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Anime: Tragedy Replaces Happy Ending in Fairy Tales
New America Media, Commentary, Andrew Lam Posted: Dec 27, 2009
Let me tell you a story. Once upon a time in a village full of ninjas there lived an orphan named Naruto. When he was born, the chief of the village sealed a powerful and malevolent spirit of a nine-tailed fox inside thee childs belly. Whenever Naruto loses control of his emotions, the fox takes over and wreaks havoc.
Naruto knows tragedy intimately. His parents were killed in a war; Sasuke, his best friend, lost his entire clan to a murderous brother and became hell-bent on revenge; Jiraya, Narutos favorite teacher, was murdered by another student named Pain, whose aim was to destroy the world. Sai, the newest member to join Narutos ninja team, had to kill his classmates in order to graduate from his martial arts school.
Magic, romance and martial arts aside, the story of Naruto would put horror master Stephen Kings novels to shame. Yet the Japanese manga (comic book or graphic novel) and anime (Japanese animation) series has become wildly popular all over the world. And in the United States, it has presented children with a radically divergent narrative than that of fairytales told a generation ago.
There are no soft landings, no candy-coated protection in the story lines from the Far East. Behind those round, puppy-eyed, cuddly characters, with their perfect western features, lies a set of ancient eastern sensibilities informed by human suffering rarely known in the land of happily ever after. It is why, now in middle age, as an immigrant from a war torn country, Vietnam, I watch Naruto religiously.
A few years ago in Tokyo, I asked professor Koike Kazuo, the celebrated author of the "Lone Wolf and Cub" manga series, about the difference between Japanese and American comic books. "Japanese mangas tend to deal with complex characters that are both suited for children and adults, he said. Superman and other American superheroes, he said, "are too overwhelming, like the U.S. military forces with their high-tech weapons. You grow up and get bored by them." Not so with Japanese protagonists. "The characters may have some powers, but they are vulnerable. They might be beaten by somebody, and people who read manga sympathize deeply with these characters.
For Japanese adults, good manga is seen on the same level as a contemporary novel. If Superman and Spiderman have wives and kids and real domestic dramas, Koike said, they will have adult readers.
Koike, a history professor, can speak with authority. The first issue of the "Lone Wolf and Cub" U.S. edition sold around 120,000 copies in the late 1970s, making it the best-selling manga in the United States for decades. In Japan, the epic became one of the longest-running TV shows in its history, and was made into a six-film series.
Its the story of a samurai who took his baby boy on a road to hell and became an assassin for hire while seeking vengeance against Retsudo, a powerful man who ordered the massacre of his clan. Daigoro grew up watching his samurai-turned-assassin father slash, stab and chop their enemies. In the final confrontation, with his father slain and Retsudo, their arch nemesis, wounded, the little boy picks up his enemys spear and rushes furiously toward him. Recognizing spiritual kinship in Daigoros warrior spirit, Retsudo embraces the boy and, as his own spear pierces his heart, cries out: Grandson of my heart!
Not exactly kid stuff of the late 70s. But these narratives are now vying for the attention of American kids. The saccharine happily-ever-after ending that has been spoon-fed to children by the church of Disney since the end of World War II is being seriously challenged.
Coined in 1815 by woodblock artist Hokusai, "manga" described his illustrated doodles as "involuntary sketches or unintentional pictures." But manga didn't turn into entertainment for children in Japan until 1952, nearly a century-and-a-half later, when Tezuka Ozamu created Astro Boy, the story of a robot with a human soul, a sort of modern-day Pinocchio.
Since Astro Boy, the sadness, fear, joy, humor and desire, not to mention aesthetic expressions and various sexual appetites of the Japanese people, have found audiences throughout the world.
In the United States, major outlets like Barnes and Noble and Amazon peddle an array of Japanese anime DVDs and manga. On cartoon networks, viewers can watch dozens of anime shows catered to all ages. And thousands of stories from robot romances to cooking obsessions, from teenage alienation to various sexual situations, from government corruption to intergalactic noir detectives series are available online anytime via sites like Yout ube, Vimeo and AniLinkz.
Anime-related merchandise like dolls and action figures peaked at around $5 billion by 2005, and has suffered a downhill trajectory ever since. The main cause? It is, ironically, due to the enthusiasm of fans worldwide. Thanks to an army of devoted admirers unauthorized scanning, uploading and translating the anime-manga global archive is growing at a breakneck speed and readily available for free.
In his book Japanamerica, writer Roland Kelts, an American writer of Japanese ancestry, noted, Anime is producing quality content at a time when quality is becoming endangered by advances in technology, which are outpacing attempts to control and even monitor distribution. And anime greets the American viewer with an enormous back catalog, making it a powerful force in the digital age.
American animation, such as that produced by Pixar and Disney, Kelts wrote, are like bursts of genius. But the allure of manga, where theres always something more to discover, lasts into adulthood.
Professor Koike never wrote his stories thinking they would be read by non-Japanese. On the deepest level, he said, serious mangas are about spiritual drama and love."
Indeed, it is the spiritual drama in many of these stories that most interests me. It is what has drawn me to watch Naruto online. I recognize the Old Worlds narratives in these Japanese stories. The nine-tailed fox is, after all, a creature of myth in the Far East as old as the hydra or the Minotaur in ancient Greek mythology.
And spiritual drama always moved beneath the sad-ending fairy tales I knew growing up in Vietnam during the war. Those unbearably hot afternoons in Saigon, my older siblings and I would often throw a mat on the tile floor in my grandma's room, the coolest in the house, and beg her for a story. Decades and a continent away, I can still hear her storytelling voice, low and sad, lulling her grandchildren toward phantasmagorical and melancholic dreams.
The husband fled after he realized that he had married his long-lost sister by mistake, and one night both mother and child turned into stone on the sea cliff ... The love sick princess died, her heart turned into a ruby, and the grieving king had it carved into a teacup and whenever he poured tea into it, the image of her paramour, the singing fisherman on his boat, appeared and floated to and fro ... In order to let his jealous older brother live happily with his new bride, a younger brother left home to die in the forest and overnight turned into a limestone.
In grandmas stories, noble deeds were rarely rewarded with happily-ever-after endings, broken love was the norm, and those who did good were often punished. Yet, there was a mature wisdom in the stories resolution: The loyal wifes virtues were reserved forever in stone and in time she became a local goddess known as the Stone Waiting For Her Husband When the fisherman saw his own image in the ruby teacup, he cried, and his tears fell into it and the cup melted back into blood and disappeared, her love requited at last ... The older brother died, wracked with guilt for distrusting his own sibling, and turned into an areca tree. His new bride followed and she turned into a betel vine. When you combine the betel leaf and areca fruit and a bit of limestone paste and chew, you get a tingling sensation on your tongue, Grandma said as she chewed, then spat and laughed. See, your spit turns into the color of blood. Its true love, which is always sad and complicated.
Grandmother told fatalistic tales that were thousands of years old, and if they were sad and strange, there was a sound reason for this morbid existentialism. Considering how many generations had seen war and experienced natural disasters, considering how calamities have a way of destroying hope, those stories were concerned with the spiritual growth of the young, and not with convincing them that they live in a benevolent universe. The old fairy tales have evolved over the millennia as a way to prepare the next generation for cataclysm and grief.
Despite the age of digital and high-tech wizardry, manga-anime hasnt changed much in its message, which continues to distill the ancient ethos of the Far East: a shared cultural matrix between Japan and East Asia. They teach that sacrifice for others is more important than individual happiness, that to grow in strength and wisdom one must find something more precious to protect and love than ones self, that there is an inherent beauty in sadness and spiritual growth to be had in suffering, and that honor and loyalty and duty sometimes far outweigh romantic love.
Now, as American children watch Naruto struggle to retain his sunny outlook so as not to turn, literally, into a destructive monster, it seems the Far East is not so far from the easternizing West. In a post-9/11 world in which waging wars in the name of peace has become the norm, and as the polar icecaps melt and the sea keeps rising, and ominous storms grow stronger -- if not at our shores then in our collective unconscious -- it may very well be that happily ever after narratives are no longer the appropriate medicine, and that the stories American children are gravitating toward are the alternative fairytales that can help them cope with the shifting tides.
Andrew Lam is author of "Perfume Dreams: Reflections on the Vietnamese Diaspora" and the upcoming "East Eats West: Writing in Two Hemispheres" due out in 2010
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Spijder on Dec 28, 2009 at 20:22:00 said:
I agree with the other comments. And there's alot more than Grimm's out there. Just from television classics - Tales From the Darkside, The Outer Limits, Twilight Zone, Night Gallery. Though I do feel obligated to defend Stephen King's talen for grabbing moment of pure horror and imbedding it on the reader's psyche forever. I grew up on his books keeping me up, I'm a thirty nine year old woman and am not ashamed to admit I still sleep with a nightlight, feel a chill instinctive dread when using the toilet and believe there is nothing so raw and gritty as the thought of that fact that a rabid animal could come out of nowhere again and again and again. He had his finger on the pulse of the power of adolescent fear, affirming to us that it can in the right situation become a living breathing entity. He took almost every situation imaginable, government experiments, epidemics, good dogs gone bad, clowns, gypsy curses and even laundry equipment. He did not deserve to have the entirety of his works ranked lower than one single tale as they were in this article however right it might be about any other point.
Kitsune on Dec 28, 2009 at 18:40:44 said:
How many kids read or have read to them the old stories Grimm. I know that as a kid, I was shocked when I was introduced to the real endings of the tales at the tender age of 10. From that point on, I was able to prepare myself, but even now my heart wishes that everything could be as wonderful as it was in the "fairytales".
This author definately did their homework... if nobody is told the old tales, instead of having them changed by disney, nobody will learn.
How many songs retelling the tradegy of Romeo & Juliet have been told in the last 5 years, but with a happy ending? I've asked a few teens at a local school, and they quite literally didn't know that the original tale ended badly.
The old tales need to be told, to remind people that life won't always go your way... no matter what.
Dynnys Derwydd on Dec 28, 2009 at 17:14:05 said:
Has this writer ever read the unabridged Grimms'? I think not as most of those tales didn't have happy endings. Most were appended to these tales by Disney and Hollywood. Too bad the author didn't do any real research for this story.-->


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grocery bill for health conscious consumers
We are a family of two, very health conscious, cook almost every meal from scratch and bring our own lunches (eat out 5-6 times a month). We eat almost exclusively organic and seafood. I would like to solicit some idea from fellow organic veggie eaters on how to pinch pennies in this inflationary environment.
We currently belong to 3 CSAs, Eating with the Seasons, Full Belly Farm and Frog Hollow (for fruit only). We like Eating with the Seasons because it offers choice, unlike conventional CSAs. With choice comes cost, every single item comes in a smaller quantity compared to Full Belly, which has some outstanding produce, but bunch carrots for a whole month could be overwhelming. So we always look at Full Belly's weekly delivery list first, and choose from EWS whatever FB doesn't deliver that particular week. Frog Hollow (Happy Child CSA) is the most expensive one, costing about $35 for 10lbs of fruit (avocado inclusive), we joined based on the raving reviews of their peaches on this board. So far, we don't find their fruit to be THAT extraordinary, perhaps because the peach season has not started yet. With 3 CSAs under the belt, we need very little supplement from the supermarket, except for olive oil, milk, condiments etc. at TJ's. When our subscription with Frog Hollow expires, we may find another fruit CSA with better value. Are there any other choices for fruit CSA besides Frog Hollow?
Our CSA costs come out to be around $85 a week, which I find to be as good as it gets because we eat enormous amount of veggie. Prior to joining the CSAs, our Whole Foods grocery bill was at least 50% higher. Now we never visit Whole Foods again. Our TJ cost is around $40 a week on ice cream, olive oil, milk, nuts, two buck chucks (for cooking, we don't drink) etc. Maybe there is some slack, but I feel we are doing ok.
We are murdered by our cost on seafood. We shop at Mitsuwa, which we found to carry the best quality seafood in South Bay, but at a steep price. Our seafood cost is around $65 a week, and they are not even all wild caught. I would love to know about quality fish mongers around South Bay that can cut my seafood cost. Are there seafood CSAs?
So just on food alone, without counting the bath tissue, washing powder etc., our grocery cost is already $800-850 a month, which I found to be on the higher end compared to grocery bills I saw on the internet. I would love to cut $100-150 a month without sacrificing much quality, is it doable? How?
I guess it depends on where you live, but for me, going to the farmer's market (Alemany in SF) weekly is *much* cheaper than getting a CSA box (or three, in your case)--eg I'm buying organic stonefruit for $1.50/lb and greens for $1/bunch. I buy a lot of bulk dry grains and legumes at Rainbow Grocery (also in SF). There's no way two people could eat 50+ lbs a week, etc., so I'd consider dropping the CSAs.
Seafood is hard; I'd probably look at frozen seafood as well, and bear in mind much seafood isn't truly sustainable. Farmed tilapia or catfish are pretty economical.
re: xanadude
Thanks for the feedback. I will definitely look into the seafood choices.
But I am a little embarrassed to admit that we DO finish almost all the veggies from 2 CSAs every week (maybe 50 lbs), sometimes in 6.5 days. We get two full shares from both CSAs. Since we have nothing to eat on the 7th day of the week, we have to eat out. I know that sounds completely ridiculous, but we seem to have unreasonably big stomachs, and we haven't been putting on much weight after so much food, perhaps because it's mostly veggie and fruit.
re: Riceball
I would be, as I'm sure others would, interested in your cooking suggestions/recipes for all the produce - you obviously love it and must have some great and easy ways of cooking and serving! This time of year we all need a kick start and new ways of thinking as the abundance comes!
re: OCEllen
Howdy, we've moved the stuff on cooking/recipes to the Home Cooking board. Please continue the discussion there, so that hounds everywhere can benefit. The link is here: http://www.chowhound.com/topics/522718
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re: Riceball
WE also do 3 CSAs, Frog Hollow, Two Small Farms and Marin Sun Farms. We go through 2 boxes of veggies from TSF in a week easily. I eat a ton of veggies! We are just a family of 4, and my husband often doesn't help eat the veggies because he doesn't get home until late.
Hold out for the stone fruit for Frog Hollow and then make your judgment. This is our 3rd season and to be honest I quip about quitting it every winter, but their Warren pears keep me captive. The winter produce isn't that great. Our farmer's market here is hit or miss on organic fruit, and I just don't have the time or transportation to make it to one that has a better organic selection, so the CSA works. I haven't found any other fruit CSA that does local organic fruit, especially one that ships from their own farm as Frog Hollow does in the stone fruit season.
re: daveena
Thanks for the suggestion, I will go check out this week.
Besides farmers markets in the South Bay, how about some of the mom and pop produce places like Milk Pail and such?
My work has CSA delivered for fruit and it's convenient but on the expensive side. I know I do better then that and I'd imagine if you scouted the farmers market and local mom and pops and kept tabs on what's seasonal and on sale, figured out a pattern, you could do better and have fewer duds. I guess the trick would be switching over.
p.s. a second on xanadude's recommendation on legumes...it really can stretch things very econmically.
Your food budget does sound....high.
I'd think half of that number would still be pretty indulgent for a lot of healthy families. Were you already spending that much with Whole Foods/TJ's?
It sounds to me like you could cut out one CSA and still have yourself covered, but it also sounds like it's your fish that's out of control. $240 a month on fish?! TJ's has some really decent flash frozen fish, as an alternative but if you're downing $60 worth a week it makes me think you're buying really high grade stuff, or having lobster dinners, or exotic fish, but either way, it's sounding like you're consuming more then is healthy anyway.
I think the best advice would be to stretch your food, and return to doing a bit more shopping at Whole Foods. The other option is to grow some stuff yourself if you have a big backyard.
Also, is your diet almost entirely carb free? Rice, and noodles have served some third world nations pretty well and help to stretch meals.
By the way, there is that Dr. Oz (or whoever originated it) theory that if you consumed a ridiculous amount of fruits and nuts you'll actually lose weight, reduce cholesterol and other benefits. I recall there was some cod liver oil or something involved though.
re: sugartoof
We have completely cut out WF since our CSA substitution. TJ's inventory is very reasonably priced and we are hooked on too many of their items so we can't cut that.
However, the seafood problem is, those flash-frozen fish tastes decisively different from the fresh fish served at Mitsuwa. If our tongues cannot tell the difference, I would be more than happy to go with TJ's stock. But since we live so close to the coast, I've always been wondering if we can find a cheap local fishing outlet that sells fresh fish from Monterey or Half Moon Bay.
Yes, our diet is mostly carb free. We do eat little bit of rice, noodles, bread etc. every day and that's why we need lots of veggie and fruit to fill the stomach.
Healthwise, we actually feel very good on the current diet. But we don't feel that good about the cost.
re: Riceball
I'm just wondering if your Whole Foods bill used to put you in that same $800 price range?
It just sounds to me like you need to take the same food, and approach it as if you were cooking for a family of 4 instead. I'd imagine that bulk of veges turns it into a juggling act of using the stuff before it spoils, but not to quickly so you don't have food for the weak. Anyway, that may be easier then finding cheaper farm direct sources that aren't going to compromise quality.
re: Riceball
You can catch fish in the Bay.
re: Robert Lauriston
Have you ever read the posted health warnings about eating fish from the Bay? It's scary stuff, mercury, PCB, selenium and other toxins are present. On occasion Bay-caught fish is probably okay but on regular basis it's seems unwise.
The advisory recommends that adults eat no more than two meals from the bay per month, pregnant women, nursing mothers, and children under 6 half that amount.
re: ML8000
As ML8000 says.
re: Riceball
There's not a whole lot of commercial fishing out of HMB anymore. If you drive there, you can (sometimes) but stuff off the docks or at the fishmarket; there's a phone number you can call to find out what's for sale on the docks that day.
Costco would be worth checking out for fresh farmed fish, especially for the quantities you're buying. 99 Ranch (asian market) is also worth a try.
Squid is also worth considering as a relatively cheap seafood protein source.
If you are up for a little food-slumming you might stop by Grocery Outlet. It would be more for canned goods and cleaning supplies. It is more of a treasure hunt.
However, they have item like Imagine organic broths for 99 cents, lots of organic boxed tomato sauce, tomatoes, vegetables, soups. I'm blanking on the name right now but I bought some excellent crushed tomatoes for 50 cents for a box that would normally sell for $2.
They also have organic cereals, maple syrup, Aidell's organic sausages (sometimes), occasionally Niman ranch products (never did see the Niman Ranch chipotle bacon that was reported).
It is a matter of looking. They also have some organic wines and lots of non organic wines ... currently there are Target 4 liter wine cubes for $3.99 ... at a buck a liter that beats 2 buck Chuck. They also sometimes have those natural cleaning products ... the name of which also escapes me.
re: rworange
I was finishing up project late last night and not focusing. I know you asked about veggies and seafood, but if you can save say $20 a week on staples, then that's almost your goal.
I do have some ideas though on veggies / fish that I'll address later.
I wasn't putting down Grocery Outlet either but it might seem food-slumming to someone who is shopping at Whole Foods or using Frog Hollow (btw I don't think they are all that or the best peaches out there ... but their Warren pears in the fall are magnificant).
OK, back to Grocery Outlet. The natural cleaning prodcuts they sell from time to time are the Method line. The great crushed tomatoes were Pacific brand. They sell many of the organic line you see at Whole Foods like Woodstock Farms, Amy's, etc.
When I'm in Whole Foods I have a smug self-satisfied inner smile knowing I'm paying 1/2 to 1/4 the price of the same items at GO.
I don't know what brand ice cream you buy. If it is Strauss you are out of luck, but they usually have Haagen Daz for $1.49 a pint and one sorbet of HD was 50 cents. They do carry various organic ice creams from time to time though. They had Breyers organic quarts for $2.49 for a while and some other brands. Some GO's have Judy's organic eggs ... $2.29 for 18.
There was an organic all-juice pomegranite juice line GO was selling for $1.99 that the supermarkets were selling for $5.99 ... I see no reason to throw away $4 for the exact same juice ... nice healthy blends too ... pomegranate blueberry and cherry.
They were selling Corte California Olive oil (an interesting story) for $7.99 for a big bottle. I have been really, really ... really happy with this one. However, olive oil there is more miss than hit.
Back to fish/veggies. I agree with others that a good farmers market can be a saving over CSA's, you get to choose what you want instead of the luck of the draw and if you go at the end of the day there are bargains ... especially if you are buying in bulk.
Are you opposed to freezing or canning your own?
You could take advantage of seasonal organic u-picks. You could make occasional trips up to Half Moon Bay and buy fish off the boats and freeze.
This time of year, for example, you can drive up the coast and make a stop at Swanton Berry farm on the way to HMB and do a upick of their organic strawberries. If you are not opposed to canning or freezing, you can make easy jam and freeze berries for use in smoothies or other recipes.
You don't mention dairy, so I'm not sure if you eat cheese, but in Pescadero there is Harley's goat farm which has wonderful cheeses. The little goats are right outside the door. They have some cheese products that last a while like jars of goat cheese in olive oil.
Speaking of dairy ... if you use it ... you might consider for cooking purposes organic dry powdered milk. It is difficult to tell the difference in something like a baked good, if you make those.
Mariquita Farms which once sold at Ferry Plaza has seasonal u-pick tomato weekends along with a few other veggies like peppers.Tomatoes are 50 cents a pound. They decided that the farmers market was too much a hassle and they are just now selling to restaurants like Chez Panisse. Here's their website with the list of restaurants the supply. Check for upcoming upicks
Here's a link to last year's u-pick tomato report with links to previous years
If you are interested in canning ... you could make tomato sauce or soups. You could make huge batches of casseroles and freeze them. That would also solve your problem of running out of food by the end of the week. You would have some reserves in the pantry or freezer.
Also, the suggestion of doing a little planting if you have a yard is a good one. The little walkway on the side of my house has lemon and orange trees. Citrus doesn't need much love because I do nothing to them and have unlimited fruit.
I don't find your fish budget hard to believe given that you eat a lot of it. In San Jose, you might check out L & F seafood which is a Portuguese market. Their big thing is drying fish ... about a eight varieties ... however they buy from local fishermen and they also have a fresh fish counter. Someone put it down on another food forum for being too 'ethinic', so you might keep in mind it isn't for everyone.
re: rworange
Mariquita also sells through a CSA (Two Small Farms).
re: Robert Lauriston
Unfortunately their site says they are already booked for this year, but will put people on a waiting list.
I didn't mention this because Mariquita only does this in SF, and the OP is in the South Bay so gas used driving up there would cancel any savings ... but maybe for someone else interested ... they have something called Mysterious Market Thursdays.
From the above link with more info
"What: Guerilla vegetable deliveries: Not a CSA, we have one of those. More like a taco truck-meets-the farmers market"
Basically they drop off boxes to SF restaurants like Greens, Incanto, Globe or whoever they choose that week. Send them an email to reserve and leave your cell phone number. They tell you where and it is a cash only transaction.
re: rworange
It's a lot of veggies -- you probably get about $40-50 value for your $25 as they use this as a way to sell some of the stuff they have lots and lots of. The variety is always good and often there are a few usual things (for example, lovage one time or agretti).
re: rworange
Thanks for the detailed reply again. We are not loyal WF fan, and by switching to CSAs from WF, we are already saving 50% on veggie cost. When my Frog Hollow CSA runs out, I will go to local farmer's market for fruit. Maybe I should hold out till their stone fruit season first (they don't come down to South Bay for farmer's market), but so far I find their fruit to be overpriced at $3.5 per lb. The Upicks is a great idea, we are on the waiting list of Two Small Farms CSA, so if we get on, we will drop one of the current CSAs.
Gardening is a great suggestion, I am trying to research on how to grow herbs in my backyard. Not a born green thumb, but hey, whatever can save $$$ is a good enough motivation.
We are not brand conscious, we just want to find the most reasonably priced healthy food, because frankly, food is much cheaper than medicine and hospitalization cost. My father spends easily over $250 on medicine a month even though he is covered by Medicare.
re: Riceball
Growing herbs is easy -- most herbs are essentially weeds. They're easy to grow in containers, too. In fact, some herbs (like mint) are best grown in containers because they can be invasive. Tomatoes and squash are also easy to grow. At the price of organic zucchini these days, you really can't afford not to grow it.
One other suggestion: check the free listings on craigslist and freecycle for people who are giving away excess produce or cuttings from their trees or gardens.
re: rworange
Thanks for the suggestion on Grocery Outlet, I just found one that is within 5 miles radius of my home. I will go check it out today.
re: Riceball
Great. Always check the expiration date, but there are lots of reasons why something is marked down, sometimes there is an overstock or a product is being discontinued, etc, etc.
There's usually a monthly Grocery Outlet thread on the board with people reporting their finds and whether they are good or not. Here's the May thread
A few stores still have the nice smoked Alaskan wild salmon that is boxed in a pouch. It is found, if any, near the canned fish. It is $4.99 for 8oz ... selling for $15.99 elsewhere. It is not is the same class as something like Captn Mike's Holey Smoke ... however it is superior to any of TJ's smoked salmon or anything else I've found in an average market.
And keep in mind the stock is different weekly. There are some reoccuring items, but never count on them.
re: Robert Lauriston
In addition to 99 Ranch, you also have Marina and Tin Tin close to where you are shopping. I have had good luck at Tin Tin in particular.
Riceball, I didn't see a mention of shopping at farmers' markets--are you poorly located to do that? When produce items are at their peak season, or close to closing time of the markets, prices lower noticeably.
Eating wild seafood, unless living in or near to a fishing community, in the larger context of diminishing stocks, environment degradation, and fuel costs, to my perspective is a luxury and I usually limit eating it to locally caught sustainable species one time a week. Farmed fish of course has to be considered according to the specific variety and species--a lot of salmon and shrimp farming is environmentally unsound. Dried legumes and soybeans in various preparations (dou fu, tempeh) are a principal protein source in some of the poorest parts of the world--south asian and middle eastern preparations for various pulses and chick peas have many tasty variations.
re: sugartoof
Agree--soy is suboptimal.
Ohhh the cost of eating/living healthy. Kinda sucks how much you spend when you pick healthy choices at the grocery store.
For ex: Last night i picked up 1lb asparagus, broccoli, diet 7up, and 4 chicken breasts and my bill was basically $30. Now, most would say thats enough for 3 meals, but when you eat 6 healthy meals a day, then it really adds up.
MY typical grocery items:
low fat cottage cheese
chicken breast
natural peanut butter
brown rice
diet soda
LEan beef or lean ground beef
low sodium turkey breast
IT really does add up to a lot.
re: Robert Hobbs
Sounds like a tab from Safeway, maybe? It's certainly hard to bargain shop for groceries, but it can be done. It's just a full time job.
(not so sure diet soda is a good idea for the health conscious though. might want to try one of the sugar cane, pure sugar drinks like hansens, etc.)
re: Robert Hobbs
A few points from an obsessive healthy eater
-low fat xxx is sometimes imitation xxx. The American law has it that the manufacturer doesn't need to put the word imitation in front of the food which is being imitated. What are the components of imitation xxx? Well, the usual suspects of industrially produced chemical compounds.
It's actually ok to eat full-fat dairy, as long as it is natural and organic, and raised without rBGT. Americans grow fat not because of fat, but because of sugar. Our body converts extra sugar into fat for storage. The Europeans are not obese not because they don't eat fat (in fact they almost always go for full-fat dairy), but because they eat low-sugar diet. Almost everything on their supermarket aisle has a low-sugar alternative.
- diet soda is NOT healthy. Both aspartame (Nutrasweet) and its predecessors are carcinogenic. There are also many long-term side effects for consuming aspartame.
It is ok to consume REAL cane sugar. The problem of American diet is, we have no or very little cane sugar, but high fructose corn syrup as substitute! Everything in this country is loaded with high fructose corn syrup which doesn't make you feel full. If you like soda, get something with real cane sugar in it without any corn syrup, and pour in half half seltzer water, hence reducing the calorie by half. I often make my soda by pouring juice and seltzer or soda water together.
- try to stay away from ground any meat. What kind of meat do you think goes into ground meat? Internal organs, useless ends, usually parts with the highest cholesterol content. Buy good meat and ground it yourself if recipe calls for it.
re: Riceball
Riceball, I applaud you for taking care of your health. Most people don't give a crap. However, there are a couple of points I'd like to mention.
Agree that low fat can sometimes mean imitation xxx, but not always the case. Some things are naturally low-fat. And just because something is low-fat doesn't necessarily mean it's good for you, like those sugary "low-fat" cereals.
The full-fat natural, organic dairy thing --I think it really depends on the person. There are those who say it's better to have full-fat milk than low-fat milk (eg. Weston Price folks). My personal belief is that if you can handle it, go for the fat. It certainly tastes better. However, I do feel that some people really can benefit from having a lower-fat diet. But I agree with you that the quality of the dairy is important. And, yes, there are lots of people who eat high-fat foods but are not obese. There is more to the European paradox than just their lower sugar diet. They tend to eat smaller portions and move a bit more compared to Americans.
Diet soda/real cane sugar -- I'm not a fan of aspartame at all. I like your idea of mixing in soda/fruit juices with soda water. But I think overconsumption of real soda contributes to problems as well. And for people who have issues like diabetes, they are probably better off drinking diet soda than having soda with cane sugar, though it's probably better not to drink either. And while I prefer to have cane sugar over to Nutra Sweet, I'm not sure if I would say it's OK. Depends on how much you have. My issue with the whole cane sugar soda thing is that I'm amazed how many people think this stuff is healthy so they drink more of it. These cane sodas are being marketed as being healthier than the HFCS ones. I kind of think that the health difference is negligible really. I think the problem of HFCS is that it's cheaper so that people end up eating more of it. Portion control is really key with this health thing. You can eat an entire homemade cake made with organic, cage-free eggs, real cane sugar, grass-fed organic milk and organic whole-wheat flour and have it be pretty unhealthy.
And about the ground meat thing, I do agree with you that it's best to grind your own meat. But not everybody has the luxury of a meat grinder. You could be a zealous person like my mom was, purchasing her own meat, and "grinding" it using knives. But a lot of people probably don't want to bother with that. You should be able to find high quality ground meat (and I'm not talking about Whole Foods -- I've found bone twice in my grass-fed ground beef there).
re: Miss Needle
As far as I can tell, the problem with sodas is that (mostly unconsciously) people don't count them as part of their food intake. Americans have largely replaced water (which has no calories) with something that has a significant amount of calories and are consuming it along with whatever else they would normally eat. The same is true for fancy coffee and tea drinks -- the calorie-less morning coffee morphs into a drink with enough calories to qualify as breakfast on its own, and yet people don't factor that in with the rest of what they eat. Then they say "I'm not eating any more than I used to, why am I gaining weight?" Soda used to be a treat that came in a small bottle -- now it comes in 20-ounce bottles or even a 40-ounce Big Gulp and is considered the standard accompaniment to many meals. No wonder Americans have gained weight. Drink water. It's better for you in all kinds of ways.
re: Ruth Lafler
Another soda issue--some of us do not like the "fuzzy teeth" feeling from sugared soda, even if it is natural. I drink a couple of sodas a week, diet. I drink it for the carbonation and I especially like it after a long run in warm weather (seems to quench my thirst better than just plain water, though I drink a water/Recharge mixture during the run).
I do agree that a daily 6-pack of diet coke is probably not a good thing! And Ruth, you raise some excellent points! Sodas used to come in those little 6- or 8-ounce bottles. And it was a treat, not a standard beverage.
re: Ruth Lafler
True. A 40 oz soda can definitely replace one meal as well as one of those Starbucky type drinks. And you don't get much nutrition from them as well. No wonder a lot of Americans are malnourished.
And in Europe I see soda in 8 oz bottles.
re: Miss Needle
Again it comes down to moderation, but in the case of Diet vs. Non-diet sodas, there are new studies which are linking problems from the diet product.
You inherit a slew of side effects we're only just now being informed of. I'd rather have a lifetime of wear and tear from sugar use, then a lifetime of effects from sugar substitute in my system. I know a number of people who got hooked on diet Coke and actually experienced various bowel disorders, and gained weight as a result. There's something going on beyond abuse and operator error.
re: sugartoof
I'd also rather deal with too much sugar than with the whole artificial sweetener thing. Besides, artificial sweeteners don't taste that good.
I do have a problem with marketing cane sugar sodas as being healthier. Apparently, people don't see "healthier" and see "healthy." Kind of like one of my exs who said, "These falafels are so healthy that I should eat two of them so I get more health benefits." btw, this guy is an MD.
re: Miss Needle
Although I try not to buy anything that has HFCS (exception-- those Hagen Dazs rich "light" line of ice cream flavors. Some of the flavors have HFCS) and jokingly call it "evil", I think the truth is that sugar is sugar, and our body basically processes it the same way. I think I read this in McGee's On Food and Cooking, but I'm not sure.
Either way, the key is moderation, as Ruth says, and being reasonable about it, as you say.
I've never understood the 40 ounce soda thing. I haven't had soda in almost 20 years, but even when I used to drink it, I remembered that I'd feel so bloated after drinking it, that I couldn't even finish a 12 oz. can, and then if I had one after school, I didn't have room for dinner (which is why I eventually stopped drinking it).
The one pet peeve I have about WF is that they market things like "evaporated cane juice" as much healthier than say, refined sugar. (They also sell "vegan" sugar, but such annoying labels are fodder for a separate rant in a separate thread.) Ok, I'll give them that it is less processed, so it is marginally better, and both are better than artificial sweeteners, but in terms of how the body processes it, it's all the same.
As for grocery bills, (to reply to the original thread) I think I'm on the high end, but I also hardly spend on much else and rarely eat out, so I don't worry about it too much. I suppose I could cut out the junk and the processed stuff and that could cut costs a bit. I could also get better about buying and not wasting. . . but for ex. my Feb. food bill (1-person household) was roughly $170, while my March bill was $270. I don't do meat, and rarely do seafood (maybe a few times a month?), so that might keep my costs down, but I don't know, since I don't know what 1 person's typical monthly food bill runs to. I think I spend about $20-$30 at the FM per week, and then spend $20-$40 at various grocery stores on non-produce items. It looks like in 2007, it averaged $230ish per month.
I think in the 80s and 90s, my mom spent $70 a week to feed 5 of us, so she is much better at economizing, b/c she essentially spent on 5 what I spend on 1, but then again, bread didn't cost almost $5 a loaf, and eggs were always less than 99 cents for a dozen, whereas I pay $1.75 for half a dozen. She also didn't have a aged gouda cheese addiction, and bought that green carton of parmesan cheese instead of the real deal, which can cost $16/#, but I'm not willing to skimp on. . .. So my mom might be appalled at my food bill, but then I look at countries where people have to spend 40-50 percent of their income on food. I'm nowhere near that mark. I guess I should be thankful.
So the original poster spends about $400/person per month on food. RWOrange can live in $3/day, which is about $90/month. I guess I'm somewhere in the middle, but probably still on the high side, and looking at the "Living on $3 a day" thread, could probably be more resourceful if I tried. . .
re: anzu
I got the same peeve about WF as you do. Evaporated cane juice may be marginally better for you, but it's still sugar. Unless one has a certain type of lifestyle where they're incredibly active, sugar needs to be consumed in moderation. And the whole organic chocolate thing -- some people actually think they're being healthy by eating it because it's organic. Personally, I've had organic chocolate but am not crazy about the taste.
re: anzu
Actually, "vegan sugar" isn't quite as ridiculous as it sounds. While sugar itself is vegan, some sugar refining processes use charcoal made from animal bones, which for some people who are strictly vegan make the sugar non-vegan. While I personally think it's silly, "vegan sugar" is not just a labelling gimmick the way, for example, "cholesterol free" sugar would be.
re: Ruth Lafler
Isn't that the processing use to whiten the sugars? I think you can also avoid that with "brownulated" sugar, right? The problem there is you naturally have to use more of it to match the sweetness of white sugar.
re: Ruth Lafler
agree that the vegan distinction on sugar is important to many people, which makes it important for anyone who may cook for them. for that reason i don't think it's stupid at all. "vegan sugar" is useful in the same way as "vegetarian cheese" or "kosher chicken."-- not important distinctions to many folks, but very much so for others.
re: Ruth Lafler
Regarding chocolate, one of the foods with richest antioxidant, one should always try to buy undutched cocoa, which is far more important than buying organic. Dutching is a process of adding alkali to cocoa to do away with the bitter after taste, but it also sheds over 90% of the antioxidant.
Sharffen Berger is one of very few companies that carry undutched cocoa. Highly recommended.
re: Miss Needle
I agree with most of what you said.
However, I think once we return to the "old" food that our ancestors have been eating throughout tens of thousands of years, moderation is really not required, because our body knows how to react.
The biggest problem of high fructose corn syrup is, it was only popularized as a sugar substitute 30 odd years ago. Our body doesn't know this stuff. As a result, you don't feel full, and you don't feel sweet enough. Our body through centuries of evolution has never encountered something like corn syrup and doesn't send off "I'm full" signal to our brain, hence the amazing percentage of obese Americans in this country.
I didn't grow up in the US. When I first came here, two things about food were shocking to me. Dessert tasted (and still does for me) sooooo damn sweet, I could never finish a typical American cake or cookie. When we make our own cookies at home, we have to cut the sugar to 1/3 of the recipe. On top of this, food portion was HUGE. The second one was easier to get over, somehow I found out, if I eat enough of those food loaded with corn syrup, I just didn't feel full so easily!
I occasionally use butter, never margarine, for cooking or bread spread. I don't mind high-fat things, as long as they are "old" food, because I quickly feel full and stop. Although I have never bought any low-fat gimmies, because of my veggie-centered diet, my bad cholesterol level remains very low while my good cholesterol level is very high due to the our daily fish intake.
I think it is actually quite easy to eat healthy. Just eat the menu that our ancestors have taste-tested for us for many generations. It's the highly industrialized food production and modification process in this country that bothers me.
It is also quite an irony that I have to pay more to eat like my parents did in their home country. Something is awfully wrong about the food industry in this country.
re: Riceball
Your parents (or ancestors) back in the home country probably ate a lot more rice than you say you do ("our diet is mostly carb free. We do eat little bit of rice, noodles, bread etc. every day and that's why we need lots of veggie and fruit to fill the stomach"). Plus they mostly grew or foraged for their own veggies.
There's no way people historically ate as much fresh seafood as you do -- before refrigeration most people didn't have access to it (which is why in most cultures seafood is "restaurant" food) and even if they did, they probably only ate a couple of ounces of fish with some rice and veggies, not what we've come to think of as a "serving."
re: Ruth Lafler
Unless she comes from a family of fishermen or dock workers.
If you're going for accuracy, it's probably the meat free diet which many of our ancestors would take issue with. Even that depends on the region your family came from. I think the point was to eat as natural and pesticide free as is possible, and to avoid the many modern innovations in food distribution that are probably to blame for our bloat. Sadly, everyone I've known who tried such a thing for long periods of time ended up having to change their diet at a doctors order.
re: Ruth Lafler
Our ancestors actually probably ate a lot more calories than we did, but they did more physical exercise to burn it off.
re: Riceball
"- try to stay away from ground any meat. What kind of meat do you think goes into ground meat? Internal organs, useless ends, usually parts with the highest cholesterol content. Buy good meat and ground it yourself if recipe calls for it."
Where do you want them to go? Are organ's 'lower quality' meat? What's wrong with dietary cholesterol? BTW, ground beef can--at least in the US--legally only contain skeletal muscle (not organs and such). There's plenty of not-very-tender skeletal muscle on a cow, especially when you include trim.
re: xanadude
Yeah, I think the organs, etc. generally go in meats like hot dogs. There may be a stray organ here and there when meat gets ground but not enough where I'd be worried about it. And, besides, I eat organ meats so it wouldn't really bother me too much if there was organ meat in it.
But I do agree with riceball that it's always best to grind it yourself if you can.
Not to ruin anyone's fun, but a few points
- the op eats lots of seafood/produce and somehow ground beef is mentioned
- the op didn't ask how to eat healthy, but how to eat less expensivly defined by his/her diet
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Can anyone tell me whether TOEFL or IELTS is more widely accepted?
Go for IELTS, as the preference to this exam is increasing now a days!!! if you are really good at English i promise you can prepare yourself for the exam in a week........i did this and scored 7/9 which is a valuable score.
TOEFL is completely being replaced by IELTS...so its better you give IELTS because at the last moment if you are asked to submit your IELTS score you need to take the test then....
I got the following information from the IELTS and TOEFL official websites:
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- The TOEFL test is recognized by more than 8,500 colleges, universities and agencies in more than 130 countries
Whether you should take IELTS or TOEFL really depends on the reason you need to take an English language test.
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The Committee received a briefing from the following DFP officials: Stephen Peover, Permanent Secretary and Colm Doran, Head of Business Planning and Corporate Governance, Corporate Services Group.
Mr Ross Hussey declared an interest as a member of Omagh District Council.
Agreed: to write to DFP requesting further information on ratepayer debt, including with regard to 'write-offs', previous legal cases and vacant properties, in advance of an evidence session with Land and Property Services (LPS) on this subject. The Committee also requested that the Department reviews the Business Plan targets to ensure they are sufficiently challenging, whilst achievable, going forward.
Mr William Humphrey left the meeting at 11.00amMr William Humphrey joined the meeting at 11.03am
Members took evidence from the following DFP officials: Alan Bronte, Commissioner of Valuation, LPS and Trevor Steenson, Chief Survey officer, LPS. The evidence session was recorded by Hansard.
Agreed: that Committee staff will draft terms of reference for a possible Committee inquiry into the use of Geographic Information.
Mr Dominic Bradley left the meeting at 11.35am
The Committee received a briefing from the following DFP officials: Michael Brennan, Head of Central Expenditure Division, Central Finance Group (CFG); Peter Jakobsen, Principal Economist, Central Expenditure Division, CFG and Brigitte Worth, Acting Finance Director, Finance Division, Corporate Services Group. The evidence session was recorded by Hansard.
Mr David Hilditch left the meeting at 11.44amMr Ross Hussey left the meeting at 11.47amMr Ross Hussey joined the meeting at 11.48am
Members received a briefing from the following DFP officials: Oswyn Paulin, Departmental Solicitor, Departmental Solicitors Office (DSO) and Laura McPolin, Departmental Solicitor, DSO.
Agreed: to request an explanation from the Department for the late arrival of the briefing paper. The Committee agreed to note the contents of the paper and to consider the matter further as the Department progresses work in this area.
Mr Paul Maskey left the meeting at 12.11pmMr William Humphrey left the meeting 12.16pmMs Judith Cochrane joined the meeting at 12.25pm
Members received a briefing from the following DFP officials: Oswyn Paulin, Departmental Solicitor, DSO and Laura McPolin, Departmental Solicitor, DSO.
Agreed: to advise DSO that it is content with the draft guidelines and to note that a public consultation exercise will commence in the near future.
The Committee considered one proposal for subordinate legislation:
• SL1 – The Official Statistics Order (NI) 2011
Agreed: the Committee has considered DFP's proposal for subordinate legislation under the The Official Statistics Order (NI) 2011, and has no objection to the policy implications of the proposed legislation at this stage
Members noted the following items of correspondence:
Agreed: to note the contents of the paper and to agree a position at a later date and in light of the evaluation outcome.
Agreed: to write to the Minister requesting that he proactively works with Executive colleagues to ensure that the case for devolving corporation tax powers does not lose momentum. In particular, that he encourages the joint ministerial working group to set an early date for its first meeting and to publish a programme of work, including a firm timetable for completion. It was also agreed to seek an undertaking that DFP will engage fully with the Committee throughout the process, including providing regular reports on progress.
Agreed: that a secretariat paper is prepared, setting out the key issues to be addressed arising from the evidence received to date, for consideration at the next meeting.
Agreed: to forward DFP's response to the other statutory committees for information.
The Committee also noted the following routine correspondence, which had been emailed to members prior to the meeting:
Mr Ross Hussey left the meeting at 12.42pm
Members considered a draft of the Committee work programme.
Large Retail Levy
The Committee considered a secretariat paper outlining options on how to schedule evidence sessions on the Large Retail Levy and Small Business Rate Relief Scheme.
Agreed: to gather the evidence on the Large Retail Levy and Small Business Rate Relief Scheme on the basis of themed panels, each comprising up to four witnesses. The first panel will provide evidence on 9 November 2011 following a DFP briefing on the outcome of the related public consultation.
Meeting of 30 November
Agreed: that the meeting scheduled for 30 November will be moved to 29 November, given the possibility of industrial action across the public sector on 30 November.
Agreed: that the work programme is amended to reflect decisions made today, and the revised programme is published on the Assembly website.
The next meeting will be held on Wednesday 9 November at 10.00am in Room 30, Parliament Buildings.
The Chairperson adjourned the meeting at 12.54am.
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With early voting less than three weeks away, one of the leading candidates in the 3rd Congressional District race will not commit to debating his opponents.
Republican Chuck Fleischmann's consultant, Chip Saltsman, would not directly answer whether Fleischmann would debate other candidates.
"We're doing several forums and joint-appearances from here until the election," Saltsman said. "We're running our campaign and talking about the issues with voters every day."
Fleischman would not discuss the issue at his campaign headquarters on Monday. He said he'd been in Washington, D.C., and left without answering a reporter's questions. His spokesman, Jordan Powell, said campaign officials have not decided whether Fleischmann will debate.
The Tea Party of Bradley County will conduct a debate tonight, but Fleischmann will not attend.
Glyndora Condon, a member of the Tea Party of Bradley County, said the Cleveland, Tenn., citizens group offered on four occasions for Fleischmann to appear with other candidates, but he did not respond to the offer.
"It doesn't sit well with us that we invited him four different times and he wouldn't come to any of our events," she said. "If someone says they are going to Congress to reflect our wants and needs and yet they cannot sit down and talk with us before they are even elected, how can we expect them to respond to what we want after they are elected?"
The debate, which begins at 6:30 p.m. at the Elks Club of Cleveland, will include Democratic nominee and attorney John Wolfe; independent candidate Savas Kyriakidis, a Chattanoogan who is a U.S. Army Reserves major and attorney; and Mark DeVol, an independent candidate and commercial builder from Oak Ridge.
Fleischmann and Wolfe are scheduled to appear together before the Cleveland Associated Industries at a luncheon Thursday at the Cleveland/Bradley County Chamber of Commerce. Lisa Pickel of the Cleveland Chamber said the event "is not a debate" but is a chance for the party nominees to talk briefly with Cleveland business leaders.
The Downtown Council of the Chattanooga Chamber of Commerce scrapped its plans for an Oct. 7 all-candidate forum when Fleischmann said he was unable to appear on that date.
Wolfe said Fleischmann will not debate because he does not want to defend his "extreme positions."
Kyriakidis said Fleischmann is "playing his cards right."
"This is his race to lose, provided he doesn't step on a land mine," he said. "It seems to me the Republican party is banking on the fact [that] the independents will not have enough money to reach the voters."
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--June, 2009
Posthumous Popularity is Bittersweet for TAXI Member's Widow
Former TAXI member Chris Tallman, who played under the stage name Matthew Chase, had a passion for two things in life: music and extreme adventure. Read the full story
--March 8, 2009
After husband's death, wife keeps music alive
Sarah Tallman has accepted the fact that her husband is dead. But she will never feel the same way about his music. Read the full story
--November 25, 2008
A love song to live on
A year ago, Sarah Tallman was a bride. Today, she is a widow. Facing a future far different from her plans, she finds herself guided by her late husband's legacy: 'Believe.' Read the full story
--November 11, 2008
Musician killed in tragic accident receives national music award
Widow seeks to continue legacy with posthumous CD, song rights as one-year wedding anniversary approaches. Read the full story
--October 23, 2008
Matthew Chase, just won the coveted "Lyrics of the Year" for his song "Believe," in the 2008 Indie Singers Songwriter Association (ISSA) Song Contest.
-- October 22, 2009
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Three Westbury runners won awards on Sunday, Nov. 17 in the fifth annual Blue Ribbon Run for Prostate Cancer, a 5 kilometer road race that started and finished at Syosset-Woodbury Community Park. Leading the way for the strong Westbury contingent was 10-year-old Johnny Schmuck, who earned the second place award in the 14 and under age group with a time of 22 minutes, 28 seconds. Johnny's mom Susan Schmuck took home first place in the Athena 140-159 Weight Division with a time of 25:55. 42-year-old Jenney Tesoriero was the 2nd finisher in the women's 40-44 age group, crossing the finish line in 23:44.
The race was held by the Town of Oyster Bayand and raised money to help in the fight against prostate cancer. Free prostate cancer screenings were offered on-site, as well as informative urology and men's health exhibits, refreshments and prizes for participants.
Thursday, 06 March 2014 00:00
Westbury High School students are teaching younger children from Park Avenue Elementary School valuable life lessons about money and business skills through the High School Heroes program.
In this program, high school students that are taking Renate Johnson's Junior Achievement class will go into first grade classrooms to teach 45-minute lessons.
"It is a program that gives high school and younger students confidence and teaches them about business and financial literacy," said Johnson.
Saturday, 08 March 2014 00:00
The Westbury Historical Society will host Dr. Natalie Naylor, professor emerita at Hofstra University and author of Women in Long Island's Past: Eminent Ladies and Everyday Lives at their next meeting on March 9.
Naylor's presentation will focus on the place of women in Long Island's history, including several prominent women from Westbury's past.
Thursday, 20 February 2014 00:00
Albertson resident and Kellenberg sophomore Gabby Schreib qualified for the Millrose Games in New York City. Schreib qualified as a member of the Sprint Medley Relay along with Danielle Correia, Bridget McNierney, and Jazmine Fray.
The Kellenberg relay's close second place finish in January's Millrose Trials has moved them closer to defending the title they won in the same relay at last year's Millrose Games. Schreib and her teammates time is currently second in the United States for girls track and field performances.
Thursday, 20 February 2014 00:00
Congratulations to Westbury athletes Michael Esposito, Eileen Harris, Brett Harris, and Michael Going, each of whom won awards in Race # 1 of the Jonas Chiropractic Run Nassau Series co-hosted by Nassau County and the Greater Long Island Running Club.
Michael Esposito, age 15, took home the second place award in the 15-19 age group with a time of 23 minutes, 6 seconds. Eileen Harris, age 42, earned the first place award in the women's 40-44 age group. She completed the race with her 45 year old husband, Brett Harris, who was the third place award winner in the men's 45-49 age group. Michael Going, age 41, scored third place honors in the 40-44 age group with a time of 20 minutes, 51 seconds.
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text: HISTORY OF FLIGHTOn March 30, 2000, about 1202 hours Pacific Standard Time, a Rockwell International 114, N516CA, collided with a telephone pole during the initial climb after takeoff from the Hanford Municipal Airport, Hanford, California. The private pilot and his three passengers sustained fatal injuries. Fire destroyed the airplane, which was owned and operated by the pilot. The flight was conducted under 14 CFR Part 91. Visual meteorological conditions prevailed for the local area personal flight. A flight plan was not filed. The airplane had departed from the Hanford airport, on runway 32, moments before the crash.According to the airport manager, he saw the airplane a little before noon in the run-up area. He said he watched the airplane go out onto the lower end of the runway, begin its takeoff, and move down the runway. When the airplane reached 1/2 the length of the runway, he noticed that the nose wheel of the airplane had not yet lifted off the surface. He stated that this was unusual because normally, by this distance, the airplane would have lifted and started to become airborne. As the airplane continued, he began to say "abort, abort," and did not feel the airplane had sufficient ground speed to make a successful takeoff. According to the manager, it appeared the pilot had "jerked" or "horsed" the airplane into the air at the end of the runway. He stated that, even as it reached the end of the runway, he did not feel the airplane had sufficient ground speed to takeoff. He also stated he did not hear anything unusual with the airplane during its takeoff roll. The airport manager said that he observed the airplane gradually gain a small amount of altitude as it crossed a freeway, and then he noticed that the right wing began to point towards the ground. He observed the airplane collide with an object that he believed to be power lines. According to the Hanford Police Department report, the airplane hit a utility pole, then crashed onto East Lacey Boulevard and skidded about 400 feet; coming to rest in front of Kings County Bowling Alley.PERSONNEL INFORMATIONThe pilot was issued a private pilot certificate with airplane single engine land rating on October 15, 1966. His application for the private pilot certificate indicated he had 31 total flight hours in a Cessna 150 airplane, with approximately 23 solo flight hours. He received an instrument airplane rating on August 15, 1984. His application for the instrument rating reflected 264 total flight hours.Two pilot logs were obtained. The first one was unnumbered and contained entries beginning July 27, 1986, and ending January 15, 1998. The second pilot log was numbered three and contained entries beginning January 15, 1999, and ending March 22, 2000. The first pilot log indicated that 495.5 flight hours had been brought forward. The total flight hours reflected in both pilot logs were 1,594.6. All of the flight hours listed in both pilot logs, except for 11.3 hours, were in the accident airplane. There was an entry in the endorsements section of the second pilot log dated May 22, 1998, that indicated a flight review was completed on that date. The pilot was issued a third-class medical certificate on January 1, 1998. In his application for the certificate, the pilot indicated he had 2,300 total flight hours, with 50 hours in the previous 6 months. His date of birth indicated he was 54 years of age. The pilot's weight listed on the certificate was 205 pounds.AIRCRAFT INFORMATIONThe airplane was manufactured in 1976 as a Rockwell International 114, serial number 14076. It was a four-place, single engine land plane powered by a Lycoming IO-540-T4A5D engine, and equipped with a Hartzell two bladed constant speed propeller. The airplane was issued a Standard Airworthiness Certificate in the Normal category on July 9, 1976. The owner/pilot purchased the airplane on April 17, 1990.According to aircraft logs and records (excerpts attached) an annual inspection of the airplane was conducted on February 17, 2000. The aircraft log indicated that the airplane had 2,166.5 fight hours at the time of that inspection. The engine log indicated that the installed engine, serial number L-14682-48A, was overhauled on January 13, 1998, at a total time of 1,973.0 hours. The engine log indicated that the engine had 2,166.5 total hours, with 193.5 hours since major overhaul on February 17, 2000, the date of its last inspection. The propeller was a Hartzell HC-C2YR-1BF, serial number CH17315. According to the propeller log, the propeller was last inspected on February 17, 2000.An annual inspection checklist for the airplane, dated February 7, 2000, was provided by the maintenance facility at the Hanford Municipal Airport. The checklist indicated that the maintenance action was closed on February 17, 2000. No uncorrected discrepancies were noted on the checklist.The weight and balance of the airplane at the time of the accident takeoff was calculated using the following information: the empty weight and empty weight center of gravity was obtained from the last recorded Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) Form 337 dated March 20, 1992. Occupant locations and weights were obtained from the Hanford Police Department report. According to fueling records from the Hanford Flight Center, the airplane had been fueled on March 23, 2000, with 56.4 gallons of 100LL fuel. The last flight recorded in the pilot's log was dated March 22, 2000. At the accident site, the fuel selector was in the "BOTH" position and the left wing fuel tank was observed to be nearly full. WEIGHT ARM MOMENT Empty Weight 1960.82 101.61 199239 Fuel 70 gallons 420.00 112.20 47124 Front seats 415.00 99.00 41085 Rear seats 455.00 136.00 61880Total 3250.82 349328 Center of Gravity 107.5The limitations section of the Pilot's Operating Handbook (POH) indicated that the maximum gross takeoff weight of the airplane was 3,140 pounds, and the center of gravity limits at that weight are 106.91 to 110.50 inches aft of datum.Using a maximum weight of 3,140 pounds, sea level pressure, and 20 degrees centigrade temperature, the Normal Takeoff Distance (10 degree flaps) chart in the POH indicated that the airplane would require 2,100 feet to takeoff and climb to a 50-foot height.METEOROLOGICAL INFORMATIONThe 1200 weather observation from the Automatic Surface Observing System (ASOS) at the Hanford airport on the day of the accident was: wind 340 degrees at 6 knots; visibility 8 statue miles; cloud coverage clear; temperature/dew point 21/07 degrees Celsius; and the altimeter setting was 30.09 inHg.The 1205 weather observation from the ASOS on the day of the accident was: wind variable at 4 knots; visibility 9 statute miles; cloud coverage was clear; temperature/dew point was 21/07 degrees Celsius; and the altimeter setting was 30.09 inHg.AIRPORT INFORMATIONHanford Municipal Airport has a single asphalt runway designated runway 14-32. The runway is 3,962 feet long and 75 feet wide.WRECKAGE AND IMPACT INFORMATIONAccording to the Hanford Police Department report, the airplane collided with a utility pole then crashed onto a street. The airplane came to rest in the 1000 block of Lacey Boulevard. The accident site was about 1 mile northwest of the Hanford Municipal Airport, and to the right of the runway 32 extended centerline.A utility pole was damaged and exhibited blue paint transfer that approximated the color of paint on the wing leading edge of the airplane. A section of the right wing outer panel was found about 60 feet northwest of the damaged pole. The right wing section exhibited a chordwise, concave indentation in the leading edge that approximated the diameter of the utility pole. There were brown smears in the radius of the indentation in the right wing similar to the utility pole coloration.White scrape marks were found on the street, about 100 feet east of the utility pole, that was similar to the white paint of the airplane. Blackened marks, consistent with soot, were found on the street about 15 feet east of the white scrape marks. Just east of the blackened streaks, slashes were found in the pavement that approximated the shape of the propeller blades cambered side. The top of the engine cowl and the left main wheel and were found along the street leading to the main wreckage. The wheel brake disc did not exhibit evidence of overheating, bluing, or discoloration. The airplane came to rest about 435 feet east of the first damaged utility pole. It was upright with the nose of the airplane heading 200 degrees magnetic. There was extensive fire damage to the airplane.Both propeller blades remained attached to the hub and exhibited an "S" curved shape, span wise torsional twisting, tightly curled tips, chordwise scrapes, and leading edge abrasions. The spinner was essentially undamaged.The firewall and engine accessory section were burned. The instrument panel, fuselage, and the attached portion of the right wing were nearly consumed by fire. The inboard section of the left wing was nearly consumed by fire, while the outboard section exhibited blackening and sooting. Blue colored liquid remained in the left wing fuel tank. The vertical stabilizer and rudder were burned at the stabilizer leading edge and the top of the rudder and the stabilizer. The right horizontal stabilizer and elevator were sooted. Arcing was observed on the left elevator at the trim tab leading edge. The separated outboard section of the right wing did not display any burning, sooting, or trailing patterns of soot. Sooting and charring of the main wreckage was observed in broad patterns that did not follow aerodynamic flow. The landing gear was found in the extended position and the flap jackscrew was found in a position that corresponded to 10 degrees of flap extension. There was continuity of the flight controls from the cockpit area to the flight control surfaces. The fuel selector was found in the "Both" position.There was extensive fire damage to the instrument panel. The fuel flow gage indicated a fuel flow of 12 gallons per hour. The throttle control on the fuel injector servo was found at a fully open position; the mixture control was at a mid point setting; and the propeller control was found at a high rpm setting on the propeller governor. Recovery personnel moved the wreckage to a salvage and storage facility in Pleasant Grove, California, where the engine was examined. After removal of the propeller, the crankshaft was rotated revealing engine continuity through all cylinders with "thumb" compression at each cylinder. The single drive dual magneto was fire damaged, as was the wiring harness. The fuel servo inlet screen was clean. No fuel was found in the engine fuel system forward of the firewall, and the fuel injectors were clear. Borescope inspection of each cylinder did not reveal any anomalies to the cylinder walls or piston crowns. The spark plugs were Champion REM 38 fine wire in "like new" condition, when compared with a manufacturer's wear chart, and exhibited grayish coloration. MEDICAL AND PATHOLOGICAL INFORMATIONA postmortem examination of the pilot was conducted by the Kings County Medical Examiner's office.The FAA Toxicology and Accident Research Laboratory, Mike Monroney Aeronautical Center, Oklahoma City, Oklahoma, conducted a toxicological examination of the pilot. The report indicated that 20 percent carbon monoxide was detected in blood and that 0.56 (ug/ml) cyanide was detected in the blood. No ethanol or other drugs were detected. ADDITIONAL INFORMATIONThe wreckage was released to the insurance representative, Jerry Wallace, Universal Loss Management.The pilot's logs were released to Donna Deremer.


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Ronald Weinland Guilty of Tax Fraud, Claims to be Persecuted for Being God's Witness
by Former White Hat
Had the world collapsed and Jesus returned on May 27, Ronald Weinland would not be facing prison time in Club Fed.
The jury in Weinland's tax evasion case deliberated less than four hours and came back with a guilty verdict on all five counts.
Where did all that money people were contributing to his church go? To a Swiss bank account, paying a house mortgage, and buying a new car every year. Deatra Loomer should take heed of this when she is tried for tax evasion for embezzling FreedomReigns.us finds.
So what was Weinland's defense? Well, since the end times were here and near and the US financial system would soon crash, what was the point of paying income tax? His lawyer tried to blanket this defense under religious belief and the freedom of expression of such.
Weinland has yet to write about his conviction on his website; previous posts regarding the investigation and grand jury indictment were, he claimed, the Cabal's persecution for he and his wife being the two witnesses from the Book of Revelations.
He now says their work as the witnesses is over, and also put a spin on why Jesus did not return last month: he says May 27 is "the beginning" of Jesus' return:
The Church of God – PKG looked to that specific physical day as the literal time of Christ's return and faithfully looked for his coming right up to the last hour on the Sabbath of the 26th [...]
May 27th has come and gone, so how can I say this is still the day of Christ's return? The answer is a matter of God's revelation which is spiritual in nature, but having a definite physical outcome. It is prophetic. I did not know that when I stated this was the "day" of Christ's coming. I viewed it in a physical manner until God revealed that it was spiritual. In the Pentecost sermon (given May 27th), it was clearly revealed that the job of the two witnesses had now come to an end. It ended at the end of the weekly Sabbath of the 26th, after the completion of the time God gave for their "witness" to be fulfilled, which was for a period of 1260 days.
That commission of that phase of God's work is now complete, just as Herbert W. Armstrong's commission (Mat. 24:14) became complete at the end of the era of Philadelphia after he died. Now that the job of two witnesses is complete, there is one final phase of God's work to be accomplished before His Son literally returns as King of kings. Then how is it that one can say May 27th is the "day" of His coming and still be true? The answer is exciting and inspiring to those who believe God, and it is nonsense to those who do not believe God. It is just that simple!
Though my job is complete as one of God's end-time witnesses, my job as a prophet and apostle continues. Those things written in 2008 – God's Final Witness will now be made manifest to this world as a matter of God's own direct work. The time of being a "witness" before God is complete, and as in the past 6,000 years, no one believes God save those few whom God has specifically called and given to "see" His words.
Gee, we heard the same from Harold Camping last year…when the Rapture and end of the world did not actually happen, he pushed the date six months in the future and said things "were beginning." This is the excuse we hear from many of these soothsayers, from the Jehova's Witnesses claiming they used the wrong calendar to those whose predictions do not come to pass then say it was all a test of faith, God wanted to see how many people would be prepared for it.
And it's the same excuse Drake is now putting out there since the mass arrests did not occur in the dateline he gave: I was given wrong info but it is still going to happen and things are happening right now, the thingamabobs are being rounded up…
Weinland and wife are currently under house arrest under a $300,000 bond, with sentencing to occur in September, a sentence up to five years, one year for each count.
His still faithful followers will say Satan is silencing him and most likely will keep sending their money to him, even while in prison.


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November 28, 2014
GRAND JUNCTION, Colo. (AP) - Snowmobiler Caleb Moore remains in critical condition in a Colorado hospital after a dramatic crash at the Winter X Games in Aspen.
Moore's grandfather told The Denver Post the prognosis isn't good and that it's "almost certain" the 25-year-old won't recover.
A family spokeswoman reissued a statement Tuesday thanking fans, friends and family for their support and asked for continued prayers. They declined further comment.
Moore was performing a flip Thursday when he clipped the top of a jump and went over the handlebars. The snowmobile rolled over him, but he walked off with help and went to a hospital with a concussion.
He later developed bleeding around his heart and was flown to Grand Junction for surgery. His family said Sunday that Moore then had a secondary complication involving his brain.
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