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I've returned to the world of typesetting after a long absence, and have been reading what seem to be considered the standard current works on typography (Bringhurst, "Thinking With Type", "Stop Stealing Sheep", etc.) and have been reading some recent books on book design, and I am struck by how many accounts of the transition to digital typography assume that it began with the Macintosh and PageMaker.
Bell Labs was using troff to drive a C/A/T phototypesetter in the early 1970s (to prepare patent applications; it was the excuse that they used to fund the development of the Unix operating system). When I was a summer employee at the department of Computational Science at the University of Saskatchewan in 1982, we were using troff to typeset a textbook ("An Introduction to Data Structures with Applications" by Tremblay and Sorenson). troff, in those days, had one font (a Times Roman-ish sort of thing) with italic and bold versions, in multiple sizes. But it was certainly better than using a typewriter, or even a daisy-wheel printer, and many computer science theses, as well as many computer science texts, were made using it. It appears to have been in use for book production into the early 1990s.
Donald Knuth's TeX emerged in the form we currently know in 1982 (although there have been some revisions since then). Leslie Lamport's LaTeX document processing system, built on top of TeX, appeared a few years later. LaTeX has been used to produce many books and papers in computer science, mathematics, physics, and chemistry. TeX and LaTeX are still under active development, and there are versions that do microtypography (pdfTeX) and that support Unicode and OpenType fonts (XeTeX). As far as I know, nothing else comes close to TeX for setting mathematics. All kinds of good work can be done with it (see http://www.tug.org/texshowcase).
There were other systems, too: Brian Reid's Scribe; one called SMUT, which Douglas Hofstadter used to typeset "Godel, Escher, Bach: An Eternal Golden Braid"; ATEX, used by newspapers; and doubtless others that I haven't heard about.
So what puzzles me is why these systems, so important in scientific work (particularly troff and TeX), don't get any mention in most accounts of typographic history. Is it a cultural thing? Are people outside of the scientific and mathematical communities simply unaware of them? Is it an issue of snobbery? Is mark-up based software, originated by a computer scientist and not a typographic insider, looked down upon or considered a joke?
I'm not trying to use this post to say that troff or TeX are better or worse than InDesign or Quark or whatever. I just wonder why they always seem to be overlooked.
This isn't just a TeX thing, it's an open source thing. I tried using TeX, and like a lot of F/OSS software, it just wasn't worth the bother. Indesign is just so much easier to use for everything I need to do that it more than justifies the cost of the software. No screwing around with dependencies, X, or compiling, I just install it and it works. For me it always comes back to that old saying "Free software is only free if you time is worth nothing." My time is worth enough to keep me far, far away from TeX.
I agree that it's odd that the text-markup systems haven't been more widely discussed. Some of it may be timing: in their heyday of only a decade or so between the phototypesetting era and the DTP era, there wasn't much time for markup technology to get much of a foothold. And once the Mac/PageMaker combo came along, the markup systems could never be more than a tiny niche market.
Markup systems imply a certain amount of programming, or at least an understanding of text processing. That's pretty far away from most designers' experience, and perhaps requires a lot more explanation than the history writers want to spend on what seems to be a dead market. (Although ironically, the entire web design field is based on much of the same markup languages.)
In fact, I think you'll find that very little information about phototypesetting is mentioned in the histories, either. It's usually glossed over in generic terms, as a stopgap between letterpress and digital.
I did dig up my copy of Richard Rubinstein's Digital Typography, published in 1988, and found that he describes details and provides examples of several markup systems, including TeX, troff (or other RUNOFF descendents), as well as PostScript and other page description languages.
As an old-time user of troff-like systems (I once wrote a troff clone for a Royal laser printer, circa 1984), and a sometime-user of TeX systems, I'd have to count most of markup technology as a good pioneering try, but in the end either too specific or too technical to make much of a difference in typographic history. As you mention, troff, TeX, and to some extent Scribe has been used in the CS community for typesetting of papers and books. However, I believe these markup systems have been used primarily for more functional reasons, rather than reasons of typographic quality, including:
These reasons are quite valid in their context. But if you look at TeX without math formatting, you find an obscure system with odd formatting defaults that only does decent typography with a lot of work. Troff is even more basic, with little to no typographic control, as you mentioned. Scribe had interesting potential, but was sold off and apparently abandoned long before its time in the limelight. (Brian Reid once worked for my father, I think just before Brian wrote Scribe.)
Perhaps later histories will revise the view that all digital typography started with the Mac. But I'm not certain that the message will be that the earlier digital typography had been so unfairly pushed under the mat.
I love threads like this one. I learn so much! But yeah, there is a rather Mac-centric thrust to the design world. TeX is good at what it does, but it is not exactly user-friendly in the way that a Mac is.
Markup systems imply a certain amount of programming, or at least an understanding of text processing. That's pretty far away from most designers' experience…
I don't think that markup systems or programming are too bad: I know plenty of designers who deal with XHTML, CSS, and Javascript/Action script on a regular basis. But most of them don't want to deal with anything as obtuse as TeX, as it's just a pain in the butt, designed with mathematicians and CS geeks in mind.
I'm not one to argue that TeX is good for all typesetting purposes or to argue that it doesn't have a steep learning curve, and all those probably are reasons for its relative obscurity outside of technical fields. However, I hate to let a thread like this go by without at least mentioning that it's gotten much easier to install TeX and friends in Windows and Mac in recent years. No compiling or worrying about dependencies. Nice GUI editors that help you with all the commands you may not remember. I'd hate for anyone who hasn't tried TeX to be unduly frightened of the experience.
The most important thing I had when learning TeX was an expert to whom I could ask questions. Often things were easy once I was pointed in the correct direction.
No use complaining Jim, you should remedy the situation and state your case in the various media which are unaware of the improtance of your genre. A magazine article for eye or Print, a book for Hyphen, a talk at ATypI. Do you have a collection of exemplary scientific/technical typography? Is there a TeX awards competiton?
Interesting. Just last week (or maybe two back) I started using TeX again after 10 or 15 years away from it. I am doing online science courses, and it was taking forever to make the mathematical equations in Illustrator. I installed TeX, and suddenly I can produce them in 1/4 the time.
But I don't want to ever, ever do a non-math book with TeX again.
I'm not a designer as such, but rather an author who also designs. So, from a strictly design point of view, I can see how Tex may not be ideal. But from an author's point of view, Tex is more useful than anything else that I've used for document creation. A large chunk of that usability derives from the fact that I can create tex files which can be typeset, converted to online formats, and manipulated in many other ways. One of the problems I had with my early books (e.g. rosslaird.info/grain/ ) was that once the design was completed using InDesign, the text was pretty much set into that format, and it was quite difficult to extract material in such a way that the extraction (e.g. for web excerpts) was seamless and standards compliant. Futzing around between InDesign and standards-compliant html (not to mention css) has not, in my experience, been very fun. But Tex obviates all that. I simply create my documents in plain text, using ReStructured Text or something similar, then run the text through LaTeX and whatever other automated process I want, so that at the end I have Tex, html (with css), or whatever. From a document management point of view this is perfect: transportable, centralized, simple.
I have not used XeTex, but I do use all of my OpenType fonts with Tex. And as far as typesetting goes, the Tex algorithm is/was (I think) the basis for the algorithms used in current software such as InDesign. I am not an expert in this area, but I have never heard anyone say that Tex typography is inferior to any other system. Usually what I hear is that it is superior (but that may just be geek-speak). Sure, Tex requires knowledge of the markup; but actually not too much, and these days most people who are involved with the production of fine documents (for the web or elsewhere) are familiar with markup.
I suppose much of this boils down to familiarity, workflow, and interface. I've used pretty much everything available since 1986, and my preference, overall, is for Tex. But as I said, design is only one part of what I do, so for those whose main gig is design, Tex may not be ideal. (I'm thinking here of fixed documents that will not be required to have online versions, for example.) But for me, I appreciate Tex's way of preserving the plain text and using it with great flexibility. And the output looks great too.
I've done three non-mathematical books with TeX. Since the manuscripts were in plain ASCII, it was easy ... but then I'm a computer geek. I had some experience with a Mergenthaler phototypesetting system years ago & TeX makes sense for me.
I think that the main problem with TeX, and its variants, is that it has become somewhat trapped in a vicious circle. It is widely perceived as only being for suitable for writing scientific/mathematical papers with a result that only scientists and mathematicians tend to use it. This also means that most of the books and websites written about it tend to come from that angle which can put people off who are from the arts side of things. This is quite unfortunate, as TeX does produce very good looking documents and, once one has got to grips with it, it is relatively easy to use. Indeed, I don't use anything else for my day-to-day work and hate it when I am forced to do something on Microsoft Word or Open Office.
I think that where the TeX and the Document Preparation Systems are particularly strong is not as a replacement for DTP software but as a replacement for a word-processor. Therefore their target market is unlikely to be designers for whom DTP software offers WYSIWYG control.
As I see it, the great advantage of TeX is that one can just type the document, without worrying at all about formatting, and then have TeX automatically convert that into something that could quite acceptably be published. Whilst DTP software gives the designer finer control, I certainly wouldn't like using InDesign every time I write a letter.
A good example of where I think TeX is particularly useful if if one works in a field where documents with numbered paragraphs are the norm. Getting a word processor to do this accurately is a complete pain, unless one has preprepared the document and I think the same applies to most DTP (though I'm not an InDesign expert). With TeX, it is simply a case of putting two lines of code at the top of the document. Then you can forget about it, knowing that no matter how much you mess around with and revise the document, the numbers will always be right!
There are few difficulties (some historic) that I think are unfortunate:
1) Sticking my neck on the line a bit, I think that plain TeX is now much more intuitive for most people to use than LaTeX, despite the common perception of the opposite. LaTeX very much forces the user into using the LaTeX "house style", which although results in good looking documents, requires quite a lot of hackery to change. Plain TeX, gives the user more of a blank sheet from which to work. Since the advent of Word Processors and the like this much less of a problem than it was in the early 80s: most people are now quite comfortable with deciding what their section headings and the like should look like and the LaTeX defaults can somewhat get in the way.
2) Computer Modern is, ermm..., interesting as a default typeface choice!
3) The learning curve is still near vertical...For example, the two lines of code I was talking about above are:
\newcount\parnumber \parnumber =0
\everypar{\advance\parnumber by1 \the\parnumber. }
I think XeTeX, ConTeXt and LyX are, however, helping alleviate these. I especially think that if LyX could produce "purer" TeX and then strapped onto XeTeX (which has excellent OpenType support and avoids all of the old font problems associated with TeX), then its popularity would increase a lot.
I'm curious to know where "DTP software gives the designer finer control." I don't use DTP software, at least not for a few years, and I imagine it has come a long way. Tex seems to be able to do all sorts of crazy stuff that I never use -- like, for example, being able to flow text into all kinds of mathematically-defined shapes. In Peter Wilson's manual for the memoir class there's a poem that has been formatted as a swirl on the page, and that's pretty cool. But I suppose what I'm asking is: does DTP software offer something typographical that Tex can't do? Or do you mean that DTP software offers easier ways of doing certain typographical functions -- which I could easily understand. Just curious.
Oh, and about Computer Modern: Yup, a strange choice. You'd think that Knuth, who worked with Zapf, would have chosen Palatino at least. I'm sure glad that I have access to all of my OpenType fonts in Latex, thanks to John Owens: http://www.ece.ucdavis.edu/~jowens/code/otfinst/
Computer Modern was a bit of a no brainer, as "Modern" had been the main type used for scientific and academic documents for 150 years.
All the sorts are well established.
It is actually very "disambiguous" for things like math, as its complex forms enable great distinction between all kinds of glyphs. For instance, the pot-hook serifs on the italic prevent entanglement of superior and inferior letters with numbers in complex formulae--an advantage that becomes apparent when comparing with the ClearType math font.
Sorry, I wasn't being very clear. What I should have said is that DTP software tends to make it easier for designers to exploit a fine degree of control because the setting is conducted on a "trial and error" basis. The most notable example would be with images. In any WYSIWYG software, one can usually just drag the image around the page until its position looks right, even if that is 2.45387cm from the margin. With TeX, one has to specify the image's location and then compile the file to check, which is considerably more time consuming. Another example would be font sizes. With most DTP software, to try all 20 font sizes between 8pt and 10pt in 0.1pt increments is simply a case of pressing a button 20 times. In TeX, one would have to edit the tex file, save, compile and open the PDF 20 times. Although this can be done quite quickly with a good text editor, it still is a more lengthy process. I think with TeX one has to have a clear idea in one's mind as to how the final document will look, as experimentation is a bit of a pain to carry out.
This is not necessary a problem, indeed pre-DTP, publishing was more like working with TeX in that the designer would have to specify the design and have proofs printed without being able to play with a faithful resolution on a screen. However, I don't think I'd like to set any full-colour magazines in TeX!
BTW, have a look at XeTeX...it has two advantages over plain TeX in that it will happily operate in UTF-8 and will use any font installed on your system (or even a font-file not installed if you specify the path) without the need for any conversion.
That's a fair point and I was being a bit flippant. However, I do think that the CM Serif is not Knuth's best work. For instance, his CM Sans-serif is considerably better and, of course, he collaborated extensively with Zapf, both of which suggest that a better default face would have been possible.
Of the typefaces now available, Palatino is probably the most popular for people not using CM but there are also TeX versions of Bondoni and Didot which I think would be better Modern choices as defaults.
Thanks for the clarification. That's what I thought you meant. Though, I find more and more that with tools such as auctex/emacs I can get two windows side by side -- one with the tex file and one with the pdf -- and have instant updating from one to the other. That's pretty cool -- but yes, when I design a poster, I don't use Tex.
I am thinking of switching to xetex. Many people seem to be doing so, and although it's very early in development, it seems to be getting lots of attention.
Everyone, thanks for the thoughtful comments.
John Labovitz: Thanks for the pointer to Rubinstein's book; I will have to try to find a copy. Those are some good points you make.
Nick Shinn: Didn't intend to sound like I was complaining; I'm more curious to find out why markup-based systems seem to have remained unknown outside their little ghetto. There have been some good histories of TeX written by people who have more insiders' knowledge than I do (Nelson Beebe's "The Design of TeX and METAFONT: A retrospective" is useful but is more from a computer science point of view than a typographical one).
Ross Laird: Good point about being able to process the text in other ways.
Jacob H: Very true about the numbered paragraphs. I have had the unpleasant experience at work recently of having to revise a 700 page technical document (with 8 levels of section numbering (yuck!)) in Microsoft Word. It is the sort of job that a system like TeX/LaTeX is made for (except that it would have to be extended to handle 4 more levels of section numbering).
And as for Computer Modern -- the best thing I can say about it is that a book set in CM looks a lot better than one that was written on a typewriter, which was not uncommon in the early 1980s (especially computer science texts from the UK). I use XeTeX and it works quite nicely with Adobe Garamond Premier Pro.
A note to James Puckett regarding free and open-source software: Typophile.com appears to be hosted on the Linux operating system, running the Apache web server, which are open source. http://toolbar.netcraft.com/site_report?url=http://www.typophile.com But your point about what your time is worth is well taken. TeX vs desktop publishing is a bit like ham radio vs cell phones -- you have to be something of an enthusiast to make it do everything it's capable of.
There are cases where TeX and friends are used as "back ends" for formatting output produced by other software. DocBook markup can be handled that way. The TeX showcase has an example of a catalog generated directly from a database and formatted using TeX; that would be difficult to do with a WYSIWYG DTP system, I would think.
I've had good results using TeXShop on the Mac, using LaTeX markup and XeTeX so that I can use the fonts normally installed on my computer. It is nearly WYSIWYG; the generated PDF is displayed in a window right beside the markup editor window, and you can run TeX on it by pushing a single key.
troff seems to have run its course. The last book I saw that was set with troff was in 1995 or so. Apparently there is now a version of troff that will use OpenType fonts, but I haven't tried it.
So it would seem that the answer to my original question is that markup based systems like TeX and troff are not mentioned in mainstream histories of typography for cultural reasons. There is not much awareness of them outside the world of mathematics and science; they wouldn't come to the attention of someone who didn't have to set complex mathematics. This isn't surprising given that, in their heyday, using them required a computer that cost a 5 or 6 figure sum and had to be kept in an air-conditioned room.
Maybe there should be another thread: "TeX & troff -- The Ham Radio of Typesetting?"
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Tuesday, November 25, 2014
Whatever Happened To...Ken Wahl?
I was sludging my way through writing a blog post about 1980s TV stars who fell from grace, partly inspired by the Bill Cosby sex scandal, until I got to Ken Wahl.
Reading about Wahl's story, I realized he didn't deserve to be lumped into the same category as those actors that let drugs and other demons take over their lives and eventually drive them to their deaths. Wahl's rags-to-riches-back-to-rags story is mainly due to plain old bad luck, and it's even more troubling considering he's a stand up guy who would do anything to help animals.
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Wednesday, October 29, 2014
Why I'm Glad the Honey Boo Boo Show Went Kaput
Kramer called it years ago on Seinfeld...
KRAMER: ...And you're the manager of the circus.
JERRY: A circus?
KRAMER: Come on, this is a great idea. Look at the characters. You've got all these freaks on the show. A woman with a moustache? I mean, who wouldn't tune in to see a women with a moustache? You've got the tallest man in the world; a guy who's just a head.
JERRY: I don't think so.
KRAMER: Look Jerry, the show isn't about the circus, it's about watching freaks.
JERRY: I don't think the network will go for it.
KRAMER: Why not?
JERRY: Look, I'm not pitching a show about freaks.
KRAMER: Oh come on Jerry, you're wrong. People they want to watch freaks. This is a "can't miss."
To quote REO Speedwagon, I just can't fight this feeling anymore; I'm feeling massive schadenfreude these days knowing that the inappropriately-named network The Learning Channel finally pulled the plug on the massive gravy train wreck called Here Comes Honey Boo Boo (and there goes Honey Boo Boo...buh bye!) after evidence surfaced that the mother was cavorting with a child sex offender.
I never saw a single episode of the show, but the biggest problem I had with it is that for a while you couldn't get through a typical day without seeing that obnoxious brat and Mama Jabba the Hutt receive unjustifiable media publicity somewhere. Those of us who weren't fans of the show couldn't avoid it. For reasons unknown even Steve Harvey, a man usually known for doling out common sense, interviewed the family on his daytime talk show--where they farted and brought down everyone's brain cell count. Viewers took to his Facebook page in droves to question and denounce his decision...and to be honest, my own interest in his show dwindled after he stooped to that low.
I also can't help but feel glee that The Learning Channel has some massive egg on its face to clean up thanks to this mess. The network that has built an empire on pap such as Jon & Kate Plus 8, 19 Kids and Counting, and My Strange Addiction finally learned a harsh lesson: when you're dealing with real people and reality TV, you're taking a huge gamble that anything they do in "real life" will hurt your own reputation. Like when Duck Dynasty "star" Phil Robertson made anti-gay comments to GQ Magazine and A&E, which airs the show, suspended him (a "punishment" that ended far too quickly.)
It's just bizarre to me how different television has changed in a span of 10-15 years. There was a period shortly after Survivor premiered that I really thought reality TV had run its course. Instead, it's gotten far worse. At least shows like The Amazing Race is a competition. Now we have shows about vapid women who are famous because they are famous, and women who didn't know they were pregnant until they went into labor.
I grew up on series like Alice, One Day At a Time, Happy Days, Laverne & Shirley, and ALF. Maybe they were't exactly intellectually stimulating, but at least they made me laugh and they didn't show people doing asinine things that made me want to throw up. But what I miss more are the family dramas--shows like Judging Amy. They've been replaced by the CSI franchise (do we REALLY need another autopsy show set in yet another city?)
The cancellation of Honey Boo Boo is a good thing, and not just for the most obvious reasons. I'm hoping that it starts a trend away from reality TV and back towards programming that requires creativity and has something viable to offer viewers. These reality TV buffoons need to keep up their off-screen bad behavior, because I'd like to see every single one of these shows canned (but please not Masterchef and Masterchef Junior; as much as I dislike reality TV at least I learn something from these shows about cooking techniques and food.)
Unfortunately, as one of my friends recently commented on Facebook, Honey Boo Boo will probably be replaced on TLC by another show that's just as awful. These shows are cheap to conceive and produce; there's no writing, costumes, or sets really required. And for reasons I'll never be able to understand, they manage to attract an audience. (At this point I'd love to toss in the old saying "only in America" except the Brits apparently have an awful show called Sex Box which is going to make its way across the pond here soon.) I'd love to see variety shows make a comeback, but I know that it will never happen. For starters, we just don't have the variety of talent that had mass appeal in the '60s and '70s, and they just cost too much. Everything always comes back to the mighty dollar.
In the meantime, at least I have PBS and TV Land.
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Saturday, October 25, 2014
A Song's Story #5: Superstar (Groupie)
I recently contributed to REBEAT Magazine's staff picks for guilty pleasure tunes, and while I went with the giddy, upbeat "My Boy Lollipop" by Millie Small, I was sorely tempted to list "Superstar" by the Carpenters. There's something about the feeling of angst and unrequited love in their 1971 hit that is oddly satisfying during the right mood, but it's also just a beautiful melody.
This isn't the first time I've covered a Carpenters hit in the Song's Story series; I previously wrote before about the history of "Close To You" which originally was covered by other singers before the brother and sister Carpenter team turned it into pure gold in 1971. They replicated that success with their cover of "Superstar" the same year. Like "Close To You," "Superstar" was attempted by several artists before it found the right fit.
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something to note | Reviewer: Anonymous------ About the song The Approaching Curve performed by Rise Against
I believe the alluded to wreck is an accident because the first verse refers to things like icy conditions,melting snow and salt stains. She was so distracted from the breakup that she didn't notice the approaching curve until it was too late
Beautiful! | Reviewer: A Mom------ About the song Swing Life Away performed by Rise Against
My teenaged son is always wanting me to listen to "his" music, which I call screamo. He promised me I would like this song and I listened grudgingly. Wow! What a beautiful song! I actually find it somewhat haunting, because life gets so complicated, and I sometimes yearn for simpler times when I could just swing life away. I think playing it acoustically gives it more power, as it adds to the simplicity of the lyrics to a layered song.
My friend | Reviewer: Pretender------ About the song The Good Left Undone performed by Rise Against
As it usually happens, the meaning I see in the song reflects my own situation. My friend and I had this increidible friendship, we were both in bad situations in our lives and kind of saved each other. We started dating, because we started feeling more than a friendship but I ended it, because it stopped feeling like it was "supposed to".
We passed the point of no return and couldn't go back to be friends anymore..
I miss him so badly, I love him, but not in the way he'd want me to. I hear this and I feel like his singing to me to shout and tell him to come back.. I wish I could
Injection.. | Reviewer: Dyna------ About the song Injection performed by Rise Against
For my personally I think the song is about nothing else than love. He/she is so caught up in a relationship that the can't live without that person "give me the drug" - the love that the other person gives him or her
"Keep me alive" - they feel they can't live without that person, its what keeps them alive
"Give me what's left of my life" - the let go of a lot things when they found this person like friends and family
"Pull this plug, let me breath" - they need to breake up because he/she needs space
"On my own I'm finally free" - they feel they can get intouched with their family and friends again
"Don't let me go" - they can't live without the person, no matter how hard they try they find themself going back to the person again and again because they simply can't let go of the person although he/she maybe already let go - "if you never meant to leave then you only had to stay"
impressions | Reviewer: kyle------ About the song Swing Life Away performed by Rise Against
iv listened to rise against for nearly 3 years now, no matter how many times i hear this song it always fills me with emotion. my favorite line is "if love is a labor i'll slave till the end" these are the only words i can ever consider for a tattoo. to me these are words i can live by, taking into account not only my love for my family, friends and my girlfriend. and to a greater extent everyone i meet, as people have preached love thy neighbor. at times i think rise against has made more of an impression on me than my catholic schooling upbringing.
Marxism? | Reviewer: Anonymous------ About the song Disparity By Design performed by Rise Against
This song talks of the Marxist perspective or the ruling class system and capitalism. The ruling upper class own the means of production and hire the proletariat (or prols from George Orwell's 1984)to work for them.
The 'prols' are exploited and lied to by the Ruling Class as they work for minimum with the promise if they work hard they can get higher into the social ranks "they keep us convinced, to lift up our chins, these playing fields are level, we all have a chance".
The Ruling Class make us believe that buying into capitalism will make us move up the social ladder, though it won't as only collectively can the 'prols' make change though the work is privatized making it hard to create this collective conscience to over throw the capitalists and become more equal."like a single domino, that falls while the rest stay vertical, we're fed these empty fairy tales, and i'm through believing"
I personally belive it's a song about trying to over throw this Ruling Class but not being able to as a society we don't have the means to.
Awesome song + sidenote | Reviewer: TraceurPunk------ About the song Reception Fades performed by Rise Against
I figure it probably is about a questionably dead relationship, hence "Are we holding on, to the thread/ Of something already dead?" As well as the rest of the chorus and some other lines. Yet I can't help but feel as though there's another message to it, as though the afore mentioned questionably dead relationship isn't the only thing going on there.
Emo is literally a shortened version of Emotional. If we want to be literal then we could say that all music is emotional, cause it all creates or causes emotions. Even if we're not being literal, Malte wasn't necessarily being 'emo', he was just voicing his and probably others' reasons for loving Rise Against.
Keep on keepin' on~
ready to fall | Reviewer: lame.a------ About the song Ready To Fall performed by Rise Against
hey guys!
i know this songs means a lot to the most of us. we all have a different approach towards it and we all gave it a meaning.
truth be told, tim himself said that this song was about being at the top and having nowhere to go, except down.
the music video is just an interpretation by the director. it doesnt' really relate to the song, but it does show the message Rise Against stands for.
Just watch the generation lost DVD.
A friend of mine | Reviewer: Gogol------ About the song Swing Life Away performed by Rise Against
A friend of mine posts music videos to kinda communicate with me and about our friendship. He's a 20 years old 13-year-old-kid who won't grow up. How to deal with these kinds of friend? I just wanna be his friend, he's one of the most normal and cool and smartest friend i had, but he takes wrong inspirations from me and other places. I slit and I know he saw my scars. I'm trying to stop while dealing with bipolar. While he then kept melodramatizing everything and post new music videos.
Make it end | Reviewer: Anonymous------ About the song Make It Stop (September's Children) performed by Rise Against
I cried when i heard this song because it brought back memories. I've had two of my closest friends die die at seventeen and sixteen for being gay and bisexual. One committed suicide and the other's father beat him to death. I'm in highschool and im bisexual. My mom doesnt accept me. I've cut and scraped my wrists since fifth grade and i just want all the bullying and criticism to end. Its not up to others to judge you. Just be who you were born to be. We all have to keep our eyes open and help eachother to make it stop.
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C&C3 Generals Evolution Model PackApr 12, 2013 Models Pack 19 comments
Since the project was canceled/Moved to RedAlert3 engine we dicided to release some of our work for public use. These models are intended to use in C&C3...
Q: When it's gonna be released?
A: As soon as i finish it, i don't really want to rush with my projects, because great things take time, but i assure you - it won't take too long.
Q: Is there will be new units/buildings/abilities/generals powers?
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Q: What the heck is RC1/2/3?
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Q: How are you gonna add abilities/upgrades/special powers to mod?
A: This will be simplified, i will use Veteran/Heroic states for GLA Units instead Junk collecting, some upgrades will be bundeled into protocol upgrades, you get the idea.
Currently i am working alone, but with a great help of these guys :
Jafhar/GoGoYubari - He's responsible for bright and great ideas, additional models, great advices, help with textures, there's really too much to mention so let's just say that he's a great person to be befriended with, period.
Sgor00 - Proud Mapper of GenEvo mod, he's artist of GUI and Cameo textures, Web designer, great adviser and great friend. Check out his personal site! ( RU Only ).
TimeDefender - When i need constructive criticism - i ask him, he's my RL friend, he's helped me with software that EA didn't care to include ( Particle Frames/Lifetime calc, C&C Geometry params converter, etc. He's also responsibe for tons of ideas.
Dcesarec - Proud member of Contra Mod team, great modeler, just a nice person. He is responsible for RC2 Infantry models, give him a huge thank you, because without him i was not able to bring infantry to RC2.
Zeke, and a whole NLS team - Thank you for contributing me your old unused assets, you made a GIANT contribution to RC2, now players of GenEvo will be pleases with your top notch models, thank you.
St4lk3r - Thank you for Marauder and Mammoth model, i am proud to use these.
Existor - Thank you for new main Generals Evolution logo, pretty much everything you draw is masterpiece. Keep it up lad.
Currently None for now, thank you for actually contacting me! ( no sarcasm )
Bibber - The savior of C&C Modding community, authour of numerous tools and expansions, which made C&C3;/RA3 modding simplier, i cannon imagine my mod without his work, kudos to you, mate.
Megumi/Asuka - Working with Bibber and other chaps she's responible for many other contributions to C&C3;/RA3 modding.
All of you - And of course all of you, all who follow my mod and making feedback. Major thing that keeps mod alive is feedback, i must know that i am doing the right thing. You always cheer me up.
6 comments by ᎶʋƝʂℋɨƤ_ℳƘ_ƖƖ on Dec 17th, 2013
Hey there mates, once again, Gunship here, i'd really like to thank all of you for voting for mod in first MOTY stage. Thanks to all of you i've managed into top 100 of ModDB mods. This is a really a big deal to me, since this is a kind of feedback i want to see to continue my work, it gives me a huge moral boost. Thank you once again.
So, you might ask, what's new? Well, not really much, since latest update i am hardly working on porting assets, fixing them, mapping. In total i have 580 mb of new mapping related content, it's like 500~ new assets, that's a huge number i might admit. Me with cooperation of Sgor00 gonna bring you high quality mapping any time soon.
Here's some WiP shots of our work
Meanwhile, i'd really like to introduce you some of my favorite moddb projects, some of them in a need of your vote too!
The first one is called : The Rogue Republic
Rogue Republic is a RTS game, their main aim is to bring to you C&C like gameplay, cutscenes and immersive storyline. Their main featues are :
Faction Editor - You'll be able to create your own army via it.
Wide unit variety - over 100 units available.
Naval warfare - destroyers, subs, aircraft carriers and more.
And many, many more to come!
Personally i'd like to see more in-game screenshots, their modelling, texturing, scripting work is amazingly good. You can check ( and optionally vote for IOTY ) them HERE
The second project is from my good old friends. I am talking about DUNE20XX
Dune fans out there might remember cancelled Dune : Evolution game ( which started as C&C3 mod long time ago ), it was a really good project and some team members can't just give up, so couple of them unite to revive and reuse Dune : Evolution content ( also make entirely new content ) and bundle it as a mod for Command and Conquer 3 : Tiberium Wars game.
This mod is all about Mixing of visual styles from canceled mod Dune:Evolution and some ideas from Emperor: battle for dune.
There will be 4 sides to choose from: House Atreides, House Harkonnen, House Ordos and Emperor!
Their main feature is high quality content, such as Texturing and Modeling work. They also have Sgor00 as a team member, so expect high quality mapping content too!
Just go and check their stuff and see for yourself!
And last, but not least is a Tiberium mod for C&C : Red Alert 3 game!
The main goal of the mod is to bring best assets from both C&C3 and C&C4 into one mod for Red Alert 3. Main features are :
Total Red Alert 3 conversion-transformation RA3 to CC3 as close as it is possible,
Imporved egnine (RNA renderer),
Remake of Tiberium Wars/ C&C4 maps,
Naval war and water base building,
More stable LAN and ONLINE.
Just see for yourself! :
You can check more about this mod HERE
Thank you all for you attention.
Well, that's all FOR NOW, Hope to see your feedback. Don't forget to vote!
Gunship Mark II, Signing Out.
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is this mod still alive?
it's been kinda nearly 2 years without any news lol
or did i miss something / some news?
Why would you want Realistic? isn't there enough games out there that trying to do that crap already? Aren't you people getting tired of seeing the same things again and again in majority of Modern era setting for the past 7 years???????
it's based on another cnc games, and the original games has unit exactly like this
OK, couple problems: 1 It isn't instelled there as I don't have the optical disk version (I did add it to the place your mod in the coresponding folder for the origen version), 2 There is no Mods folder (I made one myself but it didn't work) and 3 If it should work how can I find out that it works?
"It isn't instelled"
Wait what? You said you have steam version, go download it and launch it once, all folders will be created after this. Then go ahead and place mod in mods folder ( or create one if there's none ), then launch the game with -ui param and go to Game Browser -> Mods, you'll see mod there.
I can't tell you anything about origin version, i only know that it doesn't like mods.
I must have done something wrong, I instelled the steam version, ran it once but there were still no other folders in the folder Red Alert 3 folder but the replays folder, so I made a mods folder with the mod inside and just to be sure I did the same in the folder: \C:\Prog Files(x86)\Steam\SteamApps\common\C&C RA3. But when I launch the game it starts the vanilla version. Also I can't find the -ui param thing you are talking about.
Is you game patched in the options menu. Needs to say version 1.12 in options menu. Mod support added to RA3 after version 1.10 I think. If not patched, um download it. Does the steam version of the game auto patch?
Yes it does.
Right click on the game in steam ->Properties->Set Launch Options-> Add -ui there and save. then launch the game and repeat what i said before.
Add me on steam if you are still having a trouble.
well, RA3 starts with a new screen now, but when I go to game browser -> mods there are no mods. If you want me to add you to my friends I'm going to need a name, or you can add me (DanPaladin12) I'm the Dutch one BTW
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