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Overrated Hotels and shady 'Top Secret' hotel program
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I thought I'd check out Hotels with Travelocity (whom I use for flights often) for my trip to Dallas. I compared other sites, to find that Travelocity is much to generous with their star ratings for hotels. What some people have commented on this site, is apparently not isolated.
I decided that a 4 star hotel was a safe bet, and used their 'Top Secret" hotels feature, which allows you to choose only the star level for a secret hotel, only to be revealed after you pay and confirm (nonrefundable).
I checked into my "4 star" hotel, to find it barely a "3 star". I was so upset I called Travelocity. (mistake #1) I got some girl named "Lisa" who didn't speak very clear English, and couldn't deviate much from the script she was provided with. Got nowhere, asked the hotel front desk what their star rating was, they informed me that they were awarded a 2 diamond rating last year by AAA, and 3 stars by mobil (now forbes travel), which are both lower than Travelocity's rating.
I also discovered after talking with other guests, that hotels keep certain rooms available for these 'Top Secret' bookings, which appear to be lower in quality than that of someone who pays full price. Seems like fraud to me. Of the 3 guests I spoke with, 3 had bought on discount sites like Priceline or Hotwire, and were on the same floor as me, and also mentioned their dissatisfaction with the room quality. The 3rd, was a business traveler who paid "rack rate" or full price, and was certain the room-type was the same as ours, but commented on additional features in the room, like a fridge, an mp3 radio and what he believed to be a newly decorated room.
At any rate, I'm convinced that many hotels are putting these "Top Secret" rate guests in their lower quality rooms, which defeats the purpose.
Travelocity has its own hotel rating system, which is independent of the official AAA or Mobil (Forbes) hotel ratings which evaluate many factors when assigning star ratings. Check other sites, compare prices, and read reviews.... That's the best way to avoid "Top Secret" surprises when traveling with Travelocity
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"Travelocity Top Secret Hotels" Disaster
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I'll try to make this as brief and informative as possible. I am a longtime Travelocity customer (as long as I can remember/as long as they have been in business). I have always been pleased with their efforts to create useful tools for me to find affordable flights/hotels. As a result they have been an ongoing staple both in my personal, and my extended family/friends, travel planning. I very much liked Travelocity before this latest debaucle. After my experience I am no longer going to use Travelocity or their partner services as they have clearly demostrated (there is zero drama in this statement) they are not in fact committed to: 1. Hassle-Free Travel Deals, 2. Looking out for you before and during your trip. Everything about your booking will be right, or they'll work with their partners to make it right.
Here's what happened... I typically use Hotwire (and other similar services) to book hotels as they typically are cheaper than other services out their. Certainly you can't pick the exact hotel but Hotwire and others provide tools for you so that where and what you end up with isn't shocking or surprising. An example on Hotwire is that they give you a map that outlines which area of a city they will find you a hotel in (and of course they let you know the star rating, etc... etc...). These services save me a great amount of time, and especially money. Kudos.
Recently I had to book my typical monthly trip to Denver, CO. for business. When the other services I typically use were not turning up any impressive deals I did a little searching and discovered Travelocity's "Top Secret Hotels". Without understanding the technical differences between this service and the others I have used it appeared to work very similarly to the others (Hotwire, etc...). Pick a destination, select an area, sort by price/star rating, book the one you like and then you find out the exact hotel and you are off to the races. I was impressed by the number of specific options they had listed in the filtering section of the website for "areas" in Denver. Trust point +1. Previously my experiences with Travelocity were smooth and affordable. Trust point +2.
Okay, so I find the list of hotels in "Downtown Denver", sort by rating and found one that was within my budget. Great (more plus points for Travelocity). One thing that stuck out in the back of my mind was that Travelocity did not provide any specifics about the area of Denver that THEY consider to be "Downtown Denver" but with other sites like Hotwire they use the term "Greater Downtown Denver" and that has always been acceptable in terms of distance. (Here's one to look at if your curious: http://net/. educause. edu/section_params/conf/E04/images/map. pdf - roughly a mile or so around downtown). The concern though was quickly dismissed because of my trust points and because I had never had any issues with Travelocity. I did read before I purchased the hotel though that "Top Secret Hotels" reservations were non-rufundable/non-changeable. I was OK with this and booked the hotel (figuring if something was awry that was there fault, bad location/wrong city/whatever that they would fix it regardless).
Hotel booked, great. I found out right away the name and location of the hotel they had booked me with. It was turned out to be HOLIDAY INN SELECT DENVER-CHERRY CREEK (455 South Colorado Boulevard, Denver, CO 80246). Now for anyone that knows the city of Denver that hotel is not in an area considered to be downtown... that doesn't even fit into Hotwire's "Greater Downtown Denver" map. It's nearly 4.5 miles away from the city center! At this point I jumped on the phone to figure out what my options were. I scoured the site one more time to find absolutely zero information that let's you know how they come up with these boundaries/what to expect in terms of variations in proximity. Surely I should have not used the service knowing ahead of time this might be an issue but like I mentioned I trusted Travelocity and there services and assumed they would work it out because obviously that hotel was nowhere near "Downtown Denver". Also, to be clear why this distinction is important, when you stay in downtown you have a free shuttle that transports you up and down the downtown area called the "Free Mall Ride". Tons of business folks downtown rely on this to not have to drive to work (among other options like biking, rail and buses). So this is a business trip and I can't charge them for transportation costs unnecessarily (not to mention the inconvenience) so... back to the phone call.
This part I will shorten up for time sake. The first support person I talked to said they could do nothing for me. This took somewhere around 15-20 mins. (I will not exaggerate ANY of the times here so you get the real feel for how bad this was) I asked to speak to someone above them if they could help me. I was transferred to their supervisor. Their response was the same and took more like 20-25 mins. going back and forth asking questions and trying to figure out how to change this. (this was an eight day reservation that cost nearly 800/850 USD so it was worth it) Finally I asked to talk with someone above them as well that might have more ability to change things/help me out. All the while being extremely patient and courteous to increase the chances that someone would actually help me out. Finally after holding for 10 mins. or so I was able to speak to the "Manager". This guy was super nice and apologetic... he really seemed to want ot help. Great, thank goodness. After nearly an hour, that's right 1 hour, of calling the hotel, talking to support techs among other things he had offered me a 250 USD travel voucher and had promised me that he had talked with the hotel and arranged a free shuttle to downtown Denver for the length of my stay. I felt very relieved as it seemed from the outset this was not going to go well for me. Just as a precaution I called the hotel to confirm the transportation arrangements. They said they had a shuttle but that it only went within a 3 mile radius of the hotel. Crap. I called the number back that the "Manager" had left me and got a low level support person that indicated I would have to go back through the process of low level support person, supervisor and then the Manager... if they could find the same one. I hung up the phone and started to realize that he had provided that option to get me off the phone basically. He previously mentioned the name of the person at the hotel he had spoken with so I called back the hotel and asked to speak with her (on the hunch that he was being dis-honest). When she answered the phone I asked if she had spoken with him and she acknowledged that she had. I asked if the Manager had confirmed with her a free shuttle and she said yes but she mentioned that instead of helping to negotiate a way for me to get into a hotel closer to downtown he had focused on how to keep me there but find transportation. She made it clear to me that the shuttle doesn't go downtown and that he knew this. Wow.
The travel voucher did not cover cab rides to downtown (but got close... it's roughly 36 USD per day to get back and forth from the hotel to downtown - 36 x 8 days = 288 - I wasn't going to take the bus) so I temporarily gave up and said to myself that I would pay the extra 33 USD to not have to call support again.
A few days past and I got to my hotel. Good hotel, decent people... I was fine. On a hunch I pulled up my computer and searched around for other people having similar issues with Travelocity's "Top Secret Hotels" program. (the support people I spoke with earlier had indicated that my issue was isolated and rarely happened) Turns out this happens to a lot of folks that use their service... shocking. Now I was very upset. I made up my mind that they were not going to make my business trip a pain in the butt and called them back to have them put me into a downtown hotel at any expense.
Needless to say after 4 more hours total over the next 3 days I got nowhere. (but I was very determined) Spoke with someone in U.S. support that said they would run something called a "Footprint Search" which basically would check and verify that I had selected "Downtown Denver". If that in fact was the case they would refund the un-used portion of my trip and transfer me to a downtown hotel. Perfect. I had to wait 24-48 hours for this to happen though. After that period had passed (all the while everyone agreeing that this hotel was not in "Downtown Denver") they said they needed more time and said 48-72 more hours as they were having "technical issues" running the "Footprint Search". Now I understood that what was most likely happening is that they were pushing it off so that I would use up my stay and there would not be anything else to do. Which ended up being the case. I am now 4 weeks (literally) and I still get a call every 3 days from them to let me know they are still looking into it and they will call back in 72 hours.
The cab rides totaled a little over 200 USD so that was good news. But I still had the hassle of cabbing it and spent nearly 7 hours total in phone calls over a period of a week and a half. You tell me if they were providing: 1. Hassle-Free Travel Deals, 2. Looking out for you before and during your trip. Everything about your booking will be right, or they'll work with their partners to make it right. I highly recommend you not use this service "Top Secret Hotels" and out of principle not to use Travelocity's services period. They clearly are not concerned with you having a great experience, not to mention being fare to their customers. I hope someone is helped by this review.
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Travelocity Joel on 07/14/2011:
Hi there...we're sorry about the trouble you had with your Top Secret booking. Would you please email your Trip ID to firstname.lastname@example.com. We'll do our best to resolve this to your satisfaction. Thanks for your business.
Jade on 07/02/2012:
I am sorry for your bad experience! I have just had one of my own: I have been booking all of my hotels, flights, and cruises exclusively through Travelocity since 2006. The past year, I have used the Top Secret Hotels option a number of times for myself and my family. I use this service because my husband and I are on a tight budget and it really helps stretch or dollars. Until today we have been very happy with the service. Today I booked a 4 night stay at an Atlanta area hotel for $39 a night with Top Secret Hotels. However, upon completing my reservation and being able to view the hotel, I find out that the hotel is not actually $39 a night, but $64 a night because they charge a $25 per day "cleaning" fee! I was extremely upset, and I called Travelocity Customer Service. They informed me that there is a catchall phrase at the bottom of my reservation that says the hotel may charge additional fees. Of course there is, I have seen that notice many times before. However, I have NEVER been charged $100 for my room to be cleaned! The reason people use Top Secret Hotels in the first place is to save money! If I had any idea that my hotel would in actuality be $64, I would not have booked it! I understand that they cannot reveal the name, location, or amenities of a given hotel that is participating in the Top Secret Hotels program. I feel,though, that Travelocity should at least reveal any extra fees that are going to be tacked onto your bill once your reservation is confirmed and non-refundable! I have already, as I said, spoken to Customer Service, who basically said "Sorry, can't help you, you're not getting your money back" in so many words. If this situation cannot be resolved, I will no longer be using Travelocity, and neither will any of my family members. I am the one who told them how great the site is, after all. I will be letting them know of my experiences today.
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Worst Customer Service Ever! Never Use Travelocity!
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I have just returned from one of THE worst stays at a hotel ever after having booked it on the Travelocity website. I chose a "top-secret hotel 3 star hotel in the Disney/Celebration area" for $44.43 p/ night and a listed "resort fee" of $8.00 total for our two night stay. Once my husband and I left the Disney World theme parks at midnight on July 4th we drove about a good 10 miles away from the "Disney/celebration area" where our hotel was supposed to be at and ended up about 5 blocks away from Universal Studios Orlando, which is in another area completely different than the one advertised for our hotel. My husband and I arrived at the hotel at about 12:30am. and the outside appeared to be clean, little did we know what was in store once we went inside.
The lobby was small and the clerk quickly checked us into our room (#102) it was probably a room the size of 10 x 10 ft and it smelled horrible, some kind of mix between must, mold and sweat. I walked into the bathroom and immediately got on the phone with Travelocity customer service to ask if we could get another hotel, this one was dirty, not at all up to the 3 star standards of any website! The person who answered my call placed me on hold and told me to go to the front desk to speak to the clerk to resolve my issue. She was not helpful or sympathetic with me at all!
We went to the front desk and were offered to either return our money (at 1am on a holiday weekend there were not other vacancies in town!) or try out another room in the hotel. We opted for trying out another room and it was bigger than the first, only because it was a handicap accessible room. I will try to be brief, however, there are so many things I could complain about. I am also attaching pictures of the horrible condition of the hotel room starting from the busted open air conditioner vent, the cracked wall plates, mangled electrical cables coming out of an electrical box right next to the bed, the 3 small pillows for the king sized bed, the moldy plastic casing where the emergency evacuation sign should be posted (by law), the rusted shower drain with plug unscrewed, the stained yellowed tub chair for handicap guests, the dust on top of the television, moldy dirty dust balls in bathroom respirator fan plate, stains on the carpet most visible in front of the mini-fridge and the urine stains around the toilet base. All of these pictures were taken by me upon entering the room.
Additionally, in the morning when we left the room, I had placed the do not disturb sign on the door and the maid took it upon herself to walk into our room and disregard the sign! As for the "resort fee" the Travelocity site advised of an $8.00 fee for our 2 night stay and the clerk informed us it was $4.50 + tax p/night! The only amenity available at the hotel was a small murky, dirty pool that you couldn't even seen the bottom of it on the 3 ft deep side on a sunny day! The pool is smaller than the pool in my own home! Lastly, if things weren't bad enough already, we were awakened at 9am on the dot on Friday by a loud weed blower motor roaring right outside our door and blowing gas smoke into our room! This is THE WORST EXPERIENCE EVER BOOKING ON TRAVELOCITY! I am very unhappy with this and hope to hear from someone in regards to this trip! I hope no other guest has to spend a night at that place, especially not under the false pretense of it being a 3 star resort style hotel!
And...I sent them the above email with supporting pics of the disgusting hotel 6 days ago and haven't heard anything from them! They obviously don't care about their customers!
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trmn8r on 07/13/2013:
This is a classic kind of complaint with these third party sites. I wouldn't use any of them.
The minute you allow a third party between you and the provider, you are surrendering your negotiating power when problems arise. Hotel management is right there, Travelocity is in Botswana or Iceland or India.
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Poor Service
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I booked a hotel in the Charleston SC area for one evening 4/3/13. I used Travelocity's "top secret" hotel booking process which requires pre payment, something I normally do not do but decided to give it a try since I've used Travelocity many times. Travelocity's website said I would get a 3 STAR hotel and ended up being the Holiday Inn Mt Pleasant but OK, I was good with that.
When I checked in at the hotel all they had left was smoking rooms which they explained was their "standard" room . I explained to the hotel front desk that I could not stay in a smoking room and asked for another room. They didn't have any other rooms available and they wouldn't refund my money. They said I would have to call Travelocity and this is "how Travelocity gets you"!.
I went ahead and booked another hotel 10 miles outside of the city since it was already midnight. I called Travelocity the next day to explain what happened and their response was we are sorry we can't refund your money. When you sign up for the top secret room you just get whatever the hotel has available.
I would never have booked that hotel room if I thought for one minute I would be put in a smoking room. I can put up with a lot when I stay in a hotel but not that. Travelocity needs to be more transparent with their customers during the booking process about what is considered a "standard room." A smoking room preference isn't the same as a preference of getting 2 doubles or king beds or being on a specific floor. it is a health issue and customers need to know if non smoking is available or not BEFORE they pay. I am extremely disappointed in how Travelocity and Holiday Inn handled this situation. I have used Travelocity for many years but this is a deal breaker and I will never use them again.
If you use Travelocity's "Top Secret Hotel" process then buyer beware! To me it isn't worth the hassle for the "big discount"! I am now out $157.
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Eddie on 07/24/2013:
The hotel assigns the best room they can within your preference given what's left available. All Travelocity will guarantee (And pretty much standard in Hotwire and Priceline) with the pre-pay-get-me-a-room booking is the following: You get a room for the nights you want and the room will sleep at least two. Nothing beyond that is guaranteed. It's based on hotel availability at check-in.
Note: Sometimes, ask if any suites are available for upgrade. Hotels will charge an upgrade fee from their standard (mostly). Also, call the hotel as soon as you book to ask them put you in a non-smoking as soon as you book.
More info on this: Travelocity, Priceline, and Hotwire send some rooms through as a "flow-through" which is basically...you will get a room. But it does NOT book a room type or nonsmoking/smoking for you. Always call ahead when you are unsure of the room type.
Also, given the situation for me, I would have offered any sort of freebie or possible complimentary upgrade if we had a suite available.
Source: Hotel employee.
P.S.S. - I agree that Travelocity should have informed you ahead of time of not being able to guarantee non-smoking. Priceline lists their hotels with a stamp of "non-smoking" if they have no smoking rooms, and does not apply the marker if they do.
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I will never use Travelocity again and will spread the word of suckage until they change their policies
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OK here goes
my friend has been going through a rough time. she losst her house, her boyfriend, among other things. so I bought tickets for the jonas brothers (OK stop laughing) concert and reserved 2 hotel rooms for two nights. afterward the jobros changed the date of the concert.
I called Travelocity to cancel the reservations. they canceled it and advised me that I would not be receiving a refund. I called back trying to get them to just reschedule. although the customer service representative was nice, she told me that even if I had just wanted to change without canceling I would have had to pay for a news room.
so I sent a nasty, pissed off letter to Travelocity.
I just recently lost my job and fell ill. gee I could really use that money to pay for the endoscopy
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Ben There on 08/30/2010:
Travelocity just enforces the rules of the hotel. Why should Travelocity pay both you and the hotel because the Jonas Brothers switched dates? These rules were given to you when you booked.
I highly doubt if you had booked a nonrefundable/no changes room directly that the hotel would have bent the rules because of a concert. The discounted price offered by these hotels is in exchange for no flexibility. Regardless if you show up, they get some money.
Anonymous on 08/30/2010:
Maybe you can inform people to actually understand what they are paying for before they pay for things. they don't refund ever. period. That's why you get cheap rooms. Next time book through the hotel itself. Then you can cancel.
Ben There on 08/30/2010:
Actually Travelocity has lots of refundable hotel rates, just like hotels have lots of nonrefundable rates directly. Even Priceline has pay when you arrive and refundable rates. You just have to read the rules.
Anonymous on 08/30/2010:
I'm afraid the fine prints gets people every time. The only good thing to come out of this--you probably will never make this mistake again. I agree that booking directly is the best policy. If Travelocity has refundable rates, you may do just as well booking with the hotel directly. On refundable rates, most hotels let you cancel within 24 hours (and some the same day). Things happen that are not in our control and cancellations are inevitable at times. Why take chances?
FlShopper on 08/30/2010:
I like the word "suckage". I think I might use it.
Marybird on 08/31/2010:
As the other comments state, this could have been avoided by reading that fine print that the majority of us tend to ignore. Chalk this up to a life lesson, if you want to find anything positive about it.
Just wanted to let everyone know: When I am looking for hotel reservations, I'll go on Travelocity, Orbitz, or Cheap Tickets to find out who has the cheapest rate, then I call the hotel that I want to stay at and ask them to beat that price. They'll normally oblige, unless the dates have a lot of events going on for that area. An advantage to going directly through the hotel is that most hotels also have a same day cancellation policy, where you have until 4 or 6 pm to cancel. With the multi-service shopping sites, the second that you hit "buy now", you're stuck with that booking and won't get any money back unless you've gone with the refundable option, which is obviously a pricier option.
Another tip: Check corporate apartments for one or two night rentals (Google the desired city plus "corporate accommodations"). I used to work for a company on the east coast which provided fully furnished "luxury" apartments and townhomes for people who were going to be staying for 1 month up to 6 months. In order to make more money, we would take guests for as little as one night, and the rates were insanely low- they charged $110 a night for a one bedroom apartment, $129 for a two bedroom, and $149 for a three bedroom townhome in the Philadelphia area. This is an especially great way to go when you are traveling with several people- if there are three couples, rather than spending about $150 per couple, per night, you'll pay around $50 per couple, per night. Since these are full apartments, you also have a full kitchen to cut down on dining out expenses. You may have to push a little bit to get the rate, but believe me, every company wants the business, so you can haggle with them, particularly if you're trying to book a rental within just days... they know that the chances of filling those apartments with longer term renters are very slim, and they figure something is better than nothing.
Lastly, look on vacationrentals.com also to see if there's anything available in your desired area. While these are mostly in typical vacation spots for week-long minimum bookings, you might be able to negotiate a one or two night stay if you're willing to work a little and make some inquiries.
Good luck!
Anonymous on 08/31/2010:
Thanks, marybird, good info there. I always find it extremely expensive to stay in Boston, where my daughter lives. I'll check out this option and see what I can come up with.
I found a site that I will check out next time I'm going to Boston. They do have daily rates, but say to call, so I will definitely give that a try! http://corporatehousing.com Thanks again, Mary. In all my travels, I've never known about this option.
imperial357 on 08/31/2010:
thanks ben good looking out on these grimmy companies!
getoverit on 09/22/2010:
Marybird: Great Idea!
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Travelocity Hotel Gift Card is a BAD Joke
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I have spent many hours trying to book a hotel reservation using a $500 Travelocity hotel gift card, to no avail. You can only book on travelocityincentives.com. I get all the way through the credit card payment process and then I get an error message that says' there is an error with the website at this time. SO, I call the 800# on the back, only to be told this has been a recurring problem all summer and I need to call Travelocity directly. I spent 3 hours back and forth with Travelocity via phone and email and am still not able to book a hotel. Travelocity cannot book my room using a gift card. They can only accept a credit card. Back to Travelocityincentives and well they can't help because their site is powered by Travelocity. So, back to Travelocity and I hold for another 30 minutes and get disconnected. I tried emailing for service and after 6 emails back and forth, they continue to refer me to the Travelocity 800#(the people that can only accept payment with a credit card). Also, they told me that their are making updates to their website which may have disabled some services, such as my inability to book a room? What? Who takes down a travel site during peak season? I am so frustrated. Now, I have to come out of my pocket for another $500 to pay for my room and I can't get any help from this horrible company.
Also, the Customer Service folk are horrible. They don't listen and just keep reading script over and over. Its in some foreign country. Not sure which, but I could hear a bunch of talking and laughing loudly while I was talking to one of the 2 "supervisors" I spoke to last night. It was very difficult to communicate back and forth due to the heavy accents, the noise and frankly them not listening!
Please do not ever purchase on the Travelocity Hotel Gift Cards.
Now, I have to go to the Feds to file a case with the CFPB. Waste of my time, when companies should just give you what you purchased.
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I Got Nooked....Never Again!
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SOUTHLAKE, TEXAS -- I purchased a vacation package on Travelocity and paid for the cancellation insurance (which was extra) offered by Travelocity for additional costs at the time of purchase. A week later, I had to cancel. I telephoned Travelocity to make the cancellation and the agent stated that because I purchased the insurance, I would be refunded 100% of my hotel costs and that, as the conditions stated, they will not give me a refund for the airfare portion of my trip because that the tickets were non-refundable but changeable which the airline (United) charges a $200 change fee which will be credited to me by Travelocity since I paid for the cancellation insurance which allowed me to make a one- time cancellation for any reason at no charge. She also stated that I could, however, reuse the ticket towards the airfare portion should I book another vacation package with Travelocity and apply the airfare credit towards the airline portion of the package as long as I fly the same airline that the credit was issued on and that I use the credit within one year. Well, I decided to reuse the ticket and book another package. Now Travelocity tells me that I cannot use the ticket towards another âpackageâ even though I'm flying the same airline, and that I have to book the airline "separate" from the hotel. In other words, it cannot be used when purchasing a hotel and airfare package. By booking the airfare and hotel separately, my additional costs would be over $200! For example, my cost of the air with the package was $485 and booked separately was $691. There airfares are for sure âpaddedâ when you book separately. What rip off artist!! So, now I'm stuck with a United Airlines credit that I can only use through Travelocity (I cannot go directly to the airline) and will have to pay an inflated price when I book an airfare (and oh, by the way, they said that they still have to charge your card for the $200 fee and that I personally will have to go and fight with the insurance company to get my cash back). This was a lesson learned and I will never use Travelocity again! With all of the complaints filed against them (unanswered) exactly who are they paying off to stay in business?? This was a lesson learned and I will never use Travelocity again! With all of the complaints filed against them (unanswered) exactly who are they paying off to stay in business?? Why must consumers continue to suffer due to sharks like this! I will post this on every social media site, every complaint site, warn every man, woman and child to stay away from this company!
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Weedwhacked on 02/05/2014:
No insurance lets you cancel "for whatever reason." Read the policy you agreed to.
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Screwed by Travelocity
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I was using Travelocity to piece together a family trip to New Mexico. I needed to book a stay for one night in Taos and pulled up a deal for a motel there. When I submitted the reservation on the Travelocity website an error screen popped up which told me that the reservation had not been completed and that I needed to retry. So, I followed the instructions from the website and re-submitted the reservation. Little did I know that a confirmation e-mail had been sent to me informing me that the original reservation had indeed been completed in spite of what the website had told me. This resulted in me double booking a non-refundable reservation for that night in Taos.
When I checked my e-mail a little while later I discovered the two confirmation e-mails and realized that the reservation had been duplicated. I immediately called Travelocity to rectify the situation and they told me that there was nothing Travelocity would do and that they'd have to get the money back from the hotel. Meanwhile, the manager at the hotel was on vacation and the desk clerk did not have the authority to refund the duplicated reservation. I called repeatedly over the next week and a half to have this done, but the manager was never reached and I ended up having to pay for two rooms.
The issue that I had with the website was investigated by Travelocity, but they said that since a confirmation e-mail was sent to me that I should have known to not believe their website and to have checked my e-mail prior to re-submitting. I saw the receipt for what the hotel billed to Travelocity and they made a profit of $22/night/room for the reservation. They refused to even refund the profit that they had for their website having screwed me over.
In addition to this, the next hotel we stayed at (also booked through Travelocity), didn't have our reservation and I had to spend an hour working with the desk clerk and customer service to get this fixed (after a long days travel). I am done with Travelocity forever.
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Do Not Book Hotels From This Company
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My husband and I booked a room in New Orleans at Harrahs hotel. The room was supposed to be a luxury room suite with 2 queen beds. We booked this through Travelocity. com. This was our 20th anniversary celebration and what did we get? No luxury suite 1 queen bed and it was for the hearing impaired. I called Travelocity who called the hotel and they stated that they only guaranteed a room and not the accommodations asked for. We paid over 800.00 for this room that was only worth 150.00 at most. Travelocity should have advised us of Harrahs policy and they did not.
I expect a refund and I will never book another vacation with Travelocity or Harrahs hotel in New Orleans.
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Old Timer on 05/06/2013:
"they only guaranteed a room"? I would be raising holy hell over that one. So. if you book the cheapest room they have they could give you a suite or the pent house? Or you rent the pent house and they give you a standard room? I don't think so, every hotel has various room levels you can request.
Travelocity should have never made the reservation under those terms. (another great reason to stay clear of these 3rd party sites) And Harrah's flat out lied. In looking over their rates I see everything from $79.00 to $399.00. OK Harrah's, I'll take that $399.00 room for $79.00! Thank you!
That's how much sense they make about their own comment.
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1400 FORT WORTH, TEXAS -- Booked and pre-paid 7 nights in the Holiday Inn Express Barcelona, Spain for 3 persons in the room through the Travelocity website.
Received the confirmation and printed the document.
When we reached the hotel The front desk manager told us they did not honor Travelocity reservations, that even that I paid for 3 persons in one room, Travelocity only paid for 2 persons.
Charged me 50 euros (75.25) additional per night ($526.75.
When baCk in US send a complaint to the Travelocity Customer Service, they replied that it was the way the front desk manager said.
Even that Travelocity charged additional for the 3 persons in one room, the Hotel had to charge for the 3rd person because of what Travelocity paid the hotel.
Be careful when booking in Travelocity, THEIR RESERVATION WILL NOT BE THE FINAL PAYMENT FOR WHAT YOU BOOK. THEIR PRICE WARRANTY DOES NOT EXIST.
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Thank you for taking the time to advise us of the situation you encountered with Express by Holiday Inn Barcelona hotel. We apologize for any inconvenience that has caused. Our priority is to offer complete and accurate information as well as superior customer service at all times. .
With reference to the reservation with Express by Holiday Inn Barcelona as the reservation which was booked for Check-in:: Fri, Jun 17, 2011 and Check-out:: Mon, Jun 20, 2011. After reviewing the reservation you had booked the room 1 Queen Bed With Sofa Bed Nonsmoking Non Refundable. On both reservations the front desk manager of the Holiday Inn Express Barcelona told you that Travelocity used to charge for 3 persons in a room but only paid for 2 persons to them, so he would not honor the reservations. Travelocity policy says that all rooms are based on double occupancy Unfortunately Travelocity will not be able to honor any refund or compensation .
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Alain on 07/13/2011:
I book directly with Holiday Inn using my priority club membership and have not encountered any real problems so far. When there has been a minor difficulty it has been promptly attended to by Holiday Inn. I avoid third party contractors such as Travelocity.
jktshff1 on 07/13/2011:
book direct....Travellusty honored their own terms and conditions, regardless of how bad they are.
trmn8r on 07/13/2011:
This sounds like a pitfall of using a third party. I always book directly, and after reading all the ugly complaints against Travelocity, Expedia, Orbitz, I will continue doing so.
I can't tell exactly what happened, but it sounds like you told Travelocity you had 3 people and they only charged for 2 per their policy, almost as if they ignored the fact you said there were 3 ?????
Anonymus on 11/09/2011:
Sounds like you booked it online yourself not knowing prices are based on double occupency. Should have double checked everything and if so, book with an agent over the phone.
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There is nothing "free and loose" with the events of what happened here that would change the picture from "this guy flew off a handle and shot unarmed black kids who never even stepped out of their vehicle" to "oh maybe he was just defending himself."
It is the same topic: race and killings, and how they are related.
I've worked for black candidates to be elected. I have opposed racist individuals in my community. The imputation that anyone who doesn't merrily march along with every race thread on JUB is secretly a Klansman is lame.
The thread was and is an alarm about a black young man being slain as a racist white-on-black act. At every point I've agreed that the murder is reprehensible and not defensible. That said, it doesn't remove the pattern of these threads on JUB, which is the ongoing implication that race violence is somehow rampant in the U.S. and all the more in some states.
My point was and is that MANY MORE black men are killed by their own social and racial peers to NO ONE'S outrage on JUB, especially the watchdogs who are endlessly posting about white on black killings which occur in A MINUTE FRACTION of the rate of incidence of black on black.
If race is a valid aspect to discuss in murder, then it is a valid aspect. It is not tantamount to defending white on black murder simply because one places in perspective the numbers involved in proportion to the black on black killings.
Far from being a diversion, it is highly relevant when discussing race's role in the murder of black men in America.
The numbers are not subjective. The glass is not half-full of white men killing black teens. It is about 80% full of dead black American males killed by other black American males. Then there are a few white on black racist killing, which are in far, far fewer occurrences than these thread posters would have anyone believe.
While presumably arguing against racism, they are in fact promulgating it by implying that white men are killing black teens in any sizable numbers.
The stand your ground law may well be wrong and used inappropriately, but the imputation that race killings are rampant is just plain exaggeration, and far from the real story about what is killing young black males.
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I mean next up did race play no role in the Trayvon case? I don't hear about a lot of white teenagers being stalked by neighborhood watchmen cowboys on their way home from 7-11 and then being shot to death because they were "threatening" with their skittles, but hey if those stories are out there, please bring them up.
Me saying that the law in Florida is terrible would be the same whether the shooter had been purple and the kids had been fuschia. You would not catch me any less likely to say this is a stupid law that encourages cowboy vigilantism. In fact that's exactly how I've described the problem with this law multiple times, I haven't said it's a "race law telling whites to kill people", though clearly it is encouraging a few white people to take their perceptions of minorities being disruptive and dangerous and go out and handle that problem with a gun.The thread was and is an alarm about a black young man being slain as a racist white-on-black act. At every point I've agreed that the murder is reprehensible and not defensible. That said, it doesn't remove the pattern of these threads on JUB, which is the ongoing implication that race violence is somehow rampant in the U.S. and all the more in some states.
Yes, you've made that point multiple times. So Hard-up let me ask you. If an American is decapitated overseas by a terrorist, how come people have any reaction to it at all? I mean look how many Americans die in car crashes everyday. Where's the outrage over that? We shouldn't have a war on terrorism. We should have a war on automobiles!My point was and is that MANY MORE black men are killed by their own social and racial peers
^That's your logic.
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Reductio ad absurdum (from the Latin: "reduction to absurdity") is a common form of argument which seeks to demonstrate that a statement is true by showing that a false, untenable, or absurd result follows from its denial… or in turn to demonstrate that a statement is false by showing that a false, untenable, or absurd result follows from its acceptance.
And I totally agree with a comment I received, he really is the epitome why we need to always have a safe place here to discuss race. It's frightening how he and so many others can be so willingly blind.
We don't need powdery sugarcoated bullshit... we need to really tackle issues. Stop telling people on here what they can or cannot discuss. The refusal to discuss the rampant racism in this country shows how willing some are to address the issues.
And? What is that supposed to prove? It's easy to post a link... even easier not giving an argument regarding the topic.
And for anyone that has a problem with race threads or doesn't want to engage in them there is simply an option, don't click to open the thread. No thread on here is forcing your hand and subjecting you to post. It's no wonder why some members don't post as much when you have people either complaining about the topic you made or criticizing your posting style..
Topics like Race, Religion, Politics don't need to be as "taboo" or touchy as people try to make them out to be. There are people who can't go into these discussions without thinking they're right, being too emotional about the topic, being able to handle someones different opinion or being open to the fact that someone might bring something to the table that will bring a newer view about said topic*. In general they can't handle these discussions. I definitely felt like since first starting here my opinions on things changed and expanded because of discussions on here and in the "real world."
And it is sad that it really needs to come to this in order for people to able to have a civil conversation about it.And I totally agree with a comment I received, he really is the epitome why we need to always have a safe place here to discuss race. It's frightening how he and so many others can be so willingly blind.
*I just want to point out that I can also be guilty of these things from time to time. I don't want to make it sound like I am above this kind of thing, because I'm not. Sometimes emotions do get the best of someone.
And good post Tombastep. I agree totally that the "omg u ppl just make everything race all the time" blows up the topic more than any other factor. If those people really can't stand the discussion just don't enter it.
I'm not a Pit-bull who enjoys the testosterone rush of having aggressive, loud, vicious arguments for the sake of having aggressive, loud, vicious arguments. And I'm not a pitbull who bites without thinking... but I'm assuming that your brain didn't even register those graphs in the link in the three minutes between posts on the first of December before your brain told you to bite again.
I think those statistics are more eloquent than all your frenzied, angry biting and frothing at the mouth.
^ Hmm. . . a two minute delay.
You didn't even see the statistics. I'm now convinced YOU with your biting avatar and location are The New Giancarlo.
Pat Grimshaw going after and insulting a banned member. Keep it classy. Funny how he has a lot more to say when the person is incapable of saying something back.
^ he'll back soon, biting and snapping and frothing at the mouth.
I hope Dunn is prosecuted and the "Stand-your-ground Defence" is repealed. And I wish there was more evidence and less hysteria. I reckon if tasers can be fitted with cameras then guns should be too!
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"Not with a bang, but a F--king Whimper"
Adam Mansbach first book, "Go the F--K To Sleep' was brilliant because it was shocking, funny, original, and the meter worked. This one has Bryan Cranston, but that is just about it. IT wasn't nearly as good and the novelty is gone. It just doesn't work. Unless you are a die-hard eater, or love the F--k out of Adam Mansbach, I wouldn't buy this. But since it is free, sure down load the F--ker.
"A Killer War Novel"
One of my favorite historical fiction novels of ALL TIME. I read this with my 13 year-old son and 12 year-old daughter and it was amazing. My kids loved it just as much as I did. It was tight, character-driven, and dramatic. Imagine my surprise when my kids are discussing the virtues of Team Chamberlain (smart, honorable, thoughtful, a natural leader) VS Team Longstreet (brilliant, ahead of his time, brooding, quiet).
The Civil War is one of those historical periods that is a bit anachronistic to me. It has elements of romance, chivalry, honor, gentility mixed in with the horrible stench of a modern, brutal war. There are characters like Lee, Chamberlain, Pickett, Stuart, etc., who seem to belong in some Arthurian myth/melodrama next to Longstreet and Hancock who could easily have been cast in some post-apocalyptic Battle Royale. Add to this, the fact that these were real men, with real failings, fighting real friends and the book almost seems to narrate itself.
Anyway, this is a top-shelf war novel -- it educates, it entertains (as much as a war novel can be called entertainment) and it is beautiful. There were some paragraphs I wanted Terence Malick to film.
"Surveys doubt with amazing narrative skill"
Hecht's historical survey of doubt is a lot of things and seems to do them all very well. It is a defense of doubt, a survey of doubt, a biography of doubters, a family tree of doubt's relatives. It looks at doubt both from within and external to belief. It examines the motives and believers and gives each its appropriate due.
I found the book to be highly readable. Strange to say, it was almost TOO readable. I felt myself slipping through the pages/listening to the narration* almost too fast. It has given me a whole new group of thinkers and philosophers to examine. I was very familiar with many of the doubters in Western and Classical traditions, but Hecht gave me a whole new group of Eastern, Jewish and Muslim doubters to get to know. Plus, even with those nonbelievers & skeptics I was familiar with (Lucretius, Montaigne, Spinoza, Cicero, Epicurus, Pliny, Gibbon, Paine, Jefferson, Bruno, etc.) she gave me whole new approaches and windows to see them through.
Finally, Hecht also found an appropriate way to thread the Book of Job writer, Jesus, Buddha, Qohelet (wrote Ecclesiastes), etc., into the framework of doubt. I think the book would have been crippled without it. Finally, she didn't avoid the negative, state-sponsored doubt period (Fascism, Communism) of the 20th century. Not all doubters do good things. Anyway, it was worth the money and the time for sure and will be re-read in the future.
* If you listen, I'd still get a hard copy. It is worth it just for the bibliography. You are going to want to be able to dig deeper on at least half a dozen of the men, women, skeptics and doubters she mentions.
"Meaning IS happiness."
"A man who becomes conscious of the responsibility he bears toward a human being who affectionately waits for him, or to an unfinished work, will never be able to throw away his life. He knows the "why" for his existence, and will be able to bear almost any "how"."
- Viktor E Frankl
I read an interesting article in the NYTImes a couple weeks ago that lead me to finally pick this book up. Actually, a couple good articles. The first was titled 'Love People, Not Pleasure' and it was about how "this search for fame, the lust for material things and the objectification of others — that is, the cycle of grasping and craving — follows a formula that is elegant, simple and deadly: Love things, use people." The author uses an inversion of this formula that DOES lead to happiness: Use things, Love People (also quoted by Spencer W. Kimball). This article + another recent one from the Atlantic titled 'There's More to Life Than Being Happy' made it clearly evident to me that I needed to finally dust of my yellowed, Goodwill copy of Man's Search for Meaning, plug in my earbuds and experience this book that the Universe clearly wanted me to read this week.
So, imagine a renowned Jewish therapist writes in 1946 (in 9 days) about his experiences at and survival in Auschwitz, and then adds his own psychotherapeutic method (Logotherapy), finding happiness by finding a meaning, a responsibility, a love, and ultimately self-determining. Perhaps it is a consequence of Frankl's work surrounding me in other writings, in popular psychotherapy, in various internet Memes and articles OR perhaps it is just a consequence of my own resilience to my own suffering that this book wasn't much of a revelation. I was like ... yup, makes a lot of sense. Good job. I think it is a great book for what it is. I just don't always get super-excited by self-help psychology books. This one is on the better end of the bell curve for this type, but I guess my problem is with the type. Other than that (minus 1-star for my type bias) it was a great book.
"A Tease of Time & A Brief History of Science"
I know. I know. I both loved and hated this book. I definitely should never have read this book, cut the pages, opened the box, etc.. Somehow Stephen Hawking has written a book that gently fluffs the tail on Schrödinger's cat (or perhaps Schrödinger's cat is fluffing Dr. Hawking).
Look, no doubt the guy is a genius and has a fantastic story (ALS, computer voice, nurses, Black Holes, strippers, movies, etc). My problem is the wussification of a large scientific narrative by one of Big "P" Physics primary scientists. Let someone else write a pop-GUT/Blackhole/Big Bang story. Let another writer do the pop-up Children's book with the scratch-n-sniff singularity, the rotating black hole, the pull-out universe.
I want Dr. Hawking doing smart stuff. Let Bill Bryson write the summary science. But it is too late for me. I already crossed the damn event horizon. I've just become entangled with his book, so my "observer state" now corresponds to the damn book and the damn book review being both five stars and 1 stars is no longer a possibility; my reader state is entangled or linked now with my own review so that the "observation of the book review's state" and the "review's state" correspond with each other. I am finished.
Hey, now to go see some movies about blackholes and wormholes and a-holes.
"Any journey with Bryson becomes a trip"
Bryson uses his own family's Victorian parsonage to map out the history (mainly focused on the 18th - 20th Century) of the private life. His discussion of specific rooms ends up allowing Bryson to tangent off onto related topics as wide and varied as sex, family, sh!t, medicine, architecture, makeup, rope-making, etc.
This book is a movement through a house that allows Bryson to riff on people and ideas that are funny, iconic, and always peculiar. Bryson is amazing at flipping over a stone and telling three different stories about the stone, the flip, and the bugs hiding underneath the stone. He will also examine the shoe that flipped the stone and occasionally inserts his own experience with stones and shoes. This book follows his the model of his other expansive history: A Short History of Nearly Everything.
"Read and released."
Reading McPhee is like watching a brilliant tennis player you've followed for years. I know his moves. I can even predict most of his methods, but I keep coming back to watch him put it all together. He is masterful. He makes the incredibly difficult work of narrative nonfiction seem effortless. Beautiful prose swims right up to McPhee and jumps into his net or flops right into the pages of his book.
Once again McPhee matches a microhistory (the American Shad) with great characters (biologists, fishermen, sportsmen, presidents, even his wife) present and past, amazing locations and takes you completely through the subject. You emerge from tail of the book knowing the history, the biology, the life, the death, the taste and the debate surrounding America's founding fish. He shows you every single bone in a boney fish. Read and released.
"Bolaño Poetic Gyre"
This is a book that is nearly impossible to review, absolutely impossible to summarize, and simultaneously amazing and frustrating. Bolaño created a novel and a narrative that (IMHO) attempted to capture the energy, the personalities, the youth and the mortar that held together Mexican and Latin American poets during the mid-1970s. It feels like he took every poetic image, idea, stray hair and paper from every Mexican poet during the past forty years and laid them all down on black velvet to be examined. He found poetry in the "visceral realists" excesses and his semi-autobiographical confessions. Bolaño jumps from chapter-to-chapter, from scene-to-scene, from sunset-to-sunset and keeps reinventing his PoMo novel as he writes it.
I have to be fair. It wasn't my favorite novel, but it seems the most likely (of all the novels I've read these last two or three years) to suddenly become animated. If any novel is going to jump off my lap, and wander off into the wilderness -- this is the one. It seems to be written not just in ink, but in blood, tears, seed, and fire.
It someways it reminds me of the beginning of Yeat's poem 'Second Coming':
Turning and turning in the widening gyre
The falcon cannot hear the falconer;
Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.
With Roberto Bolaño the center of this gyre is Mexico City and with each page he writes (forward and back in time) Bolaño seems to be adding potential energy to the explosion that will loose his mad, Mexican poets, these thieves and dealers, these visceral realists, around the world. As I chew on this image, I think the idea of vortexes and gyres is equally applicable to ALL poets. It captures the way creativity often explodes, demands to be exposed, and drives before its flood chariots of innocence, creativity and youth.
"A Great Survey of Mahler's Life and Major Works"
Good enough that my major complaint is I wish it were just longer. Professor Greenberg with his wit, knowledge, and charisma is able to draw a nice narrative arc through the life of Gustav Mahler. This course is broken into 8 lectures:
1. Introduction & Childhood
2. Mahler the Conductor
3. Early Songs and Symphony 1
4. The Wunderhorn Symphonies
5. Alma and Vienna
6. Family Life and Symphony 5
7. Symphony 7 & Das Lied von de Erde
8. Das Lied, Final Symphonies, & the End.
It all felt a bit too compressed for me. Perhaps I'm just spoiled because I've been listening also to his 30 Greatest Orchestral Works and each piece in that recording is given a whole lecture (45 minutes). I would have liked to see more time on each of his major symphonies and works AND not lose any of the actual history.
But really, that is my only major complaint. I would recommend for the serious listener to also go buy the major symphonies (from major labels and great conductors) and listen to them a couple times while listening to this course. I fell in love with Mahler's 5th & 9th before this course, but this course gave me a lot more of Mahler to love.
"Guns of August which I heard in September"
What an amazing piece of historical writing. Tuchman shows how August, 2014 was impacted by two failed plans (Plan 17 & the Schlieffen Plan), Generals and politicos who were either overly optimistic at the wrong time or overly pessimistic at the wrong time. She detailed how inadvertent acts by disgraced Generals might have saved France, how the politics and the national moods of France, Germany, Russia, and Great Britain may have contributed to the length of the Great War.
After the Civil War and the War of Franco-Prussian War of 1870, war had morphed into a whole new beast. Few leaders grasped this at the beginning of August but by September 1914 there were very few living on the European continent who could avoid recognizing that war would never be the same again. The vitality and the drama of Tuchman's narrative made this book seemed delivered by 420-millimetre siege howitzers. Chapter after chapter would absolutely devastate me as I listened (and read for the maps and pacing). I am very glad I wasn't in the French (or Belgian or German or Russian) military in August of 1914.
Lee is such a solid narrator. It wasn't a standout, but I have absolutely no complaints. He read well. It was easily listened to at 2.5+ speed.
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Schenectady's city council has voted to override Mayor McCarthy's veto of their budget for 2013. Innae Park has more.
SCHENECTADY, N.Y. -- The resounding message: The budget can be changed. With that, the Schenectady city council voted to override the mayor's veto of it, five to one.
Councilwoman Margaret King was the lone dissenter.
King said, "My concern is that we made too many cuts."
That worry was echoed by other members.
"We have made cuts a little too deep," one person said.
This stems from a memo released earlier in the day by the finance commissioner. It outlined the following:
"The impact on our Moody's rating, the impact on city staffing, the impact on city services. We haven't been able to get a good handle on what is the impact of the cuts we've made," King said.
"There's lots of things that fluctuate," said Councilman Carl Erikson.
Finance Committee Chair Carl Erikson says he plans to do some digging of his own.
Erikson said, "I sent some emails off today and will follow up with phone calls to make sure I fully understand the issues."
In the meantime, it's clear the council sees the budget as a joint effort.
"Because the council is overriding this budget, it doesn't mean that we don't want to work with the mayor," another said.
The mayor has not commented publicly about his veto. He finally broke his silence at the meeting, saying he will work with the council.
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