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This is something I wanted to talk about for a long time but never got a chance. Seeing what people had to say on twitter today just put me over the edge. What is the issue between Trey's Angels and Team Breezy? Why can't people support both? I am both Trey's Angels and Team Breezy. I love both of them as artist and I support them as much as possible. I see on twitter angels saying that other angels shouldn't support Chris and vice versa. Trey wouldn't want his angels fighting with Team Breezy. Can someone explain the problem between these to groups.
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This is something I wanted to talk about for a long time but never got a chance. Seeing what people had to say on twitter today just put me over the edge. What is the issue between Trey's Angels and Team Breezy? Why can't people support both? I am both Trey's Angels and Team Breezy. I love both of them as artist and I support them as much as possible. I see on twitter angels saying that other angels shouldn't support Chris and vice versa. Trey wouldn't want his angels fighting with Team Breezy. Can someone explain the problem between these to groups.
i think sometimes people make the being on "teams" issue too big of a deal... i'm part of trey's angels and i love chris brown too... good music is good music and isn't that what its all about? being a part of a fan club isn't to create unnecessary drama between fans... its to support the artist to continue making the music that you fell in love with. the negativity and hate between people is not accomplishing anything... in trey's own words, "Hate will get you nowhere!" that is all =)
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If I offended you by agreeing with any comments, that was not my intention to offend anyone. I agree with the POSITIVE emotion of being a true loyal fan. The other stuff I recognized to be just comments made in frustration that really dont necessarily apply to anyone. You cant fault die hard Angels for wanting all Angels to be loyal especially when wearing the Title. They know which team they are on. It would not be a real fan club if that spirit did not exist. We might as well disband or all go over and vote for Breezy.
You can always support an artist whether you are in a fan club or not. Almost everything concerning Trey is on TreySongz.com for the general membership. I am not saying this to convince anybody to get out of the fan club. I am just pointing out the facts. It is up to each TeamBreezy Angel or a TeamBreezy Stan to determine if they can handle being a member and what may come along with it if they are because of their allegiance. If you all dont understand this yet, we are going to have to ask JoJo Brim or somebody else for some help because this is getting out of my realm of expertise. And I hope Breezy fans dont take this the wrong way because I am not telling any fans to get out of the club. Who the hell am I to do that?
@Tiffan700 You are still venting emotionally and it is obscuring the issue. If you truly understood, the hurt would go away. That is how I know what is going on. I am sorry for everything that upset you because I think you are a good person. I agree Fans should be able to come together most of the time, but when there is COMPETITION, only one can win. That is when you become an opponent of the Angels. I am not judging. I am making an observation. As I said, you seem to be a good person and you dont seem to be the type of person that would intentionally do something to hurt or insult the Angels or Trey. But you have to accept some responsibility in this if you want to belong to the fan club of both artists. I am not saying you should not support both artists and that you do not deserve to be an Angel, and I am not saying you should be attacked. All of the Angels are not attacking other Angels and all dont agree with it. I am saying that if you are an Angel voting for Breezy then you have to recognize what that means and accept some of the consequences when things get heated, try to understand it and then let this go. Look at it as Angels going through changes because they are trying to achieve a goal and you are not helping them achieve it when it is critical for them to win. If you take some responsibility, then I say you are wearing your big gurl panties. If you dont, you are acting like a victim and I have no sympathy.
@cuttigurl609 gurl he really was super sweet
@Jesusismysavior Thanks gurl. I wasn't gonna try and justify at first, but I couldn't stay quiet any more. Neither one of our teams are perfect, and I talk to team breezy all the time about how all this stupid fighting shit is ridiculous. I know a lot of team breezy can go overboard, i'm not biased by any means, at all. If you're wrong, you're wrong. I feel like we should be able to come together and support each other, TOGETHER. Trey would win a lot more with more support, then just a few fans that believe that their die hard so only their supposed to be here. If team breezy and the "believers" can come together and support...(as annoying as hell as they can be) why can't we? You can win more than with less.
@NUMBA1HON Thank you for saying that. And I honestly do understand the emotion that goes into being a fan trust me. With all the shit that we've been through with Chris for the past 3 years, how can I not? But that's just it. A lot of Angels joined the Team Breezy train also. How would you guys feel if I went around saying to everyone, you don't deserve to be here? Where were you guys three years ago when we needed you? Hell, where were you a year ago when we needed you? When Chris was on his say now begging for any support that he could get from his fans, if he had any left at all. A lot of people that claim to be apart of team breezy were not there. I was there through it all. I consider myself a true fan of his. I would never go around telling everybody since you weren't here from the beginning then don't call yourself #Team Breezy, you're a fake fan, you're a fake fan, blah, blah, blah. I could easily pull the you're hopping on because he's hot again card. But I don't do that, because i'm genuinely happy and grateful for the support that he is receiving now, and any little bit helps. All he wants is for people to love him. I would think that that would be the same situation for Trey, and that his fans would be grateful that he's gaining more support. But apparently i'm wrong.
However, I do understand the other point of views, I just can't agree with them. I'm sorry, but I have to be honest.. That moment that he shared with me, is a moment that he gave to me, and only he can take it away from me. He didn't ask me if I was a die hard fan before he told me he loved me. He genuinely appreciated my support in showing up to get my cd signed by him. That meant a lot to me. That's gonna stay with me forever, and i'm sorry but there's no way i'm gonna let anyone tell me that i'm not worthy of being here. If he has a problem with me supporting both artists, then he'll have to tell me that himself. Honestly, I don't believe he's truly that way.
TreySongz.com in not a fan club. Treys website is TreySongz.com and all fans can become a member free of charge.
Trey's Angels is separate and it is the FanClub. AWH is only part of the Trey's Angels fan club The video you saw about AWH is when Trey decided he was receiving a large number of gifts and he had no way to put them. So he got the idea to start a foundation to help people in need. The foundation is AWH which is a part of Trey's Angels fan club. It is not the main purpose for Trey's Angels. The main purpose is to support Trey in all his endeavors. AWH being one of them.
Trey states why he created the Angels fan club below. I put the definitions there for clarity. Maybe this will help some fans understand.
KEY WORD: created for his most dedicated and LOYAL fans
? the quality of being loyal
? feelings of allegiance
? the act of binding yourself (intellectually or emotionally) to a course of action
1. steadfast in allegiance or duty;
2. unwavering in devotion to friend or vow or cause;
- Example: "loyal supporters"
?noun: strong loyalty to a person, group, idea, or country
LOYAL adjective
? firm and not changing in your friendship with or support for a person or an
organization, or in your belief in your principles
Opposite: disloyal
not loyal; not supporting someone that you should support
@Numba1hun I do understand what u mean but always thought TreySongz.com was the fan club and TreysAngels is for dedicated funs and mainly for AWHM. Was on the fun club for a year before becoming an Angel but only signed up to the Angel club after watching Trey's video clip talking about TreysAngels. I remember him saying that it is for all dedicated funs and who want to be part of the AWHMissions. So I believed that was the main purpose for treysAngels.
Alright Was upset about a particular comment On this post not what goes on on Twitter coz I never participate in such arguments as I respect both artists. but am cool now don't know Trey but judging from what I've learnt about him I don't think his that sort of person. I always laugh off those belittle comments they irk me but At the same time I believe whoever takes part is arrogant/childish etc. That's why I don't pay attention to them. I know the fun club is new & didn't expect any competitions either to be honest am not even bothered if we don't get them coz I most likely not going to participate. Like I said as long as I can afford to go to concert & buys records that's all that maters to me. I just felt that it was not right for one to say that Angels that Stan for Chris are fake and are only here to meet Trey. I do understand how it feels like for those die hard funs to see someone supporting both but I feel whoever commented went overboard.
"I also want to say to you all. You know who you are and what your intentions are. If your intentions are good and you don't mean any harm, then don't let what is being said upset you. Maybe what is being said is not necessarily directed at you. Just try to understand where the other person is coming from without looking at the insults and taking everything personally. Somebody has to be the bigger person. It is hard to do, but you won't have any understanding if you are also angry or upset. Most people are not honest when they are angry. Both parties need to try to see things from the other person's perspective. It takes understanding on both sides to create harmony."
I agree
@Jemail: Im sure in due time the Angels aboard will be able to participate in more contests and get pre-sale opportunities. The fan club is still new and still in the process of getting things worked out so that we can all have a pleasurable experience. If Trey did comment that his fan club was for die-hard fans it still doesnt mean you cant be a fan of another artist. Im not sure what promo you are referring to but I do believe the primary requirement of the fan club is that you have to be a true supporter of Trey and what he represents. Listen dont let anyone here, on twitter or anywhere else deter you from wanting to continue to be an Angel. Continue to support Trey the best way you know how. You are most certainly right you can support Trey whether you have an Angel title or not. Chris maybe the main focus but some Angels have gotten mad at other Angels that supported other artists in different competitions too.
I seriously dont get the impression that Trey is a very judgmental person. If you are truly concerned about the guidelines, mission of the Treys Angels fan club perhaps you might want to send them an email asking them. Im glad he inspired you to want to give back to the community.
I agee @NUMBA1HUN These comments are not meant for all of Team Breezy or trying to single any out. But SOME of them can really go overboard with the things they say and do. I don't care how much I love Trey that is not gonna make me go in on someone for liking CB or being Team Breezy. I just find it disrespectful when they talk about Trey and what he has/has not accomplished because of what Chris has! They are two different artists who are both successful at what they do. That's my only issue when some members of TB go out of their way to disrespect and belittle Trey and his fans. Not all of then participate in it but that's what I find disappointing in the whole thing. I will still continue to support Trey regardless... These comments are not meant to target anyone. You know who you support then that's it
There is a difference between these two words. I don't know what Trey and TeamSongz is doing. I am just giving definitions.
Judgment noun:
?the capacity to assess situations or circumstances shrewdly and to draw sound conclusions
?an opinion that you have after thinking carefully about something
?your ability to understand a situation well and make good decisions
Adjective: too willing to criticize other peoples actions and behavior and say that they are wrong.
I also want to say to you all. You know who you are and what your intentions are. If your intentions are good and you don't mean any harm, then don't let what is being said upset you. Maybe what is being said is not necessarily directed at you. Just try to understand where the other person is coming from without looking at the insults and taking everything personally. Somebody has to be the bigger person. It is hard to do, but you won't have any understanding if you are also angry or upset. Most people are not honest when they are angry. Both parties need to try to see things from the other person's perspective. It takes understanding on both sides to create harmony.
When you calm down, be still and stop fretting about Twitter and the feelings expressed on this post, you will be laughing and able to understand the following contradiction yourself. #Team Breezy ANGEL and ANGELS that STAN for Breezy. What is that? SMH
I understand that you are venting. But when you calm down, look closely and rationally at the situation. All of us should do that. I don't believe there is any written rule that governs who can and can not be an Angel but there are some unwritten expectations that come along with the Title is all that I can say. All of the artist have their own websites and fan clubs. Anyone is welcome to be a member of TreySongz.com but the Angels is Trey's fan club not Breezy's.
Didn't know Trey was judgmental to see who's real and who ain't real but if he is then good bye to this fun club. no hard feelings as long as I can see him in concert and buy my CDs that's all that matters to me. I thank him for inspiring me to give back to communities.
I don't understand why angel team is so judgmental to #teambreezy Angels. I personally give equal support to both of them and did not sign coz of them competitions coz we don't get them in the uk. We don't even get pre-sale tickets smh. If Trey said it's for die hard fans then u should have made it clear before u sign us up. And all these promos on Twitter don't say anything about that all u say is if love Trey come be one of his Angels right? In that case I will not be renewing my membership in feb nxt year when it expires will just stay on the fun club then coz I can still support him without the Angel tittle. Am soo over people getting personal with angels that Stan for Chris. My question is why u get mad at angels that support Chris and don't get mad at those that support others eg Lloyd etc? + whoever participates in teambreezy vs treyangels arguments on Twitter is dumb basing on what y'all be tweeting about.people will say the dumbest things. Whoever advertises that Angel advert should meek it clear from now stating it's for die hard funs .
@Tiffan700. You sound like a good person. All I can say is that a fan is short for fanatic. Look at what happens at some of these ballgames. You may not know because you are only 22. There is a lot of emotion that goes into being a fan. Yes. It can be that serious depending upon how big a fan you are, and in a competition, some people/fans are known to act real crazy. You have to expect this. Nothing is going to change unless they drug or start killing people. The best you can do is try to avoid the friction and do your thing without getting into the drama. You can also try to understand the other point of view, see if there is something you can do or not, and just let it go. That is not as easy though because it requires having a lot of wisdom.
@tiffan700: I will agree it is too much focus on this subject. Hopefully it will die down because it causes people to lose focus on what really matters and that is supporting Trey. Like I said it doesnt matter to me if you support more than one artist. I dont think there is anything in the guidelines that says that once you sign up to be a Treys Angel you have to forsake all other artist you may like. I understand what the other Angels are saying about the wavering Angels though. You do what is best for you. Keep supporting Chris and Trey. They both need all the support they can get. I will not judge you for who you chose to support.
I will have to also agree that some fans do give celebs God like qualities. You truly shouldnt feel the need to justify why you became an Angel. No one should honestly. As it was stated before Trey and his team know who is REAL and who isnt.
Im glad Trey touched you in such a way that it made you want to become an Angel.
I sincerely saw how sweet of a person he truely was. I'm not the one for hoping on different celebs just because their hot for the season until all the hype dies down, then its on to the next one. If I'm supporting you, then that shit is real. Trey gained a supporter in me, and I try to be there for both him and Chris, but this stupid feud makes that damn near impossible. Please just let everyone be free to support who they want, without being so judgemental about the whole thing. Its not fair.
To say someone joined a fan club for the wrong reasons, or to try and justify who's real and who's fake just because they like two artists is completely unfair. I pay attention to this topic up here the most because this is the one argument that wont seem to go away. This is all I see on my tl day after day, and I never say anything because I'm not for the drama. But now I'm feeling offended. Yes. I am team breezy. Yes I am a Trey's Angel. What's so wrong in that?? I keep it 100% percent with anything I have to say, and I have no problem saying that I haven't been a Trey fan probably as long as most of you have. Chris has been in my heart since I was 16 years old. I'm 23 now. There's no way in hell I'm gonna all of a sudden drop him to support someone else just because the fans want me to pick 1 or the other. What I am gonna do is keep supporting them both like I've been doing.
I understand that people love these Celebs, I do too, but their not God. It should not have to be this damn serious. Trey made the fanclub. Not the fans. Its not fair that we be dictated on who should be here, and who shouldn't, just because of your opinions. I didn't join this thing because of what I could get. I don't need this club to help me do anything. I joined because I actually met Trey (on my own) and he was super sweet to me. I told u guys this story before when I first joined. I had asked him if he could personalize my cd for me, but he told me no cause he was in a rush to leave. I turned and walked away, and the next thing I knew, I heard "I still love u though"! I turned around, and he looked me dead in my eyes. He didn't even look away until I did. He almost made me cry that day in front of all those people in that store. That's what brought me here.


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Does "dodge soft cap" not refer to the expertise soft cap once dodge is removed from the table?
Not for everyone but I like the synergy they create.
@Satorri - Good stuff sir. Keep it coming.
As an addendum, I should note that parry rates vary from boss to boss, so on some encounters I believe the "parry cap" is much lower (it's used for boss tuning), but so far the mid-50s seems to be the actual cap.
Love where you're going with this. I appreciate too that you're up front about what this is and isn't; namely:
It is not a tool to show which tank is better and why
It is a tool to show how all of the tank classes combine dozens of tools to produce highly similar results
I wish you luck in properly factoring ardent defender (and will of the necropolis to a lesser degree) into your calculations. Basic theorycrafting will give it zero effect; in tunnel-vision TTL calculations it has such a massive impact as to declare the other tank classes largely useless. Obviously neither case is accurate.
Call me a blizzard fanboi, but I'm always confident that tanks are within a certain margin of balance to each other. This shows, to some degree, that the latest tweaks have been quite effective. There can certainly be scenarios where particular tools become more valuable (blood deathknights and oldschool sarth+3, for example), but the overall balance seems solid.
As I see it, it would have one of two effects: either
1) the pally is taking enough damage in a short period of time that he dies anyway (after the proc saves him), such that Ardent Defender's death-prevention proc is useless; or
2) the pally is taking just enough damage for the proc to occur once every 2 or more minutes.
In the first case, it is largely useless, since it would just heal the pally back up to 30%, and then he would die again. In such a case, cooldowns like Shield Wall would be largely superior. I guess one example of this would be anything comparable to Mimiron's Plasma Blast, where you take a very significant amount of damage over a short period of time, but it is in separate ticks, as opposed to one large attack.
In the second case, it is overwhelmingly good. Assume that a boss has a super powerful single attack that he uses just over every 2 minutes. (I know this is a tailor-made boss to demonstrate how OP Ardent Defender may possibly be, but bear with me.) In this situation, Ardent Defender would remove any need for outside cooldowns, regardless of how high the damage is. If the pally was hit for 200,000, in one single attack, this would save him entirely.
Yeah, Rime is right. I just showed exactly what he was talking about, hahahaha.
P.S. I can't wait for more of Satorri's theorycrafting to make its way into this topic; I really want to see the final products of total damage taken, chance to take 3+ hits in a row, relative values of cooldowns, and so on.
Thanks for keeping this bumped, I've actually been waiting for Rawr to get fixed up for more recent iterations so I can be confident I'm working from consistent numbers (Warrior avoidance/block isn't calculating right, so it's left me uncertain about other numbers).
Soon I will get back to this. =)
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The New Testament on Death Knight Tanking
Ok, I'm back in business, sort of. The stats in the original post have been fixed and updated for 3.2. I had to do some computation of my own since Rawr wants to over-calculate armor for some reason (the paladin does not in fact have 39k armor raid buffed without procs or abilities...), but the new numbers should be currently accurate and these numbers will be used to continue.
The tanks have gotten upgrades, so I'm using their current gear to set the stage.
I'll emphasize this again, this is not intended to compare classes, nor critique the choices of the exemplar tanks. Suffice to say these tanks are all progressing in Uld25/ToC25, doing regular and hard modes, and are all successful tanks for their teams.
The point of this developing tool is to gauge just how much effect is actually being garnered from different contributions to survival, what the cumulative effect is, and to see how the variances in gearing style and class mechanics can still end up with a roughly equivalent effect in overall damage reduction.
This is also only meant to be an inspection of survival skills, threat will not be discussed here, except for the occasional reference to how threat methodology will affect survival CDs and availabilities.
I am going to be on vacation for the next week and a half or so, so this won't get stepped forward much from this weekend to the following, but hopefully after that I can get the ball rolling again!
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The New Testament on Death Knight Tanking
Hi Satorri,
I'm guessing the deathknight listed is probably blood (and most likely yourself ;-))
I'd be interested in seeing the numbers for a frostie, as the extra 2% mitigation and 3% miss chance given to frost tanks may change the numbers somewhat (in the favour of DK's) compared to the 3% stamina from blood.
Of course a talent tree comparison is complex, considering all cd's, abilities and self healing.
But I would imagine looking at the basic comparison of a tank which has 3% more avoidance and 2% more mitigation at a cost of 3% less stamina should lead to significantly higher DK survival figures in your 4 class comparison figure on your original post.
I find the comparisons in this thread really interesting, as I have both a DK and warrior who I raid tank with, and find myself comparing them frequently.
Keep up the good work
I think we have a few different DK's willing to help work on some of these things. I know my hat is in the right for DW tanking. Granted I got my Dual-Bladed Butcher last night, and yes im friggin pumped still! But I am back to good ole 2 hander tanking for the moment.
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After reaching the soft cap gemming for expertise would be very unwise as the benefits are minimal compared to losing over 340 health per gem that you swap out of stamina.
In all honesty you're doing a fine job but as you're saying yourself it's fairly easy to tweak the numbers/gear choices and do the same maths I suppose you could update the gear choices before finishing your job as the results you're going to publish if you don't change these options are going to be outdated and thus obsolete. The formulas however and mathematical work are going to keep their value, but I think most people simply want to see actual and up-to-date results instead of old "debatable" gear choices.
At that point hit becomes quite a bit more valuable as a DK.
For a blood tank, hit effects Heart Strike, Death Strike, Plague Strike, Icy Touch, Rune Strike, Aoe abilities, Taunts, Death Grips...
Expertise only effects Heart Strike, Plague Strike, and Death Strike.
@Tom: remember that dk's have both spell-like abilities and melee attacks that both function off the same hit rating value on our character sheet. once we cap our melee specials, we still get the benefit of improving the accuracy of our spell-like abilities as well if we stack hit past 8%/26 expertise. further expertise, however, adds 0 benefit to our spells chance to hit.
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The mature and healthy relationship understands that sometimes expansion is necessary. I'm not saying it's always the best thing, or always healthy, but completely writing it off is stupid. For the record, my relationship with this girl ended because she moved across the country.
A. I guess I'm not a home wrecker. There was just a lack of communication and some how the only way to make things better is a three way. It's a weird and confusing situation.
B. I'm very very much in favor of open relationships and kind of find the idea of monogamy a little weird. There's a lot of people to fuck/love out there, and no one person could ever fulfill every need and desire another person could have, so fucking around seems kind of healthy to me. Way more healthy than a monogamous relationship where one person fucks around behind the others back and the other person ends up shooting someone at least. But I've never been in a relationship, so my thoughts on that mean dick probably.
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