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What to Bring to a "Pot Luck" Lunch?
- CindyJ Mar 20, 2009 06:38 AM
Normally I wouldn't have any problem coming up with an idea for a dish to bring to a pot luck lunch. But there's a restriction in that we're trying to avoid using foods in the nightshade family. That includes tomatoes, peppers of any type, white potatoes and eggplant. I've got a couple of ideas, but I'm hoping for inspiration here. Does anyone have a good suggestion for a portable dish? It's okay if it needs to be reheated or kept chilled until serving time. Thanks!
re: alwayscooking
At this point it can be for any course. No other restrictions. Eight people.
re: CindyJ
Chicken adobo - holds/reheats well
Roast chicken - hot or cold
Wild rice with cranberries, apples and walnuts
Chicken satay
Lobster mac and cheese
Asian chicken meatballs
Dim sum
Cous cous salad
An elegant green salad and an herb vinaiarette - add some shrimp/chicken
Modified waldorf salad - pears, walnuts, celery in fage
What are the others bringing?
re: cheesecake17
This sounds delicious. I've eaten, but never cooked millet. Ca you give me a little more info about the prep. for this dish?
re: CindyJ
Sure! I found the recipe online but I'm not sure where exactly. It was really easy to prepare and my husband's famiy loved it. Everyone took leftovers for lunch the next day and said it tasted great room temp.
Spread about 3/4 cup uncooked millet in a casserole dish- you can toast it with a bit of olive oil in a skillet if you want. I used a deep white ceramic dish- about 9x13.
Peel and cut a large butternut squash into chunks and put that on top of the millet. Add a few handfuls of dried cranberries. On top of that set a few sprigs of fresh thyme- remove before serving.
When you're ready to cook it, add about two cups of broth- used "no chicken." Bake at 375 or 400 (depends if anything else is in the oven) for about 45 minutes. Take out the casserole, sprinkle a handful or two of shelled sunflower seeds over the top. If it looks dry or there's not much liquid left, add more broth. Cook for about 15 or 20 more minutes, until the squash is soft. Total, I used about the whole container of broth.
If you're making it for the potluck- prepare it up until adding the sunflower seeds. At the host's home, add the seeds and more broth, and bake until reheated and cooked through.
re: cheesecake17
That sounds delicious, and oh-so-healthy! Thanks!
re: CindyJ
You're welcome- enjoy!
re: chef chicklet
These ideas are all getting me hungry. Pinon nuts -- is that the same as pine nuts?
re: CindyJ
yes mam, or use any nut that you like.
Broccoli and pasta. When I was a kid, my mom made it as broccoli and elbows, but choose your shape. Steam broccoli separately, saute garlic & oil, add butter and grated cheese (pecorino or your cheese of choice) on top. The trick is to save a little of the pasta water and add back to the broccoli, garlic/oil and cooked pasta as a whole. Often even better on reheat than initial serving, so it'd be great to make ahead and enjoy the extra deliciousness at the pot luck. HA! That's my first time to use the big D word in a sentence. ;)
re: kattyeyes
Kattyeyes-- would this have to be baked after it's prepared?
re: CindyJ
Hiya! Nope, just heated up. We've never baked it.
Quiche! Beautiful high springform made quiche. Bacon or proscuitto, grilled leeks, mushrooms, aspargus, different to die for cheeses like-creamy fontina, cheddar, and monterey, and much much more. A very spectacular and beautiful quiche.
Keep it in the springform pan, then place it on a cake pedestal under glass. Very nice.
re: CindyJ
Swiss cheese sauce. Sorry for the confusion.
I would do a small dish of stuffed potato halves Sweet potatoes (I assume those are ok). Bake, cut in half and spoon the potato out. Mix the potato with ground turkey, wild mushrooms, onions and herbs, and egg and top with some bacon and shredded cheese, I like gruyere. Bake ahead. These can easily be reheated in an oven or a micro just fine.
I also love stuffed zuchinni which I stuff with a ground chorizzo stuffing, other veggies and cheese. I use small ones and then slice in half, hollow and stuff. Bake ahead and just rehat (micro is fine)
I sweet corn chowder. Serve in cups, It is easy, take in a crock pot.
A simple baked pasta with mushrooms and fennel, some gruyere and fresh spinach. Baked and creamy with a little cream. Simple. Reheat. Oven preferred, but micro will work.
A salad with arugula baby bibb lettuce, roasted onions, mushrooms, some fresh thin sliced cucumber, some fresh apples and cranberries then tossed with a warm sweet vinaigrette and then top with gorgonzola. All you would need is to reheat the vinegar in the micro for just a couple of minutes toss and serve. I like some fresh Parm crisps on top which are really cool.
Turkey meatballs in a nice spicy asian sauce, slow cooked and simple to prepare. Just will simmer until ready. Easy to serve and quick.
How about a marinated roasted vegetable salad. Roast ahead and toss with marinade and served chilled. Add in some large fresh croutons as a semi panzanella salad with some nice fresh cubes of mozarella.
re: kchurchill5
Suddenly I'm feeling overwhelmed with outstanding ideas. A question about the Asian sauce for the turkey meatballs .. just what kind of a sauce would you make? Would you brown the meatballs and then cook them in the sauce?
re: CindyJ
It is sort of a sweet spicy. Let me look it up and get back may be a few minutes. I'm home but have a conference call. Get back with that as soon as I can. It is nothing hard.
re: CindyJ
Able to access my recipe file at home
This makes 2 lbs worth, depends on how big you make the meatballs 20-30.
1 1/2 lbs ground turkey
1/2 lb ground spicy sausage, casing removed
NOTE: You can use all turkey which is fine
1 medium onion fine minced or grated which I prefer. Just a fine mince is needed
3 roasted red bell peppers diced
1 egg
2 tablespoons soy sauce
1 slice of bread soaked in milk and squeezed
1 tablespoon dried parsley
Salt and pepper
1 jar or 1 cup plum preserves (right next to strawberry jam)
1 cup brown sugar
3/4 cup pineapple juice
1 cup rice vinegar (key)
1-2 tablespoons soy depending on taste. I like 1.
1 teaspoons ground ginger
1 tablespoon soy
At the end I use a little of the broth mixed with some cornstarch to thicken for a sauce which is great. Just 1-2 tablespoons is plenty. This is very good.
I mix all the ingredients for the meatballs and form and then chill on a sheet pan in the refrigerator. It just helps firm them up. I saute till lightly brown on each side and then add to the crock pot. Add the sauce and cook 1-2 hrs on high until everything is cooked and bubbly. Simple but very very good. You can do it on a stove too. Just reheat in micro or on stove. Either way works good. A nice sauce.
ME ... I add some red pepper flakes for a spice, just me. Same thing basically. I add the sauce. Good and very flavorful.
re: kchurchill5
The OP would have to check the ingredients in the chorizo-stuffed zucchini, because the zucchini are relatives to eggplant (but don't know about the nightshade part), and the chorizo may contain dried peppers that would create problems. Sounds delish; just may not be a good choice for this particular occasion.
re: weezycom
true, you can use ground turkey too but not as good, but true on the eggplant part, FYI from what I read, zuchinni is not a nightshade, but no worries. Still good for another time
This is a take on one of our favorites. Crunchy and delicious Vietnamese Chicken Salad
Macaroni & cheese (maybe with cubed ham in it as well), Spinach Cabrini, and Pulled Pork were the first things I thought of.
America's Test Kitchen four cheese lasagna (http://www.americastestkitchen.com/lo... recipe is free if you register)
re: Super Salad
That looks DELICIOUS - I'm adding it to my file right now!
cheese strata... layer bread,cheese; mix up eggs and milk with a little s&p and dry mustard for flavor, pour over cassarole, leave overnight in fridge so bread soaks up "custard" bake in the morning; sorry i don't have more specific quantities; can include cooked ham or sausage, if desired
I never bring home any leftovers with a crockpot full of sliced kielbasa heated in either souerkraut, or sweet & sour red cabbage. Just put them together & heat & eat!! Have had a lot of people say this tastes just like something my Grandma used to make. The men especially go nuts for it, dunno why.


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Open source's ardent admirers take but don't give
Open source went mainstream long ago. It's a pity, then, that it's still so poorly understood by many of its most ardent admirers. For example, ask a gaggle of IT executives, as Accenture recently did, why they're heavily adopting open-source software — and adopting heavily, they are: 50 per cent of those surveyed are "fully …
What's the point of requiring a title again?
It's a point well made, but that said relying on what Google is or isn't doing doesn't necessarily translate to what anybody else is doing.
That said I think all of us who have developed OSS software large and small have seen this from the communities at large in code, support and monetary terms. It's hard giving up your time to keep developing, living on noodles and water, in what becomes a full time job with often little reward but the knowledge your code is out there doing it's thing on x thousand servers. It's why I quit doing it full time and only develop OSS on my timetable for my needs - but if everybody did that some great projects just wouldn't exist.
And yes it's always tends to be the guys who are the most militant about open source who are the worst offenders.
All that said I think we all know who the worst real-world corporate offenders are for this. The company that shall remain nameless who have BSD at the centre of their OS, but aren't compatible with anything anywhere. This is the same company who will charge Open Source developers trying to give a damn and fix issues that are specific to their OS - for the privilege of talking to anybody who knows their codebase.
Even Microsoft do a better job than this nameless company, Microsoft are only too happy to talk to Open Source developers about any subject, be it their code, your code or some guys from Redmond discussing (complaining about, actually) the availability [or lack] of porn on the iPhone (no joke this actually happened to me).
All opensource users contribute to it in a way
Even if it is used briefly by someone who will only commit to using an open source program in a decade's time, the critical review they give it is likely to be vital information to developers if they can receive this feedback. Those who rely on open source will start to need to obtain specialist support services for it, and it will often be the specialist support business that contributes changes - in order to keep their customers happy.
You can't admire open source without advocating it which is a significant contribution, so the title of this article is incorrect. Apart from that, thanks for an excellent and well-informed article.
Testing isn't acknowledged
I do quite a bit of development and am very thankful that the users out there give useful feedback and testing that helps the project along.
While the GPL (whiich uses the copyright laws for its muscle) gives protection and acknowledgment for the code writers, there is no such protection for the huge test effort that many organisations and people put in.
Frequently organisations and people contribute patches and test results to developers via private email (not on lists etc). This input is very hard to measure, but it definitely happens.
Maybe not just users
Maybe this also goes for coders. I mean, just taking OSS in a new direction and showing off new stuff could be just the inspiration needed - new UI, new hardware support, or just plain spiffy new stuff could set off discussions and push development in new directions. I'm not saying that sending back the code to the community wouldn't be much more efficient, just that there could be benefits in seeing what others can do without having access to the raw code. After all, that's how much of the present technology got built - MS learning from Apple learning from Xerox PARC etc.
Pot meet pot
Google have just added network throughput improvements to the kernel. Android is being merged back into the tree. They have just open sourced the $100m VP8 (and ffmeg have just improved it). They spend millions each year on Summer of Code. I suspect they're about to liberate Java (a la Novell) Canonical annoy Debian by taking their code and what else?
Great point
The major gripe I've heard from the Debian maintainers is that Ubuntu has been promising for years to contribute, but simply don't. Apparently their record from propogating fixes and changes to packages back upstream is very poor
Canonical contribute to Gnome
According to the Gnome Census, 1% of all contributions to gnome came from Team Ubuntu. (That's 1/16 of what RedHat did, but who's counting...)
See! They give back! They're making the Linux desktop sexy again.
(Of course, they didn't make as many contributions as Nokia, Intel, Fluendo or Novell or of course RedHat.)
And what is the size of Canonical (yet to turn a profit I believe) vs Red Hat (raking it in)? Is Canonical's 1/16 or Red Hat's really so far out of whack?
And even if you don't think it is, Canonical's 1/16 is still better than 0/16 and leagues ahead of the likes of MS.
Believe me, That is for the best!
Ubuntu have the most screwy build tools I have ever seen on a Linux distro - everything is "unbuntified" from the insertion of "ubuntu" into the names of everything, to re-using Debian command-line options to do completely different things.
They follow the same "screw it over"-rule when naming packages: Just because a package is named the same on Debian and Ubuntu it does not mean that it is the same package; oh no, THAT will teach the sad leechers trying to install anything Ubuntu on their filthy Debian system!
Now I like FreeBSD more. At least that is consistently weird, but powerful shit ;-)
FOSS projects have this issue too
I was an "IT executive" needing some translation work done on a GPLed application. I told the developer (a company) that I'd be happy to pay for the work required, as that sounded likea good contribution. Not so, said the developer. You can pay, but the code we cut won't be part of the GPLed package.
I paid, and that product has now become pretty popular, though we never rolled it out to any great extent, as I wasn't sure what the developers' motives were.
Re the thrust of the article, 71% of respondents who /would/ contrinbute seems pretty gratifying to me, and who's to say that some of the remaing 29% wouldn't also do some advocacy or marketing, also useful?
Re: FOSS projects have this issue too
"71% of respondents who /would/ contrinbute"
Exactly the point I was going to make. This isn't the first time Mr. Asay managed to write a whole article around a simple misrepresentation like that. Lies, and all that.
Having worked in an open source consultancy, all code went right back in some repository, and mostly public, though not always announced. A goodly chunk even went right into the public repository of the very public FOSS project we did a lot of work on. That's easy to do with committer status.
I think you were dealing with a company that tried dual licencing, and apparently that's not a very keen idea as it makes people wary of your motives. But then, confused business models usually aren't.
FOSS is FS and OS
That sounds more like an Open Source project rather than a Free Software one. The difference is often not that big and its more around the drivers of the people rather than anything tangible. What you're seeing there is the difference. It doesn't mean all OS projects would do the same, but any FS developers probably would do that.
Contributions, as a lot of others have said, are often difficult to track. Who says there isn't more contributions that whoever they asked didn't know their company did? It wouldn't be the first time management isn't fully up on what their techs are doing.
What percentage are even making code modifications?
I read these companies' profiles as being manufacturing, services and finance. From that, I'd guess they are as likely to have code changes to contribute back, now, as they did previously. AIX users don't hack their kernels. If they replace their AIX with Linux or BSD, they're still not going to hack their kernels.
If you are moving FROM a closed source model TO an open source model, where is your culture of making core changes to the core of the code going to suddenly spring from, in the first place?
Added to that...
Large companies are liable to have a support agreement with someone like Red Hat, these cost a lot of money (so contribution goes back to the FOSS community) but the flip side of this is that, if my experience is anything to go by, your support is not valid if you modify the code.
Think about it this way:
To hackers, open source is pretty much prerequisite otherwise you might as well write the thing yourself.
To techies, the open source buffet means less hassle with procuring, and, often enough, better software, and for some it has the added benefit of being easily able to fix things. Cool.
To managers, it's actually not that great unless they're rooted in tech-dom themselves because it's much harder to quantify. Where does this code come from? Who do I blame? How do I cover my ass against this? Where's the sales guy to buy me lunch?
To executives, the only thing that matters is whether the darned things deliver on the promises made to the executives. How? Psah. Delivery and cost is all they care about.
So, red hat sells a product with support combo, and that's exactly what the executives want. That red hat contributes back to the larger community is not important except as a tool to rouse the rabble, gain some favourable PR, what have you. It's a throw-in. That the reason they get this price is because the underlying thing draws from open source might be useful but isn't really important. So to them, a ban on local modification in exchange for support? They didn't expect their people to do modifications in the first place.
fork avoidance saves money improving bottom line
Red Hat are paid to participate in the community by customers who need software merging upstream but don't have the time or knowledge to do this themselves. If you don't have your code changes to something merged upstream then you will have to recreate your code changes repeatedly, as often as the mainstream version you want to ship downstream with your changes is significantly improved. When you do get your changes merged upstream you'll still have to maintain these, but this is going to be much cheaper as part of the mainstream version than it will be maintaining these changes as a fork.
The idea that Red Hat and similar companies employ so many engineers doing this work full time out of altruism for community relations purposes rather than to make an honest profit by doing something cost effective for their paying customers is ill informed.
Forking hell!
If you make an amendment to an open source project and it is not included into the source (and not contributing is a sure way to make that happen) then you are tied to the version you originally amended. You cannot guarantee that future version will be compatible with your changes. Indeed if your changes are worthwhile you can be pretty sure someone else's code will go in to do the same thing ensuring incompatibly. Any significant changes in the main project made after that point will have to be either ignored or re-written by you. The support burden gets ever larger as time goes on.
I can see a problem in a few years time where free loading companies will be stuck in a kind of 'IE6 lock-in' of their own making: New technology is changing the market but they can't implement it because of a 'special sauce' hack they did years ago to differentiate them in the market.
These things take time
A few years ago, Open source was all "hobby projects" that would never be seen in the corporate or business world.
Now.. Open source is an ecosystem for reducing software development time and cost, and is a valued part of corporate/manufacturing etc. Big multinational companies, government institutions, small business.. All use open source now. Many do so openly. And some of the biggest names in the computer industry are contributing back. 100% contribution is not likely, and of questionable worth.. Realistically.. Does any open source project really need 100companies submitting the same change every day?
Now modifying and keeping the code under wraps is a holdover from the "everything is a trade secret" days. Too much hassle, too much liability and other well worn excuses.
Soon, it will be easier and cheaper to allocate a couple of people to keep up with open source submissions and keep everything ticking along. Then the adoption will surge. Companies will list the open projects they contribute to as a PR bullet point. Money/developers/changes.. All good.
The simple reality that companies like IBM, Google, Sony, Samsung, Apple, Amazon, Ebay, NYSE. LSE and many others have found is that the software is useful. The adoption figures alone prove that beyond doubt.
It will however take time for them to get used to the whole open sharing concept as a means of saving money. But when they do.. Look out closed source world.
Wrong Wrong Wrong
Open source goes back to most of the Unix infrastructure, and the origins of the 'net. Eric Allman wasn't a hobbyist when he wrote sendmail in 1979, nor Paul Vixie when he wrote bind, to take just two examples that remain at the heart of the 'net even today.
What about companies that co-opt the code but then hide
and repackage it?
Some companies continue to be caught doing this. The price/penalties must be higher to keep companies from making binaries and getting patents on non-original code. Patent-issuing countries need to be taught how to access code repositories and to efficiently sleuth out fraudster companies.
Alike and equal are not the same.
The trick corporations use is calling the work Open Source, but only that. The license is the important part.
Free software and open source are not synonymous, but a lot of people make the assumption that if the source code is exposed, that it's free of charge. Microsoft is starting to figure that out with it's Microsoft Research and Connect projects. Despite that these projects are technically Open Source, it's not free software: MS still has an EULA on most non-GPL projects stating that any contributions belong to Microsoft and if they choose to close the source and sell the product, you get no say, no credit, and nothing out of it. Caveat emptor.
As long as that perception exists, more and more businesses will keep doing this.
clueless T executives
it just go to show that a lot of these IT executives are nothing more than a bunch of con artist,
and no surprise that most it project fail and collapse spectacularly
It's not always the company that stops the code going upstream
We use open source as the basis for almost all of our applications, and quite frequently we find useful libraries to which we either cannot contribute, due to the maintainers being extremely inactive, or are discouraged from contributing to due to committer policy of the project.
For instance, for the last 5 years I've been maintaining our own branch of xmlwrapp, because the original author disappeared from the interwebs (and dropped all of his, excellent, software), and someone sandbagged the project on sourceforge (although going back now, looks like it has had some improvements, hmm, might have to merge them in).
Worse than the disappearing maintainer is when your aims, and the aims of the project maintainers differ to the extent that the maintainer flat out refuses to entertain the idea of your change.
In those cases, we have three choices:
we can choose to abandon that library, which is hard to do once you have a body of code using it already
we can choose to fork it publicly, which is a pain to do, you have to then actually support users, respond to bugs - try getting resource for that...
or we can choose to fork it internally, track new releases and integrate our modifications with them as they are released.
Of all these options, the third is typically the cheapest in terms of time and money, so guess which one we do?
Software for nothing and your escrow for free
Spot on. There is also the case where Donna Developer would love to contribute her hacks, but MeanOle Mangement says no. The case for OSS to management though is actually stronger than some previous posters have suggested: when you build on a commercial product which is abandoned (bankruptcy, not making enough money; whatever) you're high and dry. With OSS, you can in the very worst case go it alone. It's like software escrow at no additional cost.
But honestly, I agree with the point that most OSS users do not make changes, certainly none worth committing. I've been using OSS for about 16 years, and have been involved in dozens if not hundreds of projects involving some or all OSS components. Many times I'd expected to have to make modifications to one of those components I'd chosen as a"starting point". Number of times I've had to hack the source of one of those tools in any kind of significant way: once.
Once you've identified a need in an active Apache project say, the likelihood that someone else has identified the same need and come up with a fix or a workaround is very high.
Not quite fair...
google offered to upload the code into the mainline but was knocked back. Think it even says that in the article you linked to.
Anyways, it's getting put merged into the mainline at some point anyway.
Software is a Liability not an Asset
As told to me many years ago by Paul Everitt, then CEO of Zope Corporation:
"Software is a liability, not an asset".
(unless of course your sole business is actually developing software, but that is only a small minority of companies)
It amazed me working in a high street bank, just how much software they had written in house for general admin stuff (I'm not talking trading here, I'm talking general business process stuff). Most of it the orignal author had left and no-one knew how it worked. Yet at the same time they were vary wary of Open Source, as they thought it a risk... HELLO??!!
I managed to get them to at least switch to an Open Source content management system for their Intranet (Plone) but they still very much had the culture of keeping things under their belt. It wasn't the developers as such, but more the management. If anything was to be released outside the bank then they'd need to get their legal department to take a look at it (which invariable didn't know code from a cucumber) and so the process would just stall.
They in the end ended up with an internal fork and a lot more maintenance than they would have done had they been able to commit their work back to the main community and not have to maintain it all themselves.
The largest problems I've found are managers and legal departments that have an inflated view of the value of intellectual property.
It's All A Matter Of Money
Application shareware, like packages, only works if you can make your processes easily fit the systems. As a rule, the fewer users a company has, the more it makes sense to go "off the shelf" but as soon as you move up to middle to large sized operations, custom kit makes money sense.
Consider a shop with 500 people all using the same set of "off the shelf" applications. Each worker has a 2-inch thick 3-ring binder with all the manual procedures needed to fudge the systems to fit the process, and calculators to perform the math the system doesn't have the basic functions to handle. (Yes, really.)
Provide them with custom applications to fit their actual jobs, and you only need 200 of those people, which at an averaged burdened cost per position of $100k is an annual recurring savings of 30 million bucks. So if it costs you $5mm to develp, and $1mm per year to maintain, it's still a tidy bit you saved?
Legal and HR are the scourge of any operation!
When I worked for Ericsson, the procedure was to release patches and fixes through SUSE, where they licensed the Linux we worked on, mainly because Ericsson did not want any imagined liability (lawyers are experts in dreaming up problems) from releasing anything without the usual disclaimers and dis-owners.
SUSE would then upstream as appropriate - sometimes the SUSE guys would be working on a better solution that we would then adopt instead.
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Not everyone
I've worked at several places which have incoporated open source C libraries into products. They all contributed bug fixes back, for exactly the reason in the article - helping the library helps them.
In return the OS communities involved tended to be very responsive, and it was undoubtedly the best way to work.
That said, C being C, we did need to make various changes to the libraries (mainly to do with memory management issues) which needed to be reapplied to each new version. It would have been easy to fall into the trap of forking the sources.
Some projects *need* to be forked
I can think of one project that really needed a good forking. It took a couple of tries, but one fork seems to have taken off. Competition is often a force for good.
What am I missing?
"...29 per cent are unwilling to contribute back their code modifications to the relevant communities"
Which implies 71 per cent are willing to contribute back their code modifications to the relevant communities. Which is consistent with the perceptions of improved code quality (76 per cent), better reliability (71 per cent), and lower software maintenance costs (71 per cent).
I don't get it
Uh, I know this is basic Open Source stuff, but I don't get it.
Say you're Amazon or someone, and you've just developed some top notch code on top Linux and it gives you competitive advantage - your systems are now better, shinier and more productive than the competition - why would you want to give that back? So you have to maintain the code, but your product is now demonstrably better than the competition and it's that what's keeping you ahead of the game. Why would you give it all away?
I'm not trolling by the way, so please don't flame me, I just don't understand.
I agree
If there are licensing conditions then so be it, you have to publish the derived work or whatever the license requires, but there's no obligation to 'give back' beyond that ( except perhaps a moral one and that's highly debatable ).
Businesses choose software for a number of reasons, whether proprietary or open source, and why should they want to treat the later any different to the first? You take, you use it, and that's it.
If anyone wants to give back then go ahead, do so, and it seems a considerable majority are willing to do so. Does it make those who don't somehow wrong? Not really.
It's ultimately an issue of 'businesses exploit open source' and that should come as no surprise to anyone; that's what businesses do, leverage things to their advantage, open source or not. If it's there for the taking with no obligations which haven't been met then there's no real problem. Situation normal.
It's also 'businesses should be open source' - and that's just agenda setting and doesn't fit with the reality we have.
Also; isn't it said that the pleasure is in giving, not receiving?
Hence Paris - I'd give her one and not expect anything in return.
Re: I don't get it
That's a fair question. Open source works best when people collaborate on things of mutual interest; by that, I mean things that should just work. We all need text editors, compilers, hardware support, file systems, etc. Any of those things could trip up competitors, but there are better places to find a competitive advantage, and there is value in having future releases built on a solid foundation. The closer a technology gets to uniquely powering one's own niche, the less sense it makes to give it away.
Imagine a large company publicly committed to Linux
that doesn't contribute any source code back to the "community". Evil free rider?
Red Hat makes its profits from _somewhere_! Red Hat is the biggest contributor to Linux development, and many ostensible free riders are actually funding it.
There are many stories, don't be too quick to judge.
A few points..
I'd just like to make a few points (good article, BTW):
1) Google has tried to merge their changes into the kernel. But, the kernel peoples have rejected them. And, based on what I've seen, rightly so -- Google made up their own kernel lock type, made up their own new video system (instead of adding drivers to the existing video infrastructure), and so on. Google and the kernel guys are working on making these patches kind of mesh in better with the mainline kernel. At a casual glance this seems petty, but if the kernel guys weren't strict the kernel would be a real unholy mess, with much less code reuse than there is now (for instance, there used to be like 4 or 5 different wireless stacks, the IDE/SATA/etc. code is cleaner now, and so on.)
2) Some of these cos that won't contribute back, probably no big loss -- some small patch to customize a code base to work better for a specific use is just not that useful in the general code base. They shouldn't commit now that they won't contribute back, but *shrug*.
3) I won't be surprised if Canonical's contributions aren't underreported. Since Ubuntu is almost stock Debian, I just wonder if a lot of their contributions don't go into Debian first, and then upstream to gnome, the kernel guys, etc. Maybe the 1% *does* include that though, I really don't know.
Everyone give's back at some point
In my company, we post bugs and occasionally engage in development chats. If everyone does a little bit, the software improves rapidly.
I can't see us ever getting sufficiently low-level to start hacking on the projects we use, nor can I see us open-sourcing our own app code.
OSS is a bad economic model
It seems obvious that the problem with OSS is the economic model. Microsoft may produce awful software, but you have to admit that their economic model works quite well. Microsoft used to push the rules of the game to their limits, and maybe even stuck a few toes over the line, but they never received more than a wrist slap for it. You may think over $1 billion is a hefty fine, but it's chump change to the economic model Microsoft has used so well.
My suggestion is that OSS needs a better model, and I happen to have just the baby on my blog. It's basically an open accounting model for charitable projects. In this situation, you get the users to agree to pay for the features they want with an incentive to recruit more users. Each user would only pay something like $10 toward each feature, but the programmers wouldn't actually start work until the funding was secure. Other advantages: Donors could assess the track record of the programmers before supporting them, and the project budgets could include funded testing to prevent the kind of quality slump that is ruining Ubuntu.
Where's the icon for money? Anyway, I'll use the Web 2.0 icon on the theory that fixing the OSS financial model would be really helpful for buying more and better badger paws.
Not always Cheaper though
We are looking at replacing a core product on the Server sides with an OpenSource one.
There are a few around so we got a quote for the same level of support we currently enjoy from the Original but Proprietary supplier.
We almost fell off our chairs when the Exec from the FOSS Company gave us the number.
Zero up front cost. Tick.
Support cost THREE yes THREE times what we are currently paying. Fail.
No Support contract Discount for DEV or Test Servers. Fail.
We showed them the door pretty quick.
This is not a one off by the way. The other major FOSS Alternative in this area quotes broadly similar costs.
Add to this the major re-training of staff and the lack of anyone with these products on their CV (Apart from two which already work for us) means that we won't be stopping using the commercial product.
This was a very salutory lesson in the true costs of FOSS.
We are moving to RHEL though. The cost model for this does work in our favour.
So it is not all bad news.
I deliberately didn't mention the current product or supplier as we are in the middle of a support contract renewal process. You never know who reads this forum do we?
29% or 71%
This just sounds like abuse of statistics to me. Percentages in the 70s are held up as a good thing at the top of the article then '29% are unwilling to contribute code modifications' as a bad thing. Surely that means that 71% are willing to contribute which sounds good to me. Don't forget also that many companies have no developers would could contribute even if they wanted to.
I believe that the article is mostly right
I have used Linux for many years at our small company.
There are many ways to contribute to the commonwealth of Linux.
I make donations and help people use it... make a few new users a year.
Also whenever possible when I note something or think I know how to help someone on a forum - I respond.
I have been using sidux (very advanced Debian sid Distro for about two years, before that it was pure Debian for an additional 5 years.) This is out in the frontier of Linux land and I see many changes every day. I was at the Linux con 2009 and see that this is a very active community of company's and users. I think that in time everybody will see that it helps everyone's edge in the market to hang together... even if it takes a swift kick in the pants from time to time. The growth of Linux is astounding.
Join up now or get left in the dust... I believe it.
Much like the old "source" licensess for business apps
Back in the day when *everyone* either wrote their own system (normally to interface to their accounts package. Very few seemed to want to roll their own one of those) package suppliers would supply the source to allow company specific tweaks.
And individual companies would start modding it.
Sometimes *so* much they could could not take the updated version and run the mods against it (to gain their in house developed benefits).
However typically there was *no* mechanism for passing their changes/improvements back up the chain to the developers, which FOSS attempts to address.
While a company may not get *every* change it would like included back into the core the ones it does get shift the burden of support from one company to the whole community. Improving the way *every* one uses the package in the process.
It will not be a quick or easy process to change corporates into giving back something for nothing (as they will perceive it).
Only the resulting successes of those that do over those that don't will change minds.
the fact 71% are prepared to even *consider* sending changes up the tree is pretty encouraging.
Time will tell if they actually *do* it.
Unexpected? Not really
The big point with OSS is that you only *need* to release changes back if you distribute the resulting product. Even the ultra-strict RMS was savvy enough to realise that plenty of modified code either can't ever be released outside (perhaps it's not secure or robust enough, or contains trade secrets) or can't practicably be released (no budget for servers, perhaps). And the BSD license explicitly allows people to take the baseline code and distribute binaries from their in-house branch.
So not really surprising 29% take the OSS baseline and don't release their forked changes, then.
As an aside, I was amused recently to look up ESR's Wikipedia entry and scan an interview he did back in '98. Direct quote: "Netscape doing this creates a window of opportunity for us to get our message into corporate boardrooms. The flip side of that is that if Netscape tanks, no one is going to listen to us for another decade."
Which is precisely what happened. Aided and abetted by anti-competitive behaviour from MS, sure, but the simple fact is that Netscape forgot they were supposed to be making something that worked. The CompSci theorists took over and insisted on layers upon layers of virtual machines and indirection so that it could be massively customised by the OSS fraternity. As a result the new stuff was flakey as hell and dog-slow. Mozilla is still slower to do anything than IE, and is only useable by virtue of massively-increased processor speeds.
It's smart to not contribute back
Because what's most likely to happen is that you contribute feature X, and the filthy hippies that maintain the mainline will 'improve' it and add broken feature Y to the next version, which will conflict with your local X patch.
You want to get other peoples' fixes. Your own fixes, you don't want anyone fiddling with.
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It is with deep gratitude and relief that I received the news that Ubuntu "gives back" nearly nothing to the Community. Thank you Canonical! Wish you actually gave even less.
As to turning a profit - if Canonical treats enterprise customers with cash in hand as they do the vast Ubuntu herd, there will be no profits. And, with a 1% contribution to Gnome, it occurs to me that currently Gnome seemingly has adopted the Ubuntu view that users are too stupid to use indoor plumbing.
And, we give the obligatory salute to the now less than 1% out there that fly Linux on the desktop. Certainly wouldn't miss that bandwagon for anything.
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A valiant fourth-quarter comeback nearly closed the gap, but Oakdale High's varsity girls basketball team (4-8) slipped to a 41-36 defeat to talented Hilmar (11-2) in the third-place game of the Ripon Christian Tournament on Dec. 29. Oakdale beat Delhi in the tourney opener, but dropped their next two contests to Hughson and Hilmar. The Lady Mustangs were forced to finish tournament action without starting point guard Blanca Lara, who spent her New Year's holiday in Mexico. With Lara absent from the lineup, Oakdale struggled against Hilmar's full-court press that gave the Yellowjackets a 17-6 advantage in ...
A 63-48 victory over Pacheco on Dec. 21 put a nice polish on Oakdale High's varsity basketball preseason, but today's start to the 42nd Annual Oakdale Rotary Classic (Dec. 28) represents the last test drive before conference play.
Oakdale High's junior heavyweight on the varsity wrestling team, Zack Fallentine, exploded onto the prep wrestling scene with a 5-2 win over Buhach Colony's Michael Escobar to claim first place honors in the 36th Annual James Riddle Classic earlier this month at OHS.
Only six high school wrestling teams attended the 2011 John Zhender Duals at Elk Grove High on Dec. 17, but they were six very good teams and Oakdale was the cream of the crop. Oakdale went 5-0 across a full day of action against five of the best teams in the Sac-Joaquin Section and the North Coast Section.
A last-moment three-pointer gave Downey High's varsity girls basketball team brief hope for a late comeback, but Oakdale maintained the final possession for a 40-37 victory over the host Knights on Friday. The win improved Oakdale to 3-4 in non-league action with a solid 255-280 scoring differential between opponents. The games have been a nice way to open the year after blowout losses of 20 or more points in five of Oakdale's last games of the 2010-11 season.
Oakdale High seniors McKenzie Willet and Justina Keith signed their names to written commitments on Dec. 11 to attend the University of California, Merced on partial volleyball scholarships. Both will join the seven-year-old university for its second ever National Association of Intercollegiate Athletics season in 2012.
With five likely starters expected to miss the mat this season and another three football players still awaiting service on the active roster, Oakdale High's rag-tag collection of varsity wrestlers wasn't expected to continue the tradition of dominating their host tournament to open the season.
With fall players finally landing spots on the winter sports rosters, Oakdale High varsity basketball teams saw an influx in production and victories over the past week.
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Oakdale High wrestling fans will catch their first varsity glimpse of 10 new weights among 14 total classes of the prep wrestling season on Saturday at the 36th Annual James Riddle Classic.
It was a mixed week for the varsity tennis team, as the girls faced a pair of Valley Oak League (VOL) teams, suffering a tough 5-4 loss to Manteca on Tuesday, Sept. 23. They regrouped and earned a 7-2 victory over Weston Ranch on Thursday, Sept. 25.
The 2014 Nature Valley First Tee Open at Pebble Beach is this weekend, Sept. 26 through 28 and at least one local golfer will be on the links. Fans and spectators will be treated to viewing celebrities, pro golfers, most likely enjoy great weather and also get to see local golf phenom, Mabel Wong.
The Valley Oak League's first cross country meet of the season was hosted at Legion Park in Modesto on Wednesday, Sept. 17 and featured an outstanding effort from the Oakdale Mustangs.


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kissSyllabification: kiss
Pronunciation: /kis /
Definition of kiss in English:
verb[with object]
1Touch with the lips as a sign of love, sexual desire, reverence, or greeting: he kissed her on the lips [with object and complement]: she kissed the children goodnight [no object]: we started kissing
More example sentences
- They started to kiss, just lightly at first, and then with more passion.
- The desire to kiss him again is almost overwhelming - but she can't ignore her own beliefs.
- She closed her eyes once again as the man she loved hugged and kissed her one last time.
1.1 Billiards (Of a ball) lightly touch (another ball) in passing.
Example sentences
- On a straight line two balls can kiss a ball in the centre, one on the left and one on the right.
nounBack to top
1A touch with the lips in kissing.
Example sentences
- She then leaned back and they shared a deep, passionate kiss for a few seconds.
- He never gave us a kiss or showed any affection at all.
- As I lay on the couch that evening, I felt a touch on my forehead and a kiss on my cheek.
formal/humorous osculation
1.1 Billiards A slight touch of a ball against another ball.
Example sentences
- Davis looked poised to grab another frame from a seemingly lost position only for a double kiss to scupper his comeback in the fifth frame.
- Potting the white, or a double kiss, just like this.
1.2Used to express affection at the end of a letter (conventionally represented by the letter X): she sent lots of love and a whole line of kisses
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- One woman hands him a handwritten letter covered in kisses and hearts.
- Let's begin with why do Xs sometimes (esp. at the end of a letter) signify kisses?
- Highly emotive, Kahlo was passionate in her prose, sealing the letter illustrated with lipstick kisses.
2.1A small candy, especially one made of chocolate.
Example sentences
- To all of those who did reviews, I love you all and give everyone a big chocolate Hershey's kiss.
- Whether you've chosen to eat an apple or a single chocolate kiss, concentrate on its shape, color and aroma.
- I'm thinking chocolate kisses and coloured sprinkles won't do, as it's her 70th birthday.
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kiss and make up
- Become reconciled.Example sentences
- We have our little spats from time to time, but we always kiss and make up before the neighbors start to wonder.
- He was supposed to say sorry and she was supposed to forgive him, then they'd kiss and make up.
- It was time for the brothers to kiss and make up, and also for Owen to reconcile with Davey.
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kiss and tell
- Recount one's sexual exploits, especially to the media concerning a famous person: [as adjective]: this isn't a kiss-and-tell bookMore example sentences
- Anything goes, just bear in mind that the winning entries will be printed here, and a kiss-and-tell article won't even be considered.
- So far, he's not one to kiss and tell much about his encounters.
- She doesn't kiss and tell and all personal details are carefully monitored.
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kiss someone's ass
- vulgar slang Behave obsequiously toward someone.
- 4
kiss ass
- North American vulgar slang Behave in an obsequious or sycophantic way.
- 5
kiss something good-bye (or kiss good-bye to something)
- informal Accept the certain loss of something: I could kiss my career good-byeMore example sentences
- Leeds, for all their excellent progress in the Champions League, can realistically kiss the league championship goodbye after this defeat.
- Step out of line and you can kiss your career goodbye.
- Looks like the administration has decided on one strategy for jump-starting the economy - kissing the strong dollar goodbye.
- 6
kiss something to make it better
- informal Comfort a sick or injured person, especially a child, by kissing the sore or injured part of their body as a gesture of removing pain.Example sentences
- Rob and I thought we were going to grow old together and even now, when the children fall down, I can hear him offering to kiss them better.
- When they trip over their own feet, get tangled in a skipping rope or fall off their bike, their parents kiss it better and utter the well-worn phrase 'You'll live'.
- I'd kiss his graze better… and it always worked.
- 7
kiss of death
- An action or event that causes certain failure for an enterprise: it would be the kiss of death for the company if it could be proved that the food was unsafeMore example sentences
- This turn of events may be the kiss of death to such reform efforts as were underway.
- It is unclear exactly how to go about impressing the sisters, but a failure to do so is a frequently cited kiss of death.
- Correspondents were mainly concerned that anything described as rural seems afflicted with the kiss of death where government departments are concerned.
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kiss of life
- Mouth-to-mouth resuscitation.Example sentences
- He was given the kiss of life and an ambulance was called.
- After listening to her chest, he began to give her the kiss of life and attempted CPR using two of his fingers.
- Mr Young, a trained first aider, felt a faint pulse and gave his wife the kiss of life after calling for an ambulance.
- 8.1An action or event that revives a failing enterprise: good ratings gave the program the kiss of lifeMore example sentences
- Three years ago, they bought a battered complex of medieval, Tudor, Jacobean and Georgian buildings, and gave it the kiss of life.
- Baxter's success has already given the sleepy skiing resort the kiss of life and has ignited plans for a proposed Aviemore centre.
- 'The garden was waiting 50 years to be given the kiss of life,' garden project director, Ian August says.
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- A ceremonial kiss given or exchanged as a sign of unity, especially during the Christian Eucharist.Example sentences
- The Pope then beckoned and kissed them all, before then inviting the congregation to exchange the kiss of peace with their neighbours.
- In the choir, he received the monks one by one and gave each the kiss of peace.
- If judges and similar high officials have to stay apart, neither should the ordained join the people, either when preaching to them or to exchange the kiss of peace.
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kiss the rod
- Accept punishment submissively.Example sentences
- Better on this occasion to kiss the rod than try to dodge the issue.
- If you have - go - retire into silent obscurity, and kiss the rod that scourges you.
- I have reason to speak much of His goodness, and to kiss the rod, for it was sweetened with abundant mercies.
Phrasal verbs
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kiss someone/something off
- North American informal Dismiss someone rudely; end a relationship abruptly.
- 2
kiss up to
- North American informal Behave sycophantically or obsequiously toward (someone) in order to obtain something.
- 1
kissable adjective
- Example sentences
- And besides, you've got an incredibly kissable mouth.
- Apply lip balm daily to keep your lips in kissable condition.
- Sitting beside Mark her head resting on his shoulder, smiling and chatting with his sister she looked absolutely adorable and so very kissable.
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