a bold new approach to the problem is not taken, it is likely that blacks will be condemned to unemployment rates that are twice those of whites into the foreseeable future.
On more than one occasion, the United States has responded to crises of joblessness with government intervention. The federal government intervened during the Great Depression, the recessions of the early 1970s, and the Great Recession. A sustained level of high unemployment for African Americans decade after decade should be recognized as a crisis as serious as periodic deep national recessions. White Americans regularly experience unemployment rates below 6 percent—a rate that blacks have never experienced in the past 40 years. An unemployment rate of more than 10 percent is considered extremely high for whites—but African Americans have had to endure unemployment rates of more than 10 percent for most of the past 40 years, according to analysis based on Current Population Survey data from the Bureau of Labor Statistics.
Given the intractability of high joblessness for African Americans, the federal government should support targeted job creation for communities experiencing persistently high unemployment. Job creation should be targeted to communities of 25,000 people or more in counties and metropolitan areas that have experienced unemployment of more than 6 percent every year in the previous 10 years. Eligible individuals must have resided in an eligible community for a prolonged period and have been unemployed or out of the labor market for at least six months. The program could be phased out in communities over a five-year period after the annual unemployment rate fell below 6 percent.
The proposed program is at a scale large enough to produce a significant reduction in unemployment. It is likely to improve communities plagued by persistent high unemployment in other ways, as well.
Types of programs
The federal government should support three separate programs for increasing employment in these high-unemployment areas: direct public sector employment, job training with job placement, and wage subsidies for employers who hire unemployed workers. Together these policies should significantly increase employment rates in African American communities with persistently high unemployment.
Direct public sector employment. The federal government should provide funds to local governments for job creation aimed at improving the quality of life in the community. Local governments, with community input, should create projects to improve the human and physical infrastructure, safety, health, and attractiveness of the community. Many African American communities experiencing persistently high unemployment need workers to clean, rehabilitate, and beautify the housing stock and green spaces; assist in the education of children; form auxiliaries to the police to help improve the safety of the community; and participate in many other community projects. These jobs would improve the quality of life of existing residents and make the community more desirable to middle-class households. Unemployed community residents would be hired and trained to perform all program jobs with the possible exception of supervision and training.
Job training and job placement. Black job applicants have a lower likelihood of being hired than equally qualified whites or Latinos (Pager, Western, and Bonikowski 2009; Morris, Sumner, and Borja 2008). Improving the skills of black workers is useful, but it may not be enough to lead to employment. Organizations providing training for black workers also need to provide services to help place those workers in jobs. These organizations need to develop strong relationships with employers and aggressively market qualified black job candidates. They also need to develop other strategies to help well-trained black workers find employment.
For-profit and nonprofit organizations should be eligible for funds for training residents of targeted communities in skills that are in high demand in the local economy and placing them in jobs. Programs should be assessed by the employment rate of their graduates six months after completing the training program. Programs that underperform should lose significant amounts of funding each year, with the freed-up funds redistributed among well-performing programs.
Wage subsidies. Private sector employers who hire residents from targeted communities in new jobs should receive a wage subsidy of 75 percent of the hourly minimum wage for each full-time worker receiving benefits hired and 33 percent of the hourly minimum wage for each part-time worker or full-time worker not receiving benefits hired. Employers located within the targeted community should receive an additional subsidy that is 10 percentage points higher.
Long-term effects of a jobs program in high-unemployment areas
The effects of the proposed program are likely to be felt for several years after it is phased out. Researchers find that positive economic effects last for many years after temporary jobs programs end (Bartik 2001: 141–146). Positive experiences with African American workers may also reduce employer biases, possibly leading them to institutionalize the outreach and hiring of African American workers (Bartik 2001, 141–46). Studies of public sector employment programs find that employers are surprised to find that workers from disadvantaged groups can perform as well as the workers they usually hire (Bartik 2001, 179–80).
This jobs proposal is designed to increase the overall economic resources in the community. Increasing the number of working and taxpaying individuals would increase the tax base for additional economic development activities while also decreasing local government social service and social welfare costs. It would make the community more appealing for locating a business. The proposal is also designed to increase the attractiveness of the community to middle-class households looking for a new place to live as well as to both new and existing businesses.
Significant growth in employment rates could also lead to increases in the educational achievement of the children in the community and reductions in crime. These improvements would attract more middle-class residents and further increase the economic resources of the community.
The U.S. economy should be one in which everyone who wants to work can find a job. This goal has been elusive for African Americans.
Given the persistence of high unemployment despite improvements in educational attainment and greater suburbanization by African Americans, a concerted national effort is needed to reduce racial disparities that leave blacks twice as likely as whites to be unemployed. Under the proposed plan, the federal government would significantly increase the number of jobs available to African Americans by creating public sector jobs, training and helping place participants in jobs, and subsidizing wages. By substantially increasing employment rates, it would help diminish poverty, improve educational achievement, and reduce crime rates.
This paper benefitted from discussions with Randell McShepard, board chairman of the Ohio-based think tank PolicyBridge.
1. A few predominantly white communities—such as Belleville, Illinois, and Niagara Falls, New York—have experienced unemployment rates of more than 6 percent for 10 consecutive years (author's analysis of Local Area Unemployment Statistics data from the Bureau of Labor Statistics).
2. Author's analysis of data from population and dissimilarity data from diversitydata.org. The statistic for the 100 metropolitan areas with the largest African American populations is weighted by the population size.
3. African American unemployment rates are from Austin (2011). Rates for whites are derived in the same manner using Current Population Survey and local unemployment area statistics from the Bureau of Labor Statistics.
4. Researchers do not understand why this relationship persists. As Duke professor William Darity notes, "I don't know if there's anybody out there who can tell you why that ratio stays at 2-to-1. It's a statistical regularity that we don't have an explanation for" (Kroll 2011; see also Conrad 2011).
5. Author's calculations based on Current Population Survey data from the Bureau of Labor Statistics.
6. Ibid.
7. Data on the share of blacks residing in the central city are from Turner (2008). Unemployment rate ratios are derived from Economic Policy Institute estimates based on Current Population Survey and Local Area Unemployment Survey data from the Bureau of Labor Statistics.
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