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Manning's max sentence cut, may only spend up to 90 years in the cooler
Bradley Manning's maximum possible sentence for publishing tens of thousands of American classified documents via Wikileaks has been reduced from 136 years to 90 years. The military judge overseeing his trial agreed that some of the 20 charges on which the army private was found guilty last week were closely related and could be …
As if.
90 years? Imperial Americana ain't gonna keep it together for that long.
On the one hand...
...I admire what he did and would have done the same myself.
But on the other hand he did brag about his exploits on line which led the authorities straight to him( wouldn't have done that bit ) so...fuck him!!
Re: On the one hand...
> I admire what he did and would have done the same myself.
But you didn't.
So please do not be so quick to judge.
Re: On the one hand...
> I admire what he did and would have done the same myself.
Really? You want to be locked up and pounded in the ass for 90 years?
I wonder what he would have gotten if he had only released the gunship video of the two Reuters journalists getting mown down.
He was never charged with his main crime. "Embarrassing the US Government by releasing authentic State Dept cables."
The first rule of embarrassing the people in charge is that you never talk about embarrassing the people in charge.
There was a reason for the "court jester" psychological outlet in times past.
"picked out things that wouldn't harm anyone or endanger national security"
whatever the rights and wrongs of him releasing the data - its utterly naive for him to believe he was in any way able to make that determination given the volume of data released
As a single person he'd never be able to understand the linkages between all that data - at best he can say I only released things that on their own I didn't expect to harm anyone. All sorts of apparently innocuous things when put together become significant... and some of it may only be possible with data outside of the communication list.
Its not a good legal defence, but the only credible position is that I knew there would be some damage to operations and the possibility that someone may be harmed as a result, but I tried to minimise this and believed it was worthwhile.
Re: "picked out things that wouldn't harm anyone or endanger national security"
Which just goes to emphasise that there must be a public interest defence and a proportionality test for cost:benefit in any of these situations. It also shows that the whole idea of a separate legal system for one set of citizens (the military) is completely flawed, and military law must be got rid of. All citizens should be entitled to a jury trial, and in these days of rapid transport, there is no justification for it not to happen.
Place your bets!
Who do you think will leave their prison first - Manning from Quantico or A$$nut from the Ecuadorean Embassy?
Re: Place your bets!
Or you from your fucking high horse?
Re: hspasm Re: Place your bets!
"Or you from your fucking high horse?" Aw, is one of the ickle sheeple having a hard time coping with reality? LOL! I don't know why you're getting so upset about, in a few weeks or so you won't even remember who Bradley Manning was. Some other attention-seeking loser will be proclaimed the new Champion of Liberty for some equally stupid stunt and you'll be back to happily bleating at full volume, Manning conveniently forgotten.
Re: Place your bets! @Twat Drypants
Government apologists - every forum should have one!
Btw, you should really stop the name calling.
Re: Sandtitz Re: Place your bets! @Twat Drypants
I make that hook, line and sinker on two! It's so funny how difficult you sheeple find facing facts or any form of insult to the heroes of their Faith. Keep on supplying the laughs!
Re: hspasm Place your bets!
Tut tut.
You do seem to have issues with criticism, don't you. Must be past your bedtime.
Perhaps you shouldn't bother your little head with adult topics, you know they upset you so.
Now jump down from your oh so moral giraffe, have another bottle or two of tixylix or whatever it is you are addicted to and get some sleep.
You get such a potty-mouth when you are overtired.
Re: Place your bets! @Twat Drypants
That's fully one half of his entire modus; childish name-calling. The other half involves cutting and pasting nonsense from right-wing blogs.
Still, everywhere has to have it's pathetic "look at me" trolls.
Re: hspasm Re: hspasm Place your bets!
LOL, look at the attempt at a recovery when the sheeple realises his chain has been well and truly yanked! Anyway, in answer to the quiz you so petulantly avoided, the answer is A$$nut if you can manage independent thought, and Manning if you are one of the sheeple. Why? Well, looking at it logically, Manning is going to be locked up full stop, but A$$nut at some point will voluntarily leave the embassy if only to reassert his position of High Lord of Victimhood with the sheeple. Of course, if you're sheeple, the answer is Manning as he will die before completing his sentence, but A$$nut cannot die because he is The One True GOD! Enjoy!
Re: Boring Bernie Re: Place your bets! @Twat Drypants
"That's fully one half of his entire modus; childish name-calling....." Oh sorry, did it make you cry?
".....The other half involves cutting and pasting nonsense from right-wing blogs....." Let's see - in recent threads where I have exposed the stupidity of what you like to consider "thought", I have used links from Wikipedia (run by a load of socialists intent on "freeing" information) and the BBC ( not nicknamed the Bolshevik Broadcasting Corporation for nothing) website, so I assume anything slightly to the right of Trotsky and Stain would be "right-wing" to you? If you wish to try and justify your post, please do show where I ever linked to any "right-wing" blogs, or admit you talked male bovine manure, as usual.
In between, you might consider an attempt at posting some original thoughts on Manning's sentence. Nothing too challenging, of course, we wouldn't want you to strain yourself. After all, when your counting base is "one, two, many" it's probably a bit hard for you to grasp the impact.
Trolling @Twat
>I make that hook, line and sinker on two!
You shouldn't troll. The forum rules are against that. It'd be so sad to see you get the boot from mgmt...
Besides, trolling is a big no-no. And taking pride of being a troll is beyond stupid - Linus would be happy to coin a Finnish phrase for your ilk - though he probably couldn't care less of anonymous nobodies like you.
Re: Sand-in-her-bitz Re: Trolling @Twat
".....It'd be so sad to see you get the boot from mgmt..." More like your fervent wish given how the sheeple just can't stomach any form of dissent. The original post is a straight enough suggestion that people should chip in with their views on whether A$$nut will leave the Ecuadorean Embassy before Manning gets carried out of the stockade in a coffin, and whilst it you may have found the suggestion "unacceptable" to your delicate sensibilities, I'd be most amused if you can find anything in the forum rules that encouraging such discourse is verboten. What I could count on was the immediate and shrieking bleats of the enraged sheeple, but I think you'll find your content-free and reflexive shrieking was closer to rule-breaking material than my invitation to discussion. And keeping count of the number of shrieking sheeple is also not verboten, merely amusing. So, do you want to suggest which of the two will find "freedom" first? Thought not.
Re: hspasm Place your bets!
" Aw, is one of the ickle sheeple having a hard time coping with reality?"[...]
"[in a few weeks] Some other attention-seeking loser will be proclaimed the new Champion of Liberty for some equally stupid stunt and you'll be back to happily bleating at full volume, Manning conveniently forgotten."
These people contain amongst their midst the freetards, the never disappeared 'want to know state secrets' fools and so on. These people were mostly brought up to believe that everything should be free and accessible, even if it means the death of serving personnel. These people have short memories, are arseholes and have probably never seen active duty, have probably never depended for their survival on the ability of people to keep things secret. They'll probably end up in obscurity or even dying early, some possibly with a Darwin award to their names;.
Re: Boring Bernie Place your bets! @Twat Drypants
" [...] the BBC ( not nicknamed the Bolshevik Broadcasting Corporation for nothing [...]"
It's been mooted several times since the paedophilia scandal that they be called the PBC, but you have a very good point. It's become increasingly clear that they are acting like a political organisation with a mandate for left wing activity. They are no longer neutral and, if this carries on, they will probably be returned to the private market whence they came. That would be a shame and they have themselves to blame; their bonanza of excessive wages, publicly funded jaunts and silly stunts (making it seem as though the Queen had walked out in a temper tantrum, fixing game shows and much more) will come to an end.
The BBC's image is worse than tarnished.
Re: Trolling @Twat
"You shouldn't troll. The forum rules are against that. It'd be so sad to see you get the boot from mgmt...
Besides, trolling is a big no-no. And taking pride of being a troll is beyond stupid - Linus would be happy to coin a Finnish phrase for your ilk - though he probably couldn't care less of anonymous nobodies like you.
Oooh, lots of stuff in here; argumentum ad hominem, argumentum ad auctoritatem by proxy (in this case fallacious), plus an attempt to denigrate and reduce everything the poster iterates, an attempt to destroy their worth rather than to address anything they have posted (the poisoning the well fallacy; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poisoning_the_well). These are the marks of trolling, and most odious too.
You want to be careful, or the management might boot you on the very grounds that you indicate that Matt might be, to say nothing of the fact that you are as anonymous as you say he (Matt) is.
Re: Sand-in-her-bitz Trolling @Twat
"So, do you want to suggest which of the two will find "freedom" first? Thought not."
I expect they'd take the blue pill, were such a thing to exist.
136 years to 90 years...
It makes me deeply uneasy at how the U.S. judicial system works. I.e. stacking up charge after charge so that even if the dedendant has a good lawyer who can whittle those down, the defendant is still likely to spend a deeply unreasonable amount of time behind bars with little hope of getting out. The sentencing is so off kitler that it beggars belief and it still surprises me that no one has managed to change it. Also the pressure to plea bargain is so intense that I'm sure innocent people do time as well as the guilty.
Re: 136 years to 90 years...
"It makes me deeply uneasy at how the U.S. judicial system works. I.e. stacking up charge after charge so that even if the dedendant has a good lawyer who can whittle those down, the defendant is still likely to spend a deeply unreasonable amount of time behind bars with little hope of getting out. The sentencing is so off kitler that it beggars belief and it still surprises me that no one has managed to change it. Also the pressure to plea bargain is so intense that I'm sure innocent people do time as well as the guilty."
While I get what you're saying, if it didn't work that way what would be the reasoning for committing one crime vs. many? "If I murder one person, I might as well murder 10."
I believe the phrase is...
I might as well be hung for a sheep as a lamb.
Re: 136 years to 90 years...
" if it didn't work that way what would be the reasoning for committing one crime vs. many?"
A counter argument might be - I've committed several minor offences, but the total sentence is now so big I have nothing to lose, so from here on in kill any witnesses.
Re: 136 years to 90 years...
In some ways this is actually one of their fairer trials, as there is so much publicity around it. The prosecution hasn't had to resort to some standard-issue dirty tricks often used on lesser criminals. There are a few common ones I know of:
- The overworked public defender: He has half an hour to devote to your case, and he knows that his job depends upon you agreeing to the plea bargin - if he actually gets too many people off, he'll be fired on a pretext for embarassing the department and someone of more flexible morals will take his place.
- Freezing of assets so the defendant can't afford a lawyer. Sure, they may have the money to buy one - but with all their bank accounts frozen, there is no way to pay, and lawyers generally don't work for credit.
- Seizing of all assets that could possibly be related to a crime. Usually applies to either electronic devices of vehicles. Added bonus: Can sell at police auction. That's one reason police in the US love drug prosecutions: If the convicted used a car to drive to a dealing location, then the car has been used in commission of a crime. That means police auction, and money for the department.
The only dirty trick they are using from the civilian world is the pileing-of-the-charges, trying to intimidate the accused with the possibility of severe punishment. In the civilian world it's used to apply pressure for the accused to plead guilty - that's the approach used on Swartz, which instead drove him to suicide. In this case it's being used to make an example - to show any other potential leakers that the government is willing and able to throw the book at them, and they'll be lucky to ever see daylight again.
There's a fair bit of evidence-hiding going on as well - there are claims made by thr prosecution that the leaks have lead to the deaths of some US agents, but as this is all strictly classified stuff they aren't able to say who or how. The judge just has to take their word that the leaks resulted in friendly deaths - and this is a military trial, so the word of the intelligence services is beyond contest.
Once Apon a Time........
This would make one hell of a movie.
Firstly he gets a job that supplies him with information of crimes against humanity, and he releases the evidence to the public. His bosses slap him into a marine stockade and then subject him to psychological torture by removing his spectacles, making him blind as a bat and causing him headaches. They continue by taking away all his clothes and humiliated him by making him stand every two hours in front of another man. That introduced sleep depravation which continued for months. Then when the media got hold of it his bosses had to put him on suicide watch to cover their backs. His bosses were then forced to transfer him out of a prison run by themselves to a civilian prison. The boss of the civilian prison decided the suicide tag was completely untrue by giving him back his clothes and spectacles, and stopping the sleep depravation and suicide watch.
Once out of his bosses hands his bosses decided to supply the judge, jury, defence lawyer court room, and rules they had to play by. His bosses even paid their wages. If his bosses hadn't stacked the cards enough they then held secret meetings with judges to cement the result.
His bosses then promptly banned the torture from being used as evidence of torture.
...........and all but one lived happily ever after.
Re: Once Apon a Time........
Radio 4 already did a radio play about it.
It is a very depressing play. The main theme seems to be the utter lack of hope. There is no prospect of escape, or a legal out-manouvering. The only times any other characters speak are to state that they are under orders not to converse with the prisoner. Towards the end he manages to give a short monologue to the officer in charge explaining his actions, and for a moment you think he might have won some leniency - but the officer is one of those uber-patriot types, and gets so offended that the moral character of his country has been insulted that he declares Manning a suicide risk and orders that his glasses and clothing be confiscated for his own protection.
Re: Once Apon a Time........
For fucks sake he was a serving mbr of the armed forces, guess what happens when you are court martialed...
Military court, military judge, military lawyers, military jury and military prision...
Don't like it? don't fucking join or DON'T do whats going to get you in front of a court martial...seems pretty fucking simple to me.
Re: Once Apon a Time........
Exactly and is the big difference between Snowden who I don't think deserves a day in jail and Manning who does. Once you voluntarily take that oath you are no longer a civilian and no longer have the same rights. Being a soldier is more than just another job.
Re: Once Apon a Time........
Isn't there a difference between:
"I swear to serve my country"
"I swear to serve my country and conceal evidence of crimes against humanity"
Re: Once Apon a Time........
It's people like Manning that restore my faith in humanity, by doing what is right rather than following orders.
Seems the only way the good will triumph and the bad get punished is by pinning our hopes on an invasion by Vulcan's who have finally tired of watching our masters kick us around like a smack heads dog.
Sadly, it's more likely the Klingons will be invited to make a substantial investment in our security services.
Renditioning will get very interesting indeed.
Re: Once Apon a Time........
"Exactly and is the big difference between Snowden who I don't think deserves a day in jail and Manning who does. Once you voluntarily take that oath you are no longer a civilian and no longer have the same rights. Being a soldier is more than just another job."
This argument didnt work for the Nazis. In fact the ruling being that orders from command must be questioned if they break the rules because if you participate in the crime you are a criminal.
I am less convinced of Manning's righteousness than Snowdon's but the argument 'he told me to do it' was nullified after WW2.
Re: Once Apon a Time........
"I swear to serve my country" translates fairly accurately as "I become state property".
After all, if you're willing to allow the state to send you to your death at some politician's whim, how can you convincingly complain about a court-martial, be it a fixed or fair one?
I understood this concept very well, which is why I never signed up for military service.
Re: Once Apon a Time........
"Exactly and is the big difference between Snowden who I don't think deserves a day in jail and Manning who does."
It is highly unlikely that Snowden's contract with the CIA didn't involve something akin to the 'official secrets act'. If they did not make him sign a document concerning secrecy, you prove it to us all here and now.
I hope so
I hope Manning has to spend everyone of the 90 years in prison.
Re: I hope so
I expect he is going to smell real bad after 90 years (age 116 if they count from now)...
This is like "We have reduced your sentence from life + 40 years, to only life +10 years. He must be thrilled.
Re: I hope so
Fortunately, BTW, no-one give a flying fuck what you hope ...
Re: I hope so
He must have done something really fucking serious to deserve that comment? Myself - I'd save the 90 year sentences for war criminals tried in a court of law (must maintain faith etc) with proper oversight!
War crimes eh?
Not a problem, if the accused are American, obviously.
Why is evawyrone so fuckin' stoopid?
American justice:
Kill innocent people at a wedding with a drone: get 0 years
Abuse detainees in Abu Grahib: get up to 7 years
Leak information about American abuses of power: get up to 90 years
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Alaska Recommendations Needed - Fairbanks, Denali, Anchorage, Seward
We'll be in Alaska for almost two weeks prior to a cruise out of Seward. Flying into Fairbanks and spending time there, in Denali, Anchorage, and Seward. I have some major needs for 2 adults and 2 kids who eat anything and everything. The kids are fine in ANY restaurant. Price does not matter, only looking for the best food. I would like some great seafood, great asian if its available, native American food if available, and the best Alaskan cuisine.
We need recommendations for 3 Breakfasts, 3 Lunches, and 3 Dinners in FAIRBANKS. We are staying at Sophie Station and will have a car. The best recommendations I have found are for Pike's Landing, Zack's, Lavelle's Bistro, and Lulu's and Sam's Sourdough Café.
We need recommendations for 2 Lunches and 2 Dinners in DENALI. We are staying at the McKinley Chalet Resort. We have (free) tickets to cabin night for a night so far.
We need recommendations for 3 Lunches and 4 Dinners in ANCHORAGE. We are staying at the Anchorage Grand Hotel but will not have a car. The best recommendations I have found are for Crow's Nest, Simon and Seafort, Sacks, Orso, Glacier Brewhouse, Mooses Tooth Pizza, Kumogoro, Marx Brothers, Humpy's, Savannah Grill, and Bear Tooth.
We need recommendations for 2 Dinners and 2 Lunches in SEWARD. We are staying at the Van gilder but will not have a car. The only good recommendation I have is for Ray's on the Waterfront.
1. Buy a Milepost. It's our bible and will give you good info.
2. Most of your picks are the top tourist places. If you'll be on a cruise anyway, why not seek out the places locals like? Especially if you're already coming from a big city with plenty of great choices, avoid our best restaurants.
3. Seward--Ray's is over-rated. Go a few steps north and experience the seafood at Chinooks. Christo's Palace downtown near the SeaLife Center is actually fun and good.
We live in Anc, have a boat in Seward, and spent a week camping in Fairbanks last summer, so let me think more on the Fb options...
re: AKgalleygirl
You have a decent start. Don't have any current recs for Denali, but it's never had much in terms of good food. Too many buses and tours.
In Anchorage, Orso/Moose's Tooth and Glacier Brewhouse each get a good mix of tourists and locals and are solid but not spectacular. Simon and Seafort's an institution but can be hit or miss.
Consider grabbing some quick stuff, like the reindeer dogs off a street cart or a stop at the Saturday farmer's market. Other considerations: Jen's and, if you're in the mood for a time-warped steak house, Club Paris.
On the way to Seward, stop at the Alyeska bake shop if you're heading down in the a.m. or hit the Double Musky if it's in the evening. There's also a great tram ride to 7 Glaciers but the food is inconsistent -- plus it can be socked in by weather and you'll miss the view.
In Fairbanks, well, good luck. It's just not a big enough area to sustain a lot of great dining although I've had some decent meals there. Hit the salmon bake there, it's tough to mess up.
While I know this isn't a travel forum, the way your time is split seems to be a common visitor mistake -- unless there was some compelling reason to visit. With the amount of time you have you'd have been better either flying into ANC and heading to Denali for a couple of days. That way you could give more time to the Kenai Peninsula, which is much more interesting than the Fairbanks area with trips to Homer (some fun dining options) and sidetrips to places like Halibut Cove and Seldovia, plus great bear viewing options. Great museum in Fairbanks, but otherwise not that much up there. Paddlewheel trip and other excursions are a bit hokey and aimed at the more sedentary set.
On the drive from Denali to Anchorage, hit the historic Talkeetna Roadhouse (best for breakfast or burgers. ). Not fancy but nice atmosphere unless the tour buses are in town.
re: repete
Yeah, I think in Denali I'm pretty much stuck. Reindeer dogs sound cool. We are heading to the market on a sunday morning so we are planning on "grazing" that morning for food.
As for our itinerary, It may not be sexy to the outdoorsy types but when you have two kids, ages 7 and 8, and you and your wife aren't the most outdoorsy types, then this works. Fairbanks sounds boring but when you consider we will spend one day up in the arctic, one day panning for gold and taking a boat and train trip, and a third day at the Fairbanks Musuem, Large Animal Research Center, Ice Musuem, and Pioneer Village... It fills up. Over three weeks in Alaska we will still take two flight seeing tours, check out the bears, hike a glacier, cruise through a glacier, go whale watching, dog sledding, driving through denali, and a bunch of other stuff.. I think we will get alot of Alaska. Now I just have to make sure that we also "taste" Alaska also.
re: Raboi
Many of those touristy attractions--flightseeing, train, boat--include a meal that will satisfy you. Everyplace you're staying has a restaurant, so don't even worry about seeking out something else. The kids will be happiest if you just seek out the ice cream shops everywhere you are--Alaskans eat more ice cream than any other state. You're really focusing on getting the most out of your time sightseeing-wise, so again, you'll have the good food on the ship (hopefully it's one of the better lines), so just focus on looking UP from your plate. There's a lot to see in AK and you'll have a fabulous time.
re: AKgalleygirl
Two recommendations for Fairbanks:
Soupy Smith's right in downtown. Not much on the food, but it's got lot's of memorabilia on the walls.
Silver Gulch Brewery. It's actually in Fox, about 10 miles north of Fairbanks. On the way, you can stop and walk right up to the Alaska pipeline by the side of the road (the stop even has displays). Its a great brewpub, and when we were there, there were tons of families with small kids. It's a fun atmosphere and the food and beer were quite good.
re: AKgalleygirl
All of the places I have listed are based on prior recommendations off of Chowhound. If they are considered touristy and not chowhound worthy, it is not my fault. If you have any better recommendations, I would sincerely appreciate that input.
We haven't lived in Anchorage since 2001, but if the weather is bad or you otherwise want to kill time in ANC ht the Bear Tooth Theater Pub for lunch and a $3 movie (or skip the movie and just have lunch). You can get some pretty yummy options with lots of kid-friendly fare and adults can get some good brew. The kids love to eat a slice of pizza in a movie theater!
Once upon a time there was also a really great drive-through seafood cart about one block from the corner of Nothern Lights and Arctic Boulevard. I loved that place! Super fresh grilled halibut and more. No indoor dining, just a little trailer and a nice big grill. The fish was cooked fresh when you ordered. So many of the seafood restaurants in ANC were really overpriced.
re: laurachow
Yum, looking at the Bear Tooth menu brings back memories. They still have the Wonderful Little Garlic Treats and Blackened Halibut Burritos. Wonder if it is still as yummy as it used to be (back when our friend was the head chef!)?
re: laurachow
Hot Licks is a must to visit while in Fairbanks. They have delicious hand-made ice cream and savory pasties (meat and vegetarian varieties) to satisfy both the sweet tooth and your kids' daily vegetable serving. The pasties are mostly organic, made with veggies and/or meat, cheese and wrapped in a flaky crust...so delish! The ice cream is rBST free cream, so you don't have to worry about any added hormones in the milk. I specifically recommend the Smoked Salmon Pasty, which is made with Wild Caught Alaskan Smoked Salmon, fresh mascarpone cheese, organic potatoes onions and turnips. It's quite a yummy treat and the kids will love it! I recommend going at lunch time. Have fun and say hi to the owner, Geoff, a super chill, great guy.
Hot Licks Homemade Ice Cream
1899 Van Horn Rd, Fairbanks, AK 99701
re: GibsonGirl
Now that sounds like a solid. Their web site only lists ice cream though. Same place?
re: GibsonGirl
So I discovered something interesting about Hot Licks. They also sell their ice cream (just 4 flavors) at the Riverboat Discovery ride and gold dredge places (both are terribly touristy but they were included with our tour). And they only charge $3 for a double scoop at both places! I had the AK Blueberry at the Riverboat place and it was excellent. Then they had the sugar free blueberry at the dredge and the consistency was not nearly as good so we did not buy any. Then we stopped by the actual Hot Licks store (we had a rental car our last day) and discovered a) they do not open until noon, and b) they charge $3 for a single and $6 for a double. So, after having lunch at the Cookie Jar, we went back to the riverboat place on our way to the airport (it's maybe 5 minutes away). The place was empty since the boat was out, but there were a few employees on the floor and one was able to help me. He probably thought I was crazy coming in just for the ice cream.
It was quite good, BTW, especially at $3 for a double!
The Cookie Jar Restaurant
1006 Cadillac Ct, Fairbanks, AK 99701
re: laurachow
As AKgalleygirl mentioned, I much prefer dining at the local spots. Usually better food at a better value. I'm going to be in Fairbanks for 2 days and would appreciate any input. I won't have any kids in tow so the food and a nice atmosphere are much more important than kitchy or entertaining decorations.
Moose's Tooth Pizza was very very good. At lunch, be prepared for a wait. We were there at about 1:30 PM and had to wait about 10-15 minutes for a table. It's very popular. We had a burger at Tommy's Burger Stop that was very decent.
Ray's Waterfront was not very good at all, I would not return. The food was the worst we had in Seward. Resurrection Roadhouse was very good but you'd need transportation to get there. There's a decent place for sandwiches and breakfast items just across from the marina, next door to an ice cream shop. I don't remember the name. It's not far from Ray's, on the other side of the street. They have pastries and muffins, etc.
Tommy's Burger Stop
1106 W 29th Pl, Anchorage, AK 99503
Moose's Tooth
3300 Old Seward Hwy, Anchorage, AK 99503
Resurrection Roadhouse
31772 Herman Leirer Rd, Seward, AK 99664
I travel to ANC quite often. My favorite breakfast place is Snow City. They have great shakes there too. VERY family freindly. When going to Snow City call ahead, they will put you in line so you will not have to wait too long for a table. Simon and Seafort's happy hour is the best deal in town. Marx Brother's still does table side Caesar salads and has an amazing wine list. Thai Kitchen on Tudor is the best Thai in Alaska, and easily some of the best Thai food I have eaten. Orso continually disappoints me, many rave about it, but I have had nothing but 2nd rate experiences. The Glacier Brewhouse next door is a better choice, and the excellence of the beer is not matched in Anchorage. Yes Moose's Tooth has excellent beer, but try the cask conditioned selection at GB and you will not be disappointed. Kobuk Coffee has really good doughnuts and very quaffable espresso. It is a bit touristy for my tastes, but I cannot resist a double shot and an old fashioned doughnut. Humpy's has standard pub grub-what is stellar there is the beer list. If you like beer this is a must. Moose's Tooth is hand down the best pizza in Alaska. The beer is also excellent.
The Crow's Nest is good-especially if you want extra attitude. It has a great view, but Simon and Seafort's does too and it is much friendlier and the food excellent.
In general, avoid the touristy salmon-bake type places. The salmon will be overcooked, overpriced and oversweet. If you can, get Sockeye. If you can smell sweet maple/honey on approach pick a new place.
New Sagaya is a local grocery that has wonderful deli choices. Perfect for picnicking and snacks.
Crow's Nest
939 W 5th Ave, Anchorage, AK 99501
Marx Brothers Cafe
627 W Third Avenue, Anchorage, AK 99501
Thai Kitchen
3405 E Tudor Rd, Anchorage, AK 99507
Glacier Brewhouse
737 W. 5th Ave, Anchorage, AK 99501
Snow City Cafe
1034 W 4th Ave, Anchorage, AK 99501
re: El_Boorba
Here's another vote for New Sagaya. There's a small cafe there and it's always filled with locals grabbing a quick breakfast or lunch. And just as El Boorba says, it's perfect for picking up picnic items to take with you on your road trip north.
As for the rest of your trip -
Yes, Alaska is touristy. I suppose you can drive yourself nuts trying to avoid tourist spots, or you can just relax and go with the flow and decide that there must be a reason why people come from so far to see them. We lived there for four years and I honestly believe everybody we ever knew took that opportunity to visit us. After hauling visitors around for four years, I can tell you what were hits, especially since you're traveling with kids.
In Fairbanks: There's nothing wrong with the Riverboat Discovery. I'll bet I've been on it more than a dozen times, and always find something new and interesting to see or hear or learn. The kids will love seeing the fish wheels working.
Chena Pump House in Fairbanks. We were locals. We loved sitting out on that back deck sipping a Hot Apple Pie and watching the boats pass and the floatplanes land.
Fairbanks Salmon Bake. Touristy? You betcha. But I had three teenagers to fill up and they sure could do it there. The salmon is tasty. The beef ribs and sides not so much - although who goes to Alaska for beef ribs and limp cole slaw and mediocre baked beans anyway? But that deep fried halibut? That is the halibut of my dreams. Biting through the crunchy coating into steaming hot soft pillows of snowy white fish? Absolute heaven. Skip the sides. Fill up on the halibut. Then tuck into the cake with the fresh blueberry sauce. I don't care if virtual hoards of rubber-tire tourists surround me. That halibut is ambrosial and I won't apologize to anybody for loving it.
Malemute Saloon. Whoop it up with a bunch of the boys at the Malemute Saloon. It's a great time. You'll love it. The kids will love it. I love it. Over and over and over, I loved it. I loved it then and I love it still.
If you can find somebody to babysit the kids, Mom and Dad should down a brewski or two at the Howling Dog. A true Alaskan bar.
Drive up to the old Chatanika Gold Camp bunkhouse for a great breakfast of sourdough pancakes. They have a terrific Sunday Brunch, and we never went a month in the summertime without driving up there at least once. Seeing that old stove that runs the length of the bunkhouse is worth the drive all by itself. http://fairbanks-alaska.com/fe-compan...
For special evenings, if we didn't go to the Chena Pump House, we took the short drive out Chena Hot Springs Road to Two Rivers Lodge. Wonderful food and a great atmosphere. If your goal is avoid tourists, there are not a lot at Two Rivers. I think that's because it's well off the proverbial beaten path. You have to know about it and you have to have a car to get there. But it's been the place where Fairbanksians go for birthdays, anniversaries, office Christmas parties, etc., for many years. http://www.tworiverslodge.com/
In Anchorage, take the kids up the Alyeska ski lift. What a view.
Pick up some souvenirs from Skinny Dick's Halfway Inn on your drive up to Fairbanks. It comes by the name honestly. It's owned by a fellow named Dick, who indeed is extremely skinny, and the Inn is halfway between Fairbanks and Nenana. Items from Skinny Dick's never fail to attract attention in the L48. And if you've got a slightly juvenile brother-in-law with questionable taste for whom you need to bring back a souvenir, trust me, he'll love anything with Skinny's logo.
Here are our notes from 3 trips to Alaska, in 1999, 2000, & 2006.
Glacier Brewpub: huge, but surprisingly good
Marx Brothers: absolutely yes, probably the best in town
Moose's Tooth Brewpub: fine pizza & craft beers, especially their Pipeline Stout
Southside Bistro: noisy but good
"New Sagaya is a local grocery that has wonderful deli choices. Perfect for picnicking and snacks." Quite agreed!
Glacier Brewpub & Moose's Tooth would probably be ok with kids (we don't have'em so don't know for sure). Marx Brothers would be good anywhere in the Lower 48, much less in Anchorage, but you might want to poke around online (Google, TripAdvisor, &c) to see if it'll suit you as a family.
Lynx Creek Pizza: eh
Nenana Bar & Grill: ok pizza
Rose's Café (Healy): decent
The Denali area is heavily touristed & at best average for food. Nuff said. Bring picnic supplies from Anchorage & you'll be (far!) better off.
Chinook's: eh
Ray's: eh to bad
Terry's Fish & Chips: fine for the $
Again, as you know, there are 1-3+ HUGE boats a day pulling in & out & the place can be literally overrun with tourists. Hardly a good way to keep a good restaurant in business. Maybe you can find something good there, & report back? If you like aquariums, the one here is very well done.
I can't offer any expertise for Fairbanks or Denali, but seeing as I live in Anchorage and often had layovers in Seward as a tour guide on the Alaska Railroad, I can offer a few opinions in those two cities.
In Anchorage --as you have heard multiple times on this list already, Moose's Tooth and Bear's Tooth are both excellent, but also popular hotspots for locals. You can't make a reservation (except with very large groups?) at either, so it is best to expect a wait, possibly a fairly significant one, at dinnertime. I haven't ever had to wait more than about five or ten minutes at lunch. Nonetheless, you can grab some of their well known beer (or excellent rootbeer for the kids) and hang out in the beautiful Alaska summertime weather. Neither restaurant is directly downtown, so that is certainly something to keep in mind.
I do personally really love Simon's, though I have heard slightly mixed or blah reviews of the food, I have had overall good experiences, and it might be worth it just for the view. Ask for a table near the windows.
Additionally Glacier Brewhouse always seems to be a hit, a variety of well done dishes, nothing particularly revolutionary, but all very enjoyable.
I second repete's recommendation to get reindeer sausage's from a street vendor. MA's is an anchorage institution of a hot dog stand. He alway's sets up on the corner of 4th and G. You will be able to tell which one he is because the line for his stand is three times longer than anyone else's. Get a reindeer sausage, and say yes when he asks if you want onions, they are sauteed in coca cola and surprisingly awesome.
On the topic of Seward, since you seem to have gotten mostly warnings and few recommendations at this point, I will try to contribute. I really enjoyed Yoly's Bistro during my time, its on 4th avenue. Eclectic menu, but all delicious and very fresh.
Sweet Darlings is a can't miss. Practically across the street from Yoly's, it is a candy shop with delicious handmade candy and lovely gelato. Alaskans are an ice cream loving bunch, and Sweet Darlings is a lovely way to satisfy the craving.
Apollo's is a place to get decent pizza and greek food. Not an inspiring choice, but not bad either. The Sea Bean is a nice coffee shop, great if its raining outside and you need a respite, they have a bookshelf full of travel books and a strange other assortment as well as board games to play if it is pouring. The Sea Life center is a good aquarium/research center. Go enjoy the interesting exhibits, ask about the research.
At some point during your trip you should definitely make sure to get halibut fish and chips. Because ultimately, halibut makes really great fish and chips.
Moose's Tooth
3300 Old Seward Hwy, Anchorage, AK 99503
Glacier Brewhouse
737 W. 5th Ave, Anchorage, AK 99501
Yoly's Bistro
220 4th Ave, Seward, AK 99664
here's the link for Yoly's address. I don't know why it isn't giving a place marker link.
Yoly's Bistro
220 4th Ave, Seward, AK 99664
re: akdancer49
Thanks for the recommendation for Sweet Darlings. Sounds perfect for the kids after a long day and its very close to our Hotel.
Quick search on Yoly's looks like it closed down.
re: Raboi
http://www.yolysbistro.com/index.php I don't know if you saw some news article, but it appears to be open judging from their website, it is also possible that it might be closed for winter... I don't know what you found in your web search.
re: akdancer49
Seward: Definitely the Exit Glacier Salmon Bake. Locals recommended it to us and we agree. Good fish, good beer, Alaskan decor (?). Not cheap, but nothing in AK is. It is good value compared to fancier places, however.
Keep in mind that fish is seasonal. When the fisheries are closed, the fish will be frozen. Everywhere.
re: akdancer49
They were empty and looked done. I really enjoyed their food. Won't do Rays...
In Denali, consider eating your lunches at the Great Alaska Fish and Chips Company (across the street from the Chalet) and Bub's Subs (near the Lynx Creek Store). If you will have a car in Denali, you owe it to yourselves to drive to 229 Parks (about 9 miles south of the Chalet) for dinner. I would go so far as to say that it is one of the best restaurants in all of Alaska.
Without a car, you could do worse than a meal at the Crow's Nest (not related to the place in Anchorage) or the Salmon Bake (not a salmon bake). If the weather is very nice, go to the Base Camp Bistro and order them to seat you outside (don't bother eating there otherwise). The fish and chips place is open into the evening, so dinner there is also a viable option for the non-Cabin Nite meal.
For a real Alaskan experience, drive up to Healy and eat a meal at the Totem (in the bar, if they'll let you). Better still, drive up to the Clear Sky Lodge for a steak dinner. A few years ago, the bartender shot a bear less than a hundred yards from the front door.
229 Parks
Parks Hy, Healy, AK 99743
Clear Sky Lodge
Mi 280 Park Hwy, Anderson, AK 99744
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229 agreed!!! I don't care if you have to bike, walk, take a cab, or hitch-hike there... you gotta go!!! It's absolutely incredible. I took my boyfriend there yesterday and he wouldn't stop saying "oh my god this is amazing.." and we just spent 5 weeks driving from colorado to alaska and eating at as many recommended places a possible. Try the homemade salted caramel ice cream!!!!!!!!!!!
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Wow, this is a great thread! We will also be in Alaska this summer, although we only have 4 nights to deal with, 2 in Denali and 2 in Fairbanks (plus 7 on the cruise). I found out this week that our park tour leaves between 1:30-3:30pm and is 6-8 hours so dinner is going to be difficult that night and a big lunch might be a better idea (especially if we get on the 3:30 tour, they tell us when we get to the hotel apparently). For the other night, I had been considering the Salmon Bake but the 229 place sounds great if there is a shuttle (I just emailed the restaurant to ask). And we could certainly do a big lunch at the Fish & Chips place, which I'd also read about. I noticed on another site that McKinley Creekside Cafe is their #1 place. I have zero interest in the Cabin Nite thing or eating at the hotel.
I also found out that we're on the 4pm train from Denali to Fairbanks, which means an 8pm (or later) arrival in Fairbanks and more dinner questions. I had posted on another board that I guess I could be relegated to dinner on the train, and was told by several people that the food on the HAL train cars is very good and "relegated" is not an appropriate term. And I guess given that options in Fairbanks it probably won't be much worse (or more expensive) than I'll find there. The Hot Licks place sounds great -- will have to figure out how far that is from our hotel (the Westmark). Worst case, I hope to have a car our last day there because our flight is at 5:15pm so I can drive there. I was actually considering driving to Chena, so we could have lunch there.
We have 2 lunches included on our cruisetour. One is in Wasilla en route from the ship to Denali. Not sure where but hopefully it will be edible. The other is at the Gold Dredge where we allegedly get a miners lunch which I've read is stew. I hope they have other choices as well.
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Unless shuttle service has expanded in the last year or two, you probably won't be able to get to 229 Parks or the Creekside Cafe without a car. Someone who's really determined might be able to take advantage of the Salmon Bake shuttle or shuttles that may or may not exist between the tourist area and the Denali Cabins or Carlo Creek Cabins, but no promises (ARAMARK's shuttle only goes as far as the McKinley Village, which would be an unpleasant 2-mile walk to 229 Parks).
Late-night dining at Denali is an interesting experience. The Salmon Bake and Lynx Creek Pizza are the locals' hang-outs, though only the former serves edible food. As a HAL guest, I assume you're staying at the Chalet and will thus tell you that the Chalet's bar has (had?) "Hungry Hour" after 10 or 11, during which some of the bar menu is 50% off. The caribou burger tastes pretty good when it only costs $6.
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Thanks for the info, and yes we are at the Chalet. As much as I'd like to try 229, I'm not walking 2 miles to eat there, even if it were pleasant. And it looks like Hungry Hour only starts at 11 and I think I can safely say that my family will not wait until then to eat. So I guess I have to figure out the best food I can get to by shuttle for the first night in Denali (when we should be arriving by 6). I cannot see any reason to go to Cabin Nite, either for the entertainment or food.
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Regarding Cabin Nite...
Yep, pretty hokey. Food pretty average.
But hey, there ain't that much competition for things to do at night there. It's not like you're staying in Manhattan, you know.
So for me, Cabin Nite is a "oh why not" kinda thing.
re: lavaca
So, we are back. I tried to eat at the Chalet's bar at 11pm. We were on the 3:10pmTundra Wilderness Tour and I figured we'd get back at 11pm and it would be perfect. Well, we were back by 10 so I had to kill an hour. Around 10:50 my son and I went back to the main lobby and were sitting around. Shortly before 11 we walked in. The first thing we saw was a sign saying it may be illegal for anyone under the age of 21 to enter (he is 19). Then we saw that there were no tables available (there are maybe 6 total), and I am not even sure there were seats at the bar (which would probably not have been a good idea given his age). So I left without eating. BTW they do not have caribou burgers, they are beef.
We did eat at Prospectors Pizza across the street from the McKinley Chalets and it was excellent. I had been told by 2 people on our tour that they had eaten there and had a good meal so I figured it was worth eating at (our tour guide had also suggested it, I put less credence in that). Also ate at the Salmon Bake for dinner (pretty good, although I think their "famous" fish tacos would have been better if it was grilled fish rather than fried), and the Fish & Chips place for lunch (we had planned to go back and get a small pizza in addition, but we were all full so we never got back there).
re: MisterBill2
No more caribou burgers? Sad. I guess I will stop telling people to go there - the other Hungry Hour deals are less exciting.
re: lavaca
It did not say caribou and did say Angus, so I assume not. I actually wanted the wings. Then I chose not to eat dinner on the train going to Fairbanks, and when we got the hotel there (at 8:30pm) their restaurant didn't even have wings on the menu! Fortunately we had eaten a big lunch.
re: lavaca
I would like to continue to confirm from this 2010 post that 229 Parks is still a fantastic place to eat in 2014, and that you would be greatly remiss to be near Denali and not take advantage of having a meal there. We ate there last week with a group of 7 people, everyone having something different, and the flavors and presentation were fantastic. Nothing else in 10 days in Alaska (Anchorage, Seward, other places around Denali) came close, easily the best place we ate.
Some of the things we enjoyed:
king crab cakes
razor clams
chicken under brick
house made blue cheese pasta
steak baguette
dill soup
sweet and spicy ribs
And a chocolate pot de creme dessert that was one of the best things I have ever put into my mouth.
Super highly recommended!!
re: matt7631
I'm not likely to be back in Denali anytime in the foreseeable future, but how would one get to 229 Parks from the hotel area if you do not have a car, other than walking? Are there cabs? As I said in my post 4 years ago, it was 2 miles from our hotel.
Before I moved to Fairbanks I used to eat out once or twice a week, now it is maybe once every six weeks or so (with the exception of girls night out once a week). There are very few "good" restaurants. Luckily, one of the best is Zack's in the Sophie Station. My girlfriends and I go to Zach's every Thursday after work and they always do a steller job.
Anything that appears even remotely touristy is going to cost you a small fortune and the food will be mediocre at best. Sam's Sourdough Cafe' used to be good, but since they rebuilt they are incredibly overpriced. Expect to pay about $14 a person for breakfast and it isn't anything special. I have also found Pike's to be overpriced and nothing special. I can not comment on Lavelle's. That said, here is what I would recommend....
With a car I would highly recommend Chatanika Gold Camp. It is about an hour drive from Fairbanks, but a beautiful one and a great perspective of the mining history of the area, you also get to pass the Pipeline on the way. The place is owned by this wonderful Austrian couple and the food is quite authentic. I have only every had the Goulash and the Wiener Schnitzel, both were great, but after having the Schnitzel I can't order anything else. It is the best I have ever had anywhere in the world including Europe.
Azucar Fina is a phenomenal Cuban Restaurant. The service has been slow when I have been there, but it is always worth the wait. I recommend the Papusas. It is located in the strip mall on College Road and University.
Ajimi is a great place for Sushi. Always fast and friendly service. I would not recommend eating sushi anywhere else in Fairbanks.
For lunch or breakfast choices I recommend checking out some of the local color: There are two stands on College Road. One called Bun on the Run which serves breakfast pastries and great sandwiches on homemade buns for lunch. The other is the pita place which has wonderful falafel sandwiches.
In addition, LuLu's Bages and Lemongrass for Thai Food are good selections as well. Don't forget the Farmer's Market on Wednesdays, Saturdays, and Sundays if you are in town. They have a large variety of food vendors. I will also give a huge thumbs up for 229 when you are in Denali.
BTW...I do not agree with the person who recommended the Milepost for suggestions unless you are looking for tourist traps.
I can't believe I almost forgot Two Rivers Lodge, again it is a drive, but worth it if you want a good dinner.
Sam's Sourdough Cafe
3702 Cameron St, Fairbanks, AK 99709
re: Arctic Garden
I agree that flying into an Alaskan town and pulling out a Milepost to see if there are any good restaurants there is not the best idea.
But these people are Lower 48'ers driving around the state.
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Glad that you responded so quickly. I am very excited that we might get to share information about our common heritage. I am on ancestry.com and will add your email as a guest to my page. Plus I manage a closed Facebook page called Preston Family Stories. Just send a request and I'll gladly add you. I actually lived at the homeplace at Williamsport until I married. My sister inherited it after Mom passed away. Sadly it burned down earlier this year. I believe there were actually 5 generations of Prestons and descendants who lived there through the years after G.L. and Julina built the house after the property was given to them by her father. Before I forget, here is a copy of Nola's obituary....
Mrs. L. T Preston Dies Sun., May 5 …… Mother of 10, Victim of Short Illness
Mrs. Nola Lemaster Preston, 49, died in her home in Williamsport at 3 A.M. May 5, after a short illness.
Mrs. Preston was the wife of Rev. L T Preston. She was born on November 21, 1896 at Fuget, the daughter of R. M. and Lydia McKenzie Lemaster.
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Surviving besides her husband are nine children, Cecil, Rosco and Wayne, city, Richard, Ypsilanti, Mi, Ray, Hager Hill. Mrs. Hammie Price, Williamsport, Helen, Guy and Floretta at home. Another daughter, Julia Lee, preceded her in death on October 1936. She is also survived by her mother, Mrs. Lydia Clark, and two sisters, Mrs. Fred McClure, Thealka and Mrs. A. L. Brooks, Paintsville.
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High school students looking to get ahead before they embark on their college careers can begin as early as Spring 2015 to earn college credit with Pitman High School and Turlock High School's soon-to-be implemented college course offerings.
A fraternity at California State University, Stanislaus has found the perfect reason to jump for joy with its 3rd annual Jump for Jude fundraising event. For 30 hours, members from Tau Kappa Epsilon will be jumping on a trampoline to raise money for St. Jude Children's Research Hospital.
An estimated 250 teachers gathered to the tune of Aretha Franklin's "Respect" before Tuesday's Turlock Unified District Board of Trustees meeting in an effort to demand just that from the district.
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