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Does anyone agree with the statement above?
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All living creatures, including humans, are the way they are because of adaptation through natural selection. Desmond Morris has written many interesting books on human evolution, explaining why women have evolved one way and men another. Richard Dawkins, the most eminent living Darwinian biologist, stresses that evolution does not necessarily make creatures "better." Mankind is not gradually evolving towards perfection, towards the creation of Superman and Superwoman. Man is just adapting to changing conditions for the sake of survival and reproduction. It is interesting to see how girls and boys, women and men, have evolved in different ways over thousands of generations of Homo sapiens. It is also interesting to speculate about how they might change in the future. But they will probably always need each other, and so they ought to try to get along with each other. Like, the fundamental things apply as time goes by.
And why?
Most comments show women being different from men. If we look at a Third World country where women die more often in childbirth than men and where women are not allowed to be educated, do we then say that men are better than women? I don't think that we can say who is better or worse based on effects that are societal more than they are innate to one sex or the other.
I think that women and men are different in some ways and that there should be no value judgements attached to the differences that do exist.
I had a sexist, gender conscious, male-hating female principal who would probably agree with your statements. She believed that male teachers were only good for coaching (boys' teams but not girls' teams) and handling male-oriented classes like shop, agriculture and auto mechanics. She maintained different rules for male and female teachers, and she represented the worst aspects of a school administrator. Your simplistic idea that boys are inferior to girls is a type of reverse-discrimination that used to be prevalent in the minds of men. I try to live by the dictum that all "people" are created equal, and try to treat all my students--black, white, male and female--fairly. I would agree, however, that female students are more serious than the boys I have taught over the years, and girls have consistently earned higher marks in my English classes. Of course, I have also witnessed an increase in female "macho" attitudes, and misbehavior in the classroom and physical altercations are now more likely to come from female students than males.
men are naturally stronger than men..women are strong when they are pregnant.. men can endure more..women are naturally flexible, both men and women are knowledgable..im not sexist...men are naturally stronger whereas women are quite weak but strong at times
No, I do not think the statement is true. There are certainly difference between men and women, but these differences don't make one better than the other. Women might be naturally better at some things, but men are naturally better at other things. For instance, men and women think differently. Women are better at multi-tasking because they can think about many different things at once. Men tend to focus on one thing at a time. This makes men better than women at focusing on a single task. Women have trouble only thinking about one thing. Their minds tend to wander to other topics even while working. I think men and women each have their strengths, but one sex is not inherently better than the other.
I, also, cannot agree with the statement. Men and women are simply too different to be judged in that way. Think about it this way: apples and oranges are both fruit (in the same way men and women are human beings). Unfortunately, the two simply cannot be judged against each other given their genetic differences. Any "suggestions" made would simply be too subjective.
Men and women are made for each other. If some one can prove that human race can survive without the other, I would vote for the survivor to be better.
Five Reasons Girls Are Better Than Boys 5. Girls perform better at school Girls are more likely to achieve higher grades than boys at GCSE and A-level. Among the suggested explanations for this disparity is the tendency for girls to mature earlier than boys, and therefore to be easier to teach. Adolescence for girls usually begins at age 12, whereas boys start to mature, on average, two years later at age 14. Boys are also more prone to hyperactivity (ADD) and dyslexia, which may affect their performance in school. Are girls better than boys? What's your view? Join the discussion on our message board! 4. Women live longer UK life expectancy figures have increased dramatically over the past century (men and women born in 1901 were only expected to reach the ages of 48 and 51.6 respectively). But the gap separating the sexes still remains prominent. Figures for 2008 show life expectancy for men to be 77.2 years, while the average woman can expect to live until she is 81.5. Men are also much more likely to commit suicide: three-quarters of the suicides in 2007 were committed by men. This has been blamed on social expectations for men not to verbalise their emotions. 3. Women make better citizens In the UK, women make up less than 6 per cent of the total prison population (2005 statistics).
It has been argued that the substantial gap between the number of male and female prisoners exists because judges show greater leniency towards female offenders in order to avoid separating mothers from children. Yet the nature of the crimes committed by women—the most common are shop-lifting, fraud and drug offences—differ from those committed by men, and suggest that female offenders pose less threat to public safety. More on Encarta• Top 10 Natural Remedies• 10 Things You Didn't Know About Chocolate• How Does Your Sat Nav Work? 2. Women are safer drivers Contrary to the popular stereotype, women are in fact safer drivers than men. In 2006 an overwhelming majority, 97 per cent, of motorists convicted of dangerous driving were male. While women are more likely to make low-level mistakes, such as stalling at a junction, men are prone to taking greater and more life-threatening risks, such as drink-driving or speeding. 1. Women are more cooperative How the different genders interact with others has been the focal point of repeated studies, and most have shown that women are less competitive and focus more on cooperation than men. In one study held in 2007 participants played "The Prisoner's Dilemma," a game where contestants must choose between the desire to be selfish and the need for compromise. (The premise of the game is that you and your partner in crime are arrested for stealing a painting, which is spattered with blood.
If you both stay silent and cooperate, you will both serve short jail sentences for theft. If you inform and accuse your partner of murder, you will get away scot-free. If, however, you and your partner inform on each other, you will both serve long jail-sentences.) Women consistently chose to cooperate with each other, thereby achieving higher payoffs than men. Even in situations of stress, women appear to react in a more cooperative manner. Brain scans of 16 men and 16 women put in situations of moderate tension showed that bloodflow in women's brains increased in the limbic area, the part of the brain associated with a nurturing and friendly response. Men's bloodflow, meanwhile, increased in the area of the brain responsible for the "flight and fight" reaction.
I agree that GIRLS are better than boys
On a lighter note I would like to present the statistics of the first 16 posts on the discussion topic:
Posts to describe the topic: 2 (Post #1 & 2), by female
Posts deleted: 3 (Post # 3, 4 & 5), by female, single person
Average lines per post: Less than 8 (Post # 6, 7, 8, 11 & 12) by male
Average lines per post: More than 11 (Post # 9, 10, 13, 14, 15 & 16) by female, last 4 by a single person
So what would you decide on the basis of above statistics Suvetha?
Men and women are equal because God has created all of us in his image
They are more than equal! Don't ask me - just think about it.
yes, I think so.
just without WHY... ^_^
We are all flexible, impressionable, breakable humans. We are the product of our experiences and background.
For thousands of years women were oppressed into being 'mothers', 'sex objects' 'cooks' and 'cleaners' because men were physically stronger and you got a proper smack if you talked back or tried to challenge that. But try to understand that, in a lesser way, men were also the victims of this social construction. Boys were forced to grow up into the role of being 'insensitive', 'strong', 'bullet-proof' and 'emotionless'. This was not a healthy role for either of us.
Now western women, unlike many places in the world, have an opportunity to be equal.
DON'T make the mistake of trying to 'win' the war of the sexes. We are all lost and confused people trying to understand who we are and what is happening. Western men have started to learn how to offer women an equal society. Let's work together. Men need to reposition themselves as well as women. And it won't happen if women repeat the mistakes from male-dominated history.
They both also have different neuroanatomic structure and that makes men to have better motor abilities, whereas women have better linguistic abilities.
men are better at throwing something to target ; women are better at putting items into same-shaped holes properly
women can attend their attention to more than one different audiotory stimuli at the same time
men can find their ways easier; this might be because they have better visuospatial abilities
of course sex hormones, lifestyle or cultural issues may cause some of these
The post 30 by Caglatekeli gives some of the factors that make them 'more than equal' because 'they have been created like that in view of the believers' and 'have evolved like that in view of the evolutionists'.
Men & women and boys & girls have to play their distinct role in the society due to difference in their sex hormones and the capabilities of the neural & sensory systems. Pushing them to perform same role does not seem to be fair.
The post 30 by Caglatekeli gives some of the factors that make them 'more than equal' because 'they have been created like that in view of the believers' and 'have evolved like that in view of the evolutionists'.
Men & women and boys & girls have to play their distinct role in the society due to difference in their sex hormones and the capabilities of the neural & sensory systems. Pushing them to perform same role does not seem to be fair.
you are right...i agree with you..and i have been observing u in some of the discussions and found that ur thoughts are wide and accurate answer to the topic and i heartly appreciate u ..some of the jobs done by girls cannot be done by boys and vice versa.. so in some case they are equal but in some occassions one is better than the other and differ in scoring in each fields. so seeing girls are great than boys is not nice..mutal dependence can leads to growth of society and differentaiting girls and boys is simply wasting of time...and try to find the merrits of opposite sexes and respect each other thats the conclusion arrived by me .....
Personally, I think that boys are better than girls.
1. Girls have too many problems.
2. Boys work more.
1. Girls are more attractive
2. They are nice and helpful.
Interestingly women are described as the weaker vessel in the bible, and complement to men.(pretty cool, huh?) But I have to say times have changed women - they have to do many of the things men do. They are no longer just the pretty face. And no I don't agree that statement, there are wonderful things about both genders that can be appreciated.
"God made men before women because every good creation needs a rough copy" just thought it was funny..
I don't think women are betters than men but different in creation. Sure women can do things better than men and men can do other things better than women. Some can do both but I think they sholud not be compared.
In reply to 36:
"God made men before women because every good creation needs a rough copy" - francy17
Masterpieces do not need a rough copy, just look at the 'Taj Mahal' - and God is The Master, The Creator.
And why?
Girls are better than boys in some areas. This is what I learned in my introductory sociology class. For an example: Girls are better at English than boys are. Boys are better at math than girls are.
There is something naive about this assertion. First, you separate humans by their gender difference, then ask if they are different. Two wise quotations to share:
1. A difference that makes no difference is no difference (this is germane to social equality questions)
2. No taxonomies are innocent (in other words, a person who starts dividing people by gender has a motive in mind.) Wordprof
These days you can notice that Women are a bit smarter than men. but men can cook as women some times more than women too ..................
But they were both created for each other so both of them are equal
I believe that both genders have equal strengths and weaknesses. It cannot be claimed that any one is superior to the other, because superiority in regards to humanity cannot and should not be quantified.
In reply to 36:
"God made men before women because every good creation needs a rough copy" - francy17
Masterpieces do not need a rough copy, just look at the 'Taj Mahal' - and God is The Master, The Creator.
I agree with you that god does not need to make rough copies cause everything he thinks of is prefect. That quote was just a joke, I use it on my guy friends..
As for the Taj Mahal... Think about all the rough copies that were skecthed in order to come up with the best design of the Taj Mahal. What is now the Taj Mahal is simply the best that humans could come up with.
Youn are absolutely right what you said responding to the question "Can we discuss, girls are better than boys". I would like to thank for your wonderful ideas on this issue.
Guys have more muscular bodies. but some girls doo too. Girls have a lot more clothes they can wear. Like girls have permission to wear revealing clothes. I am a guy but i think we are pretty equal. I believe it is said tjhat girls are a lot more focused, more mature, and even smarter. But guys are stronger both physically and mentally. and for guys, nothing is better tan seeing them in revealing clothes like a bikini, crop top, and tank tops. for girls, nothing is better than seeing a guy with a unbottoned shirt with a shredded 8 pack, Thats me, lol, But still i think we are equal in more ways that others feel :)
Being a female, my first instict would be to say ABSOLUTLY!! But in reality, men and women have areas of strength and areas of flaw. Women seem to be better at the more meaningful things in life such as cooking, cleaning, taking care of the kids, organizing, and the list goes on. That doesn't mean that men can't do those things but it seems that women dominate over men in those areas. When it comes to sports and things in that area, men happen to know everything possible because they find it interesting to them. Women know more about shopping, interior designing, children, and more because it is interesting to them. I don't believe that men are better than women or visaversa. Each gender has things that they are strong in and weak in.
men are naturally better tan womwen are because they can do more then women can but women can also were high heels make up and trie to look nice and men dont really care because there more focussed on whats in front of them.
Your post just reminded me of this quote.. Girls improve their looks not their mind, because they know guys are stupid, not blind. lol
I don't agree with it 100% but it's kinda funny when you know someone who lives by that rule. :D
kinda sexist if u say girls are better than boys or boys are better than girls.
at the end of the day we are just human.
And why?
Hai piya lets be frank...... In my opinion both boy and girl are unique and they have their own importance......A girl cannot do all the things which are done by a boy..... and a boy cannot do all the things are done by a girl....For example a boy cannot give birth to a baby and a girl cannot handle multiple responsiblities like a boy all the time......
I do not agree with the statement. Many girls I know seek the company of boys for strictly platonic relationships because they are so sick of the grudge bearing and bitchiness of their own gender.
I do not agree with the statement. Although many may argue that women are equally competent as their male counter parts and some may even go on to the extents of saying that they are better than men or vice-versa. However, the fact remains that the two sexes cannot be judged on the same levels simply for the both men and women are different in many ways, the most basics itself, such as their anatomy and the psychology. Besides, comparisons can only be made among equals( by this i mean both the compared should have the same starting line i.e. they should initially be similar to each other in regards with financial background, physical and mental level, and they should have similar education and upbringing,without discrimination of any sort). Secondly, the comparison could only be made on the same fields i.e. both the compared should either be judged on academics or sports or some other acitviy of which both are part of( for example a sports person cannot be compared with some musician or a scientist if u do so then the comparison is baseless). And so far there has been no such common grounds on which the two sexes could be judged since they are simply different from each other.
It is perhaps not possible for one to state who is superior than whom both are creations of god --- the good God created us all !!!!!!!!!!!
Men and women are made for each other. If some one can prove that human race can survive without the other, I would vote for the survivor to be better.
I completely agreee with you !!!
The Quran makes it clear that Women and Men are equal in the eyes of God.Islamic law, which Allah (Glorified and Exalted be He) sent down to His Messenger Muhammad (SAW), came to announce that women are full human beings exactly as men are. Women, like men, are, therefore, required to follow the way appointed by Allah.A woman, like a man, is, therefore, obligated with all three degrees of this religion: Islam (outward submission to Allah); Iman (inward faith in Allah); Ihsan (perfection of worship of Allah).It is thus required for every woman to testify that there is none deserving worship but Allah, and that Muhammad is Allah's Messenger; to pray; to give charity; to fast; and to make a pilgrimage to Allah's House if she has the means.It is likewise required for every woman to believe in Allah, His angels, His scriptures, His messengers, the Last Day, and to believe in Allah's decree (and that the good and evil consequences thereof are from Allah).It is likewise required for every woman to worship Allah as if she sees Him. For although she cannot see Allah, she must believe that He sees whatever she does in secret and in public.Every Muslim woman is commanded to be steadfast in her religion and not to be negligent with her faith. It is impermissible for her, under any pressure or compulsion, to open her heart to accept the word of disbelief.
There is scientific evidence everywhere sugesting how each gender is better than the other on such a wide variety of random aspects. I read this morning that Men are better at reading small sized text, but women are better at listening to quiet sounds. If you wish to discus whether women or men are 'better' then one must be incredibly specific in the criteria.
That said, where one gender comes accross as 'better' on one criteria, the other will find an equally important critera for which the result is the other way around; very similar to my above example.
...women are meant for making children, a delicate process. men do not have to be "careful" in that manner. whether or not you think being strong or being delicate is better is totally up to the person at hand.
Well, based on what is going on in society, I feel as though there is a massive problem regarding gender inequality where males are give more opportunities than females, especially in the STEM areas . So although females may be better than males, they aren't given as much of a chance as males to prove that they are, which is terrible. However, I do think that both genders are different in their unique way and no gender should be more superior than the other.
This has been the most popular discussion I have ever seen on eNotes. I wonder why. I would like to point out that the original question was not about whether men were better than women or vice versa; it was only about whether girls were better than boys. I would like to offer my opinion. Some girls are better than some boys, and some boys are better than some girls. Isn't that obvious? I don't mean just that boys are better at some things and girls better at others. I mean that some girls are better as persons than some boys and vice versa.
Post42# can u explain ur answer
Gender discretion is a creation of human mind. the inherited culture and heritage brought the change in mind set. i do not find any difference in nature, it is perfectly harmonious. how ever the role of female is superior since the procreative responsibility is fully mother oriented.
The word "better" in the initial question is kind of ambiguous. If you are a girl, would you rather have been born a boy? If you are a boy, would you rather have been born a girl? If so, why? If not, why not? If you were going to have only one child, would you rather have a boy or a girl? Why?
It is always hard to separate the subjective element from the objective truth. I note that most girls who answered the question think that girls are obvioiusly "better" than boys, whereas most boys think that boys are obviously "better" than girls. What is the objective truth?
In some ways girls are better, and other ways boys do!
Girls and Boys shouldn't be compared at all, they should be equal. No matter what we all have the pros of being a girl or boy and the cons. I'd get why girls would start a conversation about this, is even today men still think they have more power then the girls. Which explains the presidents of the United States being men. Just recently there was a girl president in some other country. I'll list some pros and cons about being girls and boys. Girls are weaker then boys, while the boys are naturally stronger. Girls are more gifted in music wise then boys, but some boys still perfect in music. Girls are naturally more polite then boys and more artistic. Boys are more talented in rough sport then girls. A lot of boys care about their grades but some they don't care at all. Anyone who is saying girls are better then boys, or boys are better then girls are sexist. In my family most of them are sexist, about how only girls can do work and stuff like that. While they don't care what the boys do [lucky me :P]. To be honest women can get jobs too, while men can do home chores. It's just personal preference. I've guess we just grown into the mode that women has to take care of the children and the men works. Girls have good opportunity for jobs a lot too, while men can easily take care of children. So my answer for this is Men = Women
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There is no difference in men or women. They're the same, both have pros and cons.
p.s anyone says either one is better is sexist
I agree with Suvetha
ok!!! So what ur FINAL conclusion
Woman = Man
Man > Woman
Woman = Man
Why girls think they are better than boys and boys they are better than girls? That is what i don't understand.
Only with men's and wowen's the humans can survive on earth without any of them we can't survive.
They are equal.
I'm noT being sexist.
Girls are smarte that's a fact
I think guys are better.
post 44# out of topic
Post42# can u explain ur answer
I agree with post 49#
men are naturally better tan womwen are because they can do more then women can but women can also were high heels make up and trie to look nice and men dont really care because there more focussed on whats in front of them.
i dont think that girls are better than boys. thats being very biased and unfair. girls can do things just like boys can. no one is better.
I'm a girl. I like guys. I have best friends that are girls. This is not a good question to ask because it's like so racist.. O.o BOTHH. My answer. Tsit. :)
Of course we can discuss....
Boys are too much superior in their physical strength.
only relations can make a girl more better than boys. As the strongest relation in this world is MOTHER so in this way girls are superior than boys.
- noooooooooooooooooooooooooo
I think that boys are better than girls, first because i'm myself a boy, and thatbthey have less problems...
I am the guy with the 8 pack, not the one looking at it. that is just weird to me. i just had to clarify that!
DUH.........................!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! So you have any doubts about this statement?
totally agree man and women have their own flaws and areas of strenght.one cannot distinguish between which is better than the other.
We're all human. End of story.
true!! ........;-)
DUH.........................!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! So you have any doubts about this statement?
What the statement about girls improving their looks and not their mind? or the DUH.................!!!!!!!!!.....???
If the first, no I don't agree with the quote cause it's not true for everyone. And if u meant DUH.......!!! no I don't agree with that either. ;D
really there should be no doubt that all humans are equal!!!
I like guys for being mates...but like girls better! :)
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Guide updated for patch 4.0.6.
The smite build I don't think will be a top of chart healing spec, however, I think its got a HUGE margin of utility. I think it also takes some thinking outside of the normal healer 'box' to get max useage out of it. I take for example the Magmaw fight, when most of the rest of our
healing team is Concentration quaffing, I can pop fiend, and use smite and our bunched up proximity to top up an entire 25man working not only the Head's +50% damage, but also Glyph of Smite and Archangel. With PI and IF it wasn't much of a mana problem at all. As the encounter got near the end, the mana pool was getting lean, but that's to be expected. Did the concentration during the 2nd Head phase along with Hymn. During the other heavy damage phases, it was handy to keep the smites to build up a stack for on demand CD for Archangel and Pennance CD's for the tank healing. Of course your mileage may vary....
Guide updated for patch 4.0.6.
25k bubbles, 10 to 12k hps and not going oom in BoT last night: priceless - Disc is just so much fun again.
Is it me or does disc seem complicated to play? Granted I only have a priest thats lvl 85 that I heal dungeons as holy, but looking at disc changes it makes me wonder if trying it is worth it. But looking at the guide it seems like it would be complex to try to heal a 5 man with. Am I mistaken?
A lot of discipline's healing is based on what cooldowns are available, so at times, I suppose it might feel more complicated than holy healing. Still:
Single-target healing, disc:
If a shield isn't up, shield
If penance is available, penance
If not, inner focus-greater heal
Otherwise: Smite or regen
Single-target healing, holy:
If chakra: heal isn't up, chakra
If renew isn't up, renew
If serenity is available, serenity
Heal if small damage, greater heal if large damage
AoE healing, disc:
If PoM is not up, PoM
If 5 targets, prayer of healing
If less than 5 targets and lots of incoming damage, bubble spam
AoE healing, holy:
If PoM is not up, PoM
If Chakra: PoH isn't up, Chakra
If CoH is available, CoH
If PoH is available, PoH
Both specs have about the same number of things to keep track of in terms of their rotation - after that, it just comes down to cooldown management, which is mostly increased healing versus reduced damage.
Im in abit of a pickle here with al this new stuff.
How are U guys intending to spec. Im currently in a pickle when it comes to say darkness vs inspiration. Inspiration now with crits of PoH and PoM feels really powerfull for say crackle and when helping on tanks a constant 10% reduction feels like a no brainer. However im reading alot of priest speaking against this talking in favor of darkness instead.
Also im considering reforging abit.
Currently at 10% haste 17%crit 13 mastery and with a combat regen that puts me precisly at were I wanna be for most fights. How would U reforge this and why?
Inspiration wouldn't help with crackle since crackle is magic damage, yeah?
Crit is poopy unless you're primarily a tank healer. If you're a tank healer, reforge to crit and DEFINITELY get inspiration. If you aren't running smite spec, you should have enough points to get all the good talents in disc & inspiration. If you are running smite spec, spec out of it. :> Atonement healing is poop and the poopness is multiplied if you're supposed to tank heal.
For raid healing, the value of haste for disc priests has plummeted given the value of mastery. Since PW:S isn't affected by oogobs of haste like PoH is, we want more mastery than before (reforge crit -> mastery). If you aren't casting that many direct heals at all, then reforge your haste -> mastery as well. If you're still casting a fair amount of direct heals, the haste can be beneficial.
As for Inspiration with a raid healing spec, you should still get it assuming you do tank healing at any time ever(which you should, since shielding the tank & tossing him some spare penances is a great idea, especially if you have/get 4pc).
Before this our shields wasnt this good but now togheter with DA this should prove to be a diff story and hence thinking bout dismantling some haste.
Considering inspiration procs out of PoH PoM etc that would now put this uptime also at basicly tankpace even if im going mostly PoH on some fights? That reply acctualy made me think abit clearer even thou I kinda like my smite spec espes for 10s this sounds like a decent plan :P.
But witouht crit I wont hit DA as often with direkt healing? Even if my DA is increased in power it dosent become as effektive if I do not crit as often? Not talking bout PoH now obviosly.
That's the tricky thing with our stats. If you're still casting lots of PoH, then you'll want a balance of crit, haste & mastery (reforging your crit away would balance the stats). But PW:S is now the spell of choice for disc priests again, and is directly effected by your mastery level. If you want to add more absorbs to your PW:S, you'll want more mastery.
Agree there its getting abit more tricky each day to find that perfekt balance will have to try a mastery push I guess to be sure sacrificing crit and haste for starters :P.
Hmm any thoughts on soul warding atm? And likewise AA ofcourse. Decent pusher for some fights but if removing atonment its basicly useless to smite for it? Thinking bout fights like chimearon were a 15% healing increase is kinda nice when ppl are gonna be needed to be healed up fast as hell. Soul warding feels abit over the topp for tank healing now with sos up.
Soul Warding is not necessary for 5-mans, however in a raid setting it is a strong talent again. PW:S has been buffed like crazy, and while we can't bubblebot our way the whole raid like Wrath, we can toss up several before a big AOE to mitigate a lot of the damage.
Given how many of our talents in the tree are mandatory or close to it, it seems we're faced with a choice between an A/A spec, or skipping it in favor of some of the nice stuff outside the tree like Darkness. Comparing the utility of A/A to a flat boost to spell haste is... well, I dunno. I'll figure out what I like better sooner or later :-P
I think you're speaking in extremes. Bubble spam is good but very very mana intensive - I wouldn't suggest stacking pure Mastery, at least at this gear level, because you will still be using a lot of casted spells as a raid healer, and will be casting PW:S fairly often (and for a fair chunk of damage absorption) as a tank healer.Crit is poopy unless you're primarily a tank healer. If you're a tank healer, reforge to crit and DEFINITELY get inspiration. If you aren't running smite spec, you should have enough points to get all the good talents in disc & inspiration. If you are running smite spec, spec out of it. :> Atonement healing is poop and the poopness is multiplied if you're supposed to tank heal.
For raid healing, the value of haste for disc priests has plummeted given the value of mastery. Since PW:S isn't affected by oogobs of haste like PoH is, we want more mastery than before (reforge crit -> mastery). If you aren't casting that many direct heals at all, then reforge your haste -> mastery as well. If you're still casting a fair amount of direct heals, the haste can be beneficial.
As for Inspiration with a raid healing spec, you should still get it assuming you do tank healing at any time ever(which you should, since shielding the tank & tossing him some spare penances is a great idea, especially if you have/get 4pc).
Furthermore, you should ALWAYS have Inspiration for PvE. If you're raid healing, you'll still be bouncing stuff like PoM, Penance, and the occasional GHeal on the tank. A/A is good utility, but outside of the old Halfus that's all it was and is - utility. Good for downtime, to top people off during periods of low damage, or to weave between your spells to get 5 stacks for a +15% healing buff when you need it. Just because you specced Smite does not mean you'll be casting it 100% of the time, and certainly is not an excuse for skipping a vital damage mitigation talent.
Let's see, what else. Haste is tremendously useful regardless of your role - you're correct that Crit is very good for single-target and pretty weak with PW:S and PoH, but stacking it for single-target healing makes no sense given our low crit rates. Do you really want to rely on RNG to keep your tank alive? Better to have a good balance of Crit and Haste, as the Haste will shorten the time between your GHeals and thus create a reliable method of throughput. Crit is good but it sucks by itself, much like one M&M just makes you hungry for more. (damn that's a good analogy)
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Thank you for the information Zevia. I was wondering if Disc was better at one type of healing then another. Like the holy thread says, holy is better at raid healing then tank healing but can tank heal when needed. Is Disc focused on tank healing or raid healing?
And I wouldn't say Holy Priests are weak single-target healers, either. Not as strong as other classes perhaps, but still solid. The issue is Chakra - they need to swap Chakra states to get from AoE healing mode to single-target healing mode, and Chakra has a 30 second cooldown.
Most of this idea that one class can only tank heal and others can only raid heal is left over from Wrath, where Holy Paladins were the tank healers and everyone else wasn't. They've done a decent job of giving all the healing specs the tools for single-target or AoE/multi-target healing, even if they didn't do an outstanding job of balancing all the classes.
ty for the thread I see that I have been gemming wrong taking more mastery and less intellect at this point, but I do use my power word shield whenever it's available and also use renew. Use renew alot for the simple matter then when it crits it's put on divine ageis also i'm sad to say I never used greater heal lol been using flash heal will have to switch that up and see haven't really had an issue other than mana going oom but haven't started raiding much one a.m raid on magmaw with guild will be doing more shortly though ty much for the guide will tweak spec and heals I use ty much
Make sure to update this to reflect the +33% cost to PW: Shield that just got Hotfixed in. Definitely going to change the mechanics for Disc priests.
They just make shield viable again then increase the mana cost. Disc priests shield, in fairness they should have reduced the mana cost for Penance or Flash heal to make up for this.
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Great Item for Chewers
By Magnus
from New Jersey
About Me Long-time Pet Owner
Comments about Rocky Mountain Antler Chews Rocky Mountain Antler Dog Chews:
My pits are chewers and they love these antlers more than anything. Even though they are a bit more costly than rawhide, I will continue to buy since they are natural and no animals have to die for them.
Bottom Line Yes, I would recommend this to a friend
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Chewed up fast
By AustinOriginal
from Rhome, TX
I've used a brand called Antlerz in the past, and they lasted forever. These where gone in one chew session! Less expensive, yes, but I prefer the one that lasts longer.
Bottom Line No, I would not recommend this to a friend
Pup loves the antlers!
By Pup the active yellow lab.
from New Braunfels, Texas
Pup gets her antler once or twice a day. It keeps her busy when she is resless and does clean her teeth. Our only complaint is that she can go through the antlers fairly qickly, although not as fast as a raw hide. They're getting expensive to replenish!
Great treat
By Julie
from McHenry. IL
I ordered this treat after seeing how my dog loved chewing on an antler my neighbor had for his dog. We used our birthday coupon and gave it to him for his present. So far it is his favorite chew toy and recently he had not been chewing on his bones. This antler renewed his chewing vigor and he really enjoys it.
Unique toy idea
By Natural Fan
from Indiana
While it's not her favorite toy now that the novelty has worn off, she'll chew on it occasionally for something different. I love how it seems indestructible and safe.
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Best Value in Antlers
By Jo
from Fairfax
My 70# Lab mix is a strong chewer and has eaten antlers I have gotten (for twice the price) from other stores in 1-3 days!! These antlers last a long time and the largest ones are a generous size along with being so reasonably priced. This is his favorite go-to thing to chew on when he has down time and in the mood. I just need to be sure to check them now and then and toss out when they get down to around 2". I also LOVE the fact that for a change, nothing has to die to benefit my dog!
Great Product
By Lauren
from New York, NY
About Me New Owner
Great product at a great price. My dog can chew on this bone for hours and I know its good for him.
Buck loves his antler!
By BA
from Dallas TX
Our large GSD pup bats it around on the floor, drops it down the stairs and then goes and fetches it, it entertains him for quite awhile. Also good to give to him when he's in a chewy mood, he trounces off with it to his special place and works on it.Great for teething puppies and chewers.
My big dogs love these
By Big Dogs
from AR
my dogs love to settle in the evening and chew on these. Best thing is when they get tired of chewing I just put them up for another session later. They are big dogs so they are eating them but not enough of it to hurt them I don't like rawhide chews so these are perfect.
Doesn't get chewed right up.
By Deeje
from Alliance,NE
Shelby Loves the chew. Only thing better would be one size bigger.
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Written by Ronald Scaglia Tuesday, 20 November 2012 00:00
"Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you want to test a man's character, give him power." Abraham Lincoln
This is one of my favorite quotes that I often repeat. During my experiences, I have met individuals who have gained power and used it to make a positive difference, help others, and make themselves true leaders. I have also encountered those who let the power go to their heads and used it in a bad manner. Therefore, I consider this statement from Lincoln to be truly sage advice that I often refer to, and with a movie about the 16th President now showing in movie theaters, it is also timely.
It is also timely because of the last word in that quotation – power. Over the past few weeks, having power – the electrical kind – has been one of the biggest issues on Long Island. Some businesses were fortunate enough to have electricity throughout the storm and these establishments were often packed in the days after the hurricane hit as those left in the dark searched for hot food, supplies, gas, a place to wash their clothing, and other basic needs that suddenly became difficult to meet. During that time, I saw examples of those who used their good fortune admirably as well as those who didn't.
One gas station that I filled up at did not raise their prices extraordinarily due to the shortage. One night, even though this station was one of the only stations in the area to have gas, and also had a very long line of motorists waiting to fill up, the attendant thanked me for my business. Wow. It was an act of civility among the madness. A pizza place that I frequent often was very accommodating, even though there was a two-hour wait for a pie, as if they appreciated my steady patronage before and knew that it would be their regular customers who would support their business after the crisis had ended.
By contrast, another business that I went to was not so nice. I was treated with arrogance, and prices that I thought were exceedingly high.
I'm sure most of you have similar accounts. There were some who acted very responsibly in the aftermath of the storm and those who you feel abused the "power" that they were lucky enough to have. One common quote that I heard in the immediate days following the storm was, "I hope everyone remembers this after things get back to normal." I heard that quipped about a gas station, as the speaker believed the prices were way too high. Well, I agree with this quote. I hope everyone remembers how they were treated. I hope everyone remembers those who were there for the community, and did not plunder and pillage. I hope customers continue to patronize these businesses, now that things are getting back to a semblance of normalcy. And I also hope consumers remember those who abused the power, were curt, and raised prices to unacceptable levels.
How people act when they have power, whether figurative or real, says much about their character. Now the power is returning to everyone else. It is our chance to use our "power" to hold others accountable for their actions.
Ron Scaglia is the Special Sections editor of Anton Newspapers.


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Thursday, December 8, 2011
Rudolph's Nose~Cookie on a Stick {Easy-Peasy}
Now onto the easiest cookie on-a-stick ever...
I used a sugar cookie dough, rolled it out, grabbed a small (1.5-inch) biscuit cutter and went to town cutting out reindeer noses. I then inserted popsicle sticks and baked them. When cooled, they were iced using red (AmeriColor Super Red soft gel food paste) tinted royal icng. While the icing was still wet I sprinkled on red decorating sugar. Let dry completely.
That's all there is to it! I told you it was easy~peasy:)
How cute would these Rudolph Nose cookies on-a-stick be for a party favor or photo-op? As you can see, very cute!
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So cute and so smart! ^^ I'm going to try this for our Christmas party, soon. Or maybe I should just test it out for the family now! Your recipes and ideas are so amazing.ReplyDelete
This is so much cuter than the trendy mustache on a stick photo op. LOVE it!ReplyDelete
Cute indeed!ReplyDelete
leave to YOU to have a wonderful idea like this! so cute and fun...sweet memories!ReplyDelete
These look simple delicious and super easy :) Visiting from sun scholarsReplyDelete
This is such a cute photo. I bet your Munchkin loved posing for it.ReplyDelete
These are sooo cute. I bet your Munchkins love you to pieces!ReplyDelete
Adorable... I was hoping this was coming after your noses-in-a-jar :) !ReplyDelete
so very cute! i still can't believe you have 8 grandkids!ReplyDelete
I am making these this morning for our church craft fair!! I think the kids would LOVE these...THANKS!!ReplyDelete
I love this idea - we are definitely making these!ReplyDelete
VERY cute - even just with the one munchkin :-)ReplyDelete
Such a cute idea! My daughter would love this! Would you share at Mrs Foxs Sweet Party :) http://mrsfoxssweets.blogspot.com/2011/12/mrs-foxs-sweet-party-1.htmlReplyDelete
So adorable! It was the 'red nose day' yesterday over here in Germany. Those would be really perfect for the event.ReplyDelete
Aww isn't he cute! He looks like he's having so much fun there! Plus of course he gets to eat the cookie afterwards! :DReplyDelete
Ahhhhh!!! I LOVE THESE....Expect to see a pic of my munchkins as Rudolph soon!!!ReplyDelete
adorable! I saw this on Pinterest and didn't realize they were yours! Sometimes the best ideas are the simplest :) Merry Christmas!ReplyDelete
Love-love-love~! The red-nose cookies are the cutest thing!!!And it's so simple!!! BTW did you pre-soaked the sticks before baking?ReplyDelete
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I love this! I wanted to let you know that I featured this in my "What I Bookmarked This Week" post - stop by and see.ReplyDelete
That little munchkin behind the nose is a sweetheart! Love that you put the Rudoph noses on a stick too.ReplyDelete
Cute as can be!ReplyDelete
How lucky that you got one of the munchkins to pose with it! Such an adorable photo.ReplyDelete
These cookies are so cute! I would love it if you came to link to my holiday recipe swap blog hop. It is my first ever! Love these recipes.ReplyDelete
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back to tell you they sold out lickety split at the craft fair. THEY WERE SO POPULAR!! The kids (and adults) just loved the idea, so thanks so so so much!!ReplyDelete
Those are the perfect decorated cookies for me because it's just a circle of royal icing. Star adding details, and my hand shakes, the icing globs lol Your munchkin looks so cute with Rudolph's nose! ;)ReplyDelete
Aww-cutest gingerbread men, ever.ReplyDelete
These cookies and your munchkin are so adorable. Sorry about the plan. Hey, maybe save the idea for next year. :) I really want to see all your munchkins with a red nose.ReplyDelete
Wish you and your loved ones a wonderful Holiday Season.
I know my son would love these little treats! First time at your blog, you have some beautiful recipes here!ReplyDelete
This is so cute!! And the picture of your son is DARLING!! I am your newest follower. I'd love for you to follow me back, if you want to =-) I would love for you to come link up at my TGIF LInky Party - http://livinglifeintentionally.blogspot.com/search/label/Linkey%20Parties - I know my readers would love to see!!ReplyDelete
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sooooo sweet!!! love your rudolf pic!!! greetings from angie (germany)ReplyDelete


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