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County Executive Edward P. Mangano campaigned for and won his current position with a clear promise to lower spending and taxes for Nassau. The day draws near when he must deliver, arriving at a balanced budget for 2011 without raising taxes or increasing the deficit. This has led to painful proposals, drawing protests on extreme moves like cutting loose the entire Long Island Bus system and turning the high expense of tax refunds over to schools, towns, villages and other special districts including libraries and fire districts.
At a hearing before the Nassau County Legislature on Monday, Oct. 18, with this tax refund switch on the table, the ultimate question raised and discussed was: should the county government make a move to protect its own financial state, if that move would cause higher taxes and expenses in the long run for taxpayers? School supporters came out in droves to share their take on this question, telling lawmakers that ending the "guarantee" that the county now has in place to refund its own mistaken tax collecting will cause a loss of teachers and an increase in taxes for residents within Nassau's 56 school districts – potentially causing budgets – budgets people can actually vote on - to fail at a time of financial challenges and tax caps looming. They argued that if one thing still attracts people to the area, it is good schools. Inflicting one more major blow on quality of local education could end this, they warned.
"This is a cynical attempt to pass your costs to the schools," accused Dr. Igor Webb, president of the North Shore Board of Education. "We will have to raise taxes and lower services… It is not the case that there is a problem being solved here. What you are doing threatens the golden goose that is the school systems of Nassau County,"
Since 1938, Nassau County has had permission from New York State to assess property values on behalf of all the taxing entities within its borders and collect taxes accordingly. Only one other county does this, upstate's Tompkins County.
Pat Foye, one of Mangano's deputy county executives, presented to lawmakers Monday that this process is resulting in huge losses for Nassau, as bad assessments have led to $250 million in refund costs each year, creating $1.5 billion in debt related to covering that cost. Therefore, to keep the county from going bankrupt, he explained that it was necessary to abandon this cost at the county level.
What made for debate, and fueled the arguments of this plan's detractors at the hearing, is that the county will still perform the bad assessments, simply turning over the responsibility to pay the refunds on its bad assessments to other governments and schools. Foye explained that this plan would not go into effect until 2013, however, and the hope was that by that time the assessment process should work properly, and measurements taken this year to prevent grievances would take effect, so refunds would not create such a high cost. The obvious skeptical response, repeated throughout the room by several dissenting legislators and school representatives, was: if the assessment process would be fixed and stop costing money – something multiple administrations have failed to achieve, why turn over the refund responsibility to others?
"You're assuming the system will be fixed," Legislator Kevan Abrahams told Foye. "I don't make that assumption. This has been going on a long time… If this won't go into effect until 2013, why vote now? I think you don't think you'll fix the problem… This doesn't save the taxpayer any money."
Legislator Judi Bosworth echoed, "I don't believe you solve a problem by making it someone else's. This is an abdication of responsibility."
The other major objection from some legislators revolved around the fact that while the county administration is saying this move will simply mean taxpayers writing the same check to a different government, the reality is that the cost will be higher at the end of the day. Some legislators argued that the county will not be lowering taxes as a result of removing this cost from the budget, so there is not a level swap – there will be a tax increase in total as residents pay the same county taxes combined with higher local and school taxes to cover the refunds that the county passed on.
"This is not a zero-sum game here," Legislator Wayne Wink said in this regard. "Will the county return the $80 million it is saving [by not paying refunds] to the taxpayers? The fact of the matter is that the $80 million will be used for other purposes."
Legislator Robert Troiano added, "It is disingenuous to say taxes won't go up for the ordinary taxpayer. What's being proposed by the county executive harms everyone."
Opponents further argued that the county has more options for dealing with costs, like bonding them, which spreads one cost over many years, and for amassing non-tax revenues, like fees – options schools do not have. And, it already has the infrastructure for the assessment process in place, whereas other bodies would have to take on the expense of administering a whole new enterprise.
"This is one more unfunded mandate – the hardest part of the job for school boards," Legislator Joseph Scannell said. "They will be forced to hire their own assessment people… they are not going to rely on this broken system… schools and villages will lose services because of this."
Minority Leader Diane Yatauro and others in her caucus asked why a report due in June from the loudly heralded Assessment Review Team, headed by Foye, to solve the issues causing bad assessments, was never delivered. She accused the county administration of shirking its goal of fixing the system and simply taking care of its own books while adding to the burden on taxpayers.
"How is it that you are comfortable saying to the taxpayer that you're doing whatever you need to do to make yourselves whole? You're putting the job you were supposed to do, fixing the assessment system, on the back burner and taxing all of us through the schools, just so the county executive can say 'We didn't raise taxes.'"
The Legislature left the hearing open. It must vote on a budget this month.


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Born Sinner - J. Cole
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Generally favorable reviews- based on 254 Ratings
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Positive: 189 out of 254
Mixed: 14 out of 254
Negative: 51 out of 254
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Jun 17, 2013Amazing album. Huge step up from his debut album Cole World: The Sideline Story, production and lyric wise. Best HIP HOP album dropping on June 18th. Support the man!
Jun 18, 2013I don't really have much too write about this album. Cause clearly people hate on Cole's beautiful and darker sophmore project just for the sake of Kanye West's Yeezus. Sad to see how people instantly throw words around before they even heared it. If so I would gladly listen to your opinions. In my opinion when it comes to the lyrics, Born Sinner is the winner of the two by far, on Yeezus it felt kinda lazy with it but he sure had his moments at times. Not Ye's best tough. Production wise Yeezus has more flavour to it, more harder bass and production. Either you love the production of Yeezus or you simply dislike it. I'm a huge Kanye fan but to me the lyrics didn't to me or the production really well. Yeezus is good, great in it's first five tracks. And Black Skinhead is so far one of the year's best with New Slaves. Born Sinner.. too me, is fantastic. He's rhymes are really well put-together and he's flow switches up good and dosen't get boring. 18th June is a great day in Hip Hop. Let's welcome "the newer" faces, if J. Cole's albums are as good as this one at least then he sure is going to do ous well in the future.… Expand
Jun 18, 2013J Cole's new album is a very mellow one. I thought it would be boring, but this is a mellow album done right! Lyrically, Born Sinner is even better than Yeezus and Watching Tv With the Sound Off, but for the production Yeezus AND Watching Tv were better.
Production: 7/10
Lyrics: 9/10
Final: 8/10
Jun 17, 2013Had huge hopes for this Cd. So many mixtapes and features on tracks and killed it. However, maybe I built it up in my head a bit cuz it wasn't one of my favorites this year. Seems to me most of his songs had similair references and topics. It almost created a "mood" which wasn't something I'd play to bob my head to feel it. I found myself listening to the lyrics-which is good. But not when the same things come up.… Expand
Jun 18, 2013This album is a giant step up from Coleworld and the theme of heaven & hell comes across great. Standouts on the album are 'forbidden fruit' 'she knows' and 'villuminati'
Jun 18, 2013This is a great album, dope lyrics and production with a cohesive concept behind the whole project. What I'm trying to figure out is how people on here are saying this is a solid album but didn't live up to the hype then rate it a 0/10.... TFOH. Dont let the Kanye stans turn you away, this album is worth buying especially with the type of music being released these days.
Jun 18, 2013Great solid album. J.Cole has shown great production skills and has even emerged to be one of the best contenders of the rap game lyrically too. This is the album that J.Cole should be making and this gives Yeezus stiff competition. There is not one bad song on the entire album and even the deluxe edition songs are great.
Jun 17, 2013Cole rally came strong on this album. The album starts off with absolute fire with Villuminati the way Cole makes fun of the whole concept is brilliant. Things just get better -Power Trip is amazing, She Knows is good, Let Nas Down, Crooked Smile & Mo Money are all very good. The only song I don't really care for is Chaining Day...just not much to it. The Deluxe edition has two amazing songs the previously released Miss America and NY Times (ft. 50 cent). If you're going to buy an album this week, this is the one to get. ColeWorld… Expand
Jun 19, 2013The same old music from J Cole. The same old. Nothing new here folks. Sorry but this album is trashy. It seems like the songs are left over from the sideline story.........next time maybe?
Jun 17, 2013Cole goes IN and his production game is on point, best album i've heard in quite a while, every song blends production, flow, and lyrics so perfectly it's hard to think of any way to make this album better
Jun 17, 2013This review contains spoilers, click expand to view. This album shows J. Cole's growth as a producer, and storyteller, and with that you have Born Sinner. The overall dark tone of production and lyrics in the first half of the album, "She Knows" is the only song that isn't really a highlight of the first half, but is still a fairly enjoyable song at that. The darkness in the first half is offset by the lighter second half, starting with the "Where's Jermaine" skit that leads into the long awaited Kendrick Lamar collaboration "Forbidden Fruit", which is a very high set highlight of the album, I could see this as the third single. "Chaining Day" sounds like a song that was ultimately left off of "The 20/20 Experience", which isn't necessarily a bad thing given it gives vibes of Timbaland production, with mellow lyrics. Then you have Crooked Smile, the uplifting collaboration with TLC. This song should do very well on the billboard charts, it has all of the tools to do so. "Let Nas Down" is a highlight all in itself. Cole describes how he let his childhood idol down by "selling out" and making "Workout". The title track "Born Sinner" ends the album on a high note, only to introduce you back to "Villuminati" with it's Choir ending that goes right into the introduction of the album. The album overall to me is a strong 8- light 9, which is a complete step of from the mess that was "Cole World: The Sideline Story".… Expand
Jun 17, 2013Very good album from Cole here and certainly a LARGE step up from his debut, Cole World: The Sideline Story, which was more of a 6 or 7 out of 10. This, however, is more like his mixtapes, which is exactly what fans like myself wanted. Tons of emphasis on the lyrics and Cole certainly went hard here with less corny lines than on Cole World. The main criticism I've heard of the album is the production, but I tell ya, I'm not really seeing it. The production wasn't extraordinary, but it was far from being bad enough to take away from the album at all. Not as good as Yeezus, but very good in its own right.… Expand
Jun 17, 2013Production was topnotch. Storytelling was incredible. Cole's flow and bars were very impressive. Nice to have an album you can play through the end and not want to skip songs. major improvement from Cole World. Cole really delivers.
Jun 17, 2013Cole's honesty and master storytelling throughout Born Sinner is something worthy of praise in itself. Each song serves it's purpose in allowing you into his world as he struggles to navigate through a corrupt society in hopes of finding himself.
LAnd of the Snakes, Runaway, Rich N*ggaz, Forbidden Fruit, Crooked Smile, Let Nas Down and the album's title track are the milestones of this album.
In the end Cole revels in the realization that self-fulfillment trumps any material gain, creating a truly inspirational tale. By the album's end Cole's triumph will resonate with any reader that has ever had to do any soul searching.… Expand
Jun 18, 2013A vast improvement from his inconsistent, lukewarm debut. Cole starts off with vengeance with a spit-fire flow on Villuminati. The album covers the topics of lust, corruption, temptation, how deceitful/shady people can be, and staying true to yourself with new found fame and money. The production is definitely top notch throughout the album.
Jun 18, 2013Album is incredible. Not one bad song on it and the production is out of this world. Only downside is that the lyrics aren't up to par with previous projects however, some lyrics made me rewind and think OH
Jun 18, 2013Great album, incredible. Cole once again delivered with stories, concepts and incredible production which is his best to date. To fully appreciate and understand the album you gotta listen from start to finish to feel the duality of it, darkness to hapiness. Don't know if it will win in sales against Ye, but surely in quality THE BEST ALBUM THAT CAME OUT ON June 18th, and possibly this year. If you want that real, you gonna cop this. Support the real music!!!… Expand
Jun 18, 2013JCN, stand up!
Hug improvement from his first album. Upgraded flow, production and hooks. Cole World!
Jun 18, 2013Born Sinner is a solid album overall, plenty of replay value, especially from tracks that don't necessarily stand out. I've never heard anything like 'Let Nas Down' before, and it's testament to Cole's sincerity, most rappers won't open themselfs up like that. It's the one track that really blew my mind on BS.
Jun 18, 2013This is the best album of the year. The production is good and the lyricism is awesome. This is what a hip hop album should sound like. good job cole.
Jun 23, 2013I'm as big of a J. Cole fan as there is and after a few listens to this album I can't help but feel that some of the magic was lost from the original/past mix tapes. He seems to be in a dark place right now and while in some songs it translated well, others it didn't. Listen to this if you enjoy real hip-hop because there are some classics on this album you don't want to miss.
Jun 17, 2013Great album. Really surprised me of how much Cole has evolved in such little time, he crafted this album almost perfectly. It's good to hear and album with more than just one or two good songs, minimum fillers makes a big difference.
Jun 17, 2013This album is a big step forward from cole world. What I appreciate about cole is that he puts an equal or even more emphasis on producing his own songs. And he has turned out to be a damn good producer. His bars and rhymes also deserve equal acclaim. Best tracks; Rich N***z, She Knows, Power Trip, Let Nas Down
Jun 17, 2013A great album in which you see a huge step forward in production. J. Cole is a great artist and this improvement in his production is what makes Born Sinner so great.
Jun 18, 2013Born Sinner is Amazing. Much better than Yeezus or mac millers album. Cole>Kanye>Mac Miller. Also Cole Haters and Kanye Stans suck. Lol. Can't accept the fact Cole made a better album.
Jun 18, 2013Best i ever heard, Cole is like a god, he shows the path in life, genius like a penius u know crazy wordplay yeaaaaa dip sip lip hahahahahahaahahahah
Jun 18, 2013J. Cole preaches his personal life and battle between good and evil with excellent lyricism, and excellent production. Cole shows his evolution as a rapper, producer, and most importantly as an artist. This is the best rap album since good kid, m.A.A.d city, and will likely be the best album we see this year
Jun 18, 2013J. Cole showcases growth both as a rapper and producer in his sophomore album....
Full review of J. Cole's 'Born Sinner' here: http://highbrowhiphop.com/j-coles-born-sinner-review/
Jun 18, 2013Critics do not know what make a great hip hop album. They know what SHOULD make the charts, what formula to create mainstream success, but not what touches the heart of listeners, what brings in core fans. J Cole talked about this in his album and it went straight over critic's heads. Just for the honesty and intricate storytelling and insight into his life, in a materialistic Hip Hop world we live in today, J Cole deserves a 10. Mainstream music needs more artists like this. Kendrick Lamar and J Cole are the faces of the new age of Hip Hop.… Expand
Jun 18, 2013This album could easily become 2013's best Hip-Hop album but there's more to come. This album is much more improved if compared to his debut album, Cole World: The Sideline Story. The album's title was inspired by a verse in The Notorious B.I.G's song ''Juicy'', the verse is ''Born Sinner, Opposite of Winner''. The song is featured as a sample in the first track on the album ''Villuminati'', which is one of the best tracks in the album. There is some 2Pac and Notorious B.I.G in the album as well as some Jay-Z inspiration. The album had only 1 track I really disliked. The rest are amazing and some are good. Although I wish the album had some more collaborations with other rappers. J.Cole produced all of the songs in the album and had people co-produce in 2 tracks. The production is good in the album. But overall I felt some tracks like ''Chaining Day'' had not so good production which made the song sound not as good as it could have been. This album is easily better than Kanye West's Yeezus.
OVERALL: The album is AMAZING. I think J.Cole really took his time making this album and made some big lyricism and some production improvements. This album is definitely worth the price. I would highly recommend picking up the Deluxe Version as it makes the album even better for $13,99 on iTunes or you can go pick up physical copy in stores.… Expand
Jun 18, 2013Born Sinner Was An Absolute Testament To J.Cole's Growth, He Has Managed To Stay Himself Throughout His Mix tapes & This Album Is No Exception. He Is Relatable Yet Lyrical. It Was Worth Every Penny.
Jun 19, 2013he actually stepped up his production his lyrics are good but his flow is similar in all songs...........................................................
Jun 22, 2013J.Coles sophomore album is ambitious and seeks to be something great, and on some songs it shows. Others on the other hand come up short and feels week. The album is honest, and I like that. But the subject matter can get repetitive. Rapping about "being real" gets old after a while. Also having songs called "No Money" and "Rich on the same album is strange. On No Money he says"Mo money, blow money, show money, party money, side ho money, dope money..." Yeah you get the idea, that line goes on for a while. But on "Rich he says,"I hate rich goddammit cause i aint never had a lot dammit". If on this album if he's trying to be real and stay true to the fans, why is he making songs that counter act each other on the same project. I'm not saying their bad songs, but their not helping the his persona of "being real". Another problem I have with this project is about how much he focus's on his idols, hell he made a whole song about he disappointed Nas. He talks about he's going to be a legend, but I don't think he can be if all he raps about is how good 2pac and Nas are. On a positive note the production is on point. In "Trouble" the choir bring a brilliant sound to the song that sounds similar to "Sunrise" by Childish Gambino. Probably my favorite song on the album is "New York Times". One of the lyrically best on the album and the catchiest hook. J.Cole at the end of the day is a lyricist, and a good one at that. But I think he needs to widen his subject matter and move on from praising his idols. If your already a fan you'll probably love this album, but new listeners might find it more to be just average.
Favorite Tracks: Villuminati, Trouble, New York Times.
Least Favorite: Forbidden Fruit, Miss America, Born Sinner.… Expand
Jun 24, 2013J. Cole, while a rapper with skills, doesn't display them. He's a very boring and tedious rapper. People say he's "real" when I've heard the same ole stuff from other rappers. I don't buy into his hype. Its ridiculous. Born Sinner backs my point. Very stale album, production is okay, but not the best.
Jul 1, 2013Amazing album by J. Cole. His production matched with his lyrical potency is amazing. So far, the best Hip Hop album of this year. Future of Hip-Hop is found in Cole
Jul 6, 2013Overall, a solid album. Songs like "Rich nigg*z" & "Let Nas Down" give it that raw appeal. Even singles like "Power Trip" & "Crooked Smile" push it to the limit. But when hearing his first mixtape, "Warm Up", you can't help but think he has more potential than this. Although I have to admit, he matured well from his debut.
Jun 17, 2013An impressive and enjoyable sophomore effort. A little one dimensional in terms of its subject matter- but then look at the genre as a whole. Doubtless a step up from his debut album, which was considered by many to be a disappointment. Contrarily, 'Born Sinner' showcases not only his ability on the microphone but his production, which was solid throughout. Looking forward to seeing more from J Cole in the future.… Expand
Jun 17, 2013Dope, but repetitive album. J Cole hasn't progressed much as an artist or stepped out of his comfort zone which is a bit disappointing, but still solid. The lack of features and length make this album a little boring, for some reason I just can't get into it. It seems that with all the other big Hip-Hop releases coming out that are really pushing boundaries, this album may be forgotten quite quickly. Still… Expand
Jun 17, 2013"It's the feeling in the air you bout to drop a real classic
He said Cole, "A lil' birdy told me on the low you got an Illmatic"
Nobody touching Nas it's more like Villematic" Villematic (Friday Night Lights)
It's entirely too early to determine what the status of this album will be in the years to come, although we do live in a generation that gives the title of classic to just about every album 30 minutes after downloading a leak, but for what it's worth, the anticipation, the hype, and the build up for J.Cole's 2nd album is what a lot of people were looking forward to for quite some time. I think it's because Sideline Story was such a disappointment for many that the expectations were either: high, low, or simply in the happy medium. I know that I was prepared for this album because of the first single that he put out, his feature verses (Pray by The Game also featuring JMSN is the notable one), and his growing strength in producing is what had me enticed as to what we'll hear. Also, the fact that he moved up release date to compete with Kanye West shows that he has the confidence in his music that he can go toe to toe with the great ones. He has a quote later on in the album that says: "long live the idols, may they never be your rivals" and Kanye West is definitely idolized by many, so why not share the same spotlight with one of the greats? It would make sense to me.
The title of the album Born Sinner is a reflection of the fact that when you're born, you're already surrounded by the world's wrongs which become to manifest around you. A line that I'm thinking of right now is Kendrick Lamar's from Ab-Soul's Outro on Section.80:
"you ever see a newborn baby kill a grown man? That's an analogy for how the world makes me react. My innocence's been dead"
The picture of the baby with Deviled horns symbolizes that we're unknown to the fact that we essentially sin from Day 1, but it's not until we grow and receive an understanding of just what it is that's so sinful. Religion, spirituality; whatever you believe in, they've been common topics throughout Hip Hop as of recent that have been constantly spoken upon, and it's something that a lot of young people can relate to (which is primarily his target audience) because like myself, I'm not very religious, and I do question a lot of things that I've been exposed to when it comes to having a belief in a higher power or the Bible itself. Everything comes down the Kanye's line in Gorgeous, which I'm sure I've regurgitated through several of my reviews, but it works here:
"Is Hip Hop just a euphemism for a new religion?"
Keep Reading http://dopedrops.com/2013/06/j-cole-born-sinner-review/… Expand
Jun 17, 2013Only really a few good songs on this album that I would come back to. The production of this sounds as if a church congregation got together to make a rap album. Although I'm sure that is what J. Cole was going for, it just came off as bland to me.
Jun 18, 2013Great production, lyrics with substance, and a cohesive theme that runs from start to finish. Plenty of stand-out tracks like 'Let Nas Down', 'Trouble', 'She Knows', and of course both singles; 'Power Trip' and 'Crooked Smile'.
A great album all-round.
Jun 18, 2013King Cole, Cole World No Blanket. Need a few listens to see how great the lyrics really. Production is on point and he Definitely has grown as an artist and this album is flawless. 10/10 AOTY #newlegends
Jun 18, 2013JCN IN DIS BISH
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Jun 18, 2013Production is immaculate. Lyrics on-point as usually. Every track is there for a reason, which accounts for its cohesion. Overall, i'd say its a masterpiece.
Jun 18, 2013Amazing album. Unlike what others say I don't think the production is boring, and Cole switches up his flow more often than not, so it was a great listen. Honestly I would give this album a 9, because I don't really like She Knows and Ain't That Some but I have to cancel out the Yeezus trolls, who are blindly giving this album negative reviews.
Jun 18, 2013Born Sinner is a well rounded package from an artist who has fought tooth and nail to achieve his position in Rap. It's about time someone has received what they've earned. INCREDIBLE body of work. Congrats to J. Cole. Album in stores now! Buy a few. Support real music.
Jun 18, 2013This album is dope! I can definitely see where Cole is coming from, when he said this album is like a trip through hell. The first half is noticeably darker than the other half.
Not only did J Cole improve lyrically from his debut, but his production is also much improved. Great listen. My favorite songs are Trouble, Runaway, Rich and Let Nas Down.
Jun 18, 2013Nice album. I really don't understand why some people think J. Cole is boring, or some critics think he
lacks charisma. J Cole did mention that it was going to be a darker album, and for me the production and lyrics are on point.
EVERYONE SUPPORT J COLE BY BUYING HIS ALBUM!! LETS TRY TO HELP HIM OUTSELL YEEZUS (Another great album by the way)!
Jun 18, 2013It is not a bad album. It is definitively better than its predecessor. But J. Cole is missing something what makes the other rappers special. He sounds like a normal person and even though normal person can be a great rapper (see Big K.R.I.T.), J. Cole isn't that case. The album is too long with too few themes but that doesn'tmake it boring. Just average with really impressive production. J. Cole improved and there remains still room for another improving. And Im looking forward to it.… Expand
Jun 18, 2013Didn't think he would beat his first album bet he did. The lyrics were deep, the beat was dope. Not a song on the album that you can't listen to. 21 songs for 13.99 is crazy good value.
Jun 18, 2013Huge improvement from his debut! Though some people think all J Cole is talking about is girls, there is a deeper meaning that I was able to grasp. Besides the lyricism in Yeezus was much worse. I thought it was very cohesive, and there were no duds except maybe She Knows). 10/10.
Jun 18, 2013Album is a HUGE step up from his debut, one would wonder where the hunger went there. Shows great improvement as a producer as well. Album is a 10/10 to me.
Jun 18, 2013It really is an astounding from the crap that comes out of the Hip-Hop/Rap industry these days. J. Cole's first effort was very limited and he took the world by charge when his album was #1 when it released. So, it was just another mainstream rap album with a new voice behind a mic. But not with Born Sinner, JC's most anticipated sophomore albu (for me atleast). The reason why i was so hyped for this album was this rapper was given more freedom this time around, and i knew he would deliver. Now i'm not going to lie, the beats used in this album don't partically attune to the style of rap i listen to, but i know the work that was put into this album and this is J.COLES album. J.Coles RAP album. And it is definitley an album RAP needs. Maybe there is hope, for the rare occurences of good music that come sof the genre these days. 9/10 Excellent.… Expand
Jun 19, 2013This album is a lot different then his first album CWTSS he doesn't seem to try to appeal to radio. I feel like this album is more of that old J Cole. The production and substance on the album is amazing.
Jun 19, 2013Best album ive heard all year. Good beats and lyrics. This is leaps and bounds better than yeezus. This is real hip hop not an experiment gone horribly wrong.
Jun 19, 2013Listened to the album back to front decent album highlights are land of the snakes rich runaway ant that some interlude cooked smile and sparks will fly
Jun 20, 2013In all honesty I felt that this album was a great effort by Mr. Cole musically. Itay not be new from his earlier work, but you can't deny the measage he is spilling out. Yes, people may disagree with the productiom, but I felt it was in the right step from his earlier project. Lyrics were inspiring, while the subject matter was interesting. Good work Mr. Cole.
Jun 20, 2013This is a big step up from his first album. This really grew on me after 5 more listens. Best songs are power trip, rich runaway, chaining day, let nas down, and born sinner.
Jun 20, 2013Leaps and bounds better than his freshman album, Cole's sophomore offering is impressive. I honestly haven't found a single song on the album that I wouldn't listen to again. The production is off the charts, and he has grown as a rapper tremendously. The skits (especially the first one) could have been left out, but overall I have listened to the album about 10 times now and it hasn't gotten old. It's not GKMC level greatness, but it's what I will be listening to for a while.… Expand
Jun 21, 2013Though the album doesn't compare to classics like "The Warm Up" or "Friday Night Lights," "Born Sinner" is a solid step up from "Cole World: The Sideline Story" both lyrically and production-wise. While the album can lull at times, the overall lyricism is on-point, making "Born Sinner" a worthwhile, enjoyable listen.
Jun 21, 2013Solid album, a few issues.
Rhyme-wise... really feeling it. His lyrics actually have substance, story, something going on besides just words that rhyme or forcing words to rhyme that don't. Some tracks have some pretty whack lyrics and chorus (i.e. Hate Rich People God D#mmit) that just sounds very amateur.
The last handful of tracks feel like his real album (not in a good way). What I mean, you can tell the underproduced stuff towards the end was his real stuff before producers dropped cash into him. Some cutting room floor these songs should have hit.
Some tracks have some R&B soul to them on the level of Drake, and that's a style that's going to fade real quick. Sometimes Cole has the attitude and voice emulation of Kanye and some rhymes that are purposefully bitten sounds mixtape worthy only (i.e. Busta Rhymes bite).
The song with Kendrick Lamar is solid, mostly you just want to hear more Kendrick. Cole has lyrics but how delivers them seem lacking attitude or soul, again as exhibited by hearing Kendrick on the track you can see what I mean.
Cole has got the rhyme power maybe next time we can hear something a little more dirty and less radio friendly.… Expand
Jun 22, 2013First album I've purchased in a long time....I smell album of the year and tons of grammys! I can't remember when I was able to listen to an album beginning to end with such flow and continuity! Cole is amazing creatively and lyrically. This album is a must have!
Jun 23, 2013This album is a stellar example of a piece of art being ignored on its own merit because of what it is placed next to in the gallery. I am of course referring to the massive comparison battle it is having with Kanye West's album Yeezus. While I understand it is something that Cole asked for by moving up his release date, I think this album needs to be looked at on its own and analyzed without people circlejerking about which artist is better. The most important point I can make before going into my actual review is that IT ISN'T A BAD THING that Cole doesn't go on some experimental journey with this album. It's his second album, and he still has yet to prove himself to be an exceptional talent. He is sticking to what he knows, polishing it, and releasing what he hopes will provide the proof that he deserves more attention.
Born Sinner is a vastly intriguing album, with a sonic pallet that doesn't range as far as some hip hop albums, but not to its disadvantage. Cole understand what he can do, he understand what he should be doing, and he pulls it off with an almost perfect touch.
Firstly, the production. All across the album, Cole shows his impressive musicianship with almost entirely self produced tracks. From the ungodly catchy Power Trip, to the soulful Trouble, to the harsh drive of She Knows, and the beautiful accumulation in the album's title track, Cole shows a mastery that is almost unheard of in a sophomore album. He weaves instruments together in ways that aren't too jarring or experimental, but he also keeps the sonic waves changing directions and keeps everything from sounding in any way repetitive. I could listen to this album with a complete lack of lyrics and be thoroughly pleased by the experience.
Lyricism is where Cole really shines though, and this album is no different from his past works. He has a wit that never quits and he knows how to flow over a beat like almost no other. As always he also tries to keep his focus on the way his world exists. He lets loose on his struggles with staying faithful, his love of materialism, his hate of materialism, his embarrassments, and he does it all in style. He tries to paint the climate of his mind across our eardrums, and he comes out looking like what he is, a still growing young entertainer, who is unsure how to handle life. The name of the album says it all, Cole is a Born Sinner, and he is struggling to find a way to control all of his desires and to learn from his mistakes.
All in all, I think this is an album that must be listened to very attentively over a multitude of days. It takes time to notice its nuances and clever structure. The only thing I have to say against it is that Cole still hasn't found his story. He's mastered how he's going to tell it, he just needs an inspiration.
Lyricism: 9.5/10
Production: 9.5/10
Content: 9/10
General Cohesion: 8/10… Expand
Jun 24, 2013It's a good album, it has it's highs and lows. Most tracks seem to be well thought out and produced well, I do have to say that the top songs we're Power Trip, Born Sinner and Miss America. Is it worth it buying it? Yea, go buy it, it's an album that you will enjoy.
Jun 24, 2013Quality release from a quality artist. I am a little disappointed due to my super high expectations but overall I thought this project was good. His production is definitely evolved but I still prefer The Come Up, The Warm Up, & Friday Night Lights over his studio releases.
Jul 4, 2013In a world of mediocre hip hop and similar-sounding, simple lyrics, J Cole's "Born Sinner" is a refreshing glass of spiked ice tea. He's still growing and it's apparent, but this album was clearly centered around his passion and emotions. His dark side is intriguing and makes the listener anxious for more, eager to experience his continued growth.
Jul 7, 2013J.Cole Pours Out Everything that he wanted to deliver on Cole World Sideline Story...Lyrically J.Cole Spills Outs His Darkest Thoughts and Sincerity. Beautiful Tracks Like "Runaway" and "Rich Shows why J.Cole May have the ability to rise to the top. Personal Tracks Like "Let Nas Down" and "Born Sinner" shows that J.Cole will never lose sight of what he is and what he wants to become. This Album may not completely broadcast j.cole's ability but its brings light to what he has in store for the future.… Expand
Jul 10, 2013Yeezus>Born Sinner> Magna Carta Holy Grail. When this album came out I didn't give it must thought because even though I do like J.Cole I was not a J.Cole fan, and I am a huge fan of Kanye's music so I only paid attention to Yeezus. Even though Yeezus is a classic album that does not mean J.Cole's album is bad. After giving it a listen its actually a really good album that deserves a listen. The lyrics, subject matter, overall production, and cohesiveness of this album does not match Kanye's but this album still scores in all of those categories better than I expected. Songs like Land of the Snakes, Trouble, Let Nas Down, and Crooked Smile are the best songs on the album, but my only complaint about this album is that some of the songs seem to drag on and on and the songs after Born Sinner the title track make no sense at all. But overall this album is great and deserves a listen.… Expand
Jul 11, 2013This will be a clasic Hip Hop album and the future of Hip Hop is looking brighter. In a world of what I call "ignorant rap" i.e. anything made by 2Chaniz it is nice to get someone who is taking their time to work on their craft and actually sit down and WRITE their lyrics down and it shows in this album that JC is true to Hip-Hop and it's culture. One of the most surprising songs on the album was "Chaining Day" There is line in that song that touches the trueness of what buying these "Chains" really means. Buy this album!… Collapse
Jul 12, 2013Even at he's worst (which Born Sinner is), J Cole is better than 90 percent of rappers out there, but after this album has defiantly took him out of the top 5; terrible work, especially for talent as great as Cole.
Jul 15, 2013This is one of my favorite albums so far in 2013. Some of the beats where wack, but lyrics just made up for that. I have to say this is a big step up from Cole World.
Jul 21, 2013Hey...this is also a very good album! He may truly be hip-hop's savior! I can listen to this album all the way through from beginning to end. Now that's a good album!
Jul 22, 2013In this album, J. Cole demonstrates his skill as a rapper and producer. Despite Born Sinner is a respectable album, this album is a step backwards compared to Cole World: The Sideline Story.
Jul 24, 2013Don't get me wrong, J. Cole's sophomore album "Born Sinner" isn't a bad effort by any means, it just isn't quite enough. Throughout, both the lyricism and production on this LP seem to fall just a bit too flat. And yet, it really is difficult for me to express any particular flaw in the album. The beats are groovy, the lyrics are clever, and the hooks are catchy. But it just isn't quite there. Overall, it seems like Cole didn't try all that hard. There are a few tracks on the LP that stand out in both lyrical content and production, but the rest seem to be ever so slightly uninspired.
Unfortunately for Cole, "Born Sinner" has been compared side by side with Kanye's new LP "Yeezus" since its initial release. But fans of J. Cole have nothing to worry about, 'Born Sinner' is on every level superior to Kanye and Mac Miller's new albums. Overall, I find myself with very little to say about this album. It's just... ok. If anything the thematic substance is a bit weak, but that is an adjective I could use for practically every characteristic of the album. A decent 7/10 for this album might be generous, but for some reason I can't really see myself scoring it any lower. I've found myself going back to it several times since it came out, and yet I don't love it, so I feel a 7/10 is adequate.
'Born Sinner'
'Let Nas Down' (hands down best track on the album)
'Villuminati'… Expand
Jul 28, 2013J. Cole is a talented emcee. Unfortunately, Born Sinner isn't up to his standard. Gifted with a unique style, Cole doesn't need to copy any rapper. At times Sinner sounds like Take Care... but r&b/rap sound is better left to Drake. Cole struggles with this mellow sound, and doesn't have a natural singing voice. The times he is best on Born Sinner is when he is eating up beats and making bangers. This sound is almost nowhere to be found, and overall the album suffers because of it. I'm convinced that J. Cole has longevity in this game, but efforts like Born Sinner wont solidify him. Overall, Cole's second album lacks the energy of his first, has repetitive, boring production, and is below the par he set with Cole World.… Expand
Aug 28, 2013J. Cole takes a step up with Born Sinner. Leading up to it with the Truly Yours series he sets the stage for a thematically organized and poignant album that illuminates Jermaine Cole's journey in the rap industry and showcases his ability as a lyricist.
Sep 21, 2013A solid album by J. Cole. Most people hate on him because he went up against Kanye and has outsold him to this point. In due time Born Sinner will get it's proper recognition as an important album from an important artist. The impact it had with Nas, and Cole's boldness and bravado definitely make this his most interesting and inviting album. Multiple gems on this album.
Nov 12, 2013EVERYTHING about this album is a big and huge step up from his last album, Cole World: The Sideline Story. Lots of songs on here are really good. Be sure to buy this album if you like the songs!
Nov 20, 2013Born Sinner is this decade's Late Registration, its themes styles and production methodology are a strikingly poetic ode to Kanye's second album. it is one of the finest rap albums of the year and will be a big contender for the Rap Album Grammy.
Dec 18, 2013Definitely an excellent album and it shows real character growth from the first album. The sound is more cohesive and the production on this one is top notch. Where the first album felt a little bit to label driven this album seems like it's Jermaine own product. The things I didn't like about this album were his tendency to be a bit too humble and not step in and be aggressive enough like he does on the first track. And although I like 'chaining day' I didn't feel like it should have been on this album unless it was a bonus track. It just didn't feel right in the tone this album was setting. Certainly a must listen for any cole fan, but I really feel he can do better and I hope this is a stepping stone for an even greater album… Expand
Jan 10, 2014Born Sinner reminded me of Kanye West's debut album The College Dropout. The production was very soulful and it worked in his favour. His album also tells a story we want to listen to which is evident in Crooked Smile, Let Nas Down and Chaining Day. However, I felt like there were a little too many fillers on the album that made the album seem repetitive. Nonetheless, it was an overall success.
Jan 16, 2014Great step up, my favorite track is Let Nas Down. He does a great job with his storytelling, proves he is Jay's secret weapon at the Roc. I liked it just as much as Yeezus
Feb 10, 2014Born Sinner is a step up from J. Cole's debut album. He reminds me strongly of Nas in this album. The lyrics are impressive, but a lot of the album sounded the same and the message of the album was pretty stale. He didn't push the envelope when it came to taking on relevant, socially conscious topics. Cole does, however, sound more confident than in Cole World: The Sideline Story. His mic presence is starting to take shape. It's great that he clearly takes cues from Kanye, Nas, and sometimes Jay Z, but if Cole wants to cement himself as a big figure in hip-hop he needs to go off in his own direction and do his own thing. Cole has the talent to be a legend, but I'm not sure if he's ever going to harness it properly. Overall though, Born Sinner's lyrics and flow makes me give it an 8. Even at his worst, Cole is better than most rappers in the game. ~ 7.9/10
Best track: "Let Nas Down" -- The storytelling of Cole on this song is incredible. Also, I love the use of a saxophone in the background.
Other notable tracks: "Trouble", "Rich **** "Forbidden Fruit", "Miss America" & "New York Times"… Expand
Feb 18, 2014I don't understand why this is rated so low compared to other rap albums released in 2013. This is better than most of them. It has some of the best production around. The samples are absolutely fantastic. J. Cole's rapping is pretty great, accompanied by very good lyrics.
It's actually pointless to state my favorite tracks, 'cause that'll be like writing the track listing (or more than half of it, anyway). But i do recommend the Deluxe Edition. It has some mesmerizing tracks in it.
It may not be innovative or groundbreaking or anything like that; but with an album this good, it really doesn't need to be. Beautiful. Absolutely Beautiful.… Expand
Mar 19, 2014I was not a fan of Cole's first release and I was rather skeptical going into this album. After giving it a few listens, i was addicted. This album shows what he can truly do as not just a rapper, but as a great producer. While the mainstream singles are catchy, songs such as "Runaway" and "Rich **** show his true potential. NAS comparisons galore. Enough said.
Apr 25, 2014Very solid follow up to Cole World: The Sideline Story, but still not on the level of his mixtapes. The album flows very well lyrically and musically since Cole handles both areas by himself. "Villuminati" is a fantastic intro, and "Power Trip" is one of my favorite radio singles in a long while. Born Sinner has solid replay value, but I really have to be in a certain mood to want to listen to it. I also don't feel like it has a track as good as "Lost Ones", "Farewell", "Losing My Balance", etc. highlighting the album. I'm really hoping mixtape Cole reappears with his next album as he branches out to more producers and artists and their sounds and ideas.… Expand
Jul 15, 2013He's certainly impressed with his flow, delivery and production, and while he hasn't released the next golden hip hop album he's coming close.
Jul 9, 2013There are some solid points buried deep down in the wreckage of Cole's seven-bar pileup, but you'll have to sift through a great, big, ambivalent pile of solecisms in order to get to them. As it turns out, that holds true for the vast majority of Born Sinner.
Jul 2, 2013Three years after his album should have put the "sideline" comments to rest, Cole's still studying the traditional playbook from the bench, preferring to follow Nas' bible than strike out on his own.


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- Publisher: Telltale Games
- Release Date: Nov 21, 2012
- Also On: PlayStation 3, Xbox 360
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Generally favorable reviews- based on 340 Ratings
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Mixed: 7 out of 340
Negative: 20 out of 340
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Feb 1, 2014This review contains spoilers, click expand to view. It's at the end when you are faced with only the decision of whether or not to shoot Lee that you realise none of the decisions you made impacted the ending at all. There are only two endings and it is something you can decide at the end. However, the gameplay is just as good as the other episodes.… Expand
Nov 22, 2012oh my the final episode was mind blowing with emotions i felt like crying at ending it was heart reaching it made me sad but when the episode ended i thought something would we would see it but then it stop i was like wtf make me wanting more........
telltale u done again perfect end for first season game hope second game more better
Nov 24, 2012Episode 5 is solid though it feels a bit rushed compared to other episodes, and you pretty much knew how it was going to end at the end of the last one. Despite this, it still manages to be touching and have an incredible story. If I were able to rate the episodes collectively I would place them at a 9.
Nov 24, 2012This particular episode was weak for multiple reasons: 1.) it was very short. Easily less than 1 hour and I don't play fast. 2.) The gameplay was weak even when compared to previous episodes. Often times it was just walking on rails with no exploring at all. 3.) The dialogue options were weak. 4.) The ending was pretty obvious after episode 4 and imo wasn't all that powerful. I like the overall story but the characters for the most part leave something to be desired. I would like to see a more ingenious, creative character................................................ Now for an overall picture I give the game a 6/10. I agree with some of the negative posters saying the advertising is a little misleading because you do not determine the outcome of anything, there isn't much exploring which would be great in a game like this, and there aren't that many choices. It's not so much the gameplay, which definitely needs to be improved even by telltale standards, as it is the design. It just falls short on several levels including the length of each episode, how your choices don't matter after a little while, how you seem to have no control over your next action, etc. I think a lot of this fell on budget issues and since this game sold well I am hoping that the sequel will be stronger. I also wish this was released all as one game as it would have been a better experience compared to 5 split episodes over 7 months with each one being of varying quality. I would say for the next one in the series that if the developers can increase the length to 20+ hours with some actual replay value and maybe a few other options I'd buy it for $60. As it stand now it's really only worth $15 in my opinion (12 hour experience playing very slow with no replay value). So I recommend it if you can get it on sale somewhere around that price (steam holiday sale).… Expand
Dec 12, 2012Enjoy this game for what it is, an interactive comic. Taking the series as a whole, zombie fans should definitely not miss this, and more general point-and-click fans will enjoy the storyline also. As a "game" it lacks in interactivity (walk here, click this, hit that mostly), very simple to non-existent puzzles, linear and very little roaming/discovery, and a story-line dialogue-choice system that doesn't make a huge difference to the overall course of the game. If you are a p-and-c fan of say Syberia, Broken Sword, Lost Horizon etc., and looking for good puzzles to work through, this game will disappoint. There's none of that here, with more focus on the story and dialogue. Gets a 6 for the 10 hour gameplay/story in general, plus 1 for being nice to look at and a better than usual ending (imho anyway). Just as well really, as this last episode is the slowest and weakest of them, and a reason why it is probably not strong enough for a replay for me. An enjoyable experience nonetheless.… Expand
Nov 22, 2012The walking masterpiece. I hate zombie games and movies, but this one just let my jaw drop, kicked my ass with emotions, smashed my imagination with a 10-ton blow, and made me yearn form more games with so well-written characters, balanced action, awesome atmosphere, superb dubbing, and engaging storyline. A must-play and the best game of 2012, which proves that even with an old engine and not-so innovative mechanics, games can be mature, enriching and enchanting at the same time. The Walking Dead is bound to become a classic that will be mentioned alongside Indiana Jones and the Fate of Atlantis, Grim Fandango, Monkey Island, Sanitarium, Broken Sword series, and all the cool adventure games that have been recently relegated to indie-game genre.… Expand
Nov 24, 2012I did not expect that a game can reproduce the excitement of the comic / TV series The Walking Dead. I did not expect that at all a game can trigger such emotions. The Walking Dead game introduces a great atmosphere for 5 episodes. Great shows a world of zombies. For the good elements of adventure and action, and choices, is really very good. It is a pity that the engine is really weak, and I wish that the elections did not produce a little more impact on the game. However, it is great. My Rating - 9/10… Expand
Feb 3, 2014Story: 7 out of 10, Graphics: 7 out of 10, Fun: 8 out of 10, Controls: 8 out of 10, Ease to Learn: 9 out of 10, Length: 8 out of 10, Re-play: 5 out of 10, Value: 8 out of 10
I have a low re-play score on this game because when you re-play the game (which there is a strong desire to re-play this game to try other choices) the new different choices you make either 1) don't make much difference and/or 2) the way the main character and other characters act/re-act for non-mainstream choices is highly unrealistic. I really loved this game and would of given it a 9 for my over-all score, but the re-play that I was anxious to try was a real dud and took away from my original experience; thus giving the game an over-all score of 8.… Expand
Nov 24, 2012Very touching end to this story arch (apparently there may be more), but also frustrating because of the cheap deaths, a disappointing epilogue and many questions left unanswered. Definitely worth playing overall, especially if you are a fan of dark games/stories.
Nov 21, 2012This review contains spoilers, click expand to view. You cannot save yourself and Clementine. The girl will be left alone with all what she learned from Lee and eventually stumble upon two strangers at the very end. Implying she will live with a new family. Lee was her family, the last game confirms her real parents are dead. I like happy endings, it would have been a good ending just to lose your arm and start a new life, but they kill our character. All was in vain.… Expand
Nov 21, 2012I don't know what to say... This game has been quite a journey. I have never felt so into the atmosphere of a game like this before. Every moment was amazing and I will never forget this game.
The pacing is top notch, the story-telling is unbelievably well done, the characters continue to stay as amazing as they were before.
I don't cry during video games.
That law just changed.
Nov 25, 2012Not much I can say but this The Walking Dead has one of the best stories ever in a game. You can't name many games that have made you cry, I can't but this is one of them and I'm happy to have played it. Yeah there isn't much gameplay but it isn't about that and if thats what you were hoping for, well sorry. Also I don't get why people keep saying this episode is rushed, NO TIME LEFT!
Kinda says it all, you're running out of time. This is it, all we've been leading up to, there is no time to stop and think just do what needs to be done.… Expand
Dec 5, 2012Probably the best zombie game I have ever played. When I first looked into this game, I thought it would be some shooter resident-evil wannabe, then I found out it was a graphic adventure with lots of action on it, which is really original and cool. But what I liked the most was the story, so epic and inmersive, really at the level of the TV series and more touchy. The flawless voice acting helps a lot.
The other strong point in the game is the dialogue choice options. Everything you say almost always have some kind of impact in the story, from gaining influence over some pal of your group, to trigger a whole situation that may save your life or kill you. In fact, the difficulty of the game is not killing the zombies, but preventing your group to split or fall into hysteria.
The only thing that could be better, are the puzzles. For a graphic adventure the puzzles are quite weak, but it kind of compensates with a great dose of action. All crowned with a great and moving ending.
This game is a must have so try it. You won't be dissapointed.… Expand
Nov 21, 2012This review contains spoilers, click expand to view. I am disgusted, truly disgusted. The two is for the whole game. All that time waiting and making choices come to find out that no matter what you picked, no matter how many different options you try, you will get the same exact ending, as will the rest of the characters. I was pretty sure that it was a zombie action tale, but no, it is a painstakingly long drug out Soap-Opera with some zombies that spoon feeds you the story by not giving you any game play besides point and click where it tells you to. I will not be purchasing their next trap known as "Season 2" of this. I am not going to wait another ten months for something they said would be done in five months for something that tries to get you emotional but is so badly done that the only emotion I feel is to vomit all over the game for actually waiting for that. This is more proof that companies do not care about their users, just their own profit and how to maximize it.… Expand
Dec 29, 2012Episode 5 is the last episode of the Walking Dead: Season 1. I found this episode very moving, with great dialogue and action sequences (as throughout the series). The ending is also worthwhile, which is nice. But my favorite part of this series is just playing through it. I feel like I was there with these people: Lee, Clementing, Duck, Kenny... all of them. And not too many games can do that.… Expand
Nov 21, 2012Wheezy247
I am going to be honest. Until the Walking Dead game series that Telltale has brilliant crafted, I cannot remember the last time I played a point and click adventure game, but I sure am glad I tried it again. Throughout the entire series, I saw my choices have an influence on what happened later in the episode or in later episodes, but never as much as that that is seen in the final episode "No Time Left." Telltale has successfully created a game that blends a unique art style, wonderful voice acting and a story that is probably the best story you'll play this entire year to create a series that, I believe, will have an impact on the future story development of video games. After playing through all of the episodes, I can definitely say that this was the most enjoyable episode, previously episode 2. It is such a delight to see how Telltale managed to bring the entire story together. The emotion that is brought out by the story and voice acting is so powerful, I almost cried at certain parts. I don't want to spoil the ending, but let's just say I can't wait for Telltale's newly announced Season 2. If you haven't played this game yet, you owe it to yourself to play all of the episodes. Telltale's series is not perfect, but the way they brought it all together at the end makes you understand why this game should be considered for game of the year. I would give it a 9.5/10.… Expand
Nov 30, 2012I'm disappointed by season finale. I expected it to have few endings depend on the choices you made earlier. But whatever choices you made, ending is still the same. So much for creating your own story.
Dec 7, 2012The half life series was what I always considered my all time favorite game, nothing else matched it though few came close namely wind waker, metro 2033, oddworld, heart of darkness, and a few more. Telltale's walking dead however makes me question what my favorite game of all time is. Holy sht this game was indescribable. If ever a game was deserving of a perfect score, this is it. Game of the year easily (to me at least).… Expand
Jul 10, 2013This review contains spoilers, click expand to view. Such a disappointment. All of you need to stop judging it on the ending. I'll look at the whole level. It has a great opening, but after the boat stolen scene, it starts to unravel a bit. When you see the dead couple, Kenny claims suicide is bad, but if you saved Ben, he pretty much locks himself in a alley with walkers to DIE. WTF? And his other death is clearly rushed. It picks up after the part where Lee is seperated, and I like the Stranger reveal, definatly unexpected. I actually started to sympathise with him, and when I killed him, I shot him out of sympathy. But the end was a mixed bag. It evoked emotion out of me a game never had and still hasn't. But it made no sense. What was the point of cutting your arm off? It doesn't matter as you still die. And no matter how bad you are to Clementine, she still cries like a baby when Lee dies. It pulls a ME3, as in your choices don't matter. A good episode, but disappointing as a finale.… Expand
Jan 1, 2013This review contains spoilers, click expand to view. After essentially raping the player with the illusion of choice and that decisions make a different in the earlier episodes and then suddenly revealing that nothing you do makes any difference whatsoever, and then providing lackluster gameplay with horrible controls and shallow characters who you can't affect in any way, and then rushing the player through extremely scripted events and an extremely linear and disappointing story, the last thing you want to do is attempt to create a emotional and impactful ending. This "sad" ending just completely destroys the only aspect of the game I enjoyed. When the rest of the game is such garbage, the least you could provide the player is a satisfying resolution to the story in which the player feels like what they did throughout the episodes was not for naught, and in the end their efforts would actually result in something. Do not simply kill off every character and then leave the player without a proper resolution to the story. Absolutely disappointing. Not only is the story weighed down with a negative tone, but the entire series is just trash. In a nutshell, the Walking Dead game series is a complete waste of money and time.… Expand
Dec 2, 2012The ending absolutely sucked. The consequences of so called "decision making" are non existent, from what I can see. I enjoyed this "game", if that's what you want to call it, because the story was pretty entertaining and intriguing but this pathetic episode pretty much ruined the experience. What the hell?
Dec 20, 2012Once you realize the decisions you make dont matter at all, and if you are able to look past the not very impressive gameplay, the story this game tells is pretty good. Even if I felt cheated by the game once I found out it didnt give a crap about what I chose, Im giving it a 7 for being the first game I ever played that had a child that not only didnt annoy me, but also was a really likable character.… Expand
Nov 28, 2012The game overall was somewhat disappointing. I liked episode 3 best, but the last episode was my least favorite. Some of the user actions sequences were just a waste and had no effect or consequence and I was really hoping that you would have a different outcome for the end depending on the choices you made. This game would have been a 10 if your outcome in each episode could have been different. The last episode seemed rushed and not that well planned. If they do another, I hope it has more consequences for your actions.… Expand
Nov 23, 2012This review contains spoilers, click expand to view. I am absolutely speechless, this series has evoked more emotional response than any other game i have ever played, the final scene between clementine and lee was so heartbreaking but beautifully done,i am not ashamed to admit that me, being a legal adult was sobbing and in tears by the final scene, i really hope they do another season as it ended on a pretty big cliffhanger, bravo telltale, you have created a masterpiece of a game.… Expand
Nov 26, 2012The game ends on a fantastic and very sad climax which pulls at your heart strings. Here the choices are taken away from you almost completely except for minor changes in characterisation. The game is far far too short, giving maybe an hours worth of enjoyment but you will feel drained and emotionally raw after completing this game An excellent story behind a medecocre game.
May 8, 2013This episode is a masterpiece, although short it was totally breath-catching, depressing and emotionally engaging.....................................
Nov 22, 2012What an epic conclusion to an epic series. In my top 3 games of the year. I thought I was going to cry during the final scene. Wouldn't have minded waiting a couple of extra weeks for them to create more content as I do think (at around a quarter of the length of the others) it represents poor value for money when compared to the other episodes. For this reason, I give it 9.5. I hope season 2 can live up to the huge expectations that will surely be placed on it after all the GOTY's it will scoop. On a side note, the characterisations are so good that when me and the gf watch the series, we comment how bland they are compared to the game.… Expand
Dec 1, 2012This game, as a whole and this finale especially, is storytelling at its finest. There are many branching paths possible for this final episode and Telltale games made it difficult for themselves with the ridiculous combination of options they gave you leading up to this point. They did a terrific job, though. Few faults exist for this game, if any. If you want a story-driven/choice-driven gaming experience, this is perfect.… Expand
Nov 21, 2012Episode 5 is simply amazing. I've been gaming since the 8-bit era and this game has the most well crafted story I've ever played. No ending could have been more appropriate for the series and I honestly believe it tops Episode 2. Can't say much more without spoiling it, but grab this game as soon as you can. Oh, and tell all your friends about it too. No one should get left out of this one
Nov 26, 2012I'm rather reviewing the whole series than just episode 5 because I think you have to look at the big picture here.
Yes the game has it's flaws: technical errors (had to play the series with shadows turned off despite my more than decent rack) and, as stated by many others, the choices you make don't change the outcome like some might've wished they would. The comic-look is a pure matter of taste, I can understand that some people might not like it, but I do.
BUT apart from it's deficiencies this here is something unique and I'm glad there's gonna be another series. This is not about 20 different endings or alike, it's about hope and how you're not to loose it and more importantly pass it on to and raise it in somebody else, especially the young ones.
It's GRIPPING by every meaning of the word. And I can't remember any game that touched and/or moved me like this one, especially no point 'n' click adventure.
I for one don't think the decisions one makes are pointless. I can't fight the feeling that many people have gotten so used to seeing people die on the screen (and I mean everywhere: the news, the movies and video-games) it just doesn't do anything for/with them anymore. I actually felt terrible and sorry for some of the decisions I made and many of the things I've seen in this game.
All in all this game tells a great story with convincing characters and is a stunning, gripping experience. 10 out of 10.… Expand
Nov 27, 2012This will game will have a permanent spot on my top list of games i would recommend. this game was one of the biggest emotional roller coaster rides i have ever taken. this last chapter was a satisfying conclusion to the walking dead episodes. aside from a few graphical glitches and some choices that feel a bit to forced this game always gave me the feeling that i was in control of each situation and that the consequences were my fault. And clementine, my favorite character made me feel very protective of this cute little girl that i would risk my life for. if you're looking for a game with an easy to use interface and a story that keeps you wanting more then pick this one up. you will not regret it.… Expand
Nov 21, 2012One of the best ending of all time, that's for sure. And I'm keeping it real, I cried. I really cried at the ending. Congrats Telltale Games for making this awesome game. And my last words: Game of the Year.
Nov 23, 2012This review contains spoilers, click expand to view. It is sad to notice the game design choices by Telltale - kill off characters to save the amount of variables needed to be dealt with in the next season.Despite the rushed paced of the episode (it will probably last around two hours),the final episode ends the first season satisfactorily. No big surprises, no drawn out puzzles or even moments of peace to converse with your fellow group members. And the guy behind the radio feels abit out of place after his awkward explanation of who he is and why his doing this.
Theres NO TIME LEFT for much, except for Season 2! Till next time when our choices matter more!… Expand
Nov 23, 2012i'll be damned if this game doesn't win the Game Of The Year award though its unusual for an adventure game to win a GOTY award and even more so for a point-and-click adventure game. A poignant yet phenomenal finish to an epic game which has set new standards for story telling in videogames.
I really had given up on videogaming after hours of Call of Duty,Medal Of Honor,Assassin's Creed and craved for something new. This game stunningly surpassed my expectations. I feel it worth mentioning here that i am completely new to point-and-click adventure games,so i was quite skeptical about the idea of a point-and-click adventure game having as much to offer as a fast paced FPS or a thrilling action/adventure game. This game might even seem graphically unappealing to a chunk of gamers but its storyline really overshadows its shortcomings if any. Since its second season will be hitting the shelves soon,i recommend it as a MUST BUY!!!
P.S : If my review seems too exaggerated to some people,i'd recommend a look at the bar above which says "47 positive" and just "1 negative" review.
P.P.S: Telltale Games. you've got a new fan :)… Expand
May 20, 2013My #1 complaint about this game that choices do not matter. No matter what you do you will get the same predictable and disappointing ending. This pretty much ruined for me what could have been an incredible game.
Nov 24, 2012Bloody masterpiece... this game is a howto on making interactive movies. Probably one of the best, if not the best game I've played this year.
Also, the ending, without revealing too much... very touching. Bravo.
Nov 25, 2012This is the best episode of the season by far. You've been building up Lee character as well as his relationships with others through your choices and this is the episode where everything comes to a head. NOTHING will stop Lee from saving Clementine.
The action starts right at the beginning of the episode and never lets up, it may be the shortest episode but it has both the best dialogue and action scenes of the entire series. It's true that you choices don't have a huge affect on the overall events of the narrative, but instead they succeed in making every choice feel personal, every choice you make is based on your personal morals and ethics in situations where there is no right answer. it's without a doubt the best story I've every played through in a game, though it's probably closer to a visual novel than traditional games.… Expand
Dec 2, 2012One of those pieces of art which will get in the deepest corner of your heart and never leave. Telltale's masterpiece has set a new standard in the interactive storytelling and all gamers should celebrate this since we all are witnessing a birth of a new era of story-driven gaming.
Nov 21, 2012Episode 5, the finale... without spoiling anything, it's a satisfying conclusion, even if you think you already know what's going to happen. I'll remember this game for a very long time.
Nov 21, 2012I think this is the best episode of the series. It's simpy amazing, and sad, and it's a very good ending to one of the best game in this year. It is for certain my game of the year.
Nov 27, 2012Amazing game. There is always something going on and you never get bored of it. The TV series were boring and i almost fell asleep on every episode so this game was how the series should be like and not a soap opera with a little who.re Carl. I cant wait for season 2.
Dec 18, 2012Pretty much Cried at the end. No game has ever really struck that cord. They should just keeping making new episodes. man, i really hope they do. EXCELLENT REPLAY VALUE
Nov 21, 2012This review contains spoilers, click expand to view. Great finale episode, the feeling thoughout the entire episode is very tense in a good way and you feel like things in other episodes mattered. only negative things in my mind is that its a bit short and some areas felt like they were underused at times. also i would have like to see a tie-up to both Lily and the "cancer group".
overall an unforgettable season… Expand
Nov 21, 2012As a whole, the story in The Walking Dead is a darn good'n, but Episode 5 feels as though it was rushed. Throughout the episodes, you're inundated with pseudo choices, and what that all amounts to is a universal ending for all. This wouldn't be such a bad thing if the game wasn't marketed as having a unique story where the choices you make alter the game drastically, because they don't. The story somehow loops back around again to follow a set path shortly after making these so-called game changing decisions.
Overall I loved the game and the story, but I believe that Telltale could've done more with regards to the decision making and the impact it had on gameplay. If I had to rate the game as a whole, all episodes included and without taking into account the poor mechanics previously mentioned, I'd give it a ten, no question. I'm left slightly disappointed though.… Expand
Nov 22, 2012Very satisfying and very very emotional ending. I won't state if the ending was very happy or sad because I don't want to put any spoilers. Thus, I will state that the ending felt very emotionally powerful to me. I will be purchasing season 2 of this game.
Nov 22, 2012Telltale had make you attached to the characters for the previous 4 episodes, and it wrapped the story really well. I cried for the first time in my gaming experiences, and I am a 25 years old grown-up man ;_;
Nov 21, 2012Episode 5 is amazing, this is one of the best storydriven games i have ever played and episode 5 does not disappoint in any areas. I can safely say that this episode is the most emotional of all the episodes, the episode with the most action and so on. With a very good story and an in my opinion amazing ending this continues to be my favorite game of the year. I really recommend everyone to pick this game up, it is really amazing.… Expand
Nov 21, 2012A very well done finale to an amazingly well-crafted and emotional story. Most worth-it amount I've spent on a game this year. I'll dock half a point for some minor technical issues like some stuttering in certain areas when transitioning between scenes, but Episode 5 is definitely worth a full 10 for its unforgetttable story and characters. The bar for story-telling in a game has now been raised so high, I look forward to the one which will surpass it. Hopefully, I wouldn't have to wait long, and Season 2 comes out soon. A definite first-day purchase for me.… Expand
Nov 21, 2012I literally can't write any true review of this game, since I only just beat it and my eyes are still soaking wet from tears and I can't see a thing. I have to say, this is the most emotional gaming experience I've ever had. I loved all the episodes, and this one didn't disappoint either. Wonderful writing, characters and sound design. If the season two maintains this level of quality, we might have a new legendary series in gaming. I'm sorry, I can't say anything bad about this episode, it felt like all the technical difficulties weren't there anymore (or maybe at this point I just didn't care about them I just wanted to save little Clementine...). Hats of to Telltale for this season of The Walking Dead, it really honors the original comics and beats the TV series in every possible way. I hope it won't take too long until we get to see what happens next...… Expand
Nov 21, 2012Game Of The Year.....Best game what i ever played........................................................................................................
Nov 21, 2012The final instalment of a really fantastic game! The final "episode" was able to bring a good mix of everything, from the tear jerkers to the edge-of-seat action! It will make the manliest of men be reduced to tears.
Throughout all the games I have ever played, The Walking Dead by Telltale Games is, by a country mile, my all time favourite.
Nov 22, 2012While i think The Walking Dead is one of the best games I've ever played i think episode 5 is by far the best. The other ones were great but this on was not far from PERFECT! As always the voice acting was great especially for Lee and Clementine, but this episode i actually thought Ben was the best. He was very convincing the whole time and i really liked him in this episode. While this episode did feel a bit shorter than the others i think it's the best of the 5 and it still deserves a 10!… Expand
Nov 23, 2012Just awesome! The best of its kind.The story is great the conclusion is a tear jerker and the voice acting is as good as it gets, especially Clementine her voice actress should win awards. I can't recommend this game enough
Nov 23, 2012The Walking Dead has one of the most emotional and well-crafted stories I have ever experienced in a video game. Seeing your love ones go, getting upset, even for your enemies, it's all normal. But this ending... many tears have been fallen for this great ending. I NEVER cried in a video game before. I kind of predicted the ending, but it was so well executed that it still touched my heart. This was the finale this series deserved, and I'll definitely be in line for season 2. Hats off to you Telltale Games.… Expand
This review contains spoilers. Definitely the weakest Episode, both story and gameplay wise. The whole thing felt rushed and there was hardly anything to do and decide (not that decisions would really matter, but still). And despite some good scenes it was pretty much obvious from the end of episode 4 how everything would turn out.
Maybe it's just me but I expect more to "do" when I play a computer game and if a company advertises with how much my choices would matter I also expect to be able to actually influence the course and outcome of the story. Small dialogue changes and deciding which tritagonist may survive one episode longer doesn't really count in my book.
I really wonder why they bothered making a game out of it in the first place and not just some "normal" animated TV series instead. That would've worked just great, but TWD by Telltale fails miserably as an adventure game and even more when compared to what was advertised.
Good for those who like the game, but I think it falls far behind from it's potential.… Collapse
Nov 24, 2012This review contains spoilers, click expand to view. Episode 5...my god episode 5. This is now became my favorite game of all time (or at least favorite story) because of this last episode. At the end of this episode, you can choose to shoot Lee, which I chose. This episode leaves you with the hardest choice of the series, Lee's last words. "I'll miss you," As those last words rolled out of Lee's tongue I let go all of my tears and sobbed. This game brings you to your knees and I almost couldn't stand the sadness. The writers are amazing and should win any award possible.… Expand
Nov 25, 2012This is one of the best games I have ever been able to play though it is a little shorter then the other episodes it was truly breathtaking. Its so dark and sad. Not going for any spoilers but the ending had me in tears. I would definitely say buy this game. Hope it wins GOYT
Nov 27, 2012Amazing game just utter brilliance! I did not regret picking this game up! I know you wouldn't! All 5 episodes were amazing but this one stands the most the great, depressing and sad ending but you'll get over it that's how awesome this game was! And always stay for the credits.
Nov 27, 2012Few games have ever wrenched genuine emotion and sorrow from my gut as brutally as Telltale's take on Robert Kirkman's twisted world. Bravo, Telltale. This game deserves a spot as GOTY, no questions asked. #ForClementine indeed.
Nov 28, 2012In brief. it made me cry. I've never cried for a game before! It is defenitely a masterpiece, mixing the soundtrack, the characters. Oh, the characters!; the atmoshpere... Everything, just.... everything... You know what? If i could, i'll give this a 12/10! Yes! God bless this master minds. You own my true love. Thank you. Keep doing this! Please!
Nov 30, 2012Impeccably written, intensely shot, impossibly alive characters, top-notch pacing and a bravura performance from Melissa Hutchinson, a.k.a. Clementine, who is destined to be named as the most fully realized child character (if not just simply CHARACTER) in the history of video games from now on. The Walking Dead Episode 5 is everything you could wish for, the finale to a series so meticulously crafted, that's it destined to leave a mark in every single gamer that had the chance to experience this dramatic miracle.. The ending, itself, is shocking, gut-wrenching, emotionally merciless and, most of all, absolutely, positively unforgettable. A HUGE thank-you to Telltale Games for offering a true masterpiece that is Walking Dead. They actually managed to make me CRY. Thank you.… Expand
Jan 1, 2013Man this was epic I can't believe what happened happened if you have a chance pick this up its the ultimate game one of the best episodes in the series holy poop
Jan 3, 2013I'm not really into this kind of genre, but i had to give it a try because of the good reviews, and i can surely tell you that the game isn't a waste of time, in fact, i'm very happy i gave it a chance.
It's one of the best games i have ever played, not because of the genre itself, in fact as a "game" isn't that cool, but the storyline was really good,
I didn't liked the fact that, no matter what decisions you make, the game will do what it has to do, but this "decision making" thing it's in fact, what makes a connection between you and the main character. That's why it didn't bothered me at the end.
The story is excellent, the graphics ain't bad, the game itself it's "not bad", i would give the game a 10 if it was another genre, and maybe if it was more like "a game".
I only see this game as an..."interactive animated movie", not like a real game, but god, it's totally worth your time.… Expand
Jan 7, 2013This is the first time ever I write a review for a game: for this one, I simply had to. This is the best game I have ever played. Period. This is as close as you can get to perfection: the story, the characters, the atmosphere, the emotions, the moral dilemmas... Telltale have not only demonstrated that they are the masters of point-and-click adventure games, they have demonstrated that this type of game can give an experience as satisfying as any other. Because Telltale has understood what is the foundation of any successful game: the story, the story, the story. You can have fantastic graphics and great game-play mechanics, but none of that matters in the end if the story sucks. Let me just end this review with one last comment. I am really not a particularly sentimental guy, but this game made me shed quite a few tears. I don't recall that happening with any other video game, and I'm speaking of hundreds of them (yeah, I've been around for quite a while...). Needless to say, I hope that Telltale will go on with this series for many more seasons. Cheers!… Expand
Jan 17, 2013How the **** did this game get 9 out of 10??? I created an account just so i could comment about that like really??? 9 out of 10??? I finished the game in 4 hours (the whole game) there's obviously no real choices you can make , the graphic were nothing special (borderlands kinda rip off) , the game has no replay value whatsoever , you just point and click pretty much the whole game, theres like 2-3 shootings scenes (1 of them is showed in the trailer ) like wtf Metacritic , 9 OUT OF 10 ?????? The only thing good about this game is the voice acting, other than that its just another game taking advantages of a succeful franchise . Dont buy this game , i was tempted when i saw it as top sellers on Steam and now regret my actions.… Expand
This review contains spoilers. Definitely the weakest Episode, both story and gameplay wise. The whole thing felt rushed and there was hardly anything to do and decide (not that decisions would really matter, but still). And despite some good scenes it was pretty much obvious from the end of episode 4 how everything would turn out.
Maybe it's just me but I expect more to "do" when I play a computer game and if a company advertises with how much my choices would matter I also expect to be able to actually influence the course and outcome of the story. Small dialogue changes and deciding which tritagonist may survive one episode longer doesn't really count in my book.
I really wonder why they bothered making a game out of it in the first place and not just some "normal" animated TV series instead. That would've worked just great, but TWD by Telltale fails miserably as an adventure game and even more when compared to what was advertised.
Good for those who like the game, but I think it falls far behind from it's potential.… Collapse
Jan 29, 2013No Time Left is Telltale's best effort to date. It has the longest heart-to-heart talk in the entire game, the most exciting action sequence featuring Lee, a hatchet and a horde of zombies, and a quiet, emotional climax.
Dec 18, 2012The last episode of The Walking Dead is a worthy finale for a well crafted and emotional adventure game.
Dec 3, 2012It's extraordinarily rare for a game to possess scenes of such powerful emotion, but Telltale have managed something special with The Walking Dead finale, and it'd be a tragedy to miss it.


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