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There were top ten times in Friday's practice in Belgium for Sergio Perez, Nico Rosberg and Paul di Resta...
Sergio Perez: "Today we had a very good first session, but a more difficult second session. That was a bit of a surprise for us, because this morning the car felt very strong and very fast, and I was very happy with its balance. But this afternoon, as I say, it was a little less consistent. However, we've got a lot of information to analyse now, so as to understand what's going on with the car, in an effort to try to improve it and hopefully do a good job for tomorrow and Sunday. Hopefully, the weather will help us, because I personally would prefer there to be wet or variable conditions, which we know is always possible here at Spa!"
Jenson Button: "For me, FP1 was very good, and I was very happy with the car. The balance was good and I think our pace was good, too. I didn't push very hard in the wet sectors, but in the dry as I say it felt very good. This afternoon, however, it felt different. It's obviously a result of the warmer temperatures, and perhaps the wind also, so we've got a lot of work to do to understand why that is. Hopefully, we'll work it all out and things will be better for us by tomorrow. Having said all that, it's great to be back at Spa - the circuit is simply stunning! It's one of the best circuits for a driver, so fast and flowing. You have true racing fans here too, which is fantastic to see. Okay, the circuit is a bit unforgiving, but in a way I don't mind that. I think we've lost a bit of that element with some of the newer circuits we've seen arrive on the calendar over the past few years. The old classics are the ones that really remind me why I love this sport so much: here, Monza, Suzuka etc."
Nico Rosberg: "It's great to be back at the Spa circuit, particularly as our car is more competitive this year, and it feels such an improvement to drive through the quick corners here. I'm not entirely sure where we are compared to the others but it looks like it will be quite a tough challenge and, of course, it is a completely different track here to at the last race. Today went pretty well for us though and it could be an interesting weekend, particularly with the mixed weather conditions that are predicted."
Lewis Hamilton: "We have some work ahead of us this evening to get the car feeling just right but overall today was a reasonable start to the weekend. The car feels very different here with the low downforce set-up, compared to at the last race, and we need to refine a few areas to get the balance sorted. We were able to get some good long run work done today and that's the most important thing for the race. We've got time to make the changes required so I'm optimistic that tomorrow will see an improvement."
Force India:
Paul di Resta: "Conditions were mixed this morning, but it was much better this afternoon. It's safe to say that we seem to be further forward compared to where we were in Budapest and we always thought the car would be more suited to this track. At the moment it looks like we are in the mix for making the top ten, but we need to carry a bit more speed into qualifying. We know that the rain might come tomorrow, so we have to be ready to maximise the conditions."
Adrian Sutil: "Quite an interesting day getting back in the car for the first time in almost a month. We were near the top of the times this morning in the damp session, but I had some balance issues to solve with the car so we made quite a few adjustments for this afternoon. When the sun came out the track conditions were very different so we tried some different downforce levels and need to choose the best approach for tomorrow. For the final few laps of the afternoon we made some progress and got the car closer to where we want it to be."
Nico Hulkenberg: "It was quite a tricky day with the mixed weather conditions this morning. We couldn't really get a full run on slicks. Sectors two and three were dry, but sector one was wet. I think there is still room for improvement. We still have some work to do on the set-up, as things can and have to be improved. I wasn't happy with the balance of the car. The tyres are behaving as usual: the medium compound is definitely quicker over one lap, as it provides more grip, but then we have to find out how long it will last during the race."
Esteban Gutierrez: "In the morning we had some running on a track that was wet and damp. We were able to run some aero tests, but, unfortunately, we didn't get through the whole programme. The qualifying simulation in the afternoon was not good. I lost part of the diffusor at the beginning of FP2, which impacted on performance. I'm not feeling very comfortable with the car. It's tricky driving the car on relatively low downforce, and the balance is not quite right. Now we have to analyse the data and see how we can improve that."
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Friday's Gallery From Spa
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I am Omer from Istanbul Turkey, i am 24 years old. I want your opinions and guidances on what i am going to write. But I guess i should stop acting perfectionist and just write what i am thinking.
I lately feel like i am lost, not lost as in lost lost but depressed and foggy minded lost. I used to be a muslim or lets say someone who believes,accepts there is a god or something that is greater than sum of what there is and something conscious beyond us ever can be. But i found out that i only believed out of fear of death, fear of punishment named as in hell. I used to think that non-religious or people who weren't in the same religion as i am in were wrong. Now it turns out i have existential questions which i tried to supress like some other stuff. I didnt ask myself "why there is something rather than nothing" instead of "what if i get punished when i die?" Now i ask the deeper questions, now i cam empathize with believers, non-believers or people inbetween and all these states are totally reasonable maybe because i experienced them. Anyways i just feel like i am living life as if i am avoiding it, i am not living it to its fullest. I dont mean this in a conventional self-help book way. You know some people are so passionate so crazy to do crazy to live even crazy to die. I feel like i am just flowing with the currents of life in a "lost" way instead of dancing with the flow way.
Another problem i have is, i never had a girlfriend even a childhood one in my life. That isn't tragic or unusual. I still dont have one and lately it started to bug me. I feel lonely as if someone lost their audition/hearing and they feel like crazy about that. That silence/loneliness is bugging so much. It is easy to fix a problem even if it is a hard one if you know the problem, when the problem is to diagnose the problem itself i guess any help you can get is thankfully welcomed. Anyways i am asking this here because i read about meditation/buddhism etc etc but going the path and knowing the path are two complete different things. So hearing from someone experienced and an outsider to "me" would make a better judgement about it.
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YES! This Early Access stuff is actually worthwhile after all!
Update from Scott about Strobo:
"Hey He-Fans,
I know there is some concern about Strobo selling out fast. As we noted, he really is our "2013 traveling convention" figure, but as a special bonus we made a very small amount available during Early Access for sub holders. Strobo will still be available at Grayskull Con, Power-Con, NYCC and a limited amount in late fall on Mattycollector.com (much as we did for TOD Sorceress) so today was not the only opportunity to get Strobo.
See you at the cons!
Ooh ooh ooh! Early Access, baby!
No Fang Man for the non-subscribers? Uh-oh, get those torches & pitchforks!
Must-Haves in 2015: Lord Masque, Quakke, Sagitar, Negator, Peekablue, Granita, Dragstor, Crita, Prahvus, Classic Toy Costume Catra Vs. Starburst She-Ra
YES! This Early Access stuff is actually worthwhile after all!
oh boy... very interesting
My feedback thread: http://www.he-man.org/forums/boards/...82#post2822482
Yeah! Strobo I wasn't expecting til later.
Fang Man, Keldor & Dr. Manhatten...sweet I get my own Blue Man group in March.
The Space Mutants are missing something CRITAcal!
Chocolate and Vanilla swiiiirl. Swur-Urrl. -Crazy Eyes
Glad to be a Subber! What a great haul in March! And Strooooooooooooobooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!
(I'm very excited.)
Not to sound like a creepy cheerleader for Uki, but it's nice to know there is at least one person on this forum who is extremely positive & friendly all the time. I don't think I could be that nice even if you paid me. If we ever give out awards for "forum member of the month", Uki gets my vote. -Mr. Shokoti
Subscribe for MOTU Minis 2015!!!
Booya! And Keldor! I kinda regret picking him up when I had the chance on cyber Monday.
Strobo = awesome, no waiting all year like for Sorceress.
Fang Man - whoa, people are gonna light some torches.
That said, this is a clearly transparent scare tactic - have we EVER had next months sale revealed before this months even happened? I can't recall in my time here.
This is clearly being done to scare people into the Flmation sub, and I have a feeling that Fang Man will end up day of sale some time later this year. It just makes no sense for them to have only exactly made enough for sub holders.
I like Strobo...
Fang Man is only available through the sub! You can't buy him day off.
The Blonde Teela (Battleground and Alcala Teela) Thread
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Strobo sweet! March is looking to be a great month for MOTUC!
Well, Strobo....I have a month to decide, and I may get an extra Mek for MOSC.
Recent.... Arrow, Tung Lashor & Bow
Coming.... Mermista
Wanted.... NA She-Ra, Double Mischief, Jitsu....
Needed.... Dragstor
Oh man, did I forget to use these [sarcasm][/sarcasm] again? Sorry....
So it looks like Fang Man, along with King He-Man, are going to be the rarest figures in the line thus far, moreso than Fisto.
To be fair, they said this could happen last summer. Whether or not anybody thought this scenario would actually happen is another story, and not at all ToyGuru nor Mattel's fault. It's a tricky business decision, because this sends the message for 2014 AND for the Filmation sub "If you are serious about getting the figures you like, subscribe- otherwise you may end up with a gap in your collection."
I think sales of the 2014 sub are going to be all set come this summer... LOL!
Must-Haves in 2015: Lord Masque, Quakke, Sagitar, Negator, Peekablue, Granita, Dragstor, Crita, Prahvus, Classic Toy Costume Catra Vs. Starburst She-Ra
Oh man I didn't even see that he won't be up for day of. Uh-oh.
Secondly while I need Keldor, it does suck I had to cherry pick the BF/CM sale & he was left out. Oh well at least I'll get him this time.
The Space Mutants are missing something CRITAcal!
Chocolate and Vanilla swiiiirl. Swur-Urrl. -Crazy Eyes
Okay for my fellow orgers that have used early access. How does it work, and how easy is it??
Very cool! Now I just have to remember.
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Cool to have Strobo so soon! I was lookin' forward to the goofy SOB. Man, March is gona be awesome! That should be enough to make me forget about NA He-Man for at least another week before the burning desire sets back in. July feels so far...
"Since you got here by not thinking, it seems reasonable to expect that, in order to get out, you must start thinking." ~ Tock, the Watchdog
Alexx has a blog?! Come on in and check out Toys and Tomfoolery! You won't regret it...until the next morning.
Kowl, the know it owl!
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Yesss!! I will get my Strobo!!!
Ya Tengo El Poder!!!!!!
Great news on Strobo!
I already have my extra Zodak to display helmet less!
Por el Poder de Grayskull!!!...
Ya tengo el poder!!
My Feedback thread!!
still happy to be a cherry picker but happy for those who are jazzed sorry for those who are freaking out in not getting fang man easily. same for strobo.
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Thanks for the note of encouragement Christina. I have heard similar stories.
I totally think my son will be fine given enough time, but it's frustrating to hear from the teachers (preschool) that they can't understand him sometimes, especially when he is being shy. However, he has improved dramatically and I'm happy to report it's not his vocabulary the speech therapist wants to work on, but rather the annunciation of certain letters. It's odd because it's almost a habit of how he says some words.
He says "mama", but says "nem" and "nem" for M&M's for example. They are the same sounds so he can say it, but doesn't. Two of my favorite words that he says incorrectly are duplicate and favorites. They sound like poop-a-kit and say-bits. So cute now, but maybe not later.
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Miller Park Zoo
Miller Park Zoo is the only Illinois zoo to feature the endangered Sumatran tiger. The zoo also offers many exhibits and Zookeeper interaction opportunities that are enjoyed by the whole family. Some highlights include: sun bear, reindeer, Harbor Seals, red pandas, lemurs, Galapagos Tortoise, Bald Eagles, Pallas' Cat, Snow Leopards, gibbons, and Red Wolves. The Zoo features many large indoor and outdoor exhibits such as a Tropical America Rainforest, ZooLab, Katthoefer Animal Building, Wallaby WalkAbout, Children's Zoo, and Animals of Asia.
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Grady's Family Fun Center
As Bloomington-Normal's only amusement park, Grady's features an 18-hole mini-golf course, batting cages, bumper boats, go-karts and kiddie rides.
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Miller Park Pavilion
This unique landmark was restored in 1977, with its Korean/Vietnam War Memorial dedicated in May of 1988.
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Darnall's Gun Works and Ranges
Darnall's Gun Works and Ranges is a family owned business that provides a place for trap shooting, target practice and personal instruction and training in the use of firearms for self-defense.
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Genevieve Green Gardens
The Genevieve Green Gardens offer a relaxing setting for contemplation and the appreciation of nature's beauty. Small gardens are tucked in at various locations; there is also a formal compass garden with a beautiful arbor, a Japanese garden, and a main plaza that is highlighted by a water feature. Walkways, accompanied by tasteful signage, conveniently guide visitors around the property and are in harmony with the landscape's topography. Carefully designed lighting makes it possible to enjoy the gardens during evening hours.
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Upper Limits Rock Climbing Gym
Upper Limits has more than 20,000 square feet of climbing, including routes up to 110 feet tall. Other features include a wave-wall, bi-level cave, and a unique outdoor bouldering area. Upper Limits accommodates all ages and skill levels, offering introductory and advanced classes, parties, group rates, scout programs, and team building exercises. Come visit Upper Limits, one of the largest and tallest gyms in the world!
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Synergy Flight Center, LLC
Synergy Flight Center offers a number of recreational activities for visitors. They offer introductory flights, flight lessons and a flight simulator that visitors can rent by the hour.
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Constitution Trail
The Constitution Trail is a 36.4 mile asphalt and crushed stone trail of moderate difficulty. It begins at Atwood Wayside trailhead in Bloomington. Lined with trees where a variety of birds call home, you'll also find a fishing pond as well as an expanse of native prairie grassland.
CITY: Bloomington
Friends Creek Conservation Area
18 miles north of Decatur on Route 48 near Argenta. The park feature three nature trails - the quarter-mile Friends Creek Trail, the 2-mile Woodland Trail, and the 2.5-mile Sun Trail. Each varies in difficulty and meanders through topographies ranging from open meadows and floodplains, to towering oak-hickory forests and undulating hillsides.
CITY: Cisco
Weldon Springs State Park
Weldon Springs State Recreation Area is a 550-acre state park located near Clinton, Illinois. It centers on Salt Creek and the impoundment of a tributary, Weldon Springs, to form Weldon Spring Lake, a reservoir.
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Green Acres Baitshop and Campground
Full line bait shop, with 50-site campground. Full hook-up, showers and toilets.
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Ultimate Play Space - Spray & Play Park
This 13-acre park allows kids to exercise their mind and body! Water park runs Memorial Day to Labor Day, weather permitting.
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Little Galilee Christian Assembly
Little Galilee's 228 acres of land provide lots of room for kids to eat, sleep, learn, play and pray with dedicated Christian adults. There are a variety of camps and programs that for youth and adults which may include: Fine Arts or Sports camp, Equestrian Camp, Family Camp, Main Camp, Day Camp, Wilderness Camp and many more.
CITY: Clinton
Clinton Lake State Recreation Area
Enjoy 9,300 acres of great outdoor picnicking, hiking, camping, hunting, fishing, swimming, boating, water skiing. Fall foliage, winter offers ice fishing, snowmobiling on frozen lake. 308 campsites, Private marina.
CITY: Dewitt
Lazy H Stables
One- and two-hour guided horseback rides by reservation only. Hayrack rides offered in fall. Open April 1 - October 1.
CITY: Ellsworth
Twin Groves Wind Farm
Located on the wind-swept Bloomington Moraine in eastern McLean County, Twin Groves Wind Farm offers 396 megawatts of affordable, pollution-free wind energy, enough to meet the annual energy needs of about 118,000 homes. Learn more about this exciting new facility with a farm tour.
CITY: Ellsworth
Woodlawn Country Club
This nine-hole walking course features plenty of trees, and water that comes into play on seven of the nine holes. A snack bar is available.
CITY: Farmer City
Heyworth Valley Parachute Club
CITY: Heyworth
Comlara Park Visitor's Center
This enviromental education facility houses permanent audio/visual wildlife displays, artifacts originating from the site and a rotating summer exhibit.
CITY: Hudson
Sunnyside Acres
Small campground.
CITY: Kenney
Outlaw Outfitters - Le Roy
One-hour guided horseback rides, hayrack and carriage rides for private rental, and barn dances are available. Open through March and October.
CITY: Le Roy
Lake of the Woods Forest Preserve
Lake of the Woods County Park is a 900-acre preserve that features an 18-hole regulation golf course, a 9-hole par 3 course and practice range, fishing, boating, hiking, picnicking, cross-country skiing, sledding the Hi-Tower bell carillon and observation area, a 3.3 mile bicycle/pedestrian path, the Museum of the Grand Prairie, Mabery Gelvin Botanical Gardens, building rentals and various programs.
CITY: Mahomet
River Bend Forest Preserve
The 275-acre River Bend Forest Preserve south of Mahomet contains approximately 130 acres of clear water in two lakes, one of which is the largest public lake in Champaign County, and includes 2.5 miles of forest along the Sangamon River.
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Not Roth ul burger
Still like him though.
It's roeth LIS burger
Not Roth ul burger
Still like him though.
Gruden is a good dude. Gotta like Chucky.
Ok, as soon as I say Chucky is a good guy he starts talking trash....evil bastard.
This is Chucky:
We got our "6-PACK" - time to work on a CASE!
I love Gruden, he's passionate about the game, he knows the game and he explains what you are seeing in layman's terms. One of my favorite announcers.
1.15) Ryan Shazier - ILB/OLB
2.46) Stephon Tuitt - DE
3.97) Dri Archer - RB
4.118 ) Martavis Bryant - WR
5.157) Shaquille Richardson - CB
6.173) Wesley Johnson - OT
6.192) Jordan Zumwalt - ILB
7.215) Daniel McCullers - DT
7.230) Rob Blanchflower - TE
"Before you can win a game, you have to not lose it." -- Chuck Noll
then he says "keenan lewis instead of Javier Arenas" on a play.. it happens..
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Hey again guys, was just gonna add that armory hasnt gotten updated yet, so my char is still holy specced and in its holy gear.
Also, red sword of courage dropped for me in up today! =) So now im at 533 defense, 7 more to go for naxx tanking =)
Ive been gearing my pally in some heroics, getting items from emblems & some items from raids when noone else has needed em. But it seems to be kinda hard to become defcapped for me, i have enchanted pretty much each and every part of my gear with +defense rating, and every piece of my armor but my wep is meant for tanking.
The only items i need from heroics now is the tanking wep from UP hc, wich i do every day, and i also need a decent pair of shoulders.
So, i was hoping i could have some advice on how to become defcapped, Kinda boring to be told you cant come tank in rads because i have 13 defense less than is needed.
Heres the armory link to my char: The World of Warcraft Armory
Hey again guys, was just gonna add that armory hasnt gotten updated yet, so my char is still holy specced and in its holy gear.
Also, red sword of courage dropped for me in up today! =) So now im at 533 defense, 7 more to go for naxx tanking =)
have you picked up seal on the pantheon yet? when you say 13 from the def cap are you referring to the raid minimum (not cap) of 540 or the heroic minimum of 535?
I was referring to 540 def cap, had 526 atm. Now that i have red sword of courage i have 533, so only 7 more now. I have not picked up seal of pantheon yet, But thanks for the advice gonna farm it some and try to get it.
Also, got a epic tanking ring crafted and got a 16 def rating gem to it, so im at 535 defense now, 5 more and im off to raids =)
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Just gonna add that the armory for my char has been updated with all the new gear i have gotten today.
Here are some suggestions on improvements that would help you out to get to the defense cap. I would first get the Sons of Hodir enchant on your sholders. If that does not push you to the 540 def, then I would swap out the Valdor Metal of the First War with the Seal of the Pantheon or get the Iron Smith Pauldrons in HoL.
Gear improvements (at least until you get better defense gear out of Naxx)
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Also you need to run the Sons of Hodir quests to get at least honored to get the +10 defense rating to sholders. Or exhalted to get the +15 defense rating. That alone would probably get you to the defense cap or really close.
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Some good suggestions about. I'd also say that for your helm, since you're already ignoring the socket bonus with a red gem in a blue socket, swap that out for a +16 defense gem. Then work on getting the SoH choulser enchants (or if you're exalted with the aldors or scryers, go back and get that shoulder enchant to hold you over) and work towards upgrading your shoulders with the ones from either H Gundrak or H HoL.
Good luck!
Thanks for the answers guys! Changed some gems in my gear and i am now defcapped! =)
I Don't know what is the fuss about Defcap, i was tanking without being Defcapped and did it without a wipe because of it.
To be honest i wasn't the MT but OF in 25 Naxx but was MTing Naxx 10 all alone.
install Tankpoints addon to calculate exactly how many percents you left until you won't be hit with non mitigated attack while using the Holy Shield.
Good Luck.
With Naxx 25 gear you'll be Defcapped really quick so i wouldn't worry about it at first.
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First, while the likelihood of a wipe to a boss is small due to an unlucky crit, it's non-zero, especially when learning the instance. All else being equal, the raid leader should pick the crit-immune tank.
Second, the crit-immune tank presumably has shown more up-front dedication in getting her own gear in good shape rather than relying on being carried by the rest of the raid.
In short, while you can tank without crit immunity if needed, it does put you at a competitive disadvantage.
Hit can be capped...meaning at some point adding to it will provide no bonus what-so-ever. Adding def will always give you a bonus to stats and therefor has no cap. You're trying to become uncrittable or crit immune not def capped. It may just be a matter of wording but why use the wrong ones and give people a bad impression right ?
Good luck with your gear, Once you get into some 10 mans better stuff will come pretty quick.
I meant reaching the 540 target.Originally Posted by Damonvile
I'm not sure that 0.25% to be critted will be that important, it's still a change but it's like winning a lottery chance.Originally Posted by Roana
And all that was back then before i was in Hardcore guild.
Bojik: if you are sitting at 538 defense how do you justify missing out on 50 odd def rating when it is so easy to get?
Afrokamel: I would strive to stay above 540 def while gearing up, every epic upgrade will have less defense rating on it compared to blueitems, potentially dipping you below the minimum.
Did you get Achievement for that?
I wasn't the person to be able to craft them nor buy them, and farmed 5 man content.
If the person had them he would't made that post.
And contribute to the post instead of flaming each of my comment.
Keep in mind that hitting the def "floor" (i.e., the lowest acceptable amount of Def) is important, but does not, in and of itself, qualify you for tanking Naxx/OS. HP and avoidance are important stats too, and having 540 Def does not assure an appropriate amount of HP or avoidance.
1) it's in all dodge, not balanced with your other avoidance stats
2) dodge gets hit the hardest by DR
3) in addition to that 1% avoidance, the defense rating also gives 0.33% block chance. 0.33% block > 0.03% dodge any day
Edit: and if you want to throw in another, 4) thorim in ulduar is going to dock you 200(?) def skill on 25 man (100 on 10 man). if you stack up high enough and throw on the elixer of major def, you could potentially get it high enough to not be crushed even after the unbalancing strike. Now it wouldn't be difficult at all to simply switch tanks, which is why i didn't include it initially, but an interesting fact
Last edited by Erichilles; 03-09-2009 at 11:22 AM.
Sorry, i probably didn't express myself correctly, Defense is the only stat you can stack because of no Diminishing Returns on it.
I just meant that if you have 539 defense and the Raid leader won't invite you because of it, that would be strange.


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Greetings all,
Would anyone be able to point me in the direction of some good prot PvP warriors with videos out? My Google ability seems to dwindling because I'm not really coming up with anything good on either Google or YouTube.
What I'm looking for is just something that will give me a general overview on how the class feels to play in PvP. It doesn't have to be commentated or anything. It doesn't have to be the greatest skill level, but something that seems to show what the class' feel is.
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oh my warchief. i was debating about weather to go pvp prot or just /quit wow alltogether (as i hate PuGs and am in a social guild) but this film has changed my mind. PVP here i come. im tauren horde so you know ill be the biggest badass on the BG. i do however have a few questions.
1) what to gem for and what are the caps (never dpsed in my life, im still going prot but pvp needs dps)
2) specc?
3) most importantly i understand some stance dancing is involved in this. now being a tank since forever both arms and zerker stance are as alien to me as playing a mage. when to i swap? advice is MUCHO appreciated.
PVP in protection spec is all I have ever played but I can tell you it isn't glorious, pretty much like being a tank now. You have no taunts to use though and you can't beat down people so easily so your job is to cause mayhem and beat down squishy.. Your job is to take out healers, totems and lay down confusion. To run in over and over an die for nothing else but to cause confusion.. It is not a glorious position but it is so damn much fun.. Hard to rally up deaths tho, I am so behind my other guildies on dying..
It takes coordinated effort to kill you if you are trying hard enough.. and if they are disorganized you can just switch targets from them and go after their healers in their faces.. It is like the fly between the eyes tactic, just keep landing right between their eyes.. You switch targets pound on the highest res guy relentlessly to get him to attack you and tie him in a 5 minute useless fight. While your guys take out the others.. Or if you notice he is gun ho to kill you then you can move on to the next guy now you have two of them tied up.
I am not sure a video is going to spell this out for you but entering a PVP arena will. You will have some extra time in most cases to get an idea what is going on anyway. Find all your interrupts and things to screw with people and go have some fun! Obviously I don't want to lead into my tactics to much as I am Contravene in PVP as well.
Hope your game play improves
Prot pvp focuses less on burning people down and more on controlling the field.
As prot, you have the benefit of mobility. No other warrior spec offers as much mobility as prot. With warbringer you can charge and intercept in any stance. Intervene is available in def stance and heroic leap is available. In RBG you
Become a great flag runner as result (add spell reflect and
All of the warrior cooldowns.)
In RBG You will be the flag runner. In arena... I'm sure there is a use in 5s but 2s probably not.
You gear the same as prot pvp as you do arms pvp (that is to say pvp gear is your focus.) Highest Resilience possible.
You might re-gem for stam instead of str for higher survivability.
EDIT: spec: be sure to pick up Second Wind, Blood Craze and gag order. Safeguard too. BnT is fun though not entirely necessary.
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Prot PVP with a healer behind him keeping a flag is where i usually find my fortae (sp?)
ive had around 6-8 vs me an a heals and kept a flag / base from being taken
spell reflecting / stunning / fearing / disarming
i dont think i got one kill but i annoyed the dam hell out of them i can tell you that
as prot pvp u want to gear/enchant/gem as if you was DPS
ie strength / crit
u dont need defensive stats as that comes with ur build
most of ur abilities can be used in battle stance an this is where i spend most of my time
def stance only really needed for defensive cd's and disarm
time ur interupts well and ur stuns and spell reflects even better an shield slams HS etc and u can take people down, but its not easy
i think its alot of fun to be honest,
also learn to use intervene it can make the differance between win or lose
chuck ur vigilance on ur squishy friend
because of how vig works now it will build u up some nice AP to shield wall/shield slam someone for a nice big chunk
lol it seems lawder finally did get prot warriors nerfed as the video predicted, with shield bash now gone, spell reflect nerfed to hell and only arms and fury getting a dps boost as any sort of recompense, prot is now even more difficult do pvp without getting all your kills stolen.
Honestly if you are worried about getting kills, then you should roll arms or fury. Prot is for control and utility pressure, not killing blows.
Also the nerf to spell reflect isn't gonna be that bad. Spell Reflect: 20sec cd with glyph, Pummel: 10 sec cd, Charge Stun: 15 sec cd, Intimidating Shout: 1 min cd, Intercept Stun: 30 sec cd, Concussion Blow: 30 sec cd, Shockwave: 20 sec cd, Heroic Throw Silence: 30 sec cd. Thats 23 different ways to interupt a cast, in three different types of diminishing returns, over the course of a minute. And thats not including the new Shield Block casting damage reduction, or the fact that pummel will no longer miss.
Prot PVP will provide the same benefits it did before, and will continue to remain viable in both 3's/5's arena and rated bgs.
i used to destroy prot pvp... been out of the game since before cataclysm and getting back into it in a couple days... interesting to see how i'm going to do it without imp. spell reflect, shield bash, and some of the arms talents i used to grab...
i was UA (unrelenting assault) spec for a while a couple years ago... that shit is weird but was pretty fun in arena or bgs if you were lucky enough to have some melee focus you... in either ua or straight prot, revenge stun was nuts. not to mention shockwave glyph & conc blow... plus, i'm tauren, so working war stomp into the mix made stunlock pretty easy... with silence/daze/hamstring in between if i couldn't get a stun off. oh, nostalgia.
I like Daijozen, and he inspired me to go back to Prot for PvP, go watch his stuff.
(hope this thread wasnt too old to reply to... :S )
i subscribe to this thread and i'm always willing to discuss it so bumping it is fine with me.
i've gone back to it in cata and i think it's still viable if you gear correctly and have the right addons for timing everything. more for bgs than arena but i've been using it in arena and haven't had many complaints from my arena partners. i still like african turtle cleave, but i haven't experimented too much. also had an excellent combo with an arcane mage... he was going frost but switched to his pve arcane spec to do more damage. i did the stuns, he burst em down, it was pretty easy unless we were against an OP combo like fmage/rogue.
i'm wondering a couple things... what shield enchant do you use? 50 mastery? i was using pyrium shield spike on my vicious shield but put 50 mastery on my ruthless. both are only helpful for melee classes and neither are great. and do you use a medallion for breaking cc or double dps trinket like daijozen?
the stunlock is still pretty sick if you use charge correctly and switch to another target when you int. shout (glyphed) to avoid diminishing returns.
i reforged my haste into crit but not my expertise. i have around 10 expertise i think, and i try to get behind people but it depends on the class... so i'm okay with having some expertise more for the rage gain than the dps gain.
do you spec into arms or fury after 51? right now i'm doing fury but i think i'm going back to arms, mostly because i've noticed how good second wind is for other warriors. i have to remember not to stun them and hit demo shout, thunder clap, and disarm to gimp them but otherwise stick to straight damage because they'll just heal through all my stuns... also when fighting warriors it's kinda the opposite of other classes and i don't have a problem hitting int. shout early to force them to use berserker rage so they might not have it for enraged regen later... anyway, it's basically second wind vs. piercing howl, and i can see a lot of utility in both. piercing howl is better than hamstring for getting kited all those times when you're just out of range for hamstring and shockwave is on CD.
still can't solo healers unless i get really lucky and line all the stuns/silences up just right (and silence pallies when they're trying to bubble)... again, usually int. shouting a different nearby target is best for finishing off a healer because it's 8 whole seconds.
i also use the following macros:
this is my "OMG" macro (and yes i'm herb/alch... endless healing potion sucks but at least i know it'll always be in my bag)
/cast Rallying Cry
/use Healthstone
/cast Lifeblood(Rank 8)
/cast Enraged Regeneration
/use Endless Healing Potion
/cast Shield Wall
this one will sometimes cast HS after Revenge, and try to cast VR if it's available... you may not like it if you find you're starved for rage, but since Revenge and VR are basically free, I figure I'd rather drop extra damage simultaneously.
#showtooltip Revenge
/castsequence reset=1 Revenge, Heroic Strike
/cast Victory Rush
same as above, tries to cast HS simultaneously with VR since VR is free.
#showtooltip Victory Rush
/cast Victory Rush
/cast Heroic Strike
ditto, except this time i'm combining all ranged stuff with Heroic Throw... good for being rooted and having no immediate way to break it. although i'm trying to get better at intervening out of CC.
#showtooltip Heroic Throw
/cast Heroic Throw
/cast Heroic Strike
/cast Throw
/cast Shoot
switch to berserker, cast colossus, switch back... i won't always spam this, sometimes i'll hit hamstring or execute while i'm in zerk, but this macro works to switch back whenever you're ready to go back. you could do battle stance too if you're more comfortable with that and want to have shattering throw available instead of in its own macro. i have identical macros for this, hamstring, and shattering. /cast is only in there twice to make sure it doesn't try to give me any wrong stance bullshit.
#showtooltip Colossus Smash
/cast Colossus Smash
/cast [stance:2] Berserker Stance
/cast Colossus Smash
/cast [stance:3] Defensive Stance
this one's risky, it uses ruthless gladiator's badge of victory for 2029 str, pops reck, and shield block, depending on what's available, and tries to hit shield slam if i happen to spam it more than once. you might not like attempting to use recklessness with every shield block, but it's a matter of using it as many times as it's up vs. trying to time it perfectly. i've gone back and forth about using reck here, but i do think it's great for the trinket still if you just wanna delete that line. no reason not to be using SB/SS in combination with trink.
#showtooltip Shield Block(Defensive Stance)
/use 14
/cast Recklessness
/castsequence reset=1 Shield Block(Defensive Stance), Shield Slam
again, you might not like this one, but i forget to use inner rage exactly when i need to, and since i have HS macro'd with revenge/vr/ht, the times when i hit the key to use HS specifically is typically when i'm trying to finish somebody, which means i'm gonna want inner rage and it has no rage cost.
#showtooltip Heroic Strike
/cast Inner Rage
/cast Heroic Strike
int. shout breaks if you autoattack your primary target afterwards... the rest of the feared targets can be hit, but not the one you were targeting at time of cast. you don't wanna waste it. i also have devastate and some other attacks macro'd to /startattack or /cast Auto Attack
/cast Intimidating Shout
the way macros used to work, i would have had all these listed in opposite order to try to cast revenge or execute if they were available instead of devastate. unfortunately, it doesn't work that way now, but OCCASIONALLY i'll see this proc one of them instead of dev. i don't know exactly how or why, but it's fine with me. if anyone has a better suggestion for this, let me know.
#showtooltip Devastate
/cast Devastate
/cast [stance:2] Revenge(Defensive Stance)
/cast [stance:1/3] Execute(Battle, Berserker Stance)
Well Lautoa, I had a pretty solid Arms set when I wanted to go back to Prot, 4-5 pieces of Ruthless gear I think.
I looked about the net, at Foni and many others then when I saw what Daijozen was doing and I really liked it.
I basically changed talents and glyphs, and left all the red gems and enchants I had on the gear.
I have had a lot of fun going offensive in BG's, and a lot of laughs in 2v2 as well.
I am Orc so the human 2 dps trinkets doesnt work for me.
I dont have the experience yet to really push high ratings in arena, but our guilds rated BG's go really well with me in there as prot.
But due to me not doing arena as much, I am tempted to go full defence (change my JC gems from str to resil etc).
I really like your macro's, in fact I have the ranged one you use but I added Taunt to it as well.
I should copy and paste my other macros into here as well. I will one day soon.
Last edited by Wulfram; 08-24-2011 at 07:33 PM. Reason: added words
Here is a Prot PvP video I made this past weekend. There is another on my channel and a few Arms videos as well...including a PvE DPS guide and a couple from random BGs. I plan on making new Prot videos at least weekly, and probably more frequently since I just got onto a decent Rated Battleground team.
This is Daijozen from Us-Darkspear. He whoops up on dat ass.