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"You've been sitting quietly for far too long.
Tell me; when did doilies and your mother's dishes become so important to you?
I remember a young hobbit who always was running off in search of elves and the woods,
who would stay out late and come home after dark,
trailing mud and twigs and fireflies.
A young hobbit who would have liked nothing better than to find out what was beyond the borders of the Shire.
The world is not in your books and maps; it's out there."
~Gandalf, The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey (2012)
{as quoted in Beth Moore's "Children of the Day" Bible
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Her body, once tall and strong, was bent with age, and her once youthful crown now dispensed straggly, grey tissue. I remember that long, tapered fingers, once strong enough to stroke music from ivory keys, had curled on themselves, and the piano sat dust covered in the garden apartment where a life's collection of fine furniture, silk room dividers, and china had been pared down to strain against the walls of this simple, rented room. There were boxes of tissues on the table, and snail like shreds littered the floor on the side of the ottoman that she could not see. A cat slinked along the back of the sofa like Cleo's barge gliding on the Nile.
I think now looking back that she was in all manner of pain.
I visited her there in the garden apartment on Friday afternoons for a whole year. There was never any tea for the pretty pot that sat in the china cupboard towering in the low ceiling corner. Her refrigerator was mostly empty.
She lived alone, whittled down to the last vestiges of her independence. And then even that was taken from her. Our visits moved to her assisted living facilities and became less frequent. And then one last visit in a nursing home. No one knew to call me when she was diagnosed with cancer and moved to the hospice.
On some of those autumn afternoons icing into winter and thawing into spring, she told pretty stories about being a young woman in the '20s, marrying an admiral in the navy, living abroad and raising children who were clever and now lived in distant lands. But she seldom spoke of herself, waving the veined marble of her curled hand in the air at her troubles as if they were light and momentary. She did not complain.
She fed on God's Word, it was honey and meat to her old bones, wrapping around her like the warmth of King David's Shulamite. She offered the Words to me on a tray, poured them into the frail cup of my heart like a feast of tea and buttered scones. We talked into the late afternoon about many things, often about my life. She knew the names of the children I taught and the troubles they had, she knew the hours my husband worked, and the little misfortunes and triumphs of my young daughters' lives. She spoke over us cataracts of grace.
The last time i saw her, she was lying in an exposed room in a hospital bed with clatterings and conversations spilling all around her, oblivious to her. Those blue, gas flame eyes stared sightlessly at the TV suspended in one corner of the room, the station dialed to a profane and sordid afternoon story. She had no voice to call a young nurse and gently instruct her to change the station, and in so doing learn about the nurse and her family, and then add her to the long scroll of intercessions now archived in the quiescent hull of her beautiful mind.
After that It took me weeks to find news of her. By then she was gone.
Her name was Rosalie. She was grandmother, mentor, and autumn flame to me. I remember how she faced the Growing Old and i bow my head and hear her voice from that once now gone October. . .
Therefore we do not lose heart. Though outwardly we are wasting away, yet inwardly we are being renewed day by day. For our light and momentary troubles are achieving for us an eternal glory . . .
~ 2nd Corinthians 4:16-17
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"I don't think with this group I will need to convince anyone to use a paper Bible," the young pastor looked around the classroom where seventy of us were squashed like sardines, and spilled out into the hallway of both back doors and lined the front under the dry white boards facing one another.
In one glance, he knew he had a Paper Bible group. The Bibles came in all sizes, narrow palm sized versions and the human infant sized variety bound up in zippered cases, some with lace.
My Bible was behind the glass of an e-reader. My beautiful light as air, thin e-reader with all manner of Bible translations, concordances, and Bible dictionaries at the swipe of one tiny finger had been a gift last Christmas from my husband and girls. And I could hold it for the whole one and a half hour class quite easily, and most importantly, with a pinch and expand, my thumb and forefinger could increase the font size to unbelievable clarity.
After class, I experienced a skirmish within. Would i give up my e-reader?
But by the next morning I knew. I knew. I was going to get a new Paper Bible. Even though I had worn out two Bibles in my lifetime, I was going to get another one and take this study in a Paper Bible.
Because I believe this . . . I had put myself under the authority of this teacher, and if I were going to get everything through him that God intended for me, I needed not to balk his instruction so early in the game. Besides, in one lesson he was proving to be a most dedicated, eloquent and disciplined teacher. He didn't ask us to do anything that he had not done ten-fold in preparation for class.
So. . .brand new, out of the box, large print, big-as-a-newborn Bible sits on my desk as I type. Study notes. Maps. A new translation I have grown fond of. The first morning, I forgot and turned to the e-reader, and then, abashed at having so easily broken my promise, I quickly turned to the Paper Bible.
For seven days, I have used that leather bound beauty, with its sheer, whispering pages and stiff gold edges. And this is what I have discovered.
Its presence forced me to work at my desk, where I found my attention held longer and I was less distracted. (I cannot check in with social media in a Paper Bible and I am far less likely to grow sleepy and close my eyes while sitting up.)
Returning to the same place of study every day, somehow hallowed the space, desk became altar, Jacob's rock of encounter.
The delicacy of the pages forced me to turn to passages carefully, almost reverently. My approach to God's word slowed down, increased my sensitivity to His presence.
The whisper of pages comes to me like a Still Small Voice.
In class, seventy pages of Scripture turning shushed against my ear, and i remember Scripture tells us that God's voice sounds like rushing waters. He speaks, I was reminded tangibly in the wind of paper sliding against paper, He speaks to us in His Word.
I noticed, too, that as I flipped through the text, looking up verses, passages flickered past my eyes like passing terrain, subtly informing me of context of the verse for which I sought. There is something organic in a relationship with a Paper Bible. More of my senses are engaged, like the difference between looking out the window of a plane as you pass to your destination versus the experience of covering the same terrain on foot, wind in your face, measuring your size by the trees over head or the mountain in the distance, alive to the details of the journey. I head out for the Tower of Babel and pass Cain in his bloody field and Noah looking up at storm clouds rolling in. In a Paper Bible, you can be diverted to a path off the road, come upon some scenic spot you may have missed in your e-reader. You trail ink under a verse and leave footprints on the path.
I am thankful for my beautiful e-reader and I appreciate its efficiency and speed, but I have been reminded of the sweetness of taking the same journey a little slower in a Paper Bible.
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i love the Dove campaign for real beauty. . .i love this article by Kasey Edwards. . . and i think both embody what Romans 12:2 is all about.
Dear Mum,
I was seven when I discovered that you were fat, ugly and horrible. Up until that point I had believed that you were beautiful — in every sense of the word. I remember flicking through old photo albums and staring at pictures of you standing on the deck of a boat. Your white strapless bathing suit looked so glamorous, just like a movie star. Whenever I had the chance I'd pull out that wondrous white bathing suit hidden in your bottom drawer and imagine a time when I'd be big enough to wear it; when I'd be like you.
But all of that changed when, one night, we were dressed up for a party and you said to me, ''Look at you, so thin, beautiful and lovely. And look at me, fat, ugly and horrible.''
At first I didn't understand what you meant.
''You're not fat,'' I said earnestly and innocently, and you replied, ''Yes I am, darling. I've always been fat; even as a child.''
In the days that followed I had some painful revelations that have shaped my whole life. I learned that:
1. You must be fat because mothers don't lie.
2. Fat is ugly and horrible.
3. When I grow up I'll look like you and therefore I will be fat, ugly and horrible too.
Years later, I looked back on this conversation and the hundreds that followed and cursed you for feeling so unattractive, insecure and unworthy. Because, as my first and most influential role model, you taught me to believe the same thing about myself.
With every grimace at your reflection in the mirror, every new wonder diet that was going to change your life, and every guilty spoon of ''Oh-I-really-shouldn't,'' I learned that women must be thin to be valid and worthy. Girls must go without because their greatest contribution to the world is their physical beauty.
Just like you, I have spent my whole life feeling fat. When did fat become a feeling anyway? And because I believed I was fat, I knew I was no good.
But now that I am older, and a mother myself, I know that blaming you for my body hatred is unhelpful and unfair. I now understand that you too are a product of a long and rich lineage of women who were taught to loathe themselves.
Look at the example Nanna set for you. Despite being what could only be described as famine-victim chic, she dieted every day of her life until the day she died at seventy-nine years of age. She used to put on make-up to walk to the letterbox for fear that somebody might see her unpainted face.
I remember her ''compassionate'' response when you announced that Dad had left you for another woman. Her first comment was, ''I don't understand why he'd leave you. You look after yourself, you wear lipstick. You're overweight — but not that much.''
Before Dad left, he provided no balm for your body-image torment either.
''Jesus, Jan,'' I overheard him say to you. ''It's not that hard. Energy in versus energy out. If you want to lose weight you just have to eat less.''
That night at dinner I watched you implement Dad's ''Energy In, Energy Out: Jesus, Jan, Just Eat Less'' weight-loss cure. You served up chow mein for dinner. (Remember how in 1980s Australian suburbia, a combination of mince, cabbage, and soy sauce was considered the height of exotic gourmet?) Everyone else's food was on a dinner plate except yours. You served your chow mein on a tiny bread-and-butter plate.
As you sat in front of that pathetic scoop of mince, silent tears streamed down your face. I said nothing. Not even when your shoulders started heaving from your distress. We all ate our dinner in silence. Nobody comforted you. Nobody told you to stop being ridiculous and get a proper plate. Nobody told you that you were already loved and already good enough. Your achievements and your worth — as a teacher of children with special needs and a devoted mother of three of your own — paled into insignificance when compared with the centimeters you couldn't lose from your waist.
It broke my heart to witness your despair and I'm sorry that I didn't rush to your defense. I'd already learned that it was your fault that you were fat. I'd even heard Dad describe losing weight as a ''simple'' process — yet one that you still couldn't come to grips with. The lesson: you didn't deserve any food and you certainly didn't deserve any sympathy.
But I was wrong, Mum. Now I understand what it's like to grow up in a society that tells women that their beauty matters most, and at the same time defines a standard of beauty that is perpetually out of our reach. I also know the pain of internalising these messages. We have become our own jailors and we inflict our own punishments for failing to measure up. No one is crueler to us than we are to ourselves.
But this madness has to stop, Mum. It stops with you, it stops with me and it stops now. We deserve better — better than to have our days brought to ruin by bad body thoughts, wishing we were otherwise.
And it's not just about you and me any more. It's also about Violet. Your granddaughter is only three and I do not want body hatred to take root inside her and strangle her happiness, her confidence and her potential. I don't want Violet to believe that her beauty is her most important asset; that it will define her worth in the world. When Violet looks to us to learn how to be a woman, we need to be the best role models we can. We need to show her with our words and our actions that women are good enough just the way they are. And for her to believe us, we need to believe it ourselves.
The older we get, the more loved ones we lose to accidents and illness. Their passing is always tragic and far too soon. I sometimes think about what these friends — and the people who love them — wouldn't give for more time in a body that was healthy. A body that would allow them to live just a little longer. The size of that body's thighs or the lines on its face wouldn't matter. It would be alive and therefore it would be perfect.
Your body is perfect too. It allows you to disarm a room with your smile and infect everyone with your laugh. It gives you arms to wrap around Violet and squeeze her until she giggles. Every moment we spend worrying about our physical ''flaws'' is a moment wasted, a precious slice of life that we will never get back.
Let us honor and respect our bodies for what they do instead of despising them for how they appear. Focus on living healthy and active lives, let our weight fall where it may, and consign our body hatred in the past where it belongs. When I looked at that photo of you in the white bathing suit all those years ago, my innocent young eyes saw the truth. I saw unconditional love, beauty and wisdom. I saw my Mum.
Love, Kasey xx
Kasey Edwards is an author from Melbourne.
This is an excerpt from Dear Mum: a collection of letters from Australian sporting stars, musicians, models, cooks and authors revealing what they would like to say to their mothers before it's too late, or would have said if only they'd had the chance.
All royalties go to the National Breast Cancer Foundation. (Published by Random House and available now.)
Do not be conformed to this age,
but be transformed by the renewing of your mind,
so that you may discern
what is the good, pleasing, and perfect will of God.
~Romans 12:2
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The cat calls for her dinner.
On the porch I bend and pour
brown soy stars into her bowl,
stroke her dark fur.
It's not quite night.
Pinpricks of light in the eastern sky.
Above my neighbor's roof, a transparent
moon, a pink rag of cloud.
Inside my house are those who love me.
My daughter dusts biscuit dough.
And there's a man who will lift my hair
in his hands, brush it
until it throws sparks.
Everything is just as I've left it.
Dinner simmers on the stove.
Glass bowls wait to be filled
with gold broth. Sprigs of parsley
on the cutting board.
I want to smell this rich soup, the air
around me going dark, as stars press
their simple shapes into the sky.
I want to stay on the back porch
while the world tilts
toward sleep, until what I love
misses me, and calls me in.
~Dorianne Laux, "On the Back Porch," Awake
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We sat in the low lights of the living room Friday night, the four of us, my family, after dinner, and spoke of the day, of the hours that we had remembered from the Passover Seder on Thursday, the ascent to the Garden upon leaving Jerusalem, the long night of prayer, the trial before daybreak, and then the hours on the cross on Friday. . .
The third hour. From the sixth hour to the ninth hour. The ninth hour. And finally, the evening hour, when the Day of Preparation began.
We spoke of Joseph of Arimathea. We spoke of the coming hours. Let us be quiet for one another tomorrow, we said. Keep the tv and music low if you must, turn on a light if you will, but be mindful so that if others are called to prayer. . .
So, i am with you for a few minutes this morning my Thoughtful Friends. The house is quiet. It is Saturday. The Day of Preparation.
In the house of grief, the women have stopped breathing. All housework has been completed. Meals are already prepared. On the table, by the door, the jars of ointment and spices wait. Their men have gone to the yard or to the work shop, where they sit quietly (for it is forbidden to work on the Sabbath), salted tear trails on their cheeks running into their beards. The synagoge seemed cold in the morning light. The rabbi hollow. Promises aborted before they had barely begun.
In the house of grief, we find that what we thought would never happen has. What we held dearest has been ripped from our grasp. We are gut sore from wailing, we are hoarse with tears. We are first writhing in fire, and then cold, empty, and numb.I think of Peter's wordless grimace as he falls to the threshold of his home, howling soundlessly as a cateract of rain falls loudly outside the door.
Could this be. . .the hour of Preparation?
A preparation that is . . . stripping down to nothing, the vast emptying of dreams, the deluge of releasing everything. . .and everyone. . .each one of our small, self-serving, delusional hopes. . .for something. . .more.
Is this preparation making room for something more?
Remember, I said to my daughters last night, when the Saturdays of your tomorrows come, and mommy and daddy may not be there, always remember. . .Sunday's coming.
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I believe Addo Elephant National Park was proclaimed on this day 81 years ago. Happy Birthday you have grown from a small park to one of South Africa's greatest parks. Every time I visit you, I come away relaxed and eager to visit you again. From those days in the past when we drove around the fence and climbed those mounds looking for elephants to today when many times I have been surounded by elephants every visit has been great.
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If Jad is indeed correct...................Happy Birthday Addo!!
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Wishing Addo Elephant National Park a very Happy 81st Birthday today! Thank you to the staff and our visitors for making the Park what it is today. May there be many more memories created at Addo Elephant National Park.
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Talk:Digimon/Archive 2
|This is an archive of past discussions. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page.
- 1 Digimon v.s. Pokemon section
- 3 Original Digimon Pages
- 4 Main article and anime article merged
- 5 Question.
- 6 Notable people
- 7 Digimon Airing Time
- 8 Pokémon and Digimon
- 9 Italicization
- 10 What happened to the List of Digimon page?
- 11 Movie Question
- 12 About the digimon manga Liscened by Tokyo Pop
- 13 Centralized TV Episode Discussion
- 14 Notable Persons addition?
- 15 Distinguish
- 16 External links
- 17 No connection
- 18 "Testicles" in Digimon
- 19 Chuang Yi
- 20 First released
- 21 Foreign versions
- 22 Categories
- 23 Digimon articles
- 24 Pokémon
- 25 Season Six
- 26 Eponymous
- 27 do they really class as movies?
- 28 Odd image in video game section
- 29 Disney
- 30 Date Differences
- 31 Shoutmon, Bagramon, DarkKnightmon, Greymon (Xros Wars)
- 32 Pokemon and Digimon comparison
- 33 not happy wikipedia
- 34 video game
- 35 Digi-Battle
- 36 One of the toughest articles to clean up
Digimon v.s. Pokemon section
A while ago, I updated the Pokemon and Digimon section, pointing out that Digimon tends to borrow more from the Mecha/Super Robo genre and pointed out several mecha references. This was removed for what is currently in place. I thought my addition was a good bit of Information, could anyone inform me why it wasn't such a good addition to the article? Granis 00:15, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
- It would be much easier to answer your question if we knew precisely what you had added, but according to your contributions page, you don't seem to have altered Digimon at all. If you altered it while using another account or an anonymous IP, could you tell us what day you edited the article.
- Oh yeah: next time, add your thread to the bottom of the talk page, not the top. You Can't See Me! 06:19, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
Why does it say this? Its coming out August 2007 in the USA.184.108.40.206 19:14, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
- Do you have a source for this? If so, add it to the article. -- Ned Scott 19:48, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
The news was announced on Apr 23 -- http://www.worldscreen.com/newscurrent.php?filename=toei042407.htm -- Savers will be on Jetix in the Fall.
Original Digimon Pages
Got a question, why on the individual digimon pages, it says that the original digimon partners lost the ability to digivolve to their ultimate forms? In the final episode, they learned that the crest's power was inside THEM, not the crest, therefore, they were able to redigivolve to defeat Apocylomon (cant spell it -.-). Also later on, in Season 2, Angemon was able to digivolve to Magnaangemon, so, why is this stated that they lost the ability? :/ Just because only Angemon did in season 2, doesn't mean that they did, just that it was never needed. Myzou 10:03, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
- Because that's what it says. There's an episode in digimon adventure 02 where there's a flashback of the 8 original digi-destined coming back to the digital world. And they're releasing the power of their crests to restore the digital world (after all the damamge the dark masters and apocylomon did). ANd one of them (i think it was TK or kari) explains that in order to restore the digital world, they and their digimon had to sacrifice the power of their crests, meaning the digimon where no longer able to reach the ultimate form.
- It does seem to contradict what happens at the end of Digimon Adventure, when the digi-destined realized they didn't need crests. But it was very explictly stated in Digimon Adventure 02 that the original digimon partners lost the power to digivolve to ultimate.
- Angemon digivolves to magnaangemon once in 02, and IIRC, it was when Angemon fell onto one of the destiny stones. And the power from the broken destiny stone allowed Angemon to digivolve. Later on, Azulongmon's power allows the digimon to digivolve to ultimate again. But the crest powers are gone. --`/aksha 10:40, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
- Specifically, the episode is #27, "Fusion Confusion" (ja: "Unstoppable Evolution, Paildramon"). It's even mentioned in the summary in the episode list.Circeus 16:46, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
Main article and anime article merged
After looking at the two articles there really was only two sections in Digimon: Digital Monsters that this article didn't have, and a lot of redundant information. Merging the two doesn't actually look too bad, and the article isn't too large, IMO. I think it makes for a stronger core-topic article. The anime article was just left over from the time when all the anime series shared that one page, before they were split off. I think the flow of information is less confusing this way and looks better too. Thoughts? -- Ned Scott 09:24, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
- My thought is that your thought was a good thought. ^_^ Indiawilliams 23:28, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
When exactly will this new Digimon season be aired in the United States? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 220.127.116.11 (talk) 20:14, 2 March 2007 (UTC).
- No one knows. There's been rumors that it would air this summer but so far there's no confirmation it'll even be aired in the US. Indiawilliams 18:15, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
- The Fifth season of Digimon is set to air in the fall of 2007 on Toon Disney's Jetix block (Unfortunately for those who do not have premium cable -.-). Caterfree10 03:46, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
Edit: Digimon: data Squad will be released On Toon Disneys Jetix block on October 1, 8:30PM. Ok —Preceding unsigned comment added by Joeoki (talk • contribs) 14:05, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
Notable people
I have cahnged the format of the "Notable People" section to include:
- Name: (what they did)
Any thoughts or comments on this change? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 220.127.116.11 (talk • contribs).
- No particular opinions on it, but please sign your talk page comments with "~~~~" --`/aksha 05:19, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
Digimon Airing Time
I was thinking wouldnt it be a good idea to add on the digimon main page when its aired? i know that its 8:00 in auustralia on toasted tv digimon tamers..is this a good idea? blitzer natu 01:26, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
I don't think that there is much point as what time a show airs can change every month. Wild ste 16:17, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
Hey, we need to remember time zones, here. The page says 8:30 pm. Where I live, it was 5:184.108.40.206.226 17:08, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
Pokémon and Digimon
The article says Pokemon has no tamagochi games. Don't these things count? I remember them being mentioned in the Pokemon Gold manual and seeing them at stores (additionally, I wanted one, but I never got one T-T).
http://www.p-pokemon.com/mini/tamagotchi-pikachu.gif http://www.p-pokemon.com/mini/pocket.jpg Jaimeastorga2000 07:42, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
Another thing, in Japan, Digimon came out 5 years before Pokemon. In America, the time difference was 1 year. I don't get why "people" think Pokemon came first. Sabre Knight 17:54, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
- The Digimon virtual pet came out in 1997. Pocket Monsters Red and Green came out in '96 and would have been released in '95 had it not been for a toy series with a similar name. Anyways, is the Pokemon and Digimon section really necessary? It's completely unsourced OR. In fact, I've never known of an official source to make this comparison. It's always seemed more like a fan rivalry thing. Oh, and yes, the Pikachu tamagotchi things do seem similar enough to Digimon Virtual Pets for a comparison (which is, again, completely OR). You Can't See Me! 06:24, 26 May 2007 (UTC)
- I agree. It is a rather useless section and doesn't really contribute all that much. Perhaps better as a separate article? Caterfree10 03:48, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
The reason people think Pokemon came out first is probably because Pokemon is 1) More popular (So they hear about Pokemon first) and 2) Digimon had a few years between the finale of season 4 and the premier of season 5. With pokemon, It was a couple of months, at most.18.104.22.168 17:11, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
- ...Or, it could be because Pocket Monsters Red and Green actually did release a year before the Digimon virtual pet. You Can't See Me! 19:06, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
Very true, but still... 188.8.131.52 (talk) 22:03, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
None of the Digimon articles seem to be able to make up their minds whether to italicize the series titles (Digimon Adventure, Digimon Frontier, etc.). On one hand, it makes sense: the titles of television series are always italicized. On the other hand, in many places, these aren't. Is this a deliberate decision, or a result of some pandemic laziness? —Frungi 02:45, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
- There are many articles and not all of them were italicised to begin with. I went through all of them at first but didn't know about the WP:MOS so I didn't italicise them. So, I guess, laziness, but you can always fix it yourself. x42bn6 Talk 13:00, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
- I was going to, but they're unitalicized so frequently (in most of the article, in fact) that I wasn't sure if it wasn't supposed to be so. —Frungi 13:11, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
What happened to the List of Digimon page?
Well, what happened to it... —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 18.104.22.168 (talk • contribs).
- You mean List of Digimon? -- Ned Scott 03:54, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
Movie Question
1) How many movies from Digimon have been released in the US, and 2) Will any more be released in the near future?220.127.116.11 19:08, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
About the digimon manga Liscened by Tokyo Pop
The digimon manga liscensed by Tokyo Pop, ie: Digimon Adventures, 02, Tamers are not really manga but Manwa and are actually the interpretation of the series from the view of the artist. In other words its not cannon material, and should be viewed as something similar to a doujinshi. It is also not recognized by Bandai or Toei. Essentially Tokyo Pop liscensed a doujinshi and not a actual manga created and recognized by the original creators as cannon material. So we shouldn't view any information stated in those manwa that was not any databooks, cd drama, manga, games, or the show itself as canon as it is something that the artist made up. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jazz189 (talk • contribs) 03:21, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
Centralized TV Episode Discussion
Over the past months, TV episodes have been reverted by (to name a couple) TTN, Eusebeus and others. No centralized discussion has taken place, so I'm asking everyone who has been involved in this issue to voice their opinions here in this centralized spot, be they pro or anti. Discussion is here [1]. --Maniwar (talk) 00:17, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
- You might notice that Digimon doesn't have episode articles.. -- Ned Scott 02:52, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
Notable Persons addition?
Grace Anderson (aka Megchan) served as the translator for the movies and for the first four TV series (up through Frontiers). She was not credited on the show, and her IMDB entry only mentions one of the films, but I consider myself a fairly reliable source as I am her husband.
As such I am only slightly biased towards her importance to the show. It's safe to say that if they hadn't hired her they've have hired someone else, but in the end it was she who did the work.
I'll leave it to the mods to decide if she should be included in the list. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 22.214.171.124 (talk) 06:48, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
- I know she was an invaluable help to the fan community, at the least. I can't see any reason not to include her, but there is a problem with sourcing - Wikipedia doesn't allow first person sourcing like her or her husband. However, if you could provide or write citation tags for even the meagerest of documentation, that would certainly be enough, and we'd be happy to add her name to the article.Not even Mr. Lister's Koromon survived intact. 18:26, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
- Well, exactly. I wouldn't expect Wikipedia to take my word for it (hell, how do I even prove I'm her husband?). I'll see if I can find the info somewhere. Thanks! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.108.40.206 (talk) 02:52, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
- Here's a link http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/people.php?id=15600 which lists her anime work, including the Digimon series and movies. Notable? I couldn't tell ya, but it's something, yes? :) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.108.40.206 (talk) 02:57, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
- That should be enough. Add in however you want the sentence to read, and then put <ref>[http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/people.php?id=15600 Grace Anderson's Anime Credits], retrieved from Anime News Network, 03/02/08.</ref> after the period.
- She worked on Flint and Transformers: RiD? I loved those shows!Not even Mr. Lister's Koromon survived intact. 03:16, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
A very common occurrence and seems to happen frequently between the two series is confusion of the distinction of one from another. Would anyone object if i added {{distinguish|Pokémon}} to the top of the article? Simply south (talk) 15:58, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
- It should be easy enough to distinguish just from the first few sentences - the confusion only really happens with people who know "Pokemon", only heard of the name "Digimon", and have off-the-cuff dismissed it. Anyone else searching for the article by name really wouldn't have that confusion, I think, and those who've already dismissed it pretty much won't be looking for more info. Then again, this is all my ramblings, so if anyone else supports the addition, go for it. I can't really see any similarity between the series besides having "mon" in the title, though.Not even Mr. Lister's Koromon survived intact. 18:36, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
External links
Is it ok if I add a link to Digimon Wiki (http://digimon.wikia.com/wiki/Digimon_Wiki) to the external links section (unless its already there and I missed it)? 184.108.40.206 (talk) 06:57, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
- Please do. Kuro Woof 13:46, 23 April 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kurowoofwoof111 (talk • contribs)
No connection
I object to saying Frontier has no connection to other seasons. Kazu, from Tamers, was seen in one of JP's flashbacks. Kazu's name was also mentioned at the time. In another episode, when they were looking for the Toucanmon, Gallantmon was seen and spoke with both Takato's and Guilmon's voice. In Zoe's flashback, some keychains with Wormmon were seen. This shows that digimon were known in the human world at one time.188.8.131.52 (talk) 18:19, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
"Testicles" in Digimon
Is there any particular reason that words like "testacles", "sex", and "rape" are listed under the "Digimon" section of an article likely viewed by thousands of children? I just randomly searched for this subject heading and noticed the description. I am not a fan and would correct the information if I knew anything about the show but I don't so I'm hoping that one of you guys would be willing to change the description of this series. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nikotene24 (talk • contribs) 07:18, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
- It was vandalism. It was immediately reverted, but this kind of nonsense is unavoidable on the internet.Not even Mr. Lister's Koromon survived intact. 07:37, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
Chuang Yi
I'm working on the Chuang Yi article and was wondering if anyone had an actual source for the information in this article about Yu Yuan Wong's Digimon comic. Thanks! :) --hamu♥hamu (TALK) 03:56, 24 July 2008 (UTC)
First released
If you are going to be the predictable "idk what you are talking about" person then I have the following instructions. Enter the article of which this talk page belongs to. In FireFox hold down "Ctrl" and "F" at the same time. Then copy ("Ctrl" and "V" at the same time) and paste ("Ctrl" and "P" at the same time) the following text: Digimon started out as a digital pet called "Digital Monster," similar in style and concept to the Tamagotchi. It was planned by Wiz and released by Bandai on June 26, 1995. You are now presented with the text I am talking about. Ok, so this line says it was released June 26 1995, but the article it links to (Digimon virtual pet just in case you were lost in the previous steps) says that it was first released 1997 (that is the year 1997). So which one is correct, because they are 2 years apart, which cannot be accurate. Maybe 2 seconds apart would be OK, but for an encyclopedia to contradict itself by 2 ENTIRE years seems a little too much to me. JayKeaton (talk) 13:41, 9 August 2008 (UTC)
I hope it's 1995. Just saying! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 126.96.36.199 (talk) 11:19, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
Foreign versions
The article states that the German dub was completely uncut and uncensored from the original. This isn't exactly true. Ending sequences were cut down and Renamon had her gender changed...I don't think you can still say uncut.
Since this is an article on the Digimon property, many categories don't belong. I moved the animanga categories to Category: Digimon anime and manga. The "TV shows by network" go in the TV show articles and the "Tokyopop titles" category goes in the article on the Digimon manga published by Tokyopop.--Nohansen (talk) 15:52, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
- Okay, sorry for reverting then.Not even Mr. Lister's Koromon survived intact. 20:07, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
Digimon articles
I remember a while ago, each Digimon had its own article. However, now, most of them are simply redirects to List of Digimon. Why is this? --22.214.171.124 (talk) 11:53, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
- Hello, I'm asking a question here. --18.104.22.168 (talk) 12:35, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
- Most of the pages were probably redirected because the individual Digimon characters did not meet Wikipedia's notability standards. You can go to List of Digimon at Digimon Wiki for a nearly complete list. Looking closer at a few, the character articles were redirected to lists and some were probably only ever on these lists. I think all of the following:
- as well as a few lists that were redirected to parent lists such as List of Digimon Adventure 02 minor characters. The lists were then soft redirected to Digimon Wiki after this AFD as a hold over until the articles could be moved there. (see this edit for instance) After that, the lists were redirected to List of Digimon presumably because that is where the notable character descriptions should be. The article should not just be a list to other articles so the fact that most of the links on List of Digimon redirect back to itself was probably never thought about. This, of course, is now a huge mess that needs to be fixed. All the lists that are still around are at Category:Lists of Digimon characters. RP9 (talk) 15:43, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
Does anyone think the rivalry of the Digimon media franchise with Pokémon is notable enough for inclusion in this article? Tezero (talk) 01:56, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
- Are there reliable sources for such a "rivalry"? —Farix (t | c) 02:44, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
- So far, I haven't seen or heard of anything about it. In fact, Pokemon and Digimon never really came face-to-face. The only "rivalry" I've seen so far is among some of the fans—not exactly something worth mentioning. Besides, the only similarities between the two franchises are 1) both have "mon" for "monster" at the end of their names and 2) with the exception of Digimon Frontier and X-Evolution, both involve humans pairing up with non-human creatures (though in the case of Digimon, all Digidestined except Willis have only one Digimon; in Pokemon, trainers have several Pokemon). Everything else is as different as apples from oranges.--Twilight Helryx 20:03, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
I want to ask, why it's only pokemon who gets edit protection while it's the fact that already showed us gazilion times that almost any Digimon-related articles get vandalism everyday? please, make at least "Digimon" (don't need to protect Digimon-related article) article protected so we can sit and breath peacefully. I've glad that yesterday Digimon was finally become a semi-prootected article, but why now it is removed again? —Preceding unsigned comment added by De of Sincerity (talk • contribs) 07:48, 5 February 2010 (UTC)
Actually, I have found a source for the series' rivalry: here. It refers to Pokémon as Digimon 's "constant competition and comparison". Tezero (talk) 16:10, 29 March 2010 (UTC)
- Yes, but that is a video game, not the franchise itself. If anything, it should be under the reception part of the respective game's page. --YamiMario (talk) 22:25, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
When I read the 'conception and creation' piece, the part where it mentions why it was brought to the United States and the citation for this is rather misleading, i.e. it comes off that the only reason it was created/conceived is because of this "kids liked cartoons with cool monsters wailing on each other, and they seemed to like the big-eyes thing, too" assertion. Is this true? I examined the citation itself and it reads more like a satire than what I originally expected. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.8.131.52 (talk) 11:22, 24 August 2010 (UTC)
- That says why it was brought to the US. I don't think there's anything against using words that are from an external journalist rather than from someone directly related. However, I guess I only added it because of the lack of something better, so I'll remove it now. Tezero (talk) 17:54, 24 August 2010 (UTC)
Season Six
Hi, there was nowhere else to add this but can someone tell me why whenever I add information (such as DIGIMON AROUnD info) who thinks they have the right to delete it? It's still Digimon related, it's more close to confirmed... all that counts is this is a Digimon section for all to edit, so stop changing it! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.8.131.52 (talk) 05:09, 17 December 2009 (UTC)
- It was removed because if fails Wikipeida's core policy of verifiability though reliable sources, which is non-negotiable. —Farix (t | c) 12:10, 17 December 2009 (UTC)
- I don't even know how to add those little numbers and source links I'm still learning but so far, could there not be a rumours section, as they exist in the Digimon community and if I find out how, add links to the origins of these rumours or evidence of where they exist? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 126.96.36.199 (talk) 17:31, 19 December 2009 (UTC)
"Rumors don't mean much on wikipedia". To be fair Wikipedia dont mean much in the real world. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 18.104.22.168 (talk) 20:15, 24 January 2010 (UTC)
The series seems to be confirmed according to the Anime News Network. As shown there. Simply south (talk) 23:27, 11 April 2010 (UTC)
- It is defintly confirmed now but under a different name than Digimon Around. Should we still keep the redirect or should now be deleted since that is not the name of the show?--220.127.116.11 (talk) 01:57, 20 April 2010 (UTC)
Can someone change 'eponymous' to something a little more natural? I consider myself a really learned individual when it comes to words, and I was able to figure it out from context, but I doubt most people know what it means. Can't it just be said 'namesake' or similar? 18.104.22.168 (talk) 17:57, 13 September 2010 (UTC)
do they really class as movies?
- Digimon Savers 3D: The Digital World in Imminent Danger!
- Digimon Adventure 3D: Digimon Grandprix!
seriously i just went to youtube and it seems to be 7 minute little videos while actual movies can last from maybe 25-60 mins but 7 minutes doesnt count —Preceding unsigned comment added by 18.104.22.168 (talk) 14:27, 9 October 2010 (UTC)
Odd image in video game section
I've played Digimon World 3 and that's clearly not a screenshot from the game as the image labels itself to be, in fact it is a poorly shooped image. For one, that is not the battle interface that Digimon 3 uses, secondly those aren't the graphics the game uses, thirdly the portrait of the protagonist and foe shown in the image are from Digimon World 2. Though the origins of this particular image has me curious, was it made in speculation of what Digimon 3 would be like in hopes of being a sequel to Digimon World 2? Or what one thought it should have been like? Or simply just for fun? I'd like some information on the image but I assume others may be as clueless as myself. Anyway if someone could change the image to represent an actual Digimon game, please do. I would do it myself but one edit isn't enough for me to justify having an account here that would most likely sit and rot afterward. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.8.131.52 (talk) 05:29, 18 March 2011 (UTC)
- I didn't make it, I just found it on the internet quickly because I thought there should be an image, and never thought much about it. Could you give me a URL to a better image that doesn't have a logo of IGN, GameSpy, etc. in it? Tezero (talk) 14:51, 19 March 2011 (UTC)
- It is most likely a screenshot from the beta or alpha versions of the game rather than the final one. ggctuk (2005) (talk) 20:00, 19 March 2011 (UTC)
- Here's a link to the screenshot of a battle from Digimon World 3.
http://www.iaza.com/work/110401C/iaza18493017837900.png —Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.127.116.11 (talk) 02:44, 1 April 2011 (UTC)
I heard Disney no longer owns the rights to Digimon. Is this true? And where can we put it in the article, properly sourced if it is true? ggctuk (2005) (talk) 21:40, 30 September 2010 (UTC)
- If a reliable source is found for that info, it can be added to the "Versions outside Japan" section. Powergate92Talk 22:49, 30 September 2010 (UTC)
Date Differences
I noticed that in the history, it has the release date for the Digimon virtual pet as June 26, 1996, but in the Virtual Pet section as a year later, in 1997. Do we know which one is correct?
Jats605 (talk) 18:24, 22 April 2011 (UTC)
- As far as I know, it's 1997. There are almost no reliable sources for that early in Digimon history, though. Tezero (talk) 19:04, 11 September 2011 (UTC)
Shoutmon, Bagramon, DarkKnightmon, Greymon (Xros Wars)
These articles are under threat of deletion. Anyone care to help save them?188.8.131.52 (talk) 19:08, 2 June 2011 (UTC)
Thanks to everyone for saving Shoutmon, Greymon, and DarkKnightmon. Only Bagramon remains to be saved.184.108.40.206 (talk) 22:06, 2 June 2011 (UTC)
Pokemon and Digimon comparison
This is just an idea, but what about a page with an ojective comparison between Pokemon and Digimon?
ahh NO i would rather die then see that pokemon is crap now those days sure maybe the first 3 seasons was ok but comparing them is not right and should not be done if it was you might get alot of digimon fans to trash the link --Wjmdem (talk) 21:06, 11 January 2013 (UTC)
- I Agree with the original unsigned comment. I was looking for a quick comparison on release dates for pokemon and digimon and there is absolutely no mention about it here. Was digimon created to purposely compete with pokemon? Was it the other way around? What's the story? 18.104.22.168 (talk) 07:32, 20 February 2013 (UTC)
hmmm where to start ok think about this both was making their brand pokemon hit the market first digimon was second but when i look at digimon i think they took more time developing it so the way i see it digimon was never trying to copy pokemon *--Wjmdem (talk) 02:08, 21 April 2013 (UTC)
- I was actually under the impression that they were both created by the same company...Either way i think the suggested comparison article would be useful. The obvious problem there is that you need the sources to do the comparisons. That's the biggest challenge you have. Good luck ツ Jenova20 (email) 11:52, 21 April 2013 (UTC)
same company Satoshi Tajiri the creator of pokemon and the creator of digimon is akiyoshi hongo both has never work together what's next you are going to compare Monster Rancher to digimon or pokemon... --Wjmdem (talk) 15:49, 22 April 2013 (UTC)
- No, just because they are both series about monsters doesn't warrant a section or article about comparisons. Pokemon was not the first, nor will it be the last monster collection series. They have no relation to each other, Digimon started off as a "Tamagotchi for boys" and not a ripoff of Pokemon as some believe to be. 188.8.131.52 (talk) 03:28, 23 June 2013 (UTC)
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whether or not cutting some of the digimon stuff is one thing, but how you doing it is very sloppy. There is a link on this page that says "list of digimon" and instead of a list of digimon, it takes it to a meager paragram that very shortly sums it up as egg- and rookie. this is very misleading and very slack. I have absolutely no faith in the current wiki admin, can you please put the info of the list of digimon back, its already stripped down as it is, thank you 220.127.116.11 (talk) 05:57, 5 August 2012 (UTC)
- I realise this is an old post now but we are the ones who edit the articles, not "wiki-admin". If you have an issue with the articles then suggest specific changes or make them yourself. You are capable of editing these articles or at least making a more specific suggestion on the talk page of what improvements can be made. Thanks ツ Jenova20 (email) 11:49, 21 April 2013 (UTC)
Digimon is horrible. It's a ripoff of Pokémon because Pokémon came before Digimon. There is a way Digimon is a ripoff of Pokémon. Digimon must be scrapped for good. It's now Pokémon VS Digimon.
Which is better?
The original, Pokémon (Votes: None)
The ripoff, Digimon (Votes: None)
Couy2865 (talk) 17:26, 31 May 2013 (UTC)
- Couy, Pokemon was not the first monster collection series and Digimon has no relation to Pokemon, it started off as Tamagotchi for boys. The only reason people compare them because of the similar names (Pokemon is Pocket Monsters in Japan but was renamed Pokemon to avoid legal issues with Monster in My Pocket in the U.S), the fact that it both deals with monsters and lastly the lack of competition. Otherwise, the similarities end there. If you want to argue about the "original", keep in mind Digital Devil Story is eight years older than Pokemon. Even then there still might be an older monster collection game, and if you don't limit yourself to video games, Obake Karuta is about 90 years older than Pokemon. And everything I mentioned so far? They are all inspired by mythological Japanese monsters, which dates far as back as ancient Japan. 126.96.36.199 (talk) 03:52, 23 June 2013 (UTC)
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quit editing that picture it is not digimon world 2 or digimon world 3 so i am replacing it i am tried of see it.--Wjmdem (talk) 04:20, 18 August 2013 (UTC)
Where is the mention of Digi-Battle a CCG from 2000? Leitmotiv (talk) 06:12, 28 August 2013 (UTC)
One of the toughest articles to clean up
Problem with this article is that in order to improve it to B-class or higher, we need to do more than just reorganize, we need to improve the other articles.
The thing is the metaseries is divided into series, and none of them are adequate. It'll take a lot of time, but we need to fix each individual series, compile all the media together that is directly related, and keep whats not into specific series currently listed into its respected media section. Lucia Black (talk) 10:52, 9 April 2014 (UTC)
- @Lucia Black: Improving other articles wouldn't be necessary to improve this one class-wise, but would definitely be helpful for readers. I'd be interested in working with you (and anyone else available) to get this article to GA-class, but that would require a number of reliable sources about the anime that I think would be very difficult to dig up, as well as completion of the cleanup issues you've raised. Tezero (talk) 17:14, 9 April 2014 (UTC)
- It'll get us more organized. the article covers too much on the metaseries based on individual series and it will be difficult to do so if we concentrate on the main page alone. if we improve the other articles, we can summarize the sections better. remember the core aspect of the series is the individual tv series. Lucia Black (talk) 21:08, 9 April 2014 (UTC)
- True. Incidentally, I may not be much help there, as I've only seen about the first 14 episodes of the original Digimon Adventure. I haven't checked up on the Digimon task force in ages; are there other currently active users who could help? Tezero (talk) 21:30, 9 April 2014 (UTC)
- We really dont need to explain the plot. although it would be good. we should be looking for media, development, and reception so that we can summarize the main article. plot info is easy to summarize. especially how simple the plots have been. Lucia Black (talk) 15:51, 10 April 2014 (UTC)
- I'm really not experienced with finding notable anime reviews, although I know the Anime News Network hosts a good deal of them. Development will be even more difficult, if there is any; it took me a good while just to find enough for the article's current "Conception and creation" section. That being said, we don't have to reference what genuinely isn't there. Tezero (talk) 16:59, 10 April 2014 (UTC)
- The least we can do is give a brief summary of the plot and the broadcasting of Japan and English. Otherwise, we're going to be removing alot of info. Lucia Black (talk) 05:01, 11 April 2014 (UTC)
- I'm really not experienced with finding notable anime reviews, although I know the Anime News Network hosts a good deal of them. Development will be even more difficult, if there is any; it took me a good while just to find enough for the article's current "Conception and creation" section. That being said, we don't have to reference what genuinely isn't there. Tezero (talk) 16:59, 10 April 2014 (UTC)
- It'll get us more organized. the article covers too much on the metaseries based on individual series and it will be difficult to do so if we concentrate on the main page alone. if we improve the other articles, we can summarize the sections better. remember the core aspect of the series is the individual tv series. Lucia Black (talk) 21:08, 9 April 2014 (UTC)
This specific article will take some time. so i'll be looking into the toy-line considering its technically the original media. see what i can find. Lucia Black (talk) 18:02, 11 April 2014 (UTC)


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The sight last Saturday of Derek Wolfe being taken from CenturyLink Field in Seattle via ambulance put a scare into a lot of Broncos fans; we all held our breaths to see whether his hands and feet would move.
Wolfe is fortunate - he's listed as only day-to-day with his neck injury, but the difference in how it was handled over 5-10 years ago is a major positive development for players in the NFL. Let's talk about some improvements the league has put in place.
Even a year or two ago, players were still constantly being sent back in whether they should have been or not. Teams had not been required to hire independent neurologists in the past - but in the future, they will have to. Despite my feelings on how long it's taken the league to get these procedures in place, it's good to see so many initiatives coming along.
When the trainers were out working on Derek Wolfe's injury during the Seattle game, I found myself thinking, "Thank heavens Malik Jackson has been stepping up." Jackson may not be at Wolfe's level yet, but reports out of training camp have mentioned Jackson's work almost daily. Wolfe's need to recover fully before the opener will mean even more reps for Malik.
Jack Del Rio believes in the importance of a front seven that attacks the offense constantly; he believes in it for defending the pass as well as the run. He recently commented:
Everywhere I've been, if you go back to Baltimore and Carolina and Jacksonville, it starts up front on defense. We've been fortunate to acquire and develop good players and put together a good front. I feel confident we'll be able to do that here. We've got a lot of work to do. We're busy doing that now in terms of developing guys we have. We've added a couple guys obviously in the draft and a free agent here or there. We're going to make it competitive. We're going to push that group. We're going to expect the front to really help us play great defense.
Denver's preseason-opening win at San Francisco featured just one touchdown - a fumble forced by Nate Irving and returned to paydirt by Shaun Phillips. Considering that these are the two players that may be most impacted by a possible suspension of Von Miller, I thought this would be a good play to look at.
The play starts at 7:28 of the second quarter; SF has been backed up by a good punt by Britton Colquitt and a penalty on the return, but a missed tackle by Omar Bolden on a pass to Kassim Osgood has them in 2nd and 1.
Many teams will try a long pass in that down and distance, counting on a third down run if needed to convert the first down. Instead, still deep in his own zone, Scott Tolzien hands off to D.J. Harper (36) for a run play around left tackle, and the whole game changes.
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Broncos offensive tackle Vinston Painter was often overwhelmed in the preseason opener at San Francisco (he wasn't alone - tenth-overall pick Chance Warmack learned that the NFL is different in his own first game), but the rookie has also been getting some positive comments from the coaching staff. This is what Jeff Legwold had to say, over at the Worldwide Leader:
When the Broncos selected Painter in the sixth round this past April, they saw an athletic project with a pile of potential. What they got was a player who has steadily worked his way up the depth chart, some by necessity because of injuries and some because he has advanced slightly more quickly than expected. Painter has worked much of the time as the backup right tackle, just behind Orlando Franklin. But the coaching staff showed this past week it doesn't think he's quite ready for work with the starters yet. Rather than simply elevating Painter after Franklin was injured, the coaches jumbled things up front, moving Louis Vasquez to right tackle in one practice and Chris Clark there in another.
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With Elvis Dumervil having moved on to Baltimore, I've noticed many suggestions that teams will be able to double-team Von Miller more often, and with effective results. They seem to quantify 'more effective' simply as a matter of reducing his sack total.
That some teams will try to do so is a fair bet. That it will bear fruit, to me, isn't as cut and dried.
I'd like to examine the idea as a matter of logistics, more than as a Broncos fan. I have an admitted tendency to view Denver players and schemes through the filter of being a fan - I just don't think that it's important in considering this theory.
There are a few basic assumptions that play into the validity or inaccuracy of the idea. Let's run through them:
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Over time, it's become obvious that some people still believe that NFL players should always have known their sport involves a high risk of lifelong problems arising from multiple concussions - and they have to know it by now.
After all, they knew about head injuries and boxing back in the 1920s, right? It's true - such a study was done, and it did show the dangers for boxers. There were more studies in the 1950s and 60s, as well.
There's just one problem here: the NFL has been telling the players that this was a nonissue for them ever since the league began. And that, my friends, is where the ugly truths begin.
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DEAR MS. LONELYHEARTS: Where do big women go to meet men in this province? Yes, I'm a big woman, but I'm active and take good care of myself. I have tried online dating on and off over the last few years, but most men I meet there want just a "friends with benefits" situation, or are looking for someone to take care of them.
I'm 37, with two older teenage boys, am generally happy with my life, but it would be nice to meet someone. I volunteer in Winnipeg, go to events there regularly and meet lots of interesting people, and many attached males (which are hands off).
I'd describe myself as friendly, average looking, and approachable. I don't get it. Is it my size? Does the fact that I'm a large, 5-foot-9 woman intimidate them that much? Your advice? -- Single and a Little Lonely, The Country
Dear Lonely: Your size is only intimidating if you put it out there apologetically, or you hide it. A proactive ad looking for a "big guy" could do the trick. Yes, there may be size jokes from a few goofs, but go on to clarify you want "big hands, big heart, big sense of humour." Rather than defending or apologizing for your size, look for a guy who's tall (a short, slight guy won't do) and who's up for a woman like you.
You should say you offer big things too -- generous heart, big curves, outgoing, entertaining, big friendliness, and tall enough for a basketball or football player. Tell them to stop looking for the sample sizes, because you're the real thing. If you're outgoing, say, "I can be a handful!" Guys who like your type will step up laughing and say, "I've got big hands!" It becomes a happy challenge.
NEVER apologize that you're a big girl! Put it right out there. Look, you haven't made a big effort to be a tall beanpole when there are methods out there to do so, so it's time to consciously embrace that you are happy being a big, tall, luscious lady.
Dear Miss Lonelyhearts: I hurt my mother's feelings very badly when I called her an "aging hooker." I'm afraid she may never talk to me again. It hurt her because it's the truth. She was uneducated and alone, and that's how she got the money together to raise us kids.
I was furious the other night because she'd been gambling and she hasn't got enough money to be doing that and there were no groceries in her fridge. I wanted to put her down, because I was angry. She was telling me to back off, that she'd spend what money she has any way she wants now us kids are raised. How do we get past this fight? I do love her and she loves me. She never had any men near the house, and never let us come to harm. -- Words as Weapons, West End
Dear Words: Handwritten letters are unusual these days, so write her a letter of apology in your personal script. Tell her how much you love her, and recognize how difficult it must have been in early days. Thank her for never letting you come to harm, and say you're sorry for your mean words, that you really don't think of her in a bad way and you love her. Come over with flowers a day later to see her, and give her a big hug and say, "I'm so sorry, Mom." Mothers love so deeply they are pretty good at forgiving when a "child" of any age is truly sorry.
On a future visit subtly leave behind a pamphlet on problem gambling help in Winnipeg. The "flowers visit" would not be the time -- too soon.
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Philadelphia Seminar on Christian Origins
an Interdisciplinary Humanities Seminar
PSCO Presentation: 11 December, 2014
"William Wotton (1666–1727) and the Christian recovery of the Mishnah in early modern Europe"
David Ruderman (Penn)
(details coming soon)
Meeting and Dining
All are welcome! As usual, those interested are also welcome to join us for an informal dinner prior to the session. Those wishing to dine together before the seminar will meet at 6:00 p.m. in the Second-Floor Lounge of Cohen Hall and then walk next door to the food court in Houston Hall. Or, just meet us in the Houston Hall downstairs food-court between 6:00-6:45 p.m.
As usual, the PSCO seminar will begin at 7:00 p.m. and end at 9:00 p.m. We meet in the Second-Floor Lounge of Cohen Hall.