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Eagerly awaiting this one, other videos I've seen aren't to clear on how the OT handles the golems and I've seen different graphics for the scorch all over the place.
Gogo Cider
Lore's UI (10 Man Videos): http://www.tankspot.com/forums/f211/...lore-s-ui.html
Ciderhelm's UI (25 Man Videos): http://www.tankspot.com/forums/f211/...formation.html
Please post any questions about UI/Addon's in their respective threads and not in this thread
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An error occurred, please try again later. You lied to me Cider.
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Good job Cider, as allways
Former known as Skrigeren
Excellent guide, we struggled with this last night using a different (and much worse) positioning approach. I wonder what options there are that don't require 2 druids in the raid?
Hey Cider by any chance you or someone could upload a transcript of you dialog, so I can translate it to spanish for my fellow guild members? I'd like to help do so for the rest of the community, as time is avaliable for me to do it. Nice vid.
10 man encounter is extremly overtuned though. We wiped 21 times until we realized that the top guild on our server had disposed of Yogg-saron, but not of Ignis.
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Gertiploiss, the tank without a cause or reason.
What I did tanking this in 25man was placing the scorches in a circle around the raid, much closer and overlapping than in this movie, this helped the DKs handling the adds that there were no gaps so stacks of the debuff didn't fall off the adds. Also the melee never had to move, just turn as the boss shift around them. The only people moving was the tanks.
Also, on 10-man, if you have a geared enough tank and good dps and healers, it's entirely possible to tank Ignis in the water so there are no scorch debuffs (the scorch will go away instantly if it touches the water) to worry about and just off-tank the adds the whole time (we did that this week). He'll be hitting extremely hard at the end, but it's doable if your raid can handle the damage.
For 10 man we ended up kiting the golems and not bothering to kill them... effectively brute forcing the encounter. This was obviously dependant on having best 25 man naxx gear and I don't recommend it. In 25 man, we found the tank became unhealable a lot earlier (although I think our healing strategy could have been better too) but the process we had for dealing with golems was too slow.
Cider how did you deal with the fact that the Brittle golems when they are killed do 20k damage to anyone within 10 yards? was the person kiting them into the water a tank and you were eating the damage or did you delay killing htem till that person got far enough away or what?
2ndly for ya'll how often were the golems spawning when we tried him on Saturday night it seemed we were getting golems to spawn every 10 to 15 secs and were getting overrun with them.
As mentioned in the video, they used a mage in order to destroy the Brittle Golems. Supposedly the tank that got them into the water was nowhere nearby when this occured.
Gertiploiss, the tank without a cause or reason.
I used a diferent way yesterday, on 10-man. After a wipe, I realized that, if he uses the flame and you are very near the water (or inside), it would just extinguish. So tried this way:
I moved him near the left water, let him flame close the water, but not enough to extinguish. After that, I would move to the water, until the next he cast the second scorch. This made the ground cleaner, less people getting hit be the flame after leaving slagpot. The add tank (yes, we used a tank since we didn't have a druid) could rely on a specificy spot to burn, healers didn't have to worry about LOS when he run to diferents spots.
You may have a downtime of scorch, but nothing more than 2 seconds if you do it right.
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Im not sure how sholo dealt with the aoe damage but I never got hit. When the golem went molten i feral charged and immediately hit with a maul/mangle to break my Natures Grasp. What this also does is put a 50% slowing debuff allowing me to get out of range and into the deep water before he gets to me.
We did this too, instead of 2 scorches per side of the raid I got in 3 and it was a solid line of scorches so there was no problems getting the adds molten.
Also, we had prot war & boomkin doing adds, boomkin would use moonfire while standing in the water after add was molten to break the roots, and the moonkin just did a starfall to shatter the add. There is nobody in 10 yard radius of the pools as they are all in the middle of the area.
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First off, you have 20 seconds to kill the brittle golem, so the offtank who brought it into the water should have plenty of time to get out before a mage hits it. in fact, our offtanks just called out when it was ok to kill it. Our positioning was essentially the same as your Ciderhelm, though i tried putting the scorches a little closer to the water. The four point path works wonders.
It's is indeed possible to tank the golem in the fire while yourself being out of it, but if Ignis cast Flame Jets while you are doing this, the golem will shift and move out of the flame because of you being launched into the air. And every second counts.
Once we decided to witch to 2 DK offtanks, it was an laughable fight on 25 man. The combination of Chains of Ice and Death Grip meant that the DK's took virtually no damage. We're so busy pushing 25 man that we have not yet got around to trying Ignis on 10 man.
Our guild may have discovered a possible intentional area design that makes the encounter much easier. We positioned our ranged and healers on the raised ledge that exists in all but the very middle on each side of the room around the water. This places the majority of the raid directly behind the innactive constructs but about 1 yard off the floor and roughly 1/2 way down from the large pools. We did this for 2 reasons. This ledge has a sharp edge on the side facing the center of the room and a gradual slope on the side facing the pool behind the raid. We noticed that when constructs become molten, then seem to reset aggro (haven't tested it, possible it's just healer aggro on targets not being actively tanked). Constructs cannot path directly to a ranged dps or healer who is standing on the raised ledge. This works to our advantage.
That leads to the 2nd reason. This forces the constructs to run up the only way they can reach the ledge, through the water as they attempt to come up the gradual slope on the back side of the ledge. The end result is the constructs becoming molten, aggroing onto healers since we root them in scorch, and making themselves brittle. Additionally, if they are 1/2 way across the ledge they will be out of range from the AOE caused both by them being molten and then when they are shattered. This strat allows healers and ranged to be fully in LOS of all melee and tanks at all times. It should be noted that Ignis doesn't fall prey to the need to path around the ledge due to his height so it allows him to grab players without having to cause a massive positioning issue.
In the end we tank him with his back to the ledge (any of the 4 ledges will do). We have melee stand just in front of the ledge. Tank him with his back facing melee and ranged, and then line up scorches from left to right and then back again as they fade. We only have to assign 1 person to kite them into the scorches, 2 people to snare them inside, and no one has to worry about them once they become molten since healer aggro takes care of their pathing straight into the water. A single ranged dps doesn't even have to move as they are in LOS from the point where they become brittle as they shatter them.
I hope this helps and hopefully you won't have to re-shoot your video when you see how trivial this makes the encounter. Great job as always.
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To be honest, I also find it a bit disconcerting to be taken to be taken to Activity Stream when I click the top banner, and I'll probably change that. I just don't want to make that change too soon before taking time to get used to it.
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im really not saying get rid of activity streams, i dont think its a bad OPTION to have, but when you type in pokedream.com/forums or click on the forum icon you should go to the forum index. having it right there as a tab to click on to see whats up is fine.
fuck, even the url going to activity streams i dont really care, you can save /forums.php as your bookmark page, but the header really is the issue.
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I strongly believe /forums should be the Activity Stream. I find it superior to navigating from forum to forum to read new posts. Clicking the top banner to go to the forums view is fine, though.
smilies are still around
anything we kept as a vb default would be different, i think we kept wink as default
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the more i use activity stream the more i realise that past a certain threshold of posts/threads it becomes horribly confusing and difficult to use. its a weird mash of who's online and new posts.
it seems like it makes sense for less active forums. with a forum like this which often enough has spurts of activity with large amounts of fairly short posts in the same couple threads, i dunno
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The carob tree, also known as St John's Bread, originates in the Mediterranean region, and carob powder is made from the seed pods and has an appearance and taste similar to chocolate. It beats out the cocoa bean in the health stakes in two major areas – it contains no caffeine and is high in fiber. Carob contains vitamins A, B, B1, B2, B3, B6, D; calcium; iron; potassium; magnesium; manganese; and about 8 percent protein. It's also very rich in pectin and low in sodium. One tablespoon of carob powder contains two grams of fiber and one cup contains about 40 grams. Pectin helps to eliminate toxins from the body. Carob contains carbohydrates, tannins, proteins, minerals and dietary fibers.
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Hyland has been working on gettting a huge set of SVG icons built for blag. Here's the latest draft:
rpm -Uvh http://www.blagblagblag.org/30000/BLAG/RPMS.TESTING/really-little-guys-0.0.2-0blag.fc3.noarch.rpm
Note, there are lots of mis-named icons and stuff. We're actually trying to conform to the freedesktop.org spec. This will be the default icon set in 50k.
Have any of you been using SVG icon sets at all? Any experience on low power machines? Can they swing it? Is it better?
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I personally don't use the SVG... I like the icons but don't really like the square border.
My opinion,I would drop the border and just keep the icon image. (Just a cleaner look).
I know alot of time goes into it,and everyone likes something different.(Can't please 'em all).
Just my opinion, for what its worth.
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i'm using them. i like them too but, on my screen at least, the bottom and r/h borderline of each icon is missing. my screen is pretty fubar'd anyway, since nvidia drivers don't seem to work under fc5.
just to offer balance anyway, i like the square blag icon theme. i've wasted hours tweaking these things but i always revert back to how blag was out of the box. i used the blag icons in e17, too.
the thunderbird icon is the exception. to me, it just looks like a blue wig...
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i'm using them. i like them too but, on my screen at least, the bottom and r/h borderline of each icon is missing.
Yes. This is happening in in 50k for some reason. It doesn't happen in 30k... Doh! We don't know why it's happening yet. If you figure it out...let us know. ;) They appear fine in inkscape.
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There's always something subtly surreal and dreamy about a Rodarte runway show. Almost as though the Mulleavy sisters have gone on some psychedelically induced creative journey before devising each collection.
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Planning Successful Seminars & Workshops
Part One - Initial Steps and Publicity
Initial Planning
A genealogical seminar or workshop fulfills two primary goals of the local society: education and fund-raising. It may be the largest "project" a society undertakes, and the coordinator can become overwhelmed. This section of part one contains tips and suggestions to help with the initial planning.
The seminar or workshop coordinator must make five key, often interrelated, decisions at least six months to one year in advance of the event: format, speaker(s), topic(s), place, and date.
Several formats are possible: single lecture, beginners' workshop, symposium, or a genealogy fair. This last format differs significantly from the others and is not covered in this series. It was discussed in "Society Project: A Family Heritage Fair" by Betty Robertson Kaufman in the FGS FORUM 3:1 (Spring 1991).
The single lecture format is used most often. All participants attend the same session, which is usually given by a single speaker.
A beginners' workshop can be the most rewarding for a local society. It introduces people not only to genealogy, but also to the society. Often an experienced lecturer can be engaged to present an all-day workshop. Consider, however, having four to six of your society members each present a segment. They may be willing to donate their time to the society or to accept a lower fee than a well-known speaker. This reduces expense, serves as a non-threatening environment for training future speakers, and allows beginners to identify more easily with the speaker. When this format is used, the coordinator must outline the material to be covered very thoroughly, but should allow each speaker to create his or her own presentation. One-day beginners' workshops often try to cover too many topics in too much depth, leaving the listener overwhelmed and confused. A good rule of thumb is to cover only material that almost everyone in attendance would use in the first year of research (county deed books, but not less-accessible land patents or tax records).
The symposium format also takes advantage of local expertise. Similar to national conferences, three to five talks are offered simultaneously in, for example, two morning and two afternoon sessions. One benefit is that topics that may be too narrow in interest for a program or workshop can be presented (such as Swedish research or Catholic records), in addition to broader topics (courthouse research). Remember to include at least one beginner or basic class (resources at the local genealogical library) during each time period.
Nationally-known speakers attract interest to the workshop, but are in great demand. Their fees and expenses are higher than for local speakers. Popular speakers often must be booked six months to one year in advance.
Ideas for topics can be obtained from member surveys, the chosen speaker(s), or from conference programs presented by the Federation of Genealogical Societies or the National Genealogical Society. In general, topics fall into three categories: locality, sources, or methodology. The first is easier for a speaker to present, the last has broader appeal. Avoid topics recently presented in your region.
Facilities, like speakers, often must be booked six months to one year in advance. Libraries, community centers, churches, schools, fraternal lodges, and hotels have been used successfully for workshops. Factors to consider in choosing a facility include: format chosen (affects number, size, and furnishings of rooms), number of attendees anticipated, type of seating arrangement (theater style or with tables), handicap access, rest rooms, facilities for meals and refreshments, space for registration and vendors, parking, and audiovisual equipment.
The date selected for a workshop often depends upon the availability of the facility and speaker. Avoid months when unexpected ice and snow could hinder attendees or the speaker from traveling. Because genealogists are frequently active in a number of organizations, it is virtually impossible to select a conflict-free date, but it is wise to check with those society members who would be helping with key tasks to minimize conflicts with their schedules.
As indicated earlier, the important decisions that must first be made about format, speaker, topic, place and date are highly interrelated. The sooner initial planning can begin, the greater the options. As soon as the speaker(s) and facility have been determined, the coordinator should write a letter to each, confirming the date and terms. Once these tasks are completed, the coordinator can tackle other aspects of the event and begin delegating duties, such as publicity, vendor options, accommodations for speakers and attendees. These factors will be discussed in subsequent wiki entries.
To fulfill the dual seminar or workshop goals of education and fund-raising, you must get people to attend. To secure as many people as possible to attend, you must have publicity—lots and lots of publicity. Good publicity generates enthusiasm. It is not enough merely to inform genealogists of the event. You must make them want to come. Publicity, more than any other factor, will make your event a success or a failure. It will determine if you meet both—or either—of your goals of education and fund-raising.
Direct marketing principles assure us that it takes three "impressions" to make a sale. It helps if the impressions are within weeks of each other and if they are not just copies of the same flyer. Common forms of publicity for seminars and workshops are flyers, direct mailing, newsletters, meetings, and publicity notices. Before any major publicity can begin, a number of details must be finalized: the place, the exact time schedule, the exact titles for the talks, details about lunch, vendors, and the cost of registration. Unquestionably, the title used by one professional lecturer, "Grandma, Where Are You?" has more audience appeal than "Finding Females in the Midwest in the 19th Century."
The number of walk-in registrations is increasing, which makes planning difficult. How many handouts should be printed? Is seating sufficient? Will there be enough lunches? To minimize this problem, set a preregistration deadline three or four weeks in advance in order to complete arrangements in a relaxed manner. Set a cost incentive sufficient to attract more preregistrations ($2-3 is not enough, $5-10 may be). State in your publicity that registrations received after a certain date, and walk-in registrations, are not guaranteed a copy of the handouts or luncheons.
An eye-catching flyer will be instrumental in attracting more genealogists to your seminar or workshop. A significant percentage of those attending seminars or workshops will be non-members of the sponsoring societies. The flyer will be the only available way to contact those genealogists.
The purpose of the flyer is two-fold: to give potential attendees complete information about the workshop and to interest them in coming. Obviously, a sheet of paper listing name, date, and place is insufficient. Your information must include text about the speaker and about each topic, and details about the schedule, location, parking, meals, handicap access, and any special features.
An effective flyer need not be expensive to prepare or print and will bring many additional persons to your workshop. Colored paper helps attract attention to your flyer and increases the cost only nominally. Some feel that the color yellow makes the best impression. Colored ink adds significantly to the cost and is more difficult to read. Neatness counts. The flyer should be prepared enough in advance to be at the printers two months before the event. Proofread! Proofread!
Flyers can be distributed in a number of ways. They should be placed appropriately on display for "pick up" at local libraries and other sites. They should be mailed to members or inserted in the newsletter. They should be mailed to non-members. Be sure to send copies of the flyer to surrounding genealogical societies. Maintaining a mailing list of non-members is a volunteer task that is best undertaken as a year-to-year job. It requires a significant amount of effort, but is much easier if you don't have to "reinvent the wheel" each year. Every non-member or former member who attends a workshop, visits a meeting, or uses the library should be on this list. This list is important and the number of names should grow regularly.
Use your newsletter, website, blog, or Facebook site to expand upon the basic information included in the flyer. Provide additional information about the speaker, perhaps even an interview. List the number of vendors attending, who they are and some of the items they will have available. Promote the workshop as an opportunity for genealogists to share experiences and information with old friends and distant cousins.
At your meetings, ask a member who has previously heard the speaker to give a testimonial. Personal testimony is the best recommendation.
A press-release notice should go to every genealogical columnist, genealogical and historical society, radio and television station, and newspaper (including the neighborhood shopping newspapers) within at least a 100-mile radius. It should contain two short paragraphs that can be "lifted' easily for publication, and—above all—it should make your workshop sound like the interesting and important event that it will be. Be sure to include the society's mailing address and website URL, an e-mail address, and the name and telephone number of a contact person in the text.
The FGS FORUM publishes a "Calendar of Events" for member societies in every issue. Realize, however, that all publications require notification far in advance of the event.
If you have planned your seminar or workshop well, it will be interesting, it will be fun, it will be educational—a day that area genealogists won't want to miss. Convey that through your publicity, and they will come.
Part Two - Vendor Options and Accommodations
Vendor Options
Vendors contribute to successful seminars and workshops by providing an opportunity to learn about and purchase genealogical materials: books, forms, and novelties; preservation, presentation and photographic supplies and services; computer hardware, software, and training; book preparation, printing, and publishing.
Vendors, like speakers and facilities, often are committed far in advance of an event. If you plan to have vendor displays at your workshop, as soon as you have finalized the date send "Mark your calendar now" postcards to vendors who have participated in the past.
Like your publicity mailing lists, vendor lists and letters are best maintained from year to year by one volunteer. In this way, the mailing list can be enlarged, and a clear, informative letter and response form developed. Letters should be mailed to as many vendors as possible, outlining the types of participation:
- Flyers or brochures. Many societies prepare "goodie bags" for each participant that contain advertising flyers. In localities where there are not many workshop opportunities, these gifts are enthusiastically received. In areas with many workshops, ecologically conscious societies suggest that vendors send brochures for only a portion of those expected to attend, perhaps one-half. The brochures are placed on a "freebie table" where attendees choose those items of interest to them.
- Door prizes. Vendors should be given adequate recognition for their donations. Try displaying the door prizes (with appropriate labels) on a table during the morning sessions. Presentation should be efficient and not rob time from the program. When the prizes are awarded, read the vendor's name, describe the prize, announce the winner. Have volunteers distribute the prizes to the winners (rather than the winners come forward); this can be a great time saver.
- Syllabus ad. If the handout materials are in bound format, you may wish to include display ads. Be specific about the acceptable sizes and the form of the ad. It must be in final size with clear printing on white paper; photographs should be screened. Send a style sheet and rate schedule with the initial vendor letter.
- Display or sales table. Make the vendor's letters informative and specific. Try to answer, in advance, any questions they might have. What is the cost of the table? It could be a door prize of a certain value, a flat price, or free. Are the number of tables limited? What is the exact size? Does it come with a cover or a drape? How many chairs are provided? Can signs be hung on the walls? Are electrical outlets available?
Scheduling is important to vendors who must drive several hours to your location. When will the doors open for vendor set-up? Ample time should be allowed before attendees are admitted. When are browsing times scheduled? When must the facility be vacated? Can the vendors attend the lectures? If so, must they pay the registration fee? Will the vendor area be open during the lectures? Provide maps to your location, along with a diagram detailing where vendors may unload and park, and the route to the display area. There should be a ramp or elevator, not stairs, and the distance should not be excessive. Include a contract/response form.
Once vendor letters have been mailed and responses received, get ready for the big day. Give ads to the syllabus chairman immediately. Neatly stack brochures for the freebie table in boxes, ready to be set out. If you prepare goodie bags, draft several volunteers for a "stuffing party." Invite new members. Organize the items including syllabus, handouts, and registration materials around a large dining room table and the work will go quickly. One secret of successful workshops is to use as many different volunteers as possible, asking each to donate just a few hours, and make those hours a fun experience.
Prepare a floor plan marked with doors, tables (for registration, freebies, door prizes, and vendors), chairs, electrical outlets, and each vendor's location. Tables should have sufficient space in front of them to allow browsing without causing traffic jams. Prepare signs with each vendor's name. If the exhibit area is not obvious, prepare "vendors this way" signs.
Prior to the workshop day, assign volunteers to check the table set-up, to see that doors to the unloading area are open and the route clearly marked, and to help as needed. Each vendor's table should have a daily schedule. Sufficient time for attendees to visit all vendors should be arranged. Time before the first session makes registration easier and gives early birds plenty of time for shopping.
Whether in person, or by door prizes, brochures, and ads, vendors are important participants in any successful workshop. Vendor tables attract genealogists to your workshop, where browsing can be a favorite activity of the day.
Accommodating Speakers
Watchwords for the relationship between the society and the speaker are communication and courtesy. The speaker is both a professional and a guest of the society, and should be treated accordingly. On the workshop day, you want a happy speaker—one who is comfortable, rested, and knows that you have planned well.
When the date is set, send confirmation to the speaker. Request a brief description of each topic under consideration and the level of each (basic, intermediate, advanced). Continue to communicate as you complete arrangements for transportation, accommodations, meals and the workshop schedule. Details on which both the society and speaker should be clear include:
- The fee. How much and when to be paid? Will the speaker have books or other material to sell? Who will do the selling? Will the society receive a commission?
- Audio-visual equipment. Will the speaker be using a digital projector or overheads? Who will provide this? Is a chalk or marker board required? Appoint a society member to operate and adjust the equipment and lighting. Check to make sure that there are extension cords, markers, erasers, and pointers available.
- Handouts. How many pages are there? Who will reproduce them? If it will be the society, by what date are the originals required? If the speaker provided them by what date is the attendance count needed? Distributing handouts during a lecture is disruptive; do this at registration or prior to each session.
- Travel. Who will make the arrangements—will the society purchase the ticket or reimburse the speaker? When does the speaker prefer to travel? Is a particular airline preferred? If the speaker is driving, will reimbursement be based on actual mileage or an agreed-upon sum?
- Local transportation. If flying, the speaker should be greeted at the airport and escorted to the hotel by a society member (and vice versa at the end of the visit). If the speaker is driving, provide detailed directions to the workshop location and/or hotel where all accommodations should be arranged by the society. Provide a written schedule of transportation to and from the workshop, all meals, and any special events. Ask of there are any local sights or research facilities that the speaker would like to visit, and provide a society host or hostess.
- Lodging. Although some speakers are willing to stay in a member's home, most prefer a hotel or motel (not necessarily elegant, but clean, quiet, comfortable, with food service). Ask if a non- smoking or a smoking room is preferred.
- Meals and entertainment. The society is responsible for all meals while the speaker is in town. Do not forget lunch during the workshop. Check on dietary restrictions. Some societies enjoy hosting a reception or dinner for the speaker. Check with the speaker first. Many want to use the evening before to prepare for the upcoming presentation and will be more relaxed at a post-workshop celebration. Others may need to return home immediately after the workshop.
At the workshop, the introducer should review the speaker's resume and chat a few minutes with the speaker. Do not read the resume verbatim. Select a few significant points and add one or two pertinent personal items. For example, that next week marks the speaker's fifteenth anniversary at the historical society, or that by using the records about to be described the speaker found a horse thief—in the spouse's ancestry.
The audio-visual coordinator needs to check everything thoroughly before the opening session. Ice water should be placed on the lectern.
A break should be, literally a break for the speaker, not an opportunity for the audience to get personal answers to research questions. Allow the speaker to leave the room a few minutes before the audience. Show the speaker where the restrooms are.
Ask how the speaker prefers to handle questions and announce this at the opening session. One good way is to distribute 3x5 file cards at the opening session, requesting that audience members print questions and include their names. The speaker may prefer to answer questions after each session or at the end of the day.
A week to ten days after the workshop, forward any evaluations collected at the event that pertain to the speaker or topics. This is also the time to send a brief letter indicating the society's appreciation of the presentation.
Accommodating Attendees
To achieve your workshop goals, you must focus on one thing—making "satisfied customers" of those who attend. Everyone should feel they are getting value for their registration fee—and that they will want to return next year and bring a friend. An event that is profitable this year, but fails to satisfy, will cause next year's event to suffer. Remember the maxim: a happy customer tells one, but an unhappy customer tells ten!
The facility should be comfortable and convenient. The vendor area should be uncrowded, with ample time for browsing. The speaker should be both knowledgeable and interesting. The audience should be able to see any visual aids and hear the speaker easily.
Provide plenty of signs. Check with building staff about any restrictions as to how signs may be mounted. Point the way to parking areas and the main door with large visible signs. If the building has several entrances, you may need signs on other doors pointing to the registration area. At registration, place the signs designating the lines for pre-registration and walk-ins above the table, not on the front. Point the way to the vendor displays, restrooms, smoking areas, vending machines, eating areas, elevators, stairs, classrooms, and lecture halls—anywhere those participating may want to go.
You will need lots of volunteers—not a few people doing everything, but many people each contributing a little to a successful event. It is important to involve as many members as possible so they feel that they are a part of the success. Volunteers are enthusiastic, and their enthusiasm is contagious. Remember to have all volunteers stand to receive a big "Thank You!"
As soon as the building is unlocked, station a volunteer at the main door(s) to greet everyone with a cheerful "Good morning! Registration is to your left," and to hold the door when needed.
At registration, have at least one volunteer for each one hundred people expected, twice that if you expect many walk-ins or if the registration period is short. In the hallways, have volunteers to point the way for those who are new to the building or who have gotten themselves turned around. The more maze-like the facility, the more volunteers you will need. All volunteers should wear a brightly colored ribbon, button, or name tag saying "Volunteer" or "Ask Me!"
To ensure the comfort of those attending, arrange for about twenty percent more chairs in the lecture room(s) than will be needed. It is difficult to get everyone seated in a room that is filled to capacity. It is also uncomfortable and stuffy. This is less of a problem in auditoriums with built-in seating.
Temperature is a frequent complaint. You will never please everyone, but if most people are too hot or too cold, an adjustment should be made. Tell the facility staff how many you are expecting so they can set the temperature accordingly. Remember that rooms will seem colder in the morning, but will heat rapidly when filled with people. If no building maintenance person will be on hand, a volunteer should meet earlier with that person to learn how to make adjustments.
The plans for the meals should be stated in the publicity and explained again during the morning announcements. Provide an eating area if lunch is "brown bag." If lunch is not provided, include a list and a map of nearby eating places in the registration packet. Morning refreshments are a good idea and help keep audience attention from lagging during the pre-lunch lecture.
Genealogists love to talk genealogy. The opportunity to do so is one of the highlights of the day. Name tags for surnames are often used. Be creative; if the subject of the day is a state, provide a tag with the county lines drawn and let each person color the counties of interest. This helps strangers become a part of a group easily. At lunch, label each table with a different geographical area or state and encourage people to sit at their favorite research place to share experiences and questions.
Something will go wrong. Don't panic. Have at least one volunteer who is available to "go fer" whatever is needed or complete whatever assignment arises. Genealogists are quite understanding if something goes wrong. However, planning carefully will avoid foreseeable problems.
How will you know you have achieved a successful event? When everyone says, "This was great! When is the next one?"


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