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Golden Corral coming soon in Freehold
- wench31 Apr 26, 2013 09:28 PM
I never heard of them until they started sponsoring pro bowling a couple years ago. Given that demographic and their other sponsors (Motel 6, Dennys), let's just say my expectations aren't high!
re: ebchower
And yet this thread has 62 replies for a "restaurant" experience that can be most likened to a college cafeteria.
Says a lot about the future of locovores in NJ.
High expectations are probably what you get after hitting it and then contemplating the chocolate waterfall...
re: vikingkaj
Not sure I am explaining this well, but you can't go in with high expectations. It is what it is. It doesn't mean that those who go, don't know anything about great food. Trust me, I frequent high end NYC restaurants regularly and know good from bad. Most folks on CH also know the difference between great cuisine and Golden Corral food. I would never go to GC often, but once in awhile it's a fun experience. Along with the not so good, there are usually a few pretty good items available,+ the kids really enjoy it. I have not been to the one if Freehold yet, but the one in FL has the best fried chicken livers, I'd just for them. The fried chicken is also usually pretty good. It's a complete 180 from the dining experiences I know are considered great. It's just something I find fun to do once in a blue moon.
re: michele cindy
C'mon, it's crap. So is White Castle, but that doesn't stop people from eating a bunch of them once in a while. I don't want to hear about their "Buying Power" either. I can't go to a Costco and buy "all the steak and shrimp I can eat" for 10.99. I wonder what grade the steak is? I'm sure it would be the lowest grade fit for human consumption.
re: Herm
I take issue with you insulting White Castle.
re: coldsolderjoint
White Castle? Fried baloney on a bad biscuit they somehow refer to as a "burger?" Makes a McDonalds burger seem like Kobe Beef...
re: coldsolderjoint
Nobody insults White Castle!!! I'm going to have some for lunch.
re: vikingkaj
...and you can get 2nd's, AND 3rd's ! ! !
re: ebchower
I'm just sayin it's a college cafeteria. If your idea of good food is saga food service then go for it.
re: vikingkaj
Looks like they beat the Guest Meal Rates at Rutgers Busch/Piscataway....
Rates below remain in effect from Fall 2013 through Spring 2014.
Breakfast $8.00 plus 7% sales tax $8.56
Lunch $11.50 plus 7% sales tax $12.31
Dinner $17.50 plus 7% sales tax $18.73
Brunch $11.55 plus 7% sales tax $12.31
Rutgers Students are tax exempt by showing a valid student I.D.
Children's Rate for guests 10 and under
Breakfast $5.75 plus 7% sales tax $6.15
Lunch $8.00 plus 7% sales tax $8.56
Dinner $13.00 plus 7% sales tax $13.91
Brunch $8.00 plus 7% sales tax $8.56
Children over age 10 pay the regular guest meal rate.
re: vikingkaj
This is timely given that Spring 2014 ends... Today!
Is this another chain restaurant? Hope not...Freehold is going to be known as the "king of the Chains"...
I visited my first Golden Corral in 1979 in Vero Beach, FL.. In the 27 years I lived there, I made maybe a dozen return trips. Not bad, not great, I never heard anyone rave about it or complain about it. Just one of those places that, for one reason or other, you stop in from time to time. I haven't been to another for at least 10 years, although there are a few here in GA. Not sure about their current offerings, but the salad bar and the baked potato bar were popular back in the day. They also made a pretty tasty hamburger.
re: grampart
Not a good sign when your Wikipedia page has a Salmonella section.
re: ebchower
$hit happens.
re: ebchower
re: ebchower
But they have a chocolate waaaterfallll.
re: ebchower
They now have a facebook page so you can "like' them:
re: equal_Mark
That's pretty dam funny Mr. =
re: equal_Mark
Report back on your experience.
Any restaurant can be mismanaged. Not defending GC, but there are many GCs that are much cleaner than this.
GC corporate should be all over this, including replacing any and everyone who does or ignores this.
The local inspectors should immediately put this place on watch and do multiple unannounced visits.
I wonder if this is why we've been seeing more Ads on TV.
We stopped at one in North Carolina on a road trip down to Miami once. I thought it was pretty good for road food. Especially for the money.
But you know.. I agree with the others here, its just sort of a place you end up at once in awhile. And of course your going to have to accept the fact that most of the other patrons will have no idea what a calorie is or what fresh means. LOL
I've been waiting for the rumored Cracker Barrel to open up. Chicken and Dumplins!
re: joonjoon
The one in Aberdeen?
re: equal_Mark
Yep that's the one! Went there a few times visiting Fort Monmouth peeps...
re: joonjoon
I didn't know you were a Ft. Monmouth peep. Guess you decided to stay and find new employment, good for you!
The only GC I've ever been to was in Mt. Airy, North Carolina. While it wasn't terrible you get what you pay for......what do they charge $10.99 for all you can eat? What can you really expect.
re: jrvedivici
I'm not a Ft. Monmouth person but I had a few friends who worked there..
Yeah seriously - but honestly for 10 bucks and change it's a pretty impressive spread. I went one time for AYCE ribs and it was kinda decent. Some times their steaks are even edible.
Not bad for 10 bucks.
re: joonjoon
Oh so its going to be across from "Golden Bell Diner" or whatever that place is now called. Great. Another place to avoid in my town.
re: shesallthat
Same side as the Golden Bell, north of Three Brooks road.
re: joonjoon
I was given my "Retirement luncheon" there a couple years ago after opting out of a move to the culinary wasteland down in Aberdeen. I behaved and made an enjoyable time of it.
Next time you are down there visiting Ft. Monmouth ex pats, take them to Mamies... http://www.mamiescafewithlove.com/
re: equal_Mark
Ah I'm glad you stuck with us =M! Aberdeen is indeed a culinary wasteland but there's some interesting stuff there. Mamies is by far my favorite joint in that area...have you tried their shrimp salad and crab cake club? Killer.
re: drongo
But is cat food all you can eat for $10.95???
re: jrvedivici
LOL.. all you CAN eat or all you WANT to eat?
re: drongo
If you actually look at cat food on a per pound basis, it's not exactly cheap.
Our cat is really fussy and will only eat the fancy brand. Unless you get it on sale it's like $4.75 a pound. (89 cents a can and 5.3 cans to a pound)
This week Best Market in Holmdel has Nebraska Angus USDA choice NY strips for $ 4.99 a pound.
re: vikingkaj
re: joonjoon
Yep. It's awesome.
You must live in the most god-foresaken wasteland for restaurants on the planet if you think Golden Corral is a YAY. Sorry.
re: Terrie H.
I believe it was sarcasm.
But since this is New Jersey, maybe the "god-foresaken wasteland" is not a bad description <gd&r>.
re: drongo
I do hope so.
Putting aside the nasty video for the moment... When we drive to FL we always end up a the Golden Corral in Royal Palm Beach. It's the only one I've ever been to. This one appears clean and I have never seen anything like shown in the video. Given that... the food isn't great, but you do find a few things on the buffet that are pretty tasty. My favorite, deep fried chicken liver. The banana pudding is also pretty good. While I do enjoy fine dining, GC is in it's own category. Kind of like the way White Castles are to burgers. They aren't a great burger, but they really can hit the spot when you are craving one. My family will be very excited to hear this and we will take the 1.5 hour drive to go this GC to give it a go. And yes like the other poster mentioned, a chocolate fountain is enticing to the kids but my favorite is the ayce cotton candy certainly making this certainly worth the drive!
The latest on their Facebook page.
We've had so many people ask us when we will be opening. We have a tentative date but because of the weather and other factors it is hard to give a final date. We can tell you that March is our expected month. Keep watching this page for more updates and when we get closer we will announce the Grand Opening date. Thanks to all our followers for making this page so popular, keep up the "Likes" and pass the word.
A few years ago on vaction, we had a golden corral near the resort we stayed at. My daughters asked me about it and I told them that before they were born, when mommy and daddy didn't have much money, we walked into there to eat and walked right out because it is gross.
They now refer to the restaurant as "Stinky Corral" everytime they see a commerical or the restaurant.
Just thought I would share that with everybody.
re: joestein
In what way was it "gross"? Was that your only GC experience? Do you assume that they are all "gross"?
re: grampart
Yes, that is my one and only GC experience.
I called it gross because the food I viewed on the buffet seemed very low quality.
I have not seen or heard anything since that would change my mind.
Apologies to any GC enthusiasts.
re: joestein
I like Golden Corral! Their dinner rolls are top notch...I swear if they served 'em at a high end restaurant people would think it was the bees knees.
Their sauteed mushrooms are fantastic too.
re: joonjoon
They also have great fried chicken livers.
re: michele cindy
I didn't know they had those! I'd go to town on that.
re: joonjoon
I've only been to one GC in Royal Palm FL. Hoping they have them at the Freehold location.
re: joestein
Last year during the month of December, I took advantage of the warm weather(50-60*) and a low room rate at Caesar's Boardwalk to play some golf. I had heard GC was not bad from friends, so It was in my plans to give it a try. On the first day down, i finished golf a little too early to have dinner, so I went towards the hotel. Since I was by myself, I had no real desire to sit in a restaurant by myself, but I tried to see if I could get into Chef Vola's, however, it was closed. Whitehouse Subs was also closed due to renovations ...the after effects from Hurricane Sandy if I can recall correctly. Beaten down, I went to the Hotel and tried to see what my options were....Nothing hit me and I did not feel like driving over to the Borgata...so I ended up on premise at the Caesar's Buffet. It was something like $40 plus tax and gratuity. The food looked well presented, but it was fair at best. Inedible steak, cheap shrimp and overcooked everything else.
The next day after golf dinner at GC with drink was <$15. The steak was tender, the Fried chicken was excellent, a little salad and some Ice Cream. It was better than at Caesar's. If one were closer to me, I would have no problem going there for the food or convenience. I was pleasantly surprised by the operation, one particular cook and my server.....and left in a better mood than the previous night.
re: ebchower
I definitely plan on going.
re: ebchower
Ohhhh my inner glutton will bring me there sooner or later. My only experience with them is from visiting family in rural Virginia, there is a GC in the nearest big city (about a 30 drive) and let me tell you, it's "the" place to go!
I've never found it to be offensive, besides some of the customers.
re: jrvedivici
Now they are talking early May to open. There's also a White Castle on 18 that looks ready to open but hasn't so far. All these fine dining establishments playing cat and mouse. I can't take it much longer.
re: ebchower
Mmm... Chocolate showers AND fried baloney buns!
re: ebchower
Oh, I'll probably be there on opening day. My favorite restaurant is a buffet. And, I'll admit, my current favorite restaurant around here is Freehold Grand Buffet. Good sushi. Not the fanciest, but solid. I ate there on Sunday. Mostly ate sushi. Heck of a lot less money than eating at Tokyo up the road.
My second favorite is Teppanyaki Grill & Sushi Buffet in East Brunswick. Okay sushi.. sometimes pretty good. Enough of other stuff to keep me interested. Hibachi grill in back, along with carvable meats. Some very intriguing dishes that mostly only Asians would find interesting, (and lots of Asians eating there). And the prices are insanely low. Like I paid $6.38 for weekday lunch (with a coupon) before tax and tip.
re: MarlboroMan
How's the actual buffet food at the Freehold Grand Buffet? I used to go to the buffet in West Long Branch on 36 but it's too far and too pricey from what I remember.
re: Dinermite
Used to go to Freehold Grand Buffet all the time. Thought they were the best AYCE buffet in the area. Loved their crab legs. However, for the last couple of years it seemed to me their food quality has declined. Different supplier(s) or different cooks? Either way, they're not as good as they once were.
re: gigotz
I like it just fine. But I like to go there alone. I feel too rushed with my kids. One time we went there, filled up our plates, sat down, my daughter flipped out, we had to pay full price and leave.. argggh...
For dinner they serve decent sashimi as well as nigiris and creative rolls. The sushi there used to be a joke.. it was like.. roll out tray of rice, lay salmon on top, cut into rectangles.. but now it is actually decent, with a dedicated walk-up sushi bar.
I've seen lobster there occasionally as well. Sure, you see some bad reviews on Yelp, but I take Yelp with a grain of salt (or two). One time, coming back from picking up our 2nd daughter in Florida (adoption), we were looking for a place to eat, and there was a Sizzler, or something similar. I looked it up on Yelp. 2 reviews. Both 1 star. It couldn't be THAT bad! So, we went. It was actually pretty good for that type of restaurant. No, not 5 star cuisine, but sheesh, come on, Yelpers.
So, for me, I would rate Freehold Grand Buffet 5 stars.. good selection of tasty food at a reasonable price. Clean, staff is nice enough, and there's even a coupon on your iphone (Double Take Offers) for 10% off if you're paying cash.
Used to love the Marco Polo down the street, but that place is long gone, unfortunately. Only other Asian buffets around there are Tokyo Hibachi & Sushi, also in Freehold, which is decent, but a little pricier. You could still go there for lunch for $11.00, not eat sushi at all, and leave satisfied. There's more than enough to choose from.
re: MarlboroMan
I dislike buffet dining,....
But, "Fortune Buffet" in Toms River Rt 37 seems to be the front runner so far...IMO.
re: wench31
Nothing new on their Facebook page...
I originally heard a tentative date of May 20th.. but who knows..? And I can't remember where I read that now.
One thing that I find really cool is that besides Molly Pitcher and perhaps Bensi (who offers a Sunday Brunch), Golden Corral will be the only restaurant offering a breakfast buffet on the weekends (til 11 am). Their website advertises this for $7.99 including coffee and juice. Quite a bargain! I think I can eat 8 dollars just in bacon. :)
re: MarlboroMan
What's the chances the buffet will offer real scrambled eggs?
re: ebchower
50 / 50....or if they have an Omelet station...100%
re: MarlboroMan
The Mill in Spring Lake Hgts. has a Sunday Brunch Buffet.
re: SusieQQ
Hahahahahaha I'm sure the Mill in Spring Lake appreciates being mentioned in the same thread, or compared to the Golden Corral!! Look out Mill......!!!
re: MarlboroMan
I called up Golden Corral's headquarters and they say that the restaurant is aiming to open by Memorial Day Weekend.
I actually had lunch at the TGIF two stores down from the Golden Corral today. The sign is up "Opening Soon, Now Hiring" they were doing the landscaping and finishing outside touches. It would be my guesstimate based on what I saw today that they are withing two weeks of opening.
It must be the same land owner for the Corral, as the Bank and TGIF's, since the parking lot joins all three locations.
re: gigotz
Not too shabby of my estimate "within two weeks".
re: gigotz
Thank you!
re: wench31
We went tonight. Total for 2 adults, a 5 year old, and a 17 month old: about $37 and change. Adults were $11.99 each. 5 year old was $5.99. Baby was free. Drinks were extra. Pepsi products. I love root beer, but they had really excellent sweet tea, so we had that. They also had horchata for an additional upcharge.. and some Jamaican punch drink.. weird. will try the horchata next time. Oh yes, there will be a next time.
This is now the 5 year old's new FAVORITE restaurant. It now beats out IHOP and Bertucci's. Wait to get in was about 10 minutes for us. The line moved fast. When we left, though, line stretched considerably out into the parking lot.
Yep, it was crowded. I did not get to sample everything. Didn't like the NE clam chowder much. Best parts of the meal were the honey teriyaki wings, steak, and chocolate fountain. Keep in mind I stay as gluten free as possible so no fried chicken, etc, and there were a lot of battered items, yet I found plenty to eat. BBQ chicken was great. Wings were all non-breaded, and very moist. Steak I thought was excellent for this type of place. Tender enough, well seasoned, cooked how I liked it. I asked for medium rare, expected well-done, got closer to rare. Very pleased. Great sear and flavor. Would go back just for the wings and steak alone.
Looking forward to trying breakfast some weekend morning. Steak and eggs cooked to order!
re: MarlboroMan
I went on the same day you did! But, I went straight after school to avoid the long lines! Figured that's the only way to avoid standing in line! :). The early bird special is $8.99 till 4 pm. 7.99 if you're a senior citizen. Got there 3:50. The fried chicken was delicious! I loved the steak as well. Couldn't finish it. Had to share it with hubby. Dessert was great as well. Chocolate fountain was great and the cotton candy was nice as well. There were a lot of sugar free dessert as well and they were surprisingly good as well. By the time we were done, the line was starting to build up but it didn't go out the door yet. I want to try breakfast as well but not up to waiting on line. Maybe we will try it this summer out of town! By the way, IHOP took over Carina's in Howell and is now open.
re: wench31
I put down 5 plates plus a dessert plate.
It seems like most of the line is the slow-down from people getting their drinks and then waiting to be seated right after paying. A guess its a corporate model, but seems like some more waiting room post cash register would be appropriate there.
I know it was a mistake, but the Chinese food and Mexican options were bad.
Meat loaf and the home style stuff was pretty good, especially considering the price.
Teryaki wings where quite good for being all you can eat.
Steak was surprisingly good for being a low priced buffet, a little on the salty side, but cooked well, and decent quality considering the price.
I did not enjoy the fried chicken. Maybe I got a bad batch, the skin was both crispy and oily, and the meat inside was mushy. I felt bad for having the server through it away, but I did not enjoy it.
I might be burned at the stake for saying this, but the pizza and garlic bread sticks were pretty good for being a buffet. And I know its not a fair comparison to a mom and pop red sauce place, but if you compare it to a place like CiCi's. Not bad at all.
The yeast rolls where quite good. Similar to texas road house rolls. however, I tried not to fill up on bread.
Although I didn't partake, the salad bar side of the buffet looked pretty fresh with lots of options.
Chocolate Pudding tasted like it was straight out of a can. Banana pudding was quite tasty.
Chocolate fountain was fun, but perhaps they could use a bit more employee oversight with unsupervised children since some parents can't be bothered to do such.
Service was fast and efficient at clearing the plates and offering refills on soda.
The two different soda options are confusing for a first timer. A regular glass and a large big-gulp style cup.
Not sure what the policy on tipping them is? I left 20%.. maybe a bit much, but I've been in the service industry, and it didn't seem like many people where leaving tips.
All in All, if they can keep the quality and cleanliness up, we will probably visit a few times a few times a year and strap on the old feed bag.
re: coldsolderjoint
I haven't been in quite a while but my favorite dish there is the sauteed mushrooms...anyone try those?
Marlboro Man - what time did you get there? What do you think is a good time so we don't end up waiting in a huge line? I've only been to the GC in Royal Palm Beach FL, and their lunch differs from their dinner, for a few items. Wondering if anyone can report back on how the Freehold location differs.
re: michele cindy
Michele.. I would suggest getting there on the early side for dinner.. or do what we did this past Saturday.. we went for breakfast on Saturday, but got there kind of late (unintentionally).. paid for breakfast, and they started pulling breakfast items, so we got a little breakfast and a little lunch as well.
So, I didn't get steak and eggs, or a made to order omelette, but at $7.99 for breakfast, including coffee and all the bacon I could eat, well, I find that pretty hard to beat.
I think the initial excitement has worn off so the lines should be more manageable at this point, hopefully.
Oh, and per Joonjoon, I tried the sauteed mushrooms. Yep, really good. Very buttery.
For Father's Day the dinner price goes up a dollar. Not sure what that's all about. Either charging more because they can.. or.. maybe there's something special like prime rib?
Yay????? Huh? My husband made me promise to shoot him if he ever suggested going there, and we don't even have guns!
re: zeldaz51
I can't believe people are saying this shit is good.
Mind = blown. How bad is the food in New Jersey?
re: vikingkaj
I haven't been to this GC, but I have found things I enjoyed even though they are not "good cuisine" at the one in Royal Palm FL.
re: vikingkaj
re: EatFoodGetMoney
The fact that this is one of the most popular threads really shocks me. Either this is some sick prank or some of our chowhounder's taste buds have been zapped. I can accept that they may have a few decent items, but what about the other 95% at the trough. Plus, this is a well known chain. I thought the idea of chowhound was to share the special finds serving quality food by passionate owners. Come on chowhound, end this madness already.
And for the record, NJ has some fantastic spots. It seems that many aren't appreciated unless they serve huge portions at cheap prices. Thus the only reason Golden Corral is even discussed on this board. This just makes me sad.
re: LifeGeek
There is an entire section devoted to Chains on Chowhound. It's all about finding something you like and really enjoy. If they had something I really enjoyed at this GC you bet I'd be there in a heartbeat regardless if 80% is not up to snuff. I haven't been there, but I'm willing to give it a shot to find out.
re: michele cindy
I still don't understand why it takes 115...er...116 messages, thanks to my latest contribution, to explain the offerings of a chain restaurant. By definition, most of them serve the same menu usually sourced from some generic food distribution center all aimed at keeping cost down so the can offer as much food to the masses as possible all for 9.95. It isn't that complicated. If you like shoveling as much down your gullet for the lowest possible price, then this is the spot for you. It isn't like they are going to offer up locally sourced produce or meat cooked by someone that has trained for years in a field that he is passionate about. Call me a quality over quantity guy. Very few chains can balance both although a few do try their best.
re: LifeGeek
I agree with what you saying but it's not the point I am trying to make. Have you ever eaten something that may not have been the best quality but enjoyed it just the same? My favorite fast food is a jack in the box taco. It's a good thing there aren't any nearby, I'd be in trouble. Are they good food? No but I would drive a good distance to have one. The GC I went to had decent fried chicken and really good fried chicken livers. Id love to have them along with an ayce salad bar (providing it was clean and we'll managed)
re: michele cindy
That's fair, but my point is that I would forgo the one or two items on a chain restaurant any day if it meant that something else opened in its place that served outstanding and interesting food. I'm really tired of mediocre chains serving subpar food when there are so many talented people that can't open a place because these chains artificially inflate prices due to their economy of scale. Put another way, it takes so much effort for a small business to survive even if their food is amazing. If a place like Golden Corral didn't have the support of the corporate office and was opened by an individual serving horrible food, it would close in a week.
We as consumers have to start demanding better food from chains and better consciousness. It is unacceptable to me that these guys can get away with having a few slightly ok items on the menu and stay open. I know one local guy that ran a well known restaurant on the shore that got destroyed by sandy. His food absolutely destroys anything you could get at the Golden Corral hands down. Yet, since he doesn't have the marketing and money of Golden Corral he is having trouble reopening. And we as consumers of great food suffer for it as well as the community.
re: LifeGeek
As a business and restaurant owner I can assure you if your local guy is still out of business since Sandy it is because he was either non or under insured. It isn't because Gold Corral ( or others ) are keeping him down.
re: jrvedivici
All fair points and I intend to find out later this week when we meet. Hopefully things will work out and he will be up and running again.
re: LifeGeek
Hopefully they do, I'm in the corner of the independent/family owned business / restaurant. I'm just not as critical towards GC because I do feel they serve a need at a certain price point most others do not.
From reading your posts on this topic, congratulations on being at a point in life were GC isn't a dining option for you or your family. Unfortunately you (and I) I think are in a shrinking number of people who can afford and want better when they dine out. GC serves a growing population who for $50. and under can take their family of 4 out to dinner for a decent/good meal.
That seems to be supported by the amount of interest this thread/topic has received on this board. If Chow is considered the "upper echelon" food site, and GC garners this much interest, that is evidence alone of the appeal of decent food at excellent prices.
Hey even though I'm not their prime demographic can I rule out never going there? Hell no. I'll tell you right now there will be a day/night where I've got my 16 year old son and a few of his friends and decide to take them there and let them loose. Rather than dropping a couple hundred at TGIF's on wings, salad, soup, entree', entree', entree' (yes growing boy's will eat multiple entree's) and desert. (Ok there will be a few martini's on the TGIF's check vs. GC)
re: jrvedivici
I grew up were going to a buffet was a huge deal and a rare 'treat.' I never liked the idea of this concept. I would always complain and ask why we couldn't eat at my grandmother's house like we normally did on weekends. Her food destroyed anything served at these places and at a fraction of the cost. I learned to cook from her and the ingredients usually came from the garden or through bartering with local farmers for food. I grew up extremely poor, but ate better than most people do today. Funny how I was made fun of back then for eating what today is considered expensive 'farm to table.' Call me old fashioned, but I think this type of eating isn't out of reach for most of us here in NJ. It just requires a little more effort, but not necessarily more cost.
re: LifeGeek
Look I've enjoyed our conversation thus far but you cannot pull the "grandma" card !! Nothing compares to grandma's cooking, that goes without saying!!
Funny many of my earliest cooking memories were with my grandmother who lived with us. She would start cooking 6am for Sunday dinners (Italian pot of gravy, meats and homemade pasta) and my uncles and cousins would come over around 3pm. Those were the days.
re: jrvedivici
Haha. Ok, I'll give you that one! I'll move on now to other matters as I'm sure people know our stance on the issue. This is what an open forum is all about. Open and frank discussion can lead to a positive outcome. Who knew a disagreement could get me some good advice on the restaurant business. Thanks again for offering the advice despite our disagreement.
I will say that the world would have been a better place if GC stood for Grandma's Corral!
Sorry had to get in one last jab...
re: jrvedivici
Double meh on the grandmothers, both of my grandmothers were awful cooks. There are stories about my one grandmother and the first porterhouse my grandfather brought home. She cooked it like a pot roast.
My grandfathers, on the other hand, were great cooks. Especially with wild fish and game. Amazing.
re: LifeGeek
Was the fact that your grandmothers food "destroyed" stuff served elsewhere a good thing? :-)
re: equal_Mark
It sure was! With the proliferation of how - to cooking shows and the Internet, there is really little reason that the average person can't produce high quality dishes at home. In NJ we are very lucky to have so much great ingredients avaliable to us locally. And a lot of these potential meals can be had at much lower costs than taking the family out to eat.
re: jrvedivici
But we note that Golden Corral did not place their Monmouth County venture in Sea Bright...
re: vikingkaj
And maybe I don't have all the information correct. What happened to those that leased a space from someone without having equity in the building? There are many talented people that want to start businesses that are having a hard time getting a loan. For someone that wants to specialize in great food and craft beer, the liquor license alone are almost prohibitive for someone without financial backing. If you have expertise in this area, jr, I would love to get your advise. You might even get me to reverse my position on GC! ;)
I'm hoping to do my part and help out with the financing side of things if the right opportunity presents itself. I know the insurance alone in highlands, NJ has pretty much crushed hopes of starting up there.
re: LifeGeek
While it is illegal in NJ to "lease" a liquor license, it is common practice for landlords who own a property and a liquor license to create a partnership or LLC with the tenant/operator which allows the operator to use the liquor license of the property owner. Generally the use of the license is compensated to the landlord through inflated rent. For example fair rent for the location might be $5,000. per month in an arrangement as exampled above the landlord might get $7,500 or $30,000 per year for use of the license. (generally more in NJ)
I have owned several licenses out right over years and have also operated under arrangements similar to the above. I have an email address on my profile if you have any other questions please feel free to use it. I am NOT an attorney for full disclosure. lol
re: jrvedivici
That is very helpful jr! I will get a little more information this week of his arrangement and email you next week. I'm very hopeful to help this person get back up and running as would many in the area and on this board would be I'm sure. Thanks so much for your help.
re: LifeGeek
Gotta be Twin Lights Taphouse that you've been referring to. Great food & Beer, plus a royal fucking over by Sandy & landlord.
re: jrvedivici
I guess I'm just going on the craft beer comment. I'm also trying to think of a place with great food that closed, and hasn't reopened. Other than Bay Ave. Trattoria, I can't think of many more. I'd also like to point out that I am thinking the of the Atlantic Higlands - Sea Bright area.
re: michele cindy
"There is an entire section devoted to Chains on Chowhound. "
Right. So why isn't this thread on the Chains board?
re: Bob Martinez
Because it is focused on one particular restaurant in NJ.
re: LifeGeek
I believe the motto here is "Devorabit Omnibus Postulo Plus" which translates roughly to eat everything and get seconds.
I ate at Golden Coral last Saturday night, not in Freehold though, in Mt Airy NC. This wasn't my first time, I've been to this location a few times over the past couple years while visiting family in the area.
I really take exception to people just calling this food crap, it's honestly not at all. It might be fun to poke fun at it, it's price or it's customers. I like going there because I look rather petite in that crowd, but still to just call the place or customers or fans derogatory names is just wrong.
There is a price point for all kinds of restaurants, Golden Coral is on the absolute lowest price point of any dine in restaurant. It's an all you can eat buffet with a very large selection or variety of foods, including 5 oz servings of sirloin/strip steak.
It is truly remarkable the quality of the food for it being an all you can eat buffet. Nothing is gourmet, 75% of it is traditional continental comfort foods, meatloaf, pot roast, fried chicken, mashed potato's, Mac n cheese etc. Nothing most of us would ever order off a menu, but it's there it's good and it's $10.+- including drink. (I honestly don't even know what they exactly charge)
For $10. It's GOOD! Dare I say for $10. It's excellent. I defy anyone to show me a better alternative at this price point. I can tell you personally I have wasted far worse money on $50+ steaks, $10 baked potatoes and $12 Mac n cheese than what Golden Coral is serving.
There is a place in the world for dining at this price point, and for restaurants at this price point I think Golden Coral is about the best. If you are "above" dining at such places, good for you, but don't just ridicule those who aren't.
For a lot of people a night out with the family is about a lot more than just the sheer extravagance of the experience. Golden Coral offers an excellent value for those looking for one.
What's the chow saying, don't yuck someone's yum.
re: jrvedivici
Golden Coral is an interesting place; first it is low quality in most respects, heavily tenderized meats, suspect seafood,
and the clientele, made up of a good percentage of "professional eaters", those who can, and do, comsume huge quantities of food. When I say huge quantities, I mean several plate loads of fried, creamed, fatty, over salted, sugary, (rather, high fructose Corn syrup) stuff!
There is no magic in restaurant service........In order to sell it cheaply, you must buy the ingredients even more cheaply. Quality must suffer as a result.
re: jrvedivici
Right now our early bird special is just $7.49 drink included. You heard that right: choose from all the delicious food you love and your drink is included for just $7.49!
It's appetizers, farm fresh vegetables, and entrees like our slow roasted pot roast or our famous meat loaf… not to mention our new and improved Las Vegas-style desserts.
re: Tapas52
That's the senior early bird special.
re: Disneyfreak
They should make it FREE to eat at GC and optional to pay....like Bon Jovis "Soul Kitchen".....
see how well that goes...lol
re: Tapas52
Tapas did you get a job at GC?
re: joonjoon
Honestly I wouldn't even walk in there if it was free lol ... :-0
re: Tapas52
I'm surprised no one has yet said, "I could be starving to death and I wouldn't eat there".
re: grampart
crack. this thread is pure crack - draws you in and doesn't let go.
How it's over 160 replies and good local chow topics are lucky to get a dozen replies is sad.
re: Foody4life
" How it's over 160 replies and good local chow topics are lucky to get a dozen replies is sad. "
A mathematician would use the term "Least Common Denominator". LOL
re: Foody4life
Your reply adds one more, and the thread marches on... :-)
re: Foody4life
Funniest thing I've read on CH in a long time. I'm wiping my eyes from crying, laughing so hard.
re: southernitalian
The "Early Bird Special" kinda reminds me of when we stopped in to "Mom's Griddle" restaurant about a week ago. Okay, $7.49, including a beverage, is a bargain. For seniors. I thought an "early bird special" was supposed to be a bargain. Well, it's not the case at "Mom's Griddle". Nope, their "Early Bird Menu" from 3-6 pm only ranges from about $10.99 - $16.99. No bargains there. I went with corned beef hash and eggs, which was actually really good.
re: joonjoon
very good question......But I do not plqan to ever go back.......
Gave it a try for lunch yesterday. I've been to Hometown Buffet and Southern Smokehouse in Linden. I thought GC was more like a cafeteria and less cozy. That whole thing about buying your drink at the register is awkward. Some instructions from the cashier would have been helpful such as "have a seat and a server will be with you" or "you are free to help yourself." I did the latter.
I thought the meat selections were ok. Tried the pot roast, meat loaf and several kinds of chicken. But the pizza and dinner rolls were ice cold. Wanted to try a steak, but didn't see any. I guess you have to ask for it? Several empty dishes accumulated before anyone approached to take them away. A cup of coffee would have hit the spot with dessert. Hometown provides that self serve. But I didn't see it here and didn't feel like asking. Took some pudding, a cookie and just had to stick a Rice Krispy treat in the chocolate fountain. The weekend breakfast might put a hurting on the Perkins across the street. I'd give that a try before going back for dinner.
The whole experience left me a little cold compared to other places like it. Management should do something to make sure there's a little more interaction with customers. Maybe greeting them when they come in, or after they pay. Even a word or two from the workers tending to the buffet as people are filling their plates. It had a very standoffish vibe.
re: ebchower
Chew and screw? LOL
I agree about the drink situation. VERY awkward place to locate the drinks.. they couldn't have had the foresight to plan that better? It inconveniences both the people waiting in line as well as the people trying to get drinks. Try doing it with a 5 year old and a 17 month old strapped into a high chair (that would be me!)
There's one of two possible solutions: either separate the drink section from the line entirely, or have the servers bring your drinks. After all, if you want a refill, they bring you that.. why can't they bring your initial drink? Oh yeah.. you have to pay for it first. What.. are they afraid people will skip out on the bill?
So, you decide what size drink you want, and they give you a token or something, and you turn that in for your drink.
For a company that's been in business since 1973 with 500 locations, you'd think they'd have a better system.
re: MarlboroMan
Only thing I can think of is that maybe in other areas of the country, its not a problem?
I remember going to one in North Carolina a few years ago with a very similar set up, but I don't recall having any of these problems.
I went to a Bob Evans in Florida once for breakfast, and it was though the staff thought I was planning on spending the entire morning there. And that seemed to be the status quo.
re: ebchower
I think the steak is available only for dinner. They call it sirloin, though it's hard for me to see how they manage that at their price point. But perhaps it's Standard or Commercial grade?
re: drongo
Pasteurized process marinated beef product
re: vikingkaj
and you know this how?
re: fourunder
Comes in a baggie full of tenderizer and a flavor enhancing solution, controlled 5 oz portion. The line cooks just pop it on the grill.
Since it is fully permeated with chemicals and retained solution it is difficult, but not impossible, to overcook.
Don't go anywhere near a black light after eating too many since you may glow in the dark.
re: vikingkaj
I'll repeat....and you know this how? Portion control is nothing new to the restaurant industry...nor the home retail market. Some of the finest and busiest restaurants in the country use them.
for the record, anything can be overcooked easily and no solution or chemical will reduce that possibility.
re: drongo
Meat does not have to be graded, even if it's Prime quality to sold retail, wholesale or served in restaurants.
I know of nos such thing as Standard or Commercial Grade by the USDA
re: fourunder
Follow the link & scroll down fourunder my friend.
re: fourunder
Sure it does, scroll down about halfway. It's there in black & white Prime, Choice, Select, Standard, Commercial & Utility.
re: fourunder
The link provided by Herm does list Standard and Commercial in some of the tables. And even a lower Utility grade. I don't know whether these grades exist in practice. I found the Standard and Commercial listed in another document -- I don't have any expertise in meat grading myself.
re: drongo
Having just been to the GC in Mt Airy NC last week I can personally attest to the fact the steak is edible. Quality? I couldn't say that but better than anything at TGIF or Ruby Tuesday etc. They only serve 5oz portions per trip to the station, so I had 3-4 pieces and it wasn't that bad. I put some of their private label A-1 on those bad boys and chewed them up. They weren't that "chewy" either, I was very pleasantly surprised by the steak.
An even bigger surprise were their wings and fried chicken, both were good to very good.
re: jrvedivici
"I don't always eat steak, but when I do, I back it up with fried chicken & wings". Sounds like a plan.
re: jrvedivici
Do they have a GC in Mount Pilot? I would insert smiley face but I just don't do that.
re: James Cristinian
Familiar with the area I see!
re: jrvedivici
Not too familiar, but way back I was driving between Raleigh and Mount Pilot and I got caught in a speed trap. Some wacky deputy threw me in jail on a trumped up charge with a drunk guy. While the deputy was on the phone with Thelma Lou, or was it Juanita Ramsey, I noticed the keys were in arms reach and I skeedaddled out of town. The drunk guy never woke up, and the deputy never looked up. Funny thing, I never saw a Golden Corral but a nice lady named Ain't Bea brought me the best fried chicken I've ever had before my escape. Do you think Golden Corral uses Ain't Bea's recipe, maybe just in North Carolina? Never did catch the name of that little town.
re: James Cristinian
Well played.
re: James Cristinian
I think I've been there. Was it Goober or Gomer at the filling station?
re: vikingkaj
Didn't catch the name but he said his cousin had gone off and joined the Marines and the sheriff was off to California to check on him.
re: drongo
Are all Golden Corrals near a race track like this one? (Thinking about that price point thing)
After reading this post, I ventured to our local GC for the first time. i do not, ordinarily, eat at chains,but I was curious. For lunch, I had a fried chicken thigh, spoonful of mashed potatoes, collards,and iced tea. It was all perfectly acceptable, but since I don't eat a huge amount, the $12 charge seemed high.
re: pikawicca
You are exactly the customer GC hopes comes through their doors....one who finds it satisfactory or acceptable...and one that doesn't eat till they explode....or take more than they can eat, wasting food.
re: fourunder
I don't plan to return.
Who wants to eat at a place named for a location full of livestock poop, gold-plated or not?
re: Tapas52
I liked it, we've been there twice, we'll likely go back again. I considered going there today for lunch with my youngest daughter, but we went to Freehold Grand Buffet instead for a number of reasons.. it's slightly less money, it's MUCH easier to get seated with a high chair, it's less crowded, it's closer, etc. Oh, and they have sushi. Can you imagine GC having sushi? It's actually kind of a scary thought. :)
But would I park on Rt. 9 if the parking lot was full? Not even if it was free and they were giving out lobster!
re: MarlboroMan
Been to Marco Polos a few times when it was open with dad (90) he likes it,.....but Grand Buffet was a turn off never again.food was below standard for us.
I dislike Chinese buffet dining but if forced to go
Fortune Buffet on rt37 in Toms River is decent.
re: MarlboroMan
Hey no one beats Golden Corrals spam bar. I would take that over sushi any day.
never underestimate the culinary tastes of the average American, even so called 'foodies'. Damn, what is going on here that this thread won't DIE and disappear as it should????
141+ posts for this garbage???? Spin it all that you want. Mediocre will always be mediocre. And with good beef going for what it does these days, ever wonder wtf are you folks eating when you "mmmmmmmm', that's a pretty good steak.
re: ParadiseWaits
Did you actually read the post entries Paradise? Most of them aren't even about GC.
re: Herm
Herm, why would I read every post on this thread? I've skimmed it (anytime it finds its way to the top) and I've become nauseated. A question though. why do you think people veer off topic? ADD addled? or to quote Lennon 'everybody's talking but no one says a word.' http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBCdlB...
re: ParadiseWaits
.....or better to say nothing and be thought a fool, then to open ones mouth and remove all doubt.
re: ParadiseWaits
re: grampart
I doubt that very much. Maybe Joe Romanowski's version - yes. But GC - no thank you.
Plus, they cannot make it any better than my wife's version at the homestead. That 'favorite' of mine in the bio is the real deal and that's the sides we ALWAYS have (no corn, no green beans) - just limas (preferably 'fresh Jersey' which we get from about Aug - Nov (and which we will freeze) along with cucumber in a vignarette. The ultimate.
re: ParadiseWaits
Unfortunately, no one will be enjoying Chef Romanowski's meatloaf anymore.
To all the folks bitching and moaning about why this thread has gone on so long, as someone who has been online well before there was an internet (Fido BBS and other packet carriers): AS LONG AS YOU KEEP BITCHING ABOUT IT IT STAYS ALIVE.
Shut up! Don't reply. If you see new posts to the thread DON'T READ THEM. Let it go... Is it really that hard? Feh.
I tried out the breakfast/brunch this weekend. If I go back, it will be for this and not the dinner. The only thing I didn't care for was the smoked sausage. Sampled the scrambled eggs, biscuits, pancakes, french toast, bacon and hash browns. All decent and the coffee was good, There was much more available that what I tried. Sliced ham, chicken and individual servings of Kelloggs cereals to name a few. Everything had the calorie count posted, which is like passing out bibles on the Vegas strip. I settled on a piece of fruit for dessert.


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I made this turkey breast for my first formal dinner party as a newlywed. It was such a success that it's become a standby on all of my entertaining menus.
10-12 Servings
Prep: 10 min. Bake: 2 hours + standing
1 bone-in turkey breast (5 to 6 pounds)
5 teaspoons lemon juice
1 tablespoon olive oil
1 to 2 teaspoons pepper
1 teaspoon dried rosemary, crushed
1 teaspoon dried thyme
1 teaspoon garlic salt
1 medium onion, cut into wedges
1 celery rib, cut into 2-inch pieces
1/2 cup white wine
chicken broth
Preheat oven to 325°.With fingers, carefully loosen the skin from
both sides of turkey breast. Combine lemon juice and oil; brush
under the skin. Combine the pepper, rosemary, thyme and garlic salt;
rub over turkey.
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15 minutes before carving. Yield: 10-12 servings.
Nutritional Facts:
5 ounces cooked turkey equals 285 calories,
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There have been many analyses of Skype's behaviour over the years (the most famous perhaps is from Baset and Schultzrinne), but as far as Vulture Central is aware, nobody has yet gone so far as to reverse-engineer the whole kit-and-caboodle. That's the claim being made by Efim Bushmanov on this blog, where he offers his reverse- …
Microsoft should have waited a few months, with all the bad publicity they could have probably picked up Skype for a lot less $$
Does this really matter though?
Apart from the fact that we don't have any details of the efficacy of this software, we haven't yet heard from Microsoft. Is it not possible that this actually won't really rock the boat? Mind you, there is a certain ghoulish part of me that hopes it does.
not this issue
Think he is referring to the report that Egyptian security services were able to evesdrop on skype conversations during Arab spring protests. Of course they just installed zero day malware that listened to audio stream after decryption on the client which is more an indictment of winblows than skype.
That would have defeated the whole reason
MS wanted to "buy a verb" and to make a good show in front of their shareholders.
If they had waited for the Skype hubbub to die down they would not have "bought a verb" and shareholders would have asked why they bought something as outdated as Skype.
IANAL so bear with me here....
But isn't it OK to reverse engineer proprietary protocols in the EU for the purposes of interoperability something along those lines?
A protocol is different
I hope somebody explains this in more detail, but a protocol is really only a description that you
implement in your own program your own way.
IANAL either
That may have been ok if that was all he had done. From the sounds of it, he de-compiled the binary back into source code and then posted it to the internet, which is a flagrant breach of copyright.
Re: isn't it OK [...] in the EU
IANAL either, but I have "A Guidebook to Intellectual Property" here (ISBN 0-421-48730-5) published in 1993 (yeah, I know) and it says...
"Nor is it an infringment to convert a program from a high-level language to a low-level one (i.e., decompile it) [sic] or copy it by doing so, provided it is necessary to decompile it to create an independent program which can be operated with the existing one and the information is not used for any other purpose. Also, it is not an infringement to do things necessary to use the program such as correcting errors in programs unless that is specifically forbidden by contract. These exceptions derive from an EC directive and they were inserted into the Copyright, Designs and Patents Act 1988 by a statutory instrument made under the European Communities Act."
So unless those rights have been rolled back, it doesn't need to be a particularly clean room to produce a reverse engineered version. Of course, if you were to use the "compatible" version of the software to cheat Skype out of revenue, that might fall foul of the "not used for any other purpose" bit. As I said, IANAL and I've no idea how courts actually interpret these rights in a commercial setting.
@ Mark Berry
I'd highly doubt it, otherwise you could rip every technology off, ever made; for example, I've removed the DRM from my XBOX / PS3 / MAC so I can run the code on a x86 machine.
Also there is a very good change it will infringe on a shit load of patents (compression and encryption of RTP streams for example).
The letter from the lawyers is in the post.
That depends..
>s I said, IANAL and I've no idea how courts actually interpret these rights in a commercial setting.
..on whether it's a Texas lawyer or not :)
"he de-compiled the binary back into source code"
That's not technically possible, nor will it ever be.
Probably he used IDA to disassemble to Assembler code, then hand commented the code/ converted to high level. That's a shedload of work, and if his finished project interoperates with Skype, then it's a very impressive piece of work.
"Also there is a very good change it will infringe on a shit load of patents (compression and encryption of RTP streams for example)."
IANAL but I don't think that would matter in the EU as software isn't covered and as your examples are effectively mathematical algorithms I'm not entirely sure they can be patented either.
No it is *not* impossible
Given a binary executable, you could generate some Source Code which, when compiled, would produce an identical binary.
Sure, that probably wouldn't be the same as the original Source Code -- maybe not even in the same language, even -- as a natural consequence of the many-to-one mapping from source code to binaries. But the important thing is, it would compile to produce an identical binary.
Yes, but M$ still has the cash and lawyers to bury you so deep in lawsuits that even should you mount a defence, you will be broke long before you get the cases dismissed. And they can afford to send threatening legal letters to any hoster that would float your notSkype service, killing your network. And the PR machine to mount a campaign making out your notSkype is really a security risk, a way to introduce trojans and other nasties to regular Skype users, and only used by paedophiles/terrorists/<insert unwanted-types-of-the-week here>. Meanwhile, they have more than enough coders to add a small tweak to the Skype code which will leave your notSkype users unable to connect to proper Skype.
Never underestimate the ability of lots of cash.
Since many compilers convert the source code, say for a for-loop, into machine code in only a few ways, one can often recognize the source idiom from the disassembly. Possibly at a higher level, one could write a program to recognize strings of machine code that correspond to the source code keywords/control structures.
Any optimization, that say removes code out of a loop*, would still leave the loop to be recognized.
* an empty for-loop can be replaced with code to set the loop variable to its final value
> "he de-compiled the binary back into source code"
> That's not technically possible, nor will it ever be.
...you go on to talk about dissassemblers...
Er, what?
These tools/techniques have been around for a long time and are suprisingly effective with some less strippy languages such as java. Of course, getting the original source code back is nigh on impossible (think, breaking an egg and then trying to put it back together) but this doesnt mean you cannot get effective code that works in the same way - modelling the broken pieces of said egg and producing your own model that whilst similar in function and design is not the original...
Skype has had some pretty good protections built into the code from what i hear, to stop exactly this kind of analysis. So well done. And, its about time :)
Re: Mark Berry
"I'd highly doubt it, otherwise you could rip every technology off, ever made"
There's a distinction between inter-operability and cloning. In this case, one side would claim that the reverse engineering permitted inter-operability with Skype's network and the other side would claim that it cloned Skype's client software.
all the kings men
He posted it as a torrent. So if there's demand, no amount of money threatening ISPs will shut down distribution of it. And remember that Skype is a P2P protocol. ISPs are not required to 'host' anything.
On the other hand, I agree that a small protocol change could quickly make this moot for a while. Assuming there's anything in this release even worth defeating.
Yet it does appear that a game of cat and mouse has begun. My guess is that the well known duplicity of Skype's founders will ensure that open source Skype protocol does leak out.
Never assume that legal money entirely trumps the will of skilled, motivated individuals fighting an asymmetric war. Sony may have learned that lesson recently.
I'm trying to figure out if it would be more entertaining for it to be authentic, or a scam to spread malware.
Cleanest room conditions.
"Bushmanov would at the very least have to demonstrate that he worked without a copy of the software to hand"
Doesn't he just need to prove that he didn't have a copy of the original source code nor worked on one in a previous life?
What's the point of reverse engineering if you don't have a copy that you can compare against?
Thumbs down?
Must be a RIAA/MPAA drive-by shooting.
I had the same thought as you.
Certainly "clean room" emulators don't pretend they've never had the console they're emulating, just that they didn't extract the firmware and decompile it in order to reproduce the functionality.
The rules change depending on where one is. I think the rules in the article are for the USA and don't apply to the EU. Anyone know what the EU rules are? Can the article be updated with the EU rules?
If he did all this legally, I hope MS do respond and I hope they get told where to shove their complaint.
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"If he did all this legally, I hope MS do respond and I hope they get told where to shove their complaint."
When the messenger wars were on, and everyone was trying to make a messanger client that worked with the others, MS just changed the protocol each week and forced you to download the new version; cutting off the others (although they then added automatic downloading and executing files which got me off that treadmill very fast!)
However this time there are a few people or forked out for Skype hardware, and I'm not sure if they can be updated as easily.
Exciting times
This could bring Skype back to asterisk, and to libpurple too!
If it's all true of course.
Incoming Skype to SIP please
If this means that someone can hack together a simple Skype to SIP converter (within Asterisk is OK with me), and especially if I can run it on my QNAP, this gets my vote!
Skype to Sip
Never tried any of these but..,
From the reports of people who looked at the files
It just looks like this guy downoaded Skype binaries decrypted by some security research company, run (apparently pirated versions of) IDA and hex-rays decompiler on them and posted the results online without much input from himself.
Looks like his idea of getting 5 mins of fame worked, but this doesn't show any particular skill on his part, except ability to search for bootleg copies of expensive software.
Pigeons, meet Cat.
Popcorn please!
I really hope that the inevitable pidgin plug-in is indeed called 'cat'.
Samba, anyone?
"It's hard to replicate perfectly the behaviour of any software under completely clean-room conditions, and probably even harder to prove that such conditions existed."
If that were the case then I would have expected the developers of Samba to have been beaten in the court case of a few years ago. Andrew Tridgell and his co-workers seem to have avoided all such unpleasantness when they reverse engineered SMB and actually produced a better implementation of the protocol.
Not having seen Bushmanov's work I would not like to say how he did it, but it was possibly not done illegally.
Reverse engineering
As far as I understand reverse engineering it self is not illegal. What''s illegal is re-writing proprietary software to which you've had access to the source code as former/current employee for example and then only if it can be proven that you lifted code.
But if the original code is assembly language then the decompilation will result in you viewing something very close to the original code.
This is why they (Compaq?) needed a clean room implementation when copying the PC BIOS.
perfectly legal
I believe it may be illegal in the USA, but pretty much everywhere else specifically states that it is totally legal and a license agreement can not prevent that (for example the UK). In fact I believe that some (germany?) actually go as far as to state that it is illegal to try to place such restrictions in the license agreements in the first place (obviously not really enforced).
Why bother. Just stick to open and industry standard SIP VoIP protocols. Far easier for hardware manufacturers to implement and supported in many routers for QoS, in homes, ISPs and corporate environments.
Skype is a bloated resource intensive P2P based protocol.
re: Just stick to SIP
That is a great idea if you control all ends of the network that you will use, but when you have 20 or 30 regular contacts that are all on Skype and expect to be able to IM, voice call and video call with you, as well as see when you are online - that is not so easy!
The Microsoft Way
"... but when you have ... regular contacts that are all on... and expect to be able to ..."
I think I've seen that business model before.
Skype Online is Offline
Skype problems seem to be growing. In the UK since 2nd June the Skype online numbers have stopped working ( http://heartbeat.skype.com/2011/06/problems_calling_to_online_num.html )
So small businesses who have bought a phone number via Skype can expect a quiet time.
As usual the the usual meaningless "we are working hard" estimated fix time.
I think it was Phoenix who first rev. engd. IBM BIOS.
They had 2 sets off geeks (as it were) in 2 separate rooms. One lot shouted out (so to speak) what the BIOS did, step by step, and the other lot wrote NEW code to emulate.
If they had been unfortunate to write, by coincidence, the same code, the judge would never have believed that it was innocent.
Who Cares?
Who care? Skype is far from being the only internet phone/video protocol. It isn't even the first company to produce a net-to-phone system (remember Net2Phone?). It just seems to be the most successful commercial venture in that space, whereas its competitors failed.
So why do I care about a reverse-engineered Skype protocol? There are plenty of open-source VOIP protocols I can use if I want one.
Who cares about *.docx?
There are plenty of open document formats too. Nobody needs to use MS propritary protocols.
Unfortunately some people do use proprietary protocols and interacting with them is impossible if you just stick with open protocols.
All he needs to do is release it with a licence that prohibits use where it's illegal, such as the US, if MS object.
They'll probably turn a blind eye to it because as far as I know, to use Skype to call out, you have to give them money, and I doubt if that can be bypassed. If they've just relieved themselves of the need to maintain the Linux version they'll be happy, and can continue with the Windows development with a few crumbs to the Mac crowd.
Could the sudden Skype system / server instabilities
... be caused by their staff running for other jobs knowing most will be made redundant anyway???
I wonder.
If Skype had not just been purchased by MS if some of these comments would change? What if it were still a darling of the startup crowd and Bushamov did this? Would it still not be a big deal?
Hell, no.
Binary and decompiling
In the 1970 we had to do a lot of that from machine code to assembly.
Tedious but not difficult. Why because it was part of the job so you do not fuck around with words like difficult.
The ability to read machine code as your native language is not considered important to day, I suppose only real hakkers are good at it.
The idea that you can hide something bye releasing only the binary is silly, it is all there to be read if you have the time, ability and interest to do it.
Of course, to day, the size of the pie is much much larger than long ago, but the again there is perhaps more money for that to day too.
Anybody around who understand this 2,10 0.7.15 or 3.05 0.2.7
AMD had to do a real clean room implementation for the machine code in the Intel "clones" but they did it in no time and using only one programmer. It is all in the "Inside Intel" book.
All the legal stuff, and how the wind blows to day in each different country, is of course an other question.
Why by hand ?
Hi Lars,
Did you have no dissassembler in the 1970s ?. One of the first 'big' FORTH programs I wrote was a 6809 dissassembler which only took about 8K od source code including ~ 4K of data table. Given that the 6809 had anything up to ~6000 op codes ( it had multi-byte op codes for some addressing modes before anyone asks ) depending on how you looked at it I thought that was quite neat. Mind it ran a tad slowly but served it's purpose.
How soon will Microsoft blow?
Too late....
Peer review
One of the big arguments against relying on proprietary encryption algorithms and software has always been the lack of peer review. Do I trust these people to not have screwed up and left a hole you could drive a bus through?
I've long been of the belief that, no matter how good at something I think I am, that there is always someone out there that is better. I have screwed up in the past and I will do so again. I also believe that the less people that check my work, the less chance there is that someone will say "Hang on a minute..." This is why I believe small, closed teams to be a bad thing.
I guess this is where we will find out just how good (or bad) Skype's security is and whether it has any obvious back doors or weaknesses engineered into it.
PR response
Phoronix quotes a PR representative for Skype:
"This unauthorized use of our application for malicious activities like spamming/phishing infringes on Skype's intellectual property. We are taking all necessary steps to prevent/defeat nefarious attempts to subvert Skype's experience. Skype takes its users' safety and security seriously and we work tirelessly to ensure each individual has the best possible experience."
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WebAuctionPlus - eBay for Minecraft!
A minecraft/bukkit shop plugin for your website! This is a rewrite of the original WebAuction with many new features and improvements. I've made to many improvements to the code to list on one page. Many of my plans require big changes and a lot of new code. As with any new code, bugs are to be expected, so please bare with me and report any bugs you come across.
Note: It is strongly recommended you backup your database before using or updating this plugin. Some of the bug fixes and performance improvements I'm making require big changes to the database. The WebAuctionPlus plugin will convert and update the database automatically the first time it's run.
Performance increase: I noticed a lot of people reporting lag with the original web auction, especially when using a remote database. These problems should all be fixed now. WebAuctionPlus has all new database connection code to do a "pool of connections". New connections are only made if all existing ones are in use. The entire web interface is also being rewritten to greatly improve performance with MUCH fewer queries to the database. Most tasks are now fully multi-threaded, so login lag coming from this plugin is non-existent.
Further improved performance: Starting with 1.0.9, when a player logs in, the code that runs for that player has been moved to a 2 second multi-threaded delay. Permissions are updated, and alerts the player of new sales and items in their mailbox. This should fix the problem some servers were having where that small bit of code running in the main server thread would cause just a small lag spike. Other things, like item depositing and withdraw may still cause a small bit of lag. This and other things will be multi-threaded once I figure out how to do it without causing any issues.
New virtual inventory MailBox has been added with the update of Minecraft 1.3 and WebAuctionPlus 1.1. When a player right clicks on a MailBox sign, it opens up their virtual mailbox inventory and locks their website account to prevent item dups. When they close their mailbox, it updates their inventory and unlocks their website account. NOTE: This feature is new and running single threaded. If you experience lag related to this, I can see what I can do to make it multi-threaded.
Requires: Vault - http://dev.bukkit.org/server-mods/vault/
Requires: Web server with PHP and MySQL
Optional: SignLink - http://dev.bukkit.org/server-mods/signlink/
I can host your website! This plugin does require a web server with php support. It doesn't have a built in web server, and there are currently no solid plans to add this. WebPortal is similar to this plugin, and does have a built in web server, but it doesn't share much common code with this plugin and doesn't have the same features. That said, I'll make you an offer to help you out. Make a donation with the button below and send me a pm and I'll host your website for you on my web server. The server is hosted in a datacenter on the US east coast. It has cpanel, ftp, mysql, all the bells and whistles. I'll even set up the WebAuctionPlus website for you and update it when you'd like. If you have your own domain, you're welcome to use it, or I can give you a subdomain of webauctionplus.com . If you have access to the dns records of your domain, I can help you set up a subdomain to point to my server, like shop.myminecraftserver.com . However you'd like it set up.
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Sales will be logged to the database starting with version 1.1.3, but a website page wont be added for it just yet. The data will be retained in there for the following update which should include the page. Market prices and recent signs should also be working in one of these next updates.
I'm also starting on a json data connection between the website and the plugin which will be used to get the players balance with any vault supported economy, and finally removing those pesky money deposit/withdraw signs.
A few improvements so far
- new ajax listing code (fast!)
- new virtual inventory mailbox
- all new web interface
- all new item deposit/withdraw code
- database connections are handled better
- connection pool limits can be set in config
- task update times are now configured in seconds
- tasks can be disabled by setting the update frequency to -1
- new announcement system
- added "/wa reload" and "/wa save" commands
- accounts can be created or passwords changed from the console
- multi-language support
To do
- sign shops
- server shops (unlimited stock improved)
- bank accounts
- better support for vault economies
- better support for votifier
- custom description for items being sold
- website will obey banned-ips.txt
- wish list / auto sales
- track all wa signs to prevent unauthorized signs
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If you'd like to test drive the plugin before setting it up on your own server, you're welcome to try out my server. You can view this website link without logging in, but you'll have to log onto my server and create a web auction account first to do anything on the website.
- http://mc.poixson.com/webauctionplus/ - my own small server
- http://goldcraftmc.org/market/ - a larger server
- http://galaxycraft.org/webauctionplus/
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- http://play.supermine.se/webauctionplus/
- swedish howto guide: http://supermine.se/threads/supermines-web-auktioner.309/
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If you'd like this plugin translated to another language, feel free to download the en.yml file from the link above, translate it to your own language, and send it to me.
WebAuctionPlus signs can be created by placing a sign with [WebAuction], [WebAuction+], or [wa] on the first line. Case doesn't matter, the plugin will fix it for you.
Note: you cannot use the deposit mailbox sign while in creative mode. this shouldn't ever be needed in the normal operation of the plugin, so as a general protection, it's always denied.
Note: withdraw mailbox signs can now have a quantity of stacks on the last line, or leave it blank for all mail.
- %waTitle - items name
- %waPrice - price each
- %waSeller - sellers name
- %waType - Buy Now or Auction
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- /wa password <apassword> - Changes your Web Auction Plus account password, or creates an account if you don't have one. This command can also be used from console in the format: wa password <playername> <apassword> and short-hand aliases "pass" or "pw" can be used in place of "password". For example, /wa pw mypassword123
- /wa reload - This feature is currently broken and disabled. It will be working again soon.
- /wa update - Forces recent signs to update. Also updates SignLink signs.
- /wa version - Displays the current running version of Web Auction Plus.
Permission nodes
note: these may change at some point
- wa.use.mailbox (use mailbox sign)
- wa.use.deposit.money (use money deposit sign)
- wa.use.withdraw.money (use money withdraw sign)
- wa.announcer.receive (can see auto announcements)
- wa.password.create (can create a new account)
- wa.password.change (can change their password for an existing account)
- wa.canbuy (can buy from web auction)
- wa.cansell (can sell with web auction)
- wa.create.sign.mailbox (create mailbox sign)
- wa.create.sign.deposit (create money deposit sign)
- wa.create.sign.withdraw (create money withdraw sign)
- wa.create.sign.shout (create a new auction shout sign)
- wa.create.sign.recent (create a recent auction sign)
- wa.webadmin (user account is admin on the website)
- wa.remove (remove WA signs)
- wa.reload (reloads the WebAuctionPlus config)
Note: There are major changes being made to the database in Plus. (as of version 1.0.3) When the plugin jar loads for the first time, it will update and convert your database, so be sure to have a backup. As of 1.1, the way enchantments are stored in the database has been changed again to simplify code and further improve stability. When the latest plugin jar is loaded, the database will be updated and the enchantments converted.
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Join us and chat some time on our irc channel. #webauctionplus on esper.net webchat.esper.net
2013-04 State of the plugin
As I've stated in comments, I'm not adding features to 1.1 anymore. I'll continue fixing bugs if any are found, but my focus is on a new version of the plugin. if anyone would like to take over working on the 1.1 version, send me a pm. I'll gladly help you get started. I'll still want to look over code to be sure high standards are met. it must be reliable and well written code, but credit will always be given where it's due.
MarioG1 Oct 21, 2014 at 20:06 UTC - 0 likes
I've updated WebAuction to support UUID's.
You can download it here.
If you want full UUID support you have to use CraftConomy.
Please backup your iConomy and WebAuction Database before installing this. I don't had time to test everything!!! There might be bugs, If you find any please pm me.
For those who don't trust me you can find the source code here to compile it yourself.Last edited Oct 21, 2014 by MarioG1
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DenStiveGud Oct 13, 2014 at 12:13 UTC - 0 likes
Hey, I am really happy with this plugin. I have a server with mods and now I'm about to add mods items. It is easy to put in the codes, but how do I take a picture with a withe background like yours?
MarioG1 Sep 23, 2014 at 19:00 UTC - 0 likes
I hope we will see this plugin on 1.8 on Sponge or whatever will replace bukkit/spigot.
And you are not the only plugin dev, server owner and or minecraft player who is waiting at the moment. Most of us don't agree with the stuff what happened to bukkit. Wolverness DMCA claim was an big mistake but I don't want to talk about this...
I know that you are p** of all this. It will be lots of work to port all this plugins to a new API but I think it's worth it and I just want to say:
You are not alone
Adzdon Aug 29, 2014 at 21:53 UTC - 0 likes
This needs development build, as were getting loads of bugs and errors :/
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MGbeenieboy Aug 25, 2014 at 20:25 UTC - 0 likes
I tested 2 database, one remote and one local. The plugin failed the connection. Using spigot 1611.
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As a short, I can tell you why.
Because you simply know that the market is a sham. Likewise, time and time again, the Fed is intervening in the market when short interest is highest to force a 'free' short squeeze.
This is the problem of unintended consequences when producing a fake market.
Once nobody trusts it, and they don't, you lose the long and the short interest. That's where we are.
….and, here comes the ramp job.
Today will be an 'up day' with relentless ramping. So says Ben, so it shall be done.
Back to back to back to back 'glorious' beats on the economic reports…..right on cue.
What a *$&@ joke this is. ANYTHING to try to prop up the market…ANYTHING!
So the message is: BUY BUY BUY !
This market is still so overvalued and frothy. I doubt the shorts have gone away. Those piled in are just HOPING the Fed and government will save put every long position and eliminate every last rational short.
Continue to lighten up on equities as this market rallies. The positive momentum in this market shifted a few weeks ago. This correction is not over it has just begun. Investors be prudent the game is changing again.
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