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Two parents want the Jeffco school district to vet sponsors of district officials' speaking engagements after an announcement for an Evergreen Tea Party meeting originally listed a white-supremacist group as a co-sponsor.
The flier for the Evergreen Tea Party's Education Night on Nov. 10 originally listed the American Freedom Party as a co-sponsor. The flier was later corrected to list Americans For Prosperity, and an explanation of the error is on the Tea Party's website.
In her role as principal for a day, first-grader Josephine Trinco greeted students, oversaw a fire drill and learned about top-level responsibilities at Wilmot Elementary School on Nov. 18.
Accompanied by principal Matt Cormier, Josephine visited classrooms and handed out birthday cards to students after leading her classmates in the Pledge of Allegiance and making morning announcements.
During her tour of the school, Josephine asked students if they would like to create a new rule for the day. One suggestion was to allow gum-chewing in class.
Norm Meyer Sr., 97, an iconic figure in the Conifer area, died Friday in his sleep.
Meyer, whose ranch property and Midway House act as a gateway into the Aspen Park area, also was an avid pilot. He and the community bid farewell to his Cessna 180 in August 2010 as it flew to its new home in Hotchkiss on the Western Slope. He was inducted into the Aviation Hall of Fame in 2011.
Evergreen Fire Protection District officials plan to add new user fees and to increase existing fees by up to 15 percent to offset an expected drop in property-tax revenue in 2015.
Probably the biggest proposed fee — fire officials plan to charge drivers $500 for traffic accidents the district responds to, said Fire Chief Mike Weege. Only drivers who live outside the district would be charged, since they don't the pay property taxes that make up the majority of the fire district's revenue.
You may have an easier trip than usual if you're headed over the river and through the woods on Interstate 70 this Thanksgiving holiday to check out Idaho Springs' tree-lighting ceremony.
While reviewing a third draft of the 2015 budget for the Evergreen Park and Recreation District on Nov. 18, board members suggested changes to accurately reflect expenditures in the coming year.
Evergreen resident Linda Castle will begin her new position as managing director of the Evergreen Downtown Business Association on Jan. 1. She is replacing former EDBA president Trish Wales, who resigned last summer.
"We are delighted to welcome her in this position, and know her expertise will further the success of our community events and activities, and will add to the economic vitality in our unique arts, cultural and commercial district," said EDBA board member Joan Mickelson.
Father Christmas would have been pleased when more than 200 guests gathered at the Evergreen Lake House on Saturday evening for the 14th annual Wine Tasting and Festival of Trees.
Presented by the Conifer Area Chamber of Commerce, the event brought together local businesses, Colorado wineries and chamber supporters for a night of mostly giving and, for some lucky silent-auction bidders, a night of receiving.
Gathered in the farmhouse at the Humphrey History Park and Museum, participants in a craft program were creating holiday table decorations on Nov. 19. Using paper, silk leaves and gold spray paint, they transformed everyday materials into glittering décor.
Angela Rayne, executive director of the museum, was leading the class while taking a break from managing the farm, which includes goats and chickens that need care and feeding.
Upcoming classes at the museum on Soda Creek Road include making snow globes and soaps.
Conifer residents recently said goodbye to outgoing elected officials and were greeted by their replacements.
"Thank you for the support you've always shown me," said Jeffco County Commissioner Don Rosier. "I've always been impressed with Conifer and how you always come together as a community."
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MacGyver in the kitchen
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- jsantopietro Oct 5, 2010 12:10 PM
Hi Chowhounders,
I've got a query for you.
About 14 years ago, I cooked my first Thanksgiving. I wasn't in the U.S. – I was living in an ill-equipped apartment with few kitchen appliances. Many ingredients that are common here, like sweet potatoes and evaporated milk, were hard to find.
After a few calls to my mom, and much running around, I managed to find what I needed. I also learned, for the first time in my life, how to improvise in the kitchen. I turned a wine bottle into a rolling pin, I fused two aluminum foil pans together and wrapped them with more foil to create a pan large enough for my just-killed-that-morning, gigantic bird. I trussed it with dental floss (don't panic – it was not scented), and to make evaporated milk for the pumpkin pie, I (drum roll) evaporated milk. (Of course my mom had to tell me to do that.) I couldn't find sweet potatoes, so I used a white potato that tasted a lot like chestnuts (they were delicious). The meal was perfect – improvised, but perfect.
My question for you: have you ever become MacGyver in your kitchen? Are there things you do to improvise when you don't have the right tools or ingredients? Would love to hear your ideas. I will compile them into a CHOW holiday story.
Here are some ideas:
Rolling pin = cleaned wine bottle
Cheesecloth = cleaned white cotton t-shirt
Trussing string = unscented dental floss or cut a slit in the flap of skin near the leg and tuck the legs under and into the slit
Nutcracker = hammer
Oven breaks down = cut it into pieces and cook it in the toaster oven
Thanks for your help!
Jill Santopietro
Senior Food Editor, CHOW.com
Meat Hammer = rubber mallet covered w/plastic wrap
Panini Press = 2 pans, nonstick on the bottom cast on top with the kettle inside for weight
Office binder clips to hold parchment in place in a brownie pan when pouring batter
Sections of garden hose slit down the middle to protect knife edges during transport
This is good stuff...Fine Cooking gives out trinkets for these kind of tips!
re: BiscuitBoy
Thanks BiscuitBoy. Great ideas. I will check out Fine Cooking's stuff too. Thanks for the tip.
re: BiscuitBoy
There's at least one thread, probably in Cookware, about binder clips.
Wire coat hanger, shoulders unbent, cut in middle and ends bent up. Hook end hung over upper cabinet door = cookbook holder at eye level. For a heavier cookbook, two hangers, no cutting. Hang both and bend up the doubled-over ends, using one for each half of the book.
Styrofoam is not recycled in my town. I wash the trays that come under meat and pre-packed produce, and use them for plates when packing lunch in a cooler. Toss them after use. I also use them as cutting boards when prepping smaller amounts of produce. My theory is that they dull the knife blade less than a wood or plastic cutting board. They also make decent bench scrapers and crumb sweepers.
re: BiscuitBoy
Hey, MacGyver--you forgot your pics! Way more clever than whoever thought up the silly panini press with the precariously placed brick (remember)? Your way is SO much more sensible even if you think it's hillbilly: http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/7021...
And you forgot making a basting mop for ribs, too--a wooden spoon (or fork) with a piece of old dish towel tied to it. Now what do you win?
P.S. Then there's tying cuffs with elastic to prevent ripping one's pants, but that's not for the kitchen. HA HA HA! ;) My hero.
re: BiscuitBoy
On my wish list a couple of years ago, one of our daughters gave me the rubber mallet. Love it plus it can be used outside the kitchen.
I just wrap my knife in a dish towel when I travel. Then I have the towel to use also.
re: c oliver
Use a wooden mallet to open jars. Tea kettle to press down eggplant with a plate to cover the eggpant and tea kettle filled with water to press out the juices from the eggplant.
re: classylady
Use a "church key" to open jars. Turn it so the point is facing up, put in under the lip of the lid and barely lift it up. It will usually break the seal.
re: c oliver
I love this tip, which I read a while ago somewhere else on Chowhound. I have this plastic "jar pop" thing which works only some of the time, but the church key always audibly pops the seal and makes jars easy to open.
re: classylady
I just use the back of a knife. Smack it against the jar lid a few times around, and the seal always pops.
re: LindaWhit
I do the same or wrap a fat rubber band around the lid and twist
re: classylady
Hold jar very securely, horizontally in one hand and smack sharply once or twice on the bottom with the heel of your other hand. Pops the seal without denting (or cracking, if it's plastic) the lid.
re: morwen
Amazing how well this works, even for weak little old ladies like me.
re: BiscuitBoy
In a similar vein, meat mallet = small, flat-bottomed saucepan
That clean wine bottle will also crack nuts and peppercorns. I haven't used cheesecloth in ages, coffee filters are easy. Bamboo skewers for trussing, oil helps for later removal.Dental floss makes and excellent soft cheese cutter as well as a dough divider. A pastry scrapers are a third hand, always besides me, scoop up diced, chopped veggies, just have a good one out and be surprised how many ways you can find to use it.
Yes, I think cooking is the other Mother of invention.
re: c oliver
If you don't have or won't use coffee filters, a paper towel works!
re: boyzoma
I have so few uses for cheesecloth that a package last me for ages.
re: boyzoma
I used to use paper towels, then I tasted something strange in my food where I used the papertowels (I think it was cheese) and discovered it was the smell from the paper towels. They emit an odd odor after they are wet. Like a paper plant (factory) smell. Coffee filters do not have that smell.
re: c oliver
I have coffee filters on hand all the time, and as said below paper towel works too.
Lightly dragging a paper towel across a soup of stew skims of surface fat easily.
re: c oliver
Not even close. Standard coffee filters cost a buck for 200.
re: John E.
If I ever start using coffee filters I'll remember that.
re: c oliver
As a cold brew aficionado, I have very few uses for coffee filters. But I keep one of these on hand for straining stock or what have you:
It's reusable, so I feel like a better world citizen. And I've had terrible luck using paper towels as cheescloth substitutes. They either disintegrate or clog up.
re: small h
We have one of those and never use it for coffee. Doesn't it clog up with the fat from the stock? I prefer cheesecloth, but don't always have it on hand. I usually strain the stock through a sieve first and then through paper towels. If it clogs, then I switch to a new paper towel.
re: John E.
I only make shrimp/vegetable stock, so fat isn't an issue. I probably should've mentioned that.
re: cassoulady
Now THAT is very cool. Very.
re: c oliver
it is nice to not warn guests, hey watch out for the tooth pick.
instead I can warn them of a rogue piece of cooked spaghetti. I use it most for a chicken/veal saltimbocca recipe that i roll up.
re: cassoulady
OK, I love love LOVE this idea, cassoulady! The uncooked spaghetti strand doesn't break as you attempt to skewer?
re: LindaWhit
you will end up breaking a few (but hey is spaghetti) but if you hold the spaghetti close to the tip as youpeirce thru the chicken, it should be ok. Especially logical with eggplant rollatini to discourage them from unravelling as you put them in the pan.
re: cassoulady
I've used two or three, held side by side, which adds a little more strength.
I've successfully done roast duck with a large frying pan, tin foil and some cookie cutters (to raise the duck off the pan) for steaming, and finishing the roasting in a toaster oven.
Food wise, I once made a Caesar dressing that involved yoghurt, Thai fish sauce and tonkatsu sauce as ingredients. It actually tasted pretty good.
re: tastesgoodwhatisit
I make a large foil ring/doughnut if needing a round rack.
I improvise ALL the time, but the improvisations are sometimes complicated. I've converted my slow cookers into precision ovens and stacking food dehydrators, because I can't afford or don't have a place for the appliances or because the products don't exist (yet). Those adaptations do require some electrical knowledge.
Some of my simpler improvs include a rolling pin from an oak dowel that cost me 60 cents at Home Depot, soda bottles fashioned into garlic storage, craft wire made into pan trivets, thermometer hooks and sheaths. I've even crocheted a heat cover for my slow cookers.
My McGyver wine decanter drying rack:
Paper towel holder -- take the top knob off.
Take a paring knife and make a small pilot hole in a wine cork (easy - you're washing the carafe, which means you've got a cork from tonight's bottle, right?)
Twist the cork onto the little screw on the top of the middle spindle on the paper towel holder (take the roll of towels off first)
Wash and rinse the decanter with very hot water
Turn the decanter upside down over the spindle of the paper tower holder -- the cork prevents the screw on the spindle from scratching the carafe, the carafe drains and dries, and you don't have to spend $20 on a stainless carafe drying rack, or find somewhere to keep it.
I have definitely used dental floss in many applications. It can hold a filet together quite nicely, for instance, and you can also use it for your boquet garnis. I've used the stone from my molcajete for numerous things, including smashing a large amount of garlic up. A few times, when I needed some coarsely ground black pepper (can't remember for what), I put whole peppercorns in a small bowl, and ground them with the non-business end of a screwdriver.
2nding using yogurt as a substitute for sour cream, creme freche, or even Mexican table creme. Also, my current yogurt-making set-up consists of little more than a cooler with a blanket stuffed inside.
Not sure if this counts, but a used paper towel roll is an excellent way to safely transport a knife. Toilet paper roll works too, if you want to pack a paring knife.
Finally, no kitchen is complete without a brick. Best way to spatchcock a chicken. I found mine while walking around the neighborhood.
re: gilintx
Such good tips! And then to round it all out with a word such as spatchcock! Bravo.
re: greygarious
You can stuff a ton of plastic grocery bags into a cheap tiny cell phone case that attaches (in my case) to a backpack or purse or even a key ring. That way you always have your own bags if you forget the good reusable shopping bags. Discovered this while traveling in Ireland where you need to have your own shopping bags.
I've try to be McGyver but it never turns out pretty. For example my last MacGyver moment was an attempt at drying hotpeppers in a bag in the microwave, the result woke my wife up from a sound sleep in a coughing fit. Not sure if it was some reaction between the peppers and the bag, but I turned them on and forgot completely about it until they were pretty much afire in the microwave. The affect on her was very similar to a dose of pepper spray in the face.
re: corneygirl
I've done this with an ice pick and a butter knife but adding the dime is just genius. My favorite was with the drill. Drill in pull out, reverse to remove cork.
re: just_M
>>""Drill in pull out, reverse to remove cork.""<<
now that's HANDY, MAN (er...HANDY, MA'AM!). ;-).
re: alkapal
just another "Doi"! moment brought to you my M :-)
as an aside while searching high and low for the corkscrew I *know* is here somewhere. I sing to myself "where have all the corkscrews gone?" a riff off of Peter, Paul & Mary's "Where Have All The Flours Gone?" Keeps me calm and focused and then drives me insane until I find it or MacGyver it and can finish with "the wine is open anyway - when will I ever learn - when will I ever learn" It's part of the process ;-}
re: just_M
I bet the song helps - love it!
In college, we used a screw and screwdriver to open wine bottles - insert screw into cork, then yank like heck! (or maybe dig out the pliers) That worked well enough until we realized that being underage didn't mean it was illegal to buy a corkscrew... duh...
re: truman
do a YouTube search for the guy who opens a bottle of wine by putting the unopened bottle in his shoe (bottom of the bottle in the shoe) then smacking the bejeebers out of the shoe against a wall...the compressed air in the bottle actually shoves the cork out of the bottle.
haven't had the nerve to try it, but have been keeping it in the back of my mind just in case.
I use styrofoam meat trays to defrost meat and other frozen stuff. They catch condensation, and provide a little insulation so the bottom of the meat doesn't thaw faster than the rest of it.
I use stainless steel skillets as roasting pans. I've also used thick juice glasses wrapped in saran wrap for a rolling pin.
I've fashioned an "origami" casserole dish for baked ziti and mac and cheese out of tin foil.
Just last week I lost the cookie cutter I planned to use for cutting ravioli and ended up using the cap of a Pam Cooking Spray can. It made perfectly sized ravioli circles.
My first Thanksgiving was also outside the US. And certainly my first lesson on improv in the kitchen :-}
My husband and I met and married after Desert Storm (Gulf I) and he was promptly shipped out unaccompanied to Rota, Spain. So the Mr. got another guy to send for his wife and we rented an apartment. The tiniest kitchen I had ever seen, I didn't even know stoves came that small. And on top of that the Command was not pleased that wives were showing up, so they commanded that we could not shop on base or accompany our husbands to shop! Needless to say with the exception of mashed potatoes everything was improvised. I do remember the bird and the roasting pan were far too big for the oven so I cut up the bird and put it on top of a mound of stuffing on a cookie sheet which turned out well. The cranberry sauce was awful. I had never used cream of mushroom soup before but was greatfull for its versatility when I of course ruined my 1st gravy. Given what we were working with: no cookbook, a 21 w/general knowledge, a just 18yo that needed to be taught how to "make" a can of ravioli and an oven we had to guess the temp on, it all turned out really well and the company was awesome.
Currently I use my blender to grind spices, I like that I can clean it so there is no transference of flavors, and after out coffee grinder broke it took over that job too.
I also quit using foil and cling film to cover things. I'll us a cookie sheet or oven proof plate or lid or a metal bowl. One of my roasting pans has a lid so I'll use that for lasagna or other casseroles. In the microwave I use a plate to cover a bowl and a bowl to cover a plate.
re: just_M
When you said blender, it reminds me of when I use a pint jar to screw onto the base blade and use for so many different things from grinding spices, roasted peppers, chopped anything, slurry's and sauce makings. So much more handy than the tall blender. Always keep a couple of Ball jars handy for this.
re: boyzoma
That is an excellent idea! I am so trying this, hope I've go the right jar :-/
re: just_M
Some salad dressing companies provide a plastic cover with a hole in the center to prevent spilling a lot of dressing on the salad, some dont. The plastic cover with a hole in the center is easily transfered to the companies that dont provide it.
re: classylady
which you never discover until AFTER you've immersed your salad in dressing. Ugh.
re: boyzoma
I have LOVED my blender ever since I read that canning jars can be used on them. Mine takes the smaller mouthed mason jars. I have a bunch of little short... I think 4 oz. size jars that I use to grind spices and coffee and such. I really like those little jars!
re: Popkin
I have some of the small ones too. I believe they are "jelly" jars. It's perfect.
When I was first cooking for myself in college, I chucked a bent coathanger into my electric drill to whip cream. Yes it was a variable speed drill.
Regarding ingredient substitutions, there's a whole cookbook called "how to repair food"
Wow! Great ideas everyone. This may have to be a longer story. Do any of you have a trick for opening a can without a can opener?
And any dining room table tricks, like if you forget a centerpiece, for example, you can fill a glass vase or bowl with cranberries or walnuts, or pull a few branches of holly from your bush and lay them in the center of the table with apples tucked in.
Love your feedback!
CHOW.com, senior food editor
re: jsantopietro
As for opening a can, have you ever tried a screwdriver and a hammer? Works in a pinch!
re: jsantopietro
<< Do any of you have a trick for opening a can without a can opener? >>
The can problem usually happens to me while camping. I place the can usually on a towel to keep from slipping. Then using a knife or a clean, flat head screwdriver and some form of hammer, usually another can or a rock I tap the tip of the knife or screwdriver into the lid all around the edge.
As for ingredient swaps, I've found peanut butter works in place of butter/oil/shortening in every baked good I've tried. As well as batter items like pancakes and waffles. I swap it 1 for 1 and it is always delicious, adding a background taste that boosts other flavors. Similar to adding a bit of coffee to a brownie recipe.
re: just_M
Survivalist Cody Lundin demonstrates a method of opening a can by rubbing the top on a curb or a chunk of concrete until the seal breaks and then you lift the lid off. It takes about 2 minutes. It is 4 minutes and 43 seconds into this 7 minute video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mmmpg-.... The whole video is interesting.
re: Hank Hanover
I've got to check that out, thanks :-)
re: jsantopietro
For opening the can, you can use a church key and "punch" all the way around the can. Be careful; it's lots of sharp edges.
re: jsantopietro
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A while back, following a suggestion in CH, I tried making spaetzle using a disposable pie pan punctured with a knitting needle, using a bench scraper to trowel the batter through. There were two problems. First, the rim got very hot. Holding it in place with an oven mitt was awkward, and using pliers didn't hold it down on the pot firmly enough. Second, the batter in the pie pan started to solidify and clog the holes. In fairness, it was probably a little too thick, or the 1/4" holes too small.
Plan B today: Larger knitting needle to poke holes in one end of an extra-thick, long styrofoam tray that had held a family-size number of chicken thighs. The length meant I could dump the batter on the unpunctured side and squeegee it over the holes. The styrofoam eliminated the heat problem. I found that tapping the tray against the rim of the pot cleared any holes that started to clog. Success!
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A colander with holes works as a spaetzle press in a pinch. Use a rubber spatula to force the batter through the holes or a plastic pastery scraper (different from a bench scraper). I have seen experience spaezle makers on some TV cooking show pour the batter onto a small, hand-held cuttinging board and using the back of a knife, scrape ribbons of the batter into the water. I've never tried it, but it worked well for them.
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Spaetzle-making has been extensively discussed on this board. Most people agree that colander holes are too small, and a colander has the same heat/clogging problems as the foil pie tin. You're spot on in observing that using the cutting board method requires some practice. I'm happy with the styrofoam, so it's on to trying different flours, including whole wheat and besan.
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I hadn't seen the spaetzle threads, but I do have a plastic colander that works pretty well at making spaetzle. It has larger square holes that don't seem to clog.
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Here is my situation. Me and my girlfriend seem to argue alt. But I have come to realize I have made mountains out of mole hills. Because we argued so much I lacked on giving her affection. So 2 weeks ago I said we shouldn't be together. I devastated her. She told me when you love someone you fight for that love. We still stayed in contact for the last two weeks through text. A week into all of this I told her I wanted to try to work this out if she wanted too. She seemed interested. Then a few days ago we started arguing again and she called me an a**hole ( she never called me any names before and neither did I) and out of anger I called her a slut. I am an a**hole for that and I really regret it. For the next few days she hasn't responded to any of my texts or calls. I left her a note on her care pouring out my heart and apologizing and the next day left flowers candy and a card for her mom to give to her. Then yesterday I bumped into her in the store and we talked a little and I bought her coffee. I asked if she still loved me and she said yes but she doesn't like me right now. I asked if we could meet up and talk, somewhere other then the store, she said not today but maybe tomorrow but she wasn't making any promises. I gave her a hug goodbye and she wished me a good day at work. Any input would be appreciated. Thank you.
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Screw this crap! Some of the answers are a load of crap and could possibly ruin your chances. Brownchic's method would personally make me call you an a-hole and a select few other things. She is hurt because you called her a slut...especially if she most definitely hasn't slept with anyone, or many guys. I've had one guy intimately and if he called me a slut, I'd be devastated and it'd be hard to forgive him. We've had our fair share of nane calling...and the first time he called me a b!tch it crushed me... Because I never thought he'd say it back, but he apologized, and I explained how hurt he made me, and why I called him out of his name...had he IGNORED ME I would have jumoed to the conclusion he meant it...and in your ex's case...I would move on and look for a new guy. It's really painful to be called names right? Wouldn't you want her to apologize and make up for the pain with a little affection? Ignoring the problem never fixes it...a d I agree...if you love someone you fight for them. I ran after my boyfriend in the dark before we started dating when he left once, I RAN. I ran until I collapsed because I didn't want to lose him. He has ran after me in the same scenario after that.. You both need to sit down and talk about the things thst make you mad... And avoid the reasonble things...but you both need to find something...counting to ten, walking away, something that calms you down when you're mad at each other. Me and my boyfriend fight a lot... But at the end of the day, talking it out, the apologies, the cuddling...him reminding me he loves me, making me food, it reminds me thst he really does love me... And if he didn't do all those things, how would I know he didn't mean to say those mean things? Love isn't about "I'm nit talking to you!" childish games...it's about letting go of your silly and stupid pride and BOTH OF YOU trying to make it work...because you feel you need to. Because your life is SO much better with them in it. :) I'm not that old...but I realize games only make it worse. I WOULD RATHER BE TO VULNERABLE THEN OVER DEFENSIVE ANY DAY! Why? Cause then you can say you gave it your all...and guess what? Even if it doesn't work out? It's practice for the girl who will absolutely ADORE YOU for how hard you try for her. IT DEFINITELY isn't attractive or a solution to ignore her if she texts you.. Yeah you can lay off the texts for a day or two...if you want to give her time to vent... But a week is harsh...she will think you've found another girl and that she doesn't mean anything to you.
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you are coming off too desperate for him..i would say just don't make any contact to her for at least 2-3 weeks...she will come back to you...she will be confused as to why you are not giving her any more attention via texting or calling and stuff..right now she thinks she can walk all over you..so I'd say apply No contact rule starting today! make sure when she texts you ..u don't reply to her text..atleast first couple of texts! pick up the phone if she calls u..u showed her that you would fight for her she's taking advantage of that...now its her turn to prove that same love for you!
The perfect relationship is not the one where partners don't argue. But this case can simply be two personalities clashing with each other. My advice to you is to give it a rest for a while so you two can get some breathing space. Take time to think about the good qualities about her that you like and hold on to that. Then when you see her again, you can sit and have a civilized conversation and decide where you want to go after that. If it does not work out that way then just leave it alone. Sometimes people need to be apart in order to grow and mature so they can be together. So who knows, maybe in future you might meet again and everything would be just fine.
I don't think you two should be together. It sounds like,even though you still have, and that is perfectly natural to still have, feelings for each other still. You two werent even apart for more than a week and you were already calling each other bad names. .its just my opinion, though.
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|Wed, 03-28-2012 - 1:03pm
Is that common? My level on Saturday the 24th was 285. Had dr appt yesterday(27th)...she did u/s...pretty much everything was gone, but my level was 295! I thought it's supposed to drop:-/ Does it take awhile to drop after a m/c? TIA!
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yeah, I think it takes awhile for your body to acclimate?
for example....I had my m/c, then D&C on 1/04 & my boobies (nipples) are still huge & hard as a rock, when I get cold, like they are waiting to still breastfeed!
I think it just takes some time for your body to get back to normal (maybe that's why dr.'s say your highly fertile after a m/c?)
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$850,000.00 32-year-old man was struck from behind by an 18-wheeler truck in Calcasieu Parish. Defendants initially argued a "sudden emergency" defense. Client required a lumbar fusion, and defendants ultimately compensated client.
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$550,000.00 A 46-year-old man was stopped to make a left turn off Lake Street in Lake Charles, LA and was struck from behind by a commercial vehicle. Client had a lumbar discectomy surgery.
$617,402.03 After a lengthy jury trial, a jury awarded a 26-year-old woman money damages for injuries to her eye. Client was stuck by a "line drive" foul ball as she was purchasing a ticket at a baseball park. The jury found the ballpark's design and the owner's placement of the ticket booth to be improper. 897 So.2d 893 (La. App 3 Cir. 3-9-05)


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- The Yankees lost, 5-4, to the Blue Jays on Sunday, and finished up their season-long 10-game homestand with a mark of 7-3. New York is 3-36 (.077) overall when allowing five or more runs in 2014 -- second worst of any team in the majors (Texas is 4-50, .074).
- Texas dropped two of three over the weekend to Oakland, and has now lost seven consecutive series overall (dating to June 30). Including a 9-3 setback to the A's on Sunday, the Rangers have lost 20 straight games when scoring three or fewer runs.
- The Yankees took three of four from the Rangers in the Bronx last week, and have won four of five games vs. the Rangers overall (dating to last season). These two clubs have met 10 times in Arlington since 2011, and each has won five of those contests.
- David Phelps went 5.0 innings and allowed just one run (earned) in last Wednesday's rain-shortened game against the Rangers, winning that contest, and improving to 4-0 with a 2.96 ERA in his last eight starts overall. Phelps is 2-0 with a 2.70 ERA in two career starts vs. the Rangers.
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Entering his fourth start since being acquired July 6, McCarthy will try to keep rolling and improve his fortunes against one of his former clubs Tuesday night as the Yankees look to avoid a series loss against the pitiful Texas Rangers.
While Tanaka went 2-0 with a 2.05 ERA and .185 opponent average through his first three starts, McCarthy (2-0, 1.45 ERA) has been as effective - though a bit more hittable with a .260 opponent average.
He's held each of his opponents to one earned run, including Texas in Thursday's 4-2 victory. The right-hander surrendered four hits with five strikeouts over six innings, giving him a 4-0 record with a 1.78 ERA in his last five starts overall.
"It's a nice feeling," McCarthy told MLB's official website. "It's the opposite of how I felt earlier this year, where I was a burden on my team. I was a guy that was holding things up. To come here and feel good about myself again, to contribute to a playoff race, is a great feeling."
Along with the change of leagues has come added run support. With Arizona, McCarthy received an average of 3.20 runs, which ranked seventh lowest in baseball before the trade. Thus far in New York, his RSA is 6.75, and while that might be easing some of the pressure, he's enjoying the bigger stage and higher stakes as the Yankees try to track down Baltimore and Toronto in the AL East.
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McCarthy's visits to Texas since leaving in free agency after the 2010 season have been quite rough with a 0-2 record and 7.65 ERA in four starts. Adrian Beltre is batting .389 in 36 at-bats against McCarthy, but Alex Rios is just 1 for 19.
The Yankees (54-51) started the series with a 4-2 loss Monday that was their third straight and dropped them 4 1/2 games behind the Orioles. It also soured Derek Jeter's eclipsing of Carl Yastrzemski for seventh place on the all-time hits list.
Jeter and Brett Gardner each collected three hits, and Gardner left the yard twice for the first time in his career. Jeter's night boosted his average to .278, his highest since entering April 27 at .292.
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Martinez (1-6, 4.73) is winless in eight starts with a 0-5 record and 6.98 ERA, though he probably deserved better in Tuesday's 2-1 loss in New York. The right-hander held the Yankees to three hits in 5 1-3 scoreless innings after coming off the disabled list.
Yankees first baseman Mark Teixeira played for the first time in eight games and gathered a pinch-hit single. After missing a week because of a back strain, the former Ranger hopes to be back in the starting lineup Tuesday.
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Discrepancies between federal and state surveys decreased from nearly 15% in fiscal year 2007 to slightly more than 12% in fiscal year 2008. States' overall understatement, including deficiencies cited at too low a level, fell to 14.1% in fiscal year 2008, down from 16.5% in fiscal year 2007. Because of large variances in the year-to-year numbers—the percentage of missed deficiencies was 17.5% in 2003 and 11.1% in 2004, for example—it is unclear whether this downward trend will continue, according to the report.
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All the other software I've used is it pretty similar. AutoCAD is the only one that is vastly different. For example Adobe products seem identical. Up until now I've been running everything on Mac, except AutoCAD which I run in Parallels. The only problem with that is that Paralles doesn't support upgrades to keep up with Mac OS, they make you pay for each upgrade. BTW it wasn't my choice to switch, everyone here switched.
Not to be whiney but judging from the many threads about htis problem across the internet, it's not like I'm alone in my frustration. It's not just the ribbon, I actually don't mind that, it's that many of the tool options are different, names of functions have changed, location of tools, etc. Remember that many people run one system at home and another at work (that's how I got into this mess). When using AutoCAD on both platforms, it's a struggle to do the same tasks in such very different ways. Considering that this is a professional tool, and that people change jobs fairly frequently, it is not practical for there to be such differences. You could work in a PC office for years and find youself struggling to use a program you used to know very well when you get hired to work in an office that runs Mac. In this economy it's not very practical for people to say "yeah, I'd really love this job, but I'm a PC AutoCAD user so it will take me a few months to learn the Mac UI".
In the words of Guido the killer pimp "...you look like a smart kid. I'm going to tell you something I'm sure you'll understand. You're having fun now, right? Right, Joel? The time of your life. In a sluggish economy, never ever f&*^ with another man's livelihood. Now, if you're smart, and I hope you are, you're not gonna make me come back here."
"you" was intended for you, your company, your decision makers, anyone involved in the decision to switch: sounds like you need to complain to them and be heard and demand some serious training to make the transition less painful. That's a shortcomming of the company you work for unfortunately. You are just preaching to fellow end users here, so it's going nowhere for the most part.
The AutoCAD for MAC format is a very comfortable Mac-friendly interface created for MAC users needing access to AutoCAD, but not Windows users switching OS and wanting to keep the Windows interface. What other software vendors do is not relevant sadly since none of them own or write code for Autodesk.
As for commands missing or working differently, you forget that AutoCAD is Microsoft Windows Centric on the original platform and they had to unplug from there and tap into a world-class Unix-based hard-core OS like the MAC. Things changed, and they still struggle with other Windows-based abilities and porting them to MAC OS.
It is my personal opinion that if you really want to see the future of AutoCAD that we will all use regardless of OS, you need to jump on AutoCADWS. Totally different from either platform and most likely the only format we will all be using sooner than later.
Talk to your supervisor about getting proper training: you need it. They are denying you the key to their provided office tools.
I'm just curious: what do you mean by:
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... it's that many of the tool options are different, names of functions have changed,...
There are some features that are available only in AC for Mac, and a lot of features that not available in it in compare to the Windows version. But on Command line "level" this two AutoCADs are the same.
In case of differences between interfaces: do you want to complain about "wrong" position of window control elements (Close, Restore, Maximize) on Mac - they are on the left side (opposite to the right side on PC - Windows).
After all the problem of studying the "new" or "different" in using the software (and in any other case) is entirely dependent on the interests and needs of each user. For example for me it was interesting to know about the quote you provided in your post. It was not difficult for me to find out that the quote was from "Risky Business" movie, despite the fact that this movie has never been in Cinemas in my country (in Russia).
The quote I suspect is an attempt at what is referred to as a Straw Man Argument: probably well intentioned superficially but just not relevant at all
The OP is missing the point of his quote: his company (not Autodesk) made the switch and they either offer no training with their provided business tools, or he has not started training or asked for it yet, or his company has set the OP up to fail for some reason (which I can't believe at all but I thought I would add to the conspiracy theory LOL).
You situation is not an uncommon one in business. They can change software versions, or even brands, and you will need to adapt to a whole new interface on the fly, and sometimes without training. With the rapid pace of software, hardware, and OS development (and marketing) thats not going to change.
Be adaptable. Don't just learn the one program, learn how to learn to use any program. It will not only future-proof your skills but make you a valuable asset for training other users and selecting future software.
I guess one doesn't become Elite expert for nothing. However, notwithstanding the fact that this situation is "not uncommon one in business" that doesn't make it right or desirable. Adopt, adapt, overcome or else are lofty slogans but this case looks like a disconnect ratrher than evolution.
Nevermind that the UI is entirely different but simple things that irk me to no end, like not being able to rename layouts from bottom ribbon palette (like you can from tabs on WIn), and still not able to rename them upon lauching a completely counter-intuitive window where you have to go to Help to find out that you cannot rename them even there, since for some reason they are created as Default layouts... this type of shortcomings are a serious no-no for a major brand software that comes with a hefty price.
I've spent 2 days on trying to figure out how to print black & white from a colored layout sheet with no success whatsoever. The printing dialogs are dismal compared to Acad for Windows, and Apple's own Ui, especially in ML is not helping either.
How does one pick, import or save as and print to a legacy .ctb or .stb file in that Page setup dialog... where are the options of doing that in the Page Setup or Print dialogs?
This being the 3rd incarnation of a commercial release (and not beta-testing anymore) I wish things would be more easier to find that exploring, adapting and overcoming at every step.
Hi Marcel,
Most questions answered here:
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Nevermind that the UI is entirely different but simple things that irk me to no end, like not being able to rename layouts from bottom ribbon palette (like you can from tabs on WIn), and still not able to rename them upon lauching a completely counter-intuitive window where you have to go to Help to find out that you cannot rename them even there, since for some reason they are created as Default layouts...
Yes, you are right: you can not rename Layouts from Status Bar, but if you are using QuickView Dialog Box ("a completely counter-intuitive window" as you call it) - you can freely to rename all Layouts (except Model) with context menu, or from additional menu at the top right of the dialog, or simply by selecting Layout name under the thumbnail of the Layout and correcting it.
What would I do without you Maxm?
I'm in the process of setting up a Mac-bvased CAD station for an old school design client that does not understand why a prominent software company like Autodesk would take suh a wildly different approach in providing a Mac version of their mainstay Windows software.
Him, like me, based on our long time experience with companies that provide look alike cross-platform solutions, like Adobe and Nemetscheck (Vectorworks), are baffled by the unexpected appoach and quirky implementation of an otherwise quite nifty looking and elegant interface.
Problem is looks without substance or expected consistency from a major program are not of much value to people that have to produce drawings and meet client demands and deadlines for a living.
Best regards and lots of thank you's,
I've been working with AutoCAD since version 14! And I'm shocked when people refer to classic mode, are we really trying to go back to 1992! or even earlier! It's been 20 years!
Imagine if we were still using cellular phones... the old motorola flip phones... have we not evolved with other preferences...
plus who needs UI... Try this hit Command 0, full screen baby! If you need the command line then Command 3...
why take the time to look for buttons when you can simply use keyboard shortcuts that you can customize to your own liking.
I wonder if when we're workig on full size desk tablets people will still be asking for classic mode... hmmmm....
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