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Mystical India
Mystical and spiritual, India is a land of rich contrasts. Explore its multifaceted culture as you travel through the classic Golden Triangle and east to Varanasi, stopping in Kalakho where local Meena tribespeople invite you into their homes.
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Of all the overseas trips we've taken, this trip ranks right at the top. Smithsonian did an outstanding job of balancing sites and activities with learning. We saw and did so much but we learned even more. We'll always remember India."
Ron Z.
I have wanted to visit India all my life and, therefore, had very high expectations. This trip far exceeded all those expectations. It was everything I hoped for and more!"
Brenda S.
India is not only mystical, but it is memorable, and magic. An initial visit only whets one's desire to return to experience the unique physical and spiritual senses over and over again."
Kenneth N.
I am so happy I saw India with the Smithsonian. It has such a rich and extraordinary history, and Smithsonian was the way to go!"
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This tour is specially designed for a small group of 16 to 24 Smithsonian travelers and offers outstanding travel value. Prices include airfare, airline taxes, fuel surcharges, and departure fees.
Mystical and spiritual, chaotic and confounding, India is a land rich in contrasts. Join us to explore northern India's multifaceted culture, history, and traditions as we travel through the classic Golden Triangle and east to Varanasi.
In sprawling Delhi, tour both Old and New Delhi and ride a rickshaw through colorful Chandni Chowk market. In the "pink city" of Jaipur, marvel at historic forts, royal palaces, and gardens built by maharajas. Learn about the ancient discipline of yoga at a private demonstration and visit the nearby village of Sanganer to watch craftsmen work at traditional block printing and papermaking. During game drives in Ranthambore National Park look for Bengal tiger, monkey, langur, and exotic birds, and join a camel safari in Kalakho, where local Meena tribespeople invite you into their homes. In Agra, visit the majestic Taj Mahal and take an Indian cooking lesson. Then in Khajuraho, view temple architecture that is considered the finest in northern India. Conclude your journey in the holy city of Varanasi to witness the powerful spiritual rituals along the Ganges River.
Days 1-2 — U.S. and Delhi
Depart the U.S. for Delhi on individual flights. Upon arrival late in the evening, transfer to your hotel.
Days 3-4 — Delhi
Built by a succession of empires, Delhi is comprised of many cities. Explore both Old and New Delhi beginning with an afternoon tour of the 16th-century Tomb of Humayun, Qutab Minar, and India Gate. The next day your exploration of Old Delhi begins at the Gandhi Memorial and continues with many highlights, including Lal Qila, the Red Fort complex of palaces where we stop for photos; Jama Masjid, India's largest mosque dating to 1656; a rickshaw ride through Chandi Chowk market; a Sikh temple; and a tour of the National Museum. (2B,2D)
Day 5 — Jaipur
Travel by coach to the "pink city" of Jaipur, one of the great cities of the Rajput, with historic forts, palaces, and gardens. Upon arrival late in the afternoon, settle into your hotel, once a Maharajah's palace. (B,L,D)
Day 6 — Jaipur
Explore the city's rich history beginning with the stunning Hawa Mahal, or "Palace of the Winds", an elaborate facade of carved pink sandstone. Tour the famous Amber Fort, a Rajput capital from 1037 to 1728 and considered the pinnacle of Rajput architecture. Visit an open-air observatory, then view some of the Maharajah's magnificent art collections at the City Palace Museum. (B,L)
Day 7 — Jaipur and Sanganer
Early this morning, enjoy a traditional yoga demonstration and chanting. In the nearby village of Sanganer, learn about traditional block printing and handmade paper industries, then experience the colorful sights and sounds of a local market. Enjoy an invitation to be dinner guests in the home of a multi-generational Rajasthan family. (B,D)
Days 8-9 — Ranthambore
Once the hunting ground of the Maharajah of Jaipur, Ranthambore National Park is now a 512-square-mile nature preserve that is home to hundreds of species of birds, reptiles, mammals— and of course, the endangered Bengal tiger. Arrive in time for an afternoon game drive, and enjoy additional game drives the next day. (Tiger and leopard sightings are not guaranteed.) (2B,2L,2D)
Day 10 — Kalakho
Early today depart for Kalakho and the Dera Village Retreat. Enjoy an afternoon camel safari to meet the local Meena tribespeople in their homes. (B,L,D)
Days 11-12 — Abhaneri and Agra
Travel to the village of Abhaneri to see the fortified Chand Boari stepwell (c. 800), whose 3,500 steps descend some 13 stories into the ground. Arrive in Agra in the early afternoon. The next morning, tour the Taj Mahal, the magnificent tomb built by Emperor Shah Jahan in memory of his beloved wife. After an Indian cuisine cooking lesson and lunch, visit the imposing Agra Fort, a vast complex that served for generations as the seat of Mughal power. (2B,1L,1D)
Days 13-14 — Jhansi, Orchha, and Khajuraho
Travel by train to Jhansi, then continue by coach to the village of Orchha for lunch. Continue to Khajuraho, whose collection of 22 Hindu temples dating back to the 10th century is a World Heritage site. Spend the next day exploring several of Khajuraho's well-preserved temples, considered the finest examples of temple architecture in Northern India. (2B,1L,2D)
Day 15 — Varanasi
Today, fly to Varanasi, Hinduism's holiest city and a sacred place of pilgrimage. This evening attend a traditional aarti offering ceremony during a cruise along the Ganges. (B,D)
Day 16 — Varanasi
Early this morning return to the Ganges, where Hindu pilgrims perform their rituals along the ghats (steps) leading to the river. Visit several of the important ghats by boat as you experience the spiritual mystique of these hallowed waters, and stop at the new Vishwanath Temple of white marble at Banaras Hindu University. Later, travel to Sarnath, birthplace of Buddhism and still a major center of the practice. Enjoy a private Kathak dance performance. Tonight, celebrate your journey with a farewell dinner. (B,D)
Days 17-18 — Delhi and Return to the U.S.
Fly to Delhi this afternoon and depart early the next morning for the U.S. on individual flights. (B)


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I used to have a room or two devoted to my traditional supplies, then I had to move to a small apartment, there was no room for it. I did still take a few things since one of my neighbors was a scrapper too but all that work and we only got together for scrapping a couple of times. So much hassle. I had dabbled in digi a tiny bit before that but it was becoming more for me than the traditional work and with 2 small nosey kids at the time I didn't have to worry about missing something (scissors or glue) when I had to stop. My hubby was constantly upset with the amount of money I was spending on this and that in order to do a layout, there were several times he asked me to find a new hobby.
After a couple of years I had to move again, when I was packing my bedroom I had gotten a special box just for my albums. I picked them up, somehow one ended upside down, when I picked it up the floor became covered in embellishments. I opened it up, every layout had fallen apart. I was so tore up I decided it was time to make the switch completely to digi, those pages wont fall apart on me and my DH is much happier with me and doesn't say a word about my spending any longer.
I haven't been able to get rid of all my traditional supplies, they are organized and while I don't have a massive amount it is A LOT. I decided to keep the items for my kids. They have small albums and they love cutting up things, gluing things and generally making a mess, perfect! We now use my supplies for making things to frame and hang in their room or cards. I'm not so protective over the stuff anymore. I would much rather them have fun with it and make a mess than to have it just collecting dust, I mean its likely it's going to have the same fate as my albums anyway so why bother.

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What's the uptime on Hold the Line, single target and multi? I would have thought that +10% Critical Strike would alone make that talent a must have, unless the uptime is alot lower than it appears.
Well, I could certainly see it as being viable if you need the points. Although it's been posted quite a bit on the beta forums, Hold the Line has never really been adjusted and is numerically very, very weak.
Although I would typically grab it, I think it's more habit now than anything else. When it was a Tier 1 talent, it was fairly easy of a choice, but now that it's not it's less appealing. Overall, it probably makes very close to no difference in your overall survivability, so I certainly wouldn't lose sleep over it in a general-purpose build. (I also only recently realized they had changed it from Attack Power to Critical % on the Hold the Line proc, which is quite a lot less valuable for threat compared to the old version.)
That build you posted is probably a rather nice general-purpose build.
Hold the Line will be pretty weak until they either resolve Critical Block being a 2-roll system or when you get enough Mastery to raise your Block chance to be very high.
What's the uptime on Hold the Line, single target and multi? I would have thought that +10% Critical Strike would alone make that talent a must have, unless the uptime is alot lower than it appears.
Regarding prot specs, I'm looking at this for 5mans.
Get rid of both Vigilance and Concussion Blow, and use those points to buff dmg, threat, and self-healing (Field Dressing, Blood Craze, Incite+War Academy).
We'll see if I can get by without Conc Blow in Cata 5mans. I'm not sure a 5s stun every 30 will count as CC, whereas I find myself working Cleave and Heroic Strike into my rotations pretty frequently in between GCDs on DV, RV, SS.
Last edited by Kurtosis; 10-10-2010 at 04:03 AM.
This is the build I currently use in the beta to tank heroics.
Just a few comments. I am not a fan of blood and thunder. It is not necessary to aoe tank.
People are going to ask why did you get Drums of War? It's quite simple the amount of damage you take in cata heroics is insane. Demoralizing shout reduces all physical damage by 10%. Being able to cast it and not lose any rage on the start of a pull is vital. Also being able to interrupt at the start of the pool and in low rage situations is amazing. Especially when Heroic Throw is on cd.
For everybody posting threat builds and what not. Threat hasn't really been an issue, survival is.
I have to say I am not too thrilled with the prot talent tree for this expac. I feel that alot of the "fun" talents that blizzard wanted to add to each tree are things that I would not take if I had a choice in the matter. The fact that I generally don't have a choice in the matter is a problem. Blood and Thunder sounds reasonable in theory but the only time its actually going to be helpful (having not playing the beta and speculating on experience), is going to be for AoE whelp style pulls. Of which, I have heard, there are not too many.
Using Blood and Thunder in a tighter tougher group would mean that you aren't worried about CCing anything and can thunderclap your heart out but even then, what kind of a hit are you taking in your TPS on the focus target in order to be able to apply rend and spread it out over the couple of mobs in front of you. It just doesn't seem like a good talent based on the dungeons I have read/seen.
On the other side of that you have Incite which if it were implemented in our little patch 3.3 world would be awesome due to our heroic strike spam, seems to be a little weak and not something I am greatly interested in for Cataclysm. I havent played beta so I don't actually know how often we are in a situation to use Heroic strike but I don't like having to dump 2 points into it just to get out of my first tier (cause blood and thunder looks terrible).
Moving down my focus turns to Shield mastery. This is a talent that I would consider good due to the number of talents it affects but not really optional when put side by side with Gag order. Gag order is a fun talent that I have used successfully on many occasions but I just cannot bring myself to spec into that if I am really trying to be the most optimal tank out there. I know how to bounce around well enough with Warbringer and use my taunts and cooldowns to manage spread out casters. The reason I compare this with Shield Mastery when you don't need either to get out of Tier 2, is because you need one of them to be able to fill out your tree.
This comes around to an inherent problem with the protection tree. There are alot of talents that are so situational that I don't want them when I am thinking of general PvE focus but am forced to take something in order to complete the tree. I mean, when the hell am I going to use Impending Victory? Unless the majority of bosses I start facing start hitting so much harder when they get below 20% that I absolutely must start contributing something to my own healing, then I am never going to take that talent. It seems remarkably weak. Safeguard? Right below shockwave? What are you friggen' kidding me? That was a talent that I only used during Protection PvP in arena and it did good things. However when you go into a 5-man dungeon, I don't care how difficult that dungeon is you are not going to have to rely on the protection of Safeguard to save the healer. If MAY occasionally keep you from wiping but honestly it wouldn't be anything that you couldn't have executed with better control and smarter play anyway (given the number of stuns and taunts that we have at our disposal).
I just feel very down on the whole tanking scenario that prot warriors are going to have to follow with their talent trees. There are several talents in both early arms and fury that I want but can not have until I make the dreaded decision between Blood and Thunder, Incite, or Gag Order. I really wish that Blizz re-evaluated the usefulness of the talents in the tree for your everyday tank given common circumstances. I just don't see this tree being nearly as interesting as our DPS trees.
"If I'm doing a fight and I need more threat... I try harder. If I'm doing a fight and I need my taunts not to miss, then I wear hit." -Veneretio
Does glyph of Shield Wall in beta currently give you an extra 20% reduced damage, but has 2mins more cooldown ? I take it Last Stand glyph has been phased out ?
Marking targets, coordinating CC, and *most importantly*, pulling responsibly so that 9 elites didn't rush us and wipe the party, this Is something I have missed since nov 08.
I've spent the last 2 expansions playing a Protection Paladin and will be jumping the fence for this upcoming one, so my knowledge and experience with Warriors is a little limited.
However, I had a few things I wanted to say about Impending Victory. While I understand it is a huge TPS loss, is that really important given the part of the fight where this becomes an option? A lot of what I've seen and heard through videos and speaking with beta testing healers is that it'd be really difficult not to have this work as effective healing equal to about a medium heal (Holy Light, Heal, etc.) during a traditionally enrage prone moment of an encounter.
One last question as well...does the Victory Rush major glyph affect it at all?
That assumes that boss enrages or sticky points are confined to sub-20%, which is anything but a sure thing.
I would also say that the TPS loss is not great given that: a) Everyone else does more damage during Enrage time, so it's not the best time to be losing TPS and b) The current healing amount isn't really worth the loss and talent points.
I honestly cannot come up with much of a reason to spec into the talent. It could be made quite interesting with one or two minor changes, but it has sadly remained quite the same ever since it appeared.
I'm currently using this spec on the beta and plan onto on live
I think with where rage is currently that booming voice is a very very attractive option. Also, blood and thunder being a tier one protection talent makes it pretty easy to spec into it without losing a lot by doing so. If I were in a single target environment like a boss I'd probably spec into Heavy Repercussions, or War academy. I can't justify Hold the line for anything. And, I think a lot of warriors arn't quite getting they wont have bloodrage anymore. You get commanding shout yes, but that's only 20 rage to start and there isn't the other 10 rage over ten seconds anymore. Also, I'd like to note you won't be able to really charge into a mob that needs to be crowd controlled because you'll take a lot of damage because your forcing yourself into a AE enviroment so in closing You probably wont get the rage from charging a mob to get snap rage and the 10 rage from blood rage and with something like booming voice where you get 30 rage every 30 seconds I can't argue against specing into it for almost all situations withstanding a boss fight.
Aloha all,
Can i ask y u don't use "Heavy Repercussions" and put them in "Impending Victory" while Shield Slam is a basic ability of our class?
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Certainly, I don't use it because it's a damage talent its something that will increase damage to shield slam. Yes shield slam is the hardest hitting thing that is in a protection warriors arsenal I just believe that there are better things to spec into. When rage becomes a non issue I would potentially take the points from booming voice and use them there that or blood academy. It's just that it doesn't do anything out of the ordinary to increase your tankability.
Thank you for your quick and clear answer big
Also, with impending victory you could move the talents to something like heavy repercussions if you choose. With the current state of mana I like having the ability to give a little 8-9k heal when the healers really need the help. The talent will scale with gear very nicely. I know people don't like blood and thunder to. But, for the sake of taking it for utility I have no idea how you can turn it down. You are going to use thunderclap and demo shout all the time now so why not the threat from rend on all targets plus thunderclap plus shockwave should make pulls easier. The game is less AE but still if a mob gets loose who is going to tell me you don't AE and you single target the mob your on and then someone dies and you blame them for not ccing.
If Impending Victory was available all the time, I would agree. You could give it to the healers when they needed the help. Unfortunately, since you will barely get to use it at all in a heroic boss fight and still have huge limitations on it in raids, you can't really do that. The sub-20% limitation kills it considering it's not even a large heal at all.
From my experience on the beta..
Impending Victory may not be as useful initially in heroics and the 5% heal may not seem a lot. However later on with Field Dressing, Glyph of Victory Rush, Larger health pools and long boss encounters being able to heal for (%5 + 1%) + 50% = 9k (100k Health Pool) every 10 secs or so at the end of a fight (sub 20%) especially with healers mana being at a premium it might even become part of an emergency rotation.
Incite, yes it looks like a nice talent however I barely get time to use Heroic Strike let alone spam it twice in a row in an heroic. If your going with this talent then you would obviously want War Academy as well so that's 6 pts to buff an ability that you might be only using on boss fights. At 83 we will get Inner Rage which means its probably best to use Heroic Strike when inner rage is on CD. It could also turn out that HS produces a stupid amount of threat and has to be the only ability to use when your rage capped, so far on beta that's not the case but time will tell.
Blood and Thunder is a good talent, it helps with picking up incoming adds, generating threat on mobs that you are not directly attacking and Thunder Clap will refresh the Rend. I would only not use it if I was building a spec for a specific boss encounter.
Shield Specilization for me is something I will be looking to save some points in, I have had no issues with rage in the beta.
With Warriors being able to produce more rage when off tanking from the Sentinal ability Safeguard will become useful especially when the MT is about to take a big hit and you can reduce it by 30%. Definitely situational for 10/25 mans but probably not something you would have for a generic heroic/10 man PvE build.
Vigilance I think has a lot of value for 1 point, helps with taunts in 5 mans and helps with damage reduction and threat generation when off tanking. Will warriors be the ultimate OT in Cata?
Really looking forward to when some people can come up with solid numbers about the threat generated by these new abilities.
Last edited by World; 10-12-2010 at 10:21 AM.
Keep in mind that, generally speaking, Heroic Strike is currently much better to use than Inner Rage if you are not in a near infinite-rage scenario. Prot Warriors can use Heroic Strike virtually on cooldown most of the time.
Shield Spec provides Rage and translates to higher Inner Rage uptime, and therefore is pretty valuable.
Are others hitting circumstances where this isn't the case, rage is limited, and you have to closely manage your rage usage?


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I was shopping for paint thinner today and stopped at Home Depot. I had the usual metal gallon can in my hand from the lower shelf, and noticed the plastic containers at eye level said "Safer" on them.
I'm not green and I don't care about safe, but I care about price. I noticed the shelf tag said "Safer Klean Strip Thinner GAL $9.47". Then I saw the shelf tag for the can in my hand, and it said "Klean Strip Thinner GAL $9.97".
I was seriously considering the Safer product, until I noticed "120oz" on the label. I looked at the can in my hand, and sure enough it said "128oz".
Then I looked at "quarts" of the Safer variety, and sure enough they said "30oz." The shelf tag said "QT".
So, I arrived home and visited the HD website. The Safer item is advertised in large bold letters as "1-Gal", and down in the "specifications" area it says "128 oz". But looking at the picture in the listing, well, you can look for yourself - 120 oz! Maybe Klean Strip bamboozled HD, but HD needs to get their advertising fixed. I was also in Lowes today and noticed their tags are *correct*.
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DebtorBasher on 02/22/2012:
Can I video tape you while you strip?
Some people just grab and buy...you're like me, I check out the lables, weigh the product, compare the product, count how many M&Ms are in an ounce...yeah, ya got to watch 'those' people!
Venice09 on 02/22/2012:
Sometimes I wonder if these things are done intentionally or are just a matter of poor attention to detail, or prices/sizes changing so frequently that the stores fall behind in making changes to advertisements and shelf labels.
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DB, I will PAY you to watch me strip, if you wear your hair down and act interested or at least amused.
Good question Venice. I was at the pet store today, and notice the Eukanuba bags I usually buy seemed lighter weight and a bit cheaper. I saw "33lbs" and realized I buy (bought) 40lb bags - they reduced the size. The shelf tag said "33lbs".
But then I looked at the smaller bags and saw they were still 20 lbs on the shelf tag and half of the bags on the shelf - the half were only 16.5 pounds!!!. Same expiration date stamped on both the 16.5 lb and 20 lb bags, same price for each.
I brought this to the *owner's* attention, and he seemed totally unconcerned. He said he would change the shelf tag when all the 20lb bags are gone. In the meantime, people may buy 16.5 lb bags thinking they are 20 lb if they read the shelf tag.
DebtorBasher on 02/22/2012:
8er, I always wear my hair down. When I was at the store last week, I was standing in line and I heard the guy behind me say,'Wow, your hair is so neat!' I turned to thank him and he was one of those old hippie type of guy with the long salt and pepper hair and ZZTop beard. LOL! I thought....Man-O-Man, I sure miss ZZ!
HomeDepot_Care on 02/23/2012:
Hi Trmn8r,
Thanks for your feedback. I would like to look into this so that we can have this corrected. Can you email me at firstname.lastname@example.com and let me know what store you visited? Sorry if this caused any inconvenience.
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HD Customer Care
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CowboyFan on 02/23/2012:
File a complaint with your state's Department of Weights and Measures, concerning this matter. That agency regulates the sale of items to insure the weights and measures of those products are correct. If HD is selling 120 ounces as a gallon, that would appear to violate the regulation of weights and measures.
Note: some items by usage do not conform to correct measurements, e.g. 2 X 4, being 1 3/4 by 3 1/2, by common usage. I am not sure we have reached that point with liquid measurements.
Years ago I bought molding at Home Depot and they held it up against painted lines on the wall and said they had to charge me for 8 feet, even though it was closer to 7'2." I filed a complaint with weights and measures saying the painted lines on the wall did not comply with the rules regulation measuring devices used in commerce. HD made some changes.
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MONROE, NEW YORK -- My son purchased Behr Premium Plus Ultra Pure White Kitchen and Bath paint. He primed his bathroom walls and proceeded to put on the paint. He had purchased the paint earlier that day. An associate took the can down from the shelf for him. The paint in the can was an aqua type color. He thought this was odd, but knew Glidden made a paint that went on pink and turned white when it dried and this was a mold and mildew resistant paint with so called nano guard and was an innovative paint, so he felt confident that things were fine. He figured Behr did the same thing with this color as Glidden did with theirs. The can had never been opened from its looks and there were no marks on it. It was first quality and from Home Depot. Well, the paint dried and it never turned white. I called Home Depot in the morning at 7 am and spoke to a manager. I told him I would be there at 4:30 or so (my son doesn't get off work until after 7 so I dealt with it)and asked him who would be there to talk to. He gave his name and the name of the manager on after him. When I went to the store, customer service called down to the manager and he told her to just give me a new can of paint. I told her I wanted to talk to him that there was more involved. He was the same man I spoke to in the morning so he was aware of the basic situation and I was surprised he wasn't going to try to make it up front. She relayed this and he said he was busy and would send another manager up. He ended up coming himself and told me he was doing inventory. I told him I had spoken to him earlier and felt a bit put off by his "customer comes last" attitude. He said he felt that my son should have known the paint would not be white when he opened it. I explained that my son entrusted Home Depot and they handed him the product. Never having used it before, how was he to know this was unusual. After all, Glidden, which Home Depot carries, does this color change when drying. The manager basically said he's going above and beyond by giving me more than the can of paint. He never apologized for the mishap or showed any concern that it was a large inconvenience. I told him my son used primer, which he now needed to use again, brushes (there were two painters), rollers for the primer and the paint, and disposable trays as well as the tape for the edges. All products were bought at Home Depot at the same time as the paint. I had the receipt with me. My son was upset at the prospect of having to repaint (I even brought in pictures to show how much he painted of the walls and ceiling) and really felt all of the materials he had gone through should be replaced as the job must be redone. Again, the manager reiterated that he was going above and beyond with what he was doing. He did not replace the primer, gave me paint, a tray and brush/roller set that he felt should do, plus a couple of liners. He again said he was going above and beyond, not I'm sorry for all of this inconvenience. So my son got one tray but had used two, one brush but had used two, two rollers but got two because there were two people. When I said that this was silly and that we depend on the product to be what it says, he said, "Oh someone probably mixed it and put it back on the shelf." Well, that may be okay by him, but it sure doesn't sit well with me. What kind of excuse is this? Now you don't know what is in what you're buying without proving it? It's a good thing pharmacies don't run by this mantra. I really felt that the customer did not matter. I was inconveniencing him and taking him away from what he was doing. Forget my discomfort at being at the front of the store having to defend my son using the paint Home Depot provided. Forget all the time lost painting as well as returning. Perhaps he will go to a smaller local paint store next time.
Resolution Update 02/13/2008:
Home Depot customer care e-mailed and said they were sorry about the incident and appreciated feedback. They were going to send a gift card.
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Principissa on 02/11/2008:
You got the can of paint, plus a tray, rollers, and liners, what more could you want? Did you want him to come paint the room for him? Be grateful they did anything at all, they could have made you buy a new can of paint and blew you off. This guy tried to do the right thing and did the right thing in my eyes. You should be thanking him for replacing the paint and all the supplies he gave you not blasting him on a public forum like this.
Flute726 on 02/11/2008:
I think that you should report this to Home Depot. The manager's attitude is really unacceptable. I've worked in retail 7 years as a cashier, and I would have NEVER said anything like this. The first rule of thumb is to not argue with what the customer is saying. How do you have any proof that it's a lie? "I'm sorry you're son went through all this trouble." would have not killed the manager. Sounds like he needs a swift kick in the ego.
hello dolly on 02/11/2008:
I agree that it would not have hurt to apologize for the inconvenience and probably would have made you feel better but.....
That being said he manages a store and unfortunately does not have hours on end to hold your hand. There is a reason why stores only have 1 store manager and many subordinate managers. They are there to "handle" situations that may arise on a daily basis. If there was something you felt he should or could do for you why beat around the bush - just flat out ask. I'm sure he can't read your mind any better than his own mother's!!! And guess what you didn't pay HD to paint you decided to do it yourself so this is when you get to fix it yourself.
By the way what "more to this" was there? Did I miss that part?
ejack053824 on 02/11/2008:
As soon as I opened the can of "white" paint and seen that it was Aqua..I would have done a test spot first before doing the entire room. Common sense should have prevailed here.
bdjor on 02/12/2008:
Let's not forget that Home Depot did make an error. Acknowledgement of this would have been classy. Doing the right thing does not mean making a customer uncomfortable in the front of the store. Saying he's going above and beyond and that I should be grateful is not what a manager should do. I did bring the receipt and asked for the materials used to be replaced. Have you ever seen the pink ceiling paint that turns white upon drying? Well, an unseasoned painter may think another company uses aqua. It's got nano performance and mold and mildew resistant technology- maybe that would lead someone to think it's "different." Sure, a spot check may have been a good choice, but someone wouldn't intentionally paint a whole room believing it was the wrong color. It was a mistake based on trusting a product from a reputable business which should have stepped up and taken their part of the responsibility and at least said they would do something to see that paints that have been mixed are marked and not put on the shelves.
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Wrong paint
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PORTLAND, MAINE -- I spent over $ 1,000. to redo my bath at Home Depot and then I order the color paint I wanted a light gray. I hired it all done because I am a senior citizen and needed to install a shower to walk into in place of my tub. I spent 800 on my shower and bought ply wood, a light, towel bars and equipment to install. When I found out my gray was so dark that it looks awful and I did not realize until half done. I called the store ;to complain. I have the card that shows the color I ordered and am so unhappy with this color. I was offered a refund or another gallon of paint. What good would that do me as I cannot paint and have to hire it redone. I was told to find out the cost of painting. This turned out to be 35.00 an hr. and 4 hrs of work. I will never be able to redo this bathroom as I am an old lady and wanted it done right. All I want is a gallon of paint and someone to do it.
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I love my son on 11/20/2012:
Does the color on the card match the color on top of the gallon of paint? They offered you a refund which as far as I have seen at my Home Depot isn't returnable..Paint will usually look different in your house then it does in store for a few reasons one your lighting is most likely not fluorescent and a grey is going to look different in your smaller bathroom then in a big open store..Also if you had a color already on walls and didn't prime them that effects color and the age of the walls and other paints on wall..I know they sell small sample paints you can have color added to and test a wall first before buying gallons and hating color
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I went to the Home Depot where I do all my home improvement shopping. and when I parked and got out of my truck I noticed that there was Red paint on the ground and it was now all on my tire. I nicely told the gentleman at the door that there was fresh red paint on the ground in the parking lot. He said OK and that was that. I GOT WHAT I CAME TO BUY AND AGAIN TOLD THE LADY AT THE CUSTOMER DESK ABOUT THE PAINT. All they did was look at me like (what am I supposed to do).It is getting to the point where I will have to start going elsewhere to get my things. I have been shopping there at that store for 10 years N HAVE NEVER BEEN LOOKED AT LIKE THAT BEFORE IN MY LIFE.
I had to buy paint thinner to try to get the paint off so I won't track it onto my cement driveway. so now I have brand new tires with one with Red paint on it.
Thank you
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trmn8r on 10/04/2011:
With friction, the paint should dry/sluff off very quickly. With the heat from driving, I don't believe it would have transferred to your driveway once you arrived home.
As far as what HD could do about the situation, all I can think of is to cordon off the area if they felt it was warranted.
You may not realize it, but you can get paint on your tires from freshly painted lines. It goes away so quickly you normally would not notice it.
GenuineNerd on 10/05/2011:
Hopefully it was latex paint that spilled, which should clean up easily from your tires, truck, and driveway. Latex paint should clean up with soap and water. If it was alkyd/oil based paint that spilled, then you would need paint thinner.
oldisgood on 10/05/2011:
the parking lot probably doesn't belong to HD and that is why they didn't remove the paint
HomeDepot_Care on 10/06/2011:
Hi my name is Sheronda and I'm with Home Depot customer care. I apologize for the paint on your tires. How we can assist? Please email me at firstname.lastname@example.com. I'll be happy to help!
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Behr Premium Plus Paint & Primer Really Works
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Let's face it, nobody really enjoys painting. It's a drudgery that you want to complete in the shortest amount of time with the least amount of effort. Having recently moved I wanted to convert one of the small bedrooms into a home office. The walls were painted this gag me ugly hunter green. The kind of color that looked like it would bleed through with anything that you threw at it. I'm old school figuring I'll need a primer plus 2 coats of paint. This is a lot of work. You're painting the same room 3 times. Grrr. Home Depot advertises their Behr Premium Paint & Primer for $33.00 a gallon. Consumer Reports rated it Number One. Tried a sample first of the "Indulgent Mocha PWN-70" (where do they get these names?) before I took the plunge. Seemed to work okay. Fast forward. This paint is thick & odorless with no dripping problems. Easy to work with and clean-up. The first coat covered about 85% of the nasty green with little bleed through. Dry to the touch in 2 hours, repaint after 4 hours. The second coat nailed it to perfection with a rich eggshell finish and NO bleed through. The results were fantastic, I couldn't believe how good it looked. This is high quality paint sold at a reasonable price that works as advertised. Highly Recommended.
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Alain on 11/25/2010:
Behr has a good reputation and I've heard from other folks that like it, too. Good review!
raven2010 on 11/25/2010:
This is the brand my landlord used to repaint my condo a few months ago. MUCH nicer looking than whatever the previous brand was.
I have noticed it is a lot easier to clean scuff marks, etc also
madconsumer on 11/25/2010:
behr is really a great brand of paint.
very helpful.
p.s. I enjoy painting!!!
Venice09 on 11/25/2010:
Thanks so much for posting this, ok4now. I've seen the ads for this paint and wondered if it worked. This is a great testimonial. I would definitely try this based on your review. That's a great price, too!
P.S. My father-in-law was a professional painter and really an artist at his craft. My daughter is the same way. Every time I watch her paint, I imagine her Opa looking down and smiling. :)
Anonymous on 11/25/2010:
I like hunter green, wouldn't want my walls that color though. Behr makes great paint.
sunny08 on 11/26/2010:
I recently purchased my home and wanted to do my own painting. I went to the local Home Depot and they recommnended this brand. I have been hesitate in buying it until I learned more about it. Thank you now if I could only choose my colours
ok4now on 11/27/2010:
Sunny08: Choosing the paint was the easy part. Just so you know the Behr paint & primer is $33.00 a gallon. You can get just the paint without the primer for $22.00 a gallon. Why bother to save $10.00 a gallon and have to use a primer. The really hard part is choosing the color. OMG there are so many choices and you don't want to make a mistake. They literally have hundreds of samples on small patches making it even more difficult. Narrow your choices down & get the samples to try on the area you want to paint. Generally lighter colors work better in small rooms. Again try the samples first.
THD_Daniel on 11/28/2010:
I'm Tinzley with Homedepot's Customer Care Team. Great feedback! Thanks for letting us know.
stuartflorida on 12/31/2010:
I painted my home with the primer paint. It was very easy to work with and goes on well.
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Home Depot Employee Goes Above And Beyond!
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ROANOKE, TEXAS -- I recently decided to repaint my dining room. On three occasions, I had the opportunity to work with Ron in the paint department to select tools and paint to do the job. Ron was a joy to work with!! I wanted a specific color matched and he spent over 30 minutes doctoring the formula to match the color I wanted. Was very patient, even when the first (several) tries didn't quite match. Chatted with us and helped other customers as they came along. He also suggested several tools to make the job easier.
There are many great employees at this location, but Ron stood out in the crowd!!
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MSCANTBEWRONG on 03/18/2008:
It's refreshing to hear of a good experience with Home Depot. I'm glad things worked out for you.
bargod on 03/18/2008:
Good to hear.
Anonymous on 03/18/2008:
BRAVO Ron! BRAVO Home Depot. Thanks for posting this compliment.
sarahnkrystal on 03/18/2008:
Thank you for the compliment. I love hearing good things as well!
Ponie on 03/18/2008:
I'm only guessing the experiences encountered at Home Depot depend on the location. But most people get upset at some inconvenience and have the need to rant. Glad to see you took the time to post this compliment. Hope this gets to Ron.
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BRONX, NEW YORK -- On 1/18/07 I went to the paint area to purchase paint. There were two sales assistants working the area. The one assisting me was mute and unable to communicate beyond a few grunts and had difficulty understanding all of my request. When I asked the other assistant Humberto for help he responded that he was "busy cleaning up and could not assist", I then asked could he not simply answer my question wherein he responded, while "cleaning" in the exact same area that I was in, that "he could not be in two places at once". I then asked to speak with a manager and was told that I needed to go to Customer Service. At Customer Service Assistant Manager "Wendy" was paged. After waiting several minutes a person who looked like she might be employed by Home Depot passed by me. After several more minutes this person passed by me again and went to the Customer Service desk and spoke with the person who paged her. She then approached me, and without identifying herself, asked if I needed help. I responded by asking her had she not noticed me standing there when she first passed by. She stated that she had but she wanted to address the person who "said what they said to me before they left and did I still need help?" I told her yes that was why I was at Customer Service and that I would have expected her to acknowledge my presence before speaking to the attendant. She told me that she was now ready to help me. As we turned to walk toward the paint center she abruptly stopped and said "Wait I forgot something" and walked away to assist another customer waiting in Customer Service. At this point I went back to the initial person in Customer Service and stated that I wanted to see a Manager and not an Assistant Manager and was told that Wendy was the only Manager on duty. After another five minutes Wendy came back all smiles and said "I am ready to help you now". This is my third time at this particular Home Depot and each time the customer service has been dismal.
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MRM on 01/19/2007:
Shame on you, Home Depot, for dismal customer service!
Justusryan on 01/19/2007:
why do you keep going back?
Anonymous on 01/19/2007:
If you want personalized service, you got to go to a True Value, not a big box store.
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People at the painting department at the Home Depot in Woodland Ca were very nice and helpful, especially Charles. Thank you.
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Alain on 04/24/2010:
Give the store manager a call and tell him/her, too!
homedepot_michael on 04/26/2010:
This is Michael from Home Depot Customer Care, I appreciate you taking the time to write about your experience in our Woodland, CA store. I have passed your feedback along to the store management. Hope to see you in our stores again soon.
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CUMBERLAND, GEORGIA -- Upon my visit to Home Depot #0121, your service rep. Ramon was very helpful in fulfilling my request for the paint and matching the exact color I needed. Every time I visit the store, he (Ramon) is very helpful and knowledgeable of his job and the product he is selling.
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Hugh_Jorgen on 05/21/2008:
Your location says Cumberland, GA - if by that you mean the Home Depot near Cumberland Mall in Atlanta, that's the Home Depot of Home Depots.
Their corporate HQ is right across the road and that store always has plenty of highly qualified help. It's like stepping back in time to the early days of HD.
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Paint can not sealed
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JUPITER, FLORIDA -- On 4-05-07 I went to the Home Depot in Jupiter Florida to get some cement paint colored. The fellow in the paint dept did it and then handed the 2 paint cans back to me to put into my cart. I paid for it put the cans in my trunk of my 2005 white avalon which has a supporting net in the trunk. Both cans were in separate Home Depot bags. When I got home 5 miles away and opened the trunk I found that my trunk had 1/4 of the can of paint all over the mat and the net. I went back to Home Depot and talked to a manager about the problem. They review every paint sale on tape and guess what Rick didn't seal 1 can with the rubber mallet. They were nice about refunding my money and giving me a can of paint free. But the cost to replace the black net that is aqua from the paint is
$ 47.50 the firm that handles the claim Kathleen in Atlanta offered me 1/2 the $ 47.50 because she said that I should have checked the can. Guess what, I take the check cash it and then because not only do I have a legal background but my son is a practicing lawyer I will file a suit against Rick and Home Depot and cost me nothing and them a lot more than $ 24.00 too bad because we spent $ 26,942 at Home Depot over the past few years and now it's on to Lowes and I will blast them all over the internet. Dumb people .
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Hugh_Jorgen on 04/26/2007:
Isn't your time worth more than $24.00? Mistakes happen, just move on. No one sees your aqua cargo net anyway - it's in the trunk.
Anonymous on 04/26/2007:
One of our kids dropped a gallon of white paint on our brown carpet some time ago. I feel your pain.
Shakra on 04/26/2007:
If you cashed the check then you have no case. This means that you settled for that amount. Apparently, you two have no connection with legalities. Otherwise, you would know this.
Extended Warranty on 04/26/2007:
What Shakra said.
You can't have an issue, get restitution then decide it wasn't enough and want more.
beachman on 04/26/2007:
you have no idea what the law is about lawyers file things for next to nothing and the defendants have to hire lawyers to defend them. I always get my pound of flesh. If you mess with me you will pay dearly
rhondam718732 on 04/26/2007:
Not sure how them reviewing the paint sales proved he didn't seal one can with the hammer, but I believe it happened. The problem is that once you cash a check you have agreed this is your final restitution. Period. Unless it specifically states it's a partial payment, etc.
Hugh_Jorgen on 04/26/2007:
I have this mental picture of this poster driving slowly around Florida, left blinker constantly on, with just his knuckles visible above the steering wheel, telling everyone who will listen that his son is a lawyer and than if you mess with the beachman you will "pay dearly".
Pomona Guy on 04/26/2007:
Beachman, next time you buy paint check that the lid is sealed by turning the can upside down over the paint department's associates head. And good luck on your lawsuit. Let us know what happens.
poppapia on 04/26/2007:
They admitted their mistake, even after you had left the store, and offered you some compensation. Lawyer's that take BS cases like this are a huge problem in our legal system.
*Brenda* on 04/26/2007:
beachman, I work in a law firm so I do know a thing or two about the law. Apparently it's YOU who has no idea about the law.
Anonymous on 04/26/2007:
beachman, you sound like the type that would file a lawsuit against just about anyone. You cashed the check, which means you accepted HD's offer, just like others have said. Now, if we all pitch in and send you the remaining $24 for a new aqua cargo net, will you drop this and move on?
Anonymous on 04/26/2007:
Ever hear of a nuisance suit?
imjustasteph on 04/26/2007:
I don't blame the OP personally....I would expect my ruined items to be replaced if they were ruined by fault of the cashier....
Trust me I know about stuff being ruined by opened packaging- where we used to live, it seemed like anything you bought from the local Dollar General was either opened or leaky. I took a few items back to have them, often along with items in the same bag that had been ruined by the leak, replaced before I learned that in DG, you always check.
Guess you do the same at HD.
LennyGuy on 04/27/2007:
I always check paint cans when I buy them, even if they are premixed (not done at the store), to make sure they are sealed. I think you were more than fairly treated. You're going to get a lawyer for a $24 claim. Get real. I'm sure an attorney, even your son, is going to get real excited about suing Home Depot for $24.
Starlord on 05/09/2007:
If the failure of the associate was the only cause of the accident, I would agree, he should get the whole $47.50. However, he does have the responsibility to check the lid himself, so this sounds like a case of contributory negligence to me. Beachman needs to watch more TV court shows like Judge Joe Brown or Judge Alex. I have heard every TV judge tell people that not every thing that happens wrong requires litigation. Get real, man!! I don't think you could even prevail on Maria Lopez' Court.
beachman on 05/09/2007:
I took their money and on our next project for our development I went to lowes and Home Depot lost out on a $45,000 purchase. Don't know their profit but I will bet that it wasn't worth $ 27.00
BBast on 05/27/2007:
HD didn't lose any profit from your lost sale. they are better off because you could have gotten a splinter in your finger
beachman on 05/27/2007:
for all you people tht decide to be sheep and just take what you get here is the end result. I got 1/2 the money but after talking to toyota they replaced the damaged parts for free and the manager at Home Depot gave me all the paint I needed for free and I got the money. So take a lesson and open you mouth or just sit back and let the big guys mess with you.
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According to the rules as written, they would cost a Base Power Cost (Training, Page 105), plus the cost as shown in Table 6-8: Unit Types (Page 107).
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Get WotC Files While You Can From Paizo
If you see this on 4/7/09 after about 12 noon (according to Erik Mona), sorry about your luck, but its probably too late.
If you were like me and downloaded a bunch of WotC products from RPGNow, thinking you could download them again up to 5 times if need be, I feel your pain. I hope WotC comes to some resolution and has PDFs available again soon, but one thing's for sure: they continue to fail epically in any sort of customer relations aspect. OK, fight piracy, whatever, but this is a really crappy thing to do to folks who have already bought your products from RPGNow, DTRPG, or Paizo. Especially in regards to 1e & 2e pdfs. Was illegal piracy really killing you on those, WotC? Items that haven't been in print in 3 decades? Do you think this would be a way to fix anything?
I'm irritated. Doubtless things will look a bit brighter or clearer tomorrow. But as a gamer whose main D&D purchases were from previous edition, WotC has just become about 99% less useful to me as a company.
And if you do offers pdfs again, WotC, you can bet I'm not partaking. If this no-notice B.S. happens once, what's to keep you from yanking the rug out again?
23 comments:
- Ron Perkins said...
Snaggin some Birthright stuff.
Up yours, WotC. I spent almost $200 last year in old TSR and 3e PDFs. I've had computer issues, and enjoyed having the online backup of being able to re-download them. You're very quickly progressing down the path TSR once took. And why couldn't you have given us some time to get our files? Afraid we'd hurry up and put them on some file-sharer? This is insulting to the people who actually paid for pdfs rather than steal them. You've hurt no one but loyal customers.
- April 6, 2009 at 9:51 PM
- Chris Meadows said...
I posted about this here:
Best guess is it has to do with the new WotC publishing policies that kick in as of the 6th. Apparently Paizo didn't want to re-up under them.
(Wouldn't be surprised, given some of the stunts WotC has tried to pull in the past, if the new policies included some specific language that would have forced them to give up supporting Pathfinder/3.5ed in order to keep selling WotC stuff.)
- April 6, 2009 at 10:27 PM
Check this out. Skarka talks about some of the negative effects he's seeing already.
As a small-press publisher who had released some d20 items before and was working on a big GSL product, this worries me, but we'll see how it goes.
I'm mad as hell. Well, I was. Then I realized there's just too much other good gaming stuff out there to be down for long. It's just sad that D&D is in the hands of such jerkwads.
- April 6, 2009 at 10:33 PM
- Zachary The First said...
So, then, what's the bigger WotC debacle: the incredible delay and original terms of the GSL, or the no-notice yanking of pdf downloads from paying customers?
- April 6, 2009 at 10:38 PM
- Mad Brew said...
The books will be pirated whether or not WotC offers legal PDFs or not. I can only hope they keep making bad business decisions and eventually have to sell off the IP (wishful thinking, I know).
- April 6, 2009 at 10:41 PM
- Bonemaster said...
I've been trying to not bad mouth WotC. I really have been. Then they do something like this and I don't know what's to say except, I'm glad I don't by WotC anymore.
@Zachary - I want to say it's a toss up but I think this will have more negative effects than the GSL debacle ever will.
- April 6, 2009 at 10:50 PM
- Ron Perkins said...
Paizo is dragging tonight! Lot of folks trying to get in before the bell.
Again, a pox on WotC. Keep your boat people halflings and lame-ass Silver Wyvern Strikes (aka "hack" and "slash"). It isn't worth this. We are officially through.
- April 6, 2009 at 10:51 PM
- Zachary The First said...
@Bonemaster: I know what you mean. I don't currently play 4e, but I've tried to be as open as possible to that system. I still don't have anything against 4e players or the game. But WotC? WotC can get bent.
- April 6, 2009 at 10:58 PM
I had at least 10 PDFs I purchased from DTRPG that I really would have liked to have downloaded on this computer, as my other one is sitting some 1200 miles away, packed up. Ah well, I guess I shouldn't have procrastinated. But WotC won't be getting any more of my money. I've been moving away from them anyways. It has been one failure after another. Where are my "low-price" pdfs from purchasing 4e?
- April 6, 2009 at 11:57 PM
- Zachary The First said...
For those of you looking for a new system, Green Ronin just dropped True20 to $9.99:
I've seen a couple of people speculate this is a ploy to kill legacy D&D sales in an attempt to kill old-edition sales, but why kill 4e PDFs along with that? And would old-school products really hurt WotC that much?
- April 7, 2009 at 12:34 AM
- Frederic said...
Has anyone asked them for a reaction?
- April 7, 2009 at 4:50 AM
- Frederic said...
WotC that is
- April 7, 2009 at 4:54 AM
- Alexander said...
There was a post from a WotC rep in the thread on EN World. Page 5 I think, or somehting like that.
- April 7, 2009 at 5:19 AM
- Zachary The First said...
@Frederic: Yep, one of their employees on pg. 5 said it was due to piracy. That's in line with the press releases we've seen.
I imagine regular WotC employees are cringing today!
- April 7, 2009 at 7:26 AM
- Mad Brew said...
I just received an email from Paizo stating that we have until noon PST to download any WotC books you have already purchased.
- April 7, 2009 at 7:28 AM
- Frederic said...
quite funny/tragic: I'd never seen these pdf's, I didn't know Paizo/anyone was selling these things. I missed out!
- April 7, 2009 at 7:31 AM
- Mad Brew said...
@Zachary: It most likely is a knee-jerk reaction to piracy, as "Wizards of the Coast has filed three lawsuits in the U.S. District Court for the Western District of Washington against eight defendants located in the United States, Poland and the Philippines alleging copyright infringement of its recently released Dungeons & Dragons Player's Handbook 2"
- April 7, 2009 at 7:32 AM
- Alexander said...
Sounds more like a pretext to me, to veil the "let's remove 3E material so they need to buy our 4E stuff and subscribe to insider if they want e-books" move.
- April 7, 2009 at 7:48 AM
- James V said...
Pay attention, WoTC. If you take away the possibility to buy legit digital copies the only method left to obtain them is piracy. I don't see how this will prevent copyright infringement. I wouldn't be surprised if right now there are angry former customers stripping all the DRM/Watermarks from their recent downloads and trying to find a way to get them shared out of sheer spite.
There's speculation that this is being done so WoTC could have total control of the product and sell the files themselves. Likely with tougher DRM. I predict that if this happens, their sales will be paltry compared to before, and they'll just complain that it was because of "those darn pirates!". They won't even consider that it had to do with they way they're handling things now.
Dumb, dumb, dumb.
- April 7, 2009 at 9:22 AM
- Ed said...
If this is in response to Piracy, some lawyers have a serious case of HuR disease... you don't slow piracy by removing all legitimate copies of an item from the market.
- April 7, 2009 at 9:23 AM
I don't get it?
They're not printing any of the old stuff, they don't affect any WOTC products. It certainly doesn't help the RPG community as a whole and for historical gaming purposes they've shot themselves in the foot. It has stopped me from completing my own pdf collection of gaming materials from TSR. And all because 4th edition is so crappy that they want to deprive the gaming community of some (rather) basic yet somehow superior materials.
I wont be playing 4th edition, so they'll be getting no sales from me. The only way i can get these materials is now through piracy, ironic rather isn't it?!
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