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(CNN) - Here's a new stab at a solution for that old fat-thumbs, small-phone problem: Turn your desk - or table or whatever - into a keyboard.
That's what Florian Kräutli demonstrates in a video called "Vibrative Virtual Keyboard," posted on Vimeo about a month ago. His unreleased virtual-keyboard software, which is making the rounds on design blogs like Fast Company's Co.DESIGN and designboom, lets him place his iPhone on a flat surface and then use the area in front of it to type.
"Touch screen devices, such as smartphones, lack a suitable method for text input which can compete with mechanical keyboards," Krautli is quoted as saying in a press release from Goldsmiths, University of London, where he is studying cognitive computing. "The Vibrative Virtual Keyboard aims to appease the frustration felt by smartphone users when faced with drafting lengthy e-mails or notes on a small onscreen keyboard." FULL POST
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(CNN) - By now, everyone knows computers can talk.
There's Hal. There's Watson. And, of course, there's Siri.
But never before have computers been able to talk for you, in your voice, and in a foreign language.
That's the technology - or a precursor to it - that Microsoft Research recently demonstrated at an event in China. The company's research arm on Thursday posted a video of the talk and a blog post about the technology behind it. FULL POST
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(CNN) - Forget Rick Moranis glasses, starchy button-ups and pocket protectors.
Meet the new generation at NASA: Bobak Ferdowsi, better known as "Mohawk Guy." Ferdowsi was spotted wearing a red-and-black mohawk with yellow stars dyed on the sides of his head during the U.S. space agency's overnight landing of its Mars rover, "Curiosity."
The Internet quickly turned him into a meme, superimposing text like "The Mohawk That Landed a Rover on Mars" and "Becomes an Internet sensation ... Too busy landing a robot on Mars to notice" over his images.
In case you'd forgotten, here's what the old guard at NASA looked like: FULL POST
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(CNN) - Watching the Olympics, which kick off in earnest Friday with the opening ceremony in London, is more fun when you know the stories behind the Games.
No doubt, sports broadcasters will hammer on plenty of rags-to-riches, against-the-odds backstories about the Olympic athletes. (You can also find plenty of them on CNN's London 2012 page). And that's all good. But knowing the technological underpinnings of the Games is perhaps just as intriguing.
Here's a quick look at 10 of the most interesting tech stories to watch at the London Olympics:
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(CNN) - The U.S. legal drinking age is 21. Should Facebook have the same requirement?
Plenty of people light-heartedly say the 900-million-person social network is "addictive," since so many of us spend hours a day checking up on what our Facebook friends are doing.
But following a Monday story about whether Facebook should allow children younger than 13 to join the site - since stats show they're on Facebook anyway and Facebook reportedly is considering implementing parental controls that could allow it to lower the minimum age - some of CNN's commenters fired back, saying that the minimum age should not be lowered.
In fact, they said, it should be raised.
"No. Flying Green Monkeys. No," commenter AnneV99 wrote in response to our question about whether 11-year-olds should be allowed to join Facebook. "In fact, raise the age limit to 21. Why? Because many parents and teachers are already teaching their children to be irresponsible. But what is Facebook - It is all about ME-ME-ME. Facebook = Sickness (but not as bad as that evil-Twitter thing)." FULL POST
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(CNN) - First Tupac. Now this.
The Port Authority of New York & New Jersey announced this week that digital projections of "virtual customer care representatives" will appear this summer in three New York-area airports, guiding flyers to their gates and providing other logistical info.
The 2-D projections can't respond to travelers who ask them questions, said Ron Marsico, a spokesman for the authority. But that kind of technology may be added if the 6-month pilot project goes well, he said in a phone interview. "We'll see if it works, you know," he said. "If people keep walkin' by it, then we wouldn't renew (the contract for the avatars)."
He added: "Maybe customers will feel more comfortable listening to an avatar than a live person." FULL POST
By John D. Sutter, CNN
Check out this video from CNN affiliate KGO, which profiles an app called SceneTap.
The gist is that the app works with surveillance cameras in bars to report the number of men and women who are at a watering hole at any given time - and their average ages. The upside: You could go to the bar that has the mix you're interested in. The downside, as an Electronic Frontier Foundation representative tells the station, is that this could cut down on privacy.
The app's creator says he doesn't store face-detection data - only the gender profiles of bar patrons.
Creepy or helpful? Let me know what you think in the comments.
By John D. Sutter, CNN
(CNN) - Facebook is trying to be the "forever network."
When the company's hoodie-wearing CEO, Mark Zuckerberg, announced a new feature called Timeline in September, he proclaimed that Facebook would be the website - or social network or app or whatever - to catalogue life from birth to death. The site even created a place for users to upload their baby photos, to signify the start of their Facebook lives.
This, of course, has happened in Internet history before. There was a time when tech pundits thought MySpace, Friendster and AltaVista would be around (and relevant) forever, too. But what's strange about Facebook's audacious birth-to-death claim is that, to many people, it didn't seem all that strange.
Maybe Facebook can last forever. Maybe, 901 million users later, it truly is something different. FULL POST


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LYONS: Stop the Ugliness for BuffaloPosted by on October 27, 2008 – 12:20 pm
Everyone has either watched or seen the advertisement for Ugly Betty. America Ferrera with her glasses and braces is like watching a football game with turnovers and mistakes — not the greatest thing for your stomach.
Remove it all and you have a beautiful actress and a team that can win any football game.
The Jets allowed Kansas City to believe that they could win the game with three turnovers by Brett Favre and a defense that made Tyler Thigpen think he was back at Coastal Carolina throwing one completion after another. Sometimes when you play a bad team, which Kansas City is, you play down a level and forget to take advantage of their weakness … rush defense.
Kansas City came into yesterday's game last in the NFL in rush defense, allowing over 200 yards per game. While the Jets finished the game with over 100 yards rushing on the afternoon, they only ran the ball nine times in the first half for 80 yards. And one of those runs was a 60-yard touchdown run by Leon Washington. Thank God for Leon Washington, he was outstanding.
Bottom line, it's hard to win in the NFL. The Jets did in Ugly Betty style, but getting ready for Buffalo, you'd better take the costume off, put your mouthpiece in and buckle your chinstrap. You might even want to do all that on the flight to Buffalo — if you wait for the game to start, that might be too late.
You thought Oakland was a hard place to play? Buffalo is even harder. The fans are loud and they're right on top of you and they do not like the Jets. The Bills are a physical team, so be ready. You're right in the mix of the AFC East at 4-3. A lot is riding on this game. Borrowing a line from the movie "Water Boy," "You can do it."
Buffalo is the last game of the first half of the '08 season, and 5-3 would be nice. Stop the Ugly Betty turnovers, protect the quarterback and believe that you can win. Believe …
Talk to you next week. Until then, live, love, laugh and be happy.
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By uncle joe on Oct 27, 2008 | Reply
And so we finish Phase 1 of our FOUR GAME WINNING STREAK!
By Ira on Oct 27, 2008 | Reply
I couldn't agree with you more about getting ready for Buffalo. Why don't you go talk to thsi players? And the best advice you gave live,love, laugh and be happy is the best. BTW It was great to see those players from the SB team. It brought back a lot of memories. Hope we can get to see that again sooner than later. It all starts this week. GO JETS!!!!
By MikeMc on Oct 27, 2008 | Reply
Marty, this might be our team , UGLY. We have talent & can win the close ugly ones if we limit turnovers & penalties. With Favre I'm not sure we can eliminate turnovers, therefore we might be a mediocre team at best, with a very slim outside chance. I wish it were different but my eyes don't lie & I refuse to blame the coaches, the players need to execute & play smarter.
By Jeremy on Oct 27, 2008 | Reply
We have one of the worst O & D Coordinators in the league! How do you make a game plan to let the All Time INT King, now for the year too! throw the ball 40 times when you could run the ball all day long and toss some play actions in the mix?? Sutton couldn't come up with a plan to get some pressure and make some turnovers?? This team is embarrassing to watch. Empty backfield on 3rd and short??
By Jeremy on Oct 27, 2008 | Reply
If it weren't for Leon this game was another Loss. Every year Mangini and his crew can't win a game convincingly that they are supposed to?? That tells me that the coaching staff and game plans are mediocre at best and they need GO! No turnovers on KC & Thigpin? You throw 2x as much as you run against the worst Run D in the league?? Until Sutton & Shotty leave this team is going nowhere fast!!
By mike ex jet fan on Oct 27, 2008 | Reply
I have the perfect point to make about our schemes.. U want proof on the ridiculous For any 1 paying attention That includes woody .. We used Brad smith 1 play every game so far right & what was it? a reverse… he gained 1 yard against the worst D in the league >> NEWS FLASH genius every team watches game film .. OH excuse me he had 1 incomplete pass this week.. Again unacceptable
By Kenny on Oct 27, 2008 | Reply
MANGINI needs to stop thinking about ON SIDE KICKS and put FAVRE under center and use the PLAY ACTION FAKE on EVRY play to hold the defense. Why is FARVE in the SHOT GUN every time he is going to pass? Being in the shot gun tells the "D" that u r going to PASS. If u put FARVE under center and PLAY ACTION FAKE every play then the "D" has to freeze. And the PLAY ACTION help s both the run & pass
By Dunnie on Oct 27, 2008 | Reply
Ok … we need to give Brett a permanent pass until the coaching and play calling improve. This guys is playing better than most QBs in the league right now … and he has no time to throw and is injured. Brett is awesome. If we end up 8-8 or worse … its time to change the coaching staff. At least the coordinators. I cant stand Sutton's calling. I say let VG play 10-20 snaps a game to learn.
By Bill on Oct 27, 2008 | Reply
For all u people that said let FARVE be FARVE & open up the offense, & let FARVE throw the ball. Now u see why u can't just open up the offense with FARVE. INTERCEPTIONS! Lets c if u still want to OPEN up the offense! Favre needs to be under center, using (PLAY ACTION FAKE) to help HOLD the defense. Not in the SHOT GUN for every pass play, so the defense knows that u r going to PASS, MANGINI!
By Frank on Oct 27, 2008 | Reply
Here it is in an nutshell the team is not responding to the coaching staff. There has been no improvement and the play is getting more sloppy each week. Receivers are not finishing their routes, O-line can't pass block Favre is taking a beating. The defense can't make a stop when one is needed and the secondary continues to give up big plays having hybrid LB's trying to cover people is ridiculous.
By Frank on Oct 27, 2008 | Reply
I'll keep saying it over and over again there is too much talent on this team that is being under utilized and not coached correctly. This team should be playing a lot better than they have shown. Case in study look at the Rams who were awful until they fired Linehan and they are signifcantly better now. Mangini and his coaching staff are still not getting it done the clock is now ticking.
By Patrick from PA on Oct 27, 2008 | Reply
I think it's about time Mangini relieves Sutton of his defensive play calling duties just like what Wade Phillips is doing in Dallas. Our secondary couldn't stop the 31st ranked pass offense in the league. It's pathetic and unacceptable.
By Ray on Oct 27, 2008 | Reply
MikeMc, I don't JUST blame the coaches either, but I definitely think they carry their share of the blame here. That was a horrible game plan. Ira made a good point about not having a TE, but we still had to make them at least think we were going to run. Even if it was the ugly 3 yards and a cloud of ground up tires. I miss Donnie Hendersons defense.
By jak,ex packer fan new jet fan on Oct 27, 2008 | Reply
good article marty. i enjoyed wathcing the sak exchange in the 80s. joe klecko looked just like my friend down the street who used to always make us play football on sunday when i was a kid in the 70s. go jets . we can beat bills.
By CFU on Oct 27, 2008 | Reply
For once I would love to see this team play awesome and have a solid season. Every year it's the same ole song why can't we improve like the G-men. This year we have yet to find our identity are we a passing team or a running team. We are more like we will let help the other team win team. I am sick of this sure I'm glad we won but do I really have to be so stressed out watching a game.GetridofOC.
By jak,ex packer fan new jet fan on Oct 27, 2008 | Reply
at times i think its the pressure to succeed[exspecially with new team n fans],that gets favre in trouble. its ok to punt or kick fg.against mediocre teams. but favre needs to play full throttle ,against the elite teams .lets hope the critcism doesnt curtail him.
By Ira on Oct 27, 2008 | Reply
Dunnie, Sorry man but Favre is being very careless with the ball. He should have never thrown that pass to Stuckey over the middle late in the game with a 4 point lead and Stuckey being double covered. You are right i believe he has been hurt since the Bengals game and contiues to get banged up. This team has lots of talent. They all need to get on the same page and come together for the Bills.
By Mike W on Oct 27, 2008 | Reply
All I have to say is stop blaming Brett Favre. He is only calling the plays he is told too. The past 3 games the play calling isn't disguised. Not only that Favre has no time to pass the ball. The offensive line needs to stand up and take pride in protecting a legend. He can't keep taking shots like he is. Take away Leon Washington and there is a big "L" for yesterday. Coaching staff, wake up
By OriginalJetFan on Oct 27, 2008 | Reply
It's game planning. How do you come off a week with 240 rushing yards, go against the worst run defense in the league and run 8 times in the 1st half. Look at 1968 in the brochure they gave out, Joe threw 5 interceptions twice in 3 games for losses, they dialed it back and pretty much swept the table from there with a balanced attack, where he threw NO TD passes for 5 games. Coach the Team ERIC
By BIG AL on Oct 27, 2008 | Reply
when in rome i liked your article but i disagree about the down play of the jets playing to a lower level because of kc's season they have played horrible from the start the one good game was against the cards something just aint right and the jets need to fix but i do agree the bills hate us and we are poised to stay in the hunt with a win they better strap the helmets and bring the battle axe
By BIG AL on Oct 27, 2008 | Reply
keep in mind guys the bills lost to the fins sunday and are going to want to make up that loss by making an example of theJETS the fins go to a banged up denver team and proved they are tough enough to play in the league with NE going to IND we have a chance to stay in the mix by slapping the bills hard in the face and make them remember who there playing and the bonehead plays need tostop JETSWIN
By supercooljetfan on Oct 27, 2008 | Reply
its hard to live,love,laugh, and be happy when your a jet fan
By CD on Oct 27, 2008 | Reply
I believe that pass over the middle to stuckey was catchable. Stuckey let up a little and allowed them to get better position for a catch, int.
By Howard on Oct 27, 2008 | Reply
marty(giving him the business down there)great article this team needs to wake up and figure out its game time buckle up those straps and hit some one instead of getting hit.its time for this d to put edwards on his butt,and knock lynch out of ny.this game can and should be won by the jets ,NOW LETS GO WIN A GAME
By Frank on Oct 27, 2008 | Reply
Ira do you remember last year vs. the Giants and Bengals wasn't that Chad throwing int's in the red zone when we had the lead late in the game? The common denominator is the coaching staff. They are responsible for the play calling and the game plan. We are watching the same garbage for 3 years it doesn't matter who the personnel are it all looks the same. Mangini and Co. aren't getting it done!
By Hogan on Oct 27, 2008 | Reply
I understand the pass happy O, without a blocking TE there was no way to not show what they were going to do. That being said the run stiill was OK so why not try. Farve is great but only one man, When he thinks it is all on him he gambles to much. Those last 2 int's were unexeptable. Any one else would be in jepordy of loseing the start. If we fall out of PO contention, I say play Ratliff.
By dhines on Oct 27, 2008 | Reply
I'm an ex-packer,new Jets fan and thank goodness everyone isn't blaming Brett for everything. I loved it though that Brett said he didn't blame the fans for booing!! I HATE it when he throws interceptions but I always know that he hates it even more than I ever could. He's not perfect but he's a good guy and he always tries really hard. Now if we could just beat the Bills this Sunday!! Go Jets
By Row on Oct 27, 2008 | Reply
I think Brad Smith should be the 3rd WR, he was clutch in the Oakland debacle. I also think the LB's need some coaching. It seems they are in a zone half the time. What happened to the blitz without a down lineman? Everyone knows we could have ran the ball, it was a judgment call. VG is always lining up down, he should be used. Miller and Lowery split time, Elam starts over Smith. Sit Chatman
By sal on Oct 27, 2008 | Reply
These game I hope were extended preseson games, practice routes and formations in real time, if not Im afraid the coaches may have lost there minds, and the players lost belief. I really dont think thats the case, well see this weekend
By jeffbiggestjetsfanalive on Oct 27, 2008 | Reply
why dont we use leon washington alot more than we do, he's fast, he's quick, and he breaks more tackles then jones. he's our best offensive and special teams player, he's a gamebreaker and he needs more touches. If we use him alot more in the running game, it'll open up our passing alot more and favre wont be throwing 3 picks a game….but hey a wins a win and this was a very ugly win. go jetsss
By Drew on Oct 27, 2008 | Reply
Wow Frank…..referencing the Rams to make your piont against Mangini. Come on now. Every team has a wake up and usually plays better for a few weeks after a coach is fired. Listen I cant defend the coaching staff any longer. They need to do a better job. Favre has got to do a better job with the ball though also. His redzone decsions have been awful 3 weeks in a row.
By mike on Oct 27, 2008 | Reply
Can't watch any more. Run the ball only 23 times against the worst run defense in the league. Shotgun on 3rd and 1. Not consistantly blitzing a very young QB. What are we trying to trick them with stupidity? Where's Gholston? Watch an old KC game when they had Neil Smith and Derrick Thomas, they used to put them together on either side and pressure one side. Try this with Gholston + Coleman
By Frank on Oct 27, 2008 | Reply
Drew tell that to 49er fans. Mangini needs to lighten up significantly start smiling and show the players he is not a robot. Emotion is good get the Italian genes going and blast someone everyone once in a while or give someone a hug…wake up the Belichick routine is old, boring and doesn't work unless Brady is your QB. Be like big Bill instead of little Bill. Radical changes or a new job looms!
By 80 Fan on Oct 28, 2008 | Reply
I've been going to games for 10 years.This year is the most boring year yet. The team has no emotion! The coach's CEO, monotone approach is killing the whole fabric of the Jets.I became a Jet fan because even at 1-15 they played with heart.I have not seen that under Mangini. In addition,the "game specific" plan is not working.Dump it or this will be a 7-9 season if we're lucky. Stupid idea anyway!
By Xavion on Oct 28, 2008 | Reply
I wish I could get 3hours with this coaching staff. We have way too much talent to let this go on like this We should be dominating teams like the chiefs. Why is Dustin Keller not being used the way he was meant to be used. They way everyone else is using thier TE or Slot wr against us. I didnt see the game But I can surely assume we didnt put pressure on the young QB this staff is to be blamed
By Ray on Oct 28, 2008 | Reply
I like Leon like everyone else, but he's not an every down back. If you use him too much he's not as effective. He's a change of pace and a third down back, he's not a 20+ touch, carry the load guy. We need to use TJ and Richardson more. Damien Woody can't pass block worth a crap, he has almost gotten Brett killed. Maybe he can still run block.
By phil said on Oct 28, 2008 | Reply
fired mangini and his staffs please and get another g m mr johnson called bill cowder or your team will be a lost causeand a bad team for many years to come plus alot of no show in the seats
By Chris C on Oct 28, 2008 | Reply
Can someone please talk to brian our o/c this really tick me off how we're in a shotgun on third and short situations it like were so predictable now! If you're gonna pay all that money to get a offensive line and we have tj running the ball then whats the point!!! thomas should get 20 carries per game period!
By Anthony on Oct 28, 2008 | Reply
Thank you Marty….This is what I say all the time…I want to see the jets cause HAVOC, unleash the beast that I know they are. I feel we need that type of emotion.. I as always am anxious for Sunday and I am really hoping to see us win this weekend. We have big names which really doesn't mean anything but lets raise the hell this team does on paper and show them we are not a paper team.
By mike ex jet fan on Oct 28, 2008 | Reply
Well favre haters .. Finally broke a record winning 3 games in a row which we were at a disadvantage in turnover statistics.. Randy has any other jet QB achieve this milestone ? No matter how bad he plays always gave us a better chance to win then chad .Any time chad played from behind or more turnovers then our opposition we lost .. So far bretts 3 0f 4 the those games .. Still want him back
By mike ex jet fan on Oct 28, 2008 | Reply
Cont, Favre ..Am I crazy is it possible mangini isn't letting Favre audible at the line cause sure seems to me he isn't .. making some checks maybe.. But that's it . If that's the case then I believe mangini's ego is bigger then the team ..Would be a big mistake… If favre is allowed to audible more often Opposing defences will back off blitzing.. Resulting in more time to work his magic
By Rob on Oct 28, 2008 | Reply
This team has so much potential, and everyone knows that. So stop being mediocre and start putting fear in teams facing us on both sides of the ball. Brian needs to slow the craftyness and rely on pure talent that we have. Throw a 30 yard pass on first play, but have a HB to pick up blitz. I think we can get real good…real fast…J-E-T-S.
By ny Jet on Oct 28, 2008 | Reply
Make no mistake about it our defense is mediocre and the offense is watered down. There is no creativity in the offense and our receivers can't get open against man coverage as we saw in the Oak game. Mangini is supposed to be a defensive guy I know they have sacks but how many 3 and outs do they force. Dominant defenses get off the field on 3rd down. This team scares no one right now.
By mike ex jet fan on Oct 28, 2008 | Reply
I like to direct these comments 2 our team .. Guy's!!! Adam Schein said I [Quote]buff has the better QB the better O-line & if we beat them he will wear #4 jersey all season .. This guy works a NY sports channel representing the Jets doesn't give us a shot ARE U GOING TO MAKE HIM EAT HIS WORDS OR WHAT!!!!!!!! GRRRRRRRR ..Strap the helmets on dig your heels in get this win …GET THAT RESPECT
By jets fan on Oct 28, 2008 | Reply
Our team has sooooooooo much potential and is sitting on soooooooo much talent. I would like to question the offensive coaches decision to take T.Jones basically out of the game, by hardly using him. Call me crazy but doesn't Kansas City have the leagues worst rushing defense. Instead of making them adjust and respond, our coaches did it for them by forcing the pass, time and time again.
By Troy on Oct 28, 2008 | Reply
This debacle is not Favre's fault , 1st off when your in a shotgun with 4 wr's and a 1 back the D knows your throwing(plus giving the fact our draw play out of the gun has never worked so the D not afraid of it)2nd when your spread out like that the opposing D is sending more people than we can block,inturn Favre has to get rid of it too quick if at all and most of the time if completed short of 1
By Troy on Oct 28, 2008 | Reply
cont… when 3rd and 4 from the KC 12 with a 4pt lead RUN THE DAMN ball if you dont get the 1st kick the FG and take a TD lead ,this is basic high school coaching, I just dont understand what this staff is thinking ,they will not win another game remaining if they continue to coach and gameplan like this. They need to show some emotion other than Favre when they score ,that starts at the top TOO..
By Wayne on Oct 29, 2008 | Reply
Does Woody Johnson watch the games Mangini & the rest of coaches have the wrong gameplans which don't utilize strengths against opponents. Every game they cost us points by making terrible calls. Our O line looks like crap.Where is the pass protection. Favre is always under constant pressure.We forgot how to use playaction.Regardless, the line is always getting beat.Our pass D needs alot of help
By nyjse on Oct 29, 2008 | Reply
Hey Marty, I'm all for ya calling Joe and Abdul and strapping things up before you take the trip to Buffalo. Bring some enthusiasm and passion to the team. Thanks but no thanks on Mark (there is an I in I) Neilson. Been a Jet fan since 1977. We miss the exchange. You guys were the best. Saw Joe Klecko on the island one night in the 1980s, kept saying "Pass me that Bird!"
By william smith on Oct 29, 2008 | Reply
Trot is "right-on" with comments. Brett needs more protection. Only a matter of time when he will not get up!!!
By JetFan62 on Oct 31, 2008 | Reply
Ugly doesn't capture the half of it – Sometimes it seems that Brett is the only one who really wants to win. I don't blame the players for this I think the game plans have been awful. It seems that two out of every three plays Brett is in the shotgun – there is no play action so teams just sit back on the pass. Seems the young coaches are stary eyed over Brett and forgotten the rest of the team
By Ben on Oct 31, 2008 | Reply
nyjse: don't be hating on Gastineau! He made some mistakes in his life but he was one hell of a football player!!! And from what I understand, he turned his life around so give him credit. Go Jets!
By Alan on Oct 31, 2008 | Reply
Hey Mart! Is it me or are the Jets missing an emotional leader?..I see no one on the sidelines slapping helmets when they are playing soft or got beat for a TD. I mean look at Ray lewis he's always in someone's face when they don't play at a certain level or when he sees his defense playing soft. Same goes for the offense.
By Ben on Oct 31, 2008 | Reply
And another thing nyjse: Who comes on here and bashes one of our ex-players, never mind a star for us for years??? I'm holding back so this gets posted but that's not cool man. No wonder why everyone thinks us Jets fans are such idiots, jeez.


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The US National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration has released its global temperature analysis for October, and – no surprise – the planet remains in a sultry mood. As NOAA explains, a bit dryly – no pun intended, and no offense meant to unfortunate Americans fleeing drought-crazed rabid skunks: "This is the 332nd …
> you should be writing this article in languages found in India
Wiki wisdom words:
-- "The official languages of the Republic of India are Standard Hindi (41% of the country speaks Standard Hindi or another Hindi dialect) and English. "
-- 2008 figures have Indian CO2 output as 1/3 of USA, Chinese 30% greater than USA (total figures, not per-capita)
But your underlying point is sound, that as the 6/7ths of the world that aren't members of the first world pursues a standard of living closer to ours we can expect resource consumption and pollution output to soar. Lowering our output isn't automatically futile: it can pioneer ways of achieving a given quality of life for a lower pollution output, develop technology sectors that may prove lucrative, and provide a nebulous moral example (weak, but without it we're even more screwed - imagine trying to persuade anyone else to reduce output if we're not attempting it too)
Beer icon because contemplating the future drives me to drink...
Re: and meanwhile
You really should have written this article 250 years ago when we started out industrial revolution. <rolls eyes>
Re: and meanwhile
I can' even see what it said so I have to assume it was a poor post (why else would he have deleted it?).
It's pretty easy to cherry pick out a few single years as warmer than some seemingly likewise cherry picked average as they seem to have done with the specified examples. Or, in the case of the UK, cooler than average (the UK being cooler would fit, for a time, with localised projections of global warming).
A single year being above or below average means little. It's the long term trend that's important. The data is preliminary, so we'll have to wait and see what it really adds to the long term picture I suppose.
@ Mike Hock
Strange, I found the headline "October global temps above average for 332nd straight month" quite easy to understand.
Re: @ Mike Hock
You miss the point. I'm waiting to see what this really adds to the long term picture. Not a day, a week, a month comparision, but long term global averages and how it adjusts them in the context of AGW. Not hard to understand.
Re: @ Mike Hock
Oops, " long term global averages" should be 'long term annual global averages'
I agree
This is more likely a weather pattern, even 30 years would sill more likely be weather and not climate. From the raging climate debate, there doesn't seem to be any agreement on the dividing line between weather and climate (if there is any.) Until the Climate Science field can get away from popular science and to something approaching the rigor of the physical sciences there is no reason to use it for the foundations of decisions that can cost trillions of dollars and lower the standards of living for the entire globe.
Note: It's also fairly easy to get the results you want when the data are being adjusted periodically so that the older data shows lower temperatures than were actually recorded years ago. (We know this is being done because old written records do not match the data online with NASA.) The adjustment of online versions of archived temperatures without explanation makes newer charts useless for scientific purposes but perfect for political purposes.
Re: I agree
"We know this is being done because old written records do not match the data online with NASA"
Have you tried graphing it and comparing it? There's no significant difference between NASA's data 20 years ago and the same data today, except of course that there is 20 additional years of data.
Re: I agree
is that the nasa data that was demonstrated to be bollocks cos they had the altitude and position of their kit all wrong?
or some other reliable nasa data?
just askin
Re: I agree
"Have you tried graphing it and comparing it? There's no significant difference between NASA's data 20 years ago and the same data today, except of course that there is 20 additional years of data."
20 years isn't climate, it's weather. The Weather Service has data going back to the 1800s and the older data has been manipulated several times over the last decade. Note: I'm referring to the historically climate network not satellite data which does not show warming.
What is really interesting is that people will go on-line now and pull down the currently posted data and assume it has remained the same since it was put on-line. It should but it hasn't. NASA is applying corrections retroactively to archived. In my mine this is intellectually questionable.
Re: I agree
"The Weather Service has data going back to the 1800s and the older data has been manipulated several times over the last decade. Note: I'm referring to the historically climate network not satellite data which does not show warming."
Satellite data shows warming too. Surface data. Satellite data. Land data. Ocean data. All show warming.
The older data from the Weather Service shows warming too.
@Mike Hock - trend?
"A single year being above or below average means little. It's the long term trend that's important"
I would think that 27 straight years compared to a 100-year average counts as a trend
Above average over 133 years - not exactly a long time over the lifespan of life on the planet. And as we now, many of the measuring stations are poorly sited, in now built up areas for instance.
of course
There have been many periods in our planet's past when we would have found life if not impossible very nearly so (think mountains striking the earth at km/sec). Yes in the past the earth may well have been completely covered in glaciers or much hotter than even the worst prediction we will encounter but self aware life as delicate as us was certainly not around.
@ Rufus McDufus
You make a valid point, not only valid, but a clearly obvious point..
Why didn't the equally obvious point that others, especially those responsible for measuring, would also think of it occur to you before you typed your comment?
Re: of course
As for the urban island being the cause myth. http://berkeleyearth.org/results-summary/
You must not have gotten the memo that BEST study shot that down and you need to move on to your next bs excuse.
that's a shame, cos i was thinking of relocating to the Indian ocean off the coast of Somalia, but from what you suggest, the place is teeming with new cities, so the commute to work will still be a nightmare. guess ill relocate to northern Europe where the population density is clearly so much lower.
I'd suggest you do relocate off shore of Somalia. Just make sure you have plenty of friends at home with FITFY MILLION DOLLARS ($50,000,000), to depsoit for your safe release.
My exact thought
Is this corrected for measurement site location 'cause Climategate data was not (as picked by the Russians who analyzed it).
Let's take South Eastern Europe. This year is supposedly one of the hottest for South Eastern Europe.
Based on my own recollections it was hot, but not much hotter than: 1979 and 1987. In 1987 the temperature hit the 30-es in May, 40-es in June, remained in the 40-es until end of July and stayed in the 30-es range till October (same as this year). There were a couple of very hot years in the early 1990-es too (before South-Eastern Europe going wet and miserable towards the decade end).
If you look at met station locations - in 1987 the measurements locations in the largest South Eastern European cities - Sofia, Bucharest, Belgrade, etc were all in the suburbs or on the city border. Example - data for Sofia comes from the met-office at 8km on the E80 motorway. That was where the city ended in 1987. It is now 5km further down that road with 10+ times the traffic down the motorway. This should skew the data by at least several degrees. The other location is the airport which once again was outside the built up area up to the early 80-es. Bucharest - same story. Belgrade - same story. Ohrid - same story. And so on.
So is this showing heating or urbanization (or both)?
Bloody good hoax
Bloody good hoax this AGW thingy, isn't it?
Average temprerature increases every month for getting on for 28 years. How do they do it?
Re: Bloody good hoax
How do you get people to believe for 2000 years in a Jewish carpenter born to a virgin becoming a zombie? Presentation is everything.
Re: Bloody good hoax
Little irrelevant things like facts are not for the but I feel it in my gut but I have faith crowd.
Re: Bloody good hoax
category confusion again. Read it in current english. Definitely not zombie. Folklore of the time had all sorts of creepy horrors so writers were at pains to differentiate the appearances.
Re: Bloody good hoax
yeah right - and if there is a temperature hockey stick where are the Ulrikakaaakkaaa's in hockey skirts?
Or Michael Fish?
Re: Bloody good hoax
But theres evidence for a 2000 year old jewish carpenter - wood!
Re: Bloody good hoax
"Bloody good hoax this AGW thingy, isn't it? Average temprerature increases every month for getting on for 28 years. How do they do it?"
Are you seriously suggesting that 28 years of data is enough to prove AGW?
meanwhile in the Antipodes
I simply don't trust the yanks figures. Satellites sensors that show the Great Lakes boiling sometimes fail to encourage confidence. We had a bloody cold winter for last 2 years. cooler than average winter with an average spring. this year. Not that the cool winters are in the NOAA map. The thermopocalypse lovers predictions keep getting put off for another 100 years. I spot a trend !
I suppose AGW will be blamed for the ice advancing into Scandanavia. Oh, wait, it already has been blamed for the extra ice in Antarctic Ocean. Oz icebreaker stuck for weeks. If the ice-agers are right, at least there will be undeniable evidence by 2020.
Antipodes also warming
Antarctic ice overall is reducing, mass being lost inland on the continent. The ice sheet advancing slightly further into the ocean is partly due to atmospheric disturbance from that lovely ozone hole we have down here, partly due to where that inland ice is going.
It's all quite complicated, but the up-shot is that there is just as much warming down here. (The atmosphere and oceans mix over time.)
Re: meanwhile in the Antipodes
"Satellites sensors that show the Great Lakes boiling sometimes fail to encourage confidence."
Satellite sensors sometimes fail?! wow that's a surprise.
Wasn't it fortunate that said sensors were never used in any global warming records? Oh you didn't know that did you. Because your climate skeptic sources made sure to not mention it so they could mislead you into losing confidence in the records.
"We had a bloody cold winter for last 2 years. cooler than average winter with an average spring. this year. Not that the cool winters are in the NOAA map."
Oh look they are.
Another climate skeptic caught making up their own facts.
Re: meanwhile in the Antipodes
ooh we are hot, aren't we ? Never said outliers were used, but then with the track record of the IPCC and its camp followers, nothing would surprise me. Not locally cooler in the two maps I saw. agree some areas are warmer. Just like real weather.
As for sat sensors, are they are regularly recalibrated ? CSIRO do ground truthing of some kind , but that covers how much of those projections and for what ? vegetation and soil moisture, fine. temperatures being more volatile are a different matter.
No, more a skeptic in genera, l noting official statements do not match my observations. I know that is now heresy, but tough.
"Being an average, of course, some places were cooler than others". There. Fixed that for you. A place is not a 'geography' unless you're a biology.
News just in...
"Tuesday was the wettest day last week", say scientists.
I don't get this at all. We have the met office publishing data that shows no warming for 17 years, and this lot saying all the polar bears are on fire.
Is it any wonder climate "science" is widely viewed as a joke, a refuge for the 2nd and 3rd raters who couldn't get a job in a real science like reflexology or aromatherapy?
I'm putting together a clubbing holiday - a seal clubbing holiday. With hockey sticks. Any takers?
"I don't get this at all. We have the met office publishing data that shows no warming for 17 years, and this lot saying all the polar bears are on fire."
Data and projections for 23 different countries can be found here:
Met Office general observations for the UK:
1) There has been warming over the UK since 1960 with greater warming in summer than winter.
2) Since 1960 there has been a decreasing trend in the frequency of cool nights and cool days and an increasing trend in the frequency of warm nights and warm days.
3) There has been a general increase in summer temperatures averaged over the country as a result of human influence on climate, making the occurrence of warm summer temperatures more frequent and cold summer temperatures less frequent.
Further, "For the A1B emissions scenario the UK is projected to experience temperature increases of up to around 3°C in the south and 2.5°C further north. The agreement between models is moderate in the south of the UK and low further north."
Are you hard of understanding?
"There has been a general increase in summer temperatures averaged over the country as a result of human influence on climate..."
Bullshit. There's no evidence for that assertion and you know it. When someone proves a detectable human signature in the climate it'll be the science discovery of all time. Hasn't happened yet.
"Further, "For the A1B emissions scenario the UK is projected to experience..."
"Scenario". "Projected". In other words, more computer modelling fantasy nonsense, not actual real science.
Do you not understand that computer models of barely understood chaotic systems that require thousands of initial condition parameters, many of which are simply guessed at, are nothing more than expensive digital masturbation? When someone creates a model that can hindcast, then I might not immediately dismiss computer modelling of the climate out-of-hand as bullshit.
Warming since 1960? By what - a fraction of a degree? Big deal, let's run for the hills. I take it you're one of these cretins that denies the medieval warm period and all the other times in Earth's history when it was significantly warmer than today?
Re: Are you hard of understanding?
""Bullshit. There's no evidence for that assertion and you know it. When someone proves a detectable human signature in the climate it'll be the science discovery of all time. Hasn't happened yet.""
You're firing blanks. Here's why: No point replying to me. All that is quoted from the Met Office.
"Do you not understand that computer models of barely understood chaotic systems that require thousands of initial condition parameters"
I do. But like I say, all the text in my post is quoted from the Met Office - They are not my words. Had you actually followed the link you would not have wasted your time by replying to me.
I would suggest that you share your intellect with the Met Office meterologists who are responsible for each and every word of my post and then come back and let us know how you get on.
Re: Are you hard of understanding?
"cretins that denies the medieval warm period"
Before you resort to childish behaviour and name calling, had you actually taken the time to look at some of my older posts you would realise just how silly you sound.
As for the name calling i.e. 'cretin', now that you are aware of the facts behind my post - every one of which you could have discerned for yourself had you the sense and had you not been so eager to emit your whining, I would suggest that you now look in the mirror.
It always pays to at least do a little reading before you gob off.
I should also have noted at the end of my above post, that some science (can't get the link right now, but Reading University and other perhaps more illustrious sources) state that global warming will, in essence and due to a shift of the jet stream, cause the UK to (on average) cool for a period. e.g. More cold, dry winters.
If the jet stream meander persists, then the proposition of much colder weather, in and around the UK, could be further compounded if the north Atlantic oscillation/conveyor system weakens or breaks down (due to increased sea water temps and reduction in salinity from northern ice sheet melt) - a very chilling prospect indeed. However, it is worth pointing out that the planets natural state is global aridity without snow caps at either pole. As has been said, global time for these systems, is, relatively, very, very slow indeed. But, then again, we are apparently due another glacial period in northern Europe and such periods are heralded by warming spells. So, are we adding to global warming with our industry/consumption, in such a way as to postpone the arrival of glaciation, or, are we in a period of pre-glacial warming ? It's scary either way for the generations to come and I hope their adaptability enables sufficient numbers to survive and prosper in a sustainable manner. Either way, human population is probably about to peak in the next 100-200 years. A combination of global systems, our own perverse behavior, towards each other and the planet, disease, famine, water shortages and war, will almost certainly then be major causes of a dramatic decline in human population. Perhaps we we will take all this amassed date with us and no one will be the wiser. Or perhaps we might struggle on and learn that even if our foot hold on this rocky place is at best tenuous, it's worth indulging in some good house keeping while we are here. I mean, even if you are only going to sit down for a picnic for a short time, it's jolly good practice to tidy up when you leave the beauty spot and go home.
If you can't link a source, then don't mention it.
Source, so we can review, or don't bother.
I have read, also that, in average, most of Europe is colder now than has been since the middle ages.. sorry I can't find a source, please disregard my above comment.
Who's normal for what's normal?
Temps have been below normal, for 500 years, too...
They pick where they take temps, and declare what falls within 'normal'...
Making sure it doesn't negate their political bias...
and poof! it's normal
NOAA's arc
No thermometer left behind?
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As they say, "Invention is the mother of necessity." I created this recipe because I had a package of stew meat that needed to be used before the package date. I spotted the ginger beer in the fridge and rest is history. This stew has a delicious sweet-tangy flavor. It's nice to have a little different way to serve an inexpensive meal.—Leslie Simms, Sherman Oaks, California
6 Servings
Prep: 20 min. Cook: 7 hours
2 pounds beef stew meat
1 bottle (12 ounces) ginger beer
1 can (12 ounces) ginger ale
1/4 cup teriyaki sauce
2 garlic cloves, minced
2 tablespoons sesame seeds
2 tablespoons cornstarch
2 tablespoons cold water
2 cups frozen peas, thawed
Hot cooked rice, optional
In a large nonstick skillet, brown beef in batches if necessary.
Transfer to a 3-qt. slow cooker.
In a small bowl, combine the ginger beer, teriyaki sauce, garlic and
sesame seeds; pour over beef. Cover and cook on low for 6-8 hours or
until meat is tender.
In a small bowl, combine cornstarch and cold water until smooth;
gradually stir into stew. Stir in peas. Cover and cook on high for 1
hour or until gravy is thickened. Serve with rice if desired. Yield:
8 servings.
Nutritional Facts:
1 cup stew (calculated without rice) equals 310 calories, 12 g fat (4 g saturated fat), 94 mg cholesterol, 528 mg sodium,
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RUB must haves and must avoids?
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- david sprague Mar 13, 2008 01:36 PM
Trying to put together a small (ish) buffet for some friends, using RUB's takeout. I personally love their ribs, but was hoping to solicit opinions for must adds -- and must avoids -- in both meat and side categories. Thanks!
BBQ Bacon Chunks (not healthy), Pulled pork, and BBQ boneless ribs.
Can you tell I am a fan of pork!
Pulled pork, brisket and burnt ends are the best of the lot. Poultry turns out dry. Onion strings are always super greasy, but I always get them as a side anyway. Bacon chunks would convert Osama bin Laden to Christianity.
re: kelea
Second the Deep Fried oreos,pulled pork and burnt ends. Adding the baked beans and grab some Shiner Bock beer as well!
their burnt ends used to be good but the quality has really suffered at rub. theyre incredibly gristly these days. their pulled pork is still solid but heavy, their bbq chicken is surprisingly moist and good.
the only side i like is their baked beans which happen to be the best in the city if you ask me.
these days, i think the quality is at hill country for bbq
re: nativeNYer
I was thinking the same thing as I read this thread. RUB just isn't all that great...
LOVE the beef rib at Daisy Mae's and the sides are generally better than RUBs.
re: nativeNYer
I lived up the street from both RUB and Daisy Mae's at various points and had the chance to try each many times. I really think the pork and sides are superior at RUB. But the beef rib, which Ora mentions, is indeed fantastic at Daisy Mae's.
another vote for the pulled pork.
brisket was good, if you like lean cut, but there's better in the city.
re: LloydG
The beans are amazing! I almost forgot about those. Some of the best baked beans I've ever had.
The BBQ bacon chunks mentioned above are out of this world. And perfect finger food. You don't have to get too much of those because they're so rich (and yes, fatty), they fill you up quick.
oh yeah...those baked beans..on fridays i walk acrosss 23rd on my way to penn station and pick up a container to bring on the train..the aroma is a big hit and they are increible..i'm addicted
Love the burnt ends and the beans! The beans are the smokiest I've ever had; thick and laced with chunks of burnt end pieces. The ends themselves are amazing; tender and suprememly smoky with a wicked crust (although as one poster said, they can be a bit too gristly at times). The brisket and ham are pretty good, but the last time I was there, they were a bit dry. The turkey doesn't do it for me and I've always found the pulled pork to be mushy. Never tried the ribs. The potato salad is pretty darn tasty and the onion (straws?) are wicked good, but I avoid them as I really don't need to be eating that, however much my stomach tries to talk me into it.
St. Louis ribs, burnt ends, pulled pork. Smoked and fried Buffalo wings. Onions, mayo slaw. Hear good things about the beans but never tried.
I usually love RUB but I ordered my favs this weekend and it was pretty terrible. Burnt ends and the baked beans. Half the burnt ends were chunks of fat with no meat at all. The baked beans were runny and in the past I have loved the chunks of pork in the beans but this time, it was again fatty chunks. I had to keep picking out chunks of fat from the beans... pretty gross.
re: bussy26
Think it was a fluke. I did takeout tonight and it all tasted close spec.
Maybe not as perfect as past trips but still great!
re: sugartoof
They can be unreliable. I used to order on a weekly basis, and sometimes the food would be how bussy described. But when RUB is good, it's really, really good.


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Nitin Reddy (born March 30 in Hyderabad), more popularly known as Nitin, is a Tollywood film actor. His father N. Sudhakar Reddy is a popular film distributor and a producer in Nizam area. He acted in hit films like Jayam, Dil, and Sye.
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Nitin started his career with the senational hit Jayam in 2002.
In 2003, his career got a bigger boost with hit film Dil directed by V.V. Vinayak. Later in 2003, Nitin delivered his first flop, Sambaram.
In 2004, Nitin starred in Sri Anjaneyam, which was another bigger boost for Nitin and director Krishna Vamsi
From 2005 to 2006, all his films , a bigger boost with hit films(Dhairyam,Allari Bullodu, and Raam) His next upcoming film will be Satyam Shivam Sundaram with Meera Chopra.
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He discontinued his Engineering Degree from shadan college in mechanical branch and came into films. His role model in acting is Pawan Kalyan.
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Symantec swoops on Messagelabs
Symantec is to buy the British messaging security firm MessageLabs for $695m in cash. The company will merge MessageLabs with its own Symantec Protection Network for a more comprehensive software-as-a-service offering. This will incorporate Symantec technology in data loss prevention, compliance, endpoint security and archiving …
Bad News
What a shame.
I've used ML for years and they've been brilliant. Great service, great response and excellent product.
Now they're part of Symantec I'm waiting for the usual crap service, crap response and lack of security.
A Sad day for IT.
Oh Great
Another good product about to go to the dogs due to being bought out by a company full of numpties.
Anyone know of another company that does the same job as MessageLabs for when my contract with them runs out? (And not McAfee!)
Agree with above posters...
Real shame. Implemented MessageLabs at three companies of various sizes - including using their sister ISP Star.
Amazingly good service. Helpfuly and knowledgable staff (including helpdesk), superb reliability and does exactly what it says on the tin.
Very sad news that a company like Symantec is going to destroy what used to be a fantastic security provider.
Makes me sad
That I've only just renewed our ML subscription for another year.
Also had somebody on the phone yesterday pushing Googles "Google Message Security for Enterprise" service which sounds similar.
maybe i'm being pedantic but surely the following is untrue
"Symantec is to buy the British messaging security firm MessageLabs for $695m in cash."
What do they do roll up to a lloyds and make a small withdrawal???? and with Symantec being yanks thats a lot of commission on changing to GBP!
Oh, and yes i think this sucks too.....
OH Poo
Atm we have a damn good service with great spam blocking, with fantastic support.. Thank you Messagelabs.
Odviously someone far away has pulled a giant Chain and MessageLabs as we know it is in a whirpool going towards the other Symantec crap.
Our service levels are going to go the same way as last nights curry.......
Of course I could be dreaming all of this....*pinch*OUCH.....maybe not then
What would th BOFH do................
Advice for Symantec
IMO the best thing Symantec can do is to leave the MessageLabs team in situ and provide them with all the necessary info about the suites of products they already have under their control. MessageLabs are a great organisation with a service that is second-to-none and Symantec are a software company with a very broad range of security products, some of which could be cherry-picked and modified to operate within the MessageLabs service (AND NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND).
Oh Great does this mean...
Does this mean that messagelabs...
• Will be installed as a free trial on all new PCs that we buy from now on,
• Be incompatible in really subtle ways with just about any other product, service or system ever conceived or ever to be conceived,
• Will stop all future development on the useful aspects of their products they presently offer and double their efforts in developing pointless add-ons that break things in fiendish ways and just make life for us admins a complete pig
• Will rebrand everything in that gopping symantec day glo yellow that signifies the piss in piss poor service
• Will be a complete arse to remove if we choose to discontinue service meaning that we have to format all our machine's hard drives to get them to work correctly
• Will drag the performance of our computers and their email and internet systems down to that of a broken 486SX regardless of the age of the hardware and software we are using
• Will make all the really easy to use aspects of their service really confusing and rename all their products every year with names that have no relation to the products functions.
Another happy ML user
Soon to be cheesed off, I suspect.
Remarkable unity of opinion on this issue.
Paris because i am told she sucks as well.
Re: Oh Great
Postini perhaps? Although... they're part of the Googleplex now. Alternatively, take that back in-house with an email appliance from anyone but Symantec?
Oh cock.
I've been a very happy MessageLabs customer for just under a year having escaped to them from a similar but truly woeful F-Prot service. The renewal invoice is sitting on my desk at the moment and is going to be very carefully considered. I've already been looking at Barracuda...
Dont agree with above.
A lot of the ML services already utilise best of breed items, some from Symantec. From what I have heard, they are purchasing the MessageLabs culture not the company. We all have used Symantec and their support and products on a personal level and they arent great, but most of these items reflect the Norton name not Symantec as a company. I personally think that they have a lot to learn from companies like MessageLabs and giving MessageLabs the funding will allow MessageLabs to consistently develop the brand.
Its not all as bad as it seems. Just hope that they keep the hard working dedicated staff and not switch to one of those yanky "have a nice day" scripted support centres.
Who knows, we should at least give them a chance to prove the critics wrong?!
Symantec's letter to its own hosted email customers
http://tinyurl.com/4x984c makes for an interesting read
Yes well... another quality startup will be ruined...
Symantec is a very big software company, as you write. You forgot to mention that it is also a very crap software company.
We all remember the fantastic Norton Utilities and Norton Antivirus, that made our computers run better in the 80s and 90s. Since bought by Symantec, the product quality has come crashing downwards. It's a shame that software giants find it impossible to focus on what people actually want. And if Norton was not bundled with a trillion computers in stores, no-one would buy it at all.
It's a damn shame.
Wohooo! :(
the list goes on and on.....
Symantec sure love eating up companies, getting rid of the bits they don't like (conflicts with existing product/not profitable enough), slow development to a crawl and milk the cash cow till it's dry.
RIP MessageLabs
Best wishes for a peaceful end with your other fallen brothers. Your death at the hand of your adoptive father was definitely regrettable, the only question is whether it was accidental.
Second the general opinion
My company has been using ML for years, but I had no relationship with them until a year ago or so. Unlike the other global providers I've dealt with (all of them big multinational conglomerates) ML has always delivered its service with exceptional quality, always have been suggesting improvements even if they were not going to benefit their bottom line and have been generally very, very easy to work with.
I feel bad for ML going the way of Norton... in three years, Symantec managed to turn the "Norton" brand from a respected product line into something that everybody was trying to avoid at all costs,
Begging for a buyer...
They've been begging for someone to buy them for years, so now we're all saved from some of the pointless PR we've seen pushed and even appear on El Reg. Less money than what they were asking, I believe. The analyst call mentions that *some* staff will be safe, but c'mon - all cash means they want the tech not the people.. Most of the stuff they added as new products was not their own - and some of those products are now owned by competitors and resold by them.
I should add we were a relatively happy customer using IM and such like - however their first stab at web was an utter flop and still has teething problems. The assumption was that it was cobbled together just to keep up. IM didn't have an update for years and just lacks every function you'd want. It's nice having features, but they lag behind in many ways when it comes to anything but email.
Jack of all trades, master of one.
Not good news at all
I use both Symantec's security services and Message Labs. The former is a bunch of hopeless muppets who cause me levels of despair that cannot be matched by pretty much anyone. The latter have provided a constant and consistent service for all the years we have used them.
Despite what anyone might say, its clear the appalling service ethos that is central to Symantec will filter down to Message Labs, probably in the form of stupid replacement management.
Oh happy day
I am surprised....
with all of the comments above....
MessageLabs Global Tech Support is based in New York not the UK and generally have a reasonably average record of support.
Secondly the powers that be have been trying to sell the company for years - it was only a matter of time before they did. Don't get all bleary eyed and feel that this is a big shock, there was talk of this two years ago http://www.ferris.com/?p=316838
a long time coming..
Well that wasn't a surprise. I've been waiting for an announcement like that for 2 years now. We were with ML for a good few years but switched to Blackspider (now Websense Hosted Mail) 3 years back.
At the time we switched, the ML product worked well but Blackspider had a better web management console for fine tuning your settings. When we switched, ML did not have a management console worth looking at. In all our meetings with ML, the only thing they could say was an improved management console was on it's way.
Our personal opinion in 2005 was that ML were trying to sell out and cutting development costs whereas Blackspider and Postini were throwing money at their products.
So we waited and waited for ML to improve. Each year we entertained Postini and ML to present their improved products and still we stayed with Blackspider.
Finally ML produced a front end that could take on Blackspider and we saw it demoed in early 2008. Apart from email branding, you could do most of the adjustments that Postini and Blackspider can do. However they were the most expensive on price so Blackspider wins at the moment.
It's not been so smooth with Blackspider. At the start it was direct phone calls to the engineer in Reading if you had a problem. That disapeared when SurfControl bought them out. Support has got slower since Websense has bought SurfControl but the online service has improved as SurfControl was not helping the product.
We like Postini and it matches what Blackspider offers on features and price but we need to see Blackspider really mess up to force us to move again.
I wonder if the ML staff will have to move to Green park in Reading. At least Green park doesn't flood unlike Gloucester. What will happen to Star? Do they still share a building with ML?
Anyone have any opinion on Postini apart from "It's owned by Google"?
For those looking elsewhere...
...the level of tech support from Sophos has always impressed me greatly!
What about Star
@Nick Woodruffe
Used to work at Star a few years ago. Star are mostly in a separate building to Messagelabs, with just a few things like overall Messagelabs Group functions being at the Messagelabs offices a couple of miles from Star's Gloucester Offices.
I'm interested to find out how this will affect Star and the Messagelabs employees. The company was excellent to work for, and although lacking a Google style environment/benefits, it was a company that did what it could for their employees. I hope Symantec keep Messagelabs as is...
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'You've had your fun. Now we want the stuff back'
This was the week when Britain discovered that its spooks were either seriously inept or specialising in some sort of double-bluff, Pink Panther-style posturing to throw everyone off the real scent. This feast of spoof spying was kicked off when the bit of the UK police force that helps its intelligence agencies decided to …
no jurisdiction over it.
In other news, Google has said that a privacy lawsuit brought by Brit Safari users over the firm's slurp of their browsing data shouldn't be bothered with because UK courts have "no jurisdiction" over it.
So this must work both ways then; so I could hack and abuse Google and UK government will take no action because its out of their jurisdiction. Thus US government has no right to ask for suspect in wiki-leaks or anything else.
Be careful what you ask for Google.
Re: no jurisdiction over it.
You don't understand, do you? Other governments have jurisdictions, other governments have treaties, other governments respect international laws (or at least pretend to).
The US government doesn't have to bother about any of that nonsense. Because it is THE WORLD GOVERNMENT. US courts have jurisdiction everywhere. US agents can arrest people anywhere, take them anywhere, torture and kill them anywhere. And US drones can kill anyone they like, anywhere, anytime - along with the nearest few dozen bystanders.
There's absolutely nothing new here; it's the essence of human nature, and hence of history. One of the most famous parallels dates back 2430 years:
Athenian: "For ourselves, we shall not trouble you with specious pretenses—either of how we have a right to our empire because we overthrew the Mede, or are now attacking you because of wrong that you have done us—and make a long speech which would not be believed; and in return we hope that you, instead of thinking to influence us by saying that you did not join the Spartans, although their colonists, or that you have done us no wrong, will aim at what is feasible, holding in view the real sentiments of us both; since you know as well as we do that right, as the world goes, is only in question between equals in power, while the strong do what they can and the weak suffer what they must".
Melians: "You may be sure that we are as well aware as you of the difficulty of contending against your power and fortune, unless the terms be equal. But we trust that the gods may grant us fortune as good as yours, since we are just men fighting against unjust, and that what we want in power will be made up by the alliance of the Lacedaemonians, who are bound, if only for very shame, to come to the aid of their kindred. Our confidence, therefore, after all is not so utterly irrational."
Athenian: "Of the gods we believe, and of men we know, that by a necessary law of their nature they rule wherever they can. And it is not as if we were the first to make this law, or to act upon it when made: we found it existing before us, and shall leave it to exist forever after us; all we do is to make use of it, knowing that you and everybody else, having the same power as we have, would do the same as we do".
- The Melian Dialogue - Thucydides ("Peloponnesian War")
Re: no jurisdiction over it.
'Miranda David' surely? It said they were partners. Or did they mean business partners? Or is there a perversion angle to this as well?
Re: no jurisdiction over it.
The US government doesn't have to bother about any of that nonsense. Because it is THE WORLD GOVERNMENT. US courts have jurisdiction everywhere.
You know, you ought to really cut down on Hollywood movies. Microsoft already discovered that the world isn't *THAT* willing to have sovereignty usurped by the US - Google is very hard at work to trigger a SERIOUS backlash, more or less amplifying what is already happening due to the NSA revelations.
Personally, I am rather amused that said backlash is finally hitting US companies where it matters: in their profits. It's about time.
The Google stuff...
Makes me realise that I'd really like to see a European technology company be a viable alternative to the chocolate factory. I know Google has by far the dominant position in search, online advertising, mobile operating systems and right up there in email, but I don't trust them anymore. The fact that all the other big tech companies are American means that any alternatives have the same privacy implications - that you're being watched.
Surely there's got to be a European company that could knock-up a decent webmail or search engine.
Re: The Google stuff...
https://ixquick.com/ for the search engine. Can't help you with webmail.
Re: The Google stuff...
..and your problem, down voter, would be what exactly? If there is a security problem, I would be incredibly interested.
The more I have read about the Miranda case, the more I think the Guardian have badly fumbled the ball on this one. I'm wholly onside re: the grave dangers from mass surveillance and I think these have not yet been understood by the general public. There was a major opportunity to ace the government. But it is very much looking as though Miranda was carrying the classified information. We need to keep a sense of proportion and stay attuned to the subtleties here. If Miranda was carrying the information it was a grave misstep. He is not a journalist. As much as mass surveillance is a danger, there is still such a thing as sensitive classified data. It is not necessarily possible for journalists, who lack context to understand what is sensitive or even life threatening and what is not. Seemingly innocuous information might be of great interest to a foreign power or enemy and context is required to judge this. But for a journalist with access to such data who is holding government accountable, to allow a non-newspaper-employee, no mater how trusted, to have access to that information, is a grave misstep and highly irresponsible. The Guardian and Greenwald need to think about the meaning of the name on their masthead.
"He is not a journalist"
In the world of blogs and Twitter it is less and less relevant to have 'officially designated' journalists. Freedom of speech should be for all, and journalists should not have specia protections that other people don't (or rather, everyone should have the same protections that journalists have)
"who lack context to understand what is sensitive or even life threatening and what is not"
I'm f***ing sick of this bulls**t being regurgitated by the government and security services. Stop treating people like children. Citizens have a right to know what governments are doing in their name, and they have a right to privacy. And if that results in a world where the chance of dying in a terror attack is 1 in a million instead of 1 in 20 million*, then bring it on.
Why the hell are we spending so much money and resources financing organisations like the NSA and GCHQ etc etc to curtail our freedoms and privacy with odds like those, when the odds of dying in a car crash are so much shorter? Why are we willing to put up with government documents being classified secret and top secret when all they contain is stuff that could embarass people in power (as most of manning's diplomatic cable leaks). Why do people in power think that "National Security" = "Protecting the people in power", when in reality they can easily be either replaced by someone else?
I accept that we need organisations such as NSA etc for REAL cases of national security, but REAL national security = prevention of war and preventing violent coup d'etat. Anti-Terrorism is a civil protection / police issue.
*time.com, chance of dying in a terrorist attack in the United States from 2007 to 2011
A wife suspects her husband Frank of having an affair with Jill. The man goes on a business trip promising his wife he won't be with Jill. You are a work colleague who sits next to frank's desk. Unbeknown to you Frank's wife is phoning the office to check up on him. You can see his schedule and innocently remark "he's on a business trip to x, He and Jill have a meeting with the chief executive." See why context matters and why, when you lack it, problems can be caused? But no you don't see that, because you're "f***ing sick of this bulls**t being regurgitated by the government and security services." and because of that you're happy to proclaim because there is several container loads of bathwater that need to be thrown out, there can be no baby in there. Only problem is, if a secret document detailing x met with y is released, you don't have the context so don't have a f**king clue if that screws an international supply agreement, throws distrust into the advancement of a peace treaty or endangers the life of an agent (they do exist and they are sometimes risking their lives). You seem to be assuming all stored secret intelligence is bullshit the government is using to control the people (otherwise how can you claim to sufficiently understand the totality of context)
"Citizens have a right to know what governments are doing in their name, and they have a right to privacy. And if that results in a world where the chance of dying in a terror attack is 1 in a million instead of 1 in 20 million*, then bring it on."
Couldn't agree more, though do you think that means we should have no intelligence services, or that they can have no secrets? Do you think they are never tracking actual terrorists? And if they are, how exactly are they to operate if they can keep nothing secret? (Again is there no baby in that bathwater?)
"In the world of blogs and Twitter it is less and less relevant to have 'officially designated' journalists."
True, but does that then mean you just pick whoever you want to share "working in the public interest secret data with?" And if it turns out someone you share data with isn't working in the public interest, do you just shrug your shoulders and say "f**k it, I wasn't to know." How do you responsibly look after the data if you are a news organisation, by sharing it wives, boyfriend's girlfriend's? Do confidentiality agreements signed as part of your employment mean nothing?
Look none if this is to say Miranda was bad, to be distrusted or should have been harassed, but it is to say by not adhering to highest professional standards, the Guardian have dropped what would otherwise have been a clear catch, which is a shame. They have also screwed up around the story on the HDD destruction, revising it several times.
I can actually see a lot of common ground here. Like I said, I do see the scope of national security organisations doing national security stuff. But they shouldn't be doing blanket intercepts, they shouldn't be invading people's privacy and they should be working very strictly under the scrutiny of a judiciary who know what the hell they are doing and actively push back against unreasonable requests.
That way the spooks have little in the way of masses of data that can be leaked in the first place, and if the people working for the spooks can clearly see that there is no abuse going on, there is less incentive for leaks to happen. NSA-type agencies need to be severely scaled down, and get their budget diverted to do actual real-live police and detective work, which is how most terrorists are caught in the first place.
I don't intend to throw the baby out of the bathwater - rather I think there is a situation where there's one real baby in the bathwater, but the governement agencies claim there are a hundred babies, they need a bigger bathtub and lots and lots more water. Throw out the made-up babies, get rid of the excess bathwater and focus on the core stuff.
Now, I also know that we live in an imperfect world, and humans are going to screw up. By definition, security services will never get it 100% right. So do I want to live in a world where security services are going to stomp down on 100 innocents to get 1 bad guy, or do I want to live in a world where people's private lives are respected, security services are not allowed to do whatever they please, and the occasional bomb goes off? Much as I regret that innocents will occasionally get killed, I prefer the latter because that will take society gradually on a path away from violence and terror, while the former stokes an endless war by continually creating new enemies.
Incidentally, 9/11 could have been stopped by existing FBI knowledge without needing additional patriot act powers.
>"Only problem is, if a secret document detailing x met with y is released, you don't have the context so don't have a f**king clue if that screws an international supply agreement, throws distrust into the advancement of a peace treaty or endangers the life of an agent"
Oooh, FUD. Nice try, but anyone with a brain knows that the issue isn't some hypothetical beneficial state acting in our interests, but accountability for a class of actors who have proven time and again not to be trustworthy - or to be acting in our interests.
For those who care to read it, the history of corruption and law breaking by so-called elected Western governments is long and not particularly inspiring. From dodgy contracts to equally dodgy dealings with very important friends in countries with brutally oppressive regimes, there are bad things happening every day, and none of them have to do with our brave boys facing down nasty terroristses in a country we - er - invaded for reasons that make no sense and have never been explained properly.
>"Do you think they are never tracking actual terrorists?"
I don't know. You tell us. What proportion of leads are 'actual terrorists', and what proportion are people on a secret service shit list for purely political reasons - such as climate camp protesters, union activists, followers of Occupy, and people who post on the Register with views that annoy those in power?
>"True, but does that then mean you just pick whoever you want to share "working in the public interest secret data with?"
Yes, that's exactly what it means. Discussions about the public interest should be public, with as much information shared as possible and 'public interest secrecy' an exception with well-defined, known and agreed criteria - not the 'Of course you can trust us, so take our word for it' default.
Because - newsflash - no one who has said that has *ever* been trustworthy, or genuinely acting in the public interest.
While we're at it, let's add policy oversight by members of the public.
This is sometimes called 'Democracy.' You might want to read up about it.
It appears that issues of the Grauniad including Snowden-originated revelations (or Wikileaks') are also classified. How about that?
Consent of the governed requires information
To add one more point to your excellent post, if you believe our governments derive their just power from the consent of the governed, keep in mind that consent is not valid without information. Misinformation and lack of information render the consent of the governed impossible.
No passwords = jail
If so, the terrorists have won.
Re: No passwords = jail
Yes, refusing to hand over your passwords when asked is a crime in the UK.
Re: No passwords = jail
Yes, under UK law (RIPA section 49) refusal to provide an encryption key (or indeed just failure to provide an encryption key, when the officer "has reason to believe the key is in your posession") is an offense which carries a custodial sentence. The UK does not have a 5th amendment, we are fully expected and indeed required by law to incriminate ourselves, and do not have the right to remain silent :)
Should you end up in possession of encrypted data to which you do not have the key, and are in or passing through UK held territory, you had better hope you can convince the authorities that you honestly cannot decrypt it for them. I suspect the only way you'll be able to do that is to provide another name or names of people they can get access to, and tell them those people are in posession of the key(s).
Depending on who you talk to, they may put forward the suggestion that the terrorists are winning so easily because they are in fact working for the authorities, providing them the excuse to erode yet more of our civil liberties. It seems the current crop may have taken 1984 to be a handbook, rather than a warning :'(
Re: No passwords = jail
A good password to another encrypted partition one does NOT have access to is a classic counter to this. They can still drug or torture you, of course, but you can't reveal what you don't know.
1) Don't forget that the UK has a long tradition of intercepting Brazilians. Miranda should consider his good fortune that he hadn't just got on a tube train.
2) What does "extremely unavailable" mean Mr Kutchner?
Hasn't anyone noticed...?
"You've had your fun. Now we want the stuff back."
back? Back?? BACK???
So the UK government - supposedly, our government - wants BACK stuff that unquestionably belongs to the US government.
Just consider the implications of THAT for a while.
Being in an airport and not knowing the exact contents of your luggage, including digital media, is a quick way to get stopped as a suspected mule.
Ahh Julian...that would be MS. Manning from now on please.
"And top Wikileaker Julian Assange sees the case having the opposite effect to what the government is hoping for:
Mr Manning's treatment has been intended to send a signal to people of conscience in the US government who might seek to bring wrongdoing to light...."
It's not what you know, . . .
I could believe that some middle ranking - Inspector, Chief Inspector - watch commander at Heathrow deciding to pull Miranda off his / her own bat. Among other things, that is probably what they are paid for.
What I do find difficult to believe is this same middle ranking police officer being in a position to phone up No. 10 and the White House just to let David and Barack know what he is going to do.
After all, this was a purely operational matter for the police, wasn't it ?
Chris Cosgrove
Sounds like the anti-terrorist police are playing 'softly-softly' these days...
...after all, they found a Brazilian and all they did was question him, rather than carrying out a summary execution in public.
Re: Sounds like the anti-terrorist police are playing 'softly-softly' these days...
Maybe that's a secret new offence: "Travelling while Brazilian".
"...there is now no private way, evidently, to collaborate."
Seems like a trivial algorithm step to implement.
The encrypted email will, perhaps, be eventually decoded. So don't put any actual secret info in the encrypted email. The encrypted email contains only a time sensitive link and key to a place and time somewhere on the infinitely large 'net. If the email is eventually cracked open a month later, it's too late. This 'net space must be sufficiently large to defy recording. The secret message content can be distributed over the 'net such that chance recording is voided. Existing realtime streams (e.g. BBC) can be used to hash the info.
This conceptual technique is just a tiny part of a necessary much larger system.
End result is that decoding an email much later becomes useless unless one records the entire 'net space.
Isn't it yet understood that algorithms can eventually be invented to accomplish *any* goal? Including defeating the latest NSA approach of recording 'everything' for posterity?
The Guardian should simply ...
leak the location of the cable tapping operation in the Middle East.
That will teach Cameron a lesson about threatening newspapers.
I wonder if Americans apreciate the "Miranda" irony.
The card US cops are meant to read out (anything you say may be used in evidence against you etc etc) used to be called "Miranderising" because it was failure to notify another suspect called Miranda that caused it to be introduced.
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