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Waitstaff topping off glasses from bottle on the table... [moved from Wine board]
I have a question. I went to dinner w/2 friends last night. I was ordering by the glass, they split a bottle. One friend is a guzzler....so every time the waitress swung by, the guzzler's glass was almost empty and the waitress stopped and refilled it. The other friend was sipping and the end result is she got just over 1 glass out of the bottle. She was a bit peeved and said a firm NO when asked if anyone would like to order another bottle. Is simply refilling the glass of whoever is nearly empty the standard practice? At some point should she have realized she was filling one all the time, and the other never?
re: gourmanda
Ah, so simple and yet I never thought of it...."thanks but we'll pour our own".
re: JaneRI
I guess I don't see the problem. Both people drank at their own pace, the server refilled as needed, and the drunk went home and watched Lifetime !
re: JaneRI
I guess that's the difference between men and women ! I would have grabbed the bottle and polished it off !
re: JaneRI
But presumably if the customers poured their own wine, the guzzler's glass would be filled at the same rate. The only difference is the owner of the hand on the bottle. The problem here is with an inattentive/inconsiderate dining partner, not the waitstaff.
re: mordacity
re: zin1953
>if the customers poured their own wine,
that is a big IF.
if my co-bottle mate is filling my glass, i suppose it is defensible
to guzzle. otherwise, if i am filling my own glass ... well it's the
difference between "give and take".
but i agree for slightly other reasons, it's perfectly reasonable for
the server to refill and empty glass unless a bottle syndicate member
indicates they will do self-help. so the issue here is really the guzzlers
conscious or unconscious lack of consideration for the sipper ... again
of some interest whether he's unaware of bottle syndicate norms or
doesnt care about them, but unware isnt exculpatory.
ok tnx.
I think the proper thing to do would have been for the guzzler to try to match pace with the sipper, or vice-versa. I know I have some friends who are slow drinkers and slow eaters; unless I want to be sitting there empty-handed for 30 minutes, I try to match pace with them and draw out the time we get to spend with each other.
re: JungMann
"I think the proper thing to do would have been for the guzzler to try to match pace with the sipper, or vice-versa"
So one or the other would be discomfited and enjoy their dinner less? Doesn't seem a fine solution.
An adult dining out has the only responsibility for ensuring that they have all the wine, water, coffee, food that they want.
It seems ridiculous, unless a limit was agreed upon earlier, to complain that one didn't get enough wine, when the readily avaialble option is to buy all the wine one wants.
Or you go back to family table rules: you snooze, you lose.
re: FrankJBN
Really? I don't see it that way....if I split a bottle w/a friend, I figure we both are entitled to roughly 50% of that. I don't think I have the right to drink most of it. You say "unless a limit was agreed upon earlier..." To me, when you decide to SPLIT a bottle, a limit is implied.....you each get half. When you split an appie, and a plate comes bearing 4 pieces of something, don't you assume just two of those belong to you by default? Not 3 if you can gobble them down quickly enough?
re: JaneRI
I think it is different with a bottle of wine where one can pour 1 oz into topping up a glass a dozen times and still have a half bottle left.
Plus, I find that when I dine out with friends, no one is interested in whether or not I ate more. I often insist to no avail that I should pay more because I ordered an extra app, or dessert. Apparently many people like to split bills evenly no matter who ate or drank what. I don't, but that's because I recognize my appetite and capacities.
So no, I do not agree that "split" has to mean 50-50. (Point of fact, when I split a 12 pack with certain one of my buddies, I assume he will drink 8 or 9 and I wll drink 3 or 4. We're still splitting it,)
Still and all it is the question of the dynamics of the ongoing meal.
Part of that dynamic is that apparently these two were strangers splitting a bottle since one was known to be a guzzler by the OP, but not by the sipper.
(The same friend I mention above, I have another friend who will not split with him 'He drinks all the dmaned beer himself')
We split a bottle of wine. My glass is refilled by the waiter. Do I now sit until the end of the meal to see if the other party will eventually refill their glass? At the end of the meal, turns out they only wanted one glass, the two remaining glasses would be mine - if I want them with my apple pie.
No, it is not my responsibility to keep track of how much someone else, even my bill-splitting co-diner is eating and drinking. Should I notice the waiter is filling my glass and not the other? Should I assume they are never getting any more of the wine? What does it have to do with me?
Now, if I am pouring the wine, and I notice there is but one glass remaining, it behooves me to ask if the other person wants it (or some of it). But, particularly since the waiter is pouring the wine, how is the drinker going to notice how much wine is left in the bottle and this is crucial.
While we all know how many pieces are half of four pieces, you might be surprised how many people have no conception of how much wine is in a bottle or a glass.
I have to think most people who split a bottle of wine don't know that they get 2 1/2 5 oz glasses out of it. Nor would they know that if 6 ozs are being poured, by the third time one glass is filled, there is nothing left for the other.
re: JaneRI
This situation is roughly like that of the one diner who orders more and more expensive courses when the check is being split. In some cases everyone's OK with it but, more often, some get their noses out of joint over it.
I think the person who allows the server to help them drink most of the wine is being selfish at best. They should at least ask the slower drinker if they're OK with less (they might be). Better would be for them to ask the server to slow down so everyone can enjoy as much as they like. Not everyone is that observant or thoughtful, unfortunately.
re: JaneRI
Jane, you are absolutely correct. Splitting a bottle is 50/50. It's up to the drinker who drinks less to say, "you can finish it off" if they don't want any more. The Guzzler is simply rude. It's definitely NOT a you snooze you lose situation.
re: FrankJBN
"you snooze, you lose?"
hmmm. consider this.
I do not like to eat my food without chewing it. I had a couple over for dinner, my husband prepared the meal. The salad hits the table. The male of the couple dives into his salad as if he is starving. finishes his plate. Takes seconds. Everyone else is still on firsts. He finishes his plate again, and says, "Hey, i'm going to finish this off", then he takes thirds and scrapes out the salad bowl while everyone else at the table is still on their first serving.
That is just plain rude. Make an attempt to match your pace to your seatmates- whether that means speeding up or slowing down a little. We are eating a meal together- not foraging for our lives in the wilds.
re: nummanumma
Not sure changing the pace of eating what's on your own plate is so much the issue, though we're going to agree, ultimately about the outcome. It's just basic manners to keep an eye on how much is in the communal dish and not eat more than a fair share until after others have had the chance to eat an equivalent amount and passed on it.
I think you can eat what's on your own plate as quickly as you'd like....but that doesn't entitle you to everything else on the table. Personally, I can't eat any faster than I do and wouldn't try but I wouldn't expect anyone else to slow down to match me, either.
re: nummanumma
I totally agree nummanumma.....the concept of "you snooze you lose" sounds like animals in the wild when applied to friends & family dining together.
I still say that when you say "let's split" there is a reasonable expectation that each person will get roughly half. It's not a money issue even....it's that I plan my meal and what I order by how much food I'll want or need.....if there are four pieces of an appetizer I don't think I'm out of line by assuming two are mine, and if you're quicker than me you're NOT going to reach for a third.
re: nummanumma
God, numma .... what a rude guest! This person would NEVER be invited back to my house again. (I think I dated this guy in a past life too....) Wasn't his wife horrified? Or just clueless? I would have paused after he finished his second helping and said "there IS an entree! Please dont spoil your appetite!" But I suspect even a remark like that would have gone right over his head.
Wait staff are generally trained to keep all glasses full -- water as well as wine. The advantage -- for them -- is that they work on tips, and if they a) provide good service (e.g.: keeping water [and wine] glassess full, it's perceived as good service and thus tips will increase; and b) they have a better chance of selling a 2nd bottle, thereby increasing the total bill, and thus their tip.
As gourmanda suggests, just say "thank you, but we will pour our own wine".
The server is not a hall monitor. it's your wine, your table, your pace.
Could you imagine the contra-thread to this, "The waiter who wouldn't fill my wine glass when empty"
I think it is about the friendship. If you know your friend is a drinker, then either ask for the bottle to split into two carafes (which says a lot about the friendship), give it up that the friend is worth thirty dollars and order another bottle, or go in knowing that the friend is a guzzler, and order your own. The uncomfortable feelings that come up when you feel like somebody is taking way more than their share, can go way deeper than the bottle of wine. For instance, at your own home, where you may have paid for the whole kit and kaboodle, you most likely wouldn't want to make one person feel like they could only have two glasses of wine, and only at the pace of the slowest drinker, you would buy enough bottles to make sure everybody had enough.
My question - if left to their own devices and the server did not pour or top off wine glasses, would the scenario have been any different? In other words, what would have stopped the "guzzler" from outpacing the "sipper" and filling his/her glass which would still result in an unequal distribution of wine. When I am out with my friends or family, I honestly don't keep track of the pours and yes, I think it is standard practice if the wine is being poured for waitstaff to fill empty glass unless told otherwise. But, if this seems to be a problem, I would have done as the OP and ordered wine by the glass.
re: foodseek
Wow, another cool 'ethics' question and one I never really thought about. I've been out with guzzlers and never kept pace with them. At the end of the night, all of the wine was added to the bill and I with my one or two glasses paid for their one or two bottles each.
On keeping pace with them, I couldn't, I can't. On eating at a pace with a slow diner, I can't do that either.
Interesting, not sure yet how to answer this one.
re: dolores
I think it get's chalked up as lesson learned and don't split a bottle with that person/those persons again. Presuming their company is otherwise enjoyable and I like them, I'll still go out with them but I'd order by the glass or opt for a cocktail instead.
re: foodseek
Very true - it wouldn't have changed a thing.....this is a person we haven't socialized very much w/yet so we weren't quite aware of how big the disparity was.
re: smartie
I'm like that too - I always feel interrupted.....conversation stops while you wait for the stranger to leave the table, etc.
re: smartie
I don't like the server topping off my wine either... I get that it shows good service and all, but sometimes they fill it too frequently and always to the top (I like a little "room" in my glass) and then I usually end up ordering another bottle for the table when I didn't intend to in the first place. I have said before, "thank you, but I prefer to fill my own glass." No problems.
I do agree that it is the waitstaffs job to keep glasses full, and I know many more diners who would be complaining if our waitperson did not come back to refill glasses. So, no, the server should not have been keeping track of who was drinking more.
I do however think that the person guzzling should have maybe slowed down a bit and agree with you that when you "split" a bottle of wine among 2 people, it is generally assumed you are each getting roughly 2 glasses. Once the guzzler was on their 3-4th glass they should have realized they were making a pig of themselves!
With that said, I run into this all the time when I eat out with my whole family. On a good night (or bad, depending on your opnion) DH, Dad and "little" Brother can go through 2 bottles of wine without too much help from me. If I am still eating my dinner and want another glass of wine, since I've had 1 and they finished about 3 each, I simply order another "glass" of wine. Which, your friend could have easily done and still said no to another bottle.
re: SweetPea914
After reading and absorbing all of the replies I see clearly this issue had NOTHING to do w/the server.
re: JaneRI
Yep, probably everything to do with the Guzzler. Even if the bottle had been on the table, it's likely he might have just refilled his own whenever he wanted and drunk most of it anyway. Some people are just oblivious.
If your friend dines with him again, she should order by the glass. I wonder if he'll order an entire bottle for himself.
re: MakingSense
But it goes back to how then does one split the bill? The Guzzlers I've known happily split up the bill equally at the end of the night.
re: dolores
Sadly, the greedy Guzzlers and Gobblers who drink and eat more than anyone else at the table never seem to OFFER to pay more. They're content to split the bill evenly and others get shafted, especially those who don't drink at all.
You know, this has been a big problem in my cirlce...in fact, I've chosen to tighten the circle recently because I couldn't afford my friends ability to drink 3-4 glasses to my 1.
I love wine. I love to drink wine. More importantly I like to savor my wine and savor my meal.
Nothing pisses me off more than ordering a nice bottle of wine while at dinner with friends (I do not make much money but I will splurge on a good bottle-when I do I expect to drink more than 1 glass) and having them just pour pour pou right down their throats before I can finish even one glass. They would then take it upon themselves to order another bottle and still expect me to fork over dough to cover their inability to control their drinking problem. NO more! No thank you...I do not dine or drink with these people anymore.
I do not have a buget to throw good wine down the throat of someone who would be just as happy had it been a bottle of 2-buck-chuck.
I've gone to the point where I've told the server before hand to slow down "that persons" refill to ensure that the rest of the table gets to enjoy the wine too.
It worked...I would prefer to never have to do that again.
I've now just made it a point to only enjoy meals with civilized respectful people who also like to enjoy, and take their time with food and wine...when my civilized friends are unavailable, I have a perfectly fine time dining alone not having to keep one arm around the bottle in fear that it will be guzzled in 5 minutes.
re: tatertotsrock
Thanks - I'm glad I'm not crazy in thinking 'just order more wine' isn't the solution.
re: tatertotsrock
As I have long said -- adjusted for inflation -- what the world needs is a great $10 bottle of wine . . . one that you can enjoy, but is cheap enough that you don't mind opening it for your wine-guzzling/non-wine drinking friends.
Fortunately, they are plentiful.
re: zin1953
Hey Zin,
you show me a resaurant that has a good $10 bottle with a tasting menu to my liking and you'll be my hero.
Anyway, I like my resolution to my problem...dump all useless, guzzling jerks from the table and life is much more pleasant with "fine" bottles of wine...I'm a quality vs quantity gal.
It is also a pain if one would consider ordering by the glass since sometimes a bottle is for sure the way to go.
I buy plenty of great wine for aroung $10 at Silverlake Wine with much happiness...at dinner, not so easy...
re: tatertotsrock
$10 restaurant price? No. $10 retail price? Absolutely!
re: zin1953
C'mon Zin,
I'll say it again :
"you show me a resaurant that has a good $10 bottle with a tasting menu to my liking and you'll be my hero."
I'm in LA and I like good wine with a good meal...much more enjoyable to buy a good bottle alone and take home the rest then eat and drink with useless asses.
Life is much more pleasant and tastey without the.
Off to SHIRO for a good glass and some tastey treats.
re: tatertotsrock
Gee, c'mon, tater tots . . . I'll say it again: $10 bottle in a restaurant? No. $10 retail? Sure!
re: tatertotsrock
'dump all useless, guzzling jerks from the table and life'
Sadly, easier said than done. Good idea, though, for sure.
This is what I do in similar situations- generally the folks who are greedy soon realize it if they need to pour their own. At some point I would have said to the waitress, "thanks, we'll pour ourselves." and let your friend guzzle if need be, but not without being completely aware of it. Other than champagne I almost always pour my own at the table once the bottle is there.
I am assuming your friends ordered a regular-sized bottle of wine which is 750ml, or 25 ounces There are around 5 glasses of wine in a bottle but of course this depends on how big the size of the glass is. What I'm trying to say is 25 ounces is not that much to share and your 'guzzler' must have been drinking faster but I wouldn't say they were out of line. Would the other person who shared the wine have noticed if it were just free tap water that was being refilled?
It sounds to me like your friend shouldn't have spoken for the table just because she's a slower sipper. Perhaps the 'guzzler' wanted to order wine by the glass. Whenever I dine with friends, one person always orders more - another orders less. It works out in the end.
Of course you didn't mention how much the bottle of wine was. If it was outrageously expensive then I could see her being a bit peeved.
re: Beau711
"It sounds to me like your friend shouldn't have spoken for the table just because she's a slower sipper. Perhaps the 'guzzler' wanted to order wine by the glass."
Beau.....huh? How did you make the assumption that my friend "spoke for the table"? It came about as it often does.....2 people looking at similar wines by the glass, not being thrilled w/the choices and one saying "wanna check out the bottles....?"
There are several solutions (be upfront about wanting your 50%, ditch the guzzling friend, etc) and all are valid.....but I think there needs to still be a bit of acknowledgement that if you agree to SPLIT something, roughly 50/50 is what you should count on.
re: JaneRI
You know, I've been avoiding this thread until now when someone hit a nerve. I have about a once-a-month dinner out with a friend of mine. She is a rail thin and doesn't eat much. Likewise, she can't really handle more than a glass and a half of wine. When we go out she always reaches for the wine list and oohs and ahs over each bottle. She asks me if we can "go in on" a particular bottle when I'd be just as happy odering by the glass (or not having wine at all as it frequently gives me a terribe headaches). So we'll get a bottle and she literally micro-sips a glass for the entire evening. The first few times we left a half empty bottle on the table. I wanted another glass but didn't want to seem moochy. Now, I will say to her, "Are you going to want more of this?" and she'll say, "No, I just want this one glass". Next time we go out, I'll remind her that she should probably just get one glass but she'll want to go for the bottle. It's very frustrating because I don't want to be seen as a guzzler, but I can easily handle three of four glasses over a 4 hour period.
re: southernitalian
I'm not sure I understand. If you WANT 3-4 glasses and she's happy w/one....isn't this the perfect situation? Why was half a bottle left behind?
re: JaneRI
Half a bottle was left behind several times because I didn't want to drink more than her. And she didn't want more than a glass. But I wouldn't have ordered a whole bottle if I'd known. Is that weird?
re: southernitalian
Not weird.....but once she made it clear she didn't want more than one glass, I can't see why you'd hesitate to polish off the bottle.
Can I assume she wanted to try something that wasn't available by the glass? You could offer to throw in a few extra $$ for your portion of the wine, but given that she's the one saying she wants a bottle, it's certainly not necessary.
re: JaneRI
Hmm, I don't. Not sure if you can or can't tolerate all that wine, southernitalian, but in that instance, I would sooner polish it off than leave it there. I wouldn't let it happen again, unless I wanted to drink most of the bottle.
Unless you're caught between a rock and a hard place, as I often am.
re: dolores
Three glasses of wine in four hours is hardly a lot of wine, in my book. But I'd just as soon forego it or order by the glass than have to drink what she wants and then feel guilty about not paying for more than half of the bottle. You know what I love most about this site? I love the fact that there's something about the process of writing out something that's been bugging my sort of crystalizes it for me. I've been stressing out over nothing. If she wants to spend $40 for the equivalent of a glass of wine, let her. I won't feel pressure to go in on it any more.
re: southernitalian
Excuse me southernitalian,
but isn't what you described alcohol abuse? How could you just let that poor bottle sit there...all alone...used...incomplete...ah the cruelty!!!
Why not just take the bottle home with you?
It's legal in LA as far as I know.
I just took a half bottle of sake home from K-Zo the other night...they didn't have this one by-the-glass and it was dying to roll around in my mouth with the oysters topped with uni and caviar.
Don't abuse the booze!
Drink it!
re: southernitalian
Do you live in a state where you can't take the bottle with you? Here (nyc) we can take the unfinished, opened bottle home (the restaurant is required to pack it in a special bag thing). (Whether one is comfortable with this is a whole other thread.)
If not, then if you wanted more wine, I don't really see the problem. Your friend (the way you described it) probably wouldn't have cared, yes? If you didn't want more wine, then yes, you all should have been more communicative and decided against a whole bottle.
re: LNG212
Wow, good on NYC. Here in the suburbs of Westchester one can't walk out with an open bottle.
re: dolores
Florida permits an open unfinished bottle to be recorked and taken home. The law was changed, I think, on Jan 1 2007 (or maybe it was 2006).
re: dolores
are you sure? i just assumed the law was for all of new york state; but i'm not positive. (it was new as of maybe last year or 2 years ago.)
re: LNG212
Come to think of it, no I'm not. It was awhile ago that a relative took a bottle of wine out of a restaurant, and it was as if Al Capone had recreated the Valentine Day Massacre.
You're probably right. As I've said, though, whenever wine and dinners that I attend are involved, there usually isn't any left.
I'll have to notice next time there is.
re: LNG212
We have this in RI now too (taking home unfinished wine)....law is new this yr or last.
re: JaneRI
I live in NC and I'm almost positive you can't do that but that would have only made it worse. i was deliberately not having more so we would have drunk the same amount. It wouldn't look good for me to cork up the bottle and walk out with it.
re: southernitalian
actually you can take home an open bottle of wine in NC. Just be sure it is in the trunk or in an otherwise apparet area so it is not perceived as open container.
re: JaneRI
"She was a bit peeved and said a firm NO when asked if anyone would like to order another bottle"
Hi JaneRI - I made the assumption that your friend spoke for the table by your original post.
re: Beau711
I think we're not communicating properly Beau. That was for a 2nd bottle - she didn't speak for the table either time....it was mutually agreed upon to order the bottle - so she didn't speak for the table that time. The 2nd time she was asked by The Guzzler (as was I) if anyone would like to order bottle #2. She said a firm NO speaking for herself; the Guzzler was free to order another bottle by herself if she cared to. (or another indiv glass).
re: JaneRI
Hi JaneRI - thanks for clarifying.
re: JaneRI
Your friend was in the awkward position that many of us find ourselves in sometimes.
It's hard to say,"Hey, slow down! I'm going to want another glass of that bottle we're supposed to be splitting." Guzzlers and pigs rarely realize what they're doing and when you call them on it, they act clueless, like they're the offended party.
Some of them never seem to learn. Behavior patterns? The way they were raised at family dinner tables?
Unless it was made clear 'we are going to split the bill 50/50 on the wine' - why didn't the friend suggest just chipping in for her 1 glass portion?
I've encountered this on many occasions, and the 1 glass person chips in their amount. I roughly figure 4 glasses per bottle -- so the 1 glass person would pay 1/4th.
If she's peeved about feeling taken advantage of, she must speak up. The guzzler was likely not paying attenton to how much the other person was drinking -- especially if it was the waiter topping them off and not them pouring it themselves.
I'm surprised the waitress didn't 'top off' the sippers glass at the same time she filled the almost empty one. My experience has been the empty glass is filled and the sipped on glass is topped off a little as well.
re: The Oracle
Oracle, I agree 100% about the need to speak up - I consider myself pretty upfront and yet it's awkward in practice, in real life. Since splitting everything evenly becomes the norm once you get past a certain age (and presumably a certain level of income) you'd be branded a cheapskate if you said "how about if I just give $XX since I only drank XX?" It SHOULDN'T but that's how most of us would feel I guess.
re: JaneRI
I totally agree with you JaneRI; if two people agree to share a bottle, it absolutely means 50/50, fairly shared.
I also agree about speaking up. If the person who drinks slowly notices that she/he is about to get less wine, they should say something like: "I am sorry, but even though I drink more slowly than you, I would really like to consume my half of the bottle".
And if the faster drinker notices she/he has consumed her/his half already, and still wants more, that person should order a new glass of wine for herself/himself, and let the friend finish the bottle. (= Good manners/being considerate)
It's funny, we just had a situation like that, in a very nice restaurant. Three people shared a bottle of fantastic wine. One of us was the slow drinker. I was so focused on our fun discussion that I did not notice that our (otherwise fantastic) waiter poured for me and the other "fast" drinker, but did not pour more for the slow drinker. Thankfully, the slow drinker -after first being stunned- soon let us know what had happened, so I grabbed the bottle and poured for her. Maybe the staff saw what I did, because after that the pours were fair.
From past experiences (too many of the kind), my husband and I have learned to (most of the time) keep a very watchful eye on how the server pours the wine -no matter how fancy the restaurant.
Actually, in more casual places we immediately let the servers know that we prefer to pour our own wine.
In more formal places, we sometimes do the same. Or we act like "orchestra directors", showing with a little waive of the hand when the pour -in our mind- is enough, or not enough. We do it with a smile and as politely as possible, sometimes joking about it.
Or sometimes we just say: "Could you please pour a little more for her/him", if a slow drinker got a smaller pour.
We are polite, but firm. I know some servers do not like this, but frankly; I really do not care: This is our money, our evening, we are in charge.
We learned the hard way: too many times a server has poured the last of a gorgeous and expensive wine into one glass only, leaving the other diners totally stunned and very disappointed -and silently angry. Those kinds of pours are rude and in our mind just a way to try to make the table order another bottle. Which we often do, but more often than not, we order another wine.
Such a tricky subject!
I have been both the guzzler and the sipper. If you know you're friends are guzzlers and you're a sipper- you might want to consider ordering by the glass or speak up for yourself (could be awkward, I realize). Recently, I have noticed a lot of places who charge by the glass price out so that 4 glasses = 1 bottle.
On the other hand, when I eat out with my Mother- we both know she will baby 1/2 glass of wine all through our meal- and I will drink the rest of the bottle on my own. Sometimes we just let our waiter know this is how it's going to go down, and sometimes I poor for myself.
if i was your server...
i would try to equally pour, but it's tricky when one person is drinking way faster than the other. first refill i would top up the sipper's a bit and pour that same amount into the guzzlers glass. next refill i would pick up the bottle and ask the sipper if she was "good" before refilling the guzzler's. it's improper to keep topping up a glass that doesn't need it. the server probably thought the sipper was just not a big drinker.
re: dbug31
I'm a server, and a guzzler. I don't top off wine for my customers precisely because I am a guzzler. And when I go out to eat with my friends, most of whom are also current or former servers, we either order so much wine that it doesn't matter, or we bring our own bottles and suffer the corking fee: one bottle per person, no one can complain. To answer the OP, not a server issue at all.
To gluttony!
I'd love to see a gender break-down of where everyone stands on this thread.
I'm a sipper but I'm also a marathoner, and I think if she didn't want to order another bottle AND wanted more wine (you left that part out), she doesn't have cause for peevishness. I see how there's a pay to play issue, but there were some many other issues here, most importantly your friend asserting herself at the table, than the wait staff refilled an empty glass. In vino vici!
re: sailormouth
" I think if she didn't want to order another bottle AND wanted more wine (you left that part out)"
No, I didn't leave that out - I said she didn't want to order another bottle - and her reasoning for that is she didn't want to once again pay for half the bottle only to get 1/4 of it. Others above DID agree w/me....when you agree to SPLIT something, there is an expectation that there will be a roughly 50/50 split.
You mentioned gender - is this a male thing, thinking "you snooze you lose" is customary when splitting.
re: JaneRI
Gender has nothing to do with this situation, in my opinion. I'm a guy. I think when you order a bottle with someone, you should until told otherwise, keep an eye on how much of it you're drinking and try not to drink more than about half. I also think that speaking up if you're on the other end of the deal is important because the "guzzler" may have no clue that they're drinking that much more than the other person and it can also be hard to keep track during a meal and a conversation. Saying "oh, make sure to save me a second glass" or some such thing wouldn't be at all out of line. My experience suggests that the response from the "guzzler" would more than likely be something along the lines "oh my gosh, I'm sorry, I didn't realize you were still on your first."
Relationships have everything to do with it. The closer you are with someone the easier it ought to be to say "hey, don't hog all the wine." But interactions are complex and it's difficult to know what to say and when to say it in situations like the one described by the OP. Trying to navigate such social things is hard and, especially the first time you come up against it, I think it's best to learn the lesson and make sure it doesn't happen again.
re: JaneRI
My question was more to the did she want more wine rather than did she want to order another bottle and split it without getting her fair end of it? Would the guzzler been able to drink another half bottle of wine?
I'm not saying that it is or isn't a gender thing, just curious.
I agree that there is an expectation of getting about half of it, but I think it's more her responsibility that she get what she thinks is fair rather than the staff or even the guzzler, who may have been a little clueless or just rude. There are also times when I've split a bottle (or food, for that matter) with someone else and one of us likes it a lot and the other really doesn't.
Why didn't you say something at the time?
What I don't understand is why the sipper didn't just pour herself more wine once she saw what was happening. I don't think that the guzzler is at fault here -- it doesn't seem like she drank more of the bottle on purpose, and if you asked her, she probably has no idea that she drank more wine than the sipper. The sipper needed to be more assertive and not just sit there and get irritated about not having enough wine.
re: JasmineG
I guess it's a matter of opinion but I still think that when you split w/somebody you expect to get half....not 3/4 or more.
I DID revise my opinion from my original post ....when I was pondering the idea that the server might have something to do w/it.
re: JaneRI
Sure, you expect to get half, but you can't just sit there and not drink your wine and see the rest of your wine being drunk by someone else and then get mad about it. If you want half of the bottle, you have to say "Save some for me!" or pour your own wine. Unless the guzzler was doing this on purpose (which it doesn't seem like he or she was, given that the waiter was pouring), I'm not sure how this is anyone's fault but the sipper's for not speaking up for herself.
re: JasmineG
The sipper didn't pour herself more because there was still wine in her glass, presumably enough that if she had poured herself more her glass would have been full instead of filled to the normal 6-oz line. As far as gender goes, the way my friends and I arrived at the conclusion to each bring our own bottle was because I, a female, told my male friend that I wasn't going to pay for his extra glasses and neither should the rest of use at the table, both male and female. Now we each have our own bottle, and when he's done, he's done, while we get to keep enjoying our wine. Takes a woman to arrive at so diplomatic a conclusion, I'd say! :)
re: ctscorp
So the sipper still had 6 ounces of wine in her glass when the guzzler had already had almost the rest of the bottle? I'm sorry, but the sipper needs to not order a bottle of wine with someone if she's going to drink that slowly.
re: JasmineG
are you familiar with the famous case of "market for lemons"? ob google.
On the Dining with Boors and the Adverse Selection Problem ...
let's take a table of 4 wine drinkers. person 1 knows he drinks slower
than average, so he opts out of the group wine order.
seeing somebody opt out of the group wine order, you suspect he's
taking a slow sipper dive, so it is reasonable to suspect the avg guzzling
rate of the remaining 3 has just gone up. now being an average sipper,
you find yourself in relatively cutthroat company you opt out of the bottle
rat race as well. seeing people striking the lonely "by the glass" road to
his right and left, any risk averse moderate guzzler should fear it's just him
an a super guzzler ... knowing this, he also drops out ...
anyway, that is just crazy. again with an infinitely divisible good like
wine there are some theoretical differences perhaps, but i believe
the "pizza norm" holds. if you and your two associate order a large pizza,
you're all roughly entitled to a third of the pizza. if somebody does something
like not eat his crusts but takes half the slices at his accelerated rate, that is a
norm violation. he doesnt have to eat the crusts but when exceeding your one
third share you should hold off.
of the questions presented, only one seems difficult:
1. not the waiters fault.
2. the guzzler is a boor
3. the hard question is what to do about the boor.
sub question to #3: should the OP as a "third party" w.r.t to the bottle
get involved. obviously that depends on situational factors [as is the
question of how to split the check between the OP drinking by the glass
and the bottle coalition]
frankly i think there are a huge number of threads where it's obvious
the principal in the hypothetical is a boor and the only question is how to
deal with the person. i'm surprised at how much reticence there is to
call the person a boor up front [in the the original thread posting, not
to his face at the table]... since these are inevietable phrased as
"does behavior X seem leem to you" instead of "how would you deal with
lamer X who did Y". [although given the number of people who do chime
in to defend what i consider indefensible, maybe i'm the one out to lunch.
i guess it is an interesting question how people analyze these situations ...
intuitition? golden rule? dogmatic adherence to a corpus of manner/etiquette
rules, the heavyweight machinery of moral philosophy [lockean proviso],
economic analysis?]
ok tnx.
re: psb
'golden rule? dogmatic adherence to a corpus of manner/etiquette
rules, the heavyweight machinery of moral philosophy [lockean proviso],
economic analysis?]'
All of the above when the group is family or friends to whom one apparently can't speak up.
Yes, been there, drank little in comparison, but paid an equal share of the bill.
Still a sticky situation after all these posts, and I'm not sure there is an absolute solution for everyone.
You know, I'm curious as to how long this dinner went on. If the sipper was sipping the same glass for an hour or longer, say, then she isn't sharing either. . .she's being hostile by indicating that the other party has to slow down to her speed. Sounds like these 2 have learned not to share a bottle of wine.
re: gourmanda
You know, I feel I have to respond. You have made some baseless assumptions that I won't let go unremarked upon. She wasn't sipping a glass for an hour or longer - why would you assume that? We WERE there a total of perhaps an hour or longer, but the guzzler polished off 3/4 of the bottle in about 20 minutes. Still think the sipper is "hostile"?
re: JaneRI
I did not assume, I wondered. And now you have answered the question. And I agree that 3 or so glasses consumed in 20 minutes is a lot.


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For MONTHS after it's been delayed, over and over again Rockstar Games released another trailer of the game – probably to tease. I think we've been teased enough, we want to play.
For MONTHS after it's been delayed, over and over again Rockstar Games released another trailer of the game – probably to tease. I think we've been teased enough, we want to play.
Oh No…i am sure some of you fans out there must be disappointed. The game, Grand Theft Auto IV has been delayed to 2008 due to some technical improvements they're doing to the game.
The overcrowded monkey house that was the 2007 holiday release schedule lost one of its 800-pound gorillas today. Without warning, this afternoon Take-Two Interactive stunned the game industry by announcing it was delaying Grand Theft Auto IV to the second quarter of its 2008 fiscal year, which begins on February 1, 2008. Published by Take-Two subsidiary Rockstar Games, the crime-action title had been slated to ship for the Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3 in North America on October 16, 2007.
"Certain elements of development proved to be more time-intensive than expected, especially given the commitment for a simultaneous release on two very different platforms," said Take-Two chairman Strauss Zelnick in a statement.
Unsurprisingly, not having GTA IV in its 2007 fiscal-year lineup has put a serious dent in Take-Two's earnings expectations. The company's guidance is now for net revenue of $950 million to $1.0 billion for the 12 months ending October 31, and a loss of $1.25 to $1.35 per share. That figure is over $200 million lower than prior estimates of $1.2 billion to $1.25 billion in annual revenue–which would have been "break even results" according to the company's second-quarter earnings statement. With the AO-rated Manhunt 2 on indefinite hold, Take-Two now expects net revenue between $275 million to $300 million for its fourth fiscal quarter, with a net loss of $0.05 to $0.10 per share.
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- Address:
339 York Blvd
Hamilton, ON L8R 3K5Neighborhood:
- Cuisine:
Gastro PubPrice: CAN$30 and under
- Dining Style: Casual Dining
- Website: http://www.stonewallshamilton.com/
- Phone: (905) 577-0808
- Hours of Operation:
Breakfast: Saturday - Sunday: 11:00 AM - 2:00 PM;
Lunch: Monday - Friday: 11:30 AM - 5:00 PM, Saturday - Sunday: 11:00 AM - 5:00 PM;
Dinner: Daily: 5:00 PM - 8:00 PM
- Payment Options: AMEX,MasterCard,Visa
- Cuisine: Steak, Burgers, Gastro Pub
- Executive Chef: Greg Kulig
- Dress Code: Casual Dress
- Accepts Walk-Ins: Yes
- Additional Details: Banquet/Private Rooms, Bar Dining, Bar/Lounge, Beer, Counter Seating, Dancing, Entertainment, Farm to Table, Full Bar, Late Night, Non-Smoking Restaurant, Patio/Outdoor Dining, Private Room, Smoking Area, Smoking Area (patio only), Takeout, Wheelchair Access, Wine
- Catering: Can accommodate any function up to 200.
- Private Party Facilities: Stonewalls is available for any of your large party needs, Weddings, Engagement Parties, Bar Mitzvahs, we do it all!
- Private Party Contact: Dennis 9055770808
- Entertainment: Stonewalls sets the scene for sports events with a 120-inch HD screen, fourteen 50" HD plasma TVs and surround sound. Winner of the Best Live Music Venue, our establishment includes a large stage and features artist's such as two time Juno Award winner Jack DeKeyzer, Tomi Swick, Groove Corporation, Rival Sons, Jesse O'Brien and many more. Stonewalls is also proud to be the recipient of an award for Best team trivia night.
- Special Events: Wedding Receptions, Bar Mitzvah, Bat Mitzvah, Birthdays, Christmas Parties, etc.
A word from Stonewalls
Stonewalls Restaurant elegant décor and high end food coupled with a modern "sports bar" approach makes Stonewalls a destination comfortable for everyone. Choose from a menu which provides gourmet meals served alongside traditional comfort foods. Features include a variety of international dishes, seafood, homemade gourmet burgers and steaks from fresh certified angus beef and our Gold Medal Award winning fresh cut fries.Continued
br> Stonewalls sets the scene for sports events with a 120-inch HD screen, fourteen 50" HD plasma TV"s and surround sound. Winner of the Best Live Music Venue, our establishment includes a large stage and features artist's such as two time Juno Award winner Jack DeKeyzer, and many more. Stonewalls is also proud to be the recipient of an award for their team trivia night. Whether you are looking for lunch or dinner, live music, or a fun evening out with your family/friends, no one does it better than Stonewalls restaurant...Where it's all good!
br> Stonewalls sets the scene for sports events with a 120-inch HD screen, fourteen 50" HD plasma TV"s and surround sound. Winner of the Best Live Music Venue, our establishment includes a large stage and features artist's such as two time Juno Award winner Jack DeKeyzer, and many more. Stonewalls is also proud to be the recipient of an award for their team trivia night. Whether you are looking for lunch or dinner, live music, or a fun evening out with your family/friends, no one does it better than Stonewalls restaurant...Where it's all good!
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Stonewalls reviews from OpenTable diners
- firsttimerDined on 7/4/2014Great venue to watch a band, the service was great, BUT the food was terrible, very small portions and not tasty at all, I suggest eating ahead of time, and going down for a few drinks and watch a band great venue for it.I would recommend this to a friend.
- Neighbourhood find.Localfoodie72Dined on 5/17/2014Great food. Great entertainment. Awesome service.Special Features:I would recommend this to a friend.
- Disappointed could have been betterNothardtopleaseDined on 5/3/2014We had reservations and were seated quickly. While waiting for friends who had travelled quite a distance, we ordered drinks and an appetizer. Our friends barely touched their burgers. One member of our group asked for food to be re-heated. Another member's food, the same entree, was the the total opposite and steaming hot. Consistency and serving temperature need improvement. Hard to get the attention of our server at the end of our experience.Special Features:
- Very Loud!FiremanbobDined on 4/11/2014We stopped in on the way to a concert. The menu on Event Night as we found out is very limited. It is more of a bar scene than a restaurant. For younger diners with better ears this might be a better choice.
- Was very dissappointed toOpenTable Diner Since 2014Dined on 4/11/2014Was very dissappointed to have to choose from a limited menu.Chose Stonewalls to try the Saganaki and Antojitos and couldn't. It was very very busy ,but the servers seemed to be more interested in serving the people on the patio.I am assuming that the mangement knew how busy it was going to be with Black Sabbath being in town and didn't have enough staff. Will not be back noe will I recommend Stonewalls to anyone.
- Reading with SandeesammerDined on 4/10/2014Worked out great. Ordered an app and a nice salad each. Sandee came over for a reading, so the choice of a salad was perfect. Waitress was really friendly.Special Features:I would recommend this to a friend.
- amazingheideDined on 3/28/2014Enjoyed every moment every time I come there to watch Sarah Smith and darcy Feaver perform. The waitress was always on top of taking very good care of our table of ten. Thank you again will be backSpecial Features:I would recommend this to a friend.
- Birthday at StonewallsOpenTable Diner Since 2014Dined on 3/23/2014Took my daughter (age 22) and 8 people for her birthday. It was a Sunday evening, so relatively quiet. First visit and just walking in looked very nice. Seated quickly(had reservations) Asked for appetizer before drinks and both came very quickly. Staff was very accomodating re:table for gifts, cake arrangements(added candles) was not rushed to order, but when we finally did the food came promptly. Everyone was pleased with serving size and quality. Shay (spelling?) was our server and she was GREAT. Friendly, polite and efficient, and patient with our special requests. Band was i little too loud for the size of the venue, but the lead singer/guitarist impressed us with "cold hearted woman". Overall good time, would recommend easily.Special Features:I would recommend this to a friend.
- For the most part our experienceOpenTable Diner Since 2013Dined on 3/22/2014For the most part our experience was good- there was a bit of a communication breakdown & we waited a while before we got our appetizer & when we did get it our dinner came about 5 minutes later. We asked our server to take back the dinner & we were told we would get a fresh dinner but the sole I had was luke warm. It wasn't the servers fault but we spoke to the owner & he apologised & gave us a drink each on the house. Rest of the night was good & we enjoyed the band playing that night.Special Features:
- First time, will returnMikeCDined on 3/15/2014Visited for first time. Menu is ok, typical bar food. Wine list is disappointing, beer menu is ok. Venue is great for a gathering of friends, in a large updated pub environment. Went on a Saturday, busier after 9 pm, which was fun. Good band, big dance floor. Would visit again in a group, but not great for a 1-1 date. Disappointed that menu was small and really geared to pub food, nothing special. Service was good. Not a foodie joint, but a good location for groups...Special Features:
- don't goniteoutDined on 3/8/2014Had a 5:30 reservation before the Bulldogs game. Restaurant was almost empty. Poor service (waitress did not know wine options - brought wrong wine to the table). Ordered nachos with chicken, chicken was missing. Food was terrible (dry, flavourless nachos, skimpy salad, poorly seasoned rice). Check was $100 - should have gone down the street to Quiznos or Swiss Chalet. Will never return. Will not recommend the restaurant to others.
- Stonewall's on a Friday night.JackieAnnDined on 3/7/2014The food is good, but the menu is not particularly vegetarian friendly. If I did not also eat fish, there was hardly any entree that I would be able to order. The portion size is good, and the prices are average, sometimes a little higher than average, but the service was very good.Special Features:I would recommend this to a friend.
- Valentines dayOpenTable Diner Since 2014Dined on 2/14/2014My wife and I recently attended Stinewall's and found it to be a very lovely experience. We arrived for some drinks and discovered the band that was playing was a high energy cover band of a popular 80's band we both enjoyed. It was a very good time.Special Features:I would recommend this to a friend.
- Parking IssuesOpenTable Diner Since 2012Dined on 2/12/2014Allowing cars to park in the middle of the parking lot, with no lines to guide the drivers, creates a real problem for cars parked along the sides of the parking lot to get out. One of our group had great difficulty backing out of her spot because the cars parked in the middle of the lot were too close to enable her to back her car out safely. I urge the management to look at this issue. The restaurant is satisfactory, but the parking issue has resulted in our group of diners deciding that we won't return to Stonewalls.
- Things to workOpenTable Diner Since 2014Dined on 2/7/2014Wine list is very poor, very limited and what us offered is bad wine. This is an easy fix. Our Calamari was awful. It was cold and dripping in grease. However, it's a great venue for a band and somewhere to dance.Special Features:I would recommend this to a friend.
- loved the food,everythingconcertmomDined on 2/7/2014loved the food,everything tasted fresh and flavourful Was there for a pre concert meal and arrived at 4:45 -only thing is that I felt we were being rushed out the doorSpecial Features:I would recommend this to a friend.
- disappointednothppyDined on 2/1/2014Half the main dish menu was either no longer an option or they didn't have in stock at 5pm on a Sat. night The wait staff have no communication skills between them because they kept screwing up our drink orders because 2 were serving our table at the same time
- nicerubyDined on 1/25/2014love the rockabilly shows! So exciting! NIce ambiance, cheap ticket prices, very happy with experience. Bathrooms nice and clean! Food great! Nice stage, great music!Special Features:I would recommend this to a friend.
- great venueJasperDined on 12/20/2013great time at Steve Strongman's' Xmas Party. dancing, food,drinks were very good as was the wait-staff. Had my Birthday bash here in February and everyone really had a great time.Special Features:I would recommend this to a friend.
- great find!OpenTable Diner Since 2013Dined on 12/13/2013everyone in a group of 9 loved the food! will become a favourite and looking forward to trying breakfast.Special Features:I would recommend this to a friend.
- Will now be a restaurant of choiceStaffparttyDined on 12/10/2013Certainly worth taking family and friends to for a lovely meal. Staff are friendly and prices good. One in our group said it was the best steak he had ever had.Special Features:I would recommend this to a friend.
- food good...communication not so3soupsDined on 12/5/2013communication between kitchen and wait staff not good. Ordered one soup....later told they had run out...ordered the alternative...when it came it was yet another kind of soup. Waitress was good ...personable... offered to make amends for mix ups. Entertainment was fantastic. Ruth Sutherland and Doug Feaver.Special Features:
- Great place for a get togetherOpenTable Diner Since 2013Dined on 12/4/2013Great place for a get together - especially love the large booths where you can sit and talk to everyone at your table. The food is always great - never had a bad experience since coming when it opened. I also like it because of the fact that it entertains an older crowd and families - something missing in Hamilton - if you don't like fast food restaurants. We have a group of friends that meet on a regular basis and Stonewalls has been our restaurant of choice for the past few years - easy to find and lots of FREE parking gives a thumbs up to this establishment.Special Features:I would recommend this to a friend.
- Feed backHottieDined on 11/21/2013Croutons for your excellent salads instead of the slice of homemade bread. We could not cut or eat the bread as it was to hard..everything else was excellent and we will return and recommend it as a must dine experience !!! Shea was a amazing waitress and provided the best of service .. Kindest regards. Hottie. :)Special Features:I would recommend this to a friend.
- Guys NightOpenTable Diner Since 2013Dined on 11/9/2013A unch of Guys who grew up together getting together to reminess about the past present and future. We had a great time everyone enjoyed their meals. Portions were perfect and cost was where it should be. Overall we spent about 3 hours and enjoyed the the night.Special Features:I would recommend this to a friend.
- not what we expectedChelsDined on 11/9/2013It was a busy night for the restaurant however service was quite poor! Had a reservation so we were seated quickly but then waited close to 20 minutes to be acknowledged and another 15 for drink orders to be taken which we had to basically flag someone down for. Food was the saving grace, all 4 of us enjoyed our meals and were quite pleased (& surprised) how good it was. Despite the great location to Copps, until they learn how to handle a full restaurant we won't be returning for a while.Special Features:
- Awesome!GrootyDined on 11/9/2013Nov 9/13 at 4pm prior to the Dixie Chicks concert was our first visit to Stonewalls. Pleasantly surprised with the great customer service from the hostess, the abundance of food that tasted fantastic (try the garlic bread/bun with cheese - this was a meal in itself and delicious), and the friendly waitresses that kept asking if we needed anything else. We have already looked on their website to check out music engagements to go back for the entertainment and another meal. Thanks Stonewalls for a great experience.Special Features:I would recommend this to a friend.
- Not an quiet spot for dinnerhamiltongirlDined on 11/8/2013Myself and five friends attended Stonewalls to have dinner prior to a show at Hamilton Place. We arrived after having made reservations to the restaurant and found that we were placed in the middle of two large parties when their were several empty booths. They moved us after consultation amongst themselves. The service was incredibly slow, taking over 20 minutes to get our drinks. The restaurant is loud, to the point that we had to yell to one another to converse - and this was only 6:00 pm at night. At the end of the meal, the waitress gave us our bills and they were all incorrect but we were late for our 8:00 pm show so we just passed money around to one another. We will not be returning to this restaurant.
- good spottomdDined on 10/26/2013great spot very well kept and the food was excellent we are definitely going backSpecial Features:
- Has reservations prior tonorsehorseDined on 10/17/2013Has reservations prior to a concert. Food was very good, however service was terrible. Waitress would not seat us a booth even though many unoccupied during our stay. After drink orders she tried to rush into our meal orders, then basically ignored us when we chose not to be rushed.Special Features:
- Great Thanksgiving SpreadempeadeeDined on 10/14/2013Two course Thanksgiving meal was delicious and included all the fixings for great value at $15.99. Stonewalls came through when we were in a pinch.Special Features:I would recommend this to a friend.
- Food was good / Ambiance relaxingChrisDined on 10/14/2013Thanks for providing my family with a great meal on Thanksgiving Monday. My parents were visiting from out of town and we all had a great time and enjoyed the food. The waitress was very friendly and the kitchen made sure all the food was served hot and at its best.Special Features:I would recommend this to a friend.
- Overall was great, howeverMommyShaw2Dined on 10/11/2013Overall was great, however the band was TOO loud, we were at the back and still couldn't carry a one on one conversationSpecial Features:
- Nice Bar, ok foodLogitechDined on 10/4/2013Waitress was good, place was friendly atmosphere. There was two of us, so ate at the elevated bar tables. Booths are big, good for big groups but not good for 2-4 diners. We had the Bruschetta for appetizer (disappointing), followed by the fish and chips (Okay). Drinks were fair priced and good quality. It is a bar, not a restaurant. Would I go back for the music, drinks Yes, Would I go back for the food - No.Special Features:
- Saturday evening dinningTank2kVIPDined on 9/28/2013We arrived early and had our choice of seats. Our hostess was pleasant and professional. We order and enjoyed a superb meal, I had fish and chips which was excellent! My wife had the Chicken Pot Pie and the chunks of chicken were huge, its was hot and tastey
- Loved StonewallsKarenDined on 9/14/2013Was pleasantly surprised with everything. Loved the band that played (Fleetwood Mix) they were amazing. Food was excellent.Special Features:
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While the initial plans had him working a match against Sin Cara, WWE may have changed their mind on how to use Rey Mysterio at Wrestlemania 30. There are those within the company that are now leaning towards him working a match against Alberto Del Rio with his mask on the line.
While watching Royal Rumble 2014, Rikishi expressed his frustration with WWE by posting a message on Twitter. He asked what the company was doing with his sons, Jimmy Uso and Jey Uso. He also stated that the "writers suck" and ended the statement with "bullshit".
Alexander Rusev, the developmental wrestler who made his debut at Royal Rumble 2014, was trained by Rikishi. His relationship with the former WWE star helped help progress in the industry a lot quicker than a lot of other guys who have tried to make it to the main roster.
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It wouldn't be the Fourth of July without the celebration of a fireworks display in the night sky. But for your pets, the holiday can be a frightening nightmare.
Some animals aren't bothered by the sights and sounds of fireworks. But others are terrified, becoming nervous, upset, and stressed. Unlike humans, animals have a keener sense of hearing, and the unexpected explosion of fireworks—whether a simple backyard celebration or a huge, professional production—can cause panic in dogs, cats, horses, and even birds.
What we consider patriotic can be terrifying to our pets. We urge all pet owners to give extra attention to ensure their animals are safe and protected during Fourth of July celebrations. Because some pets, especially dogs, can become more sensitive to sounds like thunder or fireworks as they age, even an animal that hasn't reacted in previous years could become unexpectedly fearful.
Dr. Julie Ryan Johnson, an experienced animal-shelter veterinarian and past president of the Southern California Veterinary Medical Association, says July 5 th is the busiest day of the year for animal shelters. "Because some dogs will panic from the loud fireworks and bolt through windows or other enclosures and run away, it is critical that pet owners make sure their animals have secure visual identification on them," she said.
Some of the common signs that your pet is spooked by fireworks include: shaking and trembling; barking and howling; excessive drooling; attempting to hide; refusing food; and trying to leap a fence or escape from a house or other enclosure.
The sounds and sights of fireworks cause problems for horses as well. Frightened horses have been known to run through or jump fences, resulting in serious injuries, lacerations, or impalement.
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This beautiful Vermont farmhouse is available for rent on a per night basis. Situated in a valley between the Green Mountains in Ira, VT on a working horse farm, this house is a perfect getaway from city life.
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WBBC is dedicated to quality camping for people of all ages regardless of background. Our goal is a Christ-centred program conducive to spiritual, physical and social development. Established in 1944, West Bank Bible Camp is supported by the Southern Saskatchewan Mennonite Brethren and other interested churches. All camp fees go directly to the support of the summer camp program. The remaining costs of the summer, capital expenditures and improvements are solely dependent upon the free will donations of individuals or groups. W.B.B.C. is a non-profit organization.
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An application for S(ervant) I(n) T(raining) at West Bank Bible Camp is available here. Also, please fill out the staff medical form here. These applications will be accepted beginning January 1st and the closing date for application will be April 30th. Call 773-6815 for more details.
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School Trip? Family Reunion? Retreat? Picnic? Check out West Bank! Spring, Summer, Fall.
Camp facilities include a Dining Hall (with fireplace), fully equipped kitchen, Cabin Space for 10-110 as well as five R.V. sites with electricity. The pool is, unfortunately, out of service for this year. We have great rates, a beautiful setting and a variety of recreational options available (i.e. climbing wall, archery, zipline, canoeing, etc.)
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They've learned how to build a large orbiting modular space station, and how to perform on-orbit repairs and maintenance. Pretty essential skills for any serious extra-orbital missions, I'd imagine.
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Now go quietly back to what you were doing and stop causing trouble
Apollo 11 vets urge Mars mission
Give the private sector a hand
Surprisingly, only a couple of people have mentioned the private sector. Several companies are now getting close to having a private manned capability to reach low Earth orbit, and heavy lift to LEO is clearly in the private sector's reach. What NASA needs to do is continue basic research into cutting edge technologies that can help us get into and through space more easily, and promote the boring stuff like a positive legislative and investment environment.
There shouldn't be any need for NASA to build new rockets to reach orbit. Use the private sector and build interplanetary craft in LEO. The ISS has shown we could do that, even if we're still working on the plumbing.
And one last thing. Stop trying to go it alone, Merkins. Interplanetary exploration is way to expensive for any single nation to build anything more than a flag-waving exercise, even the Chinese. Look how hard it's been to keep the ISS funded, and imagine that scaled up to a Moon or Mars mission. Obama's right to think the Constellation/Ares programme is just another Bush propaganda exercise, but with some imagination he could turn it around.
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