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Jets Kick Off OTA Phase of Their OffseasonPosted by on May 21, 2012 – 2:54 pm
The Jets have entered Phase III.
The Jets began their Organized Team Activities (a.k.a. OTAs) today at the Atlantic Health Jets Training Center. This is the start of Phase III on the Jets' offseason calendar for bringing players together and building toward the veteran minicamp June 12-14 and the return to Cortland, N.Y., for training camp. Other teams have started their OTAs either last week, this week or next week. The Jets' OTAs will run for three days a week over the next three weeks before minicamp week.
And because the weather was quite wet at the start of the day here in northern New Jersey, this first voluntary practice took place in the team's fieldhouse.
There is no media availability until Thursday this week. But it sounds as if WR Santonio Holmes was in the building and enjoying himself. As he tweeted on his certified Twitter account:
Great 1st day on the field as a whole unit. Looking forward to big things this year GO JETS!
Independent of the practice, we have some news from the numerology department: With the addition of Yeremiah Bell to the roster comes a small game of uniform dominoes.
Bell, who wore No. 37 for his entire eight seasons with the Aqua & Coral (Dolphins), will wear 37 again this season for the Green & White.
S Tracy Wilson, who wore No. 37 for the Jets last season, has downshifted to No. 36. And undrafted free agent CB Donnie Fletcher, who wore 36 at the rookie minicamp two-plus weeks ago, has moved on to No. 34.
Tags: Donnie Fletcher, OTAs, Santonio Holmes, Tracy Wilson, Yeremiah Bell
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By uncle joe on May 21, 2012 | Reply
Kendrick Ellis will do 45 days in jail which he can serve between these practices and training camp. Not a very cool summer vacation but it beats being deported!
By uncle joe on May 21, 2012 | Reply
It seems like Holmes is a changed man, and the whole offense is singing the praise of the new coaching staff. Seems like Shotty was not liked at all. Didn't he go to the Rams? so he's their O coordinator and their Defensive Coordinator was just thrown out of the league,,,and you people complain about this team!!!!
By Jake98660 on May 21, 2012 | Reply
So I guess by giving Tracy Wilson #36, Jim Leonhard wont be back. I'm alittile sad by that. I though Jim was much better then given credit for, andmuch better then Eric Smith. Smith, who missed the game saving tackle on Tim Tebow on thursday night football, and he was the guy who missed the tackle on Giants wide reciever Victor Cruz on that 99 yard td catch and run in week 16. Smith cant cover TE's and has proven he can't be a leader in the D back field, losing time to Brodney Pool the last couple seasons proves that. The Jets should drop smith and bring back Jimmy. I don't have faith in Bell or that Landry can stay healthy. Oh… and sign Revis before he holds out again. One more thing… Sanchez is better than Tebow. Stats prove it.
By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom on May 21, 2012 | Reply
uncle joe, I'll still cut Schotty the possible slack that Sanchez couldn't execute what Schotty wanted him to and that Rex's 1940s ideas about O made it harder for Schotty to put pts on the board. That said, Schotty shoulda been let go for his goal-line play-calling alone, as I started to say in November of 2009 when he called that ridiculous goal-line screen to Wallace Wright, of all people, on, if I remember correctly, 3rd down. Maybe it was 4th but either way, that bungled series was almost exactly like the bungled one vs PIT in the championship game over a yr later and Rex still hadn't worked up the guts or smarts to get rid of the guy. I have a feeling Sparano woulda fired Schotty a lot earlier.
By the real TO on May 21, 2012 | Reply
yea he def wasnt well liked out here on the streets either. namely the"fire brian schottenheimer" facebook page that was up since 2007 i think. i was def a fan of that page~! we'll see how holmes is once the season starts. once he doesnt get a ball thrown his way his tune can change real easily. plus couple that with sparanos new offense focusing on the run and we have DRAMA!!!!
By JACK 39 on May 21, 2012 | Reply
Why is Kenrick Ellis doing Jail time for? Didn't hear anything about this.
By Freddie_K on May 21, 2012 | Reply
FINALLY FOOTBALL RUMBLINGS :). I am starting to feel better. Let's hope that last season was just the terrible nightmare it was. Fresh coffee and move on. I am excited that the Jets management decided to FINALLY get some speed on offense & defense. Heck we need it. Also a big welcome to OC Tony S. and the O & D line coaches. Finally a D lineman to coach the D line. As for the news on Ellis – it could have been worse – both for him & the Jets. Let's hope he does not miss too much instruction during this off-season. Let's hope all the players stay healthy and we have a good year — Go JETS.
By DB fan sorry for NYJ fans on May 21, 2012 | Reply
I am a Denver fan and I got to say I fell bad for every single one of you NYJ fans for having to deal with Tebow and all his crazy followers. But dont worry us in Denver are still dealing with these delusional Tebow fans that think he is perfect.
By maryk on May 21, 2012 | Reply
when does training camp start in Cortland and what date does it run through please help we are planning our summer vacation and would like to visit the Jets at camp this summer
By Randy Lange on May 22, 2012 | Reply
maryk, we don't have the camp schedule yet from football but as soon as we get it, we'll make sure it's posted prominently on the site.
By Gustoon on May 22, 2012 | Reply
This off season is going soooo slowly. Can't wait to see pictures and videos from OTAs :-)
By punchie on May 22, 2012 | Reply
Kenrick Ellis will do no jail time if the justice system works they will see that justice has already been served. Bad guy gets a smack in the chops kenrick moves on to the NFL. justice served . I think that uncle joe should get 45 days ban from this site for his rediculous posts
By IRA on May 22, 2012 | Reply
Nice to hear some positive remarks from Holmes. I think he will have a bounce back year. As for Ellis well he is lucky it was reduced to 45 days only. The Jets knew what they were dealing with when they drafted him so this should come as no surprise. Very convenient that he makes minicamp and starts to serve his stay 6/15 and gets out in time to make camp except for a few days.
Very happy they signed Bell great insurance for Landry.
uncle joe,
Hey i am high on Saprano too but players always will sing praises to the new coach in town especially after the old one is gone. While all were to blame the players can put all of it on the past coach instead. Not all the plays called are the right ones by any coach but the players have to execute
By Frank on May 22, 2012 | Reply
Only Spicer would say Bell and Landry are a better tandem than Smith and Leonhard. We have two slow footed and 1 damaged strong safeties…who is going to cover the TE's? Belichick must be laughing him self silly. I wanted to sign Bell not Landry. I said it months ago Landry is damaged goods his achilles is not healed and he was told 2 years in a row to get surgery for the bone spurs which is creating this chronic problem. Unless one of these rookies step up big time Safety is going to be the teams "achilles heal" this season.
By IRA on May 22, 2012 | Reply
Frank, No way are they going to go with Bell and Landry back their as starters. Teams will have a field day throwing down the seams over 15 yds. This would be a nightmare and i would be shocked if they open the season back there together. Their FS is not on the rostor yet unles Bush, Wilson or Allen surprise. I knew they would regret the day they got rid of Rhodes. They haven't been able to cover deep since he has left. The problem with his attitude needed to be handled so they could keep him. Abraham and Rhodes still have not been replaced.
By Allan O'Dane on May 22, 2012 | Reply
These two safeties are built for stopping the run ( Bell/Landry). I thought the NYJ were going draft Barron..which many people think he could be the next Ed Reed. I would have liked to see Barron with Revis and Cro….and I know Landry has some issues but man this guy is like an extra LB will be good on run support. We will have to see how that heel holds up.
This Kendrik Ellis situation has struck a nerve with me…This Kid who was protecting his girlfriend and the guy coming at him had a bat. What was he supposed to do? For him to get any jail time just baffles me.
Frank…Belichick has been laughing at us for a very lonngggg time. Now that NE has stacked up their offense teams will be in the dime package all day long.
By Allan O'Dane on May 22, 2012 | Reply
Nice piece on NFL network the other night. "This has become a passing League"…64tom where have we heard this before? I thought players were supposed to have the QB's back. The only person I saw stand up for GQ was Mangold. I listen to some of the comments players are making about Tebow and you know what I hear? Mark Sanchez is not a leader…Sanchez makes to many bonehead errors…Sanchez is not strong willed…Sanchez doesn't throw hard…I am just reading inbetween in the line here guys….Sanchez will not be a NYJ next year. Put a stamp on that one.
By DKM on May 22, 2012 | Reply
well i've bin keeping up with some of the nonesense and good stuff thats been posted here latley, but bin also to busy not to do too much on my own, have to agree latley a lot more with the realisim of scjoe then the love affair between JFS64 and TomSpicer, joe still makes me laugh.
Yeah, Frank however you look at it the S problem is a lot better then it was last year is it champion caliber absolutely not but its better.
It had to work out for Ellis one way or the other he does his 45 and we finally can move on and maybe we will see more of a hybrid System as to just a 3 man Front. Willkerson, Pouha, Ellis, Couples, just saying not bad of a line.
By DKM on May 22, 2012 | Reply
Here is my take on Schotty, he schould have left after they turned him down for the HC job and just let Rex get his own OC, is he a bad OC i dont think so otherwise he wouldnt gotten another Job, especially with a prestigous Coach like JF. Does he deserves some of the blame for what went on here last year absolutly he does, i think a change of scenery was good for everybody involved.
Here is another thing thru all this you got to handed to Schotty he hasnt said one bad thing about the jets, sanchez or anybody he worked for or with, packed his Bags and took the highroad. Any other coach in his situation would have loved to rip this ORG. another one.
By uncle joe on May 22, 2012 | Reply
Ira, you're right about players passing the blame to coaches that are gone but coming from a guy like Keller I think there is a lot of truth. It seems like Shotty had no discipline and it was probably not by choice, no one really seemed to respect him. He definately needed a change of scenery but should've went down to the college level for a while to regroup before taking another NFL gig.
By uncle joe on May 22, 2012 | Reply
I also think one of the more underated offseason moves the Jets made was getting D-Line coach Dunbar. I read and hear nothing but great things about him and if we can get better production up front, with our Corners, things could get interesting! Just worried about this whole Safety position thing.
By cgb on May 22, 2012 | Reply
jimmy leonhard will be back dont let the #36 to tracy wilson fool you.He wants to be a jet, and after whatever happens during OTA'S and mini camp,and all that other speculation when the final roster spots are determined his name will be there.
By GaryC on May 22, 2012 | Reply
Bell, stop gap,nothing more,nothing less until something better comes along.
By wayne on May 22, 2012 | Reply
LOL, Punchie, I beggin ya to cut Uncle Joe some slack. He should get time served rooting for this team…….And never wavering.
By 40 year fan on May 22, 2012 | Reply
Jake – I am with you on Jim Leonhard bring that guy back , he was one of the smart ones …He always had a handle on what was going on before the snap …He knew football and always helped the others around him …
By 40 year fan on May 22, 2012 | Reply
64 tom – I am so glad to have Sparano ..Sparano is on a better team now , and he has more to work with …. Like obama , Schotty unfortunately, was in over his head …
By MIKE on May 22, 2012 | Reply
Jim Leonard is one of my favorite Jets too but, its hard to see Jim matching one on one with Gronk and Hernandez. With the 2 S drafted and 2 FA's I can't see them resigning Jim. Our FS is yet to be determined. The Jets would have to change up there D quite a bit to have Jim on the field. Jets haven't really played the style of D that allows a FS to roam around and make plays because of there pass rush problems.
By joe on May 22, 2012 | Reply
ONCE again I SEE ALL THE JET DREAMERS LIVING IN A FANTASYLAND ABOUT SB VICTORYS TO COME ARE OUT IN FULL FORCE THIS TIME REGARDING COACHES .The NE PATS CHANGE oc EVERY YEAR up there does it EVER make a difference .George Seiffort WAS GREAT AT SF in CAROL his record STUNK (the very same with Mike Shannohan Jimmy Johnson )Guys this is the NFL PLAYERS WIN FOOTBALL GAMES not changing COACHES.At this level to think one coach knows more Xs AND Os than ANOTHER IS A JET FANTASY .Theres no QB here BRINGING SPARANO MARKS or ANYBODY in here AINT GOING TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE.THE MOST IMPORTANT PERSON in an NFL org AINT THE HC but the DIRECTER OF PLAYER PERSONAL.WE simply in no WAY POSSIBLE have enough good players here guys
By Tom Spicer on May 22, 2012 | Reply
Frank, If Landry is healthy & plays the whole season he alone makes our Safteys better. He could make the pro bowl he is that type of player. Also could Landry & Bell (if Landry plays the whole season) be any worse than Leonhard & Smith REALLY?
By joe on May 22, 2012 | Reply
PS our NEW OC just got FIRED IN MIAMI for losing too many games MOSTLY BECAUSE THERE WAS NO QB .SPARANO COULDNT TURN HENNE INTO TOM BRADY BUT HES GOING TO BE ABLE TO TURN SANCHEZ-TEBOW INTO TOM BRADY .DREAM DREAM DREAM DREAM DREAM This is a 500 team that did not beat a team with a winning record all year NO COACH IS GOING TO GIVE PLAYERS THE ABILITY THEY DONT HAVE Rex is a competant defencive coach HE CANT TURN KYLE WILSON INTO Revis He couldnt turn Vern Gholsten into T Suggs .I read about NEW LINE COACHES ECT its a complete joke as YOU GUYS ARE JUST FOOLING YOURSELVES IT AINT GOING TO MAKE ONE BIT OF DIFFERENCE IN THE OVERALL SKYME OF THINGS .
By joe on May 22, 2012 | Reply
PARCELLS once said IF YOU WANT ME TO COOK THE MEAL I WANT TO BUY THE GROCERYS OR IN OTHER WORDS i want to be able to draft the player to make sure hes good enough to coach
By danny on May 22, 2012 | Reply
Frank no way is starting LaRon and Bell worse then having Leanard and Smith back there. Not saying I want them two on the field together but as I do love lil Leanard he is to small and that killed us but Smith is the slowest safety in the NFL, CFL, Arena League and any other league out there including LIFFL flag league. No safety can do worse then Smith did last season. Now he is a tough player and could be a GREAT Special Teams player so he is valuable but not at safety. Some are wrong with LaRon if he stays healthy the guy runs a 4.5 40yd dash and if u watch his highlights he can go sideline to sideline, Yes he hits a ton and great against the run but he can cover TE's with his speed and toughness. Antonio Allen is gonna suprise too
By joe on May 22, 2012 | Reply
PS BILL COWHER (FANTASTIC FOOTBALL COACH)is on record saying he ABSOLUTELY POSITIVELY WILL NOT COME OUT OF RETIREMENT TO COACH unless hes sure a franchise QB IS IN PLACE I wonder why as COWHERS ONE OF THE BEST COACHES OUT THERE .
By Tom Spicer on May 22, 2012 | Reply
DB fan sorry for NYJ fans, We are already dealing with these "delusional Tebow fans that think he is perfect." It is not easy & I only can think of how bad it will get when the season begins. Guys who dont know the game as well as the "delusional Tebow fans" will be screaming for him even if Mark has a career year. The problem is if you watched Tim MR. 46% Tebow you know he is not a NFL QB. The freaks will say he throws a good deep ball but I say yea but he cant complete a 5 yard pass.
By joe on May 22, 2012 | Reply
My old roommates college roommate signe PATS on with the PATS as an OG .If BRADY didnt like the gameplan he basically told whatever OC that was there THAT YEAR to change it or he would change it for him THATS HOW MUCH INFLUENCE THE OC HAS UP THERE
By joe on May 22, 2012 | Reply
JUST last year ALL THE JET DREAMERS GUSHED at TOM MOORE coming here as an advisor .After all HE WAS THE MAN BEHIND INDYS offence all those years HOW DID THAT WORK OUT For some reason i NEVER here MOORES name mentioned any MOORE .
By DKM on May 22, 2012 | Reply
Ira i happen to agree somwhat i think the FS is not on the roster yet but i also do not believe it will be coming from one of the guys we picked up in the 6th or 7th round.
There be plenty of bodys to go around as soon the teams starting cutting there rosters.
By IRA on May 22, 2012 | Reply
Sorry man their safety spots right now are not better than last year. Leonhard was a tough son of a gun and made sure everybody was lined up where they should be. He was suspect in pass coverage but he was like having a coach on the field. I wish him well and would love to see him back but i feel that ship has sailed.
By uncle joe on May 22, 2012 | Reply
Hey Punchie, you sound like you maybe got punched too many times, probably because you talk before thinking,,,Ellis really got sentenced to 45 days in jail.
By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom on May 22, 2012 | Reply
Ira, you're showing a very weird selective memory about Rhodes, who didn't like to hit and was as slow as any S we have on the roster today. Allan, I'm not a fan of Tebow based on what he's done in the NFL so far but I'm also not a far of this alleged superstar named Mark Sanchez who doesn't really exist on the field. In that sense, 40 year fan, Sanchez may have more in common with Obama than Obama does with Schotty, though I have very little good to say about any politicians of any party. They're almost never statesmen or stateswomen and are usually a nuisance at best, a menace at worst. Kinda like GMs who never played football or HCs who don't bother to learn their own offense…
By maryk on May 22, 2012 | Reply
thank you Randy keep up the good work, really enjoy reaading your stuff
By SCfromNY on May 23, 2012 | Reply
Safety has become a problem all over the NFL. The Giants did not have great safeties but won the Super Bowl. If the Jets DL can finally get some pressure the safeties job will be a lot easier. I agree it is a passing league BUT you need a PASSING QB. Whatever happened to the other running back we drafted last year? I think NY fans are smart enough to know Tebow's limitations. I hope McElroy gets a chance but I doubt it. They will trade him and he will become a star somewhere else.
By mike van on May 23, 2012 | Reply
Mark Sanchez will be great this year and if the defense can return to 2010 form, which I am sure they will, we have a championship caliber team. The sprinkle in a little Tebow and a great running game with Shonn and voila, the opposing team won't know what hit 'em. Go Jets!
By Chicago Bob on May 23, 2012 | Reply
If Leonhard is healthy, he will be brought back – just hoping N.E. doesn't beat us to the punch. There were a lot of holes to fill and I think for the most part they did a good job. If Coples is anything close to what we are hoping and Wilkerson continues to improve, that pass rush alone will help the safety situation however our lack of speed back there will hurt. We can only fix one thing at a time. Tebow still has a lot to improve on – I was never a Cavanaugh fan however hopefully Sanchez will have a decent enough year where Cavanaugh can continue to work on Tebow's mechanics. Good news on Ellis – only if he is able to reach his potential. I said it for 3 years, Schotty had to go – the discipline alone Sparano brings will improve things.
By FL.PETE on May 23, 2012 | Reply
The biggest culprit of last seasons was bringing in Burress to play opposite Holmes. Two strong egoed, outspoken WRs that were both allowed to from the Steelers for conduct detrimental to the team. Burress was the biggest cancer which is the reason for him not being signed to this point.
By FL.PETE on May 23, 2012 | Reply
Shotty had a great scheme, just probably needs to simplify the verbage and checks. His system always struggle against physical defenses going back to the Pennington days (Remember Favre's Frustration). The 2012 Jets will be much better after those two subtractions of Burress and Shotty.
By uncle joe on May 23, 2012 | Reply
Cannot fault the Jets for not getting a FS this offseason, all the good ones were franchised and the draft was weak at that position. Maybe Cro goes to Safety in certain packages like against NE's Gronk, just worry about having a bad tackler as our last line of Defense.
By IRA on May 23, 2012 | Reply
Rhodes wasn't like that until after he signed his new contract. 06-07 11 takeaways and 7 sacks please we haven't had a safety put up those type of #'s since who knows when.
By dave on May 23, 2012 | Reply
having bell and landry in together on the goaline defense will be nice, but other than that they can't be on the field together unless the other team is in our redzone.
I just dont understand how this team expects to win without a viable RT. Hunter is not a starter on a superbowl winning team. Let him go back to being "the best back-up tackle in football" as Rex used to call him.
By Allan O'Dane on May 23, 2012 | Reply
Cro would have made a great safety…IF he was willing to hit. He has the height..speed…range…weight…BUT the boy don't like to stick his nose in there. Landry does have speed and will be able to handle most TE's. So lets just hope the secondary of Revis-Cro / Landry-Bell become one the most feared secondaries. As far as our front seven. Coples-Pouha-Wilkerson is a wait and see thing. Thomas-Harris-Scott-Pace…there's the issue. Pace is overrated…Thomas is coming off injury and a year older..Scott? well…his bark is worse then his bite…Harris is pure run stuffing ILB and still the best. We need speed here. We can't rely on Maybin all the time for sacks. Pressure from front seven will make life easier for the secondary.
By Allan O'Dane on May 23, 2012 | Reply
And if we don't sign Leonard..he's going to NE…the ink won't even be dry when he gets off the plane. I like Jim L. but he wasn'y big enough of fast enough to handle the modern day TE. He will make a great secondary coach someday. Still have some concern about our RT issue. I know wayne wants to prove something…but last year was brutal. If Dunbar can coach up coples after working with Jared Allen…maybe..just maybe we finally have our verison of a John Abraham…
By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom on May 23, 2012 | Reply
Chicago Bob, "If Leonhard is healthy" should probably be put up over his locker after the guy goes down 2 yrs in a row in December. There is no worse choice than a 5′ 8″ S at this time given the way the league has been going for yrs. Last yr I asked who was covering Celek before the PHI game and the answer was no one so he went, what, 6 for 150? Sentimentality over guys like Leonhard is one big reason that the Jets remain losers.
By Karan on May 23, 2012 | Reply
I always thought Schotty had a horrible sheme. Once in the blue moon, the guy would call a great game, but on a usual basis, the playcalling was sooo perdictable. 1st & 10: run for 3 yards, 2nd & 7: pass to keller for 4 yards, 3rd & 3: run for a yard, 4th & 2: punt, and it was the same old thing over and over again. So glad he's gone, hope Sparano is a man who likes to take shots deep down the field.
By Karan on May 23, 2012 | Reply
Did anyone happen to catch the side of quinton coples arms? Looks pretty disgusting, like a skin engraved tattoe, i dont know what its called but looks painful, was part of his fraternity.
By Karan on May 23, 2012 | Reply
I really hope Mark Sanchez proves people wrong this year. There is a ton of pressure on him but he needs to answer the call. Its a do or die year for him, thats for sure. He doesn't seem intrigued by the Tebow signing but as wayne said, Sanchez needs to take a positive approach on that and step it up.
By Karan on May 23, 2012 | Reply
If Jim Leonhard returns, we will be absolutely loaded at safety. However, i read somewhere that Bell isn't here to be a back-up, that could mean bye-bye to Mr. Leonhard. I personally would be ecstatic If he returns, very smart player and definetly one of my favorite Jets during his tenure here. Lets continue that.
By wayne on May 23, 2012 | Reply
Ira, I agree, as deficient as some thought Leonhard was, you cannot underestimate the ability to run and catch a ball in the defensive secondary. The guys back there outside of the starting CBs have questionable hands and limited concept in playing against the pass….Brady will have them for lunch and show the rest of the league just how to exploit them….Chicago Bob, good point about Leonhard to NE. I can see that happening…..Before anybody go anointing Sparano as the next HC, remember how awful his O was down in MIA…He didn't do much to help a young QB there…As for Rhodes, Ira, all I can remember of him his last couple a years was him making tackles AFTER big gains. He shudda been better than he was. Went hollywood.
By Frank on May 23, 2012 | Reply
Ira spot on about Leonhard….he was the QB on defense calling the alignments and making sure everyone was in position and he was a stud at the line of scrimmage. I said it before when he is healthy they will sign him. 64 come on man Rhodes slow footed???? Dead wrong dude he was very fast and a playmaker and still is. I agree when Rex showed up his tackling skills declined rapidly. Danny you and Spicer are in dream world. Spicer still railing on Tebow….like I said let the best man win.
By wayne on May 23, 2012 | Reply
This team had better have an allworld pass rush. Revis can't check everybody and Cro only checks his man half the time…….
By SCfromNY on May 23, 2012 | Reply
My only problem with bringing back Leonhard will be since they signed Bell and Landry they will probably cut one of the draft picks. The Jets rarely give young players a chance to mature and show their stuff. On the other hand show Rex an old slow past his prime star andd he gets excited.
By joe on May 23, 2012 | Reply
You guys REALLY THINK the GIANTS won the SB last year BECAUSE THEIR COACHES know more about football than our .THATS A JOKE .The NY GIANTS won the SUPER BOWL LAST YEAR BECAUSE THEIR PERSONAL DEPARTMENT GAVE THE COACHES BETTER PLAYERS THAN OUR PERSONAL DEPARTMENT GAVE OUR COACHES .This is not the local HS OR D-2,D-3 COLLEGE PROGRAM WHERE ONE COACHES FOOTBALL KNOWLEDGE IS SUPERIOR .People dont understand the qualifications needed to coach at the NFL LEVEL.
By joe on May 23, 2012 | Reply
lol switch SANCHEZ for ELI Manning OSI ,TUCK and JPP for a couple of our DLINEMAN and then tell me how much more the GIANTS coaches know than ours
By joe on May 23, 2012 | Reply
LAUNDRY, SHULA, SHANNOHAN, JOHNSON, SEIFFORT, NOLL all all SB winning coaches that WENT BAD .Did these guys SUDDENLY FORGET HOW TO COACH FOOTBALL or did their personal departments have something to do with it be AQUIRING BAD PLAYERS. Bill BELLICHICK GOT FIRED IN Cleveland In NE DIFFERENT STORY Did BELLICHICK SUDDENLY learn more football or did TOM BRADY FALL IN HIS LAP
By joe on May 23, 2012 | Reply
Big Time D1 football SAME BASIC powerhouses compete year in year out FOR THE NAT CHAMPIONSHIP .Does A COACH AT ALABAMA KNOW MORE ABOUT FOOTBALL THAN A COACH AT SYRACUSE OR PURDUE .Its amazing how much a coach knows about football WHEN HES ABLE TO RECRUIT(AND GET INTO SCHOOL ) PARADE ALL AMERICANS EVERY YEAR.
By Bennett on May 23, 2012 | Reply
Stop in after 10 weeks to take a gander at the comments and it's the same old stuff. Spicer continues his inexplicable love affair with a QB that is mediorce at best but now instead of useless stats he has to attack Tebow on a none stop basis. Like this will prove how great Sanchize is. Landry is doubtfull for OPENING DAY, he has a chronic achiles tendon injury that the Skins wanted operated on instead he went with an "alternative treatment". GOOD LUCK with that. Leonard was a veteran leader and will be missed for the intangibles he brought. ie leadership, toughness etc… Hey Spicer did you ever fiquer out that some things can not be measured by stats alone… guess not… somethings will never change
By MarkP@JetsReality on May 23, 2012 | Reply
Ira will never say a bad word about Kerry Rhodes, the master of the hand tackle.
By danny on May 23, 2012 | Reply
Rich Kotite 1 – 15 then Pacells comes in and brings the Jets right to the playoffs but coaches mean nothing its just the players hahaha WOW . Brad Childress destroyed MINN Bretts greates statistical season as did Mike Tice when they had a young Randy Moss and Culpepper lighting the field up. Belicheck was a rookie coach in Cleveland and as in players it's the same for coaches they make rookie mistakes. Yes a Coach needs talent but talent also needs a great coach. Tony Dungy went to Tampa and turned that Team around then Chucky won a SB with them. They been rebuilding ever since. Ohh yes Alabama's coach is Nick Saban who is one of theee best College Coaches of all time, Some PPL just don't have a clue and think they really do haha
By Jake98660 on May 23, 2012 | Reply
Kerry Rhodes was on the fast track to being a pro-bowler, and probably would have been but got snubbed in favor of John Lynch after mangini's first year. Something changed though after Rex came. Don't get me wrong, I think the Defense is miles better with Rex calling the shots but something did change with Rhodes, which was to bad because I bought his jersy, and then right after that he left and signed with Arizona. went back and looked at madden 08 and Rhodes had a player level of like 93 and had the "ball hawk" tag on his avitar, just goes to show what he was thought of back then. It's just strange what happend to him.
By danny on May 23, 2012 | Reply
The Redskins tried to buy Championships plenty of times and how did that work out ?? Mangini can evaluate talent well and would make a great GM but he can;t coach that talent as he proved when Rex came in with his talent and took us to 2 AFC Championship games. Coaches mean nothing tho in the NFL. NE changes OC's but they have the best coach in the NFL and maybe in history. Every coaching job is different and a lot of times when winning coaches move on to another team it's because there last coach got fired and the team is rotten. Sometimes you can improve the team but if u never get the talent no u can't win but some coaches like a Mike Tice had the talent but CAN'T win
By Tom Spicer on May 23, 2012 | Reply
Leonard with his leadersip & toughness lol. After 3 years I am tired of watching him get trucked in the running game & beat in the passing game. 2 years in a row he had a season ending injury he cant stay healthy & he is 5'8 185 he does have the size to stand up to these guys .We need to get better in the spot
By Tom Spicer on May 23, 2012 | Reply
Laron Landry has been in the game 5 years in the 1st 3 years he made the pro bowl. The last 2 years he has season ending injurys Leonard also has had season ending injurys the last 2 years. So I can understand this how is Landry damaged goods but Leonard is not? also where are the 3 pro bowls for Leonard thats right he never even came close to making 1. Come on now where do some of you guys come up with this stuff?
By Tom Spicer on May 23, 2012 | Reply
Bennett, It doesnt take stats to see that a Landry is significantly better than Leonhard & it doesnt take stats to see that Mark is a significantly better QB than Tebow. But you cant see it so I guess somethings do never change.
By DKM on May 23, 2012 | Reply
Since when has leadership and calling plays and lining up a secondary become the the perfect answer for our FS Problem you guys got to be kidding me i understand what JL brought to the Table but 2 years in the row he got hurt and for you guys trying to make a case to bring him back is just the same old mediocrety we are trying to get away from it.
Thats the same people whom trying desperatly to make a case to bring back BE wich is just utter nonesense can we just move on.
One day and i wish him the best JL will be a great secondary Coach but his playing days are over.
By DKM on May 23, 2012 | Reply
Joe im not as quiet down on our player personel as you are but im almost there and i agree with you about the FO, wich has been a toatal dissapointment over the past one and half years. In regards to player development, drafting, trades or FA signings the FO has in my opinion totaly underachived.
On the Coaches subject however joe, think about this, Pete Carroll curently doing so with Seattle, Rich Kotite, and whole bunch off others would find a way to srew up even Tom Brady. Allthough i agree in principle with about the idea that great players make great Coaches, there is also the the other Side where bad Coaches just are what they are BAD.
By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom on May 23, 2012 | Reply
That's right, Ira, Rhodes got worse every yr he was on the team, which is why Rex gave him one more chance and then sent him on his way. As for S sacks, the way Rex designs D even a shrimp like Drew Coleman can get 4 or 5 of 'em a yr, so I'm not impressed. When Jets DL guys and LBs start getting sacks in good numbers, gimme a call. Frank, you must not watch all the games or watch very closely. On that pick in Rhodes' last yr with us — the one on which he said he was "embarrassed to be caught from behind by a WHITE guy!" — he looked like he'd pulled a muscle. And he doesn't look too swift on AZ these days — and as wayne says, he makes A LOT of his tackles after huge gains, as many guys on bad D's do.
By joe on May 23, 2012 | Reply
BENNETT are you kidding 10 weeks (lol )i have 40 plus years of the stuff .Every year the same teams with elite qbS FLIP FLOP THE LOMBARDI TROPHY BUT US BEING THE NY JETS (ONE OF THE TOP SNAKEBIT FRANCHISE IN THE NFL ) we are going to be able to compete employing SANCHEZ-TEBOW AT QB (meanwhile the fans fight over whos better in THIS CASE WHICH DECK CABIN WAS BETTER ON THE TITANTIC )Another FANTASTIC DAYDREAM is the impact T Sparano will have around here.(LAST YEARS DAYDREAM was TOM MOORE THAT DID WONDERS)Yea Sparano got fired in MIAMI but dont worry hes going to turn SANCHEZ into TOM BRADY in no time here
By BlackDynamite on May 24, 2012 | Reply
I think out of all the additions this year, Tebow and Karl Dunbar are the biggest.
I expect big things in the running game, and a dynamic, play-like-Jets DL
By IRA on May 24, 2012 | Reply
You hit it gone Hollywood is right. Too bad great ability if his head was screwed on right.
Funny how the draft is such a crap shoot. Looking back to 2002 B. Moore, A. Chatman, J. Reed, B. Scott, J Harrison and W. Demps all were undrafted players. Maybe we get lucky this year with one or two.
On a more serious subject very sad to hear about the passing of Steve Mendelsohn. I had the pleasure of meeting him several times and he was a great guy and very interesting person to talk to. Please everybody take the time to read Randy's story about him. May he rest in peace.
By GaryC on May 24, 2012 | Reply
would hate to think jet fans are losing sleep about resigning Leonhard.Jets sign another blocking fullback.How many do we need, sounds like more training camp fodder or the jets are going to line up a lot of guys behind Hunter when he becomes a revolving door again.
By IRA on May 24, 2012 | Reply
Conner had no competition at all besides maybe Baker lined up at times. I am not sold on Conner after watching him last year. Hard to fill T-Rich's shoes and Sparano likes to use a FB. Conner has to step up his game this summer. If Hunter plays up to his ability he will be ok. Still think they have a short list of veterans and will be watching the waiver wires in case a veteran is needed.
By wayne on May 24, 2012 | Reply
GaryC, not losing sleep over Leonard, but I assure you if he can play and he ends up in NE, Jets will pay. You can't possibly believe they're going to be better with the guys they'll have patrolling center field……..If things stay the way they are…………………………………Spicer, you got love for nobody but GQ…..Jets still need a replacement Mr. Leonard……………………………………They better be coming with the rush big time or it's going to be a disaster back there.
By Bennett on May 24, 2012 | Reply
The point is not that Landry is a better S than Leonard the point is Landry is chronically injured and may not even be able to play a full season hence the "prove it" 1 year deal. The point is not that Sanchez is a better QB than Tebow the point is any way you look at it Sanchize is just not a good QB and has not lived up to the expectations of the 5th pick. His preformance in the last 3 games highlighted his problems. He should never have had an extension and should have had to compete for the stating postion. Putting down Tebow will not change this. If he slips the media will begin unrelenting pressure to start Tebow. I think we all realize this
By Allan O'Dane on May 24, 2012 | Reply
GaryC, you hit it right on the head. All this with extra FB and a Rugby player is to help Wayne hunters side of the line. Putting a bandaid on this instead of addressing this issue via free-agency or the draft. That's Mike T for you..Big Mistake letting Rob Turner go. Could have just inserted him in RT and keep slauson at G. Turner was the ace guy who could cover all positions on the O-line.
Jake98660, what happened to Kerry Rhodes? He went Hollywood that's what happened…he was more interested in posing for magazines and doing shows then playing football. And this kid had all the tools to be great…wasted talent.
By Chicago Bob on May 24, 2012 | Reply
Sparano will have an impact on the offense – the accountability alone will make this offense better and he will play to their strengths. He is head and shoulders above Schotty – Sparano will not have Sanchez throwing the ball 40-50 times a game nor will he sit back and play conservative and hope the defense holds out and wins the game. Schotty is now Jeff Fisher's problem. Sparano did not have much to work with however you will notice the Dolphins never quit on him, they played hard throughout the season. Don't forget, Sparano was Parcell's hand picked successor – unless all of us have short memories, Parcells is no dope. Sparano may not be a good head coach however from what his record indicates, he is a very good assistant.
By joe on May 24, 2012 | Reply
Belichicks a great coach no doubt LETS SWITCH SANCHEZ for Tom Brady and see how MANY SBOWLS Bellichick wins
By joe on May 24, 2012 | Reply
PS 2 AFC CHAMIPINSHIPS MEAN 0 WE HAVE NOT WON THE SB THATS ALL THAT COUNTS MANGENI EVALUATED WHAT TALENT we are one of the worst drafting teams in the NFL ANYONE COULD HAVE DRAFTED MANGOLD AND REVIS
By joe on May 24, 2012 | Reply
Dkm no joke 20 of my buddys played in the NFL (A FEW WERE TAKEN IN THE FIRST OR SECOND ROUND )They read these columns about coaching and laugh like theres no tommorrow.My business partner played 5 years in the NFL(STARTED GIANTS IN 2000 SB ) and was one of the greatest D LINEMAN IN NEBRASKS HISTORY will tell you flat out that NO COACH is going to give ANY PLAYER ABILITY HE DOESNT HAVE .Its no like HIGH SCHOOL a few years INTO AN NFL CAREER THE AVG PLAYER IS DONE
By Stephan Palos on May 24, 2012 | Reply
Everybody seems to forget that last year was a lockout year. A year ago there were no rookie camps, no OTA's no strength and conditioning. We were waiting for the players and the owners to come to an agreement. Sanchez will be fine. He did take us to Two straight AFC championship games. No other team can say their team went to two straight conference games, unlees you look at the Faketiots all those years ago. Wayne Hunter will be fine. He did ok in the playoffs two seasons ago, filling in for Damien Woody. The Jets were built to outlast teams in the 4th qtr. I see a 12-4 season coming
By kleckofan on May 24, 2012 | Reply
Not sure why there are so many posts on here worrying about slow safeties' inability to cover the deep ball. Our problem has been over the middle (see gronk, celek and welker). Sure we need speed, everywhere, but knocking receivers off their routes works well. Pitt beat NE doing it. Lets see our front 7 make life easier for the back end. Agree w someone on here; don't get sentimental about Leonhard, too small, too slow, big brain=coach. People do the same w Pennington b/c he's such a great guy.
BTW, I know we don't point out typos, grammar etc, but as an HR Mgr I have to say this: players are PERSONNEL, comments on here about other posters are PERSONAL.
By Tom Spicer on May 24, 2012 | Reply
From Yahoo "Mark Sanchez was sharp in the New York Jets' first session of organized team activities open to the media, while backup Tim Tebow threw two interceptions in a three-play span. While it's only May, and the Jets have made it clear that Sanchez is the starting quarterback, it was an encouraging performance. The play of the day was Sanchez's 80-yard toss to speedy second-round draft pick Stephen Hill. Tebow, acquired in March to be Sanchez's backup, was picked off by Bart Scott and then newly signed Yeremiah Bell two plays later. " I love the 80 yard bomb to Stephen Hill part I hope to see alot of that this year. I think this kid Hill is going to be a keeper.
By ron alexander on May 24, 2012 | Reply
Thank you Klecko fan! You are right on the money.Rex will have to amp up the pass rush this year because if any decent Q.B has even a little time we will be in trouble. our safty's are good run stoppers but not good against the pass. leonard and Smith were too slow or too small so there is no sence worrying about them.Landry is a work out guy that looks good in the gym but cant stay on the field. Bell is more know as a run support guy. Could be a long year.
By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom on May 24, 2012 | Reply
Right with ya on Leonard as a coach and on the underneath TE problem, kleckofan. Ira, of course Conner isn't worth much, he was somebody Rex insisted on picking.
By joe on May 24, 2012 | Reply
KLECKO agree with you as far as stragety verses NE the problem is PITTSBURGH has 6 pro bowlers on tha D to impliment such a stragety AND WE DEFINATELY DONT
By joe on May 24, 2012 | Reply
lol heres an EXCUSE i have NEVER HEARD BEFORE (AND I HEARD A TON BEING A 40 YEAR JET FAN )THE LOCKOUT.I guess the Pats Giants Pack ect didnt have to contend with such things ONLY THE JETS
By GaryC on May 24, 2012 | Reply
Ira,allan o'dane read my mind about also having Hayden Smith,who I am sure is going to be in the backfield at times,so you have him,connor and Baker and also ganaway,so the new arrival is training camp fodder,Wayne,if new england wants Leonard so be it,Not many pro bowls in his trophy case,even while playing for the Ravens.
By joe on May 24, 2012 | Reply
JET DAYDREAMERS LIVING IN THEIR OWN FANTASYLAND ABOUT SB VICTORYS TO COME what in the world happened to your man TOM MOORE .Let me REFRESH all your memorys TOM MOORE was going to come here and REALLY GIVE US A BOOST after all LOOK WHAT HE DID AT INDY. I tried to tell everyone UNLESS HES BRINGING PAYTON WITH HIM ITS ABSOLUTELY POSITIVELY MEANINGLESS.This year we traded MOORE-SCHOTTY for RECENTLY FIRED TONY SPARANO.Some claim SPARANO TRUMP CARD WAS THAT HE HAD HIS GUYS PLAYING HARD FOR HIM .In the NFL last time i checked they dont give the LOMBARDI out because a coach has his guys playing hard for him LOL The owner was paying SPARANO approx 4 million plus a year in MIAMI PLAYING HARD and LOSING AINT GOING TO CUT IT
By danny on May 24, 2012 | Reply
Sparano had O talent to work with and as someone said his team never quit. A lot of coaches in the past have been great assistants and poor Head Coaches. Mangini put together a damnnn good team. Horrible teams don't beat Indy and NE on there turf in playoffs and play in 2 AFC Championships in a row. Brickshaw, Revis, Mangold and David Harris are Pro Bowl players and Dustin Keller was def a good draft choice and productive player for us. As for Sparano as somone also said earlier Bill Parcells knows football better then most and better then anyone on this site and he loves Sparano as a Coach so that in itself is enough to feel good about the guy. Not having Shotty is also enough to feel good about Sparano
By joe on May 24, 2012 | Reply
Sparano didnt have much to work with in MIAMI .Its much better here though as we HAVE ALL OF 3 PRO BOWLERS ON THE ROOSTER .For reference the PATS have 9 and the Steelers 8 Packers 9 Giants 6 (Every single team that made the playoffs had 6 or better pro bowlers) .We dont need all star players though BECAUSE SPARANO will no doubt bring exactly to the defence what TOM MOORE brought to the offence last year
By danny on May 24, 2012 | Reply
Even on the NFL level a great coach can get the best out of a player and get the player to play to his full potential. Rex proved that last season with Maybin. He was a bust in Buffalo but yet played great for Rex and led the team in sacks. Watch how much our D line will improve under Coach Dunbar who is known thru out the league as one the best D line coaches in all of football. Coaching can help a good player become great and a average player become good even on the NFL level. There have been plenty of players with all the talent in the world but don't pan out and there are some with less talent that have pro bowl yrs. Coaching is huge in the NFL and to say only elite QB's win SB well how many Rich Kotite's win them ?
By ron alexander on May 25, 2012 | Reply
Joe, help me out here, While I admit you do make some very good points here, I cant help but wonder are you a Jet fan? I am asking seriously ? Dude, You make Joe Baningo on the FAN look like an optomist! I mean does everything you point out have to be so negative? Hey,, i agree we do need to point out certian obvious facts to the delusional ones here like Frank, however,isn't there anything you like about our team? Come on Joe, how about a nice J.E.T.S jets,jets,jets cheer for the guys on the site to kick off the holiday weekend? I know you can do it! later dude!!!!
By joe on May 25, 2012 | Reply
Ron 40 plus years of BEING ONE OF THE WORST FRANCHISES IN THE NFL IS ENOUGH. I have spent TENS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS in season tickets over that 40 year period TO SEE 1 DIV TITLE Ron this franchise NEVER EVER LEARNS FROM ALL THE LOSING Take WHAT CHAMPIONSHIP GRADE FRANCHISES DO AND FOLLOW IT Pittsburgh ,NE Ny Giants GB Packers do everything 180 different than we do they win we dont.Prototypical NY JETS we trade up 2 years ago to get our franchise QB and NOW we got TEBOW HERE..HISTORY PROVES 2 QB SYSTEMS DONT WORK History (ESP TODAY WITH THE NEW RULES )PROVES we need a modern passing offence NOT GROUND AND POUND .
By joe on May 25, 2012 | Reply
Danny Mangini PUT TOGETHER A DAMN GOOD TEAM really. Where are the div titles conf championship and sb titles from that damn good team If the team was so good why didnt they win anything
By joe on May 25, 2012 | Reply
IF millions of dollars IS NOT INCENTIVE ENOUGH YOU THINK COACH DUNBAR is going to show anything TO A NFL VETERAN he hasnt seen in 20 plus years of organized football .Danny you really NEED TO SPEAK TO ACTUAL NFL PLAYERS ON THIS SUBJECT INSTEAD of trying to TRANSPOSE HS coaching to the NFL Any NFL PLAYER WILL TELL YOU WITHIN A FEW PRACTICES( COACH OR NO COACH )THEY CAN TELL IF A GUY IS PRO BOWL POTENTIAL OR NOT At NEBRASKA YEARS AGO my business partner WORKED OUT SUH .AT 20 YEARS OLD HE SAID THE GUYS GOING TO THE PRO BOWL No coach IS going to make a good player into a pro bowl player your dead wrong
By joe on May 26, 2012 | Reply
As my business partner always puts it playing in the NFL TODAY is about being a freak of nature (possessing physical ability one in a million possess )The great NFL players (pro bowlers like JPP ,SUH.,Harrison.Lewis,Polumu )take their physical attributes to ANOTHER LEVER as THEIR the freaks amoung the freaks .You ABSOLUTIVELY POSITIVELY can not coach abilitys they have No coach is going to turn a good game manager player like our Simone Pioha into Suht OR BALTIMORES NATTA NEVER EVER GOING TO HAPPEN
By danny on May 26, 2012 | Reply
Well Joe Vernon Gholston coming out of College had all the ability to be a pro bowl player and where did that get him ???? Our Very own Blair Thomas coming out of Penn State OMG the dude was a stud and where did that get him ?? Wayne Chrebet wasn't even supposed to make the team yet he is one of the greatest Jets of all time. Ryan Leaf was supposed to be a Pro Bowl QB what happ ? Darrell Revis was said to be to slow to cover ELITE WR's by ur guy Mel Kiper and would move to Safety and now he is the best Corner in Football. Tom Brady was a 6th rd pick and supposed to be career backup well he got one less SB ring the Montana. No Joe u and ur buddy are DEAD wrong
By danny on May 26, 2012 | Reply
Joe Bill Belechick won Superbowls with practice squad DB's. Do u not remember any of this ??? He adjusted his system to these players abilitys and had solid D's with guys off the street playing in the Defensive backfield. Do u think Joe Walton could have done that ???? Joe I only call you out because like Ron said your not a fan u just bash our team and u think you know everything there is about the game but ur DEAD Wrong. Yes the last 40yrs have been a let down but real fans still wouldn't jump ship to the Giants or Pats they hope this is finally the yr. 64 aint happy with the past but he is excited for our draft picks and to see what this season brings. I think ur speaking for ur buddys not them. It's ur opinion
By danny on May 26, 2012 | Reply
Joe how many guys are drafted in the top 10 and are busts ? Top 10 draft choices are supposed to be Pro Bowl players but actually a lot arent even starters. Guys drafted in the 4th rd become pro bowl players because they had ability and NFL coaching brought it out of them to there fullest potential. Yes Dundbar can show vets tricks they may have never seen before. Pouha already said in a earlier interview that he learned a technique the first day from dunbar that he never seen before and loved it. Coaches can bring the best out of a player and put them in position to succeed. I can't believe u say coaching means nothing to these players. Didnt Alex Smith FINALLY excel under Harbough?
By ron alexander on May 26, 2012 | Reply
Joe, Again, you make a great point. This organization has been mis managed for the last 40+ years. I get it! Of course so has the Detroit Lions,Dallas Cowboys(since jones decided to be his own g,m) and event the Miami Dolphins just to name a few. I guess my point is we are who we are as fans, we are goona root for our team no matter what. If we stink,we stink.I think guys like Danny and I just want to look forward to better things to come and we have not determined that Rex is not gonna get it done. Hey, I respect your opinion, so how about letting us dream? P.s, would love to have a few cold ones with you,Danny and S.C. Joe.Would be a blast!
By joe on May 26, 2012 | Reply
Danny who knows more about football you or a a guy who was a number 1 NFL DRAFT CHOICE AND WAS A FIRST TEAM ALL AMERICAN ON WHAT IS REGARDED AS THE GREATEST COLLEGE TEAM EVER Danny who knows more about football you or the current HC at the UNIVERSITY OF MIAMI WHO WAS BLAIR THOMAS TEAMMATE
By joe on May 26, 2012 | Reply
Danny certain players make it and certain dont because THEIR BETTER PLAYERS NOT BECAUSE THEY HAD A BETTER COACH Our Dline coach absolutely positively does not know more X AND OS THAN ANY OTHER D LINE COACH IN THE NFL The NFL is not the local HS where one coach may know VASTLY MORE FOOTBALL THAN ANOTHER Danny my old buddy of 20 years is the HC at the U You think he knows more about football than say the HC at a team like PURDUE .He doeesnt DANNY THE REPUTATION OF THE SCHOOL GIVES HIM THE ABILITY TO DRAW IN MUCH BETTER PLAYERS.Saben at ALABAMA contends evey YEAR NOT BECAUSE HES A BETTER COACH BUT BECAUSE HE HAS THE ABILITY TO GET THE VERY BEST HS PLAYERS IN THE COUNTRY
By danny on May 27, 2012 | Reply
Why is it Drew Brees and Chad Pennington had there best statistical yrs when they moved on from Shotty as there OC ???? Well How it is because Shotty couldn't adjust to there Strengths and give them the chance to succeed with the abilities they have. That is what a good coach can do. Rex made out pitiful D into a top 5 D the 1st yr he came here with the same players but Bart Scott and lil Jim Leanard and ur saying coaching means NOTHING. hahahahahahahaah WOW OMG someone else please call this know it all out too please ??? Ron where are you ? Tell Joe he has no idea what he is saying on here and it's def not the opinion of Miami's HC no wayyyyyyyyy he thinks like Joe he wouldn't be HC of Miami hahaha
By danny on May 27, 2012 | Reply
Joe why is Dunbar known as a top D line coach by his peers ????? Joe all these NFL players and coaches don;t know what there talking about when it comes to Dunbar but Joe from NYJETS.com DOES ahahahaha WOW Joe u are 100 percent right, Coaching in the NFL means absolutily nothing. Ur buddy from the U can take the Giants to the SB and win no problem hahahahaha
By joe on May 27, 2012 | Reply
Danny as far as my buddy whose the head at THE U that college could HAVE ANY COACH IN THE COUNTRY THEY WANT (INCLUDING YOUR BROTHER IN LAW )and they chose my boy.(AS A MATTER OF FACT THEY JUST GAVE HIM AN EXTENSION )Is he quaifyed to coach in the NFL (are you kidding me hes at one of THE GREATEST COLLEGE PROGRAMS IN EXISTANCE )COACHES at that level FLIP FLOP TO THE NFL ALL THE TIME .Bill Walsh,Nick Saben Bobby Petrino,Pete Carroll,Charlie Weiss,Lou Holtz,Barry Switzer
By joe on May 27, 2012 | Reply
Danny go out and read LT BOOK it describes in detail just how much his pro lb coach helped him .My buddy who still works for the Giants was his PERSONAL VALET .(he used to wake him up in the stadiums parking lot on game day mornings after being out partying all night )Please dont delite this as its published in his book.LT didnt listen to Parcells much less than his position coach .WOW to think how good he would have been if he just listened
By joe on May 27, 2012 | Reply
Ps LT used to love to sleep in FILM MEETINGS telling the POSITION COACH OR BELLICHICK not to dare wake him .
By joe on May 27, 2012 | Reply
Danny you coach at the HS GIVE ME EVERY LINEMAN THAT YOU EVER COACHED thats was 6.3 or better 300 lbs or better benched 475 or better ran 5.10 or better in the forty at tha above listed size in HS .Danny MY businesa BROTHER AND HIS 2 BROTHERS ALL DID THE ABOVE Coaching didnt give them that that ability GENETHICS DID Two brothers played for Nebraska one for Notre Dame (ALL WERE ALL AMERICANS AT COLLEGE OR IN HS )WHEN YOU GET TO TOP 20 d1 OR THE NFL its sheer ignorance to think one team or program has better coaches than another Players win games not coaches DANNY
By joe on May 27, 2012 | Reply
ps Danny Nebraska took the oldest brother on playing less than 5 high school games TOTAL thats right Danny 5 hs games total .In the all shore game (all star game in central NJ as a DTACKLE he had 3 sacks in one quarter (they pulled HIM OUT AFTER THAT BECAUSE IT WAS NOT FAIR as he was throwing 200 lb hs lineman 5 feet into the backfield )So Danny explain to me how coaching helped him get a full ride to Nebrasks playing in less than 5 hs games
By joe on May 27, 2012 | Reply
Danny i also think you should call the following teams up and let them know something is wrong with their staffs .Mike Shannohan at Denver TURNED ELWAY INTO A HOF at WASHING HE MUST BE SLACKING off as Rex Grossman Aint cutting it .Mike Holmgren turned B Farve INTO A HOF at GB in Cleveland he must be slacking off as Colt McKOY aint cutting it.I can see why Jimmy Johnson got fired at Miami after all in Dallas he turned Troy Aikman into a HOF at MIAMI his qbs never cut it.Mike Ditka to he turned all those 85 bears into HOFERS in NO his teams stunk
By danny on May 27, 2012 | Reply
Joe NO Shannahan didn't turn Elway into a HOF as i never said such a thing. U can't even understand what I am saying because in ur mind u think what u say is right. U are not even close to what my pt is Joe because all u know how to do is throw names at. It's useless talking to you as all u say is ur friend did this and ur friend did that. Joe how many LT's are there that ever played ? Were talking most NFL players not LT. As u said yes in college if u have the size they will take u and try to turn u into a player but that don;t happen in the NFL. Vinny Stewart a Longwood player was a monster but not great and got full ride to Penn State due to his size. Omare Palmer is a monster and skilled from Longwood and has a full ride to Cuse
By danny on May 27, 2012 | Reply
Ohh ur buddy got to Nebraska in 5 games due to like i said YOU CAN"T TEACH SIZE so a College coach will take a chance due to that size and try to coach him into a player. That is a known fact so stop with all ur shananigans and realized ur WRONG JOE as u are about the U rite now they STINK
By danny on May 27, 2012 | Reply
BTW Joe are u 6.3 300LBS ?? Joe are u a college coach ? Joe did u play in the NFL ? If not don;t come on here like u know everything because ur bussines partner has played College Ball. I feel bad for that poor guy dealing with a know it all everyday hahahaha
By danny on May 27, 2012 | Reply
BTW Johnson had a 62yr old QB in Dan Marino in Miami and no team at all but again u are WRONG he wasn't fired Joe he resigned . WOW Joe is so wrong yet again hahahahaha
By joe on May 28, 2012 | Reply
Danny as far as my own personal numbers HELLO EARTH TO Danny i played in a league full of EX PRO AND TOP LEVEL D1 PLAYERS .DANNY HOW DO YOU THINK I KNOW ALL THE EX NFL GUYS
By joe on May 28, 2012 | Reply
ps DANNY you have not EVER COME UP WITH ONE PERSON that you associated with that made a PRO ROOSTER (NOT ONE) BUT YOUR AN AUTHORITY ON THER NFL
By joe on May 28, 2012 | Reply
Danny JIMMY JOHNSON was 500 in MIAMI (1 playoff win in 4 seasons)George Seiffort was terrible in CAROLINA ,AFTER SF So was Ditka and Hank Stram WHY DANNY did they FORGET HOW TO COACH AFTER ONE OR 2 YEARS Give me the reason DANNY
By joe on May 28, 2012 | Reply
ps Vinny STEWART a MONSTER (maybe in your world )i SUGGEST YOU ASK Vinny (THOUGH YOU PROB DONT KNOW HIM )about Donfrio, Golden, Rucci and Burger THEY were MONSTERS at PENN STATE (RUCCI WAS A PRO BOWLER ) Danny .(Ps Guess WHO RECRIUTED Vinny ,Danny)Danny if you thoughT Vinny Stewart was A MONSTER in HS google THE Peter Bros.
By joe on May 28, 2012 | Reply
Danny you also FORGOT (HA HA )to answer my question about Tom Moore .What happened last year as TOM MOORE was responsible FOR COACHING TERRY BRADSHAW AND PAYTON MANNING INTO HOF ERS Tom Moore was brought here as a SPECIAL CONSULTANT to help with SANCHEZ .Hes the BEST OF THE BEST but for some reason SANCHEZ didnt play like BRADSHAW OR MANNING
By danny on May 28, 2012 | Reply
Joe what league is this u played in with ex NFL players ?? Joe NFL players play college football then NFL Joe they don't risk injury playing in some All Star sideshow league Joe. Ur making it up Joe no one played in this side league ur talking about. Unless u played College ball at a DIV 1 School u never played in some side league with Pro Players. U mite fool the young kids in the Neighborhood but ur not gonna fool real men who Know the game of football and how it works, Just stop already Joe and be open to others opinions too
By Danny on May 28, 2012 | Reply
Joe's league of his own woth NFL players. They all said forget college and getting hurt lets risk our careers in Joe's street ball league LOL. Joe I have told u already which u refused to listen but my teammate in HS played with Marshall Faulk and the Rams for 2 seasons when they were the "Greatest Show on Turf". I don't brag Joe and pretend I know ppl like you and sorry Joe NFL players did not play in some side league and risk there career's to play with Joe from NYJETS.com. U gotta stop already with all this Jibber Jabber of who u know and who ur friends know bro LOL ENOUGH already and be open to others opinions without saying u know a GUY who ran circles around LT lol
By SCfromNY on May 29, 2012 | Reply
This has to be the most BORING string of comments ever. All NFL players are special some more than others. What good coaches do is tailor the plans to the talent they have. Their success is measured in their ability to apply it. Coaches who have a mind set and will try to make players conform to it fail. Besides a lot of comments have been posted without any mention of Tebow.
By ron alexander on May 29, 2012 | Reply
Danny, Sorry dude but nothing you or I say is gonna get Joe to give it a rest. I think he is just fed up after 40+ years and he needs to vent. The good news is there are plenty of other fans here who want to be excited about the coming seasons so lets just concentrate on them. I am likeing what I am reading about Sparano. he's tough but a very positive guy. There was a nice piece on him in the Post or news the other day.
By ron alexander on May 29, 2012 | Reply
Joe, Sorry dude, gotta go with Danny on this one. Just because a guy played d-1 football and was "Bust Thomas's room mate does not mean he knows more about football than anyone else! I played with some of the dumbest guys imaginable. We literally had to have index cards with the plays diagrammed on them in the huddle to get them to go in the right direction. Hey, Ted Williams was argueably the greatest hitter off all time but he was one of the worst managers ever! Knowledge and coaching ability have zippo to do with actual playing or coaching ability. Hey, Hank Haneyand Butch Harmom are great golf teachers but never played on any golf tour?
By joe on May 29, 2012 | Reply
Danny your boy that played on the RAMS YOU FORGOT TO GIVE HIS NAME (Be advised I HAVE ACCESS TO ther NFL aLUMNI DIRECTORY and can EASILY find out)Any more questions about the old LB league just ask DANNY Y .pS OUR RUSH lb W BARNES PLAYED with GEORGE Rogers AT SC and was projecteD TO GO VERY HIGH IN THE 81 DRAFT
By joe on May 29, 2012 | Reply
SC one thing i learned from the NFL guys is that a FANS PERSEPTION of the NFL is alot of times wishful thinking with a bias toward their team In this debate Danny is trying to transpose WHAT HAPPENS IN HS COACHING TO THE NFL My partner played alongside \Strayhan FOR YEARS with the Giants he will tell you flat out that a coach is only as good as his talent no coach knows anymore football than another at this level its whether the personal departments on their teams have given them the players
By joe on May 29, 2012 | Reply
SC theres NO QB HERE end of story LAST YEAR TOM Moore was the savior (how did that work out )This year its Tony Sparano You posted that a coach tailers his philosophy TO HIS TALENT =very true .Rex wants to run the ball because he doesnt have the QB TALENT to throw it .(BUY TRYING TO DO SO WILL CAUSE TURNOVERS )He know we got no shot at winning the SB this way BUT WHATS HE GOING TO DO HE DRAFTED SANCHEZ
By danny on May 29, 2012 | Reply
Ummm Joe Vinny Stewart went to Longwood HS the School I played and coached at and for a HS kid he was huge. He was not very good but was recruited by Penn State because of his size. No he wasn't a monster at Penn St but he was recruited there due to his size and the coaching staff believing they can turn him into a football player which they made him better but not a great player. Yes Joe that is FACT
By danny on May 29, 2012 | Reply
SCfrmNY well said and exactly what I been trying to explain to Joe who due to knowing a few ppl thinks he knows it all and coaches are useless in the NFL LOL. Not only that he will try to belittle you to make u think what he says is correct and he is so off base with all his OPINIONS it cracks me up haha
By danny on May 29, 2012 | Reply
Joe if u read my earlier post I stated how Jimmy Johnson and other didn't have as much success after having succesful seasons because the teams they joined stunk as they fired there previous coach and maybe they improved the team but they did not have enough talent to win. There is no denying a coach needs talent but talent also needs good coaching to put the talent in situations to succeed and that is a known fact too Joe. Jimmy also losed his passion as he got older but everyone knows the biggest mistake the Cowboys made was get rid of Jimmy. Why is that Joe ???? Because he is a great coach Joe as he was at the U. Pete Carrol great college coach POOR NFL coach
By danny on May 29, 2012 | Reply
Joe as for TOM MOORE ummmmm he never came to practice until the last what 2 games if that. He said it himself he wasn't stepping on Shottys toes and we all know if he has been the OC from day 1 and not SHOTTY with his bonehead shifts and 3 yd hooks to Keller our Offense would have been more productive, With a injured Mangold, Slauson, Brandon Moore and with Wayne Hunter at RT we don't know how much more because Joe Montana couldn't be that succesful with that O LIne a mess but as i said Tom Moore was nothing to our Offense last yr it had SHOTTY written all over it
By danny on May 30, 2012 | Reply
Ron I agree 100 percent with everything u said and I'm also excited for Sparano. He's a in ur face kinda coach and our guys need that. He also wasn't succesful as a HC at Miami due to 0 QB's, 0 RB's and 0 Defense. Also as i have said before and plenty others agreed except for Joe " A lot of great Coordinators are not cut out to be Head Coach's. Not saying Sparano is one of them but he very well could be and just having a new mind in there and not Shotty makes me very very excited to see what we can do. Joe says our style can't win a SB but damnnn we came close twice to getting there and Shotty blew one of them. I think Stephen Hill is gonna help our vertical game too. Playaction is what suits MS best and we will see alot of it
By danny on May 30, 2012 | Reply
Hey Ron how about Michael Jordan the greatest B Ball player EVER but he runs a NBA team as bad as Isiah Thomas who was another great player but can't run a team or coach a team. Just because they were great players don't mean they know how to run a team or coach a team. As u said too I played with some great talents but we couldn't go on 2 because they would go offsides every single time haha
By joe on May 30, 2012 | Reply
Danny your missing the point in the NFL its a FANS FANTASY to think one coach knows more Xs and Os than another .At the NFL LEVEL they all know football The reason i bring up my buddys that played is the FACT THAT ITS THEM TELLING ME THIS My buddys that played have well over a hundred years of experiance in the league NONE of them have ever encountered a situation where one coach KNEW DRAMATICALLY MORE ABOUT FOOTBALL THAN ANOTHER (they played for Parcells Bellichick Fox
By joe on May 30, 2012 | Reply
In relation to the Jets IT DOESNT MATTER WHOS the HC or OC as its totally irrevelant in the overall goal of winning the SB The reason why its irrevelant is that theres no Qb HERE DANNY No coach or OC is going to be able to do ANYTHING to give Sanchez THE ability to compete with the TOM BRADYS of the NFL Sparano will run the ball better to help Sanchez manage the game better .Will that enable us to compete with teams that score 30 plus points a game not in a million years.The rule changes today MAKE WINNING the 80s way impossible .Rex knows this but hes in a bad situation because he and MIKE T MORGAGED everyhing on Sanchez
By joe on May 30, 2012 | Reply
DANNY the problem with this team ISNT COACHING ITS THE TALENT How can a coach be expected to win a superbowl playing against other teams with 3x the AMOUNT OF ALL STAR PLAYERS REX may act inappropriately but hes a VERY GOOD COACH Thats why iam saying untill we get a PRO BOWL LEVEL qb in here expect identical results to last year Sparano Moore ect
By joe on May 30, 2012 | Reply
Danny as far as SCHOTTY say he mismanaged the offence SO WHAT. WERE his mistakes COSTLY ENOUGH for us to compete with the GIANTS PATS PACKERS ECT Every game ewe played against NFL Elite last year we GOT BEAT UP BAD .
By ron alexander on May 31, 2012 | Reply
Joe, I agree with your point about most coaches having simular knowledge, but theres more to it than actual x's and o's. The ability to communicate that knowledge and get the player to buy into it is what seperates the good coaches from the average coaches. Rex has taken a defence with average talent at best and turned it into a well above average group. Now we need to find someone to do the same for our offence.Is Sparano the guy? Only time will tell?
I believe I can speak for Danny and most of the people who post on this blog that we are just fans who are hopeing this year can be successful. hey, if the 9-7 Giants can go on a run and win the Superbowl who's to say it cant be us? this year.
By joe on May 31, 2012 | Reply
Ron your forgetting one thing the GIANTS HAVE and we definately dont= AlOT MORE ALL PRO PLAYERS .The last time i check our QB WRS and half our defencive players are nowhere near thet the caliber of players that the Giants have (In refenence to our defence being well above average check both NE games last year and tell me how great our D was)Ron there is an EXTEMELY LARGE TALENT GAP between the true SB CONTENDERS and US Iam sorry no coach is going to make that up
By joe on May 31, 2012 | Reply
PS RON us AGAINST THE Giants other than Revis Mangold and Harris EXABTLY WHO do we have position for position thats better than them .AT the very most important position Qb THEY HAVE ONE OF THE BEST WE HAVE ONE OF THE WORST
By joe on May 31, 2012 | Reply
Ron a few months ago i saw an interview with STEELERS COACH MIKE TOMLIN Tomlin has one of the best winning percent in NFL HISTORY (ITS NEAR MIND BOGGLING )Tomlin freely admits HE DOESNT KNOW ANYMORE OR ANYLESS THAN ANY OTHER NFL COACH The reason hes where hes at is KEVIN COLBERT AND KEVIN COLBERT ONLY .Colbert drafts one pro bowler-HOF after another How can you not contend for the SB every year when you got 9 guys on the rooster with pro bowl experiance and 4 of them are going to the HALL OF FAME
By danny on May 31, 2012 | Reply
See Ron what u just said about coaching not just being X's and O's is exactly what I explained to Joe over and over and he refused to see my pt. Great coaches have the ability to bring the best out of a player and put them in situations to suceed. As I said with Belicheck he had DB's from the practice squad come in and play great on a few of his Superbowl runs because he brought the best out of those players and tailered his D to there strengths. See Ron u understand this because u have played the game and coached it. For someone who hasn't played they don't know what the difference between Coach's is. Mangini has a great football mind but he don;t have the personality to lead a football team as there HC but guys like BB or Parcells do
By danny on May 31, 2012 | Reply
Mangini coached with BB and was one of his guys so yes he knows what Bill Knows but he don;t know how to get his team to believe in it. As far as say a OC well some are better then others at calling plays in certian situations like when Shotty threw the ball on 1st, 2nd, 3rd then ran up the gut with LT for no gain in the AFC Championship game. He didn;t fool anyone but himself. Those 4 calls cost us the AFC title so a Coach is a very important piece on any level of the game. See i look at that goaline series with Shotty and say wow we score we were in the SB so no reason why we can't get back with MS under center and in his 4th yr the yr Eli proved guys like Joe wrong and won a SB. Everyone said he stinks and should not be a NFL QB
By danny on May 31, 2012 | Reply
MS was not in a good situation to improve as a QB last season. First his O line was dinged up and Wayne Hunter was downright awful. He had 2 selfish WR's in Plax and Holmes, Plax def lost a step. Due to the poor O line play we had no running game. We had Shotty the QB killer ' Drew Brees, Chad Pennington". There was no possible way MS could have improved his play last season. Well now he is in his 4th season, new WR talent, healthy O line and most of all a new OC. No reason why he can't have a great yr. I learned as a young boy watching pro sports that the Media LOVES u when u win and ABUSES you when u lose especially in NY. I never listen to anything the media says about a player and judge them by what they say like some do
By danny on May 31, 2012 | Reply
As far as competing with the Pats this same team beat them in the playoffs at the field 2 seasons ago. The Giants well we were dominating the 1st half until 3rd and long with Eli in his own end zone and he throws to Cruz who breaks 3 tackles for a 99yd score, Shotty called 58 passes that game yes 58 passes and we played poorly but still had a chance to win with under 3 min left in the game so yes we can compete with both of those teams and anyone else in the league especially with our D. Plus we added speed to our D this yr which was top 5 every yr REX coached them.
By danny on May 31, 2012 | Reply
Joe our Defense is way to good to allow 30 pts a game to anyone. A few times last season Eric Smith killed us but we are improved with Mo Wilk in his 2nd yr, Maybin 2nd yr with us, Scott dropped 20lbs, I like the rookie LB Davis, I love the Rookie Coples, I hope LaRon stays healthy and Bell is solid. We already know our corners are top in the league, David Harris is one of the best inside LB's in the NFL so yeah our D will keep us in games this yr no doubt about it and that is against the top ranked offense's. Do u agree Ron ???
By joe on Jun 1, 2012 | Reply
Danny (regarding all this talent you think we have )why only 3 pro bowl players on the rooster To put it in perspective NE has 9 GB has 9 Pitts has 8 NY Giants have 6 .The NFL NETWORK is running a show TOP PLAYERS OF 2012 .(THE RANKINGS ARE DONE BY NFL PLAYERS THEMSELVES )Again we got a few guys BUT NO WHERE NEAR THE NUMBERS THAT THE SB CONTENDERS HAVE WHY .
By joe on Jun 1, 2012 | Reply
Danny IF COACHING (HIRING OF SPARANO )MEANS SO MUny nonsence CH why then are THERE 25 TEAMS IN THE NATIONAL FOOTBALL LEAGUE FAVORED OVER US TO WIN THE SUPER BOWL Danny the experts arent too impressed with Sparano or the Jets in GENERAL Danny YOUR ONLY FOOLING YOURSELF .
By ron alexander on Jun 2, 2012 | Reply
Joe, its amazing how many non-facts you manage to spew out!Giants and jets have very simular talent as last years game proved. jets were in control until Cruz made a spectacular play which changed the game!Lets look a little further at where I'm going here; Giants A type players;manning,Cruz,Nix,Tuck,J.P.P(5)
Jets;Holmes,Keller,Ferguson,Mangold,Pouha,Harris,and Revis(7) next type B
Giants: Snee,Bradshaw,Boley,Osi,Webster,Thomas(if healthy)Roll,and Phillips.(8) Jets B players;Hill,Moore,SanchezGreen,Wilkerson,Coples,Pace,harris,Cromartie and Landry(if healthy)(9) So lets see, giants 5 type A,8 type B's
Jets 7 Type A's 9 type B's do the math Joe
By danny on Jun 2, 2012 | Reply
Joe at the start of last season what was the odds of the Gianys winning the SB ???? The Media was ripping them apart for letting Steve Smith go to the Eagles and Kevin Boss go to the Raiders. Joe at the start of last season our NY Jets with our 4 pro bowl players were projected SB contenders. What these experts and media think means absolutely NOTHING. We def have talent on our team Joe so I don't know what ur talking about. We have nice young Talent too
By danny on Jun 3, 2012 | Reply
Ron Joe is always throwing these false facts on here. He keeps saying 3 pro bowl players on our team and 8 on Giants ????? Name me 8 pro bowl players on the Giants Joe ???? For us well Brick, Mangold, Revis, David Harris, Brandon Moore and we have a SB MVP Santonio Homes, The Giants were a 9 – 7 team who caught A LOT of breaks to win SB I mean if Garret don't call a TO and ice his kicker and blow game the Giants don't make playoffs. If Romo don't over throw Miles down sideline vs Giants NO PLAYOFFS, If the Ref calls Cruz fumble against Cards NO PLAYOFFS. Now If Ted Ginn plays and rookie Wiiliams gets away from ball on Punt vs SF OUT of Playoffs. IF Welker catches easy pass Pats go up 2 scores with under 3 min left in SB. LUCKY
By danny on Jun 3, 2012 | Reply
Now the Giants did capitize on all these breaks so I give them credit but they were a 9 – 7 team not some dominating team. You watch just like after there LUCKY 07 SB they stunk for yrs after til this lucky season. Next season the Giants don't even make playoffs they finish 3rd in Div behind improved Dallas and Philly the better teams. Ron u gotta remember Joe is no wayyy a Jets fan so he just likes to throw out names thinking ppl will think he's something BIG in the Football world but like I said tons of times just by his posts on here anyone like us Ron who played the game can tell he don't know football.
By joe on Jun 3, 2012 | Reply
GUYRE TAKEN FRON THE NFL THESE FACTS ARE TAKEN FROM THE NFL NETWORK WE HAVE 3 PRO BOWL PLAYERS ON THE ROOSTER David Harris WAS AN ALTERNATE WHO MADE IT BECAUSE OTHERS DROPPED OUT THATS A FACT The GIANTS HAVE 6 PROBOWLERS ON THE ROOSTER Ron the NFL DOESNT RECOGNIZE THE RON Alex METHOD OF GRADING TALENT
By joe on Jun 3, 2012 | Reply
Another fact the GIANTS JUST WON THEIR SECOND SB IN HOW MANY YEARS WE are a 500 team THAT DID NOT BEAT A WINNING TEAM ALL YEAR .(WE CANT EVEN WIN THE DIVISION MUCH LESS THAN A SB )Guys why WERE WE voted number 6 in the MOST SNAKEBIT FRANCHISES IN FOOTBALL (43 YEARS OF LOSING THATS WHY )Danny EVERY POST YOU MAKE STARTS WITH If, WOULD HAVE ,COULD HAVE ,SHOULD HAVE, ALL THE ABOVE EXCUSES WILL NOT EVER CHANGE THE FACT that we LOST .(GOT IT DANNY WE LOST)
By joe on Jun 3, 2012 | Reply
Now moving on from last years train wreck to this years train wreck (COMING SHORTLY )Guys we just got SPARAANO we then ARE we ranked as ONE OF THE LONGSHOTS TO MAKE THE SB WHY GUYS .Also NFL NETWORK TOP 100 PLAYERS (RANKED BY THE PLAYERS )WHERE ARE ALL THE JETS The list is loaded with GIANTS ,STEELERS,PACKERS PATS ECT. ACCORDING TO YOU GUYS wAe got all these GREAT PLAYERS .Our record doesnt reflect that EITHER DOES THE VOTE OF OTHER PLAYERS -COACHES IN THE NFL
By joe on Jun 3, 2012 | Reply
ps REVIS MANGOLD BRICK TEBOW THATS ALL THAT MADE THE LIST GUYS .The GIANTS are going to wind up WITH 2X THAT AMOUNT WHEN ITS DONE .Ron i guess the ACTUAL NFL PLAYERS dont quite see it the way you do .Tune in the list is all GIANTS STEELERS PACKERS ECT
By ron alexander on Jun 4, 2012 | Reply
Joey,Joey,Joey! its amazing how little thought you put into what you say! Did it ever occur to you why those other teams had so many "pro-bowlers"? I'll give you a clue because you obviously dont have one; they won! If you win your players get to go to the pro-bowl. Hey, we didn't get the job done last year. In my opinion it was because our g.m did a terriable job putting a very flawed team on the field. One wide reciever, no r-tackle left us unable to run the ball or throw deep.Not even the threat of a deep pass enabled the defence to key on the run and blitz the Q.B. The turnovers that ensued put the defence in an impossiable situation. Hey I admit,we stunk last year.But this is a new season and inspite of Tannenbaum we appear improved.
By ron alexander on Jun 4, 2012 | Reply
Joe, Again you are correct.The N.F.L. does not go by what I say.However, if you actually took the time to objectively look at what I wrote you might actual have to agree with most of the assessments I made.Like it or not we do have a comparable amount of quality players as the Giants. Our best player Revis is at least as good as the Giants best(JPP?)Lets look posisition by posisition at wh might start if we combined the 2 teams :W.R ,NixGiants& CruzGiants& Holmes Jets tie.T.E.Keller(Jets) O.T'sFerguson-Jets &Dehl.Giants O.G's, Snee-Giants & Moore (Jets) Center Mangold(Jets) Q.B Manning. R.B-Greene-Bradshaw-tie,F.B,Hynoski-Connor -(Tie) So we have 5 Jets,3Giants and 3 ties. Next lets look at the defences:
By ron alexander on Jun 4, 2012 | Reply
Joe, Lets Compare defence: D.E"s Tuck& JPP over young Coples & Wilkerson
O.L.B's Pace-Thomas-Maybin vs. Kiwi & Boley= Tie. I.L.B Harris Jets (no Brainer there) C.B's Revis(Jets) over Webster,Cro(Jets)over Thomas. Safty's- Rolle & Phillips over any one we put out there(another no brainer) So we have 4 Giants 4 Jets ans 3 ties.So out 22 starters I feel the Jets have 9 starters,the G-men have 7 and the other posisitions would be even talent wise. Now do you see my point Joe? Even if you want to argue a couple of these the point is we are not as bad as you make us out to be!
By SCfromNY on Jun 4, 2012 | Reply
MOST IMPORTANT POSITION . . . QB. The Giants have Eli Manning and the Jets have 2 backup QBs. I will hope for improvement this year but I also hope to win Powerball. The other side of the argrument great players do not always translate to great teams. This is another area where excellent coaching maximize their talent.
Last years "dream team" impressed no one however as a Philly hater I think this year will be a different story.
By danny on Jun 4, 2012 | Reply
Ron trust me there is no talking to Joe he is a know it all well thinks he knows it all. Ron I have said the same thing to Joe the teams that win get most of the Pro bowl picks that is basic NFL knowledge. I can't even bother with any of this Joe stuff anymore he don't get that we all know we had a off yr that happens to a lot of good teams. Pitt wasn't that great last season, in 2009 AND 2010 NE lost there first playoff game at home getting pounded by the Ravens in 09 and our Jets in 2010. Wayne Hunter and Eric Smith cost us at least 2 games just by themselves so take them away and we win 10 games. We have a good football team and def just as good and I think better then 2009 and 2010. We added young speed so we have a shot.
By danny on Jun 4, 2012 | Reply
That's what fans do each season they get excited this could be the yr. Yes we have had plenty of let down seasons but I wouldn't root for the Giants or Pats over my Jets I'm a die hard fan and hope we will finally see that SB real soon. I do know we got a scrappy bunch under Rex and can play with any team in the league so Joe is so way off with all his Pro Bowl players and what the other players say. Everyone knows other teams dislike Rex and the Jets but u know they all fear coming into Jetlife Stadium including Joe's Steelers. Cmonn Ron J E T S Jets Jets Jets
By danny on Jun 4, 2012 | Reply
BTW Joe Brandon Moore was in the Pro bowl last season so as usual u are wrong we had 4 players in the pro bowl and harris was a alternate. If we finshed 10 – 6 Harris would have been too so 5 players in Pro Bowl. Jeezzzz Ron ur finally seeing what i been dealing with for weeks with Joe. Ii have to call him out cause all his negativity bashing my Jets and talking to ppl like he is a All Pro player and we are all fools. Joe don't get it he don't know Football and if he didn't act like he knows everything on here and everyone else is clueless I wouldn't say anything but since he does I LOVE calling him out when he is wrong HAHA
By ron alexander on Jun 5, 2012 | Reply
S.C.Joe, Excellent point,no question Eli is head and shoulders over Mark. However, Lets not forget Giants fans and even some people in the organization were ready to at least question whether he would ever be a franchise Q.B. His numbers were amazingly simular to Sanchez's until the fourth year(isn't this Mark's 4th year?) when Eli and the Giants beat the crap out of Tom Brady(twice) and won their first of 2 superbowls as a group. I can
understand you not lovin the guy but I think he's done enough to be given the opportunity to prove he is a solid starting Q.B in the league. Come on dude,back-up Q.B? How many back-ups go to two A.F.C Championship games?(espicially as rookies?
By ron alexander on Jun 5, 2012 | Reply
Danny, yeah, I know Joe is a little out there but I do get a kick out of him! He's o.k, I think he's just fed-up with not getting over the hump and so many disappointments. Ya gotta admit, he does provide a certian amount of comic relief. And inspite of some of his outragous opinions he does occassionally make sence. But moving on to more relevent topic's, i agree the team speed is gonna be a big plus this year. My big concern is the safty posisition? As Landry"s injury situation is a big concern and he is not known for his coverage ability anyway,and Bell is also known more for his hitting and tackling ability I have no idea how we are gonna be able to deal with Gronkowski or any of the top T.E's we face.We cant count on rookies ?
By SCfromNY on Jun 5, 2012 | Reply
This year will at least be an improvent in the safety position. Even Smith should be better since his injury has healed. Safety has become an important position. Note all the teams this year which hit their safeties with the franchise tag. The Jets must be somewhat confident Elam was still out there and they could have signed him. While not a fan of Sanchez I am more concerned with his demeanor in a game than his talent. He works hard, practice's hard, and puts in extra time unfortunately last year he appeared timid and rattled.
By ron alexander on Jun 6, 2012 | Reply
S.C.Joe, Yeah, no question he took a serious beating last year and that took its toal. But hopefully Sparano will find a way to protect him better. A big key will be the running game. If we can get that back up to speed it will take a lot of heat of Mark. The big question is who our R.T. will be? If its Hunter he has to do a lot better than last year. I am convinced Ducasse is a complete bust and cant imagine him makeing the team. So if its not Hunter one of the guys they signed last week better step up. I think they passed on Elam because he is simular to Bell and Landry in that he is better against the run than the pass. As for Smith he hasn't been the same since he got that concussion two years ago against Arizona. He seems tenative to


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