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RAD001 Study in Treatment of Relapsed or Refractory Acute Lymphocytic Leukemia
This study is ongoing, but not recruiting participants.
M.D. Anderson Cancer Center
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M.D. Anderson Cancer Center
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First received: August 27, 2009
Last updated: May 6, 2014
Last verified: May 2014
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The goal of Phase I of this clinical research study is to find the highest tolerable dose of RAD001 (everolimus) when given in combination with the standard chemotherapy regimens to patients with ALL.
The goal of Phase II of this study is to learn if the drug combinations can help to control ALL. The safety of these drug combinations will be also studied in both phases.
Acute Lymphocytic Leukemia
Drug: Everolimus (RAD001)
Drug: Cyclophosphamide
Drug: Vincristine
Drug: Doxorubicin
Drug: Dexamethasone
Drug: Mesna
Drug: Methotrexate
Drug: Ara-C (Cytarabine)
Drug: Methylprednisone
Drug: G-CSF
Phase 1
Phase 2
|Study Type:
|Study Design:
|Allocation: Non-Randomized
Endpoint Classification: Safety/Efficacy Study
Intervention Model: Single Group Assignment
Masking: Open Label
Primary Purpose: Treatment
|Official Title:
|Phase I/II Study of Hyper-CVAD Plus RAD001 (Everolimus) for Patients With Relapsed or Refractory Acute Lymphocytic Leukemia (ALL)
Resource links provided by NLM:
MedlinePlus related topics: Chronic Lymphocytic Leukemia Leukemia
Drug Information available for: Dexamethasone Cyclophosphamide Prednisolone Prednisolone acetate Methylprednisolone acetate Methotrexate Methylprednisolone Prednisolone sodium phosphate Cytarabine Prednisolone phosphate Dexamethasone acetate Prednisolone sodium succinate Vincristine sulfate Methylprednisolone sodium succinate Dexamethasone sodium phosphate Methotrexate sodium Mesna Doxorubicin Doxorubicin hydrochloride Sirolimus Filgrastim Lenograstim Granulocyte colony-stimulating factor Everolimus TemsirolimusU.S. FDA Resources
Further study details as provided by M.D. Anderson Cancer Center:
Primary Outcome Measures:
- Maximum tolerated dose [MTD] [ Time Frame: Following each dose cycles (21 days) ] [ Designated as safety issue: Yes ]
- Dose-limiting toxicity [DLT] [ Time Frame: Continously during each dose cycle (21 days) ] [ Designated as safety issue: Yes ]
Secondary Outcome Measures:
- Complete and Overall Response Rate [ Time Frame: Up to 20 cycles of study drugs (21 day cycles) or till disease progression ] [ Designated as safety issue: No ]
|Estimated Enrollment:
|Study Start Date:
|November 2009
|Estimated Primary Completion Date:
|October 2016 (Final data collection date for primary outcome measure)
|Assigned Interventions
Experimental: Everolimus + Hyper-CVAD
First chemotherapy combination is Hyper-CVAD = Cyclophosphamide, Vincristine, Adriamycin (doxorubicin), and Dexamethasone
Drug: Everolimus (RAD001)
Beginning dose of 5 mg tablets every other day by mouth followed by a big glass of water. First dose will occur 1 day before receiving chemotherapy.
Other Name: AfinitorDrug: Cyclophosphamide
300 mg/m^2 intravenous (IV) over 3 hours every 12 hours x 6 doses on Days 1, 2, 3 (total dose 1800 mg/m2).
Other Names:Drug: Vincristine
2 mg IV on Day 4 and Day 11 ± 2 days.Drug: Doxorubicin
50 mg/m^2 IV over 24 hours via central venous catheter on day 4, after last dose of Cyclophosphamide given.
Other Names:Drug: Dexamethasone
40 mg IV or orally daily days 1-4 ± 2 days and days 11-14 ± 2 days.
Other Name: DecadronDrug: Mesna
600 mg/m^2 IV continuous infusion daily for 24 hours days 1-3.
Other Name: MesnexDrug: G-CSF
10 mcg/kg/day (rounded) within 72 ± 48 hours after completion of chemotherapy until neutrophil recovery 1 x 109/L or higher. Pegfilgrastim (given at 6 mg subcutaneous for one dose approximately 24 hours after completion of the chemotherapy) may be substituted for G-CSF.
Other Names:
Experimental: Everolimus + Methotrexate and Ara-C
Second chemotherapy combination is Methotrexate and Ara-C (cytarabine).
Drug: Everolimus (RAD001)
Beginning dose of 5 mg tablets every other day by mouth followed by a big glass of water. First dose will occur 1 day before receiving chemotherapy.
Other Name: AfinitorDrug: Methotrexate
200 mg/m^2 IV over 2 hours followed by 800 mg/m^2 IV over 22 hours day 1.Drug: Ara-C (Cytarabine)
3 gm/m^2 IV over 2 hours every 12 hours for 4 doses on days 2, 3.
Other Names:Drug: Methylprednisone
50 mg IV over 2 hours approximately every 12 hours for 6 doses days 1-3.
Other Names:Drug: G-CSF
10 mcg/kg/day (rounded) within 72 ± 48 hours after completion of chemotherapy until neutrophil recovery 1 x 109/L or higher. Pegfilgrastim (given at 6 mg subcutaneous for one dose approximately 24 hours after completion of the chemotherapy) may be substituted for G-CSF.
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|Ages Eligible for Study:
|10 Years and older
|Genders Eligible for Study:
|Accepts Healthy Volunteers:
Inclusion Criteria:
- Refractory or relapsed acute lymphocytic leukemia (ALL) or lymphoblastic lymphoma (LL). Patients expressing Philadelphia chromosome (Ph+) are eligible if they have failed a prior tyrosine kinase-containing therapy.
- Age >/= 10 years.
- ECOG performance status </= 3.
- Adequate liver function with serum bilirubin </= 1.5 x upper limit of normal (ULN), alanine aminotransferase (ALT) and aspartate aminotransferase (AST) </= 2.5 x ULN, unless proven to be related to disease infiltration.
- Adequate renal function with serum creatinine </= 1.5 x ULN, unless proven to be related to disease infiltration.
- No symptomatic pulmonary disease. Forced expiratory volume in 1 s (FEV1), forced vital capacity (FVC) and diffusion capacity of carbon monoxide (DLCO) >/= 50% of expected, corrected for hemoglobin.
- Fasting serum cholesterol </= 300 mg/dL (or </= 7.75 mmol/L); fasting triglycerides </= 2.5 x ULN. NOTE: In case one or both of these thresholds are exceeded, the patient can only be included after initiation of appropriate lipid lowering medication.
- Signed informed consent.
Exclusion Criteria:
- Systemic chemotherapy within 7 days (with the exception of hydroxyurea and/or dexamethasone) prior to starting therapy and recovered from persistent acute toxicity (> grade 1) from that therapy, unless there is evidence of rapidly progressive disease. Concurrent therapy for central nervous system (CNS) prophylaxis or treatment for CNS relapse is permitted.
- Prior treatment with or known hypersensitivity to an mTOR inhibitor (sirolimus, temsirolimus, everolimus).
- Major surgery within 4 weeks of start of study drug.
- Other malignancies within the past 3 years except for adequately treated carcinoma of the cervix, or basal or squamous cell carcinomas of the skin.
- Severe and/or uncontrolled medical conditions or other conditions that could affect participation in the study: a. Symptomatic congestive heart failure of New York Heart Association Class III or IV. b. Unstable angina pectoris or myocardial infarction within 6 months of start of study drug, serious uncontrolled cardiac arrhythmia. c. Uncontrolled severe infections. d. Liver disease such as cirrhosis, or severe hepatic impairment (Child-Pugh class C).
- continuation of #5: Note: A detailed assessment of Hepatitis B/C medical history and risk factors must be done at screening for all patients. HBV DNA and HCV RNA PCR testing are required at screening for all patients with a positive medical history based on risk factors and/or confirmation of prior HBV/HCV infection.
- Known history of HIV seropositivity.
- Impairment of gastrointestinal function of gastrointestinal disease that may significantly alter the absorption of RAD001 (e.g., ulcerative disease, malabsorption syndrome or small bowel resection).
- Female patients who are pregnant or breast feeding, or adults of reproductive potential who are not using effective birth control methods. Childbearing potential is a sexually mature woman who: 1)has not undergone a hysterectomy or bilateral oophorectomy; 2)has not been naturally postmenopausal for at least 24 consecutive months. Adequate contraception must be used throughout the trial and for eight weeks after the last dose of study drug, by both sexes. (Women of child bearing potential must have a negative urine or serum pregnancy test within 7 days prior to administration of therapy.)
- Male patient whose sexual partner(s) are women of child bearing potential who are not willing to use adequate contraception, during the study and for 8 weeks after the end of treatment.
- Patients should not receive immunization with attenuated live vaccines within one week of study entry or during study period. Close contact with those who have received attenuated live vaccines should be avoided during treatment with everolimus. Examples of live vaccines include intranasal influenza, measles, mumps, rubella, oral polio, BCG, yellow fever, varicella and TY21a typhoid vaccines.
- Patients who have developed pleural effusion while on dasatinib therapy.
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Please refer to this study by its ClinicalTrials.gov identifier: NCT00968253
Please refer to this study by its ClinicalTrials.gov identifier: NCT00968253
|United States, Texas
|UT MD Anderson Cancer Center
|Houston, Texas, United States, 77030
Sponsors and Collaborators
M.D. Anderson Cancer Center
|Study Chair:
|Marina Konopleva, MD, PHD
|UT MD Anderson Cancer Center
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No publications provided
Keywords provided by M.D. Anderson Cancer Center:
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ClinicalTrials.gov processed this record on November 20, 2014
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|Responsible Party:
|M.D. Anderson Cancer Center
|ClinicalTrials.gov Identifier:
|NCT00968253 History of Changes
|Other Study ID Numbers:
|Study First Received:
|August 27, 2009
|Last Updated:
|May 6, 2014
|Health Authority:
|United States: Institutional Review Board
Keywords provided by M.D. Anderson Cancer Center:
Acute Lymphocytic Leukemia
Vincristine Sulfate
Additional relevant MeSH terms:
Leukemia, Lymphoid
Precursor Cell Lymphoblastic Leukemia-Lymphoma
Immune System Diseases
Immunoproliferative Disorders
Lymphatic Diseases
Lymphoproliferative Disorders
Neoplasms by Histologic Type
Dexamethasone 21-phosphate
Dexamethasone acetate
Liposomal doxorubicin
Abortifacient Agents
Abortifacient Agents, Nonsteroidal
Adjuvants, Immunologic
Alkylating Agents
Anti-Bacterial Agents
Anti-Infective Agents
Anti-Inflammatory Agents
Antibiotics, Antineoplastic
ClinicalTrials.gov processed this record on November 20, 2014


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Oct 16, 2011So despite all the changes behind the show, The Walking Dead still manages to be one of the most tense and thrilling shows out there with season 2 as of now. It also helps that this episode is following the comics a lot more than before, although that doesn't matter to me personally, as long as they tell a good story, which they sure as hell did with this episode.
Oct 23, 2011Definitely a great TV show. On one hand, the acting is favorable, costumes are awesome, the atmosphere is intense, and the situations are unpredictable. The second season (well at least the first 2 episodes) is certainly more action-zombie-packed than the first but without sacrificing other aspects off it. Furthermore, the way the story unfolds is well written even though you would not expect that from a zombie-based adventures. To sum up, a show worth watching.… Expand
Mar 16, 2012People love to nit-pick and moan and as soon as you see that in a review, stop reading. You're never going to get a balanced review when people rip into it like that - so he's my attempt of a balance review. Season 1 was yes, fantastic, but in 6 episodes, there's not much time to do wrong. For season 2, over double that have been made and therefore the action needs to be spread out more. This show is all about human emotion and tragedy, not blowing zombie brains out every 5 minutes. Being the first zombie TV series, the likes of gamers will have been immediately attracted to this show and of course human emotion doesn't exist these types of games, it's all about the action. So as soon as these fans started watching season 2, I believe they were shocked to see people talking about their feelings more than seeing heads being blown off. But in reality, this technique has actually been really effective. For other fans of the show, too much zombie killing and confrontation would get boring way too quickly, and suddenly the frequent appearance of the zombies, would make them less frightening, as the more we see and learn about the unknown, the less effect it has on us. However by having the zombies appear in small groups, only here and there during the season has built the tension up brilliantly, especially up to towards the end of the first half of the season. When they all suddenly appear, it makes the action much more intense, wild and unpredictable compared to how it would be if the zombies were the main focus of the show. In the second half of season 2 this use of bringing in the zombies at climatic points in virtually each episode has solidified this show as the best since Lost for me as the intensity continues to rise, whilst still holding a balance with human emotion - and the season finale looks to be possibly the best episode yet. Yes, at times during the first 5 episodes perhaps there was a little bit too much talk and I'll admit I was a little bored from time to time, but like I said, the lack of major events was a brilliant ploy leading us into the final episode of 2011. And again, I reiterate that most of the bad reviews will be coming from action-hungry gamers who instead got a taste of the undesirable, yet extremely relevant physiological effects of this type of scenario. There are also fans of the comics obviously watching this series, however they too need to understand one point - what works in a comic won't work in a TV series. Some things just aren't workable and that has to be accepted! So all in all I'd say that this season of TWD has turned out to be even better than the first, it's just a shame that yes, the first half was a little too uneventful but an even bigger shame that people can't accept the relevance of these episodes and move on.… Expand
Nov 28, 2011Season 2, isnt quite as good as seaon 1, and out of the 7 episodes so far, episode 4 is the only one i dont like because its too slow. Theres alot more character development this time around, but after last nights mid season finale, this show looks to be back to its strong storytelling.
Oct 19, 2011This show is awesome! There are thrills, tense moments and gore. I believe it is one of the top 5 shows on TV today. If you like Zombies, Gore or just like watching a group of survivors implode check this show out!
Oct 19, 2011I love zombies and from Gorge Romero, has anyone managed to captivate the audience so with this series was so easy formula.
No doubt, stress, and time history helps a lot to this series, be sure to miss it.
Nov 28, 2011Last night was the mid-season finale and the episodes wont be back until February, so I decided to finally review this season of my favorite TV show, a lot of complaints have been made that there hasn't been a lot going on, and I have to admit it's not as action packed as the first season was, granted it's had it's moments of action and Zombie slaying goodness, but for most of this season it's been more about the characters and how they are all coping with the new world, the things they encountered the first season, and the new problem that they now have, and you'll find no complaints from me, I found myself enjoying the characters more than ever, some have also said there's no tension and while I agree it's not as intense as the first season, but it's a new kind of intense, where your not only worrying about a possible attack from the "Walkers", but the actual members of the group snapping and killing each other, in closing it's not as good as the first season was but it's still awesome, and I will update my review if I feel it necessary after the official season finale in a couple of months.… Expand
Nov 15, 2011excellent plot and acting. It's darkest in the beginning and then it become less gorish and more dramatic with interesting plot lines. I love it very much.
Oct 16, 2011Great show! Full of suspense and drastic situations. The choices made always have consequences. This season is a big difference from the first. This one is full of action and scares.
Nov 7, 2011I loved the first season and i already love the second. This show has to be up there in the list of best shows of all time. I have never been so captivated nor terrified by a show ever before. It just doesn't even seem possible that this is a show. It's like a movie and theres a sequel a week and they just keep getting better and better. Great season so far for an amazing show.
Oct 22, 2012Anyone marking this down because it's slow is missing the point and in danger of sounding like an idiot. There are enough fast paced zombie DVDs to fill several skips. Whilst it may be that budgets were tight this season so the action was pretty much limited to one location, it actually serves the story extremely well. There's time to really let the characters soak in, their fear, paranoia, and the dehumanising effect of their situation. Some of the acting is not brilliant (but certainly not bad), but the writing really lifts it. A good example of a series exploiting the benefits of telling a story on TV - taking time!… Expand
Feb 3, 2012With top notch performances from Andrew Lincoln, Jon Bernthal, Laurie Holden, Sarah Wayne Callies and Norman Reedus, what's not to love about The Walking Dead? Due to a great ensemble cast and some of the best writers and directors in the game (most of them are responsible for writing and directing for some of the best shows on television, including: Breaking Bad, The Sopranos, The Wire, The Shield, Rescue Me, and Sons of Anarchy) The Walking Dead has became a mega-hit and due to a large fan base (Although some of you don't appreciate the Walking Dead's brilliance as much as others) a rating's juggernaut.… Expand
Oct 18, 2011Robert Kirkman's black-and-white "zombie apocalypse" graphic novel returns for a second televised season on AMC (which focuses mainly on films and only shows four other original series). That's right--THE WALKING DEAD is back, bloody, and better than ever.
Season 2 began with a sixty-six-minute premiere called "What Lies Ahead" (just as the first season did with "Days Gone Bye", the only episode so far to share its name with one of the installments in the graphic novel saga). The gist is generally the same as it was in season one: Deputy Rick Grime continues his ambitious journey of survival with his family and few surviving friends. Since he has finally reached Atlanta (his original destination), he must continue on his carnage-filled quest.
The only thing that's still up in the air with THE WALKING DEAD is that last statement. In other words, we are wondering, even after 6+ hours total of watching, when Rick Grimes is ever going to end his journey and how long it will take him to find a safe haven that's NOT inhabited with zombies (or, as the show refers to them, "walkers"). Or will he die on the way? Still, it's "gory with story" (the only good type of "gory"), entertaining, and a rarely superficial saga that leaves us hanging for a whole week or so--that week being the time in which a new episode is not airing. Suspenseful.… Expand
Oct 29, 2011I don't know how they did it, but they took this already amazing show and made it ten times as good for the second series. Better than most on television today, including Breaking Bad (but that's just my opinion).
Oct 17, 2011Even better than last season, Season 2 opened with a bang. Following the disappointing finale of season 1 (the first 5 episodes were amazing) I was skeptical of where the show was headed- I could not have been happier with where it went. Amazing dialogue, incredible acting, "Jump in your seat" moments - the Season 2 premiere had it all. Here's hoping the remaining 12 episodes are just as good.
Dec 16, 2011This has been one of the most breath taking series i have watched recently. You experience the emotions of frustration, anger, happiness, sadness etc. and you do experience an emotion for each character. It really does take you for a ride, and from what i've been hearing season 2 from other opinions on here, has been long stretched out and really not heading anywhere. From a personal opinion it was necessary to draw the season out the way it did, i'm not going to give details as to why, as minor details could lead to serious spoilers. Just watch the whole series and you'll see what I mean ;).… Collapse
Oct 25, 2011Liked the first season. Now i'm excited to see what they can do with a bigger budget. I enjoyed the first couple episodes. There is more tension in this season than the previous. I'm really loving this series keep it up AMC. 9/10
Feb 14, 2012The walking living is just as terrifying as the walking dead. I keep watching this episode over and over again only if just for the last fifteen minutes. Bang, bang, your dead. Wasn't sure why Glenn didn't prepare to fire. He seemed like he was in shock, even tho he'd been shooting and hacking his way thru Season 1. Love this show!
Oct 28, 2011I really enjoy this the first movie I ever saw about the dead coming back to life was Pet cemetery and then Night of the Living Dead staring bad ass Tony Todd and now there is a 3rd season of The Walking Dead I enjoy it great acting and entertainment not for kids lol .
Oct 18, 2011Action, Drama, Romance, Betrayal, and the feeling that you want more and more episodes is the thing that a good show needs. This zombie series has all of it. I personal watch it for the action and the real life problems that has happened and will happen in our life. Very good story, although I can think of a couple of endings that might happen in the future. In all its a great series, great story, and if your a zombie fan I recommend you see this show. Peace out yall. Stop haten and stop trollen… Expand
Oct 24, 2011The second season starts off to a great start worthy of the show's amazing first season. The show doesn't feel dumbed down like many zombie works can and once again the acting is great. Emotion and angst are common but are shown fairly realistic and effective.
Jul 18, 2012I think this season has been unfairly criticized. The first half was perhaps a little slow at times and overall the season could have been done in 10 episodes as opposed to 13, but the last 4 episodes were on par with the series premier (which is one of the best series premiers I have ever seen) and even the slower/less eventful episodes were well done in their own right even if they didn't offer many significant plot developments. The cinematography for the series is always top notch and the farm setting really went well with the zombie theme giving the season a Romero/Night of the Living Dead feel. I think the actors all do fantastic jobs as well. Andrew Lincoln is one of the most versatile actors today, and Jon Bernthal's portrayal of Shane's progression throughout this season was amazing to watch.… Expand
Oct 25, 2011This review contains spoilers, click expand to view. Through the 2nd episode the season has been great. 1st episode was definitely better than the 2nd, which was a setup. T-Dog better not die. Writing is very good.… Expand
Feb 23, 2012This review contains spoilers, click expand to view. Season 2 can be really stale and repetitive at times. It really hurt to wait 1 year for season 2 and have it end up being so boring and repetitive. Nothing that could have an effect on future seasons is going to carry on from this season except the fact that you realize that Shane is getting crazier ever since the moment he killed Otism hopefully the 2nd half of the season is a better improvement and I will adjust my review accordingly… Expand
Nov 28, 2011After seeing the first half of the season, I am quite satisfied. I am a major zombie fanatic and as such this show was already right up my alley and it hasn't disappointed me yet. The last minute epic reveal in the halfway finale concluded a major story arch (my god was it epic) and I'm excited for the direction this show is headed in going forward. I was tempted to give it a ten but realistically I know it isn't perfect, which is what a 10 would imply. I can't wait for it to restart up in february, its gonna be a long winter without the walking dead… Expand
Jul 19, 2012I delayed watching the second season due to so many negative comments from friends and also other reviewers on the web. I realize now what a mistake it's been. What are people on? The second season was great. I think they really did a good job portraying what the human mind could have gone through in a zombified world while keeping the action flowing.
watch and judge for yourself, i'm sure you wont be disappointed (unless you jump on the hate bandwagon)… Expand
Nov 8, 2011Is anyone else getting bored this season? Wow, I was looking forward to this season so much and now I'm already bored. Seemed like episodes during the first season were more "meaty" and now in the second season they drag on. Four episodes in and we're STILL looking for a lost girl. This should have been resolved by the end of the third episode.
Nov 20, 2011This show is fine. Though they need more action and suspense, we can definitely see it building up. The character develop is fine, we need more zombie action, more gore, more blood. Who the **** cares about some little idiot child getting lost. We need more death!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Feb 7, 2012definitely a great season, the only thing that they really missed out on on this season was it had too little action, I guess they were focused on making the characters more developed which they pulled off flawlessly.
Nov 28, 2011We can say that these 6 episodes are really successful. The special effects are very well made, the actors play very well and the script keeps the viewer in suspense throughout the season. Note the presence of the actress Sarah Wayne Callies who plays Dr. Sara Tancredi on Prison Break. Hopefully the chain AMC will renew this series for the following year. The appointment of the series to the next Golden Globe Awards but mostly the result obtained at the ceremony will probably be determined on its back in a second season.… Expand
Nov 17, 2011The Walking Dead is a fresh air, after 5 years of boring zombie movies.
Their undead are hungry for the warmth of life. And the living, hungry to take other lives.
And the best? no undead riding a horse or trying to talk! Thank you Kirkman!
Oct 1, 2013The Walking Dead Season 2 beings exactly after the ending of Season 1 as the survivors are trying to find their way to a safe haven from the Zombies. The storyline takes them to a farm where they eventually meet new evils and dangers among new allies. The second season is more emotional than the first and is possibly the best character development out of all the seasons as far as Season 3 (this review is made afterwards). Majority of the characters who had little to no interaction from the first season has now a bigger part or role in this season which in the end brings them forth a incredible climax at the end.… Expand
Nov 17, 2011While the second season has yet to step out of the shadow of its first-season older brother, The Walking Dead still maintains the necessary devices of a good show. The first season, a meager six episodes long, often relied on action and big-budget stunts to keep the plot moving. If anything, season 2 has matured, developing the characters instead of relying on the flashy topes and cliches of zombie films. The original graphic novel by Robert Kirkman focuses more on the characters' survival and less on daring deeds or overly-powerful undead antagonists. Season two takes a step in this direction, something sure to please any long-time Walking Dead fan. That having been said, as the episode count rises, the plot relies too heavily on past events. A prime example of this is the ongoing search for Sophia, who disappeared in the season premier. That having been said and assuming the coming episodes continue to advance the plot, The Walking Dead should be here to stay.… Expand
Nov 21, 2011I think this show is way better than the 1st season. It shows more about everyones past and just doesnt stay stuck to Rick. And the zombie killing is better too. Overall i think the show is better.
Nov 21, 2011I hope they keep on going on with more seasons. This new season is everything you can ask for. Sex, lust, drama, and of course zombie killing. Perfect show :D
Nov 23, 2011This is a great show, something everyone noticed in the first season. Everyone seems to be complaining about Season 2 because its slower, and the storyline isn't advancing, and there isn't as much zombie killing etc. For starters it's a longer season, therefore they are using the time for character development (something essential if the show is meant to last, and I say it has a very good chance). It's like letting food settle before dessert, relax people, the zombie killing gory action we all love will soon be back (with characters we'll feel even stronger about).… Expand
Nov 28, 2011This season is HORRIBLE. -All the drama about the kid being shot, all of the sudden he is fine and standing
-They keep looking for the girl (well, sometimes) and nobody seems worried about her
-What is up with "don't make any noise to avoid walkers", and they go target practice
-Everybody is horny, except the two old men
-It seems they rented a farm and plan to spend there the whole season
-What is up with all the stupid drama?
Please join the unhappy viewers at:
http://www.facebook.com/TheWalkingDeadSeasonTwoIsBAD… Expand
Dec 3, 2011Brilliant!!!! Finally a zombie apocalyptic show that's not cheesy and done very well. great character development in the second season. Im glad they slowed the zombie down and developed the stories and characters better, just as good as first season just different.
Mar 24, 2012This show moved very slowly in the first half and even thought this show has a few inconsistencies that are picked at, which usually happens with all the popular shows. Every show has them. Yes, even Breaking Bad but overall this series is entertaining and keeps people coming back and talking about it.
Dec 14, 2011The second season of the walking dead defines what a TV show should be. It has a mix of comedy, and drama that everyone loves, not to mention the zombies. The acting is incredible, and the storyline is amazing, bottom line, best TV show ever
Dec 15, 2011The midseason 2 finale was one of the greatest moments in TV history. I was skeptical about this series at first, but the storyline and character development are gripping. A must see.
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The season itself is very isolated and mostly takes place in one location. Zombie attacks, deaths, and decapitations for the most part are toned down and the season is slower paced than the first. However, what it lacks in action is more than made up in certain episodes, mostly the last couple.
One thing in particular this season does so well is character development. Action is lacking and a lot of the tension comes from he characters and their motivation. We see characters grow and change and how their certain situation is taking away their humanity. Certain characters become likable and earn a soft spot in our hearts.
Overall season 2 is great. The sheer amount of character development more than makes up for the over longing story arches and minimal zombie attacks. However, key episodes particularly the last few are intense and filled with action and gore. I give it 4.5/5… Expand
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Oct 27, 2012The second season was great too! I might not have given it a 10 if I had wrote this before the mid-season finale but from that point on to the season finale it let loose with the fury of a bull in a red room. The season finale was mostly awesome with the exception of Lori getting mad at Rick and pulling away when he told her he killed Shane. She practically told him too a few episodes back. That final shot of the prison was spine chilling! Hopefully Season 3 lives up to the hype.… Expand
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Mar 26, 2013um pouco melhor que a primeira temporada, não que a primeira fosse ruim, mas o que faz com que eu aumente a nota da temporada dois o numero de episódios que me fizeram querer mais de TWD.
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Pizza toppings - over or under the cheese?
- ZenSojourner Sep 2, 2010 09:39 PM
My son has developed the habit of putting all the toppings under the cheese. To me, it tastes like pizza mush, I can't tell what I'm eating.
Obviously my preference is to put toppings on TOP of the cheese.
Does it make any difference to any of you, and if so, why?
BTW, he says the reason he started doing this is because it keeps the toppings from flying off the pizza when he tries to slide it off the paddle and into the oven. I should have given him my superpeel I guess.
I'm of the cheese on top school, but then I grew up in STL (common practice there) so it just seems right. I think it also affects (magnifies) the flavor and texture of the cheese as opposed to the other things.
Yes, it makes a difference. Pizza is a layered preparation; it is not goulash. Sauce, if used, is the first layer. It helps to maintain a moist tender texture for the pizza dough. Cheese, if used, is the next layer. It separates the sauces from the other toppings so that each bite of the finished product tantalizes the taste buds. Putting toppings onto the pizza first creates a mushy goulash covered dough that is unappetizing and unpleasant to eat.
Toppings, as long as they go on top of the cheese, should represent a compliment to and with the cheese. A careless choice when mating toppings/cheese can ruin an otherwise well prepared pizza.
re: Harters
Yeah . . . not to offend your sensibilities . . . but I hope my pizza is unrecognizable to an Italian!
Italian pizza is undoubtedly the original, but it's American style pizza I'm talking about.
Mozzarella cheese. Pepperoni. Bell peppers. Onions. Lots and lots and lots of onions. No anchovies or mushrooms though.
Sorry. I'm plebian that way.
re: ZenSojourner
"but it's American style pizza I'm talking about."
You ask a question about toppings over, under or round the cheese. Surely the question is not nationality specific.
But just to help out any pedants, isn't the answer here in the original question. A *topping* is a topping not an "undering"
re: Harters
They are topping the dough either way.
re: Harters
Second tommy: the viewpoints turn on whether cheese is itself a topping or if it is what you put toppings on. I call cheese a topping.
re: Bada Bing
"I call cheese a topping"
I suspect you'll be in a minority. :-)
re: Harters
The definition of true pizza does not necessarily include cheese.
re: ospreycove
"The definition of true pizza does not necessarily include cheese."
I'm not necessarily doubting you, but I have yet to see or find a "definition of true pizza" ...
For whatever it's worth, wikipedia seems to suggest that cheese is in fact an ingredient in pizza. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pizza
re: ipsedixit
Well, the wikipedia link does say "typically" in regards to cheese, and then lists the pizza marinara (no cheese) under the three offical variants of pizza napoletana. So ospreycove's post is correct, it does not 'necessarily' include cheese.
In the NYC area I see pizzas without either cheese or sauce all of the time.
re: ipsedixit
Wikipedia, is whatever anyone wants to post and certainly is NOT an authority.
As a native of New Haven, Mozzarella was/is an option on Apizza (Sally's, Pepe's etc.) Grated Romano would be the cheese of choice.
I have had hundreds of pies over the years that had no cheese, just dough, sauce and veg or meat toppings. Or Seafood pies made with dough, oil/garlic and seafood. I certainly wouldn't want cheese with shrimp or clams or lobster.
Just because the vast majority of pizza sold in the USA has cheese, doesn't make cheese a requirement of Pizza.
There are segments of the population who look for pizza made without cheese, my oldest daughter is lactose intolerant. Vegans don't usually eat dairy.
Years ago, I was taken to a kosher pizza restaurant that was meat, not dairy. NO cheese on their pies either.
re: bagelman01
Nevertheless. It's the "vast majority" type of pizza that I'm discussing here.
MY pizza certainly does require cheese. Mozzarella cheese in fact. A little provolone wouldn't be out of the question either. But cheese, nevertheless.
re: bagelman01
Hey Bagelman01........I am a native of Hamden and fondly remember Pepe's as well as another place, the name of which escapes me at the moment...I think it began with a "C" and was around Wooster St.. Cappy's??? It's been 50 + years since I've eaten it tho. There were a couple of other places, too; one on Dixwell near the Hamden line and the other in Hamden.
re: mucho gordo
The one on Dixwell at the New Haven Hamden line sounds like Venice Bakery(Bread)/Pizza/Italian Restaurant
re: bagelman01
I'm racking my brain to remember the name; it took me a while to remember Cappy's. It wasn't a bakery, though. We'd go there for pizza and beer. For some reason the name Farrell's sticks out in my mind. Does that ring a bell? Don't forget, I'm talking about back in the late '50's.
re: mucho gordo
Farrells was a bar that did have Pizza.
Venice was a pizza restaurant next door to a bakery owned by the same people with the same name. It was 2 blocks south of Arch Street.
re: bagelman01
How the hell did I remember that name after all those years????????? I guess I don't have 'mad cow' disease after all.
re: ipsedixit
One of my favs in Puglia is fresh tomato with anchovies, oil herbs........no cheese
re: Harters
A minority in the USA, perhaps. But I've seen pizzas without sauce and also pizzas without cheese (though I admit I don't think I've had a pizza with neither sauce nor cheese, unless we count some delicious things I had in Wiesbaden Germany, a few times which were basically pizza crust topped only with a rub of garlic and then salt and olive oil and herbs).
re: Bada Bing
Ah - but that's not pizza - that's bread with tomato sauce (or bread with cheese).
My local pizza chain serves one with olive oil & garlic but without cheese or sauce. They call it "garlic bread". Pizza, it ain't.
re: Harters
I totally agree. Again, I'm talking about good old, peon-style, plebian, pizza as it is known and loved by the masses here in the USA. Where sauce is only left off for the sake of allergies, and a cheeseless pizza would be looked at with fear and disgust. LOL!
re: Harters
Semantics. And wrong.
re: Harters
As you can see if you look at the menu from Frank Pepe's (established 1925 in New Haven, CT) Mozzarealla is a topping. The original tomato pie did not have any and it still costs extra.
re: bagelman01
I would guess that when pizza first started to get popular here it was probably more like it's European forebears.
So not having cheese included back then wouldn't have been so surprising.
Now, however, most people would define Pizza as a crust varying from thin to deep-dish style, with tomato sauce and cheese and then any of several toppings, most common being sausage, pepperoni, hamburger, onion, bell pepper, banana pepper, anchovies, and mushrooms (not limited to those but those are the most common).
Most often round, occassionally square. Rounds usually cut into wedges, but sometimes square. Sometimes using corn meal, sometimes flour, rarely (in my experience) coarse salt as a, I don't know, a "loosening agent"? LOL!
Pizza when I was a kid was still somewhat "exotic" (I grew up in the era of chinese food defined as Chun King Chow Mein and Polynesian-themed restaurants that served food identifiable as no particular nationality but nominally "asian"). It was actually not quite the same as it is now, and there was probably a lot more regional variation (and more distinct regional variation) than there is now.
In my area (midwest, SW Ohio), crusts were thinner than they are now. There was no "deep dish" pizza. It was nearly always round. Crusts were always thrown. It was almost always cut in squares. I was in college before we started seeing thicker (but not thick) crusts and pizza cut in wedges - at least where I lived. In the pizza place where I worked (when in college), it was in transition - the default was squares but customers could request wedges. By the time I quit that had reversed, and more people expected pizza cut in wedges than in squares.
Although there's been a lot of homogenization, there are still strong regional preferences. A locally family owned pizza chain (dozens of restaurants scattered across the area) was bought by a chain. They had been very successful with their original thin, yeast-less salted crust cut in squares pizza.
The national chain changed the recipe to be the more "typical" pizza, more like Pizza Hut and Domino's and all the other chains (thicker yeast crust, cornmeal, etc).
They lost customers. Eventually the original family bought all the restaurants back and still own and run them today, using the original recipe, gradually building the business back up.
I guess my point is that pizza is a wonderful thing. The fact that "American style" pizza is not much like "Italian style" really doesn't matter to me. At this point, they are two different things, regardless of their common roots.
I don't see one as inherently "better" than the other. That's like deciding which is better, apples or oranges. They're both good. They're just different. And preferring one over the other is entirely a matter of taste, in the physical sense and having nothing to do with notions of propriety or aesthetics divorced from the physical sensation.
So arguing about whether or not cheese is a topping, or whether a pizza is still a pizza if it has neither sauce nor cheese, is an exercise in futility.
For the purposes of the original question, a piece of flat bread with no sauce and no cheese is NOT pizza. I didn't ask about European-style pizza. I asked about what the vast majority of people in this country consider to be pizza, and that means crust, sauce, cheese, and assorted other toppings.
Also, does no one realize how silly it is to argue about whether or not "toppings" should go under or on top of the cheese on an item that HAS NO CHEESE?
re: ZenSojourner
re: ZenSojourner
Zen.....ah, but in Italy the questions posed here would keep the argument going for weeks, yes weeks, at the local coffee bar. Tradition is paramount to each house, street, town; and of course, "Ours is the best", is the standard answer. If one talks to a Italian about food and you ask "Where is the best (whatever) available"?; invariably, the answer is "At my Mother's" I have used this question over and over and almost always get the same answer. BTY, this applies to married men as well, they always give the honor to their Mother over their spouse.
re: ospreycove
Of course, not limited to Italy.
The brother in law is from Mallorca and he will often see a local dish being cooked on TV and will say it's not authentic. What he means is that it's not how his mother would have cooked it.
Now my mother was a lousy cook and you could definitely say that whatever she cooked wouldnt be authentic - more a wave in the vague direction of authenticity.
re: bagelman01
it is very hard for people outside CT to understand NH apizza in a similar manner to people outside of TX/KC/NC not understanding "Q", people outside of NOLA not understanding beignets and people outside the left coast not understanding, well understanding Cali-cuisine. Just a fact and a great reason to eat local when traveling to learn.
jfood is a traditionalist with pizza, and cheese and sauce is a staple. the toppings go on top of the mozzy (if that is part of the toppings) and include traditional pep, sausage, meatball, bacon, plus some veggies icluding mushrooms, onions, peppers. What is does NOT include, whether on top or hidden by the mozzy is pineapple, thai stuff, mexican stuff, name-your country stuff. There is NO Thai Pizza, NO Mexican Pizza, NO Asian Pizza, NO South American pizza, NO African Pizza, NO Caribbean Pizza, all of those are flatbreads. Jfood apologizes if he missed a region, but you understand the point.
re: jfood
The finest pizza I have ever eaten was in a non-touristy place in Bardolino, on Lake Garda. Mushroom was the only topping - with a small handful of rocket placed on top and slightly wilted in the heat.
The short pizza menu only had toppings that were rooted in Italy - and this makes for my "gold standard" of pizza toppings. If I can't imagine it on the menu of that restaurant, then I don't want to eat it. Chicken tikka pizza is an abomination as, like jfood finds, is pineapple.
re: Harters
Mushroom is my favorite topping, although I can only get on half the pie due to DHs deep rooted beliefs on pizza toppings (see below). Yours sounds so delicious, wish I could taste it.
I myself can't tolerate meat toppings, especially the greasy ones everyone seems to love, just reminds me of chain pizza too much. And pineapple? ham? etc. Long ago, I heard rumors that's how they do it in California/Hawaii, like a rumor or a joke, is it really everywhere now?? The other thing I've heard about is salad pizza, people tell me "I know it sounds gross but it's really good". Never seen it in real life though. But maybe it's like your small handful of rocket, then you don't need a side dish!
re: coll
During my time in Japan there was a downtown Shakey's Pizza (Remember that chain, who tried to combine arm-banded piano players along the old-time saloon theme, to boost the sales of fresh hot pizza?).
It felt somewhat quirky and weird to be in there, but the mid 80's was a time for lots of American emulation, including the arm-banded piano playing pizza pushers.
Their fait accompli, their proudest and finest pizza, was topped with squid cut to calamari rings, with thin chunks of ham, lots of free kernels of canned corn, and liberal layers of chunk pineapple. Not at all greasy, but God I wished for something like arugula, or better yet some simple sliced 'shrooms. A few years later, it had become a plaintive wail of "My kingdom for a slice of pepperoni!", but that's another story. Such aged and air-dried sausages were at that time an impossbility in Japan.
re: FoodFuser
did the Japan version also have the silent Keystone Kops and Buster Keaton movies running? I never understood what compelled them to do that anachronistic mess of media and costume.
re: hill food
They didn't do the Keystone Cops; instead they plugged into the early wave of MTV energy... Michael Jackson's "Thriller" was what I remember.
re: FoodFuser
that would be more Japanese I s'pose (although really it should have been Bowie's 'Ashes to Ashes'). in the midwest 70's it was oddball silent B+W film.
re: FoodFuser
The calamari part sounds good to me.
re: FoodFuser
Shakey's "Mojos" (a type of fried potato round) were outta sight. Their pizza was great by Papa John's standards, but by everbody else's (including Totino's), only so-so.
re: Harters
I asked a question about toppings over or under the cheese on an AMERICAN STYLE pizza.
Things may very well differ for a different style of pizza.
re: ZenSojourner
Oh goodness. You don't like stuff under your cheese. We get it.
re: ZenSojourner
We get it. Trust me.
re: ZenSojourner
Fair enough. :)
I usually put my toppings under the cheese - for the same reason. Of course, my toppings and cheese are fairly minimal - to me, the pizza is all about the crust!
I seldom use sauce - just a light brushing of good olive oil, then toppings (currently, fresh herbs and sliced garden tomatoes, allowed to drain for a bit first) then the cheese. I use enough cheese so as to completely cover the toppings - just enough to keep everything together.
I'm mainly a toppings over the cheese person, but often I'll add a fne layer of cheese over certain toppings, both to keep them in place coming off the peel and also to accomplish whatever flavoring effect I'm after. Also, of course, when cooking Naples-style with fresh mozzarella, it's really more like toppings and cheese side by side in a patchy network (there is not cheese everywhere, that is).
re: Bada Bing
I'm with Bada Bing on this one. Cheese on the sauce, toppings on the cheese and the fine layer over the top (you can still see all the toppings) just to hold on the toppings. Of course, I like Salami, Pepperoni, Canadian Bacon, Mushrooms & Olives on my pizza. So that's a lot of stuff.
re: lynnlato
re: lynnlato
'cuz they're on "top" of the crust?
Which is on "top" of my plate!
re: Krislady
re: Sooeygun
Yeah- spinach is one that should go on the bottom. You don't want that to get dried out.
"Does it make any difference to any of you, and if so, why?"
It makes a difference to me only if a person is making a Chicago-style deep dish pizza.
Otherwise, it's live and let live as far as whether cheese is above or below the ingredients.
re: ipsedixit
In Puglia, there is an interesting method of; fresh mozzarella first on a very well rolled out crust(thin). then sauce, then condimento, if any. The moisture in the fresh bufala evaporates quickly and floats to the top of the thin layer of sauce.
No pizza in Italy would have so much in the way of cheese, sauce or "toppings" to make it ever approach "goulash". It is best described as flavored bread.
Sauce, mozzarella cheese, toppings, then basil and parmesan after the pizza is finished.
There is no other way for NY-style pizza.
It also helps to preserve the individuality of the ingredients, instead of smothering them in cheese.
Ugh, yes, this is one of my peeves, and why I won't order pizza in Chicago. Toppings are meant to be seen. They go on top of the cheese. The cheese will melt and the toppings will get crispy.
I'm DEFINITELY a "toppings on top" person. Hiding them underneath the cheese would 1) just "steam" the toppings rather than cook/crisp them; & 2) I believe that food should look good as well as taste good, & a lumpy mass of cheese over toppings isn't nearly as attractive as a nice arrangement of toppings over cheese.
Oh, & in all the time I've enjoyed utilizing a large pizza stone & a large pizza paddle, I've yet to have a problem with any toppings flying off the paddle during transfer. And I love LOTS of toppings! Maybe it's your son's transfer technique that's the problem rather than where he puts the toppings. Maybe a little flour or cornmeal on the paddle?
re: Breezychow
Yeah, we've tried the flour/cornmeal thing. I can't do it either. Practice may make perfect, but when you're cooking single pizzas you're not likely to get that much practice.
My suggestion is to make the pizza on foil and slide the paddle under the foil. I'm going to get him to try that next. Parchment paper is just too expensive to use this way on a regular basis.
re: ZenSojourner
Try this. http://www.superpeel.com/
re: grampart
I had a superpeel once, it got damaged beyond hope of repair. I'd like another, but we're 2 people living on a grad student's income so no chance of replacing it any time soon.
The inability to make good pizza has little to do with the order, and everything to do with the inability to make good pizza.
I put the sauce down, and then the cheeses, On top of that; meats, veggies and condiments.
Then before I shove it into the oven a mix of more cheeses, mind you not a whole lot, but deifinitely a good dusting (to hold the other toppings on).
For me it depends on the topping. One's that are gonna give off alot of moisture i'll put on top(mushrooms, green pepper's, etc.) i'll put on top of the cheese.
re: dave_c
Nah, he tops his pizzas much more lightly than I do. Using the peel is a skill we just don't seem to have.
Really I think part of the problem is that he is using boughten pizza dough, which is sticky and apparently fairly hard to handle. I'm not sure he lets it rest at room temp either. We'll see what happens when I can get some yeast and try a couple of from-scratch doughs.
I worked making pizza when I was in college about 40 years ago. The way I was taught, was that cooked or lean toppings could go under the cheese: ham, sweet peppers (Marinated), canned mushrooms, BUT raw or fatty ingredients went on top: sliced onions, raw mushrooms, bacon, pepperoni, sausage................
The raw items needed to be exposed to the direct heat to cook, and this gave fatty meats a chance to have some fat cook out and crisp up.
I would not want to bite into a slice and have slices of almost raw onion, or bacon that was warmed but uncooked under the cheese.
Delicate items, slice paper thin sliced red onions could go under the cheese, as they'd incinerate in a 700 degree oven if on the top.
re: bagelman01
Onion, bacon peperoni.....next you will tell me that pineapple and bbq chix is good on pizza!!( I've seen that)
If you ask for pepperoni in a non -tourist place in Italy.....you get peppers.......
re: ospreycove
Onions, bacon, pepperoni are all very common toppings in the northeast.
In Italy I would expect peppers if I ordered pepperoncini. I wouldn't order pepperoni in Italy, as it is a generic name in the USA for red Italian style salami, not a common name in Italy.
re: bagelman01
Righto......and there is no Nutella pizza either in Italia.
Peperoni is an Italian word, in most regions it means sweet red peppers. Growing up in North N.J. my idea of a great pizza was a tomato pie slice; folded with the excess grease running down your arm to your elbow. When we were really flush sausage and mushroom was the sure fire way to assure a "productive date"......lol
re: ospreycove
Is there Nutella pizza HERE?
I'm still getting used to "Hawaiian pizza" with ham and pineapple, LOL!
re: ZenSojourner
oh try the pineapple and ham with jalapenos (yes with cheese and tomato sauce)) as well. turns into a sort of cheap Chinese sweet and sour flavor (that admission should go over on one of those Foods I Eat in Private type threads)
re: hill food
aaaaaaaagh! /*cringing in terror*/ LOL!
Pizza (as any other item) is constantly evolving. That's not for me, but clearly SOMEBODY likes it! I wonder what pizza will be like when my son is my age.
re: hill food
Not on your life, Mack. ;)
re: Perilagu Khan
umm, did I offer to share? (I know I know, even loved ones who accept and forgive much recoil)
re: bagelman01
the heat in a true wood fired oven comes from the bricks, not from above......With wood ovens that is the reason pizza is a night time offereing only. It takes a good 3-4 hours to get an oven up to temp and get the bricks, (stone) really hot.
re: ospreycove
Sorry you live in a culinary wasteland. I have no problem getting wood fired brick oven baked Apizza for lunch here in Connecticut. Just means the staff has to start the fire earlier in the Day.
Julians in Monroe, makes great New Haven Style wood fired brick oven Apizza and it's available from 11:30 am. We often have lunch there.
My favorite, Sally's in New Haven, and alternate-Pepe's are coal fired brick ovens. They don't let the fire go out overnight, just reduce in temp.
Flo Consiglio, the owner (and widow) of Sally's explained in 'Pizza Paradise' on Travel channel, that after returning from the annual 2 week vacation, it takes TWO weeks to heat the oven to pizza ready temp. Any faster heating would cause the bricks to crack.
Baking a pizza in a 700 degree bick oven only takes a few minutes which is why raw and fatty ingredients need to be on top of the cheese. The cheese will shield the toppings from some of the heat. Not all the heat comes from the bricks under the pizza, some radiates from the sides and top of the ovens.
I spent too many nights working pizza nad bread ovens in the 1970s not to have learned the effects of heat cominng from all sides in the ovens.
re: bagelman01
Bagel....You missed the point, TRADITION, just like no cappucino after 11:00 AM. You know every casa, vico, citta, has "the best, and it is only done "The way it is done'" Eeh?
Srart earlier in the day? Madonna!!!! "We have work rules"............
By the way Pepe's; stood in that line many a day and night.
re: ospreycove
I draw the line at standing in line for Pepe's, ...
Too many other acceptable places around New Haven.
Sally's Im willing to wait for, but luckilly, I'm one of those with the private number <VBG>
Pepe's and the Spot do lunch on certain days. Sally's di it years ago, when Sal Consiglio was alive.
I do like wood fired, but prefer the coal ovens.
Apizza wa a working man's lunch when I was growing up, and it even came wrapped in brown paper tied with string, not a white cardboard box.
re: bagelman01
It is a shame that what you described is now done for "Effect", I reveled in the taverns, with their sandwich, soup, hot plate, of the day; that really meant what they roasted that morning, now it is just another flavor of Boar'sHead! Where is Apizza, that does not ring a bell in my abused, withered brain.
John's on Sullivan was my choice for coal oven pizza. Went there last year..... not the same feeling......damn "you can't go back home"
re: bagelman01
Interesting, Bagelman. Do they still call it "APIZZA" back there?
re: mucho gordo
If the sign and menu don't say Apizza (ah beatz), I'm not likely to eat there......
re: bagelman01
I'll drink to that, Bagelman. Still pronounced the way I remember it. I thought I was the only one. I also remember when the slices were dripping grease from the pepperoni and 'real' Italian sausage; burned palates from the still bubbling cheese.
re: ospreycove
Re ospreycove's "TRADITION, just like no cappucino after 11:00", veering OT for a little story:
SO jauntily approaches middle aged female staffer in tiny caffe somewhere in Sicily.
"Uno capuccino, per favore," says he with perfect intonation and expression.
"Coca Cola?" says the maven of the beverages (it was 2 pm).
SO sheepishly accepts frosty glass of carbonated brown beverage.
This is now a running joke in our family when anyone seeks out this morning only coffee drink later in the day.
PS sauce then cheese then toppings (though I might make an exception for certain veggies, like zucchini, which I think benefits from a little time under the cheese, and mebbe artichokes, to avoid the wispy bits getting overcooked)
I'm sort of with bagelman on this post. It entirely depends on 1. what kind of pizza you're creating (Chicago style, NY, etc), but also, more importantly, what are the ingredients you're layering?
I've made many types of pizza, all different. For example I put proscuitto on both beneath and on top of the cheese. I llike it both ways, kind of chewy and crispy, where you layer it depends on how it will taste.
You have to be careful with watery toppings. Personally, I've carmelized my onions sometimes and sauteed the mushrooms before I put them on, just experimenting with textures.
I personally, do not like either watery pizzas nor dry ones. It's all rather subjective here.
re: natewrites
It certainly is (subjective, that is). Which is why I was interested to see what other people thought about it.
So far (ignoring all references to other than US style pizza) what I seem to see is that those of us who want our toppings on top have the same things to say about why that is - because putting them under the crust turns it into a "goulash", a sort of pizza stew or mush, makes things soggy. Putting them on top allows escape of moisture, development of a certain texture such as "crispiness", etc.
People who like the cheese on top have their own reasons why they like it that way which seem to fall into a different set of categories, but still similar to each other. What I experience as mush, they experience as not drying out or tenderness.
Then there are the handful who have rules about what can go on top and what can go under the cheese, about moisture content etc.
I was interested to see these differences. It's not (to me) that one way is right and another wrong; it boils down to personal taste and what informs the development of that taste. Differences are interesting, but not qualitatively "correct" or "wrong".
I haven't tried carmelized onions on pizza yet, but I probably will at some point. However, off the top of my head, it seems almost a waste to put something like that on a pizza. It seems to me that it would be overwhelmed by the Pizza-ness of the pizza, LOL!
I can eat carmelized onions by the forkful. Literally. So bad of me! >:P
re: ZenSojourner
Dang it, not under the crust, under the CHEESE, LOL!
re: ZenSojourner
unless of course it's a Calzone, and then this whole debate is sorta moot.
re: hill food
Ah, but again that wouldn't be a pizza! ;D
re: ZenSojourner
You really didn't know this was purely about opinion and that there's no "right and wrong"?
Underneath the cheese go the anchovies, and the pre-broiled garlic chunks and char-broiled slivered bite-sized onions. Guest fear these items if they are visually displayed, but savor them with that smiling second-bite "je ne sais quoi".
Everything else goes on top, and some toppings are pre-broiled.
If Tyler Florence says it, it must be true. - Cheese IS a topping - goes on first, sauce goes on LAST.... Unless of course, NYC Pizza isn't "typical" or "American" enough.
If anyone is in a hurry, fast forward to the 3 min mark.
re: Bryan Pepperseed
Excuse me? Sauce goes on last? That is an abomination worthy of a UN edict (which we all know is about as efficacious as a mono-tentacled squid grappling with a sperm whale).
re: Bryan Pepperseed
According to my husband, who is old school I guess, pizza = crust, sauce and mozz. If you put anything else on top, it is a flat hero. He remembers when you used to get pizza in Brooklyn at an Italian bakery, though, and that is his gold standard. When he sees a commercial for Dominos with the five toppings and stuffed crust, he can't shut up about it! PS Brooklyn is in America, so I guess his opinion must count for something.
I definitely like the carmelization and crisping of the topping as a result of being on top of the cheese. I had a brick oven pizza recently with pignoli nuts on it that were tremendous after they were browned. Under the cheese just makes for mush, Zen, I agree.
re: paulj
That sounds more like a Tomato Pie (circa 1912 - long before Uno's 1955 version) to me.
This is a great question...endless debates and in the end, the answer is what ever it is we desire. No right or wrong answer. If I were to pose the question: "which style of pizza is better, New York or Chicago?" I don't think there is enough GB space on this website to hold all the answers. Thanks for posting the question. It gave me great ideas for future pies with my kids.
Either, but if you are using fresh basil, it has to go under, otherwise it turns into something you'd rake up in late October.
re: ChefBoyAreMe
Basil goes on top when making Neapolitan-style pizza, and on top of mine.
re: ChefBoyAreMe
Basil, on a true margharita, goes on AFTER it is removed from the oven, just like a fine dusting of parmigiano reggiano. That's how it is done in Parma, (not Parma, Ohio).
re: ospreycove
"Basil, on a true margharita, goes on AFTER it is removed from the oven,"
I think the folks at Pizzeria da Michele in Naples might disagree with that assertion. Naples is generally considered the birth place of pizza Margherita.
re: ospreycove
When you start throwing around phrases like "true margherita," it's not unreasonable to expect that it's based on some sort of history or fact. I may as well say "a true margherita" comes from my kitchen. Basil can and does go on before cooking on Margherita pizze in Napoli.
re: tommy
Tommy...You missed my "Toungue and cheek" comment on Italian Culture. When a person is asked where a certain dish is best; the answer is invariably, "At my Mother's". So " anything is a "True _________ " in the eyes of the Italian. This is not idle non-factual blather; I spend part of each year in the Abruzze, Sulmona. Where they make "Vero Vino", and "The Best" Salumi, on top of dry pasta "Second to none"......get my drift now? In food "History or fact usually takes a back seat to local/family pride. Oh, the "Confetti" is the best.....Fact originated in Sulmona in the 1800s.
re: ospreycove
Not really. If you present something as fact, as you did, then it should be fact, not opinion.
To suggest that comments like "true Margherita pizza has foie gras and braised short rib" are helpful, as you essentially have (what if I think this is "best"), borders absurd.
re: tommy
Tommy...reread above.....In the hearts of Italians.....it is Fact if it is their CULTURE trumps hard, cold, analytical, fact......Let's end this discussion of Italian Culture and its nuances. Spend some time in a small town and you will see what family/local pride means to the Italians.
re: ospreycove
I understand what you are saying. But you don't understand what I am saying.
Why make a statement saying "true xxxxx is yyyy" if you're not speaking from a position of authority, but rather from your heart.
It's one thing to say "I like to put basil on after the pizza comes out of the oven," or, "I've seen it put on the pizza after it comes out of the oven in Parma." But making claims of authenticity or "true"-ness without any fact or history to back it up is silly. I'll go back to my statement of "True Margherita has foie gras and braised short ribs". Do you find that comment helpful in the least? I would certainly hope not.
re: tommy
Tommy....O.K. I see your point, I guess my "Artistic" interpretation gets in the way of factual reporting.
On another subject, what do you know about , in Westwood, the restaurant that moved to a biker bar It is a BBQ place? I am going to N.J. later this month and a friend willo not stop talking about it, any good/chowworthy?? Thanks
re: ospreycove
Tommy..."Backwoods BBQ", Washington Township.
Sorry for hijacking the topic folks!!!!!!!!
re: ospreycove
He moved to http://doghouse-saloon.com/. I've been to the bar (not really a biker bar), heard mixed reviews on his BBQ, but it looks worth a shot.
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When I make pizza I do sauce, cheese, meat, mushrooms/veggies, cheese. Like ZS's son, I think the top cheese keeps everything together. The top cheese is usually cheddar or some combination thereof.
IMO, plain cheese pizza is a terrible waste of oven space. Pizza is about experiencing an array of flavors. Sure, you can have a salad with just iceberg lettuce, tomatoes, and cucumbers, but more ingredients makes it a better experience. The same holds true for pizza. More is better.
When visiting Italy many moons ago, I was surprised to see "pizza" being dispensed at many locations, including street vendors, cold with just crust and sauce, or crust, sauce, and mozzarella. Most places that made hot pizza had a very limited selection of topping, that always went on top of the cheese. The only place I recall having an "American style" selection was a shop in La Spezia, where the selection included peas as a topping. (It was pretty good with peas on it.)
re: al b. darned
I generally prefer my pie with no more than two toppings. In a pizza with a huge number of toppings, the crust tends to get overwhelmed, IMO. And I really like a nice, crispy crust.
re: Perilagu Khan
gotta agree with Khan. 3 (besides sauce and cheese) are the absolute max. combo is just another way to spell mess.
re: Perilagu Khan
I should ;have said, "The same holds true for pizza. More is better...up to a point." I usually have one meat, onions, green peppers, and mushrooms. Much more and it is hard to eat without losing stuff.
re: al b. darned
<< One reply is conspicuously absent - BOTH!! >>
"Darned it, al", on other threads you always seem to read all the posts from top to bottom, but for this time, see the link to my Sept 4 tidbit above. My pizza, with the anchovy and allium elements hidden from view in sub-caseinian subterfuge, is pretty darned good. :) . I'm adding you to my reading list so that we may share the bifocals at those appropriate times.
re: FoodFuser
I *did* read your entry. Your pizza sounds delicious,but looked to me like you have only one layer of cheese, with toppings both over and under. My pizza has two layers of cheese.
re: al b. darned
(Foodfuser reaches for the bifocals, and re-reads Al's post)
Well I'll be darned. I see that now. I too like a substantial pie.
I agree that the permutations are endless, and I prefer the cheese as the second layer above the sauce and below other toppings on my homemade wild yeast crusts.
The point should be that while topping choices are endless in the continuum between foccacia and pizza, a liberal layer of corn meal on the preparation surface helps prevent sticking, and a dry surface and a dry clean peel make all the difference in the ability to move the pie without dangerous adhesion. A good, elastic dough also allows one to "pull" the pie onto the peel like this guy does http://www.chow.com/videos/show/obses... .
I prefer a metal peel, and I have tapered the leading edge with my whetstone, allowing the peel to be slid underneath the pie.
Yes, I have lost some toppings and yes, I have had some misshapen pies, but practice makes perfect.
Personally I don't see a big deal either way - especially when you consider things like double layered pizzas, calzones, or true "pies" like the "priazzo" that Pizza Hut used to make. Maybe those things aren't true pizzas, but they are good, and certainly some of the toppings in those cases is "under" the cheese. Heck, some people I know even fold pizza slices in half, down the middle, which would ruin the premise of this question too.
I do agree in certain situations - like someone posted that if the pepperoni isn't on top of the cheese, it won't crisp (if that's how you like it) - that it does matter, but in the end the ingredients are getting mashed up in your mouth anyway.
But really, its when I read some of the posts in threads like this, I am reminded why I often think of this site as "Chowsnob" rather than "Chowhound". I just can't see this mattering that much.
I eat my pizza with sausage, extra sauce, and no cheese. Cheese ruins everything that has it. I'm not lactose intolerant or anything. I just really hate the taste of cheese—instant gag reflex.
If I do not add the cheese half way through baking a pizza, it gets burnt brown long before the crust gets crusty. Stone or pan. So the toppings get a chance to roast first. When the little bits of garlic look perfectly golden, the cheese goes on.
Deep-dish pie not a pizza. It is a casserole, pizza mush as you say, but my pizza is not like that.
re: atheorist
Millions of opinions.
Here's my method.
I make thin crusts which I've cooked on both sides on a very hot pizza stone. I'll make maybe twelve medium size at a time for a small 'pizza party'. Everyone gets their own personal 'doggy-bag'.
I form the dough into balls and let rise in the fridge for about 24 hours before rolling out. TB had what he considered the best pizza maker in NY show him this method of a long rise. It on Youtube somewhere.
They come out of the oven nice and thin and lightly golden and crispy but not brittle crispy. (I add some 'high gluten; flour to the all purpose)
They can then sit on the counter all afternoon.
My 'secret' when it comes time for my friends to 'build' their pizzas from a counter full of ingredients is I suggest, and demonstrate is to first smear on some good OO into the dry crust first. Then a light sprinkle of mozza grated cheese. Then they can put any toppings on in any order.
The secret is to smear on the OO directly on the crust then the cheese. Somehow this combination insures the topping won't slide off the pizza when being baked/eaten. It acts like a 'glue' b/c the OO absorbs into the crust which helps the mozz cheese stick to the crust. Then whatever toppings stick to the mozza. Been doing this for too long to remember.
Works every time. Never had any pizza topping slide off.
Wow! Just reading the rebuttals is enough to render this topic lost! Who cares if cheese is considered a "topping" or not?! The question was simply- "Are toppings better underneath or on top of cheese?" Answer the question! Gah!!!
Pizza's like sex--to each their own; and it's still good!
As a teen I worked in one of those take and bake pizza places. This woman would come in every week and order 2 pizzas and asked whoever was making her pizza to put the cheese on top of her toppings. She said her family loved the crispy browned cheese. So I thought I like crispy brown cheese, so next time I made myself a pizza I tried it. It was alright, but I missed the crisp edges of pepperoni.
So, after this pointless story, I like my toppings on top of cheese.
2 toppings is best IMO.
Pepperoni or Genoa salami
And green olives or banana peppers.
re: itsmejessica
I'm on board with just about all you say, itsmejessica.
I prefer a little browning on both my toppings and the cheese, two toppings is usually ideal for the type of pizza I'm making or eating, and pepperoni + banana pepper is possibly my favorite two-topping combo.
oh it all depends on the crust - thin and crispy, thin and a bit soft, thick and chewy, thick and soft - your call and the layering depends on it as much as it does the viscosity of the cheese used and the amount of sauce.
there ought to be a board called "The One True and Righteous Method to Prepare 'X' "
I recently made 2 pizza with only tomato sauce and cheese. For the first pie I placed mozzarella directly on top of the crust, I then spread the tomatoes over the cheese. This layering is similar to the ones used in famous pizza chains. For the 2nd cheese pizza, I placed the sauce first, then sprinkled the cheese on top of it.
It's a amazing how simply changing the layering can create 2 pies with different flavors. I must admit, though, that the first pizza (tomato pie) turned out to have greater and deeper flavor.
If you got the basic ingredients, why not try these pies? You may also season your tomato pie however you like and add other toppings you prefer. These pizzas are easy to prepare and are extremely yummy! Try them and let me know how it went!


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