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What's the 2nd best sandwich place in DC?
I've been struggling with a question that a friend (who is very much DC savvy) asked me recently. After Breadline--I think most would agree this is the city's best sandwich spot, quality of bread, etc.--what's the next best option? My fear is that everything else blends together in a mediocre mass much behind breadline but hopefully I'm forgetting something. This is very much a chowhound question--so can't be any type of chain unless maybe a smaller local one. Different way to think about it: you're headed to the airport for a long flight and it's Saturday (so Breadline is closed). Where do you go to get carry-on sandwiches that'll take your mind off the horrible state of air travel and airport food?
re: Dennis S
I'll second The Italian Store, but add a caveat. If you've never eaten one of their sandwiches, and you can't give the assembler personalized instructions, ask for some of the condiments to be put in little plastic containers rather than on the sandwich. For example, I like a bit of hot pepper on my sandwich, but the assemblers always put more on than I prefer. And I'm not a fan of the sweet peppers. I just don't like sweet with meat. If I were to eat my first Italian Store hoagie done up the standard way, I would wonder why everyone is a fan of the place. When I customize my IS hoagie, it's a treat.
re: Dennis S
Interesting--both the reccs and the stance on Breadline. Do you like something (anything) better inside DC? Have you found a place with better bread inside the District?
re: nwdchound
I like Breadline's bread fine, but also like Firehooks though I see you're not a fan of the latter.
re: Dennis S
where is German Gourmet? sounds good!
re: lindsay_r
Google "german gourmet falls church va" to get some results. For some reason it's showing three locations, but I only know of 2. I've only been to the original location which is on 29 south of Broad St. in Falls Church (probably 1/2 mile from Broad).
The newer location that I know of is in the Bailey's X-Roads area, and is apparently much larger (where you can't hardly get smaller than the original location).
re: Dennis S
German Gourmet on Washington St in FC aka RT 29 closed quite some time ago..the one on Columbia pike in Baileys is a lot roomier.
German Gourmet
5838 Columbia Pike, Falls Church, VA 22041
Agree with Italian Store. I'm a Philadelphia native and these are truly good hoagies. Get a soft roll, not a hard one.
Other places that get a lot of good buzz on their subs are A. Literi's and Mangialardo's.
There are great sandwiches at Marvellous market - branches at Georgetown, Dupont Circle and - I think, Foggy Bottom - their brownies are also fantastic, the pumpkin muffins are to die for - and more or less all the cakes are totally delicious.
Also try the Firehook bakery - they also do fabulous pecan sandies and other cookies and muffins etc.
re: crackers
Yup, Deli City corned beef is probably the best sandwich in town -- well, other than the burger at Hell-Burger.
re: crackers
A pastrami/corned beef combo at Deli City has the best of both worlds.
re: DanielK
I wonder if they'd let you bring your own rye bread? Anyway, I hear you about the bread thing. I can't stand when so-called Chicago dogs don't come on a poppy seed roll. I can live without the sport peppers, but not the green relish and poppy roll.
re: monkeyrotica
Maybe the best sandwich in DC is in my kitchen - corned beef and pastrami from Deli City, and a fresh-baked rye bread from Brooklyn's Deli in Rockville.
I am chiming in on the Italian Store. I love the Napoli on soft with everything but onion, but I like my peppers. Definitely up there, may be better than Breadline, although I love Breadline.
I think again not in DC proper, but next up after those two if you can't find something you like at Lost Dog Cafe in Falls Church or Earl's Sandwiches in Clarendon then you just aren't trying. But Breadline and Italian Store are awesome.
re: ktmoomau
I also wanted to add Liberty Tavern as having excellent sandwiches for lunch, although it isn't a deli style, they do have to-go. I think what makes theirs so good is the bread there, too. There has been a lot of discussion about bread and Liberty's is very good. And they make their own sausages and many of the meats so it really is fresh and tasty. They are huge though, about 2 meals for me, and not extremely cheap, but not too bad. Probably behind the Italian Store, and Earl's, in NOVA, but very good.
re: Elyssa
Is Hodge's still open on New York avenue?
re: beauxgoris
I had walked past Booeymonger many times and never felt tempted by it based on appearance. Then I read your comment, beauxgoris, and decided to try it today. I got the Veggie Special. Three things I liked about it -- first, it was substantial - there must have been at least 1 1/2 cups of cooked onions, peppers, tomatoes, spinach and broccoli on that sandwich. It also had a lot of melted cheese and mayo so it was a full meal. Second, I really like my hot food served to me HOT and this really was. Almost too hot to eat, which is just the way I like it. And third, it was served with a pickle and not chips. The moisture from the cooked vegetables kind of soaked into the bread too, which I liked. I was pleasantly surprised. It was a nice meal for $6 - I'll be back. There is a dearth of decent, inexpensive places to grab a quick bite in Friendship Heights.
Booeymonger Restaurant
5252 Wisconsin Ave NW Ste 3, Washington, DC 20015
re: chinkleDC
Italian Store and maybe So's Your Mom sound like good ideas for me to check out. I should have disqualified Deli City in the initial post. I discovered that thanks to CH and readily agree it's the city's best Reuben but those sandwiches don't travel as well (tangential lament: how truly great would it be if the Deli City Reuben was in a real Deli locale? Sigh...)
Places like Firehook, Booeymonger, Potbelly and even Marvelous Market (probably the best of those four) are not in the same league as Breadline, iMHO. Should probably add Dean & Deluca also to a list like that.
Oh, and Lost Dog Cafe and Earls Sandwiches--never heard of those places. Any other experience with them?
Thanks all--great ideas as always.
re: nwdchound
Since you've discounted Deli City, then I would have to say Wagshall's trumps all the others mentioned. The #25 features their superior roast beef, with coleslaw and russian. This sandwich is a real star. Another one features roast pork, cheese, and tomato, can't remeber the number. Overall quality is high.
re: nwdchound
I find Booeymonger much better than potbelly. Potbelly tasts like something I would get in a cafeteria in high school, nothing unique or interesting to me in their sandwiches. Booeymonger at least grills their sandwiches and has interesting combinations and sauces.
I love a little place called "Best Sandwich" off L Street. I haven't worked downtown in a year so hopefully it's still there. If you go to the Borders on L street there's an ATM off to the side with a door that leads into an office building. Inside is truly the best sandwich place I've tried in the city, complete with fresh carved turkey.
re: FoodieGrrl
LOVE Roasting House. The turkey and avocado is the best, and I enjoy their pasta salad side.
re: Bill on Capitol Hill
I agree completely (on both Breadline and Mangialardo's). But Mangialardo's is not open Saturday. To remedy this, I'd buy a Super G Man on Friday, put it in the fridge, and eat it on the plane out Saturday.
The reuben from Deli City, while excellent, would be too messy a carry-on. And the aroma of roasted corned beef would be painfully distracting to your fellow plane travelers. I might opt for a cold roast beef from Deli City or Hodges.
re: michael4ny
Somewhere the string gravitated a bit from sandwich places to Italian sandwich places but that's okay. A great Italian sandwich is a wonderful thing but my initial quesiton was really about all-around exceptional sandwiches. Wagshals may be a good suggestion for me to re-try--has been years.
The "Best Sandwich" and "Roast House" tips are interesting. Vace is still around--I'm around that area. And, while much loved, it's not really what I'm looking for here. On sandwiches, respectable hoagie/heros on okay bread but just not outstanding in any way. That's what makes me cite Breadline first. Admittedly high prices aside, the place has the best bread in the city. Has always amazed me how unusual that is here.
Safe to say---I know some will disagree--that DC has a number of very respectable sandwich spots. I have a few to check out thanks to everyone but I'm guessing there'll only be 2 or so at most that really qualify as memorable, outstanding, etc.
re: MDBBQFiend
Yeah, some good stuff there, although the sandwich menu shrank when former owners returned. But until the Banh Mi place on Georgia closed, they were the second best sandwich in Wheaton.
re: repete
New bahn mi place on Grandview near the Metro parking lot that is delicious. Buy 5 sandwiches get a 6th free - costs about $10 (sandwiches are around $2 a piece). I don't know the name but it's the only Vietnamese joint in Wheaton. Great place!
re: WhitChef
Can you be more specific? I went to Saigonese yesterday seeing a sign for Bahn Mi in the window or on the sidewalk and had 2 really good sandwiches for $2.50 each. They were the tofu and the red meat {pork belly}. The ham was not at all interesting as the ham itself was boring as can be. The meat ones came with a liverwurst like schmear of pate, a good cuke, carrot & cilantro slaw and mayo. The tofu sandwich has freshly fried tofu, some mysterioius brown sauce, the slaw and was quite good. Right now my favorite quick lunch in Wheaton, well that and Max's.
re: MDBBQFiend
True that the sandwiches are great (unfortunately probably the best I've had in the 10 years I've lived around DC) but the service is sooooooo abysmal that I now refuse to go back. Think how bad service must be for an Italian hoagie fanatic who lives about a half-mile from what some consider to be the best Italian sandwich shop in the entire DC area to make a pact with his wife to never ever go there again (after ten years of patronizing Lucia's and putting up with the lousy service just because the sandwiches are so good). Now I just buy Boar's Head Italian meats and bake my own bread and make sandwiches at home. F Lucia's and the snotty little girl who works the register.
i went to breadline once many years ago and the owner would only give me one ketchup for my fries. i've never been back. potbelly is great for a chain. loebs has great sandwiches.
re: dcgdc
"the owner would only give me one ketchup for my fries."
Oh the humanity!!!!
There is kind of a backstory to this.... when Mark Furstenberg started Breadline, he didn't provide any ketchup at all. He didn't want people using it as their own 'sauce' for his food.
Go to France, and you might have difficulty finding ketchup, etc
He finally relented, but he didn't provide commercial ketchup, only one that he prepared so that he had complete control. And he didn't want for folks to use it as a sauce.
Idiosynctatic, yes, fetishistic, yes, but I for one prefer the 'sauciness' of stories like this to the glop of chain restaurants. Even I have (partially) kicked my ketchup addiction. But I do relapse upon occasion......
re: Steve
That's like Louis Lunch in New Haven, the place that claims to have invented the hamburger. They don't serve ketchup on their burgers and they'll throw you out if you try to smuggle some in. And I believe it was John Updike who once commented that only mental patients put ketchup on their hot dogs. It seems to me that ketchup attracts more than it's share of scorn in comparison with other condiments. Why not mayonnaise, for instance, which is pure fat and nearly tasteless? Yet, I've never heard of any restaurant banning the insipid stuff. Maybe because the French invented it. Who knows?
re: flavrmeistr
Then you haven't been to Chutzpah - re: the mayo.
re: Dennis S
Not yet. But when I make it out there, they'll hear no whining from me on that count. Hot pastrami and mayonnaise--egads, what a thought!
re: flavrmeistr
Can I get that on Wonder Bread?
re: monkeyrotica
You know - I agree with <hardly> ever using Mayo and I def am morally against Wonder bread, but there is one time of the year I want both of those AND iceberg lettuce - and that's the day after Thanksgiving for a leftover sandwich. But I feel bad buying the whole loaf and only eating two slices.
re: Dennis S
Yep. It must also include stuffing and whole cranberry sauce. One of those puppies and I'm good for another year. It is also permissible to employ a slice Wonder Bread as a handle/wrapper/napkin for a hunk of ribs or fried fish. Maybe in a pinch for a tomato sandwich. Oh oh! The list is growing longer and it's beginning to scare me.
re: flavrmeistr
I can't imagine a BLT without Wonder Bread and a dab of mayo. I suppose some SAVAGES might insist otherwise, but hopefully these people remain in their caves.
re: flavrmeistr
Mayo is also banned from most reputable Philly cheesesteak joints.
re: DanielK
And yet it's an essential element of the DC steak & cheese, along with lettuce and tomato. Vive le difference!
re: chinkleDC
Where's Bethesda Cafe?
I like going to Via Cucina and having them make up a sandwich with grilled chicken, lots of veggies, and "hoagie mix."
re: Doh
Oops, that should've been Bethesda Deli. :) It's on the ground floor (outside entrance) of the Bethesda Place tower, across from the copy center. Just south of Philadelphia Mike's and the Mongolian Grill.
7700 Wisconsin Ave Suite G
Bethesda, MD 20814
(301) 652-3354
re: chinkleDC
Thanks, I know where you mean now (although the Mongolian Grill was replaced, sadly, by Javan). I'll try it one of these days.
Woodmont Deli in Bethesda (up by the back door to Guapo's) also does a nice sandwich.
Breadline sucks. I came here to say that. I've been half a dozen times now and every time I've been underwhelmed. I see at as the ultimate "emperor has no clothes" kinda place that exists solely on marketing and image -- the sandwiches are lousy. I don't even care about the fact that they are overpriced, they are just plain lousy.
re: masonuc
Sorry you don't like it. I might be willing to vote Breadline as the single most important restaurant in the US. Why? Because it has five or six exceptional versions of the greatest sandwiches in the world under one roof. Cuban sandwiches better than Miami. Cheesesteaks better than most places in Philly. Chopped pork BBQ better than just about anywhere. Same for egg salad, felafel on freshly grilled bread, and even if you go for the lowly BLT , order it on a ciabatta and it becomes heavenly. The Mediterranean Pizza is the world's best excuse for eating grilled zucchini there is. the Italian Sausage sandwich guarantees I will never have to be jealous of Lower Manhattan street festivals.
There are plenty of sandwiches there I won't order. Anything with white chunks of chicken, turkey, hard salami, a rather funky Morroccan tuna, the cheese-dominated sandwiches. The fried fish and soft shells are more expensive than good. Which doesn't mean they are not good!
This is definitely a place where you can go wrong. But the right stuff is magnificent.
re: Steve
I am glad you enjoy Breadline. I do too, but let's not go overboard. If you can't find a better Cuban in Miami or a better cheesesteak in Philly then you aren't trying very hard. I go to Earl's pretty often and it is excellent. They roast many of their own meats and it rivals Breadline but does not have the variety.
re: rappel75
I've had Cuban sandwiches in Tampa gas stations that were better than Breadline's. And the cheesesteak at Philadelphia Water Ice on H puts Breadline's to shame. Never warmed up to Breadline.
re: monkeyrotica
I imagine a gas station in Tampa could produce a great Cubano. Why not?.
I lived in Miami, and although there are many wonderful bakeries, most of the bread used for Cubanos and Media Noches taste little better than styrofoam to me. I can't speak for Tampa, though, so maybe you have a point.
re: rappel75
Most of the bread that Cubanos and Media Noches are served on in So. Florida - where my family lives and where I lived for five years - are little better than styrofoam. Breadline's is better.
Regarding Cheesesteaks, well, that's another debate. I've spent quite a bit of time in Philly eating cheesteaks, especially anything recommended to me by various experts. I personally love the cheez-whiz style at Pat's. I know there are many who swear by only the provolone style - such as Breadline. After having tries many cheeseteaks in philly, I'm in the "it's all about the bread" camp. In that case, Breadline's ciabatta is a World's Best sandwich bread. The homemade ketchup puts it over the top.
I'm not expecting everyone to agree with me, but anyone who is a serious Breadline detractor either hasn't tried the good stuff or has an attitude that has nothing to do with the food.
re: Steve
To some degree, you're right - at least with me. I hated the attitude and the prices, and that seriously detracts from my enjoyment of my food. If my experience is miserable as soon as I step in the door, and then I have to pay for the privilege of being abused, how can I possibly enjoy my food?
I used to work a few blocks from Breadline and so have had the opportunity to try it many times. While the food was good, I can't say that I find nearly the gastrorgasmic experience that you do. And I think that was what finally did it for me. Yes, the food was good - at times, it was excellent - but worth the price and the abuse that I saw Furstenberg heap upon people all the time? Absolutely not.
re: rappel75
Oh, I've tried plenty hard.
In Miami, I' think the bread is the big drawback.
In Philly, after scouring the city for the better part of a month, trying every expert's opinion, I am still partial to standing outside Pat's with a Cheese-Whiz based sandwich. Of course, there are others who swear by only provolone, similar to Breadline. For that type, I have to say that the Breadline ciabatta and the homemade ketchup put it over the top for me.
Now, there are sandwiches I have learned to avoid at Breadline. Frankly, I didn't think much of Breadline after my first two visits, but I ordered wrong.
re: FoodieGrrl
Agreed, FoodieGrrl!
Steve, you spent a month "scouring the city" and the best you could come up with was Pat's? Where did you eat? TGI Friday's? Dairy Queen? Hard Rock Cafe?
re: aburkavage
I ate at everyplace that the cheesesteak lovers I ran into would suggest to me and through reading newspaper articles, etc. The single best one I had was actually in the food court in the Bourse. It was all burnt and crispy and delicious. Probably a mistake. I haven't been to Pat's in a long time now, but like I said before, it's really the bread. close to 100 percent of the cheesesteaks I tried were on the same level. I like the gooeyness at Pat's.
re: aburkavage
I know, it takes baverey to speak the truth! Actually, the place at the Bourse probably doesn't even exist and maybe it was a fluke. But I have been to just about every place recommended on the boards and, although styles differ somewha, I find little difference in quality. I was first taken to Pat's by a local who was really into cheesesteaks and who prepared them at home all the time too.
Now, it's been years since I've been there, and quite frankly I'm much more interested in sampling the roast pork choices. I give a big thumbs up to Tony Luke's.
re: aburkavage
As a Philly guy snooping around for a visit to D.C. next week, I concur - Steve would be laughed off of the Philly board
and Geno's sucks too, not to mention having one of the most obnoxious owners in the city
John's Roast Pork is near indisputably the best cheesesteak in Philly proper, though it's not particularly tourist friendly - industrial South Philly location, Monday - Friday only, closes at 3PM (no steaks after 2:30)
Speaking of which, the cheesesteak gets all the fame, but the roast pork sandwich is Philly's true treasure. Try it at DiNic's in the Reading Terminal Market (a veritable shrine to food and eating), Tony Luke's, or, of course, John's Roast Pork
re: FoodieGrrl
You've never been to Geno's.
Every city has a signature dish, and every city has a place where tourists go for that dish. Pat's and Geno's are it in Philly.
re: monkeyrotica
That's true, but it doesn't mean that that place has the best one around. There are lots of opinions about Philly steak places, but from my reading on the topic I doubt many who get around and seriously eat them would select either Pat's or Geno's as best. Most famous, yes. Appeal to tourists (who by definition don't know where the really good stuff is), yes. Maybe it's snobism, I don't know. I've had Geno's many times, never Pats. My personal fav is Leo's in Fulcroft (sp??). But there are many I've read about but haven't tried, so don't take my word for it.
BTW, you say every city has a signature dish, but unfortunately DC really doesn't have much of a signature dish. Believe me, I know whereof I speak on that one. And Lord knows I did what i could to change it.
re: monkeyrotica
Well you're correct about that as far as it goes. Unfortunately very few folks seem to know about them, and fewer have ever had one, so consequently it doesn't go very far toward being a "signature dish," to my profound regret. As far as Ben's is concerned, it is identified with the half smoke, but unfortunately their chili isn't really very good, at least IMO. I have spotted very few folks in there when I've been that look like tourists. I've never been to Burger Delight, or (I admit) even heard of it.
Oddly, half smokes, while as close as anything to a signature dish for Washington, are not to my knowledge produced anywhere in metro DC, but in Baltimore and possibly some even further away.
re: johnb
Halfsmokes are also to be found at Weenie Beenie, whose chili is far superior to the canned product at Ben's. City Paper did an extensive history of the halfsmoke and, yes, the good ones are made by Mangers in Baltimore. The version sold by Gwaltney is a pale imitation.
Weenie Beenie
2680 S Shirlington Rd, Arlington, VA 22206
Burger Delite
3301 Kenilworth Ave, Hyattsville, MD 20781
Burger Delite
10401 Ewing Rd, Beltsville, MD 20705
Burger Delite
5650 Edsall Rd, Alexandria, VA
re: monkeyrotica
Thanks for the addresses. Now I realize I've been to Burger Delite, I think, specifically the one on Kenilworth--it's at the top of the hill, directly across from (Salvation Army or Goodwill I forget which, yes?) and that big roofing supplier, IIRC.
I've not had a half smoke at Weenie Beenie, just regular dogs. Their stuff is generally good. A true Chowhound spot.
re: monkeyrotica
For the record John won the Post's contest a number of years ago for defining D. C.'s most famous/best/definitive "signature dish." I should note that the multi million dollar prize they bestowed on him allowed him to retire to the mountains of Western North Carolina where now, I am guessing, he dearly misses the half smoke he helped popularize in D. C.'s folk history!) Immodestly, I was also briefly mentioned in the superb City Paper history, having once driven a cab in Bethesda in the late '60's and given a package of half smokes as a tip from the man who owned Briggs at the time.
And, the Weenie Beenie!!!! Credit, sir, for citing the location of a forgotten but absolutely great half smoke and carry out rarely if ever mentioned on here. Frequented over 30 years ago by myself and a good friend who, at the time while also driving a cab in Alexandria, pursued an exhaustive study of the best steak and cheese subs in the Northern Virginia suburbs.
re: monkeyrotica
I think there is another one in Beltsville, right off 212 as you cross Route 1 you turn left into the first business area. keep straight to Old Baltimore Pike. Havent been up that way in a while, but it was the same menu as Weenie Beenie and Burger Delite. Same half smokes too!!!
re: Ericandblueboy
Sure. I mean, if I had to name one, I would consider it.
For example, let's say you had an oversees visitor who wanted to know what Amercian food was like. You could take them to Breadline every day of the week and show them a high quality example of America's favorite foods. The foods we really eat every day. BLTs, egg salads, BBQ, got New Orleans covered, Philly, So. Florida, the list goes on.
Now, if you don't like it, as apparently some on this board, then you don't have to agree. But if you do appreciate it, then I think you have to admit that it deserves consideration as one restaurant that could most single-handedly improve the eating in any community in the US.
re: masonuc
"Lousy?" Only Catania even approaches them for bread in this area. Still, I'll match the french bread at Bread Line with Berkeley's Acme or anyplace else on this side of the Atlantic. Yes, some of what goes on this could be better (and the soups and salads are inconsistent in their excellence) but overall we are indeed fortunate to have the Bread Line here. The lines out the door everyday are testimony to this. It may have been better when Mark Furstenburg owned it but I think we owe him a lot. He started Marvelous Market and took D. C. to a new level with what he baked and served.
re: monkeyrotica
Subway was never nominated for a James Beard Award. Mark Furstenberg was for "best chef Mid Atlantic." His restaurant? Bread Line.
Subway also never supplied bread to Citronelle.
I have a few suggestions:
For an Italian coldcut sub, O.G. Italian style: Vace in Cleveland Park or Bethesda.
For an Italian coldcut sub Maryland style: Ollie's Deli in Twinbrook on Viers Mill Rd near Twinbrook Pkwy.
For Vietnamese Banh Mi someplace that's not in Annandale: Ba Le' on Rockville pike. Have a pate' chaude (chicken puff) while you're waiting.
Nearest duplicate of the Best. Sammich. Ever: The pork shoulder sandwich w/ broccoli rabe and green sauce at Bebo in Crystal City. The ones they had at the "Grill at Galileo" during Galileos waning days were unbelievable. Transcendent sandwiches assembled by Chef Donna who'd pick on the crowd and generally have a good time feeding you.
Wildcard recent find I can't wait to have again: The Sucuk + Kaser cheese sandwich at Attillas in Arlington on Columbia Pike, a few doors from the Cinema and Draft House. Perfect, balanced, simple, delicious street food. Awesome.
Another source of very good deli sandwiches is The Parkway Deli on Grubb Rd. in Silver Spring. They've got a reuben that's a full day meal, and both the corned beef and pastrami are excellent. The pickle bar kills it too.
I'm not sure this qualifies as 2nd best....for house cooked and hand carved sammies in SW there is the Atrium Cafe on School St. across from the PD and FD.
This is one of the things you have to love about Chowhound. The mix of knowledge, strong opinions and downright entertainment. As the one who started this string off, I'll go on record saying it's crazy to say either that Breadline is terrible (edited) or that it's the best in the country (seriously?). it's best in DC simply because they take such care with ingredient selection (the French madrange ham sandwich is a great example--so simple, so good) and method (back to that bread!). But as big of a fan as I am, can't say it tops what you'd get in places like NY, SF or, for that matter, the regional specialties such as Cuban sandwiches in Miami.
Nevertheless, some great ideas here for anyone in need of the best sandwiches DC has to offer.
I hope to god that those here that have never had a corned beef at Deli City aren't put off from giving it a try. It is amazing - the real deal. Go and decide for yourself.
I'm in love with the sandwiches from Cowgirl creamery. I'm so glad they have 'em so I'm not relegated to only eating at the juice joint when I choose to leave work at lunch (I'm a brown bag girl).
They do use Breadline bread (the ciabatta roll) and every day they have two offerings that rotate depending on the day, and have a special that you have to call up and ask about if you want to know ahead of time.
I love em
Deli City - Wow.
Best Pastrami Sandwich i've had.
- smaller than Katz's in NYC
- Smaller than Katz's in Houston/Austin (no relation to the one in NY)
- About the same size as Loeb's here in DC
But the flavor and juiciness...Wow.
If it weren't so out of the way, they'd make a killing.
The service is classic DC, so I guess they wouldn't survive in the hustle and bustle and chaos of the Central Business District
re: WestIndianArchie
They wouldn't be able to afford the rent, either.
Whenever I go to Deli City, there's always someone ordering a bunch of sandwiches to take back to some office in Dupont or Georgetown.
The reuben is worth the drive. Literally dripping with flavor.
re: monkeyrotica
I'd like to thank this board to tipping me to Deli City. Just went there for the reuben and I'm sitting on my couch now digesting with this fat and happy look on my face.
Bless you all and Happy New Year.
Deli City Restaurant
2200 Bladensburg Rd NE, Washington, DC 20018
Devon & Blakely on F between 13 and 14st. (great soups too)
Cowgirl Creamery (not the veggie, but the meat sandwich)
Organica-to-go on F between 13 and 14st.
Marvelous Market
Teaism also has a great banh mi (healthy)
Cuban (takeout at Ceiba)
Tuna on multigrain at au bon pain (only at 2000 penn mall location)
re: jaws1970
I have to nominate West Wing Cafe now. A little Korean run joint on 12th st between Penn and E across from the Covington Burling Building. Great simple homemade soups (i.e. chicken noodle soup whose broth is clear not yellow), awesome seven grain bread, boar's head meat, turkey pastrami reubens (yum) and good salads too. Try their grilled chicken tomato soup. It looks like kitchen sink soup but I buy it by the threefuls. Oh, and they don't charge you Phillips Cafe prices.
I love the sandwiches at Loeb's) and Morty's (in Tenlyetown).
Loeb's Restaurant
832 15th St NW, Washington, DC 20005
Morty's Delicatessen
4620 Wisconsin Ave NW, Washington, DC 20016
re: DonFrancesco
RIP Hodges. :-(
re: Culocho
Say it ain't so, Culocho! I'll miss their roast beef and baked ham sandwiches. Deli City does a decent roast beef, but it's hard to pass up their reuben.
Where is the Italian Store? I don't think we are talking about the same thing with The Italian Market located in Gaithersburg behind Fuddruckers (28 & Quince Orchard). Their Italian True Sub and Spicy Italian are amazing. Get the hard roll but soft is also awsome.
Anyone been there?
re: SITBOY
The Italian Store
3123 Lee Hwy
Arlington, Virginia 22201-4207
Phone: (703) 528-6266
re: beauxgoris
The meatball subs are good, microwaved, but really good actually. Their Italian subs are decent. They have fairly good bread, the sandwiches are huge.
re: SITBOY
Unless you like standing in line though, try to phone or fax your order in...and if you fax it you might want to verify receipt. Just saying. :)
Oh, I'm new to Chow Hound. Hello, everyone.
re: WhitChef
A regular stop on my DC-Frederick run, especially if I missed lunch. The rolls at the Italian Store are a little better, but the overall quality of the IG sandwich is right up there. IG also has a decent selection of Italian wines that change regularly. Many good deals in the 10-16 dollar range.
re: flavrmeistr
Any decent french dip around here?
re: beauxgoris
There's a sandwich place in Bowie at 14207 Annapolis Road. It used to be J Mart but I think it's changed owners. Anyway, they do mostly sandwiches and they have a particularly good roast beef on a baguette with a little cup of jus. Don't think I'd go all the way to Bowie just for it, but whenever I'm in the neighborhood, I try and make a detour.
Can I just say, for me, when someone says "it has Boars Head meat" that is a good reason not to go?
My favorite sandwich (and definitely the one I stop by and get before getting on the metro to Reagan) is at Cafe Phillips. I think it is a local chain, but I go to the one in Metro Center.
This is not a place to get a fancy, trendy sandwich. No panini presses, no arugula pestos.
What they do have is three hunks of meat. a ham. a beef roast. a (bone-in!) turkey breast. The meats are kept warm and sliced to order. By hand. No presliced meat, no machine. The roast beef is my favorite. Very rare, juicy, perfect!
To me, meat and bread are the keys, everything else, if its no good, just don't get it. The bread at Cafe Phillips is good, simple, looks like its from a local bakery, good enough not to ruin the perfect meat.
If you haven't had the roast pork/broccoli rabe/sharp provo on sesame Sarcones sub at Taylor Gourmet, get one. Now. Better than anything I've had at Breadline recently.
re: monkeyrotica
Is Listrani's really that good? I've never been.
re: beauxgoris
The meatball parm is to die for. Eggplant is ok, but the eggplant wasnt 'sturdy" enough and was abit greasy.
re: fishie
Which Listrani's do you go to?
re: fishie
OK, so I'm still confused. Are you saying that your original 'Wow' is for the meatball parm at Litteri's?
re: irishgem79
I love a good Phiily cheese steak. I'll have to make a point to try Colonial Pizza..
re: irishgem79
Have to agree that Breadline is overrated. I second cowgirl creamery and Taylor.
Just read through the string, picked up a couple new places to try, I've always found the Italian Store in Lyon Village to have a respectable hoagie. After Taylor opened in NE, I went out of my way to try it due to the write-up in the WPost. It was good but my expectations were higher. I'm from Philly area (like the owners) and while the roll is shipped in from Sarcone's, it had sesame seeds, which is not a plus for me. Cheese steaks in DC - when I arrived here in the 80s, it was a steak and cheese, at least the terminology here has evolved, but every time someone says they found an "authentic" Philly cheese steak here, I've been disappointed, but will check out some of the places mentioned. I like my steaks simple and "Talk of The Town" on Broad Street in Philly just down from the stadiums is where I stop when passing through on I-95. The best steaks growing up in the burbs were the small pizza/steak/hoagie shops. Probably a good thing I don't still live there or I'd be twice my size!
re: pizzah
Have you tried the roast pork/broccoli rabe/sharp provo sandwich at Taylor? Some are saying it's better than Tony Luke's.
re: pizzah
This ain't Philly and we still call our local sandwich a Steak and Cheese.
re: flavrmeistr
pizzah, in case there is confusion, I think flavr is responding to the difference between Philly's cheesesteak and DC's steak and cheese. If you search for those terms on this board, and include Joe H, you can get a lot of historical info. The short of it is that there is a DC sandwich, the steak and cheese, which (IIRC) was never meant to even be a comparison to the Philly cheesesteak. The DC sandwich Definitely includes tomato, lettuce and mayo, and again is not a cheesesteak.
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And there are more I believe.
re: Dennis S
I think Dennis described the situation pretty well. DC's steak and cheese is a completely different sandwich from a cheese steak, and when you add lettuce, mayo and tomato, it really adds a richer flavor in my opinion. I have only had cheese steaks on South Street, so I am not a Philadelphia cheese steak expert, but I like the pretty good Mario's or Al's steak and cheese better than a 'best in the world' cheese steak in Philadelphia.
People confuse the two all the time, but they really are different sandwiches.
re: Steve
Steve, I think most comfort foods are what you had when you were young. If you grew up in a vinegar based barbecue sauce area, then mustard based or molasses based BBQ is fundamentally wrong. Chili is the same way, to have chili without beans seems effete to me, but if I grew up in Texas I would be feeling completely the opposite.
The whole cheese steak vs. steak and cheese debate is similar. My first experience was with a loaded steak and cheese, with hots, mayo, tomatoes, lettuce, fried onions and mushrooms. After eating those for a few years, I hit Geno's and Pat's and they were great sandwiches, but they weren't what I liked best.
re: Dennis S
OK, OK. I don't get out too much and not being a native of the area (though 20+ years here seems to almost qualify someone as one), I understand. It seems like the places I do see a steak sandwich, it's a philly-style cheese steak and called that, so it's probably my limited view. Thanks for the clarification everyone. I'm brand new to the Chow site, so have a lot to catch up on!
re: pizzah
There are fairly recent incursions by chains which tout Philly Cheeseteaks, but DC has had it's own steak and cheese sandwich for at least as long as Philly has had theirs. These days, DC days seems not to be identified with a particular dish, although it was reknowned for seafood years ago. Baltimore still markets itself that way, but has suffered along with DC in the steep decline of it's once unrivaled local fisheries. Pitifully, the only other food item we can identify with DC is the half-smoke, a largely unremarkable sausage found mostly at local Seven-Elevens. Pretty sad. I think nowadays, DC is mostly famous for the copious varieties of Asian, African and South American foods that are now widely available. Tough for branding purposes, but certainly a much better deal for those who live and visit here. "DC--home of a whole bunch of good stuff to eat".
I am very surprised that no one really mentioned Litteri's. Much better than Vace's which did get some mention. And while I really like Taylor's chicken cutlet sandwiches, other sandwiches I had there weren't as good. Litteri's has great ingredients and the nicest folks ever to help you out. And great prices on food, wine, and foodstuffs. Go there, but if it's lunch time, it takes forever for them to make your sandwich. The sandwiches are stuffed with meat, and there's plenty of shelf-shopping to do...
re: nloewen
Do try Taylor's roast pork, broccoli rabe, and sharp provo sandwich. Outstanding. I much prefer it to their other sandwiches.
re: nloewen
Ah man, was reading this entire long chain wondering if I should chime in about Litteri's or not - since everyone else had missed it I was kind of into keeping it under wraps - but I guess that isn't the spirit of this board and you outed them anyways.
Easily the best sandwich in DC - only the Italian Store is really close - and the shopping (especially the cheap cheap cheap cases of wine) make it a must trip.
I had a really good BLT on toasted soft sub roll this weekend at So's Your Mom in Adams Morgan for about $5.00. I thoroughly enjoyed that sandwich. What I didn't enjoy about it is the same problem I have with Vace in Cleveland Park - nowhere to sit, so unless you live or work nearby, you have to eat standing on the sidewalk. But still, it was a really good sandwich and they had lots more delicious-looking ones on their menu.
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1831 Columbia Rd NW, Washington, DC 20009
re: woodleyparkhound
We usually enjoy our Vace pie leaning on the hood of the car. Sometimes sitting in the bus shelter out front. Still my favorite pie in DC, so it's worth it.
re: flavrmeistr
Agreed - it's definitely worth it. I like Vace so much that having to stand to eat it isn't a deal breaker... but I would enjoy it even more sitting down!
re: woodleyparkhound
In nice weather, it is a pretty quick zip on over to Rock Creek Park. An impromptu picnic at the shelter off Tilden/Park Rd.
I noticed this thread didn't contain MGM Roast Beef. Excellent hand carved sandwiches at a reasonable price. Since Hodge's folded, this is the best roast beef I've found in DC.
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re: monkeyrotica
Good for breakfast too.
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From April 2015 Luke Jerram invites visitors to Leigh Woods in Bristol, to experience an unexpected encounter with a flotilla of abandoned fishing boats installed in the depths of the woodland. Find out more here.
The Glass Microbiology artworks are currently being exhibited alongside the Codex Atlanticus by Leonardo da Vinci at Artscience Museum in Singapore. At the same time over in Spain the Museum of Contemporary Art, in A Coruña are also presenting Jerram's work. Here in the UK, new ambitious and complex works are being developed for The Pirbright Institute.
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Interested in the history of cartography and the quest of mapping the earth's globe on a flat piece of paper? Want your imaginary world to have a touch of realism or believability? Than the March Annual issue is for you. Check out more than a dozen new templates, showing different map projections, and instructions on how to convert these into your favorite mapping style.
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Dear Cartographers, welcome to the February newsletter!
In February last year, Mark Fulford and I flew to Phoenix to meet CAD guru Mike Riddle and expert programmer and ProFantasy mainstay Peter Olsson. Serendipitously, cartography Mike Schley lives in Phoenix, so we agreed to meet.
By this stage Mike Schley was developing an overland map style for use in the forthcoming CC3+, but as a result of our conversation we also agreed that he would create an entirely new symbol set, too. It's an unashemedly fantasy-oriented dungeon-bashing style, with the complete set of symbols you get with DD3 and Fantasy Floorplans.
We've kept this one under our hat, but we are now ready to announce, The Dungeons of Schley!
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As described elsewhere, TolrendorDM finished off his 2013 Annual Challenge with this map of the "Barrens of Gorak" in the 1930′s travel guide style.
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He can certainly be proud. I love the whimsical detail of the map and the great care all the symbols have been placed with.
And I was happy to to provide a little tech support too: Curved text can be done in CC3 with the "Text along a curve" command (found in the Draw menu or by right-clicking the text button).
Thanks for map and the kind words, Nick!
The February issue of the Cartographer's Annual 2014 has been available since Saturday (log in to your registration page if you are a subscriber). It contains pre-assembled paper figures to use in your games. Created with the new Charcater Artist 3 add-on, a selection of generic heroes is opposed by a wealth of stock monsters. Character Artist 3 is not necessary to enjoy this issue, but it also contains the CA3 source files so you can quickly create more variations if you do.
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In January last year I had the somewhat crazy idea of setting myself a target, which I named The Cartographer's Annual Challenge. With each month's issue of the 2013 subscription-based CC3 add-on I would produce a map, with the only real constraint being that the content had to relevant in some way to my home-brew D&D® world/campaign, which I call Tolrendor. Twelve months on, I am very pleased to have achieved this: you can see the results here.
The motivation for starting this Challenge was simple. I have been a subscriber to the Cartographer's Annual since its inception in 2007, and although I realise that for readers of this blog I'm mostly preaching to the converted, I can't recommend it highly enough. I've had CC3 for many years, but the reality is that it was only after the beginning of the Annuals, with their informative mapping guides and well-constructed style packs, that I really started to achieve map-making that I was proud of.
But here's the thing! The actual number of Annual issues that I truly used was extremely low. Oh, I had my favourites, including the original hex mapping style from July 2010 (shown on the right), the Jon Roberts trio of styles, and the recent Pär Lindström regional style, but normally I simply enjoyed viewing the example images and reading the mapping guides. The Annual Challenge was deliberately designed to break that trend.
At times this content constraint turned into quite a challenge! The very first January issue was a style pack called 'Investigation Props', designed for modern/Cthulhu detective style games. How was I to use that for a fantasy setting? I had to rack my brain quite hard, but eventually came up with the idea of producing a handout as a pre-session recap. This proved quite timely, as my PCs were in the middle of a town-based adventure, and needed to remember the relationships between the important NPCs.
My favourite map of the whole Challenge also originated from an issue where I struggled for inspiration. The August issue was designed to depict science-fiction star systems. Beautiful example maps, but not fantasy. Then I remembered the old AD&D Spelljammer setting, one of my favourite alternate settings. After a quick rummage, I also unearthed a notebook of ancient (well 30 years old…) notes documenting the Tolrendor 'Crystal Sphere'. So I used the basic style with its orbit drawing tools and planet symbols, but with a parchment background and some Spelljammer ships (added in Photoshop) to give a 'fantasy space' feel.
There was a definite motivation behind the decision that each map had to be related to my D&D setting. I don't get nearly enough mapping time as it is, so if I was going to spend the time on the Challenge, it made sense to create maps that would be used in my campaign.
This has been great fun, resulting in maps like this overland one, detailing an area of my world that had always been sketchy before (utilising the beautiful 'DeRust' symbols from the September issue), or this dungeon map for a new D&D® Next campaign (although it might be 13th Age now, but that's another story…) using the black and white style from the October issue.
There was only one map, using the June issue, that broke these self-imposed rules, and that was simply because the style just cried out for it. My son has been drawing his own world, and when I showed him the example maps for this issue, he definitely wanted a 'Scaryland' version. This seemed a reasonable request, so I went with it. Besides, maybe one fine day explorers will find this 'lost continent' on the other side of Tolrendor.
The one thing I didn't always (often didn't…) achieve was my target of finishing each map within the same month that the issue was released. I managed quite well for the first four or five months, but the rest were done in 'catch-up' bursts throughout the rest of the year. It's something I'll have to try a bit harder on in 2014…
Yes, that's right, I've decided to repeat the Cartographer's Annual Challenge in 2014. I've really enjoyed setting myself targets for mapping and having to find some inspiration for each issue last year. My CC3 skills have improved out of sight, and my campaign has benefited greatly, so why not? My January effort is now finished, so I'm on the way.
So if you're a Cartographer's Annual subscriber, why don't you join me in the Challenge … let's all get mapping and sharing!
Article by Andrew Collett (TolrendorDM on the ProFantasy community forum)
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Last meeting: The Reds were away and clear after just 22 minutes of November's trip to Craven Cottage, with strikes from Antonio Valencia, Robin van Persie and Wayne Rooney handing the side a clear advantage that the hosts were unable to overcome despite Alexander Kacaniklic's deflected goal giving hope on 65 minutes.
Betting: Our official betting partners bwin make the Reds hot favourites for a win on Sunday at 1.20, a draw is 6.00 while the visitors are a distant 13.50 to claim three points. Juan Mata is yet to open his account since his record-breaking move, but the Spain international is a tempting 34.00 to start the scoring in a 3-1 win.
Sub-plot: A win for the Reds will increase the problems for former coach Rene Meulensteen, just two months after he took charge at Fulham.
The manager: Rene Meulensteen earned a glowing reputation during two stints at United, working with the academy and reserves before becoming first team coach in 2008 after returning to the club following a spell in charge of Danish outfit Brondby. The 49-year-old left the Reds last summer but was quickly recruited as assistant to Guus Hiddink at big-spending Anzhi Makhachkala. His stay in Russia was brief – he succeeded Hiddink after two games but left 16 days later when the club's owner decided to drastically slash budgets. Meulensteen joined the Craven Cottage coaching team under Martin Jol in November and replaced his fellow Dutchman a few weeks later.
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KentuckyFC (1144503) writes "The halting problem is to determine whether an arbitrary computer program, once started, will ever finish running or whether it will continue forever. In 1936, Alan Turing famously showed that there is no general algorithm that can solve this problem. Now a group of computer scientists and ethicists have used the halting problem to tackle the question of how a weaponised robot could decide to kill a human. Their trick is to reformulate the problem in algorithmic terms by considering an evil computer programmer who writes a piece of software on which human lives depend. The question is whether the software is entirely benign or whether it can ever operate in a way that ends up killing people. In general, a robot could never decide the answer to this question. As a result, autonomous robots should never be designed to kill or harm humans, say the authors, even though various lethal autonomous robots are already available. One curious corollary is that if the human brain is a Turing machine, then humans can never decide this issue either, a point that the authors deliberately steer well clear of."


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LOVE this product!
I have tried many different kind of makeup remover and found cleansing oil is most effective in removing waterproof makeups.
Among all the cleaning oil (e.g. Shu umera, Watson's, DHC), Fancl is the best.
It feels oily when apply to skin, but once you massage to your face, you can feel the makeup is melting away. As soon you wash it with water, you skin would feel soft and refreshed, not greasy at all!
A small quarter pump size is enough for your entire face.
Packaging is sweet, the pump neck comes with a stopper, you can take it to vacation and not to worry about spill out in your luggage.
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I bought the mini one which is handy for traveling. It costs me S$17 (US$12) for the 60ml bottle.
- Not as thick as Shu Uemera's
- Removes makeup even waterproof eyeliners and mascara
- Does not cause my skin to break out
- Does not feel "warm" when I massaged it to my skin
- Only need a quarter-size of the product for the whole face
- Free of preservatives, sterilizers, petroleum surfactants, fragrances, mineral oil.
- Must be used within 120 days(4 months) of opening
- Relatively affordable compared to Shu Uemera
Overall, I prefer this to Shu Uemera's. It does its job well and it's reasonably priced.
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This is my HG cleansing oil so far. I've tried all sorts of cleansing oils, like Shiseido, Kose, Kanebo, etc. as well as vegetable oils such as EVOO. This is superior to all I have tried so far and am on the third bottle. I haven't tried the famous Shu Uemura or DHC (would love to try it in the future though!), but this is excellent - has great slip and just glides across your skin, minimizing skin friction and irritation. It takes everything off! Although this is advertised to take even your eye makeup off, I use a separate eye makeup remover beforehand, and go again over the eye area to remove every trace. Great lip makeup remover too, and I love the fact that it is gentle and preservative-free. Fancl Mild Cleansing oil all the way!
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I switch from Shu Uemura to Fancl after seeing it's ads in Japanese magazines and on tv.
It's so gentle for the skin. No scents and doesn't stint my eyes.
The only complaint I have is that the bottle seems so small. I can't buy it in Vietnam where I'm currently living so I always have to stock up whenever I go abroad. I hate that there's such a short expiry date. Can't buy too much at one time anyway.
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After a year of using this cleansing oil, I am still very happy with it. 2 bottles used up and I am gonna buy 4 more in stock when I am in Japan this time... ^.^
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The best cleansing oil ever! I've tried Dermalogica, DHC and they can't beat Fancl. The texture is smooth, no unwanted smell, easy to wash off and it cleans all the make up even waterproof mascara. A trick is to use luke warm water gently massage before wash off.
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I love this make up remover. HG HG HG!!! It really takes off everything and does not leave your face feeling greasy which i assumed it would at first since its an oil. surprisingly it left a clean dry feeling. However i still use a mild foam wash afterward before i apply my moisturizer for the night. I'm happy to say that when i'm using my mild wash i dont notice any makeup residue so that means this oil cleans properly. I have combo oily skin and so far this does not break me out. My mom has very dry skin and she loves this too. So i guess its for all skin types.
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Pretty amazing product. I know this is supposed to be a fash wash, but I use this as a make up remover, because it doesnt feel clean enough when I just wash my face with this. So I pair it with spectrogel. I absolutely cannot live without this,
**There is an expiration date on this oil! The expiration date is usually located around the bottom or top of the box.
This stuff will take off ALL your make up off your face, even stubborn mascara or eyeliner, this comes off like a charm. Sometimes foundation doenst come off properlly, well this stuff does the trick. So your skin is usually left extremely clean and soft.
I did not get a breakout or anything when i first used it. I am currently on my fourth bottle, and I have nothing but praise for this!
The pump bottle gets a little annoying when you are almost out of the product :P other than that. It is pretty amazing
Look out for other formulas too! The last time i went to purchase it, they had a newer formula that claimed to clean your skin x10 better than the original.
If you are from Toronto and you are completely clueless as to where you can buy it, go to pacific mall!! They should be retailing around $30-$35. So shop around first. There are lots of stores selling this product there. Also BRING CASH!! because they wont charge you tax if you pay by cash.
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I was happy about it for a few days and then it broke me out. Took me months for the scars to fade. I guess cleansing oils are just not for me. Every one that I've tried (Fancl, Shu, DHC) broke me out.
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Edit: 12-1-10 I am still using this product and will absolutely die if it is discontinued...It is just that awesome for removing makeup and sunscreen.
I love this product and hope to never be without it. I have been using Fancl Mild Cleansing Oil for over 2 years. I believe that this product keeps my skin clear and healthy. Before I started using Fancl, I was having all kinds of skin issues with sunscreen (breakouts, irritation and dryness). However, Fancl cleansing "oil" completely removes my sunscreen and I think this is has been the key to making my sunscreen regime work. I was afraid at first to use a cleansing oil because I thought it would make me break out. I haven't done a major ingredient analysis but it is my impression that this isn't a true oil (as in olive, mineral or vegetable oil). It does feel like an oil when I first apply it to my dry skin but then when I add water to it, it becomes water soluble and all of the sunscreen and makeup is removed by rinsing. Truly a fantastic product! Love it! Will continue to repurchase again and again.
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HG FOREVERRRRR! I absolutely love this product. It cleans everything, including waterproof mascara. Not harsh on the skin and I find that it gives my skin a healthy glow. After using it for a couple of weeks, people have been complimenting my skin and how it looks healthier. I've finished more than 4 bottles of this stuff and I will definitely continuing buying it.
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The best fast bowler England have produced
Fiery Fred is born. In Frederick Sewards Trueman's day, he was the best fast bowler in the world, and he remains probably the best England have ever produced. A rhythmic, extremely quick bowler and a coarse, confrontational character with more curses than Captain Haddock, he demolished India in his first series, and his debut, at Headingley, really was the Trueman Show: Fred took 3 for 0 in eight balls to reduce India to a staggering 0 for 4. Later in that series he took 8 for 31 at Manchester, and he eventually finished up with 307 wickets, at the time a Test record. When he retired Trueman joined the BBC's Test Match Special commentary team, where his grumpy musings on modern life and cricket - he once said Ian Botham "ouldn't bowl a hoop downhill" - were legendary.
The birth of one of England's best - and longest-lived - wicketkeepers. Tiger Smith was a Brummie through and through, and an outstanding keeper towards the end of cricket's Golden Age. He could bat too - he scored 20 first-class hundreds, including one before lunch at the age of 41. He went on to become an umpire, coached Warwickshire to the Championship in 1951, and in his twilight years was sought out by players for his blunt but penetrative advice.
The end of the line for two old English soldiers. Graham Gooch and Mike Gatting played their last Test innings on this day, in Perth. By the end Gooch cut a dishevelled figure at the crease - remember that caught-and-bowled off the first ball of the day in Melbourne? - and he was caught and bowled again here when he carted one back to Craig McDermott via the bowler's shoulder. And fittingly for a man who was bowled in exactly a quarter of his Test innings, Gatting lost his stumps to McDermott. Between them Gooch and Gatting played 197 Tests, in which they scored over 13,000 runs.
Birth of the only man to clear the pavilion at Lord's. Albert Trott whacked Monty Noble out of the ground when he was playing for MCC against Australia. He played three Tests for Australia and then two for England after joining the Lord's ground staff and qualifying for Middlesex. On his Test debut, against England in Adelaide in 1894-95, he took 8 for 43 in the second innings. But Trott, one of the most successful imports of all time, succumbed to drink and gradually his ability waned. Broke and in ill health, he committed suicide at the age of 41.
The Don's last Test innings in Australia. Don Bradman had to retire hurt on 57 against India in Melbourne when he tore a muscle under his left ribs. Shame, really, as he was moving smoothly towards a fifth century in six innings in the series.
The biggest chase in first-class cricket. Yusuf Pathan scored an unbeaten 210 (helped by South Zone, who dropped him five times) to go with his first-innings 108 as West Zone chased 536 to win the Duleep Trophy in Hyderabad. It surpassed the previous highest first-class chase, of 513 for 9 by Central Province against Southern Province in the 2003-04 Sri Lankan domestic season.
A nearly man is born. David Capel had the definitive impossible job when he came into an England side that was looking for the new Ian Botham in the mid-1980s, and after swimming confidently for a time, he soon sank. Quite simply, Capel was not good enough to justify his place with bat or ball, and averages of 15 and 50 from 15 Tests tell the story. He made 98 at Karachi in 1987-88, but he also had 13 scores of 6 or less in 25 innings. His energetic medium pace was pretty innocuous, but he did have a distinguished rabbit: Viv Richards, who he dismissed three times. And he did play his part in one of England's most unlikely successes, as the most sedate of Graham Gooch's four-man seam attack in Jamaica in 1989-90.
Temperamental Indian fast bowler Sreesanth, who was born today, made news as much for his occasional brilliance with the ball as for his propensity for controversy. He figured prominently in two of India's finest wins of the late 2000s - in Jamaica in 2006 and Johannesburg later that year. But it has been mostly downhill since there, what with him getting slapped by Harbhajan Singh after an IPL game, a series of injuries, and declining form. The biggest shock came when he was among three Rajasthan Royals players arrested in May 2013 for the alleged fulfilling of promises made to bookmakers in the IPL. In September, the BCCI's disciplinary committee found him guilty of spot-fixing and banned him for life.
Seemingly plucked straight from the students' union bar, Daniel Vettori became New Zealand's youngest Test cricketer at 18 years 10 days against England in Wellington. He had played only two first-class games. Vettori bowled very respectably, taking 2 for 98, with his left-arm spin, and his first wicket was Nasser Hussain, who had been his first first-class wicket a couple of weeks earlier.
Australia's youngest male cricketer made his debut. At 17 years, 239 days, Ian Craig was hardly out of school when he was picked for the fifth Test against South Africa in Melbourne. A crisp, classy middle-order batsman, Craig started well with 53 and 47 (although Australia lost, despite amassing 520 in the first innings), but his career turned out to be more Jason Donovan than Kylie Minogue: he reached 50 only once more in a further 10 Tests, although he did captain Australia in South Africa in 1957-58.
It's rare for two players to both score two tons in a Test - it's only happened thrice, and the first time was in Adelaide on this day, when Arthur Morris followed in Denis Compton's footsteps in the fourth Test between Australia and England. A less palatable record in this match went to Godfrey Evans: he took 97 minutes to score his first run. Not even Messrs Tavaré, Bailey and Mackay could top that, but New Zealand's Geoff Allott did when he went four minutes better (or worse), in Auckland in 1998-99.
A Graeme Pollock masterclass. Pollock rammed 274 in the second Test against Australia in Durban, including the small matter of 43 fours. It was the highest score in Tests by a South African until Daryll Cullinan went past. It took South Africa to 622 for 9, and Australia were trounced out of sight.
Fidel Edwards, born today, was spotted in the nets by Brian Lara and called up for his Test debut after just one match for Barbados, where he promptly took five wickets against Sri Lanka in Jamaica in June 2003. He added five in his first overseas Test, and six in his first one-day international. Edwards bowls fast and can swing (and reverse-swing) the ball, but when going for out-and-out pace he has often proved costly. In 2008 he took 7 for 87 - his first seven-for - in the first innings of the drawn Test in Napier. But injuries troubled him thereafter, and while he played the IPL, Edwards missed Test cricket between 2009 and 2011. In his first series on return, against India at home, he took 19 wickets in three Tests but lack of consistency cost him his spot in the end of 2012.
The birth of Brendan Taylor, who was fast-tracked into the Zimbabwe national team against Sri Lanka in 2003-04 at the age of 18 after the withdrawal of the rebel players. He scored an unbeaten 60 in Zimbabwe's unexpected win over Australia in the World Twenty20 in 2007, and went on to make his maiden one-day century against Bangladesh in 2009. He took over wicketkeeping duties when Tatenda Taibu dropped out. Later that year he struck his maiden one-day hundred (also against Bangladesh) and followed up with centuries against Sri Lanka and South Africa and finished as Zimbabwe's stand-out batsman at the 2011 World Cup. In June 2011 he was named captain of the national side and he celebrated with four centuries in his first seven Tests in charge. He also piled up hundreds in each innings against Bangladesh in Harare in 2013, the first Zimbabwean to achieve this feat.
Birthday boy Colin Miller's decision to switch from pace to offspin in a club game because of an ankle injury turned his career around. He went on to take 12 for 119 against South Australia and broke Chuck Fleetwood-Smith's 63-year-old record for most wickets in a Sheffield Shield season. It earned him a call-up to the international side at 34 and he remained a reliable performer till his retirement in 2002. His only match ten-for in Tests came against West Indies in Adelaide in 2000. Apart from his skills, he was well-known for changing the colour of his hair.
Birth of a man who was always on the fringes. Brad Hogg, the slow left-arm chinaman bowler, made his debut in the one-off Test against India in the 1996-97 season. On a sharp Delhi turner he got belted for 69 runs in 17 overs, and that was the last Test he played for a long time. However, he made a satisfying comeback into the national side as one of the key members of the team that won the 2003 World Cup. He turned in a few crucial spells in the middle overs and was also handy with the bat. The 2007 World Cup was even more special - 21 wickets at 15.80 as Australia cruised through. He quit international cricket in 2007-08 but at the age of 40, Hogg starred with 13 wickets for his Twenty20 franchise, the Perth Scorchers, in the 2011-12 Big Bash League.
An astonishing Shell Trophy match in Hamilton came to an end. Northern Districts' Alex Tait took 16 for 130, the best match figures in New Zealand first-class history... and ended up losing by 212 runs when Auckland bowled his side out for a paltry 32 in their second innings.
A talented left-hand batsman with a style reminiscent of Brian Lara, Darren Bravo, who was born today, is one of the few young stars in world cricket who feel more at home as the length of the format increases. His first century arrived in Bangladesh, in his tenth Test, and he made it a big one, falling five short of a double. He scored two more in the series in India immediately after. After 12 Tests his run aggregate and average were identical to that of Lara's after 12. He scored his first ODI century against Zimbabwe in 2013 but his most memorable innings so far was his 218 against New Zealand in Dunedin, the highest by a West Indian in a follow-on, which helped his side earn a remarkable draw.
Other birthdays
1903 Jack Dunning (New Zealand)
1911 Dooley Briscoe (South Africa)
1919 Lindsay Tuckett (South Africa)
1955 Saadat Ali (Pakistan)
1968 Imtiaz Abbasi (UAE)
1969 Rajindra Dhanraj (West Indies)
1973 Lulama Masikazana (South Africa)
1980 Kerry Jeremy (West Indies)
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Big-hearted, broad-shouldered Davo
Alan Davidson was a fine allrounder, who has spent his life serving Australian sport in various capacities. By Ashley Mallett
Rob Steen: Who knew the Middle East would one day become the centre of a cricket-lover's universe?
Aakash Chopra: Why the Indian opener would be well advised to shelve the hook and pull in Australia
The home of Australia's first, and possibly last, full-time dealer of his kind is a treasure trove of cricket literature amassed over 45 years. By Russell Jackson
England's problem with attacking batsmanship
Jon Hotten: It has taken the country ages to get over its obsession with defensive batting
Pakistan should not welcome Amir back
The serene team culture cultivated by Misbah and his men shouldn't be allowed to be disrupted by a player with a tainted past
November games need November prices
An early start to the international season, coupled with costly tickets, have kept the Australian public away from the cricket
'I'm a bit disappointed not to get that Test average up to 50'
Mahela Jayawardene reflects on his Test career, and the need to bridge the gap between international and club cricket in Sri Lanka
In 2011, MS Dhoni helped end a 28-year wait for India and gifted Sachin Tendulkar something he had craved throughout his career - to be called a World Cup champion
Coloured clothes, black sightscreens, two white balls: the game of cricket looked so different in 1992. But writing about it now seems more fun than watching it then
Pakistan should not welcome Amir back (181)
The serene team culture cultivated by Misbah and his men shouldn't be allowed to be disrupted by a player with a tainted past
November games need November prices (85)
An early start to the international season, coupled with costly tickets, have kept the Australian public away from the cricket
'I'm a bit disappointed not to get that Test average up to 50' (58)
Mahela Jayawardene reflects on his Test career, and the need to bridge the gap between international and club cricket in Sri Lanka
The inherent dangers of batting (42)
The sickening blow that struck Phillip Hughes is a reminder of the ever-present dangers associated with facing fast bowlers, even while wearing a helmet
A crisis that defines the age (40)
Never mind cricket's absence from free-to-air TV - changes in social attitudes, the demands of work, and an individualistic age are all contributing to a decline in participation


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BOSTON (AP) -- Choochy the poodle is a "runway runaway."
Boston's Logan International Airport officials say Choochy escaped from her kennel as she was being unloaded after a flight from Detroit Saturday night and scampered across runways and taxiways.
Airport spokesman Phil Orlandella says the poodle evaded airport personnel for more than 17 hours and delayed at least eight flights.
About 15 state police, firefighters, operations personnel and even electricians chased Choochy late into the night, delaying flights for up 30 minutes.
Orlandella says the poodle was frightened, tired and hungry when she was finally lured to safety with food early Sunday afternoon.
The dog was treated for minor injuries at an animal hospital and returned to her family.
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a book by Robert Steele Gray
In a near future Western Australia where time machines for personal use can be bought out of a catalog, Aloysius "Spider" Webb is a time machine repairman. He was a member of the Western Australia police, until he was forced to leave under very unpleasant circumstances.
He spends most of his time dealing with idiot customers who don't bother to read the instruction manual, or are upset because they can't travel to some major event in history, and change things. The Department of Time and Space (DOTAS) has rules about such things, and the ability to enforce them. His boss is a thoroughly dislikable person who everyone calls Dickhead, right to his face.
Things get interesting when, one day, a time machine arrives with another time machine inside it. In that second time machine is a female murder victim. DOTAS comes and slaps a Top Secret sign on everything. Things get even more interesting when Spider finds a future version of himself, brutally murdered. Iris Street, the local police Inspector, is called in. She and Spider had a brief, but torrid, affair while he was a cop. It was part of the reason for his abrupt departure.
Spider meets several other future versions of himself, including a ninja type at the end of time. There is one spaceship of "good guys" holding out against the "bad guys," led by Spider's boss, Dickhead. There are also alien beings called vores, who are literally eating the universe from the outside. Back in the present, Spider, Iris and another future version of Spider deal with the aftermath of a woman who, six years previously, uploaded a video to the internet of her suicide by self-immolation. It was in retaliation for her husband having an affair with Clea Fassbinder (the dead woman in the time machine).
This will certainly give the reader a mental workout. The plot may get a little gory, and convoluted, but it is a really good story, and is very much worth reading.
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How species form and what keeps them distinct from each other, even though they can interbreed, is a key question in evolution. Researchers from Taiwan, led by Dr. Jun-Yi Leu, an Assistant Research Fellow from the Institute of Molecular Biology at Academia Sinica, have recently identified genes in three closely-related yeast species that cause sterility, increasing our understanding of how species can remain distinct. The findings will be published next week in the online, open access journal PLoS Biology.
If one species mates with another, the hybrids produced often die or are unable to reproduce. Such hybrids can provide clues about the process of speciation. At the molecular level, one cause of the inability of hybrids to reproduce (reproductive isolation) results from a mismatch between genes, which prevents those genes functioning properly. There are various types of such genetic incompatibility, one of which is a mismatch between genes in the nucleus and those in the mitochondrion (a vital organelle playing a key role in cell respiration, the process by which cells produce energy).
In a previous study, the same team had observed that a nuclear-mitochondrial mismatch caused hybrid sterility between two yeast species. In this study, Dr. Leu and his colleagues attempted to determine whether cytonuclear incompatibility is a common cause of reproductive isolation in yeasts. They investigated hybrids of baker's yeast (Saccharomyces cerevisiae) crossed with two other yeast species - either S. bayanus or S. paradoxus. They revealed that most of the hybrid spores were respiration-deficient, indicating cytonuclear incompatibility. The researchers then went on to identify that the gene MRS1, which encodes a protein (Mrs1) required to remove an intron from the mitochondrial COX1 gene, and the gene AIM22, which encodes a ligase required for mitochondrial protein lipoylation were responsible for the mismatch.
To trace how this incompatibility evolved, they found that changes in three amino acids are sufficient to make Mrs1 incompatible in hybrids. In addition, the functional change of Mrs1 is accompanied by a change of COX1 introns, indicating a coevolutionary relationship.
"Our results suggest that cytonuclear incompatibility can be achieved by multiple molecular mechanisms and it potentially represents a general mechanism of reproductive isolation in yeast species," said Dr. Leu. "It will be interesting to see whether such mitochondrial-nuclear incompatibility is also involved reproductive isolation in other organisms," he added.
Funding: This work was supported by Academia Sinica of Taiwan, National Science Council of Taiwan (grant no. NSC96-2628-B-001-016-MY3) and Human Frontier Science Program (grant no. RGY53/2007). The funders had no role in study design, data collection and analysis, decision to publish, or preparation of the manuscript.
Competing interests statement: The authors declare that no competing interests exist.
Citation: Chou J-Y, Hung Y-S, Lin K-H, Lee H-Y, Leu J-Y (2010) Multiple Molecular Mechanisms Cause Reproductive Isolation between Three Yeast Species. PLoS Biol 8(7): e1000432. doi:10.1371/journal.pbio.1000432
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FM Dial Style Lyrics - Man Overboard
Let's go home.
To a place we can call our own,
we can live there together,
be in love forever
and never have to be alone.
Would you try? Or would you leave me for some other guy?
I have been sitting without you
just thinking about you
When you wake up you will call me
and I will tell you that I miss you so.
and wishing you were here inside.
When you wake up you will call me
and I will tell you that I miss you so.
I make records so that when I'm gone
you can hear me on your stereo.
Love. I think were in love.
I'm so tired, since I met you
I'm always inspired.
I think I could change the world if you were really my girl
and we would have all we desired.
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