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Who Shot Nancy Botwin on the Weeds Season 7 Finale?! Bring Your Theories| September 26, 2011 at 10:30 PM EST
Who shot Nancy Botwin?! It's the BOOM heard round the TV universe. Weeds season 7 literally ended with a bang. Or is it more accurately described as a boom? I'm not really a gun aficionado so I don't know the right terminology. But can I just say: OMFG.
At the end of Weeds season 7, we see that Nancy and her sister have moved to a giant estate in Connecticut. Jill's daughters are there. Stevie is there (hi, Stevie!) Andy and Doug are there, although whether they both live there is unknown. We see Shane and Silas, although Nancy tells Silas he doesn't have to stay there. So… it's a whole new little family. And they seem happy, for once. Andy made Jill compromise. And we all took a collective exhale.
Until we saw a red dot on Nancy's forhead. But that turned out to be a laser pointer from one of Jill's kids. Whew.
And then. When you think you're safe and we're going to rest easy, we see that someone is hiding in the bushes, looking through the crosshairs of a gun, at Nancy. And then we hear the shot after the screen goes black.
Did Nancy get shot? Is it possible the person was only looking at Nancy but aimed at someone else? Sure. But that would be a bit of a cheat. Nancy Botwin was the likely subject. And if the person made their shot, then Nancy.. is dead? Except, that isn't possible. But maybe she's maimed. And this all leads to one big question:
Who Shot Nancy? Or Who Hired Someone to Shoot Nancy?
- Jill Price Grey – We have no shortage of suspects. We can rule out the people sitting at the table with her…or can we? Any one of them (cough, Jill, cough) could have hired a hit man. Would Jill really want her sister dead? …Maybe. And then she'd get the whole compound, and Stevie to herself.
- Esteban Reyes Daughter – She never liked Nancy.
- Peter Scottson's Son – Another who didn't like Nancy.
- Celia Hodes – Maybe she's had a nervous breakdown, or discovered a talent for weaponry?
- Isabelle Hodes - She had a bad childhood.
- Heylia James
- Cesar – He actually might be dead, I forget…
- Lupita – Because the Botwin's can't get rid of her
- Guillermo Garcia Diaz – I googled to double check, and it appears this character isn't dead.
- Emma of Pouncy House – She wants retribution, yea?
- Zoya
- Dean Hodes – He seems pretty forgiving, but he is under the impression that his ribs were broken because of Nancy.
- Dimitri
- Jill's Husband
Who do you think shot at Nancy?
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198 Responses to "Who Shot Nancy Botwin on the Weeds Season 7 Finale?! Bring Your Theories"
uhhh….its obviously not any of those people that would be retarded.
Looked like Jill's husband..
it was yo ase
Maybe it was meant to be ambiguous like that. She amassed so many enemies over the years. Is it unthinkable that someone would want to kill her at any given moment?
If that was the series finale, I am satisfied.
Guillermo,or demitris sister
I am hoping it has something to do w/ Guillermo or Celia seeing how we haven't heard about either in awhile and they were both big parts of the show! Glad it wasn't the last season this year! Peace!
It looked like one of the guys from demitris apartment. Their ex military, it makes the most sense.
I think Guillermo hired someone to do it. He had wanted nancy dead for awhile, and the ending of season 6 was the last straw. He probably had just found out where she lived. He would have done it himself, but he is probably still in jail.
I have to agree it did look like someone to do with demitri. i doubt it would be her sister jill because it seems like everyone is getting what they wanted (notice they were both called momma and mommy by stevie). Although demitri was said to be locked away for 5-10 years and the ct house was only a two month time change i like to think it was an associate of his because he probably blames nancy for getting locked up.
i'll go with Dimtri (or one of his gang), or Jill's husband (we didn't see him at the new compound, did we?).
Wrong. The shooter gets shot by Shane's professor. Classic bait and switch. See you next season.
The old cop told Shane that he was about to take Nancy down and then Shane yelled to him that he had something that he would want. He then went to the police academy. Is that what the old cop would have wanted so bad that he wouldn't take down Nancy? He had just got finished ripping into shane about how much he distrusted him and how he was going to ruin him. Why would he want him to go the police academy? Why did shane hide the police academy hat in his bag and then lie about why he was late for dinner at the end? I didn't quite understand this part, maybe I missed something.
shooter looks jusssst like tim scottson to me! he never did get back at nancy for causing his father's death…
I was thinking the cop as well, but the more I think about it, the more I disbelieve it because it seems to be what they want you to think….in true weeds fashion, I don't think it to be that obvious
Nancy's Baby Daddy, from Mexico
What the cop wanted from Shane was obviously an insider in the drug world. He has an easy access through his mom. I think its safe to rule out the police/government. I definitely think it has to do with Guillermo or Esteban, they definitely cannot be happy that she got away with being killed and got them both arrested.
I bet Esteban Reyes is not dead.
I think Guirremo was going to take the shot but then the old cop shot him. Guirremo would have been what the old cop wanted – or what the other scorned copy wanted. Either way, if he shot first, maybe we can keep Nancy:)
I thiok nancy is going into witness protection and jill is taking over the family. Jills always been jealous of nancy
Esteban. We never saw him die. We were just told about it.
I think Esteban has been in the relocation program, or being hidden by another organization. He's not head. However, I don't think it was Esteban who killed Nancy. Esteban was never a big fan of Pilar. His only reason for being mad at Nancy was because of his son.
The question that needs answer is, what did Detective Oullette really want?
Detective really wanted a son and Shane, a father. Could be Jills hubby seeing as he didn't have any rhyme or reason during the season but he was there for something. I honestly doubt if any of our suggestions will be accurate but it's fun to guess.
It might have been her "late" husband, Esteban. We never saw him die. All we heard about was the DEA Agent at the beginning of the season, telling us that he was killed in prison. That's exactly what they'd say if he was actually being put into witness protection. Also, Jennifer Jason Leigh mentions just a few scenes earlier that Nancy is married to a Mexican Drug Lord. Feels like some foreshadowing.
So, I say… Esteban.
Who says it has to be nancy, it be shot to look that way and it was really doug who was the one shot at by his partner.
Revenge, someone connected to Pilar Suaso
Tim Scottsman
Take a look at the snapshot:
Then take a look at what he looks nowadays:
Similar ear and eyebrow shape
Jill was shot by someone that Nancy hired.
Shane is a killer. He may have sold out his Mom to Ouellette.
Jenji said that it was someone from a past season (www.sho.com)
Here is a screenshot of the shooter:
Curly, longish hair. Im going with Tim Scottson
Jenji Kohan, the creator of Weeds, has stated the gunman is someone from past seasons, which eliminates everyone on that list besides the Reyes family, the Scottsons, Celia, Cesar, Lupita, and Guillermo.
Dimitri's sister/Nancy's lesbian lover?
Maaaaaaaaaan thats some ol' bullshit how are you just ganna kill the bitch AN NOT LET ANYONE KNOW WHO IT IS MISS JENJI CREATOR LADY PERSON GET OFF UR ASS AND MAKE ANOTHER ENDIG OR BETTER YET ANOTHER SEASON THANKS
Peter's son.
I think it was Nancy's second husband the DEA agent's son? Is that TIM SCOTTSON? But i thought it was Botwin not Scottson??
It's Oulette's son. He's scared to death of Shane, it was Shane not Nancy that was shot. He was just a horny teen checking her out!
The shot happened as Shane showed up for dinner, late. It was Oulette's son gunning for Shane
It was Demitris sister for sure, because, if everyone remembers she wanted to move to Connecticut with Nancy and live in a "cute" little home and start some weird business with dogs (or something). Nancy lied to her and told her to go without her because of the fire. And she was obsessed with Nancy to the point where she could totally kill her. Plus, if she lives in Connecticut it is totally possible she heard that Nancy moved there and went to seek revenge for Nancy lying to her and not being "hers." That is my theory and I am sticking to it haha!
It was YOUR MOM, with the rifle, in the billiard room, with Colonel Oulette
I am going to have to agree with just ONE of those people and that would be Peter Scottson's son. Everyone else is either DEAD or does NOT match the image of the person we saw with the gun…. Couldn't be Celia, Heylia, Guillermo, because they do not match the image. Females – out unless someone hired a hitman. Guillermo – out because he has no hair The only ONE that makes sense would be Scottson's Son because he would be seeking Vengeance. I can't count out hitmen or the fact that Shane may have knowingly or un-knowingly brought someone to the party with him. Who knows. Hopefully they sign on for another season and we learn more.
I think that the shooter was Roy Till from the DEA in Season Four…his partner was killed because of Nancy's connection to Esteban, and he vowed to kill everyone who was responsible. This would explain why Esteban is dead, and the gunman could look like Roy Till if you look the right way.
if they decide not to make any more seasons then they will leave it like this looking like nancy was killed but they could bring a season 8 and i bet what happened was someone was about to shoot nancy and then shane was walking up since he just pulled up and was getting out of the car and then shane shot the sniper instead of the gunshot being from the sniper
Looked to me like a youngish light skinned male with brown hair on the curly side and brown eyes. Could be Guillermo, if he let his hair grow out. Now I've got to start from S1E1 to figure it out. What about Doug's son, Josh?
I think the cop that was watching over Shane ended up shooting the gunman looking at Nancy. It would make for a great twist without killing of the main character.
What if… Nancy hired a hitman to kill Jill? Or, the shooter could be Jills husband. Or, a hitman for anyone of the mexicans. All I know is that I want to see season 8! I missed celia, and reyes (he's so not dead!) and heylia's son, etc… This was a great season finale, but a suckass series finale!
What about Chester from Season 3? The biker gang leader that she disrespected and burned down their compound ultimately changing the show forever? Why hasn't anyone thought that maybe that biker gang has been waiting for revenge? The sniper looked JUST like Rodney Rowland, the actor he played Chester. That biker gang changed the show forever. Can't believe everyone totally forgot such a big part of the shows last 4 seasons. She would have never had to leave Agrestic had it not been for them.
What if it was Jill and Andy, after having their "private" talk. Andy really did want to raise the baby a season or two back. Andy and Jill have been behind Nancy picking up her shit, they both were raising her sons and she just comes back and screws the kids' lives up again.
Well after reading all these, the one with the photo comparisons wins my vote. Tim Scottsmen makes sense…he was kind of Shane's equal and look how he turned out? Plus his dad got killed so easily and with so little regret on any of the Botwin's part. Some of these other guesses are kind of nutty. Why Oulette's son? he didn't seem like a killer at all. The other possibility is the DEA agent whose lover was killed…
we never saw the shooting, we just heard it. how do we know anyone got shot at the table?
my thought is that someone was watching over the botwin family and the shot was of the gunman him/herself getting shot. does that make sense?
DEA agent Roy Till is dead. Esteban had him killed after he invaded nancy's home and kinda gay wrestled with Ignacio. Tim Scottson is a definite possibility!
I agree with the Scottsmen theory. I also agree that they left it open in case they are not signed on for another season, but most likely they will be. I hope that they have another season because I personally would not like the whole series to end this way, let's just hope Showtime feels the same way.
My guess is Doug's old friend and partner at that investment firm, who took the fall (as SEC lady said someone had to, and it doesn't look like it was Doug). So Doug or Nancy was probably his target.
It was a young, light skinned male with brownish/red curly hair. CLEARLY, it's the dude from Spy Kids.
And I'm sure the writers got a lot of info from all this…
#40 is a good suspect, however the sniper riffle may not have been the gunshot heard off camera. Shane was quoted saying he had something the cop wanted – a son. That was why he was at the academy. Hiding the cap just meant he didn't want to hear any crap about it from mom. I'm getting to the point… Now the cop has nothing but distrust for Shane, so he follows him home to verify his sincerity – cops are stalkers like that. So while creeping around the 'compound', he sees the sniper and takes him out.
Just my take on it. Personally, I felt like that was not their strongest season. It started out a little slow and could have gone so much further. It was like they changed writers or something. This last season just didn't have the same flair and suspense the others had. Or maybe it's just that they left season 6 with such high expectations. I don't know. I was just happy to see them all back for another 13 episodes. Now I can't wait for the next season of Californication due in Jan!
It would be someone that she screwed over directly and more impactfully – and Heylia just wants to be rid of them. I don't think Scottson's son would be the one, nor Celia, Dean, Heylia. I hope it's someone connected to Guillermo / Pilar (they were some of the best villains) – since she was still arrested for murdering her and turning on so many of the gang… multiple times. Makes the most sense, Esteban and Pilar being are only a part of it. A lot of people absolutely hated the protection she got under Esteban, especially Guillermo (though I think he'd want to bring her fear than have hear killed from a distance).
Showtime needs to be more original and not steal storylines/cliffhangers from AMC (*cough*BREAKING BAD*cough*). This is lame. Weeds isn't even in the same league as Breaking Bad and now they are going to be compared.
It's George "Agent Fundis" Fundislavsk who will burp and miss the shot. He has every reason plus some to hate Nance.
I am no expert on guns by any means, but if you look at the snapshot (http://i.imgur.com/m8LbZ.jpg), doesn't that have a silencer on it. We heard a shot. I believe this is Tim (wonder where his crazy mother is?) and I am with the person who thinks the cop followed Shane there and took the sniper out.
I just don't think Nancy Botwin would have such an easy death, honestly.
I think there will be a season 8. The way Jenji Kohan has talked about it and also the Showtime executive stating he is "optimistic" for another season.
I really don't think they'd leave us hanging after 7 years; however, they did cancel "United States of Tara" after 3 seasons, but the finale pretty much wrapped it all up.
Just some opinions and thoughts. :]
1. We know the person aiming the rifle and scope is left handed.
2. The shot may have been from his gun or another.
3. The person using the rifle and scope does have curly hair.
4. The rifle appears to have a silencer on it, making it not likely to be the loud shot heard.
Jenji Kohan said it was someone who was in the series in the past. And their role is coming back. I'm curious and I jumped with a little scream when I heard the shot.
I'm set on the idea that it is not from a past enemy…that it will possibly be someone from the past but will be the new enemy. I don't think resurrecting an old enemy that came and went would be a good plot for a season 8.
It was Tim Scottson (DEA Peter's Son). Here is the photo of the shooter http://i.imgur.com/m8LbZ.jpg Now look at the photo of Tim on IMDB http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0754512/ Same nose, eyebrows and hair!
I don't care who shot her (if she got shot), but I think "Who Killed Nancy Botwin" would make a cracker of a season!
I feel certain micro clues were inserted into the scene to prove my theory.
In fact no one at the table was shot!
The sniper rifle had a suppressor (silencer) attached to the front, the shot you heard would have not been produced by the lurker in the bushes. In fact he was at the receiving end of that shot you heard.
There is a trained police graduate (shane) in the scene, he most likely would have a gun and use it, he is a killer after all. Right as Shane is parking in front of the house in conn. and during his academy flash back the instructor says "you are the last line of defense" to everyone.
Shane took that shot to keep from being shot, probably was someone out to get revenge for killing Pilar. Or possibly Tim Scottson after Nancy for being involved in Peter's death. Regardless of who or why no one but the lurker was shot.
Who got Shot?!! I hope its not Nancy or one of the kids the show needs to bring Conrad and some of the old people back I love this show but it needs to be a hour long…if Nancy did get shot dont let her die!!
The rifle had a silencer on it no way it would've made that sound
I really don't think it will be the end of the series. If it was, they would have actually showed Nancy getting shot, and the family jumping up to her and then change to black.
I mean, unless it all ends with Nancy giving up on being a dealer and everybody living happily ever after(unlikely), its going to end with her death.
It could be Tim, but my first reaction is that he looks like its a middle age man, from what I can see. But you never know, Tim Scottson definitely has a reason to kill Nancy.
I kind of hope its Jill ;]
it was obciously esteban. looked like him from what was shown. the mexican music kinda gave it away… and he has some unfinished business with her because of his son and she put him in jail.. they said he was dead but who knows never saw proof or a body.. if it was him and there's gonnna be a season 8. then its goin to be a good one!
Im thinking if its someone from a previous season its
Andys dad/Nancys father in law
this (defiantly) makes no sense because he's dead but the gunman looked like Nancy's first husband from season 1 (Shane's father) who died of a heat attack. but that's just from the appearance. it could be anyone. btw i read that Jenji said the end of s7 will end the show perfectly or or lead into season 8 perfectly. i'm happy with the ending of a great show, but more weeds would be nice (not unless s8 is shit and they kill the show)
If it was Esteban, he would have shown up a lot earlier in the season, I think. He could have easily had her killed as soon as she was out of jail.
nancy's teacher!
i'm pretty certain that esteban was killed in prison while nancy was in prison.
nancy's crazy teacher is an awesome theory, but the shooter had too much hair and darker skin. but like i said, very creative thinking.
weeds is so much better than breaking bad
Ok so the shot comparing peters son and the guy with the gun is really similar .. but the fact that the gun has a silencer on it is weird. I don't think Shane killed him first and I don't think he was hiding the hat that was just a way to flashback to him in the academy. How could he have hidden that from his family where did he stay while he was training? I think they know he's a cop. Also nancys dumb for setting up Silas with a drug shop he's smart n she's just a bad mom n setting him up to fail or get on trouble. Lastly I don't think we're supposed to know who killed her (she's selfish she deserved it after all the ppl she screwed over ) I think its just supposed to illustrate the point that you don't get this many 'do overs' and she wasn't safe anymore. Ah I can't believe it ended like that jenji confirmed it was cancelled too. And I hope andys raising the baby with that girl- remember her baby bump at the funeral?
I'm not sure why ppl keep saying Roy Til (?) He was killed off by Ignazio & Esteban in S5. I agree w/ the Tim Scottson theories, but the 1st time I paused the shooter, & I said from ep 1 that Esteban is not dead, that straight shaped nose & face shape says Esteban for me. All the way! No one has mentioned that one chick being preggers at the funeral either. By a guy named "Lanny"? Sounds like Andy to me. That could be another good plotline for s8. I don't like this ending. Too many unanswered questions that are making all of us write these guesses/comments…
EVERYONE HERE NEEDS TO WATCH THIS BEFORE TALKING! it's from the weeds showtime webstie http://bcove.me/686d7jyr
Esteban doesn't have curly brown hair, unless he hired someone. But that's all if he's not dead
I think it was Esteban! He is the one with the most motive. He went to prison and lost his son. Nancy turned his world upside down and took the one thing that he wanted all along. His son. I don't think he is dead. . . that would have been way too easy. How she just got to get out because he was killed by fellow prison mates? Yeah, that has fake death written all over it. He was in the mexican mafia for goodness sake!!!
it even looked like Esteban!!
If Estaban isn't dead, and his 'fake death' was a ploy to get Nancy out in the open where he could kill her, I think he would have done it as soon as he could. Plenty of time and opportunity has passed in this season. I personally think season 6 is too recent. It would be a lot more entertaining to have characters from the first few seasons so I think it is definitely Tim. Back when he was on the show, he just disappeared without his anger at Nancy being resolved, and its really the only loose end that makes sense. Now is a good time to bring him back.
I think it was Tim Scottson who fired the shot at the end. Jenji had stated how it was someone from an earlier season and to go back. The shooter appeared to have dark curly hair like Tim. He was also an angry child who didn't handle his parents divorce and never liked Nancy. I'm sure the death of his father made him even angrier and it's more than possible he blamed Nancy for his death. But that's just my guess. Come on Season 8!
i agree with the lanny theory of andy being the father of maxine's baby. not many people are mentioning that in this discussion but i think that definitely will setup something different for andy next season.
as for the killer, i agree with the esteban theories. tim scottson seems like such a long shot but maybe i'm wrong.
That seems plausible. But like Claire said, Tim seems to be such a long shot. Esteban just makes more sense. And he it makes sense he would have waited so long. I mean yes, she was out in the open, but she also had a lot of people around her and in her interest. Like the half way house, then the scc, not to mention various criminals she is in cahoots with. He would have watched her over a long period of time, waiting to make his move. He also couldn't have done anything too soon, because then he would have a harder chance at getting his son back. He would want to wait until Stevie was with Nancy. So he waited for everything to calm down,and he had easy access to Stevie. But I could be wrong. . . you never know. Tim did have a lot of displaced angry even before his father was killed. But I dunno. Let's go Season 8!
Also, I definitely think Andy is the "baby daddy". That just seems obvious to me. Why would they even have showed him.
i paused it, and it looks like its Pete Scottsons son, or the dectectives kid. also whats up with jill instantly knowing where the red light came from? maybe it was her husband and the kids job to mark the target? idk but if thats the series finally, im shocked and upset. i thought theyd all go to jail or something
Okay, so after reading everyones comments Im pretty sure Nancy wasnt shot. Shane wasnt at the table yet i dont think. So, he could have seen the gunman and shot him himself to protect Nancy. There was a silencer on the hitmans gun, so it wouldnt have made a noise. But in the case of Shane shooting the hitman, it would have. Shane would have gotten the gun from the police academy.
As for the theory of WHO the gunman is, I dont think that it could be peter scottsons son. He wouldn't have a recources to find Nancy, who is a hard person to find. I have my heart set that Esteban faked his death. Since he faked his death he couldnt take Stevie and kill Nancy if he was ever in the city, too many witnesses. So he knew she was a gypsy at heart and would move around eventually, probably somewhere under the radar. Then he got his chance in conneticut.
It might have been guillermo, he could have grown his hair out. He might have had goons watching Nancy and so when he got out of jail, he could kill her himself. Weve never seen him with hair. I know he wouldnt just hire someone to do the job, because of all the times she has fucked him over. The airport ordeal was the last straw and its time for his revenge.
Idk, im just dying for season 8!!
jenji kohan talking about the season's finale and hinting at who might have shot Nancy:
This is why Nancy was shot, or wasn't show? Was she shot? Find out why http://bit.ly/qvjBlK
If you go to showtime.tv (their website) and watch the video of Kohan herself, she specifically says "The person behind the gun is someone that nancy upset in one of the earlier seasons. It is there for the vieweres to decipher by watching the earlier shows". So I'm expecting U-turn like debacle where she was using some of her very early connections against herself. I'm not sure though, but I have a good feeling there will be at least another season. It's not like Kohan to leave cliffhangers that don't expose themselves later on, considering all the previous events in the show.
I;ve been a true WEEDS fan since Day 1 Season 1! The show has had it's ups and downs throughout the past 7 seasons, but overall it is one of the best shows around today.
Nancy has done good and bad things to people, but the question we all want to know is who shot her?
So many possible theories I really hope they dont end it without us knowing.
My guess was Dimitri's Sister due to the fact Nancy played her, fucked her brother, He brother ended up in jail, she went to CONN where Nancy was shot, but the shooter looks Male… so if it wasnt her, maybe she killed the GUNS MAN
Guillermo… Didnt look like him but I dont rule him out!
Roy Till… is Dead
Esteban… He "Died" So I think he's done…
Tim Scottson I mean Yeah he could of but, Doubtful… BUT! The Shooter Resembles him the most
Heres a List of the Characters from Weeds Past and Present.
Try to figure it out
@Jerm(#75) Seriously?? If you truly believe that Weeds is better than Breaking Bad go ahead and cancel your cable subscription.
I for one am going to consider this the series finale. I tried for the last 2 seasons to give Weeds the benefit of the doubt and it just has failed. The writing has become awful and the plot lines unrealistic. When the show first started it was believable, now it's as bad as a soap opera on ABC.
It was Esteban. I never did believe he was really dead.
Heres my Conclusion: Josh Wilson
He looks like the shooter
it could be estaban might not be dead no proof could have been faked
Josh Wilson could be the sniper. My guess would be he was going to shoot Doug.
the cop guy who shane and nancy migled with.
IT WAS MAX!! go watch it one more time and tell me that's not max, it makes perfect sense, his dad was the DEA agent that was killed pretty much because he got involved with Nancy – therfore max blames nancy.
@Jerm #75 "weeds is so much better than breaking bad"
If you really think that, then YEAH you should have your cable taken away. Breaking Bad is one of the best shows on TV. Weeds is something entertaining and funny to pass the time with, but the acting, plot, production, etc. are GARBAGE compared to Breaking Bad.
The only reason I don't think it was her lesbian lover from prison is her M.O. was arson, not really a shooter from a grassy knoll kinda girl.
My money is on Tim Scottson.
Striking Resemblance
Kinda crazy
Nancy killed his dad
Maybe he figured out that she was a dealer.
Season 8 could be he fired a pot shot at her to mess with her, maybe he'll turn into some weird stalker nutbag.
I think it was U-TURN!!! Just kidding, he is basically only character NOT mentioned. I thought episode was great…….I will cancel Showtime if WEEDS not renewed. I have been fan since Season 1 show 1 and got Showtime because of this series. It's too good to die!!
Shane shot the shooter…that was the bang! That guy saves him mom yet again!
we need a season 8!! I dreamt about the possibilities of what happened all night last night
You guys are ALL idiots.
1. Shane was at the table, so stop saying he walked up in time to shoot the gunman
2. Yea there is a SUPPRESSOR (not SILENCER) on the gun but stop playing call of duty! Suppressors don't make the gun silent, high caliber rifles are still VERY loud even with suppressors on them, so the gunshot could've made that shot (Maybe the writers are just not good dB experts)
3. Jenji said it was a past seasons character so its NOT Nancys lesbian lover or demitri or Oullettes kid.
4. It is CLEARLY Tim Scottsman, same exact eyebrows and ear to the T! (Compare the Screenshot to his Picture)
My money is still on Josh Wilson. He looks just like the sniper. In episode 101 Celia says to Nancy he should be sent to military school and she wanted to call the police on him. Then Nancy blackmails him to stop him from selling to kids. Josh says to Nancy "you don't know what my father is really like"when she threatens to tell on him. The target was Doug.
Look at this photo of Josh on the playground. He looks exactly like the sniper.
One more thing I JUST noticed: Right when it goes to the gunman's view, Shane looks RIGHT at the Shooter!!! WEIRD!
Yea but the mole next to his nose isnt there on the shooter. Hes OUT
One more thing. The rifle had what could be either a flash suppressor or a silencer. Real snipers know a flash suppressor is used in low light situations to not draw attention to his location to onlookers. Silencers are used to NOT draw attention to anyone within earshot. A flash suppressor serves no purpose in broad daylight hidden in the brush.
The mole is not see because it is deliberately out of focus.
Theres no such thing as a silencer. When I say suppressor, im ta lking about a sound suppressor. And a high powered rifle like that is still VERY loud even with a suppressor.
Theres no such thing as a silencer. When I say suppressor, im talking about a sound suppressor. And a high powered rifle like that is still VERY loud even with a suppressor.
Oh cmon, u would still see a blotch, even if barely. You would still see something!
Not always very loud.
Subsonic technology is virtually silent. The impact hitting the target is louder than the shot fired.
Its completely obvious that it's Peter's son…
I think it was either Tim Scottson trying to kill Nancy, or Jills husband tyring to kill Jill…the screen did go blank before we heard the shot, he could have aimed at her.
Another thing my brother pointed out to me this morning is that the sniper gun has a silencer, and yet we heard a shot. It is possible someone shot the sniper.
I could have been anyone at that table. notice how no one said anything when the girl was pointing that laser at nancy? could have been silus, andy, anyone. because they all know they can support themselves and nancy brings a whole lot of touble
PaulNY: Those sub sonic rounds, yes they are silent BUT they arent used by snipers to KILL people. Theyve actually been used as "less-then-lethal" crowd control rounds. Trust me, I've been shooting and collecting guns for years. Do you understand what subsonic rounds are? They are designed to have A LOT less FPS and to not break the sound barrier. The distance form the gunman and nancy would be too far to do any lethal damage,and would most LIKELY miss her. Regular ammo loads are NEVER that silent. NOT EVEN CLOSE!
P.S. People please, enough with this, "oh it had a silencer on it, so why did the shot make a sound" crap. Get off call of duty and shoot a REAL gun with a SOUND SUPPRESSOR (Not Silencer, no such thing exists) on it and then talk.
oh and PaulNY: If you notice another thing, the camera was also screwing up the sound because of the camera's dB cutoff. You can tell on the first Sitting Shot when his daughter speaks, it cuts right out when he shoots.
It was Tim scottson. Look at the 2 picture links I am posting. Look at his right ear. It's the same.
I may be WAY off base here, but I was thinking that the guy (sniper guy) looked like Nancy's first husband Judah. Now I know he is suppose to be dead and all, but people on these shows never really die unless they are beheaded on camera. Far fetched I know, but wouldn't that be a totally cool twist!!
First off looking on Showtime…. It was a season finale meaning there maybe a season 8. And two it looked like Jill's husband…. but if there is a season 8 it means that she did not get shot in the head…. as she was bending down to sit, they shot the gun meaning it probably grazed her or missed her!
First of all, Nancy's lesbian lover wanted to move to VERMONT, not Connecticut . Secondly, Estaban was in season 6 and I think he is way too obvious. I think that it might have been Jill's husband considering that he wasn't at the table and in this season he said he only reason he was with Jill was so he could see his daughters and she didn't let him see them when they weren't together. So if she was dead, then he would have custody of them. The Scottson son is definitely a good possibility, I just don't understand how he would have found Nancy. Maybe for season 8 they would have the family a few years from now without Nancy (probably better off) and give a few back ground stories and possibly she's in a coma? Then she wakes up? There is endless amounts of possiblites, she wasn't very well liked. She might have bent down at just the right time….THERE BETTER BE A SEASON EIGHT!
I also believe that Andy is the father too the baby! That'd be a nice twist.
I don't think it was Esteban, maybe one of his goons, but he's not the type to hide in a bush with a gun. He's a suit, not a sniper.Didn't look like Guilermo (sp) at all, not even his goons really. Can see Peter's son or even Jill's husband. Lots of choices…
I didn't take the time to read all 124 posts so this may have already been said but could it be possible that Doug was shot because he wasn't the one who got blamed for the hedge fund and that the guy who did get blamed wanted revenge? Just some food for your thoughts.. haha
Looks kinda like her lawyer. cant figgure out his motive
it's either tim scottson or jill's husband. if it is tim, where did jill's husband go?! he wasn't at the table with everyone.
yea Nicholas your answer would be good EXCEPT Jenji said that it is someone from a PREVIOUS season. homeboy from pouncy house is NOT. Try again!!!
I think its Esteban's driver. the pudgy one with the curly black hair.
Peter Scottson, who said he actually died? it looks like him alot
Esteban? Not his style. He'd hire it done, and much sooner and not as tidy as a sniper. Roy Till? Definitely!! Except he is dead. Dmitri or his boys? Nah. Dmitri is crazy, but I don't think he was that invested in Nancy. And his boys even less. Soya? Nah. She's crazy and violent and confrontational. She doesn't have the discipline for snipering. I would have bet on one of Esteban's people, as revenge for him or Pilar, but I don't think that's it. Josh Wilson, yeah, sent to military school, and kinda nuts, but I didn't think he was that insane. The corp exec who worked with Doug? No, the shooter was younger. Plus, it looks like Doug shoved him under the bus, so he's probably in jail or hiding in the Caribbean. Tim Scottson is the best guess. He was a nutty kid, and didn't like the Botwins. I didn't think he was enraged enough to nurse a grudge for all these years, but he sounds like the best guess.
Also…I think some are confused about the setup in Conn. Jill wanted out of her marriage, wanted some of the excitement of Nancy's life, and honestly did still want to be Stevie's mom. Nancy also accepted that she isn't so great as a single mom and she knows she messed up Silas and Shane. She's too much of a danger junkie to raise a kid properly. Andy had just heard about Maxine's new blended poly family, so he came up with the idea of blending their family. Jill left her husband, moved her kids and Stevie in with Nancy and Andy. All to CT to be in the suburbs again. Silas's grow house was a gift, but I bet Nancy hopes he will also be their supplier. Doug screwed the company and bailed with all the cash they had scraped together and let his buddy take the fall. That's how he was able to fund the Botwin-Price-Gray villa. I like a previous poster's idea that Ouillette and Shane made a deal for Shane to be a mole inside the drug world. Shane went to the police academy as a sacrifice, to repay his mother for doing jailtime for him. He likes the power of being a cop, sure, but it is still a sacrifice. He wanted to be a criminal, a badass doing business with Nancy. Instead he'll be narcing to Ouillette, plus Ouillette has long-term blackmailing power over him now (because he knows about Nancy). I assume the deal is that Ouillette will leave Nancy and family alone as long as Shane does his part. But I don't see that going smoothly or lasting long. Doug, Andy, Shane and Silas were all silent when the red dot hit Nancy's forehead because they were stunned that one of Nancy's numerous enemies could actually find them in Conn, and they were paralyzed thinking that she finally wasn't going to escape. The shot was someone else shooting the sniper, perhaps Ouillette.
Well,I for one have been downloading as the U.K only recently picked up Season 5 on Sky Atlantio. Please for the love of God gives us a season 8. I don't know who shot her but everyone knows that a gunshot sound never means a lead character has been killed if you don't see it happen. That is just put in place to piss us all off.
Honestly, of all the popular suspects that are alive, none seem to be capable. This was a clearly professional sniper, look how his movements stop perfectly in the forehead. Maybe she meant someone from a past season is who shot the sniper. Also, the shot seemed quiet for a sniper rifle… but maybe that's the effect of video games.
To the one who mentioned it being Peter, Peter's body was found and shown on the show. Peter and U-Turn are the only confirmed dead ones. As for Peter's son Tim, I can see that kinda. But Tim wouldnt know about Nancy's involvement in Peter's death, he was believed to have been killed by the armenian drug dealers he busted. Nancy was never really blamed in his death. Tim was angry about hid dad dating Nancy and his parent's divorce but I don't see that as enough to hint her down and kill her years later. How would he have found her anyways,she's been off the grid for sometime. I mean I doubt Tim could just google her name and find her address. The more I think about it, Tim seems less possible. Still could be him though…
Another thought, how bout Agent Fundis, Peter's old partner that suspect Nancy was involved in his death and in turn Nancy implicated as being involved in corruption causing him to loose his job. He would definitely be up for killing her.
Okay, am I the only one who remembers the gay DEA agent whose partner was tortured and killed because of Nancy Botwin? Who promised retrobution at all costs?
Roy Till called to say he was dead. He was killed by Ceasar (Esteban's right hand man who is now retired). Nancy gave them Roy Till to kill.
Alright I'm going to argue here for a few of these. Please don't tear my head off, I just know this show so well that I'm pretty sure of who it is.
1. Jill Grey can't be the shooter because she's sitting there with her children. She may not like Nancy but I seriously doubt she'd do something like that in front of her children.
2. Esteban's daughter is just too silly. Sure Nancy may have sent her off to rehab but the girl was a mess. I personally don't think she hated Nancy, I think she was just too messed up and she hoped Nancy didn't notice. She is the stupidest suspect I've heard.
3. Celia Hodes, okay she did pop into my head for a second but then she instantly left. Celia may be vicious and a bitch but quite frankly, she doesn't have the balls to do this. She wasn't a good Nancy and freaked when she thought she was being followed by the black cop (Dean). She couldn't and wouldn't do it.
4. Isabel Hodes is another silly choice. She loved Nancy, envied her as a woman and mother. She had no issues with her. Isabel went over to Nancy's house to escape her Mom, why would she want to hurt someone who helped her out so much? Silly choice.
5. Cesar first and foremost isn't dead. He was shot in the shoulder and as Esteban said in season 6 in the last episode, he retired and now owns a boat. He was always the nice guy, he may not have liked Nancy but I seriously doubt he'd risk his family and life that he has now to take her out.
6. Guillermo is another obvious choice. I'd never put it back the guy but he is probably the new Esteban of the Mexican cartel. I seriously doubt he'd waste his time going after someone who isn't even his areas anymore. If he did however, I'd love to see him back. My favorite "gang member" Weeds has ever had.
7. Emma from Pouncy House? Okay first of all, she an annoying character and yes she does have resources but I think Nancy proved she has more. Also, her character was played out through season 7. I was glad she was gone!
8. Zoya is someone I'd could definitely see doing it. After all Nancy tricked her to leave but it's another obvious choice. Sure she loved Nancy and had this great future planned for them but Nancy made it clear that wasn't going to happen. I think even Zoya would get that, plus Jenji said it was someone from the past (which I'm taking as farther back than season 7).
9. Dean Hodes isn't that kind of guy. He's always been the good guy that the writers like to beat up or pick on. I doubt that after everything they've had him go through they'd suddenly make him a shooter and want to take out Nancy. Sure Nancy is the one that got him hurt, but he never hated Nancy for anything she did.
10. Dimitri I feel is another obvious pick. He never thought of Nancy as more of someone he got drugs for and slept with from time to time. I wouldn't say for sure that it couldn't be him but, I do however believe he is in jail and he'll be there a while.
11. Jill's husband is someone else would I feel like would be a stupid choice. He was the one who allowed Nancy to see Stevie. Sure if Jill is living with her now, he'd be pissed. I'm assuming here that Jill left him to move in with Nancy. However, he'd be a stupid choice because I don't think Nancy has EVER done anything directly to him.
I'll be posting my top suspects after this one!
Alright these are my top suspects! I have a few more to add but for now, these are it!
1. Biker Gang from season 3! If you don't remember these are the people that Guillermo set on fire and along with that Ajrestic. They did beat up Silas for Nancy not willing to sell there stuff anymore. They also said they'd get revenge for what she did. I personally think that out of everyone in that Gang, it's the brother of the girl that Andy wanted to date. He was the one in charge and they did have some serious weapons when Andy and Nancy visited. These is my TOP suspect.
2. Peter Scotson's son: He is a good choice. He was probably just as messed up as Shane is after everything that happened. He was also angry at Nancy and he probably knows now that Nancy screwed his Mom over for the money.
3. Heylia James: Well we know she hasn't liked Nancy since she teamed up with Conrad in season 2, as for if she did, I'm on the fence. I feel like she would definitely be the OBVIOUS choice but then that's what throws me. Weeds never gives you the obvious choice, it's someone smaller than Heylia. Plus she needs Nancy to keep buying from her. How else with Silas get the seeds he needs to grow MILF?
4. Lupita: She is definitely someone to watch out for. She has a way of turning up for Nancy when she needs her and Nancy did just get Stevie back. She is a suspect I'd never throw out. However, I believe the person behind the gun was a man.
@paulNY ur wrong the shooter has brown eyes. It's either Esteban or Tim scottson.
It does look alot like Tim and Jenji did say if you do some investigation you'll be able to figure it out.. But I Do think I should point out that if Nancy was going to live in this big house and join up with her sister and have stevie there I feel sure that she has security around the house she would be stupid not too.. I also feel like Tim would be impulsive enough not to think of that he never seemed too smart.. But I definately feel like her giving Silas the super hydro growing thing lets us know she isn't out of the game.. I don't think she got shot I can't see that happening in front of stevie..But I do feel like Tim wasnt killed by the guard that I imagine did the shooting I think introducing him in that way can only mean he and his mom maybe back to do some black mailing…
@Tanya, I don't really see Lupita coming after Nancy. From what i remember Lupita liked Nancy and Nancy never wronged her. I feel like the biker gang is to far of a stretch. That was a bit part of the show, weren't significant characters and in Weeds time happened 4-5 years ago. I doubt they'd still be thinking of her. Plus the were made to look like pretty stupid and lazy. I don't think it Heylia (sp)as she's not that much into revenge, she just wanted to get away from Nancy, unless something happened between them during the two month jump at the end that we don't know about. Peter's son I think is the most likely of your suspects, but I don't know if Tim knows Nancy was even involved in his father's death.
I am thinking that since the sniper looked professional it could be a past enemy from military or police, such as Agent Fundis Peter's old partner who suspected Nancy in Peter's death.
I totally agree with your line of non-suspects!
Esteban Reyes Daughter, had Stevie hit so not to share the inheratence.
i think estaban is still alive
it has something to do about shane it looks like he's hiding that he's in the acadamy that is tries to catch drug dealers
wait change my mind it's andy's dad he has curly hair even though there is no reason
Doesn't matter. Purposely ambiguous. It was just a way to end the series.
I personally dont think Nancy was shot, Infact, the only person who I think was shot…was the sniper himself(most likely the scottson kid). Someone else was there looking over either Shane or Nancy.
That is my conclusion if there is going to be a season 8.
Now, I havent come to the conclusion who shot the sniper. Only person I can think of is Oullette or whatever his name was, probably spying on shane…after all he doesnt trust him very much, even though he joined the academy for him. Whatever.
If there is no season 8…They better give us some legit facts here.
I do not think it was helyia. I still feel like no matter how much it looks like she despised Nancy, she has some weird soft spot for her for whatever reason.
Maybe Scottson ended up working for the DEA and Scottson's DEA friend told Tim what he thought was true about Nancy getting his father killed.
I dont think Jill or Andy had anything to do with this.
Someone could have also been targetting shane as well.
Or there is the theory that the sniper had no intent to kill, but just to watch and seek out and someone else there saw that and shot the sniper thinking he was going to do harm because if you look closely..the sniper's gun had a silencer, so you wouldnt be able to hear a gunshot.
ok first off guillermos last name is not garcia-diaz its garcia-gomez. but anyway my theory about the shoter is this its tim scottson ole dea guys son. but that gun the shooter was using had a silncer on it so it woulndt make sound when shot so my other theory is that nancy didnt get shot that the shooter did either by shane or someone else who saw him. because it obvious the gun had a silencer. so the shot you hear at the end is the shooter being shot not nancy. but also jenji kohan said it was someone from a past season so that rules out demitri, zoya, pouncy house ppl, anyone at vehement, or at that halfway house. also supposedly esteban is dead so that rules him out unless he's really alive, i dont think it was guillermo cuz who says he still cares about nancy anyway? i dont think it was heylia cuz she would have shot her her damn srlf and the shooter was obviously a man. i dont think it was celia cuz shes a pussy and wouldnt have the balls. could have been the dea guy that burped alot fundis, i also dont think it was ceasar i just dont. so tim scottson fits. but i dont think nancy is dead i think the shooter is. better be a season 8 so i can find out
Nancy is not dead…
we heard the sho but we saw asilencer ! someone killed the guy who wanted to kill Nancy…
OK, it was the detective and the shot was actually at the gunman who had a silencer on his gun. The gunman who attempted to shoot nancy was most likely that douche from pouncy house or some twisted blast from the past like g g gomez or maybe the mexican politician didn't actually die, or maybe it was a family member of the girl that shane whacked. Still, could have been a tranquilizer shot by the cops as shane has set up some elaborate bust to give the detective what he wants, shane is soo psycho and protective of his mother, he probably gave the detective silas. But to put the whole season back together, it might have been that russian sister
hey u guys im a weeds fanatic alright literally blew threw the first season in a day on netflix. The 3 possabilities on there r peter scotsons son, celia hodes(unlikely), and guillermo. peter scotsons son is my guess but knowing weeds the most unexpected thing will happen. none of us will be able to guess right. lupita is a great character that always brings me joy, if there is a 8 season i certain she will be back. over all i will be pist if its the series fanale but after all her adventures of brushes with death and lovers her death is a good resolution. theres too many characters all the people in the trailer park, old boss in agrestic, bikers in agrestic, all of mexican goons that r still alive, uturns goons and many more to no who shot her
josh wilson is also a possability
Ok I already posted at #64 but please check this out, what does it mean.
Picture is of Tim Scottson (Daryl Sabara) holding a gun with a scope taken 2 days ago.
Is he trying to change his image after being the gunman in weeds?
Now get ready to get your mind blown when you see this picture of him taken a few days ago, after you click and hit next a few times to see more recents
(Tim) http://www.imdb.com/media/rm327073024/nm0754512
(Gunman) http://i.imgur.com/m8LbZ.jpg
It's him no more guessing…
In seasons 2-3 Valerie Scottson says how much Tim hates Nancy, for getting in the way of her and Peter. Tim always was VERY mad at Nancy, and Nancy later admits to Andy how she killed Peter, and Andy goes on to mention the whole family already had theories how.
Tim knew too, and went after Nancy for killing his father!
Simple… Lupita shot the sniper. Bring on season 8+!
If you watch the actor's direction at the table while Nancy is talking, everyone is watching her or making eye contact EXCEPT SHANE. Shane knows and doesn't want to watch his mom's head splatter.
looked like Peter Scottson's Son
In an interview Jenji Kohan says it's a character from past seasons. My bet is on Tim Scottson, or Agent Fundis. Scottson has many reasons to hate Nancy, is prone to violence, lost his father, and his town burned down, all things he can more or less blame Nancy for. He'd surely have heard about her jail time and involvement with the Mexican, and must be able to piece together that he's crooked. Same goes for Fundis, who lost his job because of her.
It was Tim Scottson. Honestly people save the pic and blow up the right ear. Ears are like fingerprints. No two are the same and look at that EAR. It's unmistakable from the long low broad lobe to the wing out at the top back. It is the same ear. The hair is the same and the eye color in the view finder is a match.
It is Tim Scottson.
He definitely has a huge motive and on top of that we follow Shane home with flashes to the academy. How would the killer know where the Botwins live? Simple. Tim is also in the academy (duh his dad was DEA), notices Shane and follows him home.
I agree that the shooter was probably shot by Shane's now police protector who really wants this kid to make it no matter what.
I hope they bring it back and finish it right. I'm getting a litter tired of these series coming to end abruptly because of studio conflicts etc. I'd rather have a 5 season series that has an ending that has meaning than 7 that has an ending that seemed rushed.
YOU HEARIN ME SHOWTIME? Take a lesson from Six Feet Under.
Tim Scottson was the shooter. Of all the people in the past the shooter looked like him the most.
He can also blame Nancy for his fathers death. Yes he did not know about her involvement before but when Nancy was arrested for dealing drugs and murder it would raise suspicion that his father died shortly after meeting and becoming involved with her.
Tim's Mother also blames Nancy for Stealing their money got from Tim's fathers death. If Tim's mother was angry and negative towards Nancy than Tim's anger would have grown the entire time we have not seen him on the show.
Everyone is saying that he does not have the ability to search and find Nancy but since Nancy was recently out of prison she most likely was on probation and could easily be found. Also Tim could have contacted his fathers partner for help seeing he would have contacts in a government agency that would easily be able to find Nancy. I also would not count out Tim's mother as being an accomplice.
in an interview, Jenji Kohan said they knew who shot her and that Nancy wasn't necessarily shot, just that someone is after her. She also said that it was someone from previous seasons, I can't remember exactly but she did say from a long time ago – I'm thinking someone from Agrestic (Regrestic now). My money is on either Peter Scottson's son or even his ex-wife. Perhaps even the bikey gang that Conrad torched and then resulted in Agrestic burning down?
Ok, there are a lot of interesting theories on here…and I am most likely in agreement with the possibility of Tim Scottson being the shooter based upon appearance. All in all, either way it went down, I feel that there will be a season 8. The show Weeds is exceptionally entertaining and has really caught on in mainstream television. But, if the show ends the way it did it would have people wondering too many questions, which could put a slight dislike toward the work of Jenji Kohan…and I do not think that is what she would want. Also, this is exactly what the producers and writers want everyone to think; Who is the shooter? Is Nancy dead? And will there be a season 8? These are cliffhangers that sit in your gut giving you butterflies. Further more, the people of Hollywood aren't dumb, they want to make money, and almost always know whether they will make another season and when they will end it. You can't write a story without a specific finale, and this one just doesn't add up to be a finale!
Three names:
Guillermo. Garcia. Gomez.
I'm going to guess that Dmitri's sister is spying through the gun at Nancy, but the gun shot is actually Dmitri shooting his sister. Or it could be the other way around; Dmitri gets shot by his sis while spying on Nancy..
as Jenji said the killer was from season's past, i would avoid assuming it's anyone from season 7. I think that it is someone associated with U-Turn because, after it was missing from Nancy in season 6 which is a bit of a muck up, they showed the U-Turn tattoo in the season 7 finale maybe just to remind viewers of U-Turn to set up his new involvement (I know he's dead but I mean someone associated with him, family or gangster friends etc.)
D.E.A agents son!
#Weeds Season 8 Focusing on who shot the Shooter or who the Shooter shot?? http://bit.ly/qzfCio from there you'll also see my other write up about who the "shooter" could be. This new article elaborates on who possibly may have shot the shooter.
i beleive nancy was bending out of the way of the scope just before it went dark as well so it could be a total miss,, im convinced that shane joining the police academy is what he gave the cop,, and being nervous and lying at the table is because he dosent know how to tell the family, he's going to be a cop, i highly doubt he is in any way involved with the sniper,,,,i dont see it being any of dimitri's guys or anything to do with him,, although if a shot from another gun was what we heard, taking out the sniper, those 3 goons may be involved, maybe nancy hired them as guards(lol who knows the series is scattered somtimes) but id definatley love it if it was celia,, i miss that crazy b,tch
i also definatley agree with the comment that weeds is not in the same league as breaking bad. ..bb is close to overtaking the sopranos as best show ever for me,, but lets not foget none of these shows would be on if it wasnt for tony and carm and the gang at the bada bing
I hope it's Guillermo. I would love to see him again. He hates Nancy intensely and still hasn't gotten revenge on her for ratting on him so he's a likely candidate.
Also the writers of Weeds have a tenacious way of not doing what the audience expects. The most obvious thing would be to make the shooter be Peter's son (because it looks like him and he absolutely hates her) and make the gunshot be another person shooting him. They also said that they don't just suddenly resolve a cliffhanger like that so that's not going to happen.
I think it was Guillermo
Just thought I'd let everyone know that it is confirmed that it is a character from seasons passed, said by creator herself
Peter Scottson also had a partner that was investigating his death. He followed nancy for a while and the kinda disappeared. I think its either him or Peters son.
1. Jenji said that we would have to dig deep into the past which would eliminate all characters from seasons 6 and 7(Dimitri, Zoya, Emily, Mr.Chiff, etc..)
2.Anyone who thinks Nancy was actually killed needs to reevaluate. The gun had a silencer on it so the shot wouldn't be a loud bang. Therefore, someone must have shot the sniper. Also, how can you have another season of weeds without Nancy???
Who is the sniper?
Before I start, we have to eliminate all girl possibilities…. the sniper had short hair. Although, I would like to see Celia come back.
- Esteban is a very likely suspect…. The sniper even somewhat looks like Esteban.. The DEA agent told us that Esteban was stabbed in prison, but really? That would be a crappy way for Esteban to die… he was too big of a character for him to just be stabbed. You would think that the death of a Mexican mayor would make the news or something. To me, Esteban is living and has so many reasons to hate Nancy, but mostly he just wants his son. While in jail he could have ordered a hitman to go kill Nancy or get his son. Obviously a hitman didn't ever find Nancy because it took the sniper forever to find her. If it was anyone from the Mexican gang, it would have to be Esteban because Nancy was sent into a halfway house before Esteban was released from jail. Esteban would have had to find Nancy quickly (since he was released from jail after Nancy was put into the house), something Esteban is good at(tracking people down)…
- Guillermo is also a possibility because he also hates Nancy. Because of Esteban, Nancy gained protection enabling her to do what she wanted with hter maternity store. She became "off the hook". Guillermo wanted to kill her, but couldn't because of Esteban.
He is the only other possible Mexican suspect.
- Agent Till would be a very good possibility because he said he would kill anyone associated with the death of his boyfriend. But, I'm pretty sure we were told he was dead..
- Tim Scottson, Peter's son. He always hated Nancy from the beginning. He also never got his revenge on her for the death of his father. He grew up to have a terrible relationship with his mom, which brought him even more anger. I found pictures that matched his ear with the snipers ear exactly making him a likely suspect.
-A friend of U-Turn…. They could have blamed Nancy for his death therefore seeking revenge.
-Jills Husband, he is not wiht them at the dinner table. Although, I doubt it because he did help Nancy by letting her see Stevie…
Now, who shot the sniper?
-Detective Oullette…. I think he followed Shane to the house and Connecticut and while exploring, he came across the sniper…. Shane said that he had something the detective wanted… someone dedicated for the police force, and a son. When Shane graduated, I think detective oullette followed him to just say congrats or something. When Shane put his cap in the bag, I dont think he was hiding it. How would the family not know, he would have been away the whole time and Nancy knew that he was hanging around the police station throughout all of season 7.
To me, the two possible suspects would be Esteban or Tim. Which ever one it was, I believe they got shot by detective Oullette. Either way, there would be a great story line.
What about the biker-pot growing gang? Didn't one of them have curly hair? Nancy did have their pot growing compound burned to the grown. motif?
There is a possibility it was suchio.maybe it was Celia or one of the old guys. Personally I'm inclined to think it was Tim scottson.
I think its Tim Scottson. He has a huge motive, looks like the sniper, and as someone mentioned could know where they lived as shane goes to the academy and he may have also. I also think theres more to the story. Someone shot him because his gun had a silencer on it. I think Shane shot him as he would have a gun from police work. He also pays attention to details and could of noticed him in the bushes. There is a slight possibility that he met up with someone else who hates Nancy and worked with that person to kill her. I think there is also a small possibility that he was aiming at Shane or Silas to make Nancy suffer before he killed her. I hope that they renew weeds for season 8 so we get some answers.
I think its Tim Scottson. He has a huge motive, looks like the sniper, and as someone mentioned could know where they lived as shane goes to the academy and he may have also. I also think theres more to the story. Someone shot him because his gun had a silencer on it. I think Shane shot him as he would have a gun from police work. He also pays attention to details and could of noticed him in the bushes. There is a slight possibility that he met up with someone else who hates Nancy and worked with that person to kill her. I think there is also a small possibility that he was aiming at Shane or Silas to make Nancy suffer before he killed her.
I think it was Peter Scottson. Paid off the Arminians to not kill him, staged his death coz he was corrupt, found Nacy. My theory at least.
I think it is Nanceys sisters husband.. And Nanceys sister is the one that gets shot..so that he can have his daughters back..
Your dumb she moved to vermont
My guess is that whoever the gay cop who said 'I will kill you if I ever find out you had anything to do with the death of my partner' found out that she had something to do with the death of his partner.
Its the DEAs son from season 2 … 100%
Must have JR Ewing
I think it's laars Silas real dad or Tim scottson
Tim of course you can see his red curly hair. He put two and two together his dad is killed unexpectedly and his mom finds out nancys a dealer. Hes probably like shane joined some type of law enforcement where he learned sniper skills taking after his father
She wanted to move to vermont
The gun is silenced so the shot wasn't from the gun we see pointed at her head, Shane has a gun more than likely because he's a cop now, and the only other suspect with the hair style that we have seen is Tim scottson the son of one of Nancy's many dead husbands.
i thought the same exact thing and that they might be bringing juda back but i also like the thought that it might be scottsons son and shane fired the pistol because he spotted him but then again the man behind the sniper looked like a middle aged man and scottsons son is around the age of shane but as u see he is still small. guarmo the mexican who worked with reyes is still a possiblity evan tho his hair is not long
actually they dont know he is a cop because when he got there he said that he got held up in history
A LOT of people are saying it was Peter Scottsens son. But I think Jill's husband makes more sense. If you watch one of the first episodes in Season 7, when Nancy is video chatting with Jill, you see Jill's husband appear for a moment and make this scary face into the webcam, its just a loook like he is deranged… So its either the Scottsen boy or Jills husband. I think somebody shot the shooter before he actually shot Nancy. The gun used by the shooter has a silencer on it, and the gunshot thats heard when the screen goes black sounds like it is clearly from a gun without a silencer…
It is the Scottman son. If you look at the ears, hair and eyebrow that you can see and look at pics of him from imdb, it is for sure him.
It was the Scottman kid, if you look at the ear , nose, hair and eyebrow you can see and compare it to pics of him from imdb it is for sure him. Plus, if you look at the the years he appears on weeds on imdb it says he was in the show in 2012 but I don't remember seeing him except for the gun scene
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Mr Life is 60 and a bit
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- Thimbleanna said...
Happy Belated birthday Mr. Life! Look at all those yummy cakes. And I forgot to mention, having lived in Germany 25 years ago, that we have those same butchered German conversations in our house too!
- 3:13 am
- Stomper Girl said...
He looks very happy to be so celebrated. Happy birthday to him.
- 4:09 am
- meghs said...
Happy birthday to Mr. Life.
Thank you for the photos - what a delightful looking bunch your family are!
- 6:12 am
- Linds said...
What wonderful happy photos! It seems as though Mr Life is still enjoying the festivities!
Do not speak to me about blogger. It has decided it has a mind of its own.
- 7:03 am
- fifi said...
Oh, just BLESS you ALL.
sweet sweet sweet
- 7:22 am
- old_black said...
The second cake on the official birthday with the extended family. What a lovely photograph of Mr Life with the second cake! I don't know if the camera lies, but he looks so relaxed; a very warm and gentle looking person. Your family must be a great joy to you.
- 11:39 am
- Loth said...
2 cakes. Got to be happy with that!
- 1:44 pm
- Anne said...
Lovely to see your family photos. Looks like a great time was had.
- 10:37 pm
- Molly said...
He must have heard that "Sixty is the new Forty!" He wears his years very gracefully....Here's wishing him many more!
- 4:03 am
- Tracey Petersen said...
looks like good fun for one and all!
- 12:39 pm
- meggie said...
Happy Birthday to Mr Life!
Looks like you all had fun. I don't see any pics of Mrs Life??
- 12:19 am
- Don Mills Diva said...
Looks like you had a great time - Happy birthday to Mr. Life!
- 2:56 am
- Tanya Brown said...
Happy belated birthday, Mr. Life! (Just what he wants to here from a total stranger.)
Marvelous photos. I loved seeing your family and the slice of life.
- 4:24 am
- Tanya Brown said...
Hear. I meant hear, not here.
- 4:24 am
- leslie said...
Didn't you know that 60 is the new 40? Well,,,even if it isn't it's better than the alternative, right? I celebrated mine recently, too, and figured you can't fight it so you might as celebrate big. And I did!
So Happy Birthday Mr. Life! May there be many many more.
- 4:45 am
- WifeMomChocoholic said...
Happy Birthday and many, many more! That cakes looks quite delish.
- 5:37 pm
- Kerri said...
A very happy belated birthday to your Ross! Aren't we lucky to both have one? :) Yours looks very sweet in these lovely photos, and so does the rest of your family.
I'm here to take you up on your offer of switching lives...I have sciatica at the moment after hurting my back digging something up last Saturday...so I'll gladly change places with you. Still want to? I think marking exams might be kind of fun right now. Does that give you an indication of how much fun sciatica is?
We're getting some very welcome rain this morning and it sounds wonderful on the roof...so there is that benefit :) Plus, we've had a Baltimore Oriole singing his beautiful song to us in the 2 large Maple trees all week long, so there's no need to turn the radio on for music.
P.S. I'm used to elderly men, so that wouldn't be a problem ;) I think my Ross would enjoy your accent and sense of humour :)
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By Bryan Glover
In an interesting turn of events, I was offered two different jobs this past week. Both of these offers came with tight deadlines for accepting or declining, which added a bit of stress — the good kind, fortunately — to my weekend. In trying to decide which of the two positions to accept, I realized that this situation might come up for other job seekers and so it would be good to cover as a topic for a blog. I don't pretend to have all the answers or to be able to predict the future, but I believe I made a good decision based on the various factors that are important to me. Of course, I did a pro/con list, used a decision tree, and even went as far as doing an NPV analysis to weigh the financial benefits of both jobs before making my decision. Ultimately, the deciding factor had nothing to do with any of my analysis; I made my decision based on the limited information I had about the differences in cultures between the two organizations.
The first position I was offered requires a secret security clearance, which takes one to three months to process. For that reason, this job doesn't start until August 17. It is a job within the D.O.D. and comes with a full line of benefits, etc. I have had a few different interactions with the man who will be my boss, and he has proved exceedingly, for lack of a better word, cool. This job pays less than the other position I was offered, but it is here in San Diego and that is typically what we refer to here as the "sun tax". It makes up for the lower pay with a better education reimbursement package and a more formal OJT regimen. In addition, the people involved with the background check have been very nice in answering questions and helping me try to make a decision.
The second position I was offered requires only a very limited background check and so the job was to start in one month. It is also a federal job, but with a purely civilian agency. It pays more than the D.O.D. job and also comes with all the typical federal benefits. However, accepting this position would have required that I move back to the Bay Area within the next four weeks. This, in and of itself, wasn't too great of an issue because it would put me closer to the vast majority of my support network, which is in northern California. However, this agency was not going to assist me in making the move and the offer was a conditional one until they completed the background check they were going to do. That meant I would likely have two weeks or less to pack, move, unpack and get even remotely settled before beginning work, not a pleasant thought. In addition, the HR person I was working with gave me two days to make my decision and was not very friendly when I had questions.
At the end of the day two major issues came into play in making my decision: 1) the cultures of the organizations to which I had applied; and 2) being nervous about the D.O.D. security clearance process. The jobs weighed out relatively evenly using the various analytical tools, so the decision would end up being about where I wanted to work and how big of a chance I was willing to take more than any other factors. Now, I know that I have a pretty clean background (I have held top-secret clearances previously), but going through the process is always nerve-wracking because sometimes information that gets reported from courts or in credit reports, etc. is inaccurate and because the people performing the background checks are humans who have their own pet peeves and things they get hung up on. To help overcome this area of stress I decided to e-mail the man conducting my background check and his response to me was that he didn't see anything in my clearance paperwork that should be an issue, so as long as I told the truth (which I did) and fully disclosed everything (which I did), I should be fine. This meant that the decision would come down to culture.
Those who have read my previous blogs know that I am a big believer in "fit". It is very difficult to measure how well you will fit in with an organization as an outsider. You can do shadowing, ask questions during the interview, etc. But at the end of the day, your information will be too limited to truly make an accurate decision based on "fit". Luckily, I do have experience with the D.O.D. (I was a U.S. Marine) and so I know, in general, how the culture of that organization will be and I know that I like that culture and achieved great success in that culture. I can't say for sure that there will be a great "fit" with this particular group of D.O.D. employees, but I do believe the odds are greater knowing what I know about the culture in general. I also have some insight to the civilian agency because of my previous federal civilian experience. I worked at an agency similar to the one mentioned in number two, and it wasn't a good "fit" for me. My personality and that of the typical agency employee/manager were too different in too many ways for the situation to work out. In addition, my dealings with the various HR people at each agency said a lot about the cultures of their organizations.
Today I turned down position number two, and I am going to work on the business plan for the company I mentioned starting in my last blog, while awaiting the results of my security clearance investigation. I know that my worst case is getting turned down for my security clearance and having to start the job search all over from scratch, so I am continuing to work on my plan just in case. I would love to hear tips any of you have to help in situations like this. How do you go about deciding between two (or more) different offers?