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Any full-proof strategy for this achievement? I know there use to be a bugged spot for your healer to stand to make it a lot easier, but that was patched. So any help?
bring 2 tanks.
one will take all watchers ,
when all trash mobs are dead and only wathers and boss are alive, shieldwal and run with watchers to entrance, you will die there, but it should buy enough time to rest od the party safely kill boss.
2 hours of wipefest with one tank
first try with ľ tanks
Two tanks or a sacrificial ret pally or mage have worked fine for me also. I've had the easiest time using a DK or a retadin for it.
Charge in, don't use any AoE type abilities, once the mobs are bunched up on you, have your kiter throw down some AoE (DnD, consecrate+holywrath, or flamestrike,etc) and then start kiting the mobs back towards the entrance. Meanwhile, burn down the boss as fast as you possibly can. He'll usually mindflay right after he makes the ground shake. If you're a warrior, you can reflect that back onto him for significant damage. You'll want to blow all your cooldowns to stay alive during the fight, and DPS will want to blow theirs to kill the boss before the mobs make it back (your kiter is probably dead by now). After the boss dies, the mobs all come back and kill you.
It's pretty easy if you plan on doing it suicide style.
Muffin Man
Sorry if this is an obvious question, but why does the add tank have to die?
What I mean is, can't he tank them some place where the healer can keep tanks both up? Is the damage too high for this, or is there some mechanic on the watchers that you want them far far away?
They each have ridiculous abilities like a poison, blind, and web wraps. If you are in range of these mobs your group will get harrassed to no end.
After a few different tries I found the best way to do this is a complete zerg rush.
Group setup
Prot Paladin (me! :D)
Ret Paladin
DK (unsure of spec, dual wield atleast)
Feral Druid
Holy Priest
I started off by marking up the two Skirmishers. You want these two mobs out of the way ASAP, for as long as possible. I used turn evil on the left hand Skirmisher and the other paladin took the second Skirmisher after I had feared.
As soon as the fear went off I ran straight into the boss and dropped consecrate. Fearing one add didn't agro all 3 packs, so the ret pally had to wait for me to agro everything before she feared.
Once everything was in or close enough to the consecrate I used Holy Wrath. At the same time the DPS started hammering the boss, using all their CD's and doing as much damage as possible. 3 seconds later the ret pally popped off another Holy Wrath.
At one point the DK died from aggroing something (not the boss), but we managed to burn the boss down before anyone else died, me using Divine Protection but no Lay on Hands.
Boss dead, achievement earned we then all got raped by the mobs :D
This kind of sums it up:
Did this pretty easily with a setup of 1 tank + 3dps + 1 happy kitter.
We had a boomkin kite the 3 packs to the entrance by letting her aoe 2 of the packts and have a hunter MD the other pack to her. Then she popt Starfall to get more agro on the packt. Then she would run to the entrance and try to survive for as long as possible and then die.
Meanwhile I just charge the boss. Pop cd and we dps the boss down. We didint have Hero/Bloodlust on the try but it would help ofc.
it's not really needed with kiting, and it is certianly more joyable to do it without ^^ I can give a few tips
Druid healer, the hots keep rolling during blinds and wraps
Shaman of some kind, Heroism/BL and help remove poisons
Ret Paladins and Warlocks both got an AoE stuns which is wastly helpful
I've done it twice with a few groups but this is what we did with a warrior Tank (me), and we also had either a DK dps or Fury warrior dps
1) Killed the adds for the first 2 watchers like normal.
2) Once we got to the 3rd watcher's groups, I charge in, get aggro on them all with a TC. Then I shockwave them all and kite to the entrance.
3) Once I get to the entrance there's usually time for another shockwave, maybe a conc blow for guys out of shockwave range, shield wall, last stand, enraged regeneration,etc.
4) Meanwhile the DK or Fury Warrior is dps tanking the boss while he gets burned down.
We found this way worked the best for us. We tried tanking all 3 watchers but it was just too much. We also tried numerous times to do that ledge thing when you could and we could never get that to work.
I found the easiest way to do it is to zerg rush the whole pack. Don't worry with fears and kiting and CC and nonsense, just blow a lust and zerg the boss down.
You really need a shaman, for poison cleansing totem, you will take too much damage otherwise.
A holy paladin makes a great healer for this, because while zerging the boss down, the Watcher who starts off on the right hand side will get to do at least one of his AOE blind abilities, and bubbling that ability is the only way to get out of it. You can't bubble once you've BEEN blinded by it, so you have to anticipate when he will use it and preemptively bubble. I managed to do that successfully when healing my group through it.
we got it pretty easy... You just need one paladin any spec, but prot w/ 4 Pc T7 is best. Shaman will help but not manditory if your DPS can deliver.
Basically, to start with, we had our DK DPS tank it. He, our healer, And two DPS waited in the back corner by the pond, and I grabbed All 3 watcher groups, starting with an avenger's shield on the shadowcaster... then bolted for the entrance, and stopped about halfway up to it. (Right at the "top" of the window that lets you preview the watcher)
When they all got me down to about 20%, I bubbled, and started spamming holy light (with righteous fury up) for all I was worth. when they got down to the entrance of the cave, I cancelled divine shield, they all came back for me, and the boss died about the same time I did. We all got the achievement. We tried interrupting the disorient, poison cleansing totem for the aoe poison, etc... but really, the kiting thing just makes it work smooth.
This achievement is super easy.
I did it with:
Myself ( DK tank )
RET pally
Disc priest
Holy Pally
NOTE: the above was NOT the best group to do this with =)
Holy pally face pulled ALL the adds, dropped a concerate and stunned them all while running like a bat out of hell for the instance entrance, AS soon as he had aggro I engaged the boss, and we had about 35 seconds of uninterupted DPS time, then the adds caught him, killed him, and came and killed us =)
But we got it.
We probably would have survived but our holy paladin was laughing so hard over vent we weren't paying attention to the returning adds and they bent our disc priest over and had their way with him.
So I just did this today.
Group Comp:
Holy priest
Balance druid
Survival Hunter
Blood DK
Prot warrior ( me )
We had the DK throw on some tank gear to tank the boss. I did a heroic throw to one watcher, taunted another, hunter MD'd the last one to me. Thudnerclap + shockwave and ran the hell out. When they got back to me, I popped my CDs and stunned them again, then they killed me. When they got back to the boss, the priest popped Divine Hymn's to incapacitate them and killed the boss, then they died :D
zerg + blust
aoe stuns, shield wall, aoe fear etc, but basically blust.
We used an interesting strategy on this:
one tank, prot warrior
one healer, resto shaman
three dps: ret paladin, death knight, boomkin.
Ret paladin bubbles and pulls all three groups over to the boomkin.
The boomkin drops starfall to gain aggro on all the mobs, then shifts to cat form and dashes towards the entrance.
The boss died right as the rest of the mobs returned to us after killing the poor druid.
When I did this after the patch where they fixed a bunch of the little cheats for the heroic achievements my group was me (prot warrior), DK DPS, Mage, Resto shaman and holy pally. We did this the proper way pulling each group individually and killing the skirmishers, shadowcasters and warriors but leaving the watchers alive. Shaman kept poison cleansing totem down and both healers kept the disease off me. We had 2 healers because of the aoe blind, if someone resists they automatically get killed which was usually our healer. On the kill no one died. We tried kiting with a hunter for about 45 minutes before having the hunter switch to her resto shaman and got it in two shots like that.
We used the 1 person kite the rest of the mobs and zerg the boss method.
Our group
1 Tank - Prot warrior
1 Healer - Resto Druid
3 DPS - Elemental shaman, DK, Fury warrior
The healer put rejuiv, regrowth, and 3 liveblooms on me so that when I did start to take damage, they would get aggro. They then hurricaned the middle of 2 groups to get aggro on them and moonfired the 3d, popped catform and ran toward the entrance.
Rest of us went into the boss, popped heroism and zerged away. I still had to sheild wall to make sure I lived cause we had one of the adds that didnt go with the healer but by the time they kiled the healer and came back the boss was dead.
Took us probably 3-4 attempts with the zerg method
We did the kiter way. Boomkin Starfall'd (I think) to aggro everything, I taunted boss and the drood ran off to the entrance. Popped a lust and we just barely got the boss down - healer died soon as the adds came back and the boss was still at about 20% I think. Hahah messy.
Just out of curiosity, this "kite and zerg" method.. is this being done on it in normal mode, or in Heroic? Is it even possible in heroic?
edit: Ignore me, it has to be done in heroic. I'm just stupid. But I am curious, does anyone know if warrior's intimidating shout will work for this? Thinking of using the (apparently often successful) strategy of just charging in and popping every cooldown and tanking the lot while obliterating the boss. Something like Intimidating Shout would give at least a few seconds of relief...
edit 2: btw, I don't actually care about the achievement itself, I'm just sick of getting stuck at this boss :D
They way I did it was our druid tank charged in straight to the boss. Shaman popped lust and I healed for all I was worth while everyone burned. We killed the boss easy and then got overwhelmed by adds but got achievement so the death was worth it. PvP trinkets are nice to have too.
Is the kite strategy still legit?
I tried this the other day (maybe a week ago at most) and when the kiter got to the entrance the boss was at about half. As soon as the kiter died, the boss disappears and the encounter resets.
So either this has been patched and you are suppose to RNG zerg your way to the achievement or its because none of my group was touching any of the mobs initially except the kiter.
Group Comp:
Boomkin (kiter)
Feral tank (me)
Holy Paly
Ret Pally
Tried kiting 3-4 times with the exact same result each time. Frustrating since its my very last "hard" achievement needed for my mount.
Is the kite strategy still legit?
Group Comp:
Boomkin (kiter)
Feral tank (me)
Holy Paly
Ret Pally
The kite strat is still legit. The easiest way with *that* group set up would be if you pull the individual groups, kill the two adds and keep the Watchers alive. Keep in mind the Watchers can be stunned, so you could effectively have the Ret Paladin taunt the 3 Watchers off you (Righteous Defense), stun them (Holy Wrath), then book it towards the entrance. En route he has LoH and can bubble them off himself (Once they're near the entrance) and break the bubble after a while to get them to come back. Probably even stun them again.
This method is virtually foolproof with a decent composition. When I got it one of our DPS died, had time to run back inside, back out since he was facing the wrong way (Kiter died as he was zoning out again), zone back in, sprint past the Watchers and help finish the boss off.
I'm not sure if being able to zone in on that boss is a bug or not, but he did it
Not sure if they made this easier to do or what but we did this second try with a funky group that wasn't geared to the teeth.
Holy Pally
Holy Priest
DPS druid (not boomkin, the melee one)
Prot War
We are all in heroic gear with some 10 man nax. I am probably the most geared in the group. (holy Priest)
We had the lock lifetap so he started with like 60% health, The tank rushed in the pally threw a big heal on the lock and ran away, everything followed the pally we all DPS'd threw some heals, GS and the tank blew his cooldows so I could DPS too. We killed it with time to spare before the rest of the mobs returned. Just a note that druid is usually our off tank so he was using a mix of off spec and tank gear.
Just out of curiosity, this "kite and zerg" method.. is this being done on it in normal mode, or in Heroic? Is it even possible in heroic?
edit: Ignore me, it has to be done in heroic. I'm just stupid. But I am curious, does anyone know if warrior's intimidating shout will work for this? Thinking of using the (apparently often successful) strategy of just charging in and popping every cooldown and tanking the lot while obliterating the boss. Something like Intimidating Shout would give at least a few seconds of relief...
edit 2: btw, I don't actually care about the achievement itself, I'm just sick of getting stuck at this boss :D
I should think intimidating shout would not work. They're all undead.
Done this twice now with pure zerg tactics.
1s try we had two retri paladins repentaced the skirmisher on the pull (fear or shackle works too), then blew bloodlust/heroism and burned him down. Holy pala healing with beacon on himself and ready to bubble (he tanks the caster but they don't hit too hard). Boss died before blind happened. Didn't even wiped once, got it first try.
Second time we had hunter freezing 1 skirmisher and disc priest shackle the other, then burned the boss before blind. Binding heal ftw cause of the casters. This time it took quite a few tries with the priest pre-healing usually or slow shackle so my glyphed extra radius thunderclap broke it :( Multi-shot broke shackle once too o_O Disc priest has no hit so shackle broke of it's own twice. And all those times the healer got raped followed by a painful wipe.
Just did this again last night without CC this time. Pulled first grp and killed small adds. Waited for second grp and killed small adds again. Then charged and pulled last grp+boss and bloodlusted. Two deaths, so not even a wipe :) But called for a load of emergency buttons, healthstone from earlier raid, pot, shieldwall and basically everything I could think of. And got lucky also cause when the blind hit I had my Shieldwall up.
this achievement is very difficult. i finally pulled it off after trying most of the methods described here. final group make up was DK (dps), boomkin, mage, priest, prot warrior (me) - all very well geared.
we tried the zerk everything method, which was a major failure for us. web wraps, party-wide blinds, skirmishers running amok, etc.
tried sending the moonkin into bear form and agro + run, but he couldn't live nearly long enough, and it left us 1 dps short.
tried pulling groups and killing small adds, but the big guys just cause too much chaos.
final strategy was for me to pull the room and run, then let the dps DK tank and everyone else zerk the boss. had the druid parked in the tunnel in stealthed kitty form to start.
-bloodrage + armor potion
-shoot leftmost caster, heroic throw (for silence) rightmost caster, taunt middle watcher
-intervene druid, charge a spider (macro'd), red rabbit run boost
-turn around just before the entrance, pop shield block and spam spell reflect & stuns
-at ~50% health, pop last stand + enraged regen
-next time at 50%, pop shield wall + health potion
after a few tries at this, i managed to die almost exactly when the boss went down and we got it. i don't think this one can be done with average gear.
Tried this with a few setups, the one tac that worked for us was having a lock make his portal thingie - grab most adds and "beam" away and run toward entrance. While we dealt with the boss and a few adds.
Not pretty, but it worked :-)
thanks for this our group spent forever trying to do it
our group was
human dk tank 39999hp buffed
human dk dps (me) 3.5/7k dps
dwarf hunter 3k
human mage (web duty)
nelf resto druid
what we found usefull is when we pulled each watcher and killed the two adds then pulled the second watcher and repeat
we then went ape s*** on the boss while the druid was despelling poisons and mage was breaking webs after half a hour we gave up but if the hunter was competent at his sppec we woulda got it done
note for dks aod is not a good idea for this fight the taunt watchers around the boss and make it harder for the group to avoid killing one
Did this with:
Tank: Prot warrior ~34k hp unbuffed (Me)
1 Elemental Shaman ~4.5k Dps
1 Frostfire mage ~4k Dps
1 Boomkin ~5.5k dps
1 Holy priest with 2400 Spell Power
The tank charges in using last stand and enraged regeneration on the pull, and right after the first thunderclap, Shaman lusts. About 15 seconds in, tank will pop shield wall because ~17 seconds in he will get webbed for 10 seconds and will be unable to avoid any incoming damage. Boss should be dead in less than 30 seconds. Did this in 1 shot, downside is that you wipe afterward due to poisons and the adds that randomly aggro to any party member.
Just did this the other night. No kites no zerg.
Me--warrior tank
Ret pally---5k dps
We tried three times to do the zerg method all turned out to be wipes.(heals webbed or myelf webbed and i was having trouble holding agro on 10 mobs with dps going crazy)
What we did was pull the first group kill the little guys pulled second and did same third was a repeat. So now I had the three watchers and the boss. Popped hero burned the boss then the other guys. No deaths and done on the first try. The mage was our lowest dpser so we had her on anyone that got web wrapped. We also had a cleansing totem down to help with piosons. One thing to watch with this strat is the watchers were at 15-20% due to incidental aoe when he died so you have to make sure you don't accidentally kill one of them. This is also doable without the shammy (my GL did it the night bofore without one) the sham just makes it easier.
I did this with:
Tank:Blood DK
Healer:Resto Shaman
dps: Ret pally
dps:Arms Warrior
dps:Shadow Priest
We pulled the trash groups one at a time, killed the trash, I kept tanking the watcher and immediately pulled the next group, killed it's trash, until it was all three watchers and the boss left, nuke the boss, kill the watchers, win. I tanked all four just fine.
It took a few tries to get everyone to see how we were doing it, ( 2 or 3) and then we got it fine.
Charge in, don't use any AoE type abilities, once the mobs are bunched up on you, have your kiter throw down some AoE (DnD, consecrate+holywrath, or flamestrike,etc) and then start kiting the mobs back towards the entrance. Meanwhile, burn down the boss as fast as you possibly can. He'll usually mindflay right after he makes the ground shake. If you're a warrior, you can reflect that back onto him for significant damage. You'll want to blow all your cooldowns to stay alive during the fight, and DPS will want to blow theirs to kill the boss before the mobs make it back (your kiter is probably dead by now). After the boss dies, the mobs all come back and kill you.
This is pretty much the way we did it - I (Prot Paladin) picked up the adds and the boss and the DK tank taunted the boss from me - nobody used anything with an AoE component and the DK blew his tanking cooldowns to avoid the healer putting out too much healing threat.
I then ran for all I'm worth back to the entrance and tanked them as long as I could with trinket cooldowns, Lay on Hands, etc. When it looked like I was about to die I bubbled and they released aggro and ran back toward the boss room - the boss died while they were in transit :)
I'm not sure how anyone is having any difficulty whatsoever with our current gear levels.
I did this a month or two ago with the stand 5-man group.
Prot Pally
Disc Priest
Enhance Shammy
Feral Druid
Blood DK
I open the pull with AS on the boss, HotR then Holy Wrath + Consecrate and let the DPS lay it on him. Pop your defensive cool downs and have the DPS pop their offensive cool downs. Our kill took 13 seconds or something. Easily zergable, no kiting involved.
EDIT: We didn't even wipe, we were able to control the adds afterwards as well.
I used the method of Mert. It seemed the most full-proof way of doing it(though admittedly I hadn't done it since I was in Nax10 gear so I'm pretty certain with ToC25 gear it's easily handled without a kite).
Typically, I was protadin and I'd pull the adds and drag them to the entrance, as soon as I was clear, the group would grab the boss(generally a DPS DK or Retadin DPS tanking the boss) and I'd keep myself alive basically until the boss died, at which point I'd usually go down myself.

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The Next Christians
Room C4
There is a NEW Sunday school series specifically for college age/young adults (18 years old through 30 somethings) at Bethel Baptist Church. We are working on the series, The Next Chrisitians by Gabe Lyons. Classes begin at 9:45am in room C-4.
Genesis One:
Creation, Evolution, and the Age Of The Earth
Room C8 | Teachers: Kathy Kennelly, Steve Apsey, and Randy Hroziencik
Does the Bible make it clear that the earth is only 6,000 years old? Why do some Christians believe that the earth is billions of years old? Is it likely that God used evolution as his means of creating? Why do many Christians believe that evolution is a bad thing? Did the Egyptian beliefs about creation affect Moses' wording in Genesis 1? Did Adam and Eve really exist? Can we use creation as a way to more effectively share our faith?
These and other questions will be addressed in our group-discussion on origins. We will use the Bible, video, and lots of hand-outs in order to better equip us to engage fellow believers - and, more importantly, non-believers - in the doctrine of creation. Even though the modern world is often skeptical of the truth regarding the very first chapter of the Bible - or even the very first verse of the Bible, for that matter - we can have confidence that creation is truth.
The Gospels and the Writings of Paul
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|A study of the religious, political, cultural, and literary background of the Gospels and Paul's Epistles. In addition to reading the Gospels and Paul's letters to the churches devotionally, we focus on finding the meaning of Scripture by listening to the Holy Spirit's leading and prompting. We first study the history of religion, culture, politics, and written and oral language at the time of Jesus and the early church. We will thus know more about the theological debates between Jesus and the Pharisees, the cultural influences stemming from Jewish and Greek philosophy and societal norms, and about the language and writing style of the Gospel writers -- and also Paul.
Just for examples: we might discover more about Jesus' unique use of parables and poetic forms, the theological distinctions between John's and Matthew's Gospels, and the role of Pharisees, Sadducees, women, and Gentiles in the first century. Bring your Bibles, your favorite Commentaries, and your reflections.
The Life and Ministry of Jesus
Learning Center | Teacher: Mark Templeton
|Journey back to the time of Jesus. Marvel at the magnificence of Herod's palace. Scramble among the ruins of Qumran, and wonder at the simplicity and wisdom of Jesus' parables. Discover how the events of Jesus' day impacted his life, ministry and communication. Filmed on location in Israel this unique video series brings God's Word to life with astounding relevance.
Andy Stanley DVD Series
Room C4 | Teacher: Rob Potter, Tim Reynolds
The first of three offerings this quarter will be "Prepared." We've all been there. Somebody makes a derogatory comment about faith, the Bible, or Christianity. You know you should say something. But what? What do you say when there's little time and even less interest? In this 3-part series, Andy Stanley prepares believers to respond quickly and respectfully to any question regarding faith, the Bible, and Christianity.
Women's Class: Hope - An Essential Element
Library | Teacher: Laura Wintory
|A message of hope is what we need. Spoken not just with words, but lived in community.
We will look at how we are transformed as we put our hope in God. God does not intend for us to live this life without hope. It is that crucial. So in our low times, how is hope renewed and sustained? And how can we share it with others?
The Women's Class is a community of women that pray together and learn from God's Word together. We desire that what comes out of our time together impacts our everyday lives
...those who hope in the Lord will renew their strength. They will soar on wings like eagles; they will run and not grow weary, they will walk and not be faint. Isa 40:31 NIV
Life of Abraham
Room A3 | Teachers: Tim Carlson, Terry Stewart
Men, join us as we study the faith journey of Abraham.
We can learn from this man of faith and from his relationship with God.
"As iron sharpens iron, so one man sharpens another." -Proverbs 27:7
Newcomers Class
Room A5 | Teachers: Lee Johnson, Scott Wilson
Newcomers class is offered to those who may be seeking membership into Bethel. This class will discuss the basic doctrines of the Christian faith as well as what Bethel Baptist Church is all about. While a requirement for those wishing to become members, no one needs to become a member who takes the class. Great discussions!


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Clayton Kershaw throws no-hitter as Dodgers rout Rockies
BY JOE RESNICK Associated Press June 19, 2014 12:27AM
Los Angeles Dodgers starting pitcher Clayton Kershaw throws against the Colorado Rockies during first inning of a baseball game in Los Angeles, Wednesday, June 18, 2014. (AP Photo/Chris Carlson)
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LOS ANGELES — Clayton Kershaw pitched his first no-hitter Wednesday night, striking out a career-high 15 and allowing his only baserunner on a throwing error by shortstop Hanley Ramirez in the Los Angeles Dodgers' 8-0 victory over the Colorado Rockies.
Kershaw's gem gave the Dodgers the only two no-hitters in the majors this season. Josh Beckett tossed one May 25 in Philadelphia.
"I am so amazed," Kershaw said. "Beckett told me he was going to teach me how to do that, so I have Josh to thank."
Cheered on by his wife in the stands, Kershaw (7-2) retired his first 18 batters before Corey Dickerson led off the seventh with a slow bouncer to Ramirez. His throw on the run went wide past first baseman Adrian Gonzalez for a two-base error — ending any chance for a perfect game.
That was it for the Rockies against Kershaw, a two-time NL Cy Young Award winner.
Ramirez was back in the lineup after leaving Tuesday night's game with a bruised ring finger on his throwing hand, the result of a sharp grounder by Dickerson than deflected into short center field for a double.
The only other time the Dodgers threw two no-hitters in one season was 1956, when the team was still in Brooklyn. Carl Erskine and Sal Maglie turned the trick that year.
One batter after Dickerson reached base, rookie third baseman Miguel Rojas backhanded Troy Tulowitzki's grounder behind the bag and let fly with a strong throw to first that Gonzalez — a three-time Gold Glove winner — scooped out of the dirt to keep the no-hitter intact.
Ramirez was replaced on defense by rookie Carlos Triunfel to start the eighth.


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Algerians headed to the polls Thursday to vote in an election in which President Abdeaziz Bouteflika is expected to win a fourth term. Bouteflika, 77, has been in power for 15 years, but has rarely been seen in public since he suffered a stroke in 2013. In 2008, Bouteflika amended the constitution, which had set a two-term limit on the presidency, so that he could run for a third term. His move this year for re-election has sparked a protest movement called Barakat, or "Enough." Several opposition parties are boycotting the election saying it is slanted in favor of the president and voter turnout will likely be low, especially among the youth. Supporters of Bouteflika at the polls Thursday expressed the importance of stability and continuity. Of the five candidates running against the incumbent, Ali Benflis, Bouteflika's former prime minister, is expected to be the main challenger.
Jordanian fighter jets fired upon and destroyed three vehicles attempting to cross the border from Syria in a rare strike Wednesday morning. An army statement said the air force sent repeated warnings, however the vehicles did not stop. The army did not mention whether the vehicles belonged to the Syrian government or an opposition group, however a Jordanian security source said they appeared to be rebels and Syrian state media said the vehicles did not belong to the Syrian army. Jordanian spokesman, Mohammad al-Momani, said the government is increasingly worried about "cases of infiltration" and the lack of security around the border.
- The International Atomic Energy Agency reported that Iran has complied with a nuclear deal with world powers, diluting or converting most of its higher-grade uranium.
- Militants attacked a military base outside the northern Iraqi city of Mosul Thursday killing at least 10 soldiers.
- Israeli and Palestinian peace talks are set to resume Thursday after a one-day postponement, which Palestinians say was to allow for the participation of U.S. envoy Martin Indyk.
- Oman's Foreign Affairs Minister Yusuf bin Alawi in an interview with al-Hayat newspaper said the recent crisis between Qatar and neighboring Gulf states has been resolved.
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"With the blessing of the military, Algeria's president Abdelaziz Bouteflika is all but guaranteed to win a fourth term. But among the Algerian public, speculation continues about the nature of the president's relationship with the military, in particular its intelligence branch, the Department of Intelligence and Security (DRS). The relationship between the president and the DRS is especially relevant in light of Bouteflika's fragile health and the uncertainty over who will run the country in his absence and how his successor will be chosen. The recent and unusual public criticism against DRS officials from Bouteflika's own party is an example of why some believe that throughout his tenure Bouteflika has managed to keep the military and DRS in check. However, despite appearances to the contrary, he never constituted a threat to the military's strong grip on Algerian politics, and the DRS remains as strong as it has ever been. In his previous three mandates, few serious structural reforms threatened the country's military and its security apparatus. Even the little restructuring that he did undertake of the country's main security branch were largely cosmetic and should not be misconstrued for significant change."
'Learning from the Past in the Iranian Nuclear Dispute' (Tytti Erasto, MERIP)
"The controversy over the Iranian nuclear program is in many ways a product of the US-Iranian conflict. The United States and Iran are in the grip of mutual negative perceptions that, in turn, have been reinforced by the escalatory dynamics of the nuclear dispute. After years of seeming diplomatic deadlock, these dynamics suddenly changed for the better in the autumn of 2013. The positive trends culminated in November, when Iran agreed with the five permanent UN Security Council members and Germany, the so-called P5+1, on a confidence-building deal known as the Joint Plan of Action (JPA). Given the record of diplomatic non-achievement, the deal is a historic development. The parties began to implement the JPA in January 2014; it is supposed to pave the way for far more ambitious next steps.
Although the de-escalation and the JPA are generally associated with the election of Hassan Rouhani as president of the Islamic Republic and the subsequent change in Iran's foreign policy orientation, these developments cannot be fully understood without taking into account the simultaneous changes on the Western side. Indeed, the summer of 2013 was a crucial period of introspection on both sides when fixed ideas and narratives began to give way to more flexible positions. The following discussion, based on interviews with negotiators and diplomats on both sides, shows that each side was reaching a critical point in a learning process around the time of Rouhani's victory."
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Regional forecast for Yorkshire & Humber
Chilly evening, cloudy overnight with rain later.
This Evening and Tonight:
Clear at first this evening, with a frost in places, but soon becoming cloudy with hill fog, and some patchy light rain possible. Outbreaks of more persistent rain will spread from the south in the early hours of Wednesday. Minimum Temperature 0C.
Overcast and dull, with hill fog and outbreaks of rain throughout the day. Feeling cold. Temperatures a little higher along coasts, but still chilly in the southeasterly breeze. Maximum Temperature 8C.
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The Korean Presbyterian Church of Albany has recently been given a gracious grant of money, and the Church has decided to create a Korean language class for any member of the MuJiGae community-- no experience or knowledge is necessary!
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Air Products (Lehigh Valley, Pa.; www.airproducts.com) has recently signed contracts with more than 20 recycled-copper manufacturers in China to provide its oxy-fuel solution, and about half of them are already onstream and running. The solution helps to improve productivity and material qualities compared to conventional air-fuel technologies, as well as decrease harmful emissions and reduce energy consumption and fuel cost throughout the operation.
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Volcanoes fingered in oceanic mass extinction
Scientists reckon they've confirmed what caused an oceanic mass extinction during the late Cretaceous period, 93 million years ago, provoked by a sudden, and previously unexplained "anoxic event" which deprived bottom-dwelling species of oxygen. According to a report in Nature, the cataclysm was provoked by massive undersea …
93 million years ago, the Caribean kills off all sea life with a volcano.
50 million years ago, the Caribean kills off all dinosaurs with a meteor hit.
It's about the time something else comes from the Caribean, killing off humans.
I welcome and encourage our great alien overlords to come and save us (slavery is better than death)
This just in...
In related news, Gordon Brown, and to a lesser extent his finger puppet Alastair Darling, have announced a new 'green' tax on volcanoes.
2 extintions @ the same place?
First we are told that the dinosaurs were wiped out by a meteorite impact in the Gulf of Mexico, 65M years ago. Now they are suggesting a previous extension 28M years in the same region. Is it just because the GOM is in the Americans back yard, or have not yet looked elsewhere yet?
I was drinking in a bar with a few of my mates and somehow the conversation got around to shower habits. He was horrified to find out exactly how much me and my other mate washed of ourselves.
"You actually wash... your volcano???" he asked. Hence the laugh when I read that headline :)
Hot spot
$64 million dollars? Used to be $64k in my day, but that's runaway inflation for you, I suppose.
Maybe one of those magmatic hot spots like they have under Big Island in Hawaii. Could still be there, I suppose, what with a lot of the Windward Islands being volcanoes. But that sounds like a lot of magma. Things like this and the Deccan Traps make Krakatau look like a tuppenny banger.
Re: Bugger
We should invade the Caribbean! They are obviously deploying WMD's!
(PS: "Give me Victory or give me Death! Actually, just the victory bit is fine...")
Oh come on! Outrageous..
Steven Turgeon.....
Massively fishy if you ask me!!!
Here's Steven and his best friend, Kevin:-
Paris 'cos I'd be a bottom-feeder for her....
Is it April 1?
The one with the big fish on it...
$64 million dollar question...
is that like an LCD display or a PIN number?
Re: 2 extintions @ the same place?
And don't forget that the Bermuda triangle is in that general area too. Sort of.
I for one welcome our new (sic) osmium-balance destroying volcanic overlords.
You mean is wasn't...
Global Warming? Isn't that the cause of everything (including the Ice Age(s))
Gone in 60 seconds...
er, that's "Give me LIBERTY or give me death." Bit of a difference, no?
Not to worry, Ollie Stone will make a movie about it. Bush/Cheney and the oil conglomerates are responsible, of course. The plot gets weird when Al Gore and The Righteous Nannies Of Gaia And The Environment use a stolen time-travel device to try and stop this mess but are, instead, the possible cause.
Paris, because she makes about as much sense as what I just said...
Point of FACT - Dinos were ALREADY dying off 69 - 66 MYA, but I digress ...
A point of fact (do some reading of REAL research) is that Dinosauria and other specialized life forms of the Cretaceous were well into the extinction process (not "extension" - Andy Barber) 2 to 10 MY BEFORE the K-T "boundary" with fewer than a half dozen "Dinos" amin distinct species left of the 25 to 40 that existed during the Cretaceous period. There is ALSO fossilized evidence that a few small (pigeon sized) Dinos lived PAST the so called Iridium line.
The BIG issue that the K-T Asteroid nuts can NEVER explain, and always hide from, is WHY far more delicate species as tree and pond frogs, birds (really dinos) turtles; all Croc and Alligator species (even though the oceans with supposedly devastated), a few thousand insect species that don't burrow, all the Shark species - especially the ones that inhabit the Caribbean and Gulf of Mexico, et al DIDN'T BECOME EXTINCT!! The "asteroid extinction" is pure bullshit with little hard evidence and only conjecture.
The Iridium line at the K-T boundary as proof is nothing. The constant quote as seen in the media or Discovery programs is that "Iridium only comes from outer space in asteroids and is not present on Earth" - BS! What the hell do you think the Earth is made up of? The same solar system creating rubble that IS ASTEROIDS! Iridium, a radioactive mineral, i plentiful in the core and mantle of Earth and EVERY deep magma volcanic activity spews Iridium in an Eruption! In a world-wide Volcanic cataclysm such as at the end of the Permian, the Triassic and the Cretaceous Periods (the Deccan Traps and Siberia flows are proof) would have spread Iridium world-wide enough to account for the "Iridium line" at the K-T boundary.
There are more paleontologists with biology backgrounds that don't except the asteroid theory, than there are geologists and the "sky is falling" astronomers with NO biological training, that do. The skeptics just don't get any press because the media loves cataclysms and mass murders from outer space.
While impacts may have been a contributing factor in localized extinctions - that's the only evidence there is, it's mother Earth that is always the killer. The big question is, when will YOU be next ... you Global Warming criminals.
And yes, my degree is in Vertebrate Paleontology ... I only bash Apple as a hobby.
Death is best
You get to come down here and party on indefinitely, yay!
Only trouble is, we can't turn the heating down.
Ar, me geddo a nice flame grilled burger!
If you're going to pick on others for their spelling, you might consider getting your own house in order. That should be "accept", not "except", and that's only the most egregious of your mistakes. (Most are punctuation errors.)
Normally I don't pick on such things myself, if only because I make mistakes too, but your hypocrisy tends to overcome my usual sweet nature.
P.S. I'm actually an embedded software engineer by vocation, but I'm currently between jobs. Webster-bashing is just something I do to fill time until the next hire.
My theory?
A huge meteorite hits Planet Earth and does all sorts of stuff. Part of that stuff is a boing that creates New Zealand and Iceland and forces other lava to the surface (either under water or above water in, say, India as well otherwise we might be given to thinking that the lava arose just because it felt it should?)
So, the theory runs, it is not a single event but a chain of events based on a big reverberating boing after meteoric impact (a pretty big one at that).
Proof: I don't have any (but I think a lot :) )
64 Zimbabwean dollar question more like.
Who the fsck cares how the dinosaurs died.
They're dead and gone and finding out how they dies will not do anything useful in the world except keep paleontologists busy (useful because without bones to play with they'd probably meddle with other more important things).
We need to keep paleo-biologists, paleo-geologists and their ilk around...
if only to fuck with the Young Earth Jeebus-freaks and their 6000-year-old view of reality.
(Paris 'cos hey, it's Friday)
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Hello, Vertebrate Paleontologist; Hello embedded software engineer... I'm a marine biologist by qualification, an environmental scientist by vocation and fix up computers that should have died years ago as a hobby. I only look at pr0n because I don't want the government to know that I spend most of my time bashing them on this forum whilst looking for stable drivers for ancient, old and end-of-line hardware; oh, and playing really stupid computer games when I should be out molesting children like any self respecting male (gotta live up to the allegations in the press...) WTF am I doing on this page?
Oh yes, extinctions... bit of a pisser for the old dinosaurs but what the hell... we'll be staring in our own extinction level event soon enough anyway. Religious fervour anyone; accidental uNclear explosion setting off retaliatory strike for one? Alien invasion from OuterSpace (or natural response to Japanese Knotweed at a push); stray comet perhaps; lethal pandemic maybe? Ah - or total global economic collapse and subsequent mass starvation brought on by decades of agricultural mismanagement, systematic financial abuse and stupid "protect the minority" laws... it all ends the same way. I suspect that a hundred thousand generations from now people of a species descended from cockroaches will be asking themselves why it was that such an enightened and advanced species as the humans still couldn't keep it together for a fraction of the time the dinosaurs managed.
@ Webster Freakout
My recollection is that the persuasive evidence for an extra-terrestrial origin of the iridium is the thinness of the deposit, and its worldwide distribution. If the iridium was spewed out in the long-term vulcanism of the Deccan eruption, you'd expect its stratigraphic distribution to be broader. Coupled with the discovery of the Chicxulub impact, it looks pretty persuasive.
I remember Stephen Jay Gould did an interesting statistical analysis of the distribution of fossils in the upper Cretaceous which ran counter to your assertion that the Dinosaurs were already in decline. I think it's one of the essays in "Dinosaur in a Haystack".
I'm prepared to believe it was a combination of both, with vulcanism contributing to environmental decline, and the impact the coup de grace that finally did for the dinosaurs.
Anyway, I only took Mesozoic v-pal as an option a good twelve years ago, so I bow to your superior knowledge in this area.
"er, that's "Give me LIBERTY or give me death." Bit of a difference, no?"
Well, not much. I'd still prefer the "not death" option.
Gianni's [vulcanism contributing to environmental decline]
...That's Illogical, Captain. The mind probe is entirely benign. ...sorry - couldn't help it.
@Webster Phreaky
And the catastrophists still can't make headway against the uniformitarianists....
@Webster Freakout
You're not Ed Conrad, are you?
The heavy use of capitalisation gives it away... ;-)
Please guys!
Give it a rest.
"93 million years ago, the Caribean kills off all sea life with a volcano.
50 million years ago, the Caribean kills off all dinosaurs with a meteor hit."
<evil grin>
Hmm...almost every 50 million years.
93 - 50 = 47.
50 - 47 = 3 million years ago.
That rings a bell, doesn't it? We've been around that long. Coincidence?
Now we know our place in the universe. The Earth is due for a re-formatting, and we're the next tool in line.
</evil grin>
Kevin Kritts - Good Point, VERY well Made.
<Type your comment here> .... LMAO look up.
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James "Jim" Clifford Brown, a longtime resident of Kettle Falls, passed away on Dec. 7, 2013, at the age of 65 in the log home he built and loved. Jim was born on July 15, 1948 in Spokane, the son of Clifford and Bonnie (McCoul) Brown.
Jim spent his early years growing up in Spokane and then moved to Kettle Falls in his sophomore year in high school. He loved sports and was very active in all. Football was his favorite.
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Jim's grandchildren were a very special part of his life. He loved having them around and was always teasing and playing with them. He will never be forgotten in the hearts of all who knew and loved him.
Jim was preceded in death by his parents.
He is survived by his wife, Susan Brown, Kettle Falls; daughters, Stacey Brown, Spokane Valley; Jennifer Thompson and husband, Mick, Kettle Falls; son, Jesse Brown and wife, Sara, Kettle Falls; grandchildren, Devin, Travis, Matthew, Caleb, Jocelyn; sister, Sandy Clarke, Redding, CA; Sharon Stoddard and husband, Tony, Cheney.
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