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Romanticism and Contemporary Culture Conference --
Start log: Saturday, June 17, 2000 9:22:20 am Villa Diodati time --
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LisaA says, "is anyone here/"
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Mike says, "Are we in the right place?""
AtaraS says, "That's kind of a metaphysical question"
JayC says, "I think so. Note the Recorder."
Mike says, "Indeed""
Mike says, "Hi, I'm Mike Duvall. I coded the essays and the site.""
JayC says, "Thanks for all your help, Mike."
AtaraS says, "Are we supposed to be in a particular room?"
TedU [to Mike]: Glad to meet you.
Mike says, "Thanks, Jay.""
JayC says, "Mike, are you a lit type as well as a computer person?"
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JayC says, "Hi, Red"
LauraM arrives from Villa D. Dock
Mike says, "here's someone who knows. Are we in the right place, laura?""
LauraM says, "Yes! Jay, I don't have the location bar either, but I find "back" under "Go" at the top."
LauraM says, "We are all in the right place and are just waiting for a few more people."
LauraM says, "Does anyone have any questions about how to speak or emote?"
Mike says, "the story of my life""
AtaraS says, "I think I know the basic commands"
JayC says, "lol"
TedU emotes
LauraM says, "1o1?"
AtaraS says, "Laughing out loud"
LauraM says, "thanks"
JayC says, "At 'story of my life'"
AtaraS says, "Question: I only see Icons for Mike and Jay"
JayC says, "hit reload"
AtaraS says, "Good point "
Mike says, " or 'look' on the menu bar"
TedU says, "I see icons for everyone."
JayC says, "If we had menu bars!"
LauraM says, "Red Guest, who are you?"
Mike says, "you can also hit 'look' on the menu bar"
Neil arrives with a thoughtful expression on his face.
JayC says, "Mike, there is no menu bar for most of us"
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AtaraS says, "I have no way to reload"
Neil says, "Hi, everyone!"
Mike says, "oops""
JayC says, "Right click in the frame"
JayC says, "Hi, Neil"
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AtaraS says, "I have a Mac. No right clicking"
LauraM says, "I figured out how to get the menu bars. Click on "view," and then "show," and then whatever bars you want."
JayC grrr
LauraM says, "Hi, Neil."
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JayC (asleep) has disconnected.
Neil says, "Seems like there are a few technical problems."
TedU says, "Not serious. In the sense that they don't interfere with talking."
JayC has connected.
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AtaraS says, "Clicking on "Look" worked"
Neil says, "Good."
LauraM says, "someone has arrived at Lake L. -- I'm going to get them."
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Mike says, "to reload you can also type 'look' and hit return"
AtaraS says, "How do I change the color of my icon? "
AtaraS says, "red isn't really my color"
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Neil says, "You can edit yourself as an object, Atara, and change your icon."
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MichaelES says, "hello everybody"
AtaraS says, "hi there"
JayC says, "Hi, Michael."
Neil says, "Hi, Michael and Ron!"
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WizSteve materializes.
RonB gives a general wave.
AtaraS says, "Thanks Neil"
WizSteve ewaves back
Neil says, "Yo, Steve1"
WizSteve says, "Whassup, Neil?"
Neil says, "Are you ready for some conferencing?"
WizSteve says, "Sure. Are we convening here?"
JayC says, "Ready as ever"
TedU says, "Yep."
LauraM says, "Ready"
WizSteve says, "I saw some others lingering by the lake."
Neil says, "Maybe we should get them and then try to begin."
MichaelES says, "shall we start discussing Jay's paper and then move on to the oher two?"
WizSteve says, "Maybe they're all here now"
JayC says, "Fine by me"
LauraM says, "I think everyone is here now."
WizSteve suts up and turns to Michael
Neil says, "Ok by me, too."
WizSteve nods
LauraM says, "Jay, I was fascinated by your use of *Arcadia.*"
JayC says, "Thanks."
JayC says, "The students were blocked by the play when they first read it."
Neil says, "I especially like the collaborative editing project."
AtaraS says, "I looked at it this morning"
AtaraS says, "Very cool"
WizSteve says, "That play is so hypertextual already, no?"
JayC says, "They began to enjoy the work when they started explaining it to one another."
RonB agrees with LauraM. "I liked the allusions list and the idea that this can go on for several semesters of students working on material."
JayC says, "The wit is tough for 1st year undergrads."
WizSteve nods
AtaraS says, "I bet"
JayC says, "And the allusions are tough for everyone."
AtaraS says, "it would really help to see a performance"
TedU says, "But you use the allusions list to make it more accessible."
LauraM says, "My first-year students hated the joke, "So where is it that you don't teach" (Hannah to Bernard)."
TedU says, "In that sense, the emphasis on connectivity isn't just a hypertext issue, but a pedagogical strategy."
AtaraS says, "Why?"
AtaraS says, "Sorry. Why to Laura"
TedU nods
JayC says, "Exactly. (to Ted)"
LauraM says, "Maybe because of the way that I explained it."
LauraM says, "I thought it was a joke about scholars hating to teach, but now you are making me wonder."
MichaelES says, "Jay: have you noticed an increase of interest over the last few years, with the increased familiarity of students with the net?"
JayC says, "I find that it is important to teach the medium as well as the content."
RonB says, "and as already mentioned, the play works well with the medium."
JayC says, "Yes, Michael. Several years ago, even undergraduates were hesitant."
AtaraS says, "well, what your students have done is impressive"
LauraM says, "*"
JayC says, "Last year, for the first time, everyone came to the class with at least some experience on the Net--usually IM."
Neil says, "could we talk about PatchWork Girl? "
TedU says, "I don't know if this was your intent at all, Jay, but what struck me about your essay was the emphasis on allusions and connectivity -- true on several levels of form and content. From a pedagogical point of view, one good thing about this is that it helps students have the experience of what it feels like to read something in an informed way. What it feels like to be "educated.""
TedU says, "True of Patchwork Girl itself.#"
Neil nods
WizSteve says, "What did you have in mind, Neil?"
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Neil says, "As a text that forces consideration of medium as content"
JayC says, "It does, Ted. It also transforms the concept of intertextuality into something real, not an abstraction. Especially when the students work to put links in themselves."
WizSteve says, "Right. yet on those old floppies!"
Neil grins
RonB nods at
JayC. "yes.
WizSteve says, "The whole Eastgate moment was so important, yet..."
JayC says, "Explain, yet..."
WizSteve says, "There's a sense in which Joyce et al were from anotehr era."
WizSteve says, "hypertextually speaking. PErWEb."
JayC says, "They started it."
RonB says, "it also gives studens a model for working in hypertext""
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WizSteve nods, he does.
WizSteve says, "Have you treid to write in Storyspace?"
JayC says, "When I go to hypertext conferences, much of the work seems in the lineage of Eastgate."
TedU looks confused about Eastgate.
WizSteve says, "...a good way to make students appreciate PAtchwork Girl."
JayC says, "No Storyspace for me. I have always constructed everything on the web."
MichaelES says, "would you invite students to write in Storyspace?"
LauraM says, "Yes, what's "eastgate"?"
WizSteve says, "A software company that published M. Joyce's Afternoon, etc."
WizSteve says, "to Michael "I did, yes, but it's hard now..."
JayC says, "Eastgate publishes PG, too."
TedU nods.
WizSteve says, "...because of the platform."
WizSteve nods to
JayC says, "Working on the web seems more practical for the students lives."
Neil says, ": agrees"
MichaelES says, "the URL is http://www.eastgate.com/catalog/Patchwork.html (for the multi-windows peopleple "
WizSteve says, "right. But then there's Shelley Jackson."
WizSteve says, "Thanks, Michael!"
JayC says, "Web hypertext is limited in terms of the maps one can construct, but it's the cyber world we live in."
TedU says, "I think the "practical for the students lives" part is important."
Neil says, "Jay: have you given any thought to having students construct thisng such as MOO objects?"
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MichaelES says, "how much of your courses have you changed following students' responses/suggestions?"
JayC says, "Yes. Students' experience in Chats makes them natural MOOers."
RonB says, "we live the virtual already. so, its nice for students to see and construct in it."
LauraM says, "I do think English majors will be writing a lot of web pages -- more than will be going on to grad school."
TedU says, "The connectivity could otherwise be *too* challenging, too much like initiation into a grad school they never plan to enter. But the contemporaneity of the web modifies that."
JayC says, "My students have graduated straight into jobs as web designers."
LauraM says, "mine too"
WizSteve says, "Right. This is media-literacy we owe them, among otehr things."
AtaraS says, "yep"
JayC says, "I change my courses every semester after student comments."
Neil says, "Do you thnk that they continue to read hyperfiction after the course is over?"
MichaelES says, "do you think they read Romantic works after they're done with the course?"
WizSteve says, "Maybe startrek fan ficiton (I'm thinking of one guy) :->"
RonB says, "one could argue that they read things _as_ hyperfiction, too."
WizSteve says, "Good point, ROn."
JayC says, "Yes, Ron."
AtaraS says, "Fanfic is interesting in its own way of deconstructing the idea of an author, but that's another subject"
WizSteve nods
Mike says, "Do they read Romanticism as hyperfiction"
TedU says, "Yes. Do we want them to?"
JayC says, "And they read hypertext increasingly everyday, even when they are not on the computer. Have you noticed the superbowl commercials with multiple visual frames, linking associatively (if linearly) to different moments in the commercial?"
Mike says, "good quesiton"
LauraM says, "Allusiveness is always a kind of hypertext, isn't it?"
WizSteve says, "Fall of Hyperion as Firs Person Adventure Game?"
AtaraS smile
RonB considers the problem of narrative versus associative qualities in the Wordsworth's sublime.
WizSteve snorts
JayC says, "I think we very much want to read Rom hypertextually, because, as Laura says, allusion IS hypertext. Reading this way helps us understand how knowledge of the past ACTS in the contemporary world."
AtaraS says, "What about unconscious allusions?"
WizSteve says, "Right, Artara. Is it allusion or intertextuality?"
RonB says, "Yes, screens and layers of allusion.""
AtaraS says, "I think Romanticism has so pervaded the collective unconsciousness that people allude to it w/out nec. knowing they do."
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JayC says, "Intertextuality becomes a better theoretical construct to address questions of Ucs or unintended allusions."
LauraM says, "I wonder how "versus" narrative and associative actually are: even though they operate different spacially, aren't we always --whenever reading a narrative -- associating as we go along?"
Mike says, "is Rom special in this regard?"
LauraM says, "I agree, Atara: in some sense, teaching romanticism is making that unconscious conscious."
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AtaraS says, "I think of the Terminator as a Byronic hero, but I don't know if James Cameron has nec. read the Romantics"
WizSteve says, "But Byron has anticipated him?"
RonB says, "(right Laura, not versus, more as polyphonic)""
AtaraS says, "OTOH, U2's album "Achtung Baby" seems full of allusions to Shelley"
TedU says, "I think the difference is not about authorial consciousness, but about pedagogical (or readerly) purposes."
JayC says, "Yes, Ted."
LauraM says, "can you say more, TEd?"
Mike says, "could you say more there?"
WizSteve lookds to ted
TedU says, "When you say the Terminator is a Byronic hero, I think you're looking for a different sort of response than sheer recognition of intertextuality."
WizSteve nods expectantly
TedU says, "In fact, it seemed to me that in a sense the point of saying that sort of thing is to forestall a dismissive periodization."
TedU says, "In that sense, it's not about *placing* texts."
RonB says, "more of a rhizomic formation of infections?"
JayC says, "Yes, but also to foreground the problem of periodization, of how allusions (intended or otherwise) live on in the present. By how, I mean what mechanisms of media make them possible, how we recognize and respond to them."
WizSteve says, "& maybe recognizing how texts travle an what happens to them as they do?"
TedU agrees.
Neil says, "I wondered when I ready your essay, Atara, how you deal with issue of class with the Byronic hero."
JayC says, "Exactly"
LauraM says, "How do rhizomes/infections differ from allusions exactly? (Maybe because allusions allegedly have origins."
JayC says, "And subculture, Atara."
AtaraS says, "I try to show *why* an audience would be so intrigued by a Byronic hero"
JayC says, "I wanted you to address the issue of students who are Goths, Atara."
RonB says, "and work with intentions and building structures rather than deviations and mutations."
LauraM says, "Thanks, Ron, that helps."
AtaraS says, "well, the Goths get it more easily"
AtaraS says, "they're inclined to take a course in Romanticism b/c of their Goth interests"
JayC says, "In Jon Katz's GEEKS, he writes that good teaching can help desperate students. The kind of historical lineage for Goths that Atara provides could help perform this service."
AtaraS says, "I really want to make some kind of visual collage of black-clad broody heroes"
LauraM says, "So history is functioning therapeutically here?"
AtaraS says, "my Goth students are usually pretty cheerful actually. It's a pose for them, and they have a sense of irony about it"
RonB says, "whats also fine about this is the constructed nature of the hero."
JayC says, "Atara, when I make those kind of collages, I run them on a PowerPoint presentation behind me as I lecture."
AtaraS says, "More technology to learn. I need more time!"
JayC says, "College Goths may be better off than HS Goths."
AtaraS says, "Yes."
AtaraS says, "esp. b/c my students tend to be older"
TedU says, "I think this connection might be esp. important with Byron, who I find students are eager to dismiss as a brief cultural phenom."
JayC says, "Have you thought of doing an outreach program for HS teachers. The teachers would be deeply grateful to see a way to connect to the Goths in their schools."
WizSteve says, "Yes. Not goths necessarily but Geeks are responding to our High School MOO, we noitice."
WizSteve says, "See www.rc.umd.edu/rchs/"
Neil says, "We need to make the MOO more brooding as a place, I guess."
TedU snorts
WizSteve smiles (broodingly)
JayC says, "Just change your browser settings for darker backgrounds."
TedU says, "Ironic brooding is the best kind."
RonB ruminates on languge. a brooding.
WizSteve lol
AtaraS says, "I think the way to make Byron accessible is to show how he, on the one hand, created this brooding hero, but he doesn't take it seriously"
TedU says, "Yes. But students can't get the appeal even of that without seeing how they themselves enjoy the same kind of playacting."
MichaelES says, "do you use contepmroray representations of Byron in your class too?"
TedU says, "Which is where your collage comes in."
AtaraS says, "and once I start introducing contemporary descendents of the BH my class starts coming up with more"
JayC says, "Atara, I would like to hear you talk about how you address the different function of Byron images in today's culture from those they served in Rom period."
AtaraS says, "I brought an Angel action figure to class once. The students loved it. "
RonB says, "Have you tried starting with the contemporary then move to Byron?"
Neil says, "I've recently seen an episode of *Hoghlander* featuring featuring Byron as an Immortal--and a rock star."
Neil says, "Highlander, I mean."
AtaraS says, "Damn! I've been wanting to see that one for years"
LauraM says, "I've just been reading about Byron's "ennui" and bulimia, and both of those descriptions of him seem to connect him to different periods."
Neil says, "He is a very bad boy. And Shelley is a dork in the show."
AtaraS says, "Rice's Lestat is also a rock star"
JayC says, "Yes. Bulimia clearly meant something different in the 19C"
AtaraS says, "Shelley whines; Byron can laugh at himself"
WizSteve says, "Uhm, there's teh calss issue..."
AtaraS says, "Can I go back to Jay's question?"
LauraM nods
WizSteve says, "...which is why Byr'd be hard to place in our era."
TedU looks around for Shelley nervously.
WizSteve shuts up
AtaraS says, "I actually do think that Byron would be a rock star"
Neil says, "I've always used tehe Byron/Elvis comparison in class.he"
Neil says, "whoops!"
AtaraS says, "He's be exceedingly glamorous, but hold a lot of private contempt for his fans"
MichaelES says, "Velvet Goldmine?"
WizSteve nods
AtaraS says, "the rock star comparisons I tend to make are to Trent Reznor of Nine Inch Nails"
AtaraS nods
WizSteve says, "bloody Oasis."
LauraM says, "David Bowie (that dates me)"
JayC says, "Are there no historical differences in the functions that their (Byron/rock star) similar popularity and social stances play in their respective eras?"
Mike says, "good question"
TedU says, "Is celebrity a contemp. equivalent of "the class issue." I think it's close."
AtaraS says, "Jim Morrison, natch!"
Neil says, "I agree with Ted on this."
TedU says, "One reason I do buy Atara's comparison."
WizSteve says, "Byr's moment was when calss was jsut getting confused witih celeb.--right? He helped construct the latter."
MichaelES says, "Ted (moving on the discussion to our third paper): do you see a clear parallel between poet in 19thc and 20thc rock star?"
TedU agrees with
TedU says, "Not for Wordsworth. For same reasons Steve just articulated/"
WizSteve agrees
WizSteve says, "Violent Stimulants."
AtaraS says, "Indeed"
TedU says, "Yes, exactly."
Neil says, "How about for Shelley, Ted?"
WizSteve takes a swig of coffee
LauraM says, "One huge difference is press."
JayC says, "Ted, rock has the same emphasis on authenticity and originality as WW. But the corporate populism of rock music surely changes things."
AtaraS says, "But fans certainly *want* authenticity, esp. emotional authenticity"
TedU says, "Well, I don't believe either is *really* authentic, if you know what I mean."
AtaraS says, "I think Morrissey of the Smiths is a sort of reincarnation of Shelley"
JayC says, "I also wonder, Ted, about other contemporary music, such as rap, that emphasizes sampling, the postmodern antithesis of originality."
RonB says, "WW shows the same concern for copyright as Metallica in the MP3 controvesy"
AtaraS says, "I agree, Ted. It's a pose"
WizSteve agrees with
MichaelES says, "rap has often been compared to poetry in France over the years"
JayC says, "Yes, but WW's copyright was individual."
TedU says, "I don't think of myself as comparing rock to WW, really."
MichaelES says, "didn't WW sell his copyrights sometimes too?"
TedU says, "The strategy has more to do with avoiding students' desire for a rapid and dismissive periodization."
TedU says, "I would use the same strategy on non-Romantic works."
WizSteve says, "And your paper makes it sound fairly formalistic, right?"
TedU says, "Indeed."
JayC says, "That difference, between the ideology of private property and today's total penetration of capitalism through all aspects of culture, makes copyright more complex."
TedU says, "I think students are over-eager historicists."
JayC says, "Ooops."
WizSteve says, "So you focus on 'lyric'?"
TedU says, "Even though my own research is very historicist."
AtaraS says, "But they very much like seeing connections b/t the Rom. period and contemporary culture"
WizSteve nods
TedU says, "I'm aiming for where I thinkt he students are not."
LauraM says, "David Simpson argues the opposite, that we have to avoid presentism in the classroom because everyone is trying to avoid history."
AtaraS says, "It brings the material much more alive for them"
AtaraS says, "Why can't we do both?"
Neil says, "right!"
JayC says, "I liked what you said about premature historicizing, but I don't like the opposite tendency of thinking that parallels in two periods mean the same thing."
Mike nods
TedU agrees.
AtaraS says, "I think their popularity arises out of a similar impulse though"
TedU unagrees.
LauraM says, "THe over-eager historicism you are talking about, Ted, is the desire to talk about what it was like "back then" without having any info., isn't it?"
TedU says, "Sometimes they do. Not always."
TedU says, "I mean that sometimes parallels in two periods *do* mean the same thing."
WizSteve says, "I like Ted's dialectical approach--fair term, Ted?"
TedU says, "Yes."
TedU [to LauraM]: Even if they have info, sometimes it makes me uncomfortable.
JayC says, "There is never repetition without difference, as Kirkegaard said."
AtaraS says, "I think that the popularity of the B hero arises out the readers/viewers wanting a vicarious experience of a power they don't have"
JayC says, "and as Borges said."
Neil says, "Could you give us an example, Ted, of when they do meann the same thing."
WizSteve and marx said;_.
TedU says, "I agreed with Atara's formulation of that comparison."
TedU says, "Different circumstances, but there are commonalities."
LauraM says, "am I offline?"
LauraM says, "It's awfully quiet, suddenly"
TedU [to LauraM]: By over-eager historicism, I mean that students are eager to historically place poems before they have actually experienced them.
MichaelES says, "you're still here Laura"
AtaraS says, "and in some ways I don't see much difference b/t Shelley's self-pity, and the "alienation" and depression that so much rock music deals with in appealing to teenagers"
JayC says, "Ted, new question. Why don't we see if RC can put the songs you discuss up on the site?"
Neil says, "Talk about copyright issues!"
LauraM says, "Mike can address this . . "
JayC says, "Not so bad. Fair use."
AtaraS says, "You'll have problems with that!"
Mike says, "hmmm. I don;t know"
TedU says, "Up to the lawyers."
AtaraS says, "No fair use with rock lyrics. "
Mike says, "there have been suits about this"
JayC says, "Why not, Atara."
RonB says, "could you provide link to sites with the lyrics"
AtaraS says, "You'll have to pay for them"
JayC says, "Napster has two of the three."
TedU says, "Oh boy."
AtaraS says, "I recently got an essay on U2 published. We couldn't have quotes of more than two lines in a row"
Mike says, "and just publishing lyrics has been called into question"
MichaelES says, "but Napster was recently in the paper too for copyright-related issues"
Mike says, "right"
JayC says, "Publishers, which are slaves to their lawyers, tell you things that are true."
AtaraS says, "publishing lyrics is a huge problem"
AtaraS says, "I cut out a chapter in my book b/c of that"
LauraM says, "wow"
JayC says, "aren't true!"
AtaraS says, "too much of a hassle"
AtaraS says, "It's easier to show videos in class"
JayC says, "We should not let ourselves be scared away from exploiting the potentials of this forum by false interpretations of the copyright laws."
MichaelES says, "but don't you have to pay for videos (officially)?"
AtaraS says, "Well, yes, they're my own copies I bought. I'm a fan too. "
Neil says, "I'm curious, Jay. would Vanderbilt let you mount those songs on their server?"
JayC says, "Ted, yet another question. Could you explain how you made "embarrassment" work in the classroom?"
WizSteve says, "Jay makes an important point abotu not letting ourselves be cowed before teh fact, though. But personal home pages are different from institutional sites."
WizSteve says, "(Sorry, Jay--go ahead, Ted.)"
JayC says, "Neil, I'm not sure. But law professors tell me that fair use is a more encompassing protection than we realize."
TedU [to JayC]: Well, that's one of the trickiest aspects. I'm not sure I did get it to wholly work.
JayC says, "The students' embarrassment, I presume?"
TedU says, "There's some benefit to breaking the boundary between classroom and dorm room. And I think that always requires/generates embarrassment. But it can also be unproductive."
TedU says, "My embarassment too."
TedU says, "That's one of the practical aspects of doing this. It tends to be embarassing."
JayC says, "I like the implication of your classroom as a transactional site, where emotions must be 'worked through'"
TedU says, "For one thing, you woprry about dating yourself."
LauraM says, "Ted: do you think that "experiencing" Romantic poetry differs substantiallly from experiencing contemp. music because they are not the same kind of commodities -- that all commodities are not equal, not even (or especially) in structure?"
AtaraS says, "I have less of a problem with that b/c I have many students close to my age"
MichaelES says, "how about proper retelling of romantic poems (such as Iron Maiden's 7' song on the ancient Mariner)?"
TedU nods to Atara.
RonB considers the various renditions of Blake's Songs.
JayC says, "When I teach lit theory to graduate students, or other difficult material to undergrads, I like to foreground emotions such as frustration, anger, bewilderment. Foreground, endorse, and then reflect upon."
AtaraS says, "I would say that Byron's poems and self-image *were* commodified"
TedU [to LauraM]: that's one of the implications of Wordsworth's attitude to those sicky and stupid German plays. I can't get around it. He would have considered them different things.
AtaraS says, "Gross and violent stimulants"
AtaraS says, "Which I compare to horror and action movies in class"
TedU says, "Yes. But I don't fully agree with WW on this."
LauraM says, "but I was just even thinking of the different copyright issues at stake for us in this discussion -- don't those financial and legal issue enter into emotional experience?"
MichaelES says, "yet popular when he wasn't, hence possible sarcastic response"
TedU says, "Nevertheless, it's something I should thematize in class more than I yet have."
JayC says, "Say more, Laura."
LauraM says, "well, there is a different kind of expense, and a different kind of cultural capital required for "purchasing" _Lyrical Ballads_ than *Iron Maiden*, right/"
TedU says, "I agree. It feels different."
WizSteve says, "Now, you mean? In our historial moment?"
TedU says, "Even then."
TedU says, "Poetry carried more cultural capital then than rock does now. Though rock carries some."
RonB says, "more than a man speaking to men, eh?"
WizSteve says, "Is it teh growth of a true Mass audience?"
LauraM says, "yes, and the cultural capital for purchasing LBs in WW's moment would have been very different ffrom that required now."
TedU says, "Though some alternarock comes close."
TedU says, "It's partly a matter of being in the know."
MichaelES says, "and even for truly expensive Byron volumes (see Felluga's recent article in ERR for sin.tance)"
TedU says, "This is really an important point Laura has raised, and I think it needs to be discussed. In some ways, this is a third thing contemporary culture can do for us."
LauraM says, "there is something more middle-class now about knowing Romantic poems now (I hope I'm not offending anyone), and something more highbrow about knowing a lot about popular culture at this particular moment (2000)"
JayC says, "Are we seeing the closure of the epoch in which information can be treated as private property, an epoch that opened right before the Rom period? The law professor Lawrence Lessig things it's possible."
TedU says, "I mean, other than considering historical connections, and other than helping students avoid overeager periodization, contemporary culture can also help us teach cultural theory."
JayC nod
WizSteve says, "Right. Critiquing and possessing pop cult are different ways of knowing."
AtaraS says, "I try to do both"
AtaraS says, "that brings up the whole fan/academic question"
WizSteve says, "As always :->"
AtaraS says, ""Without Contraries is no Progression.""
WizSteve listens to Atara
AtaraS grin
WizSteve smiles in True Friendship
TedU says, "I think the whole cultural capital discussion we just had is something I would very much like to transpire in my classrooms."
JayC says, "Atara. I have a question for you. Could you discuss how the identity cagegory of 'fan' works in your thinking about knowledge? Are you suggesting a kind of situational epistemology, where one must be a fan on some level to 'know'>"
AtaraS says, "I "consume" popular culture as much as my students do, and I hope they learn a bit about how to critique it at the same time they enjoy it"
LauraM says, "[To Ted:] a little Bourdieu never hurt anyone . . ."
AtaraS says, "Fandom has been so transformed by the net"
AtaraS says, "There are many levels of fandom"
LauraM says, "Instensified?"
WizSteve says, "But to recongnize the different modalities of those ways of knowing, I'd suggest, is somethign we can help them with."
AtaraS says, "Oh Yes"
RonB says, "We show our investments in our areas of research, fandom is part of this investment."
TedU [to LauraM]: Do you actually have them read Bourdieu? (I'm a fan, but I don't have them read it.)
MichaelES says, "fans now have a more direct impat on production than during the rom period - they can sustain a sho's presence on tv for instance"
AtaraS says, "I think I'm on over 10 Buffy and Angel related mailing lists"
JayC says, "Yes, but I like to help students who are NOT fans see that they nonetheless have a connection with the contemporary material."
WizSteve nods
AtaraS says, "Well, that's complicated. I try to spread out my contemporary allusions b/c I have students ranging in age from 20 to 70's"
LauraM says, "[to Ted]: Bourdieu can be difficult, but I "do" Bourdieu for them, talk at length about how "the distinctions you make distinguish you.""
JayC says, "Students, teachers, are implicated in the contemporary structure of response, and so they need to think critically about it."
LauraM says, "does anyone remember the name of that video that critiques the sexist images on MTV?"
TedU nods in response to Laura.
JayC nodes in response to Laura, too.
WizSteve slips quietly, regretfully, out the back...
WizSteve goes home.
LauraM says, "Should we wind things down, everyone?"
JayC says, "Should we wrap this discussion up?"
LauraM nods.
MichaelES says, "since some people may start logging off, I'd like to thank oficially our three contributors."
TedU says, "I have to go soon, too."
AtaraS says, "You're welcome"
Neil says, "Thanks to all!"
JayC says, "It was great fun!"
LauraM says, "THis has been such an excellent discussion."
RonB applause.
TedU says, "Thanks very much. I really enjoyed the intensity of the exchange."
LauraM says, "We have it recorded, to revisit later."
MichaelES says, "we'll be in touch about the records, and then the Praxis issue. thanks again oeveryone!"
JayC says, "Bye, all."
LauraM says, "Goodbye!"
RonB says, "I hope RC will do more of this in the future. really fine. bye."
Neil waves farewell!
AtaraS says, "Farewell" Neil (asleep) has disconnected. Mike (asleep) has disconnected.
JayC (asleep) has disconnected.
MichaelES (asleep) has disconnected.
TedU goes up.
LauraM (asleep) has disconnected.
AtaraS (asleep) has disconnected.
The housekeeper arrives to cart Neil off to bed.
The housekeeper arrives to cart Mike off to bed.
The housekeeper arrives to cart
JayC off to bed.
The housekeeper arrives to cart
MichaelES off to bed.
The housekeeper arrives to cart
LauraM off to bed.
The housekeeper arrives to cart
AtaraS off to bed.
RonB (asleep) has disconnected.
Orange_Guest leaves for Byron's Library
The housekeeper arrives to cart
RonB off to bed.
Red_Guest arrives from Villa D. Dock
Red_Guest leaves for Villa D. Dock
Archwizard arrives from Villa D. Dock
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How many things do we walk past every day and never notice? There are beautiful things all around us, but sometimes people are just too busy to notice.
Often students rush through Connelly Center on their way from class to class, maybe stopping to get a quick bite with a friend before rushing off to their next commitment but nonetheless walking right past it. Many people know it's there but never see, never go in and never take the time to soak up everything it has to offer.
The Villanova Art Gallery, located on the second floor of Connelly Center, is one of the many hidden gems of campus. But, like the basement floor of Tolentine Hall or top floor of Old Falvey Hall, it seems to have an almost mythical stigma. Many students will go their entire Villanova career without ever stepping foot inside.
Once inside, however, it is clearly evident that it is a hidden treasure of the University. The soft lighting and the displays of colorful and powerful paintings on the walls make it feel like a serene oasis away from the organized chaos of college life.
The gallery was started in the early '80s by Rev. Richard Cannuli, O.S.A., who is still the director today. It began as a place to display the collections that were being gathered in Falvey Hall, according to Maryanne Erwin of the gallery office. While gallery functions and shows are funded by the University, the artwork displayed in its exhibits is donated. The exhibits come from all over the world. For example, in 1998 there was an exhibit on Egyptian-born artist, Magdi Wadie Mushriqui.
The gallery staff strives to find art and exhibits that they think the students will want to see, according to Erwin, but it is a constant struggle to bring students into the gallery as it is such a marginalized part of campus that few people know about. The staff is focused on exposing students to art of all kinds. Public receptions are held every Friday from 5-7 p.m., complete with free food.
"Art is important no matter what you do professionally," Erwin says. "It turns on the other side of your brain."
The exhibits of the gallery are wide-ranging, from painters to sculptors to illustrators, and they all have a story. Recently, the exhibit on display was "Ray Sternberg-A Retrospective."
The late Sternberg was a Long Island native who attended the Pratt Institute in the '50s. Made his living doing illustrations for comic books, book covers, industrial design and directing art departments in marketing, according to the gallery press release on the exhibit.
Sternberg continued painting and sculpting but never put his extensive collection of works on display. The "Retrospective" is almost entirely made up of never-before-seen pieces.
"Dad wasn't interested in changing the world with his art," his daughter, Jennifer Huft, said in the press release. "He painted for himself. It was pure selfish love and joy."
The exhibit was conceived when Huft, a Villanova alumna herself, invited Fr. Cannuli to their home on Long Island to see her late father's collection.
The pieces in the collection ranged from cubist and realist paintings to illustrations and still-lifes, and even included an extensive set of miniature airplanes carved from balsawood, themed after the seasons and holidays.
Sternberg's never-before-seen pieces were not the only pieces of interest. In the fall, there will be the exhibit "Hello Yello! Jean-Nole Vandaele," a French artist whose work shows all over the world. Appearing after "Retrospective" left the gallery on April 11, "Objects and Elements, Sculptures by Carol Cole" debuted. Cole is a sculptor who gathers her materials from junkyards, yard sales and flea markets and sculpts them into vibrant pieces.
The Villanova Art Gallery is a place of stories; each piece hanging on the wall or set on a podium has one to tell.
The gallery is open to the public every day, and is full of amazing artwork with a life and a conversation of its own, even though thousands of people walk right past it.
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The city is fielding numerous calls from businesses interested in being the first to locate in the Palm Avenue parking garage. It hopes to sign contracts with all of the businesses it chooses within the next two or three months.
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So, what cuisine is specifically Dutch? I would argue (cynically, exhaustively) that there isn't any such thing - that isn't somewhat Germanic or even Flemish in influence or source. On the latter score I'd indicate the rich assortment of condiments applied to fries - I'm sure chips & mayo is Flemish, as is chips and chilli sauce and mayo, but then, perhaps exceptionally, chips and satay sauce isn't. OK, I'd make a concession, chips AND mayo AND satay sauce is perhaps uniquely Dutch: 'patatje oorlog' (chips war) is a unique achievement for which the former Dutch occupation of Indonesia may have played a minor causal, historical role. For anyone traveling to Holland, I'd say head to the nearest 'friet tent' and get your hands on a serve of this truly authentic culinary wonder. It's a flavourgasm.
By which preamble to say: the real test of Dutch food is apple pie (appeltaart). Almost any cafe in Holland serves and prides itself on its apple pie. Even train station restaurants, even the Hema department store. Sit down, order coffee and pie (koffie met gebak; there's usually a combo price), and dig into the true taste. House-made? Fresh? Not too soggy? Not too sweet or laden with cinnamon or sultanas? Evenly cooked, finely textured all the way through? A good match with cream? Does the pastry dough have good mouth-feel? Do you want a second piece, and is the view and the setting nice? Is there some vaguely German oompah music playing in the background somewhere...
That's how you get the real cuisine, methinks.
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Apple pie
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A Venice list (travel note)
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Amsterdam: Begijnhof: Churches (travel note)
Image source: m_strasser / flickr
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Meanwhile, somewhere in Brisbane
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Pat Metheny - Orchestrion
The Orchestrion in action - this video explains all.
And I realise, watching this now, that Pat probably uses a mix of programmed and live triggers with midi controls on his guitar, to give even more variety/precision.
And I realise, watching this now, that Pat probably uses a mix of programmed and live triggers with midi controls on his guitar, to give even more variety/precision.
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A short meditation on drone warfare
I am indebted to this article by Nasser Hussain: The Sound of Terror: Phenomenology of a Drone Strike
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Chuck Heath: Levi Johnston is a Deadbeat Dadby Hilton Hater at . Comments
Sarah Palin might be able to see Russia from her house.
But can she also see what her ongoing family drama is doing to her political future?
Palin's father, Chuck Heath, is the latest to get involved in the back-and-forth between Palin's camp and Levi Johnston. Heath said his granddaughter's baby daddy "has not contributed anything" to Tripp, who was born last December.
A sign of things to come? Bristol was already holding babies away from Levi at the Republication National Convention.
Johnston, of course, has been making the media rounds.
First, he appeared on The Tyra Banks Show and claimed that the Alaska Governor likely knew he was banging Bristol; then, he went on The Early Show and said the Palin family won't let him be alone with his son.
"I don't agree with what he's doing right now," Heath told Us Weekly of Johnston's press tour. "It's not right. He's broke, so he's trying to capitalize on this. I wish he'd take some of this money he's making and buy some diapers with it."
This would all be a typical, Hollywood family feud... if it didn't prominently involved someone that was A VICE PRESIDENTIAL NOMINEE SIX MONTHS AGO AND WHO IS CONSIDERED THE REPUBLICAN FRONT-RUNNER FOR THE 2012 PRESIDENTIAL NOMINATION!!!
As such, it's downright hilarious, and sort of depressing for the country.
You guys have seen the interviews right? To me it just seems like this guy obviously just wants to see his baby, so badly he has to get national attention. The Palin's fire back at his calm request with fabrications, they look very absurd.
bristol is very pretty but i think levi is really wierd... the baby is cute tho