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Food Trucks 2013
Now that summer is at our door, maybe we would need a special thread for all food truck related news?
- Les 1er vendredi @ Parc Olympique is starting again tomorrow. Didn't find the list of participating trucks but I know Mr Crémeux (Martin Juneau) and Dispatch will be there.
- Just found that funding campaign for a new cheese truck: http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/le-.... Good idea!
re: Maximilien
how could they ask for money without any kind of assurance that they will have a permit.
re: catroast
I was going to ask what restaurant or catering business these guys work for because of the current qualifications for a food truck in Montreal.
If they don't have either of those things going for them, I'm with catroast, how can backers be assured that this will work out?
re: catroast
I'm no expert, but my understanding of crowdfunding is that backers can set their own criteria for how they give their money, and some won't give their money unless the thing is about to get up and running concretely. On the flip side, even if a project misses it's fundraising goal, backers who really believe in it can still choose to give their money anyway and hope it works (this is somewhat common, I'm told, when it's backing a theatre production or such, where no backer expects profits or benefits anyway).
This is actually a really good use of crowdfunding: to start a small business with a plan and model (though I haven't watched the video). But as has been pointed out, he hasn't got a snowball's chance in hell with the city without some kind of restaurant affiliation.
re: Shattered
I hate to say this, but part of me hopes that with current restrictions the city is putting on who gets to have a food truck, that the whole project fails so they can see that this model doesn't work. Food trucks are a good way for up-and-coming entrepeneurs to offer something new and unique without having to worry about the influx of capital one needs to open a bricks-and-mortar restaurant first. Because, IMHO, that's the whole point. New and cool food things happen like this because you can't afford your restaurant yet. If it's just going to be the same old iterations of places already established....well, as a poster pointed out previously in the other food trucks thread, who wants to pay for a potentially pricey street version of resto dish just so you can eat it on a paper plate?
re: Peaches to Poutine
Who said you need to have a restaurant first? Why could they not just rent a space in a professional/legal kitchen to prepare their food?
re: Glaff
"For food safety, the trucks chosen will have to be associated with an already established restaurant."
re: chilipepper
Yep, I remember that being one of the restrictions too.
That's ridiculous. It doesn't give upstarts a fighting chance. The city is not quite getting the idea of what a food truck "scene" is supposed to be. It may take a while before we get the diversity we want.
re: Peaches to Poutine
Many successful food trucks in NYC started out as a truck!
re: marblebag
Precisely. I have always thought of food trucks as a way for someone to get started and do something neat yummy things, making regulations or framework like this off the bat discourages that.
re: marblebag
Exactly! Franklin's, possibly the most popular BBQ restaurant in the US (according to some sources) was still a truck 2 years ago. I suspect it wouldn't be where it is today without these modest beginnings.
re: Fintastic
Ah, Austin.
And you are correct re: how their success bloomed from a food truck.
re: OliverB
nevermind the fact that they aren't allowed cooking food on the truck. so what are they going to do, serve mac and cheese from a warming tray? oh montreal, you never cease to fail.
re: catroast
Never heard of grilled cheese? Don't care much about the video or the strategy, if they want to promote Quebec cheese with their truck, that's not a bad idea.
re: OliverB
The Cheese Truck is being launched this Friday. I don't understand how can they run it in front of other restaurants on Notre Dame?
It will be parked in front of Joe Beef & Liverpool etc during prime time. How rude can the invite be, is having a grilled cheese now considered a privilege?
I haven't tried any of the food trucks yet and from what I have been reading & hearing, I think I will wait
Their tweet: Join Le Cheese in celebration of the official launch of Le Cheese Food Truck!
June 14th - 7pm -10pm
2515 Rue Notre-Dame O.
Only confirmed invites can come. So Please confirm, we don't like maybes'.
re: InterFoodie
Nothing to write home about, they are just doing their "launch" at that address...
re: InterFoodie
I never take the invite-only stuff seriously, it's just to try to build hype. If they have an open post or event on facebook or twitter or whatever, anyone can show up. And if they actually did turn people away after letting anyone & everyone know about, well they'd sure be getting off on the right foot customer service wise (not).
Anyway, times are tough - or maybe hosts are just getting stingier or realize they can charge at these events, but in any case times have changed. Freebies are way down unless it's an event that's truly exclusive. 5 years ago even broke-ass hipster galleries would feed you wine all night at openings. Now the same all charge $4 a bottle of beer. Restaurant or beverage launches all charge you for drinks and food now, too - even the stuff they're launching.
Everything changed after the crash of 08/09, mes amis.
re: InterFoodie
cheese truck vs restaurant requiring 1 month reservation
rude how exactly?
Rosemont Petite-Patrie announced this morning that they've partnered with l'Association des restaurateurs de rue du Québec to start testing street food this summer in the neighborhood in some events and parks.
here is an op-ed in vice of all places about the food truck plan http://www.vice.com/en_ca/read/montre...
re: catroast
It's a bit soon to say that. And anyway we're still in the test period, before everything becomes official.
I still hope that you actually can have a truck if you just rent a space in a real professional kitchen to prepare your food. If not, that would mean Grumman, the people who helped bring back street food here, would have been illegal in their first years?!
He's saying it in the article, Vancouver, Calgary and Toronto (especially Toronto) all had problems at first and are now trying to fix things. And is that guy really expecting street food here to be like Bangkok, Mexico City or Kerala?! Seriously? Cause yeah, they're REALLY the same kind of city...
re: Glaff
i don't think he suggested we have vendors lining the streets cooking insects on grates covering on-fire steel barrels. the take home message was that applebaum completely missed the spirit of street food - that it shouldn't be the equivalent of a take away window at a trendy restaurant. It should be equitable and democratic.
re: catroast
"i don't think he suggested we have vendors lining the streets cooking insects on grates covering on-fire steel barrels."
But that would be way cool.
re: Glaff
But so far, that's exactly the problem. Right now you can't rent space in a professional kitchen in order to have a food truck. It makes the offerings skewed towards people who have already been established and not upstarts.
Again, I desperately hope the bylaws change in favor of entrepeneurs, and not restauranteurs who feel menaced by something that is being done successfully and awesomely by other North American cities. There's enough room in the pool for everyone. To complain otherwise just shows you can't change with the times or accept something cool and new.
re: Peaches to Poutine
I hope too and I believe it can happen. As I said we're just in the testing phase.
But at the same time, isn't it really easy to also offer simple catering service if it gives you the right to have a truck?
re: Glaff
it's the quebec nanny state in full swing. if they can ban or restrict it, they will. the humans cannot be trusted.
re: Peaches to Poutine
This morning in La Presse (from MC Lortie):
"Plus tôt cette semaine, dans un article publié sur le site de la revue Vice, un journaliste a accusé le programme montréalais qui prendra vie le 20 juin prochain d'exclure les moins nantis, et par le fait même la multiplicité culturelle, car il oblige les camions ambulants à avoir une cuisine de production fixe avec adresse officielle, permis obligatoires et le compte de taxe foncière qui accompagne nécessairement tout ça. Trop cher tout ceci, arguait-on. Prohibitif.
J'ai posé la question à Gaelle Cerf, une des fondatrices du Grumman78, pionnière, presque pilote en chef du projet, de ramener la cuisine de rue à Montréal après 66 ans, et elle ne s'en est pas émue. Deux mois après le démarrage du camion de tacos, il y avait déjà une «cuisine de prod» à Saint-Henri, rappelle-t-elle. Même à New York, où les stands minimalistes sont légion, rares sont ceux qui n'ont aucune base fixe.
Par contre, plusieurs entreprises choisissent de partager les frais en ouvrant des cuisines de production communes, d'où chacun part avec son propre camion et son propre produit pour le vendre dans les rues. À Montréal, de tels projets sont en train de se préparer."
re: Glaff
Once again Gaelle shows she knows how to manage the press but doesn't know the facts. In NYC, "by city law, every food cart and truck must visit a licensed commissary each day..." It isn't rare to not have a fixed base, it's against the law.
More details here: http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/12/mag...
re: EaterBob
The timing of these articles is uncanny.
New foodtruck starting tonight at Parc Olympique:
Landry et Filles
re: Glaff
I ate at @landryetfilles today at Molson Park during the local St-Jean picnic event. Everything sounded good but I settled on the following.
Fried chicken (7.5$): thin cut of chicken breast lightly breaded then deep fried. Since I had the first order it was freshly made. Served with a curry sauce. Typical truck price makes this a monthly return but it was very good, 8/10
Melon, tomato, basil salad (4.5$): you can do better at home, 5/10.
Chocolate whoopie pie with vanilla cream: thick whoopie pie with a very sweet cream filling. My favorite is from Two Fat Cats (Portland, ME) so this gets a 7/10.
If the planets are aligned I will try the meatloaf sandwich and ploye de crevettes tonite.
I skipped the So6 and Winnieburger trucks. I ate fries from a canteen (not a truck) that I forgot the name but it's painted yellow.
re: marblebag
were they frying the chicken on the truck? and if not, what of the crispiness?
re: marblebag
Ploye de crevettes sounds great.
Was the party fun? I might go later. But usually the most fun event in this neck of the woods is the Villeray event on the steps of Ste-Cécile church, with good up-and-coming-bands, but food and drink are supplied by local merchants, or community associations.
Also nearby, tomorrow there will be a multicultural family day at Parc Pierre-Marquette, with foods from many cultures - I suspect more basic foods are free, especially for the kiddies, provided by the community group hosting the event (La Maisonnée).
Others will be sold starting at noon:
12 h 00 La Grande Tablée interculturelle : mets d'ici et d'ailleurs
Kiosques de vente et dégustation
I don't know whether there will be any food trucks.
re: lagatta
The chicken was fried on the truck which makes it less of a scam than @SaigonQC where everything is already cooked.
Molson park is very small but it attracted the same number of people than at Marche Atwater.
I work tomorrow so will miss some of the other trucks at Parc Maisonneuve. I'll make it up with a trip to NYC next weekend.
re: marblebag
I had the ploye which is a buckwheat crepe with Matane shrimp and some salad on top. It's a bit filling at 9$, 8/10.
Yesterday at Parc Olympic I tried the crab cake scotched egg which I liked, 9.75$. The soft boiled still had a runny yolk which melds very well with the crab cake. 9/10
The lime/cucumber/melon popsicle is as refreshing as it sounds. It's what I have in my water at home so I'm going to just make it myself next time. 3$
re: marblebag
I had the fish'n'chips at Landry et filles yesterday for lunch. 8$ gave me more food than Comptoir 21's 11$ offering.
They are trying to organize a cooking space/truck meeting somewhere in Plaza St-Hubert for next month.
Full list of trucks that will be serving at Premiers Vendredis today: http://www.facebook.com/cuisinederue....
Here's a list of the new ones for this summer with some details (from www.mixeur.tv/actualite/la-cuisine-de...):
Meatball Mtl : boulettes de viande
Nomade S06 : saucisses
Chauds dogs : hot-dogs artisanaux
Caffe Della Via : cafés
Tuktuk : cuisine thaïlandaise
Landry et Filles : crêpes de sarrasins farcies
P-A et Gargantua : grilled cheeses de luxe
Smooth Fruit : smoothies de fruits frais
Saigon je me souviens : menu à confirmer
Roux : menu à confirmer
Le Super Truck : volaille (poulet, chapon, etc.
)Norman Luncheonette urbaine : concept bœuf et œuf (sandwichs)
Fous'truck : viennoiseries (desserts) – (Fous desserts)
re: catroast
They do have bahn mi, but look at the price for it: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fb.... It better be the best bahn mi you've ever eaten...
re: Glaff
Those rolls are twice what they should be, too (somehow doubt that's a heaping bowl of vermicelli, either). More proof, if any were needed, that this food truck thing Montreal-style is just a scam. Charging more than if you sat in the restaurant itself for the novelty - completely missing the point.
re: Shattered
4 rolls for 2$? Nah... I've never seen that in any vietnamese restaurants.
Some trucks are too expensive yes, but a scam? No, absolutely not, if you actually tried some... most of these people really know what they do and the quality is there.
re: catroast
Gee-Whizz ... tough crowd...
Let them adjust...
re: twinkie83
the thing about food trucks is time is money so you can save on that by not having to go into resto or find fast food place+ have the option of sitting outside in good weather. Few people tip so you can save on that so worth factoring in and frankly quatlity and taste count for something.
re: mangoannie
the tradeoff is that the operating costs, apart from the initial truck expense, are very low. if a brick and mortar bahn mi joint can do it for $3-4, surely a truck could, no? hopefully their bahn mi is great - i'll try my guess is it will be similar to the vietnamese mall chain
re: EaterBob
re: hungryann
I'd spend a lot on a food truck meal, at a festival, because i'm not there all the time and it would be a novelty.
At my lunchtime, why would i pay more for a food truck than i would in a fast food/pick up counter? I'd do it once but i would soon return to my usual routine joints.
re: SourberryLily
You're really asking us why you would pay more for good food made with quality ingredients when you can have something cheaper at a fast food restaurant?
re: SourberryLily
At a festival, there's also usually a significant fee charged by the organizer that much be recouped.
re: SourberryLily
It's a scam not because of quality - at that price, quality better be there. It's a scam because they're charging way more for the exact same thing you'd get in any of their restaurants. Very noticeable more, like 25%-50%+, when it should be the exact opposite.
Plus the quality (& dining experience) can't be as good as the restaurants, especially with the rules constraining them from actually cooking onboard.
Lastly a scam because the restaurants that have been approved make loads of dough already -some of the most well-known in the city, like APDC and Marche 27- when foodtrucks are meant to help startups. Dispatch Coffee is the only true food truck startup I know of, and she's only serving coffee and cookies (& had to attach herself to coffee wholesalers with a brick & mortar location to get approval, and has a city-mandated fixed address in a well-hidden warehouse most days).
Sourberry's post points to why this will unfortunately fly, however: they target the festivals. Ppl are used to paying an arm and a leg for food in those places - the PdA area sucks for fast good lunch choices even at the best of times - and compared with similarly price-gouging hotdogs or pizza slices, the food trucks look like a breath of fresh air. Not to mention the suburban crowds at festivals have no conception of real street food nor what restaurants charge in the real world outside the waste island or brossard, either.
It is a complete and utter scam, through and through.
Montreal should not only have food trucks, they should have food *carts* all over the core, just like Ottawa and Toronto. It's pretty sad when Ontario is kicking our asses on something like this, something gritty, entrepreneurial and real, which what Montreal is supposed to be good at.
re: Shattered
Shattered points out what I have been saying all along about our "food trucks."
"--when foodtrucks are meant to help startups."
When established restaurants have food trucks, that excites me not one bit. I too would feel ripped off. If I wanted to visit that restaurant, I would do so. I want food trucks that offer innovation from new start-ups, not reiterations from restaurants because then it feels like the playing field is very very very skewed.
But then I've started to learn that a love of bureaucracy and making sure the actual restaurateurs are happy trump anything "gritty, entrepreneurial and real."
Here's a well-stated and concise take on lifting the street food ban. It echoes many of the sentiments expressed on this board. Give it a read, even if you might be predisposed to avoid Vice.
re: foodinspace
Well-stated and concise with the notable exception of criticizing food trucks of 'cultural appropriation'.
re: foodinspace
I don't think it is concise, and the prose is beyond purple. Moreover he is using 4-letter-words for no reason. I'm no prude about "bad words" but they should be used for emphasis. He does have a point, but it gets lost in his overwrought writing.
The city just announced the 9 sites where they will test street food this summer:
Parc du Mont-Royal near the belvédère
Parc du Mont-Royal near the statue
Square Victoria
Place du Canada
Cité multimédia
On Victoria near musée McCord
On McTavish near McGill
Place Émilie-Gamelin
On Peel near the ETS
re: catroast
highly doubt it..parc is one of the busiest streets..maybe if they reduce the parking section that is 100m away from the statue otherwise there really isnt any place for a food truck
ets seems like a pretty bad location
re: kpaxonite
Yeah, they just said "à proximité"... I doubt it's by the statue or just in front on Park.
I was thinking the same about the ETS location... even thought we would probably be happy if we were working/studying there as there is absolutely nothing around.
re: SourberryLily
probably in the vacant lot in front of the old planetarium. a weird place to say the least. there's nothing there. if the food trucks project fail, we can see why
edit: there's more details on radio-canada. 2 places near ETS between st-jacques and notre-dame on the east side of peel which means on the old planetarium
re: twinkie83
Hmm well i could see this place being a success once the ETS finishes with refurbishing the Planetarium and something is done with the lot opposite to it.
Until then, lets hope the food is cheap enough to lure the students for a bite!
re: SourberryLily
there's of independently wealthy people in that neighbourhood that don't seem to work all day and have money to burn. just based on the amount of prepared for available at the nearby grocery store, it seems like food trucks are a good fit for the neighbourhood.
but why no concordia!?
re: catroast
i'm guessing because food around concordia is dirty cheap. food trucks would have a hard time competing there
re: twinkie83
that's very unlikely
re: catroast
I'd guess no Concordia because no space. And I'm guessing the Parc / statue one will be off the street, on the pavement between the street and the statue.
re: kpaxonite
That stretch of du Parc is 4 lanes. It almost always moves quickly and is already closed to parking during rush hour. Plus there is no parking around the statue already - there is a bus stop. Unfortunately the park is already terribly polluted by the end of the weekend without food trucks. Hopefully the city will compensate with many more garbage cans.
re: catroast
You know I don't think they chose this spot without looking before if there was any places for 2 trucks...
more details from RC on the locations
-Parc du Mont-Royal, près du belvédère Kondiaronk (deux emplacements)
-Parc du Mont-Royal, à proximité du monument à Sir George-Étienne-Cartier (deux emplacements sur le côté ouest de l'avenue du Parc)
-Square Victoria (deux emplacements sur le côté nord de la rue Saint-Antoine Ouest, à l'ouest de la rue Gauvin)
-Place du Canada (deux emplacements rue de la Cathédrale, au sud du boulevard René-Lévesque Ouest)
-Cité du multimédia (deux emplacements rue de la Commune Ouest, au sud de l'intersection des rues Brennan et Prince)
-Rue Victoria, près du Musée McCord (un emplacement sur le côté est de la rue Victoria, entre la rue Sherbrooke Ouest et l'avenue du Président-Kennedy)
. Rue McTavish, près de l'Université McGill (un emplacement sur le côté ouest de la rue McTavish, au nord de la rue Sherbrooke Ouest)
-Place Émilie-Gamelin (trois emplacements)
-Rue Peel, près de l'École de technologie supérieure (deux emplacements sur le côté est de la rue Peel, entre les rues Saint-Jacques Ouest et Notre-Dame Ouest)
re: EaterBob
it will depend on what a bureaucrat's child wants to eat at the park on sunday.
re: EaterBob
The only info I found on that:
Du 20 juin au 29 septembre, de 7 h à 22 h, 7 jours sur 7, jusqu'à 17 camions de cuisine de rue se partageront un horaire de trois quarts de travail, en rotation, dans le but de fournir dans tous les secteurs une offre culinaire diversifiée.
re: chilipepper
probably have a heater or something. you just need a warm place to keep the fried stuff crispy
cheesetruck still being built in Ontario will be hitting streets end of this month, can go on FB to check locations, comfort foods of childhood , using some quebec cheeses +changes in menu over summer
re: mangoannie
At the Just for Laughs new souk I tried the mac&cheese from the Cheese truck. It is a steal at 4.50$ for the small one and they lightly grill it to make a nice burn on one side.
re: mangoannie
Indian truck?
re: Glaff
It's official, Au pied de cochon will have its food truck soon. Details will be revealed here https://mobile.twitter.com/cuisineder...
Is there one site where you can track down the food truck than go to individual sites. We did track down taco truck this weekend at Peel Basin, kind of odd place as no place to sit to eat food (so we headed off to Old Montreal). I know some of them are popping up already at different places but it would be good to have one website to check ahead.
re: mangoannie
There's www.streetfoodmtl.com, but it is not a great site (kind of crappy IMO).
re: Maximilien
This site at times is so frustrating to navigate.
re: mangoannie
That could be useful: https://twitter.com/mayssamaha/montre...
3 of the food trucks were at place des arts today to be featured in live ctv canada AM show featuring montreal (its online if anyone interested)and owner of taco truck mentioned they now have 32 members in their association. They made some samples for the weatherman and I got one of the extras from the lucky truck, have to say the poutine with confit canard was delicious and the contents of sandwich (included beet, lightly breaded cheese) melted in your mouth -and portion size was good for a lunch.
re: mangoannie
What were the prices like?
re: mangoannie
gonna need to see some pics to judge portion sizes for my self less subjectively
re: Ghostquatre
" portion size was good for a lunch."
you're a glass half full kinda person aren't you ;)
re: catroast
hmm, judging by the internet sarcasm (which is quite hard to gauge on text), I would be more inclined to think that you meant that I'm more of a glass half empty person.
Anyways, this has nothing to do with optimism and pessimism, I just like to be objective with things that can be still be objectively measured (unlike quality and taste).
L'association des restaurateurs de rue du Québec launched their new website this week: http://cuisinederue.org/
Some new trucks (most of them without any informations for now):
- Guru
- Phoenix 1
- Les Brigands
- Café Larue & Fils
- Quai Roulant
- Le Point sans G
- Dim Sum Mtl
- Pied de cochon
re: Glaff
Guru was the Indian truck (with hanging beads!) that was in Old Montreal for cultural festival. I like the variety of menus and decor; and think it will be good for tourism--had outoftowners with me recently and they want to try the food trucks and we found two! I hope they will change menu on occasion.
re: mangoannie
sounds like guru is probably related to chef guru on st laurent
General question since I'm too far off at work to try them ...
So, how are they doing ?
Does the fixed location work ?
Is the "normal" (*) people buying into the concept ?
Has the weather been a factor ? (maybe too early to say)
(*) not the foodie blogger chowhound reader type ...
I don't see any mention of this new truck on here. Anyone try it yet?
La Sandwicherie Zoe's
re: JerkPork
It's La Mangeoire from last year. They just changed the name and design.
re: Glaff
Speaking of the menu, it's $9-10 for a sandwich. Just a sandwich.
That's unheard of in this city outside those 'gourmet burger' places, which are also rip-offs. Now, I've never tried it, I don't know the owners, it's nothing personal, but like I said above...
Scam scam scam scam scam scam scam!!!!
re: Shattered
I think posters would do well to recall that scams involve fraud and deception... at the most what yo uare referring to is a rip-off and you only have yourself to blame if you overpay.
re: kpaxonite
well said
re: kpaxonite
Exactly... seriously Shattered, just don't try them if you think it's too expensive. It's not because a truck sells 10$ sandwich that a truck like Winneburger next to him cannot sell its burgers for 4.95$.
We get it, you probably hate the idea of food trucks being a "trend" right now, but stop screaming "SCAM!!!!" every time you see one.
re: Glaff
But no-one sells burgers for $5 at the trucks, that's my point. The fries cost almost that much at the ones offering them.
Scam vs. rip-off is just semantics to me. Putting prices up front doesn't make it less of a scam if you're marketing to an ignorant and fairly captive audience at the festivals.
More importantly, it's absolutely shameful how difficult they've made it for low capital, less prominent or start up food providers to get in the game. The system is completely rigged, like everything else in this intellectual and democratic backwater. I'm just amazed they haven't banned turbans on board as a safety issue, too.
re: Shattered
I agree that it's a rip-off.
Just that scam has a legal connotations, so semantics are quite important here.
re: SourberryLily
the city is the scammer
the business owners are the ripper-offers
re: catroast
You're right, the city as SO MUCH to win by doing it that way. And let's not forget how they all force us to buy from these food trucks.
re: catroast
socialism vs free market libertarianism
the business owners are the scamming lobbyists
the city is pawns
re: Shattered
Winneburger's cheeseburger was 4.95$ last time I saw them. And chips at 2.50$.
And for your information, the pilot has not even started officially yet. At least give them a chance to test it first and bring changes if it's not working properly.
re: Glaff
I could see these prices working at large gatherings like the festivals where there's not much else to eat and it's a novelty and convenience to have them there.
I can't see them being very successful when they are at random locations with those prices, a few really exceptional ones will probably do well. I guess, we'll see. I noticed one on the waterfront near de la Commune/Da Emma a few weeks ago at 7pm on a Saturday night when it was still nice outside, There weren't many people around.
re: JerkPork
basically, at PdA during summer. personally, i'd walk to chinatown which is just around the corner. anyway, it's good for sampling and if some people are willing to pay those prices, it's their prerogative
re: JerkPork
Exactly my opinion as well.
At those prices, it would not make my regular, every day routine for a fast meal.
re: Shattered
Sandwiches are already between 6 an 12 bucks in any bakery or pastry shop. I don't see why they are scam. Very Expensive yes.
Now are these sandwiches out of this world? then why not.
I don't believe it's a 356/year business.
re: maj54us
lol i'd actually rather eat a good $10-12 sandwich with no sides out on the street than sit elbow to elbow after waiting 45 minutes for a seat at olive et gourmando
re: Shattered
I tried the Maine sandwich from La Mangeoire (now Zoe's) last summer and it was delicious, not overpriced considering the ingredients and a very good bun.
re: Shattered
You'll be hard pressed to find a 5$ burger in NYC where there is a lot of competition. Yes you can get a chicken and rice halal dish for 6$ but it's not the same deal.
APDC just opened up a food truck this week. I dont this I saw it mentionned here so here it is.
Their fb page : https://www.facebook.com/CamionPDC?fr...
Yesterday was opening day, anybody tried it? Too far for me to go for lunch :/ They're at square victoria tonight I think.
re: sophie.brunet
Menu isnt that exciting , maple soda, foie gras poutine and some pork sandwich in a donut.. All sounds gross on a hot summer day. Oh and a sweet donut for 4$(+tax. tip)... Yay exciting.... I think I just dont like apdc in general.. Im not into food covered in fat anymore
re: jay_81k
That's the way to go! Been open for less than 24 hours, didn't try it, don't even like their restaurant, but still find a way to complain!
By the way, if you leave tip at a take out place, that's your choice. But you sure don't have to. Even more if you buy just a donut...
re: Glaff
Haha youre right, I shouldnt complain without trying it, I think Im just annoyed at the fact that only existing restaurants can have a food truck in the first place, and Im not a fan of most of those restaurants so why would I want to go to their truck.. Ill probably end up trying the apdc one regardless though...
re: jay_81k
I know, but still, the offer is not that bad considering it's the first year.
re: sophie.brunet
Tried it yesterday. They're still working out the kinks organizationally, as it took a while to fill my order, but the food is true to the PDC tradition.
On the salé side, the poutine foie gras for $7 was a great deal (with two large pieces of foie gras) and the portion size is just right for lunchtime. The beigne cochon for $6 plus an extra buck for cheese featured great quality meat, which has always been a hallmark of PDC; in this case it was smoked meat. The donut was light and slightly sweet. Add in the honey mustard dressing, and I would say food-wise they've perfected their recipe. There was also bbq duck leg on offer (1 for $3 or 2 for $5) that looked amazing, but I didn't have room.
On the sucré side, I didn't try the maple soda or the maple float, nor did I try the beigne dessert filled with fresh fruits and crème patissière. I'll give them a try next time.
All in all, I'm glad to see PDC in the food truck mix - I hope it inspires all of the food trucks to aim for good quality eats!
re: saved94
Me too! I'm gonna try them tonight maybe :)
re: sophie.brunet
It's tomorrow night they're at Victoria Square according to their fb page.
re: sophie.brunet
Donut with rhubarb and whipped cream (4$): rhuibarb is not my favorite flavor but if it was strawberry inside (promised for next week) it would be a hit. I would maybe eat it again if it was free, 7/10.
Donut with custard and maple icing (4$): this was definitely better because the donut was still warm and the icing oozed all over. There is too much custard however so the last few bites were too rich, a APdC attribute. I wanted to get off my bus home to go back and get more, 9/10.
Donut with meat (6$): plain donut with mustard and meats. I received pulled pork, smoked meat, white ham all chopped up and slices of tongue (forgot which animal, probably pig). A great sandwich I would order again, 9/10.
Carb induced coma: free.
re: marblebag
I had APDC in Victoria Square on June 20 right when they opened (which was 30-40 mins later than advertised). The line was nearing the end of the block by the time they began serving, and I feel like even then things weren't quite ready:
- Duck legs w/ maple bbq sauce: These were quite large and a steal at $5 for 2. They had great flavour and tender meat, but the extreme stickiness of the sauce made them a difficult meal to eat on the run. I really liked the use of disposable wooden plates for this dish. If not for the stickiness I might have kept it!
- Cochon Bignè: Based on marblebag's report, it seems like this dish might change regularly. I had a generous (2+ inch thick) pile of smoked pork on a plain donut with honey mustard and cheese. The donut was pre-cooked and not very warm, but still very delicious. The meat, however, was either not fully warmed or meant to be served cold. At luke-warm the sandwich was not as good as I suspect it could be ($6+$1 for cheese).
All-in-all, a great value but with some opening day jitters. My wait was 45 minutes including the delayed start, but I was near the front of the line.
re: Fintastic
It was rainy yesterday so at 15 minutes after opening there was no line to wait. The cheese is now 2$ extra on that sandwich.
re: sophie.brunet
Ok so I gave in and tried the apdc truck yesterday. I tried the pork sandwich, the meat reminded me of eating smoked meat, I believe there was three different kinds of meat in there but not sure, they were slightly dry but still pretty good. The bread was better than I thought it was going to be as well. It kind of reminded me of eating a much better version of a wilensky sandwich. Overall I enjoyed it, although I was starving. One isn't enough to fill you up though. Id probably go back..
The truck next to it (Landry & FIls) didnt seem interesting at all, had no desire to try it..
re: jay_81k
I'm not quite sure I can wrap my head around the idea that you think a pulled pork sandwich on a doughnut is similar to a fried bologna sandwich in between two onion rolls bottoms. :-)
re: EaterBob
Its not really a pulled pork sandwich at all. atleast not like one that Ive ever had, I know its a weird comparison but thats what I thought while I was eating it. Although I havent had Wilensky's in almost 10 years.
re: jay_81k
I obviously am in the minority. Or perhaps you are Sarah Musgrave in a different form. In tomorrow's Gazette she also makes a connection between a Wilensky's Special and the beigne cochon.
re: EaterBob
have you ever had either?
re: catroast
Many times, grasshopper... Many times.
Contrary to your belief that everyone must think the "proper" way. I am prone to preferring when there is a variety of different perspectives that can then be discussed and contemplated. Instead of being consumed brainlessly like a Big Mac.
re: EaterBob
Oh nice! Maybe she's secretly on chowhound and read my post :>
re: jay_81k
She also claims that like the Special, the PDC sandwiches are small enough that an adult could consume two. Unless the sizing has changed over the last 10 days that seems a bit optimistic: I was running on a very empty stomach and could barely get through 2 wings and the sandwich. It really is a massive amount of pork: certainly more meat than Schwartz's loads on their sandwiches.
re: Fintastic
I could easily eat 2-3 actually.. It was a decent pile of meat but for some reason not so filling. I was starving though when I had it.
re: jay_81k
Is it just me or is that picture of the sandwich not flattering at all?
Does it look better in real life?
re: SourberryLily
Ya it's a little sloppy. I'm actually in line waiting for one right now. Taking forever ! I got the duck leg as well...
re: jay_81k
was it good?
re: SourberryLily
The duck leg was quite good, the sandwich was a little worse than the first time I had it, portion seemed a bit smaller , meat was a tad dry and the donut/bread was slightly stale. Overall though I like it. They were nice and gave me a free maple float for waiting so long. Unfortunately I didnt enjoy it at all, most likely because I dont drink soda. I ended up just grabbing a spoon and eating just the ice cream.
And once again the truck next to it (st viateur) got no business at all.
I went to P.A. et Gargantua next to the Canal for the first time for lunch today and it was great :D I got the Bacon, extra-extra-thick-cut bacon, 2 layers of cheese and fried onions. Wasn't a big fan of the rhubarb and pink pepper soda though, next time will try the peach and yuzu. I'll definitely be going back to try the veggie (w/salsa & cilantro) and Gargantuan (3 layers w/chili). And more bacon :)
As for the prices, yeah it's more expensive than your typical cheap cantine/fast food resto place but at least you get your money's worth imo. And like someone else said I'd rather pay a few dollars more and not have to wait around at a fancy restaurant.
Also I really want to encourage all food trucks here in MTL so even if it's more expensive I'll go to a truck instead, they're starting off the food truck movement again so they have to prove that food trucks can make good food but of course that costs more money. So I'm willing to pay to support them.
re: Chocolatesa
I love P.A. et Gargantua too. The vegetarian one is delicious, it comes with a sour cream sauce. But yes, unfortunately it's too expensive... I know it's quality (all made with l'Île aux Grues cheddar and great bread), but for the size of the sandwich, it's a little bit too much, they should adjust.
re: Chocolatesa
Had the bacon grilled cheese at @PA_Gargantua today and it was very greasy as expected. The bacon could have been chopped to make it into every bite. It has the highest price/satisfaction ratio of all the items I ate so far, 6/10.
re: marblebag
Big fan of P.A. & Gargantua too. Tried their bacon grilled cheese last weekend and loved it. I agree the bacon slices were quite large / hard to eat at times and would've preferred crispier bacon too. Also tried the "Gargantuesque" ($10) - double grilled cheese with layers of chili. Chili was tasty but mildly spicy and lacked the saltiness the bacon one had. Prices are a bit high for the small sandwiches, but ingredients were very fresh and delicious. I'd pay the premium to eat there again. I'll have to try their veggie one next time!
http://mtlstreetfood.com/ - Montreal Food Truck Reviews
re: Chocolatesa
Apparently I can't delete comments or edit the image so here's a larger and hopefully more legible picture of the menu.
The official list of trucks for 2013 :
- Alexis Le Gourmand
- L'Assommoir Mobile
- Boîte à Fromages
- Camion Pied de Cochon
- Cartel Mobile
- Chaud Dogs
- Cuisine Lucky's Truck
- Gaufrabec
- Le Gourmand Vagabond
- Grumman 78
- Landry & filles
- Lapin!
- Lucille's
- Nomade So6 par Accords
- Ô soeurs volantes
- P.A. & Gargantua
- La Panthère Mobile
- Phoenix 1
- Le point sans g
- Le Quai roulant
- Route 27
- Roux
- St-Viateur Bagel
- Le Super Truck
- Le Tuktuk
- Winneburger
- Zoe's
re: Maximilien
Happy to see that La Panthère Verte has a food truck!
re: Maximilien
Holy cats, go La Panthere Verte!
Here's the schedule for who will be where and when http://ville.montreal.qc.ca/portal/pa...
Does anyone know where I can get info on the food trucks listed on the city's website here http://ville.montreal.qc.ca/portal/pa... that aren't listed on the ARRQ's website here? http://cuisinederue.org/food-trucks/
Much more interesting article on food trucks than the Vice one: http://www.montrealgazette.com/entert...
re: Glaff
It's true that food trucks are not part of Canadian culture. Here's hoping! But I would still like more ethnic eats because it's weird for the city to decide who gets to represent the gastronomic landscape. That should be for the consumer to decide. It's their wallets they're speaking with, after all.
Lucky Truck review
(start a new subtree for each truck)
Guedille de crevettes et légumes marinés: nordic shrimp in a light mayo sauce with celery and something. Thin crusted roll that was too heavy for this, I would have preferred a toasted hot dog bun. I finished it and I would eat it again if it was free, 7/10.
Poutine de canard confit: I had this before last year and it's still the same mess. Thin fries don't belong in a poutine. The duck was decent and the sauce edible. I didn't finish it and I would hesitate to eat it again even if it was free, 6/10.
Limonade à la lavande (2.5$): medium strength lemonade with a lavender syrup. This was a good combo all around and fares well with all the ice melted. I would pay for this again next week, 8/10.
re: marblebag
When reviewing trucks , we should also write where they were parked,when you got the food (i.e. lunch rush hour) and how long it took to order and get the food.
I think those are as important as the food.
re: Maximilien
Prices too please!
re: chilipepper
These trucks are part of the standard rotation this summer so where they park changes. You can use this map for all the standard locations.
For LuckyTruck I forgot the prices.
re: chilipepper
The sandwiches were $8-10, the poutines were $11, side of fries was $4.
re: marblebag
I was there today at lunch. Got there at 11:45 and waited nearly 15 minutes for my poutine to be ready, they seemed very unorganized and suuuper slow.
I had the special banh-mi poutine and the lemonade. The poutine definitely wasn't even near worth $11. My friend had the veggie sandwiches and those were pretty good.
re: foodie8
at $11 their poutine better be as big and delicious as a fresh one from la banquise
re: catroast
The pulled pork was okay, but for the quantity $11 is crazy. I figured the duck confit with fois gras merited the price tag...unfortunately this one did now.
re: marblebag
I tried Lucky's Truck yesterday. So far, they are my only disappointment on the food truck scene. This is the only truck I would agree to use the word "scam" to describe them.
I had the végé burger (which is actually 2 sliders) for 9$. One slice of beet topped with fried goat cheese (unnecessary, doesn't bring anything to fry that) and a few leaves of arugula. Not bad of course, beets and goat cheese always work, but absolutely not worth 9$.
Also saw the size of the poutine everyone was ordering. Crazy small for 11$.
Avoid this one...
re: Glaff
I had the pulled beef from the Diablo stand tonight - their bbq sauce was tasty as was the meat but the bread was a bore. Pas de Cochon still has the best pulled meat sandwich on the scene imo.
Also had a cone at the Pastaga ice cream truck. It was refreshing but the flavours were really mild - it reminded me of a McDonalds soft serve. Still, I'd get it again if I saw the truck on the street some place.
Le Tuk Tuk
Went there yesterday afternoon. Not sure if it was because of the holiday, but there was virtually no line, and I had my food in less than 5 minutes after ordering.
Papaya Salad - This was very good. Perfect sourness, not too much sweet and spicy. Very refreshing on a hot day. Decent portion for the price ($7)
Chicken Pad Thai - This was mediocre. I like my Pad Thai a bit more wet/saucy. I found the noodles were also sticking together. The flavors were excellent, I just would prefer a bit more sauce. A very generous portion, although it was put in a small container, which made the noodles stick together even more. ($9)
I would go back if they're in the area.
re: Stax88
Do you know which restaurant operates this truck?
re: hungryann
from what i got, it's a catering business and they don't have a restaurant, only a kitchen
I just posted about the Montreal Food Truck Festival on the Festivals 2013 thread. Apparently, it will be taking place July 13-27, 2013 right next to Just for Laughs.
re: captain_vegetable
Where did you see this? There is nothing on the events calendar on cusinederue.org nor is there anything on JFL websites for this year
re: gds514
I haven't been able to find any concrete info on this years event either, but it's been held in the past in conjunction with the JFL festival (on St Catherines St between St Urbain / Place-des-arts). Referred to as the food "souk" here's some info from last year:
re: gds514
More info about Bouffons Montreal at JFL:
July 13-27, Rue Balmoral corner Mayor
There's a link with more info about each participating food truck.
re: kpzoo
Before the negative nellies tear into the event, I'd like to post that I've already stopped in on Bouffons twice and it's been great both times. This is a much better arrangement than last year's location on St. Catherine and the PdA terrasse - the food is better (and cheaper) too! No longer does 2 ounces of thin gazpacho cost you $6!
re: Fintastic
I agree with the new layout. Lots of room to lounge around. Go and get AC at Tim Hortons if you are really hot.
Where is the stand from Daren Bergeron though.
Just went to Bouffons Montréal over my lunch hour. MUCH better organized than last year and not very crowded, either. By 1:10 PM, there was absolutely no lineup in front of the PdC truck (the one that had the biggest lineup when I first started making my rounds) and many trucks/cantines had little to no lineup while I was there from 12:30-1:30ish.
I plan to go there lots this week... Beats an indoor food court, even if it's ridiculously hot outside. I figure it's bound to get busier soon, but until then, WOO HOO!!
What I tried (we could have tried more places but we were trying to be reasonable):
Chaud Dogs - Corndog. Really tasty, great sausage and casing was light and flaky. But... jalapeno? Cheddar? Really? Didn't taste either. Big serving and certainly tasty, but not entirely worth the $7... 7/10 (would order again, but want to try something else next time)
Le Meatball - Greek Meatballs. Whoa, HUGE serving. Huge. Two medium-sized meatballs, on a bed of crunchy pita chips, with a decent serving of greek (no feta) salad and house made tzaziki. Absolutely delicious and good value for the $7 price tag. 9/10 (I can haz moar, plz?)
Cremy - caramel doughnut. Delicious, fresh, huge, mighty tasty. Heavy, but, hey, it's a freakin' donut. I brought it on myself by eating this on a ridiculously hot day. But, hey, at least I shared it with a friend! 8/10 (worth ordering again)
re: lawyergirl77
I had a doughnut (pistachios) from Crémy today. I'll use the same words to describe them: delicious, fresh, HUGE and tons of crispy pistachios on top, but not too heavy actually...
Do you know if he makes them at his pastry shop?
The Gazette's put together a Twitter list of Mtl food trucks if anyone wants to follow them that way:
Nice post about Bouffons Montreal with menus and prices from most food truck: http://jasminecuisine.blogspot.ca/201...
re: lawyergirl77
Chaug Dogs changes their menu weekly. The only item they keep is the corn dog. I think many of the trucks will be changing their menu now and then - which is a smart strategy to keep customers coming back for more. Agree, great blog post about the festival!
re: unlaced
It's up to each truck methinks-one rainy night, some packed up and left, others stuck it out.
re: chilipepper
Thanks chilipepper! I am planning to stop by tonight - hopefully the skies are clear!
Finally tried it.
PdC : Tried the poutine fois gras at PdC for 8$. Comes in what looks like a brie wood "box". Very small portion, about 5-6 big bites. It was my first time trying fois gras poutine and while it was good it's not my thing. Size too small for the price too.
Would not buy again,
EuroPolonia: Tried the hamburger at 5$. Was quite good, and filling enough. Had some nice peppers in it. Would buy it again.
Grabbed a bibimbap hot dog from chaud dog. The hot dog itself was excellent. Great casing and great flavor. Perfectly cooked. The dog comes with 4 toppings, pickled carrots, bean sprouts, kale and an omelette. All the toppings were great, but they were spread out (i.e. 1/4 of the dog had each topping). I'd love it if they could incorporate all the toppings into the omelette so there is an even distribution over the entire dog.
Great home-made soda too.
8/10. Would go there again.
Tried the APdC boxed meal for $22:
- pork-in-a-donut sandwich
Not sure what the sliced meats were(next time I'll ask!) but tasted a lot like smoked meat. A tad on the dry side but pouring the remaining sauce from the poutine fixed that. Donut was yummy, as was honey mustard sauce, all was warm.
- foie gras poutine
Delicious; gooey cheese curds on the bottom, fries, sauce and three small pieces of slippery, jiggly foie on top. Warm too.
- strawberry and cream-filled donut. So good.
- strawberry soda. Bleh. Too sweet.
Would have loved bigger poutine and will order again; ditto for sweet donut. Will order sandwich again but not for awhile. No soda for me.
It was cool, cloudy and windy and after the lunch rush so only waited a few minutes.
All in all, quite satisfied.
re: twinkie83
I saw the meatball truck last night - which meatball did you try, was it "the classic"? I was thinking of going to try them tomorrow... I was wondering what the "pimped" version was as well. I asked the guy and his answer was incoherent, even when I asked him to repeat it.
re: morebubbles
Pimped = the classic (marinara) on top of fondue Parmesan. I really wanted to try it!!
re: morebubbles
i got the classic. didn't felt like paying an extra $2 for more cheese but that's me. anyway, 2 golf size meatballs on top of 2 tiny slices of baguette with marinara and freshly grated parmesan. it's great for an appetizer but as a meal, there's better around
was looking to try the diner first but the girls kept on talking to each other and some dude on the side. they didn't seem to care that customers were waiting to be serve so i walk away. that was simply bad form. made my way to supertruck instead. wanted to try the fried macaroni but they were out so i got the pork belly instead. reminded me of my mom's recipe except without the heat. it could have used some spicy.
re: twinkie83
You didn't miss anything with the diner. Microwaved & blah food. The only true "miss" out of the trucks we visited (and we visited almost all of them!)
I checked out the JFL site today and tried a few different trucks. I've been meaning to check out Chaud Dogs for some time but unfortunately the $7 hot dog was disappointing. I appreciate that each component is made artisanally but the frank was bland and dry. I couldn't taste any seasoning at all! No matter the origins of the ingredients, a $2.50 street dog in Toronto is much better.
re: catroast
tried their dog too and i agree. the toppings were tasty but the frank was a disappointment. they should offer a "toppings in a bun" dish. i would definitely eat just that
re: twinkie83
I agree with you two exactly. The other stuff great(toppings & bun), the dog itself absolutely tasteless.
in case you thought it was better (or easier) elsewhere...
re: EaterBob
Does this mean it's "as bad" or "as difficult" in NYC as Montreal - or just expensive? As far as I can tell, the bulk of the criticism wrt the food truck regime in Mtl has been targeted at the bureaucratic nightmare involved and the unnecessary rules and regulations surrounding it, which basically just perpetuate the original problem - that the resto lobby in Mtl. has too much sway with councillors to protect their business.
I'm getting from the article that it's expensive in NYC but everything is relative...and most things are exorbitantly expensive in NYC, particularly when it comes to starting businesses. It's a barrier to entry - you need to come up with big amounts of startup capital - but the article seems to suggest you can still turn a profit, and that other than the costs to obtain a license to sell in a particular spot, there isn't an undue amount of red tape.
Just my $0.02
re: berbatov
It can mean whatever you would like it to mean.
"The bulk of the criticism wrt the food truck regime in Mtl has been due" to tiny portions of lousy food costing too much money, as far as I can tell.
re: jonhall
Here's the link with the info: http://calendrier.parcolympique.qc.ca...
re: jonhall
Apparently, it's on.
re: jonhall
it's on tonight and there's supposed to be a last one in october


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Ghostzapper has done very well when crossed over mares from the Mr. Prospector line. He has grade 1 winners Better Lucky and Zapper Pirate out of mares by Seeking the Gold (sire of Mutakddim, Petionville and Cape Town), and grade 1 winner Starship Truffles out of a mare by Not For Love (three-quarter brother to Woodman). From the Forty Niner branch of Mr. Prospector, Ghostzapper has graded stakes winners from daughters of Twining and Coronado's Quest, while Awesome Again has grade 1 winner Nominee out of a mare by Forty Niner's son, Distorted Humor. This strongly suggests trying Oxbow with these and other sources of Forty Niner, such as Trippi, Gold Fever, Roar, Tactical Advantage, Gold Case and Luhuk. Ghostzapper has a graded stakes winner out of a mare by Gone West, a line that has also done well under Tiznow, and which can be brought in through Speightstown, Elusive Quality, Grand Slam, Mr. Greeley, Proud Citizen and West By West.
From the Fappiano branch of Mr. Prospector there is a graded winner by Ghostzapper out of a mare by Unbridled, and a multi-millionaire by Awesome Again out of a mare by Pentelicus (three-quarter brother to Unbridled). This suggests trying mares by Cahill Road (brother to Unbridled), and Unbridled's Song and sons, such as Songandaprayer and Even the Score; Empire Maker; Broken Vow; Grindstone and his son Birdstone; and also introducing Fappiano through other sources such as Rubiano (bringing in a sister to Relaunch, who is in the broodmare sire line of Oxbow), Quiet American and his son Real Quiet; and Cryptoclearance, his son Victory Gallop, and his grandson, Candy Ride. Other branches of Mr. Prospector to produce stakes winners for Awesome Again, Ghostzapper and other sons, are: Conquistador Cielo (who could be good through Marquetry and Artax); Carson City (whose son, City Zip, is out of the mare who produced Ghostzapper, and who is also sire of Cuvee, Flying Chevron, Five Star Day, Lord Carson and Good and Tough); Smoke Glacken (by Two Punch); Jade Hunter; Gulch (sire of Thunder Gulch); and Miswaki (sire of Black Tie Affair and grandsire of Formal Gold).
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Out of mares from the Roberto line, Ghostzapper has sired grade 1 winner Contested (from a daughter of Arch, by Kris S., also sire of Prized, Kissin Kris and Rock Hard Ten); and grade 1 winner Stately Victor (out of a mare by Dynaformer). There are also stakes winners from this line out of mares by Silver Hawk and Red Ransom. Roberto is a Hail to Reason line stallion, and from the Halo branch of this line, Awesome Again has the outstanding performer Game On Dude, out of a mare by Devil His Due (by Devil's Bag, sire of Abaginone, Twilight Agenda, and Diablo), and a graded winner out of a mare by Saint Ballado (brother to Devil's Bag, and sire of Sweetsouthernsaint, Straight Man, Yankee Victor and Captain Bodgit). Halo might also be tried through Southern Halo and More Than Ready. Awesome Again and his sons have enjoyed considerable success when bred back over a variety of branches of their own Northern Dancer line. This includes Storm Bird, including the Storm Cat sons Tale of the Cat and Storm Boot (inviting other Storm Cat line stallions such as Giant's Causeway, Hennessy and his son Johannesburgh, Forest Wildcat, Forestry, Stormin Fever and Stormy Atlantic). Out of mares from the Danzig branch, there are Awesome Again line stakes winners out of mares by Dayjur, Langfuhr and Polish Numbers, along with Boundary, Chief's Crown, Belong to Me, War Chant, War Front, Exchange Rate, Honor Grades, Lost Soldier, Danzig Connection and Katowice. Other branches of Northern Dancer to produce the dams of Awesome Again line stakes winners are Dixieland Band (sire of Dixie Union) and Theatrical (by Nureyev).
From the Caro line, Awesome Again has two stakes winners out of mares by Cozzene, including grade 1 winner Toccet. Ghostzapper has a graded scorer out of a mare by With Approval, and there is also a graded stakes winner by a son of Awesome Again out of a mare by Indian Charlie (by In Excess). There are also stakes winners out of mares from the Damascus line out of daughters of Time For a Change (sire of Fly So Free), Skip Trial (sire of Skip Away) and Valley Crossing and Unaccounted For (both by Private Account, sire of Private Terms, Personal Flag, Corporate Report and Secret Hello; grandsire of Afternoon Deelites). Ghostzapper also sired G2 winner and Breeders' Cup F/M Sprint (gr. 1) runner-up Judy the Beauty out of a mare by Holy Bull (whose son, Macho Uno, would give inbreeding to Primal Force, the dam of Awesome Again and Macho Uno), and a stakes winner from a daughter of Broad Brush (sire of Include).


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Need {Recent}restaurant/food recommendations for area around Mayo Clinic in Rochester MN
- DebitNM Feb 4, 2007 08:17 AM
We are going to Rochester MN on 2/6/07 for approximately 2 weeks while I am treated at Mayo Clinic.
I have read older postings on here and understand that we are not going to the gourmet capital of the world. However, while we are here, we would like to have some ideas as to where to eat other than chains. I am looking for some places that we can go together before I am admitted as inpatient and some places for my husband to eat lunch/ dinner while I am in hospital.
We like American, Asian, Greek, Italian, Seafood/Fish, Steak, Italian. Not looking for mexican as we get plenty of that at home. He would also enjoy brew pubs or micrbrewery places. Any recommendations for local beers?
I have done searches on here and lots of the posts are dated. I have looked at rochester websites and have names of places, but not much else to go on as to quality of food.
For the meals for the two of us, price really isn't too important. When he eats alone, he is willing to pay less and have a decent meal with a good [preferably great] beer.
We are staying: Spring Suites on 2nd and I have came upon these possibilities:
Michael's Restaurant;
Bilotti's Italian Village;
Broadstreet Cafe & Bar;
City Cafe Mixed Grille & Bar;
City Market;
The RedWood Room;S
Shady Hill Grille
Thanks so much for your insights.
First of all, best of luck to you. While I was there for my stay at the Mayo, I learned to LOVE the food at Victoria's. It's right downtown, easy access to the Mayo and a relaxing atmosphere. Good for lunch or dinner.
In fact, the day I was released from Mayo and not even so lucid, we went straight to Victoria's for too much food. It was wonderful - I loved all of the chicken dishes (didn't have any steak or seafood) but the chicken dishes were classic, delicious and soothing to the soul (I am an east coast Sicilian and am miserably disappointed with most Italian food restaurants). I also don't order red sauces for pasta because, again I am disappointed so I don't even bother. I loved everything I had at Victoria's......
Again, best of luck and Godspeed.
Thanks for the kind words and suggestion. The older post on here seem to indicate that Victoria's was less than good.
Glad to get a differing opinion -- when were you there?
I was there well over a year ago - I found the food comforting and good. Of course, it all depends on individual taste. Being Italian, we were pretty much raised to avoid Italian restaurants (even though we had two in our family). I enjoyed Victoria's very much - and would love to hear, if you go, what your experience was like. Of course a lot can change in time and it's been a bit.
You'll be excited to hear that Rochester Magazine just came out with its Best Restaurant edition. Pick one up. Some suggestions are excellent, others appear to have stuffed the ballot box.
Do try Sontes - a new tapas restaurant just a couple of blocks from the clinic. 40 wines by the glass plus excellent food, atmosphere. The scallop dish and the chirizo stuffed dates are notable.
Michael's is old school. My parents love it as do most of the Rochester traditionals. Ask to sit in the library. Steaks are their specialty.
Zorba's for Greek - on 7th Street NW and 11th Avenue. Try their chicken. Nice family. Mac's is close to the Clinic, but nothing special.
Prescott's is about 20 blocks south of the Clinic. Great food and even better wine. The stuffed pork chop was voted the best dish -- a surprising choice to me. Try their pear salad.
While at the Clinic, Victoria's is close and always a sure thing. They actually have a hidden jewel location called "Victoria's Express". It only does take out, but has a huge salad selection. If you're on the run, ask an employee to direct you.
City Cafe, Broadstreet, the Redwood Room and Zubay's are all owned by the same people. City Cafe was again the best restaurant. Nice for dinner. Redwood has live music every night and a great menu. I don't seem to go to these as much as other places. They seem over-priced to me without enough return.
Local beers don't exist. Try Whistle Binkie's (about 30 blocks north) for good, different bar food and more types of beers than you can imagine (for Rochester, that is).
Good luck with your visit. Hope all goes well.
One choice for local brews is Mantorville Brewing Company.They have two varieties, Stagecoach Ale and Smoked Porter The only place I know it's available is at the Hubbell House (ironically) also in in Mantorville.
Mantorville Brewing Company
105 East Fifth Street
PO Box 463
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(507) 635-5404
If your husband is looking for GREAT food, decent prices, and a wonderful staff and service, I have two words...Cafe Presto! http://www.cfpresto.com It's directly across from St. Mary's and offers free delivery to the local area...with no minimum purchase. One of the best local unsung heroes.
it's hard to know your palate and what you consider good fare, but here is my $0.02 worth:
Michael's is a over-used, overthehill steak restaurant. Don't go there looking for good steak, go there looking for an atmosphere from the "old days" with food that tastes like it too. also, Hubbell House may have been known for great steak in the past, but now, it's just mediocre and the service is horrible. Victoria's? It's probably the only Italian food in Rochester other than the Olive Garden so that's why most people will say it's good. Just as an FYI, I've heard worse reviews about Bilotti's. As jpots stated, there are 3 decent restaurants in Rochester that are all owned by the same family and after you've eaten at all of them, they pretty much taste the same. City Cafe is way overrated, pretentious and not all that. With that said, the Redwood room is the better of them due to its ambience in the basement (great ambience and they have live, acoustic performers which is awesome). what do I recommend? Newts. Definitely for beer, popcorn and burgers and their nachos. Just a great fun, bar place. I also recommend the chinese restaurant that used to be the old Arby's (across from the YMCA). Their singapore curry noodles are very well done. Fine dining, purely in my opinion, does not exist in Rochester. casual dining is plentiful. The sandwiches at Zubay (the place on the street level next to City Cafe) has good sandwiches. It's more of a walk, but The Good Food store has great vegan food! I tell everybody this! I think THEY have the best food in Rochester. At least try it. Also, don't give the Rochester Magazine's "BEST Restaurants" too much credit... judge by your own intuition and chowhound.com thoughts. Good luck!
Thanks again for the suggestions. We ate at Zorba the Greeks the first night. It is owned by a Russian woman, so that should tell you something. I had spanikopita and tirapidas as appetizer and greek salad. Hubby had souvlaki [d bit dried out]. All was ok, but nothing special. I had rice pudding for dessert, [should have passed on it - seemed like rice in milk with some cinnamon on top,but lots of it] and hubby had baklava [soggy].
Second night we ate at Cafe Presto. Hubby had special which was pasta with shrimp and alfredo like sauce [few shrimps] and I had their famous chicken with thai chile honey glaze [simple but tasty].
Third night we ate at Canadian Honker. Hubby had chile as soup and that almost filled him up. He had tower of chops [pork] which was served over mashed potatoes and had some fried onions on top. They looked a bit on the overcooked side to me. I had pot roast which was very good. Had a huge piece of coconut cake...moist and yummy. Perfect end for a really bad day.
Hope this helps someone else looking for places to eat.
PS - we walked everywhere. Zorba's was very far from where we stayed and it was way too cold to walk! So, the next 2 dinners were picked for location; a few blocks of Spring Hill Suites where we stayed.
Hello there, I am in Rocheeseter for a few days and am coming from a rural area where there are no Indian restaurants. Indian food is my favorite, so I am excited about the opportunity to get it tonight. However, it doesnt sound like the Indian food is that great here. What does anyone recommend? And could you reply right away as I am eager to eat soon? Price is no object but quality is. I will only be ordering onlhy vegetarian Indian dishes. Also, besides the Vietnamese, which I may have tomorrow, are there any other good ethnic restaurants I might not ave at home Thanks so much,
re: starfishhungry
Cuisine of India (formerly Natraj Indian Kitchen) http://www.natrajkitchen.com/ is surely the best vegetarian Indian food in town. You can get just about anything you want if you talk to the waiter and make a request. They are very good at making their dishes to order...as long as they know what you want.
Aas far as Vietnamese, there are two choices... Pho Hoa on 18th Avenue...their food is so so, good Pho I guess but nothing different than what I've anywhere else. The second is a new place on Broadway that I've not tried but looks busy every time I drive by. Report back if you try it...it's surely on my list .
Three more to try:
Prescott's in Crossroad Shopping Center Chef owned, wife is sommelier. Very nice food and wine.
Jasper's, an Alsatian bistro on 3rd St. SW
Sontes Restaurant, a new wonderful tapas place, again with a great wine list, also on 3rd St. SW.
From someone who visits her parents in Rochester about once a month, Bilottis is not that great. Try Victoria's-especially the Chicken Picatta. They have some great lunch specials too. The tiramasu is kind of wierd-but everything else has been absolutely fantastic.
Some other places I forgot about are La Fiesta (I know you don't like Mexican, but it's really good). Also Grandma's Kitchen in the NE, very good home cooking and breakfasts. Excellent soups. Also, try Zorba's for some good Greek food-this from a person who grew up in Rochester, and still visits her parents about once a month. Also, Nelson's Cheese has excellent sandwiches and really fantastic cheap ice cream.
We've been in Rochester for about 15 years. I see nobody has posted about our two fine local Barbecue joints.
Roscoes original stand is open except winter just across the River on 4th St S. They win national ribfests, and have a grand national winner of a sauce. Their restaurant in Maplewood is open year-round. They also have fish fries some nights that are really good.
John Hardy's is also well-regarded. Their medium sauce is as hot as I can take.
We also have the Famous Dave's chain, which ain't bad at all.
Mexican: Las Carambas is a hole-in-the-wall with good and authentic food, good prices, large portions and a drive-through.
Chinese: China Star with three sites keeps winning the best take-out in town award in Rochester magazine. I like it.
Chinese Buffets: Sky Dragon at Miracle Mile is very good; two new ones, International Buffet and Kingdom Buffet are both excellent.


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Everyone who is comparing euro prices to America please, just stop. Gas is more or less fungible. It goes for what it is worth. The gas itself costs the same in America or Europe (transportation costs aside). The difference in prices is mostly due to taxes implemented by your governments. The federal government gets 18.4 cents per gallon of regular gas in the US (24.4 per gallon of diesel). On top of that, states add their own gas taxes. On average, state and local taxes add 30.5 cents to gasoline and 29.4 cents to diesel, for a total US average fuel tax of 48.9 cents per gallon for gas and 53.8 cents per gallon for diesel.
The taxes in Europe are much higher.
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She was a beautiful bride, he an adoring groom, the parents appropriately joyous. And that's about all we know about the Clinton/Mezvinsky wedding -- how refreshing is that?! In an age of unrelenting 'openness,' the Clintons managed to keep a private family event -- private. Read on ...
Positive Vibes at the Ballfield
It may not seem like much - you might even laugh. But there was a lot of positivity at Citifield this weekend - even BEFORE the Mets beat the Marlins. In this techno-world, it had everything to do with NON-tech crafting. For more, including a Daily News article, read on ...
Thank You Power comes to school
I was watching The View the other morning when you were on it promoting your book Thank You Power and at the time I was in a pickle because I had to choose a topic for a paper for an English class I am in for college and I wanted to choice something that would affect everyone . . .


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Family starts real estate brokerage firm in Stafford
A husband-and-wife team and their son have formed a new real estate brokerage firm in North Stafford.
Mike and Cindy Gillies and their son, Michael, recently started Re/Max Legacy in a leased office at 85 Mine Road near the Garrisonville Road intersection.
The Gillies Team operated for several years as part of Coldwell Banker Elite's North Stafford office. Cindy Gillies will head the new firm.
Michael Gillies said Re/Max approached his family about the opportunity to start a new firm. His family plans to hire about 10-15 agents for the new venture. He think the region's low inventory of available homes and healthy job market bodes well for area housing going forward.
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ha, wassup Cyno, yeah the vb4 upgrade changed some things, we're still in the process of getting the background and formatting back up (Cider would know better than me), but I think there are more bigger/important changes that have put "background" changes in the back burner. How you been man. I haven't seen you log on Meso in a while.
I pitty the fool! Site has changed....
Psst Kaz.... WoW does not take incredible amounts of skill, there is a difference between the skill of players... and I'll be a well known tank when you pummel me for telling you that. >.> <.<
I would if knew how to access it at work. also tell Rak he is a bum for not texting me back.
i am soooo bored at work today. How is Kaz? I never get to chat with you!
lol, i love that song too, i sing it a lot while walking the dogs =P
omg kaz.. srsly? marry me! thats my fav xmas song. you rock.
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TSTC in Brownwood hosts college fair
Published On: Oct 02 2012 10:46:10 PM CDT
Updated On: Oct 03 2012 08:10:47 AM CDT
Updated On: Oct 03 2012 08:10:47 AM CDT
High school students in Brown County had a chance to learn a little about college Tuesday.
Texas State Technical College has a college fair once a year.
Tuesday students from Zephyr and Brookesmith high schools were among those in attendance.
The college fair had about 60 schools with recruiters passing out information to students.
Howard Payne and Hardin-Simmons University were among the colleges represented at the fair.
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Many Happy Returns
UK, 1996 (MIFF 1997, Animation)
Director: Marjut Rimminen
Combines puppet animation, drawn animation, computer animation, and subtly altered live action all digitally imaged to tell a deeply disturbing story of remembered abandonment and abuse. At the slam of a door, a glimpse in a mirror, the present shrinks and transmutes into the past. Painful memories seep into the present and poison it. A grown woman's states of mind are portrayed by a series of moralistic, but profoundly emotionally expressive and visually absorbing. Virtuoso animation by a prize-winning animator.


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