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My daughter stood out in the rain in New York City with many other passengers waiting for a Greyhound Bus that never arrived. The pick-up time was eight o'clock at night and she arrived at seven. She was finally forced to leave at eleven thirty because the other passengers left and she was alone on the street. The pick-up location has no enclosed shelter just full exposure to the weather and everyone was caught in a rain storm. She tried contacting Greyhound through different numbers to determine if the bus was in an accident. Greyhound has no numbers to tell passengers if one of their buses is going to arrive or not. They have plenty of phone numbers when it comes to services that require payment from you. The bus drivers that maintain these routes should at the very least be given phone numbers of designated passengers to let them know the bus will not arrive. Clearly Greyhound is not interested in
putting their passengers first. My daughter has very little time off of work to visit her family. Rescheduling is very difficult at best. From what I understand there is no cash refund on her bus ticket.
Greyhound gets what they want and my daughter gets nothing, another indication of profits over people.
My friends and family want to know what happen to the bus and why you have poor passenger communication. Based on other complaints I have read you appear to be a company that has very poor customer relations.
I want my daughter to have a cash refund so she can reschedule a home visit in the future from a transportation service of her choice.
The following information is about her pick-up location and reference number on her ticket. I want this matter investigated.
I will be filing my complaint to other websites so potential passengers can be warned ahead of time of you total lack of regard for your passengers.
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Bus Pick-up Location:
N. W. Corner of 34 St. & 8th Ave.
Curbside-Not Enclosed
New York Penn Station, NY 12550
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trmn8r on 08/20/2011:
I can't imagine a bus service that would have its drivers call selected customers in the event the bus has a breakdown, etc. It is a novel idea though in the age of cell phones.
What seems more logical to me is that Greyhound have a website that shows a status of buses on the schedule. I'm not sure how it would be designed, or how it would be updated, but it seems more feasible than calling passengers.
It's a darned shame what happened to your daughter. I have never used an unmanned Greyhound station, and I too would be at a loss for what to do if the bus didn't show.
Good complaint!
Venice09 on 08/20/2011:
That's a good idea, trmn since many people can access the internet on their phones. The website could be updated like the airlines.
A similar thing happened to my daughter with a different bus line when she was going back home. The bus did finally arrive, but her father stayed with her the whole time because it was dark and the the bus stop was in an unmanned parking lot. She was able to call for updates, but they weren't very helpful.
trmn8r on 08/20/2011:
Thanks Venice - that is what I was thinking. Not I, but the rest of the world could check the site on their handheld communications device.
Knowing Greyhound, this will NEVER HAPPEN.
Venice09 on 08/20/2011:
I'd rather walk that board a Greyhound bus. From what I've read, it is a terrible company.
trmn8r on 08/20/2011:
It depends. If you don't mind smelling urine and alcohol breath, while being solicited for change, the bus station can be charming.
The ride itself can remind you of what life is like in the real world, replete with rude passengers yacking on their cell phones to pass the time, while the signs all around say "no cell phone use". You too can experience bus drivers who aren't familiar with your route, and perhaps get stuck seated next to someone who doesn't use deodorant.
Venice09 on 08/20/2011:
Uh, no thanks.
Anonymous on 08/21/2011:
Good suggestion. Let us know what you find out.
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They Say "Go Greyhound", I Say "No Greyhound"
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KINGMAN, ARIZONA -- Okay, I'll admit it….over the course of my 50 plus years, I have made some pretty stupid decisions. My focus, or lack thereof on education in high school and college, bad career choices early on and don't even get me started on my first two marriages. Often times, some of my bad decisions have been financially driven; you know to save a few bucks. I can't think of any decisions more idiotic than the adventure I experienced this past weekend. The following story I am about to share, believe it or not, is completely accurate.
With only a few days notice, I needed to travel to the Salt Lake City area from Kingman in Arizona to pick up a vehicle which had been loaned to a family member. Because of my job, I travel a lot by air and knew that booking a one-way flight on such short notice was probably going to be pretty expensive, also taking into consideration the fact that my wife would have to drive me to the airport in Las Vegas to catch the flight making it a round trip drive of over 200 miles for her which certainly added to the decision process. Still, I looked into flight options and at the time, a one-way fare was much more than I wanted to spend.
I looked into Amtrak which has a stop in Kingman but the schedule, the amount of transfers and the cost wasn't making this option very attractive. Then, I proceeded to check out Greyhound which also has a stop located here in Kingman. The bus fare, even on such short notice was reasonable. My wife told me "I really don't like that idea, have you ever taken Greyhound before?" I said "No, how bad can it be?" Trust me when I say it is really BAD!!!!
Disregarding my wife's warning, I went ahead and booked the ticket. The schedule indicated that I would board the bus at the stop in Kingman with a departure of 5:25pm on Friday evening and after making one transfer in Las Vegas and a few stops along the way, I would arrive at my destination in Provo, Utah at 5:55am Saturday morning. Travel through the night, get some sleep, pick up the vehicle when I arrive and make my way back to Kingman getting me home around 3:00pm that afternoon, this should work great! Wrong!
On my day of travel, Friday, June 21st, I spent some time checking out the Greyhound website, reading information for first-time travelers, the new fleet of buses equipped with power outlets at each seat, on-board Wi-Fi, and thinking this was going to work out pretty well. I looked up the address of the bus stop and did a search on Google Maps to find the location which happens to be right where two large truck stops are just a few miles from my house. I knew right where this was and assumed it was one of the truck stops as that would make sense. I did have a couple of questions though so I sent an e-mail to two different Greyhound customer service e-mail addresses that I could find, it is now Monday, June 24th and I still have yet to receive a response.
The information on the website indicates that you should be at the bus stop prepared to board one hour prior to the scheduled departure time. My brother-in-law J. D. drove me over to the address listed which turned out to be the McDonalds located between the two trucks stops…interesting!
That Friday evening, we arrived at 4:15pm, well ahead of the scheduled time. Looking all over, I found nothing that referenced Greyhound until I noticed a small Greyhound sign hanging 15 feet in the air below the golden arches. J. D. and I sat in the truck waiting for the bus to arrive; the schedule indicated that Kingman was a meal stop so I expected the bus would arrive around 5:00. Well that time had come and gone, same with 5:25, the scheduled departure time. At 5:35, I got on the phone to call customer service to first make sure I was in the right spot and second to find out where the bus was. I am positive I was connected with an outsourced call-center in the Far East. The individual on the phone was very difficult to understand and at the same time he could not understand me. Frustration was starting to build while at the same time it was almost comical thinking about what my wife had said. What I could make out from the customer service agent was that the bus was delayed due to weather and that if it does not arrive within the next hour, I will have to catch the bus that departs Kingman at 5:30am on Saturday morning.
6:30pm rolled around and still no sign of the bus so I called the customer service number again. This person could not tell me where the bus was and suggested that I call the station in Flagstaff to see if they have any information as this was the stop prior to Kingman. The agent in Flagstaff had indicated that the bus was running late and had just left there 30 minutes ago. Flagstaff is approximately 150 miles from Kingman which means the bus is not going to arrive for another two hours, meanwhile I am supposed to be making a connection in Las Vegas on a bus that is scheduled to depart at 10:00pm. I called Greyhound Customer Service again telling them that my bus was not going to arrive in time to make my connection in Las Vegas and asked that they reissue my ticket for the bus that departs Kingman on Saturday morning, I will just go home and come back to catch that one. The agent said, "I'm sorry, we can't do that". I then asked to speak to a supervisor and after being on hold for 15 minutes I was connected with Leif, agent number 4919 and supposedly a supervisor. I told him that because their bus was late, I was going to miss my connection and that the next bus departing Las Vegas for Salt Lake City was not until nearly 8:00am Saturday morning and asked if they were going to put me up in a room in Las Vegas to which he responded "I'm sorry, we don't do that". Am I supposed to stay in the bus station for eight hours? Receiving no resolution whatsoever, including a refund on the ticket, I decided to wait it out.
The agent in Flagstaff was off a bit as the bus finally arrived at 7:30pm. Turns out the Greyhound bus stop in Kingman is a gravel and asphalt parking space behind one of the truck stops and next to McDonalds dispelling that mystery. When the driver got off the bus, he announced to all of the passengers that Kingman was a meal stop that they will be there for 30 minutes. I asked the driver if there was anyway that I was going to make it to Las Vegas in time for me to make my connection that departs at 10:00pm. He apologized and said he was delayed in getting the bus in Phoenix and that it was overheating climbing the hill from Phoenix to Flagstaff causing him to be way behind schedule and that we won't make it to Las Vegas until about 11:00pm. The bus by the way, was not one of these new buses described on the Greyhound website.
It was now 8:00pm, the meal stop was over and the driver asked everyone to get on board. As the seating is first come, first serve, I had to wait until all of the current passengers got on board before I could. The driver was actually a really nice guy and the only positive thing about this experience, I wish I had taken his name but as the level of frustration was at what I thought was its peak, I was not thinking about offering any pleasant comments. He told me before we boarded that one of the front seats was open. We got on the road a few minutes past 8:00 heading to a stop in Bullhead City, dropped off a couple of people and headed to Henderson on the outskirts of Las Vegas. The stop here appeared to be an abandoned convenience store, absolutely no lights whatsoever and as the driver described, not the best neighborhood in the world. A woman and her young child were going to get off the bus and the driver asked if their ride was here. She said that he was on his way and driver told her that he could not let her off the bus if her ride was not there. She stayed on and got off with everyone else when we reached the Las Vegas Greyhound Station, yes an actual station around 11:00pm.
It must have been an anomaly, but the bus that I was supposed to catch in Vegas for Salt Lake actually left when it was scheduled at 10:00pm. I proceeded to the ticket/customer service counter to have my ticket exchanged for the 7:55am departure. After waiting in line for 30 minutes, wow can you imagine that, other people having issues with Greyhound, I told the agent I needed my ticket exchanged for the morning bus. That will be $20. What?!?! You are going to charge me $20 because your bus was late forcing me to miss the connecting bus? We got that squared away and he issued me a ticket for the morning bus.
My wife called to let me know that she used her points with Marriott to get me a room in Las Vegas for the night. Good thing too because the Greyhound station in Vegas was absolutely disgusting and very crowded. I took a cab to the hotel and planned to be back to the bus station by 6:45am. Caught a few hours of sleep and returned to the station by my targeted time. Now I am out additional $30 for cab fare and my wife used points to get me a room when we could have used those points for a nice getaway for her and me.
Returning to the bus station, there are people camped out all over the place and the line to board my bus through door #2 was already a mile long. Knowing the buses only hold 55 passengers, it was going to be close whether or not I would even get on. The line was not organized in any fashion either and being right next to the entry for the ticket/customer service counter, I constantly had people bumping into me with their luggage. By 7:30, I was expecting we would be boarding very soon and I could hopefully get on my way. The scheduled departure time of 7:55am had come and gone and at approximately 8:15am, an announcement was made over the P. A. System that the bus to Salt Lake is now delayed by two hours only adding to my frustration level and a new topic. Why is there no e-mail or text communication from Greyhound letting ticketed passengers know of delays? Word was traveling around the bus station that Greyhound was waiting on drivers, seriously are you kidding me? The communication is lacking terribly. When a bus is getting ready to board, no P. A. announcements were made, no indications of bus 1234 is boarding through gate #4, etc.
At about 10:30am, some Greyhound employees started grabbing the checked baggage from those waiting in line. A man standing a few spots behind me and who had been there nearly as long as I had was asked for his checked bag for Salt Lake City. He said I am not going to Salt Lake City, I am going to Phoenix. The agent told him his bus departed about 15 minutes ago. Obviously he was not a happy person, again no announcements of which bus is boarding through which gate!
The two hour delay actually turned out to be closer to three hours as boarding time started close to 11:00am. When the door was finally opened to begin boarding, the already unorganized line became a made rush and people that were behind me all of a sudden were at the front of the line. When I finally reached the door, the driver was counting the tickets to see how many people he already had on board, luckily it was only 44 by that time so I was able to get on. Oh, by the way, another old bus without Wi-Fi, power outlets or leather seats. Funny, as I looked at the 20 or so buses parked at the station, probably 75% of them were the new buses touted on the website. All of which were just sitting there.
We were on the road shortly after 11:00am and based on the schedule I had printed, if we were following the time allotment, I should arrive in Provo at about 7:00pm which we did. This now forced me to stay another night and fortunately family located 30 minutes away provided a nice dinner and a couch for me to sleep on. I jumped in the car Sunday morning and was back in Kingman Sunday afternoon, a full day later than I should have.
The entire trip, I was making mental notes in my head of the complaint letter that was going to be written and since I was getting absolutely no help from Greyhound Customer Service in any of these matters, I needed to find a way to contact those at the top. Your website provides the names of the company executives in the about us section and ironically, when doing a search for CEO David Leach, one of the first things that popped up was the CNN article about Alec Baldwin being removed from an American Airlines flight in December of 2011 and his quote regarding flight attendants "have made flying a Greyhound experience". While I can certainly understand what Alec Baldwin was trying to convey, I find it unlikely that he has ever travelled on a Greyhound bus. He has no idea how bad a Greyhound experience really is.
I also find it ironic that Greyhound CEO David Leach makes the following statements in a letter to Mr. Baldwin regarding the comment made:
"I'm the first to admit that Greyhound has had some challenges in the past, so I understand that you probably were basing your comments on that alone. But we've made so many changes in recent years to significantly improve the travel experience," Leach writes.
"My guess is you've never traveled with us, but I ask you to give us a try for a number of reasons and see for yourself that we're really a great way to travel."
Leach then touts the hundreds of new buses the company has added to its fleet as well as the extra legroom, leather seats, power outlets and free Wi-Fi.
"I think you especially would find the latter two amenities exciting, because we don't require our customers to turn off their electronic devices ... ever. You could therefore play 'Words with Friends' during your entire trip and nobody would give you any grief over it," Leach tells Baldwin in the letter.
He also reminds the actor that Greyhound carries more than 17 million travelers a year and asks Baldwin to become one of them.
"I invite you to meet with me in New York and we'll take a trip to Boston so you can see first-hand what a great ride Greyhound can be," Leach writes.
If this is the new and improved Greyhound, I can't imagine how bad it used to be.
To Greyhound CEO David Leach and to Mr. Myron Watkins, Vice-President of Operations, I will make it my mission to tell anyone and everyone I can about my experience with Greyhound.
G. Prudham
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Karnamay on 06/25/2013:
Very interesting review. I took a Greyhound 40 years ago, in my teens. You couldn't pay me to do it again!
biomajor on 06/25/2013:
Your experience sounds awful. I haven't ridden on a Greyhound since 1987 when I on leave for Christmas during Basic Training. I see that it hasn't improved.
My sister and my niece don't drive, and rode on a Greyhound to come visit during FanFair. I waited while the bus was over an hour late getting into Nashville from Louisville, and was about 45 minutes late picking up on the return trip.
JAKFK on 06/25/2013:
I took a cross-country Greyhound 20-some years ago, and it was one of the fondest memories I have as a youth. I was in high school and took a bus from Virginia to New Mexico by myself. Sure, the bus smelled towards the restroom, and I was laid over in Pittsburgh for 8-hrs, and the driver actually had to ask the passengers for directions. But the people I met were folks I'll remember for the rest of my life. It was the essence of Americana.
trmn8r on 06/25/2013:
Yes, this is a Greyhound experience. I have used them 3 times, done the overnight in/outside (they kick the passengers and bums out from 1am to 6am) of the station thing. Travelling Greyhound makes me think of what luxury would be like in a third world country.
And yes, some of their stations are hard to find - you have to check that out ahead of time or play the Easter egg hunt that you did.
FoDaddy19 on 06/25/2013:
Very informative and descriptive review. Whilst, I've never used Greyhound for anything, so I cannot comment from personal experience, but your experience seems to be par for the course.
Xoliswa on 07/04/2013:
very awful. we have the same problems with Greyhound in South Africa as well.
I hope they read our complaints
amsuco on 07/09/2013:
Recently I found myself taking my first cross-country trip by Greyhound. To get a better idea of what to expect, I took advantage of the Internet. Now it's my turn to share. On their site, Greyhound is pushing their new buses, with wireless access, electrical outlets, and new seats with better legroom. I never had the opportunity to try out the wireless. The electrical outlets are handy. But I couldn't find ANYONE who considered the new seats to be comfortable. It's only a slight exaggeration to say that they could double as a torture device.
Greyhound may be promoting the new buses, but I was only on one about twenty percent of the time. Most of the time I was on older coaches. The older coaches may not have had wireless or electrical outlets, but the seating in the older buses was a bit more comfortable.
My worst gripe is that Greyhound seems to be in the business of selling tickets, regardless of whether or not they really have seating available. My trip started out an hour late because they had to line up a second bus to carry all the customers who had bought tickets. Later, I ended up stranded overnight in Denver because they were short of space again. It's important to note several things: This didn't happen during a holiday, so that can't be used as an excuse. I talked to enough other passengers to find out that overbooking is common on Greyhound. My tickets were bought A MONTH ahead of time, and that still wasn't enough to guarantee my seating. When customers are left stranded like I was, Greyhound considers a free meal voucher or two to be compensation for their lousy business practices.
I met a few commendable employees during my trip. But the company policies are deal-breakers. This was my first and last Greyhound experience.
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Attendant very rude said my son missed short bus
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CHATTANOOGA, TENNESSEE -- My son was stranded in Hollister Branson Mo I need to get him a bus ticket to come home. So I called to Chattanooga Bus Station and got ticket prices, they where booked for two buses 16 hours and 23 hours but he said there is a third bus which runs 19 hours I said it doesn't show one for today. I said it does for tomorrow. He said no its runs then my husband bought the ticket the man asked three times do you want to pay extra for refundable ticket. He said no he is there waiting in fact he has been there all weekend we tried to buy on line, and it wouldn't work. Because he wasn't card holder I had to pay cash. At Branson the bus is Jefferson line that takes you to Grey hound in Little Rock and it at a Spirit shop that right beside pizza shop same area seats are there. The attendant told my son the bus should be there soon he kept asking is this it. The other two loads to Little rock left at 2 and his was suppose to leave at 230 at 300 a bus came in attendant said there. The bus driver told him no son wrong bus I am going the other way he went in and attendant which is owner dad didn't know how to use computer and the bus driver had to go behind counter and seen that the bus was cancel 25 seats where not booked so that why other bus so booked up. He said there was a mistake in system where Grey hound and Jefferson line crossed up so the bus never showed. So he sits there another day man at spirit said I will make ticket for tomorrow.
Now this is where it gets good because Jefferson line changed it for tomorrow Grey hound would not let him ride they consider him missing bus and he was right there whole time. I called and very rude customer service I went thru 20 or so people that just kept passing the line yes it will be fine, oh yes then when I told them next day they made mistake oh no it won't work finally I had a rude supervisor he was yelling and screaming at me I said why are you yelling and screaming he said to talk you want shut up and let me tell you what to do. ok what can I do he said go buy another ticket, I said what is your name he told me that his name was Mr. Win said I would have to pay for another ticket or go to Chattanooga and see if they would replace it. Chattanooga attendant man was so rude he said I told your husband to buy refundable ticket he wouldn't. I said look he was there and Spirit shop going to let him ride tomorrow but Grey hound want let him board he said you have to buy another ticket. He said I am not redoing ticket because your son can't get on the short bus. Is he retarded I was so mad I hang up.
So I called Spirit and talked to the owner which said it was his dad fault and he would take care of it. He also said to stay in good standing with Greyhound he doesn't want to tell them it was his dad fault. So he said I will take care of it and he did finally good customer service. then the phone rang and it was Chattanooga Greyhound man said you lied you are a liar your son was at pizza shop and he missed the bus yesterday I am trying to get Jefferson Line not to reissue ticket you are a liar. I said it was there fault they fixed it. I said they don't want Greyhound to know what happen I said stop yelling at me and calling me a liar he said I am going to try to stop this. So I waited all night not knowing when and if he was arriving the man wouldn't tell me if he was on bus or what time he was arriving I waited all night and then finally he came in. he said it was a horrific ordeal and I just can't believe how rude customer service and Chattanooga Tn. Grey hound has been. I will say that we have used Knoxville before and it was not like this. But that was over five years ago.
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Ticket agent Gus at Corvallis Or Greyhound Station
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CORVALLIS, OREGON -- On June 13 2013 at 8:00am I went into the Corvallis Greyhound Bus Station to purchase a wired ticket from Hobbs NM to Portland OR for my husband. This was my first time ever purchasing through Greyhound. I purchased the ticket for 247.00, then called my husband to let him know the confirmation number. I thought everything was good to go and went off to work.
Later I get a call from my husband who states the ticket is incorrect; that the destination is Corvallis and not the intended Portland stop. (This was upsetting not only because it was a mistake made by Gus, but because we had a specific conversation as to my reason for destination being Portland rather than Corvallis.) Then I get another call from my husband stating there is no longer an active bus station in Hobbs NM where he was to depart from. Now I'm at work with no personal vehicle and tried multiple times to contact Gus in Corvallis by phone, only to get a constant recording and a message box that was "full", leaving me with no ability to leave a message for return assistance.
After many calls between my husband and I, the stress building, I was able to arrange a vehicle from a co-worker to drive to Corvallis from Albany to attend to the mistakes. (I lost 1.5 hours of pay on this day trying to get resolution.) When I arrived at the Greyhound Station I approached Gus and let him know I had 2 errors that needed immediate correction. First I stated the mistake of destination. His first response was to print and wire a totally new ticket while charging me a new full fee and giving me a number off the form to call for reimbursement as I paid on my debit card earlier in the day and he stated it could not be put right back on the card. I told him this was not acceptable to me to pay for two tickets in one day when it was not my mistake and that I was not willing to wait and stress to get my money back from an unknown entity. He then proceeded to tell me that it would cost me more to have the destination changed. This makes no sense to me as Portland is before Corvallis, that's less mileage. (when my husband reached Luback TX and got his physical ticket he saw that there was a stop in Portland; I believe I was over-charged) When I told him I would not pay for another ticket or pay any additional money due to his mistake he became very defensive. He proceeded to become belligerent, stating he would just take it out of his own pocket since I refused extra payment. He then proceeded to make quite the production by having everybody in the station step outside because he as he stated, he needed to lock up and walk around the corner to the bank to withdraw the needed money. He came back after about 5 minutes and handed me $20, stating that this left him with $3 dollars in his account for the next week. His behavior continued to be very defensive. He then proceeded to call his wife from behind the counter to let her know what he had to do to appease a customer, making quite the production of the situation. While he is on the phone I 'm left standing there waiting to complete this part of the transaction. I then addressed the issue of no active bus station in Hobbs NM and questioned why he would sell me a ticket knowing this. (Remember that this is my first Greyhound experience and I don't know what I'm doing.)
After about 15 minutes of frustration he finally took the initiative to explain the process of the ticket not having to be physically at a station to get on. He could have told me this from the beginning, but chose not to. Ultimately, I left very upset and frustrated, giving him his money back and just leaving the ticket as is.
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FoDaddy19 on 06/20/2013:
Seems like Gus went above and beyond here. You really didn't leave with much choice, as he offered a solution that you didn't want to accept.
A debit card doesn't work like a credit card as its tied to your bank account, so return when it's over X amount has to go through whatever bank Greyhound is using first in order for the refund to be issued to your bank account. The process can take several days, it's a very common thing in retail.
If you weren't aware of Greyhounds ticket polices you could check here to see what their rules and procedures are. It's usually better know what you're dealing with beforehand. It doesn't take long, I was able to find Greyhounds policies in about 10 seconds. Doing your due diligence can save you from future headaches
Here are Greyhounds policies regarding tickets.
Mike on 07/17/2013:
I happened to be in the waiting room when this happened. I understand that this poor person had to take time off of work and so was upset already upon her visit. From the initial moment she was abusive verbally without allowing the agent to get a word in until her violent tirade had completed. (I'm surprised the police weren't called) In fact he did have to lock up the station when he went to the corner bank mentioning that the Fire Marshall wouldn't allow him to lock people inside. When he returned he did offer some cash to the lady and he remianed apologetic kept his patience throughout this affiar, above and beyond, imho
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Corporate Policies
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SHREVEPORT -- I recently planned a 7 month backpacking trip through South America, however, I had to cancel my trip when the first leg of my journey on the Greyhound bus turned out to be a horrible experience. Greyhound lost my backpack and my wallet was stolen while on the bus. Greyhound's corporate policy is that a bag is not considered lost for 24 to 48 hours after it was due to arrive at the destination. I found out that they regularly take bags off of the bus that a consumer is riding upon to make room for their Express Package shipments. It is almost impossible to reach a live person with Greyhound and when their employees don't care about providing service at any level, then why should we, the consumers use their bus service?
Here is the tale:
Monday, May 12, 2008
How Greyhound Lines, Inc. isn't a company we can trust.
After booking my ticket online, I arrived at the Shreveport Bus station where I at the misfortune of having Gloria, an older lady who apparently has been working at this bus station for a number of years and has gained the reputation of âsheâs just mean.â Usually I write down my confirmation numbers for things, however, I didnât find the Greyhound ticket confirmation number among all the other numbers I wrote down for my trip to Panama. Gloria, who apparently didnât want to provide any assistance which would take her away from being able to watch her Television show or do anything that required thought wasnât able to find my ticket information. Iâm sure itâs because she didnât know how to utilize the computer system.
Then it was a 15-minute wait on the Greyhound 800 number before I was able to reach a live person to provide assistance. I was finally able to obtain my confirmation number (2969150101) and returned to the then extremely long waiting line at the ticket counter. It seems that Dorothy and Gloria were more involved in having a conversation about personal things and watching the television then assisting customers, and Dorothy kept going back to the other office and didnât help with the long line of customers. Almost everyone in line was complaining about the bad service. I was finally able to reach the counter after a 20-minute wait and obtain my ticket. Iâm not sure what the form was that I signed, but I believed it was the confirmation signature for my ticket purchase.
The time came to board the bus, so again I waited in line. I set my large backpack in the line for the baggage handler to load it on the bus. I waited to watch to make sure it was actually loaded on the bus, which it was along with a number of other bags. Thirteen hours later I arrived in Atlanta, the first stop that required a change of buses and where I was to claim my large backpack so I could check it on the next bus. However, my backpack had been taken off the bus that I was on somewhere along the trip. I complained at the ticket counter, they sent me to a man in customer service and he sent me to check with a man in the baggage department. My backpack wasnât to be found. Not one of the employees of Greyhound were concerned that my backpack had been taken off the bus and informed me that I couldnât file a complaint until I reached my destination. While I was complaining to the baggage handler he proceeded to inform me of Greyhoundâs policy about baggage, that they would often remove bags from a bus to make room for their express package deliveries, or other bags and then put the removed bags on another bus which would arrive at a different time than the bus I was on.
On Tuesday, May 13th, I arrived in Orlando, Florida, and wasnât surprised that my backpack wasnât there. I complained at the ticket counter and was finally able to get a complaint form, but according to the form it was to be completed by a Greyhound employee and not the customer. I completed the form and handed it to the lady at the ticket counter who just threw it on the counter. The only employee that even tried to provide service was George in Orlando. No one at Greyhound was able to inform me when my backpack would arrive and because I was supposed to be catching a flight early the next morning for Panama I couldnât wait. Well, this and the fact that while on the bus someone stole my wallet and the bus driver (Cleveland Brown) wouldnât stop to allow me to file a police report and if he would have stopped then I would have been able to recover my wallet from one of the three people who stole it on the bus. Thus I had to call my family collect to get them to buy a return ticket (Conf. # 3009511701to Shreveport while I awaited my lost backpack and reorder all of the missing items from my wallet. I left Orlando on Greyhound at 8:50 pm that same evening very frustrated, upset, and distraught over the lack of customer service by Greyhound. I could have continued with my trip had my backpack arrived with me, but since I didnât know when it would arrive I had to return to Louisiana. I arrived Wednesday, May 14th, in Shreveport over an hour late.
Thursday was spent filing a complaint online through the Greyhound online system and trying to reach a live person with Greyhound to find my lost backpack. After a 30-minute wait on the Greyhound 800 number I was given another number to call (214-849-6246 the Package Department). I called and spoke with a woman who provided me a Customer ID number (1377828) so I could always use that number to talk to anyone at Greyhound. She wasnât able to inform me where my backpack was located so I insisted upon her providing me a number to talk to a supervisor. She gave me 214-849-8218, which is only a recorded message where you can leave a voice message. I left a message and waited for a return phone call. Friday I was even more upset so my sister suggested I call one number up or down from the other number, which I did and was able to reach an operator (she refused to give me her name and said that her name didnât matter, but I spoke to her at 4:42 pm) and she, like all the other employees of Greyhound, didnât know what customer service was and refused to help me. She just transferred me back to the voice message system. I called back and asked her to connect with me a live person, I didnât care whom, but someone who could help me. I finally reached Mrs. Jimmerson in the Executive Offices. Mrs. Jimmerson was reluctant to provide me with her name. I gave her my customer ID number, she looked it up and said that my backpack had arrived in Orlando on May 15th (thatâs one whole day after I had arrived and it arrived after I would have caught my flight, the same flight I had to cancel because Greyhound lost my backpack.). I informed her that there was no legitimate reason that my backpack should have been taken off of the bus that I was traveling upon and that my luggage should always be on the same bus I was on. She then stated that it was Greyhoundâs policy not to consider luggage lost for 24 to 48 hours after it was reported missing. According to the official Greyhound Package department after they receive a complaint they have 30 days to send you a letter in the mail with your Customer ID number before you would be allowed to contact Greyhound, and I informed Mrs. Jimmerson that that time frame was unacceptable. She said that she would have my bag put on the next bus to Shreveport, but that they would not deliver it to the address where I was waiting. I requested a refund of the two tickets and she told me that Greyhound would not refund for lost baggage. I informed her that if Greyhound was responsible for me not being able to take my 7 month backpacking trip then they were responsible for refunding the ticket prices.
Thus, after several days of calling the Shreveport bus station my backpack arrived today, Thursday, May 22, 2008. Upon my arrival at the Shreveport bus station I didnât find anyone at the ticket counter. I called out for someone and Dorothy peeked her head around a door and said that I would have to wait 30 minutes because she was on her lunch break. I told her that was unacceptable, especially after everything else I had been through with Greyhound. I could see my backpack sitting just past the counter. I walked around the building looking for a door to go get my backpack, but they were all locked. I returned to the ticket counter and told Dorothy that I supposed I would have to crawl over the counter to get my backpack, and she said she would call the police and have me arrested, I told her to go ahead that I was sure that the media would just love to hear all of this horrible tale, which she was now making worse by refusing to provide any level of service. Angrily she approached the counter and took my baggage claim ticket (DM869597), returned through a side door and threw my backpack on the floor some ways away from where I was standing and then disappeared again. I checked the backpack to make sure everything was still in it and left.
To date I am out the following funds because of Greyhoundâs baggage policies, the fact that they lost my backpack, and were responsible for me not being able to make my flight connections:
First Bus Ticket: $68.00
Second Bus Ticket: $168.00
Airline Ticket: $420.00 (non-refundable)
Change of Airline Ticket: $75.00
It seems that any company that isnât capable of responsibly handling peopleâs baggage, and from my research there are many such stories, then they shouldnât be allowed to operate. It is time that Greyhound was held accountable for the number of peopleâs lives they have hurt because of their corporate policies.
Therefore I hope you will consider assisting me in a Call to Action against Greyhound. You can read more on the website Iâve created to bring together all of the people affected by Greyhound. Part of the website is to provide a comprehensive listing of other bus services that people can take so no one ever has to take a Greyhound bus again. Either we get Greyhound to change their policies or we run them out of business.
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Anonymous on 05/23/2008:
Very well written post and complaint. I must note, somewhat wryly, that the poster had all of these misadventures within CONUS...I shudder to imagine what would have happened in South America! OTOH...other countries have far superior bus services. Hope the poster tries again for this adventure.
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Unorganized Rude Attendants and Rude Disrespectful Bus Drivers
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MONTGOMERY, ALABAMA -- On April 5,2012,I was on my way from Pensacola, Florida to Nashville, Tennessee. I arrived at the Pensacola bus station at 10 P.M. to purchase a ticket that was supposed to be $112.00, but ended up paying $133.00 because it was Easter. I reminded the bus attendant Easter wasn't till Sunday. I arrived at the Montgomery, Alabama bus station at 3:30am to wait for my bus going to Birmingham at 5am. I watched the rude attendant sell about 8 or 9 tickets for the same bus I was waiting for. We all lined up to board the bus, and when it came to the last 8 people, which I was one of, the bus driver says, my bus is full and I can't take anymore passengers. I said what the [snip] are the rest of us to do? His response was that's not his problem.
I was very upset, the attendant should not have sold any seats to that bus because it was already full. She rudely told me I would have to wait for the 10:15 bus or I could take a bus at 7:50 A.M. to Atlanta and then back to Nashville, a 5 hour delay in my trip. She then went on to say I needed to hurry up and decide which trip I was taking because she didn't have all day and she was getting off at 6.
I then expressed how upset I was about the un-organization and the delay in my trip, and she said if I didn't watch my mouth, I would not be going on a Greyhound bus period. I do not appreciate being talked to like I'm a nobody, nor threatened when the mistake was her fault to begin with.
No one apologized or tried to accommodate the passengers left behind. I will never travel Greyhound again. When I did get on the bus to Atlanta, that bus driver was also rude, nasty, a real [snip], and very unprofessional. He talked to all passengers like we were dogs.
Hey Greyhound, are you running a bus line to accommodate customers or your rude [snip] employees. Never again. I am not a racial person and I expect the same respect from black people.
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trmn8r on 04/06/2012:
I'm not sure this has anything to do with race. Greyhound is first come, first served. It is very possible the CSR's don't know how full a bus is going to be.
That said, travelling Greyhound is a sobering experience under the best circumstances.
Skye on 04/07/2012:
You can fill out an on line complaint directly to Greyhound at:
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Greyhound is unfair to solving a problem they made.
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DALLAS, TEXAS -- Greyhound services are unfair. I paid them $168.48 for myself and 2 children to ride from Marietta, Ga to Birmingham, Al about a $ 14.00 ride the bus came late, when I arrived to Atlanta's station at 1:15am instead of 11:45am the bus to Birmingham Al had already left. The cashier told me the next bus will arrive at 7:00pm. I asked for my money back because I'm diabetic and couldn't stay at a station for that long with also my children and luggage, she told me that I will need to write Greyhound explaining why I didn't ride the rest of the way, so I had to pay my uncle to come get me and take me home. When I get back called the number they told me to send them a copy of my tickets. Months went by and they sent me a voucher to ride Greyhound good for rest of year, I called and told them I want my money back cause I now have a car and have no use for Greyhound, waited months and they sent me a letter saying, Thank you for expressing your concerns we will not be able to honor your request, I called them and asked why, his voice changed and disorderly, he say well we don't give refunds then changed it around and say that ticket was nonrefundable, and I say if the tickets were nonrefundable, then I say you wouldn't have sent me this voucher free for the rest of the year, I also asked to speak with Ms. Perez, and he hurriedly tried to get me off the phone and was saying there is no Ms. Perez that I could speak to and, but her name is signed at the bottom of the letter. He basically said they couldn't do anything for me. EVEN IF I CANNOT GET MY MONEY BACK THAT I AM OWED ITS THE PRINCIPLE OF RUNNING YOUR BUSINESS IN THE CORRECT MANNER BECAUSE TIS IS GREYHOUNDS OWN FAULT. If you could do anything to help me bring justice to this situation I would be most obliged, Thank you
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Starlord on 01/10/2012:
One time, We rode Greyhound from Casa Grande, AZ to Richmonde, IN, and it was a carnival of errors. First off, the person in Casa Grande messed up the tickets, and we had to get the proper tickets in Phoenix. It was an uncomfortable ride, and we got taken off the bus because the driver had come to the end of her allowable hours, so we had to stand in the rain until another driver arrived. Then, for some reason, we got let off outside Richmond on the freeway, because the driver mumbled something about another Richmnod route pulled into town, but his route didn't. We had to schelp our luggage in the rain to a phone booth and call our relatives to come and get us. the ride back was almost as bad. Greyhound has gone to hell since I was a kid, and Trailways seems to have bought the farm.
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I am blind in my left eye, my left hand is damaged to the point that it does not work properly. I am also going deaf. I did not hear the driver say to remove ticket from envelope. When I went to the door to get on the bus, the driver was very rude about me not having my ticket out of the envelope and the man asked me if I could not hear, sarcastically. It took me about 30 second or so to get the ticket out of the envelope due to my left hand. He told me "see this is why you were supposed to have ticket out of envelope. You are holding up all the people behind you because you were too lazy to take out the ticket." I tried to explain to him that I am going deaf and he just said "whatever". On the way to my destination, he stopped 2 times and it was an express. Sometime during the trip he called the bus depot that we were supposed to go to and told the that they had no one going to Waco. The guy at the counter let the bus go because of the call. The driver had read the ticket in Fort Worth and knew I was going to Waco. When I arrived at Waco, the bus had already left due to his phone call. I was stranded in Waco for 15 hours and I only had to go 30 miles before I reached my destination. I believe the driver did it maliciously because I could not hear him about the envelope. When I approached the counter at the bus depot, I talked to the guy behind the counter. The bus driver was behind him. He took my ticket, gave a little smirk and threw the ticket at me. I did not appreciate the way I was treated and if I can find another bus line to travel by, I will use them. I believe that if you are going to deal with public in a professional state, you should be courteous at all times and not maliciously cause problems for the consumer.
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Kris10 on 09/26/2011:
I'm sure a disability advocacy group would love to hear about this. Do what with it? I don't know, but I'm sure they'd do something.
Slimjim on 09/26/2011:
Well I would get on their website and make sure I contacted them over this.
trmn8r on 09/26/2011:
I'm sorry this happened to you. Traveling by Greyhound is at best a difficult experience, but you were treated poorly by what appears to be a jaded and miserable driver.
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I Thought I Was Going To Die
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I was on the Grey Hound going to Charslton SC and we had to make our first stop at Virginia and our bus number was 6437. The driver name is Diana and she did not know where she was going straight out of Grey Hound port. The first thing she did at 6:09pm was ask the customers how do she get to the i95. We thought she was joking but she was not. At that moment we all pulled out our cell phones for gps then a older man came from the back to help her. At 7:19 she pulled over to talk to her boss and smoke a cigarette then she walked away from the bus for 2mins and when she returned at 8:23 she drifted off the road and one min later she almost hit a car then at 8:39 she almost hit another car at 8:50 she drifted off the road again. She was trying to find the Grey Hound rest stop. We asked her to just stop at any rest stop, she said Grey Hound is not allowed to stop anywhere they want like in Louisiana they can not stop there. At 8:55 she said she needs her meds at 9:01 she made the wrong turn going back towards the Delaware bridge and then she pulled in to a shopping center to turn around. She was yelling people, was smoking on the bus with babys on the bus, people was yelling going crazy out of fear for there safety. 9:15 she almost side swiped another car then at 9:17 she was yelling damn damn these people act like children. She said she used to drive a school bus for 10 years. We pulled up at a rest stop and we saw another Grey Hound driver who said he was going to lead us to our stop. We asked him can we board his bus he had a lot of empty seats, he said no, we told him we was afraid and he said every thing is going to be OK and we need to stay on our bus. The number to his bus was 6577. I was in fear for my life and I've been calling Grey Hound all day. Was put on hold for 2 hours and they hung up the phone on me I can not believe this is going on with all the crashes and things that has been going on in the city and around the world I trusted Grey Hound and this is what was going on!!!!!!!!!!!
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trmn8r on 09/06/2011:
With the exception of the smoking, I had a very similar experience on Greyhound. Driver had no idea where he was going, asked a passenger for directions, came close to going off a curve in the pouring rain.
And I used them again AFTER that! Desperate times call for desperate measures.
Anonymous on 09/06/2011:
How do you know the exact times that all this happened? Were you writing it all down?
Skye on 09/06/2011:
What a terrible ordeal. Since they hung up on you, try contacting them, by filling out the on line form.
Here is the link:
Anonymous on 09/06/2011:
I once had a Greyhound bus driver ask how to navigate around Pittsburgh. I eventually made it in one piece to New Mexico.
Alain on 09/06/2011:
You might also go to http://www.issues.cc/complaints/us-department-of-transportation/department-of-transportation-bust-those-buses
Mrs. V on 09/06/2011:
If this ever happens again, (I hope not!) and you have a phone, call 911 (or the equivalent) and tell the police. They will make the driver pull over and tell Greyhound to send a new driver.
madconsumer on 09/06/2011:
OMG!! this sounds horrible. glad you made it in one piece and alive.
try contacting greyhound via their website, this should be investigated.
raven2010 on 09/06/2011:
ACK!!!! Very scary.
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Don't leave the driving to Greyhound!
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My mom went to the Greyhound Bus Station in Anoka, MN to buy me (her 15 year old daughter) two 1 way tickets. The first ticket was from Minneapolis, MN leaving at 1:00 p.m. and arriving in Odem, TX at 9:40 p.m. the next night, which had one transfer. The second ticket was from Corpus Christi, TX to Minneapolis, MN with 3 transfers.
I have never rode on a bus for that length of time before and I was very excited after hearing the news, that my mom had bought me these tickets. I actually had no idea what was ahead in this VERY long journey.
We arrived at the Minneapolis Greyhound Bus Station and I got in line to board my bus. By the time the bus actually left the station, it was about a half hour late. No big deal really, at least I was on my way. We got to Des Moines, IA, about 45 minutes late. Our 45 minute stop was turned into a 15 minute stop so the bus driver could catch up on his time. We started off again and were about half way to Dallas when we stopped in this parking lot, which was not a stop on the schedule even. The bus driver let this poor little girl come on the bus and try to sell us all food and drinks. Once she went up and down the bus a few times she realized that no one was going to buy her stuff so she got off. Then a woman came on the bus and talked to the bus driver for a little bit and the bus driver finally told her that we have got to get going so she got off and we left. This was very rude since we were already behind schedule but why should he care? He is just driving us to Dallas anyway. So we finally arrived in Dallas, TX about 1 hour and 45 minutes late. I had my only transfer there and I was not to worried, I thought it was going to be the same as it was in Minneapolis. I got off the bus and asked the bus driver where I go to pick up my luggage. He told me that they would take care of it and not to worry. I insisted that I needed my luggage and asked him if he was sure about this. He reassured me that my luggage would be transferred to my next bus and to hurry and get in the station because our bus was behind schedule. I went inside the station and looked around for my line. I did not see anyone who could help me decide which line to get in, so I decided for myself. I got into the line that I believed was mine. I looked around and seen that everyone else had their luggage with them, and there I was, a confused 15 year old girl with one carry on bag. My mom called and asked me if I had my luggage with me and if I was in the right line. I told her what the bus driver said and she told me that he was wrong and to get out of line and ask someone for help. I told her that I didnt want to get out of line because there was so many people behind me and I didnt want to be the one sitting on the floor of the bus like the people who had to do so on my way to Dallas.
Eventually I got out of line and went up to the service desk. Of course, all the employees were standing in the back office talking and it was so loud in the station, they couldnt hear me asking for help. Finally, a lady came out of the office and asked me what I needed. I showed her my tickets and she said, Get in line, you are going to miss your bus. Get off that cell phone and pay attention. (My mom was on the cell phone with me and she could hear everything that this rude lady was saying) I asked her what line am I supposed to go in and she took my tickets and said, Where is Odem? I dont even know where that place is. I said, It is down by Corpus Christi. She printed out new tickets and said, Hurry get in your line now. I asked her about my bags and she said, NO YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO GET YOUR BAGS OFF THE BUS!!! Hurry up and follow me. I replied to this comment by saying excuse u but you are supposed to be helping me, not making this even harder. I was fed up with this womans rude attitude towards me and I believe that I had a very good reason to act the way that I did. At this point I was crying because I was about 3 hours late, I had no bags, no bus, nowhere to go, and a rude employee telling me what to do. You have to remember that I was a 15 year old girl traveling by myself, lost in an unfamiliar place, and to top it all off, I was being yelled at by this lady. I followed her as she went outside and got my bags from the lost and found area. She told me to be quiet and to quit my crying. We came back inside and she put new tags on my luggage. She brought me back outside and put me right on the bus. The bus driver complained a little bit about me getting on before scheduled time. HELLO, we were about 3 hours behind schedule anyway, so whats the difference?
So finally we left Dallas and arrived in Houston. We caught up on time and we were about an hour late. I had a 45 minute delay and was ready for a little rest. I asked the bus driver if it was okay if I left my carry on bags on the bus since I would be getting back on in 45 minutes. He said that would be okay. They took all of our luggage off the bus and I asked them why they were doing that and the man told me not to worry about it and to go back inside. We were all standing inside waiting for them to reload the bus, when the bus left without us! I ran out there and told him that my carry on bags were on there and he told me that the bus would be back in about 15 minutes. He had to go get gas. Okay, so the bus got back and we all got on the bus. The bus wouldnt turn on so we all got off the bus again. A new bus came and we got on that one. Finally, we left the station and about 30 minutes out, the bus driver said that the speedometer wasnt working so we had to go back to get on a new bus. We went all the way back to Houston and got on another bus. We were off again and we reached Wharton, TX when we stopped at a red light. The light turned green but we werent moving, the bus broke down. So we were stuck on the side of the rode. Here I was, a little girl, stranded on a bus at 9:00 p.m., in the dark, all by myself. Thats not very safe at all. We sat there for a good 2 hours before the bus driver announced, Go eat if you want, we arent going anywhere for a long time. He didnt speak very good English, at least, not to me. I was not about to get off that bus for any reason unless we got a new bus, so I sat there the whole time. My cell phone was just about dead, which shouldnt have been a problem because at this time I should have already been to my destination. So I was sitting there, with no one to talk to, all by myself. My sisters husband eventually called the bus driver and was talking to him. The bus driver announced that there would be a new bus coming to pick us up in about an hour.
Finally the new bus came, we got our luggage on the bus and we were on our way again. I reached my destination about 4 hours late. I was not ready to go on my long journey back, considering that I had 3 transfers and my transfer on the way there was bad enough. My mom and I believed that it was to unsafe for me to ride the Greyhound back so they had to purchase me a plane ticket. We called the Greyhound Refund Service number and asked if we could get a refund. They told us no because it was a ticket bought in advance. I dont care if I bought it yesterday or a year ago, I never used the ticket and that was their fault so I should be able to get a refund. I still sent in the ticket with a letter of complaint, hopefully, I will get a response and a refund but if not, I will proceed further in this because I was treated unfair and do not think that is right.
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tander on 07/11/2004:
I'm sorry your trip was so terrible. I've called greyhound on numerous occasions for different route information, you never get anyone on there that is kind or nice, always so rude, they have poor customer service skills.
Roger&Out on 07/11/2004:
I would really raise cane with Greyhound regarding the stop in the parking lot. Sounds like a big time security issue.
Anonymous on 07/13/2004:
well...I don't think that I would take any advice from you anyway because by the looks of it...not to many people on this sight are very fond of u and also...I actually don't really care who u would permit on a bus!!
transp on 07/26/2004:
While there were a few bad things on this journey, not all the criticism should be heaped on Greyhound Lines. Most of the journey--from Minneapolis, Minn. to Ardmore, Okl.--was NOT on Greyhound Lines. Rather, this route is operated by Jefferson Lines, a completely independent company. Each company should be accountable for its own service.
biggsexxy on 06/25/2010:
we also got screwed by grayhound with there broken down buses and being late and my 19 year old daughter and her new baby got left in a town where they new no one because grayhound messed up her ticket after breaking down and rerouting her and the will not acknowlege there going down hill grayhound will be in a picketing soon for poor service standoff
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MUHLENBERG COUNTY, Ky. (7/3/14) — Have you ever had a horrible day at work so horrible to the point that you don't want to again answer your office phone?
Well, that's how Jon McCay, Academic Instructor felt at the end of one long day at the Muhlenberg Job Corps Center. Hesitantly, he answered his phone to find former student, Micka Blair, on the other end of the line.
Micka was well known amongst the staff because he was an outstanding student and also served as the president of the Student Government Association. Micka was a student of the Muhlenberg Job Corps from September 2009 until April 2011. He successfully completed the Medical Office Support and Pharmacy Technology trades. Micka is doing very well for himself working as Lead Tech and Inventory Specialist for CVS Pharmacy. He mentioned when the store has a good profit, so does he.
Micka stated, "I would not be where I am today without the help of my Pharmacy Tech Instructor, Mark Shepherd. He taught us how to properly fill out pharmacy applications. One of those applications landed me this CVS job. When I went to the job interview and handed him a folder full of awards and accomplishments from Job Corps, he only asked one question: When can you start?"
Micka said he thinks about Job Corps every day and that his paychecks are due to all his hard work and the caring staff. He occasionally runs into people he met at Job Corps and is surprised to see they are only working fast food instead of finding jobs they trained for. Micka closed his conversation with Mr. McCay with these words for current and future students, "keep an open mind, it's okay that Kentucky isn't like home. You came to get away from the distractions at home so you could focus on obtaining trade credentials. You hung out with friends at home, did that work for you in getting a job or job training?"
The Center will definitely stay in contact with Micka in hopes of him visiting the center to be a future guest speaker at graduation.And for Mr. McCay, he was glad he did answer that phone call, because it turned around his day to know the center made a positive impact on this former student.
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Penny Sue Pritzker is a Wonder Woman of sorts — an heiress, a successful serial entrepreneur, an Ironman athlete, an education-focused philanthropist and a tough businesswoman who throws herself into every detail of her work, her friends and longtime colleagues say.
Pritzker, who turned 54 on Thursday, also is a powerful networker who, for Barack Obama's first White House bid, leveraged the Internet to raise the most money in presidential campaign history. Without her, insiders say, Obama would not have been elected president.
Forbes magazine ranks Pritzker as No. 277 among U.S. billionaires, with her wealth estimated at $1.85 billion. In Chicago, she and her husband, Dr. Bryan Traubert, live on property described as taking up five city lots in the Lincoln Park neighborhood.
Pritzker has an equally outsized reputation as a charitable giver, most notably to improve education and public school programs for children in poor neighborhoods.
Yet, labor leaders vilify the heiress to the Pritzker family's Hyatt hotel fortune as heartless toward everyday workers. The Hyatt chain has engaged in a four-year contract battle with Unite Here, the union representing hotel maids, bellmen, bartenders, kitchen workers and room cleaners.
When Pritzker resigned with no explanation from the Chicago Board of Education in March, Chicago Teachers Union President Karen Lewis described her as "an anti-worker, anti-labor kind of boss . . . [who] worked to close schools."
Supporters say Pritzker has expanded her education initiatives by helping the poor with job training. When Pritzker served as chair of Obama's Economic Recovery Advisory Board, she reached out to union leaders in negotiations that led to Skills for America's Future, a program to connect business and union leaders with community colleges to create job-training programs. Pritzker also led Chicago's job-training initiative.
Austan Goolsbee, former chairman of Obama's Council of Economic Advisors, said Pritzker was the perfect person to "get at the nexus of what business needed for training and matching it up with the education system."
"Her personality type is kind of an 'A-plus' listener when it comes to policy," he said.
Her appointment as commerce secretary, a move first reported by Sun-Times columnist Michael Sneed, would test her experiences in entrepreneurship, business leadership, politics and intellectual debate, particularly as Obama holds high hopes for a Trans-Pacific Partnership that would give America free trade with three-fifths of the world's economy.
Former Commerce Secretary William Daley said successful commerce secretaries have deep political experience and independent relationships with the presidents they serve.
"She could be a big help to the president," Daley said, noting Pritzker's "enormous experience" in the business world, knowledge of the "political game" and attendance at world economic forums.
"She is a known quantity in many business capitals," Daley said. "She is very professional, very low-key."
Pritzker carries the skills she built during Obama's first run, and she is powerful enough to overcome the idea that her nomination results from her political work, others say.
David Jacobson, U.S. ambassador to Canada who served as deputy national finance chairman in Obama's first campaign when Pritzker was finance chairman, said she proved her political mettle when she successfully brought Hillary Clinton's workers into the Obama organization.
"There were some hard feelings, some disappointment, but by the time the general election came, it was one team," Jacobson said. "She took a group of mostly volunteers — people who raised money, all important people and some with big egos — and molded them into a team."
Julianna Smoot, Obama's 2012 deputy campaign manager and 2008 campaign finance director, who worked closely with Pritzker, said she isn't seen as a political hack.
"She is a celebrity in her own right," Smoot said, adding that potential donors wanted to meet her.
Pritzker's decision to be Obama's national finance chair in 2008 was "about as bold a move as I've seen anybody make" because Hillary Clinton was ahead in the polls and Obama was relatively unknown, said Jim Reynolds, chairman and CEO of Chicago investment bank Loop Capital Markets. Reynolds also worked on Obama's first presidential campaign.
"The president was praying and hoping she would say yes because he didn't know many 'big' people," Reynolds said. "When she decided to take on that challenge, we were all surprised. It was an uphill battle."
After Obama generated grass-roots enthusiasm in Iowa in 2008, Reynolds said Pritzker "galvanized, rallied and energized everyone on that finance committee."
Pritzker took a less visible role in Obama's re-election campaign after some say she took the slings and arrows for Obama's positions perceived to be unfriendly toward Israel (Pritzker is Jewish) and businesses. The official explanation was that Pritzker, who served as national co-chair of Obama for America 2012 and was one of his top donation "bundlers," was busy setting up three new companies and helping restructure the Pritzker family's $15 billion fortune after a divisive family feud.
Though Pritzker is seen as a strong businesswoman, she is associated with a savings and loan scandal at Superior Bank. She served as chairman of the Hinsdale-based bank, half-owned by the Pritkzer family, from 1991 to 1994 and sat on the board of the bank's holding company when Superior collapsed in early 2001 with half a billion dollars in subprime loan defaults and improper accounting that had overstated the thrift's assets.
The Pritzkers agreed to pay the FDIC $100 million upfront and an additional $360 million over 15 years to help defray the regulator's costs. The agreement received renewed criticism when a Pritzker-owned company got $31.5 million from the FDIC settlement with the bank's accountant, Ernst & Young. The FDIC brought no charges against the bank's owners, and the FDIC and uninsured depositors recovered 81 percent of their losses.
Pritzker fought for her role in the family businesses. As a teenager, she asked her grandfather, A.N. Pritzker, why he talked only with the boys in the family about business.
He replied that he was born in 1896 and "how am I supposed to know women are interested in business?" He taught her accounting basics, which she credited with cementing her desire to work in business. She earned an economics degree from Harvard University and MBA and law degrees from Stanford.
Pritzker and brothers J.B., 48, the Chicago tech startup investor, and Anthony, 52, were raised by their mother after their father, Hyatt hotels co-founder Donald N. Pritzker, died of a heart attack at age 39 in 1972. She was 13.
Penny considered her uncle Jay Pritkzer her mentor.
After graduate school, she started working in the Hyatt organization as a financial analyst.
In 1987, she wanted to branch out and founded Classic Residence by Hyatt, now called Vi. Pritzker exited as Vi's chairman in 2011 after the Pritzker family sold nine of 19 high-end senior living communities for $481 million. In addition, she:
◆ Created Pritzker Realty Group in 1991 and grew it to a market capitalization of more than $5 billion in land development, including The Hyatt Center, and in industrial properties, retail shopping centers and other non-hotel assets.
◆ Co-founded the Parking Spot in 1998.
◆ Served as chairman of TransUnion from 2005 to 2012, engineering its sale for $3 billion.
◆ Co-founded in 2010, with CEO Deborah Harmon, Artemis Real Estate Partners, which manages two commercial real estate funds.
◆ Founded PSP Capital Partners in 2011 to invest in small businesses with high-growth prospects.
Pritzker now serves as chairman of Artemis Real Estate Partners; chairman and CEO of PSP Capital Partners, and as CEO of Pritzker Realty Group.
Her spokeswoman declined to say whether she would sell assets or set up trusts for her assets to avoid perceived conflicts of interest if she were to serve as commerce secretary. She would be required to leave her corporate jobs if she won Senate confirmation and took the secretary's post.
Pritzker's friends see her as well-rounded and ready for the challenge.
She "is a great mother, a great person to the core" and "a very complete person you would admire for her fortitude, her capabilities and what she has accomplished," said Byron Trott, founder and CEO of Chicago merchant bank BDT Capital Partners, who has known Pritzker for 15 years. "She does not wear wealth on her sleeve."
Goolsbee said Pritzker and her husband host families every weekend at modern-day "salons" at their summer home near Sawyer, Mich. There, they discuss weighty issues with artists, economists and a variety of intellectuals while treating guests to biking, kayaking, tennis, hiking and running.
"The place is almost magical," Goolsbee said. "It is such an idyllic setting. She gathers really diverse people."
Reynolds recalled how Pritzker let her son travel unescorted as a teenager on a basketball team with kids who slept three to a room during their road trips.
Reynolds' son played on the team with Pritzker's son.
"She went out of her way to make sure [her son] . . . experienced what all the other kids experienced — no limo, no bodyguards, no delivered food," Reynolds said.
Pritkzer looked no different from any other parent at the games, he said, adding: "She had no airs, no pretenses."


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